5.a TR14022 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida approving and authorizing the deviation from Section 2-76 of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances entitled "Lien Reduction and Abatement Procedures", specifically Section 2-76 (4) (e), to review for consideration relief to reduce the lien accrual amounts on the property located at 3100-3224 West Commercial Blvd and 3102 NW 50 Street, owned by YDB Three Lakes; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing an effective date.

[5.a TR14022 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida approving and authorizing the deviation from Section 2-76 of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances entitled "Lien Reduction and Abatement Procedures", specifically Section 2-76 (4) (e), to review for consideration relief to reduce the lien accrual amounts on the property located at 3100-3224 West Commercial Blvd and 3102 NW 50 Street, owned by YDB Three Lakes; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing an effective date.]

ITEM FIVE A TR 14022.

CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ITEM FIVE A IS A RESOLUTION OF CITY COMMISSION.

CITY OF TAMARAC APPROVING AND AUTHORIZES THE DEVIATION FROM SECTION 2-76 OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCE ENTITLED LEAN REDUCTION AND ABATEMENT PROCEDURES, SPECIFICALLY, SECTION 2-764 TO REVIEW FOR CONSIDERATION RELIEF TO REDUCE THE LEAN ACCRUAL AMOUNTS OF THE PROPERTY. LOCATED AT 3132 24 WEST COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, 3102 NORTHWEST 55TH STREET, OWNED BY YTD.

THREE LAKES PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS.

PROVIDING SEVERABILITY. PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE.

SO MOVED. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

I HAVE A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT. I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WHO SIGNED UP, BUT IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.

OF Y DB THREE LAKES.

I'LL SEE. I'LL SAY FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE AGAIN, I HAD MY MIC OFF.

IT IS ADAM ANDERSON, PROPERTY MANAGER OF DB THREE LAKES LLC IS GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

REALLY? HOW DID THAT JUST HAPPEN? SHOULD I SAY WHAT BROUGHT US TO THIS SITUATION? BECAUSE THIS IS BASICALLY WHERE THE REMODELING COMES INTO IT.

YES. SO MUCH.

SO. OKAY, SO YOU DON'T HAVE THIS, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY. MY NAME IS ADAM ANDERSON.

I AM THE MANAGER OF THREE LAKE PLAZA FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS.

OR A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO REALLY GET INTO THE WHOLE SITUATION TO MAKE IT A BORING STORY.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET TO THE POINT OVER HERE.

I WAS CALLED IN FROM NEW YORK TO TEMPORARILY COME TO FLORIDA AND RESOLVE AN ISSUE THAT THE CITY HAD WITH THREE LAKE PLAZA, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY BIG PROBLEM OF $3.5 MILLION OF LIENS IN THIS PLAZA.

SADLY, THE MANAGER WHO WAS THERE BEFORE ME, PRIOR TO ME.

WAS LETTING OTHER PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S HANDLING IT.

IT'S NOT SUCH A BAD SITUATION.

IT'S NO LIFE SAFETY SITUATION.

IT'S ALL TENANTS NOT PULLING PERMITS, TENANTS NOT CLOSING PERMITS.

THAT'S THE MESSAGE THE NEW YORK GROUP GOT.

WHEN I CAME THERE.

I THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A ONE, TWO, THREE THING TO CLOSE.

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THE PROBLEM IS, MOST OF THESE THINGS I WILL.

I'M WE'RE IN THE WRONG.

I'M NOT COMING HERE TO SAY THAT WE'RE IN THE RIGHT.

BUT I DO WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW IT CAME TO THIS AMOUNT.

SO FOR INSTANCE THE AMOUNTS THAT EQUAL TO THIS, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT NUMBER TWO, AN AWNING THAT A TENANT PUT UP WITHOUT A WITHOUT A PERMIT FOR $184,000, LIEN FINES OF $400,000 IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE SIGNED VIOLATION EIGHT $66,000.

IT'S BASICALLY THAT HE PUT UP A SIGN AND HE DIDN'T GO FOR A PERMIT.

AGAIN, THAT IS NOT HE DID THE WRONG THING, BUT I JUST DID AMOUNTS THAT IT CAME TO.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS TREMENDOUS AND I'M HERE TO TRY TO RESOLVE IT, BUT AS YOU GO DOWN YOU SEE, HE PULLED THE PERMIT.

HE FORGOT TO CLOSE IT.

$344,000. ALL OF THESE AMOUNTS ARE VERY HIGH.

NOW, THERE ARE RULES.

I KNOW THERE ARE RULES. AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE RULES THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY, A PERSON THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK TO TO GIVE A PENALTY, $75, $250 AND THERE'S NO CAP.

AND THEN A LOT OF OTHER CITIES AGAIN, IT'S NOT I'M NOT TO MAKE THE RULES.

THEY WERE CAPS. SO THE PEOPLE BEFOREHAND THOUGHT LIKE AN EVENT OR SOMETHING.

OKAY, IT'LL CAP AT 5000 AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN WORK IT ALL OUT.

BUT THESE THESE AMOUNTS BECAME VERY, VERY BIG BECAUSE IT WAS IGNORED.

IT WAS IGNORED FOR ALL THIS AMOUNT OF TIME.

WHEN I CAME, I MET, I BECAME CLOSE WITH THE CITY.

I, GEORGE, JUST RETIRED AND HE WAS TRYING TO BE HERE, BUT HE COULDN'T HE'S ON VACATION RIGHT NOW.

SCOTT. GEORGE.

ROSEMARY, EVERYBODY.

I WORKED HAND BY HAND TO CLOSE IT.

NOW, IT WASN'T AN EASY.

AND IF YOU READ WHAT THE CITY WROTE, IT WASN'T EASY.

IT TOOK ME A GOOD TWO YEARS TO CLOSE IT, BECAUSE I CAME THEN, AND I HAD TO GO BACKWARDS OF TEN YEARS TO FIND THE PERMIT TO REOPEN THE PERMIT TO CLOSE THE PERMIT.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY IN DEFENSE, NONE OF IT IS LIFE SAFETY.

AGAIN, THAT'S NOT YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU CAN HELP OUT WITH MY ANSWER BASED ON THAT, MOST OF IT IS BASICALLY ON PERMITS THAT WERE IMPOSED OR A TENANT PUT UP A SIGN, AN AC, NOT CLOSING.

I MEAN, IT'S IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, IT'S RIGHT THERE, IT'S 90, THERE'S EVERYTHING IS WHAT A TENANT DID.

AND NEW YORK WASN'T CONTROLLING IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW OF IT.

I AGREE THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT.

BUT THIS IS HOW WE GOT OVER HERE.

SO IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO COME AND BASICALLY CLOSE IT ALL OUT.

NOW, IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE IGNORED IT FOR TEN YEARS.

THIS HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR A WHILE, BUT IT CAME TO A POINT THAT WE WANTED TO COME TO THE CITY IN ORDER TO SHUT DOWN THE LIENS TO TO HAVE A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH. COVID CAME IN BETWEEN.

SO WE WE TRIED TO HAVE A MEETING.

I MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WE MET WITH THE WITH THE JUDGES.

WE OFFERED MONEY.

THEY CAME BACK AND THEY OFFERED 585,000 TO CLOSE ALL THIS OUT.

BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING IN MY HAND BECAUSE GEORGE ALWAYS TOLD ME, ADAM, YOUR SHOPPING CENTER, THAT YOU MANAGE, THAT YOUR PEOPLE IS ON THE 31ST AND COMMERCIAL.

IT'S THE CORNER OF WHERE I FORGOT THE AMOUNT OF CARS HE EMAILED ME OF HOW MANY PEOPLE PASSED.

THE CITY IS NOT HERE TO JUST PENALIZE YOU.

THE CITY WANTS EVERY SHOPPING CENTER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

THAT IS WHY WE GIVE VIOLATIONS, NOT TO GO PUT SOMEBODY IN BANKRUPTCY OR TO TAKE AWAY THEIR SHOPPING CENTER.

YES, IT WAS IGNORED AND WE RESPECT THE FACT.

AND YOU CAN ASK ANYBODY WHO'S IN THE CITY.

I'M ON THE PHONE WITH THEM DAILY.

I MET A THE WHAT'S HIS LET ME I HAVE A POLICE OFFICER.

THE DEPUTY OF JUST CALLED ME THREE WEEKS AGO AND HE ASKED ME, ADAM, WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH HOMELESS.

WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM AT NIGHT TIME.

I WENT AND I HAVE MY I.

WE HIRED A PRIVATE SECURITY WHO'S SITTING THERE RIGHT NEXT TO ME, MR. JAMES. HE GOES THERE, HE DOES HIS ROUNDS FOR ME TO TRY TO HELP OUT, BECAUSE I DON'T EXPECT EVERY TIME SOMEONE SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR, I'M GOING TO GO CALL THE POLICE.

THEY SHOULD COME. SO WE HE ASKED ME FOR HELP, AND THEY EVEN GAVE ME A PROPOSAL THAT I CAN HIRE THEIR OWN.

SO I'M WORKING WITH EVERYBODY TO TRY TO MAKE THIS MALL A VERY PRETTY PLACE.

IT CAME TO A POINT A LOT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE COME AND THEY TRIED TO CLOSE THE LIENS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SELL THE PROPERTY.

WHAT? THEY'RE GOING TO A BANK.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SELL THE PROPERTY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO THE BANK.

I'M COMING HERE TO ASK THE CITY.

WE OFFERED $100,000.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED BACK THEN.

AND GEORGE SAID WE OFFERED 50 THEN GEORGE SAID, PICK IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

LET ME GO BACK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE THEY WANT 15%, WHICH IS $580,000.

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THAT'S WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WANTED.

SO SO I SAID, BUT LISTEN, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY 585 AND I SPENT TO CLOSE ALL THESE THINGS.

THEY KNOW THE INVOICE IS TWO $300,000.

SO CAN YOU HELP ME A LITTLE BIT? SO GEORGE AND THE CITY TOLD ME, WHY DON'T YOU GO AND OFFER TO MAKE THE PROPERTY MORE NICER AND UPGRADE? SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

I MONUMENT SIGNED PAVING, DOING ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT THAT I THOUGHT WOULD HELP.

SO HE SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THESE LITTLE THINGS, PICK UP THE $50,000 A LITTLE BIT.

SO I WENT TO 100 AND THEN I GAVE THEM THESE, THE 100 I GOT THE APPROVAL OF 100,000 WITH A FEW LITTLE NICE STUFF TO DO IN THE SHOPPING CENTER IN BETWEEN WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING.

IT GOT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT TOUGH OUT THERE.

WE LOST BOSTON MARKET, WE HAD A WE HAD A FIRE AND FAMILY DOLLAR.

SOME PERSON WALKED IN, LIT A MATCH AND THE WHOLE PLACE WENT DOWN.

WE HAD TO CLOSE DOWN THE WHOLE ENTIRE SECTION FOR ABOUT A YEAR.

BUT WE HAVE A BRAND NEW FAMILY DOLLAR THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO BOSTON MARKET WENT BANKRUPT.

I'M TRYING TO BRING SOMEBODY IN.

CITIBANK JUST CALLED ME TO TRY TO MAYBE TAKE THAT OUT PARCEL.

WE'RE DOING WHATEVER WE CAN, BUT FOR US TO GET TO THAT LEVEL, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND DO A SUBSTANTIAL UPDATE.

AND GEORGE SAYS THIS WOULD BE PERFECT IF YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND SHOW THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY, IT'S THE CORNER 31ST AND COMMERCIAL.

IF THE CITY SEES THAT YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING NICE, YOU HAVE A GOOD SHOT TO TO AT LEAST MAKE HELP THEM WORK WITH YOU, BECAUSE THAT IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS.

SO THE ONLY THING I REALLY WANTED TO SHOW IS WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO THE CITY TO BUILD.

HOW DO WE DO THAT? TO GET TO THE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT'S THE ENDING.

SO THIS THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

SO WE FLEW IN A DESIGNER.

I'M GOING TO GO FROM THE BEGINNING.

SO. THIS IS WHAT THREE LAKES NOW LOOKS LIKE WITH THE WINN-DIXIE.

I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE CLEANED IT UP, BUT THESE ARE PICTURES THAT WE TOOK OVER THE LAST 6 TO 8 MONTHS.

WHAT WE WHAT WE ARE OFFERING TO, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, NOT OFFERING WHAT WE REALLY, REALLY WANT TO DO.

AND I BROUGHT MY GC THERE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE PROPOSALS.

I'M READY TOMORROW TO PULL THE PERMIT AND ANYTHING THAT THIS ANYTHING THAT THE CITY CAN HELP ME WITH ON THIS CASE I'M WILLING TO MAKE.

I'M, I HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO MAKE IT CONTINGENT OF THE SHOPPING CENTER TO END UP LOOKING TO WHAT I'M JUST SHOWING THE CITY RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS THE EXISTING TENANTS THEY ALL GOT.

THEY ALL KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, THE SHOPPING.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TOTALLY REDOING THE OUTSIDE, TOTALLY REDOING THE LANDSCAPING WITH LIGHTING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PILLARS RESURFACING A BRAND NEW PARKING LOT, AND I'M NOT GOING TO.

I'M WILLING TO MAKE ANY CONDITIONS.

I AM NOT GOING TO GO CHEAP ON THIS.

WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY I TELL YOU.

I COULDN'T GET.

I SHOWED THIS TO STARBUCKS AND STARBUCKS CARD SAYS, YOU GUARANTEE ME YOU BUILD THIS, I'LL COME ONTO THAT.

OUTPARCEL. SO WE'RE WE'RE DOING WHATEVER WE CAN RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT.

NEW YORK IS GIVING ME A PROBLEM.

YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH.

YOU CAN'T GO. AND I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR BOTH.

I CAN'T GO AND PAY FOR THE LIENS DOWN ON THIS.

MAYBE YOU COULD APPROACH THE CITY IF THEY THE WAY THEY GUIDED YOU.

IN A WAY. MAYBE THAT THEY CAN ALSO HELP YOU OUT WITH.

BECAUSE I HAD ANOTHER SHOPPING CENTER THAT I WAS WORKING WITH IN NORTH MIAMI ON SEVENTH AVENUE, THE SHOPRITE SHOPPING CENTER WERE AUTOZONE WAS THE CITY HAD SOME CRAS THEY GAVE TO HELP OUT UP DOING IT.

IF YOU DO UNSOLD THE LIGHT BECAUSE ALL THE LIGHTS ARE COMING OUT, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING PARKING LOTS, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING STOREFRONTS, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING WHATEVER IT TAKES. THAT ALSO IS AN ENERGY THAT SOMETIMES I CAN FIND A PROGRAM FOR IT.

BUT TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, RIGHT NOW, MY MY REQUEST IS IF THE CITY WOULD ACCEPT ON CONDITIONS THAT I BUILD THIS OUT AND INSTEAD OF THE 590,000 THAT THE CITY WANTED US TO PAY, I'M ABOUT TO.

MY GROUP HAS HELPED TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS.

THIS IS ALMOST $1 MILLION PROJECT.

I WON'T SAY A MILLION BETWEEN 5 TO 700 FOR SURE.

I CAN SHOW THE INVOICES AND EVERYTHING.

IF WE GO OVER THE 591, IF WE GO OVER THE 600,000, IF WE GO OVER SEVEN, IF WE GET THE 700, LET IT BE.

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THE CITY WOULD GIVE ME SOME SORT OF A PENALTY FOR THE LIENS AND LET US, UPON COMPLETION, RELEASE THE LIENS.

IF NOT, WHAT WOULD THE CITY BE INTERESTED? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO A THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WE GAVE 100,000 AND TO DO A FEW LITTLE THINGS IS NOT GOING TO IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE ENOUGH FOR THE CITY, IN MY OPINION, AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY SEE A MUCH NICER MALL.

SO I'M, I'M, I'M THROWING MYSELF AT THE CITY OVER HERE AND ASKING IF THERE'S, IF, IF ANYTHING YOU CAN DO FOR ME OVER HERE TO CLOSE OUT THESE LIENS AND ACCEPT AN OFFER FROM US.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, MR. MAYOR. SO WE HAVE MAXINE CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND TONY PALACIOS INTERIM BUILDING OFFICIAL, AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION.

COMMISSION. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO COMMISSIONER.

DOCTOR DANIEL. MISS CALLOWAY, HOW LONG WERE WAS THE PLAZA IN OUT OF COMPLIANCE FOR THE MONEY TO ADD UP TO THAT MUCH? OH, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

THE FIRST SETTLEMENT WAS OFFERED IN 2018, AND IT'S BEEN ONGOING.

BUT JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO VIOLATIONS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST.

SO ALL THE VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLIED WITH.

THERE AS OF WHEN WERE THE VIOLATIONS? AS OF TODAY, THAT'S AS OF I'M REPORTING NOW.

THERE ARE NO VIOLATIONS.

THERE ARE SOME OPEN PERMITS THAT EXIST, BUT THIS IS CUSTOMARY WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAZA, YOU HAVE TENANTS THAT ARE MOVING IN.

THERE'S A PERMIT PULLED FOR MANY THINGS.

SO YOU DO HAVE SOME OPEN PERMITS? SIX OPEN PERMITS ON ONE OF THE ADDRESS AND ONE OPEN PERMIT ON THE SECOND ADDRESS.

WHAT THE MR. ANDERSON IS REFERRING TO IS A COMPILATION OF 12 CODE COMPLIANCE LIENS OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL YEARS AND 21 BUILDING LIENS OVER THE COURSE OF THAT SAME PERIOD, ALL OF WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLIED WITH.

AND SO WE INVITED MR. ANDERSON TO COME HERE TODAY AND MAKE THIS PRESENTATION, BECAUSE THE CODE SAYS THAT IF THE MAGISTRATE WERE TO ORDER FORECLOSURE ON A PROPERTY IN THIS CASE, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED THEN ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO MAKE THAT SETTLEMENT THAT NOW FALLS ON YOU.

SO. OKAY, I THINK YOU LOST ME.

YOU SAID THE MAGISTRATE.

WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE THE MAGISTRATE IS ORDERING FORECLOSURE.

SO I'M EXPLAINING THAT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS BEFORE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I THINK YOU'VE SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

THE CODE PROVIDES FOR ADMINISTRATIVELY, WE ARE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AND SETTLE LIENS.

AND WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME.

BUT WHEN A PROPERTY HAS GONE TO THE MAGISTRATE AND THERE IS A FORECLOSURE THAT WAS ORDERED, THE CITY DID NOT PROCEED.

WE STARTED THE SETTLEMENT DISCUSSION.

THEN ADMINISTRATIVELY, STAFF IS NO LONGER IN A POSITION TO TO MAKE THAT SETTLEMENT THAT NOW HAS TO COME TO THE COMMISSION.

SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU'RE SEEING THIS APPLICATION.

NO, NO, NO, I WAS JUST BEING CLEAR.

SO THE PLAZA WENT TO THE MAGISTRATE FOR FORECLOSURE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT THE CITY FOUND. NO. WE WENT TO THE MAGISTRATE BECAUSE THEY'D BE.

WE CALLED FOR THE MAGISTRATE TO TRY TO USUALLY GO IN FRONT OF A MAGISTRATE TO NEGOTIATE THIS.

THE MAGISTRATE SAID THE CITY CAME AND SAYS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT WHILE THERE ARE STILL VIOLATIONS OPEN.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S BEEN YEARS.

IT'S BEEN CLOSED SINCE THE FIRST TIME WE TRIED TO MAKE A SETTLEMENT.

ALL THESE LIENS ARE CLOSED FOR YEARS.

ALL THESE VIOLATIONS ARE CLOSED FOR YEARS.

SO ALL THESE VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN CLOSED.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU WHEN WAS THE END? WHEN THE VIOLATIONS WERE CLOSED.

YOU SAID UP TO TODAY.

BUT HE SAID IT'S BEEN CLOSED FOR YEARS.

YES, YES. SO WHEN THE SETTLEMENT STARTED IN 2018, MUCH OF THE VIOLATIONS HAD BEEN COMPLIED WITH.

SO ALL THE VIOLATIONS WERE FIXED AS OF 2018? YES. AND I'M SAYING AS OF TODAY, THERE ARE NO VIOLATIONS THAT EXIST ON THE PROPERTY.

I'VE BEEN ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT SHE WAS NOT MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A REPEAT, IS WHAT I BELIEVE SHE'S SAYING.

SO WHEN I CAME INTO THE PROPERTY INTO FROM 2012 TO 20 14 OR 17 WAS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, I CAME, IT TOOK ME A YEAR TO CLOSE IT OUT.

AND IF THE CITY ACTUALLY WRITES IT IN THEIR REPORT THAT IT TOOK A LONG TIME AND I WORKED WITH THEM, BUT WE CLOSED IT RIGHT AWAY.

IN BETWEEN THEM THERE WAS A HEARING AND THE MAGISTRATE COULDN'T MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE HE'S NOT BY RULING. I HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING CLOSING.

I CAN'T EVEN HAVE A PERMIT OPEN.

SO THAT'S WHY IT WENT.

IT COULDN'T GET RESOLVED AT THAT DAY.

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AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY, SO THEY NEVER HAD AN INTENTION TO DO THE FORECLOSURE.

THEY JUST SAID WE HAVE TO SETTLE IT AND WE COULDN'T SETTLE IT WITH THE CITY.

I HAVE TO ONLY BE ABLE TO SETTLE IT HERE.

SO WHAT WOULD MAKE US TRUST YOU MOVING FORWARD? THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO FROM.

