Mar 11, 2024 Workshop

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GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO MARCH 11TH.

[Call to Order]

AND WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN OUR WORKSHOP.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR.

MAYOR GOMEZ. GOOD MORNING.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

VICE MAYOR WRIGHT. GOOD MORNING.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. COMMISSIONER DANIEL.

THANK YOU. WELL, AS COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS NOT PRESENT, WE WILL ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

ALL RIGHTY.

WE HAVE FIRST UP DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION BOARD BUSINESS INITIATIVE INITIATIVE PRESENTATION BEING PRESENTED BY RUDOLPH GALINDO, OUR

[1.a Diversity, Equity, Inclusion Board - Business Initiative Presentation Presented by Rudolph Galindo, Parks & Recreation Director]

BUT I ALSO KNOW WE HAVE OTHERS JOINING US.

I'LL LET YOU DO YOUR INTRODUCTIONS.

GOOD MORNING.

FOR THE RECORD, RUDOLPH GALINDO, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

TODAY, WE HAVE A PROPOSED BUSINESS PLEDGE INITIATIVE THAT COMES FROM OUR DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION BOARD.

SO I'M HAPPY TO HAVE ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION AS WELL AS IN THE AUDIENCE.

AND WE HAVE JUDY HUNTER, WHO'S FROM THE DEI BOARD, AND SAM MONROE, WHO IS WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND AS WELL AS THE LIAISON FOR THE BOARD.

AND WE HAVE MR. WEBSTER IN THE BACK AS PART OF THE BOARD AS WELL.

AND BEFORE I PASS THIS OVER, I JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE THE CITY STRATEGIC GOALS.

GOAL ONE AND GOAL THREE AS TIED INTO THIS PRESENTATION.

GOAL ONE TAMARAC IS HOME.

WELL MAINTAINED, INCLUSIVE AND EQUITABLE.

ADA COMPLIANT AND GREAT EDUCATION AND GOAL NUMBER THREE TAMARAC IS ECONOMICALLY RESILIENT, BUSINESS FRIENDLY, AND A PLACE TO THRIVE.

SO I'M GOING TO PASS OVER TO SAM AND ROWE, WHO'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF THE BOARD, AND THEN WE WILL HAND IT OVER TO JUDY HUNTER TO PRESENT THE INITIATIVE THAT THE BOARD HAS BEEN WORKING ON.

GOOD MORNING AGAIN, SAM MONROE.

I'M SITE SUPERVISOR WITH PARKS AND RECS FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOARD, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THE INITIATIVE WITH THE BOARD ACTUALLY WAS INITIATED APPROVED ON JANUARY 27TH, 2021.

AND PRETTY MUCH WE MEET ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO DISCUSS DIFFERENT INITIATIVES AROUND DEI.

AND THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD BEING PUT IN PLACE.

SO THE VISION, AGAIN, IT STATES THE VISION OF THE DEI BOARD IS TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT EMBRACES OUR DIFFERENCES AND CELEBRATES OUR SIMILARITIES.

INCLUSION IS HOW WE WILL UNLEASH THE POWER OF DIVERSITY AND EQUITY TO ATTRACT AND WELCOME PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

THE BOARD ACTUALLY ALSO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN A COUPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC MAJOR EVENTS.

JUST TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT WHAT, WHO AND WHAT THE BOARD IS AND THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE OR THE INITIATIVE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT IN PLACE.

HERE ARE THE RESPONSIBILITIES ON THE BOARD.

DUTIES ARE TO ADVISE ON INITIATIVES THAT WILL PROMOTE APPRECIATION, ACCEPTANCE AND RESPECT FOR CULTURE AND ABILITY DIFFERENCES.

CONTRIBUTE TO CITY SERVICES AND PROGRAMS BEING EQUITABLE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL, AND THEN PRETTY MUCH UP TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

THE BOARD WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION RECOMMEND ON WAYS TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CITY TO INCREASE UNDERSTANDING OF DIVERSE GROUPS THAT MAKE UP THE CITY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS TO THE GROUP HAVE ALSO BROUGHT IN PETER FROM THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO SEE HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS OF THE INITIATIVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT. CURRENTLY OUR BOARD MEMBERS.

MIKE IS PRETTY MUCH APPOINTED BY MAYOR GOMEZ JUDY HUNTER, WHO'S THE VICE CHAIR.

SHE'S APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON STUART WEBSTER, VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT. JOSE HE'S APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER ELVIN AND SHEILA, WHO IS APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER DOCTOR DANIELS.

AT THIS TIME. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MISS JUDY HUNTER.

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IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WORKING ON THE DEI BOARD.

THE MEMBERSHIP IS WONDERFUL.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST BRING A DIVERSITY IN PLACE TO TAMARAC.

THE BOARD CREATED AND IS PROPOSING A BUSINESS PLEDGE INITIATIVE CALLED ONE TAMARAC WHERE EVERYBODY BELONGS.

TAMARAC IS COMMITTED TO FOSTERING A CULTURE WHERE EVERYBODY BELONGS REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, GENDER IDENTITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, NATIONAL ORIGIN, DISABILITY OR AGE.

WE PLEDGE TO, AS A BOARD, PROMOTE A CULTURE THAT IS INCLUSIVE AND RESPECTFUL.

CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WELCOMES ALL VISITORS.

OFFER AN ATMOSPHERE THAT IS FAIR AND EQUAL.

ENSURE THAT OUR BUSINESS IS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT BUSINESSES WHO DECIDE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS INITIATIVE WILL FILL OUT THE APPLICATION PLEDGE FORM, WHICH CAN BE ACCESSED THROUGH THE TAMARAC WEBSITE UNDER BOARDS.

EVERY BUSINESS WHO DECIDES TO PARTICIPATE WILL GET A WINDOW CLING.

AND THIS IS A DRAFT UPON YOUR APPROVAL OF IT.

THE WINDOW FLING WILL SAY THIS BUSINESS IS A SUPPORTER OF TAMARAC DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION DEI INITIATIVE, PROMOTING A CULTURE THAT IS INCLUSIVE AND RESPECTFUL, CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WELCOMES ALL VISITORS, OFFERING AN ATMOSPHERE THAT IS FAIR AND EQUAL, AND ENSURING THAT OUR BUSINESS IS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

TAMARAC OUR CITY WHERE EVERYBODY IS WELCOME AND BELONGS.

AND WE HAVE AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THEY CAN EMAIL MORE INFORMATION OR CALL THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY OR RUDY.

THE BENEFITS. PARKS AND RECREATION.

RIGHT. THE BENEFITS OF BUSINESSES PARTICIPATING CAN BE THEY WILL BE RECOGNIZED AT CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW FROM THEIR KLING THAT THEY ARE PARTICIPANT AND THEY WILL HAVE THAT SIGN THAT SAYS WELCOME TO ALL.

THE WINDOW CLEAN CAN BE DISPLAYED BY THE BUSINESSES.

WE ARE HOPING TO PARTNER WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO HELP PROMOTE THE INITIATIVE, MARKETING SOCIAL MEDIA, THE MAMMOGRAM, AND OF COURSE, WORD OF MOUTH.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST THING OF ALL.

COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE MET WITH THE DIRECTOR.

NO. YEAH.

I WILL MEET WITH. YEAH. OKAY.

THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

THE DIE IS LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ENDEAVOR, AND WE'D LIKE SOME DIRECTION AND SUGGESTIONS.

I THANK YOU.

AND DOES EVERYONE HAVE A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION? I HAVE SOME COPIES I CAN PROVIDE TO YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY WE FORGIVE US FOR NOT LOOKING AT YOU ALL THE TIME WHILE YOU WERE SPEAKING, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE.

SO WE WERE LOOKING AT YOUR PRESENTATION.

OKAY. THAT'S OKAY.

SO WHILE WE.

OR SCANNING THIS. FOR EVERYBODY TO LET ME KNOW IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK.

THEY TURN OVER A LITTLE CARD SO I HAVE NO CARDS.

TURN OVER, SO I'LL GO.

I APPRECIATE THIS.

HONESTLY WAS NOT SURE WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED, RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WILL BE MARKETING IT OUT FROM A PLACE WHERE IT ISN'T.

A TEAM EFFORT IF THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD FROM A BUSINESS THAT I WENT TO.

THEY COME FROM A CULTURE WHERE IF WE GO TO THEM IN THEIR BUSINESS, THEY FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THEY ASK US TO DO.

AND I'M NOT SAYING ON THIS I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, RIGHT? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS ME JUST WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THAT INSIGHT TO KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE CAN COMMUNICATE, WE CAN TALK.

BUT SOMETIMES IF WE GO TO THAT DOOR TO DOOR, IT DOESN'T FEEL VOLUNTARY.

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AND I LIKE YOUR FLIER, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

BUT I ALSO REALLY LIKE THE PAGE SIX.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S DESIGN OR NOT.

BUT IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS, AS EVERYONE IS WELCOME HERE.

IT HAD THE LETTERS WRITTEN OUT IN EVERYONE AND THE LITTLE.

OKAY. I ALSO LIKE THE TREE.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, I LIKE THE TREE TOO, BUT I LIKE THE COLORFULNESS OF THIS.

SO JUST COMMENTARY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OUR DESIGN, BUT IF SOMEBODY DESIGNED IT, THEY DID IT.

IN MY OPINION, THAT TOO IS A REALLY GOOD.

JUST SHARING YOU WANTED THOUGHTS.

I'M GIVING YOU THOUGHTS JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE.

THE DESIGN, AS JUDY MENTIONED, IS A DRAFT DESIGN.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S BEEN FINAL.

SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION.

AND THE BOARD WILL TAKE BACK FEEDBACK AND WILL WORK CLOSELY TO TO GET TO A FINAL DRAFT.

I APPRECIATE I ALSO DO LIKE ALL THE HANDS.

I MEAN, WE WOUND UP USING SOMETHING SIMILAR AS A DESIGN FOR OUR 60TH BIRTHDAY, SO.

IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE HANDS.

SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW MAY WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THE TREE IS GREAT WHERE IT SAYS WELCOME IN MANY LANGUAGES.

AND WE ARE A FOUNDATION.

TREES ARE OUR FOUNDATION.

WE PROVIDE TREES, PROVIDE SHELTER AND SHADE AND COMFORT.

SO I LIKE ALL THE IMAGERY.

SO THOSE ARE.

MY COMMENTARY. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS COMMISSIONER.

DANIEL WILL BE NEXT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST ON THAT NOTE WITH MAYOR'S COMMENTS I WOULD PREFER THE TREE OR JUST GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION. DOES IT TAKE AWAY FROM THE CITY FOR YOUR LIFE? LOGO. IF WE HAVE ANOTHER WORDING WHERE IT SAYS EVERYONE IS WELCOME HERE.

VERSUS A TREE WHERE IT JUST SAYS WELCOME.

ARE YOU ON THE WHERE THE CLING OR SO CAN YOU TAKE US TO THE LIKE IF WE SLAP SOMETHING ON SOMEONE'S WINDOW? YEAH. YEAH.

IT'LL BE THAT. YES.

OKAY, OKAY. GOT IT. THIS IS THE WINDOW CLEAN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY THE BOARD.

OKAY. AND WHO WOULD BE THE ONE GOING AROUND PUTTING THESE STICKERS? ON THE WINDOWS. SO WHAT HAPPENED IS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN INDIVIDUAL APPLIES THROUGH THE WEBSITE, PRETTY MUCH THE STAFF PRETTY MUCH WOULD BE THE ONES.

WELL, LET ME BACK UP. ONCE AN INDIVIDUAL APPLIES THAT PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION AGAIN.

APPROVED. APPROVED BY YOU ALL WILL BE PRESENTED AT OUR COMMISSION MEETING.

THEY WOULD THEN RECEIVE THE CLEAN TO GO BACK TO THEIR OFFICES TO HANG IT.

GOT IT. ARE WE PUTTING TOO MUCH ON WINDOWS? I KNOW OUR PREVIOUS VICE MAYOR WENT AROUND EVERY DISTRICT PUTTING VICE MAYOR STICKERS.

BUT THOSE ARE STILL ON EVERY DISTRICT.

EVEN THOUGH THE PREVIOUS VICE MAYOR IS NOT THE VICE MAYOR.

NOW, ARE THOSE COMING OFF? AND THEN THIS IS BEING REPLACED OR WE'RE JUST PUTTING MORE STICKERS ON WINDOWS.

YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE BUSINESS.

BUT THE WINDOW CLEANING AND THE LAST BOARD MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT IF A WINDOW CLEANING DIDN'T WORK FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS, THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY FOR THEM TO PROMOTE TO THEIR CUSTOMERS AND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE A SUPPORTER.

THE WINDOW CLEANING CONCEPT WAS JUST AN EASIER ONE THAT WOULD FIT MOST BUSINESSES, BUT IT CERTAINLY CAN BE MODIFIED DEPENDING ON THE BUSINESS.

IF THEY ALREADY HAVE A WINDOW THAT'S FULL OF THINGS WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS BEST.

YEAH. CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY.

DO WE HAVE A RESTRICTION ON HOW MANY CLAIMS CAN GO ON A WINDOW BY THE DOOR? I'M NOT AWARE OF A YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC NUMBER OF CLAIMS, BUT BUT I KNOW WE HAVE A RESTRICTION AS TO HOW MUCH OF THE WINDOW CAN BE COVERED BY SUCH ITEMS. GOT IT. WAS IT 20%? 30% 20 OR 30? 30%? OKAY.

SO IT'S IT'S RELATIVELY SMALL IF THEY HAVE LIKE 4 OR 5 OF THEM.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, RIGHT.

OKAY. COOL.

COMMISSIONER, DANNY. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE HEART WITH THE HANDS.

I THINK IT FLOWS WELL WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

IT'S MORE MATURE, SO IT REPRESENTS ADULTS.

I'M AN ELEMENTARY TEACHER AT HEART, SO SEEING THE PRETTY, COLORFUL ONE JUST REMIND ME MY KIDS ARE NOT A BUSINESS.

BUT THIS REPRESENT.

WELL, THE WELCOME IS EVERYWHERE.

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I THINK SOMEONE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TREE, BUT THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.

GOOD CHOICE. EXCELLENT WORK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

I THINK IT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA.

D E I, AS WE CAN, AS WE KNOW ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IS BEING UNDER ATTACK.

MY ALMA MATER, UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, JUST GOT RID OF THE OFFICE.

YOU KNOW. I MENTIONED A FEW WEEKS AGO DURING THE THE VOTE FOR THE PATRIOTS HOLIDAY.

THAT SO GOES AMERICA.

I MEAN, SO GOES TAMARAC, SO GOES AMERICA.

AND I THINK THIS FIT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN TERMS OF DIVERSITY.

WE'RE SEEING HATE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY TOWARDS JEWS, TOWARDS LGBT INDIVIDUALS, TOWARDS BLACKS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A DIFFERENT SENTIMENT THAN FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE WHOLE BLACK LIVES MOVEMENT IN 2020, AFTER THE ISSUE THAT HAPPENED IN MINNESOTA WITH GEORGE FLOYD.

SO I THINK THIS IS A BRILLIANT IDEA FOR A COMMUNITY TO EMBRACE THE DIVERSITY OF A COMMUNITY, BECAUSE TAMARAC IS VERY, VERY DIVERSE.

AND I THINK HAVING THIS IN DEMONSTRATING DIVERSITY SHOWS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU WELCOME, DIVERSITY THAT WE ARE PART OF, DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF THE NUANCES OF THE DESIGN, I THINK THE HAN REPRESENTS THAT.

I THINK EVERYONE IS WELCOME WITH THE DESIGN.

IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE INCLUSIVE TO EVERYONE.

MY ONLY ISSUE WOULD BE IN LOOKING AT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS, DIFFERENT AN OPEN MIND IN TERMS OF BUSINESSES WHO MIGHT NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND PEOPLE WHO MIGHT JUDGE THEM AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, I SAW THIS BUSINESS AS A DIVERSITY SIGN AND THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE IT.

HOW HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE BUSINESSES? WELL, I GUESS OH, NO.

GO AHEAD. DIVERSITY IS A FACT.

INCLUSION IS A CHOICE.

EVERYBODY WHO OWNS A BUSINESS, THEY MAKE THAT CHOICE WHETHER THEY WANT TO INCLUDE OR BE INCLUSIVE OF DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION OR NOT.

WELL, YOU KNOW WE CAN OFFER IT.

OKAY, SO WE'LL OFFER IT.

AND IF SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUDGE THEM IN ANY WAY AT ALL.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO. NO. OKAY, OKAY.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, BUT I THINK IT'S A BRILLIANT IDEA.

I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE DOING IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO OTHER PLACES THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, TAMARAC WELCOMES DIVERSITY.

WE EMBRACE DIVERSITY.

AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

THANK YOU. AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ADD TO THAT ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE LAST BOARD MEETING THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS ABOUT THE PROMOTION OF THIS INITIATIVE AND FOR BUSINESSES TO COME FORWARD WHO ARE INTERESTED.

SO THEY'RE NOT FEELING THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO OR NEED TO, AND GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND MAKING THEM FEEL THAT PRESSURE.

BUT CERTAINLY IT CAN BE PROMOTED IN A WAY THAT THEY CAN COME FORWARD, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO US AND, AND THE BOARD TO, TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. TO VICE MAYOR'S POINT.

YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T. I SAW IT, BUT IT'S SMALL.

FOR MORE INFORMATION.

WHAT ABOUT IF WE PUT SOMETHING TO BECOME A SUPPORTER? GO HERE.

THIS WAY THEY DON'T FEEL.

OH, WAIT A MINUTE. HOW? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I READ IT, BUT I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS.

HOW DO I JOIN? SO THEY KNOW THEY CAN BE PART OF IT? YEAH. OKAY. OH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

SO MAYBE THAT ANSWERS THAT.

BECOME A SUPPORTER. I APPRECIATE IT, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF THE VICE MAYOR, BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T.

BECOME A SUPPORTER DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T SUPPORT.

IT'S NOT IN THE ABSENCE.

THE ALTERNATIVE IS THE NEGATIVE BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT.

IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THEM, THEY ARE VERY WELL INCLUSIVE AND EMBRACING EVERYONE.

THEY JUST MAY HAVE THEIR OWN CORPORATE POLICIES.

THEY MAY HAVE THEIR OWN THINGS.

THEY JUST MAY NOT PUT IT OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT IT IS.

NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY DO.

I MEAN, THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER.

WHEN THE CHAMBER HAD THEIR LITTLE SUPPORT.

BUSINESSES. TIME FOR THE.

FORGETTING THE ACTUAL TERMINOLOGY, BUT FOR ITS CUSTOMER, IT'S BUSINESSES WEEK OR SOMETHING.

WHEN THE CHAMBER PUT OUT THEIR LITTLE STUFF AS WELL, EVEN WHEN THE CITY HAS THEIR CLINGS, YOU DON'T SEE OURS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T LOVE TO BE HERE.

THEY DON'T LOVE TO BE PART OF THE CHAMBER.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE AGAINST ANYTHING.

THEY JUST MAY NOT PUT IT UP.

SO AS LONG AS EVERYBODY IS KNOWLEDGEABLE AND COMFORTABLE AND REALIZE IT'S A CHOICE, EVERYTHING'S A CHOICE DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A NEGATIVE CHOICE IF THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE.

SO IT APPEARS YOU HAVE CONSENSUS TO GO FORWARD.

I DID HAVE ONE LITTLE QUESTION MARK REGARDING PRESENTATIONS AT CITY HALL FOR THE COMMISSION MEETING.

I THINK IF WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT, IF THERE'S THAT MANY THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT MIGHT BE A BETTER PHOTO OP AT THE BUSINESS.

SO I SAY SOME OF THIS TO NOT MAKE THAT AS IT HAS TO BE.

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I'M JUST SAYING TAKE THAT BACK IN THOUGHT TO MAYBE YOUR MARKETING PURPOSES.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING BEST TO DO AT THE BUSINESS.

SHOW OFF THE BUSINESS.

JUST A JUST COMMENTARY AGAIN, JUST COMMENTARY.

BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION TO GO FORTH.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. EVERYONE ON THE BOARD.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. IT IS NOW TIME FOR ONE-B GOLF.

AND GUESS WHAT? OUR GLADES GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENT OPTION DISCUSSION IS BEING PRESENTED BY RUDOLF GALINDO, OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR.

AND WHO ARE YOU BRINGING UP WITH YOU? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I AM WAITING FOR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE GOLF COURSE WHO HAD A DELAYED FLIGHT AND, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, HAPPY TO SWITCH TO THE NEXT ITEM AND THEN HE SHOULD BE HERE IN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES. NO WORRIES.

AND IF WE ACTUALLY GET THROUGH ONE SEE, WITHIN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES WE'LL GO TO ONE D AND THEN MOVE YOU AROUND.

SO OKAY. NEXT UP TO THE PLATE IS ONE C CITY OF TAMARAC LICENSE PLATE READERS.

[1.c City of Tamarac License Plate Readers (LPR) Program Discussion Presented by Christopher Palamara BSO, Jemeriah Cooper BSO, and James Twigger, Chief Information Officer]

MARIAH COOPER, BSO AND JAMES TWIGGER CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER.

SO WE'VE GOT OUR CAPTAIN, OUR EXECUTIVE LIEUTENANT, AND OUR CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER.

WELCOME, GENTLEMEN.

MORNING. MAYOR. VICE.

MAYOR. THERE WE GO.

GOOD MORNING. MAYOR. VICE MAYOR.

COMMISSION. WE ARE HERE TO SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL FOR AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT AS WE ALIGN OUR FOCUS WITH THE CITY'S FOCUS TO CONTINUE TO MAKE TAMARAC A SAFE.

PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE.

THIS ALIGNS WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

GOAL NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS TAMARAC IS SAFE AND PEOPLE KNOW IT.

SO AS YOU SEE AND HEAR THE PRESENTATION PRESENTED BY LIEUTENANT PALAMARA YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CITY. GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR.

I'M SORRY. GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR.

MR. VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO PRESENT HERE TO YOU TODAY LIEUTENANT CHRIS PALAMARA.

BASICALLY TO START OUT WITH, JUST TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE.

YES, THEY ARE CAMERAS, BUT THE CAMERAS THAT ARE FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY TO.

WITH VIA THE SOFTWARE TO IDENTIFY LICENSE PLATES, READ THESE SYMBOLS AND PROCESS THEM TO DETERMINE IF THEY HAVE BEEN ENTERED INTO THE NATIONAL CRIME INFORMATION CENTER DATABASE AS EITHER MISSING PERSONS, STOLEN VEHICLES, WANTED PERSONS, OR OTHER ENTRIES INTO THAT SYSTEM.

IF THE TAG MATCHES, AN ALERT IS TRIGGERED AND USERS OF THIS DATABASE ARE OF THE SYSTEM ARE NOTIFIED IN REAL TIME AT THE LOCATION WHERE THE VEHICLE WAS READ BY THE READER. ADDITIONALLY, THE SECONDARILY DETECTIVES CAN SEARCH SPECIFIC TAGS TO SEE WHERE A VEHICLE WAS IN PROXIMITY TO A CRIME THAT HAS OCCURRED. OR AS WELL, AGAIN, TO SEARCH TO SEE WHERE MISSING PERSONS MAY HAVE PASSED THROUGH.

LICENSE PLATE READERS ASSIST LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE DETECTION, IDENTIFICATION, AND RECOVERY OF STOLEN VEHICLES AND WANTED PERSONS LOCATE MISSING AND OR ENDANGERED CHILDREN AND ADULTS AGAIN WHEN THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH VEHICLES AND PERSONS WHO HAVE COMMITTED SERIOUS AND VIOLENT CRIMES, I.E.

WANTED PERSONS.

IT WOULD ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY.

SO THIS HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A WORKFLOW INVOLVING A MISSING PERSON.

A PERSON GOES MISSING AND IS POSSIBLY LINKED WITH A VEHICLE THAT IS THEN REPORTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO ENTER THE MISSING PERSON AND VEHICLE INTO THE SYSTEM.

WHEN A LICENSE PLATE READER HITS A TAG, IT PROVIDES THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE THAT WAS READ, ALLOWING LAW ENFORCEMENT TO RESPOND AND HOPEFULLY QUICKLY LOCATE THE PERSON.

AND VEHICLE, OBVIOUSLY.

SPECIFIC EXAMPLE I'VE CITED HERE WAS ONE THAT I WAS PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN AS WATCH COMMANDER BACK IN 2022, WHERE A WOMAN FROM THE CITY OF TAMARAC HAD LEFT HER HOME TO GO VISIT HER SISTER.

SHE DID NOT RESPOND OR ARRIVE.

SO SIX HOURS LATER, HER HUSBAND ENTERED HER AS A MISSING PERSON WITH A VEHICLE THAT SHE LEFT IN THE LICENSE PLATE.

READERS IN THE CITY OF LAUDERHILL SHOWED THAT SHE HAD PASSED THROUGH THE CITY OF LAUDERHILL.

SOME HOURS LATER, HER LICENSE PLATE HIT IN THE CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, AND THEREAFTER, AFTER MIDNIGHT, IT WAS READ BY PASSING TOW TRUCKS ON I-95 NORTHBOUND.

THIS ALLOWED US TO ZONE INTO THE AREA OF COMMERCIAL AND 95 AND THEREAFTER HER VEHICLE WAS READ AT THE GAS STATION, AT POWER LINE AND COMMERCIAL, ALLOWING TAMARAC

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SO IT'S PROVEN EFFECTIVE EVEN HERE FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC, EVEN WITHOUT A LARGE SYSTEM.

A SECOND WORKFLOW, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE COMMON, IS WITH CRIME INVOLVED.

IF A CRIME OCCURS AND A VEHICLE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS EITHER LINKED TO OR PARTICIPATING IN THE CRIME ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO EITHER QUERY IT BASED UPON VEHICLE TYPE OR TO ENTER A SPECIFIC TAG INTO THE SYSTEM FOR A WANTED VEHICLE.

AGAIN, WHEN THAT VEHICLE, THAT LICENSE PLATE HITS.

AN ALERT IS SENT OUT ALLOWING LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SATURATE THE AREA, TRY TO LOCATE THE VEHICLE, AND HOPEFULLY APPREHEND THE SUSPECTS.

WITH BSO, WE TEND TO DO THAT USING AVIATION MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE THESE DAYS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE STRESS OF A PURSUIT, REMOVE THAT, AND ALLOW US TO FIND THE MOST OPPORTUNE TIME TO MAKE CONTACT, THEREBY INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY BOTH BY ARRESTING PEOPLE, CRIMINALS, BUT ALSO BY NOT ENDANGERING THE PUBLIC WITH DANGEROUS PURSUITS.

SO WE'VE HAD MANY NUMBER OF SUCCESS STORIES, BUT I'VE SELECTED A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES HERE.

A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, A MURDER OCCURRED IN A BUSINESS IN HOLLYWOOD.

THE SUSPECT FLED THE SCENE.

HOLLYWOOD POLICE RESPONDED QUICKLY, IDENTIFIED WHO THE PERSON WAS, WHAT VEHICLE THEY WERE ASSOCIATED WITH.

AND WITHIN AN HOUR LPP'S IN THE CITY OF DEERFIELD BEACH IDENTIFIED THE SUBJECT AS PASSING BY.

AND BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE DEERFIELD UNITS WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THE SUSPECT AND VEHICLE AS HE WAS EXITING HIS PARKING SPACE AT HIS APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND THE ARREST WAS QUICKLY MADE. THERE WAS ANOTHER INCIDENCE IN THE CITY OF PEMBROKE PINES WHEREBY A FELON CONVICTED FELON HAD BEFRIENDED A TEENAGER.

RESPONDED TO THE HOME, ROBBED HIM.

BEAT THE PARENTS, KIDNAPED THE TEENAGER.

SHE WAS THEREAFTER LOCATED IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA WITH THE HELP OF ALPR.

AND SHE WAS ABLE TO BE SAFELY BE RECOVERED AND RETURNED HOME.

BSO AVIATION, AS I MENTIONED, HAS BEEN QUITE SUCCESSFUL WITH OVER 6500 MISSIONS IN 2020 AND 2021, WHICH LED THEM BEING RECEIVING NATIONAL RECOGNITION AND AWARDS TO THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE, AS WELL AS AWARDS FROM THE COMPANIES, THE LEAR COMPANY, THE HEAT CAMERAS THAT ARE ABLE TO LOCATE AND OBSERVE PEOPLE.

SO AGAIN, GREATLY ENHANCED OUR EFFICACY IN TERMS OF STOLEN VEHICLES AND THE ABILITY TO SAFELY APPREHEND PEOPLE WITHOUT, AGAIN, WITHOUT ENGAGING IN UNSAFE PURSUITS.

SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE HOW A SITUATION MIGHT OCCUR WHEREBY AN ALPR TAG HAS BEEN READ BY A READER.

IN THIS SITUATION, A NOTIFIED CORAL SPRINGS DISPATCH, WHO THEN SHARES THE INFORMATION WITH BSO DISPATCH WHO PUTS IT OUT ONTO OUR RADIOS.

AS THIS VEHICLE IS LEAVING THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS ENTERING TAMARAC, IT ENDS UP GOING INTO NORTH LAUDERDALE, BACK INTO TAMARAC, AND ULTIMATELY INTO NORTH LAUDERDALE.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE AUDIO AND FOLLOWED BY THE VIDEO EXAMPLE.

AM I PUSHING A BUTTON OR.

I'M SORRY. OH, OKAY.

SORRY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN GET THE YEAH, I SAW THE LAST TWO DIGITS WERE NINE FIVE, SO I BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE IT.

YEAH, I THINK WE'VE GOT EYES ON 97 ARROYO.

AND HE HAS A STANDBY CAR.

I CAN CLEAR THE AUDIO SEIZURES.

YEAH, I GOT EYES ON HIM.

AND. DISPATCH. GIVE ME A GIVE ME A DISPATCHER, AND THEN GIVE ME A CALL, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT. TWO RIVERSIDE, TWO SOUTHBOUND.

ALL RIGHT. DOWN ON TRUSTEE.

YEAH. HE SOUTHGATE AND COMING UP TO 83RD AVE.

ALL RIGHT, POP. I'M ON A HELICOPTER.

GOT ME. COUNCIL, I GOT YOU.

ALL RIGHT, JUST LET NORTH LAUDERDALE KNOW.

PASSING 81ST AVENUE.

WAIT A MINUTE. SOUTHBOUND.

SOUTHBOUND 81ST HALF.

IF YOU WANT TO PATCH ME IN WITH MCNAB.

MCNAB. AND SOUTHBOUND 81ST HALF.

SLOWING DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO GO EASTBOUND.

EASTBOUND ON 62ND STREET NORTHWEST, 62ND STREET.

NORTHWEST. COVID-19 85 SOUTH.

GOING DOWN EASTBOUND, 62ND STREET.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE SWITCHING BACK TO EASTBOUND AND PASSING THE COMMON.

ACTUALLY, TURN ONTO BAILEY.

HERE. BAILEY ROAD.

POLICE FOUND BAILEY ROAD PASSING 50 FOOT.

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JUST LISTEN, CASEY, I'LL CALL IT.

AND COMING UP TO 63RD GOING TO BE NORTHBOUND, 63RD, NORTHBOUND, 63RD TERRACE FROM BAILEY PLACE AND GETTING READY TO BAIL OUT.

BAILING OUT 18 COURT.

FOUR OF THEM STAY WITH THE DRIVER.

BLACK SHIRT WITH BLACK PANTS RUNNING EASTBOUND.

FOUR BLACK WENT OUT.

I'M STAYING WITH THE DRIVER.

HE'S TWO HOUSES UP, SO WE HAD A BIT OF A SWITCH UP WITH THE DISPATCH.

WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU HEAR THE DISPATCH TAPES, HOW IT KIND OF INITIATED AND.

CLOSER. OH 33.

ALPHA 2567.

GIVE ME AN EAU DE REFERENCE.

THAT PREVIOUS SIGNAL TEN HIT.

BLOCK BMW X3.

IT'S NOW HEADED.

SOUTHBOUND ON UNIVERSITY FROM ROYAL PALM, FLORIDA TO JULIET.

PAPA ROMEO ROMEO 95 HARBOR UNIT IS 97 OVERHEAD.

PLEASE STANDBY FOR A BOLO BOLO FROM MARGATE AT 100 ROCK ISLAND.

REFERENCE LPR SIGNAL TEN BLACK BMW X3 SERIES FLORIDA.

TAG JULIET, PAPA ROMEO ROMEO 95 HEADING NORTHBOUND ON WHITE ISLAND.

THREE MINUTE TIME DELAY IN THE BOLO.

SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CORAL SPRINGS DISPATCH WILL PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO BSO.

BSO WOULD THEN PROVIDE IT TO ALL THE DIFFERENT UNITS THAT ARE IN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS HERE AT BSO.

ONE OF THE THINGS I POINT OUT WITH THE VIDEO THAT YOU DID NOT SEE IS ANY OTHER SUBSEQUENT VEHICLES, ALONG WITH THE STOLEN VEHICLE THAT AVIATION WAS MONITORING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AT NO POINT WAS IN THAT VIDEO TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS POSED.

IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT ONE OF THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THE SUBJECTS MAY HAVE BEEN AWARE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD SPOTTED THEM.

SO OFTENTIMES, OCCASIONALLY THEY DO IDENTIFY THAT AVIATION IS THERE.

BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE FIELD PRESENCE.

