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          LET'S DO THIS. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE,
AND WELCOME TO OUR MAY 11TH MEETING. 
          [Call to Order]
IT IS CURRENTLY 1003. HOPE EVERYONE CELEBRATING. 
          HAD A WONDERFUL MOTHER'S DAY WEEKEND. CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. GOOD MORNING
EVERYONE. 
          MAYOR GOMEZ. GOOD MORNING. VICE MAYOR BOLTON IS NOT IN AS YET. 
          COMMISSIONER. RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONER PATERSON,
COMMISSIONER DANIEL. 
          GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. IF EVERYONE PLEASE RISE,
WE'LL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE. 
          PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR
WHICH IT STANDS. 
          ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. ALL RIGHT. FIRST ON OUR AGENDA IS HURRICANE 
          [1.a Hurricane Preparedness Update and Discussion Presented by Chief Jonathan Frasher & Van Schoen, Community Education Preparedness Specialist]
PREPAREDNESS UPDATE AND DISCUSSION BEING PRESENTED BY CHIEF JONATHAN FRAZIER AND VAN
SHAUN, COMMUNITY EDUCATION PREPAREDNESS SPECIALIST. THE FLOOR IS YOURS FOR THE SEATS. 
          GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSION. FOR THE RECORD. 
          JONATHAN FRAZIER, FIRE CHIEF BAN ON PUBLIC EDUCATION AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST. 
          AS WE. AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES. JUNE 1ST BECOMES RAPIDLY APPROACHING,
AT WHICH POINT IT BECOMES HURRICANE SEASON. 
          NOW, I'VE KNOWN THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SOME OF YOU PREPARE FOR,
BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE PREPARE FOR IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE SINCE LAST HURRICANE SEASON,
SOMETHING WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE
AWARE ABOUT. SO HAVING SAID THAT THE FOCUS THAT WE HAVE HERE AND WHENEVER IT COMES TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, IT'S NOT JUST HURRICANES,
IT'S NOT JUST TORNADOES. 
          IT COULD BE ALSO ANY OTHER MAN MADE EVENT, ANYTHING THAT MAY HAPPEN,
WE DEPLOY OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO MITIGATE WHATEVER HAZARD HAS ARISEN FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S VERY,
VERY FLEXIBLE. 
          WE HAVE MET WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE
YEAR AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A VERY BROAD AND GROSS UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. AND LIKE I'VE SAID TO EVERYBODY THAT'S COME THROUGH OUR
THROUGH OUR LITTLE SESSION IT'S KIND OF LIKE MIKE TYSON MADE IT VERY CLEAR YEARS AGO. EVERYBODY'S GOT A PLAN UNTIL THEY GET PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH. 
          AND WE PLAN FOR THE WORST, HOPE FOR THE BEST. 
          AND I TRY TO TELL THEM NOTHING'S GOING TO GO ACCORDING TO PLAN. 
          WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A. I WOULD DO SOME MENTAL REPETITIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ROLE IS
AND WHAT YOUR ROLE IS AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND THAT ACTUALLY BECOMES VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US. 
          WHENEVER THERE IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY DECLARED,
THE RANK STRUCTURE OF THE CITY ALTERS EVER SO SLIGHTLY. 
          THE FIRE CHIEF, WHICH IS MYSELF, I BECOME THE INCIDENT COMMANDER FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          SO UNTIL THE INCIDENT IS MITIGATED, EVERY POSITION YOU SEE THEIR EOC DIRECTOR OF SAFETY
AND RISK LIAISON PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, ALL THE WAY DOWN. WE HAVE THOSE POSITIONS FILLED WITH FILLED WITH PERSONNEL THROUGHOUT THE
CITY. 
          THAT IS THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE. WE HAVE RISK,
YOU KNOW, SAFETY. 
          EVERYBODY THAT HAS A ROLE IS GOING TO BE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN THERE,
INCLUDING THE CITY MANAGER. 
          SO WHENEVER THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING,
IT'S VERY, VERY VITAL THAT WE FOLLOW THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS CHAIN OF COMMAND WHENEVER THERE'S AN INCIDENT. AND LIKE I SAID,
THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM A, YOU KNOW, A MASS SHOOTING AIRPLANE CRASH, ANYTHING THAT YOU MAY THINK OF,
WE MAY STAND UP OUR EOC, DIFFERENT PARTS OF IT FOR WHATEVER THE SITUATION MAY ARISE. 
          HURRICANE SEASON, LIKE WE SAID, JUNE 1ST, IT'S RAPIDLY APPROACHING NOW. 
          THE THE TIME TO PREPARE FOR THIS, AS WE'VE BEEN DOING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR,
IS NOT JUNE 1ST. 
          JUNE 15TH OR WHENEVER YOU I YOURSELVES IN THE CONE. 
          IT IS WAY AHEAD OF TIME. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY PREPARED,
THEN THE TIME TO PREPARE IS IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
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THERE WAS A MULTITUDE OF WAYS THAT WE CAN PUT OUT TO THE CITY FOR THEM TO SIGN UP FOR OUR
CODE RED. 
          WE USE THIS FOR IN GETTING OUR MESSAGE OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          WE HAVE A QR CODE THAT'S UP THERE. WE'VE HAD A LONG EXTENSION LIST. 
          WE'VE USED IT IN THE PAST. I'VE EVEN HEARD COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR BOLTON'S VOICE ON THERE
A MULTITUDE OF TIMES ON DIFFERENT MESSAGES IN THE PAST. 
          I, WE TRY TO GET EVERYBODY THAT SIGNS UP. WE TRY TO GET OUR MESSAGE OUT TO THEM. 
          NOW, IT MAY BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS, YOU KNOW,
MONITOR THE, MONITOR THE, THE WEATHER PATTERN, OR GIVE YOU A NUMBER TO CALL OR LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          NOW THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND I HATE TO KEEP TALKING. 
          I HAVE A TENDENCY TO DO THIS WITHOUT INCLUDING MAN ON ANY,
ANY OF ANY OF THIS STUFF. 
          SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE HIM AN OPEN INVITATION TO JUMP IN AT ANY POINT AS I'M AS
I'M SPEAKING. 
          SO YOU HAVE THAT. YOU HAVE A GREEN LIGHT. BUT ONCE AGAIN,
THIS IS I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE EXTRA MORE TIME ON THIS BECAUSE IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE MESSAGE IS WE NEED TO GET
OUT TO THE PUBLIC. IF YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS CLOSE BY TO YOU, THEN YOU MAY BE CONTACTING THEM IN ANOTHER STATE. 
          MAKE SURE THEY HAVE OUR INFORMATION IN CASE WE NEED TO DO A WELFARE CHECK. 
          WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, IN THE EVENT WE ARE IMPACTED BY A STORM. 
          WE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY LUCKY DOWN HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA. 
          I THINK OCTOBER OF I WANT TO SAY, WAS IT 2003 OR 4? WE GOT HIT WITH ONE AND IT WAS A CATEGORY ONE,
AND IT JUST GAVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A TASTE. 
          SO IT'S THE POSSIBILITY IS REAR IS REAL. I THINK WE HAVE 20,
20 STORMS. I THINK THEY ANTICIPATE I THINK NINE AROUND NINE HURRICANES AND 2 TO 4 THAT ARE GOING TO
BE SEVERE HURRICANES THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER FORMATIONS, THAT THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME SOME SHEAR ON THE ATLANTIC,
THAT WHATEVER FORMS IN THE IN THE PACIFIC BETWEEN THE EL NINO AND LA NINA. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, THE QR CODE FOR CODE RED, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT OUT
THERE THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH THE CITY, SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH YOUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          AND WHEN I SAY YOUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO HOW WE'RE GOING TO WE WANT
TO MAINTAIN ONE MESSAGE, ONE VOICE AND CONTINUITY. THERE'S THERE'S AND THAT'S VERY,
VERY IMPORTANT. 
          I CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH. WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE UNIFIED MESSAGE. 
          NOW, I KNOW IN TODAY'S DAY AND AGE, IT ISN'T LIKE IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. 
          EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AND AND YOU GUYS HAVE A REASON FOR THAT. 
          YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU WANT TO PROMOTE YOURSELVES. THAT'S COOL,
I DIG IT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. BUT THIS IS THIS IS THE TIME WHERE WE NEED TO ACTUALLY COME TOGETHER AS ONE CITY WITH ONE MESSAGE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH. SO ONCE AGAIN FOR YOU ALL, AND I KNOW I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF ON SOME OF THE SLIDES,
YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN YOUR, IN YOUR PARTICULAR ZONES. AS LONG AS WE HAVE ONE UNIFIED MESSAGE,
DON'T TRY TO PUT OUT THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN'T VET OR VERIFY. 
          WE WILL HANDLE SITUATIONS AS THEY ARISE ACCORDING TO HOW THEY PRIORITIZE AS FAR AS SAFETY
IS CONCERNED. 
          AND SAFETY IS REALLY THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE. IT'S PARAMOUNT. 
          NOW I UNDERSTAND YOU ALL MAY WANT TO KIND OF PUT OUT YOUR OWN MESSAGE AND YOUR OWN IDEAS
ON THINGS, BUT THIS IS THE ONE TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE EVERYBODY NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER. 
          SO UTILIZE OUR INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, UTILIZE OUR PIO,
UTILIZE OUR ONE MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU. 
          IF I CAN EMPHASIZE ONE THING IS THAT IS EMPOWER THE CITY MANAGER. 
          WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND WE MAY NEED TO MAKE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET INTO THE LEGALITIES OF MR. CITY ATTORNEY, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT TO APPROVE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES IN THE
EVENT THEY ARE NEEDED. 
          I HOPE AND PRAY THAT WE DON'T NEED IT, BUT IN THE EVENT WE DO,
THEN IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO YOU ALL. 
          AND THE NUMBER ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU IS JUST REALLY TO ASK YOURSELVES AND,
YOU KNOW, ASK THE CITY MANAGEMENT, WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP THE CITY AS A WHOLE? WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP THEM TO SUCCEED? BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW,
WEATHERING THE STORM. 
          WE DO OUR PRE STORM ACTIVITIES. EVERYBODY PREPARES FOR WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO AND EACH
INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEN IT'S A MATTER OF LETTING IT RIGHT OUT. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MITIGATE IT ACCORDING TO PRIORITY. 
          ONCE AGAIN USE OUR PIO1 VOICE, ONE MESSAGE ONE STRATEGY. 
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I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL BEING VISIBLE,
BUT MAKE SURE THE MESSAGES YOU PUT OUT ARE CREDIBLE. 
          MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE COMING FROM ONE ONE PERSON AND THAT'S ONE CHAIN OF COMMAND. 
          IF THERE'S, IF YOU HAVE A REQUEST FROM A, FROM A PARTICULAR DISTRICT,
A CITIZEN, MAKE SURE IT GOES THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS, YOU KNOW, AND ONCE AGAIN, PRIORITY WILL BE GIVEN TO LIFE SAFETY. 
          NOW, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE AND FINGERS CROSSED WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
BE WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY FORTUNATE. 
          BUT THIS IS THE ONE TIME WHERE WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS ONE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? MR. PATTERSON? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          CHIEF. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. SO ARE YOU AS A FIRE CHIEF? THE EMERGENCY MANAGER. IS THAT HOW I SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS? OKAY. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING RELATING TO SITES BEING SECURED. 
          I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. REFERENCE. CONSTRUCTION SITES. 
          TRASH. WHAT IS OUR MESSAGING RELATING TO? YOU KNOW YOU KNOW,
PRE-HURRICANE ACTIVITIES GOING BACK A FEW SLIDES ON ONE OF THEM, THERE IS A,
THERE IS A MESSAGE ON THERE ABOUT POLICING YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY AS FAR AS DEBRIS OR TRASH OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          NORMALLY IF THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND WORKS NORMALLY. 
          THERE'S A. THERE'S A CONTINGENCY PLAN TO SECURE THE STUFF THAT'S ON THE ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT MESSAGE ON THERE IS ACTUALLY FOR INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS AS WELL. 
          DID WE DO WE HAVE LIKE, IS THIS A WORKING TEAM THAT WHERE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE KIND OF
COLLABORATING ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STRATEGY UNDER YOUR DIRECTION, OR IS FIRE OVERSEEING THIS WHOLE PROCESS WHENEVER IT COMES TO RESPONSE TO AN EMERGENCY? IT WOULD BE UNDER THE UNIFIED COMMAND WITH FIRE BEING IN CHARGE. 
          HOWEVER, ANY MESSAGE YOU WANT TO GET OUT THERE TO SUPPORT THAT OR SUPPORT THE CITY. 
          FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD GET WITH THE PIO AND MAKE SURE,
LIKE I SAID, IT'S ONE UNIFIED MESSAGE, RIGHT? YEAH, I MEAN, I HEARD THAT PART AND I DEFINITELY RESPECT THAT. THERE NEEDS TO BE
ONE UNIFIED MESSAGE. I THINK WE DO A GREAT JOB OF DOING THAT. 
          I MEAN, WHILE WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES,
I THINK WE ALL ARE PROMOTING AND WE ALL HAVE THE SAME AGENDA ULTIMATELY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS IT PERTAINS TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. 
          I DO THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A COLLABORATIVE,
INTERNAL EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS A PLAN FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHETHER THE CITY OPERATES AS IS STAFF ESSENTIAL HERE? AGAIN, I'M YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT'S AN EMERGENCY. AND WHEN THERE IS AN EMERGENCY,
WE NEED TO RESPOND. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF THE ORGANIZATION IS STAFF ESSENTIAL. 
          WHO ARE PEOPLE ON CALL? WHAT HAPPENS IF A TREE FALLS? IS PUBLIC WORKS ENGAGED? LIKE WHAT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO DEALING WITH THE
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MATTERS ORGANIZATIONALLY, CITYWIDE, OUTSIDE OF MAYBE SOMEONE BEING ILL OR SOMEONE ACTUALLY BEING HURT. 
          SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ACTUALLY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          AND I KNOW VAN HAS A GREAT ANSWER TO THAT, BUT BUT LET ME MAKE AN INTRODUCTION TO THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE A REAL WELL PLANNED PLAN FOR, FOR EMERGENCY. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A GREAT PLAN FOR CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS AND,
AND FIRE AND VAN LEADS THAT EFFORT IN TERMS OF EVERY SINGLE YEAR UPDATING THAT PLAN BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE,
BASED ON THE STAFFING, BASED ON THE RESOURCES BASED ON A NUMBER OF OTHER CRITERIA, INCLUDING THE BROWARD COUNTY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT APPROACH AND THE
PARTNERING CITIES IN THAT, IN THAT EFFORT. SO WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR DESIGNATION OF,
OF ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL. 
          WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR WHO RESPONDS TO WHAT AT WHAT TIME AND WHAT DAY,
HOW MANY DAYS AHEAD OF THE THE INCIDENT, POTENTIAL INCIDENT. AND SO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN THINK OF IS CURRENTLY OUTLINED IN THAT,
IN THAT PLAN. 
          AND THAT PLAN IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S INTRANET. 
          FOR, FOR EVERYONE'S ACCESS. AND THE DEPARTMENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT PLAN
IN TERMS OF STAFFING AND IN THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES. AND THEN YOU KNOW,
THEY COOPERATE WITH THE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL ALIGNED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME,
SOME NUMBER OF STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES IN TERMS OF WHICH DEPARTMENT DOES WHAT, 
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AS YOU ASKED, YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION SITES AND YOU KNOW,
WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE THOSE ARE ALL OUTLINED IN THE PLAN THAT, THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THE THE HURRICANE WATCH,
FOR EXAMPLE THEY, THEY GO OUT AND SECURE ALL CONSTRUCTION SITES. 
          THEY COMMUNICATE WITH ALL THE OPEN PERMIT SITES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE TAKING ALL THE
NECESSARY MEASURES. 
          AND SO WE DO HAVE THOSE THINGS LINED UP AHEAD OF THE INCIDENT. 
          POST INCIDENT DURING INCIDENT. WE HAVE ALL THOSE LINED UP IN THE IN THE IN THE CONTINUITY
OF OPERATIONS PLAN. 
          BY DEPARTMENT, BY STAFF, BY RESPONSIBLE PARTIES AND SO WHO AND WHO DOES POST HURRICANE
DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. 
          THAT'S FIRST IT'S DONE BY OUR BSO AND THEN OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND I BELIEVE FIRE BUILDING AND CODE BUILDING IN CODE GO OUT AS WELL. 
          BUT THE FIRST RUN IS BY BSO. OKAY. I JUST, I,
YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE I KNOW IF I HAVE THESE QUESTIONS, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE STAFF HAS THE SAME
QUESTIONS. 
          PEOPLE TEND TO NOT KNOW WHO IS ESSENTIAL WHEN IT COMES,
WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF TEND TO HAVE A PLAN AND WE DON'T EXPECT MUCH TO HAPPEN. 
          AND THEN WHEN THE ACTUAL STORM HITS, THERE'S TYPICALLY A LOT OF CONFUSION INTERNALLY. 
          PEOPLE HAVE THEIR FAMILIES. THEY'RE NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE ESSENTIAL. 
          THEY'RE NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THEIR ROLES AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. SO WHILE I
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MESSAGING AROUND WHAT WE PUT OUT PUBLICLY, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT INTERNALLY WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          BUT THEN IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE PUT OUT IN TERMS OF OUR MESSAGING AS A HOMEOWNER,
WHAT DOES THE CITY EXPECT FROM ME? I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED IN TERMS OF,
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE FINAL WHATEVER I SAW HERE TODAY IS THE FINAL MESSAGING OR I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING OR WHAT THE CONCERN OR WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING ON TODAY IN
TERMS OF LIKE WHAT THE ENGAGEMENT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE PUT OUT,
THE RESIDENTS KNOW IF THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, WATCH OR UNDER THE TERM UNDER A WARNING YOU CAN'T PUT YOUR TRASH OUT,
YOU CAN'T TRIM YOUR TREES BECAUSE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK CREATE THE EMERGENCIES, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE RECOGNIZE BECOME PROJECTILES DURING STORMS. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK I ASKED YOU ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR,
MANAGER. 
          WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEND OUT TO THE RESIDENTS? THE COUNTY USUALLY WILL PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE MATERIAL FROM FRONT TO BACK. 
          HOW TO CONTACT F, P AND L, WHO DID THIS? WHO DID THAT? FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, TO YOUR POINT ON ONE UNIFIED MESSAGE,
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TIME,
AND I'LL SAY THE REASON WHY I FEEL LIKE YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT THE COMMISSION TENDS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT MESSAGE IS BECAUSE THERE ARE GAPS AND WE CAN TEND TO FIND GAPS AND IDENTIFY
THE GAPS. 
          AND SO AS A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION TODAY,
I'D LIKE TO ENSURE THAT IF WE WANT TO PREVENT GAPS AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE LIFE, HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC IS THE PRIORITY,
WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE PUT OUT STARTING FROM NOW IS COMPREHENSIVE AND THAT WE HAVE PREPARED THE PUBLIC FOR WHAT OUR PLAN IS. 
          AND THAT OUR PLAN ISN'T JUST A PLAN ON PAPER. 
          SO THAT THAT WOULD BE THAT THAT WOULD BE MY,
YOU KNOW, INITIAL FEEDBACK FOR RIGHT NOW AT LEAST. 
          THANK YOU. AND SO WE HEARD YOU AND WE PREPARED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEASURES FOR,
FOR THAT COMMUNICATION. ONE OF THEM IS A NEW EMERGENCY WEBSITE THAT WILL COMMUNICATE WITH THE,
WITH THE COMMUNITY WILL, WILL POST ALL OUR UPDATES AND ALL THAT. BUT THEN ABOUT THE THE CITY'S HURRICANE PREPARED
PREPAREDNESS GUIDE. 
          YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THAT? WELL,
WE, WE'VE CONTINUED TO, TO BUILD UP ON OUR PROGRAMING THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND THROUGH,
THROUGH THE WEBSITES. 
          SO WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO THAT AND BUILD UP OVER THE YEARS. 
          OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS HAVE BEEN THE BEST AVENUE TO GET TO THOSE FOLKS. 
          BUT WE KNOW THAT THOSE ASSOCIATIONS HAVE DWINDLED DOWN TO VERY SMALL. 
          SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING
TAMARAC TV, DOING A Q&A ON THERE. THAT'LL BE COMING UP SHORTLY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'LL BE A POSITIVE. BUT I WANTED TO GET BACK TO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU
WERE ASKING IN REGARDS, AND I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER COVERED IT QUITE WELL,
WAS THAT WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A PLAN FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          IT IS COMPREHENSIVE AND WE ARE WELL ORGANIZED. 
          OUR FOLKS ARE TOP OF THAT, THEY'RE THE BEST. I THINK THAT WE'VE,
WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH PLENTY AND WE HAVE ENGAGED THEM TO BE BETTER. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD FEEL 
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QUITE CLEAR THAT IT'LL BE HANDLED SUCH AS, SUCH AS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. 
          THEY'RE NOT HERE. IF TONY WAS HERE, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO RATTLE OFF EVERYTHING THAT THEY
DO. 
          BUT AS SOON AS SOMETHING'S HAPPENING, WE BELIEVE SOMETHING IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE. THE
PRINTING BEGINS. 
          THEY START GOING OUT TO THE WORK SITES. START TALKING TO THOSE PEOPLE,
CLEARING THEM UP AND CLEARING THOSE THINGS OUT AND TELLING THEM WHEN TO STOP WORK. 
          THE RAPID IMPACT ASSESSMENT IS DONE THROUGH BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE SINCE THEY ARE ON THE
ROAD IMMEDIATELY AFTER WHICH IS THE IDEAL WAY TO GO. 
          SO WE GET A CLEAR PICTURE BECAUSE WE WANT AN OPERATIONAL PICTURE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          IF IT'S SAFE TO DO SO. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT PICTURE,
WE START OUR, OUR INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND OUR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE GOING OUT AND LOOKING INTO THOSE COMMUNITIES TO SEE WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS THINGS AND START GETTING A
LARGER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE DOLLAR VALUES ARE OUT THERE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT WE NEED TO BRING TO THE OPERATION. SO THE INCIDENT COMMANDER WHICH IS CHIEF FRAZIER
WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF INCIDENT ACTION PLAN TO GET THERE. AND IN REGARDS TO GETTING OUT TO THE PUBLIC,
WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF THAT. 
          THIS PAST WEEK WAS HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS WEEK. 
          THE CITY RAN THEIRS. WE RAN OURS. WE'VE BEEN OUT SPEAKING IMMENSELY. 
          WE HAVE OUR CERT MEMBERS WHO ARE HANDING OUT MATERIALS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING TO WHERE WE CAN TWO ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT JUST CAME TO MIND. 
          SO I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT HOA'S, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT MOST RESIDENTS HATE THEIR
HOA. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S TRICKY. YOU KNOW AND WHAT I COME TO LEARN AND FIND OUT IS THAT YOU
KNOW, AS, AS YOU KNOW, CONSTITUENT REPRESENTATIVES,
THEY ACTUALLY DO COME TO US, THEY CALL US, THEY REACH OUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S ISSUES, THEY, YOU KNOW,
I DON'T KNOW, I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD, YOU KNOW, ECHO MY SENTIMENTS. I GET CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES ALL THE TIME. 
          YES. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS. IT COULD BE THE,
YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, THEY COULD CALL THE CITY, BUT THEY DON'T THEY CALL US. AND SO, YOU KNOW,
I WOULD ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DEFINITELY LOOK AT YOU KNOW, OUR RELATIONSHIP AS A COLLECTIVE, AS A TEAM,
YOU KNOW, WE ARE BETTER WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TIME YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BECAUSE WE MAKE OURSELVES SO ACCESSIBLE, PEOPLE KNOW THAT IF THEY CAN'T GET THEIR PHONE ANSWERED HERE AT CITY HALL,
THAT IF THEY TEXT OR CALL THEIR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE, THEY'RE GOING TO GET A RESPONSE AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO,
YOU KNOW, IN TURN, GET SOMETHING, WHATEVER THEY NEED DONE. IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO GET HANDLED. 
          SO YOU KNOW, I JUST, I, I WASN'T AWARE THAT WE WERE DOING ANY EMERGENCY PREP PRIOR TO OUR
MEETING THIS MORNING. 
          I'M SAYING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SPACE,
WHETHER IT'S IN THROUGH MY COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH MY UPCOMING, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT MEETING,
WHATEVER IT IS. 
          BUT I THINK WE'RE BETTER WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER. 
          IF YOU GUYS ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FOR ME,
SEE ME AS SOMEONE THAT IS WILLING TO PARTNER IN GETTING THE WORD OUT IF YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT ON YOUR OWN NOT TO SUGGEST THAT OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE ENGAGED,
BUT THEY BECOME MORE ENGAGED WHEN THEY'RE ELECTED PERSON IS INVOLVED. 
          AND THAT IS JUST THE FACT OF THE MATTER. PEOPLE WILL LISTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND BECOME A
LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTIVE TO WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, IN TERMS OF MESSAGING, GET OUT. WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ATTEND ANY MEETINGS THAT YOU
ALL HAVE WITH YOUR HOA OR ANY REPRESENTATIVE. 
          I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO SIGN UP FOR CODE RED,
BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN PUT OUT ONE UPDATE AS AS UPDATES BECOME AVAILABLE DURING CRISIS. WITH REGARD TO POST HURRICANE DAMAGE ASSESSMENTS. 
          I KNOW TYPICALLY THERE'S A BUNCH OF FORMS, YOU KNOW,
WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT? WHO DOES WHOSE? I KNOW THAT YOU SAID BSO, BUT BSO IS NOT FILLING OUT THE FEMA FORMS. RIGHT. BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE INCIDENT THOSE FORMS ARE AGAIN,
EVERYBODY IS EDUCATED ON, ON HOW TO FILL THEM OUT TO, TO CAPTURE THE TIME IN, IN LABOR AND EFFORT AND ALL THAT. 
          AND, AND SO EVERYBODY HAS THOSE FORMS. ANYONE WHO'S SPENDING ANY TIME ON ANY OF THE
RECOVERY RELATED ACTIVITIES WE KEEP TRACK OF THOSE TIMES AND THEN FINANCIAL SERVICES ACCUMULATES THOSE OR
PUTS THEM TOGETHER AND SUBMIT THEM. 
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OKAY. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THE,
LIKE, WHAT THE EOC LIKE, WHAT IS, WHO'S GOING TO BE WHO'S HERE? WHERE IS WHERE IS THE COMMAND CENTER? IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, LET'S SAY THERE IS AN ACTUAL STORM. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE EVEN NEED TO WHO DO WE CALL? WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IF THERE ARE SITUATIONS LIKE,
I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING INSIDE YOUR CONTACT PERSON AS THE LIAISON, WHICH IS MAXINE. WELL SO NOT,
NOT, NOT TO DISAGREE WITH THE CHIEF, BUT, BUT IN TERMS OF THE, THE,
THE MAKEUP OF THE THE EMERGENCY CONTROL CENTER, WHICH IS AT THE FIRE STATION 15 UPSTAIRS. WE HAVE DIFFERENT STATIONS FOR DIFFERENT
DIFFERENT GROUPS AND, AND THE CITY'S ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION IS THERE OBVIOUSLY,
AND SO THE ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT RELINQUISH EVERYTHING. SO WE STILL SHORT? IN SHORT MEANS CALL THE MANAGER. 
          YES. YEAH. HE'S STILL UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE CITY. 
          SO, I MEAN, NOTWITHSTANDING THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION. 
          IN FACT, HE'S THE ONE WHO SIGNED OFF ON THE DECLARATION,
RIGHT? AND AND IN TERMS OF OUR UNIFIED MESSAGE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I I,
I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL IS, IS THAT YOU KNOW, THE CITY PUTS OUT A NUMBER OF MESSAGES DURING THIS TIME AND THROUGHOUT
THE SEASON, YOU KNOW, LIKE LAST WEEK WE HAD A NUMBER OF HURRICANE PREP WEEK POST WE HAD WE SENT EMAILS
TWICE A MONTH REGARDING HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS PREVENTIVE POSTS THROUGHOUT THE SEASON. 
          A NUMBER OF GRAPHICS IN TERMS OF CODE RED AND SIGN UP FOR THAT. 
          IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU ALL SHARE THAT WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS,
YOU KNOW, USING YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY, TOMOGRAM IS A IS ANOTHER SOURCE FOR US TO RELAY THAT YOU KNOW,
HURRICANE SEASON MESSAGE AHEAD OF THE SCHEDULE AHEAD OF THE TIME. SO I'M GOING TO LET MY COLLEAGUES JUMP IN,
BUT I JUST ONE THING THAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IN A CONCENTRATED MATERIAL THAT SPEAKS TO HOW TO SECURE THE PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S WHEN NOT TO TRIM YOUR TREES,
PEOPLE WILL PUT THEIR BULK TRASH OUT THE MINUTE THERE'S A STORM, EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU TELL THEM NOT TO DO OR THAT YOU'RE PREPARING FOR
INTERNALLY, PEOPLE WILL DO THE THE EXACT OPPOSITE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          I'LL TELL YOU, I, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ME PERSONALLY,
I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE SENDING IT OUT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING. SO I'M SURE RESIDENTS ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. 
          PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION UNTIL THEY START TO HEAR A NAME STORM ON THE NEWS. 
          SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE PUT TOGETHER THE MAIN THINGS ARE,
YOU KNOW, TRASH AND TREES, YOU KNOW, AND IF THERE IS A CONSTRUCTION SITE THAT THE SITES NEED TO BE SECURED,
I WOULD, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THAT SPEAKS TO THAT
AND THAT BE AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE MOVING FORWARD DURING HURRICANE SEASON, PRE POST AND DURING, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE ISSUES BE. 
          YOU KNOW, REALLY REST IS WHEN THERE IS A PILE,
THE CALL, THE PHONES ARE GOING TO BE RINGING OFF THE HOOK BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO BE PISSED OFF THAT SOMEONE PUT A BUNCH OF TRASH IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE OR ADDRESS THAT WITHIN 24,
48 HOURS. 
          AND THEN ALSO, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT I'M NOT SURE NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU,
COMMISSIONER, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, BUT WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN ON TOP OF THAT YOU KNOW,
FOR THE PAST EVENTS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A MAJOR CONCERN FROM ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF RESPONSIVE RESPONSIVENESS AND,
AND AND TAKING CARE OF THOSE CONCERNS. 
          WE DO IT'S LIKELY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A MAJOR STORM. 
          WELL, I MEAN, WE HAD A NUMBER OF INCIDENTS AND AS SOON AS THE SIGN OF INCIDENT OR
HURRICANE YOU KNOW SHOWS UP ON, ON TV, YOU KNOW, HOW THE TVS YOU KNOW MAKE SUCH AN INCREDIBLE YOU KNOW,
EVENT OUT OF IT. 
          AND SO WE START GETTING THE THE EXCITEMENT FROM THE,
FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHAT ABOUT THIS? MY LAKE MY SANDBAGS AND THIS AND THAT. 
          AND SO WE'VE BEEN EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE TO ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS AHEAD OF THE AHEAD OF TIME
AND DURING THOSE EVENTS. 
          SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY GOT LOST IN THE IN THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW,
LOOKING FOR HELP. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. 
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CAN WE PUT THESE? THE THE SLIDE BACK UP WITH THE WITH THE GRAPHICS,
THE FLIERS. 
          OKAY. SO I HEARD YOU ABOUT THREE TIMES. YOU TALKED ABOUT ONE VOICE,
ONE MESSAGE. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S EITHER IMPORTANT TO YOU OR YOU WERE BRIEFED A LOT TO SAY THAT AND
WHAT I WILL NOT DO IS PUT THIS GHOSTLY FLIER ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA. I AM EXTREMELY CONFIDENT IN HOW MY SOCIAL MEDIA OPERATES. 
          OVER THE WEEKEND I LOOKED AT IT. IT HAS OVER 400,000 HITS. 
          SO I WOULD REFUSE TO PUT THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          SO BECAUSE YOU HAVE SAID IT THREE TIMES. LET ME BE CLEAR. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO COMPLY WITH A ONE MESSAGE SCENARIO IN PUTTING THIS OUT. 
          WHAT I WOULD DO IS, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA NOW,
AND THE CITY MANAGER ALLUDED TO IT THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS, MESSAGES THAT THE CITY PUTS OUT. 
          SO MAYBE PIO CAN PUT JUST LIKE WE, WE HAVE A PLACE THAT WE PUT ALL OF OUR PRESS RELEASES. 
          SHE CAN PUT A PAGE WITH TALKING POINTS WITH MESSAGES FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THAT
SORT OF STUFF. 
          AND THEN EACH OF US CAN REPACKAGE THE EXACT INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE AND PUT THAT OUT
WITH THE DESIGNS THAT CURRENTLY FIT OUR SOCIAL MEDIA. BECAUSE IF YOU UNDERSTAND SOCIAL MEDIA,
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT RED AND BLUE MIGHT WORK FOR KEISHA'S PAGE, BUT GREEN AND BLUE MIGHT WORK FOR MY PAGE AND YELLOW MIGHT WORK FOR MORRIS
PAGE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING ONE THING IS NOT GOING TO WORK. 
          SO IF IF THE IDEA IS TO PUT THE ONE MESSAGE,
ONE VOICE, BUT DIFFERENT GRAPHIC, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST RESHARING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PUT OUT,
THEN I'M NOT GOING TO COMPLY WITH THAT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO, TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD. 
          SINCE YOU HAVE PUT YOU AT EASE, YOU TAKE SOCIAL MEDIA TO ANOTHER LEVEL. 
          SO I'LL BE YOUR STUDENT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. 
          OKAY. NOW IF YOU WANT TO GET WITH THE PIOS OFFICE AND DETERMINE WHATEVER WORKS GRAPHICALLY
APPEALING TO THE EYE. 
          THIS WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE THE ONES YOU GUYS USE. 
          THIS WAS TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF, OF KIND OF WHAT WE WERE SHOOTING FOR. 
          NOW, I DON'T PRETEND TO BE A SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER BY ANY MEANS. 
          SO I'LL TAKE YOUR ADVICE WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          I'M SORRY, VICE MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST ADD ONE ADDITIONAL THING TO THAT POINT. 
          AND CHIEF, I GUESS TO THE POINT OF US BEING ONE,
YOU KNOW, ONE ORGANIZATION, I DO THINK THAT IT SHOULD REFLECT THE COMMISSION ON THE, ON THE ON THE WHATEVER IS PUT OUT AS WELL. I THINK,
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT OUT SHOULD SHOW AND CONTINUE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE AN ORGANIZATION, THE ENTIRE BODY REFLECTIVE OF THE CITY LEADERSHIP AS WELL AS,
YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, THE TEAM AS WELL. SO LIKE ANY OTHER CITY EVENT OR FLIER,
WHATEVER WE PUT OUT, I THINK IT SHOULD SHOW ALL FIVE OF US ON THERE AS WELL. 
          YEAH. AND I JUST ASKED HIM TO PULL UP THE THE WEBSITE FOR THIS UNIFIED MESSAGE. 
          AND VICE MAYOR. WHEN WE SAY UNIFIED MESSAGE,
I THINK WHAT WE MEAN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SOMETHING SCHEDULED TO SWEEP YOU KNOW, IN NEIGHBORHOOD FOR, FOR TRASH OR BULK PICKUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT, THAT WE SHARE AND,
AND SO OTHERWISE THE, THE, THE, THE GRAPHICS AND ALL THAT OBVIOUSLY IS YOUR CALL, BUT THIS IS THE WEBSITE THAT WE'RE THAT WE PREPARED THIS YEAR ACTUALLY. 
          AND, AND SO THIS WILL BE THE COMMON SITE FOR OUR UNIFIED MESSAGE AND,
AND GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND, AND YOU KNOW, ALL THE RELEVANT INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. AND FOR THE YEAR, YEAR AFTER YEAR, I PUT OUT A DOOR HANGER AND I WILL PUT OUT ONE
THIS YEAR. 
          GIVING RESIDENTS INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING FOR,
FOR THE HURRICANE. 
          AND AS THE RESIDENTS CAN, CAN SEE THE BOTTOM OF THE DOOR HANGER,
IT DOES SAY THAT IT'S REPRODUCED FROM THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDE. 
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SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT THE INFORMATION IS, IS CREDIBLE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WHILE ONE RESIDENT IN THE BERMUDA CLUB MAY NOT LIKE DOOR HANGERS OR ONE
RESIDENT IN MAINLAND'S FOUR MIGHT NOT LIKE, LIKE DOOR HANGERS, THE MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS DO APPRECIATE THEM. 
          AND THEY LOOK OUT FOR THESE DOOR HANGERS. AND SO YOU KNOW,
I'M GLAD THAT THE INFORMATION IS, IS PUT ON THERE. IT IS UPDATED. I LOOKED AT THERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND THE
INFORMATION WAS OUTDATED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A QUITE FRANKLY GOOD AND IT'S,
AND IT'S UPDATED AND IT'S, IT'S RUNNING WELL. 
