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>> TAKE THREE. WELCOME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
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TO OUR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 9 COMMISSION MEETING, THE CURRENT TIME IS 7:01.CITY CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR GOMEZ.
>> THANK YOU. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND, COMMISSIONER KRYSTAL PATTERSON WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
>> I DIDN'T GET A REVISE ATTEND BUT I DON'T KNOW. SHE'S ON GIVE ONE ELSE.
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I'D LIKE TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO MEET ME OR TO PLEASE GO DOWN INTO THE WELL, AND WE'RE GOING TO WATCH THE CITY HIGHLIGHTS, THE 2024 CITY HIGHLIGHTS VIDEO PRESENTATION.>> LOOK GOOD TO SEE YOU. [INAUDIBLE]
>> TAMARAC, A CITY BUILT ON INNOVATION, RESILIENCE, AND COMMUNITY SPIRIT HAS SPENT THE PAST YEAR PROVING THAT EXCELLENCE AND ACTION, BUILDING FOR TOMORROW IS MORE THAN JUST A THEME.
IT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO PROGRESS.
EVERY INITIATIVE, PROJECT, AND ACHIEVEMENT IN 2024 HAS BEEN A STEP TOWARDS A BRIGHTER, MORE CONNECTED, AND THRIVING FUTURE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
FROM ENHANCING OUR PARKS AND RECREATIONAL SPACES TO ENSURING THE SAFETY AND WELL BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.
FROM EXPANDING CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY, EVERY DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY HAS PLAYED A VITAL ROLE IN SHAPING THE TAMARAC OF TOMORROW.
WE ARE CELEBRATING THE DEDICATION, COLLABORATION, AND RELENTLESS PURSUIT OF EXCELLENCE THAT HAS PROPELLED US FORWARD.
>> OUR BEAUTIFUL RECREATIONAL GREEN SPACES, AND IMPACTFUL COMMUNITY PROGRAMS ARE AT THE HEART OF TAMARAC'S IDENTITY.
OUR EXCELLENT CITY STAFF AND COMMITTED VOLUNTEERS WORK DILIGENTLY TO PROVIDE VIBRANT, INNOVATIVE SERVICES THAT ENRICH RESIDENTS LIVES AND CREATE A BETTER, BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR YEARS TO COME.
IN 2024, OUR EFFORTS SHINED BRIGHTLY AS THE CITY PARTNERED TO HOST THREE FARM SHARE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS, PROVIDING ESSENTIAL GROCERIES TO OUR RESIDENTS.
ALONG WITH OUR FARM SHARE INITIATIVE, EXCELLENCE CONTINUED THROUGH THE CITY'S FOOD PANTRY, SUCCESSFULLY SERVING 137 FAMILIES IN NEED.
TAMARAC RESIDENTS FUR BABIES ALSO RECEIVED ASSISTANCE WITH THE AWARD WINNING PET PANTRY, SUPPORTING 84 FAMILIES.
AS YOU EXPLORE TAMARAC, YOU'LL BE SURROUNDED BY A DIVERSE ARRAY OF PUBLIC ART.
ONE OF THE MANY NOTABLE ART EXHIBITIONS UNVEILED IN 2024 WAS THE PUBLIC ART MURAL AT THE TAMARAC SKATE PARK.
TAMARAC PROFESSIONALS AND AMATEUR SKATERS CAN NOW ENJOY A REFRESHED, VIBRANT, ART FILLED SPACE DURING OUTDOOR SKATE SESSIONS.
ANOTHER MAJOR HIGHLIGHT WAS A LONG ANTICIPATED INSTALLATION OF THE 16 FOOT TALL SPECKLES MCFRECKLES OVERLOOKING FIRE STATION 36 UNVEILED IN EARLY 2024, THE SCOVETED, PERMANENT PUBLIC ART DISPLAY BROUGHT TOGETHER DOG LOVERS AND COMMUNITY SUPPORTERS.
THE FUTURE IS ALWAYS AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR INITIATIVES.
IN 2024, WE INCREASED OUR INCLUSIVE PROGRAMMING BY TAKING STEPS TO BECOME A CERTIFIED AUTISM FRIENDLY CITY,
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POSTING SENSITIVITY TRAININGS FOR OUR STAFF AND PARTNERING WITH TARA VELA HIGH SCHOOL TO OFFER JOB TRAINING SKILLS FOR YOUNG ADULTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.THE CITY OF TAMARAC BUILDING DEPARTMENT REMAINED DEDICATED TO ENSURING STRUCTURAL STABILITY, MAINTAINING ITS HIGH STANDARDS WHILE SERVING CUSTOMERS, WORKING WITH CONTRACTORS AND RENEWING CERTIFICATIONS.
IN 2024, TAMARAC RENEWED ITS PRESTIGIOUS IAS ACCREDITATION, REMAINING THE ONLY BUILDING DEPARTMENT IN BROWARD COUNTY AND ONE OF JUST SEVEN IN FLORIDA TO HOLD THIS ELITE RECOGNITION.
THIS ACCREDITATION CONFIRMS ITS STERN DEDICATION TO NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THROUGH RIGOROUS EVALUATIONS, PERMITTING, INSPECTIONS, AND PLAN REVIEWS.
THE DEPARTMENT ALSO MAINTAINED ITS CLASS 6 COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM CERTIFICATION, HELPING RESIDENTS SECURE FLOOD INSURANCE DISCOUNTS THROUGH ONGOING FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT EFFORTS UNDER THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.
TO UPHOLD BUILDING SAFETY, 95 LETTERS WERE ISSUED UNDER THE BUILDING SAFETY INSPECTION PROGRAM, ADDRESSING MORE THAN 80 BUILDINGS.
THE DEPARTMENT ALSO ISSUED NEARLY 7,200 PERMITS AND GRANTED OVER 600 EXTENSIONS TO RENEW EXPIRED PERMITS AND FINALIZE INSPECTIONS.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S ONGOING COMMITMENT ENSURES TAMARAC'S INFRASTRUCTURE IS SAFE, EFFICIENT, AND PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE.
>> TAMARAC'S POPULATION IS GROWING, AND THE WORK TO BUILD A BETTER TOMORROW STARTS TODAY.
WITH THE INFLUX OF PROSPECTIVE RESIDENTS AND THE CHANGE IN DESIRES OF LIFELONG RESIDENTS, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO LAY THE FRAMEWORK FOR EXCELLENCE TO MEET ALL NEEDS.
IN 2024, THROUGH THE FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS PROGRAM, THE DEPARTMENT PROUDLY ASSISTED 17 HOUSEHOLDS IN PURCHASING THEIR DREAM HOME.
MEANWHILE, THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM PROVIDED MORTGAGE, RENT, AND HOA RELIEF TO 194 FAMILIES EXPERIENCING FINANCIAL HARDSHIP.
OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO ENSURE THAT RESIDENTS NEEDS ARE MET.
THROUGH THE TAMARAC BEAUTIFICATION MINOR HOME REPAIR EFFORT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSISTED 26 INCOME ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDS, PRIMARILY SENIORS AND SPECIAL NEEDS RESIDENTS.
WITH REPAIRS TO ESSENTIAL SYSTEMS SUCH AS ROOFS, WINDOWS, DOORS, ELECTRICAL, AND PLUMBING.
TO MEET COMMUNITY DESIRES AND ELEVATE THE VISUAL APPEAL OF THE CITY'S DISTRICTS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM, THREE COMMUNITY PROJECTS WERE COMPLETED IN 2024.
DISTRICT 1, LAKES OF CARRIAGE HILLS.
$4,100 FOR 31 LED LIGHTS FOR 12 DWELLING BUILDINGS.
DISTRICT 2, FAIR HAVEN 2, $3,077 FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AT THE CLUBHOUSE, FLOWER BEDS, MULCH, AND GROUND COVER.
DISTRICT 4, HOLLY COURT, $4,999 FOR LANDSCAPING AT COMMUNITY ENTRYWAY SIGNS.
THE CITY FOR YOUR LIFE BOASTS AMENITIES BEYOND RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
TAMARAC OFFERS COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE PROPERTIES.
IN 2024, THE CITY WELCOME CULVERS, A POPULAR FAST CASUAL EATERY PERFECT FOR FAMILIES.
PHYSICAL 1, A STATE OF THE ART THERAPY FACILITY, EQUIPPED WITH TOOLS FOR PHYSICAL THERAPY TREATMENTS.
IF YOU'RE CRAVING CHICKEN, A VISIT TO SAVVY SLIDERS WILL DO THE TRICK.
TAMARAC PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS HAD AN OUTSTANDING YEAR, MAKING A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE DAILY LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS AND ENHANCING THE BEAUTY, SAFETY AND RESILIENCE OF OUR CITY.
IN 2024, THE TEAM PRESSURE CLEANED AN IMPRESSIVE 2.6 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF CITY OWNED SIDEWALKS, CURBS, MEDIANS, AND FACILITIES.
ENSURING OUR COMMUNITY LOOKS ITS BEST.
SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY REMAIN TOP PRIORITIES.
THIS YEAR, WE REPLACED 567 FEET OF GUARD RAILS AND REPAIRED OVER 6,400 SQUARE FEET OF SIDEWALKS.
ADDITIONALLY, 140 YARDS OF TRASH WERE COLLECTED CITYWIDE TO MAINTAIN CLEANLINESS.
WE MADE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS BY INSTALLING FOUR NEW GENERATORS, ONE RE-PURPOSE GENERATOR, AND SEVEN TRANSFER SWITCHES AT VERRES LIFT STATION, INCLUDING THOSE SERVING OUR LOCAL HOSPITAL AND SCHOOLS, ENSURING CONTINUED OPERATION DURING EMERGENCIES.
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DEPARTMENT ALSO CLEANED 79,000 LINEAR FEET OF STORM WATER PIPES AND 217,000 LINEAR FEET OF SEWER PIPES, WHILE ALSO VIDEO INSPECTING OVER 222,000 FEET OF SEWER LINES.THESE PROACTIVE MEASURES HELP PREVENT COSTLY REPAIRS AND MAINTAIN SYSTEM RELIABILITY.
OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT PROCESSED 24 PLUS BILLION GALLONS, SERVICING NEARLY 70,000 CUSTOMERS IN WEST TAMARAC.
OPERATIONS INCLUDED EXTENSIVE TESTING AT SOURCE WATER TREATMENT, DISTRIBUTION, AND IN HOME QUALITY CHECKS.
THE PLANT ALSO UPGRADED FILTERS AND COMPLETED PAINTING IMPROVEMENTS ON TREATMENT AND STORAGE FACILITIES.
TO ENHANCE CYBERSECURITY, THE SCATTER AND NETWORK SYSTEMS AT THE WATER PLANT WERE UPGRADED.
OPERATIONS AND THE LAB TEAMS ENSURED FULL REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, INCLUDING NEW MANDATES WHILE PREPARING FOR FUTURE REQUIREMENTS.
THE CITY ALSO ACQUIRED PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE WATER PLANT, PAVING THE WAY FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.
EACH OF THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS REFLECTS THE DEDICATION, EXPERTISE, AND COLLABORATION OFF OUR PUBLIC SERVICES TEAM.
THEIR EFFORTS REAFFIRMS OUR COMMITMENT TO BUILDING A STRONGER, SAFER AND MORE VIBRANT COMMUNITY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
>> SAFETY REMAINS A TOP PRIORITY.
TAMARAC'S BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS CREATING A BRIGHTER FUTURE BY IMPLEMENTING A STRATEGIC APPROACH TO IMPROVING SAFETY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY.
TO BOLSTER PUBLIC SAFETY, APPROVAL WAS GRANTED TO ACQUIRE 32 FIXED AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS AND FOUR SPEED TRAILERS.
FROM AUGUST TO NOVEMBER, SEVERAL A LPRS WERE INSTALLED IN TAMARAC.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF THREE PHASES WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER PLANNED FOR THE FINAL PHASE OF THIS PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE.
COMMUNITY SAFETY DOESN'T STOP THERE.
IN 2024, THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE, TAMARAC DISTRICT, ALONG WITH LOCAL PARTNERS LIKE HCA WOODMONT HOSPITAL, LED A JOINT ACTIVE KILLER TRAINING DRILL, ENSURING THEY'RE PREPARED FOR THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
AUTO THEFT IS A NATIONWIDE PROBLEM.
WE'RE THANKFUL TO OUR BSO DETECTIVES AND DEPUTIES WHO MADE 17 ARRESTS AND RECOVERED SEVEN STOLEN CARS IN 2024.
WITH THE INFORMATION GATHERED BY BSO TAMARAC, NEIGHBORING CITIES ALSO RECEIVED ASSISTANCE WITH SIMILAR SUSPECTED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
RESIDENTS, WE HEAR YOU AND ALWAYS WANT TO ENSURE OUR STREETS ARE SAFE.
IN LATE FALL, BSO TAMARAC PARTNERED WITH THE BSO NORTH LAUDERDALE DISTRICT TO PATROL BAYLOR ROAD, EDUCATING DRIVERS ON TRAFFIC LAWS, REDUCING SPEEDING, AND ENHANCING ROAD SAFETY.
THIS IS AN EXCELLENT STEP TO ENSURING SAFER ROADS FOR MOTORISTS, CYCLISTS, AND PEDESTRIANS.
BEYOND TECHNOLOGY, BSO ALSO PRIDES ITSELF ON INTERPERSONAL INITIATIVES.
BSO MET REGULARLY WITH FAITH BASED LEADERS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO STRENGTHEN THE PERSONA OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND ENHANCE RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
WITH 132 DEDICATED RESPONDERS ACROSS FOUR FIRE STATIONS, TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE IS READY, 24/7 FOR ANY EMERGENCIES.
OUR INTERNATIONALLY ACCREDITED ISO CLASS 1 FIRE DEPARTMENT WORKS CLOSELY WITH BROWARD COUNTY'S CLOSEST RESPONSE PROGRAM TO PROTECT TAMARAC IN OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES.
IN 2024, WE RESPONDED TO OVER 14,000 CALLS, THAT'S NEARLY 40 CALLS EVERY DAY.
IN OCTOBER, WE EXPANDED OUR COVERAGE WITH A FULL TIME FIRE ENGINE AT STATION 36, FURTHER STRENGTHENING EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
EVERYONE LOVES TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE.
OUR DEDICATED CREWS EXCEL THIS YEAR, EARNING TOP HONORS IN SEVERAL COMPETITIONS.
OUR ALS TEAM IS THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WINNING THE FLORIDA CUP FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW.
OUR CADET TEAM ALSO TOOK THIRD AT THE INAUGURAL FIRE CADET COMPETITION.
WE'RE PROACTIVE ABOUT PREVENTION, TWO.
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS, TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE HOSTED TWO SMOKE ALARM EVENTS IN 2024, INSTALLING 250 ALARMS IN TAMARAC HOMES.
WE ALSO TRAINED 120 INDIVIDUALS THROUGH OUR CPR AND AED CLASSES.
VISIT TAMARAC.ORG/CPR TO SIGN UP FOR AN UPCOMING CLASS AND LEARN HOW TO SAVE A LIFE.
YOU KNOW FIREFIGHTERS NOW RESPOND TO MORE FALLS AND FIRES AMONG OLDER ADULTS.
TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE HAS ADDRESSED THIS MATTER BY GIVING AWAY NEARLY 1,000 PAIRS OF SLIP RESISTANT SOCKS, STOP BY FIRE STATION 15 FOR YOUR FREE PAIR AND HELP PREVENT FALLS AT HOME.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SAFETY IS MORE THAN A PRIORITY.
TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE AND BSO PROUDLY SERVE AND PROTECT THIS INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY.
>> TAMARAC EMBRACES TECHNOLOGY TO DESIGN AND IMPLEMENT ROBUST SAFETY MEASURES,
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FOSTERING COMMUNITY TRUST AND PEACE OF MIND.THIS EFFORT ENHANCES OUR ABILITY TO SAFEGUARD RESIDENTS AND THEIR DATA.
ADDITIONALLY, WE CONTINUE TO BOLSTER CYBERSECURITY MEASURES, ENSURING THAT TAMARAC REMAINS RESILIENT AGAINST EVOLVING DIGITAL THREATS.
PRESIDENTS INFORMED, TAMARAC TV AND TAMARAC RADIO WE LAUNCHED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR STAYING CONNECTED.
THESE INNOVATIONS ENABLE REAL-TIME INFORMATION THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.
FLEET TRACKING TECHNOLOGY WAS ALSO INTRODUCED TO ENHANCE MANAGEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE CITY'S VEHICLES.
WITH FEATURES LIKE TRIP HISTORY, FUEL USAGE, MONITORING, AND REAL TIME ALERTING CAPABILITIES, THIS INITIATIVE BOOSTS OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND TRANSPARENCY.
WE LIVE HALF THE CALENDAR YEAR IN HURRICANE SEASON.
TO ENSURE UNINTERRUPTED CONNECTIVITY DURING EMERGENCIES, WE DEPLOY STALLING, A SATELLITE-BASED INTERNET SOLUTION THAT SERVES AS A BACKUP DURING HURRICANE RELATED OUTAGES.
ITS BEEN A BUSY YEAR FOR THE TAMARAC INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT.
THEIR EFFORTS DIDN'T GO UNRECOGNIZED AS OUR CITY RECEIVED THE DIGITAL CITIES AWARD, THE GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE AWARD FROM THE CENTER FOR DIGITAL GOVERNMENT, THE CITIZEN EXPERIENCE AWARD FROM THE CENTRAL SQUARE TECHNOLOGIES, AND THE TECHNOLOGY ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FROM THE FLORIDA LOCAL GOVERNMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS ASSOCIATIONS FOR INNOVATIVE USE OF TECHNOLOGY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.
TO BUILD A BETTER TOMORROW, WE BEGIN TO WORK TODAY, AND FINANCIAL SERVICES SHOWCASES THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR.
IN 2024, THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION PRESENTED THE CITY WITH THE GFOAS EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING AWARD, AND A DISTINGUISHED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND 2024 BUDGET.
IN ADDITION, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A 20 YEAR CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE, OUTSTANDING COMMITMENT TO CONTINUING DISCLOSURE REPORTING FOR MUNICIPAL BONDS UNDERSCORING ITS COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> BUILDING A BETTER TOMORROW TAKES A VILLAGE, AND TEAM TAMARAC IS EQUIPPED FOR THE CHALLENGE.
IN 2024, HUMAN RESOURCES RECEIVED THE 2023 CIGNA GOLD LEVEL HEALTHY WORKFORCE DISTINCTION FOR THE FOURTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR.
ACCORDING TO CIGNA, THIS AWARD SIGNIFIES THAT TAMARAC HAS MANY TEAM MEMBER PROGRAMS SUPPORTING ITS COMMITMENT TO EMPLOYEES' WELLNESS AND HEALTH EQUITY.
TO FOSTER ENGAGEMENT, HR ESTABLISHED DEPARTMENTAL CELEBRATIONS, DURING WHICH HUMAN RESOURCES STAFF BROUGHT TEAM TAMARAC MEMBERS TOGETHER OVER LIGHT BREAKFAST AND RELATIONSHIP BUILDING ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT HAS CONTINUED TO CONCENTRATE ON ENSURING THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC REMAINS A DYNAMIC WORKPLACE BY ATTRACTING AND RETAINING A SKILLED WORKFORCE TO ENSURE THE CITY'S GOALS AND ACTIONS ARE EXECUTED.
ADDITIONALLY, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WAS LAUNCHED, CREATING A CUSTOMIZABLE PLATFORM THAT EMPOWERS MANAGERS TO SET AND TRACK PERFORMANCE GOALS, CONDUCT EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS, AND PROVIDE ONGOING FEEDBACK.
THE SYSTEM ALSO PROVIDES EMPLOYEES WITH TOOLS TO OWN THEIR REVIEWS, WHICH IS CRUCIAL TO PROMOTING BETTER WORKING RELATIONSHIPS AND A MORE CAPABLE WORKFORCE.
ALONGSIDE THESE ACHIEVEMENTS, TEAM TAMARAC CONCLUDED THE YEAR WITH OVER 100 NEW HIRES AND 28 PROMOTIONS, EMPHASIZING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO PROFESSIONAL GROWTH WITHIN ITS WORKFORCE OF OVER 420 EMPLOYEES.
>> AS WE CLOSE THE CHAPTER ON 2024, ONE THING REMAINS CLEAR, TAMARAC IS A CITY ON THE MOVE.
OUR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE AND ACTION, BUILDING FOR TOMORROW HAS TRANSFORMED IDEAS INTO IMPACT, ASPIRATIONS INTO ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND CHALLENGES INTO OPPORTUNITIES, BUT OUR WORK IS FAR FROM OVER.
WITH EVERY NEW PROJECT, EVERY INNOVATIVE PROGRAM, AND EVERY SERVICE THAT ENHANCES OUR CITY, WE CONTINUE TO LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR AN EVEN STRONGER, SAFER, AND MORE VIBRANT TAMARAC.
TOGETHER, WE ARE SHAPING A CITY THAT DOESN'T JUST MEET TODAY'S NEEDS, BUT ANTICIPATES TOMORROW'S POSSIBILITIES.
THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF THIS JOURNEY, AND HERE'S TO AN EVEN GREATER YEAR AHEAD.
[APPLAUSE] WELL, LET'S GIVE IT UP AGAIN FOR OUR WONDERFUL TEAM TAMARAC, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
WE HAVE SUCH GREAT THINGS HAPPENED IN '24, AND WE KNOW THAT '25 WILL BE EVEN BETTER, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF IT.
NOW IT IS OUR PLEASURE, WELL, PLEASURE MIGHT BE A HARD WORD, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS A PROCLAMATION THAT WAS REQUESTED BY VICE MAYOR DR. KICIA DANIEL,
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REGARDING CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION.CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH PROCLAMATION WILL BE PRESENTED TO TRACY GRAHAM, COMMUNICATIONS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER OF CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL OF BROWARD COUNTY.
ARE YOU HERE TODAY? THERE YOU ARE.
SORRY. [APPLAUSE] GOOD TO SEE YOU. THIS IS YOURS.
>> WHEREAS FLORIDA'S BRIGHT FUTURE DEPENDS ON HEALTHY DEVELOPMENT AND WELL-BEING OF ITS CHILDREN, AND WHEREAS ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, INCLUDING THE ABUSE AND NEGLECT OF CHILDREN, CAN HAVE SEVERE AND LONG LASTING CONSEQUENCES FOR CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.
WHEREAS EVERY CHILD HAS A RIGHT TO A SAFE, HEALTHY AND HAPPY AND CHILDHOOD WHERE THEY ARE SUPPORTED IN ACHIEVING THEIR EDUCATIONAL AND DEVELOPMENT MILESTONES.
WHEREAS RESEARCH DEMONSTRATES THAT PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS WHO STRONG SUPPORT SYSTEMS AND ACCESS TO RESOURCES ARE MORE RESILIENT AND BETTER EQUIPPED TO PROVIDE SAFE, NURTURING ENVIRONMENTS FOR THEIR CHILDREN.
WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR INDIVIDUALS, SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO PRIORITIZE CHILDREN AND TAKE ACTION TO SUPPORT THEIR PHYSICAL, SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL, AND EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
WHEREAS THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL OF BROWARD COUNTY IS COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING FAMILIES BY FUNDING FAMILY SUPPORT PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO REDUCE INCIDENT AND IMPACT OF CHILD ABUSE, NEGLECT, AND TRAUMA.
THESE PROGRAMS STABILIZE FAMILIES IN CRISIS, PROMOTE POSITIVE PARENTING STRATEGIES, PREVENT OUT-OF-THE-HOME PLACEMENTS, AND REDUCE INVOLVEMENT IN THE DEPENDENCY SYSTEM.
WHEREAS BROWARD AWARE!, A COUNTY-WIDE CAMPAIGN LED BY THE CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL AND ITS PARTNERS, AIM TO RAISE AWARENESS OF CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION BY PROMOTING HEALTHY CHILD DEVELOPMENT, POSITIVE PARENTING PRACTICES, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WHEREAS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH PROVIDES AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE ALL FLORIDIANS TO PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES THAT STRENGTHEN FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES, CREATING ENVIRONMENTS WHERE CHILDREN CAN THRIVE.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, MICHELLE J. GOMEZ, VERY PROUD MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ON BEHALF OF OUR WONDERFUL COMMISSION, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2025 AS ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN EFFORTS TO SUPPORT THE WELL-BEING OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. [APPLAUSE].
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
>> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME PHOTOS. I GOT [INAUDIBLE]
>> THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC FOR YOUR COMMITMENT IN KEEPING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES SAFE, AND THANK YOU FOR PROCLAIMING APRIL AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.
>> WE'RE GOING TO INVITE LORI MORTON, THE ASSOCIATE VICE PRESIDENT OF STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS AND EMPLOYMENT SOLUTIONS, TO COME FORWARD AND PROVIDE US A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM OF BROWARD COLLEGE ENTREPRENEURSHIP EXPERIENCE, SMALL BUSINESS BOOTCAMP.
ACTUALLY, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT LORI MORTON.
SHE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY AS OF FIVE O'CLOCK.
I'M VERY PROUD TO REPRESENT BROWARD COLLEGE, AND THE BROWARD COLLEGE ENTREPRENEURSHIP EXPERIENCE WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT AIMS TO INSPIRE, TO FOSTER, AND TO INSTRUCT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO TAKE THEIR BUSINESSES TO THE NEXT LEVEL, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
WE HAVE A FEW STUDENTS THAT HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS, AND SOME OTHERS THAT ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF EXECUTING OUR BCEX ACCELERATOR.
WHAT WE DO IS WE HELP SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS VALIDATE BUSINESS IDEAS BEFORE THEY JUMP AND ACTUALLY LAUNCH THEIR BUSINESSES.
WHAT A WAY TO HELP THEM, WHAT A WAY TO PREVENT THE CURRENT STATISTICS.
TWENTY PERCENT OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WILL FAIL IN YEAR 1, AND 50% IN YEAR 5.
WE HELP THEM VALIDATE THE IDEAS.
WE USE METHODOLOGIES USED AT IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS HERE AT BROWARD COLLEGE.
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VERY PROUD TO REPRESENT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.[APPLAUSE] DO YOU WANT TO [INAUDIBLE] YES, WE HAVE THE CERTIFICATES. I KNOW I SIGNED IT.
>> WE'RE NOT SURE IF THEY'RE HERE. MS. FAITH RICHARDS? MS. FAITH, COME ON UP.
[LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE] YOU WON A BROCHURE.
CONGRATULATIONS, MS. FAITH, FOR AN AMAZING JOB IN THE BCEX BOOTCAMP AND CURRENTLY IN THE BCEX ACCELERATOR.
>> PICTURE, PLEASE. [APPLAUSE]
>> YES. CONGRATULATIONS, MR. HANZ CADET. THERE IT IS.
[APPLAUSE] WOULD MS. OLGA ALVARADO BE HERE BY CHANCE? SHE'S PROBABLY BUSY RUNNING HER BUSINESS.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD OF YOU, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO OPENING UP BUSINESSES RIGHT HERE IN TAMARAC.
WELL, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE OUR ACTING CAPTAIN, CHRISTOPHER PALAMARA, HERE TO PRESENT THE BSO UPDATE. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, MR. CITY MANAGER, GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS REPORT TO YOU.
JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC WITH BSO IN THE MONTH OF MARCH, WE HANDLED 4,053 CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE YEAR.
OF THOSE CALLS, 84 OF THEM WERE PART 1 CRIMES, WHICH THE THREE LEADING CRIMES THAT WE STILL EXPERIENCE IN TAMARAC ARE THEFT, SHOPLIFTING, AND CAR BURGLARY.
FOR THE YEAR, WE'RE DOWN 14% IN THE NUMBER OF CRIMES YEAR TO YEAR, BUT AUTO THEFT DID INCREASE UP TO 11 IN THE MONTH OF MARCH.
IN TALKING WITH CRIME SUPPRESSION, THERE WAS ONE RASH OF THREE CARS ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN THAT WERE RELATED TO AN ARREST THAT WAS MADE IN LAUDERDALE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BSO BAT TEAM AND FORT LAUDERDALE POLICE, USING THE GRAPPLER.
OF THE OTHER LONG-TERM TREND WITH AUTO THEFT IS HONDA CRVS.
WE'VE HAD 15 OF THOSE STOLEN OVER THE PAST 14 MONTHS.
WHILE CST BELIEVES THERE HAS BEEN SOME HEADWAY MADE INTO ONE OF THE CREWS THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT, WE'RE STILL MONITORING THAT SITUATION.
AGAIN, OVERALL VIOLENT CRIME WAS UP 32%, PROPERTY CRIME DOWN 18%.
JUST TO GO OVER SOME NOTABLE ARRESTS WE MADE, THERE WAS A WARRANT ARREST MADE FROM AN OAKLAND PARK, ATTEMPTED HOMICIDE, AN ARMED ROBBERY THAT WAS FACILITATED BY THE LPR SYSTEM.
WHEN OUR CST DETECTIVES HAD TO HIT ON THAT, THEY LOCATED THE SUBJECT IN A NEARBY HOTEL PROPERTY AND MADE THE ARREST.
LPRS WERE ALSO USED TO FACILITATE THE ARREST OF AN ARMED ROBBERY FROM PEOPLE THAT BRANDISHED A KNIFE WHILE CONDUCTING A RETAIL THEFT.
USING THE LPR AND THE DESCRIPTION MADE, THIS VEHICLE WAS LOCATED NEAR SUNRISE BOULEVARD AND 31ST AVENUE, AND ARREST ON THREE SUBJECTS WERE MADE ON THAT ONE.
CST HAS ALSO DONE A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH CODE COMPLAINTS AND OTHER CITIZEN COMPLAINTS TO MAKE ARRESTS FOR DRUG ACTIVITY IN LAKESIDE PLAZA.
A TRAFFICKING WEIGHT OF NARCOTICS WAS LOCATED AND ARRESTED ON THAT ONE.
THEY ALSO WORKED SUCCESSFULLY WITH THE BSO BAT TEAM TO FIND A POSTAL EMPLOYEE WHO WAS GOING TO BE ENGAGING IN MAIL THEFT, THAT I KNOW WAS NEAR AND DEAR TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC AS WELL,
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SO WE HELPED SOLVE THAT CRIME AS WELL.LASTLY, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF POSITIVE USE OF LPRS WAS GOING TO HIT AND RUN ONE OF OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE HAD A TAG THAT WAS GIVEN.
OUR DEPUTY WAS KEEN ENOUGH TO USE THE LPR, LOCATE THAT VEHICLE IN THE CITY OF DANIA, MADE CONTACT WITH THE OWNER WHO SUBSEQUENTLY CONFESSED.
MOVING ONTO OUR MOTOR UNIT, OUR MOTOR UNIT HAD 1,079 CITATIONS FROM MARCH OF 2025.
THEY'RE ON PACE TO BEST LAST YEAR, AND THEY'RE ON A VERY GOOD PACE.
DURING THE MONTH OF MARCH, THEY ENGAGED IN OPERATION SAFE STREETS, WHICH OVER THE COURSE OF ABOUT NINE DAYS RESULTED IN 293 TICKETS.
TO ECHO THE TAMARAC VIDEO WE JUST WATCHED, WE ENGAGED IN A SECOND BAILEY BLITZ IN CONJUNCTION WITH NORTH LAUDERDALE.
ON THAT DATE, THEY ISSUED 43 CITATIONS, INCLUDING A 94 AND A 35, WHICH IS QUITE SHOCKING.
BUT AGAIN, GREAT KUDOS TO OUR GUYS IN CONJUNCTION WITH NORTH LAUDERDALE MOTORS.
WE HAVE ENGAGED IN OTHER TRAFFIC OPPORTUNITIES ON SOUTHGATE, WHERE WE RECEIVED A SURPRISINGLY LOW AMOUNT AND CONTINUED TO MONITOR STREETS LIKE 77TH STREET, 81ST STREET, AND ALL THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
WE'RE ALSO HELPING CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH TRACTOR TRAILER AND ILLEGAL PARKING ON STREET ROADWAYS AND OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE WITH LARGER VEHICLES, PARKED WHERE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE.
FINALLY, IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE DID FOUR WELCOME HOME INITIATIVES IN VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS.
TAMARAC UNIVERSITY VERY PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE DID GET THE TOP SCORE, AND BARRY BERHOW CONTINUES TO BE A GUIDING LIGHT FOR US.
HE'S LEADING US AGAIN WITH THE TORCH RUN, SO YOU'LL SEE HIM AT THE PETER COTTONTAIL EVENT ON SATURDAY.
HE'LL KEEP DOING THAT. WE'LL ALSO HAVE A TIP-A-COP AT APPLEBEE'S ON APRIL 23RD.
THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE WELCOME HOME INITIATIVES LED BY OUR OWN JARED WEISS.
MAY 17, THERE'S THE SHRED-A-THON AT KINGS POINT WHERE CITIZENS CAN TURN IN EXPIRED MEDICATIONS FOR DESTRUCTION.
LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST, THE VACANCIES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN GETTING US THE NINE EXTRA BODIES WE'LL SOON TO BE FILLING.
OF THAT, ALL OF THOSE BODIES HAVE BEEN RELEASED FOR ACTIVITY, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY FILLING THEM.
WE ANTICIPATE TO GET, I BELIEVE, FOUR OF THEM BY THE END OF MAY.
FROM THE MOST RECENT ACADEMY GRADUATION, WE'RE DOING THE INTERVIEWS ON THE CRIME ANALYST, SO THAT SHOULD BE FILLED IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A SECOND ROUND OF INTERVIEWS TO REALLY REFINE THE CANDIDATES.
THEN TWO CSAS, I BELIEVE IN TALKING TO HUMAN RESOURCES, WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE ASSIGNED TO US IN THE NEXT MONTH AND A HALF OR SO.
I'M LOOKING TO RAPIDLY FILL ANY VACANCIES WE HAVE AND MAKE SURE WE REALLY ATTACK VISIBILITY AND ENFORCEMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
>> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> I'M ALL RIGHT IF ANY QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CAPTAIN, IF I CAN ASK YOU THROUGH THE MANAGER, A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO HEAR SOME STATISTICS AROUND ANY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INITIATIVES.
I KNOW THAT WHEN I REQUESTED BSO TO START DOING THESE REPORTS, A PART OF MY REQUEST WAS THAT BSO TAMARAC START WORKING ON SOME DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INITIATIVES.
CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE WITH THAT?
>> WELL, YES, MA'AM. ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE NEW PCN WAS GOING TO BE ADDING A DETECTIVE TO OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT, THAT AT LEAST HALF OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY WILL FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENTS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER BSO DISTRICTS ARE DOING IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT IS POSSIBLE TO BE HANDED OUT TO VICTIMS OF CRIMES, SPECIFICALLY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS IN A CONSTANT TYPE PACKAGE THAT WE CAN HAND TO ALL OUR DEPUTIES AND MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE VICTIMS HAS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND IS REVIEWED BY THE DEPUTIES.
>> THE DETECTIVE WILL BE ONE THAT WILL BE CONDUCTING SPECIFIC FOLLOW-UP ON THOSE CASES TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY CLAIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAVE A THOROUGH REVIEW BY SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY TRAINED IN THAT AREA.
>> I KNOW, MANAGER, I HAD MENTIONED THAT MISS KATE JOHNSON MENTIONED AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER THAT SHE IS PRETTY SKILLED WITH RESPECT TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
I THINK BEYOND LITERATURE, WE NEED SOME, HANDS-ON APPROACH TO THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD IN OUR CITY, AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RALLY AROUND SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT THE EXPERTISE, IF NEED BE, OR MAYBE WE NEED TO ALL SIT TOGETHER AND DO A STRATEGY SESSION ON WHAT A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INITIATIVE SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN OUR CITY.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY, AND I'D LIKE THAT WE MOVE THAT FORWARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
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MY SECOND QUESTION TO YOU, CAPTAIN, IS, YOU MENTIONED THE NINE OFFICERS THAT WERE BUDGETED LAST YEAR.I KNOW THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE NINE OFFICERS AND THESE POSITIONS BEING FILLED.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL OFFICERS SUSPENDED FROM TAMARAC POLICE.
MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WE'RE DOWN 9, 10 OFFICERS BECAUSE OF THE INCIDENT, AND WE'RE STILL DOWN NINE OFFICERS THAT WE WERE BUDGETED FOR, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> WE'RE STILL WAITING ON BODIES, AND WE HAVE LOST BODIES.
>> THE BODIES ARE TEMPORARILY LOST TO THE RESTRICTED DUTY.
OF THE NINE BODIES THAT ARE ALLOCATED BY THE CITY, THREE ARE CURRENTLY IN ACTION.
THEY'VE BEEN DEPLOYED IN THE FIELD, AND OF THE OTHER SIX, I AGAIN ANTICIPATE.
WE HAVE ONE CERTIFIED LATERAL HIRE COMING IN APRIL 28, AND I ANTICIPATE GETTING APPROXIMATELY THREE FROM THE ACADEMY GRADUATING CLASS ON MAY 9.
THAT WILL LEAVE US WITH, I BELIEVE, TWO TRUE VACANCIES THAT BSO IS WORKING TO FILL IN TERMS OF DEPUTIES.
>> IN TERMS OF THE NEW POSITIONS.
>> CORRECT. THEN TO ADDRESS YOUR POINT ABOUT THE NINE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN RESTRICTED DUTY, BSO IS WORKING THROUGH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION PROCESS.
I ANTICIPATE I HAVE REASONABLE HOPE THAT WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST SOME OF THOSE PERSONNEL BACK, HOPEFULLY AS SOMETIME JUNE TO JULY.
BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE FULL SERVICES TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC WITH THE PERSONNEL THAT WE HAVE.
>> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE GET OUR TAMARAC POLICE STAFFED.
WE HAVE A CITY OF 70,000 PLUS PEOPLE.
UNFORTUNATELY, A SITUATION OCCURRED THAT PUT US IN THIS PREDICAMENT.
AND I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTE PRIORITY THAT WE GET THE NUMBERS BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE AT LEAST OR SHOULD BE AT MINIMUM.
THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE AT STAKE.
EVERY TIME I TURN ON THE NEWS, EVERY TIME I LOOK AT A BLOG, THERE IS SOME ISSUE IN OUR CITY, AND WE JUST CANNOT STAND TO BE UNDER STAFFED IN TERMS OF OUR POLICE FORCE.
I JUST WANT TO CREATE URGENCY AND ENSURE THAT MANAGER THAT YOU ARE ENSURING THAT BSO IS PRIORITIZING THE STAFFING SITUATION THAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CAPTAIN, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I KNOW THAT WE SPOKE WITH YOUR PREDECESSOR BEFORE ABOUT BAYLOR ROAD IN PARTICULAR.
IT'S THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT.
BAYLOR ROAD IS SITUATED IN THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT, AND WE ASKED THAT BAYLOR ROAD BE DESIGNATED AS A ZERO-TOLERANCE ROAD FOR WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC.
I'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS FOR BAYLOR ROAD, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME SOME TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF NORTH LAUDERDALE, BSO, WHAT ARE THE TIMES THE TIME OF DAY THAT YOU PARTNER?
>> TYPICALLY, SIR, BECAUSE THEY'RE MOTOR UNITS, THEY'RE DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS.
USUALLY 0800 TO ABOUT 6:00 P.M.
>> ONE OF THE ISSUES ON BAYLOR ROAD IS DRAG RACING LATE AT NIGHT AFTER MIDNIGHT.
THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY AT BERMUDA CLUB AND AT LAKES OF CARRIAGE HILLS.
THE DRAG RACING IS OUT OF CONTROL.
IT PRESENTS FOR MAJOR ACCIDENTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.
>> WITHOUT A DOUBT, SIR, I WILL GET THAT WITH SERGEANT GORMAN AND THE CRIME SUPPRESSION TEAM.
I WILL ALSO TALK WITH MY PATROL DEPUTIES.
AS YOU'RE AWARE IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THERE WAS A STREET TAKEOVER EPIDEMIC THAT WAS PLAGUED IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA.
I KNOW THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR COALITION THAT BSO PUT TOGETHER IN CONJUNCTION WITH MANY OTHER AGENCIES AND HELPED SUPPRESS THAT SIGNIFICANTLY.
IF THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF BEHAVIOR, I'LL BE HAPPY TO EMPLOY OTHER MEANS OUTSIDE OF THE TAMARAC DISTRICT, INCLUDING BSO BAT, IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR CST TEAM TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I'LL HAVE SERGEANT GORMAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU, SIR.
>> WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR BAYLOR ROAD GOING FORWARD? WILL THIS CONTINUE, OR THIS IS JUST A BAYLOR ROAD BLITZ, SO TO SPEAK?
>> I THINK THE BAYLOR ROAD BLITZES WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE I THINK BOTH CITIES HAVE FOUND THEM MUTUALLY SUCCESSFUL, AND WHEN YOU HAVE MUTUAL SUCCESS, IT BREEDS REPETITION.
I THINK WE'LL BE DOING THAT AT LEAST QUARTERLY, BUT I CAN ENSURE THAT IT GETS DONE ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS IF THAT'S OF YOUR PREFERENCE, SIR.
>> IT SEEMED LIKE YOUR FOCUSES MORE ON SPEEDING.
WHAT ABOUT OTHER CHECKPOINTS? WILL YOU BE PARTNERING WITH OTHER AGENCIES,
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PROBABLY FEDERAL AGENCIES TO DO ANY OTHER STOPS ON BAYLOR ROAD?>> I'M NOT SURE WHAT FEDERAL AGENCIES WOULD HAVE TO DO ON BAYLOR ROAD, SIR.
>> WILL YOU BE WORKING WITH ANY IMMIGRATION DEPARTMENTS TO STOP ANY PEDESTRIANS ON BAYLOR ROAD OR ANY OTHER STREETS IN TAMARAC?
>> AS FAR AS I KNOW, SIR, BSO HAS NO PLANS FOR THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU, THE CITY OF TAMARAC, I WOULD NOT BE DOING ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF BSO, SO THE CITY OF TAMARAC DISTRICT DOES NOT.
>> HAVE YOU LOOKED AT PROSPECT ROAD? THAT IS ALSO A MAJOR CONCERN.
PROSPECT ROAD, I THINK, FROM DIXIE, BUT THAT'S NOT IN TAMARAC.
IT COMES THROUGH PROSPECT ROAD TO COMMERCIAL THEN THROUGH COMMERCIAL DOWN TO 31ST AVENUE.
>> HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT STRETCH AS WELL?
>> AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN HERE AND MY NOW GOING ON, WHAT MY PREVIOUS TOUR HERE WAS ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
MY 20 MONTHS, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING EVER ABOUT TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS ON PROSPECT.
THIS IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING THAT, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT, SIR.
>> ACTUALLY, THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CITY ERECTED A WALL ALONG PROSPECT ROAD SO THAT IT PROTECTS THE PROPERTY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ALONG PROSPECT ROAD.
YOUR PREDECESSOR DID SET UP SOME JUST LIKE HOW YOU WORKED ALONG WITH THE CITY OF NORTH LAUDERDALE'S BSO HAVING THESE BLITZ.
THERE WERE BLITZ ALONG PROSPECT ROAD AS WELL, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS NOT FORGOTTEN.
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT, SIR. I'LL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH ANY SPECIFIC DETAILS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT TIMES A DAY OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE CAN FOCUS OUR ATTENTION TO HELP ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTATION, CAPTAIN.
I ALWAYS GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOT SEEING ENOUGH PATROL IN THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY.
DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE PATROL IN THAT COMMUNITY, WITH ANY OFFICERS?
>> WELL, I THINK THAT WITH THE EXTRA PERSONNEL THAT YOU'VE BEEN ALLOTTED TO US, I THINK THE EASTSIDE IN GENERAL, GIVEN THE CITY'S UNIQUE GEOGRAPHY, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PRESENCE ON THE EASTSIDE.
THAT WAY, IF WE DO HAVE ANYTHING HAPPENING EAST OF THE TURNPIKE, WE HAVE EXTRA PERSONNEL THAT CAN RAPIDLY RESPOND.
I THINK HAVING PERSONNEL THAT VICINITY WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PRESENCE IN AND AROUND THE WOODLANDS AREA AS WELL.
>> BY THE AMPHITHEATER, I THINK YOU AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION A FEW WEEKS AGO.
WHEN YOU RETURNED, I MENTIONED THAT I SEE A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE HANGING ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN BY THE AMPHITHEATRE BY COMMERCIAL.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD AN INCIDENT A FEW DAYS AGO.
YOU PROBABLY CAN'T COMMENT ON THE INCIDENT, BUT WAS THERE ANY FOUL PLAY INVOLVED IN THAT INCIDENT AT HAMPTON HILLS?
>> NOT THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. IN REGARDS TO THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN PLUM BAY, IN READING, WHERE WE DROPPED THE BALL, IT WAS A RED FLAG LAW.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY IMPLEMENTATIONS IN PLACE SO WE CAN BE MUCH MORE AWARE OF THOSE SITUATIONS?
>> I REMEMBER THE INCIDENT, BUT WITH THE QUESTION REGARDS TO THE RED FLAG LAW [OVERLAPPING].
>> OBVIOUSLY, SOMEONE DIDN'T FOLLOW UP ON A RED FLAG LAW, DIDN'T CONFISCATE THE WEAPON FROM THE PERSON.
I'M SAYING HAVE PROCEDURES BEEN CHANGED WHEN IT COMES TO THE RED FLAG SITUATION WHERE PERHAPS DOWNTOWN IS NOTIFIED IF SOMEONE AT A LOCAL OFFICE DON'T FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING?
>> WELL, I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE DETAILS OF THE INVESTIGATION OF WHAT WAS NOT FOLLOWED UP ON CORRECTLY OR NOT.
I CAN SAY THERE HAS BEEN OBVIOUSLY INCREASED SCRUTINY ON EVERY SITUATION, BE IT A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR BE IT A RISK PROTECTION ORDER OR RESTRAINING ORDER.
I THINK THAT OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WOULD BE TELLING YOU THAT, YES, THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN RISK PROTECTION ORDERS FILED.
THAT HAS RESULTED IN A GREATER CLARIFICATION OF WHAT WOULD APPLY, WHAT WOULDN'T APPLY AND GREATER EDUCATION OF OUR PERSONNEL TO ENSURE WE'LL BE AS EXACT AS POSSIBLE.
MANY SITUATIONS WITH RISK PROTECTION ORDERS ARE OBVIATED BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE CONVICTED FELONS ALREADY.
THERE ARE ALREADY RESTRAINING ORDERS IN PLACE, BUT IT IS A MECHANISM WITH RISK PROTECTION ORDER SPECIFICALLY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO INTERVENE AND STEP INTO THE SHOES OF PERHAPS UNWILLING VICTIMS OR UNWILLING PERSONNEL, GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW, WE CAN PUSH FORWARD WITH A RISK PROTECTION ORDER.
AGAIN, THERE'S GREATER EDUCATION BEING DISSEMINATED, BUT THERE'S NO BEEN CHANGE IN POLICY IN ANY REGARD IN THAT REGARD.
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>> FOLLOW-UP ON COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S QUESTIONS, I SAW THAT THE GOVERNOR PASSED A LAW THAT SAYING THAT THE STATE IS GOING TO WORK WITH ICE.
>> AGAIN, I DO NOT BELIEVE SO, SIR.
I'VE HAD NOTHING BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WE WILL BE ENGAGING IN ANY ACTIVITY SUCH AS THAT, BUT I'LL DEFER TO SHERIFF DOCTOR TONY WITH REGARD TO THAT ANSWER.
>> IN TERMS OF THE NINE PERSONNEL THAT WAS SUSPENDED, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE BEAT OFFICERS? I KNOW THERE WAS A CAPTAIN WHICH YOU REPLACED.
THAT'S ONE MINUS ONE. THERE WAS A LIEUTENANT.
THERE WAS A SERGEANT. HOW MANY WERE REGULAR OFFICERS THAT PATROLLED THE STREETS?
>> WELL, ASSIGNED TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC, 01, 2, 3.
>> MOST OF THE OTHER OFFICERS WERE RANK-AND-FILE OFFICERS.
>> WELL, YOU HAD TWO DETECTIVES, AND YOU HAD THREE PATROL OFFICERS.
YOU HAD TWO SERGEANTS, AND YOU HAD A LIEUTENANT.
>> YOU HAD A LIEUTENANT? [OVERLAPPING]
>> THERE ARE OTHER PERSONNEL FROM OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT, AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY, A COUPLE.
>> HAVE YOU REPLACED ANY OF THE DETECTIVES IN TERMS OF SWITCHING SOMEONE IN TEMPORARILY?
>> YES, SIR. WE HAVE TEMPORARILY DETACHED TWO ROAD PERSONNEL THAT ARE ACTING IN THE ROLE OF DETECTIVES AT CURRENT.
THOSE JOBS HAVE BEEN FILLED AND MAINTAINED TO CARRY THE WORKLOAD IN THEIR ABSENCE.
