Feb 23, 2026 Workshop

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO OUR FEBRUARY 23RD WORKSHOP.

[Call to Order]

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

MAYOR GOMEZ. GOOD MORNING, VICE MAYOR BOLTON COMMISSIONER.

RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. COMMISSIONER DANIEL, GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND, I WILL LEAD THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TODAY AND ASK FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE THEREAFTER.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. ALRIGHTY.

FIRST UP TO THE PLATE, WE HAVE OUR INVESTMENT POLICY ENHANCEMENT.

[1.a. Investment Policy Enhancements Scott Stitcher and Lili Arnsdorff, Chandler Asset Management ]

SORRY FOR PRONOUNCING YOUR NAMES WRONG OF CHANDLER ASSET MANAGEMENT.

AND WE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR, CHRISTINE CAJUSTE.

I GUESS MISS LILLY IS NOT HERE TODAY. OKAY. IT'S ALL GOOD.

SHE'S JUST GOING TO MISS OUR PARTY, THAT'S ALL. EXCELLENT.

PLEASE PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. IT'S NICE TO BE HERE WITH YOU, WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT WARMER THAN WHERE I CAME FROM.

I CAME FROM ATLANTA. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S ACTUALLY CHILLY THERE.

YEAH. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE THE INVESTMENT POLICY ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED. I'VE PUT TOGETHER JUST A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO OUTLINE SORT OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, AND THEN SOME OF THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING.

AND THEN I'LL RUN THROUGH THOSE FEW PAGES WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, IF THAT'S OKAY.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE TWO, THAT THESE ARE THE MAIN DRIVERS OF OUR OUR POLICY REVIEW AND THE FRAMEWORK FOR. OH, OKAY. GOOD.

NOT. TURNING IT THE OTHER WAY AND SEE IF. YEAH.

TRY THAT. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THESE ARE THESE ARE THE MAJOR AREAS OF FOCUS WHEN WE, WE REVIEW INVESTMENT POLICIES AND WHEN WE RECOMMEND ENHANCEMENTS AND, AND WHEN WE WRITE INVESTMENT POLICIES, FOR THAT MATTER. AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE LOOK AT FLORIDA STATE STATUTES TO DRIVE THAT SORT OF CONVERSATION AND REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT, FOLLOWED BY TWO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, THE ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC TREASURERS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA, AS WELL AS THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, THE ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC TREASURERS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.

THEY'RE THE TWO OF THE TWO OF THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING COME FROM THEM.

THEY'RE ITEM FIVE AND SIX ON THE NEXT PAGE THEY RECOMMEND THE INCLUSION OF A GLOSSARY OF INVESTMENT TERMS AS WELL AS A QUESTIONNAIRE. WHEN CONSIDERING A MONEY MARKET FUND OR A LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE INCLUSION OF THOSE TWO ITEMS IN THE POLICY.

ADDITIONALLY, I'LL JUST ADD THAT THE APTT OF US AND SEE ALSO OFFERS A POLICY CERTIFICATION PROGRAM.

SO WHAT YOU CAN DO IS AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR POLICY IN ORDER, YOU CAN SUBMIT IT TO TO THEM FOR A SMALL FEE.

THEY'LL REVIEW YOUR POLICY AND JUST CONFIRM THAT IT INCLUDES THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF A WELL WRITTEN INVESTMENT POLICY, AND THEN SEND YOU A CERTIFICATION. IF YOU DON'T PASS, THEY'LL RECOMMEND CHANGES TO MAKE.

YOU CAN DO THAT. RESUBMIT. AND AGAIN, ULTIMATELY YOU'LL RECEIVE THAT POLICY CERTIFICATION.

SIR SCOTT, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY WOULD IT BE MORE PRUDENT FOR US TO SUBMIT THAT POLICY AHEAD OF REQUESTING APPROVAL? I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK SO, BECAUSE IF THEY MAKE SOME REVISIONS OR IF THEY SUGGEST SOME REVISIONS, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO WELL, I PERSONALLY, I THINK

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IT MAKES IT EASIER THEN THE VOLLEY BACK AND FORTH IN CASE WE WE THINK WE KNOW SOMETHING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY PROPER AND THEN WIND UP PUTTING A POLICY IN THERE AND HAVE YOU BOUNCE BACK. BUT I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT IF WE TAKE THESE STEPS TODAY THAT YOU'D STAND A VERY GOOD CHANCE OF CERTIFICATION WHEN THE TIME COMES. AND AGAIN, IT'S A SMALL FEE, BUT IT'S IT'S MINIMAL, BUT IT'S GOOD.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE AN EXTRA SET OF EYES. SO WHENEVER SOMEBODY SAYS IT'S MINIMAL AND IT'S NOMINAL, IT'S ALWAYS RELATIVE. I THINK IT'S $250 OR LESS.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT IT'S YEAH, IT'S NOT NOT ADDING A BUNCH OF ZEROS TO THE END OF THAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT. EXACTLY. OKAY. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, TOO, THAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DESIGNED TO DO A NUMBER OF THINGS IMPROVE RISK MANAGEMENT, ENHANCE POTENTIAL RETURNS, INCREASE CLARITY, AND INCORPORATE, AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, SOME OF THE INDUSTRY INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES.

SO I WANT TO STRESS THAT THE CONTROLS AND SAFEGUARDS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN IN PLACE WILL REMAIN.

WE'RE JUST MAKING SOME ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS AGAIN, TO KIND OF BRING YOU INTO THE 21ST CENTURY.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT THERE'S JUST BEEN SOME RECENT LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED THAT WE'RE AGAIN RECOMMENDING THAT YOU INCORPORATE IN THAT THAT LEGISLATION IMPACTED STATE STATUTE 218 .415, WHICH IS THE STATUTE THAT GOVERNS THE INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC FUNDS.

AND THAT'S THE FIRST ITEM YOU SEE THERE, THE INCLUSION OF WHAT'S CALLED INVESTMENT DECISIONS LANGUAGE.

WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THE INCLUSION OF SUPERNATIONALS AND COLLATERALIZED MORTGAGE OBLIGATIONS TO, AGAIN, ENHANCE DIVERSIFICATION AND POTENTIALLY INCREASE INVESTMENT RETURNS AND YIELD.

AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS ARE REALLY, I WOULD CALL THEM VERY MINOR.

JUST THE RECOMMENDATION OF CHANGING THE LANGUAGE FROM PURCHASE DATE TO SETTLEMENT DATE, INCREASING THE ALLOWABLE MAXIMUM MATURITY FROM FIVE YEARS TO FIVE AND A QUARTER YEARS. INCORPORATING WEIGHTED AVERAGE LIFE, WHICH IS MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF A COUPLE OF SECTORS THAT YOU UTILIZE ASSET BACKED SECURITIES AND MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES AS OPPOSED TO STATING FINAL MATURITY.

AND THEN WE'VE UPDATED REQUIREMENTS FOR RATING REQUIREMENTS FOR MUNICIPALS FROM WHAT WAS A DOUBLE A STANDARD TO SINGLE A STANDARD.

AND THAT'S MAINLY BASED ON THE CHANGE THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN THE MUNICIPAL MARKET.

WHEREAS THERE ARE MANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO INVEST IN THE SINGLE A SPACE THAN DOUBLE A SPACE TODAY, THAN THERE ONCE WAS. SO WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY SET IN WHICH YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO INVEST.

AND THEN LASTLY, I'LL FINISH ON THE NEXT PAGE ITEMS THREE AND FOUR, WHERE WE'RE PUTTING CAPS ON THE PERCENTAGE OF CALLABLE AGENCY SECURITIES THAT YOU CAN INVEST IN JUST TO MITIGATE MARKET RISKS.

SO WE'RE PUTTING A MAX LIMIT OF 20% THERE. AND THEN WE'VE INCREASED THE EXCUSE ME.

THE MAXIMUM ALLOCATION INDIVIDUAL ISSUER LIMIT FOR AGENCIES IN THE SECTOR.

LIMIT FROM CORPORATES FOR CORPORATES IN THE AGENCY SPACE FROM 25 TO 35%, IN CORPORATES FROM 20 TO 25%.

AND THEY WERE REDUCING THE INDIVIDUAL ISSUER LIMIT FOR COMMERCIAL PAPER.

AGAIN, JUST TO REDUCE CONCENTRATION RISK IN COMMERCIAL PAPER ISSUERS FROM 10% TO 5%.

WE'VE ALSO RECOMMENDED PUTTING A BAND AROUND THE PORTFOLIO DURATION, WHICH DURATION SERVES AS THE INTEREST RATE SENSITIVITY OF YOUR PORTFOLIO, AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING PUTTING A PLUS OR -10% BAND AROUND THE PORTFOLIO'S DURATION JUST TO KEEP FROM TAKING UNWANTED INTEREST RATE RISK IN THE PORTFOLIO. SO I'VE THROWN A LOT AT YOU THERE.

WHERE CAN WE GO IN THE WAY OF QUESTIONS OR FOR MORE CLARIFICATION? WELL, I WILL ASK FOR THE ITEM OF. IT DOESN'T AFFECT B1B RIGHT.

SO WE CAN PRESIDENT QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER. YEAH.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. COMPARED TO WHERE WE STAND NOW, THE SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE, IS IT GOING TO MAKE US MAKE A BETTER RETURN OR ARE YOU JUST STABILIZING WHAT WE GET. THE POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR GREATER RETURN.

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SO, YEAH, THE GOAL IS YES TO, TO INCREASE RETURN AND YIELD.

WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THAT THE POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR THAT TO OCCUR.

BUT A LOT OF THE SUGGESTIONS ARE ALSO TO HELP MITIGATE RISK.

SO TO PUT SOME THAT'S WHY I ASKED CAUSES IT TO MAKE US SAFER.

YES, DEFINITELY. THAT IS THE GOAL AT THE END OF THE DAY.

IT'S SAFER. SO SAFETY OVER THE AMOUNT OF RETURN WE GET.

RIGHT, RIGHT. SAFETY AND LIQUIDITY ARE ALWAYS PARAMOUNT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE WAY THE STATE STATUTES ARE WRITTEN. THAT'S THE WAY YOUR POLICY IS WRITTEN. SO THAT'S OUR GOAL AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND THEN BY THE INCLUSION OF SOME OF THESE SECTORS, THE THIRD ITEM IS IS RETURN POTENTIAL TO EARN SOME ATTRACTIVE YIELD.

HOW ARE WE DOING NOW COMPARED TO WHAT YOUR SUGGESTION WILL YIELD.

YEAH THAT'S THAT'S HARD TO SAY REALLY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE REALLY NOT ABLE TO SAY THE CURSE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL THAT WILL TELL US THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING WELL TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT PERFORMANCE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE ONLY BEEN IN PLACE FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS, BUT IT'S BEEN A GOOD YEAR FOR FIXED INCOME INVESTORS.

AND YOUR RETURNS DO LOOK ATTRACTIVE RELATIVE TO YOUR BENCHMARK.

THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

YOU'RE WELCOME. QUESTION. DEFINE A SUPRANATIONAL.

YEAH, SURE. GIVE ME GIVE GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A COMPANY THAT'S A SUPRANATIONAL.

SURE. SO I THINK THE MOST COMMON SUPRANATIONAL THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF IS, IS THE WORLD BANK.

SO SUPERNATIONALS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, ARE BANKS.

ALL RIGHT. THEY ARE MULTINATIONAL ORGANIZATION, ARE FORMED BY MEMBER NATIONS THAT PUT UP CAPITAL AND ALSO SERVE TO, TO RUN THAT PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION.

SO THE WORLD TRADE I'M SORRY, THE WORLD BANK IS THE BEST EXAMPLE THAT I HAVE THERE.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE DESIGNED REALLY TO PROMOTE REGIONAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND THERE THERE ARE, SUPER NATIONALS AROUND THE WORLD.

WE'RE ONLY SUGGESTING TO UTILIZE THOSE THAT ARE BASED IN THE US AND ARE DOLLAR DENOMINATED.

OKAY, SO DOLLAR DENOMINATED BASED IN THE US. I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT DEFINITION OF THAT.

SO CMO, CMO YES, IS A COLLATERALIZED MORTGAGE OBLIGATION.

AND IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A TRUE MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITY IN THAT THE IT'S THE UNDERLYING COLLATERAL IS MORTGAGE BACKED, BUT SOMEONE TAKES AND, AND KIND OF SLICES THOSE MORTGAGE BACKS INTO TRANCHES BY MATURITY OR INCOME OR CREDIT QUALITY. AND SO QUESTION. SO IF MY RECOLLECTION SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THE 2008 ECONOMIC CRISIS, THE GREAT RECESSION, WAS IN THE UNDERLYING ISSUE.

MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES. REMEMBER LEHMAN BROTHERS AND ALL THOSE BANKS THAT ARE IT WAS.

ULTIMATELY, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY IT WAS MORTGAGE BACKS, BUT THE THE REAL ISSUE WAS THE LACK OF DOCUMENTATION AND REVIEW OF THE BORROWERS, YOU KNOW, GETTING MORTGAGE MORTGAGES.

SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND THESE MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES? AREN'T THEY MORE RISKY? THESE ARE GOVERNMENT SPONSORED AGENCY MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES.

SO THEY'RE GUARANTEED BY THE GOVERNMENT. THE ISSUE IS THAT FANNY.

FANNY, FANNIE AND FREDDIE MAC OR. BUT THEY HAD THEY HAD ISSUES DURING 2008 ECONOMIC CRISIS AS WELL.

THEY HAD ISSUES BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING UNDER THE UNDERWRITERS WERE NOT DOING THEIR PART, DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND UNDERWRITING MORTGAGES. BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE THAT GOVERNMENT BACKED, YOU KNOW, GUARANTEED BACKING WITH FANNIE AND FREDDIE THAT MAKES THESE.

SO THESE ARE SO YOU'RE SAYING THESE ARE MORE THESE ARE RISKIER INVESTMENTS THAT WILL BE WILL WILL BE ADDING IN TERMS OF OUR PORTFOLIO.

NO, I WOULD I WOULD NOT CLASSIFY THEM AS RISKIER THAN OKAY.

JUST JUST NO DEFINITELY NOT. IF ANYTHING SAFER THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE CREDIT QUALITY.

SAME WITH SUPERNATIONALS. SUPERNATIONALS BECAUSE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE NATIONS THAT ARE PUTTING UP CAPITAL.

YOU'LL FIND THAT THESE SUPERNATIONALS, IN A LOT OF CASES ARE BETTER CAPITALIZED THAN THE LARGEST BANKS IN THE UNITED STATES.

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SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE US IS A SHAREHOLDER AND VOTING MEMBER THAT CARRIES A DOUBLE A+ RATING.

SUPERNATIONALS THEMSELVES CARRY THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE INVESTED IN CARRY A TRIPLE A RATING, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE US IS NOT GOING IT ALONE.

THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE PROVIDING CAPITAL, SO ONLY TRIPLE A ANY ONLY TRIPLE TRIPLE A.

THAT'S CORRECT. CLARIFYING THAT, YOU ALSO MENTIONED CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. MORE OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN A THAN DOUBLE A BONDS, RIGHT? IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. MORE OPPORTUNITY TO EMPLOY IN AN A AS OPPOSED TO DOUBLE A IS IN DOUBLE A STRONGER DOUBLE A IS STRONGER.

BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF TIME IS FEWER AND FEWER TRIPLE A AND DOUBLE AA RATED MUNICIPALS AND CORPORATE BACKED NAMES. IT'S JUST BEEN MAINLY THE FACT THAT THE RATING AGENCIES HAVE CHANGED THEIR METHODOLOGY ON HOW THEY RATE CERTAIN ISSUERS. SO IN A LOT OF CASES THAT WHAT HAS OCCURRED, THE DOWNGRADES THAT HAVE OCCURRED ARE NOT A RESULT OF DETERIORATING CREDIT BY, SAY, AGAIN, A CORPORATE NAME OR MUNICIPALITY.

IT'S JUST THAT THE RULES OF THE GAME HAVE BEEN CHANGED A LITTLE BIT BY THE RATING AGENCIES.

AND SO TODAY THERE'S JUST FEWER OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT DOUBLE-A AND TRIPLE-A SPACE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE, YOU NEED TO DROP DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN CREDIT QUALITY TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES.

WHAT DO YOU SAY THERE? AGAIN, GOING BACK TO 2008, THERE WAS ISSUES WITH THE RATING AGENCIES.

WOULD YOU STILL HAVE MADE IT MORE STRINGENT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY RATE THESE? FOR SURE. SO YOU WOULD SAY A BOND PERHAPS HAS THE STRINGENCY OF A TRIPLE-A BOND.

I WOULD SAY THE STRINGENCY IS THAT THE THE THE REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME ACROSS ACROSS THE, THE PLAYING FIELD. SOME JUST MIGHT BETTER MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAN OTHERS.

AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN CORPORATE SPACE TODAY, THERE'S ONLY TWO TRIPLE-A NAMES.

SO IF YOU HAVE A LIMITATION OF TRIPLE-A ON CORPORATE NOTES, THERE'S ONLY TWO NAMES YOU CAN BUY.

IT'S JUST A SIGN OF THE TIMES. AND AGAIN, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE CREDIT QUALITY OF THE UNDERLYING ISSUER HAS DETERIORATED.

IT'S JUST THAT THE AGAIN, THE RATING AGENCIES REQUIRE THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY ONCE DID.

OKAY. AND YOU SAID RETURNS. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT, THE NEXT DISCUSSION OF WHAT THE MONEY WE'RE ACTUALLY MANAGING IS PART OF THE PERFORMANCE REPORT. AND ACTUALLY, WHAT WAS YOUR RETURN LAST YEAR? I CAN TELL YOU IN THE, IN THE OPERATING PORTFOLIO THAT WE MANAGE, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE ON THE UNDER MANAGEMENT? 40, 41 MILLION IN THE PORTFOLIO WE MANAGE.

SO YOU HAVE 41 MILLION, 41.5 MILLION. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE PRESENTATION NEXT FOR THAT.

YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. COOL. SO WE'LL SAVE THOSE QUESTIONS FOR THAT PART OF IT. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. GOOD. WE'LL KEEP EVERYBODY HANGING.

IT'S A GOOD NUMBER FOR THE LAST 1212 MONTHS. RIGHT.

WELL THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

SO NOT SEEING ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO ASK ANYTHING? I SEE WHERE THE CALLABLE MARGINS WERE ADDED AND SOME OF IT YOU'VE ADDED BY 25%, 20% CAP ON SOME FROM THE CALLABLE MARGINS. CALLABLE MARGINS YOU ADDED IN AT A 20% CAP. YES. ON THE REST OF THE PAPER HERE FOR THE INVESTMENT POLICIES YOU STANDARDIZE IT AT 5.25% ON ALL OF THEM VERSUS ONE OF THEM HAD A THREE, SOME JUST HAD A FIVE. SO YOU WENT THROUGH AND YOU DID THAT? YES. I SEE COMMERCIAL PAPER HAS A LOWER ISSUER LIMIT.

ISSUER LIMIT, WHICH I THINK MIGHT BE ALONG THE LINES OF SOME OF WHAT COMMISSIONER WRIGHT WAS LEADING AT FOR COMMERCIAL PAPER, BECAUSE NOT ALL MORTGAGES ARE BACKED BY FANNIE MAE, FREDDIE MAC.

SO I AM BANK ABC AND I'M GIVING A LOAN TO SOMEBODY IF I'M NOT CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY REALLY HAVE ALL THOSE DOLLARS IN THEIR BANK AND ACTUALLY WORK, OR DO ALL THESE OTHER KIND OF THINGS. AND I'VE STILL GIVEN THEM THE LOAN.

MY PAPER IS NOT AS GOOD AS WHAT IT COULD BE. AND THAT WAS WHAT A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS WERE WITH THE BANKING INDUSTRY, BECAUSE THEY WERE SAYING, OKAY, WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU ANYWAY.

OR WHAT WAS WORSE IS THEY'D GIVE YOU AN 80% FIRST MORTGAGE AND A 20% SECOND MORTGAGE.

AND THIS WAY YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR TAXES AND YOUR INSURANCE BEING TAKEN CARE OF, AND PEOPLE WERE LOSING PROPERTY DURING TO THEIR TAXES, NOT BEING PAID TO THE FIRST MORTGAGE, AND NOT HAVING ENOUGH INCOME TO ACTUALLY MEET TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE WERE BUYING.

FORGIVE ME, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS THROAT WENT. IT HAPPENS.

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I SEE ALSO THAT YOU CHANGED IT FROM THE DATE OF PURCHASE TO THE SETTLEMENT.

RIGHT. BUT I ALSO DON'T SEE THESE ITEMS DEFINED IN OUR NEW GLOSSARY BACK HERE.

SO WOULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND JUST SHARE? SURE, SURE.

AND I'LL SAY WE'VE TAKEN SOMEWHAT OF A BELT AND SUSPENDERS APPROACH WITH CHANGING THE TIME OF PURCHASE AND INCREASING THE MAXIMUM MATURITY TO FIVE AND A QUARTER YEARS.

AND THE MAIN REASON BEHIND THAT IS I'LL GET BACK.

DO MY BEST TO DEFINE IT HERE IN A SECOND, BUT JUST LET ME SPEAK TO WHY WHY WE DID IT.

YOU'LL NOTE THAT WE'VE WE MENTIONED GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN THE NEW ISSUE MARKET.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE FOUND THAT FROM TIME TO TIME, SAY A CORPORATE ISSUER.

SO I'LL JUST USE AN EXAMPLE SO EVERYONE KIND OF UNDERSTANDS WHAT CORPORATE ISSUER IS, SAY AN AMAZON COMES TO MARKET AND THEY HAVE A NEED FOR FOR CASH. MAYBE NOT THE BEST EXAMPLE IN THAT CASE BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY CASH RICH BUT SAY THEY AREN'T GOING TO ISSUE AND THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO ISSUE. THEY NEED CASH BASICALLY TO FILL A FIVE YEAR AND ONE MONTH NEED. SO TECHNICALLY THAT'S 61 MONTHS. WELL, YOU ALL THE WAY THE POLICY IS WRITTEN TODAY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT NEW ISSUE, BECAUSE YOUR POLICY TODAY ONLY ALLOWS FOR YOU TO PURCHASE ANYTHING 60 MONTHS IN, IN. RIGHT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND TO THAT TO ALLOW YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT NEW ISSUE MARKET. SO TIME OF, OF OF PURCHASE AND TIME OF SETTLEMENT GETS BACK TO THE, TO TO THE TRADING PROCESS. AND IF YOU ENTER INTO A CONTRACT TO BUY THAT SECURITY.

YOU REACH OUT TO THE BROKER AND SAY, WE WE ARE PURCHASING THAT PARTICULAR SECURITY.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE DONE THAT, YOU SEND THAT DOCUMENTATION TO THE BROKER.

YOU BASICALLY HAVE ENTERED INTO THAT AGREEMENT.

AND THAT IS THAT THE DATE OF PURCHASE. BUT THE TRUE LEGAL OWNERSHIP OF THAT SECURITY TAKES PLACE AT THE TIME OF SETTLEMENT, AND THAT'S WHEN THE SECURITY IS DELIVERED AND THE CITY PAYS FOR THAT PARTICULAR SECURITY.

AND THAT IS AT THE TIME OF SETTLEMENT. AND, AND WE ALSO WE KIND OF WRITE THAT IN ALSO TO GUARD AGAINST FROM TIME TO TIME WE MAY ENTER INTO A 60 MONTH SECURITY, BUT IT MAY NOT SETTLE FOR LIKE SEVEN DAYS.

SO THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO PURCHASE THAT SECURITY BASED ON THE WAY THE POLICIES ARE WRITTEN TODAY.

60 MONTHS. SO THIS AGAIN, IF YOU DO IT AT TIME OF SETTLEMENT, YOU'RE FINE.

IF YOU DO FIVE AND A QUARTER YEARS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE FINE.

SO THAT'S WHY I SAY WE TOOK SORT OF A BELT AND SUSPENDERS APPROACH HERE.

I APPRECIATE IT. I JUST MAYBE JUST CURIOUS IF IT WAS NEEDED TO BE ADDED TO OUR DEFINITION OF TERMS THAT COULD VERY EASILY, EASILY BE DONE. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MAJOR DEAL AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE YOU'VE ALREADY CHECKED THAT.

SO I DON'T REALLY I DIDN'T SEE IT'S NOT IN THERE SO THAT VERY EASILY I CAN'T SPELL WHICH IS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, TRUTH. BUT I'M NOT SEEING IT BETWEEN SAFEKEEPING AND STRUCTURED NOTES.

OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD CATCH. I THINK THAT'S WORTHY OF BEING ADDED BECAUSE IT'S JUST A MAJOR DEFINITION.

FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

IT IT. IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT WE'RE UPDATING THIS POLICY OR WE HAVEN'T UPDATED IT IN 16 YEARS? IS THAT FAIR? IS THAT A FAIR? YEAH. OKAY. SO I GUESS A COUPLE JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION.

SO WE'RE HERE NOW. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE WITH THIS UPDATE? IS IT THAT WE HAVE FUNDS THAT HAVE KIND OF CONSERVATIVELY SET TO IDEALLY DO WE I MEAN, AS THE YOU CAME IN A YEAR AGO, I UNDERSTAND, AND YOU'RE ANALYZING OUR BOOKS.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY THERE'S NO THERE'S NO PROBLEM.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TO, AGAIN, INCORPORATE NEW LEGISLATION, NEW BEST PRACTICES

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BUT I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T PHRASE IT AS A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.

OKAY. SO LET ME CHANGE THE WORD. WHAT WHAT DO WE STAND TO GAIN BY DOING THIS? LET ME REPHRASE THE POSITION. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAVEN'T UPDATED OUR FINANCIAL POLICY OR OUR, YOU KNOW, IN 16 YEARS, NATURALLY THE THE, THE ASSUMPTION OR PRESUMPTION WOULD BE THAT THERE WE HAVEN'T DONE AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY COULD IN THE LAST 16 YEARS. IS THAT FAIR? POSSIBLY. YOU HAVEN'T DONE AS MUCH AS YOU COULD FROM A RETURN STANDPOINT, INVESTMENT STANDPOINT. I WOULD SAY, DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT YOUR POLICY WAS FAIRLY WELL WRITTEN THERE.

YOU HAD A LOT OF THE SECTORS THAT WE TYPICALLY INCLUDE AND INVEST IN.

SO IT'S HARD TO SAY. LOOK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, COULD YOU HAVE DONE BETTER? I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT PERFORMANCE HERE OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

AND RETURNS ARE PRETTY ATTRACTIVE. YOU KNOW, I JUST I THINK WE'RE SETTING A STANDARD NOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS POLICY FRAMEWORK ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

AT A MINIMUM, YOU SHOULD BE DOING SO ANNUALLY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, COMMIT TO DOING THAT GOING FORWARD.

OKAY. SO IS IT YOUR PROPOSAL THAT WE ESSENTIALLY ALIGN OUR POLICY WITH STATUTE, OR ARE WE LOOKING TO INCREASE OUR RISK TOLERANCE HERE AS AN ORGANIZATION? WELL, DEFINITELY WANT TO ALIGN WITH STATUTE.

YOU ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE EVERY PART OF THE CODE INCORPORATED INTO YOUR POLICY.

BUT I WOULDN'T SAY WE'RE INCREASING THE RISK AT ALL.

IF ANYTHING, THE ADDITION OF SECTORS AND PUTTING CERTAIN LIMITS AROUND, SAY, DURATION AND CERTAIN ISSUER LIMITS, IF ANYTHING, YOU'RE POTENTIALLY REDUCING THE OVERALL RISK OF THE PORTFOLIO, NOT NOT NECESSARILY INCREASING YOUR RISK STANCE.

FROM A POLICY, FROM A DECISION MAKING STANDPOINT, I'M DEFINITELY NOT A FINANCIAL ADVISOR.

SO I NEED YOU GUYS TO TELL ME WHY WE NEED TO CHANGE THE POLICY.

BECAUSE EVERYTHING I'M ASKING, WE'RE SAYING EVERYTHING'S FINE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES. WE'RE INVESTING. WELL, THERE'S NO RISK.

WHY WOULD WE ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF ADJUSTING THE POLICY AT THIS POINT? IF WE. I DID HEAR YOU SAY WE SHOULD DO IT ANNUALLY.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT, SO THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. DO WE HAVE A PROJECTED YIELD? WHAT DO WE THINK WE COULD MAKE? YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE WHAT IS THE WHAT? I NEED TO UNDERSTAND. GIVE ME LAYMAN'S TERMS HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK FINANCE. I WANT TO TALK.

WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL RISK TO THE CITY FOR MAKING THESE CHANGES? AND WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS? CHRISTINE WAS DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, SO THAT'S WHY WE TERMED IT THIS THIS POLICY ENHANCEMENT.

RIGHT. SO WE WE ALREADY HAVE A GOOD POLICY. HOWEVER, THE LEGISLATURE DID HAVE SOME CHANGES THAT'S NOT INCORPORATED IN THE POLICY.

AND THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE CHANGES.

AND THAT'S THE 2023 THE PECUNIARY FACTORS 2025 THEY REDUCE SOME OF THE THE CREDIT QUALITY.

AND THAT'S A MAJOR REASON WHY WE ARE CHANGING THE POLICY.

HOWEVER, AS WE LOOKED AT THE POLICY OUR INVESTMENT ADVISOR, THEY LOOK AT THE POLICY AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE. SO LET'S LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING.

IS THERE THINGS THAT WE THAT WE COULD ADD. AND AS YOU SAY, HE WENT OUT TO THE ORGANIZATIONS.

THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED LOOK AT THEIR LOOK AT THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND WENT THROUGH THE POLICY.

AND THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE THE FIVE YEAR AND WE REALIZED THAT HAVING THE PURCHASE DATE, SOMETIMES WE MISS OUT ON INVESTMENTS BECAUSE OF THAT LITTLE TIME THAT MAYBE SEVEN, SEVEN DAYS.

SO WE SAID, LET'S LET'S CHANGE THOSE. SO IT'S A IT'S A PROCESS IMPROVEMENT MORE THAN TO SAY THAT THE EXISTING POLICY WE HAVE DOESN'T MEET OUR NEEDS BECAUSE THE, THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE REMAINED THE SAME.

IT'S SAFETY FIRST. IT'S PRINCIPLE PRESERVATION.

AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE BECAUSE THE POLICY ALLOWS CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO IN INTO THEM.

IF THE, IF THE TIMING AND THE CREDIT QUALITY IS NOT CORRECT.

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WE JUST NEED TO INCORPORATE THOSE, THOSE, THOSE LEGISLATION THAT WAS ISSUED AND PUT A LITTLE MORE TEETH, PUT A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION IN THERE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THE POLICY.

SO, SO AND WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M ESSENTIALLY HEARING IS THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE MORE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IN TERMS OF HOW WE WERE INVESTING.

THERE WERE SOME IT SOUNDS LIKE I MEAN, IF THERE WERE, WHO MAKES THE INVESTMENT DECISIONS FOR THE CITY? WELL, THE INVESTMENT ADVISERS ADVISE ON ON INVESTMENT DECISION AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR ULTIMATELY MAKES THE DECISION. THE THE MARKET HASN'T BEEN SO GREAT THE LAST FEW YEARS.

2023 2024 WHILE INTEREST RATE WAS RISING OUR MANAGED SECURITY DIDN'T DIDN'T DO SO WELL. NOW IT'S DOING A LOT BETTER BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE INVESTMENT HAS MATURED AND WE'RE ABLE TO INVEST INVEST IN MORE. SO I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THOSE DECISIONS WERE WRONG.

THOSE DECISIONS WERE, I WOULD SAY, THE RIGHT DECISION FOR THE TIME THAT WE'RE IN.

AND BASED ON THE KNOWLEDGE WE HAD AT THE TIME.

NOW, NOW THE ENVIRONMENT HAS CHANGED. ECONOMIC FACTORS HAVE CHANGED.

SO THAT AFFECTS THE DECISION THAT WE MADE. WE MAKE NOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON. BUT I WOULD NOT SAY THAT WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST, THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHAT WE WITHIN THE PAST, WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST WAS THE SAME AS I WOULD SAY. ANYONE ELSE, THAT WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS AT THE TIME? YEAH, I THINK WHEN WE BRING IN PROFESSIONALS, WE GAIN ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVE.

AND SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S IT'S NOT FAIR FOR US TO NECESSARILY LOOK AT OUR APPROACH AS WE DIDN'T HAVE OPPORTUNITY.

I DON'T THINK I SAID WRONG. I JUST ASKED WAS THERE OPPORTUNITIES MISSED.

AND SO I THINK WHEN WE BRING IN PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR INDUSTRY AND IN THEIR FIELD, WE SHOULD EXPECT TO IDENTIFY AREAS IN WHICH WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE HAD MISSED OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT I'M SEEING HERE AND WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT POTENTIALLY WE COULD HAVE BECAUSE ALL I'VE HEARD HERE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY HAS BEEN WE'RE ABOUT TO GO BANKRUPT. I THINK I HEARD THAT LAST BUDGET SEASON.

SO I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WE'RE LOOKING AT INVESTMENTS.

I THINK THAT PERHAPS WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE.

SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE EXPAND OUR REACH.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS WITH THIS, WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY, WHO IS MAKING FINANCIAL DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD? WHO MAKES THE INVESTMENT DECISIONS? I SAW IN THE LANGUAGE SOMEWHERE IT SAYS THE CITY.

WHO IS THE CITY IN THIS CASE? THE FINANCE DIRECTOR IS VESTED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKING THE INVESTMENT DECISION. YES. OKAY, SO HOW DO WE POSITION OURSELVES FOR FOR FORWARD LOOKING SUCCESS? SO IF THERE IS I DON'T KNOW IF I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

NECESSARILY IS IT THE I MEAN, IF WE'VE KIND OF HAD A PARTICULAR MANNER IN WHICH WE'VE DONE IT AND WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT THERE WAS ROOM FOR MORE ROOM FOR OPPORTUNITY, WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP LOOK LIKE? HOW DOES THIS ARE YOU ON BOARD MOVING FORWARD? ARE YOU GOING TO BE ADVISING THE FINANCE DIRECTOR? WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT DECISIONS? SO BRIEFLY, WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CHRISTINE AND STAFF TO DETERMINE THE RIGHT MIX OF WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE SHORT TERM.

SO FOR LIQUIDITY PURPOSES AND WHAT CAN BE INVESTED OUT IN THE LONG TERM.

SO ONCE THAT DECISION IS MADE AND A DESIGNATION HAS BEEN MADE FOR THE LONG TERM, WE THEN MANAGE THE ASSETS THAT HAVE BEEN EARMARKED FOR LONGER TERM INVESTMENT, WHICH BRING WITH IT TODAY ANYWAY THE POTENTIAL FOR GREATER RETURN.

THE PAST FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS THAT HASN'T NECESSARILY BEEN THE CASE.

SO MORE RECENTLY, YOU WEREN'T REALLY IMPACTED BY BEING INVESTED IN THE SHORT TERM BECAUSE INTEREST RATES WERE SO ATTRACTIVE ON THE SHORT END.

BUT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE FED TAKE ACTION, REDUCE INTEREST RATES SO THAT THAT IS STARTING TO TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT.

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AND THEN WHAT'S AGAIN IDENTIFIED BEYOND THAT IS CONSIDERED LONGER TERM MONEY.

AND IT CAN BE INVESTED OUTSIDE OF, SAY, MONEY MARKET FUNDS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOLS.

AND AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN TO INVEST THE LONGER TERM ASSETS.

I PERSONALLY WOULD I THINK IT I THINK WE WOULD I WOULD PERSONALLY PREFER THAT THE POLICY READ THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE. IF THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

I'M NOT SURE ATTORNEY IF THAT THE POLICY THAT I'M READING SAYS THE CITY, BUT THEN SOMEWHERE ELSE IT SAYS THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR MAY INVEST. I FEEL LIKE FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST SO THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY ACROSS THE POLICY AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A LICENSE ISSUE OR ANY, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT MAY CREATE A REASON WHY IT COULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD NEED TO BE OR IT COULDN'T BE SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR.

BUT IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? UNLESS UNLESS STATE LAW PROHIBITS IT.

BUT CITY MANAGER, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR GENERALLY IS THE DESIGNEE OF THE MANAGER, SO.

BUT YOU CAN HAVE A CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE. I DON'T THINK THE STATE POLICY INVESTMENT RESTRICT THAT, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENSURE THAT THE MANAGER ALSO HAS THE ABILITY IF HE IF HE DOESN'T AGREE.

PERHAPS THERE'S YOU KNOW, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WELL TOLERANCE AND INVESTMENT DECISIONS ARE PERSONAL OPINION AS WELL.

AND SO IF THERE IS, YOU KNOW, A SPACE WHERE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN OPINION ON A PARTICULAR MATTER THAT THERE WOULD BE. YEAH, I WOULD THE MANAGER IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUDGET AND INVESTMENT.

AND THE POLICY AT THE END OF THE DAY SHOULD INCLUDE HIM IN MAKING THOSE FINAL DECISIONS.

SO PARAGRAPH FOUR, PAGE FOUR, PAGE FOUR, PARAGRAPH FOUR, PAGE FOUR HAS, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROVIDING OVERSIGHT AND DIRECTION IN REGARD TO THE MANAGEMENT OF THE INVESTMENT PROGRAM RESIDES WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

THE DAILY MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL CITY FUNDS AND INVESTMENT PROGRAM INVESTMENT TRANSACTION IS DELEGATED TO THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR AND THE COMPTROLLER.

FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR SHALL ESTABLISH WRITTEN PROCEDURES FOR THE OPERATION OF INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO AND SYSTEM, INTERNAL ACCOUNTING AND ADMINISTRATIVE CONTROLS TO REGULATE THE ACTIVITIES OF EMPLOYEES.

THE CITY MAY EMPLOY AN INVESTMENT MANAGER TO ASSIST IN THE MANAGEMENT OF SOME OF THE CITY'S PORTFOLIOS.

SUCH INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT MUST BE REGULATED UNDER THE INVESTMENT ADVISERS ACT OF 1940.

YEAH, I MEAN, I CONFIRM THAT WITH THE CHARTER, BUT ULTIMATELY THE MANAGER IS STILL THE PERSON WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE INVESTMENT DECISIONS WITH THE CITY OF TAMARAC. I WOULD ASSUME THAT CONSULTATION WOULD TAKE PLACE BETWEEN THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND THE MANAGER ON THE IMPORTANT FINANCIAL DECISION. CORRECT. OKAY. SO WITH THAT MANAGER, ARE YOU DOES YOUR CORRECT AFFIRM THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE EXISTING LANGUAGE AS AS WRITTEN IT SAYS THE CITY LIKE I'M LOOKING AT PAGE SEVEN.

AND I ONLY JUST GOT THIS THIS MORNING, SO I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

BUT I'M LOOKING AT PAGE SEVEN THE, THE PARAGRAPH THAT WAS ADDED.

IT SAYS LAST SENTENCE THE CITY WILL REVIEW. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYWHERE ELSE THAT WAS THAT HAS LANGUAGE ADDED REFERS TO IT.

AND AGAIN, I JUST GOT THIS THIS MORNING. THERE'S A TON OF LANGUAGE ADDED IN THE BACK. FROM A CONSISTENCY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY WANT TO CHANGE THAT AND USE THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT WE USE IN THE OTHER PARTS OF THE POLICY.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION? I DON'T. OKAY. BUT FROM A CONSISTENCY PERSPECTIVE, WE COULD CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER. I THINK YOUR LANGUAGE PROPOSAL IS GIVE THE CITY FLEXIBILITY.

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SO IF YOU HAVE A BROAD LANGUAGE, IF THE MANAGER IS NOT IN PLACE, THE DESIGNEE COULD BASICALLY TAKE ACTION.

IF IF FINANCE DIRECTOR IS NOT IN PLACE, THE MANAGER CAN TAKE ACTION.

SO FLEXIBILITY IS THE KEY. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE FOR YOU.

I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? SCOTT. OKAY. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PORTFOLIO WOULD SHIFT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY INVESTING AND WHAT'S BEING WHAT THE POLICY WOULD ALLOW FOR IT? RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY IT WON'T.

THIS JUST GIVES US THE LEEWAY TO TO TAKE ACTION IF AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF.

SO CHRISTINE MADE THAT POINT THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING THESE SECTORS AND PARAMETERS, CERTAIN PARAMETERS TO THE PORTFOLIO, DOESN'T MEAN I'M GOING TO LEAVE HERE TODAY AND CALL THE PORTFOLIO MANAGER AND SAY, HEY, THEY PASSED.

YOU KNOW, THE POLICY STAFF PUT 25% IN SUPERNATIONALS.

IT'S JUST IT IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE AND HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO THESE SECTORS IF AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF. SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR RELATIVE VALUE IN AN INVESTMENT DECISION.

AND AGAIN, KIND OF PLANNING, PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE WHEN AN OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF.

OKAY. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO REVIEW THESE, THESE OTHER PRESENTATIONS.

YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOTHING FURTHER THEN WE ARE GOING TO NOW GO TO ONE BE OUR QUARTERLY INVESTMENT UPDATE.

[1.b. Quarterly Investment Update Scott Stitcher and Lili Arnsdorff, Chandler Asset Management ]

THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO BE BRIEF ON ON THE ECONOMIC UPDATE AND WHERE I CAN.

I WANT TO TRY AND INCORPORATE SOME MORE LOCAL COLOR, AND THEN YOU KNOW, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I KNOW YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT PERFORMANCE, WHICH IS ON PAGE 24, BUT LET ME JUST PAINT THE BACKDROP BRIEFLY.

AND I WANT TO FOCUS ON JOBS, INFLATION, GDP, THE FED.

THOSE ARE REALLY THE HOT TOPICS THAT WERE THAT YOU'RE MOST LIKELY READING ABOUT IN THE PAPERS TODAY.

AND ON PAGE FOUR WE SHOW YOU JOBS NONFARM PAYROLL GROWTH.

WE JUST GOT THE JANUARY REPORT AND IT SHOWED STRONGER THAN EXPECTED JOB GROWTH.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE DATED HERE.

SO WHERE I CAN I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MORE CURRENT DATA.

SO JANUARY CAME IN AT 130,000 JOBS ON AN ESTIMATE OF 70,000.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE DROPPED FROM 4.4% TO 4.3% IN JANUARY.

IT'S A PRETTY HEALTHY READING FROM AN EMPLOYMENT STANDPOINT.

POST REVISIONS, THOUGH WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN SOME SOFTENING HERE.

POST REVISIONS THAT JUST OCCURRED WITH THE MOST RECENT READING BROUGHT JOB INCREASES DOWN TO ABOUT 15,000 PER MONTH.

SO A HUGE SOFTENING THERE FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY REPORTED TO WHAT WAS WHAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED.

AND THE MAIN DRAG THERE WAS THE FEDERAL WORKFORCE OR THE REDUCTION, I SHOULD SAY, IN THE FEDERAL WORKFORCE LOOKING AT UNEMPLOYMENT, I MENTIONED THAT IT STANDS AT 4.3% TODAY AND LOOKING AT FLORIDA, WHICH IS ROUGHLY RANKS ABOUT 31ST IN THE US FROM AN EMPLOYMENT STANDPOINT, IT'S IN LINE WITH THE NATIONAL AVERAGE AT 4.3%.

IF YOU LOOK AT BROWARD COUNTY, THAT NUMBER IS AT 4.2%.

SO THE COUNTY IS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

MIAMI-DADE, ABOUT 2.5%, AND PALM BEACH A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE AT 4.5%.

SO THE EMPLOYMENT PICTURE LOOKS FAIRLY STRONG FROM AN EMPLOYMENT STANDPOINT.

BUT AS FAR AS NEW JOB GROWTH IS CONCERNED, WE'VE SEEN A CONSIDERABLE SLOWING THERE.

AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE FED.

IF WE LOOK AT PAGE SIX. I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE INFLATION DATA.

AND GOOD NEWS ON THE INFLATION FRONT LOOKING AT CPI.

THE CHART ON THE LEFT, IT COOLED A LITTLE BIT IN JANUARY.

CPI AND CORE CPI READINGS CAME IN AT 2.4 AND 2.5% RESPECTIVELY.

IN JANUARY WE JUST RECEIVED A PCE, THE PERSONAL CONSUMPTION EXPENDITURE, THE CHART ON THE RIGHT.

WE JUST RECEIVED A READING FOR DECEMBER RECENTLY, AND THAT NUMBER CAME IN AT 2.9% FOR THE HEADLINE READING AND THEN BACKING OUT ENERGY AND FOOD. THE READING WAS 3%. SO WE'RE SEEING NUMBERS IN LINE WITH THE PREVIOUS MOST RECENT PREVIOUS MONTHS THERE.

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SO THAT'S IN LINE WITH THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. AND OVER THE IF YOU LOOKED AT THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THAT INFLATION RATE WAS ABOUT 5.85%. THAT'S NOT HORRIBLE CONSIDERING THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

PCE UNFORTUNATELY, WE REALLY ONLY HAVE A FULL YEAR OF DATA THERE.

PERSONAL CONSUMPTION EXPENDITURE FOR FLORIDA IN 2025 WAS ABOUT 4.5%, WHICH IS UP FROM 2.4%.

SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ELEVATED THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF 2.9%.

SO A LITTLE BIT MIXED BAG THERE FROM A HEADLINE NUMBER CPI.

I WOULD SAY INFLATION IS IN LINE WITH THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

FEEL FREE TO STOP ME TOO IF I'M GOING TOO FAST TRYING TO GET THROUGH A FAIR AMOUNT OF DATA THOUGH.

LOOKING AT PAGE NINE, I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE CHART TO THE RIGHT AND THAT IS THE S&P CASE SHILLER 20 CITY COMPOSITE HOME INDEX.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY THAT HOUSING PRICES HAVE STAGNATED A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S HARD FOR ANYTHING TO CONTINUE TO GO UP FOREVER, ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA, WHERE WE'VE SEEN SUCH A CONSIDERABLE RUN UP.

IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FLORIDA PROBABLY LEAD WHEN PRICES START TO PULL BACK.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN. SO S&P CASE-SHILLER PUT TOGETHER A 20 CITY COMPOSITE INDEX THAT SPANS THE US.

IN FLORIDA, TWO CITIES ARE REPRESENTED. THAT'S MIAMI AND TAMPA.

AND TAMPA ACTUALLY HAD THE LARGEST PULLBACK IN HOME PRICES YEAR OVER YEAR, WITH THE MOST CURRENT READING OF ABOUT A -3.9%.

MIAMI CAME IN AT A -1.07%. SO 75% OF THOSE 20 CITIES SAW A PULLBACK IN THEIR YEAR OVER YEAR PRICE INCREASES. IN THIS CASE, THEY BASICALLY HAD DECREASES.

LOOKING MORE LOCALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT ZILLOW. ZILLOW PROVIDES SOME NICE DATA ON YEAR OVER YEAR HOME VALUE PRICE INCREASES OR DECREASES.

AND IN FLORIDA, ZILLOW HAS REPORTED ABOUT A 4.9% PULLBACK IN THE AVERAGE HOME VALUE OVER THE LAST YEAR.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY GIVEN WHAT HOME PRICES HAVE DONE IN FLORIDA.

TAMARAC. LOCALLY, A LITTLE BIT WORSE THAN THE STATE AT A -8.2%.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT FORT LAUDERDALE, IT'S DOWN ABOUT 5.4% FOR THE LAST YEAR.

ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HIGH PRICES, HIGH 30 YEAR MORTGAGE RATES ARE REALLY A HEADWIND TO TO THE HOUSING MARKET RIGHT NOW, MADE HOUSING UNATTAINABLE FOR A LARGE PART OF THE THE THE BOT FOR BUYERS NOT ONLY HERE, BUT BUT NATIONALLY.

LET ME SPEAK TO GROWTH AND WE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE FED AGAIN.

WE'VE JUST GOT A READING FOR FOURTH QUARTER GDP.

IT CAME IN A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBDUED THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED AT 1.4%.

THE EXPECTATIONS WERE FOR 2.8% GROWTH FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER.

FOR THE FULL YEAR OF 2025, GROWTH WAS ABOUT 2.2%.

AND THAT AGAIN WAS BELOW WHAT WE SAW IN 2024, WHEN FULL YEAR GROWTH WAS ABOUT 2.8%.

SO IT IS POSITIVE GROWTH NONETHELESS. IT JUST SURPRISED A LITTLE BIT TO THE DOWNSIDE THIS MOST RECENT QUARTER.

AND THAT PULLBACK OR THAT MISS REALLY WAS CITED BY THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.

SO BASICALLY HALF OF THE FOURTH QUARTER THE GOVERNMENT WAS SHUT DOWN FOR 43 DAYS TO BE EXACT.

AND THAT EQUATED TO ABOUT A 1% DRAG ON THE OVERALL GROWTH OF THE ECONOMY.

SO WITHOUT THAT, AGAIN, THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN A FULL PERCENT HIGHER THAN THAT 1.4% READING.

SO THE OUTLOOK FOR GROWTH IN 2026 IS FAIRLY POSITIVE.

NORTH OF 2% IS THE THE ESTIMATE. SO AGAIN, FROM A GROWTH STANDPOINT, THE ECONOMY APPEARS TO BE ON FIRM FOOTING.

NOW THE FED IF WE LOOK AT PAGE 12. THE FED TOOK ACTION LAST YEAR TO THE TUNE OF 325

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SO THE FED FUNDS RATE NOW STANDS AT THREE AND A HALF TO 3.75%.

NOW, IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT THE FED IS TELLING YOU THEY WOULD IT WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO CUT INTEREST RATES ONE TIME THIS YEAR.

SO THE FED'S MANDATE IS FULL EMPLOYMENT AND KEEPING INFLATION IN CHECK.

AND RIGHT NOW INFLATION IS RUNNING A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THEIR PREFERRED TARGET.

BUT THEY'VE SEEN SOFTNESS IN THE LABOR MARKET.

SO THAT HAS TAKEN OR CAUSED THEM TO TAKE ACTION AND CUT INTEREST RATES.

THEY WANT TO SEE JOB NUMBERS IMPROVE. SO FOR RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LIKELY TO SEE THE PAUSE, A PAUSE BY THE FED REMAIN ON THE SIDELINES AS THEY CONTINUE TO DIGEST DATA AS IT COMES IN.

ALL RIGHT. ONE THING THAT CAME OUT AFTER THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT THE FED REALLY WILL BE PATIENT ON FUTURE ADJUSTMENTS TO MONETARY POLICY AND EVEN A COUPLE OF THE GOVERNORS FELT THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE TWO SIDED LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE IN THE MINUTES BASED AROUND EMPLOYMENT AND THAT BEING IF THEY SAW DETERIORATION FURTHER IN EMPLOYMENT, THEY WOULD CUT INTEREST RATES. BUT IF THEY SAW FIRMING AND EVEN INFLATION START TO TICK UP, THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY EVEN RAISE INTEREST RATES.

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT THE FUTURE PATH OF INTEREST RATES WITHIN THE FED.

WE'RE IN THE CAMP THAT WE THINK INTEREST RATES OR THE FED WILL TAKE ACTION AT LEAST ONE MORE TIME OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

SO BY JULY, WE THINK YOU WILL SEE ANOTHER 25 BASIS POINT CUT.

AND THEN WITH THAT WE'LL COME MORE WHAT THEY CALL NORMALIZATION OF THE YIELD CURVE, WHERE INTEREST RATES, SHORT TERM INTEREST RATES ARE LOWER THAN LONGER TERM INTEREST RATES, WHICH WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN THAT ENVIRONMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BACKDROP OF THE ECONOMY? SO BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT SEGMENT. YES I WAS JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE STATEMENT OF COMPLIANCE AND THEN LOOK AT SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PORTFOLIO THAT WE MANAGE.

YEAH. JUST STEP BACK TO WHEN YOU INTERRUPT FOR QUESTIONS.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THAT MOMENT THEN TO GO BACK TO THE LAST ITEM AND GET CONSENSUS REGARDING THE REQUEST FOR CHANGE TO PAGE SEVEN ON THE POLICY INVESTMENT POLICY, THE NEW LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED, THERE IS REFERENCE IN THE LAST SENTENCE, THE SECURITY IS DOWNGRADED BY N OR O TO LEAD TO A LEVEL BELOW THE QUALITY REQUIRED BY THE INVESTMENT POLICY.

THE CITY WILL REVIEW THE CURRENT SITUATION AND THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER THE SALE OF SECURITIES IN PORTFOLIO.

THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD IN THE LAST PART WAS TO LET'S MAKE THAT LANGUAGE CONSISTENT WITH OUR POLICIES.

WE JUST NEED TO GET A CONSENSUS THAT THAT IS.

WHAT IS DESIRED? SO, VICE MAYOR. YES. NO. OKAY.

OKAY. WE HAVE NO OPINION. COMMISSIONER DANIEL.

PLEASE REPEAT YOUR QUESTION. GETTING CONSENSUS TO CHANGE OR MODIFY PAGE SEVEN PARAGRAPH FOR REFERENCE TO CITY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY AT HAND. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.

MATTERS. POLICY. THE LANGUAGE STATES ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE NEW INVESTMENT.

THE INVESTMENT POLICY. THE NEW LANGUAGE. IF A SECURITY IS DOWNGRADED BY N OR O TO A LEVEL BELOW THE QUALITY REQUIRED FOR THE INVESTMENT POLICY, THE CITY WILL REVIEW THE CREDIT SITUATION AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER TO SELL OR RETAIN THE SECURITIES IN THE PORTFOLIO.

THERE IS A REQUEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORD VERBIAGE, THE CITY IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR LANGUAGE IN THE POLICY, AND IT WAS SAID IT COULD BE DONE, BUT IT'S NEEDED TO HAVE CONSENSUS IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

I WANT YOU TO THE CITY MANAGER. IT'S GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE POLICY IS.

I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE CITY. IT'S A CITY MANAGER IN NUMBER FOUR AND IT'S A DOWNGRADE.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BUMP UP TO THE COMMISSION.

YOU'RE DEALING WITH A DOWNGRADE OF SECURITIES. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE EXPERTS SHOULD.

YEAH. WE DON'T. THE CITY MANAGER SAID A CITY MANAGER, THERE'S A NEED.

YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT. THAT'S RIGHT.

YES. IN CONSULTATION WITH THE THE FINANCIAL EXPERT.

BUT BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY LOCATION. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PLACE.

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THE LANGUAGE AND JUST JUST A GENERAL DEFINITION.

CITY MEANS CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS NEEDED TO KEEP THIS CORRECT.

PERFECT. YOU HAVE A FEW. I DON'T CARE PERSONALLY.

OKAY. THREE OF US THAT SAY LEAVE IT IN THE EXPERT'S HANDS.

WE ARE NOT EXPERTS. WE DO NOT. NONE OF US ARE HERE.

OUR INVESTMENT BANKERS OR IN THAT SITUATION. SO CAN WE.

CAN WE? JUST GIVES YOU ADVICE? YEAH. CAN WE? BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT IS.

THAT WAY ALREADY. HE'S THE YEAH A LICENSED EXPERT.

HE GIVE ADVICE AND THEN YOU GO IN. IT'S COMMISSIONER DEFINITION TO THE CITY.

YEAH. CAN WE JUST ADD A DEFINITION TO THE GLOSSARY THAT SAYS THE CITY MEANS THE CITY MANAGER OR.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S GENERAL DEFINITION. OKAY.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THE CITY OR WHATEVER. THAT'S FINE.

SEEMING CONSENSUS TO HAVE IT BE WHAT IT ALREADY IS.

ALRIGHT. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THE FINANCE DIRECTOR WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOSSES.

CORRECT? YEAH. THIS IS NOT FOR US TO HANDLE. YEAH.

THE MANAGER AND IT SHOULD REMAIN THE SAME WAY AS AS BEN.

SO. PLEASE PROCEED. OKAY. WELL, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS.

QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S KEEP IT AS IS. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY STATED THAT WAY.

BUT A DEFINITION IS GOING TO BE ADDED TO MAKE IT CLEANER, TO BE WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE IT ALREADY IS WHAT IT IS, SO TO SPEAK. AND THERE'S THERE IS ALSO ONE OTHER CHANGE WHERE YOU NEEDED A DEFINITION FOR SETTLEMENT DATE.

THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN YOUR POLICY THAT DON'T THAT THAT YOU ARE USING.

OKAY. THE REQUEST TO HAVE A DEFINITION ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS CONSENSUS BEARING.

OKAY, THAT IS JUST CLARIFICATION LANGUAGE. OKAY.

SO ALL THIS IS JUST CLARIFICATION LANGUAGE HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY WITHIN THE POLICY.

EXCELLENT SCOTT. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN HOW GOOD WE'RE DOING.

OKAY. SO BRIEFLY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S INVESTMENT POLICY.

I ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT.

SO THE GUIDELINES AND PARAMETERS SET BY YOUR POLICY ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF.

AND HERE'S SOME PORTFOLIO STATISTICS ON PAGE 18.

I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THE DURATION OF YOUR PORTFOLIO IS IN LINE WITH THE BENCHMARK.

WE HAVE BEEN CARRYING A SLIGHTLY LONGER DURATION RELATIVE TO YOUR BENCHMARK, BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK INTEREST RATES ARE GOING UP ANYTIME SOON.

SO WHEN YOU THINK INTEREST RATES ARE GOING UP, YOU WANT LESS INTEREST RATE SENSITIVITY.

WHEN YOU THINK INTEREST RATES ARE GOING DOWN, YOU WANT MORE INTEREST RATE SENSITIVITY.

AND SO THEREFORE WE'RE CARRYING A SLIGHTLY LONGER DURATION IN THE PORTFOLIO.

THE AVERAGE PURCHASE YIELD STANDS AT A 380 TODAY.

I'M LOOKING AT THAT CENTER COLUMN UNDER 1231 2025 VERSUS THE MARKET YIELD AT A 364.

SO THE WAY TO INTERPRET THAT IS, IS THEORETICALLY, IF WE COULD GO OUT AND RECREATE YOUR PORTFOLIO TODAY, PURCHASE ALL THE SAME SECURITIES THAT YOU CURRENTLY HOLD, YOU WOULD ONLY EARN A 3.64% IN THAT PORTFOLIO.

SO YOU'VE LOCKED IN HIGHER YIELD FOR LONGER THAN YOU COULD IF YOU WENT OUT AND DID THAT TODAY.

SO IT'S A GOOD STORY. HIGH QUALITY DOUBLE A. AND AGAIN, THE MARKET VALUE ON THE ASSETS WE MANAGE ARE 41,000,506, 434 AS OF THE 20TH OF FEBRUARY. IT STANDS NOW AT ABOUT $41,688,000.

SO INTEREST RATES HAVE CONTINUED TO COME DOWN.

MARKET VALUE HAS CONTINUED TO GO UP IN THE PORTFOLIO.

SO GOOD STORY THERE. SO LET'S LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE MOST INTERESTED IN SEEING.