          SO, SO ABSOLUTELY, YOU CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT I'LL BE DOING MY DOOR HANGER FROM,
FROM THAT WHAT RESIDENTS ALSO ASK FOR IS SANDBAGS. AND I KNOW THAT I KNOW THE ANSWER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE MISTER
MANAGER THAT WE'RE NOT A FLOOD ZONE. 
          AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE GET 20% OFF ON OUR FLOOD INSURANCE AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU VERY PROUD,
VICE MAYOR. 
          I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT I HEARD YOU, BUT HOLD ON. 
          I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR,
WHEN, WHEN THEY ASK FOR SANDBAGS AND WE GET THAT ANSWER BULLY BOLTON HAS ASKED THE MANAGER TO
MAKE SURE THAT SANDBAGS ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT THE PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ARDUOUSLY
TO PREPARE THOSE SANDBAGS. DID WE BUY THE MACHINE THAT I ASKED FOR? DID WE PUT SAND AWAY? ARE WE BEGGING THEM? TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT BULLY BOLTON HAS ASKED
FOR. 
          SO VICE MAYOR WE HEARD YOUR YOUR ASK ON THE ON THE SANDBAGS AND THEN WE HEARD THE
COMMUNITY YOU KNOW, BRING OUT THE THE IDEA OF SANDBAGS. SO WE CONTRACTED WITH A FIRM THAT,
THAT PROVIDES THESE SERVICES TO, TO, TO MOST OF SOUTH FLORIDA. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY,
THEY ACTIVATE AT THE TIME THAT, THAT WE ASKED THEM AND THEY BRING THE SAND, THE SANDBAGS AND THE STAFFING TO PREPARE THOSE
SANDBAGS AND, AND HAND THEM OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT SERVICE IS IN PLACE. 
          VERY GOOD. AND SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT IT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED EQUALLY AMONG COMMISSIONERS,
DEPENDING ON WHETHER THEIR COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR SANDBAGS OR, OR THAT SORT OF STUFF. FORTUNATELY AS WELL. 
          I'VE BEEN SOURCING WATER FROM LOTS OF PLACES. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT HURRICANE SEASON WILL BE ACTIVE THIS YEAR. 
          SO WATER WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM. TAMARAC YOU ASK FOR WATER? BOLTON WILL HAVE WATER. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS THAT IS EFFECTIVE AND OUT THERE AS
WELL. 
          AND LISTEN, HURRICANES ARE NOT POLITICAL. IF HURRICANES ARE NOT POLITICAL,
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LEADERS ARE ON THE FRONT LINES WHEN THEY THINK ABOUT CALLING THE CITY,
THEY'RE NOT CALLING THE THE CLERK'S OFFICE. 
          THAT'S NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE PHONE EITHER. THEY'RE GOING TO CALL OUR CELL PHONES,
AND THEY EXPECT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET AN ANSWER. 
          IT'S NOT A SHOT TO YOU, KIM, BUT THE CITY CLERK'S NUMBER IS WHAT IS MOST TIMES PUBLISHED. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CALL OUR CELL PHONES AND THEY EXPECT US TO ANSWER. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF IF IF I'M OUT AND YOU SEE ME OUT,
IT JUST MEANS THAT MY SOCIAL MEDIA IS REACHING YOU AND MY CELL PHONE IS MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN YOURS. SO THAT'S WHY THEY CALL ME AND NOT YOU. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. THAT'S THE END GOAL. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS
ARE SAFE. 
          THIS HURRICANE SEASON. SO HOPEFULLY THIS GRAPHIC GETS CHANGED SOON. 
          LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DONE THROUGH AI. SO HOPEFULLY IT'S CHANGED SOON AND AND WE'LL HAVE A
WONDERFUL FLIER UP. AND I SAY THAT AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION BECAUSE HURRICANE SEASON,
NOTHING IS WONDERFUL ABOUT HURRICANE SEASON. 
          BUT IF THE INFORMATION IS WELL PUT TOGETHER AND READABLE IN TEXT THAT ALSO,
IS ACCESSIBLE TO RESIDENTS WHO HAVE READING PROBLEMS, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE A 55 AND OLDER STRONG 55 AND OLDER POPULATION. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WE PUT ON A SINGLE GRAPHIC. 
          MAYBE IT CAN BE MULTIPLE PAGES. IF IT'S SOCIAL MEDIA,
MAYBE IT CAN BE A CAROUSEL. 
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BUT JUST TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION ON ONE,
YOU KNOW, THING, OUR RESIDENTS MIGHT NOT ENJOY THAT. 
          AND LASTLY, DOOR HANGERS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOME OF OUR SENIORS STILL DON'T GO ON THE
COMPUTER. 
          SOME OF THEM STILL CAN'T USE IT. SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE TEXT MESSAGES. 
          AND SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE A PHONE THAT CAN GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA EITHER. 
          I KNOCKED ON THE DOOR IN KINGS POINT JUST TWO DAYS AGO. 
          AND ONE RESIDENT. YOU KNOW, HAD I ASKED HER FOR HER CELL PHONE NUMBER AND SHE SHE SAID SHE
DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IT. 
          SO SHE, SHE DIALED MY NUMBER SO I CAN GET HER NUMBER. 
          AND HER CELL PHONE WAS LIKE A FLIP PHONE, RIGHT? SO FLIP PHONES ARE BACK. FLIP PHONES ARE BACK,
RIGHT? THIS THIS ONE. IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS A REALLY OUTDATED FLIP PHONE. 
          SO SHE CAN'T GET PICTURE MESSAGES, YOU KNOW,
SO WE HAVE TO CATER CATER FOR EVERYBODY. 
          AND SO YEAH. AND SO MAYBE YOU CAN POLL THE RESIDENTS TO US TO ASK THEM,
ASKING THEM WHAT THEY WANT. 
          AND BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU POLL IN A CLOSED GROUP,
EVEN IF YOU SEND THAT POLL TO YOUR FRIENDS, THE RESULT OF THAT POLL DOES NOT WORK. IT IS ONLY TO THOSE WHO YOU SEND IT TO. 
          IT REGISTERS THE PHONE NUMBER AND IT CALCULATES THE,
THE, THE, THE RESULTS PER PERSON. 
          SO IF YOU SEND A POLL TO YOUR FRIENDS TO MAKE YOU LOOK FAVORABLE,
THEN THE OTHER ONE. 
          IT WON'T WORK. SO I'M HAPPY THAT I'M FAVORABLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY BY 68%. 
          BUT I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. POLITICS ASIDE,
ANYWAY I'VE ASKED OVER THE YEARS AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH IT FOR WHATEVER REGULATIONS THAT WE COULD HAVE MADE
CHANGES TO ALLOW FOR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. SO IF A NEIGHBOR IS OUT OF TOWN, WE CAN'T PUSH THEIR PROPERTY,
BUT THEY MAY HAVE STUFF ON THEIR BACKYARD THAT IS GOING TO BE A PROJECTILE INTO ANOTHER PERSON'S YARD. THEIR TREES MAY BE OVERHANGING. 
          WE HAVE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WORK ON SOME RULES ON HOW TO HELP IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION,
TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS FROM NEIGHBORS WHO ARE NOT AVAILABLE, NOT REACHABLE. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND TIME TO GET THAT DONE BEFORE THE SEASON
STARTS? MAYOR. THAT'S A TALL ORDER. IT'S BEEN A TALL ORDER FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          I'VE BEEN ASKING SO IT GETS TALLER WHENEVER WE GET CLOSER,
RIGHT. 
          AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION IS IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW BECAUSE
THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT IT HAS A LOT OF NUANCES,
OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND SO YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS AN ISOLATED INCIDENT HERE AND THERE NOTHING STOPS US FROM,
FROM FROM, FROM JUMPING IN, BUT IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE ADOPTING THAT AS A POLICY THROUGHOUT THE CITY,
THEN IT'S A, IT'S A TRULY A TALL ORDER. IT IS, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHEN IF CODE IS COMING BEHIND
OUR HOMES BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE IT. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THEY SEE THAT A PERSON WAS IN THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTION,
BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY CAN'T COMPLETE THEIR CONSTRUCTION STORMS COMING. 
          THEY HAVE TO GO OUT OF TOWN. THEY'RE NOT REACHABLE. 
          THEIR STUFF'S STILL ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING
TOGETHER THAT CAN HELP THE NEIGHBORS DEAL WITH THIS AND HELP THE CITIES DEAL WITH THIS. 
          SO I THROW THAT OUT THERE AS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE YET TO RESOLVE. 
          WE ALSO, WHILE WE DON'T GIVE LEGAL ADVICE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME MANNERISM TO BE ABLE TO
EDUCATE OUR PUBLIC OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE TREES THAT ARE OVERHANGING EACH OTHER'S BACKYARDS OR SOMEBODY'S LIMB THAT'S TOUCHING THEIR
ROOF. 
          THAT'S NOT THEIR TREE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A TREE COMES DOWN IN A STORM AND IT HITS MY
PROPERTY, BUT IT'S NOT MY TREE. THEY'RE GOING BACK TO WHAT ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER
PATTERSON. 
          THE PANIC COMES AFTERWARDS. BUT IF WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE PREPPED BEFOREHAND TO KNOW THEIR
RIGHTS AND KNOW WHERE THEY CAN FIND THE INFORMATION, IF WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE CERTAIN INFORMATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE THEIR
LAWYERS, BUT WE'RE THE ONES WHO COME UP AND CLEAN UP IN THE END BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO
HAVE A DISPUTE. 
          THE FENCE IS GOING TO BE DOWN, LIMBS ARE GOING TO BE ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMS, AND THEY COME TO THE CITY AND THEY COME TO ALL FIVE OF US,
NOT JUST A DISTRICT COMMISSIONER OR COMMISSIONERS. 
          THE FIVE OF US REPRESENT THE CITY AS WHICH HAS BEEN MENTIONED. 
          WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ONE TAMARAC, AND WE'VE GOT TO STOP THIS DIVIDE BECAUSE IT CAN'T JUST
GET ALL OF A SUDDEN TOGETHER IN THE MIDDLE OF A STORM. 
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SO WHAT DOES THE CITY HAVE IN PLAN, IN PLACE,
OR WHAT WILL THE CITY BRING BACK TO US FOR A PLAN IN PLACE TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS DURING THAT PART OF THE SEASON? THE TIME AFTER A STORM. 
          I GAVE YOU THE OUT, RIGHT? NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND. 
          I'M TRYING TO I'M TRYING TO SEE BASED ON ALL THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE POST STORM. THERE IS STILL SOME INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR,
FOR YOU KNOW, TAKING SOME, SOME MEASURES. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW,
IT MAY HAPPEN, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN IN THE POST YOU KNOW, EVENT THEN, THEN WE DO CLEAN UP, BUT EVEN THAT IS RESTRICTED TO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS. 
          AND THEN I THINK THE LAST YEARS WE, WE'VE DID WE ASK FOR,
FOR FOR AUTHORIZATION TO MANAGE PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WELL OR, OR PICK UP DEBRIS FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WELL. 
          I THOUGHT THERE WAS A FEW INCIDENTS THAT, THAT IT WAS NOT REIMBURSABLE BY FEMA. 
          AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS THE THE, THE LINE,
BUT I THINK THERE WAS SOME, SOME GUIDANCE TO PUBLIC TO PUT THEIR DEBRIS ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY SO IT COULD BE
PICKED UP. 
          THAT'S ON CLEAN UP STUFF. BUT I MEAN, EVEN YOUR GARBAGE CANS,
IF PEOPLE DON'T PUT THEM AWAY AND THERE'S NOT STUFF IN THE GARBAGE CAN, THAT GARBAGE CAN IS A PROJECTILE. SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEAUTIFUL HANGING PLANTS OUTSIDE,
OR THEY HAVE PLANTS ON THE BOTTOM THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT HEAVY PLANTS. THEY CAN BE WHIPPED UP AND GO FLYING AS WELL. 
          PEOPLE WANT TO BE NEIGHBORLY AND HELP NEIGHBORS,
BUT THEY GET SCARED TO HELP NEIGHBORS WHEN THERE'S A FEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE LIABILITY FOR IT. AND AGAIN, IT COMES BACK TO THE CITY. 
          IS THERE A WAY THAT WHEN WE HAVE PERMITS OUT THERE FOR BUILDINGS,
ANYTHING BEING DONE FOR STRUCTURES THAT WE WRITE IN THAT PERMIT THAT IT HEREBY ALLOWS THE CITY,
IF THEY'RE NOT THERE AND REACHABLE, THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO TEXTS, NOT RESPONDING TO PHONE NUMBERS, TO PHONE CALLS THAT THE CITY IS HEREBY AUTHORIZED TO MAKE
SURE TO GO ON THAT PROPERTY TO SECURE ANY DEBRIS THAT THEY SEE ON THE BACKYARD, ON THE BACK OF A HOME,
OR IN THE FRONT OF THE HOME. 
          LIKE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAVERS THAT ARE THEIR GRANTED,
PAVERS PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO GO FLYING ANYWHERE, BUT IF THEY HAVE THE SAND PILES AND THEY HAVE VARIOUS THINGS THAT ARE NOT AS HEAVY THAT THEY CAN FLY,
JUST SOME MECHANISM TO HELP EACH OTHER. 
          SO AS I, AS I MENTIONED IN THE BEGINNING THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S PART OF THEIR
RESPONSIBILITY IS TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION SITES AND PROVIDE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE SECURE. 
          NOW I THINK LET ME, LET ME, LET ME ADD ON THAT IS NOT ONLY CONSTRUCTION SITES,
IT'S HOMEOWNERS DOING THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION. AND IT'S A MATTER OF ALSO MAKING IT WHERE YOU SAID ABOUT PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY, IF IT'S ON THAT PERMIT AND IT'S PULLED BY THE CONTRACTOR,
PULLED BY THE HOMEOWNER. 
          THAT IS ANOTHER LAYER OF UNDERSTANDING THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY DURING A PROJECT THAT
GOES ON IN THE MIDDLE OF HURRICANE SEASON, THAT HOMEOWNERS AND THEIR CONTRACTORS NEED TO BE MINDFUL FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS. 
          CITY ATTORNEY WANTED TO SAY, YEAH, I THINK ALL THESE ISSUES COME TO THE ISSUE OF HURRICANE
PREPAREDNESS, WHICH THE CITY HAS TO OBVIOUSLY GET THE MESSAGE OUT,
ESPECIALLY CONTRACTORS WHO ARE DOING WORK ON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, RESIDENTIAL HOME. THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY A DUTY TO CLEAN UP THE SITE. 
          I THINK BUILDING DEPARTMENT NEED TO EMPHASIZE THAT PRIOR TO THE HURRICANE SEASON STARTING
THAT, HEY, IF YOU'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION WORK UNDER A PERMIT IF YOU RECEIVE,
YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF HURRICANE WARNING, IT'S YOUR DUTY AS A CONTRACTOR TO CLEAN UP THAT SITE,
SECURE THAT SITE WITH RESPECT TO RESIDENTIAL HOMES. 
          IF THE OWNER IS AWARE, AS YOU INDICATED, MAYOR NEIGHBORS WANT TO HELP. 
          THAT'S BETWEEN THOSE TWO. BUT IF THE CITY WANTS TO START A PROGRAM,
YOU WOULD HAVE, I WOULD SUGGEST SOME KIND OF CONSENT AGREEMENT. 
          SO IF THE CITY CITY OFFICIALS OR PUBLIC WORKS INTO ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE PERMISSION. ALSO, THAT PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HOLD THEM HARMLESS. 
          SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN START THIS MARRIAGE IF YOU HAVE,
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE MANPOWER WOMAN POWER TO DO IT, BUT THAT CAN OBVIOUSLY HELP. IF PEOPLE ARE NOT IN TOWN DURING HURRICANE SEASON,
SOME KIND OF CONSENT AGREEMENT TO IF SOMETHING 
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HAPPENED. THERE'S A PROPERTY, AS YOU INDICATED,
MAYBE IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION. 
          NO ONE IS THERE THAT THEY COULD WORK WITH. I CALL IT THE GC TO FIX THAT,
BUT I KNOW I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAVE DEALT WITH THIS PERSONALLY, IF YOU HAVE TREES THAT ARE ON YOUR PROPERTY AND IT WASN'T,
YOU KNOW, IF IT WASN'T TRIM OR MAINTAINED BEFORE THE HURRICANE, IF IT FALLS ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY IT'S YOUR
RESPONSIBILITY. 
          IF THAT TREE IS FELL TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY BRING IN SOMEONE TO
CUT THE TREE. 
          AND IF IT DAMAGED THE NEIGHBOR FENCE, YOU HAVE TO FIX IT. 
          YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO FILE AN INSURANCE CLAIM. 
          SO THE HURRICANE DOESN'T CHANGE. I CALL IT PROPERTY RIGHTS,
THE TORTS. 
          IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THAT. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
THAT'S YOU AND THE NEIGHBOR. 
          IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET ALONG, YOU USUALLY WORK THOSE ISSUES OUT. 
          BUT IF THE TREE IS ON YOUR PROPERTY AND THE HURRICANE,
BLOW IT NEXT DOOR DAMAGE THAT PROPERTY NEIGHBOR GOING TO BE LOOKING AT YOU? WELL, THAT WORKS IN THEORY, BUT WHEN THE NEIGHBOR DOESN'T ADMIT THAT THAT BIG OLD TREE
WITH THE ROOTS RIGHT BY THE FRONT DOOR IS THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY, YOU DO GET TO CUT IT ON YOUR PROPERTY LINE. CORRECT. 
          YOU CAN PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY LINE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT PERSON TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT IT'S A TREE THAT'S THEIRS. 
          SO THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF NUANCES TO THAT. BUT THE JURY DOES FLY,
AND IT'S A MATTER OF WHEN. 
          THE CITY HAS CERTAIN RULES AND REGULATIONS AVAILABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THEIR
ABILITIES AND THEIR RIGHTS, THEN THEY KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR,
IS SOME KIND OF ABILITY TO LET THEM KNOW AND HOW TO TO WORK IT OUT. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. SO SOMEHOW,
IF YOU CAN, TO BRING SOMETHING ABOUT, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS ON THE COMMISSION TO WORK ON SOME KIND OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN
FOR NEIGHBORS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. 
          SO THERE'S SOME KIND OF CONCERN AND IT HAS TO BE BRAINSTORMED. 
          IT HAS TO BE PUT TOGETHER WITH WHAT WE ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO VERSUS OVERSTEPPING
BOUNDS. 
          BUT WHEN YOU KNOW THAT SOMEBODY'S AWAY FOR A MONTH,
THE SNOWBIRD LIVES NEXT TO YOU AND THEY'RE OVERGROWN AND THEIR, THEIR STUFF, THEIR, THEIR PATIO SET IS OUT THERE. 
          AND WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE EXPECTING A CATEGORY FIVE,
YOU KNOW, OR EVEN A FOUR OR A THREE PEOPLE PANIC. 
          AND THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TRYING TO NOT HAVE PANIC,
WHAT KIND OF ABILITY WOULD THE CITY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO HELP THEM NOT HAVE PANIC? AND IF THE ANSWER IS NOTHING, THEN AT LEAST WE BRAINSTORM IT. 
          BUT WE'VE NOT DONE THE WORK TO BE ABLE TO CONFIRM WHETHER THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT
SAY, IF I'M GOING NEXT DOOR, MY NEIGHBORS ARE OUT OF TOWN,
I CAN'T REACH THEM, BUT THEY PROBABLY WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE ME TAKING THEIR GARBAGE CANS INTO MY PLACE SO IT DOESN'T GO, YOU KNOW, INTO ALL THE STUFF THAT THEY'VE GOT ON THEIR
PROPERTY, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE LIABLE FOR IT OR IT GOES FLYING INTO A CAR. 
          WELL, WELL, MAYOR, WITH RESPECT TO NEIGHBORS I WOULD SAY VERBAL AGREEMENT. 
          OBVIOUSLY THAT CAN BE WORKED OUT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT NEIGHBOR. 
          I THINK THE ISSUE MAY ARISE. LET'S ASSUME THAT PERSON DON'T DO NOT HAVE A NEIGHBOR AND
THEY NEED HELP SNOWBIRDS WHO, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO CALL TO ASSIST THEM AND WHETHER WE CAN COME UP WITH A
PROGRAM TO HELP THAT. 
          AND THAT'S MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A,
THAT'S ANOTHER LEG OF IT. 
          YEAH. OKAY. BUT, BUT THE LIABILITY ISSUE THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS IF ONE AGREED
TO HELP THE OTHERS. 
          SO I THINK IT COMES DOWN THROUGH SOME NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT TO HAVE DAMAGE TO THEMSELVES
AND THEIR PROPERTY DUE TO SOME NEIGHBOR WHO'S NOT IN TOWN REALIZING THAT THAT NEIGHBOR, NOT SAYING THEY'RE DOING IT INTENTIONALLY. MAY NOT REALIZE THE AMOUNT OF EFFECTS THAT
THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND SO ANYWAY THAT HORSE IS DEAD. OTHER ADVERTISING MECHANISMS THAT PEOPLE DEFINITELY
ALWAYS LOOK TO IS THEY LOVE THE TOMOGRAM. 
          SO THE INFORMATION IS IN THE TOMOGRAM. I'M SURE IT'S GOING IN FOR THE JUNE 1ST DELIVERY. 
          AND WHILE PEOPLE, IF THEY LOVE THEIR DOOR HANGERS,
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HOME, BUT THEY GET MAIL AND THEY GET THEIR MAIL FORWARDED TO THEM WHEREVER THEY MAY BE. 
          SO MAIL IS STILL ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO REACH OUR POPULATION THAT IS FULL OF FLIP PHONES
AND TO, TO IPHONES AND TO WHATEVER OTHER COMPUTER GADGETS PEOPLE HAVE. 
          SO I AGREE THAT THE MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE ALL INCLUSIVE,
WHICH INCLUDES THE FIVE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION TO WORK AS A TEAM AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO 
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MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL THERE FOR THEM,
AND THINGS WILL BE DONE IN A WAY TO KEEP THEM AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE. 
          COMMISSIONER I'M NOT SURE. IS THAT NEW OR OLD? IT'S NEW, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO ADD. BUT I ASKED YOU ABOUT THE TREES AND HE TOLD ME THAT
THE CITY HAS NEVER HAD THIS ISSUE. 
          SO I JUST KIND OF I DIDN'T JUMP BACK ON THAT ONE. 
          BUT SINCE THE MAYOR IS NOW SAYING THEY SEEM TO BE A TREE ISSUE,
THERE IS JUST KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE FACT THAT I IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE I CAME FROM. 
          EVERY CITY HAS THE SAME CONCERNS. PEOPLE HAVE TREES THAT FALL OVER PEOPLE'S FENCES. 
          TREES ARE ALWAYS AN ISSUE. MY NEIGHBOR'S TREES ARE FALLING OVER MY PROPERTY LINE AND I
KNOW I CAN CUT THEM IF THEY FALL ON MY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          BUT NOT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING. 
          AND THEN WHEN THE HURRICANE COMES, PEOPLE SUDDENLY BECOME CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY'RE
WORRIED ABOUT TREES. 
          SO BUT I DON'T KNOW, MAN, YOU SAID THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS ISSUE. 
          SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE I COME FROM. OH YEAH,
I KNOW WE HAVE THIS ISSUE. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS ISSUE. SO I WAS JUST ASKING THAT IN,
IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER THIS STUFF IS THAT I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS GOING OUT OR NOT, BUT WHATEVER WE'RE PUTTING OUT, THERE NEEDS TO BE EDUCATION AROUND WHAT TO DO TO PREPARE
FOR THE HURRICANE SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF IF THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN CUT WHAT'S ON THEIR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW WE LEGALLY COMMUNICATE THAT,
BUT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO AND THAT THEY SHOULD PREPARE NOW AND NOT WAIT UNTIL THERE IS A STORM OR SOMETHING NAMED. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS COMMUNICATING IN TERMS OF WHAT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD ALSO BE PUSHING OUT,
IN ADDITION TO CODE RED. 
          AND WITH THAT, I KNOW WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY USE THIS PERSON OR USE THAT PERSON,
BUT AT THIS TIME, WE ALSO NEED TO BE AWARE OF SCAMMERS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL GO OUT AND SAY THAT THEY
CAN CUT THEIR TREES AND TRIM THEIR TREES AND DO ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF, AND THEY CAN EITHER HACK IT, THEY DESTROY THE TREES. 
          IT GOES AGAINST WHATEVER OUR CODE IS FOR TREES. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME INFORMATION OUT THERE NOW,
AND A NUMBER OR A LOCATION OF WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO FIND TRUSTED ARBORISTS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE TREES, BECAUSE HERE'S WHEN PEOPLE START PANICKING. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WE GET THE PHONE CALLS SAYING,
HAS THE CITY TRIM THE TREES? DID THE CITY COME THROUGH AND TRIM THE TREES? ARE THESE TREES THE CITY'S. AND HALF THE
TIME IT'S NOT THE CITY'S. SO AND THEN AS YOU KNOW, THE CANALS. BUT WE'VE GOT THAT PLAN. VICE MAYOR DO WE CHARGE A FEE FOR CUTTING TREES? WE DON'T CUT PRIVATE PROPERTY TREES. 
          LET ME REPHRASE. PRIVATE OWNERS WHO WANTS TO CUT A TREE? DO THEY HAVE TO PAY A PERMIT? CORRECT. AND WE DO CHARGE THAT. 
          OKAY. SO THE QUESTION THEN IS CAN WE WAIVE THE PERMIT FEE FOR CUTTING TREES FROM NOW ON, LET'S SAY JULY 1ST, TO RELIEVE RESIDENTS WHO MAY WANT TO GET THEIR TREES CUT
IN PREPARATION FOR HURRICANE SEASON? IS THAT A COMMISSION DECISION? YEAH, WE'RE JUST BRING IT UP WEDNESDAY AND GIVE DIRECTION
BECAUSE WE NEED A VOTE ON THAT ONE. 
          IT'S A FEE WAIVER. OKAY. SO DO I JUST BRING IT UP OR CAN YOU ALREADY DO THE RESOLUTION TO
BRING IT ON WEDNESDAY? YEAH. IT'S AN ORDINANCE, I BELIEVE. 
          WE'RE JUST WE'RE LOOKING AT IT. YEAH. YEAH, WE DON'T NEED A PERMIT TO TRIM OUR TREES. 
          NO, NO, NOT NOT NOT FOR PRUNING THE TREES. TREE REMOVAL IS WHAT THE VICE MAYOR IS ASKING. 
          NO, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT PRUNING TREES. I'M TALKING ABOUT CUTTING THE TREE. BUT DON'T WE
NEED TO KNOW THAT THE TREES ARE NOT ALIVE OR GO THROUGH THAT. 
          WELL, I MEAN, IT'S STILL A PROCESS. IT'S JUST A PERMIT FEE WAIVER. 
          BUT BUT WE STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CHECKING THE HEALTH. 
          AND IS THAT UNDER THE $25,000 RULE THAT WE'VE ALLOWED YOU THE ABILITY TO DO THAT? WE HAD THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED ALL THESE TREES THINGS,
SITUATIONS BEFORE, WHEN WE HAD THE LADY WHO WAS GOING THROUGH THE ISSUES WITH THE SIX TREES THAT SHE HAD A PLANT, AND YOU WERE COMPLETELY UNDER YOUR AUTHORITY TO WAIVE THAT
AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE REMOVAL OF THE TREE AND THEN PLANTING SOME,
PLANTING OTHERS. 
          BUT EVEN EVEN THE WHOLE PROCESS, IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE WAIVED UNDER
$2,500, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD BE ASKED AND WE CAN ADVERTISE IT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IF
YOU HAVE OR THE ARBORISTS, WHEN THEY'RE CALLING FOR THE PERMIT THAT COMES TO YOU,
SAY, LOOK, YOU'RE NEEDING HELP WITH THIS. WE'LL MAKE SURE TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          THIS IS A WAIVER WE'VE ALREADY EMPOWERED YOU WITH. 
          SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE POWER,
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ALSO MY IDEA ALREADY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S FINE EITHER WAY. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THE POWER, 
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JUST LET US KNOW. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT,
PLEASE LET US KNOW SO WE CAN BRING IT UP ON WEDNESDAY. 
          DONE. ALRIGHTY. I THINK WE ARE HURRICANE PREPARED AND PROOF WE'VE BEEN AN HOUR ON THIS
ITEM. 
          WE SHALL NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. AND FOR THE PERSON WHO SAID THIS WOULD BE A SHORT
MEETING. 
          THERE YOU GO. THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY ITEM WILL BE COMING BACK AFTER LUNCH. 
          SAM IS ON HIS WAY AFTER AN APPOINTMENT. HE HAS. 
          SO WE WILL BE GOING TO ONE C HOUSING PROGRAMS UPDATE AND DISCUSSION. 
          [1.c Housing Programs Update and Discussion Presented by Kent Walia, Community Development Director & Simone Flores, Housing and Community Development Manager]
THIS IS BEING PRESENTED BY KENT ELLIOTT, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR,
AND SIMONE FLORES, OUR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. WELCOME TO THE TABLE. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COMMISSION. 
          SIMONE HERE WILL BE PROVIDING A PRESENTATION. 
          WILL BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU DIRECTOR. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. FOR THE RECORD, SIMONE FLORES,
HOUSING DIVISION DIVISION MANAGER. 
          I AM HERE TODAY TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME INSIGHTS INTO OUR HOUSING DIVISION,
PARTICULARLY THE WORK WE DO, THE PROGRAMS WE ADMINISTER AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE CITY. 
          IN LOOKING AT THE AGENDA, I WILL START OFF WITH OUR PURPOSE IS REALLY THREEFOLD. 
          IT'S TO SUPPORT HOMEOWNERSHIP, BUILD HOUSING STABILITY AND ALSO BUILD A STRONGER AND SAFER
COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          MOVING ALONG IN THE AGENDA, WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT OUR ANNUAL PARTNERS,
OUR PROGRAMS, OUR LEGAL FRAMEWORK. 
          WE ADMINISTER THESE PROGRAMS, HOW THESE PROGRAMS IMPACT OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AHEAD AT SOME OF OUR BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF OUR FUNDING SOURCES AND OUR PARTNERSHIPS. 
          THESE THREE PROGRAMS IS REALLY THE CORE OF OUR SERVICES IN HOUSING DIVISION. 
          WE PARTNER ANNUALLY WITH OUR US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT,
ALSO KNOWN AS HUD. 
          WE ALSO PARTNER WITH OUR BROWARD COUNTY PARTNERS FOR THE HOME PROGRAM AND WITH THE STATE
OF FLORIDA FOR SCHIP FUNDS ANNUALLY. 
          CDBG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT BRINGS US AN AVERAGE $490,000. 
          SAME WITH OUR HOME PROGRAM, 154,000. I'D LIKE TO PAUSE HERE FOR A BIT. 
          EVEN THOUGH CDBG AND HOME IS GOVERNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,
WE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH BROWARD COUNTY IS THROUGH OUR BROWARD COUNTY HOME CONSORTIUM. 
          WE WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE HOME FUNDS BECAUSE OF OUR PARTNERSHIP IN THE CONSORTIUM. 
          SO THIS ADDS ANOTHER LAYER OF PARTNERSHIP AND REPORTING. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. MOVING ON OUR SCHIP PROGRAM,
STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM SAY THAT THREE TIMES FAST. 
          BRINGS US $550,000 ANNUALLY. THANK YOU TO COMMISSION. 
          COMMISSIONER PATTERSON FOR BEING OUR AHEC MEMBER CURRENTLY SERVING ON ONE OF THOSE BOARDS. 
          IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF OUR SCHIP PROGRAM. IN KEEPING WITH OUR ANNUAL SOURCES,
OF COURSE. 
          THE CITY HAS ITS NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM DESIGNED TO ASSIST OUR HOMES AND OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE LEGALLY REGISTERED AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          THAT PROGRAM ASSISTS THE HOA'S TO SUPPORT THEIR COMMUNITY PROJECTS,
WHETHER IT'S BEAUTIFICATION, MAYBE SOME TREE REMOVAL OR ACTIVITIES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          WE FUND THAT PROGRAM FROM LOCAL RESOURCES TO THE TUNE OF $50,000. 
          SETTING ASIDE OUR ANNUAL CORE PROGRAMS, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CALL ADMINISTER SOME OF OUR
SPECIAL PROJECTS. 
          AND THOSE ARE LIKE THE ONE OFFS IN CASE OF THE UNFORTUNATE EVENT OF A DISASTER. 
          FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE HAD TO RECOVER FROM OUR PANDEMIC,
WE, THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WAS BORN OUT OF THOSE FUNDS. WE ALSO ADMINISTER DISASTER RECOVERY INITIATIVES SHOULD IN CASE THE NEED ARISE. 
          AND THEN OTHER SPECIAL HOUSING PROJECTS ACCORDINGLY,
BASED ON FUNDING AVAILABILITY AND PROGRAM COMPLIANCE. 
          SO NOW THAT YOU'VE SEEN OUR SOURCES, THIS IS HOW WE IMPLEMENT THOSE FUNDING INTO REAL
IMPACT. 
          IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT TWO PROGRAMS,
THOSE ARE OVERSUBSCRIBED PROGRAMS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          SO OUR FIRST TIME HOME BUYER AND OUR MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM. 
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BOTH PROGRAMS ARE DESIGNED TO ASSIST HOMEOWNER PURCHASE HOMES,
HOME BUYER PURCHASE HOMES, EXCUSE ME. AS WELL AS HOME OWNERS REPAIR THEIR HOMES TO THE TUNE OF UP TO $85,000. 
          THESE PROGRAMS ARE INCOME ELIGIBLE. WE WORK WITHIN THE ANNUAL INCOME LIMITS TO SUPPORT THE
COMMUNITY. 
          THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR THOSE ARE CDBG HOME OWNERSHIP. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ADMINISTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP GRANTS. 
          WE PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THE HOA TO THE TUNE OF $1 SHY OF 5000 TOWARDS THEIR COMMUNITY
PROJECTS. 
          MOVING ON. WE ALSO ADMINISTER PUBLIC SERVICES,
WHICH IS REALLY AN ARM OF SOCIAL SERVICES WHERE WE, WE PARTNER WITH OUR NONPROFIT ENTITIES TO REACH CITIZENS WHO MAYBE HAVE CHALLENGES
NAVIGATING LIFE. 
          THAT IS CAPPED AT 15% ANNUALLY. SO THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT WE CAN DO. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE ENGAGE OUR NONPROFITS TO KIND OF REACH THE RESIDENTS THAT WE CANNOT
REACH DIRECTLY. ALSO ON A QUARTERLY BASIS DURING THE YEAR, WE ALSO CONDUCT HOA LIAISON FORUMS WHERE WE INVITE THE HOA AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD
ORGANIZATIONS. 
          WE INVITE THE BOARDS TO BRING THEIR BRING THEIR QUESTIONS AND JUST EDUCATE THEM ON THE
PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE TO HELP THEM SUPPORT AND BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND THEN WE PARTNER THROUGH OUR FAIR HOUSING NONPROFIT ENTITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE
WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY KNOWS THEIR RIGHTS TO FAIR HOUSING, KNOW THAT THEY HAVE EQUAL AND FAIR ACCESS TO HOUSING. 
          OKAY, SO HOW DO WE DO THIS WORK? WHAT IS OUR LEGAL FRAMEWORK? SO FOR OUR CDBG AND HOME PROGRAM, WE WORK WITHIN WHAT WE CALL A FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED
PLAN AND ANNUAL ACTION PLAN. 
          THIS IS OUR LEGAL FRAMEWORK FOR DESIGNING AND CREATING OUR PROGRAMS. WE HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THIS PLAN. 
          WHAT HOW WE ESTABLISH THIS. WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE DO SURVEYS. WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT GAUGES OUR
PROGRAM PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          AND ANY CHANGES TO THE TO THIS TO THIS PLAN REQUIRES PUBLIC HEARINGS AND PUBLIC INPUT. 
          AND WE MUST FOLLOW OUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN. 
          STATE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE WITH THESE TWO PROGRAMS. LIKE I SAID,
LIKE I SAID EARLIER, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO POSSIBLE CLAWBACKS FROM OUR PROGRAM, WHICH CAN BE VERY IMPACTFUL NEGATIVELY BECAUSE WE TEND TO REPAY FROM OUR
NONFEDERAL SOURCES. 
          AND STAINED WITH A LINE OF LEGAL COMPLIANCE AND REQUIREMENTS,
THE SHIP FUNDS SIMILARLY TO CDBG AND HOME HAS ITS OWN GOVERNING PLAN. 
          IT'S CALLED THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF, THAT IS THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO AS WE ADMINISTER OUR
PROGRAMS. THIS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS ONE OF THE CORE SOURCES OF OUR MINOR HOME REPAIR
PROGRAM AND OUR FIRST TIME HOMEBUYER PROGRAM. 
