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GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO OUR MONDAY, APRIL 8TH, 1003 COMMISSION WORKSHOP.
[Call to Order]
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR GOMEZ.
GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
GOOD MORNING. VICE MAYOR WRIGHT.
PRESENT. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
EXCELLENT. IF WE WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE.
COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND WE WILL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
FIRST ON OUR AGENDA IS NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT DISCUSSION.
[1.a Neighborhood Improvement District Discussion Requested by Commissioner, Marlon Bolton Presentation by Maxine Calloway, Assistant City Manager and CommunityDevelopment Director]
THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.PRESENTATION BY MAXINE CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
ALL RIGHT. I'M ALL OF THAT TODAY AND THIS WEEK.
THANK YOU AGAIN AND GOOD MORNING.
AS MENTIONED, THIS ITEM IS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
AND THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FIRST SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHAT WE EXPECT TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORNING.
AND THEN WE'LL TOUCH QUICKLY ON A REQUEST THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE GUARDS AND THE DISABLED PALM.
REGARDING THE CREATION OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
SO A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS ESSENTIALLY CREATED BY PART FOUR OF FLORIDA STATUTE.
PRIMARILY, THE STATUTE TIES THOSE IMPROVEMENT WITH CRIME PREVENTION, AS YOU'LL SEE AS WE WALK YOU THROUGH THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THEY'RE CREATED FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ESSENTIALLY BY ORDINANCE.
SO THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM FLORIDA STATUTE, THE DEFINITION OF NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
AND THOSE MEASURES YOU SEE LISTED IN GREEN ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, WHICH INCLUDES LANDSCAPING, ROAD CONFIGURATION, ENVIRONMENTAL SECURITY, DEFENSIBLE SPACE TECHNIQUES, AND COMMUNITY POLICE AND INNOVATION.
SO SOME OF THOSE SOME THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT FALL UNDER THE PLAN FOR CRIME PREVENTION.
FOR THE SECTION THAT WILL LOOK AT THE ONE IN BLUE IS THE MOST COMMON IN BROWARD COUNTY AND IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHICH IS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. IT'S THE ONE THAT THE CITY CREATED IN 2010 WHEN THE WOODLANDS DISTRICT WAS CREATED.
THEN YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH WE'LL TOUCH ON.
SO JUST SOME DATA FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
SO THESE ARE THE LIST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS THAT ARE CREATED IN BROWARD COUNTY.
AND MOST OF THEM, IF NOT ALL, THE CITY COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL ACT AS THE LOCAL GOVERNING AUTHORITY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU JUST WANT TO LIST A LOT.
A LOT OF HERE LOOKS LIKE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THREE.
PLANTATION HAS TWO, BUT PRIMARILY LAUDERHILL IS THE ONE THAT MAINLY HAS THOSE.
SO FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WAS IN BLUE AND THE MOST COMMON ONCE THE ORDINANCE IS CREATED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVY AD VALOREM TAX UP TO TWO MILS ANNUALLY.
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THE GOVERNING BOARD IS TYPICALLY THE CITY COMMISSION, AS WE SAW WITH THE LAST SLIDE.WHICH IS PRESCRIBED BY THE ORDINANCE AND BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
SO YOU ESSENTIALLY TELL THEM WHAT THEIR DUTIES ARE.
THEY ACT AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
THEY ALSO REPORT ON THE DISTRICT ACTIVITIES, AND THEY CREATE THE BUDGET FOR THE DISTRICT AS WELL.
AND THEY REPORT THOSE TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
THEY ALSO HAVE TO MEET PUBLICLY THE ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS MADE UP OF PROPERTY OWNERS.
THERE'S NO AUTOMATIC SUNSETS, AS WE DID WITH THE WOODLANDS.
WHEN THE BOARD NO LONGER IS ACTIVE, YOU WOULD BRING FORWARD AN ORDINANCE TO TO ABOLISH OR TO INACTIVATE THE BOARD, AND THAT HAS TO BE TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE WHEN YOU'RE READY TO DO THAT, IN LIEU OF THE CITY COMMISSION BEING THE GOVERNING BODY, YOU CAN HAVE THE GOVERNING BODY BE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT THAT HAS TO BE ADOPTED IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND THE COUNCIL MAY APPOINT BOARD OF DIRECTORS BETWEEN 3 AND 7 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
THEY HAVE TO BE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ARE PAYING SUBJECT TO PAYING TAXES.
SO MORE ABOUT HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THE LOCAL ONE, IS ADOPTED.
IT'S A GENERAL ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY INTENDS TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ONCE THAT GENERAL ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED, WHICH IN THIS CASE, ONE IS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS, THEN YOU HAVE TO ENACT A SEPARATE ORDINANCE FOR EACH DISTRICT.
THAT ORDINANCE HAS TO ESTABLISH THE BOUNDARIES AND THE SIZE AND THE NAME OF THAT DISTRICT.
AND SO WOULD ASK THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY'D LIKE THE DISTRICT TO BE NAMED.
IT AUTHORIZES THE DISTRICT TO LEVY AD VALOREM TAX ON REAL PROPERTY UP TO TWO MILLS ANNUALLY.
THAT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IS NOT TO EXCEED $500 ANNUALLY.
IT THEN ESTABLISHES THE ADVISORY COUNCIL TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND THEN ONCE THAT IT'S THAT THAT IS DONE, IT REQUIRES A DISTRICT TO NOTIFY THE STATE WITHIN 30 DAYS THAT THIS IS ESTABLISHED.
THEY CAN ENTER INTO CONTRACTS, THEY CAN ACQUIRE, OWN, CONVEY, LEASE, CONSTRUCT PROPERTY.
THEY CAN PREPARE AND ADOPT, IMPLEMENT AND MODIFY A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
JUST TOUCHING ON THE OTHER TYPE OF NIDS THAT'S UNDER ARTICLE OR SECTION FIVE OF STATE STATUTE, YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION NID, WHICH IS GOVERNED BY A1623508.
THE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS ONE IS THAT THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO LEVY AD VALOREM TAX.
AND WE DIDN'T FIND THAT THIS WAS USED A LOT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THE SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
THEIR STRUCTURE IS A BIT DIFFERENT AS WELL.
IT'S ESTABLISHED BY REFERENDUM.
THEY TOO MAY LEVY AN ADMIRAL OR TAX OF UP TO TWO MILLS ANNUALLY.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
WE DID RECEIVE A REQUEST FROM THE GARDENS AT SABAL PALM THAT CAME IN LATE LAST YEAR, AROUND SEPTEMBER OR SO, ASKING FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
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AND WE JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION AS YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE DISCUSSION WITH THE DISTRICT, WHAT THAT MIGHT REPRESENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DISTRICT, WE DID SOME CALCULATION ON THEIR TAX AND THEIR VALUES.THEY'RE COMPRISED OF 68 UNITS.
ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE OVERALL THOSE 68 PROPERTIES OR UNITS BRING IN $3.6 MILLION IN TAXES.
AND SO IF THIS COMMISSION WERE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT WOULD DO AS IT RELATES TO THE VALUE OR THE REVENUE THAT THEY WOULD BRING IN WITH TWO MILLS, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OVER $7,000.
ANNUALLY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF THEY WERE TO DO AN ASSESSMENT BASED ON FLORIDA STATUTE, WHICH IS UP TO $500 ANNUALLY, NOT TO EXCEED, THEN YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE 68 PROPERTIES, WHAT THAT WOULD GENERATE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
AND JUST SOME ADDITIONAL MISCELLANEOUS ON NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
THERE ARE STATE AGENCY FOR THE PURPOSES OF SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY, BUT THEY MAY NOT BORROW MONEY.
THEY MUST PRODUCE THAT CRIME REDUCTION AND PREVENTION PLAN THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
THE DISTRICT CIP MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND OF COURSE, OUR BUDGET PROCESS MUST BE COMPLIANT WITH FLORIDA STATUTE 200.
THEY MUST COMPLY WITH THE UNIFORM SPECIAL DISTRICT ACCOUNTABILITY ACT OF 1989.
SO THIS IS JUST SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT IS RELATED TO NEIGHBORING IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH THIS INFORMATION.
SEEING THAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS PART IS FIRST.
MAYOR. MISS MAXINE, CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY DISTRICT SO THAT PEOPLE WATCHING OR WHOEVER MAY NOT UNDERSTAND SPECIFICALLY, IT'S NOT DISTRICT ONE, TWO, 3 OR 4.
IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
AND FLORIDA STATUTE PROVIDES FOR JUST A FEW OF THEM.
SO THE TERM DISTRICT WOULD BE SYNONYMOUS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT.
WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY REQUESTED THIS? THEY WOULD LIKE IN THEIR LETTER OF INTENT, THEY MENTIONED CERTAIN THINGS AS IT RELATES TO IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE CONDUCTED WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY, THAT FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WITHOUT THIS, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
NOT NECESSARILY, I DON'T THINK I THINK THOSE IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE.
MAYBE THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH THE PAYMENT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING WITH THEIR COMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS, BUT THEY DID PROVIDE A LETTER OF INTENT ASKING THAT THIS BE CREATED, PERHAPS TO PROVIDE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE.
IS THIS A RENTAL COMMUNITY OR HOMEOWNER? IT'S A CONDOMINIUM HOME OWNERS.
OKAY, SO THE BOARD DECIDED THAT THEY WANT TO PUSH FORWARD WITH CHANGING.
YES. THE BOARD DECIDED AND SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO THE CITY TO CONSIDER THIS.
OKAY. DO THEY NEED LIKE A MAJORITY VOTE ON THEIR BOARD TO SEND THAT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD TO THE CITY? I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY DID BECAUSE IT CAME ON FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA.
OKAY. NOW A QUESTION ON ANNUALLY.
I KNOW IT SAYS UP TO $500 PER UNIT ANNUALLY IS THAT YEAR ONE AND THEN YEAR TWO.
AND THEN YEAR THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX IT'S UP TO $500.
SO DEPENDING ON WHAT AMOUNT I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SECURE.
SO IT COULD BE 300, 400, 200, UP TO $500 ANNUALLY.
OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY THOUGH, 2024 THEY APPROVE 500.
2025 THEY APPROVE ANOTHER 500.
2026 THEY CAN APPROVE ANOTHER 500 UP TO $500 ANNUALLY.
YES. AND IF I CAN JUST ASK SO I CAN KNOW HOW TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS. IF COMMISSIONER BOLTON WOULD LIKE TO GIVE SOME INSIGHT AS TO WHAT MADE HIM BRING THIS ITEM FORWARD.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER ROSZEL IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
SOMETIME LAST YEAR, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION APPROACHED ME ON CONDO ASSESSMENTS.
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THEY THEY'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF ISSUES WITH INSURANCE AND FIXING THEIR PROPERTY, JUST LIKE ALL OF THE PRETTY MUCH CONDOS IN, IN FLORIDA.AND SO THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE ASSOCIATION WE MR. CALLAWAY PROVIDED A PROPOSAL THAT WAS, I GUESS, USED FOR THE WOODLANDS IN THE PAST.
BROUGHT THAT TO THE ASSOCIATION.
SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON WITH THAT INSTEAD OF THE ASSOCIATION COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION ASKING THE COMMISSION TO.
I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO NOT OPERATE IN A VACUUM, BUT MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSION IS FULLY AWARE ON WHAT NEEDS ARE SO THAT IF YOU WANT TO USE THE SAME SORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OTHER CONDOS OR PROPERTIES IN YOUR DISTRICTS YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS AS WELL.
AND IF THIS COMES BEFORE THE COMMISSION FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AT LEAST EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT A NID IS AND CAN PROPERLY ARTICULATE TO THEM WHAT IT IS.
CURRENTLY THEY ARE EACH HOMEOWNER, I BELIEVE, IS FACED WITH A $25,000 ASSESSMENT.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD THAT.
SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE ARE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND SOME PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT AND SO FORTH.
PEOPLE ARE STEALING TIRES OFF OF CARS, LEAVING THEM ON BLOCKS.
SO IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH TIME NOT JUST AT THIS CONDO, BUT SEVERAL PLACES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA.
SO THAT'S THE THE IDEA OF OF THIS, THE ASSOCIATION IS WATCHING THEY WANTED TO BE HERE, BUT THEY ARE WATCHING VIRTUALLY. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A GREAT IDEA FOR FOR THEM.
I'M KIND OF OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE YOU ARE.
WE'RE ASKING, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS TO TAX THEMSELVES.
MAYBE IT'S LIKE $1 MILLION THAT THEY WOULD THAT THEY WOULD GET.
IT'S $500 PER PROPERTY OWNER AT 68, $34,000 PER YEAR TIMES 30 YEARS.
MAYBE THAT'S $1 MILLION OVER 30 YEARS.
THE GOOD THING IS, I THINK THAT THEY CAN BORROW AGAINST THE THE MONEY.
I MEAN, HANS WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY ON THAT, MISS CALLOWAY, IF YOU WOULD.
COMMISSIONER. MISS CALLOWAY IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AGAIN.
RIGHT. RIGHT. SO I MEAN I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS A COMMUNITY THAT MAY BE YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA FOR THEM.
BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING AND THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF OF THE INFORMATION.
BUT A LOT OF RESIDENTS STILL WANT IT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S BETTER THAN BEING ASSESSED $25,000.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WOULD STOP THE ASSESSMENT.
ANYWAY, SO IT'S JUST PRESENTING SOLUTIONS.
I IT'S IT'S THROWING THINGS OUT.
I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE FACED WITH DIFFICULT TIMES.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO BE CREATIVE IN SEEING HOW BEST WE CAN HELP PEOPLE.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
YEAH, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
OKAY, SO. WHAT ARE THE DOWNFALLS? WELL, I CAN TELL.
AND IF YOU CAN INCLUDE WOODLANDS PROS AND CONS.
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WELL, WE DID BRING AN ORDINANCE FORWARD, I THINK.MADAM MAYOR. 3 TO 4 YEARS INTO THE WOODLANDS TO ABOLISH THE WOODLANDS.
BECAUSE REALLY, THEY DID NOT ASSESS THEMSELVES.
IT WAS NOT. MAYBE THE MAYOR LOOKS LIKE SHE WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT.
SO THE WOODLANDS REALLY WAS NOT WAS NOT FUNCTIONAL THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED.
AND SO WE DID SUNSET THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
BUT IN PREPARATION FOR THIS PRESENTATION, I DID SPEAK TO THE CITY OF PLANTATION IN PARTICULAR, WHO HAS TWO VERY THEY HAVE TWO VERY SUCCESSFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN CREATED FROM THE 1990S, ONE FOR THEIR MIDTOWN, WHICH IS 800 ACRES IN SIZE, WHICH IS VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM.
