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FEBRUARY 12TH COMMISSION MEETING. AND IT IS 7:02.CITY ASSISTANT, CITY CLERK. WELCOME. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR GOMEZ. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. GOOD EVENING, VICE MAYOR DANIELS.
THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY, YOUR REPORT.
NO REPORT, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER.
[2. CITY MANAGER REPORT ]
I KNOW WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION, AND I'M IS MY UNDERSTANDING.IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THEN PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR REPORT.
OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
WELCOME TO CITY OF TAMARAC. I WANT TO START BY CONGRATULATING OUR TAMARAC ENTREPRENEURS, THE CITY OF TAMARAC PARTNERED WITH BROWARD COLLEGE'S BCEX TO SUPPORT LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS THROUGH A FIVE WEEK SMALL BUSINESS BOOTCAMP.
THEY WILL BE RECOGNIZED AT AN UPCOMING COMMISSION MEETING.
WE'RE PROUD TO CHAMPION LOCAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND STRENGTHEN TAMARAC'S THRIVING BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AS YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN WE RENEWED OUR OUR COMMITMENT OR PARTNERSHIP WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR FOR THE CITY'S SOLID WASTE SERVICES. AND SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME MORE INFORMATION.
STAY CONNECTED WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. AND YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED OUR RESIDENTS.
YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED A POSTCARD FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT.
SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU TAKE A MOMENT TO LOG IN AND SET UP YOUR ACCOUNT BY SCANNING THE QR CODE ON THE POSTCARD, OR JUST REGISTER ONLINE AT. TAMARAC. AND WE NEED YOU TO SIGN UP, OR WE WANT YOU TO SIGN UP SO THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO VIEW THE SCHEDULES, ACCESS SERVICE INFORMATION, RECEIVE WEATHER ALERTS, REPORT MISSED PICKUPS, AND REQUEST CONTAINER REPLACEMENTS.
SO IT'S A GREAT WAY TO CONNECT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
AND, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW WHATEVER WHATEVER YOU NEED.
AND WE HAD TAMARAC ONE TAMARAC EVENT OVER THE WEEKEND, SATURDAY. AND THE MULTICULTURAL CULTURAL CELEBRATION WAS A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS.
LAST WEEKEND WE DREW OVER 3000 ATTENDEES AND EARNING GREAT REVIEWS WITH 18 FOOD VENDORS, 37 TENT VENDORS, AND STUNNING LIGHT SHOW AND A DYNAMIC LINEUP OF PERFORMERS.
IT WAS TRULY AN UNFORGETTABLE EXPERIENCE. WE WANT TO THANK OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM AND PUBLIC PUBLIC SERVICES TEAM, AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE PREPARATION OF THIS TEAM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO BE EMPHASIZING TONIGHT AND EVERY OTHER COMMISSION MEETING, IS THAT WE DO WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO COME TO THESE EVENTS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT THAT'S GOING INTO THESE EVENTS.
AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAVE A MUCH BIGGER CROWD THAN THAN WE HAD LAST WEEKEND'S CELEBRATION.
AND SO HERE'S YOUR CHANCE. WE HAVE TWO NEW EVENTS COMING UP.
GROOVE ON THE GRASS CONCERT ON MARCH 7TH AT CAPRAROLA PARK 7 TO 9 P.M.
AND MOVIE IN THE PARK MARCH 14TH AT TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX STARTING AT 6:30 P.M..
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ON A SIMILAR NOTE OR ANOTHER NOTE, CITY FACILITIES WILL BE CLOSED ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 17TH IN OBSERVATION OF PRESIDENTS DAY.AS I SAY ALL THE TIME, PLEASE FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE FOR ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT THESE KINDS OF EVENTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN TAMARAC. THE COMMUNITY SURVEY IS NOW OPEN, AND YOUR INPUT IS ESSENTIAL IN SHAPING THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE CITY'S GOLF COURSE. WE TRULY HOPE THAT YOU CAN COMPLETE THE SURVEY ONLINE OR BY SCANNING THE QR CODE ON THE SCREEN, OR AND JOIN US FOR A Q&A WORKSHOP AT CALHOUN WEST ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH 26 FROM 6 TO 8 P.M.
TO TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING TO TO INCLUDE IN THE RENOVATION OF THE GLADES GOLF COURSE. AND OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING IS GOING TO BE ON FEBRUARY 26TH.
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH AT 9:30 A.M.. AND WE'RE EXTREMELY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT DURING THIS MEETING, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING AND RECOGNIZING THE NOMINEES.
JUST BEFORE THE COMMISSION MEETING ON THAT DAY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[3.PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ]
BUT THE GENERAL STANDARD IS YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES OR YOUR THREE MINUTES ALONE CANNOT BE SHARED WITH OTHERS.PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE.
IF NOT, PLEASE STATE THE AREA IN WHICH YOU LIVE AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING.
IF YOU'RE HAPPY, JUST KIND OF GO LIKE THIS. IF YOU'RE SAD, YOU CAN GO LIKE THIS. BUT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING VOCAL THAT WILL INTIMIDATE OR MAKE SOMEBODY ELSE FEEL BAD FOR HOW THEY FEEL, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS ENTITLED TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS.
SO I WILL GO DOWN THIS LIST AND IF YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED UP, THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
I'LL CALL OUT AND ASK IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK. THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST. AND AT THIS TIME, IT'S FOR ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR PUBLIC CONSENT AGENDA OR ANYTHING ON OTHER.
SO THOSE ARE THE TIME. THIS IS THE TIME WHEN YOU CAN SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS. SO I WILL CALL THE FIRST PERSON AND THE NEXT PERSON WILL BE ON DECK.
EILEEN LIEBERMAN MICHAELSON IS COMING UP. AND THEN I HAVE CAROL MENDELSOHN, I BELIEVE ROBERT THOMPSON 17A GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSION. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM SIX B, WHICH IS ON FIRST READING, AND YOU DON'T OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. WE DO OWE YOU OPEN ON FIRST READING.
FIRST READING. WE OPENED UP LAST. OKAY, I'LL SEE YOU.
AT FIRST READING THAT WAS VERY EASY. OH, EXCELLENT.
WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP THEN. CAROL MENDELSOHN IS COMING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I HAVE SHARON SPRING ON DECK. CAROL MENDELSOHN. WOODMONT. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I STAND BEFORE YOU WITH A NEW TITLE I WEAR PROUDLY.
I'M ONE OF THE TAMARAC FIVE. ON BEHALF OF THE CONSTITUENTS OF TAMARAC, I SPEAK NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF, BUT FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT FEEL ABLE TO DO SO THEMSELVES.
THE TAMARAC FIVE SPEAK OUT ON IMPORTANT ISSUES, QUESTION DECISIONS, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND ARE UNJUSTLY CONVICTED OF BEING TROUBLEMAKERS.
THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS COMPLAIN, YET WHO ARE INNOCENT AS IT IS OUR RIGHT TO SPEAK OUT.
OUR VOICE IS ALWAYS TO MAKE THIS CITY BETTER AND TO SPEAK FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT.
I KNOW THIS IS AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY, YOU HEAR, BUT YOU DO NOT LISTEN.
SOME OF YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR GOMEZ AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT FOR LISTENING.
YOU SPEND THE TAXPAYER'S HARD EARNED DOLLARS AT WILL.
EXAMPLE ADDITIONAL AIDS ON TOP OF YOUR SALARIES, DISCRETIONARY FUNDS AND MORE.
YET, EQUITY AND SALARIES HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.
BUDGET TRANSPARENCY. NOR HAS THE WATER BILL PROBLEM.
PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING BEEN FIXED SOMEHOW.
I THINK IF YOU RECEIVED AN OUTRAGEOUS WATER BILL, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED EXPEDITIOUSLY.
WHEN I QUESTIONED THE AVAILABILITY OF AN APP THREE YEARS AGO TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO CHECK THEIR WATER USAGE THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, I WAS TOLD IT WAS TOO COSTLY. YET YOU WISH TO PURCHASE 12 TO 15 ADDITIONAL AIDS.
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HOWEVER, I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THIS ISSUE.AGAIN, YOU HEAR, BUT YOU DO NOT LISTEN. ON A DIFFERENT NOTE.
THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY EVENT BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS OUTSTANDING.
THE HARD WORK OF FORMER COMMISSIONER DEBORAH PLACKO CELEBRATED, AND THE NEW FIRE TRUCK.
THAT TOOK THREE YEARS OF MY VIGILANT PURSUIT TO GET FOR DISTRICT FOUR.
NOW, DISTRICT FOUR RESIDENTS CAN FEEL MUCH SAFER KNOWING THE MUCH NEEDED EQUIPMENT IS THERE.
OUR FIREFIGHTERS NO LONGER HAVE TO COME FROM STATION FURTHER AWAY TO FIGHT A FIRE AND SAVE LIVES.
SO THE LONG AND VIGILANT PURSUIT OF THE FIRE TRUCK FOR THE SAFETY OF DISTRICT FOUR WAS A SUCCESS.
WE HAVE THE BEST FIREFIGHTERS. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
THE EVENT WAS STUPENDOUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AS SHARON SPRING IS COMING UP, I HAVE CANDACE WEST COMING UP NEXT.
MY NAME IS SHARON SPRING. I LIVE IN EXETER WEST.
AS A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, I MUST SAY THAT I AM VERY DISMAYED.
WHEN I WORKED HERE, THERE WERE SPECIFIC RULINGS IN PLACE AS TO RESPONSE.
I THINK THAT THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO REALIZE THAT WE ELECTED YOU, BUT YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO US.
I'VE SENT AN EMAIL TO MY COMMISSIONER. IT'S BEEN OVER A WEEK NOW.
NO RESPONSE. WE KEEP GETTING ADDITIONAL HEARING ABOUT ADDITIONAL HELP TO HELP YOU RESPOND TO THINGS.
I THINK A WEEK IS MORE THAN REASONABLE TO EXPECT.
I'M LOOKING AT IT. I'M WORKING ON IT. I'M NOT GOING TO ADDRESS IT, BUT NOTHING.
MY PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER, ELVIN, WAS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
HE WAS AT KINGS POINT. HE WAS RESPONSIVE. HE POSTED ON NEXT DOOR.
HE LET US KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. HE POSTED ON FACEBOOK.
HE WAS ACCESSIBLE. IN MY OPINION, YOUR COMMISSIONERS ALL NEED TO BE ACCESSIBLE THE SAME WAY YOU TOOK THE OATH TO TO SUPPORT US, TO REPRESENT US. AND I FEEL THAT YOU'RE LAGGING TERRIBLY BEHIND.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AS CANDACE WEST IS COMING UP, WE HAVE KATE JOHNSON ON DECK.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON SEVEN EIGHT, PLEASE. YOU GOT IT.
THANK YOU. SO, AS KATE JOHNSON IS COMING UP. I HAVE.
NOW, YOU WROTE DARCY SCHILLER. SO, DOCTOR DARCY SCHILLER.
BUT I'M TRYING TO SEE WHICH. ITEMS YOU WROTE DOWN.
SO YOU HAVE FOUR ITEMS. SO ACTUALLY, TEN A IS A PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO YOU'LL BE NEXT. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. YOU'LL BE NEXT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR GOMEZ AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT FOR ALWAYS LISTENING TO THE SPEAKERS.
I ECHO WHAT CAROL SAID. YOU PUT DOWN YOUR PHONES, YOU LOOK AT US.
WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS AND SHOW IT BY YOUR ACTIONS.
AND I TOLD YOU EACH OF THIS. I TOLD YOU EACH THAT IN PRIVATE.
I ALSO WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD. YOU ALWAYS TREAT RESIDENTS WITH RESPECT.
I'M SURE THIS MONEY WILL COME OUT OF THE ALREADY ALLOCATED INITIATIVE FUNDS.
ONE SUGGESTION THOUGH PLEASE DO NOT SCHEDULE CONFLICTING EVENTS WITHIN THE CITY WHEN OTHER EVENTS ARE SCHEDULED, SUCH AS WHEN THIS HAPPENED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S 50TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION.
WHILE I MIGHT HAVE ATTENDED COMMISSIONER BOLTON ACTIVITY SUPPORTING TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE TOOK PRECEDENCE AS IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT TO EVERY TAMARAC RESIDENT'S WELL-BEING. THEY WORK HARD, THEY SAVE LIVES, AND WE NEED THEM.
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WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM EVERY CHANCE WE GET. AND IT WAS A GREAT CELEBRATION WITH EXCITING AND INFORMATIVE DEMONSTRATIONS.WELL DONE CHIEF. I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 13TH FLOOR MONEY? ALMOST $1 MILLION THAT THEY GAVE THE CITY TO HELP COMMUNITIES AFFECTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AT WOODLANDS.
THEY HAD DESIGNATED CERTAIN COMMUNITIES PROPERTY.
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WAS SAID AT A COMMISSION MEETING.
YET I HAVE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE PROCESS. HAS THIS BEEN WORKED ON? HAS A SYSTEM PUT IN PLACE FOR US TO APPLY? IT HAS NOT COME UP IN ANY COMMISSION MEETING THAT I CAN RECALL FOR APPROVING A PROCESS. WE COULD DESPERATELY USE SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR OUR CLUBHOUSE, BUT I NEED TO KNOW HOW I CAN APPLY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JEFFREY SHAPIRO, YOU'RE NEXT. NO. OKAY. DARCY SCHILLER, KING'S KINGS POINT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I UNDERSTAND IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY HAD THE BRINGING IN THE NEW TRUCK AND OPENING UP THE NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUT I CANNOT COMMENT ENOUGH ABOUT HOW HELPFUL THIS DEPARTMENT AND THE EMTS HAVE BEEN.
THEY ACTUALLY SAVED MY LIFE, NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE.
AND I AM SPEECHLESS. OKAY TWO OTHER THINGS. ONE NOT TO QUESTION LEVENT, BUT HE COMMENTED THAT THERE WERE 3000 PLUS PEOPLE AT THE MULTICULTURAL EVENT.
I WAS THERE. I DID NOT SEE 3000 ADULTS. MAYBE THERE WERE 2500 CHILDREN, BUT THERE WERE NOT 3000 ADULTS. ENOUGH SAID. LAST THING THAT I'VE LEARNED VERY CLEARLY IS THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT DOWN A COMMISSIONER BY NAME.
SOMEBODY ON THE DAIS. IF YOU'LL STOP THE CLOCK FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE CORRECT ME.
AM I CORRECT THAT YOU'RE NOT? OKAY, FINE. YOU'RE NOT.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHASTISE. THEN WHY IN GOD'S NAME ARE WE ALLOWING A POSTER THAT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN MY COMING UP HERE AND SLAMMING ANY OF YOU HERE? IT'S BEING DONE ON A POSTER. I THINK THAT'S EGREGIOUS.
THAT'S AS MUCH AS BAD AS MY COMING UP AND SPEAKING AGAINST YOU.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD TAKE SOME ACTION.
IF HE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY, LET HIM COME UP HERE.
BUT ANYBODY CAN COME UP AND PUT UP POSTERS. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN EVERYBODY STARTS DOING THAT? IT'S GOING TO BE A MAD HOUSE. THAT'S MY COMMENTS ON THAT.
I'LL SAVE EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THE DIFFERENT TOPICS.
MARK GOGGIN, YOU ARE AFTER JEFFREY SHAPIRO.
JEFFREY SHAPIRO 6104 ORCHARD TREE LANE IN THE WOODLANDS.
THIS EVENING, I'M BEFORE ALL OF YOU IN A MANNER THAT I'VE GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TOWARDS.
OKAY. AND IT HAPPENS TO BE THE WAY THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, NOT THE MAYOR, THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, ARE ELECTED. IT BOTHERS ME TO NO END. IT'S NOT FAIR TO ALL THE TAXPAYING RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. EACH ONE OF THESE COMMISSIONERS IS ONLY SEEKING TO GET IN OFFICE 25% OR MAYBE LESS, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE OF THE VOTERS OF THEIR AREA AND THEIR DISTRICT.
I DO NOT THINK THAT'S FAIR. I DO NOT THINK THAT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ARE WORKING IN UNISON TO BETTER FOR A BETTERMENT OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY. AND I JUST BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE SAID I.
I WISH THAT THIS COULD BE CHANGED BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR.
IT'S NOT FAIR. SOME OF THESE COMMISSIONERS ARE ONLY GOING TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR DISTRICT, THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR THEM. IF ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY VOTED FOR EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, THEN THEY'D ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTLOOK OF HOW TO APPROACH SITUATIONS AND MAKE VITAL VOTING
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DECISIONS WHEN APPROPRIATE. BUT I FEEL THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THIS CITY.OKAY. THERE'S ONE OTHER THING, AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE UNDER OTHER.
I DON'T KNOW IF I GET TO MAKE IT. CAN I SPEAK LATER? OKAY. I AM AGAINST PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BEING THAT'S A SEPARATE ITEM.
THAT'S AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU.
I'LL COME UP WHEN THAT'S CALLED. YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU.
AS MARK GOGGINS COMING DOWN. PATTY LYNN.
OKAY. THANK YOU. MARK GOGGIN FROM EAST TAMARAC.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE COMMISSIONER AND MAYOR WHO HELP SUPPORT THE PEOPLE.
EVERYBODY. I WOULD THINK THAT ON THIS DAIS SHOULD KNOW THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION.
IT'S NICE TO HEAR THE ATTORNEYS REPORT TODAY THAT THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT.
THEY'RE THERE WHEN YOU NEED THEM. WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM AND NOT HAVE CONFLICTING EVENTS WITH THEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR BECAUSE HIS ASSISTANT HAS CONTACTED ME TO HELP OUR COMMUNITIES TAMARAC LAKE, SOUTH NORTH, THE BOULEVARDS, AND TAMARAC ONE AND TWO TO GET SOME CLASSES OUT EAST SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL 8 TO 10 MILES TO COME HERE FOR CLASSES OUT IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY.
MY OTHER EVENTS WILL COME UP LATER, BUT THAT'S IT RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AFTER PATTY LIN, WE HAVE MARINA MADRID.
DID THIS PODIUM GROW OR DID I SHRINK AGAIN? IT WAS ON STILTS.
EVERYBODY'S GOT TO HAVE AN AIDE OR THEY SPLIT AIDES.
THEY GOT TO HAVE CAR ALLOWANCES. THEY WANT THIS, THEY WANT THAT.
THIS IS A PART TIME JOB, ISN'T IT? IT'S A PART TIME JOB.
OH, NO, IT'S A FULL TIME JOB. BUT IF IT'S A FULL TIME JOB, YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T TAKE ANOTHER JOB IN THE COUNTY, WHICH IS ALSO ANOTHER FULL TIME JOB. AND YOU CERTAINLY COULDN'T BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE ALSO AS A FULL TIME JOB, AND YOU COULDN'T BE APPLYING TO BE A CITY MANAGER IN ANOTHER CITY, WHICH IS A FULL TIME JOB.
SO WHY ARE WE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY? WHY? IT JUST DOES NOT SEEM REASONABLE TO ME.
WHERE? WE GIVE IT TO NEW RESIDENTS WHEN THEY CAME IN AND THEY SIGNED UP FOR WATER, AND IT HAD EVERYTHING WHERE YOU'D GO TO FIND OUT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. PLEASE PUSH THAT. I KNOW THAT THE RUTH BADER GINSBURG COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN WAS, WAS PUSHING THAT AND ALSO IN SEVERAL OTHER LANGUAGES.
I WASTED A LOT OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY THIS WEEK, YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE HAD A NEIGHBOR WHO HAD A SEVERE MENTAL CRISIS AND AND STRUCK HIS MOTHER. AND SO I CALLED BSO.
THEY CAME OUT. BUT BUT HE THE PERSON DID NOT QUALIFY TO BE BAKER ACTED.
SO HE'S STILL THERE WITH HIS MOTHER, WHO'S SCARED TO DEATH.
THEY DID GIVE US GIVE HER THE MOM A NUMBER TO CALL.
SHE LOST IT. SHE HAD NO IDEA THEY GAVE IT TO HER.
BUT I DID CALL, AND BSO TOLD ME WHAT THE NUMBER WAS, AND THEY CAME OUT.
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THAT WAS HENDERSON CLINIC. MOBILE CRISIS. THEY CAME OUT AND IT TOOK A COUPLE OF HOURS BECAUSE THEY HAD TO WAIT TILL THEY WERE A COUPLE MORE DEPUTIES AVAILABLE AGAIN.AND AGAIN, THE PERSON DID NOT QUALIFY FOR THE BAKER ACT.
SO I WASTED A LOT OF OUR MONEY ON BSO COMING OUT, BUT IT WAS WELL WORTH IT BECAUSE MAYBE, MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK OF HIS MIND HE WON'T STRIKE HIS MOTHER.
BUT WE NEED HELP MENTAL HEALTH IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SERIOUSLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
MARINA DOES NOT WANT TO SPEAK, AND I'M SANIDAD.
I'M HAVING NO. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK WHO HAS NOT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, SEEING THAT THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION? PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS NOW CLOSED AND WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR
[4.CONSENT AGENDA ]
CONSENT AGENDA. CITY MANAGER, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA? NO, MAYOR. THANK YOU. SEEING NO REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION, I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE AGENDA.DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND. BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, PLEASE CONDUCT. ROLL CALL. MADAM MAYOR, WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE CONDUCT ROLL CALL.
NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. I'LL CALL FOR E FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE SAYS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE THE MOTION.
MADAM MAYOR, FOR THE ROLE CITY ATTORNEY FOR E HAS HAS TO DO WHAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FEDERAL LOBBYING SERVICES, THAT I DON'T CARE WHAT TIME IT IS. CITY ATTORNEY, PROCEDURALLY, AS IT IS WRITTEN IN ROBERT'S RULES AND OUR OWN RULES, WHEN THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER THAT SHOULD BE DONE OTHER THAN A VOTE.
YOU'RE CORRECT, MAYOR, BUT AGAIN, THE COMMISSION THEN THEY CAN VOTE IT DOWN IF THEY WISH.
OBVIOUSLY, IF THE MAJORITY WANTS TO ALLOW IT, THEY CAN.
IF THE VOTE GOES FORWARD AND THEY WANT TO SAY NO TO THE VOTE, IT CAN BE REDONE.
WE CAN'T KEEP CHANGING RULES BECAUSE IT MAKES IT EASY.
YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ROLL CALL. YES.
AND IF IT DOESN'T PASS, WE GO FROM THERE. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR. GOMEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER.
BOLTON. NO. COMMISSIONER. PATTERSON. NO. VICE MAYOR.
DANIEL. NO. COMMISSIONER. RIGHT. YES. MOTION FAILS.
3 TO 2. SO, AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO PULL AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER. BOLTON, YOUR LIGHT IS LIT. PLEASE PROCEED.
MADAM MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO PULL FOR E FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WHEN IT IS BACK ON THE TABLE WITH A PROPER FIRST AND SECOND THE ITEM, THE ENTIRE ITEM DIED.
SO IT HAS TO GO BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR ME TO PULL THE ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
REMEMBER, THESE ARE YOUR RULES. I KNOW THAT WASN'T WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON, I HAVE TO.
YOU HAVE TO PUT IT BACK ON THE TABLE FOR ME TO.
YOU HAVE TO PULL IT. YOU HAVE TO PULL PUT THE AGENDA.
YOU HAVE TO PUT THE CONSENT AGENDA BACK ON THE AGENDA AGENDA.
MADAM. MADAM. MAYOR. NO. YOU ARE TO GO ON THE TABLE.
YOU ARE INCORRECT, MR. BOLTON. COMMISSIONER. BOLTON.
I ASK IF THERE'S ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
YOU HAVE NOW PULLED IT. AND NOW I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND AS A CONSENT.
MOVE IT! YES. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON TO MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS FOUR E, WHICH WILL COME BACK AT A LATER TIME WHEN IT IS READY.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. MAYOR, I JUST WANT FOR E IN TERMS OF THE AGENDA ITEM.
IT'S PULLED UNTIL SUCH TIME THE ITEM IS READY TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS SAID. IT IS NOT COMING BACK FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IT WAS TABLED UNTIL SUCH TIME. IT IS READY TO COME BACK.
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NO MATTER IF IT'S PULLED. THAT MEANS IT WILL BE VOTED ON AS A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.YES, FOR IT TO BE TABLED TO A TIME CERTAIN WHEN THE ITEM IS READY.
SO IS THERE A CHANGE? ARE WE BRINGING IT TO AN ITEM TO DISCUSS AFTERWARDS? AND IT'S JUST REMOVING IT FROM THE AGENDA TO GO ON REGULAR AGENDA.
IT WILL GO BEFORE FIVE. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION SINCE IT WAS SAID TO A TABLE. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. ARE YOU TABLING THIS TO A TIME CERTAIN WHEN THE ITEM IS READY TO BE DISCUSSED, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT AS A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM? WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION? BECAUSE IT WAS. I DID NOT MAKE A MOTION, MADAM.
YOU REMOVED IT FROM. I REMOVED IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THEN YOU SAID TABLE. I DID NOT SAY TABLE.
YOU DID. ANYWAY IT'S REMOVED. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AS FIVE.
A CITY CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YES. COMMISSIONER RICE. YES.
MAYOR. GOMEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. YES.
VICE MAYOR DANIELS. YES. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0.
EXCELLENT. MOVING RIGHT BACK TO 4ETR14195. CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.
[4.e TR14195 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida; approving amendment #16 to the agreement between the City of Tamarac and the Ferguson Group, LLC, for federal lobbying services, extending the term of the agreement for a one-year period effective February 13, 2025 at a cost not to exceed eighty-five thousand five hundred ($85,500.00) dollars per year; authorizing the appropriate City Officials to execute amendment #16 to the agreement; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date. ]
ITEM. ITEM FOUR E RESOLUTION. CITY COMMISSION, CITY OF TAMARAC.APPROVE AN AMENDMENT NUMBER 16 TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMARAC FERGUSON GROUP, LLC FOR FEDERAL LOBBYING SERVICE, EXTENDING THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025, AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $85,000. $500. $500 PER YEAR AUTHORIZING AN APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIAL.
EXECUTE AMENDMENT NUMBER 16 TO THE AGREEMENT.
PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE. MOVE IT. THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
THERE'S A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. VICE MAYOR DANIELS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW OPEN ON THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M SORRY. FOUR E ON THE CONTRACT OF THE LOBBYIST.
THE RENEWAL PROVISION OF THE CONTRACT FOR OUR FEDERAL LOBBYIST, THE FERGUSON GROUP.
SEEING NOBODY WISHING TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MISS CALLOWAY.
ANY. COMMISSIONER. NAME AND TITLE? SURE. MAXINE CALLOWAY.
DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
THANK YOU, MISS CALLAWAY. TO YOUR RECOLLECTION, DID MISS DID THE LOBBYIST REACH OUT TO THE CITY WITH ANY INFORMATION REGARDING MONTH TO MONTH QUARTERLY OPTIONS? SHE IS PRESENT VIRTUAL WITH THAT INFORMATION.
SHE DOES HAVE THE MONTH TO MONTH PROPOSAL INFORMATION.
SHE ALSO PROVIDED THE ZIP CODE INFORMATION. THAT MEMORANDUM THAT WAS SENT IN 2020.
I SAW THAT MEMORANDUM. IT WAS SENT TO KATHLEEN GUNN AND LAURA KAPUSCINSKI.
THAT IS CORRECT. AND I KNOW I BUTCHERED HER LAST NAME.
AND KATHLEEN GUNN AND LAURA DID NOT SEND THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
VAL. I'M. I'M ONLY CALLING YOU BY YOUR FIRST NAME BECAUSE YOUR NEW LAST NAME SLIPS ME.
AND I CANNOT PRONOUNCE MARCELLO. IT'S MARCELLO.
NO WORRIES. MASO. MASSULLO. MR.. MASSULLO. MARCELLO.
MASSULLO. OKAY. LIKE CEJUDO? OKAY. MISS MASALA.
OKAY. MISS MASSULLO. DO YOU HAVE ANY PROPOSALS FOR US FOR MONTH TO MONTH OR QUARTERLY? QUARTERLY AMOUNTS FOR YOUR LOBBYING SERVICES? I DO, I DO, I DO. I WENT BACK AND SPOKE WITH OUR MANAGEMENT, AND WE HAVE WE HAVE INFORMATION FOR YOU ON BOTH.
FOR THE MONTH TO MONTH, WHICH WE DO REALLY VERY INFREQUENTLY.
THERE'S A STEEP INCREASE OF 35%. FOR A QUARTERLY CONTRACT, IT'S LESS OF AN INCREASE OF 15%.
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OKAY. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE? YOU ASSUME MY MATH SKILLS ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE? I DO NOT HAVE A CALCULATOR WITH ME, BUT ONLY.ONLY THAT YOU ASSUME THAT I HAVE BETTER MATH SKILLS THAN YOU.
ABSOLUTELY. WE DO. WE DO ALL HAVE AN IPHONE OR A CELL PHONE OF SOME SORT WITH CALCULATORS ON IT.
COMMISSIONER 85 COMMISSIONER. RIGHT. HAS IT IF YOU WISH. $85,000 DIVIDED BY 12.
THAT WOULD BE $7,083 WITH $0.33. AND YOU SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE A 35% INCREASE.
THAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE WOULD BE A TOTAL THEN OF $9,562.50 PER MONTH.
IS THAT THE FIGURE THAT YOU GOT? COMMISSIONER.
RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN IF I SHOULD DO $85,000 DIVIDED BY 12 TIMES 85, FIVE TIMES FIVE TIMES THREE THAT WOULD BE PLUS 15%.
IT WOULD BE $24,437.50. QUARTERLY. OKAY.
QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. IS IT APPROPRIATE THAT THE CITY COMMISSION OPENLY WOULD BE SOME SORT OF NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT, NUMBERS AND SUCH WITH A VENDOR.
I UNDERSTAND FROM PROCUREMENT POLICIES PERHAPS IT IS NOT KOSHER TO HAVE THE CITY COMMISSION DEAL WITH NUMBERS, BUT PERHAPS THAT IS A STAFF A STAFF ROLE.
CAN YOU TELL US JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT YOUR OPINION IS WITH RESPECT TO CONTRACTS THAT ARE BEFORE THE COMMISSION? THE COMMISSION IS THE FINAL DECISION MAKER.
THEY HAVE THE DISCRETION TO THIS. THIS COMMISSION IS THE FINAL DECISION MAKER.
THEY HAVE THE DISCRETION TO REVISE CERTAIN BUSINESS TERMS, AND PRICE IS ONE OF THEM.
OKAY. SO BECAUSE I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE. MISS MAZZULO TO NEGOTIATE YOUR PRICE, SO TO SPEAK. I WOULD DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY ARE WILLING TO DO MONTH TO MONTH OR QUARTERLY OR ONE YEAR. AND IF WE COME TO MONTH TO MONTH QUARTERLY ONE YEAR, OR JUST FLAT OUT SAY WE WANT SOMEBODY ELSE, THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY IT WOULD BE PROBABLY BEST TO DIRECT STAFF THEN TO WORK OUT THE TERMS OF, OF YOUR AGREEMENT. THAT WOULD BE MY MY STANCE.
THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO IF THE CONTRACT IS UP IN THIS MONTH, CAN THE ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS LEAD US THROUGH MARCH? I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE MONTH TO MONTH. WELL, THE MONTH TO MONTH WOULD BE BASICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE THIS CONTRACT WITHOUT A WITHOUT A TERM. IT WOULD BE SAME CONTRACT WITH THE TERM WOULD BE MONTH TO MONTH.
SO IF THEY DON'T COME TO A CONCLUSION WITH THE MONTH TO MONTH WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT, DO WE AUTOMATICALLY HAVE AN EX? DO THEY AUTOMATICALLY HAVE AN EXTENDED 30 DAYS? THE REASON WE HAVE THIS CONTRACT WITH THE COMMISSION, IT EXPIRES AUTOMATICALLY.
BUT BUT SOMETHING WAS SAID IN THE WORKSHOP THAT I THINK IT THINK IT WAS THE MAYOR WHO SAID IT.
I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN HER MOUTH. 30 DAYS NOTICE OF TERMINATION.
WELL, THAT'S THAT'S IF IT DIDN'T HAVE AN EXPIRATION TERM.
BUT THE TERM IS ENDING. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER.
CORRECT. GOTCHA. SO I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE MONTH TO MONTH IF STAFF NEGOTIATE A BETTER PRICE.
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I THINK 35% IS KIND OF HIGH. THAT'S LIKE AN ADDITIONAL $2,000.I'M NOT COMMISSIONER. RIGHT. I'M JUST GOING TO FOLLOW UP MY COMMENTS ON MONDAY.
I'M OKAY WITH THE ONE YEAR. I THINK WE WE DO NEED TO GO TO GO AND SEARCH FOR A NEW FIRM.
BUT I THINK AS SOMEONE WHO'S WORKED WITH US FOR THE PAST 17 YEARS, OUT OF RESPECT, WE CAN AT LEAST GIVE THEM THAT TIME THAT THAT NOTICE TO KNOW THAT WE WANT TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. SO I AM I AM FOR DOING IT FOR THE ONE YEAR.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE A TIME FRAME OF HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO FIND SERVICES CITY MANAGER? ACTUALLY I DON'T. DURING THE WORKSHOP, WE TALKED ABOUT LETTERS OF INTEREST.
AND YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE PURSUE THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT MINIMUM 30 TO 45 DAYS, PROBABLY BEFORE IT COMES IN FRONT OF THE CITY COMMISSION. SO THAT'S ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
YOU'RE SAYING EASILY EASILY MINIMUM. YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S A MINIMUM THAT TIME FRAME.
SO IF WE DO THREE MONTHS AT A MONTH TO MONTH, THAT'S ABOUT 28,000.
YEAH, I THINK I WILL I'LL BE AMENABLE TO SUPPORT IN THE QUARTERLY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M FOR THE ONE YEAR, BUT BASED ON THE NUMBERS AND THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, I THINK THE QUARTERLY OPTION WOULD BE A BETTER DEAL. WELL, I WILL REPEAT MY COMMENTS FROM MONDAY. I THINK A YEARLY DEAL IS BETTER.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEW PRESIDENCY. A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING ON.
WHAT WILL IT DO TO THE GOOD STUFF THAT OUR LOBBYISTS ARE DOING FOR OUR CITY AND FOR OUR REPRESENTATION? HOW EFFECTIVE WILL IT BE? QUITE HONESTLY. ALSO, LETTERS OF INTENT.
WHILE IT MAY SEEM LIKE A QUICKER PROCESS, IT STILL REQUIRES ALL THE NECESSARY BACKUP AND PAPERWORK THAT MUST BE REVIEWED IN ORDER TO DETERMINE IF IT IS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE DECISION TO CHANGE TO A NEW PERSON. I THINK THAT IT IS WISER FOR US TO STAY WITH OUR LOBBYISTS FOR THE YEAR AND KNOW THAT IF WE'RE PUTTING OUT A PROPOSAL, WHATEVER IT IS LETTERS OF INTENT, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, WHICHEVER PROCESS IS DETERMINED, IT CAN BE STARTED AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE IT WILL BE WILL BE EFFECTIVE TO HAVE US CHANGE, AS THEY PUT THE VERNACULAR OF HORSES IN MIDSTREAM.
AND HOW EFFECTIVE WILL IT BE TO THEN GET A NEW LOBBYIST ON ON DECK? I ALSO. THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE VERY MUCH PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND WE HAVE THE STATE LEGISLATURE GOING INTO FULL SWING STARTING IN MARCH AS WELL.
SO IT'S MY OPINION TO KEEP THE FERGUSON GROUP FOR THE YEAR AND THEN WITH NOTICE OF WHAT WILL OCCUR WHEN WE GO OUT FOR NEW BIDS, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT HAPPENS FOR WHATEVER PROCESS IT IS. AND, AND WE CAN THEN HAVE THE 30 DAYS IF WE NEED BE.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, MR. MANAGER, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE DO A QUARTERLY POSITIONING OR AN ANNUAL POSITIONING, THERE WOULD STILL BE SOME LAG, RIGHT, IN BRINGING IN OR ONBOARDING SOMEONE OR A NEW FIRM IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.
