[00:00:02] >> GENTLEMEN, WELCOME BACK TO OUR WEDNESDAY, [CALL TO ORDER] SEPTEMBER 24, 2025 COMMISSION MEETING. IT IS NOW 7:26. WE'VE ALREADY DONE ROLL CALL. WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG THROUGH THIS AGENDA. FORGIVE US THIS ONE BIG THING. WE'VE ALREADY ALSO DONE OUR PLEDGE. VICE MAYOR, WILL GET YOU NEXT TIME. [1.CITY ATTORNEY REPORT] CITY ATTORNEY, YOU HAVE A REPORT? >> JUST A BRIEF REPORT, MAYOR. FEDERAL LOBBYIST BECKER & POLIAKOFF, INTRODUCED ME TO A NEW YORK LAW FIRM WHO BASICALLY HAS ACCESS CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT. LANE TO PVC PIPE, MANUFACTURES COLLUSION AND SELLING PIPES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE PARTIES. THERE'S A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT THAT THE CITY CAN PARTICIPATE. EVENTUALLY, OBVIOUSLY HAVE OPPORTUNITY. WE GET A REWARD OF ECONOMIC DAMAGES WITHOUT ANY COSTS TO THE CITY. BASICALLY, I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION FOR CONSENT TO PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT. >> YOU NEED CONSENT, NOT A MOTION, CORRECT? THIS ITEM IS FRESH TO US, BUT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. DO YOU CONSENT TO? >> YES. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR DANIEL? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLTON? >> YES. >> YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS OF THE WHOLE. THANK YOU. COMMISSION, WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE WELL. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LOOK AT US FROM THE NAVAL UP, PLEASE. WE'RE FIRST GOING TO GO TO A PRESENTATION OF A CHARITABLE DONATION TO DARE. [2.CITY MANAGER REPORT] THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER KRYSTAL PATTERSON. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IF I CAN CALL MRS. HILL. YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT, MRS. HILL, IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT A DONATION OF $1,500 TO SUPPORT THE IMPACTFUL WORK OF DARE TO CARE IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOUR MISSION OF PROVIDING ACCESS TO RESOURCES THAT MEET THE PHYSICAL, SOCIAL, AND SPIRITUAL NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, WHILE PRESERVING DIGNITY AND AFFIRMING SELF-WORTH IS TRULY INSPIRING. YOUR WEEKLY GROCERY DISTRIBUTION SERVING MORE THAN 400 FAMILIES AND THE ANNUAL THANKSGIVING FOOD DRIVE, WHICH PROVIDES HOLIDAY MEALS FOR OVER 2,500 RESIDENTS ARE CRITICAL EFFORTS IN ADDRESSING FOOD INSECURITY HERE IN BROWARD COUNTY. I COMMEND YOUR DEDICATION TO ENSURING THAT RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO NUTRITIOUS FOOD AND COMPASSIONATE SUPPORT. YOUR ONGOING PARTNERSHIPS WITH FARM SHARE, FEEDING SOUTH FLORIDA, AND GATEWAY HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF COLLABORATION AND SERVING OUR NEIGHBORS. THIS CONTRIBUTION REFLECTS MY SUPPORT AND GRATITUDE FOR THE TIRELESS WORK YOU DO. I AM CONFIDENT IT WILL ASSIST IN FURTHERING YOUR EFFORTS TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THE FAMILIES YOU SERVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO BUILDING A STRONGER, HEALTHIER COMMUNITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE ONGOING IMPACT OF DARE TO CARE AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO JOIN IN SUPPORTING YOUR MISSION THROUGH VOLUNTEERING, DONATING, AND SPREADING THE WORD. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MY PLEASURE. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AND GUESTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. DARE TO CARE STARTED IN 2004, AND WE DO SERVE FOUR TO 500 FAMILIES EACH WEEK AT OUR DARE TO CARE SITE. WE RELY ON VOLUNTEERS. I ENCOURAGE ANY OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT ON SATURDAYS AND VOLUNTEER. WE WELCOME YOU. WE SERVE RESIDENTS FROM ALL OF BROWARD COUNTY. WE WILL HAVE A THANKSGIVING FOOD DRIVE AT THE FAITH CENTER. WE PARTNER WITH THEM ON NOVEMBER 22ND, AND WE SERVE ABOUT 2000, [00:05:01] OVER 2500 FAMILIES EACH YEAR. THAT'S FOR DONATIONS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME OUT, SHARE THE WORD WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND FAMILY MEMBERS, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR THIS HONOR. FOR THE DONATION, IT WILL HELP OUR FOOD DRIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND] >> ALL RIGHT. THIS NEXT PROCLAMATION WAS REQUESTED BY OUR CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER JAMES. WHEREAS THE CITY OF TAMARAC RECOGNIZES THAT IT HAS A VITAL ROLE IN IDENTIFYING, PROTECTING, AND RESPONDING TO CYBER THREATS THAT MAY HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO OUR INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE SECURITY AND PRIVACY, AND WHEREAS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SECTORS ARE INCREASINGLY RELIANT ON INFORMATION SYSTEMS TO SUPPORT FINANCIAL SERVICES, ENERGY, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, TRANSPORTATION, UTILITIES, HEALTHCARE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE SYSTEMS. WHEREAS SECURE OUR WORLD CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS A NATIONAL PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN, WHICH DEMONSTRATES THAT WHILE CYBERSECURITY MAY SEEM LIKE A COMPLEX SUBJECT, ULTIMATELY, IT REALLY IS ALL ABOUT PEOPLE. WHEREAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, THE MULTI-STATE INFORMATION SHARING ANALYSIS CENTER, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF STATE CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICERS, AND THE NATIONAL CYBER SECURITY ALLIANCE HAVE DECLARED OCTOBER AS NATIONAL CYBER SECURITY AWARENESS MONTH. ALL CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO TAKE BASIC STEPS TO PROTECT YOUR ONLINE INFORMATION AND PRIVACY AND TO MAKE SMART CYBERSECURITY DECISIONS, WHETHER ON THE JOB AT HOME OR AT SCHOOL, NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. NOW, THEREFORE, I'M MICHELLE J. GOMEZ, VERY PROUD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ALONG WITH OUR COMMISSION DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2025 AS CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS MONTH AT THE CITY OF TAMARAC, AND WE ARE OFFICIALLY SUPPORTING NATIONAL CYBER SECURITY AWARENESS MONTH AND THE NATIONAL PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN SECURE OUR WORLD. JIM SAY A FEW WORDS. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR COMMISSION. FOR OVER 20 YEARS, OCTOBER HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS CYBERSECURITY AWARENESS MONTH. IT'S OUR GOAL AS ALWAYS JUST TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE CAUSE. CYBERSECURITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THERE'S A FEW SIMPLE THINGS THAT EVERYONE CAN DO. USE STRONG PASSWORDS. USE MOTIFED AUTHENTICATION, INSTALL ANTIVIRUS, AFTER YOUR SOFTWARE. THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, OCTOBER, I BELIEVE OUR CITY IS GOING TO BE ALSO POSTING A FEW ITEMS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS FAR AS RECOMMENDATIONS, SUGGESTIONS TO TRY TO BE SAFE AT HOME WHEN YOU'RE ONLINE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM. WE DO GET EMAILS THAT TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE KNOW THAT WE'RE BEING PHISHED OR NOT. WE APPRECIATE IT [BACKGROUND] MY ENGLISH IS NOT SO GOOD TODAY. THAT'S WHERE IT IS. YEAH, GRAMMAR POLICE, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. THE NEXT ONE IS REQUESTED BY A HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR DANIELLE DURGAN. THIS IS FOR HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONAL DAY PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF TAMARAC RECOGNIZES THE CITY'S HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONALS FOR THEIR IMPORTANT WORK THAT THEY DO, WHO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE CITY AND WHO PROVIDE EXCELLENCE ALWAYS IN CUSTOMER SERVICE TO EMPLOYEES, RESIDENTS, VENDORS, AND CONTRACTORS. WHEREAS HR PROFESSIONALS HELP EMPLOYEES ADAPT TO AN EVER CHANGING AND COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT WHILE RESPONDING TO WORKPLACE NEEDS AND ECONOMIC CHALLENGES. WHEREAS THESE PROFESSIONALS DESIGN COMPREHENSIVE AND COMPETITIVE BENEFIT PROGRAMS, WHICH INCLUDES ADMINISTERING PENSION PLANS, LEAVE POLICIES, WELLNESS PROGRAMS, AND INSURANCE POLICIES. WHEREAS THESE PROFESSIONALS WORK AGGRESSIVELY TO RECRUIT, ONBOARD, AND RETAIN TOP TALENT WHO MEET THE SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE OF A POSITION, AND WHO ALSO ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S CULTURE AND VALUES. WHERE AS THESE PROFESSIONALS RECOGNIZE [00:10:01] OUR OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEE ACHIEVEMENTS AND ENCOURAGE THE PROFESSIONAL DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYEES BY DESIGNING TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT EMPOWER AND DRIVE INCREASED PERFORMANCE, AND WHEREAS THE HUMAN RESOURCES RISK MANAGEMENT PROFESSIONALS IDENTIFY POTENTIAL RISKS BY IMPLEMENTING PROCEDURES TO PROACTIVELY PREVENT INCIDENTS FROM OCCURRING, AS WELL AS PROVIDING TRAINING RESOURCES TO TEACH EMPLOYEES TO CONDUCT THEIR WORK SAFELY. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF TAMARAC, HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONALS LIVE THEIR MISSION DAILY BY ENHANCING ORGANIZATIONAL DECISIONS THAT DEPEND ON AND IMPACT PEOPLE BY THEIR TEAMWORK, PROFESSIONALISM, INTEGRITY, INNOVATION, AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WHEREAS, HR PROFESSIONAL DAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW APPRECIATION FOR HUMAN RESOURCES PROFESSIONALS AND THE VALUABLE WORK THAT THEY DO EVERY DAY. NOW, I, THEREFORE, MICHELLE J. GOMEZ, VERY PROUD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMISSION, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2025, AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO JOIN THE CITY OF TAMARAC IN RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING HR PROFESSIONALS FOR THEIR DEDICATION, LEADERSHIP, AND INVALUABLE ROLE IN HELPING TO SHAPE THE NEW FUTURE. THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR PROFESSIONALS AND OUR HR DIRECTOR. [APPLAUSE] >> COMMISSIONER NIKE MAYOR. SO TODAY, WE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF FUN. WE HAD LUNCH TODAY JUST THANKING MY HR PROFESSIONALS IN THIS ORGANIZATION. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK, AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THIS EVERY YEAR. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. YOU AND THE TEAM DEFINITELY DO A GREAT JOB BECAUSE WE HAVE WONDERFUL EMPLOYEES HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC, SO WE THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THIS PROCLAMATION WAS REQUESTED BY MYSELF, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE HAVE ANDRES. I'M SCRIPTS. I'LL JUST LET YOU SAY YOUR LAST NAME WHEN YOU GET. MENJORES. SHE WROTE IT TOO NICE. I CAN'T READ. IT'S OKAY. HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF OUR HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. [BACKGROUND] YOU'RE STILL VERY INVOLVED. I SEE YOU AT THE MEETINGS. VERY PAST PRESIDENT IS NOT. WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES IS A NATION WOVEN WITH THE THREADS OF DIVERSE HISTORIES, CULTURES, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF IMMIGRANTS FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD, EACH UNIQUELY SHAPING THE CHARACTER OF AMERICA, AND WHEREAS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS OBSERVED ANNUALLY FROM SEPTEMBER 15 TO OCTOBER 15, CELEBRATING THE HISTORIES, CULTURES, AND MYRIAD OF CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WHOSE ANCESTORS CAME FROM SPAIN, MEXICO, THE CARIBBEAN, CENTRAL AMERICA, AND SOUTH AMERICA. WHEREAS THIS NATIONAL CELEBRATION BEGAN IN 1968 AT HISPANIC HERITAGE WEEK UNDER PRESIDENT LINTON JOHNSON, AND WAS EXPANDED IN 1988 BY PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN TO ENCOMPASS A FULL MONTH BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 15, A DATE THAT COINCIDES WITH THE INDEPENDENCE ANNIVERSARIES OF COSTA RICA, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, NICARAGUA, FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY MEXICO AND CHILE. WHEREAS THE CITY OF TAMARAC IS HOME TO A VIBRANT AND GROWING HISPANIC COMMUNITY THAT REPRESENTS A WIDE ARRAY OF NATIONALITIES AND CULTURES, CONTRIBUTING SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE RICHNESS, DIVERSITY, AND VITALITY OF OUR CITY. WHEREAS HISPANIC HERITAGE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, FOUNDED ON JULY 31, 2017, HAS BEEN A VITAL FORCE FOR ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, AND CULTURAL PRIDE ACROSS BROWARD AND PALM BEACH COUNTIES, ADVANCING ITS MISSION TO EMPOWER AND ELEVATE HISPANIC ENTREPRENEURS AND BUSINESS OWNERS THROUGH CONNECTION, ADVOCACY, AND COLLABORATION. WHEREAS THE HISPANIC HERITAGE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS PROVIDED VITAL RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES TO HISPANIC BUSINESSES, BUSINESS OWNERS, SUPPORTING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THROUGH TRAINING, NETWORKING, STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS, AND ADVOCACY, THEREBY ENRICHING BOTH THE CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC LANDSCAPE OF SOUTH FLORIDA. WHEREAS THE HISPANIC HERITAGE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EXEMPLIFIES THE ASPIRATIONS OF LEADERSHIP AND ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, PROMOTING INCLUSIVITY, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, AND EMPOWERMENT WHILE STRENGTHENING THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC FABRIC OF OUR NATION, OUR REGION. OUR NATION TOO. NOW, I, THEREFORE, MICHELLE J. GOMEZ, VERY PROUD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, DO HEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO LEARN ABOUT AND CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS, CULTURE, AND ECONOMIC IMPACT OF HISPANIC AMERICANS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND PROCLAIM THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 15 TO OCTOBER 15, 2025 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] [00:15:03] >> OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK GOD FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THIS AMAZING WORK. THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC. GREAT PARTNERS, ALWAYS OPEN DOORS TO ADVANCE OUR MISSION TO NOT ONLY HELP THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, BUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. WE'RE VERY PROUD THAT WE'VE TOUCHED THOUSANDS OF ENTREPRENEURS, BUSINESS OWNERS, WITHIN BROWARD COUNTY AND PALM BEACH. I REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET INVOLVED. YOU GUYS HAVE A LOCAL CHAMBER AS WELL. BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE ALLIES TO ANY MISSION THAT FURTHERS AND EXPANDS THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THIS AMAZING COUNTRY TO CONTINUE TO GROW OUR IN BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS. >> THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE. >> THANK YOU FOR ALL WHAT YOU DO. >> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] [BACKGROUND] >> THAT'S IT. >> CITY MANAGER, YOUR REPORT? >> YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. TAMARAC IS LAUNCHING THE TAMARAC BE KIND CAMPAIGN, FOLLOWING THE CITY'S RESOLUTION ON ANTI-BULLYING AND ANTI-HATE. THIS CAMPAIGN BEGINS THIS WEEK WITH PEACE WEEK OBSERVANCES, AND ON OCTOBER 1ST, RESIDENTS WILL SEE A TAMAGRAM FEATURE IN CITYWIDE PRESS RELEASE. THE OFFICIAL LOUNGE WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE OCTOBER 8 COMMISSION MEETING WITH A PROCLAMATION AND DISTRIBUTION OF CAMPAIGN MATERIALS. PLEASE ALSO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR ADDITIONAL INITIATIVES IN THE MONTHS AHEAD. OCTOBER IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, A TIME TO UNITE IN SUPPORT OF SURVIVORS, RAISE AWARENESS, AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMITMENT TO PREVENTION. AS PART OF THIS EFFORT, BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL HOST A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SUMMIT ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 4TH, FROM 9:30 AM TO 11:30 AM AT THE TAMARA COMMUNITY CENTER. ALL RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND THIS IMPORTANT EVENT TO LEARN, CONNECT, AND STAND TOGETHER AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. WE HAVE A GARAGE SALE. WE HAVE HALLOWEEN HOOPLA. WE HAVE GREAT PUMPKIN SPLASH, FOOD TRUCK FRIDAYS EVERY SECOND AND FOURTH FRIDAY. FOR A COMPLETE LIST OF TAMARAC EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES, PLEASE DO VISIT OUR WEBSITE. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MADAM MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. [3.PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ] THE RULES OF THE ROAD ARE ABOVE AS A REMINDER FOR SOME. IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH WHAT SOMEBODY SAYS, WE DO THIS. IF WE'RE NOT SO HAPPY, WE DO THIS. WE TRY TO NOT BE VOCAL ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO INTIMIDATE ANYBODY AND MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY IS NOT IMPORTANT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. WE DON'T SHARE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, AND YOUR ADDRESS. IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE STATE THE CITY WHERE YOU LIVE, OR THE COUNTY AT LEAST. I WILL SHARE THAT I AM MISSING ONE PIECE OF PAPER. I DO APOLOGIZE. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE ACCIDENTALLY WALKED THAT BACK TO MY OFFICE WITH THE BUDGET BOOK. I'M JUST GOING TO GO WITH THE NAMES I HAVE NOW AND THEN ASK ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO DO SO. I HAVE RON WASSERMAN. THIS IS FOR ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. [00:20:14] >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS RONALD J WASSERMAN. I LIVE AT 8577 J DRIVE HERE IN TAMARAC. I NORMALLY COME TO SPEAK WITH YOU WHEN I HAVE COMPLAINTS AND THINGS ARE NOT RIGHT, BUT TONIGHT, I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT CANCER TONIGHT. CANCER HAS TO BE THE DEVIL WORKING ON THIS EARTH. FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR CANCER CONTRIBUTIONS, YOUR INTEREST. MADAM PATTERSON, THANK YOU FOR THE MAMMOGRAMS. VERY IMPORTANT. I'M A COLON CANCER SURVIVOR AND I'M PROUD TO BE ALIVE. I'M SO GRATEFUL TO BE ALIVE. TONIGHT, WE SPEAK ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANCER. THERE ARE 180 DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANCER, MAYBE 200. MY BROTHER DIED OF A VERY RARE EYE CANCER. I'VE BEEN REMISSED. THE LAST TIME I'VE SPOKEN, MY VOICE GOT LOUD AND I HAD SOMETHING IMPORTANT ON MY MIND. I NEVER HAVE REMARKS PUT TOGETHER, BUT TONIGHT, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS. LAST FRIDAY, I HAD A MEETING WITH OUR NEW CAPTAIN CAPTAIN BANKS. CAPTAIN, I WISH YOU ALL THE LUCK. YOU LOOKED AT ME STRAIGHT IN THE EYE. VERY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW WHO I'M SPEAKING OF WHO WANT TO LOOK THROUGH PEOPLE. FORGET ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, MADAM DANIEL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP. MARLIN, I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR YEARS. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE IN THE BACK. SOMETIMES YOU'VE HELPED ME, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE NOT. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON ANOTHER ISSUE. BUT TONIGHT, I JUST LOOK AT ALL OF YOU BEHIND ME HERE, THERE, PLEASE GET TESTED. I'M ALSO A HEART SURVIVOR. I'VE GOT A DEFIBRILLATOR AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER GOOD STUFF. THIS IS NOT ABOUT MY PERSONAL HEALTH, BUT ASKING YOU BEHIND ME, BE TESTED. DON'T LEAVE IT UP TO THE FAMILY TO SAY, WE COULD HAVE HELPED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING. >> THANK YOU. THE OTHER PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP IS FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? I'VE GOT CAROL MENDELSON, AND THEN I'VE GOT MARK GOGGIN. >> CAROL MENDELSON, WOODMONT. I'VE PURPOSELY BEEN SILENT FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, CHOOSING TO SIT AND OBSERVE PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS, REGARDLESS OF THE DYSFUNCTIONAL BEHAVIOR. EVERY TIME I HAVE SPOKEN, IT HAS FALLEN ON DEAF EARS. WELL, NOT ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. ONCE AGAIN, FOR THESE THREE MINUTES, YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR PHONES, MUMBLE TO EACH OTHER, ROLL YOUR EYES AND ATTACK ME WHEN YOU SPEAK. I HAVE NUMEROUS ASKS THAT I HOPE YOU TAKE THE TIME TO REFLECT ON. I ASK THAT YOU REMEMBER YOU ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS. I ASK THAT YOU BEHAVE IN THE CAPACITY BEFITTING THE TITLE YOU HOLD. I ASK THAT YOU REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE TRUSTED YOU WHEN THEY ELECTED YOU TO REPRESENT THEM. I ASK THAT YOU PUT YOUR EGOS ASIDE FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY. I ASK THAT YOU STOP DISPARAGING CONSTITUENTS FROM THE DAIS AND THINKING IT'S OKAY. I ASK THAT YOU STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN, EMBARRASSING YOURSELVES AND US. I ASK THAT YOU VOTE OBJECTIVELY AND NOT REJECT CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE KATE JOHNSON'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE TRUTH SHE SPEAKS. I ASK THAT YOU STOP GIVING GIFT CARDS WHEN IT IS OUR MONEY YOU'RE HANDING OUT AS A GIFT AND AWARDING YOURSELVES PERKS. I ASK THAT IF CHANGE IS WARRANTED, AND I BELIEVE IT IS, THAT IT BE DONE COLLABORATIVELY WITHOUT VIOLATING SUNSHINE LAW. [00:25:02] I ASK THAT YOU NOT PUBLICLY FLOGGED STAFF, DOING ONLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR YEARS. I ASK THAT YOU REMEMBER THE CLICHE DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU. THE TREATMENT OF A STAFF MEMBER AT A PREVIOUS MEETING WAS UNDESERVED AND UNBECOMING YOUR ROLES. I ASK THAT YOU STOP THE INFIGHTING AND RUDE AND DISRESPECTFUL REMARKS TO ONE ANOTHER. I ASK THAT YOU NOT EMBARRASS YOURSELVES, VIDEOTAPING CONSTITUENTS AND YELLING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEND IT TO THEIR WORK SITE TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE NOT AT WORK. SOME OF US HAVE THE WORK ETHIC AND INTEGRITY AND WOULD NEVER DO THAT. I ASK THAT YOU CASE EMBARRASSING YOURSELVES AND OUR CITY, AS OTHER CITIES SAY, AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT TAMARAC, WE'RE OKAY. HAVE WE NOT LOST ENOUGH GOOD STAFF? PEOPLE DON'T LEAVE BECAUSE OF THE WORK. THEY LEAVE BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE CULTURE. WE HAVE LOST MANY GREAT EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THE CULTURE IS TOXIC. THERE ARE THREE SEATS IN COMING UP IN THE NEXT ELECTION. RESIDENTS OF THE CITY NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE VOTED INTO THOSE SEATS. IT TAKES A VILLAGE. EVERY VOTE BY THE COMMISSION IMPACTS THE ENTIRE CITY REGARDLESS OF THE DISTRICT IN WHICH ONE LIVES. REMEMBER, YOU WORK FOR US. BEHAVE IN THE MANNER EXPECTED OF THE ROLE YOU HOLD. RESIDENTS, IT'S TIME TO TAKE BACK OUR CITY. >> THANK YOU. MARK GOGGIN COMING UP. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, THEN MARK WILL BE OUR LAST PARTICIPANT. >> THANK YOU. MARK GOGGIN, TAMARAC LAKE SOUTH ON THE EAST END. JUST A QUESTION. AS I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN ON AND OFF AND ON REGARDING THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE EAST AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S AREA. THEY STILL GET FORT LAUDERDALE WATER AND NOT TAMARAC. WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE'RE GOING TO GET TAMARAC WATER. PEOPLE ARE ASKING WHEN, WHEN AND WHEN, ESPECIALLY SINCE TWO WEEKS AGO, WE TURNED ON OUR FAUCETS AND GOT YELLOW WATER FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE FORT LAUDERDALE AND DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS, THEY CALL IT, OVER AT PROSPECT ROAD IN 31ST, WITH THAT WATER PLANT EXTENSION, THEY PUT SOME STUFF IN THE WATER, SO WE WERE GETTING YELLOW WATER. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORRIED IS IT GOING TO MAKE THEM SICK, HAVE TO GO OUT BY BOTTLED WATER. WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING FROM OUR CITY ON THE NOTICE THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING AND BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION AGAIN, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET THE WATER PIPES CHANGED THAT WE WERE PROMISED TO GET CITY OF TAMARAC WATER AND NOT FORT LAUDERDALE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? >> MADAM MAYOR, THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND THE WORK IS IN THE PERMITTING PHASE WITH FTA, BUT IT'S GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO GOING OUT FOR BIDS. IT'S GOOD NEWS. >> YES, IT IS. VERY MUCH SO. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS NOW CLOSED. WE WILL GO TO COMMISSION REPORTS. [4.COMMISSION REPORTS ] COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 1, COMMISSIONER BOLTON. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN SEEING THE TAMARAC FOR THE CURE EVENT THAT IS COMING UP ON OCTOBER 11. I'M JUST BLOWN AWAY WITH THE LEVEL OF SUPPORT THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WITH THE SIGN UPS AND PEOPLE CALLING US TO BE A PART OF THE EVENT. I'M VERY MUCH SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL EVENT. IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE EVENT, PLEASE GO TO TAMARAC.GOV/CURE. IT WILL BE A 5K RUN/WALK AT THE TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX. REGISTRATION STARTS AT 6:00 AM THAT MORNING, AND THE FIRST RACE IS AT 8:00 AM. WE DO HAVE OLYMPIC AND WORLD CHAMPION YOHAN BLAKE COMING TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC TO LEAD OUT THE RACES. IT'S GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. THROUGH THE MANAGER, I'D LOVE TO INVITE ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC TO COME AND RUN FOR FREE. I MIGHT WANT TO MENTION THAT REIGNING MISS JAMAICA UNIVERSE, DR. GABRIELLE HENRY WILL ALSO BE THERE FOR PHOTO OPS AND AUTOGRAPHS, [00:30:01] AND KIDS ARE JUST LOVING IT BECAUSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE PICTURES WITH HER, AND SHE'LL BE AT THE EVENT AS WELL. COUPLE OF OTHER CELEBRITIES ARE GOING TO BE THERE. I DON'T WANT TO SPOIL THE NEWS ALERT THAT'S GOING OUT, BUT WE HAVE SEVEN INTERNATIONAL CELEBRITIES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CELEBRITIES THAT EVEN HAVE 11.5 MILLION FOLLOWERS. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU STAY TUNED FOR THAT EVENT. I WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF THE HISPANIC AWARENESS MONTH CELEBRATION THAT THE CITY HAD THE OTHER DAY, ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. THANK YOU, SO VERY MUCH, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND, OF COURSE, OUR PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT, ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE A PART OF THAT EVENT. WONDERFUL JOB. WELL ATTENDED, WELL PUT TOGETHER. AS AN EVENT PLANNER MYSELF, I WAS BLOWN AWAY WITH THE LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM THAT I SAW THERE. KUDOS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THE NEXT MEETING, I'LL BE ASKING FOR AN AWARD TO BE PRESENTED TO HER. HER NAME IS SIMI PRETTOM. ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS, JACKIE VERNON THOMPSON, WHO HAPPENS TO LIVE IN LIVE IN DISTRICT 2 WITH PRETTY MUCH THREE MILLION FOLLOWERS ACROSS HER PLATFORM, TOOK THE TIME OUT TO CALL ME TODAY TO JUST GIVE A KUDOS FOR SIMI PRETTOM, THAT SHE CALLED ABOUT A CONCERN THAT THE RESIDENT HAD WITH THE INCREASE IN WATER USAGE. ALTHOUGH THIS IS THE JOB OF SIMI TO DO THAT, I'M SURE THE RESIDENT FELT THAT SIMI WAS VERY GENUINE IN HER APPROACH. THEY TALKED ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND HOW SHE COULD REDUCE HER WATER BILL AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. THE TIME IT TOOK SIMI TO MAKE THAT PHONE CALL WAS JUST WARM AND APPRECIATED. SIMI, WHEREVER YOU ARE, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. KUDOS, AND PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT SHE'S HERE AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEET, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MORNING, SO VERY TIMELY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HER. FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT INFIGHTINGS, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE INFIGHTINGS. AS A MATTER OF FACT OUR TAMARAC FOR THE CURE EVENT. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPONSORING THE EVENT. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND VICE MAYOR, DANIEL, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR SUPPORTING THE EVENT. FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT THINK THAT I'M NOT INCLUDING THE MAYOR, THAT'S NOT TRUE. WE HAD A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION IN OUR OFFICE. SHE WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THE EVENT, BUT SHE'S OTHERWISE CONFLICTED THAT MORNING. TO SOME PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT WE ARE CHILDREN, WELL, DO NOT ASK THE CHILDREN FOR ENDORSEMENT WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING FOR YOUR ELECTION. STOP IT. >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT DISTRICT 2. >> WE HAVE MY REPORT, MADAM MAYOR. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, DISTRICT 3. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF. WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETING AT SPRING LAKE NORTH LAST WEEK. I WANT TO, JUST ACKNOWLEDGE, FIRST OF ALL, THE COMMUNITY FOR A REACHING OUT TO MY OFFICE, RAISING ATTENTION AND AWARENESS TO THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY. BUT SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO ORGANIZE A VERY WELL ATTENDED COMMUNITY MEETING. I JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, THANK THE STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY. I THINK, IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING THE CITY OR BRING THE GOVERNMENT TO THE PEOPLE. CONTRARY TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT HEAR AT THE PODIUM, WE ARE PRETTY COMMITTED, AND WE'RE WORKING PRETTY HARD. ON SOME LEVEL DEFUNCT, JUST REDIRECT THE NARRATIVE, IF THAT'S EVEN NECESSARY. IT PROBABLY NOT EVEN NECESSARY TO ADDRESS, BUT EITHER WHICH WAY OR THE OTHER. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF THE MAMMOGRAM EVENT THAT I HAVE ON OCTOBER 27. [00:35:02] AT THIS POINT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE CAN TAKE ANY MORE PEOPLE. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT ENGAGED OUR OFFICE AND SIGNED UP TO GET THEIR FREE MAMMOGRAMS ON OCTOBER 27. WHILE I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE QUITE SOLD OUT OR BOOKED, I WOULD STILL ENCOURAGE THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE INTERESTED WHO MAYBE HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT THE EVENT THAT ON OCTOBER 27, AT THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER, WE WILL BE PARTNERING WITH THE CHRISTINE E. LYNN WELLNESS CENTER TO BRING FREE MAMMOGRAMS TO TAMARAC RESIDENTS. YOU CAN CALL 954-597-3472 TO GET SIGNED UP IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO YET, AND YOU'RE INTERESTED. LASTLY, I DO WANT TO ECHO THE MAYOR AND HER PROCLAMATION AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON IN WISHING OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY A VERY HAPPY HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. SEVERAL THINGS COMING UP. THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SHOWED UP TO OUR LINE DANCING ON THURSDAY, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS CANCELED. WE STILL HAD 20 PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN SPITE OF THE RAIN, AND WE WENT AHEAD AND DID IT ANYWAY. IT WAS AWESOME. IT WAS GOOD EXERCISE. IT GOT ALIGNS WITH WHAT RON WAS SAYING ABOUT TAKING CARE OF OUR HEALTH, OUR HEARTS. GOD FORBID, IF ANY OF US EVER HAVE CANCER, I WILL GET TESTED RUN, BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID. BUT PLEASE COME OUT. OUR NEXT LINE DANCE WILL BE THE SECOND OF OCTOBER AT 6:30. THIS TIME WE HAVE IT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. COME RAIN OR SHINE, WE WILL HAVE IT. COME OUT AND HAVE SOME FUN. YOU'D BE SURPRISED. EVEN IF YOU LOOK STUPID, IT DOESN'T MATTER. [LAUGHTER] I LOOK THE WORSE. BUT I DID LEARN TWO STEPS. I'M GOING TO PRACTICE ON YOUTUBE AND SHOW EVERYBODY NEXT TIME TO SAY THAT I CAN DANCE FOR AT LEAST FIVE MINUTES, GOOD. ANOTHER EVENT I HAVE COMING UP IS CALLED LITTLE VOICES. WE'LL HAVE A LICENSED SPEECH PATHOLOGISTS WHO WILL HELP FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY, SUPPORT THEIR KIDS IN COMMUNICATION AND DEVELOPMENT. IN THIS AGE, WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY GAMES, OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY DON'T COMMUNICATE A LOT. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER AVENUE TO TEACH THEM HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER, HOW TO DEVELOP SOCIAL SKILLS. COME OUT. IT'S FREE. TRUST ME, IF YOU HAD TO PAY FOR THIS, IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. IF YOU HAVE YOUNG ONES, YOU SEE THEY'RE JUST ALWAYS ON THE GAME. OR YOU HAVE A BABY WHO'S TWO, AND THEY'RE NOT YET TALKING, COME OUT. SPEAK TO A SPEECH PATHOLOGIST, LEARN SOME STRATEGIES AND HOW TO GET OUR YOUNG KIDS TO SOCIALIZE BETTER AND TO COMMUNICATE BETTER. ON OCTOBER 11, MISS UNIVERSE WILL ALSO BE AT OUR EVENT. IT'S CALLED POURING INTO PURPOSE, WHERE WE CELEBRATE WOMEN AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS. HER NAME IS DR. HENRY, I BELIEVE. COME OUT, MET MISS UNIVERSE. SHE'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL AND SMART. SOMEBODY CALL US PRETTY DANCE ONE DAY, BUT THIS LADY IS ACTUALLY EXTREMELY SMART AND PRETTY. JUST COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AND ENJOY SOME TIME WITH US. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I WILL BE MISSING ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR LINE DANCES BECAUSE I'LL BE BREAKING THE FASTS OF YOM KIPPUR THAT NIGHT. [BACKGROUND] I GOT ANOTHER ONE, BUT THAT'S A MOST HOLY NIGHT FOR ME, SO I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE THERE. I'LL JUST GO AND REVERSE. WISHING EVERYBODY WHO'S CELEBRATING YOM KIPPUR A VERY GOOD [FOREIGN], BASICALLY, WISHING YOU INSCRIBED IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, AND IF YOU'RE FASTING LIKE I AM, MAY YOU HAVE AN EASY FAST? OCTOBER 7 WILL BE MARKING TWO YEARS SINCE THE AWFUL ATTACKS AND KILLING OF PEOPLE IN ISRAEL, AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT EVERYBODY IS HOME YET. AFFORDABLE HOUSING REPORT. THE COUNTY WILL BE RECEIVING THE REPORT THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE THAT I'M THE CHAIR OF HAS PUT FORTH AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL APPROVE IT. IT WAS WONDERFUL TO GO TO HCA WOODMONT, OUR CATH LAB IS BRINGING BACK THE STATE OF THE ART MEDICAL PROCEDURES TO OUR CITY. I'M VERY GLAD THAT THEY DECIDED TO COME BACK HERE AND THE DOCTORS ARE PHENOMENAL. I WANT TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AT THIS POINT, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH SAYING TO THE STAFF, I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I MISSPOKE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT AT THE SCHOOL EXPO, THERE WAS CONFUSION ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ONE TABLE PER EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION OR IF THERE'S ONE TABLE IT'LL BE SHARED BY THE COMMISSION. I SAID THERE WAS ONE TABLE FOR EACH. I WAS WRONG, AND I'M SORRY. I WAS ONE TABLE FOR ALL OF US. WE HAD WOMEN ON THE COURSE ON THE 17TH WEDNESDAY OF LAST WEEK AT COLONY WEST. ABOUT 50-60 WOMEN THERE WHO ARE GOING TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY GOLF AND REALIZE THAT GOLF IS FOR THEM TOO. A WONDERFUL TIME TO INTERACT. THERE WAS SOME MEN THERE, SO MEN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY GOLF IF YOU WANT. NO JUDGMENT. JUST PLAY SOME GOLF, LITTLE SIP AND CHIPS AFTERWARDS, [00:40:01] A LITTLE NIGHT GOLF, WITH SOME BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GLOW IN THE DARK BALLS. HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO A NEW BUSINESS IN THE CITY CALLED BLUE BIRDS. AFTER 40 YEARS, BRINGING THEIR BUSINESS TO BROWARD COUNTY FROM PALM BEACH, THEY ARE PEDIATRIC PRACTICE IN MIDWAY SHOPPING PLAZA. THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED PEDIATRICIANS THERE FOR EVERY CHILD IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY OFFER SAME DAY SICK VISITS, EVENING APPOINTMENTS, SCHOOL AND SPORTS, PHYSICALS, AND MORE, EXCEPT ALL KINDS OF INSURANCE, INCLUDING MEDICAID, AND THEY MAKE CARE ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL PEOPLE IN THE FAMILY. I WAS THERE AND THERE WERE THREE KIDS WHO WERE IN WHEELCHAIRS AND AN AUTISTIC CHILD, AND I WATCHED HOW COMFORTING THEY WERE TO THE PARENTS AND TO THE CHILDREN SO THEY CAN RECEIVE THEIR CARE AND COMFORT AND NOT BE SO AFRAID OF THE BIG BAD SCARY DOCTOR'S OFFICE. I APPRECIATE OUR PROPERTY APPRAISER, MARTY KARR, WHO IS HERE FOR OUR DEED FRAUD EVENT AND TELLING US ALL ABOUT HOW TO PROTECT OUR HOMES. IF YOU'VE MISSED IT, I'M SURE MARTY WILL COME OUT AGAIN. THERE'S PLENTY OF STUFF ONLINE, OR YOU CAN JUST ASK SOME OF US THAT WERE THERE. WE'D BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU. AS COMMISSIONER BOLTON SAID, I'VE GOT RUNNING ON TAMARAC GOING THAT MORNING, AND THIS IS A MORE COMPETITIVE 5K GROUP. THEY RUN AND THEY WALK. THAT'S GOING ON THE SAME MORNING AS COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S RUN FOR THE CURE, PLUS I ALSO HAVE MOVE WITH THE MAYOR AT 10:35 FOR BARE BAR FITNESS, IF YOU WANT TO COME WORK OUT FOR THAT. THAT EVENING, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE MY THIRD ANNUAL "HAHAS FOR THE TATAS." IT IS A FUNDRAISER FOR CANCER AWARENESS, OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE DEDICATION TO BREAST CANCER. WE HAVE THREE WONDERFUL COMEDIANS. WE HAVE A VERY LIGHT AUCTION, WE'VE GOT GREAT FOOD, AND YOU'RE GOING TO COME THERE AND FORGET EVERYTHING, BUT ONCE YOU GO INTO THE COMEDY PART, BUT YOU ARE THERE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT CANCER AWARENESS BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT A LOT MORE PEOPLE THAN WE REALIZE. I WILL THANK COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AGAIN AS SHE IS BRINGING THE EVENT THAT ACTUALLY CAUGHT MY CANCER. IT WAS A VERY WELL DONE VAN, AND IT'S 3D. I'M GOING TO ASK, MEN, DON'T FORGET YOU HAVE MAMMARY GLANDS. GET YOURSELVES CHECKED BECAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO TELL YOUR FAMILY IS, OOPS, I WAS TOO EMBARRASSED. GET THEM CHECKED. A SMOOCHAGRAM FOR EVERYBODY. I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR MAKING SURE YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR HEALTH. COLONOSCOPIES, PROSTATE, EVERYTHING. DON'T BE EMBARRASSED BY YOUR BODY. YOUR BODY IS ONE OF THE MOST REMARKABLE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN, AND WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT. IF REPORTS ARE DONE. WE NOW WILL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. [5.CONSENT AGENDA ] CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? >> MAYOR. I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ITEM 5F, THE GRANT, AND YOU DO HAVE AN UPDATED MEMO AND REZO ON YOUR DESK. THAT'S TO NOTIFY YOU OF THE CHANGE THAT WAS REQUIRED BY F THAT OF A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BECAUSE THE WORK IS BEING DONE ON F THAT EASEMENT. IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT $17,000. IT TAKES THE PROJECT COST FROM 371-388, AND SO IT'S JUST TO CHANGE THAT NUMBER. >> DO WE HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY MANAGER. I'LL TAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO PULL AN ITEM, COMMISSIONER BOLTON? >> YES, MADAM MAYOR. 5E. >> 5E IS PULLED. DO I HAVE A SECOND TO MY MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS 5E AND WITH 5F AS AMENDED. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON TO MY MOTION. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> VICE MAYOR DANIEL? >> YES. >> MAYOR GOMEZ? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLTON? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5-0 AS AMENDED. >> THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ 5E TR 14322 FOR THE RECORD. [5.e TR14322 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, approving payment in the amount of $6,580.68 to SHI International Corp (SHI) for additional Microsoft licensing/subscriptions “true up” costs; ratifying past expenditures with SHI in the amount of $74,742.02 for FY2025 nunc pro tunc, in accordance with Section 6-145(b)(6) of the Tamarac Procurement Code; authorizing expenditures from the appropriate accounts; providing for conflicts; providing for scrivener errors; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.] >> ITEM 5E, RESOLUTION CITY COMMISSION, CITY OF TAMARAC APPROVING PAYMENT AMOUNT OF $6,580.68 TO SHI INTERNATIONAL COURT FOR ADDITIONAL MICROSOFT LICENSE SUBSCRIPTION, TRUE UP COSTS, RATIFYING PAST EXPENDITURE WITH SHI IN AMOUNT OF $74,742.02 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, IN ACCORDS WITH SECTION 6-145B6 OF TAMARAC PROCURING CODE, PROVIDING FOR THE EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE. >> OKAY. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. I HAVE A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR DANIEL. [00:45:01] WE DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM. I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. COMMISSIONER BOLTON? >> I'D LIKE A PRESENTATION. >> DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? >> MR. TWIGGER. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COMMISSIONER, JAMES TWIGGER CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE CITY. JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND INFORMATION FIRST. THE CITY HAS HAD A MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT. WE STARTED USING ENTERPRISE AGREEMENTS BACK IN 2010 GIVE OR TAKE. IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS. ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT IS A 3 YEAR AGREEMENT MICROSOFT THAT HELPS US ENSURE THE BEST PRICING AVAILABLE. AS A SMALLER CITY WITH A SMALLER NUMBER OF DEVICES, USERS, AND WHATNOT. IF WE WENT UP TO BID ON ITS OWN, IT WOULD BE HARDER TO GET THE SAME PRICING THAT WE DO IN AN AGREEMENT. LEVERAGING QUANTITIES SCALE THROUGH THE STATE CONTRACT, WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE DEEPEST DISCOUNTING AVAILABLE, THEY CALL LEVEL D. BY BUYING THE LICENSE AGREEMENT RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO AND BUY THE LICENSES, LIKE, WHENEVER YOU GET IT A WINDOWS 11 OR WINDOWS, WHATEVER COMES NEXT, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BUY THE FULL PRODUCT NEXT TIME AROUND, WE BOUGHT THE ORIGINAL LICENSES BACK IN 2010, AND THEN WE ALSO PAY A MAINTENANCE CHARGE WITH THAT. THAT WAY, A SMALLER MAINTENANCE CHARGE IS ALL WAY TO PAY GOING FORWARD, SHORT OF ADDITIONAL INCREASES IN QUANTITIES. THAT WAY, OVER TIME, THE CITY SAVES QUITE A LOT OF MONEY. BUT AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT, WE ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO PAY WHAT'S CALLED TRUE UP CHARGES. DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, WE MIGHT HIRE MORE STAFF OR MAYBE THERE'S OTHER THIRD PARTIES THAT WE ENGAGE WITH. WE HAVE CERTAIN USAGE CHARGES FOR WHAT WE DO IN THE CLOUD AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. WE HAVE TO TRUE UP TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR TO PAY THOSE ADDITIONAL CHARGES THAT WE GET. LIKE I SAID, BACK IN 2010, WE HAD THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, THEN JUST A QUICK HISTORY. IN 2013, WE ALSO, AS THE IT DEPARTMENT OF SOUTHWEST RANCHES, THEY CAME ONTO OUR ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT, SO THEY PAIRED THEIR FAIR SHARE. THAT'S ACTUALLY PLUS A 15% MARKUP BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE BILLING IN THAT. THEN THE MOST RECENT AGREEMENT WAS FROM OCTOBER OF 2022 FOR 3 YEARS. WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER ITEM BEFORE YOU COME OCTOBER FOR THE NEXT THREE YEAR RENEWAL. BUT IT'S PURCHASED THROUGH THE STATE CONTRACT, BUT BY DOING SO IN THE ECONOMY OF SCALE GIVES US THE HIGHEST LEVEL DISCOUNTING AVAILABLE THROUGH MICROSOFT FOR THOSE ITEMS. WHEN WE DID THIS, THE REQUIRED PAYMENT EVERY YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN $270,000. BUT AGAIN, THERE'S ALWAYS THOSE TRUE UP USE CHARGES BECAUSE WE HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF, DO OTHER THINGS WITH IT THAT WE NEED TO PAY FOR. SHI IS ONE OF OUR MORE FREQUENT VENDORS THAT WE USE. THEY JUST THEY BID ON BIDS THAT WE PUT OUT THERE. THEY GIVE US QUOTES, AND THOSE QUOTES ARE GO THROUGH THE FORMAL BID PROCESS OR THEY'RE BASED ON CONTRACT PRICING AS WELL. DURING THIS PAST YEAR, WE ALSO PURCHASED OTHER ITEMS FROM THEM AMOUNTING TO A LITTLE BIT OVER $38,000. FOR EXAMPLE, WENT THROUGH A BID PROCESS. WE GOT QUOTES FOR REPLACEMENT WIRELESS ACCESS POINTS, FOR OUR BACKUP SOFTWARE SOLUTION, AND FOR SOME NETWORK CABLES. A LITTLE SMALLER PURCHASES HERE AND THERE. WITH THOSE PURCHASES COMBINED WITH THE TRUE UP CHARGES, IT'S WENT OVER THE $65,000. HONESTLY, IN PAST YEARS, IT JUST HASN'T AMOUNTED TO SUCH A LARGER NUMBER, BUT EVERYTHING IN THE ECONOMY IS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE, SO IT JUST MADE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THIS PAST YEAR. WE HAVE, WHAT DO WE SAY 30,000 A LITTLE BIT OVER $35,000 OTHER COSTS PLUS THE $36,000 PAST PAID TRUE UP CHARGES AND USAGE CHARGES DURING THIS PAST YEAR. I WAS IT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO, WE GOT ANOTHER INVOICE FROM SHI FOR ADDITIONAL TRUE UP CHARGES FOR LICENSING AND THEN FOR SOME OTHER USAGE CHARGES IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS. HONESTLY, I WAS MENTIONED TO THE EVENT THIS AFTERNOON, I GOT ANOTHER INVOICE FROM SHI ON TOP OF THIS FOR MORE TRUE UP CHARGES, USAGE CHARGES FOR DOORS AZURE. THOSE AREN'T EVEN ACCOUNTED FOR HERE QUITE. >> IF I MAY, MADAM MAYOR, MR. TWIGGER, AS LONG AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM, IT MAY BE A GOOD IDEA TO INTRODUCE THAT AMOUNT INTO THE RECORD AS WELL, SO MAYBE THE COMMISSION WOULD CONSIDER AMENDING THE NUMBER WITH THAT ADDITIONAL TRUE UP CHARGES. >> YEAH. HONESTLY, IF YOU'D BE SO KIND, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF WE COULD AMEND IT TO THE BILL TODAY WAS $33,850 CHANGE, AND I WOULD RATHER BE CAUTIOUS IN CASE WE GET ANOTHER ONE FOR SEPTEMBER USAGE, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT. IF WE COULD JUST AMEND IT BY, WHAT IS THAT LIKE $8,000 ANTICIPATING IT SHOULD COVER ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE MIGHT GET BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR FOR THOSE USAGE CHARGES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON, ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I CAN HELP WITH? >> THANK YOU, JAMES. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS COMPANY. [00:50:05] >> YES. THE AGREEMENT IS WITH MICROSOFT, BUT WE PURCHASE IT THROUGH THE VENDOR WHO IS ON THE STATE CONTRACT. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE ACTUAL VENDOR? >> THE CONTRACT ISN'T WITH SHI, THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO SUBMIT A QUOTE. THERE'S OTHER CERTIFICATIONS AFFIDAVITS THAT WE DO GET AT THE TIME WITH SHI PER PURCHASING POLICIES PROCEDURES, BUT THE AGREEMENT WAS WITH MICROSOFT. >> EXPLAIN THAT FOR US, CITY ATTORNEY. THE AGREEMENT IS WITH MICROSOFT, BUT WE HAVE THIS AGREEMENT. SORRY, ATTORNEY. THE VENDOR ITSELF IS A DIFFERENT COMPANY. HOW IS IT THAT WE ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH A VENDOR THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH? >> IF I MAY? >> IT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. >> IN GENERAL, IF WE'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE VENDOR, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FORM OF AGREEMENT WITH THE VENDOR. THAT'S A GENERAL RULE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A LICENSE AGREEMENT INVOLVED IN THIS CASE BECAUSE I WASN'T INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATION OR DETAILS OF THIS CONTRACT. >> MANAGER, THIS IS WHERE I ASK YOU IF WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PARTICULAR VENDOR OR NOT, BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THROUGH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE A VENDOR HERE, A VENDOR THERE, AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING ONE VENDOR USE ANOTHER VENDOR. LET ME UNDERSTAND AND BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT ON THE RECORD WHY WE'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH A SUB-VENDOR THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH MICROSOFT BECAUSE MICROSOFT IS NOT WHO WE ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH. WE'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH SHI. >> MICROSOFT, IN THEIR TRADE AGREEMENTS UNDER THE STATE CONTRACT, DESIGNATED SHI AS THEIR AGENT IN THE STATE FOR THEIR LICENSING PURPOSES. WHEN WE DEAL WITH SHI AS THE MICROSOFT'S AGENT TO PROCESS THESE LICENSING AGREEMENTS, WE'RE ACTUALLY EXECUTING MICROSOFT DOCUMENTS AND NOT SHI DOCUMENTS BECAUSE OUR AGREEMENT IS WITH MICROSOFT AND THAT'S PROCESSED THROUGH SHI AS THEIR AGENT. >> NO, BUT WE'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH SHI. SHI IS A COMPANY THAT HAS AN EIN THAT IS SEPARATE FROM MICROSOFT, TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES. WE DO NOT HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SHI. WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH MICROSOFT. YOU CAN'T TELL ME TO PASS AN AGREEMENT FOR SHI WHERE THERE'S NO AGREEMENT WITH SHI. >> IF I MAY, THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE DOING DIRECTLY WITH SHI TODAY IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $74,742. THAT'S THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH SHI, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO THE COMMISSION SO WE CAN RATIFY ANYTHING OVER THAT $65,000. >> THAT WOULD BE UNDER YOUR THRESHOLD. >> ABOVE THE THRESHOLD, CORRECT. THAT'S THE BUSINESS WE'RE CONDUCTING WITH SHI DIRECTLY. >> CORRECT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A BID PROCESS. DID WE SECURE OTHER QUOTES? SHOW ME THE QUOTES. >> GOING BACK TO OCTOBER 2022. >> BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR OWN PROCUREMENT CODE? >> THIS CONTRACT IS PURSUANT TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA CONTRACT, THE NASPO AGREEMENT, JUST TO GO BACK AND WE COULD ALWAYS DO A ACTUAL BID PROCESS, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE. BECAUSE OUR NUMBERS ARE SO LOW, WE WOULD HAVE HIGHER COSTS AT THAT POINT. >> BUT THE PROCUREMENT CODE SAYS THAT WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT OR PAYING THESE AMOUNT OF MONIES, YOU MUST HAVE MORE THAN ONE QUOTE. THAT IS YOUR OWN PROCUREMENT PROCEDURE. YOU CAN'T COME WITH A PROCUREMENT PROCEDURE FOR OTHER THINGS, AND THEN JUST EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BLINDLY PASS THIS. