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          GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. MORNING. IT IS 930 ON MONDAY SEPTEMBER 9TH. THANK YOU VERY 
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MUCH FOR BEING HERE I AM. THAT'S RIVER SHE DID BASEBALL COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS NOT PRESENT COMMISSIONER GUILLEN IS NOT PRESENT COMMISSIONER FISHMAN HERE THE VICE MAYOR FLACCO GOOD MORNING THEY ARE GOMES GOOD MORNING. I'M GOING TO ASK US TO ALL STAND THE VICE MAYOR WILL LEAD US AND ALSO AFTERWARDS IF WE HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE BAHAMAS PLEASE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. TO RECOVER. RECOVER. STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          PLEASE BE SEATED. SO I HOPE EVERYBODY ENJOY THEIR WEEKEND. WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA BEFORE US TODAY. WE HAVE 2 0 1 3 3 3 1. THE IOA WITH BARAK COUNTY PROPERTY 
          [1. TR13331 - ILA with Broward County Property Acquisition and Exchange]
ACQUISITION AND EXCHANGE. OUR CITY MANAGER MICHAEL SERVES OUR CITY ATTORNEY SAM AS GAUGHAN AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE FANS OF JOHNSON AND ASHTON AND RENE HARROD TO JOIN US. MADAM MAYOR MY LAW PARTNER DAVID TULSA'S ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY ALSO SAID THAT WITH THREE COLLEAGUES FROM THE COUNTY WITH REGARD TO THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY STARTING THIS OR THE PRESENTATION IS COMING FAST FROM THE COUNTY. I THINK WE'LL START THE CONVERSATION THIS MORNING MADAM MAYOR. JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK AND REFRESH EVERYBODY'S MEMORIES. WELCOME TO OUR FRIENDS FROM THE COUNTY THIS MORNING I'M BETTER I'M ALWAYS TOLD I HAVE TO GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR. SO WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING. CONSIDERING THIS I L.A. MADAM MAYOR. AND TO JUST KIND OF REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORIES TAMARACK WAS ONE OF THE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS THAT NEEDED A RADIO TOWER IN ORDER FOR THE COUNTY TO STAND UP THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM THAT WILL SERVE ALL OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES IN BROWARD COUNTY ULTIMATELY. AND WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS YOU WILL RECALL US GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF SELECTING A SITE FOR THE RADIO TOWER MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS GETTING ALL OF THAT APPROVED AND ULTIMATELY IF YOU LOOK OUT THE BACK WINDOW YOU'LL SEE THE COUNTY'S RADIO TOWER READY READY TO GO AS A PART OF THAT. WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO THE COUNTY THAT WE WOULD BE A PART OF THEIR SYSTEM AND THAT WE WOULD COOPERATE AND THAT WE WOULD HELP THEM COORDINATE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS SYSTEM AND EVEN THOUGH OUR PIECE WAS JUST ONE PIECE OF MANY WE SAID THAT WE WERE COMMITTED TO THAT PARTNERSHIP NOT ONLY WITH BROWARD COUNTY BUT WITH THE OTHER CITIES IN BROWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO MEET ITS GOAL OF GETTING THIS RADIO SYSTEM STOOD UP ON TIME AS THEY HAD COMMITTED TO DO AND NOT TO HAVE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM THAT WE'VE SEEN DUE TO TRAGIC EVENTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. AND SO YOU ULTIMATELY DID YOUR PART AS THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION YOU APPROVED THE TOWER SITE. WE WERE ASSISTED IN THE PERMITTING WE GOT THE TOWER UP THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO CONSTRUCT IT QUICKLY IT'S THERE IT'S READY TO GO BE BECAUSE OF OUR COOPERATION AND BECAUSE OF OUR ASSISTING IN COORDINATING ALL OF THAT THE COUNTY CAME BACK TO US HERE IN THE LAST I'LL SAY 30 DAYS TO INQUIRE IF WE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN A LAND SWAP THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COUNTY TO PURCHASE LAND IN THE CITY OF DAVIE TO TRANSFER THAT LAND TO THE CITY OF TAMARACK AND THEN THE CITY OF TAMARACK AND THE COUNTY SWAMP PROPERTY FOR PROPERTY IN WESTLAKE PARK IN HOLLYWOOD WHERE THE COUNTY'S RADIO TOWER IN 
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HOLLYWOOD WOULD WOULD GO. THIS IS A PRESCRIBED PROCESS THROUGH THE COUNTY'S CODE AND THE COUNTY CHARTER AND WE AGREED TO PARTICIPATE IN IT IN ORDER TO HELP WITH THE COORDINATION OF THIS NEW SYSTEM. I THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR ME I'LL ASK SAM IF HE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY BEFORE WE ALLOW THE COUNTY TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE SOME MORE DETAIL AS FAR AS ALL. THANK YOU MR. MANAGER MR. MAYOR. MADAM COMMISSIONERS THANK YOU FOR THAT BRIEF OPPORTUNITY THIS MORNING. LESS THAN A MONTH AGO WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT CERTAIN DOCUMENTS THAT ARE NOW BEFORE YOU IN THE CONTEXT OF A LOCAL AGREEMENT AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROPOSED DOCUMENT WHICH WOULD IN FACT EFFECTIVELY MEMORIALIZE WHAT WE DID YOU HAD A MEMORANDUM WHICH YOU'VE GOTTEN A COPY OF AS OF THIS PAST WEEK WHICH DESCRIBES IN SOME DETAIL THE METHOD BY WHICH THIS TRANSACTION WOULD ACTUALLY OCCUR. IT IS A NO COST OPTION FOR THE CITY OF TAMARACK. IT IS OFFERING A BROWARD COUNTY WITH REGARD TO GOVERNMENT COORDINATION AND COOPERATION. TO THAT EXTENT IT PROVIDES FOR THE CITY TO ESSENTIALLY WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNTY AND THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY IN DAVIE WHICH IS THE EXCHANGE PROPERTY AT NO COST TO THE CITY AS WELL AS THE ULTIMATE LEASING OF THE PROPERTY IN WEST LAKE WHICH IS THE SITE UNDER WHICH AND ON WHICH THE 9/11 TERROR WOULD BE LOCATED WITH THE LEASE RATE THAT'S PROVIDED FOR IN THE MEMORANDUM AS WELL AS THE FEDS ARE TAKING THE FIGHT OUT OF MR. JEFFERSON SPACE STATION. I'LL DEFER THROUGH THE MATTER TO HIM AND TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE CAN BRIEF YOU ON THE LOGISTICS OF HOW THIS MATTER EVOLVES BUT THAT TAMARACK WAS IN FACT INQUIRED OF LESS THAN 30 DAYS AGO TO LOOK AT THE OPTION IT HAS BEEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENTAL STAGE OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF DAYS AND STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY AND FOR THE AGENDA ON WEDNESDAY IS AGAIN A LOCAL AGREEMENT WHICH SETS FORTH THE GENERAL TONE CONTACT CONTENT AND THE PROVISIONS OF THE DOCUMENT THAT WOULD IMPLEMENT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PARTIES AND WOULD ENABLE THE COUNTY TO IN FACT PUT UP AT ITS LAST TOWER. I HAVE AN ANSWER QUESTIONS DAVID AND HAS BEEN WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY STAFF AND GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE COULD BE TODAY. BEFORE YOU THAT DID NOT HAPPEN UNTIL A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THAT SAID I'D BE HAPPY TO DEFER AND ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AS THE MATTER PROCEEDS. OKAY. OKAY. MAYOR TONY AND TONY ON THE. 
          ONCE AGAIN I'M HERE FROM THE COUNTY ON MY PHONE SO JEFFERSON GOT MIKA HERE AS WELL. 
          AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR COOPERATION AND PARTNERSHIP. I KNOW THAT WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE AND SAT IN THE SAME ROOM AND WE TALKED ABOUT A TOWER BEING IN TAMARACK AND WE WENT OVER AND OVER VARIOUS DIFFERENT TIMES I KNOW I SPENT PLENTY OF TIME HERE AND OWNS ALL MEDIA THE COMMISSION IS TALKING ABOUT OUR TOWER AND THIS PARTICULAR SITE. AND I CAN TELL YOU TODAY THAT ASSESSMENT WE'RE ALMOST THERE WE'RE ALMOST READY FOR THIS SYSTEM TO GO. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE TOWER SITES TO BUILD OUT AND TO GET OPERATIONAL. YOU SEE HOW QUICKLY WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT HERE IN TAMARACK AND NORMALLY STATES AS WELL ONCE WE GET OUR MEETING DONE ABOUT 120 DAYS TO GET A TOWER SITE UP AND READY TO GO. FROM THAT STANDPOINT THIS IS OUR LAST SITE THAT WE'RE WE'RE FINALIZING EQUIPMENT ASKING THE WATER SHELTERS ALL THE STEEL HAS BEEN ORDERED FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. WE'VE AS YOU MAY HAVE BEEN AWARE EARLY IN THE PAPER OR ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE HAS BEEN THE INDEPENDENT EXPERT THAT AT TWO PARTICULAR SITES WITHIN THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD. ONE WAS AT THE CERTAIN LOCATION AND ONE WITH WESTLAKE PARK WHICH IS A COUNTY OWNED PARK IN ASPEN. WE HAD A BINDING AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ALL THE WORK TO SAY WHAT IS THE BEST SITE IN THAT AREA. AND THEN AN EXPERT CAME BACK AND SAID IT WAS WESTLAKE PARK AND SO TODAY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND SUBMITTING ALL OUR NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION TO GET MANY ON WESLEY PARK. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER SITE WITHIN THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD WHICH IS CALLED WEST HOLLYWOOD SITE THAT IS GOING THROUGH CRIME ANY DAY AS WELL. THESE ARE REALLY THE LAST TWO SITES THAT WE NEED TO GET FINISH SO THAT WE CAN GET THE SYSTEM. UP AND RUNNING ALL OTHER SITES ARE MOVING FORWARD AS WE HAVE PLANNED BUT THESE ARE THE LAST TWO SITES THEY REALLY NEED TO GET COMPLETED SO THAT WE CAN OPTIMIZE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ON A NEW SYSTEM FOR THE PUBLIC FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS. AND AS I SAID IN THE PAST BEFORE THIS SYSTEM IS ONLY DEDICATED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY USERS ALL ON NON-EMERGENCY RELATED SERVICES ARE BEING REMOVED OFF OR HAVE ALREADY BEEN REMOVED OFF OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM. WE CREATED A LOCAL GOVERNMENT RADIO SYSTEM AS YOU MAY HAVE READ IN THE PAPER THE SCHOOL BUSES USED TO BE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM. THEY 
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ARE NOW ON A LOCAL GOVERNMENT RADIO SYSTEM THAT'S OFTEN TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY USERS. SO AGAIN THIS IS JUST OUR LAST SITE THAT WE NEED TO FINALIZE THIS TRANSACTION IS PART OF. OUR. PROCESS TO FINALIZE THIS ITEM. NOW I THINK A WEEK OR MORE INTO THE LEGAL ASPECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRANSACTION. GOOD MORNING MAYOR COMMISSIONERS AND MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. AND THANKS FOR WORKING WITH US AS MR. JEFFERSON SAID FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ON GETTING THE TAMARACK SITE ON OUR FINAL SITE COMPLETED. FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE REALLY THIS IS THE LAST SITE AND REALLY ONE OF THE LAST ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS BECAUSE OF OUR CHARTER. THE COUNTY CHARTER THE COUNTY CHARTER HAS DESIGNATED CERTAIN SITES AS REGIONAL PARKS AND SO THEY ONLY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE LIMITATIONS. AND SO THERE SOME CASE LAW THAT MAY INDICATE THAT THIS USE MAY NOT BE PERMITTED AND SO WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH OUR CHARTER FULLY. THE CHARTER HAS A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS US TO SWAP THE PROPERTY IN THE PARK WITH THE MUNICIPALITY AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN USE A PARK SITE FOR THIS TYPE OF PURPOSE. SO WE WOULD BE SWAPPING THOUGH WHAT'S A PARK SITE FOR THIS NEWS PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY HAD PLANNED ON PURCHASING IN ORDER FOR THE WESTLAKE PARK SITE TO BE USED FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY TOWER. SO THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHY WE'VE COME TO THE CITY OF TAMARACK TO HELP US IT ALLOWS US TO DO THIS WITH ANY MUNICIPALITY FOR ANY LIKE FOR LIKE ACRE OF LAND. AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO PARTICIPATE WITH US AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF THE ENTIRE LOCAL AGREEMENT AND THE CHARTER PROVISIONS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM BUT I THINK THAT YOUR CITY ATTORNEY AND YOUR CITY MANAGER HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN EXPLAINING TO YOU THE PROCESS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU KNOW JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I MAY QUICKLY GET THE MEMO THAT WE PREPARED WAS INTENDED TO BE A NOT JUST A THUMBNAIL SKETCH BUT AN ACTUAL DESCRIPTION FROM FROM ADP EXACTLY HOW THIS TRANSACTION WOULD WORK. IT HAS MULTIPLE PARTS. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. IT MAY SEEM SOMEWHAT CONFUSING BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE CHARTER CONTEMPLATED THIS TYPE OF KIND OF EXCHANGES AS AN UNCONVENTIONAL RECORD. WE ARE THE EXCHANGE PARTNER. THE COUNTY IS ACQUIRING A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN DERBY. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY BY ASSIGNMENT IN EXCHANGE THAT PROPERTY FOR PROPERTY IN HOLLYWOOD. 
          THERE'S NOTHING INCONSISTENT WITH THE CONSTITUTION OR FLORIDA LAWS OR OUR CHARTER OR CODE THAT WOULD PERMIT THE CITY TO OWN PROPERTY OUTSIDE ITS BOUNDARIES. 
          THERE'S A SPECIFIC PUBLIC AND MUNICIPAL PURPOSE INVOLVED IN THIS TRANSACTION THAT IS CONTEMPLATED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE 911 SYSTEM. I'M JUST A LAWYER IN THIS DISCUSSION BUT THESE ARE THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN DERIVED THROUGH DISCUSSIONS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS AND THE ACTUAL FINAL VERSIONS OF WHICH WERE NOT ACTUALLY FINALIZED TILL THIS PAST WEEK IN WHICH WE CHOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DISCUSSION OF THE ITEM WHICH WAS DISCUSSED IN A PUBLIC FORUM WITH ALL THE PARTIES BEING PRESIDENT CLINTON THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WOULD HEAR IT AT THE SAME TIME TO THAT EXTENT HAD BEEN ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THE DOCUMENT ITSELF AND HOW IT WORKS. BUT IT IS A NO COST OPTION TO THE CITY. I MUST EMPHASIZE THAT THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY AND DATA THAT'S BEING ASSIGNED TO THE CITY IS BEING FUNDED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION IN THE LEASE PAYMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATED BY THE CITY'S OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY IN WESTLAKE AND HOLLYWOOD ALSO PAID BY ANOTHER COUNTY COMMISSION INTO THE LEASE THAT'S BEEN CONTEMPLATED BY THE PARTIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE THAN AMENDMENT RUSSIAN PRESIDENT THANK YOU. HAVE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. IF IT'S OKAY. WHERE'S THE COUNTY. WHAT THE PARKLAND SITE I SHOULD GO LOOK AT THE PARKLAND SITE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME STATUS AS HERE IN TAMARACK IS COMPLETED. WE JUST HAVE TO OPTIMIZE THE PARTICULAR SITE WE HAVE TO DEMOLISH A BUILDING ON THE SITE BUT THAT DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM OPTIMIZING THE SITE ITSELF. IF YOU GO OUT THERE YOU'LL SEE A TOWER THAT'S UP YOU'LL SHIELD SHELTER THAT'S UP YOU'LL SEE EQUIPMENT THAT'S IN THERE. SO WE'RE JUST OPTIMIZATION THAT WE HAVE TO GET DOWN WITH THE CITY OF PARKLAND LOCATION. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER CITY THAT OWNS COUNTY LAND IN ANOTHER CITY. I CAN GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC NAME BUT THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT WE'VE DONE SQUAT BEFORE. I CAN BE MORE THAN GLAD TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR US. WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND HAS THE CITY OF TAMARACK EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE OF THESE LAND SWAPS. I CANNOT WORK I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SEVEN YEARS I CANNOT REMEMBER. SO THERE COULD HAVE BEEN SOME TRANSACTION THAT'S OCCURRED 
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BEFORE MY TIME BUT I'M NOT AWARE. I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS ANY OTHER CITY OFFERED THIS DEAL. AND WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER CITIES REGARDING LAND SWAPS. YES WE HAVE. NO I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC TO THIS. YEAH. WE HAVE WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER CITIES IN WHICH OTHER CITIES ON SYRIA AND A BEACH IN THE CITY HOW MANY OF EACH AND WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR RESPONSE ACTUALLY WAS BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE DEFINITELY INTERESTED AND AT A POINT IN TIME THEY REALIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF THE NUMBER ONE SYSTEM IN THE RADIO TOWERS BEING PLACED UP IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION BECAUSE THAT RADIO TOWER ACTUALLY BENEFITS BOTH OF THOSE CITIES. UM WAS THERE ANY TYPE OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPOT. I'M SORRY REPEAT THE QUESTION WAS THERE A COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS FOR THIS SWAP. I DON'T THINK THIS PARTICULAR ITEM REQUIRES SOME COMPETITIVE BIDDING HOW FAR FROM THE HOLLYWOOD PUBLIC WORKS WITH THIS TOWER BE WE SAY HOLLYWOOD WORKS THERE'S A WATER WASTEWATER PLANT. RIGHT. SO OUR TOWER IS A GOLF COURSE IN A WATER WASTEWATER SITE. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EACH IT'S LESS THAN A FOOTBALL FIELD SO IT'LL BE LESS THAN THE SIZE OF THE TOWER. YES IT'S CLEARLY RIGHT ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER. AND HOW FAR FROM SHARED CHEMISTRY WITH THE TOWERS LOCATION B SURE IS. WELL OFF TO CERTAIN STREET LOCATION. SURGERY IS THE MAIN ROAD SO YOU HAVE TO GO INTO LATE WESLEY. APART FROM THAT PARTICULAR ROAD SOURCE IS FURTHER BACK INSIDE THE PARK ITSELF. IT'S DEEP INSIDE THE PARK ITSELF. I COULDN'T GIVE YOU THE DISTANCE FROM THE ROADWAY. IT IS BUT IS WHEN YOU GO OFF THE SHERIDAN IS AS WELL BACKED BY THE GOLF COURSE AREA BY THE WATER WASTEWATER PLANT AREA SO THAT'S QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE ROADWAY. WERE THERE ANY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY WAS DONE ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE. THIS ENTIRE SITE WAS REVIEWED ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT FROM ALL ASPECTS OF THE SITE TO BE LOCATED. SO WE WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE PARTICULAR STEPS TO DETERMINE THAT THIS WAS A GOOD SITE FOR THE RADIO TOWER BUT ABOUT IMPACT TO ENDANGERED OUR THREATENED SPECIES. THIS IS ACTUALLY A LESS INTRUSIVE AREA. AS YOU KNOW LESLIE PARK OR THE NATURE PRESERVE IS A PRETTY LARGE AREA THAT ACTUALLY CROSSES OVER SHERATON. YOU KNOW THE COLD NATURE PRESERVE IS CONSIDERED PART OF WESTLAKE PLANT. SO THIS IS A LESS INTRUSIVE AREA WITHIN THE PARK ITSELF ACTUALLY. WHEN WE REVIEW THE PARTICULAR AREA THIS AREA WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE OF IT DOES NOT HAVE THOSE IMPACTS THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY MENTIONING IN SECTION TWO POINT THREE POINT ONE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE AUTO REMOVALS WOULD WORK ABOUT THE LEASE. YES SORRY. I KNOW I'M JUMPING RESPECTIVELY FOR SO WORKING ON THE ACTUAL TERMS FOR THE LEASE. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A WE HAVE THE MAJOR TERMS LAID OUT. SO IT'S 50 YEARS WITH TENURE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF NOTICE THE CITY WOULD REQUIRE. SO IF YOU WOULD WANT A 30 DAY NOTICE OR A ONE YEAR NOTICE IN ORDER TO SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RENEWING BUT OTHERWISE IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY RENEW. SO AFTER 50 YEARS IT WOULD RENEW FOR 10 YEARS. YES. OK. WHAT ABOUT THEIR TENURE AUTOMATE CONTINUALLY. 
          AND YOU'RE RIGHT. AND. IN TWO POINT THREE POINT FOUR IT SAYS IF THE LEASE EXPIRES IT REQUIRES THE CITY TO GRANT BACK THE LAND TO THE COUNTY CORRECT. YES THAT'S CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE IF THE IF THE IF WE BUY OUT THE LEASE. SO IF WE BUY THE PROPERTY THEN THE LEASE EXPIRES BECAUSE IT'S HOW THAT READS THE LEASE DOESN'T 
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EXPIRE UNLESS WE TERMINATE. SO THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL. SO IT'S A 50 YEAR TERM 10 YEAR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS AFTER THAT AND THEN WE CAN TERMINATE BEFORE I MEAN THERE'S A.. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO AN OPTION FOR THE CITY FOR THE COUNTY TO BUY OUT THE PROPERTY AFTER FIVE YEARS. AND SO WHEN WE BUY THAT OUT THEN THE LEASE EXPIRES IT'LL MERGE AS A MATTER OF LAW. BUT WE JUST ALSO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THEN THERE'S NO CONTINUING LEASE OBLIGATIONS AFTER THAT FIVE YEAR POINT. SO WE COULD GO INTO THIS AGREEMENT AND FIVE YEARS FROM THE DATE WE GO INTO THE AGREEMENT THE COUNTY DECIDES TO TAKE THE LAND BACK THE CITY WOULD HAVE NO RECOURSE BUT TO GIVE THE LAND BACK. THAT'S CORRECT. COULD YOU EXPLAIN UH THE TERMS AND THREE POINT TWO PLEASE. THAT'S JUST A TERM YOU KNOW KIND OF A STANDARD TERMINATION CLAUSE ESSENTIALLY THAT THE YOU KNOW THE COUNTY DOES NEED THIS SYSTEM FOR OUR EMERGENCY FOR EMERGENCY RADIO SYSTEM. AND SO IT'S JUST TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE LEASE DOES NOT TERMINATE RIGHT SO WE HAVE A CONTINUING OBLIGATION TO PAY THE CITY FOR THEIR PROPERTY AND THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE US ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND TO FULLY LEASE IT. AND IF THERE IS A BREACH BY EITHER PARTY THAT THE YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS NOT A DAMAGES PAYMENT FOR THE BREACH OF THE LEASE. FOR INSTANCE THAT THE CITY OF TAMARA COULD BAR THE COUNTY FROM ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND THEN YOU PAY US SOME KIND OF MONETARY DAMAGES. WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A RECOGNITION OF THE FACT THAT WHAT WE NEED HERE IS THE PUBLIC RADIO TOWER IN THAT SITE. AND SO THE GOAL IS THAT ANY ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THAT TAKES PLACE AS A RESULT OF ANY BREACH THAT MAY HAPPEN IS THE SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE BY BOTH PARTIES OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THESE WHAT ABOUT THE TERMS AND THREE POINT EIGHT. 
          DAVID THOMAS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY THAT'S YOUR STANDARD LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO VENUE IN BROWARD COUNTY AND IN THE VENUE IN BROWARD COUNTY AND THAT THE PARTIES AGREE TO WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO ANY KIND OF JURY TRIAL WHICH IS STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY AND WHAT ABOUT THREE POINT ONE TO SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY CLAUSE. THERE IS NO WAIVER OF THE CITY OR THE COUNTY'S RIGHT TO CLAIM SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY IN THE EVENT OF ANY CLAIMS OR ANY KINDS OF DAMAGES UNDER THIS AGREEMENT. COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY IS WHY WE NEED THAT PROTECTION AS THE SOVEREIGN OF THE CITY OR THE COUNTY. TYPICALLY YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW HISTORICALLY YOU CAN'T SUE THE KING. THAT'S WHERE THE SOVEREIGN WHERE IT CAME FROM. SO IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA CITIES IN THE COUNTY ARE ENTITLED TO SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY BUT FOR ANY EXCEPTION PROVIDED FOR IN STATE LAW AND STATE LAW SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES FOR THE ABILITY TO SUE A CITY OR COUNTY FOR NEGLIGENCE FOR DAMAGES RESULTING FROM THAT NEGLIGENCE BY LIMITING THOSE DAMAGES TO NO MORE THAN THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PERSON. BUT IN THIS INSTANCE IN THE AGREEMENT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY STATING THAT NEITHER PARTY IS WAIVING THE RIGHT TO SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY. THE COURTS HAVE STATED THAT YOU NEED TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE IN AN AGREEMENT IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE PARTIES UNDERSTAND THAT NOBODY IS WAIVING NOBODY BEING THE CITY OR THE COUNTY WAIVING THEIR RIGHT TO A SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY IN THE EVENT AND ANY THIRD PARTY WERE TO BRING ANY TYPE OF CLAIM AGAINST EITHER PARTY. AND IF A THIRD PARTY WERE TO BRING A CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY BECAUSE WE OWN THAT PROPERTY AND THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT'S THEIR TOWER WE WOULD BE PROTECTED BY THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY WE WOULD ENSURE THAT AS PART OF ANY LEASE AGREEMENT THAT IS ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE PARTIES THAT THERE IS SPECIFIC PROTECTIONS FOR THE CITY AS WE WOULD ASSENT AS A CITY WOULD ESSENTIALLY JUST BE A PLACEHOLDER TO ALLOW THE COUNTY TO OPERATE ITS TAIL ON THAT PROPERTY AND THAT WOULD PROTECT THE CITY IN THE EVENT THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF INJURY A CLAIM MADE AS A RESULT OF ANY ACTIVITY ON THAT PROPERTY THAT THE CITY COULD GO TO THE COUNTY AS A COUNTY. YOU'RE THE LAST I SEE THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY IS YOUR 
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RESPONSIBILITY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO YOU TO DEFEND AND PAY ANY DAMAGES AS IT WAS AS A RESULT OF ANY CLAIM MADE. AND GOING BACK TO TWO POINT THREE POINT ONE IT STATES THAT WE HAVE THE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS UPON THE TERMINATION OF THE LEASE THE PARTIES AGREED TO ENTER A SUBSEQUENT LEASE WITH THE SAME TERMS. SO THAT SECTION THERE. 
          DOESN'T THAT NOT BIND FUTURE COMMISSIONS FROM BEING ABLE TO DETERMINE THEIR OWN COURSE AND IN NEGOTIATIONS. NO BECAUSE ANY RENEWAL IS GOING TO REQUIRE THE EXECUTION OF A SUBSEQUENT DOCUMENT TO RENEW THE LEASE AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IS PART OF ANY LEASE AGREEMENT THAT ANY RENEWAL IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION BY THE CITY WHETHER THAT IS EXECUTION BY THE CITY MANAGER APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION SO THAT ANY RENEWALS BEYOND AN INITIAL 50 YEARS IS AFFIRMATIVELY ACTED ON BY THE CITY OF THEMSELVES IF THERE IS A TERMINATION OF THE LEASE. THAT THE PARTIES AGREE TO ENTER INTO A SUBSEQUENT LEASE ON THE SAME TERMS STATED IN SECTION TWO POINT THREE INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE SAME FINANCIAL AND DURATION TERMS. SO ARE WE NOT TAKING AWAY ANY FUTURE COMMISSION'S RIGHT TO NEGOTIATE I WOULD SAY THAT UNDER THIS INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT IT'S CONTEMPLATED THAT THE PARTIES ARE GOING TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT AND SO THAT LEASE AGREEMENT IS GOING TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE TERMS AND CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH A LEASE IS TERMINATED UNDER WHICH OF A SUBSEQUENT LEASE MAY HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND RENEWED. SO NOTWITHSTANDING THE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN HERE I THINK IT'S CONTEMPLATED BY THE PARTIES AT THE SUBSEQUENT LEASE AGREEMENT WILL PROVIDE FOR THOSE NECESSARY TERMS THAT WILL NOT NECESSARILY BIND FUTURE CITY COMMISSION BY ANY ACTION THAT YOU TAKE AS A COMMISSION HERE TODAY. OR WEDNESDAY OR WEDNESDAY. 