AND AS YOU SAW WITH THE BAILOUT AT THE TIME OF THE BAILOUT, THERE WAS NO LAW ENFORCEMENT IMMEDIATELY PRESENT.

BUT THEY ARE RESPONDING TO THE AREA, SETTING UP THE PERIMETER, ALLOWING AVIATION AND K-9 TO GUIDE THEM TO WHERE THE SUSPECTS ARE.

ALPHA. SO THERE WE GO.

SO ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE BELIEVE A LPR SYSTEM WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC FOR THE YEAR OF 2023.

STATISTICS SHOWED THAT ROUGHLY TWO THIRDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRESTED FOR COMMITTING CRIMES IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC CAME FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

AGAIN, THESE ARE PEOPLE COMING IN, PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THEM WITH THE USE OF MOTOR VEHICLES.

AND THIS WOULD ALLOW US GREATER EFFICACY IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING CRIMINALS AND MAKING APPREHENSIONS OF THOSE PERSONS.

SO THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY BY COMPREHENSIVELY COVERING CRITICAL POINTS AND PLACES, INCLUDING POINTS OF ENTRY AND CITY PARKS TO CATCH A PROSECUTE CRIMINALS, LOCATE MISSING ENDANGERED PERSONS.

PART OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO LEVERAGE THE EXISTING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP REDUCE COST TO SELECT A DURABLE, RELIABLE SYSTEM WITH AN EFFICIENT WARRANTY AND SERVICE PLAN THAT'S MOST FISCALLY PRUDENT TO THE CITY AND BSO, AND TO ESTABLISH A PERPETUATING SYSTEM OF MAINTENANCE, UPGRADE, AND USAGE.

WE WERE PROPOSING FIXED LPP'S AT MAJOR ROADWAY CHOKE POINTS AROUND THE CITY.

VERITABLY PUTTING A PROTECTIVE BUBBLE AROUND MOST PARTS OF THE CITY.

SUPPLEMENTING THIS WITH A LICENSE PLATE, READING TRAILERS THAT WOULD ADDRESS CUT THRUS AND OTHER FIXED POSTS ARE NOT EFFICIENT DUE TO TOO MANY ROADWAYS.

AND THE INTEGRATION OF THESE APIS INTO THE BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER WITH THE SECURITY MASK.

SORRY, THE TAMARAC SECURITY MASTER PLAN.

A SECOND SET OF APIS HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR CITY PARKS AND FACILITIES.

HERE'S JUST A QUICK SURVEY OF DIFFERENT ALPR SYSTEMS THAT ARE BEING USED BY MUNICIPALITIES IN BROWARD COUNTY.

THERE ARE ROUGHLY 32 MUNICIPALITIES IN BROWARD COUNTY, AND THIS REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 19 OF THOSE.

SO THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF CITIES IN BROWARD COUNTY DO HAVE SOME ALPR SYSTEM TO THEM.

THE ANALOGY THAT I'VE KIND OF THINK IS MOST APROPOS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AN ALARM SYSTEM ON THEIR HOME, AND YOURS DOES NOT.

DOES IT MEAN THAT A CRIME WILL NOT HAPPEN TO THE HOUSE WITHOUT AN ALARM SYSTEM? NO, IT DOES NOT. BUT IT DOES INCREASE THE CHANCES OF SOMEBODY LOOKING FOR A SOFTER TARGET AND GOING ELSEWHERE.

SO HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF OUR NEIGHBORS, I MEAN, CORAL SPRINGS, NORTH LAUDERDALE, LAUDERHILL, EACH HAVE SYSTEMS ALREADY IN PLACE.

SOME OF WHICH ARE EXTREMELY ROBUST.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER WAY OF, OF.

PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY.

WITH THE CONSIDERATIONS WE LOOKED AT WAS TRYING TO USE EXISTING CITY LIGHT POLES, CITY RIGHTS OF WAY, CITY MEDIANS, DETERMINING IF WE COULD LEVERAGE FIBER OPTICS IN THE

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SO WITH USING CITY RIGHT AWAY, IT ALLOWS US TO CUT DOWN THE TIME PROCESS, ALLOW SMOOTHER, LESS, LESS PERMITTING REQUESTS.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S HERE IN HOME WITH NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE TRIED TO USE EXISTING ELECTRICAL AND IN SOME LOCATIONS WE'VE LEVERAGED SOLAR OPTIONS.

THE RED LIGHT POLES WERE BEING USED WERE PROPOSED FOR A NUMBER OF THE LOCATIONS, BUT WITH SOME ISSUES RIGHT NOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL COST TO REPLACE THE POLES OR PUT POLES IN THOSE LOCATIONS.

BUT AGAIN, THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY WERE AT WERE WERE MOSTLY GOOD FOR PUTTING LPP'S AS WELL.

AND AGAIN, WITH A FUTURE TAMARAC RAIL CRIME CENTER DOWN THE ROAD, WE HOPE TO SEE ADDITIONAL STAFFING.

BUT AGAIN, EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE, NOT JUST A COST.

IN LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS THAT WERE OUT THERE.

THERE WERE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS, THE FIRST OF WHICH WAS THE CONTRACT.

IF IT WAS PURCHASE OR LEASE.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO USE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUNDS WHICH AGAIN, FOR OUR PURPOSES PUSHES US TOWARDS A PURCHASE PROJECT.

HOWEVER, WITH OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE CITY LEASE WAS APPROPRIATE IN OTHER SITUATIONS.

WE LOOKED AT THE WARRANTY THAT WAS INVOLVED, THE SERVICE AGREEMENT COSTS, IF THERE'S RECURRING LICENSING COSTS.

AGAIN, THE METHODOLOGY OF PURCHASE, WHETHER IT'S GOVERNMENT CONTRACT REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, PIGGYBACKING OTHER CITY CONTRACTS IN TERMS OF THE HARDWARE, THE RANGE OF THE CAMERAS, THE NIGHT VISION CAPABILITY, THE CAPABILITY TO READ TAGS AT SPEED CELLULAR BASED OPTIONS VERSUS DIRECTLY LINKED AND AGAIN, SOLAR ELECTRICAL AND WITH THE SOFTWARE, THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE THE SEARCH ABILITY, THE USER INTERFACE AND THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE MONITORING, SOME OF THESE SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, CAN IDENTIFY VEHICLES AND NARROW DOWN IF A VEHICLE HAS A BUMPER STICKER, IF A VEHICLE DOESN'T HAVE A TAG.

IN TERMS OF THE MONITORING, SOME SEND TEXT MESSAGES, SOME ARE UTILIZED VIA EMAIL, SOME MUST BE LOGGED INTO THE SYSTEM, AND MOST OF THE MONITORING SYSTEMS ARE WEB BASED.

SO YOU'RE ABLE TO LOG IN VIA A COMPUTER.

THE LAPTOPS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO OUR DEPUTIES.

HERE'S A QUICK EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE CAMERAS LOOK LIKE.

THE VIGILANT ONES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO WITH FOR BSO'S PROPOSAL.

AND THE FLOCK CAMERAS, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE CITY PARKS ARE LOOKING AT FOR THEIR SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

AND AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT REALLY OBNOXIOUS LOOKING.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE ESTHETICS OF THE CITY TO INSTALL THESE USUALLY NOT KNOWN UNLESS PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR THEM AND THEY START TO SEE THEM, THAT THEY'VE BEEN DRIVING BY THEM THE WHOLE TIME AND UNAWARE.

SO THIS IS A QUICK, QUICK MAP OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.

THE BLUE DOTS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AS A FIRST ROUND.

THE ONE I WOULD POINT OUT ON PINE ISLAND IS ACTUALLY SHOULD BE SOUTH AND CLOSER TO COMMERCIAL.

AND THE ONE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE, THE YELLOW FOR THE FUTURE IS NOT THE LOCATION, ALTHOUGH THAT'S PROBABLY NEAR BY WHERE THE CITY MIGHT HAVE ITS LPR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

BUT FOR PHASE ONE, WE'RE PROPOSING 33 CAMERAS AT NINE LOCATIONS ON 13 POLES.

SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A BIT OF PROTECTIVE BUBBLES AROUND THE LARGER PARTS OF THE CITY AND EVEN CAMERAS ON A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED PARTS OF THE CITY BASED UPON GEOGRAPHY AND ROADWAYS. SO AGAIN, 33 CAMERAS, NINE LOCATIONS 13 POLES.

THE APPROXIMATE COST THERE FOR THE FIXED POST LPP'S IS A PROXY $520,000 WITH A FIVE YEAR EXTENDED WARRANTY.

THIS WILL BE SUPPLEMENTED BY ALPR TRAILERS, THREE TRAILERS WHICH ARE SPEED TRAILERS THAT READ THE SPEEDS OF VEHICLES GOING BY DISPLAY.

YOU KNOW, THE FLASHING NUMBER IF YOUR VEHICLE IS SPEEDING.

AND THESE ALSO HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER SYSTEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

SO WE FEEL THIS IS A DUAL PURPOSE THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC AND SPEEDING CONCERNS IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC, WHILE ALSO HAVING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY AND MOBILITY OF THE ALPR SYSTEMS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THESE TRAILERS.

THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL FOURTH TRAILER THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE IN TERMS OF GROUPED IN WITH THE FIXED POST LPP'S AS WELL.

SO THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT WITH BOTH SETS OF CITY LTF AND FEDERAL LETF WOULD BE $669,000.

THE LAST PART OF PHASE ONE, OF COURSE, IS, IS MONITORING.

WE WOULD HAVE A PATROL DIRECTIVE FOR OUR DEPUTIES TO ACCESS THE WEB BASED PROGRAM ON THEIR AGENCY ISSUED LAPTOPS, AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT INSTALLED RIGHT NOW WITH THE ONE TRAILER THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, IN ADDITION TO THE COMMERCIAL DATA WHICH IS OBTAINED FROM OTHER FOR EXAMPLE, TOW TRUCKS HAVE SOME OF THESE ON THEM TO HELP THEM IDENTIFY VEHICLES FOR THEIR REPOSSESSION PURPOSES.

THEY ALSO ARE ALLOWED TO THEY ALSO TELL US, HEY, THIS TOW TRUCK, RIGHT, A STOLEN VEHICLE THAT'S PARKED AT A CERTAIN LOCATION, ALLOWING US TO RESPOND AND TRY TO RECOVER IT.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR TRIGGER.

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THANK YOU. TODAY, AS LIEUTENANT HAD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THERE WAS TWO PARTS TO THIS PROJECT.

ONE PART USING ONE TYPE OF SOLUTION, THE SECOND PART BEING FOR CITY PARKS AND FACILITIES USING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SOLUTION.

BOTH HAVE THEIR ADVANTAGES DISADVANTAGES, AND THIS ONE WAS TAILORED TO CITY PARKS AND FACILITIES AND SUCH.

THIS ONE IS MORE STRUCTURED AS A LEASE.

WHEREAS LIEUTENANTS THE BSO SIDE OF THINGS WAS STRUCTURED AS NOW A PURCHASE.

THESE ONES USE SOLAR, WHEREAS THEIRS ARE MORE HARD WIRED EITHER USING CELLULAR OR FIBER OPTICS WHERE WE HAVE THEM AVAILABLE.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT PARKS AND FACILITIES.

WE HAD ALSO WORKED WITH BSO TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE ESSENTIALLY GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS? SO BSO HAD KINDLY HELPED AND PROVIDED SOME CRIME STATISTICS FOR THE DIFFERENT PARKS, WHICH HELPED US TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, THE BEST LOCATIONS FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING A PILOT PROJECT. MY OWN SIREN WENT OFF, I GUESS.

THAT'S OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, IT'S THE THESE ARE LEASE.

SO THE SUBSCRIPTION IS BE FOR ONE YEAR.

SO THE PILOT PROJECT FOR ONE YEAR WOULD BE NINE CAMERAS AT THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMPLEX, WHICH HAS THREE DIFFERENT ENTRANCES THE TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX, THE VETERANS PARK AND DOG PARK, AS WELL AS SUNSET POINT PARK.

AND LIKE WE MENTIONED, I'M NOT THE CRIME STATISTIC EXPERT HERE, BUT BASIC STATISTICS PROVIDED THESE WERE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR A PHASE ONE OR PILOT PROJECT.

WITH FLOCK CAMERAS, WHICH I SAID ARE LEAST THEY HAVE SOME SMALL OUT OF POCKET ONE TIME COSTS DEPENDING ON THE INSTALLATION TYPE, WHETHER IT'S A POLE OR JUST MOUNT TO EXISTING POLE. BUT $3,000 PER CAMERA PER YEAR IS THE TYPICAL COST FOR THE CAMERA.

SO FOR THE FIRST YEAR FOR THE PILOT PROJECT, IT WOULD BE $30,850 FOR THOSE NINE CAMERAS.

WANT TO OPEN UP QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MR. DANIEL. THE BSO HAS IMPRESSED ME TWICE IN A WEEKEND, SATURDAY AND TODAY.

CAPTAINS LOOKING AT ME LIKE.

WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE, I LOVE IT.

JUST FOR THE SAFETY OF IT.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SPEEDING. DOES THIS INCLUDE SPEEDING TO THE CAMERAS? CATCH. SPEEDING.

YEAH. SO WITH OUR TRAILERS, OUR MOBILE TRAILERS, THAT WILL THAT'S ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE TRAILERS WHERE IT WOULD SIGNAL VEHICLES THAT ARE SPEEDING IN THE AREA.

AND SO IT WOULD ALERT THOSE VEHICLES THAT THIS IS THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT, WHETHER IT'S 35 MILES AN HOUR, ETC., FOR THEM TO SLOW DOWN THEIR SPEED.

WILL IT ACTUALLY CATCH THE VEHICLE IN TERMS OF SIGHTING THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO, BUT IT CERTAINLY WILL ALERT THE DRIVER THAT'S DRIVING THE VEHICLE TO SAY YOU'RE IN EXCESS OF THE SPEED AND THE TRAILERS IS LIKE THE ONE YOU PUT ON MILLENNIUM SCHOOL THAT.

IT'S LIKE A VERY MOBILE LOOKING.

YES. SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE SEEN IN ANY OTHER CITY, YOU KNOW, SPEED TRAILERS THAT HAS A POSTED SPEED LIMIT ON IT AND, AND THE VEHICLES PASSING BY, IT EITHER FLASHES THE SPEED THAT THE VEHICLE IS TRAVELING.

OR IT GIVES AN INDICATOR FOR THAT VEHICLE TO SLOW DOWN.

YES, SIR. IT WAS. WE TESTED ONE ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD JUST WEST OF 94TH AVENUE.

AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU SAW. YES.

THAT'S OKAY. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PURCHASING, THE FLASHES.

IT READS THE SPEEDS, IT FLASHES A SIGN SAYING SPEEDS.

IT ACTUALLY LIMITS IT.

SO PEOPLE CAN'T TRY TO, YOU KNOW, SEE HOW FAST THEY CAN THROW A FASTBALL OR HOW FAST THEY CAN DRIVE THEIR CAR.

THERE IS A CAP TO IT. SO IT'S NOT TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO SPEED.

BUT AGAIN, IT TRIES TO ALERT PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE SPEEDING.

BUT IT HAS THE LP'S ON IT AS WELL TO ALLOW THE DUAL USAGE.

IS IT TOO INVASIVE TO SAY THE SAME VEHICLE CONTINUES TO DO THAT? YOU KNOW, PUSH THOSE LIMITS.

SO IT DOESN'T TRACK LIKE THAT.

IT'S NOT TRACKING VEHICLES.

SO IF A VEHICLE GOES BY OUR SPEED TRAILERS MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY, IT'S NOT TRACKING THE SAME VEHICLE.

SO IT'S NOT ALERTING US ON THAT.

THE ONLY WAY IT WILL ALERT US IS IF A VEHICLE TAG IS REGISTERED INTO THE LPR SYSTEM AS A WANTED VEHICLE.

THAT'S THAT'S WHEN WE'LL GET THOSE ALERTS.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S CONSISTENTLY SPEEDING PAST, IT'S JUST GOING TO FLASH THEIR SPEED.

IT'S NOT GOING TO ALERT US THAT THE VEHICLE IS SPEEDING.

LIEUTENANT, TO THE STEP BY STEP PROCESS.

SO YOU HAD THE AVIATION PART OF IT.

IS IT? SO YOU SAW THAT VEHICLE GOING THROUGH CITIES.

WHAT TOOK SO LONG FOR DEPUTIES TO HONE IN ON? SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO OUR PURSUIT POLICY IS VERY DEFINED.

WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO PURSUE FOR A.

FELONY TYPE VEHICLES.

HOWEVER, AND ALTHOUGH A STOLEN VEHICLE IS A FELONY VEHICLE, IT'S AGGRESSIVE FELONY VEHICLES OR VIOLENT FELONY VEHICLES.

AND SO IT DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL FOR US TO PURSUE THAT VEHICLE.

HOWEVER, AVIATION, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A ROAD VEHICLE, IT'S AN ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, FLYING AIRCRAFT THEY CAN PURSUE ANYWHERE.

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SO ALTHOUGH YOU DIDN'T SEE ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES BEHIND A STOLEN VEHICLE, THEY WERE CERTAINLY IN THE AREA AND READILY AVAILABLE FOR WHEN THOSE SUBJECTS DID BAIL OUT OF THE VEHICLE. THAT WAY, WE COULD SET A PERIMETER AROUND THE LOCATION, AND WE COULD SWIFTLY MOVE IN TO SECURE AND OR DETAIN THOSE SUBJECTS.

IN THAT EXAMPLE, THEY KNEW THEY WERE BEING PURSUED.

WE WERE GOING FAST.

THAT VEHICLE IS BEING PURSUED BY AVIATION.

YES. SO THEY KIND OF KNEW.

THEY CAN HEAR IT.

I'M ASSUMING NO I WOULDN'T.

SO THE ALTITUDE OF THE AVIATION UNIT IS IT REACHES HIGH ALTITUDES.

THEY HAVE A VERY, VERY ROBUST AND ELOQUENT.

VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM.

CAMERA SYSTEM. SO THEY'RE ABLE TO ZOOM IN ON THE CAR.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY'RE ABLE TO ZOOM IN VERY, VERY CLOSE ON ON THE DRIVER AND SUSPECTS OF THAT VEHICLE.

SO TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SUBJECTS KNEW AVIATION WAS OVERHEAD.

I WOULD HIGHLY DOUBT THAT THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE SUBJECTS MAY KNOW THE AVIATION IS OVERHEAD, BUT THEY HAVE TO SOMETIMES, IN MOST CASES, PHYSICALLY LOOK UP AND SEE THE HELICOPTER ABOVE THEIR. WITH CONSENSUS.

HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO DEPLOY THIS? WE NEED TO GET THE APPROVAL FROM THE CITY COMMISSION, AS WELL AS FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR THE FEDERAL SIDE OF IT, TO BUY THE TRAILERS.

I BELIEVE THE CONTRACTS.

THE QUOTE IS GOOD FOR 30 DAYS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEPLOYMENT WOULD BE, BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE TO GET IT DEPLOYED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

LAST QUESTION.

YOU CAPTURE THE SUSPECTS THEY STOLE FROM THE.

YOU KNOW, THEY ROBBED THE BANK, OR THEY HAVE GOODIES IN THEIR CARS.

YOU GUYS CONFISCATE IT.

DOES THE CITY GET ANY PORTION OF THAT REVENUE THAT'S CAPTURED? FOR ANY CITATIONS ISSUED FOR ANY REPOS THAT'S BEING DONE.

YEAH. SO THERE ARE OFTEN TIMES WHERE VEHICLES ARE USED IN THE COMMISSION OF A CRIME OF FELONY CRIME.

WE CERTAINLY DO PUT IN A REQUEST FOR CONFISCATION THAT GOES THROUGH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND LEAGUE WILL MAKE THE APPROPRIATE DETERMINATION ON WHETHER IT WOULD BENEFIT THE AGENCY TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE CONFISCATION, OR WHETHER IT WOULD NOT BENEFIT THE AGENCY TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH CONFISCATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL PARAMETERS AROUND IT THAT I'M NOT PRIVY TO DISCUSS RIGHT NOW.

IN REGARDS OF HOW INVOLVED LEGAL GETS INTO A CONFISCATION, WHETHER IT'S PROPERTY OR WHETHER IT'S FINANCES OR ETC.

BUT WE CERTAINLY DO REQUEST FOR VEHICLES AND MONETARY VALUE TO BE CONFISCATED WHEN IT'S USED IN THE COMMISSION OF A CRIME.

I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

ARE WE ABLE TO SHARE THIS VIDEO ON SOCIAL MEDIA? THE MINUTES. I KNOW IT'S RECORDED, BUT YES, IT'S RECORDED.

YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, DANIEL.

GOOD MORNING. THEY ANSWER THE QUESTION.

ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS FROM OKAY.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THIS SYSTEM? ANY COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER CITY RESIDENTS? ACTUALLY, IT'S QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

WE'VE HAD VERY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SUCCESS STORIES FROM OUR PARTNER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

WE'VE HAD SUCCESS STORIES FROM RESIDENTS THAT THANKED US FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS AND LOCATING THEIR VEHICLE AND OTHER PROPERTY THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, STOLEN FROM THEM.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS AT ALL.

ANY ISSUES WITH PRIVACY, WHICH, BASED ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU PREVIOUSLY ANSWERED, IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT CRIMINAL, THEIR PRIVACY IS STILL PROTECTED. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING REGARDING PRIVACY CONCERNS.

YOU KNOW, AS INDICATED BEFORE, OUR GOAL IS TO PUT FIXED LPP'S ON THE BOUNDARIES, THE BORDERS OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

YOU'LL SEE OTHER CITIES.

THEY HAVE IT WITHIN THE CITY, AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE OTHER CITIES.

CERTAINLY WE ARE SUGGESTING TO HAVE MOBILE TRAILERS SO THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO PUT THEM WHERE NEEDED TO, TO PROTECT.

AND I'M FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THEN IT WILL DETER SPEEDERS, ESPECIALLY ON SOUTH GATE.

SO I'M GOOD WITH.

BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING THIS.

OKAY. HOW LONG WILL YOU KEEP THE DATA? BECAUSE IT WILL BE PRACTICALLY EVERYONE'S DATA.

WELL, THE DATA WITH VIGILANT IS IS OWNED BY BSO.

IT'S STORED JOINTLY AT AN OFFSITE, I BELIEVE CITY OF MIAMI HOSTS FOR ALL VIGILANT DATA FOR ALL THE JURISDICTIONS.

BUT IT'S OWNED IN PERPETUITY.

WITH WITH FLOCK.

I BELIEVE THEY MAINTAIN IT FOR 30 DAYS.

AND IF WE WERE TO DISASSOCIATE FROM THEM, WE DON'T OWN OR MAINTAIN THE DATA.

BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR SYSTEM, WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, THAT DATA.

SO THEY ONLY STORE FOR 30 DAYS, WHEREAS FOR WITH VIGILANT, IT'S STORED IN PERPETUITY.

SO IF A CAR IS BEING USED FOR FELONY CRIMES OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, OR IF AN INVESTIGATION LEADS US BACK IN TIME, WE'RE ABLE TO STILL GET THAT DATA AND SHOW THAT THAT

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SO THE DATA THAT YOU KEEP EITHER WITH YOU OR THE THE VENDOR IS ONLY ON THE CRIMINALS.

IT'S IT'S ON ALL TAGS.

OKAY. BECAUSE AGAIN WE THERE'S TIMES WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THE VEHICLE WAS INVOLVED IN A CRIME UNTIL MUCH LATER.

SO THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND SEARCH FOR A SPECIFIC TAG AFTER THE TIME IS STILL IS STILL RELEVANT, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THAT EVIDENCE SPOILED AND NO LONGER BE ACCESSIBLE.

SO FOR EVERY, YOU'LL HAVE EVERYONE'S DATA OF WHERE THEY DRIVE WITHIN THOSE BORDERS, WHICH IS PROBABLY ALREADY A DONE DEAL THAT THAT'S ALREADY.

YEAH, BUT IT'S ONLY WHEN IT PASSES AN LPR SYSTEM.

SO IT'S ONLY THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION.

SO IF A LOCATION IS AT, FOR EXAMPLE, UNIVERSITY AND SOUTHGATE, WHEN A VEHICLE PASSES THAT LOCATION, WE KNOW THAT THAT VEHICLE PASSED A LOCATION.

OUTSIDE OF THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE VEHICLE WENT TO.

SO IN TERMS OF LPR FOR US USING LPR SYSTEM, WE HAVE TO DEPLOY RESOURCES IN THAT GENERAL AREA TO TRY TO LOCATE THE VEHICLE.

IT'S NOT GIVING US A POINT BY POINT DIRECTORY OR LOCATION FOR WHERE THE VEHICLE IS TRAVELING.

NOW, WILL THIS INFORMATION BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE BUT FOR FINDING A PARTICULAR CRIMINAL? OR WILL PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO USE THIS INFORMATION FOR OTHER USE OTHER THAN WHAT IS AUTHORIZED FOR? SO WE HAVE VERY TIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON UTILIZING DATA SUCH AS THIS.

DAVID DATA, WHICH IS OUR FCIC NCIC DATABASE.

WE HAVE COURSES THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE.

WE HAVE TO BE SWORN IN, AND WE GET FINED.

THE AGENCY GETS FINED IF WE MISUSE THE INFORMATION.

ON ON THIS SLIDE.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR ME? I KNOW YOU SAID TWO THIRDS OF CRIMINALS NOT FROM CITY OF TAMARAC, BUT THEN I SEE 97.

I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THAT REPRESENTS.

YES, MA'AM. SO THAT'S A LIST OF ALL THE ARRESTS THAT WERE MADE IN THE YEAR 2023.

SO LISTING THE CITY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PERSON WHO WAS ARRESTED.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE 97 PERSONS IN TAMARAC THAT WERE ARRESTED FOR CRIMES IN TAMARAC.

BUT THE TOTALITY OF ALL THE OTHER NUMBERS IS ROUGHLY 200.

SO OF 300 PEOPLE THAT WERE ARRESTED, TWO THIRDS OF THOSE LIST ARRESTS HOME ADDRESSES OUTSIDE THE CITY OF TAMARAC, MEANING THEY CAME INTO OUR CITY WHEN THEY TO COMMIT THEIR CRIMES.

SO THESE ARE ALL THE ARRESTS THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC, BUT ONLY 97 WERE ACTUAL RESIDENTS, CORRECT? OKAY. THAT BEING SAID, HOW DOES.

RIGHT. 97 WERE RESIDENTS OF TAMARA.

THANK YOU. THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT EVERYONE ELSE WASN'T.

SO TWO THIRD OF THE PEOPLE THAT COMMIT CRIME WERE NOT FROM TAMARAC.

CORRECT. WHICH IS GOOD TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT CRIMINALS.

THAT BEING SAID, WOULDN'T IT BEHOOVE THE BROWARD COUNTY TO JUST DO IT FOR ALL THEIR CITIES INSTEAD OF US PAYING THAT BILL? I'M JUST SAYING IT'S POSSIBLY A GOOD SUGGESTION.

I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT.

I'M NOT SURE IF BROWARD COUNTY WILL WANT TO TAKE ON THE BILL FOR ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE CRIMINALS ARE BROWARD CRIMINALS, NOT NECESSARILY TAMARAC.

WELL, YOU HAVE ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, BALTIMORE, BOYNTON BEACH.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE FULL LIST, BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY CRIMINALS THAT COME IN BROWARD COUNTY FROM OTHER COUNTIES VERSUS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, DE PALM BEACH COUNTY. AND AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC FOR US TO BE MORE EQUITABLE AND OUR CRIME SOLVING AND CRIME FIGHTING WAYS. SO IT'S ONE IT'S DUAL PURPOSE FOR THE PARKS.

IT'S ALSO SERVES A PURPOSE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I'M NOT SURE IF BROWARD COUNTY WOULD EVEN LOOK AT THIS TO CONSIDER.

THE FINANCIAL FEES THAT WILL COME WITH FOR ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES, BECAUSE I'M NOT LEAVING TO ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE.

BECAUSE FOR THE PILOT, FOR THE PILOT, WE'RE 30,000, RIGHT? IF WE'RE LEASING, THE PILOT IS KIND OF LEASING.

SO AFTER THE PILOT, WHAT'S THE COST? SO THE LEASE IS IS PER YEAR.

THE GOAL HERE WAS TO DO IT AS A PILOT WHERE WE TRY IT OUT FOR A YEAR, BUT EVERY YEAR THE AS OF RIGHT NOW THE COST IS THE SAME.

SO IT WILL BE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE ONE TIME COST IN YEAR TWO BEYOND, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE $3,000 PER CAMERA PER YEAR.

SO THE COST WILL NOT BE THE SAME BECAUSE PHASE TWO YOU'RE ADDING MORE CAMERAS.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE LESS OKAY.

THE COST PER THE CAMERA WILL STAY THE SAME UNLESS THEY CHANGE THEIR PRICE.

BUT IF WE ARE ALL GOOD WITH HOW PHASE ONE WORKS OUT AND WE DECIDE TO MOVE AND ADD MORE CAMERAS, YES, THAT WOULD ADD MORE COST TO IT.

SO POSSIBLE WITH LEASING THE COST WOULD BE HOW MUCH, SAY AFTER THE PILOT.

AND I THINK THERE'S FOUR PHASES.

OR IS IT JUST TWO THE BLUE AND THE YELLOW.

THERE'S TWO SEPARATE PROGRAMS. WE HAVE THE VIGILANT PROGRAM WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE LTF FUNDS, WHICH WOULD BE FOR THE PERIMETER OF THE CITY, WHICH IS SEPARATE AND APART, ALTHOUGH COMPLEMENTARY OF THE

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OKAY. I'M LOST AGAIN.

SO. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE HALF A MILLION REGARDLESS FOR ONE SEPARATE PROGRAM.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAY? YEAH. LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

SO LITTLE FUNDS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, TRUST FUND, THOSE FUNDS ARE SEIZED MONEY BASED FROM INVESTIGATIONS, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS WAS ASKING ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE IF WE CATCH A VEHICLE, CATCH SUSPECTS AND THEY HAVE MONEY OR THEY HAVE A VEHICLE, ARE WE GOING TO PUT IN FOR A CONFISCATION? THE ANSWER IS YES. WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO PUT IN FOR CONFISCATION.

WHETHER THAT VEHICLE GETS CONFISCATED OR NOT, IT'S BEYOND OUR STRETCH OF SCOPE THAT GOES TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

LEGAL THEN TAKES OVER AND THEY'LL DETERMINE THE FACTS OF THE CASE AND THEN SEE IF IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THEM TO FIGHT THE CASE WITH WITH THE SUSPECT'S ATTORNEY TO SEIZE THE VEHICLE. LITTLE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SECURED IN SUCH THAT MANNER.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF OVER HALF $1 MILLION IN LITTLE FUNDS ALREADY THAT THE CITY HAS.

WE HAVE ANOTHER PORTION OF LITTLE FUNDS FOR WHICH ARE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT'S MAINTAINED BY BROWARD COUNTY.

AND WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY IS LPRS ON FOR BSO PORTION OF IT UTILIZING LITTLE FUNDS.

THE AND THOSE ARE FIXED CAMERAS.

THOSE ARE FIXED CAMERAS. AND THOSE ARE THE MOBILE TRAILERS.

THE PARKS PORTION OF IT IS NOT COMING OUT OF LITTLE FUNDS.

IT'S COMING OUT OF THE DIFFERENT FUNDING BANK.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT DIRECTOR TWIGGER IS, IS TALKING ABOUT.

SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THAT THAT WOULD COME OUT OF LITTLE FUNDS.

GOOD. OKAY.

SEEING. I'M GLAD FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

I FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT.

AND THE 30,000? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY.

THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE SECURITY MASTER PLAN FUNDING FOR RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN FUTURE YEARS.

SHOULD WE DECIDE TO CONTINUE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN OPERATING EXPENSE AT THAT POINT, BARRING US GETTING SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCE.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE THE PILOT PROJECT SMALL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL OKAY WITH HOW IT WORKS OUT FIRST BEFORE WE ADD ADDITIONAL COSTS.

GOTCHA. WELL, OKAY.

THANK. I'M JUST MAKING SURE.

AND YOU SAID THE CHECKPOINTS WAS BASICALLY BECAUSE I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT, OR BASICALLY YOU CHOSE THOSE CHECKPOINTS BECAUSE IT'S THE PERIMETER OF THE CITY.

CORRECT. CHOKE POINTS IS WHAT THE TERMINOLOGY WAS.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT 57TH STREET, PARALLELS COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, AND PEOPLE CAN AVOID CERTAIN LOCATIONS BY CUTTING ACROSS BUSINESSES, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO WHERE THE SOUTHERN BORDER, THE SOUTHERN AREAS OF NORTH, THE COMMERCIAL, YOU SEE THAT LINE OF KIND OF DOTS THAT'S PARALLELING THE CANAL THAT'S THERE, AND THE ROADS THAT GO NORTH SOUTH THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE WESTERN PART OF TAMARAC HAVE TO CROSS A CANAL.

THEREFORE, THESE MULTIPLE BRIDGES, THERE ARE SMALLER AREAS THAT WE'D BE USING IN PHASE TWO THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN LESS ONLY TWO CAMERAS PER LOCATION, POSSIBLY SMALLER MANY IF WE GOT TO THAT POINT AND THOSE, THAT'S WHERE THE CHOKE POINTS THE NORTH SOUTH AREA ONLY HAS THREE.