THEY USE IT TO HIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, POLICE OFFICERS.
THEY DO LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENT.
AND SO FROM THAT PROCESS, I DID LEARN THAT IT PROBABLY MIGHT BE SOMETHING VERY EFFECTIVE FOR OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, WHICH IN PLANTATION, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR AT LEAST TWO OF THEIR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
SO IT'S A TOOL THAT WE CAN PROBABLY LOOK AT, NOT JUST FOR THIS COMMUNITY, BUT HOW IT CAN BE UTILIZED PRIMARILY FOR OUR COMMERCIAL COMMUNITIES, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS RELATIVE TO THEIR CONDITION AND APPEARANCE.
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S ONE THING THAT CAN BE UTILIZED TO IMPROVE THAT.
DID YOU WANT ME TO DRESS WOODLANDS? OKAY, SO THE WOODLANDS WHEN IT ROLLED OUT, IT WAS.
POSSIBLY NOT TOO SMOOTH FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IT WAS A ONE TIME $500 TO GET THE COMMUNITY.
BE ABLE TO GRASP AS A WHOLE, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION THAT WENT OUT.
THEN THERE WAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DECIDED TO SUE THE CITY ABOUT IT IN THE COMMUNITY.
THAT CAUSED A WHOLE BUNCH OF MORE MISINFORMATION.
BUT. AND I HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT MAXINE AND MANY OTHERS OF THE CITY DID TRY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND, BUT THEY JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO. MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
IT WAS TOO MUCH OF A FIGHT FOR EVERYTHING.
SOME PEOPLE WANTED IT, SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T.
SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT THE WHOLE CITY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR IT.
WHY SHOULD THEY PAY FOR IT? YOU KNOW, SOME HOUSES THAT WERE A LARGER TAX BASE THAN ANOTHER AND INSTEAD OF IT BEING LEVEL, IT JUST IT JUST DIDN'T WORK.
THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T HAVE THE BUY IN FOR IT, WHICH IS WHY, IN MY OPINION, DOING IT THIS WAY AND HAVING IT OUT THERE FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO KNOW WHAT THEY COULD DO AND THEN LET THE COMMUNITIES COME TO THE CITY, BECAUSE PRESUMPTIVELY WHEN THEY COME TO THE CITY, THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THE BUY IN FIRST.
IT'S NOT THE CITY TRYING TO PUSH FORWARD THAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT COMES FROM.
OKAY ANY OTHER, BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FIRST? NO. NO PRESSURE.
OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO BACKWARDS ON BASED ON THE QUESTIONS ABOUT LENDING BECAUSE I.
I'VE MET WITH OTHERS WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS, AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MAXINE ON A COUPLE OF THESE ITEMS. IF A COMMUNITY IS ALREADY PUTTING HAS ALREADY HAS THE.
THEY ALREADY KNOW THEY HAVE A $2 MILLION PROJECT BEING DONE.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
WELL DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT HAS STARTED.
BUT THE FIRST THING THEY WOULD NEED TO DO IS DO THE CRIME PREVENTION PLAN THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO CREATE A BUDGET AND PROJECTS THAT THAT BUDGET WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED BY YOU AND HOW THOSE AND THE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO LIST THOSE PROJECTS THAT THEY ARE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH.
THAT'S GOING TO HELP WITH CRIME PREVENTION.
SO IT HAS TO BE TIED SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.
THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEN THEY HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET.
IT HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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TO BE THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY, BUT NOTWITHSTANDING, IT STILL WILL NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN YOUR CIP.THEY WOULD IDENTIFY IT IN THE PLAN.
THEY WOULD THEN IDENTIFY IT IN THE BUDGET THAT COMES FORWARD TO YOU.
OKAY. SO THAT YEAH, I'LL GO BACK ON SOME OF THE STUFF YOU SAID.
SO FOR RIGHT NOW, IF A PROJECT'S ALREADY STARTED THEN THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO.
THIS WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
I DON'T THINK SO. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN FURTHER OPINE, BUT I WOULDN'T THINK SO.
BECAUSE. I MEAN, MAYOR, I THINK THE QUESTION IS, I MEAN, AN ONGOING PROJECT WHETHER IF THIS DISTRICT IS CREATED.
YOU CAN USE NEW FUNDS CREATED BY THE DISTRICT TO PAY FOR ONGOING PROJECTS.
YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION OR LAW THAT PRECLUDES THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS FURTHER RESEARCH.
I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY YES OR NO UNLESS WE RESEARCH IT EVEN MORE.
THEY HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY STARTED.
WE ALREADY HEARD THAT THEY'RE BEING ASSESSED.
I, YOU KNOW, KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE PAID IT, SOME PEOPLE ARE PAYING IT.
AND HOWEVER THEY'RE PAYING IT OVER THE TIME.
SO IT WOULD COME DOWN TO LOOKING AT THE WORDING OF IS IT'S AN ONGOING PROJECT OR IS IT A PROJECT THAT IS STARTED AND IF IT HAS STARTED, THEN IT PROBABLY CAN'T WORK.
IF IT'S AN ONGOING PROJECT THAT IS PAID IN TIME, POSSIBLY IT COULD WORK.
LIKE IF IT'S A STAGGERED IN PHASES.
YEAH, THEN POSSIBLY BECAUSE IT HAS TO COME TO US TO PUT INTO THE CIP TO APPROVE.
SO THEIR PLAN AND THEIR PLAN AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.
SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO.
BUT. I'M JUST GOING TO USE MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT FAILED AND WE'RE NOT DOING THIS.
SO WOODLANDS NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT CANNOT GO OVER TO ABC BANK AND SAY, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND WE WANT TO TAKE OUT A $2 MILLION LOAN.
CAN WE UTILIZE THE FUNDS THAT WE ARE SHOWING YOU? WE ARE GUARANTEED TO PAY BECAUSE WE'VE AGREED TO COLLECT $500 PER HOME, AND WE'VE GOT 3000 $535,000 A YEAR THAT WE KNOW WE CAN PAY TO THIS LOAN.
CAN THAT HAPPEN? THE ANSWER IS NO, RIGHT? OKAY. HOWEVER, IF THE CITY IS PUTTING IT IN A BUDGET INTO OUR CIP BUDGET, CAN THE CITY BE THE LENDER? SO IF WE ARE IN BUDGET AND WE KNOW THAT OUR PROJECT'S GOING TO COST WOODLAND'S $2 MILLION, THIS ISN'T HAPPENING, PEOPLE.
IT'S GOING TO COST $2 MILLION.
BUT THE WOODLANDS IS SAYING WE CAN GIVE $35,000 OFF OF OUR TAXES EVERY OCTOBER.
TO REPAY, WOULD THE CITY BE ABLE TO BE THE LENDER IN THAT INSTANCE? MAYOR, I WOULD I WOULD BRING THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO ANSWER.
I THINK THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE IS SAYING, CAN I STAY BACK HERE? I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE HER JOB.
AND THE ANSWER, IF THERE'S AN ANSWER THAT SAYS, I'M NOT SURE I'VE GOT TO LOOK INTO IT, THAT IS FINE.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS A WORKSHOP.
WE KNOW SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE LISTENING.
WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES HERE IN CASE THEY SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THIS.
JUST A BIT OF CLARIFICATION, MAYOR.
WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CITY BEING THE LENDER, DO YOU MEAN THE CITY WOULD GUARANTEE A LOAN OR THE CITY WOULD ACTUALLY LEND? THE CITY HAS A POCKET OF $10 MILLION.
AND IN THAT SIP, WE WOULD CARVE OUT $2 MILLION TO GO TO THIS COMMUNITY TO PAY FOR THEIR IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, RIGHT, WITH SET TERMS AS A LOAN.
SO THERE IS EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY IN THE ABILITY TO HAVE REPAYMENT.
YEAH, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THIS IS.
LET'S GET BACK TO THE. LET'S GET BACK TO US.
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BRINGING UP. THESE ARE ISSUES OF FIRST IMPRESSION.OBVIOUSLY THE CITY HAS OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW PROVIDE, I CALL IT INTER-DEPARTMENT LOANS TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND SOMETIME.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ON POINT LEGALLY, WE WANT TO RESEARCH THIS ISSUE BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO BASICALLY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, RIGHT.
CAN ONE GOVERNING AGENCY SO GENTLY COMPROMISE, BE ABLE TO LEND, BE LOANED MONEY FROM THE BIGGER GENERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S WE ARE THE UMBRELLA. OKAY.
GENERALLY THE LAW PROVIDES SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT.
WE WANT TO RESEARCH IT, OF COURSE.
OKAY, I THAT'S WHY I SAID I FIGURED YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET BACK TO ME.
I PROMISE YOU, THERE'S NO LIKE HOLDING YOU TO IT OTHER THAN HOLDING YOU TO GET BACK TO US.
AND YOU'RE USING YOUR STILL YOUR BUDGET PROCESS, YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHERE IF YOU ARE BUDGETING A PROJECT NOW, YOU'RE WE'RE THE ONE COLLECTING THE AD VALOREM TAXES AS WELL AS THE ASSESSMENT.
THEY'RE COMING HERE. SO YOU'RE ADVANCING.
AND THEN THOSE FUNDS ARE DEDICATED TO PAY THAT PROJECT OFF.
BECAUSE THAT PROJECT HAS TO BE IN OUR CIP.
IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY IT'S LIKE IT'S YOUR PROJECT.
OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE CITY COMMISSION SHOULD REMAIN AS THE BOARD AND I AND I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A MAJORITY, I THINK IT WAS OFF THE TEN. IT WAS NINE OF THEM WHERE THE CITY COMMISSION WAS A LOCAL GOVERNING BODY.
I WILL ADMIT TO YOU, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY MY THOUGHT WAS, NO, YOU DON'T WANT US IN YOUR BUSINESS.
BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO HELP AND BE EFFECTIVE, IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD CALL.
YEAH, THEY BECOME A DEPENDENT DISTRICT.
YEAH, THEY'RE A DEPENDENT DISTRICT.
THEY BECOME A DEPENDENT DISTRICT, NOT AN INDEPENDENT DISTRICT.
YEAH. IF WE'RE THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY, THEN, YEAH, THEY'RE JUST AN ADVISORY BOARD.
SO THEIR MEETINGS WOULD BE PUBLIC.
YOU'RE MAKING ALL THE DECISIONS.
AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE CITY OF PLANTATION, THEY JUST TACK ON THE MEETING FOR THEM BECAUSE I ASKED HOW IS THE LOCAL GOVERNING BOARD MEET? HOW FREQUENT DO THEY MEET? AND SO THE DIRECTOR TELLS ME THAT SOMETIMES IT'S 30 MINUTES.
THE BUDGET IS IN OUR CIP, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT THE ADVISORY BOARD IS OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT IS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY BASE.
OKAY. SO AT LEAST THERE'S AN ABILITY TO THEY HAVE A SAY.
IT'S THEIR COMMUNITY. THEY SHOULD HAVE A SAY YES.
AND THE ADVISORY BOARD, IT'S ALSO A STAFF.
SO THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF PLANTATION ATTENDS THOSE MEETINGS.
BRING BACK THOSE THAT INFORMATION PACKAGES THAT INFORMATION, BRING IT TO THE GOVERNING BODY AS A PART OF THEIR MEETING, WHICH HE SAYS SOMETIME IS JUST 30 MINUTES RIGHT BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING.
SO SOME OF THE STUFF YOU SAID.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY I'M GOING, SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE LENDING PART.
THEY CAN'T DO UNLESS IT'S THROUGH THIS BEING DONE.
BUT THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT PROS AND CONS OF DOING THIS FOR A COMMUNITY.
HAVING IT ON THE TAXES, IT'S SIMILAR TO LIKE A CD.
IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHERE? YOU KNOW, WAS GUARANTEED.
THE MONEY IS GUARANTEED TO THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAXES.
SO THEREFORE, IF YOUR NEIGHBOR IS NOT ABLE TO PAY, IT'S NOT COSTING YOU.
OR IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO PAY, YOU'RE NOT COSTING YOUR NEIGHBOR EXTRA MONEY TO COVER THE DEBT, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE DOING THE WORK NEED TO BE PAID FOR THE REPAIRS. SOME OF THE NEGATIVE OR THE ITS NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE.
IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IF WE CREATE THIS FOR WHICHEVER COMMUNITY, IT IS AUTOMATICALLY TWO MILLS UP TO TWO MILLS BASED ON WHATEVER IS IN THE WORDING OF THE CREATION FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT ASKED AND REQUESTED BY THE COMMUNITY IF IT IS TO GO TO THE UP TO 500 THAT'S ON THE NON AD VALOREM, AND THAT HAS TO GO OUT TO REFERENDUM PER THE COMMUNITY.
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THAT COMMUNITY HAS TO VOTE ON IT.AND IN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT REFERENDUM CAN BE.
BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY HAVE A PROJECT THAT THEY WANT TO DO AND THEN IT NATURALLY SUNSETS OR HOWEVER OTHER WAY IT CAN BE COMPROMISED OR CREATED BY THIS COMMUNITY TO MAKE THEMSELVES SELF-DETERMINING OF WHAT THEY WANT.
YOU'RE YOU'RE CREATING THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT ASSESSMENT.
IT'S AN NON AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
AND IT'S THEIR REFERENDUM AND IT'S VOTED ON BY THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD DICTATE IF IT'S UP TO WHATEVER LENGTH, WHICHEVER AMOUNT IT IS BASED ON THAT ADVISORY BOARD AND THE BUDGETING THAT WOULD THEN BE PRESENTED TO US IF WE WERE TO DETERMINE THAT WE WERE GOING TO REMAIN, IF THEY WERE TO DETERMINE THEY WANTED US TO REMAIN.
SO THE QUESTION WAS, IS IT IN PERPETUITY? IS NOT PERPETUITY UNLESS THE COMMUNITY ASKS FOR IT TO BE IN PERPETUITY OR SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE OF WHERE THEY WOULD.
THE BOARD IS THE ADVISORY BOARD.
IT'S SEVEN UP TO SEVEN, BUT A MINIMUM OF THREE.
IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION? NO, NO, NO, I'M I'M I'M IN MY LITTLE I'M IN MY PRETEND LITTLE.
YEAH. OR MY COA MY HOA, WHICHEVER I AM.
YEAH. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE STATUTE THAT WOULD PRECLUDE THAT.
OKAY. ANY OF THE VOTES, REFERENDUMS AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT THEY ARE DOING, IT'S SIMPLE.
MAJORITY VERSUS SUPERMAJORITY OR SIMPLE MAJORITY? SIMPLE MAJORITY. RIGHT. IT SAYS MAJORITY.