WELL, THAT'S WHY I CAN RESPOND TO THAT.

SO BECAUSE IT'S BEFORE YOU.

WHAT NORMALLY RESULT IN THIS TYPE OF SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATION IS A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE ENTERED INTO WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO YOU DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO ACCEPT WHAT'S BEING OFFERED IN TERMS OF THE SETTLEMENT AMOUNT.

WE ENTER INTO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

WE CAN ATTACH THESE AS EXHIBITS TO THAT AGREEMENT.

THAT AGREEMENT NORMALLY HAVE A PERFORMANCE TIME FRAME.

THEY HAVE TO DELIVER THIS WORK WITHIN A TIME CERTAIN.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE TERMS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN A SETTLEMENT.

AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY IF THEY DON'T.

BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE AT THIS POINT IF THEY DID.

WE HAVE NEVER ENTERED IN A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

I KNOW, BUT I'M SAYING JUDGING FROM PAST, THEY USUALLY DON'T COMPLY WITH CITY.

I'M GLAD TO HEAR SINCE 2018 YOU HAVE SINCE I CAME.

SO PUTTING STUFF IN, WRITING, PUT IN LEAN.

OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE THAT THE WORK THE PLAZA WILL LOOK THIS BEAUTIFUL, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF MY PET PEEVES.

CAN WE FIX UP THE PLAZAS? BUT WE CAN ALWAYS PUT IN THAT SETTLEMENT THAT IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, I'M BACK TO WHERE I'M STANDING RIGHT NOW, SO NOBODY LOSES ANYTHING ON THAT.

YEAH, WE LOSE TIME AND TIME WE CAN'T GET BACK.

I CAN JUST ALL I CAN SAY IS, IF YOU CAN ASK ANYBODY WHO HAS WORKED WITH ME IN THE CITY FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, A CALL COMES IN, I'M THERE.

AND IF YOU IF YOU CAN SEE FROM 2018 TO 2024 THAT I DON'T HAVE A LEAN, I DON'T HAVE A VIOLATION.

ALL THEY CAN, ALL THAT THE CITY SHOWS US PERMITS, WHICH IS EVERYBODY HAS A PERMIT.

YOU WANT TO GO AND DO SOMETHING, THEY OPEN A PERMIT.

SO WHAT WILL YOU DO TO GUARANTEE.

THAT'S WHAT I ASKED ORIGINALLY.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU ASK ME.

I GUARANTEE IT WITH MY WITH EVERYTHING I'VE DONE UNTIL NOW, THE PROOF I'VE DONE UNTIL NOW, I'M GOING TO GIVE IT MY HEART AND I'M GOING TO ANYTHING YOU WANT ME.

I'LL PERSONALLY GUARANTEE IT.

YOU OWN IT. I DON'T OWN IT.

BUT. BUT IT'S.

BUT IT'S EXTREMELY CLOSE.

FAMILY MEMBERS, SO I SPEAK FOR THEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER, I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY WANTED TO ADD TO MY COMMENTS.

YES. COMMISSIONER DANIEL, THE SELLER AGREEMENT, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE, AND MISS CALLOWAY WILL BASICALLY ENSURE COMPLIANCE.

THE LIENS WILL OBVIOUSLY REMAIN AS PART OF THE CONDITION PRECEDENT FOR COMPLIANCE.

IF HE DOESN'T COMPLY, WE COULD ALWAYS IMPOSE ORIGINALLY.

AND THOSE THINGS ACCUMULATE.

SO HE WILL HAVE A HAMMER IF WE NEED TO.

SO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. YOU KNOW, SO IT'S IT'S GOOD TO MEET YOU HERE.

TODAY THAT'S MY DISTRICT OUT EAST.

AND WHENEVER PEOPLE ASK ME IF THAT PLAZA IS TAMARAC, I GENERALLY JUST PAUSE AND BE SILENT AND NEVER ANSWER BECAUSE I'M NOT PROUD OF IT. AND SO I'M I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE ARE SOME EFFORTS TO TRY TO FIX THAT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY A FIXED PLAN TO, TO FIX THIS PLAZA.

AND THE REASON WHY I DRAW THAT CONCLUSION IS BECAUSE YOU YOU DON'T HAVE A SET BUDGET AS TO WHAT THE REPAIRS WILL BE.

SO YOU SAY 500 COULD BE 600, COULD BE 700, COULD BE A MILLION.

AND WHEN I, WHENEVER I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING COULD BE IT, IT MEANS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAN.

SO WHAT IS YOUR PLAN AND WHAT IS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PLAN? OKAY. SO I TELL YOU, FROM WHAT I HAVE DONE I, I HAVE BUILT, NOT BUILT, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN OTHER LANDLORDS DOING BUILD OUTS LIKE THIS.

THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING I DON'T KNOW THE COST IS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE.

I HAVE MY ASSISTANT OVER HERE HAPPENS TO HAVE THREE ESTIMATES THAT I ALREADY PULLED, BUT LAY ON ONE ESTIMATE ON LABOR IS $400,000.

THIS IS WITHOUT MATERIAL THE PROBLEM, AND THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT 420.

BUT THIS IS JUST TO DO THE PARKING LOT.

WHEN YOU'RE DOING A JOB LIKE THIS, THERE'S ELECTRICITY THAT YOU NEED.

THERE'S STUCCO THAT YOU NEED.

THERE IS LIGHTING THAT YOU NEED.

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THERE'S PAINTING THAT YOU NEED.

AND THE PROBLEM TODAY IS IT'S THE CREW.

THE PRICING GOES TODAY LIKE THIS, AND TOMORROW IT'S TO FIND A GOOD CREW.

BUT AS FAR AS TO DO THIS, I CAN SHOW YOU 20 PROJECTS THAT I HAVE DONE.

SO. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE RIGHT.

I SAID WE DON'T KNOW FOR WE DON'T KNOW FIVE.

WE DON'T KNOW SEVEN.

ONLY BECAUSE THE COST OF MATERIAL BUT THE LABOR I HAVE THE PEOPLE, I HAVE THE GCS AND I CAN I, I DIDN'T GO TO THAT LEVEL TO GET PRECISE BECAUSE IT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENS HERE.

IF I'M ABLE TO SUCCEED OVER HERE, I CAN IN THE PROPOSAL, I CAN EVEN WRITE DOWN WITHIN 30 DAYS BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW WHAT NEEDS.

I WILL HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN TO SHOW YOU.

WHAT'S YOUR NAME? ADAM. ANDERSON.

ADAM. REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS HERE, YOU SHOULD STILL BE FIXING YOUR PLAZA.

AGREED. SO IT SHOULD NOT BE A CONDITION OF WHAT WE SAY.

YOU SHOULD ALREADY HAVE A PLAN TO FIX YOUR PLAZA, SO I'D BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF YOU HAVE A SET PLAN.

A PLAN THAT OUTLINES WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THEM, AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

SO THANK YOU.

BUT LET ME. AND THAT IS HOW PEOPLE MAKE SOUND DECISIONS.

I'M NEVER IMPRESSED BY PRETTY PICTURES IN A PAPER, BECAUSE WHEN DEVELOPERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS COME HERE WITH RENDERINGS LIKE THIS, I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE TO TO TO SEE THAT THE FINISHED PRODUCT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS.

AND WHAT IS YOUR MAINTENANCE PLAN? HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAINTAIN THE NEW UPGRADES? YOU KNOW, SO FOR NOW, THAT'S A RHETORICAL BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

BUT HERE'S A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

ARE YOU PLANNING TO SELL THE PROPERTY? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

OKAY, SO IF THIS SHOULD GO THROUGH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A CONDITION PRECEDENT THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT SELL THIS PROPERTY WITHIN X NUMBER OF TIME.

AND IF IT'S THE COMMISSION'S PREROGATIVE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT TIME IS, BECAUSE TOO OFTEN PEOPLE USE THE CITY, GET ABATEMENT FOR ALL THESE THINGS, FIX THE PROPERTY UNDER YOUR MARGIN OF OF OF PROFIT, AND THEN FLIP THE PROPERTY AND SELL IT.

THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE USED IN THAT SORT OF.

AGAIN, I AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I JUST HAD THAT SITUATION ON ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT MY GROUP ENDED UP PURCHASING, AND THEY MADE A DEAL WITH THE PERSON PRIOR STATING THAT IF YOU SELL THE PROPERTY, THE LIENS DO NOT GO AWAY.

IT GOES TO THE NEW OWNERSHIP AND THE CITY ATTORNEY ACTUALLY PUT IT IN, AND WE ENDED UP HAVING TO GO IN FRONT OF THE BOARD TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW WHAT THE OLD PEOPLE DOING, AND IT'S UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE IF THAT HAPPENS.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO US ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO.

SO THANK YOU, SIR.

I'VE BEEN MONITORING THIS PROPERTY FOR A WHILE BECAUSE I OF COURSE IT'S MY DISTRICT.

I'M NOT PROUD OF IT. AND I AND AND I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO COMPLY.

AND AND WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE OFFERED TO COME IN AND EVEN.

HELP YOU TO RENOVATE THE PLAZA.

AND AND WAWA WAS ONE OF THEM.

DOES THAT RING A BELL? WAWA. ACTUALLY.

GAS STATION WAWA GAVE ME AN LOI.

I'M IN TALKS WITH THEM RIGHT NOW TO TAKE THE BUS TO MARKET.

SO WAWA STARBUCKS AND CITIBANK, ALL THREE OF THEM.

THE PROBLEM ABOUT WAWA ISN'T THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT WE'RE TALKING TO THAT WE DON'T WANT ENVIRONMENT YOU PUT A GAS STATION IN AND ALSO WINN-DIXIE.

THAT IS A I'M SORRY, I JUST I JUST CAN'T HEAR YOU.

OH. I LOVE BABIES AND I AND I ACTUALLY WANT MORE SEVEN MORE, BUT I JUST I JUST CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE WONDERFUL TUNE OF THE BABY CRYING.

I DON'T RUN THE MEETING.

SO WAWA WE HAPPEN TO.

I HAPPEN TO KNOW THE FIRST PROBLEM OF WAWA IS ON OUR SIDE.

SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THE BEST BECAUSE OF ENVIRONMENT.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT A GAS STATION IN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ENVIRONMENT HAPPENS.

BUT WAWA, STARBUCKS AND CITIBANK, ALL THREE ARE INTERESTED IN THAT LOCATION.

WAWA LESS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THEY HAVE BY ANOTHER ONE.

AND I HAVE LOI'S AND ALL THREE OF THEM WOULD COME IN ON CONDITIONS.

I DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SO TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, YOU'RE CORRECT.

BUT AS THE COMMISSIONER OF TAMARAC, I WILL MAKE YOU PROUD.

AND I MEAN, IT'S MORE THE RESONANCE.

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I'M PROUD BECAUSE. YES, BUT YOU PRESENT.

YOU PRESENT THE RESONANCE.

I MEANT YOU AND AND THAT COMMUNITY.

OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST PLACED ON THE, ON THE FLOOR THAT BIT OF CONDITION THAT IF THIS SHOULD GO THROUGH, THEN THE COMMISSION SHOULD NUMBER ONE LOOK AT THE PLANS OVERALL THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE PROPERTY.

NUMBER TWO, GIVE A SOLID NUMBER A BUDGET THAT GOES WITH THAT PLAN.

AND NUMBER TWO, IT COMES A CONDITION PRECEDENT THAT YOU WILL NOT SELL THE PROPERTY IN X AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND IT'S THE COMMISSION'S PREROGATIVE IF THEY WANT TO ENTERTAIN THAT.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

MISS MAXINE. THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THEY PAID A.

CLOSE TO $300,000 IN PERMITS.

IS THAT TRUE? I CAN VERIFY AND SEE IF THAT'S ACCURATE.

BUT IF THE APPLICANT IS SAYING NOT 300 AND PERMIT 300 TO CLOSE 66 VIOLATIONS, 300,000 TO CLOSE.

YES. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HIRING PEOPLE, FIXING THINGS.

OVERALL, GEORGE KNOWS VERY WELL.

AND SCOTT ALSO KNOWS VERY WELL WHAT WE HAVE DONE.

I USED TO BE WITH THEM ALL THE TIME.

CAN WE GET SOME CONFIRMATION OR JUST WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WAS? I'M LOOKING THROUGH MY NOTES BECAUSE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE ALREADY ANSWERED.

SO GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

PAINTING THE CENTER AT THAT TIME AT 2018, WE STEEL COATED IT.

ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE HAD TO DO.

MISS MAXINE, WERE THEY? CAN THEY APPLY FOR THE GRANT? THE PLAZA GRANT? NO. ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THEY ARE NO VIOLATIONS ON THE PROPERTY.

SO AT THE TIME, I THINK IT WAS BEING CONSIDERED THEY WERE NOT QUALIFIED TO APPLY.

WE WERE DENIED. YEAH.

THEY WANTED TO GIVE ME A $250,000.

WHAT ABOUT THE INTERIORS OF THE EACH UNIT? AS LONG AS IT'S NOT RENTED, THAT IS IN OUR WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT LIKE.

BUT TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, BY LAW, IF A TENANT IS INSIDE, WE CAN'T ENFORCE HOW THEY DECORATE THEIR PLACE.

THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS WE CAN MAKE NICE STOREFRONTS BECAUSE THAT IS IN OUR POWER AND THAT IS IN OUR PLAN AND THE LIGHTING.

BUT INSIDE.

SORRY. HOW MANY UNITS ARE EMPTY CURRENTLY? ABOUT SEVEN.

OKAY. AND THAT'S IF IF IT'S THE.

COMMISSION'S DESIRE TO PUT THAT ALSO INTO THE SETTLEMENT TO GET THOSE FIXED UP.

YES. I THINK WAWA WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.

JUST. I'M NOT. I LOVE WAWA.

BUT WE HAVE A GAS STATION ACROSS THE STREET.

7-ELEVEN. RIGHT.

EXACTLY. SO DEFINITELY NOT A WAWA.

AGAIN, I LOVE WAWA, BUT STARBUCKS IS OUR NUMBER ONE.

AND CITIBANK.

IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE TWO.

THE BOTH OF THEM ARE FULL FORCE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PICK IT UP AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

WHAT? IF I MAY ASK, WHICH ONE WOULD THE COMMISSIONER PREFER BETWEEN A CITIBANK OR A STARBUCKS? THAT'S NOT OKAY.

I JUST, I THINK I UNDERSTAND.

YES. SO JUST FOR MY POINT OF VIEW, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TO THIS COMMISSION THE $100,000 JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIME IT TOOK STAFF TIME. YOU KNOW, I AM VERY PRO BUSINESS AND ALSO PRO STAFF AND PRO RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY. BUT WE DO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THE SEVERITY OF THIS ISSUE, AND IT'S HAS COME TO US BECAUSE THAT'S HOW SEVERE IT WAS OR IS.

$3 MILLION IN FINES IS PRETTY HEFTY.

WE KNOW THAT 584,000 IS NOT SO BAD WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO 3,100,000.

I THINK IT'S KIND OF A SLAP IN OUR FACE.

NOT SAYING, BUT I THINK THAT'S VERY LOW.

I THINK SPENDING $1 MILLION IN THE PLAZA IS VERY FEASIBLE.

AND IT WILL DEFINITELY IMPROVE THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY VALUE.

DEFINITELY. I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER TO THE RIGHT OF ME THAT WE DO NEED TO SET UP A TIMELINE.

HOW LONG DO YOU EXPECT THIS WILL TAKE IF ONCE YOU GIVE IT.

OKAY, LET'S SAY ONCE YOU START, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED TO FINISH THE PROJECT?

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WELL, I WILL DO EVERYTHING ON MY END TO NOT STOP AND I CAN PUT THAT IN.

NOW THE QUESTION IS WE.

YOU HAVE TO CALL INSPECTIONS.

INSPECTOR HAS TO COME.

THEY HAVE TO INSPECT IT.

THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

FAMILY DOLLAR, WHICH THEY CAME WITH A GROUP FROM CORPORATE AMERICA.

IT TOOK THEM A YEAR BETWEEN THE PLANS AND THIS AND THAT JUST FOR THE FAMILY DOLLAR.

AND THEY WERE DOING EVERYTHING OKAY, GIVEN IT WAS RIGHT AFTER COVID AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

BUT WHEN YOU DO A RENOVATION LIKE THIS, YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO SHUT DOWN THE SHOPPING CENTER.

SO YOU DO IT BY PARTS OUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE PERMITTING AND IF YOU TAKE AWAY ALL THE, ALL THE IF YOU DEDUCT NO PERMIT TIME AND THE PLANS TO GET APPROVED AND THE ENGINEERS AND ALL THAT.

MY WORK SIX MONTHS.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

THIS IS JUST SO THAT WE CAN DELIBERATE AFTER DEFINITELY A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.

NOT SELLING.

I'M NOT FOR THAT MAYBE TWO YEARS.

THREE YEARS, BUT DEFINITELY NOT INDEFINITE, BECAUSE THAT'S IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND WHILE WE DO WANT TO DO OUR BEST WE CAN ALSO NOT JUST NOT ALLOW YOU TO SELL, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A FAMILY ISSUE OR SOME TRUST ISSUE. A TRUST AS IN LIVING WILL TRUST.

YES. DEFINITELY A TIME CERTAIN OF UP TO SIX MONTHS.

FAILURE TO DO ANY OF THE WORK OR LESS THAN WHAT WAS REQUIRED.

WE PUT ALL THE LANES BACK, NOT JUST 584, BUT ALL $3 MILLION OF IT.

THE SIX UNITS THAT ARE EMPTY TO BE RENOVATED BECAUSE WE ALSO THE OUTSIDE CAN BE GLORIOUS.

BUT IF YOU'RE DYING FROM THE INSIDE.

YES. YOU'RE NO GOOD.

DEFINITELY NO. WAWA.

AND. THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR ME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS.

OKAY. SO COMMISSIONER.

BOLTON. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE YOUR TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU. ONE OTHER QUICK, QUICK COMMENT.

SO WE WOULD NEVER TELL YOU NOT TO SELL ITS BUSINESS.

OF COURSE. BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE COMMISSIONER HAS A PREROGATIVE TO PUT A NUMBER TO TO THAT MAYBE ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMISSION BELIEVES, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED YOUR.

I'M SO AGAIN THIS IS A BUSINESS.

SO YOU YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO TO DO THE TO THE IMPROVEMENTS.

YES, YES. OKAY.

THE GROUP HAS THE MONEY TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT EVERYTHING IS WITH A LIMIT.

SO I WOULD LOVE THE MORE I'M ABLE TO MAKE THE SETTLEMENT, THE MORE EASY IT IS TO GET THE MONEY.

BUT IF THE MONEY IS THERE.

OKAY. AND AND ON THAT WORD ABOUT AS FAR AS NOT SELLING, WE'RE OKAY TO SAY YOU CAN'T SELL UNTIL IT'S COMPLETE TO YOUR LIKING, RIGHT? I'M SURE MISS CALLOWAY AND THE ATTORNEY WILL WILL WORK ON THE LANGUAGE BASED ON THE DIRECTION TODAY, BUT.

THE. WHAT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO TO TO SEE IS THE COST OF YOUR REPAIRS THEN PASSED ON TO THE TENANTS.

BECAUSE AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I KNOW HOW STRESSFUL IT IS.

IF A LANDLORD WOULD, WOULD COME AND SAY, HEY, I'VE DONE THESE ALL THESE REPAIRS.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S NICE.

DA DA DA DA. NOW I'M DOUBLING YOUR RENT, YOU KNOW.

AND AND SO I DON'T WANT SOME NATIONAL BUSINESS COMING TO TAKE OUT THE MOM AND POPS, SO, I DON'T KNOW, ATTORNEY IF IF IF THAT'S GETTING INTO THEIR BUSINESS DEALINGS.

OR WE CAN MAKE IT ALSO A CONDITION PRECEDENT THAT THEY CANNOT PASS THE COST ON TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS CURRENTLY THERE.

OR MAYBE AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, NO MORE THAN 5% OR WHATEVER.

CITY ATTORNEY, CAN I MAKE? CAN I MAKE A DECISION, A SUGGESTION IN ALL NETS, THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED CAPITAL GAIN.

CAPITAL GAIN IS WHEN YOU DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

I'M GOING ALL OUT OVER HERE AND I'M SAYING I IF YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THAT FOR A CAPITAL GAIN LIKE THIS, IT CAN BE PASSED ON. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF TENANTS WHEN THEY WHEN ALL NATIONAL TENANTS SIGN A LEASE, THEY, THEY SAY WE'LL PAY CAMP BUT NOT FOR CAPITAL GAIN. AND CAPITAL GAIN IS WHEN YOU DO AN ENTIRE SHOPPING CENTER BECAUSE IT CHANGES THE CENTER ON ITS OWN.

SO AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I KNOW EXACTLY THAT LANDLORDS FIND ALL SORTS OF WAYS TO TO TRY TO RECOUP.

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YEAH, BUT THAT IS NOT OUR INTENTIONS.

OKAY. SO ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY.

GO AHEAD PLEASE. AS RELATING TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER BOLTON OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO INTERFERE WITH HIS BUSINESS MODEL IN TERMS OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE LANDLORD AND TENANT.

OBVIOUSLY, IF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WANT TO PROFFER AND WORK WITH THE TENANTS AND VOLUNTARY AGREED, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY OBJECT TO ANY OF HIS VOLUNTARY AGREEMENT.

OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

AND AND THEN AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO AGREE TO ANYTHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO AGREE TO.

IT'S NOT OUR BUSINESS.