          YES. THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH RESPECT TO THIS LANGUAGE HERE BUT THE LEASE WOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC. I MAY PROVIDE TERMS AND CONDITIONS WHICH WILL PROVIDE THE ASSURANCE THAT THE CITY WILL NEED TO TAKE THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE ANY WHETHER THE LEASE IS TERMINATED AND THE NEW TENDERS NEW MOVIES OR THE LEASE AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THERE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE THOSE TERMS AND DOES THAT LEASE COME BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL. I THINK IT'S CONTEMPLATED IN THE RESOLUTION THAT'S ATTACHED THAT THE LEASE IF IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE TERMS IN THE CENTRAL LOCAL AGREEMENT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE EXECUTED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY MANAGER WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ACTION BY THE CITY COMMISSION SO IF ON WEDNESDAY WE AGREED TO THIS I'LL LAY WE THEN ASSUME OR PRESUME THAT THE TERMS ARE IN THE AGREEMENT AND DON'T SAY IT AGAIN. THAT'S HOW THE RESOLUTIONS KIND OF DRAFT THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO COMMISSIONER FISHMAN ASKED A QUESTION SIMILAR TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE LAND SWAP CURRENTLY OR OTHER ISSUES. I GUESS YOU MENTIONED THERE ARE SOME THAT YOU HAVE SOME AGREEMENTS WITH ALREADY. YOU SEE OTHER ISSUES WE HAVE DONE LAND SWAPS BEFORE IN THE PAST REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM. THERE IS NO OTHER LAND SWAPS. IS THERE A LAND SWAP NOW FOR ANOTHER ISSUE OR ANOTHER ITEM. SO IS THERE AN EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER CITY FOR ANOTHER ISSUE WHERE YOU OWN IT IN THE CITY AND SWAP IT OUT WITH ANOTHER SETTLEMENT. WE HAVE DONE LAND SWAPS BEFORE IN THE PAST WITH OTHER STATES AND THERE ARE ACTIVE CONTRACTS NOW. I'M NOT SURE IF THEIR CONTRACTS. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WOULD GET US SOME INFORMATION BACK REGARDING JULIE'S QUESTION. WELL WE HAVE THAT BEFORE WEDNESDAY BEFORE. LAND SWAPS AND I HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT THOSE LAND SWAPS WERE AND I WILL GET THOSE. ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT THE LIST OF CITIES AS WELL. IF I MAY CLARIFY I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT CITIES CURRENTLY SWAP LAND WITH THE COUNTY PARKS SYSTEM IN OTHER CITIES AND JUST WITH RESPECT TO CONTINUING 
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AGREEMENTS. SO WE HAVE DONE LAND SWAPS BEFORE BUT IN THE MOST IN ALL THE CASES THAT WE'VE DONE THEM BEFORE THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY JUST STRAIGHT SWAPS SO YOU ARE JUST PAYING A PURCHASE PRICE FOR THE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO HERE WHERE ESSENTIALLY THE SWAP HAPPENS AT NO COST WHEN THERE IS A LEASE PAYMENT AND PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IF THE CITY IS THE COUNTY ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE OF HOW OUR CHARTER PROVISION WITH RESPECT TO WESTLAKE SPECIFICALLY IS WRITTEN IF WE OWN THE PROPERTY IN WESTLAKE PARK THEN IT BECOMES AGAIN SUBJECT TO THE PARK CHARTER PROVISION. SO UNLIKE A STANDARD SWAP WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THE PARK WHERE IT IS IN THE OTHER CASES WE'VE JUST DONE A STRAIGHT SWAP FOR THE PROPERTY WITHOUT US HAVING TO HAVE A CONTINUED ANY CONTINUING OBLIGATION DOES THE TOWN OF DERBY OBJECT TO THIS. NO THE TOWN OF DAVID DOES NOT OBJECT TO THIS. ARE THERE SOME OTHER STATE STATUTES THAT PROHIBIT A CITY FROM OWNING PROPERTY IN ANOTHER CITY. 
          THERE WAS A BILL LAST YEAR. THE ANSWER WAS NO. THE ANSWER IS IF THE BILL FILED THIS PAST YEAR AND IN PRIOR YEARS. I DON'T KNOW WHO THE SPONSOR WAS AT THE TIME MY HEAD WHICH WOULD NOT THAT IT WOULD PRECLUDE OWNERSHIP OF LAND BY A CITY IN ANOTHER CITY WOULD REQUIRE SOME NOTICE TO THE CITY IN WHICH THE PROPERTY WOULD BE OWNED. BUT THERE IS THAT OWNERSHIP OCCURRING. SO FOR EXAMPLE PEMBROKE PINES OWNS 40 PLUS ACRES OF LAND AND SOUTHWEST RANCHES LANDS PROPERTY AND OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE FOR OTHER REASONS MIND ZONES PROPERTY OTHER LEAVING MINIMAL FOR MITIGATION REASONS ETC. IT'S NOT AN UNCOMMON ISSUE BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT PRECLUDED BY STATE LAW FOR THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THERE WAS A BILL IT FILED LAST YEAR IT WOULD NOT HAVE PRECLUDED THE OWNERSHIP OF LAND. IT REQUIRED THE NOTICE ISSUE BUT THE ADJACENT CITY OR THE EXCHANGING CITY OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE THAT THERE WAS IN FACT OWNERSHIP BY ANOTHER CITY IN THAT STATE. SO YOU'RE RIGHT TO THAT'S THE QUESTION BUT THERE'S NO CURRENT BILL PENDING. SURE THERE'S THE COUNTY ON ANY PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF TAMARA. I HAVE TO GO BACK. OK. YEAH. YOU MEAN THEY DO THEY OWN SOME PROPERTY RIGHT. WE CAN GET YOU A LIST OF PROPERTY THAT HE OWNS. SO. 
          SO THE COUNTY CAN DO A SWAP LIKE THIS WITH ANOTHER CITY AND WE WOULD HAVE NO SAY AS A COMMISSION. SO FOR EXAMPLE THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD THEY'RE AGAINST THIS. THEY VOTED 7 0 AGAINST THIS. SO THIS IS A WORK OF. SO IF IT'S A CITY IF THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING AND TAMARACK AND WE SAID NO YOU WERE JUST YOU COULD JUST FIND ANOTHER CITY AND DO A WALK AROUND. RIGHT. WHEN YOU SAID IN A CITY OF HOLLYWOOD VOTED 7 0 AGAINST US AGAINST THIS TOWER BEING AT THIS PARK. WELL THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE. 
          THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD HAS AGREED BASED ON OUR. AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND HAS APPROVED THE SITE AND ASSOCIATED WITH LESLIE PARK. AND NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH HER MEETING WITH THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD. SO IT WASN'T A 7 0 VOTE AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR SITE. I WAS READING A NEWS ARTICLE IT SAYS HOW DID THE COMMISSIONERS STAND THEIR GROUND ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. THAT WAS THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION BY ALL KINDS OF GOLD METAL TOWER IN WESTLAKE PARK. I'M NOT SURE WHAT ARTICLE THAT IT HOW OLD THAT. IS. JUNE 20 19 HOLLYWOOD'S IS NOT A MAN ON ONE RADIO TOWER AND COUNTY PARK. SO THAT WAS BACK IN JUNE. WE ENTER INTO AN. AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD FOR AN INDEPENDENT EXPERT AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT. WE BOTH WERE BLIND TO WHATEVER THE RESULTS CAME FROM THAT PARTICULAR AGREEMENT. AND IT CAME OUT AND SO BASED ON THAT AGREEMENT THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD APPROVED A SITE PLAN FOR RADIO TOWER AT WESLEY PARK AND THEY HAVE HONORED THEIR AGREEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH US BUILDING IN WESTLAKE PARK. SO WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF TAMARA GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS. AGAIN THIS GOES BACK TO THE SWAP COMPONENT. EXPLAIN THAT. SO LET ME JUST LET ME JUST ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          SO IS THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS SWAP PURCHASE. I'M NOT SURE OF THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD'S POSITION ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD OR HAVE NOT BEEN IN A COMMISSION OR A CITY COMMISSION MEETING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. BUT DEFINITELY AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE THIS SWAPS OCCUR AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE SWAPS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS PART OF THIS PART OF THIS TOWER THEN I GUESS THIS IS FOR STAFF. I THINK JULIE COMMISSIONER FISHMAN KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT. SO WE'RE AGREEING TO SOME FINANCIAL TERMS WHERE THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY ESCALATED TO THOSE TERMS. SO IF THE CONTRACT IS FOR 50 YEARS WE'LL GET 
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THAT SAME FIFTY TWO HUNDRED A MONTH. A 50 YEAR TERM I BELIEVE IN THE CONTRACT. 
          COMMISSIONER GALLANT THERE'S THERE IS AN ESCALATOR 2 PERCENT 2 PERCENT ESCALATOR. 
          IT'S AIRING IN SECTION TWO POINT THREE POINT ONE. VERY GOOD. THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS JUST LIKE THIS ONE FOR COMMISSIONER. BUT IN YOUR OPINION IT IS JUST ONE FOLLOW UP I. I DON'T. I DON'T PLAN TO ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS BUT COMMISSIONER GILLEN ASK A QUESTION AND I WANT CLARIFICATION TOO. CAN THE COUNTY HAVE ANOTHER CITY CITY SWITCH OUT ON LAND IN TIME THAT THE COUNTY NOW OWNS SO THERE'S LANDING TIME RECORD THE COUNTY OWNS HEARTLAND. IS THE COUNTY ABLE TO ENGAGE ANOTHER CITY AND SAY HEY TAKE THIS LAND IN TAMARACK AND LET'S SWAP THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN HOLLYWOOD. SO ARE YOU. SO I IT'S MONDAY. NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW IT'S NOT ACTUALLY WHAT'S TO OCCUR. YES WE COULD SWAP LAND YOU COULD YOU COULD SWAP OUR LAND AND TALK THE LAND YOU OWN QUARANTINE BECAUSE WITH ANOTHER CITY WITHOUT CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL YES I MEAN WITHOUT NOTICE OBVIOUSLY. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF THE COMMISSIONING SIZE. I BELIEVE THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT THIS. THE ITEM IS ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION AGENDA. THIS ITEM. TOMORROW YES IT IS. AT THE MOMENT IT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA. AND IF THE COUNTY COMMISSION ACCEPTS THIS TRANSACTION THEN THE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY AT WHICH YOU'LL CONSIDER BEING A LOCAL IS THEN LEGITIMATELY ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT PURPOSE. I SUSPECT IF THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO FURTHER DELAYS THE ITEM TOMORROW THE COMMISSION MAY WISH TO LOOK AT THAT ISSUE SEPARATELY DEPENDING ON WHAT OCCURS ON TUESDAY WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSION. YES. I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION THE COMMISSION HAS NO DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY BUT IT'S ON OUR AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY. CONDITION UPON THE COUNTY COMMISSION'S ACTION THE VICE MAYOR HAS A QUESTION. THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO ASK BASICALLY THE SAME QUESTION BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THIS MIGHT BE FOR OUR CITY MANAGER WHAT LAND IN TAMARACK COUNTY DOES ON SHORE VICE MAYOR. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE COUNTY HAS A NATURE PRESERVE AND THE WOOD MOUNT AREA AND MY I WANT TO SAY THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER COUNTY OWNED PARCELS IN THE COMMUNITY OUT OUTSIDE OF RIGHT SO THE WAY BUS STOPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER COUNTY OWNED PARCELS WITHIN THE CITY AND WE'RE GONNA FIND THAT OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU AND THEN I'LL JUST ASK WHEN YOU'RE GIVING US A LIST OF THE SLOT PARCELS. WOULD YOU ALSO LET US KNOW THE REASONS FOR PRESUMING PARCELS ONE STOP JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT. THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A NEED THAT OCCURRED. SO IF YOU WOULD ALSO LET US KNOW ABU GHRAIB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS WAS THAT YOUR TIME. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE 
          [2. TR13334 - Award of Public Art Contract to Ray King for Woodspring Suites Easement Property and Public Art Update on Sunset Point Park]
ON TO TR 1 3 3 3 4 PUBLIC ART CONTRACTS RAKING FOR WHAT'S SWEET EASEMENT PROPERTY AND PUBLIC ART. UPDATE FOR SUNSET POINT PARK. ITEM NUMBER 6. BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC ART ADMINISTRATORS GEORGE JACKSON THAT OTHERS AND WE HAVE OUR ARTISTS MARGI NORTHERN HERE TODAY IS IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT I GUESS. WELL IT WAS MIGHT HAVE MAYBE A RESTAURANT. SHE WAS JUST HERE. YOU WANT TO GIVE YOU A PRESENT. WANT OK. WE CAN START RIGHT NOW IF WE WANT TO. BUT THANK YOU MAXIM CALLOWAY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR JACOB GOOD MORNING. I'M WRITING A POEM AS VICE MAYOR OF FLACCO AND THE COMMISSIONERS GEORGE GADSON GETS THEM OUT OF ITS DEPTH RABBITS CATS AND RABBITS. NOW IF YOU GIVE NO THOUGHT I'LL JUST. AND FROM DUVAL WE'D LIKE TO BRING YOU AN UPDATE AND KIND OF MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND IN TERMS OF THE PRIORITY. THE ORDER ON THE AGENDA. I'M GOING TO HAVE MY PARTNER HERE 
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INTRODUCE OUR PROJECT. WE HAVE THIS PROJECT WAS INTRODUCED IN 2013 AND IT'S STILL GOING ON. OKAY. THIS PROJECT'S INITIAL INITIAL BUDGET IN 2013 WAS FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THERE WERE TWO G C'S THAT BID ON IT AND A MILLION TWO AND A MILLION WON. SO WE TOOK THE OPTION OF HAVING THE ARTISTS MARQUEE NORTHWARD LOOK AT IDEAS TO REDUCE THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND REDESIGN IT. AND WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR HER TO GO OVER THAT REDESIGN. BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ORIGINAL PROJECTS IN THE UPPER RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE A. PERISCOPE IDEA THAT WOULD BE LOOKING OUT ONTO THE EVERGLADES AND THIS PROJECT STARTED AS A NEA GRANT AND HAVING TO DO WITH THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY AND WE FELT AT THIS LOCATION LOOKING OUT OVER THE EVERGLADES WAS VERY VERY IDEAL FOR MARCIE'S BRILLIANT IDEA AND SHE'S GOING TO TAKE OVER NOW AND SHOW YOU. I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE OTHER THING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE. THE INITIAL BUDGET WAS FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THIS WAS BACK IN 2013. JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE ALL RIGHT. AND MONEYS HAVE BEEN EARMARKED FOR IT AND ARE THERE READY FOR THAT FOR THE 400000. GOOD MORNING. SO JUST TO GO BACK TO THE SITE. HI MY NAME IS MAGGIE. MAGGIE LIVE NOW THAT I'M THE SUNSET ARTIST. AND AM VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING. SO THIS PROJECT REALLY THE CONCEPT FOR IT IS TO SOME SHOW SHOULD BE SEEN FROM THE FREEWAY SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT IT'S NEARLY TWO HUNDRED FEET LONG. AND BUT THE OTHER IMPORTANT PART OF IT WAS IT WAS A COMMUNITY PROJECT SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE PARK IN SUNSET PARK AND SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE COULD SORT OF SPEND TIME ON AND. 
          EVERYTHING FROM EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING TO JUST HANGING OUT AS A VERY LARGE SCULPTURE. I HAD A PRESENCE ALSO AS A SORT OF PLACE. OKAY. WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          LET'S DRIVE OFF AND GO IN AND EXPERIENCE THIS THING. SO IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GET TO THIS POINT BUT MY CHARGE WAS FOR MOVING FORWARD FROM THIS POINT WAS TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF REDUCE IT DOWN TO A MORE REASONABLE BUDGET OBVIOUSLY AND STILL MAINTAIN THE OVERALL CONCEPT. SO YOU KNOW HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT SORT OF APPROACH AND ALSO TO MAINTAIN THE PERISCOPE CONCEPT IN THE PERISCOPE CONCEPT AS THE PLAY IS SORT OF HAD THIS GIANT COMMUNITY PERISCOPE WHICH MEANT THAT TAKING A VISUAL IMAGE OF THE EVERGLADES AND REFLECTING IT INTO THE PROJECT ITSELF SO THAT WHEN YOU STOOD THERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE THIS THIS IMAGE IN THE GROUND COMPONENT WHICH IS THE CLASSROOM COMPONENT WHERE KIDS LITERALLY CAN COME AND SIT THERE AND BE EDUCATED ABOUT THE POWER OF THE EVERGLADES ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE IN THIS AS A LANDSCAPE PROJECT WAS THAT WE HAVE EPIC FIGHTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ATTACHED TO THE STRUCTURE AND WE'LL BE GOING TO TALKING ABOUT THAT BUT ALSO OF COURSE IN THE SPACE THIS IS PART ONE OF TWO PHASES THIS FIRST PHASE IS TO ESTABLISH THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE COST. HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT. SO THAT WAS MY OTHER CHARGE THAT I WAS GIVEN BY THE TEAM. SO I HAVE A FEW SLIDES ABOUT MY SIZE AND I'M GOING TO THERE REALLY ARE MORE THE SORT OF MECHANICS OF HOW WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING TO GET TO REDUCE THE COST. SO THIS IS ABOUT THE INITIAL DESIGN IS ABOUT 200 FEET LONG. YOU KNOW IT'S SITUATED ON THE BERM WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN ELEMENTS. 
          AND IT WAS THIS IS AN EXISTING BERM WHICH HAS TO BE SOMEWHAT MODIFIED. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT ELEMENTS IN THE PARK IS THAT IT NEEDED TO STAY AND HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE AREA ACCESSIBLE STRUCTURE. SO ANYONE GOING THERE WOULD NOT BE LIMITED IN TERMS OF ACCESSING IT. THE OTHER THING WAS TO THAT'S ON THE WAY ON THE EAST SIDE. THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING WAS BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO THE VERY END OF THE BERM YOU STILL HAD SPACE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE EVERGLADES. SO UNIQUE TO BEING THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF THE EVERGLADES. SO SOMEHOW THROUGH THAT WHEN NEEDED ACTUALLY ABOUT THAT LENGTH. SO IN THE MODIFICATION TO THAT WHICH NOW IS THIS PROPOSAL ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR FEET. SO IT'S STILL A VERY LINEAR STRUCTURE TO UTILIZE THE BERM ITSELF AND SO GREAT IT A LITTLE BIT TO GET UP AND CHOP OFF ABOUT 24 FEET MAINTAINING ABOUT SIX OF THE ELEMENTS. AND YES. AND I'LL GO THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS BUT THE SECOND ELEMENT IS THIS IS A STRUCTURE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY AN ALGAL BLOOM IN HERE A LITTLE BIT JUST AN ORIENTATION. THE IMAGE ON THE TOP IS THE PROPOSED NEW STRUCTURE AND THE JOINTS ON THE BOTTOM UNDER ITS PREVIOUS DESIGN. SO 
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JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE MAKING CHANGES HERE IT HASN'T SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED SO THAT YOU COULDN'T MAKE THE CASE THAT THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A SIMILAR SCULPTURAL EXPERIENCE. SO THE OVERALL STRUCTURE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN REDUCED IN LENGTH BY 24 FEET AS YOU ARRIVE YOU GO THROUGH ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS CALLED A GRADIENT WHICH ALLOWS US TO ESSENTIALLY RETAIN THE DIRT AND THEN YOU MIGHT SEE THIS IN THE STRUCTURE WITH WITH WITH SOME ROCKS AND THEN MOVED THROUGH TOWARDS THE WEST OVER A GRAVEL AREA WHICH IS ALSO 88 COMPLIANT. WE'LL GET ONTO WHAT IS IN RED ON THE ON THE PLAN WHICH IS BASICALLY SOME ALUMINUM TUBES AND THAT ALLOWS YOU TO ENTER THIS KIND OF REALM OF THE STRUCTURE AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT ALSO IN THE NEXT SLIDE DOWN HERE WHICH IS THE VERTICAL ASPECT OF IT SEE YOU IN PERSON. THIS CONCEPT OF THIS LANDSCAPE I IMMEDIATELY REALIZED THAT YOU KNOW THE SUN ONLY SETS ONCE ONCE IN THE DAY WATCHING IT KEEPS HAPPENING BUT YOU MIGHT NOT GO THERE LIKE THAT. SO THIS CONCEPT OF RED IS TO MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN THIS VERY SATURATED RED EXPERIENCE AND SO IF YOU'RE THERE IN THE MORNING YOU STILL MAY HAVE A KIND OF IDEA OF A SUNSET. SO LET'S GO THIS IDEA OF RED. BUT TO HAVE HIS VERTICAL ELEMENTS I WAS ALSO VERY CONSCIOUS THAT WE HAVE A NOT PERFECT VIEW ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE YOU CAN SEE CITY FURNITURE. AND SO THAT IS KIND OF A CENTER OF THAT VIEW. SO EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND YOU IS BEAUTIFUL. SO SCOTT THIS IS THE STRUCTURE THE SCULPTURE THAT YOU'RE INHABITING SO THE NEXT SLIDE I'M SHOWING I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE JUST FOR ONE MOMENT TO SHOW YOU THAT THE PROTRUDING ELEMENTS ON THIS ON THE BOTTOM IN THIS CLUSTERING WHICH 10 15 KIDS DEPENDING ON HOW THEY'RE OCCUPYING THAT SYDNEY CIRCLE WOULD BE COVER. YOU HAVE SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE AND THEN ON THE VERY END OF THAT NUMBER SEVEN IS THE PERISCOPE COMPONENT WHICH IS KIND OF FRAMING THE VIEW OF THE EVERGLADES AND YOU CAN SEE IT HERE IN SECTION AT AN ELEVATION THAT'S THAT OBJECT WHICH IS PERCHED. SO NOW I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW THIS FIRST PHASE I'VE APPROACHED REDUCING THE BUDGET. WE HAD INITIALLY EARLY ON WE HAD LOOKED AT THE A WAY OF BUILDING IT USING A PILE FOUNDATION WHICH IS BASED ON GETTING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE THROUGH THE GROUND. AND THAT TURNED OUT TO BE QUITE EXPENSIVE BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO BE THE BEST APPROACH. BUT WE WORKED WITH CONSTRUCTION WORK RIGHT NOW AND WE ALSO GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE AND ONE OF THE MAIN ONE OF THE PERSONS WHO PROPOSED TO BID ON THE PROJECT AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO SAY LET'S BUILD THIS OUT OF A CONCRETE SLAB THAT HAS GREATLY REDUCED THE PRICE. AND THIS NEW PROPOSAL HERE. SO IT'S MOSTLY A SLAB ON GRADE WITH SOME MINOR PILES AND ONLY PILE STRUCTURE ON THE WEST SIDE. WE'VE ALSO REDUCED IN SIZE WE'VE ALSO REDUCED REMOVED SOME OF THE OVERHEAD ELEMENTS AT THE END OF THE DAY THE PROJECT BUDGET NOW HAS COME DOWN TO HE HAS A BREAKDOWN OF IT TO AROUND 370000 FOR THE HARD COST THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND. THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE IN THIS FIRST PHASE. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT'S THE COST. IF YOU TAKE NOW YOU HAVE TO ADD YOUR GENERAL CONDITIONS AND YOUR STAFF COSTS IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH PERMITTING AND INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING IN IT TAKES YOU UP TO JUST UNDER SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND. SO THIS IS YOU KNOW SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN IT WAS. IT MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEND YET BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU TO GET YOUR GUIDANCE AND HEAR FROM YOU SOME FEEDBACK. I'VE ALSO SHOWN YOU ANOTHER FIFTY THOUSAND WHICH WOULD BE FOR LIGHTING. THAT WAS NOT IN OUR ORIGINAL SCOPE I WAS NOT ASKED TO DO THE LIGHTING WE HAD BUT WE'D LIKE TO WE CAN ADD MORE LANDSCAPING OR WE WILL JUST LEAVE THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING AS IT IS. AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE SHOWING THE SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND FOUR SITE WORTH BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOME MORE DRAWINGS TO UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO REFER BACK TO MY COLLEAGUES TO ANY QUESTIONS OKAY. SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS. SO THAT BRINGS US TO VICE MAYOR IS REACHING. SO GO FOR IT. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU DID 100 YARDS OF THAT ONE TO DATE. WE'VE SPENT SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY BASED ON THIS. HOW DOES THAT LINE OF ART BECAUSE I KNOW 
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WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUN AND WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY FUNDS WE CAN DO. SO BASED ON GOING 100 THOUSAND IN TOTAL WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US. WELL THE IMPACT OF THE PROJECT AND I GUESS WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE A MILLION TWO HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO US TO SPEND THIS AVAILABLE FUND ALREADY TAKES INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT IS ALREADY ENCUMBERED TO SOME OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS ALREADY ENCUMBERED IS NOT REFLECTED IN THIS AVAILABLE BALANCE THAT WE JUST MENTIONED HOWEVER FUTURE PROJECTS MIGHT ALSO HAVE FUNDS THAT ARE NOT YET RECOGNIZED YOU HAVE TIME AT VILLAGE AND MAJOR PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT YET ON BOARD WITH THOSE FUNDS HAVE NOT YET COME INTO THE ACCOUNT. SO WE DO HAVE SOME AVAILABLE CASH DEPENDING ON THE DESIGN MISSION AND BE MADE AVAILABLE TO OFFSET THE COSTS. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT ROCKETING PRICE. THIS PROJECT WILL IMPACT OTHER PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'VE GONE FROM I WOULD NOT WANT ONE PROJECT TO IMPACT OTHERS. YES AND WE HAVE A FEW OTHER PROJECTS GOING WHICH WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT NEXT AND. WE'LL SEE THE BUDGETS FOR THOSE SOME OF THEM ARE NOT SUBSTANTIAL. ONE IS THE WOOD SPRING SUITES THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. AND AGAIN WE FEEL COMFORTABLE IN A WAY THAT IT'S REALLY VERY EXCITING AND VERY DIFFERENT PROJECT FOR THE CITY. IT INVOLVES YOUNG AND ART DOING AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM WHICH IS GOING TO MOVE MANY PEOPLE FROM THE EAST INTO OUR WEST AREA OF TAMARACK. AND THAT'S ALWAYS NICE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT EXCHANGE. AND IT'S DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING WE'VE EVER DONE. AND THE OLD STORY OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID THIS WAS STARTED IN 2013. AND AS WE ALL KNOW THE REALITY OF PRICES GOING UP THE LONGER WE DELAY THIS YOU KNOW THE MORE THE PRICE GOES UP IN OUR CITY OR ANYWHERE ACROSS THE NATION. RIGHT. WITHIN SOUTH FLORIDA TO OUR KNOWLEDGE WE WE DON'T KNOW OF ANY OF THAT. YEAH. AND WE ARE VERY ACTIVE IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA AND NOT IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND ALL OF FLORIDA. GEORGE AND I BELONG TO AN ORGANIZATION OF PROFESSIONAL OBSERVATION WHERE WE GET MONTHLY UPDATES. AND NOW THIS WOULD BE VERY INNOVATIVE FOR OUR CITY. A FABULOUS PROJECT ABSOLUTELY LIGHTING. AND IF I MAY ADD AT THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ASKED IN TERMS OF FUNDING SOURCES OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC ART FUND AND WE DID DISCUSS SOME OPTIONS TO CONSIDER ASSUMING THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. ONE BEING THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF BROWARD WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BEEN ABLE TO ACQUIRE FUNDING FROM THEM IN ORDER TO REALIZE INTEGRATED ART INTO THE PROJECT TAMARACK VILLAGE AND THAT INCLUDES MARGI ALSO GEORGE AND I HAVE OBTAINED A FEW GRANTS FROM THEM AND MARGA ALSO IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT ORGANIZATION HAS RECEIVED MONEYS FROM THEM. SO WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT AND WE'VE STARTED TALKS AMONG OURSELVES OF HOW TO APPROACH THEM AND. THAT IS A REALITY THAT PERHAPS WE COULD GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT FOR THE CITY WITH THIS PROJECT WITH A ESTIMATED BOTTOM LINE. WE HAVE AN IMAGE OF WHAT I KNOW. SO LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CLOSER OR CLEAR. WE WE DO HAVE IT BUT NOT OK. WE CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU A LOT OF OTHER IMAGES WE GET AGAIN 
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FOR THE FOR THE SAKE OF TIME. WE REALLY NARROWED THIS PRESENTATION DOWN THAT WE SEND OUT ANOTHER ROUND OF IMAGES MAYBE A VIDEO OR SOMETHING. GREAT. AND THIS IS OFF MCNAB WHICH IS THE VERY END OF MCNAB WHERE IT MEETS THE SWORD. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS. I GO TO THAT PARKING LOT BUT I'M NOT SURE WE'RE IN THE BACK END OF IT WHERE THE TREES ARE IN THE BACK. THERE'S NOTHING THERE. A PLAY PLAY PLAY. IT'S BEHIND THAT GRASS USING THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE. IT'S THE CLOSEST TO THE CITY FURNITURE. IT'S A GIANT BERM THEY ARE VERY LENGTHY. IT WOULD BE GOING ON TOP OF THAT. I IS VETERANS IN SOME AREA AS WELL. SO THAT'S PART OF THE IDEA. AND I IF I MAY THAT YOUR QUESTION I THINK IS IS EVEN DIRECTED TO WHAT. HOW DOES THIS OPERATE RIGHT. AND SO MAYBE MARTY IF YOU'D LIKE TO OF EXPLAIN HOW IT OPERATES THEN CAN FOLLOW UP WITH NO VISUALS ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE. AM I CORRECT WITH THAT. IT WOULD BE OUR FOCUS. 