AND THAT IS THE TOTAL RETURN OF THE PORTFOLIO ON PAGE 24.

AGAIN THE INCEPTION DATE FOR US IS DECEMBER 1ST OF 2024.

SO YOU'LL NOTE FOR THE MOST RECENT QUARTER ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, THE PORTFOLIO RETURNED 1.14% VERSUS 1.12% FOR YOUR BENCHMARK, THE 1 TO 3 YEAR US TREASURY AGENCY INDEX.

AND FOR THE TRAILING 12 MONTHS, THE PORTFOLIO WAS UP 5.36% VERSUS THE BENCHMARK OF 5.09%.

AND SINCE THE INCEPTION OF US MANAGING THE PORTFOLIO, THE PORTFOLIO IS UP ABOUT 5.15%.

SO NUMBERS NORTH OF 5%. I WILL STATE THOUGH, I THINK 5% IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGING IN 2026 BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN INTEREST RATES START TO

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SO AT A LOWER YIELD THAN WHAT WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO BUY BACK IN 24, 23, EVEN 25 FOR THAT MATTER.

SO WE'LL BE CHALLENGED TO GET 5%, BUT WE'RE STILL IN A PARDON ME.

OH, BUT BUT WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER ENVIRONMENT THAN WE HAVE BEEN.

SAY IN THE LATE 2000 AND MID 20 TENS WHERE INTEREST RATES WERE VIRTUALLY ZERO.

SO IT'S A GOOD STORY WHERE THERE'S DEFINITELY YIELD OUT THERE TO BE EARNED.

THERE'S DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE AS WELL.

WE THINK YOU'RE WELL POSITIONED. AND YOU KNOW, WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE POLICY, IT WILL INCREASE THE, THE NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THAT MIGHT PRESENT THEMSELVES GOING FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? YOU HAVE A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER.

RIGHT. YOU MENTIONED THE MACRO FACTORS LIKE UNEMPLOYMENT.

WHAT ABOUT GEOPOLITICAL STUFF? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT.

YEAH. I MEAN SO THE IT AFFECTS THIS PORTFOLIO A LITTLE LESS.

BUT WHERE IT DOES IS IN THE TREASURY MARKET. AND TYPICALLY WHAT YOU SEE WHEN THERE ARE GEOPOLITICAL ISSUES IS A FLIGHT TO QUALITY. AND TREASURIES ARE CONSIDERED THAT, THAT FLIGHT TO QUALITY.

SO WHAT COULD HAPPEN IS THE DEMAND FOR TREASURIES GO UP.

AND, AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS YIELDS TEND, TEND TO FALL.

IS, IS REALLY THAT THE BYPRODUCT OF THAT? THE GOOD NEWS IS, AGAIN, THAT YOU'VE LOCKED IN THAT HIGHER YIELD, YOU HAVE EXPOSURE TO TREASURIES. AND ANY SORT OF ACTION LIKE THAT WOULD ONLY HELP THE VALUE OF YOUR UNDERLYING TREASURIES.

SO IN A HIGH INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT, AS WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE OF INFLATION, THAT HAS HELPED YOU IN TERMS OF THE RETURNS IT HAS.

YEAH. SO NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TOWARDS A LOWER INTEREST RATE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT'S GOING TO BE I THINK YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE THE SHORT TERM RATES ARE GOING TO BE LOWER THAN THE LONGER IT'LL BE MORE.

THEY CALL THAT A NORMAL YIELD CURVE WHERE YOU'RE COMPENSATED FOR GOING OUT ON THE IN THE LONGER TERM.

SO IT BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT IN GETTING THE SAME RETURNS WE'VE GOTTEN HISTORICALLY.

IT IS WHEN INTEREST RATES COME DOWN. YOU KNOW, INCOME IS A KEY DRIVER OF TOTAL RETURN.

AND SO WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING IN A LOWER YIELD ENVIRONMENT IT IS HARDER TO TO GET THAT HIGHER RETURN.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THREE INTEREST RATE CUTS.

AND THAT HAS THE EFFECT OF INCREASING BOND VALUES.

SO THAT'S SORT OF BEHIND US AS WELL. SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT DRIVER TO INCREASE BOND PRICES.

AND WE DON'T HAVE AS HIGH A YIELD ENVIRONMENT TO TO CLIP THAT HIGHER COUPON, THAT HIGHER INCOME COUPON GOING FORWARD.

THAT'S WHY I SAID, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE HARD PRESSED TO GET 5% GOING FORWARD.

GOING TO THE CORPORATE BONDS. THAT WE HAVE. AND ARE THEY GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES THESE THESE COMPANIES I SEE YOU HAVE APPLE, WHICH IS WHICH IS A MODERN COMPANY.

I DON'T SEE COMPANIES. I SEE YOU HAVE AMAZON, I DON'T SEE COMPANIES LIKE META OR ALPHABET WHICH IS GOOGLE.

THOSE ARE TRILLION TRILLION DOLLAR MARKET CAP.

COMPANIES THAT ARE HAS STRONG CASH FLOW AND STRONG BALANCE SHEETS.

WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE COMPANIES? WELL, SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SPEAKING TO LIKE THE MEGA CAPS OR THE, THE, THE TOP SEVEN NAMES IN THE S&P 500. AND AND THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THOSE NAMES IS THAT THEY ARE ALL VERY PROFITABLE.

THEY ARE RICH WITH CASH AND A LOT OF THEM AREN'T EVEN ISSUING DEBT BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO AGAIN, THAT THE OPPORTUNITY JUST ISN'T THERE TO ADD THOSE NAMES.

SO WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL A CREDIT COMMITTEE THAT BASICALLY DOES THE RESEARCH TO PUT TOGETHER AN APPROVED LIST OF NAMES THAT WE CAN ADD TO, TO THE PORTFOLIO AND ALL THOSE DECISIONS AND, AND BUY AND SELL DECISIONS ARE REALLY DONE BY COMMITTEE.

SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON OUT MAKING THE DECISION ON WHETHER TO INCLUDE META OR WHETHER TO INCLUDE ALPHABET IN THE PORTFOLIO. IT'S DONE BY COMMITTEE. IT HAS TO BE ON THAT APPROVED LIST BEFORE IT CAN BE ADDED TO TO THE PORTFOLIO.

SO GO AHEAD. SO YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT MAKES A DECISION.

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AND THEN IT KIND OF YOU MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE CITY.

NOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TO TRADE ON YOUR BEHALF.

WE HAVE DISCRETION TO PURCHASE. SO YOU HAVE FLEXIBILITY.

YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE IT'S NOT BUREAUCRATIC IN TERMS OF MAKING A DECISION.

I ALSO SAW CHANDLER WORK WITH OTHER LIKE 90% OF MUNICIPALITIES.

WE DO. SO HOW DO YOU COMPARE? LIKE, DO YOU LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND DO YOU KIND OF SHARE INVESTMENT ADVICE? HOW DOES HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? YEAH. SO AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT DRIVES OUR INVESTMENT DECISIONS IS AN UNDERLYING INVESTMENT POLICY OF OUR ENTITIES. NOW WITH THAT SAID, I WILL SAY THAT IN FLORIDA, A LOT OF OUR OUR ENTITIES OR YOUR PEERS, THE POLICIES LOOK PRETTY SIMILAR. SO IF WE'RE BUYING A NAME IN TAMARAC MORE THAN LIKELY WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BUY THAT SAME SECURITY SAY, IN DELRAY BEACH. AND THAT'S A BENEFIT TO YOU THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT INTO THE MARKETPLACE AND REQUEST A LARGE PORTION OF THAT OUTSTANDING DEBT TO SPREAD ACROSS OUR CLIENTS PORTFOLIOS.

THAT GIVES US PRICING STRENGTH, OR I SHOULD SAY, BUYING STRENGTH.

MEANING YOU'RE GETTING BETTER PRICING BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO TO TAKE DOWN A BIGGER PIECE OF THAT, OF THAT DEBT. DO YOU CHARGE A PERCENTAGE OF THE PORTFOLIO AS A MANAGEMENT FEE OR IS IT A STANDARD FEE? NO, IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THE OF THE PORTFOLIO OF THE PORT.

WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE? IT STARTS AT SIX BASIS POINTS.

ON THE FIRST 50 MILLION. IT GOES TO FIVE ON THE NEXT 50 AND THEN FOUR ON ANYTHING OVER 100.

OKAY. SO WE'RE RIGHT IN THAT 6% OR SIX BASIS POINT.

I'M SORRY. TRANSLATE TO LAYMAN'S TERMS. BASIS POINT CONVERTED TO A PERCENTAGE .06.

2%. YES. .06 PERCENT OF THE PORTFOLIO OF THE PORTFOLIO.

SO WE HAVE TO TAKE WE HAVE TO TAKE YOUR RETURN.

WHAT WAS THE RETURN AGAIN? 5.39% OVER THE LAST YEAR.

5.39 TAKEN AWAY POINT SIX I'M SORRY 5.365.36.

TAKEN AWAY 509. TAKEN AWAY. THE .065 3530 VERSUS 509 IF YOU OKAY OKAY.

AND THAT'S YOUR MANAGEMENT FEE THAT IS. AND YOU GET A MANAGEMENT FEE WHETHER YOU GET POSITIVE RETURNS OR NEGATIVE RETURNS.

CORRECT OKAY. YEAH. IT'S NOT A PERFORMANCE. IT'S NOT PERFORMANCE BASED.

YEAH. YEAH. IT'S NOT OKAY OKAY I KNOW I KNOW OTHER PLACES LIKE MORGAN STANLEY AND GOLDMAN SACHS. THEY THEY CHARGE YOU BASED ON YOUR PORTFOLIO, BUT THEY CAN TAKE MORE RISKS.

LIKE THEY TAKE A LOT MORE FEE TOO. ABSOLUTELY.

THEY CAN INVEST LIKE IN PRIVATE EQUITY AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

WHICH IS YOU'RE VERY LIMITED IN YOUR INVESTMENT THING.

AND GOING BACK TO THAT, CAN THE STATE LAW, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. DOES IT ALLOW YOU TO GO BEYOND CMOS LIKE DO YOU ALLOW ALTERNATIVE INVESTMENTS LIKE PRIVATE EQUITY IN THAT TYPE OF STUFF? THIS THE STATE IS IS VERY BROAD IN THAT IT IS QUIET.

AND IT BASICALLY STATES THAT IF THE GOVERNING BODY APPROVES AN INVESTMENT, YOU CAN DO IT, OKAY. BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT WITH THE MINDSET OF IS THIS REALLY GOING TO PROTECT PRINCIPLE? IS IT REALLY LIQUID? IS IT GOING TO IS IT SAFE AT THE END OF THE DAY? SO YOU COULD SAY, HEY, WE THINK PRIVATE EQUITY IS A REALLY SAFE LIQUID INVESTMENT.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN REALITY IT'S NOT LIQUID, RIGHT? BUT IF YOU MAKE THAT CASE AND YOU ALL VOTE ON IT AND YOU WRITE IT INTO POLICY, THEN I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE I KNOW THE OBVIOUSLY YOU GET BETTER RETURNS.

PENSION FUNDS SEEMS TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN THAN THE MUNICIPAL READING DAYS.

IT SEEMS THAT WAY BECAUSE PENSION FUNDS ARE INVESTED IN PRIVATE EQUITY OR HEDGE FUNDS, WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING A LOT MORE RETURNS COMPARED TO WHAT WE ARE. YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT WE'RE LIMITED TO AND WHAT WE CAN DO. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO YEAH, ASK THAT QUESTION TO SEE THOSE FUNDS ARE HAVE A MUCH LONGER TIME HORIZON.

THESE ARE OPERATING MONIES WHERE YOU MAY NEED THEM IN ONE AND A HALF, TWO YEARS OKAY.

SO YOU NEED LIQUIDITY. YOU NEED THAT IS OKAY.

THAT'S THE KEY. YOU NEED LIQUIDITY. SO THIS IS THIS IS THE SAFEST WAY FOR LIQUIDITY AND EVERYTHING. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR SURE. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS FOR THE MONEY THAT IS BEING INVESTED HERE.

WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS MONEY? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE MONEY? WHAT IS THE END GOAL FOR THE MONEY? OKAY, MAYBE IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.

YEAH. THIS IS, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS IS PART OF OUR POOL CASH AND INVESTMENT.

AND WE'RE DIVERSIFIED IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE HAVE FUNDS EARNING INTEREST IN OUR OPERATING BANK.

WE HAVE TWO GPS. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS LONGER TERM STRATEGY WITH THE MANAGED PORTFOLIO.

SO IT'S ALL PART OF OUR, YOU KNOW OUR PORTFOLIO OF INVESTMENTS.

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RIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS AND WE HAVE THIS MONEY.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE. WE USE THE INTEREST FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

WE USE IT FOR OPERATING. YEAH. THE INTEREST FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

OR IS THIS NOT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MONEY SAVINGS.

NO, BUT WE USE IT. SO IF WE NEED TO BOND OR DO INVESTMENTS AND TAKE LOANS IN ORDER TO HELP ASSIST THE CITY, WHAT WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS OTHER THAN INVESTING IS RIGHT.

YEAH. IT'S JUST PART OF OUR POOL CASH AND AN INVESTMENT AND INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, SITTING WITH IT UNDER HER, UNDER HER MATTRESS, WE WE INVEST IT OUT. SO THE INTEREST THAT WE EARN IS PART OF OUR REVENUE AND IT'S PART OF OUR BUDGET.

IT'S PART OF THE REVENUE THAT WE EARN THAT WE USE FOR OPERATIONS.

THANK YOU. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS INVESTED MONEY IS TO RAISE MORE MONEY IN ORDER TO HELP OUR BUDGET.

RIGHT? YES. BUT BUT JUST BEARING IN MIND THAT THE, OUR, OUR FIRST, OUR FIRST OBJECTIVE IS SAFETY, WHICH IS PRINCIPAL PRESERVATION, WHICH IS WHY WE DON'T INVEST IN RISKIER INVESTMENT.

SO IT'S PRINCIPAL PRESERVATION ONE AND LIQUIDITY, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR WHEN WE NEED TO SPEND, WHETHER PAY SALARIES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, DO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS OR ANYTHING AND AND THEN RISK AND THE RISK COMES IN IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE DIVERSIFY, HOW WE INVEST, HOW MUCH RISK WE ARE WILLING TO TAKE, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IF WE INVEST IN FIXED INCOME SECURITIES AND THE THE VALUE GOES DOWN, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOSS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE.

WE HAVE TO HOLD IT TO MATURITY. SO SO IT'S JUST PART OF OUR OVERALL STRATEGY.

CITY MANAGER YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? SO THE MAYOR THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS NO, THERE'S NO RESTRICTION TO TO THESE DOLLARS. THESE ARE THESE INVESTMENT DOLLARS, BUT THEY'RE PART OF THE CITY'S OVERALL YOU KNOW, PRESENCE. AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR SMART FINANCIAL STRATEGIES THAT THE CITY HAS ABILITY TO HAVE MONEY.

GOD FORBID THERE'S AN EMERGENCY. BUT WE PROTECT THE PRINCIPLE THAT IS PUT IN THERE, BUT WISELY, SPEND THE INTEREST THAT COMES OUT OF IT FOR THINGS THAT THE CITY SHOULD NEED IF IT GOES INTO OUR BUDGET LINES.

IF I'M HEARING IT SUPPLEMENTS THE CITY'S OVERALL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, 5% WAS $2 MILLION, RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT. SO IT IT'S A IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT.

IT'S A GOOD LOOK. I THINK IT'S GREAT. IT'S JUST PREPARING TO GO INTO A FINANCIAL SERVICES FINANCIAL OVERVIEW.

RIGHT. A QUARTERLY OVERVIEW NEXT. AND GOING INTO STRATEGIC PLANNING, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS IS $40 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO PLAY WITH AND TAKE OUT TO USE IT FOR OTHER THINGS.

IT IS USEFUL OPERATION. THE THE INTEREST IS RIGHT, RIGHT.

THE GROWTH OF IT GOES INTO IT, BUT WE NEED THE BASIS OR THE PRINCIPLE TO BE AS IT STANDS, IN ORDER TO RAISE THE MONEY THAT WE NEED FOR OPERATIONAL SUPPORT. ANY MUNICIPAL ORGANIZATION THIS, THIS KIND OF A PORTFOLIO IS PART OF ANY MUNICIPAL ORGANIZATION TO SUPPLEMENT THE CITY'S INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW.

OPERATIONS AND AND SUPPLEMENTED TAX BASE. YEAH.

AND JUST TO POINT OUT THAT IN 2024, OUR INVESTMENT INCOME WAS 8.8 MILLION.

AND ON OUR PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FOR 2025, OUR INVESTMENT INCOME WAS 9 MILLION.

SO SO PRETTY WELL. SO THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE $40 MILLION, WHICH WE THAT WE MANAGE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

THERE'S ANOTHER 275 MILLION THAT'S INVESTED MORE CONSERVATIVELY IN CASH AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL.

SO COMBINATION OF ALL THAT MONEY GETS TO THAT NUMBER THAT THAT CHRISTINE JUST SHARED WITH YOU, WHICH ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THE CITY.

YEAH, EXACTLY. OKAY. GOOD JOB. IT'S NOT A NOTHING NEGATIVE.

JUST GOOD QUESTION. YOUR COMPANY AS A WHOLE. HOW MUCH MONEY DO THEY MOVE? YOU GET 40 FROM US. HOW MUCH DO YOU GET FROM ALL YOUR OTHER CLIENTS? WE MANAGE ROUGHLY $46 BILLION. SO ANY MOVE YOU MAKE MATTERS.

BASICALLY, ANY MONEY THAT WE MAKE MATTERS. ANY MOVE YOU MAKE, ANY MOVE WE MAKE MATTERS.

SAY YES TO BOTH, ACTUALLY. RIGHT. YEAH. IT DOES, IT DOES.

IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE A SIZABLE FIRM.

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YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT.

WE WANT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S THAT SAFETY.

I THINK WE ALL LIKE THAT SAFETY. YEAH. AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON APPLE.

WE'VE INVESTED IN APPLE OVER THE YEARS AND JUST LEFT IT ALONE.

EVERY TIME I SEE IT I SMILE. I AGREE. SHE WANTS TO KEEP SMILING.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE ALONG TO 11.

[1.c. Quarterly Financial Update Presented by Financial Services Director, Christine Cajuste ]

AND SCOTT, YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY. BUT I HAVE A FEELING YOU ARE GOING TO LEAVE US.

I AM LATE FOR A MEETING. WELL, SORRY FOR MAKING YOU LATE, BUT THANK YOU.

YOU'RE ALL RIGHT. IT WAS GOOD SPENDING TIME WITH YOU. AND I HOPE I ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS APPROPRIATELY. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I LEAVE HERE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T ASK MORE.

I'M. CHRISTINE KNOWS HOW TO GET AHOLD OF ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANKS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

FLOOR IS YOURS. I'LL GO BRIEFLY. SO THIS IS OUR FIRST QUARTER FINANCIAL UPDATE.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR REVENUES. EXPENDITURE FOR THE FIRST QUARTER.

THAT IS OCTOBER TO DECEMBER 2025. VERY BRIEFLY, THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF OUR YEAR TO DATE REVENUES, WHAT WE COLLECTED. WE HAVE COLLECTED 41% OF WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED 66% IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS THE, OF COURSE, OUR LARGEST FUND. AND HERE IS A LOOK AT OUR EXPENDITURES.

WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE FUNDS ARE BELOW THAT TARGETED 25%.

WE'VE SPENT 24% OF THE GENERAL FUND SO FAR, WHICH IS 28.2 MILLION.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE DEEPER INTO OPERATING FUNDS.

AND AS WE LOOK AT THEM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE THESE ARE THE THE LEGENDS WHERE YOU SEE GREEN, IT MEANS THAT FOR REVENUE, WE'RE ABOVE THE TARGETED 25% FOR EXPENDITURES.

WE'RE BELOW THE TARGETED 20%. WE'RE YELLOW. THAT MEANS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT ABOVE TARGET, BUT NOT BUT NOT NOT IN THE RED, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE BELOW TARGET.

DEPENDING IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT REVENUE OR EXPENDITURES FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

THEY'RE BOTH GREEN, MEANING THAT THE REVENUE IS ABOVE TARGET, EXPENDITURES ARE BELOW TARGET, AND SO IS THE THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND, THE ENTERPRISE FUND AND INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.

NOT DOING SO, SO WELL, WHICH MEANS DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY WON'T CATCH UP.

BUT AT DECEMBER 31ST YOU KNOW THERE ARE BELOW TARGET.

YOU'RE WE'RE TAKING A DEEPER LOOK AT THE THE GENERAL FUND AS USUAL, OUR PROPERTY TAX BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES ARE DUE IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. UP UNTIL WE GET MOST OF IT IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WE ARE ABOVE TARGET AT 84%.

ALL THE OTHER FUNDS ARE, LIKE ALL THE OTHER REVENUE CATEGORIES ARE IN LINE.

SLIGHTLY BELOW, BUT IT'S MOSTLY DUE TO THE TIMING OF WHEN THESE ITEMS ARE RECEIVED.

TAKING A LOOK AT EXPENDITURES EVERYONE IS DOING PRETTY WELL.

YOU KNOW, CITY COMMISSION IS AT 29%. WE HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU KNOW, THE LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY.

IT'S ONLY THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE YEAR.

AND ALL THE OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE TARGET IS BECAUSE THEY'VE ISSUED PURCHASE ORDER.

THAT AND THE PURCHASE ORDER IS ALREADY COMMITTED.

SO IT'S IT'S COUNTED IN THEIR EXPENDITURE LINE.

WE SEE A SIMILAR SITUATION FOR FIRE RESCUE. BECAUSE FIRE RESCUE FIRE ASSESSMENT ASSESSMENTS ARE RECEIVED NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. SO THEY'RE AT 47.46%. WE SEE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AT 13.89%.

AND THAT'S ALL HAS TO DO WITH TIMING OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN, YOU KNOW, PERMITS ARE ISSUED AND WHEN FUNDS ARE RECEIVED.

AND IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURE, THERE ARE BOTH IN LINE WITH TARGET.

THEY'RE BELOW 20 BELOW 25%. AND HERE WE SEE STORMWATER AT 96.36%. AND I THINK THE 2520, 25 NUMBER IS A LITTLE BIT OFF THERE AT 96.36%.

BECAUSE OF PROPERTY TAXES, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FEES ARE COLLECTED AS PART OF YOUR PROPERTY TAXES FOR UTILITIES WERE 17.64%.

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AND THE GOLF COURSE FUND IS AT 28.63% ON THE EXPENDITURE LINE, WE SEE THAT THE UTILITIES ARE ABOVE THE 42.27%, AND THAT'S MAINLY DUE TO PURCHASE ORDERS BEING ISSUED FOR FOR PROJECTS THAT'S BEING DONE, THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS YOU NEVER CAN, CAN PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE, IN THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND BECAUSE THIS IS MAINLY BASED ON CLAIMS AND OTHER FACTORS.

SO EXPENDITURE IS 36.616%, WHICH IS ABOVE AND REVENUE IS 12.81% FOR THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND AND FOR THE HEALTH INSURANCE.

HEALTH INSURANCE, THE REVENUE IS 26.4, WHICH IS IN LINE AND THE EXPENDITURE IS 27.27%.

THIS THIS SLIDE IS JUST THE WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF BUDGET.

WE BUDGETED 294,000,001 57 FOR 62. WE HAVE ITEMS THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU IN THE FORM OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED IN SOME OTHER FORM OR FASHION THAT WILL ADD TO THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET IN THE COMING.

IN THE COMING MONTHS, YOU WILL SEE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT COME BEFORE YOU TO INCREASE THE BUDGET TO 294 468 010.

AND THIS LAST SLIDE I PUT IN HERE JUST TO GIVE YOU A SYNOPSIS.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING UP TO STRATEGIC PLANNING.

I KNOW WHEN WE HAD SPOKEN TO YOU BEFORE, WE HAD PREDICTED THAT FUND BALANCE MAY BE SOMEWHERE IN THE ROUND IN THE REGION OF 38 MILLION.

PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FOR OUR 2025 YEAR END. THE THE THE FUND BALANCE HAS DECREASED BY 6.3 MILLION, AND OUR UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE FOR 2025 IS 34.8 4,000,408.

NOW WE'RE REQUIRED BY POLICY TO KEEP 16.6% OF OUR ANNUAL EXPENDITURE AS RESERVE, WHICH IS 19.65 MILLION. SO WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR 2027 CIP IS 15.7 MILLION. AND WITH THAT, I WILL. MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY, CHRISTINE WOULD YOU CLARIFY SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THAT THAT THESE DOLLARS DO NOT INCLUDE AND OUTSIDE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE BUDGETED FOR FY 26 CAPITAL PROJECTS. NO. NO, IT DOES NOT.

OKAY, SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION. THE $27 MILLION THAT WE BUDGETED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE $27 MILLION OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE THAT WE ALLOCATED TO CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS PICTURE HERE.

YES. OKAY. YES. OKAY. OKAY. NO, NO.

I. I GUESS YES. OKAY. SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY.

OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST WHAT THAT WAS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FISCAL YEAR END, YEAR TO DATE EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES FOR 2025, BUT WE'RE PROJECTING A 2027 CIP BUDGET.

I'M CONFUSED. WELL BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT SAVINGS WE HAVE LEFT OVER 125 WAS WAS DONE, 2025 WAS DONE. WHAT HOW MUCH WE HAVE NOW TO SPEND OR SAVE ON OUR NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.

AND THAT'S THE 34 MILLION. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE, MINUS WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN, MINUS WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FOR 2026. YES. SO WHY IS THIS? I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS IS.

WHY THIS? WHAT IS THIS TRYING TO TELL US? IT WAS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT.

SO THAT DOES MAKE IT. IT DOES GIVE IT GIVES SOME APPEARANCE.

RIGHT. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS THESE THESE NUMBERS IS THAT AS WE PREPARE FOR THE STRATEGIC PLANNING CONVERSATION AND

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THIS GIVES US A PICTURE THAT THAT THAT WOULD GUIDE OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS PRIORITIZATION FOR, FOR FY 27 AND BEYOND. FAIR.

I JUST THINK THAT THAT SHOULD THAT SHOULD BE.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE HAVE THIS SLIDE IS NOT COMPLETELY REPRESENTED, REPRESENTED WITHOUT THAT ADDITIONAL FACT THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS SCHEDULED FOR 27 ALREADY HAVE AN APPROPRIATION, THIS WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE. NO. THE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR FY 26 OR APPROVED IN IN FY 26 BUDGET ARE APPROPRIATED. AND OUTSIDE OF THESE NUMBERS FOR 2026 BUT 2027, WE HAVE NO APPROPRIATION FOR 2027.

SO IF A PROJECT FROM FY 26 IS A MULTI YEAR PROJECT, THE ENTIRETY OR MAJORITY OF THAT PROJECT WHATEVER IS FUNDED IN FY 26 BUDGET IS BUDGETED AND ALLOCATED AND OUTSIDE OF THESE NUMBERS.

SO THIS NUMBER NOW IS WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH FOR TODAY FOR FY 27 CAPITAL PROJECTS NOT ANTICIPATING REVENUES. TRUE. IT MAY CHANGE YOU KNOW DURING THE YEAR UP AND DOWN.

BUT TODAY THAT'S THE. ESTIMATED NUMBER. SO WE HAVE 34 MILLION.

THOSE PROJECTS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR 34 MILLION.

AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL 41 MILLION IN LIQUIDITY.

LIQUIDITY ACCOUNT. NO NO, NO I'M NOT I'M JUST SAYING I'M JUST SAYING THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE.

YEAH. BUT I'M SAYING THAT THAT MONEY IS STILL WE STILL THAT'S STILL OUR MONEY. I'M JUST SAYING JUST TO CONFIRM. YES. THAT'S STILL THAT'S STILL MONEY THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC HAS AVAILABLE. YEAH. THIS IS OUR FUND BALANCE. I KNOW, I GET IT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT'S LIKE YOU'RE INVESTING. IT'S LIKE YOUR PERSONAL ACCOUNT. YOU HAVE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT, YOU HAVE YOUR CHARLES SCHWAB WITH YOUR INVESTMENT ACCOUNT, AND YOU HAVE YOUR WHATEVER, BUT YOU CAN I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO POOL CASH AND INVESTMENT. SO THAT WHOLE 41 MILLION DOESN'T BELONG TO THE GENERAL FUND.

WE HAVE OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS TO DO THAT. OKAY, OKAY.

JUST TO CONFIRM JUST TO DIFFERENT THINGS ARE IN THERE. SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE 34 MILLION IN OUR SAVINGS IN THE GENERAL FUND. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THERE. 34 OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO ONE D. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE TAKING A BREAK AT NOON IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

THANK YOU FOR 45 MINUTES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE

[1.d. Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Advisory Board Name Change Discussion Presented by Judy Hunter, DEI Board Chair ]

NAME CHANGE DISCUSSION. IT WILL BE PRESENTED BY JUDY HUNTER, OUR BOARD CHAIR.

WELCOME, JUDY. AND ALSO MELISSA PETRONE, OUR PARK AND REC DIRECTOR.

IF I SCREWED UP YOUR TITLES, I DO APOLOGIZE. GOOD MORNING.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER MELISSA PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR.

AND ALONG WITH ME IS JUDY HUNTER, OUR CHAIR OF OUR DEI BOARD.

WE COME IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. AS YOU KNOW, IN 2020, THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE CREATION OF THE DEI BOARD.

BUT AS EXECUTIVE ORDERS IN 2025 WAS TO ELIMINATE SOME DEI PROGRAMS. SO BECAUSE OF THIS, THE BOARD LOOKED INTO REBRANDING AND RENAMING THE BOARD.