>> OUT OF THOSE NINE, TWO OF THE DETECTIVES THAT WERE SUSPENDED HAS BEEN FILLED TEMPORARILY.
>> JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE NUMBERS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL FOLLOWING UP ON MY COLLEAGUE'S QUESTION, WHO HANDLE CRIMES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
>> IF I MAY, I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF MY PERSONNEL FOR STEPPING UP AND RALLYING IN LIGHT OF THESE SHORT-TERM DEFICIENCIES.
MY TEAM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB TO STEP IN AND FILL THE GAPS, AND I THINK THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE CRIME STATS THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU.
>> HI, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
QUESTION REGARDING THE OFFICERS THAT YOU SAID ARE COMING ON BOARD.
THE REST THREE, YOU SAID FROM [OVERLAPPING] POLICE ACADEMY, AND THAT'S FOUR.
>> WELL, I BELIEVE THOSE OTHER FIVE HAVE BEEN FILLED RECENTLY OR BEEN FILLED WITH PERSONNEL.
I BELIEVE ALL THREE OF THOSE WERE LATERAL HIRES, OR THEY MAY HAVE BEEN FILLED BY EXISTING BSO PERSONNEL TRANSFERRING INTO THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. WE'LL ONLY HAVE THREE NEW BRAND NEW POLICE OFFICERS.
>> WITH THE SEVEN THAT'S ON LEAVE, DID WE GET ANY ADDITIONAL FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO HELP OUT, OR WE'RE JUST USING THE CURRENT OFFICES PLAYING DUAL ROLES OR HOW IS THAT WORKING NOW?
>> NO. WITH OUR EXISTING PERSONNEL, WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE STANDARD OF SERVICE EXPECTED TO US BY THE CONTRACT.
WE HAVE NOT HAD THE NEED TO REQUEST OUTSIDE ASSISTANCE OUTSIDE OF NORMAL PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUTSIDE UNITS, BSO, BAT, VIPER UNITS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT SHOULD WE GET TO A CRITICAL NATURE, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT I CAN DO INTERNALLY, OR I CAN REACH OUT FOR HELP UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND OF BSO TO MAKE SURE THERE IS ZERO DROP IN ANY SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMARAC.
>> BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY THAT, IT APPEARS AS IF WE DIDN'T NEED TO HIRE NEW ONES. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
>> WELL, IT'S INCURRING OVERTIME IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES OR STRAINING.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO GO TO TRAINING.
THEY HAVE MEDICAL ISSUES OF THEIR OWN OR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.
OF COURSE, THAT TAKES A NORMAL SHIFT THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED FOR GREATER ENFORCEMENT, SUPPRESSION-TYPE THINGS.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE DELAYED IN THE SHORT TERM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NINE ZONES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FILL DAY TO DAY.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I CAN SEE YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE'RE MISSING OUT ON GREATER OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC NEEDS LIKE YOU AND YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE BROUGHT UP TO US.
>> THERE IS NO NEED FOR THE EXTRA NINE OFFICERS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY GETTING.
BECAUSE YOU'RE OUT SEVEN, AND WE'VE ONLY HIRED OF THE NINE, WE'VE HIRED THREE.
>> THE THAT'S CURRENTLY WORKING?
>> THAT WOULD MEAN WE'RE SHORT FOR AND YOU SAID THERE'S NO NEED.
>> NO, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THE ADDITIONAL BODIES BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO ASSIST AND ENHANCE THE SERVICES THAT.
>> WHAT ARE WE DOING TO GET THOSE ADDITIONAL BODY? LIKE, TO ME, SHOULDN'T THERE ANOTHER CITY SOMEWHERE BSO HAVE EXTRA BODIES THAT CAN COME TO TAMARAC.
BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS IN THE WAIT TIME, SOMETHING HAPPENS.
>> CORRECT. BUT AGAIN, WE ARE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT ARE WE'RE MAINTAINING OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMARAC WITH THE PERSONNEL WE HAVE.
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IT CAN ONLY BE ENHANCED BY THE EXTRA BODIES COMING IN.THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE BASIC LEVEL OF SERVICES, BUT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EXTRA BODIES THAT ARE PROVIDED, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENHANCE THE LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE YOU.
>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, VICE MAYOR.
I THINK, CAPTAIN IS SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE OUR FULL COMPLEMENT OF BSO STAFFING HERE.
WITH ALL THE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND ALL THE NEW POSITIONS ARE COMING BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW, SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE BODIES IN YET.
WE'RE IN FILLING FROM EXISTING STAFF.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE FILLING FOR THE NINE EXTRA THAT WE DECIDED ON LAST YEAR, SO IT'S BEEN ANOTHER WAY.
>> NO, BUT THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED AS PART OF.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, SO IT'S A BIGGER GAP.
>> TO SAY WE'RE OKAY WITH A BIGGER GAP WITH A INCIDENT THAT JUST OCCURRED TWO MONTHS AGO THAT WAS SO TRAGIC IS NOT GOOD.
>> I'M OKAY WITH IT. IN FACT, I WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY TO THAT.
WE MET WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON MONDAY.
WE MET WITH THE UNDER SHERIFF AND THE OTHER COMMAND STAFF AND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCY IN THE TRI COUNTY AREA, BSO IS ALSO HAVING SUCH A DIFFICULT TIME FINDING OR GOING THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS.
IT'S A DIFFICULTY THAT WE'RE ALL SHARING.
TO HELP WITH THE SITUATION, TO HELP WITH THE COMPETITION, THEY JUST CONDUCTED A CLASS AND COMPENSATION STUDY TO MOVE THEIR COMPENSATIONS UP SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL TO PALM BEACH COUNTY, WHICH IS PAYING MUCH MORE OR TO MIAMI-DADE, ALSO PAYING SO MUCH MORE.
THEY'RE TOTALLY AWARE OF THIS DIFFICULTY, AND THEN THEY'RE DEFINITELY DOING AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO EASE THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS.
>> BUT CITY MANAGER, YOU'RE SAYING EASE THE RECRUITMENT PROBLEM.
BUT IF WE DIDN'T ASK FOR THE NINE, WE WOULD BE SHORT SEVEN.
IS IT 7 OR 9 THAT YOU GUYS SUSPENDED?
>> NINE. WE WOULD BE SHORT NINE.
WE'RE IN A WORSE SITUATION THAN WE WAS LAST YEAR.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS BSO GIVING US TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT?
>> MADAM VICE MAYOR. I THINK EVERY POLICE AGENCY HAS IT.
>> IT DOESN'T MATTER THOUGH WE'RE IMPORTANT.
>> EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ACTUALLY.
BUT I THINK WHAT WAS ABOUT TO SAY IS THAT ANY POLICE AGENCY COULD HAVE AN EVENT LIKE THIS HAPPEN WHERE THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF OFFICERS.
>> BUT I THINK THIS IS TRIPLE EVENT.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HIRE NINE. I GET IT.
RECRUITMENT SLOW, SO WE ONLY HIRED FOUR.
BUT THEN WE'RE SHORT NINE BECAUSE YOU SUSPENDED THEM.
>> THEN WE HAD A TRIPLE HOMICIDE.
SO I THINK WE'RE NOT GETTING THE WHAT'S THE WORD? WE'RE NOT GETTING THE, SOMEBODY HELPING WITH THE WORD.
THE VALUE FOR THE MONEY, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE SERVICE THAT WE DESERVE.
TO ME, NOW WE SHOULD BE ONE OF YOUR FRAGILE CHILD.
THAT CHILD THAT YOU'RE TAKING AN EXTRA LOOK AT, BECAUSE THESE SITUATIONS ARE OCCURRING.
IF YOU HAD TOLD ME, OH, EVERY OFFICER GET TO DO 2 HOURS WORTH OF OVERTIME, THAT WILL HELP TO COMPENSATE.
OR OFFICERS ARE COMING FROM DIFFERENT CITIES WITH BSO.
BUT NOW WE'RE JUST WORSE OFF THAN WE WERE A YEAR AGO AND THAT'S NOT GOOD.
>> WELL, AGAIN, I DISPUTE THE WORSE OFF BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT.
HUMAN RESOURCE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I CAN SPEAK THERE, PLEASE. YES.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, MADAM VICE MAYOR.
BUT AGAIN, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED BY THE TAMARAC DISTRICT HAS NOT DROPPED OFF.
I THINK THAT SHOW THAT CRIME IS IN A NEGATIVE A NEGATIVE TREND IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
>> BUT WE DON'T CONTROL CRIME.
LIKE, I CAN'T TELL WHO GONNA LOSE THEIR MIND TODAY.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA LOSE THEIR MIND.
WE'RE TAKING A BIGGER RISK BY NOT HAVING ENOUGH POLICE FORCE OUT THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE CRIMINALS ARE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA COMMIT A CRIME.
>> WELL, AGAIN, WE ARE MEETING OUR REQUIREMENTS ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT, AND WE ARE PROVIDING FULL SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
I ASSURE THE CITIZENS THAT THEY ARE SAFE AND THEY ARE GETTING EXCELLENT POLICE SERVICE.
>> WE JUST PRAY AND HOPE NOTHING HAPPENS BECAUSE NOW WE REALLY JUST GOT TO LIVE ON PRAYER BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE ARE SHORT STAFFED.
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WE, AS A COMMISSION, WAS PROACTIVE AND AS A CITY TO SAY WE NEED MORE PEOPLE AND BUDGETED FOR MORE PEOPLE.BUT NOW WE'RE EVEN SHORTER THAN THAT. THAT'S A PROBLEM.
WELL, AGAIN, MY COMMANDER IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OF FILLING THOSE SPOTS, AND I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN RESTRICTED DUTY HOPEFULLY WILL BE GETTING EITHER RETURN BODIES BACK OR NEW PEOPLE REPLACING THEM IN THE SHORT TERM FUTURE, SO THIS IS A TEMPORARY ISSUE.
JUST CAMPING ON A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
IF I HAVE A 66 TOUR, AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 18 PEOPLE ON THE 66 TOUR.
>> THAT'S A LOT. FOR THE 13 OR FOUR.
MY TARGET WITH THE NEW BODIES YOU GAVE IS 13 OR 14.
>> WHAT DO WE HAVE NOW? YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE ARE MEETING OUR CONTRACT, SO EVERY SLOT THAT THAT WE ARE CONTRACTED FOR HAS PEOPLE FILLING THOSE SLOTS TO DO THEIR JOBS.
WE'RE DOING OVERTIME, BRINGING ANOTHER PEOPLE FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
>> THE CONTRACT REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 20 PERSONNEL TO WORK ON A DAILY BASIS.
I CAN ASSURE YOU WE'RE FILLING ALL 20 OF THOSE SPOTS ON A DAILY BASIS, AND THEN SOME ON MOST DAYS.
THERE IS NO LAPSE IN SERVICES ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT.
THE EXTRA STAFFING IS WHAT HELPS FACILITATE ENHANCED SERVICES, GREATER ENFORCEMENT OF TRAFFIC, GREATER INVESTIGATIONS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
ANY STAFFING HAS TO ACCOUNT FOR SICK TIME, EXTENDED SICK TIME WITH FMLA, SUSPENSIONS, VACATIONS, ALL THOSE THINGS.
EVEN IF WE HAVE 13 OR 14 PEOPLE STAFFED ON A SHIFT, WE COULD HAVE THREE OR FOUR OF THEM THAT ARE OFF ON ANY GIVEN DAY FOR ANY ONE OF THOSE VALID REASONS.
THE EXTRA STAFFING PROVIDES US GREATER CHANCE TO PROVIDE ENHANCED SERVICES FROM WHAT WE WERE PREVIOUSLY ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU PRIOR TO THE NINE EXTRA BODIES.
>> IT'S THE EXTRA STAFFING WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE OTHER THAN THE NINE EXTRA BODIES IN FULL THAT WE CONTRACTED FOR IN OCTOBER.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON FILLING THOSE IN.
>> CORRECT. AGAIN, I THINK THAT BY THE END OF MAY, THAT VACANCY WOULD BE DOWN TO TWO OR LESS.
>> THANK YOU. I'VE GOT GOING BACKWARDS, I SPOKE WITH THIS MORE WITH THE PRIOR ACTING CAPTAIN.
I SHARED WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU AND I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS SOON AS WE WERE FINISHED EXPRESSING IT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THE REST OF THE COMMISSION IN.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BSO WORKING WITH THE CITY TO DO A COURSE THROUGH DR. SARAH BOSTICK OF BSO, WHO'S ALSO PART OF OUR CITY TO DO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS PROGRAM, ONE THAT ALSO SHOWS WOMEN AND MEN THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS NOT ONLY ABOUT PHYSICAL, IT'S ALSO ABOUT MENTAL ABUSE, ALL ABUSE AND HOW IT HAPPENS, AND THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOMETHING TO TRY TO GET THE COUNTY TO ALLOW FOR RESTRAINING ORDERS AND OTHER TYPE OF YOU HAD ONE OF THE WORDS EARLIER.
I APOLOGIZE, TO BE ABLE TO BE DONE FROM THE SATELLITE OFFICES, NOT JUST DOWNTOWN.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HEAR FROM VICTIMS WHO WANT TO HAVE A RESTRAINING ORDER.
THEY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN.
SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T DO IT BETWEEN JOBS AND HOURS THAT THE COURTHOUSE IS OPEN.
WE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, THE COURT SYSTEM TO SEE IF THEY CAN DO SOMETHING IN THE SATELLITE OFFICES.
THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BIGGER PUSH, WORKING WITH SOME PEOPLE ON THE BAR BAR FOR THAT, AS WELL.
THEN THAT OTHER PROGRAM THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WOULD BE ENDING WITH A VERSION OF A SELF DEFENSE PROGRAM IN ORDER TO TRAIN PEOPLE HOW TO ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP YOURSELF WHEN YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF SOMETHING VERBALLY AND DE ESCALATE A SITUATION AND GET AWAY, THEN THE NEXT STEP IS HIT AND RUN, IF YOU NEED TO IN THE RESPECTS OF YOU HIT THEM AND YOU RUN.
SOME OF US HAVE HAD TO LEARN ROD MAGA AND GO THROUGH THAT TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO THAT.
THIS WAS A PROGRAM THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN GOING TO BRING OUT TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE, TO DO AS A CITY OF TAMARAC BSO JOINT EFFORT.
IT IS STILL IN THE WORKS, AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE THINGS FINALIZED SOONER THAN LATER.
I KNOW THAT DR. BOSTICK IS GOING TO BE FOLLOWING UP WITH HER COMMUNITY AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT IN THE MORNING.
AS SOON AS MORE OF THAT COMES OUT, HOPEFULLY BY THE NEXT REPORT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSION AND THE CITY TO KNOW MORE.
ON THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> QUESTION. DID WE EVER REPLACE THE OFFICERS THAT WAS FIRED PART OF THE 75 THAT WAS FROM THE CITY OF TAMARAC?
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THE PPO FRAUD, DIDN'T WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS OR MORE THAT WAS FIRED?>> YES, MA'AM. THEY WERE REPLACED.
>> THEY WERE REPLACED. I WANT TO DO A CORRECTION.
WE HAVE NINE NOT A CORRECTION ON ME, BUT THE MAYOR SAID SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD CORRECT.
WE HAVE NINE OFFICERS THAT'S CURRENTLY SUSPENDED.
>> NO, SAY IF THEY COME BACK BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATION.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THOSE NINE ARE COMING BACK.
IF THEY DO COME BACK, IT WOULD BE JUNE, JULY.
>> NO, WE'RE NOT JUST OUT OF THE NEW HIRE.
THAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL PIECE.
I SEE THAT WE'RE OUT OF THE NINE PLUS THE NEW HIRES THAT WE NEEDED.
IT'S THE NINE THAT'S SUSPENDED.
WE'RE CURRENTLY OUT OF FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
PLUS WE ASK TO HIRE NINE MORE, WHICH CURRENTLY WE HAVE HIRED THREE.
>> NO. I JUST WANTED TO RE EMPHASIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT TO PROLONG THE CONVERSATION THAT OUR CONTRACT CALLS FOR MINIMUM STAFFING NUMBERS FROM FROM BSO AND SO CAPTAIN PEP.
>> YOU DON'T ACCEPT MINIMUM FROM YOUR EMPLOYEE, SO MINIMUM IS NOT GOOD.
>> HE'S JUST SIGNIFYING THAT THAT THOSE MINIMUM NUMBERS ARE MET, EVEN WITH OVERTIME AND STUFF.
WE'RE EXPECTING MORE THAN THAT WITH THE ADDITIONAL NINE BODIES FOR SURE.
THAT SHOULD BE AROUND THE CORNER, HOPEFULLY.
>> THANK YOU, CAPTAIN PALMER. WE'RE NOW MOVING FORWARD TO OUR CITY MANAGER REPORT.
BEFORE I TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN TAMARAC, I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE THING THAT CAPTAIN PALMER WAS REFERRING TO LPR.
THOSE ARE THE LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT, HE WAS, IN FACT, INSTRUMENTAL IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE, ALONG WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT.
THOSE ARE THE LICENSE PLATE READERS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WAS PAID FROM OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND.
IT'S CLEAR THAT TECHNOLOGY IS PAYING BACK IN CATCHING CRIMINALS AND PREVENTING CRIME, FOR SURE.
SIMILARLY ON MORE TECHNOLOGY NEWS, TAMARAC IS LAUNCHING A CITYWIDE WATER METER UPGRADE, STARTING APRIL 28TH, 2025.
THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, AND THESE NEW SMART METERS WILL PROVIDE MORE ACCURATE READINGS, LEAK DETECTION, AND ACCESS TO REAL TIME USAGE DATA.
INSTALLATIONS WILL BE COMPLETED BY HSD UTILITY, THAT'S A CONTRACTING COMPANY AT NO COST TO RESIDENTS, AND TYPICALLY SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 20-30 MINUTES.
WHEN YOU SEE THOSE, WORKING ON YOUR WATER METER ON THE OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOMES, THEY SHOULD BE WEARING HSD UNIFORMS OR SHIRTS AND THEN THEY SHOULD ONLY BE TAKEN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR.
THIS UPGRADE IS A KEY STEP IN MODERNIZING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENHANCING SERVICE FOR ALL TAMARAC WATER CUSTOMERS.
FORTUNATELY, HURRICANE SEASON IS NOW LESS THAN 60 DAYS AWAY.
WE NEED YOU TO STAY INFORMED AND PREPARE FOR LOCAL EMERGENCIES BY SIGNING UP FOR CODE RED NOTIFICATIONS.
WE SAVE CODE RED FOR EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS, IT'S CRITICAL FOR US TO HAVE YOU SIGN UP FOR THIS CRITICAL SERVICE SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO YOU EITHER BY VOICEMAIL OR TEXT MESSAGES AND AND YOU CAN REGISTER BY TEXT, PHONE CALL, OR BY VISITING OUR WEBSITE TODAY.
CODE RED PROVIDES MORE THAN JUST STORM ALERTS.
YOU'LL ALSO RECEIVE UPDATES ON BOIL WATER ADVISORIES, WATER MAIN BREAKS, AND OTHER LOCAL EMERGENCIES.
AS USUAL, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF UPCOMING EVENTS.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A BUSY MONTH.
PLEASE CHECK US OUT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE EVENTS TAKING PLACE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MADAM MAYOR.
OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING IS GOING TO BE IS SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY,
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APRIL 23RD, AT 9:30 AM. THANK YOU.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CITY MANAGER, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA?
[3. CONSENT AGENDA ]
>> SEE NO REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION TO PULL AND THE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.
I'LL TAKE A SECOND TO MY MOTION, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT TO MY MOTION.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLE.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> THANK YOU. WELL, LAST MEETING, AND I REALIZE AND I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T DO THIS TO MOVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BACK TO WHERE IT WAS, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO MOVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION TO WHERE WE ARE GOING
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TO BE PUTTING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA NOW.IF THERE'S AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO, SOME PEOPLE HAVE PUT THE ITEMS THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK TO ON THIS LIST, THE SIGN UP SHEET ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME.
STATE ALSO THE LOCATION YOU LIVE, IF YOU DON'T WISH TO GIVE YOUR ADDRESS, OR HOME ADDRESS, AT LEAST, PLEASE TELL US WHAT CITY YOU LIVE IN.
IF WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT WHAT SOMEBODY SAYS, WE DO THIS.
IF WE'RE NOT, WE DO THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE RUDE TO ANYBODY WHO'S WISHING TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES, AND EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION THAT WE NEED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER'S OPINIONS.
>> ARE YOU WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, OR DO YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
>> YOUR NAME, PLEASE. EVEN THOUGH I SAID, I NEED YOU TO SAY IT AND WHERE YOU LIVE, PLEASE.
>> ELMA BROWN, ISLES OF TAMARAC.
>> I THOUGHT OF COMING HERE TO REALLY EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR MY COMMISSIONER, MS. PATTERSON, KRYSTAL.
WHEN WE GO TO VOTE FOR A REPRESENTATIVE, SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL.
I MYSELF, I NEVER MET MS. PATTERSON UNTIL THE DAY I WENT TO CAST MY VOTE.
IN ELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE, WE ARE HOPING THAT WE'RE MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL.
I WENT AHEAD AND I CASTED MY VOTE FOR MS. PATTERSON, AND I MUST SAY THAT I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE JOB THAT SHE IS DOING AS MY COMMISSIONER.
I'VE HAD A NUMEROUS OCCASIONS WHERE I'VE HAD THE NEED TO REACH OUT FOR ASSISTANCE THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF HOW TO GO ABOUT IT, AND I WAS REFERRED TO HER.
WITHOUT HESITATION, SHE'S ALWAYS RESPONDED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE SUCH EASY ACCESS TO OUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE.
I HAVE HAD ON OCCASION A RESIDENT, ALSO IN MY AREA, WHO'VE HAD SOME ISSUES, AND SHE HAD NO IDEA WHERE TO TURN.
WHEN I INQUIRED IF SHE HAD CONTACTED HER REPRESENTATIVE, HER COMMISSIONER, SHE HAD NO IDEA WHO IT WAS, AND I REFERRED HER TO MS. KRYSTAL.
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SHE RELUCTANTLY TOOK THE NUMBER, AND SHE CALLED.SHE ADMITTED WHEN SHE CALLED, SHE DID NOT EXPECT ANYONE TO ANSWER, BUT SHE RESPONDED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU, MS. KRYSTAL, FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US [OVERLAPPING] AND OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NOW HAVE MARA ENGLISH.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY STAFF, AND RESIDENTS.
MY NAME IS MARA ENGLISH. I'M SHORT.
[LAUGHTER] I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMARAC FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.
TONIGHT, I RISE IN FULL SUPPORT OF AN ANTI-BULLYING.
>> MS. ENGLISH, I HATE TO DO THIS TO YOU.
THAT'S AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, SO YOU CAN COME BACK AND SPEAK ON 4A, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. JEFFREY SHAPIRO?
>> JEFFREY SHAPIRO, THE WOODLANDS.
WELL, FIRST I WANT TO START UP WITH SOME OBSERVATIONS.
THE FIRST OBSERVATION IS FOR A NUMBER OF THESE CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS, THE CITY ATTORNEY NEVER HAS A REPORT.
I BELIEVE ALL THE RESIDENTS DESERVE TO HEAR AT LEAST 2-3 MINUTES OF WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS OR ANY LEGALITIES WITH THE CITY.
ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE IN THE BLIND, AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY PAY A LOT OF MONEY IN TAXES, AND WE DESERVE TO HEAR CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT.
SECOND OBSERVATION, I'M PULLING INTO THE WOODLANDS LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND JUST ON THE CITY PROPERTY OF THE CIRCLE, AS YOU'RE GOING IN AND OPPOSITE IT, THERE'S TWO CONSTRUCTION COMPANY SIGNS.
NONE OF WHICH IS SAYING 13TH FLOOR, DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT SOMEONE'S TRYING TO PROMOTE THERE.
IF IT'S JUST ADVERTISING FOR A BUSINESS, I BELIEVE THAT'S ILLEGAL.
THAT'S ANOTHER OBSERVATION AND SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO.
NEXT THING IN THE WOODLANDS, IT SEEMS THAT SOME OF THE NEWER RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON WOODLANDS BOULEVARD AND HAVE HOMES VALUED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ARE TRYING TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT 700 OTHER HOME DWELLINGS, AND NOW EVERYBODY'S GOT TO DRIVE DOWN THAT MAIN DRAG IN AND OUT TO COME AND GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY THINK THEY'RE LIVING ON FARMLAND OR SOMETHING.
SEMIS BEING PARKED RIGHT IN FRONT ON THEIR CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS WITH SHIPPING CONTAINERS, AND IT BEING SET THERE FOR FIVE DAYS.
OTHER NEW HOMEOWNERS, THEY HAVE BIG PICKUP TRUCKS, THEY HAVE A NICE SIZED DRIVEWAY, BUT THEY ONLY WANT TO USE THEIR LAWN.
ANOTHER HOME, POP-UP TRAILER WITH A LARGE PICKUP TRUCK PARKED NEXT TO IT.
IT'S STARTING TO LOOK LIKE A TRAILER PARK, THE COMMUNITY, AND THESE ARE THINGS EASILY SEEN DURING THE DAY.
WHERE'S CODE ENFORCEMENT? TO ME, THESE ARE ALL SOME VIOLATION AND THEY'RE NOT BEING HANDLED.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL MY TIME, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL LISTENING.
>> JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMISSIONER HAS REPORTED WHAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, AND THROUGH DUE PROCESS, THEY HAVE ANOTHER FEW HOURS LEFT ON THEIR ABILITY TO HAVE IT MOVED.
I BELIEVE THAT THE SECTION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT AT TOMORROW NIGHT'S MEETING.
SECTION 4, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT LATER.
>> THANK YOU. REVEREND HANSON.
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>> YOUR HONOR, GOOD EVENING. I RISE TO SPEAK TO RESOLUTION 4A. IS THIS THE TIME?
>> NO, IT IS NOT, BUT I WILL WRITE IT DOWN FOR YOU, AND I'LL CALL YOU UP IN A MOMENT.
THANK YOU. KEESHA LEWIS BOLDEN.
>> 4A. HANNAH BOLDEN, 4A AS WELL?
>> THAT'S OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER, CITY CLERK, AUDIENCE.
MY NAME IS INGRID ROBERTS, AND I LIVE IN KINGS POINT.
I'M JUST GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK UP TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
THIS IS MY SECOND TIME IN ATTENDANCE AT YOUR COMMISSION MEETING BECAUSE I'M A NEW RESIDENCE.
IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
I WANT TO SAY THAT I APPLAUD THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO SO FAR.
I'M ABOUT HELPING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, NOT TO CREATE PROBLEMS. I WANT TO SUPPORT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE WORK THAT YOU DO, IT'S NOT EASY, YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE.
THIS IS TAMARAC, I KNOW IT'S A THRIVING CITY, THAT'S WHY I MOVE INTO TAMARAC.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME. I APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU. THAT IS 4A AND 4A AND 4A.
THEN THE NEXT ONE IS FAITH RICHARD SAMUELS, OUR WINNER.
>> ACTUALLY, OUR [INAUDIBLE] GOING THERE ALREADY.
>> BUT IN CASE YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT NO WORRIES.
>> IS THERE ANYONE WHO DID NOT SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THAT WISHED TO SPEAK? SORRY, DID I MISS YOU? IT DOES SAY PP.
SORRY. MY APOLOGIES. KATE JOHNSON? IS THERE ANYONE AFTER KATE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC PARTICIPATION? IS THAT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION?
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS UNDER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, ONE IS 9D, SINCE WE CAN'T SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S ON THERE.
I KNOW YOU'RE CONSIDERING CHANGING THE, WHATEVER YOU CALL THAT THING, TO MAKE IT THAT THE RESIDENTS AROUND THE GOLF COURSE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON CHANGES TO THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH I ABSOLUTELY THINK, BUT IT'S A CITY GOLF COURSE.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE RESTRICTED TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THE GOLF COURSE, BUT TO THE ENTIRE CITY.
THE CITY OWNS THAT GOLF COURSE, NOT JUST THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE AROUND IT.
WHEN IF IT EVER, WHICH WE HOPE IT NEVER HAPPENS, THAT IT'S DEVELOPED, BUT IF THAT EVER BECOMES A CONSIDERATION, IT SHOULD BE A CITY-WIDE REFERENDUM VOTE, NOT JUST A VOTE BY THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE AROUND THE GOLF COURSE.
WE ALL OWN IT, WE ALL PAY TAXES FOR IT, AND OUR MONEY WAS USED TO PURCHASE IT, SO WE ALL HAVE A STAKE IN THAT.
NOT TO MENTION, PEOPLE PLAY GOLF ON THAT WHO DON'T LIVE RIGHT THERE.
SECOND ISSUE, SHAKER VILLAGE EYESORE.
WE NOW OWN A DILAPIDATED BUILDING, AND WE'VE OWNED IT FOR AT LEAST TWO MONTHS, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
YOU SAID YOU WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE EYESORE.
THAT WAS SAID BY A COUPLE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS WHY YOU WANTED TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS EYESORE.
YES, THE GRAFFITI GOT PAINTED OVER THAT NOW WE START TO SEE HAPPENING ALL OVER THERE, BUT PLEASE SPEND THE $100,000 THAT WAS ESTIMATED TO CLEAR THE LAND, AND CLEAR THE LAND.
IF WE'RE GOING TO OWN IT, WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE PRIDE IN WHAT WE OWN.
THE THIRD THING IS THE FOOD AND GAS GIVEAWAY IN MAINLANDS PARK.
I HAVE HAD MANY RESIDENTS COMPLAIN TO ME AND ASK ME TO BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY KNOW I COME HERE,
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COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.THE DAY OF THE FOOD SHARE OR FOOD GIVEAWAY, WHICH IS A GREAT THING, TRAFFIC STARTED LINING UP AT 6:00 AM.
THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL STREET, MANY DRIVEWAYS WERE BLOCKED.
RESIDENTS WERE HAVING A HARD TIME.
HORNS WERE HONKED, THERE WERE SO MUCH GOING ON.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER PLACE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT THAN IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
THAT PARK WAS BUILT AS A PASSIVE PARK, NOT TO BE PROGRAMMED, NOT TO BE USED FOR EVENTS.
PLEASE CONSIDER THAT THE NEXT TIME THAT YOU ORGANIZE ONE OF THESE EVENTS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE CLEARING OF THE PROPERTY?
>> YES, MAYOR. IN THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, YOU APPROVED THE DEMOLITION OF THE FORMER SHAKER VILLAGE CLUB BUILDING IN THE PROPERTY THAT'S ON 441 AND ONE ADDITIONAL PLACE.
NOW THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS PERMITTING.
MUSTAFA, IS THERE A TIME, DATE YOU CAN PROVIDE US? IT SHOULD BE IMMINENT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MUSTAFA ALBASSAM, PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR.
THEY ARE IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
WE HAD MET WITH THE CONTRACTOR LAST WEEK, HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, SO THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING.
BECAUSE OF THE ASBESTOS THAT'S AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CONCRETE, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH BROWARD COUNTY IN GETTING THE PERMITS, SO THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THEY HAD ASSURED US THAT WE'LL JUMP ON THE 441 PROPERTIES AND THE FORMER SHAKER VILLAGE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS THEY HAVE OBTAINED THE DEMO PERMITS.
>> CAN YOU PROVIDE US ESTIMATED TIMELINE?
>> FROM THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEY SAID IT CAN TAKE UP TO EIGHT WEEKS TO GET THE PERMITS FROM BROWARD COUNTY.
WE HAD ASKED HIM TO KEEP US IN THE LOOP, AND HOPEFULLY WE COULD REACH OUT TO BROWARD COUNTY AS WELL TO EXPEDITE IT, BUT IT'S A PROCESS, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT CONTRACTOR HAS TO GO THROUGH THE LIST OR THROUGH THE LINE.
WE'RE HOPING THAT SHAKER VILLAGE WILL BE EXEMPTED BECAUSE IT'S AN OPEN ROOF PROPERTY.
THE 441 PROPERTIES DEFINITELY HAS TO GO THROUGH BROWARD COUNTY, BUT THE SHAKER VILLAGE PROPERTY HOPEFULLY WILL BE EXEMPTED.
BUT THEY HAVE TO GET THE APPROVAL FROM BROWARD COUNTY BECAUSE IF THE CONTRACTOR IS CAUGHT NOT OBTAINING A PERMIT, HE CAN JEOPARDIZE HIS LICENSE.
>> THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF EVERYBODY WITH ASBESTOS AND STUFF. CITY MANAGER?
>> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
>> MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, ANY INFLUENCE WE CAN PUT ON COUNTY COMMISSIONER REQUEST SOME EXPEDITION, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
>> IF YOU GIVE US THE PERMIT NUMBERS, I'M SURE WE CAN ALL BOMBARD THEM WITH SOME EMAILS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MUSTAFA, YOU SAID ASBESTOS?
>> WHERE, AT THE CHACE VILLAGE SITE OR AT THE 441 SITE?
>> WELL, THEY HAVE TO SAMPLE IT.
ASBESTOS USUALLY IS WITHIN THE CONCRETE, THE OLD CONCRETE FOR PROPERTIES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE 70S AND 60S.
THEY FIRST HAVE TO SAMPLE THEM AND SEND IT TO A LAB TO FIND OUT WHAT LEVEL IS AVAILABLE ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
>> HAVE THEY ALREADY CHECKED THESE SITES TO FIND THAT THERE IS?
>> I BELIEVE THEY HAVE SAMPLED IT ALREADY OR THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS.
I HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE PROJECT MANAGER WHO I'VE ASSIGNED TO THAT PROJECT.
I'M ALMOST POSITIVE THEY HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS.
FOR THE 441 PROPERTIES, WE'RE ALMOST CERTAIN IT'S THERE BECAUSE THERE'S VINYL FLOORINGS.
ASBESTOS IS NOT JUST HOLDING CONCRETE, BUT IN THE VINYL FLOORINGS AND THE INSULATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE'RE ALMOST POSITIVE IT'S THERE.
THE CHACE VILLAGE, THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S IFFY, SO THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO VERIFY, AND THEY WILL MOBILIZE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AS SOON AS THEY GET THE CLEARANCE.
I'M HOPING THAT ONE CAN BE EXPEDITED MUCH QUICKER THAN THE EIGHT WEEKS TIME FRAME THAT I SPOKE ABOUT.
>> THE EIGHT WEEKS IS ONLY IF YOU FIND ASBESTOS?
>> WHEN WILL YOU KNOW IF YOU FOUND?
>> I BELIEVE THEY SAID IT WILL TAKE ABOUT ANOTHER WEEK OR SO TO GET THE RESULTS FROM THE LAB, SO I SHOULD KNOW BY MID NEXT WEEK TO HAVE MORE DEFINITE ANSWER OF THE CHACE VILLAGE.
BUT THEY DID PROMISE THEY WILL MOBILIZE IMMEDIATELY.
WE ASKED FOR AN ACTUAL SCHEDULE FROM THEM AS WELL.
MIND YOU, WE EXCEED THE CONTRACT WITH THEM EARLY LAST WEEK.
THEY ARE STILL DEVELOPING AND MAKING SURE ALL EQUIPMENT ARE NOT TIED UP WITH ALL THE PROJECTS.
>> IF THE ASBESTOS IS NOT FOUND AT THE CHACE VILLAGE SITE,
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THEN DO YOU STILL REQUIRE A PERMIT FROM BROWARD COUNTY OR NO?>> NO. THEY JUST NEED TO GET EXEMPTION FROM BROWARD COUNTY.
THE CONTRACT IS STILL NEED TO OBTAIN A CITY OF TAMARAC BUILDING DEPARTMENT DEMO PERMIT.
FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH TONY, WE WILL DEFINITELY EXPEDITE THAT AS WELL.
>> KNOWING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, YOU MOVE VERY SLOW?
>> NO. WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE IT EXPEDITED, AND WE ALREADY SPOKE WITH DECO AND TONY ON ON THAT ASPECT.
MIND YOU, TO DEMOLISH A BUILDING, IT'S JUST NOT JUST DEMOLISH THE BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO GET FPL APPROVAL.
ALL ELECTRICITY HAS BEEN TURNED OFF FULLY, WHICH HAS BEEN, BUT THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO GO THROUGH A CHECKLIST.
THERE'S A PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
>> THAT SLOW COMMENT IS JUST SIGNALING TO ANY RESIDENT LISTENING THAT AS MUCH AS WE'D WANT TO WAVE A MAGIC WAND TO HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN TOMORROW, DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT CAN HAPPEN TOMORROW.
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW ALL THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS.
>> I WANT TO PUT OUT THERE THAT STAFF IS LITERALLY TALKING TO A CONTRACTOR, IF NOT EVERY DAY, EVERY OTHER DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON TOP OF THIS ON THOSE PROPERTIES AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE DEMOLISHED.
IN FACT, THE 441 PROPERTIES, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A CONTRACTOR TO PUT A CONSTRUCTION FENCE AND SECURE THAT SITE BECAUSE TALKING WITH BSO, THERE'S SOME ISSUES OUT THERE.
IT'S BEEN A LITTLE CHALLENGING IN GETTING THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET CLEARANCE FROM 811 UNDERGROUND LOCATES, AND 811 IS NOT BEING RESPONSIVE QUICKLY ENOUGH, SO IT'S A PROCESS, BUT STAFF IS STAYING ON TOP OF IT, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT HAPPENS QUICKLY.
> ONE SECOND, I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
SORRY. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY ABOUT THE ASBESTOS.
MY FATHER WOUND UP HAVING TO SHAVE HIS BEARD AND MUSTACHE FROM WORKING IN NEW YORK CITY BECAUSE OF ALL THE ASBESTOS, AND HE WAS AN ELECTRICIAN, SO I GET THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF IT BECAUSE HE HAD TO WEAR THAT MASK.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO CHACE VILLAGE, THE WALLS THAT ARE BEING HELD UP BY FOUR BY FOURS OR POLES.
IS THERE A REASON WHY THEY JUST CAN'T BE LAID DOWN? THEY'RE NOT STRUCTURAL WALLS BEING HELD UP, LIKE THE STRUCTURE THAT'S HOLDING THEM UP IS JUST LIKE THIS BAR RIGHT HERE.
THEN WHY CAN'T THE BAR BE REMOVED AND IT LAID DOWN SO NOBODY SEES THE WALLS. IS THAT POSSIBLE?
>> I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, MAYOR. IT'S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE.
BUT FROM CONTRACTUAL PERSPECTIVE AND FROM CONSTRUCTION PERSPECTIVE, CONTRACTORS LIKE TO MOBILIZE AND GET THEIR EQUIPMENT OUT THERE TO DEMOLISH AND PICK UP AND DISPOSE ALL AT ONCE.
GETTING MOBILIZED IN THERE, KNOCKING THE WALLS DOWN, DEMOBILIZING AND REMOBILIZING, IT'S ALL ADDITIONAL COSTS.
WE COULD DEFINITELY TALK TO TO THE CONTRACTOR AND SEE IF THAT'S AN OPTION, WE COULD DO THAT, BUT TRULY, THIS WAS NOT IN THE PLAN TO PUT THE WALLS DOWN IMMEDIATELY AND THEN COME BACK AFTER EIGHT WEEKS TO PICK UP THE WALLS.
>> WELL, IF MY RECOLLECTION OF WHAT I WAS TOLD, AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A WHILE NOW THAT THINGS MAY BE CHANGED, THE COMMUNITY WAS PAYING FOR THOSE WALLS TO STAY UP BY THOSE WALLS.
IF IT'S MY COMPANY, THAT I'M HOLDING THEM UP, CAN'T MY COMPANY COME TAKE MY POLES AND HAVE THEM HELP LAY THEM DOWN SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHATEVER MOBILIZING THE NEW ENTITY?
>> THE BRACES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE WALLS, WE TOOK OVER, SO WE ARE PAYING THE MONTHLY INVOICES ON THOSE BECAUSE THAT'S A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE, AND WE'RE TALKING WITH BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
WE DID HAVE A BREAK IN INTO THE PROPERTY SOMETIME LAST WEEK, SOMEONE KNOCKED DOWN THE FENCE AND WENT INSIDE THE PROPERTY.
FROM LIFE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE TO KEEP THOSE BRACES ON.
>> BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE BRACES ON, AND WE LET THE WALLS EASILY COME DOWN AND BE LAID FLAT, THEN THERE'S NOBODY LIVING IN THE LITTLE CREVICES OF THE UNIT CAN WE JUST LOOK INTO IT?
>> WE CAN'T. WE OWN THE PROPERTY AND WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ITS SAFETY, AND SO THOSE WALLS WILL NOT COME DOWN QUIETLY.
IF THEY COME DOWN, THEY WILL COME DOWN CREATING DUST.
>> SPRAY IT DOWN. HAVE SOME RAIN, BRING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OUT. SOCKETS.
>> LIKE I SAID, I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TOP OF IT, I'LL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE'LL EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS.
>> BECAUSE THE COMMUNITIES, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
WE GET ALL EXCITED, WE GO THROUGH WHATEVER, WE VOTE, WE VOTE, WE GET IT DONE, AND WHEN WE'RE READY FOR IT, WE WANT IT TO HAPPEN.
I UNDERSTAND TIMELINE AND PROCESSES, BUT I THINK NONE OF US HAD AN EXPECTATION THAT IT WAS
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GOING TO BE ANOTHER POTENTIAL EIGHT WEEKS ON HOW THIS PROCESS GOES.IT'S LIKE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT ANXIOUS.
IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY, STILL COST EFFECTIVE, BUT SMART, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BEING USED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CLIMBING IN THERE AND DOING GRAFFITI AND THEN WE HAVE TO PAINT OVER SOMETHING WE'RE KNOCKING DOWN AND ALL THE SERVICES FOR BSO AND THINGS.
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN TRY TO DO.
I THINK WE'RE NOW UP TO HERBERT STEIN. COME ON UP.
YOU ARE OUR LAST PERSON ON THE PRICES RIGHT FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
YEAH, THREE MINUTES. YES, YOU. COME ON, MR. STEIN.
>> HERBERT STEIN, FAIRFAX COMMUNITY KINGS POINT.
I WANT TO MAKE SOME OBSERVATIONS.
I WANT TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW CITIZENS OF TAMARAC.
I WANT TO REMIND YOU, FOLKS THAT WE ELECT YOU AND YOUR DECISIONS SHOULD BE BASED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMARAC AND NOT FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE.
YOU HAVE MADE A DECISION IN THE PAST, WHICH APPARENTLY IS COMING UP AS A SECOND READING.
I THINK IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE THAT WE EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND READING.
THE CITIZENS HAVE A VOICE, AND THEIR VOICE SHOULD BE HEARD, NOT AT YOUR CONVENIENCE, BUT AT THE CONVENIENCE OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
I KNOW THE SUBJECT WILL COME UP LATER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY OPINION.
I HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN ONCE TO MY COMMISSIONER.
HOPEFULLY, THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL UNDERSTAND THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY COME FIRST BEFORE YOUR CONVENIENCE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NO ONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS NOW DONE.
AS SUCH, WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO 24A.
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.
>> ITEM 4A, A RESOLUTION OF CITY COMMISSION OF CITY OF TAMARAC ESTABLISHING THE CITY AS AN ANTI-BULLYING, ANTI-HATE COMMUNITY AND DIRECTING STAFF TO ESTABLISH INITIATIVES AND POLICY CONSISTENT WITH THIS RESOLUTION, PROVIDING CONFIDENCE, PROVIDING FOR STABILITY, PROVIDING FOR [INAUDIBLE].
>> I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A HOLD. MY APOLOGIES.
IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO SIGNED UP FOR 9C? AS 9C IS AN ITEM THAT WE DON'T SPEAK ON, PROBABLY DID NOT REALIZE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE ASKED AND I SHOULD HAVE NOTICED IT, AND I APOLOGIZE.
RICHARD RAND, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON 9C.
NINE C IS WHAT WE CALL OTHER, AND WE DON'T SPEAK AT THAT TIME.
I'M REOPENING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES ON THAT.
I APOLOGIZE. THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO 4A.
>> MR. RAND, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, SAME RULES APPLY AS A MOMENT AGO.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CLERK, AND RESIDENTS.
I LIVE IN HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA, BORN AND RAISED IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
I AM THE RETIRED CHIEF OF POLICE FROM A AGENCY IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.
A LOT OF MY CAREER WAS SPENT IN CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, SO I HAVE A DEEP BACKGROUND IN CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC.
I RETIRED THREE YEARS AGO, AND I WORK FOR A COMPANY NOW BY THE NAME OF BLUE LINE SOLUTIONS.
WE ARE A COMPANY FOUNDED BY FIRST RESPONDERS IN MILITARY.
WE DO THE AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT IN SCHOOL ZONES, WHICH YOU ARE GOING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, WHICH I KNOW IS A HOT TOPIC WITH A LOT OF YOUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE IN SPEEDING CAMERAS.
I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR UP A COUPLE OF MYTHS AND LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY.
THE GENTLEMAN WHO STARTED OUR COMPANY STARTED CLICK IT OR TICKET 23 YEARS AGO.
MARK HUTCHINSON, HE STARTED IT IN GEORGIA, AND AS YOU KNOW, EVEN TODAY, CLICK IT OR TICKET IS A BIG PROGRAM.
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MORE PEOPLE HAVE BUCKLED UP TODAY THAN THEY DID MANY YEARS AGO.WE ARE NOT A RED LIGHT CAMERA.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN RED LIGHTS.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S VERY TUMULTUOUS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
A $185 CITATION COULD REALLY PUT SOMEBODY IN THE HOLE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
BLUE LINE SOLUTIONS, WE JUST OPENED UP A HUGE OFFICE IN BROWARD COUNTY WHERE WE SERVICE THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD.
WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD.
WE'RE CURRENTLY IN SIX RFPS RIGHT NOW IN DADE, BROWARD AND PALM BEACH COUNTY.
WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH FORT LAUDERDALE AND ANOTHER COMPANY TO WIN THE RFP.
THE OFFICE THAT WE OPENED IN BROWARD, AND I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS INTERESTING, IT WAS OPEN AND WE HIRED PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE THAT SPEAK MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.
I WORKED IN AN AGENCY IN MIAMI-DADE FOR 26 YEARS, WHERE IT'S A VAST COMMUNITY OF HAITIAN PEOPLE, JAMAICAN PEOPLE, HISPANIC PEOPLE, JEWISH PEOPLE, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES IN TODAY'S WORLD DOWN HERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
GETTING A CITATION FOR SPEEDING CAN SOMETIMES REALLY BE A BURDEN ON PEOPLE.
BLUE LINE SOLUTIONS OPEN THE OFFICE IN BROWARD COUNTY BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE HERE TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO COME IN AND SEE THEIR CITATION, SEE THEIR SPEEDING THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE.
AS PART OF THE PROGRAM, WE ALSO OFFER ALPRS AT ZERO COST.
THEY DO SPEED STUDIES, WHICH I'VE ALREADY DONE IN TAMARAC.
I WAS THE FIRST COMPANY TO COME IN HERE AND DO IT THROUGH THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I'VE WORKED WITH THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH A REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.
I ACTUALLY SET ONE UP IN MY CITY AS WELL, SO I HAVE A VAST KNOWLEDGE ON THAT.
I'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH BSO AND IN TAMARAC TO SEE WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE.
THERE'S A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION OUT THERE.
COMPANIES WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THEY WANT TO RUN THE PROGRAM A HALF HOUR BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS THROUGHOUT THE DAY UNTIL A HALF HOUR AFTER SCHOOL ENDS.
MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS.
YOU CAN RUN THE PROGRAM DURING SCHOOL HOURS, AND WE ARE A COMPANY THAT BELIEVES IN THAT.
WE BELIEVE IN EDUCATING THE PUBLIC AND TEACHING THE PUBLIC ABOUT SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES.
[4.a TR14249 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, establishing the City as an Anti-Bullying and Anti-Hate Community and directing staff to establish initiatives and policies consistent with this resolution; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.ARE YOU A GOOD, CITY ATTORNEY OR DO YOU NEED TO READ IT AGAIN?
>> THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, WILL YOU PLEASE SUMMARIZE THE ITEM.
>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD AFTERNOON.
GOOD EVENING, NEIGHBORS, RESIDENTS, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
TONIGHT, I AM VERY PROUD TO INTRODUCE A LEGISLATION DECLARING TAMARAC AN ANTI-HATE AND AN ANTI-BULLYING CITY.
A VERY DECISIVE STEP TOWARD SHAPING A MORE RESPECTFUL, INCLUSIVE AND UNITED COMMUNITY.
THIS LEGISLATION CANNOT BE MORE TIMELY, NOT FOR ONLY OUR CITY, BUT FOR OUR COUNTRY.
ACROSS THIS NATION, WE'VE SEEN A TROUBLING RISE IN HATE FUELED RHETORIC, POLITICAL POLARIZATION, AND PUBLIC BEHAVIOR THAT HAS NORMALIZED DISRESPECT AND CRUELTY.