          I THINK THE ONLY I THINK IT WAS JUST THE VICE MAYOR AND MYSELF ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO ON THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME THAT YOU MADE YOUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION. OK. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE SEEN ANYTHING SINCE THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE MAY BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT AND HOW THE INTER ACTION WITH HUMAN BEINGS ON IT AND THE SCIENCE AND EVERYTHING WAS WORKING WITH OUR I APOLOGIZE I WASN'T AWARE OF ALL THAT BUT SO THE INTENT THE WAY THAT IT'S USED IS THAT IF IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT ALMOST LIKE A LARGE PLAYGROUND FOR FAMILIES IT'S ESSENTIALLY A RAMP. I MEAN AT THE MOST BASIC LEVEL BUT YOU CAN ACCESS FULLY ON UP THE BOOM THE BOOM IS SORT OF 12 FEET HIGH PRETTY MUCH AND YOU CAN ENTER SERVICE THE VERY MUCH. NOW IS JUST BASICALLY EQUAL EQUALLY EQUALLY MOUNTED ON EITHER SIDE. AND SO WE WOULD SHAVE IT OFF A LITTLE BIT BUT STILL ALLOW YOU TO KIND OF SLICE THROUGH IT. THIS IS ALMOST AS IF YOU PUT A SEESAW BACK ON ONE SIDE YOU CAN PUSH IT DOWN INTO THE BERM ON THE OTHER SIDE IT WOULD GO UP SO THE RAMP WOULD YOU WOULD ENTER ON THE LOWER SIDE ON THE EAST. AND THIS KIND OF THING SORT OF HEART INTO IT AND THAT WAY YOU BE USING THIS TOPOGRAPHY THAT IS QUITE UNUSUAL TO HAVE A VERY HORIZONTAL SPACE HERE. IMAGINE CARVING THROUGH THAT AND THEN KIND OF EMERGING. SO WHAT IT DOES IS IT GIVES YOU JUST KIND OF THIS NEW SPACE THAT YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH AND THEN IT REVEALS AND IT ALSO FOCUSES EVERYONE ON THE EVERGLADES WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ALL TALK ABOUT BUT WE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT'S A PLACE OF THIS HORIZON. AND AS YOU KIND OF EMERGE OUT OF THAT SPACE THESE RED TUBES WHICH ARE TWELVE FEET HIGH ARE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. AND MY CONCEPT IS OVER TIME THAT THEY WILL BE COVERED IN EPI SITES WHICH ARE AIR PLANTS ESSENTIALLY THAT WILL CLEAN THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE MY THINKING IS THAT YOU PUT ALL THESE CARS ON FUMES AND EVERYTHING. SO OVER TIME THIS WILL BECOME THIS KIND OF VERTICAL GARDEN AND AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IT YOU KNOW KIDS DON'T BEHAVE LIKE I WANT THEM TO BEHAVE IN TERMS OF THIS ARTWORK BUT THANK GOODNESS I'M VERY CONTENT THAT I'M GOING TO. RUN UP AND DOWN THIS WAY AND ANOTHER PEOPLE BE WALKING THIS WAY. SO ULTIMATELY YOU WILL GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE END IF YOU CHOOSE TO OR YOU'LL JUST KIND OF ENTER INTO DIFFERENT PLACES AND IT'S SAFE. WE WILL HAVE HANDRAILS AT THE END WHERE IT BECOMES A PERCH THAT KIND OF YOU'LL SEE IT'S ELEVATED AT THE VERY END THERE. AND THE LAST SLIDE AND THAT PART IS BASICALLY A WIDE AREA WHERE YOU CAN STAND AND LOOK AT THE SO-CALLED PERISCOPE. NOW DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU STAND AND THIS TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION DIFFERENT HEIGHTS AND DIFFERENT AGES OF PEOPLE SO IF YOU STAND CLOSER TO IT AND YOU'RE SHORTER YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE REFLECTION OF THE EVERGLADES ON THE HORIZON ON A SORT OF ANGLED MODIFIED TO RESURFACE AND FURTHER AWAY YOU'LL GET THE SAME IMAGE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU WORK WITH FACEBOOK. BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK ALL THE WAY THROUGH YOU CAN JUST WALK UP THE STAIRS BECAUSE THE STAIRS ARE RIGHT THERE FROM THE PARK. 
          SO IT'S IT'S BASICALLY A LOOP. OK. WE CAN. I'D LIKE MARGI TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU SEE THROUGH IT. THIS STARTED OUT THE VERY VERY FIRST DESIGN IN 2013 WAS LITERALLY A PERISCOPE FROM ONE PERSON TO BE ABLE TO VIEW AND IT'S NOW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THROUGH MANY WONDERFUL THROUGH WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH ALL OF YOU AND OUR PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND MARGI. IT'S IT'S ADVANCED TO THIS STAGE. PLEASE TELL ME WHAT. HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN YOU. AT ONE TIME THE PERISCOPE. WHAT'S THE MATTER. WHAT MAKES IT APPEAR. OKAY SO THE. SO IT'S NOT JUST A SQUARE AT THE A RECTANGLE AT THE END. IT'S VERY SCIENTIFIC DON'T SEE THE SCREENS TAKE THE RED. YEAH BUT THE. SO THE 
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PERISCOPE IS IS FINISHED WITH A SOLAR PAINT AND THE PAINT IS VERY REFLECTIVE ON THE SURFACE AND THAT SOLAR PAINT AND GENERATE. IF WE HAD STORAGE AND STUFF THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE ITS OWN ELECTRICAL POWER. BUT THAT PAINT SURFACE AS IS IS WHAT ALLOWS IT TO RETAIN THE IMAGE AND SO THAT IMAGE BECOMES SORT OF A TWO DIMENSIONAL ELEMENT OF THE REPRESENTATION OF THE EVERGLADES. AND THAT CAN HAVE PROBABLY 20 30 PEOPLE DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH. I MEAN PEOPLE WANT TO STAND UP STANDARD BUT THE IDEA THE CHARGE WAS TO DO A PERISCOPE BUT I REALIZE THAT AT SOME POINT YOU WANT US TO BE FOR EVERYONE AND NOT JUST FOR ONE PERSON WORKING 100 THAT PERISCOPE. SO THAT WAS THE IDEA THAT THIS IS REALLY A SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. GUESS NO QUESTION. BUT THIS IS REALLY DIRECTED TO STAFF. MY I'VE ACTUALLY DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE MY SON THERE BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRUCKS AND THE FUMES AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF STUDY TO STUDY THE AIR POLLUTION AT THAT PARTICULAR PARK. NO. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PROJECT GO FORWARD. I AM. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR SIX YEARS NOW AND WHILE I WASN'T ON THE COMMISSION WHEN IT WAS FIRST PRESENTED I KNOW THAT I WAS PART OF THE AUDIENCE THAT WENT OH YEAH. THIS SOUNDS GREAT. AND FOR US TO BE THIS CLOSE IT IS VERY EXCITING AND I'D LOVE TO SEE US GO FORWARD. THE LONGER WE WAIT THE MORE COSTLY IT BECOMES. I KNOW THAT. THE MAYOR AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE ON THE GUEST LIST BUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO OUR GRAND OPENING OFFICE. SO LET'S GET MOVING. ABOUT THEM. HOW WAS THE PUBLIC ART BUDGET DERIVED. I DIDN'T GIVE THEM MONEY WE'D CALL IT CONTRIBUTIONS FROM DEVELOPERS 1 PERCENT OF THE VALUE OF CONSTRUCTION IS PAID INTO THE FUND SO THAT 1 PERCENT. HOW DO HOW DOES THAT AFFECT. OUR RESIDENTS. DOES IT AFFECT THEM IN ANY WAY. IT'S NOT A TAX THAT'S THAT'S BASED ON THE RESIDENTS AS I SAID BEFORE IT'S I'M BUILDING PERMITS ON DEVELOPERS PRIMARILY. THERE THERE'S SOME EXEMPTION FOR ADDITIONS. FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO ON THE PRIMARILY LARGER DEVELOPMENTS ARE SUBJECT TO THE 1 PERCENT VALUE. SO IF I'M GOING TO PUT IN LET'S SEE A HURRICANE IMPACT WINDOW IN MY HOUSE THEN THAT 1 PERCENT WOULD NOT APPLY. THERE IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING EXEMPTION FOR ME IF I WANT TO CHANGE A TOILET. NO IT WOULD NOT. AND IF I WANT TO INCLUDE MY PATIO THAT DOESN'T IT WOULD NOT. SO JUST GIVE ME ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW WOULD. BE SQUARE PROJECT ON THE EDEN PROJECT WHEN THAT COMES ONLINE. TAMAR REALLY. JUST MAYBE NOT SOME OF YOUR LARGE CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU'RE MOST FAMILIAR WITH THOSE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE 1 PERCENT OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS. OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU SO BETH AND GEORGE FOR ALWAYS COMING FOR US TO THE ART SUITE. WELCOME TO WASHINGTON. IN THIS LEAGUE AND AGAIN I CAN'T TELL IS MORE BEAUTIFUL YOU BETH OR DEBORAH SO SOMETIMES. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU BACK HERE AGAIN WITH US. 
          AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN. I HAVE BEEN OVER THE MOON SINCE THIS PROJECT CAME OUT AND WE WERE MAKING THIS WHERE IT WAS EVEN LARGER IN SCOPE WHERE OUR KIDS CAN COME AND SIT AND LEARN WHERE PEOPLE COULD JUST SIT AND DRAW. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY INTERACTIVE FOR EVERYBODY OF ALL AGES IN OUR COMMUNITY. I LOVE THIS PROJECT. I AGREE. LIGHTING IS A MUST MUST. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN ONE WAS ON SORRY. BUT ANYBODY CARE ASSISTANT THIRTY FIVE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. THEN FIGURING OUT HOW TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE GRANTS AND WHATEVER WE COULD DO TO TRY TO HELP FUND THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I THINK IF 
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YOU TAKE ANYTHING MORE OUT WILL LOSE SOME OF THE SPECTACULAR PORTIONS OF THIS IT IS ECONOMICALLY ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY. IT'S EDUCATIONAL. LET'S BE REALLY BEAUTIFUL. IT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL WHEN IT WHEN IT IS THERE. AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW DID YOU YOUNG THERE ARE AMAZING PROJECTS FOR THEM. GET THE KIDS INVOLVED GET OUR SCHOOLS INVOLVED WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS. I UNDERSTAND THAT ARE OUT OF MONEY THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR ART IN OUR CITY IS THAT IS THAT VALUE IN DOING THE MATH. IF WE USE IT ALL FOR THIS PROJECT TO THE TUNE OF APPROXIMATELY EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND. I'M JUST ROUNDING IT UP. IT WILL NOT LEAVE MUCH IN THERE. AND WE HAVE STUFF ALREADY EARMARKED BUT AS YOU ALSO SAID WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING. I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PLAN. L.A. SQUARE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH TIME OUR VILLAGE AND HOW MUCH HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT FOR THAT THERE'S MORE MONEY THEY'LL BE THERE IN THE FUTURE AND QUITE HONESTLY IF WE GET THIS DONE WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER ARTISTS AND OTHER PROJECTS AND OTHER GRANTS MAY COME FORWARD TO OUR CITY TO BE ABLE TO RESTORE SOME OF THAT ART COFFERS FOR THIS. I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WITH OUR CITY GETTING SOMETHING ON THE MAP YOUR DESTINATION. WELL I LOVE COLONY WEST AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE A GOLF COURSE AND HAVE SCHOOLS HERE AND FUNDRAISERS THAT WE DO FOR OTHER THINGS THERE AND WONDERFUL EVENTS FOR PEOPLE LIKE THE WHITE THERE. THIS IS A HOLDING PATH FOR US AND ALSO BRINGS IN MORE PEOPLE TO SEE HOW WONDERFUL OUR CITY IS. AND I THINK IT'S JUST A FANTASTIC IDEA. SO I SUPPORT THIS TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE FINANCIALS ON IT. I WOULD DEFINITELY ADD TO ADD THE LIGHTING NO MATTER WHAT I THINK. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS. I WILL ASK BACK OVER THE LAST NIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THESE STRONG JOB HERE. WE NEED A PLACE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO OUR CITY AND THAT DEFINITELY WOULD BE IT. 
          SO LET'S USE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE. I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER TOPIC OF ART YOUR WELCOME TO SIT HERE. OR MAKE IT SO MUCH FEEL GREAT FEEDBACK FOR SHADERS. THANK YOU. WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE SECOND PART OF OUR CONVERSATION REGARDING PUBLIC ART. SAVING MONEY OK. AGAIN TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND AT WOULD SPRING SUITES HOTEL. WHICH IS AT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF THE STORE. THIS IS THE VERY END OF COMMERCIAL BY THE STORE EXPRESSWAY. THE ENTRANCE WAY AND THE EXIT WE PUT OUT A CALL FOR AUGUST. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A LANDMARK SCULPTURE AND RAKING WAS THE SELECTED ARTIST. HIS SCHEDULE ENGINEERING AND FABRICATION IS TAKING ENGINEERING AND FABRICATION. 
          EVERYTHING IS BEING IN PLACE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE WORKED ON A CONTRACT FOR HIM. WE'RE HOPING TO INSTALL 20 20 OR SOONER. HE IS READY TO GO. HERE'S THE LOOK. YES AND THIS ITEM IS ON YOUR AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY. SO YOU SEE THAT TR NUMBER THAT'S ON THE FIRST LINE THAT THE CONTRACT RICKY'S CONTRACT IS ON THE AGENDA IF WE HAVE A CLARIFICATION. THAT PART IS WHAT WE WILL BE VOTING ON THE ITEM THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED FOR CENTERPOINT POINT PARK IS NOT THE ITEM WE'RE VOTING ON. THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. AND I BELIEVE I DID GET SOME CONSENSUS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE US AT LEAST MOVE TO THE NEXT PROJECT. YES. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE SCULPTURE WHERE WE OBTAINED AN EASEMENT OF 20 BY 30 FEET. AND THAT'S WHERE THE SCULPTURE WILL BE PLACED AND IT WILL HAVE LIGHTED THIS. THIS IS THE FINAL CHANGES THAT HE HAD MADE UPON YOUR REQUEST. AND THIS WILL HAVE LIGHTING CAN DO WHAT IT WAS REQUESTED FROM THE VERY START BEFORE THE BUILDING STARTED TO BRING TIME DO IT. WELL WE KNOW WHAT WE DO HERE. DID WE. WELL EVEN GENTLEMEN SEEING HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES DO YOU WANT TO RECESS. THEN WE GOT STUCK. I WAS TRYING. I'M SORRY. OK. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S. THE INTERIOR OF THIS FLOWER IS 
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GLASS AND AROUND IT IS METAL. HE IS BRINGING HEAT. HE IS PROVIDING THE LIGHTING. WE ARE PROVIDING THE CONDUIT TO THE LIGHTING WHICH HE MADE WITH ME OVER THE WEEKEND. HE WANTED TO DO THAT IN HIS CONTRACT AND IT'S IN IT. AND HERE'S SOME OF THE VIEWS OF THE UH OUR NEXT PROJECT ACTUALLY PERFORMS THE NEXT PROJECT. I LIKE TO AND ALSO. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS ABOUT THE ITEM THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON. WHISPERING SWEETS THIS VERY THING. SEEN NO COMMENTS. I WILL JUST MAKE ONE UP. I THINK. WE MAY HAVE COVERED THIS BUT HOW DO WE CHOOSE THAT LOCATION THAT LOCATION WAS ACTUALLY SWEET. YEAH WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AND WE HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH FINDING INNOVATIVE WAYS OR LOCATIONS THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US FOR SIGNIFICANT PIECES. AND SO WHEN THIS PROJECT CAME BEFORE US FOR THE SITE PLAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SECURE THE EASEMENT FOR THAT LOCATION WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO GOING FORWARD ON PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT NEW DEVELOPMENT IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST ONE ISN'T IT. THIS IS THE SECOND EASEMENT WE HAVE SECURED THE FIRST ONE BEING THE WOODLANDS PROPERTY WHERE WE SECURITY EASEMENT THERE. OK. SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WITH SPRINGS WE LIKE THIS IDEA OF BEING THERE THEY DO WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THEM. IMAGES FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND ONCE IT WAS CHANGING EVERY ITERATION WERE PROVIDED TO THEM AND JUST RECENTLY WE PROVIDED THEM THIS LAST IMAGE LIKE THE MANDALAY BAY. WE DID NOT PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT. WE'RE GOING TO FIND A HOME. I'M NOT DONE YET. AND DID THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE PUBLIC ART FUND. YES THEY DID. PAISLEY PLEASE. MR. KING THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US TO GET SOMETHING. WE'D ALL LIKE THAT FITS THE CITY AND THE BENGAL. I LIKE. IN MY OPINION IT LOOKS LIKE A SUNDIAL I WILL NOT ASK IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT STRUCTURE. BUT KNOWING THAT THERE IS ELECTRIC THERE YOU KNOW WE COULD DO IN THE FUTURE I PROMISE I'M NOT GONNA RAISE. BLOOD. PRESSURE PRECIOUS GUY. OH GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT ITEM PLEASE. OK. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND THE COLONY WEST BARBARA LEE SCULPTURE WE HAD PRESENTED TO YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO BEFORE THE COMMISSION WOULD BE SINCE THE PROCESS THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE HAD GONE THROUGH IN SELECTING OUR THREE SEMIFINALISTS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE IF YOU WILL TO THE COMMISSION AND THE ARTIST THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE WAS MR. JIM BOWMAN AND THE BUDGET SUPPORTED BY THOUSANDS DOLLARS. WE WENT BACK TO SPEAK WITH MR. BOWMAN AND TO GIVE HIM YOUR FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF COLOR AND THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WISH TO HAVE CONSIDERED AND BEAR GOMEZ PROVIDED ME WITH A WONDERFUL PHOTOGRAPH OF A PIECE OF GLASS THAT HAD THE BLUES IN IT. BUT JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT MR. WILSON HAD DONE IN PREVIOUS PROJECTS. SO HE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND I'M GOING TO ASK MY BUSINESS PARTNER VANNA WHITE HERE TO ACTUALLY SHOW YOU. HE PROVIDED US WITH JUST TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL HERE OF HOW THIS ACTUALLY WILL BE DESIGNED AND HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF COLORS AND ITERATIONS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE THIS IS THE HAND BLOWN RONDO GLASS AS WELL AS SHE THAT GET IT TO MAKE THIS TWENTY WATT TWENTY FOUR YEARS BY THREE INCHES BY THREE A RECTANGULAR FUSED GLASS WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT HE HAD CREATED BEFORE AND IT SHOWS THE EFFECTS OF THE SILVER LEAF INCLUSIONS 
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THAT YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU EXAMINE THEM CLOSELY ARE COMBINED WITH REACTIVE GLASS THE SILVER LEAF TIMES DIFFERENT SHADES OF GOLD AND GLAZE GRAINS RATHER SLIGHTLY AS A GLASS ROSE UNDER THE HEAT OF THE FIRING PROCESS. THIS AS AN INTERESTING ORGANIC ELEMENT TO THE ARTWORK. WHICH CAN BE APPRECIATED ON AN UPSIDE UP CLOSE VIEW. 
          THE SAMPLES ALSO SHOW SOME DARK CHROME GLASS IN THE PIECE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE WHICH APPEARS IN A CONTRARY COLOR IN REFLECTIVE LIGHTS AND OF COURSE BLUES AND TRANSMITTER LIGHTS. MR BOWMAN IS OPEN TO EVEN MODIFYING SLIGHTLY THE COLORS AGAIN AND WORKING WITH MAYBE THE BLUES AND FOLDS RIGHT. THOSE WERE THE COLORS THAT HE'S DOING NOT WHAT YOU SEE THERE. THAT'S WHAT YOU DID NOT WANT OF COURSE THE WHAT YOU HAVE HERE. THIS DOES IT. THESE ARE NOT THE EXACT COLORS BUT TO SHOW THAT HE'S HE'S HE'S WORKING WITH DIFFERENT COLORS AND TRYING TO PULL IF YOU WILL OUT SOME OF THE CLOSENESS AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE MAYBE TO SOME OF THE TAMARACK COLORS BUT THE BLUE BEING THE PREDOMINANT COLOR THAT WOULD BE IN THE DESIGN AND AT THIS POINT WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PARTICULAR. YEAH. IT'S AN UPDATE JUST AN UPDATE YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM MINE. OKAY. ACTUALLY WE MIGHT WANT IF IF INDEED THIS IS IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS IF YOU WILL A REQUEST OF THE PERMISSION WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD. IF THIS FEATURES YOUR SATISFACTION TO ENGAGE HIM IN A CONTRACT TO THEN BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FABRICATION SITE GO YES. THIS IS IN THE AMOUNT OF FOUR FORTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS YOU HAVE A FULL CONSENSUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS NEXT PROJECT AGAIN IT'S BECAUSE IN THE WEST THE LAST BIT IS THE LAST ONE AND IT HAS A BUDGET OF SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND AND WE TOOK A DIFFERENT APPROACH. WE SELECTED THE CALL WAS FOR AN ARTIST TO BE PART OF A DESIGN TEAM OR COLONY WEST WHERE THE ARTIST WOULD WORK WITH THE ARCHITECT THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IF THERE WAS AN INTERIOR ARCHITECT OR AN INTERIOR DESIGNER. THE IDEA WAS TO WORK IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAT'S COLLABORATIVELY DONE INSTEAD OF AN ARTIST USING THEIR OWN IDEAS AND BRINGING IT TO THE VENUE. SO THREE SEMIFINALISTS WERE SELECTED. AND THIS IS FOR UNDER THE PORTICO SHARE. THIS IS THE DROP OF VALLEY AREA WHERE WE HAVE ROUND UNDER THE POINT OF CASHIER YOU HAVE AROUND THE AREA WHERE THERE IS A PLACE THAT'S ALREADY PREDETERMINED FOR SIGNIFICANT SCULPTURE MAKING BEGINNING WITH A FOUNTAIN A WATER FEATURE JUST ANYTHING THAT IS REALLY IDEAL FOR THAT LOCATION UNDER THE PORTRAIT YEAR AT THE ENTRANCE WHERE THERE'S A CIRCULAR SO IN WORKING WITH THE WITH THE DESIGN TEAM ONE OF THE CHARGE OF THE ARTIST THAT WOULD BE SELECTED WOULD BE TO COME UP WITH THE DESIGN THAT IS APPROPRIATE PRETTY MUCH FOR THE SITE AND THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED WE AS BETH HAD MENTIONED WERE SHORTLISTED THREE ARTISTS AND THIS IS JUST REPRESENTATION OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE FOR THEM TO ARRIVE AT BEING SHORTLISTED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS. HIS NAME IS MICHAEL TROY. MICHAEL BROWN. YES YES. HE'S BESIDE THE SEMI THREE SEMIFINALISTS. THIS IS ONE THIS IS HIS WORK AND THE OTHER IMAGES HERE ARE ALSO CLOSE TO WHAT HE PRESENTED. MR. MCCALL WAS ANOTHER ONE OF THE SEMIFINALISTS UNFORTUNATELY THE IMAGES THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE CALL TO ARTISTS THE DAY OF ALL THE ARTISTS THE DP EYES WERE SO LOW THE RESOLUTION WOULD NOT BE GOOD. SO WE WENT TO THE WEBSITE OF MR. MCCALL AND THIS IS THE ONLY PIECE THAT I WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE AND FIND THAT WAS CLOSE TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. UNLIKE THE OTHER TWO ORDERS MR. MICHAEL I WANT TO TRY TO DOWN THAT LAST NAME. AGO. THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WORK THAT HE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. THERE'S A COUPLE MORE A COUPLE MORE YEARS. AND THIS IS THE LAST ONE. SO 
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WE LIKE YOUR DIRECTIONS QUESTIONS HOW YOU WISH TO US TO PROCEED. GOD AS MY ONCE AGAIN JUST TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS NOT A SCULPTURE THAT WOULD GO IN ANY WAY. IT'S JUST THE WORK OF THE ARTIST AND WHAT THEY HAVE PRODUCED. 
          AND SO CHOOSING AN ARTIST THAT WE THINK WILL BEST FIT WITH WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT AND WITH THE ENGINEERS OVER COLONY WISE TO COME UP WITH AN APPROPRIATE PIECE FOR THAT AREA WILL BE. YES. AND THEN WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU ONCE THAT PROCESS TAKES PLACE AND THEY DESIGN AND THEN WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW WE'RE SELECTING THAT ARTIST LIKE THE THREE OF THEM GOOD NIGHT. 
          YES. I REALLY LIKE THE WORD ON THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE HERE. IT'S LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PIECES BUT NOW LOOK AT THIS OTHER WORK DIFFERENT DYNAMIC. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION BY SAMIR UNLIKE MR. BROAD YOUR PREFERENCES ZAP ZAP AND IF A THREE YEAR PREFERENCE IS THAT RIGHT. THANK YOU MR. GUY. I'M I'M YOU KNOW I'M NOT AN EXPERT. SO WHAT IS THE VIEW OF ART EXPERTS. WELL I WAS TELLING BETH EARLIER AS PREPARING THE POWERPOINT IT'S INTERESTING HOW ARTISTS CAN PRESENT THEIR BEST SIDE ON THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND THEN ONCE WE GO DEEPER AS I DID IN PREPARING THIS WENT TO HIS WEB SITE PARTICULARLY MR. BROCK AND I SAID I JUST FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE HAD CHOSEN THIS GENTLEMAN HERE AFTER GOING TO HIS WEB SITE AND SEEING REALLY WHAT HE DOES. HE DOES A SMALL NUMBER OF SCULPTURE ELEMENTS BUT MOST OF HIS WORK APPEAR TO BE MORE OF AN URBAN AND URBAN ARTIST. AND IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT AT ALL. SO I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THIS BUT ON AUGUST WE'RE GIVING THANKS MR.. SO. SO IT'S MY SUMMER OR BRA TSAVO. OK. SO YOU WOULD NOT GO WITH BROTH. CORRECT. OK. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. I LIKE ZAVOS WORK. IT DOESN'T LIKE STUFF THAT I'VE SEEN BEFORE BUT MAYBE I LIKE THE LENS HERE. SO THAT WILL BE MY RECOMMENDATION I TOO LIKE SABO. I LIKE HIS. I KNOW A PIECE WHERE IT IS A WATER FEATURE SO THAT WE COULD TIE IN THE ART AND THE WATER FEATURE I THINK WOULD BE GREAT. BUT BETTER TSAVO OH MY GOD YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS WRONG WHILE YOU CAN. 