RIGHT? SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO DO ANOTHER YEAR CONTRACT, LET'S JUST SAY AT THE END OF THAT YEAR TERM, THERE WOULD STILL BE THAT PROCUREMENT. WE WOULD STILL BE IN THE SAME PLACE WE'RE IN TODAY, ESSENTIALLY. POSSIBLY. BUT YOU KNOW, IF IF WE KNOW THE INTENTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION, WE CAN START THE PROCESS A LITTLE EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN BE BE PREPARED TO PRESENT THE, THE OPTIONS AT THAT TIME.
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SO, SO, SO TO THE VICE MAYOR'S POINT, THE QUARTERLY POSITIONING WOULD STILL.SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, WE'RE STILL IN THE SAME PLACE, NO MATTER WHETHER WE DO IT MONTHLY, QUARTERLY OR ANNUALLY, WE WOULD STILL BE IN THIS PLACE OF IDENTIFYING A NEW VENDOR AND HAVING TO MAKE A TRANSITION KIND OF SIMULTANEOUSLY. EASILY CORRECT. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
SO IF STAFF CAN NEGOTIATE AND COME UP WITH A PROPER DEAL, I AM FINE WITH THAT.
THEY NEGOTIATE EVERYTHING ELSE. I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO STAFF TO NEGOTIATE.
I STILL WOULD LIKE MONTHLY, BUT IF QUARTERLY SOMEHOW NEGOTIATE BETTER THAN 15%, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
AND THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE A LOBBYIST, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW CRITICAL US BEING WITHOUT A LOBBYIST FOR A MONTH WOULD BE BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER CITIES STATES.
I'M SORRY IF I SAID STATE THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE A LOBBYIST.
YES. ONCE WE GO TO DC AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION IS NOT GOING TO DC.
BUT ONCE DC IS OVER, THEN WHAT WOULD WE BE? WHAT TYPE OF SERVICE WOULD WE BE MISSING IN APRIL? SAY, IF WE DID MONTH TO MONTH, WHAT TYPE OF SERVICE WOULD WE BE MISSING IN MAY? BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, I DID NOT SPEAK TO THE LOBBYISTS IN APRIL, MAY, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER. SO BUT I DO KNOW THERE'S ASSISTANCE WITH GRANTS.
BUT I THINK OUR GRANT ADMINISTRATOR IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THE DELAY IS THAT SIGNIFICANT.
WELL, CAN YOU TELL US THE. YEAH, YEAH. I'M SORRY.
GO AHEAD. WELL, THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION RUNS THROUGH THE FALL.
AND IN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE WOULD BE DOING.
I, YOU KNOW, WE THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS COMING OUT OF THE NEW ADMINISTRATION IN TERMS OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND NEW POLICIES AND NEW PRIORITIES. WE ARE REPORTING ON THAT ALL THE TIME.
I, I WENT THROUGH AND SAW THAT SOME OF YOU ARE ON OUR REPORTING LIST AND SOME ARE NOT.
SO I'VE GOT EVERYBODY ON THERE. THERE IS SO MUCH HAPPENING IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS PROBABLY INEVITABLY WILL FLARE UP IN A LOT OF CITIES, INCLUDING TAMARAC, HAVING TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVING TO DO WITH IMMIGRATION AND HEALTHCARE.
YOU KNOW, HOUSING THERE. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING I'M SURE, MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS AGENCIES YOU STAND TO LOSE, POTENTIALLY LOSE A LOT OF FUNDING THAT YOU'RE ALREADY IN LINE TO RECEIVE.
BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S THERE ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT PROCESSES, IS THAT THE AGENCIES ARE NOT EVEN, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE AGENCIES ARE NOT EVEN CLEAR ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO INTEGRATE SOME OF THE NEW ADMINISTRATION POLICIES INTO EXISTING GRANT AND EARMARK AGREEMENTS. AND SO WITHOUT THE PROPER WITHOUT THE PROPER PATH THROUGH THAT SYSTEM, YOU STAND TO LOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
SO I THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE ON THE PART OF THE CITY AND A LOT OF SHEPHERDING AND HELPING YOU ANALYZE AND RESPOND TO THINGS SO THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, HANG ON TO THE MONEY THAT YOU'VE GOT AND PROPERLY APPLY FOR YOU KNOW, FOR THE CHANGING GRANT LANDSCAPE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.
THANK YOU. AND THEN ALSO AGENCIES HAVE TIMELINES, RIGHT? SO THEY DO. AND IF WE MISS THEM, IF WE DON'T HAVE REPRESENTATION, THEY DO.
YES, YES. THE AGENCIES HAVE TIMELINES, MEANING THAT THE GRANT PROCESSES WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT AND EACH GRANT AND EACH AGENCY DO HAVE TIMELINES. AND SO THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS THERE OF US, YOU KNOW, GETTING HELPING YOU GET PREPARED BEFORE A GRANT NOTICE EVEN COMES OUT, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE GRANT IS ABOUT, AND EVEN TALKING TO THE PROGRAM MANAGERS BEFORE THAT GRANT COMES OUT ONCE, ONCE THE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY IS OPENED, YOU CAN NO LONGER ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GRANT.
SO IT'S CRITICAL TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BEFOREHAND.
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THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE COMES TO THE CITY.AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME WORK. THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. ALSO, I THINK IT'S LIKELY THAT IF WE TRY TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP DURING A VERY BUSY TIME, WE MAY NOT BE GETTING THE BEST APPLICATIONS COMING FORWARD BECAUSE THEIR FIRMS ARE GOING TO BE EXTREMELY BUSY.
AND NOT TO SAY THAT THEY WON'T HAVE SOME SEPARATE MARKETING PERSON TO DO SOME OF THEIR STANDARD PACKAGES, BUT WE'D BE PULLING THEM AWAY FROM OTHER CLIENTS WHO ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR THEM.
THAT IS MY OPINION. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE EXPRESSED OUR OPINIONS.
I'M SEEING NOTHING FURTHER. AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS FOR THE CONTRACT, AS IS. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE CONTRACT AS IS.
SO WE WILL DO A ROLL CALL ON THAT. HAVE YOU ALREADY HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON? VICE MAYOR. SO THE PROPER WAY, THEN, MAYOR, TO SELECT AN OPTION WOULD BE TO AMEND THE MOTION. IF THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION WOULD BE YOURSELF WISHES TO DO AN AMENDMENT AND VICE MAYOR WHO SECONDED WISHES TO SUPPORT YOUR AMENDMENT, THEN WE WOULD GO FORWARD ON THAT ONE. DO YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION, VICE MAYOR? RIGHT. SECOND. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OH, OKAY. GOOD.
OKAY. QUARTERLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AMEND, MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO OH, GOSH. VAL. YOUR FACE. CAN YOU TAKE HER OFF THE SCREEN? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO HAVE THE CONTRACT BE RENEWED AT THREE MONTHS, SUBJECT TO STAFF NEGOTIATING THE TERMS, THE PRICE AND THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.
THAT'S YOUR MOVE. NO. OH. CAN I SPEAK OR NO? DID YOU KNOW IF YOU SAID NO? THE MOTION FAILS. OH I SEE. WELL, THE VICE MAYOR WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE POTENTIAL AMENDING OF THIS MOTION. OH, CAN YOU ALSO ADD THAT THEY LOOK INTO MONTH TO MONTH, BUT AFTER WHAT YOU SAID, THEY PROBABLY WON'T GET A GOOD PRICE ANYWAY.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE WE HAVE A MOTION AMENDED MOTION.
EITHER ACCEPT IT OR DENY REJECTED. RESTATE YOUR RESTATE THE. SHE HASN'T SAID ANYTHING YET.
THE MOTION IS TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT FOR A PERIOD OF THREE MONTHS, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER, OR DESIGNEE, TO NEGOTIATE THE PRICE FOR THE THREE MONTH PERIOD.
WHILE THE VICE MAYOR IS CONTEMPLATING, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
WE HAVE BEFORE US THE PROPOSAL FROM THE FERGUSON GROUP OF THEIR PRICE.
IF WE ARE NOT PROCEEDING WITH THE CONTRACT THAT EXPIRES TOMORROW, WITH THE NEW FINANCIAL TERMS THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED TO US, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT, WE ARE WITHOUT A CONTRACT BECAUSE WE CAN'T APPROVE THE CONTRACT SUBJECT TO TOMORROW'S NEGOTIATION.
I'M JUST. YES. NO. MAYBE. SO YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT ME? NO, I'M LISTENING TO YOU. I MEAN, THE IS OBVIOUSLY FERGUSON GROUP IS, YOU KNOW, THE DECISION IS TO RENEW THE CONTRACT FOR A PERIOD OF THREE MONTHS. SO WITH THAT DECISION, THE CONTRACT IS RENEW.
BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO RENEW A CONTRACT ON A PRICE THAT WE HAVE JUST BEEN TOLD WHAT IT IS.
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IS THAT A GOOD FAITH CONTRACT TO BE NEGOTIATED WHEN YOU WHEN YOU CHANGE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE PRICE AFTER IT'S BEEN AGREED UPON AS A MONTH TO MONTH OR QUARTERLY CONTRACT AT A SUM CERTAIN THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US. WELL THE DIRECTION OF THE MOTION IS TO ALLOW STAFF TO NEGOTIATE WITH FERGUSON GROUP THE NEW PRICE BASED ON QUARTERLY. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THE FERGUSON GROUP DOESN'T WISH TO RENEGOTIATE AGAINST ITSELF FOR ANOTHER PRICE THAT THEY HAVE JUST GIVEN US? ARE WE THEN, WITHOUT A CONTRACT? WELL THE MANAGEMENT WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND INDICATE THAT THEY ARE UNABLE TO REACH A TERM, AND WE PROBABLY WILL BE WITHOUT A CONTRACT. WHY SHOULD I GUESS? I'M JUST NOT A BIG DEAL. SO, VICE MAYOR, I'VE STRETCHED TIME FOR YOU.I APPRECIATE IT. IT'S NOW YOUR TIME TO SAY WHETHER YOU ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT OR NOT.
SO, I MEAN, TO ME, IT'S A COMPROMISE GOING TO THE QUARTERLY.
SO. BUT THE QUARTERLY IS THIS QUARTERLY WITH NEGOTIATIONS.
WITH NEGOTIATIONS? ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY.
I DOUBT THEY'LL JUST LEAVE IT ON THE TABLE. OKAY.
SO ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW, THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IS NOT SO SURE.
GO AHEAD. IF I MAY, VAL BECAUSE WE ALSO WANT TO BALANCE HAVING A LOBBYIST.
BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE TO JUST LOOK AT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE LONG STANDING.
AND SO BECAUSE I ALSO WANT TO BALANCE THAT WITH BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IF STAFF WERE TO ENTERTAIN SIX MONTHS INSTEAD OF THREE MONTHS, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU KEEP THE THE RATE THE SAME? $85,000. JUST SPLITTING IT IN HALF. WELL, OKAY.
YEAH, I, I FIRST OF ALL, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT TODAY IS THE LAST DAY OF THE EXISTING CONTRACT.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN UNILATERALLY MAKE A DECISION ON THAT.
SO WE'RE IN A LITTLE BIT OF A BIND ON THAT. OKAY.
I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE. OKAY. SO, BECAUSE I'M HEARING DIFFERING VIEWS ON ON THE COMMISSION.
THE, THE AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, MAYOR IS TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT.
WITH THE ABILITY TO. NOT APPROVE THE CONTRACT.
SO IN A SENSE, WE'RE GIVING STAFF THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE ONE MONTH, TWO MONTH, THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, FIVE MONTHS, UP TO SIX MONTHS. ANOTHER POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT IS NOT THE NEGOTIATED CONTRACT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US FROM THE FERGUSON GROUP.
AND READING THE TERM, IT IS BEGINNING FEBRUARY 13TH.
SO YES, TODAY IS THE END OF IT. SO I'M LOOKING TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
THEY'VE ALREADY TOLD US THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THREE MONTHS.
THERE. THEIR COMMENTS ARE A MONTH TO MONTH QUARTERLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED FOR ON MONDAY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED FOR, BUT THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
THEY DID NOT PRESENT TO US, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO TALK TO THEM SO THAT WE ARE FISCAL RESPONSIBLE, PUTS US BACK IN THE SAME FINANCIAL OR THE SAME SITUATION WHERE THAT IS NOT THE CONTRACT PRESENTED BY THE FERGUSON GROUP.
WELL, THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER MARLON OF BOLTON.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST STATED, MAKE THE MOTION.
YOU GIVE IT A TERM CERTAIN THE PRICE CAN BE NEGOTIATED BY STAFF, AND THE DATE OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE CAN BE APPLIED RETROACTIVELY. OKAY. I AMEND MY MOTION TO HAVE STAFF NEGOTIATE THE TERMS NOT TO EXCEED SIX MONTHS AND NEGOTIATE THE PRICE WITH THE FERGUSON GROUP. THAT'S MY AMENDMENT GONNA ASK? I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ASK VAL.
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MADAM MAYOR, YOUR RULES SAY THAT WHEN WE HAVE SECONDED THE MOTION, THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, AND WE NEED TO CALL THE VOTE. WELL, YOU SAID YOU ACTUALLY SAID THAT 30 MINUTES AGO.NO, THAT WAS ON CONSENT AGENDA, CLARK. ON CONSENT AGENDA, ALL ITEMS. NO IT'S NOT. IT'S ON ALL ITEMS. IT'S YOUR RULE.
COMMISSIONER. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE COMMENTS AFTER MOTION.
AND A SECOND WE HAVE COMMISSION DISCUSSION. WE ALREADY JUST HAD DISCUSSION.
WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING BUT IT'S MOTION. AND SECOND.
AND THE CLERK NEEDS TO CALL THE VOTE. THAT'S THE MAYOR.
CALL A VOTE. AND IF IT PASSES, PASS. IF IT DOESN'T.
AND THEN I'LL ASK. BUT THE RULES ARE ONLY FOR NO DISCUSSION AFTER CONSENT AGENDA.
CORRECT? OH. PLEASE DON'T SAY WE DON'T KNOW. YOUR RULE IS THE SAME RULE.
IT'S THE SAME RULE. WHATEVER. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH CALLING THE VOTE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. YES. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
NO. VICE MAYOR DANIEL. YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
YES. MAYOR. GOMEZ. NO. MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2. THE ITEM PASSES.
VAL, YOU'LL BE SPEAKING WITH LEGAL TOMORROW. BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN YOUR PURVIEW THAT THE ACTUAL AMENDED TERMS OF YOUR CONTRACT ARE THE EFFECTIVE DATE. THAT THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF AGREEMENT SHALL BE FOR SIX MONTH PERIOD BEGINNING FEBRUARY 13TH, 2025. OKAY. AND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. YOU AS WELL. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING BACK TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED PROGRAM OF FIVE A IS TR14213.
[5.a TR14213 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, approving the special extended hours permit for La Taberna Nightclub located at 5303 North State Road 7, Tamarac, Florida, allowing alcohol sales and consumption on-premises only from 2:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays, in accordance with Section 3-4 of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date. ]
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.ITEM FIVE A RESOLUTION OF CITY COMMISSION AND CITY TAMARAC APPROVING THE SPECIAL EXTENDED HOURS PERMIT FOR LA TABERNA NIGHTCLUB, LOCATED AT 5303 NORTH STATE ROAD SEVEN, TAMARAC, FLORIDA, ALLOWING ALCOHOL SALES AND CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY FROM 2 A.M.
TO 4 P.M. ON THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 3-4 OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCE PROVIDE FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE. MOVE IT.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. I NOW WILL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENTS.
LOOKING AT MY LIST, I HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS BY DOCTOR DARCY SCHILLER.
PLEASE COME ON UP. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? I KNOW YOU ARE NOT MARINA MADRID. IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WILL STEP BACK FOR A SECOND.
ARE YOU ARE YOU YOU'RE THE APPLICANT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO. I'VE GIVEN THIS A LOT OF THOUGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE LEGAL VERBIAGE ON THIS IF IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON, BUT I THINK NAME O.
DARCY SCHILLER, KING'S POINT. I THINK IT'S AGREGIOUS TO SERVE ALCOHOL FROM 2 TO 4 ON A THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT IN A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE BARS DOWN IN MIAMI BEACH FOR THAT. WE HAVE BARS ALONG THE INTRACOASTAL AND THE BEACH.
WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE SLOBBERING DRUNK BETWEEN 2 AND 4 A.M.
ON A THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH TROUBLE WITH PEOPLE AND ACCIDENTS.
AND I JUST HOPE THAT ALTHOUGH IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEIR BUSINESS, I JUST DON'T SEE IT.
CREATING BUSINESS, JUST FEEDING INTO ALCOHOLICS FROM 2 TO 4 A.M..
AND I HOPE THE COMMISSION USES GOOD JUDGMENT AND MAKES A DECISION NOT TO VOTE ON THIS, ALTHOUGH IT WILL CREATE SOME FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY FOR THE COMPANY. BECAUSE WE HAVE ENOUGH ALCOHOLICS, WE HAVE ENOUGH CAR ACCIDENTS, WE HAVE ENOUGH GUN SHOOTINGS. WE DON'T NEED TO ADD TO IT FROM 2 TO 4.
NO. DISRESPECT TO THE OWNERS OF THE COMPANY. THANK YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
AND I CAN TELL THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
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PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND LOCATION.GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE. KIM JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MISS MARINA MADRID.
INTO THE MICROPHONE. KIM JOHNSON. YES. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS TWO HOURS EXTENSION, BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME OUR CUSTOMERS ATTEND THIS BUSINESS, LIKE, COMES AROUND ONE.
SO IT JUST GIVES US, LIKE A SMALL TIME FRAME TO MAKE A LITTLE MONEY.
AND FOR THE PAST, I'VE SHOWN OUR RECORDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEM WITH THE CITY.
I ADHERE TO ALL LAWS AND WOULD BE REALLY GRATEFUL TO YOU GUYS IF YOU CAN APPROVE THAT FOR US.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS CALLAWAY IS HERE AS WELL FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
SHE IS OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
THIS IS NOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS AFTER THE MOTION.
AND SECOND. SO YOU NEED SOME HELP. YOU NEED HELP WITH ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU SPOKE ALREADY? HE'S. HE'S THE APPLICANT. IF YOU WANT TO SIT IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE HAVE A SEAT RIGHT IN FRONT. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.
BOLTON. MISS CALLAHAN. A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
MAXINE CALLOWAY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
FOR THE RECORD, MISS CALLAWAY, THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY PARTICIPATING.
THE. SORRY. THE THE APPLICANT IS CURRENTLY WHAT'S THE WORD? THEY'RE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN TAMARAC. THEY ARE.
AND THIS COMMISSION GRANTED AN EXTENDED OUR PERMIT LAST YEAR THAT IS EXPIRED.
AND SO THEY'RE SEEKING ANOTHER PERMIT THIS YEAR.
YES THEY ARE. HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN OPERATING? I WOULD WANT TO SAY MAYBE FOUR YEARS. FIVE YEARS.
OKAY. AND IN OCTOBER 2025, THE APPLICANT'S OCTOBER 2015. I'M THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
WERE THEY PERMITTED TO GO UNTIL 4 A.M. OR WERE THEY PERMITTED TO GO UNTIL 2 A.M.? 2 A.M.? OKAY. AND WHEN WAS THE 2 A.M. CHANGED TO 4 P.M.? LAST YEAR. AND THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 2019.
BUT THE FIRST APPLICATION FOR LA TAVERNA, I THINK, WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
OKAY. AND THIS APPLICANT IS BEFORE US. HAS ANY OTHER APPLICANT COME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION WITH A SIMILAR REQUEST? YES. COMMISSIONER LAST MEET. LAST COMMISSION MEETING.
THIS COMMISSION APPROVED I9 RESTAURANT FOR THE SAME APPLICATION.
OKAY. AND CAN YOU JUST RECALL THEN PERHAPS TO THE CLERK WHAT THE VOTE WAS ON THAT ITEM? I'LL LOOK IT UP. OKAY. AND THEY ARE LOCATED. WHERE? IN THE SAME PLAZA AS I-9 RESTAURANT. THE APPLICATION THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS APPLICANT IS IDENTICAL TO THE APPLICANT THAT WE APPROVED LAST MEETING? THE REQUEST IS IDENTICAL, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS THE ATTORNEY.
YES. IF WE DENIED THIS APPLICANT TONIGHT BUT HAD APPROVED THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT.
WHAT ARE THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS? WELL, OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, WHATEVER DECISION THE COMMISSION MAKE, I HAVE TO DEFEND IT, GOOD OR BAD. BUT YOU SHOULD TREAT ALL ALL APPLICANTS HAVE THAT.
ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE IN THE SAME COMPLEX. THE SAME. OKAY.
OKAY. CLARK, DO YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION? I COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I THINK THE VOTE WAS FOUR ONE. I'M JUST GOING ON RECOLLECTION.
OKAY. MISS CALLOWAY IS STATE ROAD SEVEN WHERE THE PLAZA IS LOCATED.
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WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD? THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT OR COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION.SO THE USE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT.
SO YOU'D CONSIDER THAT THAT STREET, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL? IT IS NOT. AND IT'S NOT ZONED RESIDENTIAL. IT'S COMMERCIAL.
OKAY. SO IT'S APPROPRIATELY ZONED. AND THEY HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNTIL 4 A.M.
FOR THE PAST YEAR WITH NO ISSUES. YES, WE KNOW ISSUES.
THERE ARE SOME CALL FOR SERVICE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE MEMORANDUM, BUT THEY ARE VERY MINIMAL AND IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO, NO CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
WAS THERE ANY CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE MEMORANDUM? WE HAD A FEW AS WELL, BUT THEY WERE MINIMAL. OKAY.
IS THIS QUASI-JUDICIAL? IT IS NOT. OKAY. SO I'M KIND OF SEARCHING FOR A REASON TO SAY NO.
BUT I CAN'T FIND A REASON, SO GOOD LUCK ON YOUR BUSINESS.
VICE MAYOR. A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. THE SPEAKER PREVIOUS SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DRIVE DRUNK, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO DO THAT.
HOPEFULLY NOBODY IN HERE, I'M SURE. WHAT DO YOU GOT? WHAT DO YOU DO YOUR EMPLOYEES DO WHEN THEY SEE SOMEONE WHO POSSIBLY COULD TRY TO LEAVE AND DRIVE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO. WELL, BASICALLY, IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, WHAT WE WOULD DO.
TRY TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE ASSISTANCE IF WE CAN.
GIVE THEM A FEW BOTTLES OF WATER. TRY TO REVIVE THEM.
IF WE SEE THAT THEY'RE IN A SITUATION, LIKE, NOT GOOD TO DRIVE.
GET AN UBER. SO YOUR PROCEDURE IS. AND IF SOMEONE CANNOT DRIVE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DRINKING, YOU GET THEM AN UBER. CORRECT. AND YOU FOLLOW THAT ALL THE TIME.
FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE ALL THE TIME. THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. SORRY, BUT THERE IS SOME NEW.
YOU HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE? YES. YOU KNOW THE RULES FOR LIQUOR LICENSE? PRETTY MUCH YES. DO YOU HAVE A BARTENDER? YES.
WHEN SOMEBODY IS GETTING DRUNK IN YOUR ESTABLISHMENT, WHAT DOES.
STOP SERVING. THEY STOP SERVING. YEAH. SO WHY WOULD YOU HAVE TO CALL AN UBER IF SOMEBODY IS TOO DRUNK TO DRIVE HOME? IN SOME SITUATION, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? SAY THAT MEANS THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEBODY IS TOO DRUNK TO DRIVE HOME IN SITUATION.
IS THAT A YES, SIR? MAYBE. IS EITHER YES OR NO? NO. BUT YOU JUST SAID THAT IF SOMEBODY IS TOO DRUNK TO DRIVE, YOUR POLICY IS TO PUT THEM IN AN UBER AND SEND THEM HOME.
IF I SEE LIKE THEY ARE IN A PHYSICAL STATE, LIKE HAVE YOU SEEN THEM IN A PHYSICAL STATE ONCE OR TWICE? SO YOU HAVE BROKEN THE LAW. NO NO, NO. I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.
THE LAW IS THAT IF SOMEBODY IS DRINKING AND THEY'RE TOO DRUNK, YOU SHOULD CUT THEM OFF.
NO, WHAT I'M SAYING, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT LIKE I'VE SEEN PEOPLE.
BUT YOUR POLICY IS THAT IF SOMEBODY IS TOO DRUNK, YOU PUT THEM IN AN UBER AND YOU SEND THEM HOME.
THAT IS YOUR POLICY. YEAH, THAT'S MY POLICY. OKAY.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I DO. AND THIS IS MY DISTRICT WITH MY SENIOR RESIDENTS TO PROTECT.
YES. CORRECT. OKAY. VICE MAYOR. JUST ANOTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY IN THERE TOO DRUNK, GIVE THEM AN UBER BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TELL.
I THINK ONLY THE POLICE OFFICER DO WHATEVER, BUT ANALYSTS OR ANALYZATION OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK THEY ALWAYS STAY ON THE SAFE SIDE BECAUSE MAYBE IT'S SLOW. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY LIKE ME WHO DON'T DRINK.
I ONLY NEED A HALF A GLASS. CORRECT. SO YOU CAN'T REALLY JUDGE.
I STILL SAY STICK TO HIS RULE, BUT ALSO FOLLOW UP YOUR RULE.
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PUT THEM IN AN UBER. THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I MAY, I HAVE DEVOTEE COMMISSIONER BOLTON.GO AHEAD. THE THE CITY ATTORNEY ALREADY QUALIFIED 4 TO 1.
THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND IT'S IN OUR MINUTES IN THE BACK.
IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE FULL CONTROL.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, I ALSO UNDERSTAND VERY WELL SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE HAD IN THAT AREA, NOT NECESSARILY DUE TO YOUR BUSINESS OR YOUR NEIGHBOR'S BUSINESS, BUT DUE TO THE BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET.
AND IF WE SAY IT AS STRAIGHT AS IT IS, THINGS GOT WORSE.
SO THINGS DO GET WORSE IN THE IN THE AREA. AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO YOUR BUSINESS, NECESSARILY. YOUR NEIGHBOR'S BUSINESS? I KNOW THE LANDLORD WAS IN THERE.
I'VE BEEN IN THERE WITH THE LANDLORD TRYING TO HELP SITUATIONS WHERE THEY WERE WORKING ON HAVING ONE AREA CLOSED OFF IN VALET AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF. BUT I JUST DO NOT FEEL THAT IT IS THE CORRECT POLICY TO ALLOW ESTABLISHMENTS BEING OPEN TILL 4 A.M.
TO SERVE ALCOHOL. IT NOT EVEN ON NEW YEAR'S EVE.
I'M SORRY. 2:00. GET IT? BUT 4:00 I CANNOT ACCEPT.
AND WHILE IT MAY NOT BE THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL THAT IS ESTABLISHED AS RESIDENTIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOU, IT IS RESIDENTIAL. AND FOR THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, SOUND TRAVELS THIS WAY, THIS WAY, THIS WAY AND THAT WAY.
AND SO IT STILL RESIDENTIAL ENOUGH FOR ME. SO WHILE I DO NOT WISH ILL WILL TO YOU, MISS MADRID, AND YOUR BUSINESS, I WILL SAY CONSISTENT AND NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT.
OKAY. AT THIS TIME I'M SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER RAY. YES. VICE MAYOR DANIEL.
YES. MAYOR. GOMEZ. NO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. NO.
COMMISSIONER. PATTERSON. YES. MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING.
[6.a 102574 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, amending Chapter 12, “Business Tax Receipts Regulations,” by creating Article XIV, entitled “Certificate of Use”; providing for the requirement of a certificate of use for all new tenants in commercial properties prior to the issuance of a business tax receipt requiring commercial property owners to resolve existing code and safety violations and existing liens before a certificate of use is issued to a new tenant; providing for penalties; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date. ]
WE ARE AT 6AT02574. CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.ITEM SIX A AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF CITY TAMARAC AMENDING CHAPTER 12 BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT REGULATIONS BY CREATING ARTICLE 14 ENTITLED CERTIFICATE OF USE PROVIDING FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF CERTIFICATE OF CERTIFICATE USED FOR ALL NEW TENANTS IN COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT, REQUIRING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO RESOLVE EXISTING CODE AND SAFETY VIOLATIONS.
EXISTING LIENS BEFORE A CERTIFICATE IS ISSUED TO A NEW TENANT.
PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES. PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS.
SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.
I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE. MOVE IT.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. I WILL NOW OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST AND I DO NOT. OH, I DO SEE A6A FOR EILEEN LIEBERMAN.
SIX B. MY APOLOGIES, I WROTE A. ALL RIGHT. SEE YOU AT SIX B.
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO ONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM DURING OUR WORKSHOP.
WE DID NOT GET TO THIS ITEM ON OUR WORKSHOP. WILL YOU BE DOING A PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME? THE MOTION DESIGNERS. I'M NOT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO THAT WANT YOUR PRESENTATION.
SO THEREFORE, LET'S HAVE A PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, MAXINE CALLOWAY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON THE ITEM. THE CERTIFICATE OF USE.
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AMENDMENT. ESSENTIALLY, WE ARE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCE, SPECIFICALLY CHAPTER 12, WHERE WE HAVE THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT REGULATIONS.WE'RE INTRODUCING A NEW ARTICLE. SPECIFICALLY ARTICLE 14.
THAT WOULD BE A CERTIFICATE OF USE PROCESS. AS WE DO WHEN WE'RE AMENDING THE ORDINANCE, WE LOOK AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US. AND THIS IS JUST A POLLING IN TERMS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
THE RED SHOWS JURISDICTIONS THAT ALLOW THE LIENS AND AS WELL AS FINES TO BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT. SOME OF THE OTHER ONES IN BLACK THAT ARE NOT IN RED, THEY DO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF USE PROGRAM.
NOW, BEFORE I GO INTO THE ORDINANCE, I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE NEW PROVISIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS LEGISLATION, PROVIDED IT'S ADOPTED, ESSENTIALLY MEANING THAT A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT WOULD NOT BE ISSUED TO A NEW TENANT IF A VIOLATION OR LIEN IS ON THE PROPERTY.
THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE ACTIVE LIENS. SO WHETHER IT BE DRIVEWAY, WHETHER IT BE PAINTING, WHATEVER THAT VIOLATION MIGHT BE, OR IF THERE IS ANY LIENS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING ON THE PROPERTY, THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS NEW LEGISLATION.
THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS THE THE PROCESS FLOW ESSENTIALLY, AS IT IS NOW, A BUSINESS COMING INTO THE CITY WOULD START WITH A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT. IF THIS LEGISLATION IS ADOPTED, THE FIRST THING WOULD BE A BE A CERTIFICATE OF USE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY IS APPROPRIATELY ZONED. THEN WE LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY LIENS FINDS ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THE AMENDMENT IS TYPICAL TO MOST OTHER ORDINANCES WE BRING FORWARD.
THERE IS AN INTENT AND PURPOSE THAT DESCRIBES THE REASON FOR THE ORDINANCE.
ARTICLE 14, SECTION 12 TWO 243 PROVIDES FOR THE PROCESS.
IT WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND THIS SECTION PROVIDES FOR THE PROCESS OF THAT APPLICATION.
LOCATION. SECTION 12 244 IS THE PROVISION THAT PROVIDES, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, WHY A CERTIFICATE OF USE COULD BE REVOKED, AND IT RANGES FROM A VIOLATION ON THE PAPER.
IF FRAUD IS IS ON THE PAPER AS WELL. IF THERE IS INFORMATION PROVIDED, THAT'S INCORRECT INCLUDING THE REFUSAL TO ALLOW BSO OR CODE TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF USE COULD BE REVOKED.
ESSENTIALLY, IT BRINGS YOU BACK TO CHAPTER TWO, SECTION TWO, DASH 71, WHICH IS OUR ENFORCEMENT PROVISION, WHICH BRINGS YOU BEFORE THIS, THE MAGISTRATE OR ALLOWS THE CITY TO GIVE YOU A CIVIL VIOLATION, FIRST VIOLATION BEING $250 AND THE REPEAT VIOLATION UP TO $500 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. OH. THANK YOU. SO THIS WILL ASSIST US WITH THE PLAZAS.
CORRECT ME THAT. DON'T KEEP UP. SO THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, WHERE ONE WAY WE COULD FORCE THEM TO MAINTAIN THEIR PLAZA, RENOVATE THE PLAZA IS BY NOT ALLOWING ANY NEW BUSINESS TO COME IN UNTIL THEY FIX THE LIEN, FIX THE CODE VIOLATION, AND CLEAN UP OUR CITY.
SO I THINK BUT I THINK $250. I THINK THAT DOESN'T SOUND.
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SO FOR INSTANCE, WALMART, BECAUSE I SAW IT, $250 WOULDN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO THEM, I DON'T THINK.YEAH, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS THIS IS A HAMMER THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW BUSINESSES TO MOVE INTO THE SPACE. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR WALMART PLAZA, IF THERE IS ANY VACANT BAYS AND THERE'S A VIOLATION ON THAT PLAZA, THEN THAT TENANT WOULD, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE IN UNTIL THOSE VIOLATIONS ARE ABATED.
YOU WOULD NOT GET A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT. YES.
TO MOVE INTO THAT SPACE. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS AND PERHAPS THAT'S WHY WE SEE SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DOESN'T DON'T NECESSARILY USE THE LIEN OR THE VIOLATIONS TO NOT ISSUE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A BIG MOVE ON THE PART OF THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT THIS ORDINANCE.
IT WOULD IMPACT THE BUSINESSES AND THEIR ABILITY, OF COURSE, TO OCCUPY THE PLAZAS.
BUT THIS IS GOOD FOR US BECAUSE WE'VE YET AND A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT FOUR, I KNOW, SHAPIRO SAID. WE DON'T NECESSARILY CARE ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY.
I DO CARE ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY, BUT I CARE MOSTLY ABOUT DISTRICT FOUR.
YEAH, THE PLAZAS THAT ARE RUN DOWN. SO THIS IS ONE WAY WE CAN USE, I HOPE THE COMMISSION VOTES YES FOR THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE METHOD WE CAN USE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE LEAN IS NOT WORKING TO FORCE THEM TO CLEAN UP AND RENOVATE THEIR PLACE AND FIX THEIR CODE VIOLATIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. DEPUTY DEPUTY MANAGER.
SORRY. SO, FROM A REGULATORY AND A ZONING STANDPOINT, RIGHT.
THIS PROVISION WOULD ENSURE THAT NO PARTICULAR PLAZA WOULD HAVE LIKE THREE SMOKE SHOPS OR THREE BEAUTY SUPPLY STORES, OR RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER IN A PLAZA. RIGHT.
THIS WOULD HELP ENSURE THAT THERE ARE SOME REVIEWS IN TERMS OF ZONING AND USE, OR WOULD THAT STILL ALLOW FOR THOSE USES TO HAPPEN IN THE SAME SPACE? IT COULD. IT COULD UNLESS WE TACKLE THOSE USES SEPARATELY.
BUT A DISTANCE SEPARATION, THOSE ARE MANAGED BY ZONING DISTRICT.
AND SO I KNOW OUR MASSAGE PLAZA, THOSE HAVE DISTANCE SEPARATION.
SO THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW ONE TO BE NEXT TO THE OTHER.
BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY PRECLUDE CERTAIN USES FROM OPERATING IN THE SAME PLAZA.
IT WOULD JUST PRECLUDE THEM FROM OPERATING JUST PERIOD.
THEY COULD NOT MOVE IN. IF THERE'S A VIOLATION OR A LIEN THAT'S OUTSTANDING ON THE PLAZA.
SO THE ZONING DISTRICT AT LARGE, NOT NECESSARILY DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS.