          AGAIN THE LAB IS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY AND THEN UPDATED EVERY THREE YEARS AND SUBMITTED
TO THE STATE. 
          ANY CHANGES TO THIS REQUIRES MEETING WITH THE AHAC ANNUALLY AS WELL AS,
MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL BEFORE WE BE FORWARDED ON TO THE STATE. 
          COMPLIANCE WITH THIS AGAIN, SAME, SAME CONSEQUENCES IF WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. 
          AND WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING ALL THE STRATEGIES LISTED IN THE LAB,
WE CAN BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THE STATE. 
          AND CONTINUING ON WITH COMPLIANCE. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO KIND OF FOCUS ON OUR
DAY TO DAY WORK. 
          REGARDLESS IF WE'RE DOING FIRST TIME HOME BUYER,
MINOR HOME REPAIR OR ANY OTHER STATE OR FEDERAL PROGRAMS. THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT WE MUST ADHERE TO. FOR EACH AND EVERY APPLICANT I'D LIKE TO CALL
ATTENTION TO THE, TO THE SECOND AND THIRD ROW, PARTICULARLY ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND INCOME VERIFICATION. 
          ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS A MUST DO COMPLIANCE FOR EACH PROGRAM AND EACH APPLICANT
APPLICATION. 
          THE MINIMUM DATES FOR CLEARANCE IS 30 DAYS. I SAY THAT TO SAY SOMETIMES WE. 
          WE ARE QUESTIONED WHY OUR APPLICATION IS TAKING LONGER THAN IT SHOULD. 
          THIS IS REALLY A COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT THAT WE MUST DO BEFORE WE EVEN AWARD ANY FUNDS. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WE WORK WITH THE STATE HOUSING HISTORICAL ORGANIZATION WHERE WE'RE
DEPENDENT ON HOW QUICKLY THEY RESPOND TO OUR 
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QUESTIONS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE. SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR POTENTIAL DELAYS IN OUR
PROCESSES. 
          THE OTHER THE INCOME VERIFICATION AGAIN, SIMILARLY TO TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, WE HAVE TO VERIFY THAT EACH APPLICANT MEETS THE INCOME ELIGIBILITY THRESHOLD. 
          AND WHAT THAT MEANS. WE HAVE TO NOW VERIFY THROUGH EXTERNAL SOURCES THAT EACH APPLICANT
TRUE INCOME TO BE QUALIFIED. 
          IN ADDITION TO THOSE, WE PREPARE FOR AUDITS ANNUALLY,
MONTHLY WHENEVER WE GET THEM, WE RECORD KEEPING. 
          MAKE SURE THAT WE PREPARED. WE ARE PREPARED TO RELEASE LIENS. 
          WE PREPARED TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARISES WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE,
FROM THE PUBLIC OR FROM THE STATE OR FEDERAL OFFICIALS. 
          MONITORING IS VERY IMPORTANT. ANOTHER STEP THAT WE DO ON A DAY TO DAY BECAUSE THESE
PROJECTS ARE RESTRICTED, MEANING THAT MOST TIMES THEY'RE RESTRICTED 15 YEAR PERIOD. 
          APPLICANTS SOMETIMES CHANGE THAT WHERE THEY WANT TO BE RELEASED FROM THOSE LIENS. 
          SO WE HAVE TO DO AN ADDITIONAL STEP OF CALCULATING REPAYMENT OR RECAPTURE OR RELEASING THE
LIENS AS THE CASE MAY BE. 
          AND THEN REPORTING, OF COURSE, EACH FUNDER HAS IT HAS THEIR OWN MILESTONES FOR REPORTING. 
          IT CAN BE QUARTERLY, SEMIANNUALLY OR ANNUALLY. 
          ALL RIGHT. TIME FOR THE GOOD STUFF. SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT ON 24. 
          25. HOW WE EXPANDED OUR FUNDS. ON THE ACTIVITIES I MENTIONED EARLIER,
WE CHOSE 2425 BECAUSE IT WAS CURRENTLY IN OUR 2526 PROGRAM YEAR. SO THIS KIND OF GIVES A TRUE PICTURE OF WHAT WILL WE LOOK LIKE COMING
OUT OF THE PANDEMIC. 
          SO FOR, FOR 24, 25 PROGRAM YEAR, WE SPEND 760,000 ON FIRST TIME HOME BUYER 460,000
RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          AND THAT'S DIRECT ASSISTANCE TO HELP PEOPLE RECOVER FROM THE PANDEMIC. 
          MINOR HOME REPAIR. WE SPENT 160,000 PUBLIC SERVICES,
THOSE SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS, 58,000 NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP, 49,000 AND FAIR HOUSING 4000. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE CITYWIDE. 
          LET'S LOOK AT CITYWIDE IMPACT HOUSING DIVISION. 
          WE EXPENDED A TOTAL OF $1.5 MILLION THAT SERVED 540 RESIDENTS AND 14081408 PROJECTS. PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. I DON'T SAY SO MYSELF. 
          SO NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE RECEIVE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS,
WE CAN PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. 
          ON THE SCREEN YOU WILL SEE FOR 2026 THROUGH OUR CDBG HOME,
LOCAL RESOURCES AND SCHIP FUNDS, WE ANTICIPATE PURCHASE ASSISTANCE, 500,000 MINOR HOME REPAIR 900,000,
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM 50,000 OR RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM 190,000. AND OF COURSE, OUR FAIR HOUSING OUTREACH ACTIVITIES REMAIN
CONSTANT AT 4000. 
          AND WHEN I STARTED OFF, I MENTIONED THAT. I'LL GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT INTO OUR CURRENT
BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS. 
          CURRENTLY, WE ARE STRATEGIZING AND BRAINSTORMING ON OTHER MECHANISMS AND WAYS THAT WE CAN
EXPAND OUR REACH IN THE HOUSING DIVISION, PARTICULARLY EXPANDING OUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS MAYBE DIVING INTO
SOME ACQUISITION, RENTAL, REHAB DEVELOPMENT UNITS AS A STRATEGY USING OUR CDBG HOME AND SHIP FUNDS AS
LEVERAGE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THOSE WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT EXPANDING OUR CDBG STRATEGIES,
PARTICULARLY MAYBE TO SUPPORT STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND PUBLIC FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE IF THE NEED ARISES. 
          AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. 
          BEFORE I CLOSE THOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE OUR HOUSING TEAM. 
          WE ARE A TEAM OF FOUR. THEY, THEY COME EVERY DAY. 
          THEY BRING THEIR COMMITMENT AND THEIR PROFESSIONALISM TO MAKE THESE PROGRAMS SUCCESSFUL.
THANK YOU. 
          THEY DO A GREAT JOB. DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? COMMISSIONER. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB. 
          YOU'RE NEW RIGHT? I AM NEW. WELCOME. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I KNOW WE'VE HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. BUT BEFORE I ASK THE QUESTIONS,
I WILL JUST POINT OUT THAT I, I'M HOPING AND I'M THINKING THAT THIS HAS A LOT TO DO WITH SOME OF THE REQUESTS MADE DURING
STRATEGIC PLANNING RELATED TO SENIOR SERVICES AND HOW WE CAN FIND WAYS TO SUPPORT OUR SENIORS OUTSIDE OF COMMISSION INITIATIVES. 
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AND SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL ALLOCATIONS OR SEVERAL PROGRAMS THAT ARE
FEDERALLY FUNDED, CDBG SHIP HOME I WANT TO KIND OF BECAUSE THOSE ARE FEDERALLY REGULATED,
I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND ANY TIME THERE OUTSIDE OF. 
          JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM. 
          DOES THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES REQUIRE US TO GIVE $85,000. 
          OR ARE WE INTERNALLY KIND OF SETTING THOSE ALLEGATIONS? COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION. WE IT'S AN INTERNAL POLICY. 
          HOWEVER OUR SUBSIDY IS CONTINGENT ABOUT CURRENT ON CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. 
          SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IS THAT THE VALUE OF PROPERTIES CONTINUE TO INCREASE
WHILE THE INCOMES DO NOT. 
          AND SO THE PERSONS, PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE LOWER INCOME LEVEL SCALE FIND IT FIND IT VERY
CHALLENGING TO FILL THE HOMEBUYER GAP. 
          SO WE FIND $80,000, $85,000 FILL THOSE GAPS FOR THOSE BUYERS. 
          I MEAN, I GUESS THE TYPICAL CONVENTIONAL LOAN REQUIRES YOU TO PUT DOWN 20%. 
          SO OUR HOME BASED ON OUR HOME VALUES HERE IN TAMARAC IS 85,000. 
          THE DOES THAT FALL INTO THAT 20% RANGE? IT COULD. 
          SO IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOUR AVERAGE COST OF YOUR HOUSE IS 400,000,
400,020%. 
          20 2020 TIMES FOUR. THAT GIVES YOU UP TO 80,000. 
          HOWEVER, IT'S LIKE KIND OF AM I DRIVEN? SO IF YOU'RE LIKE 40%,
AM I YOU'RE TRYING TO BUY THAT $400,000 HOUSE, YOU CAN GET UP TO THAT 85%. HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE AT 80% AMI OR 100% AMI,
YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT LESS THAN THAT, PROBABLY LIKE 20,000, 30,000, WHICH IS KIND OF OUR AVERAGE. 
          BUT I MEAN, AT A 40% AMI, ARE WE POSITIONING THIS PERSON FOR SUCCESS,
FOR LONG TERM SUCCESS? ARE THEY ABLE TO I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE PRE QUALIFICATIONS AND
ALL OF THESE OTHER. 
          DO YOU HAVE TO GET THE MORTGAGE? YOU KNOW, KIND OF SECURED WHEN THEY'RE WORKING WITH US AS
WELL. 
          YOU GUYS SAID 85% IS STANDARD. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? NO, IT'S UP TO I MEAN, 85,000 85,000 IS BASED ON OUR HOME VALUE. 
          85,000 FALLS WITHIN THAT 20%. IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN AVERAGE. 
          OKAY. IT JUST, IT SEEMED KIND OF HIGH. AND IT'S NOT COMMON. 
          OKAY. NOT TO SUGGEST THAT IF IT'S, IF IT'S STANDARD AND THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED,
BUT I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT A MATH GIRL AT ALL, SO WHATEVER, BUT 85,000 JUST SEEMED LIKE A BIG NUMBER FOR A,
FOR A DEPOSIT. 
          AND IF THEY'RE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER, THEY WOULDN'T GO UNDER CONVENTIONAL ANYWAYS. THEY
WOULD PROBABLY FALL UNDER AN FHA LOAN, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE MAYBE A 3% DOWN PAYMENT,
WHICH WOULD THEN MEAN I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GIVING WAY MORE THAN WE NEED TO, BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T QUALIFY CONVENTIONAL, THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF
LOAN. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW. I THINK OUR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT. 
          COLLEAGUES AS A POINT OF CONVERSATION. IF THAT NUMBER IS SET,
POTENTIALLY WE CAN HELP MORE PEOPLE. 
          $85,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR ANY ONE HOMEOWNER OR FIRST TIME HOME BUYER. 
          WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE CLAWBACK? HOW LONG DO THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN OUR CITY
BEFORE THAT MONEY HAS TO BE? IT'S 15 YEARS. 15 YEARS. HOLY COW. THAT'S A LONG COMMITMENT. 
          AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE A DE ESCALATING THING. ONCE THEY HIT THAT TEN YEAR MARK,
IT GOES DOWN LIKE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE IF THEY WANT TO REPAY THAT BACK. 
          BUT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE PEOPLE WHICH WE RECOVERED FUNDS. 
          YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE MARKET RATES STARTED GOING HIGHER AND THEY HAD GOT THESE
LOANS TEN YEARS AGO, THEY'RE LOOKING TO SELL THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GIVE US THAT MONEY BACK. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T LOVE THAT. IS THAT A FEDERAL GUIDELINE IS 15 YEARS THERE,
THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GUIDELINE? YES. SO WE HAVE NO JURISDICTION IN MODIFYING THAT. 
          WOW. I WOULDN'T TAKE THE MONEY. 15 YEARS IS A LONG TIME. 
          WOW. ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS AND I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT'S THE SAME THING
FOR THE, FOR THE OTHER, FOR THE MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM. SO IT'S 15 YEARS IF THEY TAKE 85,000 FROM THE
CITY AND IT'S 85. 
          IS THAT A IS 85 THE BASE OR IS THAT A SLIDING RANGE? YES. THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY THE BASE. IT'S 85,000. 
          SO YOU CAN GET $85,000. AND ANY REPAIRS MADE,
YOU HAVE TO STAY IN THE HOUSE FOR 15 YEARS. 
          15 YEARS. YES. ALL RIGHT. THE, THE OTHER TWO PROGRAMS,
THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND THE CITY. 
          THE CITY. WHAT IS IT? THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          YEAH. THE 50,000 IS WHAT IS THAT COMING FROM? I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IF THAT WAS COMING FROM. IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED USING THESE
DOLLARS AS WELL. 
          SO THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS CREATED WAS BORN OUT OF ARPA FUNDING WHEN TO
RESPOND TO THE PANDEMIC. 
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SINCE THEN WE HAVEN'T REPLENISHED THAT PROGRAM. 
          HOWEVER, WE'RE BRAINSTORMING ON REOPENING THAT PROGRAM FOR THE NEW PROGRAM COMING UP. 
          WELL, WE, THE CITY STILL HAS ARPA DOLLARS. WE DO NOT. 
          OH, OKAY. SO THE PROGRAM IS NOT AVAILABLE. NOT RIGHT NOW. 
          WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE HAD IT AVAILABLE? FROM WHAT I RECALL,
I WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME. 
          I THINK MAXINE KIND OF MENTIONED 2022, 2023 IS KIND OF WHEN THAT STARTED DWINDLING OUT. 
          SO WHY DO WE PRESENT A PROGRAM THAT WE DON'T HAVE? WE HAD CONVERSATIONS TO REINTRODUCE
THAT PROGRAM. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION. YEAH. SO TO KIND OF ANSWER THAT QUESTION ABOUT
POSSIBLY LOOKING AT SENIOR SERVICES, NOW WE HAVE FEDERAL GUIDELINES THERE. YOU COULD ADVERTISE IT TO SENIORS,
BUT IT DOESN'T EXCLUDE NON SENIORS AS WELL. 
          SO WE WERE GOING TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO PROBABLY END OF
AUGUST BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE. 
          SO WE HAD SOMETHING CALLED THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM. 
          NSB. NSB WAS A FEDERALLY FUNDED GRANT WHICH WE DID FOR THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS FOR
ALMOST TEN YEARS. 
          AND THAT NSB PROGRAM HAS. SUNSET. HOWEVER, THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAD TO STAY IN THEIR HOUSE 15 YEARS AND SOME OF THEM HAVE SOLD THEIR
HOUSE TEN YEAR, TEN, YEAR 11. SO THEY GLADLY KIND OF GAVE US BACK THAT MONEY BECAUSE LET'S SAY THEY BOUGHT
THE HOUSE AT LIKE 200,000 AND THEN THEY SOLD IT IN 2023, 2024, 2022, WHEN IT WAS 400 000. THEY'RE MAKING MORE AND THEY'RE JUST LIKE,
HEY, LET'S JUST GIVE THE CITY BACK THE MONEY. 
          SO WE WERE ABLE TO RECOVER LIKE $1.2 MILLION UP TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE ADMINISTRATION. 
          THEN WE WANT TO PUT THAT BACK INTO THE FIRST TIME HOMEBUYER PROGRAM. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THAT 85 IS A MAX AND IT'S UP TO, YOU KNOW,
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME 20 SOME 30 SOME FIFTEENS IN THERE BASED OFF OF, YOU KNOW, THE THE MORTGAGE RATE. THEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE GUIDELINES AND WHAT OUR
ABILITIES ARE FOR THAT MONEY THAT WAS RECOVERED AND TRANSFERRED INTO CDBG. 
          CDBG ALLOWS YOU TO KIND OF DO A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THE ARPA AND BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT RENTAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND SO FORTH. 
          SO WE WERE LOOKING AT ALLOCATING A PORTION AND THEN THERE'S CAPS. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT CAP IS,
AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN ALLOCATE SOME FUNDS TO DO KIND OF WHAT THAT WAS. 
          SO THE FUNDS THAT WERE RECOVERED ARE STILL SUBJECT TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS. 
          IT IS. THAT'S SO NOT COOL. SO THE 1.5 MILLION,
WHATEVER IT IS, $1.2 MILLION. WHO SAYS, WHO, WHO OR WHAT SAYS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE OR SHOULD BE A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM? COULD THAT BE USED FOR ANY OTHER PROGRAM DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE COMMISSION? SO BECAUSE THE FUNDS TRANSFER INTO CDBG TAKES ON ALL THE ELEMENTS OF CDBG,
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DO HAVE THE FIVE YEAR COMP PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS,
AND WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE PRIORITIES SET WITHIN THOSE WITHIN THE COMP PLAN. 
          SO FIRST TIME HOME BUYER IS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES WITHIN THE COMP PLAN. 
          WHAT ELSE IS WHAT ELSE? WHAT OTHER PRIORITIES ARE WE ALSO? WELL, NOT, NOT NOT I'M SORRY, NOT WHAT PRIORITIES ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMP PLAN,
BUT WHAT OTHER VEHICLES DOES CDBG PERMIT US TO BE ABLE TO USE THE DOLLARS FOR? SO RIGHT NOW CDBG AND SOMEONE CAN JUMP IN AS WELL. 
          WE HAVE ALLOWED FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYER, MINOR HOME REPAIR AND PUBLIC SERVICES,
PUBLIC SERVICES AND PUBLIC SERVICES IS LIKE FUNDING NOT FOR PROFITS TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOCIAL SERVICES. HOWEVER THERE'S CERTAIN PERCENTAGES FOR EACH TYPE
OF ACTIVITY ACTIVITY THAT YOU COULD USE IT FOR. SO SINCE THEY CAME OUT OF FIRST TIME HOME BUYER,
THAT IS A LARGER PERCENTAGE CAP ON THAT. 
          I COULD JUMP IN HERE A LITTLE BIT. SO PUBLIC SERVICES. 
          WHAT WHAT WHAT THAT PROGRAM, THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS CONSIDERED A PUBLIC
SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S A DIRECT FORM OF ASSISTANCE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES IS CAPPED AT 15% OF THE ALLOCATION. 
          SO NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, WE CAN'T BE THE 1.2 IN THIS CASE. 
          OR WOULD IT BE OUR TOTAL ALLOCATION. IT WILL BE 15% OF THE TOTAL,
THE TOTAL ALLOCATION. 
          SO RIGHT NOW SO BECAUSE I THAT WAS IN THE NEXT QUESTION. 
          SO PUBLIC SERVICES HAS WE'RE NOT ONLY FUNDING NONPROFITS. 
          THEY. RIGHT. THEY, THEY DO HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE RESIDENTS INDIVIDUALLY,
INDIVIDUALLY CAN RECEIVE, I THINK IS LIKE 175 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT? NO, NOT FROM US, NOT FROM OUR PROGRAMS. I'VE SENT RESIDENTS OVER THERE. 
          THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? THE 175 THAT THEY CAN GET FROM
SOCIAL SERVICES. 
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THAT'S I BELIEVE THAT'S FROM FROM DONATIONS. RIGHT. 
          MELISSA THE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE OF 175. WHAT DONATIONS? DONATIONS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM FROM PUBLIC YOU KNOW,
FOR, FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE. 
          IT'S NOT DESIGNATED. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT THAT,
THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          MANAGER. NO ONE IS JUST DONATING MONEY TO THE CITY. LIKE,
SO WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM? IS IT GENERAL FUNDS? IT IS IN THE GENERAL FUND. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WAS FUNDED BY DONATIONS COMING
FROM PUBLIC. 
          WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S. OKAY. SO MAYBE I CAN ASK MELISSA TO COME UP HERE AND. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT'S BEING. 
          SO THERE'S A PROGRAM IN PUBLIC SERVICES. YOU GUYS ARE SAYING THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC
SERVICE. 
          IT'S A PUBLIC SERVICE ALLOCATION, WHICH IS 15% OF THE TOTAL CDBG ALLOCATION. 
          AS THAT TOTAL 15% GOING TO NONPROFITS. AND IF SO,
WHAT NONPROFITS ARE THOSE? IF NOT, I MEAN, BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE 15% PERHAPS WERE GOING TO,
I GUESS WHATEVER NONPROFITS, IN ADDITION TO RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HELPED,
I'VE PERSONALLY SENT LIKE 3 OR 4 PEOPLE OVER THERE. 
          SO I'M JUST CURIOUS AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IF PUBLIC SERVICES,
IF WE'RE USING THE PUBLIC SERVICE CHANNEL TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST RESIDENTS WITH DIRECT FUNDS, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM. 
          A AND THEN B, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN, YOU KNOW,
THROUGH THAT VEHICLE, EXPAND THAT PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEED. SO I WOULD DEFER TO MELISSA. THERE'S ADDITIONAL SOCIAL SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY
PARKS AND REC. 
          WELL ADDITIONAL SERVICES PROVIDED BY SOCIAL SERVICES FOR REFERRAL PURPOSES,
BUT IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, THE NONPROFITS THAT, THAT SOME MONEY WAS ALLOCATED BY THE CITY COMMISSION IN,
IN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS STRATEGIES IN TERMS OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY, I BELIEVE. YOU KNOW,
WE, WE WORK WITH A COUNTY RIGHT. 
          SO I COULD JUMP IN HERE SOME OF THE NON-PROFITS THAT WE FUND THROUGHOUT THE YEARS PROVIDE
MEALS ON WHEELS TO OUR SENIORS AND THEY PROVIDE THEY ASSIST DISADVANTAGED YOUTHS TO PREPARE THEM FOR FUTURE SUCCESS IN LIFE. ALSO ASSIST VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO HELP
VICTIMS NAVIGATE OUT OF THAT SITUATION. 
          CURRENTLY, WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING OUR REACH TO ASSIST VETERANS IN THE CITY. 
          SO THAT'S OUR NONPROFIT WORK. YEAH. BUT MANAGER,
I THINK YOU'RE DEFLECTING BECAUSE I, I'M SPECIFICALLY ASKING ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND YOU GUYS ARE LIMITED. 
          YOU GUYS CAN'T HELP PEOPLE WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. 
          YOU GUYS CAN'T HELP PEOPLE WITH INSURANCES. YOU CAN'T HELP WITH HOA. 
          I HAVE PERSONALLY SENT PEOPLE THE OTHER DIRECTION AND THAT'S WHAT I'M MAINLY CONCERNED
WITH. 
          I WANT TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE MADAM DIRECTOR CAN PROVIDE SOME PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS OVER
THERE. 
          $175 NEVER MEETS THE NEED. AND I THINK THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION CAME BY WAY OF THAT. 
          SO IF WE'RE PREPARED, CAN WE JUST GIVE ME SOME MORE CONTEXT AROUND THAT LINE ITEM? WHAT I PROVIDED IS, IS WHAT I'M KNOWN FOR FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT,
THAT THOSE, THOSE DOLLARS WERE OUT OF THE DONATIONS, WHETHER IT'S THE PARROT OR WHETHER IT'S INDIVIDUALS BUT OUR ACTING FINANCIAL SERVICES
DIRECTOR. 
          PRISCILLA RIGHT BACK, WE GIVE THEM MONEY FOR THEM TO GIVE IT RIGHT BACK. ANY CLARITY TO
THAT? GIVEN MONEY TO SOCIAL SERVICES OUT OF MY DONATION FUNDS. 
          PARENT HAS GIVEN MONEY TO RAISE MONEY FOR OUR SOCIAL SERVICES BECAUSE PARROT WAS CREATED
BECAUSE THE CITY OF TAMARAC CAN'T RAISE MONEY FOR DONATIONS. 
          IT'S AS ITSELF. SO THE PARROT FOUNDATION WAS CREATED SO THEY COULD DO EVENTS AND RAISE
MONEY TO GO BACK TO PROGRAMS FOR THE CITY, WHICH INCLUDED SOCIAL SERVICES AND PARKS. OH,
OKAY. 
          OKAY. SHE'S PULLING THAT UP RIGHT NOW. AND, AND BUT TRADITIONALLY WHAT I WAS TOLD IS THAT
THOSE WERE DONATED DOLLARS THAT, THAT WE WE USE FOR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE. 
          OKAY. SO WHILE YOU GUYS FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE I WANT TO,
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS THERE. 
          I, SO THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN THIS, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE GIVEN
OUT. 
          I KNOW I'VE PERSONALLY GIVEN OUT PROBABLY 30 TO $40,000 IN ASSISTANCE WHATEVER IS DONATED, WHEREVER IT'S COMING FROM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING
FROM. 
          A, B, WHAT PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE. HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE TO ASSIST THE RESIDENTS AND
THEN SEE WHETHER OR NOT THIS TEAM 
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CAN SUPPLEMENT AND OR WE IDENTIFY A WAY TO BE ABLE TO BEEF UP THAT PROGRAM OF EVERYTHING
THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          I THINK OUR PRIORITY, OUR BEING, THIS COMMISSION AND OUR RESIDENTS PRIORITY IN TERMS OF
ASSISTANCE HAS BEEN I RARELY GET SOMEONE CALLING ME SAYING, HEY, I NEED TO FIX MY KITCHEN OR I NEED TO FIX MY WHATEVER. 
          I'M GETTING CALLS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T PAY THEIR HOA,
PEOPLE THAT CAN'T PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE,
YOU KNOW, MAKE THEIR MORTGAGE BECAUSE THEIR HOA FEES, PROPERTY TAXES OR WHATEVER. SO AS AN ORGANIZATION,
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW WHERE OUR MONEY IS COMING FROM. 
          WE TALK ABOUT MONEY AROUND HERE A LOT. SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE MONEY IS COMING FROM. 
          B WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PROGRAMS ARE HERE. 
          AND I THINK IF THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PART
OF THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE PROGRAMS HERE AND THEN PROGRAMS THERE AND WE MAKE MENTION OF IT,
BUT WE'RE NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THE PROGRAMS ARE. 
          AND THEN SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW THESE PROGRAMS CAN KIND OF COME TOGETHER COMPREHENSIVELY. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IF THE DONATIONS DON'T COME IN ANYMORE? WHEREVER THESE DONATIONS ARE COMING FROM, THE MAYOR SAYING IT'S,
YOU KNOW, PARROT, WHICH PROBABLY IT IS, BUT LIKE, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T HAVE QUORUM OR WHATEVER AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE I DON'T
EVEN KNOW HOW THEY'RE RAISING IF IT'S THROUGH EVENTS, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THOSE FUNDS ARE NOT AVAILABLE? WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS ARE ADDRESSED. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THE APPROPRIATE VEHICLE IS BY DEPENDING ON COMMISSION INITIATIVES TO DO
THAT. 
          SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MEET THE RULES OF THE
FEDERAL GUIDELINES IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE ARE RECEIVING. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE CLARITY ON WHAT NONPROFITS THAT 15% IS THERE. 
          WHAT DO WE EVEN KNOW? WHAT NONPROFITS ARE RECEIVING THAT 15%. 
          SO MAYBE WE CAN ANSWER THE, THE, THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED,
HOW MUCH OF OUR DOLLARS CAN BE UTILIZED FOR, FOR THOSE? WELL, THEY SAID 15%. RIGHT. AND THAT YOU KNOW,
IN, IN YOU KNOW, WHICH AGENCIES IT MAY SUPPORT AS LONG AS THEY'RE NONPROFITS OR SERVICES. AND THEN THEN CLEARLY THE SECOND QUESTION,
WE'RE FINDING OUT IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT'S A VERY SMALL PORTION. 
          AT $175 PER INCIDENT. AND SO WE'LL FIND OUT HOW MUCH DOLLARS WE HAVE IN THAT ACCOUNT,
BUT IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND THE 15% THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPLEMENT PUBLIC SERVICES. 
          DOES IT HAVE TO GO TO A NONPROFIT, OR ARE YOU GUYS SAYING THAT TYPICALLY YOU WOULD UTILIZE
A NONPROFIT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THESE RESOURCES OR SERVICES AVAILABLE? YES. WHAT WE WHAT NONPROFITS IS,
IS OUR VEHICLE TO REACH THE GREATER CITY OF TAMARAC. ULTIMATELY, WE WANT THE DATA THAT DATA FEEDS INTO CONGRESS TO KIND OF TELL OUR
STORY FOR OUR FUTURE ALLOCATION. 
          SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT GIVES US THE DATA,
THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND TYPE OF DATA THAT WE NEED TO REPORT BACK OUT SO THAT WE CAN SECURE THE FUNDING. BUT HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE UTILIZING THE DOLLARS
STRICTLY FOR TAMARAC RESIDENTS? THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO US AS WELL AND PROVIDE THAT DATA TO US. 
          OKAY. SO AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ROUGHLY TOP OF MY HEAD. $100,000 DIVIDED AMONG FOUR NONPROFITS. 
          AND IS THERE ANYTHING THAT RESTRICTS US FROM USING FROM LIKE CREATING A PROGRAM AND JUST
MAKING THE DOLLARS AVAILABLE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. 
          SO NOT GOOD USING A NONPROFIT. LET'S JUST SAY NOT USING A NONPROFIT AND ENHANCING THAT. 
          175 IF SOMEONE HAS AN EMERGENCY AND THEY NEED DOLLARS,
THAT MAY BE THAT THAT DOLLAR VALUE COULD BE MORE. 
          SO TYPICALLY, THE WAY THE PUBLIC SERVICES CAVEAT PROGRAM WORKS IS THAT WE AS A GOVERNMENT, A GOVERNMENT ENTITY NOT ALLOWED TO DISBURSE FUNDS DIRECTLY TO OUR RESIDENTS,
WE HAVE TO USE A NONPROFIT ENTITY AS THE CONDUIT TO PERFORM THAT ACTIVITY. OKAY. SO COULD THE NONPROFIT THEN CREATE THE PROGRAM? SO COULD THE NONPROFIT BE BE THE VEHICLE? AND THERE BE A PROGRAM THAT RESTS ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF THE NONPROFIT THAT THE CITY IS FUNDING. 
          COULD BE, YES. WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF MONITORING MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT
THERE'S NO FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE THAT'S OCCURRING, BUT PERRY DOESN'T DO RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          WELL, IT COULD. THAT'S THE THING. THE PARK WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE THE FUNDRAISING AND
CHARITABLE ARM OF THE CITY. 
          IF AT THE POINT WHERE IT NEEDS TO EXPAND TO DO OTHER THINGS AND DO GRANTS,
THEN IT CAN BE EXPANDED TO DO SO. 
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IT'S WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW, UNDER THE CHARITABLE ARM OF THE CITY. 
          BUT IT HAD NOT BEEN TAPPED FOR THAT BECAUSE SOCIAL SERVICES HAS RUN EVERYTHING THROUGH THE
NON-PROFITS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE HAS BEEN THE FUNDING GUIDELINES ARE SET AND REPORTING GUIDELINES,
BECAUSE, AS WE HAVE HEARD, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, AS YOU SAY, NICELY, PARTNERSHIPS WHICH MEAN ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY. 
          AND SO BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE TAILORED TO HANDLE IT THAN THE VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE ON THE
NONPROFIT BOARD. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT'S FUNNELED FROM THAT TO THE CITY THROUGH SOCIAL SERVICES. 
          I'LL PLAY THE NEW CARD. WHAT IS IT? AND IS IT LIKE THE BIRD PARK AND REC FOUNDATION OF
TAMARAC. 
          OKAY, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PARROT LIKE THE BIRD. 
          WELL, THE BIRD. THE BIRD IS IS IS A CUTE LITTLE MASCOT OF IT. 
          I JUST, I MEAN, I JUST CAN'T SEE THOUGH WE WERE GOING TO USE MY,
MY, MY I MEAN, THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH INVOLVED WHEN IT COMES TO A GRANT APPLICATION. 
          I JUST CAN'T SEE VOLUNTEERS THAT SERVE ON THAT BOARD THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO,
YOU KNOW, COMMIT MORE TIME TO EVALUATING APPLICATIONS AND GOING THROUGH IT WOULD HAVE TO BE YOU KNOW,
YEAH, AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS FAMILIARITY WITH GRANTS AND THAT HAS THE, YOU KNOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE APPLICATIONS,
PROCESS APPLICATIONS, KNOWLEDGE, SKILL ABILITY, ETC.. BUT I DO THINK THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY KIND OF PARTNERING
WITH, YOU KNOW WE'RE PARTNERING WITH I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED MEALS ON WHEELS,
BUT LIKE WE, SOME OF THE STUFF IS REDUNDANT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A FOOD PARTNER, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE THAT'S HELPING WITH FOOD DISPARITIES. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE,
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, YOU GUYS HAVE ADDITIONAL, I'M USING THIS PUBLIC SERVICE VEHICLE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE
ONLY AVENUE THAT WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE IN HOW WE ARE ASSISTING OUR RESIDENTS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG,
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER AVENUE BASED ON WHAT YOU SPOKE ON TODAY, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE WE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S,
THAT'S THE AVENUE. 
          AND I MEAN, I'LL HEAR FROM THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES,
BUT I THINK I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO FIND A WAY. 
          I THINK ALL OF US CARE EQUALLY ABOUT OUR SENIORS. 
          WE ALL HAVE DONE PROGRAMS TO ASSIST OUR SENIORS. 
          AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY CRITICALLY THINK ON,
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE VEHICLE IS PUBLIC SERVICES. 
          I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHO CAN ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM IF IT'S NOT STAFFED
DIRECTLY. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S SPARE IT. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO DO
IT. 
          BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS THIS IS, YOU KNOW,
THERE NEEDS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP, A MEETING BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THESE DOLLARS AND WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE AND A PROGRAM BORNE OUT OF IT WHERE
PEOPLE CAN GO AND RECEIVE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE. 
          SO JUST CLEAR THE THE NATURE OF THE $175 EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE. 
          AND IT'S IT'S COMPLETELY BASED ON INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS. 
          AND THAT'S NOT PARROT FOUNDATION. IT'S, IT'S INDIVIDUAL DONATIONS THEY DONATE. 
          AND THAT'S THE, THE, THE EXTENT OF THE FUNDS WE HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT ALMOST $4,500 DONATED BASED ON THE THE ACCOUNTING. 
          AND THIS YEAR WE ONLY HAVE $250, BUT AVAILABLE FUNDS FROM LAST YEAR IS ALSO BUDGETED INTO
THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE HAVE A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO USE AS PART OF THAT $175 EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE. 
          SO IT'S COMPLETELY BASED ON DONATIONS. I DON'T THINK THE CITY LEGALLY CAN. 
          THAT'S THE QUESTION. YES. I'M TRYING TO FORMULATE THE QUESTION. 
          LET ME WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO FORMULATE IT, ISN'T THE PURPOSE OF WHY SOCIAL SERVICES WORKS
WITH NON-PROFITS THAT HANDLE GIVING OUT FOR ELECTRIC, GIVING OUT FOR MORTGAGES, AND DEALING WITH RENTAL ASSISTANCE,
TWO ON ONE, ALL THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT HAVE THE GRANT PROGRAM IN PLACE. 
          AND WHEN THEY HAVE THE GRANTS FILLED OUT, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO HELP FUND,
WHICH WHY WE SEND OUR RESIDENTS TO OUR SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THE PROCESS, TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THE SOCIAL SERVICES KEY FUNCTION OBVIOUSLY IS TO PROVIDE REFERRAL SERVICES
TO ALL THE OTHER COUNTY AGENCIES YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE NEED. IT MIGHT BE SAINT THOMAS. 
          I MIGHT BE SCREWING UP THE NAME OF THE CHURCH,
SAINT FRANCIS. ONE OF THE CHURCHES WE WOULD GIVE THEM WHEN OUR RESIDENTS. 
          AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY THE JEWISH FEDERATION. THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER SMALL
ORGANIZATIONS WHERE WE WOULD TELL OUR RESIDENTS TO CALL SOCIAL SERVICES. SOCIAL SERVICES WOULD REACH OUT TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. THAT RESIDENT WOULD GO TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS,
FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, GIVE IT BACK TO OUR SOCIAL SERVICES, AND OUR SOCIAL SERVICES WOULD FUND THEM WITH MONEY
THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH THE ELECTRIC BILLS, 
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TO HELP WITH VARIOUS BILLS THAT THEY HAD. THAT'S HOW IT'S GONE NOW,
IF WE NEED TO TWEAK IT. 
          UNDERSTOOD. BUT WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE IF,
LIKE I SAID, IF IT NEEDS TO BE REFINED, BUT TO BUILD ON ANOTHER LAYER OF THE BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE, ONLY MAKE IT HARDER FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO ONLY
RECEIVE THIS SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY RECEIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T PERSONALLY SEE A PROCESS. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO I DON'T SEE
ANYTHING. 
          IF WE HAD. IF WE'RE RELYING ON RANDOM DONATIONS,
WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHO JUST RANDOMLY DONATES TO THE CITY. 