          I WILL SAY THAT I LIKE THE VIBRANCY OF MR. BARTHES ITEMS. BUT HERE MAYBE THEY COULD FIND HIM SOMEWHERE ELSE IF EVER YOU COME BACK. BUT I THINK THOSE ITEMS ARE WONDERFUL. AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SUCH WONDERFUL INSPIRATION FOR MY PROJECT. 
          BEFORE YOU SAY THAT ONE LAST COMMENT ON THE WHISPERING SWEET ONE JUST AS A TIE AND A WHOLE THING OF HAVING THAT BEAUTIFUL SCULPTURE THEREBY MAKING IT SAWGRASS TO SEE SUNSET POINT PARK'S STRUCTURE IS ALSO BACK AROUND IF WE'RE GONNA GO UP NOB HILL INSPIRATION WAY WITH ALL THE ARTWORK THERE TYING IN WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR YEARS AND ALL OF OUR PLANNING. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUAL ASSISTANCE WITH US. WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE ON THAT NOTE. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE A PLUS FOR THE DOCTOR RIGHT. SO IT IS TEN FIFTY FIVE. LET'S BE BACK HERE AT TEN AFTER A LOVING PLACE. THEN IT'S TIME FOR EVERYBODY. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WE ARE NOW UP TO. ITEM NUMBER THREE AT 10:00. YEAH TWO FOR ONE TWO 
          [3. TO2412 - Amendment to Zoning Code to Allow Medical Marijuana Dispensaries and Pharmacies Within Certain Zoning Districts in the City]
AMENDMENTS TO ZONING CODE TO ALLOW MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES AND PHARMACIES WITHIN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE CITY. A GENTLEMAN NAMED ITEM NUMBER EIGHT 
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SEEING THE ORDINANCE. WE HAVE OUR CANDIDATE ON THE DR. MAXINE KELLY AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY BRIAN SHERMAN PRESENTING THIS MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I JUST WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS MORNING THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE TO THE ORDINANCE OR YOUR REQUEST WHICH IS INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP. I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE SINCE 2016 HE IMMEDIATELY ACTED RIGHT AFTER THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT LEGALIZING MEDICAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA. AND SO WE HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT. FIRST WE INSTITUTED A MORATORIUM AND THEN WE INSTITUTED A BAN. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE WE RATIFIED THAT AND INCLUDED THAT AS A PART OF OUR QUOTE ADOPTION BACK IN JULY 11 2010 18 WHERE WE PROHIBITED DISPENSARIES AS A USE WITHIN THE CITY. SINCE THAT TIME IN APRIL 2009 WE DID AN ONLINE ASIDE. HE WANTED TO SOLICIT JUST COMMUNITY SENTIMENTS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO SEE DISPENSARIES IN THE CITY. AND OVERWHELMINGLY BASED ON THE RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE A PICTURE OF DISPENSARIES IN THE CITY. AND SO WHEN WE PROVIDED YOU WITH THAT UPDATE ON YOUR JUNE 10TH WORKSHOP YOUR ACCESS TO GO BACK AND TO DRAFT LEGISLATION TO PERMIT MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES AS WELL AS PHARMACIES WITHIN THE CITY. SO BRIAN DID A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER A WONDERFUL ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH IN JUST A MOMENT BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT WE JUST WANT TO DISTINGUISH FOR YOU THE AMERICAN MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTERS AND HOW THOSE ARE DISTINGUISHED FROM THE DISPENSARIES. SO THE TREATMENT CENTERS THOSE ARE THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTERS THEY CULTIVATE. THEY'RE THE GROWERS. WE REALLY DON'T REGULATE THEM. WE DON'T ISSUE A LICENSE. THE STATE OF FLORIDA ISSUES THE LICENSE. THERE IS A DISTANCE SEPARATION FOR THE GROWERS. AND SO WE'RE NOT INVOLVED. WE ARE PREEMPTED WHERE THAT IS CONCERNED. THERE IS SOME DISTANCE SEPARATION THAT'S IN THE STATUTE THAT PROTECTS US TO A CERTAIN DEGREE 500 FEET ON SCHOOLS WHETHER IT BE ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SECONDARY SCHOOLS. AND THAT'S IN PLACE IN THE STATUTE. SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GROWERS. HOWEVER THE RETAIL COMPONENT THE GROWERS WHICH ARE THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTERS THEY'VE GOT TO ESTABLISH OR OPERATE A MAXIMUM OF 25 STATE WIDE DISPENSARIES. AND THEN THERE'S A FORMULA THAT'S IN THE STATUTE THAT SPEAKS TO THAT NUMBER GOING UP ONCE THE REGISTRY EXCEEDS 100 THOUSAND QUALIFIED PATIENTS. AND THEN THERE'S SOME WAY ENSURE THAT THERE IS A LAWSUIT WHERE AT LEAST ONE MERRICK MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTER GETS TO HAVE MORE THAN 25 DISPENSARIES. I THINK IT WAS TRULY TRUE. 
          AND AS PART OF THAT SETTLEMENT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT AND AS WELL AS THAT'S WHAT WE PUT HERE THAT IS SUBJECT TO SUNSET ON APRIL 1ST 2020 WHICH IS IN THE STATUTE THAT THAT FORMULA FOR THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DISPENSARIES. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST DISPENSARIES IS GOING TO SUNSET. WE EXPECT THAT TO SUNSET UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE ACTS TO RETAIN THAT. BUT GIVEN THE LAWSUITS REGARDING THE NUMBERS AND AS WELL AS SOME OTHER LAWSUITS WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS LATER IN THE PRESENTATION BEFORE WE EXPECT THAT PROVISION TO SUNSET AND THERE WOULD BE AT THAT TIME NO CAP ON THE NUMBER OF DISPENSARIES FOR EACH OF THE MMT SEASON MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTER. RIGHT. SO SO WE WOULD JUST FOCUS ON THE DISPENSARIES WHICH HAS A RETAIL COMPONENT. SO WE GOT THIS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WEBSITE WE SHARE THIS WITH YOU THE LAST TIME IT'S THE MOST RECENT UPDATE. THEY HAVE NOT UPDATED IT BUT SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR THEY ARE SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE 88 DISPENSARIES THAT ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AT YOUR LEISURE JUST WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED BECAUSE THAT'S IN YOUR BACKUP. AND OF COURSE THERE ARE 14 GROWERS THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND THOSE ARE THE TREATMENT CENTERS THAT YOU SEE LISTED THERE. AND IF WE COULD ADD ALTHOUGH THERE ARE 14 GROWING RIGHT NOW THERE ARE MANY ALREADY APPROVED NUMBERS UP TO OVER THE 30S AS FAR AS THE MMT SEES. BUT AGAIN AS WE TALKED ABOUT THERE'S ANOTHER LAWSUIT WHICH THE CURRENT MODEL THAT THE STATE HAS WAS FOUND TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AS WE SAID BEFORE THIS IS A VERTICAL MODEL WHERE THE STATE GRANTS LICENSES TO ONE COMPANY. THAT COMPANY IS THE MTC. THEY THEN CONTROL THE PROCESS FROM SEA TO SALE. SO FROM THE GROWING PHASE ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND INCLUDING THE RETAIL PHASE IT'S ONE COMPANY THAT UNDER THE CONSTITUTIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS APPROVED WAS FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THAT ORDER IS NOW STATE. IT IS ON APPEAL TO THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT UNLESS THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT ACCEPTS JURISDICTION AND ACTS OTHERWISE THEN THAT ORDER WOULD THEN COME BACK INTO EFFECT AND THEN THIS CURRENT MODEL IS GOING TO BE STILL UNCONSTITUTIONAL. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THESE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT TO ACT OTHERWISE THE SYSTEM WOULD CHANGE TO A HORIZONTAL MARKET WHICH WOULD THEN YOU COULD ALSO AS ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING THAT WOULD BE MORE OF YOUR FREE MARKET THAT IS MORE OF YOUR MIDDLEMAN. THIS IS MORE OF HAVING DIFFERENT COMPANIES TO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THAT AS FAR AS THE THESES ARE 
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CONCERNED. THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO BE LICENSED BY THE STATE BUT THE CURRENT MODEL WOULD BE CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY. ALL RIGHT. WE CONFUSED ENOUGH. NO WE'RE GOOD. 
          SO. SO AS WE DISCUSSED THE LAST TIME WHAT THE STATE CURRENTLY PROVIDES IS THAT MUNICIPALITIES CAN BAN THE DISPENSARIES WHICH WE HAVE DONE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          HOWEVER IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO BAN AND WE CHOOSE TO REGULATE THOSE DISPENSARIES WE MUST REGULATE THEM CONSISTENT WITH PHARMACIES. THE REGULATIONS MUST BE IDENTICAL. I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN JUST A MOMENT. I JUST WANT TO SHARE REAL QUICK. THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT FROM OUR EXISTING CODE WITH A QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON. JOHN SO THIS THIS THIS SLIDE. PRICELINE AND WITH THE ISSUE THAT THAT IS COME FOR THE SUPREME COURT RIGHT NOW ONLY ONE COMPANY HAS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DO EVERYTHING FROM A TO Z. WELL THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE YES BUT THEY CONTROL THEIR PRODUCTS. SO THERE ARE AGAIN ALL THESE DIFFERENT COMPANIES RELOCATED THROUGHOUT THE STATE SO THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING. GRANTED THAT SPECIFIC LICENSE YOU HAVE THAT THE 14 AND UPWARDS I THINK IS ABOUT 32 33 TOTAL APPROVED NOW AND THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT PHASES. AND SO WHEN YOU SEE ONE COMPANY IT'S NOT ONE COMPANIES FOR THE STATE IT'S THE 33 DIFFERENT COMPANIES. BUT YES IN THOSE 33 COMPANIES CONTROL EVERYTHING FROM THE LAND TO THE PRODUCT EVERYTHING BUT TESTING THOSE GO TO INDEPENDENT LABORATORIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROCESSING TO THE TRANSPORTATION TO RETAIL TO DELIVERY CONTROL ALL OF IT. IF I REMEMBER THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THE EMPTY SEATS THEY GET TO OPERATE I ESTABLISH UP TO 25 EACH THEY GET DISPENSARIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. AND THEN BRIAN MENTIONED THAT IT'S GOING TO SUNSET APRIL 2020. BUT YES THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING SO THEY CONTROL THE GROWING AND THEN THEY DISPENSE HOWEVER THEY GET THE LICENSE THEN TO DO THE RETAIL. BUT THEY CONTROL IT ALL. ALL RIGHT. SO ONCE AGAIN SO WE CAN BAN WHICH WE HAVE BEEN JOINED. 
          HOWEVER IF WE CHOOSE TO REGULATE IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REGULATIONS OF PHARMACIES. AND SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT FROM OUR EXISTING CODE WHERE YOU SEE THAT MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES IS LISTED TO WE LISTED IT IN JULY 11 2018 WHEN WE ADOPTED THE NEW LAND BUT NO REGULATIONS. BUT YOU SEE THERE IS NOTHING IN THE COLUMNS BECAUSE AT THE TIME IT WAS PROHIBITED IT STILL IS. SO WE WANTED TO DO THAT. SO THIS IS THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE MAKING. THIS IS OUR TABLE CHART FROM OUR EXISTING CODE TABLE 10 DASH THREE POINT ONE WHICH WE ARE AMENDING. AS YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE LISTING MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES AND AND NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN WE ARE PUT IN THE P FOR PERMITTED BY RIGHT. AND THEN THE E THOSE MEAN ACCESSORY OR INCIDENTAL TO YOUR RETAIL USE. WE HAVE ALSO ENUMERATED PHARMACY BEFORE PHARMACY WAS JUST LUMPED INTO RETAIL. SO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ACTING CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE WE'RE LISTING PHARMACY NOW WE'RE ENUMERATED IT AS IT'S SEPARATE USE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE REGULATE MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY. SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT IT BE ALLOWED BOTH PHARMACY AND MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY IN YOUR END ZONE IN DISTRICT PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN YOUR NAME YOU SEE YOUR AND YOU G IT WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY OR INCIDENTAL TO A RETAIL USE LIKE YOUR CBS YOUR WINN-DIXIE YOUR PUBLIX THOSE PHARMACIES ARE INCIDENTAL TO RETAIL AND RETAIL IS YOUR PRIMARY USE. AND SO THE PHARMACY USE IS NOT YOU KNOW IT'S SUBJECT TO THE RETAIL AND THEN WE'RE PROPOSING THAT IT BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE NC ZONING DISTRICT. SO WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND PHARMACY JUST TO PERMITTED BY RIGHT ZONING DISTRICTS AND WHEN YOU'RE NC AND SO YOU MIGHT ASK WHERE EXACTLY ARE THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS. SO THIS IS A ZONING MAP THAT SHOWS THAT PRIMARILY YOUR AND SEEMS ZONING DESIGNATION IS UNIVERSITY DRIVE ON AROUND THE UP THE HOSPITAL THE HOSPITAL AREA AS WELL AS ON THAT NAB ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO THAT'S PRIMARILY YOUR END YOU END ZONE INDEX DISTRICT AND YOU'RE AND EXCUSE ME YES. LET ME LOOK AT MY MAP BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE END YOU END IS ON MAP. NOW YOU DO HAVE SOME NEW DESIGNATION ON UNIVERSITY AS WELL THAT IS YOUR BURGUNDY BROWNISH COLOR AND THEN YOUR PAYMENT COLOR. THAT'S YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATION. SO YOU DO HAVE SOME UNIVERSITY AS WELL. SO PRIMARILY BASED PERMITTED BY RIGHT DISPENSARIES WILL BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE HOSPITAL AREA WHICH WE THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION AS WELL 
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AS ON THAT NAB WHERE WE DO HAVE SOME MEDICAL OFFICES ON THAT STRIP AS WELL BIRTH RATE BECAUSE THIS WAY THERE MIGHT BE SOME ANSWERS BUT ON SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS EXERCISE THAT WE'RE NOT BY VIRTUE OF PUTTING TOGETHER NEW LEGISLATION MAKING A LOT OF BUSINESS LEGAL NONCONFORMING AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO AT LEAST BE RENDERED ONLY TO BUSINESSES LEGAL NONCONFORMING BY PROPOSING THIS LEGISLATION. THIS IS A LIST OF ALL THE PHARMACIES THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMARACK AS WELL AS A ZONING DESIGNATION AND AS YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED WOULD ONLY RENDER TWO LOCATIONS LEGAL NONCONFORMING WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS THEY WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE. HOWEVER IF THEY CEASE OPERATING FOR 90 DAYS OR SO THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONFORM OR THEY CAN COME IN AND REZONING YOUR PROPERTY TO AN APPROPRIATE ZONE INDUSTRY IN ADDITION TO CHANGING THE USE CHART. WE ALSO AMENDED ARTICLE 6 WHICH IS WHERE WE KEEP ALL OUR DEFINITIONS FOR THE LAND MANDATE BUT IN THE REGULATIONS IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DEFINE ALL USES IN THE CODE AND SO WE DEFINE MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES AS WELL AS PHARMACY. WE ALSO AMENDED SECTION TEN POINT THREE D 15 TO ESTABLISH U SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES. THIS IS A NEW THING THAT WE STARTED DOING WITH THE ADOPTION OF OUR NEW LG R.. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WERE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT ARE FOR CERTAIN USES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PERFORM CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA THAT THEY'RE LOCATED. SO WE'RE DOING THAT WITH THE DISPENSARIES. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART IF YOU LOOK AT MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AND YOUR FOLLOW OVER TO THE VERY END YOU'LL SEE THE SECTION THAT WE'VE INSERTED IN THE CHART ITSELF WHICH MEANS THE USER WILL BE ABLE TO CLICK ON THAT SECTION AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS. THOSE STANDARDS WE TOOK DIRECTLY FROM THE STATUTE. SO THE STANDARDS INCLUDE A DISTANT SEPARATION WHICH A STATUTE ALREADY PROVIDES FOR THE DISPENSARIES CANNOT BE LOCATED CLOSER THAN 500 FEET TO ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ELEMENTARY MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL UNLESS APPROVED BY A CITY COMMISSION ACTION. SO THAT STATUTORY PROVISION WE ALSO LISTED IN THE CODE THE TIME FOR DISPENSING BETWEEN 9:00 P.M. AND 7:00 A.M.. WE ALSO LISTED THAT THEY REQUIRE LICENSE BOTH BY THE STATE AS WELL AS BY THE CITY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO UNLESS ALL THE STANDARD. WE JUST WANTED TO ENUMERATE THOSE THAT WERE IMPORTANT. WE ALSO REFERENCE KIND OF LIKE A CATCH ALL PROVISION. SO WE REFERENCE THAT SECURITY SIGNAGE AND JUST GENERAL CONFORMANCE WITH SECTION 3 8 1 9 8 6 A FLORIDA STATUTE AND IT PROVIDES FOR A SLEW OF PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. IT TALKS ABOUT PACKAGE AND IT TALKS ABOUT SECURITY ALARM AND HOW THEY SHOULD OPERATE HOW THEY SHOULD FUNCTION WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PLACED PRETTY MUCH HOW MANY YES IT TALKS ABOUT SIGNAGE WHERE THE SIGNAGE HAS TO BE EFFECTS IT TALKS ABOUT INTERNET ADVERTISING THERE'S SO MUCH THAT'S IN THE STATUTE THAT WE JUST WANTED TO REFER TO IT IN THE CODE BUT NOT ENUMERATED NECESSARILY IN OUR CODE IN ADDITION TO THOSE AMENDMENTS WERE ALSO AMENDED IN SECTION 10 DASH THREE POINT THREE D 15 DEEP V TO PROVIDE FOR THE REQUIREMENTS OF A BUSINESS LICENSE AS WELL AS THE ASSESSMENT OF THE FEE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THE FEE ASSESSED FOR THE DISPENSARY WILL BE THE SAME AS THE FEE ASSESSED FOR PHARMACY AND I JUST INCLUDED THIS LINE BECAUSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO ASK WHAT ARE THOSE FEES. AND SO THIS IS THE FEES THAT WE CURRENTLY ASSESS. NOW PHARMACY WITH NO RETAIL. SO IF THE DISPENSARY IS COMING IN AND THEY ARE JUST JOINING THE PHARMACY I'M JUST A DISPENSARY WITH NO ADDITIONAL RETAIL THEN THEIR BUSINESS LICENSE FEE WOULD BE ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS IF THEY'RE ASSOCIATED THOUGH WITH SOME KIND OF A RETAIL THAT'S ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TERMS OF RETAIL MERCHANDISE OR LESS YOU'LL SEE THE FEE STRUCTURE CHANGES THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND UNLESS BRIAN WANTS TO TALK ABOUT ANY LESS WE'LL ENTERTAIN YOUR QUESTIONS. I JUST PUT THAT IN THE DEBATE YOU ASKED ME. YEAH. WAS ONE OF THE OTHER CITIES DOING IT JUST PUT IT AFTER THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. YEAH. GOD NO. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YOU BACK. YEAH. SO THAT THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE. HOW DOES IT MIRROR WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IN TERMS OF THEIR REGULATIONS OR OUR CODE. A LOT OF CITIES ARE ALL OVER AS FAR AS SOME OF THE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS ARE THE COMMISSION AND THOSE CITIES HAVE SOME. SOME HAVE TAKEN A DIFFERENT VIEW AS FAR AS THE EXCESSIVE USE OR AS WELL AS INSTITUTING DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS A CALL SPRINGS AND AS WELL AS OTHERS. SO IT'S AS FAR AS ALL OVER WITHOUT SPECIFICALLY GOING EACH THROUGH 
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THE ORDINANCE. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT'S DONE IN GENERAL HOW LIBERAL IS OUR POLICY HOW CONSERVATIVE. I DON'T WANT TO TELL HIM WHERE WERE YOU. WELL AS FAR AS ITS MIRRORS OR WHAT THE STATUTE I THINK THE ONE THAT'S ITSELF IS LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE AS FAR AS BECAUSE AGAIN WE FOLLOW EXACTLY WHAT'S IN THE STATUTE. A LOT OF OTHER CITIES ARE BEING MAYBE MORE LIBERAL AS YOU SAY. AS FAR AS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IT SAYS HERE THAT IN THE STATUTE THAT A CITY MAY NOT PLACE SPECIFIC LIMITS BUT LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF DISPENSING FACILITIES THAT MAY LOCATE WITHIN A COUNTY MUNICIPALITY. WELL A LOT OF OTHER CITIES HAVE INCLUDED OTHER TYPE OF DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE ACTUALLY IN SOME CITIES UNDER LITIGATION SUCH AS THERE'S ONE GOING ON RIGHT NOW BETWEEN MMP FLORIDA WHICH IS MY MAIN CITY MIAMI BEACH BEING INSTITUTED AS ONE HUNDRED TWELVE HUNDRED FOOT DISTANCE REQUIREMENT BETWEEN PHARMACIES AND DISPENSARIES AND THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER LITIGATION ISN'T SEPARATION DISTANCE OPERATION RIGHT. A LOT OF THE OTHER ORDINANCES HAVE NO DISPENSARY IS EITHER CHALLENGING OR LOOKING TO LOCATE IN THOSE CITIES AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LAWSUIT UNLESS AND UNTIL CHALLENGED. THANK YOU. ROSEMARY THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION IS A CURIOSITY QUESTION. IT SAYS HERE. 
          EDUCATION MATERIALS TO QUALIFYING PATIENTS OR THEIR CAREGIVERS EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN IF SOMEONE WHO'S A CAREGIVER FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN HAVE MEDICAL MARIJUANA THEY CAN ALSO HAVE IT. AS FAR AS CAREGIVERS THEY ARE ALLOWED TO POSSESS MEDICAL MARIJUANA FOR THE PATIENTS AND THEIR SPECIAL LICENSING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. THAT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE STATE. OK. RIGHT NOW WE CAN FILL THE PRESCRIPTION FOR THE PURCHASE. YEAH THAT MAKES SENSE RIGHT NOW. MY REAL QUESTION IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE MAP. SUPPOSE YOU COULD GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC IDEA OF WHERE I'M UNIVERSITY. IT'S FROM OUR VERY NORTHERN BOUNDARY ALMOST TO THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY ACROSS FROM THE HOSPITAL. IT'S NOT QUITE TOO MCNABB SO IF YOU SEE WHERE THE BURGUNDY THE BURGUNDY COLOR THAT YOU'RE EMULATING WHERE THE ARROW IS POINTING DIRECTLY IN ON THAT IS SOUTH GATE RIGHT. THAT IS THE VERY NORTHERN BOUNDARIES I FOLLOW ALL THE WAY DOWN AND YOU SEE RED AND THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF THE HOSPITAL. OK. AND THEN ON THAT NOW IT'S PRETTY MUCH FROM PINE ISLAND AND THAT'S THE SAME COLOR TOO. ABOUT UNIVERSITY DRIVE ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND THEN WE HAVE JUST DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CITY LIKE ROCK ISLAND. THERE WAS A BIT OF PINK THAT I JUST IDENTIFIED THAT'S THERE. BUT IT'S A BIT OF PINK. THAT SONG. I JUST WANTED TO IDENTIFY BECAUSE THAT'S NEW AND I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO THE HOSPITAL MAKES SOMEWHAT SENSE ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE. OH I'M SORRY. I WAS TOLD THEY CAN'T HEAR ME AT HOME UNLESS I'M UP CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. THAT WILL POSSIBLY EVOLVE MORE INTO OUR MEDICAL MODEL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE WERE STRATEGIC AND CAREFUL WHEN WE DECIDED ON THE ZONING DESIGNATIONS. WE PRINTED OUT A LIST OF EXISTING PHARMACIES FIRST SO WE CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. AND THAT REALLY HELPED US TO DETERMINE WHICH PHARMACIES WERE OPERATING AS AN ANCILLARY USE TO RETAIL. AND SO ONCE WE SAW THAT WE REALIZED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DESIGNATE MOST OF THOSE PLACES AS A AS OPPOSED TO BE. AND SO TO A CERTAIN DEGREE THAT WILL SOMEWHAT LIMIT AND I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T USE THAT WORD BUT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE THAT'S MAKING IT FINE. EXCUSE ME. DEFINE IT HELPS US RELATIVE TO THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA BECAUSE THEY CANNOT OPERATE FOR THE MOST PART WITH RETAILERS THAT ARE SELLING TOBACCO THAT ARE SELLING ALCOHOL PART. RIGHT. SO WHEN WE DO THE ACCESSORY FOR MOST OF OUR PUBLIX AND OUR WINN-DIXIE IT HELPS US TO REALLY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE CAN THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THEN IN THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES. AND THAT'S SUPPORTED ALSO BY THE STATUTE MS CALLAWAY IS CORRECT AND YOUR CHOICE OF WORDS IS NOT IS NOTED BECAUSE AS WELL AS IT SAYS THAT THE MUNICIPALITY MAY DETERMINE THE CRITERIA FOR THE LOCATION OF APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS THAT DO NOT CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW. SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE ZONING AS FAR AS THE LOCATIONS ARE CONCERNED AND AS WELL AS AS YOU KNOW THE STATUTE DOES SAY THAT THAT THE DISPENSARIES MUST BE REGULATED THE 
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SAME AS PHARMACIES WHICH IS WHY WE'RE BRINGING THESE TOGETHER. OK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER MILTON. THIS IS OLD. OK. NO OTHER COMMENTS. WELL I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. WELL ACTUALLY THE ROCK ISLAND IS ONE THAT YOU HAVE HERE IT'S IN A VERY NORTHERN BOUNDARY. ISN'T THAT WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. UH IS THAT BAILEY THAT'S PRINTED THERE. THAT'S BAILEY AND BAILEY IN ROCK ISLAND. 
          YES YES. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR REGULATIONS. I DON'T PRESUME THAT THAT IN A AND YOU KNOW THAT'S SUPPLEMENTED BY RIGHT. BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING BEING BUILT THERE WHICH MEANS THAT A DISPENSARY WOULD NOT LOCATE THEIR A MEANS THAT THEY CAN'T LOCATE PERSONS APARTMENTS EITHER. ABSOLUTELY. I'M SORRY I I'M VERY BASIC TODAY. THE 500 FEET EVERY TIME A FOOTBALL FIELDS EARLIER 500 FEET IS A FOOTBALL FIELD AND A HALF. WHAT DO WE DO WITH SOME OF THESE SHOPPING PLAZAS. 
          THERE'S ALSO THE 500 FEET. I THINK IT'S TECHNICALLY A FOOTBALL FIELD. TWO THIRDS OF MY FOOTBALL FIELD. IT'S REALLY NOT TOO FAR. I GET THE POINT I'M SAYING. WOW. 