IT'S NOT JUST HAPPENING IN GOVERNMENT CHAMBERS OR ONLINE FORUMS LIKE FACEBOOK AND NEXT DOOR.
IT'S SHOWING UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR SCHOOLS, AND TRAGICALLY IN THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN.
TOO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NAVIGATING ENVIRONMENTS WHERE BULLYING, DISCRIMINATION, AND EMOTIONAL HARM HAVE BECOME FAR TOO COMMON.
AS ADULTS, AND AS LEADERS, WE HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TO MODEL THE KIND OF BEHAVIOR WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO EMULATE, WHERE CIVILITY IS A STANDARD, AND KINDNESS IS SIMPLY NOT OPTIONAL.
HERE IN TAMARAC, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET THAT STANDARD.
FOR TOO LONG, OUR CITY HAS BEEN BURDENED BY THE WEIGHT OF POLITICAL DIVISION AND REPUTATIONAL DAMAGE.
AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL REPRESENTING DISTRICT 3, I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF UNCHECKED BULLYING AND POLITICAL GAMESMANSHIP.
NOT JUST DIRECTED AT ME, BUT AT RESIDENTS, CITY STAFF, AND ANYONE WHO DARES TO THINK DIFFERENTLY, THIS HAS TO END.
WE MUST MAKE IT CLEAR THAT EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR VOICE, BUT NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO WEAPONIZE IT AGAINST OTHERS.
WHILE DIFFERING PERSPECTIVES ARE EXPECTED IN A HEALTHY DEMOCRACY, PERSONAL ATTACKS, MISINFORMATION, AND PUBLIC HUMILIATION IS SIMPLY NOT.
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THIS LEGISLATION IS A STATEMENT THAT TAMARAC WILL NOT TOLERATE HATE IN ANY FORM, NOT IN OUR POLITICS, NOT IN OUR SCHOOLS, AND NOT IN OUR STREETS.LET THIS BE A MOMENT WHERE WE COLLECTIVELY CHOOSE A BETTER PATH, ONE GROUNDED IN MUTUAL RESPECT, ONE THAT PROTECTS OUR CHILDREN FROM THE CYCLE OF CRUELTY, AND ONE THAT REFLECTS THE KIND OF COMMUNITY WE ARE STRIVING TO BUILD, SAFE, WELCOMING, AND DIGNIFIED FOR ALL.
AT THIS TIME, I INVITE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SUPPORT ME IN THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION, WE WILL NOW OPEN UP THIS FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE LIST. CAMILLA HACK.
>> WHILE CAMILLA IS COMING UP, AND I DO APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT READING PEOPLE'S NAMES, RIGHT.
>> SORRY. SANNY, YOU'RE ON DECK.
PLEASE PROCEED. SAME RULES AS WITH OUR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
SAY YOUR NAME, YOUR LOCATION, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD EVENING. MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR.
COMMISSIONERS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
RECENTLY RETIRED FROM THE CITY OF MIRAMAR, WHERE I LIVED AND WORKED FOR 25 YEARS.
BEFORE THE CITY OF MIRAMAR, I WORKED WITH THE BROWARD COUNTY PLANNING COUNCIL, AND BEFORE THAT, WITH CARICOM, THE CARIBBEAN HEADS OF GOVERNMENT.
I'M HERE THIS EVENING IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE TAMARAC CITY COMMISSION, ESTABLISHING THE CITY AS AN ANTI-BULLYING AND ANTI-HATE COMMUNITY, ETC.
I DOWNSIZED SIX YEARS AGO FROM THE CITY OF MIRAMAR TO RELOCATE TO THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF TAMARAC.
YES, NOW THE CITY OF TAMARAC IS THE CITY FOR THE LIVES OF MY HANDSOME HUSBAND AND I, WHERE THE CORE VALUES ARE TEAMWORK, ACCOUNTABILITY, INNOVATION, PROFESSIONALISM, AND INTEGRITY, AND WHERE IT'S EXCELLENCE ALWAYS.
ALL THESE VALUES ARE VALUES THAT CERTAINLY APPEAL TO ME.
I SHARED IN MY FAMILY GROUP CHAT THIS MORNING THAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT ON THIS RESOLUTION, AND I ASKED FOR TIT BITS THAT I COULD ADD TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, TO WHICH MY 25-YEAR-OLD GRANDSON PROMPTLY REPLIED, BULLYING IS BAD.
THIS IS FROM SOMEONE WHO EXPERIENCED BULLYING IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHEN HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE RARE CONDITION OF TREVOR'S DISEASE, A BONE DISEASE, WHICH WE DISCOVERED WHEN HE WAS EIGHT-YEARS-OLD AND COULD ONLY BE FIXED THROUGH 11 OPERATIONS.
ABOUT BULLYING, THERE IS THE GENERATIONAL BULLYING, THE YOUNG SHAMING THE ELDERLY, VICE VERSA.
THERE IS INTERFAMILY BULLYING, PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, MENTAL.
THERE IS BULLYING IN THE WORKPLACE, BULLYING EVERYWHERE WHERE WE TURN NOWADAYS, AND THERE IS CYBER BULLYING.
WE COULD ALL JOIN THE TAKE IT LIKE COMMUNITY TO SOLVE THIS, MAYBE.
WHEN THIS RESOLUTION IS PASSED, THE CITY OF TAMARAC WILL SUPPORT INITIATIVES THAT WILL HELP ELIMINATE EXPRESSIONS OF HATE, BULLYING, DISCRIMINATION, AND HARASSMENT.
EDUCATE STUDENTS AND ADULTS ALIKE ON THE CONSEQUENCES OF PARTICIPATING IN BULLYING AND THE HATE BEHAVIOR, AND TEACH VICTIMS, AS WELL AS PERPETRATORS THROUGH POSITIVE INTERVENTION PROGRAMS, AND WILL LEAD BY EXAMPLE BY BEING COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL TO ONE ANOTHER AT COMMISSION MEETINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
OVERALL, WE'RE ALL THAT WE GOT.
BULLYING WORDS AND ACTIONS HURT AND CAN NEVER BE TAKEN BACK, ONLY FORGIVEN, WHICH DOESN'T ERASE THAT IT HAPPENED.
I HAVE MADE THE EFFORT TO COME OUT HERE TONIGHT TO SAY THAT I FULLY SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.
IF YOU NEED ME TO HELP IN ANY WAY, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ON ME.
THANK YOU, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT.
AS TANYA STEWART IS COMING UP.
BEFORE I PASS OVER HERBERT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT LISTED FOR THIS ONE, BUT ARE YOU COMING UP AGAIN ON THIS ONE? FINE. THEN I HAVE MARA ENGLISH NEXT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
WHILE I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF TAMARAC.
I DO LIVE IN BROWARD COUNTY AND YOUR NEIGHBORING CITY, AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE WELL BEING OF ALL COMMUNITIES WITHIN IT.
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I'M HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND HER ANTI-HATE AND ANTI-BULLYING RESOLUTION.I ALSO FEEL COMPELLED TO ADDRESS THE HARMFUL TACTICS BEING USED BY SOME TO DISCREDIT OTHERS THROUGH MISINFORMATION AND PERSONAL ATTACKS.
THESE ACTIONS ARE DEEPLY TROUBLING AND DO NOT REFLECT THE VALUES WE SHOULD BE UPHOLDING IN ANY CITY.
THIS RESOLUTION IS ABOUT MORE THAN POLITICS.
IT'S ABOUT FOSTERING A CULTURE OF RESPECT, SAFETY, AND INCLUSION.
EVEN FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY, IT'S CLEAR THAT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON IS LEADING WITH INTEGRITY AND COURAGE.
HER COMMITMENT TO CREATING A TAMARAC WHERE EVERYONE FEELS SAFE AND VALUED IS INSPIRING AND DESERVES OUR COLLECTIVE SUPPORT.
WE MUST ALL STAND AGAINST HATE, BULLYING, AND THE POLITICS OF PERSONAL DESTRUCTION, NO MATTER WHERE WE LIVE.
WHAT HAPPENS IN ONE CITY AFFECTS THE TONE AND CULTURE OF ALL OUR ENTIRE COUNTY.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON THIS IMPORTANT RESOLUTION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. MARA IS COMING UP.
MY NAME IS MARA ENGLISH, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF KINGS POINT, AND I'VE BEEN A PROUD RESIDENT OF TAMARAC FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.
TONIGHT, I RISE IN FULL SUPPORT OF AN ANTI-BULLYING, ANTI-HATE RESOLUTION BEING PROPOSED BY A NEWLY ELECTED DISTRICT 3 COMMISSIONER KRYSTAL PATTERSON.
THIS RESOLUTION IS A STEP TOWARD MAINTAINING DIGNITY, RESPECT, AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IN OUR COMMISSION CHAMBERS AS WELL.
OFTEN TALK ABOUT TAMARAC AS A CITY OF DIVERSITY OF PROGRESS AND OF PROMISE.
BUT THAT PROMISE IS ONLY MEANINGFUL IF EVERY PERSON, REGARDLESS OF BACKGROUND, BELIEF OR IDENTITY, FEEL SAFE, SEEN, AND SUPPORTED.
BULLYING AND HATE IN ANY FORM, POISON A VISION.
THEY SILENCE VOICES, SOW DIVISION, AND UNDERMINE THE VERY VALUES THAT BROUGHT MANY OF US HERE TONIGHT.
THERE SHOULD BE ZERO TOLERANCE OF RESIDENTS DISRESPECTING POLITICAL LEADERS OR VICE VERSA.
THIS RESOLUTION MATTERS, NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN BULLYING IN SCHOOLS, IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ONLINE, BUT BECAUSE WE EVEN WITNESS IT RIGHT HERE IN THESE VERY CHAMBERS.
FROM THE HARSH TONES AND PERSONAL ATTACKS TO TOXIC EXCHANGES ON SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR CITY LEADERS HAVE NOT BEEN IMMUNE.
WHEN THOSE IN POWER ENGAGE IN BULLYING BEHAVIOR, IT GIVES OTHERS PERMISSION TO DO THE SAME.
AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, I'VE SEEN NEIGHBORS PULL AWAY FROM CIVIC ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF BEING HARASSED OR RIDICULED.
THAT'S NOT THE TAMARAC THAT I CAN BE PROUD OF, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE TAMARAC WE SHOULD BE BUILDING.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I CHOSE TO LIVE IN TAMARAC IS BECAUSE OF THE ZERO TOLERANCE OF RACISM SIGNS I SEE DISPLAYED IN CITY BUILDINGS.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S RESOLUTION OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET A NEW STANDARD, A STANDARD OF RESPECT, CIVILITY, AND ZERO TOLERANCE FOR HATE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT SILENCING DISAGREEMENT, IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING THE WAY WE DISAGREE.
IT'S ABOUT ENSURING THAT OUR COMMUNITY DEBATES IDEAS, NOT PERSONALITIES OR IDENTITIES.
I COMMEND THE COMMISSIONER FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, AND I URGE THIS ENTIRE BODY, NOT ONLY TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION, BUT TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
LET'S SHOW OUR CHILDREN, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND EACH OTHER THAT TAMARAC STANDS FIRMLY AGAINST BULLYING AND HATE.
FORGIVE ME. I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
ARE YOU LISTED ON HERE OR HAVE YOU SIGNED UP?
>> WELL, COME ON UP, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE ORDER.
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BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE ASKING ME IF YOU CAN COME UP.THEN NEXT WILL BE KATE JOHNSON.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAN SCARLETT.
I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMARAC, ONLY THREE YEARS.
I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF KINGS POINT.
I COME HERE TO GIVE 100% SUPPORT TO KRYSTAL PATTERSON'S RESOLUTION 4A.
I NEED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND SO YOU COULD UNDERSTAND WHY I FEEL THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.
I AM A RETIRED EDUCATOR AND FORMER PRINCIPAL IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO FOR EIGHT YEARS, WHERE I ENCOUNTERED BULLYING THROUGHOUT MY CAREER AS TEACHING.
AS PRINCIPAL, I WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY PUT TOGETHER INITIATIVES AND POLICIES TO ADDRESS THAT.
I REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO HAVE THOSE THINGS IN PLACE.
OUR CHILDREN NEED TO BE PROTECTED.
I SAT WITH THE MOTHER OF MY PTA PRESIDENT WHO LOST HER SON TO BULLY.
HE WAS BULLIED AT HIS HIGH SCHOOL, AND BECAUSE HE FELT HE HAD NO ONE TO GO TO, HE GOT A GUN, WHICH IS EASY TO DO IN CHICAGO, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE GUN WORKED.
HE KILLED HIMSELF. HE ACCIDENTALLY PULLED THE TRIGGER.
THAT SUBJECT IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS BULLYING AS A CITY, AS AN INSTITUTION, WITH POLITIES, BUT MORE IMPORTANT INITIATIVES.
I ALSO SEE THE UGLY HEAD OF BULLYING AND HATE SPILL INTO MY COMMUNITY OF KINGS POINT.
I WAS VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TO FLORIDA AND KINGS POINT AFTER LIVING IN CHICAGO, WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH VIOLENCE.
BUT YET RECENTLY, I'VE HEARD OF ACTS OF VIOLENCE AMONG MEMBERS OF KINGS POINT BECAUSE OF HATEFUL ARGUMENTS AND THINGS THAT HAVE DEVELOPED.
THERE SEEMS TO BE NO RECOURSE FOR THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE TO KEEP THAT UNDER CONTROL.
I WOULD HATE TO SEE BECAUSE OF THE CLIMATE WE LIVE IN THAT IT GET OUT OF HAND ANY MORE THAN IT HAS BEEN.
WE NEED POLICIES AND INITIATIVES THAT SHOW THAT AS THE CITY, WE HAVE SOME PLACE TO GO IF WE ARE EXPERIENCING ANY BULLYING.
BULLYING PUTS YOU IN A WEAK POSITION.
YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE IS SOMEONE, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR GOVERNMENT THAT YOU CAN GO TO AND ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, DR. JOHNSON'S COMING UP, WE HAVE REVEREND HANSON ON DECK.
I'M ALL ABOUT ANTI-BULLYING AND ANTI-DISRESPECT.
BUT OUR CITY CODE ALREADY STATES THAT BULLYING IS NOT ALLOWED.
WHY NOW, WHO WILL ENFORCE THIS? WILL YOU ONLY CALL IT OUT WHEN YOU FEEL YOU ARE BEING BULLIED BY RESIDENTS UNDER THEIR FREE SPEECH RIGHT TO CALL OUT YOUR BEHAVIORS, OR WILL YOU CALL EACH OTHER OUT FOR THE BULLYING YOU DO? WHO IS THE ARBITER OF WHAT CONSTITUTES BULLYING? WILL YOU HOLD YOURSELVES TO THE SAME STANDARD? YOU SHOULD BE SETTING AN EXAMPLE BY NOT BULLYING OTHERS, BUT HONESTLY, I HAVE HEARD MORE BULLYING ON THIS DAYS AND IN WORKSHOPS THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THIS CITY.
THAT INCLUDES DISMISSIVE AND RUDE TREATMENT OF STAFF, RESIDENTS, AND BUSINESSES, NAME CALLING, USING THE B WORD AGAINST OTHERS, MAKING RUDE COMMENTS OR EVEN TELLING A STAFF WHO TRIED TO ANSWER A QUESTION, "I DON'T NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU." I COULD GO ON. ALL OF THIS TREATMENT WOULD CONSTITUTE BULLYING BY THE DEFINITION IN YOUR OWN RESOLUTION.
YOUR PROPOSED RESOLUTION STATES IT "CAN INCLUDE VERBAL ABUSE SUCH AS NAME CALLING,
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INSULTS, TAUNTS, THREATS, SARCASM, AND POINTED JOKES." AGAIN, ALL THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN DISPLAYED BY SOME WHO SIT ON THIS DIAS.MORE THAN ONCE, I HAVE HEARD COMMISSIONER WRIGHT CALL OUT ANOTHER COMMISSIONER FOR THEIR BEHAVIORS.
THE CITY CODE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES BULLYING IN CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 11, SECTION 2-408 AND NO ONE FOLLOWS IT, OR IS HELD TO THE STANDARD IT STATES.
IT SAYS, VIOLATION OF ANY OF THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ARTICLE MAY CONSTITUTE GROUNDS FOR SUSPENSION OR REMOVAL FROM OFFICE.
THAT INCLUDES "ANY CITY POLICY, INCLUDING DISCRIMINATION OR HARASSMENT, BULLYING, RETALIATION, ETC., CITY CHARTER, OR VIOLATION OF SFS 112 OR BROWARD COUNTY ETHICS CODES OR ANY OTHER BEHAVIOR DEEMED UNBECOMING A PUBLIC OFFICER." IT CONTINUES.
IF IT'S A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, THEN IT SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED.
BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE REFERRED BY THIS COMMISSION IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED FOR BULLYING.
BUT HAVE YOU EVER DONE THAT? HAS ANYONE HERE BEEN REFERRED BECAUSE OF THEIR RUDENESS, THEIR HARASSMENT, THEIR YELLING, OR THEIR BULLYING? NO. AT THE LAST MEETING, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON SAID, "EVEN BULLIES DON'T LIKE TO BE BULLIED." THAT'S A TELLING STATEMENT.
>> THANK YOU. HAS REVEREND HANSON COMES UP.
I'VE GOT KEESHA LEWIS BOLDEN ON DECK, AND THEN WE HAVE ANNA BOLDEN RIGHT AFTERWARDS.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITIZENS OF TAMARAC.
A GREETING OF PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO YOU ALL.
TONIGHT, I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR OUR COMMISSIONER, KRYSTAL PATTERSON, WHO HAS CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED A COMMITMENT OF PUTTING PEOPLE OVER POLITICS.
IN A WORLD WHERE PARTISAN SQUABBLES OFTEN DOMINATE THE HEADLINES.
IT IS REFRESHING TO SEE A LEADER PRIORITIZE THE WELL BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE NEED LEADERS WHO UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRUE MEASURE OF SUCCESS LIES NOT IN PARTY LOYALTY, BUT IN THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE ON PEOPLE'S LIVES.
OUR COMMISSIONER IS DOING JUST THAT, WORKING TIRELESSLY TO ADDRESS THE PRESSING ISSUES THAT AFFECT US ALL.
FROM ENSURING OUR STREETS ARE SAFE TO PROMOTING INITIATIVES THAT FOSTER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SHE IS MAKING A REAL DIFFERENCE.
AS NELSON MANDELA ONCE SAID, THE GREATEST GLORY IN LIVING LIES NOT IN NEVER FAILING BUT RATHER RISING EVERY TIME WE FAIL.
LET'S RISE ABOVE THE NOISE AND WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD A CITY THAT VALUES INTEGRITY, RESPECT, AND THE WELL BEING OF ALL CITIZENS, A CITY WHERE EVERY RESIDENT FEELS HEARD, SEEN, AND VALUED.
BY WORKING TOGETHER, WE CAN CREATE A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR OUR CITY.
I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING OUR COMMISSIONER'S EFFORTS AND JOIN ME IN BUILDING A COMMUNITY THAT TRULY REFLECTS OUR VALUES.
I CLOSE WITH A QUOTE FROM A CONTEMPORARY SAINT, ST. DEON OF WARWICK.
SHE SAYS, WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS NOW IS LOVE, SWEET LOVE.
SAY IT WITH ME, IF YOU KNOW IT.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THERE'S JUST TOO LITTLE LOVE.
IF I HAD A VOICE, I WOULD SING IT.
I DON'T BUT MY HANDSOME WIFE DOES.
>> THANK YOU, REVEREND. AS KISHA IS COMING UP, WE'VE GOT HANNAH ON DECK.
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>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, MADAM VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, DISTINGUISHED OFFICIALS AND FELLOW RESIDENTS.
I AM KISHA LOUIS BOLDEN, A RESIDENT OF TAMARAC.
I WANT TO PUBLICLY EXPRESS MY SINCERE APPRECIATION TO OUR DISTRICT 3 COMMISSIONER, KRYSTAL PATTERSON FOR HER HARD WORK, COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION TO OUR BELOVED CITY.
THANK YOU FOR SEEING ALL THE RESIDENTS OF OUR DISTRICT AS ACTUAL PEOPLE.
IT WARMS MY HEART TO HEAR MY NEIGHBORS SPEAK SO POSITIVELY OF THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT, LIKE THE RESIDENTIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, IT'S LIKE A LIFELINE FOR SO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS.
THANK YOU FOR PRIORITIZING PEOPLE OVER POLITICS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
LET'S KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING.
LET'S WORK TOWARDS A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR OUR CITY, WHERE EVERY VOICE IS HEARD, RESPECTED, AND EVERY PERSPECTIVE IS VALUED.
I HAVE BEEN AN EDUCATOR IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 20 YEARS.
I AM PLEASED TO SEE THIS ANTI BULLYING, ANTI HATE RESOLUTION COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.
TONIGHT, I STAND FOR SOMETHING THAT MATTERS DEEPLY TO ME AND OUR COMMUNITY, ZERO TOLERANCE FOR BULLYING.
THERE SHOULD BE A ZERO TOLERANCE FOR BULLYING AND HATE IN OUR SCHOOLS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND OUR GOVERNMENT.
THERE IS NO ROOM IN TAMARAC OUR BELOVED CITY FOR HATE, AND THERE'S NO ROOM FOR BULLYING.
THESE BEHAVIORS ARE UNACCEPTABLE AND WE WON'T TOLERATE BEHAVIOR THAT UNDERMINES THE DIGNITY AND THE WORTH OF OUR RESIDENTS.
WE ARE A KIND AND COMPASSIONATE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE THE TAMARAC OF TOMORROW.
WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL.
WE CAN ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS FROM REVITALIZING OUR LOCAL ECONOMY TO IMPROVING PUBLIC SERVICES.
BUT IT REQUIRES COOPERATION AND A WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN.
TOGETHER WE CAN ACHIEVE GREAT THINGS.
BUT WE HAVE TO DO THIS TOGETHER.
LET'S MAKE OUR CITY A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE THRIVES.
I HAVE 15 SECONDS AND I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO THE YOUNG LADY WHO MENTIONED WHAT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN OUR CITY STATUTE.
THIS RESOLUTION SPEAKS TO ESTABLISHING INITIATIVES AND POLICIES CONSISTENT WITH THIS RESOLUTION.
FOR THAT, I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT IT.
NOW WE HAVE HANNAH BOLDEN COMING DOWN, AND INGRID ROBERTS IS NEXT.
>> GOOD EVENING. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS SO BEAR WITH ME, PLEASE.
>> DO NOT BE NERVOUS. WE DON'T BITE.
I'M IN 11TH GRADE AND I ATTEND J. P. TARAVELLA, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS ANTI BULLYING ANTI HATE RESOLUTION.
I LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW MY GRATEFULNESS AND MY APPRECIATION FOR THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT THE INITIATIVES AND THE POLICIES THAT SHALL FOLLOW THIS RESOLUTION SHOULD BE DESCRIBED IN MANY WAYS, LET ALONE WORDS, BUT I'M ONLY ALLOWED TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW.
BEING A TEENAGE GIRL IS ENOUGH IN ITSELF FROM MAINTAINING GOOD GRADES AND KEEPING TRACK OF A SOCIAL LIFE, NOT TO MENTION KEEPING UP WITH CHORES AND GOING TO WORK ON TIME.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT BEING OVERWHELMED BY BULLYING IS NOT DISCUSSED AND NOT MERELY MENTIONED ENOUGH IN THE WORLD BEYOND SCHOOL AGE KIDS.
TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, I'VE DEALT WITH BULLYING THROUGHOUT MY 17 YEARS OF LIFE, WHETHER IT'S ME SITTING IN MY SECOND GRADE CLASS AND KIDS ASKING ME WHERE MY HAIR TEXTURE IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS.
EVEN JUST LAST MONTH WHEN MY CLASSMATES WERE BLATANTLY BEING RUDE TO ME BECAUSE I WAS READING A BOOK.
I SHOW THESE EXAMPLES TO HOPEFULLY OPEN YOUR EYES AND HEARTS AND MINDS.
YOUR RECEPTIVENESS IS ESSENTIAL TO WHEN DEALING WITH PEOPLE, SPECIFICALLY, YOUNG PEOPLE, SUCH AS MYSELF.
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BULLYING IS NOT ANYTHING SMALL OR MINOR OR SOMETHING TO JUST GET OVER.BULLYING CAN HAVE SERIOUS AND LONG LASTING CONSEQUENCES TO INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.
I WAS OVERJOYED TO HEAR ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION PROJECT.
WHEN I HEARD IT WAS BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT, I FELT THAT IT WAS MY MISSION TO ATTEND THIS MEETING AND TO LISTEN IN AND ALSO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE.
THIS TOPIC BEING DISCUSSED IN MY CITY MAKES ME FEEL LESS ALONE AND HAS ALLOWED ME TO REALIZE THAT BULLYING AND HATRED IS NOT SOME SILLY SCHOOL THING OR A RIGHT OF PASSIONS, SOME MAY SAY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
BULLYING IS FAR MORE THAN SCHOOL AGE KIDS AND YOUNG PEOPLE.
TO HEAR AND TO SEE THE COMMISSION IS WILLING TO UNDERSTAND AND MAKE AN EFFORT TO PROMOTE THIS WARMS MY HEART.
IT IS MY PRAYER THAT HEARING MY ACCOUNT AS SOMEONE PART OF THE FUTURES GENERATION WILL HELP OTHERS THAT JUST DON'T WANT TO KNOW HOW BULLYING AND HATRED CAN BE DETRIMENTAL TO ANYONE.
THANK YOU FOR THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> YOU DID GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LOT OF HAPPY HANDS ARE OUT THERE.
AS INGRID IS COMING UP, WE ARE NOW GOING TO LATRES.
FORGIVE ME. IS IT JULIUS? BUT LATRES YOU ARE THE NEXT GUY.
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, PROTOCOL ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
I AM PLEASED TO SEE THE PASSAGE OF THIS IMPORTANT ANTI BULLYING AND ANTI HATE RESOLUTION BEING PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
IT'S A VITAL STEP TOWARDS CREATING A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERYONE FEELS SAFE, RESPECTED, AND VALUED.
THIS RESOLUTION IS A POWERFUL STATEMENT THAT WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY FORM OF BULLYING AND HATE SPEECH IN OUR COMMUNITY.
BY IMPLEMENTING THIS RESOLUTION, YOU ARE SENDING A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO FOSTERING A POSITIVE AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL.
I HOPE THAT YOU VOTE FOR THIS RESOLUTION, BECAUSE YOU WILL BE LETTING EVERYONE IN BROWARD COUNTY KNOW THAT TAMARAC HAS A ZERO TOLERANCE FOR ANTI BULLYING AND ANTI HATE.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS. APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU. LATRES. LATRES IS COMING UP.
I'VE GOT MARIANNE AND WILLIAM GONZALEZ.
ARE YOU BOTH SPEAKING? YOU'LL BE NEXT. THANKS.
>> SORRY, I'M GETTING MYSELF TOGETHER.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AND FELLOW RESIDENTS.
MY NAME'S LATRES JOLMIS, AND I LIVE IN TAMARAC DISTRICT 3, AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING IN SUPPORT OF COMMISSIONER KRYSTAL PATTERSON'S ANTI HATE AND ANTI BULLYING INITIATIVE.
THIS LEGISLATION IS NOT JUST TIMELY, IT'S NECESSARY.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE SEEN A PATTERN IN TAMARAC WHERE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY MAKE IT THEIR BUSINESS TO BULLY ELECTED OFFICIALS WHEN DECISIONS DON'T GO THEIR WAY.
RATHER THAN ENGAGE IN CIVIL DISCOURSE OR OFFER CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK, THEY RESORT TO SPREADING LIES, RUMORS, AND PERSONAL ATTACKS, WITH THE SOLE PURPOSE OF DAMAGING REPUTATIONS AND GAINING POLITICAL CLOUT.
THIS IS NOT LEADERSHIP, AND THIS IS NOT WHO TAMARAC SHOULD BE.
WHAT'S MOST CONCERNING IS THAT THESE TACTICS DON'T JUST HURT THE OFFICIALS BEING TARGETED, THEY HURT THE COMMUNITY.
THEY DISCOURAGE GOOD PEOPLE FROM RUNNING FOR OFFICE, AND THEY ALSO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE OF FEAR AND MISTRUST THAT STALLS PROGRESS FOR EVERYONE.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON HAS FACED THESE ATTACKS PERSONALLY WITH GRACE AND STRENGTH AND CONTINUES TO SERVE WITH TRANSPARENCY AND INTEGRITY.
THIS INITIATIVE IS A REFLECTION OF HER COMMITMENT TO CHANGING THE CULTURE, NOT JUST FOR HERSELF, BUT FOR EVERY RESIDENT WHO WANTS TO FEEL SAFE SPEAKING UP.
IT'S TIME WE SAY THIS BEHAVIOR IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IN TAMARAC.
WE CAN DISAGREE WITHOUT BEING DISAGREEABLE, WE CAN DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY WITHOUT CRUELTY, AND WE CAN SHAPE A CITY CULTURE THAT REFLECTS RESPECT, NOT REVENGE.
PLEASE SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION AND STAND ON THE SIDE OF TRUTH, UNITY, AND PROGRESS.
THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO MARIAN GONZALEZ IS ON HER WAY UP.
THEN THE LAST PERSON THAT I HAVE SIGNED UP IS KESHA GRAY.
YOU'LL BE NEXT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, SO YOU'LL COME.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.
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THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME AND SPEAK.I THINK EVERYONE HAS SAID A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THE RESOLUTION, VERY POWERFUL THINGS.
I JUST WANTED TO STATE MY FULL SUPPORT OF RESOLUTION 4A FOR THE ESTABLISHING OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, WHICH I LOVE.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE ISLES OF TAMARAC.
AS AN ANTI BULLYING AND ANTI HATE COMMUNITY AND DIRECTING STAFF TO ESTABLISH INITIATIVES AND POLICIES CONSISTENT WITH THIS RESOLUTION, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THAT ONE OF MY GRANDSONS, I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN, 14 GRANDCHILDREN.
ONE OF MY GRANDSONS WAS A SEVERE VICTIM BULLYING AT THE YOUNG AGE OF EIGHT.
IT WAS VERY TRAUMATIC FOR HIM, HIS IMMEDIATE FAMILY, MY DAUGHTER, MY SON-IN-LAW, AND HIS SISTER, THEY WERE OSTRACIZED.
THEY WERE HUMILIATED ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
IT WAS A VERY, VERY TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE.
WHEN I SAW THAT THIS RESOLUTION WAS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, I JUST FELT VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT BECAUSE, AS THE YOUNG LADY SAID EARLIER, IT IS VERY FAR REACHING.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU JUST GET OVER.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY, WHETHER IT'S YOUNG PEOPLE, ELDERLY, ANY ADULTS, ANY ENVIRONMENT.
I'VE EXPERIENCED IT MYSELF FROM SCHOOL, FROM WORK, EVEN IN THE MILITARY.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
I DID WRITE DOWN A FEW THINGS ABOUT IT.
I KNOW THAT ZERO TOLERANCE FOR IT IS IMPORTANT.
IT WOULD MAKE ME VERY PROUD AS A TAMARAC RESIDENT FOR THIS INITIATIVE, THIS RESOLUTION TO BE VOTED IN OR WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS, I'M DEFINITELY NOT A POLITICIAN.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY SERIOUS IN OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND OUR WORLD, AND OUR COMMUNITY AND IN OUR NATION.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PUTTING THIS BEFORE US, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL VOTE THIS INTO LAW OR WHATEVER IT IS. THANK YOU.
>> BEFORE YOU LEAVE US. BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SAY YOUR NAME BUT WE GOT YOUR ADDRESS IN THERE, WE GOT YOUR LOCATION, SO JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME.
>> EXCELLENT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
IF YOU'RE NOT YET ON OUR HONOR WALL, WE NEED TO GET YOU ON OUR HONOR WALL.
BUT YOU'RE TWO? THEN WE NEED TO.
>> GOOD EVENING. I SEE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS DOCEKIHA GREY, AND I AM A PROUD RESIDENT AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNER BROWARD COUNTY.
I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE SISTER CITY OF LAUDERDALE.
I COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO EXPRESS MY FULL SUPPORT FOR COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S ANTI-HATE AND ANTI-BULLYING INITIATIVE.
IT IS A MEANINGFUL STEP TOWARD CREATING A COMMUNITY WHERE EVERY PERSON IS VALUED, PROTECTED, AND TREATED WITH THE DIGNITY THEY DESERVE.
WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME WHERE HOSTILITY AND HARMFUL RHETORIC HAVE BECOME FAR TOO COMMON.
WHETHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, MANY OF US HAVE WITNESSED THE IMPACT THAT THESE ACTIONS HAVE ON INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES.
WE SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
WHILE THESE CHALLENGES MAY SEEM OVERWHELMING AT TIMES, THEY CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO TAKE ROOT IN TAMARAC.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S INITIATIVE GIVES US A PATH FORWARD, ONE THAT IS CENTERED ON SHARED RESPONSIBILITY, RESPECT, AND UNITY.
IT REMINDS US THAT WE EACH PLAY A ROLE IN SHAPING THE TONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR SCHOOLS, AND OUR CITY.
THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN HOW WE GUIDE THE NEXT GENERATION.
BY PROMOTING COMPASSION, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THOUGHTFUL DIALOGUE, WE EQUIP OUR CHILDREN AND OURSELVES TO LEAD WITH CHARACTER AND COURAGE.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REFLECT ON WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A COMMUNITY.
FOR ME, IT MEANS LOOKING OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER.
IT MEANS REFUSING TO STAY SILENT IN THE FACE OF HARM.
IT MEANS BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT CREATING A CITY THAT IS NOT ONLY SAFE, BUT ONE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ENCOURAGED TO BE EXACTLY WHO THEY ARE WITHOUT FEAR OR SHAME.
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LET US SHOW THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC IS A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE CAN BELONG, AND WHERE DIFFERENCE IT IS NOT JUST ACCEPTED, BUT APPRECIATED.THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. MANUELA, YOU'RE NEXT.
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHANDRA LEWIS.
I AM A RESIDENT OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY OF TAMARAC.
I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK IN FULL SUPPORT OF COMMISSIONER KRYSTAL PATTERSON'S INITIATIVE TO DECLARE TAMARAC AN ANTI-HATE AND ANTI-BULLYING CITY.
THIS LEGISLATION IS LONG OVERDUE.
TOO MANY OF US HAVE WITNESSED OR EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND THE TOXIC BEHAVIOR THAT HAS PLAGUED OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR SCHOOLS, HOAS, AND OUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
WE DESERVE A CITY WHERE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION AREN'T MET WITH PERSONAL ATTACKS, WHERE OUR CHILDREN FEEL SAFE TO GO TO SCHOOLS, AND OUR RESIDENTS TRUST THEIR COMMUNITY ADVOCATES.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON HAS SHOWN TREMENDOUS STRENGTH IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY, DESPITE POLITICAL GAMES, SHE HAS STAYED FOCUSED ON THE PEOPLE, AND THIS INITIATIVE IS JUST ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF HER COMMITMENT TO LIFTING THE TONE OF THE CITY AND CREATING A TAMARAC WE ALL CAN BE PROUD OF.
I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION AND SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE.
BULLYING, INTIMIDATION, AND HATE ARE NOT WELCOME HERE IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MANUELA IS COMING DOWN, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM WHO DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY? SEEING THAT NO ONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM WILL BE CLOSED RIGHT AFTER MANUELA SPEAKS.
>> HI. I'M MANUELA, TARA KELLER AND RESIDENT OF BOMBAY DISTRICT 2.
I ALSO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT TO JUST SAY IS THAT WHAT WOULD BE THE INITIATIVES AND POLICIES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE ANTI-BULLYING AND ANTI-HATE? I WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE POLICIES ARE.
THE ANTI-BULLYING ANTI-HATE, I HOPE WILL START WITH THE CITY COMMISSION, BECAUSE IN PAST, THE WORKSHOPS AND OTHER MEETINGS ARE JUST LIKE A SHAMBLE.
ANYWAY, AS I SAID, I AM INTERESTED IN HOW THE POLICIES WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AND WHAT INITIATIVES WILL BE TAKEN TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS RESOLUTION.
WE NOW WILL GO TO DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.
I AM NOT SEEING ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM BY THE COMMISSION. I HAVE VICE MAYOR DAN.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE TODAY, I HAD TO PRAY WITH A PARENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO, BECAUSE OUR CHILD TRIED TO COMMIT SUICIDE AND ACTUALLY PASSED OUT.
TO SEE THIS COME UP TODAY, I'M LIKE, MY GOD, THIS IS SO RELEVANT.
IT STARTS WITH US AS THE ADULTS.
SOMEONE CAME UP AND SAID, THIS WHOLE, YOU'VE NEVER HEARD ME BULLY ANYONE.
I JUST SPEAK MY TRUTH, AND THAT'S IT AND WHAT I SEEM TO THINK RIGHT, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING I DO.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING ANYONE IN HERE SHOULD DO TO BE MANIPULATIVE, DECEPTIVE, JUST TO GET SOMEONE TO FEEL LESS THAN WHAT THEY ARE.
I 100% SUPPORT YOU ON THIS INITIATIVE, AND I HOPE EVERYONE IN HERE DOES, AND MORE THAN SUPPORTING THIS INITIATIVE OR THIS RESOLUTION IS ACTUALLY CHANGING WHO WE ARE AS PERSON.
THINK TWICE BEFORE WE DO SOMETHING NEGATIVE TO SOMEONE ELSE.
>> THANK YOU. I AM NOT SEEING ANYBODY ELSE HAVING ANYTHING TO SAY. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
THANK YOU, ALL RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE HEARING THE COMMENTARY FROM EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, FOR BRINGING THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
I TOO, AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE.
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IT IS NEEDED IN OUR CITY.TO EVERY ACTION, THERE IS A REACTION.
WE DON'T SEE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHEN THEY GIVE ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL THE MIDDLE FINGER BECAUSE THE MIDDLE FINGER DOES NOT HAVE A VOICE, BUT IT HAPPENED.
WE DON'T HEAR WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS TELL ANOTHER MEMBER, GO BACK TO BEING MUTE WITH YOUR LARYNGITIS, BUT IT HAPPENED.
WE DON'T HEAR WHEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TELLS ANOTHER, YOUR WIFE DESERVES TO BE SICK, BUT IT HAPPENED.
WE DON'T HEAR WHEN ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL TELLS THE OTHER YOU ARE STEALING FROM YOUR CHURCH, BUT IT HAPPENED.
WE DON'T SEE WHEN ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL WALKS INTO A TAMARAC BUSINESS AND TELLS THAT TAMARAC BUSINESS OWNER REMOVE THAT STICKER FROM YOUR WINDOW BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE THAT ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT IT HAPPENED.
WE DON'T SEE WHEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ASK A CITY EMPLOYEE TO GO OUT TO A CITY OWNED LAND, TELLING THEM TO REMOVE A POLITICAL SIGN BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE OTHER COMMISSIONER, BUT IT HAPPENED.
WE DON'T SEE WHEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ASKS A CITY VENDOR TO PAY FOR A BIG RED TRUCK THAT SAYS, STOP BOLTON.
BUT IT HAPPENED. WE DON'T SEE WHEN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL PAYS A BLOGGER TO ATTACK ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, BUT IT HAPPENED.
YOU REMAIN COMPLICIT IN BULLYING WHEN YOU ALLOW YOUR FRIENDS TO COME TO THE MIC TO BULLY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, IT HAPPENS EVERY MEETING.
YOU ALSO REMAIN COMPLICIT WHEN YOU ASK YOUR FRIENDS TO CALL OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, IMBECILE, CLOWN OR A PIECE OF, BUT IT HAPPENS.
IT HAPPENED. SOMETIMES I'M TOLD, MARLON, DON'T SPEAK OUT. JUST STOP.
THEY'RE GOING TO PAINT YOU AS A BULLY AGAIN AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU GET THE BITTER END OF THE STICK.
WELL, I WAS TOLD BY MY PARENTS WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, SPEAK OUT WHEN SOMEONE BULLIES YOU.
THE PRICE I PAY IS TO BE PAINTED WITH A BRUSH.
THAT HE'S THE BAD GUY WHILE THE REAL BULLY THAT TELLS OTHER PEOPLE TO GO AND FILE COMPLAINTS AND WRITE NEGATIVE ARTICLES ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE ON THE DIAS, THEIR OWN COLLEAGUES, JUST PRETENDS TO BE THE DANCING, SWEET, LOVING ELECTED OFFICIAL.
THEY HIDE THEIR HAND WITH A SMILE, AND THEY DANCE WITH RESIDENTS ONE AT A TIME.
THE BULLYING HAS TO STOP, AND IT HURTS, BUT WE SMILE ANYWAY.
I THANK COMMISSIONER PATTERSON FOR HAVING THE BOLDNESS TO STEP FORWARD AND BRING THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
IT IS NECESSARY, SO NECESSARY.
YOU ARE A RENAISSANCE CHILD FOR BRINGING THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
WHO RUNS THE WORLD? CARLS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I AM GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT.
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I'M GLAD TO HEAR THE SUPPORT.I HOPE YOU DO TAKE SOME THINGS THAT ARE SAID WITH A GRAIN OF WHAT WHERE THEY'RE BEING SAID AND WHAT THEY'RE BEING ALLUDED TO WITH NO BASIS, NO FACTS, AND JUST PURE FICTION.
AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, TO SAY WE WILL NOT BULLY ANYBODY, AND WE WILL NOT DEFAME ANYBODY, AND WE WILL NOT HARASS ANYBODY, YET ALL OF A SUDDEN, AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS, ATTACKS ARE COMING FORWARD AND NOBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE DOESN'T BELIEVE WHERE IT'S COMING FROM OR WHO'S COMING TO.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO TIT FOR TAT, BECAUSE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO STOP THIS AND THE ADDITIONAL LIES IN THE MALARKEY AND THE CRUD THAT COMES WITH IT.
ACTUALLY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WAS EXCITED TO HAVE THIS COME FORWARD, BECAUSE, AS HAS BEEN PRESENTED, WE DO HAVE OUR OWN ETHICS.
BROWARD COUNTY HAS AN ETHICS CODE.
CITY OF TAMARAC HAS AN ETHICS CODE.
THE STATE FLORIDA, STATE LEGISLATURE 112 CHAPTER LEGISLATES OUR BEHAVIOR.
WHEN WE COME HERE TO OFFICE, WE SWEAR THAT WE WILL UPHOLD THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION, THE US CONSTITUTION, TAMARAC ORDINANCES, AND WE WILL BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR RULES AND WE WILL ABIDE BY THEM.
WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WORKING ON TRYING TO HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM FOR OUR ORDINANCES AND OUR BEHAVIOR, SO WE'RE ALSO NOT HAVING SOME OF OUR VENDORS WHO ARE COMING BEFORE US FEEL LIKE THEY MIGHT BE UNCOMFORTABLE TO DO BUSINESS BEFORE US, FOR OUR BEHAVIOR.
WE'VE HAD THESE RULES IN PLACE.
WE'VE HAD SOME ENFORCEMENT PUT IN PLACE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED CONVERSATION BECAUSE WHAT THIS IS IS A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORKSHOP THIS AND COME UP WITH SOME GOOD PLANS AND MAKE SURE IN THIS, I'M HOPEFUL, THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ENFORCEABILITY.
THAT YOU CANNOT GO OUT PUTTING THINGS ONLINE.
YOU CANNOT GO OUT PUTTING THINGS IN A COMMISSION MEETING THAT ARE UNTRUE, THAT ARE NOT BASED IN FACT, AND NOT DO THIS.
WE CAN ACTUALLY JUST GET TO THE BUSINESS AT HAND.
I TOO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT WILL COME FROM THIS BECAUSE HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE.
I WILL SAY THIS, AND OTHERS HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE.
IN GENERAL, IT'S A SHAME THAT WE HAVE TO PUT CERTAIN RULES IN PLACE FOR THEM TO BE FOLLOWED FOR PEOPLE TO BE GOOD, ETHICAL, MORAL, KIND, NICE, DECENT HUMAN BEINGS.
WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN MORAL COMPASS, AND I BELIEVE PREDOMINANTLY, 99% OF US FOLLOW IT.
IT IS A SHAME WHEN SOMETIMES IT MAY BE A ONE OFF.
I AM PROUD OF EVERYONE WHO HAS STOOD UP HERE AND TOLD THEIR MATTERS OF THEIR BULLYING.
HANNAH, IT'S NOT JUST FOR YOUNG ADULTS, IT'S NOT JUST FOR EIGHT YEAR OLDS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THE WORLD HAS WOUND UP GOING, AND FORGIVE ME, I DO BLAME THE IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE INTERNET, SO EVERYBODY AS A PROFESSIONAL TO GET THEIR STORY OUT THERE IS VERY HARMFUL, AND ANYBODY WHO FEELS VERY COMFORTABLE HIDING BEHIND A SCREEN, JUST SAYING WHATEVER THEY WANT WITHOUT KNOWING THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THE PERSON READING IT OR THE OTHER PEOPLE READING IT ABOUT THAT PERSON.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE ARE THE EXAMPLE, AND WE ACTUALLY LIVE BY THE EXAMPLE AND NOT JUST SAY THE WORDS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WHATEVER WE ARE WIND UP ABLE TO DO THAT REINFORCES WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO US IS WRITTEN IN DIFFERENT WORDING.
FINE, LET'S BOLSTER IT, LET'S STRENGTHEN IT.
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, AND MOST OF ALL, HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING THINGS OUT THERE THAT ARE NOT TRUE.
I DO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, THEN I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ROLE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> AM I ALLOWED TO VOTE 10 TIMES?
>> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR DANIEL.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. NOW, IT IS 9:30.
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE RECESS, AND WE WILL BE BACK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REST ROOMS ARE OUT THAT DOOR TO THE RIGHT AND THEN RIGHT, IF YOU NEED THEM. THANK YOU.
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>> IT IS 9:45, AND WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD.
HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A GOOD BREAK.
WE ARE NOW UP TO 4B, TR 14251.
[4.b TR14251 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, approving the First Amendment to the Contract for Sale and Purchase of Real Property, attached hereto as Exhibit “1”, between Matt Rosenbaum, Co-Trustee of the Tamarac Land Trust dated July 10, 2013, and EU International, LLC, a Florida limited liability company, to permanently remove folio number 4941-08-27-0040 (36,001 sq. ft.) from the contract and replace it with property bearing folio number 4941-08-27-0060 (24,633 sq. ft.), for a reduced purchase price of five million nine hundred sixty-six thousand seven hundred fourteen dollars and seventy cents ($5,966,714.70); authorizing the City Manager and City Attorney to take all necessary action to effectuate the disposition; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
CITY ATTORNEY IS ABOUT TO READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> ITEM 4B, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF CITY OF TAMARAC APPROVING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT AND SALE ON PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY BETWEEN ROSAMOND IN COURTESY OF TAMARAC LAND TRUST DATED JULY 10TH, 2013, AND EU INTERNATIONAL LLC, A FLOW LIMITED LIBRARY THE COMPANY PERMIT TO REMOVE FOLIO NUMBER 4941-08270040 FROM THE CONTRACT AND REPLACEMENT PROPERTY, BEARING THE FOLIO NUMBER 4941-08-270060, WHICH IS A 24,633 SQUARE FEET LAND AREA FOR A REDUCED PURCHASE PRICE OF $5,966,714.70.
AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTION TO EFFECTUATE THIS RESOLUTION, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR [INAUDIBLE], PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
WE HAVE MATTHEW SCOTT FROM GREENSPOON MARDER HERE, DESIGNATED AGENT FOR EU INTERNATIONAL, READY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.
I AM A ZONING ATTORNEY AT THE LAW FIRM OF GREENSPOON MARDER WITH AN ADDRESS OF 200 EAST BROWARD BOULEVARD.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF EU INTERNATIONAL, AND YES, I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE AND SALE OF REAL PROPERTY.
BACK IN JULY, WE CAME TO CITY COMMISSION.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO GET APPROVAL TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY TO PURCHASE THE PARCELS YOU SEE IN BLUE.
IT IS TWO PARCELS IN TAMARAC VILLAGE.
ON THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN IS THE EXISTING AMPHITHEATER THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED PREVIOUSLY, AND THEN A SPLASH PAD ON THE TOP LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN.
WE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY FOR THESE TWO PARCELS, AND THE CONTRACT HAD CERTAIN PROVISIONS AND REQUIREMENTS TO REDEVELOP THOSE WITH A MIXED USE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.
ENTERED INTO THAT CONTRACT IN JULY, AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE VARIOUS PLANS FOR THE PROJECT, ARCHITECTURAL PLANS, LANDSCAPING PLANS, SITE PLAN, AND FIGURING OUT THE PROGRAM.