          THAT'S. BUT IF THE MAYOR WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS PARROT,
WHAT IS THE PARROT MONEY? WHAT'S THE MONEY THAT PARROT IS RAISING? WHERE IS THAT GOING? THAT MONEY IS IS PART OF IT
IS, IS SPONSORING SOME CLASSES AND SOME SUMMER CAMP AND SOME CAPITAL EQUIPMENT FOR,
FOR PARKS I BELIEVE LAST YEAR OR TWO THEY, THEY THEY SPONSORED A BIG ELECTRONIC SCOREBOARD FOR ONE OF OUR
FIELDS. 
          IT WAS FOR OUR THE WATER, THE AQUATIC CENTER. 
          SO, SO WHEN, SO TURKEY TROT IS A PARROT SPONSORED EVENT,
RIGHT. 
          ARE THEY, THEY HOST. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. IT'S A COMPLETE CITY EVENT. 
          THAT'S A CITY EVENT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO HOW DOES WHERE DOES PARROT RAISE? UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE ARE THEY RAISING MONEY? LIKE WHAT'S THEIR RAISING? AND IS THEIR RAISING MECHANISM SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR SOCIAL SERVICES? RIGHT. I MEAN, LET ME MAKE THEY DO BOWLING, THEY DO GOLF. 
          THEY DO A NUMBER OF FUNDRAISERS TO RAISE THEIR FUNDS. 
          I THINK THE GUIDELINES FOR PARADISE ARE SET FORTH IN OUR WEBSITE,
AND MOST OF ITS FUNDING IS DIRECTED TO RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES. 
          THE SCOPE IS NOT BROAD. IT'S REALLY MORE OF RELATING TO PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE THAT SAID, YOU KNOW,
HOMELESS, OTHER TYPE OF SERVICES. 
          SO IT'S MOSTLY PARKS AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES AND IT'S AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION
INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION THAT WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND MOU THAT, THAT SORT OF COVERS THE THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
CITY OF TAMARAC AND THE, IN THE FOUNDATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOT REALLY GETTING ANYWHERE. 
          I THINK THAT WE EITHER A DO WE KNOW A NUMBER FOR THAT 15%? HAVE WE. YOU SAID IT'S ABOUT $100,000. OKAY. AND AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT,
THAT, THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY DOLLARS THAT WE COULD THAT THE CITY COULD CONSIDER USING TO CREATE A EMERGENCY TYPE PROGRAM? THAT IS A CATCH ALL. LIKE NO RESTRICTIONS, MEANING IF YOU NEED PROPERTY TAX ASSISTANCE OR
HOA WE NEED A VEHICLE FOR THAT. 
          SO IS OUR GRANT FUNDS IS NOT THE VEHICLE FOR THAT. 
          OR 15% IS REALLY PUBLIC SERVICES WHO WE CAN USE THAT FOR EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE AGAIN WITHIN
THE PARAMETERS OF THE COMP PLAN SIMILAR TO THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM,
BUT WE CANNOT DIRECTLY ASSIST HOA'S. 
          OR INSURANCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WELL,
NO, I'M NOT LOOKING TO ASSESS HOA'S BUT DOES THE COMP PLAN PERMIT US TO ASSIST? AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE A LEVENT QUESTION. 
          DOES THE COMP PLAN PERMIT FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST IN WHAT IS,
I GUESS, HOW DOES A COMP PLAN DEFINE EMERGENCY SO WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT. OBVIOUSLY WE CAN EDIT THE COMP PLAN TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE CDBG
IS A FEDERAL, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS, THEY LIST A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH CDBG
DOLLARS. 
          HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW WITHIN THEIR GUIDELINES. 
          OUR COMP PLAN IS ADOPTING SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIES,
NOT ALL OF THEM. 
          SO WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT RESEARCH AND FIND OUT. 
          CAN IT BE, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD CAN IT BE USED FOR HOHOA PAYMENTS? CAN IT BE USED FOR MINOR RENOVATIONS? CAN IT BE USED FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE? WE CAN DEFINITELY CONFIRM THAT. AND IF THAT'S THE VEHICLE TO USE IT,
WE CAN TRY TO AMEND THE CON PLAN TO TO ALLOW FOR THAT. 
          ALSO, JUST ONE CAVEAT TO PUT OUT WITH FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS,
WE CAN PUT A PRIORITY ON SENIORS, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXCLUDE OTHER PEOPLE FROM PARTICIPATING AS WELL. 
          THAT'S FINE, THAT'S FINE. AND YOU KNOW, WITH THAT,
THEN I WOULD BECAUSE IF THE PUBLIC SERVICES DOLLARS ARE GOVERNED BY OUR FIVE YEAR COMP PLAN OR NOT COMP PLAN, BUT CONSOLIDATED PLAN RATHER. 
          AND IT DOES NOT CURRENTLY PERMIT AND EMERGENCY DOES NOT CURRENTLY INCLUDE SOME OF THE
SERVICES AND CIRCUMSTANCES RATHER THAT 
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I'M DEFINING, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT DIRECTION THAT THE 15%
THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC SERVICES BE USED TO BUILD ON A PROGRAM THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR SENIORS AND WHOEVER
ELSE FOR MATTERS THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY CONSIDERED IN ANY OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. AND IF WE NEED TO GO OUT TO BRING IN A NONPROFIT THAT HAS THE SKILL SET,
THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE GRANT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE DO TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE YOU KNOW,
A PROGRAM SUCH AS THIS. 
          SO COMMISSIONER MAYBE WE CAN FIRST IDENTIFY WHAT THE AVAILABLE OPTIONS ARE FOR,
FOR THOSE STRATEGIES. 
          AND THEN WE BRING THEM TO YOU. AND THEN SO THE COMMISSION CAN ADOPT THOSE STRATEGIES TO
UPDATE THE THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN. 
          AND THEN THAT WOULD BECOME PART OF THE THE CITY'S SERVICES. 
          BUT FIRST LET US IDENTIFY, I BELIEVE AGREED,
UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY CHANGES TO THE COMP PLAN REQUIRE AT LEAST 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO, FOR US TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC. SO NOTHING YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AS WE
DEVELOP OUR OR ADD NEW STRATEGIES, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN DOESN'T
CONSIDER THIS ALREADY. 
          IF OUR PLAN IS THAT NARROW, THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE ROOM FOR,
YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL SERVICES, I'D BE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED. I THINK THAT,
YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF PLAN THAT WE PUT OUT, WHETHER IT'S WHATEVER MASTER PLAN, A PARKS MASTER PLAN, CONSOLIDATED PLAN OR COMP PLAN,
IT SHOULD GIVE CONSIDERATION FOR THINGS THAT COME UP ALONG THE WAY. 
          SO I, I'M, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE DID PREPARE SOMETHING THAT,
YOU KNOW, GIVES US THE VEHICLE NECESSARY TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE LIKE THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW,
SPEND A LOT OF TIME. 
          AND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, I AGREE. LET'S KILL ALL THE EXTRA RED TAPE. 
          A LOT OF OUR APPLICATIONS ARE HARD AS HELL FOR PEOPLE THAT TAKE MONTHS AND MONTHS FOR
PEOPLE TO GET THEM DONE. 
          BUT BY THAT TIME, THEY'VE ALREADY LOST THEIR PROPERTY,
LOST THEIR HOUSE, WHATEVER IT IS LIKE WE NEED TO MAKE IT, WE NEED TO MAKE THINGS A LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THE ASSISTANCE AND THE
SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. 
          AND WE SHOULD BE CREATIVE IN OUR APPROACH. SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO,
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THAT. AND IF THERE ARE DOLLARS AVAILABLE,
WE NEED TO USE THEM. 
          I DON'T THINK WE DUMP ALL OF OUR DOLLARS INTO FIRST TIME HOME BUYER AND MINOR ASSISTANCE
PROGRAMS. BUT I KIND OF WENT ON FOR A BIT HERE, SO I'LL PAUSE AND LET MY COLLEAGUES JUMP IN. 
          COMMISSIONER. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          GOOD JOB. QUESTION 2024. WE SPENT 466 ON RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          HOWEVER, YOU'RE PROJECTING 190 FOR FOR FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN FOR MINOR REPAIRS WE SPENT
170 BUT WE'RE PROJECTING 900. 
          WHY WHY THE DISCREPANCY. IT WAS IT A LOT OF APPLICATIONS FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. OKAY. SO I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. DEFINITELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. 
          COMMISSIONER. 2024, WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 196 APPLICATIONS FOR THE MINOR HOME REPAIR
PROGRAM. 
          SIMILARLY, FIRST TIME HOME BUYER FOR 2020 425 PERIOD RECEIVED 207 APPLICATIONS. 
          SO WHEN I MENTIONED OVERSUBSCRIBED, I MEANT IT. 
          THERE'S A NEED FOR IT AS AN INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM. OKAY. IN TERMS OF YOU'VE SEEN THE
DOLLARS INCREASE WHAT THE DIRECTOR SPOKE TO IN TERMS OF THE NSP FUNDS, THAT'S THE VEHICLE THAT WE, WE INTEND TO USE TO,
TO FUND THESE TWO PROGRAM CATEGORIES FOR UPCOMING PROGRAM YEAR 2627. 
          SO MINOR REPAIRS, YOU SAID YOU GOT 194. HOW MUCH DID YOU GET FOR RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANT? WHAT WAS THE TOTAL. I'M SORRY. WELL, WE SERVED RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANTS. 
          WE DO NOT HAVE THAT APPLICATION PROGRAM OPEN,
BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE DID APPROXIMATELY 104. 
          I'M DOING A MATH QUICKLY HERE. ROUGHLY 135 APPLICANTS. 
          OKAY. AND I SEE THAT MINOR REPAIR IS CDBG. SO IS RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE WHICH COVERS
MORTGAGE RENT AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. 
          SO IS THAT CORRECT? SAY THAT AGAIN. CDBG IS FOR RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          THOSE FUNDS CAME FROM THE CITY. NO, THOSE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE FUNDS CAME FROM ARPA. 
          SO THAT WAS THE ASSISTANCE OKAY. BECAUSE YOU HAVE CDBG. 
          YEAH. BECAUSE NOW THOSE FUNDS ARE TAKING THE FORM OF CDBG NOW. 
          OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED. OKAY. IF IF WE CAN KIND OF MOVE
THOSE AROUND GOING BACK TO THE HOME BUYER PROGRAM, I KNOW SOMEONE THAT, THAT TRIED TO APPLY AND THEY WAS HAVING ISSUES WITH THE,
I THINK IT'S A NONPROFIT THAT WE USE IN POMPANO KIND OF GOING BACK TO BUREAUCRACY. 
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THEY KIND OF GIVE UP THEIR APARTMENT AND THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GET A HOUSE. THEY
WENT THROUGH THE CLOSING PROCESS AND AT THE END WE KIND OF TOLD THEM THEY'RE GOING TO QUALIFY, BUT AT THE END, THE DEAL KIND OF FALLS THROUGH. 
          AND THAT HAPPENS IN REAL ESTATE ALL THE TIME. BUT THERE WAS ISSUES WITH THE COMPANY THAT
THE NONPROFIT THAT WE KIND OF PARTNER WITH IN POMPANO. 
          SO I THINK I SHARED THAT BEFORE. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT AGAIN IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT
STREAMLINING THAT PROCESS IN TERMS OF BUREAUCRACY. 
          ALSO, I AGREE, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, IN TERMS OF RESIDENTS NEEDING ASSISTANCE,
WE SHOULD FIND VEHICLES TO HELP THEM. 
          YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE MY PROGRAM ADMINISTERING TEETH. 
          WE'VE HAVE OVER 200 PEOPLE. I THINK IF YOU WANT ELIZABETH AND NATHANIEL HAS DONE A GOOD
JOB OF ADMINISTERING THAT AND DOING HANDLING APPLICATIONS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. 
          ONE THING I'VE LEARNED IN THAT PROCESS, YOU HAVE TO STREAMLINE APPLICATIONS,
TURN IT AROUND FAST BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN NEED OF, OF, OF THE FUNDS. AND ONE THING WITH THE SENIORS AS WELL,
IN TERMS OF THEIR INCOME, YOU CAN'T EXCEED A CERTAIN THRESHOLD. 
          AND AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU HAVE TO SEND THEM TAX FORMS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. 
          SO THAT WAS A TIDBIT THAT I'VE SEEN ADMINISTER IN THAT PROGRAM,
JUST SHARING WITH YOU GUYS. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT THE HOME BUYER PROGRAM, YOU SAID 207 PEOPLE,
IF WE GO, IF WE REDUCE THE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT WHEN WE GET MORE PEOPLE TO QUALIFY. 
          WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE? YOU SAID THE AVERAGE WAS 30,000. 
          I WAS BALLPARKING THAT SOMEONE CAN CONFIRM, SO THAT'S EASY. 
          207207 APPLIED HOW MUCH QUALIFIED? WE FUNDED 20 OUT OF THOSE YOU FUNDED 20. 
          YES. SO 20 DIVIDED BY 768 WOULD BE. THREE. SO IT'S ABOUT 30 SOMETHING. 
          EACH PERSON GOT A BALLPARK. BALLPARK 30 SOMETHING. 
          OKAY. SO THAT'S ABOUT AVERAGE. NOW THEN WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM UP TO 85. 
          WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM. RIGHT. YEAH. IT JUST DEPENDS ON CERTAIN PEOPLE. 
          SO WHAT IF WE IF WE REDUCE THAT NUMBER THEN IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO TAKE DOWN. 
          YEAH. IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T HELP THAT THAT'S A CEILING. OKAY. THAT'S JUST A CEILING. OKAY. 
          OKAY. AND PUBLIC SERVICE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP. 
          YEP. THOSE ARE JUST MY QUESTIONS. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH, WE RECENTLY RAISED IT BECAUSE WE HAD A 4000 A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. 
          WE RAISED IT TO 60,000. AND THEN BASED ON NEW GUIDELINES FROM HUD THAT JUST CAME OUT LAST
YEAR, IT WENT UP TO THE MAX OF 85,000. BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T GIVE IT TO ALL. 
          AND I KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER WRIGHT IS SAYING ABOUT ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'VE
HAD A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH. 
          PART OF IT ALSO COMES FROM BECAUSE MY OTHER HAT IS WHEN I DEAL WITH CLOSINGS WITH WITH
THIS, SOMETIMES ALL THE INFORMATION ON THE APPLICATION THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY OUR CITY'S FAULT
WITH THE BUREAUCRACY THAT IS REQUIRED. 
          NOT ALL THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE APPLYING FOR THEIR MONEY,
ARE THEY PROVIDING ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED, AND WHEN THEY DON'T APPLY WHAT'S NEEDED AND THE TIME FRAMES THAT THEY NEED TO,
THE ENTITIES THAT ARE REVIEWING THE PAPERWORK ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE TO DO THESE THINGS. 
          IT CAUSES A PROBLEM BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HAD ONE CLOSING THAT LASTED ALMOST SIX MONTHS
TRYING TO GET FUNDS. 
          I FINALLY GOT IT. GOT IT FROM THE COUNTY, GOT IT FROM THE HOUSING PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN WOUND UP HAVING TO TAKE OUT A SILENT THIRD. 
          I'VE MADE THIS COMMENT REGARDING THE 15 YEARS. 
          I DO PERSONALLY THINK THAT BECAUSE MONEY IS FINITE,
AND I SAID THIS WHEN I REPRESENTED MY NONPROFIT, SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO DO AN EQUITY SPLIT. SO WHILE IT MAY SEEM INITIALLY ON THE FRONT THAT
IT SOUNDS CRUEL THAT WE'RE MAKING THEM PAY BACK ANY PART OF IT OR KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES FOR 15 YEARS, THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES ARE GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY,
AND WITHOUT THE FUNDS THAT THEY RECEIVE, THEIR HOME VALUE WOULD NEVER HAVE MADE IT. THEY MAY NOT HAVE RECEIVED THEIR INSURANCE. 
          THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A HOME. THEY MAY NOT HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT. SO THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT. 
          AND WHEN YOU HAVE MONEY TO PAY IT FORWARD, AS IF,
AS YOU'RE DOING WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO MAY SELL BEFORE THE 15, THAT PAYS IT FORWARD, AND WE'RE NOW ABLE TO HELP MORE PEOPLE. AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IS REGENERATE AVENUES TO HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN HELP. 
          AND THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM REALLY WAS A BIG HELP. 
          IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW SPEARHEADED AND WAS GLAD THAT WE HAD. 
          AND WE DO NEED TO GET THAT BACK GOING BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO OWN A PLACE THEY WANT
TO RENT. 
          AND THE MORE AND MORE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE PROVING ARE RENTAL,
WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THAT HELP TO ALSO ALONG THE LINES WITH THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATIONS, BECAUSE THE HOME BUYER PROGRAMS WORK FOR CONDOS,
BUT THEY DON'T MIND A HOME REPAIR. 
          WE STILL HAVE ISSUES BECAUSE IT'S FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES,
BUT THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SCANNING THEM. 
          SO PLEASE SHARE THE SHARE THE NEW STUFF. SO YES,
IT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          HOWEVER HOA OWNERS, CONDO OWNERS ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM. 
          WE REHAB THE INTERIOR, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR WINDOWS AND DOORS AND STUFF. 
          AND SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR HOMEOWNERS. 
          I MET, I WAS AT AN EVENT AND THEY WERE TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY. 
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ONE THING THAT I'D LIKE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WITH YOUR SLIDES,
WOULD YOU PLEASE REDO THE SLIDE WITH THE NAME OF THE PROGRAMS AND SAY WHEN THE AVAILABILITY AND THE OPENING OF THE PROGRAMS ARE? I DO KNOW IT SHIFTS DEPENDING ON THE YEAR OF WHEN OUR LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION. 
          YES. NOTHING'S SAFE WHEN LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION. 
          GOT TO WAIT TILL THAT BUDGET IS ACTUALLY SIGNED. SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT GIVING INFORMATION TO PEOPLE AND THEY GET CONFUSED. 
          AND ALL THEY DO RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE AND SAY,
THERE'S NO MONEY AVAILABLE. AND THEY KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW THAT THEY CAN SIGN UP AND GET AN EMAIL FROM WHEN THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE,
BUT NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO DO IT. 
          PLUS, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MOVE INTO THE CITY WHO MAY NOT BE AS FAMILIAR. 
          I DO THINK THAT OUR APPLICATION PROCESS IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT,
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ONLY ALLOW IT ONLINE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT IT PUSHED THAT WAY TO ALLOW IT ONLINE. 
          I KNOW WE NOW HAVE PEOPLE ASSISTING, BUT THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE ASSISTING THE
PERSON ONLINE, IT STILL DELAYS THEIR APPLICATION, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE FIRST TO QUALIFY BECAUSE
IT'S FIRST IN. 
          RIGHT. YOU DO IT IN YOUR NUMBERS. I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO REWORK OUR PROGRAM AGAIN TO
GET IT BACK TO WHERE WE HAVE HAND DELIVERED APPLICATIONS AND COMPUTER DELIVERED APPLICATIONS. AND I KNOW THAT DRIVES SOME PEOPLE IN THE TECHNOLOGY WORLD
ABSOLUTELY. 
          BONKY. BUT WE'RE NOT IN COVID ANYMORE. THERE'S NO EXCUSE TO NOT HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY FOR
THE PEOPLE WITH THE FLIP PHONES OR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T DO COMPUTERS TO HAVE THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR APPLICATIONS REVIEWED. 
          AND MAYBE YOU SAY, WE'VE GOT ROOM FOR 50 APPLICATIONS,
25 ARE GOING TO BE HARD, 25 ARE GOING TO BE ON COMPUTER, AND YOU MAKE IT EQUITABLE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EQUITABLE RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK AS A CITY, WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO HELP AS MANY AS WE CAN. 
          AND I THINK THAT THIS WHOLE COMMISSION DESIRES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE
ARE ABLE TO PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENTS, LIVE THERE AND BE COMFORTABLE AND NOT BE TAPPED BY THE OUTER EFFECTS OF THE WORLD AROUND
US. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AND IT'S NOT EASY. 
          SO WHILE WE WANT TO MAKE OTHER PROGRAMS FOR THINGS,
WE ALSO NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT PEOPLE ARE ALSO RELYING ON. IT'S A BALANCING ACT JUST TO KIND OF ADD AND PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT YOU JUST
SAID, BECAUSE THINGS ARE EVER EVOLVING AT THE STATE LEVEL,
AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL IS CONSTANTLY NEW RULES AND EVERYTHING. 
          THERE WAS ONE THAT JUST CAME OUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GIVING GRANT FUNDS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE A LEGAL RESIDENT WITHIN THE CITY. SO WE'RE OBVIOUSLY DOING THAT
NOW. 
          BUT JUST TO KIND OF EXPECT THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT COME THAT JUST KIND OF FLY UP OUT OF
NOWHERE SOMETIMES. 
          EXACTLY. AND ACTUALLY, EVEN OUR OWN COMMISSION HAS MADE IT. 
          WHEN WE GIVE MONEY TO ORGANIZATIONS, WE WANT TO SEE THE PAPERWORK. 
          WE WANT TO SEE THE PROOF. RIGHT. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR OUR OWN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO
MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMPLYING. 
          AND THAT'S EXPECTED. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS FREE DOLLARS. 
          AND WE'RE THE STEWARDS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE MONEY. SO I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING A
GREAT JOB. 
          I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE OVER POPULATED. 
          I, AS YOU KNOW, I'M THE CHAIR OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE OF BROWARD COUNTY AND I
SERVE ALSO ON THE PLANNING COUNCIL. 
          I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE PLANNING COUNCIL. AND WE GO THROUGH THIS BATTLE ALL THE TIME WITH
MONEY FOR FUNDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR EQUITABLE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING. 
          AND IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE'S MONEY NOW,
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHARGE BETWEEN ME AND ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF PLAYFUL BANTER, ALL MONEY TO GO FOR THE BUILDING OF THE HOUSING. 
          MY ATTITUDE IS, WELL, WHY ARE WE NOT TAKING 10% OUT OF WHAT WE'RE BUILDING FOR THE HOUSING
TO GIVE IT TO THOSE PEOPLE, TO KEEP THEM IN THE HOUSES? BECAUSE THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN,
THEIR INVESTMENT, THEIR BIGGEST INVESTMENT, THEIR MONEY IS THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO KEEP IT. 
          SO IT'S NICE TO BUILD FOR OTHERS. YES, DEFINITELY. 
          BUT WE SHOULD BE HELPING THOSE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES INSTEAD OF WAITING
TILL THEY GET TO FORECLOSURE, FIGURE OUT A PATHWAY TO KEEP THEM OUT OF FORECLOSURE. 
          SO, CITY MANAGER, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? LUNCH IS HERE. ALMOST. OKAY, I CITY MANAGER YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? NO, NO, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU PUT YOUR GREEN LIGHT ON. 
          OH I'VE GOT COMMISSIONER. DANIEL. I'VE GOT VICE MAYOR. 
          MARTIN, THANK YOU FOR A WELL DONE PRESENTATION. 
          IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED BASED ON WHAT THE RESIDENTS REQUEST. 
          MY ONLY TAKE IS FROM THE ONES THAT ARE. AND I AGREE WITH THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WAS GOING
FORWARD. 
          SO THERE WAS REALLY NO NEED TO PARTICIPATE. THE RESIDENTS IN MY DISTRICT,
A LOT OF THEM, THEY DO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA. 
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AND I'M ALWAYS BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE THEN IT'S IRRELEVANT WHAT PROGRAMS WE HAVE. 
          IF. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CRITERIA ARE FEDERAL,
SINCE IT'S FEDERAL DOLLARS IS BASED ON FEDERAL CONDITIONS. 
          SO THAT BEING SAID, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE OTHER THAN WHAT I CAN GIVE? RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT MONEY IS MORE IT'S NOT BASED ON FEDERAL. 
          WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T MEET THOSE GUIDELINES? I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 80 NOT THE DISCUSSION EARLIER WAS ABOUT 85,000. 
          WELL GUESS WHAT. PROBABLY LIKE TWO PEOPLE EVEN GET THAT THAT GRANT BECAUSE THE CRITERIA
ARE SO STIFF. 
          AND I GET IT. WE DO NEED CRITERIA. BUT IF IT'S NOT MEETING THE NEED OF THE RESIDENTS,
WHAT'S THE PURPOSE? SO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH WAYS TO ASSIST THE RESIDENTS OTHER THAN THIS,
BECAUSE YES, SOME CRITERIA BASED ON THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE GIVEN, YOU HAVE TO MEET THOSE CRITERIA. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO,
BUT THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS GIVEN FROM THE PEOPLE WHO GAVE THE MONEY. BUT WE DO HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO ASSIST RESIDENTS THAT DO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA,
BUT ARE STILL STRUGGLING OR ARE STILL HAVING HARDSHIP. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING FOR,
BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT COME AND I CAN'T SEND THEM SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOWHERE TO SEND THEM. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THIS TOPIC BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE. 
          AND I GET IT. SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD OR WHAT CAN WE DO? SO COMMISSIONER. OBVIOUSLY THE THE NEEDS ARE REAL AND YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS ARE, ARE ARE IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE HERE AND THERE. 
          AND SO THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ADMINISTER THROUGH THOSE FEDERAL,
STATE AND LOCAL DOLLARS, THEY DO HAVE STRICT GUIDELINES IN HOW WELL WE HAVE TO STICK WITHIN THOSE GUIDELINES AND,
AND ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT IN TERMS OF ASSISTANCE TO OUR RESIDENTS IN ANY FORM OR SHAPE IT NEEDS TO BE FORMULATED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. 
          AND SO WITHIN OUR YOU KNOW FISCAL STATUS OR,
OR HEALTH THIS COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH THOSE PROGRAMS THAT,
THAT WE CAN ADMINISTER. 
          SO BASICALLY ANYTHING BEYOND THAT IS BASED ON WHAT THIS COMMISSION IS,
IS BASED ON GENERAL FUND DOLLARS THAT THE CITY COLLECTS. 
          AND, AND THAT HAS ABOUT 10 MILLION HANDS GRABBING IT MANY COMPETING,
MANY COMPETING PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE, FIRE AND EVERYTHING ELSE,
OBVIOUSLY. 
          BUT THAT'S THE JURISDICTION THAT IT LIES. SO IT HAS TO BE DONATIONS WE DISCUSS. 
          SO DONATIONS YOU KNOW WE JUST LOOKED AT THE ACCOUNTING AND SO THE COMMISSION DID A A GREAT
THING ACTUALLY THAT, THAT $10,000 WAS FORWARDED TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES ACCOUNT,
WHICH NOW BROUGHT THE BALANCE UP TO $12,000 FOR, FOR THOSE FOR THAT ASSISTANCE. RIGHT. THAT WAS,
THAT WAS ONE THING. 
          AND I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN DEVELOPERS FUNDING IN THE PAST. 
          I KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE DONATED IT'S TO THAT POINT,
RIGHT. 
          SO DONATIONS GENERAL FUND, WHICH I THINK WE STAY AWAY FROM THAT ONE BECAUSE THERE'S SO
MANY LIKE YOU SAID, HANDS IN THE POT. WHAT ELSE IS THERE? OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW,
AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN THE CITY, THE COMMISSION IN THE PAST USED COMMUNITY BENEFIT DOLLARS WORKING WITH THOSE
DEVELOPERS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES. THOSE DOLLARS COULD BE A PROGRAM TO ASSIST WITH,
WITH THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES AS THEY HAPPEN. 
          OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THAT THERE WILL BE CONTINUOUS FLOW OF THAT BUT AS THEY
HAPPEN THAT COULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION FOR SURE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES TAKING PLACE IN THE
CITY. 
          SO IS THERE LIKE ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT IS NOT MANDATORY TO HAVE LIKE WATER THAT WE
COULD CHARGE FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S WHETHER YOU WANT OR NOT,
LIKE AN EXTRA PRIVILEGE WE COULD CHARGE PEOPLE FOR MAYBE LIKE PARKING PERMITS BECAUSE PARKING IS SOME ISSUES, SOME PLACES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
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YOU MEAN IF THERE ARE ANY PROGRAMS TO ASSIST WITH THOSE OR MEANING IF THERE'S ANYTHING AND
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX, RIGHT. IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE COULD CHARGE FOR TO BRING REVENUE AND NOT SOMETHING PEOPLE
NEED, LIKE AIR OR WATER, RIGHT. BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE MONEY FOR OUR WATER
FACILITIES AS WELL. 
          TRUE. AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE,
FOR THE CITY'S WATER INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S AN ENTERPRISE ACCOUNT,
BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE PARKING, I BELIEVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE PARKING ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE A PARKING PERMIT THAT NEEDS TO BE ISSUED AND CAN
DO WE CHARGE FOR THOSE PARKING DECALS? ABOUT $25, $25. SO IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF 25 AND I THINK THAT GOES INTO GENERAL FUND NOW. OH, SO IT GOES BACK. 
          CORRECT. THE PARKING STRUCTURE AND GETTING MONEY FROM WHEN PEOPLE COME TO PARK IN THE
PARKING STRUCTURE AND WE'D BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT. JUST SAYING. RIGHT. 
          JUST PLAYING RIGHT NOW, GETTING HUNGRY. OKAY. 
          VERY LIMITED RESOURCES. COMMISSIONER. NO, I JUST WANT US TO THINK BEYOND OUR LIMITATIONS
IS WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          YEAH, THAT'S 25. BUT GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO WHAT ELSE IS, IS THERE SO WE CAN ASSIST WITHOUT BEING A BURDEN ON ANY,
ON THE GENERAL FUNDS. 
          AND I THINK PART OF THE CONVERSATION WAS YOU KNOW THE CITY ALSO ASSISTS TO THOSE SOCIAL OR NON-PROFITS LIKE THE AREA AGENCY, LIKE THE THE OTHER ENTITY THAT WE JUST ADDED. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. DARE TO CARRY. AND THOSE ARE GREAT FOR LIKE FOOD INSECURITIES. 
          AND, AND I THINK THEY'RE GOOD DOES MORE THAN THAT TO LIKE WHATEVER. 
          SO, BUT SO THAT'S ONE WAY. BUT WHO'S GOING TO HELP WITH RENT AND MORTGAGE AND FOR BECAUSE
I HOPE NOT THE MARKET WENT BACK UP, BUT I HOPE NEXT YEAR,
TWO YEARS FROM NOW, WE DON'T FIND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR BUYING. 
          THAT'S ALWAYS THE FEAR, UNFORTUNATELY. SO WHAT DO WE DO IF THAT HAPPENS? IF I MEAN, WE'RE PREPARING FOR HURRICANE, BUT WHAT DO WE DO TO PREPARE FOR THAT? HOPE THAT ARPA FUNDS COME BACK. RIGHT. AND, AND YEAH,
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE ONCE WITH THE 2008 CRISIS, AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE WITH THE,
THE PANDEMIC AND, AND EACH TIME IT'S BEEN A DISRUPTION FOR SURE, NOT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT FOR THE CITY ORGANIZATION,
OUR SERVICES AS WELL. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE FISCAL HEALTH OF THE
ORGANIZATION SO WE CAN YOU KNOW, LIVE THROUGH, SURVIVE THROUGH THOSE KINDS OF UPS AND DOWNS OF THE THE ECONOMY. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, FROM, I CAN'T PREDICT HOW IT'S GOING TO TURN OUT. 
          AND SO THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS TO MAINTAIN THE FISCAL HEALTH OF THE ORGANIZATION. 
          SO WE HAVE THE MEANS TO, TO ASSIST THEM. YOU KNOW,
GOD FORBID, IF THAT HAPPENS. 
          AND. HAVE YOU DONE THAT? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'M HUNGRY TOO. SO THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR OUR FOR ALL OF US. 
          YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE CONVERSATIONS. 
          WE, WE, WE WENT OFF ON A TANGENT AND THEN WE CAME BACK AND THEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT
OTHER THINGS. 
          AND I'M STILL TRYING TO LIKE FOCUS ON WHAT YOU WERE,
WHAT THIS PRESENTATION IS ABOUT. 
          SO IT STARTED AS. VICE MAYOR, I CAN CHIME IN HERE. 
          SO IT REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION WAS TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHTS INTO WHAT WE DO
AS A HOUSING DIVISION. 
          OKAY. SO THOSE INCLUDED OUR FIRST TIME HOME BUYER AND THE LIST LAUNDRY LIST OF DIFFERENT
ACTIVITIES. 
          THAT WE, WE ADMINISTER OUT OF THE CDBG HOMEOWNERSHIP FUNDS. 
          AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE MUST,
THAT WE WORK WITH EVERY YEAR TO SECURE THIS FUNDING. 
          OKAY. AND TO THAT POINT BACK IN THE DAY, AS THE MAYOR SAID,
IT WAS 40,000 TO 60,000. 
          THEN IT WENT TO 85,000. I WOULD HAVE BEEN INCLINED TO REDUCE THAT AMOUNT BACK TO 40,000,
EXCEPT THAT NOWADAYS THE COST OF A HOME, ESPECIALLY IN TAMARAC, IT IS SO HIGH THAT THE $85,000 IS NEEDED. 
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RIGHT. SO ON THAT POINT, I WOULDN'T AGREE. BUT THE COMMISSIONER DID MAKE SOME VALID POINTS
ABOUT SOME OTHER STUFF. 
          AND I DIDN'T TAKE NOTES, SO I JUST WANT HER TO GO THROUGH WHAT SHE WAS ASKING FOR SO THAT
I CAN KIND OF ASK YOU GUYS WHAT YOUR PROFESSIONAL ADVICE WOULD, WOULD BE SO IF, IF WE SO,
SO A COUPLE THINGS JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING AN EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION AND I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST KIND OF LIKE THINK THROUGH SOME OF THE
DIFFERENT POINTS. 
          WHAT WOULD BE GIVEN? WE MENTIONED PARROT. PARROT IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT,
A FUNDRAISING MECHANISM FOR PARKS AND RECS. I'M NOT SURE. IS THERE ANY PARROT CAN EVEN GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON LIKE, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING LATELY, JUST SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF BE UPDATED ON WHAT THEY'VE
BEEN UP TO AND LIKE WHAT THEIR FUNDRAISING HAS LOOKED LIKE AND WHAT THE DOLLARS ARE BEING USED FOR. THAT'S JUST SIDEBAR. NO, THEY HAVE NOT. 
          THEY'RE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT. SO WE DON'T FUND THEM AT ALL. 
          NO WE DON'T. OKAY. BUT SO THEY FUNDRAISE FOR US AND WE USE THEIR MONEY TO DO WHAT? WE USE THEIR MONEY TO, TO FUND GRANTS FOR, FOR THOSE SUMMER CAMP FAMILIES FOR,
FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, RECREATION PROGRAMS YOU KNOW KIDS ATTENDING SOME,
SOME OF THOSE EVENTS AND ALSO SOME CAPITAL ITEMS, LIKE I SAID, THE SCOREBOARD THAT, THAT WE GOT FOR THE AQUATIC. 
          OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY GAVE GRANTS FOR SUMMER CAMP. I COMPLETELY A SIDEBAR. 
          MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE US MORE INSIGHT ON THAT. IT'S SEEN A FEW EMAILS ABOUT SUMMER CAMP AND
ASSISTANCE, BUT SURE. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY STUDENTS THEY SPONSOR,
HOW MANY KIDS THEY SPONSOR, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. SO,
SO, SO WHAT'S, WHAT THE, WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME OUT OF THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION WAS THAT WE FIND A WAY TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST SENIORS OUTSIDE OF THE 175 THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE
AVAILABLE DUE TO DONATIONS. I WOULD PREFER THAT THE CITY, SIMILAR TO THE PARROT FOUNDATION,
CONSIDER A SENIOR SERVICES FOUNDATION, AN ARM OF THE CITY THAT RAISES THAT, YOU KNOW THAT'S ABLE TO RAISE SEPARATE AND APART FROM
THE CITY SO THAT IT'S NOT NOT A GENERAL FUND VEHICLE. 
          SINCE WHAT I UNDERSTAND THESE, THERE'S 15% OF THE TOTAL ALLOCATION THAT CAN BE USED FOR
PUBLIC SERVICES, AND IT HAS TO BE ADMINISTERED THROUGH A NONPROFIT. 
          I WOULD PREFER THAT THE CITY ESTABLISH A SENIOR SERVICES FOUNDATION. 
          THIS WAY THEY CAN BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE 15%. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'D BE ABLE TO FUNDRAISE AND BE ABLE TO BRING IN PERHAPS
ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS. 
          MAYBE WE COULD DO SOME ENDOWMENTS WITH SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS,
BUT WHERE THERE IS A POOL OF MONEY THAT IS READILY AVAILABLE FOR SERVICES FOR OUR SENIORS HERE IN TAMARAC, BE IT THEY NEED ASSISTANCE WITH PROPERTY TAX,
HOA, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT FOUNDATION IS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE AT NO COST TO OUR SENIORS. SO, I MEAN,
I KNOW PREVIOUSLY HAD PROFFERED A YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NON AD VALOREM TAXES AND
WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COULD BENEFIT FROM A FOUNDATION THAT,
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT, THAT, THAT SPECIFICALLY IS ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR OUR SENIORS AT NO COST TO OUR
SENIORS. 