SO JUDY HERE IS TO PRESENT TO YOU ON A POSSIBLE NAME CHANGE AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK.

YOU KNOW, EITHER APPROVAL OR WHETHER THEY GOT TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. BUT SHE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH IN THEIR MEETINGS.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION BOARD, EXCUSE ME, PROPOSED THE NAME CHANGE TO REFLECT A SHIFT IN FOCUS TOWARDS A BROADER SCOPE AND MISSION BASED ON THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

OUR MISSION TO TO HAVE CLARITY AND ACCESSIBILITY TO ALL.

THE MISSION TO REFLECT COMMUNITY INPUT, EMPHASIZING ACTION, AND TO REFLECT POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SENSITIVITY. AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS AND MANY HOURS OF DISCUSSION, THE BOARD MEMBERS VOTED TO CHANGE THE NAME FROM DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION ADVISORY BOARD TO CULTURE, ACCESSIBILITY, ENGAGEMENT AND REPRESENTATION

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IT RECOGNIZES AND CELEBRATES BOTH COMMONALITIES AND INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES.

THE ATTRIBUTES OF TAMARAC S COMMUNITIES ARE INTENTIONALLY BROAD AND ADAPTABLE, DEVELOPING A CULTURE OF RESPECT, APPRECIATION, RESPECT AMONG ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE A IS ACCESSIBILITY, FOSTERING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE ALL INDIVIDUALS FEEL RESPECTED, SUPPORTED AND ABLE TO PARTICIPATE FULLY IN ALL THE VALUES, THE UNIQUE EXPERIENCES AND PERSPECTIVES THAT RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES AND BUSINESSES BRING, CONTRIBUTING TO A MORE COHESIVE AND PRODUCTIVE COMMUNITY.

THE E ENGAGEMENT FOSTERS A SENSE OF BELONGING.

THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO INVESTING IN ITS WELL-BEING OF ITS RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES, SUPPORTING BUSINESSES, AND MAINTAINING AN ATMOSPHERE THAT REFLECTS THE CITY'S VALUES.

AND THE R REPRESENTATION ENSURES THAT BOARDS AFFECT THE BOARD'S EFFORTS, REFLECT THE VOICES AND NEEDS OF RESIDENTS, CITY EMPLOYEES AND BUSINESSES.

PROMOTES CONSIDERATION AND PARTICIPATION, STRENGTHENING TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THE BOARD TOOK THIS PROACTIVE STEP BECAUSE OUR MISSION EXTENDS FAR BEYOND RACE OR ETHNICITY.

SO ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, I ASK THAT YOU CARE ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE DEI BOARD'S NAME TO CARE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. MELISSA, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? NO, I JUST WELL, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THE BOARD HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW, AND MULTIPLE MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS. THEY CAME UP WITH OTHER PROPOSALS AND THEN KIND OF WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. AND SO THIS WAS THE ONE THAT THEY WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THE CARE YOU TOOK IN DOING THIS VERY MUCH.

I'M JUST GOING TO ASK HIM ONE QUESTION. WHY DID WE WHY DID THE BOARD DECIDE TO NOT PUT THE R BEFORE THE.

IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON FOR THAT? NO. OKAY.

WE WANT IT TO BE FANCY. FANCY AND DIFFERENT IS GOOD.

WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE UNIQUE AND WE APPRECIATE IT. AND THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF OUR BOARD. THIS ORIGINALLY MY RECOLLECTION OF THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MULTICULTURAL BOARD, AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HELP THE CITY PARK AND REC BOARD WITH OUR MULTICULTURAL ONE TAMARAC AND ALL OF THAT.

SO PERSONALLY, I APPRECIATE THE PROACTIVE RESPONSE THAT YOUR BOARD HAS DONE AND THE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT IN IT TO MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO ACTUALLY YOURS. RIGHT? THE BOARD CAME UP WITH IT, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF FIVE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY THAT IS APPOINTED BY THE COMMISSION. AND SO YOU DID AS A BOARD AS OPPOSED TO MADE IT YOURS AS YOUR TOUCH ON IT AND BRINGING IT BACK TO WHAT YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. I SEE COMMISSIONER DANIELS HAD HER TURNED OVER FIRST AND COMMISSIONER VICE.

MAYOR. BOLTON. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

YOU'RE EVERYWHERE. APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. ALL THE VOLUNTEERING THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO THE CITY.

MY QUESTION STEMS FROM AROUND THE CARE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF CARE AND THE PROACTIVENESS OF CHANGING THE TITLE TO COMPLY WITH THE CHANGE IN LAWS AND POLICY. HOWEVER, WHEN I LOOK UP CARE THE WAY IT'S SPELLED, IT MEANS TO FALL, TO DROP, TO DECLINE. SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE PUT IT THE REGULAR WAY, WAY THAT HAS THE MEANING WHERE CARE SUPPORT TO HELP, TO AID, TO ENCOURAGE. BECAUSE YEAH, THE MEANING DOESN'T GO ALONG WITH WHAT YOUR WHAT WHAT YOU PUT UP THERE.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. OKAY. WELL COMMISSIONER DANIELS STOLE MY THUNDER. EXACTLY ONE OF MY POINTS. NEVERTHELESS THIS SOUNDS LIKE A NAME CHANGE. HOWEVER, I'M NOT SURE IF THE ACTIVITIES WILL CHANGE.

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I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT THIS DOES THAT AND NAME CHANGE TO TAKE OUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND THAT SORT OF STUFF THAT THE DEI STUFF.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IN MY OPINION. DOING DOING THE SAME DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION STUFF, BUT UNDER A DIFFERENT UMBRELLA.

SO HOW DO YOU PROPOSE THAT WHAT YOU USUALLY DO IS NOW COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, IN LINE WITH STATE LAW AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MEDIA? ONE EXAMPLE MIGHT BE LAST YEAR I CAME BEFORE YOU WITH THE CLAIMS THAT WE WOULD, THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO BUSINESSES TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF ALL PEOPLE.

WE WELCOME ALL PEOPLE INTO OUR BUSINESSES IN LINE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN CHANGING WITH THE GOVERNMENT, WITH THE STATE INITIATIVES AND THE WORD DIE OR PHRASE DIE.

WE KNOW AND RECOGNIZE THAT BUSINESSES MAY NOT WANT OUR CLAIM THAT WILL SAY DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION FOR THE MANY REASONS THAT YOU KNOW WOULD FOLLOW. MAYBE THEY'RE GETTING GOVERNMENT MONEY, OR MAYBE THEY NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH IT.

SO WITH THE NEW ACRONYM OF CARE, WE ALLEVIATE THAT.

SO THE THE DEI BOARD FORMALLY MAYBE WOULD STILL WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE, WOULD STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE RAMPS WHERE THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABILITIES NEED THEM WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO AND AS A CITY THAT HAS NOW IS RECOGNIZED FOR AUTISM, WE ESPECIALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY HAS DEI, BUT UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF CARE. SO OUR FOCI HASN'T CHANGED.

OUR MINDSETS HASN'T CHANGED AS OUR CITY HAS NOT CHANGED WITH WHAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

AND I ALWAYS INCLUDE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE EVERYBODY WHO WORKS MATTERS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE CHANGING. OKAY. BUT THEREIN LIES THE QUESTION, RIGHT? THE IDEOLOGY HAS NOT CHANGED. YOUR ACTIVITY HAS NOT CHANGED.

YOUR MINDSET HAS NOT CHANGED. BUT THE NAME OF THE BOARD HAS CHANGED.

AND I'M NOT I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THE THE STATE WOULD, YOU KNOW, LEAVE US ALONE IF WE HAVE A BOARD THAT DOES EXACTLY WHAT THE BOARD DID, BUT UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME.

AND I SAY THAT WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I'M A CHAMPION FOR AS A CHAMPION FOR THAT BOARD.

AND I STARTED ONE TAMARAC MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

LONG BEFORE MY COLLEAGUES CAME ON TO COMMISSION, I'VE BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH MAKING SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS INCLUSIVE AND AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST I JUST HAVE TO BALANCE, YOU KNOW, WHO I AM AND WHAT I STAND FOR, WITH WHERE THE WORLD IS GOING AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR CITY IS PROTECTED FROM LAWSUITS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. I'VE FOLLOWED THE MEDIA VERY CLOSELY.

I SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER CITIES YOU KNOW, AND BEING A WELCOMING CITY, YOU KNOW, FOR LGBTQ PLUS I A INITIATIVES CAME, YOU KNOW, BUT ARE WE RUNNING AFOUL OF THE LAW AND ARE WE PUTTING UNNECESSARY EYES ON OUR LITTLE CITY. IT'S JUST MY CONCERN.

VICE MAYOR, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? NO.

I'M JUST. I'M JUST STATING. I'M JUST STATING MY OPINION, FOR THE RECORD.

THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M. I'M PARTICULARLY WORRIED ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS BOARD

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I'VE READ THE MIAMI HERALD ARTICLES. I'VE SEEN THE GOVERNOR IN ACTION.

I'VE SEEN THE THE PRESIDENT IN ACTION. I'VE SEEN POLITICIANS IN ACTION.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND I'M FIRST TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I, I AGREE WITH THINGS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

AND I'VE NEVER SHIED AWAY FROM THAT. SO I JUST WANT US TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

IT'S IT'S TOUGH TIMES. IT'S, YOU KNOW, CRAZY TIMES, SCARY TIMES.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, COMING BEFORE A BODY LIKE THIS IN PUBLIC AND SAY WE'RE CHANGING THE NAME, BUT WE'RE DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE USED TO DO IS IS YET MORE SCARY.

RIGHT. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THIS BOARD OVER THE PAST YEAR? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT PRIOR TO COMING BEFORE YOU, WE MELISSA DID SPEAK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE UNDER MAXINE. CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

AND ALSO THE BOARD ATTORNEY. UNDER WHAT'S YOUR NAME? I DON'T KNOW. ANYWAY SO WE DIDN'T JUST THROW IT OUT THERE.

AND THEY, THEY SENT MELISSA BACK FEEDBACK. SO THIS BOARD HAS PARTICIPATED IN ALL OF THE COMMUNITY CITYWIDE FUNCTIONS. WE STOPPED PARTICIPATING UNDER THE NAME OF DIE WITH OUR BANNERS, OUR FLIERS, AND OUR BROCHURES.

BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE GOVERNMENT AND WITH THE STATE.

I KNOW WE'RE COMING UP ON A BREAK SOON, AND I WANT TO GIVE MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CHANGING.

BUT I WANT TO PARTICULARLY KNOW WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE PAST YEAR.

SO WHAT WHAT HAS THE BOARD ACCOMPLISHED? AND IF I COULD GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, COULD THE BOARD COULD THE CITY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THOSE THINGS WITHOUT THE BOARD? YOUR HONEST OPINION IS SOLICITED. I'LL LET I'LL REFER TO YOU.

WELL, I PARTICIPATE WITH THE BOARD, BUT SAMMY IS OUR LIAISON AND WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.

SO JUDY HAS INFORMED ME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THEY'VE DONE OVER THE PAST YEAR, WHICH I KNOW THE KILLING WAS ONE OF THEM.

THEY DIDN'T PUSH FORWARD THROUGH THE FINAL PHASE OF IT DUE TO THIS.

AND THEN THEIR NEXT PROJECT WAS COMING UP WITH VARIOUS NAMES FOR THE BOARD.

SO THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE SENT THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THE NAMES THAT WERE PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, WERE SENT BACK. SO WE WENT BACK TO THE BOARD AND THE BOARD'S WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NAMES AND THE THINGS. IT DID GO ON FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS. WHAT? WHAT IS YOUR CLAIM TO FAME? WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE PAST YEAR AS A BOARD? BECAUSE IF IT'S TAKING YOU TEN MINUTES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED, IT MEANS YOU'VE NOT ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING.

AND AND I MEAN, I LOVE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.

I LOVE YOU LIKE YOU ARE MY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE FAN.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE. WE'RE YIN AND YANG. WE'RE IT.

RIGHT? LIKE YOU, YOU'RE THAT GO TO PERSON FOR ME.

AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT I'M TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR BOARD AND SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE WORKED SO HARD FOR.

I'M JUST CAUTIOUS, AND I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT WORTH THE HEADACHE.

AND IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE STOP THE BUS WHERE IT'S AT AND PAUSE AND WATCH AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING. BECAUSE THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT IS FOR SOMEBODY TO TAKE THIS PRESENTATION.

AND SEND IT TO TALLAHASSEE OR WASHINGTON AND SAY, LOOK WHAT THIS LITTLE CITY IS DOING.

THEY'VE CHANGED THE NAME. SAME PIG, DIFFERENT LIPSTICK.

I'M NOT WEARING MY COLORED LIPSTICK TODAY, BUT THIS SAME PIG, DIFFERENT LIPSTICK.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S NOT WORTH THE HEADACHE.

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IT'S JUST MY OPINION, I JUST. AND NOBODY ELSE HAS TO AGREE WITH ME.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

JUST PUT THE BRAKES ON IT. JUST. YEAH, CHANGE THE NAME AND KEEP IT THERE AND WATCH WHAT HAPPENS.

MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE. MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE THE NAME BASED ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

MY CARD WAS TURNED OVER. YEAH, SO. BUT I CAN'T SEE BEHIND YOUR BOOK.

AND YOU FINISH, AND I HAVE. YEAH. AND THEN YOU SPOKE, AND NOW VICE MAYOR IS GOING.

COMMISSIONER PATTERSON IS NEXT. OKAY. YEAH, I'M.

I'M JUST I'M JUST SAYING WE WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS.

WE HAVE WE HAVE OTHER WITH OTHER BIG THINGS TO LOOK FORWARD TO AND TO DO AND TO TO BRING HEAT TO OUR CITY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF A LITTLE BOARD, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL LEADERS, WHOEVER THEY ARE, SOMETIMES ARE PETTY AND THEY CAN MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF US. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

AND PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY.

AND I DON'T WANT US TO BE THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY TAKE.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

COMMISSIONER DANIEL. OH, NO. I WAS JUST AGREEING.

I TURNED OVER MY CARD. I THOUGHT HE HAD STOPPED.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ARGUMENT WAS ABOUT, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

I'M JUST SAYING CARE, BASICALLY, TO DEPICT WHAT WE WERE SAYING.

YOUR CAKES CARE. DECLINE. STOP. DROP. FALL. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE RULES AND JUST PUT IT TO AN END.

HOWEVER, WHAT YOU DESCRIBED HERE IS THINGS WE SHOULD BE DOING.

PERIOD. RIGHT? SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT PARK AND REC SHOULD IMPLEMENT, PERIOD.

WE DON'T NEED A BOARD TO SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE IN THE DIRECTOR'S HAND TO MAKE SURE THAT.

THEY'RE CULTURALLY RELEVANT TO OUR RESIDENTS MEETING THE DIVERSITY, THE NEEDS OF THE.

THE DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. WE HAVE ACCESSIBILITY, ENGAGEMENT AND REPRESENTATION.

SO I THINK ANY POLICY OR ANY RULE THAT PARKER MADE SHOULD COMPLY WITH THESE SPECIFIC CATEGORY.

AND TO TRULY, YOU KNOW, BASED ON INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED LATELY.

TRULY LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE SURE ALL YOUR POLICY DOES FOLLOW THIS AND COMPLY WITH THIS.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY ASK. I DON'T MIND DROPPING THE BOARD.

WHAT'S MORE IMPACTFUL IS IF WE ARE ENGAGING OUR CULTURALLY RELEVANT TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE AND HAVE REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS SENSITIVE ON ALL FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM FROM YOU, YOUR FROM YOUR POSITION.

FROM OUR POSITION. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. I GUESS ONE OF THEM WOULD BE, IS THERE ANY FISCAL IMPACT FOR THE BOARD AT THIS MOMENT? NO, THERE'S NO FISCAL IMPACT. IS THERE STAFF TIME JUST WHEN THEY DO THE MONTHLY MEETINGS AND AGENDA PUTTING THE AGENDA TOGETHER IN THE MINUTES WAS THE FREQUENCY OF THE COMMITTEES GATHERING ONCE A MONTH? ONCE A MONTH? MISS JUDY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED? WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? I HAVE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE WHO WORK AT COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES AND ALSO PEOPLE IN THE STATE, AND THEY HAVE HAD TO REVAMP THEIR PROGRAMS TO ALIGN WITH WHAT IS GOING ON WITH OUR GOVERNMENT AND WHAT THE NEW LAWS HAVE CHANGED.

THEY HAVE NOT STOPPED ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'VE REVAMPED WORDING, THEY'VE REVAMPED HOW THEY PROCEED.

SO HOWEVER THIS, YOU KNOW, LISTING BOARD DECIDES THAT'S WHAT WE'LL FOLLOW.

BUT YOU DIDN'T TELL ME WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. IF INDEED, AS DOCTOR DANIELS SAID PARKS AND REC IS ALREADY OR SHOULD ALREADY BE DOING ALL OF THESE THINGS, THEN IN FACT, THERE IS PROBABLY NOT A NECESSITY FOR THE BOARD IF PARKS AND REC ARE DOING THESE THINGS, BUT DO NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER TO SIT AND PLAN TO GO

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BUT I THINK OUT OF ALL THE BOARDS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, THE BOARD IS PRETTY MEETS PRETTY REGULAR.

THANK YOU. SO ATTORNEY TO MISS JUDY'S COMMENTS.

SHE SHE MADE SOME MENTION OF SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE HAD TO REVAMP THEIR PROCESSES AS A RESULT OF LEGISLATION.

WHAT ARE THERE ANY AND AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MY EAR IS LENT OVER TO WHAT THE VICE MAYOR IS PROFFERING AS WELL. AND HAVE THERE BEEN ANY AG OPINIONS? SURELY WE WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST PERSON AT THIS POINT BASED ON WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

HAS THE AG WEIGHED IN AT ANY ON ANY LEVEL IN TERMS OF ANY, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CLAIMS, ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. AT THIS POINT MOST OF THE LEGISLATION IMPACTS STATE AGENCIES AND NOT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A PROPOSED BILL THAT'S BEING CIRCULATED IN TALLAHASSEE.

I THINK I GAVE COPIES TO CITY MANAGER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ATTACKING SO-CALLED D-I PROGRAMS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. BUT CITIES, YOU KNOW, HAVE TAKEN SOME PROACTIVE STEPS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY MAYBE CHANGE NAMES AND CHANGE THEIR POLICY.

BUT WE ARE AT THIS POINT, UNLESS THERE'S SOME FUNDING MECHANISM TIED TO STATE AGENCIES, WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE STATE, THE DIRECTIVE OR LAW THAT ONLY APPLIES TO STATE AGENCY.

BUT THERE IS A PROPOSED BILL BEING CIRCULATED RIGHT NOW RELATING TO DEI PROGRAMS AT LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL.

SO I WOULD MY, MY, MY POSITION WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S BEEN A HEALTHY DISCUSSION.

I AM CONCERNED THAT WE FOCUSED ON ON A NAME CHANGE FOR A YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS THE BEST USE OF OUR TIME, BUT IF PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERING ESPECIALLY RIGHT, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME OBJECTIVES. WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION RECENTLY AS IT RELATES TO NONPROFITS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND I THINK THAT IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE SOME OBJECTIVES.

AND IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT THAT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOME STAFF TIME INVOLVED.

SO THERE IS SOME FISCAL IMPACT TO THE TO THE GROUP.

I'M CONSCIOUS OF WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED BY MY COLLEAGUES.

I WOULD PREFER THAT YOU GUYS GO BACK, REVAMP YOUR MISSION AND YOUR VISION.

AND IT'S AND AND THE COMMITTEE IN ITS ENTIRETY.

YOU GUYS HAVE A CONVERSATION HOLISTICALLY OUTSIDE OF JUST A NAME CHANGE.

FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD COULD BE MOVING FORWARD.

AND HOW YOU LOOP IN SOME OF THE DESIRES, YOU KNOW, TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE ON WHATEVER LEVEL, BUT REVAMP THE MISSION AND VISION AND BRING SOME OBJECTIVES FORWARD THAT WOULD MAKE THE BOARD PURPOSEFUL.

FOR THIS COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO REANALYZE WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER.

I THINK A NAME CHANGE ALONE ISN'T SUFFICE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE VICE MAYOR WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT.

OR, AND MY COLLEAGUES WOULD BE AMENABLE TO MAYBE THAT AS A APPROACH.

BUT PERHAPS YOU GUYS COME BACK WITH SOME, SOME, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME MEASURABLE OBJECTIVES AND HOW YOU COULD BE A SUPPLEMENT TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT MOVING FORWARD. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

BEFORE. WELL, VICE MAYOR'S GOT HIS GEARS GOING.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SAY, COMMISSIONER? RIGHT.

YOUR YOUR YOUR STORY. NO. I'M DONE. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER RIGHT. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU.

WHAT WAS THE INITIAL IDEA OF PURPOSE? OF THE DEI BOARD.

INITIALLY. IT WAS MULTICULTURAL BOARD. YEAH, IT WAS A MULTICULTURAL BOARD TO ASSIST THE CITY OF TAMARAC WITH OUR ONE TAMARAC. AND TO GROW AS OUR CITY WAS BECOMING MORE CULTURALLY INCLUSIVE.

I'M LOOKING AT THE EMAIL THAT PAM SENT US IN TERMS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IT SAYS THAT THE REFORMS ARE FEDERAL IN NATURE, DO NOT APPLY TO STATES SPECIFICALLY AS THE WHITE HOUSE. SO OBVIOUSLY, IT'S CHANGING SENTIMENTS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE IN TERMS OF DEI.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THE BUSINESSES WEREN'T RECEPTIVE TO TO STUFF.

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WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE DOING, I THINK YOU'RE PUTTING, LIKE, STICKERS ON THE DOORS. YEAH, A LITTLE CLING, A LITTLE CLING. IT IS NOT THAT THEY WERE NOT RECEPTIVE.

IT IS NOT THAT WE WERE ASKED BY THIS BOARD TO CHANGE THE NAME.

WE KNEW. I READ THE NEWS A LOT, AND SO I THOUGHT THAT I BROUGHT IT TO THE BOARD LAST YEAR SOMETIME, THAT WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE AND CONSIDER A NAME CHANGE BECAUSE THERE ARE BUSINESSES AND OTHERS WHO WOULD NOT WANT DYE ON THEIR WINDOW CLEAN.

SO THAT'S WHERE THIS INITIATED FROM. SO GOING BACK TO VICE MAYOR'S POINT I THINK IN MY READING OF THE NEWS AS WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO LOOK FOR ANYONE WHO HAS ANYTHING AFFILIATED WITH DYE.

SO EVEN IF YOU MIGHT CHANGE YOUR NAME, THE ALGORITHMS CAN SCRUB THE WEBSITE.

AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME MISSION, SAME WORDS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF IN REFERENCE TO DIE FROM FROM WHAT I'VE READ, IT SEEMS LIKE ANYONE WHO HAS ANY THINGS THAT ARE AFFILIATED WITH DIE CAN IT WOULD AFFECT FEDERAL FUNDING, IT WOULD AFFECT STATE FUNDING. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN KIND OF QUANTIFY.

WE WE WE WE CAN'T QUANTIFY THE DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE, THE INCLUSIVENESS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THE IDEA OF DIE, WHY, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF GOT HIJACKED IT POLITICALLY, IT HAS BECOME, YOU KNOW, POLITICALLY CHARGED. AND I THINK THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARIES OF DIE, FROM WHAT I'VE READ IN TERMS OF MCKINSEY, HAVE BEEN WOMEN, PREDOMINANTLY WHITE WOMEN IN TERMS OF 65%.

AND I THINK THE NARRATIVE HAS BEEN HIJACKED. WE HAVE A WOMEN'S COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A WOMEN'S COMMITTEE ON RULES COMMITTEE.

BUT I THINK THE PREMISE OF IT IS TO TRY TO. MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS DIVERSE.

YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING DIVERSE THINGS. AND I THINK WE CAN LOOK AROUND THE ROOM AND SEE TAMARAC IS VERY DIVERSE.

WE ARE WE ARE VERY A MICROCOSM OF AMERICA. AND I THINK THE BOARD IS DEFINITELY DIVERSE.

WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE ALREADY BRING DIVERSE PERSPECTIVE FROM, FROM FROM A COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE, FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE.

WE WE ARE WE WE WE HAVE THAT. SO IN TERMS OF THE BOARD, I THINK, YEAH, THERE YOU ALSO HAVE TO PLAY THAT BALANCE OF YES, PEOPLE PERHAPS ON DIFFERENT POLITICAL SIDES CAN USE IT AS A, AS A WEAPON AND USE IT TO SOMETHING WHERE IT HINDERS THE CITY AND FUNDING IN THAT TYPE OF STUFF. AND THAT'S A TOUGH POSITION. WE ARE WE ARE IN AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

BUT I ALWAYS THINK BACK TO 2008, WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA FIRST GOT ELECTED AND HE TOLD THE STORY OF A LADY NAMED ANN NIXON COOPER.

SHE WAS 106 YEARS OLD AT THAT TIME. SHE WAS BORN IN 1902, AND HE TOLD THE STORY OF WHAT SHE'S SEEN IN AMERICA FROM WOMEN NOT BEING ABLE TO VOTE, THEN GETTING THE RIGHTS FROM NOT HAVING CARS TO SEEING THE INTERNET AND ALL THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH AS A COUNTRY.

AND HE SAID THAT SHE WENT AND SHE TOUCHED THE SCREEN AND SHE VOTED AND SHE SEE HOW FAR AMERICA HAS COME AND AMERICA HAS COME A LONG WAY.

WE'VE COME. WE'VE COME A VERY, VERY, VERY LONG WAY AS A COUNTRY.

BUT HE ENDED AND SAID, WE STILL HAVE FURTHER TO GO.

YOU KNOW, THAT WAS HIS ENDING POINT. I ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT WE STILL HAVE FURTHER TO GO. AND I THINK AS A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ALL HAVE FURTHER TO GO AS A COMMUNITY.

AND WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT WITH ALL THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COUNTRY, WITH ANTI-SEMITISM, WITH ANTI, YOU KNOW, ASIAN HATE AND DIFFERENT GROUPS, PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING ALL THIS STUFF.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE ALL STILL HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF AS A COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO DIVERSITY.

AND YOU SAID CARE CULTURE AND THAT DIFFERENT STUFF.

AND YOU SAID MISSION EXTENDS BEYOND RACE, WHICH IS WHICH IS IMPORTANT.

SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH DECISION BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE FAR TO GO, BUT STILL WE'RE A DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE A COMMUNITY THAT'S MULTICULTURAL AND WE KNOW AND WE LOVE AND WE GET ALONG AND WE EMBRACE EVERYONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

AND I'LL, YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO THE DEBATE OF MY COLLEAGUES.

SO LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES STAND OUT IS YOUR BOARD DOES MEET AND YOUR BOARD HAS A PURPOSE. BUT TRULY, WHERE HAS YOUR WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

[02:00:01]

RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT WASN'T REALLY WHAT IT WASN'T CHANGED.

IT WAS ALWAYS CALLED DEI. I DON'T REMEMBER APPROVING IT.

DI. I JUST REMEMBER IT BEING THE MULTICULTURAL BOARD TO ASSIST THE BOARD WAS ENACTED IN 2021.

THAT WAS ORDINANCE 2020 1-01. OKAY. AS THE 2021, THAT'S WHEN THE BOARD WAS ENACTED.

WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL NAME ORIGINALLY THE CA DEI DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

YEAH, SO WE CAME OUT THAT WAY. BUT THE PURPOSE OF IT WAS TO ASSIST PARK AND REC.

IS THAT PURPOSE STILL THERE? DO DOES YOUR BOARD HELP THE PARK AND REC BOARD WITH IDEAS AND DIRECTIVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YES. OKAY.

IS THERE A DESIRE FOR CONSENSUS TO. WE HAVE A FEW THINGS BEFORE US.

ONE IS BEFORE WE EVEN GO IN AND CHANGE THE NAME, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A DESIRE AND CONSENSUS TO KEEP THE BOARD ACTIVE.

COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR. I'M SAYING A COMBINATION OF OF EVERYTHING.

CHANGE, CHANGE THE NAME. BUT TO SEE A RE AS THE VICE MAYOR HAS HAS SAID THAT WOULD BE YOU AS KEEPING IN TIME. THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, SHARE YOUR TITLE IS FINE WITH ME.

AND THEN AND THEN PUT A PAUSE ON, ON ALL THE ACTIVITIES BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU.

I THINK THAT THE BOARD IS NOT NEEDED TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING.

RIGHT. WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST CREATING PROBLEMS FOR OURSELVES.

AND IT'S AND IT'S NOT THAT WE MIGHT NOT COME BACK TO REENACTING THE BOARD, RIGHT.

IT'S BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS CITY WILL OUTLIVE EVERY POLITICIAN IN REPRESENTATIONAL POLITICS.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE WORLD GOOD. SO CHANGE THE NAME AND IMMEDIATELY CEASE ALL ACTIVITIES. IS IS MY IS MY OPINION AND PROBABLY COME BACK TO IT.

26, 27, 28. MAYBE JANUARY 29TH. WELL, HEY, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE RECORD.

ASK A FUTURE COMMISSION. I WON'T BE HERE. JUST ASK IF YOU COULD.

FUTURE COMMISSION? DO YOU WANT TO REACTIVATE THIS BOARD THAT WAS ONCE IN PLACE? SO. BUT I'M NOT FOR CONTINUING THE BOARD. SO THEN WHY DON'T WE.