YEAH, JUST THE MAJORITY. OKAY.
WHEN THEY CAN'T GET LOANS, THEY CAN GO OUT AND GET GRANTS.
YES, MOST OF THE DISTRICT OUT OF THE 3 OR 4 I WENT THROUGH AT LEAST THREE OF THEM.
GREAT. SO. IF WE'RE INVOLVED, WE'RE ABLE TO HELP WRITE THE GRANTS FOR THEM.
YES. IF THE CITY COMMISSION IS NOT INVOLVED AS THE BOARD.
IS THE CITY STILL ABLE TO WRITE THE GRANTS FOR THEM? SO WHEN YOU'RE CREATING THAT ORDINANCE IS WHAT YOU PRESCRIBE WHEN YOU'RE CREATING THAT ORDINANCE.
WHAT IS THE TIMELINE TO BE ABLE TO CREATE? THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
IT'S APRIL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
WE USUALLY HAVE TO GET STUFF TO.
SO. THAT'S ONE QUESTION ON TIME FRAME.
THE OTHER QUESTION ON TIME FRAME IS.
IF IT GOES THROUGH, SAY IT GOES THROUGH AND GETS ONTO THIS YEAR'S TAX.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE MONEY TO COME TO THE COMMUNITY? I BELIEVE I'M NOT CERTAIN OF THE DATES, BUT FOR NEW TAXATION, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW, A NEW ASSESSMENT, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE DONE THAT EARLIER.
AND IF IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD PUT ON OUR WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, IF WE CAN ALSO PUT ON THERE A CALENDAR OR A SCHEDULE THAT SAYS, IF YOU SO DESIRE TO HAVE THE CITY CREATE THIS.
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THIS IS YOUR TIME FRAME WHERE THE CITY WOULD NEED THIS AND THIS AND THIS IN ORDER TO HELP YOU WITH THE BUDGET AND GET IT IN SO WE CAN GET IT INTO OUR BUDGET.AND THEN THIS WAY WE'RE MEASURING EXPECTATIONS, BECAUSE IF WE THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO TODAY AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HELPING YOU TOMORROW, THAT'S NOT REALLY HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY IF WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH ORDINANCE.
AND WE'RE ALREADY GOING INTO OUR THIRD ROUND OF CONVERSATION FOR BUDGET THIS YEAR.
RIGHT. WE HAVE JUNE IS OUR NEXT TIME FOR BUDGET IT.
CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPLICATION, NOT ONE THAT WE CAN'T GET OVER.
BUT IF WE CAN'T LEGALLY DO IT BECAUSE THE END RESULT OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE IS NOT AVAILABLE OR ABLE TO TAKE OUR INFORMATION, THERE'S NO NEED TO RUN WITH OUR.
THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WE CAN'T ACHIEVE IT NOW.
THEY'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT MECHANISM.
AND JUST ON A SIDE NOTE, THE CONDO BILL THAT CAME OUT.
ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOW ABLE TO BORROW MONEY.
SO MAYBE WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR RESEARCH, WE CAN FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO LEGALLY USE NEIGHBOR IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT DOLLARS THAT ARE CREATED TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO REPAY DEBT OUTSIDE SOMEHOW.
TO HELP THIS INSURANCE AND RESERVE CRISIS.
I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP AND I'M.
I'VE ASKED ALL MY QUESTIONS ON THE HANDWRITING THAT I CAN ACTUALLY READ.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT OKAY.
SO WE KNOW THAT THAT THE ONES ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED.
BECAUSE NO HOA CAN DO THIS OR THEY CAN.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE RESERVES AND.
THAT'S WHY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS BASICALLY STARTING WITH CRIME PREVENTION.
THAT IS TO HELP THE COMMUNITY PAY FOR CRIME, CRIME, CRIME PREVENTION.
ALSO LANDSCAPE, WHICH IS ALSO COULD BE FOR CRIME PREVENTION AND THEN GO FORTH TO OTHER THINGS.
SUCH AS SHORING UP YOUR BUILDINGS AND WHATNOT.
CLUBHOUSES. THERE'S 180 CLUBHOUSES, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF CLUBHOUSES THAT MIGHT NEED ASSISTANCE AS WELL.
AND IT'S ATTACHED TO THE PARCEL ID, RIGHT? NOT THE HOMEOWNER OR DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
YEAH. IT'S THE TAXPAYER, THE HOMEOWNER, WHO WE'RE ASSUMING IS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
NO, IT'S ATTACHED TO THAT PROPERTY OKAY.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS CAN'T BE DONE IN RENTAL COMMUNITIES OR WHERE? WHAT HAPPENS IF A PROPERTY IS ON A FORECLOSURE PROCESS? DO WE? ARE WE IN LINE SOMEHOW TO.
IF $500 WERE ASSESSED TO GET THAT MONEY BACK.
YES, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE TAX BILL.
SO THE TAXES ALWAYS HAVE TO BE PAID.
CORRECT. AND SO WE ARE PRIMARILY WE CANNOT BE FORECLOSED.
SO DO THEY GET THE WHOLE ENTIRE AMOUNT OR IS IT NEGOTIATED LIKE THE LOAN.
NO. NO IT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN THE SO WHEN THE BANK IS GOING TO TAKE.
ACTUALLY, MOST OF THE TIME THE BANKS ALREADY PAID THE TAX BILL, SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN PAID.
IT IS A TAX BILL, UNLIKE CODE LIENS.
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TO HELP WITH WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.I SEE COMMISSIONER DANIEL HAS, I THINK.
WOULD YOU LIKE A CARD? YEAH. AND I ALSO YOUR.
BUT I SAW YOUR FINGER. GO AHEAD.
COMMISSIONER. DANIEL. NO, I THINK THERE'S SOME INNOVATION HERE.
QUESTION IS WITH CONDOS HAVING ISSUES AND WE BRING IN THIS POSSIBLY AS AN OPTION FOR THEM.
THE POT OF MONEY MIGHT RUN OUT.
SO WHERE WOULD BE THE LIMIT? OR MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED.
I'M NOT SURE. BECAUSE WHAT IF TEN APPLY AFTER HEARING THIS? I DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? YOU'RE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE THE MATTER OF LOANING THEM THE MONEY.
SO WE REALLY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO EVEN GIVE THEM THAT LOAN WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE HAVE TO, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT IF AFTER HEARING THIS DIFFERENT AND I'M ALL FOR HELPING, RIGHT.
DIFFERENT ASSOCIATION COMES AND SAYS, OKAY, WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT WOULD BE THE LIMIT, OR THE PROCEDURES OR THE PROTOCOL TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE? THE THING IS, WE'RE NOT.
I DON'T THINK, AS IT STANDS, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO GIVE THEM THE LOAN.
IT'S JUST A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY THAT WE CAN GIVE THIS ONE PERSON THE LOAN, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE OBLIGATED TO TO GIVE ANYONE TO GIVE ANYONE A LOAN.
SO IT WOULD BE WHOEVER COMES FIRST WOULD GET THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT.
AND NOR ARE YOU OBLIGATED TO CREATE DISTRICTS EVERY TIME THEY ASK.
BUT. BECAUSE IT'S JUST BEING DISCUSSED.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE DISCUSSION.
RIGHT. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS OUT THERE THAT'S GOING TO SAY, OH, THIS WOULD WORK FOR US.
YOU'RE SEEING HOW MUCH THEY WOULD BRING IN ANNUALLY EVEN IF THEY ASSESS.
AND YOU CAN SEE WITH 68 PROPERTIES, ABOUT FOUR ACRES, WHICH IN OUR RESEARCH IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE FIND ELSEWHERE, WITH WHAT THESE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS ARE LARGER IN SIZE.
PLANTATION, LIKE I SAID, WAS 800 ACRES.
ANOTHER ONE WAS ABOUT 400 ACRES.
THE ONES IN LAUDERHILL ARE BIGGER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GREATER.
AND I THINK YOU'RE SEEING A GREATER IMPACT.
SO WE WOULD YOU, AS A COMMISSION, DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN ALL BEFORE WE DO THE ORDINANCE, PUT TOGETHER SOME STANDARDS OR, YOU KNOW, OR WHETHER YOU WANT TO CREATE ONES THAT ARE MORE IMPACTFUL, THAT WOULD CREATE MORE OF AN IMPACT IN THAT COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WAS THINKING ABOUT IT UNTIL THEY BROUGHT IT UP.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, HOW WOULD IT BE? BECAUSE WHAT WE I WOULDN'T WANT THIS TO BE A11 STOP SHOP.
YOU FIX THIS ONE AND THEN WE'RE DONE, RIGHT? RIGHT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
YEAH, BUT I DO AGREE THAT IT DOES BRING TO LIGHT THE FACT THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN INNOVATIVE WAY TO ADDRESS BIGGER ISSUES WE'RE HAVING, PARTICULARLY WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AS WELL.
I THANK YOU, MAYOR. ONE OF THE BENEFITS, I BELIEVE MISS CALLOWAY ALSO MENTIONED IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS.
OKAY, THESE ARE 68 UNITS AND IT'S $34,000 PER YEAR.
THE BIGGER PICTURE IS THAT IF THAT COMMUNITY HAS PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT ARE WORTHY, THEN OF, OF GRANTS, THEN THEY CAN APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS AND GET BENEFITS FOR, FOR THOSE GRANTS.
GET, GET A BENEFIT FOR THOSE GRANTS.
YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES MAY GET $50,000 GRANTS OR MILLION DOLLAR GRANTS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE, THE ENTIRE REGION.
SO, SO THAT PARTICULAR CONDO IMPACTS LAKES OF CARRIAGE HILLS AND, AND ALL OF THESE OTHER AREAS.
SO IMPROVING THAT AREA, IMPROVING CRIME AND THAT SORT OF STUFF REALLY IMPACTS THAT ENTIRE AREA.
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SO THE BIGGER PICTURE IS, IS GRANTS AND NOT JUST NECESSARILY WHAT, WHAT WHAT THEY CAN GET THROUGH, THROUGH THE TAXES.NO. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST BENEFIT.
NO, YOU HAVE TO YOU NEED THAT STRUCTURE.
SO IF WE PUT THAT STRUCTURE IN PLACE, WE ARE THE GOVERNING BODY.
THEY DIDN'T DO THE NONE OF OUR AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT, I DON'T KNOW, THEY DID PUT A PLAN TOGETHER.
SO THEY WOULD FIRST NEED TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER.
I THINK THIS SITUATION IS YOU HAVE THEY HAVE TO DO RIGHT IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT.
WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO WITHIN THEIR DETERMINE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR IT? SO IT HAS TO BE IN THE GRANT.
I BELIEVE IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT, THEY NEED TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COLLECT FOR IT.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STOPPED IN THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY IS THEY COULDN'T DETERMINE THE UP TO TWO MILS OR UP TO 500, WHICH CREATED A PROBLEM FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T.
THEY COULDN'T WRITE IN THAT THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE REPAYING THE GRANT THROUGH THIS MANNER.
WAS A TWO MILLS UP TO TWO MILLS.
OR WAS IT $500? I THINK THAT THE ORDNANCE, IN DOING IT AND PUTTING IT THROUGH IF THEY WANT IT, GIVES THEM THE BLUEPRINT TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A GRANT.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT GOING FOR OTHER CONSTRUCTION ITEMS. SO IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S A TOOL. I PROBABLY MADE THAT MORE CONFUSING, I THINK.
I'LL REPHRASE AND MAYBE ASK IT IN A FORM OF A QUESTION FOR MAXINE OR FOR THE ATTORNEY.
MAYOR, I THINK THE ISSUE AND MISS CALLOWAY HAS WORKED WITH GRANTS THROUGHOUT HER CAREER AND MYSELF.
WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A GRANT, I THINK I WOULD SAY 90% OF THESE GRANTS ARE MATCHING GRANTS, WHICH IS WHY, SINCE THEY'RE MATCHING GRANTS, IT'S EXACTLY TO SHOW REVENUES.
EXACTLY. SO THAT'S THE QUESTION IN ORDER TO SHOW THE MATCHING REVENUE.
BEFORE WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT, DO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WE'RE COLLECTING TWO MILLS OR COLLECTING UP TO $500? DOES THAT NEED TO BE DETERMINED FIRST, OR DOES THE COMMUNITY GO OUT FOR CREATE THE NID? GO OUT FOR THE GRANTS, THEN GO OUT FOR EITHER THE REFERENDUM OR SET THE MILLAGE RATE.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THE SETTING OF THINGS FIRST BEFOREHAND.
IF THE SHOW HOW TO PAY, IT WOULD BE THE ASSESSMENT.
BUT NOT ONLY THE MATCH, BUT MOST OF THESE GRANTS COMING OUT OF DEO.
SO SO REPEAT THAT A LITTLE LOUDER OR I WILL.
AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE GRANTS ON THE REPAYMENT TIME WOULD ALSO.
WE KNOW SOME GRANTS, MEANING YOU HAVE TO FINISH THE JOB TODAY AND YOU HAVE A YEAR.
YEAH. FROM WHEN YOU GET THE GRANT TO REPAY IT.
YOU WON'T NECESSARILY. WHAT? THE GRANTS DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE REPAID.
THERE'S JUST A THEY JUST GET THE GRANT.
AND THE LOAN COULD BE ACCOMPANIED.
SO THERE IS ACTUALLY I THINK THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET.
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IS IT $25,000 OR $50,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO TO PUT THE ACTUAL PLAN TOGETHER TO TO ORGANIZE.WHAT DID I SAY? AUTHORIZES THE DISTRICT TO RECEIVE A PLANNING GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
YEAH. WHAT? DO YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WE WIND UP BEING THE CREATING ONE? DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WHERE THE GOVERNING BODY.
SO WE'RE CREATING IT. SO IS THE MONEY COMING TO US OR IS IT COMING TO THE COMMUNITY? IT'S STILL COMING TO THE COMMUNITY IS JUST A GOVERNING STRUCTURE.
IT'S JUST A GOVERNING STRUCTURE.
ANY WAY WE CAN GET SOME CAPITAL IN IN A GOOD WAY IS ALL GOOD.
I HAVE NOT HAD MY COFFEE THIS MORNING.
PROBABLY NOT THE SMARTEST THING IN THE WORLD.
BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW WHAT I'LL BE HAVING AT A BREAK.
SO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? JUST LASTLY. OKAY.
JUST A YES OR NO FROM ANY OF YOU HOW APPLICABLE IS THIS? IS THIS A GOOD IDEA FOR SHAKER VILLAGE TO.
THE YES OR NO. I'LL JUMP IN TO SAVE THEM.