          IF $100,000 IS AVAILABLE THROUGH FEDERAL DOLLARS,
THAT'S, THAT'S A DECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          THE FOUNDATION CAN THEN, LIKE I SAY, PARTNER WITH BRING IN,
YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE HCA MAY WANT TO BE A PARTNER. YOU KNOW,
THEY CAN FUNDRAISE AND CREATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST. 
          SO THE COMMISSIONER THAT FOUNDATION WOULD WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT
NONPROFIT, WHICH WOULD COMPETE FOR THE SAME DOLLARS AS THE,
THE MANY, MANY OTHER FOUNDATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN BROWARD COUNTY, INCLUDING UNITED WAY. AND SO THEY WOULD BE OPERATING INDEPENDENTLY IN TERMS OF MANAGING
THEIR FUNDRAISING AND MANAGING THEIR ACTIVITIES. WE COULD DEFINITELY WORK WITH THAT FOUNDATION OR ONE OF THE EXISTING
FOUNDATIONS IN TERMS OF ADMINISTERING OUR PROGRAM. 
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BUT YEAH, BUT LIKE, I MEAN, THIS COULD DO THIS,
THIS FOUNDATION CAN DO FOOD PANTRIES. 
          THERE'S NO LIMIT TO WHAT IT COULD DO. I MEAN,
I FEEL LIKE THE CITY HAS NO CONTROL OVER ITS SERVICES. 
          WE PARTNER WITH A MILLION PEOPLE. AND A LOT OF THE TIME THE COMMISSION HAS NO IDEA WHAT
WE'RE. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAD TO CREATE A WHOLE. THERE WAS A SPECTACLE. 
          AND WE. AND IN ORDER FOR US TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ORGANIZATIONS WERE DOING,
WE. 
          WE LITERALLY TOOK A WHOLE LOT OF HEAT JUST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE
DOING AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SERVICING OUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN AND HAVE CONTROL OVER ITS
SERVICES. 
          AND INSTEAD OF US FUNDING 15 OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT SAYING TO CUT ANYONE. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF IF WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST AND IT'S BEEN PRODUCTIVE
BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, IF IT IS PRODUCTIVE AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT SPECIFICALLY TO SUPPLEMENT THE PARKS
BUDGET, AND WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE WE'RE CAPPED AT 15% ON EMERGENCY SERVICES DOLLARS,
THEN WE NEED TO WE CAN'T KEEP SAYING WHAT WE CAN'T DO. 
          WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY. AND I HEAR THE COMMISSIONER SAYING,
HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO? I'M SAYING THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO. 
          AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SENIOR SERVICES FOUNDATION. IT COULD JUST BE A EMERGENCY
ASSISTANCE FOUNDATION. 
          IT COULD BE ANY KIND OF FOUNDATION THAT WE MANAGE IN-HOUSE,
NOT IN HOUSE RATHER, BUT I MEAN OUR FOUNDATION, A TAMARAC FOUNDATION SIMILAR TO PARROT THAT IS SPECIFIC FOR THIS ISSUE. 
          WHETHER YOU'RE SOMEONE THAT CAPS OUT OF THE AVERAGE OVER THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR YOU ARE
A SENIOR OR WHATEVER, IF THE, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE DOLLARS CAN'T BE LIMITED TO. 
          SO MAYBE THE FOUNDATION IS ESTABLISHED ANYONE THAT MAYBE YOU'RE CAPPING OUT OF THE ARMY. 
          SO BUT THROUGH THE FOUNDATION, YOU WOULD STILL QUALIFY FOR AN EMERGENCY SERVICE. 
          MAYBE YOU LOST YOUR JOB, MAYBE IT'S WHATEVER. 
          MAYBE YOU'RE A SENIOR. BUT I'M SAYING THAT WE OFTENTIMES HAVE QUESTIONS AROUND WHETHER OR
NOT THE DOLLARS ARE BEING USED FOR OUR RESIDENTS, ETC. THIS, I FEEL LIKE, IS A VEHICLE THAT CAN BE USED TO GET TO THE FINAL DESTINATION,
WHICH IS AN EMERGENCY SERVICES PROGRAM THAT'S NOT LIMITED TO ANY PARTICULAR THING. IT'S MANAGED BY OUR FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED
PLAN. 
          AND IF EMERGENCY IS DEFINED IN THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN,
IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO BUT NOT EXCLUDING HOA YOU KNOW, INSURANCE, WHAT PROPERTY TAX, WHATEVER IT IS AT THAT PARTICULAR RESIDENT NEEDS. 
          IT SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TO ME A AND I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T DO THAT. 
          LET US LET US LOOK AT THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK THAT'S REQUIRED TO,
TO ESTABLISH A FOUNDATION AS SUCH. 
          AND THEN THE AVAILABILITY OF THE THE STRATEGIES THAT,
THAT THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE USED EVEN IF IT'S ADMINISTERED BY THAT FOUNDATION. THAT WE MAY WE MAY HELP ESTABLISH,
BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW THE THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK THAT'S REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH THAT, THAT FOUNDATION,
IT NEEDS TO BE A NONPROFIT 501, YOU KNOW, 5OC3 AND, AND AND THEN IT BECOMES AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION AND,
AND HOW WE WORK WITH THEM. AND, AND WHETHER IT'S THROUGH AN MOU OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
LET US LOOK AT THE FRAMEWORK THAT'S REQUIRED TO ESTABLISH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE
COMMISSION. 
          AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. SORRY. YEAH, THIS WAS A BIG DEAL TO ME,
I THINK. 
          YEAH, IT'S A DESIRE THE COMMISSION AS A QUESTION BEFORE US. 
          SO IT NEEDS TO BE FOUND OUT IF THERE'S CONSENSUS TO HAVE THE CITY DETERMINE IF IT SHOULD
ESTABLISH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT'S SEPARATE AND APART ITEM THAN THE CITY IS TO POTENTIALLY WORK WITH FOR FUNDING PROGRAMS TO HELP SENIORS AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO
ARE AT A FINANCIAL RATE THAT THEY JUST DON'T QUALIFY, BUT THEY STILL NEED HELP. THAT'S THE QUESTION AT HAND,
CORRECT? YEAH. THE MANAGER SAID HE'S GOING TO RESEARCH IT. HE JUST SAID IF THERE'S CONSENSUS. 
          SO I NEED TO FIND OUT. I'M NOT SAYING IF THERE'S CONSENSUS,
IF THAT'S THE WAY THE THE COMMISSION IS OPERATING, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE WORKSHOP CONSENSUS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE
GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO SEEING IF WE CAN PREPARE SOMETHING. 
          OKAY. YEAH, I THINK I THINK HE SHOULD LOOK AT THE PARAMETERS AND GIVE THE INFORMATION BACK
TO THE COMMISSION. 
          THE COMMISSION DIDN'T MAKE. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE RESEARCH ON THIS IN IN MY IN
ALSO. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST JUST JUST REMIND YOUR LIST. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE 15% OR 10%,
15% 
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CANNOT BE ADMINISTERED BY THE CITY HAS TO BE ADMINISTERED THROUGH A NONPROFIT NONPROFIT
FOR DIRECT SERVICES TO RESIDENTS. 
          OKAY. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW THE 15% GOES TO PARROT? NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW THE 15% GOES WHERE WE HAVE. 
          OR IS THIS THERE THREE DIFFERENT NONPROFITS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ENGAGING TO PROVIDE
SERVICES DIRECTLY TO THE RESIDENTS? OKAY. AND WHO ARE THE NONPROFITS? TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          WE HAVE MEALS ON WHEELS. WE HAVE A WEIRD WOMAN IN DISTRESS. 
          AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER, THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK THE OTHER ONE IS LIKE OH,
THE JEWISH FUND. 
          BUT I THINK THE OTHER ONE IS JUST TO FUND HOMELESS. 
          HOW IS THESE NONPROFITS SELECTED? THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. 
          THAT'S A QUESTION ON THE QUESTIONS. YOU CAN ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS AFTER YOU FINISH MY
QUESTION. 
          SO SO THE THREE NON WE THERE'S 15% IS ADMINISTERED THROUGH THREE NONPROFITS. 
          SO WITH THE STRUCTURE THAT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON IS ASKING FOR,
WE WOULD BE GETTING RID OF THESE THREE NONPROFITS AND ESSENTIALLY STARTING OUR OWN NONPROFIT. OR IS IT OR IS IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? WELL, WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE 15%. SO WHATEVER THAT 15% ALLOWS US TO DO,
IF IT IF WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT A NEW STRATEGY, WE MAY HAVE TO ELIMINATE SOME EXISTING SERVICES. 
          BUT THAT'S THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK THAT I WAS REFERRING TO. 
          VICE MAYOR. THE 15% TRANSLATES TO HOW MUCH MONEY. 
          NOW, ON AVERAGE, WE RECEIVE 490,000 A YEAR. SO 15% OF THAT,
ROUGHLY 100,000. 
          OKAY. SO SO IS THAT IS THAT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO THROUGH THE WORK OF STARTING A NEW
NONPROFIT? YEAH, BUT I THE MY IDEA IS, IS NOBLE. I'M JUST TRYING TO QUANTIFY THE IDEA. 
          RIGHT. OR MAYBE WE COULD JUST FIND SOME OTHER NONPROFITS AND EXPAND THE LIST THE NONPROFIT
THAT WE WOULD ESTABLISH WOULDN'T BE LIMITED TO THE 15%. SO THAT WOULD BE A REVENUE STREAM. 
          NOW THIS FOUNDATION IS ABLE TO FUNDRAISE AND ESTABLISH ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS. THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD LIMIT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE FOUNDATION PROBABLY CAN
ALREADY DO THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. I ASKED FOR THE PARROT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE RAISING. I'M NOT CLEAR. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY FUNDING THE SOCIAL SERVICES. 
          WHATEVER MONIES THAT ARE COMING IN FROM PARROT ARE NOT CURRENTLY GOING TO SOCIAL SERVICES. 
          SO NO, THEY LIKE I SAID, THEIR FUNDING IS NOT SIGNIFICANT. 
          IT'S, IT'S I BELIEVE SOMEWHERE AROUND 30, 40,000,
IF THAT. 
          YEAH, WHATEVER THEY COULD DO WITH MINOR HELP TO OUR PARK AND REC TEAM AND SUPPORT SUMMER
CAMP AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HELP ALL THE KIDS THAT WANT TO GO TO OUR PROGRAMS. SO THIS IS WHAT IT'S PRIMARILY IS. YEAH. OKAY. 
          SO SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S, IT'S WORTHWHILE LOOKING INTO,
AND I THINK THAT I'D GIVE CONSENSUS FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT. 
          ON BEHALF OF THE, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSIONER AND,
YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED IT, WE NEED IT. 
          IF WE DON'T NEED IT, WE DON'T NEED IT. LET ME ASK THIS THEN. 
          SO THE PARROT FOUNDATION IS COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT. 
          CORRECT. AND SO WE, WE DON'T I WOULD WAIT A SECOND. 
          SO THEY'RE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT. THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND WE DON'T GIVE THEM ANY ANY FUNDS. WE DON'T. 
          AND WE CAN'T GIVE THEM ANY FUNDS OR SUPPORTS SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE INDEPENDENTLY FUNDED. 
          SO HOLD ON ONE SECOND. JUST HOLD ON A SECOND. 
          IS THAT IS THAT THE CASE. WE DO HAVE AN AN MOU BETWEEN THE FOUNDATION AND THE CITY,
WHICH IS WE DON'T GIVE THEM FINANCIAL SUPPORT OR ANY SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE INDEPENDENT. CORRECT. WE DON'T GIVE THEM FINANCIAL SUPPORT. YES OR
NO? NO WE DON'T. OKAY. SO WHERE DO THEY MEET? IN-KIND SERVICES. 
          OKAY. SO AGAIN, YOU YOU GIVE US THE INFORMATION. 
          WE DON'T GIVE YOU MONEY. NO, BUT I JUST ASKED IF WE SUPPORT THEM FINANCIALLY OR ANY
SUPPORT. 
          AND IF THEY'RE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT, YOU SAID YES. 
          SO THEN MY, MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT IS WHERE DO THEY MEET? BUT IT'S LIKE, WHERE DO THEY MEET? IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHERE DO THEY MEET? I UNDERSTAND. WHERE DO THEY MEET FACILITIES? WHERE DO THEY MEET? PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          SO. SO WE GIVE THEM IN-KIND SUPPORT BY GIVING THEM A LOCATION AT,
AT, AT OUR CITY FACILITY FOR THEM TO, TO OPERATE. SO THEY'RE NOT INDEPENDENT. 
          THEY ARE INDEPENDENT. THOSE FACILITIES ARE OPEN TO PUBLIC. 
          YOU KNOW, TO USE. AND SO DO THEY PAY US RENT. 
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PARDON ME. DO THEY PAY US RENT. NO THEY DON'T. 
          OKAY. AND THEY'RE NOT AND SO THE, THE, THE MOU WOULD OUTLINE WHAT OUR SUPPORT IS TO THEM
AND DEFINES OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WITH THE FOUNDATION IN TERMS OF WHAT ASSISTANCE WE MAY
PROVIDE THEM AND WHAT ASSISTANCE THEY WOULD PROVIDE BACK TO US. 
          DO YOU OR ANY STAFF MEMBER KNOW THE CURRENT BOARD OF DIRECTORS? I DON'T I'M SURE WE HAVE ANY OF THE STAFF MEMBERS HERE WOULD KNOW WHO THE BOARD OF
DIRECTORS ARE ARE CURRENTLY. 
          MELISSA YOU WOULD KNOW SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE FOUNDATION ANNUALLY ARE NOW GOING TO TRY
TO GO. 
          AND IT'S REALLY IRRELEVANT BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE ONE OF THE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD. MAYOR. 
          IF YOU DON'T STOP YOUR POLITICAL SHENANIGANS. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON MELISSA PATRON, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. 
          SO THE PARROT FOUNDATION JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND,
SINCE I DON'T WANT BACKGROUND, I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE. 
          OKAY. TRY TO GO FROM MEMORY ABOUT WILLIE JOHNSON. 
          CAROL, OUR LAST NAME IS WILLIE JOHNSON. I'LL BRING IT UP IN A SECOND. 
          AND CAROL WHO? CAROL FROM GRATEFUL THREAD. I CAN'T REMEMBER THEIR LAST NAMES. 
          HOLD ON A SECOND. I GOT IT RIGHT HERE. OKAY,
SO WE HAVE WILLIE JOHNSON, CAROL. 
          CRELLIN, WAYNE. LINTON. IRVING. GREENBERG. NATASHA. 
          BRENTON. WAYNE. WAYNE. LINTON. LINTON. OKAY. IS THAT THE SAME LINTON FROM FROM KIWANIS,
FROM KIWANIS? YES. OKAY. SO AFTER WAYNE, YOU SAID WHO? IRVING. 
          GREENBERG. IRVING. IRVING. IRVING. GREENBERG. 
          NATASHA. BRITTON. NATASHA. BRITTON. THAT. SAME. 
          NATASHA. FROM DISTRICT FOUR. OKAY. WHO ELSE? HERBERT. 
          DAILY. HERBERT. DAILY. HERBERT. HE ATTENDS THE MEETINGS. 
          YES. HE'S STRONG. JANE. JANE GARADA AND ALVIN VILLALOBOS. AND WHO? ALVIN VILLALOBOS. ALVIN VILLALOBOS. 
          HE DOESN'T MAKE TROUBLE OVER THERE. HE HASN'T REALLY ATTENDED MANY MEETINGS. 
          OH. HE DOESN'T. SO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE CRITERIA TO GET SOMEBODY OFF THE BOARD IF THEY DON'T
ATTEND MEETINGS? THEY HAVE A VOTE. SO THERE'S CERTAIN CRITERIA. 
          I GUESS IF THEY DON'T ATTEND THREE OR MORE MEETINGS,
THEN THEY VOTE TO SEE STAY ON THE BOARD. 
          INTERESTING. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON,
YOU HAD ONE MORE ITEM YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO BRING UP. 
          YEAH. BUT I DID. I THINK I DID HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION,
MELISSA, ON THAT, ON THAT REAL QUICK. 
          IS THIS ANOTHER ONE OF THESE BOARDS WHERE WE KIND OF JUST HAVE AN OPEN END ON HOW MANY
PEOPLE CAN SERVE? IS, IS. MELISSA. MELISSA. THROUGH THE MANAGER,
MELISSA. 
          WHO APPOINTS THESE BOARD MEMBERS, IS THIS ARE THESE BOARD MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE
COMMISSION? IT'S AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION. SO THEY THEY, THEY DO THEIR OWN SELECTIONS. OKAY. SO, SO OKAY,
IT'S AN INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT FOUNDATION. 
          SO THEY, THEY MANAGE THEIR OWN AFFAIRS. OKAY. 
          BUT I GUESS I WOULD, I, I'M INTERESTED, BUT EARLIER SOMEONE SAID THAT THE ORGANIZATION
FUND, IT'S IT'S THE CITY'S. FUNDRAISING MECHANISM. THEY WERE FOUNDED TO HELP CITY WITH PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES,
FUNDRAISING FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES. 
          BUT AND WE DEFINITELY ASSISTED THEM WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE THE FOUNDATION. 
          THE CITY HAD A MUCH LARGER ROLE IN THE BEGINNING. 
          AND THEN WE CAME TO A POINT THAT, THAT YOU KNOW,
WE SEPARATED THE THE, THE BOUNDARIES A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THAT MOU BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE FOUNDATION. 
          SO THEY ARE MUCH MORE INDEPENDENT OR TOTALLY INDEPENDENT THAN,
THAN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED. 
          OKAY. DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN WHAT THE FUNDRAISING HAS LOOKED LIKE
OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. 
          I'M INTERESTED IN THE EFFICIENCY AND HOW EFFECTIVE THEY ARE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. AND I'D ALSO BE INTERESTED IN WHAT THE MOU SAYS AND WHAT,
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING. 
          SURE. WE CAN DEFINITELY SHARE THE MOU WHICH OUTLINES THE,
THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE THE ASSISTANCE GIVEN BACK AND FORTH FROM THE CITY. 
          [02:30:05]
SO WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE THAT. YEAH. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST, AND I, AND I ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW IS SERVICES. 
          AND IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH AND WE'RE SAYING
THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHING NEW DOESN'T MAKE SENSE,
BUT WE HAVE OLD, I NEED TO KNOW, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? RIGHT? WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT LIKE,
WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE IN OUR CITY? WHAT IS IT? IS IT EFFECTIVE? DOES IT STILL WORK? IS IT MEETING THE NEED? WHAT'S ITS PURPOSE, ETC.? THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT TO ME AS WE,
YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONTINUE TO EXPLORE WHETHER OR NOT A NEW FOUNDATION TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES. THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE AND WE DESPERATELY NEED. 
          AND THE ONLY VEHICLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IS THROUGH A NONPROFIT. 
          AND IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THE CURRENT NONPROFIT THAT WE HAVE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR
CHARITABLE PURPOSES, CHARITABLE PURPOSES, DOESN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          I HEARD LIKE 12 NAMES CALLED OFF. BUT IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE AND WE CAN'T MEET
NEEDS, IS IT EVEN DOING WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO? IS IT RIGHT? THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF LIKE LOOK AT THAT AS WE HAVE WITH EVERY
OTHER ORGANIZATION SO FAR. 
          WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, DOES IT STILL MAKE SENSE FOR WHAT WE HAVE TODAY? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ESTABLISH COMMISSIONER THAT,
THAT ONCE THE FOUNDATION IS ESTABLISHED AND, AND IT'S NOT, IT STOPS BEING OURS. IT'S NOT OURS. 
          IT'S A TOTALLY INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION THAT WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH. 
          BUT THEY'RE NOT OURS TO, TO MANAGE OR TO YOU KNOW,
SO IF IT'S NOT OURS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MANDATES AND THEY'RE NOT OUR BECAUSE THE MAYOR SAID THAT THEY ARE FUNDRAISING. THEY WERE PUBLISHED. 
          SO IF THE INTENT WAS THAT. AND THAT'S NO LONGER. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE, YEAH, SO THEY THEY STILL EXIST. 
          YOU KNOW, WITH THE SAME NAME AND PURPOSE RAISING FUNDS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION
ACTIVITIES, BUT THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE CITY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THEIR BOARD,
THEIR SELECTION PROCESS OR THEIR GOVERNANCE. 
          YOU KNOW, FOR THAT MATTER, SO THEY'RE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION THAT WE HAVE A
RELATIONSHIP WITH. 
          AND THEY WERE FOUNDED TO, TO RAISE FUNDS AND THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO. 
          THEIR MAIN PURPOSE OF EXISTENCE IS TO RAISE FUNDS FOR TAMARAC PARKS AND RECREATION
ACTIVITIES. 
          AND AT THE SAME TOKEN, IF THEY WANT TO FOLD SHOP TOMORROW,
THEY DON'T NEED OUR PERMISSION. THEY CAN CLOSE IT UP. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, SO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DOESN'T RELY ON THEM FOR ANYTHING. 
          NO, WE DON'T RELY ON THEM. WE MEET WITH THEM. 
          LIKE TODAY. WE HAVE A 4 P.M. MEETING, SO WE'RE THERE AS LIAISONS JUST TO PROVIDE THEM
WITH, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED SOMETHING FIXED IN THE PARK,
LIKE THEY'VE DONATED MONEY TO FIX A CHILD'S SWING, YOU KNOW, THE MOMMY AND ME SWING THAT BROKE. SO THEY DONATED THE MONEY TO FIX THAT. 
          THEY DONATED THE MONEY TO GET THE COMMUNICATION BOARD THAT WE HAVE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
SO THEY DONATED THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WHAT WE NEED. 
          BUT THEY ALSO DO FOR SOCIAL SERVICES. EVERY YEAR,
THEY PROVIDE $1,500 TO SOCIAL SERVICE TO HELP SOCIAL SERVICE SUPERVISOR PROVIDE MEALS FOR THANKSGIVING AND THE HOLIDAYS. OKAY. SO NOTHING IN THE MOU ENTITLES THEIR FUNDRAISING TO THE CITY. NO. 
          THE MOU WAS WAS WAS MAINLY ESTABLISHED TO CLEAR THE,
THE THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN OUR, OUR STAFF INVOLVEMENT IN THEIR AFFAIRS. AND WELL,
IT WAS, IT WAS MAINLY FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A TIME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FOUNDATION, OUR STAFF AND CITY SERVICES, WHICH WAS THEY WERE MUCH MORE INVOLVED IN THEIR
FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES. 
          AND WE HAD TO SEPARATE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE AN INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATION. 
          AND SO IN ESSENCE, THEY COULD RAISE $50,000,
GIVE US 5500 FOR SOCIAL SERVICES AND KEEP THE REMAINING 485 FOR WHATEVER WITHIN THEIR ESTABLISHED FRAMEWORK. CORRECT. SO WHAT IS THE AGAIN,
EVERY FOUNDATION HAS A MISSION. 
          AND IF THE MISSION IS NOT TO IMMEDIATELY YOU KNOW,
I DON'T KNOW, I JUST THERE'S SOME, IT SEEMS A LITTLE MURKY. 
          YEAH. NO, I READ IT ONLINE, I MEAN, AND I SAW IT ON THE THING,
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, IF ORIGINALLY WE LOOKED AT THIS AS A FUNDRAISING MECHANISM TO SUPPORT THE PARKS
DEPARTMENT. 
          AND YOU'RE SAYING THEY COULD FEASIBLY RAISE $50,000 AND WE NEVER SEE THE CITY,
NEVER SEES ANY OF IT. 
          THERE SEEMS TO BE I DON'T KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING THERE THAT JUST DOESN'T
MAKE SENSE TO ME. WELL, 
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IT'S LIKE OUR RELATIONSHIP. I GET IT THAT THEY'RE INDEPENDENT. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHAT INDEPENDENT MEANS. I GET, I GET THAT 1,000%,
BUT I'M SAYING THAT IF, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THE MOU BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING,
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE SUPPORTED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE OF THE
FOUNDATION FOR SOLE PURPOSE OF FUNDRAISING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. WE WERE WE WERE INVOLVED AND THEY ARE FUNDRAISING,
BUT WE'RE LIMITED TO FIXING A SWING AND MAYBE $1,500 TO A SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW. SO I WOULD I'D BE INTERESTED TO UNDERSTAND BETTER,
YOU KNOW, WHAT THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP IS. 
          THEY, YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, AND, AND ULTIMATELY WHY ANYONE IS EVEN INTERESTED IN BEING WHAT
ARE THEY DOING? WHAT ELSE DO THEY DO? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I,
I, I HAVE QUESTIONS IT DOESN'T MAKE, IT'S NOT MAKING 100% SENSE TO ME. 
          SO I THINK IF WE CAN BE UPDATED ON, YOU KNOW,
WHERE WE ARE TODAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. 
          THERE'S BEEN SOME DEVIATIONS AND SOME ADJUSTMENTS. 
          AND I THINK THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT IF EVERYONE HERE HAS QUESTIONS AND OR MAYBE IS NOT
ENTIRELY CLEAR, I THINK WE SHOULD BE MAYBE THERE IS SOME SPACE FOR SOME SOME UPDATE IN A BRIEFING ON
WHAT'S WHAT THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP IS AND LOOKS LIKE AS IT PERTAINS TO PARROT. BUT THAT WASN'T EVEN MY QUESTION. 
          THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION I HAD WAS ON THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          YOU SAID HOA. DOES THAT MEAN THAT SOMEONE HAS TO HAVE AN HOA IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE
TO GET THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE MONEY? NO, I WAS REFERRING TO, I THINK YOU MENTIONED USING,
GRANT FUNDS TO ASSIST WITH THOSE HOA FEES AND PARTICULARLY WHAT I'M. 
          YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT WE CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR THAT. NO,
I'M SAYING ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES. RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE, THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM IT SAYS SHOULD HAVE AN HOA, SOMETHING ABOUT HOA. SO IT'S REALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP
PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT THOSE FUNDS, THOSE LOCAL RESOURCES GOES TOWARDS REGISTERED HOA SOOY REGISTERED AS
NON-PROFITS. 
          THAT'S THAT'S THE PROGRAM TO FUND HOA'S. NO NO NO NO. 
          HOLD ON. I THINK WE'RE I'VE BEEN TOLD BEFORE,
OH, WELL, THIS PERSON CAN'T GET MONEY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE AN HOA. 
          THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. BUT BUT SIMONE, I WAS UNDER,
UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE ALSO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM THAT, THAT PROVIDES GRANTS AT A LOWER LEVEL TO TO INDIVIDUALS AND WASN'T THE NOT PROVIDING
GRANTS WAS FOR THE WALL PROGRAM BECAUSE THE WALL PROGRAM WAS BEING GIVEN THE WALLS BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE COMMUNITIES NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CLEAN IT,
WHICH WAS THE REASON WHY THE WALL PROGRAM WAS CREATED PRIMARILY FIRST TO HAVE ASSOCIATIONS, WHICH HAS SINCE THEN BEEN CHANGED TO ALLOW IT. 
          WHEN THE COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE AN HOA CAN TRY TO PARTICIPATE. 
          BUT IT WAS THAT WAS WHERE A LOT OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR HOA TO RECEIVE MONEY FOR THOSE KIND
OF BIG PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE THEM TAKING CARE OF IT AFTER WE PUT IT IN. 
          I, I HATE VACCINES, NOT HERE, BUT THERE'S LIKE FIVE,
I WANT TO SAY MAYBE $5,000. 
          YEAH, THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM. SO WHAT THAT IS,
IT'S A MATCHING GRANT OF UP TO $4,999. 
          SO AN HOA CAN GET A WALL, A SIGN, LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS,
PAVING. 
          AND EACH DISTRICT ADVERTISES THAT. AND WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF APPLICATIONS. 
          SO WE HAD $50,000. AND I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO FUND 1313 DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS FROM EACH
DISTRICT, FROM EACH HOA. SO THEY'LL SUBMIT A PROJECT AND THEN WE CAN FUND UP TO 4000. 
          WHY CAN'T YOU. WHY COULDN'T YOU FUND ALL OF. WHAT WAS THE REASON? IS THERE NOT ENOUGH
MONEY TO FUND ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS OR. 
          IT WAS MADE. SO IT'S KIND OF EVENLY DISPERSED. 
          SO WE KIND OF LOOK AT IT AS WE HAVE ALL FOUR DISTRICTS,
AND THEN WE CONSIDER COMMUNITY WIDE. 
          SO WE TRY TO SEE HOW MUCH APPLICATION SUBMISSIONS. 
          SO I THINK IN THIS PAST YEAR SOME DISTRICTS HAD MORE APPLICATIONS THAN OTHERS. 
          SO WE WERE ABLE TO FUND 100% OF ONE DISTRICT THAT HAD LIKE SAY 1 OR 2,
THREE APPLICATIONS. 
          WHEREAS OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAD LIKE TEN, WE,
WE HAVE A COMMITTEE. 
          AND THEN WE FIND OUT WE HAVE A SCORING SHEET AND WE RANK THEM,
AND THEN WE FUND WHICH ONES THAT WOULD PRIORITIZE. 
          AND IS THAT A THING? IS THAT A CITY PROGRAM OR IS THAT A FEDERAL GUIDELINE? CITY, CITY GENERAL FUND. WHAT ABOUT COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE AN HOA? SO IF YOU'RE A COMMUNITY AND YOU WANT TO DO A REPAIR AND YOU DON'T HAVE AN HOA,
THE CITY IS SAYING, HEY, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HELP YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE HOA. IT'S CORRECT. AND IT'S
NOT DIRECTLY TOWARDS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR CONDOS. 
          IT'S FOR COMMON PLACES. IT'S LIKE FOR COMMON AREAS. 
          IT'S NOT DIRECTLY FOR RESIDENTS. SO THAT UNDERSTOOD. 
          YEAH. YEAH. BUT I'M SAYING BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THE RULE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN
LIKE THESE $5,000 ARE AVAILABLE ONLY IF YOU HAVE AN HOA. 
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CORRECT? I DISAGREE 1,000%. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITY THAT DON'T HAVE
HOAS. 
          SO IF THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IF THERE'S A NEED,
THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED BY OUR OWN RULES IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. 
          IT KIND OF GOES INTO THAT KIND OF WEIRD NUANCE. 
          IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD, I FORGET THE NAME. 
          IT'S NOT FEDERAL, STATE OR CITY COMMISSION RULE. 
          IT'S A CITY RULE. BUT OKAY, SO THE POLICY MAKERS CAN CHANGE THAT. 
          CORRECT? OKAY. YEAH. THE REASON FOR THAT SPECIFIC CARVE OUT WAS TO HELP ASSOCIATIONS WHERE
THIS COMMON AREA, BECAUSE NOT WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE COMMON AREAS. 
          SO IF YOU'RE A PERSON THAT NEEDS HELP ON YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU DON'T HAVE AN ASSOCIATION
WITH WHERE THE DIFFERENCE LIES, YOU DON'T HAVE A COMMON AREA THAT YOU MAINTAIN. 
          PLUS THERE'S NO ENTITY TO GIVE THE FUNDS TO. AND I FORGET THE NAME OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE JUST HAD THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE AN HOA,
AND THEY HAD THE POOL AND THE WALL THAT KIND OF HAD THAT ISSUE. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE A NECESSARILY AN ENTITY TO GIVE FUNDS TO IF THEY WERE TO APPLY FOR IT. 
          SO WE COULD TREAT IT LIKE ANY OTHER GRANT. I MEAN,
THE CITY CONTRACTS AND ON YOUR MINOR HOME PROGRAM, WE MANAGE THE CONTRACTORS IN-HOUSE, SO THAT COULD BE MANAGED IN-HOUSE. 
          IT WOULD BE UP TO THE CITY. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS THAT'S YOU KNOW,
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A REASON FOR US TO BE ABLE TO EXCLUDE ANY PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. 
          WHILE, YES, MAJORITY OF OUR COMMUNITIES DO HAVE HOMES. 
          I THINK IT'S PRUDENT THAT WE CONSIDER COMMUNITIES WHO DON'T. 
          AND IF THE CITY'S PRIORITY FROM, YOU KNOW, A SLUM AND BLIGHT PERSPECTIVE IS TO BE ABLE TO
MITIGATE THOSE ISSUES, WE NEED TO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT THAT CAN MEET ALL NEEDS. 
          I DON'T THINK IF YOU KNOW, SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW,
THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I MEAN, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MANAGER IS LOOKING AT,
YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER VEHICLE WE COULD USE FROM A 501 C THREE STANDPOINT TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER FUNDS AVAILABLE THROUGH PUBLIC SERVICES,
I WOULD ASK THE COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S BINDING US TO THAT IF THAT'S IN THE CODE OR WHAT. 
          BUT I WOULD ASK THAT WE CONSIDER A PROGRAM THAT THAT DOES NOT EXCLUDE COMMUNITIES THAT DO
NOT HAVE AN HOA. IF THERE IS A COMMON SPACE IN A COMMUNITY. 
          WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO USE INITIATIVE FUNDS OR YOU KNOW,
WHAT HAVE YOU TO BE ABLE TO. 
          FIX THOSE MATTERS. BUT THOSE COMMUNITIES OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO APPLY AND BE ABLE TO RECEIVE
SERVICES AND SUPPORT FROM THE CITY JUST LIKE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY SHOULD. 
          AND WE INTERNALLY CAN LOOK AT HOW WE, YOU KNOW,
HOW WE MANAGE THAT PROGRAM, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW WE MANAGE THE PROGRAM AND MAKING A PROGRAM AVAILABLE,
I THINK ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER THAT AS AS, AS, AS HOW MUCH MONEY RIGHT NOW IS IN THAT PROGRAM,
THAT ONE PROGRAM. 
          YEAH, IT'S 50 ALLOCATED EACH YEAR. WE'VE ENCUMBERED THE FIRST THIS,
THIS ANNUAL YEAR, AND THEN THE NEXT UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR WOULD HAVE ANOTHER FUNDING. 
          AND I DON'T THINK $5,000 IS ENOUGH FOR ANY COMMUNITY. 
          IF A COMMUNITY IS TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING IN THEIR COMMON AREA. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY FIX WITH $5,000 BESIDES MAYBE DOING SOME LANDSCAPING
PROJECT. 
          BUT ANYTHING THAT THESE COMMUNITIES NEED, WHETHER THEY HAVE AN HOA OR NOT,
IS GOING TO EXCEED $5,000. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO RAISE THAT NUMBER A BIT. 
          AND BECAUSE THESE ARE, THIS IS A, THIS IS IT'S,
I MEAN, THE MONEYS ARE AVAILABLE. 
          IT'S A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT WHAT PROGRAMS WE NEED CURRENTLY. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER RAISING THAT DOLLAR
VALUE. 
          AND ALSO YOU KNOW OPENING THE PROGRAM TO NOT EXCLUDING THOSE WITH HOA,
BUT ALSO NOT EXCLUDING THOSE WITHOUT. SO THAT WOULD BE GENERAL FUND. CORRECT. 
          AND, AND THE DIFFICULTY WITH THE YOU KNOW COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE A AN HOA SINCE WE
DON'T HAVE AN ENTITY TO DEAL WITH, THEN IT'S, IT WOULD BE ON US TO TAKE THE ACTION AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITHOUT
HAVING ANY CONSULTATION WITH. 
          I MEAN, WE DO THAT SIMILARLY WITH THE WALLS THOUGH. 
          WE GO OUT AND WE DO EASEMENTS. I THINK THAT THE COMMISSION CAN SET A POLICY THAT IT'S 50%. 
          MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING IF THE IF THE COMMUNITY NEEDS A REPAIR AND THEY APPLY OR SOMEONE
APPLIES. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. 
          WE CREATE THE WE CAN CREATE THE POLICY, WHATEVER THAT IS. 
          IF IT'S IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, BY 51% OF, YOU KNOW,
PETITION OF THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE THE SAME THING WITH THE PARKING PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE THE SAME THING WITH THE WALL. SO IF WE DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE YOU KNOW,
AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITY IN ITS TOTALITY HAS WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE 
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ABLE TO ADDRESS ISSUES. THEN WE SET THE POLICY HERE. 
          AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT CURRENTLY, THEN WE, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO CREATE THAT. 
          SO I'M GOING TO JUST DO CONSENSUS AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE ON FROM
THIS. 
          WE'VE BEEN ON THIS ITEM SINCE 1103. DO YOU AGREE? I MEAN, I THINK WE DO NEED A BREAK. I KNOW WE NEED A BREAK. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET THERE. SO. SO WHAT AM I AGREEING TO? DO YOU AGREE THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
THE HOA NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO HAVE MORE MONEY AND OPEN IT UP TO. SO I'M I'M TOTALLY NOT IN AGREEMENT TO OPEN IT UP TO NON HOA. 