BUT TO PROTECT RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AT.

APPRECIATE IF YOU DO THAT.

AND JUST TO ADD A MAINTENANCE PLAN AS WELL TO THE AGREEMENT.

THANK YOU. NO.

OKAY. COST OF MAINTENANCE.

USUALLY GETS PASSED THROUGH.

PEOPLE HAVE LEASES.

IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.

IF YOU EVER IF THE PROPERTY IS INCREASED AND BEAUTIFIED, THEN IT IS LIKELY MORE BUSINESS WILL COME AND PEOPLE WILL BE MORE SUCCESSFUL.

YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE 2018.

THAT'S SIX YEARS.

WHAT WE. WE CLOSED IT IN 2018.

WE JUST DIDN'T CLOSE THE LIENS 2018 ACCORDING TO OUR INFORMATION.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A SETTLEMENT SINCE FOR SIX YEARS, SIX YEARS.

AND THE TOTAL NUMBER IS ACTUALLY 585 7400.

I WILL TELL YOU, I WAS OFFENDED AS PART OF THE CITY, IF WE HAVE A SHOPPING PLAZA THAT HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN THE MAINTENANCE OF TLC, THE LOVE AND TENDERNESS THAT IT HAS DESERVED.

FOR AT LEAST SIX YEARS.

AND THEN IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE SINCE 22,002.

SOME OF US HAVE LIVED HERE THAT LONG AND EVEN LONGER.

I UNDERSTAND TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU 1000 $100,000.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, BUT TO COME HERE TO US.

WE MAKE OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TO PULL PERMITS.

WE MAKE OUR PERMITS ARE FOR SAFETY.

THEY'RE NOT. BECAUSE WE WANT TO JUST MAKE YOU PULL OUT A PIECE OF PAPER.

SO IF PEOPLE IN YOUR PLAZA ARE NOT DOING RIGHT, YOUR TENANTS ARE NOT DOING RIGHT.

AS THE PARENT, IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.

SO I HAVE NO HEART.

AND THIS IS BUSINESS, NOT PERSONAL.

I HAVE NO HEART FOR THAT.

THE PLAZA HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED.

IT HAS BEEN AN EYESORE TO THE CITY.

YOU'RE NOT MAINTAINING TENANTS THERE BECAUSE OF NOT MAINTAINING YOUR PLAZA FOR WHATEVER MANY REASONS THERE ARE.

RIGHT. THE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP WILL COME BACK WHEN YOU CLEAN IT UP.

YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR FACADE PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD ALL THESE LIENS, SIX YEARS OF THIS.

WE COULD HAVE BEEN DOING THIS, BUT INSTEAD TO JUST SAY FIVE, 50,000, 100,000 DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.

ESPECIALLY WHEN I'VE HAD A RESIDENT WHO'S COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAME THING THAT THEY'VE HAD AND WE'VE MADE THEM DO THEIR 15%, YOUR PLAZA OWNER, YOUR BUSINESS.

YOU'RE SUBJECTED TO THE SAME RULES AND REGULATIONS.

OKAY. I QUESTION THE OVERSIGHT FROM YOUR COMPANY.

AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND THE CONCERN WE'VE BEEN PROMISED.

THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DONE. IT HASN'T BEEN DONE.

A PIECE OF PAPER IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I THOUGHT WHEN I WENT THROUGH THIS THAT YOU WERE ALREADY IN FORECLOSURE AND THAT YOU HAD AGREED TO A SETTLEMENT.

THAT'S NOT CORRECT. RIGHT.

MISS CALLOWAY? NO, NO, WE'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO DO A SETTLEMENT SINCE 2018, CORRECT? YES. THE LETTER THAT'S IN YOUR PACKAGE SHOWS THE FIRST SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT OFFER IN 2019.

ANYTHING THAT YOU DO TO IMPROVE THAT SHOP IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE PLAZA, THE COMMUNITY, YOUR BUSINESS, THE OWNERS.

I'M NOT FOR REDUCTION.

I AM WILLING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CREATIVE IDEAS WE CAN.

$100,000 NOW.

FINE. 485,744.

AND ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT HASN'T ACCRUED IN SIX YEARS, THAT'S THE SAME NUMBER FROM 2018.

SO FINE, KEEPING THAT 485,000 744,000 STAYS ON THE BOOKS GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVAMP THIS PLAZA IN THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU BELIEVE WILL BE A GREAT.

CREDIT TO THE COMMUNITY, YOUR BUSINESS.

AND THEN IF BY CHANCE, THREE YEARS AFTER PRODUCTIVITY, WE SEE IT, WE CAN EITHER DECREASE IT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT THEN OR WE COULD DO YOU'RE DOING SUCCESSFULLY AFTER YOU'VE HAD EVERYBODY IN FOR A YEAR, YOU PAY US ANOTHER 100,000.

YEAR LATER, YOU PAY THE NEXT 100,000, THEN THE CITY COMMISSION CAN DETERMINE, BECAUSE THAT TAKES CARE OF THE 300, PART OF THE HARD COST LIENS AND STUFF.

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AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE REMAINING 200,000 GETS REDUCED OR 100,000 GETS REDUCED.

THERE'S WAYS TO DO THIS.

I AM NOT AGAINST A CREATIVE WAY TO DO THIS, BUT I AM AGAINST COMING TO THE TABLE WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND ASKING EVERYTHING FROM US THAT DOESN'T SHOW ANY KIND OF. IN INVESTMENT INTO OUR CITY AND YOU WANT TO BE INVESTED IN OUR CITY, INVEST IN OUR CITY WILL HELP YOU OUT THAT WAY.

AND DEFINITELY NOT REMOVING ANY INSPECTIONS.

ALL OF OUR INSPECTIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED AS FAR AS YOUR LEASES ARE CONCERNED.

I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AS WELL.

I'VE SIGNED MANY LEASES, AND AS AN ATTORNEY WHO WRITES LEASES, I'VE WRITTEN SEVERAL FOR PLAZAS.

YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO IN ON A YEARLY BASIS, DEPENDING ON HOW IT WAS WRITTEN.

INSPECT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING MAINTAINED.

IF YOU'RE FAILING TO MAINTAIN YOUR PROPERTY AS A PROPERTY MANAGER AND SO YOUR OTHER UNITS ARE NOT DOING WELL, THAT'S ON YOU.

YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO UPLIFT OUR CITY, AND THAT IS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND IT IS ENFORCEMENT OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OUR LIENS, NOT REDUCTION AND WAIVING EVERYTHING.

WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT REINSTITUTING OUR FACADE PROGRAM.

IT LAPSED.

YOU DON'T QUALIFY FOR NOW.

MAYBE AS YOU SHOW US THE IMPROVEMENTS AND YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN AND THE PLAZA, THE FACADE PROGRAM COMES BACK TO US.

I HAVE MY NEXT TWO.

THEN YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO APPLY THEN, BUT.

PUT THE COMMITMENT INTO IT.

AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

IF YOU GO TO SELL THE PLAZA, THERE'S A CALL.

THERE'S SOME KIND OF CALL, EITHER THE REST OF IT OR ALL OF IT IN THE TEN YEAR, WHATEVER IT IS WITH ONE OF THE NONPROFITS I WORK WITH, WHEN THEY HAVE A ZERO INTEREST LOAN ON THEIR PROPERTY, IT'S AN EQUITY SPLIT WITHIN A CERTAIN SLIDING SCALE FROM 2010.

WHATEVER IT IS, WE'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE A GOOD DEAL FOR YOU, FOR THE CITY.

SO YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT ON THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S CONSENSUS ON THAT CITY.

MISS CALLOWAY. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE WE GO NEXT.

THERE IS.

DO WE VOTE THIS DOWN? THE REQUEST? HOW DO WE DO THIS NOW? DO WE ASK FOR A MOTION TO TABLE TO A TIME CERTAIN WHERE YOU CAN COME BACK WITH A BETTER NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT? WHAT IN PROCEDURE DO WE NEED TO DO? SO WE'RE NOT NEGOTIATING AT THIS TIME.

THE APPLICANT IS OFFERED $100,000 IN STAFF MEMORANDUM.

WE BELIEVE 586,007 28 IS WHAT IS MOST APPROPRIATE.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO SHARED WITH YOU THEIR INTENTIONS RELATIVE TO IMPROVING THE PLAZA.

SO THIS COMMISSION CAN DECIDE WHETHER THAT IS SUFFICIENT, WHETHER YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THE $100,000 AND GO INTO A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO ACCEPT SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THE $100,000 SUBJECT TO THAT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO AS WELL, SO WE COULD NARROWING IT DOWN, VOTE ON THE ITEM ON HERE, WHICH IS TO AUTHORIZE OR NOT.

SO NO VOTE WOULD BE NO TO WHAT IS BEING THE RESOLUTION BEFORE US.

AND THEN YOU GUYS GO BACK TO THE TABLE WITHOUT TIME CONSTRAINTS AND RESTRICTIONS BY US, AND COME BACK WITH A BETTER.

PLAN. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT PART.

YOU'VE HEARD THE. CAN WE GET SOME DIRECTION? IS THE 100,000 NOT WHAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT.

WELL, IF WE DO A VOTE ON THIS AND SAY NO, THEN IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THAT'S A NO, RIGHT? OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO? IF IT'S NOT 589 586 728 WHICH IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY. SO THE RESOLUTION HERE IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DO THE 586.

OKAY. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT IS BEFORE US TO VOTE.

I'M JUST SUGGESTING WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACK.

IF THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH SOME OF THE TERMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN THE 100,000. WE CAN DO THAT THIS MORNING, WHICH IS WHY IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO COMPLICATED.

RIGHT NOW. YOU'VE GOT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN.

RIGHT. INSTEAD OF DOING THE NEGOTIATIONS AT THIS TABLE.

OKAY. YOU HEAR THAT? THE COMMISSION WISHES TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING, THEN I WOULD SAY MOTION TO TABLE.

PLEASE GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE AND BRING BACK A SETTLEMENT.

THAT IS MY MOTION.

NO DISCUSSION. ANYTHING FURTHER, MADAM MAYOR? THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE ON THE TABLE, AND I'M LOOKING FOR A SECOND.

SECOND. I'VE GOT A MOTION TO TABLE TO A TIME CERTAIN FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION BY STAFF AND APPLICANT, BASED ON COMMENTS OF THE CITY COMMISSION. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?

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NO. THAT'S WHY THE MOTION TO TABLE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR DISCUSSION.

YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CITY ATTORNEY ALL YOU WANT.

CITY ATTORNEY, CONFIRM, PLEASE.

MAYOR THERE'S A MOTION SECOND.

AND THE MOTION TO TABLE, YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSION THERE.

NO. OKAY.

REALLY? CITY ATTORNEY MOTION TO TABLES DO NOT HAVE DISCUSSION.

THIS IS THE MOTION TO TABLE.

DO NOT HAVE DISCUSSION.

I HAVE THE RULES. AND IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THAT MOTION TO TABLE.

SECOND REQUIRED.

DEBATABLE. NO.

AMENDABLE. YES. VOTE REQUIRED.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

COMMISSIONER. VILLALOBOS.

YES. VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT. YES.

COMMISSIONER. BOLTON.

NO. MAYOR.

GOMEZ. YES.

COMMISSIONER. DANIEL.

YES. MOTION TO TABLE PASSES 3 TO 2.

THANK YOU. THE ITEM HAS BEEN TABLED.

THERE WILL BE FURTHER DISCUSSION IF WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO A WORKSHOP FOR FURTHER INPUT.

AFTER YOU HAVE COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION BASED ON ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE MADE, WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IT IS 1115.

WE ARE TAKING A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

WE'LL SEE YOU ALL HERE AT 1130.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE IN RECESS.

IT IS 1130 AND WE ARE BACK IN ACTION.

AND I AM GOING TO ASK THE CITY CLERK TO DO WHAT SHE NEEDS TO DO.

SURE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

SO PRIOR TO THE BREAK, THE VOTE ON THE MOTION TO TABLE, I DID STATE THAT IT WAS 3 TO 2.

ACTUALLY, IT WAS 4 TO 1 WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON DESCENDING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CLARIFYING THE RECORD.

AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING.

[7.a TO2550 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida; amending Chapter 2, "Administration", Article 1 "In General", of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances by amending Section 2-3, "City Holidays" to include Patriot Day as a City-paid employee holiday; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]

7A202550 ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING.

CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

ORDINANCE SEVEN A AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION, CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA.

AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION ARTICLE ONE IN GENERAL OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

CODE OF ORDINANCE, SECTION 2-3 CITY HOLIDAYS TO INCLUDE PATRIOT DAY AS A CITY PAID EMPLOYEE HOLIDAY.

PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION.

PROVIDING CONFLICT. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I NEED A MOTION. AND A SECOND.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

I HEARD COMMISSIONER DANIEL MIKE WAS NOT ON.

SO COMMISSIONER DANIEL IS THE MOTION.

VICE MAYOR WRIGHT IS A SECOND.

I'M NOW OPENING THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I HAVE KATE JOHNSON, WHO SIGNED UP.

ALL KINDS OF STUFF ON HERE.

KATE JOHNSON, MAINLAND'S FOR REGARDING PATRIOTS DAY.

I REMEMBER THAT DAY WELL MOST OF US DO.

SEPTEMBER 11TH.

MY SON WAS ATTENDING COLLEGE IN NEW YORK CITY AT THE TIME, JUST BLOCKS AWAY, AND I COULD NOT GET AHOLD OF HIM FOR DAYS.

AS THE PHONE LINES WERE DOWN, I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF HIM AND HE WAS SAFE, BUT HE REGALED STORIES OF WHAT HAD TRANSPIRED AND HELPING PEOPLE RUNNING FROM THE RUBBLE INTO HIS DORM BUILDING.

IT WAS TRAUMATIC.

MANY YOUNGER PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHAT HAPPENED OR THE TRAGEDY TO OUR COUNTRY THAT DAY.

WE HAVE A MONUMENT ON THE WALLS OF THIS BUILDING FOR A REASON WE SAID WE WOULD NEVER FORGET, AND WE WON'T, BUT SOME MIGHT.

ONE WAY TO HONOR THIS TRAGEDY IS THROUGH PATRIOTS DAY.

IT NOT ONLY HONORS THOSE WHO WERE THERE, LOST LOVED ONES, OR HAD LOVED ONES AFFECTED.

IT ALSO KEEPS THE SIGNIFICANCE ALIVE FOR THOSE YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO MAY COME TO WORK FOR THIS CITY, AS WELL AS FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE.

WE HAVE HOLIDAYS FOR SO MANY THINGS.

TAMARAC SHOULD LEAD THE NATION ON THIS IMPORTANT RECOGNITION AND MAKE PATRIOTS DAY A CITY HOLIDAY.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO VOTE YES FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LORENZO CALHOUN, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES.

SORRY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? NO ONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED, AND LORENZO CALHOUN, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BY THIS COMMISSION? SEEING NO DISCUSSION.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR. RIGHT. YES, COMMISSIONER.

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LITTLETON. YES, COMMISSIONER.

DANIEL. YES, COMMISSIONER.

VILLALOBOS. YES, MAYOR.

GOMEZ. YES. THANK YOU.

MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW GOING TO BE GOING TO WHAT IS NUMBERED

[6.a TO2551 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida amending Chapter 10, Article 3, Section 10-3.2, entitled “Table of Allowed Uses”, of the City of Tamarac Land Development Code, specifically Table 10-3.1: allowed uses, establishing “Religious Assembly” use in the (BP) Business Park zoning district; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]

6A202551 BEING READ AS AN ORDINANCE.

BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND IT IS IN PUBLIC HEARING.

SO OUR ATTORNEY SIX A IS AN ORDINANCE OF CITY COMMISSIONER CITY OF TAMARAC AMENDING CHAPTER TEN, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION TEN DASH 3.2, ENTITLED TABLE OF LAW USES OF THE CITY TAMARAC LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SPECIFICALLY TABLE TEN DASH 3.1 ALLOW YOU ESTABLISHING RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE AND THE B P OR BUSINESS PARK ZONING DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION.

PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU.

I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MARLON BOLTON.

I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

NOW GOING TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SORRY DID I? IT'S COMMISSIONER BOLTON COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL.

I'M LOOKING AT MY HANDWRITING.

AND SOME OF THE CHANGES ON MY STUFF.

TAKE IT PERSONALLY IF YOU WISH.

IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE.

WE'RE NOW OPENING PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I'M GOING TO GO BY THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP, AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME.

KATE JOHNSON. YOU YOU ARE ON THIS, OKAY? KATE JOHNSON AND THEN GERALD ROBINSON.

IS. YEAH.

THIS IS FOR THE CHURCH. IS GERALD ROBINSON STILL HERE? OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY.

YOU'LL BE GOING NEXT.

THANK YOU. AGAIN, KATE JOHNSON HOLY UNITED BELIEVERS CHURCH OR THE HUB IS ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FOR THEIR PROPERTY AT 6691 NOB HILL ROAD TO CARVE OUT THAT PROPERTY FOR RELIGIOUS USE.

I HAVE READ ALL THE BACKUP MATERIALS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF CITY STAFF AND THE PLANNING BOARD.

EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND. I'M SORRY.

THIS IS ON ME. I'M BEING TOLD THAT WE'RE.

OKAY. OKAY, SO BUT LEGALLY WE'RE IN THE PROPER FORM AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROCEED.

CITY ATTORNEY.

WE'RE HAVING INTERNET ISSUES.

WE'RE HAVING TECHNOLOGY ISSUES.

AND I'M BEING TOLD THAT PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR, BUT.

ARE YOU CORRECT, MAYOR? WE'RE WE ARE STILL ABLE TO PERFORM OUR FUNCTION.

AND SO FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS NOT ABLE TO HEAR ME SAY THIS, OUR APOLOGIES, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PLEASE PROCEED.

THANK YOU. AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME? SORRY, I DON'T TAKE MY TIME.

WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME WAS I ENDED UP GOING BACK AND WATCHING THE VIDEO OF IT WHEN WE HAD INTERNET ISSUES AND THE VIDEO WAS FINE.

SO FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE CAN'T HEAR, THEY CAN WATCH VIDEO LATER ON.

OKAY. OKAY, SO I READ ALL THE BACKUP MATERIALS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STAFF AND PLANNING BOARD, AS WELL AS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH NATASHA WALDO ABOUT THEIR CHURCH, WHAT MINISTRIES AND OUTREACHES THEY HAVE DONE, AND WHY THEY FELT THAT THIS PROPERTY MET THEIR NEEDS. I ALSO QUESTIONED WHY THEY BOUGHT IN THE COMMERCE PARK, KNOWING IT WAS NOT ZONED FOR THAT.

SHE HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO EACH AND EVERY QUESTION I HAVE HAD, AND FOR THAT I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY.

MY HUSBAND AND I DROVE TO THE PROPERTY AND I COMMENTED THAT IT IS NEAR COMMUNITY CHRISTIAN, WHICH IS ALSO IN COMMERCE PARK.

MY ASSUMPTION WAS THAT SEEING THAT THE CITY GAVE AN EXEMPTION FOR THE LARGER CHURCH, THE HUB WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY COULD GET ONE AS WELL.

IT'S A MUCH SMALLER PROPERTY AND MUCH LESS OF A TAX BURDEN, A PROPERTY VALUED AT 4 MILLION FOR THE HUB COMPARED TO 25 MILLION FOR CC, ACCORDING TO THE TAX APPRAISER'S RECORDS.

MRS WALDO CONFIRMED THAT THIS WAS INDEED THEIR REASONING.

WHILE I DO NOT KNOW WHY THE CITY DECIDED TO CARVE OUT A LARGER PROPERTY FROM THE TAX ROLLS, I DO THINK IT PLAYS A PART IN THE CURRENT DECISION.

I ALSO KNOW THAT PLACES OF WORSHIP CAN BRING VALUABLE RESOURCES TO CITY IN OTHER WAYS.

FROM A SOCIOLOGICAL AND ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, THE HUB HAS PARTNERED WITH CHALLENGER ELEMENTARY AND MILLENNIUM COLLEGIATE ACADEMY, PROVIDING SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR STUDENTS IN NEED.

THEY HAVE DONATED NONPERISHABLE FOOD ITEMS, PERSONAL CARE ITEMS TO SHELTERS AND ORGANIZATIONS, SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY WANT TO CONSIDER EXPANDING

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FOR THE CURRENT TAMARAC OUTREACH PROGRAMS, INCLUDING OUR PANTRIES, THE PET PANTRY, VETERANS AND HOMELESS PROGRAMS. THEY HAVE LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS WHO PROVIDE COUNSELING SERVICES AND EDUCATION ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, AND THIS CAN BENEFIT THE WIDER COMMUNITY AS WELL, ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE OFFICES AT THE CHURCH BUILDING ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A WIDE ARRAY OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS PROVIDE EDUCATION ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF HEALTHY, HEALTHY LIVING.

AGAIN, THIS COULD BE A DISCUSSION THAT HAS HAD TO EXPAND THESE PROGRAMS AND PARTNERSHIPS TO ASSIST MORE TAMARAC RESIDENTS THAN JUST CHURCH ATTENDERS. I THINK THAT CONSIDERATION OF ALL FACTORS IS NEEDED, INCLUDING THE TAX REVENUE LOSS, BUT PRIOR PRIOR PRECEDENT THAT WAS SET, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND BENEFITS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE THE WIDER COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

SO A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS NEEDED FOR AN INFORMED DECISION TO BE MADE, NOT JUST CONSIDERING TAXES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WHILE GERALD ROBINSON COMES FORWARD.