          THINK I MEAN NUMBERS. IT WASN'T EVEN A TINY BIT. OF FOOTBALL YESTERDAY. I'M ON THE. MY CONCERN IS SOME OF THESE SHOPPING PROCESS THAT WE HAVE 500 FEET IS NOT A LOT. WE HAVE THOSE THAT ARE RIGHT THERE. HAVE WE LOOKED AT IT TO SEE WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE SHOPPING PLACES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT. THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THE STORES. SO IF THERE IS A STORE THAT'S LOCATED IN THE PLAZA THEN THE DISTRICT SEPARATION WOULD APPLY. AND SO I'M GOING TO USE THIS ONE EXAMPLE AND I DON'T THINK THEY FIT HERE SO IT'S JUST A WHOLE CLOSET SO TIME LIKE MARKETPLACE FOR EXAMPLE ON THE CORNER OF NOB HILL AND MCNABB. YOU'VE GOT CBS THE CORNER AND YOU HAVE A CHURCH THAT HAS ASSEMBLY AND THEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER DOWN. YOU HAVE EVER HEARD OF SCHOOL SO THE 500 FEET MAYBE YOU CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE OF THE CHURCH ASSEMBLY BUT YOU HAVE IT FOR OK. BECAUSE EVERY CHARTER SCHOOL IS FAR ENOUGH AWAY IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN THAT MEANS THAT THE ABILITY TO HAVE A DISPENSARY GO INTO THAT PLAZA. PROVIDED THEY MEET THE JUST IN SEPARATION THEY HAVE TO GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OR THEY CAN GO AT THE VERY END. YES. PROVIDED YOU ONCE AGAIN. YEAH. 
          THE DISTANCE SEPARATION IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE STATUTE. SO AS BRIAN MENTIONED WE DON'T HAVE THE LATITUDE WHERE THAT IS CONCERNED CAN BE CONSTRUED OF COURSE OF BEING YOU KNOW UNLESS WE WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE BECAUSE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE FACT THAT MAYBE 500 FEET WAS REALLY NOT THOUGHT ABOUT IN CONTEXT WHEN THE NUMBER WAS THROWN OUT. I LEAVE THAT TO THE ATTORNEY AND THE STORE THAT I PAY FOR RIGHT NOW. I SAID THAT IS NOT IN HERE AND I BRING IT UP BETWEEN OUR PLACES OF WORSHIP ASSEMBLY HALLS. AND THEY YOU HAVE SCHOOL PROGRAMS MOST OF THEM I BELIEVE AND WE CAN INQUIRE SPECIFICALLY. BUT IS THAT WHAT'S ALSO CONTEMPLATED IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ELEMENTARY MIDDLE AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS OR ARE THEY NOT BEING CONSIDERED IN THIS. AND THEN DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE DON'T PROTECT THE CHILDREN THE WAY THE STATUTE SUPPOSEDLY CONTEMPLATES THERE AS FAR AS WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS IS WHAT IT SAYS IT SAYS IT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ELEMENTARY MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOLS. SO AS FAR AS THAT THAT'S WHAT THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH WHETHER YOUR QUESTION SAYS IT INVOLVES WHETHER IT BE PAROCHIAL SCHOOLS WHERE THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL YOU KNOW K THROUGH 12 TYPE PROGRAM WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AS FAR AS THE LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE WHICH I THINK WOULD INCLUDE AGAIN THE ELEMENTARY ASPECT OF THAT. BUT AS FAR AS IT DOES NOT INCLUDE PLACES OF WORSHIP IN THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. I'M 
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ALSO THINKING OF SHOPPING PLAZAS I THINK ALONG THESE LINES THAT MIGHT HAVE A BOUTIQUE IN WHEN THEY'RE SHOPPING PLAZAS OR JUST NOT WHEN THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IF I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT. PRIVATE SCHOOL THAT'S SAYS ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SECONDARY BUT IS CONSIDERED ELEMENTARY OR IS IT AN ITEM NOT COVERED BY THE STATES THAT WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP AND SEE THE DEFINITION. I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO OFF ON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE STATUTE RIGHT NOW BUT LOOKING AT IT SAYS ELEMENTARY IF IT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN IT IF IT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF ELEMENTARY THEN IT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDING THE DISTRICT SEPARATION SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IN OTHERS IT MEANS PERMITTED ZONES OR ACCESSORY PERMITTED ZONES BEFORE VOTING ON THIS. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE HERE TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING WORTHY TO BE CONCERNED WITH. WHY. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS AND JUST TRYING TO GET SOME OF THE RECORDS FOR ROUNDS AND A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD AND VERSUS NEIGHBORHOOD MARSHALL MIXED USE COMMERCIAL. WHY ARE WE ALLOWING IT IN MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD SO WE THINK THE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGNATION IS MOST APPROPRIATE. THAT'S A DESIGNATION THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE HOSPITAL. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE SOMEWHAT WORKED BACKWARD. WE PUT IT OUT THE LIST OF PHARMACIES. OUR OBJECTIVE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT RENDERING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF EXISTING PHARMACIES NONCONFORMING BY VIRTUE OF ADOPTING THIS ORDINANCE. AND SO WE CAME OUT WITH ONLY TWO THAT ARE REALLY IMPACTED. BUT OUR OBJECTIVE WAS NOT TO CREATE MORE OF AN ISSUE BY RENDERING 50 PERCENT OF OUR 20 PHARMACIES NONCONFORMING. SO WE WAS VERY STRATEGIC IN MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE PHARMACIES 80 PERCENT ARE STILL OVER 80 PERCENT ARE STILL LEGAL. LEGALLY OPERATIONAL AND ARE NOT IMPACTED BY THIS LEGISLATION SHOULD IT BE ADOPTED. THAT'S VERY RETURNED OVER. 
          COULD YOU DESCRIBE I KNOW I DID READ IT IN HERE. HOW THE 500 FEET IS DEFINED. YES WITHIN THE MARGIN. THE MEASUREMENT IS IN THE ORDINANCE IS FROM THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY TO THE PROCESS PROPERTY BOUNDARY. SO IF YOU'RE IN A PLAZA IT'S FROM THAT WALL THAT IS AT THE END OF THAT THAT CREATES THAT BOUNDARY FOR THAT PROPERTY MEASURE TO THE CLOSEST. YES. AND SO THE WAY IT'S MEASURED IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE. OK I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT. THE PLAZA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW. IF YOU GO FROM THE CBS YOU'RE GOING TO GO CATTY CORNER TO WHERE THE WAS RIGHT. THAT MAKES SENSE. IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT LINE IT'S GRAMMAR. SO I'VE HUNDRED FEET IS NOT EXACTLY A STRAIGHT LINE ALL THE TIME. SO IT WILL BE MEASURED. YEAH. WHICH DIRECTION. OK. THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE PRE-K AND WE TALKED ABOUT RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS. THAT HAS TO BE A CONSIDERATION. I MEAN YOU SAID IT'S NOT DESIGNATED ELEMENTARY SO IT'S NOT WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY. CAN WE GET SOME SORT OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD BE NURSERY SCHOOLS KIDS YOUR KIDS. I AGREE COMPLETELY BUT WE ARE BOUND BY THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ADOPTING LEGISLATION THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE STATUTE PROVIDES. I WOULD AGREE. I MEAN I LOOKED AT CORAL SPRINGS ORDINANCE. 
          THEY INCLUDED CHURCH AND PARK AND SOME OTHER LOCATIONS AND I SUSPECT THAT'S A REST THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO TAKE. BUT OF COURSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH DOING BECAUSE THE STATUTE IS CLEAR AS IT RELATES TO THE DISTRICT SEPARATION. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S UNDER LITIGATION RIGHT NOW WITH MIAMI BEACH WHERE THEY PUT IN THAT 100 WATT REQUIREMENT AS WELL AS ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER LIMITATIONS AS WELL. AS FAR AS THE DISTRICT REQUIREMENT AND THAT IS ONE OF THE CENTRAL POINTS SAYING THAT IT IS HAVING THAT TYPE OF DECENT REQUIREMENT INHERENTLY LIMITS THE NUMBER AND IT'S THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT COMES UP WITH VACATION RENTALS AS FAR AS FREQUENCY DURATION AS WELL AS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE DIFFERENT 
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NUMBERS OR THAT ZONING ISSUE AS FAR AS THE DISTANCE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS FOR VACATION RENTALS THAT SAME ANALYSIS WE'RE APPLYING HERE BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT IN THE QUARTERS THAT THAT SAME ANALYSIS WOULD ALSO APPLY AS FAR AS THE NUMBER IS UNLESS THE LEGISLATURE PROVIDES OTHERWISE. OTHERWISE YOU DO RUN THE RISK OF BEING IN CONFLICT WITH THE STATE STATUTE. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE NURSERY SCHOOLS WE HAVE DAYCARE AND UNDER THE GUIDELINES THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW PEOPLE ATTEMPTED. SO WHAT DO WE DO AS A GOVERNING BODY TO PROTECT THEM WITHOUT PUTTING OURSELVES IN JEOPARDY WITH WHAT THE STATE STANDARD SAYS. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE WE GO WITH THAT BUT KIDS ARE KIDS AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM AT ALL AGES AND LEVELS. YOU KNOW WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. WE ABSOLUTELY ARE. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE. WE'VE HAD A LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND THIS IS WHERE THE DIRECTION WILL COME FROM FROM THE COMMISSION BECAUSE AS FAR AS CONCERNED WE DO HAVE LEGAL CONCERNS OVER PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS AGAIN THAT CONFLICT WITH STATUTE AND EVERYONE ELSE OF COURSE IS GOING TO BE LEGAL AND LAWFUL UNTIL CHALLENGED AND OVERRULED BY THE COURTS AND WE'RE KEEPING APPRISED OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CASES AND CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATION AS THIS ITEM MOVES FORWARD. 
          IT'S THE SAME WAY THAT WE TELL YOU AT EACH AND EVERY STAGE OF PROCEEDING THAT THIS IS STILL ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW. SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES AS THIS GOES FORWARD. ADDITIONALLY WITH ON WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN BALLOT INITIATIVES RIGHT NOW THAT CERTAIN GROUPS ARE TRYING TO GET RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA ON THE BALLOT AS WELL. SO THIS IS EVER CHANGING AND THERE IS NOT A SOLID ANSWER AS FLORIDA DEVELOPS ITS LEGAL AUTHORITY ON THIS PLAYING TO INDUSTRY. AND AGAIN IF I CAN'T GET TO THE VICE MAYOR CHALLENGED THAT AT ANY PUBLIC BODY HAS YOU'RE NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN THAT IS THAT THE STATUTE INTERESTINGLY WHEN I WAS ADOPTED ALLOW FOR A COMPLETE BAN A LAWFUL CONCLUSION ON THE OPENING OF DISPENSARIES IF YOU CHOSE TO NOT BAN THEM WHICH SOME CITIES DID IN SOME CITIES DID NOT. YOU THEN TRANSLATE TRANSLATED YOURSELF OR TRANSMITTED YOURSELF INTO IT INTO THE REALM OF WHAT IS A STATUTE BAN ALLOW FOR. IF YOU IF YOU TRANSITS FROM A COMPLETE BAN TO OPERATIONALIZING THE OPTION YOU THEN ARE SADDLED WITH WHAT THE WHAT THE STATUTE GIVES YOU IN THE CONTEXT OF THOSE OPTIONS AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS ARE NOT WELL THE TIME. NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. THE RISK TOLERANCE OF FOR LITIGATION WHEN YOU BEGIN TO BASICALLY ZONE OUT USES. I MIGHT GO BEYOND THAT CONVERSATION HERE. I'VE BECOME SOMEWHAT QUESTIONABLE IN THE DEFENSE ABILITY OF AN ORDINANCE WHICH WHICH WHICH BY SUBJECT TENDS TO OTHERWISE CLOSE OUT THE OPTIONS IS REALLY JUST ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING A BAN COULD BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HOW YOU DO IT. AND I THINK THE AUDIENCE HAS DRAFTED IT'S VERY DELICATELY DRAFTED TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE STATUTORY OBLIGATION WITH US TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS. GIVEN YOUR TENOR IN YOUR DIRECTION GROUPS AS BEST WE CAN THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO IN ESSENCE YOU DRAFTED THE ORDINANCE TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM LAWSUIT. OK. SO IF THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT CHILDREN IN THESE PLAZAS WE CAN DIRECT YOU TO CHANGE THAT. IT'S WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE INVOLVED IN LAWSUIT. WE WOULDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THEN WE WOULD BRING IT FORWARD AND DEVISE ACCORDINGLY. RIGHT. SO IF YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY. SO. SO THE MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES ARE ONLY FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA RIGHT. CORRECT. THAT'S NOT PRESCRIBED BY A PHYSICIAN. RIGHT. SO IN MY VIEW. AND WHETHER OR NOT AS A NURSERY OR WHATEVER IN THE PLAZA IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE IT CAN BE QUITE DIFFICULT FOR A CHILD TO GET A PRESCRIPTION FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA. CHILDREN CAN ACTUALLY GET ORDERS. WELL I MEAN NOT LEGAL CAN ILLEGALLY OBTAIN ANY DRUGS JUST LIKE JUST AS IT WOULD BE JUST AS TYPICAL FOR A CHILD TO GET LEGAL DRUGS FROM A WALGREENS. IT'S GOT TO BE OVER 18. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO AS FAR AS THE VA THE PROCEDURE WOULD GO TO YOU THAT MIGHT HELP THE COMMISSION THE PROCEDURE FOR A PERSON TO OBTAIN MEDICAL MARIJUANA. AND THEN OF COURSE GO TO A QUALIFIED PHYSICIAN. THAT HAS BEEN LICENSES TAKEN THE THE COURSE AND THEN BE ALLOWED TO ORDER MEDICAL MARIJUANA IT'S NOT A PRESCRIPTION DRUG. THAT'S WHY WE SAY IT WOULDN'T INSTEAD OF PRESCRIBE THEN AT THAT POINT YOU THEN GET ADDED TO THE REGISTRY. YOU MAKE YOUR APPLICATION TO THE REGISTRY WHETHER YOU'RE A CAREGIVER OR WHETHER YOU ARE A PATIENT YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHICH COULD TAKE YOU KNOW GENERALLY ABOUT 30 DAYS ONCE YOU'RE ADDED TO THE REGISTRY AND YOU GET YOUR REGISTRATION CARD WHETHER IT'S TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT CARD. THEN AT THAT POINT THEN YOU CAN GO TO THE DISPENSARIES WHETHER IT BE IN-PERSON OR YOU CAN AGAIN STILL OBTAIN MEDICAL MARIJUANA THROUGH DELIVERY TO ANYWHERE INCLUDING THE CITY OF TAMARACK. SO NOW YOU GO TO THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL 
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RETAIL LOCATION WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE WITH YOUR YOUR ORDER AND WITH YOUR I.D. REGISTRATION CARD YOU THEN ENTER THEN AT THAT POINT SOME OF THE REGULATIONS IN THE STATUTE APPLY AS FAR AS WHERE THE PRODUCT IS ACTUALLY KEPT NOT KEPT OUT IN THE OPEN WHEN YOU CAN TAKE IT OFF A SHELF AND WALK OUT THE FRONT DOOR. 
          YOU THEN GO DO THEM CHECK YOUR ORDER AND THEY CHECK YOUR REGISTRY STATUS AND THEN AT THAT POINT THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS WITH YOU TO THE BEST OF MY UNDERSTANDING THROUGH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OPTIONS AND THIS INFORMATION IS GONE FROM THE DIFFERENT CONFERENCES AND DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE ATTENDED REGARDING MEDICAL MARIJUANA. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE PROCESS GETS. AND SO THIS IS NOT A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT IT'S THE SAME WAY AS FAR SECURITY FEATURES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS LISTED IN THE STATUTE AS FAR AS WALKING IN THE DOOR AND WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AND WHO'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DO FROM THE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS THAT THE APPROVED MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT CENTERS TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY. AND BASED ON YOUR KNOWLEDGE HAS EITHER CBS OR WALGREENS INDICATED WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO CARRY MEDICAL MARIJUANA. I DON'T HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE BUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION TO THE BEST I CAN DO IS NO BECAUSE IT'S STILL ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW. SO AS FAR AS THEIR TRANSACTIONS THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DAY THROUGH CREDIT CARDS OR OTHER TIMES OF THEIR JUST DISTRIBUTION NEVER CROSS INTERSTATE LINES. SO IN THAT EVERYTHING WOULD THEN BE SUBJECT TO FEDERAL LAW AND FEDERAL SEIZURE. AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE GENERAL BIG COMPANIES ARE WILLING TO DO WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE THESE COMPANIES ARE DEVELOPED COMPLETELY INTRASTATE AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THE CONCERNS WHETHER YOU HAVE DIFFERENT BANKING INSTITUTIONS THAT SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS REGARDING ILLEGAL TRANSACTIONS AND I PUT THAT IN QUOTES BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S ONLY LEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW. THERE'S A SORT OF SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY REPORT THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FILL OUT FOR YOUR BANK. THEN THE OTHER PART IS AGAIN A LOT OF THEM ARE CASH TRANSACTIONS BECAUSE THE CREDIT CARD COMPANIES DON'T INVOLVE THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT'S STILL ILLEGAL UNDER FEDERAL LAW. AND ANYTHING THAT MOVES THROUGH FEDERAL COMMERCE WHETHER IT BE EVEN COMPLETELY INTRASTATE SINCE THEIR NETWORK GOES OUT THEY DON'T GO THROUGH THAT. SO IT'S A LONG WINDED ANSWER TO SAY NO IT MAY NOT BE SO TOBACCO PRODUCTS ARE BEING SOLD OR ALCOHOL IN SALES. SO I THINK IT WOULD PRECLUDE SOME OF THE WINN-DIXIE OR PUBLIX CBS WALGREENS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT. YEAH IT FEELS LIKE IT CAN'T BE BASED ON TOBACCO AND ALCOHOL AND YOU CAN'T BE SOLD THOSE PRODUCTS ARE BEING SOLD. 
          RIGHT. AND THEN YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE THE FEDERAL LAW IS IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO PASS OR. ALLOW MEDICAL MARIJUANA NATIONWIDE OR IS IT JUST STATE BY STATE SO FAR STATE BY STATE SO FAR WAS ANYTHING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE A DECISION. I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND SPECIFICALLY LOOK GENERALLY THERE'S USUALLY ONE OR TWO PENDING ITEMS BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE AS TO THOSE ITEMS OR WHERE THEY WOULD BE. ALL RIGHT. THANKS MARY FISHMAN. JUST REAL QUICK I'M A LITTLE DIFFERENT DIRECTION SAID THE VERTICAL MARKET WAS FOUND TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. AND THAT IT WOULD IF IT IF THE LAWSUIT ENDS THERE IT WILL THEN OPEN UP THE FREE MARKET CORRECT. RIGHT. OK. AND CURRENTLY THERE'S ONLY 33 COMPANIES THAT ARE LICENSED TO OPEN UP MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A FREE MARKET THAT MEANS ADDITIONAL COMPANIES WOULD BE ABLE TO DO JUST MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES. CORRECT. RIGHT. 
          OK. THANK YOU JASON SHORT OF FILM FROM THE STATE AS THEY WOULD REDO THE STATUTE BOOK YES. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT POPPED UP THROUGH OTHER QUESTIONS. WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE RESTAURANTS IN THESE PLACES THAT SELL ALCOHOL. HOW DOES THAT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DISPENSING NOTHING. ON TO SAME RETAIL ESTABLISHED THE SAME ESTABLISHMENT. OK. THAT'S IN THE SAME PLAZA SITE. YES YES AS OPPOSED TO A RESTAURANT OR OTHER SO. RIGHT. SO NO DISPENSARY CANNOT ALSO BE SELLING ALCOHOL AND ANY TOBACCO OR ANYTHING. THIS ISN'T AS YOU KNOW THIS IS ONLY THE REGULATION OF THE DISPENSARIES. AS WE STATED BEFORE ANY PATIENT CAN UNDER FLORIDA LAW LAWFULLY OBTAIN AND POSSESS THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA I SEE THAT BECAUSE YOU GET IT. VARIOUS LOCATIONS BUT THERE'S A BAND FROM THE 
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SPREADSHEET YOU GAVE US. YEAH. YES. THERE'S A BAND I 15 CITIES AND IT IS 15 THAT REGULATE IT. YES. RIGHT. SO IT'S IT'S A STRAIGHT DOWN THE LINE. RIGHT. BUT I AM NOT INCLUDING BROWARD COUNTY IS UNINCORPORATED UNDER REVIEW. NO DECISION ITEM BECAUSE IT IS AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S WELL TO AN EXTENT YOU WANT HORMONE YOU CAN BAN IT RIGHT. THAT'S AS FAR AS YOU GO. IF NOT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY WITH THE STATUTE SAYING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE WAY STATE STATUTE WANTS IT UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES AND BE READY TO RISK AT RISK. YEAH LEGALLY CORRECT. YOU CAN FIND THEM AT AMERICAN MISSION. YOU CAN LAWFULLY BAN WHICH HAS A DISCUSSION OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THE STATUTE GIVES YOU THAT LEGAL AUTHORITY. BUT IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO AND YOU HOPE THAT THE STATUTE AND IF YOU VARY FROM IT IN THE CONTEXT OF ALLOWING THE USES FOR DISPENSARIES YOU RUN THE RISK OF BEING CHALLENGED BECAUSE THE STATUTE WITHIN THE BOX IS UNFORTUNATELY VERY LIMITED. YOU KNOW I DON'T MIND CHALLENGES. I HAVE SOME ISSUES WHERE THERE'S INCONSISTENCIES. MY PROBLEM IS THE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE FACT OF WHAT WE MAY HAVE ISSUES WITH WHERE THOSE INCONSISTENCIES LIE. AND I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FIVE HUNDRED FEET OF HUNDRED FEET TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED FEET TO VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH IN OUR CITY JUST GET THROWN OUT THERE WITHOUT ACTUALLY USE IN THE FUTURE FROM HERE AND WITH ACTUAL VISUAL OF WHAT'S MY FIVE HUNDRED FEET IS SEE HOW FAR YOU GET TO CERTAIN THINGS. COURSE 500 FEET IS NOTHING. ALL RIGHT LET'S JUMP IN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS NO. NONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE ITEMS THE LIST OF THE PEOPLE IN THOSE BOXES THAT ARE LIKE WE ARE NOW MOVING TO NUMBER 4. 2 4 0 7. OBSERVE AMENDMENT 
          [4. TO2407 Approve Amendment #2 to the Franchise Agreement with Waste Management Extending Said Agreement Effective October 1, 2020 through September 30, 2023]
NUMBER 2 TO THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT EXTENDING SAID AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1 2020 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30. TWENTY THREE OTHER SERVICES GEORGIA JACKS DRAIN AND BUDGET CONTRACTS MANAGER TROY GUYS. OKAY. NEVER MIND WE'RE GOING WITH PURCHASE RIGHT. YEAH. HE'S GOT NO CHOICE HERE. WE GET TO KEEP BOXES HERE FOR US. PURCHASING AND I'M GOING TO SCRAP THE TITLES AND I'LL LET YOU DO IT WHEN YOU CHOOSE YOUR DUTY. TROY I'M NOT SURE. I UNDERSTAND DO. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. JACK STRAIN PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE PUTTING CONTRACTS MANAGER OKAY SO I THINK FIRST WE'LL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMELINE FOR OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING. EXISTING PROGRAM IN JANUARY THROUGH JULY OF 2009 THE COMMISSION WORKSHOP ON COMPREHENSIVE SOLID WASTE RECYCLING SELECTED PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS. THE CITY AGREES TO EXCLUSIVELY FRANCHISE OUR SOLID WASTE SERVICES AT THAT TIME THROUGH RFP 0 9 DASH 69 DRAFTED AND PUBLISHED A TENDER ONE THROUGH 4 ISSUED AND FIVE SOME MODELS WILL RECEIVE REVIEWED ANALYZED BY THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND THE VALUATION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED WASTE MANAGEMENT. 
          JULY 10TH THROUGH JULY. JANUARY 11TH. WELL 11 WAS AWARD PROCESS ON HOLD FOR SEVEN MONTHS DUE TO LETTERS OF CONCERN FROM WASTE PRO AND ACE WASTE LAWSUIT. 
          ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETINGS HELD TO DISCUSS COMMERCIAL SOLID WASTE SERVICES. CITY RECEIVED A FAVORABLE DECISION FROM DOJ AND FOR THE A.G. MARCH 11 THROUGH JULY 11. 
