Jan 24, 2024 Regular

OH, WHAT A HAPPY DAY.

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HAPPY NEW YEAR AGAIN.

WE ARE FINISHING OFF JANUARY IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES OR PUT THEM ON VIBRATE.

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IT IS 931.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR.

MAYOR GOMEZ. GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

GOOD MORNING, VICE MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR WRIGHT. GOOD MORNING.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. COMMISSIONER DANIEL.

GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NOW, IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND, VICE MAYOR MAUREEN WRIGHT JUNIOR WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND WE WILL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE THEREAFTER.

JUST GOTTA LET ME KNOW. ALL RIGHT, CITY ATTORNEY, YOUR REPORT, PLEASE.

[1. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT]

I KNOW WE'RE NOT A PARTY, BUT JUST WANT TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT THE ASSOCIATION HAS FILED A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT, ESSENTIALLY SEEKING TO DISMISS THE CASE. THEY ARGUE, AND THEY MOTION THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT, TO SELL THE PROPERTY WITHOUT UNIT OWNERS APPROVAL.

AND EVEN IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEY ARGUE THAT THEY HAVE THE MAJORITY OF UNIT OWNER APPROVAL TO SELL THE PROPERTY.

THAT MOTION IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 10TH, 2024, TO BE HEARD BY THE JUDGE.

UNDER THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, THE PLAINTIFF HAVE A RIGHT TO RESPONSE, AND THEY WILL PROBABLY FILE A RESPONSE BEFORE THE HEARING.

I REVIEW THE DOCKET.

I DIDN'T SEE A RESPONSE FROM THE PLAINTIFF YET.

THANK YOU. AND, IT STILL DOESN'T ERASE THE OTHER LEAN ISSUE ITEMS ON TITLE, BUT I GUESS THAT'LL BE FOR A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.

AM I ALLOWED TO ASK A QUESTION? YES. CITY ATTORNEY, JUST QUICKLY.

SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE PROPERTY IS AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE TO BUY OR IS AN EXCLUSIVE PURCHASE AGREEMENT? CONSIDERING THAT THEY ARE SAYING THEY DO HAVE THE VOTES AND THAT THEY CAN.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT IS, FAIR OR UNFAIR? IF THEY ONLY SEEK ONE.

BUYER MIGHT CLEAR.

WELL, JUST OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC BEFORE TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE'S A PENDING CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND SHAKER VILLAGE. THAT CONTRACT IS VALID.

SO, THERE'S THEREFORE NO ONE ELSE CAN.

THEY CAN THEY CANNOT SELL TO ANYONE ELSE AT THIS POINT.

THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT.

OKAY. TO TO BACK UP THE CITY ATTORNEY'S COMMENT.

THEY HAVE A PENDING CONTRACT.

THEY PUT THE CONTRACT OUT TO VOTE BASED ON THE CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE.

SO THEY PROBABLY DO HAVE SOME KIND OF OBLIGATION.

THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE CONTRACT THAT'S CURRENTLY PENDING, BUT THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THEIR RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY SAID BASED ON THIS CONTRACT, WOULD YOU VOTE ON IT? THE PROBLEM IS WHETHER THE VOTE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN BEFORE CONTRACTING, WHICH IS WHAT THE STATE REQUIREMENT IS, AND THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS STATE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL ALSO FIGHT OUT IN THE LAWSUIT.

SO WOULDN'T THEN A PRICE BE AT THE BEST AND HIGHEST OFFER AND NOT EXCLUSIVELY TO ONE PARTY? BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT ANYBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN A BIT HIGHER THAN THAT.

I THINK THAT IN IF IT WAS DONE PRIOR TO VOTING, PRIOR TO CONTRACTING, AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PER STATUTE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN THAT WAY. BUT WHATEVER PAPERWORK THE ASSOCIATION PUT OUT, PUT IT OUT BASED ON THE CURRENT PENDING CONTRACT.

SO THAT'S AN ARGUMENT IN THE ASSOCIATION TO ARGUE VERSUS US.

ALL RIGHT. AND LASTLY, JUST ONE FOR THE RECORD TO REFLECT, THAT DID SPEAK TO THE HOA PRESIDENT.

I REACHED OUT SEVERAL TIMES TO HER TO TO TALK TO US, SPECIFICALLY TO ME.

SHE DID SAY SHE WAS GOING TO REACH OUT AND COME VISIT ME THIS WEEK.

I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK THEN I WAS TOLD THE PROPERTY MANAGER WAS GOING TO COME AND SPEAK TO ME REGARDING THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD, AND THE ALLEGATIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING SUPPOSEDLY IN LINE ABOUT, JUST I WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO REACH OUT TO THEM.

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THANK YOU. SEE YOUR ATTORNEYS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WISH TO.

THE ANSWER IS NO, IT'S FINE.

I'M NOT. JUST BEFORE I GO ON TO CITY MANAGER.

CITY MANAGER REPORT.

[2. CITY MANAGER REPORT]

WE HAVE MORGAN FLYNN, WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WHO WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION TO CHIEF FIRE CHIEF FINISH.I AND THE DIVISION CHIEF, TAMMY DIMOPOULOS.

OKAY. GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY, AND THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE.

MAYOR, I'LL WAIT FOR EVERYBODY TO COME BY.

GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

HOW ARE YOU? HI. COME ON.

DON'T TAKE A PICTURE. OKAY.

SO, GOOD MORNING.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION, CITY MANAGER, TAMARAC STAFF AND PERSONNEL AND TAMARAC RESIDENTS.

MY NAME IS MORGAN FLYNN, AND I OVERSEE THE DROWNING PREVENTION AND WATER SAFETY PROGRAM AT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN BROWARD COUNTY.

SO IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, THE CITY OF TAMARAC WAS DESIGNATED TO RECEIVE THE BRONZE DESIGNATION OF THE WATER SMART COMMUNITIES INITIATIVE.

AND SO WE COMMEMORATED THE CITY FOR THOSE EFFORTS THAT YOU HAVE MADE TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND WATER SAFETY AND DROWNING PREVENTION INFORMATION TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND GUESTS WHO VISIT THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, SO NOW WE'RE HERE AGAIN TO, HONOR YOU AGAIN FOR ANOTHER, DESIGNATION, BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND YOUR EFFORTS, WITH WHICH IS A PHENOMENAL ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR YOUR CITY.

AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED.

AND SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE STRIDES MADE TO MOVE UP IN THE RANKS FOR THIS PROGRAM SINCE THE LAST DESIGNATION.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK RITA, WILL YOU COME UP AND HOLD THIS, THE PLAQUE WHILE I GO OVER THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY WAS ABLE TO, TO MAKE? AND SO I JUST HAVE THE CHECKLIST HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GET ALL OF THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

SO IN SEPTEMBER WE ISSUED THE BRONZE DESIGNATION.

AND THESE WERE THE THINGS THAT THE CITY WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO OVER, THE STRIDES THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SINCE SEPTEMBER IN JUST A FEW MONTHS TIME.

SO AT THE BRONZE DESIGNATION, TIMING, THE CITY WAS ABLE TO INCLUDE DROWNING PREVENTION EDUCATION AND MUNICIPAL SPONSORED EVENTS.

PROVIDE, DROWNING PREVENTION EDUCATION DURING MUNICIPALITY CAR SEAT INSTALLATIONS, USING THE WATERSMART BROWARD LOGO AND MUNICIPAL COMMUNICATIONS SUCH AS UTILITY BILLS, NEWSLETTERS, STUFF LIKE THAT, AND JUST SHOWING THEIR SUPPORT FOR DROWNING PREVENTION AND WATER SAFETY AS A MUNICIPALITY.

THEY WERE ABLE TO PLAY THE WATER.

SMART SAW THAT THE THAT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HAS PUT OUT TO PROMOTE WATER SAFETY.

THERE WAS A HOME SAFETY SEGMENT THAT WE DID, AND THERE WAS ALSO A SWIM LESSON PROMOTION SEGMENT.

AND SO THE CITY WAS ABLE TO PROMOTE THOSE THROUGH THEIR PARKS AND REC AND FIRE RESCUE AND OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY.

THEY HELPED ENGAGE IN MULTI-UNIT HOUSING COMPLEXES BY HANGING UP POOL SIGNS AND BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE COMPLEX MANAGERS ABOUT DROWNING PREVENTION AND WATER SAFETY EFFORTS FOR THEIR RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES.

THEY HAVE HELPED, HAVE INFORMATION AVAILABLE, AT A SPECIFIC MUNICIPAL EVENTS FOR RESIDENTS AND GUESTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR CHILDREN TO SIGN UP FOR SWIM LESSON COUPONS IN THE COUNTY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR, AT THE EVENTS.

AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, UP TO DATE, REQUIREMENTS FOR SWIMMING POOLS, IN THEIR BUILDING DEPARTMENT OFFICES AND THEN THEIR, AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE DROWNING PREVENTION TASK FORCE.

SO THAT WAS ALL OF THE BRONZE, DESIGNATION REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY DID BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

AND NOW WE'VE LEVELED UP TO THE SILVER DESIGNATION.

WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER EVERYTHING IN THE SILVER TIER REQUIREMENTS.

SO EVERYTHING IN THE SILVER TIER NOW, THEY WERE ABLE TO LINK THE MUNICIPAL WATER SMART BROWARD WEBSITE TO, TO CITY PAGES SUCH

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TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO THERE AND TO REQUEST THE SWIM COUPON AND DROWNING PREVENTION INFORMATION, FOR THEIR HOME.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ASSISTED IN EDUCATING LOCAL MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ON WATER SAFETY AND DROWNING PREVENTION BY BEING ABLE TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO YOUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, HOW TO ESCAPE FROM A SINKING VEHICLE, STUFF LIKE HOW TO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING UP THE, THE LIFE RINGS AT YOUR, IT'S YOUR BODIES OF WATER ALL AROUND THE CITY AND HELPING EDUCATE THE STUDENTS HOW TO USE THOSE, STUFF LIKE THAT WAS REALLY MAKING GREAT STRIDES TO TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE BEING ABLE TO PROMOTE WATER SAFETY AT ALL.

YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AGE GROUPS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR YOUTH, OFFERING CPR CLASSES FOR MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES AT NO COST.

AND THEN BEING ABLE TO DO THE SAME FOR YOUR RESIDENTS AS WELL, BEING ABLE TO OFFER CPR FOR RESIDENTS, WHICH IS CRUCIAL.

AND THEN AS WELL AS OFFERING A PARENT AND CHILD SWIM LESSONS FOR AS YOUNG AS SIX MONTHS OLD.

SO THAT WAS A GREAT STRIDE.

WE SEE WE DO SEE A LOT OF DROWNINGS, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND EVEN AROUND THE COUNTRY.

SO, YOU KNOW, 0 TO 5 IS THE AGE RANGE THAT WE REALLY TRY TO GET CHILDREN INVOLVED IN SWIMMING LESSONS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WE COMMEMORATE THE CITY OF TAMARAC FOR BEING ABLE TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AT THEIR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES.

THEY ALSO ACCEPT THE BROWARD COUNTY SWIM COUPON AT MUNICIPAL LOCATIONS.

SO THE COUPON THAT YOU GO ONLINE, YOU GO TO WATERSMART BROWARD.

ORG. THEY WOULD APPLY FOR THAT COUPON FOR CHILDREN AGES SIX MONTHS TO EIGHT YEARS OLD.

THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND THEY YOU GET THE COUPON, THEY CAN GO IN THE MAIL OR IT COMES TO THEM IN THE MAIL, SORRY.

AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO GO AND THEN REDEEM THAT COUPON AT, MUNICIPAL POOLS.

SO THAT IS EVERYTHING IN THE SILVER TIER THAT ALL OF THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAVE BEEN AND STRIDES HAVE BEEN WORKED TOWARDS SINCE SEPTEMBER.

AND SO WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE UP TO THE NEXT TIER UP, WHICH WOULD BE THE GOLD TIER.

THE GOLD TIER HAVE, IS BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE GROUP SWIM LESSONS AT MUNICIPAL FACILITIES YEAR ROUND AND THEN PROMOTING SWIM CENTRAL, WHICH IS THE COUNTY'S, SWIM LESSON PROGRAM.

THEY PARTNER WITH BROWARD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO GO AND OFFER SWIM LESSONS TO CHILDREN.

WHAT THEY OFFER IS TEN FREE 30 MINUTE CLASSES OVER A TWO WEEK PERIOD, AND FOR CHILDREN AGES 5 TO 16 YEARS OLD.

SO THAT HAS BEEN CRUCIAL.

AND HELPING CHILDREN CONTINUE TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM OUTSIDE OF THE SWIM COUPON REQUIREMENT AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU TO THE CITY AND ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS, YOUR STAFF AND ALL THE STRIDES THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.

ESPECIALLY, I KNOW FIRE RESCUE AND PARKS AND RECREATION HAVE DONE A LOT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE GOLD WATER, WATER SMART COMMUNITIES DESIGNATION PLOT TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

YES. PERSONAL.

YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

I'M GOING TO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MADAM. MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSION.

AND THANK YOU, MORGAN, FOR EDUCATING THE RESIDENTS AND OUR FELLOW CITY EMPLOYEES ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC TO PROMOTE WATER SAFETY AND UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A WATER SAFE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD.

COME ON MAN. COME ON MAN.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A FIVE MINUTE DISSERTATION.

YES. WELL, I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT'S A TEAM EFFORT.

THANK YOU TO THE PARKS, FOLKS.

THANK YOU TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

WE CAN'T DO THESE THINGS AND KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE WITHOUT THESE PARTNERSHIPS.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO.

THANK YOU. AND I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER MYSELF AND VERY PROUD OF OUR WHOLE CITY TEAM.

AND ACTUALLY, YOU'RE DOING THIS ON A WONDERFUL DAY BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THE BEST PART OF OUR CITY, NEXT TO OUR RESIDENTS, OF COURSE, AND BUSINESSES. BUT YOU'RE ALL WONDERFUL.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU. AND WE SHOULD BE SO PROUD.

WE'VE JUMPED TO SINCE SEPTEMBER, RIGHT? WE WENT FROM BRONZE TO GOLD.

HOW DO WE GET TO PLATINUM? PLATINUM? OH, WE HAVE TO MAKE A NEW TIER.

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WE'LL GET IT DONE IN A FEW MONTHS, AS SOON AS YOU GET IT DONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU. OH.

THANK YOU. I THOUGHT WE JUST THOUGHT ONE WAS BRONZE FROM WHAT I.

HEAR YOU. THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL.

AND IT IS NOW MY PLEASURE TO HAND OVER THE MIC TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHO WILL ASSIST US.

SORRY. CITY MANAGER.

IT'S MONDAY MORNING, EVERYBODY.

NO PROBLEM. GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE, A GREAT PART OF THE COMMISSION MEETING.

WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE OUR EMPLOYEES IMPORTANT MILESTONES IN THEIR CAREERS.

SPEAK UP. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME THAT, SO, FIVE YEARS, IF WE CAN MOVE ON, JIM.

OUR OWN LORI FUNDERWHITE, FIVE YEARS.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.

THANK YOU. LORI.

NISSAN BRISCOE, UTILITY BILLING REPRESENTATIVE IN FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

FIVE YEARS.

SORRY. THANK YOU.

SONYA. MICHAEL SMIGIELSKI, GROUNDSKEEPER.

TEN YEARS.

HE'S NOT HERE. OKAY.

RONNIE WILL TAKE THE PRIZE AND SHARE IT.

THANK YOU. RODNEY. AND ORLANDO TORRES, 15 YEARS.

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN IN ORLANDO? 15 YEARS. THANK YOU.

BRIAN DE DRIVER, ENGINEER, PARAMEDIC, 15 YEARS.

HE'S NOT HERE TODAY, BUT CHIEF WILL ACCEPT ON ON HIS BEHALF.

AND, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, CHIEF, WILLIAM OJEDA, HE'S ALSO HERE 15 YEARS.

LIEUTENANT. PARAMEDIC.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

AND THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE DAY 25 YEARS RAPHAEL GROSS.

RAFAEL. CONGRATULATIONS.

NO NO NO. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THAT CONCLUDES TODAY'S RECOGNITIONS.

BUT MORE TO COME.

OKAY, I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO MEET OUTSIDE FOR PHOTOS.

THANK YOU ALL.

WE CAN GO BACK THERE.

WE LOVE HAVING YOU, BUT WE THINK YOU HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO. YOU'RE GOING TO GO. NO.

I GOT.

I. OKAY.

ORLANDO. ALL RIGHT.

ACTUALLY.

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YOU NEED TO GO. AND GET THESE.

THREE.

SO FOR ANYONE WONDERING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE BECOME VERY LONELY ON THESE MEETINGS WHEN OUR WONDERFUL EMPLOYEES LEAVE US AND WE'RE HAPPY.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE STAYED, WE THANK YOU.

BUT JUST THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE TIME SO EVERYONE CAN GO ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS FOR THE DAY.

AND WE ARE NOW UP TO CONSENT AGENDA.

NO, NO, I APOLOGIZE, I'M JUST FLIPPING PAGES HERE THINKING.

SO WE ARE UP TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

[3. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION]

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

GOOD MORNING. FOR THE PAST YEARS, CITY OF TAMARAC HAS BEEN DEVELOPING A MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN CALLED MOVE TAMARAC.

THIS INITIATIVE IS FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING STRATEGIES AND IDEAS FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO FOSTER AN ACCESSIBLE AND SAFE COMMUNITY WITH MULTIMODAL CONNECTIONS BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS, SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES, KEY DESTINATIONS, AND NATURAL SURROUNDINGS.

IN 2023, THE CITY CONDUCTED INTERVIEWS AND ONLINE SURVEY AND HOSTED A COMMUNITY MEETING TO SHARE INITIAL IDEAS FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS, THE PROJECT TEAM HAS BEEN GATHERING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND ANALYZING TRANSPORTATION DATA TO CREATE A VISION, GOALS, AND PROJECT IDEAS TO MAKE IT SAFER AND MORE COMFORTABLE TO MOVE AROUND.

TAMARAC ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 8TH FROM 630 TO 8 P.M.

AT THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER.

IT'S LOCATED AT THAT ADDRESS.

CITY WILL HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING TO SHARE PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS AND COLLECT ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY VISIT THE PROJECT WEBSITE.

MOVE TAMARAC.COM FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.

WE HAVE SOME EXCITING EVENTS COMING UP.

THE ROCK AND RIDE CONCERT AND CAR SHOW IS BEING HELD THIS SATURDAY, JANUARY 27TH, 3 P.M.

TO 6 P.M.

AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.

THIS EVENT FEATURES A CAR SHOW, A CONCERT, AS WELL AS FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY WITH FOOD TRUCKS AND INFLATABLES FOR THE KIDS.

WE ALSO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO JOIN US AS WE CELEBRATE TAMARAC'S MANY FACES AND VOICES AT THE FREE ONE TAMARAC MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL FEATURING ENTERTAINMENT, CULTURAL PERFORMANCES, EXHIBITS, FOOD TRUCKS, A CHILDREN'S FUN ZONE AND A LASER SHOW FINALE.

ONE TAMARAC WILL BE HELD AT THE TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 10TH FROM 4 TO 7:30 P.M.

ON SITE PARKING WILL BE LIMITED, SO PLEASE USE THE FREE SHUTTLE SERVICE FROM MULTIPLE LOCATIONS TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX.

THIS IS AN EXCITING EVENT.

WE'RE ENCOURAGING AND EXPECTING ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS TO COME JOIN US TO CELEBRATE THE CITY'S DIVERSITY AND, MULTICULTURAL THAT EXIST.

THAT MAKES TAMARAC A GREAT PLACE.

AND, TAMARAC UNIVERSITY, THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO APPLY FOR TAMARAC UNIVERSITY FOR THIS, SESSION.

IF YOU WANT TO GET A BEHIND THE SCENES LOOK AT YOUR CITY AND HOW IT OPERATES.

TAMARAC UNIVERSITY AND EIGHT WEEK INTERACTIVE PROGRAM HELD SPRING OF EACH YEAR, IS FOR YOU TO PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT CITY FACILITIES AND LEARN FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS, DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS AND OTHER CITY STAFF ABOUT THE ROLE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC SERVICE.

IT SERVES AS A TRAINING GROUND FOR VOLUNTEERS AND PROVIDES NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES FOR CIVIC MINDED RESIDENTS.

APPLICATIONS WILL BE ACCEPTED THROUGH THIS FRIDAY, JANUARY 26TH, 2024 5:00 PM.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, FIRE RESCUE.

I WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR FIRE RESCUE ALS COMPETITION TEAM AGAIN.

THEY HAVE RECEIVED THE TWO 2023 FLORIDA CUP TROPHY WITH A FIRST PLACE FINISH AT THE NATIONAL AT THE FLORIDA FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT CHALLENGE.

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CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO THE TEAM, AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU WITH MORE AWARDS IN 2024.

AND THEY ALREADY STARTED COMPETING FOR 2024 SEASON.

AND WE WISH THEM ALL THE BEST.

AND, WE WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.

AND, THANK YOU.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

THANK YOU. SO VERY PROUD.

WE ARE NOW GOING TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

AND THE RULES OF THE ROAD ARE GOING ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

HIGHLIGHTS. WE DON'T BOO, WE DON'T JEER.

WE KEEP OUR COMMENTS HAPPY OR SAD.

EXCEPT OF COURSE, WHEN WE'RE ANNOUNCING WONDERFUL THINGS THAT THE CITY RECEIVES, THAT'S ALWAYS GREAT.

THREE MINUTES YOU CAN'T SHARE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE MIC.

PLEASE, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOUR FULL ADDRESS, JUST YOUR COUNTY OR YOUR CITY.

JEFFREY SHAPIRO AND PATTI LYNN IS ON DECK.

AND THESE ARE FOR ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA OR ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.

JEFFREY SHAPIRO.

WOODLANDS COMMUNITY.

I'M HERE TODAY FOR, TWO REASONS.