THERE'S NO DISTANCE. SO THERE'S NO BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT TO ME THAT'S A LITTLE IMPORTANT.
RIGHT. LIKE I THINK THAT WE DON'T WANT ANY PLAZA TO HAVE TEN THRIFT SHOPS IN IT.
RIGHT. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A USE ORDINANCE, I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT IF THE IF THE ORDINANCE AS IT'S CURRENTLY DRAFTED DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER.
WE COULD, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.
WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND IS EITHER THE USE CHART WHERE THE USES ARE PERMISSIBLE.
SO THERE'S A SEPARATE LOCATION IN THE ZONING CODE THAT HAS A LIST OF ALL THE USES.
THE ZONING DISTRICT. WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THAT CHART TO SEE WHAT USES ARE PERMISSIBLE IN WHAT ZONING DISTRICTS, HOW MANY ZONING DISTRICTS THE USE IS PERMISSIBLE IN, IF THE USE IS A USE THAT WE THINK THAT WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT, THEN WE'LL SEE HOW MANY ZONING DISTRICTS IT'S ALLOWED IN, AND THEN WE CAN APPLY SOME DISTANCE SEPARATION.
IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROCESS. OKAY. AND I'M DEFINITELY NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE LOOK AT IT FROM A DISTRICT STANDPOINT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE DIVERSITY IS NECESSARY TO CITYWIDE DISTRICT WIDE.
I'M JUST SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY. IF THERE IS A PLAZA THERE'S TWO PLAZAS THAT ABUT EACH OTHER THAT, YOU KNOW, OR ONE PLAZA SPECIFICALLY THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE, WORK, PLAY HERE AND THAT THERE IS JUST SOME DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE APPROVING AND HOW WE GO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF YOU KNOW, GIVING BUSINESS BUSINESSES SPACE IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY.
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SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN I SAY DISTRICT, I MEANT ZONING DISTRICT.OKAY. SO THAT WOULD CONTROL. OKAY. HOW MANY? THE LOCATION.
OKAY. AND THEN FROM, LIKE, A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT THIS WOULD WOULD THIS HELP WITH ENSURING YOU KNOW, WE'RE MEETING SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, A RESTAURANT COULD NOT COME IN AND NOT PROPERLY ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE A GREASE TRAP OR, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OF THOSE NECESSARY MECHANISMS TO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, ANY GREASE OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HAVE YOU. YES. THERE'S A SAFETY INSPECTION THAT'S A PART OF THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT PROCESS.
SO WHEN YOU GET THERE, THERE'S A SAFETY INSPECTION THAT IS A PART OF THAT APPLICATION.
BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING TO THAT APPLICATION UNTIL YOU'VE PASSED THIS THRESHOLD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY VIOLATIONS, ANY LIENS ARE ARE ABATED. AND THIS IS ALL DESIGNED REALLY IN RESPONSE TO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ENHANCING THE IMAGE OF THE CITY AND MAKING SURE THE PLAZAS REMAIN ATTRACTIVE. SURE. SO SO THERE'S NO DUMB PIECE TO THIS CERTIFICATE OF USE? NOT TO THIS COMPONENT, BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT, IT'S ALWAYS HAD THAT COMPONENT.
SO LET ME ASK THEN. SO IF WE'RE ATTACHING ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS TO THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT, THEN WHAT WOULD BE WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST ATTACH THE LEAN PIECE TO THAT AS WELL.
IT DOESN'T GENERALLY REQUIRE A WHOLE BUNCH OF STEPS.
SO IF THE CITY HAS ATTACHED ALL OF THE ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL MECHANISMS TO THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.
WHY DIDN'T OR WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST CONSIDER ATTACHING THE LIEN PROCESS TO THE BUSINESS? WHY WOULD SOMEONE BE ISSUED A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT IF THERE'S LIENS ON THE PROPERTY? ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M ASKING. ARE.
IT INCLUDES THE SAFETY INCLUDES IT INCLUDES INSPECTION.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART, NOT A LOT OF CITIES WOULD DO THE CERTIFICATE OF USE.
SO I AND I AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE EXPLAINING TO ME.
I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING THOUGH IS STILL SPECIFICALLY WHY WOULD WE ISSUE SOMEONE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT AND ALL OF THE LIENS ALREADY EXIST ON OUR PLAZAS OR ON THE ON THE BUILDING. SO IF WE KNOW THAT THE ROOF IS LEAKING AND THERE'S A LEAK THAT RUNS FOR THAT ROOF OR FOR THAT PLAZA, AND THEY COME TO THE CITY AND THE CITY. WHY WOULD WE ISSUE THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT KNOWING THAT THE LIEN EXISTS? IT FEELS LIKE THE VEHICLE IS ALREADY HERE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER RULE ON THE BOOKS.
AND I'M NOT SAYING I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT. THIS IS JUST A LINE OF QUESTIONING.
I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE.
WE'VE BEEN TO SOME DEGREE ENABLING THE BEHAVIOR.
IF WE'VE ALLOWED BUSINESSES TO COME INTO THE CITY WE'RE ISSUING, WE'RE GIVING.
SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. AND I DON'T KNOW IF CITY MANAGER WISHES TO SAY SOMETHING.
DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IS DEFINITELY THE EXPERT IN THIS AREA.
BUT I JUST WANT TO OFFER YOU KNOW THIS INFORMATION.
THE THE TYPE OF LIENS THAT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS CERTIFICATE OF USE PROGRAM ARE MOSTLY ON THE PLAZA ITSELF, BECAUSE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING INTO A SPECIFIC LOCATION IN THAT BUILDING.
AND IF THERE ARE SOME DEFICIENCIES, THEY'RE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE SAFETY INSPECTION BEFORE THAT, THAT TENANT GOES INTO THAT SPACE. SO IF THERE ARE ANY DEFICIENCIES FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, THOSE WOULD BE IDENTIFIED AND CURED BEFORE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO TAKE PLACE.
OKAY. SO THEN LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. LET'S SAY THAT THIS THIS THIS THING GETS APPROVED AND BUSINESS MAXINE CALLOWAY LLC DECIDES TO COME INTO THE CITY AND THE BUSINESS THE THE, THE, THE, THE SPACE THAT YOU WANT TO OCCUPY HAS LIENS. THE CERTIFICATE OF USE PROCESS IS SAYING YOU CANNOT TAKE UP SHOP, BUT I CAN STILL GET A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.
NO, YOU DON'T SAY I'M SORRY. THE THE FLOWCHART I SHOWED START WITH THE CERTIFICATE OF USE.
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IF THAT IS DENIED, YOU GO NO FURTHER UNTIL EVERYTHING IS CURED.SO NOW THIS IS GOING TO FIX THE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT ISSUE.
OKAY. THE CERTIFICATE. AND IT'S NOT FOR THE SPACE I'M GOING IN.
IF THERE'S A LIEN OR A VIOLATION ANYWHERE ON THE ENTIRE PLAZA, EVEN IF IT MEANS THE PLAZA NEEDS LANDSCAPING OR PAINTING OR STRIPING, ANY LIEN OR VIOLATION ON THAT ENTIRE PLAZA WOULD PROHIBIT OR PRECLUDE MAXINE LLC FROM MOVING IN.
SO NOT JUST ON THE UNIT. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THAT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN, BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LIEN THAT EXISTS FOR LANDSCAPE.
ESCAPE. I DON'T THINK THAT I CAN SUPPORT A RULE THAT WOULD PRECLUDE A BUSINESS, OR PREVENT A BUSINESS FROM FROM BEING ABLE TO OPERATE FOR A LANDSCAPING VIOLATION. RIGHT. BUT I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THIS THE YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR TWO.
YEAH. I'LL GO AND TAKE THE TWO. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT OBVIOUSLY THAT WE DEAL WITH THE PLAZAS.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PLAZAS. I'M JUST I'M NOT 100% SURE I'M CLEAR ON HOW THIS HELPS.
NOW, IF YOU SAID THAT THE READ THE CITIES IN THE RED WHICH ARE THE FEW THAT ARE PREVENTING BUSINESSES FROM COMING IN, WHAT'S THE SUCCESS RATE WITH THE WITH THE OTHERS THAT DON'T ALLOW THEIR C U PROCESS TO PREVENT BUSINESSES FROM COMING IN? AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO NOT NECESSARILY CAUTION, BUT JUST LET YOU KNOW IT IS A HEAVY HAMMER BECAUSE YOU ARE LOOKING AT ANY VIOLATION AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THAT MIGHT BE ON THAT PLAZA THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT BUSINESS FROM MOVING IN.
SO THAT DISCOMFORT YOU'RE FEELING IS BECAUSE THIS WILL IMPACT BUSINESSES.
BUT DURING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING DISCUSSION AND PROCESS, WHAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD IS THAT WE WANTED TO CONSIDER SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE MEANINGFUL, THAT WOULD FORCE THESE PLAZAS TO LOOK BETTER.
SO THIS IS, IN FACT, A VERY HEAVY HAND. OKAY.
I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. SO WHILE I WAS PART OF THE GROUP OF CONSENSUS ON MOVING SOMETHING FORWARD AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO FOR PLAZAS, RIGHT. WE WERE DEALING WITH COMING OUT OF COVID, CERTAIN THINGS NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF. LEON'S JUST ACCUMULATING AND ACCUMULATING AND ACCUMULATING, I ACCUMULATING, I GET IT. LIKE I SAID, I WAS PART OF THAT. BUT IN READING THIS, THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A HEAVY HAMMER.
THIS IS JUST. WHY DON'T WE TELL OUR PLAZA OWNERS DON'T BOTHER TO HAVE ANY BUSINESS? BECAUSE WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET A BUSINESS TO COME IN HERE, AND YOU WILL HAVE NO MONEY TO RENOVATE YOUR PLAZAS BECAUSE WE DON'T LET YOU HAVE.
I HAVE EXPRESSED THIS TO YOURSELF. I EXPRESS TO THE CITY MANAGER I'LL EXPRESS THIS PUBLICLY.
I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF GALL TO ASK OUR PLAZA OWNERS WHO BLACKTOP THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
EVERYTHING IS FINE, THEIR POTHOLES ARE FINE, AND THEY GRAY'S OUT.
BUT WE NEED TO ASK THEM TO RESEAL IT CONSTANTLY.
WE HAVEN'T DONE OURS IN ANY OF OUR PLACES. WHY ARE WE ASKING THEM? ONE OF THE ANSWERS IS, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT OR WE'RE WAITING TILL WE DO THIS. WE'RE WAITING TO DO THAT. IF A BUSINESS PLAZA OWNER COMES TO US AND SAYS, I'VE GOT THIS TWO YEAR PLAN, THREE YEAR PLAN, WHATEVER THE PLAN IS TO SAY THAT I AM BRINGING IN BUSINESSES HERE BECAUSE MANY OF OUR OWNERS ARE NOW NEW PLAZA OWNERS. THERE'S BEEN A SHIFT FROM THE PAST.
THEY HAVE BOUGHT THESE PLAZAS NOW BEING IN THE SINS OF THE FATHER, SO TO SPEAK, AND WE'RE NOT LETTING THEM COME IN AND SPEND AND INVEST MONEY INTO OUR CITY BY HIGH TAILING OR CURTAILING THEIR ABILITY TO DO THINGS AND WASTING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON RESEALING A PARKING LOT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE MILLING IN. A PLAN THAT MAKES SENSE. PUTTING IN HEDGES THAT MAKE SENSE.
FIXING LIGHTING THAT MAKES SENSE. PAINTING THE BUILDINGS THAT MAKE SENSE.
YEAH. THAT'S DIFFERENT. THAT'S A HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE TYPE SITUATION.
THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANYBODY. THAT SHOULD BE A VIOLATION.
BUT TELLING A BUSINESS THAT THEY CAN'T GO INTO A PLAZA BECAUSE THE PLAZA HAS NOT YET HAD ENOUGH INCOME TO SUPPORT MAKING SOME OF THESE COSMETIC CHANGES TO THE EXTREME.
I'M NOT SAYING IF THEY NEED TO REMODEL AND THAT THEY NEED TO FIX POTHOLES, THAT THEY DON'T.
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THEY HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT A SEALCOAT IS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, I GET MY NAILS DONE.IT'S LIKE PUTTING CLEAR POLISH OVER YOUR COLORFUL POLISH.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WHEN YOU HAVE NEXT MONTH THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, OR THE MONTH AFTER IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING, OR THEY'VE GIVEN YOU A PLAN. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS TOO MUCH AND IT'S TOO HEAVY HANDED. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT OUR CHART, WE HAVE ACTIVE LIENS, BUT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE. IF THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE, WHY IS THE LIEN ACTIVE.
WERE THEY NOT ABLE TO PAY THE LIEN? PROBABLY NOT.
ARE SOME OF SOME OF THESE PLAZAS POSSIBLY HURTING BECAUSE IT HAS SOME OTHER BUSINESSES THAT THEY NEED TO FILL THAT HAVE GONE OUT? SO THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE HAVING THIS $200 A DAY, $250 A DAY, LEAN COMPOUNDING ITSELF.
AGAIN, SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO GO LOOK TO PUT THEIR BUSINESS INTO A PLAZA IS GOING TO SAY, OH, GOODNESS, NO. WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THIS PLAZA? I'M NOT COMING HERE TO TAMARAC.
SO I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS THE MOST BUSINESS FRIENDLY WAY TO DO THINGS.
DO I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING IN PLACE TO HELP MOTIVATE SOME OF THE PLAZA OWNERS THAT ARE POSSIBLY NOT FIXING THEIR PROPERTY, THEN? YES. BUT I THINK ALSO WE NEED TO BE BETTER LISTENERS TO OUR PLAZA OWNERS WHO HAVE BEEN PRESENTING TO US THEIR PLANS AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO, AND THE FACT THAT SOME OF OUR PLAZA OWNERS HAVE NOT CHARGED RENT TO THEIR TENANTS SO THAT THEY CAN STAY OPEN, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE BUSINESS SO THAT THEY CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS WHILE THE PLAZA OWNERS ARE EATING THE TAXES, THE INSURANCE, AND ALL THE ALL THE LANDSCAPE AND OTHER MAINTENANCE THINGS THAT ARE COMING DUE.
SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE IN THIS FORM.
VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU. SO THE PLAZAS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.
AND I THINK THE LAST PERSON IN DISTRICT FOUR, HE BACKED OUT OF IT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU SAID APPLIED FOR THE GRANT? WE HAVE ASSISTED TWO, TWO. AND WE'RE COMING FORWARD IN MARCH WITH A NEW PROGRAM.
THERE'S SEVERAL HOUSES IN OUR CITIES THAT HAVE LIENS ON THEM, I THINK PLAZA OWNERS.
AND WE'RE NOT STOPPING BUSINESS. WE WANT OUR CITY TO LOOK GOOD.
WE WANT WE WANT TO ATTRACT THE RIGHT TYPE OF BUSINESS.
AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR YEARS, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING BRAND NEW.
A LOT OF HAIL ACROSS THE STREET. THEY UPDATE THEIR PLAZA.
EVEN LAUDERDALE LAKES UPDATE THEIR PLAZA. NORTH LAUDERDALE HAS THRIVING PLAZA.
DON'T TALK ABOUT CORAL SPRINGS. BEAUTIFUL. WHY CAN'T TAMARAC DO THE SAME? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? AND THIS IS YEARS. SO I AM FOR IT BECAUSE I'M NOT HURTING BUSINESS.
I'M HURTING THE PLAZA OWNER WHO HAS NOT FIXED THEIR ISSUES IN YEARS.
NOW, IF THEY FIX IT, DO NOT DO NOT HOLD THEM HOSTAGE.
WORK WITH THEM. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
SO NOW WE WE GOT ELECTED AND WE JUST STAY IN THE SAME BUSINESS AS BUSINESS AS USUAL.
COME TO TAMARAC. NO BUSINESS. DIRTY PLAZAS. POTHOLE.
WHEN YOU GO TO DUNKIN DONUTS, YOU MESS UP YOUR RIMS. NO PRESSURE WASHING WHEN YOU GO TO THE SUPERMARKET ON UNIVERSITY.
THANK GOD I LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE WINN-DIXIE'S COMING SLOW COMING, BUT IT'S COMING.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. YOU'VE HAD YOUR TIME.
TAMARAC TOWN SQUARE IS UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP. SO THERE'S TRANSITION.
AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING REST IN PEACE THAT ONE OF OUR PLAZA OWNERS JUST PASSED AWAY THIS MORNING.
WHO HAS HAD SOME ISSUES, AND I'M VERY SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE HEAVY HAMMER OF NOT ALLOWING A BUSINESS TO COME IN, IF I AM AND I'M GOING TO USE MIDWAY PLAZA JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE LISTED AND THEY HAVE SOMETHING LATER ON, MIDWAY PLAZA AND I COME TO THE CITY AND I SAY, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE THESE VIOLATIONS. I BOUGHT THESE PROPERTY AND NOW I'M BEING TOLD ALL THESE VIOLATIONS I'M PRESENTING TO YOU MY TWO YEAR PLAN.
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I HAVE PEOPLE, I HAVE A PUBLIX IN MY PLAZA THAT HAS ITS OWN SET OF RULES.IF I PLAN ON KEEPING BUSINESS HERE THAT I HAVE TO WORK WITH WHEN I CAN CLOSE A LOBBY DOWN OR PARKING DOWN, I THINK IF THEY COME TO YOU WITH A PLAN AND THEY SAY WE UNDERSTAND THOSE VIOLATIONS, HOLD US TO THE PLAN, YOU ARE THEN MOVING FORWARD AND HELPING FIX THE PLAZAS.
I ALSO THINK THAT WHILE WE HAVE A PROGRAM, WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY FIRST BEFORE THEY GET THE GRANT, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE NOT TRYING.
AND I THINK SOMETHING TO GO INTO EFFECT, BUT SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME MORE REASONABLE TERMS WITHIN WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, TO MAKE OUR PLAZAS LOOK NICER. BECAUSE I STILL GET UPSET WHEN I PASS A PLAZA THAT WE LET THEM HAVE A COAT.
AND THEIR SHRUBS HAVE NOT GROWN OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.
BUT DO THEY HAVE A PLAN? HAVE THEY COME TO YOU WITH A PLAN? I DON'T THINK SO. IF THEY CAME TO YOU WITH A PLAN, MAYBE I WOULDN'T BE SO CRANKY ABOUT IT. SOMETHING HAS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE REASONABLE IN THE PROCESS. ALL RIGHT.
SORRY. IT'S ALL GOOD. COMMISSION, I VOTE YES.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. IT'S HARD TO HEAR YOU.
I'M SORRY. YES. VICE MAYOR DAN? YES. COMMISSIONER RAY.
YES. MAYOR. GOMEZ. NO. MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1. ALL RIGHTY THEN.
WE ARE GOING TO SIX. TWO. TWO. FIVE. EIGHT. THREE.
[6.c TO2583 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, establishing the "Landlord Registration Program" by amending Chapter 13 entitled “Miscellaneous Offenses” of the city’s code of ordinances, by renaming Section 13-9 to “Landlord Registration Program” to require the registration of residential rental properties; providing definitions, establishing registration requirements, violations and specifying enforcement mechanisms; relocating the “Landing and Take Off of Hot-Air Balloons” section from Section 13-9 to Section 13-10; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date. ]
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD. ITEM SIX B AN ORDINANCE OF CITY COMMISSION.CODE OF ORDINANCE BY RENAMING SECTION 1309 TO LANDLORD REGISTRATION PROGRAM TO REQUIRE THE REGISTRATION OF RESIDENTIAL RENTAL PROPERTIES FOR DEFINITION RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENTS VIOLATIONS. SPECIFYING ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.
PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY REPS. I'LL NEED A MOTION A SECOND. SO MOVED.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. I WILL NOW OPEN THIS ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS I KNOW THAT EILEEN LIEBERMAN MICHELSON WISHES TO SPEAK.
EILEEN LIEBERMAN MICHELSON, 4809 WOODLANDS BOULEVARD.
I URGE YOU TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE. I JUST HAVE ONE REQUEST FOR ALL OF YOU.
AS A RESIDENT OF MY SECTION, WE'VE EXPERIENCED A PROBLEM WITH TWO HOMES THAT ARE PERPETUALLY LEASED.
THEY'RE NOT VACATION RENTALS. THEY'RE LONG TERM LEASES.
ONE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE UNIT IS LOCATED IN CANADA, AND FOR A WHILE WE COULDN'T EVEN MAIL THEM BECAUSE THE POSTAL WORKERS IN CANADA WERE ON STRIKE. THE OTHER COMPANY IS LOCATED IN TEXAS, AND WE MADE NUMEROUS REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION SO THAT WHEN THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE CAN CONTACT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THE CITY WOULD CREATE A DATABASE FOR THE INFORMATION AND SUBSECTION D THAT YOU COULD SEARCH ONLINE BY ADDRESS TO GET THE CONTACT INFORMATION.
BUT TO HAVE THAT DATABASE SO THAT YOU COULD GO ONLINE AND CHECK AN ADDRESS AND KNOW HOW TO CONTACT SOMEONE AND SOMEONE AND HAVE A NAME, A PHONE NUMBER, A LOCATION WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.
SO I URGE YOU TO AMEND THIS SECTION TO CREATE THAT ONLINE DATABASE.
AND THEN AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING THAT YOU MAKE THE SAME REQUEST FOR THE VACATION RENTALS SECTION, WHICH IS IN CHAPTER 12, ARTICLE 13 OF YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS ON MONDAY.
SO THEREFORE WE DID NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION. AND I'D APPRECIATE APPRECIATE A PRESENTATION PLEASE.
MISS MAXINE CALLOWAY, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
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THANK YOU. SO THIS IS TWO 2583 FOR THE LANDLORD REGISTRATION PROGRAM.IT WILL ENSURE THAT THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM SUPPORTS PROACTIVE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, ALLOWS OR CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE TO HAVE A DATABASE TO CONTACT OWNERS OF PROPERTY WHEN THERE ARE MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
AND THESE ARE THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE ACTIVE LANDLORD REGISTRATION PROGRAMS. THE ORDINANCE WILL BE IN OUR MISCELLANEOUS SECTION OF THE CODE.
AND THEN SECTION 13 NINE B, WHICH PROVIDES FOR THE DEFINITIONS AS APPROPRIATE AND APPLICABLE TO THE LANDLORD REGISTRATION PROCESS, AND THIS IS FOR EVERY DWELLING UNIT PROVIDED IT'S RENTED, IT'S LONG TERM RENTED.
SINGLE FAMILY TRIPLEX DUPLEX, EVERY RENTAL PROPERTY.
THERE IS AN APPLICATION REQUIREMENT. SECTION 13 DASH NINE C IS THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS.
SECTION 13 DASH NINE E IS THE REGISTRATION FEE PROVISION THAT SPEAKS TO A RESOLUTION THAT WILL COME AT A FUTURE DATE, AND STAFF WILL BE RECOMMENDING A $75 REGISTRATION FEE AND WILL BRING THAT RESOLUTION TO THE FEBRUARY 26TH MEETING IF THIS ORDINANCE PASSES.
SECTION 13 DASH NINE F IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR REGISTRATION SECTION.
SECTION 13 DASH NINE G HAS INFORMATION THAT IS REGARDED AS FALSE INFORMATION IF IT'S ON AN APPLICATION AND VIOLATIONS ARE YOUR ENFORCEMENT SECTION IS SECTION 13 DASH NINE H. AND I.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN RESPOND TO THOSE.
ALL RIGHT I'LL ASK QUESTIONS. I SEE THAT IT'S A YEARLY THING.
IT SAYS DO ME A FAVOR. GO BACK TO WHAT IS THE ALLEGED PENALTY? WHAT'S THE PENALTY OF NONCOMPLIANCE? LET ME TAKE YOU THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS.
SECTION 271. HOW DO YOU KNOW? HOW DO YOU KNOW IF A LANDLORD HAS NOT PROVIDED A LEASE TO YOU? HOW DO YOU KNOW THE HOUSE IS BEING RENTED? SO IF A NEIGHBOR, AS WE KNOW NOW, IF A NEIGHBOR CALLS US AND SAY THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR IS BEING RENTED THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ISSUE A VIOLATION.
AND THE VIOLATION WOULD BE FOR YOU TO REGISTER.
HOW DO YOU DO THAT? BASED ON SOMEBODY'S SAY SO THAT THE HOUSE IS POTENTIALLY BEING RENTED? WHAT IF IT'S JUST THEIR AUNT, UNCLE, SISTER, BROTHER, COUSIN FROM THREE UNCLES AGO? WE HAVE WE HAVE NO. WE'LL DO OUR BEST. YEAH. SO IF AS IT IS NOW WITH ANY ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, ANY VIOLATION ISSUE, IF A PROPERTY OWNER REACHES OUT TO US AND SAY THERE'S AN ISSUE, IT'S RENTED.
WHAT IF I'M RENTING OUT A ROOM? IF YOU'RE RENTING, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REGISTER THE PROPERTY.
UNDERSTOOD. BUT YOU'RE SAYING IF YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC RECORDS AND YOU SEE MY NAME ON THERE, I'M THERE. IF I ANSWER THE DOOR AND I GET THE MAIL RIGHT.
AND THEN, MARY, IF YOU TELL US THAT I'M RENTING A ROOM, THEN WE'D ASK, WHAT IF I DON'T TELL YOU I'M RENTING A ROOM? WELL, I GET IT. LOOK, I'M THE ONE WHO'S BEEN PUSHING FOR THIS, BUT YOU KNOW HOW I LIKE THINGS TO MAKE SENSE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLAY, I WANT IT TO BE ENFORCEABLE.
I WANT THERE TO BE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE NEED TO CAPTURE THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND IT'S FOR THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S VIOLATIONS THAT SOMETIMES HAPPEN.
PEOPLE WHO ARE THEY'RE LEAVING THEIR PROPERTY TO.
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THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE THESE QUESTIONS. WE HAVE OVER 7000 RENTAL PROPERTIES IN THE CITY.AND SO THE OBJECTIVE IS TO REGISTER AND HAVE A DATABASE FOR AS MANY AS WE CAN REGISTER, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY, JUST ALL PROPERTIES. SO THIS WILL ALSO GO TO LIKE TAMARAC VILLAGE ARCADIA LEGACY.
THESE WILL ALL BE INCLUDED. RENTAL UNIT EVERY RENTAL PROPERTY IN THE CITY.
SO NOW OUR RENTAL COMMUNITIES WOULD BE PAYING THE PROPERTY MANAGER PAY.
THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY PAYS IT, NOT EACH INDIVIDUAL 105 200.
YES, $75 TO REGISTER THAT PROPERTY, THAT FOLIO NUMBER.
SO IT SAYS REJECTED APPLICATION. THAT WAS WHY I WAS ALSO ASKING.
EXACTLY. BECAUSE IF I HAVEN'T FILLED IT OUT RIGHT, HOW ARE YOU GETTING ME? RIGHT. WE WANT THE CORRECT INFORMATION. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT YOU AND CREATE THAT DATABASE.
OKAY. I'M NOT SURE HOW I FEEL ABOUT HAVING IT BE A YEARLY ITEM IN THE RESPECT THAT IF I'M RENTING MY HOUSE, MY HOUSE IS RENTED. I'M STILL THE SAME PERSON.
SO IF MY LEASE CHANGES, WHY DO I HAVE TO CONTINUALLY TELL YOU I'M STILL DOING IT? BECAUSE THERE NEEDS TO BE A MECHANISM TO SAY I'M SELLING MY HOUSE OR I'M NOT, OR I'M MOVING BACK IN MY HOUSE AND LET YOU KNOW.
BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE WITH HAVING TO HAVE IT YEARLY, BECAUSE IF I'M USING IT AS A RENTAL LOCATION, ESPECIALLY. WE'RE HAVING THE LANDLORD'S INFORMATION IN THERE.
WE'RE NOT HAVING MY TENANT'S INFORMATION IN THE DATABASE.
THAT'S CORRECT. BUT LANDLORDS CHANGE, MAYOR. THE PROPERTY MIGHT BE SOLD.
BUT LANDLORDS CHANGE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE THAT.
BUT I'M RENTING OUT MY HOUSE FOR SEVEN YEARS.
IT'S THE SAME TENANT FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS.
I'M STILL THE SAME LANDLORD, SO I'M REALLY NOT SO SURE HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT PART OF IT.
I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING IN HERE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A DATABASE THAT WOULD BE SEARCHABLE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. IT'S FINE.
AND AS A PERSON ON THE COMMISSION WHO HAS A HOUSE THAT I RENT OUT, I AM QUITE HAPPY TO HAVE THIS.
WHAT HAPPENS IF MY TENANTS GO OUT OF TOWN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PIPES BURST? SOMEBODY NEEDS TO KNOW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF ME, SO I'M FOR IT.
ON SECOND READING. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, THANK YOU.
MAYOR. DEPUTY MANAGER, I WANTED TO KNOW, COULD WE.
SO IS SO. IN FACT, IT IS AN ANNUAL RENEWAL. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEING PROPOSED CURRENTLY.
BUT WE WELCOME ANY CHANGES COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO OFFER.
OKAY. BECAUSE I'M KIND OF THINKING, I MEAN, KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF I FEEL LIKE GENERALLY THESE ARE GOOD FOR MULTI-FAMILIES. THESE TYPES OF ORDINANCE ARE REALLY GOOD, OBVIOUSLY FOR MULTI-FAMILIES.
AND WE WANT TO ENSURE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT TENANTS HAVE WHAT THEY NEED IN THEIR UNITS, ETCETERA.
I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD WE RESTRUCTURE THE FEE TO BE MAYBE IN THE EVENT OF FAILURE TO REGISTER, THERE IS A FEE? DO WE NEED THE UPFRONT FEE OR ARE WE SAYING.
SURE. SO AS IT IS NOW, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T HAVE A FEE.
IT'S REFERRING TO A FEE THAT WILL BE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION, WHICH WE WILL BRING FORWARD ON THE 26TH.
THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE. THEY DON'T HAVE A FEE.
AND SO IF OUR PURPOSE IS TO ENCOURAGE REGISTRATION, THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION.
BUT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING FEES WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD ON FEBRUARY 26TH.
AND AT THAT TIME IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO EITHER NOT HAVE A FEE OR.
BUT STAFF WOULD BE BRINGING FORWARD A PROPOSED $75 FEE ON FEBRUARY 26TH.
I THINK OBVIOUSLY WE WANT THOSE TO BE REGISTERED AS WELL.
AND IN THAT CASE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A NICE PENALTY FOR FAILING TO REGISTER AND TO RENEW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SELL OR YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER.
BUT WE WANT TO KEEP THE MAYBE YOU CHANGED YOUR PHONE NUMBER, YOUR MAILING ADDRESS? SO WE WANT TO KEEP ACCURATE RECORDS ON OUR FILE.
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AND I THINK FAILURE TO RENEW OR REREGISTER COULD RESULT IN THAT FEE.AND THEN I WOULD SAY, CONVERSELY, WITH RESPECT TO MULTI-FAMILIES, I WOULD MAYBE HAVE STAFF CONSIDER ATTACHING AN ANNUAL INSPECTION TO THE MULTIFAMILY RENEWAL.
SO YOU KNOW, WHILE THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE TO RENEW ANNUALLY THAT THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY STAFF TO GO OUT AND DO THE MULTIFAMILY INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY. RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, WE ONLY HAD A COUPLE THAT HAD LIENS ON THEM, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE LIENS ON THEM AT THIS POINT.
SO I WOULD SAY THIS COULD ALSO SERVE AS THAT VEHICLE TO ENSURE THAT IT'S TRIGGERING AN ANNUAL INSPECTION FOR THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS, ANYTHING FOUR OR MORE IN THE CITY. SO, COMMISSIONER, IF I'M FOLLOWING CURRENTLY IT READS THERE SHALL BE A REGISTRATION FEE AS ESTABLISHED BY RESOLUTION. BUT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT THERE THE FEE IS ATTACHED AT RENEWAL.
SO WITH RESPECT TO SINGLE FAMILIES. SO I'M, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE DISCUSSING FEES RIGHT NOW LIKE YOU SAID, BUT IF MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE. YEAH. THAT WE YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GET FOLKS TO REGISTER SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE ROLL OUT THE ORDINANCE AND FAILURE TO REGISTER RESULTS IN A FEE.
RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THAT NOW.
SO WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE A LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THERE SHALL BE A REGISTRATION FEE.
IF THAT'S THE IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.
THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS. I'M ALSO THINKING THAT YOU KNOW, THIS BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE A LITTLE STRONGER IN TERMS OF HOW WE DEAL WITH MULTIFAMILY IN ENSURING THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS HAVE THE PROPER ENFORCEMENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
WE DON'T JUST WANT A REGISTRY WITH NOTHING, YOU KNOW, NO INSPECTION OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT. FAILURE TO REGISTER RESULT IN A FINE.
A CODE ENFORCEMENT CIVIL CITATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN I WAS CURIOUS. DOES THIS DOES DO DOES THIS REQUIRE PEOPLE NOW TO HAVE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT? NO, IT'S JUST A REGISTRY WE'RE CREATING FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, MAINTENANCE, FOR CONTACT, FOR THE ABILITY TO HAVE OPEN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR PROPERTY OWNERS AND OUR LANDLORDS. IT'S JUST A REGISTRY PROGRAM.
OKAY. I JUST I'LL HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO JUST MENTION FOR NOW.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. MISS CALLAWAY, HOW DOES THIS ITEM COME ABOUT? THE CITY MANAGER ASKED US TO LOOK INTO IT, AND WE FELT THAT THIS WAS A GREAT PROGRAM GIVEN THE GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE ISSUES RELATIVE TO LANDLORD. ABSENTEE LANDLORD WHERE WE'RE NOT WE CAN'T CONTACT THEM PRIMARILY FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING RENTED. OKAY. MANAGER.
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS IDEA? A COUPLE OF REASONS.
AND ONE OF IT WAS THE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. AND THE OTHER ONE IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE THESE SITUATIONS THAT THAT WE NEED TO REACH TO THE OWNER FOR, FOR FOR VIOLATIONS WE WEREN'T ALWAYS ABLE TO AND THERE'S SOME OTHER UNDERLYING REASONS FOR THIS FOR THIS APPROACH AS WELL. AND IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN HERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PART OF THAT CONVERSATION WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS ORDINANCE.
OKAY. SO DOES THE PROPERTY APPRAISER HAVE PROPERTY INFORMATION OF EVERY PROPERTY IN TAMARAC? THEY DO. OKAY. AND DO YOU THINK THAT EVERY PROPERTY IN TAMARAC HAVE A WATER ACCOUNT? THEY DO. AND WHO APPLIES FOR THE WATER? WELL, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON ACTUALLY FOR THIS, BECAUSE IN THOSE RENTAL PROPERTIES, THE, THE TENANT APPLIES FOR THE WATER ACCOUNT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IF THERE IS ANY MANAGER, NOT UNFORTUNATELY, ACTUALLY WHEN A RENTER IS APPLYING FOR WATER, THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY BRING A COPY OF THEIR LEASE.
AND THE LEASE SHOWS WHO THE LANDLORD IS. THEY DO.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. SO THEN IF THE CITY ALREADY HAS, IF THE CITY ALREADY HAS THE INFORMATION VIA THE WATER ACCOUNTS AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER ALREADY HAS PROPERTY INFORMATION.
WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR A REGISTRY? WELL, THE SAME PROGRAM ALSO EXISTS IN CORAL SPRINGS AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CITIES. THAT DOESN'T ANSWER, I KNOW.
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BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE IT PROVIDES IT PROVIDES AN EASY ACCESS FOR ALL OF US TO, TO TO YOU ALREADY HAVE AN EASY ACCESS.JUST ASK IT WHERE YOU MANAGED FOR ABOUT 28 YEARS TO PULL THE LIST OF ALL THE WATER ACCOUNTS AND PULL THE LIST OF ALL THE LANDLORDS FOR RENTERS. IN FACT, COMMISSIONER HAVE A REGISTRY.