          RESUME NEGOTIATIONS WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FINAL AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY A COMMISSION ON JULY 13TH 2011. SO WASTE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND PERFORMANCE WASTE MANAGEMENT BEGAN RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE IN RECYCLING SERVICES ON OCTOBER 1 2011 AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO APPROVED ON MAY 9TH 2012 ESTABLISHING THE RECYCLING INCENTIVE 
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PROGRAM RECYCLE BANK EXCLUSIVES COMMERCIAL SOLID WASTE COLLECTION BEGAN ON OCTOBER 28 2013. IN GENERAL THE SERVICE HAS BEEN SATISFACTORY AND COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN FAR BELOW THE LIMITS ESTABLISHED IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT SUMMARY OF CHANGES EXTENDS THE AGREEMENT FOR THREE YEARS EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1 2020 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH 2023. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL EXTENSIONS BEYOND SEPTEMBER 30TH TWO THOUSAND TWENTY THREE IN THE EXISTING AGREEMENT UPDATE SECTIONS REGARDING SCRUTINIZE COUNTRIES AND PUBLIC RECORDS AS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTES AND INFLUENCED THE CLEAN TAMARA ACT PROGRAM CLEAN TAMARACK PROGRAM. EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1 2020 THE CITY WILL IMPLEMENT THE CLEAN TAMARA PROGRAM TARGETS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WITH OVERLOADED DUMPSTERS OR SOME A FEW PICTURES OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED OVERLOADED TARGETS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES OVERLOAD DANCERS ZERO COST PROGRAMS IN THE CITY WITH SHARED GOAL TO ELIMINATE POTENTIAL HEALTH AND SAFETY HAZARDS DUE TO OVERLOADING CONTAINERS USES A FEE SLASHED CREDIT APPROACH TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO HAVE THE CORRECT LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR VOLUME AND WASTE PRODUCED AND THE SUMMARIZATION OF THE CLEAN PROGRAM IS THAT COMMUNITY AESTHETICS AND PRIDE START WITH A WELL MAINTAINED AND PROPER USE OF WASTE AND RECYCLING CONTAINERS LITTER PROGRAM IDENTIFIES OVERFLOWING BINS AND ILLEGAL DUMPING AROUND YOUR BUSINESSES THAT MAKE THE UNSIGHTLY AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION PREVENTS STORMWATER RUNOFF AS IT RELATES TO TRASH IDENTIFY RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE DIVERSION AND PARTICIPATE AND PREVENT SCAVENGING ANIMALS. AVOID OVERAGE SERVICE THE SERVICE OVERAGE CHARGE OF ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS WILL BE ADDED TO THE CUSTOMER'S INVOICE IF THE LID OF THEIR CONTAINER IS OPEN 10 INCHES OR MORE WITH THE EXCESS OF MATERIAL. THE CUSTOMER WILL RECEIVE A CREDIT BACK FOR THE OVERAGE CHARGE IF THEY RIGHT SIZE THEIR SERVICE TO CORRECT THIS PROBLEM NOTICE WASTE MANAGEMENT DRIVERS ONBOARD COMPUTERS TO TAKE ORIGINAL DIGITAL FEATURES THOSE PICTURES THAT WERE SHOWN BEFORE WERE TAKEN FROM ONE OF THEIR TRUCKS WASTE ON TOP OF SURROUNDING OR BLOCKING BACK. IF IT IS SAFE TO DO SO THE DRIVER WILL COLLECT ALL MATERIAL LEAVE THE AREA NEAT AND TIDY. THE CUSTOMER RECEIVED A NOTICE THAT A TRASH BIN IS OVERFLOWING AND SERVICE OVERAGE CHARGE WILL BE ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS WILL BE APPLIED TO THAT CHANGE IN SERVICE. THE CITY WILL BE THE FINAL ARBITRATOR AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE DISPUTE ARISES FROM ANY KIND OF CHARGE I.E. MAYBE THE CUSTOMER THE CUSTOMER IS GOING TO SAY I DIDN'T PUT THAT THERE SOMEBODY ELSE ILLEGALLY DUMPED IT OR WHATEVER AND SO WE WOULD ULTIMATELY BE THE ARBITRATOR OF A DECISION THAT WOULD NOT BE LEFT UP TO WASTE MANAGER CONSEQUENCES AND CONSIDERATIONS. OH ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. CURRENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES WASTE MANAGEMENT OF GARBAGE AND RECYCLING CARTS WHILE SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY REZ HOLD SOLID WASTE DRESSES THAT COULD AFFECT THE COLLECTIVE POWER AND INFLUENCE OF REGIONAL SOLID WASTE. YOU THAT YOU SUPPORTED YOUR RESOLUTION ON AUG. 20 A PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR THIS TYPE OF SERVICE CAN BE EXTREMELY LENGTHY AND WOULD REQUIRE NO LESS THAN 12 MONTHS AND POSSIBLY UP TO 18 MONTHS TO PROPERLY EXECUTE WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS SATISFACTORILY MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE EXISTING AGREED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER FISHMAN THE CLEAN PROGRAM. I KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS FOR COMMERCIAL BUT IS THAT. ALSO OPEN TO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THEY'RE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL. IF THERE IS A NATIONAL CUSTOMER THERE. THIS IS PART OF THEIR PROGRAM. THEY WILL BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM. IT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW WITH A CLEAN PROGRAM. JUST LOOKING AT THAT IMAGE OF THE SLOPPY CONTAINER IS WASTE MAN. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE BUSINESSES WITH ADDITIONAL CONTAINERS. IF THE ONE CONTAINER IS NOT ENOUGH. YES THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IS TO INCENTIVIZE THEM IN THAT ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLAR FEE BUT THEY ASSESS BECAUSE THEY HAD TO GO AND GET OUT OF THEIR TRUCK BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO IN THERE LIKE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET OUT THEIR TRUCK AT ALL. THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO RIGHT SERVICING TO MAYBE ENLARGE FROM 4 TO 5 CUBIC YARD OR WHATEVER SIZE THAT'S OR MAYBE MORE 
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FREQUENT PICKUPS. THERE'S MANY WAYS TO SKIN A CAT SO TO SPEAK SO DOES THE BUSINESS DOES THE BUSINESS PAY FOR MORE FREQUENT GIFTS. YEAH. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A COST INVOLVED BUT I MEAN IT'S RIGHT SIZING YOUR SERVICE SO THAT. RIGHT. AND THEN I KNOW SOME SOME IN THE BACK OF SOME BUSINESSES. THERE'S ONLY ROOM FOR ONE CART. SO IN THAT CASE THEY WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THEIR. YEAH. THEY MIGHT GO FROM ONCE WEEKLY TO TWICE WEEKLY. GOING BACK TO THE AWARDED THE CONTRACT. WHAT HAPPENED WHERE THIS WAS PUT ON HOLD. WHAT WERE THEY WHAT WERE THE CLAIMS OF WASTE PRO AND ACE I GUESS THEY DID THE SAME CAN ALSO MAKE THAT OR THEY DID NOT FEEL THAT THE RFP PROCESS WAS WAS FAIR OR WHAT HAPPENED HERE. I'LL DEFER TO THE LEGAL ANALYSIS BUT I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE GLOBAL OPERATIONAL SIDE OF WHAT HAPPENED AND GIVE IT A LITTLE SOLUTION. WELL BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IS WAS ACTUALLY THE CONCERN WITH THE SMALL WASTE HAULERS AND THE COMMERCIAL HAULING THAT WE HAD THERE. THERE'S A STATE STATUTE I DON'T REMEMBER THE STAND YOU PROBABLY KNOW THE STATUTE NO BETTER THAN I. 
          SOMEWHERE IN THERE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THIS TO PROVIDE A NOTICE TO OTHER COMMERCIAL WASTE HAULERS THAT HAVE FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS WITHIN THE AREA. AND I BELIEVE THIS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT'S BEEN A WHILE BUT THE THE SUBMISSION OF THE. WE WERE BASICALLY THAT WE HAD NOT PROVIDED ADEQUATE NOTICE WHAT HAD ACTUALLY HAPPENED. HOWEVER WITH WE HAD ACTUALLY PASSED AN ORDINANCE THE YEAR BEFORE WHICH PROVIDED NOTICE AND SO IT WAS I THINK YOU THINK IT WAS REQUIRING TWO YEARS NOTICE. 
          AND SO WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO IS FINALLY RESOLVE THE SUIT WAS TO JUST WAIT AN ADDITIONAL YEAR BEFORE WE ACTUALLY STARTED WITH THE COMMERCIAL WEIGHT ARMY PICKUPS AND LET LET THAT NOTICE PROVISION TAKE ITS COURSE. AND ONCE ONCE WE GOT THROUGH THAT THEN WE ACTUALLY WE SORT OF DELAYED THE START UP OF THE RESIDENTIAL START BY NO. I NOTICE THAT WE CARRIED ON THE SIDE OF CONSERVANCY SAID LISTEN WE'RE GONNA DELAY THE COMMERCIAL IMPLEMENTATION AND TWO YEARS AND THEN THAT ACTED AS IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT FOR A MINUTE. MIKE WAS THERE THE OTHER WAY IF I COULD. IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY OF YOU WERE ACTUALLY ON THE CITY COMMISSION WHEN WE ENDEAVOURED TO CONSOLIDATE THIS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT. IT WAS LIKE 13 YEARS AGO 12 YEARS AGO IF YOU KEITH OR JACK COULD JUST GIVE THE COMMISSION A LITTLE HISTORY OF WHERE WE WERE PRIOR TO THE CONSOLIDATION THE NUMBER OF FRANCHISE HAULERS AND SO ON. NOW WHAT WE ENDEAVOR TO DO WHEN WE CONSOLIDATED THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COMMISSIONERS WE HAD ONE VENDOR FOR A RESIDENTIAL SERVICE FOR COMMERCIAL. I THINK WE HAD LEASED SIX MY SEVEN KNOW AT LEAST 16 YEAR SIX SIX PLUS THAT THEY WERE COMPETING WE JUST ALLOWED THEM TO USE THE FREE MARKET. THEY HAD TO REGISTER RIGHT WITH US TO OPERATE AND WE HAD TO AUTHORIZE THAT BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE AUTHORITY ONCE THEY REGISTERED TO FIND ANY COMMERCIAL FOR A COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER WITHIN THE CITY FATHERS IN THAT GROUP AS WELL. SO. ONCE WE HIRED A CONSULTANT ON TO GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION TO HELP US PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE THEY RECOMMENDED NO PUTTING THE COMMERCIAL IN WITH THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE YOU GET A BETTER PACKAGE OVERALL FOR ALL YOUR SERVICES IF YOU BUNDLE IT RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WENT BASICALLY OR AT LEAST THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME DECIDED TO GO ALONG WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CONSULTANT AT THE TIME AND SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT TYPE OF PACKAGE WHEN WE DID THAT. THE YOU KNOW THE DISAGREEMENT ABOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE CAME UP AND SAID ALL RIGHT THAT'S WHY WE IMPLEMENTED THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY YOU KNOW. SINGLE VENDOR. AND WE BASICALLY GAVE A TWO YEAR PERIOD FOR THE COMMERCIAL OPERATORS SO THAT ALL THE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES WOULD HAVE TIME TO READJUST AND THE OTHER TIMES OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND GET OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND THEN GO 0 1 SIGN UP WITH THE WASTE MANAGEMENT AT THE END OF TWENTY FOUR AND A ACTUALLY BASICALLY REQUIRES THAT HAVE THAT TWO YEAR NOTICE IF WE DISPLACE FIRMS THAT WERE IN OUR FREE MARKET TYPE OF CONDITION. HOW MANY HOW MANY. APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY BUSINESSES DO WE HAVE. THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS ZERO COST CLEAN PROGRAM CLEAN. SO WE GOT A COMPLAINT FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT SAYING WE HAVE X NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN MY BACK POCKET LIKE I 
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THEY SHOWED US PICTURES OF PROBABLY AT LEAST KNOW SEVEN OR EIGHT INSTANCES. BUT IT COULD BE YOU KNOW. AN ODD CIRCUMSTANCE THAT MIGHT HAVE CAUSED THAT ONE OCCASION. 
          AND SO OBVIOUSLY A VENDOR WOULD WOULD I MEAN THE CUSTOMER WOULD NOT ADJUST THEIR WHOLE PROGRAM BECAUSE OF ONE ODD TYPE OF SITUATION MAYBE THEY HAD ONE OF THEIR TENANTS MOVE IN AND SO THEY BROUGHT IN ALL KINDS OF BOXES AND STUFF AND THEY SHOULD HAVE PROPERLY DISPOSED THEM BUT THEY DECIDED TO THROW THEM YOU KNOW SO. SO THAT WOULDN'T YOU WOULDN'T ADJUST YOUR WHOLE OPERATION FOR THAT. IT WOULD BE REPEAT OFFENDERS. OKAY. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW ANY KIND OF SITUATION LIKE THIS IF THE CUSTOMER FEELS THAT IT WAS SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTROL THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO APPEAL AND THE CITY WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE ARBITER. WE WOULD ASSUME THAT THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED NEED TO BE ADJUSTED BECAUSE THEY HAVE UNDERSIZED THEIR SERVICE AND IT'S NOT ADEQUATE SERVICE. ALL RIGHT. DO WE. DOES WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVING RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS REGARDING THEIR SERVICE. HOW DO WE HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THEY'VE MET THEM THAT THEY'RE SATISFYING THEIR REQUIREMENTS THE REASON WHY I ASK BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WASTE MANAGEMENT REQUIRES THAT YOU PUT YOUR TRASH LEASE RESIDENTIAL INSIDE THE BIN. I'M GOING TO PICK UP THE BIN ONLY SO I IMAGINE I'VE SEEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE PUT TRASH OUTSIDE THE BIN AND EXPECT THEM TO PICK THAT UP. I IMAGINE THEY WOULD CALL AND COMPLAIN SAYING YOU KNOW THEY DO A GOOD JOB WHEN REALLY IT'S THE RESIDENTS THAT PUT THE TRASH IN THE BIN BECAUSE IT'S LESS EFFICIENT FOR THE DRIVER THAT GOT THE TRUCK AND PICK UP X LESS TRASH. SO DO WE FILTER OUT REAL COMPLAINTS. VOICES YES THOSE COMPLAINTS. 
          EACH COMPLAINT WE GET WE REACT. OK. AND IF IT'S A SITUATION WHERE THE CUSTOMER IS MISUSING THE SYSTEM RIGHT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO RED TAG SO THEY DON'T PICK IT UP BECAUSE IT'S NOT PUT OUT PROPERLY SMILE FOR INSTANCE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT A RED TAG ON THE PILE EXPLAINING WHY THEY DIDN'T PICK IT UP SPECIFICALLY. ALL RIGHT. OK. I NEED TO CORRECT THIS BEHAVIOR AND WE WE LOOK AT ALL OF THEIR COMPLAINTS OR COMPLAINTS COME IN. THEY HAVE A COMPLAINT REPORT THAT WE CAN GO ON AND ACTUALLY ACCESS AND WE GET COMPLAINTS AND WE SET UP A BASICALLY I HAVE A TRACKING SYSTEM WHERE THEY HAVE A TRACKING SYSTEM THAT'S ALL PART OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT AND WE SET THRESHOLDS THAT IF THEY EXCEEDED SO MANY COMPLAINTS IN A MONTH THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A CORRECTIVE ACTION. AND YOU KNOW BASICALLY THEY HAVE ABIDED BY THAT PROGRAM AND STAYED UNDER THAT COMPLAINT. AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY REACTIVE AND THEY USUALLY TRY AND BE UNDERSTANDING. RIGHT. RIGHT. BUT YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE A HABITUAL JUST LIKE THAT JUST LIKE THE COMMERCIAL ENTITY IF WE HAVE AN OBITUARY OR RESIDENT THAT DOES WRONG THINGS VISUALLY WITH THEIR TRACK THEN THEY'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW NOT PICK THEM UP THEY'RE GOING TO ASK US TO GET INVOLVED ETC. AND TELL THEM THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF ACTION HERE BECAUSE. CAUSING PROBLEMS TO THEIR COLLECTION. IN APRIL MAX IS A PROACTIVE. AND THAT APPLIES TO RESIDENTS AS WELL. YES. OK. WE ASKED THEM TO SEND A SUPERVISOR OUT IF THEY DIDN'T READ TAG AND THEY SAID WELL WE DIDN'T PICK IT UP BECAUSE IF THIS IS OK. THERE'S NO. SO WE'LL SEND SOMEBODY OUT JUST TO DOUBLE CHECK. THERE'S NO RED TAG ON HIM SAYING LISTEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO READ TAG IT SO WE KNOW WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CUSTOMER FRIENDLY WE WANT TO. WE'RE ASSUMING THE CUSTOMER'S CORRECT. RIGHT. BUT WHEN THEY ARE YOU KNOW WE BASICALLY WORK WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. RIGHT. BUT THERE'S WASTE MANAGEMENT POLICY WHERE FOR EXAMPLE THE DRIVER CAN TAKE A PICTURE AND SAY THIS THIS IS ALL THE EXCESS TRASH IT WAS NOT IN THE BIN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN DOING AND SO THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THAT A COMPLAINT IS NOT A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT BECAUSE I MEAN SO IN MY CASE IT WAS MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET BUT THREE OR FOUR BAGS OUTSIDE THE BANK BECAUSE ON HIS PHONE I TOLD WE SHOULD PUT THE TRASH AND SOMEBODY ELSE HAS BEEN HERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T STEP OUT THE TRUCK AND PICK IT UP. RIGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS TAGGED AND SO I KEPT I KEPT HIM FROM CALLING TAMARACK BUT I THINK THERE'S A WAY THEY COULD JUST TAKE A PICTURE AND INSERT THE TIME RECORDS. SO WE I DON'T KNOW IF THE RESIDENTIAL TRUCKS HAVE THE SAME CAMERA ABILITY I WOULD LOVE TO INQUIRE. BUT ON OCCASIONS THEY'LL JUST THE DRIVER GET OUT HE'S NOT THIS KIND OF STUFF HE'LL GET OUT AND PICK THOSE UP AGAIN ON A CASE THAT IF SOMEBODY DOES THAT ON A CONSISTENT BASIS THEN THEY'RE GOING TO THEY SHOULD READ. OK. AND FINALLY FOR KEITH. WHAT SO PLACE IS EXTENDED UNTIL 2023. WHAT'S THE PROJECTED TIME FOR YOU TO START THE OFF PROCESS. WELL WE'D HAVE TO START IT ALMOST RIGHT AWAY. REALLY. OH IT'S A VERY LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS OK. SO THIS IS BETWEEN TWELVE MONTHS AND POSSIBLY 
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18 MONTHS GOING OVER OUR HISTORY. YES IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT TAINTED BECAUSE IT WAS WE HAD TAKEN THE COMMERCIAL ENTITY AND COMBINED IT WHICH WE DIDN'T BUT THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO TO DRAW BACK ON FOR STOCK OF DATA. SO THAT'S WE'RE SAYING. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU NOW. SO IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO RENEW THEN WHICH WE NEED TO KNOW SO WE'LL HAVE TIME TO PROPERLY ALLOW IT. THAT IS THE CASE. 
          RIGHT. WE WANTED TO BE PREPARED. YEAH. SO YOU WOULD GO UP NEXT YEAR OR EARLY 2021 IF YOU DECIDED NOT TO RENEW THIS AS IS WE WOULD START COUNTING 18 MONTHS PRIOR TO 2023. YES. SO YOU WOULD GO OUT AND 20 YEARS WOULD NOT BE TWO YEARS BEFORE. JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE YOU KNOW GIVE US A WHILE YOU KNOW. YEAH AND WE WANT AS MUCH TIME. RIGHT. THERE'S NO SENSE IN PUSHING US UP AGAINST LIFE. YOU KNOW SO WE PROBABLY START 24 MONTHS AND JUST TO THAT BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR IF YOU EXTEND THE AGREEMENT TO 2023 WE WILL GO OUT. ALL RIGHT. NOW TRY TO JUDGE THAT POTENTIAL OUTCOME HERE FOR PROBABLY TWO YEARS BEFORE. JUST TO GIVE US PLENTY OF TIME. 
          JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. RIGHT. OK. THANK YOU. UM I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT COMMENT ABOUT IT'S NOT ONLY AS IT DOES NOT ONLY THAT IT WAS NOT ONLY THE BUSINESSES THAT MISMANAGEMENT WE'LL SEE THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THE OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS. WE ALSO HAVE RESIDENTS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THE OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S ALSO BEEN PART OF THE ISSUE AS WELL. SO FAMOUS BOB I THINK COMMISSIONER FISHMAN BEFORE COMMISSIONER AND THEN COMMISSIONER BUT JUST REAL QUICK. HAVE WE CHECKED WITH ANY OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE RECENTLY DONE AN RFP PROCESS FOR WASTE TO SEE WHAT THEIR TIMEFRAMES HAVE BEEN. NO MR. MAYOR I'M PICKING UP FROM THE COMMISSIONER IT'S BEEN JUST ANNOUNCED. YOU SAID THAT RFP PROCESS WOULD TAKE ABOUT 12 TO 18 MONTHS BUT WOULD YOU AGREE THAT COCONUT CREEK JUST DID THEIR DUE PROCESS SOMETHING LIKE SIX TO SEVEN. I HAVE NO IDEA. I MEAN I DON'T HAVE I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR PROGRAM IS WHETHER INCLUDES COMMERCIAL COLLECTION TOO OR JUST RESIDENTIAL. IT'S JUST YOU KNOW WE'RE JUST USING IT SO IT COULD BE DONE. AND LAST BUT WE'RE JUST BEING PROACTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A PROCESS WE'LL GIVE OURSELVES TIME BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT PROCESS WE GO THROUGH IT COULD BE DONE IN THREE MONTHS MAYBE. BUT IF IT GETS IT HAS TO BE DONE IN 12 AND WE WANT TO HAVE 12 MONTHS TO DO IT THAT'S ALL. 
          YEAH ALSO KNOW IT'S A DREAM IF WE CHANGE CONTRACTORS THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO HAS TO GEAR UP THEY HAVE TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO BUY EQUIPMENT FOR SOMETHING LIKE OUR. WHY AREN'T THEY DOING ALL THE DUMPSTERS AND THAT TOOK ABOUT ALL NEW CONTAMINANTS AND STUFF. I MEAN IT TAKES THREE TO FIVE MONTHS WHEN WE DID THAT JUST THAT PART OF IT ALONE BEFORE WE STARTED THE NEW CONTRACT. WE SAW COMMISSIONER BOLTON IF I MIGHT. WE'RE HERE TODAY A YEAR AND A MONTH IN ADVANCE OF THE EXPIRATION OF THIS AGREEMENT SO THAT IF YOU DESIRE TO PUT THIS OUT FOR ME NOT ONLY WE HAVE ADEQUATE TIME BUT WHOEVER THE SELECTED VENDOR WOULD ALSO HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO GET EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED IN PLACE TO TAKE OVER THE BREAK. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY SOUTHERN. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THEN WHY WE ARE EXECUTING THE AGREEMENT NOW TO EXECUTE AND WON'T GO OUT OR BEDS. OR WILL IT BE BETTER TO GO OUT SEEING WHAT'S OUT THERE BEFORE WE BEFORE WE SIGN THE AGREEMENT. THE AGREEMENT ALLOWS US A THREE YEAR RENEWAL. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. ISSUE THAT THREE OR DO YOU DECIDE NOT TO THE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT DON'T DO THE THREE YEAR RENEWAL 13 MONTHS. WE WILL NOT HAVE A CONTRACT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING. I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE A WHY ARE WE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE ENACTED FOR 13 MONTHS. BECAUSE IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO. WE NEED THE TIME TO START PREPARING AND PUTTING THE PACKAGE TOGETHER TO GO OUT 
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FOR AND HAVE IT READY AND ISSUED AND ADOPTABLE IN THE TIMEFRAME SO THAT WE WILL NOT BE OUTSIDE OF OUR EXISTING CONTRACT WHICH RUNS OUT ON OCTOBER 1 2000 SOMEONE ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN THAT WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT TIME ROCK HAS NOT GONE FOR A BIT SINCE ONE EXPLANATION BECAUSE THEY LEAVE THE ORIGINAL. OF COURSE NONE OF THE MEMBERS THERE. ARE ON THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW OR ON BOARD AT THE TIME WE BASICALLY. MADE AN AGREEMENT TO HAVE A SERVICE DURATION OF THE ORIGINAL 10 YEARS NINE EXCUSE ME NINE AND THEN EXTENDED AUTOMATICALLY WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO RENEW FOR ANOTHER. WELL WE THOUGHT PREVIOUSLY THEY HADN'T GONE OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BIDS FOR THAT SERVICE FOR ONE. IT WAS A LONG TIME. YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER I THINK TOO. 
          TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE DURATION OF THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS ARE TYPICALLY LONG TERM AGREEMENTS BECAUSE WHOEVER THE SELECTED VENDOR IS THEY HAVE TO SINK AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL COSTS UPFRONT IN THE AGREEMENT THEY HAVE TO NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE TO BUY BEANS AND RECYCLE BINS BUT THEY HAVE TO BUY TRUCKS AND THEY HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE. IT'S A CAPITAL INTENSIVE PROCESS UP FRONT FOR THE SELECTED VENDOR. IF YOU CHANGE IF YOU CHANGE VENDORS. SO FOR INSTANCE WHEN WHEN WE SWITCHED TO WASTE MANAGEMENT PART OF THE AGREEMENT WAS THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT I THINK WAS GOING TO USED CNG THEN YOU SEE AND THEY AGREED TO SWITCH THEIR FLEET TO CLEANER BURNING CNG VEHICLES BUT THAT DID TAKE THEM A PERIOD OF TIME TO ACQUIRE THOSE VEHICLES. SO WHOEVER YOUR VENDOR IS THEY THEY NEED TO KNOW THEY NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LEAD TIME TO GET THE STUFF THAT THEY NEED TO GET TO ACTUALLY PERFORM THE DUTY AND THEN THEY NEED A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME THAN WOULD BE TYPICAL WITH OUR AGREEMENTS IN ORDER TO RECOUP THOSE CAPITAL COSTS OVER THE LIFE OF THE AGREEMENT. AND STILL AT THE SAME TIME KEEP THE RATES TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AFFORDABLE AND IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE MARKET. SO IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO SEE A 10 12 15 YEAR AGREEMENT. THAT'S WHY THESE AGREEMENTS ARE LONGER TERM AND THEY'RE STRUCTURED THE WAY THAT THEY'RE STRUCTURED AND THEN AMORTIZE THEIR COSTS OUT. BUT THE OTHER THING IS TO AS YOU KNOW WE BROUGHT. 
          YOU TO YOUR LAST MEETING ABOUT FORMING A NEW GROUP FOR A SOLID WASTE IN THE COUNTY. AND WE FEEL THAT IF THAT IF AND THAT'S A BIG IF THAT DOES GET CREATED THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US SOME LEVERAGE AND THIS RENEWAL WILL TAKE US TO A PERIOD WHERE THAT WHOLE NEW MAYBE OUR B COULD GET CREATED IN A DIFFERENT FORM AND GIVE US SOME LEVERAGE ON HOW WE CONTRACT IN THE FUTURE FOR OUR SERVICE SO THE TIMING SEEMS TO BE RIGHT. WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE MARKET IS CONDUCIVE OR NOT FOR COMPETITION. 
          THAT'S A VERY SUBJECTIVE QUESTION. I DON'T I THINK FROM PURE NUMBERS OF PLAYERS THERE'S NOT AS MANY AS THERE. NOW AS THERE WERE WHEN WE WENT OUT ORIGINALLY BUT I I'M NOT SURE HOW I COULD ANSWER THAT OTHER THAN PURELY BY NUMBERS. THERE WERE A LOT MORE COMPETITORS BACK WHEN WE WENT OUT IN 2011 GETTING SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT. I THINK THAT THERE ARE A GREAT COMPANY I'D SAY 99 PERCENT OF MY RESIDENTS APPRECIATE THEIR SERVICE YOU KNOW JUST TO SEE THAT WE BUT. FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS MORNING I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER COMPANY WHO IS INTERESTED THE SERVICES THAT WE AS MANAGEMENT OFFERS. AND SO I MEAN IT'S BECAUSE I LITERALLY JUST MET IT. IT WOULD BE TOO EARLY TO EVEN TELL WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF WE ARE IF WE ARE IF WE ARE IF WE 
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ARE OFFERING THE COMPANY ITS SERVICES FOR A COMPANY A CONTRACT OF THIS MAGNITUDE I THINK THAT IT IS IT IS RIGHT FOR US TO ALSO LOOK AT OTHER COMPANIES TO VALIDATE OR INVALIDATE WASTE MANAGEMENT'S SERVICE TO. THAT'S NOT A DEFINITIVE STATEMENT. YOU CAN GET INTO A QUESTION AND THEN RESPOND WELL I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF YOU. WELL I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT IT. IF I KIND OF THINK WE'RE WHERE THE COMMISSION IS GOING AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT SERVICE. BUT YOU KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT SERVICES UNTIL YOU GET IT. NOW WE WE WE RENEW CONTRACTS ALL THE TIME WE GET UP NEW CONTRACTORS AND YOU KNOW NO ONE'S EVER COME TO US AND SAID YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT YOU TO HIRE ME BECAUSE I GET REAL CRAPPY SERVICE. THEY ONLY SAY IT'S THE BEST SERVICE. AND WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU HIRE. SO THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER WE WENT OUT TO ANOTHER VENDOR WHETHER WE WOULD GET THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE YES. 
          NO. BUT THE THING IS THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING NOW SAID IF YOU DO GO OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BIDS IT MAY BE MORE COSTLY THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TO RIGHT HERE AS WE KNOW YOU KNOW NO ONE CAN PREDICT PREDICT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS AUTOMATIC. RENEWAL AVAILABLE TO US. WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE TAKE THAT RENEWAL FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF THREE YEARS AND THAT'LL GIVE US TIME TO SET UP AND PROCESS GET A PROCESS TOGETHER SO WE CAN GO OUT BECAUSE WE WILL GO OUT AFTER THAT THREE YEAR PERIOD WHERE COMPETITIVE BIDS AND IT'LL BE A YOU KNOW ANOTHER NINE 10 YEAR. WE REALLY NEED TO SEE WHAT THIS NEW CENTRAL DISTRICT AND WHAT WHAT. YEAH. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT SURE WHETHER THIS DISTRICT GETS CREATED. WHAT KIND OF LEVERAGE THAT MAY CREATE OR MAY NOT. AND SO THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES US TIME TO TO MOVE FORWARD AND PLAN BETTER AND WE WILL DEFINITELY BE GOING OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BIDS ONCE THIS THREE YEAR PERIOD IS ENDED AND WE WE FOUND OUT A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE MADE THE COMPARISON. I REMEMBER ONE COMPANY ATTEMPTED TO TRY TO GET US TO PIGGYBACK A PARTICULAR CONTRACT AND WE ENDED UP LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT AND WE THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE MUCH BETTER PRICING WHERE WE WERE. WE WENT THROUGH AN I'M NOT THAT THE MIX WASN'T THE SAME ABOUT RESIDENTIAL VERSUS MULTI-FAMILY IN THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS TO FIND YOU. 
          EXACTLY. YEAH. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW. LIKE YOU SAID I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE EXPERIENCING YOU KNOW I'M SURE YOU DON'T GET YOU CAN'T COLLECT GARBAGE COMPLAINTS BUT IF YOU HAVE RESIDENTS THAT THEY DON'T WANT I HATE WASTE MANAGEMENT. 