          I'M SORRY. THIS IS THIS IS WHY I KNOW THIS IS WHY I'M IN HOA,
RIGHT? I PAY MY DUES. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST ONE RANDOM PERSON. 
          AND WE HAVE MEETINGS AND WE HAVE AGREEMENTS AND DISAGREEMENTS. 
          NOT ALL HOA ARE GOOD, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. I'M UPSET WITH MINE HALF THE TIME. 
          BUT I APPRECIATE THE WORK THEY DO. SO I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE CERTAIN COMMUNITIES TO GET
AN HOA. 
          BUT WHAT I FOUND IS SOME OF THEM DON'T WANT AN HOA. 
          THEY DON'T WANT THAT RESPONSIBILITY. THEY DON'T WANT THAT ACCOUNTABILITY. SO I DON'T THINK
IT'S A CITY RESPONSIBILITY NOW TO GO IN AND DO WHAT THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO DO, RIGHT? WHAT THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO DO. 
          SO THAT PART I'M NOT TO I'M NOT REALLY FOR I WOULD HAVE TO GET MORE INFORMATION BECAUSE TO
ME, NO, YOU NEED TO DO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE AT LEAST TAKE THAT FIRST STEP. 
          BECAUSE HAVING AN HOA DOES ALLEVIATE CERTAIN OF THESE CERTAIN ISSUES. 
          MORE MONEY. YES, ABSOLUTELY. BUT DOES IT COME WITH A CRITERIA. 
          AND ARE WE GOING TO TAKE OUT MORE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS FOR IT OR IS THERE
SOMETHING ELSE WE COULD. 
          HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD. NO. SO SO THAT THAT PART. 
          BUT I DO LOVE THE IDEA. AND I DO THINK THERE IS A NEED TO HELP MY HOA GOT THE 5001 TIME. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. IT HELPED WITH OUR SIGN. IT CANNOT PAY THE BILL. 
          YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. BUT IT HELPED WITH THE SIGN. 
          OUR NEW SIGNAGE AND IT HELPS WITH LANDSCAPING. 
          SO YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S BASICALLY IT. BUT WHEN YOU PURCHASE A HOUSE,
YOU TOOK ON SOME RESPONSIBILITY. 
          AND IF YOU ARE PART OF A HOA, WHERE'S THE HOA MONEY? LIKE THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A LOT GOING INTO IT IF THE HOA HAS ITS OWN FUNDS. 
          ARE THEY UTILIZING THEIR FUNDS TO FIX THE PROBLEM? WE SHOULDN'T JUST COME IN AND FIX THAT. WE NEED TO FIX EVERYBODY'S PROBLEM. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I, I WANT TO SUPPORT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. 
          I THINK SHE'S DOING AN AWESOME JOB. SO ANYWAY,
I CAN SUPPORT, I WILL. 
          HOWEVER, THAT'S JUST ONE OF MY PET PEEVES. GO GET AN HOA FIRST AT MINIMUM. 
          THANK YOU. SO YOU'RE NOT FOR IT, COMMISSIONER. 
          RIGHT. I THINK IT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA. I HAVE A COMMUNITY PARADISE ESTATE WHERE I PAINTED
THE WALL OUT OF MY INITIATIVE FUNDS. 
          I THINK THE STATE HAS MADE IT EASIER TO DISMANTLE HOAS. 
          SO PERHAPS WE'RE GOING TO SEE A PUSH TOWARDS LESS HOAS. 
          I THINK FIVE GRAND ALLOWS US TO SPREAD IT AROUND. 
          IT ALLOWS OTHER COMMUNITIES TO BENEFIT. IN TERMS OF THE COMMON AREA,
THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO I'M OPEN FOR MORE INFORMATION. IF YOU GUYS CAN PUT MORE INFORMATION TO SEE HOW WE CAN
ADMINISTER IT WITH NON HOA, BECAUSE I DO HAVE THOSE NON COMMUNITIES IN MY DISTRICT AND I HAVE USED INITIATIVE FUNDS TO
DO CERTAIN PROJECTS. 
          SO I'M HOPING FOR MORE INFORMATION NOW. I CAN SUPPORT IT ONCE WE GET MORE INFORMATION. SO
I'LL SUPPORT ONCE THERE'S MORE INFORMATION AND EXACTLY HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTER IT, HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK, THAT TYPE OF STUFF. AND MADAM MAYOR WE NEED,
WE NEED TO ALSO FIGURE OUT SINCE THESE ARE MATCHING FUNDS, YOU KNOW HOW TO MATCH OR CHANGE THAT CRITERIA AS WELL. 
          EXACTLY. THERE'S A REASON FOR THE, THIS PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED,
IT WAS CREATED TO FILL A HOLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BLOW UP THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. 
          IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO CREATE A DIFFERENT MECHANISM TO HELP THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE COMMON
AREAS, WHICH THE WALL IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. COMMISSIONER. RIGHT? THAT WALL
IS PERSONAL TO THAT HOMEOWNER. 
          IT IS NOT A COMMON AREA. THOSE HOMEOWNERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE,
AS COMMISSIONER DANIEL HAS SAID, PEOPLE HAVE SELECTED TO NOT LIVE IN AN HOA COMMUNITY,
THAT THEY HAVE COMMON AREAS. 
          SO EVERYTHING. SO IT COMES BACK TO WHAT'S THAT MONEY GOING TO. 
          THAT MONEY COULD ALSO BE PART OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR NOT. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT, SORRY, THE MINOR HOME REPAIR. 
          THOSE ITEMS WOULD FALL UNDER MINOR HOME REPAIR BECAUSE IT'S ONE HOMEOWNER REPAIRING THEIR
INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY IN A NON HOA. 
          THE SITUATION WITH THE SPRING LAKE IS A VERY RARE SITUATION. 
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IT'S THE FIRST ONE WE'VE HAD IN THE CITY IN A REALLY LONG TIME,
WHERE THERE HAS BEEN SUCH AN ISSUE WHERE THE ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN DISMANTLED, AND THE COMMUNITY THAT CURRENTLY LIVES THERE AFTER THESE YEARS DOES NOT WANT TO PUT IT
BACK TOGETHER. 
          SO THERE IS A REASON FOR THE CITY WORKING TO STEP IN WITH IT. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD BE DISMANTLING THE HOACOA PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE WITH MATCHING
GRANT FUNDS FOR A TUNE OF $50,000 THAT SO MANY OF OUR OTHER ASSOCIATIONS ARE APPLYING TO. 
          WE HAVE 13. THERE'S MORE COMING. THEY NEED THE HELP. 
          AND SO IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT PROGRAM YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT,
I'M FOR IT, BUT I'M NOT FOR JUST DISMANTLING OR INVADING THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM TO MAKE IT FIT A ONE SIZE FIT ALL BECAUSE NOT ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS CAN FIT ONE SIZE FITS ALL FITS
ALL. 
          PLUS FINANCIALLY, WE JUST CARVED, WHAT, $18.5 MILLION OUT OF OUR BUDGET? WHERE ARE WE COMING UP WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS? AS I SAID EARLIER IN THE START OF THIS
ITEM, WE HAVE A VERY BIG HEARTED COMMUNITY. OUR COMMISSION WANTS TO HELP EVERYBODY AND JUST WE
CANNOT ALWAYS DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          BUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YES. WILL WE ALWAYS GET TO. 
          YES. NOT SURE. SO AND I'M SORRY BECAUSE I KNOW WE GOT TO GO AND I DON'T BECAUSE I SENSE
MISS PATTERSON I WAS GOING TO ASK PASSION I, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I'M SORRY. HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW MR. PATTERSON. 
          VICE MAYOR BOLTON. CAN WE DO IT ANOTHER WAY? MAYBE THAT'S WHY CONSENSUS TO FIGURE OUT A
PROGRAM IS ONE THING VERSUS. 
          I CAN'T SUPPORT SOME CONSENSUS ON THAT. TO FIGURE OUT A CONSENSUS ON FIGURING OUT THE
PROGRAM VERSUS DISMANTLING THE CURRENT PROGRAM WE HAVE IS WHERE I WOULD. 
          OR JUST NO. BUT IF YOU IF YOU ADD IN NON, JUST MAKE IT GENERAL. 
          MAYOR JUST JUST GO BACK TO ASK FOR FOR SOME IDEAS AND COME BACK LIKE,
WHAT IS IT? SO YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS. GO FIGURE IT OUT. THANK YOU. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS NOW 1255. AND I KNOW WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE HERE,
BUT FORGIVE US. 
          WE'RE TAKING A HALF HOUR BREAK. WE WILL BE BACK AT 125. 
          OKAY. 131 30 LET'S MAKE. MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO TELL. 
          TIME. 130. SEE YOU LATER. WE'RE IN A WE'RE IN RECESS. 
          ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS NOW 131,
AND WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD. 
          AND WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. 
          [1.b Solid Waste Authority lnterlocal Agreement First Amendment Discussion Presented by Sam May, Executive Director, Broward Solid Waste Authority]
FIRST AMENDMENT DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY SAM MAY,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY. 
          AND THE PANEL IS HERE. SO EVERYBODY COME TO THE TABLE. 
          OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK, COMMISSIONER, VICE. THE VICE MAYOR IS NOT HERE. 
          I'D LIKE TO START OUT AND JUST INTRODUCE YOU TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT,
COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          PRESIDENT. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THAT'S A TOUGH ONE THERE. 
          DENISE HALLEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, FROM THE CITY OF PLANTATION. 
          AND SHE'S ALSO VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN OUR. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. 
          GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE. I AM COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR THE CITY OF PLANTATION. 
          DENISE HALLEN, CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE BROWARD LEAGUE OF CITIES AND MEMBER OF THE SOLID
WASTE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND GOVERNING BOARD. 
          SO WE IN MY POSITION AS LEAGUE PRESIDENT, AS A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE,
HAVE BEEN GOING OUT TO EACH OF THE CITIES WHERE WE CAN JUST TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT DANIEL AND SAM MAY NOT,
YOU KNOW, COMING FROM SOMETIMES FROM AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. LET ME TELL YOU WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS. 
          TWO TWO THINGS. WE HAVE LIMITED FINITE CAPACITY AT THE MONARCH HILL LANDFILL. 
          WE ALSO HAVE LIMITED CAPACITY AT THE WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT. 
          FCC WE ARE IN A CRISIS IN BROWARD COUNTY AND THE ONLY WAY OUT OF THIS IS TOGETHER. 
          THE MIAMI HERALD HAD PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE ON APRIL 19TH REGARDING MIAMI-DADE'S TRASH
SITUATION, AND YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAD LOST THEIR WTE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          THEY ARE NOW TRUCKING ALL OF THEIR SOLID WASTE TO OKEECHOBEE,
AND THIS YEAR IT'S ESTIMATED TO COST $65 MILLION. 
          THAT'S UNSUSTAINABLE FINANCIALLY. IT'S ALSO UNSUSTAINABLE FROM A RESILIENCY STANDPOINT. 
          A LOT OF THOSE COMMUNITIES AROUND THAT OKEECHOBEE LANDFILL NO LONGER WANT THAT TRASH
COMING THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITIES. 
          SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW MIAMI-DADE IS GOING TO GET THEMSELVES OUT OF THAT. 
          BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE THAT IN THAT POSITION IN BROWARD COUNTY. 
          TO DATE, FOUR CITIES SEA RANCH LAKES, HILLSBOROUGH,
COCONUT CREEK AND WHAT WAS THE FOURTH ONE? 
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SOUTHWEST RANCHES TRYING TO REMEMBER BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE FOR THAT ONE. HAVE APPROVED
THE ILA. 
          THERE ARE FIVE MORE VOTES THIS WEEK THAT ARE SCHEDULED,
SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF EVERYONE GETTING IT ON THEIR THEIR AGENDAS. 
          SO I'M HOPING TODAY THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE GENTLEMEN. 
          GET YOUR ANSWERS. I KNOW THAT YOU HAD A BRIEF PRESENTATION PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY FROM
MAYOR BREITKREUZ, BUT AGAIN, I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL PLACE US ON THE. I KNOW IT'S ON THE AGENDA,
I THINK, ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THAT YOU'LL VOTE FOR THIS TO JOIN US. BECAUSE WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT AN ECONOMY OF SCALE, PRICES ARE GOING TO GO UP FOR DISPOSING OF OUR SOLID
WASTE. 
          AND THE ONLY WAY I SEE OUT OF THIS IS ALL OF US BEING ABLE TO BAND TOGETHER. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SAM. DANIEL. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER PATTERSON FOR ALL THE WORK THAT
SHE'S DONE ON THE PART OF THE GOVERNING BOARD. 
          IS CRUCIAL FOR THAT. EVERYONE ALL THE CITIES HAVE A GOVERNING BOARD MEMBER AND THE
GOVERNING BOARD IS REALLY WHAT MAKES UP THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY. IT'S ALL OF THE CITIES THAT ARE PART OF THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY
THAT MAKES IT UP. 
          SO. AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOR, FOR BEING THERE AND BEING PART OF US. 
          MY NAME IS SAM MAY. I'M THE INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE FOR THE SOLID WASTE
AUTHORITY. 
          MY BACKGROUND IS WITH MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES. 
          I'VE WORKED FOR THE CITY OF MARGATE AND THE CITY OF NORTH LAUDERDALE COMBINED FOR ALMOST
40 YEARS. 
          I WAS A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR BETWEEN BOTH OF THOSE FOR 16 YEARS. 
          I WAS A CITY MANAGER FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS AND CITY OF MARGATE. 
          SO YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THE, THE,
THE, EVERYTHING YOU'RE GOING THROUGH. 
          IF IF I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN THIS, I WOULDN'T BE HERE. 
          I BELIEVE WHAT IT'S ABOUT. I KNOW WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST WITH OTHER THINGS,
BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE HERE ABOUT RIGHT NOW. SO I'D LIKE TO START THE PRESENTATION OFF,
IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          OKAY. NOW IS THE TIME. SO YOU WE'RE WE WANT TO AVERT A CRISIS. 
          THERE'S BEEN PROBLEMS IN THE PAST, AS YOU KNOW,
THAT DOWN IN MIAMI DADE THAT THERE'S THERE'S ISSUES THAT THERE WHERE THERE WAS ALMOST A BUILDING MORATORIUM. WE WANT TO PREVENT THAT BUILDING MORATORIUM FROM HAPPENING. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PREVENT A CRISIS FROM HAPPENING. THE THERE'S WITHOUT US BEING
TOGETHER. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE HIGHER COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH EVERYTHING. SO,
AND LIMITED OPTIONS OF WHAT, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE DISPOSING OUR SOLID WASTE. 
          THE MASTER PLAN IS LAID OUT THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          THE MASTER PLAN ALONG WITH THE ILA HAS LAID IT OUT AND PRESENTED A WAY FOR US TO GET OUT
OF IT AND MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. 
          GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO,
WE HAVE AN OVERRELIANCE ON LANDFILLS RIGHT NOW. 
          WE WANT TO CREATE WE WANT TO AVOID THAT OVERRELIANCE ON LANDFILLS BY GIVING MORE OPTIONS. 
          AND SO WE CAN REDUCE THE CAPACITY THAT'S GOING OR KEEP OUR CAPACITY AT LANDFILLS AND
REDUCE WHAT'S GOING IN THERE. 
          WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR RECYCLING RATE. WE WANT TO LEVERAGE OUR PURCHASING POWER,
LEVERAGING OUR PURCHASING POWER BY ALL OF US JOINING TOGETHER. 
          WE WANT TO HAVE AN, WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY
REDUCING WHAT GOES INTO LANDFILLS BY REUSING THINGS BEFORE THEY GO INTO LANDFILLS AND BY EXTRACTING VALUE FROM OUR WASTE STREAM,
SUCH AS ONE GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS COMPOSTING ORGANICS. 
          SO YOU CAN TAKE THE YOUR YARD WASTE AND MAKE COMPOST OUT OF IT. 
          YOU CAN TAKE ANY OF THE ORGANIC MATERIAL THAT'S COMING FROM YOUR GARBAGE AND CREATE
COMPOST THAT EVERYONE CAN UTILIZE THAT COMPOST AND THE YARD WASTE TO MAKE MULCH OUT OF IT. SO THIS IS REALLY NOT GOING TO BE COSTING HARDLY
ANYBODY ANYTHING. IT'S THREE BUCKS A YEAR PER THE RESIDENTS AND PER THE NOT EVEN PER RESIDENTS,
PER HOUSEHOLD RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLD SERVICE. 
          WE RAN THE NUMBERS AND TAMARAC AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY LESS THAN $3 A YEAR BY
JOINING THE SWA YOU'LL BE A MOST FAVORED NATION STATUS. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE BEST PRICES THAT,
THAT EVERYONE HAS THAT THAT ANYTHING'S NEGOTIATED FOR THAT TAMARAC WILL HAVE THE BEST UNIT PRICES. IT'LL BE,
WE'LL HAVE A ROBUST RECYCLING EDUCATION PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE KEY TO IT ALL IS HAVING THAT ROBUST RECYCLING EDUCATION AND
JUST, YOU KNOW, SAY RECYCLING, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE REDUCTION AND REUSE. 
          ALSO, THERE'LL BE CONVENIENT DROP OFF CENTERS THAT WILL BE LOCATED AROUND THE COUNTY. 
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THERE'LL BE A CONVENIENT DROP OFF CENTERS LOCATED AROUND THAT YOU CAN DROP OFF YOUR
HOUSEHOLD, HAZARDOUS WASTE, YOUR PAINT ANY, ANY GENERAL RECYCLING AND BASICALLY RECYCLABLE MATERIALS
THAT AREN'T COLLECTED AT YOUR CURBSIDE WILL BE WHAT YOU CAN TAKE TO THE DROP OFF LOCATIONS. AND OVERALL IT'S GOING TO CREATE CLEANER,
HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO THIS IS KIND OF SHOWING HOW THE FUNDING WORKS ON IT. 
          IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 
          WE CREATE ABOUT 1.33 TONS A YEAR OF AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD CREATES ABOUT THAT MUCH. 
          SOME SOME CITIES, THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLDS ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT. 
          BUT RUNNING THE NUMBERS ON TAMARAC, IT COMES OUT RIGHT AT 1.3 TONS PER YEAR. 
          AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 1.3 TONS PER YEAR, THE RIGHT NOW,
AT THE BEGINNING, THE AUTHORITY WILL BE CHARGING $2.22 PER TON STARTING IN IN FY 28, WHICH COMES OUT TO $2.89 PER YEAR, OR $0.24 A MONTH. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE YOUR SOLID WASTE IS PAID FOR ON AS A SOLID WASTE ASSESSMENT,
A YEARLY ASSESSMENT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A YEARLY ASSESSMENT OR IF IT'S ON A MONTHLY MONTHLY UTILITY BILL,
IT'S AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT. 
          OKAY. SO TO FUND THE AUTHORITY, IT WOULD BE BASICALLY BASED ON THIS $2.89. 
          AND THERE'S THE FUNDING IS BASICALLY BROKEN UP INTO THREE PHASES. 
          THE FIRST PHASE IS BASED ON POPULATION. THAT'S GOING TO BE FY 26,
FY 27. 
          AND YOU'VE ALREADY PAID THAT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S POPULATION BASED. 
          AND FOR TAMARAC IT'S GOING TO BE GOING DOWN FROM WHAT IT WAS NOW FY 28 WILL BE 54,000, I'M SORRY $87,688. WHEN IT GOES TO THE POPULATION BASE,
IT'S GOING TO BE GOING BASED ON THAT 1.3 OR WHAT YOU'VE GENERATED IN THE PAST, IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT $55,000. 
          SO IT'LL BE GOING DOWN COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON TONNAGES
USED BY THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS. 
          AND THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE MADE UP BY THE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE. 
          SO THE COMMERCIAL WON'T BE PAYING THIS RATE. THEY'LL BE PAYING THE SAME RATE,
THE $2.22 A TONNE, BUT IT WON'T BE GOING THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS AND THROUGH THE CITY. IT'LL BE
JUST DIRECT BILLED TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF IT. SO THAT'S JUST A PLUS IS THAT THE RATES WILL BE GOING, OR THE AMOUNT WILL BE GOING DOWN TO THE CITY ITSELF AND TO THE RESIDENTS
WILL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          OH, AND ALSO IN FY SO THERE'S THREE PHASES. THE FIRST PHASE IS BASED ON POPULATION. 
          THE SECOND PHASE IS BASED ON THE TONNAGES. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON A TIPPING FEE AT THE
FACILITY AT THE SOLID WASTE FACILITIES. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD PHASE WILL BE BEGINNING IN FY 20. 
          FI 30 WILL BE A SOLID WASTE ASSESSMENT THROUGH A NON AD VALOREM TAX FROM THE SOLID WASTE
AUTHORITY. 
          AND SO THEN IT WON'T EVEN BE DEALING WITH THE CITIES AT ALL. 
          JUST BE A LINE ON YOUR TAX BILL OF THREE BUCKS OR WHATEVER IT WILL BE ON THE TAX BILL FOR
EACH RESIDENT. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU GET OUT OF IT. LOWER PROCESSING DISPOSAL COSTS,
STABILIZATION PREDICTABILITY. 
          YOU'LL HAVE EXPANDED PROGRAMS. FOOD YARD BULK HAZARDOUS WASTE. 
          BE ABLE TO GET RID OF ALL OF YOUR RECYCLING NEEDS THAT YOU NEED TO GET RID OF. 
          AND IT'LL BE A CIRCULAR ECONOMY WHERE LIKE, FOR INSTANCE,
FOR THE YARD WASTE, IT'LL END UP CREATING MULCH AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MULCH THEN OR FOR COMPOSTING, HAVE ACCESS TO THE COMPOST. 
          IT'LL CREATE A CIRCULAR ECONOMY. IT'LL BE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP BECAUSE WE'LL BE
PUTTING LESS INTO LANDFILLS, LESS INTO THE WASTE ENERGY. MORE WILL BE EITHER REUSED OR OR REDUCED OR RECYCLED. 
          AND YOU CAN MAINTAIN AND YOU MAINTAIN. EXCUSE ME. 
          YOU MAINTAIN THE CONTROL OF THE COLLECTION. SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE WASTE MANAGEMENT AS YOUR
COLLECTION SERVICES. 
          I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL PROBABLY HAPPY WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT AS YOUR COLLECTION SERVICE. 
          AND IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU CAN SWITCH OUT TO WHOEVER YOU WANT TO SWITCH OUT TO. THAT HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY. THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY IS ONLY DEALING WITH THE DISPOSAL, AND THE PROCESSING OF THE SOLID WASTE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
COLLECTION. 
          SO A FEW DOLLARS TODAY WILL PROTECT MILLIONS IN THE LONG RUN. 
          SO THIS IS BASICALLY YOUR DECISION. YOU CAN DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          IT'S BASICALLY LIKE JOINING A CO-OP IS WHAT THE SOLID WASTE AUTHORITY IS. YOU'RE JOINING A
CO-OP TO GET BETTER PRICING ON SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL AND ON SOLID WASTE PROCESSING, AND YOU'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY DOING THE RIGHT THING BY REDUCING WHAT GOES INTO THE LANDFILLS, BY REDUCING WHAT GOES INTO THE WASTE TO ENERGY AND BY YOU KNOW,
DOING THE REDUCTION AND REUSE, OR YOU CAN PAY HIGHER COSTS BECAUSE YOU WILL PAY HIGHER COSTS IF THIS THING DOESN'T HAPPEN
OR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PART OF IT WILL BE PAYING HIGHER COSTS. 
          THERE'S NO WAY AROUND NOT PAYING HIGHER COSTS BECAUSE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW,
THERE'S ABOUT 4.5 MILLION TONS THAT WILL BE GENERATED FROM THE COUNTY. 
          AND IF YOU'RE NOT PART OF THAT, 4.5 MILLION TONS AND YOU'RE PRODUCING YOUR YOU KNOW,
25,000 TONS, 
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THERE'S, YOU'LL BE GETTING A WAY BETTER RATE WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH SOMEBODY WHO HAS 4.5
MILLION TONS. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY IT IN A NUTSHELL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT,
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE CONCEPT REALLY. YOU KNOW,
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BY ALL MEANS, PLEASE ASK US. WELL, LOOKS LIKE WE ARE THOROUGH. 
          YOU ARE THOROUGH. AND THE OTHER PRESENTATION WE HAD ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO THERE SEEMS TO BE
NO QUESTIONS FOR YOU TODAY. 
          OKAY. AND THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR HAVING US. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. WE ARE NOW MOVING TO ONE D AND THAT IS LIEN SETTLEMENT PROGRAM
DISCUSSION AND CONSENSUS BEING PRESENTED BY OUR 
          [1.d Lien Settlement Program Discussion and Consensus Presented by Kent Walia, Community Development Director, and Stephanie Bass, Code Compliance Manager]
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND STEPHANIE BASS,
OUR CODE COMPLIANCE MANAGER. YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT'S. NOT THAT WE HAVEN'T MADE THE CALL THEY WANTED TO CONSIDER. HOW DO YOU TELL IF THE CAMERA IS ON? YOU WANT TO DRINK MY COKE? YEAH, I KNOW. YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          YOU NEVER KNOW. COMMISSIONER. I'LL SLOW YOU DOWN. 
          YEAH. THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT I WELCOME. OH. THAT ONE. 
          THANK YOU. ALEXANDER. DEPUTY. OR IS IT ASSISTANT? I'M SORRY. WE'VE CHANGED IT IN SOME PLACES. BUILDING OFFICIAL. 
          THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR HAVING US. ALEXANDRA. 
          STEPHANIE BASS, CODE COMPLIANCE MANAGER. WE WILL BE PRESENTING TODAY ON THE ORANGE DATA
SYSTEM. 
          TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE. WHAT DID WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? ORANGE DATA SYSTEM. OKAY. SORRY, I HEARD SOMETHING ELSE. 
          OH, SORRY. IT'S ALL GOOD. WHAT DID YOU DO? BADASS. 
          SORRY. SORRY. IT'S WHAT I HEARD. IT'S A LEGAL TERMINOLOGY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          STEPHANIE BASCO, COMPLIANCE MANAGER. I'M GOING TO BE PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF OUR
OUTSTANDING CODE COMPLIANCE AND BUILDING CODE LIENS, AND PRESENTING A SERVICE THAT CAN HELP IN THE RECOVERY OF THOSE LIENS. 
          I'M GOING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE LIENS ARE CREATED,
HIGHLIGHT AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOVER THOSE OUTSTANDING LIENS, INTRODUCE ORANGE DATA SOLUTIONS, DEMONSTRATE HOW ODS CAN SUPPORT THE RECOVERY AND REQUEST
COMMISSION DIRECTION. 
          SO THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK IS THAT THE LIENS ARE ACTUALLY GENERATED THROUGH THE FLORIDA
STATUTE. 
          THAT GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE LIENS ON PROPERTIES. 
          WHAT THE MAGISTRATE DOES IS THE MAGISTRATE IMPOSES THE FINES. 
          ONCE THE FINES ARE NOT PAID, THEN THOSE FINES ARE TURNED INTO LIENS,
AND THOSE LIENS ARE RECORDED THROUGH THE BROWARD COUNTY CLERK OF CIRCUIT COURTS. 
          THE LIENS ARE ATTACHED TO A PROPERTY OR VIOLATOR,
AND AFTER A 90 DAY PERIOD, THE CITY CAN PURSUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FORECLOSURE ON ANY OF THOSE LIENS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PAID, THOSE OUTSTANDING LIENS. 
          OUR CURRENT PROCESS IS THAT THE PROPERTY IS BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE FIRST. THEN THE
PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTS A REDUCTION OR A REDUCTION IN THOSE LIENS. 
          THEY HAVE TWO OPTIONS. THEY CAN GO THROUGH OUR SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ABATEMENT HEARING,
OR THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE LIEN SETTLEMENT. 
          THE PAYMENT IS REQUIRED BEFORE THE LIEN IS RELEASED. ONCE THE PAYMENT IS REQUIRED,
THEY PAY A 492 FEE WHEREIN THAT LIEN GETS RELEASED FROM THE PROPERTY. 
          OUR CURRENT RECOVERY APPROACH IS. REQUEST IS A REQUEST DRIVEN PROCESS WHEREIN THE
RESOLUTION BEGINS ONLY WHEN THE REQUEST IS SUBMITTED. 
          THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR REALTORS AND TITLE COMPANIES INITIATE THE PROCESS. 
          WE HAVE NO ACTIVE AMNESTY PROGRAM CURRENTLY IN PLACE,
SO RECOVERY PRIMARILY ONLY OCCURS WHEN A PROPERTY TRANSACTION OR INQUIRY IS INITIATED. 
          THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THE RECOVERY PROCESS THROUGH STRENGTHENING OUR RECOVERY
PROCESS. 
          THE OUTSTANDING LIENS MAY REMAIN UNRESOLVED OR BE WITHOUT DIRECT ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THAT RECOVERY THROUGH A MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH. 
          WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AGE LIENS, CASES WITH LIMITED OWNER ENGAGEMENT AND INCREASED
RESOLUTION WITHOUT ALTERING OUR EXISTING PROCESS. 
          ORANGE DATA SOLUTIONS ORANGE DATA SOLUTION IS A COMPANY THAT FACILITATES THE RESOLUTION OF
OUTSTANDING BUILDING AND CODE COMPLIANCE LIENS. 
          THEY COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND CLOSING AGENTS. 
          THEY WORK WITHIN WITHIN THE CITY APPROVED SETTLEMENT PERMIT PERIMETERS. 
          THEY'RE NOT A COLLECTION AGENCY, AND THE CITY RETAINS FULL AUTHORITY AND APPROVAL OVER ANY
TYPE OF REDUCTIONS. 
          HOW DOES THE EXISTING PROCESS WORKS? THE EXISTING PROCESS IS THAT THE FULL AUTHORITY OVER
SETTLEMENT TAMARAC RETAINS THE FULL AUTHORITY OVER SETTLEMENT PROCESS OR HOW THE EXISTING PROCESS WOULD WORK. ODS WOULD HANDLE A STRUCTURED OUTREACH FOR PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          THEY DO A NINE TOUCH ACROSS MULTIPLE MAIL, EMAIL AND PHONE CALLS,
ALL ADVANCE, ALL ABATEMENT APPROVALS THROUGH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WILL STILL 
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GO THROUGH THE CITY. THE CITY WILL RETAIN THAT ODS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PREPARING THE
SETTLEMENT PACKETS WITH, WITH, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS AND THE CITY CLERK'S APPROVAL,
THE CONTROL THE CITY WILL RETAIN CONTROL OVER WHICH CASES ENTERED THE PROGRAM. 
          ODS WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLECTION OF ALL SIGNATURES AND SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FROM
PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          TAMARAC WILL RETAIN DIRECT RECEIPT OF ALL PAYMENTS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR FILING OF THE COMPLETED DOCUMENTS WITH THE APPROPRIATE OFFICES. 
          TAMARAC WILL RETAIN THE ABILITY TO PAUSE OR DISCONTINUE AT ANY TIME. 
          ODS WILL COORDINATE WITH THE CITY STAFF THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          TAMARAC RETAINS THE DECISION ON LIEN WAIVERS,
REDUCTIONS, AND FULL PAYMENT. 
          ODS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOTIFICATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND APPROVE SETTLEMENT
TERMS. THE CURRENT APPROACH VERSUS THE ENHANCED APPROACH, THE CURRENT APPROACH IS REACTIVE IS REACTIVE ONLY IT'S REACTIVE APPROACH WHEREIN ODS WILL
HAVE A MORE PROACTIVE AND DATA DRIVEN APPROACH. 
          OUR CURRENT APPROACH FOR THE CITY DEPENDS ON OTHERS. 
          TO INITIATE WARFARIN. ODS WOULD DIRECT THE OUTREACH TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          CURRENT APPROACH IS THERE'S. THERE'S NO PROACTIVE OUTREACH AND ODS WILL HAVE PROACTIVE
MULTI-TOUCH OUTREACH. 
          THE CURRENT APPROACH IS WE HAVE A LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOVER OUR OUTSTANDING LIENS
WERE IN ODDS WILL HAVE MORE RESOLUTIONS AND MORE REVENUE BY INCREASING THE LEAN REDUCTION WITHOUT CHANGING THE EXISTING CITY PROCESS. 
          THE CURRENT APPROACH IS DELAYED. RESOLUTIONS. 
          ODDS IS FASTER. MORE CONSISTENT OUTCOMES. COST OF THE CITY IS ZERO. 
          UPFRONT ODDS IS COMPENSATED ONLY WHEN FUNDS ARE RECOVERED. 
          FOR AN EXAMPLE, THEY WILL COLLECT 20% OF THE COLLECTED SETTLEMENT AMOUNT. 
          IF A SETTLEMENT AMOUNT IS AGREED UPON FOR $10,000,
THAT MEANS ODDS WOULD COLLECT 20% OF THAT AND THE REMAINING WOULD BE TO THE CITY. 
          SO ODDS IS PAID ON A CONTINGENCY BASIS ONLY. SO OUR OUTSTANDING LIEN INVENTORY. 
          THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE CITY'S CURRENT OUTSTANDING LIEN BALANCES. 
          FOR THE BUILDING CODE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 28.1 MILLION OUTSTANDING LIENS FOR A TOTAL OF
OVER 1000 CASES FOR OUT FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 32.2 MILLION WITH OVER 1200 OUTSTANDING CASES. 
          A TOTAL OUTSTANDING AMOUNT OF 60.4 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING LIENS FOR DISTRICT ONE. 
          THE CODE COMPLIANCE LIENS ARE APPROXIMATELY 8.8. 
          FOR BUILDING CODE LIENS. IT'S 13.5 MILLION FOR DISTRICT TWO. 
          THE CODE COMPLIANCE LIENS ARE OUTSTANDING. AMOUNT OF 6.4 MILLION FOR THE BUILDING LIENS
5.9 FOR DISTRICT THREE. 
          THE OUTSTANDING LIEN AMOUNTS IS ABOUT 3.8 MILLION,
AND WE'RE BUILDING ABOUT 2.7 FOR DISTRICT FOUR. 
          THE CODE COMPLIANCE LIENS IS AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 13.9 MILLION BUILDING CODES,
ABOUT 5.9. 
          SO WE WANTED TO REACH OUT TO A COMPARABLE MUNICIPALITY. 
          SO THEY CURRENTLY WORK WITH THE CITY OF OAKLAND PARK,
WHEREIN SO FAR THEY'VE RECOVERED ABOUT 1.3 MILLION OF THE OUTSTANDING LIENS, OVER 171 DORMANT CASES. SO WHAT IT DOES IS IT WAS ZERO COST TO THE CITY AND IT REDUCED
STAFF HOURS AS WELL. 
          SO WHAT THIS MEANS FOR US IS THAT IT WILL BE A PROVEN PARTNERSHIP THAT CAN DELIVER
MEASURABLE RESULTS WITHOUT A COST AND ADDITIONAL STAFF OR DISRUPTION IN THE CURRENT OPERATIONS. THEY WILL PROVIDE A PROACTIVE OUTREACH TO PROPERTY OWNERS EFFICIENTLY
RESOLUTION PROCESS, DATA DRIVEN PRIORITIZATION, FULL TRANSPARENCY AND REPORTING,
AND WILL RESULT IN ACHIEVE WHAT WOULD RESULT BY THE CITY STAFF FOCUSES ON MORE CORE RESPONSIBILITIES. WHAT DOES NOT CHANGE IS THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ABATEMENT HEARING
PROCESS DOESN'T CHANGE. 
          THE ADMINISTRATIVE LIEN SETTLEMENT PROCESS DOESN'T CHANGE,
AND THE CITY RETAINS AUTHORITY. 
          PAYMENTS ARE MADE DIRECTLY TO THE CITY, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STANDARDS REMAIN UNCHANGED,
AND THERE'S NO CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE OR PROCEDURES CURRENTLY. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECOMMENDING TO CONTINUE EVALUATING A
PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY WITH ODS. 
          EXPLORE PROCUREMENT OPTIONS. COORDINATE WITH AGREEMENT. 
          PREPARATION WITH ODDS. FINALIZE THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF SERVICES,
AND RETURN TO THE COMMISSION AT A FUTURE MEETING FOR A FORMAL CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. 
          OUR NEXT STEPS WOULD BE IN JUNE TO FOREST. PROPOSED PATH FORWARD WOULD BE IN JUNE FOR
PROCUREMENT EVALUATION, JULY FOR AN AGREEMENT PREPARATION AND IN AUGUST FOR US TO RETURN TO COMMISSION. 
          THAT'S IT. QUESTIONS? YES. LET ME SEE THE DISTRICT ONE SLIDE. 
          YEAH. GO AHEAD, VICE MAYOR. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE QUESTION. 
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13 FOR BUILDING CODE 8 MILLION PLUS 13. YEAH. 
          YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE THE OVERALL WAS THIS OVERALL IS 60 MILLION. 
          SO IT'S EIGHT FOR COLD AND THEN ABOUT 1314 POINT SOMETHING FOR BUILDING. 