YEAH, SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION ON THAT LIST.
IN FACT, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR JUST MENTIONED HOW APPROPRIATE THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE IN ASSISTING HER EFFORTS BECAUSE THAT LIST SOMETIMES DOES NOT HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION, NOR DOES THE BROWARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE.
HOW TO CONTACT THAT PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT AVAILABLE.
SO, MISS CALLOWAY, YOU THINK THAT THEY DID NOT GIVE YOU THE CONTACT INFORMATION WHEN THEY WERE OPENING THEIR WATER BILL OR PAYING THEIR WATER BILL? AND YOU THINK THAT RESIDENTS OR LANDLORDS ARE GOING TO COME IN AND GIVE YOU THEIR INFORMATION? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING BY CREATING THE REGISTRY.
YOU THINK THAT SOMEONE WHO OPENS A WATER ACCOUNT AND DOES NOT GIVE YOU THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION IS, IS GOING TO COME TO THE CITY AND GIVE YOU THEIR INFORMATION WHEN THEY HAVE NOT, WHEN THEY DID NOT EVEN GIVE YOU THEIR INFORMATION.
DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS EVEN TO GET HOA PRESIDENTS TO GIVE INFORMATION WHEN THEY ARE THE NEW PRESIDENTS OF AN HOA? PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO GIVE INFORMATION, MISS CALLOWAY, AND YOU KNOW.
SO. MISS. MISS LIEBERMAN, MISS MICHELSON BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT, BUT I WANT TO QUERY ATTORNEY THE PUBLIC DISCLOSURE EXEMPTION.
COULD THE CITY ENFORCE SUCH A EXEMPTION? ATTORNEY.
WITH RESPECT TO SHE SAID MISS LIEBERMAN SAID THAT SHE WOULD LIKE THE CITY COMMISSION TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT PROVIDES MORE INFORMATION AND ALSO AMEND CHAPTER 12 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
AND HER IDEA WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BE EXEMPT FROM PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.
CAN YOU EXEMPT SUCH INFORMATION IF IT'S NOT EXEMPT UNDER 119 WHICH IS THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW, THEN WE CANNOT EXEMPT IT. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH IT BECAUSE.
119. PUBLIC RECORDS CONTROL WHAT NEEDS TO BE EXEMPT UNDER STATE LAW.
MY CHAPTER 119. SO OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, YOU DO NOT KNOW IF CHAPTER 119 THERE'S THERE'S NUMEROUS EXEMPTIONS THAT EXIST UNDER CHAPTER 119 AND I WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MEDICAL EXEMPTION, THERE'S POLICE OFFICER ADDRESS, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADDRESS.
AND THEY ADDED SOME, SOME DIFFERENT PUBLIC OFFICIALS.
SO OKAY. YES, THERE'S THERE'S NUMEROUS, I HEARD.
OKAY. MISS GALLOWAY, YOU YOU'VE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES.
YOU MENTIONED FORT LAUDERDALE? YES, WE DID, OTHER CITIES.
CAN YOU BRING THE SLIDE WITH THE LIST? SURE. AND RELATIVE TO EXEMPTION, THE ORDINANCE HAS LANGUAGE LANDLORDS WHOSE NAME, HOME ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER ARE EXEMPT FROM PUBLIC DISCLOSURE PURSUANT TO STATE STATUTE ARE NOT SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE.
SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. I MEAN, I'M A LIST OF CITIES THAT HAVE THIS.
SO IN BROWARD COUNTY, THERE ARE TWO, FOUR, FIVE, FIVE CITIES THAT HAVE A LANDLORD REGISTRATION.
REGISTRATION. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THOSE CITIES TO SEE FIND OUT THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM? WE DID WE LOOKED AT IT. AND THEY DO HAVE REGISTRATION, NOT 100%, BUT THEY DO HAVE.
OF THOSE 40,000 PROPERTIES, HOW MANY OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS REGISTER ON THE LANDLORD LIST? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT INFORMATION? NO. SO YOU HAVE NOT BENCHMARKED THE INFORMATION TO FIND OUT IF IT'S EVEN SUCCESSFUL IN THOSE CITIES.
CORAL SPRINGS HAS HAD IT FOR GOOD. OKAY. GO AHEAD.
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SORRY. NO. PEOPLE TALK OVER ME ALL THE TIME. GO AHEAD.THAT'S NOT MY INTENT. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THESE CITIES HAVE SUCCESS WITH THESE PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE VITAL INFORMATION TO FIND OUT IF THIS WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL HERE.
ABSOLUTELY. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT FORT LAUDERDALE HAS NO FEE FOR THEIR PROGRAM.
IT'S REALLY TO ENCOURAGE REGISTRATION. AND SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WE CAN ENTERTAIN, BUT IT'S TO NOT PENALIZE NECESSARILY LANDLORD, BUT IT'S JUST TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO REGISTER.
THEY JUST NEED THE INFORMATION. HAVE YOU LOOKED, FOR INSTANCE, AT THE CITY OF MARGATE? THEIR FEE IS $225. WHAT THEY HAVE, WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH THAT FEE, WOULD IT GO IN THE GENERAL FUND OR WOULD IT SERVE ANOTHER PURPOSE? WE DIDN'T LOOK TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THEIR FEES.
SO IF WE CHARGE A FEE AND YOU COME BACK AT SECOND READING, YOU CAN FIND OUT.
PERHAPS IF WE COULD USE THE REVENUE FROM THIS PROGRAM TO PROBABLY FIX RESIDENTS DRIVEWAYS OR HAVE A CURB APPEAL PROGRAM, SO TO SPEAK. THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO. AND MARGARET PROGRAM IS VERY USER FRIENDLY AS WELL.
THEY HAVE IT ON THEIR WEBSITE. YOU CAN REGISTER RIGHT THERE ON THEIR WEBSITE.
SO OKAY. WELL WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. THANK YOU.
MAYOR. I WOULD MAYBE PROPOSE THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE FOR NOW, AND MAYBE IT JUST DEALS DIRECTLY WITH UNITS THAT ARE FOUR OR MORE IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, KIND OF TARGET THE MULTI-FAMILIES FOR NOW AND FIND AN ALTERNATIVE FOR SINGLE FAMILIES, MAYBE AN ABANDONED PROPERTY REGISTRY OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE AN ABANDONED PROPERTY REGISTRATION. WE DO.
BUT THAT'S IF THE PROPERTY IS ABANDONED AND IF IT'S OWNED BY A BANK, IF IT'S FORECLOSED UPON, THEN THE REGISTRATION IS NORMALLY THE MORTGAGEE WHO IS REGISTERING.
BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER LOOKING AT EXPANDING THAT TO INCLUDE PROPERTIES THAT YOU KNOW, THE, THE THERE IS JUST EXCESSIVE EXTERIOR ISSUES.
JUNK, TRASH, DEBRIS LANDSCAPE ISSUES, WHATEVER THAT WE NEED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE OR MAYBE LANDOWNERS THAT JUST DON'T LIVE HERE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE FOR THE ABANDONED PROPERTY.
YES, IT'S IN THE SAME SECTION. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT JUST TO SEE IF IT COVERS EVERYTHING.
I'M FINE WITH WHATEVER THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO. BUT I DO.
I KNOW SPECIFICALLY IN MY DISTRICT, I DO HAVE SOME MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS THAT CONCERN ME, AND I THINK THAT THIS COULD BE HELPFUL IN THAT RESPECT.
I'M NOT SURE HOW I FEEL NECESSARILY ABOUT THE SINGLE FAMILIES, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A GOOD VEHICLE JUST TO BE IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ISSUES IN THE MULTI-FAMILY.
AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT WHETHER WE, IF WE HAVE A FEE.
I MEAN, I THINK A PROGRAM WOULD BE GOOD IF WE DON'T HAVE A FEE.
MAYBE THE FEE COULD BE CONTINGENT ON FAILURE TO REGISTER OR TO RENEW ANNUALLY.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS SOME, TO SOME DEGREE, SOME BENEFIT HERE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THERE WAS A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY OWNER THAT SAID TO ME THAT OWNS PROPERTY IN OUR CITY THAT HE THINKS THAT HE'S RECEIVED VIOLATIONS AND HE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO HAVE BEEN CALLED TO JUST BE MADE AWARE THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE AT HIS PROPERTY, AND MAYBE WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT ON FILE. SO, I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME PROS AND SOME CONS OBVIOUSLY, TO THIS. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
AS MISS LIEBERMAN MENTIONED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
YOU KNOW, PUBLIC DISCLOSURE IS A HELL OF A THING.
WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY WHERE CHAPTER 119 IS CONCERNED? WE LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR INFORMATION.
AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WEAPONIZING THAT INFORMATION.
AND IF IT'S NOT UNDER IF IT'S NOT EXEMPT FROM PUBLIC DISCLOSURE JUST IMAGINE REALTORS AND POLITICIANS BUYING THAT LIST IN ORDER TO REACH OUT TO RESIDENTS, AND RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE INUNDATED WITH MORE ROBOCALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES AND EMAILS.
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SO TO THE EXTENT THAT RESIDENTS ARE LISTENING AND YOU'RE A LANDLORD PERHAPS YOU RENT TO A FORMER MAYOR TO MAYBE IT IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE UP YOUR INFORMATION AND RECEIVE THOSE ROBOCALLS.SO. YEAH. OKAY, SO WE GIVE OUR INFORMATION. IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE ANYWAY. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LEASE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE CONTACT INFORMATION IN THERE. CONDOS HAVE ONE METER USUALLY.
SOME CONDOS ONLY ALLOW RENTALS TO HAPPEN AFTER TWO YEARS OF OWNERSHIP, BUT THERE'S STILL A GROUP OF PEOPLE WERE NOT ABLE TO KNOW IF THEY'RE RENTING OUT OR NOT. AND WHEN WE HAVE OUR WATER BILLS, WE CAN PUT ON THE WATER BILL BEFORE WE GIVE THAT TENANT THEIR ABILITY TO PUT THE WATER ON. IF YOU'RE RELEASING THIS PROPERTY, PROVIDE THE LANDLORD'S CONTACT INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S WAYS TO DO IT. AND I THINK THERE'S COMMUNICATION WITH OUR REALTORS, COMMUNICATION WITH LANDLORDS, COMMUNICATION TO GET IT OUT THERE. THERE IS NO INSPECTION OF PEOPLE'S HOMES.
CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S JUST A REGISTRY.
SO I'VE ALREADY SAID MY PEACE. I AM FOR IT. I BELIEVE IT WILL HELP A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT DO NOT HAVE CERTAIN PROGRAMS IN PLACE FOR INTERVIEWS AND REGISTRATION PROCESSES WITHIN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY, APPLICATION PROCESSES TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION.
WE DO HAVE OLDER COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE CERTAIN PROCESSES.
AND I THINK WE COULD DEAL WITH A FEE TYPE SITUATION WHEN THAT TIME COMES AROUND.
BUT I WOULD I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. YES. COMMISSIONER ROY? RIGHT? YES. COMMISSIONER. BOLTON. YES. MAYOR.
GOMEZ. YES. VICE MAYOR DANIEL. YES. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0.
THANK YOU. 6CT02584. CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.
[6.d TO2584 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, Amending Chapter 2, Administration, "Article Ill, "Boards, Committees, Commissions," of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances, by renaming and amending Division 7, titled “Reserved”, to "Senior Citizens Advisory Committee" and adding content thereto; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; providing for codification and providing for an effective date. ]
ITEM SIX C AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION.CITY OF TAMARAC AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION.
ARTICLE THREE. BOARDS. COMMITTEE. COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION. PROVIDING FOR. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.
SO MOVED. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. I WILL NOW OPEN THIS ITEM UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY ON THE LIST WHO SIGNED UP.
IS THERE IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. MONICA BARROWS, OUR ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DISCUSS THIS ITEM AT OUR COMMISSION WORKSHOP ON MONDAY.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, ARE YOU LIT FOR QUESTION OR COMMENT OR ANYTHING? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT FOR. OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING THIS INITIATIVE.
I WILL PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MISS MENDELSON SAID.
AND WHILE SHE SHE TOOK MY MY LINE, I WAS GOING TO CALL THIS THE FABULOUS TAMARAC FIVE.
BUT SINCE SHE TOOK THAT TODAY I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM THE FABULOUS TAMARAC.
PLUS, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK I'M REALLY GOING TO BE IT.
EXCITED TO THANK YOU. I'LL BE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE.
AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S WELL OVERDUE.
I'M EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THAT GROUP AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO PROGRESS AND GROW.
I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE AN AVENUE FOR OUR 55 AND UP COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THE THINGS THAT THEY FEEL IS IMPORTANT, THEY FEEL ARE IMPORTANT. AND YOU KNOW, ON THE BEHALF OF THEIR, THEIR YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC. AND SO I DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL LEFT BEHIND AS WE GROW.
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AND I APPRECIATE AGAIN, MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU.I NEED I NEED A MOMENT, PLEASE. I WANT TO CHECK SOMETHING.
OR ACTUALLY. CITY CLERK VACANCIES DO WE HAVE IN THE ORIGINAL READING? THE CITY COMMISSION MAY REMOVE A MEMBER BY MAJORITY VOTE AT ANY TIME.
IT'S. WE ARE FOLLOWING THE SECTIONS. THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE CODE.
SO WE HAVE THE SAME RULES AS ALL THE OTHER BOARDS.
AND YES, IT CAN BE REMOVED BY THE MAJORITY. OKAY.
MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT CATCHING THAT IN OUR OTHER RULES, BUT I REALLY DON'T THINK I LIKE THAT TOO MUCH, ESPECIALLY SINCE EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY SELECT ONE.
DOES THAT MEAN THREE PEOPLE CAN JUST DETERMINE THAT THEY DON'T LIKE SOMEBODY WE'VE SELECTED AND JUST REMOVE THEM FOR NO REASON? THAT'S WHAT IT READS HERE, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.
WELL, I LOVE EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. SO I UNFORTUNATELY I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO REMOVE THESE ON PAGE FOUR OF FIVE AT SECTION 2-2 HUNDRED EIGHT VACANCIES.
THE CITY COMMISSION MAY REMOVE A MEMBER BY MAJORITY VOTE AT ANY TIME.
IF SOMEBODY IS NOT DOING THEIR JOB, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY THE LIAISON STAFF LIAISON OR THE CITY LIAISON COMMISSION LIAISON. BUT I THINK SOMEONE JUST TO SAY, WELL, I DECIDED AFTER YOUR PERSON HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR TWO MEETINGS, I DON'T LIKE THEM. LET'S BRING THEM UP AND REMOVE THEM.
IS NOT THE INTENT. SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT TO BE CHANGED.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON. MADAM, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK.
YOU DID SAY THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER BOARDS, RIGHT? YES. YES. OKAY. HOW MANY OF THE BOARDS DO WE HAVE IN TAMARAC RIGHT NOW? YES. SIX. SIX. OKAY. CITY ATTORNEY, DO YOU THINK THAT I MEAN, SHOULD WE SHOULD WE HAVE A CONSISTENCY AMONG ALL BOARDS, OR CAN THIS BOARD BE SINGLED OUT? YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A POLICY DECISION BY THE COMMISSION.
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THE OPINION OF COMMISSIONER PATTERSON WHICH SHE BELIEVES.
AND SHE. THIS IS HER IDEA. AND MANAGER IS SEEKING TO SPEAK FIRST.
THEREFORE, CITY MANAGER, I YIELD. MAYOR. SO, COMMISSIONER.
REMEMBER, IT'S BY THREE THAT'S BEEN SUPPORTED.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. PLEASE PROCEED. YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I THINK THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS ON MONDAY, THERE WAS ANOTHER AREA THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN WITH, BUT WE DECIDED TO KIND OF GO WITH WHAT ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEES ARE DOING WITH RESPECT TO APPOINTMENTS GENERALLY. RIGHT. BECAUSE I THINK I MENTIONED THAT SOMETHING ABOUT APPOINTMENTS ON MONDAY WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING AND YOU BROUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE OTHER COMMITTEES ARE DOING AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD IT WOULD MAKE SENSE JUST TO KIND OF KEEP IT.
I MY COMMENT WAS THE REQUEST WHEN WE MOVED OUT OF THE BUSINESSES, WE REMOVED BUSINESSES FROM THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE WHERE OUR OTHER BUSINESSES, OUR OTHER COMMITTEES ALLOW BUSINESSES.
BUT ON MONDAY, THERE WAS CONSENSUS BY THE COMMISSION TO REMOVE BUSINESSES FROM BEING ALLOWED TAMARAC BUSINESSES FROM BEING ALLOWED TO BE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I HAD MADE COMMENTS IN REFERENCE TO.
BUT I MADE ANOTHER COMMENT REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS SPECIFICALLY, AND I THINK I HAD SAID THAT I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE APPOINTMENT SHOULD RUN CONCURRENT WITH THE SITTING COMMISSIONER'S TERM.
IF THERE IS A PERFORMANCE ISSUE, THAT'S REMOVAL.
THE THAT PART WAS YOU CAN REMOVE THEM. THE APPOINTING COMMISSIONER CAN REMOVE THEM AT ANY TIME UNTIL THE APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE. YES. THAT'S IT. THAT WAS WHAT WE DECIDED WE WOULD KEEP, BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER WHO APPOINTED CAN REMOVE THEIR APPOINTEE AT ANY TIME.
SO WHAT'S ADDED HERE? THAT WASN'T WHAT'S HERE.
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THAT WASN'T HERE ON MONDAY IT WOULD BE JUST ALL OF IT.WHAT I MISSED IS SEEING THAT WE CAN JUST HAVE A VACANCY BY HAVING A COMMISSION.
THREE PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION. THE MAJORITY REMOVE ANY MEMBER AT ANY TIME.
THAT IS THE ITEM THAT I AM HAVING ISSUE WITH THAT I HAVE OBVIOUSLY ISSUE WITH AND AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR WHATEVER OTHER POLICIES WE HAVE, PROBABLY WILL ASK FOR THAT TO BE REMOVED AS WELL.
PLEASE DON'T. THAT'S NOT HERE NOR THERE. WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS ITEM, AND THE ITEM WAS BROUGHT ABOUT AND THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT I'M NOT SPEAKING, SO PLEASE DON'T RUN MY TIME. WE'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON TO COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON THEN ASKING ME. SO THIS IS A NOT NORMAL PROCESS, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR REMOVAL. I'M LOOKING TO SEE CITY CLERK.
WHY DON'T YOU? IF YOU WOULD RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER PATTERSON ON WHERE IT SAYS ABOUT THE REMOVAL, I SEE IT. OKAY, I SEE IT. YEAH, I SEE IT NOW.
I MEAN, I THINK IF IT'S STANDARD AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GOVERN WITH REGARDS TO EVERY OTHER COMMITTEE, IT'S. I'M FINE. OKAY. AND SO ALSO IF THE MAYOR'S AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN ENTERTAINED WOULD IT HAVE BEEN THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION OR WOULD IT HAVE BEEN MAYOR, YOUR ASK TO ALSO WHEN WE ARE DOING AN APPOINTMENT TO NOT HAVE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION CONFIRM THE THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WHEN WE WHEN WE APPOINT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO A BOARD, BORED. THEY COME BEFORE THE IT'S IN OUR INFORMATION AND THE ENTIRE COMMISSION CONFIRMS THEM.
SO HOW WOULD IT BE FAIR TO HAVE THE COMMISSION NOT ABLE TO REMOVE THEM, BUT FAIR THAT THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE THEM? I'VE NEVER SAID I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE PEOPLE, BUT I THINK WITH WHERE IT'S WRITTEN, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE COMMISSION TO REMOVE SOMEBODY LISTED IS WHAT MY ISSUE IS.
WE HAVE IT WHERE IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP FOR THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW OR 75 DAYS OR WHATEVER IT IS, THERE'S A REASON FOR REMOVAL. BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT THERE'S NO REASON FOR REMOVAL.
BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING ME IF MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF REMOVING THIS, DO I ALSO THINK WE SHOULDN'T BE AGREEING TO HAVING US HAVE A COMMISSION VOTE ON IT? I WOULD AGREE THAT THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO BE VOTING ON IT ON IT EITHER.
OKAY. SO I THINK WHAT WOULD BE FAIR PIGGYBACKING FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, IS THAT THIS REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE BOARDS, BUT THEN AT A LATER TIME, WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THE BOARDS TO SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT PART OF THE RULES WHERE THE COMMISSION MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO REMOVE A BOARD MEMBER BY MAJORITY VOTE, BUT JUST TO SINGLE OUT THIS ITEM, I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.
IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO PERHAPS BRING AN ITEM TO CHANGE ALL OF THE BOARDS AND HOW THEY OPERATE WHEN REMOVING, ADDING OR REMOVING MEMBERS, THEN I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME.
BUT JUST TO, YOU KNOW, ARBITRARILY SAY, I DON'T LIKE THIS ON THIS BOARD WHEN IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER BOARDS, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. AND THE COMMISSIONER HAS SAID THAT SHE WOULD LIKE FOR FOR IT TO REMAIN THE SAME TOO.
AND THIS IS HER ITEM. THIS IS HER BOARD THAT SHE HAS COME UP WITH THE IDEA FOR.
AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD RESPECT HER WISHES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WELL, I WANTED TO GET THROUGH THIS.
YEAH. WHILE I RESPECT THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID, THE REALITY IS WE ALREADY CHANGE THIS BOARD TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER BOARDS, AS OTHER BOARDS ALLOW US TO HAVE BUSINESSES. SO HAD I CAUGHT THIS ON MONDAY, I WOULD HAVE MADE THIS COMMENT ON MONDAY BECAUSE BUSINESSES WERE REMOVED.
AND SO THAT MAKES THIS BOARD DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS.
SO I FIND IT A LITTLE CIRCULAR THAT WE WOULD NOT BE REMOVING THIS ITEM ON IT AS WELL, TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER BOARDS WHEN WE'RE ALREADY NOT CONSISTENT WITH OUR OTHER BOARDS. SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
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COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.YES. VICE MAYOR. DANIEL. YES. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
YES. MAYOR. GOMEZ. YES. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0.
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I KNOW THAT WE ARE EXCITED TO GET THROUGH THE REST OF THIS AGENDA.
HOWEVER, IT IS 932, AND THERE ARE BATHROOM BREAKS BEING REQUESTED, SO WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 947.
YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES. WE'LL BE BACK HERE SHARP.
THANK YOU. THANKS. WELCOME BACK, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. IT IS A MINUTE AFTER. SO IT IS 948 AND WE ARE NOW ON OUR ORDINANCES.
[7.a TO2582 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, amending Chapter 2 of the city's Code of Ordinances, entitled "Administration", by specifically amending Section 2-34 entitled "Comprehensive Procedures for City Commission Meetings" by amending subsection (g) to revise the “Order of Business” relating to Public Participation and to add “Commission Reports” to the general order of business and for other purposes; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date. ]
ON SECOND READING WE ARE AT 202582. CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.YES. ORDINANCE SEVEN A AN ORDINANCE. CITY COMMISSIONER.
CITY TAMARAC AMENDED CHAPTER TWO OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCE ENTITLED ADMINISTRATION BY SPECIFICALLY AMENDING SECTION TWO DASH 34 ENTITLED COMPREHENSIVE PROCEDURE FOR CITY COMMISSION MEETS BY AMENDING SUBSECTION G TO REVISE THE ORDER OF BUSINESS RELATING TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
AND TO ADD COMMISSION REPORTS TO THE GENERAL ORDER OF BUSINESS AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE. SO MOVED.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR. I WILL NOW OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DARCY SCHULER WILL BE COMING UP TO THE PODIUM. SAME RULES APPLY FOR ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND THEN I HAVE ROBERT THOMPSON. DARCY SCHILLER, KING'S POINT.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR ME BECAUSE I LIVE IN KINGS POINT, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS, AT LEAST 4500 UNITS, SO AT LEAST 4500 SENIORS.
AS THE COMMISSION IS KNOWN IN THE PAST, I HAVE RALLIED PEOPLE HERE.
WE HAVE PACKED THE ROOM. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE OUTSIDE.
I CAN'T SEE DOING THAT TO PEOPLE STAYING HERE UNTIL TEN, 11, 12:00 AT NIGHT.
I JUST THINK THAT'S ABSURD. SO I'M GOING TO BEG, PLEAD AND GROVEL WITH THE COMMISSION TO MAYBE START THE MEETINGS AT 630 SO THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE OVER BY 7:00 AND RECONSIDER THE POSITION OF MOVING THEM TO THE END OF THE MEETING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHO WANTS TO STAY THAT LATE? AND WORKING FAMILIES CAN'T DO IT. FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, THEY CAN'T DO IT, AND SENIORS CAN'T. AND IF WE CAN COME BACK EARLIER TO 630, JUST THINK IT MAY INTERRUPT DINNER.
MAY NOT. BUT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
TO BRING IT TO THE END OF THE MEETING IS JUST GOING TO BOX OUT AT LEAST THREE QUARTERS OF EVERYONE'S CONSTITUENTS. SO ON THAT NOTE AND TALKING ABOUT HOW LATE IT IS, I HOPE YOU GUYS WILL RECONSIDER BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SAY GOOD NIGHT, GOOD NIGHT, AND GET HOME SAFELY AS ROBERT THOMPSON COMES UP.
I THEN HAVE CAROL MENDELSOHN. ROBERT THOMPSON, 8150 WEST MCNAB ROAD, CONCORD VILLAGE. I'M A NEW RESIDENT. TAMARAC.
AND WHAT THIS TELLS ME IS THAT THE COMMISSION DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.
IT'S LIKE SILENCING THE PEOPLE THAT PUT YOU AT THE DAIS.
RIGHT. I HEARD TONIGHT THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVEN'T ANSWERED EMAILS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION, HEARING WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT PUT YOU IN OFFICE ARE HERE FOR.
I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN ELECTED. I'VE BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE.
ANSWERED EVERY EMAIL, EVEN NON-CONSTITUENTS FOR ME.
OKAY. IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO KNOW THAT I WAS LISTENING TO WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY.
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CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I GUESS THERE'S CURIOSITY AS TO WHERE YOU SERVED, IF YOU WISH TO SHARE.MR. THOMPSON. OH, CONCORD VILLAGE HE'S IN CONCORD VILLAGE, DISTRICT TWO.
OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
WHEREVER YOU DID SERVE. AS CAROL MENDELSOHN IS COMING UP TO THE PODIUM.
SHARON SPRING HAD TO LEAVE DUE TO THE TIME. CANDACE WEST WILL BE NEXT.
CAROL MENDELSOHN, DISTRICT FOUR. HISTORY HAS SADLY REPEATED ITSELF.
THE TAMARAC FIVE WILL PERSEVERE, AS OTHERS HAVE DONE FOR DECADES.
AS ELECTED OFFICERS, IT IS INCUMBENT UPON YOU TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEN MAKE THE BEST DECISION BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE PERSON WHO HAS PROCLAIMED AGREEMENT TO MOVING PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE BACK END OF THE COMMISSION MEETINGS. YOU CAN SKEW AND TWIST INFORMATION TO SUIT YOUR WISHES, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THIS COMMISSION DID NOT HEAR ANYTHING.
AGAIN, THANK YOU, MAYOR GOMEZ AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT FOR HEARING AND LISTENING TO THE VOICE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND VOTING AGAINST THIS MOVE TO THE BACK OF THE COMMISSION MEETING TO MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE BACK INTENTIONALLY STIFLES THE TO THE PUBLIC FROM SPEAKING ON TOPICS IMPORTANT TO THEM AND THE CITY.
IF THE GOAL IS TO KEEP US REMAINING UNTIL THE END OF EACH MEETING AND LISTEN TO YOUR CHILDISH BICKERING, YOU WILL ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL. MANY CONSTITUENTS CANNOT STAY UNTIL THE END AND WISH TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND ADDRESS ISSUES THAT MAY ALTER YOUR PERCEPTION ON A TOPIC. I DOUBT THAT YOU WILL LISTEN TO THE VOICE OF THE CONSTITUENTS WHO VOTED YOU INTO THE SEATS YOU CURRENTLY RESIDE IN.
I SPEAK FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNABLE TO BE HERE AND OR REMAIN UNTIL THE END OF EACH MEETING.
PLEASE HEAR OUR VOICE AND DO NOT MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE BACK OF THE MEETING.
WE ASK THAT YOU ALLOW JUSTICE AND EQUALITY TO PREVAIL.
LISTEN TO THE TO THE PEOPLE. WE HAVE A DREAM TOO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AS CANDACE WEST IS COMING DOWN, KATE JOHNSON IS ON DECK.
THESE ARE HARD WORKING FOLKS. THEY LOVE THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
THEY WOULD LOVE TO BE MORE COLLABORATIVE WITH THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND BE INVOLVED.
AND MOVING THESE COMMENTS TO THE BACK OF THE MEETING ACTUALLY FEELS PUNITIVE AND MEAN AND PUNISHING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AS KATE JOHNSON IS COMING TO THE PODIUM, JEFFREY SHAPIRO IS NEXT.
KATE JOHNSON. MAINLAND'S FOR. I HAVE ALREADY SET ALL THE REASONS THAT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED TO THE END OF THE MEETINGS, INCLUDING IT DOES NOT ALLOW RESIDENTS TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM AND NO, ALLOWING THEM SPEAK TO SPEAK. AT FIRST, READING DOES NOTHING FOR INDIVIDUAL CONCERNS OR OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT THEY MAY WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT, SO IT DOES LIMIT OUR SPEECH. TODAY.
THERE ARE THREE OTHER ITEMS THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME WANT TO COMMENT ON.
I DID SO ON ONE OF THEM. IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING, YOU WOULD HAVE HEARD NOTHING.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, COMMENTS PRIOR TO RENAMING KINGS POINT CAUSED THIS COMMISSION TO TAKE MORE TIME AND INVESTIGATE THE COST, AND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE REPORTED ON TODAY.
NO OTHER CITY IN OUR AREA PUSHES PUBLIC PARTICIPATION TO THE END AS COMMISSIONER RIGHT INVESTIGATED.
AND I HAVE ASKED OTHERS I KNOW IN AREA CITIES.
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OUR COMMUNITIES. WHY ARE WE TRYING TO EXCLUDE, RATHER THAN INCLUDE ALL RESIDENTS VOICES FROM THIS COMMISSION? AND AS COMMISSIONER RIGHTS ARE RIGHTLY STATED, WANT TO RELEGATE THEM TO THE BACK? THE DEFINITION OF EQUITY IS QUALITY OF BEING FAIR AND IMPARTIAL, AND FAIRNESS OR JUSTICE IN THE WAY PEOPLE ARE TREATED.YOU ALL KNOW THAT MAKING RESIDENTS WAIT UNTIL THE END IS UNFAIR AND EXCLUSIONARY.
MOST RESIDENTS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WAIT TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
LOOK AT THE LAST MEETING THAT STARTED AT 9:30 A.M.
AND FINISHED AT 2:30 P.M. THAT'S FIVE HOURS. MEANING IF TONIGHT WAS A FIVE HOUR MEETING, AS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, AND LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE, IT WOULD BE MIDNIGHT BEFORE RESIDENTS COULD EXPRESS CONCERNS.
NO ONE FROM TAMARAC HAS SPOKEN IN FAVOR OF IT EXCEPT THREE COMMISSIONERS.
WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN AGAINST MOVING THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, THE RESPONSES FROM THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ISSUE ARE THAT PEOPLE CAN EMAIL THEIR CONCERNS. BUT AS WE HEARD AGAIN TODAY, PEOPLE DON'T RESPOND TO EMAILS.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T MIND HEARING FROM THEIR FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS AT ANY OPPORTUNITY.
I WONDER WHY OTHERS DO REMEMBER PERCEPTION AND ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN YOUR WORDS.
TO THE CONTRARY. THANK YOU. AS JEFFREY SHAPIRO IS COMING TO THE PODIUM, MARK GOGGIN IS NEXT.
JEFFREY SHAPIRO, WOODLANDS, TAMARAC. I AM VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BEING MOVED TO THE END OF THE MEETING. AS YOU CAN ALREADY SEE, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN DONE WITH THIS AGENDA YET.
WE WOULDN'T MAYBE NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.
YOU HAVE A TIME LIMIT FOR THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND THEN THE EVENING ONE GOES TO 11, MAYBE 1130, IF YOU ALL AGREE. IF YOU GET THROUGH ALL YOUR ITEMS AT A AT TEN MINUTES TO 11, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO HEAR THE PEOPLE THAT BOTHERED TO STAY.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LIMITING THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHEN THEY FIND THAT THE CITY WILL ONLY HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THEY WON'T EVEN BOTHER TO SHOW UP. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST DEGRADING TO THE CITY.
AND IT REALLY IT REALLY DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. IF OTHER CITIES GET WIND OF HOW YOU'RE TREATING YOUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A WIN FOR THEM AND A LOSS FOR THE CITY.
AND I'M JUST VEHEMENTLY, VEHEMENTLY AGAINST IT AND I HOPE THAT YOU RECONSIDER TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAVE A NICE EVENING.
BYE. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. IF YOU'RE HEADING HOME, GET HOME SAFELY.
AS MARK OGDEN IS COMING UP, PATTI LYNN IS.
HERE. GOOD EVENING. MARK OGDEN FROM EAST TAMARAC, 24 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE CITY.
AS I SAID EARLIER, ALL FIVE OF YOU WORK FOR US.
YOU ARE PAID BY US. YES. YOU MIGHT PAY TAXES.
WELL, NOT EVERYONE ON HERE PAYS TAXES, BUT WE'RE PAYING YOUR SALARY.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT, AS OTHER CITIES DO, OF SPEAKING FIRST.
THAT IS OUR RIGHT. YOU HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION.
YOU RAN FOR THIS JOB. DID YOU NOT READ YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION? YOU'RE HERE TO ANSWER AND SERVE AND ASK QUESTIONS AND GET QUESTIONS FROM THE CITY MR. MANAGER. IF THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION, MAKE SURE THEY GET ONE TOMORROW SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR JOB IS.
IT'S HERE TO LISTEN TO US AND NOT PUT US IN THE BACK END OF THE TRASH.
THERE'S TOO MUCH TO GO ON. THIS COMMUNITY IS ALREADY BADMOUTHED AROUND, NOT ONLY IN BROWARD COUNTY, PALM BEACH, TALLAHASSEE. PEOPLE ALL KNOW THAT WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE FROM TAMARAC.
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OH, WE SEE EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON ABOUT THAT COMMISSION MEETING, AND SHE'S LAUGHING AND SMIRKING AT IT NOW.THEY ASK THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT, AND THEY LISTEN TO US.
AS PATTY IS THE LAST PERSON THAT I HAVE SIGNED UP, IT'LL THEN BE.
YOU'LL COME. THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. PATTY LYNN, MAINLAND'S EIGHT.
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S TOO LATE FOR ME TO BE UP AND ABOUT.
I'M WAY PAST MY BEDTIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND WHO WAS THE WISE PERSON WHO SAID, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT. I WAS REALLY INSULTED.
REALLY INSULTED WHEN A COMMISSIONER SAID, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF YOU THAT TALK ANYWAY. THAT.
THAT WAS DEGRADING. THAT WAS DEGRADING. AND THE TAMARAC FIVE.
IT'S NOT A BUNCH OF OLD RETIRED PEOPLE. WE'RE.
WE'RE OLD. WE'RE NOT RETIRED. THE CONSENT AGENDA COMES EARLY.
IF YOU MOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WHY? WHY WAS THIS BEING DONE? WHY? WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND IT? OBVIOUSLY, PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE STIFLED. WE LOST FOUR PEOPLE.
WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. THAT'S THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR VOTE. AND DON'T DO THIS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S. YEP. GOT HEATHER CRAIG COMING DOWN. BE NEXT. YEAH. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS HEATHER CRAIG AND I LIVE IN WOODMONT COUNTRY CLUB FOR 25 YEARS, SINCE 1999.