TWO THINGS THAT REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE, THIS PAST WEEK.

ONE THING, THE FIRST THING BEING NEXT DOOR AND SHAKER VILLAGE AND THE PRESIDENT OF THAT ASSOCIATION GOING ON NEXT DOOR SOLICITING FOR FEEDBACK, I WOULD CALL IT FEEDBACK FROM OTHER PEOPLE CONCERNING THEIR SITUATIONS, WHICH IS MORE THAN ONE IN THAT COMMUNITY.

AND I WAS VERY DISPLEASED ABOUT NUMEROUS THINGS.

I WAS READING THE POST FROM THE PRESIDENT, THE POST FROM OTHER CONDO AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE LOCATED VERY CLOSE TO THAT AREA, AND THE COMMENTS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES WITHIN TAMARAC CONDOS AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT SHOWED THEIR DISAPPROVAL OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

IT IS CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY TRYING TO PORTRAY THE CITY IN A BAD LIGHT, AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANY FUTURE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE CITY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE TAKING A STANCE OF, THAT THEY'RE OWED THIS. YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY UNFORTUNATELY SUSTAINED SOME VERY BAD THINGS 15, 20 YEARS AGO TO WHICH THE CURRENT BOARD HAD NO CONTROL OVER.

BUT NOW, TO KEEP IT PUSHING CONSISTENT AGAINST THE CITY TRYING TO FORCE A LAND SALE WITH THE CITY AND THEN 13TH FLOOR, HAVING TO THROW INTO THE MIX $750,000 UP IN THE AIR, SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THIS MONEY TO THE COMMUNITY TO HELP THEM.

AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING.

IF THE CITY WINDS UP GOING THROUGH WITH THE PURCHASE OF THIS, WATCH OUT, THEY'RE GOING TO COME AFTER THE OTHER 715TH OF $750,000.

THAT'S WHAT WAS ALSO ENTITLED, BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY THIS THESE THINGS READ OUT ON NEXT DOOR.

AND I DIDN'T PUT MY OWN COMMENTS BECAUSE I FELT I'M JUST GOING TO BE AS A REGULAR CITIZEN OF MY, OF TAMARAC AND OF MY COMMUNITY AND JUST SUPPOSED TO STATE THIS.

OKAY, OFF THAT SUBJECT.

OKAY. THERE WAS ILLEGAL TRASH DUMPING THE END OF LAST WEEK.

I'M HOPING EVERYBODY ON UP HERE IS AWARE OF THAT.

AND WHAT TOOK PLACE WAS AN UNMARKED TRUCK WENT DOWN ONE OF TAMARAC CITY STREETS.

OKAY. AND ILLEGALLY DUMPED WAS A DUMP TRUCK, ALL KINDS OF DEBRIS.

IT WAS IN THE NEWS YESTERDAY AND IT WAS REPORTED TO THE POLICE.

AND THE POLICE, TOLD THE NEWS MEDIA THAT THEY, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. I'M LOOKING AT FACES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN TALK TO THE CAPTAIN AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.

PATTY LYNN IS UP NEXT AND KATE JOHNSON IS ON DECK.

GOOD MORNING, PATTY LIN.

MAINLAND'S EIGHT TAMARAC.

WE'VE HAD A BUSY MONTH WHERE WE'RE I LIVE.

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THEY SHOULD. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO PEOPLE SAY WHAT A GOOD JOB THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE THEY ARE, EVERY ONE OF THEM.

THESE GUYS WHO WERE OUT HERE ON THE STREET CLEANING STREETS, THEY'RE POLITE, THEY'RE NICE.

ANYTHING THAT YOU ASK THEM, THEY'LL ANSWER.

AND IT'S NICE.

IT'S NICE THAT THEY'RE ALL FRIENDLY AND WORK TOGETHER.

I LIKE THAT, I KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING NOW ON PARKING IN THE STREET.

IT'S ABOUT TIME.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO PARK IN THE STREET ON 57TH COURT, JUST TO THE WEST OF 64TH AVENUE.

THAT CREATE A REAL TRAFFIC HAZARD.

I DID SPEAK TO THE, CREW THAT'S DOING THE ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY THEY CHECK THAT OUT, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S LOOKING TO BE A HEAD ON ACCIDENT PRETTY SOON. I WISH YOU'D CHANGE IT TO 11 P.M., BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TRAFFIC PEOPLE COMING HOME FROM CLUBS AND THINGS, AND IT'S IT'S KIND OF DANGEROUS.

I'M GLAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PRACTICING FOR THEIR NEXT TOURNAMENT.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO AS MANY PANCAKE BREAKFASTS AS I CAN ATTEND BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY NEAT.

AND SHAKER VILLAGE.

IT'S. IT'S OUT OF THE PUBLIC'S HANDS.

JUST LET THE ATTORNEYS FIGHT IT OUT.

WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS.

I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I STILL THINK MY OPINION IS RIGHT.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO OFFER IT ANYWAY.

YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL REST OF THE MONTH.

AND LOOKING FORWARD TO VALENTINE'S DAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I HAVE KATE JOHNSON IS THE ONLY OTHER PERSON SIGNED UP.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK THAT DID NOT SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION? NO. SEEING NONE, THEN PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE CLOSED AFTER KATE JOHNSON KATE JOHNSON MAINLANDS FOR GOOD MORNING.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I WROTE TO YOU BOTH NOVEMBER 25TH, ABOUT THE HEDGES BETWEEN AND TREES BETWEEN MAINLAND'S FOREIGN HIDDEN TRAILS.

HIDDEN TRAILS OWNS THEM, BUT HAS NOT MAINTAINED THEM THIS YEAR.

AND THEY WERE OUT OF CONTROL, CREATING DANGEROUS AMBUSH POINTS THAT MIGHT ENDANGER THE WELFARE OF OUR RESIDENTS.

SCOTT KRAJOWSKI RETURNED MY EMAIL IMMEDIATELY ON A SUNDAY.

THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE.

WHILE CODE ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATED AND SAID THEY COULD DO NOTHING, I BELIEVE IT WAS DANE HINKLE WHO STILL EMAILED HIDDEN TRAILS MANAGEMENT COMPANY REQUESTING THEY TRIM THE HEDGES AND TREES.

THEY DID NOT.

SO I WROTE TO MAYOR GOMEZ AGAIN AT THE END OF DECEMBER.

THIS WEEK THEY TRIMMED THE HEDGES.

THEY LOOK GREAT AND OUR RESIDENTS FEEL MORE SAFE AND SECURE.

SO HOWEVER IT WAS FINALLY ACCOMPLISHED.

WE THANK THE CITY STAFF FOR HELPING NOW TO GET THE TREES TRIMMED.

THAT'S NEXT.

NEXT MAINLANDS FOR INSURANCE RATES ON OUR COMMON AREA ARE ASTRONOMICAL, AS ARE THOSE OF MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES.

WE WENT FROM $36,000 IN 2022 TO $72,000 IN 2023.

WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO LOWER OUR RATES AND HAVE PUT IN SECURITY CAMERAS IN AND AROUND THE CLUBHOUSE AND COMMON AREA, HOPING THAT THAT WILL HELP.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE OUT THE WINDOWS TO HURRICANE WINDOWS IN HOPES THIS MAY ALSO LOWER OUR COST.

IN ADDITION TO THE EFFICIENCY OF HAVING MORE SECURE WINDOWS, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO APPLY FOR SOME OF THE $925,000 SET ASIDE MONEY FROM THE WOODLANDS DEVELOPERS.

I BELIEVE ALL COMMUNITIES THAT ENTER AND EXIT OFF COMMERCIAL WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE INCREASED TRAFFIC DUE TO THE WOODLANDS PROJECT, AND SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE FUNDS TO OFFSET THE INCONVENIENCE.

CERTAINLY, WE WOULD BE MORE AFFECTED THAN A COMMUNITY BY THE LIBRARY.

I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO PLEASE COME UP WITH A PLAN TO DISTRIBUTE THAT MONEY IN AN EQUITABLE FASHION AND DEVELOP A WAY FOR COMMUNITIES IN NEED, SUCH AS OURS, TO APPLY.

LASTLY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOLTON FOR MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS OF MAINLANDS ONE THROUGH FIVE.

I LISTENED INTENTLY TO YOUR COMMENTS AND I'M GLAD YOU ARE RECONSIDERING YOUR POSITION ON STREET PARKING.

YOU ALSO SAID AT THAT MEETING, QUOTE, LEADERSHIP SHOULD NOT ARBITRARILY MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT INPUT.

END QUOTE. THE INPUT IS FROM THE CONSTITUENTS, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.

PLEASE CONSIDER THAT HUNDREDS OF CONSTITUENTS CAME FORWARD TO OPPOSE SHAKER VILLAGE, WHILE ONLY A FEW DOZEN CAME IN SUPPORT OF IT.

AFTER ALL, WE ARE ONE TAMARAC.

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THANK YOU. AS PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

I AM NOT SEEING ANYBODY WISHING TO PULL AN ITEM.

THEREFORE, I WILL ASK FOR A SECOND TO MY MOTION.

SECOND. I'VE GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER. VILLALOBOS.

YES. MAYOR.

GOMEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER.

BOLTON. YES.

COMMISSIONER. DANIEL? YES.

VICE MAYOR. RIGHT. YES.

THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 0.

THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ORDINANCES.

[6.a TO2545 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida establishing the Woodlands Section 9 Community Development District; making certain findings regarding the district; describing the external boundaries of the district; naming five persons designated to be the initial members of the board of supervisors; providing for severability; providing for conflicts; and providing an effective date.]

PLEASE READ THE TITLE INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM SIX A IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

CITY OF TAMARAC ESTABLISHING THE WOODLAND SECTION NINE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS REGARDING THE DISTRICT.

DESCRIBING THE EXTERNAL BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT, NAMELY FIVE PERSONS DESIGNATED TO BE THE INITIAL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.

SO MOVED. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, JUST FOR HEADS UP, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, AND THEREFORE THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE WILL NOW HAVE GINGER WALD, ATTORNEY, WHO IS THE AGENT FOR THE PETITIONER, MAKING A PRESENTATION.

SORRY ABOUT YOUR SHOULDER OR YOUR ARM OR WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT GOING ON THERE.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

GINGER WALD WITH BILL AND COCHRAN.

LYLES, WARREN RAMSEY, FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA.

I HAVE A POWERPOINT THAT I THINK WILL BE COMING UP A QUICK ONE.

NOTHING TOO TOO HORRIBLE.

THAT'S PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE TODAY.

AS WAS STATED BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS FIRST READING ONLY OF THE ORDINANCE IF THIS ALL GOES WELL TODAY.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH THAT. PERFECT.

APPRECIATE IT. THERE WILL BE A SECOND READING IN FEBRUARY, WHICH DOES REQUIRE FOUR WEEKS OF CONSECUTIVE ADVERTISEMENT IN THE SUN SENTINEL, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY PREPARED. THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO APPEAR AND TO PROVIDE ANY TESTIMONY THEY WANT TO AT THAT TIME OR COMMENT.

SO HERE WE GO. WHAT IS THE CD? SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR ALREADY A LITTLE LOUDER, ALREADY KNOW WHAT A CD IS.

BUT FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE TODAY, WE'VE PROVIDED THIS SMALL POWERPOINT TO PROVIDE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION.

A CD IS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.

MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE BASICALLY A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, BUT THEY'RE NOT.

A CD IS REQUIRED TO FOLLOW FLORIDA LAW SIMILAR TO WHAT A CITY DOES IN THIS INSTANCE.

THE CD'S HAVE THE POWER TO FINANCE, FUND, PLAN, ESTABLISH, ACQUIRE, CONSTRUCT, RECONSTRUCT, ENLARGE, EXTEND, EQUIP, OPERATE AND MAINTAIN SYSTEMS AND BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PUBLIC ROADWAYS, STREETLIGHTS, WATER AND SEWER FACILITIES, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING, CERTAIN PUBLIC AMENITIES, PUBLIC FACILITIES, AND SECURITY.

THAT ALL COMES DIRECTLY FROM FLORIDA STATUTES CHAPTER 190, WHICH IS THE CHARTER OF ANY CD.

WHAT CAN CD'S DO? AGAIN, THIS SOMETIMES IS A MISCONCEPTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE.

CD'S HAVE THE POWER TO FINANCE, CONSTRUCT, ACQUIRE AND MAINTAIN CERTAIN ELIGIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND COSTS.

THEY CAN ISSUE TAX EXEMPT MUNICIPAL BONDS.

THEY CAN LEVY, COLLECT AND ENFORCE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS FOR THE DEBT SERVICE ON THOSE BONDS AND FOR CONTINUING ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THOSE PUBLIC FACILITIES.

THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLACE A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT TO SECURE THOSE BONDS FOR THE ISSUANCE THEREOF, AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS FOR CERTAIN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND MAINTENANCE SERVICES.

WHAT THEY CANNOT DO, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT A CITY, THEY DO NOT HAVE HOME RULE POWER.

THEY DO NOT REGULATE LAND USE.

THAT IS COMPLETELY FOR THE CITY TO DETERMINE OR THE COUNTY.

THEY DON'T INVOLVE THEMSELVES WITH ZONING.

THEY CAN'T CHANGE ANY ZONING WITHIN THE DISTRICT ITSELF.

THEY DON'T ISSUE A DEVELOPMENT ORDERS THAT IS COMPLETELY WITHIN THE REALM OF THE CITY, AND THEY DO NOT PROVIDE ANY POLICE OR FIRE SERVICES.

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WELL, YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AS PART OF YOUR AGENDA.

BACK UP THE PETITION.

THE PETITION HAS SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT IS REQUIRED BY CHAPTER 190 AND THIS IS PROVIDED THERE TO.

HOW ARE CCDS GOVERNED? WELL, CCDS BEING A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY OR GOVERNED BY A FIVE MEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE CALL THEM BOARD MEMBERS.

WE CALL THEM SUPERVISORS.

THEY ARE INITIALLY ELECTED IN A LANDOWNER'S ELECTION AFTER THEY'RE ESTABLISHED BY THE LANDOWNERS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

WITHIN SIX YEARS AND 250 REGISTERED VOTERS.

THEY THEN START BEING ELECTED BY THE GENERAL ELECTION PROCESS, WHICH IS HELD IN NOVEMBER ON EVEN NUMBER YEARS.

SO IT IS THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CD THAT EVENTUALLY ARE GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE VOTING FOR THEIR GOVERNMENT, THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.

SO WHAT ELSE IS IMPORTANT ABOUT THESE SUPERVISORS? WELL, SIMILAR TO EACH ONE OF YOU UP THERE, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW FLORIDA STATUTES.

THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS LAW.

THEY ARE PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

THEY HAVE CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES SIMILAR TO YOUR COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR.

THE MEETINGS AGAIN, ARE ALSO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAN COME, CAN LISTEN TO THE MEETING AND ALSO HAS THE ABILITY TO SPEAK.

SO HOW ARE KIDS FINANCED? KIDS ARE FINANCED THROUGH TAX EXEMPT LONG TERM BONDS TO PAY FOR THAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

THOSE BONDS ARE SECURED BY SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS LEVIED ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CD.

NOW, A SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 170 REQUIRE THAT THE PROPERTY RECEIVES A SPECIAL BENEFIT FROM THE IMPROVEMENTS AND MUST BE ALLOCATED FAIRLY AND REASONABLY.

THESE ARE LONG TERM BONDS, BONDS THAT ARE TYPICALLY 30 YEARS.

THEY REQUIRE VALIDATION BY A COURT BY FILING A COMPLAINT WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT IN BROWARD COUNTY FOR THE BONDS TO BE VALIDATED, AGAIN, GIVING THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK ON A SHOW, CAUSE THEY ARE A COST EFFECTIVE METHOD OF FINANCING PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE NEEDS OF A LAND DEVELOPMENT.

AS WE STATED BEFORE, THIS IS AN INDEPENDENT UNIT OF GOVERNMENT WITH ITS OWN REVENUE SOURCES.

IT PROVIDES RELIANCE AND PERPETUITY FOR HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS.

IT IS GOVERNMENT.

IT STAYS IN PLACE.

TAX EXEMPT FINANCING AND PURCHASING POWERS.

IT PROVIDES SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY AT THE COST ONLY TO THE LANDOWNERS AND RESIDENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

IT IS NOT PROVIDE.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A COST TO ANYONE WHO DOESN'T ACTUALLY BUY OR LIVE WITHIN THE CD.

IT HAS THE GOVERNMENTAL CHECKS AND BALANCES.

IT PROVIDES A BUDGET EACH YEAR AND HAS TO BE ADOPTED PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTES.

IT REQUIRES AN AUDIT ONCE IT RECEIVED THE MONETARY THRESHOLD THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

IT'S GOVERNED BY THOSE LANDOWNERS AND RESIDENTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT FROM PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT ALSO HAS CERTAIN INFORMATION ON A MANDATORY, INDEPENDENT WEBSITE THAT IT MUST MAINTAIN.

SO IT PROVIDES THE INFORMATION FOR ANYONE TO GO ON THAT WEBSITE AND OBTAIN.

NOW LET'S GET TO WOODLANDS.

NOW, I KNOW THAT, THIS COMMISSION ALREADY KNOWS WOODLANDS INSIDE AND OUT.

IT'S BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU MANY TIMES, SO I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR EXACTLY WHAT IT CONSISTS OF, BUT I AM GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH THE CD AND THE PETITION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR FIRST READING.

SO WE FILED THE PETITION, FOR WOODLANDS.

IT HAD ONE NAME.

WE WERE REQUESTED TO CHANGE THE NAME.

WE WENT AHEAD AND REFILED THE PETITION FOR THE NEW NAME, WHICH IS NOW WOODLANDS SECTION NINE CD.

IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPMENT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE.

IT CONSISTS OF 276.48 ACRES, AND ALSO WILL CONSIST OF 335 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE CD IN THIS INSTANCE PROPOSES TO FUND THESE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IMPROVEMENTS, WATER AND SEWER, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, LANDSCAPING, CERTAIN GAITS, TRAILS, AMENITIES, BUFFERS, OPEN SPACE AND OTHER HORIZONTAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

NO EXISTING HOMES WILL BE WITHIN THIS CD AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND.

SO WHAT DOES THE CD FUND AND MAINTAIN? WELL, HERE'S SOME PRETTY PICTURES FOR YOU TO SEE.

ONE OF THE THINGS ARE THE LAKES.

THE LAKES WITHIN THE CD ARE PART OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

YES, THEY'RE PRETTY TO LOOK AT AND THEY MAY HAVE SOME BENEFIT FROM ESTHETIC VALUE, BUT THE MAIN PART OF IT IS PROVIDING THAT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

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IN THIS INSTANCE, THE IMPROVEMENTS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, ARE THE EXERCISE TRAILS THAT WILL BE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

THE CD ALSO HAS THE ABILITY, AS PART OF THE RECREATIONAL POWERS THAT WERE REQUESTING UNDER THE ORDINANCE, TO PROVIDE CERTAIN PARKS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

AN ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

NOW, THIS HAS A INDIRECT BENEFIT OF OTHERS WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CBD.

THE PROPOSED CDD AND ALSO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

BUT IT DIRECTLY BENEFITS THE INDIVIDUALS AND THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE WITHIN THE CBD.

ADDITIONALLY, THE CD IS PROPOSING TO FINANCE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY NETWORK, BUT THESE ARE THE PUBLIC ROADWAYS WITHIN THE CD, NOTHING THAT IS SPECIFICALLY PRIVATE. SOME OF THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED IN DEALING WITH THE LAKE AND THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ALSO DEAL WITH UPGRADING, UPGRADING TO TODAY'S CODE AND MAKING SURE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM SOME OF THESE PHOTOS AND ALSO THE DIAGRAM ITSELF, FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE DONE IN BRINGING THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO AVOID ANY TYPE OF FLOODING.

ALONG WITH THIS, WE HAVE CERTAIN ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ALSO DEALING WITH THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT THROUGHOUT INTO AND OUT OF THE CD ITSELF.

AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PLANS AND PART OF THE PROPOSED FINANCING ONCE THE CD IS ESTABLISHED.

SO THE APPROXIMATE COST THAT THE CD IS PROPOSING FOR THE FINANCING OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IS $28 MILLION.

NOW THAT'S PLUS OR MINUS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, AND I THINK HAS GONE OUT TO BID.

THE CD HASN'T EVEN BEEN ESTABLISHED YET.

BUT THOSE ARE ON THE GOOD FAITH COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN DETERMINED BY ENGINEERS.

THE CD DOES PROPOSE TO ISSUE TAX EXEMPT BONDS SECURED BY NON-AD VALOREM SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS LEVIED ON THE LAND WITHIN THE CD BOUNDARIES ONLY.

AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS A COPY OF THIS POWERPOINT, THIS IS A PUBLIC RECORD.

MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU.

I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS IT AS WELL AND CAN PROVIDE TO YOU.

THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS LEVIED ON THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CD WILL SPECIFICALLY BENEFIT THE IMPROVEMENTS, AND ONLY THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE CD WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE COSTS ASSOCIATED.

AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANYBODY WHO RESIDES OUTSIDE OF THE CD.

THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES OF THE CD TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN.

THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALSO ONLY BE BORNE BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT OWN PROPERTY WITHIN THE CD.

IT IS NOT GOING TO BE ANYBODY OUTSIDE.

ALL PURCHASES AND PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE CD WILL RECEIVE A DISCLOSURE NOTICE.

THERE IS A REQUIREMENT BY CHAPTER 190 BEFORE THEY SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE OF A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT IN BIG FONT THAT THEY ARE PURCHASING WITHIN A CD.

IT HAS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.

IT PROVIDES THAT INFORMATION TO THEM.

ADDITIONALLY IN THIS INSTANCE.

THE DEVELOPER HAS PREPARED A DISCLOSURE AND THIS DISCLOSURE, AND I KNOW IT'S IN SMALL PRINT, BUT ANYONE IS ENTITLED TO HAVE IT IN LARGER PRINT.

