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ALL RIGHT. TAKE TWO. GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. GOOD. GOOD. TECHNICAL

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DIFFICULTIES HAPPENED. WELL EVERYBODY HAD A WONDERFUL WEEKEND WELCOME TO THE MAIN 20TH WORKSHOP. IF YOU WERE CALL MR. BOLTON. GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONER GALEN.

MORNING COMMISSIONER FISHMAN. GOOD MORNING. VICE MAYOR FLACCO GOOD MORNING.

MAYOR GOMEZ GOOD MORNING. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE AND LET'S FOLLOW. COMMISSIONER GALLON AS HE LEADS US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND

[1. Surtax Update]

WHILE WE CALL UP OUR BROWARD COUNTY ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR GRETCHEN CASSINI AND DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BROWARD MPO BILL CROSS FOR OUR FIRST PRESENTATION I'M JUST GOING TO DO TWO HOUSE KEEPING NOTES. TODAY WE HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA AND WE WILL BE TAKING A BREAK AT APPROXIMATELY 10 45 DEPENDING ON WHERE THINGS FALL. AND THEN WE WILL TAKE A LUNCH BREAK ABOUT NOON FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND THEN WE WILL RECONVENE. SO KEEPING THOSE THINGS IN MIND ALSO I'M JUST GOING TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES WE ARE HERE TO EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS AND WE'RE THEIR VARIED OPINIONS ON MANY TOPICS. SO EVEN IF OPINIONS ARE NOT AGREED UPON BY ALL. LET'S JUST KNOW THAT WE ALL HEAR YOU EVERYBODY HERE AS EACH OTHER. AND WE WILL KEEP MOVING FORWARD TODAY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GRETCHEN IF YOU WOULD STARTING OFF OUR SURTAX. UPDATE PLEASE. GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE. ALSO JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW I DO HAVE THE FULL WEB SITE I DON'T SEE THE COMPUTER HERE ANY LONGER. BUT IF YOU ALL DO YOU WANT ME TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THE WEB SITE. IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THIS PRESENTATION RIGHT. SO WE WERE ASKED TO COME AND TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO STAND UP THE SURTAX PROGRAM AND WE ARE CALLING IT THE MOBILITY ADVANCEMENT PROGRAM FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE TRANSPORTATION SURTAX SOME OF THE IMPORTANT MILESTONES AND ACHIEVEMENTS WITH RESPECT TO OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE MPO HAVE BEEN. WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATED OUR INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT TO PRIORITIZE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS. IT WENT TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD FOR THE FUNDS SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PAY MPO SO THEY COULD HIRE STAFF TO DEVELOP A PRIORITIZATION PROCESS AND AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THESE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS IS UNDERWAY. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE EXISTING MULTI-PARTY IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE ALL ENTERED INTO WITH THE MPO THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY BACK IN 2018 PRIOR TO THE VOTE. AND YOU SHOULD BE SEEING THAT SOMETIME IN JUNE SHOULD BE COMING TO YOU. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT THAT WE CAN DISTRIBUTE TO ALL OF THE CITIES. YOU CAN PROVIDE SOME INPUT BEFORE IT GOES ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA. IN JUNE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TAMARACK COMMUNITY SHUTTLE IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENTS AND THE TIMEFRAME FOR IT RENEGOTIATING THAT THE 100 PERCENT FUNDING FOR BOTH CAPITAL AND OPERATING WOULD BEGIN ON OCTOBER 1ST. SO OBVIOUSLY THOSE NEGOTIATIONS ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY AND WE'LL BE SEEING THAT. I WOULD ASSUME IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THEN EACH CITY MUNICIPALITY WILL ALSO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY AND THOSE NON COMMUNITY SHUTTLE FUNDS. THOSE ARE YOUR PROJECT FUNDS AND THOSE NEED TO ALL BE IN PLACE BY MARCH OF 2020 SO THAT MUNICIPALITIES CAN ACCESS FISCAL YEAR 2020 FUNDS AND WHAT WILL THAT BE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTING A LITTLE OVER 120 MILLION DOLLARS FOR MUNICIPAL PROJECTS. AND AGAIN THAT 100 PERCENT COMMUNITY SHUTTLE FUNDING IS BEGINNING ON OCTOBER 1ST. THAT'LL BE THE FIRST SURTAX REVENUE THAT MUNICIPALITIES SEE AND THEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT'S BEING CONTEMPLATED. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MR. CROSS HERE. BUT WE KNOW BASED ON OUR IN LOCAL AGREEMENT TIMEFRAMES THAT THE MPO STAFF THE SURTAX FUNDED STAFF WILL BE PRESENTING RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY'RE READY WITH THE DROP DEAD DATE OF BEING AN EARLY 2020. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME MUNICIPAL PROJECTS WE'LL JUST KEEP ADDING THEM TO THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ARE