ALONZO STEDMAN, YOU'RE ON DECK.

YOU'RE ON DECK. IT'S STILL MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

MAYOR. VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

I AM PASTOR GERALD ROBINSON OF THE NEW BEGINNINGS.

CHURCH OF GOD, SEVENTH DAY.

LOCATED IN OAKLAND PARK, FLORIDA.

BUT I AM A FIVE YEAR RESIDENT OF PLUM BAY IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

AND I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS AT THE HUB INTERNATIONAL.

AS IT CONCERNS REZONING AND USAGE OF FACILITIES.

THE PRESENCE OF CHURCHES IN THE COMMUNITY BRINGS DIRECT ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE LOCAL AREA.

CHURCH ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE JOBS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND CHURCHES.

SUPPORT A VARIETY OF LOCAL BUSINESSES.

CHURCHES BRING INDIVIDUALS FROM SURROUNDING AREAS TO COMMUNITIES WHERE THE CHURCH IS LOCATED, AND THESE INDIVIDUALS PROVIDE ECONOMIC SUPPORT AND LOCAL ESTABLISHMENTS. THUS, CHURCHES AID IN BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE INTO COMMUNITIES.

CHURCHES ARE ALSO AN ATTRACTIVE COMPONENT TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

MUCH LIKE STRONG SCHOOL SYSTEMS, MANY FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS CONSIDER THE PRESENCE OF LOCAL RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS WHEN MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT MOVING INTO COMMUNITIES AND PURCHASING PROPERTY.

THE PRESENCE OF CHURCHES, AIDS, AND FAMILIES CHOOSING TO ESTABLISH RESIDENCE IN A LOCAL AREA.

THIS IN TURN HELPS SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES AND CONTRIBUTES TO PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS.

THEREFORE, CHURCHES AGAIN PROVIDE DIRECT ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY, AND CHURCHES ALSO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY GROWTH, JOB CREATION AND OVERALL ECONOMIC VITALITY.

NOW, IF I CAN PIGGYBACK JUST A FEW THINGS THAT THE HUB HAS BEEN DOING AND WILL BE PROVIDING IN THE COMMUNITY ARE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING PROGRAMS FOR YOUTH AND FAMILIES, HEALTH AND WELLNESS MINISTRIES, PROVIDING EDUCATION ON DEVELOPING HEALTHY HABITS, DISEASE MANAGEMENT AND PREVENTION, SCREENINGS AND HEALTH LITERACY, PARTNERING WITH LOCAL FOOD BANKS HERE IN TAMARAC AND DISTRIBUTING OF HEALTHY FOOD AND OTHER GOODS, AND AN AFTER SCHOOL TUTORING AND COMPUTER LITERACY PROGRAM THAT WILL BE COMING SOON.

AND NOT ONLY THAT THE PASTOR AND FIRST LADY OF THE HUB ARE VERY YOUNG PEOPLE.

AND THAT ALSO IS A GOOD LOOK FOR THE COMMUNITY AND BRINGING IN YOUNGER SOULS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU LADIES.

THANK YOU. AND SAME HERE ON THE COMMISSION.

WE DON'T MAKE THE VERBAL COMMENTS EITHER.

PLEASE. THANK YOU.

SO WHILE ALONZO STEDMAN IS COMING UP, WE HAVE AUDREY STEDMAN.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS ALONZO STEADMAN.

I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMARAC AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE HUB INTERNATIONAL AS WELL.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE MANY BENEFITS THAT THE HUB INTERNATIONAL HAS NOT ONLY GIVEN TO ME AS A MEMBER FOR AT LEAST OVER FIVE YEARS, BUT ALSO TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

WITH SUCH A POWERFUL MINISTRY AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY, AS MY BROTHER SAID BEFORE, PROVIDE ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP MANY OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE.

AS IT HAS HELPED ME.

IT CAN NOT ONLY PROVIDE JOBS, IT CAN PROVIDE STABILITY.

THEY CAN PROVIDE MUCH MORE IN TERMS OF, AS WAS SAID BEFORE, PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP.

AS WE HAVE MANY EXPERTS WITHIN THAT FIELD, WE HAVE MANY EXPERTS WITHIN THE MEDICAL FIELD AND MYSELF INCLUDED.

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I AM ACTUALLY WITHIN THE MEDIA FIELD, SO TECHNOLOGICAL, AS MY BROTHER SAID BEFORE.

SO THERE'S MANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME WITH US.

HAVING THIS AREA AND HAVING THIS LOCATION AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO NOT ONLY BE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR HELP IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO LET OURSELVES WORK WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY WITHIN ITSELF.

I DON'T WISH TO BELABOR ON THIS ANY MUCH LONGER, BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE ALL VERY BUSY AND WE ALL HAVE A LOT TO DO, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE LESS BUREAUCRATIC AND GIVE YOU A MORE HEARTFELT STATEMENT TO GO ALONG WITH IT.

AS A YOUNG PERSON REPRESENTING MANY OF THE YOUTH WITHIN THE HUB INTERNATIONAL, I CAN WITHOUT A DOUBT WHOLEHEARTEDLY SAY THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE.

MANY OF US HAVE RECEIVED BLESSINGS, HELP AND STABILITY AND COMFORT WITHIN THOSE WALLS, AND WE CAN ONLY IMPLORE TO YOU THAT IT IS NOTHING LESS THAN A BENEFIT NOT ONLY TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF TAMARAC, BUT TO FORT LAUDERDALE AS A WHOLE, TO FLORIDA AS A WHOLE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

AUDREY STEADMAN IS COMING UP.

AND WE HAVE PAUL DEAN.

IT'S COMING NEXT. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

TO OUR ESTEEMED CITY MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

I STAND HERE TODAY TO PRESENT MY CASE FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING REQUEST FOR THE HUB INTERNATIONAL CHURCH.

AS A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH AND RESIDENT OF TAMARAC, MY NAME IS AUDREY STEDMAN.

AND I BELIEVE THAT HAVING A DEDICATED SPACE FOR WORSHIP AND SPIRITUAL GROWTH IS VITAL FOR THE WELL-BEING AND HARMONY OF OUR CITY.

SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON, AND SOME THAT WE ARE PLANNING ON WORKING ON BACK TO SCHOOL DRIVE THAT WE HAVE COLLABORATED WITH CHALLENGER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MILLENNIUM, WORKING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AND ON RESUME WRITING, MOCK INTERVIEWS, HOW TO DRESS FOR SUCCESS, WEEKLY YOUTH FELLOWSHIP SLASH OUTINGS, PARTNERING WITH LOCAL RESTAURANTS TO FEED THOSE AFFECTED BY DISASTER.

WE'RE ALSO HAVING OUR FOOD DISTRIBUTION PANTRY THAT WAS VERY EVIDENT DURING COVID WHEN THE COVID PANDEMIC HIT.

WE ALSO HAVE RESOLUTE AND QUALIFIED COUNSELORS THAT ARE ABLE TO COUNSEL OUR YOUNG PEOPLE OR COMMUNITY AT LARGE ON DRUG ADDICTION, GRIEF, MENTAL HEALTH AND MARITAL COUNSELING.

AND ALSO WE DO SOCIAL ACTIVITIES.

ONE THING I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT IN IN AN AGE OF DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY, WE HAVE MANY COMPUTERS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WAITING FOR OUR CHURCH BUILDING TO BE OPENED WHERE WE CAN HELP OUT OLDER ADULTS.

AND THIS GOAL IS TO OFFER ONE ON ONE TRAINING USING DIGITAL TOOLS SUCH AS SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEO CONFERENCING PLATFORMS. CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT HAVE A PLACE TO WORSHIP AND SO THE IMPACT TO QUANTIFY THE IMPACT, ESPECIALLY ON OUR YOUNG ADULTS, HAS BEEN IT HAS IMPACTED ABOUT 70 YOUNG PEOPLE AT THIS TIME AND EVEN OUR CHILDREN.

AND SO IN CLOSING, THE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING REQUEST FOR THE HUB INTERNATIONAL CHURCH IS NOT ONLY BENEFICIAL TO OUR CONGREGATION, BUT TO THE OVERALL WELL-BEING OF OUR CITY.

WE ARE DEDICATED TO MAKING A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES.

TOGETHER, WE CAN CREATE A STRONGER, MORE VIBRANT COMMUNITY THAT THRIVES ON FAITH, COMPASSION, AND UNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PAUL DEAN IS COMING UP AND I HAVE VIOLA WATSON.

ON DEC. GOOD MORNING.

I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING AN ASSOCIATE WORKER INFLUENCER WITH THE HUB.

I'M NOT A DIRECT MEMBER, BUT WE ARE.

I'M IN DIRECTLY WITH THE PASTOR AND UNDERSTAND HIS HEART AND VISION.

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ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE TO SAY THAT THE.

YOUR NAME PLEASE. I'M SORRY.

PAUL DEAN.

I'M ACTUALLY FROM PORT SAINT LUCIE, BUT I'M WORKING HERE AND ACTUALLY ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS ON THE HUB.

UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HUB IS NOT JUST A NORMAL CHURCH.

IT IS JUST LIKE THE NAME IMPLIES, A HUB.

IT'S A CENTER FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T SEE THAT THE THE HUB AS A PLACE JUST TO WHERE YOU JUST MEET GOD AND UNDERSTAND RELIGIOUS VALUES AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO WORSHIP HIM. IT'S A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE'S FAMILIES GET IMPACTED, LIVES GET IMPACTED, AND THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO THE MEMBERS OF THE HUB.

THE MEMBERS OF THE HUB HAVE DONE SO MANY THINGS FOR THE YOUTH IN IN FACT OF IN, IN, IN THE AREA OF, OF COURSE, HAVING AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS THEY HAVE DONE. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE THE YOUTH SUMMER CAMP PROGRAMS, ALL OF THIS WHILE NOT HAVING A HOME.

THIS WILL BE A PLACE FOR OUR YOUTH AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY GET THE KIND OF TRAINING THEY NEED TO KEEP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT FAMILIES ARE ABOUT.

WE'RE TEACHING THEM WHAT VALUES ARE ABOUT.

INSTEAD OF TEACHING SOME OF THE THINGS YOU LEARN IN UPPER UPPER MANAGEMENT CLASSES, IN THE UPPER TIER LEVELS OF COLLEGE, WE'RE TEACHING THEM LIFE CONFLICT RESOLUTION, BUSINESS PRINCIPLES, ORGANIZATION PRINCIPLES, GROUP PRINCIPLES.

WHY AT THE EARLY AGE? BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE LEADERS IN HIGH SCHOOLS AND OVERCOMERS IN COLLEGE.

WE ARE DETERMINED TO GET TO THE FIRST GENERATION FIRST, THE NEXT GENERATION FIRST.

AND AS A PART OF THAT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN COME, WHERE ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY CAN BRING THEIR CHILDREN.

SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT THE VALUE AND SAY OVER THE LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY, THEY'RE THEY'RE SAYING YOU'RE LOSING $70,000 WORTH OF INCOME.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE THE INCOME OF ONE EMPLOYEE.

BUT FOR THAT YOU GET SOMEBODY, YOU GET A TEAM OF PEOPLE, 50 PEOPLE, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTED TO JUST GIVING THEIR TIME.

ONE EMPLOYEE VERSUS 3 OR 4 DOCTORS THAT CAN DO MONTHLY SCREENINGS EVERY THREE MONTHS.

ONE COMMUNITY EXCEPT AS OPPOSED TO A COMMUNITY OF WORKERS THAT ARE HELPING PEOPLE IN HURRICANE SITUATIONS TO MAKE SURE ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE ELDERLY, GET CARED FOR AND GET THEIR GET THEIR SHUTTERS PUT ON.

IT'S THE KIND OF COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WHICH MAKES THEM THE NAME OF THE HUB A CENTRAL PLACE THAT CAN BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT IS OUR PURPOSE TO GLORIFY OUR GOD AND BLESS OUR PEOPLE.

GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU.

AS VIOLA WATSON IS COMING DOWN, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK THAT DID NOT SIGN UP? OKAY. PATTY LYNN WILL GO NEXT.

JILL, YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.

YOU'LL GO NEXT, AND THEN PATTY. VIOLA.

YOUR ANZAC. BELOW IS NEXT.

AND THEN PATTY LYNN WILL GO AFTER YOU.

OKAY. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

I SAY GOOD MORNING TO THE COMMISSIONERS, THE MAYOR, THE CITY CITY MANAGER.

MY NAME IS VIOLA WATSON.

I'M IN 4930 EAST PALM BOULEVARD.

I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A CHURCH OR COMMUNITY THAT IS REALLY FOCUSING AND HELPING AND DOING SOMETHING GOOD, OTHER THAN JUST BEING A CHURCH THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST CONGREGATE AND BENEFIT THEMSELVES.

MY CONCERN IS MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE FACTORS.

WHEN THE THE GROUP PURCHASED THIS LOCATION, THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS TO WHAT THE ZONING WAS. THEY DID NOT DISCLOSE TO THE CITY INITIALLY WHAT THEIR PLANS WAS FOR THIS.

SO THEY SEEM TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF A I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTIVE WAS, WHY THEY DID NOT BE UPFRONT WITH WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO THERE. THEY KNEW THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN IF THEY DID THEIR RESEARCH BEFORE PURCHASING, AS TO WHAT THE ZONING MIGHT BE, AND BEING ON THE PLANNING BOARD AND BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND MORE AND MORE OUR CITY AND WHERE OUR CITY WANTS TO GO AND WHAT THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WANT FOR OUR CITY, THEN I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE SHOULD BE OPENING UP SOMETHING THAT CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR US LATER.

BECAUSE IF WE WAIVE THIS ZONING, THEN ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO COME TO WAIVE THE ZONING FOR THIS AREA, WHICH IS LIMITED FOR US IN THE CITY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, FROM LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION ON BOTH SIDES, I LISTENED TO THE CITY'S PRESENTATION AND I LISTENED TO THE

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PRESENTATION OF THE CHURCH.

AND EVEN THOUGH I APPLAUD WHAT THE CHURCH IS DOING, I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT US HAVING TO CHANGE THIS ZONING AND THEN WE CANNOT. WHEN FUTURE PEOPLE COME TO HAVE THE ZONING CHANGE, WE CANNOT GO BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE CANNOT DO IT BECAUSE WE MADE AN EXEMPTION FOR THIS.

THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY THAT THEY COULD GO TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO PURCHASE OR WHATEVER, WHICH AS I SAID, I APPLAUD WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT I HAVE TO LOOK WHAT'S BEST FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY AND FOR OUR CITY.

TAMARAC NEED TO MOVE AHEAD.

OTHER CITIES ARE MOVING AHEAD AROUND, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE SAME FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW WHAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING OUR CITY TO DO, AND I HOPE THE CITY IS WORKING AHEAD TO GET THAT DONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING TO ALL THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS DON SMIKLE.

I RESIDE AT 880 SOUTHWEST 9 TO 6 LANE.

I'M A BIT NERVOUS.

I RECENTLY MOVED FROM JAMAICA TO AMERICA AND I WANTED A CHURCH HOME AS AN ORPHAN GROWING IN A CHILDREN'S HOME BACK IN JAMAICA.

I DIDN'T HAVE FAMILIES.

I CAME AND I SEARCHED, AND WHAT LED ME TO THE HUB WAS THE OUTREACH PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE FEEDING THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

I'M A STATE INVESTIGATOR AND I WORK FOR DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY, AND MY CURRENT JOB HAS TO DO WITH MENTORSHIP WITH CHILDREN, AND THERE ARE FEW YOUNG PEOPLE WITHIN THE HUB THAT WE HAVE STARTED A MENTORSHIP PROGRAM.

AND JUST LIKE MR. DAVION SILVER THIS MORNING, WHO HAS THE MENTORSHIP PROGRAM, I COMMEND HIM.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE STARTED WITHIN THE HUB.

SO I WOULD REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING TO GRANT US THE ZONING LICENSE SO WE CAN EMBARK ON THAT JOURNEY.

SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE, IT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS BLESSING.

I HAVE CHANGED, IT HAS HELPED ME GROW INTO A WOMAN WHO I AM TODAY.

AND BECAUSE OF THE LEADERS, PASTOR AND HIS WIFE AMONG THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH, I HAVE GAINED WEALTH. I HAVE GAINED SUBSTANCE BEING A YOUNG WOMAN.

SO I WOULD REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU GRANT US THE ZONING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PATTY LYNN.

AND THEN YOU WILL GO NEXT.

THANK YOU. PATTY LYNN.

MAINLAND'S EIGHT.

LISTENING TO THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY OFFER, THEY SOUND WONDERFUL.

LOTS OF CONCENTRATION ON YOUTH AND FAMILIES, WHICH IS WONDERFUL.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE IN THE WRONG PLACE.

THEY CAN GO A LOT MORE PLACES IN THE CITY THAN OTHER BUSINESSES CAN.

THEY ARE LIMITED TO OUR BUSINESS PARKS, AND WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT A CHURCH IS NOT A BUILDING.

A CHURCH IS A SPIRIT AND A PLACE, AND THEY CAN GO ANY PLACE AND STILL BE THERE.

CHURCH BUSINESSES CAN'T GO ANY PLACE AT ALL IN OUR CITY.

THEY ARE LIMITED TO WHERE WE ARE ALLOWING CERTAIN INDUSTRIES.

WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE ANY OF THAT SPACE TO SOMETHING THAT CAN BE HAPPY SOMEPLACE ELSE.

I COMMEND THE CHURCH.

I THANK EVERYBODY FOR SPEAKING OUT BECAUSE I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF TELLING HOW HOW WONDERFUL THEIR PROGRAMS ARE AND HOW MUCH IT'S MEANT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE ZONING BOARD.

THEY NEED TO BE IN ANOTHER LOCATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS TINA WILLIAMS. I DON'T CURRENTLY RESIDE IN TAMARAC, BUT I AM A MEMBER OF THE HUTCHINSON NATIONAL AND I'M QUITE ACTIVE IN OUR CHURCH AND WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

I'D LIKE TO JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO SAY.

IT MEANS A LOT, BUT ALSO I'D LIKE TO BRING POINT TO THE YOUTH, OUR FUTURE.

AND IF WE'RE ONLY THINKING ABOUT THE BUSINESSES AND THE EXPANSION, THEN WE'RE NOT REALLY THINKING ABOUT OUR YOUTHS.

AND IF OUR YOUTHS ARE OUR FUTURE, WE NEED TO INVEST IN THEM.

THE HUB FOR ME PERSONALLY HAS ALLOWED ME TO GROW INTO WHO I AM.

TODAY I GOT PREGNANT OUT OF WEDLOCK.

I BECAME HOMELESS, HAD TO MOVE BACK HOME WITH MY MOM, AND IN DOING SO, I WAS INVITED ONE TOO MANY TIMES TO COME TO THE HUB.

AND ONCE I FINALLY MADE UP MY MIND TO DO SO, I JUST BLOSSOMED INTO THE WONDERFUL YOUNG WOMAN YOU SEE HERE TODAY, THE ONE NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT.

MY SISTER DIED IN 2022 AND SHE WAS ONLY 22 YEARS OLD.

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AND THE HUB, MY PASTOR AND HIS WIFE AND ALL THE MINISTERS AND EVERYONE IN THE HUB CIRCLED AROUND MY MOM AND MYSELF.

IT'S ONLY THE TWO OF US NOW AND MY LOVELY DAUGHTER IN THE BACK.

JANELLE. JANELLE HAS SOME MENTAL DEFICITS AND THE HUB HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS BACKBONE.

THEY PRAY FOR YOU, BUT ALSO THEY TEACH YOU THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW TO MAKE YOURSELF WELL ROUNDED.

THE HUB INTERNATIONAL.

WHEN IT COMES TO YOUTH, WE DEFINITELY, MOST HONESTLY, WE WANT THEM TO FLOURISH.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE HUB INTERNATIONAL.

AT THE HUB INTERNATIONAL, WE BELIEVE THAT ONCE OUR YOUTHS ARE PREPARED FOR THE FUTURE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY CANNOT HANDLE.

MENTAL, THE, THE, THE MENTAL CAPACITY OF THE YOUNG ONES.

IN THIS DAY AND AGE, IT'S TREMENDOUSLY IMPACTED, WHETHER IT'S JUST BY BULLYING OR PEER PRESSURE OR CHILDREN ARE UNDER ATTACK, AND WE NEED TO FORTIFY THEM WITH THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THEMSELVES WELL ROUNDED IN THE FUTURE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE HUB DOES WITH THEIR WONDERFUL COUNSELORS AND THEIR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. AND AS I SAID, I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE INTERNATIONAL AND THEIR YOUTH BECAUSE I CONSIDER MYSELF A YOUTH.

RIGHT. AND IT HELPS THEY BECOME MORE CONFIDENT IN WHO THEY ARE AND THEY'RE NOT EASILY SWAYED.

AND IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CITY OF TAMARAC WANTS FOR THEIR CHILDREN, FOR THEIR FAMILIES, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A COMMUNITY.

WE NEED TO NOW INVEST IN THE YOUTH AND THEY ARE THE FUTURE.

AND IF YOU WANT TAMARAC TO BE ALL THAT IT IS AND THAT MUCH MORE, WE DO BRING IN A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOLERS, AND IF ONE THING WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO EAT, SO WE DO PROVIDE BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I BESEECH YOU TO GO AHEAD AND JUST THINK ABOUT IT.