WE HAVE THAT AS WELL.

BUT IT WAS HARD TO PUT ON A POWERPOINT.

SO IN THAT IT SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES WHAT A CD IS.

NOW I'VE DONE A QUICK LITTLE OVERVIEW, BUT THIS PROVIDES MORE DETAIL WHAT A CD IS FOR ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN PURCHASING A HOME WITHIN A CD.

THOSE DISCLOSURES ALSO PROVIDE WHAT THE ASSESSMENTS WILL BE LOOKING AT NOW.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER IS AN ESTIMATE BASED UPON THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE JUST WENT OVER, AND ALSO THE ESTIMATE OF APPROXIMATELY $28 MILLION FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AS TO WHAT THOSE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ESTIMATE WOULD BE.

O&M IS OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AND DEBT SERVICE IS THE BOND.

SO NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 6000 A YEAR.

I ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT SET BY YEAR BECAUSE THE CD IS A GOVERNMENT.

THESE ASSESSMENTS ARE NON AD VALOREM SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS THAT WILL BE SEEN ON YOUR TRIM NOTICE ON YOUR TAXES.

THEY'RE PAID ALONG WITH TAXES.

SO SOMETIMES THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING.

WHEN LETTERS GO OUT TO THE INITIAL HOMEOWNERS EXPLAINING THAT THEY HAVE THESE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, THEY SOMETIMES SEE IT AND THEY'RE LIKE OH NO, $6,000 A MONTH.

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IT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 6000 A YEAR.

SO AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE PERIOD OF TIME, EXACTLY WHAT THE COST WOULD BE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WHITTLE THESE NUMBERS DOWN.

BUT WE BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD NOT BE IN EXCESS OF THE $6,000.

AND THAT IS BASICALLY THE END OF THE POWERPOINT.

PUT THIS HERE. SO AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS JUST FIRST READING.

SECOND READING IS A FULL PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTES.

WE WILL PROVIDE THOSE NOTICES AS STATED.

BUT WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS A COMPLETED PREPARED PETITION.

ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED UNDER CHAPTER ONE, DANNY, HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PETITION.

IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY YOUR STAFF, AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE STATED IN THEIR REPORT THAT IT HAS MET ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND I AM HERE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE SPECIFICALLY AS TO CD'S OR IN RELATION TO WOODLANDS.

SECTION NINE CD.

HERE WE GO. VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

QUESTION CD, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A CD SET UP WITH EIGHT DIFFERENT HOES? I HAVE A CD UP NORTH THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS EIGHT, BUT IT HAS AT LEAST SIX.

AND I THINK THE MASTER WOULD MAKE SEVEN.

AND HAVE YOU SEEN.

IS IT IS IT MORE COMPLICATED TO SET UP A CD WITH MULTIPLE HOES AS OPPOSED TO ONE HOA? NO, BECAUSE THE CD AND THE HOA ARE SEPARATE, THE CD IS SELF FUNCTIONING.

IT WORKS WITH HOES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE SAME COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE OVERLAPPING, BUT IT OPERATES SPECIFICALLY AS AN INDEPENDENT UNIT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE IS AN HOA OR IF THERE ISN'T AN HOA.

AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

THE EXISTING RESIDENT, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THEIR TAXES RAISED? NO, NOT ON THE EXISTING RESIDENTS.

AND SINCE THE WOODLANDS HAVE EXISTING HOES, WHY DON'T WE HAVE MEMBERS A FEW MEMBERS FROM THOSE HOA ON THIS PARTICULAR CITY BOARD? IT'S LAW. SO THE LAW REQUIRES UNDER CHAPTER 190 THAT THE ONLY INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN SERVE ON THE BOARD AFTER THE LANDOWNERS ELECTION, AND I AND I HAVE TO STAY AFTER THE LANDOWNERS ELECTION WHEN IT IS THE VOTED ON, SPECIFICALLY IN A GENERAL ELECTION, YOU HAVE TO BE A QUALIFIED ELECTOR, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO RESIDE WITHIN WOODLANDS.

SECTION NINE CD.

I GET THAT PART. I MEAN, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS EXIST.

SO THE LANDOWNERS ELECTION, SO WHOMEVER OWNS THE LAND OR OWNERS OF THE LAND DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WE HAVE IT ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS AGAIN IN NOVEMBER.

AND THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT CHOOSE THROUGH CASTING A BALLOT.

YOU JUST DON'T GO TO THE MACHINE.

YOU ACTUALLY CAST A BALLOT AT A DULY ADVERTISED ELECTION MEETING OF WHO YOU WANT FOR THOSE SEATS THAT ARE UP FOR ELECTION, AND THEY'RE STAGGERED. SO YOU HAVE TWO SEATS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FOUR YEARS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE SEATS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TWO YEARS.

NO, I MEAN, CURRENTLY, I SEE LONDON.

I MEAN, HE'S A FINE CHAP AND HE'S A, HE'S A NICE YOUNG MAN.

HE'S CURRENTLY ON THIS EXISTING.

SO FOR THIS EXISTING CD, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE LIKE TWO MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE EXISTING COMMUNITY.

IS THAT POSSIBLE.

SO. AS TO RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANT TO PLACE SOMEBODY.

ON TO THE CD BOARD.

YOU CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CD, THE CD HAS TO HOLD A LANDOWNERS ELECTION. SO THE FIRST FIVE PEOPLE ARE ONLY GOING TO BE ON THE BOARD FOR LESS THAN 90 DAYS.

OKAY. AND WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE TO A CD? WELL, THE ALTERNATIVE IS THE CD IS NOT HAVING ONE.

AND BY NOT HAVING ONE, THEN YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPER NOT BEING ABLE TO FINANCE THROUGH TAX FREE MUNICIPAL BONDS, THOSE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, UNLESS THE CITY IS GOING TO PUT IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IT'S NOT, BECAUSE CITIES DON'T DO THAT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ANYMORE, LIKE THEY USED TO.

NO OFFENSE TO YOUR CITY.

THEY'RE ALL THAT WAY. THEN THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PUT IN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

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IN FACT, IT'S ALWAYS HIGHER THAN TAX FREE MUNICIPAL BONDS.

FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN A GOVERNMENTAL ATTORNEY.

AND WITH THAT, THEY THE DEVELOPER THEN PASSES ON THAT EXTRA COST THAT IT HAS TO THE HOME BUYER.

SO THE DIFFERENCE AND I CAN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY AND I'M GOING TO LET THE DEVELOPER SPEAK TO THAT, WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE WOULD BE AS TO THE PRICE POINT OF A HOME.

IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER COST.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I DON'T REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER, BUT AS YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS AREN'T GOING TO BE GIVING AWAY HOMES AT A LOSS.

THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY ON THESE.

AND MY LAST QUESTION, IN REFERENCE TO THE THE FINE PRINT, I MEAN, I COULDN'T EVEN READ THAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S STANDARD TO HAVE IT LIKE SLIP IN THE BACK AS A FINE PRINT? IS IT GOING TO BE DISCLOSED TO THE THE HOME BUYERS THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, POTENTIAL TAX INCREASE AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF? YES. AS I STATED BEFORE, THE ONLY THING THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE IS THAT BIG BOLD PRINT FROM CHAPTER 190.

BUT SOME DEVELOPERS IN THIS DEVELOPER BEING ONE IS GOING TO BE PROVIDING THAT DISCLOSURE WHEN THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SALES OF EACH ONE OF THOSE HOMES.

SO THAT DISCLOSURE WILL BE PROVIDED IN THAT BASICALLY THAT FORMAT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT SMALL.

WILL BE PROVIDED TO THAT PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNER.

AND AND THEY CAN ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE IN REGARD TO THAT IS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

ALL RIGHTY. THANKS.

YOU'RE WELCOME. VICE MAYOR.

DID YOU WANT TO ASK THEM THOSE QUESTIONS? I'M GONNA LEAVE IT. SURE.

SAME QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE ALTERNATIVE TO A CD.

IF YOU CAN ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE MORE LIKE, WHAT IS THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE CAN WE CAN USE? SURE. AGAIN, I THINK GINGER ANSWERED APPROPRIATELY IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S A CD OR IT'S AN HOA, RIGHT.

SECTION NINE WOULD BE ESTABLISHED EFFECTIVELY AS JUST ANOTHER STANDARD HOA.

SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT GINGER MENTIONED IN HER PRESENTATION WITH REGARD TO HOW A CD FUNCTIONS IN THE SUNSHINE, RIGHT? MUCH LIKE MUCH LIKE YOU ALL DO AS A CITY.

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITHIN A CD IS PUBLICLY NOTICED, ADVERTISED FOR ALL OF THE MEETINGS.

I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE BOTTOM.

THE BOTTOM BULLET POINT ON ONE OF HER SLIDES EVEN REFERENCED.

THERE IS STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH CD TO MAINTAIN A WEBSITE AND PROVIDES ALL OF THE PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR COSTS.

BUDGETING PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE WORKING FOR THE CD.

IT IS ALL OUT THERE, EASILY ACCESSIBLE FOR ANYONE THAT LIVES WITHIN THE CD OR IN VERY IMPORTANTLY, AND I THINK THE PRIMARY BENEFIT TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.

ANYONE OUTSIDE THE CD, VICE MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS DURING CONSTRUCTION SERVING ON THE BOARD, THAT MAY OR NOT BE THE CASE.

IT MAY OR MAY NOT MAKE SENSE, BUT EVERY OTHER OF THE 892 HOMES WITHIN THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE ABILITY TO ATTEND, TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD AT A CD MEETING, MUCH LIKE THEY WOULD HERE.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE. IF IT'S AN HOA, YOU'VE GOT A NINTH SECTION PLUS A HOA, ALL OF WHOM ARE SOMETIMES TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND SOMETIMES AREN'T WITH A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NEW TO A COMMUNITY THAT DECIDED TO MOVE IN.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WE CONTROL ALMOST 200 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE.

AND I SAY WE THIS IS WHOEVER THESE FUTURE 300, AND I THINK IT'S CURRENTLY 328 HOMES ARE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

AND WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU DO IT.

AND SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL HAVE TO BE PART OF THAT APPROVAL PROCESS, OR IT'S A REGULAR HOA, WHICH YOU'RE NOT PART OF THAT PROCESS.

WE ESTABLISH AS A DEVELOPER.

WE SET UP THROUGH THE STATE LEVEL, WE WRITE DOCUMENTS, WE RECORD THOSE DOCUMENTS, AND THEY GOVERN THEMSELVES THE SAME WAY ANY OTHER STANDARD HOA MIGHT WITHIN THE CITY.

SO YEAH. GO AHEAD. SORRY.

CAN CAN AN EXISTING HOA WITHIN THE WOODLANDS JOIN THE DISTRICT? IS THAT POSSIBLE? I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.

THAT'S MORE OF A GINGER QUESTION.

I THINK THE PLEASE.

UNFORTUNATELY, NO.

WHAT THEY COULD DO IF THEY CHOSE TO IS TO REQUEST FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT THEY DO WANT TO BECOME PART OF THE CD.

AND THEN WHAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR IS EACH INDIVIDUAL THAT OWNS A HOME IN ANY OTHER PART OUTSIDE THE CD WOULD HAVE TO ALSO CONSENT.

WE WOULD BE FILING A PETITION HERE TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CD, BUT EVERY SINGLE PERSON WOULD HAVE TO CONSENT TO BE INCLUDED THERE WITH.

VICE MAYOR, IF I MAY, I WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE OTHER QUESTION YOU ASKED OF GINGER A FEW MOMENTS AGO WITH REGARD TO THAT DISCLOSURE YOU SAW IT LOOKED LIKE FINE PRINT.

IT'S NOT RIGHT. IT HAD TO BE CONDENSED TO GET ON A POWERPOINT AND GET TO 2 OR 3 PAGE DOCUMENT, EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11.

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I KNOW. WE PRINTED IT OUT AND LOOKED AT IT TO TO EDIT IT BEFORE IT WAS PLACED IN FRONT OF YOU ALL TODAY.

THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DISCLOSURE, RIGHT? THAT IS, THAT IS ANY PROSPECTIVE OR NEW HOME PURCHASER WITHIN THE CD OVER AND ABOVE THAT.

AND WE WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IF WE NEED TO IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMISSION FEELS IS MOST COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME SOME CONCERN WITH REGARD TO CD'S IN THE PAST. OBVIOUSLY ALL THE DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED PREVIOUSLY.

WE ARE HAPPY TO PLACE SIGNS OUTSIDE THE SALES CENTER THAT SAY, THIS IS A CD COMMUNITY.

I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S NO TRYING TO HIDE THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A CD, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEARLY AND UPFRONT, DISCLOSE FOR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO PURCHASE A HOME WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT SAYS THAT TO SOME EXTENT, BUT IT'S IT'S MORE GENERAL IN THE FORM OF DISCLOSURES.

AND WE'LL WE'LL FLY BANNERS ACROSS ALL OF TAMARAC ACROSS OUR SALES CENTER.

I MEAN, WE WANT IT TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR AS TO ANYONE THAT'S LOOKING TO BUY IN THAT THIS WOULD BE A CD IF IT'S ULTIMATELY APPROVED.

ALRIGHTY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. DANIEL. GOOD MORNING.

SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND CLARIFICATION.

ONE. THERE'S ONLY ONE COMMUNITY IN TAMARAC THAT HAS CDC, AND I KNOW IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER THAT DID THAT COMMUNITY.

TWO I BELIEVE THAT COMMUNITY HAS BOTH CD AND HOA.

THAT IS CORRECT. SABAL PALM CD IS IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

YOU HAD ANOTHER ONE? THAT. I KNOW YOU HAD ONE.

WHAT IS THE OTHER ONE? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER ONE.

IT WAS DISSOLVED LAST YEAR.

I BELIEVE IT WAS TAMARAC VILLAGE.

OKAY. AND. WELL, THAT WOULD THAT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY, SO IT WOULDN'T.

IT'S NOT THE SAME.

AND IF IT WAS DISSOLVED LAST YEAR.

YEAH. IT'S NOT THE SAME BECAUSE THIS WOULD GO ON FOR A WHILE.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE RECORD THERE.

THERE WAS TWO AT ONE TIME WITHIN THE ONE FOR RENTAL PROPERTY AND ONE FOR RESIDENTS THAT ACTUALLY OWNED THEIR PROPERTY.

AND YOU'RE SAYING THE ONE FOR THE RENTAL PROPERTY, WHICH ONLY HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR A FEW YEARS, WAS DISSOLVED LAST YEAR.

SO IT'S NOT THE SAME SITUATION.

OKAY. TO WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THE BACKUP, IT'S COST 28 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS.

AND I THINK MR. SCOTT SAID, THAT MONEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT ON THE RESIDENTS IF WE DON'T DO THE CDC CD.

I KEEP SAYING CDC, I DON'T KNOW WHY TOO MUCH COVID.

IF THAT GOES ON, THE RESIDENTS WHEN I DID THE CALCULATIONS, ABOUT 86,000.

JUST ADD IT TO THEIR HOME COSTS.

WELL, BASED ON 28 MILLION DIVIDED BY 328.

THE CALCULATOR, I DIDN'T.

MY HEAD CAN'T DO IT.

THE CALCULATOR SAID ABOUT 86,000.

PUT IT TO THE COST OF THE HOME.

I THINK IT'S UNFAIR.

AND PROBABLY THAT'S WHY WE ONLY HAVE ONE COMMUNITY WITH CD THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY HOA AND ANNUALLY ON THEIR TAX, THEY HAVE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $6,000.

NOW FOR ME, 10,000 PLUS 6000, -10,000.

IF I HAD TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $6,000 FOR COMMON AREA IMPROVEMENTS, WHETHER OR NOT THE IMPROVEMENT IS NEEDED, THAT'S $16,000 JUST IN TAXES.

PLUS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CURRENT HOA FEES ARE, BUT THEY WOULD PROBABLY KNOW BEST.

THEIR HOA FEE COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 500 A MONTH.

THAT'S I DON'T KNOW, THE THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO PURCHASE IN THE WOODLANDS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, A LOT OF STRAIN TO PUT ON ANYONE, ESPECIALLY IN THE TIMES WE'RE LIVING IN WHERE GROCERY ALONE EATS UP HALF YOUR CHECK, IF NOT ALL.

SO I'M, I'M I'M SEEING WHY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, SEE DEEDS IN TAMARAC.

WHAT ELSE DID I HAVE TO AX? YEAH. I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THIS.

I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER BOLTON YOUR LIGHT WAS LIT OR SORRY, CAN I QUICKLY JUST ADDRESS A COUPLE COMMENTS THERE FROM COMMISSIONER? DANIEL, I JUST WANTED TO.

BY THE WAY, MIKE NUNZIATA, 13TH FLOOR HOMES, BASED IN FORT LAUDERDALE.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE.

YOUR MATH WAS SOUND, I WASN'T, I OBVIOUSLY YOU SAW ME SHAKING MY HEAD.

YOUR MATH WAS CORRECT.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND IS THE $28 MILLION THAT YOU SAW ON SCREEN IS NOT IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY WOULD BE PAYING FOR THE HOUSE.

IT'S BASICALLY THE OPTIONS ARE THIS WE AS THE DEVELOPER ARE GOING TO GET THAT $28 MILLION, WHETHER IT IS IN THE PRICE OF THE HOME OR IT'S FINANCED THROUGH THE

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IT'S JUST THE FINANCING MECHANISM THAT WE UTILIZE IN ORDER TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT $28 MILLION.

IT'S EITHER COMING FROM THE HOME BUYER OR IT'S COMING FROM THE CD.

CORRECT. ONE THING ABOUT THE HOME BUYER IS THEY COULD PAY THAT 86,000 EACH.

THEY COULD MORTGAGE IT FOR TEN, 15, 30 YEARS.

TAXES IS FOREVER AS FAR AS I KNOW.

WELL IT'S ACTUALLY SO SO SO IT'S ACTUALLY SO THE THE HOME BUYER CHOICE THEN.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE HOME BUYER DOES HAVE A CHOICE ACTUALLY.

SO LET'S SAY LET'S USE THE ROUND $80,000.

WE'LL ISSUE LESS THAN THAT. THAT'S A MAXIMUM NOT TO EXCEED THE REAL AMOUNTS PROBABLY CLOSER TO 40 $50,000 PER LOT.

BUT LET'S STAY WITH THE MATH THAT YOU WERE DOING OF $80,000.

RIGHT? A HOME BUYER ACTUALLY HAS THE OPTION WHEN THEY PURCHASE A HOME TO PAY OFF THE CD.

BUT HERE'S WHY A HOME BUYER WOULD NEVER DO THAT.

IF YOU GO TO PAY OFF THE $80,000 AND ROLL THAT INTO A MORTGAGE.

TODAY, INTEREST RATES ARE ABOUT 7% FOR A 30 YEAR FIXED RATE MORTGAGE, RIGHT? COST YOU 7% ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO FINANCE THAT $80,000.

IF, HOWEVER, WE HAVE THE CD IN PLACE, WHICH, AS GINGER POINTED OUT, WHEREVER SHE IS, IS TAX EXEMPT FINANCING OR MUNICIPAL TAX EXEMPT FINANCING, THE FINANCING RATE FOR THOSE ARE WHAT LAND IN LIKE FIVE AND A QUARTER 5.6%.

IT'S CHEAPER FOR THE HOME BUYER TO USE THE CD FINANCING THAN IT WOULD BE IF THEY WERE TO DO IT THROUGH THEIR TRADITIONAL LENDER COMING IN AND DO THE HOME.

THAT SAID, IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T WANT A CD ON THEIR HOME, THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE THAT ABILITY.

BUT JUST DOING THE SIMPLE MATH AND TO YOUR POINT, EVERYTHING'S EXPENSIVE.

THIS IS A CHEAPER FORM OF FINANCING FOR THE HOME BUYER THAN A TRADITIONAL MORTGAGE IS.

AND I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE NO ONE THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO THAT HAS A CDC AGREES WITH YOU.

I'VE YET TO HEAR ONE PERSON SAY, OH, IT'S GREAT.

I'LL TELL YOU HOW TO GET THEM TO AGREE WITH YOU.

TELL THEM THEY CAN GO. AND I CAN SAY THIS, SIR, NOT TO CUT YOU OFF.

I LOVE LOOKING AT MODELS LIKE I'M THAT PERSON WHO'S NOT BUYING A HOUSE, AND I'M DRIVING AROUND TO SEE YOUR MODELS, AND THEN THE SALESPERSON TRY TO SELL IT TO YOU, AND THEY MAKE IT SOUND FABULOUS, LIKE THIS IS THE GREATEST THING.

IT'S NOT.

SO THAT'S THE PART WHERE I'M EXTREMELY WEARY BECAUSE I HAVE EXPERIENCED IT.

I THINK COOPER CITY WAS ONE OF THE PLACES, AND WHEN I LEFT, I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT TILL I HEARD PEOPLE TALKING AND DID MY OWN RESEARCH.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING AROUND IT.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

I WOULD TELL YOU, THE WAY TO EFFECTIVELY TEST THIS IS FOR SOMEBODY THAT SAYS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY OFF YOUR CD TOMORROW IF YOU WANT TO GO FINANCE IT THROUGH A TRADITIONAL LENDER, THEY'RE GOING TO GET RATES, LIKE I JUST MENTIONED, SEVEN, 8% DEPENDING ON THEIR CREDIT.

RIGHT? THAT'S HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST THEM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO FINANCE THAT PORTION VERSUS THE IN-PLACE CD RATE, WHICH, AS YOU JUST HEARD IN THIS CASE IS CLOSE TO FIVE.

BUT THEY'LL ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO REFINANCE IF THE INTEREST RATE GO DOWN A COUPLE YEARS AGO, 2%, THEY'LL.

AND WE DON'T KNOW I MEAN I DON'T KNOW SAME THING WITH CDS.

YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT OKAY.

YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO REFINANCE YOUR TAXES.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IF YOU WANTED TO GET OUT OF YOUR CD BECAUSE THE RATES WERE SO MUCH LOWER, IF THEY WENT BACK DOWN TO 2% OR WHATEVER, LIKE THEY WERE CRAZY TIMES, RIGHT? YOU'D ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST GO BACK TO YOUR LENDER AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANT TO GET RID OF THIS.

THIS IS A LOWER FORM OF FINANCING.

LET'S DO IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN A COUPLE THINGS.

THAT'S ONE OF THEM.

WE WE, I HAD CD'S THAT WERE ISSUED BACK IN 2013.

THEIR BONDS AND THEY WERE HIGHER AMOUNTS.

AND THEN AFTER 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, THEY WERE ABLE TO REFINANCE THEM AND SO LOWERED THAT AMOUNT.

SOME OF THOSE MONIES, THOSE CD BOARDS THAT ARE MADE OF RESONANCE, DECIDED TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS AND LOWER EVERYBODY'S DEBT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE 30 YEAR BOND.

SOME OF THE OTHER CD'S DECIDED TO TAKE THAT EXTRA MONEY, PUT IT BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND REDO THE ROADS.

SO EACH CD, BECAUSE THEY ARE WHEN THEY GO TO BECOME RESONANT BOARDS AND THEY'RE FULLY ELECTED, SUCH AS YOU BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY'RE RUNNING THEIR OWN COMMUNITY AS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DECIDE WHAT TO DO FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CD AND HOA THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS OF BEING A GOVERNMENTAL ATTORNEY FOR CD'S AND OTHER CITIES, IS THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY OF A CD TO COLLECT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ON THE TAXES? YOU HAVE THE FUNDS TO KEEP UP THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, TO KEEP UP THE ROADWAYS, TO KEEP UP THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE SYSTEM OVERLOADING AND FLOODING TO KEEP THE SIDEWALKS CLEAN, TO KEEP THE LANDSCAPING LOOKING GOOD.

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I HAD A COMMUNITY I HAD I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY I HAD ONE COMMUNITY.

THAT I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE DOWN IN MIAMI DADE COUNTY WHERE THE HOA WENT BANKRUPT AND HAD NO MONEY, AND IT ACTUALLY HAD A CLUBHOUSE WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.

THE HOA PRESIDENT CAME TO THE CD BOARD AND ASKED THE CD BOARD IF IT WOULD BUY THE CLUBHOUSE.

THE CD BOUGHT BECAUSE THEY HAD A SHUT DOWN.

THE CD BOARD WENT AHEAD, GOT BOND FINANCING AND BOUGHT THE CLUBHOUSE, AND THEN THE CLUBHOUSE HAD TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

BUT AT LEAST THE CLUBHOUSE WAS ABLE TO OPEN BACK UP AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY WERE ABLE TO USE IT.

SO THERE IS A BENEFIT AS BEING A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, AS THE CD TO PROVIDE FOR THAT WHEN A HURRICANE COMES.

AND I HAD THIS IN MIAMI, DADE COUNTY, BROWARD COUNTY, PALM BEACH COUNTY, BREVARD COUNTY.

THE CD WAS ABLE BECAUSE IT CAN ENTER INTO INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTS.

THEY THE CD WAS ABLE TO CLEAN UP THEIR COMMUNITY QUICKER THAN THE HOA OR THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK ONTO THOSE CONTRACTS THAT THOSE CITIES AND COUNTIES HAD AND THE STATE.

SO THAT IS ANOTHER PLUS FOR CD.

AND THESE BONDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONVENTIONAL FINANCING, EXCUSE ME, MOST CONVENTIONAL FINANCING IS 30 YEARS.

MOST LONG TERM MUNICIPAL BONDS THAT CD'S ISSUE ARE THE SAME.

WELL, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING AS AN HOA.

DOING AN ASSESSMENT BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, EITHER WAY, IT'S THE SAME.

IT'S THE SAME THING AS WE TRYING TO PURCHASE SIMILAR, NOT THE SAME SHAKER VILLAGE TO BUILD A COMMUNITY CENTER.

YEAH, I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE THAT HEADACHE.

THAT'S ONLY ATTRACTION YOU BROUGHT TO ME RIGHT THERE.

I'D RATHER NOT HAVE THE HEADACHE.

HOWEVER, TO ME IT'S THE SAME AS THESE CONDOS DOING ASSESSMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT FEELS LIKE.

THESE NEW RESIDENTS COMING IN RESENTFULLY WILL BE PAYING THE BURDEN OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ALREADY EXIST THERE.

WELL, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE PURCHASING IN WOODLAND'S SECTION NINE CD, THEY DON'T HAVE TO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO. AND I THINK THE KEY IS THE DISCLOSURE'S GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST WHAT'S REQUIRED BY LAW.

AND PROVIDING THESE BROCHURES AND WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING TO BE PROVIDED, SUCH AS WHAT YOU SAID, BULLETIN BOARDS OUTSIDE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS AND PROVIDING THAT TO THEM.

THEN THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

I MEAN, IT SHOWS UP ON YOUR TITLE SEARCH.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU GO OUT AND YOU PURCHASE YOUR HOME AND I KNOW THE MAYOR KNOWS THIS, AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY TALK TO YOUR TITLE COMPANY WHEN YOU WERE BUYING YOUR HOME OR FROM CRAZY PEOPLE LIKE ME, THEY ACTUALLY READ THEIR TITLE COMMITMENT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BUYING INTO A CD, YOU'LL SEE IT.

BUT WE'RE TALKING THE AVERAGE PERSON, SOMEONE WHO'S NOT AN ATTORNEY.

AND THAT'S RIGHT. WHO DOES NOT DEAL WITH REAL ESTATE.

AND YOU'RE DEALING WITH SALESPEOPLE WHO IF I WAS A SALES PERSON, I WANT TO SELL.

RIGHT. SO IT GETS TWISTED.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK FOR THIS CD AND ALL CD'S, ACTUALLY.

BUT THIS CD IS HAVING THOSE DISCLOSURES VERY SIMPLY PROVIDED TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT SALES OFFICE TO PROVIDE THAT TO THEM.

SO THEY HAVE THAT SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY MAY BE PURCHASING IN.

AND IT HAS THE NUMBERS, THE HIGH NUMBERS, BUT IT HAS THE NUMBERS IN THERE.

AND I AND I THINK THAT REALLY IS THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU SEE FOR WOODLAND SECTION ON.

FROM YOUR CONCERN THAT YOU STATED.

THANK YOU. YOU GOOD.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THANK YOU. HOW MANY COMMUNITIES HAVE 13 FLOORS BUILT? OH, I CAN'T ANSWER ANY OF THAT.

I'LL ADDRESS THAT ONE.

SO UNDER THE HOME BUILDING PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, I THINK WE'RE UP TO 6 OR 7 COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE DONE.

WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF APARTMENT AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS AS WELL.

I THINK TO DATE WE'VE PROBABLY DONE SOMETHING LIKE 40, 50 PROJECTS.

SO HOW MANY OF THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE KIDS? OF THE SIX WITHIN.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, IT APPLIES MOSTLY LIKE YOU WERE POINTING OUT WITH TAMARAC VILLAGE ON THE APARTMENT SIDE OF THINGS.

IT REALLY DOESN'T APPLY SO WELL TO THAT WITHIN HOME BUILDING.

I THINK FOUR OF THE SIX THAT WE HAVE CONSTRUCTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTING THE HOMES.

BUT WE'VE ALSO DONE A NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES WHERE WE'VE DONE ALL OF THE HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BASICALLY GETTING THEM TO A FINISHED LOT STATE.

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AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS, THOUGH, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, THAT AT LEAST HALF OF THOSE LOTS WERE WITHIN KDS.

SO THESE ARE HOMES? FOUR OUT OF SIX.

FOUR OUT OF SIX FOR ONES THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED THE HOMES.

AND THEN IN OTHER CASES WE'LL DO, I CALL IT THE HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BASICALLY DOING ALL THE COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SOMEBODY ELSE, PULTE, A LENNAR OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT MIGHT BUILD THE HOMES.

AND IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, PROBABLY ABOUT HALF OF THOSE HAD CD'S IN PLACE.

TELL ME WHERE THESE HOMES ARE.

WE HAVE HOMES WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE THREE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TAMARAC.

SO FOUR OUT OF SIX ARE IN TAMARAC.

NO, NO, NO, THREE OUT OF SIX ARE IN TAMARAC THREE, WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S UP IN RIVIERA BEACH THAT WE DID.

SO THREE OF THE FOUR ARE IN TAMARAC AND ONE IN RIVIERA BEACH.

OF THE ONES THAT WE CONSTRUCTED, THE HOMES.

CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THEN THE TWO THAT DOES NOT HAVE CD.

WHERE ARE THEY? WHAT'S UP? WE HAVE, TWO IN UNINCORPORATED PALM BEACH COUNTY.

AND HOW DID YOU FUND THESE TWO COMMUNITIES THAT DO NOT HAVE A CD? YEAH. NO, NO, NO. AND IT'S GREAT.

AND THAT GOES TO THE OPTIONS, RIGHT.

WE USE TRADITIONAL BANK FINANCING.

SO IF I'M TO APPLY THE SAME HERE, YOU KNOW, THE $28 MILLION OR SO THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 28 MILLION FINANCED THROUGH A TRADITIONAL LENDER, A SUNTRUST OR REGIONS BANK, SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, AS OPPOSED TO A CD.

AND AGAIN, THAT COST OF FINANCING BEING HIGHER THAN IF WE WERE TO ISSUE THROUGH A CD.

SO, IF WE VOTE NO, IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE PUTTING YOUR PROJECT IN JEOPARDY.

IT'S JUST A BUSINESS DECISION ON YOUR BEHALF, ON YOUR END, WHETHER OR NOT TO FUND YOUR CD VIA BONDS OR OR TRADITIONAL LOANS.

YEAH. I'D LOVE TO TELL YOU THAT THE PROJECT FAILS AND WE DON'T DO IT.

AND THEN EVERYBODY'S SCARED. BUT AT THE SAME POINT IN TIME, YOU'RE CORRECT.

WE STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

IT JUST COSTS US, AND ULTIMATELY THOSE EVENTUAL HOMEBUYERS MORE MONEY BECAUSE OF THE COST OF FINANCING ON US.

HOW MUCH WILL THESE HOMES AND THE WOODLANDS COST? YEAH, I THINK OUR AVERAGE PRICE POINT THAT WE'RE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY 800 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS.

WE'LL HAVE SOME HOMES, YOU KNOW, BUTTING UP AGAINST OR OVER THE MILLION DOLLAR MARK, 808.

I HAVE THE FLOOR 800 PLUS, 800,000 PLUS.

YEAH. OKAY. AND HOW MANY HOMES? 335. OKAY.

NOT 324.

REMEMBER, THERE'S THERE'S SEVEN.

OKAY. 335.

ALL RIGHT. CHRISTINE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

GOOD MORNING. CHRISTINE CAJUSTE, DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES.

OKAY. YOU'RE GLOWING TODAY, BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU. WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, KEEP IT UP.

SHE LOVES IT. CHRISTINE, I WON'T TAKE HIS 800,000 NUMBER, BUT I'LL DO 700,000 ON A $700,000 HOME. HOW MUCH DOES THE CITY GET IN TAXES? I WOULD SAY ON 700,000 AT 7.0 MIL FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC IT WILL BE 4900.

AND LET'S SAY THE PRICE OF THE HOME IS $780,000.

HOW MUCH DOES DOES THE CITY GET? THAT WOULD BE 5460.

SO AT A $780,000 HOUSE VERSUS A $700,000 HOUSE, THERE IS PROBABLY A DIFFERENCE OF $1,800 MORE THAT THE CITY GETS IN TAXES.

THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE JUST $560, $560.

SO $404,000 VERSUS 5100.

IT'S 4900 VERSUS 5460.

OKAY. SO, FOR 335 HOMES, THE CUMULATIVE VALUE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE $187,600. YES.

AND LET'S SAY OVER 30 YEARS, IT'S $5.6 MILLION.

SO. IF YOU DO NOT ROLL THE THE COST OF THE CD INTO THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE, THEN YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY PUTTING THE MONEY ON THE TAX BILL.

THE BURDEN SHIFTS TO THE PERSON THAT IS PAYING THE TAXES.

SO THEY HAVE THE FULL BRUNT OF THE TAX BILL.

THEY COME AND THEY COMPLAIN EVERY SINGLE YEAR FOR 30 YEARS.

IF YOU, FROM A BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW, DO CONVENTIONAL LOANS AND THEN SHIFT THE COST TO THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE, VALUE OF THE HOUSE MOVES FROM

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DOCTOR DANIELS MATH OF $80,000.

THAT MEANS A BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW FROM THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW IS THAT IF YOU ADD THE THE $80,000 TO THE COST OF THE HOUSE, WE GET MORE MONEY.

BAD BUSINESS DECISION FOR YOU BECAUSE OF THE CONVENTION ALONE.

BUT IN THE END, CITY WINS.

AND YOU KNOW WHO I FIGHT FOR.

THE CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS.

BECAUSE IN THIS CASE, WE GET MORE MONEY AND THE RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TO PAY MORE MONEY ON A TAX BILL FOR CD. THAT.

THAT'S THE ONE PART THAT I WOULD DISPUTE.

YOUR MATH WAS SOUND, OBVIOUSLY.

AND YOUR MATH OBVIOUSLY. VERY GOOD.

SO YOU'RE CORRECT.

IF THE HOME PRICE WERE $80,000 MORE, AND AGAIN, THAT'S A MAXIMUM.

WHAT WE INTEND TO ISSUE IS $40,000 OR SO.

SO IT'S MAYBE HALF OR CLOSE TO HALF OF WHATEVER THAT DIFFERENCE WAS.

OKAY. SO YES, THE CITY WOULD GET THAT WHERE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THINGS FOR THE CITY AND YOUR RESIDENTS, FOR YOUR ULTIMATE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PURCHASERS WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.

IT IS CHEAPER FOR THEM TO HAVE THE CDD IN PLACE THAN IT WOULD BE TO NOT.

THAT COST OF FINANCING I GO BACK TO THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS GOING THROUGH A CD, WHICH IS PROBABLY 200 TO 300 BASIS POINTS LOWER THAN IT WOULD BE IN A TRADITIONAL BANK FINANCING SETTING.

SO PART OF WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FROM OUR STANDPOINT, AND I THINK IMPORTANT TO THE CITY TOO, IS IT HELPS TO MAKE THAT HOMEOWNERSHIP DREAM MORE OF A REALITY BECAUSE WE'RE HELPING TO BRING DOWN THE COST FOR THAT BUYER.

AND IT'S IN PLACE FOR 30 YEARS FOR THEM.

AND LISTEN, MY MY MATH IS, IS NOT FUZZY AND AND MY AND AND MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS NOT JUST BASED ON EMOTIONS OR LISTENING TO YOU TALK OVER THE WEEKEND.

I SPENT ABOUT FOUR DAYS BETWEEN THURSDAY AND TODAY LOOKING AT FLORIDA STATUTES.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DID MY HOMEWORK.

I LOOK AT CHAPTER 190 FOR FOR CD'S, AND I LOOKED AT CHAPTER 720 FOR HOAS.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, YOU WILL HAVE AN HOA.

WHILE YOU ALSO HAVE THE CD.

AND I GUARANTEE YOU THE HOA WILL ALSO BE, LEVYING COSTS ON, ON THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CD CHAPTER NINE 190 SAYS THAT IT IT FINANCED FUNDS, PLANS, ESTABLISHED, ACQUIRES CONTRACTS, RECONSTRUCTS THAT SORT OF STUFF.

WHAT THE CD IS DOING IS, IS, IS THE THE COST OF WHAT'S UNDERGROUND TO COME UP.

AND WHAT THE HOA DOES IS WHAT'S ON GROUND ALL THE WAY UP, ELEVATED.

SO YOU KNOW.

I'M WITH.

I'M WITH THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF TAMARAC WITH THIS, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO COME AND AND COMPLAIN THAT THEIR TAX BILLS ARE HIGH.

AND I CERTAINLY WILL BE HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. SO LET'S JUST USE REALISTIC NUMBERS.

I DON'T THINK 700,000 IS GOING TO BE A THING.

SO IF WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO $1 MILLION, I DON'T THINK ANYONE.

YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE WAY HIGHER THAN 800,000 FOR SURE.

ANYONE BUYING A HOME FOR $1 MILLION CLOSE TO A MILLION AIN'T GOING TO CARE ABOUT SIX GRAND.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT THEIR HOA.

BILL, CAN I MAKE ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION? BY THE WAY, I AGREE WITH YOUR POINT.

ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THE $6,000 THAT YOU GUYS SAW IN THE DISCLOSURE.

WHEN WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CD, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT 6000 IS COMPRISED OF TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

THE FIRST IS THE PENNY COMPONENT.

THAT'S THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST THAT'S REPAID ON THOSE BONDS THAT WE ISSUE ABOUT HALF OF THE 6000.

SO $3,000 IS GOING TO REPAY THE PENNY.

THE BALANCE $3,000 ALSO IS WHAT'S CALLED O&M OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

THAT'S $3,000 PER YEAR THAT SOMEBODY WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE PAYING, WHETHER IT IS LEVIED THROUGH THE CD, WHICH IS AGAIN PAID ANNUALLY ON THE TAX ROLL OR IT'S GOING THROUGH AN HOA.

SO TO YOUR POINT, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, IT ALL FACTORS IN.

IT'S THE SAME AS HOA DUES.

WHEN SOMEBODY WHO'S PURCHASING CLOSE TO $1 MILLION HOME, THEY'RE NOT FUSSING OVER THAT SORT OF STUFF.

SO EVEN IF I WERE TO PAY 800,000 AND THEN ADD ON ANOTHER 86,000 AND I PAY THAT OFF IMMEDIATELY, RIGHT.

LET'S SAY A MONTH FROM NOW, I'M LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE ANYMORE.

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YOU JUST LOST 86,000 BECAUSE THAT VALUE IS TRULY NOT THERE UNLESS SOMEONE IS REALLY WANTING WANTING THE HOME.

SO I THINK IT CONTRADICTS WHAT SOME OF US ARE SAYING, THINKING THAT, IF WE PAY IT OFF AHEAD OF TIME VERSUS FINANCING IT, IT IS A GOOD MECHANISM. YES.

DEVELOPER MAKES MONEY.

THE CITY MAKES MONEY, I THINK, I'LL LEAVE THAT ONE THERE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

AND THE.

YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO.

THAT'S MY BOTTOM LINE.

IT'S NOT REALLY AN ARGUMENT.

MY POINT IS, ANYONE MOVING IN KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO PAY.

AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT YOU'RE 100% CORRECT? SO THERE'S NO STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT GINGER POINTED OUT? SOUNDS LIKE YOU REVIEWED AS WELL WHAT WE INTEND TO DO IN THIS COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE LOOK, WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH PRIOR COMMUNITIES IS GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.

SO WHAT SCOTT OR GINGER SHOWED YOU ON THE SCREEN EARLIER THAT IT LOOKED SMALL UP THERE.

THE IDEA THERE WAS THAT'S ACTUALLY A BOOKLET THAT SITS IN ONE OF THOSE STAND AT OUR SALES CENTER DESK.

EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE CD.

AND IT'S VERY SIMPLY EXPLAINED IN THERE FOR SOMEBODY TO OPEN UP AND LOOK AT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST WHEN YOU'RE PURCHASING THE HOME OR IT'S BAKED INTO A CONTRACT, WHICH IS WHAT STATE LAW REQUIRES.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK SCOTT WAS THE ONE THAT MENTIONED IT.

LIKE WE HAVE NO PROBLEM, LIKE RAISING THE RED FLAG, PUTTING A SIGN IN THE SALES CENTER THAT SAYS THIS IS A CD COMMUNITY AND DISCLOSING IT TO THE HIGH HEAVENS, BASICALLY, THAT SOMEBODY IS MOVING INTO A CD COMMUNITY TO HELP FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONCERN AND THE CALLS THAT YOU GET FROM PEOPLE THAT MIGHT SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW, RIGHT.

SO THEY CANNOT COME BACK TO US EVERY YEAR SCREAMING AT US BECAUSE OF THEIR TAXES, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME, WAY AHEAD OF TIME.

WHEN THEY'RE SIGNING THE DOCUMENTS.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU'LL STILL HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNISTS WHO CALL YOU GUYS.

I'M SURE YOU RECOGNIZE THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME POINT IN TIME, IT'S GOING TO BE DISCLOSED.

YOU'LL SEE IT WITHIN OUR SALES CENTER.

EVENTUALLY, IT'S GOING TO SMACK YOU IN THE FACE WHEN YOU WALK IN THE SALES CENTER.

WHETHER IT'S THE MATERIAL THAT GIVES YOU THE DETAILS, SIGN ON THE WALL IN THE CONTRACT, MULTIPLE POINT OR TOUCH POINTS ALONG THE SALES PROCESS WHERE SOMEBODY IS GOING TO KNOW I AM PURCHASING WITHIN A CD COMMUNITY, AND SO THAT WHEN YOU DO GET THAT CALL, OR IF YOU DO GET THAT CALL IN THE FUTURE, YOU CAN TURN THEM RIGHT BACK TO I WAS THERE, TURN THEM BACK OVER TO YOUR CITY STAFF AND ULTIMATELY PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH THE CD'S MANAGEMENT BECAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHO WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERN, NOT THE CITY.

HOW MANY HOMES WOULD HAVE TO BE SOLD, SO THAT THE HOMEOWNERS CAN BE PART OF THE BOARD? YOU KNOW THE TECHNICAL ANSWER THERE.

THAT'S OKAY. IT'S NOT DONE THAT WAY.

IT'S HOW MANY REGISTERED VOTERS? IT'S SIX YEARS AND 250 REGISTERED VOTERS IS THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THAT YOU MUST START ELECTING BY QUALIFIED ELECTORS.