ANY COMMUNITY THAT WISHES TO COME FORTH AND ASK THE CITY TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WITH THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE PRESENTED, CAN DO SO. SO COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
MAXINE AND TEAM OR MISS CALLOWAY AND YOUR FULL LONG TITLE.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING, MISS CAJUSTE.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ARE DONE WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE.
WAS THE WAS THE DIRECTION TO STAFF AT THIS TIME.
I BELIEVE STAFF IS COMING BACK TO US WITH QUESTIONS.
ANSWERS ON QUESTIONS ABOUT LOANING MONEY, HOW IT WILL WORK IF IT WOULD YEAH.
IF THE CITY CAN DO THE LOAN, IF THE IF THE CITY CAN'T DO THE LOAN, CAN MONEY BE USED FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY BORROW MONEY WITH OR REPAY LOANS WITH, OR REPAY THEIR BUDGET WITH IN SOME MANNER? THIS COMMUNITY THAT I KNOW IS WATCHING IS COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS SAID AND I'M AWARE OF AS WELL.
THEY'RE WATCHING THE MEETING. THEY'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IT.
THEY'RE NOT 100% SURE THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH IT.
BUT THOSE ARE QUESTIONS AND SOME OF THAT AS WELL.
CAN IT GO FOR ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY CONTRACTED BUT NOT YET COMPLETE.
SO WE NEED SOME ANSWERS BACK FROM THE CITY STAFF AND THEN WE'LL GET IT BACK.
AND I GUESS IT'S BEST TO COME BACK TO ANOTHER WORKSHOP SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS IN THE SUNSHINE AND GO FROM THERE AND WITH, WITH PROPOSED STANDARDS THAT THE NID WOULD FOLLOW, I THINK WE IS THERE A CONSENSUS TO HAVE THE CITY STAFF COME BACK WITH PROPOSED STANDARDS? NICE CATCH. FOR FOR FUTURE NEEDS THAT COME OUR WAY.
WAS IT THE QUESTION THAT YOU WANT? YEAH. WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY STAFF IS COMING BACK WITH A PROPOSAL FOR FUTURE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT.
SO I'VE GOT A YES, I'VE GOT A NO, COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
AND I GOT A YES. SO YOU'VE GOT YESES FOR YESES AND A SO YOU GOT CONSENSUS.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW UP TO 1VTO2552.
[1.b TO2552 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida,adopting the First (1st) Budget Amendment to the City of Tamarac operating budget,revenues and expenditures, the capital budget, and the financial policies for theFiscal Year 2024, by increasing the total revenues and expenditures by a total of$5,147,461 as detailed in Attachment “A” attached hereto and summarized inAttachment “B” attached hereto and incorporated herein; providing that the 1stAmendment is being adopted in the same manner as the original budget and servesas the new adopted budget: providing for conflicts; providing for severability; andproviding for an effective date.]
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE DEALING WITH BUDGET.WELCOME. I BELIEVE WHEN I CAME UP THE FIRST TIME, I DIDN'T SEE MY NAME.
CHRISTINE CAJUSTE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES.
AND WITH ME IS JEFF STREETER, OUR BUDGET MANAGER.
SO EVERY YEAR WE COME TO YOU WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF AT LEAST TWO BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU.
MOST OF THE ITEMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.
SO THIS IS OUR WE HAVE TO LEGALLY APPROPRIATE THOSE DOLLARS.
SO THAT'S WHY WHERE WE'RE COMING TO YOU WITH IT.
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THIS AMENDMENT IS FAIRLY ROUTINE AND ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE.AND JEFF IS GOING TO JUST RUN THROUGH A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE.
COMMISSIONERS JEFF STREETER, BUDGET MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
TEMPORARY ORDINANCE NUMBER 2552 IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT, AS CHRISTINE STATED.
BUDGET AMENDMENTS ARE GOVERNED BY FLORIDA STATUTE NUMBER ONE SIX, 6.241 AND SUBSECTION EIGHT, AND WHICH ALLOWS THE MUNICIPALITY TO AMEND ITS BUDGET ANY TIME WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR OR WITHIN UP TO 60 DAYS FOLLOWING THE END OF A FISCAL YEAR.
THE BUDGET AMENDMENT DOES HAVE TO BE ADOPTED IN THE SAME MANNER AS THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS ADOPTED, AND THE PURPOSE OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT IS TO INCREASE OR DECREASE A BUDGETED FUND, TRANSFER ALLOCATED RESOURCES BETWEEN FUNDS OR BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THE FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT INCREASES.
THE FISCAL YEAR 2024, ADOPTED BUDGET BY $5,147,461, OR 2.02%.
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ITEMS REPRESENT 22.55% OF THAT AMOUNT, AND MISCELLANEOUS AND OR FINANCIAL HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS REPRESENTS 77.45 OF THAT AMOUNT.
THIS TABLE SHOWS HOW THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF FUNDS.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT MOST OF THE AMENDMENT IS BEING MADE TO SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.
THIS IS A LIST OF THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT MAKE UP THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THE FIRST CATEGORY IS ITEMS RESULTING FROM COMMISSION ACTION IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.
ALL OF THESE RESOLUTIONS INCLUDED AN AUTHORIZATION FOR A FUTURE, FOR AN APPROPRIATION TO BE INCLUDED IN A FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENT. THE FIRST IS RESOLUTION 2020 3-116, AND THAT APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH HOMESTEAD CONCRETE AND DRAINAGE FOR THE 77TH STREET SWALE PROJECT, WHICH IS PROJECT NUMBER S.W.
23 D. NEXT IS RESOLUTION 2020 3-142.
THAT WAS THE COLLIERS INTERNATIONAL FLORIDA LLC FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS.
THE NEXT IS THE RESOLUTION 2024 016, AND THAT AMENDED THE ADOPTED SPENDING PLAN FOR THE STATE LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY. PROGRAM IN UTILIZING ARPA FUNDING.
THERE'S RESOLUTION 2020 4-021, WHICH AWARDED A BID FOR CITYWIDE TREE TRIMMING SERVICES TO GREEN DREAMZ, PARADISE CORPORATION AS THE PRIMARY CONTRACTOR, AND EDGE TREE SERVICES LLC AS THE SECONDARY CONTRACTOR.
THE NEXT CATEGORY OR GROUP OF ITEMS IS ACCOUNTING AND OR FINANCIAL HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. THE FIRST IS THE GENERAL FUND ENCUMBRANCE ROLL FORWARD FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
NEXT IS A SIMILAR AN ENCUMBRANCE ROLL FORWARD FOR THE FIRE RESCUE FUND FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
IT WAS A RATHER LARGE ENCUMBRANCE FOR THE PURCHASE OF THEIR MOTOROLA RADIOS.
THE TWO PROJECTS, TOTAL, OR THE AMOUNT OF GRANTS THAT ARE BEING BUDGETED, TOTALED $3,196,840.
AND LASTLY, THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE FIRST BEING APPROVED VIA THE FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THE FIRST IS FUNDING TO INCREASE THE COMMISSION EXPENSE ACCOUNTS FROM 6000 TO 25,000 FOR THE MAYOR AND TO 20,000 FOR COMMISSIONERS. THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS PRESENTED AND A CONSENSUS WAS OBTAINED AT THE NOVEMBER 6TH, 2023 WORKSHOP.
AND THIS IS A STRATEGIC PLANNING ITEM, A RECENT STRATEGIC PLANNING ITEM.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS.
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DEVELOPMENT TO REPLACE ONE OF THEIR EXISTING VEHICLES.WHICH IS WHY THE AMENDMENT IS NOT THE TOTAL COST OF THE TWO CARS.
WHAT HAPPENED? LASTLY, WE HAVE PERSONNEL ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED THUS FAR IN FISCAL YEAR 2024. BOTH OF THESE DO NOT HAVE A BUDGETARY IMPACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.
THE FIRST ADJUSTMENT IS IN THE PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT FACILITIES AND MANAGEMENT DIVISION.
AND NEXT WE HAVE ANOTHER ADJUSTMENT IN PUBLIC SERVICES, THE ENGINEERING DIVISION.
AND THAT WAS THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THE SENIOR ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN POSITION TO AN ENGINEER.
AGAIN, THERE IS NO BUDGETARY IMPACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR EITHER OF THESE ADJUSTMENTS.
AND CHRISTINE AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WE'RE NOW MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ONE C.
[1.c Vice Mayor Rotation Discussion Presented by City Clerk Kimberly Dillon]
THIS IS THE VICE MAYOR ROTATION DISCUSSION.THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY OUR CITY CLERK, KIMBERLY DILLON.
THANK HIM. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
COMMISSIONERS. GOOD. GOOD MORNING.
SO AT THE DECEMBER MEETINGS, DURING THE WORKSHOP ON DECEMBER 11TH AND THE COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 13TH, WE HAD DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE ROTATION OF THE VICE MAYOR . AND AT THE DECEMBER 13TH COMMISSION MEETING THERE WAS CONSENSUS BY THE BOARD TO ESTABLISH PROCEDURES ON HOW WE SELECT THE VICE MAYOR.
HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT A PROCEDURE, PER SE THAT WE FOLLOW IN ORDER TO SELECT THE VICE MAYOR.
IT SAYS THAT EVERY YEAR, NOT BEFORE THE THIRD TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER, A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS SHALL ELECT A VICE MAYOR TO SERVE FOR A YEAR, AND THEY MAY NOT DO SO WITH SUCCESSIVE TERMS. GIVEN THE DIRECTION BY THE COMMISSION.
THE TWO CITIES THAT HAD PROCEDURES BY ORDINANCE WAS GREEN ACRES AND THE SUNRISE, AND THEN DEERFIELD BEACH HAD IN THEIR CHARTER THERE WAS ANOTHER 25 CITIES THAT HAD SIMILAR PROCESS LIKE WE DO WEARING THEIR APPOINTMENT IS IN THE CHARTER, BUT THERE'S NO FORMAL PROCEDURE IN WHICH THEY FOLLOW IN SELECTING THE VICE MAYOR.
IT IS DONE THROUGH DONE SO THROUGH THEIR COMMISSION.
AND THE SAME FOR DANIA BEACH IN THE CITY OF INDIAN CREEK.
THE VICE MAYOR IS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR.
AND SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE CITY OF GREEN ACRES.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A WRITTEN PROCEDURE IN WHICH THEY FOLLOW.
IT IS THE SEQUENTIAL ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE APPOINT THE NEW IF THE VICE MAYOR WAS TO BE LIKE A NEW INDIVIDUAL TO THE COMMISSION, THEN THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD THEN WOULD THEN MOVE ON TO THE FOLLOWING SEAT AND THEN THAT THAT CURRENT SEAT THAT WAS UP WOULD THEN BE THE NEXT IN LINE TO FOR THE VICE MAYOR.
THE CITY OF DEERFIELD BEACH, WHICH IS IN THEIR CHARTER.
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AND THEN THEY LIST THE OTHERS.SEQUENTIALLY UNTIL IT STARTS OVER.
THEN THE NEXT PERSON WITH THE GREATEST LENGTH OF SERVICE AND SO FORTH, SO ON.
BUT THIS SELECTION IS DONE EVERY MARCH AFTER THEIR ELECTION.
AND THAT PERSON ONLY SERVES FOR A YEAR, SIMILAR TO OUR PROCEDURE, AND THAT'S JUST MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THEY DO SO IN DEERFIELD BEACH.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THIS INFORMATION IS ALSO IN YOUR BOOKS.
LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY. I WILL TELL YOU AS THIS POSITION.
MY CONCERN WITH A12341234 IS WE DON'T HAVE ELECTIONS IN 12341234.
IN MY OPINION, IN ORDER TO NOT HAVE ALSO NEW PEOPLE IN.
SO POTENTIALLY IN THAT SEAT, WHICH IS, I GUESS, ONE OF THE CONCERNS FOR GREEN ACRES.
IS IF YOU HAVE IT WHERE YOU'RE NOT YET RUNNING.
IT SHOULD THEN BE, IN MY OPINION, EITHER TWO AND 4 OR 4 AND TWO.
BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE STILL IN OFFICE BECAUSE THEIR ELECTION ISN'T UNTIL 26.
THE VICE MAYOR WILL GO NEXT IF HE WISHES.
SO THEN PUTTING TWO AND 4 OR 4 AND TWO INTO THE ROTATION NEXT.
ALLOWS. THEM TO HAVE OFFICE BEFORE THE END OF THEIR FIRST TERM.
IN 26, 27, 28, THEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SERVE FOR TERM IN THEIR FOUR YEAR TERM AND NOT. WORRIED ABOUT BEING ROTATED OUT.
SO IN MY MIND, THIS IS AN OPINION.
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT.
DOES THAT WORK? WAS IT WORKING ALL RIGHT? I LOST MY CELL PHONE NUMBERS AND DATES WITHOUT WRITING IT DOWN.
THAT ROTATION ALLOWS FOR EVERYBODY TO SAFELY SERVE IN THE CAPACITY.
ALL RIGHT. DON'T ALL JUMP IN IN ONE EITHER.
HE IS. I'M SORRY I WASN'T ABLE TO SEE.
SO, SO OBVIOUSLY DOCTOR DANIEL WILL GO.
THAT THAT WAS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD DEVIATE FROM THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT EASY, IT'S I THINK THE ROTATION SHOULD JUST BE FOUR, THREE, TWO, ONE.
IRRESPECTIVE OF WHOEVER IT IS, IT'S IT'S A CEREMONIAL ROLE.
IT'S IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? YOU'RE I'VE ALREADY BATTLED CANCER AND NEVER LET GO OF GRIP OF THE, THE GAVEL.
SO WE KNOW THAT THAT IT IS AND YOU KNOW AND I'M HERE FOR ANOTHER SIX YEARS.
SO WITH WITH MICHELLE GOMEZ AS THE MAYOR, YOU'LL NEVER HAVE THE GAVEL I, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT.
TEMPORARILY I THINK I BECAUSE IT WAS A RULE AT THE TIME I NEEDED TO.
BUT THAT RULE HAS BEEN SINCE CHANGED, SO IT'S GOOD.
I MEAN, I'VE SERVED AS AS VICE MAYOR BEFORE.
AND PEOPLE MAY NOT BELIEVE ME, BUT I DID NOT LIKE THE TITLE TOO MUCH.
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BECAUSE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, WOULD COME UP TO ME AND SAY, OH, SO YOU'RE THE ASSISTANT MAYOR AND YOU'RE YOU'RE MICHELLE'S ASSISTANT.THAT MUST HAVE HURT. IT DID HURT A LOT.
AND THEN, UNLIKE POPULAR BELIEF, I DON'T LIKE IT IN AN ELECTION YEAR EITHER, BECAUSE MY LAST ELECTION, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE LIKE, HEY, I'M THE VICE MAYOR, BUT I'M RUNNING FOR COMMISSIONER.