I'M GOING TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND INTERRUPT HERE.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

IN MY OPINION, THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO ASK.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SECURITY IN THE CITY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CERTAIN SAFETY PRECAUTIONS AND THINGS THAT WE DO, WE NORMALLY HAVE THIS PART IN A SHADE SESSION.

SO WE'RE NOT ANNOUNCING TO THE PUBLIC WHERE WE'RE DOING CERTAIN THINGS SO THEY KNOW WHERE THEY CAN AVOID.

SO I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN POSTING THIS AND THIS IS PUBLIC, AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING INTO SUCH DETAIL ON CERTAIN THINGS, WHEN THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF SOME OF THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR SECURITY AND PROTECTION, AND WE'RE GIVING A BLUEPRINT OUT RIGHT NOW OF WHERE YOU CAN GO TO AVOID BEING DETECTED.

SHOULD WE BE HAVING PART OF THE LOCATION DISCUSSION IN A PROPER SHADE SESSION FOR THE SECURITY OF OUR CITY? ANYONE CAN TAKE IT. WHO HAS THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION? MAYOR. BASED ON.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW.

THIS IS NOT PENDING LITIGATION INVOLVING POTENTIAL SETTLEMENT SUCCESSION.

IT'S ONLY NOT PERMITTED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

ATTORNEY IS SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT A PENDING LITIGATION OR ANY KIND OF SUCH WHICH SHOULD BE IN THE SHADE.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT OUR SECURITY PLAN FOR THE BUILDING, WHEN WE WERE HAVING ISSUES FOR SECURITY HERE, THEY WERE ALL IN THE SHADE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS OF THE CITY TO NOT HAVE OUR SECURITY PLAN LAID OUT. SO BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD TO SHADE SESSIONS, A LITTLE MORE BROAD THAN WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED, AND WE'RE NOT UTILIZING IT.

SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM CONTINUING OUR CONVERSATION FOR THE DESIRE OF IT.

BUT I HAVE VERY MUCH CONCERNS OF CONTINUING THE NUANCES OF LOCATION AND HOW CERTAIN THINGS WORK.

IN FACT, MAYOR, I HAVE DEALT WITH THESE TYPE OF CAMERAS.

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AND IN FACT, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW TO AVOID COMPLAINTS BY RESIDENTS.

CAN YOU SPEAK UP, PLEASE? OKAY. TO AVOID.

I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT COMMISSIONER DANIEL BROUGHT UP WAS PRIVACY ISSUES, WHICH GENERALLY COMES WITH THESE KIND OF INSTALLATION.

AND MOST DURING THAT PERIOD I BELIEVE, BASED ON MY RECOLLECTION, RESIDENTS WAS GIVEN NOTICE THAT THESE CAMERAS WOULD BE INSTALLED AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE CITY.

SO THERE WAS DISCLOSURE WITH RESPECT TO TO THE LOCATION TO AVOID SOME PRIVACY CONCERN.

BUT WITH RESPECT TO THESE CAMERAS, YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT AN UNKNOWN SECRET.

SOME CITIES HAVE THEM AND THEY DISCLOSE THEM.

YOU KNOW I HAVE NOT, FROM MY EXPERIENCE DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE AS A SHADE SESSION ISSUE THAT.

OKAY, WELL, I WAS MORE LOOKING FOR THE LEGAL ANSWER OF WHAT CAN GO INTO A SHADE SESSION AND DOES THESE SPECIFIC DETAILS, SOME MORE NUANCED DETAILS THAT ARE STARTING TO BE DISCUSSED BELONG IN THE SHADE SESSION.

THERE IS NO DOUBT IN THE PUBLIC WE TALK ABOUT WANTING THEM, COSTS OF THEM, THEIR GOOD PURPOSE, THEIR POTENTIAL.

NOT GOOD PURPOSE, RIGHT? NOT EVERYBODY SUPPORTS IT AND LOCATION, BUT NOT A SHADE ISSUE.

LOCATION OF THESE CAMERAS.

CITY MANAGER.

I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE, MAYOR, THAT OUR FACILITY AND EMPLOYEE BASED SECURITY HAS BEEN DEALT WITH UNDER THE SHADE SESSION IN THE PAST, BUT BUT YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE WE ALSO WANT THIS TO BE A DETERRENT FOR, FOR PASSERSBY OR OTHERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO THESE CAMERAS AND LIKE WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WITH THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, THESE LOCATIONS ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE LOCATIONS WERE PUBLICIZED OR PUBLIC INFORMATION.

AND SO I THINK IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ARE ALSO KNOWN OR PUBLIC INFORMATION, AS WELL AS A DETERRENT.

AGAIN, PART YES, PART NO, IN MY OPINION.

AND RESPECTFULLY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SOME OF THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS CAUSED ISSUES IN SOME OF THE SIDE STREETS IS BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS WERE, AND THEY WENT WHERE THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS WEREN'T.

SO THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR SPEEDING AND THEIR ISSUES.

SO THAT'S MY CONCERN IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME NITTY GRITTY OF WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.

AND IT WILL.

LET THOSE VERY SMART CRIMINALS BECAUSE THEY ARE SMART.

SIDESTEP. WHERE THEY COULD BE ANYWAY.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN. IF THE COMMUNITY, IF THE LEGAL IS SAYING THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTED BY A SHADE SESSION FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS OF OUR CITY, THEN OBVIOUSLY SPILL IT ALL OUT AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW AND CRIMINALS, JUST WATCH THIS MEETING.

COMMISSIONER DANIELS LAWYER.

WELL, I LIKE TO KNOW, AND I'M SURE MY RESIDENTS LIKE TO KNOW BECAUSE WE WANT TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE BEING WATCHED.

I WAS TOLD LAST WEEK I'M SCARED OF MY OWN SHADOW, AND THAT'S OKAY.

I LIKE TO KNOW, AND I THINK IT WILL BE A DETERRENT BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK UP AND SEE WHERE THE CAMERAS ARE.

TO ME, I LOOK UP, I SEE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE.

SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PRIVACY ANYMORE, BUT I'M STILL TRYING TO KEEP SOME PRIVACY.

AVAILABLE. SO YOU SAID YOU DID IT BECAUSE OF THE PERIMETERS.

OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I'M SURE YOU KNOW BEST WHERE TO PUT IT.

I'M GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON. CAPTAIN COOPER, FROM A BSO PERSPECTIVE.

WHY DID WE CHOOSE FLOCK VERSUS THE OTHER VENDORS? SO, COMMISSIONER, WE ACTUALLY CHOSE VIGILANT.

VIGILANT FOR OUR FOR OUR GOALS AND DESIRES FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM.

WE CHOOSE FLOCK OR VIGILANT.

YES. SO TWO THINGS.

SO ONE, OURS IS NOT A PILOT.

IF YOU IF THE COMMISSION AGREES TO THIS, IT'S A IT'S A PURCHASE.

SO WE'VE ALREADY JUST WORKING WITH LPR CAMERAS IN THE PAST THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE HAVE THE SUCCESS OF IT.

SO WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT US.

IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE CITY IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT OUR INVESTIGATIONS.

AND SO ALSO MAJORITY, IF NOT MANY BSO JURISDICTIONS ALREADY WORK WITH THE VENDOR, WHICH IS VIGILANT.

SO THAT'S THE BEST OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE BECAUSE THEY PRIMARILY THEY THEY WORK WITH OUR LPR.

I'M SORRY, WITH OUR REAL TIME CRIME CENTER DOWNTOWN.

AND SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WENT WITH VIGILANT AS OPPOSED TO FLOCK.

ONE ADDITIONAL IS THAT FLOCK USES A LEASE TERMS THEY YOU CAN'T PURCHASE FLOCK CAMERAS.

SO FOR LITTLE FUNDS WE CANNOT LEASE.

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WE HAVE TO MAKE A PURCHASE. SO THAT'S THE THE MAIN REASON WHY WE CHOSE VIGILANT AS OPPOSED TO FLOCK.

OKAY. SO THIS PROGRAM THAT'S COMING TO TAMARAC, WE'RE USING VIGILANT.

YES FOR BSO.

OKAY. I THINK I HEARD FLOCK SOMEWHERE FROM YOU.

FOR THE BSO SIDE, WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTRYWAYS EXIT WAYS INTO AND OUT OF TAMARAC.

THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE USING IS BASICALLY ONE TIME FUNDS.

THE ETF FUNDS THAT HE ALLUDED TO, THEY CAN ONLY BE PURCHASED.

WE CAN'T USE THAT TO LEASE CAMERAS.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON THAT GO INTO ONE SOLUTION VERSUS THE OTHER.

WHICH ONE'S THE BETTER SOLUTION FOR THAT NEED? IN THE CASE OF THE CITY PARKS AND FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE LARGE IT'S EXPENSIVE.

WE WERE TO BUY THEM OUTRIGHT AND HAVE THEM INSTALLED.

LIKE WITH THE VIGILANCE SYSTEM.

IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN, I THINK, 15 TO $25,000, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION, RIGHT, GIVE OR TAKE THE VERSUS LEASING THEM WHERE IT'S $3,000 A YEAR.

THE BREAK EVEN IS GIVE OR TAKE AROUND 5 TO 6 YEARS, WHICH IS THE EXPECTED LIFETIME OF A CAMERA.

SO ON THE PARK SIDE OF IT THERE, I WANT TO SAY THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER MORE TECHNICAL DETAILS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WITH SEARCH CAPABILITIES AND THAT THAT ARE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO THAT FOR THIS SITUATION, IT SORT OF MAKES IT, IN MY OPINION, A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A PARK.

IT MADE MORE SENSE TO DO A LEASE IN THIS MODEL OF IT AND PAY LIKE A SMALLER ONE TIME AMOUNT FOR THE PILOT PROJECT.

MAKE SURE WE'RE OKAY WITH IT VERSUS PUTTING A LARGER OUTLAY RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

SO SO FROM FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU'RE USING FLOCK ON FOR THE CITY PARKS AND FACILITIES.

WE'RE GOING TO BE USING FLOCK FOR THOSE AREAS, OKAY.

AND WE'RE USING FLOCK BECAUSE FLOCK GIVES US THE CAPABILITY TO LEASE THE THE EQUIPMENT AT THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE MENTIONING.

THEY ALL THOSE LOCATIONS DO NOT HAVE FIBER CABLE OR POWER ALREADY THERE.

LIKE WITH THEIRS, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO INSTALL FIBER POWER OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, WHICH IS A LOT MORE MONEY, BUT WE COULD DO THAT OUT OF THE LETF FUNDS.

BUT OVER HERE IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE MONEY UP FRONT.

I'M SORRY. FOR? FOR THE FLOCK. WHERE WAS I GOING WITH THIS? IT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT SIMPLER.

AND IT'S JUST A LOT LESS MONEY UP FRONT.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE BREAK EVEN POINT BEING AROUND 5 TO 6 YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT OUT THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY OFF THE GET GO.

OKAY. AND WHY DID WE CHOOSE FLOCK VERSUS WRECKER OR NDR ES OR GENETIC? GENETIC. LIEUTENANT, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT, I WILL SAY, FROM MY SIDE OF IT, WE WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH BSO.

SO LIEUTENANT, THE CAPTAIN AND I AND A FEW OTHERS, WE WENT AND VISITED DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AROUND THE COUNTY TO SORT OF WEIGH THE DIFFERENT ADVANTAGES DISADVANTAGES TO THE SYSTEMS. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE USE A GENETEC SECURITY SYSTEM HERE.

THAT'S NOT A SECRET. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR CAMERA SYSTEM, IT DOESN'T.

IT'S LIKE A SANDBOX THAT'S ISOLATED, DOESN'T PLAY WELL.

THE DATA IS NOT AVAILABLE TO ANYONE.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO DATA FROM OTHER PLACES VERSUS WITH FLOCK AND VIGILANT YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY THEY HAVE ACCESS TO DATA FROM ANYWHERE AROUND THE STATE OF THE COUNTRY THAT USES THESE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT VIGILANT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, LIEUTENANT VIGILANT WORKS BETTER WITH.

FASTER VEHICLES, FASTER SPEEDS VERSUS FLOCK.

IT'S NOT I WON'T SAY IT'S NOT JUST AS AS GOOD WITH THE FAST, THE FAST TRAFFIC VERSUS THE PARK.

THERE'S GOING TO BE SLOWER TRAFFIC.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SEARCH CAPABILITIES, FOR EXAMPLE FLOCK AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES TOO, AND THEY JUST WEREN'T.

I DON'T HAVE TO SAY THEY WEREN'T AT THE SAME LEVEL, THE SAME QUALITY OF SOLUTION AS THE FLOCK AND VIGILANT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT FLOCK, THOUGH, WE CAN SEARCH ON COLORS.

I MEAN, THEY BOTH SEARCH COLORS, BUMPER STICKERS, SOME OTHER IDENTIFIERS THAT ARE GOOD FOR A PARK SITUATION.

MR. COMMISSIONER. IF I CAN CLARIFY, PLEASE.

THESE ARE THE PRIMARY SYSTEMS THAT THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE, BUT THE MAJORITY OF CITIES HAVE ACROSS.

OF ALL, I CAN TELL YOU, MOST OF THE ONES THAT HAVE VIGILANT OR AT LEAST TESTING SOME FLOCK AS WELL.

THE FLOCK CITIES, YOU KNOW, CORAL SPRINGS WAS EXCLUSIVELY VIGILANT UNTIL RECENTLY.

YOU KNOW, THEY ALL HAVE STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.

THE VIGILANT CAMERAS TEND TO DO BETTER WITH NIGHT VISION, ARE PROVEN AT HIGHER SPEED.

AREAS FLOCK TO ITS CREDIT IS A COMPANY THAT'S NOT LOOKING TO BE PURCHASED, SO IT'S TRYING TO ESTABLISH ITS CREDIBILITY AND EXTEND ITS CREDIBILITY.

SO IT HAS SOME REALLY ATTRACTIVE I HONESTLY WISH I COULD CROSS POLLINATE THE SOFTWARE AND APPLY IT BOTH WAYS.

RECORDS DONE REALLY WELL FOR THE CITY OF LAUDERHILL, FOR EXAMPLE, AND PLANTATION JUST SIGNED UP WITH THEM.

SO IT'S WEIGHING A NUMBER OF FACTORS, AGAIN, EACH WITH STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.

IN TERMS OF BSO, WITH THE VIGILANT PROPOSAL, IT'S THE QUALITY OF THE HARDWARE COMBINED WITH THE FAMILIARITY OF THE AGENCY AND THE FACT THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, MAJORITY OF OUR OUR AGENCY IS VIGILANT.

THE COST IS IS A SOLID COST AS WELL.

I KNOW WITH FLOCK, THE $3,000 INCLUDES ALL THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AS WELL WITH THE VIGILANT.

WHEN YOU PURCHASE IT, THERE'S THE EXTENDED WARRANTY, BUT THERE STILL CAN BE SERVICE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DAMAGE.

AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT YOU GET WITH VIGILANT IS ALSO THAT YOU CAN GET BEYOND YEAR FIVE.

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IT'S ONE YEAR TO YEAR, AND IF YOU TAKE IT OUT, IT'S GONE OKAY.

SO IRRESPECTIVE OF THE VENDORS THAT WE USE LET'S SAY A CAR IS MOVING FROM POMPANO BEACH INTO CORAL SPRINGS, INTO TAMARAC, INTO LAUDERHILL, TO LIGHTHOUSE POINT, INTO DANIA BEACH.

I'M ALL THE VENDORS COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER.

ALL THE CAMERAS COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER REGARDLESS OF WHO THE VENDOR IS.

NO, SIR. THAT'S WHERE THE BSO, REAL TIME CRIME CENTER AND A FUTURE PROPOSAL, HOPEFULLY FOR A TAMARAC REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, WILL COME INTO PLAY IN THE ABILITY TO ACCESS EACH OF THOSE DATABASES. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH YOUR WITH WHAT YOU'VE SUGGESTED, BSO REAL TIME CRIME CENTER DETECTIVES WOULD BE SEARCHING THE DIFFERENT DATABASES TO SAY, HEY, THAT VEHICLE JUST LEFT WESTBOUND AT A DEERFIELD.

DID IT GO INTO CORAL SPRINGS? OKAY. YES, IT WENT INTO CORAL SPRINGS BECAUSE WE CHECKED THE FLOCK SYSTEM WHERE THAT VEHICLE POP UP NEXT.

OH, IT POPPED UP IN RECOURSE SYSTEM AGAIN.

THIS IS IF WE'RE IF WE'RE RESEARCHING AFTER THE FACT, IF IT'S ALERTING, IF IT'S A FELONY VEHICLE OR MISSING PERSON AND IT'S ALERTING THERE, SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL PUT ON THE RADIO, OKAY. A VEHICLE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION.

THE DEPUTIES WOULD BE CIRCULATING IN THAT AREA TRYING TO LOCATE IT IF THEY COULDN'T FIND IT.

AND NOW IT POPPED UP IN CORAL SPRINGS AND ALERTED ON THEIR SYSTEM.

NOW PEOPLE WOULD BE AWARE IT WAS OVER THERE.

SO IT DOESN'T ALL CROSS POLLINATE THE INFORMATION.

I KNOW IF FDLE DID LOOK INTO THAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE ISSUES THAT THESE COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP.

SO IT DOESN'T COMMUNICATE IN REAL TIME.

BUT AFTER THE FACT, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE OTHER SYSTEMS TO SEE IF IT IF THOSE OTHER SYSTEMS PICKED UP, IF WE HAVE AN IF WE HAVE AN ACCOUNT.

SO BSO DEPUTIES HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH VIGILANT AND FLOCK DATABASES AND GENETEC THROUGH POMPANO, EVEN THROUGH THE OTHER SYSTEM THAT LAURA BY THE SEA USES.

AND THEN I THINK DOWNTOWN REAL TIME CRIME CENTER ALSO HAS ACCESS TO THE RECOURSE SYSTEM.

WOULD IT SERVE A BETTER PUBLIC PURPOSE IF THEN ALL THE CITIES HAD VIGILANT THAT WE ARE SO USES? WELL, AS DIRECTOR TAYLOR SUGGESTED, THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO THE SOFTWARE USE BY SOME OF THE OTHER OTHER SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, ONE IDENTIFIES COLOR OF A VEHICLE BASED UPON ITS VIN, NOT WHAT IT'S VISUALLY SEEING.

THE OTHER IDENTIFIES WHAT IT'S VISUALLY SEEING.

SO ITS STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES WOULD IT BE BENEFIT? THERE'D BE CONSISTENCY.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT YOU'D ALSO IF EVERYBODY WASN'T VIGILANT, WE'D LOSE SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE OTHER SYSTEMS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

AND AGAIN, THE INDIVIDUALITY OF THOSE CITIES, THE LEAST OPPORTUNITIES OF THOSE CITIES ARE WILLING TO GO WITH IF VIGILANT UPGRADED ITS SOFTWARE? PERHAPS. OKAY.

HOW WILL THESE DEVICES BE INSTALLED ON OUR PROPERTIES? JIM. WILL IT BE ON ITS OWN INFRASTRUCTURE, OR WILL WE MOUNT IT ON SOMETHING? IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION.

COMMISSIONER. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MANY DETAILS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC SERVICES COMPLEX, THERE ARE CITY OWNED LIGHT POLES AROUND THE FACILITIES.

SO PLACES WHERE WE HAVE.

POLES OR LIGHT POLES IN THE RIGHT PLACE WILL LEVERAGE THOSE.

AND THAT INSTALLATION COST $150 VERSUS THEM INSTALLING THEIR OWN BLACK POLE.

IN CERTAIN PLACES, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, AROUND THE SPORTS COMPLEX NEAR SOME OF THE GATES, THERE WILL BE A BLACK POLE WITH THE CAMERA AND THEN A SOLAR PANEL ON TOP OF IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT HELPS, BUT IF YOU DRIVE LIKE FOR ME, I KNOW I GET OFF AT ATLANTIC FROM THE SAWGRASS THERE IS A FLOCK LPR THE LICENSE PLATE READER RIGHT OFF THE EXIT FROM ATLANTIC GOING EAST.

FROM THE SAWGRASS.

IT'S PROBABLY WITHIN, WHAT, A FEW HUNDRED YARDS OF THE OF THE HIGHWAY.

I KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES ALREADY HAVE CAMERAS AT THE ENTRANCE EXITS OF THE COMMUNITIES.

ARE THOSE CAMERAS? THESE CAMERAS AS WELL, OR ARE THOSE JUST PRIVATE CAMERAS? SO I'M NOT 100% SURE WHAT THE COMMUNITIES HAVE.

I HAVE HEARD THAT SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE CAMERA SYSTEMS, BUT THOSE CAMERA SYSTEMS DO NOT READ TAGS AND PURPOSES FOR INVESTIGATIVE USES.

IT READ TAGS AND PURPOSES OF THE RESIDENTS OBTAINING ACCESS INTO THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT NETWORKING WITH OUR DOWNTOWN REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.

AND I'M NOT 100% SURE IF THAT THE CAMERAS IN THE COMMUNITIES HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO NETWORK WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE HAVE TO SPEAK TO THOSE COMMUNITIES.

AND IF THEY'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE WITH THIS PROGRAM, WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THEM INFORMATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LPR SYSTEMS AND WHO THE WHAT BETTER COMPANY.

OR THEY CAN SELECT WHAT COMPANY THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE AND GO WITH.

BUT I'M NOT 100% SURE THAT THE CAMERAS THAT ARE ALREADY INSTALLED IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES IS IS AN LPR SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS AND LICENSE PLATE READERS.

A LOT OF CITY OR NEIGHBORHOODS DEVELOPMENTS HAVE LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS THAT TAKE A PICTURE OF EVERY TAG AND THEN HAVE TO THEREAFTER BE MINED TO SEE, HEY, WHAT CAR MAY HAVE

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FELONY VEHICLE, WANTED PERSON, MISSING PERSON.

SO WHEN THAT VEHICLE PASSES THAT THERE'S AN ACTIVATION AND AN ALERT SENT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT LETTING YOU KNOW THE VEHICLE IS THERE IN REAL TIME VERSUS THE LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS AFTER THE FACT.

THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC THAT DO CURRENTLY HAVE FLOCK AT THEIR BUSINESS OR AT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS A SMALL NUMBER THAT I KNOW OF.

I'VE SEEN THEM AT LOWE'S RECENTLY TO MY PRIVATE FLOCK, CONTRACTS WITH PRIVATE BUSINESSES AND HOA'S, AND GIVEN THEIR LOW COST, IS A LITTLE MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD TO OFFSET HOA TO OFFSET THAT MONEY ON THE FRONT END VERSUS MAKING A LARGER PURCHASE AND INVESTMENT OF, YOU KNOW, 25 TO $30,000 FOR A PURCHASE.

SO A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE MODEL FOR HOA, SO TO SPEAK.

OKAY. THE FIRST EXAMPLE OF, OF OF SUCH INTEGRATED INSTALLATION, I THINK IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE WOODLANDS DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND IT REQUIRES THEM TO CONNECT THEM TO THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.

OKAY. ARE THERE ANY INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE DESTROY THE DEVICES BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS? I DON'T KNOW OF ANY. NO, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A CRIME IN AND OF ITSELF.

IT'D BE CRIMINAL MISCHIEF IF IT DID OCCUR, YOU KNOW, IF THE VEHICLE IS INCIDENTALLY INJURED, DAMAGED IN A CRASH THAT WOULD FALL UNDER THE INSURANCE CLAIMS TO REPAIR AND PLACE THAT IN TERMS OF AN INTENTIONAL ACT THAT WOULD BE A CRIME AS FAR AS REACHING THEM THERE AMOUNTED ABOUT 12FT IN THE AIR, RIGHT.

THEY'RE MOUNTED. THEY'RE NOT REACHABLE.

SO THE ONES THAT WERE GOING TO INSTALL IN CITY PROPERTY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE FAR IN THERE AS WELL AS WELL.

I BELIEVE IT'S AROUND, GIVE OR TAKE, AROUND 12 FOOT IN THE AIR.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WALK UP AND REACH IT.

OKAY. HAVE WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES TO FIND OUT IF ANY OF THESE DEVICES WERE DESTROYED BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE OR THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS BEING EVASIVE, SO THEY DESTROYED IT.

HAVEN'T ASKED THAT QUESTION QUITE HONESTLY, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY ASK.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

VICE MAYOR, RIGHT? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES, FOR ASKING GREAT QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO ASK A LITTLE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS BECAUSE MY COLLEAGUES ASKED SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF THEM THAT I HAD ALREADY.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO COMMEND BSO FOR WANTING TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT WAS LATE LAST YEAR.

WE HAVE A SLEW OF CRIMES THAT WERE COMMITTED THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY PEOPLE FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING TO TRY TO COMBAT PEOPLE TRANSITIONING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITIES.

I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR FOR BEING A GOOD STEWARD WITH TAXPAYERS MONEY, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT AN ARTICLE FROM OUR SISTER CITY IN ALPHARETTA WHERE WE WENT TO VISIT, WHERE IT SAID THAT INITIALLY THEY WERE GOING TO CHOOSE GENTECH, BUT THEY EVENTUALLY WENT WITH FLOC BECAUSE IT HAD A SIGNIFICANT FOOTPRINT IN THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT WAS A THIRD OF GENTEX COSTS. SO IN YOUR EXPLANATION OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE IT'S A CLOUD BASED SOFTWARE, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER WHEN ALPHARETTA FLOCK IS 7500 A MONTH, COMPARED TO GENTECH WAS CHARGING 35,000 A MONTH.

SO OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS DID A LOT OF RESEARCH.

AND YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE SOLUTIONS THAT YOU'RE USING AND YOU'RE ALSO TAKING INTO MIND TAXPAYERS MONEY.

SO I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.

GOING INTO THE NUANCES OF DATA LOOKING AT AN ARTICLE FROM CORAL GABLES, THEY HAVE THE VIGILANT SOLUTION AS WELL.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT IS HOW LONG THE DATA IS BEING STORED.

SO WITH VIGILANT, THEY STORED A DATA FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN FLOCK IN MIAMI BEACH.

THEY STORE IT FOR ONE YEAR.

SO ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH PRIVACY IS STORING PEOPLE'S INFORMATION.

ALSO THESE ARE PRIVATE VENDORS.

THESE ARE COMPANIES THAT WERE VIGILANT WAS ACQUIRED BY MOTOROLA RECENTLY.

AND FLOCK HAD LIKE $400 MILLION INVESTMENT FROM SILICON VALLEY.

SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO FIND WAYS TO MONETIZE PEOPLE'S DATA.

YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN THIS WORLD WHERE ADVERTISING KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT US.

SOMETIMES IT READS OUR MINDS.

SO ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WOULD HAVE IS COLLECTING OUR RESIDENTS INFORMATION.

AND THESE PRIVATE COMPANIES, WHAT CAN WE DO IN TERMS OF THEM NOT SELLING THE INFORMATION? WELL, WE OWN THE DATA.

IT'S NOT OWNED BY VIGILANT.

IT IS OWNED BY BSO AND SHARED STORED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.

I BELIEVE CITY OF MIAMI.

IN THAT REGARD, IT'S ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY ITS CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION.

SO TO GET ACCESS TO IT, YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED AND VETTED SO IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE JUST TO CORPORATIONS.

THE ONLY THING THAT THE TOW COMPANIES CONTRACT IN ORDER TO USE THE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO GET THEIR READS FOR THEIR TAGS LOOKING, THEY CAN ENTER THE TAGS THEY'RE SEEKING FOR

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BUT THEY DON'T HAVE UNFETTERED ACCESS.

THE. LONGEVITY OF THE EVIDENCE, AS I WOULD REFER TO IT AS IS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IN CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT A VEHICLE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A MURDER FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, FOR EXAMPLE, AND YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO LOSE ACCESSIBLE DATA JUST BECAUSE OF AN ARBITRARY TIMELINE.

AND FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES AND PUBLIC PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, WE MUST STORE DATA FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

ACTUALLY, IT'S REQUIRED OF US WHEN IT COMES TO RECORDS AND VIDEO AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THIS IS NOT SO OLD.

THIS IS NOT DATA THAT'S, YOU KNOW, READILY ACCESSIBLE TO, TO COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.

IT IS KEPT AS LAW ENFORCEMENT, CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION AND IS TREATED AS SECURED INFORMATION.

UNDERSTOOD. BUT I'M READING THIS, THIS ARTICLE AT CORAL GABLES, WHERE RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY SUING THE CITY AND MAYBE CITY MANAGER.

YOU CAN YOU CAN JUMP IN BECAUSE THEY'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION AND VIGILANT STORES IT FOR THREE YEARS, WHEREAS IN MIAMI THEY STORE IT FOR ONE YEAR.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF WHAT YOU NEED AS A WORKFLOW.

LIKE I SAID, TO FIGHT THE CRIME AND THESE PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.

MY ONLY ISSUE IS THE DATA IN COLLECTING PEOPLE'S INFORMATION AND DOING THAT TYPE OF STUFF, BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE CAN BE USED FOR NEFARIOUS THINGS.

IT CAN BE USED FOR POLITICALLY PEOPLE.

PEOPLE CAN ACCESS PEOPLE'S INFORMATION.

NOT SAYING THAT BSO IS GOING TO GOING TO DO THAT.

I WISH IT WAS BSO ALONE HANDLING THIS.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A PRIVATE COMPANY, THERE CAN BE PEOPLE WITHIN THAT COMPANY WHO CAN SHARE INFORMATION THAT BSO DOESN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.

SO THAT'S ONLY THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IN TERMS OF THE DATA.

BECAUSE I'M SEEING ARTICLES WITH THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES COMPLAINING ABOUT THESE TYPE OF THINGS, AND THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT RESIDENTS MIGHT HAVE, AND THOSE ARE THE PROTECTIONS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IN PLACE FROM A CITY GETTING THE LAWSUITS OR RESIDENTS FEELING THAT BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING THEM.

YOU KNOW SECURITY IS IMPORTANT TO US.

AND THAT'S A BALANCE THAT THAT WE HAVE AS ELECTED OFFICIAL BALANCING PRIVACY AND PROTECTION.

IN THIS CASE, I'M IN FAVOR OF PROTECTION.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M IN I'M IN SUPPORT OF OF YOU GUYS DOING THIS.

AND THOSE ARE ONLY MY CONCERNS IN TERMS OF THE NUANCES OF THE CONTRACT.

LIKE IF WE CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF HOW LONG THE DATA IS STORED, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STORING THE INFORMATION AND VIGILANCE OR OWNER INFORMATION? AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT I SAW POMPANO BSO, AM I CORRECT? YES, SIR. BUT FOR SOME REASON POMPANO WITH GENTECH.

IF YOU BRING BACK UP THE SLIDE I SEE THAT POMPANO.

YES, SIR. THEY HAVE A LONG.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST LPR SYSTEMS. BSO HAD A CITY OF POMPANO.

THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAD WITH A COMPANY CALLED MILLER ELECTRIC WAS THEIR VENDOR FOR THE LONGEST LONG PERIOD OF TIME, I BELIEVE.

STILL MAY BE, BUT I WILL POINT OUT POMPANO ALSO HAS VIGILANT SOLUTIONS TECHNOLOGY AS WELL, AND IS ALSO TESTING FLOC AS WELL, BECAUSE AGAIN, ALL THESE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS HAVE DIFFERENT PROS AND CONS TO THEM.

AND AS DIRECTOR TRAGER MENTIONED, SOME OF THE SOFTWARE FOR FLOC IS AMONG THE TOP THAT'S OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT BEHOOVES PEOPLE TO TRY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SYSTEMS TO SEE WHICH WORKS BEST FOR THEM AND WHICH THEY GET THE GREATEST EFFICACY OUT OF IN ADDITION TO THE ECONOMY. YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE DATA AND INFORMATION, IT ONLY LETS US KNOW THAT THAT LICENSE PLATE WAS THERE.

WHETHER IT'S ATTACHED TO THE PROPER VEHICLE IS A SECONDARY INVESTIGATION.

WHETHER THE PERSON WHO REGISTERED THE VEHICLE IS DRIVING IT IS UNKNOWN WHERE THAT PERSON WENT, IS UNKNOWN WHETHER THEY WENT TO CHURCH, PUBLIX SCHOOL, OTHER PLACES, WHETHER THEY'RE COMMITTING CRIME.

AGAIN, IT'S JUST A SINGLE BREADCRUMB THAT MUST BE FURTHER INVESTIGATED TO LINK IT TO A CRIME.

IF IT'S NOT IN THE SYSTEM AS MISSING STOLEN OR WANTED.

AND I TOTALLY GET THAT FROM FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS TECHNOLOGY AND THE BACK END AND HOW YOU SEE IT AND HOW DATA IS PUT TOGETHER.

AND AND IN THE BUSINESS WORLD, IF IT'S A PRIVATE COMPANY AND PEOPLE ARE INVESTING IN PRIVATE COMPANY, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS, OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL WANT TO FIND WAYS TO MONETIZE THE INFORMATION. AND WITH TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES, FACEBOOK MAKES THEIR MONEY USING OUR DATA.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR FACEBOOK.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

I UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IT'S A GREAT, GREAT BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS JUST, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO ALONG ASKING THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE'S DATA, THAT THESE COMPANIES DON'T SELL THAT BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE GOING DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE'S PRIVATE INFORMATION WITH THE COMPANIES, AS I SAID, IT WAS ONLY YOU FIND GENTLEMEN AT BSO LOOKING AT THE DATA, I WOULDN'T WORRY BECAUSE YOU WILL FIND PEOPLE. BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TECH COMPANIES WHO HAVE MULTI-BILLIONAIRES WHO ARE INVESTING IN THEM AND COLLECTING PEOPLE'S INFORMATION AND HAVE ACCESS TO IT, THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I HAVE A CONCERN WITH.