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE OTHER FOUR, BUT I READ EVERYTHING. SHOW ME THE QUOTES. >> I CAN'T GIVE THE SPECIFIC TECHNICAL DETAILS, CHRISTINE CAN. BUT ACCORDING TO PROCUREMENT CODE, WE CAN ALSO LEVERAGE CONTRACT VEHICLES, WHICH ARE COMPETITIVE BID CONTRACTS. >> REALLY? [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD FOR OTHER CONTRACTS. >> I MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE THE RENEWAL COMING UP IN OCTOBER. WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH A BID PROCESS LIKE YOU'RE GETTING QUOTES, WELL, A FORMAL BID PROCESS, BUT IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT, WHAT I ALSO DO IS REACH OUT TO OTHER MICROSOFT PARTNERS, OTHER RESELLERS, TO HAVE THEM ALSO PROVIDE US WITH QUOTES BASED ON OTHER CONTRACT VEHICLES, AND I CAN TELL YOU FOR THE FEW THAT I HAVE. >> JAMES. >> YES. >> LET'S CORRECT THE RECORD. I THINK YOU INDICATE THIS IS A PIGGYBACK, CORRECT? [00:55:01] >> IT IS. >> YOU DON'T NEED QUOTES. >> THEN THAT CHANGES THE CONVERSATION. NOBODY PLACED THE PIGGYBACK IN THIS BACKUP, I DON'T SEE IT. BY THE WAY, I DON'T GO THROUGH THE AGENDA WITH THE MANAGER, I GO THROUGH THE AGENDA BY MYSELF. IF I HAVE QUESTIONS, I ASK OTHER PROFESSIONALS OUTSIDE. WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING ITEMS LIKE THIS, YOU GOT TO COME WITH THE HISTORY AND THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. YOU CAN'T JUST TELL US THAT THIS IS A PIGGYBACK AND NOT PUT IT IN A BACKUP. >> COMMISSIONER, ON PAGE 2 OF THE MEMO, IT DOES SAY ABOUT PIGGYBACK. >> OF THE LAST THREE YEARS, HOW MANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS HAVE YOU DONE? >> WE HAVEN'T DONE BUDGET AMENDMENTS FOR THIS. THIS ISN'T A BUDGET AMENDMENT. >> YOU'VE NOT DONE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR SHI IN THE PAST? >> I'M WONDERING IF YOU MEAN TRUE-UP INSTEAD OF BUDGET AMENDMENT. >> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TODAY. I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, HAVE WE DONE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO, SINCE THE START OF THE AGREEMENT? >> WE MAY HAVE, BUT IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE LICENSING AGREEMENT WITH MICROSOFT. SHI, AS I SAID, ALL THAT INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS A BACKUP. BUT TODAY, THE BUSINESS IN FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION IS THE CONSIDERATION FOR THIS [OVERLAPPING] $74,000 AND NOTHING ELSE. >> I WANT TO KNOW IF IN THE PAST, WE HAVE DONE A BUDGET AMENDMENT OR RATIFYING PRIOR PURCHASES. >> WE MAY HAVE. >> WELL, NOT FOR MICROSOFT LICENSING. WE DO ALWAYS BUDGET FOR USAGE CHARGES AND POTENTIAL INCREASES. THERE HASN'T BEEN A BUDGET AMENDMENT RELATED TO THIS AT ALL. [OVERLAPPING] >> IN THE PAST? >> IN THE PAST. WE HAVE RATIFIED, AND THE COMMISSIONER RATIFY OTHER THINGS AS WELL. >> STICK A PIN BECAUSE HOW I DO MY RESEARCH IS THAT I GO BACK TO AGENDAS AND I JUST DO A KEYWORD SEARCH FOR THE VENDOR. IN THE PAST, I'VE NOT SEEN THIS VENDOR COME TO US FOR RATIFICATION. I'VE NOT SEEN IT, SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THE RATIFICATION CAME IN THE PAST. >> IF YOU HAVEN'T FOUND IT, THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN RATIFICATION. [OVERLAPPING] >> NO, I WANT YOU TELL ME WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A RATIFICATION OR NOT. >> TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION, THERE HASN'T BEEN BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EXCEEDED 65,000 WITH THAT VENDOR. >> YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT YOU HAVE NOT EXCEEDED 65,000, BUT ON OCTOBER 31ST OF 2024, THE CITY SPENT WITH THAT VENDOR $124,643.08, AND THIS WAS NOT IN THE BACKUP. I HAD TO ASK FOR THE INFORMATION. IF YOU DID NOT HAVE A RATIFICATION AT THAT POINT, THEN THAT MEANS THE CITY MANAGER IS SPENDING OVER HIS AUTHORITY. WHAT IS THE CORRECT ANSWER? >> COMMISSIONER, WHAT WAS THE CONTENT OF THAT ITEM? IT PROBABLY WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. >> YOUR STAFF PROVIDED THE INFORMATION. THIS VENDOR HAS RECEIVED 290,222.80 SINCE SINCE 2024 TO PRESENT. >> OF THAT $217,000 AS RELATED TO THE EA AGREEMENT. [OVERLAPPING] >> 290,222.80. >> THAT'S WHAT WE SPENT. >> WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THE BACKUP OR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. BUT THIS VENDOR, UNDER THIS CONTRACT, WILL BE RECEIVING SOMEWHERE AROUND $600,000 OVER THREE YEARS, THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT. >> BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING TIME ON A BUDGET FOR $5,000 PRINTING ITEMS WHEN THERE'S EXPENSES FOR $290,222.80. WE SPENT ONE HOUR ON A $5,000 ITEM WHEN WE HAVE $290,222 HERE BEING SPENT. MIGHT I ADD, THE DETRACTORS FOR ME MAY NOT THINK THAT, I'M BRINGING SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMING FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT I READ, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CLEARLY STATED IN THE BACKUP. THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM. YOU'RE A WONDERFUL EMPLOYEE. YOU DO ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL JOB, BUT THIS IS A FINANCE ISSUE. THANK YOU. [01:00:04] >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. SHI IS A RESELLER OF MICROSOFT PRODUCT, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. THEY'RE MICROSOFT PARTNER AND A SOFTWARE RESELLER. >> WHEN YOU PAY SHI, YOU'RE USING THE CLOUD. IS IT A CLOUD SOFTWARE THAT YOU'RE USING FOR STORAGE? WHAT SERVICE DO THEY RUN THERE? >> WE HAVE MICROSOFT LICENSING FOR WINDOWS DESKTOPS, WINDOWS SERVER LICENSING, SQL SERVER LICENSING, EXCHANGE. THERE'S OFFICE 365 DESCRIPTIONS. THERE'S USAGE CHARGES FOR SHIPPING ONLINE. THERE'S AZURE USAGE CHARGES. THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. >> I KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY WELL. WHEN YOU'RE A RESELLER, THE COMPANY GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO SELL THEIR PRODUCT AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE. >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE CAN'T ACTUALLY CONTRACT WITH MICROSOFT DIRECTLY. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SOFTWARE RESELLER. JUST LIKE WITH AMAZON, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH OTHER SOFTWARE RESELLERS AS WELL. >> YOU CAN'T GO ONLINE AND SIGN UP FOR MICROSOFT AZURE, AND THE SMALL BUSINESS, YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND YOU CAN GO ONLINE A SMALL BUSINESS AND DO IT, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY DIRECT YOU TO PARTNER. THERE'S OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH, BUT THIS WAS THE STATE CONTRACT PARTNER THAT HAD THE BEST PRICING. .>> THEY DIRECT YOU TO A PARTNER, WHICH IS SHI, A RESELLER OF MICROSOFT, IN YOUR SPECIFIC REGION, AND THEN THEY PROVIDED YOU WITH THE PRICE IN? >> YES. >> FOR THE SPECIFIC MICROSOFT PRODUCT? >> YES. >> YOU'RE PAYING THEM DIRECTLY. >> THE SHI WHO THEN REMITS PAYMENTS TO MICROSOFT, AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CUT OF THAT, TOO. >> BECAUSE SOMETIMES IN TECHNOLOGY WORLD, YOU'LL BE A RESELLER OF A PRODUCT, BUT YOU'LL PAY THE COMPANY DIRECTLY, BUT THE COMPANY WOULD AS A RESELLER THEY PAY YOU A PERCENTAGE. >> WE DO HAVE OTHER CONTRACTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY WITH OFFER COMPANIES. ONES THAT ALLOW IT, THIS ONE, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RESELLER. >> THIS ONE YOU PAY DIRECTLY TO SHI. BUT WE DIDN'T GOING WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON POINT WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SHI. >> I'M NOT SURE HOW TO RESPOND. >> CITY CITY MANAGER? >> YES. SHI IS AN ENTITY IN THE CONTRACT AS A DESIGNATED AGENT OR RESELLER OF MICROSOFT PRODUCT. >> MICROSOFT SOFTWARE. >> MICROSOFT PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. >> THE CONTRACTOR IS IN MICROSOFT AND MICROSOFT DESIGNATE SHI AS THE AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTOR OF THAT CONTRACT. JUST WANT TO CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I'M IN A TECHNOLOGY WORLD. I KNOW SOMETIMES WITH THE MODERN TECHNOLOGIES MARQUE AND HOW TO OPERATE, AND NOT IN A BAD WAY, BUT I MEAN JUST WITH THESE NEW TECHNOLOGIES, AND THESE NEW RELATIONSHIPS, THE CONTRACTS ARE DIFFERENT. SHI IS A RESELLER OF MICROSOFT? >> YES. >> MICROSOFT DESIGNATE SHI AS A LOCAL RESELLER. >> THERE ARE OTHER LOCAL RESELLERS AVAILABLE. THIS ONE HAS THE BEST PRICING. >>JUST LIKE I GO TO ANY LOCAL COMPANY THAT WOULD DIRECT ME TO, LIKE, A LOCAL RESELLER. IF I GO BY BLINDS, THREE BLINDS OR WHATEVER, THEY'LL SEND ME TO A LOCAL PERSON LIKE BASE AND TAMA? >> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS LIKE MICROSOFT PARTNERS, WHICH THERE ARE MORE THAT YOU CAN GO FOR SERVICES TO HELP YOU WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TYPE THINGS. BUT FOR RESELLING THE SOFTWARE, THERE MAY BE LOCAL SMALLER COMPANIES THAT CAN DO IT, BUT AGAIN [OVERLAPPING]. >> I'M JUST TALKING LAYMAN'S TERM SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THE CONTRACT IS STRUCTURED. AS A RESELLER, SHI IS AUTHORIZED TO RESELL MICROSOFT PRODUCT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S COMING FROM A STATE. THAT'S PIGGYBACK FROM A STATES BECAUSE THE STATE AUTHORIZED SHI AS A COMPANY? >> YES. >> GOES OUT TO BID, GETS DIFFERENT BIDS FROM DIFFERENT RESELLERS, AND THIS ONE IS THE BEST ONE. >> WAS THE CHEAPEST RESELLER OF THE MICROSOFT PRODUCT. JUST WANT CLARIFICATION. >> CAN I POINT A CLARIFICATION? IS THIS LIKE AMAZON? >> YES. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING SHOPPING ON AMAZON? >> NO. >> WELL, IT IS. AMAZON HAS A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO SELL ITEMS FOR AND THEY FIND THE BEST PRICES AND YOU SELECT IT. >> NO. >> AMAZON HAS WHATS CALLED AMAZON WEB SERVICES, AND THIS IS MICROSOFT [OVERLAPPING]. >> AMAZON SHOPPING WHERE IT'S THE PASS THROUGH. >> NO. AMAZON WOULD BE MICHELLE JACOME STORE. YOU WOULD SELL ON AMAZON AND AMAZON WOULD PAY YOU A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT MICHELLE JACOME STORE SELLS. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE WAY IT'S OPERATED. IT'S A RESELLERS AGREEMENT, WHICH IN THE TECHNOLOGY WORLD YOU SELL A PRODUCT, BUT YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO SELL IT AS A DISTRIBUTOR. THE COMPANY PICK YOU. >> THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM OUT THERE THAT YOU HAVE TO BUY THROUGH RESELLER. YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT IT. >> YOU HAVE TO BUY THROUGH THE RESELLER. YOU CAN'T GO DIRECTLY TO THE COMPANY BECAUSE THEY'VE ALLOCATED THE RESELLER TO SELL THAT PRODUCT. IS IT ENTERPRISE OR GOVERNMENT ENTITIES? >> I'M SORRY. CAN YOU ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN? >> IS IT ENTERPRISE THAT DESIGNATED TO SELL TO GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, ENTERPRISE, WHY THIS SPECIFIC COMPANY? WHY NOT SOMEONE ELSE? >> AT THE TIME IN OCTOBER 2022, THIS CONTRACT WAS THE MOST COST ADVANTAGEOUS. THIS IS MICROSOFT'S HIGHEST LEVEL PRICING. IT'S A LITTLE MORE TECHNICAL, IT'S CALLED LEVEL D PRICING. IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE TO STATE FEDERAL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S THE HIGHEST LEVEL DISCOUNT YOU CAN GET AND TO GO THROUGH THIS RESELLER ON THAT CONTRACT THAT THE STATE ALREADY BID OUT, THAT'S THE AVENUE TO GET THERE. >> WHAT IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE FROM MICROSOFT ORACLE? IS IT THE SAME PROCESS? >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ORACLE. [01:05:02] >> IT WOULD BE A SIMILAR PROCESS. ORACLE STATE CONTRACT MAY BE REPRESENTED BY ANOTHER ENTITY. IN THIS CASE, SHI PROVIDES NO SERVICES OR PRODUCTS FROM MICROSOFT TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC. OUR DEALINGS ARE ENTIRELY WITH THE MICROSOFT ITSELF. THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY PUSHING PAPER BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND MICROSOFT IN PROVIDING THESE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. >> DOES SHI SELL OUT OF PRODUCTS OTHER THAN MICROSOFT? >> THEY DO. THEY DO A NUMBER OF. THEY REPRESENT A NUMBER OF OTHER CONTRACTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY'RE ONE OF THE LARGEST RESELLERS. BUT THEIR ARRANGEMENT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY THE SAME FOR OTHER PRODUCTS. IN THE CASE OF MICROSOFT, THEY PROVIDE ZERO SERVICES. BUT IF WE BUY OTHER PRODUCTS LIKE THE $74,000 WORTH, WHICH IS WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, THEY MAY STILL BE UNDER SOME STATE CONTRACT PRICING, BUT DIRECTLY SOLD BY SHI. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DEALING WITH SHI IN THAT INSTANCE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. >> IT'S THE CAR DEALERSHIP MODEL. FORD SELLS CARS, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO TO THIS LOCAL FORD DEALER. WHEREAS TESLA SELLS CARS ALL ACROSS DIRECTLY TO THE CONSUMER, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT OLD MODEL OF GOING THROUGH A RESELLER. WHEREAS HOLD THIS IS STRUCTURED, THIS IS GOING THROUGH A RESELLER MODEL SIMILAR TO YOUR LOCAL CAR COMPANY. >> IT IS, BUT THIS IS MORE LIKE THE TESLA MODEL, EXCEPT THAT THERE IS SHI SOMEWHERE IN THE LOCAL PRODUCT. >> TESLA IS DIRECTLY TO THE CONSUMER. TESLA REVOLUTIONIZED THAT BECAUSE THE STATES HAD TO RULE BEFORE WE ENTERED A LOCAL DEALERSHIP. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE RESELLER. YOU'RE TELLING ME THE CONTRACTORS AT MICROSOFT, BUT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH SHI BECAUSE THEY'RE DESIGNATED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO BE THE RESELLER. OF ALL THE RESELLERS, THEY OR THE LEWES, IS THAT CORRECT? >> IN OCTOBER 22, THEY WERE THE LOWEST. >> THEY WERE THE LOWEST AT THAT TIME. >>YES. >> WE'RE GETTING THESE CHARGES BASED ON THE USE OF THE SERVERS? WHAT'S UP THE UP CHARGES? >> IT'S A MIX OF THINGS. IT USES CHARGES FROM MICROSOFT AZURE. WE'VE HAD TO ADD ADDITIONAL SPACE TO SHAREPOINT ONLINE, WHICH IS WHERE WE STORE BASICALLY ALL OVER 1,000 FOLDERS FOR THE CITY. THERE'S BEEN ADDITIONAL A FEW NEW HIRES. THERE'S ALSO BEEN ADDITIONAL OTHER THIRD-PARTIES. THERE'S OTHER TECHNICAL LIMITATIONS OF A LICENSE FOR AN OFFICE SUBSCRIPTION WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE DEDICATED ONES FOR CERTAIN EMAIL ACCOUNTS. >> I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH IN THE WEEDS, BUT BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WAS A TIME WHERE MICROSOFT DEALT DIRECTLY WITH ITS CUSTOMERS FOR THEIR PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. THAT MODEL DISAPPEARED FOR A LOT OF THESE VENDORS, AND SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THEIR OWN FIELD STAFFING AND FIELD OFFICES AND FIELD RESOURCES, THEY CHOSE TO WORK WITH THESE LARGER RESELLERS IN GETTING THEIR PRODUCTS OUT THERE. THAT'S THE MODEL THAT THEY CHOSE. THEY CHOSE THEY'RE WORKING WITH SHI FOR THE RESELLING OF THEIR LICENSES AND PRODUCTS AND SERVICES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA UNDER THAT CONTRACT. >> BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PRODUCT IS MICROSOFT PRODUCT, AND NOT REALLY DEAL WITH SSI. THE MICROSOFT WHO RUNS THE SERVERS WHO RUNS THE E MAIL AND ALL THAT STUFF. SHI A SALES TEAM. THEY'RE JUST A SALESPERSON LIKE A SALES TEAM THAT'S GO AND SELLING THE PRODUCT. >> CORRECT. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, ONLY BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THE ITEM IS STRUCTURED IS NOT CLEAR. ARE WE OR ARE WE NOT IN AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHWEST RANCHES? >> WE ARE. >> HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT REPRESENTS VERSUS THIS 2022 TRANSACTION? >> WE PROVIDE IT SERVICES TO SOUTHWEST RANCHES, AND THEN WE CHARGE THEM A FIXED MONTHLY FEE PLUS EXPENSES, MATERIALS, AND OTHER PRODUCTS. IN PROVIDING THESE SERVICES, WE ALSO SIGNED THEM UP WITH THE MICROSOFT LICENSES AND PRODUCTS AND SERVICES. INSTEAD OF HAVING A SEPARATE MICROSOFT AGREEMENT, WE INCORPORATED THEM INTO OUR OWN CONTRACT AND UNDER SEPARATE DESIGNATION, BUT UNDER OUR MICROSOFT LICENSING AGREEMENT, WHICH IS DESIGNATED IN THAT ORIGINAL APPROVAL. [01:10:04] WE PASS ALONG THE CHARGE TO SOUTHWEST RANCHES PLUS A MARKUP. FIFTY PERCENT? >> FIFTEEN PERCENT. >> IS THE CITY RECEIVING A REVENUE FROM SOUTHWEST RANCHES? >> WE ARE. YES. TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH. >> TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH. >> IT'S MORE THAN THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER. I'M TALKING ABOUT, IT'S 2,000 OR MORE PER MONTH RIGHT NOW FOR JUST IT SERVICES. THEN WHENEVER WE GET TO THIS POINT IN THE YEAR, WHEN WE GET THE USUALLY IT'S IN OCTOBER, WE GET THE LARGE ANNUAL BILL FOR THE ANNUAL PAYMENT. WE BREAK OUT THAT BETWEEN US AND THEM, AND THEY PAY SOMEWHERE AROUND 20 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLAR TO US FOR THEIR SHARE. >> WE'RE THE HOLDER OF THE LICENSE? >> CORRECT. YES. >> THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN AGREEMENT WITH THEIR QUANTITY. THEY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 50 OR ABOVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN AGREEMENT MICROSOFT. >> AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF LANGUAGE IN HERE, AND IT'S REALLY IT'S NOT CLEAR, AND I'VE BEEN MAKING THE SAME COMPLAINT ABOUT THE WAY THE BACKUP IS PRESENTED. IT'S JUST NOT CLEAR. WITH SO ON PAGE 5 OF THE MEMO, IT SAYS THAT YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING TO TRUE UP $42,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025. WITH THE ADDITION OF OTHER PURCHASES IN THE AMOUNT OF 385. THAT'S ALMOST A TOTAL OF, $87,000 FOR WHAT? WHAT ARE WE TRUING UP EXACTLY? YOU SAID, STAFF, THERE'S NO SPECIFICITY AROUND THE REQUEST. AND I THINK, THE DISCUSSION, WHILE I AM OKAY WITH WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE STAFF NEEDS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB. WHEN WE PUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, ESPECIALLY ON A CONSENT CONSENT AGENDA, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? ARE YOU GUYS SAYING THAT THE NUMBER IS 290 SOMETHING THOUSAND IN THE AGREEMENT AND WE'RE SHORT $87,000 THAT WE NEED TO TRUE UP OR WE HAD ADDITIONAL EXPENSES BEYOND THE THRESHOLD IN THE NON-CONTRACT? >> YES, I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. WE TRY TO CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND I GUESS IT NEEDS FURTHER CLARIFICATION. TODAY, THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING, OR WE SHOULD BE PRESENTING IS THAT $74,742, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL. THAT AMOUNT IS OUTSIDE OF ALL THE $200,000 ANNUAL AGREEMENT WITH MICROSOFT. THIS IS OUR EXPENDITURE WITH SHI. WE SPENT ABOUT $36,000 IN WHAT THOSE TRUE UP COSTS MEAN IS THAT DURING THE YEAR, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE USE LICENSES. WE ADD ADDITIONAL LICENSES, WE ADD ADDITIONAL HARDWARE SOMETIMES, WE ADD ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, AND THEY ALL REQUIRE LICENSES. WHEN WE NEED THOSE LICENSES, WE CAN ADD THEM. THEY DON'T CHARGE US AT THAT POINT, BUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY WANT US TO TRUE UP FOR THE ADDITIONAL LICENSES THAT WE USE, WHATEVER THE PRODUCT MAY BE. THAT'S THE AMOUNT. NOT JUST LICENSES, BUT ALSO THE CLOUD SERVICES THAT WE USE WITH THEM. THOSE CHARGES, THEY COME IN AT A TIME. THAT THEY THEY BILL US. BETWEEN THE AMOUNTS OF NORMAL IT SUPPLIES THAT WE PURCHASED FROM THEM, WHICH WAS $38,000 IN THE FIRST BULLET AND THE TRAP CHARGES, $36,000, WERE ABOUT $6,580 OVER MY THRESHOLD OF $65,000. THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM IN FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION TODAY. MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE PROVIDED ANY OF THE OTHER BACKUP, [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT IS TOO MUCH INFORMATION. >> WHAT'S THE ANNUAL AMOUNT FOR THIS CONTRACT OR FOR THIS AGREEMENT FOR THIS SERVICE OR WHATEVER IT IS. >> IT'S TOTAL OVER $217,000. IS THE REQUIRED AMOUNT. >> SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO DOLLARS FOR IT'S A TOTAL 3-YEAR 217 ANNUALLY. >> YES. THAT AGREEMENT REQUIRES US TO PAY THAT. THAT AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD APPROVED BACK THEN [01:15:01] ALSO REQUIRES US TO PAY FOR THESE OTHER USAGE CHARGES. >> WITH THE TRUE UP CHARGES, IT'S REALLY IN EXCESS OF SEVEN HUNDRED PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS? >> YES. WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE EVALUATED OUR ILA WITH SOUTHWEST RANCHES IS $2,800 FAIR FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING? >> THIS IS A FIXED AMOUNT, WHATEVER THROW UP CHARGES OR LICENSE CHARGES THAT WE HAVE. WE BILL THEM FOR BECAUSE THOSE ARE KNOWN QUANTITIES. IF THEY HAVE 20 LICENSES, 30 LICENSES, WE BUILD THEM FOR THOSE EXACT CHARGES. THAT PART IS PRETTY CLEAR IN THE CONTRACT AND WHAT THEY USE. >> DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL USERS OR ANYTHING. >> IF THEY DO, THEY'RE ALSO PART OF THAT THROW UP PROCESS, AND THEN WE BILL THEM FOR THAT. >> I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT $300,000 A YEAR, AND WE'RE PROVIDING SERVICES TO ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT WE ENTERED AND WE ENTERED INTO THAT AGREEMENT IN 2013. I GUESS MY DIRECT QUESTION IS, WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE EVALUATED THE STRUCTURE, AND WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE'VE ASSESSED WHETHER OR NOT THE PAYMENT STRUCTURE IS FAIR? >> WE CONTINUOUSLY ASSESS THAT, IF I MAY. WE DO THAT BY A COUPLE WAYS. ONE, WE DO HAVE A FIXED ANNUAL INCREASE. THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SERVICE CALLS THAT WE HAVE WITH SOUTHWEST RANCHES. WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SERVICE CALLS, AND WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF BILLING, AND WE LOOK AT THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ALIGNED WITH OUR, I DON'T WANT TO SAY PROFITABILITY, BUT THAT AGREEMENT STILL MAKES SENSE FOR FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC FOR BOTH ENTITIES. BUT WE LOOK AT HOW MANY SERVICE CALLS THAT THEY INCURRED EVERY MONTH, AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE CHARGES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WHAT WE'RE CHARGING THEM COVERS THAT AND BEYOND FOR THIS COMMITMENT. >> I GUESS MY MAIN CONCERN IS IF WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL BY WHICH WE'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE AT A FIXED RATE, OUR TRUE UP COSTS ARE NOT FIXED. >> THOSE WOULD BE CHARGED ADDITIONALLY WITH THE 15% MARKUP, THOSE THREW UP CHARGES ON TOP OF THE FIXED PAYMENTS. >> UNDERSTOOD. I GUESS BUT WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH IS THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO MODIFY OR TREE UP OR AMEND WHATEVER WAS ALLOCATED FOR THIS AGREEMENT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THESE SERVICE RELATED CONTRACTS WITH CITIES AROUND US. I'VE HAD CONCERNS, AND I HAVE CONCERN HERE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SERVICES ARE, WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING THEM. BUT I HAVE CONCERNS, DOES IT REQUIRE A FULL BODY? HOW MUCH TIME IS A FIXED RATE FOR THOSE SERVICES ADEQUATE, GIVING CONSIDERATION TO WHAT THE CITY IS INCURRING IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURES FOR THIS LICENSING AGREEMENT. WHILE I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE, THERE ARE QUESTIONS AROUND WHETHER OR NOT THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES IS FAIR IN TERMS OF WHATEVER EVEN OUR STAFF IS HAVING TO DO TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, IF THERE ARE SERVICES OUTSIDE OF JUST ACCESS TO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT HERE BECAUSE THIS BACKUP WOULD HAVE NEVER TOLD ME THAT WE ARE. IT MENTIONS IN ILA, IT DOESN'T MENTION REVENUES. THERE'S NO REAL CLARITY AROUND HOW THIS IS DRAFTED. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE EVALUATE WHATEVER WE DID IN 2013, IF IT IS CALLING FOR JUST AN ANNUAL FIXED INCREASE? I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND RECONSIDER THAT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN CONSIDERATION TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE SPENDING IN EXCESS OF $300,000 A YEAR. THANK YOU. >> CITY ATTORNEY, IS THIS AGREEMENT OR ARRANGEMENT, HOWEVER WE WANT TO PUT IT LEGAL? >> I DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME. OBVIOUSLY, IF THE CITY CAN PICK YOU BACK OF STATE CONTRACTS, AND PICKY BACK IS LEGAL IN FLORIDA. WITH RESPECT, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S BEEN A COST OF DEALING OVER THE YEARS BETWEEN THE CITY AND SHI, WHICH PAYMENTS HAS BEEN MADE PURSUANT TO SOME FORM OF CONTRACT. [01:20:04] I DON'T HAVE THAT CONTRACT, BUT IT'S BEEN APPROVED, BUDGETED. I'LL ASSUME THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION. JUST TO PARAPHRASE THE MANAGER, THERE'S PAYMENTS BEEN MADE THAT'S BEEN BUDGETED. ONLY ISSUE IS THE BUDGET AMOUNT HAS BEEN EXCEEDED AND THEY NEED COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR THAT AMOUNT. >> THAT WAS A REALLY LONG ANSWER TO A QUICK QUESTION. I JUST WANTED, YES, AS YOU ARE THE CITY ATTORNEY, THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE THREE-YEAR CONTRACT THAT WE ARE UNDER THAT ENDS AT THE END OF OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING LEGAL, CORRECT? >> FROM A STANDPOINT? YES. >> GOOD, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAY YES, WE HAVE A REALLY BIG PROBLEM, DON'T YOU THINK? >> THE MANAGER, IF IT WASN'T PRESENTED TO ME, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A RESPONSE, BUT BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE IT DIRECTOR INDICATED IT WAS A PIGGY-BACK CONTRACT AND WHICH WAS THEY OPERATED UNDER AND PIGGY-BACK IS LEGAL. >> MR. TWIGGER. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS NUNG PROTON BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY FOR AT LEAST PART OF IT, THE 60,580, NOT TO MENTION WHATEVER ADDITIONAL MONIES WERE BEING ASKED FOR TO MAKE THIS APPROXIMATELY $8,000. WHAT HAPPENS? >> I WOULD IMAGINE THAT SHI WOULD EVENTUALLY SEND US TO COLLECTIONS CAUSE IT WOULD BE A BREACH OF THE MAKE SHEFF AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD APPROVED BACK IN 2022. >> YOU REALLY NEED TO SPEAK IN THE MIC. FOR THOSE REASONS NOT HEAR THEM, DON'T REPEAT IT. >> WHAT'S THAT? >> IT'S ON. >> IT'S ON. YES. >> A LITTLE TIRED, JUST GET A LITTLE CLOSER, DON'T BE SHY. >> I SAID THAT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD BE IN BREACH OF THE MICROSOFT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY BACK IN 2022, AND THAT EVENTUALLY SHI WOULD GO TO COLLECTIONS WITH US. >> THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN SOUTHWEST RANCHES, IS THAT WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW? >> IT IS, BUT IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY CITY COMMISSION AS WELL. >> YOU SAID THAT YOU DO REVIEW IT EVERY YEAR? >> IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES ON A MONTHLY BASIS. WE KEEP TRACK OF THE SERVICE RECORDS, HOW MUCH TIME WE SPENT WITH THEM, HOW MANY SERVICE CALLS WAS RECEIVED AND WHAT WE'VE DONE EXACTLY. WE LOOK AT THE HOURS SPENT, AND WE LOOK AT THE CHARGES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALIGNED. >> YOU ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE BEING REIMBURSED THE ACTUAL AMOUNT AND THEN POSSIBLY THEN SOME IN ORDER TO COVER COSTS AND EXPENSES IN TIME? >> IT'S ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT'S PERFORMANCE MEASURES. >> YEAH. WE HAVE ABOUT 10-15 SERVICE QUESTS AT MOST PER MONTH FROM SOUTHWEST RANCHES. THAT'S OUT OF ABOUT 600 OR SO SERVICE QUESTS WE GET PER MONTH OVERALL. >> THAT'S SEPARATE AND APART FROM WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> THAT'S SEPARATE APART FROM THIS, AND THEN THERE'S OTHER THINGS LIKE TRIP CHARGES OR OTHER SPECIAL PROJECTS THEY GET BILLED FOR, IF THERE WERE ANY, THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THIS. THEN WE ALSO DO THAT MONTHLY, BUT THEN WE REVIEW WHAT OUR ANNUAL FEES ARE WHEN WE RAISE THEM ABOUT SIX MONTHS BEFORE THAT HITS, SO WE CAN GIVE TIME IF WE NEED TO RAISE THEM TO MAKE THEM AWARE TOO, OR THE AGREEMENT GOES AWAY. >> SOUNDS GOOD. BASICALLY, THOUGH, FOR WHATEVER WE ARE CHARGING OR BEING CHARGED ON BEHALF OF SOUTHWEST RANCHES, BECAUSE IT'S THEIR 20 COMPUTERS, THEY'RE PAYING FOR? THEY'RE PAYING THE HARD COSTS? >> IT GETS BILLED BACK TO THEM AT A 15% MARKUP. >> THE REASON WE'RE SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE IS BECAUSE WE'RE SO MUCH LARGER? >> YES. >> THEN SOME OF OUR SECURITY ITEMS GO INTO THE CLOUD AND ALL THESE ITEMS? >> YES. >> EVERYTHING WHEN WE'RE EXPANDING OUR WI-FI INTO PARKS AND WHEN WE'RE EXPANDING OUR ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FOR OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS AND ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, DOES IT GO INTO THESE? >> NOT THE WI-FI AND LICENSE PLATE READERS. BUT A LOT OF STUFF DOES LEVERAGE CLOUD SERVICES. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. >> MISS CAJUSTE. >> CHRISTINE CAJUSTE, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. CITY MANAGER. >> YES. >> WHAT MAKES WHAT MAKES A VENDOR UNIQUE? >> WHAT MAKES A VENDOR UNIQUE? >> RECLAIMING MY TIME? >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> LIKE THIS WHOLE SERVICE PROVIDER? >> I ASKED A QUESTION. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. >> WHAT MAKES A VENDOR UNIQUE? AN EIN, THE NAME OF A BUSINESS, WHAT MAKES THEM UNIQUE? >> I GUESS THEIR NAME AND THEIR EIN WOULD MAKE THEM UNIQUE OR IF THEY PROVIDE JUST ONE PRODUCT THAT NO ONE ELSE PROVIDE OR A SERVICE THAT NO ONE ELSE PROVIDE, [01:25:02] THEN THAT WOULD MAKE THEM UNIQUE. >> I HAVE A BOTTLE OF WATER FROM NESTLE, AND THE CITY WANTS TO DO BUSINESS WITH NESTLE. NESTLE SAYS, I CAN'T ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS GO TO WALMART OR YOU CAN GO TO SAM'S CLUB. THE CITY DECIDES TO GO TO WALMART OR SAM'S CLUB. YOU'RE GOING TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH NESTLE OR WALMART? >> WALMART. >> OKAY. IF YOU'RE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH WALMART, IT'S GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE PROCUREMENT CODE THAT YOU HAVE? >> YES. >> IT'S GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THE $65,000 SPENDING THRESHOLD? >> YES. >> HOW IS THIS SCENARIO WITH SHI SET DIFFERENT FROM WALMART? EDUCATE ME. >> WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS AGREEMENT IS THAT THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED THE AGREEMENT WITH SHI IN THE AMOUNT OF $62,101.36. >> I THOUGHT WE SAID THAT THERE'S NO AGREEMENT? >> YES. IT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION IN 2022. >> OKAY. >> YES. BUT A PART OF THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER SERVICES THAT THIS VENDOR PROVIDES FOR THE CITY. NOW, THESE SERVICES ARE SMALL SERVICES THAT DOESN'T MEET THE THRESHOLD TO COME TO THE COMMISSION. HOWEVER, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT AT THE END OF THE PERIOD, WE FIND THAT ALL THESE SMALLER SERVICES, SEPARATE FROM THAT AGREEMENT ADDS UP TO OVER $65,000. >> NO. YOUR RULE IS NOT TO BRING ITEMS THAT ACCUMULATE OVER TIME. YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS THE MINUTE IT HITS $65,000.01, THAT'S WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY COMMISSION? >> YES. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED HERE. >> YES. ISN'T THAT WHAT HAPPENED JIM? >> LOOK, VERY HONESTY, IN OUR OPINION FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS HAS BEEN THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVES THE MICROSOFT ENTERPRISE AGREEMENT, WHICH REQUIRES THOSE TRUE UP PAYMENTS TO BE MADE. WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO OVER THE PAST, I THINK A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO IS HONESTLY BE MORE TRANSPARENT. WHEN THESE SITUATIONS DO OCCUR, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION ALREADY, JUST TO BRING IT OUT THERE FOR THE AGGREGATE SPEND, YOU SEE THAT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO DO. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S THOSE PAYMENTS, SHI TO MICROSOFT, JUST THEM PLUS THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE THROUGH SHI. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PRESENT THAT FOR TRANSPARENCY SAKE, EVEN THOUGH THESE WERE REALLY ALREADY APPROVED. >> TRANSPARENCY. CITY CLERK, CAN YOU ADMIT THE BACKUP THAT YOU WALKED ON INTO THE RECORD? >> YES. ADD ON WHAT JIM SAID. >> CITY CLERK. >> COMMISSIONER, I DID PROVIDE EACH COMMISSION MEMBER WITH A PRINTOUT, I BELIEVE BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. CAJUSTE, IS THAT IS A LIST OF PAYMENT TO SHI FOR I BELIEVE THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. >> YEAH. WE RECEIVED IT BUT I'M JUST SAYING TO FORMALLY ADMIT IT INTO THE RECORD. >> ACCEPT IT INTO THE RECORD. >> MANAGER, HOW ARE ITEMS ROUTED TO YOUR OFFICE? LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THIS ITEM? COMES FROM FINANCE, AND THEN COMES TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE? >> IT GOES THROUGH A ROUTING PROCESS FROM THE ORIGINATING DEPARTMENT, THROUGH FINANCE, BUDGET, RISK, AND ASSISTANT OR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, AND THEN COMES TO MY OFFICE, YES. >> ALL ITEMS OR JUST THIS ONE? >> ALL ITEMS. >> WHEN IT GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, DOES IT ONLY GO TO MAXINE, OR DOES IT GO TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE? >> IT IT REACHES DEPUTY CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AT THAT POINT, IF IF SHE'S NOT IN, THEN OTHERS MAY MAY SEE IT. BUT LIKE WHO'S AUTHORIZED TO SEE? I BELIEVE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF IS ALLOWED TO SEE IT, SEE THOSE ITEMS. I I WE CAN LOOK AT THE SYSTEM AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHO HAS ACCESS, BUT THOSE ITEMS ARE WOULD HAVE WOULD IT HAVE A FOOTPRINT OF WHO SEES IT? >> YES. >> EVERY ITEM? >> EVERY ITEM. >> I CAN DO A RECORDS REQUEST TO SEE WHO SAW AN ITEM AT WHAT POINT? >> YES. IT'S DATE AND TIMESTAMP. >> DATE AND TIMESTAMP. [01:30:01] >> CITY MANAGER, IF I MAY. WHEN THE ITEMS ARE ROUTED THROUGH THE AGENDA, IT DEPENDS ON THE ROUTING THAT IS SELECTED, HOWEVER, FOR OUR STAND STANDARDIZED ROUTING. IT GOES THROUGH PURCHASING IF IT HAS A CONTRACT, AND THEN IT GOES TO RISK TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. IT STARTS AT THE DEPARTMENT, THEN IT GOES TO PURCHASING IF THERE IS A CONTRACT. >> THEN FINANCE. FINANCE, RISK, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WHICH IS OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, THEN OUR CITY ATTORNEY, OR CITY MANAGER, AND THEN IT IS PRINTED IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. ON THAT ROUTING, THE ONLY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ON THERE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ALLOWED TO. WE ADD ON THE ROUTING. WHEN IT GOES TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ON THAT STEP, IT WOULD BE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER CALLOWAY, AS WELL AS SHAWN AS HER ASSISTANT. >> IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS EITHER MS. CALLOWAY OR SHAWN. >> THEN IT GOES TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER, AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, WHICH IS VANESSA. VANESSA CANNOT APPROVE NOR SHAWN. THEY CAN'T APPROVE ITEMS, BUT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE THE ITEM. >> WHAT ABOUT TONYA? >> TONYA IS NOT A PART OF THE ROUTING. >> ONLY MS. CALLOWAY AND SHAWN,. >> LAVEND AND VANESSA. >> WHEN IT COMES TO YOU NEED YOU SAID DEPUTY C. >> ON THE ROUTING FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. IT'S MS. CALLOWAY, AS WELL AS SHAWN. >> GOT IT. FOR THE RECORD, TELL US WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO AND ADD THE AMOUNT THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? >> YES, SIR. >> NEXT SLIDE. >> I WAS ON THE SLIDES OF HERE. YEAH, WE NEED TO RATIFY THE $74,742.02. THEN THERE'S ALSO AN INVOICE THAT WE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO IN THE AMOUNT OF $6,580.68. THAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED. THEN HONESTLY, I WOULD ASK THAT WE ALSO AUTHORIZE ANOTHER $8,000 FOR ADDITIONAL INVOICES THAT WE MIGHT GET FOR FY25 CHARGES BECAUSE, LIKE TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, I GOT YET ANOTHER TRUE UP INVOICE FROM SHI AND THE AMOUNT OF THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. >> YOU GOT MORE INVOICES. >> ONE TODAY, AND I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF I GOT ONE FOR SEPTEMBER. >> ADD THAT AND TELL US. >> PARDON ME. >> ADD THE COST, ALL OF THAT. >> ABOUT $90,000 JIM. >> WELL, $90,000 WOULD BE ENOUGH, BUT WHAT IS 74? YES. THAT'S 181 PLUS ANOTHER NINE. 90,000 WOULD BE FINE. 90,000 WOULD COVER EVERYTHING PLUS ANY ADDITIONAL INVOICES. >> THIS IS NOT A QUESTION. PLEASE STOP MY CLOCK. I'M ADDRESSING THE MAYOR. CAN WE ASK FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF $90,000 AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. WHEN YOU DO THAT, I'M GOING TO THEN ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY A QUESTION TO FINISH 12 SECONDS. >> I'M PLANNING ON DOING THAT ONCE YOU FINISH YOUR 12 SECONDS. >> WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR 12 SECONDS, I HEAR THAT. >> ASSUMING ATTORNEY, WE CHANGED THE AMOUNT TO $90,000. ON THE RECORD, TELL ME THAT THIS IS LEGAL AND IT'S OKAY TO VOTE, YES. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> MISS CAJUSTE, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING EARLIER, AND YOU DID NOT GET TO FINISH YOUR SENTENCE. DO YOU WISH TO? >> NO. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CITY CLERK BE ON STANDBY. COMMISSIONER BOLTON, DO YOU ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OF RAISING THIS PRICE TO BEING $90,000? >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR DANIEL, DO YOU SECOND THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IT'S LEGAL ACCORDING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> MAYOR GOMEZ? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR DANIEL? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLTON? >> YES. >> MOTION PASSES 5-0 AS AMENDED. >> YOU PREPARED THIS ITEM, MISS CAJUSTE? >> NO MORE. WE'RE DONE. WE'RE MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE GOING ON TO ORDINANCES ON 2ND READING 8A TO22602. [8.a TO2602 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida amending Chapter 14, “Motor Vehicles and Traffic”, Article ii, “Stopping, Standing and Parking”, Section 14-26, “Parking Restrictions—Public Rights-Of-Way”, to provide for a community driven mechanism to manage parking restrictions and enforcement in public rights-of-way citywide; and amending Section 14-37 entitled “Parking Violation Enforcement” to provide for a public education period prior to administration and enforcement of the ordinance and the on-street parking policy ; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; providing for codification; and providing for an effective date.] CITY ATTORNEY, READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> ITEM 8A, ORDINANCE OF CITY COMMISSION CITY OF TAMARAC RECOMMENDING CHAPTER 14, MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC, ARTICLE 2, STOPPING STANDING IN PARKING, [01:35:02] SECTION 14-26, PARKING RESTRICTION, PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO PROVIDE FOR COMMUNITY DRIVEN MECHANISM TO MANAGE PARKING RESTRICTION, ENFORCEMENT OF PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY CITYWIDE. AMENDING SECTION 14-37 ENTITLED PARKING VIOLATION ENFORCEMENT TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC EDUCATION PERIOD TO PROVIDE TO ADMINISTRATION ENFORCEMENT OF ORDINANCE, AND OFF STREET PARKING POLICY. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE. >> MOVE IT. >> SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. MS. CALLOWAY, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IS HERE TO PROVIDE UPDATE ON THE CHANGES REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION, AND THEN SOME. PLEASE PROCEED. >> THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MAXINE CALLOWAY, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. I JUST HAVE TWO SLIDES FOR YOU, JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE SINCE THE FIRST READING. WE WERE ASKED TO ADD A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH WE DID. THE LIST OF NEIGHBORHOODS NOW WITH PARKING RESTRICTION OR NO ON-STREET PARKING OR ENFORCEMENT OF ON-STREET PARKING IS LISTED ON THIS SCREEN. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE A CHANGE RELATIVE TO ADD IN BOTH END ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS IN THE POLICY, THE ABILITY OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION BY A MAJORITY VOTE TO ADD OR REMOVE NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE LIST. WE HAVE DONE THAT BOTH END ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS IN THE PARKING POLICY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE JUST WANTED THE POLICY TO BE CLEAR THAT THE CITY MANAGER DESIGNEE HAD THE ABILITY TO MANAGE SIGNAGE, AS WELL AS THE DECAL PROGRAM OR WELL AS AN APPLICATION PROCESS. THE PROGRAM CAN SOMEWHAT PAY FOR ITSELF. THE MANAGER DESIGNEES ABLE TO ASSIGN FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IF HE SO CHOOSES. THEN LASTLY, WE WERE ASKED TO ADD A PARKING DECAL PROGRAM IN THE EVENT. THERE IS ON STREET PARKING THAT'S BEING ENFORCED, AND THERE'S A VISITOR THAT'S COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'D LIKE TO PARK ON THE STREET, THAT DECAL IS ACQUIRED THROUGH THE CITY, AND WE ARE AWARE THAT PARKING IS TAKEN PLACE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT PROGRAM. THOSE WERE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE SINCE FIRST READING. >> THANK YOU. I'LL NOW OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. THIS IS NOW OPEN TO THE COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. >> TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE DECAL PROGRAM. >> IF ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT'S ON THE LIST WHERE PARKING IS BEING ENFORCED ON-STREET PARKING, IF THERE IS A NEED FOR A VISITOR OR SOMEONE TO PARK ON THAT STREET IN A TEMPORARY BASIS. SOMEONE COMES IN, MAYBE SOMEONE FROM COLLEGE WHO IS VISITING. THERE'S NO PARKING THAT IS PERMISSIBLE. IT WOULD ALLOW THAT INDIVIDUAL TO GET A TEMPORARY DECAL FROM THE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE TO BE PLACED ON YOUR VEHICLE, SO WE KNOW YOU'RE ABLE TO PARK ON THE STREET TEMPORARILY. >> ASSUMING THERE'S A STREET WITH 30 PEOPLE, 30 HOUSES AND OVER THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY, ALL THE GRANDCHILDREN COMES FROM BOSTON AND SPAIN AND THE VIRGIN ISLANDS AND HAITI AND JAMAICA. THE 30 PEOPLE WANT TO PARK ON THE STREET. THEY COME TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THE ZONING PARKING ENFORCEMENT. THEY GET A PARKING DECAL AND FOR TWO WEEKS IN CHRISTMAS, FIRE TRUCKS CANNOT GET THROUGH? BECAUSE EVERYBODY PARKS ON THE STREET, AND IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL. >> NO, IT WOULDN'T BE, COMMISSIONER. I THINK WE WOULD ASSESS WHO A DECAL IS GIVEN TO. WE DETERMINE THE WIDTH, THE NATURE OF THE STREET, BECAUSE IN THE ORDINANCE, IT ALSO SAYS THAT NO BLOCKING OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN OCCUR. I'M CERTAIN WE WOULD NOT BE GIVEN OUT 30 DECALS THAT WOULD BLOCK THE STREETS AND NOT ALLOW THE PASSAGE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES. >> BUT WHAT'S THE SAFEGUARD FOR, MY NEIGHBOR GOT A PARKING DECAL, AND HERE YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT I CAN'T GET A DECAL. >> YEAH. IT'S JUST BASED ON FIRST COME FIRST AVAILABLE AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S APPROPRIATE ON THE STREET? >> IS THAT WRITTEN IN THE POLICY? >> FIRST COME FIRST AVAILABLE? IT'S AT THE DISCRETION. THE DISCRETION IS WRITTEN IN THE POLICY, YES. WOULD CONDUCT THE ASSESSMENT, MAKE SURE IT'S VIABLE FOR THAT TO OCCUR TO ISSUE THE DECAL. IT WAS AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, AND I BELIEVE CONSENSUS WAS ACHIEVED SO WE INCLUDED IT. [01:40:02] >> NO PROBLEM.. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. TO THAT SAME POINT, I DID WANT TO JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES RELATIVE TO THAT SAME POINT. WHILE I DO AGREE THROUGH THE MANAGER, MS. CALLOWAY, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXCEPTION FOR FOLKS THAT YOU DO NEED TO BE ABLE TO PARK FROM TIME TO TIME, I THINK THE PROVISION CURRENTLY STATES THAT THE DECAL IS VALID FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS. I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO REVISE THAT. IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE SHORT OF TERM IN NATURE. >> DID YOU SAY UP TO? >> HERE IT SAYS DECAL SHALL BE VALID FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS, ACCORDING TO THE PROVISION THAT YOU GUYS JUST PROVIDED. THEN ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S ANOTHER PLACE HERE WHERE IT SAYS UP TO TWO DECALS MAY BE ISSUED. TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT, I DO THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO RECONSIDER THAT. OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR SOME ACCESS AND CONSIDERATION AROUND ADDITIONAL VEHICLES WHEN NEEDED. ESPECIALLY I THINK MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION FOR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAYBE CAN'T SUPPORT TWO ON-STREET CARS. I THINK THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE ANOTHER VARIABLE THAT WE JUST EVALUATE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AS TO ESSENTIALLY NOT CONGEST THE STREETS AND FIND OURSELVES BACK AT THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE WHOLE POLICY IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEN I THINK THE LAST COMMENT I HAD, PERHAPS ONE SECOND. I GUESS MY THOUGHT WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS EARLIER WAS THERE COULD BE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO DELINEATE SHORT TERM BASIS VERSUS A HOME THAT HAS A THIRD VEHICLE OR A COLLEGE KID THAT LIVES AT HOME, MAYBE, WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCE IS, AND THEY NEED TO PARK ON THE STREET. ARE WE SAYING THAT IF YOU HAVE THREE CARS, YOU CAN GET AN EXCEPTION TO PARK WITH A DECAL ON A LONG TERM BASIS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S PROBABLY HOW YOU GUYS DRAFTED THIS THAT THERE IS A CONSIDERATION FOR SOMEONE THAT HAS AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE AND SPACE IS NOT READILY AVAILABLE ON THE PROPERTY, SO YOU CAN GET A LONG TERM PARKING PASS. >> THAT WAS NOT A CONSIDERATION, WHICH IS WHY WE CALL IT TEMPORARY, AND WE SAID WE'RE MISSING THE WORD UP TO 12 MONTHS, BUT IT'S MEANT TO BE TEMPORARY IN NATURE. FOR VISITATION, THAT'S HOW WE UNDERSTOOD THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED ON FIRST READING. >> YEAH. WELL, IT SAYS VALID FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS AND MUST BE RENEWED ANNUALLY THROUGH REAPPLICATION AND VERIFICATION OF RESIDENCY. IF I READ THAT AND I HAVE FOUR CARS, THIS TELLS ME I CAN COME TO THE CITY AND COME GET A DECAL AND PARK ON A LONG TERM BASIS AND JUST GET A NEW DECAL ONCE A YEAR. I WANT TO JUST RAISE THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU WERE RESPONDING TO THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY DRAFTED. I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO JUST GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PERMANENT AND LONG TERM. NONE OF MY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ON THE LIST, SO THAT WOULD DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES ON WHAT THEIR PREFERENCE WOULD BE AROUND THAT PROVISION, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO JUST DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE TWO. THANK YOU. >> WE'LL MAKE THE CHANGES TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S MEANT TO BE TEMPORARY IN NATURE FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME THAN 12 MONTHS. >> I'LL JUST GO AND ORDER. I DON'T LIKE SECTION 2 A4. HAVING IT ON THE STREET RESTRICTIONS MAY BE IMPOSED OR LIFTED AS DETERMINED BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION. I THINK IT OPENS UP TO POLITICS. IF A COMMUNITY COMES TO US WITH THEIR 55 PETITION, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOWED, WHETHER THEY WANT TO REMOVE IT OR TAKE IT. BRINGING IT TO US TO THEN SAY, HEY, I FEEL LIKE REMOVING THIS COMMUNITY, DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THEM GO OUT AND DO THINGS. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. I REALLY STILL BELIEVE THAT IF A COMMUNITY WITHIN, SAY, SIX MONTHS OF THIS ITEM COMES FORWARD AND SAYS, MY RULES SAY IN MY COMMUNITY THAT WE DON'T ALLOW PARKING, THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE INCLUDED ON THE NO PARKING OR PARKING. WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE WITH YOU? THOSE JUST ALREADY GET ASSUMED IN? THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE FOR NO PARKING BEING ENFORCED. [01:45:05] >> YES. THERE'S A FEW AGREEMENTS. I THINK SEVEN OR EIGHT THAT THE CITY COMMISSION HAS APPROVED THAT HAS ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITY. WE WOULD HONOR THOSE AGREEMENTS. >> THEY'VE COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION? >> YES. >> WE HAVE ON SECTION 3D. THERE'S A SIX-MONTH PERIOD OF PUBLIC EDUCATION. ARE WE STILL PLANNING ON ANOTHER SIX MONTHS OF PUBLIC EDUCATION ON THIS? >> THAT WAS OUR INTENT, UNLESS THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE. >> WE CONTINUALLY DO SIX MONTHS OF EDUCATION, NON-ENFORCEMENT, AND WE CONTINUALLY CHANGE THE RULES OF THE ROAD ALMOST EVERY SIX MONTHS, SO WE NEVER REALLY ENFORCE ANYTHING. I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES REGARDING THE DECAL PROGRAM. I'M SORRY. I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE WE AGREED TO THIS TO BE CREATED NOW AND PUT IN. IT WAS MAYBE A THOUGHT TO BE DISCUSSED, BUT NOT AS LET'S ADD IT IN AS IT WAS AN APPROVED ITEM FOR ALL OF US. THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY OR THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO SAY WHAT'S APPROVED, WHAT ABOUT THE HOA AND COAS? IF THEY HAVE RULES AGAINST THIS, WE'RE GOING TO OVERRIDE THEM AND GIVE THEM DECALS? WE ARE SAYING THAT IT'S IN PLACE AND NOT TO PARK. BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN DOES NOT GIVE ANY DEFERENCE TO AN ASSOCIATION THAT MAY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT SAYS NOT TO. IF IT'S AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR ENFORCEMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. ALSO, IT DOES SAY UP TO TWO DECALS, IT DOES SEEM VERY OPEN FOR HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ENFORCED. THE DECALS TO BE VALID FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS. MUST BE RENEWED, DOES LEAVE IT VERY WIDE OPEN, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN JUST SAY TO ANY ASSOCIATION THAT IS 55 PLUS PEOPLE SAYING, DON'T DO THIS, THE CITY JUST ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN. >> MAYOR, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE SOME CHANGES AS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMISSIONER. >> WHY SHOULD THIS DECAL PROGRAM BE PUT IN HERE NOW FOR VOTING? WHY SHOULD THIS DECAL PROGRAM BE BROUGHT BACK WHEN IT CAN BE FULLY DISCUSSED AT ANOTHER TIME? BECAUSE IT ALSO HAS REAPPLICATION, VERIFICATION OF RESIDENCIES. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON BROUGHT UP GOOD POINTS IF IT'S JUST A CHILD WHO'S NOW LIVING AT HOME. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN BRAINSTORMED THROUGH THIS TO MAKE THIS FULLY BAKED, AS YOU KNOW, I LIKE MY CAKES BAKED AND I'M NOT COMFORTABLE. >> NOW IT'S A POLICY SO WE CAN TAKE THE DIRECTION. >> BLESS YOU. SNEEZING AT THE TRUTH AS GRANDMA WOULD SAY. IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE FULL IMPART RIGHT NOW OF BEING ABLE TO THINK THIS THROUGH BY MAKING CHANGES ON THE FLY. MAKING CHANGES ON THE FLY, I THINK IS WHAT LED TO SOME OF THIS. I PERSONALLY CAN'T SUPPORT THE DECAL PROGRAM AS IT IS WRITTEN. ALSO, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR TAMARAC LAKES 1 AND 2 AND MAINLAND 5 AND 6, AND I DO NOT SEE THEM IN HERE. >> I'M SORRY. TAMARAC? >> LAKES 1 AND 2 AND MAINLANDS 5 AND 6. SEE, NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. CITY CLERK. NO, THERE WASN'T UNTIL YOU JUST PRESSED IT. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. GO AHEAD. GET ON THE BALL THERE BUDDY. IT'S 9:15. YOU NEED A BREAK? >> THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION FOR MAINLAND 6, AND THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION FOR TAMARAC LAKES 1 AND 2. WE DID SAY AT THE LAST MEETING TO CHANGE TAMARAC LAKE NORTH TO TAMARAC LAKE SOUTH. THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED ON. SECONDLY, THE DECAL PROGRAM IS GREAT, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD NOT BE 12 MONTHS. IT SHOULD BE SEASONAL. CAN YOU STOP MY TIME, KIM, MADAM CLERK? I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. >> AREN'T YOU TALKING? >> YOU GOT IT, MS. CALLOWAY. >> I APOLOGIZE. >> I'M JUST GIVING IDEAS FOR YOU TO GET CONSENSUS FOR. YOU GOT THAT PART. >> AM I WAITING FOR CONSENSUS ON TAMARAC LAKES 1 AND 2 AND MAINLANDS 5 AND 6? >> IT'S NOT AT CONSIDERATION. IT'S NOT IN THE LIST. >> WELL, GO AHEAD. LET HIM FINISH. >> WHAT ELSE, MS. CALLOWAY? >> THEN THE CHANGES FOR THE DECAL PROGRAM, [01:50:03] IF I CAN GET SOME DIRECTION, IF THAT'S A DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. >> ALSO, THE IDEA OF THE MAJORITY COMMISSION WAS A CONSIDERATION AT THE LAST MEETING. WE ALREADY GOT CONSENSUS FOR THAT. BUT THE SIGNATURES, ISN'T THAT IN TANDEM WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION? >> THAT WAS NOT THE UNDERSTANDING. YOU CAN BE ADDED TO THE LIST. >> I'M SAYING YOU CAN BE ADDED TO THE LIST OR LIFTED FROM THE LIST BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION OR THE PETITIONS. >> YES. THE PETITION WAS ALREADY THERE. >> IT WAS NOT TAKEN OUT? >> THE PETITION IS ALREADY THERE. YOU CAN BE ADDED WITH 55%. YOU CAN REMOVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH 55%. THEN AT THE LAST MEETING, THE REQUEST WAS MADE, OR YOU CAN BE ADDED OR REMOVED BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION. >> IT'S OR. THE SAFEGUARD IS ALREADY THERE SO IT'S NOT POLITICAL. >> THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS AVAILABLE, YES. >> HOW DOES IT BECOME POLITICAL IF A COMMUNITY OF ELDERS, ELDERLY COMMUNITY, OF 60 PLUS, 55 PLUS COMMUNITY, THEY CAN'T WALK, SOME OF THEM CAN'T COME OUT OF THEIR HOUSE, BUT THEY HAVE THIS ISSUE IN THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THEY CALL THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, MEMBER OF GREENHAVEN, LET'S SAY, CALL THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. CAN YOU PLEASE? THEY'RE PARKING ON THE STREET, THAT STUFF, AND I LOVE THE RESIDENTS OF GREENHAVEN. I KNOCKED ON ALL OF THEIR DOORS THREE TIMES. WHY CAN'T THEY BRING IT UP TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVE AND WHY CAN'T THAT REPRESENTATIVE BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR MAJORITY VOTE? HOW'S THAT POLITICAL? OR PINE? I'M ASKING FOR YOUR OPINION. >> SHE'S NOT THE ONE WHO GAVE THE OPINION IT WAS ME. >> YEAH. I'M ASKING YOU IF YOU CAME TO PINE, DO YOU THINK IT'S POLITICAL OR NOT? OR DO YOU THINK IT'S GOOD POLICY? >> COMMISSIONER, THE ITEM, AS YOU SAID, RECEIVED CONSENSUS THE LAST TIME, WHEN IT WAS VOTED ON, AND WE INCLUDED IT IN THE POLICY, AS SUCH. >> VERY WELL. >> THANK YOU, MS. CALLOWAY. ESQUIRE. I APPRECIATE YOU. THAT'S IT. >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I SEE GREENHAVEN SUNSET, SO THOSE ADDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE DECAL PROGRAM UP TO 12 MONTHS. GOING TO COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S POINT AND COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S POINT, SHOULDN'T IT BE AN OPTION FOR LONG TERM RESIDENTS AND GUEST RESIDENTS? WHAT IF SOMEONE VISITING FOR A SHORT TIME? HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE ADMINISTERED? SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES, YOU CAN GIVE A DECAL UP TO 14 DAYS. YOU CAN PUT IT IN EVERY OTHER DAY OR WHATEVER, BUT IT EQUATES LIKE 14 DAYS. HOW WOULD THAT DECAL PROGRAM WORK FOR LONG TERM RESIDENTS AND FOR SHORT TERM GUESTS? >> WELL, WHAT WE HEARD AT THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS MEANT TO BE TEMPORARY. I DO AGREE PERHAPS 12 MONTHS IS A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH, SO WE CAN DO UP TO SIX MONTHS. WE CAN DO UP TO ONE MONTH FOR RENEWAL OPTION. WE CAN CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN THAT. IF THERE'S NO ON-STREET PARKING, I THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN THAT WAY AND PERHAPS NOT HAVE A PERMANENT OPTION AVAILABLE SINCE THE COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THEY WANT ON-STREET PARKING ENFORCED. THEN TO HAVE A PERMANENT OPTION I THINK MIGHT CREATE ISSUES. IF THAT COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY DESIGNATED AND SAID THEY WANT NO ON-STREET PARKING, I THINK A TEMPORARY SOLUTION IS SOMETHING THAT'S A BIT MORE VIABLE BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE VISITORS, PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN, BUT TO HAVE PARKING BE PERMANENT IS SOMEWHAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THE COMMUNITY ALREADY ASKING FOR NO ON-STREET PARKING TO BE PERMISSIBLE. NOW WE HAVE A PERMANENT SOLUTION. IT'S JUST PILING ANYWAYS. >> IT'S UP TO TWO CARS? UP TO HOW MANY CARS PER IS TWO? >> YES. I THINK THE COMMISSIONER POINTED THAT OUT, SO WE'LL MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THAT. WE CAN ADJUST THAT TO ONE CAR PER HOUSEHOLD FIRST COME FIRST SERVE AS AVAILABLE AND PUT SOME LANGUAGE SO IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S DISCRETIONARY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S STILL NO BLOCKING OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES. >> WHAT IF PEOPLE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN FOR THE HOLIDAY SEASON, AND IT'S MORE THAN ONE FAMILY MEMBER? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE LEEWAY IN THAT? >> YEAH. IF YOU'RE DOING A PARTY, AND I THINK THIS COMMISSION DISCUSSED THAT IF YOU'RE HAVING AN EVENT, AND YOU'RE DOING A PARTY, AND IT'S SOMETHING FOR THAT NIGHT. [01:55:03] >> I'M ASKING A PARTY SAY YOU HAVE A HOLIDAY GET TOGETHER AND YOUR COUSIN FROM ATLANTA, COUSIN FROM NEW YORK, COUSIN FROM NORTH CAROLINA DRIVES DOWN AND THEY'RE STAYING AT THE HOUSE FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALL PARKED ON THE STREET. IF IT'S ONLY TWO CARS, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAR, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? >> ONLY TWO. THEY WOULD HAVE TO CAR POOL. I THINK IF WE WRITE THE POLICY TO ALLOW ONE DECAL PER HOUSEHOLD OR TO ALLOW TWO DECALS PER HOUSEHOLD, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE IMPLEMENTING. >> HERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS COULD BE POLITICAL. I REPRESENT THE WHOLE CITY. I HAVE COMMUNITIES OF TAMARAC LAKES 1 AND 2, WHO SAID THEY WANT IT. MAINLANDS 5, WHO ALREADY HAS NO ON-THE-STREET PARKING NOW, AND 6. I WANT THEM IN. THEY SHOULD BE IN, BUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY SAYING THEY SHOULDN'T. TELL ME THAT'S NOT POLITICAL. WE HAVE A DILEMMA RIGHT AWAY, DON'T WE? I THINK THAT IT CAUSES A PROBLEM IF WE ARE SAYING THESE COMMUNITIES ALREADY HAVE NO PARKING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND WHETHER IT'S ENFORCED OR NOT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM IN OUR CITY, HENCE THE REASON FOR US DISCUSSING THIS FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS OF TRYING TO GET A POLICY TOGETHER FOR WE CAN HAVE ENFORCEMENT AND PEOPLE CANNOT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE THEIR ROADS OR BE BLOCKED OR NOT HAVE A PLACE TO PARK OR NOT REALIZE THAT THEY ONLY BOUGHT A HOUSE THAT ONLY HAS ONE PARKING SPOT AND ONE DRIVEWAY. THESE ARE THE ISSUES WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO RESOLVE FOR SO LONG. THAT'S WHY THEY WANT ENFORCEMENT, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'VE COME TO YOU AND ASKED, CAN I HAVE AN AGREEMENT? SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES HAVE ASKED YOU FOR AGREEMENTS FOR THEM, THEY'VE STILL YET TO RECEIVE. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING THEM NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AGREEMENT PROCESS BY GRANDFATHERING THEM IN. MAYBE INSTEAD OF ALL THESE DECALS, WE JUST HAVE A SPECIAL DURING HOLIDAYS AND LISTS ON HOLIDAYS AND SAY DURING THESE TIME PERIODS. PARKING WILL NOT BE ENFORCED, WHICH WAS THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM BECAUSE THAT WAS A PROBLEM. WE'RE SOLVING SOME THINGS. WE'RE NOT SOLVING OTHERS. IT COMES FROM WHEN WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO FULLY WORKSHOP SOME ITEMS TOGETHER, AND WE JUST PUT IT ON THE DAYS AND ASKED YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SAUSAGE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE. I STILL SAY TAMARAC LAKES 1 AND 2, MAINLANDS 5 AND 6. SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS BEING CALLED FOR. >> THERE WAS A CONSENSUS ON THE SEASONAL VERSUS YEAR. ARE WE KEEPING IT? >> IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THEN PLEASE MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. WE'VE GOT COMMISSIONER BOLTON WHO IS THE ONE WHO MADE THE MOTION, AND YOU MADE THE SECOND. WHAT IS YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? >> I MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO, I DON'T KNOW. FOR SECTION 3, THAT WE PROVIDE FOR A TEMPORARY DECAL WITH OPTION TO RENEW UP TO SIX MONTHS. >> OR MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A TEMPORARY DECAL THAT IS SEASONAL, THAT CANNOT LAST MORE THAN 14 DAYS PER MONTH. >> I RATHER TO SAY ACTUALLY. SURPRISINGLY, RIGHT? >> I THINK THAT'S NOT BAD, BUT I THINK IT JUST WOULD BECOME DIFFICULT ON STAFF TO MANAGE IT. THE 14 I KNOW I PROBABLY AGREE WITH IT. >> COMMISSIONER, RESPECTFULLY, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAVE ON-STREET PARKING ISSUES. BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE HAVE ON STREET PARKING ISSUES BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE OR ONE OR TWO OR THREE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE HOUSE THAT'S CAUSING THE ISSUE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A PARKING DECAL FOR SIX MONTHS, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY LEGALIZING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUSING THE PROBLEM TO PARK ON THE STREET. I'M SAYING IF WE WANT TO GIVE THEM SOME RELIEF, THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PARK ON THE STREET FOR MORE THAN A 14 DAY PERIOD WITHIN A MONTH. [02:00:01] BECAUSE THEN YOU TAKE THEM OFF THE STREET. NOW THEY CAN'T LIVE THERE PERMANENTLY, THEY NOW HAVE TO LIVE THERE TEMPORARILY. FOR THE OTHER HALF OF THE MONTH, THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT NOW MEANS YOU ARE GIVING A LEGAL RIGHT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING ON THE STREET TO PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY TEMPORARY AND NOT PERMANENT. BECAUSE IF YOU JUST SAY SIX MONTHS, THEN THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO PARK ON THE STREET FOR SIX STRAIGHT MONTHS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TELL THEIR NEIGHBORS, I HAVE A PERMIT. YOU CAN'T TELL ME TO MOVE FOR SIX MONTHS. THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? WE COME BACK TO THE SAME EXACT PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE. TO YOUR POINT, IT'S A GOOD PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO PUT THE DECAL THERE, BUT WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS THAT WE'RE NOT LEGALIZING PEOPLE WHO ARE ILLEGAL IN THESE COMMUNITIES. THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE. A LEASING COMMUNITY WILL NOT GIVE YOU A PARKING PERMIT FOR MORE THAN 14 DAYS. THEY WILL NOT DO IT IN A SINGLE MONTH. THAT IS TO SAFEGUARD FROM SOMEBODY ILLEGALLY LIVING IN THE APARTMENT FROM STAYING THERE. ILLEGALLY LIVING IN THE APARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON THE LEASE. YOU'VE NOT RENTED IN A WHILE, SO YOU DON'T KNOW BUT THE RENTERS KNOW. >> DO WE WANT TO HAVE TWO PROVISIONS? ONE'S PROVIDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE. ARE WE SAYING WE WANT ONE PROVISION TO ALLOW FOR TEMPORARY PARKING NOT TO EXCEED 14 DAYS OR DO WE WANT TO ALLOW FOR THAT PLUS A PROVISION PROVIDING FOR AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE THAT CAN PARK FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD? >> FOR INSTANCE, HOW COMMUNITIES THAT ENFORCE THESE THINGS, UP TO TWO VEHICLES CANNOT PARK FOR MORE THAN 14 DAYS IN THE MONTH, PERIOD. BUT THESE ARE SMALL STREETS, SO WE CAN'T EVEN SAY TWO CARS. WE HAVE TO JUST SAY PROBABLY ONE CAR, NOT ABLE TO PARK THERE FOR MORE THAN 14 DAYS IN A ROLLING MONTH. >> PROCEDURALLY, WE ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF SCOPE. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MOTION SECOND OR NOT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS SHOULD BE TABLED FOR A WORKSHOP, INSTEAD OF CONTINUALLY GOING BACK AND FORTH. >> WELL, I THINK WE'RE THERE FOR THE LEGISLATION. IT'S ONLY THIS PIECE THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE ADMISSION [INAUDIBLE]. >> THAT'S A POLICY, AND THAT'S COMING FROM THE MANAGER OFFICE. >> AREN'T WE PASSING THE POLICY? >> EXACTLY. YOU HAVE THE POLICY ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE. >> THE POLICY CAN ALWAYS BE LIKE ANY OTHER POLICY AMENDED AS WE GO. >> THE POLICY IS BEING PASSED BY THE CITY COMMISSION SO IT CANNOT BE AMENDED BY THE CITY MANAGER. IF A POLICY IS PASSED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, IT CAN'T BE AMENDED ARBITRARILY BY THE CITY MANAGER. IF IT'S A CITY MANAGER'S POLICY, THEN SURE. BUT IT CAN'T BE APPROVED, THE COMMISSIONER CANNOT BE ARBITRATED CHANGED BY THE CITY MANAGER. >> HE WOULD OBVIOUSLY COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION IF ANY CHANGE. >> BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO COME BACK. >> WELL, LET ME JUST MAKE THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THEN. I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT UNDER SUBSECTION 3 OF THE DECAL PROVISION, THAT DECALS BE VALID FOR A PERIOD OF 14 DAYS, NOT TO EXCEED 14 DAYS. >> IN A CALENDAR MONTH. >> CALENDAR MONTH? >> YEAH. >> SHOULDN'T IT BE MORE THAN A CALENDAR MONTH BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY, OKAY, I'M JUST GOING TO WAIT FOR TWO WEEK TRIP OR I'VE GOT MY NEIGHBOR HAVING MY CAR THERE FOR A DECAL FOR THAT 14 DAYS. THEN BECAUSE WE HAVE IT FOR SO LONG, I COULD JUST SWITCH AND SWAP. WE KEEP SENDING IT OVER TO THE CITY COMMISSION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FINITE ON THERE THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE A PERSON VISIT, YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN THREE IN A CALENDAR YEAR. >> BECAUSE YOU'RE THINKING IN TERMS OF A PHYSICAL DECAL. WHAT APARTMENTS AND PEOPLE ARE DOING NOW IS HAVING PEOPLE REGISTER THE CARS ON AN APP. >> NO, I'M NOT ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THE DECAL OR THAT KIND OF PROCESS, I'M THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE AND THEIR CARS AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. HEY, WE'RE CLOSE. YOU'RE ONLY A FEW DOORS DOWN. WILL YOU PUT THIS CAR ON YOUR DECAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE A 14 DAYS? THEY'LL GO AWAY FOR THE WEEKEND, [02:05:01] THEN THEY COME BACK TO MY HOUSE FOR 14 DAYS. THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT HOUSES, AND THEY HAVE MORE THAN 14 DAYS. >> NO, BUT IT'S REGISTERED. >> YOU CAN TAMPER THAT BECAUSE THE LICENSE PATE IS GOING TO SEE THAT YOU WERE IN THERE FOR 14 YEARS, PROPERTY COMPLEX HAS A LICENSE PLATE. >> YEAH, BUT IN THIS CASE, THE DECAL IS REGISTERED TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE HOME OWNERS. >> IS IT REGISTERED THE HOME OR IS IT REGISTERED THE CAR? >> IT'S GOING TO BE REGISTERED TO THE HOME. >> EXACTLY. SO THAT CAR IS REGISTERED TO MY HOME, AND THEN IN 14 DAYS OR THE 15 DAYS IS GOING TO BE REGISTERED TO COMMISSIONER LISA. >> NO, YOU CAN'T. >> BUT WHY DO YOU SAY IT CAN'T? WE SAY IT CAN'T? WHERE DOES THE POLICY SAY WE CAN'T? THAT'S MY PROBLEM. THE POLICY IT SAYS IT'S NOT TRANSFERABLE. THE POLICY SAYS DECALS ARE NOT TRANSFERABLE. >> I'M GOING TO APPLY FOR A BRAND NEW DECAL UNDER SOMEBODY ELSE'S HOUSE. FINE, 4910 WOODLANDS, AND GUESS WHAT? THEN I'M SENDING HIM OVER 5729 BABER. >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO WEED OUT EVERY NUANCE IN THIS DISCUSSION. >> BUT MEANWHILE, WE'RE ALSO SUBJECTING IT TO THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ASKED FOR ENFORCEMENT, AND WE AS A COMMISSION, ARE OVERRIDING THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ASKED FOR ENFORCEMENT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS PROPER. >> NO, BUT, MAYOR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS POLICY PROVIDES FOR ENFORCEMENT. >> I THINK IT CANNOT BE PERFECT BECAUSE IT WILL NEVER BE PERFECT BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE SET STANDARD SITUATION, SO THIS HAS JUST GIVEN LEEWAY FOR THOSE IF THEY HAVE IN A CHRISTMAS PARTY, IF THEY HAVE THEIR KIDS COME OVER, IF THEY HAVE SOMEONE VISITING, WHICH REALLY, THEY MIGHT NOT BE REGISTERED TO THE HOUSE ANYWAY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE THERE. SO YOU HAVE TO GIVE LEEWAY, AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PARKING THING, THERE'S NO ONE SET PERFECT WAY. >> THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DISCUSSED THE DETAILS OF HOW TO MAKE IT ONE SET EASY WAY OR HAVING OPTIONS. THE THING IS WE DON'T HAVE OPTIONS, AND IT IS WIDE OPEN AS WRITTEN, EVEN IF WE KNOCK IT DOWN FOR 14 DAYS IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD OR A SIX MONTH PERIOD. IT IS STILL WIDE OPEN ON TWO CARS FOR THE HOUSEHOLDS. IT'S SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY, WHOSE AVAILABILITY? WHO'S DETERMINED THE AMOUNT OF CARS PER COMMUNITY THAT ARE ALLOWED? ARE WE GOING TO BE ENFORCED? THERE'S TOO MANY OPEN DOORS ON THIS THING TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THIS POLICY IS ENFORCEABLE, YOU SAY NO, ALL YOU WANT, MY OPINION IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RESTRICTION ON THIS EXCEPTION TO THE RESTRICTING OF PARKING ON THE ROADWAYS FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ASKED FOR IT. AND WE ARE THE ONES ASKING THE, SORRY, CITY STAFF TO MAKE THE DECISION ON OPENING THOSE EXCEPTIONS INSTEAD OF WHERE IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THOSE EXCEPTIONS, NOT US. IT'S AN OPINION. YOU HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR? DO YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? >> YES, JUST RESTATING THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. ONE CAR, 14 DAYS WITHIN 30 DAYS. >> THAT IS THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. >> I ACCEPT. ACCEPTS, OBVIOUSLY, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, SINCE YOU MADE THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, AND YOU'RE THE SECOND. YOU ACCEPT? >> YES. >> AT THIS POINT IN TIME, CITY CLERK CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. >> YES. >> VICE MAYOR DANIEL. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLTON? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? >> YES. >> MAYOR GOMEZ. >> NO. >> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ONE. >> EXCELLENT. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 9:34, AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO OUR LAST ITEM. [10.a TR14310 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, granting site plan approval (major) with conditions to allow for the development of the subject property, known as Woodmont Pod D, to permit the construction of eight (8) two (2) story townhouse buildings containing a total of fifty (50) dwelling units located on the southeast corner of N Pine Island Road and Southgate Boulevard (Case No. 6-SP-22); providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.] WE'RE UP TO A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. IT IS TATR 14310. CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD AND THEN SHARE THE QUASI JUDICIAL RULES OF THE ROAD, AND THE CITY CLERK WILL SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES. >> YES. ITEM NUMBER 10A, RESOLUTION CITY COMMISSION, CITY OF TAMARAC GRANTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY KNOWN AS WOODMONT POD B TO PERMIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF EIGHT 2-STORY TOWNHOUSE BUILDINGS CONTAINING A TOTAL 50 UNITS LOCATED ON SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH PINE ISLAND ROAD AND SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. REGARDING THE RULES OF QUASI JUDICIAL. A PERSON TESTIFYING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION MUST BE THROWN IN WITH REGARD TO QUASI JUDICIAL ITEMS BEFORE BEING CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. THE PETITIONER IN EFFECT SHALL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE, BRING FORTH WITNESSES, CROSS EXAMINING ANY WITNESS. ALL EVIDENCE RELIED UPON BY REASONABLE PRUDENT PERSON TO THEIR BUSINESS SHOULD BE ADMISSIBLE, WHETHER SUCH EVIDENCE WOULD BE ADMISSIBLE IN THE COURT OF LAW. HEARSAY EVIDENCE MAY BE USED FOR A PURPOSE OF SUPPLEMENTING EXPLAINING OTHER EVIDENCE, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT BY ITSELF TO SUPPORT A FINDING. [02:10:01] STATEMENTS ATTORNEY SHALL NOT BE CONSENT ONLY AS ARGUMENT, NOT TO BE CONSIDERED AS TESTIMONY. THE COMMISSION SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY TO REFUSE AND HEAR A TESTIMONY WHICH IS IRRELEVANT. DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE MAY BE PRESENTED IN THE FORM OF A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL IF AVAILABLE. UPON REQUEST, THE PARTY SHALL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPARE THE COPY WITH THE ORIGINAL. ALL PARTIES SHOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CROSS EXAMINE WITNESSES, QUESTION PARTIES ABOUT THE EVIDENCE. ORDER PRESENTATION BE AS FOLLOW. THE PETITIONER WILL PRESENT HIS CASE FIRST, STAFF WILL THEN GIVE PRESENTATION IF REQUESTED. AFFECTED PARTIES WILL ALLOW TO GIVE TESTIMONY. PERSONS WHO ARE IN SUPPORT ARE IN OPPOSITION WILL PROVIDE TESTIMONY OR STATEMENTS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASPECT OF IT. FINALLY, THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL DELIBERATE ON THE PETITION, AT THIS POINT, NO FURTHER TESTIMONY SHOULD BE TAKEN, AND MEMBERS OF CITY COMMISSION SHALL NOT ASK QUESTIONS OR PERSON PRESENTED TESTIMONY. AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY EXPERT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND THE APPLICANT OR RESIDENTS. WE'LL GO THROUGH YOUR WAY FIRST INSTANT. BUT ACTUALLY, THE CITY CLERK WAS READY TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES, BUT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, ANY DISCLOSURES? >> NO. >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? >> NO. >> I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT ATTORNEY AND THE APPLICANT. VICE MAYOR? >> I DID THE SAME. >> COMMISSIONER BOLTON? >> NONE. >> CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES. >> ALL WITNESSES FOR THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? MADAM MAYOR, ALL WITNESSES HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE. >> MOVE IT. >> SECOND. >> THE ITEM WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. THE ITEM WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. MS. CHRISTINA BILENKI IS A DESIGNATED AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT, AND SHE WILL DELIVER THE PRESENTATION. >> GOOD EVENING. FOR THE RECORD, CHRISTINA BILENKI OF MISKEL & BACKMAN. MY ADDRESS IS 14 SOUTHEAST, 4TH STREET IN BOCA RATON, AND IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF WOODMONT. MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROPERTY AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT HAS A LONGSTANDING HISTORY, BUT IT IS ABOUT 4.3 ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PINE ISLAND ROAD IN SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD. IT HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION NOW OF LOW MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL AND A ZONING DESIGNATION OF R-3 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S BECAUSE OF THIS LONG HISTORY THAT STARTED OVER A DECADE AGO WHEN I FIRST STARTED MY CAREER HERE IN TAMARAC. I THINK EVERYBODY IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE WOODMONT GOLF COURSE REDEVELOPMENT. PULTE CAME IN AND AMENDED, ACTUALLY, IT WAS WOODMONT THAT FIRST AMENDED THE LAND USE FOR NINE HOLES OF THEIR GOLF COURSE. THEY ALLOWED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE MAJORITY OF THE HOLES, AND THIS PARTICULAR AREA WAS DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THAT TIME. THERE WAS A REZONING CORRESPONDING WITH THOSE APPLICATIONS THAT PROVIDED FOR B-2 ZONING. I GUESS, MOST RECENTLY, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY COMMISSION ACTUALLY APPROVED A LOCAL LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT TO DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, WITH THE ALLOCATION OF 50 FLEXIBILITY UNITS, ALLOWING FOR ESSENTIALLY 50 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TWO R-3 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY. WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN LOCATED ON YOUR SCREEN HERE, AND I TRIED TO COLOR COORDINATE IT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE ON THE SCREEN THE VARIOUS AREAS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, SO THIS IS A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, 50 TOWNHOUSE UNITS PROPOSED WITHIN EIGHT BUILDINGS. THOSE BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNATED IN THAT REDDISH COLOR. THE BEDROOM MIX IS A COMBINATION OF THREE TO FOUR BEDROOMS, THE FOUR BEDROOM UNITS ARE LOCATED AT THE ENDS OF EACH BUILDING. WE DO HAVE 125 PARKING SPACES, SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY A RATIO OF 2.5 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. [02:15:07] JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THE DISCUSSION THAT THE CITY WAS JUST HAVING AND THE PARKING ISSUES THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING, DURING MY MEETING WITH THE MAYOR, ACTUALLY, SHE RAISED PARKING CONCERN AS WELL, GIVEN EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE CITY. OUR TEAM LOOKED BACK, AND WE DO BELIEVE IT'S FEASIBLE TO HAVE SOME OF THE DRIVEWAYS BE DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS, SO CURRENTLY, THERE'S ONE PARKING SPACE IN THE GARAGE, ONE PARKING SPACE IN THE DRIVEWAY, AND THEN WE HAVE 25 GUEST PARKING SPACES. WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH STAFF AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO SEE HOW MANY DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS CAN BE ACCOMMODATED. WE STILL NEED TO MEET THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE VEHICULAR USE AREAS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY SPACES TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN. >> WE ALSO HAVE A POOL IN CABANA AREA. THOSE ARE LOCATED IN THE PURPLE THAT IS CLOSER TO THE LAKE. WE ARE EXCEEDING ALL SETBACKS, MEETING ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES OR WAIVERS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE APPLICATIONS. WE ARE PROVIDING FOR SUFFICIENT OPEN SPACE, AND THE USE IS PERMITTED NOW BASED ON THE LAND USE AND ZONING. NOW, THERE ARE SOME OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AS WELL. I HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, THE NEW LAKE AREA. CURRENTLY, A PORTION OF THE LAKE IS ACTUALLY ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PARCEL, SO THAT LAKE WILL BE RECONFIGURED, AND IT WILL PROVIDE AN ATTRACTIVE BUFFER BETWEEN THOSE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO THE SOUTH IN THIS PROJECT. IN ADDITION, WE ARE PROVIDING SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING AND IN PARTICULAR, PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT SOUTHERN BUFFER, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. THERE IS A CONTINUOUS HEDGE ALONG THAT BUFFER. WITH TREES, I THINK IT HAS TO BE THREE TREES PER 40 LINEAR FEET, SO THAT IS BEING PROVIDED, AND IT'S A COMBINATION OF GUMBO-LIMBOS, SPANISH STOPPERS, RED TIP COCO-PLUMS. THEN WE HAVE A VARIETY OF OTHER TREES AND SHRUBS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND ALONG THE PERIMETER TO REALLY ENHANCE THE APPEARANCE OF THIS PROPERTY. WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO EXPAND THE CITY'S WALL. WE'LL HAVE THE NICE TAMARAC WALL THAT YOU SEE BY THE PULTE PROJECTS THAT'LL BE EXTENDED TO THIS AREA AS WELL. HERE WE HAVE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS, THESE ARE THE FLAT ELEVATIONS. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ELEVATION STYLES, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ONE MONOTONOUS APPEARANCE FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING. WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL CONSULTANT AND CITY STAFF. I THINK WE HAD ABOUT EIGHT OR 10 ROUNDS OF REVIEW AND DISCUSSION WITH THEM TO ENSURE NOT ONLY IS IT MEETING THE CITY'S DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT IT'S AN ELEVATED PRODUCT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC. IT HAS FOUR SIDED ARCHITECTURE, SO THE RECESSES THAT YOU SEE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDED ON ALL SIDES, AND THE TREATMENTS THAT YOU SEE WILL BE PROVIDED ON ALL SIDES AS WELL, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THESE EXAMPLES WITH THE SIDE AND THE REAR ELEVATIONS. HERE YOU HAVE RENDERINGS TO PUT IT INTO A LITTLE BIT BETTER PERSPECTIVE, EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. I THINK IT HELPS VISUALIZE IT MORE SO THAN THE FLAT ELEVATIONS. YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE ELEVATION STYLES HAS THAT STUCCO BANDED TREATMENT WHILE THE OTHER HAS A STONE APPLICATION, BUT IT IS REALLY AN ELEVATED PRODUCT. THERE ARE ALSO COVERED ENTRY WAYS AND RECESSES TO BREAK UP ANY BUILDING MASSING THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE PART OF A TYPICAL TOWNHOUSE PRODUCT. HERE, JUST A COUPLE OTHER VIEWS. THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH THE SITE PLAN, THERE ARE SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT NEED TO BE MET THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE'LL COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE DISTRICT USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE CODE, AND WE'LL COMPLY WITH ANY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. THE BACKUP MATERIAL GOES THROUGH A COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF COMPLIANCE WITH EACH OF THOSE. I HAVE A COUPLE POLICIES ON THE SCREEN TO HIGHLIGHT. SOME OF THE POLICIES SPEAK TO ENCOURAGING DEVELOPERS TO USE FLEXIBILITY UNITS, WHICH WAS DONE HERE TO PROMOTE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH CITY STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THIS [02:20:02] IS A REALLY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT PRODUCT. ENCOURAGE OR ENABLE A VARIETY OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES. WE'RE PROVIDING SOME NEW TOWNHOUSE UNITS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY. PROTECT EXISTING AND PLANNED RESIDENTIAL AREAS FROM DISRUPTIVE LAND USES AND NUISANCES. I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WHEN YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE LOADING AND UNLOADING THAT TYPICALLY OCCURS IN THE BACK, WHICH IS IN THIS CASE, ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA. WITH THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THOSE TYPES OF NUISANCES ARE GOING TO BE ELIMINATED. AGAIN, THE STAFF REPORT GOES INTO DETAIL AS TO HOW WE COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. BUT AGAIN, WE ARE MEETING ALL OF THEM WITH RESPECT TO TRAFFIC. THIS IS ACTUALLY A NET DECREASE IN TRAFFIC FROM THE COMMERCIAL USE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED. WITH THE 50 DWELLING UNITS, AM PEAK HOUR IS A TOTAL OF 38 CARS GOING IN OR OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. A LITTLE OVER ONE EVERY TWO MINUTES AND THEN COMING IN AT THE PM PEAK HOUR, IT'S 42 TRIPS PER HOUR. AGAIN, ONE CAR EVERY MINUTE AND A HALF OR SO. WE DID BRING THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEY HAD A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. STAFF ALSO IS PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND NOTES THAT WE HAVE MET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WE ALSO ARE AGREEABLE TO ALL OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT IS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. ONE THING THAT I DID WANT TO BRING UP IS IN THE STAFF REPORT, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS SPEAKS TO PROVIDING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION OF $1,000 PER UNIT. DR HORTON IS WILLING TO INCREASE THAT TO $2,500 PER UNIT. IT WOULD BE $125,000 TOTAL FOR THE PROJECT TO ADDRESS HOUSING NEEDS THROUGH THE CITY'S PUBLIC PURPOSE INITIATIVES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DR HORTON IS WILLING TO INCREASE FROM WHAT'S WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT RIGHT NOW. WITH THAT, OUR TEAM IS AVAILABLE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MS. CALLOWAY, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CITY'S PRESENTATION THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN MISS BLINKI'S PRESENTATION THAT WE SHOULD SEE? >> NO, MADAM MAYOR. MISS BLINKI HAS COVERED IT ALL THE SLIDES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN STAFF PRESENTATION. I JUST WANT TO ENTER INTO THE RECORD THE 12 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WITH THE ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS MADE BY MISS BLINKI. >> YOU WANT TO SPEAK THEM IN OR YOU'RE JUST? >> NO. THEY'RE IN THE BACKUP, ITS 12. THE LAST ONE NUMBER 12 SPEAKS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH WAS JUST AMENDED BY MISS BLINKI. >> THANK YOU. >> THE CITY HOUSING NEEDS ARE PUBLIC PURPOSE. I THINK THAT'S THE CONDITION MODIFICATION FOR. >> PLEASE REPEAT. >> PARDON ME? >> EXACTLY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> NO, I'M JUST REPEATING WHAT CLARIFICATION WITH MISS BLINKI WAS SAYING. >> INCREASE FROM 1,000-2,500 PER UNIT THAT WILL GO INTO THE CITY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM. >> IT'S TO ADDRESS HOUSING NEEDS IN GENERAL THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE THROUGH ANY RELATED PUBLIC PURPOSE INITIATIVE. >> TO GO TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS CONDO ITEMS. >> YES, WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IT TO BEING APPLIED TO CERTAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS, BUT WE WANT THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FOR ANY RELATED PUBLIC PURPOSE, WHETHER IT'S HAVING A HOMEOWNER THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE, FIXING A ROOF BECAUSE THEY'RE ON FIXED INCOME, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, SO RELATED PUBLIC PURPOSE AS WELL. >> SPECIFIC RELATED PUBLIC PURPOSE. YES, GOT YOU. I HAVE GARY STODDARD, WE'RE NOW OPENING THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE MR. STODDARD WHO HAS SIGNED UP. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MR. STODDARD, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE, SORRY. >> I'M THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT OF LAKEWOOD, [02:25:03] WHICH IS THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY. I NOTICED IN YOUR PICTURE YOU HAVE ONE STREET THAT GOES OUT TOWARDS SOUTHGATE. IS THAT AN EXIT OR IS THAT JUST AN EMERGENCY? >> MR. SUTER, WE TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS OF THE [OVERLAPPING] AND THEN WE'LL GET QUESTIONS. >> THAT WAS MY COMMENT AT A PREVIOUS HEARING THAT, NEEDS TO HAVE AN EXIT ON TWO WAYS. THAT WAS MY ACCOMMODATION THE LAST TIME. MY ONLY COMMENT TONIGHT IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WILDLIFE IN THAT WHOLE GROVE THERE THAT WOULD SPECIFICALLY COYOTES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE RELOCATED, NOT SHOVED INTO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES BY A BULLDOZER THAT'S ALL. >> THAT'S IT, THAT WAS EASY. I'M SURE THE QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED. MR. WASSERMAN. >> SLOW BUT SURE. >> THAT'S OKAY. SLOW AND STEADY WINS THAT RACE. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS RONALD WASSERMAN. I LIVE AT 8577J DRIVE HERE IN TAMARAC. MY HOME ADJOINS THIS PROJECT. THE SITE PLAN FEATURES 413 TREES, 01,670 SHRUBS, IT'S NOT ENOUGH. WHEN PULTE WAS BUILDING THEIR HOMES, THEY PUT UP SHRUBS, ET CETERA AND NOBODY CARED ABOUT THAT. NOW WE WANT TO BUILD THIS COMMUNITY, I URGE YOU NOT TO APPROVE THIS AS PUT FORWARD. WHY? THERE ARE TOO MANY HOLES IN THIS, YOU SHOW NICE PICTURES. WE HAVE HAD CONSTANT PROBLEMS WITH TRESPASSING IN THE WOODMONT AREA. MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT. IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE IT, THE BIG GUNS ARE HERE, THEY CAN TALK ALL ABOUT IT. BUT WE ARE TIRED, AND LET ME JUST TELL YOU. MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS TIRED, NOT JUST ME, THEY ARE INTIMIDATED BY THIS PROCESS I'M NOT. MAY YOU MEET WITH THE BUILDER. EVERYBODY MEETS WITH THE BUILDER, THIS IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT PROJECT, THE WAY IT'S BEING DEVELOPED. TOO MANY UNITS, WAY TOO MANY. THIS IS MY OPINION, AND THIS IS THE OPINION OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION JUST TRIES SO HARD AND YOU HAVE HEARD ME SPEAK ABOUT THE TRESPASSING ISSUES AND WOODMONT WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. HERE I GO AGAIN WITH MY VOICE GETTING LOUD. YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT, AND YOU'RE JUST GOING TO LET PEOPLE WALK AROUND. WE'VE HAD IT WITH THE DEVELOPERS IN THESE MEETINGS THAT YOU GO THROUGH. I'M URGING YOU, PLEASE, DO NOT APPROVE THIS PROJECT THE WAY IT STANDS. PLEASE DO NOT, I'M LOOKING AT EVERY ONE OF YOU. I COME OUT HERE ON A CONSTANT BASIS, I'M OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU'VE BEEN HURT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING THAT THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. VICE MAYOR, THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? >> SURE. FIRST, LET ME ADDRESS THE TWO RESIDENTS THAT CAME UP. [02:30:05] ONE, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THE COYOTE AND ANY WILD ANIMALS? BECAUSE I DO KNOW WHEN PULTE WAS BUILDING, I DID HEAR ABOUT I HEARD ABOUT IGUANAS. >> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IGUANAS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY ARE INVASIVE, SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO NECESSARILY BE TRAPPED. I THINK THEY CAN LEGALLY BE KILLED BECAUSE OF THEIR INVASIVE NATURE. BUT WITH RESPECT TO COYOTES AND OTHER ENDANGERED ANIMALS, WE ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION PERMITTING PROCESS TO TRAP ANY ANIMALS AND RELOCATE THEM. >> YOU'LL DO THAT FIRST BEFORE YOU START. >> IF ANY ANIMALS ARE SEEN ON THE PROPERTY, WE ARE REQUIRED TO RELOCATE THEM. >> WHO NEEDS SEE THEM? >> ANYBODY THAT'S OUT THERE DURING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES? WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE MONITORING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. >> BUT IS THERE A WAY TO CHECK FIRST BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION START? >> I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. >> BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING. BEFORE CONSTRUCTION, CAN WE GET RELOCATE THE ANIMALS? >> I THINK WE CAN DO THAT, AND IT IS TYPICALLY SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. >> BUT PRIOR TO. >> I'M SURE WE CAN DO THAT. >> THEN THE NEXT QUESTION REGARDING THE GREENERY, HE SAID THERE'S NOT ENOUGH. PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE AND CAN YOU PUT MORE? >> IF YOU DON'T MIND PULLING THE PRESENTATION BACK UP FOR ME, I CAN TELL YOU WE DO EXCEED THE CODE REQUIREMENTS QUITE A BIT. YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE DIFFERENT COLOR CODED TREES WHICH SPEAK TO DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE ALSO TREES THAT AREN'T COLOR CODED THAT HAVE CIRCLES AROUND THEM THAT ARE ABOVE CODE REQUIREMENTS WHERE WE HAVE THE YELLOW. AGAIN, THERE ARE TREES THERE AS WELL AS THE BUFFER. WE HAVE TREES RUNNING ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL STREET TREES ADJACENT TO PINE ISLAND AND SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD. WE REALLY DO HAVE TREES ALMOST EVERYWHERE THAT THEY CAN BE PUT, I SEE A LITTLE SPOT NEAR A PARKING AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EQUIPMENT AND LIGHT POLES THERE, WHICH IS MAYBE WHY THAT PART DOESN'T HAVE ANY, BUT WE'RE PUTTING TREES AND LANDSCAPING REALLY EVERYWHERE, BOTH AROUND THE PERIMETER AND INTERNAL TO THE SITE WHERE THERE'S GREEN SPACE. >> QUESTION. YOU SAID YOU'RE BUILDING THE BUFFER WALL, WHICH THANK YOU, BUT ONLY ON SOUTHGATE, NOT ON PINE ISLAND? >> I BELIEVE IT'S ON BOTH. >> IT'S ON BOTH. WHERE YOU BUILD A WALL, YOU ALSO HAVE TREES BEHIND IT? >> YES, THERE WILL BE A BUFFER ON THE INTERNAL SIDE, SO A HEDGE INTERNAL, SO THAT WE'RE NOT BLOCKING THE WALL, AND THEN THERE'S STREET TREES. >> ON THE ROADWAY SIDE AND THEN ADDITIONAL TREES ON THE INTERNAL SIDE OF THE WALL AS WELL. THERE WILL BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CANOPY OUT THERE AS WELL. >> WE'LL HAVE THE BUFFER WALL PLUS TREES OR EDGES. >> I DON'T KNOW. >> IT'S TOO SMALL RIGHT HERE FOR ME. >> IF WE'RE LOOKING AT PINE ISLAND HERE, THE BUFFER WALL IS GOING TO RUN ALONG THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY LINE. THEN YOU SEE THESE PURPLE TREES ON THE INSIDE OF THE WALL, THOSE ARE INTERNAL TO THE SITE. THEN WE ALSO HAVE THESE MAGENTA-COLORED TREES, WHICH ARE THE STREET TREES THAT ARE GOING WITHIN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL. THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE ON SOUTHGATE. ALONG SOUTHGATE, WE'RE ALSO MAKING IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE MEDIAN AND ADDING ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE MEDIAN AS WELL. >> NOW, HOW WOULD THAT ASSIST WITH TRESPASSING? BECAUSE TO ME, YOU'RE MAKING THE LAKE BIGGER, AND THEN THE WALL. >> CORRECT. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING. THERE'S NO BARRIER TO PREVENT KIDS OR OTHERS FROM COMING ACROSS SOUTHGATE INTO THIS SITE. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WATER BODY, BUT IT'S SMALL. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR WAY AROUND IT. YOU CAN GET INTO THE GOLF COURSE THAT WAY. THE BUFFER WALL THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS CONNECTING ALL THE WAY ALONG SOUTHGATE, ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE. THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S THIS AREA OF WOODMONT AS WELL WHERE THAT CONNECTION WILL BE MADE, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LAKE WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUFFER WALL. REALLY, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A LOT MORE [02:35:04] DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO ENTER THE PROPERTY WHERE RIGHT NOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO WEAVE IN BETWEEN A COUPLE TREES THAT ARE OVERGROWN. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A WALL, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE LANDSCAPING, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LAKE. ALL OF THAT, IN ADDITION TO HAVING A NEW COMMUNITY THERE, WILL PREVENT TRESPASSING ALONG THIS CORNER INTO THE WOODMONT PROPERTY. >> THEN REGARDING THE OUTLET OR THE INLET ON SOUTHGATE? >> THAT'S A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MADE DURING MY PRESENTATION, SO I APOLOGIZE. DOWN AT THE SOUTH END HERE ON PINE ISLAND, THIS IS OUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF INGRESS AND EGRESS. ESSENTIALLY, THERE'S ONE ACCESS POINT FOR RESIDENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WHAT WE HAVE ALONG SOUTHGATE IS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT FOR FIRST RESPONDERS THAT NEED TO EITHER GET IN OR OUT OF THE SITE. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE A FULL INTERSECT OR A FULL ACCESS POINT HERE BECAUSE IT IS SO CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION. THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS ALLOWED, BUT WE DO HAVE IT FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. >> BECAUSE ONE OF MY THING WAS THE LOOK, DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE OLD PICTURES COMPARED TO THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE? >> I WAS THINKING I SHOULD HAVE ADDED THOSE. [OVERLAPPING] I DO NOT HAVE THE ORIGINAL OR THE OLDER PICTURES, BUT THEY ARE QUITE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED ON THE SITE, AND I WOULD SAY FOR THE MATTER BY FAR, PERSONALLY. >> THANK YOU FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY BETTER, SO WHICH OF A STAFF WORK PUT YOU ON THIS. THANK YOU. >> STAFF IS REALLY PUSHING. >> THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANKS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS FOR THE INCREASE BECAUSE WHAT WE HEARD IN OUR BUDGET MEETING PRIOR TO THIS WAS THAT SOME RESIDENTS ARE IN SERIOUS NEEDS, SO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO ASSIST WITH THEIR HOMES, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> WELCOME. >> TO ASSIST IN MAKING WOODMONT LOOK EVEN BETTER THAN IT DOES, WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I WILL ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. WHERE IS YOUR SOUTH POINT WHEN THE DRIVER IS COMING IN ON PINE ISLAND? WHERE EXACTLY DOES IT LINE UP WITH WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET AND SOUTH OF IT? >> YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC HERE, WE ACTUALLY SHOW THE ACCESS POINT TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET OR THE SOUTHERNMOST ACCESS POINT. IT IS IN LINE WITH THAT ACCESS TO PREVENT CONFLICTS WITH ACCESS POINTS BEING SKEWED. WITH THAT, WE ARE ALSO EXTENDING THE TURN LANES TO FACILITATE MOVEMENTS INTO THE SITE. >> THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE THERE IS A BIT OF A BACKUP SOMETIMES WHEN IT GETS REALLY BUSY AT THE END OF THE DAY. IT TURNS IN AND THEN IT TURNS OUT. YOU'RE FIXING IT TO BE THAT WAY? >> YES. >> THE STREETS ARE PRIVATE, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. >> IT'S NOT GATED? >> IT IS NOT GATED. >> MY CONCERNS ARE KIDS COMING FROM ACROSS THE WAY WHEN THEY DON'T GO HOME RIGHT AWAY AFTER SCHOOL, AND THERE'S A POOL, THERE'S A TOP LOT OR PARKING THERE. WILL YOU HAVE ANY SECURITY AROUND THERE TO BE TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO PARK THERE? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE SECURITY AT ALL TIMES BECAUSE IT IS ONLY 50 DWELLING UNITS, AND THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COST FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS. BUT I'M SURE IF THEY ARE NOTICING AN ISSUE, THEY WILL FIND A MECHANISM TO START ENFORCING THAT. >> YOU KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH THE PARKING SITUATION. >> I DO. >> WHILE IT SOUNDS GOOD THAT'S 125 SPOTS, IT'S NOT 125 SPOTS. I HAD ASKED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER FOR IT NOW, HOW MANY 3-4 BEDROOM HOMES DO YOU HAVE? >> THERE ARE 16 FOUR-BEDROOMS. THEY ARE THE END CAPS OF EACH OF THE BUILDINGS, AND THE REMAINDER, SO 34, ARE THREE-BEDROOM UNITS. >> THEY'RE ALL THREE OR FOUR-BEDROOM UNITS? >> CORRECT. >> AT THIS TIME, THEY ALL HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY AND ONE CAR GARAGE? >> CORRECT. WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH [02:40:03] STAFF TO ACCOMMODATE AS MANY DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS AS POSSIBLE. >> ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW MANY THAT IS? >> NOT WITHOUT CONFIRMING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN INTO LANDSCAPE ISSUES AND REMOVAL OF REQUIRED TREES. WE THINK WE CAN ACCOMMODATE ABOUT TWO PER BUILDING WITHIN THE LARGER BUILDING BLOCKS, POTENTIALLY A THIRD, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD NEED TO REVIEW AS WELL. >> YOU GUYS SAT HERE FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE FUN THAT WE HAD REGARDING PARKING SITUATIONS, RIGHT? >> YES. >> I BLAME US FOR THIS. I KNOW OUR CODE HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED DESPITE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. I UNDERSTAND YOU ADMIT THE MINIMUM. I DON'T LIKE OUR MINIMUM. OUR MINIMUM DOESN'T WORK FOR REALITY, AND I WANT TO GET TO YES, BUT I'M HAVING A BIG ISSUE, MORE THAN THE $2,500 PER PERSON, PER UNIT ON THE FACT THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE SOME SERIOUS PARKING ISSUES WHEN YOU HAVE THREE-BEDROOM PLACES, MOSTLY, AND THEN A COUPLE OF FOUR. YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT THESE PLACES ARE NOT EVENTUALLY GOING TO HAVE FOUR CARS, MAYBE JUST THREE CARS, AND ALL THE PARKING DOWN THERE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FOR GUESTS OR HAVING PEOPLE SAY, WHO'S GOING TO GET WHAT SPOT? I HAVE CONCERNS. OTHER THAN TELLING US THAT YOU CAN AGREE TO MAKING SURE IT'S CONDITIONED ON SOME ADDITIONAL SPOTS, PENDING THE CITY'S RULES AND REGULATIONS ON LANDSCAPING, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN SAY TO HOPEFULLY MAKE SOME OF US FEEL BETTER? >> WHAT I CAN SAY IS D.R. HORTON VERY MUCH WOULD LIKE TO SEE DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS AS WELL. WE TRIED TO SEE IF WE COULD FIT THEM IN IN EVERY UNIT, AND THERE ARE OBVIOUS CONFLICTS WITH SOME OF THE CORNERS, ESPECIALLY. WE KNOW WE CAN'T PROVIDE THEM AT ABSOLUTELY EVERY UNIT, BUT FROM THEIR STANDPOINT, THEY VERY MUCH WANT TO SEE DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS. THEY WERE CONSIDERING IT THROUGH THE PROCESS, DID NOT MAKE THAT CHANGE, BUT THEY WANT TO SEE THAT ACCOMMODATED TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO SO AS WELL. >> WHAT ARE THE WIDTHS OF THE ROADWAYS? >> TWENTY-FOUR FEET. >> IT'S 12 AND 12, CARS ARE ABOUT 10 FEET WIDE. IF YOU'VE GOT THE BIG SUBURBAN, YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LARGER. THERE'S GOING TO BE PARKING ON THE STREET ISSUES ON THIS ONE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT IN A CONDITION TO MAKE SOME DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS, BUT I ALSO HEAR THE CONTINGENCY ON THE PROVISION OF THE DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS BEING UP TO THE CITY AND IF THEY MEET THE LANDSCAPING CODE. IF THE LANDSCAPING CODE DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO DO IT, THEN YOU CAN'T MEET THE CONTINGENCY OF ADDING DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS TO EACH OF THE UNITS, MS. CALLIE, CORRECT? >> THE CONDITION CAN READ, THE APPLICANT AGREES WHERE FEASIBLE TO ADD DOUBLE DRIVEWAY. >> BUT THE PROBLEM IS WHERE FEASIBLE DOESN'T TELL ME IF IT'S EVEN FEASIBLE FOR ONE OR TWO OR 10 OR 20 TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WHERE THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING FOR THIS COMMUNITY. THIS BRAND NEW BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ODDS ALREADY WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING FOR THEIR CARS. >> ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS, AGAIN, WE ARE EXCEEDING THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. WE'RE NOT JUST MEETING THE CODE REQUIREMENTS, AND MY CLIENT VERY MUCH WANTS TO SEE DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS, SO THEY ARE COMMITTED TO FINDING SOLUTIONS. >> THEN I'LL ASK THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A CITY THING THAT WE CAN DO. CAN WE WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS EXTRA GREENERY AND GRASS STUFF THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN FOR BEING AS WIDE SO THEY CAN FIT DOUBLES IN? >> CLARIFICATION, THIS IS MY DISTRICT. NO ONE HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT ONE PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IN FACT, WHAT THEY DO WANT IS GREENERY. THEY'RE ON A GOLF COURSE FOR A REASON, SO THEY DO WANT THE GREENERY. THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER TOWNHOUSES THERE. I SEE PEOPLE PARK ON THE PRIVATE STREETS. I WENT TO THEIR HOA, NEVER ONCE DID THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT PARKING. TO JUST CREATE A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM IS UNFAIR. TO TAKE AWAY GREENERY, WHICH EVEN MY COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN, [02:45:01] THE RESIDENT JUST CAME UP AND ASKED FOR GREENERY, IS UNFAIR. WE'RE NOT GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO NOT GIVE THE COMMUNITY GREENERY THAT THEY ASKED FOR. ANYONE WHO LIVES ON THE GOLF COURSE, GUESS WHAT? THEY LOVE GREEN, THEY DO. THAT'S WHY WE LIVE THERE, SO TO TAKE THAT AWAY TO PUT CONCRETE, NO. >> I THINK THERE'S NOT AN UNDERSTANDING OF MY COMMENT, AND THERE'S NOBODY LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY YET THAT CAN SAY WHETHER OR NOT THEY LIKE IT. >> THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUY THERE. >> VICE MAYOR, YOU HAVE YOUR OPINION, [OVERLAPPING] I'M ENTITLED TO MINE. THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT WITH YOU. >> IT'S NOT. >> OUT OF SOME OF THE DESIGN LAYOUT THAT WE HAVE HERE, IF IT COULD BE MODIFIED TO WHERE IT COULD BE UP CLOSER TO THE HOUSE, ADD A LITTLE EXPANSION, STILL BE PRETTY WHERE PEOPLE WILL ENJOY IT, BUT ADD THE ADDITIONAL PARKING BECAUSE MY FEAR IS YOU MIGHT GET PEOPLE BUYING IN RIGHT AWAY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE SELLING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GROW THEIR FAMILIES AND DO WHAT THEY NEED IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ASKED YOU OR US TO CHANGE SOME OF THE THINGS IN OUR RULES FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO BE A GREAT SUCCESS. NOW, WE CAN EASILY JUST RUBBER STAMP IT AND SAY, YEAH, BUT I'M TELLING YOU MY CONCERNS FOR THE FUTURE, AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE GONE. SOME OF US MAY NO LONGER BE ON THE DAIS BECAUSE IT'LL BE 2030 AND WE'LL BE GONE, BUT WE'LL STILL LIVE IN THE CITY, AND WE'LL STILL HEAR ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO DO SOME VARIANCE. I HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE ASKED AND SAID ON THE RECORD TO DO THAT YOU'LL DO BASED ON THE CITY'S FEASIBILITY. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> MAYOR GOMEZ? >> YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >> I'M TRYING TO FORMULATE MY QUESTIONS. I'M NOT YET DONE WRITING. >> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NO CHOICE FOR YOU NOT BEING DONE WRITING. COMMISSION PATTERSON, DO YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OR ARE YOU READY FOR VOTING? >> NO, I HAD SOME COMMENTS. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? SHE'S BROUGHT YOU FIVE MINUTES, MAYBE. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WASN'T AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. ARE THESE THE DEVELOPERS IN THE BACK HERE? >> THERE ARE THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM DR HORTON HERE. >> FOR ME, I HAVE QUESTIONS JUST RELATED TO THE PROJECT OVERALL. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING IT ON THE SCREEN TONIGHT. THERE ARE SOME JUST THINGS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S A STAFF THING OR IF IT'S THE BUILDER, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE PACKAGE UP AN ITEM, AT LEAST THE RENDERINGS ARE A PART OF IT. AGAIN, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE HAVE A PRACTICE. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRACTICE IS. I FEEL LIKE THE PRACTICE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT IT SHOULD REALLY BE IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE DOING BUSINESS IN OUR CITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE ENTIRE COMMISSION. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE BACKUP IS VAGUE. THE FIRST TIME I SAW A PICTURE OF THIS PROJECT IS TONIGHT IN THIS MEETING. I THINK INSTEAD OF ME TALKING IN CIRCLES, LET ME JUST MAKE IT VERY PLAIN AND DIRECT. I WOULD APPRECIATE TO HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIALOGUE ABOUT THIS PROJECT PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING. WHILE I UNDERSTAND YOUR OFFICE REACHED OUT, I FOUND OUT LATE LAST WEEK THAT YOU REACHED OUT. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO SET A MEETING AND HAVE A DISCUSSION. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. MY ASSISTANT WAS DIRECTED TO REACH OUT ABOUT TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE OF TONIGHT, SO I APOLOGIZE ON MY END, AND I'LL LOOK INTO THAT. >> I GUESS QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, I DID SEE IN THE BACKUP THAT THERE IS THREE AND FOUR BEDROOMS, AND IT SAYS AT 575. DOES THAT MEAN YOU GUYS ARE SELLING EVERY UNIT AT 575, OR DID STAFF LEAVE OUT SOME INFORMATION? >> NO, THAT'S A BALLPARK ESTIMATE AS TO WHAT A UNIT MIGHT SELL FOR. IT'LL ULTIMATELY DEPEND ON THE MARKET AT THE TIME THE PRODUCT IS READY TO BE SOLD. >> THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DETAIL TO SOME EXTENT. WE JUST WANT TO HAVE AN IDEA. WHAT'S OUR ANTICIPATED TAX REVENUE? WHAT'S THE PROJECTION ON REVENUES? >> I DO THINK WE DID PROVIDE THAT IN THE BACKUP, AND IT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT. >> I DID SEE A NUMBER. THE PROJECT YOU GUYS ARE SELLING AT 575*50 UNITS, [02:50:02] YOU'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 30 MILLION IN POTENTIAL REVENUE FROM THIS PROJECT OVERALL. I DID READ THE BACKUP. I'M CLEAR ON WHAT THE PROJECT SAYS ON PAPER. I'M JUST ASKING, FROM A STANDPOINT OF A NUMBER, THERE'S ONLY ONE NUMBER WITH 3-4 BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH ARE WE GOING TO BE IN THE MILLION RANGE? WHAT'S THE RANGE? IS THERE A RANGE? BECAUSE I GOT ONE NUMBER IN THE BACKUP FOR AD VALOREM TAX PROJECTIONS. IS THAT NUMBER A FLAT NUMBER, OR IS THAT ALSO A PROJECTION? IS IT A SCALE? >> IT'S A PROJECTION. I THINK WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO SELL THE UNITS IN THE $500,000 RANGE. AGAIN, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IT'S ON THE MARKET TODAY. IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE MARKET IN A FEW MONTHS. DEPENDING ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS, IT MAY GO UP OR DOWN A LITTLE BIT, IT'S NOT GOING TO JUMP TO ONE MILLION. IT IS A FAIR ESTIMATE TO USE. >> I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SOLVID, AND THAT WE'RE APPROVING SMART PROJECTS AND SMART DEVELOPMENT. TO SOME EXTENT, I THINK THE DETAILS ARE IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IF THIS IS THE ONE AND ONLY TIME THAT WILL BE ENGAGING AT THIS LEVEL AROUND THIS PROJECT. ARE WE SAYING THAT WE WON'T BE GOING PAST A NUMBER? HOW DO WE ANTICIPATE AS A COMMISSION APPROVING A PROJECT AT 575? WHAT IF THE MARKET CHANGES? WHAT'S THE DELIVERABLE DATE IN TERMS OF IF IT'S APPROVED TONIGHT, WHEN WILL THE PROJECT BE FINISHED? >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET AN ESTIMATE FOR YOU. THE EARLIEST DELIVERABLE DATE WOULD BE TOWARDS THE END OF NEXT YEAR, SO THE END OF 2026. >> WE'RE AT THE END OF 2025. YOU GUYS EXPECT TO GET 50 UNITS DONE IN A YEAR? >> THAT'S THE EARLIEST DELIVERABLE UNIT. IT'LL PROBABLY GO ON. I DON'T KNOW. WHAT'S YOUR CONSTRUCTION TIME '26? >> TWENTY-SEVEN. >> CLOSE OUT WOULD BE IN 2027. >> I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD TYPICALLY, AND MAYBE THROUGH THE MANAGER, MS. CALLOWAY, I'M NOT SURE. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AROUND THAT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE APPROVE AT 570, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US, THE BACKUP IS GIVING THOSE NUMBERS, AND I JUST WANT TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AROUND WHAT HAPPENS LATE '26, EARLY '27, WHEN I DON'T KNOW, NUMBERS CHANGE. THE ECONOMY GOES UP DOWN, WHATEVER. IS THERE A MEANS OR MECHANISM TO REGULATE THAT, OR DOES IT HAVE THE ABILITY TO [OVERLAPPING] >> IT'S MARKET-DRIVEN. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S MARKET-DRIVEN, AND SO THE PROJECTIONS WE PROVIDED IN THE FISCAL IMPACT IS BASED ON THE PROPOSED MARKET RATE FOR THE UNITS. >> WE'LL TARGET AMI FOR THE PROJECT? >> NO, THEY ARE MARKET-RATE UNITS. >> THEY'RE JUST MARKET RATE. ARE THERE ANY UNITS DESIGNATED FOR WORKFORCE? >> NO, WE'RE PROVIDING THE LIEU CONTRIBUTION. >> WELL, I KNOW THAT THERE'S $1,000 IN LIEU CONTRIBUTION, BUT EVEN IF YOU GUYS WERE GETTING A TAX CREDIT, THAT WOULDN'T REALLY EQUATE AFFORDABLE. >> TO CLARIFY, WE'VE INCREASED THAT CONTRIBUTION FROM $1,000 PER UNIT TO 02,500 FOR A TOTAL OF $125,000 FOR THE PROJECT. >> THAT $125,000 IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT? >> YES. >> I DIDN'T SEE A LIST IN THE BACKUP. I JUST SAW THAT AS A CONDITION OF THE DISCUSSION WITH PLANNING. BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY BENEFITS? HAVE YOU GUYS HAD ANY COMMUNITY OUTREACH ON THE PROJECT? >> WE HAVE HAD A FEW DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THE BETTER PART OF THREE PLUS YEARS. WE HAD ONE COMMUNITY MEETING EARLY ON, AND THEN A SECOND AS OUR PLANS DEVELOPED FURTHER, BUT WE HAVE HAD OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY. >> THE COMMUNITY WAS FAVORABLE. WHAT WAS THEIR FEEDBACK? >> FOR THE MOST PART, IT WAS RESIDENTS ABUTTING THE PROJECT, BUTTING THE GOLF COURSE THERE THAT CAME FOR THE MOST PART. THEY WERE FAIRLY FAVORABLE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR COMMERCIAL USE. NOW THIS IS PROPOSED FOR TOWN HOMES, WHICH IS A LOT MORE COMPATIBLE, [02:55:01] PLUS WITH THE LAKE RECONFIGURATION THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AND THE ADDITIONAL BUFFERS. IT SEEMED FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT MOST OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE MET WITH WAS FAVORABLE. >> I SAW THE MATERIALS THAT YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING RE-DOING THE MEDIAN ON PINE ISLAND, BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROJECT ALSO ABUTS THE SOUTHGATE CORRIDOR AS WELL. ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO THE MEDIAN ON THAT SIDE AS WELL? >> WE ARE MAKING CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG PINE ISLAND. SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE EXTENDING THE LEFT TURN LANE. BECAUSE OF THAT, THE WELCOME TO CITY TAMARAC SIGN NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED. WE ARE RELOCATING THE CITY'S SIGN TO THE WALL AT THE CORNER OF SOUTHGATE AND PINE ISLAND. THEN THE INTERSECTION ALONG SOUTHGATE, WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT WIDER. IT'S GOT SOME TREES IN THERE NOW. WE'RE GOING TO BE ENHANCING THAT LANDSCAPING AS WELL. >> ARE YOU GUYS RELOCATING THE SIGN OR REPLACING IT AND MAKING IT NEW? >> ESSENTIALLY, IT WILL BE A NEW SIGN, AND MUCH BIGGER NICER, WELCOME TO TAMARAC SIGN. >> CAN I TAKE MY TWO MINUTES? >> YES. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK YOU IS WHETHER ANY LOCAL SUBCONTRACTORS ON YOUR PROJECT? WHAT CONSIDERATION IS BEING GIVEN TO LOCAL SUBS ON THE PROJECT? >> DR HORTON ALLOWS EVERYBODY TO BID, INCLUDING LOCAL CONTRACTORS. THEY SELECT WHO'S BEST SUITED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY HAVE A STANDARD GROUP OF CONTRACTORS THAT THEY USE FOR EVERY PROJECT. THEY WILL OPEN IT UP TO LOCAL CONTRACTORS AND SUBS. >> I WOULD DEFINITELY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO MAKE THAT A PROVISION OR A REQUIREMENT OF THE PROJECT. I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE PREFERENCE TO OUR LOCAL VENDORS AND FOLKS THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT I THINK THAT'S A BENEFIT THAT FALLS UNDER A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY. WHILE THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO NECESSARILY LIVE THERE, AT LEAST THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PARTNER IN THE PROJECT AND GENERATE SOME REVENUE FROM BEING ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE DEVELOPER ON THE PROJECT. >> I KNOW ON OTHER PROJECTS BEFORE, WE'VE DONE ADDITIONAL OUTREACH EFFORTS TO ATTRACT LOCAL CONTRACTORS TO BID. WE CAN SEE WHAT'S BEEN DONE SIMILAR TO THAT IN THE PAST AND ENSURE WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT BIDS FROM LOCAL CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS. >> IT BE GREAT. YOU GUYS CO-HOST A JOB FAIR HERE LOCALLY IN THE CITY, OPEN UP YOUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR SUBS, AND THE CITY CAN CERTAINLY, I'M SURE, PARTNER IN GETTING THE WORD OUT. AT LEAST IF THERE IS A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES CREATED, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY IN A PROJECT OF THIS NATURE. THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. >> THANKS. JUST IN REFERENCE TO WHAT THE COMMISSION SAID REGARDING LOCAL CONTRACTOR AND GIVING THEM, I GUESS, FAVOR, BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE DOWN IN THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT. >> AGREE. >> BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I STAND FOR AS A RESIDENT AND PROPERTY OWNER, IN THIS COMMUNITY, IS THAT WE HAVE THE BEST QUALITY IN WOODMONT. THE BEST QUALITY TO ME WOULD MEAN THE BEST SUBCONTRACTORS, THE BEST CONTRACTORS, THE BEST WORKERS, THE BEST PRODUCTS. NOTHING CHEAP THAT'S GOING TO BREAK FOR $0.5 MILLION. NO ONE WHO'S NOT GOING TO SHOW UP TO WORK. FIND THE BEST. PREFERABLY, HOPEFULLY, THE BEST IS A TAMARAC RESIDENT. BUT IF NOT, GET THE BEST. >> I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE TO ENSURE WE'RE DOING OUTREACH TO LOCAL CONTRACTORS SO THAT THEY AT LEAST UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT IS COMING IN AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BID. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. >> WHAT DOES TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S DOABLE MEAN? >> REALLY, TO THE EXTENT THAT THE CODE PERMITS. >> I WOULD PREFER, THERE'S SOMETHING CONCRETE. [03:00:06] THERE IS A SOLID AGREEMENT TO SOMETHING. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IF IT'S DOABLE, THEN WE'LL HEAR WELL, WE COULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT DOABLE. >> I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, AND I THINK THAT'S A VALID POINT. BUT WITHOUT STAFF VETTING OUR PLANS, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO TWIGGER VARIANCES OR OTHER CODE ISSUES. WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET UP TO THREE PARKING SPACES PER UNIT OVERALL IF WE CAN. BUT AGAIN, WITHOUT HAVING STAFF REVIEW THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD COMMIT TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE HOPEFUL AT A MINIMUM, WE'D BE ABLE TO GET TO DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS IN EACH BUILDING. >> THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE ARE THE DEVELOPERS I HEARD, ARE THEY DECISION MAKERS? >> THERE ARE SOME DECISION MAKERS, YES. >> MAYOR, WAS YOUR POSTURE LIKE A MOTION TO TABLE TO IRON OUT MORE DETAILS? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I'M READY TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS FOR 3-4 YEARS. >> I UNDERSTAND, SO MAYOR, WAS IT A POSTURE FOR MOTION TO TABLE OR. >> NO IS MORE A POSTURE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO DIRECT CITY STAFF TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THIS COMMUNITY, WHILE, OF COURSE, KEEPING IT BEAUTIFULLY LANDSCAPED, BUT MAKING IT WHERE IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AND PRETTY BUT PARKABLE. >> MS. CALLOWAY, HOW CAN THAT BE ACCOMPLISHED TONIGHT? >> COMMISSIONER, WE CAN ADD A 13TH CONDITION THAT THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING, PROVIDED IT DOES NOT CREATE ANY VARIANCES. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY, WE'RE FEASIBLE, BUT WE'RE HERE AND THE VICE MAYOR AS WELL, AND SO WE WOULDN'T WANT A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A PERVIOUS AREA, IMPERVIOUS AREA IMPACT AS WELL AS LANDSCAPE VARIANCES. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT. IF YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE OR PROVIDED IT MEETS THE CODE, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY GO BACK AND MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ADD ADDITIONAL SPACES. THEN WE CAN REPORT THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. >> I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK. WHAT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK, AND IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? >> I THINK THE OBJECTIVE IS NOT TO CREATE IMPACTS, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO LANDSCAPE. IF WE WANT TO BE SPECIFIC AND SAY PROVIDED, THEY'RE AT 43%, I BELIEVE, IN TERMS OF PERVIOUS AREA, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. THE CODE REQUIRES 40%. THEY'RE FULLY LANDSCAPED, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCE, AND IT SOUNDS THAT'S WHAT THE VICE MAYOR WANTS TO BE LEAST IMPACTED. >> THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AND YOU DID ADDRESS COMMUNITY OUTREACH. YOU WENT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU ASKED, AND THAT'S A CONDITION OF. >> YES, THEY DID. WE ALSO SENT NOTICES OUT TWICE FOR THIS MEETING, AS WELL AS FOR THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING. >> JUST TELL US WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAID AGAIN. >> THEY HAD GENERAL QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING, BUT NOBODY HAD ANY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES, OR CONCERNS, OR OBJECTIONS. GENERALLY, THE PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT, FOR THE MOST PART, LIVED ADJACENT TO THE GOLF COURSE JUST SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT. THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THEIR BACKYARD. THEY WERE INQUIRING AS TO WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, BUT THEY WERE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE. [03:05:01] MOST WERE HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL USE WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT LOADING AND UNLOADING, AND THAT THEY'D BE GETTING A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT WAS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL. THEN THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE GOLF COURSE, THE LAKE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AS WELL. >> I WILL MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT I HEAR TONIGHT. BUT SINCE YOU TALKED ABOUT WHAT RESIDENTS SAID, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU WHAT SOME RESIDENTS ARE SAYING ONLINE. ALL OF THEM ARE NEGATIVE, BY THE WAY, BUT I'LL JUST READ SOME OF THEM. NOTHING LIKE BUILDING ON A PESTICIDE, WEED, KILLER, AND FERTILIZER-FUELED PIECE OF LAND. "I'M SURE THE KIDS WILL LOVE MAKING MUD PIES OUT OF IT". ANOTHER ONE SAYS, "UNBELIEVABLE". ANOTHER ONE SAYS, "MONEY TALKS, SCREW US PEONS". ANOTHER ONE SAYS, "MORE PEOPLE, TAMARAC IS OVERPOPULATED". ANOTHER ONE SAYS, "HORRID, JUST HORRID". ANOTHER ONE SAYS, "CRIME GALORE". ANOTHER ONE TALKS ABOUT STUDENTS, IN THAT AREA, WOULD BE ACCESSING THE PROPERTY, BUT YOU SAID THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY GATE. CAN YOU ADDRESS A SECURITY GATE? >> THERE'S A WALL AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, WITH A HEDGE, WITH TREES. THAT'S THE SECURITY. THERE'S NO GATE TO PREVENT CARS FROM GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY OR OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE WOULDN'T BE SUFFICIENT STACKING TO ALLOW FOR A GATE. BUT THERE'S A LOT BETTER SECURITY THAN WHAT EXISTS CURRENTLY TODAY. >> CLARIFICATION. BECAUSE EVERY DEVELOPMENT I HAVE SEEN, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, HAS BEEN ON THE GOLF COURSE. DO ANY OF THEM EVEN LIVE IN WOODMONT? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ASK. NO, THE KIDS AREN'T TRESPASSING. THEY DON'T EVEN TRESPASS ON THE GOLF COURSE 'CAUSE THAT THING IS WALKING DISTANCE FROM MY HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET. LET'S NOT TELL LIES ON PEOPLE'S CHILDREN. >> I'M REPEATING WHAT I READ ONLINE ABOUT YOUR PROJECT. >> FOR ME, I DRIVE THROUGH WOODMONT. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WOODMONT. NO SHADE TO NORTH LAUDERDALE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE NORTH LAUDERDALE. I DON'T THINK IT'S PRETTY. I THINK THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO FIT INTO THE TEXTURE OF THAT COMMUNITY. RESIDENTS HAVE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT HOW PRISTINE AND BEAUTIFUL WOODMONT IS. I DON'T THINK THAT HOW IT LOOKS ADDS NECESSARILY A BEAUTIFUL VALUE. IF YOU CAME FROM ANOTHER ELEVATION, YOU CAME FROM ANOTHER LOOK AND YOU CAME TO THIS. >> DOESN'T HAVE LOOK. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THIS LOOK, BUT I DON'T THINK IT STILL LOOKS RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PROFFER THAT YOU MADE. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT $2,500 GOING TO HOUSING INITIATIVES, WHILE THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSING [OVERLAPPING] >> COMMISSIONER, I THINK IT WAS BROADEN, THE SCOPE WAS BROADEN, SHE HAD CORRECTED IT. >> CORRECT. BUT THE MAYOR ALLUDED TO HOUSING SPECIFIC PROJECTS. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IS THAT THE ADDITIONAL $1,500 IS FOR HOUSING SPECIFIC PROJECTS. I WANT TO HEAR THAT IT'S FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE. PLEASE CLARIFY. >> WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH PUBLIC PURPOSES, SO LONG AS THERE'S A RATIONAL NEXUS. >> AS LONG AS? >> THERE'S A RATIONAL NEXUS. IT ADDRESSES SOME IMPACTS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. >> EXPLAIN RATIONAL NEXUS. >> TYPICALLY, THERE HAS TO BE SOME NEXUS WITH THE IMPACTS THAT [03:10:04] THE PROJECT WOULD MAKE AND THE PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT IT IS GOING TO ADDRESS. HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE, IS IMPACTED BECAUSE WE'RE PROPOSING NEW HOUSING ON THE PROPERTY, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SUCH A BIG NEED IN THE COUNTY THAT IT MAKES SENSE. WE'RE WILLING TO EXPAND THAT TO OTHER PUBLIC PURPOSES AND CITY INITIATIVES SO THAT, AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS HELP WITH A ROOF REPAIR, BUT THEY'RE ON A FIXED INCOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSION TO ADDRESS THIS OTHER PUBLIC PURPOSES. >> I MEAN, YOU WORKED ON THE WOODMONT'S PROJECT. THAT'S A SEPARATE CLIENT ON A DIFFERENT DAY, BUT I WOULD NOT WANT TO, FOR INSTANCE, TIE THE HAND OF THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER. IF ONE OF HER RESIDENTS CALL AND SAY, I CAN'T PAY A LIGHT BILL, THAT IS A PUBLIC PURPOSE. SHE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE ABLE TO TAP INTO THOSE FUNDS AND HELP A RESIDENT. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR NEXUS MEANING THAT IT'S ONLY FOR WOODMONT AREA OR FOR DISTRICT 4. IT SHOULD BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND SHOULD BE LEFT ABROAD. >> THAT IS NOT THE INTENT THAT IT WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO A CERTAIN DISTRICT. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE CITYWIDE, AND IF AN ELECTRIC BILL NEEDS TO BE PAID, I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THIS BUCKET. >> A PINE CITY ATTORNEY WILL HELP US OUT. >> I BELIEVE THE PETITIONER ATTORNEY IS BASICALLY INDICATING THAT PUBLIC PURPOSE MEANS ESSENTIALLY, IF THERE'S A NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IS RELATED TO HOUSING AND RELATED TO INSECURITY, LIGHT BILL, AND THE GRANT, AND DIFFERENT PURPOSES, SIMILAR TO THE FUNDS WERE USED FOR WOODMONT. SHE WAS COUNSEL FOR WOODLANDS, I MEAN. SIMILAR IN TERMS OF BECAUSE THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO BE PUBLIC PURPOSE, AND THEY HAVE BECAUSE I HAVE REVIEWED THEM. >> CAN THOSE FUNDS BE LOOKED AT AS DISCRETIONARY AND DIVIDED BY FIVE TOTAL? >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THESE ITEMS? >> I'M ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY A QUESTION. >> RIGHT NOW, IS A VOLUNTARY PROFFER IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMISSION DECIDES TO DO WITH IT AT A LATER DATE IS UP TO YOU GUYS. BUT IT HAS TO STAY WITHIN THE PUBLIC PURPOSE. >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THIS ITEM IS BEING ASKED FOR FOR MONEY THAT GOES INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INSTEAD OF PUTTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. GRANTED YOU'RE UNDER THE HUNDRED UNIT MARK, SO YOU DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO DO THAT. BUT WE HAVE A RULE ON THE BOOKS THAT SAID IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ANY MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR THE CITY, IF IT'S GOING TO BE ASKED BY SOMEBODY, WE WERE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON IT VERSUS HAVING A PERSON STAND AT THE DAIS, AT THE PODIUM, HAVING A PROFFER FEELING UNDER DURESS. THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT DOES. >> THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS, NOT HERS. DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE UNDER DURESS? >> IT DOESN'T MATTER. THAT IS WHAT THE RULES OF THIS COMMISSION WERE SET UP, SO WE WERE NOT DOING THIS TO OUR APPLICANT. >> IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE HER FROM MAKING A VOLUNTARY PROFIT. >> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE UNDER DURESS? >> WHAT'S THE POINT OF RULES IF WE DON'T FOLLOW? >> I'M ASKING THE APPLICANT A QUESTION. >> I AM ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. >> MAYOR, SHE CAN MAKE A VOLUNTARY PROFFER, WHICH SHE DID. ALL SHE'S DOING IS EXPLAINING THE USE OF THE PROFFER. THANK YOU. >> YOU MADE A VOLUNTEER PROFFER. DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE UNDER DURESS? >> I DO NOT. >> WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THE FUNDS BEING DISCRETIONARY AND BROAD? >> AGAIN, SO LONG AS IT'S FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE. >> DISCRETIONARY, BROAD AND FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE. >> YES. >> WELL, THE PUBLIC PURPOSE HAS TO BE BROAD. >> I SAID DISCRETIONARY, BROAD AND FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND SHE SAID, YES. CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> CAN I CLARIFY BEFORE BECAUSE YOUR TIME IS UP. >> NO, HE SAID TWO MINUTES. >> YOU SAID ABOUT THE PROPERTY OR THE PROPOSED PICTURES OF HOW IT LOOKS IS UGLY, AND IT DOESN'T MEET STANDARDS. WHAT WOULD MEET STANDARDS? COULD SOMEBODY FROM, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT WOULD BE, IF IT'S OUR DEPUTY MANAGER, TELL US WHAT WOULD MEET THE STANDARDS REGARDING THE LOOK, AND IT FITTED IN TO THE WOODMONT AREA? THAT WAS A BIG STATEMENT. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, WHERE THE LOOK DOESN'T FIT. LET'S DEAL WITH THAT PART. >> VICE MAYOR, COMPATIBILITY IS ALWAYS AT THE FOREFRONT WHEN WE LOOK AT BRINGING A PROJECT TO A LOCATION. WE ALSO HAVE AN UNSTAFFED ARCHITECT, [03:15:01] AND I THINK AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED, IT WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH OUR ARCHITECT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOMETHING THAT WAS MODERN, BUT INCLUDED CERTAIN ELEMENTS AS WAS SHOWN, AND THAT WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. >> IS THERE ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO MAKE IT MORE COMPATIBLE OR EVEN MORE OF AN UPGRADE? >> IS IT THE COLOR? IS IT BECAUSE IT HAS SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES ON SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME ELEMENTS GOING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT? I THINK THAT WAS DELIBERATE. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN SPECIFIC, YOU'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THEN, AND IF THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE. >> MAYBE YEAH, BECAUSE THESE ARE BETTER RENDERINGS. >> NOT BEING VINDICTIVE OR ANYTHING, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING NOT RIGHT, I WOULD LIKE US TO SAY IT AND FIX IT BEFORE IT GOES ANY FURTHER. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING UGLY. NOT IN MY COMMUNITY. SO LET'S MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL. [LAUGHTER] [BACKGROUND] >> YOU'LL GO BACK, YOU'LL FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN GIVE US ADDITIONAL PARKING. AND THAT WILL BE A CONDITION PRECEDENT 13? >> YES. IF THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT AS CONDITION 13. >> I'D LIKE THAT TO BE ADDED. MS. CALLOWAY, YOU THINK THAT THIS IS COMPATIBLE LOOKING AT THE OTHER HOUSES IN THE AREA? >> I DO. I FIND IT ATTRACTIVE. I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. >> MAYBE YOU SHOULD MOVE FROM DAVE AND GO LIVE IN ONE OF THEM. >> YEAH, I'M THINKING ABOUT DOWNSIZE, AND THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. [LAUGHTER] THE GIRLS ARE IN COLLEGE. >> TIME TO RETIRE. >> THAT TOO IS A CONSIDERATION. [BACKGROUND] >> LISTEN, I DIDN'T MAKE A BIG SENSE. THIS IS MY OPINION. I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S. >> WHAT COULD BE FIXED? >> BUT POINT OF CLARIFICATION, VICE MAYOR DANIEL, YOU'RE RELYING ON THE WHOLE PROJECT BASED ON HIS STATE? >> NO. I DON'T MAKE A BIG STATEMENT. >> WELL, THEN HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BUY A UNIT THERE. JUST LIKE HE SAID SOMETHING ELSE. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BUY A UNIT THERE. [LAUGHTER] >> CAN WE? [LAUGHTER]. >> AND NO SHADE TO YOU GUYS. IF YOU WERE HERE AT OTHER COMMISSION MEETINGS, THIS IS MILD COMPARING TO WHAT YOU MIGHT HEAR IN OTHER COMMISSIONS. TO THE PRETTY LADY IN WHITE, I APOLOGIZE FOR SAYING YOUR PROJECT IS UGLY. [LAUGHTER] BUT I JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT I PUT ON RECORD WHAT RESIDENTS ARE SAYING, AND THEY DON'T FIND IT NECESSARILY ATTRACTIVE. BUT YOU'VE IRONED OUT MY TWO BIGGEST CONCERNS. MY THREE BIGGEST CONCERNS, ARE COMPATIBILITY, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR NOW SAYS THAT THE PROJECT IS COMPATIBLE. NUMBER 2, THERE IS A CONTENTION THAT THERE COULD BE A 13TH CONDITION BASED ON WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. NUMBER 3, THE FUNDS, THE $125,000, WOULD BE DISCRETIONARY, BROAD, AND FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE. THE DECISION MAKERS ARE HERE. $125,000 IS A LITTLE BIT, SO DO YOU WANT TO ASK THEM IF THEY CAN INCREASE IT? >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION, DON'T EVEN ANSWER THAT ONE. >> MS. MAXINE. >> IT'S NOT UP TO YOU FOR HER TIMES. >> SHE CAN ANSWER IN A SECOND. BUT IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S NOT GOING TO SAY WHAT THE POLICY IS. [OVERLAPPING] >> FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A CONDITION AS PART OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING BOARD. >> NO, THIS BEING. [OVERLAPPING] >> THE CITY COMMISSION HAS AUTHORITY TO MEAN ANY CONDITION. [OVERLAPPING] >> CORRECT. BUT THIS IS CIRCUMVENTING THE POLICY THAT THIS COMMISSION PUT IN PLACE TO AVOID THIS RIGHT AWAY NOW. >> HE'S ANSWERING AND THEN YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOVE HIM? >> WELL, NO, BECAUSE HE'S NOT ANSWERING. I WASN'T ASKING HIM THE QUESTION. I WAS ASKING MS. CALLOWAY. >> YOU SPEAK BEFORE THE AUTHORITIES. [OVERLAPPING] >> IF HE'S AGREEING WITH YOU. >> HE'S NOT AGREEING WITH ME. [OVERLAPPING] HE'S SAYING THAT WE COULD CHANGE IT RIGHT HERE. >> BECAUSE THE PLANNING BOARD IS A SUBSERVIENT BOARD TO THIS COMMISSION. THE COMMISSION COULD CHANGE THAT. WHATEVER THE PLANNING BOARD AGREED, THEY COULD EVEN REVERSE THE DECISION. >> THAT'S NOT THE POINT. THE POINT IS THE POLICY WE PUT IN PLACE AS A COMMISSION HAS NOTHING [03:20:03] TO DO WITH THE PLANNING BOARD TO AVOID THIS VERY THING FROM HAPPENING, SO WHEN APPLICANTS COME TO THE TABLE, THEY ARE NOT ALL OF A SUDDEN ASKED FOR INCREASES OR CHANGING IN THE WAY THEY ORIGINALLY SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. [OVERLAPPING] >> WELL, THAT'S WHY THE PLANNING BOARD AND COMMISSION CAN OBVIOUSLY AMEND IT. >> THE PLANNING BOARD CAN AMEND IT. THE PLANNING BOARD INSERT THE RULES. >> I SAY THE COMMISSION. >> BUT IT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. THE POINT BEING WE ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE PUT A RULE IN PLACE TO NOT HAVE DONE. >> WHAT RULE? >> MAYOR. >> FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A CONDITION OF THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVAL, WHICH THE COMMISSION HAS A RIGHT TO AMEND. SIMPLE. >> CLARIFICATION. I'M SORRY, AND THIS IS NOT CLARIFICATION. BUT I'M LOOKING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE UGLY. I'M STILL ON THE UGLY. [LAUGHTER] IF THEY PUT THE END UNIT. >> THE HAVING THE TIME EITHER WAY. [OVERLAPPING] >> IF WE ADDED MORE TIME. >> I DON'T. BUT I'M ASKING. >> IF THE PLAN IS DON'T. >> I'M CLARIFYING. [OVERLAPPING] IF I GO CLOSE MY EYE AND GIVE YOU CONCRETE. I'M GIVING YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE IT DOUBLE GARAGE. MAYBE THAT WILL LOOK BETTER. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? I'M SORRY, TALK LOUD, EVEN THOUGH YOU NOT SMELLY. >> THEY HAVE PHONE THEMSELVES, IF SO JUST JOIN THE PODIUM, PLEASE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU ON THE RECORD FOR IT. [BACKGROUND] >> IT WOULDN'T BE A GARAGE THAT'S EXPANDED. IT WOULD BE THE DRIVEWAY IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE WOULD BE EXPANDED. >> IT'S A TWO CAR GARAGE? >> THE OUTDOORS WON'T ALLOW FOR A TWO-CAR GARAGE. [BACKGROUND] >> PLEASE COME AND THEN STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE. >> WE'VE HAD KEITH LEONARD. DR HORTON. WE'VE HAD TEN MEETINGS WITH YOUR STAFF ARCHITECT TO GO THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS OF THIS PROJECT. PAINSTAKINGLY, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, CHANGED ROOF LINES, ELEVATIONS, THE MATERIALS THAT WE'VE USED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IF YOUR STAFF ARCHITECT, HE'S HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE. I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY CAN SAY IT'S UGLY. [OVERLAPPING]. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY. RIGHT NOW, THIS PRODUCT HAS BEEN THROUGH TEN REVIEWS OF YOUR STAFF ARCHITECT. THE LAST PHONE CALL, WE CHANGED ROOF LINES. WE STEPPED THE ROOF LINES BACK AND DID ALL KINDS OF CHANGES TO MAKE THEM HAPPY. I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO RELY ON YOUR STAFF, THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. >> IN ALL FAIRNESS, I THINK IF WE HAD SEEN THE OLD COMPARED TO THE NEW, IT WOULD BE, SEE THE DIFFERENCE. NINE DAYS. >> THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. >> I KNOW. >> REALLY, WE'RE SPENDING A LITTLE TOO MUCH TIME ON THAT. >> WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PUT ONLINE, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ON NASTY THEY'RE GOING TO PUT ON NASTY. THEY MAY NOT EVEN LIVE IN TAMARA. >> RIGHT. I AGREE. THE END UNITS WITH THE DRIVEWAY? MAKE USE? >> WE WILL MAKE THE DRIVEWAY CHANGES WHATEVER. IF WE CAN DO DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS ON EVERY UNIT, WE'LL DO DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS ON EVERY UNIT. WE HAVE OTHER CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TO MEET. IF WE WORK OUT WITH YOUR STAFF, THAT THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO, WE'LL DO IT. IT'S JUST, WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH YOUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE ADD THE ADDITIONAL DRIVE SPACE. >> MAKE IT LOOK LIKE $0.5 MILLION. >> THEY'LL BE BEAUTIFUL. THERE'S MORE LANDSCAPING THAT'S PUT IN AROUND THIS PROJECT, THE ADDITIONAL LAKE, THE BUFFER, THE ADJOINING COMMUNITIES. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. >> NO, I HAVE 14 SECONDS. >> LESS. GO. >> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO INCREASE THE PROFFER AND WHEN WILL THIS PAYMENT BE MADE? >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE'VE INCREASED THE PROFFER FROM WHAT IT WAS INITIALLY OF 1,000 PER UNIT. WE'RE NOW AT 2,500 PER UNIT. THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE AND MORE THAN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSE. >> DID YOU MAKE THAT PROFFER, TOO? >> IT WAS A CONDITION THAT WE AGREED UPON AT THE PLANNING BOARD. >> PLANNING BOARD, IT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE. BUT ANYWAY. >> IT WAS BASED ON WHAT PULTE HAD DONE IN THE AREA WITH A $1,000 CONTRIBUTION PER UNIT. [03:25:05] IT'S WHAT OTHER DEVELOPERS HAVE DONE IN THE CITY IN THE PAST. WE UNDERSTAND HOUSING COSTS HAVE INCREASED OVER TIME, SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE ADDITIONAL INCREASE OF AN ADDITIONAL 1,500 IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THOSE MARKET ADJUSTMENTS. >> PAYMENT IS MADE WHEN? >> I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? >> PAYMENT IS MADE WHEN. >> WE WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE PAYMENT WITHIN 60 DAYS OF CLOSING. >> WHEN DO YOU CLOSE? >> AS SOON AS WE CAN GET PERMITS IN HAND, IT WOULD BE NO LATER THAN JUNE OF 2026, BUT WE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO CLOSE SOONER, SO LONG AS WE HAVE OUR DRAINAGE PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT PERMITS IN HAND, AND WE ARE WORKING TO DO THAT EXPEDITIOUSLY. HOPEFULLY MUCH SOONER THAN THAT TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'M LOOKING AT YOUR UNITS. YOU SAID 575. THAT'S SO SURE LIKE A NUMBER. USUALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE SELLING HOMES, THERE'S RANGES BASED ON LIKE BEDROOMS. THE THREE BEDROOMS WOULD BE 500, OR FOUR BEDROOMS WOULD BE 600. OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY NOT TWO-BEDROOM UNITS? >> WE JUST FELT THAT THIS AREA WOULD WARRANT A LARGER PRODUCT AND THAT MOST PEOPLE WE FIND WANT THREE BEDROOMS. TWO BEDROOMS ARE TOUGH TO SELL OUT BECAUSE MOST FAMILIES WANT TO HAVE THREE BEDROOMS. THEY WANT IT FOR A GUEST ROOM, AND NOW THAT YOU GET LARGER FAMILIES, YOU WANT TO HAVE THE FOUR BEDROOMS. >> WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTIONS BECAUSE A FIRST-TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM ARE CURRENTLY FROM RAMAS CALLOWAY, CAPS AT 450. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INVENTORY ON THE MARKET AT THAT PRICE POINT. THE FACT THAT THIS IS NEW INDUSTRY COMING ON STREAM. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WAY, AT LEAST THOSE FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS AT THAT 450 MARK WOULD HAVE SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN PROBABLY PURCHASE A UNIT OR TWO, WHICH TO AS THE TWO BEDROOMS NOT UNDERSTANDING MARKET PRICES, MARKET FORCES. I'M A CAPITALIST, I UNDERSTAND CAPITALISM WORK, BUT KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES, AND PART OF THE AMERICAN DREAM IS BUYING THAT FIRST HOME AND THESE ARE POSH. I THINK THEY'RE VERY POSH LOOKING. FOR THE WOODMONT [LAUGHTER] POSH. THAT'S A RISK THE WOODMONT AREA. TRUST ME I KNOW THE WOODMONT AREA VERY WELL. I HAD A FRIEND THAT LIVES IN THERE IN ONE OF THOSE NEWER HOMES. IT DOES FIT INTO THAT LOOK OF THAT AREA, THAT'S VERY POSH. BUT THAT'S THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTIONS. HOW CAN WE GET UNITS AVAILABLE AT THOSE PRICES? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WILL BE WILLING TO, ONE OR TWO UNITS? >> WE'RE PAYING YOU $2,500 TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCT. FOR US IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO REACH THAT TARGET OF 450 IS THE TARGET BASED ON WHAT YOUR LAND COST AND YOUR DEVELOPMENT COSTS ARE. IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO TRY TO HIT THAT TARGET RANGE. >> NONE OF THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE BELOW FIVE. YOU SAID 575, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THESE ARE GOING TO BE 5-7. BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TWO YEARS AWAY FROM BEING TO MARKET THESE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKET WILL BE BY THE TIME WE GO TO SELL. >> BASED ON COMPS IN THAT AREA. YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY DONE SOME COMPARISON, AND 575 IS WHAT, IS THAT AVERAGE? [OVERLAPPING] >> WHAT WE WOULD THINK WOULD BE RIGHT NOW. >> FOR TOWNHOUSES. >> YES. >> GOING BACK TO MESS'S POINT, I THINK MOST TIMES WHEN PEOPLE PURCHASE A TOWNHOUSES, LIKE THEIR FIRST HOME, IT'S A START AT HOME. WHEN THE FAMILY GETS BIGGER, PEOPLE MOVE INTO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE WITH THE CARS, HAVING THE ONE SPACE, AND THEN THE ONE GARAGE BECAUSE USUALLY IT'S A START AT HOME. BUT AT 500-600K. >> YOU'LL BE SURPRISED, WHAT WE WILL BUILD YEAH. >> REMINDS ME OF THE PLACES. DID YOU GUYS DO IN OAKLAND PARK? IT'S CLOSE TO. >> I'VE DONE STUFF IN OAKLAND PARK. WE'RE DOING STUFF IN PEMBROKE PINES RIGHT NOW. WE'RE DOING TOWNHOUSES AT PEMBROKE PINES, AND THEY'RE, I THINK, IN CLOSE TO THE SEVENS. THEY'RE IN THE SEVENS FOR TOWNHOUSES. >> IS THAT THE COMMUNITY IN PINES CLOSE TO CHAPEL TRAIL WEST. DID YOU GUYS DO THAT COMMUNITY? THERE'S A NEW TOWN [OVERLAPPING]. >> IT'S IN THE CORNER OF PINES BOULEVARD IN 170. >> ONE SEVENTY, YEAH. OKAY. >> THE OLD SCHOOL BOARD BROWARD WHERE THE SCHOOL WAS? [03:30:01] THEY HAD THE TRAILERS. >> YES, AND IS THIS COMMUNITY GOING TO HAVE A SIMILAR LOOK TO THAT COMMUNITY? >> THESE ARE A LITTLE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. >> A LITTLE BIGGER. A LITTLE BIGGER AND BETTER. >> YES. >> OKAY. GOT IT. THANKS. >> CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY OR REITERATE THE WALL ON THE WEST SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE THAT'S BEING DONE BETWEEN WOODMONT GARDENS AND THE COMMUNITY? >> THE WALL ON THE EAST SIDE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE PROPOSING A WALL HERE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. THERE IS A WALL. [OVERLAPPING] SORRY? >> SORRY. I REALLY CAN'T SEE. IT'S LIKE, RIGHT ABOVE MY HEAD. IT'S ON THE EAST MOST SIDE. I BELIEVE WHEN WE SPOKE, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A WALL SEPARATING OR JUST ENCLOSING THE COMMUNITY. ALONG WITH THE LAKE, PEOPLE AT THE WOODMONT GARDENS WOULD NOT BE CONCERNED THAT PEOPLE WERE GOING TO CUT THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITY TO TRY TO GET HERE. >> SORRY. REMIND ME WOODMONT GARDENS IS. >> IS A COMMUNITY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAKE? >> ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAKE? IT WON'T BE A WALL. IT WOULD BE A FENCE OR I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A FENCE WITH A HEDGE, LIKE A CONTINUOUS HEDGE ALONG THE ENTIRETY AND THE REQUIRED TREES IN ADDITION TO THE LAKE AND THE BUFFER. >> PURPOSE BEING NO ONE'S COMING THROUGH AND CUTTING THROUGH. >> CORRECT. >> THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN EXPRESS CONCERN EARLIER TONIGHT. REITERATING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE WHO MAY BE CURIOUS, THE N UNITS OF THE FOUR, IT'S THE MIDDLES THAT ARE THREES. >> CORRECT. >> THE MONEY BEING PROFFERED IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE CITY TO BE USING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PURPOSES AND HOUSING PURPOSES RUN BY THE CITY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROFFERING, OR ARE YOU PROFFERING THAT THE CITY COMMISSION CAN RECEIVE THESE FUNDS AND UTILIZE THEM? >> IT WOULD BE FOR OTHER PUBLIC PURPOSES AS WELL. OUR HOPE WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD BE HELPING OTHER OWNERS OR RENTERS WITHIN THE CITY. BUT IT WOULD BE FOR THE CITY'S PUBLIC PURPOSE. >> THE CITY ADMINISTRATION, NOT COMMISSION ADMINISTRATION. ARE THESE FUNDS COMING TO THE COMMISSION TO BE DIVIDED IN FIVE FOR US TO. [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY'RE GOING TO THE CITIES. >> GOING TO THE CITY'S FUNDS FOR THE CITY TO BE UTILIZING. >> WE ARE [OVERLAPPING] >> IT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE CITY. LIKE ANY PROFFER, THE MANAGER CAN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION ASK FOR DIRECTION WHAT TO DO WITH IT. >> YOU CAN'T CHANGE A COMPANY'S PROFFER WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL. THAT'S WHY THE LAST ONE [OVERLAPPING] NEED TO GET A NUMBER AN AGREEMENT IN WRITING, IN WRITING, REMEMBER IN WRITING. >> TO THE CITY. THE MANAGER GET DIRECTION. THAT'S HIS JOB. >> YOU CANNOT CHANGE A COMPANY'S PROFFER. ANYWAY, IT IS ON THE RECORD. IT IS CLEAR, BUT I'M QUESTIONING OUR CITY. WE'LL LEAD DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES CAN BE ALLOTTED. MS. MAXINE. WHAT WORDING DO WE NEED TO HAVE? NO, FOR WHATEVER'S IN LANDSCAPE AND VISUALLY PLEASING TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING. >> I THINK THERE WAS A CONDITION AT NUMBER 13, BASED [OVERLAPPING] >> I UNDERSTAND IT WAS NUMBER 13, BUT THE CONVERSATION WENT ON ABOUT HOW IT COULD BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY NOT ALLOWING IT. I'M ASKING IF THE CITY IS GOING TO WAIVE SOME OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DOING EVERYTHING WITHIN ITS POWER TO KEEP IT BEAUTIFUL, LANDSCAPE NICE, LOOKING PRETTY, BUT ADDING PARKING, NOT TWO SPOTS. I GET A LOT OF BLANKS BASE STARES AT ME ON THIS ONE. >> THERE'S NO ANSWER YES. THEY ARE GOING TO DO THEIR BEST. >> THEN IT COMES FROM THE COMMISSION AS SUCH. THAT'S THE PROFFER. THAT'S THE AGREEMENT BY THE CITY BECAUSE BECAUSE WE SAY SO. IF WE AGREE TO THIS? COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE ON THE BROWARD COMMISSION. I THINK THAT AS WE BRING DEVELOPMENT AND WE BRING PROJECTS, WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THAT AS THE COMMUNITY RISES, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RISE AS WELL. THIS COMMUNITY BENEFIT WILL CREATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEARBY THAT POTENTIALLY HAVE ASSESSMENTS. [03:35:01] THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS. THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO AFFORDABILITY. WE DON'T HAVE AN AFFORDABILITY ENGINE IN OUR CITY. WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE DO FROM A PUBLIC PURPOSE STANDPOINT IS MEETING THE NEEDS, AND SO I THINK THAT AS I LOOK AT THE OVERALL TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT, 125 ISN'T NECESSARILY PROPORTIONATE OR COMMENSURATE WITH THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE PROJECT. IT'S NOT EVEN A 0.5% OF THE PROJECT, 125 IS LESS THAN 0.5% OF THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE PROJECT. WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WE WANT TO BE PARTNERS IN THIS. PERHAPS THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OVERALL TEMPERATURE IS OF COMMUNITIES NEARBY, AND AS YOU SEE, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES HERE TONIGHT. BUT AS WE START TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE PROJECT OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK POSITIVELY ABOUT OUR DECISION AROUND THE PROJECT, AND I THINK THIS IS A VEHICLE AND A MECHANISM THAT HELPS US BECAUSE THERE IS A MEANS TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, LISTEN, THIS DEVELOPER WAS A GOOD PARTNER WITH THE CITY RATHER. THE PROJECT IS COMING, AND HERE ARE SOME BENEFITS. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WOODMONT PREVIOUSLY, AND THERE WAS A NEGOTIATION MADE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WASN'T AROUND FOR THE INITIAL VOTE FOR THAT PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW, I CAME IN AT THE TAIL END OF IT, BUT I DO THINK THAT AT MINIMUM, IT NEEDS TO BE PROPORTIONATE. >> THANK YOU. >> AT LEAST AT 5%. >> THANK YOU. 0.5%, RATHER, EXCUSE ME. >> THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS ANY TIME LEFT TO SPEAK WOULD BE COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY WITH YOUR 2 MINUTES? CITY CLERK? >> WAS THAT A MONOLOGUE COMMISSIONER PATTERSON OR WAS IT A QUESTION? >> NO. IT WAS A STATEMENT, AND SHE WAS PASSED FOR 2 MINUTES, AND THE APPLICANTS ALREADY SAID, THEY'RE NOT GIVING ANY FURTHER. CITY CLERK, PLEASE FOLLOW THE RULE. >> POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAYOR. YEAH, IT WAS A QUESTION. >> QUESTIONS ALREADY BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. WOULD YOU WISH TO ANSWER AGAIN? >> I'M ASKING IT. I'M ASKING IT. >> WOULD YOU WISH TO ANSWER AGAIN? [OVERLAPPING]. >> I FRAMED THE WAY THAT I FRAMED IT. I'M POINTING OUT THAT WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU GUYS CONSIDER AT LEAST PUTTING IT AT $150,000, WHICH IS NOT EVEN A PERCENT. [OVERLAPPING]. >> YOU EXPRESSED THAT SO. >> YEAH, AND AGAIN WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRIBUTION. THIS IS WELL ABOVE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE WITHIN THE WOODMONT COMMUNITY, ABOVE WHAT'S BEEN DONE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL, AND THIS IS A SITE PLAN. THE OTHER PROJECTS IT CAME WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND A LOT OF OTHER NEGOTIATION AS WELL. WE'RE TRYING TO BE A GOOD PARTNER. WE RECOGNIZE THE NEEDS WITHIN THE CITY. THAT'S WHY MY CLIENT WENT UP FROM THE $1000, BECAUSE WE AGREED THAT THAT WAS FAIRLY LOW, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE INCREASED HOUSING COSTS AND CONCERNS WITH INFLATION THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING OVER THE YEARS. WE MADE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO INCREASE OUR CONTRIBUTION BECAUSE OF THAT. >> UNDERSTOOD, I GUESS, MY QUESTION AROUND COMMUNITY BENEFITS. MY QUESTION AROUND COMMUNITY BENEFITS WAS SOMETHING THAT I PROFFERED A SUBCONTRACTOR. THE VICE MAYOR IS SAYING THAT SHE HAD SOME CONCERNS AROUND THAT. IN LIEU OF PARTNERING WITH LOCAL CONTRACTORS, WOULD YOU GUYS BE AMENABLE TO ADJUSTING THAT NUMBER? BECAUSE, REALLY, OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE IS NO COMMUNITY BENEFIT ON THE PROJECT. >> WELL, AGAIN, WE SEE THAT AS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. WE SEE THE WALL AS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT, THE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE MAKING ALONG THE RIGHT OF WAY, ALONG THE MEDIAN, TO THE CITY SIGN. THERE ARE NUMEROUS COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT ARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THIS PROJECT. AGAIN, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN. WE'RE TRYING TO BE A GOOD PARTNER. WE'RE WILLING TO REACH OUT TO LOCAL CONTRACTORS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET LOCAL CONTRACTORS INVOLVED. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH. ULTIMATELY, IT WOULD GO THROUGH A BIDDING PROCESS, BUT WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN IN OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS THERE AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> MAYOR GOMEZ. >> AS AMENDED WITH CONDITION 12 AND 13. >> MAYOR GOMEZ. >> YES. >> DO WE NEED TO DO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR? >> NO. >> [OVERLAPPING] COME ON, MADAM. I'M ASKING THE ATTORNEY A QUESTION. DON'T GET ME STARTED AT 11:00. I'VE BEEN NICE. >> NO, YOU HAVEN'T. >> WERE THESE WERE MODIFIED CONDITION? [03:40:02] I THINK THE APPROVAL ONE IS 12 TO EXPAND THE PROFFER TO BE BROAD, AND ALSO 13 TO DEAL WITH THE PARKING SITUATION WHICH THEY AGREED TO REVIEW? WE'LL GET THE LANGUAGE THAT SITUATED TO THE PUBLIC RECORD OF TONIGHT. BUT IT IS THE VOTE WILL BE AS AMENDED. I DON'T THINK IT'S FINE WITH ME LEGALLY. >> IT'S REFLECTED IN THIS VOTE? CORRECT. OKAY. >> TAKE THREE. OR MAYBE TAKE FOUR. CITY CLERK, CALL THE ROLL. >> MAYOR GOMEZ? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER BOLTON. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? >> NO. >> VICE MAYOR DANIEL. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 41 AS AMENDED. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. GET ON SAFELY. CITY MANAGER, WE'RE NOT ADJOURNED. CITY MANAGER REQUESTS A MOMENT OF OUR TIME. CITY MANAGER. PLEASE PROCEED. >> YES. MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> WE'RE DONE, HE ASKED A MOMENT OF OUR TIME. >> I KNOW WE'RE EAGER TO GET OUT OF HERE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS ONE THING. BUDGETS ARE CRITICAL MILESTONES IN THE OPERATION OF THE CITY. THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF AN EXCITING NEW YEAR IN THE LIFE OF CITY OF TAMARAC WITH ALL KINDS OF NEW PROJECTS, ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS, AND REGARDLESS OF HOW WE GOT THERE, I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMISSION'S EFFORTS, AND THEN THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN BRINGING THIS BUDGET TO A CONCLUSION TONIGHT. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CITY STAFF WHO CONTRIBUTED AND PARTICIPATED IN THIS LONG ARDUOUS PROCESS TO GET TO TONIGHT. IT'S A WORTHY OCCASION TO CELEBRATE, DESPITE. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE STAFF AND THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR ROLE IN BRINGING THE BUDGET TO THIS POINT, SO THANK YOU ALL MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING IS OCTOBER 8TH AT 7:00 P.M. EASY, FAST, EASY COUPLE OF WEEKS. GOOD TO SEE YOU. GO HOME, GET HOME SAFELY. OUR MEETINGS ADJOURNED 11:08. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.