I'VE BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER HERE, CONTRIBUTED IN MANY WAYS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
SERVED ON DIFFERENT HOA BOARDS AS WELL. SO THE REASON THAT I TOOK MY TIME THIS EVENING TO JOIN EVERYBODY HERE TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT VOTE IS THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF PUSHING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION TO THE END OF YOUR AGENDA.
PUSHING US BACK TELLS US THAT YOU DO NOT WANT US TO BE HEARD.
IT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT IF THERE IS SOMETHING TO HIDE OR MANIPULATE, TRANSPARENCY IS ESSENTIAL.
AND WE HAVE FAITH IN YOU BECAUSE OF THOSE STANCES THAT YOU'LL TAKE.
YOUR MISSION, AS IT SAYS IN THESE WALLS HERE, THAT IS EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE.
SO EXCEPTIONAL, EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE WOULD NOT BE PUSHING US BACK TO THE END OF THE LINE.
RIGHT. IT WOULD BE CONSIDERING OUR TIME AS WELL.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF I MADE MY CLIENTS WAIT FOR ME TO TAKE CARE OF MY BUSINESS BEFORE I ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CLIENTS. SO I ASK YOU AGAIN TO PLEASE CONSIDER OUR FEELINGS, OUR VOTE, AND OUR VIEW TO NOT PUSH US TO THE BACK OF THE LINE.
WE SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
HI, TYLER. HI, LAUREN. FAIR. 8293 NORTHWEST 70TH STREET, DISTRICT FOUR.
I'M NOT SURE WHOSE IDEA THIS WAS, BUT I VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER STIFLING THE VOICES OF YOUR RESIDENTS.
THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY ELECTED YOU TO THESE SEATS.
YOU ARE HERE TO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY AND SERVE US.
THEY'RE ALREADY IN BED. WE HAVE PARENTS, WE HAVE FAMILIES.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO GET UP AT 5 A.M. TO GO TO WORK.
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I THINK YOU SHOULD BE HERE TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS.I AGREE WITH MISS SCHILLER'S IDEA TO START THE MEETINGS EARLIER.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MISS DANIELS, MY COMMISSIONER ON YOUR BIO ON THE CITY OF TAMARAC WEBSITE, IT SAYS YOUR GOAL IS TO BUILD A STRONG SYSTEM OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT TO MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS, FROM THE BABIES TO THE GRANDPARENTS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS WHEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO HEAR THEM? BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO STAY THIS LATE FOR A MEETING? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM THAT HAS NOT YET SPOKEN OR SIGNED UP? PLEASE FORGIVE HER GRAMMAR BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS OFF. IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AFTER THIS ITEM MISS MASON WILL BE THE LAST PERSON.
UNLESS THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. OKAY.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VIOLA WATSON.
I LIVE IN LAKE OF CARRIAGE HILL ON THIS SUBJECT.
IT REALLY APPALLS ME. I WONDERED IF YOU GUYS DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO SILENCE THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY PUT YOU IN POSITION? THIS CITY BELONGS TO ALL OF US. WE VOTED FOR YOU.
YOU SHOULD WANT TO HEAR FROM US. IF YOU MOVE THIS BACK TO THE END OF THE MEETING, THEN MOST OF THE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE LEFT, WHICH ALSO HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED TONIGHT. MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK IS ALREADY GONE.
I INVITED QUITE A FEW PEOPLE TO COME HERE, AND IT WAS VERY DISCOURAGING TO HEAR WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
THEY DON'T WANT TO COME HERE. THIS CITY BELONGS TO US.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, HANS ORTNER, IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
IT NOW LEADS US TO DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION VICE MAYOR.
NOW, YOU COULD SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEM AT THE MOMENT THAT THAT AGENDA ITEM WAS READ.
THE CITY MANAGER CITY STAFF WILL ALSO ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK IN THE BEGINNING.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO BE FIXED OR STREET LIGHT OUT OR ANYTHING.
THEY'LL BE HERE TO HELP YOU IN THE BEGINNING.
SO ONE, THERE IS MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THAT'S ADDED WITH WITH THIS.
THE NEXT THING IS IF YOU WERE THERE, I SUGGESTED OKAY THE DAY MEETINGS IT GO AFTER THE MEETING? PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE NIGHT MEETING. WE STAY BEFORE NO ONE AGREED TO THAT.
SO PLEASE KNOW THAT THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION. THEY MEET AND IT GOES AFTER THE MEETING NIGHT.
MEETING. IT GOES BEFORE. NOBODY IN THE COMMISSION AGREED TO THAT.
BUT NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'S MISUNDERSTANDING.
NO VOICE IS BEING STIFLED. YOUR VOICE CAN HURT BEFORE.
EVERY DISCUSSION ON EVERY ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA WHICH OCCURRED TODAY.
YES IT CAN. YES IT WILL AND YES IT CAN. SO IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR OR TALK ABOUT, YOU CAN CANNOT. NO, NO, NO. YES YOU CAN. PLEASE.
NO ONE'S VOICE IS BEING STIFLED. THAT'S THE LEAST.
AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE TOO, THERE'S SO MANY MEANS OF COMMUNICATION, YOU CAN STILL BE HEARD.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE CONFUSION IS, BUT PLEASE STOP GIVING THAT MISINFORMATION.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. THANK YOU.
MAYOR. CAN WE JUST. IS THE MANAGER THE. IS THIS YOUR AGENDA OR IS IT THE MAYOR'S AGENDA? CITY MANAGER? THE AGENDA IS PREPARED BY CITY MANAGER.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO JUST ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I DO SEE THAT THE THE PUBLIC, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION. AND I REALLY, REALLY WANT TO CLEAR UP THE CONFUSION.
DID WAS WAS THE PUBLIC ABLE TO SPEAK ON EVERY ITEM ON THE AGENDA PRIOR TO TWO WEEKS AGO? NO, THEY WERE NOT. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THE PUBLIC COULD NOT SPEAK ON?
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THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCES, I BELIEVE, WAS THE ITEMS THAT THE PUBLIC WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK FIRST.RIGHT. FIRST OR SECOND. SO IF IN FIRST READING.
CONSENT AGENDA, FIRST READING AND WORKSHOP. RIGHT.
SO PRIOR TO TWO WEEKS AGO, AND I BELIEVE WHEN EILEEN CAME TO THE PODIUM TO GIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, SHE WANTED TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM ON FIRST READING, AND SHE SAID, OH, NOW WE CAN SPEAK ON FIRST READING WHEN THE MAYOR AND SHE WENT AND SAT DOWN. SO I JUST WANT TO REALLY MAKE THAT EXPLICITLY CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THAT.
ADDITIONALLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT DOES THIS, DOES DOES PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROHIBIT ANYONE FROM SPEAKING? NO, IT NO, IT DOES NOT. OKAY. SO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SPECIFICALLY REFERS TO ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA OR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.
OKAY, SO FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING STIFLED.
WHAT WE'RE WHAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE TODAY I UNDERSTAND, IS MOVING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, WHICH IS ONLY IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? YEAH. I WANT TO DISTINGUISH THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND PUBLIC HEARING.
SO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CORRECT.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS. MADAM, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
WE'VE ACTUALLY ALLOWED NOW FOR EVERYONE TO SPEAK ON EVERYTHING ON THIS AGENDA.
IS THAT CORRECT? NO. THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS FOR THE CURRENTLY BEFORE THIS.
THIS ORDINANCE IS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE PUBLIC IS ALLOWED TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC HEARING AT THE TIME OF THE AGENDA ITEM. WHY IS THE PUBLIC STILL SAYING THAT? THEY FEEL LIKE THEY. WHAT CAN'T THEY SPEAK ON THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
THE CITY MANAGER CONSENT IS IS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. SO THAT CITY MANAGER. RIGHT. SO CONSENT CONSENT AGENDA IS DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THEREFORE THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AT THAT TIME.
POINT OF CLARIFICATION. AND AND SECTION TEN OF THE AGENDA.
CORRECT. COULD THEY SPEAK ON OTHER OR SECTION TEN OF THE AGENDA BEFORE THIS ORDINANCE.
IT IS PART OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. YES. THEY COULD.
SO, OKAY. SO WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS NOW? BECAUSE WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS WHAT THEY'RE ALL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS WE ARE MOVING THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION COMPONENT OF THIS MEETING, WHICH IS REFERENCE THE PUBLIC SPEAKING ON THE SKY BEING BLUE UNTIL AFTER WE'VE HANDLED THE MATTERS OF THE CITY.
AM I NOT CORRECT IN UNDERSTANDING THAT BECAUSE I'M LOOKING HERE AT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THEY'RE HERE FOR AN ITEM ON THIS AGENDA.
SEVEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE, I WOULD EVEN PROFFER THAT WE MOVE PROCLAMATIONS.
I THINK THAT WE ARE HERE TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.
WE'VE ALLOWED THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON EVERY SINGLE LEGISLATIVE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
EVERYTHING THAT THIS BOARD IS GOING TO VOTE ON.
IF IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S ON CONSENT, IF IT'S AN ITEM THAT'S ON CONSENT.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT AN ITEM THAT'S ON CONSENT, THEY CAN OR CANNOT SPEAK.
THEY CAN SPEAK. BUT AT THE TIME OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, AND IF IT'S MOVED TO THE END OF THE AGENDA, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
OKAY. SO WE PUBLISHED THE AGENDA A WEEK IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
RIGHT. CORRECT. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S AN ITEM ON CONSENT, CONSENT JUST MEANS THAT THE STAFF FEELS LIKE THERE'S NOT EVEN ANYTHING FOR THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS. RIGHT. WE JUST CONSENT MEANS THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO MOVE IT AND KEEP IT PUSHING.
BECAUSE THIS IS A PROCEDURAL ROUTINE IN NATURE.
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THE CITY. WE WANT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH PROCESSES THAT HAVE BEEN DELIBERATED ON THROUGH COMMITTEES AND DIFFERENT OUTLETS TO BE ABLE TO BE HEARD.AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ANY OTHER ITEM, YOU'RE MORE THAN HAPPY.
WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU AND EVERY OTHER VEHICLE, WHETHER IT'S EMAIL, WHETHER IT'S COMING AFTER THE MEETING, WHATEVER THE CASE IS, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
THIS IS NOT TO STIFLE. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I THINK ULTIMATELY, OUR OBJECTIVE ONLY IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HANDLE THE MATTERS IN THE CITY, THE MATTERS OF THE CITY EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY, AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO DO OUTSIDE OF THAT WILL DO IT AFTER WE'VE LEGISLATED. THAT'S IT. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE IS ANY INTENTION HERE TO STIFLE ANYONE.
I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THAT INTENTION. I JUST WANT TO RESPECT OUR DEVELOPERS.
I WANT TO RESPECT THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY I BELIEVE THAT I WOULD SUPPORT THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON. ALL RIGHT.
DID I HEAR, MANAGER, THAT NOW, AFTER THIS LEGISLATION HAS PASSED, RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT WORKSHOP AS WELL? NO. SO DID YOU BRING THAT UP? DID ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS BRING THAT UP AS WELL? COMMISSIONER PATTERSON DID BRING THAT UP, RIGHT? YES. THANK YOU. THAT THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS ON THE MATTER, BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE TO SPEAK AT WORKSHOP.
COMMISSIONER. BOLTON. THAT'S NOT THE ITEM BEFORE US. MY TIME.
YOU CAN RECLAIM YOUR TIME, BUT YOU'RE BRINGING UP AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED AT THIS TIME WHEN COMMISSIONER PATTERSON BROUGHT UP THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT WORKSHOP, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT AND MAYOR GOMEZ DID NOT SUPPORT IT.
YOU SUPPORTED IT THERE. OKAY. SO WHATEVER. SO, NO, NO, NO.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT TO GO.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER HERE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BEING MOVED TO SECOND TO LAST, AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE COMMISSION REPORTS.
STICK TO THE TOPIC OF WHAT'S ON AT HAND. YOU WANT TO BRING UP A DIFFERENT WORKSHOP AT ANOTHER TIME.
YOU CAN BRING IT UP AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA.
PROCEED. ITEMS THAT ARE ON CONSENT AGENDA TRADITIONALLY ARE DISCUSSED AT WORKSHOP.
ON WHAT? ON WHAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT COMMISSIONER PATTERSON ON HER REQUEST TO HAVE RESIDENTS BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE WORKSHOP, AND PLEASE PUT THAT ON THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.
SO PEOPLE, RESIDENTS, WE WE WILL CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO YOU.
IF THIS PASSES TONIGHT AND GOES TO THE BACK OF THE MEETING, YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE END.
NUMBER TWO YOU WAITED TONIGHT. YOU WAITED TONIGHT.
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK. YOU WAITED TONIGHT.
IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU SPEAK. YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT.
THE THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AS WELL. TO SIT AND LEARN IS ALSO AFFORDED TO YOU.
YES, DOCTOR JOHNSON, I SEE YOUR FACE. IT'S. IT IS AFFORDED TO YOU.
AND BY THE WAY, MY PARENTS TOLD ME. LISTEN BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
FEELINGS US AND YOU DON'T SPEAK FROM THE AUDIENCE, MA'AM.
JUST ME. ACTUALLY, SHE IS THE RESIDENT MISS JOHNSON.
DOCTOR JOHNSON IS ACTUALLY RIGHT. YOU SHOULD NOT BE CALLING OUT RESIDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE.
YEAH AND WHAT ABOUT THE FEELING OF STAFF? WHAT ABOUT THE FEELINGS OF THE DEVELOPERS AS WELL? THEY HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THESE MEETINGS. YOU TALK ABOUT COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY.
THERE'S COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY. THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING ONLINE.
I'M SURE DOCTOR SCHILLER IS WATCHING ONLINE FROM HER BEDROOM AND SENIOR CITIZENS.
AT LEAST ONE PERSON ON THIS COMMISSIONER IS ALSO SENIOR CITIZEN.
AND. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YOU'RE NOT A SENIOR.
YOU'RE THE SENIOR ONE HERE? YEAH. AND SO AGAIN, EVERYTHING THAT IS ON THE AGENDA YOU CAN GET TO SPEAK ON. RIGHT. AND IF IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE COMMISSION THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SAY HERE IN
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THESE COMMISSION CHAMBERS, YOU CAN EMAIL THE COMMISSIONER DOES NOT RESPOND TO YOUR EMAIL.EMAIL THE MAYOR. SHE'S VERY GOOD AT RESPONDING TO EMAILS.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO OTHER AVENUES THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO TALK TO THE COMMISSION.
CHEW AND CHAT WITH DOCTOR DANIEL COMMISSIONER ON THE CORNER WITH COMMISSIONER MURRAY.
RIGHT. MOBILE OFFICE WITH COMMISSIONER MARLON BOLTON.
YOU HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. SO NOBODY IS TAKING ANYBODY'S RIGHT.
YOU'RE YOU'RE GETTING MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK.
YOU'RE GETTING MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE PROCEEDINGS.
OKAY. I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE I'M GOING TO BEGIN HERE.
YOU'VE GOTTEN ONE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AND THAT'S NOW AT FIRST READING.
THAT IS IT. THAT HAS BEEN THE ONLY CHANGE SO FAR.
ITEM NUMBER TEN. USUALLY YOU CANNOT SPEAK ABOUT THE POINT OF BEING ABLE TO SPEAK IN THE BEGINNING IS TO GIVE US YOUR OPINIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY, ON ANY ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THAT IS WORKSHOP.
IF IT WAS WORKSHOP BECAUSE WE HAD TIME FOR IT.
BUT SOMETIMES 6 TO 8 HOUR WORKSHOPS, WE DON'T GET THROUGH EVERYTHING.
BUT YOU SPEAKING AT THAT DAY WON'T REALLY HELP EITHER, NOW WILL IT? WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THINGS SHORTER, ALLEGEDLY.
SO, SPEAKING AT THE END OF A MEETING AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WOULD HAVE YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE YOUR PIECE SAY YOUR PIECE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, NOR WOULD IT HAVE YOU ABLE TO SAY ANYTHING ON WORKSHOP ITEMS, POTENTIALLY, DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT MIGHT GET CHANGED IF THIS SHOULD GO THROUGH, BECAUSE LEGISLATIVE ACCORDING TO THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN WOULD BE WORKSHOP ITEMS AND THEN REPORTS WOULD BE AFTER THAT.
BUT IF YOU WORK, YOU DON'T HAVE A TIME CERTAIN AT A 930 MEETING, OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO BED AND YOU WANT TO, YOU HAVE TO WORK THE LATE SHIFT, OR YOU HAVE TO GET UP EARLY, OR YOU HAVE FAMILY TO PUT TO SLEEP, YOU KNOW, TUCK INTO BED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
DEVELOPERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, FORGIVE ME, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.
YOU GET PAID, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE BUYING INTO WHEN YOU'RE COMING TO A COMMISSION MEETING.
IN A CITY COMMISSION MEETING, YOU MIGHT HAVE WISHED THAT YOU HAD A DAY MEETING, BUT YOU STILL MIGHT HAVE BEEN HERE UNTIL THE EVENING, SO IT REALLY MIGHT NOT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO.
SO I THINK THAT WE ALSO DON'T PUBLISH OUR AGENDA UNTIL USUALLY FRIDAY.
SOMETIMES IT'S FRIDAY NIGHT, SO IT'S NOT EVEN FULL BUSINESS DAYS.
YOU GET THREE BUSINESS DAYS, MAYBE SOMETIMES FOUR.
SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY ASK US QUESTIONS ABOUT, BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN A PRESENTATION OR THE THING IS NOT COMPLETE BECAUSE IT SAYS WAIT FOR THE NEXT FREE FOR THE MEETING.
I THINK PUTTING IT TO THE BACK END HAS A LEGALLY CHILLING EFFECT.
IT HAS BEEN SAID IN VERY DIFFERENT WAYS BY EVERYBODY, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE SAYING THAT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SHARE WITH US FOR SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU, THAT YOU ARE COMING TO THE HOUSE THAT YOU BUILT, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU WAIT.
AND YES, YOU CAN REACH US FOR OTHER THINGS, BUT SOMETIMES THE RESPONSES YOU MAY RECEIVE IF YOU ARE RESPONDED TO, MAY NOT BE THE ONES YOU WANT TO HEAR. MAYBE YOU WANT TO CHANGE IN POLICY, AND NONE OF US CAN DO THAT INDIVIDUALLY ALONE, BECAUSE IT TAKES THREE OF US TO MOVE ANYTHING FORWARD.
SOMEBODY MAY HAVE AN IDEA, BUT IF IT'S NOT GIVEN A GRANT BY THREE, IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE.
THERE'S SOME TEAMWORK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY.
AND SO IF WE PUT THE RESIDENTS AND EVEN BUSINESS OWNERS, VISITORS HAVE COME TO SPEAK TO US.
THEY TELL US ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SHARE THEIR PEACE WITH US BECAUSE WHY STAY TILL WHATEVER TIME IT MIGHT BE? IF IT'S A 930 MEETING OR TEN OR A 7 P.M. MEETING? AND QUITE HONESTLY, WE ARE SAYING WE ARE NOT OPEN FOR BUSINESS WITH SOME OF THE STUFF WE'RE DOING AND WE'RE NOT OPEN FOR LISTENING.
THAT IS MY OPINION. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
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COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.I SPECIFICALLY ASKED, WHY IS THE PUBLIC NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT WORKSHOP? I WOULD LOVE IF YOU GUYS GO AND RUN THE TAPE.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE WAS THIS BROUGHT FOR POLITICAL PURPOSE.
IT HAS BECOME A POLITICAL AGENDA. AND SADLY, THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS INTENDED SIMPLY FOR EFFICIENCY.
IF YOU GUYS, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WHAT WAS BROUGHT WAS I BELIEVE IF I CAN RECOLLECT AND MY COLLEAGUES CAN CAN ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT WAS SAID, WHY AREN'T THEY ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT WORKSHOP? WHY AREN'T THEY ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON FIRST ON FIRST READING? AT NO POINT HAVE I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF A TIME I'VE HEARD ANYONE TALK ABOUT AN ITEM ON CONSENT.
SO TO MAKE THIS ABOUT PUBLIC, TO MAKE THIS ABOUT CONSENT AGENDA, MAYOR, I THINK IS REALLY NOT NOT FAIR TO THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED. REALLY AND TRULY, EVERYTHING THAT WAS INTENDED BEHIND THIS WAS FOR EFFICIENCY SAKE.
WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT COME TO US AND TALK ABOUT WE WANT MORE RESTAURANTS.
WE WANT TO BE GOOD BUSINESS. WE WANT TO BE STEWARDS OF GOOD BUSINESS.
WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH OUR DEVELOPERS AND PARTNER WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH OUR CITY AND BE GOOD PARTNERS, NOT TAKE A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ITEM AND TURN IT INTO A POLITICAL AGENDA.
NO ONE IS TRYING TO STIFLE THE PUBLIC. I CERTAINLY HAVE NO INTENT.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, ILL ADVISED TO GO RUN THAT COMMISSION MEETING, EXCUSE ME, THAT WORKSHOP AND AND INFORM YOURSELF OF EXACTLY WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ALL THE SPINS ON THIS TOPIC.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON. OKAY, SO NOW YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT FIRST READING.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA EXCEPT FOR CONSENT AGENDA.
HOWEVER, THOSE ITEMS THAT APPEAR ON CONSENT AGENDA, YOU'RE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THEM AT WORKSHOP.
NOW, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.
WHEN YOU COME HERE TO THE MIC AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK, WHAT DO YOU SPEAK ABOUT? WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT'S THE SOLUTION? BECAUSE THEN THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO DIRECT YOU TO STAFF, AND THAT STAFF WILL MEET YOU OUTSIDE OR AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.
SO YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO ME OR TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR TO THE MAYOR, AND THE MAYOR WILL MEET WITH YOU OR SEND YOU TO STAFF. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE, THEN, OF SPEAKING? LEAVING YOUR NICE, LOVELY BEDS AND SPEAKING ON AN ITEM THAT YOU'RE ALREADY SPEAKING ON ON THE AGENDA.
YOU HAVE ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON EVERY SINGLE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
AND IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM TEN BECAUSE.
THAT ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA AND YOU CAN'T SPEAK ON IT, GUESS WHAT? PUBLIC PARTICIPATION COMES RIGHT AFTER THAT. YOU CAN LISTEN BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND THEN MAKE A REBUTTAL.
IT ACTUALLY GIVES YOU A BETTER BENEFIT. BOTH OF THEM ARE AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.
THINK ABOUT IT. THINKING IS FUNDAMENTAL. YES YES, YES.
ARE WE GETTING RID OF CONSENT AGENDA ON THE FEBRUARY OR THE SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH? I'M NOT SURE IF I'M FOLLOWING YOU, MAYOR. CONSENT AGENDA IS ON BOTH MEETINGS.
CORRECT? THE FOURTH AND THE FOURTH. WEDNESDAY AND THE FIFTH, FOURTH, SECOND AND FOURTH WEDNESDAYS.
THAT'S HOW IT WORK OUT. THAT'S HOW IT WILL WORK OUT.
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DO WE? NO. SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT? WE NOW HAVE TO WORKSHOPS.TIME IS NOT RUNNING. SO WE NOW HAVE TO WORKSHOP EVERY SINGLE ITEM ON CONSENT.
WE NOW HAVE TO HAVE A LONGER CONSENT ON MONDAYS.
WORKSHOPS. MAYOR. UNLESS INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS ASK FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA.
CITY MANAGER AND THE TEAM DECIDES WHICH ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE THE WORKSHOP AND THE COMMISSION AGENDA, SO WE WOULD PICK ACCORDINGLY. BUT IF WE ARE NOW SAYING THAT WE WILL WORKSHOP AND PEOPLE WILL HAVE ABILITY TO SPEAK AT THE WORKSHOP, BECAUSE THAT'S FOR EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA THAT WOULD COME ON THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
THERE'S NO GUIDANCE IN THAT REGARD AT THIS POINT.
RIGHT. AND SO THEN ALSO WE'RE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN THE BEGINNING WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT ITEMS ON CONSENT, WHICH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY, I THINK IT WAS RECENTLY ACTUALLY.
BUT MAYBE IN PAST COMMISSIONS, PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN UP AND SPOKEN ON THINGS THAT ARE ON CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH HAVE HAD THINGS PULLED, BUT THEY HAVE SPOKEN ON THEM.
AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ABILITY TO SPEAK ON CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE ALREADY PASSED USUALLY, AND IT'S AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
OKAY. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETELY REVAMP THE WAY WE DO CERTAIN THINGS.
AND THEN ACTUALLY IF THE LEGISLATION SAYS IT WILL BE AFTER THE END OF LEGISLATIVE ITEMS. SO THEN I ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE I BELIEVE WHOEVER DRAFTED THIS SAID THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH IT ANYWAY.
I JUST NEED TO CLARIFY THAT. DO YOU REALLY OWN THE AGENDA? I DO, BUT THE COMMISSIONERS ALREADY ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THE AGENDA FOR THE ITEMS THAT THEY WISH TO SEE.
SO YOU CAN ALSO TECHNICALLY MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AGENDA. THE CONSENT PORTION OF THE AGENDA TO THE END OF THE MEETING.
AT TIMES, THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED RELOCATION OF THOSE ITEMS. FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END, OR FROM THE END TO THE BEGINNING.
BECAUSE, MANAGER, IF THE PUBLIC IS SAYING THAT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO.
SPEAK ON ALL ITEMS, INCLUDING THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT WOULD BE ONLY FAIR.
CONSENT AGENDA SOMETIMES ONLY TAKES TWO SECONDS.
IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN IN OUR CHARTER.
RIGHT NOW THIS IS SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE.
CONSENT IS LISTED AS ITEM. BASICALLY RIGHT AFTER A LEGISLATION.
SO IF THERE'S A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING.
ACTUALLY, CITY ATTORNEY THIS THIS ITEM IS SECOND READING.
INCORRECT. IT IS NOT INCORRECT. IF ATTORNEY AGAIN, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
CORRECT. YOU CAN MAKE CHANGE NON-SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
BUT IF IF WE'RE BASICALLY CHANGING ITEMS THAT THE ORDER OF BUSINESS, THEN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD TAKE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH AND CONSIDER THAT AS A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE.
AND WE GO BACK TO FIRST READING. BUT YOU CAN MAKE NON-SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES, BUT WHEN IT'S SUBSTANTIVE, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO FIRST READING BECAUSE IT WAS ADVERTISED AND PUBLISHED.
ASSISTANTS AND JUST JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
GO AHEAD. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS BASICALLY CREATED BY MANAGEMENT.
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AND THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC, RIGHT, WHICH YOU DID TONIGHT.COMMISSIONER. BOLTON. SO IF THERE'S AN ITEM THAT FEEL THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
YOU PULL IT. OKAY. OKAY. POINT OF ORDER. POINT OF ORDER.
ATTORNEY IN IN OTHER CITIES IS FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO PULL ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
CORRECT? CITY ATTORNEY. SOME CITIES HAVE IT. THAT'S NOT TRADITIONALLY, BUT SOME CITIES, YOU KNOW, COMMISSION ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO ACCESS THE TO PULL ITEMS AND THE COMMISSION AGREE.
AND SO IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PULL ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THEY SO WISH TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS. CORRECT. THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION DISCRETION. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AT A FUTURE TIME.
THAT IS NOT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AT THIS MINUTE.
THEREFORE, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
NO. VICE MAYOR DANIEL. YES. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YES. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
NO. MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE NOW GOING. EVERYBODY WHO'S LEAVING, GET HOME SAFELY, PLEASE.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO OUR QUASI JUDICIAL RIGHT.
[9.a TBO92 - Board Order approving/denying Variance applications to allow for relief from the following sections of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinance at 5600 North University Drive, Tamarac, Florida 33319: Section 10-4.10(E)(2)(a); Table 10-4.12: Fagade Sign Standards, and Section 10-4.10(E)(2)(b)(vii). ]
I DIDN'T MISS ANY PUBLIC HEARINGS. CITY ATTORNEY, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO THE RULES OF THE ROAD FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL START READING TITLES AND GO THAT WAY, PLEASE.YES. ALL PERSON TESTIFYING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION MUST BE SWORN IN.
WITH REGARD TO THE QUASI JUDICIAL ITEMS BEING CONSIDERED ON THIS AGENDA.
ALL EVIDENCE RELIED UPON BY A REASONABLE PERSON SHALL BE ADMISSIBLE, WHETHER SUCH EVIDENCE WOULD BE ADMISSIBLE IN THE COURT OF LAW. I HAVE AN HAVE AN INVENTORY OR UNDULY REPETITIOUS EVIDENCE SHOULD BE EXCLUDED.
STATEMENT OF ATTORNEY SHALL BE CONSIDERED ONLY AS ARGUMENT, NOT BE CONSIDERED AS TESTIMONY.
ATTORNEYS FOR PARTIES ARE NOT SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION.
CITY COMMISSIONERS SHOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REFUSE TO HEAR ANY TESTIMONY, WHICH IS IRRELEVANT.
THE PETITIONER OR PETITIONER WILL PRESENT FIRST.
SECOND STAFF WILL GIVE A WILL GIVING A PRESENTATION IF NEEDED.
THIRD, AFFECTED PARTIES IF ANY, HAS REGISTERED AS AFFECTED PARTIES.
FOURTH PERSON WHO HAS SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION CAN PROVIDE TESTIMONY STATEMENTS.
PARTIES WILL BE THEN GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS GIVEN.
CLOSING STATEMENTS. FINALLY, MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION AROUND THE MATTERS ON THE QUASI JUDICIARY AGENDA. CITY ATTORNEY, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL WE READ THE TITLES FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN WE'LL DO SO. AND THEN THEY'LL BE THEY'LL BE SWORN IN, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE DISCLOSURES.
SO WE'LL GO TO NINE A TB 092. CITY ATTORNEY, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD? NINE A IS BOARD ORDER APPROVING DENYING VARIANCE APPLICATION TO ALLOW RELIEF FROM THE FOLLOWING SECTION OF CITY TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCE 5600 NORTH UNIVERSITY DRIVE, TAMARAC, FLORIDA. SECTION TEN DASH 4.1 TABLE FACADE SIGNS, STANDARDS AND SECTION TEN DASH 4.1 E TO BE NINE B IS BOARD ORDER APPROVING DENYING SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO ALLOW FOR NOW WE'RE GOING TO WE'LL TAKE HIM.
YEAH. THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ALL OF THE WITNESSES FOR ITEM NINE A, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.
AND NOW, AT THIS TIME, I WILL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY DISCLOSURES FROM THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER. BOLTON NONE. VICE MAYOR. NONE FOR MYSELF.
NONE? NONE. THERE HAVE BEEN NO. NO COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS ITEM.
AND I NOW NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOVE IT.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.
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HOPE CALHOUN LAND USE COUNSEL FOR THE APPLICANT BUSINESS ADDRESS OF 14 SOUTHEAST FOURTH STREET AND THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A VARIANCE FOR RAISING CANES. I'M SURE YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY.IT'S LISTED HERE. IT'S I'M SORRY SHOWN HERE ON THE MAP.
AT THE CORNER OF COMMERCIAL AND UNIVERSITY. WITH THE APPROPRIATE LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATION.
AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR A QUICK SERVE RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THRU.
AS JUST STATED, IT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR A DRIVE THRU SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
I'M TRYING TO MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE I KNOW THE HOUR IS LATE, SO THE APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ARE TWO VARIANTS REQUESTS AS YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION IN YOUR BACKUP AS PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THAT BOTH VARIANCES ARE RELATED TO SIGNAGE, THE SIZE OF THE LETTERS FOR THE SIGNAGE, AS WELL AS THE LINES FOR THE COPY OF THE SIGNAGE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS EXHIBIT THE PROPOSED SIGN LOCATIONS ON THE THREE SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
AGAIN, I'M KIND OF GOING QUICKLY, AND I KNOW YOU ALREADY HAVE THIS IN YOUR BACKUP AND YOU'VE SEEN IT. ON THE FRONT AND SOUTH ELEVATION, WE ARE REQUESTING 41.5IN, WHERE THE CODE TYPICALLY ALLOWS 28IN.
AND WE ARE ALSO REQUESTING THREE THREE LINE COPIES AS OPPOSED TO TWO.
SO, SO WE CAN HAVE OUR TRADEMARK SIGNAGE. RAISING CANE'S CHICKEN FINGERS.
NORMALLY AGAIN YOU WOULD HAVE TWO LINES OF COPY.
WE ARE REQUESTING THREE. SO HERE THAT IS ON THE SOUTH, WHICH IS THE FRONT ELEVATION YOU JUST SAW ON THE PRIOR PAGE. SAME. REQUEST FOR THE WEST ELEVATION. WE'RE REQUESTING 31.25IN WHERE THE PERMITTED SIZE IS 30IN. AND AGAIN, WE'RE REQUESTING THREE LINES OF COPY AS OPPOSED TO TWO ON THE WESTERN ELEVATION.
AND THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE BUILDING ITSELF.
AND THEN LAST ON THE NORTH ELEVATION, WE ARE REQUESTING 41.5IN WHERE THE PERMITTED SIZE OR HEIGHT OF THE SIGNAGE IS 26IN. AND AGAIN, THE THREE LINES OF COPY, AS OPPOSED TO TWO FOR THE RAISING CANE'S CHICKEN FINGERS.
AND HERE IS THAT ELEVATION. THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE BUILDING.
AND AGAIN, AS STATED IN THE BACK OF THE MAIN REASON FOR THE REQUEST IS BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING AND THE SIGNAGE GIVEN THE INTERSECTION AND HOW BUSY IT IS RAISING CANE'S FEELS THAT THE REQUESTED SIGNAGE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE FOR THE LOCATION AND WOULD HELP WITH WAYFINDING AND OBVIOUSLY THE.
THE PROPOSED FLOW OF TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, YOUR CITY'S CODE HAS A NUMBER OF VARIANCE CRITERIA, AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE SATISFIED ALL OF THOSE CRITERIA AND IS FOR THAT REASON WE'RE MAKING THIS REQUEST.
AGAIN, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE WRITTEN REPORT WHICH INDICATES HOW WE HAVE SATISFIED THE CRITERIA.
I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ALL OF IT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT THEY ARE LISTED AGAIN IN OUR BACKUP MATERIALS.
AT THIS POINT, I'LL STOP TALKING, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE GO TO QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE FOR YOU.
ARE WE HAVING A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM OR YOU'RE GOING TO JUST ENTER IT INTO THE RECORD? OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND NOW FOR DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
MAXINE CALLOWAY. COMMISSIONER.
MAXINE CALLOWAY. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. FOR THE RECORD, SINCE MRS CALHOUN IS TIRED, I'LL ASK YOU THE QUESTION. SINCE YOU HAVE ALL THE VIM, VIGOR AND VITALITY FOR THESE MEETINGS.
MISS CALLOWAY, OTHER RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA HAS SIMILAR VARIANCES.
I WOULDN'T SAY ALL THE RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA, BUT WITH THE RAISING CANE'S, AS INDICATED BY MISS CALHOUN, THE CODE ALLOWS TWO LINES OF COPY. IN THIS CASE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THREE.
AND IT ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE A COPY ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THERE IS A ROADWAY.
SO THAT'S NOT A VARIANCE, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE THREE ACROSS THE STREET.
MIDWAY PLAZA I REMEMBER YEARS AGO THAT PLAZA RECEIVED A VARIANCE FOR THE SIZE OF THE SIGN, SO I WOULDN'T SAY ALL, BUT THIS IS NOT UNIQUE.
OKAY. CAN YOU POINT TO ANY CLOSE BY RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE SIMILAR VARIANTS?
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I WANT TO SAY THE KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN. THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE IS THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF UNIVERSITY. EAST SIDE OF.YES. OKAY. AND CAN YOU JUST GO THROUGH THE LIST? THAT MISS CALHOUN WAS TOO TIRED TO GO THROUGH, JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND AND PUT IT ON THE RECORD.