AND I THINK WITH THESE COMPANIES, WE SHOULD FIND OUT IN TERMS OF THE DATA AND WHERE'S THE DATA STORED.

AND I READ THAT FLOCK IS CLOUD BASED, SO IT'S OUT THERE IN THE CLOUD.

BUT WHERE IS THE IT'S IN THE US.

I KNOW IT'S STILL IN THE US BUT IS IT STILL IN SERVERS IN TAMARAC OR IS IT STORED ON SERVERS IN THE COUNTRY?

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I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS AMAZON OR MICROSOFT, BUT WE DID ASK THE QUESTION AND IT'S STORED ON US SERVERS.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THE EXACT LOCATION IF IT WAS VIRGINIA OR SOME OTHER CITY.

YEAH. AND SO? SO IT'S IN THE CLOUD.

SO GOD FORBID, GOD FORBID, IF SOMETHING GETS HACKED, CAN PEOPLE ACCESS THE RESIDENTS DATA? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A.

I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY BIG QUESTION, BECAUSE IF SOMETHING GETS HACKED, I MEAN, IF SOMETHING'S HACKED, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE STORING DATA, THOUGH, THEY'RE ALSO SUBJECT TO SACHSE REQUIREMENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS TO DO THEIR BEST AND THEN SOME TO PROTECT IT.

OKAY. OKAY.

MY OTHER QUESTION WAS WITH IN TERMS OF SHARING INFORMATION WITH WITH WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT I AM IN SUPPORT OF LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, I THINK, WAS 2019, THE STATE PASSED A LAW, SB 168, THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FLORIDA TO HAVE SANCTUARY CITIES.

BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE A COMMUNITY THAT HAVE A LOT OF IMMIGRANTS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW WITH VIGILANCE IS THAT THEY WERE SHARING INFORMATION WITH ICE IN TERMS OF SHARING INFORMATION OF PEOPLE WHO WERE ILLEGALLY IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND AGAIN, LET ME BE CLEAR, I'M IN FAVOR OF LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

WE JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE WANT EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN TRUST LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER THEY'RE LEGAL OR NOT LEGAL, AND WE DON'T WANT TO ERODE THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WE KNOW WE HAVE A LARGE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY HERE AND ITS SISTER CITIES.

SO IN TERMS OF THE CAMERA SHARING INFORMATION, ARE WE GOING TO BSO, GOING TO SHARE INFORMATION WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? SO. NO. SO OUR OUR PURPOSE AND INTENT IS TO CATCH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

RIGHT. OBVIOUSLY TO TO TO GIVE IT TO LOCATE MISSING PERSONS.

THAT'S PART ONE. PART TWO IS TO CATCH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

SO AGAIN, IT'S BEEN STATED MULTIPLE TIMES HERE.

AND I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BEAT A DEAD HORSE.

BUT IF A VEHICLE DRIVES BY AND THAT TAG IS ALREADY ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM, OR WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENTER A TAG INTO THE SYSTEM, IF IT'S IF IT'S OBTAINED AND WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT BY BEING USED IN A CRIME, THAT'S OUR INTENT AND PURPOSE OF.

IN REGARDS TO SOMEONE BEING ILLEGAL AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

THAT'S NOT OUR PURPOSE, RIGHT? IF AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT COMMITS A CRIME, CERTAINLY WE'LL CERTAINLY GO DOWN THAT THAT AVENUE.

BUT OUR PURPOSE IS FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND NOT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN TERMS OF SOMEONE BEING HERE ILLEGALLY.

APPRECIATE THAT. AND AGAIN, I AM IN FAVOR OF PROTECTION IN FAVOR OF SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY.

JUST THAT THESE PRIVATE COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, WHEN MONEY IS INVOLVED, THEY'RE NOT AS NOBLE AND FINE AS YOU GENTLEMEN WHO GO AND SERVE AS GOVERNMENT WORKERS EVERY DAY.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY ISSUE.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S A TOUGH BALANCE.

AND AT THIS TIME I'M IN FAVOR OF PROTECTION, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU GUYS PRESENTED TO US TODAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS AND COMMISSIONER DANIEL.

THANK YOU MAYOR. FOR THE PARKS.

ARE THEY? THREE 60.

WELL, FOR BOTH, ARE THEY 360 DEGREES OR JUST 180? MULTIPLE CAMERAS.

IT'S MULTIPLE CAMERAS.

IF WE WOULD HAVE A CAMERA POSITIONED.

THERE'S TWO ENTRANCES, TWO PRIMARY ENTRANCES TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX, FOR EXAMPLE.

EACH PARK IS DIFFERENT. IT'S ABOUT 120 DEGREE FIELD OF VIEW, I BELIEVE IT'S NOT 360, BUT IT'S LOOKING AT A CERTAIN ANGLE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

IT DEPENDS. THERE'S A COUPLE LOCATIONS THAT USE DIFFERENT CAMERAS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT ANGLES BECAUSE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY.

SO THE DIRECTION COMES A LITTLE CLOSER IN THE FIELD OF VIEW.

WE WORK WITH THE COMPANY BASICALLY TO DETERMINE WHERE TO PUT THEM AT, AND THEY DETERMINE WHICH MODEL CAMERA TO PUT AT THAT LOCATION BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THIS IS A DUAL QUESTION HERE.

SO RESIDENT CALLS IN SAYING HEY THERE'S ILLEGAL ACTIVITY GOING ON AT THE PARK.

WILL THAT BE LOOKED INTO AND SHARED? I PRESUME. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ASKING, BUT LIKE WE AND IT IN THE CITY CAMERA WOULDN'T HAVE THAT ACCESS THE DATA.

IT WOULD BE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA.

THE TAG DATA. YES. YEAH.

SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE PARKS ALREADY HAS CAMERAS, CAMERA SURVEILLANCE.

SO IF THERE'S ILLEGAL ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THE PARK YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE CAMERAS BY VIRTUE OF THE CITY, THE CITY'S CAMERAS.

AND SO WE WE CAN OBTAIN IMAGES FROM THE CITY PARKS, CAMERAS.

BUT THE LPR SYSTEM IS GOING TO GIVE US A TAG INFORMATION FOR A VEHICLE THAT'S INVOLVED.

GOT IT. I THINK I JUST WANT TO ANSWER JUST A BIT OF VICE MAYOR'S CONCERN.

I THINK THE THE GOAL OF THE BIG CORPORATIONS IS JUST ACQUISITIONS.

THEY SEE HOW MUCH THIS IS PROGRESSING THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES WITH CAMERAS, AND THEY JUST WANT A PIECE OF IT.

I DON'T THINK SO MUCH THE DATA OF IT.

UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO, I'M SURE THEY'LL BE CREATIVE, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST THE ACQUISITION PARTS OF IT.

TO THE MAYOR'S POINT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THESE CAMERAS, RIGHT?

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SO REGARDLESS IF WE SHARE THIS OR NOT, CRIMINALS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE AND THEY'RE LOOKING AROUND AS WELL, RIGHT.

THEY GO TO THE MALL OR THERE'S A CAMERA THERE.

THERE'S A CAMERA THERE. THERE'S A CAMERA THERE.

CAN WE GO TO PAGE SEVEN WITH LOCATIONS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MAP.

THE MAP. SO THE BEST KEPT SECRET SO I CAN GO TO.

I CAN GO THROUGH 108 SOUTH, GO EAST ON MCNAB AND GO SOUTH ON PINE ISLAND.

AND GO EAST ON COMMERCIAL AND GO SOUTH ON NORTHWEST 75TH.

AND NOT BE SEEN.

SO THIS CAMERA, THE NUMBER TWO TO THE NORTH HERE ON PINE ISLAND, IS IT MIS LOCATED RIGHT NOW FOR PHASE ONE? THAT WOULD BE A YELLOW FOR PHASE TWO.

AND THERE WOULD BE A TWO HERE AT PHASE ONE, JUST SOUTH OF WHERE THE OLD SORRY, NORTH OF WHERE? THE OLD TAMARAC POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I THINK THE KINGDOM HALL IS THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOCATION HERE ON PINE ISLAND, JUST NORTH OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD.

RIGHT NOW. PHASE ONE HAS BEEN MOSTLY THE THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, THE KNOB HILL UNIVERSITY, PINE ISLAND ROCK ISLAND COMMERCIAL, AND I'M SORRY, COMMERCIAL AND TURNPIKE AREA.

THOSE ARE THE PHASE ONE LOCATIONS.

WHAT ABOUT IF I'M ON 108TH WAY? WEST, SOUTH.

SOUTH HERE? NO.

UP ON THE PURPLE AREA.

YEAH. RIGHT THERE.

SO IF I'M ON THAT ROAD GOING SOUTH AND I MAKE A LEFT GOING EAST ON MCNABB.

IS THERE.

I FEEL THERE'S A GAP THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED.

SO THERE MAY BE GAPS ON THIS PROPOSED MAP.

AND CERTAINLY YOU'RE CORRECT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING FOR TRAILERS, MOBILE TRAILERS.

SO THAT WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE WE CAN FILL IN WITH THE MOBILE TRAILERS.

WELCOME IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.

COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER THAT SUNSET POINT PARK.

AND WE HAVE LPP'S IN THAT STREET THERE, RIGHT WHERE THAT ROAD COMES DOWN TO THE PARK.

ON THE T INTERSECTION.

RIGHT? YOU TURN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SUNSET POINT PARK.

RIGHT? YES.

RIGHT. YES.

SO THERE WOULD BE LPP'S TO THE EAST OF THAT FOR THE PARK.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S STILL TOO FAR THOUGH, BECAUSE THERE'S TREES AND.

I DON'T THINK. AND THERE'S HEDGES.

I DON'T THINK IT'LL REACH.

JUST SHARING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL.

COMMISSIONER. DANIEL. I WAS JUST SAYING WHAT? I THINK IT'S CALLED FLOCK.

THERE ARE ARTICLES ON THE INTERNET THAT STATE THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT COUNTIES JACKSONVILLE, SAINT JOHN, ALL THESE COUNTIES THAT ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH PRIVACY BREACH.

SO IF WE COULD JUST MAKE SURE AND LOOK INTO THAT.

WHAT WERE THE COUNTIES YOU SAID? JACKSONVILLE. I SAW JACKSONVILLE, SAINT JOHN COUNTY.

I MEAN, YOU COULD JUST GOOGLE AT THIS POINT.

VICE-MAYOR AND AND TO DOCTOR DANIEL'S POINT AGAIN.

YEAH. THE THE PRIVACY ISSUES.

AGAIN, THIS DATA IS BEING STORED BY THESE COMPANIES ON SERVERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE PEOPLE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA.

THEY'RE SELLING THAT INFORMATION.

PEOPLE CAN USE IT FOR POLITICAL REASON.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS CASE IN IN FULTON COUNTY, WHERE THE TWO ATTORNEYS, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, ONE OF THEM, THEY PULLED THIS SOME COMPANY CALLED CELL HAWK, ONE OF THE OPPOSING COUNSEL WAS ABLE TO PULL THIS DATA BY GOING TO CELL HAWK AND SEEING ALL HIS MOVEMENTS PRIVATELY.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY WENT AND DID THE LEGAL STUFF TO SUBPOENA HIS RECORDS.

BUT WITH THESE COMPANIES, THE WAY THEY MONETIZE THEIR MONEY IS USING DATA.

I JUST KNOW THAT FROM THE TECHNOLOGY WORLD THAT I WORK IN, AND IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO INVEST IN A COMPANY, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND WAYS TO USE OUR DATA.

THEY MIGHT NOT TELL US, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GETTING THIS INFORMATION AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO IT, THEY'RE GOING TO UTILIZE IT.

SO I AM IN I AM I WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT TO USE THE DATA TO GET THE BAD PEOPLE AND THE BAD CHARACTERS.

THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF IT.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE PEOPLE'S CIVIL LIBERTIES.

YOU KNOW, THE FOURTH, THE REASON WE HAVE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT IN AMERICA IS THAT NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS THAT AS TO PROTECT PEOPLE'S PRIVATE RIGHTS AND PRIVACY.

AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT PRIVACY.

SO BALANCING THIS, THIS LINE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DATA, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE COMPANIES.

LIKE I SAID IN THE ARTICLE, I'LL SEND IT TO YOU GUYS.

CORAL GABLES ONE YEAR ONE ONE CITY STORES THE DATA FOR ONE YEAR IN ALL THE CITY STORES FOR THREE YEARS.

SO AND THE RESIDENT WAS SUING BECAUSE THEY WERE LOOKING TO SEE WHERE HE'S GOING TO PUBLIX, WHERE HE'S GOING TO THE DRY CLEANERS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

YES. THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF CATCHING THE NEFARIOUS CHARACTERS.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BALANCE.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ASK THAT QUESTION IN TERMS OF DATA STORAGE WITH THESE COMPANIES AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE DATA, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO STORE IT?

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AND YOU GUYS WATCHING OVER IT.

YEAH. AS OPPOSED TO STORED IN AMAZON CLOUD OR SOMEPLACE IN VIRGINIA OR SOMEPLACE IN OHIO WHERE ANYONE CAN, YOU KNOW, HACK INTO A DATA ROOM AND ACCESS OR RESIDENTS DATA. SO THAT'S ONLY MY CONCERN.

BUT AGAIN, PROTECTION IS UTMOST IMPORTANT.

I RATHER SOMEONE BE LIVING THEN, YOU KNOW, HAVING SUPER, SUPER PRIVACY.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE PRESENTING.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, DID YOU WANT TO GO AGAIN? OKAY. SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS AND THE CONCERNS.

AND HONESTLY, EVERYBODY KNOWS I CAN'T STAND THAT THESE THINGS TRACK US, WHICH MIGHT BE WHY THEY KNOW WHERE THEY WENT TO PUBLIX AND WHERE THEY WENT TO.

WHEREVER THEY WENT TO.

MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE LICENSE PLATE READER.

IT MIGHT BE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE ON THEIR PHONE AND THAT THESE PHONES TRACK US MORNING, NOON AND NIGHT.

AND IF YOU TRY TO TURN IT OFF, IT WON'T LET YOU GET YOUR SIMPLE INFORMATION LIKE YOU NORMALLY GET, BECAUSE YOU'VE TURNED IT OFF AND THEY WANT TO TRACK YOU.

AND BY YOUR SIMPLE.

AGREEMENT TO USE THESE BEAUTIFUL THINGS IN THE TECHNOLOGY WORLD.

IT'LL BE A CELL PHONE. WE'RE GIVING UP OUR RIGHTS, AND I HATE IT.

BUT I ALSO DO LIKE THE.

SO IT'S SOMETIMES THE USER PART OF IT.

AND WHILE I AGREE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE OUR SERVER CLOUD BACK HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC, I'M LOOKING AT OUR TWO IT PEOPLE WHO GOT RID OF THAT BEAUTIFUL HUGE SERVER ROOM THAT HAD ALL THESE THINGS HERE WHEN I FIRST STARTED, BECAUSE WE'RE NOW CLOUD BASED, AND UNLESS WE BUILD THAT TAJ MAHAL OF A CITY HALL, YOU HAVE THE ROOM, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE SERVERS. AND IN THAT SIZE, I MEAN, THEY WERE BASICALLY SIX, FIVE AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY AROUND AND HAD A LOT OF STUFF IN THERE.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S A BIG DIGRESSION.

SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED AND I'M JUST GOING TO ASK.

SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE REPETITIVE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT PROTECTING THE DEVICES.

YOU SEE HOW PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHERE WE'RE LOCATED, KNOW HOW TO DRIVE OAKLAND PARKS.

NOT ON HERE.

AS YOU GO TO OAKLAND PARK AND YOU DO THE PATH THAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS SAID, YOU CAN EASILY GET INTO OAKLAND PARK.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY EASILY GET INTO SUNRISE AND OAKLAND PARK AND SUNRISE.

SISTER CITIES ARE NOT USING THIS JUST AS YET.

SO. IF I'M A CRIMINAL MIND, I'M GOING.

I'M LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS.

I'M PLANNING MY GETAWAY ROUTE AND I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING.

WHAT STOPS ME FROM CHOPPING DOWN THAT 12 FOOT POLE? THAT. HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN MAINTAINED? LOOK, GRANTED, I WATCHED A LITTLE TOO MUCH NCIS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND LAW AND ORDER, BUT I'M JUST SAYING.

RIGHT. IT'S IS TRUE.

IS DRAMA REGARDING THE TRUTH OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING OR PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE ART AND THE DRAMA AND CREATING THE.

CRIMES THAT WE SEE ON TV.

A WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER TIME.

ANYWAY. I'M FOR THIS, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE PROTECTED.

I'M GETTING CONTINUAL EMAILS FROM OUR RESIDENTS SAYING, WILL THE CITY HELP US PUT LICENSE PLATE READERS IN OUR CONDOMINIUM COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING CARS STOLEN OR THEY'RE.

HUBCAPS REMOVED OR THEIR TIRES REMOVED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE ASKING US FOR WHAT OTHER WAYS CAN BE DONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A FOURTH PHASE OF THIS.

AND I SAY FOURTH BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PHASE TWO AND THREE.

OF WHERE OUR RESIDENTS CAN DO AN ATTACHMENT OTHER THAN LIKE THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A PART OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

BUT WE HAVE I'M GOING TO PICK OUT A COMMUNITY JUST PICKING OUT A CONDO COMMUNITY IN LYME BAY.

OR VERSAILLES GARDENS.

FIRCREST 14.

FIRCREST. THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SOME ISSUES GOING ON WITH CARS BEING SOLD.

WE GOT MANOR PARK.

WHAT DO WE DO TO ALLOW THEM TO JOIN WITH THE LP'S IN THE FUTURE? AND IF WE IT'S NOT MAYBE AN ANSWER.

FOR NOW. I'M ASKING TO CONTEMPLATE.

MAYBE THIS GOES INTO THE BROWARD, THE TAMARAC RAIL CRIME CENTER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOPEFULLY DOING FOR THE PROTECTION.

I WILL TELL YOU, WHEN I SAW THE 90, WAS IT 97 ON THAT HERE WHEN YOU TOLD US ABOUT THE STATS? MY MIND WAS BOGGLED BECAUSE YES, TWO THIRDS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT A THIRD IS STILL IN OUR CITY.

OUR RESIDENTS ARE SCREAMING FOR BETTER PROTECTION.

SO I AM 100% FOR THIS, EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T STAND THE IDEA OF BEING WATCHED.

AND YOU WILL SEE MG14 RIDING SOMEWHERE AND YOU KNOW IT IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT IT HAS CONCERNS, BUT.

I'M CONCERNED ALSO ABOUT THE SUDDENLY MISSING POLLS.

DID WE KNOW THAT THE SUDDENLY MISSING POLLS FROM THE RED LIGHT CAMERA JUST GO AWAY? DID WE APPROVE IT? WAS IT WE FOUND OUT? IS OUR PURCHASING MANAGER REACHED OUT TO THEM, AND APPARENTLY THEY THEY PULLED THOSE POLLS OUT. SO I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.

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AND THOSE WERE INSTALLED ON OUR CITY PROPERTY AND OUR CITY RIGHTS AWAY, AND WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT UNTIL WE WENT TO GO LOOK FOR IT.

NOW WE NEED CAMERAS FOR OUR OWN POLLS.

LITTLE CONCERNING.

A LITTLE CONCERNING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE PUT OUR LAYOUT OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE IT.

THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE POLES.

THEY'RE HANDLED. BY WHO? THE CITY. BY VIGILANT.

BY FLOCK.

WHO MAINTAINS THE POLLS.

SO FOR VIGILANT, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT.

THE YOU TALK ABOUT MONITORING THAT THEY'RE STILL THERE.

WE WANT TO HAVE A DEDICATED PERSON WHO PART OF THEIR JOB DUTIES WITH BSO IS TO MONITOR AND MAINTAIN THE HEALTH OF THE SYSTEM, TO PHYSICALLY VERIFY THE HEALTH OF THE OF THE CAMERAS, TO DIGITALLY CHECK THE EFFICACY OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN IF WE HAVE DAMAGE REPAIRS NECESSARY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REACH OUT TO THE TO THE VENDOR FOR THAT PURPOSE.

IF AGAIN, IF IT'S DAMAGED, THAT'S INHERENT WARRANTY COVERED.

THAT WOULD BE ONE THING. IF IT'S RUN OVER BY A CAR, THAT'S THE SECOND THING.

BUT THAT WOULD BE UPON US.

NOT TO SPEAK FOR DIRECTOR TRAEGER, BUT TWIGGER SORRY.

TO THE FLOCK.

IT IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE $3,000 THAT IF IT GOES DOWN, THEY CAN TELL EVERYBODY CAN DIGITALLY CHECK IT.

BUT ACCORDING TO THEM, THEY WILL JUMP AHEAD OF YOU BEFORE YOU EVEN REALIZE IT'S DOWN AND START TO DISPATCH A REPAIR PROCESS.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING ATTRACTIVE IN THAT, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S SET IT AND FORGET IT AS OPPOSED TO US, IT'S HAVING TO MONITOR IT AND MAKE SURE.

BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A VALUE TO EVERYBODY TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM, TO MONITOR THE SYSTEM AND NOT JUST NOTICE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TRAILER THAT WE HAVE DEPLOYED AND WE PAY ATTENTION THAT THE TRAILER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S SOLAR SUPPLEMENTED, EVENTUALLY WILL LOSE THAT POWER, NEED TO BE BROUGHT IN AND RECHARGED.

SO IT BEHOOVES US TO NOTICE WHEN WE START GETTING HITS, ALERTS FOR MISSING PERSONS OR STOLEN VEHICLES ON THAT TRAILER TO SAY, HEY, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A HIT IN A COUPLE OF HOURS.

MAYBE THIS THING NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN, SO IT'S CHECKING TO SEE IF IT'S STILL OUT.

NOT JUST IT'S STILL OUT THERE, BUT THAT IT'S STILL OPERATIONAL.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE RECHARGED.

SO AGAIN, THERE IS A DEDICATED SOME OWNERSHIP THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN OF IT, BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THAT THAN TO, YOU KNOW, RELY ON THE COMPANIES BECAUSE VIGILANT CAN ALSO DO THAT AND TELL YOU.

BUT IT MAY NOT BE AS QUICK OF A TURNAROUND TIME AS FLOCK, FOR EXAMPLE.

YEAH, I HAVE VISIONS OF.

WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE THINGS? THE.

OH, I JUST BLANKED OUT THE NAME.

THE THINGS THAT GO UP, THE FLOAT AROUND AND THE DRONES, THOSE THINGS.

YEAH. I JUST HAVE SUCH A BLANK ON THIS.

DRONES GOING UP WITH A LITTLE SPRAY CAN AND JUST BLOCKING IT AND DOING WHATEVER.

SINCE THEY CARRY CAMERAS AND THEY CARRY ALL KINDS OF THINGS RIGHT NOW AND THEY CAN CARRY PACKAGES.

AND PEW PEW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A PEW PEW IS.

I'M A LITTLE TOO SCARED TO EVEN LEARN RIGHT NOW.

BUT THE POINT BEING IS.

THE SYSTEMS CAN GET ATTACKED TOO, SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE EYES ON IT.

MAINTENANCE ON IT.

WELL, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED. I HELPED START THE BSO REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY TIME WHERE THERE'S BEEN AN INTENTIONAL CRIMINAL MISCHIEF ATTACK ON ANY POLL.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOCATION THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT WAS SOMEWHAT EASILY ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS CONSTRUCTED.

IT BASICALLY GAVE PEOPLE A STEP THAT THEY COULD JUMP UP AND KNOCK THE ANGLE OF THE CAMERA, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ONCE IT WAS IDENTIFIED, WAS REMEDIED.

BUT IN TERMS OF ACTUAL DESTRUCTION, I MEAN, YEAH, YOU TALK ABOUT DRONES, PAINTBALL GUNS, FIREARMS, COMMISSIONER, VILLALOBOS, I MEAN, THERE'S WAYS YOU CAN DAMAGE STUFF OR DRIVE A CAR OVER IT, QUITE FRANKLY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT AWARE OF.

AND I CAN LOOK INTO IT IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SPECIFIC ATTACK.

AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE, IF WE SAW SOME OF THE PICTURES TODAY WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND, YOU MAY.

AS DIRECTOR TWIGGER SAID, YOU START TO NOTICE THESE THINGS.

ONCE YOU'RE EXPOSED TO THEM, YOU REALIZE, HOLY SHOOT, THEY'RE THERE.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE.

AND THIS IS THIS IS A PROVEN TECHNOLOGY.

THIS IS OVER 30 YEARS OLD.

MANY CITIES NATIONWIDE HAVE BEEN OPERATING FULL SYSTEMS ON THIS FOR, YOU KNOW, GREAT EFFICACY FOR GREAT TIMES, GREAT PERIODS OF TIME.

AND SO THIS IS NOTHING NEW.

THIS IS US CATCHING UP TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN BROWARD COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND AGAIN, I'M MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS THAN I WAS FOR THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, BECAUSE THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS HAD A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE ON THIS, AND I COULD SEE WHERE THE SUPPOSED NARROW SCOPE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE BENEFIT.

AND IT'S BEEN SHOWN.

AND NO, I THINK YOU'RE TAKING BACK SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS OF WHEN YOU'RE PLACING IT, WHEREVER YOU'RE PLACING IT, HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PLACE IT.

YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIG CONCERN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BE A CRIMINAL ABOUT IT.

HOPEFULLY WE HAVE ENOUGH HELICOPTERS, AVIATION, SO BSA AVIATION SUPPORT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THIS. AND I SAY THAT WITH ALL KINDS OF CONCERN FOR OUR OFFICER WHO PASSED AWAY, WHO

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OUR PARK RANGERS IN OUR PARK.

DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE VIDEO FROM FLOCK? DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO ANYTHING WE CURRENTLY HAVE? I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE TENANT TO ANSWER THAT, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT'S SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT CAN GET TO THE FLOCK DATA.

CORRECT? IT HAS TO BE CGA CERTIFIED CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION SERVICE CERTIFIED.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TRAINING AND SKILL SET OF PARKS, BUT I WOULD NOT THINK SO.

BUT WE HAVE SOME OTHER CAMERAS THAT ARE ALSO IN THE PARKS CURRENTLY.

THE OTHER CAMERAS IN THE PARKS OF THE CITY OWN CAMERAS JUST FOR SURVEILLANCE.

YES THEY CAN.

I DON'T THINK WE DO IT RIGHT AT THIS MINUTE, BUT WE COULD THEY COULD ACCESS THOSE.

SO WHO HAS ACCESS TO THOSE? BUT WHO'S THE WHO THAT HAS ACCESS? CURRENTLY, ANYBODY OR NOBODY.

SO, MAYOR, I THINK WE NEED TO DIFFERENTIATE THE THE TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. WE HAVE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS, SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, WHICH THEN, THEN WE COULD SHARE THOSE IMAGES WITH OUR APPROPRIATE INTERNAL STAFF AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. BUT THE THE THE USE OF THE LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE ONLY FOR IT'S A DIFFERENT CONCEPT.

ALL RIGHT. SO BASICALLY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PHASE TWO.

PHASE TWO WAS FORTHCOMING.

PHASE TWO IS HOW LONG DOWN THE ROAD IS IT? WE NEED A YEAR TO SEE HOW THIS WORKS.

WE NEED A YEAR TO GET FUNDS.

WE'RE DOING THREE YEARS BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE SHARING WITH US, WHEN COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS IS GIVING US PATH, WE HAVE THE PATH THAT SAYS PHASE TWO.

IS THERE AN ESTIMATED TIME FRAME ON PHASE TWO OR IS THAT A IN THE FUTURE? SO CURRENTLY, FOR OUR FACE PURPOSES, FOR OUR PHASE TWO, THERE'S NO ESTIMATED TIME.

WE EXPECT AS SOON AS WE CAN REPLENISH OUR LITTLE FUNDS, WE'LL BE PRESENTING PHASE TWO OUT FOR YOU.

WE'LL BE ROLLING OUT FOR YOU. DO YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO US? IF YOU HAVE LATF FUNDS TO.

NO. PHASE TWO, WHEN WE WERE ALREADY ARE GOING THROUGH WHAT PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ALREADY IS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK IF COMMISSION APPROVES AND THEY GIVE US A CONSENSUS THROUGH DIRECTION THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU FOR PHASE TWO.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND THEN PHASE THREE WOULD BE WHAT WOULD THAT BE? WHEN WE ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO TAG IN AND BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME ACCESS TO SOME GRANT FUNDS WHERE THEY CAN PUT PARTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN AND RECEIVE PARTIAL AMOUNT OF GRANTS TO BE ABLE TO LICENSE PLATE READERS BY THEIR COMMUNITIES.

MAYOR ARE THOSE CAMERAS ARE ALREADY ELIGIBLE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM OKAY, SO THEY'RE ALREADY ELIGIBLE FOR THAT.

AND THERE'S NO COST FOR THEM TO CONNECT WITH THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER SO THEY CAN THEY CAN ALREADY HAVE THAT.

SO ON BEHALF OF BSO THROUGH BSO, NOT BEING THROUGH A CITY THAT WILL WIND UP BEING AN INITIATIVE THAT IS DESIGNATED TO ONE PERSON ON THE COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY. WILL YOU PLEASE PUT OUT INFORMATION FOR NEIGHBORHOODS TO KNOW ABOUT THAT? I THINK THE BEST THING WE COULD DO IS PUT THEM IN CONTACT WITH THE DIFFERENT VENDORS AND ALLOW THEM TO SOLICIT THE VENDORS WITH A DIFFERENT PROPOSALS ARE BECAUSE AGAIN, ONCE THE LEASE THAT IS SOMEWHAT A LITTLE MORE MANAGEABLE FINANCIALLY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS VERSUS A PURCHASE WOULD REQUIRE, I GUESS, SAVING UP OR A ONE TIME ASSESSMENT IF THEY CAN UNILATERALLY DO IT WITHOUT US OR WITH THE PARKS IF THEY GO TO THE VENDORS.

LIKE I SAID, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TAMARAC, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH US WHEN THEY PUT IT INTO PLACE, BUT WE STILL GET ACCESS TO THEIR DATA ONCE IT'S PLUGGED INTO THE SYSTEM AND ACTIVE. YEAH, BUT THEY CAN'T GET LATF FUNDS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH SOME PROGRAM WITH YOU.

I'M NOT 100% SURE IF THEY WOULD EVEN QUALIFY FOR.

THEY WOULD. NO, NOT NOT NOT COMMUNITIES.

GOT TO WORK ON THAT. OKAY.

AND DO YOU SEE THAT'S 18 OUT OF 31 CITIES THAT ARE APPROACHING AND DOING.

THESE HELP OUR READERS, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL SPREAD THE.

COMPLETE THE GAPS THAT ARE IN THE SYSTEM.

THERE'S MORE. DAVIE AND MIRAMAR ARE PROBABLY ON THERE.

THEY SHOULD BE ON THERE AS WELL, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE.

SO THERE'S IT'S 21 OUT OF 30.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE IT AS AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID. AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO JUST MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.

NO PROBLEM WITH THE CONVERSATION.

I THINK THE CONVERSATION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO BE IN THE SUNSHINE FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW ABOUT.

AND SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS ALSO AND OUR BUSINESSES KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THEM AND HELP YOU IN PROTECTING US.

IT WAS JUST THE FINER, FINER, FINER DETAILS THAT HAS MY CONCERN STILL.

AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.

SO FROM RIGHT NOW, YOU WE'VE DEFINITELY HAVE CONSENSUS.

OKAY, BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE PHASE ONE.

I'LL LET COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS ASK HIS QUESTION.

AND THEN, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU CONSENSUS WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO COME BACK FOR THE PHASE TWO PART, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

CAPTAIN, IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE CAPTAIN QUIGLEY FROM OAKLAND PARK.

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I'M SORRY. HE WANTS YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE CAPTAINS OF OAKLAND PARK AND SUNRISE TO SEE IF THEY ARE INTENDING TO ADD AN LPR PROGRAM TO OAKLAND PARK.

MORE BECAUSE THEY ARE THEIR BASE.

SO, CERTAINLY.

I KNOW SUNRISE HAS 13 PEOPLE THAT CAME INTO OUR CITY.

SUNRISE. SUNRISE.

SUNRISE HAD A SYSTEM THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING TO PUT IN PLACE.

AND THIS LAST, NOT THIS NOT 2023 LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THEIR FUNDING WAS CUT, WAS VETOED.

SO THEY I KNOW THEY HAD INTENDED TO PUT A PLACE THEY NOW THEY'VE GOT A NEW CHIEF THAT'S THAT'S INSTALLED RECENTLY.

SO I HAVEN'T REACHED OUT RECENTLY TO SEE IF THEY'VE REVIVED THAT PROGRAM.

BUT I KNOW THEY WERE LOOKING INTO A PROGRAM.

I'M NOT WITH CAPTAIN MURILLO QUIGLEY.

THEY GOT THE HYPHENATED NAME. THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM.

SHE I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT OAKLAND PARK IS LOOKING AT PUTTING INTO IT.

I HAVEN'T HAD ANY INDICATIONS ABOUT THAT, THOUGH.

WELL, YOU'LL HAVE A NUDGE, YOU KNOW.

HEY, YOU'LL HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS.