AND IT HAS TO BE AN INFORMATION CAMPAIGN.
MY OPPONENT AT THE TIME WAS TELLING PEOPLE, OH, YOU KNOW, HE'S THE VICE MAYOR.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF GAMES PLAYED AND REALLY AND TRULY I'M AT MY LAST HURRAH.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER, WHOEVER WANTS IT, YOU KNOW, CAN GET IT.
SO FOUR, THREE, TWO ONE IS PROBABLY WHAT IT IS.
AND YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE POLITICAL AMBITIONS, YOU CAN CHECK OUT FOUR, THREE, TWO, ONE AND SEE WHEN YOU'LL BE VICE MAYOR, WHEN THE THE ELECTION YEAR FOR MAYOR COMES UP AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE AT IT.
WE'VE GOT TWO FOR YOU GOT 241324132413 WHICH WORKS WITH OUR YEARS. AND THEN COMMISSIONER.
I'M SORRY. DID YOU, YOU WERE GOING NEXT AND THEN YOU STOPPED.
DID YOU? I COMMISSIONER DANIEL BASED ON THE DATA.
AND THANKS FOR REMEMBERING ME FOR NEXT YEAR.
BUT BASED ON THE DATA IT SEEMED LIKE MOST CITIES JUST KEEP IT THE SAME WAY.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING. THEY PROBABLY KNOW THE HEADACHE.
WHY THEY STAY THE WAY THEY STAY.
YOU MEAN WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE? YEAH. AND THIS KEEPS ROTATING? WITHOUT A PLAN ROTATING.
I MEAN, THE PROBLEM OCCURRED BECAUSE.
THERE WAS MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT WANTED IT.
THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM OCCURRED.
THE NEXT YEAR, PEOPLE MIGHT CHANGE THEIR MIND AND NOT LETTING ME HAVE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE STEPPING INTO ONCE WE DO THIS.
OKAY. AND I, I PERSONALLY DID NOT DO IT MY FIRST YEAR AND ASKED FOR BOLTON TO DO IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO LEARN THE JOB. HOWEVER, SOMEBODY COULD RUN FOR MAYOR WITHOUT EVER BEING MAYOR AND WIN.
NOT SAYING, BUT TECHNICALLY ANYONE CAN RUN FOR MAYOR AND BECOME A MAYOR THE FIRST TIME.
THERE'S ALWAYS A FIRST TIME WITHOUT BEING A COMMISSIONER FIRST.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THE LOGICS.
YOU KNOW. I DON'T CARE EITHER WAY.
THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH DOCTOR DANIELS.
I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT THE SAME.
AND AS WE STATED IN DECEMBER, HER SHOE WOULD BE NEXT.
WHICH WHICH EVERYONE WOULD GET A CHANCE.
I THINK 25 CITIES, THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIES IN BROWARD COUNTY.
THERE'S A REASON THEY'RE DOING IT THAT WAY.
I THINK BY US KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS, IT TAKES THE, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE OUT OF IT.
I THINK, MADAM MAYOR, WHEN YOU WERE COMMISSIONER, YOU SERVED FOUR TIMES IN EIGHT YEARS.
YES. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO REMEMBER WHAT KIND OF COMMISSION THAT WE HAD.
AND PEOPLE WERE IN AND OUT OF BEING ON THE DAIS.
SO LET'S JUST REMEMBER CERTAIN THINGS.
IT WAS JUST WHAT IT WAS JUST ALL I'M SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO CHANGE, COME ALONG, WE CHANGE THE RULES WHEN NEW PEOPLE COME ALONG, WHEREAS OTHER PEOPLE GOT THE BENEFIT OF THE PREVIOUS RULES.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD JUST KEEP IT THE SAME.
WE AGREED THAT DOCTOR DANIEL WAS GOING TO BE NEXT AND WE JUST KEEP IT AS IT IS.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAJORITY RULES.
ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I THINK I WAS THE ONE THAT SUGGESTED THAT THE NEXT VICE MAYOR WOULD BE COMMISSIONER DISTRICT THREE, BECAUSE WE HAD GONE FROM DISTRICT ONE TO DISTRICT TWO.
AND WE CAN CHECK THE RECORD, BUT I'M ALMOST CERTAIN THAT'S I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THAT UP.
AND THEN IN 2020 SIX WOULD BE DISTRICT FOUR.
JUST TO KEEP ORDER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ORDER.
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AND I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THOSE 25 CITIES ENCOUNTERED THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.SO IT ALTHOUGH IT'S CEREMONIAL, THE PERCEPTION OF THE COMMUNITY IS HUGE, HAS A HUGE IMPACT.
JUST BECAUSE OF THE WORD, THE WORDS VICE MAYOR.
SO IT CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT.
I DON'T THINK THOSE 25 CITIES HAVE HAD THE POSSIBILITY TO BRING THIS UP FORWARD, LIKE HOW WE'RE DOING THIS NOW, AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT UP IS BECAUSE IT BECAME AN ISSUE FOR US.
WE USUALLY PEOPLE PLAY POLITICS TO BE VICE MAYOR ON THEIR ELECTION YEAR.
AND I CAN SAY WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT.
WHAT OUR PREVIOUS VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, TOOK ON VICE MAYOR DURING 2022 FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND FOR WHEN, YOU KNOW LET IT GO FOR THIS YEAR FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES.
SO IT'S NOT CEREMONIAL BECAUSE WE PLASTER OUR FACES WITH VICE MAYOR ALL OVER THE CITY.
WE HAVE SEEN IT IN DISTRICT TWO.
I HAVE SEEN IT IN DISTRICT THREE.
WHY IS ANYONE ON THIS COMMISSION PUTTING STICKERS ON BUSINESS WINDOWS THAT SAY VICE MAYOR ON IT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF IT'S CEREMONIAL, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD NOT BE OCCURRING.
SO I DO LIKE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID WHEN IT COMES TO TWO AND FOUR, 4 OR 4 AND TWO, THREE AND ONE AND ONE AND THREE, BECAUSE IT GIVES EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY.
IRREGARDLESS. BECAUSE LIKE WHAT YOU SAID.
COMMISSIONER. DANIEL, PEOPLE WILL CHANGE THEIR MIND.
SO THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR MIND.
JUST THE SAME WAY THAT SOMEONE RECOMMENDED YOU TO BE COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR, BUT THEN.
I CHANGED MY MIND, CONSIDERING THAT VICE MAYOR.
OTHERWISE WE'LL BE FIGHTING ALL THE TIME AND PEOPLE TAKE IT PERSONAL.
PEOPLE TAKE THESE ROLES REALLY PERSONAL.
AND IT MEANS A LOT TO PEOPLE, EVEN MYSELF.
WHEN I WAS VICE MAYOR, THE FIRST YEAR I'VE BEEN ELECTED, IT WAS FOR PEOPLE.
I DIDN'T I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE HOW MUCH OF A BIG DEAL IT WAS.
I'M JUST THINKING, OKAY. YEAH, IT'S JUST A NAME TAG I CAN TO PUT IT ON MY SHIRT.
BUT FOR THE PEOPLE, IT MAKES A BIG IMPACT.
THEIR PERCEPTION IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN THEY CALL YOU COMMISSIONER.
SO WITH THAT, WE DO NEED A PROCESS, COMMISSIONER.
DANIEL. YEAH. OH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
SO I'VE NEVER BEEN VICE MAYOR, SO I DON'T KNOW THE PERCEPTION PART.
I TRUST THAT YOU GUYS WILL DO IT NEXT YEAR FOR ME.
I'M JUST. I JUST HAVE TO TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL BE.
THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
BUT I DO TRUST THAT YOU WON'T CHANGE YOUR MIND.
HOWEVER, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THE MAYOR SAID SHE HAD TO SERVE FOUR YEARS.
THERE MIGHT BE A BOARD AFTER US THAT DON'T WANT THIS.
MAYBE ONE OF US MIGHT NOT WANT IT WHEN OUR OPPORTUNITY COME RIGHT.
MAYBE THERE WILL BE A CRAZY PERSON ON HERE.
AND WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE VICE MAYOR.
I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
I'M JUST SAYING, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT US.
OBVIOUSLY, ANYONE HERE CAN DO IT.
BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. SOMEBODY MIGHT COME AND HAVE DEMENTIA, I DON'T KNOW.
AND I TRUST THEM. BELIEVE THAT YOU I WILL BE AT NEXT TIME.
BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY OF YOU CHANGING YOUR MIND FOR ANY REASON.
I DON'T PLAN TO LOSE MY MIND, SO I'LL BE JUST FINE.
WE ALL HAVE LOST OUR MINDS A LITTLE BIT.
LOOK AT WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING, VICE MAYOR.
JUST TO COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS POINT THAT YOU KNOW, VICE MAYOR IS A BIG TITLE.
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I THINK WHEN YOU'RE VICE MAYOR TO MAYOR GOMEZ IS LIKE BEING BRONNY JAMES TO LEBRON JAMES.YOU KNOW, SHE'S IT'S A LOT OF HARD SHOES TO FILL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE WALKING IN THE SHOES OF SOMEONE WHO PLAYS THE ROLE OF MAYOR VERY WELL.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, PEOPLE LOOK AT YOU IN A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE THEY, THEY SOMETIMES SEE YOU AS BEING NEXT IN LINE, WHEREAS IT IS A CEREMONIAL TITLE.
BUT I THINK YOUR YOUR END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE STILL THE COMMISSIONER THAT REPRESENTS A DISTRICT.
AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE TITLE IS, IS JUST A CEREMONIAL TITLE.
SO I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORIC NATURE OF YOU, YOU BECOMING VICE MAYOR.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
AND I DON'T THINK NONE OF US ARE CRAZY.
I THINK ALL OF US ARE SANE PEOPLE.
I THINK IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO USE DEMOCRACY AND THE POWER OF THREE TO PICK THE PERSON THAT WE THINK WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT PERSON THAT WE WOULD WANT AS THE VICE MAYOR.
WE MAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY RIGHT THERE AND THEN.
SO YOU KNOW, TO TO DOCTOR DANIEL WHILE YOU WAITED FOR YOUR MOMENT IN HISTORY, I THINK IT WILL COME.
AND WE CAN'T BE TOO FACED TO DELAY HISTORY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TO COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS POINT SOMETIMES BEING VICE MAYOR OR THE PROCESS THEREOF BECOMES POLITICAL.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN IN THE POSITION OF THIS ROLE BEING POLITICAL WHEN I WAS BEING CONSIDERED SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT UP TO CHANCE OR FREE FALL.
I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE STRUCTURE AND IRRESPECTIVE OF.
REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER THE REASONS WERE WHY? COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS WAS VICE MAYOR ON THE LAST OCCASION? HE WAS VICE MAYOR THE VERY FIRST YEAR THAT HE GOT IN.
AND I DON'T THINK HE DID A BAD JOB.
I DON'T I DON'T THINK IN THE PAST WHEN YOU WERE A VICE MAYOR, YOU DID A BAD JOB.
YOU KNOW, AND SO I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FOUR THREE, TWO ONE RULE.
WOULD WOULD WORK BEST, YOU KNOW.
COMMISSIONER DANIEL GOES IMMEDIATELY NEXT AND THEN DISTRICT THREE GOES NEXT AND DISTRICT TWO GOES NEXT, AND DISTRICT ONE GOES LAST TO COMMISSIONER.
VICE MAYOR'S VICE MAYOR WRIGHT'S POINT.
I'VE BEEN VICE MAYOR TWICE, AND SO I'M PUTTING MYSELF LAST.
SO BY MY ESTIMATION, I'D BE VICE MAYOR THE VERY FINAL YEAR THAT I'M HERE.
BUT IF NOT, WHOEVER IS HERE AT THAT TIME WOULD BE VICE MAYOR AS WELL.
IT ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THEN SENIORITY IN THAT CASE.
YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A, IT'S A BEST OF BOTH WORLDS KIND OF THING.
SO I THINK FOR THREE, TWO, ONE WORKS.
IT GIVES VICE MAYOR WRIGHT ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BE VICE MAYOR AGAIN SINCE I'VE GONE TWICE.
SO IF I PUT MYSELF BEFORE HIM, THEN I'D GO THREE TIMES BEFORE HIM.
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YEAH, IT'S IT'S LOGIC AND EXPLAINING THE LOGIC.YOU'LL BE BUNNY AND I'LL BE CLYDE.
HAVE TO BE JAMAICAN TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO, SO SO FOR, YOU KNOW, DEMANDS HISTORY.
TWO MAKES IT FAIR TO MAKE SURE THAT HE GOES AGAIN.
ONE. YOU KNOW, IT'S THE GRAND FINALE.
RIGHT. SO IT IS, IT IS IT IS WHAT IT IS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP IT THE SAME, IT'S IT'S FINE.
IT'S IT'S AGAIN, IT'S JUST A ROLE.
AND WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IS HANDSOME FACES ON A DOOR.
I MEAN, YOU CAN PUT ON YOUR WALKING SHOES.
I MEAN, I LOST MAYBE, LIKE 17 POUNDS.
YOU CAN PUT ON YOUR WALKING SHOES AND YOU CAN DO THAT.
AND WHEN YOU KNOW COMMISSIONER DANIEL BECOMES VICE MAYOR.
DANIEL, I'D HELP HER TO DO THE SAME THING.
GO FROM BUSINESS TO BUSINESS, YOU KNOW? AND. MAKE SURE HER PHOTO IS IS THERE? I DID IT WHEN I WAS VICE MAYOR.
I STARTED A BUSINESS INITIATIVE TO SUPPORT.
NO, NO. NOW WE'RE STOPPING YOUR CAMPAIGN SPEECH.
NO, NO STOPPING YOUR CAMPAIGN SPEECH.
I'M JUST LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THAT THAT FACE.
I'M. THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S YOUR FACE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS, EVERYBODY KNOWS.
AND THE ONLY THING. MY FACE IS NOT ON THIS TOILET PAPER, RIGHT? YEAH. FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD.
YEAH, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AS I'M NOT THAT CREATIVE.
BUT I DID LIKE IT. ANYWHO, SO SHOULD I HAVE A COMMENT? COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
SO I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A PROCESS, AND I DO WANT A PROCESS.
SO CONSIDERING THAT THERE IS A PROCESS AND THE WAY IT WAS LAID OUT WE WON'T LOSE COMMISSIONER DANIELS DECISION TO TO DO THAT, AND THEN 2026, I'LL TAKE THE ROLE AS WELL.
I WOULDN'T CARE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD THIS PROCESS KEEPING THE PROCESS I SUGGESTED.