GOT IT. VICE MAYOR.

THANKS. MIKE.

COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY.

RIGHT. I SEE YOUR RESUME SAYS COLUMBIA BUSINESS SCHOOL.

YES. WARREN BUFFETT WENT THERE, RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO.

WORLD'S GREATEST INVESTOR.

I THINK HE COINED THE PHRASE OPM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT HE COINED IT.

I KNOW THE PHRASE, THOUGH. WHAT DOES THAT PHRASE MEAN? OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, I BELIEVE.

RIGHT. SEEMS LIKE THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE USING MY, FUTURE RESIDENTS MONEY TO, FINANCE THE THE THE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON WHAT YOU MENTIONED TO COMMISSIONER.

BOLTON. SO, SO. AND I APOLOGIZE IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT CAME ACROSS, BUT ABSOLUTELY NOT.

LOOK, IF WE PUT $40,000 INTO THE HOME, IT'S EITHER FINANCED THROUGH A CD AT A LOWER COST THAN TRADITIONAL FINANCING, OR IT IS PAID FOR IN THE PURCHASE PRICE OF THE HOME UP FRONT. THAT'S THE SIMPLE REALITY OF IT.

RIGHT? AND SO A HOME BUYER HAS THAT OPTION IF THEY WANT IT TO, EVEN IF THE CD WERE THERE.

BUT IF THE CD IS NOT THERE, THEN WE HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THE PRICE OF THE HOME.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE FINANCING THE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY, I MEAN, THAT'S THE NATURE OF HOME BUILDING, RIGHT? WE PUT THE COSTS INTO THE GROUND AND THEN WE GET REPAID FOR IT.

WHEN SOMEBODY PURCHASES A HOME, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT IS THAT PERSON PAYING FOR THE HOME? AND HERE WE HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE TO ACTUALLY LESSEN THE COST FOR THEM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAN IF THEY WERE TO PAY FOR IT ALL UP FRONT.

OKAY. SAY THE HOMEOWNER PURCHASE THAT HOME AT 800 K.

GOD FORBID. WE HAVE, LIKE 2008 WHEN WE HAD THE GREAT RECESSION AND THE VALUE OF THE HOME, YOU KNOW, YOU SELL IT AT THE HIGH PRICE AND THE VALUE OF THE HOME GOES DOWN.

WHAT HAPPENS? SO YOU GET YOUR MONEY AT 800,000 AND THEN SAY A YEAR LATER THE HOME GOES DOWN TO GOD FORBID, GOD FORBID, 350,000. WHAT HAPPENS? THE CD STAYS IN PLACE.

I MEAN, GOD FORBID I HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT SORT OF SCENARIO EVER AGAIN, BUT THE CD STAYS IN PLACE.

BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

ACTUALLY, IN THIS CASE, IF A HOME BUYER WOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING, LET'S USE THE $80,000 THAT YOU MENTIONED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT HIGH, THEY WOULD HAVE PAID

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RIGHT? SO NOW THEY WENT FROM 880 TO WHAT WAS THE NUMBER YOU USED? 350. SEE.

NO, YOU GET THE 880.

YOU GUYS SELL THE HOMES 335 HOMES AT 880, YOU MAKE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

YOU KNOW, YOU WALK AWAY, YOU KNOW, FLYING AT A G5 OR WHATEVER.

CORPORATE COMPANIES FLYING TODAY, NO JETS, BUT AND AND YOU GET THE MONEY.

BUT THEN THE RESIDENT WHO'S GOING TO BE COMPLAINING THAT THEIR HOME IS NOT WORTH 350,000, ISN'T DOESN'T THEIR TAX BILL REMAIN THE SAME FOR THE CD? YEAH. THE IT'S REPAID ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THEY EITHER HAD IT IN THEIR MORTGAGE AT $880,000 AND THEY'RE PAYING MORE FOR IT, OR THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT THROUGH THEIR CD AT A LOWER COST.

SO YES, IT STAYS OUTSTANDING.

NO DIFFERENT THAN A MORTGAGE WOULD STAY OUTSTANDING.

SO SAME THING. SO YOU OPM, OPM THEM AND THEN THEY'RE STUCK WITH THE BILL.

I DEFINITELY DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY.

IT'S NOT USING THEIR MONEY.

WE'RE USING THEIR MONEY.

IF YOU WANT TO TREAT IT AS THAT, WHETHER IT IS PAID FOR IN THE PRICE UP FRONT, RIGHT AT A HIGHER NUMBER, OR IT'S THROUGH A CD WHICH ALLOWS IT TO BE A LOWER NUMBER, BUT NO MONEY COMES OUT OF YOUR POCKET.

YOU CAN GO TRADITIONAL FINANCE, AND YOU CAN GO TO SUNTRUST AND BORROW 28 MILLION AND PAY 7%, AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT, OR YOU HAVE TO SERVICE THAT EVERY YEAR.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, BY THE WAY. WE HAVE TO SERVICE THE CD WHEN IT'S IN PLACE FOR THE TIME THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE PAYING UNDER THE CD AS WELL, BUT FOR THE SAME REASON WE LIKE IT BECAUSE THE RATE IS 5% INSTEAD OF 7% IS WHY OUR ULTIMATE HOME BUYERS WOULD LIKE IT, BECAUSE THE RATE IS 5% AND NOT 7%.

WE HAVE THAT OPTION. YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THAT GOES BACK TO, I THINK, YOUR QUESTION WHERE YOU SAID, HOW WOULD YOU FINANCE THIS DEVELOPMENT IF A CD WERE NOT IN PLACE, WE'D GO TO A SUNTRUST LIKE BANK, WHICH THEY DON'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE. TRUIST I THINK I SAID THEM EARLIER.

SO ANYHOW, WE'D GO TO THEM AND WE'D FINANCE THE PROJECT, BUT IT WOULD BE AT A HIGHER COST.

AND WHAT IS A DEVELOPER, NOT A NOT FOR PROFIT, RIGHT.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? WE NEED TO EARN OR GET A RETURN ON OUR MONEY.

WE NOW ARE EXTENDING MORE MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR MORE IN RETURN.

THAT'S WHERE THE PRICE OF THE HOME HAS TO GO UP.

IF WE BORROW FROM A SUNTRUST LIKE BANK AS OPPOSED TO A CD, NO, IT'S THE SAME LIKE WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT.

AS AN EVENTUAL PURCHASER OF WE BOTH ARE RECOGNIZING BENEFIT BY WAY OF THE CD AND THAT IT IS A LESS COSTLY FORM OF FINANCING.

NO, I GET IT, I GET IT. I WENT TO BUSINESS SCHOOL.

I UNDERSTAND THE FINANCING, BY THE WAY.

I KNOW YOU DO. I'M MAKING IT CLEAR JUST FOR EVERYBODY.

BUT WHEN I'M SITTING HERE, I'M REPRESENTING THE RESIDENTS.

SO I TAKE OFF THAT BUSINESS SCHOOL HAT AND I FIGHT FOR THE RESIDENTS, AND I'M GOING TO FIGHT FOR MY FUTURE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CALLING ME BECAUSE I TEND TO BE THERE FOR A LONG TIME. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE CALLING ME.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M INCLINED TO, NOT TO SUPPORT THIS.

COMMISSIONER. DAN. COMMISSIONER.

DANIEL. THANK YOU.

I WANT TO I WANT YOUR BUSINESS TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

PLEASE KNOW I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I WANT YOU TO MAKE MONEY.

I WISH I HAD YOUR BUSINESS SENSE.

MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE IT TO ME.

OKAY. LET'S TALK, BUT LET ME CLARIFY.

I KNOW YOU CANNOT GET A MORTGAGE UNLESS THE HOUSE IS AT THAT APPRAISED VALUE.

SO WHAT ARE THE 80,000? IS ADDED TO A MORTGAGE OR NOT? THE HOUSE HAS TO BE APPRAISED AT THAT VALUE.

BASED ON WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONER SAID.

SO THERE'S NO WAY A PERSON GOING TO BUY THE HOUSE UNLESS IT'S APPRAISED AT THAT VALUE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? IT GOES UP OR DOWN.

THAT'S A RISK WE ALL TAKE, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. THE CD SHOULDN'T FACTOR IN ULTIMATELY TO THOSE APPRAISALS.

AND LOOK, AGAIN, I HAVE GREAT COMFORT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SELL THE HOMES AT THE NUMBERS THAT I AGREE.

I UNFORTUNATELY BOLTON IS NOT RIGHT.

I WISH I WAS $700,000 AN INVESTOR.

BUT THAT BEING SAID TOO, IF SOMEONE HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY CASH, THE $6,000 DOESN'T MATTER.

DOESN'T. RIGHT? SO EITHER WAY, I THINK WE'RE FINE.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE PRO-BUSINESS, BUT ANTI-BUSINESS.

IN PREVIOUS COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENTS, WE SAY THAT, WE WANT THE BUSINESS.

WE NEED THE BUSINESSES.

WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THE BUSINESSES.

BUT WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST IN THEIR INTEREST BECAUSE THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY'RE IN BUSINESS IS TO MAKE MONEY.

JUST AS AS A MOM AND POP SHOP.

NO DIFFERENT.

WE DON'T SUPPORT IT FOR WHATEVER REASON.

AND I THINK THERE'S SOME.

SOME. DISCONNECTION THERE.

WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S WITH POULTRY, WHETHER IT'S 13TH FLOOR, WHETHER IT'S LENNAR OR WHOEVER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FEW MORE PROJECTS COMING THROUGH, AND I HOPE WE GIVE THEM THE SAME, RESPECT OR LACK THEREOF WHEN QUESTIONING

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ULTIMATELY, IT IS THE BUYER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SIGN THE DOCUMENTS OR NOT SIGN THE DOCUMENTS.

IT IS A BUYER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BUY OR NOT BUY THAT HOME.

THEY'RE COMING IN KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING.

THEY KNOW THEIR OWN BUDGET.

AND FOR US TO DICTATE ON HOW THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO WHAT MECHANISM THEY WILL USE TO, FINANCE THEIR PROJECT. IT'S A BIT, YOU KNOW, CONCERNING TO ME WHEN WE'RE PRO BUSINESS.

SO I JUST WANT THAT FOR THE RECORD.

AND SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT, IF THAT'S OKAY.

ACTUALLY, SCOTT JUST REMINDED ME OF, OF OF A COMPONENT OF THIS WHICH ACTUALLY RELATES TO AND TO YOUR POINT, THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO A CD AND WHAT AGAIN, WE SEE AND I BELIEVE IS THE CASE, IS THE BENEFIT OF A CD.

SO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE ECONOMICS OF IT AND WHY THAT INURES TO THE BENEFIT OF BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND ULTIMATELY THE HOME BUYER.

BUT ONE OF THE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT COMPONENTS ABOUT A CD RELATES TO THE UPKEEP OF A COMMUNITY IN COMMISSIONER.

RIGHT? YOU USE THE EXAMPLE OF THE GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS AND HOMES GOING DOWN IN VALUE.

AND LOOK, OUR BUSINESS STARTED AROUND THAT TIME, AND I MEAN, IT WAS A PRETTY SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS AS YOU DROVE THROUGH SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY ONLY HAD AN HOA IN PLACE, WHAT HAPPENS? EVERYBODY STOPS PAYING THEIR DUES.

MOLD STARTS TO GROW ON THE BUILDINGS.

THE GRASS ISN'T MAINTAINED.

HOMES ARE A VERY UNCERTAIN FORM OF COLLECTION WITHIN A COMMUNITY.

A CD, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT'S LEVIED ON THE TAX ROLL, IS A NEAR CERTAIN.

I THINK IT'S LIKE 99% COLLECTION RATE BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME AS TAXES.

YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TAXES.

THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE WHO'S GOING TO BUY THAT TAX CERTIFICATE AND FUND THE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WHERE THIS MATTERS, PARTICULARLY TO YOUR RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE WOODLANDS, IS ALL OF THAT COMMON AREA.

REMEMBER, WE'VE GOT 100 SOMETHING I FORGET HOW MANY ACRES, 100 SOMETHING ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND A BUNCH OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED BY, HOPEFULLY THE CD THAT EVERY YEAR IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED TO THE HIGHEST STANDARD POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT IS GETTING FUNDED EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT THERE'S A GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMING UP, AND I HOPE THAT ULTIMATELY HERE THE HOA IS PROSPERING AND EVERYTHING IS FINE.

BUT GOD FORBID SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOES HAPPEN.

THIS CD IS A MUCH BETTER MECHANISM TO ENSURE THAT THAT COMMUNITY STAYS LOOKING VERY NICE.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD WITH SOME RESIDENTS IN THE WOODLANDS OF, HEY, THERE'S A BIG OPEN SPACE BEHIND MY HOUSE.

WHO'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINING THIS? HOW AM I GOING TO HAVE COMFORT THAT YOUR HOA IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TAKING CARE OF THIS? AND THAT'S WHAT THE CD PROVIDES.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT PERFECT LEAD IN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK THIS COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND I LIVE THERE I'M THERE ALMOST 30 YEARS JULY 4TH.

I'VE LIVED THERE THROUGH 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012.

HAVE YOU GUYS OWNED YOUR HOME AND HAVE YOU LIVED THROUGH AN HOA OR A KOA THAT'S HAD TO PAY FOR EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR WHO HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO FINANCIALLY AFFORD THE UPKEEP OF THEIR HOMES? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I HAVE.

SO MY HOMEOWNERS IN EVERY MONTH HAS GONE UP, AND WE'RE STILL WHEN THEY GO TO FORECLOSURE AND THEY'RE IN A SHORT SALE, THE COMMUNITY OWES SOME HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND THE HOA. THEY ONLY GET A ONE YEAR.

THAT'S ALL THEY GET. SO SOMEBODY YOUR NEIGHBOR WHO HASN'T PAID THEIR MONTHLY AMOUNTS, YOUR ASSOCIATION FOR TWO, THREE, FIVE, SEVEN YEARS, WHO'S PAYING THAT? YOU ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS MONEY, THIS $28 MILLION INFRASTRUCTURE HAS GONE INTO IS TO THE PROMISES MADE TO THE 890 HOMES IN THAT COMMUNITY.

THAT SAID, WE ARE GOING TO FIX THE ROADS, WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE FLOODING IN THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE GATES.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE SECURITY.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LANDSCAPING AND THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ASKED FOR.

WHO'S GOING TO PAY IT? SECTION NINE IS GOING TO PAY IT.

WELL, HOW DO WE HAVE THIS CONFIDENCE, A CD, BECAUSE I'M NOT EXACTLY THE HUGEST FAN OF A CD, BUT I GET IT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

WOODLANDS COMMUNITY HAS HAD THE ONE ID POURED FORTH, ESPECIALLY BY SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING ABOUT THINGS.

THEY'RE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT IT UP TO THE CITY AND ASKED US TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO PAY FOR THINGS LIKE THE GATING AND WHATNOT.

THE CURRENT RESIDENTS HAVE NOT WANTED TO PAY.

THEREFORE, WE HAVE A MECHANISM TO KNOW THAT IT WILL ALWAYS BE PAID, WHETHER ON THE TAX BILL OR IF THEY DECIDE TO BUY IT THROUGH SOME CONVENTIONAL FINANCING.

THAT'S A BUSINESS DECISION.

WE'RE SITTING HERE SAYING, WE'RE SO WORRIED ABOUT PROTECTING FUTURE PEOPLE, AND I KNOW THERE'S A PERSON WATCHING WHO MIGHT BE A FUTURE BUYER.

THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST YOU.

BUT IF YOU COME INTO THE CITY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE BUYING.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE FRONT DOOR.

WHEN YOU GO FOR THAT TOUR, YOU ARE FULLY AWARE AND YOU KNOW WHAT?

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SO WHEN YOU DO DECIDE TO SELL, YOU'LL HAVE THAT ABILITY TO SELL.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN BERMUDA CLUB, WE HAVE PEOPLE IN LYME BAY.

THEY'RE PAYING OVER $500 A MONTH RIGHT NOW ANYWAY, AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING THE SAME PROTECTIONS THAT THE CDC BOARD WILL DO.

IT GIVES THEM A LEGISLATIVE BODY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GRASS IS ALWAYS CUT.

THE WATER IS ALWAYS CLEAN.

THE CANALS ARE ALWAYS MAINTAINED, SOMETHING THAT WE IN THE WOODLANDS DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE EIGHT DIFFERENT SECTIONS.

AND I'M SORRY, BUT AS ONE OF MY SECTIONS OR TWO OF THE SECTIONS, I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO SECTION NINE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS BEING DONE, BECAUSE SECTION NINE IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE THINGS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS HOME BUYERS PAY WHEN CULVER'S IS BUILT, WHEN RAISING CANE'S IS BUILT, DON'T YOU THINK THE PRICE OF CONSTRUCTION IS GOING INTO THAT HAMBURGER OR THE CHICKEN? LET'S BE REALISTIC.

CONSUMER ALWAYS PAYS.

IT'S JUST THE UNEDUCATED CONSUMER KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR.

WOODMONT. THE PROPERTIES WENT UP.

IT DOESN'T HAVE A CD.

THEIR HOA. MAY THEIR THINGS BE GREAT, BUT THEIR VALUES ARE GOING UP.

SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING INTO THE CITY.

FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SAY, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO TAMARAC BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORTH 800,000 OR $1 MILLION, GUESS WHAT? PEOPLE ARE PAYING IT.

PEOPLE ARE EVEN STARTING TO PAY IT IN THE WOODLANDS NOW.

THEY'VE BEEN PAYING IT IN WOODMONT.

IT HAS ALSO HELPED THE VALUES OF OTHER COMMUNITIES.

ACTUALLY, THE CD IN CENTRAL PARK, MANOR PARK AND HIDDEN TRAILS.

YOUR VALUES HAVE BEEN SO WONDERFUL.

I THANK YOU BECAUSE YOUR VALUES ARE THE REASON WHY THE WOODLANDS VALUES HAVE GONE UP, BECAUSE YOUR PROPERTIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MAINTAINED.

NOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HOA THAT MIGHT BE THERE, IT'LL BE FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL LANDSCAPING, YOUR OWN PERSONAL CABLE IF YOU HAVE IT, YOUR OWN PERSONAL SPRINKLERS, YOUR OWN PERSONAL, WHATEVER IT IS TO YOUR HOME WILL BE THE HOA.

THAT IS A DIFFERENCE WITH THE HOA AND THE CD.

THE CD IS FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF SECTION NINE IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE WOODLANDS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THE WOODLANDS HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION IS NOT A MASTER PROPERTY ASSOCIATION, IT IS A BUSINESS COMMUNITY SECTION THAT HELPS REGULATE THE COSTS OF THE LANDSCAPING.

I'M GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH, SO YOU'LL ADD THE NEXT TWO MINUTES, THE LANDSCAPING AND THE SECURITY AND THE EXTERMINATOR, IF THEY STILL DO IT.

AND THE CABLE THEY USED TO DO IT, THEY DON'T DO IT NOW BECAUSE CABLE WANTS 100% OF THE NUMBERS.

IF YOU GET A PACE LOAN AND YOU PUT IN WINDOWS INTO YOUR HOUSE, YOU DON'T PAY IT ALL AT ONE TIME.

YOU LIKE PUTTING IT ON YOUR TAX BILL BECAUSE YOU LIKE THE DEFERRED COST AND YOU LIKE THE CHEAPER INTEREST THAT IS ON THERE.

AND IF YOU SHOULD SELL YOUR HOME, GUESS WHAT? THE NEXT PERSON BUYS IT, AND THE NEXT PERSON BUYS IT WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING THE BENEFIT OF IT AT THAT TIME.

I. WAS NOT SO SURE HOW I FELT TO SOME OF THIS, BUT YOU'VE MADE ME MUCH MORE CONFIDENT THAT THE CD IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO TO PROTECT THE CURRENT SECTION ONE THROUGH EIGHT OF THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY, THERE'S A HOMEOWNER THAT HAS ASKED ME HOMEOWNERS WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE PAYING FOR THESE COSTS TWICE, FIRST WITH THE PURCHASE PRICE OF A HOME AND SECOND THROUGH A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.

I WOULD LIKE YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHOMEVER WANTS TO ANSWER, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DEVELOPER OR IF IT'S YOURSELF.

BUT TOGETHER THEY WANT THE FINANCING MAXIMUM.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL WIND UP BEING PAID TWICE, FIRST WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE THE HOME AND SECOND THROUGH THE NON-AD VALOREM SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS.

CAN YOU? THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO.

AND WHY? CLEARLY. AND THE REASON WHY THE ANSWER IS NO IS THE ESTIMATED $28 MILLION FOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CD THAT IS SEPARATE FROM WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAYING AS A PURCHASE PRICE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS THE BUILDING OF THE HOUSE.

AND I'D HAVE TO LET THE DEVELOPER EXPLAIN THAT PORTION OF IT.

BUT AS TO THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE CD IS FINANCED, YOU'RE NOT PAYING THAT THROUGH THE HOUSE ON YOUR PURCHASE PRICE OF THE HOUSE.

SO THAT'S WHY THE ANSWER IS NO.

THANK YOU. AS WAS SAID, IF YOUR TAX BILL IS NOT PAID, SOMEONE WILL ULTIMATELY PAY IT.

SO MAYBE DUE IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH.

YOU DON'T PAY IT BY MAY.

IT GOES TO A TAX DEED SALE.

SOMEONE'S GOING TO BUY IT.

SOMEONE BUYS TWO IN A ROW OR TWO DIFFERENT YEARS.

IT GOES FOR ITS MECHANISM.

IT WILL CLEAR OUT THAT MORTGAGE.

IT'LL BE SOLD TO SOMEBODY WHO WILL WANT TO USE IT.

BUT I REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO LOOK UP CENTRAL PARK, MANOR PARK AND HIDDEN TRAILS TO SEE HOW MANY OF THEM ARE IN JEOPARDY OF THAT.