AS WE GOT INTO IT, WE THOUGHT THAT IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO DISCUSS WITH THE CITY TRYING TO CREATE ONE UNIFIED PARCEL ON THE WEST SIDE AND THEN RELOCATING THE AMPHITHEATER, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT.
THIS DEPICTS AND EFFECTIVELY SUMMARIZES THIS FIRST AMENDMENT.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS MODIFY THE CONTRACT SO THAT THE CITY WOULD THEN BE SELLING TO MY CLIENT ALL OF THE EASTERN PARCEL, AND THEN NOT SELLING THE WESTERN PARCEL, AND INSTEAD OF THAT, MY CLIENT WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO RELOCATE THE AMPHITHEATER TO THE WESTERN PARCEL.
THE REASON WHY THERE'S A CHANGE IN PRICE FOR THE CONTRACT IS THAT THE WESTERN PARCEL IS LARGER THAN THE EASTERN PARCEL.
AS THIS COMMISSION LIKELY KNOWS, SALES OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS, THEY HAVE TO BE BASED ON AN APPRAISAL, AND SO THAT'S THE MODIFICATION TO THE AMOUNT BECAUSE EFFECTIVELY MY CLIENT IS BUYING LESS PROPERTY.
HERE, AGAIN, DEPICTS WHAT WOULD BE ACHIEVED IF THIS FIRST AMENDMENT IS APPROVED TONIGHT.
WE'D BE MERGING THE EASTERN PARCEL TO MAKE IT A CLEANER DEVELOPMENT SITE TO ALLOW US TO REDUCE THE OVERALL HEIGHT OF THAT PROJECT, AND JUST MAKE IT AN OVERALL BETTER PROJECT, AND THEN RELOCATE THE AMPHITHEATER TO THE WEST SIDE WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING SPLASH PAD, AND THEN SOME BATHROOMS THAT ARE ODDLY PLACED IN MY VIEW FROM A URBAN DESIGN AND LANDSCAPING DESIGN PERSPECTIVE.
HERE IS OUR PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THE RELOCATION.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS TAKE THE EXISTING AMPHITHEATER STRUCTURE AND MOVE IT TO THE WEST SIDE, DEMOLISH THE BATHROOMS, THAT, AS I SAID, ARE STANDING OUT AWKWARDLY IN THAT SPLASH PAD,
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AND THEN EFFECTIVELY CONSOLIDATE THAT ENTIRE WESTERN SITE INTO AN AMENITY SPACE FOR RESIDENTS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, FOR KIDS TO PLAY, AND THEN WE WOULD RELOCATE THE BATHROOMS TO THE BACK SIDE OR THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE AMPHITHEATER.I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE CONTEXT.
THE SITE HAS SAT VACANT FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, BUT ORIGINALLY, THE VISION FOR IT WAS FOR IT TO BE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
PLAN WAS TO PUT A DUMPSTER ON THAT WEST SIDE THERE AND THEN HAVE PARKING.
LOTS OF ASPHALT AND COMMERCIAL.
THAT WASN'T BUILT AND SO THAT SITE IS SAT VACANT.
HERE AGAIN IS THE PROPOSED PLAN.
IT'S FAIRLY OBVIOUS, BUT WORTH STATING THAT WE ARE DRASTICALLY INCREASING THE LANDSCAPED AREA, THE GREEN SPACE FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, WHICH WAS THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
WE'RE ALSO ADDING AMPLIFIED LANDSCAPING ON THE WEST SIDE TO BUFFER IT FROM THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE THERE AND REMOVE ALL THAT ASPHALT.
AGAIN, HERE IS JUST A COMPARISON OF WHAT WAS APPROVED AND ENVISIONED BEFORE INTO WHAT WOULD BE THE NEW PLAN.
IF THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, MY CLIENT WOULD PROCEED WITH THE SITE PLANNING EXERCISE, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THE ENTITLEMENT STUFF FOR THE EAST SIDE THAT WOULD COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AFTER GOING THROUGH YOUR STAFF, CHECKING ALL THOSE BOXES, AND THEN IF THAT IS APPROVED, SHORTLY AFTER THEN, UNDER THIS FIRST AMENDMENT, MY CLIENT WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO SUBMIT BUILDING PERMITS FOR AND RELOCATE THE AMPHITHEATER AND PAY THE COST FOR THAT RELOCATION.
HERE ARE JUST SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT I'VE ALLUDED TO BRIEFLY ALREADY.
THERE IS A LOGIC TO INTEGRATING THE EXISTING SPLASH PAD AND THE AMPHITHEATER INTO ONE SITE.
WE THINK IT'LL MAKE FOR A MORE ENGAGING FUNCTIONAL SPACE FOR CHILDREN AND VISITORS AND RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
THE OTHER THING IS IT'LL PREVENT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MIXED USE MULTI FAMILY DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE TAMARAC VILLAGE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
IT'LL PROVIDE SOME PROTECTION FOR THE EXISTING.
THEN IT'LL CREATE SOME TRANSITION FROM THE NEW PROJECT ON THE EAST AND THE EXISTING FURTHER TO THE WEST.
THERE'LL BE THIS LARGE OPEN SPACE AREA.
TRUTH IS, AS THE CITY KNOWS, AS MOST CITIES KNOWS, AMPHITHEATERS DON'T GET USED EVERY DAY.
PREDOMINANTLY, THE AMPHITHEATER AND SPLASH PAD WILL BE A PASSIVE RECREATIONAL AREA FOR CITY RESIDENTS.
THEN JUST ANOTHER ONE TO ADD HERE IS THAT THE PRIOR COMMERCIAL PLAN DID HAVE DUMPSTERS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL ON THE WEST, WHICH IS AN UNDESIRABLE CONFIGURATION FOR THOSE RESIDENTS TO HAVE THEIR UNITS BACKING UP TO AN EXISTING DUMPSTER FOR SOME COMMERCIAL USE.
AS I SAID ALREADY, THE RELOCATION WILL BE PERMITTED AND FUNDED AND TAKEN CARE OF, CONSTRUCTED ALTOGETHER BY MY CLIENT.
HERE ARE OUR PRELIMINARY RENDERINGS.
I THINK IT IS OBVIOUS THAT MY CLIENT'S OPEN TO SPEAKING WITH THE COMMISSIONERS INDIVIDUALLY AND WITH YOUR STAFF ABOUT PERHAPS ANYTHING THAT YOU LEARNED FROM THE PRIOR AMPHITHEATER THAT WASN'T SO GREAT THAT YOU MIGHT WANT US TO INCORPORATE, SOMETHING THAT WE PLAN AND EXPECT TO DO, BUT THIS IS OUR FIRST RENDERING.
WHAT YOU SEE IS IT'S INTEGRATED WITH THE SPLASH PAD WHERE YOU ARE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY REUSE A LOT OF THE EXISTING PAVERS ON THE AMPHITHEATER, AND THEN THE AMPHITHEATER BUILDING WOULD BE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, WHICH IS THE SOUTH.
HERE'S ANOTHER RENDERING, SHOWING THAT INTEGRATION, AND IN MY VIEW, I THINK OBJECTIVELY MAKING THIS A MUCH MORE FUNCTIONAL SPACE.
HERE'S ANOTHER RENDERING. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN IS THE EXISTING MULTI FAMILY FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE.
ONE MORE RENDERING. THEN THIS IS FROM THE SOUTH SIDE FROM THE MAJOR ROADWAY THERE.
I HAD A VIDEO, BUT IT'S UNLIKELY IT'S GOING TO PLAY IN THIS SETTING.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, JUST TO REITERATE.
THERE WE GO. [MUSIC] I THINK AT THIS HOUR, I'M GOING TO PASS ON THAT.
WELL, THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO IT THEN. LET'S SEE THE VIDEO.
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[LAUGHTER] WITH THAT BEING SAID, IN SUMMARY, THE EXISTING AMPHITHEATER PARCEL IS 0.57 ACRES, SO A LITTLE BIT OVER A HALF ACRE.THE EXISTING VACANT PARCEL THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE THE NEW LOCATION FOR THE AMPHITHEATER IS A LITTLE BIT OVER THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE, SO IT'S 0.83 ACRES.
IN FACT, THE CITY WILL BE GETTING A LARGER AMPHITHEATER SPACE, BUT ALSO GETTING THIS ALL RELOCATED AS PART OF THE LARGER PROJECT THAT MY CLIENT IS WORKING ON.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HANG TIGHT.
MISS CALLOWAY, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
WE'RE NOW GOING TO OPEN THIS TO PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST.
I'VE GOT HANDS. HERB, COME ON UP.
I'VE GOT KISHA NEXT, AND THEN I'VE GOT JEFFREY.
>> HERBERT STEIN, FAIRFAX COMMUNITY, KINGS POINT.
ONCE AGAIN, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO ASK.
WHY ARE THEY USING PAVERS? PAVERS CREATE A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE DISABILITIES THAT ARE IN WHEELCHAIRS.
IT'S DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE PAVERS.
>> ONCE AGAIN, KISHA LOUIS BOLDEN, CITY OF TAMARAC.
THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, MAYOR, COMMISSIONER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE VISUALS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SIDE BY SIDE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE ACTUAL SURFACE AREA.
ONE WENT RENDERING WAS MORE OVAL, AND THIS IS MORE CIRCULAR, AND SO I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE AESTHETIC AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE VIEW OF ANY PERFORMER.
THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE COMPARING THE TWO SIDE BY SIDE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. JEFFREY SHAPIRO WANTS TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? KATE JOHNSON WILL BE NEXT. ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THEN AFTER KATE JOHNSON, THIS ITEM WILL BE DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS.
>> BY THE WAY, I ENJOYED THE LITTLE VIDEO.
IT HELPED ENHANCE THE POSSIBLE NIGHT LIFE.
>> JEFFREY SHAPIRO, WOODLANDS, TAMARAC.
AS A RESIDENT IN THE CITY, AT FIRST, WHEN YOU STARTED TO SPEAK ABOUT RELOCATING THE AMPHITHEATER FROM ONE PARCEL TO THE OTHER, I WAS THINKING, WELL, HOW'S THAT GOING TO WORK? BUT I CAN SEE THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BROADCAST TO THE NORTH, BUT QUESTION THAT THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR MIGHT HAVE IS, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO FOR THE SOUNDS COMING FROM THE AMPHITHEATER, GOING TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLY GOING TO BE AN ANNOYANCE? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THOSE APARTMENTS ARE RENTALS IN TAMARAC VILLAGE, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY HAS TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A SPLASH PAD.
IF YOU'RE GOING THERE AS A FAMILY IN AN EARLY EVENING EVENT AND HAVING A SPLASH PAD FOR THE KIDS, AND THEN THE ADULTS LISTENING TO THE MUSIC FROM THERE, IT'S ALL IN A CLOSE PROXIMITY WHERE CHILDREN WOULDN'T HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET OR VICE VERSA WITH PARENTS, SO IT MAKES SENSE, BUT JUST OVERALL WITH IT BEING NEXT TO THE BUILDINGS.
AESTHETICALLY, IT LOOKS MUCH NICER THAN THE BUILDING AND A DUMPSTER.
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I TRIED TO READ THE BACKUP MATERIAL AND FIGURE ALL OF THIS OUT, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THE RENDERINGS AND THE EXPLANATION.
WON'T THE AMPHITHEATER BACK UP TO COMMERCIAL? IF IT BACKS UP TO COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL TRAFFIC, NOISE.
HOW IS THEY GOING TO USE THAT AMPHITHEATER TO THE BEST OF ITS ABILITY? NUMBER 2, THE BATHROOMS ARE ON THE BACKSIDE.
NOW YOU HAVE TO GO OUT BY COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.
WE'VE GOT CHILDREN WHO WOULD BE THERE, AND YOU'VE GOT FAMILIES WHO WOULD BE THERE, AND NOW YOU'VE TAKEN THE BATHROOM FROM NEAR THE SPLASH PAD, WHICH IS WHERE IT ACTUALLY MAKES MORE SENSE TO BE BECAUSE CHILDREN GET WET.
THEY NEED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM AND NOW YOU'VE PUT IT ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE BY COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.
I THINK FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT AND A HEALTH STANDPOINT, THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED, GOING TO DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, YOUR LIGHT WAS LIT. DO YOU WISH TO PROCEED?
>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO ANSWER IF IT'S THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FIRM OR THROUGH THE MANAGER TO YOU, MISS CALHOUN, BUT CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THIS AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT?
>> YES. I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.
>> YOU MEAN THE FINANCIAL IMPACT, COMMISSIONER.
>> FISCAL FINANCIAL ECONOMIST.
>> SURE. WE CAN BOTH TALK ABOUT IT.
THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COST IN THIS LAND SWAP IS STRICTLY CALCULATED BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE CITY, AS THE ATTORNEY MENTIONED, THAT WE HAVE TO DO APPRAISALS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE HIGHEST VALUE FOR THE PROPERTIES IN BUYING AND SELLING.
IT WAS BASED ON THE APPRAISED VALUE CALCULATION BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT'S SIMPLE MATH.
WE'RE TAKING ABOUT 12 14,000 SQUARE FEET MORE THAN THE ONE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE GIVEN BACK, AND SO THAT'S A DIFFERENCE, OR THAT'S A REDUCTION IN THE COST OF THE PROPERTY PURCHASE.
>> WHAT IS THE REDUCTION? WHAT IS THE CONTRACT CURRENTLY CALL FOR? IS THIS AN INCREASE IN COST TO THE CITY OR TO THE DEVELOPER? IS THIS A REDUCTION IN COST?
>> SO IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AND CENTS, IT'S A REDUCTION IN THE IN THE PURCHASE CONTRACT PRICE.
BUT PROBABLY, IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COSTLY TO THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE OF THE RELOCATION OR REBUILDING OF THE AMPHITHEATER AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PARK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET.
>> OKAY. IT'S AN INCREASE IN COST OR A DECREASE IN COST.
>> FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S REDUCING THE SALE PRICE BECAUSE WE'RE SELLING THE PROPERTY TO THE DEVELOPER.
>> THE CITY IS MAKING LESS MONEY.
>> WE'RE MAKING LESS MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING A LARGER PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND WE'RE GIVEN A SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR BECAUSE WHILE I SUPPORT SMART DEVELOPMENT, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR ON EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WHAT IS THE EXISTING DEBT SERVICE ON TAMARAC VILLAGE?
>> WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TAKING THESE TWO PARCELS, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE WILL GO TOWARDS THE DEBT SERVICE ON TAMARAC VILLAGE, IS THAT ACCURATE?
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE OTHER OPTION?
>> THE PROCEEDS COMING IN WOULD GO TO GENERAL FUND, AND THAT AT THAT POINT, IT'S THE CITY'S DECISION TO UTILIZE THEM AS THEY SEE FIT.
>> OKAY. WE DID WE DID AN APPRAISAL.
WHAT DID THE LAND COME IN VALUED AT?
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>> MISS CALLOWAY. BY THE WAY, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT $16 MILLION DEBT SERVICE IS FOR THE ENTIRE TAMARAC VILLAGE PROPERTY.
>> INCLUDES THESE PARCELS, BUT ALSO THE REMAINING TAMARAC VILLAGE PARCELS.
WE HAVE DEBT SERVICE AT THE SITE, AND WE'RE GOING TO SELL SOME LAND.
I'M COMING FROM A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE STANDPOINT.
I RECOGNIZE WE WANT TO DEVELOPMENT.
I TOO AGREE THAT WE NEED A PROJECT THERE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS THING FROM A VERY SMART STANDPOINT.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ORIGINALLY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT AT $6.4 MILLION.
>> SIX MILLION FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND.
>> OKAY AND THIS AMENDMENT WILL REDUCE THE PURCHASE PRICE TO 5.966?
>> WITH THE SAVINGS TO THE DEVELOPER OF 483.
WE CALCULATED THAT VALUE BASED ON THE APPRAISAL.
>> DID WE DO AN INVESTMENT VALUE ANALYSIS?
>> IT'S NORMALLY THE HIGHEST INVEST USE, AND IT'S ON VACANT PROPERTY.
>> DID WE DO A HIGH INVEST USE ANALYSIS?
>> WE NORMALLY DO ON THE ZONING BUT IT'S THE PROPERTY IS VACANT.
WE JUST DID VACANT BASED ON THE ZONING.
>> OKAY. WHY DIDN'T WE ASSESS THE INVESTMENT VALUE? FIRST OF ALL, CAN WE JUST SPEAK TO WHAT INVESTMENT VALUE IS VERSUS MARKET VALUE SO THAT THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE?
>> THE INVESTMENT VALUE TYPICALLY IS YOUR HIGHEST AND BEST USE? IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN BE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY, BASED ON ZONING, BASED ON THE HIGHEST DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN BE BUILT.
>> TYPICALLY, INVESTORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING LARGE-SCALE PROJECTS, POTENTIALLY MIXED-USE, GETTING A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING TO ASSEMBLE PARCELS AND LOTS, WOULD TYPICALLY PAY AN INVESTMENT VALUE.
WHY DIDN'T WE ANALYZE INVESTMENT VALUE? WHY DID WE ONLY ANALYZE THIS PROPERTY BASED ON MARKET VALUE? FOR ME, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT THIS IS A CITY PARCEL.
WE ARE CONVEYING THE CITY PARCEL TO A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND DO A PROJECT IN OUR CITY? WE HAVE DEBT SERVICE AT THAT SITE.
I WASN'T ON THE COMMISSION, I DIDN'T VOTE ON TAMARAC VILLAGE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT TAMARAC VILLAGE HAS SOME CHALLENGES.
I'M CONCERNED WITH WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FACT THAT WE ANALYZE THE PARCELS BASED ON MARKET VALUE.
WHY WAS THE INVESTMENT VALUE NOT ANALYZED? SORRY, GO AHEAD.
>> YEAH. FOR THE FIRST CONTRACT, WE DID HIGHEST INVEST AND WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON THERE.
THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE $5 MILLION.
FOR THE SWAP OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAD TO UPDATE THE APPRAISAL BECAUSE THE CODE REQUIRES THAT THE APPRAISAL BE NO MORE THAN 12 MONTHS IN TERMS OF HOW LONG IT WAS DONE.
FOR THE SWAP, WE JUST DID THE VACANT.
BUT FOR THE FIRST CONTRACT THAT WAS ENTERED IN JULY, WE DID A HIGHEST INVEST USE BASED ON WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE AND IT CAME BACK AT FIVE MILLION AND THE DEVELOPER OFFERED AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION UNDER THAT CONTRACT.
>> OKAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INITIAL CONTRACT AND NOW WE'RE COMING PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT.
THIS AMENDMENT NOW HAD ITS OWN SET OF DUE DILIGENCE THAT WAS DONE TO INCLUDE A NEW APPRAISAL. IT DID.
WITH RESPECT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN THIS REQUEST FOR THE COMMISSION TO VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT, AN AMENDED PRICE, MY CONCERN IS WHY WE DID NOT CONSIDER THE INVESTMENT VALUE.
THE REASON WHY IS WHEN I LOOK AT THIS APPRAISAL, FIRST OF ALL, THE APPRAISAL IS OVER FOUR MONTHS OLD.
IT'S OLD. THE APPRAISAL IS OLD AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND IT HERE IN MY BACKUP MATERIAL.
>> YEAH, ONE WAS DONE IN NOVEMBER, AND I THINK ONE WAS DONE IN SEPTEMBER.
>> BUT GIVEN THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN.
ECONOMICALLY, THINGS ARE CHANGING EVERY DAY.
FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT AN APPRAISAL FROM FOUR MONTHS AGO, WE DIDN'T DO HIGHEST INVEST USE.
WE DIDN'T DO AN INVESTMENT VALUE ANALYSIS.
I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE GIVING THE DEVELOPER MONEY BACK.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF RECONSIDER WHERE WE ARE, UNLESS THE DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO GIVE ME THE CITY A COMMUNITY BENEFIT IN THE AMOUNT OF $483,000 SO THAT I CAN GIVE MY RESIDENTS A COUPLE MORE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT REVISING OR AMENDING CONTRACTS BASED ON OLD APPRAISALS NUMBER 1 AND NUMBER 2,
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MARKET VALUE ONLY. THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. GIVEN A LITTLE HISTORY.
THESE GUYS CAME IN FRONT OF US A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND YOU GUYS HAD A 10-STORY BUILDING WITH A OVERPASS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
THAT WAS THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.
>> YES. THEY TOLD US THAT THEY CAN BUILD THIS BUILDING PRESENTATION BASED ON THE EXISTING AMPHITHEATER.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, WASN'T IT? I ASKED THE QUESTION? IS THAT POSSIBLE 'CAUSE I LIVE THERE.
I LOOK UP THERE EVERY DAY, AND I KNEW IT WASN'T POSSIBLE TO BUILD IT.
THEN NOW WE'RE COMING TO MOVE THE AMPHITHEATER.
BUT I WAS NOT AWARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE AMPHITHEATER. I HEARD THIS ON THE STREET.
IT WAS AN EMPLOYEE WHO TOLD ME, OH, THEY'RE GONNA MOVE THE AMPHITHEATER.
NO ONE TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS UP UNTIL I SAW IT COME ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S NOT COOL FOR THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER, NOT KNOWING THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS WERE THINKING.
IN TERMS OF THIS PROPERTY, WHAT WAS PROMISED INITIALLY FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE? WASN'T IT COMMERCIAL? THIS PROPERTY, THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT, THE WHOLE PLAN OF TAMARAC VILLAGE.
I WAS PROMISED THE RESIDENT. WASN'T IT COMMERCIAL?
>> IT A MIXED-USE SET INCLUDED COMMERCIAL, YES.
>> COMMERCIAL AND ALL THAT STUFF IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA, THE VACANT LAND IN THE VACANT AREA.
>> THIS DEVELOPER, I WAS COMING TO SEE THAT THEY WANT TO SWAP THE LAND, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
WE CAN BE GETTING WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT? I THINK WE CHANGED IT A FEW WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT?
>> IT'S PD, SO THERE'S NO MAXIMUM REQUIREMENT.
YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE CAN BUILD 50 STORIES ON THAT LAND YOU'RE SAYING.
>> THERE'S NO MAXIMUM HEIGHT BUT THAT'S NOT COMPATIBLE, SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED.
BUT YOUR CONTRACT DOES INCLUDE PLUS OR -350 UNITS.
>> FOR THEM TO GET THESE UNITS, THEY WANT TO GET THAT LAND AND THEY'RE SAYING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE LAND.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S PRESENTED TO US.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT EXISTS IN AMPHITHEATER THAT THEY CAN BUILD SOMETHING ON THE PROPERTY AND GIVE US COMMERCIAL.
BECAUSE IN THE PRESENTATION, THEY PROMISED US COMMERCIAL THEY SAID IT'S GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL AT THE BOTTOM, YOU'RE GOING TO GET STORES, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL OF THAT STUFF.
>> IN THIS PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE A MIXED-USE PROJECT.
IT'S PLUS OR -350 MULTIFAMILY AND PLUS OR -50,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL.
PEOPLE MAKE THE MONEY IN THE APARTMENT.
THAT PLACE GOES TO VACANT FOREVER.
THE MONEY'S IN APARTMENTS, AND THE HIGHER YOU GO TO MORE MONEY YOU MAKE AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING 2,700 FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A HUGE DEMAND FOR THAT AREA.
THE AMPHITHEATER, GO INTO WHAT DR. DON JOHNSON SAID.
NOW, YOU HAVE ONE OF THE BUSIEST STREETS IN STATE FLORIDA.
I SEE PEOPLE GO THERE EVERY DAY WITH THEIR KIDS, TEACH THEM HOW TO PLAY BALL, KICKING SOCCER AND DOING THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
YOU'RE NOW FACING THEM TO A STREET THAT'S VERY, VERY BUSY, WHEREAS, NOW IT'S ON 57, IT IS NOT AS BUSY.
YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TRAFFIC.
TURNING THE AMPHITHEATER ON THAT BUSY STREET WITH THE BATHROOMS BEHIND THERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO NECESSARILY GOOD FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S FANCY. IT'S NICE.
IF WE CAN DO IT AND RE-ADJUST THE SOCIAL JUSTICE WALL AND INTERTWINED IT TO MAKE IT BIGGER AND BETTER.
I THINK SO, BUT I THINK HAVING IT BY THE STREET IS DANGEROUS AND HAVE THE BATHROOMS ON THE BACK END.
BUT FOR ME, HOW THIS WAS ALL DONE.
COME IN WITH THAT BIG PRESENTATION, PROMISING US THIS, AND NOW CHANGING IT UP.
GOING TO WHAT MY COLLAGE SAY, I SINCE SHE WENT ON SOME IMPORTANT POINTS.
IF YOU ARE COMING TO US, YOU WANT SOMETHING FROM US, WHY SHOULD WE GIVING YOU MONEY? WE HAVE WHAT YOU WANT. IT'S AN INVESTMENT.
IT'S GONNA RETURN A LOT OF MONEY.
WHY SHOULD WE BE GIVING HIM MONEY AND WHY ARE WE USING THE OLD APPRAISAL? THIS IS SOUTH FLORIDA.
MARKET VALUES CHANGE CONSTANTLY.
I'VE BEEN HOUSE SHOPPING. IN ONE WEEK, IT GOES ON 25 GRAND.
IF WE'RE GOING TO USE A OLD APPRAISAL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD LITMUS TEST FOR US TO UTILIZE IN SWAPPING THE PROPERTY.
AGAIN, I THINK WE PUT IT, WE PUT IT BACK UP FOR SOMEONE TO BID.
YOU WANT TO TELL ME IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IN BROWARD COUNTY, WHICH IS IN DEMAND.
ONLY ONE COMPANY CAME IN FRONT OF US.
I REMEMBER VERY WELL AND ONLY THESE GUYS CAME IN FRONT OF US.
IN BROWARD COUNTY, WHERE EVERYONE IN AMERICA WANTS TO GET A PIECE OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
THIS IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT YOU FIND TO COME FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
JUST CHANGING IT BECAUSE THESE GUYS DEMAND IT.
I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THAT BECAUSE INITIALLY, I DIDN'T LIKE HOW EVERYTHING WENT DOWN.
I THINK WE'RE ALREADY ON A CONTRACT, OBVIOUSLY SO THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN REALLY DO, BUT I THINK AT THIS COST THAT WE HAVING TO GIVE THEM BACK MONEY, I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT AT ALL.
I THINK WE CAN GO BACK AND SEE WHAT CHANGES WE CAN MAKE.
>> CITY MANAGER, YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> I DO. MADAM MAYOR, THIS IS NOT A NEW TRANSACTION, AND IT'S A SIMPLE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION.
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HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT IS HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.THAT'S BEEN IN THE BOOKS FOR THE PAST YEAR.
AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
IT JUST MATERIALIZED AT THIS COMMISSION MEETING, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE, AS THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE'RE IN A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION.
THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYBODY ELSE DOING A REAL ESTATE DEAL.
WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY, WE HAVE THE CONTRACTING PARTIES THAT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE GETTING A BETTER PRODUCT.
OUR CODE YOU KNOW, CALLS FOR APPRAISALS BASED ON THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
THE REAL ESTATE MARKET, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT DOESN'T GO UP AND DOWN ON A WEEKLY BASIS, SO WE CAN DEFINITELY ASK FOR A NEW APPRAISAL.
WE CAN DEFINITELY, LOOK FOR A NEW APPRAISAL.
BUT WE DO HAVE COLLAGE REPRESENTATIVES HERE.
WE CAN REACH OUT OF OUR INITIAL CONVERSATION AND ASK FOR THEIR OPINION AS WELL.
BUT THIS IS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND THIS TAMARAC AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS LOOKING TO GET A BETTER PRODUCT.
IN TERMS OF SAFETY FOR THE RESTROOMS, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU AND THE RESIDENT.
BUT NO BUILDING CODE IS GOING TO ALLOW BATHROOM FACILITIES ON MAJOR STREET.
RENDERING IS ONE THING, BUT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO PROVIDE AND COME WITH SAFETY MEASURES TO MAKE SURE, JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THAT THOSE BATHROOMS ARE SAFE AND SECURE FOR ACCESS.
>> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
>> MATTHEW SCOTT FOR THE DEVELOPER.
JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF ITEMS. WHAT I SAID IN MY PRESENTATION WAS WE WOULD LOOK TO MEET WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF ON THE OVERALL DESIGN OF THIS AMPHITHEATER.
IT'S NOT AS IF WE'RE STANDING HERE TODAY SAYING THE BATHROOM'S GOT TO BE THERE OR WE'RE DONE, AND WE'RE LEAVING.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS WAS TO SHOW YOU THE VISION OF HOW THIS MAKES MORE SENSE FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE FOR THIS LAST PIECE.
THE LOCATION OF THE BATHROOMS SHOULD NOT BE A HANGOUT BECAUSE THERE'S SPACE HERE TO DESIGN THAT APPROPRIATELY.
THERE'S SPACE TO ADD LANDSCAPING AND SAFETY FEATURES AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THOSE THINGS.
I ALMOST REGRET ADDING THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WHEN WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS IS WHETHER THE LAND SWAP SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
SIMILARLY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHETHER THE PROJECT IS GOOD, WHETHER THE CITY'S GETTING WHAT THEY WANT, OUR CONTRACT REQUIRES US TO COME TO YOU TO APPROVE IT.
IT COMES TO YOU TO SAY WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT AND VOTE AGAINST IT.
THIS ISN'T AS IF WE'RE CRAMMING THIS THROUGH.
>> I'M SAYING YOU CAME IN FRONT OF US A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH A PRESENTATION WITH A BIG BUILDING, SAYING THAT YOU CAN INTERTWINE IT WITH THE LAND THAT WAS THERE.
>> FAIR. WE'RE NOT PRETENDING OTHERWISE. THERE'S NO WAY TO PRETEND OTHERWISE.
>> I WANT TO SEE THE HOLISTIC VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON THE OTHER SIDE.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE LAND SWAP WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT SHOW ME THE WHOLE VIEW.
IF WE SWAP THE LAND, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET ON THE NEXT SIDE? SHOW ME THE ENTIRETY OF THE THING SINCE YOU'RE PRESENTING THIS.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THE OTHER SIDE? THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M ASKING YOU.
THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAD FROM A FEW MONTHS AGO.
IF YOU DIDN'T COME IN FRONT OF ME A FEW MONTHS AGO WITH YOUR BIG PRESENTATION SO YOU CAN BUILD IT THERE, I WOULD NOT ASK THESE QUESTIONS.
THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING OF YOU FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS.
YOU KNOW WHY I'M GETTING KIND OF ANGRY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HOPING FOR US TO ACTIVATE THAT AREA, TO ACTIVATE THAT AMPHITHEATER, AND I'VE BEEN GETTING NOTHING.
NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT.
THAT'S WHY I'M GETTING A LITTLE FRUSTRATED.
>> IF THIS WHOLE ARRANGEMENT ISN'T ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, OF COURSE, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK FOR NEW DEVELOPERS TO ACTIVATE THAT AREA.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL THAT THAT AREA HASN'T BEEN VERY ACTIVATED.
ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS ARRANGEMENT IS THAT THE EXISTING AMPHITHEATER STAYS WHERE IT IS UNTIL THE OTHER PROJECT IS APPROVED SO THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE SOME SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE, FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, WITHOUT AN AMPHITHEATER.
I THINK THE REASON WHY WE PUT IN THE CONTRACT, AS MAXINE SAID, THAT THERE IS 350 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL IS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE BASELINE COMMITMENTS FOR A MIXED USE PROJECT WHICH THE CITY WANTS THERE.
WE SHOWED SOME HEIGHT INITIALLY
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AND GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM A VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT THAT WAS TOO MUCH HEIGHT.THIS CONSOLIDATED APPROACH THAT WOULD BE ACHIEVED BY THIS LAND SWAP ALLOWS US TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT, BUT AGAIN, FAIR POINT THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> GOOD POINT. YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU WANT TO SWAP THE LAND BECAUSE YOU WOULD BUILD LOWER DENSITY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROMISING ME? OF THOSE 350 UNITS, IF YOU SWAP THE LAND, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD LOWER DENSITY.
AS OPPOSED TO HAVING 12, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SEVEN OR EIGHT.
>> THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
WE'RE STILL TIED TO THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS FOR THE UNIT COUNT AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COMMERCIAL.
>> FOR YOU TO ACHIEVE A LOWER DENSITY, YOU'RE ASKING US TO SWAP THE AMPHITHEATER?
>> NO. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DENSITY AND HEIGHT.
>> LET'S TALK IN LAYMAN'S TERMS. FOR LESS FLOORS.
>> AS OPPOSED TO 12 STORIES TO GIVE US EIGHT STORIES, YOU WANT TO SWAP THE LAND?
>> YES. WE THINK THAT CREATING A CONSOLIDATED SITE WILL HELP US ACHIEVE THAT, WILL HELP US ALLOW FOR STRUCTURED PARKING.
THERE WERE SOME REAL CHALLENGES WITH SITE DESIGNING THAT WITH THE BROKEN UP CONFIGURATION.
THAT'S CORRECT, BUT I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SHARING MORE OF THAT WITH YOU BEFOREHAND.
IT'S FAIR FOR YOU TO SAY, WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> I WAS TOLD YOU WERE COMING WITH A PRESENTATION SHOWING US THAT, SHOWING US BY SWAPPING THE LAND, YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE LESS FLOORS.
I'M JUST COMING HERE, SEEING A PRESENTATION WE'RE SWAPPING LAND, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THIS APPRAISAL ISSUE.
BECAUSE TYPICALLY, THERE ISN'T DISCUSSION WHEN PURCHASING LAND FROM CITIES ABOUT WHETHER THE DEAL IS GOOD ENOUGH.
THAT'S BECAUSE BY STATE LAW, IT HAS TO BE BASED ON AN APPRAISAL, AND THERE ARE STANDARDS FOR THAT APPRAISAL.
TYPICALLY, THAT NUMBER, AS THE CITY MANAGER WAS REFERENCING, IS NOT SUBJECT TO A BACK AND FORTH TYPICAL SELLER-BUYER TRANSACTION.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS GOOD. IF IT WERE, THERE'D BE FREQUENTLY THESE BACK AND FORTH SITUATIONS WHERE CITIES WOULD BE PUT IN TOUGH SPOTS, AND SO WHAT THE STATE LAW REQUIRES IS THAT THERE BE AN APPRAISAL DONE.
IN THE LEAD UP TO THESE NEGOTIATIONS, THE APPRAISAL NEEDS TO GET DONE BEFORE WE CAN WORK OUT THE DEAL AND THEN WORK OUT THE ARRANGEMENT AND THEN COME TO CITY COMMISSION.
FOUR MONTHS, IN MY EXPERIENCE, IN OTHER CITIES DOING PURCHASE OF LAND, IS NOT SOME SUPER SALE APPRAISAL.
I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THAT CONTEXT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OUTSIDE THE NORM OF A FREQUENT EXPERIENCE WHEN PURCHASING LAND FROM CITIES.
>> THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> I DID. JUST WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE APPRAISALS.
THE AGE OF THE APPRAISAL, THAT IN THIS TRANSACTION, IT COULD, IF THE PROPERTY IS APPRAISED HIGHER, IT WOULD MEAN THAT OUR PURCHASE PRICE WOULD GO DOWN EVEN MORE BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING A LARGER PIECE AND GIVING AWAY A SMALLER PIECE.
IN THAT TRANSACTION, WE WOULD, IN FACT, REDUCE THE SALE PRICE EVEN MORE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE PRICES HAVE CHANGED, IF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COSTS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, BUT IF THEY DID, IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE TO OUR ADVANTAGE.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, YOU ASKED WHAT IT MAY LOOK LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE NOT SHARING ANY OF THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE NONE OF THESE ARE READY FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION JUST BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
I HAVE ONE OF THESE IMAGES FROM THE DEVELOPER.
BY THE WAY, THESE GENTLEMEN, THESE DEVELOPERS, THEY WOULD BE INVESTING EIGHT TO $100 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT INTO TAMARAC.
THAT'S THE INVESTMENT MONEY THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN TO TAMARAC.
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WHEN NOBODY ELSE.
WHEN PEOPLE PROVIDED OTHER PROPOSALS, AND WE'VE SEEN THE QUALITY OF THE PROPOSALS.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY ASKING US TO PAY THEM TO BUILD AT THAT PROPERTY.
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN TAMARAC.
PROBABLY ONE OF THE LARGEST INVESTMENTS THAT'S COMING IN IN THE LAST SO MANY YEARS.
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THIS HAS INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TAX BENEFITS, INCOME BENEFITS FOR TAMARAC, REDUCING THE TAX BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT, THIS COMES WITH MAJOR BENEFITS NOT JUST TO THIS AREA TO YOUR DISTRICT, BUT TO THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMARAC, ACTUALLY.
THIS COULD BE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING DOWN TO 7, 8 STORIES, EIGHT STORIES PROBABLY.
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LONG HISTORY OF US TRYING TO DEAL WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND A LOT OF TIME AND PUTTING IT OUT FOR BID.
EU HAS COME BACK TO US. WE HAVE A CONTRACT.
IN THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE MARKET, THIS APPRAISAL IS NOT STALE.
THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON IT ALL THIS TIME, JUST BECAUSE IT COMES TO US A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
I HAPPEN TO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE AMPHITHEATER SWITCHED.
I LIKE HEARING ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW FOR SAFETY FOR PEOPLE WALKING ON THE COBBLESTONES.
I'M GETTING A NOD THAT IT'LL BE LOOKED INTO BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND THAT THINGS, UNLESS RESIDENTS TELL US, WE DON'T SOMETIMES KNOW THAT.
I KNOW FOR HEELS, I DON'T REALLY PARTICULARLY CARE WHEN I'M GOING INTO KINGS POINT.
MY HEEL ALWAYS GET STUCK, SO I SHOULD REALIZE THAT, BUT WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS, THESE ARE GOOD TO KNOW, AND THE CITY IS GOING TO PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS GOING TO THE BATHROOM IN THE STREET.
I THINK THAT WHEN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS SAID, I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED WITH HOW IT CURRENTLY IS.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MORE ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO SIT OUTSIDE.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MORE ROOM FOR DOG RUNNING AROUND WITH THEIR DOGS OUT THERE, AND I DO SEE PEOPLE WITH THEIR DOGS, BUT IT IS DISCONNECTED BECAUSE OF THE STREET IN THE MIDDLE AND GOING TO THE ROUNDABOUT, SO IT IS NOT SAFE RIGHT NOW.
IN MY OPINION, I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE OF THE MONEY HERE, BUT WE'RE ALSO HAVING THE DEVELOPER REBUILD A BRAND NEW FACILITY AND MOVE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO A NEW SPOT THAT'LL MAKE IT SAFER BECAUSE THERE'LL BE DIFFERENT IDEAS IN HERE.
I THINK IT DOES GIVE US THE ABILITY WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING APARTMENTS AND BUSINESSES ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THE ORIGINAL DRAWING THAT CAME TO US WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT, AND IT WAS 12 STORIES HIGH.
THIS TAMARAC VILLAGE HAS BEEN IN PLAY FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS BETWEEN TRYING TO ASSEMBLE THE PROPERTIES, GET THIS GOING, AND THEN CHANGES WITH THIS DESIGN AND THAT DESIGN.
WE'RE FINALLY ON A PIECE WHERE WE MAY BE ACTUALLY GETTING IT DONE.
NOTHING GETS DONE IF IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE FINAL SITE PLANS FOR THIS, THE FINAL SITE PLANS FOR THE BUILDING.
THEN IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, THE CONTRACTS OVER, AND WE START BACK OVER AGAIN.
THERE ARE PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE.
WE STILL HAVE AN AMPHITHEATER.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BETTER DESIGN OF THE AMPHITHEATER.
NO OFFENSE TO THE DESIGN THAT'S UP THERE.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE IT IN AN ARCH AND MAKE IT WHERE IT'S A LITTLE MORE SOUNDPROOF AND MOVING SOME OF THE SOUND AWAY FROM THE HOUSES, THE APARTMENTS TO THE LEFT, AND SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT'LL BE TO THE RIGHT AND THE APARTMENTS THAT'LL BE HIGHER AND THE BUSINESSES OR THE APARTMENTS THAT'LL BE STRAIGHT AHEAD.
THERE'LL BE SOME MORE ABILITY TO PUT SOME LANDSCAPING IN THERE.
AS FOR PEOPLE GOING THERE IN TAMARAC VILLAGE, ANYBODY WHO MOVED TO TAMARAC VILLAGE HAS BEEN EXPECTING THIS TO BE A NIGHT LIFE AREA, NOT UNTIL 4:00 IN THE MORNING, BUT A NIGHT LIFE AREA.
AT LEAST IT'S NOT BEEN PROPOSED FOR THAT JUST YET.
ANYWAY, THAT'S A FUN LITTLE INSIDE JOKE, BUT THE THING IS IT WAS MEANT TO BE WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE OUT THERE GOING TO THE AMPHITHEATER, GOING TO THE SPLASH PAD, GOING TO ENJOY SOME NIGHT LIFE, RUNNING AROUND OUTSIDE, LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING A CUP OF COFFEE IN THE EVENING AND A GOOD PIECE OF CAKE OR ICE CREAM OR WHATEVER, AND JUST SITTING OUTSIDE AND ENJOYING WHAT WE GET THE BENEFIT FOR MOST DAYS OF THE YEAR.
PERSONALLY, I'M FOR THIS SWAP.
I THINK THE FINANCIAL PART OF IT IS A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY.
IT'S GOT A GREAT RATE OF RETURN.
THE FACT THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR THAT WE SEE AT THIS VERY MINUTE, THE FACT IS THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET BACK SOME MONEY, SO TO SPEAK, ON A CLOSING LINE ITEM, YOU'RE SPENDING THE MONEY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SPEND THAT 400 SOMETHING THOUSAND WHEN IT COMES TO REBUILDING ALL OF THIS.
IT'S THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.
ACRE WILL BE WHAT IT IS, AND WHAT IS NOW IS MUCH TOO COMPACT.
YOU HAVE MY OPINION. I AM FOR IT.
I'M FOR WORKING, AND I APPRECIATE THE OFFER FROM EU, AND THROUGH MATT, THE CONTINUED CONVERSATION ON THE DESIGN THAT'LL MAKE IT WHERE IT'LL BE COMFORTABLE, SAFE, AND BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE IT PROPERLY, SAFELY,
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AND IT'LL BE A BETTER USE OF THAT PROPERTY, SO WE CAN BE VERY PROUD OF TAMARAC VILLAGE.>> MADAM MAYOR, YOU TOUCHED ON THIS FOR A SECOND, BUT I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE MORE TIME, THAT THE ACTUAL SALE OF THE PROPERTY, ACTUAL CLOSING OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT UNTIL THIS ENTIRE COMMISSION APPROVES THE FINAL DESIGN.
THEY HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT DESIGN IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY BEFORE THE PROPERTY SALE IS REALIZED.
IT'S STILL A TAMARAC PROPERTY UNTIL IT'S COMPLETELY APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MISS CALLOWAY.
>> COLLIERS DID A STUDY IN TAMARAC VILLAGE, CORRECT?
>> THAT THERE WAS POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL.
THE STUDY WAS DONE DURING THE TIME THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING WHETHER WE SHOULD TAKE THE REPOSITIONING OPTION FROM THE FORMER DEVELOPER OR TERMINATE THE LEASE.
BASED ON COLLIERS' STUDY, WE TERMINATED THE LEASE BECAUSE IT SHOWED THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE COMMERCIAL ON THAT PROPERTY.
>> THAT LEADS ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION, WHAT THE TAMARAC VILLAGE OFFER?
>> THEIR REPOSITION OFFER WAS A TOWNHOUSE PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S 45 OR SO UNITS OR MAYBE MORE.
>> DID THEY OFFER A CAFETERIA AT A SCHOOL, I THINK IT IS? WHO OFFERED THAT?
>> IT STARTED, BUT WHAT WAS FORMALLY BROUGHT TO YOU WAS THE REPOSITIONING OPTION, AND I'M REFERRING TO IT AS THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE LEASE CALLS IT, THAT THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER BUILD COMMERCIAL OR REPOSITION TO MULTIFAMILY, AND THAT WAS FORMALLY BROUGHT TO YOU AND WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU WAS MULTIFAMILY TOWARDS THE END. YES.
>> THEY OFFERED HOW MUCH MONEY FOR THE LAND? IT WAS STILL UNDER THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
IT WAS JUST A BUILD MORE MULTIFAMILY, AND THIS COMMISSION DECIDED NOT TO ACCEPT THAT OFFER, INSTEAD TERMINATED THE LEASE WITH JKM.
>> WE WOULD CONTINUE UNDER THAT LEASE AGREEMENT, AND THE LEASE AGREEMENT WAS LIKE $1 PER YEAR?
>> NO. THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAYING, I THINK, 100,000 ANNUAL EVERY THREE MONTHS OR SOMETHING, CHRISTINE?
>> IT WOULD ADD ANOTHER $250,000 OR SO A YEAR FOR THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL.
>> ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED, YEAH, THAT ARRANGEMENT CHANGES.
>> ON THE SLIDE PLAN, I SAW THE SPLASH PAD.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE? IS THAT THE SPLASH PAD OR THE SOCIAL JUSTICE WALL?
>> WHY DO WE NEED TO PUT THE BATHROOMS AT COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD? IS THAT NEGOTIABLE?
>> ABSOLUTELY. THAT HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED AS THE APPLICANT OR THE ATTORNEY STATED.
IT WOULD STILL NEED TO GO TO DRC AND THEN COME BEFORE THIS BODY FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
>> JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE RESIDENTS WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENT, THIS IS NOT SITE PLAN.
WE'RE NOT PUTTING A BATHROOM ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.
THIS IS CONCEPTUAL, SO IF WE WANT TO READ OUR BACKUPS, WE CAN.
THE LAST CITY COMMISSION MEETING THAT THIS DEVELOPER CAME BEFORE US, TELL US THE HEIGHT THAT THEY PROPOSED.
>> AT THE TIME, I THINK IT WAS 12 STORYES.
>> HAS THERE BEEN A CONVERSATION ABOUT REDUCING THE HEIGHT?
THE DEVELOPERS ALREADY MET WITH STAFF, AND AS THE ATTORNEY HAS STATED, THIS WOULD ENABLE THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES WOULD BE CONTIGUOUS, ENABLE THE DEVELOPER TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT SIGNIFICANTLY.
>> BECAUSE ON THE LAST OCCASION I WAS AGAINST THIS BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT.
IF THAT IS A POINT OF CONTENTION STILL, THEN MY POSITION WOULD STILL BE A NO.
THERE ARE TALKS TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING?
>> YES. THIS SWAP WOULD ENABLE THAT, YES.
>> MY COMMENTARY FROM THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING IS THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, IT IS NOT IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA, CORRECT?
>> NOT AT 12 STORY, IT WAS NOT.
>> IF IT WAS NOT, WHY DID YOU ENTERTAIN THE ITEM COMING FORWARD?
>> THE ITEM DID NOT COME FORWARD.
THAT WAS A PART OF THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT.
A SITE PLAN HAS NOT YET BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU.
THAT DISCUSSION HAPPENED AS A PART OF THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT, AND YOUR CONTRACT DOES NOT INCLUDE A HEIGHT.
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>> THANK YOU FOR PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE WITH ME THERE BECAUSE 350 UNITS IS NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD 350 UNITS.
IT JUST MEANS THEY CAN BUILD 0-350 UNITS.
>> THIS COMMISSION CONTROLS THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THEY BUILD, FOR INSTANCE, ANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR AT SLIDE MAP?
>> WE CAN SAY TO THEM, WE WANTED TO BUILD 10 UNITS, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO.
WELL, THEY PROBABLY WOULD SAY NO, BUT WE COULD, THEORETICALLY, TELL THEM, WE WANT TO BUILD 10 UNITS.
>> YOU'VE ALREADY AGREED UP TO NUMBER OF UNITS, AND SO YOU WOULD WANT TO ENTERTAIN WHATEVER DESIGN THEY BRING FORWARD DURING SITE PLAN, BUT CERTAINLY YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION NOT TO APPROVE THEIR SITE PLAN.
>> I'M NOT TYING MY HANDS TONIGHT, I CAN STILL SAY NO AT SITE PLAN.
>> SURE, THIS COMMISSION HAS DONE THAT IN THE PAST. YES.
>> THE APPROVAL THE APPRAISAL OF THE LAND.
TELL US ABOUT THAT IN THE PREVIOUS SALE AGREEMENT.
>> WE DID AN APPRAISAL BACK IN 2024.
WHEN THIS ITEM CAME TO YOU, IT WAS APPRAISED FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THE COMMISSION NEGOTIATED A SALE PRICE IN EXCESS OF THE APPRAISED VALUE AT SIX MILLION, LET ME PUT MY GLASSES BACK ON, 6,450,000.
THEN TO ENABLE THE SWAP, WE DID A SEPARATE APPRAISAL FOR EACH PROPERTY, ONE PROPERTY AT 36,000 001 SQUARE FEET THAT APPRAISED AT 1.440.