          YEAH. I JUST WANT YOU TO ADD IT. RIGHT. OKAY. 
          WHERE ARE THESE WHERE THESE LIENS COMING FROM. 
          SO FROM CODE COMPLIANCE, IF THE PROPERTY COMES INTO COMPLIANCE,
ONCE WE GIVE THEM A COMPLIANCE DEADLINE AND THEY DON'T MEET THAT DEADLINE, DAILY FINES START TO ACCRUE. SO IF EVEN IF THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE AFTER THEY'RE IN
COMPLIANCE, IF THEY HAVE NOT PAID THE OUTSTANDING FINE AMOUNT,
THEN THAT'S WHERE THESE LIENS COME IN. SO IF THEY HAD A COMPLIANCE DEADLINE OF JANUARY 1ST AND THEY DIDN'T COME INTO COMPLIANCE UNTIL JULY,
THOSE DAILY FINES WOULD ACCRUE UP UNTIL THEY CAME INTO COMPLIANCE, AND WE WOULD PUT A LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY FOR THAT OUTSTANDING AMOUNT. SO SO THESE ARE
FOR RESIDENTIAL BUSINESSES, CONDOS, RIGHT. EVERYBODY LUMPED TOGETHER. ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO YEAH FOR FOR CODE COMPLIANCE. YES. AND THEN FOR BUILDING THOSE ARE USUALLY GENERATED
FOR VICE MAYOR FOR BUILDING. 
          THEY'RE MORE RESIDENTIAL FOR BUILDING. OKAY. WHY ARE YOU PRESENTING? WHERE IS YOUR BOSS? HE BROUGHT THEM UP FOR QUESTIONS. 
          NO, IT'S. OKAY. SO. SO WE HAVE DO WE HAVE A BREAKOUT NUMBER FOR THE LIENS? LIKE LET'S SAY HOUSES? IS THIS NUMBER BUSINESSES, THIS NUMBER, YOU KNOW,
COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IS THIS NUMBER, THAT SORT OF STUFF. 
          WE CAN DO A BREAKOUT. IT'S OVER 400 AND SOMETHING OUTSTANDING. 
          BUT WHAT I DID HAVE A BREAKOUT OF IS JUST THE COMMUNITIES OF LIKE THE COMMUNITIES,
THE NUMBERS FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR EACH DISTRICT. SO I HAVE LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE LIKE THE DIFFERENT
LANES IN EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS, LIKE FOR INSTANCE I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE FOR DISTRICT TWO AND LYME BAY IS THREE
OUTSTANDING FOR MAINLAND EIGHT AND DISTRICT ONE. 
          THERE'S, ONE OUTSTANDING. SO I HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY NEIGHBORHOODS,
BY COMMUNITIES, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY BY WHAT TYPE OF VIOLATIONS THEY ARE. FOR EACH ONE. 
          WELL, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. OKAY. 
          INTERESTING. YOU HAVE IT. I ALWAYS ASK FOR TOUGH THINGS,
BUT YOU SEEM LIKE YOU ARE. 
          I'LL MAKE SURE I SEND IT TO YOU ON THE BALL. THAT'S HOW I FIGURE OUT IF EMPLOYEES ARE GOOD
OR NOT. 
          SO SO THIS, THIS 8 MILLION AND THIS 13 MILLION. 
          THE IDEA IS YOU, YOU'RE ASKING FOR US TO GIVE RELIEF OR WHAT'S THE SOLUTION THAT YOU'RE
ASKING? SO IT'S ODDS. ODDS IS A RECOVERY SERVICE LIKE RIGHT NOW,
LIKE SOME CITIES HAVE LIKE AMNESTY PROGRAMS WHERE THEY'LL JUST GIVE A BLANKET AMNESTY FOR YOU TO PAY LIENS. WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS COMPANY DOES IS THEY REACH OUT,
THEY HAVE A TITLE, THEY OWN THEIR OWN TITLE COMPANY. SO THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR EACH OF THESE
PROPERTIES AND THEY'LL REACH OUT TO THE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS SAYING, FOR INSTANCE, YOU HAVE $10,000 IN OUTSTANDING LIENS WITH THE CITY OF TAMARAC. 
          WE'RE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE THE LIEN AMOUNT TO GET THEM IN ORDER TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          SO THEREFORE, IT IS STILL GENERATE REVENUE FOR US. 
          AND THIS IS, OH, D S YES. OKAY. ORANGE DATA SOLUTIONS. 
          AND WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? THEY ARE THEY'RE LOCATED IN I THINK IN MID FLORIDA. 
          I'M. YEAH. CENTRAL FLORIDA. YEAH. OKAY. BUT WHAT ARE THE CITIES IN IN THE AREA. 
          USE OAKLAND PARK. THEY'VE USED OAKLAND PARK. SO SO FAR THEY'VE RECOVERED ABOUT ONE OVER $1
MILLION FOR THE CITY OF OAKLAND PARK. 
          THAT WAS DONE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH THE 1 MILLION THEY SAID WAS GENERATED,
RECOVERED WITHIN THE FIRST 2 TO 3 YEARS OF THEM WORKING WITH THE CITY OF OAKLAND PARK. $1 MILLION SOUNDS A LOT FOR OAKLAND PARK. 
          HOWEVER, IF IF OAKLAND PARK HAS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY OUTSTANDING IN LIENS LIKE WE HAVE. 
          RIGHT. BECAUSE IN ON MY SLIDE, I'M SEEING 13 MILLION. 
          THEN IF YOU GO TO THE OTHER. MAYBE YOU HAVE LIKE 60 MILLION. 
          I THINK I SAW A NUMBER, RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE OVERALL,
THE OVERALL. 
          SO, SO SO IF THE OVERALL NUMBER IN OAKLAND PARK,
LET'S SAY IS 60 MILLION, LIKE TAMARAC. 
          AND THEY HAVE THEY HAVE ONLY RECOVERED $1 MILLION OF THAT $60 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS,
THEN I WOULD THINK THAT'S A FAIL. 
          SO SO WHAT'S THE OVERALL NUMBER THAT OAKLAND PARK HAS? SO THE NUMBERS THAT THEY PRESENTED TO ME, THE COMPANY PRESENTED TO ME,
WHICH WAS THE 1 MILLION, THEY SAID THAT THAT WAS 60% OF WHAT THEY HAD IN OUTSTANDING LIENS. 
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I DON'T BUY IT. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE HOW BIG IS OAKLAND PARK AGAIN? IS IT IS IT SMALLER? IT'S SMALLER. IT'S SMALLER THAN US. 
          IT'S SMALLER. BUT I THINK THEY'RE AN ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITY TOO,
AS WELL. SO THEY MIGHT BE OVER 5000 THRESHOLD. 
          YEAH. I MEAN THEY CAN JUST ANNEX. WILTON MANORS IS. 
          NOT ENTITLEMENT. THEY'RE UNDERNEATH THAT THRESHOLD. SO YEAH 44,000 COMPARED TO 72,000. 
          IF YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES WITH ORANGES THEN THEIR LEAN AMOUNT SHOULD BE LIKE $30,000,
$30 MILLION. 
          JUST GIVING A, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THEIR,
THEIR WHOLE CITY WOULD BE ONE POINT SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS IN OUTSTANDING LIENS. 
          THAT'S HOW MUCH THEY SAY THEY'VE COLLECTED THUS FAR. I'M SAYING YOU SAID YOU THEY SAID
THAT THEY COLLECTED 160%, WHICH EQUALS TO $1 MILLION. THE FUZZY MATH IS THE OVERALL THING IS LIKE 1.6 MILLION OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS CITY, A CITY HAVING LIKE LIENS,
OUTSTANDING LIENS AT $1.6 MILLION. 
          THAT DON'T SOUND RIGHT. SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE THEY'RE WATCHING. 
          MAYBE THE COMPANY IS WATCHING. I'M SURE THEY,
THEY WANT US TO, TO GIVE THEM BUSINESS. 
          I WOULD HOPE THEY'RE WATCHING. AND I'D HOPE IF YOU'RE WATCHING SINCE STEPHANIE THE
INFORMATION NOW TO TELL US HOW MUCH OF THE OUTSTANDING LIENS EQUAL, YOU KNOW,
THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING THAT YOU'VE COLLECTED $1 MILLION FROM. 
          OKAY. RIGHT. DON'T REACH OUT TO THEM. AND MAYBE ONE OF YOUR STAFF MEMBERS IN THE MEANTIME
CAN, CAN JUST ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION. VICE MAYOR,
THIS SLIDE HAS 171 CASES. 
          THEY COLLECT THAT $1.3 MILLION FROM THEY HAD 171 CASES THAT WAS RESOLVED IN THAT 1.3 MILLION. YEAH. BUT I'M SO SO THOSE ARE THE CASES THEY
RESOLVED. 
          HOWEVER, HOW MANY CASES EXIST, RIGHT. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THE WHOLE CITY OF 44000
PEOPLE WITH VIBRANT BUSINESSES AND LOTS OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO HAVE 171 OR EVEN 250 CASES,
LET'S SAY IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IF THEY HAD, LET'S SAY, 250 CASES, THEY RESOLVE 171 TO EQUAL 1.3 MILLION CASES. 
          I DON'T I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE HOW THAT THAT IS ACCURATE. 
          THAT IS I CAN I CAN PUT MY HAND ON ABOUT THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. 
          I'LL ASK HIM TO PROVIDE THE NUMBERS AGAIN FOR OAKLAND. 
          EVEN LAUDERDALE LAKES. LAUDERDALE LAKES HAVE MORE. 
          WELL, MAYBE THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE MORE MORE LEAN OUTSTANDING LIENS. 
          BUT IS THIS LIKE, YOU KNOW. SO I'LL YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUES WHILE YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR
THAT INFORMATION. 
          AND THEN I'LL COME BACK BECAUSE THAT WILL DETERMINE HOW I WOULD GIVE MY CONSENSUS. 
          I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO OUTSOURCE SOMETHING TO A,
TO A COMPANY WHERE THEY'RE SPENDING FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, CHASING 150 PEOPLE TO COLLECT $1 MILLION OVER,
OVER A FIVE YEARS OUT OF $60 MILLION. 
          THAT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE. AND JUST WANT TO REITERATE TO THAT THERE'S NO COST TO US,
TO THE CITY AT ALL. 
          SO THEY'RE THEY ONLY COLLECT IF THEY THEY ONLY GET A PERCENTAGE IF THEY ACTUALLY ARE
SUCCESSFUL. 
          YEAH. LIKE PERSONAL INJURY ATTORNEYS. YEAH. WELL,
WE HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          YEAH. BUT I'M JUST BUT YOU KNOW, AN INDIVIDUAL,
YOU KNOW, AN INDIVIDUAL. 
          RIGHT. AND AND LISTEN, THE WHOLE CITY WANTS A WANTS A JOB,
ESPECIALLY SPIRITUAL PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC. 
          THEY'VE BEEN BEGGING FOR FOR JOBS, RIGHT? SO WHY NOT JUST,
YOU KNOW, HIRE A TEMP STAFF THAT THAT GOES AFTER LIENS, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT NO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY UP FRONT WITH THIS COMPANY,
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY COLLECT A PERCENTAGE. NOW OVER TIME, HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE WILL THEY COLLECT? RIGHT. WELL HOW MUCH HOW MUCH DO THEY CHARGE. 
          THEY GET 20% 20%. SO IF THEY IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING ALL OF IT,
SO 20% OF $60 MILLION, I NEED TO START THAT BUSINESS. WHAT VICE MAYOR YOU. 
          HOLD ON A SECOND, MAN. 20% OF $60 MILLION. LET'S LET'S GO WITH YOUR SUCCESS RATE. 
          HOLD ON A SECOND. I'M SUDDENLY INTERESTED. SO. 
          NO, LET ME, LET ME LET ME DO MY MATH. 60 MILLION. 
          [03:25:01]
SIX. SO 60, 60%. THE SUCCESS RATE OF 60% OF THAT. 
          OF THAT 60 MILLION WOULD BE $36 MILLION. NOW,
IF THEY COLLECT 20% OF THAT, THEY'RE GETTING $7.2 MILLION. DO I KNOW I AM INTERESTED? I'LL RESIGN TOMORROW MORNING. 
          I WON'T RUN FOR MAYOR. GOT IT. TAKE ME OFF THE COMMISSION. 
          7.2 MILLION DIVIDED BY FIVE YEARS. THEY'LL BE MAKING $1.4 MILLION PER YEAR. 
          IF THEY GET THAT 60% SUCCESS RATE OF THAT SIX. 
          OH, SIGN ME UP. VICE MAYOR. THERE'S AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT. 
          THE ENTIRE COST WILL BE $60 MILLION, BUT YOU HAVE TO CHECK YOUR COLLECTION RATE AT ABOUT
10% OF THAT. 
          NO, BUT BUT THEY SAY THEIR SUCCESS RATE IS 60%. 
          SUCCESS RATE IN OAKLAND PARK. THEY WILL COLLECT 20% OF WHATEVER THEY COLLECT,
BUT OUR COLLECTION RATE HAS TO BE BASED ON ABOUT 10% OF THAT $60 MILLION. IT WOULDN'T BE THAT WHOLE $60 MILLION. 
          SO, SO SO BECAUSE WE WILL REDUCE IT. SO SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU REDUCE FROM THE 60
MILLION. 
          YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A DEAL,
ANTICIPATE, ANTICIPATE 10% OF THAT $60 MILLION? YEAH. SO THE 60 MILLION WILL BE 6 MILLION. YES. 
          OKAY. SO 6,000,001.3 OF 6 MILLION. IT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I CAN RESIGN AND TRUE THAT. LIKE WHAT? LISTEN,
I'M IN THE WRONG BUSINESS. 
          I'M HERE MAKING $60,000 PER YEAR, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE 20% OF $6 MILLION. 
          YOU. YOU'RE CUCKOO. I KNOW MY PEOPLE ARE GOOD. 
          OOH. WHAT THE. BOLTON HOLDINGS. SO IF I MAY,
JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT DICO SAID, BASED OFF OF THAT PERCENTAGE,
KNOW THAT 1.3 COMPARED TO SIX IS A MORE REALISTIC PERCENTAGE AS TO HOW THE SUCCESS RATE IS. IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AS A KIND OF A RATIO. 
          WHY DIDN'T THEY COME TO THE MEETING? YOU KNOW,
I'M TIRED OF THESE PEOPLE WANTING BUSINESS AND CAN'T EVEN FLY SOMEBODY OR PUT SOMEBODY ON A TRUCK, AMTRAK TRAIN TO COME AND SIT IN THE MEETING TO TO FIND OUT. 
          NO. YEAH. NO. TELL THEM IF THEY WANT US TO GIVE THEM CONSENSUS FOR THEIR BUSINESS,
THEY NEED TO COME AND SIT DOWN HERE. 
          I'M NOT GIVING A COMPANY THAT I HAVE NO CLUE FROM IN MIDDLE OF FLORIDA THAT THEY CAN JUST
DRIVE DOWN AND THEY'RE GETTING 20% OF REVENUE. 
          NO, IT'S A GOOD IDEA IT'S A GOOD PRESENTATION. 
          YOU HAVE WONDERFUL STATISTICS. YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK. 
          YOU. YOU ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. ALL OF YOU. 
          BUT FOR ME, I'M GIVING MY CONSENSUS NOW. IT'S A NO. 
          SIMPLE. SIMPLE. SIMPLY FOR THEY ARE NOT HERE. 
          NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA FROM THEM FROM OAKLAND PARK BECAUSE I DON'T
BELIEVE IT. 
          NUMBER THREE, I WANT TO REALLY KNOW HOW THEY CAN COLLECT ALL THIS MONEY OVER FIVE YEARS. 
          NO, IT'S TOO MANY, TOO MANY QUESTIONS. SO, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE THEY CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH EACH OF US. 
          OKAY. YOU NEED TO SEND THEM TO US. HAVE HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS. 
          LET US LET US HEAR FROM THEM DIRECTLY. GOOD PRESENTATION. 
          BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. 
          UNDERSTOOD. VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. RIGHT. I THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MADAM MAYOR. 
          YOU SAID IT'S A 10% COLLECTION RATE. SO THAT'S REALISTICALLY THE NUMBER 6 MILLION. 
          YES. BECAUSE WE WHEN WE NEGOTIATE, WE WE START AT 10%. 
          SO NEGOTIATE. SO IN BASEBALL TERMS YOU'RE BATTING AVERAGE WOULD BE 10%. 
          WOULD THEY HAVE A HIGHER BATTING AVERAGE? IF IF IF IF YOU SET IT AT TEN BRINGING IN THESE
GUYS, ARE WE GOING TO GET 15. ARE WE GOING TO GET 20. 
          YES, WE WE COULD GO UP TO WE WE COULD START AT 20%. 
          YOU CAN START AT 20. BUT WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF BRINGING IN THIS COMPANY? ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A BETTER. ARE THEY GOING TO COLLECT A HIGHER AMOUNT OF MONEY OR ARE
THEY GOING TO COLLECT. NO, NO. SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS COMPANY, IF WE LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY,
IS RIGHT NOW OUR PROCESS IS SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A LIEN ON THEIR HOUSE UNTIL THEY GO TO SIGN UP TO ACTUALLY SELL THEIR
HOMES. 
          RIGHT? THAT'S WHEN THEY DISCOVER THAT THEY HAVE A LIEN. 
          SO THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO BE PROACTIVE. AND ONCE WE HAVE A LIEN,
WHETHER IT'S COLD OR BUILDING, THEY WILL REACH OUT TO THEM. YEAH. AHEAD OF TIME AND SAY,
LOOK, YOU HAVE A LIEN ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          [03:30:01]
WE'RE GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO TAKE CARE OF THE LIEN. 
          RIGHT. SO WHAT IT WILL DO, IT'S A, A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO COLLECTING OUR LIEN FUNDS
RATHER THAN WHEN YOU GO TO SELL YOUR, YOUR HOUSE, YOU DISCOVER THE TITLE COMPANY, DISCOVER THAT THERE'S A LIEN ON THE HOUSE. 
          SO GOING BACK TO YOUR SLIDE, GOING BACK TO WHERE IT HAS A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT,
WHAT WE HANDLE AND WHAT THEY HANDLE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE? OKAY. 
          SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THERE ARE THERE ARE LIKE A MARKETING COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO
EDUCATE PEOPLE MORE OF WHAT IS OUTSTANDING. 
          YES. RIGHT NOW WE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO MECHANISM IN PLACE TO FOR OUTREACH. 
          YEAH. TO HAVE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A LIEN ON THEIR PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. SO MOST OF THE LIENS RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST DORMANT. 
          IT'S JUST THERE. IT WAS PUT ON THERE. SOME OF THEM COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND IT WAS JUST
THERE. 
          IT WASN'T EVEN SETTLED. SO THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND SAY,
LISTEN, YOUR PROPERTY WAS IN VIOLATION. 
          IT'S NOW IT'S NOW THE VIOLATION IS NOW SETTLED. 
          THE NEXT STEP IS FOR YOU TO COLLECT TO SETTLE THE LIEN ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          SO. BUT COMMISSIONER, IF I MAY IT'S NOT WE CAN'T REALLY CALL IT AN EDUCATION. 
          WE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A COLLECTION SERVICE FOR OUTSTANDING LIENS. 
          AND SO THEY WOULD THEY WOULD DEFINITELY PURSUE OUR PRINCIPLES OF,
OF SETTLEMENT THE WAY WE DO. 
          BUT THEY WOULD BE MORE PROACTIVE IN TERMS OF REACHING OUT TO ALL THOSE YOU KNOW,
LIEN HOLDERS. 
          SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE GUYS AND LIKE A COLLECTION,
LIKE A BILL COLLECTOR? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHAT? ODDS. YEAH. WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT MAKES THEM UNIQUE TO THIS SPECIFIC INDUSTRY? BECAUSE WHEN I SEARCHED THEM, I SEE THAT THEY HAVE CITIES IN MARTIN COUNTY AND THOSE
PLACES UP, UP NORTH. BUT IT'S LIKE A, IT'S LIKE A AS YOU SAID,
IT'S A REAL, IT'S A TITLE COMPANY. 
          LIKE. YES. SO I MEAN, WHAT WE CAN GO AND GET A COLLECTION AGENCY WHO MIGHT BE A LITTLE
MORE AGGRESSIVE AND WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY? ARE THEY USING PEOPLE? ARE THEY USING SOFTWARE? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THEIR CORE ADVANTAGE? SO THEY THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TITLE. 
          THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TITLE COMPANY. SO THEY HAVE THE,
THEY'RE PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION. 
          THEY ALREADY HAVE THIS INFORMATION AS A TITLE COMPANY. SO THEY SEE ALL THAT. SO YEAH. 
          OKAY. SO OKAY, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT OKAY. THAT'S A TITLE COMPANY. 
          YES. THAT'S A SPECIALTY. YEAH. AND THIS IS THEIR NICHE. 
          NOW THEY'RE GOING FROM CITY TO CITY. HE'S COLLECTING. YEAH. AND THEY TAKE 20%. 
          CAN, CAN WE, CAN WE NEGOTIATE A BETTER PERCENTAGE OF THAT 20%? WHY 20% IS THAT INDUSTRY STANDARD THAT WAS THERE WHEN THEY SENT US. 
          THAT WAS THEIR AGREEMENT. WHAT THEY. THAT'S THE AGREEMENT. THEY OFFER US 20%. SO WE DIDN'T
WE DIDN'T SEE WITH ALL ABOUT 10%. 
          YES. NO, WE JUST PRESENTED IT TO COMMISSION FIRST TO SEE WHAT YOUR CONSENSUS ON IT WAS. 
          WHAT MY WHAT A CONSENSUS. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY. OKAY. 
          WELL, WE LEARNED ABOUT A NEW BUSINESS TODAY. WE LEARNED ABOUT CAN YOU GO FOR IT. 
          OKAY. SO YEAH, I HAVE TO DO MORE RESEARCH AS WELL. 
          KIND OF TO KIND OF LEARN MORE AND GET MORE INFORMATION. 
          BUT YEAH, FOR NOW, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD DEAL FOR THE COMPANY. 
          I MEAN, 20% AND THAT'S THAT. I MEAN, AND YOU JUST,
YOU JUST HAVE TO COLLECT THE STUFF AND YOU'RE ALREADY A TITLE COMPANY ALREADY IN YOUR DATABASE. SO WHAT WORK ARE YOU DOING JUST SITTING IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER AND EMAILING
PEOPLE. YEAH, THEY SAY THEY HAVE NINE OUTREACHES. THEY DO NOT OUTREACHES THROUGH EMAIL, PHONE CALLS. SO SO I HAVE A CALL CENTER. PEOPLE LIKE IN INDONESIA,
CALL CALLS PEOPLE AND THEY'RE YEAH, THEY SEND EMAILS, THEY SEND LETTERS. THEY ARE,
THEY ARE THEY USING PEOPLE ARE USING ROBOCALLS? I'M NOT SURE I CAN FIND OUT IF THEY'RE USING PEOPLE. 
          YEAH. ALL OF THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE
GETTING, YOU KNOW. MARLON WANTS TO PUT HIS OFFICE TOGETHER, KNOW. 
          HOW TO DO IT. I RESPECT THEIR INNOVATION AND THEIR BUSINESS ACUMEN. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS AMERICA, THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY. BUT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE,
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE PRUDENT IN HOW WE HANDLE IT. 
          SO WE DID WE COLLECT THE MONEY DIRECTLY. WE COLLECT THE MONEY,
THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS PAY US AND THEN WE, WE PAY THEM A PERCENTAGE. THE CITY WRITES THEM A CHECK. 
          YEAH. THEY PAY US DIRECTLY. THEY PAY THE, THEY PAY THE CITY. 
          THEY PAY THE CITY. YEAH. THEY WOULD JUST BE THE OUTREACH COMPANY. BUT YEAH,
ALL THE NONE OF OUR PROCESSES WILL BE CHANGED. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, LIKE WE SAID, OVER LIKE 60 MILLION OUT THERE AND LINKS THAT WE HAVE
NO OUTREACH FOR. 
          SO WE HAVE NO PROGRAMS OR NO WAY OF BEING PROACTIVE WITH COLLECTING THESE LINKS. 
          AND I KNOW EARLIER WE WERE SAYING THAT WE WAS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO
GENERAL FUNDS. 
          THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE CAN COLLECT MORE REVENUE. 
          AND. BUT THE 20% THAT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE COMPANY,
WE CAN. 
          [03:35:02]
PEOPLE HAVE LOST JOBS. CAN WE HAVE WE LOOKED AT WAYS OF WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR US TO
HIRE FOR PEOPLE DOING THE SAME JOB AS OPPOSED TO HIRING THIS COMPANY? I MEAN, DID WE DID THAT TYPE OF COST ANALYSIS BECAUSE IF IF WE GIVE THEM 20%,
SIX, 6 MILLION, THAT'S A LOW NUMBER 1.2 MILLION. YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT COST US FOR US TO HIRE PEOPLE TO
DO THE SAME THING, GET THE SAME TECHNOLOGIES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF? OR IS THERE A COMPETING COMPANY THAT MIGHT OFFER US A BETTER RATE,
10% OR 5%? YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS COMPETITION OUT THERE,
ESPECIALLY WITH SUCH A LUCRATIVE INDUSTRY. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THOSE ARE AREAS WE SHOULD LOOK AT AS WELL. OKAY. JUST SEEING HOW WE CAN DO IT INTERNALLY AND HIRING PEOPLE LOCALLY,
PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST JOBS, AS VICE MAYOR MENTIONED IT WOULD HELP OUR LOCAL ECONOMY,
AS OPPOSED TO THESE GUYS WHO WANT TO TAKE THE BRIGHT LINE TO COME AND SEE US FOR 20%. 
          IF I MAY, I THINK THE THE INITIAL CONVERSATION WAS JUST WITH STAFF,
BUT YES, WE COULD DEFINITELY HAVE THEM REACH OUT TO YOU GUYS OR BRING THEM NEXT TIME AS WELL. MAYBE. IF. YEAH, YOU GUYS RAISED SOME GOOD POINTS ABOUT THE COMPETITION. 
          POSSIBLY. YEAH. THE PERCENTAGE NEGOTIATIONS. THESE ARE ALL GOOD QUESTIONS. THOSE ARE GOOD
QUESTIONS. AND JUST IN WHATEVER WE HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE. AND YOU KNOW I KNOW WE'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, BUT WE'RE STILL GIVING THEM 1.2 MILLION. 
          AND THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN WE CAN PROBABLY HIRE PEOPLE WHO CAN DO THE SAME JOB. 
          I MEAN, THIS DOESN'T REQUIRE AN MIT PHD IN ROCKET SCIENCE. 
          AND THE IDEA THE SERVICE IS A GOOD IDEA, YOU KNOW,
TO OBVIOUSLY RECOVER SOME OF THAT LEAN FUNDS. 
          BUT THEN ALSO REMEMBER, THERE'S A STATUTE REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE,
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY ABOUT GOING AFTER THE OLDER LIENS FIRST. YEAH, BECAUSE IT EXPIRES ONCE YOU HIT THAT 30 YEAR,
I THINK 30 YEARS, 20 YEARS, 20 YEARS, 20 YEARS. SO YOU WANT TO GO AFTER THOSE OLDER ONES,
WHICH ACTUALLY MAY HAVE MORE OF A MATURITY ON HOW MUCH FUNDS THAT THEY'RE GENERATING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN LIKE 18, 19 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY, OKAY. WELL, YEAH, I WOULD WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE
AND SEE COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES. 
          THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANKS, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I AGREE, I AGREE, I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS REALLY WELL DONE. 
          AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS HAD THE DATA TO SUPPORT BECAUSE I MEAN,
DATA ALWAYS GETS PERSPECTIVE. 
          $60 MILLION IS A TON OF MONEY. THAT IS JUST KIND OF OUTSTANDING. 
          DOES THIS INCLUDE FIRE AS WELL OR IS THIS JUST CODE? THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST BUILDING AND CODE. 
          OKAY. YEAH, BUT I, I AGREE YOU KNOW, WITH THE VICE MAYOR,
THAT ONE CITY OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS, THEIR COLLECTION EFFORTS AREN'T IMPRESSIVE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL NUMBER IS IN TERMS OF WHAT OAKLAND PARK HAS OUTSTANDING,
BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPANIES THAT DO THIS SERVICE. 
          SO IF THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN COLLECTING AND,
YOU KNOW, PICKING UP ON SOMETHING, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WORK. SO IF THERE ARE LIENS THAT ARE JUST KIND OF SITTING AND THE
CITY'S NOT RECOVERING, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE IN FINDING A WAY TO RECOVER. 
          BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPANIES THAT DO THIS SERVICE. 
          SO IF THE BEST THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN FIVE YEARS IS 1.5 MILLION,
I AGREE THAT THAT'S NOT IMPRESSIVE. 
          NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT, I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER MECHANISMS THAT WE COULD ALSO BE
USING AS A CITY, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW, DO WE LEVERAGE LIKE UTILITIES AND PERMITS WHEN THERE'S OUTSTANDING
LIENS? DO WE HOLD OFF ON NOT ISSUING NEW PERMITS? DO WE DO ANYTHING ELSE TO,
YOU KNOW, TO ADDRESS WHATEVER IS OUTSTANDING ON THE PROPERTY? BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALSO TOOLS THAT WE COULD USE. 
          I DON'T AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING COLLECTIONS. I DON'T THINK THE CITY IS IN THE
COLLECTIONS BUSINESS. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE HAVING STAFF MAKING COLD CALLS TO COLLECT ON OUTSTANDING
MONIES, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO THAT,
YOU KNOW, CREATE A HARD STOP FOR THOSE THAT HAVE OUTSTANDING LIENS. 
          YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL, I MEAN, MAYBE THEIR BUSINESS TAX CAN'T BE RENEWED UNTIL
THEY ADDRESS THE LIENS. 
          THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS, I THINK THAT ARE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW THAT WE COULD DO TO
CREATE AWARENESS AROUND THE FACT THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND NOT SUGGESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO BOTH. YOU KNOW,
TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE. 
          WE COULD BE WORKING WITH A COMPANY TO PROVIDE THESE TYPES OF SERVICES. 
          BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE
THIS, WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE SERIOUS APPROACH AS A AS AN ORGANIZATION AROUND OUR,
OUR, OUR POSITION ON VIOLATIONS AND VIOLATORS. 
          SO THE COMMISSIONER, THE REASON THAT THE STAFF IS DOING THE PRESENTATION AND NOT A
COMMERCIAL COMPANY IS WE WANT TO GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON, ON THIS, ON THIS TOPIC, ON THIS IDEA. DO WE HAVE AN INTEREST IN BEING MORE PROACTIVE IN
TERMS OF YOU KNOW TRYING TO COLLECT MORE OF THESE OUTSTANDING LEAN DOLLARS COMPARED TO HOW WE DO IT TODAY. 
          [03:40:03]
AND SO IF THERE IS AN INTEREST, WE CAN DEFINITELY PURSUE ALL THOSE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT,
THAT YOU'VE YOU BROUGHT UP AND IN TERMS OF OTHER RESTRICTIONS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU REMEMBER,
WE RECENTLY ADOPTED A CERTIFICATE OF USE PROGRAM FOR, FOR THOSE COMMERCIAL PLAZAS. SO IT PREVENTS IT,
YOU KNOW, IT PLACES A AN URGENCY ON THEIR BEHALF TO, TO YOU KNOW, COMPLY WITH THE CODE, CODE ENFORCEMENT SITUATIONS. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION. 
          CORRECT. YEAH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T FORECLOSE ON,
ON HOMESTEAD PROPERTY UNDER THE LAW, BUT I THINK COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE,
I THINK CITIES HAVE USED A TWO PRONG APPROACH WITH RESPECT LIEN COLLECTION SOMETIME ADOPTING AN AMNESTY PERIOD, ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO COME IN VOLUNTARILY TO SETTLE LANES. 
          IF THAT DOESN'T WORK AFTER THE AMNESTY PERIOD,
YOU JUST COLLECT. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S MARITAL APPROACHES TO COLLECTING OF LANES. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW FROM REVIEWING CERTAIN LIENS,
SOME OF THESE LIENS ARE COMMON AREA LIENS AND HOA, TRYING TO COLLECT COMMON AREA LIENS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM IN,
IN ANY CITY. 
          SO, SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHETHER WE CAN COLLECT THOSE LANES. 
          OKAY. YEAH. SO, SO I, I, I I GUESS WHAT I'M,
WHAT, I'M, WHAT I WOULD BE ASKING IS OKAY WITH, WITH THE LIENS THAT ARE BEING, THAT ARE BEING ISSUED OR ASSESSED,
ARE WE RECORDING THEM? ARE THEY RECORDING ON TITLE? YES. THEY'RE RECORDED. YEAH. OKAY. 
          DO WE RECOVER? IS THERE ANY RECOVERY? I WORK WITH CODE CITY ATTORNEY WORK WITH CODE AND
BUILDING. 
          WE DO COLLECT WE SETTLE THOSE LIENS BASED ON CITY MANAGEMENT RECOMMENDATION. 
          I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. SOMETIMES WE COLLECT A GENEROUS AMOUNT YEARLY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT WE WE ARE,
WE ARE SETTLING LIENS, I WOULD SAY EVERY WEEK. 
          I MEAN, STEPHANIE, YOU COULD BECAUSE WE GET THE LIEN SETTLEMENT REQUESTS. 
          SO YES. SO JUST A REACTIVE, USUALLY IT'S A REACTIVE PROCESS RATHER THAN A PROACTIVE
PROCESS. 
          USUALLY IT'S NOT UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO SELL THE PROPERTY OR DO SOMETHING THAT I THINK I
HEARD SOMEWHERE THAT WE START NEGOTIATIONS AT 10%. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT I HAVE A OR WHAT THE
COMMISSION'S PROBABLY POSTURE IS ON THIS. I MEAN, I THINK UNDER THE LAW,
THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO DO CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND SO WE DO IT. AND BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW,
IF WE DO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WE'RE SAYING THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT COMING INTO COMPLIANCE OR YOU WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND
WHATEVER THE CASE MAY HAVE BEEN ON HOW WE ARRIVED AT $60 MILLION, GIVEN SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD THROUGH BUDGET CONVERSATIONS,
THROUGH POTENTIAL LEGISLATION COMING FROM TALLAHASSEE, $60 MILLION THAT WE KNOW NOW IS SITTING OUTSTANDING. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S NOW AN OBLIGATION OF THE COMMISSION TO RESPOND. 
          SO I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT'S WHETHER OR NOT I. 
          I WANT TO DO SOMETHING. IT'S A MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO IT. 
          I, I, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE A NUMBER LIKE THAT AND SAY,
YOU KNOW, THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO MORE. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT THIS TOTAL NUMBER IS COMPRISED OF. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS HASI DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW,
IF THESE ARE INDEPENDENT. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE STAND ON THIS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THIS ARE CLOSE TO ITS
EXPIRATION. 
          I'M NOT SURE. BUT BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW,
IF WE'RE STARTING OUR MITIGATION EFFORTS AT 10%, PERHAPS WE SHOULD INCREASE ITS IT'S, IT'S NOT A 10% COMMISSION BECAUSE ANYTHING BELOW 10%, I BELIEVE REQUIRES COMMISSION APPROVAL, ANYTHING. 
          NO. SO. COMMISSIONER. YEAH. TRIGGER DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF SETTLEMENT AND THE AMOUNT OF
LIEN BASED ON THE CODE. IF I THINK I'M JUST GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          I THINK IF THE AMOUNT EXCEEDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT,
THEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMISSION. 
          I WILL JUST OBJECT COMPLETELY ON THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS A $2.8 MILLION LIEN,
WHICH MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE THAT THIS CITY SETTLED FOR $88,000. 
          DID NOT COME TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY KIND OF. 
          I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE. SO IT WAS EVEN LESS THAN 10%. 
          SO WHEN DID THAT TAKE PLACE, MAYOR? ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          OKAY. I WASN'T HERE, SO FOR 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO. 
          [03:45:01]
YEAH. IT WAS A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY. SO THE CITY. 
          SO ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT. 
          YEAH. THAT THE CITY HAS MOVED TO FORECLOSE ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THEN IT MUST GO BEFORE COMMISSION. IF WE FILE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO FORECLOSE
AGAINST THE PROPERTY, THEN THAT'S WHEN IT HAS TO GO BEFORE COMMISSION. 
          NO. WE SAID 10%. BUT ACTUALLY ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WE START AT 20 AND ON RESIDENTIAL
WE DO TEN. 
          BUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WE START AT 20. AND IF IF IT IS WE GO DOWN ON RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY, IF WE START AT 10% AND THE RESIDENT PRODUCES SOME SORT OF SOME SORT OF HARDSHIP AND THEY
COULD PROVE IT, THEN IT GOES LOWER THAN 10%. WHO DOESN'T NEGOTIATE? BUT THAT'S ONLY IF THEY COUNTEROFFER. THEY CALL THE OFFER. 