BUT THIS IS CLEAR DISCLOSURE.

IT'S PAID ON A MONTHLY BASIS IF THEY'RE HAVING A MORTGAGE, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT HAVING A MORTGAGE, THEN THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ALL THIS.

THEY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY THAT THE $6,000 IS BUPKUS TO THEM, BUT THEY'RE PAYING IT EVERY MONTH LIKE THEY'RE PAYING THE HOA ON THEIR MORTGAGE BILL.

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AS IT STANDS, YOU ARE BASICALLY JEOPARDIZING THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THE SUCCESS OF SECTION NINE SUCCESS.

BUT YOU'RE ALSO SAYING TO SECTIONS ONE THROUGH EIGHT.

YOUR COMMUNITY IS SUBJECT TO LOOK LIKE CRAP, BECAUSE WE CAN'T NECESSARILY BE CERTAIN THAT SECTION NINE ASSOCIATIONS, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT SO PERFECT, WHICH IS WHY THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF LEGISLATION GOING ON IN MANAGEMENT GOING ON AND LAWSUITS GOING ON.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE TO INCREASE AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLACE IS MAINTAINED PRISTINELY AS IT SHOULD BE, AND HAS BEEN PROMISED TO THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY, WHICH GOT OUR VOTE. DID YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING? I'M JUST DONE WITH COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE TIME LIMITS.

I WASN'T SURE, I JUST I DO WANT TO.

I WANT TO CLOSE IF THAT'S OKAY WHEN THE TIME COMES.

IT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON, WHICH TAKES TWO MINUTES.

YES. TWO MINUTES.

SO WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE COST, THE COST, THE COST OF THE HIGH COST OF THE LOWER COST, WITH THE HIGHER COST IS NOT TO THE RESIDENTS, IT IS TO THE DEVELOPER.

WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE, TAKE MUNICIPAL, WHETHER OR NOT YOU TAKE BONDS, THE LOWER RATE OR YOU TAKE CONVENTIONAL LOANS. THOSE ARE THE COST.

THE THE COST OF A HOME CAN ALWAYS BE REFINANCED.

SO IF SOMEBODY BUYS A HOME FOR $800,000 VERSUS $880,000, AND SOME DAY, BY SOME REASON OF WHATEVER, THEY CANNOT PAY FOR THEIR HOUSE AND THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO REFINANCE, THEY CAN REFINANCE THE HOUSE, THEY GET A LOWER PAYMENT.

BUT IF THEY HAVE A $800,000 HOUSE WITH A CD, THE CD DOES NOT GO AWAY.

THEY HAVE TO PAY THAT CD IN FOR 30 YEARS OR SELL.

THEY CAN REFINANCE. AND THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN CENTRAL PARK AND MENLO PARK AND HIDDEN TRAILS.

SO YOU ARE STUCK.

SO? SO YES, THE WOODLANDS WERE PROMISED, $28 MILLION OF, OF, IMPROVEMENTS OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT.

IT JUST MEANS THAT DEVELOPER IS GOING TO PAY THE COST THROUGH CONVENTIONAL LOANS.

AND AND LISTEN, IF, IF, IF I'M BUYING A $1 MILLION HOME, IT MEANS I CAN AFFORD TO PAY THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT HOA FEE TO MAINTAIN MY HOUSE.

IF I'M GOING TO BUY A $1 MILLION HOME, IT MEANS THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH PRIDE IN TAKING CARE OF MY PROPERTY THAT I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE BESIDE A SLUM AND OR AND HAVE MY HOUSE A SLUM, OR I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE MY HOUSE A SLUM AND LIVE BEHIND A BESIDE A PALACE.

I'M GOING TO TAKE CARE OF MY HOUSE.

THAT'S THE NATURE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

SO I'M VERY HEATED AND PASSIONATE DISCUSSION OBVIOUSLY, AND WE KNEW THAT IT WOULD BE.

WE HAD ATTEMPTED TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF YOU PREVIOUSLY, DECIDED THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON THAT EVENING AND DECIDED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BY ITSELF, AND I'M GLAD WE DID, BECAUSE WE GOT OUT AN HOUR OR TWO EARLIER THAN WE WOULD HAVE AT THAT LAST MEETING.

THAT SAID, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF SPLIT AMONGST ALL OF YOU, AND WE SEE AND I THINK THERE'S PLUSES AND MINUSES EVEN AMONGST ALL FIVE OF YOU ON THE DAIS AS IT RELATES TO THE CD IN SOME RESPECTS.

NO ONE'S SAYING THAT THERE'S NOT A BENEFIT TO THE DEVELOPER IN THIS.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPART ON, ON ALL OF YOU IS THAT THERE'S A BENEFIT TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.

THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THE DEVELOPER, THERE'S A BENEFIT TO FUTURE HOME BUYERS.

THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THE EXISTING 892 HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE CD.

I'M SORRY, WITHIN THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY FOR SOME OF THE SAME REASONS AND FOR SOME DIFFERENT REASONS.

OBVIOUSLY, THE FUTURE HOMEOWNERS AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTS WITHIN THE OVERALL COMMUNITY SEE THAT LONG TERM BENEFIT AND PROTECTIONS OF HAVING A CD.

I THINK THE MAYOR REALLY SAID IT BEST IN TERMS OF US PUTTING A LOT OF COMMITMENT TOWARD.

AND WE HAVE AND WE ARE, AND WE'RE GOING TO LIVE UP TO THEM COMMISSIONER BOLTON ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

ALL OF THOSE DOLLARS THAT WE SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO FROM DAY ONE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND EVERYTHING ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT THERE DOES COME A POINT IN TIME, NO MATTER WHAT, WHERE 13TH FLOOR OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPER WITHIN THE CITY IS NO LONGER THERE AROUND.

NOW, I WILL POINT THIS OUT AS IT RELATES TO 13TH FLOOR.

WE STILL GET CALLS FROM FROM SOME OF YOU, FROM YOUR STAFF, FROM OTHER RESIDENTS WITHIN MAINLAND, SIX AND SEVEN AND FOUR TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AT TIMES.

AND WE'VE BEEN OUT OF THOSE THREE COMMUNITIES FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

SO I THINK IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER, UNLIKE SOME OTHERS, MAYBE DOESN'T JUST FLY OFF INTO THE SUNSET.

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AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT I THINK IS TO SOME EXTENT MISSING FROM THE FINANCIAL CONVERSATION.

SO HERE HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK OF THE COMMISSION.

IT'S THERE IS A FINANCIAL DISCUSSION BY, COMMISSIONER, YOU OUT.

YOU CALLED UP YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR TO ASK HER TO RUN SOME NUMBERS AND SOME QUESTIONS.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO POTENTIALLY POSTPONE THIS A LITTLE BIT AND ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY RUN THE MATH ON REAL NUMBERS? WE'RE HAPPY TO COME MEET WITH ANYONE AT THE CITY, YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR OR OTHERWISE TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL SO IT CAN BE MAYBE BETTER UNDERSTOOD, BECAUSE IT DOES SOUND LIKE THERE'S AND AGAIN, LOOK, THE MATH ON OUR SIDE AND THE MATH THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DURING THE COURSE OF THE LAST HOUR AND A HALF, IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND ON THE FLY. I STILL HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING IT.

THAT'S NOT MY STRONG SUIT.

THAT'S WHY I BECAME AN ATTORNEY.

BUT I MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE IF THEIR CONSENSUS IS NOT THERE TO PASS THIS TODAY TO DO ONE OF TWO THINGS.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S FIRST READING.

IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SECOND READING.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THE SLIPPERY SLOPE WITH YOU ALL MOVING FORWARD WITH A VOTE TONIGHT OR TODAY.

SO MY SUGGESTION, IF IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT CONSENSUS IS THERE, RATHER THAN KILLING THIS ON THE FLY, MIGHT BE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, MIKE STOOD UP HERE FOR A WHILE, GINGER AS WELL, AND TRIED TO EXPLAIN THERE ARE FINANCIAL BENEFITS TO THE FUTURE HOME BUYERS WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY FROM A CD.

MAYBE WE CAN DISSECT THOSE FURTHER.

SHOW THEM TO YOU ON A COUPLE OF SLIDES, HELP EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND IF AT THE END OF THE DAY, NO ONE'S CONVINCED, SO BE IT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY LOSE ANYTHING BY GIVING THAT TIME TO POTENTIALLY COME BACK AND SEE THIS COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE.

AGAIN, WE WE WOULD LOVE A VOTE TODAY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

JUST PUTTING OUT IDEAS IN THE EVENT THAT THIS, THIS LAST HOUR AND A HALF OR SO WAS NOT ENOUGH TO REALLY APPROPRIATELY EDUCATE ON ON THE BENEFITS FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS.

SO THANK YOU. MOTION TABLED TO SUCH TIME CERTAIN THAT THE DEVELOPER OR THE APPLICANT IS ABLE TO COME BACK WITH MORE DETAILED INFORMATION. I'M NOT RECEIVING A SECOND.

CITY CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

I'LL DO A SECOND QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

IF IF WE IF WE VOTE NO TODAY.

CAN CAN IT ALSO COME BACK? AND THIS IS THIS IS A FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT THE APPLICATION.

YOU COULD ALWAYS BRING IT BACK, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND, IF THE COMMISSION NEED MORE TIME, JUST DEFER IT AND ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK, MEET WITH YOU GUYS INDIVIDUALLY.

ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.

AND AND THEN BLESS YOU.

SO IF WE VOTE NO.

PROCEDURALLY. WE CALL THE ROW WE WERE ON ROW CALL.

THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

THE MAYOR RECOGNIZED HIM TO SPEAK.

THIS QUESTIONS.

THE ROLE HAD NOT JUST BEEN STARTED.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

LET THE QUESTIONS BE ANSWERED, PLEASE.

SO IF WE IF IF WE VOTE NO, WE CAN COME BACK.

THIS IS A FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE.

YES. YOU COULD ALWAYS BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE IF YOU VOTE NO.

BUT AGAIN I WOULD.

I AM GOING TO ASK A POINT OF ORDER ON THIS ONE.

I THOUGHT THAT YOU DON'T.

YOU HAVE A TWO YEAR WAIT.

NO, THAT'S ON A SITE PLAN APPLICATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

BUT AGAIN I WOULD.

STRONGLY SUGGESTS A DEFERRAL AND ALLOW MORE TIME TO FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMISSION.

OKAY. SO SO IF.

IF WE ARE, IF WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR RESIDENTS.

AND, COMMISSIONER.

BOLTON ALSO.

STAFF CAN ALSO, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH A DEFERRAL, IF BASED ON COMMUNICATION WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ONE ON ONE, THEY CAN ALWAYS PULL THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT WAS AN ORDINANCE DRIVEN BY STAFF.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO STAFF CAN PULL THEIR THEIR OWN ITEM.

CORRECT. I'LL ASK AGAIN FOR A MOTION TO SECOND.

CAN COMMISSIONER BOLTON NOT COMMUNICATE VIA TELEPORTING TO THE CITY MANAGER, PLEASE? AND I STILL HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.

WHAT HAPPENED? WELL, I'M LOOKING AT YOU.

TALKING TO HIM TO PULL UP.

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OKAY, WELL, YOU CAN'T PULL AN ITEM ONCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN STARTED.

IT WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE THAT IF AN ITEM CAME ON THE AGENDA, IT COULD BE PULLED, BUT NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A DISCUSSION.

THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PULL AN ITEM IN THE MIDDLE OF A DISCUSSION.

SO I STILL HAVE A POINT OF ORDER.

I'M. I'M MAKING REFERENCE.

IT REFERS GRANUM.

THANK YOU. HELLO? HELLO. OKAY, WELL, IF DEFERRAL IS GRANTED, WHICH GIVE THE APPLICANT OBVIOUSLY TIME TO ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED TODAY AND THROUGH COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS, IF THE COMMISSION IS NOT READY TO PROCEED, THEY CAN, THE MANAGER, SINCE HE HE PLACED ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, HE CAN WITHDRAW IT IF THAT'S MY EXPECTATION.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS YOUR POINT, WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION.

CAN YOU WHO FROM HERE IN THE COMMISSION DID YOU MEET WITH PRIOR TO THIS MEETING? NO, BUT I COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS NOT.

THIS IS NOT IN FURTHERANCE OF THE TOPIC THAT IS AT HAND.

YOU ASKED YOUR QUESTIONS. NO, IT IS NOT.

THAT'S NOT A POINT OF ORDER.

OKAY. SO I'LL STICK TO THE POINT.

I THINK TO THE POINT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPER PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.

EVERYBODY IS SET ON THEIR VOTE.

THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO EXPLAIN.

WE JUST SPENT AN HOUR AND A HALF THEN COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YOU CAN VOTE WHEN THE MOTION'S DONE OR.

RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS THIS.

WE'RE BEATING A DEAD HORSE HERE.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS. THANK YOU.

I WILL REITERATE THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS CONVERSATION UNTIL A TIME CERTAIN WHEN THE DEVELOPER HAS THE PAPERWORK AND IT IS DEEMED THAT IT IS READY TO COME BACK ON THE RECORD.

SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND.

MOTION TO TABLE COMES BEFORE THE PRIOR MOTION.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

BUT THE PREVIOUS MOTION.

AND WE'RE ON A ROLL CALL, SO WE HAVE TO PLAY THAT FIRST.

NO YOU DON'T. A MOTION TO TABLE ALWAYS TRUMPS.

EXCUSE ME. NOT TRYING TO BE POLITICAL.

IT IS A WORD.

WE WERE IN ROLL CALL.

BUT NO, BUT THEN.

NO, I HAD NOT. SHE HAD NOT STARTED THE ROLL CALL.

YOU CAN'T GET IT BOTH WAYS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE CONVERSATION AND STOP THE ROLL CALL.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND, A MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THE MOTION IS TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL A TIME CERTAIN.

WHEN THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE THE REQUIRED RESEARCH AND DILIGENCE TO MEET WITH THOSE WHO NEED TO BE MET WITH.

IT COULD BE, BUT NOT REQUIRING ALL OF US, AND THEN DISCUSSES IT WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

AND THE CITY MANAGER IS READY TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

WE'RE READY FOR YOU, MADAM CLERK.

WHEN YOU ARE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

MAYOR. GOMEZ. YES.

COMMISSIONER. VILLALOBOS.

NO. VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT. NO.

COMMISSIONER. DANIEL.

YES. COMMISSIONER.

BOLTON. NO.

ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO TABLE FAILS.

NOW, PLEASE CALL THE INITIAL.

THE ORIGINAL ROLL.

ORIGINAL MOTION. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT MOTION, MADAM CLERK? FOR THE RECORD, IT'S.

WE ARE ON THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.

IT IS A MOTION ON I'VE, AN ORDINANCE ON THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE WOODLAND SECTION NINE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS REGARDING THE DISTRICT, DESCRIBING THE EXTERNAL BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT.

NAMING FIVE PERSONS DESIGNATED TO BE THE INITIAL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

COMMISSIONER. VILLALOBOS.

YES. VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT. NO.

I'M SORRY, VICE MAYOR. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

NO. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DANIEL.

NO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

NO. MADAM MAYOR.

GOMEZ. YES.

MOTION FAILS 3D TWO.

ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS CURRENTLY 1130.

WE WILL BE TAKING A 15 MINUTE BREAK.

WE WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE AT 1145 SHARP.

THANK YOU.

[7.a TO2541 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, adopting a large scale local land use plan amendment to the City of Tamarac’s Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map in accordance with Chapter 163, specifically Section 163.3184 of the Florida State Statutes, for said lands situated, lying, and being in Broward County, Florida, and located at or bounded by west Commercial Boulevard to the north, Rock Island Road to the east, NW 64 Avenue to the west and NW 44 Street to the south, and more particularly described in the legal description shown in Exhibit “A” attached hereto, to change the future land use designation of approximately 109.93 gross acres of land within the former Woodlands Country Club golf course from “Commercial Recreation” to “Recreation” to facilitate the reservation of land for community recreation and open space and satisfy condition 1.a of Broward County Land Use Plan Amendment PC20-2 to provide consistency with the Broward County Adopted Future Land Use Plan Map in accordance with the intent of the comprehensive plan of the City of Tamarac; (Case No. 3-LUA-23) authorizing transmittal of the large scale land use map amendment to the Department Of Economic Opportunity and the appropriate reviewing agencies and the Broward County Planning Council for review, approval and recertification of the City of Tamarac Future Land Use Map; providing for amendment to the land use plan to reflect such change; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]

[02:00:47]

OKAY. UP TO ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING 7802541.

CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ITEM SEVEN A AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF CITY TAMARAC ADOPTING A LARGE SCALE LOCAL LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER SIX 163 FOR SAID LAND SITUATED, LYING AND BEING BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AND LOCATED AT OR BOUNDED BY WEST COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH, ROCK ISLAND ROAD TO THE EAST, NORTHWEST FOURTH AVENUE TO THE WEST, NORTHWEST 44TH STREET TO THE SOUTH, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION POLICY 109 EIGHT GROSS ACRES OF LAND WITHIN THE FORMER WOODLANDS CLUB GOLF COURSE, FROM COMMERCIAL RECREATION TO RECREATION, AND FACILITATE THE RESERVATION OF LAND FOR COMMUNITY RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE AND SATISFY CONDITION ONE A OF BROWARD COUNTY LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY WITH BROWARD COUNTY ADOPTED.

FUTURE LAND USE PLAN MAP IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

CITY TAMARAC AUTHORIZING TRANSMITTAL OF THE LARGE SCALE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND APPROPRIATE REVIEWING AGENCY AND BROWARD COUNTY PLANNING COUNCIL FOR REVIEW APPROVAL.

RECERTIFICATION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE PLAN TO REFLECT SUCH CHANGE.

PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

A SECOND BY VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT. THIS IS.

ON SECOND READING.

ACTUALLY, FIRST, SCOTT BACKMAN, THE AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT, HAS A PRESENTATION, THAT CAN BE DELIVERED IF THE COMMISSION SO DESIRES.

[7.b TO2547 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, amending Chapter 10, Article 4 of the City of Tamarac Land Development Code, entitled “Development and Design Standards” by amending specific development and design standards for roadways, sidewalks, bicycle paths, drainage, parking, waste water, storm water, potable water, and irrigation systems, consistent with updated engineering standards; modifying dimensions of alleys, parking stalls, and required paved rights of way, to provide for consistency with the City of Tamarac Engineering Design and Processing manual; updating fire emergency access requirements for guard houses with security locking mechanisms; amending the City’s right-of-way sign provisions to appropriately identify SR 869/Sawgrass Expressway and clarify the permitted location for the installation of billboard signs and their distance separation from residential property; and modifying the height of numerical building addresses on monument signs to enhance visibility and comply with fire code safety standards; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; providing for codification; and providing for an effective date.]

IT'S A SECOND MEETING. SO, AND ALSO MAXINE CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AS THIS IS A.

ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING.

SEEING NONE.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.

UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE COMMISSION.

NOT SEEING ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER. VILLALOBOS.

YES. VICE MAYOR.

RIGHT. YES.

MAYOR. GOMEZ. YES.

COMMISSIONER. DANIEL.

YES. COMMISSIONER.

BOLTON. NO.

THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM IS 7BTO2547.

CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.

ITEM SEVEN B AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

CITY OF TAMARAC AMENDING CHAPTER TEN, ARTICLE FOUR OF THE CITY TAMARAC LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ENTITLED DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS BY AMENDING SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS FOR ROADWAYS, SIDEWALKS, BICYCLE PATHS, DRAINAGE, PARKING, WASTEWATER, STORMWATER, POTABLE WATER, AND IRRIGATION SYSTEM CONSISTENT WITH UPDATED ENGINEERING STANDARDS, MODIFYING DIMENSIONS OF ALLEYS, PARKING STALLS, AND REQUIRE PAVING RIGHTS OF WAY TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

ENGINEERING DESIGN AND PROCESS AND MANUAL UPDATING.

FIRE EMERGENCY ACCESS REQUIREMENTS FOR GUARD HOUSES WITH SECURITY LOCKING MECHANISM.

AMENDING THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY SIGN PROVISION TO PROPERLY IDENTIFY SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY AND CLARIFY THE PERMITTED LOCATION FOR THE INSTALLATION OF BILLBOARD SIGNS AND DISTANCE SEPARATION FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND MODIFYING THE HEIGHT OF NUMERICAL BUILDING ADDRESS ON MONUMENT SIGNS TO ENHANCE VISIBILITY AND COMPLY WITH FIRE CODE SAFETY STANDARDS.

PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS. PROVIDING SEVERABILITY.

PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION.

[10.a Discussion and consensus to direct staff to broaden the scope of service under the ARPA funds and utilize the Rental Gap Assistance allocation to also fund Mortgage Assistance.]

[02:05:01]

I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

MAXINE CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

I'LL OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.

NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.

I HAVE, NOBODY SEEKING QUESTIONS ON THEIR, THEREFORE, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

NO. COMMISSIONER.

DANIEL. YES, MAYOR.

GOMEZ. YES.

VICE MAYOR. RIGHT.

YES, COMMISSIONER.

VILLALOBOS. YES.

THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1.

THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW UP TO OTHER TEN.

A DISCUSSION AND CONSENSUS OR POSSIBLE CONSENSUS TO DIRECT STAFF TO BROADEN THE SCOPE OF SERVICE UNDER A ARPA FUNDS TO UTILIZE RENTAL GAP ASSISTANCE ALLOCATION TO ALSO FUND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.

THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER MARLON BOLTON COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS WE MAY RECALL, SOME TIME AGO, WE DISCUSSED ARPA FUNDS, AND WE PROVIDED SOME DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF TO USE A PORTION OF THE MONEY TOWARD HELPING PEOPLE WITH RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

SO FAR, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN MAKING SURE THAT, RESIDENTS KNOW, ABOUT THE MONEY THAT IS THERE.

BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THE MONEY, IS BEING UTILIZED ENOUGH.