THEN THE PROPERTY THE 24,633, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE ACQUIRING AS A PART OF THIS SWAP, APPRAISED AT 936,000.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID NOT LIKE AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING AS WELL WAS THE BUILDING HAVING AN OVERPASS, I JUST FELT LIKE YOU COULD HAVE DISPLACED CITIZENS LIVING UNDER THE BRIDGE, AND THAT BRINGS BACK MEMORIES BECAUSE I WAS ONCE HOMELESS LIVING UNDER A BRIDGE.
NOW THAT YOU'RE MOVING THE AMPHITHEATER TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAND, TELL US WHY THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THIS DEVELOPER.
>> IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BUILD SOMETHING YOU UNIQUE ON ONE CONTIGUOUS PART PARCEL.
THEY WILL NO LONGER BE SEPARATED BY A STREET.
OF COURSE, AS YOU HAVE MENTIONED, THERE WILL NOT BE A BRIDGE TO CONNECT THE DEVELOPMENT, AND NOW THE PROPERTIES WOULD BE CONTIGUOUS, AND THEY'D BE ABLE TO DO MORE AS STATED BY THEIR ATTORNEY.
>> AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, OUR HANDS ARE NOT TIED TO VOTING YES ON A SITE PLAN.
>> THIS IS JUST THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO FACILITATE THE SWAP.
>> WITH THAT SAID, I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT.
I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE AREA.
I THINK THAT I'VE LIVED THROUGH EIGHT YEARS OF BEING ON THIS COMMISSION AND SEEING WHAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH TAMARAC VILLAGE AND THEN WOULD HAVE HAD TO START OVER IF WE SAY NO TONIGHT, I JUST COULD NOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, DO THAT.
HOPEFULLY, WE ARE ABLE TO PASS THIS TONIGHT, LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN FOR THE AMPHITHEATER BECAUSE I STILL HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH HOW IT IS, THE ELECTRICAL, MAYBE PUTTING SOUND AND THAT STUFF.
ONE RIGHT NOW DOES NOT HAVE THAT SO I THINK THIS IS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES.
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT FOR THOSE REASONS, AND HOPEFULLY, IF IT COMES BACK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE OTHER ISSUES THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> SEEING THERE ARE NO OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. VICE MAYOR DANIEL.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
>> THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW MOVING TO ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING.
[5.a TO2585 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, adopting the First (1st) Budget Amendment to the City of Tamarac operating budget, revenues and expenditures, the capital budget, and the financial policies for the Fiscal Year 2025, by increasing the total revenues and expenditures by a total of $2,895,924 as detailed in Attachment “A” attached hereto and summarized in Attachment “B” attached hereto and incorporated herein; providing that the 1st Amendment is being adopted in the same manner as the original budget and serves as the new adopted budget: providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date. ]
WE ARE AT 5A 202585.[03:25:03]
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.ORDINANCE OF CITY COMMISSIONER CITY OF TAMARAC ADOPTING THE FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
OPERATING BUDGET, REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE, THE CAPITAL BUDGET, THE FINANCIAL POLICY OF FISCAL YEAR 2025, INCREASING THE TOTAL REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE BY A TOTAL OF $2,895,924, AS DETAIL ENTITLEMENT A ATTACHED HERE TWO AS SUMMARIZED ATTACHMENT B.
ATTACHED HERE TWO, INCORPORATED HERE PROVIDING THE FIRST AMENDED IS BEING ADOPTED IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, SERVE AS A NEW ADOPTED BUDGET, PROVIDING A CONFLICT, PROVIDE FOR SALABILITY, PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
CHRISTINE GAJUS, OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
A PRESENTATION OF THE ITEM WAS DELIVERED AT THE STAFF AGENDA REVIEW WORKSHOP ON MONDAY.
UNLESS THERE'S ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION OR ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SEE THAT PRESENTATION AGAIN.
SEEING IT DOES NOT WISH TO COME FORWARD AGAIN, THEN I WILL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WHILE YOU'VE DONE IT TWICE BEFORE, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND LOCATION AGAIN.
>> HERBERT STEIN, FAIRFAX COMMUNITY, KINGS POINT.
MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, MY FELLOW CITIZENS OF TAMARAC.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER PATTERSON FOR HER OUTSTANDING WORK AND HER RESOLUTIONS.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK COMMISSIONER BOLTON, WHO TOOK A FEW MOMENTS WHILE STANDING OUTSIDE TO ANSWER A QUESTION OF MINE PERTAINING TO THE SECOND READING.
YOU FOLKS WILL HAVE TO FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE OF NOT KNOWING CITY POLICIES AND HOW CERTAIN REGULATIONS WORK.
I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE COMMISSION CHANGED THE POLICY THAT THE CITIZENS CAN SPEAK EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER ON THE AGENDA.
WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON, WHEN I QUESTIONED HIM, I SAID, WHAT WERE THE THINKING OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE VOTED TO PUT THE CITIZENS AT THE BACK END OF THE COMMISSION MEETING.
HE GAVE ME A SIMPLE THREE WORD ANSWER.
TRUTHFULLY, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF A SIMPLE ANSWER LIKE THAT.
THEREFORE, I AM TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR THAT SIT ON THIS BOARD TO ONCE AGAIN CONSIDER THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY FIRST BEFORE THEIR OWN PERSONAL NEEDS.
AGAIN, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT YOU FOLKS PUT FORWARD. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAD JEFFREY.
THIS ITEM IS ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
>> JEFFREY SHAPIRO, WOODLANDS TAMARAC.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND YOU OPERATE UNDER A 2025 PHYSICAL YEAR, WHICH MIGHT HAVE STARTED BACK LAST NOVEMBER.
OUR REGULAR YEARS START, OF COURSE, IN JANUARY.
IF I TALK FROM THOSE TYPICAL TERMS OF JANUARY, HERE WE ARE JUST THREE MONTHS INTO 2025.
I'M WONDERING BECAUSE I WAS PRESENT FOR THE ORIGINAL MEETINGS ON THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2025.
HOW DOES THE CITY FIND ITSELF OR IT NEEDS OVER $2.8 MILLION MORE FOR THIS YEAR?
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THAT'S A CONCERN AND A CONCERN FOR THE FUTURE BUDGETS OF THE CITY, HOW WAS IT A MISCALCULATION? COULD BE A NUMBER OF THINGS.BUT SOMETHING ALL RESIDENTS SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IT MIGHT AFFECT OUR YEARLY TAXES AS RESIDENTS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, JEFFREY. CITY MANAGER, YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING? YOU WANT TO PLAY THE VIDEO.
YOU WANT TO PLAY THE PRESENTATION?
>> NO, MADAM MAYOR, BUT IF YOU LIKE, I CAN JUST TAKE A SHOT AT IT THAT IT'S NOT ALL INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.
THIS IS AN ACCOUNTING THROW UP, ACTUALLY, THAT'S CONSIDERING THE INCREASES AND DECREASES IN THE BUDGET, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAY.
IT'S A TYPICAL PROCESS THAT WE DO TWICE A YEAR, ONE THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, ONE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, JUST TO THREW UP OUR ACCOUNTING NUMBERS BASED ON THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN SO FAR.
>> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM ARE CLOSED.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. GO AHEAD.
>> MADAM MAYOR, IN THIS ITEM, DID WE REVERT TO THREE MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK OR DO WE STILL HAVE IT AT FIVE MINUTES?
>> THAT WILL BE 6A, WE WERE IN 5A AT THE MOMENT. WE'RE ON BUDGET.
>> IT'S SO LATE, I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.
>> WE HAD ONE COMMENT FOR 6A AND ONE COMMENT FOR 5A.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO 5A, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO 6A.
>> CORRECT. DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON 5A?
>> MR. SPINE, CONFUSED ME THEN. NO. I'M GOOD.
>> DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR YOU READY FOR CALLING THE ROLL? JUST CURIOUS.
>> CITY MANAGER, ARE ANY OF THOSE AIDES FOR ME? I'M JUST CLARIFYING BECAUSE I GOT ATTACK IN THE MEDIA FOR HIRING.
ARE ANY OF THOSE AIDES FOR ME?
>> THE 170 THAT WE HAVE FOR AIDES FOR HIRING TWO COMMISSION AIDES ON THE BUDGET.
>> NO. YOU ARE CONDUCTING YOUR BUSINESS WITH THE EXISTING CITY STAFF.
WE HAD THE LIAISON PROCESS IN PLACE.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THERE WAS STUFF IN IMMEDIACY IN A AAD AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND IT WAS I WAS JUST REPLACE A LIAISON.
>> THIS CHANGE IS NOT DEDICATED TO ONE COMMISSIONER OR ANOTHER.
THIS IS A CONSENT FROM THE COMMISSION TO CHANGE THE WAY THE BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED SO IT'S JUST FOR ACCOUNTING OF THAT.
BUT IN YOUR CASE, YOU'RE RIGHT YOU'RE WORKING WITH AN EXISTING STAFF MEMBER.
I THINK WE HAD IN THERE FOR THE ADJUSTMENT TO THE WATER METER.
>> THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IN THERE. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT PROCESS GOING.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. AS YOU APPROVED THE PROJECT FOR AUTOMATED METER READING SYSTEM.
THE ACCOUNT WAS SHORT FOR ABOUT $700,000, AND THIS IS AT THAT TIME COMMISSION APPROVED THE ENTIRE $9.2 MILLION.
THIS IS JUST TUNING UP THAT ACCOUNTING.
>> THE OTHER STAFF STUFF, THERE'S NO BUDGETARY IMPACT.
THAT WAS ALL DONE FROM BEFORE.
GOING BACK TO MR. SHAPIRO'S POINT, THE TWO MILLION NUMBER.
THESE ARE THE FUNDS THAT YOU HAVE FOR 9925, IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE TWO MILLION?
>> IT IS, YES. AS I WAS SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT ALL EXPENDITURE.
THIS IS ALSO ACCOUNTING OF THE MONIES THAT ARE COMING IN, WHICH IS 925 AND ANOTHER 300,000 FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT.
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>> I THINK HIS PERCEPTION IS THAT WE'RE SPENDING TWO MILLION MORE AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT THAT 925 IS COMING IN THE MONEY FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT IS 300.
THAT'S MONEY COMING IN AS WELL.
>> THAT'S LIKE 1.2 IN INFLOWS?
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I THINK FROM HIS COMMENT, IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE ADDING TWO MILLION DOLLARS MORE TO THE BUDGET.
JUST WANT FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. PERFECT. THANKS.
>> BASICALLY, THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS IN THIS BUDGET THAT I HAVE NOT APPROVED WHEN I HAVE HAD THEM COME BEFORE US FOR CONSENSUS.
THEREFORE, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE APPROVING THIS BUDGET.
I'M SHARING THIS FOR YOU NOW, SO THERE'S NO SURPRISE, BUT I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS DESPITE MONEY COMING IN FOR THE ALLOCATION ON HOW IT'S SPENT OR ADDITIONAL MONEYS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE GOT SOME EXTRA MONEY WHERE WE DIDN'T EXPECT TO, TO BE PUTTING IT INTO A DIFFERENT AREA TO SPEND IT.
SO THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS IN HERE THAT, AS I JUST SAID, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH AND DO NOT SUPPORT, AND THEREFORE, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT.
SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES THREE TO TWO.
>> THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW GOING TO ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING.
[6.a TO2588 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, amending Chapter 2 of the City's Code of Ordinances, entitled "Administration," by specifically amending Section 2-34 entitled "Comprehensive Procedures for City Commission Meetings" by amending subsection (g) to revise the “Order of Business” relating to “Public Participation,” “Commission Reports,” and to increase the time for speakers to speak during public participation; and for other purposes; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
THIS IS 6A, T02588.CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.
>> ITEM 6A, IN ORDINANCE OF CITY COMMISSIONER CITY OF TAMARAC, AMENDED CHAPTER 2 OF CITY CODE OF ORDINANCE.
ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION BY SPECIFICALLY AMENDED SECTION 2-34, ENTITLED A COMPREHENSIVE PROCEDURE FOR CITY COMMISSION MEETS, BY AMENDING SUBSECTION G TO REVISE OR ORDER BUSINESS RATING OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, COMMISSION REPORTS, AND INCREASE THE TIME FOR SPEAKERS TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR CURABILITY, PROVIDING FOR EFFECT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
CITY ATTORNEY HANS IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AS THIS IS AN ITEM ON SECOND READING.
WE DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION AVAILABLE, AND PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW OPEN.
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M JUST LOOKING AT MY LIST TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE. YES, KATE.
JOHNSON. AM ADS FOR THE RECORD.
>> KATE JOHNSON IN MAINLAND FOUR.
WE HAVE SPOKEN ON THIS OFTEN, SO NOT MUCH NEEDS TO BE SAID.
WHEN COMMISSIONER PATTERSON RECOMMENDED THIS CHANGE, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC OUTCRY WAS ANTICIPATED.
THANKFULLY, THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN LISTENED TO, AND A WRONG HAS BEEN RIGHTED.
THANK YOU TO ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO SPOKE OUT HERE AND AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AS WELL AS BY EMAILS AND SOCIAL MEDIA SUPPORTS.
YOUR VOICES HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE NOT ONLY ON THE BULLYING ISSUE, BUT THIS ISSUE AS WELL. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW UP.
JEFFREY, SORRY, MY APOLOGIES. YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
>> JEFFREY SHAPIRO, WOODLANDS TAMARAC.
I HAD EXPRESSED ON TWO OTHER OCCASIONS MY FEELINGS ON THIS MATTER, AND I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SHOULD BE MOVED TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, PUT BACK, SIMILAR TO WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY.
A MATTER OF FACT, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS WITHIN THE WOODLANDS THAT I SPOKE TO IN THE PAST WEEK THAT I ASKED IF THEY'D COME OUT TO TONIGHT'S MEETING, AND WHEN THEY CHECKED THE AGENDA, THE FIRST THING THEY SAID TO ME WAS, I'M NOT GOING TO COME BECAUSE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS STILL WRITTEN IN TOWARDS THE END.
AND THEY THOUGHT, WELL, THEY DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE A NUMBER OF HOURS JUST WAITING TO SPEAK.
SO THAT'S WHY PROBABLY SOME OF THE OTHER NORMAL REGULARS THAT NORMALLY COME OUT ARE NOT HERE THIS EVENING.
THEY MIGHT BE WATCHING IT FROM THEIR HOMES.
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SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.I HOPE YOU ALL VOTE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. NOW, YOU'RE TESTING TESTING THE RULES HERE OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC ON COMMENTARY.
BUT SINCE YOU HAD A BASIC IN THE LAST ONE, I GUESS WE'RE STRETCHING IT FOR THIS.
>> HERBERT STEIN, FAIRFAX, COMMUNITY, TAMARAC, I DO WANT TO THANK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS BOARD.
BUT YOU DO REALIZE YOU'VE CREATED A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR ME.
WHEN I GET HOME TONIGHT, MY LOVELY BRIDE IS GOING TO GIVE ME HELL FOR KEEPING HER UP SO LATE.
>> THANK YOU. MAYBE TAKE IT FOR A NICE TREAT.
ON THE WAY HOME. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO NOW WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS NOW CLOSED.
DISCUSSION BY THIS COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
>> IT'S FIVE MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK. IS THAT IN THERE?
>> CORRECT. THAT IS CURRENTLY WHAT IS IN THIS DRAFT IS FIVE MINUTES.
>> AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CHANGE IT FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES.
>> AS YOU ARE THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, YOU ARE WELCOME TO MAKE THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT NOW FOR DISCUSSION TO CONTINUE ON THAT IF IT IS ACCEPTED BY COMMISSIONER WHO MADE THE SECOND.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION NOW?
>> YES. TONIGHT IS AN EXAMPLE.
THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT SPOKE ON ONE ITEM.
JUST IMAGINE WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON AT 50 PEOPLE.
ONE DAY, WE MIGHT HAVE 50 PEOPLE TALKING.
WE MIGHT NOT GO. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS ASKING FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE TO HAVING THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION MOVE BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
INSTEAD OF IT BEING AT FIVE MINUTES, IT WOULD BE AT THREE MINUTES.
AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE IN THIS ITEM WOULD BE THAT THE REPORTS WOULD GO FROM THE END BY THE COMMISSION WOULD FOLLOW RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
DO YOU ACCEPT HIS FRIENDLY AMENDMENT?
>> THEN WE'RE CONTINUING ON THE CONVERSATION FOR THAT.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, ARE YOU DONE? COMMISSIONER BOLTON STILL HAS HIS TIME.
WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT THIS ITEM WITH A NEW MOTION IN PLACE.
YOU'RE LOOKING VERY PENSIVE, CITY ATTORNEY.
>> I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE OLD THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND COMMISSION REPORTS IS AFTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM.
>> THAT'S WHAT'S WRITTEN IN HERE, ISN'T IT?
>> UNLESS THERE'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO PUT COMMISSION REPORTS.
>> WHICH THAT WOULD BE MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, BUT I KNOW IT WON'T BE ACCEPTED.
GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
>> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON MADE A POINT THAT SHE WANTED TO GIVE RESIDENTS MORE TIME TO SPEAK.
THIS WAS NOT ABRIDGING THE RIGHTS OF RESIDENTS TO HAVE LESS TIME TO SPEAK OR TO HAVE THEM TALK AT THE END BECAUSE IT WAS A MATTER OF PUNISHMENT.
IT WAS A MATTER OF GIVING EVERYONE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK AT EVERY JUNCTURE OF THE MEETING.
I WONDER IF COMMISSIONER PATTERSON STILL FEELS STRONGLY NOW THAT THIS IS ALL CHANGING TO STILL HAVE RESIDENTS SPEAK AT ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING.
BECAUSE IF THIS IS A MATTER OF TIME AND EFFICIENCY AND RUNNING THE MEETING EXPEDITIOUSLY, HAVING, PEOPLE SPEAK AT FIRST READING IN EVERY MEETING IS HOLDING UP THE MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU STILL FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT HAVING RESIDENTS SPEAK AT FIRST READING OR JUST GOING BACK TO HOW IT WAS.
>> MS BATH CAN SPEAK WHEN SHE'S UP NEXT. GO AHEAD.
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COMMISSIONER BOLTON. ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR TIME?>> PERMISSION TO PAUSE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE AND ASK MY COLLEAGUE A QUESTION THROUGH THE MAYOR, IF THE COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER, PLEASE ALLOW HER THE OPPORTUNITY.
>> COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, DO YOU WISH TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO DO SO?
I THINK THAT THEY SAY NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE, THE PRIMARY THING I RAN ON WAS EFFICIENCY, AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE MADE IT THEIR PERSONAL BUSINESS, WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT THE RESOLUTION THAT I DID TO ENSURE THAT THEY TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO DISPARAGE MY CHARACTER.
WITH THAT SAID, TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER, IF IT IS THE WILL OF THIS BODY TO ONLY SPEAK ONE TIME, I AM ABSOLUTELY OKAY WITH REVERTING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.
THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME TO THIS PODIUM MULTIPLE TIMES.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIESCE TO THE CHANGE, WHICH HAS ONLY BEEN FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A LATER POINT THAT WAS MADE THAT SENIORS DON'T WANT TO COME OUT LATE AT NIGHT.
THAT IS A LATER POINT THAT WAS MADE, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WAS PROPOSED AND WHY IT WAS PROPOSED.
BUT SEEING AS THE PEOPLE THAT COME REGULARLY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AND WENT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND REPORTED UNFAIRLY AND UNCORRECTLY ON WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH TAKING IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHERE IT WAS. THANK YOU.
>> AT LEAST ONE FIFTH OF THE TAMARAC FIVE IS HERE TONIGHT.
HERE'S THE THING. IN HINDSIGHT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S PROPOSAL, IT WAS A GREAT PROPOSAL.
DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHAT WE HAVE IS SOME VINDICTIVE PEOPLE COMING TO GIVE THEIR OPINIONS, STATING THEM AS FACTS DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND WEAPONIZING WHAT THEY SAY DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS AND HOLDING UP THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY FOR HOURS AT A TIME WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WAITING TO PRESENT OR WAITING TO TALK ON ITEMS THAT MAKE SENSE.
WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR PEOPLE'S RANT.
YOU CAN HAVE YOUR HUSBAND SEND AN EMAIL FOR THAT, BUT THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY IS NOT POLITICAL.
THAT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON WAS TRYING TO ACHIEVE, NOT HAVING THE POLITICS OF THESE FINE PEOPLE.
>> THESE FINE PEOPLE COME AND HOLD UP THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY.
IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH WORDS, PUT IT IN AN EMAIL.
BUT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CITY'S BUSINESS IS ABSURD, AND THAT IS DISGUSTING.
THERE IS NO TALKING FROM THE AUDIENCE.
YOU WILL RESPECT THIS CHAMBER.
WE'RE GETTING TO THAT WITCHING HOUR AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO GO.
SO COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU HAD ASKED COMMISSIONER PATTERSON IF SHE WANTED TO REVERT BACK ON THE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING.
>> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE REVERTING TO THE WAY BUSINESS WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY.
IF THERE IS NO FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT TO HAVE NO RESIN TALKING ON FIRST READING LIKE IT WAS BEFORE.
THEN I'M ANNOUNCING MY VOTE TO BE A NO ON THIS.
I WOULD LIKE THAT THERE BE NO COMMENTARY ON FIRST READING AND HAVING COMMENTARY ON SECOND READING.
I'M ASKING FOR THAT FOR THE AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME.
>> BUT STILL KEEPING MOVING COMMISSION REPORTS, CORRECT?
>> WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED THAT.
>> THIS IS ALL IN THE SAME THING.
NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S THE FIRST THREE.
>> BASICALLY, THE NEWEST SEGMENT OF THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT IS THE SECOND ITEM OF NOT HAVING ANY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ON FIRST READING.
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DO YOU ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT?>> BASICALLY, WHERE WE ARE IS STILL AT THE ORIGINAL FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THE FIRST AMENDMENT, WHERE IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION GOES BACK TO THE FRONT THREE MINUTES.
STILL READING ON ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, WE DID NOT DO IN THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE TO CORRECT CITY ATTORNEY.
THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THIS ORDINANCE, AND MOVING COMMISSION REPORTS FROM THE END OF LEGISLATION TO AFTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, BUT BEFORE CONSENT AGENDA IS WHAT'S ON THE TABLE.
>> ATTORNEY, TELL ME WHAT OTHER CHANGES ARE IN THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
>> YOU WANT TO GO OVER IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR HAND?
>> I DON'T HAVE THE ITEM BEFORE ME ATTORNEY.
I COULD TAKE CARE OF BINDER AND GO THROUGH IT.
YEAH. I WILL START FROM THE TOP.
BASICALLY, THE COMMISSION INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BRING BACK PUBLIC PARTICIPATION TO THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA RIGHT AFTER STAFF REPORTS.
AFTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS FIVE MINUTES WITH A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT IS NOW THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
AFTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION COMMISSION REPORTS THE NEXT.
THEN CONSENT AGENDA, FIRST READ OF ORDINANCE, PUBLIC HEARING, AND AS JUDICIAL MATTERS OF LIVES.
THAT'S IT AS RELATING TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS.
>> AGAIN, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS A TIME DURING THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA.
IT NOW MEANS THAT THAT MEANS IF THERE'S AN ITEM ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH, YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AT THE BACK.
YOU'RE SPEAKING WHEN THAT ITEM COMES, FLOWING WITH THE MEETING.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, AS IT IS WRITTEN, SIMPLY SAYS, YOU CAN COME HERE AND TELL US WHATEVER YOU WANT.
BOLTON IS A BULLY, OR YOU CAN SAY, PROSTATE CANCER IS ESSENTIAL.
GO AND GET TESTED. YOU KNOW WHAT? FAMILY MEMBER OF MINE HAD PROSTATE CANCER, SO THOSE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE GREAT.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO WEAPONIZE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT, OR SOMEBODY ELSE LOOKS GOOD BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BULLY SOMEBODY ELSE, IT'S NOT GOING TO FLY.
MY VOTE WILL BE A NO TONIGHT AS AMENDED.
YOU CANNOT HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT, TOO.
GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. PATTERSON.
WE'RE KEEPING IT ATTHREE3 MINUTES.
WE DIDN'T CHANGE IT TO THE FIVE MINUTES.
THAT WAS A DISCUSSION A STRATEGIC MEETING.
I THINK THAT WAS YOUR IDEA, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I THINK WE ALL SAID LET'S KEEP IT AT THREE, KEEP IT AS IS.
YES, PEOPLE COME AND WEAPONIZED, DO WHATEVER I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE JOB.
I THINK YOU'VE PROVEN THAT YOU'RE WINNER.
YOU WON YOUR ELECTION TO OVER 67% OF THE VOTE.
NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THREAT YOU, YOU ALWAYS COME OUT STRONGER.
I NEVER SUPPORTED THIS INITIALLY.
I ALWAYS SAID THAT WE SHOULD KEEP PEOPLE AT THE FRONT OF THE MEETING.
THAT WAS MY VOTE. I NEVER SUPPORTED MOVING TO THE BACK OF THE MEETING.
I THINK IT WAS DR. DANIELS WHO MADE THE COMPROMISE AND SAYS, LET'S DO ONE MEETING AT THE FRONT AND ONE MEETING AT THE BACK THAT WAS SHUT DOWN.
WE COME BACK, AND WE DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ALL BACK AT THE FRONT OF THE MEETING.
I THINK THAT'S A CONSENSUS THAT WE HAVE.
I AGREE, KEEPING IT AT THREE MINUTES IMPROVES EFFICIENCY.
I THINK HAVING IT ON FIRST READING HAS IMPROVED EFFICIENCY.
I COMMEND COMMISSIONER PATTERSON FOR BRINGING THAT.
I COMMEND HER FOR REVISITING THIS AND REALIZING THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE IT BACK TO WHAT IT IS.
I COMMEND ALL OF YOU FOR DOING. I'M GOING TO VOTE WITH IT.
AS IS HOW WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, THREE MINUTES, AS IT IS, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AT THE FRONT OF THE MEETINGS.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU WANTED TO COMMISSION REPORTS TO REBUT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
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YOU DIDN'T ACCEPT MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT LAST TIME, SO WE KEEP THAT AS IS.BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE I THINK IT MAKES IT MORE EFFICIENT.
YOU APOLOGIZE TO THE RESIDENT. YOU TOLD ME MADE A MISTAKE.
THAT WAS VERY COMMENDABLE OF YOU.
I THINK YOU SHOWED SOME DIPLOMACY IN THAT MOMENT.
I THINK YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR THIS TO CONTINUE SHOWING THAT DIPLOMACY, CAUSE I THINK YOU ARE A MAN OF DIPLOMACY, AND YOU ARE A CHAMPION OF THE PEOPLE.
YOU'RE THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSIONER.
I THINK PUTTING IT AT THE FRONT OF THE MEETING DEFINITELY FITS WITHIN THAT MOLE OF YOU BEING THE PEOPLE'S COMMISSIONER. THANKS.
>> I DON'T THINK I HAD ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.
I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.
I'VE SAID A NUMBER OF TIMES, THE SAME THING.
I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE REPORTS SHOULD BE AT THE BACK OF THE MEETING TO INCLUDE PROCLAMATIONS AND EVERYTHING.
WE COULD HAVE SAVED A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIME.
PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN AND SPEAK AND LEAVE.
THAT'S FINE. I DIDN'T GET SUPPORT ON THAT.
AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS FROM A MATTER OF EFFICIENCY, THERE ARE GROWING PAINS.
THE CITY, WHILE WE WANT TO BE THE CITY ON THE MOVE IN A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES, WE DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER OPPORTUNITIES TO CHANGE.
I AM OKAY WITH THE CHANGES AS PROPOSED. THANK YOU.
>> I'M NOT CHANGING MY VOTE FOR MAURI.
I'M CHANGING MY VOTE FOR MR. STEIN.
I'LL DO THIS IN HONOR OF YOU, MR. STEIN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN HERE UNTIL 11:15 AT NIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A NO UNTIL FIVE O'CLOCK TOMORROW MORNING.
IT IS SO VERY DISRESPECTFUL FOR ONE MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION TO INVITE THEIR FRIENDS EVERY MEETING TO COME AND DESTROY THE REPUTATION OF THIS BODY.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD, ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS, AND ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING.
REALLY AND TRULY, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, OH, SPEAK THE TRUTH FROM THE MIC AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T SPEAK INNUENDOS AND LIES, AND THAT SORT OF STUFF.
THEY WILL CORRECT THEM EVERY SINGLE TIME.
BUT WHEN THEIR FRIENDS ARE REBUKING OTHER PEOPLE, I GUARANTEE YOU NOTHING WILL BE SAID.
IT WILL BE LIKE, OH, WHAT THEY SPOKE ABOUT AT THE MIC WAS GOSPEL.
I WILL CALL OUT YOUR HYPOCRISY, WHOEVER THE STONE HITS, BECAUSE THEY HIT ANIMAL, ALWAYS ALAS.
YOU HYPOCRISY WILL ALWAYS BE EXPOSED.
YOU CAN CALL ME THE NEW ELVIN POINT OF ORDER, MADAM MAYOR.
>> I CAN'T WAIT TILL THAT ORDINANCE ON ANTI BULLYING AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF GETS HERE ALREADY BECAUSE I'M GETTING A LITTLE TIRED OF THE WIND.
I THINK THAT I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE DONE SPEAKING ON FIRST READING.
I AM HAPPY TO PUT BACK PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WHERE IT SHOULD BE IN THE BEGINNING, THREE MINUTES, I THINK IS SUFFICIENT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON ALL THE OTHER ITEMS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO STAY HERE, WHICH IS GREAT.
I DO NOT AGREE WITH COMMISSION REPORTS FOR FIVE MINUTES RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
THAT'S 25 MINUTES IF WE ALL TALK FOR FIVE MINUTES.
YOU'LL ALWAYS HE I WON'T GIVE A LONG REPORT AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW WE'RE FOUR MINUTES AND 40 SECONDS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
THEREFORE, FIVE OF US AT 25 MINUTES, BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE LEGISLATION AT HAND, I DON'T THINK IS A GOOD USE OF TIME.
BUT IN THE EFFORT, SINCE I HAVE NOT BEEN SUPPORTED IN MY REQUESTS FOR HAVING THAT CHANGE, I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO MOVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
AS FOR PROCLAMATIONS BEING AT THE END, I DON'T SEE THE PURPOSE OF SOMETHING THAT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES.
WE ONLY HAD ONE TODAY, AND IT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO, IN MY OPINION, THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY IS TO ALSO SHOW THE GOOD WORK OF PEOPLE
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AND THE AWARDS THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED AND WHAT THEY'VE ACHIEVED.I THINK PEOPLE DO LIKE SEEING THAT.
WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY READING IT, LIKE, I HAD A PROCLAMATION, I SIGNED EARLIER.
I GAVE IT TO THE ENTITY, AND IT WASN'T DONE HERE.
THOSE CAN BE DONE BY THE PERSON WISHING TO ASK FOR THOSE PROCLAMATIONS, BUT I WILL SUPPORT MOVING THIS FORWARD AND GETTING THIS DONE.
THIS WILL BE ON SECOND READING.
IF EVER SHE COME BACK AFTER WE SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES US FOR REPORTS, MAYBE THAT'LL COME BACK AND REPORTS WILL BE MOVED.
BUT WE'LL SEE. AT THIS TIME, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR GOMEZ?
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO AS AMENDED.
>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS CURRENT 11:16.
WE USUALLY HAVE A HARD STOP AT 11:30.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 04, 5 ITEMS STILL ON THE AGENDA NOT TO MENTION COMMISSION REPORTS.
AS SUCH CITY COMMISSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME FOR THIS MEETING TO HAVE ALL ITEMS COMPLETED OR ANOTHER TIME CERTAIN?
>> I'VE GOT A SO MOVE BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, BUT I NEED YOU TO.
>> I HAVE A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR, DANIEL.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE CAN NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARING.
>> MAYOR GOMEZ. I STILL NEED TO TAKE A ROLL CALL FOR THAT.
>> SORRY, THAT'S TRUE. MY APOLOGIES TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT?
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES THREE TO TWO.
>> THANK YOU. WE ARE AT 7A, TR 14248.
[7.a TR14248 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida approving the local housing assistance plan (LHAP) as required by the State Housing Initiatives Partnership Program Act, Subsections 420.907-420.9079, Florida Statutes; and rule Chapter 67-37, Florida Administrative Code; authorizing and directing the Mayor to execute any necessary documents and certifications needed by the state; authorizing the submission of the Local Housing Assistance Plan for review and approval by the Florida Housing Finance Corporation (FHFC); authorizing the appropriate City Officials to accept the State of Florida’s State Housing Initiatives Partnership (ship) program budget by accepting the Fiscal Year 2025, 2026, and 2027 allocations of the program funds to be utilized according to the city’s Local Housing Assistance Plan and housing delivery goals chart; that the appropriate City Officials are hereby authorized to appropriate said funds including any and all subsequent budgetary transfers to be in accordance with proper accounting standards; providing for conflict; providing for severability; and providing an effective date.]
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> A RESOLUTION OF CITY COMMISSIONER CITY TAMARAC APPROVING THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE AS REQUIRED A STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM ACT, PURSUANT TO SECTION 420.907 AND RULE CHAPTER 67-37 FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECT THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, CERTIFICATION NEEDS BY THE STATE, AUTHORIZED SUBMISSION A LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIAL ACCEPT THE STATE OF FLORIDA STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM BUDGET, BY ACCEPTING FISCAL YEAR 2025, 2026, 2027 ALLOCATION OF THE PROGRAM FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED, ACCORDING TO THE CITY LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTED PLAN, HOUSING DELIVERY GOALS CHART.
THE APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIAL HEREBY AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATE SAID FUNDS INCLUDE ANY OF SUBSEQUENT BUDGETARY TRANSFER TO BE INCARCERATED PROPER ACCOUNT STANDARDS, FIND FOR CONFLICT, FIND SEPARABILITY, FIND FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL TAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON, AND I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
A PRESENTATION OF THIS ITEM WAS DELIVERED AT THE STAFF AGENDA REVIEW WORKSHOP ON MONDAY.
MS. MAXIE CALLOWAY, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTORS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS ITEM IS NOW OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NOBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
DISCUSSION BY THIS COMMISSION.
SEEING NOBODY LIGHTING THE PANEL UP.
WE'RE GOING TO GO CALL THE ROLE.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
>> EXCELLENT. MOVING DOWN TO OTHER,
[9.a Discussion and Consensus on Next Steps for Tamarac Municipal Complex Development]
WHICH IS A 9A, DISCUSSION AND CONSENSUS ON NEXT STEPS FOR TAMARAC MUNICIPAL COMPLEX DEVELOPMENT.THIS ITEM IS BEING PRESENTED BY BROOKE MOSER AND GERARD YET MING WITH COLLIERS, AND THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. JOIN US.
>> GOOD EVENING. ESTEEM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'M GERARD YET MING WITH COLLIERS.
THIS IS MY COLLEAGUE, BROOKE MOSER.
AS THE REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS CHARGED WITH GUIDING THE PROCESS, OUR AIM TODAY IS TO ENSURE WE'RE ALL ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF
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THE NEXT STEPS IN THE POTENTIAL TAMARAC COMPLEX REDEVELOPMENT.JUST AS A RECAP, WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ARE THE CITY HALL SITE, WHERE WE SIT TODAY AND THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX SITE ON KNOB HILL ROAD.
TOGETHER, THEY COMPRISE JUST OVER 40 ACRES OF LAND.
AS YOU KNOW, TAMARAC FACES SEVERAL CHALLENGES STEMMING FROM THE EXISTING FACILITIES.
WE HAVE OPERATIONAL INEFFICIENCIES DUE TO THE SEPARATION OF SERVICE DELIVERY.
THERE ARE FUNCTIONALLY OBSOLETE BUILDINGS WITH SHORT-TERM DEFICIENCIES.
THERE ARE SOME AGING BUSINESS SYSTEMS THAT ARE NEARING END OF USEFUL LIFE, AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME CODE COMPLIANT UPGRADES THAT ARE NECESSARY.
THESE ALL CONTRIBUTE TO SIGNIFICANT COSTS OF ONGOING OPERATIONS AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
FURTHERMORE, WE SEE THAT THE CITY IS INCURRING AN OPPORTUNITY COST OF POTENTIALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF POSSIBLE REVENUE FROM THE UNDER UTILIZED LAND THAT THESE FACILITIES SIT ON.
THROUGH THE CITY OF TAMARAC, 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WORKSHOPS, AS WELL AS DURING OUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH THE HONORABLE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, WE GAINED VALUABLE INSIGHTS INTO WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES AND CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS AND OF THE CITY.
NOTABLY, A LARGE PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY IDENTIFIED SHOPPING AND ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS AS AN AREA FOR IMPROVEMENT, AND THERE WERE ALSO SOME STRONG COMMENTS ABOUT DESIRE FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS.
WHILE THAT HOUSING WAS DESIRED, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE SENTIMENT WAS THAT IT NEEDED TO COME ALONG WITH SOME RETAIL AND ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS AS WELL.
WE BELIEVE THAT MIXED USE MID RISE REDEVELOPMENT OF BOTH THE CITY HALL SITE, AS WELL AS THE KNOB HILL ROAD SITE COULD DIRECTLY ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES.
THE STRATEGY WOULD BE DESIGNED TO CREATE A NEW COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE BY CONSOLIDATING THE CITY SERVICES INTO A MODERN MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
SOME OF THE FEATURES AND BENEFITS OF THIS WOULD INCLUDE HAVING A ONE STOP SHOP FOR CITY SERVICES.
IT WILL ALSO INVOLVE HYBRID AND COMBINED SPACES THAT WILL IMPROVE EFFICIENCY.
WE ALSO ENVISION PUBLIC SPACES THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY HALL THAT WILL IMPROVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
BUT CRUCIALLY, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD BE STRUCTURED IN SUCH A WAY TO MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC BENEFIT FROM THE CITY'S UNDERLYING LAND ASSETS.
WE THINK THAT BY STRATEGICALLY REDEVELOPING BOTH SITES WITH A MIX OF USES WITH A LIVE WORK PLAY ENVIRONMENT, AS WELL AS A MODERN CITY HALL, WE COULD SEE POTENTIAL INCREASES IN THE OVERALL VIBRANCY OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND CREATE NEW POTENTIAL REVENUE STREAMS THAT THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
I'D LIKE TO REVIEW A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES THE CITY COULD TAKE GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION.
OUR ANALYSIS CONSIDERED SEVERAL KEY ALTERNATIVES, EACH WITH ITS OWN SET OF FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS AND LONG-TERM OUTCOMES FOR TAMARAC.
THE FIRST ALTERNATIVE IS SIMPLY REPAIR THE EXISTING FACILITIES.
THIS WOULD INVOLVE INVESTING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CAPITAL.
BASED ON THE STUDY, IT WOULD BE IN EXCESS OF $100 MILLION TO ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE DEFICIENCIES, AGING SYSTEMS AND NECESSARY CODE UPGRADES.
HOWEVER, THIS OPTION FAILS TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF FUNDAMENTAL UNDERLYING THINGS.
ONE IS THAT THE OPERATIONAL INEFFICIENCIES OF HAVING TO DELIVER SERVICES FROM TWO SITES.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT JUST REPAIRING WHAT WE HAVE NOW DOESN'T GENERATE ANY NEW REVENUE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP SPUR ECONOMIC GROWTH AND TRANSFORM THE CITY.
THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO SELL THE LAND AND BUILD A NEW CITY HALL.
THIS OPTION WOULD INVOLVE SELLING THE CITY HALL AND BILL SITE.
IT'LL GENERATE SOME SALE PROCEEDS, WE ESTIMATED IN EXCESS OF $50 MILLION, AND THESE FUNDS COULD BE USED BY THE CITY TOWARDS BUILDING A NEW MUNICIPAL COMPLEX.
IT'LL ALSO UNLOCK ANYWHERE $7-13 MILLION BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES OF POTENTIAL IMPACT FEES, AND LONG-TERM, MEANING OVER THE NEXT 100 YEARS IN EXCESS OF A BILLION DOLLARS OF INCREASED INCREMENTAL TAXES FROM THE NEW RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES AND MOVE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT APPROACH IS THAT THE CITY BASICALLY GIVES UP CONTROL OF
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THE SITE AND GIVES UP CONTROL OF WHAT WILL GO THERE AND ALSO DOES NOT BENEFIT FROM ANY FUTURE APPRECIATION OF THE LAND, SO THE THIRD ALTERNATIVE AND THE ONE WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND, IS TO LEASE THE LAND AND BUILD NEW.LIKE THE PREVIOUS OPTION, WE ENVISION DEVELOPING A NEW CONSOLIDATED MUNICIPAL COMPLEX THAT INCORPORATES A MIX OF USES.
HOWEVER, INSTEAD OF SELLING THE LAND, THE CITY WOULD ENTER INTO A LONG-TERM GROUND LEASE WITH A PRIVATE DEVELOPER ON BOTH SIDES.
THIS WOULD DEAL SEVERAL ADVANTAGES FOR THE CITY.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU STILL UNLOCK THE IMPACT FEES.
YOU STILL GET THE INCREMENTAL TAX REVENUES FROM NEW RESIDENTS AND FROM NEW BUSINESSES MOVING IN.
YOU WOULD ALSO GET A CONTINUOUS REVENUE STREAM FROM THE GROUND LEASE FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT MOREOVER, THE CITY MAINTAINS LONG-TERM CONTROL OF THE SITE AND BENEFITS FROM THE APPRECIATING VALUE OF THE ASSET, AS WELL AS FROM RECURRING INCOME.
THIS OPTION, I THINK, CAN DIRECTLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE RESIDENTS DESIRES AS IDENTIFIED IN THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENGAGEMENT WORKSHOP, AND IT ALSO WOULD OFFSET THE COST OF A NEW CITY HALL BY THE CONSIDERABLE AND SIGNIFICANT LONG-TERM REVENUES THAT WILL BE GENERATED BY THIS APPROACH.
IN CONCLUSION, WE THINK THE THIRD OPTION PROVIDES THE MOST COMPELLING LONG-TERM BENEFITS TO THE CITY.
IT SHOWS A PROSPEROUS AND VIABLE FUTURE FOR TAMARAC AND A MORE DYNAMIC CIVIC HEART FOR THE CITY.
THE GOAL OF THE LAND LEASE WOULD BE TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW CITY CAMPUS THAT FEATURES MID-RISE BUILDINGS AND A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT, WITH THE INCLUSION OF PUBLIC SPACES THAT ARE INTENDED TO FOSTER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WHAT WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN, THIS COULD COME IN SEVERAL FORMS, AND IT'LL REALLY DEPEND ON THE PROPOSALS THAT WE GET FROM THE DEVELOPERS.
WHAT WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN IS JUST ONE POTENTIAL OUTCOME WHERE YOU HAVE, ON THE NOB HILL SITE, A MIX OF MULTI FAMILY, HOSPITALITY.
YOU PUT A NEW CITY HALL THERE BECAUSE THERE'S MORE LAND THERE.
YOU'D ALSO HAVE A MIX OF RETAIL AND ENTERTAINMENT USES.
ON THE CITY HALL SITE, YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE MULTI FAMILY AS WELL AS RETAIL OFFICE AND ENTERTAINMENT, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO WHAT THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSE AND ALSO THE GUIDANCE THAT WE GET FROM THE SELECTION COMMITTEE AS WE GIVE FEEDBACK TO DEVELOPERS THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THIS APPROACH IS A FORM OF A PUBLIC -PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
THE CITY CONTINUES TO OWN THE LAND AND HAS SOME SAY IN THE DEVELOPMENT, AND IS VERY POPULAR RIGHT NOW AND HAS BEEN USED IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND IS CURRENTLY BEING PURSUED BY A LOT OF SOUTH FLORIDA MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TIMELINE THAT WE PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY AND THAT WE'RE REITERATING HERE, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS COMMISSION CONSENSUS TO PROCEED WITH PREPARING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
THE SUBSEQUENT STEPS WOULD INVOLVE US ASSEMBLING THE OFFERING MATERIALS, APPROACHING POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS, LAUNCHING IT TO A BROADER MARKET, AND THEN THROUGH THE SUMMER, WORKING WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS IN THEIR PREPARATION OF PROPOSALS.
THE INTENT WOULD BE DURING THE THIRD QUARTER, WE WOULD ASSEMBLE THESE PROPOSALS, NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPERS, SELECT THE TOP DEVELOPERS WITH THE INTENT OF HAVING FINAL PROPOSALS AND A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
THE RFP WILL BE DESIGNED TO ATTRACT AS MANY QUALIFIED DEVELOPERS WHO CAN BRING DIVISION TO LIFE.
THEREFORE, RESPECTFULLY, REQUEST A MOTION FOR CONSENSUS FROM THE CITY COMMISSION TO PROCEED WITH THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY. DR. DANIELS, VICE MAYOR.
>> IT'S GETTING LATE. QUESTION. CAN YOU PUT IT BACK TO THE SLIDE WRITTEN IN RED, 109, COSTS TO THE CITY? THAT FIRST PART OF THIS GRAPH, IT SAYS, COST TO THE CITY FOR REPAIR, 130 MILLION.
>> THERE WAS A STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY MY COLLEAGUE AND HE ESTIMATED THE COST OF
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REPAIRING THE EXISTING FACILITIES HERE AND ON NOB HILL ROAD AND THAT TOTALED A 130 MILLION.HE ALSO DID AN ESTIMATE OF A COST TO BUILD A BRAND NEW FACILITY, WHICH WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IN ONE PLACE, AND THE COST OF THAT WAS $109 MILLION.
>> SO WHO'S PAYING THAT? THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT?
>> IN BOTH CASES, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PAY IT, BUT IN THE TWO OTHER SCENARIOS, THERE ARE OFFSETTING INCOME ITEMS THAT WOULD OFFSET THE COST.
>> I WONDER WHAT MONEY WOULD BE VALUED OVER 104 YEARS, BUT ANYWAY, CITY MANAGER, WHERE WOULD THAT 109, 130 MILLION DOLLAR COME FROM?
>> VICE MAYOR, $130 MILLION, WE DON'T HAVE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THAT OPTION.
THE LEASE LAND AND BUILD NEW, THAT $109 MILLION, $110 MILLION, WOULD BE ENTIRELY FUNDED BY THE LEASE REVENUES FROM PRIVATE-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP.
YES, THE CITY WOULD BE OBLIGATED FOR THAT AMOUNT, BUT THE SOURCE FOR THAT FUNDING WOULD BE THE LEASE REVENUES FROM THE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
IT WOULD NOT BE A TAX BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS OF TAMARAC.
>> AT NO POINT WOULD THE RESIDENT OF TAMARAC PAY FOR THIS IF IT'S TO SELL THE LAND OR LEASE THE LAND? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IF WE SELL THE LAND AND MAKE OVER $52 MILLION, THEN WE WOULD BE SHORT ABOUT $60 MILLION.
THAT WOULD BE AN OBLIGATION ON THE TAXPAYERS, BUT IF WE LEASE THE LAND, THEN THE TAXPAYERS WOULD NOT BE BURDENED BY THAT.
BECAUSE LET'S SAY, WE TAKE A MORTGAGE FOR $109 MILLION OVER 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS, THAT WOULD BE PAID THROUGH THE LEASE REVENUES FROM THE ENTIRETY OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AT THE END OF THE 30-YEAR, 40-YEAR MORTGAGE TERM, THE PROPERTY WOULD BE FULLY OWNED BY THE CITY, AND THE NEW CITY HALL WOULD BE PAID THROUGH THOSE LEASE PAYMENTS AND AT NO COST TO THE TAXPAYERS.
>> WE WOULD BE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THE OWNER OF THE CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE, BASICALLY.
WE'RE PAYING A DEVELOPER TO COME AND DEVELOP OUR LAND?
>> WE WOULD NOT BE PAYING A DEVELOPER TO COME, BUT DEVELOPER, WE WOULD HAVE A PARTNERSHIP, WHICH WOULD COME IN AND PAY TO LEASE THE LAND THAT WE OFFER, AND THEN THAT LEASE PAYMENT WOULD BE OUR SOURCE OF PAYMENT FOR THE $109 OVER 30, 35-YEAR MORTGAGE FOR THE NEW BUILDING.
>> NOT LIKE THE LEASE PAYMENT WE HAVE FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE.
>> NOT LIKE THAT. BECAUSE THE BASE LEASE FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE IS ONE DOLLAR A YEAR.
>> WHAT WOULD BE THE BASE LEASE PAYMENT FOR THIS?
>> I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER BACK TO GERARD, BUT I SHOULD JUST SAY THAT THIS MODEL IS BEING UTILIZED IN NUMBER OF CURRENT STATIONS, ONE BEING MARGATE, ONE BEING POMPANO, ONE BEING BOCA.