WHY DO WE CHANGE THE NAME? WHY DON'T WE JUST SUNSET IT? BECAUSE IT'S. YOU DON'T WANT IT ON THE BOOKS AS IS. YEAH.

OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO SUNSET SOMETHING AS D.I.

BOARD, YOU KNOW. UNDERSTOOD. SO JUST JUST CHANGE THE NAME TO SOMETHING POSITIVE BECAUSE WE STILL CARE AND THEN SUNSET IT TO A DATE CERTAIN, YOU KNOW. OKAY, I'LL ASK FOR CONSENSUS ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THIS OUT THERE INSTEAD OF A FEELING OF FLAT.

I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S A FEELING OF ACCOMPLISHMENT.

OKAY. BECAUSE EVEN AS COMMISSIONER WRIGHT WAS SAYING, AND AS HAS BEEN SAID BY THE COMMISSION.

EVERYTHING IS FLUID IN LIFE, RIGHT? GOING BACK TO WHERE WE WERE WHEN WE NEEDED TO.

WHEN WE CREATED IT, THERE WAS A NEED. THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? AND AS LIFE AND TIME PROGRESSES, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT A NEED AND A DESIRE FOR IT, BUT WE'RE ACHIEVING AND YES, WE CAN, BUT WE'RE ALL KNOWING TO ACHIEVE IT TOGETHER BETTER THAN NEEDING TO HAVE A BOARD DO THINGS TO IMPLEMENT, THINGS TO MAKE US HAVE TO ACHIEVE IT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. SO AS HARD AS THIS CONVERSATION IS, DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT ON YOU AND AND THE BOARD AND US HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE IT MORE IN A, AN ACHIEVEMENT SITUATION.

RIGHT. MAY I GOMEZ, IF I MAY, PLEASE. SO I'M GOING TO.

YEAH, I'LL REPEAT WHAT IT IS, BUT GO AHEAD. NO, WE NEEDED AN ORDINANCE.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE OF THE NAME, THE DUTIES OF THE BOARD SPEAKS TO DIE.

SO IF WE'RE CHANGING THE NAME, WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE DUTIES AND TAKE OUT DI FROM THE DUTIES AS WELL.

SO THEN IF YOU WOULD, CAN WE THEN. BUT RIGHT.

BUT THEN THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. THEN WHY BOTHER JUST CHANGING THE NAME.

THEN WHY DON'T WE JUST SUNSET IT JUST. OR YOU COULD SEND THEM BACK LIKE PATTERSON SAID.

[02:05:05]

BUT THEY'VE YOU'VE WORKED SO HARD WITH COMING UP WITH A NAME.

RIGHT. FOR OVER THE PAST YEAR. SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE THAT PERSON TO JUST BE LIKE, OH, WE DON'T ACCEPT YOUR NAME. RIGHT? IT'S IT'S A MATTER OF WE, WE SEE YOU, WE HEAR YOU, WE FEEL YOU, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU WORKED HARD. SO THE NAME IS GREAT.

WE'RE ACCEPTING THE NAME WITH THE INVERSION OF THE P AND R SO I'M JUST SAYING ACCEPT THOSE CHANGES.

AND THEN SUNSET THE NAME IT SUNSET THE BOARD.

BECAUSE THE THE CONTENT OF THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE IS PROBLEMATIC IN ITSELF ANYWAY.

SO YOU'RE JUST ACCEPTING THE NAME, ACCEPTING THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND JUST PUTTING A HOLD ON IT.

IT'S NO BIG DEAL. SO THAT IS WHERE I'M GOING FOR CONSENSUS, OBVIOUSLY.

VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER. DANIEL. COMMISSIONER.

PATTERSON. MIKE. MIKE. MIKE. MIKE. MIKE, BASED ON YOUR REACTION AND RESPONSE TO THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME RECEPTION TO IT.

SO IF I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH DOING IT AND THEN DOING IT WITH A TIME CERTAIN A DATE CERTAIN TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO.

WELL, I THINK THERE IS NO MORE CAN DO BECAUSE OF THE FEELING THAT GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE MAKING THE BOARD GO THROUGH ALL THIS EXTRA WORK TO THEN SUNSET, IT WOULD KIND OF, I THINK, BE PAINFUL TO THE BOARD JUST TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE ON IT.

SO WITH IS THERE I MEAN I PERSONALLY I WHAT I WAS PROPOSING WAS TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THE CREATION OF SOMETHING NEW. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO SUNSET, I MEAN, I THINK WE MAYBE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS AND WE SHOULD SEPARATE THEM. FOR ME, IT'S TOUGH TO GET VOLUNTEERS. SO IF THE BOARD HAS BEEN MEETING AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ENGAGED, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP WHOEVER'S REPRESENTING MY DISTRICT.

IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M ALSO VERY CONSCIOUS OF.

I'M OKAY WITH SUNSETTING THE BOARD. I THINK THAT THAT, THOUGH, IS SEPARATE FROM WHAT I'M ALSO PROPOSING, WHICH IS THE CREATION OF A NEW BOARD. AND SO COULD WE USE THIS NEW NAME TO CREATE A NEW BOARD, IF, IN FACT, YOU GUYS CAN IDENTIFY A NEW MISSION AND A NEW PURPOSE ON THAT? I'M GOING TO ASK THIS BECAUSE ACTUALLY, WE DON'T USUALLY LET THE BOARDS GO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO BE AND DO.

OKAY. SO WE WOULD CREATE IT HERE. OKAY. SO THEN WITH THAT ON THAT CAN WE SUNSET IT.

AND THEN IF IT'S A STRONG DESIRE THEN DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING WE CAN DISCUSS BOARDS.

IF IT'S IF IT'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS THEN IT'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS.

SO I'M OKAY WITH YOU KNOW, IF I'M OKAY WITH SUNSETTING THE BOARD.

OKAY. CITY CLERK, WE JUST NEED LEGISLATION TO FOLLOW THROUGH.

ON WHAT? SO I, WE DO NEED AN ORDINANCE. YEAH, BECAUSE IT WAS CREATED BY ORDINANCE.

CREATED BY ORDINANCE. IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY SUNSETTING DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT'S REPEALED.

SO SUNSETTING IT WILL STILL BE ON THE BOOKS. DO YOU WANT IT REPEALED THEN? NO. WE CAN'T REPEAL THE PAST. THE PAST IS OUR PAST.

IT ON. YOU CAN GIVE A DATE CERTAIN SUNSET WAY.

YEAH. IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I, YOU KNOW, THE 2020 NINE, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT BACK AND MAYBE AND MAYBE, LIKE.

YEAH, MAYBE LIKE YOU CAN DO IT. DO IT EARLIER. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T WANT TO SAY LIKE CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE ON RECORD AND RECORD LASTS FOREVER.

BUT REALLY AND TRULY, THE MIDTERMS ARE COMING UP THIS NOVEMBER.

PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT'S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS IS THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT ANYWAY.

JUST JUST GET IT OUT THERE. IT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

SO JUST MAYBE SUNSET IT UNTIL JANUARY NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND SEE HOW WHAT THE WORLD DOES.

BUT AGAIN, IT COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST LEAVE IT FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THIS WHATEVER COMMISSION AT THAT TIME WISHES TO DISCUSS? BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO REVITALIZE THE TERMS. THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THE TERMINOLOGY OF SUNSETTING IT WITH THE TIME SERVED AND BRINGING IT BACK.

IS THAT THE TERMS IN THERE ARE STILL WHAT BRINGS CAUSE ISSUES.

ACCORDING TO WHAT? WHEN THE CITY CLERK MENTIONED THE NAME IS ONE THING AND THE MISSION AND THE ITEMS ARE ARE WRITTEN IN THERE, RIGHT. BUT I THINK THE SUNSET MEANS THAT WAS BASICALLY TERMINATION.

[02:10:01]

THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. YEAH.

AND MY. SO. NO SUNSET. NO SUNSET MEANS THAT YOU YOU PAUSE AND YOU COME BACK AT A TIME CERTAIN.

IT'S IT'S IN RECORD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AT A CERTAIN TIME.

ALRIGHTY. SO LET'S GO THROUGH THIS. DO WE WANT TO.

I'LL GO COMMIT SUNSET OR TERMINATE. I DON'T WANT TO TERMINATE IT BECAUSE THE THE YOU DON'T YOU DON'T WANT TO OKAY.

SO I GOT I GOT ONE FOR SUNSET. I'M TRYING TO DO CONSENSUS HERE BECAUSE WE'RE WAY PAST WHERE WE WERE GOING TO BE.

SUNSET. HE HAS A NO. SO HE DOESN'T WANT ANY OF IT.

COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. SUNSET OR TERMINATE? I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE.

I THINK I GOT I GOT HIS DEFINITION OF SUNSET, BASICALLY.

BASICALLY, IT'S A PAUSING UNTIL JANUARY OF WHAT POINT IN TIME? SUNSET, EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL GOING TO BE ON THE BOOKS WITH THE WORDS 27, IS A PAUSE IN TERMS OF THE ACTIVITIES AND FUNCTION UNTIL JANUARY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER WHEN YOU WHEN YOU READ, WHEN YOU READ THE WHEN YOU READ ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING FROM WASHINGTON AND THE STATE AND EVEN AND EVEN IN THE, EVEN IN THE ARTICLES.

RIGHT, YOU USING CITY RESOURCES AND CITY BUILDINGS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF.

IT'S ALSO A PROBLEM. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST TERMINATE IT AND START AGAIN IN A STRATEGIC PLANNING DISCUSSION OF WHAT CAN BE DONE.

I'M MORE SUPPORTIVE. MAYOR YES, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF TERMINATING, I SUPPORT TERMINATING.

LET'S TERMINATE THE BOARD. AS IT STANDS AS STRATEGIC PLANNING, WE CAN DISCUSS IF WE WANT TO CREATE A CARE BOARD.

DOESN'T LOOK GOOD ENOUGH FOR OUR. NO. OKAY, FINE.

CHANGE IT TO CARE. I DON'T CARE ANYMORE. I WILL TELL YOU.

YEAH, I THINK I THINK ALLOWED THE STATE LAW HASN'T PASSED YET, SO WE CAN SUNSET IT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SEE WHAT THE WORLD DOES.

WE ALREADY HAVE THREE VOTES FOR SUNSET. OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TERMINATE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WANTS. I THINK WE GOT THREE FOR CONSENSUS.

AND THEN THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE INTERESTED IN SERVING EXACTLY OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN SERVE.

THEY RENEWED THEIR SERVING EVERY YEAR ANYWAY AND PUT PUT THE BOARD PUT THE BOARD TO WORK, PUT THE BOARD TO WORK.

BUT THEY CAN'T PUT THE BOARD TO WORK. THEY'RE BEING TOLD NOT TO DO ANYTHING. WE'RE TELLING THEM NOT TO DO THINGS IN OTHER THINGS.

PARKS AND REC. MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.

BUT WAIT A SECOND. COMPLETELY CONFUSED HERE. I'M CONFUSED.

OKAY, IF I HAVE SAID THAT WE ARE TERMINATING AND TELLING THEM THAT THE BOARD CANNOT DO ANY WORK, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE MISSION HE SAID SUNSET.

BUT IT'S IT'S SUNSETTED BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY OF 29.

IF IT'S SUNSETTED AND THEY CAN'T DO WORK, WE CAN'T TELL THEM TO GO TO WORK HELPING THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THE RULES OF THE BOARD STILL HAVE THE DI LANGUAGE WITHIN THE BOARD RULES.

SO THAT'S THE WHOLE THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.

SO I'M GOING MORE TOWARDS, WITH AN APPARENT AGREEMENT FROM THE BOARD CHAIR TO TERMINATE THE BOARD. AND IN THE FUTURE THIS COMMISSION CAN COME BACK OR FUTURE COMMISSIONS CAN COME BACK AND CREATE A CARE BOARD.

IT'LL BE CLEANER. IT'LL HAVE LESS ISSUES WITH POTENTIAL LITIGATION THAT'S COMING.

AND I THINK IT TAKES CARE OF WHAT EVERYBODY ON THE DAIS IS TRYING TO DO.

AND AGAIN, IT HAS SUPPORT FROM THE BOARD CHAIR.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IN 2029, WE'LL HAVE A WOMAN PRESIDENT AND IT WILL NOT BE ME.

WHO WILL THAT BE KEISHA FOR? PRESIDENT NOT SEEN THAT MOVIE BEFORE.

SO SO SO PROFIT. MAURY, ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF THE AMENDED I MEET WITH THE OLD DIE SORT OF NEW CARE AT FOUR. TELL ME WHAT TO TELL THEM. SO. BUT OKAY.

YOU DON'T HAVE CARE YET. CARRIE GOT THERE. SO AM I SEEMINGLY HAVING SUPPORT FOR THREE TO TERMINATE? COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, ARE YOU CHANGING YOUR MIND? I'M FINE.

YOU'RE FINE WITH TERMINATING COMMISSIONER, RIGHT? IS NOT THERE. I'M GONNA TERMINATE AND WE'VE GOT TWO NON TERMINATES.

SO THEREFORE. WHAT'S THAT. OKAY GUYS COME ON.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE A CONSENSUS 1217. I'M JUST SAYING.

SO YOU DON'T WANT THE BOARD. PAUSE THE SOUND HARSH.

IT SOUNDS HARSH. IT DOES. BUT THOSE WHO REALLY WANT THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY IN OUR CITY, IT SOUNDS HARSH AND AND AND AND YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT GET YOU MIGHT GET UP TOMORROW MORNING AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CHANGES THIS WHOLE DANCE LIKE THEY CHANGED THEIR THEIR DANCE WITH TSA PRECHECK IN LIKE 30S

[02:15:05]

SIMPLE. WHAT ARE WE DISCUSSING? JUST PAUSE THE BOARD.

YEAH. BECAUSE LOOK, I, I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN HOLLERING JUST PAUSE.

PAUSE SUNSET AND LEAVE IT ALONE, OKAY? YOU'RE SUNSETTED UNTIL THERE WILL BE LEGISLATION WRITTEN UP TO SUNSET.

THE DCI BOARD THROUGH JANUARY 1ST, 2027. NINE WAS FINE, NINE WAS FINE. NINE THIS YEAR. DOES IT MATTER? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE HERE.

WHAT DO YOU CARE? 29 RIGHT FOR DISCUSSION THEN, UNTIL BETWEEN THIS TIME AND THEN, UNLESS THERE'S ANY CHANGE IN OUR LEGISLATION, THE BOARD IS NOT TO BE DOING ANY ACTIVITIES.

BUT THE NAME CHANGE. THE BOARD OF SUNSET. SO THERE IS NO CHANGE TO CARE.

OKAY. WELL, WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE TO SUNSET THE BOARD TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO SO WE CAN CHANGE THE NAME TO CARE AND THEN SUNSET IT TO. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.

I'M SAYING THAT THOUGH YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS HERE.

THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL HAVE TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE TO BRING OR RESOLUTION RATHER TO SUNSET.

THE BOARD IN AND OF ITSELF, SIMILAR TO THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.

WE SUNSET THE BOARD THROUGH RESOLUTION. THE COMMISSION VOTE ON THAT FOR A TIME CERTAIN.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE TIME, SIR. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TIME CERTAIN.

YEAH. DON'T PUT THE TIME. AND ANY COMMISSION AT THE LATER DATE CAN BRING IT UP IF THEY SO DESIRE.

THIS WAY THERE'S NO PRESSURE TO DO SOMETHING AT A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. WE GOT THE INSTRUCTION. OKAY.

OKAY. SO SUNSET, YOU WANT THERE WILL BE A RESOLUTION COMING FORTH AT A FUTURE MEETING THAT WILL BE SUNSETTING THE BOARD THAT YOU SERVE ON. YEAH, BUT THE NAME IS THAT.

YEAH, BUT WE'RE ADOPTED TO ADOPT CA R AND THEN SUNSET THAT BOARD.

OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. ADOPTING C.A.R.E.

AND WE'RE JUST REVERSING. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE OBVIOUSLY FLEW RIGHT PAST OUR TIME.

CERTAIN. AND SO WE WILL NOW BE ON A BREAK TILL 1:00.

THAT'S NOT 45 MINUTES, BUT IT'S 40 MINUTES. SO WE'RE IN RECESS TILL 1:00.

BON APPETIT EVERYONE. THANK YOU.

FOR COMING BACK. IT IS 1:00 ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD AND WE ARE RESUMING OUR WORKSHOP.

WE ARE HAPPY TO GO TO ONE D IF I'VE GOT MY MEMORY CORRECT WHILE I'M SETTING UP MYSELF.

1E1E SORRY ABOUT THAT. ONE E WHERE WE WILL BE DISCUSSING ART.

[1.e. Public Art Projects Discussion and Consensus Presented by Community Development Assistant Director, Maher Mansour, & George Gadson, Gadson & Ravitz ]

CITY COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS IN THIS PRESENTATION.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE INSPIRATION WAY REPLACEMENTS.

THE SECOND IS A LIGHTING PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

THE THIRD ONE IS ARTISTIC BENCHES FOR SPORT COMPLEX.

AND THEN AN UPCOMING PROJECT THAT WE WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

AND GEORGE WILL TAKE IT FROM HERE. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU THE PROJECTS THAT MEJIA JUST MENTIONED, AND WE'LL JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH THEM. THE FIRST ONE BEING INSPIRATION WAY THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, ACTUALLY IS THE MONTH THAT THE EXISTING ART PIECES ARE SCHEDULED TO COME DOWN.

AND WE SENT OUT A CALL TO ARTISTS. WE HAD 42 SUBMISSIONS FOR THIS NEXT ROUND.

AND EACH ARTIST THAT WAS SELECTED RECEIVED WILL RECEIVE, IF YOU WILL.

$3,500 STIPEND. SO I'LL BEGIN TO GO RIGHT THROUGH THEM FOR YOU.

AND JUST SORRY, JUST FOR REFERENCE, THE SLIDES ARE NUMBERED.

SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE NOTES OF WHICH ONE TO COME BACK TO LATER.

OKAY. THE JUST SO YOU KNOW AS WELL, THERE'S A PURCHASE BUDGET OF 60,000, SIX ZERO, 60,000.

IF IN THE EVENT DURING THE COURSE OF THIS PRESENTATION, THE EXHIBITION THE COMMISSION WISHES TO PURCHASE ONE OF THE PIECES.

[02:20:07]

THE THE THE THE THE ELEPHANT.

I'M SORRY. YOU REALLY MENTIONED WHAT THEY ARE VERSUS YOU.

WOULD YOU? BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF READING RATE FOR EACH OF US.

AND IF WE'RE LOOKING DOWN, TRYING TO GET THE PAPERCLIP OUT SO WE CAN.

OKAY, I'LL BE MORE. I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.

IF YOU WOULD. I CAN REVERSE BACK IF YOU WISH.

OKAY. THIS IS. YES. OKAY. GUS AND LENA THEY'VE EXHIBITED WITH US BEFORE. SOME OF THEIR WORK.

ONE OF THEIR PIECES OF WORK IS ACTUALLY AT RIVERS AT ONE OF OUR PARKS.

WE PURCHASED ONE OF THEM. SO THE PRICES YOU SEE HERE WHAT THE ARTISTS ARE HOPING TO IF THEY SELL THE PIECES WE'VE BEEN KNOWN TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM AND TO REDUCE THE PRICE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME AND PICK IT UP, AND IT JUST WAS IT WORKED OUT PERFECTLY.

WE'RE REALLY MORE WE'RE REALLY MORE CONCERNED RIGHT NOW FOR THE PIECES WE WANT TO SELECT, NOT NECESSARILY WORRIED ABOUT THE PRICES OF THESE ART.

THAT IS CORRECT. IF WE DECIDE LATER THAT WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHICH ITEMS TO PURCHASE, WE COULD DO THAT AT ANOTHER TIME. THAT IS CORRECT. WANTING TO JUST KIND OF STREAMLINE US. AND THEN IN ONE OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SET FOR ANY OF THE ARTWORK THAT'S CURRENTLY HERE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS ANOTHER PIECE OF LEARNING TO FLY.

THIS ARTIST IS THE FIRST TIME ACTUALLY SUBMITTING WORK WITH US.

STEPHEN FAIRFIELD. FLUTTERING RAINBOW. FORGIVE ME.

I THINK YOU WENT PAST NUMBER. GUS AND LENA. SUNRISE.

CAN YOU JUST GO BACK TO THAT FOR A SECOND, PLEASE? YEAH, THE NEXT ONE AFTER TWIN SOULS.

THE YELLOW, THE SUN. 95IN. INCHES. SO THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT, WHAT, ALMOST NINE, 8 TO 9FT. SO IT'S ABOUT EIGHT FEET.

OKAY. YES. OKAY. AND THE AND YEAH, THESE SIZES WOULD BE THE PADS WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE SIZES THAT ARE HERE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. LEARNING TO FLY. STEPHEN FAIRFIELD FLUTTERING RAINBOW TEN FEET BY EIGHT FEET BY SIX FEET. THE CHASE. 16 BY EIGHT BY THREE. THE WAVE 7.5FT BY SIX FEET BY FOUR.

SIX. YOU SEE? 12 AT 606 AND A HALF. ALMOST SEVEN FEET.

SIX FEET. ROBERT BARNUM.

TREE GODDESS 93. SO THAT'S CLOSE TO ABOUT EIGHT FEET.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ARTISTS, ALL OF THESE ARTISTS SUBMIT THEIR PORTFOLIO TO A CAFE, WHICH IS HOW WE ACTUALLY SELECT THEM. AND THE WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN TERMS OF THE THE INCHES, YOU KNOW, SOME CHOOSES THERE'S A DEFAULT. YOU CAN EITHER INCHES OR FEET.

SO I JUST WANTED TIME TO CONVERT. SURE, SURE.

I'M NOT THE MATH ONE ON THE DAIS FOR A QUICK CONVERSIONS INTO FEET VERSUS INCHES.

THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE BY ROBERT. SHE FLIES ABOVE THE TREE.

KURT SEES HE'S HAD ACTUALLY SOME WORK WITH US BEFORE.

EIGHT FEET BY THREE FEET BY TWO FEET. IS IT THE BUTTERFLY THAT IS IT OR IS THAT YELLOW? IT'S ACTUALLY THE YELLOW WITH IT AS WELL. YES, MA'AM.

HANNAH, WHO HAS EXHIBITED WITH US BEFORE, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OF HIS PIECES IN OUR COLLECTION ON SOUTHGATE,

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WE'VE SEEN THIS ONE BEFORE. YOU'VE SEEN IT AT A PREVIOUS SUBMISSION? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AS WELL AS THIS PARTICULAR ARTIST AS WELL NICOLE BECK.

EFFLORESCENCE. EFFLORESCENCE. AND WE PROVIDED YOU ALSO.

SO THE ONES THAT YOU SAW EARLIER WERE THOSE THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE FOR SELECTION ON THE PADS FOR PLACEMENT ON THE PADS.

BUT THESE ARE THE ALTERNATE ARTISTS WHOSE WORK ALSO WAS IS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION.

COMBUSTION RATE CASES EXHIBITED WITH US BEFORE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

KENNETH THOMPSON, THIS IS HIS FIRST TIME. 11FT BY FOUR FEET BY FOUR FEET.

AGNES BLACK. THIS IS HER FIRST TIME PRESENTING TO US 7.5FT BY THREE FEET BY THREE FEET.

RICHARD HERSHEY'S HAS SUBMITTED BEFORE.

ROBIN MORGAN'S THE FIRST TIME SURVEILLANCE SOCIETY.

ALTHOUGH MUZZARELLI HE'S. HE'S CURRENTLY IN THE EXHIBITION.

CURRENTLY. CHRIS POWELL SAID. MEDUSA.

ATHENA. ALRIGHTY. OKAY, SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WE'VE GONE TO ONLY 13 PADS. WE'VE GIVEN UP THE 15.

WE USED TO HAVE 15. I'M SORRY. WE USED TO HAVE 15 PADS.

WE'RE ONLY DOING 13. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 12 PADS, ONE OF WHICH IS ALREADY BEING OCCUPIED BY ELLIE.

OKAY, SO BUT WE STARTED OUT THIS PROJECT WITH 15.

BUT OKAY, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR 12, 11, 11, 11, 11.

ALRIGHT. 123456789 1011 1213. SO YOU'RE GIVING US 13. I WILL, I WILL SAY THIS IF I MAY SINCE THE INITIAL SUBMISSIONS, THERE ARE SOME ARTISTS WHOSE WORK MAY THAT WERE INITIALLY AVAILABLE. IF INDEED, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION APPROVES WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED AND WE GO TO THE ARTISTS, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ALREADY TAKING THE ART OF SOMEONE ELSE, MAYBE SOMEPLACE ELSE.

SO AS WE ALWAYS TRY AND DO, WE TRY AND FILL THE PASSAGE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

ALTERNATIVES. WE NEED TO GIVE YOU OUR 11 NOW WITH OUR THREE LEFTOVER THREE.

WE'RE 11 NOW. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE ANY OF THE 11 THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE, WHAT ARE YOUR LIKINGS WITH THE ALTERNATES? OKAY. PRESUMING THAT THERE'S LIKING OF ALL THE 11 THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BECAUSE ALSO YOU GAVE US 13 TO LOOK AT.

SO WE GOT TO PEEL OUT ANYWAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW US IN ART, RIGHT? SO WHO WANTS TO START THE RODEO? I SEEM TO HAVE NO TAKERS.

WELL. I'LL START. I'M FINE WITH ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

SO ACTUALLY SHOULD BE GOING BY NUMBERS. I LIKE THE WAVE.

I'M THE CHASE. IT SAYS THAT IT'S 16FT. LOOKS A LITTLE SMALL, SO I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN ON THAT ONE.

SO THE CHASE IS. YEAH. I MEAN, LIKE, IT'S COLORFUL AND WHIMSY, BUT I'M WORRIED THAT IT'S FOR DETAIL.

IT LOOKS SMALL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING PAST IT.

IT'S IT'S EIGHT FEET WIDE, SO I'M ASSUMING THE BICYCLE IS EIGHT FEET WIDE.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOOKS LARGER THAN IT APPEARS. YEAH.

WITH WITH THE PEDESTAL ON WHICH IT STANDS. IT.

YEAH. OR OR THREE FEET. IS IT THREE FEET WIDE? YEAH, PROBABLY THREE FEET WIDE. LIKE THE LENGTH OF THE BICYCLE WOULD BE, LIKE THREE FEET.

WE'LL GO BACK TO IT HERE. YES. 16FT HIGH. EIGHT FEET WIDE BY THREE FEET DEEP. YEAH, OKAY. THIS IS CURIOUS OF HOW MUCH OF HIM GOT ON THE BIKE IS, BUT

[02:30:08]

I'M GOOD WITH TENDERNESS. THE THE GODDESS SERIES.

THE OR THE METAL BY ROBERT MARNHAM. THE SHE THE TREE GODDESS GODDESS.

AND SHE WHO FLIES ABOVE THE TREES. IT'S ALUMINUM.

STAINLESS STEEL. BRIGHT. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF IT WITH REFLECTIVE ON THE MAIN STREET.

IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY CONCERN? NO, MA'AM. NOT AT ALL.

I WOULD PREFER PICKING ONE OR THE OTHER VERSUS HAVING TWO.

UNLESS WE'RE PUTTING THEM, I GUESS, TOGETHER.

WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY CAN BE. THEY WILL BE SEPARATE. I MEAN, NOT TOGETHER, BUT.

OH, NO. THEY MIGHT WORK BETTER TOGETHER. I'M SORRY.

THEY MIGHT WORK. IF THEY'RE BOTH SELECTED, THEY MIGHT WORK BETTER TOGETHER.

MIGHT WORK BEST. AS YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION, THE OPEN SPACE.

I THINK THERE'S THREE PADS THERE. SO IF INDEED THESE TWO ARE PART OF THE CONSENSUS, THEN THOSE TWO CAN BE HERE AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE, THE ONE IN THE CENTER. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, DEFINITELY HAVE SOMETHING COLORFUL IN THE MIDDLE.

IN THE MIDDLE. RIGHT. IF PLASMA WOULD BE TO STAINLESS STEEL, RIGHT.

YOU DON'T WANT IT ALL STAINLESS STEEL. I'M FINE WITH A LITTLE BUTTERFLY.

I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF BUTTERFLIES. I WILL TELL YOU PERSONALLY, I PERSONALLY, I AM NOT A FAN OF THE ELEMENT. DIDN'T LIKE IT THE FIRST TIME IT WAS INTRODUCED.

THE ELEMENT WHICH IS ON PAGE 14.

EFFLORESCENCE SEEMS FINE. DOES SEEM. YES, PERFECT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM ON ALTERNATIVES OR THE ALTERNATES.

COMBUSTION. I DON'T WANT TO GET PEOPLE MAD AT US IF WE DO ORANGE AND BLUE GATOR COLORS.

AND WE'VE LEFT OUT THE SEMINOLE COLORS, AND WE'VE LEFT OUT THE U OF M COLORS.

IT'S JUST A JOKE. JUST A JOKE. FOR THE BLUE, ORANGE, STAINLESS STEEL ONE.

OH, YES. I'M BEING FOOTBALL SENSITIVE OR SENSITIVE.

OH, WHAT CAN I TELL YOU? NEXT DIMENSIONS IS FINE.

I'M REALLY NOT SURE HOW WELL ACRYLIC WILL. WHICH PAGE IS THAT? I'M SORRY. I'M UP TO 19. I THINK ACRYLIC IS HARD WORK, AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING, BUT, YEAH, I'M NOT REALLY NEXT DIMENSIONS.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE. SO IF I HAD TO GO WITH ANYTHING ON THE ALTERNATE ALTERNATES, THIS PARTICULAR ONE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THE OTHERS, DOESN'T HAVE THE VOLUME AND THE SIZE, THAT MIGHT BE AS IMPACTFUL.