AT THE SAME TIME, NOTWITHSTANDING THAT THE THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO ARE ASKING US FOR ASSISTANCE, TO TAKE CARE OF MORTGAGE PAYMENTS, THEY ARE BEHIND ON THEIR MORTGAGE.

THEY'RE THEY'RE FACED WITH A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES.

AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING TODAY IS THAT WE PROVIDE SOME RELIEF TO RESIDENTS THAT ARE FACED WITH MORTGAGE ISSUES.

AND NOT JUST RENTAL ISSUES.

SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND CONSENSUS TO, DIRECT STAFF TO BROADEN THE SCOPE OF SERVICES.

SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE WHO, HAVE ISSUES WITH PAYING THEIR RENT, CANNOT STILL APPLY.

WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS JUST BROADEN THE SCOPE SO THAT WE INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO, HAVE AN ISSUE WITH PAYING THEIR, THEIR, THEIR MORTGAGE. AND THAT IS THE ITEM, MADAM MAYOR.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE A HEALTHY DISCUSSION TODAY AND COME TO THE CONSENSUS TO, BROADEN THE SCOPE OF SERVICES UNDER THE ARPA FUNDS AND UTILIZE THE RENTAL GAP ASSISTANCE ALLOCATION TO ALSO FUND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF IS PREPARED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE PUT INTO A MONDAY MORNING WORKSHOP SO STAFF CAN PREPARE, BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HELPED TO DATE WITH THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED TO BE PREPARED FOR THIS.

SO, WHERE DO WE STAND? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE ALSO TO BE RECEIVING FROM THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH WE'LL KNOW IN A FEW MONTHS? REGARDING MORTGAGES, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE FINALLY CARVED OUT ALLOCATION FOR RENTERS.

WE'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING FOR RENTERS BEFORE.

WE ALWAYS HAVE THINGS FOR MORTGAGES.

AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MY CONCERN IS TAKING OUT MONEY FROM WHAT WE FINALLY ALLOCATED FOR RENT.

I BELIEVE WE DID NOT FULLY ALLOCATE THE MONEY FROM THE HOMELESS PART, AND I BELIEVE WE DIDN'T FULLY ALLOCATE THE MONEY FOR THE CHARITIES.

IF THAT APPROXIMATELY $100,000 IS AVAILABLE, THEN I WOULD PREFER UTILIZING THAT MONEY TO MORTGAGES, BUT NOT REMOVING THE ABILITY OUT OF THE TWO, OUT OF THE MONEY WE HAVE FOR THE ABILITY TO HELP THE RENTERS BECAUSE RENTERS ARE STILL HURTING.

AS YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD MY COMMENT IN THE LAST SEGMENT, PEOPLE IN BERMUDA CLUB ARE PAYING $500 OR MORE FOR THEIR MONTHLY ASSESSMENTS. PEOPLE IN LYME BAY ARE PAYING CLOSE TO THAT, IF NOT MORE, FOR THEIR ASSESSMENTS.

THEIR CONCORD VILLAGE.

ALL OF OUR ASSOCIATIONS ARE BEING HIT.

AND ACTUALLY, AS YOU'VE HEARD, EVEN OUR HOMES ARE BEING HIT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR CLUBHOUSES, BECAUSE MOST OF THE CITY, THERE'S 180 CLUBHOUSES IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

WE ARE A LOT OF CLUBHOUSES.

THAT MEANS INSURANCE AND IT MEANS INTEREST.

IT MEANS TAXES.

IT MEANS THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE PAID BY THE COMMUNITY.

[02:10:02]

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING ARE BEING BENEFITED BY IT? I'D RATHER NOT TOUCH THE MONEY ALLOCATED ALREADY FOR RENT.

SO WITHOUT HAVING MORE INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN A MONDAY MORNING WORKSHOP WITH ALL THE INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE FOR US TO GO FROM THERE.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, YOUR LIGHT IS LIT.

THANK YOU MAYOR. MY ONLY LIKE I'M NOT AGAINST IT, BUT MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT RENTAL RENTERS OR ANYONE LEASING A PROPERTY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EQUITY IN THEIR HOMES, RIGHT? THEY DON'T OWN IT.

THE MORTGAGE HOLDERS, EVEN IF THEY'RE BEHIND, DO HAVE EQUITY OR SHOULD HAVE EQUITY.

PROBABLY NOT THE ONES THAT BOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, BUT, PRICES ARE STILL GOING UP.

IT DEPENDS ON THE COMMUNITY, OF COURSE.

BUT THEY DO HAVE EQUITY.

SO. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN, IS, DO WE? HOW DO WE GET THAT MONEY BACK? ONCE THEY GET CAUGHT UP.

RIGHT. SO LET'S SAY THEY'RE BEHIND TWO, THREE MORE PAYMENTS.

INSTEAD OF GOING INTO A FORECLOSURE, WE GIVE THEM THE MONEY.

THEY HAVE EQUITY IN THEIR PROPERTY.

OR WE ARE WE RECOVERING THAT MONEY BACK ONCE THEY FIND A JOB OR THEY'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S. BUT FOR RANCHERS IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE YEAR LEASE.

THE SELLER CAN SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO SELL THE PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE TO MOVE AND MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IF THEY'RE BEHIND AND THEY GET AN EVICTION NOTICE, IT GOES ON THEIR RECORD.

A THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARDER TIME TRYING TO FIND SOME A NEW PLACE TO MOVE INTO.

SO. THAT'S MY ONLY THING IS, IS THERE'S CERTAIN COMPONENTS THAT RENTALS HAVE VERSUS MORTGAGES.

OKAY. NO, I'M.

I'M SORRY.

I'M BEING ASKED IF THAT MADE SENSE TO ME.

I THINK THAT THERE WERE SOME.

IF I UNDERSTAND.

I'M NOT SURE I DO. THE MORTGAGE.

THE MORTGAGE HOLDER.

THE MORTGAGE HOLDER HAS A LOT MORE EQUITY AS FAR AS MONEY.

AS FAR AS OPPORTUNITY THAN A RENTER.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO. WHILE I AM OKAY WITH SAYING, HEY, YES, LET'S LET'S ASSIST THE MORTGAGE HOLDER WITH 2 OR 3 PAYMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE BEHIND.

THEY'RE ABOUT TO GET A FORECLOSED FORECLOSURE NOTICE.

IT'S FINE, BUT THEY'RE HOLDING MONEY IN THAT HOUSE.

SO VERSUS THE RENTER THAT HAS NOTHING.

LEFT TO UNDERSTAND.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THE RENTERS.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO.

YOU'RE SAYING THE RENTERS NEED HELP BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING LEFT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY WILL BE FORECLOSED AND ACTUALLY BE EVICTED.

AND THEN ONCE THEY'RE EVICTED, THEY GOES INTO THE COURT SYSTEM AND THE NEXT APPLICATION THEY MAKE, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

SO, YOU KNOW, NO TENANT, NO LANDLORD IS GOING TO ALLOW POSSIBLY A RECENT EVICTION TO MOVE INTO THEIR HOME, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE RENT ASSISTANCE WAS GIVEN.

AND ACTUALLY, IT'S THE LANDLORD WHO'S NOT GETTING THE RENT MONEY, WHICH IS GOING INTO FORECLOSURE BECAUSE THEY NEED THE MORTGAGE PAYMENT.

IF IT'S A LEASE PROPERTY FROM A RIGHT.

AND DEFINITELY IT CANNOT BE A HOME THAT'S BEING RENTED OUT.

SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, LIKE THE.

THE MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE CANNOT BE FOR SOME LANDLORD THAT'S RENTING IT OUT THAT'S BEHIND ON THEIR PAYMENTS.

THAT'S ONE CONDITION THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF.

OKAY. BUT YES, IF WE CAN HAVE THIS IN A WORKSHOP, WOULD BE BETTER.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER.

DOCTOR? YES? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I DO THINK.

A HOMEOWNER IS WAY MORE VESTED THAN A RENTER.

SO I'M NOT CLOSED OFF TO THIS IDEA AT ALL.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S FOR MISS CALLOWAY.

IS THERE ANY AVAILABLE ASSISTANCE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BEHIND IN THEIR MORTGAGE OR LOST THEIR JOB AND THEIR HOME IS IN JEOPARDY? IS THERE CURRENTLY ANYTHING AVAILABLE AND WHAT IS IT IF THERE IS? MAXINE CALLOWAY. FOR THE RECORD, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, NO, THE CITY CURRENTLY HAVE NO FUNDS.

WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS SIX ROUNDS IMMEDIATELY AFTER COVID.

THEY WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN ALL THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN DEPLETED.

[02:15:03]

THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR.

YOU WERE GOING FOR IT. REMEMBER, YOU ARE THE PRESENTER.

YES. AND AS A PRESENTER, I DON'T LOSE MY FIVE MINUTES OR MY TWO MINUTES.

RIGHT? YOU DON'T GET CONTINUAL HOURS.

I DON'T LOSE MY FIVE MINUTES OR MY TWO MINUTES.

RIGHT. FIVE AND TWO MINUTES NOW PRESENTED.

NOW YOU'RE FIVE AND TWO. THAT'S WHAT I'M TAKING.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

OKAY. OKAY.

MISS CALLOWAY. COMMISSIONER.

I BELIEVE IT WAS MAY 2023 THAT WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT ARPA, AND WE, DESIGNATED SOME MONEY FOR TO HELP TO HELP RENTERS.

CORRECT? YES.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND SINCE THEN, HOW MANY RENTERS HAVE APPLIED, IN PREPARATION FOR THIS, THIS ITEM, WE DID POST SOME DATA FOR THE RENTAL GAP PROGRAM.

TO DATE, WE HAVE SPENT $6,015.

WE HAVE ASSISTED TO APPLICANTS.

OKAY. HAVE YOU DONE ANY OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAM? A BIT. WE COULD DO SOME MORE, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS WE COULD.

WE COULD BE DOING.

OKAY. AND HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE LEFT? SO FOR THAT AND JAMES, IF YOU COULD JUST PULL UP WHAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED AND ALSO IN YOUR RESOLUTION IS WHAT YOU DID APPROVE, WHICH IS ALSO SHOWN HERE FOR THE RENTAL GAP ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, $200,000 WAS WHAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED IN MAY.

OKAY. SO WE'RE APPROACHING A YEAR.

WE HAVE $200,000.

WE'VE ONLY EXPENDED 6000.

AND THIS ITEM IS NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD STOP, HELPING RENTERS.

WHAT IT IS SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD EXPAND, WHAT THE MONEY CAN BE USED FOR.

SO IT CAN BE USED FOR RENTAL.

AND IT COULD ALSO BE USED FOR, FOR TO HELP RESIDENTS WITH MORTGAGE ISSUES.

RIGHT. AND WE CAN DO THAT.

OH, THAT'S A QUESTION.

YES YES YES.

IF IF THE COMMISSION. SO DESIRE IF A CONSENSUS IS ACHIEVED WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE RECEIVED INQUIRIES FROM RESIDENTS ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE ON MORTGAGE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO, AND BECAUSE WE WE'RE RECEIVING INQUIRIES SO FAR, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP RIGHT NOW.

AND THEY CANNOT BE HELPED BECAUSE THERE'S NO MONEY AVAILABLE, OBVIOUSLY.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH WHEN I SAW THIS IN MY BACKUP.

AND I SAW IT AS A CITY IN CALIFORNIA CALLED VALENCIA.

THAT'S TAKING THE REMAINING $66,000 IN COVID MONEY AND USING IT FOR RENTAL AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.

TO QUALIFY, EACH PERSON GET A $2,000 GRANT, AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE A JOB AND LIVE WITHIN CITY LIMITS.

INTERESTINGLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS DIVINE OR WHATEVER.

I REMEMBER I WAS RECENTLY TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO SAID TO ME THAT THERE WERE TWO AND A HALF MONTHS BEHIND ON THEIR MORTGAGE.

THEY LOST THEIR JOB.

THEY PURCHASED THEIR HOME LIKE 12 YEARS AGO.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF EQUITY, AND ALL THEY NEEDED WAS LIKE 800 BUCKS MORE JUST TO MAKE ONE PAYMENT TO TO KEEP THEIR HOME FROM GOING IN FORECLOSURE.

SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DISCRIMINATE BASED ON RENTERS OR HOMEOWNERS, HAVING EQUITY IN YOUR HOME, THAT'S THAT'S THE BIGGEST ASSET THAT YOU HAVE AS AN AMERICAN.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE AMERICAN DREAMS. SO I THINK WHAT IT IS, WE SHOULD WORK OUT THE NUANCES OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM IN TERMS OF WHO QUALIFY AND WHAT ARE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.

SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF MAKING IT A RENTAL AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE IN A WORKSHOP AND A STAFF SHOULD LOOK AT THE NUANCES OF WHO QUALIFY AND HOW IT WOULD WORK.

THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S MY THAT'S MY INPUT.

AND WE DO HAVE COMMISSIONER AN ESTABLISHED PROGRAM.

WE HAVE DONE THIS SIX TIMES IMMEDIATELY AFTER COVID.

WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES TO ROLL OUT THIS MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SO WE HAVE DONE IT SIX TIMES.

THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN DEPLETED.

SO WE WOULD MAINTAIN THE SAME STANDARD OR THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE USED.

THE PAST SIX TIMES THAT WE HAVE ROLLED OUT THIS PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE JUST USING THESE THESE FUNDS TO CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM BASICALLY IS WHAT WE'RE THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND THE ITEM WITH THE 200,000, AS OPPOSED TO JUST DOING RENTAL GAP, THAT THESE FUNDS ALSO BE USED TO ASSIST RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT BE BEHIND WITH THEIR MORTGAGES.

[02:20:01]

THAT'S THAT'S A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

YES. SO IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE DELIVERED THAT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, THE COMMISSION MADE SOME CHANGES.

YES. WHICH YOU CAN SEE NOW IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED.

AND THOSE CHANGES ARE REFLECTED HERE.

AND YOU SAID SO FAR ONLY 6% OF THAT MONEY WAS USED.

YOU SAID WE HAVE SPENT $6,015 TO DATE ON TWO APPLICANTS.

WE DO HAVE SOME APPLICATIONS PENDING, BUT WE HAVE BEEN DENYING A LOT OF APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT QUALIFY.

SO TODAY WE HAVE ONLY SPENT 6000.

AND DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE APPLIED FOR LIKE MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE? WE HAVE BEEN, TURNING THEM AWAY.

I GOT I RECEIVED AN EMAIL LAST WEEK.

I RECEIVED AN EMAIL, THE WEEK BEFORE, AND WE HAD TO SAY THAT WE HAVE NO FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THE PROGRAM.

OKAY, OKAY. I THINK PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING.

AND I THINK, HOUSING WITH ITS MORTGAGE OR RENTAL IS A BIG ISSUE WITH PEOPLE LOSING THEIR JOBS.

AND YEAH, I AM IN SUPPORT OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT A RENTAL AND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

MR. DANA. I THINK.

I'M SORRY. I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU THAT THE PROGRAM THAT WE USED BEFORE FOR MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, OBVIOUSLY IT WORKED.

YES, BECAUSE THE FUNDS RAN OUT AND OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE QUALIFIED.

SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR A WORKSHOP.

WE COULD JUST ADOPT, ADAPT WHAT WE HAD BEFORE.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE.

THEY'RE TOO STRICT. I MEAN, ARE THEY TOO STRICT? ARE THEY? NO.

WE GO UP TO 120% OF AMI, WHICH GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.

IT'S A NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 THAT YOU RECEIVE, FOR ASSISTANCE.

AND IT'S A ONE TIME BUT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000.

SO THOSE GUIDELINES WERE ESTABLISHED TOGETHER WITH THE COMMISSION.

AND THOSE ARE THE GUIDELINES WE'VE BEEN USING.

HOW WILL THE MORTGAGE PORTION OF IT BE ABUSED? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR YOUR MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM OR FOR YOUR FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM, IT'S GIVEN ALMOST LIKE, NOT A FULL GRANT.

AND SO IF THE HOME IS SOLD BEFORE YEAR TEN, YOU PAY BACK THE FULL AMOUNT.

AND IF IT'S SOLD AFTER YEAR TEN UP TO YEAR 15, YOU PAY BACK A PORTION.

THIS PROGRAM IS A FULL GRANT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT BECAUSE IT'S NO MORE THAN $5,000.

SO THERE'S NO PAYMENT BACK TO THE CITY.

IT'S GIVEN TO THE RESIDENT AS A 100% GRANT.

SO I CAN FALL BEHIND ON MY PAYMENT.

APPLY FOR IT.

GRAB IT AND NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

THERE IS NO REPAYMENT REQUIREMENT AS A PART OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT YOU DO HAVE REPAYMENT REQUIREMENT AS A PART OF YOUR OTHER PROGRAMS THAT DISPERSE A HIGHER AMOUNT OF FUNDS.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US TO DO IS TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, BECAUSE REMEMBER, THESE MORTGAGE HOLDERS ARE TO HAVE EQUITY. THEY JUST LOST THEIR JOB OR A BIG BILL CAME IN.

BUT FOR US TO GIVE AWAY FREE MONEY AS A GRANT AND THEY'RE SITTING ON $250,000 IN GRANT MONEY, I MEAN, IN EQUITY OR 100,000 IN EQUITY OR 50,000 IN EQUITY.

IT'S A BIT SKETCHY THERE BECAUSE IT WILL BE ABUSED.

I CAN JUST SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, SO AND SO PERSON JUST MOVED OUT OF THE HOUSE, THEN I'M GOING TO APPLY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

YOU SAID TWO APPLICANTS, RECEIVED MONEY IN ONE YEAR OR JUST IN THE LAST.

YEAH. SINCE THE PROGRAM OPEN AND THIS IS FOR THE RENTAL GAP PROGRAM.

WHEN DID THAT OPENED UP? THE LAST ONE? IT OPENED.

IT WAS APPROVED MAY 2023, SO SHORTLY THEREAFTER, AND TWO APPLICANTS APPROVED IT.

WHAT MAKES THEM QUALIFY? WHAT WOULD MAKE THEM QUALIFY IN THIS? YOU HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED SOME INCREASE IN YOUR RENT SINCE THE PANDEMIC.

AND WE HAVE BEEN ALSO USING THAT BASED ON THIS INCREASE, THAT YOUR PAYMENT IS MORE THAN 30% OF YOUR INCOME.

AND SO WE HAVE BEEN APPLYING THE HUD STANDARD.

SO IF YOU'RE SHOWING THAT THIS NEW INCREASE HAS NOT PUT YOU TO OVER 30% OF YOUR INCOME IS BEING USED FOR RENTAL PAYMENT, THEN THAT'S A PART OF THE QUALIFICATION PROCESS AS WELL.

AND THEN WE LOOK AT YOUR INCOME AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE NOT ABOVE 120% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

AND YOU SAY WE HAVE 200,000, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. JUST WITH CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION.

CONSIDERING THERE'S 200,000, IF WE CAN DO 50,000 PER DISTRICT, IF IT MOVES FORWARD, AND DOING AN EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF IT.

BUT I STILL THINK THERE'S THERE'S WEIRD STUFF WITH THIS MORTGAGE, CONSIDERING THERE'S EQUITY IN THE PROPERTY, AND IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE REPAID.

[02:25:06]

THEY HAVE TO REPAY IT IF THEY SELL IT.

SO. COMMISSIONER.

DANIEL. I'M SORRY, ISN'T THIS MONEY? IT'S NOT OUR TAXPAYER RESIDENTS MONEY.

IT'S MONEY THAT WE GOT FROM A GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

CORRECT? FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARPA FUNDS.

OKAY. AND, ISN'T THERE? YOU SAID YOU WERE FOLLOWING HUD STIPULATIONS.

YES. WE JUST EMPLOY THE SAME STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE USED WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT WE CURRENTLY ADMINISTER.

RIGHT. SO YOU'RE EMPLOYING THE SAME STANDARDS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USED, UTILIZE ON FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDS.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER. BOLTON. AND MISS CALLOWAY, YOU YOU YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR THE SIX TIMES THAT WE HELPED HOMEOWNERS IN TAMARAC WE DID, OR THOSE PROGRAMS. JUST FOR THE RECORD. NONE OF US WENT AGAINST THAT.

THOSE SIX TIMES WE WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS, AND WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH SOME ARGUMENT THAT THEY MAY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM.

WE? YOU DIDN'T HEAR THOSE COMMENTS IN THE FORUM FOR YOU TO ANSWER.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. HE MADE A COMMENT.

SO, MISS CALLOWAY, HOW HOW CAN WE THEN SAFEGUARD, FROM RESIDENTS? I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD, AS ALWAYS SUGGESTED, BUT HOW COULD WE SAFEGUARDS FROM RESIDENTS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM? I THINK, AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED, WE HAVE, VERY GREAT REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE.

WE'VE BEEN ADMINISTERING ALL TYPE OF FEDERAL FUNDS, CDBG SHIP FUNDS AND HOME FUNDS, CONSISTENTLY BASED ON FEDERAL GUIDELINES.

AND WHEN WE BRING THESE FUNDS TO YOU, INCLUDING PROGRAMS THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH GENERAL FUNDS, WE APPLY THE SAME, WITH THE SAME STANDARD.

WE INCLUDE A BIT OF A FLEXIBILITY AND INCREASE THE INCOME IN THIS CASE, TO 120% AMI TO ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO QUALIFY.

BUT, EVERYTHING ELSE, RELATIVE TO THE STANDARDS THAT ARE EMPLOYED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDS AND STATE FUNDS ARE STILL USED.

OKAY. AND YOU DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD JUST FALL BEHIND ON THEIR MORTGAGE TO APPLY FOR SOMETHING? THAT I THINK PEOPLE HAVE MORE RESPECT THAN THAT, RIGHT? NO. WE GO THROUGH A RIGOROUS PROCESS, INCLUDING CERTIFICATION.

WE LOOK AT YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, WE LOOK AT YOUR INCOME.

WE MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE FUNDS STASHED AWAY SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU'RE SAVING.