>> I REMEMBER US VISIT IN ATLANTA, AND I DID LIKE IT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION THEY EXPLAINED.
I REMEMBER LEASING THE LAND, BUT IT WAS THE DEVELOPER WHO OWNED.
BASICALLY, THE CITY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT IN, A SENSE.
>> THE CITY CONTINUES TO OWN THE LAND, BUT THE DEVELOPER BUILDS THE BUILDING, AND OWNS THE BUILDING FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS.
AT THE END OF THOSE 100 YEARS, TYPICALLY THE BUILDING GETS REVERTED BACK TO THE CITY, BUT FOR THE 100 YEARS, THE DEVELOPER OWNS THE BUILDING, BUT NOT THE LAND, AND THEY PAY THE CITY RENT FOR THE LAND.
>> HOW MUCH WOULD THAT RENT BE? IT DEPENDS. WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GO AND GET CONSENTS FROM PEOPLE.
>> BUT HOW MUCH RENT AND WHAT RANGE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE POTENTIAL FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
>> WHAT WE DID IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 600 AND 1.1 BILLION OVER THE COURSE OF 100 YEARS.
WE RECENTLY DID THIS AT TAMARAC.
WE CAME UP WITH THE TOP 3 BIDS, AND THE WINNING BID, THEY'RE PAYING A PERCENTAGE RENT ON ALL OF THE APARTMENTS.
WHEN YOU DO THE MATH AND YOU WORK IT ALL OUT, IT WORKS OUT ABOUT 600.
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IT WORKS OUT TO BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE, ARE PROJECTING HERE, AND THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WE HAVE IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE $600 MILLION AND ONE BILLION, BUT AGAIN, IT DEPENDS.>> ANNUALLY, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? BECAUSE 100 YEARS, I HOPE I'M HERE.
WE MET SOMEBODY WHO WAS 108 OTHER DAY, BUT THE AVERAGE RESIDENT TODAY WHO'S FOOTING THIS BILL, BECAUSE I STILL DON'T SEE THE MONEY, WON'T BE HERE.
>> THE ANNUAL PAYMENT BASED ON THIS ESTIMATE, AS THEY SAY, THERE'S A METHOD TO THE MADNESS HERE.
>> I JUST DON'T WANT US TO BE PAYING THIS 110 MILLION, AND I STILL DON'T HEAR HOW IT'S GOING TO GET PAID.
>> HOW IT'S GOING TO GET PAID IS THAT WE HAVE ALMOST 30 ACRES ON THE NOB HILL SITE, ABOUT 14 ACRES HERE.
WE WOULD BE RENTING THIS PROPERTY TO A DEVELOPER, WHICH WOULD PAY US RENT.
>> BUT WE DON'T MAKE GOOD DEALS, SO WHAT IS THE MONEY LIKE? IS IT GOING TO BALANCE? LEAVE ME ALONE.
ARE WE GOING TO GET A PROFIT? IS IT GOING TO BALANCE? IS IT GOING TO BE EVEN?
>> LISTEN, RIGHT NOW ALL WE CAN DO IS ESTIMATE.
WE KNOW WHAT WE ACHIEVED ON MARGATE.
>> BUT YOU CAN ESTIMATE THIS, BUT YOU'RE NOT ESTIMATING WHAT BILL WE WILL NOT BE FOOTING, BUT YOU'RE ESTIMATING WHAT COULD HAPPEN, BUT YOU'RE NOT ESTIMATING WHAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD PAY US FOR 40 ACRES.
>> MAY I TRY TO JUMP IN WITH SOMETHING IF THAT'S OKAY?
>> TAKING SIMPLE MATH, AND YOU'LL CORRECT ME BECAUSE IT'S MATH.
IF YOU TAKE THE $60 MILLION OVER THE 140 YEARS, YOU GET $5,769 MILLION IN CHANGE.
THAT WOULD BE PER ACRE IF WE'RE DOING IT, ALSO, OVER A 30-ACRE PARCEL.
DO YOU THINK THEORETICALLY WE'D BE ABLE TO GET $192,000 FROM THE TENANTS FOR 30 ACRES EACH YEAR?
>> YEAH. THAT'S THE WAY THE MATH WORKS OUT.
IF YOU'RE ASKING, HOW MUCH IS IT AT THE START OF THE LEASE, IT WORKS AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL RENT COLLECTED.
IN THE CASE MARGATE, THEY ARE PAYING BETWEEN 3 AND 5% OF THE TOTAL RENTS THAT ARE COLLECTED ACROSS 1,000 UNITS.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE RENTAL RATES ARE, AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT END UP BEING PROPOSED.
AT THIS POINT, IT'S REALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO GIVE YOU A VERY PRECISE NUMBER WITHOUT GETTING SPECIFIC PROPOSALS FROM DEVELOPERS.
ONCE WE GET THOSE PROPOSALS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT A MUCH MORE CONCRETE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF WHAT EACH PROPOSAL IS GOING TO GENERATE.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THIS THAT THE BEST WAY FOR US TO FIND OUT WHAT THE ACTUAL MATH WOULD BE, WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS WOULD BE, IS TO FIND OUT WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO PAY.
THE PROCESS FOR THAT IS TO GO THROUGH THIS SOLICITATION PROCESS, JUST LIKE MARGATE, JUST LIKE BOCA, JUST LIKE POMPANO, AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT'S THE ONLY SURE WAY FOR US TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH.
>> BUT CITY MANAGER, IF ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THERE IS AN ANSWER.
JUST LIKE HOW YOU COULD GET THESE ANSWERS, THEY COULD GET THAT ANSWER.
>> IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EACH COMMUNITY.
>> BUT THERE IS A RANGE. HE FOUND A RANGE FOR PROFITS TO SELL US THIS.
>> THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON MARGATE NUMBERS.
>> IT SAYS POTENTIAL, SO WE COULD GET A POTENTIAL ON THAT TOO.
>> THIS IS THE POTENTIAL BASED ON MARGATE NUMBERS.
>> MARGATE GET THE POTENTIAL FOR WHAT THEY WOULD PAY.
HE SAID 3, 5%, BUT 3, 5% OF WHAT? A DOLLAR? 03, 5% OF WHAT? TWO THOUSAND. IT MATTERS.
>> THOSE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON HOW MANY UNITS.
>> I GET WHAT IT'S BASED ON, BUT YOU'RE NOT GIVING ACTUAL NUMBERS OR RANGES OF NUMBERS OR POTENTIAL, LIKE THE WORD THAT IS USED HERE.
TO ME, IT'S ALWAYS THEY WIN AND WE TAKE WHAT THEY GIVE US.
WHAT ARE WE GETTING? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY? ARE WE GOING TO END UP WITH A BILL LIKE WE HAVE NOW?
>> FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING.
WE'RE SAYING WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE MARKET FOR YOU TO GET PROPOSALS FROM DEVELOPERS.
>> BUT I'M SAYING WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO PUT, THIS IS THE POTENTIAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT PRECISE.
THIS IS THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD PAY US ANNUALLY OR MONTHLY TO LEASE THE LAND.
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YOU'RE SAYING 104 YEARS.>> IF YOU WOULD LIKE A DETAILED BREAKDOWN YEAR BY YEAR OF THAT $500 MILLION [OVERLAPPING]
>> ESPECIALLY IF THE YEAR BY YEAR IS GOING TO CHANGE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
>> YES. IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR. IT DOES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THEN YEAH, WE WOULD NEED THAT.
>> WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED THAT.
>> AGAIN, I WON'T BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT UNTIL I GET THE PROPOSALS FROM THE DEVELOPER.
>> BECAUSE I MADE AN ESTIMATE.
>> MAKE AN ESTIMATE ON THAT TOO, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
>> BUT I'M TELLING YOU THE ESTIMATE IS $600 MILLION TO ONE BILLION.
>> OVER 104 YEARS, I PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS IN THE FIRST YEAR?
>> YEAH. BECAUSE THE FIRST YEAR COULD BE $1. WE'VE LEARNED THAT LESSON.
>> IN THE FIRST YEAR, IN THE CASE OF MARGATE, THE BASE RENT IS $100,000, BUT THAT'S DURING DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S DURING DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE, AGAIN, THERE ARE NO UNITS BUILT, BUT THERE'S A BASE RENT, AND THEN THERE'S A PERCENTAGE RENT THAT KICKS IN ONCE THE UNITS ARE COMPLETED.
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE COMPLETE SPREADSHEET WITH US RIGHT NOW, BUT AS THE PROPERTIES LEASE UP, SO AS THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS START GETTING LEASED, YOU START GETTING 3-5% ON THOSE UNITS AS THEY'RE LEASED UP.
ON THE RETAIL, YOU START GETTING A PERCENTAGE RENT ON THOSE UNITS.
AS THEY MAKE MONEY, THE CITY MAKES MONEY AS WELL.
>> THREE TO 5%. THAT'S LESS THAN THAILAND. THREE TO 5%.
JUST SAYING. THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY IS WHAT I'M SAYING FOR THIS BIG BILL.
>> IT WOULD BE ON 1,000 UNITS, AND THE RENTS, AS YOU KNOW, ARE $2,500 A MONTH, SO THAT'S $2.5 MILLION A MONTH.
>> YOUR ESTIMATE IS $2.5 MILLION A MONTH.
>> NO, I'M SAYING IF IF WE BUILD 1,000 UNITS AND EACH UNIT IS $2,500, THAT'S $2.5 MILLION A MONTH IN RENTS.
> IN RENT IF IT'S FULLY OCCUPIED.
>> AND IF YOU BUILD 1,000 UNITS.
WHAT WAS THE SLIDE THAT TOLD US HOW MANY UNITS?
>> THERE'LL BE MORE QUESTIONS.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
>> GO AHEAD AND FINISH THIS ANSWER.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT 1,250 UNITS.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST WHAT WE EXPECT A DEVELOPER WILL PRESENT, [OVERLAPPING] OR WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL PRESENT.
>> PER MONTH. IF IT'S FULLY OCCUPIED AT 2,500, IT'S TWO MILLION PER MONTH?
>> THEN THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE TO PAY A MORTGAGE ON 109-110 MILLION PLUS INTEREST OVER 30 YEARS.
WOULD IT COINCIDE? THAT'S JUST SIMPLE MATH IF YOU'RE BUYING SOMETHING, TO KNOW THE COST.
I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MY COLLEAGUE, DR. DANIELS, THEY DIDN'T MAKE A GOOD DEAL, WE MADE GOOD DEALS.
WE GOT THE NEW EASTSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER WITHOUT COSTING TAXPAYERS ANY MONEY.
WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THE EYESORE.
IT'S A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP THAT'S HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE GOOD DEALS FOR TAMARAC. RANKINGS HAVE COME OUT.
WE'VE BEEN TOP FIVE BY CONSUMER REPORT, AND RECENTLY, MSN SAID WE'RE TOP THREE CITY IN AMERICA, SO WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF OURSELF. ON TO MY POINT.
[LAUGHTER] SUNRISE, THEY BUILT THEIR CITY HALL FOR 73 MILLION STAND-ALONE BUILDING.
IS THIS THE NEW TREND WHERE BOCA, MARGATE, POMPINO, THEY'RE NOW DOING MIXED-USE FOR BUILDING THESE CITY HALLS? IS THAT THE NEW TREND?
>> WE ARE SEEING IT IN A NUMBER OF JURISDICTIONS.
THAT'S WHAT WE SAW IN BOCA, IT'S WHAT WE SAW IN MARGATE IN SOUTH MIAMI.
>> IT IS A NEW TREND TO HAVE THE MIXED-USE LIVE-WORK-PLAY CIVIC CENTER CAMPUSES.
>> WHY IS THAT? IS THAT A WAY TO MITIGATE COSTS AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING THE STAND-ALONE CITY HALLS?
>> YEAH, IT'S A WAY TO MITIGATE COSTS.
IT'S A WAY TO GET THE DEVELOPERS TO CONTRIBUTE, IN A SENSE, TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CIVIC SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
>> I THINK A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ARE WANTING TO CREATE A SENSE OF PLACE FOR THEIR RESIDENTS TO WANT TO LIVE AND WORK AND STAY AFTER WORK AND RAISE THEIR FAMILIES.
>> MARGATE, I WAS READING THIS STUFF ON AN ARTICLE.
IT'S PUBLIC RECORD, SO YOU CAN PROBABLY COMMENT ON IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S PRIVATE.
WHERE ARE THEY IN THAT PROCESS NOW?
>> THEY SELECTED A DEVELOPER, AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING TO NEGOTIATE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO VERY EARLY STAGES.
[OVERLAPPING] FINALIZE THE PLANS AND NEGOTIATE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
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>> GOING TO MY COLLEAGUE'S POINT, HOW WAS THAT DONE? YOU'VE PRESENTED THESE NUMBERS TO US AT THE STAGE WHERE MARGATE IS AT.
>> WELL, THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT THEY ACCEPTED WAS THEIR BASIC PLAN.
NOW THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND FINALIZE THE PLAN OF EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT.
I THINK THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS MAYBE 800 UNITS.
WHAT GETS BUILT MAY BE LESS THAN THAT, SO THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE COST TO THE CITY? HAS THE COST CHANGED OF WHAT IS GOING TO COST THEM IN TERMS OF CAPITAL, OAKLEY?
>> IN MARGATE'S CASE, IT DID NOT INCLUDE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE COST FOR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED?
>> YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE ARE SIMILAR TO MARGATE IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THOSE SIMILAR THINGS.
IN TERMS OF YOUR NUMBERS, YOU SAID 600 MILLION TO 1.1 BILLION.
IF WE COME HALF OF THAT, ABOUT 850, YOU DIVIDE IT BY 104, YOU GET ABOUT EIGHT MILLION, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT.
EIGHT MILLION PER YEAR IN REVENUES TO THE CITY.
DOES THAT INCLUDE TIME, VALUE OF MONEY?
>> NO, THAT'S NOT DISCOUNTED TO PRESENT VALUES, THAT'S NOMINAL VALUES.
>> YOU WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT AND THE NUMBER CAN BE HIGHER?
>> FOR US, IT CAN BE A LITTLE MORE MONEY.
IN TERMS OF THE CITY MANAGER, WHAT HE'S SAYING, WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY CASH OUT OF OUR BANK ACCOUNT TO GO AND BUILD THIS CITY HALL.
WE'RE CREATING AN ARRANGEMENT WHERE WE GIVE THE LAND, AND THE DEVELOPERS WILL BE PAYING US THE MONEY, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT'S THE INTENT. THAT'S A GOOD LEGAL ANSWER.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S THE INTENT, THAT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD PAY US THAT MONEY.
AT THE END OF THE LEASE, WE STILL OWN THE LAND.
WE CAN SEE WHATEVER HAPPENS IN TERMS OF HOWEVER THE LAND WORKS.
>> LOOKING AT YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE CITY HALL, THERE'S A CITY HALL.
WHAT ABOUT A PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX?
>> PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX, A DISTRICT OFFICE FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR A PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCY FOR THAT MATTER, WOULD BE PART OF THE NEW INSTALLATION, NEW CITY HALL PROPERTY.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE ALL UP INTO OUR CITY HALL AND A PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX.
BECAUSE IN MY RESEARCH, I SAW SUNRISE SPENT 73 FOR THEIR CITY HALL AND 35 FOR THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SAY PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
>> IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BSO, [OVERLAPPING]
>> THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BETTER OFFICES AND BETTER VIEW?
>> TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE COST IN TERMS OF COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES AND UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE MORE, BECAUSE MY COLLEAGUE BROUGHT ONE PERSPECTIVE, I'M TRYING TO BRING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, SO WE CAN GET A WHOLE VIEW.
YOU'RE SAYING TO US, IT DOESN'T COST US NOTHING.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TELLING. THAT'S A SELLING POINT THAT THIS WOULD NOT COST THE TAXPAYERS NO MONEY.
WE TAKE NO MONEY OUT OF OUR BANK ACCOUNT.
THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO COME IN, AND THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO LOVE THE DEAL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT THE DEAL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO RENT THE SPACE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US SOME MONEY, AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT MONEY TO BUILD THE CITY HALL?
>> AGAIN, THAT'S THE GOAL OF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, TO TRY AND GET THAT RESULT.
>> AT THIS STAGE IN THE BALL GAME, IF WE SAID, YES, CONSENSUS TONIGHT, THIS IS JUST FOR US TO GO UP TO GET THE PROPOSAL FROM THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS?
>> CORRECT. THE COMMISSION STILL HAS TO VOTE ON THE PROPOSALS WHEN THEY FINALLY COME IN.
>> FOR EXAMPLE, EU INTERNATIONALS HERE, THEY CAN SEND A PROPOSAL AND SAY THEY WANT TO HELP BUILD THE CITY HALL?
>> YEAH, BUT THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND PRESENT THE NUMBERS AND ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS THAT EVERYONE HAS.
>> IN TERMS OF MARGATE PROPOSAL, DO YOU HAVE ANY NAME OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE SENT IN PROPOSALS?
>> BROOKFIELD, THE MICHAELS ORGANIZATION, RELATED GROUP.
THOSE WERE THE TOP THREE PROPOSALS.
>> THOSE ARE THE GUYS IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES.
OBVIOUSLY, SOME OF THOSE GUYS BUILT THE HUDSON YARDS IN NEW YORK.
>> WHY IS FLORIDA SO ATTRACTIVE TO THEM NOW? WHY DO THEY WANT TO GET IN ON THESE DEALS?
>> THESE ARE BIG DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES THAT HAVE A BIG DEVELOPMENT ENGINE.
THEY NEED TO FIND PROJECTS TO BUILD, AND MUNICIPALITIES ARE GREAT PARTNERS FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME IN AND DO ANY CASH OUTLAY TO BUY THE LAND WHEN THEY CAN COME IN AND LEASE THE LAND AND PAY AS THEY GO, SO IT'S ATTRACTIVE FOR A DEVELOPER.
>> THESE ARE MAJOR LEAGUE BIG TIME DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO COME IN AND UTILIZE THEIR MONEY TO DEVELOP, BENEFIT FROM THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF SOUTH FLORIDA?
>> THEY SEE IT AS A WIN-WIN BECAUSE THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP SOMETHING WITH AGAIN, A LIMITED OUTLAY IN TERMS OF ACQUIRING LAND.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE CITY GETS THE BENEFITS OF THE INCREMENTAL REVENUES.
>> THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BE BUILDING A CITY HALL IN SOUTH FLORIDA, YOU'RE SAYING?
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>> I THINK THAT IT IS. IT'S HARDER AND HARDER TO FIND LAND LIKE THIS, CONTIGUOUS PIECES OF LAND, SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF ATTENTION ON IT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET, HOPEFULLY, COMPETITIVE BIDS ON IT.
>> TONIGHT, IF WE SAY YES, WE'LL JUST GET IT TO THE NEXT STEP WHERE WE CAN PUT IT OUT THERE AND PEOPLE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH THEIR BIDS, SHOWING US THE COSTS, WHAT WE HAVE TO SPEND, AND GET INTO FULL FACTS AND ALL THE DETAILS?
>> CORRECT. BECAUSE IT'LL TAKE US REALLY THE GREATER PART OF THE REST OF THE YEAR TO TALK TO ALL OF THESE DEVELOPERS AND GET SOME OF THE ANSWERS, AND GET SOME OF THE DETAILED NUMBERS, AND PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER IN PROJECTIONS IN ORDER TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
THAT RECOMMENDATION PROBABLY WOULDN'T COME UNTIL TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.
>> IN FINAL, SO TONIGHT, WE'RE NOT APPROVING TO SPEND 109 MILLION FOR A CITY HALL.
>> NO, THERE ARE NO COSTS INVOLVED IN MOVING FORWARD FROM THIS POINT UNTIL YOU GET PROPOSALS.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE OTHER THING, MADAM MAYOR.
IN FACT, THE SOLE STATION WOULD NOT INCLUDE A NEW CITY HALL.
WE WOULD NOT ASK THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD THE CITY HALL BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE MODEL THAT WE'RE PURSUING.
WE WOULD ASK FOR THIS MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE INTENTION OF BUILDING THE CITY HALL, SO THAT IT WOULD BE PART OF THE OVERALL CONSIDERATION.
BUT THE CITY WOULD INDIVIDUALLY OR BY ITSELF SOLICIT FOR THE CITY HALL FACILITY AS A SEPARATE PIECE OF CONSTRUCTION, JUST LIKE WHAT MARGATE IS DOING TODAY.
CITY HALL IS NOT PART OF THE MARGATE PROJECT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, THE OVERALL DESIGN IN THE SITE PLAN WOULD INCORPORATE A POTENTIAL CITY HALL, WHICH WE WOULD THEN BUILD.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, NOT JUST IT CREATES THE REVENUE SOURCE FOR PAYING THE MORTGAGE ON THE NEW CITY HALL FACILITY, MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, BUT THIS ALSO BUILDS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF VALUE FOR TAMARAC'S FUTURE TAX REVENUES IN ADDITION TO THE LEASE REVENUES BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THIS BRINGS, IT BUILDS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WEALTH FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY FOR YEARS TO COME.
THAT'S THE BEST PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT EFFORT, ACTUALLY.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON, THEN COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
>> YOU HAVE TO EXCUSE ME. CITY ATTORNEY?
>> NO, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I'M HERE IN MARGATE, WHAT TYPE OF PROCESS THEY UTILIZED? REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OR UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL PROCESS?
>> IT WAS A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
>> WHICH OF YOUR COLLEAGUES WORKED ON THE PROPOSAL TO FIX CITY HALL?
>> KEN GUYETTE. IS HE AVAILABLE? NO.
>> HE MAY BE ON THE PHONE. I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S STILL ON RIGHT NOW.
>> KEN GUYETTE. IS HE ON? NOT KEN CRENSHAW, KEN GUYETTE.
>> I APOLOGIZE. HE WAS ON EARLIER, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S STILL ON RIGHT NOW.
>> DID YOU LOOK AT LEAST AT HIS PROPOSAL?
>> YEAH. WE HAVE A COPY OF IT.
>> YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT. YOU HAVE MULTIPLE COPIES?
BUT YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE THAT.
>> I'LL ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
>> WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AT CITY HALL?
>> NO. WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL PROPOSAL OF THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT REPORT IN FRONT OF US.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT HE TOURED ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AND LOOKED AT ALL OF THE SYSTEMS.
>> YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO GIVE YOU CONSENSUS ON SOMETHING, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU HAVE AT LEAST AN IDEA OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
>> CITY MANAGER? [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'M TRYING TO ASK THE CONSULTANT.
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>> WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF BUILDING SYSTEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADOPTED, THE HVAC SYSTEM, THE ROOFING SYSTEM, THERE WERE SOME STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE SOME OTHER CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUES.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT HAD TO DO WITH ELECTRICAL OR FIRE OR WHAT THE CASE MAY BE, BUT HE HAD DONE A PRETTY COMPLETE REPORT FOR THAT.
>> HOW FAR FROM NOW DO YOU THINK THAT THIS BUILDING WILL FALL DOWN?
>> I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
>> WAS HE QUALIFIED TO ANSWER THAT?
>> HE IS. AGAIN, HE'S ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE.
I'M ON THE LAND AND DEVELOPMENT SIDE, SO THERE ARE REALLY TWO DIFFERENT PRACTICES.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
>> FOR THE RECORD, TONY PALACIOS, BUILDING OFFICIAL. COMMISSIONER?
IN YOUR CAPACITY, YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, AND YOU LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE AND THE SAFETY OF THOSE BUILDINGS?
>> WHAT WE DO NORMALLY IS WHEN THE PLANS COME TO THE CITY, WE LOOK AT THE PLANS, AND THE COUNTY HAS THE BSIP PROGRAM FOR THE 40-YEAR OR WHATEVER AGE OF THE BUILDING, AND THE PROCESSES GETTING AN ENGINEER TO SUBMIT A REPORT FOR HOW THE BUILDING.
>> BUT, FOR INSTANCE, IN SURFSIDE WHEN THE CHAMPLAIN TOWERS FELL, THERE WERE LOTS OF BUILDING OFFICIALS WHO WERE PUT ON THE LINE.
THEY WERE SAYING THAT THESE BUILDINGS WERE SOUND, AND THEY WEREN'T.
BUILDING OFFICIALS, IS THAT PART OF YOUR DUTIES?
>> OUR CODE IS FOR THE ACTUAL BUILDING THEMSELVES.
>> BUT YOU CAN TELL IF A BUILDING IS SOUND OR NOT.
>> WE NORMALLY DO NOT GO OUT ON A BASIS TO DO THE INSPECTIONS OF THE BUILDING AFTER THE BUILDING IS COMPLETED.
IT'S NOT A MAINTENANCE CODE THAT WE DO.
IT'S THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION CODE.
>> IF I WANT TO KNOW IF A BUILDING IS SAFE, WHO DO I GO TO?
>> NORMALLY, YOU WOULD HAVE AN ENGINEER REPORT GIVING YOU HOW SAFE THE BUILDING IS.
>> WHAT IS THE ENGINEER REPORT ON THIS BUILDING?
>> I'M NOT 100% SURE RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE AGE OF THIS BUILDING IS.
>> AS A CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE AGE OF THIS BUILDING AND DON'T HAVE AN ENGINEER REPORT.
>> I HAVE TO DO THE RESEARCH ON IT.
>> COMMISSIONER, FOR THIS BUILDING, AND FOR ANY OTHER CITY FACILITIES, WE DO NOT HAVE A STRUCTURAL REPORT FROM AN ENGINEER TO IDENTIFY THE 40-YEAR INSPECTION OR THE 25-YEAR INSPECTION.
>> HOW WOULD COLLIER HAVE ONE?
>> THEIR OBSERVATION AND THEIR FINDINGS ARE BASED ON INTERVIEWS WITH THE STAFF AND THE INSPECTIONS OF THE LOCATION.
>> THEY MET WITH EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT.
>> INCLUDING BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
>> INCLUDING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
>> THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HOUSES TYPICALLY ENGINEERS?
>> THEN WHICH DEPARTMENT HAS THE ENGINEERS?
>> BUT IT'S NOT THE ENGINEERING STUDY THAT THEY PROVIDED.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOUR DISCIPLINE JUST SAID.
>> NO. THIS REPORT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY, IS NOT AN ENGINEER REPORT.
IT'S A USE AND REMODELING REPORT.
>> I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW THEY CAME UP WITH A $113 MILLION REPAIR BILL, [LAUGHTER] IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ENGINEER REPORT.
THERE'S NO BUILDING DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL THAT CAN TELL US WHEN THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO FALL DOWN AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS BUILDING.
HOW YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH $113 MILLION BILL?
>> I THINK IT'S WRONG TO CALL IT A REPAIR BILL.
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BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE [OVERLAPPING].>> IT'S WHAT IT SAYS. IT'S REPAIR BILL.
[LAUGHTER] THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. GO BACK TO THE SLIDE.
>> I'M ALWAYS RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> IT'S NOT RIGHT TO CALL THE REPAIR BILL.
>> IT IS REPAIR, $113 MILLION.
>> CORRECT. BUT REPAIR [OVERLAPPING] THE ESSENCE OF THAT COST IS TO ACTUALLY REMODEL ALL CITY FACILITIES INTO A MODERN ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD MEET TODAY'S NEEDS FOR STAFF AND OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR CUSTOMERS.
>> GOT IT. YOU'RE REPAIRING FOR MODERN DAY NEEDS, LIKE MAKING IT A TAJ MAHAL.
BUT SHOW US THE REPAIR BILL THAT WOULD BE ECONOMICAL, SAVING TAXPAYERS MONEY, MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, NOT A BILL THAT REBUILDS THIS BUILDING INTO A SMART BUILDING.
NOT, HEY, SIRI, CAN WE GO HOME NOW? NOT THAT.
I WANT THE BILL TO JUST MAKE THIS SOUND AND SAFE. WHAT IS THAT BILL?
>> I THINK WE CAN CALL THE REPAIR BILL ZERO AND NOT EVEN SAY THAT IT WOULD COST ANYTHING.
>> SAY THAT AGAIN, WE COULD DO?
>> I THINK WE CAN CALL THE REPAIR BILL ZERO, NO COST, AND STILL LOOK AT THE MANAGE OF THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE CAN GO FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS WITHOUT HAVING A NEW CITY HALL. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> NO. CITY HALL WOULD HAVE SOME IMMEDIATE NEEDS.
>> IT'S LIKE 5, 6 MILLION DOLLARS JUST FOR THE ROOFING STRUCTURE AND SOME OF THOSE REPAIRS, JUST FOR CITY HALL.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS BUILDING WOULD STAY, GOD FORBID, WE RECEIVE A SOLID HURRICANE COMING THROUGH THIS PART OF THE STATE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A HURRICANE RATED BUILDING.
>> WE ARE IN AN UNSAFE NO RATING BUILDING.
HOW MANY HURRICANES HAVE WE GONE THROUGH IN BROWARD COUNTY? TONY SAVE THE MANAGER. [LAUGHTER]
>> WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT WE DIDN'T [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU SAID IT IS NO RATING AT ALL.
TONY, TELL ME ABOUT THE HURRICANES THAT HAS PASSED THROUGH HERE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
>> WE'VE BEEN LUCKY WE DIDN'T GET HIT BY THE BIG ONE YET.
BUT THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF HURRICANES THAT HAVE COME BY.
>> TELL ME ABOUT THE BIG ONES AND WHAT CATEGORY THEY WERE.
>> THE BIG ONE WAS ANDREW, OBVIOUSLY.
>> THIS BUILDING IS STILL STANDING?
BUT THE REASON THAT WE VACATE THIS BUILDING AND SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN DURING HURRICANES AND AND MOVE TO OTHER FACILITIES IS BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS NOT SAFE.
WE MOVED TO STATION 15 AND OTHER CATEGORY 5 RATED BUILDINGS.
>> FALL IN CONSUMER CONFIDENCE.
PULLBACK IN BUSINESS INVESTMENT.
A NUMBER OF THINGS CAN CAUSE A RECESSION.
A RECESSION IS JUST THREE CONSECUTIVE MONTHS OF NEGATIVE ECONOMIC GROWTH.
>> I ASKED AI BEFORE I ASKED YOU THE QUESTION.
ONE OF THE OUTPUTS THAT I GOT IS UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKET, IS THAT ONE?
>> DO YOU THINK THAT ANNOUNCING TARIFFS AND THROWING THE WORLD IN UPROAR IS NOW MAKING THE MARKETS UNCERTAIN?
>> I'M NOT SURE I'M QUALIFIED TO ANSWER.
[OVERLAPPING] OF COURSE, THERE IS UNCERTAINTY.
>> DID YOU COME UP WITH THIS NUMBER BEFORE THE TARIFFS WERE ANNOUNCED OR AFTER?
>> ALL OF THESE NUMBERS WERE GENERATED BEFORE THE CURRENT TARIFF SITUATION.
>> TO BUILD, THE NEW CITY HALL COULD BE THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT AFTER ALL THESE PASS?
>> COULD BE. VERY WELL BE. IT COULD BE.
WE REALLY DIDN'T FACTOR IN ANY TARIFFS ON RAW MATERIALS.
WE USE, AT THE TIME, PREVAILING CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
>> THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT VALID TODAY BASED ON THE CURRENT MARKET?
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>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALID NUMBERS ARE GIVEN THE BACK-AND-FORTH ON WHAT TARIFFS ARE AND WHAT THEY AREN'T.
>> I'LL TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT I TOLD YOU PRIVATELY.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOUR $113 MILLION NUMBER.
HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO SUPPORT US MOVING FORWARD TO FIND OUT WHAT THIS MIGHT BE AND WHAT THIS MIGHT BECOME.
I'LL ALSO TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING MANY YEARS NOW THAT TAMARAC VILLAGE AND ALL THE DEALS THAT WE MADE SMELLED.
IT SMELLED THEN, IT SMELLED YESTERDAY, AND IT SMELLS RIGHT NOW.
I'LL ALSO TELL YOU WHAT I WHISPERED INTO THE EARS OF HARRIAGE RESSLER BEFORE HE DIED.
IT SMELLS. HE RETIRED THE NEXT DAY.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A REQUEST TO SOLICIT DEVELOPERS TO PROPOSE A POTENTIAL PROJECT.
>> WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED IS THAT THE CITY WOULD RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF ITS LAND LONG-TERM AND LEVERAGE PRIVATE DOLLARS TO DEVELOP A PROJECT.
>> WE'RE ALSO SAYING THAT THERE IS ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN POTENTIAL INCREASE IN TAX REVENUES OVER 104 YEAR PERIOD.
>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE PUBLIC ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE DON'T NEED IT.
I THINK BASED ON THE LINE OF QUESTIONING THAT WE ALL JUST WITNESSED, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE DON'T NEED THIS, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF ENTERTAINING WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND MOVING OUR CITY FORWARD IF THIS IS A SMART OPTION TO DO SO, WE POTENTIALLY ARE SAYING THAT THE COMMISSION, AT SOME POINT, COULD CONSIDER LOWERING THE MILLAGE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT THAT COULD BRING IN A BILLION DOLLARS OVER 104 YEARS.
IS THAT RIGHT, MANAGER? BECAUSE I HEARD YOU PLACE A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON WEALTH OF THE CITY.
>> I OWN A FEW PROPERTIES HERE IN THE CITY, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LOWER TAXES.
I DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE FOR PROPERTY TAXES ALTOGETHER.
I'VE HEARD SOME OF THAT, BUT I WON'T GO THERE.
BUT I DO THINK THAT I CAN SEE THE BENEFITS.
I CAN SEE SOME OF THE CONS, AS WELL.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE HAD FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SOME POOR EXPERIENCES WITH INVESTMENTS.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE VIABILITY AND THE CAPACITY OF THOSE THAT ARE REPRESENTING US IN THIS, AND THIS IS A BIG PROJECT.
IN TERMS OF THE RESUME AND THE EXPERIENCE, YOU GUYS HAVE SAID THAT YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THIS THING TO AN END ZONE, YET.
AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE NOT TAKEN A PROJECT LIKE THIS?
>> WITH A MUNICIPALITY, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW WITH MARGATE, BUT THIS TEAM HAS NOT DONE ONE OF THESE LONG-TERM GROUND LEASES WITH A GOVERNMENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
I HAVE DONE PRIVATE GROUND LEASES IN THE PAST, WHICH HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
DANIA POINT WAS A DEAL THAT I PERSONALLY DID WHERE THEY BUILT 1,000 UNITS WITHIN A MIXED USE COMMUNITY.
I DID THAT DEAL. I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE LAND SPACE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY WITH A MUNICIPALITY.
>> WE HAVE DONE LONG-TERM GROUND LEASES WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, JUST NOT FOR A CITY HALL IN ANOTHER LAND.
>> THANK YOU. SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAD QUESTIONS, WHEN YOU PRESENT A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HERE IS EXPERIENCED IN CONSTRUCTION, NOR ARE THEY COMING PREPARED WITH THE FORTITUDE TO UNDERSTAND PRECISELY WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE PRESENTING.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF THOSE THAT WE REPRESENT.
WITH THAT SAID, COULD YOU TELL ME HOW A DEVELOPER IN A DEAL STRUCTURED,
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THE WAY THAT YOU ALL ARE PROPOSING, HOW DOES A DEVELOPER MAKE THEIR MONEY? IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT COST, I UNDERSTAND THIS.BECAUSE THIS IS A LITTLE COMPLEX IN NATURE.
HOW DOES THE DEVELOPER MAKE MONEY? BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER ISN'T DOING THIS FOR FREE?
>> THAT'S TRUE. BUT THEY STILL GET THE REST OF THE RENTS OF ALL OF THE BUILDING THAT THEY'VE BUILT.
>> THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THESE PLACES ARE RENTED? ARE WE SURE ABOUT THAT ANSWER?
>> THAT'S USUALLY THE WAY IT WORKS.
THEY WILL PUT ALL THE CAPITAL UPFRONT, BUILD THE BUILDINGS, LEASE THEM UP, AND THEN START COLLECTING THE RENTS.
THE GOOD THING FOR A DEVELOPER IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY WILL BE PAYING YOU A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR RENT, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO KEEP A LION SHARE OF IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP 95-97% OF IT.
WITH THAT 97% THE RENT, THEY'LL PAY ALL OF THEIR EXPENSES AND MAKE A PROFIT.
THAT PROFIT IS GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO PAY THEM FOR THE ORIGINAL INVESTMENT IN BUILDING THE PROPERTIES.
>> MAYBE. BUT TYPICALLY, THERE'S A BUILT-IN PROFIT MARGIN.
>> YEAH. THERE'S STILL A BUILT-IN PROFIT MARGIN FOR THE DEVELOPER, NO DOUBT.
>> WHEN YOU GUYS PUT OUT THIS SOLICITATION, WHAT WILL BE IN THE LANGUAGE THAT A, ENSURES THAT IT'S VIABLE DEVELOPER, SOMEONE THAT IS SKILLED, READY, WILLING, AND ABLE THAT HAS THE CAPITAL TO BE ABLE TO DO A PROJECT THIS MAGNITUDE? FURTHER, WHAT TYPE OF CLAWBACKS, AND WHAT TYPE OF PROVISIONS ARE IN PLACE OR WILL BE IN PLACE IN YOUR SOLICITATION TO ENSURE AND PROTECT THE CITY'S INTERESTS?
>> YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT QUALIFICATION PROCESS?
>> YEAH, SURE. IN THE RFP, WE'LL HAVE A LIST OF WHAT THEY'LL NEED TO SUBMIT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THEIR RESUMES.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE DONE OTHER PROJECTS OF THIS MAGNITUDE TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY THEM.
WE WILL ASK FOR THEIR FINANCIALS AND GET THEIR FINANCIAL PROFORMA FOR THIS PROJECT, AND OUR TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO REVIEW ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS ACCURATE AND TRUE AND BE ABLE TO RELAY THAT BACK TO YOU.
>> I'M OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH DOING A SOLICITATION.
FOR ME, AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NO DECISION TO BE MADE OUTSIDE OF AUTHORIZING THE MANAGER TO PUT OUT A PROCUREMENT.
I THINK THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING THAT'S THEORETICAL AT THIS POINT.
IF IT IS THE WILL OF THE STAFF TO SEE WHAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY PRESENTED, WE CAN'T DELIBERATE ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
WITH THAT SAID, I'M FINE WITH REVIEWING WHAT COMES IN.
>> THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, BUT YOUR FIRST QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, IS YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE P3 TYPE OF BUSINESSES.
THE BEST PART OF THIS DEAL FROM A DEVELOPER'S PERSPECTIVE IS THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE $52 MILLION INITIAL CAPITAL OUTLAY TO PURCHASE THE LAND.
THEY WOULD BE LEASING THE LAND SO THAT THAT COULD BE THEIR SEED MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S THE BENEFIT TO THE DEVELOPER IN THIS DEAL.
>> MANAGER, HOW MUCH DID WE PAY TO PAINT THIS BUILDING?
>> MUSTAFA, HOW MUCH WE PAID FOR THE BUILDING? WHAT, 30, 40000?
>> FOR THE RECORD, MUSTAFA ALBASSAM, PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR.
YES. FOR THIS BUILDING, I BELIEVE $46,000 OR SO.
>> DOES THAT INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY CENTER?
>> NO. JUST CITY HALL. DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE BSO.
BSO IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BILL.
BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM IT IS ABOUT JUST OVER $70,000.
>> BETWEEN CITY HALL AND BSO IS JUST OVER $70,000.
>> WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY DESIGNER?
>> I BELIEVE THAT WAS 64,000. AROUND 64.
>> [LAUGHTER] I NEED TO START LEARNING HOW TO PAINT.
>> IT'S NOT JUST PAINTING, IT'S PRESSURE WASHING BEFORE YOU PAINT AND THEN THEY SEAL CODE ALL THE WINDOWS, MAKE SURE THEY ARE SEALED. IT'S COMBINATION.
>> WHEN WAS THAT ON THE AGENDA?
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>> THAT WAS UNDER THE CITY MANAGER APPROVAL.
THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE APPROVAL OF THE PARTY PER OUR CODE.
>> NO. DO SOME MATH. YOU HAVE A CALCULATOR? JUST ADD CITY HALL PLUS BSO PLUS COMMUNITY CENTER AND ANY OTHER BUILDING THAT YOU'RE PAINTING, AND TELL ME THE COST.
>> THERE WERE SEPARATE PROJECTS COMMISSIONER.
>> THAT'S A GAME YOU'RE PLAYING.
>> NO, WE DO HAVE ON A YEARLY ANNUAL BASE, PART OF OUR BUDGET, WE DO HAVE A BUDGET TO PAINT BUILDINGS, AND WE TRY TO DO BETWEEN 1-2 PROJECTS PER YEAR.
>> WHO'S PAINTING THIS BUILDING? WHAT COMPANY?
>> RICH CHASE, I BELIEVE, THE NAME OF THE CONTRACTOR.
>> OKAY. PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR ALL BILLS.
>> I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, WHAT'S THE REQUEST?
>> RECLAIMING MY TIME. PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR ALL BILLS, INVOICES, PERFORMERS, ANY CONTRACTS, ANY CORRESPONDENCES, EVERY EMAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PAINTING OF CITY HALL, BSO, COMMUNITY CENTER, AND EVERY COMMUNITY FACILITY THAT IS BEING PAINTED.
WHERE ARE THE OTHER PARCELS THAT IS IN THIS DEAL? IT'S NOT JUST CITY HALL, RIGHT?
>> THIS IS A MAP OF THE DIFFERENT PARCELS.
>> IN TOTAL, WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE?
>> AT NOB HILL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE BUILT THERE?
>> ON NOB HILL, WE DON'T BECAUSE AGAIN, DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO BUILD.
>> SO THEY COULD COME WITH APARTMENTS.
>> THERE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE APARTMENTS.
>> REMEMBER I ASKED THAT WHEN WE'RE COMING WITH THIS PRESENTATION, WE WOULD ALSO COME WITH SOME IDEAS OF WHAT COULD BE BUILT HERE AND OVER THERE. REMEMBER THAT REQUEST?
>> YEAH. THIS IS WHAT WE LOOKED AT.
>> AGAIN, I REMAIN CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC.
I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO PROPOSE.
HOPEFULLY, THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO TELL RESIDENTS, SHOW RESIDENTS WHAT'S GOING TO COME. I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE VERY CALM OR EASY ON THE EYES, OR YOU HAVE SOME CONTRACTS IN DANIA BEACH AND SOME EXPERIENCE.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT IS COMING NEXT.
REALLY AND TRULY, ASKING TOUGH QUESTIONS SOMETIMES IS A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY, NOT FOR YOUR FRIENDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. WHAT CITIES HAVE LOWERED THEIR TAX BASE ONCE THEY HAVE HAD DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THESE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO MIRAMAR, WENT TO GEORGIA, HAS ANY LOWERED THEIR TAX BASE? YOUR RATE IS LOWER BECAUSE WE'VE DONE ALL THIS.
I'VE NOT SEEN IT, SO LET ME KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THIS BUSINESS.
>> I DIDN'T QUESTION ONE, BUT POTENTIALLY, IF YOU GENERATE 10 ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS, THAT'S ABOUT FOUR MILLS, AND SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MILLAGE.
>> BUT THERE'S NO EXAMPLE OF ANYONE LOWERING
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THEIR TAX RATE BECAUSE THEY DID THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO LET'S NOT LIE.>> NO, BECAUSE PEOPLE THROWING THAT OUT THEY'RE LIKE IT'S A THING.
IT'S NOT TRUE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
INFLATION, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THIS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT. IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
LET'S NOT PUT THAT ON THE TAPE.
I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO SOMEONE IN CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT FOR YEARS. I UNDERSTAND.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO PAY.
YOU'RE PAID FOR YOUR CONSULTANT FOR YOU AND THE LAST TIME YOU CAME TO A WORKSHOP, I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
I WOULD THINK AFTER A MONTH OR SO YOU COULD ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.
WHAT WOULD BE THE POTENTIAL OF US PAYING THIS BILL OR THE DEVELOPER PAYING THIS BILL MONTHLY? WHY THAT CAN'T BE ANSWERED? IF YOU COULD TELL US A POTENTIAL GAIN, HOW COULD YOU TELL US A POTENTIAL GAIN WITHOUT A POTENTIAL COST? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GAIN UNTIL YOU PAY THE COST.
IF YOU'RE A CONSULTANT, MY THING IS, ALMOST EVERY DEVELOPMENT CAME IN FRONT OF ME I VOTED FOR.
I VOTED FOR THE GUYS THAT PRESENTED TODAY.
I'M ALL FOR IT. BUT WHAT I'M NOT FOR IS THE RESIDENTS PAYING THE MONEY.
WHAT I'M NOT FOR IS THE CITY LOSING MONEY.
YOU COULD SELL ME THIS IN THE PIE IN 104 YEARS.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE MAKING TOMORROW, WHAT WE'RE MAKING IN THE FIRST YEAR, WHAT WE'RE MAKING IN THE SECOND YEAR.
WHAT'S THE POTENTIAL? I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALL IN ESTIMATE, BUT YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME THAT.
I'M NOT EAGER TO JUST GET A NEW CITY HALL TO MAKE MY NAME LOOK GOOD.
>> CITY MANAGER AND VICE MAYOR, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE CAN'T TELL YOU THOSE THINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEM.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT IS FOR US [OVERLAPPING].
>> I HEAR YOU, BUT IN THIS SAME THING, YOU COULD HAVE ANSWERED THESE SAME QUESTIONS.
>> THEN HOW ARE YOU GIVING AN ESTIMATE? THE SAME ESTIMATE YOU COULD GIVE FOR THE COST THAT YOU WANT THE DEVELOPER TO PAY.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS NOT FOR US, IT'S FOR THEM.
I FEEL LIKE IF I WAS SELLING PROPERTY TODAY, IF I OWN 40 ACRES OF LAND, YOU BET, BELIEVE, I KNOW HOW MUCH I'M LEASING IT FOR.
I KNOW IN MY HEAD WHAT I WANT, I MIGHT NOT GET IT.
I KNOW WHAT I'LL LEASE IT FOR.
I KNOW WHAT I WILL SELL IT FOR.
>> THIS IS NOT A PERMISSION TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
>> I KNOW, BUT WE NEEDED THE ESTIMATE WITH ALL OF THAT.
IT'S ONE SIDED. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
>> CITY MANAGER, GO AHEAD AND FINISH.
>> NO. I THINK WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER, AND I UNDERSTAND VICE MAYOR'S CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS.
I THINK THE BEST ANSWERS WOULD COME IN IF THERE'S AN INTEREST IN THIS DEVELOPMENT BY THE DEVELOPERS, AND THE ONLY WAY TO FIND OUT IS TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND SEE WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO BID ON OUR PRODUCT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
>> BASICALLY, AT THIS POINT, IT'S VERY HARD. WE HAVE IDEAS.
WE ASK FOR IDEAS FROM YOU, WE ASK FOR YOU TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO US SO WE CAN KNOW IF IT'S EVEN WISE TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS.
SOMETIMES WE GET EXCITED BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW THOSE NEXT STEPS NOW.
FROM WHAT I HEAR, YOU CAN'T GIVE US ALL THOSE NEXT STEPS.
YOU'RE GIVING US PRELIMINARIES BASED ON MARGATE.
YOU'RE GIVING US SOME INFORMATION BASED ON MIRAMAR, YOU'RE GIVING US SOME INFORMATION BASED ON SOME OTHER CLIENTS THAT YOU HAVE, DANIA POINT. WHICH IS GREAT.
FINE. THE BASIC ASK FOR US TONIGHT IS TO TAKE A CHANCE IN LETTING YOU GO ASK OTHER PEOPLE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN REDEVELOPMENT OF TWO OF THE CITY'S PROPERTIES FOR COMMERCIAL MIXED USE, RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE.
LEAVING SPACE, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, FOR ONE BIG CITY BUILDING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DESIRING, IS TO PUT EVERYTHING UNDER ONE ROOF, CORRECT?
>> CITY MANAGER, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> MIRAMAR WAS AHEAD OF ITS TIME BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY TOOK DOWN A LOT OF WHAT IT IS, RECREATED, AND DID A WHOLE BIG CAMPUS, AND NOW IT'S REDOING THEIR CITY HALL.
WHEN WE DID COLONY WEST, WE WERE A LITTLE AHEAD OF OUR TIME.
EVERYTHING BEGETS, WHAT WE CALL IT IN MY HOUSE.
WHEN YOU TAKE OUT THAT TOILET, ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU'RE TAKING OUT THE TILE, AND NOW YOU'RE REDOING THE SHOWER, AND YOU'RE REDOING THIS, AND YOU REDOING THAT.
WE WANTED TO REDO COLONY WEST.
IF WE DID THIS AND THIS, IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR 25 YEARS.
BUT IF WE PUT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, WE TOOK IT DOWN TO THE STUDS, WE NOW HAVE IT FOR 60 YEARS.