SURE. IF MISS CALHOUN CAN JUST GO BACK. BUT IT'S TWO VARIANCES THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED.
ONE VARIANCE IS ON EACH ELEVATION. FOR THE HEIGHT, THE CODE REQUIRES A PARTICULAR HEIGHT.
AND IN THIS CASE, THE RAISING CAIN IS ASKING FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN TO BE HIGHER.
THE CODE ONLY ALSO ALLOWS FOR TWO LINES OF COPY.
THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR THREE LINES OF COPY AS SEEN, SO THE APPLICANT CAN HAVE RAISING CANE'S CHICKEN FINGERS, WHICH IS THEIR TRADEMARK SIGN. I BELIEVE THE LIST WAS ON THE LAST SLIDE.
YOU'D LIKE ME TO REVIEW ALL OF THE VARIANCE CRITERIA.
I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. COMMISSIONER. IF YOU'D LIKE, I WOULD LIKE MISS CALLOWAY TO DO IT.
OKAY, I RESPECT HER BLACK EXCELLENCE. COMMISSIONER.
THE CODE DOES PROVIDE FOR 12345678 VARIANCE CRITERIA, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS TO SATISFY AS A PART OF THEIR APPLICATION SUBMITTAL. AS INDICATED ON THE RECORD, THE APPLICANT HAS SATISFIED ALL EIGHT CRITERIA AND WHICH IS WHY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THIS VARIANCE BE APPROVED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME, COMMISSIONER.
YOU LOOK REFRESHED EVEN THOUGH IT IS A 1049 AND YOU DID WELL, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE TIRED AS WELL.
TIME I WAS BORN. 1049 AS WELL. SO I'M GONNA COUNT THE HOURS NOW.
I'M RAISING THESE. YES. OH, ABSOLUTELY. COME ON DOWN.
YOU WERE ALREADY SWORN IN. PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME.
REBECCA MUNOZ, 2175 DONOHUE DRIVE. I REPRESENT AS THE OWNER'S REP FOR RAISING CANE'S.
I COME CLOSER TO THE MIC. SORRY. I'M TYPICALLY LOUD, SO THAT'S WHY I WASN'T.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T SHARED.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ARE GOING FOR THE SIZE DIFFERENCE FOR OUR SITE.
AND IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN.
WE HAVE A BUILDING SETBACK ON THE MAIN ROAD THAT KIND OF PUSHES OUR BUILDING BACK SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO THAT'S WHY TO BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE FRONT ELEVATION ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.
IT MAKES IT MORE VISIBLE TO PASSING CARS THAT WAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE FOUND THIS OUT AFTER WE GOT INTO DEVELOPMENT.
YOU'LL SEE OUR OUR SITE HAS SHIFTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE RIGHT.
THERE'S ABOUT A I THINK IT'S A 40 FOOT DEDICATION FOR FDOT EASEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT HAS TO BE LANDSCAPED AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF THAT THEY CAN COME IN AT ANY POINT AND TAKE THAT PROPERTY OVER.
BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S FORCED US TO BE SET BACK, LIKE I SAID, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE ROAD.
AND OUR SIGNAGE AS FAR AS MONUMENT SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS ALSO LIMITED.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO SEEK A SLIGHTLY LARGER SIGN ON THAT ON THAT ROAD AS WELL.
ON NORTH UNIVERSITY, SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET IN AND KIND OF SEE OUR RESTAURANT FROM, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD. THE TRADEMARK PIECE IS JUST WE IT'S LITERALLY A TRADEMARK LOGO.
THAT'S WHY WE WOULD LIKE THE THREE LINES OF COPY SO THAT WE CAN KEEP WITH OUR BRANDED LOGO.
THAT'S JUST AND I THINK IT DOES ALSO GO WITH WHAT THE CITY IS LOOKING INTO AS PART OF YOUR NEW CODES AND, YOU KNOW, ELEVATING THE COMMUNITY. YOU GUYS SPOKE A LOT EARLIER ABOUT THE ELEVATIONS AND WANTING THINGS TO LOOK NICELY.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR BRANDING AND OUR SIGNAGE, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY NICE COMMUNITY AD WITH RAISING CANE'S, WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING THE BUILDING ITSELF AND JOBS.
SO FROM THE APPLICANT SIDE, I DO HOPE YOU CONSIDER APPROVING THE VARIANCE.
I THINK IT WILL LOOK A LOT, A LOT MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS A BALANCE.
INSTEAD OF HAVING KIND OF TINY SIGNS ON THIS NICE BIG BUILDING WE'RE PUTTING IN.
AS FAR AS THE SETBACKS, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IN RELATION TO ANOTHER BRAND THAT MIGHT BE CLOSER TO THE ROAD OR NOT HAVE THOSE CRITERIAS AGAINST THEM. SO OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.
AND NOW I'M CONVINCED. AND NOW I'LL SUPPORT IT.
IT WASN'T WELL PRESENTED. BUT NOW YOU HAVE PRESENTED IT.
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YOU KNOW, ARTICULATELY. AND I APPRECIATE THAT.AND I'LL SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. AND THANK YOU FOR ATTEMPTING TO MAKE IT QUICK BECAUSE OF THE HOUR.
AND WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING IN THE BACK OF OUR BOOK.
I WILL SAY THIS ON THE RECORD, MISS CALLOWAY, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHY THIS IS NOT ADMINISTRATIVE WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DE MINIMIS ITEMS SUCH AS A COUPLE OF INCHES, IT SEEMS LIKE A BIG WASTE OF TIME AND DELAY FOR OUR BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE BRANDING IT NEEDS.
IT'S A SIDE NOTE, BUT, MISS GALLOWAY, DID WE HAVE ANY LUCK WITH FDOT GETTING THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT BUS STOP MOVED? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.
THAT'S JUST A COMMENT. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHY DON'T WE PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ON FIXING THIS CODE? BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE LAND USE CODE AND REZONING DEVELOPMENT THING TO MAKE THINGS LIKE THIS NOT HAVE TO COME HERE.
AND SOMEHOW IT GOT BACK TO HERE. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD RETHINK THAT.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT THAT ON A FUTURE WORKSHOP? SO I DRIVE PAST THAT CORNER EVERY DAY. I DRIVE IN THE BACK, I DRIVE THE FRONT, ALL SIDES OF IT. YOU'RE GOING UP NICELY. VERY MUCH APPRECIATE.
HOWEVER, ON THAT NOTE, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S COMING, SO I DON'T KNOW.
FOR RIGHT NOW, SIGNAGE REALLY IS AN ISSUE. DOESN'T MEAN I'M NOT APPROVING THIS, BUT JUST TO SAY PEOPLE ARE EXCITED, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE OPENING ALREADY. SO ON THAT NOTE, I JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR GRAND OPENING.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENTS, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE OF YOU, MAYOR GOMEZ. YES, COMMISSIONER.
PATTERSON. YES, COMMISSIONER. WRIGHT. YES. VICE MAYOR DANIEL.
YES. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
YOU TOO. THANK YOU. GET HOME SAFE. VERY NICE, VERY NICE.
PHOTO BY OR DRAWING BY YOUR DAUGHTER. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW MOVING TO NINE B TBE 093.
[9.b TBO93 - Board Order approving/denying a Special Exception to allow for a thrift, consignment, and used merchandise retail establishment, within an existing plaza, commonly known as Midway Plaza, 5701-5881 N. University Drive, Tamarac, Florida 33321. ]
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.ITEM NINE B BOARD ORDER APPROVING, DENYING SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO ALLOW FOR A THRIFT CONSIGNMENT AND USE MERCHANDISE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT WHEN EXISTING PLAZA. COMMONLY KNOWN AS MIDWAY PLAZA, LOCATED AT 5701 5581 NORTH UNIVERSITY DRIVE, TAMARAC, FLORIDA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL ALL WITNESSES PLEASE BE SWORN IN BY OUR ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, SO PLEASE STAND. THANK YOU. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. THANK YOU. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN SWORN IN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WILL NOW ASK FOR DISCLOSURES.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. NO. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
I MET THE FOUR CHAPS AT CITY HALL. ALL RIGHT.
I MET WITH DAVID LANDSBERG. FERNANDO. SORRY IF I'M PRONOUNCING NAMES WRONG.
MAURICIO. HERNANDEZ. AND MY CONTACT JUST WENT.
BUT NICOLAS SOTO THE ATTORNEY. AND I ALSO HAVE ALSO SPOKEN WITH THE PLAZA OWNER.
THE NEW PLAZA OWNER, MIKE MILLIKEN. AND I'M DESTROYING NAMES, I DO APOLOGIZE.
VICE MAYOR. NO. BOLTON. NONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
SO WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. JUST BEFORE WE GET TO YOUR PRESENTATION, I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND.
SO MOVED. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. AND NOW NICHOLAS NOTO.
MY APOLOGIES. AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO DELIVER A PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSION. MY NAME IS NICK NOTO WITH THE LAW FIRM OF BILLS AND SUNDBERG. OUR OFFICE IS LOCATED AT 1450 BRICKELL AVENUE, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF GOODWILL INDUSTRIES OF SOUTH FLORIDA. I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY DAVID LANDSBERG, WHO'S GOODWILL CEO. MAURICIO HERNANDEZ, WHO'S THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, AS WELL AS JACK VENTIMIGLIA, WHO IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO ACTUALLY FLEW INTO TOWN FROM OUT OF STATE FOR THIS HEARING TONIGHT. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
OUR REQUEST TONIGHT, I THINK, IS IS A SIMPLE ONE.
THERE'S CURRENTLY A APPROXIMATELY 20,000 SQUARE FOOT VACANT TENANT SPACE IN MIDWAY PLAZA.
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AND GOODWILL IS HOPING TO OPEN ITS ITS NEWEST AND MODEL GOODWILL SUPERSTORE AT THAT LOCATION.I WANT TO START MY PRESENTATION WITH AN EXPLANATION OF GOODWILL, BECAUSE I THINK THAT JUST THEIR MISSION AND WHAT THEY DO FOR US AS PART OF THEIR OPERATIONS IS, IS REMARKABLE AND REALLY IS THE THE STORY HERE.
AND WHAT GOODWILL IS MISSION IS, IS TO EMPOWER FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES AND BARRIERS TO ENTRY TO EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE THOSE FOLKS TRAINING AND JOB PLACEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND ALSO TO HIRE THOSE FOLKS THEMSELVES IN THE BUSINESSES THAT THEY OPERATE.
SO THEY ACCOMPLISH THEIR MISSION IN TWO WAYS THEIR MISSION WORK AND THEIR BUSINESS WORK.
THE MISSION WORK PROVIDES JOB TRAINING, JOB PLACEMENT SERVICES, VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION TO FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES OR BARRIERS TO ENTRY. A LOT OF THESE FOLKS HAVE FEDERAL LEVEL DISABILITIES.
AND TRULY CAN'T JUST WALK INTO AN INTERVIEW AT A PRIVATE COMPANY AND AND GET GET A JOB.
THE OTHER WAY THAT THEY SERVE THIS MISSION IS THROUGH THEIR BUSINESSES.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP LEFT THERE THEIR STORES IS ONE ONE OF THEIR BUSINESSES.
AND THESE BUSINESSES IN PART FUND THE MISSION.
AND TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT A NEW GOODWILL SUPERSTORE.
THEY'RE ALSO THE 18TH LARGEST EMPLOYER IN SOUTH FLORIDA, WHICH STRUCK ME AS AS PRETTY REMARKABLE.
AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE OTHER FUN FACTS ACROSS THE, ACROSS YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S AN AWARD WINNING, AWARD WINNING DOCUMENTARY ABOUT THEM.
IT'S PRETTY SPECIAL STUFF. JUST LIKE THE REST OF ALL OF THEIR MISSION WORK.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK IT OUT. SO LET ME BRING YOU JUST NORTH INTO THE WEST OF THE APPLICATION.
WE'RE SEEKING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO OPERATE.
AND LET ME JUST NOTE THAT WE'RE SEEKING THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION BECAUSE GOODWILL FALLS INTO.
A SECONDARY CLASSIFICATION OF RETAILER. WHEREAS I, I THINK OUR OUR STORES AND THE SHOPPING EXPERIENCE IS MORE AKIN TO A ROSS OR A TJ MAXX. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO ONE RECENTLY BECAUSE WE SELL DONATED GOODS, WE'RE CATEGORIZED AS A THRIFT STORE.
WHICH REQUIRES US TO GET THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. WHEREAS IF WE IF WE WERE THE ROSS OR THE TJMAXX, WE WOULD JUST GO STRAIGHT TO PERMIT. YOU HAVE SEVERAL CRITERIA FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN DETAIL IN OUR LETTER OF INTENT, WHICH IS PART OF YOUR BACKUP, EXPLAINED HOW WE MEET THOSE CRITERIA. YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF HAS ALSO REVIEWED THAT CRITERIA, FOUND THAT WE MEET THE CRITERIA AND IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TONIGHT.
AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE NOT NEW TO SOUTH FLORIDA OR BROWARD COUNTY.
GOODWILL IS CURRENTLY OPERATING 16 GOODWILL STORES IN BROWARD COUNTY, 18 IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY.
AND WE DO THINK THAT OUR, OUR TENANT SPACE BUILD OUT WILL LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THIS.
BECAUSE WE, WE WANT TO HAVE A CONSISTENT SHOPPING EXPERIENCE AT ALL OF OUR GOODWILL SUPERSTORES.
AND WE INTEND TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS, TO THIS TENANT SPACE COLLECTIVELY BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND GOODWILL UPWARDS OF $1 MILLION OF DOLLARS OF IMPROVEMENTS TO BUILD OUT THIS TENANT SPACE. SO WHEN WE DO OPEN, IT'S BRAND NEW, EVEN UP TO THE HVAC EQUIPMENT. WE'RE REPLACING THAT AS WELL.
WE'RE MAKING A FEW MODIFICATIONS TO THE INTERIOR, THE FLOOR PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS SHOWING NOW INCLUDING RAISING THIS, THIS DEMISING WALL SO WE CAN CREATE THAT BACK PRE-SALES AREA, WHICH IS WHERE THEY SORT STUFF FOR THE SALES FLOOR.
COUPLE RENDERINGS FOR YOU. THESE ARE JUST DIGITAL RENDERINGS, BUT THIS IS IN, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR, LIKE I SHOWED YOU THE CORAL SPRINGS IN THE STORE AND THE SUNRISE STORE. WHAT WE EXPECT THE STORE TO LOOK LIKE. LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE GOODWILL DOES EXPECT THIS TO BE THEIR MODEL STORE AS THEIR NEWEST GOODWILL STORE.
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THAT'S OPENING WE EXPECT IT TO CREATE 25 TO 35 JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY.THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE BACK DONATION CENTER.
AND WITH THAT. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU RECOMMEND OR THAT YOU APPROVE OUR SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
WE THERE ARE ONGOING CODE ENFORCEMENT MATTERS WITH MIDWAY PLAZA.
OF COURSE, GOODWILL HAS NO CONTROL OVER THE PROPERTY OWNER. WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CONDITION THAT ALL CODE ENFORCEMENT MATTERS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE ENTIRE PLAZA BE RESOLVED BEFORE WE GET OUR ABILITY TO GET A CEO OR A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.
BE LIFTED. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DEFER TO THE WISDOM OF THIS COMMISSION.
THE STAFF PRESENTATION ON THE ITEM IS GOING TO BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD BY MISS CALLAWAY, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, WHO IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
BUT AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED AND THIS IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.
ALL RIGHTY THEN. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. SURE.
I KNOW WE ALREADY, WHEN WE SPOKE AT OUR MEETING, HOURS WERE 9 A.M.
TO 8 P.M., MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY. SUNDAY WOULD CLOSE EARLY 6 TO 730.
IS YOUR IS GOODWILL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPT? SO DOES THE PLAZA OWNER NOW NOT RECEIVE PROPERTY TAX.
THE TAX BILL IS A PASS THROUGH TO US FROM THE LANDLORD.
WE ARE TAX EXEMPT ONLY IF WE OWN THE PROPERTY.
THANK YOU. JUST WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD. WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT THE DROP OFF, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF PEOPLE WERE COMING THERE PLEASE TELL EVERYBODY WHAT YOU SHARE WITH ME ABOUT HOW YOU HANDLE DROP OFFS AT NIGHT IF THINGS ARE GOING TO BE AFTER HOURS? SURE. SO WE HAVE A GOODWILL IS VERY GOOD ABOUT.
THEY HAVE A VERY DETAILED ANTI-DUMPING OPERATION.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A MEMBER OF STAFF. I THINK IT'S STAFF OR IT'S A CONTRACTOR THAT DRIVES AROUND IN A PARTICULAR LOCALITY AND MONITORS THE GOODWILL STORE LOCATIONS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ILLEGAL DUMPING.
WE TYPICALLY FORM RELATIONSHIPS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS HAPPENING, WE CAN INFORM THEM WE HAVE THE CAMERAS, WE HAVE TYPICALLY PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS OF THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STORES REMAIN CLEAN.
I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU OR FOR YOU REGARDING THE BACK AREA.
IS IT GOING TO BE WELL LIT BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE CAMERAS YOU WANT OUT THERE, BUT IF IT'S DARK OUTSIDE AND YOU CAN'T SEE, WILL IT BE LIT WELL ENOUGH? YES. YES. YES. YES.
SO WITH THE NEW TECHNOLOGY, WE DO NEED TO HAVE PROPER LIGHTING IN ORDER FOR IT TO WORK FOR US.
YEAH. BY THE WAY, THE CAMERAS HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE.
SO IN CASE SOMEBODY IS DUMPING SOMETHING ILLEGALLY.
SOMETHING LIKE A RING CAMERA SAYING, I SEE YOU OUTSIDE MY DOOR. LEAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YES.
ALL RIGHT. SO YOU ALSO SAID THAT YOU HAVE A PERSON, AN EMPLOYEE WHO WILL DO MONITORING OUTSIDE THE BACK, AND YOU HAVE 16 STORES, SO YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE EMPLOYEE, I PRESUME, WHO'S GOING TO BE HANDLING HOW MANY STORES IN THE REGION?
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WE HAVE 16. THIS WOULD BE OUR 17TH IN BROWARD COUNTY.AND SO? SO IT IS A TEAM OF PEOPLE. IT INCLUDES OUR LOSS PREVENTION PEOPLE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE DEDICATED STAFF THAT HANDLES ATTENDED DONATION CENTERS, INCLUDING THOSE BEHIND THE STORES.
OKAY. ALSO, I DID DRIVE THERE TODAY. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TO THAT PLAZA PLENTY OF TIMES.
TURN RADIUS. WHAT MARKINGS WILL YOU MAKE SURE YOU HAVE? AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS FOR YOU, JACK, OR BECAUSE IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO COME THERE AND THEY THINK, OH, I CAN GO STRAIGHT DOWN THE BACK, THEY'RE GOING STRAIGHT DOWN THE BACK, AND THEN THEY'RE TURNING AT PUBLIX AND THEY'RE TURNING AROUND. THEY'RE GETTING TRAPPED BACK THERE. WHAT PROVISIONS ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE IT EASY TO DO THE DROP OFF, WHICH IS CLOSE TO YOUR PROPERTY, WHERE SOMEONE'S COMING OUT TO TAKE IT AND THEN TURN AROUND AND MOVE.
WE HAVE A LOADING ZONE THAT'S DIRECTLY OUTSIDE OF THAT DOOR THAT WILL UTILIZE, AND THERE'S ALSO LOTS OF PARKING ON THE NORTH END OF THAT, THAT THAT PART OF THE PLAZA THAT OUR DONATORS COULD USE TO TO PARK IT OUT, BRING THE STUFF TO THE DONATIONS PULL INTO A PARKING STALL AND TURN AROUND. AND I'M ALSO SURE IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE YOUR STAFF AND YOUR BUILDING STAFF WILL REVIEW AS PART OF OUR PERMIT APPLICATION.
THERE'S RESTAURANTS THERE, THERE'S OTHER SHOPS THERE, AND IT'S A LONG WAY DOWN BEFORE THEY CAN GET.
YES. YEAH, WE WILL MAKE WE WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT.
IN FACT, IT BEHOOVES US TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE DONORS TO HAVE PROPER GUIDANCE AS TO WHERE TO GO.
THANK YOU. I AM ALSO GOING TO ASK, DID YOU GET PROPER APPROVAL TO PUT THAT TRAILER BACK THERE? I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT. I HONESTLY MEANT THE MEANT TO ADDRESS THAT IN MY IN MY PRESENTATION.
WE WERE JUST MADE AWARE OF THAT THIS AFTERNOON, AND IT WILL BE REMOVED BY TOMORROW.
WILL WE FIGURE OUT HOW THAT GOT THERE AND WHAT'S REQUIRED IF IT EVER WERE TO RETURN? APPRECIATE. THANK YOU. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IF THIS SHOULD GO THROUGH, I AM ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO YOU BEING HIT WITH THE SLEDGEHAMMER OF THAT CERTIFICATE OF USE.
BECAUSE OF SEAL COATING THAT THE LANDLORD HAS PROVIDED TO OUR CITY STAFF, A PLAN OF WHEN IT WILL BE HANDLING THE GROUND MAINTENANCE FOR THE PARKING LOT.
IF THE LANDLORD DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF IT IN THE TIME FRAME IN WHICH THAT LANDLORD HAS.
AGREED TO. IF IT'S AN AGREEMENT TO THE CITY, THAT'S THE LANDLORD'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO STOP A BUSINESS FROM GOING IN.
I DO AGREE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR PLAZAS LOOK BETTER, BUT IF WE CAN'T GET THE PLAZA FULL OF PEOPLE COMING TO SHOP, IF THIS IS WHAT GOES IN. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SO I WILL NOT RECOMMEND THAT EXCEPTION BEING APPROVED IN MY IF THIS SHOULD GO THROUGH.
THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT JUST POPPED IN MY HEAD AND IT POPPED RIGHT OUT.
I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'D BE HIRING 25 TO 35 RESIDENTS IN THE CITY.
AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU TRY TO HELP SPECIAL NEEDS OR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO GET FULL TIME JOBS? WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? SURE.
GOODWILL'S MISSION IS, AT ITS CORE, IS TO HELP FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES OR OTHER BARRIERS TO EMPLOYMENT TO TO BE TRAINED AND TO GET GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH OUR MISSION SERVICES, WHICH IS JOB TRAINING, VOCATIONAL TRAINING, OR THROUGH EMPLOYING THEM DIRECTLY AND PROVIDING THEM WITH A JOB OPPORTUNITY.
AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHO THIS QUESTION GOES TO, BUT THERE IS A SIMILAR.
YOU COMPARED YOURSELF TO A ROSS? YES. THERE'S A ROSS IN THE PLAZA.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT BUSINESS? I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR BUSINESS, BUT I'LL LET MAURICIO EXPLAIN.
SO IT IS ACTUALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE SHARE CUSTOMERS WITH MULTIPLE RETAILERS, PRIMARILY OFF PRICE APPAREL RETAILERS LIKE ROSS.
IN FACT, THAT MAKES IT A MUCH MORE VIABLE LOCATION FOR US.
OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO. YEAH, I'LL SPEAK ON THE JACKMAN WITH SHOP ONE, OWNERS OF MIDWAY PLAZA.
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I'LL SPEAK ON THE SHARED EXPERIENCE WE HAVE FOUND THROUGHOUT OUR SHOPPING CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THAT THAT SHARED EXPERIENCE AMONGST CUSTOMERS HELPS DRIVE TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE SHOPPING CENTER ITSELF.SO I'LL SPEAK TO THAT. AND THEN IN REGARDS TO ASKING ABOUT THE PROVERBIAL NAIL SHOP, ONE IS CURRENTLY IN PERMITTING WITH THE ENGINEERING AND BUILDING DEPARTMENTS ON GETTING THE SEAL COATING COMPLETED.
WE'RE JUST I CHECKED WITH THE BUILDING TODAY AND FIRE JUST CAME BACK WITH COMMENTS.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS YET AND ENGINEERING PUT OUT COMMENTS THIS WEEK ON THE MILL AND FILL PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT THAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT.
OUR MAIN ISSUE IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE PERMITS IN A TIMELY MANNER WHERE WE CAN COMPLETE THIS BY MARCH 10TH, BUT NONETHELESS, WE'LL BE COMPLETING IT BEFORE GOODWILL OPENS THEIR STORES AND MARCH 10TH.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT ITEM, THAT DATE, THAT DATE IS THE DATE THAT THE WAS GIVEN TO US AS AN EXTENSION BY BY THE MAGISTRATE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO COMPLETE THE COMPLETE THE CITATION OF THE SEAL COATING.
OKAY. THAT'S A SEPARATE ITEM THAT MAYBE SHOULD BE DISCUSSED WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT.
IF YOU'VE GOT THINGS IN PERMITTING AND YOU'RE WAITING TO GO THROUGH YOUR RESULTS ON PERMITTING AND ANSWERING ITEMS ON PERMITTING THOSE KIND OF DEADLINES ARE A LITTLE TOUGH WHEN YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHEN THINGS COME BACK OR HOW YOU RESPOND.
SO SEPARATE ITEM, BUT YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSES, EVERYBODY. AND I WILL NOW GO TO COMMISSIONER.
RIGHT. THEN IT WILL BE VICE MAYOR DANIEL. AND THEN IT'LL BE MARLON BOLTON.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. YOU SAID $1 MILLION IN $1 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF CONTRACTORS. ARE YOU GOING TO USE LOCAL CONTRACTORS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO UTILIZE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS? THANK YOU. DAVID LANDSBERG, CEO OF GOODWILL SOUTH FLORIDA.
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S COMPLETELY IN OUR INTEREST TO USE LOCAL CONTRACTORS.
EXPEDITING CODE ITEMS AND KNOWING THE COUNTY AND KNOWING THE MUNICIPALITY THAT WE'RE OPENING IN.
SO, YES, ABSOLUTELY. TOP OF THE LIST TO LOOK FOR BROWARD CONTRACTORS.
THAT'S KIND OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR COMPETITORS PEOPLE THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE THE NOTION OF THRIFT.
THEY THINK IT'S LIKE, HAND ME DOWN OR GIVE AWAY STUFF.
BUT OBVIOUSLY I SEE YOUR LOCATIONS. THIS IS SOME PRETTY POSH CITIES, AND I WAS I WAS READING AN ARTICLE RECENTLY IN USA TODAY WHERE IT SAYS THRIFTING IS NOW TOUTED AS A MEANS OF SUSTAINABLE FASHION AND OFFERING EXCLUSIVE, ONE OF A KIND FINDS THAT CANNOT BE ACHIEVED WITH FAST FASHION.
IT HAS RAISED THE CULTURAL BAR TO MAKE THRIFTING A DEFAULT NOT ONLY FOR BUDGET BUDGETING, BUT ALSO FOR BEING A VEHICLE FOR PERSONAL EXPRESSION AND ETHICAL CONSUMERISM. SO OBVIOUSLY THRIFTING IS, IS IS IN IN RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GEN Z AND MILLENNIALS.
THRIFTING IS A IS A VERY POPULAR WAY OF SHOPPING RIGHT NOW.
WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN IN TERMS OF YOUR INDUSTRY, IN TERMS OF REVENUE GROWTH IN THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
THE, THE ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES WE HAVE IS WE APPEAL TO A PRETTY WIDE DEMOGRAPHIC.
SO I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WE VERY MUCH STUDIED UP ON THE AREA AND FOUND THAT TAMARAC THIS OPPORTUNITY, THE OPPORTUNITY DOESN'T COME ALONG EVERY DAY.
THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS A MEETS OUR BEYOND MEETS OUR CRITERIA.
AND THEN I'D SAY LAYERING ON TOP OF THAT ARE THE YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHICS WHO HAVE SHOWN THAT THRIFTING IS TWO THINGS I THINK TO THEM, ONE, BEING ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES AS AN INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING ITEMS THAT ARE COOL AND AREN'T FAST FASHION.
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POUNDS OUT OF THE LANDFILL, OUT OF LANDFILLS, OF BOTH DADE AND BROWARD COUNTY.AND WHILE THAT MISSION MIGHT BE SECONDARY TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND BARRIERS TO WORK, IT'S CERTAINLY VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US. AND SO WE EXPECT THAT TO HELP.
CAN I GIVE YOU A METRIC ON HOW MUCH IT WILL SAVE? TAMARAC? I CAN'T, BUT OUR GOAL IS ZERO WASTE.
AND I'M ALWAYS HAVING ISSUES FINDING PARKING WITH EURO STORE COMING ONLINE.
IF IT PASSES, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THE PARKING SITUATION IN THAT PLAZA? SO OBVIOUSLY, IN LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY, WE'VE BEEN THERE AT MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE DAY AND MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK.
AND IN THAT END OF THE PLAZA, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S A VACANT SPACE, WE'VE SEEN PLENTY.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE GET CONCERNED ABOUT IN SITE EVALUATION.
BUT CONSIDERING THE PARKING IN THE FRONT KIND OF AROUND THE, THE, THE SIDE AND AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, EVEN BEHIND THE STORE, COMPLETELY SUFFICIENT.
OUR SHOPPER LOAD ALSO TENDS TO GET SPREAD OUT DURING THE DAY.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE ONE SINGLE PEAK. PEOPLE ARE COMING, YOU KNOW, REGULARLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SO WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT. ALL RIGHTY. THANKS.
SO THEREFORE, I AM SEEKING A MOTION FOR AN EXTENSION TO AT LEAST COMPLETE THIS ITEM.
UNLESS THERE'S AN EXTENSION. OTHERWISE MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING UNTIL ALL ITEMS HAVE BEEN HEARD.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A AND A SECOND TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO.
ALL ITEMS ARE HEARD. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. YES. COMMISSIONER RICE.
YES. VICE MAYOR DANIELS. YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
YES. MAYOR. GOMEZ. YES. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY EXCITED TO COME HERE.
SO WE NOW HAVE VICE MAYOR DANIEL. OKAY. GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE.
IT WAS A PLEASURE HEARING ABOUT YOUR MISSION AND WHAT YOU DO.
THERE'S ALWAYS A DUMPSTER, A WASTE MANAGEMENT DUMPSTER THERE OR AN OLD FURNITURE.
SO I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE COMPLAINED SEVERAL TIMES.
I THINK THEY CLEAN IT UP, BUT IT'S ALWAYS END UP BACK TRASHY IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE UP ALL THAT SPACE, I'M WONDERING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WELL, COMMISSIONER, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU HAVE A NEW PROPERTY OWNER IN THAT SPACE VERY RECENTLY.
I THINK A MIDDLE TO END OF LAST YEAR SHOP ONE TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THAT PLAZA.
I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY'VE FLOWN IN FOR THIS HEARING TONIGHT AND THEY'VE BEEN CORRESPONDING PRETTY AGGRESSIVELY WITH YOUR STAFF TO TRY TO HELP US GET TO THE FINISH LINE SO WE KNOW THAT WE CAN OPEN IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO GRANT OUR APPLICATION.
I THINK HAVING RESPONSIVE, PRESENT OWNERSHIP IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
SO I WOULD HATE FOR THEM TO BE JUDGED BY THEIR PREDECESSORS.
I KNOW IN THE BACK UP YOUR STAFF, YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THIS FROM A PARKING PERSPECTIVE, AND I KNOW THE EXPERIENCE ISN'T ISN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE FINDING, BUT THERE IS A FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, A SURPLUS OF AVAILABLE PARKING. ANY WAY THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE PLAZA OWNER TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE AND MAKE THAT EXPERIENCE BETTER, IT ONLY BENEFITS US. WE DON'T WANT OUR SHOPPERS TO HAVE A BAD EXPERIENCE IN THE PARKING LOT EITHER.
I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE BACK BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THE CUSTOMERS WILL BE IN THE BACK AND I DON'T REALLY SEE THE SPACE, BUT I'M NOT STAFF. BUT I WAS GLAD TO HEAR, THOUGH, THAT YOU AGREE TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED EARLIER. IT'S GOOD. IT'S ALREADY WORKING. SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU AGREED TO CLEAN UP THAT PLAZA, BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. I GO THERE AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK.
YEAH. SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT WILL BE CLEANED UP.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOUR LIGHT IS OFF. DO YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. I KNOW IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE IT, BUT I LOVE THE THRIFT.
AWESOME. SO AND SOME OF MY UNIQUE PIECES ARE ARE FROM THE THRIFT STORE.
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COMPETITORS GO. SO IF YOUR COMPETITOR IS NOT THERE, THEN SOMETHING IS WRONG AND YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THERE.SO IT'S A GOOD THING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY GO TO THAT PLAZA.
YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE THE DUMPSTER AND THE ACTUAL PLAZA.
NOT NECESSARILY YOUR BUSINESS. REMIND ME OF WHAT YOU WANTED TO LIFT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE CERTIFICATE OF USE WOULD APPLY TO US, SINCE IT'S NOT FORMAL YET, BUT UNTIL ALL THE CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE PLAZA ARE REMEDIED. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE. WHILE WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER FLEW IN FOR THIS HEARING, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. SO IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO APPROVE OUR APPLICATION, WE WOULD LOVE THE ABILITY TO DO THESE TENANT SPACE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN BE ABLE TO OPEN IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR, OUR OWN PROGRAM AND NOT BE TIED TO SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
OKAY. MISS CALLOWAY. I JUST LOVE YOU TONIGHT.
FOR THE RECORD, MAXINE CALLOWAY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
COMMISSIONER. WOULD THIS BE A EXPLAIN THIS THIS CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT IS SUGGESTING? SURE. WE ADDED THERE ARE THREE CONDITIONS OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THE THIRD CONDITION, AND THE ONE THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT READS ANY PREEXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS SHALL BE SATISFIED BEFORE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT AND OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED FOR THE PROPOSED USE.
SO ESSENTIALLY, UP UNTIL ALL CODE VIOLATIONS ARE SATISFIED ON THE PROPERTY, THEN THE APPLICANT OR THE GOODWILL WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE INTO THE SPACE.
AND THAT'S THE THIRD CONDITION. OKAY. YOU SAID THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE.
YES. OKAY. PROPERTY OWNER? YES. COMMISSIONER.
BOLTON. TELL ME HOW MUCH OF YOUR SPACE IN THE PLAZA IS RENTED? IS RENTED? I DON'T HAVE THAT OFFHAND, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE BELL SPACE, WHICH IS ABOUT 20,000.
SQUARE FEET, I WOULD SAY WE'D BE CLOSE TO 90%.
OKAY, MISS CALLOWAY, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH OF THEIR SPACE IS.
WHAT'S THE OCCUPANCY LOAD? HE WOULD BE AROUND ACCURATE.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IT'S FULLY OCCUPIED, BUT I THINK IT'S VERY HIGH, SO I WOULD CONCUR WITH 90%.
OKAY. SO HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. IF IF IT IS THAT WE LIFT THE CONDITION THIS CONDITION PRECEDENT. RIGHT. AND ALLOW YOU IN AND GIVE YOU A OCCUPATIONAL, A BUSINESS LICENSE WITHOUT THE BUSINESS OWNER FIXING THE PLAZA, AND YOU'RE AT 90% OCCUPANCY LEVEL.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH OF A INCENTIVE FOR YOU TO FIX THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE IN THE PLAZA, BECAUSE THEN YOU'D HAVE BEEN AT A 90% LOAD, AND THAT'S 90% FOR BUSINESS OWNERS, IS ACTUALLY GOOD.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE AT 90%, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CRUISING, YOU'RE OKAY.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO FIX ANYTHING. YOU'RE NOT MOTIVATED TO FIX ANYTHING.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS AT THIS TIME, WE'RE AT CURRENTLY AT 90% OCCUPANCY, BUT WITH LEASES AND RENTERS, WE COULD BE IN A FIVE YEAR LEASE. THAT LEASE WILL COME UP, SO WON'T REMAIN THAT WE WOULD BE AT 90% WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR NEXT THREE YEARS. SO WE LOOK AT THAT AND AS FIRST IN CLASS SHOPPING CENTER OWNERS.