SO IT'S A IT'S A RIGOROUS PROCESS THAT WE EMPLOY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A NEED, A DEMONSTRATED NEED FOR THESE FUNDS.

YEAH. SO IF THEY'RE APPLYING AND YOU LOOK AT THEIR, THEIR BANK ACCOUNT, THEY CLEARLY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO, TO, TO PAY THESE, THIS MORTGAGE.

SO THEY'RE REALLY IN, IN NEED.

WE HAVE EXTENSIVELY YES.

WE HAVE HAD TO DENY PEOPLE WHO WE SEE THAT THERE'S NOT A NEED.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO MAKE THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS.

WE HAVE DONE THAT. AND EVEN WITH THE RENTAL GAP PROGRAM, THE REASON WHY WE HAVE SPENT ONLY $6,000, WE DENIED ABOUT 11 APPLICANTS WHO WE WERE ABLE TO SEE COULD PAY THEIR RENT.

OKAY. AND AND IF I HAVE EQUITY IN MY MY HOME, HOW HOW DO I GET THAT OUT? I HAVE TO JUST GO TO THE BANK AND I'M A RENTER, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I JUST GO TO THE BANK AND TELL THEM THAT I WANT SOME MONEY AND GET IT OUT.

I WHAT, BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING OF SOMEBODY BEHIND ON THEIR MORTGAGE.

MAYBE THEIR CREDIT IS IS ALSO, JACKED UP BECAUSE THEY ARE BEHIND ON OTHER BILLS.

AND IF THEY GO TO THE BANK TO GET A TO REFINANCE THE HOME, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT CREDIT OR, OR APPLY FOR A HELOC OR HOME EQUITY LINE OF CREDIT.

MAYBE I'M SMARTER THAN I'M THAT.

I'M THAT I MAKE MYSELF.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF I APPLY FOR A HELOC, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO LOOK AT MY CREDIT.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SHOT BECAUSE I'M BEHIND ON MY MORTGAGE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON MY CREDIT.

VICE MAYOR. RIGHT. IN KIND OF TALKING TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT, I THINK THE FEDERAL RULES ARE ALWAYS STRICTER THAN STATE AND LOCAL RULES. JUST LOOKING AT THE CITY IN CALIFORNIA, THEIR RULES ARE VERY LAX COMPARE TO WHAT YOU MENTIONED, THE FEDERAL RULES.

I THINK WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE THE MORTGAGE PROGRAM AND PERHAPS WE COULD A WORKSHOP TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO GET ACCESS TO MORTGAGE PAYMENT IF THEY ARE IN NEED. WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NEFARIOUS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO BE NEFARIOUS PEOPLE WHO'S ALWAYS GOING TO TRY STUFF.

BUT I THINK THE BACKSTOPS AND THE THE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN PLACE, THERE YOU'VE YOU'VE YOU'VE PROVEN THAT IT WORKS.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO ACCESS THOSE FUNDS WHO ARE STRUGGLING, NOT THINKING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE NEFARIOUS CHARACTERS.

[02:30:05]

I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO WORKSHOP FOR THE NUANCES OF MAKING IT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING FOR CONDO ASSOCIATIONS AND HOA AND ASSESSMENTS.

WHERE IS THAT MONEY? NO, WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT.

IT WAS JUST A GAP ASSISTANCE.

WE HAD DONE SOME RESEARCH RELATED TO THESE ARPA FUNDS AND DID NOT BELIEVE IT WOULD QUALIFY.

OKAY. BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE IN GRANVILLE KINGS POINT.

THEY'RE PAYING $800 A MONTH.

SO I'M TELLING YOU, EVERYBODY'S HURTING.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU OWN OR YOU RENT, IT ALWAYS GETS PASSED THROUGH SOMEHOW.

BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY REFERRING TO ONE OF THE SIX PROGRAMS THAT WE RAN BEFORE DID INCLUDE SOME HOA, BUT THOSE WERE DIFFERENT FUNDS.

DIFFERENT THAT WE USED. YES.

OKAY. SO BASICALLY THIS IS ARPA.

WE ARE VERY HAVE VERY STRICT REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE VERY. WE HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN THINGS ENCUMBERED AND READY TO GO BEFORE CLAWBACKS COME.

SO WE HAVE A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE.

SO YOU'VE HEARD CONSENSUS FOR WORKSHOP.

PLEASE PUT IT ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE WORKSHOP, IF POSSIBLE, PLEASE.

AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO DISCUSS, BECAUSE I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS BEFORE I START SAYING I KNOW PEOPLE WITH THEIR MORTGAGES NEED HELP, BUT MAYBE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO RESEARCH IT AND TELL US IF THERE'S ANOTHER BUCKET OF MONEY COMING OUR WAY WHERE WE CAN HELP THEM OR NOT.

BECAUSE I THINK TRYING TO LOOSEN UP SOME OF THE ARPA FUND RESTRICTIONS, WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT LEGAL ABILITY TO DO SO BASED ON IT BEING FEDERAL FUNDS.

SO YOU'LL COME BACK TO US AND GIVE US OUR BLUEPRINT OF WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO AND NOT ALLOWED TO DO.

FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S RENT OR MORTGAGE ASSESSMENTS.

THIS ALL GOES INTO SOME OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WHICH WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO AND FOR OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS.

SO WE'LL HAVE IT IN AN EARLIER WORKSHOP, IF POSSIBLE, PLEASE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING, AND WE DO HAVE TO EXPEND THE REST OF OUR FUNDS.

AND IF I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE'VE ADVERTISED FOR THE RENTAL HEARING, ONLY 11.

I'M SORRY, I, I'M PRETTY SURE IF ANYBODY'S WATCHING, THEY'RE GOING TO START HITTING US, SAYING, I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HEARD.

I EVEN HAVEN'T ANYTHING IN A FLIER THAT I KNOW THAT I'VE PUT OUT.

SO DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE REALLY HAD STARTED ROLLING IT OUT.

SO I WOULD LIKE A BETTER FORMAT FOR OUR.

INFORMATION ON GETTING THIS OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS.

IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HAD.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION. YES, PLEASE.

I THOUGHT WE AGREED THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE THE MONEY.

WE'RE GOING TO USE THE MONEY FOR FOR THE MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM BASED ON EXISTING, STUFF THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO WORKSHOP AND SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE LOOK AT THE NUANCES TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE CHANGES.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT WE WERE COMPLETELY GETTING RID OF THE RENTAL.

NO, NO, NO, WE'RE COMBINING BOTH, RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S IT'S A CONVERSATION TO SEE WHERE THE SPLIT IS, WHERE THE MONEY IS, HOW MUCH IS LEFT OVER, HOW TO ACTUALLY ALLOCATE THE ARPA FUNDS UNDER FEDERAL GUIDELINES THAT WE'RE STUCK WITH VERSUS ANY OTHER MONEY THAT MIGHT BE IN THE PIPELINE THAT THE CITY CAN SEE, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED.

YOU WERE ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT.

BOTH OF YOU WERE ASKING FOR DIFFERENT MECHANISM FOR VETTING, I BELIEVE IS THE WORD FOR REVIEWING THE APPLICANTS AND DETERMINING HOW MONEY GOES OUT, AND JUST ALSO ASKING TO SEE WHAT OTHER MONIES OUT THERE IN CASE WE NEED TO ARE ABLE TO INCREASE THIS IN A SEPARATE POCKET.

OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THIS BUCKET IS LIMITED TO THE $292,000 OR $94,000 THAT REMAINS IN THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE GAP PROGRAM IS 200,000, MINUS THE 6000 SPENT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BETWEEN NO AND WORKSHOP, IF PEOPLE ARE HURTING AND THEY WANT TO APPLY FOR THE MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN STILL CONTINUE TO GET IT. I THINK MY MY CLARIFICATION IS THAT TAKE THE EXISTING, NUANCES THAT WE HAVE IN PROCESS IN TERMS OF FROM A FEDERAL, ISSUES, THE FEDERAL, THE HUD, THE HUD, THE HUD REQUIREMENTS AND MOVE THE MONEY RIGHT AWAY TO GET THE PROGRAM GOING.

AND THEN WE COME BACK TO WORKSHOP TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE CHANGES TO HAVE MORE RESIDENTS ACCESS THE MONEY.

I'M GOING TO GIVE A HYPOTHETICAL TO YOUR IF YOU HAVE $194,000 SITTING IN THE BUCKET RIGHT NOW.

AND. 20 PEOPLE AT THE SOUND OF OUR VOICES GO AND ALL OF A SUDDEN REGISTER FOR THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONLY $5,000 EACH, RIGHT. FOR THE MORTGAGE PART.

AND THEN AT THE SAME TOKEN, 20 PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE FOR THE RENT PART.

WHO'S GOING TO GET PRIORITY? WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ESTABLISHED.

I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE HURTING NOW, BUT I THINK IT'S COMING INTO TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WILL BE OUR NEXT WORKSHOP.

IS IT REALLY IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO RUSH A PROGRAM? WILL YOU EVEN BE ABLE TO HAVE IT DONE IN TIME BEFORE THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING? NEXT WORKSHOP? I'M NOT AGAINST DOING SOMETHING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ALSO ASKING OUR STAFF TO DO SOMETHING IN A MECHANISM THAT IS NOT PROPER.

[02:35:01]

THERE'S NO NEED TO LET THE RESIDENTS, THE POSSIBLE RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT NEED HELP.

WAIT, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A MECHANISM IN PLACE, A PROCEDURE AND A SYSTEM IN PLACE? NO, I KNOW, AND I'M SURE IF THE 20 AND THE 50, THERE'S SOME THAT'S GOING TO BE ELIMINATED JUST BASED ON THE DATA SHE PRESENTED.

MADAM MAYOR, I JUST I KNOW IT WAS NOTED AT THE LAST ARP DISCUSSION.

THERE'S A DEADLINE TO USE THESE FUNDS.

CAN YOU NOTE, MISS CALLOWAY, I BELIEVE THE DEADLINE FOR ARP FUNDS IS THIS YEAR.

THERE'S NO DEADLINE. DECEMBER 31ST OF 2024 HAS TO BE ENCUMBERED, NOT JUST EARMARKED, OR HAS TO BE SPENT.

ENCUMBERED. CHRISTINE CAJUSTE OF OUR FINANCIAL OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR.

SORRY. I'M YOU KNOW I'M CRAWFORD TITLES HAS STATED ON THE RECORD THAT IT IS NEEDS TO BE ENCUMBERED BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.

RIGHT. TRY.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO JUST BECAUSE I LIKE SIMPLE MATH, HOPEFULLY I KNOW MORE THAN THAT.

BUT ANYWAY, $5,000 INTO THE 994,000 IS 38 PEOPLE AND CHANGE.

SO. NO NO, NO.

THAT'S FINE.

I'M SORRY FOR NOT BEING.

HOWEVER, WE COULD STILL LOOK AT THE OTHER MONEY BECAUSE MAYBE THAT MONEY IS JUST SITTING THERE TOO.

WELL, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO ASK.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO PUT THIS IN THE WORKSHOP.

I WANT TO KNOW WHERE NOT TO HOLD THAT UP.

YEAH. WHERE IS OUR MONEY? HOW OTHER THINGS ARE BEING EXPENDED? HOW ARE WE GETTING THE SINGLE FAMILY ROOF AND WINDOWS INSURANCE RELATED INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE? HOW IS EVERYTHING GOING WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICES, VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WHERE IS THAT 50,000 AT THE WORKSHOP.

PLEASE LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS ARPA FUND THAT IS.

YEAH. STAGNANT NOT BEING UTILIZED.

THE STABILITY, THE HOUSING STABILITY FOR THE HOMELESS.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TOUCH ADMIN, BUT LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MONEY LEFT OVER.

I MY GUT DOESN'T SAY TO TOUCH THE 505 RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S I DON'T BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.

SO GIVE US A FULL BREAKDOWN AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.

AND THEN IF THERE ARE PEOPLE, IF IT CAN BE ROLLED OUT WITHOUT ISSUE, ROLL IT OUT.

AND. TRY TO DO IT IN THE MOST EQUITABLE FASHION POSSIBLE, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL CLARIFY NUMBERS.

DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH GUIDANCE OR DOES IT MAKE LIFE GOING FORWARD? IF WE RECEIVE AN AN APPLICANT TODAY AFTER THIS MEETING FOR MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, I CAN PROCESS THAT APPLICATION OUT OF THE $200,000 A GAP ASSISTANCE.

AND I'M SCHEDULED TO BE BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

AND THAT'S FOR UP TO $5,000.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR CURRENT IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR CURRENT ANY WAY TO ROLL IN THE CONVERSATION FOR OUR HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE SUFFERING, WHO CAN'T PAY THE ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENTS ON OUR CONDOS AND A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THESE ARE FUNDS THAT, LAST WE CHECKED, DID NOT QUALIFY.

YES, BUT WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AGAIN IN PREPARATION FOR THE WORKSHOP.

PLEASE DO BECAUSE.

THAT IS WHERE OUR OUR FORECLOSURES ARE GOING TO GO.

OUR CONDOS ON THE ASSESSMENTS ARE JUST ASTRONOMICAL.

WITH THE INSURANCE. WE ALL WENT UP TO TALLAHASSEE.

WE WERE ALL FIGHTING FOR IT.

WE'RE TOLD CHANGE IS COMING.

REALITY IS CHANGE IS NOT GOING TO COME SOON ENOUGH.

AND WE ARE VERY YOUR COMMISSION IS VERY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A BUNCH OF OUR CONDO PEOPLE PUT INTO FORECLOSURE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING OUR CONDOMINIUMS TURNED INTO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BUY OUT 80% OF THE BUILDINGS AND CONVERT THEM.

AND, AND THEN POSSIBLY EVEN JUST KNOCK THEM DOWN AND THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE EQUITY.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE LIFE SAVINGS OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE HAD IN THEIR HOMES, THEY'VE PAID OFF THEIR MORTGAGE, BUT NOW THEY HAVE $800 OF ASSESSMENTS.

THEY DON'T HAVE A MORTGAGE TO COME TO US FOR.

THEY'RE NOT RENTING.

SO WHERE DO THEY GET THE HELP? THAT'S ANOTHER BUCKET OF MONEY THAT THIS CITY NEEDS TO START THINKING ABOUT SERIOUSLY.

ON HOW TO HELP THE PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOMES WITHOUT A MORTGAGE, WHO DO NOT QUALIFY FOR A MORTGAGE OR A HELOC, A FIRST MORTGAGE, OR A SECOND BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT INCOME BASED ON JUST BEING ON SOCIAL SECURITY OR DISABILITY OR WHATEVER IT IS.

SO THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL WAYS TO THINK TO TRY TO HELP OUR, OUR COMMUNITY.

PLEASE SOME.

SURE. ON THAT NOTE, UNLESS ONE QUESTION, NOTHING.

AND I KNOW WE DID DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.

AND YOU SAID YOU WERE WORKING ON TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING FOR HOA.

BUT WHAT IF ONCE WE INCLUDE MORTGAGES, WOULD THAT ALSO INCLUDE CONDO OWNERS THAT ARE BEHIND ON THEIR MORTGAGE? YEAH, IT WOULD BE. OH, SO THEN WE COULD GIVE THEM SOME ASSISTANCE IN THAT AREA.

BUT THAT'S ONLY IF THEY HAVE A MORTGAGE.

IT DOESN'T HELP THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE MORTGAGES.

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IT'S SHE. MISS CALLAWAY HAS SAID THAT AT THIS TIME, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT ARPA FUNDS CAN HELP WITH ONLY ASSESSMENTS, WHETHER IT'S AN HOA OR A COA.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME FUNDS, WHETHER IT'S GRANT FUNDS OR WHATEVER FUNDS WE CAN START GETTING TO START HELPING THAT SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION THAT DOESN'T GET ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T RENT AND THEY DON'T HAVE A MORTGAGE AND THEY CAN'T QUALIFY FOR A MORTGAGE.

SO BUT THEY HAVE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.

SO, POINT OF CLARIFICATION WHERE THAT IS CONCERNED.

IT DOES ANYTHING PRECLUDE US FROM TAKING MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND, AND ALLOTTING IT TO SOME PROGRAM TO HELP RESIDENTS WITH, ASSISTANCE WITH CONDO FEES OR HOA FEES? COMMISSIONER. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE CAN, WE CAN ALWAYS LOOK INTO THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS BEING A STATEWIDE, YOU KNOW, PROBLEM, IT'S NOT REALLY A CITY.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A VIABLE CITY SOLUTION.

WE CAN ALWAYS DO STUFF.

WE CAN ALWAYS DO SOME THINGS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE, VERY SMALL, YOU KNOW, IMPACT ON THE ON THE ACTUAL PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY THE STATE.

ACTUALLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT BUT CITY ATTORNEY IS ARE WE ABLE TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO ASSIST ANY RESIDENTS THAT HAS ISSUES WITH PAYING THEIR HOA OR THEIR CONDO FEES? OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT PROHIBITS THE CITY FROM USING GENERAL FUND TO PROVIDE TO RESIDENTS.

FROM A PUBLIC PURPOSE STANDPOINT, IF I ADDITIONAL RESEARCH INDICATE OTHERWISE, I WOULD HAVE ADVISED THE COMMISSION.

OKAY, SO SINCE WE'RE ON THE TOP, SINCE WE THE MAYOR, BROUGHT THAT UP OFF TOPIC AND, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING OTHER THINGS, THAT WORKSHOP AND LOOKING AT OTHER SOLUTIONS, PERHAPS I CAN GET CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION TO SET ASIDE SOME MONEY FROM GENERAL FUND TO HELP RESIDENTS WITH HOA AND AND CONDO ASSESSMENT FEES.

AT THE SAME WORKSHOP THAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS. BUT COMMISSIONER, THAT'S ADDING A SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOR A VOTE AND DISCUSSION.

WHAT I SAID IS FOR PUTTING IT ON OUR BUDGET.

MADAM COMMISSIONER, YOU, MADAM MAYOR, SORRY, I WORK FOR A COMMISSIONER AND THAT'S WHAT I CALLED HER, SO I APOLOGIZE.

NO DISRESPECT.

MADAM COMMISSIONER.

MADAM MAYOR, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS IS ADDING IS ASKING FOR A WORKSHOP ON OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE.

OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF WHAT I ASKED.

SO I'M ALSO ASKING OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF WHAT I ASKED, IF WE CAN SET ASIDE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS WITH CONDO AND HOA FEES.

WE CANNOT JUST COME HERE ALL THE TIME AND TALK, TALK, TALK, TALK, TALK ACT AS IF WE WE WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING.

AND THEN WHEN A SOLUTION COMES, WE'RE SAYING IT'S TOO SMALL.

IF IF WE'RE GOING TO BE THOUGHT LEADERS AND LEADERS THAT TAKE ACTION, HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

MY THE PURVIEW OF MY ITEM WAS TO TALK ABOUT ONE LINE ITEM.

RENTAL ASSISTANCE, RENT INCREASE GAP.

WE DISCUSSED THAT WE WE DISPOSED OF IT.

WE TALKED ABOUT, RESIDENTS AT THIS TIME CAN APPLY.

YOU ARE THE ONE TO TALK ABOUT OTHER LINE ITEMS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.

YOU WERE THE ONE THAT THAT BROUGHT UP CONDO AND HOAS AND HELPING THEM.

SO I'M NOT OUT OF LINE FOR FOR ASKING.

IN ADDITION TO THE WORKSHOP ITEM THAT THE CITY EXPLORES MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS, IF WE'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THEM, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SET ASIDE MONEY FOR THEM.

IT'S I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD SPEND MONEY TODAY.

I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD COME UP WITH AN ARBITRARY NUMBER TODAY AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, GO GIVE PEOPLE MONEY.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS JUST DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK INTO WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO IT.

AND NUMBER TWO, FIND OUT FROM STAFF HOW MUCH MONEY WE COULD PROVIDE, PROVIDE TO SUCH A PROGRAM AND WHAT GUIDELINES COULD WE ATTACH TO SUCH A PROGRAM? IT'S IT'S ONLY A CONVERSATION AND AND IT'S A CONVERSATION THEN WITH MEANING AND PURPOSE BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS.

OR VICE VERSA.

I BELIEVE I ASKED FOR US TO LOOK AT ALL MECHANISMS POSSIBLE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, IF THAT MECHANISM POSSIBLE IS A GENERAL FUND, AND SAID THAT IF WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT A WORKSHOP TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT THROUGH THE BUDGET.

SO BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I HOPE YOUR HEAD DOESN'T POP OFF YOUR SHOULDERS.

WE ARE IN AGREEMENT. OKAY, GOOD.

SO, MISS CALLOWAY, YOU YOU YOU YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION.

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AND, CHRISTINE, YOU YOU HEARD THAT AS WELL.

AND, HANS, YOU HEARD IT AS WELL.

MAKE SURE IT'S LEGAL.

FIND OUT HOW MUCH WE WE COULD AND COME UP WITH SOME, SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR SUCH A PROGRAM AND PRESENT IT TO THE NEXT WORKSHOP.

BECAUSE THE MAYOR AND I ARE IN AGREEMENT.

LIGHTNING STRIKE! WHERE ARE YOU? YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME.

BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, THERE'S A BIGGER DISCUSSION TO BE HAD WITH FINANCES AND BUDGETS.

SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DO THINGS THAT WON'T CAUSE AN ISSUE.

SO AS MUCH AS WE NEED IT SOONER THAN LATER.

PLEASE JUST GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER.

BUT IF YOU COME TO THE MEETING AND SAY YOU NEED SOME MORE TIME WHEN IT COMES TO THE GENERAL FUND DISCUSSION, THEN YOU NEED TO LET US KNOW.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY? YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

HE TURNED IT OFF. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE TURNING IT OFF.

IT IS 1230.

GO HOME. HAVE A GREAT WEEK.

WEEKEND. SEE YOU AT THE CAR SHOW.

THE PARROT. THANK YOU.

MEETING ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.