IN LINE WHILE SHE'S IN OFFICE FOR NEXT YEAR.
IT IS SCHEDULED FOR D THREE IF YOU GO THE WAY I WAS SHARING IT.
BECAUSE IN 26 THE MAYOR, DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT FOUR ARE UP.
THAT IS, WHEN DISTRICTS ONE AND DISTRICT THREE ARE UP.
2033. THAT'S WHEN THE MAYOR, TWO AND FOUR ARE UP.
WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHERE THERE WAS ALLEGEDLY CONCERN, AND IT KEEPS IT IN A ROTATION AND ASSURANCE THAT EVERYBODY GETS IN DURING THEIR FOUR YEARS ONE TIME.
AS VICE MAYOR, I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTARY.
ALL RIGHT. WHATEVER JENNA SAID IT HAD OR HAS, IT HAS, HOWEVER YOU HANDLE IT IS HOW YOU HANDLE IT.
SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S A COMPLIMENT.
WHEN DEALING WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S THE MAYOR.
SOME PEOPLE THINK IT'S A NEGATIVE WHEN DEALING WITH SOMEONE, IT'S HOW YOU PERCEIVE LIFE IN GENERAL.
EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE, BECAUSE THERE ARE TERM LIMITS.
BUT AT LEAST THROUGH THIS TIME, IT IS, IN MY OPINION, THE PLAN I AM ASKING TO BE ACCEPTED IF WE WANT TO HAVE A PLAN IS THE ONE THAT I THINK IS MOST FAIR. IF YOU WISH TO CHANGE 1 IN 3 FOR THREE AND ONE, THAT'S UP FOR CONVERSATION.
BUT SINCE WE'VE ESTABLISHED TWO, WE THEN ESTABLISH FOUR.
AND SO THAT IS I WILL SUPPORT EITHER KEEPING IT AS IS.
FOR MY PLAN. I CANNOT SUPPORT THE 4321 PLAN ONLY BECAUSE IT ONLY WILL CREATE THE SIMILAR PROBLEMS
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OR POTENTIAL PROBLEMS OF HAVING SOMEBODY NEW IN.AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO.
I DON'T THINK IT RESOLVES THAT ONE ITEM.
I WILL GO WITH YOUR PROCESS BECAUSE STILL MIXES IN WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON SUGGESTIONS.
SO IT JUST CHANGES THE 2720 AND THE ROTATION THERE, RIGHT? SO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
THEN I'LL JUST KEEP IT THE SAME, OKAY? THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. KEEPING IT THE SAME.
KEEPING IT THE SAME AS I SAID, BECAUSE I SUGGESTED IT.
THERE YOU GO. WE'RE KEEPING IT THE SAME.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, DUE TO THE TIMING OF THINGS AND THE REALITY THAT THE NEXT CONVERSATION IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN 20 MINUTES AND WE ARE HAVING A BREAK AROUND NOON, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP TO ONE E THE DISCUSSION ON AHAC.
[1.e Discussion on AHAC Requested by Commissioner Elvin Villalobos]
THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.YES, IT'S VERY SIMPLE JUST TO GET A CONSENSUS TO NOMINATE VICE MAYOR AS THE COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO THIS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AUTHORITY COMMITTEE.
THIS IS THE LOCAL ONE FOR OUR CITY, WHERE YOU CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE REPRESENTATIVE.
CORRECT? IF HE DOES NOT ACCEPT THE ROLE, WOULD YOU BE STEPPING DOWN? NO. OKAY. SO THAT IS WHAT'S BEFORE US.
VICE MAYOR, I AM NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE ROLE.
I'M GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK YOU'VE BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB.
I THINK IT FITS INTO YOUR SKILL SET.
SO I'LL ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE TO SERVE.
ALL RIGHT. GOING ON TO ONE F CANCELLATION OF APRIL 22ND MEETING OF OUR REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING.
[1.f Cancellation of the April 22, 2024 Regular Commission Meeting.]
THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APRIL 24TH, BUT DUE TO HOLIDAYS, IT WAS MOVED TO MONDAY THE 22ND.AND MISS CALLOWAY, IS THIS YOURS OR IS THIS.
DON'T ALL JUMP FORWARD AT ONCE.
SO, BASED ON LOOKING AT OUR FUTURE AGENDA WORKSHEET, WE REALIZE THAT WE ONLY HAD TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 22ND PROPOSED ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA FOR THE 22ND.
SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'D BE NO COMMISSION MEETING THAT WEEK.
ESSENTIALLY THERE WAS ONE BECAUSE ONE ITEM.
OKAY. I'LL DO WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION WANTS.
COMMISSIONER, DANIEL. I'M FINE WITH IT.
I'M FINE. IT'S ONLY. YOU SAID IT'S ONLY ONE ITEM.
YES, IT'S ONE ITEM THAT'S NOT TIME SENSITIVE.
THAT CAN BE INCLUDED ON THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY.
YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT'S MEETING FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY.
FIRST START OF THE DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH, I GUESS THERE'S A PRESENTATION.
[1.d Discussion and Direction on allocation of the Woodlands Development Agreement$925,000 Developer contribution for distribution to various Homeowner Associations outside of the Woodlands Community impacted by theDevelopment of the Project (Paragraph 21(c)). Presented by Assistant City Manager & Community Development Director, MaxineCalloway]
FOR ITEM 1D.DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION OF ALLOCATION OF WOODLANDS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT $925,000.
THANK YOU. YOU HAVE NOBODY ELSE IN.
YES. AND AS YOU KNOW COMMISSION, MAYOR AND COMMISSION THAT THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED RELATIVE TO OBLIGATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER.
ONE OF THOSE OBLIGATIONS, OF COURSE, IS CONTAINED IN PARAGRAPH 21, C, WHICH SPECIFICALLY THE LANGUAGE IS ON THE SCREEN A $925,000 DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION FOR DISTRIBUTION TO VARIOUS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
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THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT IS CONTAINED IN THE AGREEMENT.AND SO THE PRESENTATION JUST HAS A BLANK LIST.
I SEE YOU LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
I'VE ASKED COLETTE TO BRING DOWN COPIES FOR YOU SO WE CAN WRITE TOGETHER.
SO THERE'S NO REAL PRESENTATION.
SORRY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO NEED HER TO BRING US ARE THE LISTS.
AND THE CURRENT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAVE THAT STRICKEN.
THERE'S NO LIST OF COMMUNITIES.
SO WHAT WAS NEGOTIATED? WHAT WAS CONTAINED INITIALLY WAS ESTABLISHED LIST OF HIGHWAYS THAT THIS BODY AGREED TO HAVE STRICKEN IN ITS ENTIRETY.
SO THE LANGUAGE IN 21 C IS AS YOU SEE THERE.
GOTCHA. OKAY. MAXINE, YOU COULD YOU COULD GIVE THEM THE LIST THAT WAS REDACTED.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PULL UP THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? I DON'T THINK I THINK WE HAVE A CLEAN VERSION IN THERE SO WE CAN PUT IN THE.
WE CAN. CAN YOU DISTRIBUTE THIS, PLEASE? THIS IS JUST FOR YOU TO WRITE AS.
YOU TELL ME. WHAT? MAYOR, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN TAKE.
LET'S JUST DO THIS. THE REALITY IS, WE TAKE A QUICK BATHROOM BREAK.
WE'RE GOING TO BE CALLING IT FOR LUNCH.
THAT'S ALREADY HERE OR ON ITS WAY BEING SET UP.
OPINION IS THAT WE CAN BE VERY FIVE LUNCHES HERE.
ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT CALLING LUNCH THEN? AND I WANTED TO KNOW HOW I WAS WAITING FOR YOU.
I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST WAITING TO SEE.
HOW MUCH TIME SHOULD WE JUST PUT THIS IN RECESS AND THEN COME BACK? BECAUSE IT IS HERE. THEY'RE JUST PUTTING THE PLACE OUT.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A FIVE MINUTE BATHROOM BREAK.
GOING TO BE CALLING A LUNCH RECESS ANYWAY.
WERE WE CALLING IT FOR AN HOUR A BREAK OR.
AN OUTBREAK. SO COME BACK AT 1245.
THAT WORKS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1245.
THANK YOU. AND WELCOME BACK TO OUR COMMISSION WORKSHOP.
IT IS STILL MONDAY THE EIGHTH, BUT IT IS 1246 AND WE ARE ON ITEM ONE D OUR DISCUSSION DIRECTION ON ALLOCATION OF THE WOODLANDS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT $925,000. DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION FOR DISTRIBUTION TO VARIOUS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS OUTSIDE THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
I THINK SOMETHING IMMEDIATELY IN THE TITLE IS AN ISSUE, ISN'T THERE? IT'S NOT COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERATION.
IF WE CAN PULL UP THE AGREEMENT, WE CAN SCROLL UP.
JIM, JUST ON THE VERY BEGINNING.
SO THAT'S THE LANGUAGE DEVELOPER ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE MAY BE IMPACTS OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING WOODLANDS COMMUNITY, AND AGREES TO CONTRIBUTE $925,000 DIRECTLY TO THE CITY FOR DISTRIBUTION TO VARIOUS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE OF THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY, WHICH MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE REST OF IT.
THANK YOU. YES, THE REST ARE THE.
THAT'S THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY LISTED THAT HAVE SINCE BEEN REMOVED, BECAUSE THE CONSENSUS OF THIS COMMISSION WAS THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO ASSOCIATIONS LISTED.
CAN YOU STILL SCROLL DOWN? I THINK THAT DURING BREAK WE HAD REQUESTED.
AND TO MAKE IT EASIER, I HAD MY STAFF JUST LIST THESE AWAY IN A LIST IF JAMES WANT TO PRINT IT UP.
IF IT'S HARD TO READ, READ WITH THE STRIKETHROUGH.
YEAH. IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD THIS PRINTED.
SO WE CAN YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS PRINTED.
YES. AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THIS AS WELL IN CASE YOU NEED TO TAKE NOTES AS WE GO ALONG.
SO LET ME ASK COLLECTIVE OKAY.
DID EVERYONE GET THIS OR DO I JUST HAVE EVERYBODY'S COPY BY ACCIDENT? I THINK YOU HAVE EVERYBODY'S COPY.
THAT'S FOR YOU TO WRITE THE NEW ONES.
AND THEN I'M ASKING SHOULD BE DISTRIBUTED.
I IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A DISTRICT ONE.
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HOA. DID YOU JUST SAY YOU DESIGNATE YOURSELF AS A DISTRICT? THE LIST THAT YOU PREPARED FOR US.IN DISTRICT ONE, I THOUGHT WE HAD AGREED.
YEAH, THIS LIST THAT IS UP HERE CURRENTLY IS JUST FOR EASE OF KNOWING WHICH COMMUNITIES WERE LISTED.
IT IS NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE ALL GETTING ANYTHING OR GETTING.
IF THERE'S NOT ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT COULD GET SOMETHING.
THIS WAS WHAT WAS REDLINED OUT.
AND SO NOW WE HAVE $925,000 THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE TO DISTRIBUTE.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR DIRECTION.
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. NO, IT'S $925,000.
YES. IT'S. HOWEVER, YOU DIRECT US TO DISTRIBUTE OR ALLOCATE 925 IS A TOTAL.
THE REASON THIS IS HERE, THIS WAS ONCE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
YOU ALL VOTED TO STRIKE IT OUT.
BUT JUST BEFORE WE BREAK, YOU ASK JUST TO SEE WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
SO AS I RECALL, IT WAS 750 FOR SHAKER VILLAGE, AND THEN WE HAD THE 925 THAT WE DECIDE WILL WILL WILL BIFURCATE WHEN WE MAYBE.
YEAH. SO THIS IS LET ME JUST ISN'T THE MONEY FOR SHAKER VILLAGE SEPARATE.
BUT YEAH. BUT BUT BUT WE I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION.
YEAH. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE THERE WAS CONVERSATION AT THAT MEETING, AN AGREEMENT THAT THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY NEEDED MORE THAN JUST THE. 175 THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO IT.
IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
SO IN PARAGRAPH 21 IS YOUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS.
YOU HAVE $250,000 FOR THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE MASTER PLAN.
THAT PAYMENT IS TO BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME THIS PAYMENT IS MADE.
YOU HAVE $750,000 TOWARDS THE LANGUAGE, READS PROPOSED SHAKER VILLAGE, EAST SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER OR ANY NEW COMMUNITY CENTER TO BE DEVELOPED BY THE CITY.
IN PARAGRAPH C IS THIS LANGUAGE? $925,000 DIRECTLY TO THE CITY TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO VARIOUS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY, WHICH MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT, SAID PAYMENT TO BE MADE 30 DAYS AFTER THE APPLICATION APPEAL PERIOD, AND THEN YOU HAVE $250,000 TOWARDS THIS PARAGRAPH IS PARAGRAPH D THAT LISTS VARIOUS CHARITIES SO I CAN READ ALL THE CHARITIES OR WE CAN PULL IT UP HERE.
BUT PARAGRAPH D IS FOR VARIOUS CHARITIES.
THE BROAD OUTREACH CENTER GETS 75 RAFA CENTER, INC.
25. SO THERE'S VARIOUS CHARITIES IN PARAGRAPH D.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE AGREEMENT.
SO THIS IS THE ONLY PROVISION THAT WE HAVE NO DIRECTION.
SO WE'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU'D LIKE US TO ALLOCATE AND DISPERSE.
YEAH. I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING, I THINK.
I THINK IT WAS THAT THE 925 WE FELT MORE OF IT SHOULD HAVE GONE TOWARDS THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY WHO WERE WHO WERE IMPACTED BY, BY WHO WAS IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THAT IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY? CITY CLERK JUST THE CITY CLERK IS LOOKING AT THOSE MINUTES NOW TO SEE IF WE CAN VERIFY.
OKAY, THERE'S ONE THING TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING TO LOOK TO.
BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE VICE MAYOR, FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS DECEMBER 13TH FOR THE DISCUSSION, AND IT WAS GOING BACK TO THE POOL OF REDOING IT, BUT THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY WAS NOT STRICKEN OUT OF IT.
I DON'T THINK THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY WAS EVER IN THIS DISCUSSION.
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THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY HAD ITS SEPARATE POCKET OF MONEY, AND THIS WORK WAS OUTSIDE OF THE WOODLAND.WHAT WE AGREED UPON WAS THAT IT WOULDN'T.
AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR A MAP, BECAUSE ONE OF THE PLACE, I THINK IT WAS THINGUM SOMEONE BROUGHT UP, I THINK IT WAS ELVIN THAT IT WASN'T IN THE VICINITY.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU FOR A MAP TO SEE.