AND IF YOU DO ALLOW US, IT WILL NOT JUST BE A BENEFIT TO US, BUT A BENEFIT TO YOU GUYS AND AT LARGE, THE FAMILIES IN TAMARAC.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS GWENDOLYN JAMES, AND I'M FROM FORT MYERS, TAMPA.

THE HUB INTERNATIONAL IS MY PLACE OF WORSHIP.

YES, I THERE ARE MANY CHURCHES IN FORT MYERS AND TAMPA, BUT THERE'S A SPECIAL, SPECIAL THING WITH THE HUB INTERNATIONAL.

I'M GOING TO SAY WHY? MY DAUGHTER WAS DIAGNOSED WITH MS. AT AGE 26, 2006, AND WITH THE PRIOR OF THE HUB INTERNATIONAL AND THEIR ENCOURAGEMENT, MY DAUGHTER HAD GIVEN UP ON LIFE AND SHE ALWAYS SAID, MOM, WHY YOU HAVE TO DRIVE SO FAR TO GO TO CHURCH? AND I SAID, IT'S THE WORSHIP IS THE PEOPLE.

IT'S THE THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY OFFER.

SHE SAID, I WILL NOT BE GOING THERE.

AND MY DAUGHTER WAS THE FIRST TO GET BAPTIZED IN THE HUB INTERNATIONAL ON JANUARY 1ST, AND SINCE THEN SHE HAS CHANGED. SHE WENT BACK TO HER DOCTOR.

THE LESIONS ARE GOING DOWN, SHE'S MORE RELAXED AND SHE'S IN HER BIBLE.

WE CAN'T GET READY.

I'M SURPRISED SHE'S NOT HERE THIS MORNING WITH ME.

SHE WE CANNOT GET READY SUNDAY MORNING AND LEFT HER.

SHE SAID, MOM, I WILL DRIVE TO THE HUB 100 TIMES BECAUSE MY HEART AND MY SOUL IS SO COMFORTABLE.

SHE SUFFERED ANXIETY ATTACK AND BECAUSE OF THE HUB INTERNATIONAL, SHE'S ALWAYS ON THE PRAYER MEETING.

SHE'S MORE RELAXED AND SO SHE IS STILL A YOUTH TO ME AND THE HUB HAS DONE A LOT FOR HER.

I COULD BURY HER TWO YEARS AGO AND BECAUSE OF HOW THE HUB CALLED HER PASTOR WHILE THE CALLER ALMOST EVERY DAY AND SHE'S IN INVOLVING THEIR, THEIR THEIR DESIGNING WITH THE FLIERS AND SO IT MAKES HER SETTLED AND MAKE HER MOVING ON WITH HER LIFE. SO PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY THE HUB INTERNATIONAL FROM MY DAUGHTER.

I'M BEGGING YOU.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I CAN SAY I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO WILL LIVE FOR MORE YEARS TO COME BECAUSE OF THE HUB INTERNATIONAL.

SOMETIMES NOT ABOUT MONEY.

IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY.

IT'S THE PEACE OF MIND OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

I DON'T WANT MY DAUGHTER TO COMMIT SUICIDE OR GET BAD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE FRIENDS LIKE THE HUB INTERNATIONAL.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THE HUB INTERNATIONAL.

NOT JUST FOR MONEY, FOR GOD'S SAKE, NOT JUST FOR MONEY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO STOP PERSECUTING CHRIST NOW, AND LET'S JUST MOVE IN ONE PLACE.

COME ON.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING THAT THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL NOW BE CLOSED AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN.

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

MY NAME IS SEYMOUR FROM THE HUB INTERNATIONAL, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

WHILE SITTING THERE THIS MORNING, I WALKED IN A LITTLE BIT LATE.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT A NEW WORD WAS ADDED TO MY VOCABULARY.

TODAY. IT'S NEURO ENDOVASCULAR SURGEON.

EVERYONE'S WONDERING, WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? BUT DOCTOR NORMAN, HIS VOICE ECHOED WHEN HE SAID I COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT GOD.

HIS VOICE ECHOED THROUGH THIS PLACE IN MY EAR, AND HE WENT ON TO SAY, MY PASTOR IS HERE.

WHAT DOES A PASTOR HAVE TO DO WITH SOMEONE'S ACHIEVEMENT? A PASTOR IS THE SHEPHERD OF THE HOUSE WHERE HE WENT AS A YOUNG MAN FOUND CHRIST AND HIS MIND WAS RENEWED, AND HE BECAME SOMETHING THAT HE COULD HAVE NEVER BECOME WITHOUT THE PRESENCE OF THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD WALKING IN HIM.

TODAY, I'M HERE TO SAY I JOINED THE HUB INTERNATIONAL AS A RESULT OF WATCHING FACEBOOK.

OUR PASTOR HAD A PROGRAM CALLED COVER THE CHILDREN.

COVER THE CHILDREN.

ANYONE HERE THAT CAN DISAGREE WITH ME THAT CHILDREN ARE AT RISK EVERY TIME THEY STEP OUT OF OUR DOORS IS UNTRUE.

OUR CHILDREN ARE AT RISK, AND THE MAIN FOCUS OF THIS HUB INTERNATIONAL IS NOT JUST TO BE A CHURCH, NOT JUST TO BE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN COME AND WORSHIP AND GO HOME AND GO BACK TO THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD FOR THE REST OF THE WEEK.

BUT TO HAVE YOUR MINDS RENEWED BY THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD, WE'RE HERE TODAY NOT JUST TO ASK YOU TO CHANGE A ZONING FOR A BUILDING, BUT TO POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMARAC AND THE OUTCOMES OF A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WILL SEE A BRIGHT SIGN ON THE BUILDING AND COME OVER AND SAY, MOM, I FOUND A CHURCH THAT CARES.

I FOUND A CHURCH WHERE GOD HEARS ME WHEN I PRAY.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.

IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

AMEN. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE MICHAEL MORENO, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT, MAKING A PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. AND IF IT WASN'T OFFICIAL, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED.

GOOD MORNING, MICHAEL MARINO.

AND I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE HONOREES FROM THIS MORNING.

IT WAS A GREAT CEREMONY.

I'M HONORED TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE HUB INTERNATIONAL CHURCH TO REQUEST THE APPROVAL FOR THIS ESTABLISHMENT OF USE APPLICATION.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL THE MEMBERS FOR TAKING THEIR TIME TO YOU KNOW, FROM THEIR DAILY ACTIVITIES AND WORK TO COME OUT HERE IN SUPPORT OF, OF US THE NEXT AND THANK YOU.

GRAB THIS. SO THE OBJECTIVE, OF COURSE, IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE COMPATIBILITY WITH EXISTING AND AND SURROUNDING BUSINESSES DUE TO DIFFERING TRAFFIC PATTERNS, BUSINESS HOURS.

BUT. SORRY.

THERE WE GO. SO BEFORE I GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HUB IS MADE UP OF A REALLY AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE PASTOR, WHO ARE REALLY DOING WONDERFUL THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME UP HERE HAVE LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE DOING THEM RIGHT NOW.

AND THIS IS, OF COURSE, A VERY IMPORTANT FOR THEM AS YOU AS YOU'VE SEEN.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THIS GROUP THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, DOING ALL THESE GREAT THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAVE A HOME, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO SETTLE INTO THAT HOME.

AND WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU ALLOW THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF TAX REVENUE AND THE PRECEDENT THAT IT MIGHT SET, WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE BENEFITS, AS YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OF THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE LET YOU KNOW ABOUT FAR OUTWEIGH THE PERCEIVED DRAWBACKS.

THIS THIS BUILDING, THE EXISTING PERMITTED USE IS OFFICE.

THE CURRENT OWNER IS HUB HOLD UNITED BELIEVERS AND THE PROPOSED USE IS RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND OFFICE.

THE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1997.

IT HAS 17,110FT² AND OCCUPIES APPROXIMATELY 2.74 ACRES OF LAND.

THE ACQUISITION PRICE WAS 4,250,000.

IT WAS ACQUIRED IN DECEMBER 29TH, 2022.

IT HAS THREE DISABILITY BATHROOMS, 135 PARKING SPACES AND SIX PARKING SPOTS FOR DISABLED.

THE CURRENT ZONING, OF COURSE, IS BUSINESS PARK.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.

TO REQUEST THAT AN ESTABLISHMENT OF USE BE APPROVED SO THAT THE BUILDING CAN BE USED FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

THE CURRENT USE, OF COURSE, IS OFFICE SPACE.

AND THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS CATEGORIZED AS INDUSTRIAL.

THERE ARE 43 PARKING SPACES.

THERE'S 68 PARKING SPACES FOR THE INTENDED USE.

WE REQUIRE.

THE CITY REQUIRES 68 PARKING SPACES.

FOR A BUILDING WITH SIMILAR SQUARE FOOTAGE.

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THE BUILDING ACTUALLY HAS 135 PARKING SPACES, SO THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING THERE.

THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF THE BUILDING.

THERE'S A LARGE LAKE THERE IN THE BACK, AND IT'S RIGHT ALONG NOB HILL ROAD.

THIS IS A SURVEY OF THE BUILDING SHOWING YOU THE PARKING SPOTS.

AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AMPLE ROOM THERE FOR FOR THE CONGREGANTS.

SOME OF THE EXTERIOR PHOTOS OF THE BUILDING.

AND THIS IS THE HISTORY, WAS THAT IT WAS PURCHASED IN NOVEMBER OF 1988 BY MINI MART DEVELOPMENT.

THEY SOLD IT TO US.

THEY ACTUALLY SOLD IT TO SAM BUTTERS WHO PURCHASED IT IN IN 1988.

THIS WAS A VACANT PIECE OF LAND AT THAT POINT.

THEY BUILT THE CURRENT STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS COMPLETED AROUND 1997.

IN JULY 2004, THEY SOLD IT TO THE SEMINOLE CASUALTY INSURANCE COMPANY, WHO USED IT AS AN INSURANCE COMPANY.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, LATER THAT COMPANY WAS TAKEN OVER AND IT WAS WENT INTO RECEIVERSHIP AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL SERVICES TOOK IT OVER, AND THEY APPEAR TO HAVE USED IT ALSO DURING THAT TIME AS A COMPUTER SOFTWARE COMPANY.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, IN DECEMBER 2022, IT WAS PURCHASED FROM NAL PROPERTIES BY THE HUB HOLY UNITED BELIEVERS.

AND OUR INTENDED USE IS FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

THE THE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HUB.

THEY WERE ESTABLISHED IN 2017 RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

SO THIS IS THEIR HOME. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THEIR HOME.

THEY'VE OPERATED IN TAMARAC SINCE IT'S THEIR INCEPTION.

THEY HOLD SERVICES THERE AND EVENTS AT THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER FROM 2017 UNTIL 2023.

THE HUB CURRENTLY HAS 150 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE MEMBERS AND ABOUT 85 FAMILIES.

AND THE CHURCH PLANS ON ALSO HOLDING WEEKLY AND OCCASIONAL EVENTS.

THEY HAVE ONE LOCATION WHICH IS IN TAMARAC ON KNOB HILL ROAD.

THEY HAVE SERVICES ON SUNDAYS AT 11 A.M., TUESDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS AND FRIDAYS AT 7 P.M., THURSDAYS IN THE EVENING AT 7 P.M., AND OCCASIONAL EVENTS ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.

THEIR STAFF HOURS ARE 9 TO 5.

THEY HAVE FIVE EMPLOYEES. AND THE HEAD PASTOR IS ALEX WALDO.

SOME OF THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE LIFE SKILLS TRAINING.

AND I WON'T BELABOR THIS TOO MUCH BECAUSE A FEW OF THE PEOPLE ALREADY CAME UP HERE AND TALKED ABOUT THIS.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE FROM MARRIAGE COUNSELING, NUTRITION TRAINING TO COMPUTER SKILLS.

THEY OFFER CHILDREN'S SERVICES LIKE TUTORING, DRAMA IN THE ARTS, ART OF DEBATE, MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, DANCE, COMPUTERS.

AND THEY ALSO SUPPLY, AS THEY'VE TOLD YOU, FOOD FOR THE NEEDY, DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAMS SUPPLIES DURING NATURAL DISASTERS MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS. SO THEY PROVIDE A WIDE VARIETY OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.

THERE WERE SOME VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SINCE HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.

THE BUSINESS LICENSE HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE WAS RESOLVED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

I BELIEVE THE ACTUALLY I BELIEVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE IS PENDING, BUT WE'RE ALMOST THERE.

PAUL, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT THAT WE'VE RESOLVED THAT ISSUE.

THERE WAS ALSO A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY, AND AN ANALYSIS WAS UNDERTAKEN FOR THE DAILY MORNING, PEAK HOUR AND EVENING PEAK CONDITIONS THAT ACTUALLY SHOW A DECREASE IN VEHICLE TRIPS.

SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC OR PARKING THERE.

AGAIN, PLENTY OF PARKING ACCORDING TO THE ANALYSIS BASED ON CURRENT CODE.

AND IF THERE'S A CHANGE OF THE USE, WE'LL ALSO BE IN COMPLIANCE THERE AS WELL.

THERE WAS 144 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY ON A TYPICAL WEEKDAY, WITH FOUR VEHICLE TRIPS OCCURRING DURING THE MORNING HOURS AND 11 VEHICLE TRIPS OCCURRING DURING THE EVENING HOURS. PER THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT HAND AND BASED ON CHURCH MEMBERSHIPS, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ABOUT 60 VEHICLE TRIPS ANTICIPATED ON SUNDAY MORNINGS.

AND JUST A FEW DURING THE WEEK, THE EXISTING OFFICE SPACE WILL PRODUCE 250 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY, WITH 37 VEHICLE TRIPS DURING THE MORNING HOURS AND 38 VEHICLE TRIPS DURING THE EVENING HOURS.

THE CHURCH FACILITY, AS I MENTIONED, HAS ABOUT 17,000FT² AND 68 PARKING SPACES.

THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

THE MISS DANIELSON WHO CONDUCTED THE STUDY SAID THERE'S MORE THAN AMPLE PARKING SPACES ON THE PROPERTY FOR A RELIGIOUS FACILITY.

AND THERE'S ALSO SIX DISABLED SPOTS AS WELL.

SO THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS EXPECTED TO ACTUALLY DECREASE THE TRAFFIC.

AND AGAIN, THE PARKING IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.

HERE'S AN INTERIOR SKETCH OF WHAT THE INSIDE LOOKS LIKE, THE EXISTING FLOOR PLAN.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE THERE.

YOU CAN SEE ALL THE SEATING ARRANGEMENTS.

THERE WILL BE A STAGE FOR WORSHIP.

SO THE CURRENT CODE AND COMPATIBILITY, THE NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, RIGHT FROM THE CODE, IT SAYS THAT NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE A RANGE OF SERVICES, INCLUDING OFFICE, RETAIL, INSTITUTIONAL AND RELATED USES THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE CITY'S RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.

THE WORD INSTITUTIONAL IN OXFORD INCLUDES CHURCHES.

SO THERE'S A THE CODE APPEARS TO IMPLICITLY ALLOW FOR CHURCHES BY USING THAT WORD INSTITUTIONAL.

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THE BUSINESS PARK DEFINITION ALSO TALKS ABOUT BUSINESS PARK, INDUSTRIAL PARK OR A CAMPUS SETTING, AND CAMPUSES AGAIN, CHURCHES.

SCHOOLS TYPICALLY ARE AKIN TO THE WORD CAMPUS.

THE USES THE CODE PERMITS VARIOUS USES EDUCATIONAL, CLINICAL, MEDICAL, RETAIL AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AS WELL.

SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT WE'VE REVIEWED AND SOME OF THE.

OF COURSE, THE US CONSTITUTION, THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION, STATE LAW SB 170, AND IN SUMMARY, THE PROPOSED USE IS EXPECTED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY WITH AMPLE PARKING NON-CONFLICTING TRAFFIC PATTERNS.

AND AGAIN, THE CODE SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES, WHICH INCLUDES RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THE PRESENCE OF THE CHURCH WITHIN THE BUSINESS PARK WILL, AS SOME HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED, WILL FOSTER A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND INCLUSIVITY.

IT WILL PROVIDE A SPIRITUAL HOME FOR THE RESIDENTS AND WORKERS ALIKE, PROMOTING A SENSE OF BELONGING AND COHESION WITHIN THE AREA, WHICH CAN OF COURSE LEAD TO INCREASED MORALE, PRODUCTIVITY, OVERALL WELL-BEING WHICH ULTIMATELY BENEFITS THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

HERE IN TAMARAC, ALSO, ALLOWING A CHURCH TO OPERATE WITHIN THIS BUSINESS PARK DEMONSTRATES OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND DIVERSITY.

IT SENDS A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE TO ALL FAITHS, ENHANCING OUR CITY'S REPUTATION AS AN INCLUSIVE AND WELCOME PLACE TO LIVE AND DO BUSINESS.

WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS EXPLICITLY PART OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC MISSION STATEMENT, WHICH I'D LIKE TO MENTION.

THE MISSION STATEMENT FROM YOUR WEBSITE SAYS THAT YOU KNOW THAT ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, WELFARE AND SAFETY OF ITS RESIDENTS.

IT ALSO SAYS IT WANTS TO PROMOTE QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS, A VIBRANT ECONOMY AND EXCELLENCE.

IT ALSO SAYS IT WANTS TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT RESPONDS TO THE CUSTOMER, CREATES AND INNOVATES, ACHIEVES RESULTS AND MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT BASED ON THE HUB'S PROVEN TRACK RECORD, IT WILL ABSOLUTELY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

IT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY PROMOTE AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CITY BY PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF TAMARAC RESIDENTS. YOU ALSO ON YOUR WEBSITE TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S VALUES, WHICH AMONG OTHER THINGS, INCLUDE VISION.

INTEGRITY. EFFICIENCY AND QUALITY SERVICE, DENYING THIS APPLICATION LACKS VISION.

IT'S SHORTSIGHTED.

IT WOULD FAIL TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE MANY POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS THE HUB CHURCH IS MAKING RIGHT NOW, AND WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO SETTLE INTO THEIR THEIR NEW HOME.

YOUR VISION STATEMENT SAYS TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT EMBRACES OUR DIFFERENCES AND CELEBRATES OUR SIMILARITIES, INCLUSION IS HOW WE WILL UNLEASH THE POWER OF DIVERSE.

THIS IS FROM YOUR WEBSITE, BY THE WAY.

UNLEASH THE POWER OF DIVERSITY AND EQUALITY TO ATTRACT AND WELCOME PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND BACKGROUNDS.

WELL, THE HUBS VISION IS COMPLETELY IN LINE WITH THE CITY OF TAMARAC STATED VISION.

THE HUB IS A MODEL OF DIVERSITY AND EQUALITY.

THE HUB WELCOMES PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

IT SUPPORTS AND NURTURES AND TAKES CARE OF THE SICK, THE NEEDY, THE YOUNG AND THE MOST VULNERABLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

ADDRESSING THE CONCERN OVER TAX REVENUE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE BENEFITS OF HAVING A THRIVING, VIBRANT COMMUNITY FAR OUTWEIGH THE POTENTIAL LOSS IN TAX DOLLARS.

AND MANY OF THE HAVE MADE THIS POINT VERY CLEAR.

THE POSITIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, AND SOCIAL COHESION CAN LEAD TO LONG TERM GAINS THAT WILL FAR SURPASS ANY SHORT TERM REVENUE LOSS.

AND AS FAR AS THE FEAR OF SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER CHURCHES, WELL, AGAIN, A PRECEDENT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET, AS I THINK THE FIRST SPEAKER MENTIONED.

YOUNG LADY OVER HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND NOT EVERY BUSINESS PARK IS SET UP TO HOUSE CHURCHES.

MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE OUT OF REACH FOR MANY CHURCHES.

AND THE CITY ALSO HAS THE TOOLS TO MITIGATE THIS PATH.

THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS PERCEIVED PROBLEM.

IN. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THAT ON YOUR WEBSITE, IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC REPRESENTS THE CITY WITH HONESTY, DECENCY, AND DOING WHAT'S RIGHT EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT POPULAR.

TODAY, I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT APPROVING THIS APPLICATION IS ABSOLUTELY DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.

AND TODAY WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COMMISSION DO THE RIGHT THING AND APPROVE THIS ESTABLISHMENT OF USE APPLICATION.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE PROPOSAL AND GOD BLESS IT AGAIN.

THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR COMING.

THANK YOU.

CITY. WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION BY MAXINE CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COMMISSION MAXINE CALLOWAY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.

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WE'LL JUST GO OVER MY PRESENTATION AND I'LL BEGIN BY SAYING STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THIS COMMISSION DENY THE REQUEST TO ESTABLISH A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IN OUR BUSINESS PARK DISTRICT.

AND THIS PRESENTATION WILL THAT I'LL GO THROUGH WILL TOUCH ON SOME OF THE KEY POINTS AS TO WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT OPEN THE BUSINESS PARK IN THE CITY TO RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USES. SO TO BEGIN WITH.

SO I CAN BRING SOME CONTEXT TO THE APPLICATION.

THIS APPLICATION, ALTHOUGH FILED BY HUB INTERNATIONAL, IS NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HUB INTERNATIONAL.

THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND OR CODE AMEND THE TEXT TO ALLOW RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE IN THE BUSINESS PARK ZONING DISTRICT.

SO THIS SLIDE AT THE VERY TOP IS SHOWING YOU A PORTION OF THE OF THE CODE THAT HAS THE CHART THAT LISTS ALL THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THE CITY.