WE HAVE NO HURRICANE WINDOWS HERE.
WE HAVE NO HURRICANE WINDOWS YET AT EITHER OF THE BUILDINGS, THE PARK AND REC, IT AND PUBLIC SERVICE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> AND BUILDING. THE ONLY ONE THAT IS A FORCE OF NATURE TO BE RECON WITH WOULD BE
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OUR FIRE STATION 15 AND MAYBE NOW 78 AND 36, CORRECT?>> CORRECT. IT BUILDING IS ALSO CAT 5.
>> THE WHOLE BUILDING OR JUST A PART THAT COVERS UP SECTION?
>> THEY GOT LUCKY BECAUSE THEY HAVE IT THERE AT THE PLACE.
>> BUT THE FACT IS, WE HAVE AN ELEVATOR THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE TO DO.
WE HAVE BLINDS THAT MAYBE SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE WHEN THEY COME TO SIT AT A COMMISSION MEETING.
I DO, JUST, IN SOME RESPECTS, BUT THE THING IS, IF WE DON'T TAKE A CHANCE TO EVEN LOOK INTO IT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE JUST SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE TAXES IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE NEW ROOFS IN THE NEW ACS AND FIX THE RUST THAT'S OVER HERE AND HOPE AND PRAY AGAIN FOR THIS HURRICANE SEASON, THE NEXT 10 HURRICANE SEASONS THAT WE DON'T GET WIPED OUT.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE DO IT. PLUS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT ARE WE GOING TO BE FINED AND SENT TO THE MAGISTRATE FOR OUR FAILURES TO REDO OUR BUILDINGS TO CODE? WHEN WE'RE DOING IT TO OUR RESIDENTS AND TO OUR BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT, WE DON'T THROW STONES UNLESS WE'RE READY TO GET THEM BACK AT US.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT FIXING OUR HOUSE.
BOTH OUR HOUSES ARE NOT IN FULL REPAIR.
I AM VERY EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT THE POTENTIAL COULD BE, KNOWING THAT IT MAY NOT WORK OUT, BUT IF WE DON'T TRY AND WE DON'T GET THE INFORMATION, THEN WE'LL NEVER KNOW.
THEN, ACTUALLY, WE'LL HAVE KICKED THIS CAN DOWN FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.
THAT BILL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN $70 MILLION FOUR YEARS AGO IS NOW AT THE WHAT, THE $109 MILLION.
WHO KNOWS WHAT IT'LL BE IF WE WAIT ANOTHER FOUR YEARS? NOTHING'S GETTING CHEAPER.
I'D BE CURIOUS IF DANIA POINT ACTUALLY GOT A CHANCE TO LOWER ITS TAX BASE AFTER ALL THAT THEY'RE DOING OVER THERE FOR THEIR CITY WITH ALL THAT GREAT REDEVELOPMENT.
BOCA RATON, ALL THESE PLACES ARE THRIVING AND PEOPLE GO THERE, AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO THRIVE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE.
WE WANT TO EAT HERE. GRANTED, WE DO WANT TO TELL SOME PEOPLE GO HOME.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE WANT TO BRING PEOPLE HERE.
WE WANT TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD TIME DOING IT, AND WE WANT TO ENJOY IT, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THINGS THAT ARE REASONABLY PRICED.
I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS TO GO FORWARD AND GET US SOME INFORMATION, AND HOPEFULLY A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL GIVE US GOOD PROJECTS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME ON THAT.
IT IS CURRENTLY 12:27, AND I'VE BEEN ASKED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE FOR BATHROOM BREAKS.
WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 12:40 AM. IT'S JUST EASIER MATH.
IF I TELL YOU TO COME IN AT 12:37, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO COME AT 12:40.
RECESS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME BACK.
IT IS 12:40 IN THE MORNING ON APRIL 10.
[9.b Tamarac Park Renovation and Design Discussion]
TAMARAC PARK RENOVATIONS AND DESIGN DISCUSSION.THIS IS BEING PRESENTED BY OUR PARK AND REC DIRECTOR, RUDOLPH GALINDO. CITY MANAGER?
>> HE'S GOING TO BE JOINED BY PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR, MUSTAFA.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, AND COMMISSION.
RUDOLPH GALINDO, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
I'M HERE TO BRING FORTH A COUPLE OF DESIGNS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING.
WE HAD THREE OPTIONS IN THE LAST MEETING.
ONE WAS SELECTED BY THE COMMISSION TO BRING FORWARD AS WELL AS A NEW OPTION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.
THIS IS FOR THE TAMARAC PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
THE DESIGN THAT'S SHOWING ON THE SCREEN IS ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING.
THIS INCLUDES A 200-METER RUNNING TRACK, WALKWAY, LIGHTING, FENCING, AND EMERGENCY BLUE LIGHTS.
THIS IS ONE OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED, AND WE HAVE A SECOND OPTION WHICH WAS ASKED, IS THE NEXT SLIDE FOR A 400-METER TRACK? CAN YOU PULL UP THE NEXT ONE? WE HAVE THIS RENDERING HERE THAT SHOWS A 400-METER TRACK WITHIN THE PARK.
ALL OF THE OTHER AMENITIES ARE THE SAME, IT'D BE UPGRADING THE LIGHTING, UPGRADING THE FENCING, AND INCLUDING THE EMERGENCY BLUE LIGHTS AS WELL.
IN THE PREVIOUS PROJECT, THE COST IS THREE MILLION, WHICH IS TWO MILLION OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR THE ADDITION OF THE TRACK.
IN THIS PROJECT, THE ESTIMATED COST IS FIVE MILLION, SO IT'S ABOUT FOUR MILLION OVER THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.
JUST TO GIVE SOME PRICES AND NUMBERS, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
SORRY, CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE?
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EVEN BETTER. IT WAS ALSO ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING, WHAT WAS THE IMPACT OR WHO USES TAMARAC PARK IN THOSE FIELDS THAT ARE THERE? THESE ARE THE PARTICIPANTS THAT CURRENTLY USE THE FIELD.WE HAVE A SOCCER ACADEMY, WHICH IS OUR LARGEST GROUP, ABOUT 3,800, AS WELL AS RENTALS FOR YOUTH BASEBALL AND CRICKET.
WE HAVE FOUR OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE THERE.
OUR SUMMER CAMP USES THE FIELD IN THE SUMMER.
THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED IS 41,500, WHICH MOSTLY COMES FROM SOCCER ACADEMY AND RENTALS.
WITH OPTION A, WHICH IS A 200-METER TRACK, IMPACTS WOULD BE SPECIAL EVENTS MOVE TO THE TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX.
WE COULD STILL HOST SOCCER AND FIELD RENTALS WITH THE FIELD USAGE AS IS.
THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL TEAMS WOULD STILL HAVE ONE FIELD INSTEAD OF TWO, BUT COULD STILL OPERATE THEIR PROGRAMS. OPTION B WITH THE 400-METER TRACK, AGAIN SPECIAL EVENTS, WE COULD MOVE TO TAMARAC PARK.
SPECIAL EVENTS WOULD MOVE TO TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX, AND THE FIELD RENTALS WOULD ALSO MOVE TO THE SPORT COMPLEX, AND WE WOULD BASE THEM OFF THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR PROGRAMS. SUMMER CAMP COULD USE THE TRACK FOR PLAY INSTEAD OF THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL DIAMONDS.
WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE SOCCER ACADEMY WHICH IS THE LARGE GROUP, ABOUT 3,000.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE SPACE AT TAMARAC PARK UNDER OPTION B, BUT WE'D HAVE TO SEE WHEN WE COULD FIND SPACE FOR THEM TO USE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
OUR FIELDS ARE USED HEAVILY, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THEIR GROUP, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE WITH THEM.
AT THIS TIME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> SORRY. FOR THE RECORD, MUSTAFA ALBASSAM, PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR.
I WAS JUST GOING TO GO OVER THE TWO OPTIONS AND LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN THE TWO OPTIONS JUST TO ADD MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS THE FIRST OPTION THAT RUDOLPH HAS PRESENTED LAST TIME.
IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THIS IS A 200-METER TRACK.
IT'S NONSTANDARD, SO NO TRACK MEETS WILL BE HOSTED HERE.
IN THIS SECOND OPTION, THIS IS A FLORIDA HIGHWAY ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION APPROVED TRACK.
THIS IS WHERE TRACK MEETS CAN BE COMPETED, BUT OBVIOUSLY WITH THAT, THERE'S LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
HERE WE HAVE SHOWN 1,500 SEATS ON THE BLEACHERS.
THAT'S REALLY ON THE LOW SIDE OF THE AMOUNT OF SEATS YOU NEED TO PROVIDE TO HAVE TRACK MEETS, BUT IN DOING SO, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE FACILITIES TO SUPPORT THAT.
IN THIS SITE RIGHT HERE, WE DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES TO DO SO, SO WE NEED TO DO FURTHER EXPANSION, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RESTAURANT FACILITIES.
THE CURRENT BUILDING RIGHT NOW DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT AMOUNT OF ATTENDEES ON THOSE TRACK MEETS.
FOR THE 200 METERS, I BELIEVE IT CAN BE SUPPORTED, BUT FOR THE 400 METER, IT DOES NOT.
SAME THING WITH THE PARKING SPACES.
WE HAVE 162 PARKING SPACES HERE, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT ENOUGH FOR 1,500 PEOPLE ATTENDING TRACK MEETS.
THOSE ARE A HUGE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
MORE SO, IT'S NOT REALLY HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE, BUT IF I GO BACK AND LOOK AT HERE, THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS ANGLED.
WHEN WE MOVE TO THE SECOND OPTION, WE HAD TO TAKE ALL THE LANDSCAPE AND TREES TO THE SOUTHERN SIDE, REMOVAL OF THOSE TREES TO BE ABLE TO FIT THIS LARGE TRACK.
THOSE ARE REALLY TAKING MORE OF THE GREEN AREA OUT TO BE ABLE TO FIT THIS.
I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT CLARIFICATION IN AND SHARE WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S QUESTION TIME.
IF WE HAVE NO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> YOU SAID IT'S A FLORIDA HIGH SCHOOL CERTIFIED TRACK.
>> IAAF, HOW MANY LANES IS IT?
>> THAT'S SIX LANES. IAAF IS MORE OF AN INTERNATIONAL, BUT IN THE FLORIDA AND THE SOUTH FLORIDA IS THE FHSAA.
>> THAT CAN HAVE HIGH SCHOOL REGIONAL EVENTS?
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>> IN DOING MY RESEARCH, I SAW IAAF.
>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM, COMMISSIONER, IS VERY MINIMAL.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FLORIDA HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION AND THE INTERNATIONAL VERSION IS VERY MINIMAL.
>> BASED ON MY RESEARCH, IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF LANES.
I THINK IAAF IS NINE LANES, AND HIGH SCHOOL IS SIX OR SEVEN, FROM WHAT I DID IN MY PRELIMINARY RESEARCH.
>> IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BOTH ARE SIX LANES.
>> BOTH CAN BE QUALIFIED WITH SIX LANES.
IT'S BEEN PROBABLY 10 YEARS SINCE THE LAST TRACK I'VE DESIGNED, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BUT MOST OF THE SOUTH FLORIDA TRACKS THAT YOU'VE SEEN.
>> I WATCHED THE PREVIOUS PARKS DIRECTOR PRESENTATION WHEN THIS WAS DISCUSSION FOR TRACK AT KINGS POINT A FEW YEARS AGO, WHICH WASN'T THE RIGHT PLACE FOR IT, AND I GLEANED SOME INFORMATION FROM THERE AND PRESENTED WHERE THE IAAF WAS NINE LANES.
>> IT WAS THAT LAYOUT BECAUSE I DID IT FOR HIM.
>> YOU DID THE SAME LAYOUT, BUT I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS A LITTLE MORE DETAILED, NO DISRESPECT, RUDY.
IT JUST HAD A LITTLE MORE DETAILS AND BREAKDOWN IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TRACKS.
YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A HIGH SCHOOL QUALIFIED TRACK.
IT CAN HOLD 1,500 PEOPLE IF IT'S A 400-METER TRACK.
>> WHAT ELSE DO I SEE IN THERE? IN TERMS OF THE COST, IT'S GOING TO COST FOUR MILLION MORE.
YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE THE EVENT SPACE, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID, RUDY? WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE SPACE.
>> YES. WE WOULD RELOCATE OUR EVENTS TO A DIFFERENT PARK.
WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HOLD THEM WITH THIS LAYOUT.
>> WE'D HAVE TO RELOCATE IT TO A DIFFERENT PARK?
>> THE 200 METER, IF YOU CAN BRING THAT ON THE SCREEN? WITH A 200 METER, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HOST EVENTS.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR BLEACHERS AND NONE OF THAT STUFF?
>> YOU COULD HAVE BLEACHERS, 150, 200 SEATS, BUT IT WILL BE MORE OF A PRACTICE COMMUNITY, NOT FOR TRACK MEETS.
>> OF COURSE, WHICH I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH AS WELL.
I SAW SOME CITIES HAVE $5-$10 MILLION OF ECONOMIC IMPACT JUST BY HOSTING STATE HIGH SCHOOL CHAMPIONSHIPS.
I SAW IN NORTH FLORIDA AND JACKSONVILLE, ALSO IN KANSAS CITY, HOW MUCH MONEY THEY GENERATED FROM THOSE EVENTS, WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION LAST TIME FOR 400-METER TRACK BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN GO BEYOND EXERCISING, BUT ALSO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BRING ECONOMIC IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY.
LOOKING AT THE REVENUES FOR COLONY WEST, I SEE THAT WE HAVE A DIP IN THE SUMMER TIMES.
OBVIOUSLY, GOLFING AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF IS A WINTERTIME SPORT, SO LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN STIMULATE THE ECONOMY AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN SUMMERTIME.
I LOOKED AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
ALSO LOOKING AT DATA THAT BASEBALL IS A DYING SPORT, LESS AND LESS KIDS ARE PLAYING BASEBALL.
OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN SOCCER.
THE SOCCER FIELD IS STILL GOING TO BE ON THE INSIDE, IF YOU'RE TAKING BACK TO THE 400 METER.
THE SOCCER FIELD WILL BE ON THE INSIDE.
WE'LL LOSE THE BASEBALL DIAMOND, AND THEN THE SOCCER FIELD WILL BE ON THE INSIDE OF THE 400-METER TRACK IF WE TAKE THIS OPTION.
YOU SAID PARKING. WHAT WOULD REQUIRE MORE PARKING? HOW WOULD THAT WORK?
>> WE DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES ON THAT, SO THAT'S AN OPTION WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE, PERHAPS POSSIBLY CONSIDER TO DO A PHASE 2 PARKING GARAGE OR SOMETHING.
THE RULE OF THUMB IS EVERY 2-3 SEATS, YOU NEED ONE PARKING SPACE.
IF YOU DO THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE NEED AT LEAST 500 PARKING SPACES OUT THERE.
RIGHT NOW, THIS PARKING LOT IS ONLY 162, SO WE NEED FIVE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT WE HAVE THERE.
WELL, I SHOULD SAY 500/162 IS 3 1/2.
>> WHAT ABOUT [NOISE] TARA VELA HIGH SCHOOL HAS A TRACK.
IS THIS THE SAME AS THAT TRACK OR IS THIS DIFFERENT? YOU SAID IT'S A HIGH SCHOOL TRACK, IT'S NOT A IAAF.
WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND TARAVELLA?
>> THIS ONE'S THE SAME AS TARAVELLA THAT THEY HAVE.
>> IT'S THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL STANDARD?
>> THE CLARIFICATION OF IAAF, I THINK, IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
IT WILL BE THE SAME HIGH SCHOOL STANDARD TRACK?
>> BUT YOU SAID IN YOUR LAST PRESENTATION, YOU DID A FEW YEARS AGO, YOU DESIGNED THIS SAME TRACK, AND IT WAS NOT AN IAAF. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
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>> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, COMMISSIONER, AND FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BEING PREPARED TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION FULLY, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FLORIDA HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THE IAAF IS VERY SMALL.
I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THE NINE LANES VERSUS SIX LANES.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MORE OF OLYMPICS SIZE, THAT'S THE NINE LANES, BUT FOR TYPICAL COLLEGE AND HIGH SCHOOL MEETS, SIX LANES WILL BE SUFFICIENT.
>> YOU'RE SAYING WE CAN'T FIT THE IAAF IN THERE?
>> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS CAN BE CONSIDERED TO BE AN IAAF.
NINE LANES DEFINITELY CANNOT FIT IN HERE, AND NINE LANES IS MORE OLYMPICS.
FROM MY RECOLLECTION IS SIX LANES CAN BE CONSIDERED AS AN IAAF.
ONE, FOR OPTION B, WHICH IS THE OPTION I LIKE THE MOST, YOU SAID THE SPECIAL EVENT WOULD MOVE TO TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME BECAUSE WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
I'VE BEEN TO PARKS WHERE THEY HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS WHERE THERE'S A TRACK, SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO MOVE EVENTS.
>> SOME OF IT REALLY DEPENDS ONCE WE DO THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THE TRACK, BUT IF WE HAVE THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT CAN'T GO ON IT, SO WE HAVE THE OPTION OF MOVING THEM TO THE SPORT COMPLEX.
IF WE CAN KEEP THEM THERE, THEN WE WILL.
>> DON'T PUT THAT WE WON'T HAVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE ARTIFICIAL TURF ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD THAT IS MORE EASILY DAMAGED THAN A TRACK, SO THAT CANNOT BE AN EXCUSE.
MARK THAT OFF BECAUSE THAT'S NOT TRUE.
THE SAME SPACE WILL BE AVAILABLE, A MORE BEAUTIFUL SPACE.
THE FIELD RENTALS, BASEBALL AND CRICKET, THERE'S THREE DIAMONDS AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
THAT'S WHERE I SEE THEM PLAYING CRICKETS AND BASEBALL, NOT HERE.
NOW, SOMETIME DURING WHEN REC BASEBALL, YOU MIGHT SEE A TEAM RENTING THE DIAMOND THERE, BUT MOSTLY IT'S AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE BETTER DIAMONDS.
THE DIAMONDS THAT'S AT TAMARAC PARK NEEDS REPAIR, WE KNEW THAT.
NO ONE REALLY WANTED TO RENT THEM BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T THAT GOOD, SO LET'S BE CLEAR ON THAT ONE.
SUMMER CAMP, WELL, IT WON'T BE A BIG BECAUSE NOW THEY GET THE FEEL, SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
SOCCER ACADEMY, NORMALLY, IS AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
I THINK THEY CHANGED, AND I HEARD AS OF TWO WEEKS AGO THAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO GO BACK TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
THEY DO NOT HAVE 3,000 AT A TIME, SO LET'S MARK THAT OFF, THAT'S SO NOT TRUE.
THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY WERE AT TAMARAC PARK WAS BECAUSE REC SOCCER WAS TAKING PLACE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON THEY WERE THERE IS BECAUSE SOMETHING WAS TAKING PLACE.
THE REC SPORTS WAS USING THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
THEY'RE NORMALLY AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX, REGARDLESS, SO EVERYTHING GOES ON REASON WHY NOT TO.
>> IT'S REALLY JUST TO SAY THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE WHEN THE GROUPS HAVE TO MOVE.
THEY ARE AT TAMARAC PARK, BUT WE CAN WORK WITH THEM. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, THEY'RE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
THEY'RE AT TAMARAC PARK CURRENTLY SIMPLY BECAUSE REC SOCCER WAS TAKING PLACE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY'RE AT TAMARAC PARK.
SPORTS COMPLEX IS THEIR PREFERRED LOCATION AND WHERE THEY'RE NORMALLY AT.
TAMARAC PARK WAS JUST FILLING IN.
IT'S NOT LIKE, NOW, THE SPORTS COMPLEX IS GOING TO FILL IN FOR TAMARAC.
I'M SAYING ALL THESE REASONS THAT THE IMPACT IS TRULY NOT AN IMPACT BASED ON THE REASONS I JUST GAVE YOU.
THAT WAS ONE, 1,500 TRACK MEET.
I ASKED SOME LOCAL COACH, A COUPLE OF THE COACHES WHO ASKED AND THE PARENTS WHO ASKED, I SPOKE TO THEM.
I SAID, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THE 200? WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THE 200 IS IT'S NOT GOOD PRACTICE.
APPARENTLY, THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS BUILD ALL THESE 200, BUT THE KIDS HAVE TO RUN 400.
THE KIDS STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, SO IT WAS A BAD DEAL.
THEY SAID, IT'S A WASTE, UNLESS WE'RE DOING 200 INDOORS.
THEN FROM RESEARCH, I FOUND OUT THAT'S WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
THE ONLY OPTION, REALLY, IF WE'RE DOING 200, IT GOT TO BE INDOOR,
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AND I KNOW THE MAYOR HAD ASKED FOR THAT BEFORE.IF IT'S OUTDOOR, IT HAS TO BE 400, OR THEY CAN'T EVEN PRACTICE.
IT'S NOT WORTH THE PRACTICE, IT'S NOT WORK THE MONEY SPENT.
EVEN IF WE CANNOT HAVE TRACK MEETS OR WHATEVER TO MAKE THAT INCOME, WE CAN MAKE INCOME OFF THE PRACTICE AND SMALLER EVENTS.
OR IN THE FUTURE, NOW WE CAN BUILD A GARAGE, DO WHATEVER IT TAKES, BUT TO BUILD 200, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COACHES, IT'S NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT ON THE OUTSIDE.
NOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL I ASKED.
IF WE'RE DOING 200, WE HAVE TO LOOK ON THE INSIDE, WHICH IS WAY MORE MONEY.
I THINK I COVERED EVERYTHING I WANTED. THANK YOU.
>> I GUESS I'LL GO. I LIKE THE IDEA OF TRACK.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST LISTENING TO EVERYBODY, AND LISTENING TO THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST FIT.
WE HAD TRIED, AND WE HAD SAID THAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR A BETTER PLACE IN OUR CITY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD FIT.
I THINK THE WALKING TRAIL IS PERFECT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR.
I'VE ASKED PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING CLUBS WHICH ONE THEY PREFERRED, AND THEY BOTH SAID THEY SAID BOTH OF THEM ARE NOT OPTIONS.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO MILLENNIUM COLLEGIATE ACADEMY, AND THEY HAVE A 200 METER.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CONVERSATION UNLESS I GOT IT WRONG, TARAVELLA HAD A 400 METER.
THEY GO THERE WHEN THEY NEED TO, AND WHAT MCA ASKED FOR IS INSTEAD OF SPENDING MONEY IN ANOTHER LOCATION THAT MAY WIND UP HAVING US MOVE EVENTS TO OTHER LOCATIONS THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FULLY PROGRAM, WE SAY WE CAN.
BUT IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WE'VE GOT 50 EVENTS GOING ON IN LESS THAN SIX MONTHS IN OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT FOR THINGS.
ARE WE REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE ALL OF THIS IF WE'RE TAKING OUT SOME OF THE ITEMS IN THIS PARK? THEORETICALLY ONLY BECOMING A TRACK PARK WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SOCCER, WHEREAS, IF WE KEEP IT WITH THE DESIGN THE FIRST DESIGN, EVEN IF YOU TAKE OFF ONE OF THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND KEEP IT AT 200 METER, YOU AT LEAST HAVE ONE MULTI PURPOSE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS.
YOU COULD PLAY TWO MORE THINGS OF SOCCER, ACTUALLY, THREE MORE SOCCER AND A MULTI PURPOSE FIELD, EVEN IF WE WANT WITH THE ORIGINAL OPTION A.
HEARING THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT EVEN THE WISEST BENEFIT TO DO THAT.
WHY ARE WE NOT MAYBE DOING SOME PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR COLLEGIATE ACADEMY, WHO IS LOOKING FORWARD TO TRYING TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SPORTS IN THERE THAT WASN'T ORIGINALLY CREATED WITH.
THAT WE CAN THEN HELP WITH SOME FUNDING, AND THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO USE IT AS AN OPEN PARK FOR OTHER THAN SCHOOL HOURS.
WHY ARE WE NOT THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX THERE VERSUS RECREATING SOMETHING WHERE WE MAY NOT NEED TO RECREATE IT, ESPECIALLY IF TARAVELLA IS A 400.
AND I DON'T REALLY HEAR ABOUT THAT MANY PEOPLE GOING TO TARAVELLA FOR THESE IAFF, OR HS, WHATEVER'S MEETS.
WHILE, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO BRING SOME ATTRACTION IN, I'M NOT HEARING A WHOLE BIG AMOUNT OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY WANT SUCH AN ATTRACTION.
YES, FOR RESTAURANTS, YES FOR BUILDING, FOR HOUSING, LOWER TAXES, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WE HEAR THAT PROFUSELY, BUT WE ARE NOT HEARING A LOT FOR THE RUNNING PART OF IT.
I'M NOT SURE IF PEOPLE ARE AWARE, BUT IT COST US $4 MILLION FOR WATER'S EDGE PARK, A BEAUTIFUL PARK, WITH ALL THAT WE GOT FOR IT.
I'M NOT SEEING A GOOD FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY HERE FOR A 400 METER ITEM FOR $5 MILLION WITH A COUPLE OF UPGRADES AND ONE SOCCER FIELD.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A VERY WISE INVESTMENT IN MY OPINION.
WHAT THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED WAS FOR THE WALKING AND WAS FOR THE EMERGENCY LIGHTS, AND WAS FOR UPGRADING LIGHTING AND REPLACED FENCING.
THAT'S COVERED. OR IS THE WALKING TRAIL SEPARATE?
>> THE WALKING TRAIL IT'S NOT WHAT THE GRANT COVERS, BUT IT'S WHAT THAT ORIGINAL BUDGET COVERS, AND THE GRANT IS FOR THAT.
>> BASICALLY, OPTION, LET'S SAY, ONE FROM LAST TIME IS COVERED FINANCIALLY.
IT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN STRIVING FOR ALL THIS TIME.
>> OPTION 1 IS THE ORIGINAL GRANT DIDN'T INCLUDE A TRACK AT ALL.
IT JUST INCLUDED THE WALKING PATH. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FUNDED.
>> THAT'S WHY I'M CALLING IT NUMBER 1.
>> BUT THE OPTION WITH THE 200 METER TRACK, IS ADDITIONAL, BUT IT STILL INCLUDES ALL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED AS WELL AS THIS ONE.
WITH THE 400 METER TRACK, THE TRACK QUALIFIES AS THE WALKWAY THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE GRANT.
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WE'RE STILL MEETING ALL THE SAME REQUIREMENTS.IT'S JUST THE COST IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S A LARGER TRACK.
>> I'M AT THE 400 METER. WE GET RID OF THE WALKWAY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WALKING ON A TRACK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE AT SOME BIG DEAL OF A TRAINING PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE RUNNING.
I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT MULTIPURPOSE USE IN THAT ONE.
IF WE'RE SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON OUR RUNNING, AND OUR TRACK AND FIELD MEETS.
AS I SAID, MY BODY DOESN'T LIKE IT ANYMORE, BUT I LIKE TRACK AND FIELD, SHOT PUT, LONG JUMP, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF THAT GOES WITH IT.
MAYBE IF WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE A REALLY NICE BIG PIECE OF LAND THAT COMES FORWARD THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO DO IT WOULD BE LOVELY.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SQUEEZING IN A ROUND PEG SQUARE HOLE, WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT TO SAY IT.
JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO SAY WE WANT TO DO IT, I'D RATHER INVEST THAT MONEY IN HELPING OUR COLLEGIATE ACADEMY BECOME BETTER WITH THEIR TRACK AND FIELD, USE THAT MULTIPURPOSE FIELD, USE THEIR FIELD FOR RUNNING AND DO SOME PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, AND UPGRADE THIS FIELD WITH THE WALKING TRACK AND THE LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN THE GRANT.
BECAUSE I CAN'T SAY THAT I COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE ADDING $4 MILLION FOR EITHER ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I THINK YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 200 METER, AND WE'RE SAYING BILL IN A 200 METER IS LIKE BILL IN A HALF COURT AND A BASKETBALL COURT TO PLAY FIVE ON FIBE.
YOU WERE A BASKETBALL PLAYER, WERE YOU?
>> YOU CAN'T PLAY FIVE ON FIVE ON HALF COURT.
>> YOU NEED A WHOLE COURT TO PLAY FIVE ON FIVE
>> I'M SAYING I'M NOT EVEN HERE WITH 200 METERS ANYMORE.
I'M WITH THE COLLEGIATE ACADEMY.
>> THE COLLEGIATE ACADEMY HAS A 200 METER TRACK, AND THEY WANT ACCESS TO A 400 METER TRACK.
OBVIOUSLY, THE HIGH SCHOOL TRACKS ARE PRIVATE, SO PEOPLE CAN'T JUST WALK ON THE TARAVELLA TRACK, THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GO TO A TRACK.
BY HAVING A PUBLIC TRACK, A PART OF THE CITY, PEOPLE CAN UTILIZE IT.
>> YES AND WE DID REACH OUT TO TARAVELLA A WHILE BACK TO ASK ABOUT USE OF THE TRACK, AND IT WASN'T AVAILABLE TO US.
THAT'S ALSO WHERE THIS CONVERSATION STEMMED FROM AS WELL.
>> EXACTLY. WE JUST CAN'T RANDOMLY GO TO TARAVELLA TRACK.
THIS WILL BE ADDING A TRACK TO THE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND WALK.
YOU SAID THE GRANT, IT FALLS INTO THE GRANT REQUIREMENTS?
>> YEAH. THE TRACK WHEN IT IS NOT BEING USED FOR RUNNING OR FOR PRACTICE, OR FOR MEETS, IT WOULD BE OPEN AS A WALKING TRAIL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE SAW LIKE DR. DANIELS MENTIONED, WE STILL HAVE THE INFIELD WHERE WE CAN HAVE EVENTS ON THE INFIELD.
CAN WE STILL HAVE THE PET EXPO IN FIELD?
>> WE CAN CERTAINLY USE THE FIELD THAT'S IN THE CENTER.
>> WE CAN STILL HAVE EVENTS THERE ON THE IN FIELD AND DO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE PET EXPO IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I LIKE THE 400 METER BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A BETTER BILL IN A 200 METER.
IT'S LIKE A BILL AND A HALF COURT. I THINK IT'S A BETTER INVESTMENT.
WE CAN UTILIZE IT TO HAVE EVENTS.
THE RESIDENTS CAN COME AND WALK.
IT UPLIFTS THE PARK, AND THE EVENTS CAN BE AT THE OTHER LOCATION.
THAT'S MY TAKE. THE SCHOOL, OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW THE TRACK TEAM VERY WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE RESTRUCTURING A FEW TIMES.
I THINK THEY WILL BE HAPPY HAVING A 400 METER TRACK, AND I THINK THEIR TRACK IS ONLY 200 METER.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO INVEST WITH THE SCHOOL, BUT I THINK 200 METER IS NOT ENOUGH FOR KIDS TO TRAIN.
I THINK HAVING A TRACK IN A CITY THAT'S 400 METER WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE SCHOOL AND LIFT THEIR LEVEL, BECAUSE THEY RECENTLY WENT TO THE COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIP, WHERE MY GOOD FRIEND COMMISSIONER BOLTON, THANK YOU FOR DONATING.
THEY CAN NOW HAVE THE COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIP COME TO TAMARAC, AND THEY CAN HAVE HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE, SO THEY CAN BE EVEN BETTER WINNERS.
THAT BRINGS PEOPLE FROM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY, SPEND MONEY AT THE BUSINESSES, COME TO COLONY WEST, SEE THE BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN PLUM HARBOR, SEE THE BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY CENTER AT SHAKER VILLAGE, AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MOVE TO TAMARAC.
>> COMMISSIONER IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE LITTLE DISCLAIMER HERE THAT THE POINT OF THIS POWERPOINT OR THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE IS TO SHOW THE LAYOUT OF THE FORGING METER TRACK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
THE COST THAT RUDOLPH HAS SHOWED HERE TO $5 MILLION IS TO CONSTRUCT THE TRACK WITH THE BLEACHERS.
BUT WE DID NOT REALLY EXPLORE THE OPTION OF HOW MUCH WOULD COST TO BRING THE AMENITIES SUCH AS BATHROOMS. I UNDERSTAND THE PARKING LOT CAN BE A PHASE 2, BUT THE CURRENT BATHROOMS THAT WE HAVE, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN THIS, SO IF THE DESIRE FROM THIS COMMISSION TO PROCEED WITH A 400 METER TRACK, THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL COST TO UPGRADE THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING.
WE MAY HAVE TO DEMOLISH THIS BUILDING AND BUILD A NEW BUILDING OR PERHAPS EXPAND IT.
I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT DISCLAIMER OUT THERE.
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>> YOU HAVE TO BRING MORE INFORMATION.
IF WE DECIDE TO GO TO OPTION B, YOU'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON OPTION B.
>> THAT'S WHERE THE REAL DESIGN HAS TO GO IN DETAIL OF DESIGNING ACTUALLY THE TRACK.
THE POINT OF THIS SLIDE WAS JUST TO SHOW THE LAYOUT AND GIVE YOU AN APPROXIMATE COST OF THE TRACK ITSELF COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS OPTION.
BUT IF THE DESIRE IN THE VOTE HERE TO PROCEED WITH THIS OPTION, THEN, WE NEED TO START HIRING CONSULTANT AND START DOING THE ACTUAL DESIGN, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL COME UP WITH NUMBERS.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE MAT OF SEATS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN WITH THE BLEACHERS.
IF I DID THE MATH CORRECTLY, THE AMOUNT OF BATHROOMS WE NEED IS LIKE ALMOST QUADRUPLE IN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THAT BUILDING, IF NOT MORE.
IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MORE RESTROOMS, AND AMENITIES AND CONCESSION BUILDINGS TO BE PUT THROUGH THAT PARK TO SUSTAIN SUCH EVENTS IF WE HAVE THE AIM FOR IT.
WELL, I'LL GO WITH THE FEELINGS OF THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER.
>> QUESTION. HOW MANY RESTROOMS DO WE HAVE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX?
>> YEAH. GO AHEAD. I THINK IT IS FOUR.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO UPSTAIRS, SO IT'S REALLY JUST TWO.
>> REALLY THE NUMBER OF BATHROOMS, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BATHROOMS, AND A NUMBER OF STALLS IN EACH BATHROOM.
FROM THE CODE I DID THE RESEARCH ON BLEACHERS BECAUSE THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE HAS SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO STADIUM SEATING OR SEATING LIKE THIS.
>> WE'RE NOT DOING TRACK MEAT.
REMEMBER, THAT'S IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE JUST TALKING TO BUILD THIS FOR PRACTICE BASED ON WHAT YOU PUT IN THIS DESTROYING.
TRACK MEAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT MAYBE WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT YET.
>> THEN THAT CAN BE EXPANDING THE BUILDING IN THE PARKING LOT, THAT CAN BE A PHASE TOO.
I'M JUST PUTTING A DISCLAIMER OUT THERE THAT THE PRICE THAT WE HAVE HERE.
>> BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT SO DON'T PUT THAT DISCLAIMER OUT THERE IF THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M JUST SAYING TO BUILD THIS TRACK, AND I'M COMPARING IT TO THE OTHER PARKS, HOW MUCH RESTROOMS WE HAVE THERE.
BECAUSE THE SPORTS COMPLEX ACCOMMODATE, TRUST ME, A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS LIKE, TWO SETS OF RESTROOMS. ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE TRY NEVER TO USE PUBLIC RESTROOM TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
I'M LUCKY I NEVER HAD TO GO IN THERE.
IT'S NOT THAT MUCH. IT'S NOT MORE THAN A COMPLEX.
THEN YOU HAVE A SCHOOL RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE COMPLEX, WHO WE HAVE SHARED WHAT DO YOU CALL IT WHEN YOU SHARE WITH THIS BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT WITH NORT LAUDERDALE BEFORE.
I'VE DONE IT WITH POMPINO, WHERE WE SHARE USE.
THEY HAVE RESTROOMS. THE BUILDING WHERE THE BASKETBALL COURT IS HAS RESTROOMS. THE ACTUAL PARK COMMUNITY PARK BUILDING HAS RESTROOMS. REALLY.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I'M THE ONE WHO CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER.
>> I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M SAYING WE'RE DOING IT BASED ON THIS.
IF WE'RE TALKING FUTURE, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT $100 MILLION PROJECT THAT EVERYBODY A GUNG HO ABOUT. I DON'T EVEN SEE.
I CAN SEE FOUR MILLION FOR EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE IN.
I CAN SEE OUR MILLION FOR MY KIDS AND THE KIDS IN TAMARAC EVERYWHERE OR ME WALKING AND LOSING WEIGHT AND BEING HEALTHIER.
I CAN SPEND $4 MILLION FOR THE HEALTH OF A COMMUNITY AND THE UPGRADE OF A PARK.
IF IT'S, DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION, I THINK WE CAN TAKE IT FROM HERE AND WORK ON WHATEVER DEFICIENCIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND BRING IT BACK TO IF 400 METERS IS THE CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION.
I THINK WE CAN WE CAN GET CREATIVE AND WORK ON MAGIC TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE NEEDS.
>> ISN'T THERE A SCHOOL NEXT DOOR THAT PROBABLY WILL BE SOLD?
I THINK IT'S 1:15, AND I'M HEARING VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT ON THE SAME PAGE.
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I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH OPTION B AND COME BACK WITH WHATEVER YOU COME BACK WITH.>> THANK YOU. YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS ON 9B FOR THE 400 FOR OPTION B FOR THE 400 METER TRACK TO LOOK INTO THAT FURTHER IN THE ITEMS ON THAT.
[9.c Questions, Discussion and Consensus on the Speed Detection Systems for Enforcement of School Zone Speed Limits]
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, UNLESS YOU YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING I DO. YOU DO NOT, RIGHT? WE'RE UP TO 9C QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION, AND CONSENSUS ON THE SPEED DETECTION SYSTEMS FOR ENFORCEMENT OF SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMITS.THIS IS BEING PRESENTED BY TONER TOING ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND BSO CAPTAIN CHRISTOPHER PALAMARA.
>> MADAM MAYOR, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN MOVING THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING IN THE INTEREST OF TAKING CARE.
>> BUT BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE NOBODY HERE WAITING FOR THIS TOPIC BUT IT'S NOT ME.
>> THIS GENTLEMAN ASSURED US THAT HE'S USED TO THIS FROM HIS FORMER LOCATION, AND I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.
ANYBODY ELSE, COMMISSION? DO YOU WISH TO HEAR IT NOW OR DO YOU WISH TO HAVE IT DEFERRED? COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
>> WELL, I SAID NO EARLIER, BUT NOW WE'RE HERE, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL HEAR IT.
>> WELL, GUESS WHAT? COME ON UP.
>> YES, YOU MAY. GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONER TEN STERLING FOR THE RECORD ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
>> MAY I REMEMBER YOU SAID THAT STAFF SPEAKS FROM THAT MIC.
>> SPEAK WHEREVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE.
>> IT'S YOUR RULES. I'M JUST REMINDING YOU.
>> THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED AT THE COMMISSION WELL, THE STAFF AGENDA WORKSHOP ON APRIL 7TH.
RIGHT NOW, THIS ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO DRAFTING WELL, GIVING STAFF THE GO AHEAD TO ADOPT A LOCAL ORDINANCE AND IDENTIFY PRIORITY SCHOOL ZONES.
THERE ARE FOUR LOCAL SCHOOLS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT, AND THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL ZONES IN RENAISSANCE, TAMARAC, ELEMENTARY, CHALLENGER, AND MILLENNIUM.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT TIMES REGARDING MORNING ENFORCEMENT.
EVENING OR ALL THE ENFORCEMENT.
THE IDEA IS FOR THE COMMISSION TO DECIDE, ARE WE GOING TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE? WHAT SCHOOL ZONES WE'RE GOING TO BE ENFORCING? SHOULD WE DECIDE TO MOVE ON WITH THAT? ENFORCEMENT PERIOD, AND THEN SHOULD WE DECIDE TO DO ALL OF THAT, THEN DO WE MOVE ON WITH A CONTRACT WITH REDSPEED THAT'S PIGGYBACKING OFF PLANTATIONS AGREEMENT, OR DO YOU WANT THE STAFF TO GO OUT AND GO THROUGH WITH A NEW RFP? THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
>> NOW THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS PRESENTATION, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISH TO SPEAK?
>> YOU HAD MORE INFORMATION INSIGHT.
>> DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION? SURE. JIM, CAN YOU UP? LET ME JUST GO BACK.
THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED IN APRIL OF '23.
HB 657 WAS A BILL THAT NO ALLOW SPEED DETECTION SYSTEMS IN SCHOOL ZONES.
OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE.
THIS ITEM WELL, THIS BILL REALLY IS TO IMPROVE SCHOOL SAFETY FOR STUDENTS, PEDESTRIANS.
THE ITEM WAS DISCUSSED FIRST IN JUNE OF '23, AND COMMISSION GAVE CONSENSUS TO IDENTIFY A COMPANY TO CONDUCT A FREE TRAFFIC STUDY.
THAT WAS DONE, AND REDSPEED WAS A COMPANY THAT WAS SELECTED TO ACTUALLY DO THIS STUDY.
IT WAS PRESENTED TO COMMISSION THE OCTOBER,
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AND WHAT THEY FOUND WAS WITHIN THE FOUR LOCATIONS, 100 VIOLATIONS WERE IDENTIFIED, AND THIS WAS DONE FOR SEPTEMBER OF 22ND, '23.FROM HERE, THE CONSENSUS WAS TOGETHER MORE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO AN ACCIDENT DATA REPORT, WHICH WE ASKED BSO TO CONDUCT, AND ALSO TO GO BACK AND GET SOME COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS IT RELATES TO HOW RESIDENTS FEEL ABOUT SUCH A SYSTEM.
THAT WAS DATA COLLECTION EFFORTS INCLUDED THAT.
FOLLOW UP TRAFFIC STUDY WAS INITIATED BECAUSE THE LAST ONE WAS DONE IN '23, SO WE ASKED FOR ANOTHER ONE FOR '24.
OF COURSE, THE BSO REPORT WAS REQUESTED AND THE COMMUNITY SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ENFORCEMENT NEEDS ARE, IT'S FIRST IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO SPEED ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT TIMES THAT, A MUNICIPALITY CAN CHOOSE, WHETHER A MORNING ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS JUST AN HOUR IN THE MORNING OR CHOOSE TO DO ALL DAY ENFORCEMENT OR AFTERNOON, WHICH IS AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL SESSION.
OTHER STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, VIOLATIONS OCCUR AT 10 MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMITS.
THE PROGRAM MUST FOLLOW DOT GUIDELINES.
OF COURSE, TWO, THE BILL REQUIRES A 30 DAY AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.
PROGRAM REPORTS, CONTRACT RENEWALS MUST BE PRESENTED AT A COUNCIL MEETING ANNUALLY.
ALSO, ALL FOOTAGE MUST BE DELETED WITHIN 90 DAYS POST CASE RESOLUTION.
THE SYSTEM 2, THEY REQUIRE THAT THERE'S AN ANNUAL INDEPENDENT PERFORMANCE VERIFICATION.
ALL VIOLATIONS, FINAL, I WOULD SAY, THE FINAL GO AHEAD IN TERMS OF ENFORCING THE VIOLATION, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AGAIN, THREE STEPS, IF THE MUNICIPALITY WANTS TO ADOPT SUCH A PROGRAM, MUST BE PASSED BY A LOCAL ORDINANCE.
THERE HAS TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND TO JUSTIFY THE NEED.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SCHOOL ZONES HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED AS HAVING A HEIGHTENED SAFETY RISK.
THIS IS A SPEED STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN SEPTEMBER OF '24, AND WHAT WAS FOUND WAS CLOSED TO OVER 200 VIOLATIONS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN '23 SHOWED 100 VIOLATIONS HERE IN '24, SAYING CLOSE TO 200 VIOLATIONS.
RENAISSANCE LOCATED IN 82ND STREET, HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.
MOST VIOLATIONS IN THE AFTERNOON, TAMARACK ELEMENTARY, YOU'LL SEE MOST VIOLATIONS IN THE MORNING, LIKEWISE, CHALLENGER AND COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.
MOST VIOLATIONS IN THE MORNING.
THEN FINALLY, CHALLENGER AND MILLENNIUM IS SEEN ON 94TH AVENUE, MOST VIOLATIONS MIDDAY.
THIS IS BSO'S REVIEW OF THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED STUDY, AND THEY'RE SEEING THAT ON 82ND STREET, NO SPEEDING COMPLAINTS IN THIS AREA.
THEY'RE THINKING THAT SPEEDING VIOLATIONS ISN'T REALLY TOO BAD BECAUSE OF THE STANDING TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF TIMES.
FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, IS SAYING THAT ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE MAY BE REQUIRED TO MEET STATUTORY STANDARDS.
NOW, WE MOVE ON TO TAMARACK ELEMENTARY, AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS A SMALL SCHOOL ZONE, WHICH EXTENDS ONLY ABOUT 50 FEET EACH DIRECTION, THE CONCERNS IS WITH THE PLACEMENT, THE STUDY SHOWS THAT THE PLACEMENT MAY BE OFF BASED ON BSO INSPECTION OF THE STUDY.
SPEED VIOLATIONS HERE MAY STILL MEET REQUIRED STANDARDS.
NOW, WE MOVE ON TO CHALLENGER AND MILLENNIUM ON 94TH AVENUE, AND THE STUDY INDICATES NO SIGNIFICANT SPEEDING ISSUES, WHICH IS LIKELY DUE TO NORMAL SCHOOL TRAFFIC CONGESTIONS AND ROUTINE BSO PRESENCE.
CHALLENGER ON WEST COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.
STUDY REPORTS LOW VIOLATIONS, BUT THIS AREA POSES HIGH RISK.
THIS IS DUE TO PARENTS AND CHILDREN AND OTHER PEDESTRIANS USING WEST COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD TO CROSS.
DUE TO SPEED AND TRAFFIC VOLUME,
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THIS LOCATION POSES A HEIGHTENED SAFETY RISK.NOW, WE LOOK AT THE BSO ACCIDENT REPORT, AND THIS WAS DONE FOR 2023 AND 2024, AND IT SHOWS THAT IN 2023, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE, TAMARACK ELEMENTARY HAD ABOUT 24 ACCIDENTS AND 11 IN '24.
FOR CHALLENGER AND MILLENNIUM, SEVEN ACCIDENTS IN '23 AND EIGHT IN '24.
THEN FOR RENAISSANCE, YOU SEE A GREATER NUMBER OF 69 ACCIDENTS IN '23 AND 42 IN '24.
JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT MOST ACCIDENTS HAPPEN BETWEEN 8:00 AM TO 3:00 PM.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE FUND DISTRIBUTION.
SHOULD THIS PROGRAM BE IMPLEMENTED? THE FIND FLORIDA STATUTE IS 100 PER VIOLATION.
TAMARAC WILL RECEIVE BY BASED ON THE DISTRIBUTION, 39, THE VENDOR 21, 20 WILL GO TO THE GENERAL THE STATE GENERAL FUND, 12 TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND FIVE TO THE CROSSING GUARD PROGRAM, AND THEN THREE TO THE FORD DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THIS WAS A COMING TO SURVEY THAT WAS DONE TO GATHER FEEDBACK AND IT WAS LAUNCHED MARCH 10.
THE DATA IS CURRENT AS OF APRIL 3RD, 539 RESPONDENTS.
THE DATA IS PRETTY MUCH SPLIT, 89.
ABOUT 49, YOU SEE THEY'RE IN FAVOR AND 51 OPPOSING THE PROGRAM.
AS IT RELATES TO WHO TOOK THE SURVEY, ABOUT 82%, INDICATED THAT THEY'RE A RESIDENT, 25% SAID THEY'RE A PARENT OR GUARDIAN OF A STUDENT, 22%, INDICATING THEY'RE A RESIDENT WHO LIVE IN A SCHOOL ZONE, AND ABOUT 7%, SAYING THEY'RE A FACULTY MEMBER.
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, REDSPEED AS THE VENDOR THAT WAS SELECTED TO DO THE SPEED STUDY.
THEY ALSO HAVE A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PLANTATION.
JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE KEY TERMS OF THAT CONTRACT.
THERE IS A NO COST TERMINATION.
CERTIFIED MAIL COST IS COVERED BY THE VENDOR.
THE ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGY THAT IS USED IS LANE SPECIFIC VIDEO BASED SYSTEM USED FOR ACCURACY.
LEGAL DEFENSE SUPPORT IS PROVIDED BY THE VENDOR, AND IT'S A TURNKEY OPERATION WHERE THE VENDOR HANDLES THE PERMITTING, CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE, AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION COSTS.
AGAIN, CITY OF PLANTATION DOES AN ALL DAY ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DAY, AND THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR CONTRACTUAL TERM WITH ONE ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.