EXACTLY. THAT WAS THE ONLY DISCREPANCY.
I REMEMBER BEING DISCUSSED REGARDING THESE.
AND THEN YOU TWO GOT INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE ITEMS. IT MIGHT IMPACT DISTRICT ONE THE MOST BECAUSE IT'S WOODLANDS IS LIKE SURROUNDED BY DISTRICT ONE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
FOR ME, HOWEVER, IT WAS NEVER WITH THE WOODLANDS AND THE THE THING WAS, IT WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE WOODLANDS WHEN THE WOODLANDS HAD BEEN ASKING FOR CERTAIN THINGS AND IT WAS ONLY RECEIVING A PALTRY ITEM.
AND THAT'S WHY THE DISCUSSION CAME UP OF WHERE IT WAS PER HOME, AND THE WHOLE DISCUSSION WAS HAD REGARDING IT CAME OUT TO APPROXIMATELY $200 PER HOME, AND THAT THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WERE GOING FOR THE BENEFIT OUTSIDE.
MAYLANDS EIGHT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT.
BUT IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE THAT IS THAT 64TH PART OF IT ABUTS IT.
BUT I DON'T RECALL ANYTHING OF AN AGREEMENT TO NOT INCLUDE THE WOODLANDS IN THERE.
I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT.
I'M SORRY, MAYOR, I APOLOGIZE.
I THINK THE WOODLAND IS THE ONE GETTING MAJORITY OF THE GAME.
LIKE THEY'RE GETTING BASICALLY A COMMUNITY REBUILT, SO TO SAY, WOODLAND NOT GETTING IN.
ARE YOU GETTING THE BULK OF EVERYTHING? SO I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK OUTSIDE DIRECTLY OUTSIDE OF WOODLAND.
HOW CAN WE BUILD THE CITY UP THE DIFFERENT HOA THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE TRAFFIC? MAYBE WE ALL WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE TRAFFIC TO MAKE OUR CITY LOOK BETTER, BE BETTER AND NOT BE A BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS.
IT IS A FULLY DEVELOPED COMMUNITY, HAVING SOMETHING GROWING OUT WITHIN IT.
AND SO WHILE THE NEW THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THERE WILL BENEFIT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY, THE BURDEN THAT IS BEING PLACED ON IT WAS THE REASON FOR WHY THE EXISTING COMMUNITY WAS SEEKING MORE FROM.
THIS BECAUSE OF THE NEEDS THAT IT HAS THAT ARE NOT BEING MET.
TO WHICH I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH HELPING OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
ALSO, I THINK SOME OF THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE PREMATURE.
WE ALSO HAVEN'T FINISHED SOME OF THE DISCUSSION ON HOW.
NEVER MIND. YOU KNOW I'M GOING.
YOU TAKE IT. YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ONE.
YOU WERE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
YEAH. I JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WAS NEVER IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SO MUCH THINGS AROUND IT, YOU KNOW? BUT I REMEMBER THERE WAS A POOL OF MONEY.
I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS THIS AMOUNT.
AND I THINK THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING MONEY DISTRIBUTED TO EACH HOME IN THE WOODLANDS, AND I KIND OF AGREED WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES WHO WERE GOING TO BE IMPACTED. YES, THE DEVELOPMENT HAS HAPPENED IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
SO I THINK I IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, I RECALL AGREEING WITH THE MAYOR THAT MORE OF THAT MONEY SHOULD GO TOWARDS THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY AND BENEFIT THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.
SO MAYBE WE WE HAVE TO PULL THE TAPE.
AND THEN LOOK, LOOK BACK AT THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE KIND OF AGREED UPON.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL POOL OF MONEY.
THERE WAS ANOTHER BATCH OF MONEY, MAYBE.
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MORE OF IT SHOULD GO TOWARDS THE WOODLAND COMMUNITY.I REMEMBER HAVING THAT THAT DISCUSSION.
SO I'M GONNA INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND.
THE RADIUS OF HOW FAR WE'RE DISCUSSING SPENDING SOME OF THIS MONEY AND THE ABILITY TO SAY, IS THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY AFFECTING THIS COMMUNITY MORE THAN IT IS AFFECTING THIS COMMUNITY? IF WE'RE ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSING ALLOCATIONS.
SO MAY I SAY SOMETHING TOO ON THAT? MISS MAXINE, CAN WE DO WE KNOW MORE OR LESS THE ROAD AND THE HIGHWAY THAT WILL BE USED THE MOST TO GET TO THE WOODLANDS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE THE TURNPIKE COMMERCIAL WILL BE ROCK ISLAND HAVING ACCESS ON COMMERCIAL ON 64TH AND ON ROCK ISLAND.
WE ATTEMPTED TO GET ACCESS ON 44TH AND WE WON'T.
SO ROCK ISLAND 64TH AND COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.
SO THE INGRESS EGRESS FOR THE PROJECT.
SO IF I MAY SAY, THEN THAT'S OUR FOCUS AREA, THOSE COMMUNITIES.
BECAUSE BECAUSE IT IS IN MY OPINION, THAT'S THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.
BUT OF COURSE, THE MAIN ONE, AS YOU BOTH ARE SAYING, WOODLANDS IS OF COURSE THE MOST IMPACTED.
AND I KNOW THAT 13TH FLOOR IS GOING TO DO RESTORATION.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO RESTORATION.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE WOODLANDS BOULEVARD IN CHAMPS.
SO. AND ANOTHER THING TOO AM I SPEAKING OR THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT'S REALLY THE VICE.
SO WE CAN SAY IT'S TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR COMMUNITIES.
BUT FOR ALL WE KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE USED FOR PAYING DOWN DEBT.
SO. SAYING THAT IT'S FOR IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
WE DON'T KNOW TO THE EXTENT OF IT, NOR ARE WE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS MONEY.
WE NEED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IN MY OPINION.
I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS OBSOLETE, NULL AND VOID.
SO YEAH. SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT KIND OF.
YEAH. YEAH. SHOULD I TAKE IT NOW.
YEAH. LET'S, LET'S LET'S PUT THE MAP OF THE 925.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO ON THAT.
ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON. YOU'RE DONE.
YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE.
THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY. TO DRAW.
GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER DANIEL. THANK YOU.
AND I AGREE REGARDING THE ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT I WAS ONE OF THE DECIDING VOTE FOR THIS AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASON WHY I VOTED FOR IT. ONE, THEY HAD A MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS SAYING THAT THEY WANTED BASED ON THE COUNT TWO, IT WOULD POSITIVELY THEY DID SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS GREAT.
THEY PUT ALLOCATIONS IN THE AGREEMENT TO POSITIVELY IMPACT THE CITY.
IF ALL THIS ALLOCATION IS GOING BACK TO WOODMAN, I, I JUST VOTED YES FOR THE CDC, WHICH I HAVE SOME WORMS ABOUT BASED ON STUFF NOT BEING CHANGED AFTER MY MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER.
IF THIS STUFF IS NOT POSITIVELY IMPACTING THE CITY OF TAMARAC EVERYBODY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT MY AGREEMENT WAS PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE POSITIVE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE CITY, NOT JUST THE WOODLANDS.
WELL, LET'S IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING, I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE I VOTED FOR IT.
UNLIKE VICE MAYOR, HE DID NOT VOTE.
ACTUALLY, I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY IF I CAN.
THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND IT'S IT'S IMPACT THE TIRE CITY.
BUT THIS DISCUSSION AND USUALLY FOR DEVELOPER DOLLARS IT'S THE SURROUNDING AREA.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UNIVERSITY.
AND ACTUALLY I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT STUFF CONSTANTLY GET CHANGED FROM ITS ORIGINAL.
I'LL WAIT TILL WEDNESDAY, BUT.
BUT I THINK AND I AGREE WITH HIM ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
ABSOLUTELY. GIVE THE WHOLE MONEY TO THE CITY THEN.
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AND WE DO A CITY BEAUTIFICATION.I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT TOO.
BUT ADDING IN THERE FOR I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THERE'S A START OF THE CONVERSATION IS JUST WHEN HEARING LOOKING AT IT, SEEING THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE NOT INCLUDED THAT WERE THOUGHT TO BE INCLUDED, JUST LIKE YOU IS WHAT I'M IS HEARING FROM THE VICE MAYOR AND MYSELF.
WE THOUGHT CERTAIN OF THE THINGS WERE FOR INCLUSION IN THE DISCUSSION, NOT EXCLUSION.
SO STILL, THERE'S A LIST OF COMMUNITIES THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
I WANT TO ADD IN THERE ONE OF THE OTHER STREETS THAT I DIDN'T MENTION BECAUSE WE FORGET THAT WOODLANDS BOULEVARD, WE SHOULDN'T FORGET THAT WOODLANDS BOULEVARD IS NOT JUST TO THE SOUTH IN THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITIES FOR DISTRIBUTION OF THE FUNDS, IT IS MY OPINION IT SHOULD AFFECT PRIMARILY GOING SEE THE BIG BOX OF DISTRICT TWO WHERE THAT'S THE WOODLANDS.
THAT BIG OLD SQUARE IS THE WOODLANDS.
THAT ROAD IS WOODLANDS BOULEVARD.
ROCK ISLAND. SO THESE COMMUNITIES THROUGH HERE.
IF WE HAVE TO WORK ON PARING DOWN THE LIST, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIST.
SO WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.
FOR DISCUSSION OF MONIES TO HELP THE.
AFFECTED. PROPERTIES WOULD BE A LIST OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THAT L AROUND THE BOX.
THE UPSIDE DOWN L, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE.
IF WE'RE SAYING I'M JUST THROWING OUT THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY NOT BE AFFECTED WOULD BE TAMARAC LAKES ONE AND TWO. RIGHT.
I KNOW THEY'RE NOT ON THE LIST. I'M JUST USING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON THE LIST.
THEY'RE NOT PART OF THAT. L I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS AFFECTED BY THIS NEW PROJECT.
IS THAT L MY OPINION AND I JUST THINK TO HELP START OFF THE CONVERSATION OF WHO TO ALLOCATE MONEY TO WOULD BE TO KNOW THOSE PROPERTIES.
SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS LIST WAS ASKED FOR IN GENERAL IS THIS LIST.
IF YOU WENT DOWN THIS LIST, WHICH ONES OF THESE ARE NOT IN THAT? UPSIDE DOWN. L OR SEVEN.
CALL IT A SEVEN. I KNOW GREEN HAVEN'S NOT SO THAT CAN BE SCRATCHED OFF RIGHT AWAY.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH ASKING FOR A LIST.
WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL FOR THE.
GROUP. LIKE I SAID, I WANTED THE MOST IMPACT IT CAN DO CITYWIDE.
BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, YES, SOME HOA WILL BE IMPACTED MORE THAN OTHERS.
ABSOLUTELY. BUT THE MOST, THE MORE WE CAN STRETCH THE MONEY THAT CITYWIDE, WE SEE A GOOD IMPACT TO THE STRESS WE'RE CAUSING OTHER PEOPLE. IF WE SEE THE CITY BETTER AS A WHOLE AFTER THIS, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH IT.
AND I SEE THERE WERE PREVIOUSLY WE HAD DIFFERENT ALLOCATIONS.
SO I DON'T MIND DIFFERENT ALLOCATIONS TO THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED THE MOST.
BUT THE MORE WE COULD I COULD SEE A CITYWIDE IMPROVEMENT.
THE BETTER I FEEL ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT.
KEEPING IN MIND ONE OF THE REASONS FOR DOLLARS COMING FROM THE DEVELOPERS, AND THIS IS WHERE I WAS GOING EARLIER, THAT WE NEVER FINISHED THE CONVERSATION, NEVER CAME BACK TO THE WORKSHOP LIKE IT WAS GOING TO.
THE REASON DEVELOPERS GIVE DOLLARS IS FOR THE IMPACT.
THEIR JUSTIFICATION IS FOR THE IMPACT CLOSEST TO THE PROJECT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING FOR HELPING THIS MORE AND MORE BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE CITY, BUT THE PURPOSE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE IMPACT DIRECTLY AROUND THE TARGET AREA OF THE.
I MEAN, DEVELOPERS GAVE MONEY.
THAT'S NOT EVEN ON WHERE THE ARTWORK IS.
SO I'M SO JUST THE DEVELOPER FOR OUR WORK.
THAT'S THAT'S A STATUTORY ITEM FOR IMPACT FEES.
THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING. RIGHT.
BUT IT'S STILL WENT TOWARDS THE WHOLE CITY BUT WENT MOSTLY INTO ONE SECTION OF THE CITY.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN EDEN WEST WAS DONE, THEY HAD AN ARTWORK REQUIREMENT.
AND THAT'S WHY HE GOT THE PINK FLAMINGO.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S THAT WAS JUST FOR EDEN WEST.
BUT I'M SAYING WE JUST CHANGED THE POCKET.
RIGHT. BUT THE POCKET OF MONEY GOES TOWARDS THE ARTWORK.
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THAT'S SO BEAUTIFUL ON THAT BILL.I KNOW I'M OFF TOPIC, BUT BEAUTIFUL.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WERE CONSTANTLY COMING SAYING, WELL, IT IMPACT US WITH TRAFFIC.
IT IMPACT US GETTING OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
IT IMPACT IT IMPACT THE EYESORE IMPACTS THE WOODLAND FROM SHAKER VILLAGE.
MISS MAXINE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT THIS MONEY ASIDE AND WHEN THE PROJECT IS FINISHED, TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE AFFECTED AREAS AND PUT THAT MONEY IN THERE? I KNOW IT'S LIKE, WAY OFF TOPIC, BUT.
SO TODAY, WE'RE NOT HERE TO RENEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT.
AND SO IT READS THAT THE DEVELOPER ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE AIRBNB IMPACTS OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING WOODLANDS COMMUNITY AND AGREES TO CONTRIBUTE 950, $925,000 DIRECTLY TO THE CITY FOR DISTRIBUTION TO VARIOUS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OUTSIDE OF THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY, WHICH MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
IT'S FOR YOU TO DIRECT US AS TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, HOW MUCH YOU'D LIKE THEM TO HAVE.
SO THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED ARE FROM 60 FOR WHERE YOUR MOUSE IS ALL THE WAY TO ROCK ISLAND, ALL THE WAY TO THE TURNPIKE, AND POSSIBLY FURTHER EAST AS WE TRUCKS MAY BE COMING FROM I-95 IF AT THAT.
AND THAT'S ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THEM GOING NORTH ON ROCK ISLAND.
THERE'S REALLY NOTHING FOR THEM TO BE GOING THAT WAY.
THOSE ARE MAIN ROADS. OKAY, I'M JUST SAYING, I UNDERSTAND YOU.