AND IT IS THE HOPES THAT THIS ISN'T HAPPENING DAILY OR EVERY HOUR ON THE HOUR THAT WE SHOULD BE SO CONCERNED.

BUT WE STILL NEED TO BE CONCERNED AND BE PREPARED.

AND THEN ACTUALLY ON FOLLOWING FOR BEFORE WE GO TO THE QUESTION ABOUT PHASE TWO, THIS IS A PILOT.

YOU HAVE THIS PILOT FOR THE FLOCK PART, WHICH IS THE PILOT IS FOR HOW LONG? ONE YEAR. ONE YEAR.

IS THIS WITH THE LPR FOR PHASE ONE A PILOT OR IS IT.

IT'S IT. THIS IS PERMANENT.

THIS IS IT. AND BASICALLY LTA FUNDS ARE TAKEN CARE OF MAKING SURE THE SECURITY.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEN BUT THE PARKS PART IS, YOU KNOW.

OKAY. NOW.

DOES THIS COMMISSION SUPPORT KNOWING THAT THERE'S A PHASE TWO, KNOWING THERE'S A PROPOSED PLAN FOR PLACES, PHASE TWO, BUT BASED ON CITY STAFF AND CITY BSO DISCUSSING IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED OR NOT GOING FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO, WHEN THE FUNDS ARE REPLENISHED WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

OR IS I GOT IT? YES YES YES.

AND A THUMBS UP. SO BASICALLY, THE FIVE OF US AGREE THAT PHASE TWO WHEN IT IS READY.

THEN. AND YOU ARE SUPPLEMENT.

YOU'VE GOT YOUR FUNDS BACK UP. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.

RUN WITH IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 1153.

WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 12.

TEN. IS 12 MINUTES.

ENOUGH TIME. ALL RIGHT.

SEE YOU BACK HERE AT 1210.

WE'RE IN RECESS. THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

WE ARE NOW GOING BACK TO ONE B GLADES GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENT OPTION DISCUSSION BEING PRESENTED BY RUDOLF GALINDO, OUR PARK AND

[1-b Glades Golf Course Improvement Options Discussion Presented by Rudolph Galindo, Parks and Recreation Director]

PLEASE PROCEED AND MAKE SURE, GENTLEMEN, SPEAK INTO THE MIC.

OKAY. HELLO AGAIN EVERYONE.

I'M BACK. I'M HERE WITH DAN ZIMMER, WHO'S THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR TROON, AND WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE GLADES COURSE RENOVATION AND REALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION REGARDING A FEW OPTIONS FOR RENOVATION OF THE GLADES GOLF COURSE.

AND ASK FOR SOME DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS.

AND BEFORE WE START WITH THAT, I'VE INCLUDED THREE OF THE GOALS UNDER THE CITY OF TAMARAC STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

TAMARAC IS HOME, WELL-MAINTAINED, INCLUSIVE AND EQUITABLE PARKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

TAMARAC IS ECONOMICALLY RESILIENT, A PLACE TO THRIVE, BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND GOAL NUMBER FOUR TAMARAC IS VIBRANT ACTIVE AND FUN, ATTRACTIVE AND HEALTHY LIFESTYLE.

JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT IN TERMS OF THESE OPTIONS.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A REVIEW OF THE EXISTING 18 HOLE COURSE AT THE GLADES, AT THE GLADES COURSE THAT PLAYS AS A PAR 64.

NO RENOVATIONS OR UPGRADES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ON THE COURSE SINCE THE CITY PURCHASED IT IN 2011.

ALL COMPONENTS OF THE GOLF COURSE ARE PAST THEIR EXPECTED LIFESPAN.

THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM INSTALLED WAS WAS WHEN THE COURSE WAS BUILT 1971 AND IS IN POOR CONDITION.

SO THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO ELEVATE THE CONDITIONS AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT THE USERS HAVE TO ATTRACT MORE CUSTOMERS AND NEW GUESTS.

AND SO WHAT'S GOING TO WHAT WILL BE PRESENTED TODAY IS TWO CONCEPTS.

THE FIRST CONCEPT IS KEEPING THE EXISTING LAYOUT 18 HOLE LAYOUT AS IT IS BUT COMPLETE EXTENSIVE RENOVATIONS TO IRRIGATION AND

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SO WE'LL PRESENT THE TWO OPTIONS AND THEN ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

AND FOR CONSIDERATIONS WE'LL WE'LL BE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE GLADES COURSE.

SO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CHAMPIONS COURSE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME INCLUDED IN OUR EXISTING CAPITAL.

CAPITAL FUNDING REQUESTS.

SO FOR REFERENCE, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE COLONY WEST GOLF CLUB.

SO ON THE EAST OF PINE ISLAND ROAD WE HAVE OUR CHAMPIONS COURSE AND THE VIEW RESTAURANT.

AND THEN TO THE WEST OF PINE ISLAND, WE HAVE THE GLADES COURSE, WHICH IS THE COURSE THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING TODAY.

FLIPPED. WHAT'S THAT? YOU'RE RIGHT. YEP.

GOOD. OKAY. SO OKAY.

AND I WILL PASS THIS OVER TO DAN ZIMMER TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN CONCEPT NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A REDESIGN OF THE LAYOUT.

YEAH. SO WE LOOKED AT TWO SEPARATE CONCEPTS.

THE FIRST ONE DISCUSSING HERE IS DOING AN EXTENSIVE RENOVATIONS TO THE EXISTING COURSE.

SO MAINTAINING THE EXISTING 18 HOLE LAYOUT AND FOOTPRINT OF.

THE COURSE.

SO THE SCOPE OF THAT WOULD BE ON THE FAIRWAYS.

SO REMOVING EXISTING TURF, MINOR SHAPING AND ADJUSTMENTS ADDS SOIL AMENDMENTS TO IMPROVE THE GROWING ENVIRONMENT.

SOD STEEP SLOPES AND THEN SPRIG WITH SPRIG THE REMAINING AREA WITH CELEBRATION BERMUDA GRASS ON THE TEES.

WE WOULD STRIP THE EXISTING SURFACES AND EXPAND THEM OUT TO MAKE THEM A LARGER TEEING GROUNDS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THERE CURRENTLY.

IT GETS A LOT OF PLAY, BUT THE TEE GROUNDS ARE SMALL, SO IT GETS A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR.

WE WOULD LASER LEVEL THEM, SOD THE SLOPES AND THEN SPRIG THE REMAINING AREAS WITH BERMUDA GRASS.

THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON THE CHAMPS COURSE IN 2022.

GREENS, WE WOULD STRIP THE EXISTING SURFACES AND EXPAND OUT TO THEIR ORIGINAL SIZE.

GOLF GREENS NATURALLY SHRINK IN SIZE OVER THE YEARS JUST FROM MOWING PATTERNS.

AND YEAR AFTER YEAR THEY KIND OF SHRINK IN.

SO IF YOU LOOKED AT THE COURSES NOW, YOU COULD YOU'D KIND OF BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY WERE, AND WE WOULD EXPAND THEM BACK OUT TO, TO THAT SIZE.

WE WOULD TAKE FOUR INCHES OFF OF THE SURFACE.

SO WE WOULD REMOVE POOR SOIL, AND THEN WE WOULD REPLACE THAT WITH A GREENS MIX, WHICH IS A GOOD ENVIRONMENT TO MAINTAIN TURF.

WE WOULD SOD THE COLLARS WITH CELEBRATION BERMUDA GRASS AND THEN SPRIG IN WITH TIFF EAGLE TURF, WHICH IS THE CURRENT TYPE OF GRASS THAT ARE ON THE GREENS.

BUNKERS ARE CURRENTLY ARE NOT ANY BUNKERS ON THE GLADES COURSE.

SO WE WOULD PROPOSE CONSTRUCTING NEW BUNKERS, INSTALLING DRAINAGE AND LINERS TO HELP MAINTAIN THEM.

DRAINAGE IS SOMETHING THAT IS CURRENTLY A STRUGGLE IN CERTAIN AREAS.

SO THERE'S AN ALLOWANCE IN HERE TO ADD CATCH BASINS AND ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE TO HELP RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES.

AND THEN ALSO WOULD TOUCH CART PATHS.

AND PROBABLY THE LARGEST PIECE IS THE IRRIGATION, WHERE THE PUMP STATION WOULD BE REPLACED AND A COMPLETELY NEW IRRIGATION SYSTEM RUN THROUGHOUT THE GOLF COURSE. AND THEN THERE'S SOFT COSTS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE GOLF COURSE DESIGN, IRRIGATION DESIGN AND PROGRAMING, ENGINEERING AND PERMITTING.

SO FOR THE THE TOTAL COST ESTIMATES WE PROVIDED A RANGE ON THE LOWER END JUST OVER 3.3 MILLION AND ON A HIGHER END, 4.7 MILLION.

CONCEPT TWO IS TO TAKE THE EXISTING LAYOUT AND CONVERT IT INTO A NINE HOLE COURSE.

SO WE WOULD TAKE EXISTING HOLES ONE THROUGH THREE, 13 THROUGH 18 AND TURN THAT INTO A NINE HOLE COURSE.

THEN WOULD ALSO ADD IN A TOP TRACER DRIVING RANGE, SHORT GAME PRACTICE AND TEACHING FACILITY WHERE THE EXISTING HOLES FOUR THROUGH SIX AND TEN

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THAT WOULD SERVICE BOTH THE RANGE NINE HOLE COURSE AND SHORT COURSE.

THEN WE WOULD ADD IN A SIX HOLE SHORT WALKING COURSE ON THE EXISTING HOLE, SEVEN THROUGH TEN.

AND THEN THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A NEW ENTRANCE AND PARKING LOT ADDED.

THE ENTRANCE WOULD BE OFF NOB HILL ROAD AND PARKING LOT TO BASE THE SIZE TO BE DETERMINED BASED OFF ENGINEERING.

SO THE AND, WELL, WE'VE GOT SOME OVERHEADS, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

THAT'LL LAY THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT.

BETTER HOPEFULLY.

AND THE COST RANGE OF THIS CONCEPT IS ON THE LOWER END OF 4.7 MILLION UP TO JUST UNDER 7 MILLION FOR THIS PROJECT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SO THIS IS.

THE. THE AERIAL OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT, SO YOU CAN SEE PINE ISLAND ROAD TO THE EAST AND KNOB HILL TO THE WEST.

AND THE NINE HOLE COURSE WOULD BE TO THE EAST OF NORTHWEST 94TH STREET IN THAT AREA, WHICH AGAIN, IS IS USING EXISTING HOLES.

SO IT WOULD BE A RENOVATION OF THOSE NINE HOLES.

AND THEN JUST WEST OF NORTHWEST 94TH STREET, YOU CAN SEE THE AREA WHERE YOU COULD PUT IN A DRIVING RANGE SO IT WOULD HAVE NETTING HIGH NETTING ON BOTH SIDES TO PREVENT BALLS FROM GOING OUT OF THE RANGE AREA AND THEN ADD IN TOP TRACER TECHNOLOGY, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE HERE IN A MOMENT.

AND SHORT GAME AREA.

THIS IS A LITTLE CLOSER.

AERIAL OF THE TOPTRACER DRIVING RANGE AND SHORT COURSE CONCEPT, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ENTRY OFF OF NOB HILL WOULD BE AND PARKING LOT AND HOW IT WOULD BE LAID OUT.

SO TOP TRACER.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH TOP GOLF, BUT THIS IS A SIMILAR TECHNOLOGY FOR GREEN GRASS LOCATED AT COURSES, SO IT WOULD BE SET UP AS BAYS, AND YOU COULD SET IT UP TO CREATE A SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT THAT ATTRACTS MORE THAN JUST YOUR CORE GOLFER TO COME OUT AND HAVE AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE.

IT ALSO CATERS TOWARDS YOUR CORE GOLFER AS WELL, JUST FROM YOUR TYPICAL RANGE, USE AND DATA THAT THE SYSTEM PROVIDES.

A COUPLE MORE PICTURES HERE OF HOW YOU CAN SET THAT UP TO CREATE A FUN SOCIAL EXPERIENCE.

AND THEN THIS IS A CONCEPT FROM EL SEGUNDO, CALIFORNIA, A TOP GOLF CONCEPT WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT'S GOT A SHORT COURSE AND TOP GOLF DRIVING RANGE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO SOME OF THE BENEFITS AND DAN TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.

AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS IMPROVING THE EXISTING AMENITIES AND GREEN SPACE, REACHING NEW AUDIENCES, CREATING THE VIBRANT RECREATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS, AND PROJECTED INCREASE IN REVENUE NOT ONLY WITH THE RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING, BUT ADDING THE NEW FEATURES AS WELL TO INCREASE REVENUE. SO OUR NEXT STEPS IS ASKING THE COMMISSION FOR DIRECTION, OR HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SO THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND AND UPON MOVING FORWARD, THAT WOULD INCLUDE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, INCLUSION OF THE PROJECT IN THE CIP BUDGET AND THE PROJECT TIMELINE AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. THANKS.

I'M MORE INTERESTED IN CONCEPT TWO BECAUSE IT ADDS MORE THINGS TO DO.

MORE UTILIZATION, AND HOPEFULLY OTHER PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THE GOLF COURSE THAN THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY ENJOYING IT.

SO AND THE FUNDING ON THE LOWER END IS THE SAME FUNDING ON THE HIGHER END OF CONCEPT ONE.

SO I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU DO WITH CONCEPT TWO, BECAUSE HE EVEN MENTIONED A RESTAURANT AND A TEA THING, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY PICTURES.

NOT THAT. YEAH IT WOULD.

THE CONCEPT FOR THE FOR THE RESTAURANT WOULD BE A SMALL IT WOULDN'T BE A RESTAURANT WHERE THERE WOULD BE SEATING IN THE CLUBHOUSE, IT WOULD BE THERE TO SERVICE THE TOP TRACER BAYS.

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BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A FULL CLUBHOUSE SETUP LIKE YOU WOULD SEE AT THE EXISTING COURSE.

GIVE ME I DON'T GOLF, I DON'T I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GOLF.

SO MY QUESTION MIGHT SOUND SILLY.

IS IT LIKE WHERE YOU TAKE YOUR KIDS? WOULD IT BE? AND I FORGOT WHAT IT'S CALLED.

WHAT IS CALLED TOP GOLF.

IS THAT LIKE THAT? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? EXACTLY. YES. THAT THAT'S THE SETUP THAT IT THAT IT WOULD BE AND INTERESTING.

SO IN 2022, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE GOLF INDUSTRY, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE THAT PLAYED GOLF OFF COURSE MEANING AT A TOP GOLF FACILITY OR SIMULATOR THAN PLAYED GOLF ON COURSE.

SO THERE IS A MAJOR SHIFT IN THE GOLF INDUSTRY WHERE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE PICKING UP THE GAME BY STARTING OUT AT A FACILITY LIKE A TOPGOLF OR A TOPTRACER DRIVING RANGE.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, COMMISSIONER SOME PEOPLE.

CAN ONLY DO THAT YOU KNOW.

VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR WITH YOUR INNOVATIVE IDEA.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MAP, THIS IS BEHIND OF PLUM HARBOR AND PLUM BAY, RIGHT? SAY THAT AGAIN, IS THE AREA WHERE THIS MAP SHOWS IS BEHIND THE COMMUNITIES OF PLUM HARBOR AND PLUM BAY.

YES, CORRECT.

I THINK A FEW MONTHS AGO I MET WITH THESE RESIDENTS AND THEY WERE VERY CANDID.

AND VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT NOT HAVING OTHER THAN GOLF THAT TIGER WOODS, JACK NICKLAUS, LEE TREVINO, THE GREAT ONES, WHOEVER YOU WANT TO NAME PLAY, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT THEY WANT IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

THEY DON'T WANT TOP GOLF.

THEY DON'T WANT A PARKING LOT.

THEY DON'T WANT A RESTAURANT.

I THINK WE DO NEED ACTIVITIES THAT SURROUNDS GOLF.

AND I DO AGREE IT IS HEADING TOWARDS THAT AREA WHERE MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING INVOLVED IN TERMS OF STARTING PLAYING TOP GOLF AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MATURING INTO THE REGULAR GOLF GAME. THIS LOCATION IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT SPOT BASED ON THE RESIDENTS CONCERN.

I MEAN, WE CAN DATE. I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, USUALLY POLITICALLY CORRECT.

BUT WHAT I'M FIGHTING FOR MY RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, I GET A LITTLE PASSIONATE, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT.

THEY WERE VERY CANDID THAT THEY DON'T WANT THIS IN THEIR IN IN THEIR BACKYARD.

I THINK IF WE CAN SHIFT THIS EAST OF PINE ISLAND, I THINK THAT WILL BE A BETTER.

YOU KNOW, I WILL THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR NOW, THIS IS NOT THE, THE THE RIGHT LOCATION.

THOSE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY IN THEIR BACKYARD.

THEY DON'T WANT.

YOU CUT MY MIC? BUT. YEAH. YEAH.

I DON'T THINK IT'S THE RIGHT LOCATION.

AND THEY WERE VERY ADAMANT AND PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO DO IS DEFINITELY WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IN TERMS OF ENTERTAINMENT.

JUST WRONG LOCATION.

SO I'M NOT EVEN CONTINUE.

I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW.

IMPROVING THE GOLF COURSE MAKE IT MORE BEAUTIFUL.

I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THAT CONCEPT.

I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS CONCEPT.

CONCEPT ONE LET ME, LET ME.

I DIDN'T SEE PICTURES OF CONCEPT.

YOU DIDN'T SHOW ME A LOCATION FOR CONCEPT ONE.

IT'S THE EXISTING LOCATION.

SO IT'S THE THERE'S NO OVERHEAD OF IT, BUT IT'S TAKING THE EXISTING 18 HOLE LAYOUT AND JUST RENOVATING IT TO UPGRADE THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WHY ARE YOU TAKING IT WEST INTO THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF THE GOLF COURSE? WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT MORE BY WAY, YOU HAVE THE RESTAURANT AND THOSE PLACES SO THE ACTIVITY CAN BE CLOSE TO THE HOTEL AND CLOSE TO THE RESTAURANT.

WHY ARE YOU GOING BACK TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY SPACE? OKAY. IT'S IT'S. YEAH.

AND CAN'T YOU CREATE A GOLFING EXPERIENCE CLOSER TO, TO TO THE RESTAURANT.

THERE'S THERE'S LAND AROUND THERE.

I SAW THAT WAS THIS NEW GOLF CONCEPT OPEN IN DELRAY.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME. I SAVED IT IN ONE OF MY ARTICLES.

IT'S LIKE A RESTAURANT WHERE PEOPLE GO INTO MINIATURE GOLFING.

IT'S PART OF A RESTAURANT.

AND THEY ADDED THESE ADDITIONAL FEATURES.

SO I WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I THOUGHT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADD, PERHAPS TO THE VIEW IN THAT AREA AS OPPOSED TO GOING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR CREATING MORE ACTIVITIES.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR GENERATING MORE REVENUES IN TERMS OF BEING THE FACT THAT WE AS A CITY OWNED COLONY WEST, AND WE WANT IT TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT AND WE WANT IT TO PAY FOR ITSELF. BUT I JUST DON'T SUPPORT IT.

BEING IN A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, I THINK WE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE AND PUT THE ACTIVITY MORE TOWARDS THE RESTAURANT AND PERHAPS SCALING AN ACTIVITY.

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SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, LOOK AT THAT CONCEPT.

I THINK THAT HAVE SOME PLACE IN DELRAY, A NEW POP STROKE, I THINK.

YES, YES, YOU'RE THE VETERAN.

YOU'RE YOU'RE. YEP, YEP.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POP STROKE AS A RESTAURANT CONCEPT AND TOPGOLF, THIS CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

SO TOP GOLF, TOP TRACER IS A DRIVING RANGE EXPERIENCE, WHEREAS POP STROKE IS A I'LL SAY, BEEFED UP MINIATURE GOLF TYPE OF EXPERIENCE.

SO THE THE POP STROKE WOULD LIKELY GO ON A SMALLER FOOTPRINT IN TERMS OF, OF ACREAGE OR SIZE, LAND THAT YOU WOULD NEED.

SO SO SO AND THAT'S EXACTLY MY QUESTION.

POP STROKE CAN FIT MORE NEXT TO THE VIEW RESTAURANT ON THAT SIDE.

WHAT WITHIN A CONCEPT LIKE THAT, MORE FIT INTO THAT SECTION OF THE GOLF COURSE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF OF CONVERSATION, NOT SPECIFICALLY POP STROKE, BUT ADDING SOME SORT OF EITHER DRIVING RAINS OR SHORT GAME FACILITY OR ADDITIONAL FACILITIES.

AND IT COMES DOWN TO, TO SPACE.

SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT RENOVATING THE CHAMPS COURSE AND REROUTING THAT IN SOME FASHION. SO LOOKING AT REDESIGNING THE CHAMPS COURSE IN ORDER TO FIND SPACE WHERE YOU COULD DO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A DRIVING RANGE OR A POP STROKE OR OTHER TYPE OF AMENITY OVER IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE'S THERE'S NOT JUST NOT THE SPACE.

AND WE EVEN LOOKED AT HOLE NUMBER ONE, YOU COULD SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, CONVERT THAT INTO A PAR FOUR AND THEN UTILIZE THAT SPACE FROM THE CLUBHOUSE UP TO SAY, YOU KNOW, 300 YARDS OUT.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE CONCEPTS, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE FURTHER.

I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE LOTS OF OPINIONS ON THAT AS WELL IF WE START TO CHANGE THE, THE DESIGN OF THE CHAMPS COURSE, ALSO WHAT POTENTIAL REVENUE IMPACTS MAY HAVE MAY THAT HAVE.

SO IF YOU'RE SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGING THE CHAMPS COURSE, WOULD THAT THEN NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR ABILITY TO GENERATE REVENUE ON THE COURSE.

SOMETHING THAT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED.

AND I UNDERSTAND.

PERHAPS IF I DIDN'T MENTION POP STROKE, THAT WASN'T AN IDEA THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT OF.

BUT THE FACT THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THIS EXPERIENCE BEHIND THEIR HOME.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE OR TRYING TO NOT BE ACCOMMODATING TO THE VISION THAT YOU HAVE.

I'M TRYING TO HAVE US TO THINK CREATIVELY AS A GROUP AND LOOK AT OPTIONS WHERE WE CAN KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY HAPPY, BUT ALSO HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT THAT WE NEED FOR FAMILIES AND INCREASE REVENUES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

SO I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS, BECAUSE I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH ON THIS GOLF CONCEPT, HENCE THE REASON POP STROKE.

AND WHEN I READ SOMETHING, I WILL SAVE IT IF IT'S AFFILIATED TO ANYTHING I DO IN CITY GOVERNMENT OR WITH MY RESIDENTS, I MAKE SURE I SAVE IT AND I CAN DOUBLE BACK.

SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT TO ACHIEVE THAT.

BUT THOSE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THIS EXPERIENCE IN THEIR BACKYARD.

AND WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE WERE, WHEN WE WERE FIGHTING FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND WE SAID, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPMENT, I SAID IT THEN, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THE BULLDOZERS THAT GO THERE TO GET ON A BILL OR PARKING LOT OR DO WHATEVER, I WOULD BE THERE LIKE MOHAMMED GHANI, AND I WOULD BE THERE PROTESTING TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING IS NOT THERE. I'VE NEVER BEEN ARRESTED IN MY LIFE AND WELL, FOR MY RESIDENTS AND FIGHTING FOR THE PEOPLE, I, I WILL, I WILL DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER BEEN ARRESTED IN MY LIFE.

SO IF I HAVE TO DO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING GOES THERE, I WILL BE THERE.

AND I'M JUST BEING OPEN AND CANDID AND LETTING YOU KNOW.

AND THAT'S THOSE ARE MY POINTS.

SURE. AND JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SUGGESTING LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT AREA FOR THE TOP GOLF CONCEPT IDEA AS FAR AS THE GLADES COURSE, ARE YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING WHAT IS THERE BUT UPGRADING THE IRRIGATION SO THAT WE DO HAVE THAT PLAYABLE FIELD FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT CURRENTLY LIVE THERE? YEAH, I THINK MAKING IT BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW IN TERMS OF THE IRRIGATION, THE GREENERY, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

PEOPLE PAID FOR GOLF COURSE, THEY PAID FOR THE BEAUTIFUL GREENERY, SEEING THE 18 HOLE.

THEY WANT TO LOOK OUT THEIR BACK OF BACK OF THEIR YARD AND SEE AUGUSTA.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE AND THAT'S WHAT THEY PAID FOR.

I DON'T THINK THEY PAID FOR A TOP GOLF EXPERIENCE.

TOP GOLF IS BIG NETS.

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IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BEAUTY OF THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THOSE ARE NOT MY FEELINGS.

THOSE ARE THE FEELINGS OF 100 RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT WHEN WE WERE CONTEMPLATING DOING THIS A FEW MONTHS AGO.

SO I AM NOT TALKING FROM HOW I FEEL.

I'M TALKING FROM BEING A VOICE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

BUT AGAIN, I KNOW WE WANT TO CREATE THIS EXPERIENCE.

WE WANT THE FAMILY EXPERIENCE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE CAN TRY DIFFERENT THINGS AND TRY DIFFERENT CONCEPTS WHERE WE CAN BRING THAT EXPERIENCE.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE CHAMPIONSHIP COURSE, BECAUSE I FREQUENT THE RESTAURANT AND I SEE THE TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL GOLFERS THAT COME, COME TO PLAY AT THE COURSE. A FRIEND OF MINE TOLD ME BACK IN 1996, TIME MAGAZINE RANKED COLONY AS WAS ONE OF THE TOP 25 GOLF COURSES IN AMERICA.

SO IT'S A PLACE THAT HAS HAS PRESTIGE IN TERMS OF GOLFERS, AND I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT.

BUT WE JUST GOT TO, YOU KNOW, FIND DIFFERENT WAYS OF MAKING THAT HAPPEN WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE TO THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE WEST OF PINE ISLAND, COLONY WEST ESTATES, PLUM HARBOR, PLUM BAY WESTWOOD, THOSE COMMUNITIES, THEY THEY DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH THAT EXPERIENCE.

THEY PAID FOR A GOLF COURSE AND THEY WANT TO KEEP THAT GOLF COURSE LOOKING PRISTINE.

AND LIKE I SAID, LIKE LIKE THE 18TH HOLE THAT AUGUSTA IN GEORGIA, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE WHEN THEY LOOK OUT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR BACKYARD.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

JUST GOING TO THROW THINGS OUT THERE.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I REALLY LOVE THE CONCEPT.

DEFINITELY GOES TOWARDS THE FAMILY EXPERIENCE.

THE TRAFFIC IS LOW ENOUGH TO GET PEOPLE IN.

WE KNOW IT'S HOW MANY HOW MANY PLAYERS CAN PLAY, HOW WIDE.

OH IN TERMS OF IT'S, I BELIEVE, 200.

LET ME CONFIRM MY NOTES HERE.

I BELIEVE IT'S 200FT ACROSS, TYPICALLY ON A TEE.

YOU WOULD SET UP TOP TRACER BAYS TEN FEET APART SO YOU COULD FIT IN 20 BAYS THERE, OR YOU COULD SPLIT IT UP AND SAY, DO TEN TOP TRACER BAYS AND THEN HAVE THE OTHER 100FT WERE JUST FOR NORMAL RANGE USAGE FOR PEOPLE HITTING RANGE BALLS.

SO YOU COULD WE'VE DONE IT BOTH WAYS AND DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION TYPICALLY IS HOW LONG AN HOUR OR TWO.

YOU TYPICALLY RENT IT OUT FOR AN HOUR AT A TIME FOR THE TOP TRACER FACILITY.

SO ABOUT 20 PARTIES PER SE CAN GO AND PLAY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES? MORE OR LESS.

THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED.

THAT WOULD BE TO DETERMINE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR TO TO LOOK INTO.

AND IT'S NOT TWO OR MORE FLOORS.

THIS IS A ONE FLOOR DEAL.

CORRECT. SO OPTION ONE IS $5 MILLION, I THINK. EVEN SPENDING THAT TYPE OF MONEY WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING.

THAT'S GOING TO ONE INCREASE REVENUE TO INCREASE THE LIVELIHOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE ADDRESSED THIS SCENARIO WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK PERHAPS GOING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WILL HELP SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK.

BECAUSE THIS IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT THAN BUILDING HOMES.

I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T MIND HAVING THIS IN MY BACKYARD.

IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT I SEE NOW, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE PLAYED ON THAT COURSE.

SPENDING $5 MILLION TO DO THE RENOVATIONS ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING.

WE ALREADY HAVE 118 ON CHAMPIONS COURSE.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S REALLY GETS USED.

I ALWAYS CALL IT EXECUTIVE COURSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY. GLADES COURSE.

THAT'S THE OVER.

YOU KNOW, THEY PUT PEOPLE THAT THAT KIND OF JUST DON'T REALLY PLAY.

THEY JUST. IT'S TERRIBLE.

THE LAYOUT IS TERRIBLE.

WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO A COUPLE OF HOLES, YOU'RE LITERALLY BEHIND PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.

HOLES SEVEN, EIGHT.

NINE. TEN.

13. 14.

ONE OF THE WORST HOLES.

SO. I THINK PERHAPS GOING TO THE COMMUNITY AND SELLING THIS IDEA WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL.

AND EVEN I WOULD SAY TO THE POINT THAT IT WOULD INCREASE THE HOME VALUES IN THAT AREA.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VALUABLE.

THERE'S VALUE IN IT WHEN APPRAISERS LOOK INTO THE AREA.

SO THAT'S MY OPINION ON THAT.

IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO GIVE COMPETITION TO TOPGOLF.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANY CITY EVEN HAS SOMETHING REMOTELY LIKE THIS NEAR US.

AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HEAVY TRAFFIC.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BURDEN KNOB HILL.

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I DON'T BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY BEHIND OPERATION HOURS.

LIGHTING. YEAH.

THAT'S NOT CONTEMPLATED IN THIS.

SO THIS, THIS CONCEPT AS IT IS NOW WOULD BE DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS AND NOT ANYTHING AFTER HOURS AFTER DARK.

OKAY. NOW.

YOU COULD IF YOU WANTED TO.

I THINK YOU WOULD RUN INTO PROBABLY SOME JUST WITH THE PROXIMITY FOR THE HOMES YOU WOULD RUN INTO SOME.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS MY POINT, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THE NIGHTTIME WHERE IT'S AFFECTING NOW THE BACKYARDS OF PEOPLE.

CORRECT. YOU KNOW.

WHAT WILL YOU DO TO AVOID RESIDENTS COMING THROUGH THEIR BACKYARDS INTO THE COURSE? IS THAT GOING TO BE HEDGED WALLED? THE. SO WITH THE.

IF LOOKING AT THE PALM BAY AREA.

YEAH, LOOKING AT THE TOP TRACER.

CONCEPT THOUGH, THE NETTING THAT WOULD BE AROUND IT WOULD BE 100FT TALL.

SO THAT WOULD CREATE A NATURAL BARRIER BECAUSE OF THE NETTING FROM PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO ACCESS IT FROM FROM THEIR HOMES, THE OTHER AREAS, IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO ON THE CHAMPS COURSE CURRENTLY WHERE WE WOULD HAVE RANGERS THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE.

EVEN IF YOU PUT UP HEDGE LINES THAT'S NOT REALLY A DETERRENT, UNFORTUNATELY.

SO IT'S IT'S A CONSTANT BATTLE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S LIKELY TO CONTINUE.

AND ANYTIME YOU HAVE A GOLF COURSE THAT RUNS THROUGH RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO MANAGE AND, AND DEAL WITH.

MAYOR. MAY, MAY I REMIND THE COMMISSION SOMETHING THAT THIS IS A COMPLETELY CONCEPTUAL CONVERSATION.

SO WE'RE WE'RE PROVIDING OPTIONS, ALTERNATIVES.

ONE IS TO FIX THE GRASS IN THE GOLF COURSE, AS IS IN THE OTHER.

ONE IS DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES WITH SOME, SOME GOLF RELATED AMENITIES.

SO NONE OF THOSE DETAILS HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT OR THOUGHT ABOUT OR YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THE CONVERSATION.

SO IT'S COMPLETELY CONCEPTUAL.

IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE COULD GO BACK AND THEN COME BACK WITH A MORE DETAILED APPROACH AND YOU KNOW, BETTER SET OF INFORMATION. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER.

AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. I CAN SEE IT.

THAT'S NOT.

SO A QUICK QUESTION.

TEACHING TEA? YEAH. SO THIS AREA HERE.

ALL THAT FOLIAGE.

IS THERE SOMETHING? WELL OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOTHING.

CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? DRIVING ON THAT STREET THERE, IT'S JUST TERRIBLE.

WHEN YOU DRIVE BY IT.

JUST FYI.

JUST THE LANDSCAPE IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH, YEAH. THE ESTHETICS OF.

OKAY. YEAH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ISSUES WITH BUT PEOPLE GOING VISITING THAT AREA.

I THINK DOING ANYTHING TO THE CHAMPIONS CAUSE WILL DEFINITELY HURT BUSINESS.

I CAN ALMOST SAY THAT WITH CERTAINTY.

JUST BECAUSE OF THE THE COURSE ITSELF.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

IT GETS USED.

WE ALREADY INVESTED A LOT INTO IT.

A LOT OF CHAMPIONSHIPS GO ON AT THE CHAMPIONS COURSE.

SO I BELIEVE TOUCHING THE CHAMPIONS COURSE ON ANY IN ANY AREA WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.