          LIKE IF THEY IF WE SAY 10% AND WE THE THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ACTUALLY. 
          SO TONY DOESN'T THE BUILDING OFFICIAL COULD SAY 10%. 
          AND IF THE RESIDENT MORE OR LESS COULD PROVE SOME SORT OF HARDSHIP. 
          DOES HE DO THEM ON ALL. I THINK NO, THE NEGOTIATION IS SUBJECT TO MANAGEMENT REVIEW. 
          DEPENDS ON. SO IT'S NOT JUST TONY AND CO. IT GOES TO MAXINE I BELIEVE ALSO IS 10% CODIFIED
DOES IT? NO. SO IF THE LIEN IS. SO YOU GUYS ARE SAYING IF SOMEONE COMES IN FOR A MITIGATION,
YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO START NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. 
          YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE START MITIGATING AT 10% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT. 
          NO, THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO. COMMISSIONER. SO WHEN THEY WHEN THEY DO A LIEN SEARCH
USUALLY HAPPENS WHEN THEY DO A LIEN SEARCH AND THEY DO A LIEN SEARCH FOR THE TITLE COMPANY AND THEY SEE THAT THEY HAVE AN OUTSTANDING LIEN. AND THEN WE PROVIDE THOSE NUMBERS TO
THEM. 
          IF THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT OF THAT LIEN IS $100,000,
WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM THAT YOU HAVE 100,000 LIEN OUT THERE. 
          THEN THAT'S WHEN THE COUNTEROFFER COMES IN. THEN THEY'LL COUNTEROFFER AND SAY,
WELL, CAN WE ASK FOR EITHER AN ABATEMENT HEARING OR AN ADMINISTRATIVE SETTLEMENT TO REDUCE THAT LIEN AMOUNT? BUT WE DON'T START OFF TELLING THEM THAT YOU ONLY HAVE TO PAY 10% OF IT. 
          WE TELL THEM WHAT THE FULL AMOUNT OF IT IS. SO BUT WHAT IS IT,
TEN AND 20 THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEN THAT'S WHEN WE DO NEGOTIATION. 
          THE TEN AND 20% COMES IN. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO ONCE WE GET TO THE POINT OF SO I KNOW, YEAH,
WE HAVE THE WE HAVE THE NUMBER, BUT THE CITY, EVERY CITY WILL MITIGATE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REDUCE IT. 
          BUT I'M SAYING IS THAT I MEAN, IF THE MAYOR IS SAYING THAT SOMEONE WAS REDUCED LOWER THAN
10%, WE CAN'T START AT 10%. SO ARE WE. AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHO,
BECAUSE THE MANAGER IS NOT REVIEWING EVERY PACKAGE, HE'S GOING TO SEE A NUMBER AND HE'S GOING TO SIGN IT. 
          I KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING. YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE NEGOTIATIONS IN HOUSE. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT 10% WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE STARTING THE NEGOTIATIONS
AT, IS THAT CODIFIED OR IS THAT AN INTERNAL RULE THAT YOU YOU GUYS ARE JUST DOING SOMETHING? OKAY. FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE PROPERTIES WITH 500 ZERO ZERO $0 LIENS ON IT,
RIGHT? FOR RESIDENTIAL. SO INSTEAD OF WE WILL TELL THEM OUT FRONT THAT YOU HAVE 500 000 LIENS
THEY WILL COME COUNTEROFFER AND THEY WILL ASK US WHAT'S THE BEST WE COULD DO FOR THEM. 
          THAT'S WHERE THE 10%, YOU SAY $50. BUT MY BUT I'M STILL NOT ANSWERING. 
          IT'S OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, BECAUSE IT'S I MEAN,
YOU COULD TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION RECENTLY, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. WHAT'S THE NAME OF. OKAY. 
          OKAY. AND THAT NEGOTIATION INVOLVED BUILDING YOUR OFFICE,
CORRECT. 
          ALSO. SO THAT'S BASICALLY A CASE BY CASE NEGOTIATION WITH SOME GUIDELINES THAT OBVIOUSLY
MANAGEMENT HAS IMPLEMENT OVER THE YEARS ADMINISTRATIVE IN TERMS OF THE FORMAT. BUT I THINK BASED ON MY KNOWLEDGE OF
SETTLEMENT, THE ONES THAT COME TO ME IS GENERALLY A CASE BY CASE. 
          YEAH, I DON'T I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COMMISSION FEELS ABOUT THAT,
BUT I THINK THAT A NO ONE WANTS TO TELL ME A STRAIGHT UP NAME ON WHO'S DOING THE NEGOTIATIONS. I DON'T CARE FOR THAT IDEA EITHER. 
          I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE THAT IS BUILDING. 
          YEAH, IT'S TONY, BUT BUILDING IS COMPRISED OF MULTIPLE PEOPLE. 
          IT HAS TO BE THE GUY BECAUSE TONY HAS TO SIGN OFF ON THE SETTLEMENT. 
          AND AND USUALLY IF HE'S SIGNING OFF, IS HE DOING THE NEGOTIATION? IS SOMEONE ELSE NEGOTIATING? AND THEN IT GOES. 
          BECAUSE LISTEN, AS A DIRECTOR AND AS A MANAGER,
YOU'RE SIGNING OFF. 
          YOU'RE NOT REVIEWING PACKAGES, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING X AND Y TOGETHER. 
          YOU RECEIVE SOMETHING FOR SIGNATURE, YOU SIGN IT AND IT GOES. 
          SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF STAFF IS DOING THESE NEGOTIATIONS AND WE HAVE $60 MILLION
OUTSTANDING, WE HAVE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PRESENTING AS A BUDGET ISSUE. 
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WE'VE GOT ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP AND WE'RE SAYING,
HEY, COMMISSION, YOU GUYS FIGURE IT OUT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH US NOT BEING CLEAR ON WHO'S ACTUALLY DOING THE NEGOTIATIONS. 
          IF 10% IS NOT CODIFIED, THEN WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT 10% IS APPROPRIATE,
GIVEN THE NUMBERS AND GIVEN OUR CURRENT BUDGETARY CIRCUMSTANCE. AND THEN I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE JUST NEED TO
FIX INTERNALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AND THEN AND THEN LOOK AT ANOTHER MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT. 
          MAYBE COLLECTIONS IS OUT. LIKE PAST COLLECTIONS MIGHT BE NECESSARY,
BUT MOVING FORWARD, ARE WE GROWING THE DEBT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PROPERLY COLLECTING MOVING FORWARD? WHAT IS OUR INTERNAL PROCESS AND IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR WHERE WE ARE TODAY? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO. I DON'T FEEL LIKE I DON'T LIKE WHEN I'M SPINNING MY
WHEELS ASKING 50 QUESTIONS. 
          DON'T PLAY POLITICS WITH ME, GUYS. BE STRAIGHT UP. 
          WHAT IS THE ISSUE SO THAT WE CAN GET TO IT. WE CAN'T COME AND SAY THAT THERE IS. 
          WE NEED AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO COLLECT WHEN INTERNALLY WE'RE NOT COLLECTING. 
          WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE DOING AND CLEAN IT UP SO THAT IT'S IT'S IT'S EFFECTIVE
MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT BUT IT'S A GRANDFATHER PROCESS FROM,
FROM THE, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW SELLING THESE LIENS AND,
AND IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO SAY, LIKE, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN DONE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW I FEEL, I KNOW, I KNOW AND COMMISSIONER LET ME ADD,
BECAUSE I, I, I COME IN WHEN I MEAN, TONY HAS COME TO ME WITH NUMBERS. 
          AND, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE NUMBERS COMING FROM HIM TALKING TO OBVIOUSLY THE VIOLATOR. 
          SO AND HE WILL TELL ME, HEY, THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE TO HIM. 
          THEN I SAID, WELL, IF IT'S NOT, YOU TAKE IT UP TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY
WANT A LOWER NUMBER THAN WHAT HE'S WILLING TO ACCEPT. 
          BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE PROCESS THE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT,
AND I THINK CODE IS INVOLVED WITH CODE LANES. 
          THOSE NUMBERS ARE SETTLEMENT NUMBERS HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. 
          WHETHER SOMEONE UNDER HIM IS TALKING TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. 
          YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT, BUT HE OR WHOEVER'S THE DEPARTMENT HEAD,
I'LL TELL YOU THIS AND NOT TO CUT YOU OFF, HANS, BUT MOST CITIES, THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T USE THE STAFF TO DO IT. 
          THEY EITHER USE THEIR FINANCE OR THEIR BUDGET DIRECTORS TO DO IT. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?
BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CONSTANTLY COME TO THE COMMISSION AND SAY THAT WE NEED MORE MONEY. SO THE STAFF IS NOT CONCERNED WITH THE BUDGETARY ISSUES. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO ALWAYS BE SUBJECTIVE AND HAVE AN OPINION OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ARE THE BEST PERSON, WHETHER THEY'RE THE BUILDING STAFF,
CODE STAFF. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE THE APPROPRIATE STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A LIEN. 
          A LIEN MANAGER IS IS CRITICAL TO THE CITY'S BUDGETARY POSTURE. 
          AND WHEN THEY'RE NOT BEING NEGOTIATED PROPERLY OR GIVEN THE PROPER CONSIDERATION,
OR THE STAFF IS NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY NO OR THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THIS FOR THIS TYPE OF AN ISSUE THAT YOU KNOW. 
          SO AND I SAY THE SAME THING CONSTANTLY. IF THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE OR OUR PROCESSES
ARE NOT PROPERLY SITUATED IN THE CITY OR IN THE ORGANIZATION, THEN WE ARE NOT DOING OUR JOBS EFFECTIVELY. 
          SO WE CAN'T WE CAN'T COME SAY WE GOT $60 MILLION OUT THERE IN LA LA LAND SOMEWHERE,
AND WE'RE NOT ENFORCING. 
          WE'RE SPINNING OUR WHEELS. IT MAKES NO SENSE. 
          AND STAFF CAN'T NEGOTIATE IF THEIR RULE OF THUMB IS ONE THING. 
          BUT THEN THEY TALK TO SOMEONE AND THEY FEEL LIKE THERE MAY BE A HARD. 
          WHAT'S THAT PROCESS? HOW DO YOU PRESENT A HARDSHIP? HOW DOES THAT PERSON KNOW THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN THAT POSITION? THERE SHOULD BE SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS NUMBERS,
WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW TO, YOU KNOW, CRITICALLY ANALYZE WHAT'S BEFORE THEM AND MAKE A DECISION. AND THAT DECISION SHOULD BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          SO THAT WAY WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR DESK AND YOU SIGN OFF ON IT,
YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS PROPERLY NEGOTIATED, NOT BASED ON FEELINGS, EMOTION, OR WHATEVER THE THE DATA HAS TO BE THE DATA,
THE NUMBERS ARE THE NUMBERS. 
          WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB INTERNALLY AS AN ORGANIZATION OF BEING EFFICIENT AND
CONSISTENT. 
          THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE. WE DON'T SEE NUMBERS LIKE THIS OTHERWISE. 
          SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT. IF WE NEED TO CODIFY WHAT THE,
YOU KNOW, MITIGATION NUMBER NEEDS TO LOOK OR PERCENTAGE NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE. 
          I HATE TO HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S ON YOU MANAGER TO LOOK AT YOUR PROCESSES
INTERNALLY. 
          THINGS BEING GRANDFATHERED, ISN'T IT? THAT'S JUST NOT THAT'S NOT HOW WE SHOULD BE DOING
BUSINESS. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S WHAT'S HERE, WHETHER IT'S WORKING OR NOT. 
          AND IF IT'S NOT WORKING, THEN WE NEED TO PRESENT OUR DIRECTORS NEED TO BE PRESENTING
ALTERNATE SOLUTIONS SO THAT WE CAN GET UP TO SPEED. 
          BUT, BUT, AND THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SIT IN STRATEGIC PLANNING OR BUDGET
WORKSHOPS, 
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AND YOU GUYS SAY, OH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. Y'ALL TELL US WHAT TO DO. NOW YOU'RE BEING
TOLD WHAT TO DO. 
          FIGURE IT OUT ON THE INSIDE, HOW TO RENEGOTIATE,
OR HOW TO PUT NUMBERS OR HOW TO COLLECT SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION NOT TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR JOBS WHEN WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR JOBS. 
          BECAUSE INSIDE I SAID THIS, GO LOOK AT THE BUDGET. 
          THERE'S ALWAYS CLEANUP MATTERS. DON'T SAY THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO CLEAN UP ON THE INSIDE
BECAUSE THERE ALWAYS IS. 
          WE'LL DO COMMISSIONER. AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE OTHER ELEMENT OF THIS LEAN
COLLECTION BUSINESS IS THAT YOU KNOW, MAJORITY OF THAT ARE OUR RESIDENTS AND THE SAME RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP WITH
THEIR HARDSHIP AND WITH THEIR OTHER YOU KNOW NEEDS AND SO HOW MUCH WE WANT TO EXERT ON, ON, ON THEM WITH THESE LEAN COLLECTIONS. 
          YEAH. BUT WHEN YOU, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE MITIGATIONS ON,
THEY'RE SELLING THEIR PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS NOT PEOPLE JUST COMING IN AND SAYING,
HEY GUYS, I'M READY TO PAY YOU NOW. 
          IT SITS FOR ALL THESE YEARS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT. 
          IT'S NOT THAT PERSON THAT'S COMING. WHEN YOU GUYS ARE DEALING WITH A MITIGATION,
YOU'RE DEALING WITH MITIGATION BECAUSE THERE'S A TRANSFER OF TITLE. 
          AND THAT TRANSFER OF TITLE HAS NOW ACTIVATED THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S OUTSTANDING AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS IT. 
          SO IT'S NOT LET'S NOT TRY TO MAKE THIS ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP. IT'S
TWO SEPARATE THINGS. 
          I HATE TO DISAGREE, BUT IT'S STILL ABOUT THE RESIDENT BECAUSE THE RESIDENT IS TRYING TO
SELL THEIR PROPERTY AND THE NEW RESIDENTS TRYING TO COME IN. 
          THAT'S OUR MARKET. THEY'RE GOING TO STILL SELL. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO SELL. IF WE'RE IF
WE'RE MITIGATING AT 5%, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO SELL. IF WE'RE MITIGATING AT 10%,
THEY'RE STILL GOING TO SELL. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING, THOUGH, IS THAT IF IT IS 10%,
IT NEEDS TO BE A CONSISTENT 10%. 
          YEAH. IT SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECTIVE TO STAFF REVIEWING AND DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT THIS OR
THAT. 
          THAT WOULD MAKE OUR LIVES SO MUCH EASIER FOR SURE. 
          YEAH. MADAM MAYOR. IT'S UP TO THIS COMMISSION TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION IF THEY WANT
PARAMETERS. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON DETERMINING CONSENSUS OR NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. 
          EVERYONE IS SAYING THEIR PIECE. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER PATTERSON IS FINISHING SAYING HER
PIECE. 
          OR ARE YOU NOT DONE YET? OKAY. COMMISSIONER DANIEL,
YOURS. 
          WE'RE BACK TO WORKSHOPS. LORD HAVE MERCY. NOW. 
          SO MY THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT MY DISTRICT, IT'S 13 MILLION. 
          REALLY? 14 MILLION, RIGHT? FOR RESIDENTS? NO. 
          START AT 10%. BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE NOTICED IS THAT,
ONE, IF PEOPLE ARE SELLING THEIR HOUSE, ONE IS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT, RIGHT. AND THEY HAVE A LIEN ARE THEY WOULD HAVE PAID
IT AND KEPT THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE MOVING TO. ONCE YOU SELL IT, YOU'RE STILL MOVING. IT'S MOVING OUT OF STATE OR OUT OF THE COUNTY. 
          YOU STILL GOT TO PAY THE SAME TYPE OF MONEY. SO NO NEGOTIATE WITH MY RESIDENTS BECAUSE I
REMEMBER ONE IN PARTICULAR 10% WASN'T EVEN WHAT THE ORIGINAL COST WAS FOR THE CODE VIOLATION. 
          SO THIS IS ALL FLUFF MONEY TO GET THEM TO DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          IT'S NOT TO HURT THEM. I KNOW WE NEED TO MAKE MONEY. 
          AND I'M THE FIRST ONE SAYING, OH, COME UP WITH INNOVATIVE WAYS,
BUT NOT ON THE BACK OF MY RESIDENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME. MOST OF THESE PLACES BECAUSE THE AND I'LL BE THE
FIRST TO SAY, I JUST EMAIL YOU REMINDING YOU TO GO OUT COLD BECAUSE THEY WANT CODE TO COME OUT. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS NEIGHBOR WANT CODE TO COME OUT. 
          THIS ONE CAN'T, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          SO IT'S ALWAYS ON THE BACK OF THE RESIDENTS. SO YES,
NEGOTIATE AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE THAT $60 MILLION TO HIRE THE VICE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR TO COME UP WITH A COMPANY TOGETHER AND COLLECT THIS MONEY. 
          AND THAT'S JUST A JOKE. NO, THIS IS AFTER THEY LEAVE THE COMMISSION,
GUYS, BECAUSE THEY BOTH TURNED OUT, I THINK, AFTER A MINUTE. BUT. NO, NO, NO, DON'T HURT ME. 
          DO NOT HURT MY RESIDENTS BECAUSE TABLES TURN AND THAT MIGHT BE ME. 
          DO NOT DO IT. SO PLEASE NEGOTIATE. THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT POINT IS WELL TAKEN, MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY,
THAT YOU KNOW THE ORIGINAL. 
          FINE. MAYBE A DOLLAR AND THEN WE HAVE DAILY YOU KNOW DAILY FINES JUST BUILD ON TOP OF THAT
DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. 
          AND THEN SOMETIME ONE RESIDENTS WHO PARTICULAR I KEEP SENDING OUT,
THERE'S MENTAL ISSUES, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THERE THERE'S YEAH,
I BET YOU DO. 
          THE ONE THAT YOU HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH AND YOU DIDN'T FORECLOSE IT COMPLETELY WHEN YOU
SHOULD HAVE AND COULD HAVE. AND SO NOW IT'S HOMESTEAD. 
          IT'S BEEN HOMESTEAD. THERE COMES THAT PART WHERE THE POINT WAS FOR THEM TO FIX THE
VIOLATION. 
          IT WASN'T FOR US TO BECOME MILLIONAIRES. IT'S FOR THEM TO FIX THE VIOLATION. 
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SO HOW CAN WE GET THEM TO FIX THE VIOLATION AND WORK WITH THEM? AND THESE AREN'T BUSINESS. NOW. BUSINESS HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER. 
          BUT WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTS KNOW, HELP THEM FIX THE VIOLATION. 
          WE'RE COMING UP WITH ALL THESE GRANTS AND PROGRAMS TO HELP THEM,
HELP THEM, NOT HURT THEM, NOT MAKE SOMEBODY WANT TO GO JUMP OFF A BUILDING LIKE WE'RE NOT MEANING. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN'T PAY YOUR BILLS. TRUST ME, THAT'S STRESS AND DEPRESSION. OH YEAH. 
          I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU. YEAH, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING THERE. 
          SO THANK YOU. I THINK THIS WAS AN AWESOME PRESENTATION,
BY THE WAY. 
          I WAS KIND OF LIKE, WHOA, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          BUT THEN WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YEAH, IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. SO READ YOUR EMAIL,
PLEASE. 
          I GOT ANOTHER RESIDENT COMPLAINT. SO THERE'S A FEW FACETS IN HERE,
RIGHT? WE'RE NOT THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT US TALKING ABOUT HOW NEGOTIATIONS ARE DONE AND HOW TO
HANDLE THE MITIGATION. 
          THAT'S A DIFFERENT TANGENT OF WHATEVER. BUT THE POINT IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING AFTER
THE LIENS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT ON PROPERTY. 
          AND I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE. WELL, IT'S BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. 
          WE DID AN AMNESTY PROGRAM. WE'VE DONE AMNESTY PROGRAM SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION.
SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT THAT FAR AWAY THAT WE'VE DONE AMNESTY PROGRAM. IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WHEN WE WANT TO HAVE THEM. AND I DO KNOW THROUGH COVID,
WHEN THERE WASN'T MUCH GOING ON, THERE WAS SOMEBODY SITTING AT THE COMPUTER GOING, LET'S SEND THIS PERSON A LETTER. LET'S SEND THIS PERSON A LETTER,
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T CLOSE OUT THEIR POOL PERMIT, THEY DIDN'T CLOSE OUT THIS. AND THESE ARE WHERE THE LIENS ARE COMING FROM FOR SOME OF OUR RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO THEN WHEN THAT SAME PERSON HASN'T CLOSED OUT THEIR POOL PERMIT,
AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE CRYING TO ANY ONE OF THE FIVE OF US OR ALL FIVE OF US, WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU AND CRYING ON THEIR BEHALF SAYING,
PLEASE, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PENALIZING THEM. 
          WE'RE SUPPOSED TO JUST GETTING THEM INTO COMPLIANCE. SO WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHICH
WAY ARE WE REALLY GOING, RIGHT? FOR THE ONES THAT ARE 20 YEARS OLD OR ALMOST 20 YEARS OLD. 
          ARE THEY LIVING IN THE PROPERTY? THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE FINDING OUT.
ARE THEY STILL LIVING IN THE PROPERTY? IS IT IS IT CHANGED HANDS? AND THE PERSON DIDN'T EVEN KNOW BECAUSE LOOKING AT IT AS SNAPSHOT FOR TODAY IS NOT THE SAME WAY AS A CLOSING
TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY, RIGHT? I'VE BEEN DOING CLOSINGS FOR ALMOST 26 YEARS,
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU LIEN SEARCHES WERE NOT DONE IN THE SAME CAPACITY AS THEY'RE DONE OVER THE PAST 10 OR 15 YEARS. SO PEOPLE MAY HAVE BOUGHT THEIR HOMES AND NOT KNOWN IT. 
          CITIES MAY HAVE BEEN REACHED OUT. MAYBE THEY WEREN'T REACHED OUT. 
          RIGHT. THERE WEREN'T THESE ORANGE DATA SOLUTIONS OR PROSPECTS AND LEAN,
LEAN SEARCH COMPANIES LIKE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE NOW AND WE CAN'T USE THAT AS, OH, WE'RE DOING IT THE SAME WAY BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT
REALLY, REALLY. THINGS ARE MODERNIZING. BUT I DO LEAN SETTLEMENT REQUESTS BECAUSE IN MY JOB,
I HAVE TO. 
          AND THERE'S A PROCESS. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT OF 10% OF THIS. 
          IT'S OKAY. IT'S ON A BUILDING. YOU'RE A COMMON ELEMENT. 
          YOU PAY THIS PART OF IT AND WE RELEASE YOU. SO SOME OF THIS HERE,
AS GOOD AS THE PRESENTATION IS, FORGIVE ME. IT'S LUMPING A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER. 
          IT'S LUMPING OLD COMMERCIAL. IT'S LUMPING HOMESTEAD AND NON-HOMESTEAD,
WHERE THERE MAY BE A BIT OF A DIFFERENCE ON HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO WHERE WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A THIRD PARTY DOING IT. 
          PERSONALLY, I'M NOT FOR THIRD PARTIES TAKING CARE OF THIS STUFF BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW
OUR HOMEOWNERS. 
          I KNOW IT GIVES US THAT BUFFER, HIRE SOME PART TIME PEOPLE TO DO IT,
AND THEY GET PAID OUT OF THE PROCEEDS THAT EVENTUALLY BE GAINED FROM IT, OR COMING UP WITH SOME KIND OF COMBINATION PLATE PROGRAM. 
          WITH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING NOW,
ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE KNOW A PERMIT IS OUT THERE, THAT SOMEONE'S CALLING THEM IN SIX MONTHS TO REMIND THEM THAT THEIR PERMIT IS EXPIRING? ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO MITIGATE THE FUTURE LIENS THAT ARE ACCRUING ON OUR PROPERTIES? MAY I. YES. JUST RECENTLY WE HAD A INITIATIVE WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT TO FLAG ALL PERMITS
THAT ARE MORE THAN 180 DAYS IN OUR SYSTEM THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY SEND AN EMAIL TO THE HOMEOWNER,
THE RESIDENT, THE CONTRACTOR, AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE'S A PERMIT THAT IS OPEN IN OUR SYSTEM FOR
MORE THAN 180 DAYS, AND THEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO EITHER EXTEND THAT PERMIT,
OR ARE WE GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY CLOSE IT TO PREVENT THESE TYPE OF LIENS FROM HAPPENING? SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A 60 DAY AND A 90 DAY NOTICE THAT GOES OUT AND AT 180
DAYS. 
          SO THREE TIMES IN THE CYCLE, A NOTICE WILL GO OUT TO TELL THEM THERE'S AN OPEN PERMIT IN
OUR SYSTEM. 
          AND THIS ONLY GOES TO THE CONTRACTOR DOESN'T GO TO THE HOMEOWNER. WELL,
WHOEVER REQUESTS THE PERMIT, 
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I STILL HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH THINGS GOING TO A CONTRACTOR AND NOT THE HOMEOWNER BECAUSE
AGAIN, THE HOMEOWNER MAY NOT HAVE A CLUE THAT CONTRACTOR MAY HAVE BEEN PAID. 
          THE CONTRACTOR TELLS THE HOMEOWNER EVERYTHING IS FINE,
RESIDENT IS THINKING EVERYTHING IS FINE. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GET BLAM! YOU'RE GETTING HIT IN THE HEAD
WITH A LETTER SAYING YOU'VE GOT $10,000 IN LIENS BECAUSE. 
          AND WHAT IF THE CONTRACTOR IS NO LONGER IN BUSINESS ANYMORE? I KIND OF AGREE. OH MY GOD. SORRY. I'M TRYING TO HAVE FUN. 
          IF I, IF I MAY, YOU KNOW, SOME RESIDENTS TO LIKE WHEN THEY GET A,
WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A PERMIT, LIKE A BUILDING PERMIT THEY CALL US AND THEY'RE COMPLAINING THAT. 
          WHY IS THIS NOT DONE? WHY IS THAT NOT DONE? AND THEN WHEN WE DO THE RESEARCH,
THE CONTRACTOR WAS SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETHING ALWAYS. 
          AND THEN IT BLAMES THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AS WELL. 
          SO IN MY JOB AS A COURT MEDIATOR, RIGHT, I HAVE THESE WHEN,
WHEN A CASE HAS MY, MY EMAIL ON IT, EVERYBODY GETS EMAILED. SO THE ATTORNEYS GET EMAILED,
I GET EMAILED THE, THE, THE DEFENDANT, THE PLAINTIFF, EVERYBODY. SO MAYBE IF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS A SYSTEM LIKE THAT,
PUT THE RESIDENTS INFORMATION THERE TOO. 
          SO WHEN THE CONTRACTOR GETS AN EMAIL, OR IF THERE'S A LIEN OR ANYTHING THAT GOES ON,
ON THAT PROPERTY, EVERYBODY IS NOTIFIED. THIS HAS BEEN. CAN THAT HAPPEN? IT CAN. ALL RIGHT. SO THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS SET UP,
IT ALLOWS FOR ONE EMAIL FOR A PARTICULAR REASON. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DISTRIBUTION. SO I WILL HAVE TO GET THE IT DEPARTMENT TO SEE
IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THE WAY THAT IS STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW, IT'S ONE EMAIL FOR FOR A PARTICULAR REASON. 
          IF WE HAVE MULTIPLE EMAILS ON IT AND THAT PERSON GETS THE TASK TO UPLOAD DOCUMENTS,
IF YOU SEND THAT EMAIL OUT TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE, ANYBODY IN THAT EMAIL CYCLE COULD UPLOAD A DOCUMENT AND MESS UP THE WHOLE
PERMIT. 
          SO BUT TO MAKE IT AS THIS IS THE MANDATORY, THIS IS JUST CC,
FORGIVE ME, BUT COMPUTERS AND PROGRAMS ARE MADE BY PEOPLE AND THEY'RE AS GOOD AS THE PROGRAMMERS. AND YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THIS, I'VE BEEN WISHING ABOUT THIS ONE ALMOST AS LONG
AS I'VE BEEN WISHING ABOUT THE OTHER THING EARLIER THIS MORNING. THERE'S NO REASON WHY A COMPUTER PROGRAM CAN'T SAY, HERE'S ACCESS TO ONE PERSON. 
          YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS REALLY THE REPRESENTATIVE. 
          THEY HAVE TO SIGN ON THE AFFIDAVIT OF PERMIT. 
          YES. SO BECAUSE OF THAT OWNERSHIP INTEREST THEY SHARED. 
          AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, TALK TO IT. JAMES TRIGGER YES,
THEY SHOULD GET COPIES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE GC CAN'T COME IN THERE WITHOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER SIGNING. 
          WE HAVE TO TALK TO I HAVE TO TALK TO JIM ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE OPERATE IN A WORKFLOW. 
          ALL RIGHT. AND THE WORKFLOW IN ORDER TO GET FROM A TO Z IN THE WORKFLOW,
THERE'S A PROCESS. 
          AND THAT EMAIL THAT YOU PUT IN THAT WORKFLOW IS THE ONE WHO GETS THE TASK TO RESPOND TO. 
          SO HERE'S THE THING. SEND THAT EMAIL TO WHOEVER YOU NEED TO SEND IT TO. 
          SEND IT TO YOURSELF. AND WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR COMPUTER AND YOUR OUTLOOK,
THEN YOU EMAIL IT TO THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE FILE. 
          IT CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS THAT. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE JAMES HERE. 
          WE COULD ASK HIM. SOME OF IT DOES HAVE TO BE MANUAL. 
          GUESS WHAT? NOT EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD IS GOING TO WIND UP BEING AUTOMATED. 
          IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE A HUMAN BEING TO DO IT. 
          SO ANYWAY, GETTING BACK TO THESE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES,
PLUS THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE NOT EVEN PERMIT ITEMS. IT'S LANDSCAPING. YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT TO PUT DOWN THE GREEN,
PUT DOWN THE GRASS RIGHT AND MOW YOUR LAWN OR WATER YOUR LAWN. 
          SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE COME INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          THEY THINK THEY'RE DONE, BUT YET THEY DIDN'T GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY TO SAY,
SEE, I HAVE NO MORE BROWN PATCHES. 
          MY GRASS IS BEAUTIFULLY GREEN. CITY DOESN'T ALWAYS AUTOMATICALLY GO BACK OUT THERE AT THE
SAME TIME YOU GO BACK OUT, BUT THEY MIGHT CALL YOU AND SAY, I NEED A FEW MORE DAYS,
RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY, BUT NOW WE ENSURE THAT WE DO. 
          SO IF A, IF A CLIENT IS RUNNING A $100 A DAY AND THEY DIDN'T COME INTO COMPLIANCE,
THEY MAY HAVE REMOVED THAT DERELICT VEHICLE, THEY MAY HAVE CUT THAT OVERGROWN GRASS. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST EVERY 30 DAYS OR
MORE OR LESS, I'M SORRY THAT WE'RE GOING BACK OUT TO DO A RE INSPECTION,
WHETHER THEY CALL US OR NOT, EVEN THOUGH THE NOTIFICATION SAYS ON THERE THAT YOU NEED TO CONTACT THE CODE OFFICER WHEN YOU COME INTO COMPLIANCE,
WE STILL DON'T RELY ON THAT. 
          WE STILL DO INSPECTIONS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE CAME INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          AND THEN WE'LL STOP THE FINES FROM ACCRUING ONCE THEY'VE CAME INTO COMPLIANCE. BUT YOU
STOPPED THE FINES FROM ACCRUING. AND HOMEOWNER MAY KNOW THAT STOPPED. 
          BUT HOMEOWNERS NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT,
THEY NOW HAVE TO PAY IT. SO NOW THAT $500 IS STILL SITTING ON THERE AND AGING AND AGING AND AGING. I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS A GLOBAL ITEM FOR THINGS THAT HAVE SOME DEFINITE OWN
PATHWAYS THAT 
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WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IN A DIFFERENT MANNER THAT RIGHT NOW,
I DON'T SEE GOING TO THIS DATA COMPANY TO DO SO, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IN-HOUSE FIRST HOW TO HANDLE THIS,
BUT WE SEND THEM A FILE, WE DO SEND THEM A FINAL ORDER SHOWING THAT AND THAT IF THEY HAVEN'T CAME INTO COMPLIANCE, WE SEND THEM THE FINAL ORDER,
TELLING THEM THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE LEAN BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS OUTSTANDING AMOUNT. SO THEY GET NOTIFICATIONS WHETHER THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE OR NOT. 
          AND SOME OF THEM PAY ATTENTION AND THEN SOME OF THEM CONTACT US. 
          SOME OF THEM DON'T PAY ATTENTION, SOME OF THEM,
SOMEBODY ELSE READ THE MAIL. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE EXCUSES FOR EVERYTHING,
RIGHT? RIGHT. I WASN'T HOME FOR TWO WEEKS, I WENT AWAY, I MISSED IT, THE DOG ATE IT. OR LEGITIMATELY. 
          THEY'RE RENTING OUT THE PROPERTY AND THE TENANT GOT IT. 
          AND THEY DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT FOR WHATEVER THE REASON BEING,
WHICH IS THEN WHAT COMES INTO THE LIEN SETTLEMENT SITUATION. 
          BUT YOU HAVE PROBABLY MORE LIEN SETTLEMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL UNITS IN A CONDO BUILDING
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CONDOS ARE WORKING ON ITS COMMON AREA ITEMS THAT MY PERSONAL UNIT CAN'T BE
CHARGED $10 MILLION FOR THE FACT THAT THE ASSOCIATION'S LIENS HAVE GONE ON FOR SO LONG. PLUS, WE HAVE LIENS ACCRUING. 
          I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON IT. AND I, YOU KNOW,
HOPEFULLY IT'S BEEN RESOLVED. 
          I HAVE TO REDO MY DRIVEWAY. RIGHT. YOU TELL ME I HAVE 30 DAYS TO DO IT,
BUT I NEED IT TAKES ME 2 TO 3 MONTHS TO GET THREE PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND GIVE ME MY QUOTES. AND THEN IT TAKES THEM TIME TO GET THE PERMIT. 
          AND THEN IT TAKES SOME TIME TO DO THIS, WHICH ALL WINDS UP BEING ACCRUAL OF ITEMS IN ON
THE DATABASE OF HOW MANY DAYS ARE LATE AND THEN EQUALS MONEY OR EQUALS PEOPLE COMING BACK TO YOU AND SAYING, I NEED 30 MORE DAYS OR I NEED 60 MORE DAYS. 
          AND THEN IT PUTS PRESSURE BETWEEN CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT,
BECAUSE BUILDING DEPARTMENTS ARE THE ONE THAT HAS TO GIVE THE PERMITS. AND SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ALL. IF OUR CYCLE HAS BEEN FIXED YET TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
COMMUNICATION SITUATION IS BETTER. 
          SO WE HAVE LESS THAN $60 MILLION OR WHAT DOES IT WIND UP,
225, 30 CASES OR SOMETHING? YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND NOT ALL OUR BUILDING CODE LINES ARE THE SAME AS COMPLIANCE LIENS,
RIGHT? SO WHILE IT'S WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. 
          REALIZING THOUGH, THAT THESE ARE OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HURTING AFTERWARDS. 
          AND THEN IF WE SAY, OH, IT'S EASY, WE'LL TAKE THEIR MONEY AT CLOSING. AS COMMISSIONER
DANIEL SAID, THEY'RE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE ANYMORE. SO NOW WE'RE
TAKING THAT EQUITY. AND IF WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT EQUITY BACK ON THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM TO GIVE THEM THE EQUITY, THEN I THINK WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE TWIST IN THERE
THAT CAUSES AN ISSUE. 
          ANYWAY, I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE YOUR CONSENSUS OF NO CONSENSUS FOR THIS AT THIS TIME. 
          BUT YOU WANT, YOU GOT, YOU GOT A HEADACHE. I SEE YOU HOLDING YOUR HEAD. 
          SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WOULD ASK THAT THEY GO BACK TO THE COMPANY,
ASK FOR MORE INFORMATION BASED ON DISCUSSION. 
          NUMBER TWO, LOOK AT OTHER COMPANIES THAT MAY PROVIDE SIMILAR SERVICE AND COMPARE THEM. 
          AND THREE, LOOK AT IF WE CAN START A TEMPORARY DEPARTMENT OFFERING THIS KIND OF SERVICE
AND FIND OUT WHAT THE FISCAL IMPACT IS VERSUS HIRING A THIRD PARTY. 
          OKAY. AND ALONG THOSE LINES, I WOULD BIFURCATE IT,
HOWEVER YOU NEED TO DO IT BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THESE LIENS ARE THE SAME, RIGHT? RIGHT. IF YOU DON'T MIND. ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT IS. 
          252. MEETING ADJOURNED. WE'LL SEE YOU WEDNESDAY NIGHT AT 7 P.M.,
AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TAMARAC UNIVERSITY GRADUATION. 
          WOO HOO! THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.