          THEY'RE THE WORST COMPANY EVER AND STUFF THEN YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT SITUATION WHERE WE'D SAY OK WE'RE NOT GETTING SATISFACTORY SERVICE SO WHY SHOULD WE RENEW WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT GIVING US SATISFACTORY SERVICE. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE GETTING SATISFACTORY SERVICE AT LEAST FROM THE COMMENTS THAT WE'RE GETTING DIRECTLY FROM THE CUSTOMERS. AND I DON'T THINK I'M GETTING ANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS FROM YOU AS A GROUP. SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE A A SERVICE THAT YOU KNOW BASICALLY MEETING OUR REQUIREMENTS AND OUR CUSTOMERS ARE HAPPY AND SO WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE RENEW IT FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE WILL GO OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BIDS AND YOU KNOW THE WHOLE PROGRAM WILL BE ON THE TABLE AT THAT TIME BEFORE WASTE MANAGEMENT WAS WASTE NO. REPUBLIC. OH NO. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. WELL IT WAS DONE IT WAS WAY BACK SO IT WAS WASTE MANAGEMENT WAS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AT THAT TIME NO PUBLIC REPUBLIC WAS FOR RESIDENTIAL ONLY. AND WHATEVER IT WAS WAS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE HAD TO HOLLER FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WE HAD A HAULER FOR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN WE HAD 1 7 COMMERCIAL HAULERS WHICH SHALL CARRY. IT WAS A IT WAS A COMPLETE MESS AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT WITH ONE CONTRACT SO EVERYTHING ELSE IS CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL. IT WAS AS I WAS WAS RIGHT. WELL FRANCHISEES LET YOU SEE EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY IS HOW EVERYBODY WISHES TO CORRECT ME. WE HADN'T WE HADN'T AT LEAST NINE HAULERS IF NOT IF NOT MORE. AND IT WAS A MESS. AND IT WAS AND IT HAD BEEN A MESS FOR A LONG TIME AND IT WAS DECIDED THAT IT WAS IN THE BEST INTERESTS 
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OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO CONSOLIDATE IT AND TO GET BETTER RATES FOR POOR PEOPLE WHICH WAS ULTIMATELY WHAT WE DID WAS BETTER RATES AND BETTER SERVICE SO REPUBLIC IS THE LEAST SPENDER SUNRISE AND WE SPRAWL IS IN CORAL SPRINGS. I'M SURE IF YOU ASK THOSE CITIES KNOW THE BEST. GARBAGE COLLECTORS WHOLE WIDE WORLD. WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THERE IS ECONOMICS SCALE WITH THESE COMPANIES. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT. OF COURSE THERE IS ECONOMICS OF SCALE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SO MANY CUSTOMERS AND STUFF. ARE THEY ARE WE AS BIG AS CORAL SPRINGS. NO NO NO. WE'RE NOT AS BIG A PLAYERS CAUSE SPRING I GUESS WE MIGHT GIVE FIRM WHICH IS LOOKING WITH RESPECT TO INCLUDING OUR COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. 
          YES DEFINITELY OUR ECONOMY. BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT WHEN ONE I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE WENT OUT FOR THE WHOLE PACKAGE ORIGINALLY AND COMBINED EVERYTHING BECAUSE THERE WAS ECONOMY OF SCALE BY COMBINING THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL COMMISSIONER WHEN YOU PUT THIS OUT FOR BID I WOULD EXPECT EVERYBODY WHO CAN BID. WELL YEAH EVERYBODY I WILL EXPECT THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BID WILL BE OR AREN'T QUALIFIED TO BID BUT THEY'LL STILL EVERYONE EVERYONE. CERTAINLY EVERYONE WILL BID. BUT THEN THERE WOULD BE NO COMMITMENT TO TAKE ANY OF THE BIDS RIGHT. I MEAN THE OPTION TO RENEW WOULD STILL BE ON BIDS I WOULD SAY YOU'D HAVE TO ASK WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT I WOULD THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR A COMPETITIVE BID THEY WOULD PROBABLY PARTICIPATE IN THE COMPETITIVE BID AND I DON'T. FROM. A STANDPOINT OF PURCHASING I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD GO UP FOR COMPETITIVE BID AND NOT AWARD YOU THAT COMPETITIVE BID. I THINK WE HAVE SOME SORT OF INVESTMENT IN TIME ALONE IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO OUT FOR A PROCESS TO FIND OUT WHAT PRICES ARE AND THEN COME BACK AND ACCEPT A RENEWAL OPTION EVEN IF I THINK I THINK THAT WOULD THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE AN EXPENSIVE PROCESS TO GET TO THAT END. BUT IF YOU WENT UP TO BID AND YOU SAW THAT THERE WERE LOW PRICES ACROSS THE BOARD PERHAPS WITH OTHER CITIES AND YOU LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES ALSO MAKING GETTING SAVINGS AND WITH OUR BID PROCESS YOU SEE THAT WE COULD SEE COULDN'T YOU THEN USE THAT AS LEVERAGE WHEN YOU ARE RENEWING FROM A PURCHASING STANDPOINT. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO RENEW THE GENERAL TREND NOW. WASTE MANAGEMENT WANTS TO LOWER THE PRICE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NO NO. BUT WE CAN'T. FROM A PURCHASING STANDPOINT WE COULD NOT ALLOW FOR THE SAME OR COERCE THEM. SAM CHIME IN HERE. WE'RE AT AUTO SHARE. YES. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. LET'S BE REALLY CAREFUL. PUBLICLY AT THE MOMENT IF WE CAN AND PRIVATELY A MOMENT YOU'VE GOT A CONTRACT WITH A HOLLOW RIGHT NOW. YES THAT'S GOOD FOR. ANOTHER A COUPLE OF YEARS TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO GO BACK TO THE STREET AND REOPEN THE CONVERSATION THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. WHILE THE CONTRACT IS PENDING TO BE MINDFUL THAT YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU PLAY THE CURRENT VENDOR OFF THE STREET BECAUSE IT'S FREE MAY TELL YOU THAT THE PRICES ARE HIGHER OR THEY COULD BE LOWER SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN BUT THE ISSUE IS HOW YOU PHRASE THE THE ACTUAL COMPETITIVE SELECTION IN WHICH YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR AND I'M SURE YOU CAN FIND THAT THIS MORNING BUT THIS CITY WOULD NEVER AND HAS NEVER IN MY EXPERIENCE SOUGHT TO COMPROMISE EXISTING CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS OR TO PAY OUT CONTRACT RIGHT. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THIS DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER BALKANS WAS GOING THROUGH ITS OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES GOING FORWARD AND IF WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND PRICES WERE HIGHER THERE'S NO OBLIGATION ON WASTE MANAGEMENT TO CONTINUE. BASICALLY YOU CAN SAY YEAH WELL YOU KNOW WHAT. NICE TRY. WE'LL GIVE YOU ARE ALL THERE. THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THAT AND THEY'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS. AND THE OPTION OF US REDOING PROBABLY NOT STILL HERE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THAT'S A LEGITIMATE OPERATIONAL ISSUE WHICH I CAN'T ANSWER. BUT I KNOW AND EXPERIENCE DICTATES BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. YEAH. I'M GUESSING IT'S TO US TOO IT'S A TWO PARTY IT'S A TWO PARTY DECISION. BOTH PARTIES HAVE EQUAL RIGHT LEVERAGE. WHETHER OR NOT WE RENEW OR WE DON'T I MAKE A VERSION GO. SO WE TALKED 
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ABOUT LEVERAGE WITH THIS NEW DISTRICT. WHAT WHAT DO YOU FORESEE HAPPENING WITH THIS POTENTIAL GUEST JOINING A MULTIPLE SEASON AND COMING UP WITH AN AGREEMENT. 
          WELL AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ECONOMIES OF SCALE. IF WE HAVE A GROUP OF AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CITIES. LET'S SAY 20. YOU HAVE 20 CITIES. IF WE WANT TO BAND TOGETHER AND POSSIBLY GO OUT WHICH THEY HAD DONE PREVIOUSLY INSTEAD OF SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND WE'VE GOT TWO MILLION. RIGHT. SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME LEVERAGE IS THERE. AND THIS IS ALL SUPPOSITIONS. GOD KNOWS IF THEY DON'T YET PUT TOGETHER WHETHER WE CAN ALL AGREE AND STOP BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE OUGHT TO GIVE IT A GO. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE OUGHT TO GIVE IT A CHANCE BUT LET'S JUST BE CLEAR THOUGH THAT THIS IS THIS IS YOU KNOW. HAULING A SOLID WASTE. AND THE M.O. YOU DEALS WITH DISPOSAL OF SOLID WASTE. AND SO THE THE THE PRICES FOR THE HAULING ARE CONTINGENT UPON THE COSTS FOR DISPOSAL. AND SO IF THERE ARE MORE OPTIONS FOR DISPOSAL THERE ARE THERE ARE IN THEORY MORE COMPETITIVE PRICING ON ON THE HAULING. RIGHT NOW THE ONLY OUR ONLY OPTION FOR DISPOSAL IS WASTE MANAGEMENT. THEY ARE THE ONLY REALLY THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN WHICH IS WHY THE COUNTY IS REALLY TRYING TO SPEARHEAD THIS THIS EFFORT WITH THE CITIES TO CREATE A SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL DISTRICT OF SOME SORT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER COUNTIES AROUND US THEY HAVE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A BETTER MODEL FOR DISPOSAL OF SOLID WASTE. WE DON'T HAVE A MODEL. WE KIND OF THREW THAT OUT THE WINDOW YOU KNOW YEARS AGO AND IT'S BEEN A FREE FOR ALL EVER SINCE. WHICH IS WHY WE THINK THAT THE DISPOSAL PICTURE IS GOING TO CLEAR ITSELF UP SOONER THAN LATER AND WHEN IT DOES WE'LL HAVE BETTER OPTIONS AS FAR AS I THINK THE PRICING BECAUSE OF THE DISPOSAL OPTIONS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST ANOTHER TWO YEARS IF NOT MORE. AND THE REALITY IS THIS THIS EXTENSION MAY NOT GET US THROUGH TO THAT. OK. BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE HORIZON AND I BELIEVE THAT CITIES AT LEAST ARE COMMITTED TO COMING UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION FOR DISPOSAL THAN THE ONE THAT WE HAVE NOW. AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT INTEREST AT THE COUNTY LEVEL IN CREATING SOMETHING THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY COUNTY CONTROL AS IT WAS PERCEIVED TO HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. AND SO THERE'S MORE INTEREST IN MORE CITIES I THINK SIGNED ON TO THE AMONG YOU THAT ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN THE RB BACK IN THE DAY. AND SO I THINK THAT THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY RECOGNIZED THAT WE NEED A BETTER DISPOSAL. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DISPOSAL TODAY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COLLECTION AND HAULING. BUT IT YOU KNOW THEY ARE INTERTWINED. YES. SO DOES WASTE MANAGEMENT HAVE AN ADVANTAGE FROM AS COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMPETITORS ACCESS INTO THE FACILITY THEY HAVE IN POMPANO AND YOU WILL SEE OTHER GARBAGE TRUCK COMPANIES GOING TO THAT FACILITY TO MAKE I GUESS DROP OFFS. WHAT'S THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH SOME OF THE OTHER GARBAGE TRUCK DOLLARS. IT DEPENDS ON THE HAULAGE CONTRACT. YOU KNOW OUR ORIGINAL CONTRACT I SPOKE TO DISPOSE OF WITHIN BROWARD COUNTY OR WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS. AND IF ALL OF A SUDDEN LET'S SAY THE THE INCINERATOR GETS SHUT DOWN I'LL HAVE TO GO OUT OF COUNTY. THEN THERE WOULD BE A LONGER DISTANCE TO HAUL AND DISPOSE OF THAT THAT WOULD DIRECTLY AFFECT YOUR YOUR DISPOSAL COSTS AND STUFF. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE TAKING YOU KNOW COMPETITORS SHIPPING AND PROCESSING MONEY. I ASSUME WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO BUT THEY ARE A PRIVATE ENTITY. I DON'T CONTROL THEM SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO GO IN THE FUTURE BUT I THINK MIKE WAS KIND OF SPEAKING TO THAT IF WE WORKED TOGETHER AS A GROUP OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK OUT A SOLUTION THAT WILL BETTER PROTECT US IN THE LONG RANGE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW 10 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR A DISPOSAL SITE. SO SO IS IT THE GOAL OF ACCOUNTING TO CREATE A DISPOSAL SITE TO COMPETE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT OR DO I JUST HAVE ANOTHER OPTION. I THINK OPTIONS YEAH. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A PLAN RIGHT. WE DON'T NAME A GROUP YET BUT ONCE THE GROUP GETS TOGETHER YOU KNOW THEY'LL OBVIOUSLY COME UP WITH A PLAN AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT 
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WOULD BE CERTAINLY ONE OF THEIR MAJOR THINGS TO BE CONCERNED WITH IS WHERE ARE WE GOING TO DISPOSE OF OUR TRASH FOR THE NEXT 30. OKAY. I MEAN WHAT'S THE DOLLAR VALUE OF THE CONTRACT. WELL WE SPENT I THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR THEM TO GO. OVER HERE. YEAH RIGHT. THANKS JUST. JUST TO JUST TO MAKE YOU A GENERAL STATEMENT. 
          THERE'S NOT A LOT OF QUESTION A STATEMENT. I MEAN I KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE UNSCRUPULOUS PEOPLE AROUND TO TWIST MY DESTINY TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT ALREADY COME TO TO SUMMARIZE THERE IS A REPUBLIC TO CORAL SPRINGS. THERE IS WAS FROM THE TIME THERE IS WASTE MANAGEMENT. IT'S NEVER CROSSED MY MIND TO SWITCH FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT EVER UNTIL TODAY UNTIL THIS MORNING ABOUT 950 JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU KNOW AND SO I SAY THAT PUBLICLY BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS ALWAYS KNOWN TO BE FAIR AND TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE TABLE AT LEAST TO BE HEARD. AND SO I THINK THAT IT'S THAT IS MY PREROGATIVE. AT LEAST ARE HEARD AND AT LEAST THE COMMISSION MAKES THEIR DECISIONS. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO LOCK PEOPLE OUT OF THE DISCUSSION. THAT IS WHY THE QUESTIONS CAME UP. YOU KNOW I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE SO THAT NOBODY THINKS THAT IS AND THE UNDERCOVER PLAN GOING THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO NUMBER FIVE. TR 1 3 3 3 3 APPROVE. 
          [5. TR13333 - Approve Change Order for Additional Costs Above Contingency for WTP Wells 10-13 Project]
CHANGE ORDER FOR ADDITIONAL COSTS ABOVE CONTINGENCY FOR WTOP WHILE 10 THROUGH 13 PROJECT ITEM NUMBER 6 A ON CONSENTS AGENDA THANK YOU JACK. APPRECIATE IT. OK JACK STRAIN PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR KEITH GLASS PURCHASING CONTRACTS MANAGER OK SO BASICALLY THIS PROJECT IS FOR REHABILITATION OF OUR. WATER WELLS A GROUP OF FOUR WATER WELLS. THESE WELLS IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PLAN THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE. HIGHLIGHTED AND SURROUNDED OR FRAMED IN RED. THESE ARE KIND OF AN ODDITY OF ALL OF OUR WELLS. OTHER WELLS ARE ABOVE GROUND WELLS. THESE ARE ACTUALLY IN PITS. WHERE THEY'RE GOT A CONCRETE PIT THAT'S PROBABLY EIGHT FEET DEEP OR SO AND NOW THE EQUIPMENT IS DOWN INSIDE THE PIT. NOW OBVIOUSLY THIS THESE WERE BUILT YOU KNOW 30 40 YEARS AGO BACK WHEN NOBODY THOUGHT ABOUT OK WHAT IF YOU HAVE FLOOD WATERS. IF YOU'VE GOT A WELL THAT'S BELOW NORMAL ELEVATION IF THERE'S ANY FLOODWATERS AT ALL THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM. AND SO PART OF OUR PROGRAM OF REHABBING OUR WELLS IS TO RAISE ALL OF THE WELLS ABOVE 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE. WELL THESE OBVIOUSLY ARE CANDIDATES THAT NEEDED TO BE RAISED ABOVE THE 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE BECAUSE THEY WERE BELOW GROUND AND BECAUSE THEY WERE BELOW GROUND THEY REQUIRED A SPECIAL DESIGN BEFORE WE WENT OUT TO BID ALL THE OTHERS WERE PRETTY MUCH OKAY. WE WANT OUR FLAG. WE WANT TO PUT SUBMERSIBLE PUMPS IN AND WE WANT TO RAISE OUR FLANGE ABOVE 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE THEY'RE FAIRLY SIMPLE BUT THESE ARE QUITE COMPLICATED. 
          [02:55:01]
JUST AS A PREFACE TO THIS WHOLE PROGRAM. SO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT HAS 19 FUNCTIONAL WHILE LONG WELLS. KNOW WHY WE READ IT OR WHEN THE CITY BEGAN THE PROGRAM OF CONVERTING OUR RAW WATER WELLS FROM VERTICAL TURBINES WHICH IS BASICALLY THE MOTOR IS ABOVE THE GROUND TO A SUBMERSIBLE PUMP WHICH ACTUALLY IS DOWN IN THE WATER ACTUALLY AND WHICH HELPS US ONE FOR NOISE THE MOTOR IS NOW UNDERWATER. SO YOU DON'T HEAR IT. SO SOME OF THESE WELLS ARE IN RESIDENTIAL OR CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND SO THAT OBVIOUSLY NEEDED FOR MORE QUIET OPERATION. AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN THESE WELLS WERE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED SUBMERSIBLE PUMPS WERE NOT AN OPTION. TECHNOLOGY HAS ADVANCED AND THEY ARE NOW AND SO THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO GO TO THE CELESTIAL PUMP OPTION. THEY'RE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND LESS LIKELY TO BREAK DOWN FROM COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT COMPLETED IN ISSUED A SANITARY SURVEY OF THE WATER PLAN IN 2015 AND IDENTIFIED WHAT PUMPS WHICH WERE NOT ELEVATED ABOVE THE 100 YEAR FLOOD LEVELS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. THE FOUR WELLS ARE BEING MODIFIED AS FOLLOWS RECONFIGURATION OF ALL WELL EQUIPMENT FROM UNDERGROUND VAULTS AS I SPOKE BEFORE THE ABOVEGROUND CONVERTS THE EXISTING DEMING VERTICAL PUMPS TO SUBMERSIBLE PUMPS REPLACES ALL WELL MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL AND CONTROL EQUIPMENT AND RAISES THE DISCHARGE PIPE TO ABOVE THE 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DESIGN. OH I'M NOT SHAMING SCIENCE OUTSIDE FOR A SECOND. FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE DIRECTION THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DISPLAY THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW. NOW I HAVE ONE MORE ONE MORE. HERE WE GO. I'M ALL MESSED UP. I WAS ON A ROLL. BOY. OK SO THAT THE CONTRACT SALARY THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED THE AGREEMENT WITH FLORIDA DESIGN AND DRILLING CORPORATION FOR THIS PROJECT. THE RESOLUTION ARE 2 0 1 9 DASH 0 7. ON JANUARY 9TH 2019 CONTRACT PRICE WAS NINE TWENTY NINE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE THOUSAND HAD A CONTINGENCY OF NINE NINETY TWO THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED OR TOTAL CONTRACT PRICE OF ONE MILLION TWENTY ONE NINE AND A CONTRACT TIME OF TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY DAYS. PROJECT TIMELINE PROJECT HAS EXPERIENCED SEVERAL UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS WHICH HAVE EXHAUSTED THE CONTINGENCY ALLOWANCE AND NOW WARRANTS AND ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT ON APRIL 9 2019. CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE FOR 2400 WAS APPROVED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL SOIL DENSITY AND CONCRETE TESTING THAT WAS NOT FORESEEN ON AUGUST 27 2019 A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER TWO FOR SIXTY TWO THOUSAND TWENTY FIVE EIGHTY NINE WAS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY AND WAS REQUIRED TO RELOCATE AN EXISTING RAW WATER MAIN IN CONFLICT WITH THE WATER'S EDGE. PARK WALL WHICH TWO OF THE WELLS ARE WITHIN THE WATER'S EDGE PARK ROUTE A PREVIOUSLY ABANDONED THREE INCH WELL FOUND ON SITE DURING CONSTRUCTION. WE WERE NOT AWARE OF AND RELOCATE SOME PROPOSED ELECTRICAL SERVICES COMPOUND THE PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE THANK YOU KEITH. INSTALLATION OF A 20 INCH VALVE ON THE RAW WATER LINE RUNNING ALONG NORTHWEST 60 FOR THAT FIRST HOUR OF THIS VALVE IS NEEDED TO SATISFY THE CURRENT EXISTING STANDARDS REGARDING VALVES SPACING ON DISTRIBUTION LINES EXISTING SPACING IS TWENTY EIGHT HUNDRED FEET THE MAXIMUM SPACING CODE OR NOT PER CODE BUT RECOMMENDED BY BEST PRACTICES 2003 AND THIS KIND OF GOES ALONG LINES OF WHAT WE RECENTLY EXPERIENCED WITH FORT LAUDERDALE WHERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROPERLY ISOLATE THEIR WELLS AND SO THAT'S WHY WE GOT INTO THAT WHOLE CALAMITY IF THEY COULD HAVE ISOLATED WHICH THEY DID HAVE AN ALTERNATE METHOD OF GETTING WATER TO THE PLANT BUT THEY COULDN'T ISOLATE THE LEAK AND SO THEREFORE THEY COULDN'T USE THAT ALTERNATE METHOD. AND THAT'S WHY THEY ULTIMATELY RAN OUT OF WATER. SO THIS IS NOT QUITE AS CATASTROPHIC AS THAT IS BUT IT'S ALONG THAT SAME KIND OF LINE AND LOGIC OF WHERE YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO ISOLATE PORTIONS OF YOUR WELL NETWORK TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU DO HAVE DAMAGE WITHIN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE YOU CAN ISOLATE CERTAIN WELLS AND USE OTHER WELLS. WE HAVE 19 WELLS AND SO THIS WOULD BASICALLY ISOLATE EIGHT OUT OF THE 19 INSTALLATION OF A 10 INCH VALVE ON THE RAW WATER LINE ON NORTH LINE NORTH OF WELL NUMBER 10 AND 11 THE VALVE WAS HAD TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE IT WAS FOUND TO BE BROKEN WHEN WE WERE. DOING. IT DURING OUR CONSTRUCTION MAINTENANCE WORK SCHEDULES ON WELL NUMBER 12 AND 13 WERE IMPACTED DUE TO PERMANENT ISSUES AND WITH WELLS 10 11 12 AND 13 PROJECT MAKING IT NECESSARY TO 
          [03:00:06]
INCLUDE IN THIS BRANCH PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE REMOVAL OF EXISTING TREE WHICH PRESENTED A HAZARD TO WELL NO ONE'S PIPELINE AND OTHER UTILITIES THIS HAZARD WAS DISCOVERED DURING CONSTRUCTION EXCAVATION ADJACENT TO WORLD NUMBER 12. IT WAS NEAR A LARGE BANYAN TREE AND BANYAN TREE ROOTS STRUCTURES TEND TO GO OUT AS BIG AS THE CANOPY OF THE TREE IS. AND SO OUR PIPELINE WENT THROUGH THAT AREA AND SO WE COULD NOT EXCAVATE PROPERLY WITHOUT NEGATIVELY AFFECTING THE TREES. SO WE HAD TO REMOVE THE TREE AND GREW UP TRYING TO WORK AROUND IT A PAYMENT OF BUILDING DEPARTMENT PERMIT FEES TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THAT'S NORMAL. WE ALWAYS IT'S HARD TO ESTIMATE WHAT THESE FEES ARE GOING TO BE SO WE MAKE IT A DIRECT PASS THROUGH AS A PART OF THE CONTRACT AND WE PAY THAT OTHER CONTINGENT THAT WAY. WE CONTRACT IT DOESN'T OVER INFLATE WHAT HE THINKS THE COST OF THE PERMITS ARE GONNA BE AND SO WE PAY JUST WHAT THE FEE IS. THE PROJECT CONTRACT SPECIFIES PAYMENT OF PERMIT FEES THROUGH CONTINGENCY FUND SINCE I JUST SAID THAT KIND OF IT IS NOT KNOWN AT BIDDING TIME OF BIDDING AND INSTALLATION OF TWO SIXTEEN BY 80S ON EXISTING 16 INCH PIPE ADJACENT TO THE WORLD NUMBER 12 AND 13 DURING CONSTRUCTION NEEDS AS EXISTING PIPES SERVICING WELL NUMBER 12 AND 13 WERE FOUND TO BE SLOPING SIGNIFICANTLY SIGNIFICANTLY THIS SLOPE WILL PREVENT A PROPER INSTALLATION OF ISOLATION VALVES. 