HIGHLIGHTED IS THE RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE.

AND I'LL TALK AS I GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE P'S STAND FOR.

BUT SPECIFICALLY, WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS TO AMEND THIS CHART TO ALLOW RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IN THE BUSINESS PARK, WHICH IS A BP ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO THIS APPLICATION ON ITS FACE IS BROAD SWEEPING.

IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO HUB INTERNATIONAL, ALTHOUGH WE WILL TALK ABOUT HUB INTERNATIONAL BECAUSE THEY ARE THE APPLICANT.

SO WE'LL SPEAK ABOUT CERTAIN FACTORS THAT THEIR APPLICATION BRING TO THE TABLE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND THIS COMMISSION THAT THE APPLICATION IS BROAD, SWEEPING AND WOULD IMPACT ALL THOSE AREAS.

YOU SEE WHERE THE ARROWS ARE POINTED, WHICH IS OUR BUSINESS PARK FROM THE WEST PART OF THE CITY DOWN TO THE EAST PART OF THE CITY.

SO SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, I JUST TOOK A SNAPSHOT OF OUR BUSINESS PARK WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUSINESS PARK.

WE KNOW THAT THE CITY'S BUSINESS PARK IS OUR GEM.

IT IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS PARK.

IT HAS LESS THAN 1.7% VACANCY RATE CURRENTLY, AND THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR AS LONG AS THE BUSINESS PARK HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.

WE CAN SEE FROM THIS SLIDE THAT IT ACCOMMODATES IT'S OUR HIGHEST PER CAPITA INCOME AREA IN THE CITY.

IT'S TAMARAC'S LARGEST EMPLOYMENT CENTER, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THIS SLIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WILLIAM R NASH LLC, WHICH IS A MECHANICAL AND ENGINEERING FIRM, THEY EMPLOY APPROXIMATELY 400 EMPLOYEES.

RIGHT NEXT TO THEM IS SONY'S CAR WASH.

WE KNOW SONY'S. THEY ARE A BIG MANUFACTURING COMPANY.

IN FACT THEY HAVE TWO.

THEY WILL HAVE TWO LOCATIONS IN OUR BUSINESS PARK, AND THIS ONE LOCATION ALONE EMPLOYS APPROXIMATELY 600 EMPLOYEES.

RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, GOING NORTH ON THIS SLIDE IS A SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN PURCHASED BY HUB INTERNATIONAL, BUT BEFORE IT WAS PURCHASED, IT WAS OCCUPIED BY INFOMART, AND THEY TOO HAD APPROXIMATELY 100 EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY OCCUPIED THIS BUILDING.

GOING FURTHER NORTH IS RICHLAND GROUP, WHICH IS A WARREN BUFFETT COMPANY.

THEY SPECIALIZE IN PRECIOUS METALS.

THEY EMPLOY ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 350 PEOPLE.

AND THEN GOING FURTHER NORTH IS OUR AMAZON COMPLEX THAT WAS RECENTLY BUILT.

AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF OUR LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN OUR BUSINESS PARK.

THEY EMPLOY APPROXIMATELY 600 600 EMPLOYEES.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE THE VALUE, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE BUSINESS PARK.

AND THAT AS AS I SAID BEFORE, IT IS ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PER CAPITA INCOME AREA IN THE CITY.

ALL RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE I SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WHILE.

WHILE I WAS SPEAKING, SO I'LL JUST HAVE THEM COME UP.

TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE HISTORY OF THE OCCUPANCY I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS.

THE APPLICANT DID TOUCH ON THIS.

BUT CONSISTENTLY WE WE HAVE SEEN THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN A MAJOR EMPLOYER BEFORE IT WAS ACQUIRED BY THE APPLICANT IN 2023. SO TO EMPHASIZE ON THE VALUE AND THE SCARCITY OF OUR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL LANDS, WE CONDUCTED AN ASSESSMENT LAST YEAR, AND THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE LOCAL ACT.

AND WE ALL REMEMBER THE LIVE LOCAL ACT AT CERTAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS THAT'S BUILT INTO IT, BUT IT ALSO HAS AN EXEMPTION IN IT FOR CITIES THAT ARE LESS THAN 20% OF INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

AND GUESS WHAT? THE CITY OF TAMARAC FELL UNDER THAT 20% BECAUSE OF OUR LIMITED INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

IN FACT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, WE ONLY HAVE 11.9% OF OUR LAND THAT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL TAMARAC IS 99% BUILT OUT. SO AT THIS POINT, THE SCARCITY OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONE LANDS WILL CONTINUE TO POSE A A CHALLENGE TO DEVELOPING NEW ECONOMIC DRIVERS.

WE KNOW THAT IT'S TAMARAC LARGEST EMPLOYMENT CENTER, AND WE KNOW THAT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY GENERATES THE HIGHEST TAXABLE REVENUES.

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TAMARAC ENCOMPASSES 12MI² AND, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, LESS THAN TWO SQUARE MILE, IS DEDICATED TO LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT. THE BUSINESS PART THAT'S WEST, THE PORTION THAT YOU SEE WEST OF UNIVERSITY DRIVE THAT IS APPROXIMATELY ONE SQUARE MILE IN SIZE.

SO TAMARAC ALREADY HAS LIMITED LAND SUPPLY FOR BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT, MAKING THE RESOURCE EXTREMELY SCARCE AND REQUIRES STRATEGIC INVESTMENT TO MAXIMIZE BENEFITS. I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT TALK ABOUT HUB INTERNATIONAL AND ALL THE VALUE THAT IT BRINGS TO A COMMUNITY AND THE CITY CONCURS. AND THIS IS WHY THE CITY HAS BEEN A PARTNER, AND WE HAVE SUPPORTED RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY FOR AS LONG AS OUR CODE HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE.

IN FACT, THE CITY ALLOWS RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IN MOST OF OUR PROMINENT ZONING DISTRICT.

AS YOU CAN SEE BY THIS SLIDE, RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLIES ARE ALLOWED IN OUR R-3 MU N MU C MU G ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL.

IN OUR ZONING DISTRICT, THEY ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT, MEANING THERE'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

THEY CAN GO IN WHETHER FREESTANDING OR IN A PLAZA.

WE HAVE ALLOWED THAT AS WELL.

SO THIS DEMONSTRATES THE CITY COMMITMENT TO FOSTER RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

THEY ARE ALLOWED. THERE ARE 37 THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

AND IN FACT, WE JUST PROCESSED AN INQUIRY YESTERDAY FOR ANOTHER ONE THAT'S COMING ON UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

SO THE CITY HAS BEEN OPEN AS A PART OF OUR CODE IN ALLOWING RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IN THE APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT TO FURTHER SHOW THIS, THIS MAP, DEMONSTRATE WHERE THE CITY ALLOWS RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

THE BLUE ALL THROUGH THE CITY, FROM EAST TO WEST IS WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT, WHETHER FREESTANDING OR IN PLAZAS.

IN FACT, IN IN COMPARISON TO OUR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, WHICH WE ONLY HAVE 11.9%, THE CITY ALLOWS RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IN A WHOPPING 27% OF THE AREAS IN OUR CITY, IN COMPARISON TO THE LESS THAN TWO SQUARE MILES THAT IS DEDICATED TO OUR BUSINESS PARK, WE ALLOW RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IN 3.2MI² THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO EVERYWHERE IN BLUE, AS I SAID, IS OPEN TO RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

AND THIS IS WHY WE BELIEVE THAT HUB INTERNATIONAL COULD FIND THEIR HOME HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC IN ANY OF THE BLUE AREAS YOU SEE IDENTIFIED, PERMITTED BY RIGHT, JUST NOT IN THE CITY'S BUSINESS PARK.

AND I JUST WANT TO TOUCH BEFORE I GO THROUGH THIS, RELATIVE TO THE CHURCH THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT THE CITY CARVED OUT IN THE BUSINESS PARK, THAT CHURCH IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS PARK. IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL AND ZONED COMMERCIAL.

IN 2005, WHEN THE SITE PLAN WAS FILED TO CONSTRUCT THAT CHURCH.

SO AS IT RELATES TO THE STANDARD OF THE REVIEW, THE CODE ALLOWS AN APPLICATION TO BE FILED FOR AN ESTABLISHMENT OF USE.

AND THERE ARE FIVE STANDARDS THAT THE APPLICATION MUST ADHERE TO AS IT RELATES TO THE STANDARD OF REVIEW.

IT IS STAFF POSITION THAT THE APPLICATION HAS NOT MET ALL FIVE STANDARD OF REVIEW, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE.

SO THE FIRST STANDARD IS THE NATURE OF THE USE AND WHETHER IT INVOLVES DWELLING ACTIVITY, SALES, PROCESSING, TYPE OF PRODUCT, STORAGE AMOUNT AND THE NATURE THEREOF, AND CLOSE OR OPEN. IT STAFF POSITION THAT THE APPLICATION IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE BP ZONING DISTRICT AND THE UNDERLYING LAND USE, WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL. WE BELIEVE IT WOULD CREATE AN UNDESIRABLE PRECEDENT IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AS DEMONSTRATED EARLIER, ALTHOUGH THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN FILED BY HUBBARD INTERNATIONAL. IT'S A BROAD, SWEEPING APPLICATION.

IT MEANS THAT RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE WOULD THEN BE PERMISSIBLE IF THIS COMMISSION WERE TO GRANT IT IN ALL THE BUSINESS PARK ZONING DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT WOULD THEREFORE CONTRIBUTE TO A DECREASE IN TAMARAC'S LIMITED LAND SUPPLY AVAILABLE FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL USES, AND THE NATURE OF THE USE ITSELF, WE BELIEVE, IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE BUSINESS PARK, WHICH IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A MIXTURE OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, OFFICE MANUFACTURING AND LIMITED RETAIL USE IN A BUSINESS PARK SETTING.

MOREOVER, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE, IF ALLOWED TO PENETRATE THE BUSINESS PARK COMES AS A TAX EXEMPT USE, MEANING THAT IT WOULD NOT BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR VISION AS IT RELATES TO A STRONG ECONOMIC BASE, STRONG EMPLOYMENT BASE IN THE BUSINESS PARK AS MENTIONED BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

THE HOURS OF OPERATION IS OUTSIDE THE NORMAL HOURS OF OPERATION FOR AN OFFICE, IN THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE WEEKEND ACTIVITY.

THERE'S GOING TO BE NIGHT ACTIVITY, SUNDAY ACTIVITY, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH A RELIGIOUS USE TYPE OF TYPE OF USE.

THE THE NEXT STANDARD IS STANDARD B, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH ANTICIPATED EMPLOYMENT.

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AND WE LOOKED AT THE EMPLOYMENT THAT ALL THE MAJOR MANUFACTURERS IN THE BUSINESS PARK GENERATE IN TERMS OF OVER 100.

FOR EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT TYPICAL FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE TO REQUIRE SKILLED WORKERS AND TO GENERATE CONSIDERABLE LARGE EMPLOYMENT BASE. THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT.

AND SO HAVING THEM PENETRATE THE BUSINESS PARK WOULD IMPACT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO ATTRACT A STRONG WORKFORCE.

AND SKILL WORKERS, AS WE KNOW, IS A GREAT IMPETUS TO BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND TO DEMAND CERTAIN SERVICES FROM OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.

AS IT RELATES TO TRANSPORTATION, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THE USE WOULD OF COURSE REQUIRE MORE PARKING.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE OFFICE USE REQUIRES IN TERMS OF PARKING.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALTHOUGH FEWER PEAK HOUR TRIPS WILL BE GENERATED FROM THE CHURCH, WE BELIEVE THAT A LARGER AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC DURING A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME MAY CREATE A DISRUPTION IN THE NORMAL TRAFFIC FLOW PATTERNS DURING NORMAL OFF PEAK HOURS.

THE LAST STANDARD HAS TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF NOISE, ODOR, FUMES, DUST, TOXIC MATERIAL AND VIBRATION.

AND THIS IS A DIFFICULT STANDARD.

IT KIND OF MEASURES THE PERFORMANCE OF ANY USE THAT GOES INTO A ZONING DISTRICT.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS TWO WOULD BE DISRUPTIVE TO THE BUSINESS PARK IN THAT THE SERVICES ARE CONDUCTED IN THE EVENING.

IT'S DURING THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE ARE TYPICALLY HOME.

IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH YOUR OFFICE HOURS, WHICH NORMALLY WHEN THE PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC IS COMING IN, DURING OFFICE HOURS, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO OCCUPY A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THEY ARE EITHER GONE TO WORK OR THEY'RE EITHER GONE TO SCHOOL.

SO AT THE TIME WHEN IT'S QUIET FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, THAT IS NORMALLY THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE ACTIVITY FROM A RELIGIOUS USE.

THE STANDARD E HAS TO DO WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES, UTILITIES AND WATER, AS WELL AS SANITARY SEWER.

ONCE AGAIN, THE STAFF'S POSITION THAT THE BUSINESS PARK IS STRUCTURED IN A WAY WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORTS OFFICE USE TO HAVING AN ASSEMBLY USE, THEN WOULD PUT A GREATER REQUIREMENT, GREATER STRAIN ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WITH MORE PEOPLE OCCUPYING A BUILDING OR OCCUPYING THAT SITE AT ONE GIVEN TIME.

SO THIS SLIDE HAS TO DO WITH THE BENEFITS OF A DIVERSE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL TAX BASE.

AND WE'LL LOOK AT A FEW OF THE SLIDES THAT CAME OUT OF THE 2024 BUDGET AS IT RELATES TO THE BURDEN THAT LACK OF REVENUE PUTS ON OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

BUT HAVING A STRONG, DIVERSE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL TAX BASE, LESS IS LESS.

RELIANCE ON A RESIDENTIAL AD VALOREM REVENUE.

IT STRENGTHENS THE CITY'S FISCAL RESILIENCY, BETTER ABLE TO ABSORB FISCAL SHOCK, IT ALLOWS FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE ESTABLISHMENT RATE.

IT SUPPORTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES WITHIN THE CITY, AND IT PLACES LESS PRESSURE ON OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

THIS SLIDE IS TAKEN DIRECTLY OUT OF THE 2024 BUDGET, WHICH STAFF DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME.

IT SHOWS A RELIANCE, A SIGNIFICANT RELIANCE ON SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY HAVE TO BEAR THE BURDEN ON THE AD VALOREM TAX AND REVENUE.

THERE WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE LAST YEAR THAT WAS REALLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE AMAZON, BUT MOST OF THE BURDEN AS IT IS NOW IS ON RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIFAMILY.

SO ALLOWING RELIGIOUS USE IN OUR BUSINESS PARK, WHICH IS NOT JUST HUB INTERNATIONAL, BUT ANY RELIGIOUS USE WOULD FURTHER ERODE THE VITALITY OF THE BUSINESS PARK AND OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT REVENUE AND WOULD INCREASE THAT TAX BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTIAL AND OUR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY OWNERS.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXCERPT FROM THE.

BUDGET. THIS IS THE CONCLUSION PAGE THAT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT THE CITY IS CONTINUED.

CHALLENGE CONTINUE TO FACE CHALLENGES AS IT RELATES TO GENERATING REVENUE, AND SO ONCE AGAIN ALLOWING RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN ALL OUR BUSINESS PARK ZONING DISTRICT, BECAUSE THEY'RE TAX EXEMPT, WOULD FURTHER INTENSIFY THAT CHALLENGE AT THE CITY CURRENTLY FACES AS IT RELATES TO BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND LESSEN THE BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS.

SO IN CONCLUSION, AS IT RELATES TO FISCAL IMPACT, WHILE WE ARE LOOKING JUST AT HUB INTERNATIONAL, THIS FISCAL IMPACT IS BROAD SWEEPING.

IF WE WERE TO AMEND THE CODE, ALLOW FOR A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE TO BE IN THE BUSINESS PARK DISTRICT.

THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES JUST FOR HUB INTERNATIONAL, THAT'S A $70,000 LOSS IN REVENUE AND THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED IN 2023.

SO THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS, OF IF THIS WERE TO OPEN UP THE BUSINESS PARK AND OTHER CHURCHES WERE TO MOVE IN, THEN THIS WOULD CONTINUE TO BE AN IMPACT.

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AS IT RELATES TO REVENUE.

THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE FOR HUB INTERNATIONAL.

AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING THAT HAPPENED ON FEBRUARY 7TH, 2024, THE PLANNING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY VOTED AT A 5 TO 0 TO DENY THE REQUEST AND TO ENCOURAGE HUB INTERNATIONAL TO FIND A LOCATION IN THE MANY ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR DANIEL COMMISSIONER.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'M JUST BAFFLED BECAUSE THIS IS OUR COMMERCE AREA.

HOWEVER, LAST WEEK IN STRATEGIC PLANNING, WE BASICALLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND MAKE ANYTHING OUR COMMERCE AREA.

IT'S FUNNY HOW I'VE HEARD A MAN SAY THIS BEFORE.

DATA CHANGES BASED ON WHAT YOU WANT.

SO TO SAY. OH, THIS IS JUST A COMMERCE AREA.

WE MADE IT A COMMERCE AREA WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK MAKING EAST THE COMMERCE AREA.

I THINK THAT'S UNFAIR TO SAY.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, BECAUSE THE CHURCH, WHICH I THINK IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING ON COMMERCIAL IN 2005.

OH, IT WAS COMMERCIAL. IT'S JUST CARVED OUT COMMERCIAL FOR THAT CHURCH.

SO I THINK MAYBE WHEN WE GO BACK TO STRATEGIC PLANNING, WE NEED TO FIND OTHER PLACES TO BE COMMERCIAL AREAS OF COMMERCE.

THE FACT THAT WE'RE UNDER 20%, WE ONLY 19% BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL, THAT'S ON YOU GUYS.

ALL WE GET COMING HERE IS APARTMENTS, BUILDINGS.

THAT'S BEEN A TAMARAC PROBLEM.

THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

SO I'M KIND OF HURT AND BAFFLED.

AND THANK GOD WE HAVE A CITY COMMISSION THAT CAN VOTE ON ITEMS LIKE THIS.

BECAUSE IF WE JUST LEFT IT TO THE CODE, WE WOULDN'T BE MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR RESIDENTS.

PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION SAID 37 CHURCHES.

WELL, WE HAVE OVER 70,000 RESIDENTS.

37 CHURCHES CANNOT ACCOMMODATE 30 CHURCHES.

SYNAGOGUES, YOU KNOW, CANNOT ACCOMMODATE OVER 70,000 RESIDENTS.

MOST OF THESE CHURCHES, BECAUSE I VISIT, AT LEAST IN MY DISTRICT, THEY CANNOT FIT MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE.

LET'S BE CLEAR, AND WE TALK ABOUT THE BLUE MIXED USE.

WELL, I KNOW FOR A FACT YOU CANNOT GET ANY SPACE THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED.

YOU CANNOT.

SO THAT'S NOT TRUE EITHER.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE IT ZONED FOR THAT, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO BUY IN THAT AREA.

AND IF I'VE SEEN AND I'M NEW, BUT A YEAR, I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT NEW ANYMORE WHERE WE BUY PROPERTY, IF THAT PROPERTY WAS THAT IMPORTANT TO US, WE WOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT.

SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT MEETING THE NEED OF THE RESIDENT, ESPECIALLY OUR YOUNGER RESIDENTS.

AND IT'S SHAMEFUL.

AND I GUESS THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FIGHT FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE UNDERDOG, THAT ARE BEING NOT NOT LOOKED AT FAIRLY.

AND I HOPE THIS COMMISSION SEE THAT BECAUSE MY CHURCH IS LESS THAN A MILE AWAY FROM THERE.

I'VE BEEN THERE 20 SOMETHING YEARS.

I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD TO GO TO THE CITY OF SUNRISE, PACKED OUT THE PLACE TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO WORSHIP.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU BUYING A CHURCH, GUESS WHAT? YOU BUY THE BUILDING THAT SUITS.

WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF URBAN PLANNING, AND I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THAT, GETTING MY MONEY TOGETHER TO INVEST TO MAKE SURE MY CHURCH HAVE A PLACE, AND I'VE BEEN THERE 20 SOMETHING YEARS AND HAVE NO REGRETS.

I WOULDN'T BE HERE AT THIS POINT WITHOUT MY CHURCH SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE BATTLE THEY'RE FEELING.

BUT LET'S BE TRUTHFUL, THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE.

LET'S BE TRUTHFUL.

MAKE EAST WE TALKED ABOUT IN STRATEGIC PLANNING.

MAKE EAST COMMERCE SINCE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MAKING OUR MONEY.

STOP SENDING US APARTMENT.

HE DOESN'T WANT IT.

BUT I'M SAYING LET'S OPEN UP, LOOK AT DIFFERENT PLACES, SINCE THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

LOOK AT DIFFERENT PLACES, BUT DO NOT PUT US IN A BIND.

MAKING PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

WE HAVE A CHOICE.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THANK YOU, MISS CALLOWAY.

TELL ME AGAIN THE LETTERING ZONING FOR P IS BY RIGHT, ALL OF THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT CHURCHES RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IS ALLOWED IN ARE PERMITTED BY.

RIGHT. SO IF WE GO BACK TO THAT CHART LET ME JUST DO THAT REAL QUICK SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT.

SO IT'S ALLOWED IN THE R3, WHICH IS THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE M1 MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE MCC MIXED USE COMMERCIAL, THE MOOG MIXED USE GENERAL, AS WELL AS THE PH, WHICH IS A.

I THINK IT'S UP THERE.