BUT ALSO, YOU CAN'T EVEN REACH IT UNLESS YOU'RE TOUCHING THE PINE ISLAND AREA.

SO UNLESS IF WE DO THIS CONCEPT ON THE FAR EAST OF IT.

YOU NEED DRIVERS GOING THROUGH EVERYONE GOLFING TO END THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST LAND THAT WE HAVE CLOSER TO PINE ISLAND WE HAVE.

SMALLER POCKETS OF GOLF AREAS.

SO I BELIEVE TOUCHING THE CHAMPIONS COURSE I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT.

FOR OPTION TWO.

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THE CORAL SPRINGS INDOOR GOLFING AREA? IT'S LIKE A IT'S IT'S A VIRTUAL GOLFING.

NETTING TYPE OF THING.

YOU ACTUALLY CAN WHACK IT AS HARD AS YOU CAN AND NOTHING HAPPENS.

SO MAYBE IF OPTION TWO IS AN OPTION TO LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE INDOORS, LET'S SAY YOU TAKE YOUR GRANDMA OR GRANDPA.

THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE SUN.

THEY CAN BE INSIDE PLANE.

I THINK AND STOP WITH MY THANKS.

THAT'S ODD. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. SO YOU KNOW THAT AREA THAT HE JUST TALKED COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS JUST TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THE TREES.

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SO THAT'S WITHOUT ANY REPAIRS.

THAT'S MY ONE ASK.

THERE IS NO SECRET I AM SUPPORTIVE OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE OPTION TWO.

OPTION ONE AT THIS DAY AND AGE.

IS BORING AND PLAYED THE WHOLE PURPOSE.

WHEN WE PURCHASE COLONY WEST TWO HOLE GOLF COURSE WAS TO REVITALIZE THE GLEASON COURSE.

NICHOLAS COURSE, BRING IT BACK TO THE STELLAR ONCE IT ONCE WAS, AND BRING IN PEOPLE TO MAKE THIS THE ATTRACTION, NOT TO DESTROY IT BY TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS, TO BRING IT MORE EAST.

FORGIVE ME GOLFERS AND FORGIVE ME RESIDENTS, BUT YOU MOVED TO THE GOLF COURSE.

YOU DID NOT BUY THAT GOLF COURSE.

YOU DID NOT BUY THAT VIEW.

AND I LOVE PLUM BAY.

PLUM HARBOR. THEY KNOW THEY HAVE MY HEART.

THEY ALWAYS HAVE. AND THE RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH.

IT'S NOT A MATTER FOR THEM TO SAY, DON'T DO THIS NOW.

WE'VE ALWAYS SAID TO THEM, WE WILL PROTECT IT AS GOLF.

I KNOW WHEN I SPOKE WITH THEM, I'M NOT SURE.

OBVIOUSLY I WAS AT A DIFFERENT MEETING THAN COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT. THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF DOING SOMETHING.

AS LONG AS IT WAS GOLF.

EVERYTHING BEING PRESENTED IS GOLF.

SO IF YOU'RE KEEPING IT TO CERTAIN HOURS AND IT HAS NOT EVEN BEEN OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE, TO GET THEIR COMMENTS INTO WHY, IN MY OPINION. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CAKE THAT WE TRY TO BREAK IN BAKE IN THIS CITY.

I DON'T LIKE SAYING NO UNTIL SUCH TIME.

WE ACTUALLY EXPLORE THE OPTIONS AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT IS GOOD, NOT GOOD, WHAT IS USABLE AND NOT USABLE.

I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT THE FOOD ON THE COURSE WOULD BE JUST SOME WHAT WE FONDLY REFER TO, AND BUT WE EVEN HAD CITY AND WE HAVE SEATING THERE.

BUT WE CALLED IT TO THE HALFWAY HOUSE WAS WHAT WE USE IN THE WOODLANDS WAS THE SMALLER CLUBHOUSE WE WENT IN.

BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAD SEATS. YOU CAN SIT THERE.

WHY ARE WE NOT DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER. THESE ARE ALL CONCEPTS FOR WHY, IF WE BRING IT OUT, THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE CONTINUED CONVERSATION BECAUSE THERE IS ROOM, WE COULD DO IT SOMEWHERE ON NOB HILL THAT IT WOULD BE NOT IN.

THE BACKYARD NECESSARILY, OR FIGURE OUT A BETTER LOCATION ON THE COURSE TO.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A RAGER, YOU KNOW HAPPENING NIGHT PLACE, BUT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE FUN.

I LOVE COLONY WEST.

I LOVE THE VIEW. YOU KNOW, I GO THERE, IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE EXPECTED.

ELEGANT SIDE. THIS IS WHERE YOU GO IN.

YOU'RE GOING IN YOUR T SHIRT AND YOUR SHORTS AND YOUR SNEAKERS, AND YOU DON'T CARE IF YOUR CLEATS HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR GOLF SHOES HAVE ANY DIRT ON IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING INTO A MORE CASUAL LOCATION TO ENJOY.

THE PURPOSE WAS TO TO BE BRINGING.

THE OTHER TYPE OF GOLFER HERE IT WAS TO ACTIVATE OUR CITY, BE THE DESTINATION IN OUR CITY AND TO JUST RENOVATE.

UNDER ACTION. ONE IS NOT DOING THAT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING IT'LL BRING IN SOME MORE GOLFERS.

BUT IS IT BRINGING THE EXCITEMENT? NO. IS IT BRINGING THE SPOUSES AND THE CHILDREN OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO VISIT WHEN THEY'RE PLAYING IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP COURSE, GIVING THEM SOMETHING TO DO? NO, THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER TO POMPANO AND THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY THAT TOP GOLF.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT HAS NOW PUTT PUTT IN ONE OF OUR OTHER CITIES THAT ARE DOING THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO ACTUALLY DO IT AND TALK TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT WILL BRING IT IN.

THE DOLLAR SIGNS YOU SEE ABOVE THE OUTLAY.

WE'LL BE REIMBURSED, JUST LIKE THE OUTLAY OF BUYING THE GOLF COURSE AT 3.3 AT A SHORT SALE AND PUTTING THE MONEY IN AND INVESTING.

IT'S BECOMING A GREAT RATE OF RETURN IN AND OF ITSELF.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY WE HAVE WALKING.

DID PEOPLE SAY TO YOU WE WANT A WALKING PAR OF THE COURSE? THE WALKING IS THE SHORT COURSE.

SO TYPICALLY THOSE ARE GOING TO BE SET UP WITH HOLES THAT ARE CALL IT 40 TO 70 YARDS.

SO IT'S TAILORED TOWARDS A WALKING COURSE AS OPPOSED TO A COURSE.

I MEAN YOU COULD CERTAINLY TAKE A CART THERE, BUT IT WOULD BE GEARED TOWARDS A WALKING.

SO YOU COULD GO OUT THERE, SAY WITH A, A FAMILY WITH SMALL KIDS AND WALK THE SHORT SIX HOLE LOOP.

YEAH. OKAY.

I JUST WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I SUGGESTED OR ASKED FOR A PAR THREE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS YOUR PAR THREE, BUT IT IS ESSENTIALLY.

YEAH, ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE PAR THREE HOLES, THE SHORT COURSE.

SO NONE OF THOSE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PAR FOR LENGTH.

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FLIP. I SEE IT'S SHORTER THERE, BUT IF WE DO A VIRTUAL TYPE THING AS COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS WAS SAYING, ONE OF THE INTERACTIVE BAR RESTAURANTS.

GOLF PLACES.

THAT IS STILL WITHIN WHAT WE TOLD THE RESIDENTS WHEN THEY CAME FORTH THAT DEALS WITH GOLF.

IS THAT 19TH HOLE? IS THERE A WAY TO MODIFY AND STILL GIVE US? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A DRIVING RANGE IN THE CITY.

EVERYBODY HAS ASKED FOR A DRIVING RANGE.

IT IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT.

IT IS WHAT GOLFERS DO DESIRE.

THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT THIS, THAT LIVE ALONG THE SAME PATH OF THE GLADES, THAT WANT TO SEE SOME REVITALIZATION.

I'M. OBVIOUSLY I'M IN FAVOR OF OPTION TWO IN SOME FORM OR FASHION.

MAYBE IT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OUTREACH NOW THAT IF WE GO FORWARD, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR OPTION TWO, TO GET SOME MORE COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ON WHAT FITS, AND THEN YOU AS A PROFESSIONALS KNOW WHAT FITS BETTER.

BUT. I CAN'T.

SAY THAT. I THINK THAT OPTION NUMBER ONE IS EXCITING.

AT ALL, AND I AM DEFINITELY NOT IN SUPPORT OF DESTROYING THE CHAMPIONSHIP COURSE, WHICH WE'VE BEEN SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY TO MAKE IT BETTER, TO WHY PEOPLE ARE PLAYING MORE GOLF, AND TO WHY IT'S BRINGING IN THAT RATE OF RETURN AND BRINGING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE VIEW AND BRINGING THEM INTO THE CITY.

I CAN'T SEE SUPPORTING THAT.

OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED FOR ENTERTAINMENT.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR FOOD.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ALIVE.

AND I THINK KEEPING THE GOLF THEME AND MAKING SURE IT IS GOLF AND PROTECTS THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE, WHETHER IT'S TREES, WHETHER IT'S NETTING, WHETHER IT'S MAKING SURE THAT THE SOUND ALL THINGS THAT WOULD GO THROUGH IF THE CONCEPT IS THOUGHT OUT MORE, WHICH CAN THEN ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS THERE BEFORE A FLAT OUT NO. SO THOSE ARE MY $0.02.

COMMISSIONER DANIEL, YOU HAD YOUR CARD FLIPPED.

THANK YOU. I DO, I DO REMEMBER THE MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS, AND I DO WANT TO SUPPORT COMMISSIONER.

RIGHT. BUT WHATEVER HE THINKS HIS RESIDENTS NEEDS ARE.

AND I DID SPEAK TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, AND THEY DID.

MY TAKE BACK FROM WHAT THEY SAID WAS BECAUSE MY QUESTION WAS MY TAKE BACK FROM WHAT THEY SAID WAS THEY WANT GREENERY.

THEY DON'T. AND MY QUESTION TO THAT WAS, WELL, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FUND THAT GREENERY? RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP THROWING MONEY AT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T BRING IN REVENUE.

AND THEY WERE OPEN.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THEY WERE OPEN TO ANYTHING THAT WILL MAINTAIN THE GREENERY AND STILL BRING IN REVENUE.

THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. BUT YOU SPEAK TO THEM MORE, SO YOU OBVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE MORE INPUT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS OKAY WITH SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF CONCEPT TWO.

BECAUSE CURRENTLY, WHAT TYPE OF RANDOM VIEW DOES IT BRING IN TO OFFSET THIS $4 MILLION? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I SHOULD HAVE TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

BUT CURRENTLY THE GLADES AND ITS EXISTING CONDITION EXISTING STATE ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 38% OF THE ROUNDS OF GOLF PLAYED AT COLONY WEST ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WHICH IS ABOUT 29,000 ROUNDS.

AND IT ACCOUNTS FOR 27% OF THE GREEN AND CART FEE REVENUE FOR COLONY WEST IN TOTAL, WHICH IS ABOUT $675,000 IN REVENUE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

SO IT IS A POPULAR GOLF COURSE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SEASON.

WE DO HAVE SEVERAL LEAGUES THAT PLAY OUT THERE ON A DAILY BASIS.

IT'S IT'S IT IS VERY BUSY.

YOU ARE SPEAKING AS A THAT'S THAT'S AS IS NUMBERS.

YES. CORRECT.

SO CURRENTLY THIS YEAR, WE'RE FORECASTING TO PLAY JUST OVER 77,000 ROUNDS IN TOTAL AT COLONY WEST FOR THE 36 HOLES, AND AGAIN ABOUT 29,000 OF THOSE.

OKAY. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT CONVERTS TO MONEY.

SO WHAT'S THE AVERAGE COST OF A ROUND? 77,000 POUNDS AVERAGE.

SO OUR TOTAL I DON'T HAVE IT DOWN.

SO OUR TOTAL GREEN AND CART FEE REVENUE FORECAST IS $2.5 MILLION THIS YEAR.

AND ALL 36 HOLES, THE CHAMPS AND THE GLADES TOGETHER WERE FORECASTING JUST OVER 77,000 ROUNDS OF GOLF.

IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE GLADES, WE'RE FORECASTING ABOUT 29,000 ROUNDS OF GOLF AND 679,000 OR 675,000 AND GREEN AND CARD FEE REVENUE.

SO I COULD DO THE APRIL REAL QUICK FOR YOU, BUT YEAH, PLEASE.

BECAUSE I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT IT.

YEAH. AND APRIL IS AVERAGE RATE PER ROUND.

NO NO NO NOT APRIL. BUT WHAT IS THE REVENUE.

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AND WE THROW IN, IN FORM ALMOST 4 MILLION OR POSSIBLY MORE.

YEAH, DEPENDING ON DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS.

OKAY. NEXT QUESTION.

LOOKING AT CONCEPT TWO.

IF WE MOVE IT TO THE EAST SIDE.

WHAT? I MEAN, THERE'S NO EAST SIDE, BUT IF WE MOVE IT TO PINE ISLAND.

RIGHT. WHAT MAKES THOSE RESIDENTS DIFFERENT FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT'S BEING EFFECTIVE IN PALM? YEAH. I'M NOT SAYING MOVE.

I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT SAYING MOVING IT, MOVING THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT TO EAST.

I'M SAYING WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ENCOMPASSES THE FAMILY ORIENTED ACTIVITIES THAT WE WANT.

AND HE MENTIONED HE CLARIFIED THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IN DELRAY THAT'S DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR WHERE IT'S A RESTAURANT.

SO THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF ENTERTAINMENT AND SOMETHING MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY.

I'M SAYING LET'S OPEN OUR MIND TO THAT CONCEPT IN TERMS OF GENERATING REVENUE.

SO I KNOW IT CAN'T NECESSARILY GO TO THE EAST SIDE, THIS SPECIFIC DRIVING RANGE, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SPACE.

AND SO WHY WOULD WE.

MY QUESTION IS THERE THERE RESIDENTS EVERYWHERE, WHY WOULD THOSE RESIDENTS NOT FEEL THE SAME IMPACT AS A PALM BAY? I AM NOT SAYING THEY'RE TRYING TO DO A DRIVING RANGE WHERE YOU HAVE A HUGE FENCE THAT'S BEHIND A BIG, TALL FENCE.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PARKING LOT, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A PARKING LOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I CAN TELL YOU, WOODMONT, WITH A COMPLAINT OF THOSE GOLF BALLS IS RIDICULOUS.

JUST. AND THE THE OWNERS OF THE UNLESS THEY SPOT WHO DID THE GOLF BALL, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE.

YES. SO CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR.

SO THAT THING MIGHT BE ACTUALLY A BENEFIT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL LOOK GOOD THOUGH.

THAT'S. NO, I'M SAYING THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

THE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A TOP GOLF THAT'S GONNA HAVE A BIG FENCE, WHICH IS WHAT THEY DON'T WANT.

GOLF ACTIVITY ALREADY HAPPENS.

THEY PLAY GOLF, THEY HIT THE BALL.

THEY DO WHATEVER THEY DO ON THE REGULAR GOLF COURSE.

THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. THE GOLF BALLS ARE.

BUT MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS DON'T GOLF.

ABSOLUTELY. AND A CITY LAND.

SO HOW CAN WE MAKE IT MORE? GO BACK THIS WAY. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.

GO BACK HERE. NO.

OKAY. NO, NO. OH, OKAY.

SO. SO 600 AND SOMETHING I GOT OUT, MAYBE HE ANSWERED BECAUSE I WAS ASKING WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN MOVING IT TO PINE ISLAND? AND HE'S SAYING, OKAY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE FENCE COULD BE ON PINE ISLAND ITSELF, THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? BECAUSE THEN IT WOULDN'T HAVE.

I'M SAYING WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSAL THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, A TOP GOAL SIMILARITY IS GOING TO HAVE A IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO TOP GOLF, THERE'S A BIG FENCE.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO IF YOU LOOK ALONG THIS PLUM BAY AND PLUM HARBOR, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG, UGLY FENCE ON BOTH SIDES, WHICH I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF.

I KNOW WE CAN'T TAKE THIS CONCEPT AND MOVE IT TO THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE IT PROBABLY COULD.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN. IT'S A CONCEPT.

NO, I'M NOT SURE.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S A CHAMPIONSHIP GOAL COURSE WHERE CURRENTLY NOW WE MAKE MONEY FROM REGULAR GOLFERS GOING THERE.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO DO THIS IS TRYING TO GET MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOLFERS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

AND I MENTIONED THE RESTAURANT IN DELRAY, WHICH IS A LOT SMALLER AND HAS THE SAME EXPERIENCE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AMATEUR GOLFERS AND FAMILIES WHO ARE TRYING TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE. BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE A RESTAURANT.

I JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I SAW THIS AS A SMALLER SCALE OPTION THAT'S TRYING TO SOLVE THE BIG PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.

THE THING I DON'T LIKE ABOUT THIS ACTIVITY.

YOU'RE GOING TO BILL A PARKING LOT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BIG FENCES BEHIND OF THE PLUM BAY AND PLUM HARBOR AND THOSE HOMES.

THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE.

IT'S. YES, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE GOLF ACTIVITY WHERE WHERE BALLS COME INTO THEIR HOME.

BUT PUTTING A HUGE FENCE, THAT'S HOW TALL IS THE HOW TALL WOULD THE FENCE BE FOR LIKE ONE OF THOSE.

AND SO IT WOULD BE NETTING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE ON A BASEBALL FIELD.

SO YOU'D HAVE THE NETTING WOULD WE WOULD NEED TO DO STUDIES TO DETERMINE THEY WILL DO STUDIES TO DETERMINE THE ANGLE AND DISTANCE THEY'RE HITTING IT, AND HOW HIGH THEY NEED TO BE TO MAKE SURE BALLS AREN'T GOING OUT.

BUT THEY WOULD LIKELY BE UP AROUND 100FT TALL.

IS MY EXPERIENCE ON THAT.

SO YOU EITHER HAVE WOODEN OR METAL POLES WITH THE, THE MESH NETTING IN BETWEEN THE POLES.

OKAY, SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A FRACTION.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE OTHER SIDE WHERE YOU SEE THE ONE, THE 16 TO 18 AND THE 17? NOTHING. IF YOU COULD GO FORWARD A COUPLE SLIDES SO THAT WOULD WE WOULD KEEP WE WOULD CONVERT THAT INTO A NINE HOLE LAYOUT.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT IT'S KIND OF LIGHT, BUT IT, IT'S STATES E123.

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YOU CAN ADD IN A DRIVING RANGE WITH SOME TECHNOLOGY AND CREATE A SHORT COURSE.

SO CONCEPTUALLY AND SPATIALLY IT IT WORKS OUT PRETTY GOOD.

WHAT COULD THE.

OKAY, I GOT YOU SO NINE HOLE HERE A WALK THING HERE.

DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALLED IT.

YEAH, SURE. AND THE TOP, TOP TRACER AND DRIVING RANGE RIGHT IN THE CENTER RIGHT HERE.

CAN THAT BE MOVED TOWARDS THE STREET ON NOB HILL WHERE THE FENCING WILL NOT, BECAUSE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I SPOKE TO, BECAUSE I WAS ONE THAT VOTED FOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER MAKING THIS BUT SAID THEY WOULDN'T EVEN MIND A PARK.

BUT TO ME, IF YOU HAVE A PARK, YOU HAVE FENCING.

SO I DON'T SEE WHY.

YEAH, WE LOOKED AT THAT AREA AND IT JUST WASN'T WIDE ENOUGH IN ORDER TO.

IT LOOKS WIDER THAN WHAT YOU YOU I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THE DIMENSION.

YEAH. WHERE, WHERE IT SAYS W145.

YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THAT AREA IN TERMS OF SPACE AND WIDTH.

LENGTH. IT'S, IT'S LONG ENOUGH.

BUT IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO FIT IN THE NUMBER OF, OF THE SIZE T THEN WHERE IT SAYS OKAY.

FIVE, THEN YOU HAVE.

IS THAT WATER OR IS THAT A CLUBHOUSE? YEAH. WHAT IS THAT? CLUBHOUSE? YEP.

SO WHAT ABOUT THERE? THAT LOOKS VERY WIDE.

SO YOU.

GENERALLY WOULDN'T WANT A DRIVING RANGE THAT GETS NARROWER AS YOU GO OUT JUST BECAUSE OF THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE BALLS GOING OUT OF THE RANGE.

SO AGAIN, I THINK WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS AND WE WE WORKED WITH OUR IN-HOUSE ARCHITECT AND LOOKED AT WIDTHS AND WHAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR IT, THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY AREA THAT WE IDENTIFIED ANYWHERE ON THE GLADES COURSE WEST, AND THAT WAS AN ISLAND, THE ONLY OPTION FOR THAT CONCEPT AND LAYOUT.

I MEAN, YOU COULD WE DID NOT FEEL THAT THAT AREA WAS WIDE ENOUGH TO PUT IN A USABLE DRIVING RANGE.

AND YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A CLUBHOUSE HERE.

YES. SO LET ME JUST CLARIFY.

SO ARE YOU SAYING TAKING IT AND JUST SHIFTING IT.

YEAH. LIKE TAKING THE WHOLE THING AND SHIFTING IT THAT WAY OR ROTATING IT WHICHEVER WAY TO MAKE THE RESIDENTS MORE HAPPY.

RIGHT. DOG LEG. YEAH.

SO AGAIN SHIFTING IT SO THAT IT'S GOING NORTH AND SOUTH THERE ALONG NOB HILL ROAD, WE LOOKED AT THAT AREA AND DIDN'T FEEL THAT IT WAS WIDE ENOUGH IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN THAT SPACE.

IF YOU SHIFTED IT OVER TO WHERE IT SAYS WHERE THE CLUBHOUSE IS, REMEMBER? IS IT WHAT CLUBHOUSE IS THAT A PROPOSED? IT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE IT'S POINTING TO, IT'S THE LITTLE BOX.

YEAH. THERE'S NO CLUBHOUSE THERE.

NO, NO, THAT THIS THIS WOULD BE ADDED SO THINGS CAN MOVE IN THIS BODY RIGHT HERE.

SUBJECT TO. I'M LOOKING AT I'M LIKE, DON'T TOUCH THE DRAINAGE, BUT.

JUST THERE'S NO CLUBHOUSE PHYSICALLY THERE.

THIS IS RIGHT.

THIS IS ALL STILL CONCEPTUAL, BUT THE WATER IS THE ONLY PART THAT IS ACTUALLY STILL THERE.

AND WATER IS A LASER POINTER THAT WATER STAYS WHERE WATER IS.

I GOT IT SO THAT JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO WATER CAN'T MOVE WATER SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WATER HAS TO STAY THERE. I DON'T KNOW I'M JUST I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T, BUT I'M WATCHING.

NO. BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT THE WHOLE PRACTICE LEARNING GOLF THING.

BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT PRECEDENCE IS TRYING TO GET THE RESIDENTS TO BE HAPPY WITH THEIR HOME AND WHAT THEY SEE.

IS IT WORKING? YEAH.

SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AND I CAN ONLY ZOOM BEHIND YOU, I APOLOGIZE.

SO WE LOOKED AT DOING A RAIN, YOU KNOW, FLIPPING THE RANGE AND DOING IT IN THIS AREA HERE.

BUT IT WAS NOT.

THIS HERE WAS NOT WIDE ENOUGH.

IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE SIZE T THAT YOU WOULD NEED FOR THIS FACILITY.

BUT YOU. BUT ARE YOU SAYING SHIFTING IT OVER THIS WAY? YES. DRIVE THAT WAY.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, THEN THEN YOU JUST.

SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS COSTS ARE GOING TO INCREASE, I THINK, PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO WORK WITH THAT BODY OF WATER.

I'M SURE THAT THAT'S THERE NOT ONLY FOR ESTHETICS BUT ALSO SURFACE WATER DRAINAGE AND AND OTHER PURPOSES.

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THEY'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT. SO THIS WOULD BE NEXT.

ALL OF THIS AREA HERE WOULD BE NET 100.

SO THIS GREEN LINE HERE ALL THE WAY AROUND.

OH, THE WHOLE THING IS GOING TO BE NEXT.

WOULD BE WOULD BE NETTED ALL THE WAY.

DOES THE WHOLE THING HAVE TO BE NET.

WELL YEAH. SO BUT GOLF WAS GOING TO GO ANYWAY.

NO I'M JUST SAYING GOLF.

GOLF WAS GOING TO GO ANYWAY.

IF THEY WANT THAT GOLF COURSE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT TO THEM.

GOLF BALLS IS ONE OF THE THINGS CONSEQUENCES AND JUST PUT THE NET.

NO. SO HERE'S THE THING WITH WITH LIABILITY.

I'M JUST ASKING. IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK FROM A LIABILITY PERSPECTIVE, IF THE GOLF COURSE WAS THERE BEFORE YOU BUILT YOUR HOME, THEN TYPICALLY THEN YOU'RE TAKING THAT THAT LIABILITY.

IF YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING A NEW FACILITY, THEN THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WOULD NEED TO BE HAD.

WAS IT A NEW FACILITY? IF YOU'RE DOING A ONE STORY LEVEL OF YOU'RE DOING THE UNLESS I'M NOT SEEING IT RIGHT ON THE PROPOSAL, IT'S A ONE STORY.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING YOUR TEEING OFF.

EVERYONE'S TEEING OFF TOGETHER AT ONE LOCATION VERSUS.

VARYING SPOTS ALONG THE COURSE.

AND ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES IS SO CURRENTLY WITH THE NORMAL WITH CURRENT PLAY, YOU MIGHT HAVE 150 PEOPLE THAT ARE PLAYING GOLF.

AND IN THIS AREA THEY'RE GOING TO BE HITTING, YOU KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SHOTS, BUT LET'S LET'S CALL IT TEN FULL SWINGS IN THIS AREA AND THIS DRIVING RANGE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE HITTING HUNDREDS OF GOLF BALLS.

SO THE NUMBER OF SHOTS THAT ARE BEING HIT IN THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT A NORMAL GOLF ROUND WOULD BE.

LOOK RIGHT HERE. AND I'M I'M NOT AN ENGINEER OBVIOUSLY, BUT RIGHT WHERE IT SAYS TEACHING TEE THERE'S JUST BUSHES THERE.

CAN WHERE ALL THE, THE HIGH VOLUME OF GOLF BALLS ARE GOING TO BE BE PLACED WHERE THERE'S NO ONE'S HOME.

SO IT'S THIS IS TWO GOLFERS WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE ABILITY TO GOLF OFF A TEE HERE AND HIT THOSE TREES.

THEY CAN'T WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PROFESSIONALS.

YEAH. THE DISTANCE FROM HERE TO HERE.

YEAH IT WOULD BE NICE.

IT REALLY BE NICE. NO I'M JUST SAYING THEN MOVE THAT FACILITY THERE.

WHERE? THE BALLS HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE.

THE. YEAH. LET THEM GO IN THE BUSHES RIGHT THERE CURRENTLY BEING NO WHERE ARE YOU CURRENTLY HAVE THE BALLS GOING.

THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE A DRIVING RANGE.

OKAY. WELL THEN BACK TO THE INITIAL OTHER THING OF IF YOU COULD DO A VIRTUAL TYPE TOP FLIGHT IN A.

RESTAURANT TYPE FACILITY THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY STILL GET IN HERE WITH DISCUSSION FROM THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT DRIVING RANGE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT HAS BEEN MISSING IN OUR CITY.

WHICH WOULD WE BE ABLE TO HELP? A LITTLE BIT OF IT, BECAUSE I DON'T.

AND THEN YOU CAN STILL DO A TEACHING.

T STILL DO A PRACTICE RING.

IT'S SMALL POTS.

I'M REALLY SORRY.

GO AHEAD. SORRY.

OH, NO. I GOT ONE MORE ONE.

THAT'S IT. I'M DONE AFTER THIS.

OH, I HAVE A SUGGESTION.

THE PARK IN THE CHURCH DOWN THE STREET.

THE POSSIBLY CHURCH DOWN THE STREET.

YOU CAN USE THEIR PARKING LOT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THERE DURING THE WEEK.

JUST SAYING. ON THAT NOTE.

YEAH. YOU COULD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PARKING.

YOU NEED IT. YOU NEED A FACILITY.

YOU NEED US THERE ON NOB HILL.

YOU NEED KIND OF A TRAM.

SO THEY HAVE GOLF CARTS DRIVEN ON CITY ROADS.

THEY'RE HAVING ENGINEERING, HAVING CONVULSIONS RIGHT NOW FOR ENGINEERING.

SO GOING BACK TO YOUR MAP AGAIN, YOU'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT.

100FT FENCE AROUND THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY BEHIND OF THEIR HOMES.

YES, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE A LONG THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE WHEN THEY LOOK OUT THEIR BACKYARD.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE. YEAH.

SO THIS IS A THIS IS A TOP GOLF FACILITY.

SO IT WOULDN'T LOOK QUITE LIKE THIS.

SO THE POLES.

WOULDN'T BE QUITE AS DRAMATIC.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THEY'RE GOING TO BE HIGH.

IT IS GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO ANY GOLF FACILITY THAT HAS TOPICAL ACTIVITIES.

LOOKS THIS WAY. YOU'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT WATER, 2 OR 3 STORY BUILDING, LIKE IN TERMS OF THE DRIVING RANGES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE FLOORS.

NO, NO. WE THIS WOULD BE AGAIN, THIS IS A THIS IS A FACILITY IN EL SEGUNDO, CALIFORNIA, WHICH HAS A TOP GOLF A FULL TOP GOLF.

THIS WE WOULD PROPOSE TOP TRACER, WHICH IS TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU CAN INSTALL ON A DRIVING RANGE.

SO IT WOULD BE A SINGLE LEVEL.

IT WOULD JUST BE ON A GRASS DRIVING RANGE TEE ON THE BACK OF IT.

YEAH. YES. CORRECT. THAT'S.

YEAH. YEAH.

SO THAT'S THAT IS MORE OF WHAT THE FACILITY WOULD LOOK LIKE THERE.

AND IF YOU CAN BRING BACK UP THE MAP.

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YEAH. LIKE A HOUSE. YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO NOW COME IN THERE AND DEVELOP AND BUILD SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE.

IT'S A STRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO GOING TO BE THERE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS.

SO ON THE BACK OF THE T HERE, YOU WOULD HAVE THOSE MATS AND A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD COVER IT.

OKAY. SO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT YOU KNOW PEOPLE WANT A DRIVING RANGE.

SO A DRIVING RANGE SOMETIMES DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN YOU CAN CREATE SOMETHING ON A GOLF COURSE WITHOUT A STRUCTURE.

SURE. YEAH. YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY.

YEAH. AND SO IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO TOP GOLF, I THINK IT WOULD STILL BE WORTH CONSIDERING A DRIVING RANGE IN THIS LOCATION OR I DON'T THERE'S UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT OTHER RANGE LOCATIONS.

SO SO SO SO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS A TOPGOLF TYPE FACILITY WHICH THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT.

TOPTRACER. TOPGOLF LIKE CONCEPT.

YOU KNOW, I'LL USE THAT THAT TERMINOLOGY.

MORE PEOPLE KNOW.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT AS A, AS A FACILITY WITH THE FENCES AND ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT THE MAYOR SAYING PEOPLE WANT A DRIVING RANGE.

WHAT IF WE PUT A DRIVING RANGE WITHOUT THE FENCE, WITHOUT THE ERECTION OF A BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE IN THE PARKING LOT AND ALL THAT STUFF? SO THE GOLFERS KNOW FROM THE CHAMPIONSHIP COURSE CAN DRIVE ON THE GOLF CART AND JUST COME AND JUST DO, DO, DO, DO THE DRIVING RANGE BECAUSE I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

THE CONCEPT IS TO GET MORE FAMILIES AND GET PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL GOLFERS TO COME AND PARTICIPATE IN, LIKE AN AN EVENT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT.

BUT THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT IT'S GOING TO BRING NOISE BECAUSE IT'S ACTIVITY RIGHT NOW.

THEY CAN COPE WITH GOLFERS BECAUSE GOLFERS ARE COMING TO PLAY.

THEY'RE PROFESSIONAL GOLFERS, THEY'RE DOING THEIR THING, SO THEY'RE COPING WITH THEM.

AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY THEY BOUGHT INTO HAVING 150.

WHAT IS IT, 150 PEOPLE HITTING GOLF BALLS ON A MINUTE, AN HOUR.

IT'S WHAT YOU SAID. 150.

THAT'S HOW MANY ROUNDS A DAY ARE PLAYED THIS TIME OF YEAR ON THE GLADES? YES. SO PER DAY, PER DAY.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S INDIVIDUAL.

YOU'RE COMING ONE BY ONE.

YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL. YEAH THEY'RE COMING THROUGH AND TWOSOMES FOURSOMES.

BUT NOW WITH A WITH A DRIVING RANGE YOU HAVE PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME HITTING BALLS.

CORRECT. SO ON THAT DRIVING RANGE TEE YOU COULD FIT ANYWHERE FROM ON A LOW END 20 UP TO, YOU KNOW, 30, 35 PEOPLE ACROSS IF IT WAS FULLY BUSY. ABSOLUTELY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT REGARDLESS OF IF YOU DID A TOP TRACER FACILITY OR JUST A STANDARD DRIVING RANGE, YOU WOULD NEED THE NETS ALL THE WAY AROUND.