          IN OTHER WORDS THE PIPES HAVE TO BE HORIZONTAL. YOU CAN'T MOUNT A AN UNDERGROUND VALVE ON A SLOPING LINE BECAUSE IT HAS A VERTICAL SHAFT WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PUT THE ACTUAL ORDER IN AND IF THAT'S NOT VERTICAL AND YOU DEFIES GRAVITY. COUNCIL WANTS TO NOT GO ON THE NOT SO YOU ALWAYS WANT TO BE VERTICAL AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO DO THAT DURING CONSTRUCTION AND FOUND SLOPE SLOPE WILL PREVENT PROPER INSTALLATION WHICH I KIND OF SAID SO PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE. THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT PRICE WAS NINE TWENTY NINE NINE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE THOUSAND PREVIOUS CHANGEOVERS A SIXTY FOUR FOUR TWENTY FIVE EIGHTY NINE THIS CHANGE ORDERS NINETY FIVE THOUSAND CONTRACT PRICE IS NOW ONE MILLION EIGHTY EIGHT FOR TWENTY FIVE EIGHTY NINE FORTY DAYS WERE ADDED FOR CHANGE ORDERS NUMBERS ONE AND TWO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT OF 260 DAYS AND THIS CHANGE ORDER ADDS ANOTHER FIFTY NINE DAYS FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT TIME WITH THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY NINE DAYS THE APPROPRIATION OF SIXTY SIX THOUSAND TWENTY FIVE EIGHTY NINE IS FROM UTILITIES CIPA FUND WILL BE REQUIRED AND THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THESE WELLS WHICH ARE DOWN IN THE PIT ON THE CENTRAL PICTURE BASICALLY SHOWS THE HATCH THAT YOU HAD ACCESS TO GET DOWN INTO THE PIT OBVIOUSLY ALL THE ELECTRIC AND CONTROLS AND STUFF ARE DOWN BELOW GRADE WHICH IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO FLOODING CONDITIONS AND SO THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO REHABILITATE THESE WELLS AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN MY FINISHED OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT THIS IS ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY READ QUESTIONS I SEE NO QUESTIONS FROM MY PARENTS AND THEREFORE THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME THANK YOU I WILL NOW MOVE ON TO TIER 2 FOR 1 0 FIREFIGHTERS PENSION PLAN 
          [6. TO2410 - Firefighters' Pension Plan Amendment]
AMENDMENT AND WE HAVE HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR OF ADVICE COMMON PLATE OH WELL THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. GOOD AFTERNOON MR. MAYOR. MADAM VICE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION LORENZO CALHOUN DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES IS THERE. I ECHO PERFECT SETTING. I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A TEMPORARY RESOLUTION WHICH WE ARE RECOMMENDING. THIS RESOLUTION CAME AS A RESULT OF BARGAINING WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS WHICH WE CONCLUDED IN DECEMBER OF TWENTY EIGHTEEN. WE BOUGHT FOR MIKE LAUGHING AT THE ECHO. YOU SOUND YOU SOUND GREAT. DO I SOUND IMPORTANT. THAT'S ALL THAT REALLY MATTERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IN JANUARY OF 2019 WE SAID PUSH IT BACK. YOU DON'T LIKE GEICO. OK EXCELLENT. YOU STILL HEAR ME OK. PERFECT. DARN. I LIKE THAT GO THANK YOU. IN JANUARY OF 2019 WE BOUGHT FORD THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WHICH WE TENTATIVELY AGREED TO AND THE COMMISSION RATIFIED AS A RESULT OF THAT RATIFICATION. IN THAT PACK IT WAS INCLUDED A RECOMMENDATION TO EXPLORE WHAT IS KNOWN 
          [03:05:02]
IN THE RETIREMENT INDUSTRY AS A BACKDROP OPTION WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY. THE KEY COMPONENT THAT YOU NEED TO REMEMBER FROM OUR PRESENTATION THAT DAY IS THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT TO THE PENSION FUND NO FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE FUND FOR ADDING THIS BAG TO BACKDROP OPTION. SO GO AHEAD WITH THE PRESENTATION. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER BACKDROP STANDS A LITTLE BIT AHEAD. SORRY ABOUT THAT THAT BACKDROP STANDS FOR BENEFIT ACTUARIALLY SOMEONE ELSE PLAYING WITH THE CLICKER BENEFIT ACTUARY I CALCULATED JIM I HAPPILY DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING. JIM AS YOU ALL SEE NO HANDS IS SHAKING HIS HEAD. I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. BENEFIT ACTUALLY A CALCULATED DEFERRED RETIREMENT OPTION PLAN. MOST PLANS HAVE WHAT'S KNOWN AS A DROP WHICH IS DEFERRED RETIREMENT OPTION PLAN WHICH ALLOWS A PARTICIPANT TO REQUEST FROM A PENSION BOARD A LUMP SUM OF MONEY WHICH WILL EFFECTIVELY REDUCE THEIR MONTHLY INCOME. AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AND NEXT SLIDE. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON JANUARY 29TH I BOUGHT THIS BEFORE YOU TO REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THE RATIFIED AGREEMENT FROM THE FIREFIGHTERS AND IN THERE WE AGREED TO EXPLORE THE OPTION OF A BACKDROP WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ESSENTIALLY DO THE OPPOSITE OF DROP WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY RETIRING AND NO LONGER CONTRIBUTING TO THE PENSION PLAN AND ALLOWING A LUMP SUM OF MONEY TO EARN INTEREST THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHICH IN EFFECT WOULD REDUCE THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENT. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT AS I MENTIONED IN THE SECOND SIDE. AUGUST 5TH WE WORKED WITH OUR ACTUARY OF ACTUARY FOR THE PENSION PLAN AND HE DID IN HIS COMPANY CONFIRM THAT THERE IS NO COST TO IMPACT THE PLAN FOR ENGAGING IN THIS OPTION. AND ON SEPTEMBER 11TH I AM ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER THIS RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE BACKDROP OF ELIGIBILITY. IF A FIREFIGHTER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REACH OR COMPLETE TWENTY FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE REGARDLESS OF AGE WITH THE CITY WHICH IS THE EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE THEY CAN RETIRE AND THE PENSION PLAN ALLOWED BY THE PENSION PLAN FOR 55 AGE 55 AND 18 YEARS OF SERVICE. WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS TO IMPLEMENT THAT THIRD BULLET POINT AND THE FIRST BOX IS A TIMEFRAME WITHIN WHICH FIREFIGHTERS WHO INTEND TO EXERCISE THIS OPTION THIS YEAR A TIMEFRAME FOR THEM TO NOTIFY US TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON A REPLACEMENT IN CASE A FIREFIGHTER WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPTION BECAUSE EFFECTIVELY THEY WALK IN AND SAY I'M ELIGIBLE FOR RETIREMENT. I'VE REACHED THE YEARS OF SERVICE I'M LEAVING X DATE SO WE WANT SOME SORT OF NOTIFICATION PERIOD TO ALLOW US TO FULFILL THAT THAT VACANT SPOT. GOING FORWARD WE ARE LOOKING AT 180 DAYS NOTICE AGAIN TO GIVE HUMAN RESOURCES AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLACE A FIREFIGHTER WHO'S LEAVING IN THEIR RIGHT HAND BOX. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PLAN AS WE MENTIONED AS OF JANUARY 1 THE FIREFIGHTER WILL BE ALLOWED TO DROP BACKWARDS ESSENTIALLY SAYING I'VE REACHED RETIREMENT AGE. I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT UP TO 36 MONTHS OF MY SERVICE AND REQUEST X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FROM THE PLAN. MANY FIREFIGHTERS USE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAY OFF DEBT SOME TO DRESS GETTING IN TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT. THIS WAS PUT IN MANY PENSION PLANS IN THE PAST BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FIREFIGHTERS AND OTHER FOLKS IN PENSION PLANS THROUGHOUT GOVERNMENT WANT TO GET IN TO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES OR TWO FACILITIES REQUIRE A LARGER WAS A LARGE SUM OF MONEY. SO THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE YEARS AGO AND OTHER PLANS AS WELL TO ALLOW THEM OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS. AGAIN IT HAS NO FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE PLAN. ONCE THEY ELECT THIS PARTICULAR OPTION IT'S IRREVOCABLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ESSENTIALLY SAID I AM RETIRED SO THEY CANNOT THEN CHANGE THEIR MIND ONE SHOULD EXERCISE THIS OPTION AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IS THAT THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT RIGHT AWAY WHEN THEY EXERCISE THIS OPTION. THEY HAVE TO WAIT A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. LIKE MOST FIREFIGHTERS WHO RETIRE AND IT IS EXPECTED THAT WE MENTIONED THAT THE INTEREST CREDIT WILL BE LESS THAN THAT PLAN THE RETURN ON THE PLAN AT THIS TIME I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY HAVING ANY QUESTIONS SO THEREFORE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU AND WE WILL NOW GO ON TO. TIER 2 FOR 1 1 ADJOURNMENT OF MEETING 
          [7. TO2411 - Adjournment of Meeting Ordinance]
ORDINANCE. THIS WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 10 HANG ON SECOND MEETING ON CONDITION 
          [03:10:03]
QUICKLY. I KNOW THE TIME IS SHORT. AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING THERE SOME SUGGESTED CHANGE IN CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE WHICH YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK IN THE BACKUP. YOU'LL NOTE THE SPECIFIC ONE SENTENCE CHANGE WHICH WE LOOKED AT. WE LISTENED TO THE MINUTES LISTEN TO MEETING AND WE READ THE MINUTES. THE BEST ANSWER WAS AS FOLLOWS THE LANGUAGE WE ADDED NOW SAYS BEGINS WITH ALL COMMISSION FOR CITY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETINGS SHALL ADJOURN NO LATER THAN ELEVEN THIRTY P.M. LOCAL TIME ALL REMAINING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA SHALL BE DEFERRED UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION. AND NOW WE ADDED MORE TO A DATE AND TIME CERTAIN AS APPROVED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY COMMISSION. THIS ACCOMPLISHES ALL THE VARIOUS SUBPLOTS THAT EVERYBODY WANTED AND WHAT IT MEANS IS FOR THE CLERK'S BENEFIT. 
          FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED THERE MAY BE NOTICE ISSUES YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE A TIME CERTAIN MOTION DO IT OFF OR DUTY TO PROVIDE FOR THE EXTENSION. WE PROVIDE THAT IS TO THE APPLICANT AND OTHERS AFFECTED THAT THERE IS A DATE CERTAIN FOR THAT PURPOSE. IT ALSO WOULD GIVE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THEY EITHER CONFLICT THE NEXT DAY OR SO THEREAFTER WHATEVER IT MAY BE. BUT YOU ALL BY MAJORITY VOTE CAN DECIDE WHAT THE DATE WOULD BE AND WHEN IT WOULD BE OCCASIONED BY THAT MOTION AND THAT IS NOT CLEAR ENOUGH IN THE PREVIOUS DRAFT. IT WILL BE CLEAR ENOUGH NOW. WE THINK THAT THIS LANGUAGE GIVES YOU THAT FLEXIBILITY WHICH WHICH EACH OF YOU MENTIONED IN THE COURSE OF CONVERSATION AND GIVES YOU A COLLEGIAL BODY DISCUSSION THAT YOU NEED TO GET TO THAT CONCLUSION. THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE WHICH WAS NOT CHANGED WILL ALSO STILL SAY THE CITY COMMISSION MAY CONCLUDE DEBATE IN VOTING ON ANY AGENDA ITEM UNDER CONSIDERATION BY ELEVEN THIRTY CITY COMMISSION MAY BY MAJORITY VOTE EXTEND BENEATH THE TIME AT ITS MEETING PASSING ELEVEN THIRTY TO CONSIDER REMAINING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA SORT OF COVER ALL THE BIG SUBPLOTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSION. THAT'S OUR BEST SUGGESTION GIVING YOU THE OPTION OF LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD. HOPEFULLY WE'VE CAPTURED THE MOMENT AND YOUR INTENTIONS BY THIS REVISION TODAY WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND BY THE WAY I THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOU. I LISTENED TO YOUR COMMENTS AND MADE SOME NOTES. I CAN NAME YOUR INDIVIDUAL BUT YOU ALL HAD A PART TO PLAY IN TRYING TO FIND JUST THE RIGHT LANGUAGE TO GET TO A CONCLUSION THAT GAVE YOU SOME REAL PUBLIC OPTIONS AND YOU HAVE THEM IN THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE ARE NOW MOVING. WE SHOULD GO. I'M ASKING YOU SOMETHING THAT I ASKED ABOUT HAVING LITTLE NOTE THAT SO-AND-SO SPONSORED THE ORDINANCE. I WANT TO DISCUSS THAT SO THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY WHO SPONSORED WHAT. SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE SPONSORING IT SHOULD KNOW I THINK THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC'S AND NO ONE CAN KNOW WHO'S SPONSORING WHAT ITEMS. MR GUY I HEAR YOU'RE SAYING THAT I THINK THAT YOU WERE NOT ALONE IN MAKING THAT REQUEST. SO I'M JUST SAYING I'M ASKING. I WASN'T ALONE IN MAKING A CLARIFICATION BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO BROUGHT THAT FORTH MANAGEMENT REVIEW. I WENT TO MASS REMEMBRANCE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY. OK SO SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE BUT IT'S MANAGEMENT. MY QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION ARE YOU NOT. THERE ARE THOSE INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE DON'T. IS NOT THIS CHAIN OF COMMAND OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO ASK FOR ADAM SMITH. WHAT ABOUT TOPICS SO I HEAR YOU. YOU'RE THE ONE BUT WHAT YOU DO TO FAMILY I KNOW OTHERS BUT IT'S THE CITY MANAGER I'M JUST SHARING THAT OPINION TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SO LIKE I'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES WHERE IF A COMMISSION. INTRODUCES LEGISLATION AND ORDINANCE IT DOCUMENTS IN THE AGENDA. THE ORDINANCE RESPONSIBLE. AND SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. AND IN MY OPINION I'M THE ONE THAT SPONSORED THIS LEGISLATION. I THINK YOU'VE MADE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD THAT IS YOUR OPINION THAT YOU'VE MADE THIS ANSWER. I'LL SEE WHAT I SEE GOING FORWARD FOR ALL ITEMS INTRODUCED BY DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS. I'M JUST SAYING I THINK AT THIS TIME THE ITEMS ARE STILL ON THE WORKSHOP. IF WE WANT TO HAVE THIS AS A WORKSHOP ITEM WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR THE NEXT TIME BECAUSE ANYTHING TO A WORKSHOP IT'S A YES OR NO DO WE DO IT. SOME PEOPLE MAY WANT TO DISCUSS IT IN MORE DETAIL. SO WE CAN HAVE THE CONSENSUS OF I'M NOT HAVING YOU JUMP UP AND DOWN. WE CAN BRING THIS UP AT ANOTHER WORKSHOP ITEM AND WE 
          [8. Travel Transparency Discussion]
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO TRAVEL EXPENSES TRANSPARENCY DISCUSSION REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND I BELIEVE THERE IS A HANDOUT THAT HE HAS JUST PRESENTED. RUSS THANK YOU. LOVE THE DANCING WITH YOU COMMISSIONER. OFTEN TIMES HAVE BEEN HANDED 
          [03:15:09]
OUT GIVE THANK YOU SIR HE TOOK A MOMENT TO GET BACK TO HER SEAT SUCH AS YOURS. THANK YOU. SO ON THE ON THE AGENDA TODAY YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ITEM 8 IS TRAVEL TRANSPARENCY DISCUSSION AND BESIDE IT. YOU HAVE MY NAME. WHICH BY THE WAY I THINK THAT IS WHAT COMMISSIONER GUNN WAS ASKING FOR THE SAME COURTESY TO BE GIVEN TO HIM AS IT WAS GIVEN TO ME ANYWAY. SO I BELIEVE THAT. TRAVELLING IS IMPORTANT. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE GO TO THE CONFERENCES OR THE MEETINGS OR SIT ON POLICY COMMITTEES ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR RESIDENTS IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO SO. IT IS ALSO EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I BELIEVE THAT OUR RESIDENTS KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHY WE'RE GOING AND WHAT OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON. THERE IS A SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT BELIEVES THAT WE ARE HIDING WHERE WE GO. 
          THERE IS A SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY THAT BELIEVES THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE INFORMATION. WHEN WE WHEN WE TRAVEL. ON SO IN AN EFFORT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY REALIZE THAT A TRAVELING IS IMPORTANT FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TRAVEL AND SEE TRAVELLING AS A BENEFIT. THAT WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE INFORMATION WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH WHERE WE GO. AND WHAT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO SO THE HANDOUT EXPLAINS. AND THE CITY CLERK HAS A COPY AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ON THE DAYS. JUST BE AWARE OF THIS TREND. THIS COULD GO ON. THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF SUGGESTION. IF IT IS THE PREROGATIVE OF THE CITY COMMISSION EVEN TO PUT IT ANYWHERE. ON THE WEBSITE THERE IS A BUTTON FOR GOVERNMENT AND WHEN YOU HOVER OVER GOVERNMENT YOU WOULD CLICK ON COMMUNITY COMMISSION DISCLOSURES AND MEETINGS AND WHEN YOU CLICK ON COMMISSION DISCLOSURES AND MEETINGS ANOTHER PAGE COMES UP YOU WOULD CLICK ON COMMISSION DISCLOSURES AND THEN WHEN YOU CLICK ON COMMISSION DISCLOSURES THERE ARE TWO DROP DOWNS. THE FIRST ONE IS SELECTING THE COMMISSIONER THAT YOU WANT TO SEE THE INFORMATION FOR. AND IN THIS CASE I SELECTED MAYOR GRAHAM AS AS THE EXAMPLE SO IF YOU CLICK ON MAYOR GOMEZ THE NEXT THING THAT YOU'D HAVE TO DO IS CLICK ON THE DROPDOWN FOR DISCLOSURE TYPES AND. YOU WOULD. FOR INSTANCE IN THIS INSTANCE JUST CLICK ON THE FIRST ONE THAT SAYS CAMPAIGN FUND RAISING FOR OTHER CANDIDATES. AND ONCE YOU HIT ON THE SEARCH BUTTON IT WOULD GIVE YOU A LIST OF. IN THIS CASE I'M EACH PLEASED THAT WE HAVE TRAVEL AND BACKUP INFORMATION FOR IT. THIS SHOWS WHERE EACH COMMISSIONER IS GOING WHAT THEY ARE SPENDING ON AND HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING EXPENDED OBVIOUSLY THE WORLD KNOWS THAT. I HAVE TRAVELED IN THE PAST VERY MUCH SO A LOT IN MY VERY FIRST YEAR OF BEING A COMMISSIONER. I DID NOT WANT TO BE A COMMISSIONER THAT DOES NOT KNOW. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE GO TO THESE CONFERENCES WE MEET WITH OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND SPEAKERS PRESENTERS ALL OVER THE WORLD. WE CAN NOW SHARE BEST PRACTICES WITH AND BRING BACK IDEAS TO OUR 
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CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY IS AS CUTTING EDGE AS OTHER CITIES OR INSIDER FOR THE NEXT YEAR I THINK WHICH IS THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR. I DID NOT HAVE TO GO TO SEVERAL OF THOSE PLACES THAT I WENT BEFORE BECAUSE I ALREADY GARNERED THAT KNOWLEDGE. I THINK AS A COMMISSIONER ADVANCES IN THE DIFFERENT YEARS AND YOU GET TO CHOOSE WHERE YOU WANT TO GO OR ON OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR TERM. DECIDE IF THIS YOU KNOW IS GIVING ENOUGH RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT SO TO SPEAK. AND SO I CONTINUE TO TRAVEL BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT IS BENEFICIAL TO OUR RESIDENTS AND IT'S BENEFICIAL TO OUR CITY AND IT'S BENEFICIAL TO THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I CAN BRING BACK TO BE A BETTER COMMISSIONER. THE PART THAT IS MISSING IS JUST SHOWING TO ALL RESIDENTS THROUGH THIS INITIATIVE OF TRANSPARENCY THAT WE ARE NOT HIDING THAT THAT THE INFORMATION IS AT YOUR FINGERTIPS WHENEVER THEY WANT IT. I'VE JUST I'VE I'VE RECEIVED YOU KNOW JUST A FEW COMPLAINTS NOT WHEN THE INFORMATION IS ASKED FOR IT IS NOT FORTHCOMING IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO THEM. AND SO YOU KNOW TO ALLEVIATE THOSE ISSUES IT WOULD BE I THINK FAIR OR RIGHT OF US TO HAVE THE INFORMATION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS AS WE HAVE OTHER INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB SITE AT THE RESIDENCE. FINGER TIPS AS WELL. THAT IS THE PRESENTATION MAY OR MAY I SEE SOMETHING COMMISSIONER FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO THIS COMMISSION. 
          COMMISSION DISCLOSURE DOCUMENTS SITE IS STRICTLY THE BROWARD COUNTY ETHICS FORUMS THAT WE NEED TO UPLOAD CAMPAIGN TREASURIES AND PROVIDES ALL OF THOSE REPORTS THAT YOU GIVE TO ME YOUR TRAINING EVERYTHING ELSE SO HOW DON'T WE IN MY OPINION THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO PUT IT. WE COULD PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT IT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THIS RIGHT. AND MAY I RESPOND. YES. SO SO THIS WOULD SIMPLY BE THIS IS THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF OF WHAT IT COULD BE. JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES JUST AN IDEA OF WHERE I'M GOING. IT'S NOT DEFINITIVELY IT HAS TO GO THERE. OK. I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. I JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WE CAN PUT IT ON OUR INDIVIDUAL HOME PAGES IF WE AGREE TO THIS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT ON THIS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. DO I HAVE. DO I MET A MAN. I'M ASKING FOR A CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION. IF WE HAVE. I'M ASKING IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TRANSPARENCY AND TRAVEL. THAT WOULD BE TO GIVE STAFF THE DIRECTION WHETHER OR NOT TO PUT THE INFORMATION ON THE WEB SITE. STAFF WOULD FIND THE APPROPRIATE PLACE ON THE WEB SITE. BUT I WANT TO SEE CONSENSUS. I WANT TO SEE IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO GO FORWARD OR NOT. COMMISSION DOESN'T I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. AND SEEING THAT THERE IS NO OTHER COMMENTS BEING MADE ON THIS THERE IS NO APPARENT CONSENSUS AND THEREFORE IF YOU NEVER YOU NEVER ASKED. I DON'T NEED TO. I DON'T NEED TO. I WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS CONSENSUS STILL. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO COMMENTS FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES. THERE IS NO CONSENSUS AT THIS TIME THAT THERE IS THERE IS THERE THERE. SAM AM I CORRECT. NO. THERE'S TWO THINGS. 
          TWO THINGS. ARE TWO THINGS AT HAND. NUMBER ONE IS DISCUSSION AND NUMBER TWO IS CONSENSUS. THAT'S HOW WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THINGS. ACTUALLY IT'S IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME. THERE IS NO CONSENSUS COMING FROM THE BEST FROM DISCUSSION. AND THEREFORE THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. I DON'T WANT TO START I WANT TO STEP ON YOUR YOUR YOUR 
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POLICYMAKING TOES BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I'VE SEEN IT BOTH WAYS. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. SO IF THE COMMISSIONER IS ASKING FOR THE CHAIR FOR CONSENSUS I THINK HE HAS A RIGHT TO ASK THAT QUESTION TO THE EXTENT THAT THE MAYOR HAS OPEN THE DOOR. 
          CONSENSUS. I DON'T. I'M SITTING HERE AS AN OBJECTIVE THIRD PARTY LISTENING. I DON'T HEAR THAT ANSWER EITHER. SO YOU CAN TRY IT EITHER WAY. IF THE RECORD'S NOT CLEAR YOU CAN CLARIFY FOR EACH OF YOU THIS WAS DISCUSSED PRIOR ON PROCEDURE AND HOW TO HANDLE THINGS AND THERE WAS NO COMMENT FROM THE COMMISSION AND THEREFORE THERE'S NOT A DISCUSSION THAT HAS BEEN HAD. THE PUBLIC DOESN'T NEED TO TAKE PLACE AND THEREFORE AS I STATED I HAVE A FURTHER DISCOUNT FOR FURTHER COMMENT TO MAKE STAFF AS STAFF GETS THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COMMISSION. IF WE DON'T GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION TO STAFF THEN THEY ARE IN LIMBO. THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THAT DIRECTION IS NOT CLEAR. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS I'M THROUGH THE CHAIR TO THE CITY MANAGER. ARE YOU ARE YOU CLEAR. WITH WHAT I'M ASKING FOR AND HOW WOULD YOU FROM THE DIRECTION THAT THE MAYOR FEELS THAT SHE IS GIVEN. HOW WOULD YOU GO FORWARD IN TELLING YOUR STAFF TO ADDRESS THEMSELVES WITH THIS. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WE DO AS YOU AND YOU DIRECT YOUR STAFF SO. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CONSENSUS SO YOU HAVEN'T. YOU HAVE NOT HEARD ANY CONSENSUS TO MOVE OR TO MOVE FORWARD. SO THAT MEANS IT IS THE COMMISSION'S YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IS THE COMMISSION'S PREROGATIVE NOT TO NOT TO PUT OUT IN THE PUBLIC VIEW THE WEBSITE WHERE WE ARE GOING AS A CITY COMMISSION. WHEN WE TRAVEL AND PUT ALL THE DETAILS YOU FEEL THAT THE THAT THE DIRECTION IS WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THIS ON THE WEBSITE AT THIS TIME. WHAT I HEARD COMMISSIONER WAS THAT THERE WAS NOT A CONSENSUS REGARDING THE GOALS OF THE RIGHT. THERE WAS NOT A PROPOSAL AND THE AND THE AND THE PROPOSAL THAT I HAVE WAS IN WRITING AND WHAT I SAID IS NUMBER ONE. WE BELIEVE THAT TRAVELING IS IMPORTANT AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO YOU KNOW PUT ON THE PUT ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE RESIDENTS BENEFIT. WELL WE ARE GOING AND THE DETAILS OFF THAT WAS A PRESENTATION YOU ARE SEEING THAT FROM THE CONSENSUS THAT YOU ARE HEARING ON THE COMMISSION IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME. I DIDN'T HEAR A CONCERN. YOU DID NOT HEAR A CONCERN SYMBOLS WEDNESDAY FOR WEDNESDAY. NOT ON THE AGENDA AND DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PUT FOR THE MOMENT. I HAVE A THE AGENDA. YES BUT I HAVE AN AGENDA. YES BUT THERE'S PROCEDURES FOR THAT AND I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION ON OUR WEBSITE AS EVERYTHING LISTED. AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THIS IS FROM MR. MASON. SORRY MR. MASON OUR FINANCIALS ARE ALL POSTED. DID WE NOT SPEND TIME PUTTING EVERYTHING ON OUR FINANCIAL PAGES OR WEBSITE OUR BUDGET IS AN INTERACTIVE BUDGET WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEARCH AND LOOK AT THE SPENDING OF OUR CITY. WHO IS SPEAKING. THE SPEAKER NEEDS TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND IDENTIFY HIMSELF. THE MAN NEEDS TO FINALLY LEARN HOW TO CONDUCT THE MEETING. YES MARK MASON MARK MASON FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR YES WE DO HAVE A SITE ONLINE THAT YOU CAN GO TO SEARCH LINE ITEMS WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET BY THE AS I TRAVEL CORRECT. YES BUT NOT THE DETAIL OF THE TRIAL EXACTLY. IF I MAY. IT GIVES THE THE FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OR WHATEVER IT IS FOR TRAVEL BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT I'M SPENDING FIFTEEN THOUSAND COMMISSIONER BLACK WHO IS SPENDING 1000 THE MERE SPENDING THREE THOUSAND COMMISSIONER GO GOVERNMENT SPENDING TEN THOUSAND. MR. FISHMAN SPENDING TEN THOUSAND. IF THOSE WERE THE NUMBERS IT DOESN'T GIVE ANY CLARIFICATION AS TO WHO IS TRAVELING WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO WHAT THEY ARE TRAVELING FOR. DOESN'T GIVE ANY OF THAT RIGHT. IF WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING FOR EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR IF YOU CLICK ON ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU THE 
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DETAIL ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRAVEL. BUT IT WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT'S BEEN SPENT ON THOSE LINE ITEMS. YES. RIGHT. SO AND THIS AND THIS DISCUSSION IS NOT ABOUT THE LINE ITEMS. THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT GIVING THE RESIDENTS DETAILS SO ALL THE RESIDENTS SEE RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE ARE TRAVELING AND WE ARE SPENDING BOOK DOLLARS AND THEY'RE SAYING WHERE ARE YOU GOING. WHY DOES IT COST FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. WHY DOES IT COST TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE HEARING. THEY DON'T SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING AND THEY DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT TO THEM. 
          AND THAT IS WHERE I'M COMING FROM. WHY NOT GIVE THEM THAT INFORMATION GIVE THEM WHERE WE'RE GOING. WHY WE'RE GOING. WHAT WE SPENT THE MONEY ON AND SO THEY CAN SEE THE BENEFIT WE HAD OF WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING. AND AND AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH OUR CITY. THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH OUR CITY. WE DON'T GIVE DETAILS TO OUR RESIDENTS. THE ONES WE WANT TO KNOW WE JUST GIVE THEM A BIG PICTURE AND SAY HERE'S YOUR BUDGET WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. BUT IF I'M NOT A COMMISSIONER OR I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SEARCH FOR IT OR WHAT TO LOOK FOR I CAN NEVER FIND IT. AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO LET THEM KNOW TO LET THEM SEE IT. SO LET THEM FEEL IT AND THEN THEY CAN HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEIR COMMISSIONER THAT WHEN WE ARE GOING TO TRAVEL WE ARE GOING TO TRAVEL FOR THIS CAUSE THAT BENEFITS THEM. THIS IS NOT A BATTLE. IT'S NOT A BATTLE. IT'S NOT A FIGHT. I'M NOT TRYING TO BECOME BAD IF I'M SIMPLY TRYING TO GIVE INFORMATION TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND SHAME ON COMMISSIONER FISHERMEN FOR NOT EVEN SPEAKING UP BECAUSE SHE HAS TRAVELED AS MUCH AS I HAVE AND HER RESIDENTS HAVE COMPLAINED SEVERAL TIMES THAT THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION OF WHERE SHE IS GOING AND WHAT SHE IS GOING TO TRAVEL FOR. SO SHE WENT ON MISSION ABOUT AND ARE IN THE WRONG. MS TUCKER. COMMISSIONER EFFICIENT FOR FOR NOT SPEAKING UP ON THIS AT THIS TIME I FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ADJOURNED THE MEETING LIKE FIVE TIMES. I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GO NOW. NOW YOU DID MAKE A MEETING WITH THE CHANDRA LEVY. ONE NANCY AND ACTUALLY MEANS. 
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.