PUBLIC FACILITIES.

AND THEORETICALLY WOULD BE DOING A TEXT AMENDMENT TO GO TO BP.

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SO YOU WOULD BE PUTTING A P WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THE BP.

WHERE YOU SEE THE BP AT THE VERY TOP.

SO IT WOULD BE PUT IN A P IN THAT COLUMN, WHICH MEANS THEN IT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE.

IN ALL THESE AREAS.

OKAY. AND THEN IT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE BY RIGHT OR PERMISSIBLE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

IT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE BY RIGHT.

IT WOULD BE A P. SO IF WE DO THE TEXT AMENDMENT, IT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE BY RIGHT TRIGGERED IN ALL THE IN ALL THESE AREAS.

AND EXPLAIN WHAT BY RIGHT MEAN AND JUST AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S NO PUBLIC HEARING.

YOU GET A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT AT NO COST BECAUSE CHURCHES ARE EXEMPT FROM THE PAYMENT OF BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.

AND IF THERE'S ANY INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY, THEN YOU WOULD FILE A BUILDING PERMIT.

BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE A IS THERE A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WE COULD ADOPT? THAT GIVES PERMISSION, MAKES IT PERMISSIBLE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

YOU COULD MAKE IT PERMISSIBLE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

IT'S MY OPINION THAT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THERE IS THE RLUIPA WHICH IS A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT THAT SAYS THAT WE CANNOT MAKE ANYTHING MORE STRINGENT ON CHURCHES THAT WE DO ON ANY OTHER.

ANY OTHER ASSEMBLY USE.

AND SO IF WE ARE ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN CHIME IN, THEN WE COULD, BUT IT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC.

OKAY. MISS CALLOWAY, YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS TEXT, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS OVERHAUL OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, PARTICULARLY YOU WERE PLACING CHURCHES BY.

RIGHT. ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND UNIVERSITY IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION JUST LAST WEEK WE SAID PERHAPS WE COULD MOVE OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WHERE RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT AND THAT SORT OF STUFF WOULD BE ONTO UNIVERSITY AND, AND COMMERCIAL.

SO I DID SAY YEARS AGO THAT YOU WERE MAKING A MISTAKE BECAUSE NOW WE ARE WE'RE SAYING THEY CAN GO ON UNIVERSITY, THEY CAN GO ON COMMERCIAL, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A CHURCH NEXT TO A BAR OR A CHURCH NEXT TO A TAVERN OR LOUD MUSIC IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS IS NOT NECESSARILY.

RIGHT. SO THE VISION OVERALL FROM YEARS AGO IS THE PROBLEM.

NOT NOW. AND I SAID THAT ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD MEMORY, SO YOU DON'T I DO, AND I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

GO AHEAD. IF THE MAYOR YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT WE HAD SEVERAL WORKSHOPS REGARDING THE OVERALL OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MAINTAINED MUCH OF WHAT WAS HERE BEFORE.

SO THAT PROCESS WAS PUT IN CHURCHES WHERE THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED, SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH.

BUT THAT'S WHY THAT IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS PARK.

IT MAINTAINED ITS OWN ZONING DISTRICT.

DURING THAT DISCUSSION.

WE DID REACH A COMPROMISE THAT WAS SPEARHEADED BY YOU, COMMISSIONER, WHEN YOU ASKED FOR CHURCHES TO ALSO BE IN PLAZAS, BUT THEY WERE ALREADY PERMITTED.

AND THEN WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT IN SOME KIND OF RESTRICTION TO LIMIT THEM TO NOT MORE THAN TWO, NOT MORE THAN 20%.

SO THAT WAS NOT MAXINE COMING UP WITH NEW LOCATIONS THAT WAS MAKING SURE THAT EXISTING CHURCHES THAT WERE IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS WERE MAINTAINED AS A PART OF THE NEW ZONING OVERALL.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

AND THEN WE WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED AT NORTH LAUDERDALE AND LOOKED AT HOW THEY INCLUDED CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS IN THE PLAZA.

I THINK THEY THE MAIN THING WE WERE TRYING TO DO AT THE TIME WAS NOT ALLOW THEM IN PLAZA, AND THEN IT WAS YOUR YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ALLOW THEM IN THE PLAZA WITH THE 20% NO MORE THAN TWO AND AND AND SO IT WOULD NOT BE STRANGE TODAY THAT I SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE SINCE DAY ONE I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR CHURCHES. AND IF IT WERE NOT FOR MY VOICE DURING THAT TIME, THERE WOULD BE NO CHURCHES IN TAMARAC, NO CHURCHES IN PLAZAS CONTRIBUTING TO THESE 37 THAT WE HAVE.

SO TO, TO, TO BRING RECOLLECTION YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A SUPPORTER OF CHURCHES BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOU CANNOT

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QUANTIFY WHAT CHURCHES BRING.

IT IS NOT ABOUT A TAX BASE.

IT IS NOT ABOUT A COMMERCE DISTRICT.

IT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT CHURCHES THAT SHOULD BE WOVEN IN THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY, PROVIDING THESE SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER ARE WELL LOCATED AND SITUATED IN TAMARAC.

THIS IS A COMMERCE DISTRICT.

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD OR UNIVERSITY WHERE THERE'S LOTS OF TRAFFIC, WHERE YOU PUT WHERE YOU'VE PUT CHURCHES OR WHERE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAVE DONE THE STUDY TO PUT CHURCHES.

CURRENTLY, I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE GOING THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD CREATE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THAT THEY SHOULDN'T GO INTO THE COMMERCE DISTRICT WHERE THERE IS LESS TRAFFIC IS ACTUALLY IN THE REVERSE, RIGHT? WHAT? SO, SO SO, MISS CALLOWAY, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

I THINK THAT THE CHURCH IS NEEDED IN THAT AREA.

THEY'RE NEEDED IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M WILLING TO TO, TO TO TWEAK OUR VISION JUST A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE LAST WEEK YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT WE CAN TWEAK OUR VISION.

TAMARAC VILLAGE, THAT THIRD PARCEL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL COMMERCIAL.

WE'RE TWEAKING THAT VISION.

AND SO WE'RE QUICK TO TWEAK VISION BECAUSE WE WANT TO BUILD 12 STOREY BUILDINGS AND BRINGING ALL THESE APARTMENTS.

BUT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO TWEAK FOR A CHURCH NOT RIGHT.

AND MY GOD IS STILL WATCHING SINCE 2017.

LATE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MISS CALLOWAY, YOU SAID IT'S 98% OCCUPANCY RATE IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.

YES. SO THAT MEANS ANOTHER CHURCH CAN'T MOVE INTO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, BASICALLY.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NO MORE PROPERTIES AVAILABLE UNTIL ONE BECOMES AVAILABLE.

THIS BECAME AVAILABLE IN 2023 AND IT WAS BOUGHT.

SO WHEN ONE DOES BECOME AVAILABLE, NOTHING WOULD PRECLUDE A CHURCH FROM ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY.

SO ANY CHURCH CAN COME THERE IF IT BECOMES AVAILABLE.

ABSOLUTELY. AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES IN THAT AREA? HAVE HAVE THEY BEEN INCREASING IN TERMS OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IN TERMS OF THE VALUE OF PROPERTIES? NO, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.

WE FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IS YOUR JOB CREATOR.

IT'S AND IT'S SO LIMITED.

AND JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD, IT'S 11.9% THAT WE HAVE LEFT IN THE CITY.

AND SO BECAUSE IT'S SO SCARCE, STAFF FOCUS ON THE THE EMPLOYMENT THAT'S BEING GENERATED, AS WELL AS THE IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE IF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IS ALLOWED ALL THROUGH OUR BUSINESS PARKS, BOTH ON THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY.

OKAY. AND MR. MISTER MARINO THE CHURCH PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.

FOR WHAT AMOUNT? AGAIN, I THOUGHT WAS IT 4 MILLION? YEAH, 4.9, I BELIEVE IT WAS.

AND WHERE DID THE CHURCH STARTED? WHERE DID THE CHURCH STARTED BEFORE? I'M SORRY. WHERE WHERE DID THE CHURCH BEGIN? WHERE THEY WERE AT THE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN TAMARAC WAS WHERE THEY GOT THEIR START.

SO THEY STARTED AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, WORKING HARD TOGETHER TO RAISE THE MONEY.

AND THEY PUT THE MONEY TOGETHER, AND THEY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S RIGHT. ISN'T ISN'T THAT WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT? COMING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW? YES, IT IS. AND ISN'T THAT PART OF CAPITALISM HAVING HAVING THE MONEY TO PURCHASE SOMETHING? THAT'S RIGHT. IN TERMS OF THE YOU SAID THEY CURRENTLY HAD NO PLACE OF WORSHIP.

WERE THEY AWARE THAT WHEN THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY THAT IT WAS NOT ZONED FOR, FOR RELIGIOUS USE? I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE IN THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS AND I THINK THAT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE PRECEDENT, SOME OF THE OTHER CHURCH, THE OTHER CHURCH, I THINK THAT THE SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER COMMUNITY CHRISTIAN, THAT I GUESS IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PRESUMED.

BUT AGAIN, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE DUE DILIGENCE WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED, SO.

AND SPEAK TO THAT IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL LANGUAGE, YOU SAID INSTITUTIONAL.

I'M NOT ATTORNEY. I'M NOT A BRILLIANT MIND.

LIKE LIKE MADAM MAYOR IN IN TERMS OF LEGAL, LEGAL MINDS YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY.

YOU SAID INSTITUTIONAL AND CHURCHES CAN QUALIFY BASED ON THE CODE.

THE CODE TEN DASH 2.382, WHICH IS TALKS ABOUT NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

IT SAYS THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY INTENDED TO PROVIDE A RANGE OF SERVICES, WHICH INCLUDE OFFICE, RETAIL, INSTITUTIONAL.

AND IF YOU LOOK UP THE WORD INSTITUTIONAL IN THE OXFORD DICTIONARY, IT TALKS ABOUT CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS, THAT A CHURCH IS AN INSTITUTION, A SCHOOL IS AN INSTITUTION.

SO IT SEEMS THAT BY DEFINITION IT'S IMPLICITLY ALLOWED BY THE CODE BECAUSE OF THAT WORD.

IF THAT WASN'T THE INTENTION, THEN PROBABLY THE INSTITUTIONAL SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THERE.

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OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF THE MAKEUP OF THE OF THE CHURCH, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE PREDOMINANT DEMOGRAPHIC OF, OF OF THE HUB, THE PREDOMINANT DEMOGRAPHIC OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ATTEND THE CHURCH THAT I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO? I WOULD DEFER TO MR. DEAN OR THE PASTOR ON THAT OF THE EXACT MAKEUP OF THE CHURCH.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THEM THAT ARE TAMARAC RESIDENTS.

WHAT'S THAT? AND A LOT OF YOUNG.

YEAH. A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE.

CERTAINLY. AND OF COURSE, THE PASTOR IS A YOUNG PERSON AND HIS WIFE, AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE APPARENTLY INSPIRED A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE SUCH A GOOD TURNOUT TODAY.

AND IT PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE IF IT WAS IN THE EVENING.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE.

AND IN TERMS OF WHITE TAMARAC.

WHY WHY, WHY DIDN'T THE CHURCH GO ACROSS THE STREET TO CORAL SPRINGS OR SUNRISE OR LAUDERDALE? I THINK IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE THEY STARTED.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THEIR HOME.

THIS IS THEY STARTED THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

THEY BUILT THIS FROM THE GROUND UP IN TAMARAC.

AND SO IT ONLY MADE LOGICAL SENSE THAT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO STAY IN TAMARAC AND CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS CONGREGATION IN TAMARAC.

THAT'S WHAT THE OPTIONS FOR THEM TO PURCHASE OTHER PROPERTIES.

IN TAMARAC PROBABLY I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I WASN'T PART OF THE ACQUISITION AND WHAT THEY LOOKED AT OR WHAT WAS AVAILABLE AND NOT AVAILABLE, BUT BUT AGAIN, FOR A CHURCH THIS SIZE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO COME BY A BUILDING THAT HAS ENOUGH PARKING THAT'S ACCESSIBLE, THAT'S CENTRALLY LOCATED.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO WHY, YOU KNOW, A CHURCH OR WHY ANYBODY BUYS A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS YOU KNOW, THIS THIS ONE HAPPENED TO HAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY NEEDED.

IT HAPPENED TO HAVE THE PARKING THAT THEY NEEDED, AND IT WAS IN A LOCATION THAT WAS YOU KNOW, ACCESSIBLE TO THE TO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CONGREGATION.

THANKS. I THINK MISS CALLOWAY MENTIONED THAT THAT THIS THIS IS A A DISTRICT THAT CREATES A LOT OF JOB.

I THINK JUST HEARING THE VISION OF THE CHURCH, THEY ARE ABOUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ABOUT EMPOWERING PEOPLE.

IT'S YOUNGER PEOPLE.

I THINK PART OF ELECTED LEADERSHIP IS NOT NECESSARILY IS HAVING VISION AND SEEING HOW YOU CAN PUT TWO THINGS TOGETHER THAT MIGHT NOT FIT TOGETHER.

IT'S IMPRESSIVE THAT THE CHURCH IS NEXT TO A COMPANY OWNED BY WARREN BUFFETT.

ISN'T THAT THE EPITOME OF AMERICA? THAT ONE OF THE RICHEST MEN IN THE WORLD CAN BE NEXT TO A CHURCH AT PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN? AND I THINK COMBINING THOSE TWO AND HAVING A CHURCH WHERE IT'S HELPING THE COMMUNITY CREATING JOBS, WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES TO PARTNER WITH THE CHURCH AND COME IN, EMPOWER THESE PEOPLE AND GIVE THEM SKILLS, WHETHER IT'S INDUSTRIAL STUFF, E-COMMERCE, ALL THE COMPANIES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

AND WHILE IT IS NOT NECESSARILY IT DOESN'T FIT THE BUSINESS COMMERCE THAT THAT WE HAVE, I THINK THE COMMUNITY CONNECTION THAT WE CAN CREATE AND THAT WE CAN BUILD WITH HAVING THE CHURCH THERE IN THE IN THE DISTRICT, I THINK IT'S A GREAT FIT.

SO I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT HAVING THE THE CHURCH AT THAT BUILDING.

MAY I ADD ALSO ADD ONE OTHER THING IS THAT IN MISS CALLOWAY'S PRESENTATION, SHE MENTIONED THE IMPORTANCE OF A OF A SKILLED WORKFORCE HERE IN TAMARAC AND HOW IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL THAT IS TO DEVELOPING THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS CHURCH IS DOING RIGHT NOW.

AND WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY PLAN ON CONTINUING TO DO, WHICH IS TO YOU KNOW, EMPOWER YOUNG PEOPLE, TEACH THEM SKILLS, TEACH THEM BUSINESS YOU KNOW, INTERVIEWS, HOW TO HOW TO HOW TO GO TO AN INTERVIEW, HOW, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA SKILLS, COMPUTER SKILLS, LIFE SKILLS COUNSELING MENTORSHIPS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CHURCH THAT'S ALREADY DOING THIS WORK HERE IN THE COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP THE SKILLED WORKFORCE.

AND ANOTHER POINT I WANTED TO MENTION WAS THAT IN ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT MISS CALLOWAY HAD SHE HAD UP THERE THAT IT SAID THERE WAS A, A SURGE, A SURGE IN REVENUES FROM PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE OF THE INCREASES IN PROPERTY VALUES.

AND SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT, IS THAT THAT WE, THE CITY OF TAMARAC, ALREADY HAS, HAS HAD AN UPTICK, AN INCREASE IN, IN PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH OF COURSE MEANS MORE PROPERTY TAXES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TO MENTION THAT AND ALSO THE, THE POINT THAT DOCTOR DANIEL HAD MADE IS THAT YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE ISSUE, THIS NOTION THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO ALL THESE CHURCHES WANTING TO COME INTO BUSINESS PARKS.

YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT'S A BIT OVERBLOWN.

YOU KNOW, MOST CHURCHES ARE SMALL, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE IN THE STRIP SHOPPING CENTERS, WHICH I THINK.

COMMISSIONER. BOLTON SPOKE TO THEY'RE THEY'RE MOSTLY SMALL CHURCHES.

THIS IS A GREAT SUCCESS STORY.

LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE AMERICAN DREAM.

THEY'VE YOU KNOW, STARTED IN A LITTLE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND NOW THEY BOUGHT A 4 MILLION PLUS BUILDING.

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AND IT'S COMMENDABLE.

IT'S ADMIRABLE.

AND WE THINK THAT BY ALLOWING THIS, IT WILL IT WILL ALLOW AN ACCOMMODATION TO MORE RESIDENTS.

THE, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONER DANIEL MENTIONED THERE'S 70,000 RESIDENTS AND THERE'S ONLY A SMALL NUMBER OF CHURCHES.

SO WE THINK THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IS A POSITIVE THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THERE'S ALSO NOT TO MENTION A LOT OF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WERE MENTIONED HERE.

IN FACT, THE LAST MEETING WE WERE AT, SOMEBODY WAS WANTING TO DEVELOP A HOTEL.

THERE'S A MULTI HOUSING GOING UP COMMERCIAL WHICH IS ALSO INCREASING THE TAX BASE AS WE SPEAK.

SO WE THINK THAT ALSO THE CHURCH MEMBERS THAT ARE COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF TAMARAC INTO THE COMMUNITY ARE USING THE RESTAURANTS.

THEY'RE GOING TO THE RESTAURANTS, THEY'RE PATRONIZING THE BUSINESSES, THEY'RE USING GAS STATIONS.

THEY'LL POTENTIALLY BUY HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE THINGS AND CERTAINLY THINGS THAT THE THE COMMISSION SHOULD, SHOULD CONSIDER AND MAKE IN THEIR DECISION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FURTHER.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST FOR THE RECORD.

I'M A CHRIST BELIEVER.

I AM A CHRISTIAN BY FAITH.

I LOVE WHAT THE HUB DOES.

I'VE BEEN TO THE HUB PREVIOUSLY BEFORE, AND THIS IS A VERY POLITICAL ITEM, UNFORTUNATELY.

BECAUSE IT GETS TWISTED BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE.

AND ON EITHER WAY, ON HOW WE VOTE.

QUESTION. AND I JUST SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE NOW I HAVE TO BE DISCLOSING THAT THAT'S HOW RIDICULOUS IT'S GOTTEN.

IS THE APPLICANT AMENABLE TO WITH PAY THE TAXES THAT ARE DUE BASED ON THE PRICE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN.

WELL, THEN I THINK WE WOULD BE.

NOW WE'RE BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN, SAY, THE CHRIST COMMUNITY CHURCH.

WAS IT? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE IN A BUSINESS PARK FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND.

THEY'RE HAVE THEIR TAX EXEMPTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, WOULD THEY BE AMENABLE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD.

WELL, BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I ASK YOU IS BECAUSE COMMISSIONER BOAK AND I'M GOING TO GET TO THAT.

THE BULK OF THE CONVERSATION OF THE CHURCH ITSELF, IT'S SERVICES VERSUS WORSHIP.

RIGHT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS HERE.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THE RECORD.

THE COMMUNITY CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS PARK.

THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.

AND DO YOU TO THAT QUESTION, DO YOU KNOW WHY TO THAT ANSWER, DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY ONLY PAY TAXES ON $25 MILLION OR EXEMPTED? I APOLOGIZE.

DO I KNOW? OKAY. WHAT DID YOU SAY? COMMISSIONER. THEY HAVE A SPECIAL EXEMPTION.

NO, THEY HAVE A MAJOR REVISED SITE.

PLAN THEY USE WAS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN 2005 WHEN THEY CAME FORWARD.

SO NOW THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS PARK.

THE PROPERTY WAS ZONED B-2 AT THE TIME IN 2005, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL, WHICH ALLOWED CHURCH.

SO THEY WERE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.

THEY ONLY FILED A MAJOR REVISED SITE PLAN TO BUILD THE BUILDING.

SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT IN THE SOMEONE'S WATCHING.

THAT MEANS THAT RIGHT NOW SOMEONE IF THIS PASSES BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO PASS BASED ON THE THREE COMMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY MADE, SOMEONE CAN BUY A PROPERTY ON THE EAST CORNER ON PROSPECT, MAKE THAT INTO A CHURCH, GO TO FORT LAUDERDALE AIRPORT AREA, BUY THAT.

MAKE IT A CHURCH.

GO TO COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, BUY THE BUILDING ANY AVAILABLE BUILDING, AND THEN BUY EVERY AVAILABLE BUILDING ON THE WEST SIDE OF NOB HILL.

AND MAKE THAT A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION AND ALL OUR BUSINESS PARK ZONING DISTRICT.

THAT'S POSSIBLE.

YES. OKAY.

I JUST WANTED THAT FOR THE RECORD.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A FINANCIAL BURDEN.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS MENTIONED AND.

JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE THE ACTUAL VALIDITY OF WHY THEY'RE DOING THIS.

I'M MYSELF A CHURCHGOER.

ON PUBLICLY, I TITHE, IF YOU KNOW WHAT TITHING IS, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND.

A CITY ATTORNEY. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU.