YOU GET THE SAWGRASS GOING WEST ON COMMERCIAL.
BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY AN IMPACT.
IT'S JUST GOING TO HAVE A FEW TRUCKS RUNNING BACK AND FORTH.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THE MAIN FOCUS IS THE WOODLANDS AREA, THE COMMUNITY.
JUST A BIT. EVERYTHING ELSE IS TO THE RIGHT.
IS TO EAST OF ROCK ISLAND, GOING SOUTH ON ROCK ISLAND AND NEAR THE TURNPIKE.
AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO KEEP SAYING IT.
BUT ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE FUNDS TOO BECAUSE.
WELL, I THINK THE ACCOUNTABILITY IS A GIVEN.
WE WON'T BE PROCESSING AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
THERE'S DEFINITELY CONSENSUS ON ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT LEVEL NEXT.
ABOUT THE PROPERTIES AND I COULD BE MISTAKEN, BUT I THINK I'M NOT.
SORRY. YOU WANTED TO GO AHEAD.
SO INTO DOCTOR DANIEL'S POINT, YOU SAID I WAS VERY CANDID.
I WAS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
I'M STILL NOT IN SUPPORT OF IT.
THE MONEY WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE VOTE.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE COMMISSIONER BOLTON VOTED AGAINST THE PROJECT AS WELL.
BUT EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE IN DISTRICT ONE.
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LIST, IT'S.
IT'S ALL GOING TO DISTRICT ONE, BASICALLY.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE FOR YOUR DISTRICT, WHICH IS DISTRICT FOUR.
SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE AS SPREAD AS MUCH ACROSS THE DISTRICT.
YEAH. WELL, HE JUST SAID I SAID, I KNOW I'M TRYING TO.
AND MY VOTE WAS ABOUT MAKING THE CITY BETTER.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I DIDN'T EVEN ASK TO PUT NOTHING ON IT.
WELL, I AM I AM NOT VERY NEUTRAL.
LET'S TRY TO. NONE OF THIS IS EASY.
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AND. DEALING WITH MONEY.ALWAYS HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME PEOPLE TO BE UPSET WITH THE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE BY US, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO NOT WORRY ABOUT WHAT DECISIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MAD AT US FOR.
AND WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT OUR PURPOSE IS FOR THE MONEY.
AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO $925,000.
IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER THAT WILL BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF COMMUNITIES.
IT WAS MONEY THEY NEVER HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE.
HOPEFULLY THEY WILL UNDERSTAND.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S NOT LET'S PLEASE REMOVE ANYTHING.
THE DECISION WAS MADE, THE PROPERTY, THIS PROJECT'S GOING FORWARD.
LET'S CLEAN UP WHAT HAS HAPPENED THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, KNOWING THAT IN THE FUTURE WE WON'T HAVE THIS KIND OF PROBLEM AGAIN BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE CERTAIN OTHER RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE.
SO LET'S JUST CLEAN THIS PART UP AND GO FORWARD.
BACK TO YOU. HOW MANY? YOU SAID $200 IS GOING TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS IN THE WOODLANDS FOR, FOR FOR THEIR FOR THE IT'S APPROXIMATELY 175,000.
THIS IS A LANDSCAPE MASTER PLAN.
I THINK WE PUT THAT DONATION IN A DIFFERENT PLACE.
IT WAS IT WAS A SEPARATE LOCATION.
IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.
SO IT'S $178,400, WHICH EQUATES TO $200 PER EXISTING HOME WITHIN THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY.
IT GOES INTO A COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT FUND, AND THAT IS TO BE UTILIZED FOR WE'RE LIKE RESTORING HOMES AFTER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER UNDER THE PARAGRAPH 21.
THE DEVELOPER ALSO WILL BE CONTRIBUTING 250,000.
SO IS THERE A WAY WE CAN PERHAPS DIRECT STAFF TO SEE HOW YOU KNOW THE BEST USE AND BIGGEST IMPACT OF THIS MONEY ON THE CITY? IS THAT AN OPTION? I BELIEVE IF I BELIEVE, THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS IF THERE'S CONSENSUS FROM THIS DAIS, THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES.
TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE VARIOUS HOMES OR.
TO WHAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST IMPACT TO THE CITY.
IT WOULD STILL BE A DISTRIBUTION.
WE CANNOT NEGOTIATE RENEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO AS THE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN, IT IS $925,000 FOR DISTRIBUTION TO VARIOUS HOAS SO THAT ARE MAY BE IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.
I'M GOING TO BEG TO DIFFER A BIT HERE.
BECAUSE AND NOT JUST PUTTING OUT A TOPIC AND A CONVERSATION NOT TO GO INTO THE SUBJECT CONVERSATION.
I KNOW THAT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE $750,000 FROM WHAT IS A 21 A, I APPROACHED.
THE APPLICANT, DEVELOPER, WHATEVER, AND SAID IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO GIVE THIS MONEY DIRECTLY TO SHAKER VILLAGE FOR ASSISTANCE INSTEAD OF IT BEING DESIGNATED FOR AN EAST SIDE COMMUNITY CENTER.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WOULD BE THE RESULT? HE SAID THEY WOULD TALK TO HIS CLIENT.
THE BOTTOM LINE BELIEF IS AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT BEING ASKED FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM THEM, THEN IF THE CITY COMMISSION FEELS THAT THERE IS A BETTER WAY FOR THE MONEY TO BE ALLOCATED AND SPENT THROUGH THE CITY.
THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM TO ASK THEM FOR IT.
SO I SAY THE SAME THING ON 21 C AS IT IS FOR 21 A, 21 A WAS, I BELIEVE, THE 750 TO THE SHAKER VILLAGE CLUBHOUSE. WHATEVER.
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STAFF THAT THERE IS A BETTER WAY TO ALLOCATE THE $925,000.WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE IN TRYING THAT CONVERSATION.
AGAIN, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE NUMBERS.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY MORE.
OPINION ON THAT. SO YOU WANT US? SO I COUNTED SIX IN MY EIGHT.
FROM WHAT I SAW, SIX DIRECTLY IMPACTED COMMUNITIES WITH SEVEN BEING THE WOODLANDS.
BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER, BUT IT COULD BE.
WHY DON'T YOU READ THEM OFF? ONE IS THE WOODLAND ESTATES.
MAINLAND SECTION SEVEN AND SIX.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY SEVEN, IN MY OPINION, AND CENTRAL PARK.
AND THEN THE MAYBES WOULD BE TAMARAC LAKES, SECTION FIVE.
TAMARAC LAKES SOUTH SECTION 62 AND 64.
OH, YOU'RE NOT GOING. I WAS WONDERING WHAT.
YEAH, YEAH, I WAS I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT CHELSEA PLACE.
CHELSEA PLACE THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY.
IT'S ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD BETWEEN WOODLANDS AND.
AND THEN ACTUALLY THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN BETWEEN THAT ARE NOT AN ASSOCIATION BASED.
ISN'T THERE A SEGMENT? THERE'S A SEGMENT. IS IT HELPFUL? WE CAN REAL TIME JAMES CAN JOT DOWN IF IT'S HELPFUL TO ALL WHAT THE COMMISSIONER JUST SAID.
WE CAN JOT THAT DOWN SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S WRITTEN IN JAMES.
YEAH. IS THIS LIST MISSING ANY ASSOCIATION? THAT IS IN CLOSE.
THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR MORE DETAILS OF THE COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING.
THAT I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
YES. THAT IF WE ARE NOT YET READY TO FINISH THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE STILL NEED MORE INFORMATION, THEN SHOULD THIS ITEM BE TABLED TO ANOTHER WORKSHOP WHEN WE HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS, ALL THE LOCATIONS WRITTEN DOWN? AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS THIS IN A MORE COHERENT.
ASKING CITY STAFF TO LOOK INTO A BROADER BASED.
POSSIBILITY. SO ONE IS THE POSSIBILITY TO DISTRIBUTE, AS IS SAYS, THROUGH COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS, AND THE OTHER IS MORE BROAD BASED FOR THE CITY TO DETERMINE AROUND THIS AREA WHERE THE MONEY COULD GO.
SO WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS CONVERSATION.
WITH A LITTLE MORE KNOWLEDGE AND A LITTLE MORE ABILITY TO MAYBE HAVE SOME ANSWERS.
IS THERE A CONSENSUS FOR THIS? I NEED A VERBAL YES.
LET'S FINISH THIS ONE AND THEN WE'LL ADD.
I'LL ADD EVEN THOUGH IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS ONE.
YEAH. WELL WE'LL ADD THAT WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE TO ANOTHER TIME.
BUT YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION. WE'LL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.
BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING OKAY.
I GUESS COMMISSIONER BOLTON DOESN'T.
OKAY. NOW SO WE'RE TABLING THIS CONVERSATION.
GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER. IN ADDITION TO THAT, CAN THE CITY MEET WITH THE HOA'S THAT YOU DEEM ADDITION TO THESE? AND SEE IF THERE'S A BROAD THING YOU CAN DO.
THAT. LIKE A BROAD PROJECT THAT THE MONEY CAN USE THAT IMPACTS ALL.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WAS ALREADY.
WHAT WOULD BE WHERE THE MONEY.
I THINK COMMISSIONER DANIEL IS ASKING TO ASK ALL THE ASSOCIATIONS FOR THEIR INPUT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, BUT THAT'S FEASIBLE.
SO MAY I ASK FOR SOME CLARITY? YES, PLEASE. SO YOU'RE ASKING US TO COME BACK AND TO IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE BASED ON STAFF'S OPINION IMPACTED THE MOST BY THIS DEVELOPMENT? THAT'S WE WOULD LIKE YOUR OPINION IMPACTED MOST AND HAVE THOSE LISTED AND THEN SO WE WANT.
I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE SEVEN BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, IT'S THE NUMBER SEVEN THAT SURROUNDS THOSE AREAS RIGHT? IN THE SEVEN.
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THAT'S DEFINITE AROUND.AND THEN IN GENERAL, IS THERE A CERTAIN CITY PROPERTY WITHIN THIS AREA? THAT ADDITIONAL MONIES COULD GO INTO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO COMMUNITY BASED.
ASSOCIATION BASED. IT JUST CHANGED.
BUT THEN. NO, NO, IT'S WHAT THE CITY WOULD BELIEVE.
YOU JUST SAID WITHIN THAT AREA.
I SAID, FIRST OF ALL, I AGREED WITH YOU YOUR FIRST TIME.
YOU SAID THE BROADEST IMPACT, RIGHT? OKAY. ALL IN BROAD, BECAUSE WE ENCOMPASS A LOT MORE.
AND THEN SOMETHING NOT JUST CITY, LAND, CITY.
WELL. BUT IF THE HOSE COULD AGREE, IT COULD IMPACT THEIR.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK INTO THIS.
LOOK INTO IT. CAUSE I DON'T THINK WE CAN TOUCH THEIR COMMON AREAS.
CAN WE? JUST BRING YOU BACK WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE IMPACTED, THOSE WE CAN ALSO BRING BACK A MAP, AND WE CAN SHOW THOSE HOA IN PROXIMITY TO THE WOODLANDS AND THE LIST OF THOSE HOAS.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS RELATIVE TO SOME TYPE OF PURPOSE FOR THESE FUNDS THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED ONCE YOU'VE DECIDED WHAT WHO WILL GET THESE FUNDS, BUT YOU ALSO WANT A PURPOSE, YOU WANT THEM TO UTILIZE IT FOR A REASON, WHICH YOU CAN ESTABLISH SEPARATE BY POLICY OUTSIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. BUT WE CAN IDENTIFY THE HOA FOR YOU.
SO YOU WON'T LIMIT IT TO SEVEN.
YOU WILL MAKE IT. NO, NO, I WAS KIDDING ABOUT SEVEN.
SORRY. IT LOOKS LIKE A SEVEN TO ME ON THE MAP.
THAT WHOLE AREA THAT SURROUNDS THE WOODLANDS.
I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE HOMES IN THE WOODLANDS AS WELL.
WE CAN ADD THAT. YEAH, YEAH, ADD MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE INCLUDED AS WELL.
IT'S EIGHT DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
AGREED. SHE'S LOOKING AT THE AFFECTED AREA, THE AFFECTED AREA.
BUT SHE NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT.
YEAH. IT'S THE IF IT'S INCLUDED, INCLUDE THE OTHER PART OF MONEY.
IF WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE INCLUDED, ALL THE MONEY SHOULD BE TOGETHER.
THAT PART'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS.
BUT THEN I'M GOING TO SAY I'M GOING TO TAKE IT THIS WAY.
HERE'S I'M PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. THEN WHY DON'T WE TAKE THE TWO THE $750,000 FROM SHAKER VILLAGE? NO, NO NO, NO.
RIGHT. SO WHY WOULD WE NOT BE TAKING 21 A, WHICH IS $750,000, GIVEN TO THE SABLE, THE SHAKER VILLAGE CLUBHOUSE? THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT, AND THAT'S A GOOD ONE, I.
THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING THE VERBIAGE ON THIS.
NO, WE'RE NOT YET CHANGING THE VERBIAGE.
AND THEN IF THERE'S CONSENSUS, WHICH WILL BE FOR WHAT IT WILL BE, WE WILL GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPER AND SAY, WE ARE LOOKING TO AMEND 21 C TO READ AS FOLLOWS AND CHANGE IT TO INCLUDE YOU CAN'T WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THAT.
WE NEED THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT TO CHANGE.
RIGHT. SO I'M JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES.
WE WILL VERIFY WHEN WE LEAVE THIS MEETING.
WE BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE THIS IS HOW THE DEVELOPER SENT IT TO US AND WE FINALIZED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO VERIFY THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION VERIFIED WHEN WE GET BACK.
WE'LL HAVE A LIST OF THE HOA STAFF WILL SUGGEST THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST IMPACTED.
AND AT I JUST WANT TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD, IF IF THE LANGUAGE AS AS MISS CALLOWAY INDICATED, IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS VOTED ON, IT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANOTHER VOTE.
SO AN AMENDMENT, CORRECT, BUT ONLY IT WOULD BE SUBJECT SPECIFIC TO ONE ITEM.
IT'S NOT TO THE WHOLE ENTIRE AGREEMENT.
IT WOULD BE SUBJECT SPECIFIC TO AN AMENDMENT RIGHT FOR SOME.
BECAUSE WHAT WAS CAPTURED, IT WOULDN'T BE A DISCUSSION AT ALL.
ALRIGHTY THEN. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 128.
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BE CAREFUL. PLEASE DON'T LOOK UP.PLEASE BE CAREFUL OR JUST STAY INSIDE.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE SAFE. THANK YOU.
OH. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.