SHOULD THE CITY DECIDE THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO AN ALL DAY ENFORCEMENT, REDSPEED, THE VENDOR HAS GIVEN TWO OPTIONS THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW US TO USE PLANTATIONS AGREEMENT.
THAT WOULD BE ISSUING CITATIONS AT 13 MILES PER HOUR INSTEAD OF THE 10 MILES PER HOUR.
THIS IS DURING A NON FLASHER ENFORCEMENT TIME, WHICH IS ALL DAY ENFORCEMENT.
OR THEY WOULD DO IF WE DECIDE TO JUST DO JUST DURING SCHOOL TIME, WHICH IS ONE HOUR PER DAY, IT WOULD BE A REVISED SPLIT AS MENTIONED BEFORE.
THE SPLIT BEFORE WOULD BE 65 TO THE CITY, 35 TO REDSPEED.
SHOULD WE DO ONLY AN HOUR ENFORCEMENT, THEY WOULD ENTERTAIN TAKING DOING THE REVERSE SPLIT, 65 TO REDSPEED AND 35 TO THE CITY.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE REGIONAL REACH OF THE PROGRAMS, WELL, THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT REDSPEED HAS A CONTRACT WITH.
THEY HAVE ABOUT 250 SCHOOL ZONE SAFETY CAMERAS INSTALLED THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA, TALKING WITH THE VENDOR.
HE MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE ABOUT 70 MUNICIPALITIES THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH CURRENTLY.
BUT RIGHT NOW, OUR NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES ARE DEERFIELD BEACH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS PLANTATION.
COCONUT CREEK IS MOVING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND LAUDERHILL, I BELIEVE THEY RECENTLY GOT THEIR CONTRACT APPROVED MARCH 31ST.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TONIGHT IS CONSENSUS TO ADOPT A LOCAL ORDINANCE, IDENTIFY PRIOR TO SCHOOL ZONES FOR ENFORCEMENT.
CAPTAIN PALMER COULD PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
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THOSE LOCATIONS AND DEFINE THE ENFORCEMENT PERIODS.DO WE WANT TO ENFORCE FOR ONE HOUR FOR THE DAY OR THE ENTIRE SCHOOL DAY AND THEN ENTER INTO A CONTROL AGREEMENT WITH REDSPEED OR GOING OUT FOR AN RFP. THANK YOU.
I WAS LIVING IT SO I CAN CALL YOU.
>> WHAT'S THE PURPOSE BEHIND THIS PROGRAM EXACTLY?
>> THE SCIENCE BEHIND THIS AND THIS IS COMING FROM THE VENDOR IS THAT YOU WANT TO TRAIN DRIVERS TO SLOW DOWN WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE.
IF YOU'RE GOING FAST AND 10 MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, AND YOU'RE GETTING A TICKET, AND OF COURSE, TOO, BEFORE ALL OF THAT, THERE WAS AN EDUCATION PERIOD OF 30 DAYS TO SELL PEOPLE.
IT'S TO TRAIN PEOPLE FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY.
THE OVERALL GOAL IS TO FACILITATE.
>> THE PURPOSE IS TO TRAIN PEOPLE NOT TO SPEED IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
>> NOT TO SPEED AND, OF COURSE, THE BENEFITS OF, ACCIDENTS, REDUCING ACCIDENTS, FATALITIES.
>> THE PURPOSE THOUGH TO TRAIN PEOPLE NOT TO SPEED IN A SCHOOL ZONE?
>> REALLY, THEN THE CONVERSATION SHOULD BE IF THE PURPOSE IS TO TRAIN PEOPLE NOT TO SPEED IN A SCHOOL ZONE IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO SCHOOL ZONES, THEN IT SHOULD ONLY OCCUR WHEN THE SCHOOL ZONE LIGHTS ARE FLASHING THAT'S NUMBER 1.
>> I'M JUST SAYING THAT WHY I'M PUTTING THAT OUT.
THAT'S MY FIRST STATEMENT BECAUSE THAT'S THE PURPOSE.
IT SHOULD ONLY IF WE VOTE FOR IT, IT SHOULD ONLY OCCUR DURING THAT TIME.
MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS SAID THEY DON'T WANT IT, SO I ALREADY KNOW MY VOTE, IT'S BASED ON WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT.
THEY DON'T WANT IT. I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT.
>> THEN I WENT TO A MEETING WHERE THEY PRESENTED AND TAUGHT US ABOUT THE BILL AND EVERYTHING.
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THAT MEETING, AND I ASKED QUESTIONS, I FORGOT WHICH MEETING, IT'S LATE AND I'M NOT GOING TO THINK TOO HARD, I ASKED QUESTIONS, AND THEY SAID THAT MONEY DOES NOT COME TO THE CITY.
IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU SAID TO LOCAL, ONE SLIDE IT SAYS $60 TO LOCAL MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, AND ANOTHER SLIDE IT SAYS 30 OR $39.
BUT WHAT I HEARD IS IT'S MISREPRESENTED THAT THE MONEY GOES TO THE COUNTY, NOT THE CITY.
>> IF I CAN MAYBE ASK, WAS THAT PRESENTATION IN NORTH LAUDERDALE?
>> WAS THAT PRESENTATION IN THE CITY OF NORTH LAUDERDALE?
>> I THINK THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL SETUP WITH THEIR ROADS THAN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
>> IT WASN'T NORTH LAUDERDALE THAT WAS PRESENTED.
IT WAS, LORD JESUS, DIFFERENT VENDORS.
PEOPLE FROM BROWARD COUNTY SPOKE AS WELL.
>> BUT I THINK THEIR ROADWAYS NEAR THEIR SCHOOLS IF IT'S A COUNTY ROAD OR I THINK IT'S NOT COUNTY ROAD.
>> BUT THE QUESTION WASN'T, BECAUSE I ASKED, IT WASN'T SPECIFIC TO NORTH LAUDERDALE BECAUSE I WOULDN'T ASK ABOUT NORTH LAUDERDALE.
>> I JUST KNOW NORTH LAUDERDALE IS SOMEWHAT SITUATED DIFFERENTLY WITH THIS WHOLE SITUATION THAT THEIR MONEY GETS BROKEN UP DIFFERENTLY.
>> SOME BROWARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER WAS THERE AND THEY AGREED THE MONEY DOES GO TO BROWARD COUNTY.
IT'S BROWARD COUNTY STREETS, SO THEY WOULD GET THE FUNDING.
>> I DON'T THINK IT APPLIES TO COMMERCIAL PEOPLE.
>> YEAH, IT'S LATE. I DON'T KNOW.
I'M JUST BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.
EVERY CITY THAT WAS IN THAT ROOM WAS, LIKE, THAT'S OFF THE TABLE.
OUT OF APPROXIMATELY 40 MUNICIPALITY IN BROWARD COUNTY, I GUESS, I'M APPROXIMATING, SOMEBODY CORRECT ME, ONLY FOUR IS GOING ALONG WITH THIS SO THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING.
THE NEXT PAGE. THEN THE STUDY WAS DONE FROM 6:00 A.M. TO 6:00 P.M.
WE JUST WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE TICKETS ALL DAY ON THIS FLASHING LIGHT THING.
>> THAT'S THE PROPOSAL OF THE PIGGYBACK.
>> I'M JUST SAYING THE STUDY WAS DONE.
I KNOW EVERYBODY WANT TO GO HOME, BUT YOU SAID, DO IT NOW, SO WE'RE DOING IT NOW.
>> THE STUDY WAS 6:00 A.M TO 6:00 P.M OF THE VIOLATION.
THAT'S THE PART I'M TALKING ABOUT.
TO ME, IF YOU WANT TO STOP PEOPLE FROM RUNNING FLASHING SCHOOL ZONE LIGHT WHEN IT'S 15 MILES AN HOUR,
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IT SHOULDN'T BE AT 6:00 A.M TO 6:00 P.M BECAUSE NO KID IS IN SCHOOL FOR 12 HOURS.I WOULDN'T MIND YOU BEING IN SCHOOL FOR 12 HOURS, THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. THAT'S A PROBLEM.
THIS ONE CONCERNS ME WITH TAMARACK ELEMENTARY, BECAUSE MOST OF THE COMPLAINT I GET, I'VE NEVER GOTTEN A COMPLAINT ABOUT AND I'VE NEVER SEEN KIDS WALKING ON 80TH, OR PARENTS WALKING THEIR KIDS.
WHAT'S THAT ABOUT? WHY IS THE FLASHING LIGHT THERE? WHEN THE COMPLAINT IS WHERE, CLOSER TO THE WHERE THE SCHOOL ACTUALLY IS. THAT'S CRAZY.
THAT STREET HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY CAUSING THE PROBLEM.
I GET COMPLAINED ABOUT UNIVERSITY, SOUTHGATE, AND WHERE THAT PLAZA IS.
I CAN'T SEE. IF YOU COULD GO TO THIS SLIDE.
>> THAT'S THE RED SPEED PRESENTATION.
>> THAT'S THE RED SPEED STUDY.
>> THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENT.
WELL, ANYWAY, PEOPLE ARE MORE CONCERNED LIKE WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM THAT THE RESIDENTS REALLY HAVE.
WE'RE GOING ALL THE WAY 80TH, WHAT HAS NOTHING TO REALLY DO WITH THE SCHOOL AND PEOPLE WALKING AND TRAFFIC AND SPEEDING BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO STOP PEOPLE FROM SPEEDING WHEN SCHOOL FLASHING LIGHTS ARE ON.
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SCHOOL ZONE ON UNIVERSITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE CROSSOVER.
>> I AGREE. THAT'S WHERE THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM.
>> MY CONCERN WITH THIS PART OF THE STUDY WAS THAT THE MAPPED LOCATIONS OF THE SENSORS ARE WELL NORTH OF THE SCHOOL ZONE.
THE SCHOOL ZONE IS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY ON THE INTERSECTION OF 80TH.
>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION WITH THIS ONE, THE ACCURACY OF IT.
>>IT'S REPRESENTATIVE SPEED. EACH ONE OF THESE HAS IDIOSYNCRASIES.
NO ONE'S HERE. DO YOU HEAR THE TREES FALL? BUT I'M SORRY, IT'S LATE.
I'LL STOP TALKING INSTEAD OF GOING PAGE BY PAGE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THE SAFETY AND THE CONCERNS OF OUR KIDS IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
MILLENNIAL, WHICH IS IN MY DISTRICT, I WALK THERE EVERY MORNING, AND I LIKE SEEING THE FINE WOMEN AND MEN OF BSO OUT THERE PATROLLING.
I DON'T THINK AI CAN NEVER REPLACE THE FINE MEN AND WOMEN OF BSO, BECAUSE HAVING A PHYSICAL PRESENCE IS ALWAYS GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I WAS DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THE STUDY SO WE CAN GET DATA AND FACTS AND COME BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT WE SEE.
IT'S SHOWING US THAT OBVIOUSLY THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT IT.
HOWEVER, I HAVE A PHONE HERE, IT'S CALLED A GOOGLE PHONE.
IT'S NOT AN IPHONE. A GOOGLE PHONE, THE ALGORITHMS ARE VERY PRECISE.
I CAN SWIPE THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, AND IT SHOWS ME CHARMIN.
I STARTED GETTING THESE THINGS ABOUT RED LIGHT CAMERAS IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA, WHERE IT FIRST CAME ABOUT IN 2018, THERE WERE PIONEERS SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERAS.
BECAUSE OF PARKLAND, IT'S CONCERNING SAFETY OF OUR KIDS.
PASSED THE GEORGIA STATE LEGISLATURE, BECAME LAW, AND IT BECAME PART OF THE CITIES.
RECENTLY, THEY HAD A BILL IN THE LEGISLATURE BANNING THESE CAMERAS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? TAXING PEOPLE, REVENUES, UNWANTED TICKETS.
IN MIAMI, THE SHERIFF HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE SCHOOL BUS CAMERAS, WHERE THEY WERE INADVERTENTLY TARGETING, CHARGING PEOPLE WITH THOSE CAMERAS. I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT.
>> IT'S BEEN IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
>> IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA, THEY SAY IT'S A UNNECESSARY TAX.
THE GUY WHO CHAMPIONED THE BILL IN 2018 WAS THE ONE WHO WAS NOW SAYING, LET'S GET RID OF THIS BILL.
LET'S GET RID OF THESE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS BECAUSE IT'S AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS.
I'M SEEING SOME PEOPLE FROM THE PLUM BAY, THAT FINE COMMUNITY THAT I REPRESENT.
I DON'T WANT THEM GETTING INADVERTENT TICKETS.
YOUR DATA SAYS THAT MILLENNIUM. THERE'S NO ISSUES.
BECAUSE EVERY MORNING, THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE FINE WOMEN AND MEN FROM BSO WHO ARE STANDING THERE WITH THEIR SPEED GUNS PATROLLING THE COMMUNITY, AND PEOPLE ARE MUCH AWARE.
I DON'T WANT AI PROTECTING THE KIDS.
I WANT HUMAN BEINGS PROTECTING THE KIDS, AND I DON'T WANT UNNECESSARY TAXES ON THE RESIDENTS. THESE ARE TOUGH TIMES.
TARIFFS ALL OVER, COST OF LIVING, COST OF GAS GOING HIGHER.
NOW TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN IN LIEU OF THAT IT'S SAFETY AND PROTECTION OF OUR KIDS.
BUT READING WHAT HAPPENED IN GEORGIA, READING WHERE THE PIONEERS ARE GOING AND BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT AND SEE THAT THE STATE THAT CHAMPION THIS IS NOW TURNING BACK ON IT GIVES ME THE FORESIGHT AND VISION TO SAY,
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HEY, WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY END UP THERE BECAUSE 2018 IS WHERE THESE GUYS STARTED.I THINK SOME PLACE IN THE BIBLE SAYS IF YOU DON'T HAVE VISION, THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PERISH.
WELL, MY GOOGLE PHONE GIVES ME VISION, AND I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
>> I'M LAUGHING AT YOUR GOOGLE PHONE AND PERISH.
I'M SORRY. AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, TWO O'CLOCK.
I HAVE NO COMMENTS COMING FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON OR COMMISSIONER BOLTON AT THIS TIME.
I ACTUALLY NEVER CARED FOR THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS WHEN WE DID IT IN THE BEGINNING.
TOOK A LOT TO FINALLY SAY, YES, WHEN WE DID THOSE.
I WAS VERY HAPPY WHEN WE DIDN'T CONTINUE.
THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING THING FOR ME FOR DEALING WITH OUR CHILDREN.
COMMERCIAL AND CHALLENGER AREA BY DISCOVERY IS A DANGEROUS AREA.
THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN IN DISTRICT 4, ACTUALLY, WHO, IF IT WAS A SIX TO SIX, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN RUN INTO AND HAD TROUBLE.
HE GOT HIT IN THE USE OF HIS LEGS.
HE'S STILL TRYING TO RECOVER. THIS WAS IN PLAY.
I HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS ABOUT 80TH, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON 80TH.
IT PROBABLY STEMS FROM WHEN THE KIDS ARE COMING FROM THE COMMUNITIES AROUND THERE WALKING TO ACROSS THE STREET TO COME ACROSS ON 78TH.
I'M JUST SAYING, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MYSELF OF WHY THIS WAS THERE.
BECAUSE MY LAW FIRM WAS THERE.
MY OFFICE SPACE WAS RIGHT AT 78TH AND UNIVERSITY, AND ALL THE CARS LINING UP THERE, ABOUT MEDORA.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON 78TH.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON UNIVERSITY WHERE THEY GO IN AND OUT, AND WHEN WE HAVE THE SCHOOL, AND WHEN WE HAVE OUR MULTIPURPOSE, AND THEY'RE COMING IN.
I KNOW THERE'S AN OVERPASS, BUT THERE'S NO PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
I DON'T REALLY ACCEPT THAT EXCUSE THAT WE HAVE AN OVERPASS, SO REALLY DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHERE ARE THEY GOING? THEY'RE NOT GOING THERE. RENAISSANCE MAY HAVE SOME STUFF GOING ON IN 82ND, BUT WE GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ABOUT ALL THE ACCIDENTS HAPPENING ON UNIVERSITY IN 82ND, AND KIDS WANTING TO GO ACROSS THE STREET WHILE THE LIGHTS ARE STILL NOT IN THEIR FAVOR.
IT'S 45 MILES AN HOUR THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SCHOOL ZONE.
BUT WE HAVE ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM SOUTHGATE COMING DOWN UNIVERSITY.
I ACTUALLY HAVE ASKED THE SCHOOL BOARD WHAT CAN BE DONE TO GET THEM TO BE A SCHOOL ZONE, AND THEY GAVE US SOME ANSWERS THAT ARE STILL BEING LOOKED INTO.
I LIKE THIS BECAUSE ADMITTEDLY, WE'RE GETTING ASKED FOR MONEY FROM THE SCHOOLS, AND I FIGURED IF WE WERE DOING THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA, HAVING SOME MONEY THAT WOULD COME FROM THE COUNTY BACK TO US TO HELP OUR SCHOOLS WAS A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
BUT IS THAT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH ALONE TO SAY YES TO THIS? I'M NOT SO SURE.
I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE DATA WE HAVE IS NOT 100% ABLE TO SAY TO US, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE OF THE LOCATIONS AND WHERE THE CURRENT SCHOOL ZONES ARE VERSUS WHERE WE POSSIBLY SHOULD BE PUTTING THESE.
AS I SAID, I'M IN CONFLICT OVER THIS BECAUSE I REALLY THINK IT CAN BENEFIT DEFINITELY AT THE DISCOVERY AREA GOING ON COMMERCIAL, GOING TOWARDS CHALLENGER AND MILLENNIUM.
I THINK IT COULD HELP POSSIBLY SLOW DOWN SOME OF THE SPEEDERS ON 80TH WHERE WE HAVE THE CROSSING GUARDS THERE, BUT WE DO HAVE REALLY GOOD CROSSING GUARDS THERE.
IS THAT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO PUT INTO A PROGRAM AT THIS TIME? I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, YES, AT THIS TIME.
YOU BASICALLY HAVE TWO AND HALF AND TWO QUIET.
THEREFORE, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE CONSENSUS TO BE ABLE TO PASS AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE NOT FORCING ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SPEAK IF THEY DON'T NEED TO SPEAK AT THIS ITEM.
IT'S FOR DISCUSSION ONLY IF THOSE WHO WANT IT.
I'M, LIKE, WEATHER FOR IT OR NOT, YOU DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS HERE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME. CITY MANAGER.
>> WE HEARD YOU, MAYOR. NO CONSENSUS.
>> THERE'S NO CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME.
>> THANK YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR LOOKING INTO IT FOR US.
MOVING SWIFTLY ALONG AT THIS LOVELY HOUR OF 1:42, WE'RE NOW MOVING TO THE DISCUSSION ON 9D,
[9.d Discussion and Consensus on the Colony West Restrictive Covenant to allow for a vote of the residents in order to lift the restriction]
DISCUSSION AND CONSENSUS ON THE COLONY WEST RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO ALLOW FOR A VOTE OF THE RESIDENTS IN ORDER TO LIFT THE RESTRICTION.THIS IS BEING PRESENTED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
PLEASE PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THIS ITEM AND BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
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>> GOOD MORNING. WE ONLY HAVE A FEW HOURS FROM AROUND THE GOLF AT CHAMPIONSHIP GOLF COURSE.
I JUST WANTED TO GET TO THE POINT.
ISSUE A MEMO TO THE CITY COMMISSION BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION GAVE TO THE OFFICE OF CITY ATTORNEY.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE CITY APPROVED A RESTRICTED COVENANT FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP GOLF COURSE AND GLADES GOLF COURSE WHICH RESTRICT THE USE TO GOLF COURSE USE, RECREATIONAL USE, AND GOLF FACILITY.
BASED ON A RECENT SURVEY, THE COMMISSION DIRECTED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO AMEND THE RESTRICTED COVENANT TO ENSURE THAT THE GOLF COURSES WOULD REMAIN 18 HOLE GOLF COURSE IN PERPETUITY.
ALSO, TO ENSURE THAT IF THE COVENANT IS RELEASED, THAT A MAJORITY VOTE MUST COME FROM THE COMMISSION, NOT A SIMPLE MAJORITY, BUT A SUPER MAJORITY.
ADDITIONALLY, THE COMMISSION DIRECTED MY OFFICE TO LOOK AT ALLOWING THE CONSENT OF RESIDENTS TO ALSO RELEASE THE COVENANT.
AFTER RESEARCH AND WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK OFFICE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT TWO POSSIBLE OPTIONS.
ONE OPTION IS A MAIL ONLY REFERENDUM, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY COVER THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THE 400 FEET RADIUS OF THE GOLF COURSE.
BASED ON THE SURVEY PROVIDED BY THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE, THERE'S ABOUT 5,641 HOUSEHOLDS.
BASICALLY, THESE HOUSEHOLDS WOULD BE PART OF THE MAIL ONLY ELECTION, AND THE THRESHOLD AMOUNT THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD REQUIRE TO RELEASE THE COVENANT.
IT COULD BE 100%, BUT I NEED DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COMMISSION.
THE NEXT OPTION IS THE CITYWIDE REFERENDUM BASED ON RESEARCH WITH THE BROWARD COUNTY ELECTION DEPARTMENT.
IN FACT, I DON'T THINK I GAVE YOU THE COST OF THE MAIL ONLY ELECTION.
THE COST BASED ON RESEARCH IS $14,572.29.
>> WITH RESPECT TO THE SECOND OPTION, WHICH IS A CITYWIDE REFERENDUM VOTE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE BASICALLY THE BROWARD COUNTY ELECTION DEPARTMENT TO RUN THE ELECTION, AND THE COST OF THAT ELECTION BASED ON RESEARCH IS $132,831.90.
AGAIN, THE THRESHOLD WITH RESPECT TO A CITYWIDE ELECTION IS UP TO THE COMMISSION.
I COULD BE 80% VOTE CAST 100%.
BUT AGAIN, I'M HERE FOR DIRECTION IN TERMS OF WHICH OPTION IN TERMS OF THE REFERENDUM, OPTION NUMBER ONE IS THE 400-FOOT RADIUS, WHICH WILL CAPTURE 5,641 HOMES.
IN ADDITION, IF THE COMMISSION THRESHOLD FOR THE RELEASE WOULD BE 80% OR MORE OR LESS.
THEN, OPTION 2 IS THE CITYWIDE REFERENDUM AND GAVE YOU ALL THE COSTS AND JUST WAITING FOR DIRECTION TO RESTRICT THE COVENANT TO PRESENT IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH THE OPTION THAT THE COMMISSION SELECT.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION FOR BRINGING THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US, SEEMS LIKE OPTION 1 IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
BUT ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY PUTS THE POWER IN HAND OF THE PEOPLE OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, WHICH IS 505,641 PROPERTIES, WHICH IS 400-FOOT RADIUS.
IF WE CAN DO IT AT A 100% THRESHOLD, REQUIRING AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO VOTE TO LIFT THE COVENANT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE AS MY FIRST OPTION, IN TERMS OF GIVING ABSOLUTE POWER TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO NOT PUTTING A FISCAL BURDEN ON THE CITY. THANKS.
>> WELL, I'M GOING TO COME FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
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I WOULD THINK THAT IT IS MORE EQUITABLE SINCE IT'S TAX DOLLARS FROM THE WHOLE CITY, THAT IT GOES OUT TO A REAL ELECTION.REALITY IS HOW MANY TIMES THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND I THINK THAT GAMES COULD BE PLAYED WITH THE THREE-FOURTH OR THE FOUR-FIFTH SUPER MAJORITY, AND I THINK WHEN IT GOES TO A REAL ELECTION VERSUS A SURVEY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BETTER RESPONSE AND IT BRINGS PEOPLE OUT.
FOR ME, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A SUFFICIENT ONE, 400 RADIUS.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IF 400 RADIUS, YOU'VE GOT HALF OF CONCORD VILLAGE AND THE OTHER HALF OF IT DOESN'T GET A CHANCE TO HAVE A SAY OR [INAUDIBLE] GARDENS WHEN YOU DO THE CIRCLE? YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE COMMUNITIES TO GET 28 COMMUNITIES AROUND THE GOLF COURSES.
YOU'RE SHUTTING OUT SOMEBODY WHO WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY IF YOU ONLY DO IT THIS WAY.
BUT IF YOU DO IT FOR A WHOLE CITYWIDE, IT IS WHERE EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR YOUR COMMISSION CAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY TIME SOON THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
I'M PRESUMING IT'S A LONG TIME, SO YOU ALL DID YOUR THREE TERMS AND THEN SOME THAT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE, AND THEN BASICALLY, I COMPLETELY LOST MY CHAIN.
OUGHT I'M SO TIRED. BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S EQUITABLE, AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO OUT TO EVERYBODY.
BUT WHAT I WAS SAYING ACTUALLY WAS, FOUR-FIFTHS, IF YOU HAVE THE ELECTION GO OUT AND TELL US WHAT'S GOING TO COME BACK, THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.
THE VOICE AND THE POWER IS ACTUALLY IN THE VOTE.
IT IS NOT IN THE POWER OF THE COMMISSION AT ALL.
IT'S IN THE POWER OF THE VOTE, AND I'D RATHER PUT THE POWER TO THE VOTE.
MY OPINION. ANYBODY ELSE WISHES TO EXPRESS AN OPINION TONIGHT? COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
>> I THINK IT'S EASY TO GET 74% OF THE VOTES. I DID IT.
>> IT'S HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO GET 74% OF THE VOTES, BUT I DID MY FIRST TERM.
IF IT WASN'T FOR SOME RED TRUCKS, I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY GOTTEN 80 THE NEXT TIME, OR FOR SOME RESIDENTS WEARING THE WRONG SHIRT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT PUTTING THIS OUT TO THE ENTIRE CITY IS THE RIGHT CHOICE.
SOMEBODY THAT LIVES FAR AWAY FROM THE PROJECT IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO SAY, I DON'T CARE AND SOME VOTERS THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GO IN THERE AND MARK, YES, YES, YES, ON EVER QUESTION AND SOME VOTERS IS GOING TO GO VOTE, NO, NO, NO, NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND EVEN WITH THE EDUCATION THAT YOU PROVIDE, THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE DEVELOPMENT ARE THE STAKEHOLDERS.
THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AT STAKE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
IF THE VOTE GOES OUT TO PEOPLE IN A 400-FOOT RADIUS, THEN THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE.
THIS IS WHAT IS AT STAKE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
I WOULD SUPPORT THAT 400-FEET RADIUS.
ALSO, 100% OF THE COMMUNITY, ABSOLUTELY.
HOW MANY TIMES DOES A POLITICIAN GO AND KNOCK ON A DOOR AND WIN SOMEBODY'S VOTE? A LOT OF TIMES.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON DID IT.
LADY TONIGHT SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS, BUT I SUPPORTED HER, AND SHE TURNED OUT TO BE A FINE YOUNG LADY.
SOMEBODY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY EIGHT YEARS AGO, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO I AM, THEY KNEW WHO PAM BUSHNO WAS.
NOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT THE POWER INTO 100% OF THE RESIDENTS'.
HAND. THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT COMMENT IS, LISTEN ONE PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY CAN SAY I DON'T WANT THIS, AND IT WILL NEVER PASS.
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JUST THINK ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHAT 100% MEANS.BY US SAYING 100% TONIGHT, WE'RE SEEING YOU, YOU, YOU, OR YOU HOLD THAT POWER.
YOU CAN SAY, I'M NOT REMOVING THE COVENANT.
BECAUSE YOU IN YOUR SOLE DISCRETION, SAY, I'M NOT REMOVING THE COVENANT, IT NEVER IS REMOVED.
THAT'S WHAT 100% IS GIVEN TO YOU.
IF WE SAY 80%, IT MEANS THAT ALL FOUR OF YOU DON'T HAVE THE POWER, BECAUSE FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT HERE TONIGHT THAT DID NOT TOIL ALL NIGHT TO STAY UNTIL 2:00 IN THE MORNING, THEY MAY NOT CARE.
YOU GUYS CARE. BY VOTING 100% TONIGHT, WE'RE SAYING TO YOU, WE'RE DELEGATING THAT POWER TO ONE PERSON.
IF ONE PERSON SAYS, NO, I DON'T WANT IT, IT STAYS THE WAY IT IS.
THAT MAKES YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT, KNOWING THAT THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR THAT DOES NOT LIKE YOU CAN'T JUST ARBITRARILY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME JOIN THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DID NOT COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING THAT NIGHT, 80%, AND BAM HAS CHANGED.
100% GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
I'M FOR 100%, AND I'M FOR 400-FEET RADIUS.
I'M ALSO CHANGING MY TUNE FROM FOUR-FIFTHS OF THE VOTE TO A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE COMMISSION.
IT WOULD TAKE FIVE PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION TO REMOVE IT, 400 FEET AND 100% OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE YOU GO.
>> CITY ATTORNEY, WHEN YOU DID YOUR 400 FEET BECAUSE WE HAVE NO GRAPH, DID YOU MAKE SURE THAT IT DIDN'T CUT ANY COMMUNITIES?
>> DID YOU MAKE SURE IT DID NOT CUT ANY COMMUNITIES?
>> THAT SURVEY WAS DONE BY A COMPANY THAT CITY MANAGER AND THAT'S THE INFORMATION I GOT FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
>> SO THE ANSWER IS, WE DON'T KNOW IF 400 FEET CUTS INTO ANY OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE AROUND THE GOLF COURSE?
>> THIS 400 FEET WAS BASED ON THE SAME 400 FEET THAT WE USE FOR A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT DEVELOPERS USE OR THE CITY USE.
THAT'S THE SAME METHOD WE USE.
WHICHEVER HOMES WITHIN THAT 400 FEET RADIUS, I BELIEVE, WAS CAPTURED.
>> THAT STILL DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION BECAUSE THE REALITY IS ON A 400 FEET RADIUS FOR A DRIVEWAY OR A DEVELOPMENT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BY SAYING WHETHER PEOPLE OR NOT, IF I'M IN UNIT 115, AND YOU'RE IN UNIT 114, YOU GET TO SAY AND I DON'T IN 115, AND I'M RIGHT THERE.
MISS CALLOWAY, DO YOU KNOW IF ANY?
>> IT DID CUT INTO SOME COMMUNITIES.
WE CAN SEND YOU THE MAP, BUT IT DID CUT INTO SOME COMMUNITIES.
>> AND THIS IS THE SAME METHOD USED WITH A ZONE?
>> IT IS THE SAME METHOD. IT PICKED UP ALL THE ADDRESSES THAT ARE WITHIN THE 400 FEET.
>> I'M NOT SO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS SO RESTRICTIVE AND DOESN'T GIVE ABILITIES FOR ANY POSITIVE GROWTH OR CHANGE THAT MAYBE SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OR THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME WANTS.
I'M JUST THINKING OF LAUDERHILL AND THE JACKIE GLEASON GOLF COURSE AND SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE SO TIGHT, WHICH IS WHY THAT COMMUNITY HAD A FALLOW GOLF COURSE FOR WHAT, 20 YEARS NOW? THING'S DILAPIDATED, BUGS, IT'S NASTY, AND THEY CAN'T DO A THING BECAUSE THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME MADE IT SO RESTRICTIVE THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN BREATHE AND MOVE TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE ONE PERSON WHO WON'T AGREE.
NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE RESTRICTIONS.
I THOUGHT THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WE DID LAST TIME WERE NOT STRONG ENOUGH.
I'VE TOLD YOU THAT. I HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THERE.
BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM BEING SO TO ONE SIDE THAT WE ARE POSSIBLY STRANGLE-HOLDING YOUR COMMUNITIES AND THE CITY FROM ANY ADVANCEMENT IN THE FUTURE.
BY THINKING WE'RE DOING A GOOD SERVICE TO YOU BECAUSE IT SOUNDS GOOD FOR POLITICAL REASONS.
I CAN'T SUPPORT 100, AND I CAN'T SUPPORT CUTTING A COMMUNITY IN HALF,
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AND I'VE SAID MY PIECE.I THINK THAT THIS IS CITY DOLLARS THAT'S GOING FOR EVERYTHING.
IT'S CITY DOLLARS TO MAINTAIN THAT COURSE.
IT'S CITY DOLLARS THAT BOUGHT THAT COURSE, AND IT'S WITH THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY THAT THE RESTRICTION COVENANTS ARE IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S PROTECTIONS FOR THAT GOLF COURSE.
ANYWAY, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M READY TO GO, BUT I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT WHATEVER IT IS THAT I THINK THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER IS INTERESTED IN, I WILL SUPPORT.
I DO THINK THAT 400 FEET IS APPROPRIATE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A CITYWIDE VOTE.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE THAT IF YOU LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, YOU'RE MOST IMPACTED, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MOST VESTED, AND YOU WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD GET OUT AND VOTE.
WITH THAT SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD BE GOOD WITH 100% OF THE VOTE.
I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF TURNOVER, IF YOU WANT TO SELL YOUR PROPERTY OR THERE'S TURNOVER IN THE COMMUNITY AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER, I THINK THAT THERE IS MAYBE SHOULD BE SOME ROOM FOR DEMOCRACY IN THIS TO SOME DEGREE.
BUT AGAIN, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER THINKS IS APPROPRIATE FOR HIS AREA.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WANT OR THE DISTRICT OR THE COMMUNITY WANTS, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY WANT.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, THOUGH. THANK YOU.
I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR REGARDING IF IT'S A CITY FACILITY, IT REALLY SHOULD BE A CITYWIDE DECISION TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
I KNOW IF THERE'S A CHANGE AND YOU LIVE OFF THE GOLF COURSE, IT WOULD IMPACT YOU.
BUT THERE IS A PART OF ME THAT SAY IF EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC IS PAYING TOWARDS THE MAINTENANCE OR PAID FOR THIS GOLF COURSE, SO EVERY RESIDENT SHOULD TECHNICALLY HAVE A VOICE.
HOWEVER, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE GOLF COURSE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A STRONGER VOICE BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THEM, BUT I DO BELIEVE IF IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY, THEN EVERY RESIDENT SHOULD HAVE A VOICE IN SOME FORM OR MANNER.
NOW, HOW THAT PLAYS OUT, I DON'T KNOW IT'S 2:00 A.M. I DON'T KNOW.
SOMEHOW CAN EVERY RESIDENT HAVE A VOICE, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED THE MOST HAVE A STRONGER VOICE.
THAT'S HOW I SEE AS THE BALANCING ACT.
HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN? I DON'T KNOW.
>> WHY CAN'T IT HAPPEN? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE NOT THE ATTORNEY.
CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE, SIR?
>> I THINK THERE'S A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH WITH THIS FIRST.
I THINK THERE'S THE CONSENT OF THE COMMISSION, WHICH BASICALLY REQUIRE EITHER A UNANIMOUS SUPERMAJORITY, DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CONSENSUS IS.
THAT COMMISSION IS REFLECTED OF THE ENTIRE CITY.
COULD YOU START OVER IN LAYMAN TERMS CAUSE IT'S LATE.
>> YOU INDICATED THAT YOU WANT THE ENTIRE CITY TO HAVE A VOICE, AND ALSO THE RESIDENTS WERE IMPACTED, CORRECT?
>> I SAID, THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IMPACTED TO HAVE A STRONGER VOICE.
>> WELL, THAT'S IN ESSENCE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IF YOU'RE REQUIRING A TWO-PRONG RELEASE MECHANISM, ONE THAT THE COMMISSION MUST APPROVE BY UNANIMOUS OR MAJORITY VOTE, THEN THE COMMISSION TECHNICALLY IS EFFECTIVE THE ENTIRE CITY.
NOW, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THE VOTE OF THE IMPACTED RESIDENTS AS THE 400 FEET RADIUS.
RIGHT NOW BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING IS, A 100% THRESHOLD WOULD BE WHAT THE DIRECTION I'M GETTING.
THIS APPROACH, VICE MAYOR, YOU WOULD HAVE THE COMMISSION IS REFLECTIVE OF THE VOICE OF THE ENTIRE CITY WHEREAS
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THE VOTE OF THE 400 FEET IS REFLECTIVE OF THE VOICE OF THE IMPACTED RESIDENTS.>> IT'S LATE, BUT FOR SOME REASON, THAT MADE SENSE. I DON'T KNOW WHY.
>> BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COMMISSION CAN VOTE WHICHEVER WAY THEY FEEL.
BUT YOU HAVE DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS, AND YOU HAVE A MAYOR WHO'S CUT A CITY-WIDE, SO IT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE ENTIRE CITY.
>> WANT A CLARIFICATION, IF I MAY.
IF THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE VOICE TO SAY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHY, AT ANY POINT, IS THE COMMISSION APPROVING IT OR NOT APPROVING IT? IT'S THE VOTE AND THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE, EITHER THROUGH THE 400 RADIUS, AND IS WHAT THEY WANT OR NOT. WHY ARE WE INVOLVED? WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THEY SAY IF WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT FOR THIS VOTE.
WE DON'T GET THE OPTION TO JUST SAY, WELL, YOU ALL WANT IT, WE'VE GOT 100% OF YOU.
WE SAY NO, THAT YOU WANT IT, AND WE SAY NO. HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> THIS IS A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH.
THE COMMISSION VOTE ALSO IS PART OF THE PROCESS.
THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE IT BY EITHER UNANIMOUS VOTE OR SUPERMAJORITY.
THEN THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IMPACTED HAS A VOICE TOO.
>> BUT WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE VOICE.
IF THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF ALL THIS IS TO TRULY SAY TO THE RESIDENTS, WE'RE GIVING YOU THE VOICE TO TELL US WHAT TO DO IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE BOTH 18-HOLE GOLF COURSES TO WHATEVER.
>> BUT, MAYOR, INITIALLY, THE VOICE WAS ONLY THE COMMISSION.
THE COVENANT ONLY HAD THE RELEASE MECHANISM IN THE COMMISSION'S HAND.
WHAT WE'LL PUT NOW BASED ON THE INSURANCE THAT THE RELEASE WOULD BE NOT ONLY IN THE HANDS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT IT WOULD BE IN THE HANDS OF THE RESIDENTS' IMPACT.
>> BUT MY CONFUSION IS IF WE GET 80%, 90%, 100% FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS OR DOESN'T WANT.
THEN WHERE ARE WE COMING ABOUT TO NOT DO WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT OR DON'T WANT? BECAUSE ARE WE NOW GOING TO SAY, THERE'S FOUR OF US OR FIVE OF US THAT SAY, FORGET WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE WANT. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE?
>> WELL, THE PURPOSE IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.
THEY WANT TO KEEP THIS GOLF COURSE IN PATRITITY AS 18-HOLE GOLF COURSE AND THE MORE RESTRICTIVE YOU HAVE, IT WILL STAYS THAT WAY.
>> BUT THEN WHY BOTHER ASKING THE COMMUNITY IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO CHANGE AND DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO? BECAUSE IF THEY WANT IT AND WE DON'T, THEN A NEGATIVE AND A POSITIVE EQUALS A NEGATIVE.
THE ONLY WAY TO GET BOTH POSITIVE IS IF WE WANT IT AND THEY WANT IT.
WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM THE POWER.
WE'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN EVEN TAKE IT AWAY.
>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY DO THIS, BUT ALSO ADD A STIPULATION THAT A SURVEY BE GIVEN CITYWIDE TO JUST HEAR WHAT THE CITY HAVE TO SAY CAUSE MAYBE EVERYBODY WANTS A GOLF COURSE.
>> WE'RE DOING THIS. I THINK THERE WAS A SURVEY.
>> BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THIS AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE MAKING STRONGER.
MY THING IS, HOW DO YOU GET THE VOICE OF CITYWIDE STILL INVOLVED? NOT THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE, BUT JUST TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY IN THE MIDST OF THIS.
BECAUSE TRULY, IF 100% SAY THEY DON'T WANT WHATEVER, I'M GOING TO GO WHAT 100% SAY.
I'M GOING TO GO WHATEVER YOU SAY THE PEOPLE SAY.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST THEM.
I'M NOT CRAZY. HOW WOULD THE VOICE OF THE CITY BE HEARD IN THE MIDST OF THIS?
>> WELL, AGAIN, THIS COMMISSION CAN MAKE A DECISION.
>> NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST THEM, SO DON'T SAY THAT.
>> WE SHOULD HAVE PUT THIS SOME ANOTHER TIME. I'M SORRY.
VICE MAYOR, IS THIS A MOTION TO TABLE TO ANOTHER TIME TO FINISH THIS DISCUSSION AND MAYBE THEN HAVE A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE THAT'S ACTUALLY IN PLACE AND THE SURVEY?
>> I WILL BRING THE ORDINANCE IN THE COMMISSION TO MOVE ON. [OVERLAPPING].
>> MR. COMMISSIONER WANTS AT THIS TIME.
>> NO, WE'RE HERE, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE CONSENSUS.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, MYSELF, AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON AGREED.
I THINK THE CLARIFICATION IS, I NEED CLARIFICATION THAT AS WELL.
IF THE RESIDENTS 100% VOTE, WHY DOES THE COMMISSION INVOLVED BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE HANDS OF THE RESIDENTS.
BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS CAN VOTE AND WE CAN COME BACK TO A COMMISSION.
FIVE PEOPLE CAN BE UNDER THIS COMMISSION, WHO MIGHT SAY, THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT.
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I THINK IF THE RESIDENTS DON'T COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION.IT COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE.
DO YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE RESTRICTION OR NOT? FIVE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY, YES, I WANT TO REMOVE THE RESTRICTION AND THEN YOU GO TO THE COMMUNITY.
>> COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS EXPLAIN.
I MEAN, HE'S A BRILLIANT ADULT SHOULD BE TO LAW SCHOOL.
SHOULD BE A PET HARVARD LAW. I MEAN, THAT WE JUST EXPLAIN IT.
>> ONE DAY. IF IT COMES BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE QUESTION IS ASKED, DO YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE RESTRICTION? FIVE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY, I WANT TO REMOVE THE RESTRICTION.
>> THEN IT GOES TO THE PEOPLE.
>> THEN IT GOES TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT NEEDS 100% OF THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, WE WANT TO REMOVE THE RESTRICTION.
THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE THE RESTRICTION.
>> NOW, IF YOU MAKE IT CITYWIDE, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, IF A DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME IN AND DEVELOP THAT GOLF COURSE, THEY'RE GOING TO POUR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN AN ELECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ITEM PASSES IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IN THE PAST, FOR INSTANCE, KINGS POINT, WITH ALL THEIR DENSITY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY MANIPULATED ELECTIONS, BUT THEY CONTROLLED ELECTIONS.
IF KINGS POINT COMES OUT AND VOTES IN ITS GLORY, EVEN IF THE 400 HOMES OR WHATEVER HOMES VOTE, WE DON'T WANT IT, IT STILL PASSES.
BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A STAKE IN A CITYWIDE ELECTION WILL ALWAYS VOTE WITH THE MAILER THAT THEY SEE AT THEIR HOUSE.
WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMUNITIES NEED TO PRESERVE THE GREEN SPACE, THE GOLF COURSE AS IS.
BUT THE THING THAT I WANT TO CAUTION YOU WITH IS THAT, 40 YEARS FROM NOW, 50 YEARS FROM NOW, THINGS MAY CHANGE.
MY SUGGESTION TO YOU IS PLACE WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS YOU WANT TO PUT IN.
BUT PUT A TIME FRAME, LET SAY THAT, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEED RESTRICTIONS, THESE WOULD EXPIRE OR NEEDS TO BE RECONSIDERED 40 YEARS FROM NOW, 35 YEARS FROM NOW, AS THE COMMUNITY MAY CHANGE AT THAT TIME, AND THEN SO THAT THERE IS AN OPTION OR OPPORTUNITY TO RECONSIDER THE POSSIBILITIES AT THAT TIME.
>> YOU CAN ALSO PUT THE SAME STIPULATION FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE ALSO PASS BY.
>> LET'S TAKE GOING BACK TO WHAT COMMISSION BOLTON.
IT'S PRETTY TO HAVE A CHARTER CHANGE IS TWO WAYS.
>> YOU ALREADY HAVE CONSENSUS ON 100%, I AGREE WITH FIVE STORE.
>> WELL, THIS IS COMING BACK IN AN ORDINANCE FOR US TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS.
>> A RESOLUTION TO CHANGE THE COVENANT?
>> I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU PRESENT US WITH THE ACTUAL FULL ORDINANCE, THE CHANGE THE MAP.
>> THE PAST RESOLUTION WAS IT RECORDED? THE COVENANT WAS RECORDED.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK?
>> CORRECT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FULL COMPLETE PICTURE HERE.
>> AT THAT TIME, THERE COULD BE FURTHER DISCUSSION IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A DESIRE FOR A TIME FRAME IF IT GOES TO BE CHANGED BY ANY CHANCE TO CITYWIDE WHERE YOU CAN STILL HAVE AN 80% OR A 90%.
>> NO BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING INCORRECTLY.
WE'RE NOT ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BRING BACK, NO.
>> I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF SPEAKING COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD YOUR WATER.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THIS CONVERSATION COMES BACK AGAIN AT ANOTHER COMMISSION MEETING, AND IF ANYBODY WISHES TO BRING UP ANY COMMENTS, WE CAN BRING THEM UP THEN.
YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US A FULL PRESENTATION ON IT.
I'M TALKING TO CITY ATTORNEY AND I'M ASKING YOU FOR HIS ANSWER.
>> COMING BACK AS ANY OTHER RESOLUTION WILL BE PRESENTED WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT WAS CONSENT.
>> I KNOW. BUT CITY ATTORNEY, IT'S VERY HARD FOR US TO GO THROUGH A MEMO THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE ORDINANCE OR THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO ON THERE IN OUR BACKUP.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK.
>> MAYOR, IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED.
>> IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED. RESOLUTION BASICALLY APPROVE.
ALL IT DID WAS BASICALLY PROVIDE THAT THE GOLF COURSES ARE RESTRICTED TO RECREATIONAL USE,
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GOLF COURSE USE, AND CULTURE FACILITY THAT'S WHAT IT SAID.NO, IT HAD A TIME OF THE ABILITY TO PLAY GOLF ON IT. IT DID.
IT'S A VERY SIMPLE THING, AS YOU SAID.
WHEN YOU BRING THE RESOLUTION BACK TO US, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A RED LINE, AND WE HAVE THE WHOLE THING IN FRONT OF US.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
>> WE DON'T NEED YOU TO SAY ANYTHING FURTHER.
>> I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF MY STATEMENT. HOLD YOUR WATER.
IT SHOULDN'T BE COMING BACK WITH PLEASE BRING AN OPTION FOR 40 YEARS OR THE SAME THING IS HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF LAUDERHILL NOW.
YEARS AGO, RESTRICTIONS WERE PLACED ON A GOLF COURSE, AND NOW THAT RESTRICTION IS EXPIRED, AND A DEVELOPER WANTS TO DEVELOP ON THAT LAND.
IT IS ABOUT THE YOUNG RESIDENTS WHO ARE COMING UP IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
>> THE POINT BEING, IT WASN'T SAID THAT IT WAS GOING TO COME BACK WITH OPTIONS.
THE POINT WAS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AGAIN AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S ALL IT IS. IT'S COMING BACK AT WHATEVER MEETING YOU CAN GET IT TO COME BACK WITH.
AT THIS TIME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,.
[11. COMMISSION REPORTS]
>> YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRING BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
>> WE'RE NOW UP TO COMMISSION REPORTS, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, THIS ITEM WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, DISTRICT 1.
YOU HAVE YOUR 5 MINUTES FOR YOUR REPORT.
>> AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHEN IT COMES UP FOR RESOLUTION, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR ABILITY TO HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BACKUP, SO YOU COULD HAVE REVIEWED IT, AND YOU COULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING AT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION EARLIER, BUT IT WASN'T.
NOW YOU'LL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING AT PUBLIC WHEN IT COMES BACK FOR RESOLUTION.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, DISTRICT 1, YOUR REPORT.
>> YOU SAID YOU HAVE A REPORT?
>> I'LL ONLY DO ONE. ON JUNE 29TH, I BELIEVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SENIOR EXPO.
IF YOU'RE A SENIOR, THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SEE, WE'LL HAVE UPDATES.
IT'S FUNNY SOMEONE ASKED THAT AND WE HAD TO SEND OUR UPDATES FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SEE, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO HAVE, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY EMAIL, KICIA.DANIELA@TAMARAC.ORG.
WE'LL HAVE THE TIME TO GET YOUR WISHES PLACED FOR THAT EVENT. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY REPORT IS VERY SIMPLE.
I'LL LEAVE OUT A BUNCH OF STUFF, BUT CONGRATULATIONS TO TIME OUR FIRE RESCUE FOR ITS BEING REACCREDITED LAST WEEK.
FIVE MORE YEARS, WONDERFUL, AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
HAPPY EASTER, HAPPY PASSOVER, HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 2:16.
WE HAVE NOT HIT THE RECORD YET, BUT 2:16, GO HOME.
BE SAFE. WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.