WE WERE JUST CITED ON THESE ITEMS AS NEW OWNERS.
SO AND AS STATED, WE WE'RE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THIS CENTER.
THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. THAT'S NOT HOW WE OPERATE AS OWNERS.
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WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T BRING IN NEW TENANTS WITHOUT TAKING CARE OF OUR CENTERS, AND WE CAN'T ATTRACT GOOD TENANTS WITHOUT TAKING CARE OF OUR CENTERS.AND IF WE'RE PUT IN A PLACE WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO DO ITEMS, JUST HOW AD HOC, RIGHT? THAT ALWAYS AFFECTS OUR TENANTS AS WELL THROUGH THEIR COMMON AREA MAINTENANCE.
RIGHT. SO THERE'S ALL A CAPITAL PLAN THAT ALL COMES TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THAT.
WE WANT THE FACADE. WE WANT IT THE THE LANDSCAPING, ALL OF THAT TO TO LOOK GOOD.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO THEN CHANGE OUR VISION EVERY TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IS HANDSOME AND MAKE A GREAT PRESENTATION HERE, THEN YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE'RE GOING AGAINST OUR OWN VISION, RIGHT? SO IT'S IT'S, IT'S IT'S ONE OF THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS.
MISS CALLOWAY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU? CERTAINLY. COMMISSIONER. OKAY, SO LET'S SAY WE'VE LIVED THIS CONDITION AND WE LET THEM MOVE IN AND THEY HAVE A SEAL AND WE LOSE OUR LEVERAGE. THEY HAVE NO INCENTIVE FOR FIXING THE THE PLAZA.
COULD WE THEN PUT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONDITION THEN TO SAY AT LEAST TWO YEARS, THEN AFTER THEY MOVE IN, IF THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE WILL BE REVOKED IF THE PLAZA ISSUES ARE NOT FIXED.
NOW, THIS PARTICULAR TENANT, THIS PARTICULAR IS THAT LEGAL ATTORNEY.
AND THE PROCESS FOR REVOCATION OF BUSINESS LICENSE IS, IS OUTLINED IN OUR CODE.
OKAY. OKAY. WHAT ARE THE OUTSTANDING THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THAT PLAZA? IT IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE PARKING LOT. THERE'S STILL POTHOLES IN THE PARKING LOT.
STRIPING, REPAVING. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S LANDSCAPING, BUT IT'S PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE PARKING LOT AND THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, WHICH I KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPROVING. I CAN SEE THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING WITH THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE.
OKAY. APPLICANT GOT A FIVE YEAR PLAN. LET ME HAVE A QUESTION AGAIN FOR THE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER, MISS CALLAWAY, CALLS THE IMPROVEMENTS SIGNIFICANT.
PUT A DOLLAR FIGURE TO SIGNIFICANT. WELL, CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO JUST DO PARTIAL MILL AND FILL OF THE PARKING LOT SO THAT IT'S APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OF THE PARKING LOT.
THAT'S OVER $100,000 CONTRACT. DOING THE ENTIRE CONTRACT MILL AND FILL SEALCOATING STRIPING IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE VALUE OF $400,000.
SO THE LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT MISS CALLOWAY IS SAYING IS SIGNIFICANT AND WANTS TO BE FIXED.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR FOR A DOLLAR FIGURE FOR.
SO I HAVE CURRENTLY I HAVE THE $400,000 FIGURE THAT WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT, WHICH IS JUST WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY SITED ON, WHICH IS THE SEALCOATING AND STRIPING. BUT WE'RE EVEN GOING BEYOND THAT BY MILLING AND FILLING, BECAUSE SEALCOATING IS BASICALLY JUST I WOULD DESCRIBE IT AS ADDING LIPSTICK TO TO THE PARKING LOT AS OPPOSED TO GOING
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TO THE MAIN ISSUES UNDER THE SURFACE. BUT WHY WOULD THAT NEED NEED TO TAKE FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? WELL, THERE'S A CAPITAL PLAN WHEN WE GO OUT AND PURCHASE A CENTER IN WHICH WE TAKE CARE OF PORTIONS AT A TIME, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT VERY TYPICAL WHEN YOU HAVE A SHOPPING CENTER AS BIG AS MIDWAY PLAZA, THAT YOU WOULD TRY TO DO EVERYTHING IN A SECTION ALL AT ONCE AND NOT NECESSARILY TAKE CARE OF IT AS IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.SO FIVE YEARS I'M NOT HERE FAIR. BUT WE'RE AGAIN WE WE HAVE HEARD WE HAVE HEARD THE COMMUNITY WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE ENTIRE SEALCOATING. SO WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO WE'RE COMPLYING IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT.
WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT THE GOODWILL WOULD NEED TO GET THEIR SEO? I CAN ANSWER THAT. COMMISSIONER. WE WOULD EXPECT OUR INTERNAL BUILDOUT TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF TONIGHT'S HEARING, WHICH IS HONESTLY THE REASON WHY WE, WE DON'T RESPECTFULLY WANT TO BE TIED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS COMPLIANCE WINDOW.
THEY HAVE THEY HAVE SINCE CHANGED COURSE FROM THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, AS I THINK HE EXPLAINED TONIGHT.
BUT IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR HANDS, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY GOODWILL HAS DONE A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE.
THEY'VE THEY'VE INTENTIONALLY PICKED OUT THIS SITE.
THEY'RE VERY EXCITED TO OPEN THIS BRAND NEW STORE IN TAMARAC AND TO TO GO GET THIS FAR, SPEND ALL THAT MONEY, SPEND $1 MILLION AND RENOVATING THE WHOLE SPACE.
UNDERSTANDING IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A COMMISSION, HAVE MADE A POLICY DECISION ON.
FIRST READING IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD LIKE TO AVOID BECAUSE WE WANT TO BRING THIS STORE AND IT MIGHT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DEPENDING ON SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. I MEAN, I, I WANT TO VOTE YES ON YOUR ITEM.
AND I'M VERY MUCH INCLINED TO VOTE. YES. THE THE ISSUE IS THAT CONDITION NUMBER THREE, AND I BELIEVE THAT IF WE DO NOT LOOK CLOSELY AT THAT CONDITION, THEN WE LOSE OUR LEVERAGE AND THAT THIS BUSINESS OWNER MAY NOT FIX THE PLAZA IN THE TIME THAT WE WANT IT TO FIX, FOR THE RESIDENTS SAKE. SO I'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
SHE HAS A STRONG BACKGROUND IN CODE. ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WELL, BEFORE I WAS TAGGED THERE, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS. I THINK SOMEONE SPOKE A LITTLE BIT TO LOCAL CONTRACTORS, BUT I'M A LOT MORE CONCERNED WITH YOU KNOW, JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
AND SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT MODEL AND WHAT THAT WHAT YOUR WHAT YOUR INTENTION IS, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THE COMMITMENT BEHIND THAT LOOKS LIKE? BECAUSE WHILE WE COULD SAY A LOT OF LOT OF THINGS BEHIND THE PODIUM.
HOW DO YOU KNOW? HOW DOES THE CITY KNOW, IN FACT, THAT OUR RESIDENTS WILL HAVE FIRST DIBS ON A JOB WITH YOUR WITH YOUR COMPANY? SO EXCELLENT QUESTION. THAT HAPPENS TO BE ANOTHER THING THAT IS ONLY TO OUR BENEFIT TO BE ABLE TO HIRE AS LOCAL AS AS POSSIBLE.
WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT LOCALLY AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
THE VERY BEST THING WE COULD HAVE IS RESIDENTS OF TAMARAC WORKING IN TAMARAC THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE SPREAD ACROSS THE TWO COUNTY REGION, THAT EMPLOYEES THAT ARE LOCAL END UP TURNING OVER MUCH LESS BECAUSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, TRANSPORTATION AND THE TWO COUNTY REGION IS IS ROUGH.
SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING TAMARAC FIRST ON ON EMPLOYEES.
OKAY. SO SO BUT OKAY, SO CAN I. CAN I ADD ONE THING TO A GREAT THOUGHT THAT I KIND OF OVERLOOKED? WE'RE WE'RE ALSO OPEN TO PARTNER IN ANY WAY WE CAN.
YOU KNOW, HAVING YOU GUYS OR ONE OF ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS OR OTHERS THAT YOU KNOW OF IN THE COMMUNITY, PUT THOSE JOB LISTINGS UP FIRST. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'D BE VERY HAPPY TO DO THAT. OKAY. YOU GUYS SAID THAT ON RECORD, SO YES, I'LL BE.
NO, NO, IT'S COMPLETELY TO OUR BENEFIT. I WILL SAY THAT I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THRIFT.
HOW FAR IS GOODWILL? THE NEXT CLOSEST GOODWILL TO THIS LOCATION.
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DO WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN TAMARAC? WE DON'T. SO THE THE TWO CLOSEST STORES ARE THE STORE THAT WE IDENTIFY AS SUNRISE TWO AND CORAL SPRINGS. OKAY. I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A SITE ON COMMERCIAL THERE.THERE IS. SO COMMERCIAL IS IS OUR BROWARD HEADQUARTERS BUILDING.
AND WHAT THAT'S GOT IS AN OUTLET STORE. SO IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING DOESN'T SELL IN ONE OF OUR STORES ACROSS A FOUR WEEK PERIOD OF TIME GOES TO COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND WILL BE SOLD BY THE POUND RATHER THAN BY THE ITEM.
SO THE COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKELY HAVE TWO GOODWILLS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM EACH OTHER.
WELL, ACTUALLY 3 OR 4 IN OUR IN OUR, OUR FORMAT FOR THAT ARE KIND OF WHEN WE'RE INVESTIGATING AN AREA THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR A STORE, WE ARE OKAY AS LONG AS WE'RE A COUPLE MILES SEPARATED.
SO IT'S TWO MILES TO THREE MILES. AND ACTUALLY WE WANT THAT KIND OF DENSITY.
WE PROVE OUT EVERY TIME WE OPEN A NEW STORE THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY LEECHING FROM OTHER STORES, WE'RE ACTUALLY PENETRATING THE MARKET. IT'S IT'S REALLY ABOUT CONVENIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO SHOPPING.
WE FIND OUR SHOPPERS ALSO COME BACK EVERY WEEK BECAUSE A QUARTER OF OUR INVENTORY IS NEW EACH WEEK UNTIL THAT WEEK FOR 100% DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS FOUR WEEKS AGO. AND SURE, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS MODEL, MY CONCERN IS A STRATEGIC APPROACH TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
AND THAT LOCATION ON COMMERCIAL TENDS TO HOUSE A LOT OF VAGRANTS.
AND I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE DRIVEN PAST THERE.
I SURE HAVE. AND THAT AREA IS REALLY ONE OF OUR TOUGHEST AREAS TO MANAGE.
AND SO THAT NATURALLY FOR ME IS A CONCERN FOR THIS NEW SITE.
YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO JUST CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, OUR LONG TERM VISION FOR THE CITY. YOU KNOW, FROM A, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE MAYOR IS FOND OF DEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, AND AND JUST EVERYONE IS KIND OF TALKING ABOUT JUST HOW OUR DEMOGRAPHIC IS GROWING AND CHANGING.
OUR RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO SHOP TO, YOU KNOW, LIVE, WORK, PLAY, ETC..
AND I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 13 YEARS AND I KNOW THAT ONE LOCATION I DON'T THRIFT, BUT I KNOW THAT SITE, AND I WILL BE HONEST ON THIS BOARD AND SAY IF I LIVED OVER THERE, I'D BE PISSED.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A OF ANOTHER LOCATION.
BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I DIDN'T EXACTLY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
SO SO I MENTIONED THAT THE SITE AROUND THE CORNER HAS IT'S KIND OF JUNKY.
IT'S THERE'S A LOT OF VAGRANTS THAT HANG OUT OVER THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT WELL KEPT. BUT YOU DON'T MEAN A GOODWILL SITE.
YOU'RE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOME WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT'S SITE AROUND THE CORNER, THAT THERE IS A GOODWILL SITE THAT WE HAD REFERENCED ON THE MAP, RIGHT? AM I AM I ON? AM I ON BASE HERE? NO, NO, THAT'S THE PROPOSED NEW SITE WHERE WHERE WE'RE POINTING TO AT MIDWAY.
THOSE OTHER STORES AT SUNRISE AND CORAL SPRINGS.
SUNRISE ACTUALLY IS A GOOD TWO AND A HALF MILES AWAY.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALMOST THREE CORAL SPRINGS EVEN FURTHER AWAY.
OH. I'M SORRY. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU WHEN SO WHEN YOU SAID REFERENCE COMMERCIAL NOT COMMERCIAL.
RIGHT. RIGHT BY THERE. AND SO WE'VE GOT A BUILDING.
WHAT'S THE ADDRESS OF OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.
YEAH. SO IT'S. YEAH. NO, IT'S WAY DOWN COMMERCIAL.
WE HAD A SITE ON COMMERCIAL. WHERE THE WHERE THE SALVATION ARMY.
YEAH. NO. IT WAS. YEAH. IT WAS NOT GOODWILL. OH, OKAY.
SALVATION ARMY? YES. IT TURNED INTO HOT BINS.
OH, IT WAS A SALVATION ARMY. OKAY. YES, SURE.
COMPLETELY UNRELATED. WE HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
OKAY. ALL OF OUR STORES. I WILL TELL YOU, THESE 16 STORES, THEY'RE ALL LONG TERM TENANTS.
WE DON'T. WE DON'T COME AND GO. WE STAY FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY TAKE A LOT OF GOODWILL. IT'S A $200 MILLION A YEAR OPERATION.
YEAH. WE'RE SO THE THE LEASE ITSELF IS, YOU CAN IMAGINE WAY UP THERE IN DOLLARS.
THE RENO THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO THE BUILDING IS AND I JUST MENTIONED THAT REALLY THE THREE CLOSEST SITES WE'VE BEEN IN THE SUNRISE TWO LOCATION FOR 11 YEARS. IN THE OTHER SUNRISE LOCATION FOR 17 YEARS AND IN CORAL SPRINGS FOR 16 YEARS.
WE ARE WE ARE NO SALVATION ARMY. GOD BLESS THEM.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ANOTHER NONPROFIT. THEY ARE NOT WHAT A WHAT A GOODWILL STORE IS.
I'M GLAD YOU GUYS CLARIFIED THAT BECAUSE I WAS NOT FEELING IT AT ALL.
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SO SORRY I TOTALLY MISUNDERSTOOD WHEN YOU SAID THAT, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GOODWILL AROUND THE CORNER FROM GOODWILL.NO NO NO NO NO. WE WOULD NOT DO THAT. SO AT LEAST 2 TO 3 MILES MINIMUM.
OKAY. REGARDING CONDITION NUMBER THREE, I. CAN YOU TELL ME ONE MORE TIME, ATTORNEY, WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS REGARDING THIS, BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY INCLINED TO BE I FAVOR CLEANING IT UP BEFORE PUTTING IN THE NEW BUSINESS.
I THINK IT WAS STARTED IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.
THEY TOOK OCCUPANCY, I BELIEVE, IN LIKE JULY OR AUGUST.
AND THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE PLAZA. THE THE ARGUMENT IS THAT WE ARE NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER. WE HAVE NO LEAVE. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WE WANT TO OPEN THIS BRAND NEW STORE. WE WANT TO MAKE THIS INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
AND IT'LL BE HELD UP UNTIL THE PROPERTY OWNER COMPLIES THE VIOLATIONS.
WE DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE THINK THAT THIS IS THE ULTIMATE SHOWING OF GOOD FAITH, AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF TRYING TO GET THESE THINGS IRONED OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S FINES AND LIENS THAT WILL ACCRUE, WHICH IS THE OTHER HAMMER, IF YOU WILL.
AS THIS COMMISSION WILL KNOW, IS THAT YOU HAVE TO, TO HOLD PROPERTY OWNERS RESPONSIBLE.
AND DISCONNECT GOODWILL FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER'S OBLIGATION IN THE PLAZA AS A WHOLE.
I MEAN, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO SUGGEST, LIKE A TEMPORARY STAY IN AN AGREEMENT THAT YOU GUYS BE PROVIDED MAYBE 180 DAYS OR THE PROPERTY OWNER BE PROVIDED 180 DAYS POST OCCUPANCY TO REMEDY THE ISSUE, AND FAILURE TO COMPLY BY THAT POINT WOULD CREATE OR TRIGGER ANOTHER VIOLATION.
YEAH, I MEAN, SO. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THAT TIMING MATTERS TO US.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MAJOR INVESTMENT UP FRONT AND THEN NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE A MOVE IN DATE.
SO SOME KIND OF MIDDLE GROUND THAT GIVES THE OWNER PLENTY OF PLENTY OF TIME TO GET IT DONE.
THE ISSUE HASN'T BEEN RAISED FOR ALL THAT MANY MONTHS, AND IF YOU GUYS COULD SEE YOUR WAY THROUGH TO A TIMING, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. I THINK IS REASONABLE.
I JUST ADD SOMETHING. YEAH. SO SO WE WE'RE VERY MUCH AWARE, I THINK.
DAVID SHARED WITH YOU THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN AT CORAL SPRINGS AND SUNRISE STORES, AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT. IT'S WELL BEYOND THE NORMAL TEN YEAR TERM THAT WE GET, AND WE DEAL WITH MULTIPLE LANDLORDS.
BUT AS THEY TOOK OVER THE OWNERSHIP OF THE CENTER, THEY'VE BEEN NOTHING BUT RESPONSIVE.
SO WE EXPECT THEM TO DO RIGHT, NOT JUST BY US.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO DO RIGHT BY THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT I MEAN, IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD ENTERTAIN, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE ITEM FORWARD WITH WITH THE CONTINGENCY THAT THEY ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION THAT WOULD GIVE A STAY GIVING THE OWNER 180 DAYS TO MITIGATE THE ISSUE POST OCCUPANCY. FAILURE TO FAILURE TO COMPLY AT THAT POINT WOULD TRIGGER ANOTHER VIOLATION, IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CONFLATING GOODWILL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THESE PLAZA IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE OUR CASE WITH THEIR CODE CASE, AND THAT'S WHY I THAT'S HONESTLY WHY I'M RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THE CONDITION BE BE LIFTED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SHOP ONE. WE WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING ALL OF THAT.
THE THE RESURFACING WORK. I DON'T WANT TO PUT GOODWILL IN A POSITION WHERE THEY THEIR THEIR ABILITY TO OPEN THIS NEW STORE IS CONFLATED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THE PLAZA.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WELL, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU GET MARRIED, RIGHT?
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AND SOMEONE COMES IN WITH SCHOOL DEBT, IT BECOMES YOUR PROBLEM AS WELL.SO YOU GUYS ARE NOW IN A RELATIONSHIP. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE I THINK YOU GUYS HEARD A PRIOR ITEM WHERE ONE OF OUR MAJOR PRIORITIES AND CONCERNS HERE IS THE ESTHETICS.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT YOU GUYS ARE MOVING IN TOMORROW.
I BELIEVE I HEARD THE PROPERTY OWNER SAY THAT HE HAS INTENTION TO MITIGATE THE ISSUE BY MARCH 10TH, OR HAS A REQUIREMENT AT LEAST TO HAVE IT DONE BY MARCH 10TH.
IF YOU WOULD. JACK, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. I'M NOT GONNA SAY YOUR LAST NAME RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S OKAY. PLEASE DO ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT SPEAK DIRECTLY TO WHAT THE VIOLATIONS ARE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OF CLARIFICATION, AS WE TALK ABOUT ALL THIS, WE HAVE ON OUR LIST HERE, IT SAYS VARIOUS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE DOING? WHAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF BEING PERMITTED AND WHAT CLEARS UP THE VIOLATIONS? SO WHEN WE'RE BEING ASKED CERTAIN QUESTIONS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER, IT WILL HELP US OUT.
AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT AND UNDER PERMIT, POTHOLE FILLING AND, AND MILL AND FILL SEALCOAT AND STRIPE A PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT.
THAT BEING SAID, THE REQUIREMENT FROM FROM ORDINANCE, THEY GAVE US AN EXTENSION UNTIL MARCH 10TH.
AND RIGHT NOW, WE'VE JUST RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM STAFF THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, ALONG WITH AMENDING THE ORIGINAL PERMIT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO RELEASE.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO COMPLETE THE WORK.
WE ARE COMPLETELY COMMITTED TO COMPLETE THE WORK.
IT'S JUST RECEIVING THE PROPER AMOUNT OF TIME TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
SO IN WHICH AFTER MARCH 10TH WILL RESULT ACCORDING TO STAFF AND MY CONVERSATION WITH DINA LUGAR TODAY AND A $200 A DAY FINE AND POSSIBLE LIENS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE MAGISTRATE FOR AN ABATEMENT OF THAT OF THAT CONDITION. IF WE DON'T MEET IT BY MARCH 10TH.
BY THE LANDLORD. SO AT THIS TIME, VICE MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO FINISH FOR COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S COMMENTS? I WOULD JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MOTION IS, I JUST THINK, RESPECTFULLY, WE WOULD PROBABLY RATHER HAVE THE CONDITION IN PLACE THAN TO FURTHER DELAY THE DECISION OF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
YOU KNOW, WE'D RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE CONDITION EITHER BE LIFTED OR STAY IN PLACE, WHICH WOULD INCENTIVIZE A AN EARLIER CORRECTION TO THE EXISTING WORK. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. THANKS. I AM IN NO FORM OR FASHION CONFUSED BETWEEN THE BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO OPERATE, WHICH IS GOODWILL, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THIS IS OUR LEVERAGE. I UNDERSTAND. AND TO TAKE IT AWAY JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO OPEN A BUSINESS, THERE IS NOT A GOOD AX OF US. I MEAN, YOUR AX SHOULD BE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER.
PLEASE GET THIS FIXED. I'M SURE WHEN HE PURCHASED IT, THE ISSUES WERE THERE.
I'VE BEEN GOING THERE FOR YEARS. IT'S A VERY BUSY PLAZA.
CANNOT PARK. SO, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE UP THIS LEVERAGE WOULDN'T BE A SMART DECISION ON OUR PART.
THE STUFF NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND IT NEEDS TO BE WELL BE WELL MAINTAINED.
SO HE KNEW ABOUT IT. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY YOU WOULD NOT WANT THE 180 DAYS SINCE YOU WANT TO BE IN A PLAZA THAT LOOKS PRESENTABLE FOR THE CUSTOMERS TO TO COME
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TO ANYWAY. SURE. AND IF I'M MISUNDERSTANDING THE COMMISSIONER'S SUGGESTION, PLEASE CORRECT ME.BUT IF IF THE SUGGESTION IS TO IMPLEMENT 180 DAY EXTENSION OF TIME TO COMPLETE THE THE PLAZA RENOVATIONS. GOODWILL IS IN A POSITION WHERE WE WANT TO.
BUT GOODWILL CAN'T, IN GOOD FAITH, APPLY FOR A PERMIT TO MAKE $1 MILLION OF TENANT IMPROVEMENTS.
IF WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO OPEN THE STORE. RIGHT.
SO IF WE PULLED A DELAY OF SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
WHAT? WE'D HAVE TO WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE CONTRACTORS, HIRE ARCHITECTS, APPLY FOR PERMITS, AND START ALL OF THAT CONSTRUCTION WORK IN ADVANCE OF KNOWING WHETHER WE'D BE ABLE TO OPEN AT THE END OF THE DAY.
BUT I'M SAYING YOU CAN YOU CAN START ALL OF THAT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
THEY HAVE ONE YEAR. THERE ARE SIX MONTHS. STARTS TONIGHT.
YOU'RE SIX MONTHS TO DO CONSTRUCTION START. SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
YOU FINISH SIX MONTHS THEREAFTER. THEY HAVE ONE YEAR FROM TONIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT 180 DAYS MEAN? NO. AM I MISUNDERSTANDING? YEAH. I JUST THINK THAT THAT JUST DELAYS OUR OUR PROJECTED STORE OPENING TIMELINE AND OUR MODELS BY SIX MONTHS.
WHICH THINGS HAPPEN IN BUSINESS? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S REALLY THAT'S THAT'S THE DOWNSIDE.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE SIX MONTHS OR NOTHING.
AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO GET EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DONE.
AS AS MUCH AS WE CAN UNDERSTAND, IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.
ABSOLUTELY, SIR. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE.
SHE SAID SIX MONTHS. THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER.
I GO TO THAT PLAZA ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, NOBODY FIXES MY CAR WHEN IT RAMS INTO THE POTHOLES.
SO I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THEM. SO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO.
OKAY. THANK YOU. DID I MAKE THE MOTION OR DID I SECOND IT? PEOPLE THAT WISH TO SPEAK. SO. ARE YOU DONE? DID I MAKE THE MOTION OR DID SOMEBODY NOT. CLERK. ACTUALLY, YOU MADE THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT SECONDED THE MOTION. CLERK I GAVE YOU THE ANSWER, SIR.
TO THE CLERK I WILL ALLOW YOU TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DESPITE ALREADY ANSWERING IT.
YES, MA'AM. IT WAS YOUR MOTION, COMMISSIONER.
BOAT. OKAY. AND WHO? SECONDED. SECONDED. GO AHEAD.
YOU CAN TELL HIM WHO I JUST TOLD YOU. I SECONDED THE CLERK.
COMMISSIONER. RIGHT. OKAY. SO IF WE WERE SUPPOSED, IF WE WERE TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT? BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT IT.
AND IF I MAKE THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT DOES NOT ACCEPT IT, THAT MEANS THAT MOTION FAILS.
IT GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, AND WE CALL THE QUESTION I'M VOTING NO.
SO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. OUR PRIORITY HERE TONIGHT IS TO GET THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVED, BECAUSE WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT OPENING A NEW STORE IN TAMARAC. SO THE ANSWER IS YES.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I I JUST REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU KNOW, OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSION, ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND WORK THROUGH SO THAT WE'RE NOT BLINDSIDED? I HAD NO IDEA. BESIDES, OBVIOUSLY STAFF BRIEFING ME ON THE ITEM, I WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY RESPECTED YOU ALL AND RESPECTED HAVING A MEETING TO DISCUSS YOUR CONCERNS. SO THAT I WAS MORE FAMILIAR. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE MAYOR WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS PRIVY TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU GUYS ARE ENCOUNTERING.
AND SO WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO ASSIST, IT DOES COME BECOME A LITTLE COMPLEX.
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WE HAD NOT HEARD IT BEFORE, AND WE HAD PREVIOUSLY STATED WHAT OUR STRATEGIC VISION IS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE CITY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF ADDRESS THAT MISS CALLOWAY, WHAT AM I MISSING HERE? I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT GOODWILL.
THE APPLICANT IS THE OWNER OF THE PLAZA OR WHAT AM I MISSING HERE OR WHAT? WHAT? I MEAN, I REALIZED THAT THE PLANNING BOARD MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.
WHAT ARE THEY ASKING? OR ARE WE UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING. SURE. COMMISSIONER. THE APPLICANT IS GOODWILL.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, WHICH IN THE CODE IS A UNIQUE USE THAT REQUIRES CONSIDERATION AND SOMETIMES THE ADDITION OF CONDITIONS, WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE HERE BEFORE YOU.
ON THIS APPLICATION, STAFF HAS ADDED THREE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, TWO OF WHICH ARE VERY STANDARD.
HENCE THE REASON WHY WE ADDED THE THIRD CONDITION, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING NOW TO BE LIFTED, AND THE PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL AN ADDITIONAL OR A A SEPARATE AGREEMENT POST OCCUPANCY TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TIME FOR COMPLIANCE. DOES THAT, IN YOUR OPINION, ASSIST IN THIS IN THIS SITUATION WITH THE ATTORNEY'S REQUEST? SO THE OWNER IS HAVE A PENDING CASE BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE, AS THEY MENTIONED, WHICH THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS TO GET THE BUILDING PERMIT.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME EXTENSION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND THEN ONCE THE BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED, WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY AND NORMALLY WE DO IF WE KNOW IN GOOD FAITH YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO ABATE YOUR VIOLATION. WILL PROVIDE THOSE EXTENSIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY THROUGH THE MAGISTRATE PROCESS.
SO IF THAT'S YOUR INTENT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE EXTENSIONS ARE GIVEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ALLOW THEM TO DO THE WORK, THEN WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT THROUGH THE MAGISTRATE PROCESS.
RIGHT. IS THAT YOUR OBJECTIVE? YEAH. I MEAN YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN, WHILE I HEAR WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING THAT THEIR CONCERN WITH THE ISSUE AND IT ALMOST SEEMS AS IF, WELL, IF HE DOESN'T ABATE, WE HAVE AN ISSUE ON OUR HANDS IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERN CORRECTLY.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND PRIOR TO ME COMING BACK, YOU GUYS WERE GOOD WITH WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED, RIGHT? THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. I'M GOING TO TRY TO.
ARE THE. ARE YOU THE LANDLORD OF THE PROPERTY? TRYING TO DO ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE VIOLATION CURRENTLY.
SO IT WOULD BE CONCURRENT IF THIS GOES THROUGH AS IS FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER TO GO IN AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE IT IS READY TO OPEN, YOU'RE DONE WITH THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THEY GIVE YOU THE PERMITS, THEN THAT PART NUMBER THREE IS DONE.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORK DONE CONCURRENTLY.
SO CONCURRENTLY WITH THE TENANT DOING THEIR WORK.
SO OUR HOPE IS THAT WE COMPLETE IT BEFORE THEY'RE OPEN, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE HAVE GOODWILL HELD UP WHILE WE'RE STILL IF WE'RE STILL STUCK IN PERMITTING OR TRYING TO ACHIEVE GETTING THE WORK COMPLETE.
CORRECT. YEAH. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
IS THERE A WAY IN THE DISCUSSION TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN FEEDBACK TONIGHT, I PRESUME ON YOUR CONTRACT, ON YOUR PERMIT. YOU WILL RESPOND IN FIVE DAYS.
CITY WILL THEN AGREE TO RESPOND IN FIVE DAYS.
IN THIS WAY, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S MOVING ALONG SO THERE WON'T NEED TO BE FURTHER DELAYS.
AND THEN INSTEAD OF A SIX MONTH DELAY, IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
IS THERE SOME OTHER WAY TO GET IT TO WHERE YOU ARE HOLDING? YOU ARE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
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AGAIN, WE JUST NEED TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH STAFF HERE AND GETTING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.AND CURRENTLY THE PROCESS IS TAKING ALREADY TAKING LONGER.
THERE IS AN EXPEDITED REVIEW PROCESS THAT I LEARNED ABOUT TODAY FROM STAFF, BUT THAT WILL ONLY SAVE YOU A WEEK THROUGH EACH TRADE ON THE ON THE REVIEW PROCESS. AND IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE APPROVALS. AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS OF TODAY THAT WE LEARN AND OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE'S A 30 DAY REVIEW PERIOD FOR FOR STAFF TO REVIEW ANY OF THE PERMITS ON A NORMAL BASIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
WE'RE AMENDING THE PERMIT. WE'RE AMENDING THE PERMIT TO INCLUDE THE SEAL COATING FOR THE ENTIRE LOT.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ADD ON TO THAT PERMIT.
THE DUMPSTERS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE WERE THE LIENS CURRENTLY STAND.
UNDERSTAND THAT WORK IS NOT BEING PERFORMED BY SHOP ONE.
THAT IS PART OF SITE CENTERS. THE PRIOR PREDECESSOR OWNERS WORK TO COMPLETE WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING AFTER CONVERSATION WITH THEIR, THEIR MY COUNTERPART WITH SITE CENTERS OR CURB LINE PROPERTIES IS THAT THEY EXPECT TO HAVE FINAL INSPECTIONS IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'LL RECEIVE THEM.
AND THEN WE JUST LEARNED TODAY FROM ABOUT THE THE PAINTING, THE PAINTING OR THE FACADE BEING DIRTY.
BUT THAT JUST CAME UP TODAY, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN AN ACTUAL SIGHTING YET.
MISS CALLAWAY, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A PREEXISTING VIOLATION, SINCE IT WAS JUST SEEN TODAY AND THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN IN THE PAINTING? WHAT DO YOU MEAN, A PREEXISTING. WELL, THE IT SAYS RIGHT HERE ANY PREEXISTING CODE VIOLATIONS SHALL BE SATISFIED BEFORE BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.
THE DAY OF THE APPLICATION. THERE'S NO VIOLATION BECAUSE IT JUST WAS SEEN TODAY.
THERE IS NO LONGER A FIVE YEAR PLAN. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT I'M SAYING THERE'S NO LONGER A FIVE YEAR PLAN IN TERMS OF WHERE THE SEALCOATING IS AT, BUT IF WE'RE PAINTING, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ANOTHER PERMIT PROCESS HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE COSMETIC.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER GOT TO GO SEE CONTRACTORS GET BIDS PERMITS INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND.
PAINTING IS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. IT IS NOT YET A VIOLATION.
IT'S NOT A PREEXISTING MISS CALLOWAY. BUT WE ARE AGREEING TO COMPLETING ALL OF THE SEALCOATING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE EXISTING VIOLATION FOR THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IS NO LONGER AN ISSUE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEN EVERYTHING WOULD BE ABATED AHEAD OF GOODWILL POTENTIALLY MOVING IN.
THAT IS THE HOPE. THAT IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN EXPRESSING.
THEIR CONCERN HAS BEEN ABOUT THE PERMIT PROCESSING TIME.
AND I ASKING CITY IS IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS AS AN ISSUE.
IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME POINT PROCESS IN SOME GOOD FAITH BETWEEN BOTH APPLICANT AND CITY TO MOVE IT ALONG? YEAH, AND WE CAN WORK WITH THAT. THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS HERE. AND SO IT THEREFORE MEANS THAT THAT THIRD CONDITION CAN REMAIN AS IT IS.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME. ASSISTANT CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THEY'VE GOT IT COVERED, BUT THEY DON'T WANT WE DON'T WANT THEM TO MAKE A DECISION UNDER DURESS THAT THAT SIX MONTH DELAY OF EVEN BEING ABLE TO START THEIR PROCESS IS MUCH MORE OF DURESS.
IF THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO GET THIS ALL WORKED OUT WITHIN SIX MONTHS, AND THEY ARE WORKING CONCURRENTLY WHILE THE LANDLORD'S FIXING THINGS, THEN THE THE TENANT IS PUTTING IN THEIR $1 MILLION WORTH OF REPAIRS TO THE PLACE.
THEN IT'S CONCURRENT AND IT'S NOT. IT'S SIX MONTHS VERSUS A YEAR.
SO IT IS NOT WORSE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. IT'S IN OUR INCENTIVE TO GET THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE TRIGGER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND.
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FIXED BEFORE YOU CAN MOVE IN. SO YOU SAY YOU UNDERSTAND? YES. YES, I DO UNDERSTAND. SO IF I COULD JUST ADD CLARITY.SO, YOU KNOW, POINT OF CLARIFICATION, YOU CAN NOW THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXACT ITEMS THAT ARE TO DO AND HEARING THAT PAINTING THAT WAS VERY RECENTLY BROUGHT UP IS NOT NOT THE ISSUE.
IT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SOUNDS PRETTY CLEAR.
WE FEEL MUCH BETTER ABOUT THE DEAL AS WE ENTERED, WHICH IS WHICH IS.
POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I WAS RECOMMENDING.
THAT SAYS THAT WHILE YOU GUYS ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH YOUR ARRANGEMENTS, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS DOING HIS DUE DILIGENCE ON ABATING, THE ISSUE THAT YOU ALL POST OCCUPANCY NOW WOULD RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL 180 DAYS IN THE EVENT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT YET ABATED TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE. IF FOR SOME REASON, EVEN AT THAT POINT, HE IS STILL NOT DONE.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH YOU.
I UNDERSTAND. I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE LAWYER, OUR LAWYER, IS THEN THAT PENALTY COMES BACK AGAINST US WITH OUR INABILITY TO MOVE IN, LET'S SAY SOME IN SOME WAY. IT EXCEEDED THE 180 DAYS.