YES. SO THAT'S OKAY. THEN I'M, I WOULD GO ON THE ALTERNATIVES.

I LIKE MOVING ON. I GUESS FOR OUT OF ALL OF IT, I THINK SURVEILLANCE SOCIETY WOULD POSSIBLY CAUSE SOME CONCERN AND CONSTERNATION TO SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO ALREADY THINK THAT WE HAVE TOO MUCH CAMERAS AROUND THEM.

SO I DON'T WANT I CAN'T SUPPORT SURVEILLANCE SOCIETY.

PLEASE. JUGGLER OF ILLUSIONS. CUTE, BUT HE'S WAY TOO TINY FOR ME.

I JOKE AROUND SOMETIMES WHEN I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING THAT I LOOK LIKE MEDUSA, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I HAVE THAT MUCH CURL AS SHE HAS.

I'M ATHENA IS NOT TOO BAD, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TALL ENOUGH, BUT THOSE ARE JUST MY QUICK LOOKS AND COMMENTS AND.

THROWING IT OUT THERE FOR THE GROUP TO MAKE A DECISION.

COMMISSIONER, RIGHT. I LIKE COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

ARE YOU TURNED OVER? I LIKE NUMBER ONE. TWO. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY, I GOT IT. GUS AND LINA. OKAY. GUS AND LINA ARE BOTH OF THEM.

I LIKE WHAT? NUMBER THREE. SORRY. I LIKE THE GODDESS.

WHICH PAGE, PLEASE? GODDESS. THE TREE GODDESS.

OH, SORRY. NUMBER IT'S CALLED ROBERT. WHAT ARE WE DOING? SEE, THE THING IS, THE PAGE NUMBERS ARE NOT THE SAME AS THE RIGHT.

SO WE'RE DOING SLIDE NUMBERS INSTEAD OF THE NUMBER ON EACH SLIDE.

OKAY. SLIDE. SLIDE NUMBERS. SO YOU LIKE NUMBER TEN.

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LET'S GO BACK. I LIKE NUMBER ONE. SORRY I LIKE NUMBER THREE.

NUMBER FOUR. NUMBER TEN. NUMBER 12.

NUMBER 13. I LIKE NUMBER 17. NUMBER 21. THE ALTERNATES. I LIKE THE NUMBER 25. HOW MUCH IS THAT? EIGHT. EIGHT? YES.

NUMBER 20. THAT'S NINE. NUMBER 15. TEN. AND ONE MORE.

AND 11. NUMBER 15. AND AFTER NUMBER 15. 11. 11.

YEAH. OKAY. SHE WHO FLIES SOARING LIKE AN EAGLE.

ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. BUELLER? BUELLER? ANYONE NEXT? AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS. SO WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? I'M SORRY. WHY DON'T WE COME BACK TO THE NEXT ONE? OKAY. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. VERY GOOD.

OKAY, SO THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER LIGHT ENTRANCE.

IN NOVEMBER 2024 WE PRESENTED A CALL TO ARTISTS, AND WE HAD 32 ARTISTS RESPONDED.

THE IDEA OF HAVING SOMETHING THAT IS EYE CATCHING TO THE PUBLIC, AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DRIVING BY THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ENTICING TO COME INTO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

WE HAD THREE ARTISTS THAT WERE SHORTLISTED FROM THE 32, AND EACH OF THEM AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION, RECEIVED A STIPEND OF $1,500. SO THESE ARE THE PRESENTATIONS OF ARTISTS IN THEIR PREVIOUS WORK.

EMILY. NICOLE. FOR HER PRESENTATION WITH US, SHE GAVE US SOME AREAS OF INSPIRATION GOING ONLINE WITH GOOGLE EARTH AND LOOKING AT, OF COURSE, NATURE, THE EVERGLADES AND AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO WHAT SHE'S HER INSPIRATION, YOU KNOW, CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE RESEARCH SHE HAD DONE IN THESE THREE AREAS.

OKAY. WHAT SHE'S PROPOSING HERE IS A LED LIGHTING STRUCTURE, IF YOU WILL.

THAT WOULD BE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING, AND SHE HAS RECEIVED PLANS FOR THE BUILDING AND, AND HAS BEEN ADVISED OF WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO.

BUT THIS IS THIS IS ANOTHER A CLOSE UP OF WHAT SHE'S PROPOSING.

WHAT SHE HAS DONE HERE IS AND THE LIGHTS USING LED LIGHTS, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR CHANGING IN THE COLORS, ETC., BUT MORE FOCUSING IN ON THE TAMARAC COLORS AND HER MOVEMENT, IF YOU WILL, KIND OF CONNECTS CLOSELY WITH THE THE WAVE OR THE MOVEMENT WAS THE TAMARAC IN THE TAMARAC BRAND BRANDING LOGO.

THERE'S ANOTHER IMAGE. THESE ARE THE OPTIONS.

THE LED PATTERNS, AS I MENTIONED, ALSO SENSOR UP SO THAT WHEN INDIVIDUALS WALK INTO THE BUILDING THERE WILL BE SOUND MOTION SENSOR. SO THAT'S THAT WAS EMILY. THEN WE HAD BRIAN BRUSH.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE WORKS THAT HE'S DONE IN OTHER AREAS OF PUBLIC ART.

THIS IS HIS PROPOSAL WITH THE LIGHTING BEING IN THE CEILING, IF YOU WILL, OF AS YOU ENTER INTO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

THE PIECE CONVEYS A A CEQA QUALITY OF FORM OF ILLUMINATION WITH DENSE PACKING OF FIBER AND RADIATING MOVEMENTS, ALLUDING TO THE ACTIVE AND DYNAMIC LIFE THAT THE CITY THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER SUPPORTS.

TAKES UP, THOUGH HE SAYS IT HERE, THE PIECE CAN TAKE A VARIETY OF FLOWING, CIRCUITOUS FORMS TO CONVEY THE CONCEPT OF FLOW AND CHANGE,

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THE NEXT ARTIST, STANTON JONES. SOME OF HIS PREVIOUS WORK.

HIS CONCEPT BASICALLY NEON LIGHTING, THE NEON RAINBOWS.

HERE'S HOW HE'S DEPICTING IT AS YOU ENTER INTO THE BUILDING.

NOT VERY. THE COMMITTEE HAS BASICALLY FELT WITH THIS PARTICULAR ARTIST, AS WELL AS THE OTHER BRYANT PRESENTATION FOR BRYANT WAS WELL DONE AND POTENTIALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED TO YOU. BUT THE DOWNSIDE OF HIS WORK IS IT DOESN'T DRAW YOU INTO THE BUILDING BECAUSE IN THE LIGHTING IS IN THE CEILING VERSUS BEING ON THE ON THE FACE OF THE BUILDING, IF YOU WILL. AND SO NICHOLAS, THE ARTIST, EMILY NICHOLAS IS WHO THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING TO IMPLEMENT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND MAY I ADD, IT'S DUE TO VISIBILITY FROM COMMERCIAL.

THIS ONE WOULD BE CLEARLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

OKAY, SO I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS SINCE NOBODY SEEMS TO BE WANTING TO TALK ANYWAY AT THIS POINT.

SO I'LL JUST GO FOR IT. WHILE I THINK THAT IS CREATIVE ON THE WAVE, RIGHT.

AND IT TAKES IN THE CITY. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE HOURS OF THE LIGHT FLASHING, THE SOUNDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF IT FROM THE ROAD PERSPECTIVE, FROM PEOPLE WHEN WE HAVE OUR SENSORY SENSITIVE PEOPLE.

RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE USING. SO FOR PEOPLE WITH AUTISM AND OTHER SITUATIONS, THE LIGHT AND THE SOUND HOW DO WE REGULATE THAT? AND IF IT'S A CONSTANT FLOW OF THE LIGHTS GOING ON, HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT BEING ART AND US TELLING OUR BUSINESSES THEY CAN'T HAVE THE FLASHING LIGHTS GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND THEIR BUSINESSES? I DON'T WANT US TO BE HYPOCRITICAL.

OKAY. IT IS PROGRAMABLE AND THE ADDITIONAL SOUND AND MOTION, ALL OF THAT ARE ADDED TO TO THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT.

IT CAN REMAIN STATIC FOR DETERMINED TIME. IT CAN MOVE IF THERE ARE SPECIAL OCCASIONS, SPECIAL EVENTS, WE WE HAVE THE OPTION OF CONTROLLING HOW IT'S DISPLAYED AT ANY TIME.

BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO LIKE IT, I THINK IT'S CREATIVE.

I ALSO HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH BRIAN SAYING WONDERING IF, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE VISIBILITY FROM THE ROAD, BUT WHEN YOU SEE OUR BUILDING, WHICH IS VERY NOTICEABLE FROM THE ROAD ANYWAY, AND YOU SEE THOSE SPLASH OF COLORS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE DRAWN TO IT. SO I GUESS THERE'S ALSO A QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PURPOSE OF OUR ART RIGHT NOW.

IS IT TO MAKE IT VISUALLY APPEALING AND BEAUTIFUL, OR ARE WE TRYING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO COMING TO ONE OF THE MOST BUSY PUBLIC FACILITIES WE HAVE? ALSO, KEEPING IN MIND THAT THERE'S CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING WITH THIS BUILDING IN THE FUTURE.

SO ARE WE PREMATURE TO BE PUTTING ANYTHING ON THIS BUILDING THAT MIGHT NOT BE THERE IN THE FUTURE? QUESTIONS? DOES ANY CITY MANAGER SEEMS TO WANT TO JUMP IN ON MY QUESTION? NO, NO, NOT NOT RELATED TO YOURS.

BUT I WANT TO ASK GEORGE. GEORGE, HOW DOES THIS PLAY WITH THE MURAL THAT THAT'S BEING PLANNED ON THE ON THE WESTERN PART OF THE BUILDING? HOW DOES IT PLAY WITH THAT? YEAH. THE LOVE I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING ON WHEN WE WERE MOVING IT, BUT. OKAY. NO, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE THE THE WEST SIDE OF THE IT'S FACING THE LIBRARY.

YEAH. IT'S ADJACENT. FACING COMMERCIAL. YEAH.

YES, SIR. WE HAVE A MURAL ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT A NEW ONE IS BEING PLANNED FOR THE FOR THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING COMMERCIAL. YES. IT'S COMING TO THE AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TO THE SIDE TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT.

SO IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF THE MURAL. NO. BUT IT I MEAN, THERE IS A COMES A POINT IN TIME WHEN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH.

I MEAN, WE ALSO JUST REPAINTED IT WHITE AND BLUE AND GRAY TO MAKE THE BUILDING ITSELF LOOK BEAUTIFUL, AND USING THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURAL LINES TO STAND OUT, TO THEN CONTINUE TO.

OVERPOWER IT WITH EVEN MORE. NOW, THIS CAME TO THIS TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER OF 2020 FOR THE MURAL CAME MUCH LATER. SO THESE ARE DIFFERENT TIMELINES BASICALLY.

YEAH, ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO PUT MYSELF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOT SEAT.

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IS IT OR EAST? EAST SIDE. REMEMBER, I'M A NEW YORKER.

ALWAYS WILL BE ON MY DIRECTIONS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.

HAS IT SERVED ITS PURPOSE? HAS IT DONE ITS TIME? MAYBE WE PUT LOVE THERE BECAUSE IT'S A BIGGER SPACE.

IT DOESN'T COMPETE WITH ANYTHING ELSE. IT IS HIGHLY VISIBLE TO ONCOMING TRAFFIC.

AND IT'S A LOT MORE SPACE. BUT THIS WAY I PERSONALLY CAN'T SEE TWO THINGS IN THE FRONT OF CITY HALL.

THE COMMUNITY CENTER. IT'S EITHER LOVE OR ARTWORK.

IF WHATEVER YOUR MOTION SENSORY THING IS GOING TO BE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS LOVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT GO AHEAD. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH MAYA HERE.

BUT BUT LAST TIME WE TALKED YOU KNOW, YOU WERE CONTEMPLATING THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN WE SAID WE WANT THE FRONT FACING AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE LEFT OFF. AND THEN YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND AGAIN? NO, IT IS STILL IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

NO, I FACING COMMERCIAL. YES. I SUGGESTED THE OTHER ONE.

OH, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. SO IT'S STILL FACING COMMERCIAL.

WHAT? THE EAST SIDE. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTH SIDE. THE SOUTH.

RIGHT. FOR WHICH ONE? FOR THE. FOR THE LOVE MURAL.

FOR THE LOVE MURAL. FOR THE MURAL. QUICKLY. JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DISCUSSING IT RIGHT NOW.

YEAH. SO I KNOW WHERE THIS COMES FROM. I KNOW IT COMES FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH BROWARD COUNTY, THE BROWARD COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, AND SEVERAL OF US WERE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AT DIFFERENT PARALLEL VERSES TOGETHER.

AND I THINK THE LOVE THING IS, IS FINE AND GREAT.

I DO THINK THAT THE LOVE SHOULD BE MORE COLORED IN OUR CITY LOGO COLORS VERSUS ONLY THE FOUR COLORS THAT ARE SEEMINGLY REPRESENTED THERE. WHICH I DON'T THINK SHOWS THE INCLUSIVITY OF OUR CITY, WHICH OUR LOGO WAS BASED ON THE FOUR, THE SIX COLORS OF OUR CITY'S LOGO.

THAT'S MY FEELING ON IT. AND AGAIN, EITHER WE PUT LOVE IN THE FRONT AND THEN MAYBE THE AUTOMATION ON THE SIDE, BUT I CAN'T. PERSONALLY, I THINK THE VISUAL PART OF THIS WILL BE BLINDING.

LIKE NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO APPRECIATE THE ART OF EITHER, BECAUSE WE'RE TOO BUSY HAVING ALL THIS RUSH AT US.

MY OPINION, AND THIS MURAL IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED.

THIS ONE IS SO MUCH MORE LOUD THAN THAN YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE CONCEPT THE ARTIST PRESENTED ON THURSDAY.

THURSDAY. WE ASKED HIM. HE SAID HE'S STILL WORKING ON IT.

WE SAID, REALLY? WE WANT SOMETHING TO BRING TO THE CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP.

SO THAT'S WHAT HE BROUGHT FORWARD ON THURSDAY, OBVIOUSLY.

COMMISSIONERS YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE JUDGE, BUT BUT TO ME, THIS IS SO LOUD AND YOU KNOW YEAH.

I DON'T SEE HOW IT MATCHED THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

I DON'T, I LIKE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN HAVE ONE SIDE PASTEL BROWN, EARTHY TONE AND THEN THE OTHER.

I GUESS YOU COULD, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT AN ARTIST. SO IS IT A MATTER OF AT THIS POINT, ONE OR THE OTHER, OR DECIDING PLACEMENT? IT'S UP TO YOU. BECAUSE I JUST RECEIVED A COMPLIMENT TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S THERE.

NOW. IT'S STILL IN PRETTY DECENT SHAPE, AND IT MAY STILL HAVE ANOTHER FEW DAYS TO TO LIVE.

WELL, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE PAINTING TOMORROW, RIGHT? PERSONALLY, IT WAS NICELY DONE.

IT SHOWS THE CITIES. IT SERVED A PURPOSE OF SHOWING THE CITY, AND THAT WAS A REASON WHY WE HAD IT.

BUT IN MY OPINION, IT'S SHADED. RIGHT. YOU DON'T GET TO SEE IT.

IT DOESN'T SCREAM VIBRANCY. IT DOESN'T SCREAM ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND JUST.

AND. JUST MADE A GOOD POINT. I MEAN. I GUESS YOU'RE GETTING YOUR TITLE BACK. MARLON ABDICATING. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE.

I THINK THE OTHER SIDE, THE THE ART, THE BEAUTY OF ART IS THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME.

SO I THINK THAT THE TWO MURALS COULD EXIST AT THE SAME TIME.

WHILE THEY ARE DIFFERENT. THEY COULD EXIST. I, I HAPPEN TO ALSO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT I THINK THAT WHILE I ACTUALLY LOVE THIS LED THING, I THINK IT BECOMES TOO MUCH AT ONE SITE.

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I MEAN, WE HAVE A NEW EAST SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER COMING ON ONLINE AT SOME POINT.

SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD USE SOME OF THESE IDEAS TO, YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW, AT SOME POINT LATER, BUT I THINK, I MEAN, IF WE'VE GOT $50,000 HAVE, HAS THE ART COMMITTEE CONSIDERED LIKE AN ACTIVATION, MAYBE DURING ART BASEL WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING CENTRAL IN OUR CITY THAT IS YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING DURING THAT SEASON.

I KNOW, MR. GADSDEN. I'VE ACTUALLY GONE TO ONE OF YOUR EVENTS IN YOUR, IN YOUR IN YOUR SPOT THERE.

AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. I KNOW IT WAS A PRIVATE EVENT, BUT STILL, LIKE, I THINK THAT AS A CITY, WE'RE BRINGING QUITE WE'RE INVESTING QUITE A BIT INTO ART.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE LOOK AT HOW WE GROW OUR PROGRAM BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SCULPTURES AND SOME OF THESE THINGS.

AND LOOK AT HOW WE MAYBE ACTIVATE DURING ART BASEL SEASON.

MAYBE A SMALL ACTIVATION, A SMALL INTIMATE ACTIVATION THAT WOULD BRING SOME LIGHT TO SOME OF THE BEAUTIFUL ART THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT.

AND I MEAN, ME PERSONALLY, I THINK I LIKE THIS I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ANOTHER COLOR OR ADDING COLORS TO IT, BUT I THINK TWO THINGS COULD BE TRUE THAT WE COULD HAVE WHAT'S THERE ON THE OTHER ON ON THE EAST SIDE AND HAVE THIS ON THE WEST SIDE, AND IT STILL BE EQUALLY NICE. AND I'M MY PROBLEM IS THE FRONT.

NO, I CAN'T DO TWO THINGS IN THE FRONT. SO EITHER WE KEEP THE BROWN THE MURAL AND WE DO THE LOVE.

AND IF WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP THE MURAL, THEN WE PUT THE LOVE THERE.

IF WE NEED TO KEEP THE LIGHT STRUCTURE. I MEAN, THAT'S.

YEAH. MADAM MAYOR WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION OF THE WEST WALL, WHICH CAN ACCOMMODATE THIS.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE THIS WAS GOING IN THE FIRST PLACE. I THOUGHT, THIS IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE WEST WALL, THIS WALL FACING THE LIBRARY.

YES, IT CAN GO THERE. YES. THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE ALL ITEMS. I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT WE'RE ACTIVATING ONE BUILDING ONLY.

SO, I MEAN, THIS IS THE ONLY BUILDING THAT WE WANT TO DEAL WITH.

AND I'D HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING LOVE ON THE WEST WALL, FIGURING OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE FRONT, KEEPING THE MURAL. THE REASON WE DIDN'T WANT TO.

WELL, AT LEAST I DIDN'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE THE WEST WALL IS THE THE REAL ESTATE.

IT'S MUCH SMALLER, RIGHT? RIGHT. YES, IT IS MUCH SMALLER.

THE MURAL IS ON THE SAME SIZE. REAL ESTATE. AND IT'S ALSO BOTH SIDES IS EXACTLY THE SAME SIZE.

NO, THE WEST SIDE IS. THE WEST SIDE IS MUCH SMALLER.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I MAKE MY COMMENT ABOUT ANOTHER BUILDING IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THE ALSO THE AMOUNT OF VIEWS, THOUGH, THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET SEEN FROM THE LIBRARY PERSPECTIVE AND PEOPLE COMING FROM.

THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER THINGS TO BE CONSIDERING.

EVEN THOUGH IF THIS REAL ESTATE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, I'M NOT THINKING IT'S THOUSANDS SQUARE FEET SMALLER.

AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT IS OUR CITY'S GOAL? WHAT IS OUR PURPOSE? DO WE WANT TO HAVE THREE PIECES OF ART, SO TO SPEAK, OR IS IT TO.

TWO PIECES. KEEPING ONE AND SELECTING ONE. ANYBODY WANT TO? OKAY. NO. THEN ARE WE GOING BACK? I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I LIKE THE MURAL. COLORS ARE KIND OF LOUD. LOOKS VERY WYNWOOD ISH.

THE LIGHTS LOOK VERY VEGAS ISH ON THE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

I THINK THE LIGHTS ARE KIND OF DULL WITH THE BLUE. I KNOW THIS IS NOT A ACTUAL RENDITION OF THE BILL, BUT THE BLUE. THE THE COLORS DON'T REALLY STAND OUT, AND I DON'T THINK IT MATCHES WITH THE COLORS OF THE OF THE MURAL AT THE BACK.

SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENCY AND DESIGN INTEGRATING.

IF WE'RE GOING TO AGGREGATE THE LIGHTS WITH THE MURAL, LIKE KIND OF HAVE THAT MATCH RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I LIKE THE DESIGN BY EMILY FOR THE FRONT. NOT A BIG FAN OF THE LIGHTS.

I LIKE THE A LOT MORE. WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE? WELL, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS THE.

EMILY. EMILY? YEAH. AND THEN THE SECOND. IF THAT WASN'T IT, IT WAS THEN, BRIAN, FOR BEING THE UNDER PART OF THE ENTRYWAY,

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IT'S PRETTY BIG. OR A SIMPLE SUN. RAINBOW, SUN, RAINBOW.

COLORS OF A SUN. WHICH HONESTLY, THINKING ABOUT IT, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT ONE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS.

EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN. AND THAT COMPLETELY REMINDS ME OF THEIR LOGO.

AND I LOVE CORAL SPRINGS, BUT WE'RE TAMARAC AND YOU KNOW, I'M VERY PARTIAL TO US.

SO YEAH, I THINK THE LIGHTS ILLUMINATE THE BUILDING AT NIGHT.

I THINK THE MURAL DOES IT IN THE DAYTIME. TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES THAT THEY'RE SERVING.

BUT AGAIN, FOR ME, IT'S A COLOR THING. I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT MATCHING THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT VISUALLY.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE IT KIND OF MATCHING.

PERHAPS I WAS GOING TO CHANGE IF YOU CHANGE THE COLORS, BUT THAT THAT IS MY TAKE ON ON THE THIS THIS, THIS PART OF IT, IF I MAY. COMMISSIONER. RIGHT.

WOULD THE LIGHT WILL THE LIGHT WITH EMILY IS PROGRAMABLE IF IF IT'S THE WISH OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO HAVE IT, FOR INSTANCE, HAVE HOLIDAYS, LIGHTING IT CAN HAVE THAT AT A PARTICULAR TIME.

SO ALL OF THAT CAN BE ARRANGED BY THROUGH PROGRAMING.

OKAY. THIS IS JUST A STATIC IMAGE. SHE PROVIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WHATEVER THE COLORS ARE WE CAN THESE CAN BE CHANGED.

YEAH. YEAH. MAKES SENSE. MAKES SENSE. NOT A BIG FAN OF THE LIGHTS BUT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO WHY DON'T WE SEEM TO GO TO THE NEXT ITEM AS WE CONTINUE TO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF.

SO YOU GO BACK TO THE SCULPTURES. NO. THERE'S ACTUALLY THE FOUR ITEMS FOR US TO CONSIDER.

SO WE'RE GOING TO THE THIRD ITEM, WHICH IS SLIDE NUMBER 40 SPORTS COMPLEX.

ARTISTIC. 40. SO WITH THE SPORTS COMPLEX CALL TO ARTISTS, WE RECEIVED 69 SUBMISSIONS.

THE BUDGET WAS 50,000. AND THE SELECTED ARTISTS WOULD CREATE SEVEN BENCHES.

THREE ARTISTS WERE SHORTLISTED WHOSE WORK WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.

AND THEY EACH WERE GIVEN A STIPEND OF $1,500.

THE CALL TO ARTISTS SPECIFIED DESIGNING BENCHES THAT WOULD CONNECT WITH THE THEMES IN THE PARK.

THE SPORTS ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE PLACE IN THE PARK AS WELL.

AND YOU WILL SEE, THERE WAS THERE'S ONE SUBMISSION THAT SORT OF VEERED OUTSIDE OF THAT, BUT WAS WE FELT THE COMMITTEE SHOULD SAY WAS KIND OF UNIQUE. AND THAT WAS THAT THE, THE DIVING BOARD.

SO ANGIE AND AND JOSH CARROLL ACTUALLY, THEY PROVIDED US A MODEL MAQUETTE, THE YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMITTEE TO SEE. THE MEASUREMENTS FOUR FEET HIGH BY FIVE FEET IN LENGTH AND FOUR FEET IN DEPTH. THE MATERIALS BEING RECOMMENDED ALUMINUM POWDER COATED AND THEN FOR THE SEATING AREA.

THE POLY LUMBER. HIGH DENSITY POLY ETHYLENE. THE OTHER ARTISTS CAN TO TO TO ME TSUNAMI HE PRESENTED THESE ARE THE SEVEN DESIGNS AND PROPOSING TO TAKE THESE SEVEN DESIGNS AND ACTUALLY USED USE RECYCLED AIRPLANE. YES. AND SO WE'LL SHOW YOU NOW WHAT HE'S PROPOSING FOR THE SEVEN. AND ANY OF THEM COULD HAVE THE ARK, THE SHELTER. YEAH, YEAH. ANY OF THEM? HOW HIGH IS THE ARK? I'M SORRY. HOW HIGH? THE DIMENSIONS. I DON'T YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT MAYBE 5 TO 6FT IN IN IN DIAMETER. GREG MUELLER THESE WERE THE INSPIRATIONS FOR THE WORK YOU'LL SEE HERE. HE'S HE'S SUGGESTING FOR THE CREATION, THE FOOTBALL BENCHES.

BASEBALL. TENNIS.

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VERY DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE. AND. ENGENDERS CONVERSATION.

DOES IT COME WITH A STATUTE LAYING ON IT? IF NOT PEOPLE LAYING? THESE ARE ALL SELECTED OR THERE NEEDS TO BE A THESE ARE THE THREE THAT ARE BEING YOU KNOW, PRESENTED TO YOU AND WANTED TO GET YOUR CONSENSUS OF WHICH ARTIST YOU WOULD PREFER.

IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER. ONE OR THE OTHER. IT'S ONE OF THESE THREE.

YES. NOT OKAY. WHICHEVER ONE YOU PREFER WOULD CREATE THE SEVEN BENCHES.

OKAY. I LIKE GREG. I LIKE GREG. GREG IS MY FAVORITE BY FAR.

GREG. YEAH, I LIKE THE BENCHES, BASEBALL, FOOTBALL, TENNIS.

AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THEY'RE UNIQUE PIECES.

AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A SPORTS COMPLEX AND THERE'S, THERE'S SOME CREATIVITY THAT WENT INTO IT, LIKE THE SKATEBOARD BENCH THE SWIMMING, DIVING AND THE BASEBALL BENCHES.

HE HAS FIRST BASE, SECOND BASE AND HOME PLATE.

THE TENNIS RACKETS. THAT'S THAT'S VERY CREATIVE.

AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD WHERE YOU HAVE THE FIELD GOAL POSTS ON BOTH ENDS WITH THE FOOTBALL FIELD.

SO, YEAH, HE'S HE'S BY FAR AND AND YOUR YOUR FEELINGS REGARDING THE MS. THE DIVING BOARD. YEAH. THE DIVING BOARD. YEAH.

IT LOOKS LIKE AN OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SEE. SO I LIKE GREG.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SEE ABOUT ALL SEVEN OUT OF THE GREG AND GREG WINS.

I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T JUST I SEE PEOPLE MARKING THINGS.

SO WAITING TO COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, ARE YOU TURNED OVER? OKAY. I THINK THAT IS ENOUGH. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.

I, I DON'T CARE FOR THE FIRST ONE. ANGIE AND JOSH I ACTUALLY LIKED THE KEN TSUNAMI.

I LIKE THE ARCH. I LIKE THE COVERING. WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY? DOESN'T LIKE THE FIRST ONE. THE FIRST ONE? NO, THE THE FIRST DESIGNS.

ANGIE BLACK AND JOSH CARROLL. SHE DOESN'T KNOW.

YEAH. WE'RE ON. YEAH, WE'RE ON THE 41 AND 4241.

SLIDE 41 AND 42. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THE BALL.

YEAH I DON'T LIKE THE BALL. I DO LIKE KEN TSUNAMI.

I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A COVERING OVER ONE FOR SOME SHADED AREA.

IF YOU WANT TO SIT OUT AND READ A BOOK, IT IS HOT.

A LOT OF THE TIMES. SO I DO LIKE THAT. COULD WE DO.

THERE'S SEVEN BENCHES TO BE INSTALLED. DO THEY ALL HAVE TO COME FROM THE SAME VENDOR, OR COULD WE GET HALF FROM ONE AND HALF FROM THE OTHER? THE CALL TO ARTIST WAS BASED UPON THE ARTIST SELECTED DURING ALL SEVEN.

IT CAN ARE WE. DOES THAT HAVE TO. CAN IT BE CHANGED? I'M SORRY. CAN THAT BE ADJUSTED TO ZOO? WE COULD APPROACH THE ARTIST.

TYPICALLY THEY FACTOR IN USING THEIR BUDGET BASED UPON THE BUDGET.

WHAT THEY CAN AND WON'T, WILL BE ABLE TO DO. I.

OKAY. I MEAN, I LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER ONE. I DON'T LIKE THEM ALL.

SOME OF THEM, SOME OF THEM I'M CONCERNED WITH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAFETY HAZARDS.

THE FOOTBALL POSTS. YEAH. THE POSTS, THE THE TENNIS RACKETS.