I GET THAT PART OF IT, BUT I'M SAYING THAT BRINGING THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO BRING MORE NOISE, BECAUSE CURRENTLY WHEN YOU PLAY GOLF, YOU HIT YOUR BALL, YOU END YOUR PARTY, YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT HOLE AND YOU KEEP GOING.

WHEREAS A FACILITY THAT'S A DRIVING RANGE CONSTANTLY PEOPLE ARE HITTING BALLS CONSTANTLY.

SO TO REPETITIVE THING THAT'S GOING TO CREATE CONSTANT NOISE IN TERMS OF CONSTANT BALLS COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD 100 FOOT FENCE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE BALLS ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG FENCE IN THE BACKYARD.

YOU'VE ALSO PUT WORK INTO IT.

YOU SAID IT'S ONLY A CONCEPT.

YOU SAID YOU LOOKED AT THIS SIDE AND IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE.

SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE YOU'VE YOU'VE THIS IS WHAT THE CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE FIXATED ON.

YOU'RE TELLING US IT'S AN OPTION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY STUDIED THE OTHER OPTIONS BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED.

YEAH. OH, ALL WE'VE DONE IS, IS THE ONLY THE ONLY THING WE'VE DONE TO THIS POINT IS JUST SPATIALLY ON THE EXISTING ON ONLY ON THE GLADES COURSE.

WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, AT THE, ON THE CHAMP SIDE.

BUT JUST PURELY FROM A SPATIAL STANDPOINT, WHAT ARE OPTIONS? WE COULD THAT COULD BE DONE.

THAT WOULD BE NOT JUST RENOVATING THE EXISTING 18.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH WITH THIS CONCEPT, WE COULD CERTAINLY GO BACK TO OUR ARCHITECT AND SAY, WE WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED TO DOCTOR DANIELS THAT YOUR ARCHITECT SAID YOU CAN'T DO IT ON THAT SIDE.

IF WE WANTED TO DO A DRIVING RANGE.

CORRECT. SO OBVIOUSLY YOU SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT THAT SIDE ALREADY.

WELL, WE AGAIN, WE WE LOOKED AT THE ENTIRE GLADES PROPERTY.

AND JUST FROM A SPATIAL STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE SIZE IS, HOW MUCH AREA WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, WHAT AREAS COULD WE FIT IN A DRIVING RANGE OR REALLY ANY OTHER.

WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER CONCEPTS TO THIS.

THAT WAS THE ONLY AREA THAT WHERE WE COULD FIT A CONCEPT LIKE THIS.

CITY MANAGER I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPLORE HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE PRESENTING OPTIONS.

ALTERNATIVES. AND SO WITHOUT GETTING INTO ANY LEVEL OF DETAIL ABOUT THE DESIGN CONCEPTS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM YOU IS TO PROVIDE AN OPINION, A CONSENSUS, WHETHER YOU WANT JUST THE GREENS RESTORED OR SOME, SOME OTHER AMENITIES.

AND THEN YOU KNOW CHOOSE ONE OF THOSE DIRECTIONS.

THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT THAT PROBABLY IS A LESSER OF AN INVESTMENT IN THE, IN THE GLADES COURSE, WHICH DOESN'T NECESSARILY REPLACE

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IT WOULDN'T MAKE THAT GOLF COURSE AND A PRISTINE GOLF COURSE, BUT IT WOULD YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IMPROVE THE THE, THE CONDITIONS OF THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MANY OF THESE DETAILS, DESIGN DETAILS, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN YOU KNOW, ASK FOR SOME DIRECTION IN THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE PRESENTING, THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND COME BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE YOU KNOW, EVOLVED CONVERSATION.

OKAY. SO BASED ON THAT, IF I COULD JUST REITERATE ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK AND DISCUSSION THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE HEARD IS LOOKING INTO, WHAT ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR THIS DESIGN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S INTEREST IN THE DESIGN, BUT ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS TO LOWER THE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS AND SEE IF WE COULD MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS, AS THIS IS CONCEPTUAL? DO SOME MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND DISCUSSION, MAYBE WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS AS WELL AS ARE THEIR OPTIONS FOR ALTERNATE LOCATIONS FOR THIS CONCEPT. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M HEARING.

JUST TO REITERATE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING.

AND IF THE DIRECTION IS TO LOOK INTO SOME MORE OPTIONS, ADD IN A FEW ALTERNATIVES.

YOU KNOW, WE'D BE WE'D BE HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD BASED ON ON YOUR INPUT.

SO AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE US TO BE ABLE TO WRAP THAT UP, THAT WAS VERY NICELY DONE.

I DO APPRECIATE I DO HAVE MORE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING DESIRED TO BE MADE.

SO ARE YOU DONE? WELL, ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER DANIEL, YOU HAD THE FLOOR COMMISSIONER, RIGHT? ARE YOU DONE? I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.

APPRECIATE THAT. SO YOU SAID CURRENTLY THE COIL SPRINGS IN 675, 675,000 AS IS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING THIS YEAR, CORRECT? YEP. AND YOU SAID IN TOTAL IT'S BROUGHT IN 2.5 MILLION.

THE WHOLE THE WHOLE COLONY WAS, YOU MENTIONED JUST IN THE GREEN FEE AND CART FEES, GREEN FEES AND CART FEES.

2.5 2.5 MILLION IS WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING FOR THIS YEAR FOR GREEN FEES AND CART FEES TOTAL.

AND THAT'S THE USE OF THE CURRENT GOLF COURSE.

THAT'S CORRECT. 2.5 MILLION.

IT'S BRINGING IN FOR ALL 36 HOLES.

YES. AND IF BASED ON YOUR PROJECTION OF TOP GOLF LIKE CONCEPT, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL REVENUES WOULD THAT ADD AND HOW MUCH REVENUES WOULD YOU LOSE? WE WOULD PROJECT BETWEEN 750 AND $1.2 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM ADDING IN A TOP TRACER FACILITY.

OR NOT JUST TOP TRACER, BUT THE THE ENTIRE CONCEPT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO IT'S PROJECTED TO BRING SEVEN.

WHAT. SET AGAINST BETWEEN 750 AND 1.2 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE, AND THAT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF GREEN CARD FEES, BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE THE NINE HOLES IN THE SHORT COURSE.

THAT WOULD BE STANDARD DRIVING RANGE USE.

SO SELLING INDIVIDUAL BUCKETS OF RANGE BALLS RENTAL FOR THE TOP TRACER BAYS INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMING LOYALTY PROGRAMS WHERE YOU COULD YOU KNOW, GET INTO A RANGE MEMBERSHIP, A MONTHLY TYPE OF RANGE MEMBERSHIP, FOOD AND BEVERAGE REVENUE, MERCHANDISE SALES AND GOLF COURSE INSTRUCTOR AND INSTRUCTION INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS. SO THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT REVENUE SEGMENTS THAT WE WOULD SEE AS BEING PART OF THIS TYPE OF CONCEPT.

SO THAT WOULD BE SAY 1.750 MINUS.

YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE A 675.

ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THE 675? THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE WE FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT $675,000 IN REVENUE JUST BY KEEPING THE NINE HOLES, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE AN ELEVATED EXPERIENCE.

SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF ROUNDS AT ABOUT THE SAME AVERAGE RATE AS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING ON THE NINE HOLE COURSE.

AND THEN YOU CAN ADD IN THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS FROM THE DRIVING RANGE, TOP TRACER, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, AND SHORT COURSE.

AND HOW MUCH DOES THE CITY GET FROM THOSE REVENUES? ALL OF THAT COMES TO THE CITY.

YEAH, EVERYTHING 100% IS 100.

SO 100% COMES TO THE CITY.

OKAY. AND SO YEAH, THE THE THE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ERECT A FENCE, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION IN THERE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT.

YOU KNOW, GOLF ACTIVITY IS, IS, YOU KNOW, GOLF ACTIVITY AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

BALLS COMING INTO THE BACKYARDS.

THEY CAN LIVE WITH THAT.

HAVING BULLDOZERS COMING IN TO DEVELOP A PARKING LOT TO ERECT A DRIVING RANGE BUILDING AND THAT STUFF HAVING NO FENCE, I DON'T THINK, ESPECIALLY AT THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE

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I'M SURE THE VALUE HAS GONE UP TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME.

THE NOISE THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE BECAUSE YOU'RE CONSTANTLY GOING HAVE BALLS AND STUFF GOING BACK AND FORTH AND, YOU KNOW, YES, IT'S GOING TO BRING MORE REVENUES.

AND I DO THINK THAT THE CITY WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GENERATE MORE REVENUES.

BUT I THINK JUST WE'VE ALWAYS HAD AN EYE ON THIS SPECIFIC SPOT, AND WE GOT TO BE A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE AND FIND DIFFERENT WAYS, LIKE DOCTOR DANIELS MENTIONED.

WHAT ABOUT ON THIS SIDE? THAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU ALREADY TOLD ME THAT YOU ALREADY SPOKE TO YOUR ENGINEER.

AND OBVIOUSLY HE SAID THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S NOT PART OF IT.

AND CITY MANAGER, ONE OF THE REASON I'M SO DILIGENT IS BECAUSE LAST NIGHT WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE WE THOUGHT WE WERE.

I THOUGHT I WAS JUST VOTING TO GIVE YOU APPROVAL TO A BUDGET.

AND THEN I READ IN THE SUN-SENTINEL THAT I'M BEING BAMBOOZLED BY STAFF, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, SO, SO I'M BEING A LITTLE MORE DILIGENT IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A CONCEPT AND IT'S AN IDEA, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET RESIDENTS, WE'RE GOING TO BUY IN RESIDENTS.

BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, I WOULD WANT TO COME BACK TO SEE MORE OPTIONS.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS SPECIFIC CONCEPT.

AND OBVIOUSLY, THESE GENTLEMEN HAVE ALREADY DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN THEIR RESEARCH BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO POINT OUT THAT WE CAN USE THAT.

WE CAN'T USE THAT SITE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE CHAMPIONSHIP COURSE SIDE WHERE WE CAN'T USE THAT PART OF PINE ISLAND.

BUT I THINK THERE'S WAYS WE CAN ACHIEVE OUR GOAL OF GENERATING MORE REVENUES, ACHIEVE OUR GOAL OF OF GETTING SOMETHING THAT'S MORE FAMILY ORIENTED AND ACTIVITIES.

SO THERE'S OPTIONS OUT THERE.

THERE'S CREATIVE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DOING OUT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF TRUE NECESSARILY DOES THIS TYPE OF THING.

IT MIGHT NOT BE YOUR SPECIFIC CORE COMPETENCY, BUT OBVIOUSLY OTHER COMPANIES ARE DOING IT.

AND BECAUSE WE AS A CITY HAVE THE POWER TO OF THE GOLF COURSE, WE CAN BE CREATIVE AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU GUYS WORK FOR US, RIGHT? YOU YOU WE WE WE TELL YOU WHAT WE THINK WE WANT AND THEN YOU GUYS TRY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, AM I CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, OKAY.

JUST JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

SO I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND WITHOUT AFFECTING THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE BALANCE.

YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO KEEP THE RESIDENTS HAPPY.

BUT I'M NOT SAYING DON'T DO THIS BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.

WE DO NEED SOME SORT OF ACTIVITY FOR FAMILIES.

I AGREE WITH DOCTOR DANIELS.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOMETHING TO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT IT IN A IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THANKS. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST TO REITERATE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT IT WAS ONE FLOOR AND THEN IT WAS A FEW FLOORS, NOT THE YOU MENTIONED IT, BUT IT WAS BROUGHT UP.

EXCUSE ME. YOU PLEASE KEEP IT DOWN.

WHICH. EVERYTHING'S BEEN QUIET AND RESPECTFUL.

LET'S CONTINUE THAT WAY. PLEASE GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

FOR THE RECORD, ONE FLOOR.

IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE, RIGHT? BUT WITHOUT THE THE HEIGHT.

CORRECT. RIGHT. HOW TALL IS THAT? TYPICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE 12FT.

SO YOU CAN YOU KNOW.

JUST TALL ENOUGH TO WHERE YOU'RE NOT IMPACTING SOMEBODY'S SWING, BUT AND LOW ENOUGH WHERE IT PROVIDES PROTECTION FROM WHATEVER WEATHER AND SUN.

SO GOING BACK TO THE MAP.

THE LARGER ONE.

NO. NO, NO.

GO TO THE GLADES ONLY.

THE NEXT ONE. ALL RIGHT, SO IT'S GOING NORTH AND SOUTH, RIGHT? CAN WE MAKE IT THAT THE NOISE BOUNCES OFF.

SO IT DOES NOT AFFECT WHEN YOU SWING THE BALL.

WHEN YOU SWING THE GOLF CLUB, THE NOISE DOES NOT PENETRATE TO THE SOUTH OR TO THE NORTH OF THE COMMUNITIES.

RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE NOISE COMES FROM.

NOT BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE TALKING, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 30 TO 50 PEOPLE PLAYING.

SO THE NOISE REALLY IS NOT THERE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE TO COVER THE ENDS, THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH END OF THE ACTUAL RANGE? WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

AND I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU CAN DISSIPATE NOISE IN, IN CERTAIN AREAS.

SO THE RANGE ON ITS OWN, AS IT WAS SUGGESTED YOU WILL STILL NEED A PARKING LOT IN MY, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE GOING FROM THE CHAMPIONS COURSE DRIVING ALL THE WAY TO THE GLADES.

THERE'S JUST NO WAY THERE'S GOLFERS IN BETWEEN.

IT'S VERY LONG DRIVE.

SO YOU WILL STILL NEED TO CONSTRUCT A A PARKING LOT.

THAT PARKING LOT WILL HAVE TREES, FLOWERS, HEDGING, BEAUTIFICATION TO IT.

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YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE JUST JUST CONCRETE, PER SE.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THOSE HOMES ON THE SOUTH SIDE ARE TWO FLOORS.

THE HOMES ON THE NORTH SIDE ARE ONE FLOORS, BUT THE HOMES ON THE NORTH SIDE WON'T WON'T BE AFFECTED AT ALL, FROM WHAT I CAN SEE.

IF ANYTHING, BOMBAY AND PLUM HARBOR, THEY JUST WILL SEE.

THE THE JUST THE GREENERY.

CITY MANAGER, HOW TALL IS THE TOWER HERE IN BSO? WE HAVE TWO TOWERS OUT THERE.

ONE THE BIG LATTICE TOWER IS ABOUT 330FT, AND THE SMALLER SINGLE POLE CELLULAR TOWER IS ABOUT 180, 185FT. AND YOU'RE PROPOSING THIS NETTING TO BE HOW HIGH? WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR.

WE'D HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL STUDIES TO DETERMINE THE WIDTH OF THE RANGE AND DISTANCES TO TO DETERMINE HOW HIGH THE NET WOULD BE NEED TO BE, BUT APPROXIMATELY 100FT FOR JUST THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD THUS FAR.

SO JUST FOR THE COMMISSION'S PURPOSE, IF THEY CAN LOOK AT THE SMALLER TOWER, IT'S APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THAT.

SO THE TOWER THAT WE HAVE HERE, YOU CAN EVEN REALLY SEE IT WITH THE TREES COVERING THE TOWER.

JUST FOR SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THE ON THE HEIGHT OF IT IF OPTION TWO IS AN OPTION, PERHAPS TREES ALONG THE SIDE OF THE POSE.

EVENTUALLY THEY WILL GROW.

ARE YOU GOING TO SEE IS REALLY THE NET? IF ANYTHING AT ALL.

IF OPTION TWO IS AN OPTION, WHETHER 1 OR 2.

DEFINITELY A WATER FOUNTAIN ON THE MINIATURE LAKE HERE.

JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

YEAH. JUST WANT TO PUT SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.

I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED RESIDENTS INPUT ON THIS ONE.

I THINK IT'S A FABULOUS IDEA TO FAMILY IDEA.

I DON'T BELIEVE MOST RESIDENTS WILL BE AGAINST IT JUST BECAUSE IT REALLY ADDS THAT VALUE TO THEIR HOMES AND TO THEIR LIFESTYLE AND TO THE REST OF THE TAMARAC AS WELL.

SO. MY INPUT.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

BOLTON. RUDY.

IS THIS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN? I DON'T DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS SPECIFIC DESIGN IN THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY A PRIORITY FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PORTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO DETERMINE IF THAT'S NEEDED.

SO THIS HASN'T GONE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT FEEDBACK IN THE MASTER PLAN.

BUT AS PART OF IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER, WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT ENGAGEMENT TO REALLY GAUGE THE COMMUNITY, TO SEE WHAT THEIR INTEREST IS, AS WELL AS FEEDBACK OR MAYBE AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION.

I'M MISS CALLOWAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

COMMISSIONER. IS THIS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN? THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS THE CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH DOES HAVE A PARKS AND REC OPEN SPACE ELEMENT, DOES SPEAK TO RECREATION AND RECREATIONAL NEEDS AS ELEMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND COMPONENTS OF BOTH PLANS.

SO I WOULD SAY IT IS OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THE RESIDENTS IF THEY DON'T WANT.

THIS WOULD BE AGAINST THE CITY'S PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN.

WELL, ALSO, JUST TO BOLSTER WHAT RUDY JUST SAID, A HUGE ELEMENT IN BOTH PLAN IS COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION.

AND SO THE INTENT OR IDEA WOULD BE TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IF, IN FACT, THIS COMMISSION BELIEVES OR WE RECEIVE CONSENSUS, THEN WE WOULD TAKE IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE BOTH PLANS DOES INCLUDE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

OKAY, SO WOULDN'T THAT BE PRUDENT THEN TO START THE CONVERSATION WITH THE RESIDENTS?

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I THINK THAT WE'D BE BETTER SERVED PRESENTING BOTH OPTIONS OR HEARING THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR ANY OTHER OPTION THAT THEY WOULD DEEM APPROPRIATE.

AND THEN HAVE CONSENSUS THAT WAY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE STARTING THE CONVERSATION PREMATURELY.

YOU KNOW, SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GET THAT.

THIS OPTION TWO IS A GREAT IDEA, AND WE DON'T THINK THAT RESIDENTS WOULD BE AGAINST IT.

LET'S HEAR WHAT THEY SAY AND LET'S, YOU KNOW, DODGE THE PITCH, THE PITCHFORKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO CHOOSE AN OPTION NOW.

PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN VOCAL ON CHOOSING AN OPTION.

YOU KNOW, AND SO I'M SURE THE RESIDENTS WILL HEAR ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS BEING SELECTED, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO.

I'M CHOOSING OPTION NOW SIMPLY BECAUSE OF WHAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT THERE MUST BE A DRIVER THERE FOR RESIDENT INPUT.

RIGHT. AND AND SO I CAN'T CHOOSE FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS NOW.

ACCORDINGLY, IT IS YOU KNOW, VICE MAYOR WRIGHT'S DISTRICT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD GIVE DEFERENCE TO THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER, ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD AFFECT THE RESIDENTS IN THAT DISTRICT POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY.

SO TO THE EXTENT THAT HE CAN LEAD THAT CONVERSATION I'D LOVE TO BE THERE TO HEAR WHAT RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO SAY WHEN THAT TIME COMES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO BASICALLY, AS SAID EARLIER.

IT IS A DISCUSSION.

IT IS A CONCEPT.

IT IS NOT A BAKED CAKE.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO BRING FORTH TO THE RESIDENTS.

WE CAN'T GO TO THE RESIDENTS.

WE'VE TRIED IT DIFFERENT WAYS IN OUR CITY.

WE TRIED JUST GOING WITH A TOPIC, JUST WE PUT A TOPIC OUT THERE.

THEN THEY GET UPSET WITH US BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO VISUALS AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN THINK WE'RE HALF ASSED AND WE DON'T PLAN.

SO THEN YOU HAVE TO BRING THEM SOMETHING FOR THEM TO HAVE A CONCEPT, TO AT LEAST KNOW IT'S A CONCEPT, AND THEN BE ABLE TO GET A FEEL FOR.

SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A CONCEPT THAT THERE'S SUPPORT FOR, BUT UNDERSTANDING THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME BLENDING OF SOME OF WHAT IT COULD BE.

STILL NOT EXCLUSIVE OF GETTING THE RESIDENTS INPUT.

AND WHEN WE HAVE OUR MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS, IF WE GO FORTH BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE CONSENSUS TO GO FORTH WITH THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, PROVIDE SEVERAL DIFFERENT CONCEPTS, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN AVENUE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO ATTEND AND SAY, LIKE THIS, LIKE THAT, DON'T LIKE THIS, DON'T LIKE THAT.

HAVE WE CONSIDERED THIS? BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE GOT A GREAT UNTAPPED MARKET IN OUR RESIDENTS.

THEY HAVE SUCH EXPERIENCES AND KNOWLEDGE.

THAT MAKES US WHOLE, WHICH IS THE WHOLE REASON FOR WHY WE GO OUT AND ASK THEM WHAT IS THOUGHT FOR SO.

BUT TAKING IN MIND SOME OF THE IMPORTANT CONCEPTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS A COMMISSION, BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT KNOW SOME OF THE NUANCES THAT WE DO, WHICH IS WHY YOU PROVIDE A CONCEPT TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHERE WE CAN GO, WHERE WE CAN'T GO, WHAT WE'VE TRIED.

BUT I WANT TO JUST PUT A FEW THINGS AND HAVE ANSWERS FOR THE FUTURE IF WE DON'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR THEM NOW WHILE WE ARE MAKING SOME MONEY ON THE GLADES, I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY COMPLAINTS WE'VE HAD ABOUT THE GLADES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL US NOW, BECAUSE REALLY, AT THIS POINT, WE'VE GOT CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONVERSATION AND CONCEPT AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.

IT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S A DONE DEAL, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S DEAD.

BUT I KNOW WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE GLADES COURSE BECAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.

NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS NOT PUT IN WHEN THE GLADES COURSE WAS CREATED, MUCH TO MANY PEOPLE'S DISBELIEF, BECAUSE WE DID NOT KNOW THAT UNTIL WE START ASKING QUESTIONS.

SO JUST LIKE IT DIDN'T HAVE BUNKERS, IT DOESN'T HAVE CERTAIN IRRIGATION AND CERTAIN OTHER THINGS THAT THIS COURSE NEEDS.

WHICH IS WHY OPTION ONE WAS ALSO SO EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT IS NOT.

PUT INTO PAR, NO PUN INTENDED, WITH THE CHAMPIONSHIP COURSE, SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.

THIS IS NOT IF YOU LEAVE IT, IT IS STILL GREAT BECAUSE IT IS NOT AND NEEDS TO BE MADE BETTER.

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HOTEL IS NOW OPEN.

MORE GOLF IS BEING PLAYED.

OUR COLONY WEST, UPSTAIRS AND DOWNSTAIRS BEING UTILIZED.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE LATELY, BUT YOU ALMOST CAN'T FIND A PARKING SPOT.

SO NO MATTER WHAT OTHER DISCUSSIONS NEED TO BE HAD.

WE DIDN'T PARK THIS PLACE WELL.

BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH SHARING OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PARKING SPACES THAT CAN BE DONE.

BUT WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT YET AGAIN BY NOT GIVING US THE UNDERSTANDING.

AND YOU CAN HUFF AND PUFF ALL YOU'D LIKE, BUT THESE ARE CONCEPTS OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE CREATED, THAT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIX A PROBLEM BEFORE IT GETS WORSE.

RIGHT? BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE COME TO COLONY WEST AND THEY CAN'T FIND A SPOT, THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK WHEN THEY WRITE THOSE LITTLE REVIEWS ALL OVER THE YELP AND GOOGLE AND ALL OTHER THINGS, THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK.

AND WHERE DOES THAT HURT US? SO WHERE DOES IT TAKE THE MOMENTUM THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD FOR? IT SHOOTS US IN THE FOOT AND BRINGS US DOWN.

SO WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING THAT WE DO NEED TO BE WORKING ON PARKING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE IT.

AND THEN KEEPING IN MIND, AS WELL AS WE BRING FORTH THE CONVERSATION THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT FORTH, THAT THIS IS NOT JUST FOR DISTRICT TWO, IT IS NOT JUST FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT LIVE SPECIFICALLY ON THE COURSE.

IT'S A CITYWIDE REQUIREMENT FOR CITY INPUT.

SO BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS ALIKE WILL BE ASKED ABOUT THIS.

AGAIN, YOU LOOK INTO TECHNOLOGY, YOU LOOK INTO THINGS.

BEFORE WE HAVE THIS MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE VARIOUS OPTIONS, BUT ABLE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR MORE.

SO. ON THAT NOTE, I THINK YOU'VE GOT THE CONSENSUS OF DIRECTION.

GO FORTH. AND WE ARE NOW GOING TO END THIS TOPIC.

AND WE ARE GOING.

IT'S A IT'S A.

OKAY. IT'S OPEN FOR ANYBODY FOR MANY, HOWEVER MANY HOURS.

OKAY. BUT IF YOU HEAR MY SIREN GO OFF AGAIN, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY MAKING FUN OF ME.

JUST TWO THINGS.

IF YOU CAN PLEASE REMOVE THE TOPGOLF IMAGE AND NOT USE WHAT? IT'S REALLY NOT.

SO THE RESIDENTS CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

TWO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES THE SAME THING WE DID WITH THE MAYNARD PARK ON HOW WE WANTED TO LOOK LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND I'M TALKING TO YOU.

I'M LOOKING THIS WAY, BUT I'M TALKING TO THIS WAY.

NO DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE JUST FIGURING OUT WHAT FITS WHAT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME THING WE DID WITH MAYNARD PARK, RIGHT? MAYNARD PARK. SABAL PALM PARK.

SORRY. SO JUST FOR THE RECORD.

AND SURE, I'LL JUST TAP IT OFF ON THAT ONE.

ONE OF THE THINGS IS, JUST AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GET A LITTLE MESSY TO GET THINGS BETTER.

SO EVEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO FIX UP THE GLAZE COURSE ON A REGULAR GOLF COURSE, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE NOISE, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE MESSY. IT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO GET IT BETTER.

I USED TO LIKEN IT TO WHEN I USED TO UNDO MY POCKETBOOK AND FIX IT AND CLEAN IT UP.

IT'S A MESS ALL OVER THE PLACE UNTIL YOU GET IT ALL STRAIGHTENED BACK IN, YOU KNOW? SO BUT WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO FOR MAKING THE COURSE BETTER, IT'S GOING TO BE MESSY FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE UNLESS WE JUST LEAVE IT ALONE AND NOT INVEST IN OUR FUTURE.

CITY MANAGER, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION.

ARE WE CLEAR? EXACTLY.

WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

SURE. SO I'LL JUST REITERATE.

AND SO AS FAR AS THE FEEDBACK IS LOOKING INTO SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS OR WAYS THAT WE COULD REDUCE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEN PRESENTING OR ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IMPACTED THE MOST IN THIS AREA TO PRESENT BOTH OPTIONS THAT ARE HERE, AS WELL AS IF THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT THAT CHANGES THE IMPACT A LITTLE BIT.

IS THAT THE THE CLEAR IT IS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER STEP BECAUSE JUST LIKE WE MENTIONED, WHEN WE DO OUR PARKS, WE GO OUT WITH THE RESIDENTS, WE GET THEIR FEEDBACK, WE GET THE INPUT, WE COME BACK, WE PUT EVERYTHING BACK INTO THAT CAKE AND WE FIGURE IT OUT AND THEN WE GO BACK USUALLY AGAIN, IF THERE IS A NEED FOR IT, BECAUSE THERE'S.

A NEED FOR IT, BUT IT'S NOT A FINAL DECISION BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, GOING ABOUT GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS CONVERSATION, I'M NOT SURE HOW COMFORTABLE WE ARE WITH WITH THAT.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T HAVE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION TO GO OUT AND SOLICIT THIS KIND OF INFORMATION, AND THEN THAT

[03:20:04]

SO WHAT ARE WE ASKING THE RESIDENTS? WHAT ARE WE DEFENDING? WHAT ARE WE? IT'S NOT IMPOSING DEFENDING OR IT'S THE RESIDENTS KNOW FOR A WHILE NOW THAT WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO REVITALIZE THE GLADES COURSE.

AND THEY HAVE ASKED US FOR CERTAIN THINGS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING OF THE CITY.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR RESTAURANT, THEY'VE ASKED FOR ENTERTAINMENT, THEY'VE ASKED FOR ACTIVITY, THEY'VE ASKED FOR VIBRANCY.

WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TOLD THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WILL KEEP IT WITH GOLF ORIENTED ITEMS. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE CONDOMINIUMS, RESIDENTIAL.

THAT WAS WHAT WE MADE THE PROMISE TO THEM.

BUT WE SAID WE WOULD GO OUT AND LOOK INTO WHAT IS BASICALLY HERE.

AND SO BASICALLY IT'S ASKING THEM FOR THEIR FEEL OF IT THERE, BUT WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE HARD.

KNOWLEDGE OF.

IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT COULD BE HERE WITH THE POLLS THIS HIGH OR NOT, THIS HIGH HOURS OF THE WEEK, WHATEVER.

JUST GIVING THEM SOME.

CONCEPT THAT THEY CAN HOLD ON TO AND BE ABLE TO SAY THEY SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT.

OR IF YOU MOVE THE PARKING LOT TO THE LEFT, IT WOULD BE BETTER BECAUSE IT'S MORE TOWARDS NOB HILL AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BOTHER ANYBODY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THEY HAVE THEIR INPUT TO COME BACK.

IT'S THE START OF THE CONVERSATION.

IT'S NOT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD ASK US, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BRING THAT.

SO SENSE FROM THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS BACK TO YOU.

SO WE'LL BE THERE. SO I THINK WE SHOULD GET A VOTE ON WHO WANTS WHAT OPTION.

SO SO WE CAN HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION AND THE STAFF CAN HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION OF WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING TWO OPTIONS OUT THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE WHICH OPTIONS WERE WE'RE USING.

SO I THOUGHT THERE WAS CONSENSUS ON OPTION TWO FOR DOING SOMETHING THAT REVITALIZED RATHER THAN.

SO YEAH, IF I COULD IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY NEED A VOTE ON THE OPTIONS BECAUSE WE DID GET SOME FEEDBACK ON MOVEMENT OF THINGS.

AND THERE WAS THE THE SUGGESTION TO PRESENT BOTH OPTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK FOR US TO GO OUT FIRST AND JUST PRESENT OPTIONS AND HEAR THE COMMUNITY AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

SO I THINK THE RESIDENTS WERE PROMISED THAT WE WERE GOING TO FIX THE GOLF COURSE.

WE'RE GOING TO REVITALIZE IT. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.

THEY WON'T NECESSARILY PROMISE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BEAT GOLF ACTIVITY, ERECTING STRUCTURES AND DOING THAT TYPE OF STUFF FROM FROM MY RECOLLECTION AND HAVING CONVERSATION WITH THE RESIDENTS WHO I TALKED TO FROM TIME TO TIME AND WHO ALWAYS MESSAGE ME WITH DIFFERENT ISSUES.

SO I THINK THAT WAS A DIRECTION THAT WE PROMISED TO THE RESIDENTS THAT THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO REVITALIZE THIS GOLF COURSE IN TERMS OF MAKING IMPROVEMENTS, WE ALSO SAID WE'RE GOING TO PUT A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.

SO IN THE FUTURE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE'LL BE NOTIFICATION WITHIN 400FT OF THE RESIDENTS.

SO I'M VERY CLEAR ON WHAT WE TOLD THE RESIDENTS.

I'D LIKE TO BE A MAN OF MY WORD, YOU KNOW? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THAT AND THE FACT THAT I WANT OPTION ONE, I WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT, THAT I WANT OPTION ONE, WHEREAS TO, YOU KNOW, JUST IMPROVE IN THE GOLF COURSE.

IF THE CONSENSUS IS THAT YOU GUYS WANT OPTION TWO AND YOU WANT THE STAFF TO GO, HEY, DEMOCRACY RULES.

AND THAT'S A CONSENSUS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON WHO WANTS WHAT I WANT OPTION ONE.

AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHO WANTS THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

AND I WANT TO CLARIFY VICE MAYOR, THAT THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ARE COMING IN AS PART OF THE AGENDA ON WEDNESDAY'S MEETING.

AND SO THAT DOES RESTRICT ALL DEVELOPMENT IN ANY OF THESE GOLF COURSES TO GOLF RELATED RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND NOTHING MORE.

SO AND I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT.

I'VE BEEN READING IT LAST NIGHT.

I SAW WE HAVE IT IN THE BINDER. I'VE BEEN READING IT LAST NIGHT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT.

THAT'S COMING UP, BECAUSE WE MADE A PROMISE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT IN PLACE.

SO I JUST WANT US TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, CLEAR UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE IF I'M GOING OUT TO THE RESIDENTS, I WANT THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW WHAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF.

NOT NECESSARILY THAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS ERECTING FENCES AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

IT'S NOT WHAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF. SO I WANT THESE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, I SAID, I'M IN SUPPORT OF ONE THING, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M IN SUPPORT OF, WHICH IS MAKING THE GOLF COURSE, KEEPING IT AS IS AND MAKING IT MAKING IMPROVEMENT TO AS IS.

SO BASICALLY, I KNOW I WAS AT THAT MEETING TOO, AND I KNOW WHAT I SAID, AND I SAID THAT BASICALLY I WANTED TO HEAR MORE OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND TO HAVE INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS.