THEN WE'RE ON THE HOOK FOR FOR THE OWNERS COMPLETING THAT WORK TIMELY.
AND SO WE'D RATHER BE NOT HINGED LEGALLY TO ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES THE OWNER'S COMPLETION.
WE'RE GOING TO REST ON HIS WORD THAT HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO GET IT DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION.
AND SOME OF IT IS JUST GAINING CLARITY TONIGHT.
SORRY THIS THING HAS TAKEN SO LONG, BUT I'M PRETTY CLEAR ON IT NOW.
AND HEARING BACK THAT STAFF IS SAYING THIS IS THE DISCRETE LIST OF ITEMS. HE'S HEARING IT. IT'S NOT SOME FURTHER FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PROJECT ON THE ENTIRE REST OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE BETWEEN YOU AND THE OWNER.
BUT WHAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DISCRETE LIST OF ITEMS, AND WE FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN GO IN THE HOLE FOR A BUNCH OF MONEY ANYWAY.
POINT OF ORDER. GO AHEAD. MISS CALLAWAY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO VERBALIZE TONIGHT WHAT THE LIST OF THINGS ARE THAT THEY NEED TO DO AND VERBALIZE ON THE RECORD THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO TAKE FIVE YEARS, THAT THAT IS QUASHED.
YEAH. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE LIFTED THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. I KNOW THAT IN SPEAKING WITH MY CODE MANAGER, SHE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE FIVE YEAR PLAN WAS STILL THERE.
COMMISSIONER. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MY STAFF DID THE PAINTING AS A COURTESY TODAY.
SO THAT WOULD NOT BE APPLICABLE TO TO THIS THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT CONDITION CAN REMAIN, AND THE INTENTION IS FOR GOODWILL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IN BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOW COMMITTING TO ADDRESSING THOSE VIOLATIONS.
AND CAN WE HEAR FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, JUST SAY ON THE RECORD THAT THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IS NO LONGER EXISTENT? THE FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR SEALCOATING THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT NO LONGER EXISTS.
YOU MADE IT SPECIFIC TO TO SEAL COATING AND VIOLATION.
NO, YOU MADE IT SPECIFIC TO TO SEAL COATING AND THAT SORT OF STUFF.
GARBAGE BIN VIOLATIONS, WHICH WE ARE PRESSURING THE PRIOR, THE PRIOR PREDECESSOR OWNER, AND I CAN'T COMMIT TO A PAINTING AND PAINTING AS PART OF THE PLAN BECAUSE THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT VIOLATION IS YET AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS, AND THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, THAT GARBAGE BIN.
THAT'S THAT'S ALL OVER. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE BEING BUILT.
THOSE ARE I MEAN, I THINK STAFF HAS SAID THOSE ARE.
MISS CALLOWAY, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COMMENT AND ADVISE THE STATUS OF CONSTRUCTION.
IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE ENCLOSURES ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS THE PREDECESSOR OWNER AS PART OF THEIR UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
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AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO COMPLETE THAT WORK.THERE ARE POTHOLES. SO IT'S GOING TO BE STRIPING, MILLING AND RESURFACING.
CORRECT. SO SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO BE DONE IN TANDEM WITH THE COMMISSIONER? NOTHING ELSE. THE PAINTING CAN HAPPEN. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S A COURTESY NOTICE THAT YOU RECEIVED TODAY.
SO THAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER. I HAVEN'T EVEN IT'S NOT A VIOLATION.
AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT IS THE ACTUAL VIOLATION THAT IS DEALING FOR YOUR BUSINESS, JACK, IS THE MILLING OF THE PARKING LOT. IF YOU MILL AND SEALCOAT THE PARKING LOT, IT TAKES CARE OF THE POTHOLES AND POTHOLES AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VIOLATED FOR IN THAT SPECIFIC VIOLATION. THAT IS A PREEXISTING CONDITION HERE.
WE GET IT. AND WHILE HE FEELS A LITTLE HELPLESS BECAUSE THE PRIOR OWNER IS DOING THE ENCLOSURES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE ALMOST DONE. SO THERE'S A GOOD BUSINESS DECISION FOR YOU? YES. SO WE'RE HELPING YOU. WE'RE GOOD. GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
I'M GONNA CALL THE QUESTION. CITY CLERK ROLL CALL.
VICE MAYOR. DANIEL. YES, COMMISSIONER. RYAN. YES, COMMISSIONER.
PATERSON. YES. YES. GOMEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER.
YES. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
YOU HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GET HOME SAFELY.
WELCOME TO TAMARAC. WE'RE SURE WE'LL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU. AND THAT SUIT IS NOT FROM THE THRIFT STORE.
WELL, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAVE A NEW, NEW CATEGORY.
HAVE A GREAT NIGHT FOR NON THRIFT. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. IT'S 1215. I HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR ANOTHER RESTROOM BREAK.
CAN WE DO IT IN FIVE MINUTES? LET'S BE REALISTIC.
WE CAN DO NOTHING IN FIVE MINUTES. CAN. CAN WE JUST CONTINUE WHILE WHOEVER WANTS A BATHROOM BREAK.
GO. NO, WE HAVE NO BACKUP, CLARK. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.
WE'LL BE BACK IN TEN MINUTES. 12. WE'LL BE BACK AT 12:25 A.M..
HEY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 925. AND WE HAVE APPROACHED THE TIME THAT WE CALL IT OTHER.
HOWEVER, WE ARE STILL IN A COMMISSION MEETING.
WE HAVE NOT ADJOURNED FROM A COMMISSION MEETING AND IS STILL UNDER THE AGENDA OF OTHER AND THEREFORE TECHNICALLY 2-34HBC STATES THAT WE CANNOT FILIBUSTER, OR B AND C NO MEMBER MAY FILIBUSTER.
NO MEMBER MAY SPEAK MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES CONTINUOUSLY.
EXCEPT TO LEAVE THE COMMISSION. DECISION OF THE COMMISSION IS ALWAYS FINAL, AND THE MEMBER MAY SPEAK A SECOND TIME ON ANY ONE QUESTION ONLY AFTER ALL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I SHARE THAT DUE TO TRYING TO KEEP SOME CIVILITY AND UNIFORMITY TO THE HOUR IN WHICH WE ARE.
SO IF WE CAN AT LEAST GO BACK TO THE FIVE AND TWO, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE ITEMS LEFT, AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE US IF WE USE ALL THAT TIME TO WHAT, 130? SOMEBODY WHO'S GOOD WITH MATH. QUARTER TWO. ANYWHO, THAT IS THE HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THIS EVENING.
I KNOW THAT HE DID HAVE A RESIDENT IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S BEEN WAITING TO HEAR THAT ITEM WITH HIM.
I WOULD BE OKAY WITH MOVING MINE AND ALLOWING HIM TO DO HIS ITEM SO THAT SHE CAN LEAVE.
[10.c Discussion and Consensus on a Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, expressing support for Commissioner Marlon Bolton's Green Tamarac Initiative. Requested by Commissioner Marlon Bolton ]
FLORIDA, EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR COMMISSIONER BOLTON MARLON BOLTON GREEN INITIATIVE BEING REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON COMMISSIONER BOLTON.PLEASE SUMMARIZE THE ITEM AND WE WILL THEN GO BACK TO TEN A.
TNA OR UNLESS IT'S ORGANIZED, BETTER TO GO BACK TO TENBY AND THEN GO TO TNA.
I ISSUED TO THE CITY CLERK THE SOME DOCUMENTS.
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I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY COMMISSION ALREADY HAVE IT.AND FORMER MAYOR EILEEN LIEBERMAN. MICHAELSON.
SO IF MISS MICHAELSON WOULD WANT TO COME TO THE PODIUM AS WELL THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
TO JUST CHIME IN OR TO OUR TAG TEAM WITH ME. BUT THIS ITEM WAS PARTICULARLY YOU KNOW, BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY MISS MICHELSON. AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A WONDERFUL ITEM THAT I WANT TO CHAMPION TONIGHT.
THE TAMARAC GREEN INITIATIVE IS A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY PROGRAM DESIGNED TO PROMOTE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND PUBLIC HEALTH IN TAMARAC.
THIS INITIATIVE, SPEARHEADED BY MYSELF AND OF COURSE COINED BY MISS MICHELSON, AIMS TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO TAKE CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT BY PLANTING TREES THAT ARE NOT PROHIBITED BY THE CITY AND THAT FOLLOW CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES IMPROVING THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY AND MAINTAINING GARDENS TO PRODUCE HOMEGROWN VEGETABLES AND FRUITS.
ADDRESSING FOOD INSECURITIES BY PROMOTING ECO FRIENDLY PRACTICES AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
THE TAMARAC GREEN INITIATIVE SEEKS TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, FOSTER A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AND CONTRIBUTE TO A HEALTHIER AND MORE SUSTAINABLE TAMARAC FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
SO, MISS MICHELSON I WAS VERY IMPRESSED. I HAPPENED TO VISIT HER HOUSE AND SAW HER GARDEN, AND SHE YOU KNOW, GROWS THESE WONDERFUL PLANTS.
AND SHE HAS SEEDS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES ARE DONATED.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS TO PLANT TREES.
WE'VE TESTED IT OUT AT A COUPLE OF EVENTS. AND WHEN WE DO THAT, THEY FLY OFF THE SHELVES.
RESIDENTS COME ASK FOR MORE. SO THIS INITIATIVE THIS TAMARAC GREEN INITIATIVE PROMOTES ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY BY ENCOURAGING RESIDENTS TO TAKE CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT, PLANT TREES, AND IMPROVE THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY IN THE CITY.
AND, OF COURSE YOU KNOW, IF WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO YOU KNOW, PLANT THEIR OWN TOMATOES AND PEPPERS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF, THEN IN, IN, IN A GARDEN THAT IS BEFITTING, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PROPERTY IN MASS TO DO IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT SOLVES FOOD INSECURITIES AS WELL.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. BECAUSE THE HOUR IS LATE. I'M GOING TO MAKE MY COMMENTS VERY SHORT.
PLEASE PASS THIS INITIATIVE. I CAN TELL YOU, HAVING WORKED ON THIS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WHEN COMMISSIONER BOLTON SAID THE PLANTS FLY OFF THE TABLE.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. LITERALLY WITHIN AN HOUR, EVERYBODY HAS COME FORWARD AND TAKEN EITHER A MANGO TREE OR AN AVOCADO TREE, OR VEGETABLE PLANTS OR LANDSCAPING PLANTS, ALL OF WHICH IS GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO REMIND ALL OF YOU IS ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT GIVING OUT HOME, GARDEN SEEDS AND HOME GARDEN PLANTS LIKE TOMATOES, PEPPERS, CUCUMBERS, SQUASH. WHEN MICHELLE OBAMA WAS THE FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES, SHE HAD AN INITIATIVE WHICH SHE SPEARHEADED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GROW THEIR FOOD AND TO HAVE HOME GARDENS THAT TAMARAC WOULD FOLLOW IN HER FOOTSTEPS TO ME, IS A WONDERFUL IDEA.
SO PLEASE PASS THIS. IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. PEOPLE LOVE IT AND IT AIDS THE CANOPY.
IT HELPS INCREASE YOUR TREE CANOPY. IT GIVES PEOPLE OPTIONS FOR GARDENS AND LANDSCAPING.
WE ALSO PROVIDE PLANTS FOR THAT AS WELL. SO PLEASE PASS THIS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MICKELSON. AND YOU KNOW, A ONE WOULD ASK, OKAY, WHY PUT THIS IN A RESOLUTION? I DON'T JUST WANT THIS TO BE A DISTRICT INITIATIVE.
I WANT TO ESTABLISH THIS AS A PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMISSION TO THINK ABOUT DOING.
WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR INITIATIVES AND THAT SORT OF STUFF.
OF COURSE YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME PLANS AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS THAT NEED IT.
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IT'S IT'S ATTENTION GRABBING. IT SERVES A GREAT PURPOSE.AND SO YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LOOK AT THIS RESOLUTION.
OF COURSE, RESOLUTIONS ARE NOT LAWS. THEY'RE EXPRESSIONS.
IT'S JUST WHAT WE THINK IS A BODY COLLECTIVE.
AND I'D APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU.
I JUST SO I PLANTED, AND I GUESS IT'S FOR MISS MICHELSON.
SEVERAL VEGETABLE GARDEN MANGO TREES FINALLY HAVE MANGO BLOSSOM THIS YEAR, SO I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY.
BUT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HELP STOP THE IGUANAS? BECAUSE MY VEGETABLE GARDEN WAS COMING UP REAL GOOD.
AND THEN ONE DAY I WENT OUT. EVERYTHING WAS GONE TO THE TO THE ROOT.
REALLY. THERE WAS NOTHING BUT DIRT LEFT. SO IF WE PUT ALL THIS WORK IN PUTTING VEGETABLES, HOW DO WE STOP THE IGUANAS FROM EATING THEM? YEAH, YEAH, I DOUBT HE CAN.
I DON'T THINK HE KNOWS. YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN EVERY WHENEVER SOMEONE COMES UP TO GET A PLANT, I TELL THEM ABOUT THE PLANT AND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PLANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT WILL GROW SUCCESSFULLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT IS THE IMPACT OF IGUANAS ON VEGETABLES.
YOU CAN BUY A GARLIC CLOVE AND BULB AND SPLIT IT UP AND PUT IT AROUND YOUR PLANT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE IGUANAS DON'T LIKE.
THERE'S OTHER PLANTS LIKE MINT, WHICH ALSO REPEL THE IGUANAS AND OTHER INSECTS AND INSECTS AND OTHER ANIMALS FROM EATING THE PLANTS. BUT I DO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THE CARE IS OF THE PLANT, AND IF THEY CAN'T COMMIT TO THE CARE, THEY DON'T GET THE PLANT.
NOT YOU. SO YOU SAY GARLIC. I DID ALOE AND CITRUS.
I CAN'T HEAR YOU. AND I SAY, SAY GARLIC. WELL, I DID ALOE AND CITRUS.
BUT GARLIC, THEY WANT TO JUST WON'T EAT THE GARLIC.
I'M SORRY. THE IGUANA WON'T EAT. PLEASE. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE.
I WISH YOU GUYS COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE IGUANAS, BUT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE IGUANAS? I KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, ERODE AND EVERYTHING, BUT I WAS JUST WANTING SOME GARLIC.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BUT I WILL SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE.
I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. SO BEFORE ANYBODY STARTS SAYING THIS IS A ME VERSUS MARLON THING, IT IS NOT A ME VERSUS MARLON THING. I THINK THAT GREEN INITIATIVES IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND MISS MAXINE.
YOU CAN PLEASE COME FORTH AND SAY WHAT THE CITY'S GREEN INITIATIVES ARE.
WE HAVE A SERIES OF GREEN INITIATIVES. BUT SPECIFIC TO THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS READ BY THE COMMISSIONER, THE PLANTING OF TREES AND THE GROWING OF PLANTS, AND TO AVOID FOOD DESERTS AND SO ON.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY LIKE THAT.
THAT'S TO THE EXTENT OF THAT SPECIFIC TYPE OF GREEN INITIATIVE AS IT RELATES TO FOOD DESERTS, BUT NOT TO THAT LEVEL. BUT WE DO HAVE OTHER GREEN PROGRAMS IN TERMS OF SOLAR PANEL, JUST IN OTHER INITIATIVES. BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL THE COMMISSIONER READ HIS RESOLUTION AND REALIZED IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC TO PLANTING OF TREES AND GIVING OUT PLANTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PLANTING VEGETABLE. AND THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE IN COMPARISON TO THAT IS THE COMMUNITY GARDEN DESIGNATION FOR ALL RESIDENTIALLY ZONED AREAS, PROVIDED THAT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN IS WITHIN A COMMON AREA.
SO THAT'S IN THE CODE. WE ALSO HAVE A TREE USA.
WE DO PLANT OUR TREES. WE HAVE THAT INITIATIVE AS WELL.
IT'S PART OF OUR GREEN CITY HISTORY USA. AND I APOLOGIZE, THE PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR.
YEAH. SO I'M I'M. I KNOW THAT DOES SOUND FAMILIAR, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW OFTEN WE DO THAT PROGRAM.
EVERY YEAR WE'VE BEEN GIVEN AN AWARD FOR. OH, YEAH.
THEY PLANT THEIR HERBS. THEY'VE GOT ALL THEIR KINDS OF GROWING THINGS.
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WE DO HAVE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T ALLOW FOR MANGO TREES TO BE IN THEIR HOME BECAUSE OF THE BUGS AND THE SQUIRRELS, AND THE FACT THAT IT GOES ON TO THEIR NEIGHBOR'S YARD AND WHATEVER OTHER ISSUES THAT COME UP WITH IN CERTAIN HOMES.I THINK THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE A SCHOOL THAT HAS A COMMUNITY GARDEN.
IN STONEMAN DOUGLAS, WE HAVE THE LOWER SCHOOL.
THE CHALLENGER GOES OVER AND THEY WORK TOGETHER ON THE GARDEN THERE.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT ONE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER ONLY WORKS IN THEIR DISTRICT.
IT'S NOT DESIGNATED SOLELY FOR ONE PERSON. WE'VE HAD OTHER COMMISSIONERS DO SOMETHING FOR A STROKE.
IT HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNATED ONLY FOR ONE DISTRICT.
IT'S FOR EVERYBODY. SO I THINK THAT HAVING A SPECIFICALLY NAMED RESOLUTION AFTER AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE COMMISSION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS A COMMISSION INITIATIVE. AND THE WORD INITIATIVE IN AND OF ITSELF MEANS IT'S ONE PERSON'S PASSION.
THEN CONTINUE YOUR PASSION, GO FORTH AND DO WHATEVER YOU WERE DOING.
AND IF OTHER PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION WANT TO GIVE OUT TREES AND PLANTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF, GOOD. BUT NOT IN A RESOLUTION, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT HAS WORDING AND VERBIAGE IN HERE THAT HAS NO BUDGET, NO SCOPE OF ACTUALLY WHAT IT IS.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS? WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS? DOES EVERY TIME THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO HAVE A TREE, WE ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO GO GIVE A LINE ITEM AND GO GET A BUNCH OF TREES AND GIVE IT OUT LIKE THERE. THIS IS UNFETTERED THERE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A SOUND GOOD, NICE TYPE OF THING, BUT I THINK IT IS NOT IN AN APPROPRIATE FORMAT FOR US TO BE DOING.
AND WE HAVE STRATEGIC PLANNING NEXT WEEK. WHY DON'T WE JUST TALK ABOUT IT IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, IF YOU REALLY WANT IT TO BE A CITY INITIATIVE AND SOMETHING FOR THE CITY TO DO, THEN IT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND NOT BEING DONE WITH THE WITH THE RESOLUTION.
I WOULDN'T CARE IF MY NAME WAS ON IT OR ANYBODY ELSE'S NAME IS ON IT.
SO AGAIN, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS FASHION.
SO ANYWAY, IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, THEN I WILL PULL FOR CONSENSUS.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, THANK YOU MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO BE A CO-SPONSOR ON THE ITEM.
I THINK IT'S SUPER. I ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR ME TO DO IT NOW THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS.
SO I WOULD BE OPEN TO IF IT'S IF THAT'S AN OPTION.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, I'D LOVE TO CO-SPONSOR THE ITEM WITH YOU. ABSOLUTELY.
COMMISSIONER PATTERSON AND I SAID IN MY COMMENTARY THAT I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST BE A DISTRICT.
ONE THING I WANT IT TO BE A CITY WIDE THING. I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO TO DO THIS.
RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WANT TO DO IT IN YOUR DISTRICT AS WELL, YOU KNOW MISS LIEBERMAN MISS MICHELSON YOU KNOW, LOVES TO PUT THESE STICKERS ON, ON THE, ON THE PLANS THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, A GIFT FROM, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER MARLON BOLTON OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND SO IN YOUR DISTRICTS AS WELL, WHEN YOU'RE GIVING OUT TREES OR PLANTS OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU PUT A STICKER THAT SAYS A GIFT FROM COMMISSIONER.
IT'S THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT MEANS. IT JUST MEANS THAT THIS IS A PASSION OF MINE THAT I'VE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION, AND I WANT YOU TO SUPPORT IT AND REINVENT IT IN YOUR DISTRICTS AND WHEREVER YOU GO.
SPREAD THE LOVE OF. VEGETABLES AND PLANTS.
IF THAT WAS PART OF YOUR REQUEST ON IT, THEN PLEASE MAKE THAT CLEAR, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT PART WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY SAYING, WE CAN ALL DO THIS, BUT WE'RE DOING IT UNDER THE MARLON BOLTON RESOLUTION.
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I SEE YOUR POINT. AND I SEE THAT THE RESOLUTION IS DRAFTED QUITE SPECIFIC TO TO STATE THAT.SO I'LL JUST SUPPORT THE ITEM. THAT'S FINE. IT COULD STAY THE WAY THAT IT THAT IT IS. AND, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING YOUR NAME LISTED AS A CO-SPONSOR.
I SUPPORT YEAH. SO. YOU'VE GOT THE AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION TO INCLUDE COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S NAME ON IT, AND YOU'VE GOT FOR CONSENSUS.
THAT'S ALL YOU NEED. THERE'S NO VOTING ON IT. JUST WILL THEN COME BACK AS A RESOLUTION.
BECAUSE I HEARD COMMISSIONER PARIS IS SAYING SHE WOULDN'T CARE TO HAVE HER NAME ON IT.
WELL, SINCE THE RESOLUTION IS ALREADY BEING PRESENTED AS TO NOT DELAY IT, I'M OKAY WITH NOT BEING.
I'M OKAY WITH IT NOT BEING REDRAFTED AND JUST SUPPORTING THE INITIATIVE AS DRAFTED.
BUT THE RESOLUTION HAS TO COME BACK FOR A COMMISSION MEETING BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS ON THIS NOW TO THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING FOR A VOTE. ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, NO, I THIS YOU YOU EVEN SAID AT THE VERY START OF THIS PRESENTATION THAT THIS IS STILL A COMMISSION MEETING. SO I'D RATHER THIS NOT BE CONSENSUS.
I'M SPEAKING. YES, I KNOW THIS IS THIS IS STILL A COMMISSION MEETING.
IT IS NOT A WORKSHOP. SO WE DON'T USE LANGUAGE AS A WORKSHOP.
WE'RE STILL IN COMMISSION MEETING. THIS IS WHAT YOU ALSO SAID.
I'D LIKE A SOUND VOTE, AND I'D LIKE THE RESOLUTION BE ADOPTED TONIGHT.
LOOK, I DON'T CARE. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A PROBLEM WITH OUR RULES, RIGHT? THERE'S CONFLICT.
DON'T GIVE ME THAT LOOK. IT'S THREE PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU.
THREE. IT HAS TO HAVE CONSENSUS FOR AN ITEM TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN IT GOES TO A VOTE. SO YOU GOT TO MAKE.
WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT. MAYBE WE NEED ANOTHER WORKSHOP AND FIX UP OUR RULES.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP WORKSHOP ON A COMMISSION MEETING.
THERE'S A PROBLEM. SO WE DON'T STICK TO THINGS.
TO HAVE THIS PUT ON A COMMISSION MEETING, IT GOES TO THE NEXT MEETING LIKE IT ALWAYS HAS.
FIRST OF ALL, MAN I'M NOT WITH RESPECT TO THE RULES, I THINK THAT WAS A RULE THAT WAS ADOPTED AS AN UNWRITTEN RULE BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, BUT NEVERTHELESS, IF THE COMMISSION WANT TO VOTE ON ITEM A RESOLUTION, THAT'S THAT'S WHEN THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSION.
SO IT'S NOT RESOLUTIONS COME BEFORE THE PUBLIC IN ORDER FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, IF IT'S IN A RESOLUTION AND THE PUBLIC DID NOT HAVE AN ACTUAL OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM AS A RESOLUTION, YOU ARE NOT GIVING THE PUBLIC THE NOTICE THAT IT NEEDS YOU.
LOOK, YOU WANT TO VIOLATE STATUTE, GO FOR IT.
THERE'S NO VIOLATION IN ANY STATUTE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
OKAY, RESOLUTIONS REQUIRE PUBLIC COMMENT. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT.
WHATEVER I DON'T I DON'T CARE ANYMORE ON THIS PUBLIC.
YOU WANT TO DO THIS AND YOU WANT TO GO OUT OF TURN.
CALL THE VOTE. YOU, MADAM. YOU, MADAM. MADAM.
MAYOR. POINT UP TO THE PUBLIC. POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
THE RESOLUTION IS PROPERLY INSERTED IN IN THE BACKUP INFORMATION.
IT THE PUBLIC HAD HAS A RIGHT TO SEE IT. AND IF YOU BELIEVE THAT WE ARE RUNNING AFOUL OF THE LAW.
I'D IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. I'M ASKING YOU TO OPEN PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
WE'RE STILL IN A PUBLIC MEETING, SO. BUT WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, I UNDERSTAND, MADAM EXPERT, GO AHEAD AND OPEN. BUT THE THING IS, PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN NOTICE BECAUSE THEY KNOW IF THEY DON'T SPEAK, IT IS COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE, YOU'RE GOING TO POINT IT TO ME AND I'M GOING TO FINISH MY SENTENCE. THE PUBLIC DID NOT HAVE NOTICE THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ITEM WHERE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE THEY HAVE KNOWN THAT ANYTHING UNDER TEN ON TEN CONSIDERED OTHER, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
SO THEREFORE, THERE IS NO AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.
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AND NO THEY DON'T. THEY HAVE THE 40. THEY DO NOT HAVE PARTICIPATION, ACTUALLY.COMMISSIONER. ACTUALLY, EVEN DOCTOR DARCY SCHILLER TALKED.
COMMISSIONER. BOLTON. MR.. I BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WAS HELD ALREADY.
YEAH. AND AND ONE OF THE. AND DOCTOR KATE JOHNSON ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT ITEM ABOUT IT.
YEAH. SO, SO BUT KNOWING THAT IT USUALLY COMES BACK TO A VOTE AT A NEXT MEETING.
AND AGAIN HOW THE RESOLUTIONS ARE DONE. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
FINE. I'LL TAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND AND GET RID OF THIS.
SO MOVED. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR. BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
CALL THE ROLL. MAYOR GOMEZ. NO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
YES. COMMISSIONER RYAN. YES. COMMISSIONER. PATTERSON.
YES. VICE MAYOR. DANIEL. YES. MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1.
GOOD NIGHT. DRIVE HOME SAFELY. WHILE WE'RE ON INITIATIVES, OR DO YOU WANT TO GO TO YOUR ITEM, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON? SHALL WE JUST. WHATEVER YOU'RE OKAY WITH.
LET'S JUST FINISH OFF THIS. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO ITEM TEN B COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
[10.b Discussion and Consensus on a Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, expressing support for Commissioner Marlon Bolton's Fitzone and Wellness Initiative. Requested by Commissioner Marlon Bolton ]
IT IS DISCUSSION AND CONSENSUS. OR AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S A MOTION ON A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR COMMISSIONER BOLTON MARLON BOLTON FIT ZONE AND WELLNESS INITIATIVE REQUESTED BY YOURSELF.PLEASE PROCEED. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
RESOLUTION IS NOT. YOU NEED A NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO MOVED.
SECOND. THANK YOU. MAY I BE RECOGNIZED, MAYOR? YOU MAY. THANK YOU. SO THE FIT ZONE INITIATIVE IS A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY WELLNESS PROGRAM DESIGNED TO PROMOTE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, MENTAL WELLNESS, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AMONG TAMARAC RESIDENTS.
THIS INITIATIVE AIMS TO CREATE A CULTURE OF WELLNESS AND HEALTHY LIVING IN TAMARAC THROUGH FIT ZONE.
RESIDENTS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO A RANGE OF FREE FITNESS CLASSES, HEALTH SCREENING ACTIVITIES THAT CATER TO A DIVERSE TO DIVERSE AGES, ABILITIES AND INTERESTS BY PROVIDING A SUPPORTIVE AND INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENT.
FIT ZONE SEEKS TO EMPOWER RESIDENTS TO TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR HEALTH, BUILD STRONGER RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND CONTRIBUTE TO A VIBRANT AND THRIVING COMMUNITY.
I PILOTED FIT ZONE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. A FEW DAYS AGO.
IT WAS WELL ATTENDED, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD WEATHER ISSUES.
WEATHER ISSUES. MEANING IT WAS EXTREMELY COLD THAT MORNING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW RON WASSERMAN ALWAYS COMES TO TALK ABOUT PROSTATE CANCER AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY AND TRULY HIS WARNINGS ARE REAL.
AND SO WE OUGHT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR BODIES. AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DISEASES THAT ARE 100% PREVENTABLE. WHEN ONE EXERCISES EXERCISE REDUCES RISK OF HEART DISEASE. HELPS MANAGE YOUR WEIGHT, LOWERS THE RISK OF TYPE TWO DIABETES.
REDUCES RISK OF CERTAIN CANCERS. IMPROVES MENTAL HEALTH.
STRENGTHENS BONES AND MUSCLES. REDUCES RISK OF STROKE.
IMPROVES SLEEP, BOOSTS IMMUNE SYSTEM, INCREASES LONGEVITY, AND SO FORTH, AND SO SHORT OF THE SHORT OF THE NEED FOR MORE PROGRAMING. ON THE EAST SIDE OF TAMARAC.
BUT PARTICULARLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN, AS ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS SAID THIS EVENING THAT HE HOPES THAT WE WOULD BRING A LOT MORE, PROGRAMS TO THE EAST SIDE OF TAMARAC.
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ON. SOME RESIDENTS WERE WALKING AROUND THE PARK AND THEY ACTUALLY STOPPED.OH MY GOD, THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. SOME OF THEM JOINED IN.
SOME OF THEM SAID, LISTEN, I WANT TO KNOW WHEN IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN.
THEY WERE EAGER TO GIVE THEIR PHONE NUMBERS AND SO FORTH.
SO THIS IS REALLY A NEED A NEED ACTUALLY, IN DISTRICT ONE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF THE NEED IN DISTRICT ONE, IT IT IT PRESENTS SUCH GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOR OUR RESIDENTS. REALLY AND TRULY. ALSO, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT EXERCISING.
WE AIM TO PARTNER WITH HCA HOSPITAL. WE PARTNERED WITH THEM ON EVENTS BEFORE THEY WERE A CO-SPONSOR ON FIT ZONE. THIS PAST OPPORTUNITY, WE DID AN EVENT WITH THEM AT THE MAINLAND'S CLUBHOUSE, AND PEOPLE CAME TO TAKE THEIR BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS AND DIFFERENT CHECKS. AND IT BROUGHT ME BACK TO THE EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN THE CARIBBEAN, WHERE YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY CLINIC THAT IS FREE WHERE YOU CAN GO AND GET CHECKED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU FEEL SOMETHING IS WRONG OR JUST GET CHECKED JUST BECAUSE.
RIGHT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALSO MENTAL HEALTH IS REAL.
AND SO AFTER THESE EXERCISE CLASSES, YOU KNOW WE ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST SIT DOWN, BREATHE AND TALK TO A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO ADOPT THIS AS AN EXPRESSION TONIGHT ESTABLISHING THIS AS A PROGRAM THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO ALSO DO IN THEIR DISTRICTS ESTABLISH THIS AS A PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR ALL OF US TO SHARE THE JOY IN LET US, YOU KNOW, BE EXCLUSIVE WITH THIS.
LET US BE INCLUSIVE WITH THIS, AND I'D APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
SEEING. NO COMMENTS. CALL THE ROLL. MAYOR GOMEZ.
NO. COMMISSIONER. BOLTON. YES, COMMISSIONER. RYE.
YES, COMMISSIONER. PATTERSON. YES. VICE MAYOR.
DANIEL. YOU? YES. MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE ARE NOW BACK TO ITEM TEN A. AND WE'LL JUST MOVE IT AROUND ALONG JUST THE WAY WE DID THE OTHERS.
[10.a Discussion and Consensus on Renaming Either the Private Driveway Leading into Kings Point or NW 80" Street to “Kings Point Way” Requested by Commissioner Krystal Patterson ]
WE'LL TALK ABOUT MOTION ON RENAMING EITHER PRIVATE DRIVEWAY LEADING TO KING'S POINT OR NORTHWEST 80TH STREET TO KING'S POINT WAY, PROVIDING FOR FLEXIBILITY, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.AND THIS IS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. SO, COMMISSIONER PATTERSON, PLEASE PROCEED. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. AS MY COLLEAGUES MIGHT REMEMBER, ON JANUARY 8TH, I PROPOSED DOING A STREET RENAMING IN DISTRICT THREE IN HONOR OF THE KINGS POINT COMMUNITY CELEBRATING THE LEGACIES OF ALL OF THOSE 9000 PLUS RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND AT THAT TIME, I HAD PROPOSED RENAMING 77TH STREET AS KINGS POINT WAY.
AND SO ON THE STAFF AND I TOOK SOME TIME TO LOOK AT SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO INCLUDE 80TH STREET AND THE PRIVATE DRIVEWAY AT THE KINGS POINT, MAIN ENTRY POINT AND MAIN ENTRY POINT.
SINCE THAT TIME, IT HAS IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE HAS BEEN A COMPETING INTEREST AT THAT KINGS POINT DRIVEWAY. AND SO WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TODAY FOR MY COLLEAGUES CONSIDERATION IS THE 80TH STREET THE 80TH STREET INTERSECTION AT NOB HILL. SO 88TH STREET SPECIFICALLY.
AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT YOU ALL CONSIDER DULY NAMING 80TH STREET, SO IT WOULD BE NORTHWEST 80TH STREET SLASH KINGS POINT WAY. AND SO THAT WOULD ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT WOULD THAT HAD ARISEN PREVIOUSLY WITH REGARD TO ANY ADDRESSES THAT MIGHT HAVE NEEDED TO HAVE BEEN CHANGED. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO A DUAL NAME.
WE DID GET THIS REVIEWED BY THE, BY BROWARD COUNTY.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE WELL WITHIN OUR RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.
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KING'S POINT. EXCUSE ME. 80TH STREET IS HOME TO AT LEAST 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT KING'S POINT COMMUNITIES.AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE THE BEST LOCATION TO DO IT.
AND I WOULD LOVE MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SO MOVED. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I HAVE A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR DANIEL. COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS YOUR ITEM? YOUR LIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ITEM AGAINST COMMISSIONER PATTERSON.
ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, YOU HAVE CATALINA.
IT'S NOT KING'S POINT, AND YOU HAVE EXETER KING'S POINT.
ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET YOU HAVE LOMBARDI, KING'S POINT AND WESTWOOD, NOT KING'S POINT.
I UNDERSTAND THE DUAL NAMING, BUT AS I HAVE EXPRESSED, I PERSONALLY DO NOT FEEL THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DO ONE OF THE THINGS I REGRET, AND I DON'T USUALLY USE THAT WORD WHEN WE CHANGE THE POLICY.
AND I GUESS WE WROTE THAT PART OUT. AND BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACTUAL GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ON THOSE STREETS, I HAVE DIFFICULTY EVEN MORE SO. THIS IS NOT PERSONAL, DESPITE I KNOW THAT IT WILL BE TAKEN AS SUCH.
BUT I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT IT SEEING THAT THERE WILL BE NO OTHER COMMENTS.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAYOR. GOMEZ.
NO. COMMISSIONER. BOLTON. YES. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
NO. COMMISSIONER PATTERSON. YES. VICE MAYOR. DANIEL.
YES. MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2. MADAM CLERK, WE WILL HAVE TO CONVERT THIS TO A RESOLUTION.
WE RENAMING EIGHTH STREET TO KINGS POINT WAY.
ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE COUNTY APPROVAL.
OKAY. AND THAT WOULD GO ON CONSENT AGENDA. WE CAN CONVERT THAT WITHOUT COMING BACK.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS MEETING IS NOW 1:00 AM.
EVERYONE GO HOME. BE SAFE. GOOD NIGHT. SO MOVED.
YOU. NICE SHOT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.