I MEAN, I COULD SEE PEOPLE SITTING ON THOSE AND CAUSING DAMAGE.

YOU PUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY EVEN TRIP HAZARD THE WAY IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SOME OF THEM I DON'T CARE FOR FOR CERTAIN REASONS.

THE SKATEBOARD SEEMS REALLY LOW. IS THAT GOING TO BE LIKE STANDARD SITTING HEIGHT, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE A LOW TO THE GROUND TYPE.

LET'S SEE WHAT DIMENSIONS IN TERMS OF HEIGHT.

TYPICALLY 16IN IS TYPICALLY THE HEIGHT FOR THE SEATING.

SO IS IT AT. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S CREATIVE, YOU KNOW, FROM A THE WHEELS ARE 16 ALONE SO IT'S ALREADY ABOVE THE STANDARD HEIGHT FOR SEATING. IT JUST APPEARS LOW BECAUSE OF THE, THE SIZE OF THE PICTURE.

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IT'S ABOUT IF I CAN READ CORRECT. 15 OR 10FT.

YEAH. SO IT'S LONG, BUT IT IS KNEE REGULATIONS LIKE BAR SEATING.

YEAH. I, I THINK I PERSONALLY WOULD GO WITH IF THEY'RE NOT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IF IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER I WOULD GO WITH KEN TSUNAMI.

OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. DANIEL.

SO JUDGING THESE I DO LIKE. THE CREATIVITY OF THE ONES WITH THE SPORTS.

I LIKE. WHAT IS HIS NAME? GREG. GREG. GREG MILLER.

YEAH, I DO LIKE HIS BECAUSE IT'S CREATIVE. THE CANVAS, I THINK, IS NICE FOR GROWN UPS LIKE MYSELF.

BUT SEEING THAT THE PARK IS NOT JUST FOR ME, I THINK I WOULD GO WITH YEAH, BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SIT ON THAT AND NOT GET HIT BY THE SUN, BUT FOR THE KIDS SAKE AND GO WITH THE DESIGN OF THE PARK.

I DO LIKE THE FOOTBALL, BUT YEAH, THOSE THINGS STANDING UP SEEM LIKE THEY COULD BE HAZARDOUS.

HAZARDOUS. BUT THERE ARE STUFF YOU COULD BUY TO PUT AROUND IT.

CUSHIONING. I KNOW YOU DO THAT FOR BASKETBALL POLES THAT WOULD PREVENT IT FROM BEING IF, IF IF THIS PARTICULAR PROTOTYPE IS RECOMMENDED, WE CAN STILL GET IN TOUCH WITH PUBLIC SERVICES ENSURED THAT AND PARKS AND REC THAT THEY MEET SAFETY.

AND THEN WE CAN CONVEY THAT TO THE ARTISTS. THEY MAY BE SHORTER THAN IN LENGTH AND THEN WHATEVER.

YEAH, I DO THINK IT'S CUTE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SECOND ONE.

WHAT IS THAT? THOSE ARE BASEBALL CHAIRS. THOSE ARE BASEBALL CHAIRS.

OKAY, SO IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A BASE AND THEN LEGS.

OH, OKAY. YEAH, I DIDN'T GET THAT WITH BASEBALL BATS.

YEAH, I DIDN'T GET THAT ONE, BUT I LIKE THE TENNIS MRS. NICE. I LIKE THE SKATEBOARD. IF IT'S NOT TOO LOW, BECAUSE THEN HOW CAN YOU BEND THAT LOW? YOU SURE IT'S NOT TOO LOW? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LOW, BUT WHATEVER.

THERE MIGHT BE A SAFETY ISSUE. WE WE CAN WE CAN TELL THE ARTIST THAT WE WANT IT STANDARD HEIGHT.

BASICALLY, LET THEM MODIFY THE DESIGN TO MAKE IT STANDARD HEIGHT.

YEAH. AND I WOULD AGREE IF WE COULD HAVE MIXED THEM YOU KNOW LIKE COUPLE OF THE I'M GOING TO ASK MELISSA HOW MANY SPOTS THEY HAVE FIRST. BECAUSE THIS WILL LOOK GOOD ALONG THE WALKING PATH. SO PARKS AND REC INITIALLY ASKED FOR FIVE SEATS AND WHEN WE ADDED LIKE TWO MORE.

SO THEY AGAIN IT'S A PARKS AND REC DECISION ON HOW MANY BENCHES THEY WANT.

OH NO I WAS SAYING ABOUT THE ARTISTS IF YOU COULD COMBINE BOTH.

YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. MAYOR THE CONVERSATION.

YEAH. I THINK IT'S COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S DISTRICT, SO SHE SHOULD KIND OF, LIKE, GET FIRST DIBS.

SO I'LL GO WITH HER OPTIONS. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? NO, I JUST I, I YEAH, IF THERE'S A WAY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE ARTIST TO SEE IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DO A COUPLE OF ONE AND THEN. YES, THE OTHERS.

YES, I WOULD LIKE TO DO MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO ANYTHING.

BUT IF NOT, YEAH, I THINK I WOULD JUST GIVEN ALL OF THE CONCERNS AROUND THE I THINK THEY'RE CUTE, THEY'RE CREATIVE, BUT I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ONES, THE OTHER ONES.

SO HEARING THAT, IF I ALSO HEARD CORRECTLY, WE'RE PICKING SEVEN.

BUT THE CALLS REALLY FOR FIVE WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TWO MORE.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THE FIVE FROM THE ONE AND TWO FROM THE OTHER, AND THE TWO FROM THE OTHER WITH THE CIRCLE OVER IT, THE HALL OVER IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE GREG MUELLER, BECAUSE I LIKE THE GREG MUELLER.

I TOO HAD THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THE POST BEING TOO HIGH.

AND THE SKATEBOARD BEING TOO LOW. IT MIGHT NEED TO BE SHORTENED JUST A LITTLE BIT.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WATER BOARD, THE DIVING BOARD, WHICH I WOULD PUT IN OUR SPORTS OR WATER OR AQUATIC PARK.

NOT HERE. ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS I HAVE IS IF WE MAKE IT TOO COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE TO LAY ON THESE THINGS, EVEN IN THE COVERED BENCHES, THEY'RE NOT GOING HOME.

RIGHT? WE'RE HAVING THAT ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE THEY DO IT ON THE BUS STOPS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.

AND YES, WE CLOSE THE PARKS, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE CLOSE THE PARKS, BECAUSE I WAS AT ONE OF OUR PARKS WHERE I WATCHED A KID JUMP THE FENCE

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OKAY, SO WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT BECAUSE OF ALSO THE SAFETY PARTS OF IT AND THE CLEANLINESS PARTS OF IT.

WHEN PEOPLE DECIDE TO USE SOME OF OUR BENCHES FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN TEMPORARY SEATING.

SO I HAPPEN TO ALSO THINK ANGIE AND JOSH'S THINGS ARE CUTE, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE.

TYPICAL WHERE YOU'D SEE SOMEWHERE ELSE SO THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. BUT ON THE THE CONCERNS FOR THE BASEBALL, FOR THE FOR THE TENNIS RACKETS. ACTUALLY, MAYBE WE CAN, BECAUSE I DO SEE WHERE SHE'S SITTING TO THE SIDE WHERE PART OF THAT THE RACKET GOES THE WHOLE LENGTH TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO LITTLE DIVOT THERE.

ALSO, CAN'T BE HOT AGAINST THE SKIN WHEN YOU SIT DOWN IN SHORTS, BUT MAYBE THEY COULD PUT A, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE A TENNIS BALL AS A SEAT SORT OF IN FRONT OF THE RACKET SOMEWHERE, OR MAYBE ON EACH SIDE OF THE RACKET, MAKING IT ALSO ADDITIONAL SEATING OR A PLACE FOR SOMEBODY TO PUT THEIR BAG.

OBVIOUSLY NOT TOO ROUND OR ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO FALL OFF, BUT KIND OF LIKE A YOGA BALL.

BUT I WOULD THINK THAT THE GOALPOSTS. IT'S VERY CUTE.

AGAIN, PUTTING THAT DOWN AND RAISING UP THE THE SEAT.

ONE, TWO. THREE. FOUR. AND THEN MAKE SURE THE PIGEONS AND THE IGUANAS NOT PULLING ON THEM. WELL, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT I CAN'T SIT ON IT ANYWAY.

SO ARE YOU GOING TO PERIODICALLY CLEAN IT? BECAUSE THAT PART. WELL, YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT ANYWHERE.

JUST. JUST AS BACKUP. THE SAME CONCERNS YOU ARE VOICING ALREADY BEEN VOICED BY THE BY THE CITY MANAGER, AND BY THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND BY PUBLIC SERVICES REGARDING THE MATERIAL REGARDING THE HEAT ABSORPTION.

SO WE'RE ALREADY AWARE OF ALL THESE. IF IT COMES TO CHOOSING GREG MUELLER IN PARTICULAR AND WE THERE WILL BE FURTHER CONVERSATION AFTER WHETHER THIS IS WHAT THE WAY YOU WANT REGARDING MATERIAL AND REGARDING PAINT AND REGARDING ALL THOSE ASPECTS AND SAFETY, ESPECIALLY SAFETY. YEAH. AND THEN FOR THE KEN TSUNAMI ON THE PICTURE, IT APPEARS THAT IT'S BLACK.

I'M PRESUMING WE'RE NOT USING BLACK. WELL, MAKING A PRESUMPTION ONLY DUE TO THE PIGEON CONCERNS THAT YOU SEE ALL THE POOP AND HOW HOT IT COULD BE WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE OTHER BEAUTIFUL COLORS TO UTILIZE THE BEAUTIFUL COLORS THAT ARE WITHIN THE BENCH AND INCORPORATED. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE TOP ONE.

THAT'S THIS ONE. THAT'S WHAT YOU THOUGHT THIS? THOSE WERE THE COLORS. YOU THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO COME UP. YEAH. THAT'S I DON'T KNOW.

SAY IT AGAIN. THE THOSE ARE THE COLORS I THOUGHT YOU WERE I WAS TALKING.

OH I'M SORRY I CAN'T STRETCH THIS ONE. THIS IS THE CANVAS AND THAT'S WHAT'S PAINTED.

OH. SO PRETTY IT'S VERY PRETTY. WHICH ONE. LET ME SEE.

SO SHE THOUGHT BASICALLY WAS THIS NOT REALIZING IT WAS THIS.

OH, OKAY. AND SO BASICALLY FOR THE CAMERA FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS IS THE CANVAS, THIS IS THE ART.

SO THIS WAS PAINTED ON THIS AND THAT WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE OF WHAT'S THE MATERIAL OF THE BENCH.

THAT'S THE OTHER THING IT DOES NOT SAY HERE LOOK WHAT IS THAT IS WHAT'S THE MATERIAL OF THE MATERIAL ON THE SIDE, THE ACTUAL SEATING PART, IS IT LIKE A SMOOTH SURFACE? IT'S JUST WOOD, MOSTLY COATED. I DO RECALL A TURBINE FROM A JET ENGINE, BUT IT'S METAL. IT'S METAL.

OKAY. IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE HOT. YEAH, JUST A LITTLE HOT.

JUST JUST A LITTLE A LITTLE TOASTY. AND ALSO, QUITE HONESTLY, WHAT SIZE IS IT? BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO DIMENSIONS HERE. AND I FEEL THAT SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT I WAS ON MAKING FOR SOME OF THE ARTS SEATING THAT WE'VE HAD, THAT'S AROUND THE CITY, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SEATING AND IT'S SEATING, IT'S VERY SMALL.

DIDN'T RISE TO THE. IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

I THINK ONE OF THE COMMENTS AGAIN, THE EXECUTIVE TEAM MEETINGS THAT THEY SHOULD BE LIKE FIVE FEET BECAUSE THAT'S THE STANDARD SIZE.

YEAH. YEAH. AND THIS TOO WOULD NEED TO BE. B WE WOULD NEED CUT SHEETS ABOUT THE ALL THE SPECS, HEIGHT, WIDTH AND ALL THAT. SO I GUESS IT COMES BACK DOWN TO YOU NEED CONSENSUS ON SOMETHING YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS ON.

MUELLER. I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO IS AGAINST THE.

DIVING BOARD. SO IF EVERYBODY WANTS YOU KNOW I AGREE WITH YOU.

OKAY. SO THEN WHICH ITEM IT DOESN'T BELONG. SO WHICH ITEM WOULD BE REPEATED?

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AND THEN WE'VE GOT BASEBALL AND WE'VE GOT OUR FOOTBALL.

AND WELL, WE ALSO DON'T HAVE A SOCCER BALL, BUT OKAY, I, I CAN ALMOST CONFIDENTLY SAY YES.

PICKLEBALL. PICKLEBALL SUCUOGLU. TENNIS. SOCCER.

SO MAYBE. YEAH. YEAH. AND THE RACKETS ARE EASIER TO SIT ON A SOCCER BALL.

NO, THE. YEAH, YOU CAN PUT. YEAH. I THINK SOCCER INSTEAD BECAUSE YOU GOTTA ALREADY HAVE RACKETS.

SO IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO FIRST FIND OUT IF YOU COULD DO BOTH.

YES. WE'RE GOING TO GO ONE. YEAH. WE'RE WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ARTISTS AND GIVE THE CONCERNS WE ALREADY HAVE FROM PUBLIC SERVICES, FROM THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, FROM YOUR COMMENTS, AND PUT THEM TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT IS SAFE, NOT TOO HOT AND NOT HIGH MAINTENANCE, NOT HIGH MAINTENANCE, NOT 100% COMFORTABLE.

YEAH. MAKE THE DUCKS DON'T LIKE TO GO THERE. DON'T BE GOING.

THOSE IGUANAS ARE EATING ALL OUR BABY OWLS ANYWAY.

SO. AND THEN IF WE CAN DO MORE LIKE THE TWO ARTISTS, THEN THE OTHER ONE WOULD COME IN TO BE MR. TSUNAMIS. AND ARE WE SAYING TWO OF THE ENCLOSED VERSUS JUST ONE ENCLOSED? TWO ENCLOSED. OKAY. THE REGULAR ENCLOSED FIVE.

IF WE HAVE THE. CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY.

YAY! WE GOT THROUGH ONE OF THE FOUR. NOW WE HAVE THE.

WELL, ISN'T THERE A FOURTH ONE OF THIS OR IS WE HAVE INSPIRATION? WAIT. I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE THE MURAL AND. NO, NO, WE HAVE NOT FINISHED THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AS MUCH AS YOU MAY WANT TO BE DONE WITH US AND AS A MURAL, HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER BECAUSE I AGREE, THAT'S OUR BUSIEST LOCATION. DOES IT NEED MORE ATTENTION? I DON'T ARE YOU MEANING BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS FOR ATTENTION? I SAID IT WOULD BE MORE VISIBLE, YOU FACING COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT.

WE WANT OUR ART PIECES TO BE NOTICED. WHY DO WE HAVE TWO OF OUR PIECE ALONG THE WATER IN THE BACK BY THE LIBRARY? WELL, BECAUSE DON'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. IT'S OKAY. BUT I DO LIKE THE LIGHTS.

BUT I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY. IF I WAS LIVING ACROSS THE STREET, I'D BE MAD TO SEE THAT EVERY NIGHT.

I'M MORE CONCERNED THAT THEY WOULDN'T SEE IT.

WE CAN. WE CAN ACCESS THE LIGHT. AND THEY'RE NOT BUILDING.

RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT BUILDING RIGHT NOW. HOLD OFF ON THE CONVERSATION FOR NOW.

GO WITH THE LIGHTS AND MOVE TO THE WEST. ARE WE TRYING TO PUT ALL THE LIGHTS AND MOVE LOVE TO THE WEST? OKAY. THAT'S THE ONE. THAT'S A LOT, I THINK. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT MAYOR SOMEBODY TO HELP MAKE SOME DECISIONS HERE BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH.

MAY I SUGGEST THAT WE HOLD OFF ON THE LIGHT CONVERSATION FOR FOR FOR NOW.

BUT I THINK YOU CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LOVE CONVERSATION WITHOUT THE LIGHT CONVERSATION.

IF THE LIGHT CONVERSATION WAS SPECIFICALLY PUT OUT FOR BID TO BE AT THIS LOCATION.

SO WE DO NEED TO EITHER WE'RE PUTTING THE TABLING BOTH OR.

SO WE RECOMMEND HOLDING BACK ON THE LIGHT CONVERSATION AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE MURAL.

WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH THE BID THAT WENT OUT.

SO BECAUSE IF WE'RE MOVING KEEPING LOVE THERE, THEN IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY THIS COMMISSION SEEMS TO BE KILLING THE LIGHT.

SO YOU'RE NOT HOLDING IT, YOU'RE KILLING IT OR STOPPING YOU PREFER THE LIGHT AND NOT BUILDING THE MURAL.

I THINK THE MURAL IS NOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE MURAL.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ARTISTIC, BUT IT SEEMS A LOT.

WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH MURALS. SO. WAIT A SECOND. YES. WE CAN'T ACTUALLY. WHY DON'T WE PUT LOVE ON BSO WHERE WE GOT RID OF LADY GLASSMAN, RIGHT. SO WHAT? WHAT'S SO FUNNY ABOUT THAT. YEAH.

SO, SEEING KNOWING THE BACK. IT'S A CITY BUILDING.

IT'S GOT GREAT EXPOSURE. WHICH IS WHY THE COUNTY PUT LADY GLASSMAN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND IT WAS PART OF THE 100 COLLECTION OF, OF ART IN THE IN THE COUNTY COMMUNITY CENTER IS THE MOST YOU KNOW, VISITED AND TRAVELED LOCATION. THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU COULD DO TO THAT POOR BUILDING, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT THE LOVE AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER REASON WHY WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING IT ON THE TAMARAC VILLAGE AMPHITHEATER WAS WHAT THE AMPHITHEATER WAS BEING CONVERTED TO, HAVE IT FACING COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD RIGHT THERE.

BUT SINCE THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND THERE'S A DESIRE TO GET LOVE UP SOONER THAN LATER,

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THE LOVE? YEAH. WELL, ORIGINALLY THE BACK OF WHERE THE AMPHITHEATER WAS GOING TO BE WAS GOING TO BE FACING COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE SEEING THE HOMELESS PEOPLE SLEEPING THERE. THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION.

ANYWAY, YES, I CONCUR WITH I CONCUR WITH HOLDING OFF ON THE LIGHTING AND FOCUSING IN ON THE MURAL, AND BECAUSE SOMEBODY JUST GOT PRESSURE BECAUSE THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE OF COURSE, YOU MAY BE AWARE THERE'S OTHER CITIES WHO'VE ALREADY HAD THEIR LOVE MURALS DONE.

AND FOR THIS PARTICULAR ARTIST WORKING WITH THE BROWARD BUSINESS FOR THE ARTS THEY'RE SLATED FOR TO, TO DO THIS YEAR. TAMARAC BEING ONE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE BEING THE CITY OF POMPANO BEACH.

SO THE OTHER THING THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THE MURAL, WITH THE HISTORIC, WITH THE HISTORY OF THE, OF THE CITY, WHICH OUR PUBLIC ART MAINTENANCE CONTRACTOR HAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, AND WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT.

SO IT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED YET. OKAY, SO THEN SHOULDN'T LOVE GO TO ANOTHER BUILDING INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CREATE PROBLEMS WITH WHATEVER CONTRACTS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH THE MURAL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THERE, WHICH MIGHT BE YOUR STANDALONE PIECE OF ART, UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT CERTAIN TIME PERIODS RUN OUT.

AND THIS WAY WE'RE NOT LOSING OUR SPACE WITH BROWARD COUNTY COMMUNITY FOUNDATION ARTISTS, AND WE CAN STILL GET LOVE UP.

SO WE SHOULD PUT IT ON OUR NEW COMMUNITY CENTER WHEN IT'S WELL.

THAT OUR CITY HALL, WHICH IS EVEN FURTHER OUT THAN THAT ONE.

ANYHOW, JUST LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. WE GOT TO HAVE FUN.

SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOT TO HAVE FUN. SO IF THE BACK OF TAMARAC VILLAGE IS NOT SO DESIRED YET, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THAT BUILDING IS SUPPOSEDLY COMING DOWN.

QUESTION WHETHER IT'S GOING BACK UP FROM COMMENTS I'M HEARING.

THEN WE KNOW BSO IS HERE AND IT HAS TO BE ON THE BUILDING.

THE MURAL. YES. YES, MA'AM. YES. AND IT HAS. I BELIEVE IT HAS TO BE ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

RIGHT. PINE ISLAND IS A SUPER MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

THAT'S WHY BROWARD COUNTY IS EXPANDING IT FROM THE TWO LANES UP AND BACK TO A THREE LANE UP AND BACK.

SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT IT WON'T HAVE VISIBILITY AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF. AND PEOPLE COME TO CITY HALL ALL THE TIME, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE EVENTS IN THE MIDDLE TAMARAC THE TURKEY TROT AND, YOU KNOW, THE AMPHITHEATER, IT HAS THIS VIBE. ANYWAY, IT DOES HAVE THE VIBE FOR THE AMPHITHEATER, BUT IS THERE CONCERNS ABOUT IT COMING DOWN? SO. WHY DON'T WE ASK? AND THEN HE CRACKS UP. HE HE OR THE PATHS CAPTAIN DIDN'T GET CONVERSATION ON WHICH, WHEN GLASSMAN WENT UP.

LADY GLASSMAN WENT UP. BUT IF YOU WISH TO COME TO THE TABLE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SAY YOUR PIECE OR NOT.

CHEAP OR NOT OR NOT. BUT HERE, IT'S LIKE I'M OUT OF HERE.

CAPTAIN FRANK, BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE, TAMARAC DISTRICT.

GOT TO GET YOU A SEAT THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT BELT OF YOURS.

IT HAPPENS. THE ONLY THING WITH THAT TYPE OF THING, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WOULD BE.

WHAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT IT'S STILL MARKED AS A DISTRICT OFFICE, POLICE DEPARTMENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I WANT TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S MY ISSUE WITH HAVING ANY TYPE OF THAT TYPE OF ART.

IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE OUTSIDE TO SIGNIFY IT AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICE, THAT PEOPLE MAY THINK IF YOU PUT SOMETHING OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ANY TYPE OF ARTWORK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IT MIGHT DETRACT FROM WHAT THEY MAY THINK OF WHAT IT IS.

SO WE JUST NEED THEM TO KNOW THAT IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. I HEAR YOU. BUT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, WE HAD LADY GLASSMAN UP THERE FOR ABOUT 6 OR 7 YEARS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT LADY. IT BASICALLY IT WAS LADY JUSTICE, A DESIGN OF LADY JUSTICE.

OKAY, I UNDERSTAND WE NICKNAMED HER LADY GLASSMAN BECAUSE SHE WAS UNDER THE PREVIOUS CHIEF. YES.

AMONGST OTHER REASONS, WE WERE HAVING FUN WITH IT.

SO WHEN YOU FACE YOUR BUILDING, IT'S ON THE LEFT WALL, THE BIG LEFT WALL.

AND IT WAS THERE FOR YEARS. YOU STILL HAD BSO DISTRICT SEVEN.

THERE WAS NOTHING THAT HID. THERE'S NOTHING THERE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A BLANK CANVAS. RIGHT I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT. IT'S CLEARLY MARKED AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICE THAT PEOPLE DON'T TAKE AS BEING SOME SORT OF A NEW D7, THAT YOU HAVE THAT NEW D7 LOGO AND ASK THEM TO PAINT IT ON THE BOTTOM.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT AND HAVE A NICE BSO STAR ON THERE, TOO.

OH, WOW. RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. RIGHT AFTER LAUGHTER LOVE.

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I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD LOCATION. I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF KEEP THE.

FIRST OF ALL, I'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 14 YEARS. I'VE NEVER SEEN A GLASS MURAL MYSELF, SO NO ONE WOULD EVER EVEN NOTICE IT. SECONDLY, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THE NATURE. YES, WE WE WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE, BUT I THINK WE'RE SENDING THE MESSAGE AS A GOVERNMENT.

WE NEED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE.

IT NEEDS TO SIGNIFY SERIOUS. YEAH. NOT TO SUGGEST LOVE DOESN'T MEAN THAT, BUT THERE IS A BIT OF A I DON'T AGREE COMMISSIONER OF THE BUILDING. ON TOP OF THE CITY HALL. NO, NO, JUST LOOK AT THE FRONT OF YOUR PRESENTATION.

BECAUSE WE FLY OUR DRONES OVER OUR CITY HALL ALL THE TIME.

AND ACTUALLY THAT ROOF NEEDS TO BE REDONE, SO THAT'LL COME OFF IMMEDIATELY.

YES. ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO MENTION IN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE WALLS IS THE MURAL.

THE DESIRE IS SO THAT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TAKING SELFIES SO THAT TAMARAC NAME AND IS PART OF THE PHOTO, SO THAT IT CAN BE USED IN THAT ASPECT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS AS WE GAVE THEM OUR FEEDBACK FOR JUST THIS INITIAL THIS INITIAL RENDITION FOR FOR THE MURAL. SO LOCATION IS IMPORTANT. AND THE BSO OFFICE WOULD NOT SPECIFICALLY ALLOW FOR YOU KNOW, SOMEONE TO COME AND DO A SELFIE. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I WILL DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE, BECAUSE THERE'S PARKING AND THERE'S A STREET, THERE'S A PATHWAY, THERE'S ACTUALLY SIDEWALK THAT GOES FROM THERE OVER TO TAMARAC TO STATION 41 AND COMES RIGHT UP HERE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT ONE ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S THE SAFEST PLACE FOR A SELFIE, ESPECIALLY BEING BY THE COPS. BUT ANYWAY, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET SUPPORT.

SO IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIND PLACEMENT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THIS UP.

SO. SO MAYBE WE JUST LET THEM. MAYBE YOU GUYS KIND OF GO AROUND AND IDENTIFY SOME LOCATIONS THAT IT COULD WORK FOR.

AND THEN WE JUST COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

THAT I MEAN I MEAN, ANYWHERE THAT WE PROPOSE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST DO WE OWN THAT COULD ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE THIS? JUST TWO. RIGHT. GIVEN THEIR CRITERIA. DO THEY HAVE TO BE ON GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS? CAN IT BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? I BELIEVE IT CAN BE. YES, YES. SO WHOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY ARE WE GOING TO COMMANDEER AND ASK THEM TO PUT? THERE'S SONNY'S, THERE'S FERGUSON LIBRARY. LIBRARY.

LIBRARY IS A COUNTY. WE NEED THEIR PERMISSION. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, MAYBE THE COUNTY WOULD BE WOULD BE WILLING TO LET US USE THEIR THEIR BUILDING TO. THEY JUST PAINTED TO. BUT THEY HAVE NO ARTWORK.

THE LOOK I HAVE NO PROBLEM ON THE COUNTY, BUT I'M I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT THOSE BIG BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE GOING TO WANT THAT ON THE SIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY VERSUS THEIR OWN NAMES BEING WRITTEN THAT LARGE ON THE SIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY OF A GRANT.

WELL, NOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM MONEY IN ORDER TO GET THEM TO PUT THEIR THING UP.

BECAUSE BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO ON MCNABB, THERE'S A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT HAS STUDENT ARTWORK ON IT.

SO I THINK YOU CAN ASK PEOPLE, SAY IT. YEAH, YOU CAN ASK YOU CAN ASK THEM POPULAR AS WELL, BUT YOU CAN'T. CAN YOU GO ON THEIR PROPERTIES TO THEN TAKE A SELFIE? I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO BE UP TO THEM WHEN YOU GIVE THEM WHAT THE POSSIBILITY WILL BE AND THEY SAY YAY OR NAY, ALL THEY CAN SAY IS NO OR YES, RIGHT? HAVE FUN.

OKAY. SO WE LOOK FOR BUT THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION ON THE CALLERS.

I HEARD A NOT CONCERN AND AN AGREEMENT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THAT WE'RE ADDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS LOOK MORE TAMARAC.

I DON'T MIND VIBRANT AND BRIGHT AT ALL. I LOVE VIBRANT AND BRIGHT, PERSONALLY, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MORE OF OUR COLORS THAN JUST PRIMARILY THREE COLORS OF THE RAINBOW VERSUS WITH A SPOT OF THE FOURTH.

YEAH, JUST TO BRING ON THIS, TO MAKE THIS OUR CITY COLORS, ISN'T IT? YES. IT'S MISSING. WHAT? IT'S MISSING PURPLE.

IT'S MISSING LIKE ORANGE IS SPOTTED IN THERE.

BUT IT'S THERE'S CONSENSUS TO MAKE IT MORE LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE OUR JUST AS BACK UP INFORMATION FOR OUR LAST CONVERSATION WITH BUSINESS FOR THE ARTS BROWARD, WHICH HAPPENED LAST THURSDAY, THEY WERE ANTICIPATING LIKE ACTUAL PAINTING IN LATE APRIL AND MAY.

AND THEY WERE THEY WANT TO DO IT BEFORE THE HOT AND RAINY SEASON FOR THE ARTISTS.

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SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO JUST TO, TO MAINTAIN OUR, OUR AWARD, BASICALLY OUR GRANT FOR IT IS JUST WE NEED TO MOVE FAST WITH IT.

SO THEN BECAUSE WE WOULD LOSE THE CALLS TO THE BUSINESSES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO DECIDING PLACEMENT.

I'M SURE THAT THE OH, SO YOU PUT THIS IN PLACE OF THE LIGHT, THEN WE WANT TO HAVE THE LIGHT.

NO, I'M LOOKING AT BUT NO, WE'VE DECIDED THAT IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE OF PUTTING THIS ON THE BUILDING WITH THE MURAL ON THE OTHER SIDE, DUE TO THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE FOR THAT. SO WE NEED TO DO THIS SOONER THAN LATER.