AND SO I HEARD THE SAME RESIDENTS SAY THAT THEY WANT STUFF AND IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE.

IT IS A CONVERSATION.

AND SO I, I DO NOT FEEL LIKE BEING PIGEONHOLED AND I WON'T BE PIGEONHOLED.

MY COMMENT IS THAT WE HAVE SAID THAT WE NEED TO REVITALIZE.

WE'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT WHEN WE DAY ONE, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE BOUGHT THE BOUGHT THE COURSE, THAT WE WOULD DO WHAT WE CAN TO REVITALIZE GOLF IN THE CITY AND MAKE THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND COLONY WEST THE DESTINATION LOCATION FOR GOLF, GOLF OF ALL TYPES OF GOLF.

SO WITH THAT.

I CAN'T SAY I WANT ONE VERSUS TWO AND TWO VERSUS ONE.

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I AM LEANING TOWARDS AN OPTION TO NOT NECESSARILY AS IT IS DRAWN, BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DRIVING RANGE AS IT IS DRAWN.

MY QUESTION WAS FOR A NINE HOLE.

MY QUEST WAS FOR A PAR THREE, BUT WE SEEM TO HAVE TWO PAR THREES.

MY QUEST WAS FOR DOING SOMETHING MORE FAMILY ORIENTED WITH A PUTT PUTT.

THAT'S NOT HERE FOR WHATEVER REASON IT IS.

BUT IF YOU COULD AGAIN BLEND TECHNOLOGY WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THAT RESTAURANT THAT DEALS WITH GOLF AS A 19TH HOLE THAT MOST GOLF COURSES HAVE, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY DRIVING RANGE, WHICH MAY BE SOMETHING THE RESIDENTS MAY BE FOR BECAUSE IT'S NOT 100 FOOT HEIGHT FENCING.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? AGAIN, WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION IN CONJECTURE AND SPECULATION WITHOUT.

HAVING SOME CONCEPTS OUT THERE AND BRINGING IT OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND ACTUALLY HAVING THE RESIDENTS MAKING AN EDUCATED DECISION, NOT A KNEE JERK REACTION DECISION AT A MEETING WHERE THEY WERE PISSED OFF, WHERE ALL THEY SAW WAS COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL IN THE TITLE, AND WORRIED THAT WE WERE TAKING AWAY THE RIGHTS OF GOLF.

SO LET'S CONTINUE THE PROMISE WE MADE TO BRING IT OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND HAVE THEM HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT.

AND AT THAT TIME, WHEN WE HAVE THE CONCEPTS OUT THERE, WE CAN THEN MAKE A DECISION OF, GO THIS ROUTE, GO THAT ROUTE, GO THE THIRD ROUTE, GO A FIFTH ROUTE, WHO KNOWS? BUT. THAT'S WHERE THAT IS.

SO AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR, OUR PARK AND REC DIRECTOR HAS IT COVERED CLEARLY AS TO WHAT THE DIRECTION NEEDS.

AND IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO SPITBALL THE SAME HOOP, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE TODAY WHERE SOME PEOPLE NEED TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS.

BUT IF. OKAY, WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO CLOSE IT BY SAYING THAT THAT WILL INCLUDE THIS CONVERSATION INTO OUR DISTRICT MEETINGS.

AND THAT'S THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

AND THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING THIS CONVERSATION TO THOSE MEETINGS.

SO AT THOSE DISTRICT MEETINGS, WHEN YOU DO IT, YOU CAN HAVE.

THINGS RIGHT NOW WHERE PEOPLE CAN GIVE IN SURVEYS AND THEN WE CAN TAKE IT BACK.

YOU CAN GO OUT TO ANOTHER MEETING AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE THAT NEXT ACTUAL DISTRICT MEETING WITH IT'S SOLELY BEING FOCUSED ON BLADES COURSE.

YES. OR THE GOLF COURSE AS A WHOLE.

RIGHT. OKAY. SO IT SEEMS THAT HE'S.

BUT THE. COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS RETURNED OVER HIS CARD AND HE WISHES TO SPEAK.

YES, THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO YOU YOU YOU HEARD MY MY COMMENTARY THAT I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE INFORMED FIRST THAT THIS IS NOT THE TIME AND PLACE FOR THIS CONVERSATION, THAT IT SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THE RESIDENTS.

I AGREE WITH VICE MAYOR RIGHT, THAT WE SHOULD VOCALIZE WHAT OPTIONS WE'RE LEANING TOWARD.

I'M DEFINITELY LEANING TOWARD OPTION NUMBER ONE TO KEEP THE GOLF COURSE THE SAME AND TO DO MINOR IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE IS NOT DIMINISHED IN ANY WAY.

I'VE HEARD FROM MY OTHER COLLEAGUES THAT OPTION TWO IS PROBABLY WHERE THEY'RE LEANING TOWARDS AND, AND THAT'S JUST SAD.

BUT LET'S LET'S HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT IS 146.

MAY WE PROCEED TO THE NEXT ONE, OR DOES SOMEBODY NEED ANYBODY? NEED A BREAK? NO BREAKS. GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. SO.

WE NOW HAVE UP ONE D FIRE DEPARTMENT'S RECERTIFICATION STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS UPDATE BEING PRESENTED BY MIKE AND OUR FIRE CHIEF AND I

[1.d Fire Department Recertification Strategic Planning Process Update Presented by Mike Annese, Fire Chief]

IS IT DIVISION CHIEF FRAZIER? JOHN FRAZIER? IS IT DEPUTY CHIEF? I TOLD YOU, I SCREW IT UP. IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN.

I DON'T HAVE IT. DEPUTY CHIEF DEPUTY CHIEF FRAZIER.

RIGHT. HE.

HE'S A DEPUTY CHIEF.

OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MIKE AND FIRE CHIEF.

WE'LL MAKE THIS QUICK SINCE IT'S GOTTEN SO LATE.

KNOW YOU TAKE YOUR TIME THAT YOU NEED TO PRESENT TO US.

WE HAVE THE REST OF THE DAY.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FOR YOU, WILL.

AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, PEOPLE CAN LEAVE.

PLEASE PROCEED. YOU GOT IT.

UNDERSTOOD. WE WANTED TO COVER A LITTLE BIT.

SPEAKING TO CITY MANAGER AND IN SPIRIT OF THE RECENT STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSIONS THAT WE HAD WITH THE CITY.

IT'S THAT TIME FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO DO ITS ACCREDITATION PROCESS, WHICH KIND OF IT GOES IN SPIRIT, LIKE I SAID, WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLANNING.

SO WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW JUST SO YOU CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.

AND JUST SO THAT YOU WHEN YOU SEE THINGS OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, AS FAR AS WE'RE DOING EXTERNAL SURVEYS, TRYING TO POLL THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR,

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SO WE'LL COVER THAT TODAY.

SO WHAT IS ACCREDITATION? ACCREDITATION IS A COMPREHENSIVE FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICE EVALUATION METHOD OF MEASURING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PERFORMANCE AND CAPABILITIES.

OKAY, SO IT'S VETTED BY IT'S VETTED BY A FIVE MEMBER BOARD.

AND THEY BASICALLY LOOK OVER WHAT WE DO, HOW WE DO IT.

AND IN THE END, WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP POLICIES AND INCLUDING A STRATEGIC PLAN AND PROGRAM ACTION PLANS AND ASSESS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WHAT ARE WE DOING IT RIGHT? ARE WE DOING IT CORRECTLY? DO WE NEED TO IMPROVE THINGS? WHERE DO WE HAVE VOIDS THAT WE NEED TO CORRECT AND FILL IN SO THE COMMUNITY IS SATISFIED IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS SERVING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE IN CORRECTLY.

SO IT'S REALLY A GOOD PROGRAM FOR US TO REALLY TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT HOW WE OPERATE AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

WHO IS THE CENTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY EXCELLENCE? IT'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO THE SELF IMPROVEMENT OF FIRE.

IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT UP THERE.

THEY DO A LOT. THEY NOT ONLY DO FIRE DEPARTMENTS, BUT THEY DO THE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION.

EACH ONE OF US CHIEF OFFICERS ARE ALSO ACCREDITED OFFICERS, INDIVIDUAL LIKE CHIEF FIRE OFFICER, CHIEF EMS OFFICER AND SO FORTH.

SO THEY AGAIN TAKE A LOOK AT US AS INDIVIDUALS TO DETERMINE IF WE MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA TO MAKE THAT CHIEF OFFICER'S STATUS AND BE DESIGNATED.

SO WE ALL ARE DESIGNATED AS CHIEF OFFICERS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS? SOME OF THE BENEFITS WE JOTTED DOWN HERE PROVIDES GREATER COMMUNITY ALIGNMENT, ENCOURAGES QUALITY IMPROVEMENT AND SO FORTH.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE IS INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY.

AS WE SAID, WE PROVIDE DATA SUPPORTED DECISION MAKING.

WE ENSURE THE AGENCY HAS A DEFINED MISSION AND RELATED OBJECTIVES.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR OWN INTERNAL STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT'S A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.

CHIEF FRAZIER WILL TOUCH UPON THAT.

BUT GENERALLY, LIKE I SAID, IT ALLOWS US TO SPEAK WITH UNION REPRESENTATION AS FAR AS OUR UNION, OURSELVES, MANAGEMENT, CITY MANAGEMENT, SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE'RE ALL WORKING TOWARDS THE GOAL OF HAVING AN EXCEPTIONAL FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE DO.

WHO IS OUR ACCREDITATION MANAGER? SO OUR ACCREDITATION MANAGER IS DEPUTY CHIEF JOHN FRASER.

HE HAS 23 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE.

HE'S BEEN PROMOTED THROUGH THE RANKS.

HE'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. AS I SAID, HE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, DESIGNATED CHIEF MS OFFICER WITH CSC, AND HE IS THE ACCREDITATION MANAGER SINCE 2019, WHEN WE DID ACHIEVE THE STATUS OF AN ACCREDITED AGENCY.

SO HE IS NOW IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING US FOR OUR NEXT ACCREDITATION.

IT TAKES EVERY FIVE YEARS WE HAVE TO DO THIS.

WE ALSO HAVE TO PUT IN AN A, AN ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REPORT EVERY YEAR, WHICH HE WORKS THROUGH THAT WITH EACH DIVISION IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, HERE'S CHIEF FRAZIER.

HE'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS JONATHAN FRASER.

I'M THE DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE.

SO TO OVERVIEW, LIKE THE CHIEF HAD MADE MENTION, THERE'S BASICALLY THERE'S SEVERAL CATEGORIES THAT GO ALONG WITH THE PROCESS.

AND ONE OF THEM IS A SEPARATE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE ORGANIZE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

PART OF THAT PLAN IS WE DO AN INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDER SURVEY.

WE'VE HAD WE'VE COMPLETED OUR INTERNAL STAKEHOLDER SURVEY.

AND IN THE PROCESS OF SOLICITING INPUT FROM OUR RESIDENTS, FROM VENDORS, FROM BUSINESSES, FROM ANYBODY THAT REALLY WANTS TO DO IT.

WE'VE SENT OUT THE SURVEY.

WE'VE KIND OF KIND OF PUT IT ON FREEZE FOR A MOMENT.

BUT IN THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RATE WHAT THEY FEEL WE DO WELL, WHAT WE DON'T DO WELL AND THEY ALSO INVITES THEM TO PARTICIPATE AS AN EXTERNAL COMPONENT OF OUR SURVEY.

SO ONE OF THESE, WHENEVER WE DO GET ALL OF OUR DATA BACK, WE WILL SIT DOWN AS A GROUP.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET A EVERY LEVEL OF THE ORGANIZATION FROM ENTRY LEVEL FIREFIGHTER, DRIVER, LIEUTENANT, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE CHIEFS.

AND WE GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE.

AND WE HAVE A SPACE ON THERE TO INCLUDE THEIR PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL ADDRESS, WHICH SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE RESPONDED ALREADY TO.

WE INVITE THEM IN AND SOLICIT THEIR INPUT AS WELL.

WITH THAT, WE USUALLY OBTAIN OUR SOME OF OUR STRATEGIC GOALS FROM THAT, FROM THE DATA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET FROM OUR BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR GOALS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SELF ASSESSMENT MANUAL.

THE SELF ASSESSMENT MANUAL IS IS A LENGTHY DOCUMENT.

WE TALK ABOUT ISO.

YOU'VE HEARD THAT TERM SHOT AROUND QUITE A BIT THROUGH THE INSURANCE SERVICES OFFICE.

ISO COVERS REALLY ABOUT 14% OF WHAT WE DO IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY ONLY LOOK AT FIRE OR FIRE TYPE CALLS.

WHERE IN IN REALITY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE DO, WE DO EVERYTHING FROM PUBLIC EDUCATION, CPR CLASSES COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, EMS THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF THINGS THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE AGENCY THAT ISO DOESN'T REALLY ACKNOWLEDGE BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF AN OLDER SCHOOL, MID-WESTERN FIRE

[03:35:03]

BUT BUT OUR ISO RATING IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

SO THE ACCREDITATION COVERS 100% OF WHAT WE DO.

PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I JUST DISCUSSED IT, THE COMMUNITY RISK ASSESSMENT, THAT'S A DOCUMENT THAT I WROTE.

IT IS A IT'S CALLED A STANDARD OF COVER.

AND IT BASICALLY IDENTIFIES ALL OF OUR RISKS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

ANY POTENTIAL RISKS, ANYTHING FROM FROM PANDEMICS TO HURRICANES, TORNADOES TO MASS SHOOTERS TO EMS CALLS, STRUCTURE FIRES OF ALL TYPES LOW, MODERATE AND HIGH.

SO THAT'S A DOCUMENT THAT I PREPARE.

IT'S QUITE IT'S BEEN KIND OF DESCRIBED AS A THESIS OF YOUR, OF YOUR, OF YOUR ORGANIZATION.

SO BETWEEN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH KIND OF GIVES US DIRECTION, THE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION, WHICH IS OUR STANDARD OF COVER, THAT'S OUR RISK ASSESSMENT AND THE SELF-ASSESSMENT MANDATORY MANUAL.

THERE IS GO BACK ONE.

THERE'S WHENEVER I DID, IT WAS 253 PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.

THERE'S CURRENTLY 250 94 OF WHICH ARE CORE COMPETENCIES, WHICH MEANS IF YOU DO IT, YOU PASS.

IF YOU DON'T DO IT, YOU DON'T GET ACCREDITED.

SO THERE ARE CERTAIN WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OF GOING FORWARD.

WE WENT WE WERE ACCREDITED ON THE NINTH EDITION.

CURRENTLY WE'RE ON THE 10TH EDITION.

THEY'RE COMING OUT WITH THE 11TH EDITION COMING UP.

SO IT'S CONSTANTLY A LIVING, LIVING ORGANISM.

THE WHOLE ACCREDITATION PROCESS, THERE'S NEVER AN END TO IT.

YOU KNOW, I TOLD ESTELLE IN CHIEF, ONE OF THE WORST BAD WORDS THAT YOU SAY ON THERE IS YOU.

YOU CALL IT A PROJECT, AND IT'S NOT A PROJECT.

A PROJECT HAS AN END DATE AND A AND A START DATE.

THIS IS A PROCESS WHICH MEANS IT CONTINUALLY GOES, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE CONTINUALLY TRYING TO IMPROVE UPON YOUR AGENCY.

SO THERE'S YOU NEVER REST ON YOUR LAURELS AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'RE ACCREDITED.

WE'RE DONE. YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

AND THAT'S KIND OF IT KIND OF PROMPTS YOU IF YOU LOOK AT OUR MEDS.

I MEAN, NOBODY SITS THERE AND SAYS, ALL RIGHT, I DID A GREAT JOB LAST YEAR.

SO FOR THE NEXT 19 YEARS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING.

THERE'S ALWAYS CONTINUING EDUCATION.

THERE'S ALWAYS CONTINUING CLASSES.

EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TO PROMOTE AND GET ON THROUGH.

AND THE SAME THING WITH, WITH THE WITH THE ACCREDITATION PROCESS, IT'S CONTINUALLY TO IMPROVE.

SO WHICH WAY WE GO FORWARD.

THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT I JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE.

THE STANDARD OF COVER.

IT'S BASICALLY A THESIS OF A RISK ANALYSIS THAT WE'VE DONE.

I'VE, YOU KNOW, BUILT THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A HERON'S FORMULA.

IT TAKES A EVERY POSSIBLE INDICATION OF EVERY POSSIBLE RISK AND GIVES YOU A THREE AXIS FORMULA, DEPENDING UPON A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA TO SEE WHAT SIZE RISK YOU HAVE. STRATEGIC PLAN.

LIKE I'VE SAID, WE STARTED IT.

WE IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A MAJOR COMPONENT.

WE'D LIKE IT TO OVERLAP WITH THE CITI STRATEGIC PLAN.

HOWEVER EVERYBODY HAS A A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

YOU LISTEN TO YOUR STAKEHOLDERS AND WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS.

AND WE IDEAL SITUATION IS THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME AND WE HAVE A COMMON GROUND, BUT IT BASICALLY GIVES US DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

WE DON'T ARBITRARILY PICK OUR GOALS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AS STRATEGIC PLANS.

BUT THE THE STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK IS WHAT PICKS IT FOR US.

IF WE ARBITRARILY PICKED IT, THEN WE'D ALWAYS COME UP WITH THE SAME THING.

AND PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.

REMEMBER I MENTIONED ON THERE ABOUT THE CORE COMPETENCIES THAT EITHER EITHER THEIR PASS OR FAIL, YOU DO IT OR YOU DON'T.

CORE COMPETENCY THREE BE THREE, WHICH MEANS THE AGENCY SOLICITS FEEDBACK AND DIRECT PARTICIPATION FROM INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE AGENCY'S GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, WHICH MEANS WE DON'T ARBITRARILY PICK IT.

IT'S THESE ARE PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.

SO THESE ARE THREE JUST HAPPENED.

I JUST HAPPENED TO GET THREE PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT PUT IN THERE, WHICH IS WHY WE DO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS WHY WE SOLICIT BOTH AN INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDER.

IT'S BECAUSE THEY THEY SOLICIT THEY MANDATE US TO DO SO.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THE INFORMATION WE GET IS, IS IT'S RAW.

IT'S IT'S AND IT'S TRUE.

IT'S NOT MANIPULATED IN ANY WAY.

THERE'S NO POLITICAL INDICATIONS OF IT.

OBVIOUSLY THE SIFTING PROCESS FROM ONCE WE GET THE INFORMATION, WE DO OUR SCAN, WE I MENTIONED WE'RE GOING TO GET A WE'LL SIT DOWN AND WE'LL HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT IDENTIFIED THAT THEY WANTED TO, TO BE INVOLVED IN IT, AS WELL AS EVERY LEVEL OF OUR ORGANIZATION.

WE WILL REVIEW IT.

WE'LL IDENTIFY WHAT OUR GOALS AND WHAT OUR GAPS ARE, AND WE'LL DEVELOP A GOAL TO FIX THOSE GAPS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

THIS JUST GOES OVER A LITTLE BIT OF OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ARBITRARILY PICK AN, A BUDGETARY ITEM TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S JUST THROW A DART AGAINST THE WALL AND LET'S JUST HIRE THREE PEOPLE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.

EVERYTHING IS IS PREPARED THROUGH AN ANALYSIS, AND IT'S ALL DATA DRIVEN IF THERE'S A NEED.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID TO SEVERAL TIMES WHENEVER WE'VE TAUGHT OTHER CLASSES.

OUR JOB IS NOT TO TAKE RISKS.

OUR JOB IS TO ASSESS A RISK, AND IT'S YOUR JOB TO DETERMINE IF YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OR NOT.

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YOU MAKE THE DECISION.

THAT'S WHAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

AND WHERE ARE WE NOW WITH IT RIGHT NOW? WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

BY DOING THE INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS WE HAVE TO HAVE.

PART OF THAT IS A THE SURVEY GOES OUT ON THE GROUND, AND WE JUST NEED YOUR BASICALLY YOUR BLESSING TO PUT IT OUT THERE BY 5:00 TODAY SO WE CAN PREPARE.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE'LL BE A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEHIND.

THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

TIMELINE IS NOW. I THINK WE WENT BACK A COUPLE SLIDES AND IN FORWARD.

THE CONFERENCE I JUST WENT TO TWO WEEKS AGO WAS IN ORLANDO.

THE NEXT TIME THAT IT COMES AROUND AGAIN, WHICH WILL BE IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD GO UP BEFORE THE ACCREDITATION BOARD.

IT'S A FIVE MEMBER PANEL OF THAT.

THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE FROM THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.

AND THERE'S SOMEBODY ELECTED AND THEY REPRESENT EVERY AGENCY SIZE.

SO THERE'LL BE REPRESENTATIVES FROM AGENCIES THAT ARE OUR SIZE SMALLER, LARGER, UP TO, YOU KNOW, 80 STATION, 80 STATION DEPARTMENTS.

BUT THEY WON'T BE ON OUR PANEL.

THERE'S ALSO SOMEBODY THERE FROM THE IAFF.

USUALLY IT'S A GLOBAL REPRESENTATIVE.

SO BUT THAT'S WHO IS REVIEWING OUR DOCUMENTS TO BASICALLY LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE'RE A CREDIBLE, VALID AGENCY.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. DANIEL. THANK YOU.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A NO BRAINER FOR ME.

I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU COME TO US FOR THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ONLY MAKES US BETTER.

SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A YES.

I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY WOULD COME TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE INFORMED.

OH, JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

WHEN YOU SEE IT OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SMALL BLIP IN THERE ABOUT THE ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND OUR QR CODE AND A LINK SO THEY CAN TAKE THE SURVEY. SO WE WANT YOU ALL TO BE AWARE THAT THAT'S COMING OUT.

SO THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW WATCH THIS.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET IN THERE AND IT'LL SAY WHAT IS YOUR YOU KNOW YEAH.

AFFILIATION WITH US.

WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN A YOU'RE A RESIDENT, ARE YOU A VENDOR OR ARE YOU A BUSINESS OWNER.

ARE YOU DO YOU, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOUR AFFILIATION WITH SO YOU CAN CLICK.

YES. SO THAT WAY WE CAN TAKE THAT DATA AND LOOK AT THE RESPONSE AND SAY, THIS IS WHERE OUR RESIDENTS THINK THIS IS WHAT OUR BUSINESS OWNERS THINK.

THIS IS WHAT YOU KNOW, AND FIND OUT IF WE'RE DOING OUR JOB AND WHERE WE SHOULD BE.

ACCREDITATION PROCESS.

AND I KNOW NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE, IT'S STILL NERVE WRACKING.

SO GOOD LUCK. WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.

BUT IT'S A IT'S A IT'S AN ELEPHANT.

YEAH. I'M SURE YOUR EXCELLENCE WILL SHINE.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS TURNED OVER BEFORE.

BUT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ARE WORKING EXTREMELY HARD IN MAINTAINING DIGNITY AND QUALITY IN TAMARAC AND TO PROTECT RESIDENTS LIVES AND PROPERTY.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN BE OF, OF HELP TO YOU IN THIS PROCESS I'D ABSOLUTELY BE HAPPY TO LEND MY EXPERTISE.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS.

THANK YOU. OR LACK THEREOF.

YOU KNOW, SO.

SO KUDOS TO YOU GUYS.

I REMEMBER SUPPORTING YOU GUYS IN ORLANDO WHEN WE WENT FOR THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS AN AWARD CEREMONY.

THAT'S. YES, WE TYPICALLY THEY DO A WE SEND THEM TO ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTATION TO A SHAREPOINT SITE.

IT'S A TEAM IS ASSIGNED.

I'M ACTUALLY A PEER ASSESSOR. I JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET OUT AND DO ANY OTHER AGENCIES FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND KIND OF BUSY.

AND THEN ONCE THEY LOOK AT OUR DOCUMENTS AND SAY EVERYTHING'S IN ORDER, WE'RE SCHEDULED A SITE VISIT FOR THEM.

SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY COME HERE AND THEY'RE SPENT 3 OR 4 DAYS.

AND THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE LAST TIME, YOU REMEMBER THEN THEY.

INTERVIEW EVERYBODY THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND LOOK AT THE LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTATION, MAKE SURE IT'S CREDIBLE AND THEN THEY'LL GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY EMPLOYEES.

WE DID THE AUDITORIUM AND THEN THAT RECOMMENDATION IT GOES TO THE BOARD.

NOW THE BOARD IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY SAY OKAY, THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN.

KIND OF LIKE CAESAR. OKAY. YOU'RE CREDIBLE.

AND THEN THE ACCREDITATION IS FOR FIVE YEARS FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO COME UP TO ME TO TELL ME THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR FIRE RESCUE AND OUR EMTS ARE JUST PHENOMENAL AND GREAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE PLANTS OR, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SENT TO TELL ME THAT YOU KNOW, BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN SO, YOU YOU GUYS HAVE LOTS OF FRIENDS OUT THERE, AND AND YOUR WORK SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY LOOKS NICE AND AND WILL, YOU KNOW, IS IS PROTECTED. AND WE, WE CHERISH THAT.

AND SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT AND I WANT YOU TO HEAR THAT PUBLICLY.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

[03:45:02]

AND AGAIN, GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR WRIGHT.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I'M GOING TO ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS OF COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

AND OVER THE PAST YEAR, I THINK I'VE BECOME A FIRE OFFICER.

I'VE DONE SO MUCH RESEARCH ON FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TIME TO TIME.

I'LL ASK QUESTIONS AND DO MY RESEARCH AND ALL THAT STUFF.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB IN WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF ALL THE AWARDS YOU'VE GOTTEN AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAD INITIALLY IN TERMS OF DIVERSITY AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE HR MANAGER AND HE'S, YOU KNOW, TELLING ME YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO TRY TO YOU KNOW, MAKE THE ORGANIZATION MORE DIVERSE. AND I SEE IT IN YOUR EFFORTS AS WELL WITH THE CADETS IN ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO DO A GOOD JOB.

AND I THINK I READ IN COCONUT CREEK, THEY WERE THEY WERE PART OF COCONUT CREEK, MARGATE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY DECIDED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE PART OF MARGATE.

ACTUALLY, THEY WANT TO DO IT HIMSELF BECAUSE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOCAL, LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND IN DOING THAT, IN TALKING TO A BUNCH OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, I LEARNED THAT.

AND I WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I AM NO LONGER IN FAVOR OF US JOINING BSO.

YOU KNOW, I'M I THINK, LIKE YOU MENTIONED IN THE SUN-SENTINEL ARTICLE, I THINK THE BSO FIRE IS A FINE DEPARTMENT.

YOU DID MENTION THAT IN THE ARTICLE, AND I THINK IT IS TRUE.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE BALANCE OF BSO FOR POLICE AND THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITY.

NOT JUST PEOPLE COMING UP AND TELLING ME WHAT YOU'VE DONE, BUT MY SISTER.

A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE JUST PURCHASED A HOME IN TAMARAC.

SHE WAS SHE WAS BARBECUING.

AND THEN SHE DIDN'T REALIZE SOMETHING WAS HAPPENING WITH THE BARBECUE.

BUT THE TAMARAC FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOWED UP AT HER HOME, YOU KNOW, AND SHE SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IS AMAZING.

SO THAT WAS A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE IN WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.

NOT NOT SOMEONE COMING UP TO TELL ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THINKING IT'S A PLANT OR WHATEVER.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PERSONALLY HAPPENED.

SO I AM IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S IT'S WHAT CITIES DO.

IT'S THE NORM. AND CERTAIN THINGS CAN BE QUANTIFIED.

THE RESPONSE TIME, THE VALUE OF A RESIDENT'S LIFE CAN'T BE QUANTIFIED.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW PUBLICLY THAT I'M NO LONGER IN SUPPORT OF US JOINING OUR BSO AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT.

INTERESTING. ONE OF THE PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, ACTUALLY, THAT WE WRITE TO, YOU MENTIONED THE DIVERSITY HIRING, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO SHOW THE BREAKDOWN IN YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS AND YOUR COMMUNITY WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN WHICH, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR, WHATEVER.

I TRY TO GET THE SAME INFORMATION FROM HR, AND I INCLUDE THAT IN OUR ANNUAL COMPLIANCE REPORT.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY WE'RE MAKING A PUSH FOR IT AS WELL.

UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES IT'S.

IT'S DIFFICULT.

SO THANK YOU.

SO BASICALLY I'M GOING TO JUST PUT IT OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW I THINK YOU'RE FANTASTIC.

YOUR WHOLE TEAM IS FANTASTIC.

YOU KEEP WINNING AWARDS.

AND WE'RE YOU'RE ASKING FOR CONFIRMATION SUPPORT OF A FIVE YEAR PLAN.

WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT BUDGET SOON.

I'M GOING TO PUT THIS OUT THERE.

WE DID IT BY CONSENSUS AT A STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING TO HAVE THIS GO OUT THERE FOR TRYING TO GO TO BSO.

WHY CONTINUE THE PROCESS IF WE CAN HAVE CONSENSUS NOW ON THIS DAIS RIGHT NOW TO STOP THAT PROCESS? WHY DON'T WE STOP THIS PROCESS AND GET THIS LOOMING EXTRA, EXTRA TIME AND CONCERN OVER WHETHER OR NOT TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE IS OUR FIRE RESCUE? AND JUST GET RID OF IT AND JUST SAY, WE'RE STAYING WITH OUR FIRE RESCUE.

SO COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT.

VICE MAYOR SAYS I SUPPORT COMMISSIONER DANIEL.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO COME WITH A LITTLE BIT OF COMMENTARY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, FIRE CHIEF, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT GETTING RID OF TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE IS NEVER THE THE GOAL.

THIS WAS TO EXPLORE WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY'S RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY.

IN KEEPING A ON PAR SERVICE FROM BSO WHILE MAINTAINING THE SAME LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE OVER THE COUPLE OF MONTHS.

LOOKING AT THIS, I REALIZED HOW MUCH TAMARAC TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE MEANS TO THE RESIDENTS.

I'VE SEEN HOW YOU GUYS WORK EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE IN THE DEPARTMENT.

SO I LONG CHANGED MY MY DANCE, AND I.

AND I BELIEVE YOU. YOU KNOW THAT AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PREMATURELY SAY IT TO YOU PUBLICLY THAT I SUPPORT TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE. AND I SUPPORT YOU GUYS REMAINING AS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

[03:50:03]

IT WAS MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHO YOU GUYS ARE, HOW MUCH YOU COST, AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE OUT THERE THAT WAS ON PAR WITH YOU AND AND AND BAR NONE, YOU ARE THE EPITOME OF EXCELLENCE.

YOU ARE THE DRIVER FOR SUCCESS IN THIS REGION.

AND I WOULD NOT BE IN SUPPORT OF SENDING OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY TO AN ORGANIZATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, LEADERS DON'T KNOW HOW TO TALK TO PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC.

ANYWAY. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE.

AND I ABSOLUTELY, 100% SUPPORT YOU.

AND FOR THE RECORD THE REASON WHY YOU WANTED TO GET RID OF THEM WAS BECAUSE THEY NEVER SUPPORTED YOU.

BECAUSE YOU BROKE SUNSHINE.

OKAY? NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TELL THEM TO BE QUIET.

AND YOU TOLD ME YOUR GOAL WAS TO GET RID OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO TO CLEAR THE RECORD, VILLALOBOS, FOR YOUR INFORMATION, DO NOT LIE ON THIS.

ON THIS WORKSHOP. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS FOR YOU TO ATTACK.

OUR BROWARD SHERIFF'S SHERIFF, THAT'S ANOTHER DISRESPECT.

SO, ACTUALLY, GENTLEMEN, YOU'RE BOTH QUIET NOW BECAUSE I GAVE YOU COURTESY BY YOU HAVING TO SPEAK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT NEEDED.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THE HISTORY.

IT IS FINE. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF RIGHT NOW, WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THE OTHER COMMENTS, IS THAT TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE IS MAINTAINING THEIR HOME IN TAMARAC AS THE EXCELLENT GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE PROVIDED SERVICES TO OUR CITY FOR MANY YEARS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE IN YEAR FIVE TO GO OVER AND CONTINUE OUR ACCREDITATION, CONTINUE TO DO THE WONDERFUL JOB THAT YOU HAVE.

PLEASE TELL ALL THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, AND WE WILL BE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE A CITY WIDE ANNOUNCEMENT AS A CITY DETERMINATION THAT THE CITY HAS MADE THE DECISION THAT WE WILL NO LONGER BE GOING FORWARD WITH ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION TO GO TO BSO.

THIS IS NOT ONE PERSON'S POWER OVER ANOTHER.

IT IS A COMMISSION DECISION, AND THE COMMISSION IS HAPPY TO KEEP TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE HERE.

THANK YOU. AND YOU'VE GOT YOUR CONSENSUS TO SEND OUT YOUR LITTLE EMAIL OR WHATEVER YOU NEEDED TO DO TO GET THE SURVEY OUT IF YOU HAD A NOTICE.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS, AND IT'S AN HONOR TO PROTECT AND SERVE AND SEE YOU TAMARAC.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

CITY MANAGER YEAH.

BEFORE WE CLOSE, MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT TODAY MARCH 11TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR YOUR TAMARAC ARTICLES.

SO OUR TELEGRAM ARTICLES, IF YOU HAVE NOT YET PUT THEM IN TWO LADIES, IT IS 210.

GO ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.

WE WILL SEE YOU AT 7 P.M.

ON WEDNESDAY THE 13TH IN CHAMBERS FOR OUR COMMISSION MEETING.

BE SAFE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.