CAN WE DO A SPECIAL EXEMPTION FOR THIS CHURCH AND THEN DO A MORATORIUM AFTER JUST TO ALLOW THIS FACILITY TO BE PUT IN PLACE, CONSIDERING THAT THE BUILDING HAS ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED? OFFICE SERVICES HAVE ALREADY BEEN RENDERED AND WILL BE RENDERED.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO? I WOULD WITH RESPECT TO TODAY, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE APPLICATION BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

WITH RESPECT TO THE FUTURE, IF YOU WANT STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REVIEW THESE BUSINESS PARKS AND OTHER

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AREAS TO LOOK AT IT FROM A ISSUES RAISED TODAY, OBVIOUSLY MORATORIUM HAS BEEN IN PLACE TO REVIEW CODES TO MAKE THE CODE BETTER ADDRESS NEEDS SO YOU CAN EVENTUALLY IMPOSE SOME FORM OF MORATORIUM TO STUDY THE ISSUES BEING RAISED TODAY.

BUT TODAY WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE APPLICATION BEFORE US.

AND THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, THAT MEANS THAT A MOSQUE OR A JEWISH TEMPLE CAN GO RIGHT NEXT TO THIS CHURCH.

BASED ON THE PERMITTED USE, AND I CALL IT THE BP BUSINESS PARK.

ANY RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION CAN BE PERMITTED.

AND A BP IF ESTABLISHMENT USES APPROVED.

TO YOUR TO THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY.

YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING LAST THAT IT'S OVERBLOWN.

WHAT COMMISSIONER DANIEL WAS SAYING.

I DON'T THINK IT'S OVERBLOWN.

AND I'M TRYING TO PUT THE TWO THINGS ASIDE, THE BUSINESS PART OF IT, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME INSTITUTIONS THAT AND QUOTE UNQUOTE, PASTURES THAT THEY'RE ALL BUSINESS.

THEY'RE NOT GOD.

SO THIS IS ACROSS THE NATION.

THIS IS ACROSS THE WORLD.

THIS IS ACROSS CITIES, RIGHT? THEY ARE MONEY HUNGRY.

AND WE HAVE TO DECIPHER WHETHER IT'S A GODLY MISSION OR WE'RE WORKING FOR THE DEVIL AT THIS POINT.

SO I, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT.

AND I BELIEVE, TRULY, THE HUB DOES DO THE RIGHT WORK.

AS FAR AS THEIR PASTOR AND THEIR MINISTRY BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE SOME OF THEM JUST WANT TO PASS ON CAPITAL GAINS.

SOME OF THEM DON'T WANT TO BE PAYING TAXES.

SOME OF THEM HAVE TO OFFLOAD CASH.

AND WHAT THEY DO FIND PROPERTIES, AND THEY PAY CASH FOR THE BUILDING AND THEY WALK AWAY AND NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW OF ONE PROPERTY IN HIS CITY THAT BOUGHT MASSIVE PROPERTY, SMALL BUILDING.

IT WAS AN OLD BANK, AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.

AND IT'S CHURCH OWNED BY A HUGE CHURCH ORGANIZATION.

I'M GOING TO REFRAIN FROM EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TO MENTION ONE OTHER.

ONE OTHER THING, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IS THAT WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, HOW WE WANTED TO DO IT, AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE PATH FORWARD WAS TO FILE AN ESTABLISHMENT OF USE APPLICATION.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

WE YOU KNOW, THIS WAS NEVER YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE HUB TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

WE YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WHAT OTHER CHURCHES DO THESE OTHER TYPES OF CHURCHES THAT YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY ISN'T OUR CONCERN.

WHAT WE WHAT WE WANT IS TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE AT THIS BUILDING.

AND IF THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EXCEPTION WAS THE PATH FORWARD, WE WOULD HAVE GONE THAT ROUTE.

BUT WE WERE TOLD WE COULDN'T DO IT.

WE WERE TOLD THAT IS NOT THE THAT THE ONLY WAY FORWARD WAS AN ESTABLISHMENT OF USE.

SO. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT WAS TOLD TO US.

IS THERE SOME OTHER MOTIVE HERE? BUT WE WOULD HAVE.

WE'D HAVE. WE WOULD HAVE NEVER WASTED OUR TIME AND TAKEN THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND FILE AN ESTABLISHMENT OF USE APPLICATION.

IF WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN, IF WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR IT WOULD OPEN UP THE PANDORA'S BOX.

AND SO AND WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AND THIS WE WERE TOLD, NO, YOU GOT TO GO THIS THIS ROUTE.

OKAY, WELL, WE'LL GO THAT ROUTE.

SO JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, FOOD FOR THOUGHT THERE BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NOT HAVE GONE THIS ROUTE HAD WE KNOWN THAT WE COULD GO THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION ROUTE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR SORRY.

HE SAID SOMETHING, AND I JUST SAW HER.

CAN YOU ANSWER TO THAT? YES. JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION ROUTE COULD NOT BE AVAILABLE IF THE USE IS NOT PERMISSIBLE AT ALL IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT, THEN THAT APPLICATION IS NOT A VIABLE ONE.

SO THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT OR ANYONE TO FILE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, BECAUSE THE USE IS NOT LISTED AT ALL IN OUR PERMITTED USE CHART.

THANK YOU. IF I CAN, IF I MAY I'M SORRY.

WE THIS IS NOT A QUASI JUDICIAL.

WE DON'T HAVE THIS BACK AND FORTH, SO.

BUT YOU CAN BUT BUT YOU CAN JUST WANTS TO FINISH SPEAKING WITH YOU.

THEN GO AHEAD. YOU CAN YOU CAN RELAY THAT ANSWER TO ME.

THEIR RESPONSE? YEAH, JUST I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE IF IF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION, AGAIN IS NOT AN OPTION, THEN IF YOU ALL COULD TELL HER SO MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN TELL WHAT IS THE OPTION THEN IF THE THAT THAT WOULD NOT ENTAIL OPENING THIS UP TO EVERY CHURCH IN

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FLORIDA TO COME INTO TAMARAC TO COME INTO A BUSINESS PARK, IS THERE ANOTHER OPTION? MR. MARINO, WE HERE ON THIS APPLICATION, LET'S DEAL WITH THIS APPLICATION.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO QUICK.

WE KEEP HEARING THE ZONING, AND I TODAY HAS TAUGHT ME THAT A COMMISSION IS NEEDED MORE THAN EVER THAT WE NEED.

AND THE DECISIONS WE MAKE MATTERS.

ZONING. I REMEMBER A FEW MONTHS AGO, THE SCHOOL CAME UP.

THEY WERE HERE. THEY GOT AN AWARD TODAY.

THE NAME.

I'M LOST FOR THE NAME RIGHT NOW.

BETH BETHLEHEM, THE BUILDING THEY WERE PURCHASING WAS ZONED FOR A SCHOOL.

THEN YOU JUST CHANGED.

WE WE JUST CHANGED THE ZONING.

OKAY? THE ZONING WAS CHANGED.

IT WAS. IT WAS CHANGED FROM TO RESIDENTIAL.

I REMEMBER HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT ANYWAY, THE ZONING WAS CHANGED.

ZONING CHANGE.

RIGHT. THINGS CHANGE.

WE HAD A DENSITY.

I THINK IT WAS CALLED A DENSITY TRAINING OR SOMETHING.

AND THEY TALKED ABOUT.

BUILDING WHEN YOUR CITY HAS ALREADY USED UP THE LAND.

AND THEY. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THEY GAVE WAS HAVING A CHURCH AND BUSINESS TOGETHER.

BECAUSE CHURCHES UTILIZE THEIR BUILDING MOSTLY ON THE WEEKENDS, NOT IN THE DAYTIME, WHICH MISS CALLOWAY, YOU ALSO SAID THAT THEY DON'T USE IT IN THE DAYTIME. THEY USE IT IN THE EVENING.

THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE WE GO TO CHURCH AFTER WORK ON SUNDAYS.

SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE NOT IN THE AIR AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE EXAMPLE THE TRAINERS GIVE ABOUT THE TREND GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

SO THIS FITS PERFECTLY IN WHAT WE WERE TRAINED TO DO, BECAUSE NOW BUSINESSES CAN USE THEIR PARKING LOT, BUSINESSES CAN POSSIBLY USE THE CHURCH IN THE DAYTIME FOR TRAINING OR WHATEVER. IT FITS PERFECTLY.

BASED ON THE NEW TREND THAT THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT WE ATTEND TO LEARN, RIGHT? THAT WAS THERE.

AND THE ZONING DOES CHANGE.

PEOPLE COME TO US TO ASK BECAUSE SOMETIME WE'RE NOT GOD LIKE, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE BRING.

SO ZONES DO CHANGE.

NO PROBLEM. DID I HAVE TIME LEFT OVER FROM MY FIVE MINUTES BEFORE? NO, THAT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

NICE TRY, NICE TRY.

BUT NO CIGARS ON THAT ONE.

NO. GO AHEAD. DING DONGS, DING DONGS.

ALL RIGHT.

THINGS ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, RELIANCE AND PRESUMPTIONS.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ON PRESUMPTIONS? YOU MAKE IT OUT OF YOU AND ME.

YOU GUYS MOVED IN KNOWING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE CITY AND RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE CITY WEREN'T DONE.

NOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT ABOUT A CHURCH VERSUS A CITY.

RULES AND REGULATIONS. I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE ALL WONDERFUL.

I KNOW YOU ARE.

KNOW YOUR PASTORS VERY WELL, KNOW WHERE YOU'VE BEEN RESIDING FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IN TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER.

YOU'VE KNOWN WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND NOW YOU WANT TO PLAY GUILT.

I COME FROM A RELIGIOUS FAITH, TOO.

I COME FROM A VERY ECLECTIC COMBINATION OF CULTURES OF ALL GUILT.

GUESS WHAT? I CAN'T LET YOU GUILT ME BECAUSE GUILT DOESN'T WORK IN THIS HOUSE, WHICH IS NOT A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.

THIS HOUSE IS A CITY OF TAMARAC.

THIS HOUSE IS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE ENTIRE CITY.

AND YOU CAN DO ALL YOUR GREAT STUFF IN ANOTHER LOCATION.

CONGRATULATIONS ON HAVING $125 MILLION.

IN ORDER TO BUY THIS PLACE WITH ANOTHER $300 MILLION LOAN.

EXCELLENT. VERY PROUD OF YOU.

BUT IT IS ACTUALLY TAKING $991,000 OFF THE TAX ROLLS.

AND WHILE YOU SAY IT'S ONLY ONE PERSON'S EMPLOYMENT, GUESS WHAT? IT GOES. NOW ONTO THE BACKS OF OUR 70,000 RESIDENTS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE HOUSES THAT WE NOW HAVE TO SAY, WE HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR TAXES BECAUSE WE NOW NEED IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SERVICES IN ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE ON OFF HOURS BECAUSE IT'S INDUSTRIAL, WE WILL NOW HAVE TO HAVE MORE SERVICES PROVIDED AND THAT WILL COST.

WHO IS IT GOING TO COST THE 70,000 RESIDENTS, RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS? WE GO ALL OVER THE PLACE AND IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU AS A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION.

I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT THE HUB HAS PROVIDED FOR YOU AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FOR YOU, BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM OF FINDING IT IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION IS WHAT WE ALL KNOW 11.9%.

WE WENT THROUGH YEARS OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH OUR PUBLIC, WITH OUR BUSINESSES, WITH OUR RESIDENTS, AND THAT IS HOW IT WAS ESTABLISHED TO COMMIT TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, THE BUSINESS PARK BEING WHAT IT IS, AND NOW WE JUST ARE GOING TO HAPHAZARDLY CHANGE IT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE VISION.

WE HAVE TO BE STRONG.

WELL, GUESS WHAT? IT TAKES STRENGTH TO ACTUALLY SAY NO TO YOU BECAUSE AGAIN, IT IS NOT NO TO YOU.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER CHURCH THAT WANTED TO OPEN UP IN OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK ON THE EAST.

THEY CAME, THEY ASKED THE CITY, THEY SAID, CAN WE DO IT? AND WE SAID, NO ONE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ZONED.

TWO YOU DON'T HAVE THE SPACE.

SO AFTER THIS WHOLE SITUATION, YOU'RE THEN GOING TO COME BACK TO US AND ASK US FOR A VARIANCE IN OUR SPACE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SPACE FOR WHAT WE

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HAVE FOR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.

WE HAVE 44 RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.

NOW WE'RE I'M HEARING WE'RE AT 34.

YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ALSO TRAVEL SOME OF OUR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ARE NOT IN OUR CITY.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HAS THEIR OWN CHURCH, NOT IN OUR CITY.

HE TRAVELS THERE.

WE HAVE JUST HEARD THAT ANOTHER ONE OF OUR PEOPLE ON THE DAIS HAS A DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS THAT THEY GO TO.

NOT IN OUR CITY.

WE ALL TRAVEL.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, MR. MARIN MORENO, YOU SAY THAT IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS, HAVE BEEN IN OUR CITY SINCE 2017, AND YOU ALL WANT TO QUANTIFY WHAT HAVE YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO THIS CITY? GOOD SPIRIT, GOOD RELATIONS.

FANTASTIC. BUT YOU WANTED TO QUANTIFY QUANTIFY THE RESTAURANTS THAT YOU ALL GO TO QUANTIFY HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT IN THE CITY, QUANTIFY HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE ACTUALLY HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE RECORD TO ACTUALLY HAVE YOU SAY IT, BUT USING THE SAME LOGIC YOU'RE USING TO US, THEY'RE VAPID WORDS.

DON'T GUILT US.

NOISE. PEOPLE ARE SAYING IT'S NO BIG DEAL ON NOISE.

I'VE HAD RESIDENTS COMPLAINING TO ME FROM DISTRICT THREE, WHICH IS THE NORTH SIDE OF MCNABB, COMPLAINING ABOUT SOME OF OUR, OUR INSTITUTIONS, OUR BUSINESS PARK, BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD AFTER HOURS PARTIES FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

GUESS WHAT? IF YOU'RE HAVING YOUR USE, YOU'LL BE HAVING AFTER HOURS FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES OR FOR YOUR PARTICIPANTS ATTENDEES.

IT'LL CAUSE ISSUE.

WE HAVE BEEN SAYING HOW WE WANT TO GROW FOR TECHNOLOGY AND BRING BIG BUSINESS.

ACTUALLY, IT WAS SAID BY SOME PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION AT OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THEM NOW, IF WE'RE NOT PUTTING A HOTEL IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN PUT INDUSTRIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF OTHER AREAS OF OUR CITY? WE HAVE NO CHOICE.

WE HAVE A MAP. WE ARE BUILT THE WAY WE ARE, AND UNLESS WE'RE KNOCKING DOWN OTHER PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING, WE CAN'T GROW THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIAL PARK.

BUT WE HAVE OTHER HOMES WHERE THE CHURCH CAN GO OR ANY RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION CAN GO.

AND SO IT IS DISTRESSFUL TO BE PUT IN THIS POSITION, QUITE HONESTLY.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WE HAVE THE BOSS PROGRAM YOU BUY, YOU GO THROUGH IT FIRST, YOU FIND OUT IF YOU CAN PUT YOUR BUSINESS IN THERE, AND THEN YOU PUT YOUR BUSINESS IN THERE.

IF YOU CAN, YOU DON'T PUT YOUR BUSINESS IN THERE.

OPERATE FOR A YEAR WITHOUT PERMISSION OR GOING AGAINST THE CITY'S RULES.

YOU'RE BASICALLY TELLING THE CITY OF TAMARAC, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR RULES.

IN ONE BREATH, YOU WANT TO TELL US HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT US, THE NEXT BREATH YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW US THAT YOU DON'T, AND NEXT BREATH YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US GUILT IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT. AND AGAIN, MAKING IT POLITICAL WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE.

I DON'T NEED YOU TO MAKE A COMMENT BACK TO WHAT I SAID.

THANK YOU. THIS IS NOT A SPARRING GAME OR A QUASI JUDICIAL.

IT IS. COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.

COMMISSIONER. BOLTON.

MRS. CALHOUN. COMMISSIONER.

HOW MANY READINGS DO WE HAVE ON THIS ITEM? JUST ONE. IT'S ON FIRST READING, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A CHANGE TO THE PERMITTED USE CHART, IT'S PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IT'D BE TWO READINGS.

IF THIS WERE TO PASS, THEN IT WOULD BE SCHEDULED FOR ADOPTION AT THE NEXT MEETING.

GOT IT. ALL RIGHT.

AND, MISS CALLOWAY, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOUR YOUR WORK HERE IS APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU. THAT YOU YOU TRY TO.

FIND COMMON GROUND.

YOU'RE VERY SMART.

AND YOU YOU'VE EXCELLED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

YOU'VE GROWN A LOT, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT MY COMMENTARY WITH FIGHTING FOR CHURCHES.

IS THAT YOU? YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG.

IT'S WE. WE CAN DISAGREE ON POLICY, BUT AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO TO DUTCH SPOTS STILL AND BUY SOME PEA SOUP.

OKAY, SO I APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU HAD TO SPEAK.

I'M JUST PUTTING IT BACK ON THE RECORD AGAIN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW HOW THE VOTE IS GOING TO GO.

IT IS NOT PERSONAL.

I THINK WHAT YOU DO IS GREAT.

I JUST DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO BE DOING SUCH GREATNESS IN THE PARTICULAR LOCATION WHERE IT IS.

YOU TALK ABOUT PROVEN TRACK RECORD AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE PROVEN TRACK RECORD TO WHY THE CITY OF TAMARAC SHOULD MAKE SUCH A BIG EXCEPTION, AND TO CHANGING OUR WHOLE TEXT

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AMENDMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO IT.

I WILL ALSO STAND CORRECTED ON MY MATH WHEN I RELOOKED AT THE MORTGAGE, YOU HAVE A $3,400,000 MORTGAGE AND YOUR PURCHASE PRICE WAS 4000 $250,000. THEREFORE, IT WAS A CASH DOWN OF $850,000.

SO MY APOLOGIES ON THE MATH FORMULA.

YOU SAID 400,000. 4 MILLION.

YEAH, I'M REALLY NOT GOOD WITH THOSE ZEROS.

4250 COMMA 000000.

SO YES, 4,250,000.

SO MY APOLOGIES ON ON THAT TALKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT AGAIN IT IS NOT ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION.

IT IS NOT A PERSONAL ITEM.

IT IS A CITY ITEM.

AND SITTING IN THE VILLAGE VISION OF WHAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC HAS BEEN TRYING TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD WITH OUR LAND USE CODE, OUR LAND USE TEXT AMENDMENTS, OUR MAP, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE IN OUR CITY FOR THEIR NEEDS.

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT AND WE DO THE BEST WE CAN.

AND SOMETIMES THE DIFFICULT DECISIONS ARE ALSO SAYING WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY TO THE COMMUNITY.

JUST ONE LAST COMMENT, MAYOR.

THAT IF IT SHALL PASS THAT THAT THIS COMMISSION MAY CONSIDER USES FOR THE FUTURE.

THAT'S ALL. I'M.

I'M DOING A POINT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE USES FOR THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT MEAN WE NEED TO NOT HAVE.

YOU CAN'T DO SPOT ZONING, WHICH IS WHAT THAT COULD WIND UP BEING IF THIS SHOULD SHOULD PASS AND WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED SPOT ZONING.

THE FACT THAT COMMUNITY CHRISTIAN CHURCH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2005, PRIOR TO ALL THIS, AND BEING THROWN INTO THIS WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE, THAT'S NOT SPOT ZONING.

SO WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT FOR WHATEVER YOU'RE ASKING THE CITY STAFF TO BE LOOKING INTO.

THE CITY CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER. BOLTON. YES.

COMMISSIONER. DANIEL. YES.

MAYOR. GOMEZ. NO.

COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT? YES.

THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1.

THANK YOU. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

THANK YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, GET HOME SAFELY OR WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY.

I KNOW WE HAVE ONE MORE. I WAS LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE WELCOME TO STAY OR LEAVE.

WHATEVER YOU WISH. YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

YOU MAY WANT TO GO HAVE LUNCH.

BUT IF YOU'RE STAYING, WE ARE GOING NOW TO OUR NUMBER EIGHT A, AND IT IS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER TR

[8.a Motion to Reconsider TR14083 Special Extended Hours Permit for La Taberna Nightclub TR14083 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, approving the special extended hours permit for La Taberna Nightclub located at 5303 North State Road 7, Tamarac, Florida, allowing alcohol sales and consumption on-premises only from 2:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays, in accordance with Section 3-4 of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]

483 SPECIAL EXTENDED HOURS PERMIT FOR TAMARANEAN NIGHTCLUB.

NOW, THIS IS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE ITEM TO BRING THE ITEM BACK.

CORRECT. CITY ATTORNEY? YES, MAYOR.

IT IS NOT THE ACTUAL ITEM TO DISCUSS.

IT HAS NOT BEEN CORRECT.

THAT'S THE PROCESS. IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT COMES BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IF IT IS APPROVED, WELL, THE COMMISSION CAN DISCUSS IT NOW AS WINNING THE COMMISSION DISCRETION.

ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT MADE THINGS NICE AND ORGANIZED AND ALWAYS FOR MOTIONS FOR RECONSIDERATION.

THE RECONSIDERATION OCCURRED AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING FOLLOWED THE ACTUAL ITEM.

SO IT'S IT'S IT'S WITHIN THIS COMMISSION'S DISCRETION IF THEY WANT TO DISCUSS IT.

NOW, IF THE MOTION LET'S JUST FIRST OF ALL, IF THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION IS PASSED, THEN IT IS THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION TO DISCUSS IT.

NOW, IF THEY WANT TO DISCUSS IT AT ANOTHER THE THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, IT IS NOT PROPER NOTICE FOR PEOPLE IF WE.