WE NEED TO FIND A PLACE FOR IT WITHIN THE COLORS OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

AND SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.

TAMARAC SHOULD BE BLUE IF THAT'S THE CASE. OH NO, THAT'S THE RIBBON.

MAKE IT MORE. BUT NOT PINK. IT SHOULD BE BLUE.

TAMARAC. YES. OH. I'M SORRY. I TOTALLY AGREE ABOUT THAT.

YES. GOTCHA. GOTCHA. SO YOU YOU COME BACK TO US.

WHAT, BY NEXT? WORKSHOP MEETING? OR DO YOU THINK IT CAN COME BACK TO US AND WE CAN DISCUSS THE STRATEGIC PLANNING.

TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO DISCUSS IT. STRATEGIC PLANNING, MARCH 4TH, MAYOR WITHOUT SETTING A TIME CERTAIN.

CAN WE JUST TAKE A LITTLE TIME? YEAH. WE'RE JUST.

I GUESS THE COMMISSION WILL LOOK FORWARD TO YOU COMING BACK TO US AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THERE'S A TIME CONCERN ON IT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF TWO AND THREE, AND NOW WE GOT TO GO BACK TO ONE, WHICH IS THE SELECTION OF STATUTES.

ANYBODY. YEAH. SO GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.

SO DO WE. DO WE I JUST I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO WE DO WE HAVE ANY STRUCTURES IN DISTRICT THREE? DO WE HAVE ANY STRUCTURE, ANY OF THESE IS INSPIRATION WAY INCLUDE? A LOCATION BASED ON NOB HILL AND I THINK DISTRICT TWO.

MAINLY THEY'RE ALL IN DISTRICT. YEAH. YEAH. INSPIRATION WAY IS WAS SET ASIDE ON FROM COMMERCIAL TO MCNABB FOR THE PURPOSE OF THERE EVENTUALLY BEING SOME KIND OF ART.

EVERY TIME WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE AN ART SHOW OF SOME KIND, IT'S RAINED.

IT'S DONE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD TO CANCEL IT, BUT THEN EVENTUALLY WE PICK ART THAT WILL GO INTO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES, OTHER DISTRICTS. THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN DONE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT? I'M SURE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING TO YOUR DISTRICT. IT'S NOB HILL.

NO, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO WE WE CREATED INSPIRATION WAY.

WITH WHAT INTENT? A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE ART IN THE CITY FOR A STANDARD LOCATION.

KIND OF. IN CORAL SPRINGS, YOU HAVE THIS ONE STREET THAT EVERYBODY SEES ART.

AND SO THIS WAS THE STREET. THERE'S 11 SCULPTURES IN DISTRICT TWO.

IT'S 12. YEAH. BUT IT'S I DON'T EVEN SEE I I'VE DRIFT THERE ALL THE TIME.

THAT'S BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE TINY AT THIS TIME, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE.

OOMPH THAT WE HAD ASKED FOR IN THE PAST. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW ISSUES AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME ARTWORK AND COVID AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND SOME OF THE DELAYS. WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN BIGGER PIECES, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN AVAILABLE FOR US DUE TO SOME OF THE DELAYS THAT WE'VE HAD GETTING IT APPROVED. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE SIZE OF THESE.

THEY SEEM TO BE BIGGER THIS YEAR AT LEAST, SO YOU CAN SEE THEM AS YOU DRIVE.

WELL, WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE IT? CITY? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE REASON WHY WE MADE IT THIS WAY. BUT LIKE I'VE HAD RESIDENTS CALL AND ASK ME HOW COME WE DON'T HAVE SCULPTURES IN DISTRICT THREE? I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD WANT SCULPTURES, BUT SINCE WE'VE NEVER HAD THE SCULPTURE SHOW OR WHATEVER THE PURPOSE WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED, WHY WOULD WE NOT RECONSIDER PLACEMENT WE DON'T HAVE? I THINK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION WITH THAT MUCH SPACE FOR CITY USE WHERE WE HAVE.

IT'S THE CITY BLOCKS TO PUT THIS ON. THAT'S WHY THESE THERE WAS ACTUALLY 15 PADS AT ONE POINT.

I WILL TELL YOU THOUGH, REMOVE MISS ELLIE FROM THE ELEPHANT AWAY FROM THAT PLACE.

YOU WILL HEAR IT WILL NOT BE HAPPY WITH US. BUT IF YOU GO DOWN SOUTH GATE, THERE'S A BUNCH OF STATUES THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED OVER THE YEARS FROM THE ARTWORK THAT HAS BEEN ON INSPIRATION WAY PLACED THERE. THE CITY HAS PURCHASED THEM AND PLACED THEM THERE, AND THEN SOME OF THEM ARE ALONG LARGO DE CAMPOS.

AND THERE'S ALSO, IF I MAY, MAYOR. THERE'S ALSO ONE THAT'S AS YOU ENTER INTO THE COLONY WEST ON THE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE THERE.

THAT WAS ANOTHER PIECE THAT WAS PURCHASED. THERE'S ALSO WATER'S EDGE.

ONE OF THE LARGE SCULPTURES IS ACTUALLY AT THAT PLAYGROUND AREA AT THAT PARK THAT'S IN DISTRICT FOUR.

YEAH, HE'S A LOT OF FUN. ABOUT FOUR. YOU HAVE FOUR.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU, IT'D BE. YOU COULD ASK SO MUCH MORE TO IT.

YEAH, YEAH. SO THEY'RE MORE ARE COMING PROVIDED THAT WE LIKE WHAT IS SHOWN AND WE CAN AFFORD IT OUT OF THE PUBLIC ART FUND. THAT'S WHY THEY SHOW US THE PRICES NOW.

[03:35:02]

BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SCULPTURE IN DISTRICT THREE ON KINGS POINT WAY SOMEWHERE.

SO HOW DO WE ADD A I'M, I'M ONLY ASKING THAT WE CONSIDER ADDING ONE THERE, BUT CLEARLY WE'RE NO LONGER ADHERING TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT BECAUSE WE HAVE THEM IN OTHER PLACES. THAT WAS THE INTENT. BUT I'M SAYING LIKE NOW WE HAVE THEM IN OTHER PLACES.

THAT'S INTENT. AFTER THEY DO THEIR NINE MONTHS OR THEIR YEAR ON INSPIRATION, WAY TO PICK A SCULPTURE OR TWO, WHICHEVER ONE WE WANT TO. THEN PLACE THEM ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.

WHICH IS WHY I WAS ASKING EARLIER, IS THERE ANY SCULPTURE THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE NOW THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PURCHASE TO PLACE ELSEWHERE? OR AS WE GO THROUGH THIS LIST AND THERE'S ONE THAT IS LIKED HERE THAT THE CITY KNOWS IT WANTS TO PURCHASE.

BUT THEN IF IT'S THE DECISION OF THE COMMISSION TO THEN SAY, OKAY, ON ON 108 81ST OR 80TH KINGS POINT WAY, THE ONE THAT WE'RE SELECTING NOW WOULD BE PURCHASED AND PLACED THERE AT THE END OF ITS YEAR RUN.

SO THE ONES THAT WERE RECYCLED, THE ONES THAT ARE COMING OFF THE ROTATION NOW.

RIGHT. WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THEM? THE ARTIST JUST TAKE THEM UNLESS WE WANT TO PURCHASE ANY ONE OF THEM.

BUT NONE OF THAT IS BEFORE US, NOT TODAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO HOW DO WE GET THERE? BECAUSE I GUESS IF I HADN'T ASKED THAT QUESTION, I WOULD NEVER KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IS HOW DO I WHAT'S THE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I WHATEVER THE PROCESS SHOULD BE OR WHATEVER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN GET A SCULPTURE IN DISTRICT THREE, WHETHER IT'S BY WAY OF RECYCLING SOMETHING THAT'S COMING OFF THE ROTATION IF AND BEING REPLACED, OR I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN WAITING UNTIL THESE THE YEAR END FOR THE PIECES.

AND IF I MAY ADD ONE OTHER PROCESS THAT TAKES PLACE BEFORE THE EXHIBITION COMES DOWN STAFF SENDS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU WILL REQUESTING THEM TO VOTE ON PEOPLE'S CHOICE AND USUALLY THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE.

THE ARTIST IS THEN AWARDED, YOU KNOW, SOME STIPEND AND THEN THAT PEOPLE'S CHOICE SOMETIMES IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY PURCHASED.

SO THIS TIME AROUND, THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE, THERE WERE NO RESPONSES WHATSOEVER.

NOBODY WANTED FROM THE COMMUNITY. Y'ALL SENT THAT OUT TODAY ON EMAIL TO THE RESIDENTS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. IT'S ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

AND YEAH, IT'S IT'S A SURVEY. AND USUALLY PEOPLE RESPOND TO THE TO THE WHAT, WHAT THE CHOICES CURRENTLY ARE.

AND FOR INSTANCE, ELLIE THE ELEPHANT, IT WAS OVERWHELMING.

EVERYBODY WANTED THAT PARTICULAR TO STAY THAT PARTICULAR SCULPTURE AND NEED A LITTLE TOUCH UP.

YEAH. YES. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THERE ARE CURRENTLY ANY SCULPTURE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO LIKE TO FOR FOR THE CITY TO PURCHASE, WE CAN DO THAT. SO COULD YOU GUYS, I GUESS, SHARE WITH ME WHATEVER THE CURRENT LINE UP.

YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT. YEAH.

FIGURE IT OUT. ALL RIGHT. SO FOR WHAT'S HERE.

I DON'T LIKE 25. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU WHAT I DON'T LIKE.

OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME. I'M GOING TO GO WITH WHAT I DON'T LIKE. OKAY, OKAY. FROM THE SCULPTURES LIST. SO 25 TO 24. 22. 21.

AND THESE ARE THE NUMBERS TO THE SIDE. RIGHT.

OKAY. SLIDE NUMBERS. YEAH. 22, 21 2020. 2017.

13.

NINE. TEN. THREE.

FOUR AND THREE. AND FOUR.

EXACTLY. SO. NOT TRUE. SO WE'VE GOT THE NO VOTE BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON ON ALL THE SCULPTURES, EXCEPT MAYBE LIKE, ONE KEPT GOING ON. I THINK YOU LIKE EIGHT, RIGHT? OR IF I SAY THAT, ARE YOU GOING TO SAY. YEAH, LIKE FIVE. SIX.

I LIKE SEVEN EIGHT. 11. 12.

14. 15. YEAH. YOU SAID 11, RIGHT?

[03:40:02]

ON THE WALL. THIS WALL? YEAH. OKAY. I MADE MY QUOTA.

RIGHT? SURE. OKAY. YOU GOT IT. ACTUALLY, THE DOUBLE HEARTS IS ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND NOB HILL, AND NOBODY LIKE THE DOUBLE HEARTS. THEN AGAIN, IT WAS SMALLER THAN ANTICIPATED.

I CAN SEE THAT THERE WERE NO RESPONSES. NO, NO.

USUALLY THAT PEOPLE VOTE AND RANK THEM. YEAH.

YEAH. THAT HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD FOR US, TOO. YEAH.

OKAY. OKAY. I TURN TO YOU. DID YOU ALREADY KNOW? I DID, AND I SO THIS. I'M NOT SURE I COULD SEE.

ARE WE ARE WE DOING WHAT WE LIKE OR DON'T LIKE? LIKE.

OKAY, GIVE ME WHAT YOU LIKE. I LIKE THE SUN. OKAY.

SO IF YOU WOULD, I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I UNDERSTAND.

JUST GIVE ME, GIVE ME. LET ME GET TO YOU WHERE YOU ARE.

FOR. OKAY. OKAY. MAYBE FOR NUMBER FIVE, ACTUALLY. SO MAYBE FOR NUMBER FOUR. TWO. BUT WHATEVER.

I CAN'T READ THAT. YEAH. OKAY. JUST YOU CAN GIVE ME THE WAVES.

NO, I NEVER NO, SHE DOESN'T CARE FOR SIX. DOESN'T CARE FOR SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE, EIGHT AND NINE.

OKAY.

I MAY BE ON 19. AND MAYBE. IT'S DIFFERENT. I'M TRYING TO PICK STUFF THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THAT'S 19. RIGHT? THAT'S ENOUGH. NOT REALLY. WE MIGHT GET A FEW PIECES, BUT WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING TO THREE. HOW MUCH I GAVE YOU? WE GOT THREE MAYBES AND TWO YESES. THAT'S. YEAH.

THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. SOMEBODY ELSE. OKAY. VICE MAYOR.

COME ON. I KNOW YOU HAVE OPINIONS. YOUR OPINIONS PLEASE.

OKAY, SO I'LL LIKE SLIDE NUMBER FIVE. SLIDE NUMBER SIX. SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN. HOW TALL IS SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT? OKAY.

SLIDE 11. SLIDE NUMBER 12. HE LIKES EVERYTHING.

SLIDE 14.

SLIDE 15. SLIDE 19. 23.

OKAY. SO I AM GOING TO PUT MINE DOWN NOW SO I CAN JUST SEE THE NUMBERS ALL.

SO I WAS FOR ONE OR SORRY 3456I WAS AND MAYBE ON SEVEN I WAS EIGHT NINE. I WAS OKAY WITH 12. CAN YOU START OVER? SURE. TWO. I'M SORRY.

THREE. FOUR. FIVE. SIX.

THAT WAS A MAYBE ON SEVEN. BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE HEIGHT AND THE DEPTH PERCEPTION OF IT.

EIGHT I DIDN'T CARE. 12 WAS FINE IF IT NEEDED TO BE.

13 WAS OKAY, 14 WAS OKAY, OR 15. I KNOW THAT 17 IS NOT LIKED BY MANY, SO I'M JUST GOING TO DROP

[03:45:08]

SO LET'S SEE. WE HAVE FOR THREE. WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE.

FOR FOUR WE GOT FOUR. SO FOUR IS IN, FIVE IS IN.

WE ONLY HAVE AND WE HAVE THREE FOR SIX. YOU GOT ME FOR SIX.

OKAY. YES. SO EDGY FOR SIX. SO WE GOT. SO SIX IS IN SEVEN. NO, NO. REAL. NO. SO EIGHT.

WE GOT CONSENSUS ON EIGHT. NINE. WE HAVE. OH, NO WE DON'T.

WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE ON 910. ONE MORE PERSON FOR NINE.

I REALLY LIKE TENDERNESS. WHICH ONES? WHICH I WAS THE OTHER ONE WITH YOU, SO I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

SO WHY ARE WE SO WELL INTO TENDERNESS? WE CAN COME BACK TO IT IF WE NEED.

YEAH. SO WE ARE SO GOING TO NEED MORE. WHERE DID I LEAVE? TEN? NO, NINE WAS WAS NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE. TEN? NO. 11. 12. WE GOT 11. WE HAVE WE HAVE MORE. NO WE DON'T.

AND NO, WE DON'T. NO. NICE TRY THERE. VICE MAYOR.

COME ON. NO. YEAH. OKAY. I MISSED YOU ON 11. OH, NO, I APOLOGIZE YOU DIDN'T.

YOU GAVE IT OUT OF ORDER. YEAH. SORRY. OKAY, SO WE HAVE ONE.

DO WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE FOR 11, 12? WE GOT THREE PEOPLE FOR 1211.

SO NOW WE'RE ON 12. ONE, TWO. WE'VE GOT CONSENSUS ON 1213.

WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE 14 DOESN'T EVEN APPEAR.

OH 14 IS 114 HAS THREE CRYSTAL MARLON AND YOU KNOW I HAVE NO 14.

IT LOOKS FAMILIAR. THAT'S WHAT I KNOW. I CAN TELL YOU.

14 I SAID, I DO NOT LIKE IT WAS BEFORE US ONCE BEFORE, AND I UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME, I JUST DO NOT LIKE IT.

SO YEAH, I CAN'T SWAY ON THAT ONE. SO NO TO 1415.

I GOT ONE, TWO, I GOT WE GOT CONSENSUS ON 1516.

THERE IS NO 1717. THEY HAD A BLANK SPOT. OKAY.

SO THEN NOBODY WANTS 16 ANYWAY. 17 I'VE GOT ONE I'VE GOT ONE.

OKAY. 18. NONE. 19 I GOT ONE, TWO I'VE GOT A QUESTION MARK ON 19. WELL, YOU GOT ME. NO. KEISHA GAVE ME A QUESTION MARK.

19 IS GOOD. NOW YOU WANT 19 NOW. OKAY, SO THE 19 QUESTION MARK IS GONE.

WE'VE GOT 1920. I GOT ONE. OKAY. 21.

OKAY. SO 21. I'VE GOT 21. RIGHT. WILL YOU DO TO 20.

BUT ANYWAY 21. I'VE GOT TWO FOR 21. SO THERE'S NO 21, 22.

I'VE GOT NONE 23. I GOT 224. NADA. 25. OKAY. WELL SO WE HAVE THREE. FIVE. SIX. EIGHT. 11. 12.

15 AND 19. THAT'S A WHOPPING EIGHT. I MEAN, YOU NEED 11.

WHAT IS THE GUY DOING WITH HIS HAND? WAS THAT WHAT HE'S JUGGLING? THAT'S THE TINY ONE. OKAY. I'VE GOT. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH IT.

WE'VE GOT FIVE. WE'VE GOT THREE, WHICH IS TWIN SOULS.

WE'VE GOT FIVE, WHICH IS LEARNING TO FLY. SIX.

FLUTTERING RAINBOW. EIGHT. THE WAVE. 11. SHE WHO FLIES ABOVE THE TREES.

12. THE POLLINATOR. THE ORIGINAL POLLINATOR VERSUS THE ALTERNATE POLLINATOR 15.

[03:50:08]

WE NEED MORE. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE GOT TENDERNESS.

I HOPE IT DON'T LOOK LIKE A TENDERNESS. IS THE COUPLE HUGGING? WHICH THEN WILL PROBABLY BE YELLED AT BY SOME PEOPLE ABOUT THAT, TOO. JUST LIKE THE LEGS IN THE AIR, RIGHT? NO, THAT'S. NUMBER NINE IS TENDERNESS.

WE KNOW CLARA DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE. IT'S CARBON FIBER AUTOMOTIVE FINISH ON A STEEL BASE.

IT DOES HAVE A LITTLE CATHOLIC SCHOOL CHURCH.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M WORRIED ABOUT US GETTING IN TROUBLE.

IT'S NOT AVAILABLE ANYMORE, IS IT? NO. AND I WAS GOING TO SAY TO COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, THE ARTIST DID SUBMIT SEVERAL COLORS OF THIS.

SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO HIM AND SEE IF IT'S AVAILABLE IN A DIFFERENT COLOR.

IT'S LIKE A WEDDING CAKE TOPPER. IT DOES LOOK LIKE A WEDDING CAKE TOPPER.

BUT THIS IS YOUR CITY FOR YOUR LIFE AND LOVE.

ANY COLOR OTHER THAN WHITE. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? COMMISSIONER. WELL, WELL, NO NO NO. AND I'M SORRY ON THIS ONE.

YOU NEED TO BRING IT BACK BEFORE US, BEFORE WE PICK A COLOR. JUST KIND OF LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN, BIG BIRD WHO WAS STAINLESS STEEL THEN WENT WHITE, HAS NOW BLUE. SOME OF US AGREE. BUT ANYWAY, WE LOST THE VOTE ON THAT ONE AND IT'S NOT UP FOR A CHANGE ANYTIME SOON YET. ANYHOW. BUT AT LEAST WE GOT NINE.

WE STILL NEED TWO MORE. WE NEED TWO MORE. THE FLYING LEG.

ANYBODY? 23? HOW ABOUT THE SUNRISE? I MEAN, DON'T WE CARE ABOUT SUNRISE? IT'S BRIGHT, IT'S YELLOW, IT'S CHEERY. NO WE DIDN'T.

YEAH. NO FOUR IS NOT IN. YES IT IS, IT IS IN.

YES. NO IT'S NOT, IT IS. IT'S ONLY YOU AND ME WHO WANTED IT BEFORE.

OKAY. WHEN YOU ARE. YOU ARE THE QUESTION MARK.

ARE YOU IN? OKAY, SO HER QUESTION'S GONE. WE'VE GOT FOUR IN.

SO THERE'S STILL NINE, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE COUNTED FOUR BEFORE.

NO I DIDN'T. 123456789 TEN I HAVE TEN. I HAVE YOU FOR FOUR.

I HAD ME FOR FOUR. BUT I HAD A QUESTION MARK FOR COMMISSIONER DANIEL.

AND I WAS TRYING NOT TO TWIST HER ARM BEFORE.

IT'S IN TEN. WE HAVE TEN, CORRECT. YEAH, YEAH, I KNOW I HAD A SQUIGGLE.

OKAY, I LIKE SUNSHINE. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? 23 WAS 23, THREE, FOUR. ARE YOU GOING TO SEE HIM 78I YEAH, I DON'T, I THINK 20 I CAN'T EVEN SEE HIM IN THE PICTURE. YEAH, I CAN'T, I CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND ON 23.

THAT'S JUST TOO TINY. SO WE HAVE 11. WE HAVE 11.

OH YOU DO. YEAH. WAIT WAIT WAIT. WHICH ONE. WAIT A SECOND.

YES, PLEASE. NUMBER THREE. NUMBER FOUR. NUMBER FIVE.

YEAH. NUMBER THREE. NUMBER EIGHT. THERE'S NO NUMBER THREE.

NUMBER NINE. NUMBER 11. NUMBER 12. NUMBER 15.

NUMBER 19. NUMBER THREE. NUMBER ONE. AND I BELIEVE NUMBER TEN.

NO, NOT AT ALL. NO. OKAY. SO. 1134. SO WE HAVE TEN NOW.

EIGHT. NINE. YEAH. YEAH. WE HAVE TEN. WE HAVE TEN.

RIGHT. WE HAVE TEN. YOU NEED ONE MORE? YES, PLEASE.

YES. MORE WOULD BE BETTER. I THOUGHT THEY DID CHOOSE NUMBER TEN.

I DON'T LIKE IT. I THINK WE GOT 10 OR 11. I DON'T THINK THEY LOOK ALIKE.

LET'S SEE WHICH IS 14. ARE WE GOING WITH THE BUTTERFLY THEME THEN? OH, NO, 14. I CAN'T DO 12. 12. WE ALREADY HAVE IN THERE.

14 I'M NOT CHANGING MY MIND ON 14. THAT'S AN ALTERNATE.

IT LOOKS FAMILIAR BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE.

AND WE SAID NO. YEAH, WE'VE SAID NO TO IT, SO MAYBE WE JUST 13 DO THE LADY ON THE BUTTERFLY.

WE ASKED 13. NOW THE SEVEN. NO, WE HAVE TOO MANY BUTTERFLIES ALREADY.

KNOW PEOPLE LOVE BUTTERFLIES. WE HAVE TWO YESES.

AND I WAS THE MAYBE FINE. NO LONGER. MAYBE, JUST MAYBE BE BIG ENOUGH ON THE SEVEN SEVEN FOR FOR THE THE CHASE.

[03:55:02]

ONE MORE, PLEASE. YOU WANTED A 12. JUST TO BACK UP.

JUST TO BACK UP? I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO GET.

ALL RIGHT. BACK UP. ANOTHER BUTTERFLY. WE JUST DID THE BUTTERFLY.

YEAH. THERE'S, LIKE THREE BUTTERFLIES. WE HAVE ALL THREE.

WELL, THERE ARE PEOPLE. THERE'S NO. THERE'S NOT A BUTTERFLY.

IT'S NOT. THERE'S THE MONARCH ONE. THERE'S A BICYCLE ONE, AND THERE'S PLASMA IS 13.

AND THEN THERE'S NUMBER SIX. WE ALREADY HAVE SIX AND OH, YES, WE HAVE ALL THREE.

THEN WHAT ABOUT. WE GOT ABOUT 15. WHAT'S COLORFUL? WHAT'S LEFT THAT'S COLORFUL? WELL ZIGZAG. WE SEEN THAT BEFORE.

LIKE, NO MORE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE LOOK LIKE A MONSTER.

OH, YEAH. HE WAS SCARY. YES WE DID. YEAH. SEVENS IN.

TENDERNESS. TENDERNESS WILL BE MADE COLORFUL.

IF YOU HAVE THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, 24, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S NOT MY CHOICE. HOLD ON. EIGHT. MAYBE THE LITTLE MAN THAT WE CAN'T SEE NEED TO GO OUT.

NO. HOW ABOUT PLASMA? WHAT ABOUT 13? I MEAN, IT'S NOT COLORFUL.

BUT IT WAS ON THE ART COMMITTEE'S ORIGINAL SELECTION.

13. GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. I GOT THEN WE GOT THREE.

OKAY, 13. IT IS. WHAT IS IT? IT'S PLASMA. DON'T KNOW.

NOT SCIENTIFIC. IT'S EXPLORATION INTO THE COSMOS IMPLIES A UNIVERSE WITH A VARIETY OF STAR CLUSTERS AND GALAXIES.

THEIR EXPRESSIONS ARE INTENDED TO GIVE A SENSE OF MOVEMENT IN TIME AND SPACE.

PLASMA IS A STATE OF MATTER ALONG WITH SOLIDS, LIQUIDS, AND GASES.

ABOVE THE TREE. DO WE HAVE THAT ONE? YES WE DO.

YES. ISN'T THERE ALREADY? YEP. SO ART WILL NOT APPEAL TO EVERYBODY AS WE DRIVE.

IT IS SOMETHING TO EACH OUR OWN. BUT AT LEAST WE'VE GOT 12 PIECES FOR YOU AND MADAM MAYOR JUST IN CASE.

SOME OF THEM ARE LEFT EMPTY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO COME BACK.

DO YOU WANT US TO COME BACK? AND FOR THE 1 OR 2 THAT MIGHT BE MISSING, OR SHOULD GEORGE USE HIS BEST JUDGMENT? SORRY. APOLOGIES. TAMARA. I KNOW EVERYTHING SHOWS ON MY FACE.

PERSONALLY, I WOULD LEAVE IT BLANK. FOR THIS TO SEE WHAT GEORGE DO NO, BECAUSE IT COMES OUT OF THIS AND WE CAN'T GET CONSENSUS ON WHAT'S ON HERE. SO. BUT IF YOU WANT HIM TO USE HIS BEST JUDGMENT.

DO NOT TAKE THAT PERSONALLY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

WE JUST KNOW YOU'RE CREATIVE. LET'S JUST LEAVE IT BLANK AND DEAL WITH IT AS WE DEAL WITH IT, IF WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT. WE'VE HAD EMPTY SPACES THERE BEFORE, AND SO JUST ON HOW YOU PLACE IT, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, IT WILL FILL THE SPACES THAT THE MOST IMPACT IF WE HAVE TO LEAVE.

BUT USUALLY THE PAD WITH THREE GETS ON EACH SIDE IS ONE THAT GETS MISSING.

YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TREES THAT COVERS ONE IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING, MAYBE THAT WILL WORK, BUT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.

OKAY. WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU? WE GOT CONSENSUS.

YOU GOT IT ALL DOWN. WE KNOW THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH OTHER THINGS.

WE'RE ALL DONE WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE OUR COMMITTEE.

AND THOUGH SOMETIMES THEY THINK WE PROBABLY DON'T ENJOY IT SECRETLY THAT'S WHY WE USUALLY IT USUALLY IS.

WHICH IS WHY I SAID THAT WE WERE ABSOLUTELY OUT OF OUR MINDS TO PUT THIS ON A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING, BECAUSE WE'D BE THERE FOR DAYS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE ARE MOVING TO OUR LAST ITEM AT 242.

[1.f. Discussion on the Rescheduling or Cancellation of the March 25, 2026, Meeting. Requested by City Manager, Levent Sucuoglu]

THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE CITY MANAGER. MR. CITY MANAGER, PLEASE GO FORTH AND STATE YOUR BUSINESS.

MR. MAYOR IF I MAY CAN WE CANCEL THIS MEETING AT THE END OF MARCH? DUE TO A NUMBER OF CONFLICTS WE MAY HAVE. OKAY.

SO CITY COMMISSION. VICE MAYOR. YES. NO. CANCELLATION OF THE MARCH 25TH COMMISSION MEETING.

[04:00:09]

OKAY. IS IT LIKE, DO WE HAVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE WE WE DON'T HAVE A BIG AGENDA. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE THE COMMISSION AGENDAS WE DON'T HAVE A MAJOR ITEM SCHEDULED FOR THAT DAY. SO TAMARAC IS GETTING BORING.

WE NEED TO SPICE IT UP WITH US. COME ON. I MEAN, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS TO DISCUSS, THEN I DON'T SEE THE REASON TO COME. YEAH, I THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MEETING IN APRIL. IS THAT THE MEETING ON BY ORDINANCE WHERE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T CANCEL FIRST MEETING.

WE CAN NEVER CANCEL. WE JUST CAN'T CHANGE IT.

OKAY? AND IT NEEDS TO BE THREE DAYS BEFORE. THREE DAYS AFTER.

OKAY. BUT THE SECOND ONE IS IS OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

COMMISSIONER. DANIEL. I. SEE? NO. SPEAKING FROM THE AUDIENCE.

JUST TALK TO THE MANAGER. YOU GO THROUGH HIM LATER. YEAH, EXACTLY.

HAVE THAT, HAVE THAT. YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS BY THIS COMMISSION TO CANCEL THE MARCH 25TH COMMISSION MEETING IS THE 930 MEETING.

THE SECOND MEETING OF MARCH WILL BE CANCELED. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 244.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ATTENTION.

WE WILL SEE YOU 930 ON WEDNESDAY MORNING IN COMMISSION CHAMBERS.

THANK YOU. WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.