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DEVELOPING RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT ON THIS SLIDE BUT I DID WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A BUDGET WORKSHOP WITH THE INDEPENDENT TRANSPORTATION TAX OVERSIGHT BOARD ON JUNE 27. AND THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP WILL INCLUDE THE PROJECTIONS FOR MUNICIPAL PROJECTS AND ANY DISCUSSIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO PREPARE THE OVERSIGHT BOARD FOR THE TIMEFRAMES THAT THEY'LL BE NEEDING TO ACT BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND ONCE WE RECEIVE THE INFORMATION FROM THE MPO WITH RESPECT TO MUNICIPAL PROJECTS IT STILL NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD FOR APPROVAL BEFORE WE APPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY ON A TIGHT TIMEFRAME. WE'RE ALSO SORRY. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT DOING A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND THIS IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE MUNICIPALITIES. WE THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA OBVIOUSLY THAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR CERTAINTY AS WELL AND THE MPO WORKS ON FIVE YEAR PLAN TIME HORIZONS. SO IT'S CONSISTENT AND IT MAKES GOOD SENSE FOR US. SO THE FIRST FIVE YEAR PLAN IS DUE JULY 1ST OF 2020. THE REASON FOR DOING THAT IS SO IT CAN GO TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD. ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED IN A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WOULD BE THERE. AND WHEN THE OVERSIGHT BOARD ACTS IT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE A LEVEL OF CERTAINTY ABOUT WHICH PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING OVER THAT TIME PERIOD. ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN IS CAN WE SPEND MONEY ON A PROJECT NOW AND GET REIMBURSED FOR LATER AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO DO A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND TAKE IT TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD BECAUSE IF THERE IS A PROJECT IN THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN LET'S SAY THAT YOUR CITY WOULD LIKE TO DO AND IT'S ACTUALLY LISTED IN YEAR THREE FOUR AND FIVE OF THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN. DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START ADVANCING SOME FUNDING INTO DESIGN IN YOUR ONE. YOU CAN HAVE A LEVEL OF CERTAINTY THAT YOU'LL AT LEAST BE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR THOSE EXPENSES SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PLAN. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE IN THE PAST BUT FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE I DID WANT YOU TO SEE THAT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF REHAB AND MAINTENANCE THAT'S IN THE PLAN FOR THE CITY OF TAMARACK. IT'S ACTUALLY ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY PLUS MILLION DOLLARS. AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS RIGHT NOW THE WAY THAT OUR ENTIRE LOCAL AGREEMENT AND ORDINANCE IS STRUCTURED ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO THE MPO FOR PRIORITIZATION. BUT THE WAY THAT PROJECTS ARE PRIORITIZED UNDER THE ORDINANCE THEY HAVE TO BE RELIEVING CONGESTION AND CREATING CONNECTIVITY AND SO MANY OF THESE REHAB AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS AREN'T GOING TO DO THAT AND THEY WOULDN'T RISE TO THE TOP AND SO WE'VE HEARD FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES. WE'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS CARVED OUT OF THE PRIORITIZATION PROCESS SO THAT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE FUNDED EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM INSTEAD OF IN YEARS 28 29 AND 30. KEEP IN MIND THIS IS A 30 YEAR SURTAX. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT I WAS MENTIONING PREVIOUSLY. YOU'LL SEE THOSE REHABILITATION AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS CARVED OUT OF THE PRIORITIZATION PROCESS. YOU HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND ALMOST 16 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE GOING TO THE MPO FOR PRIORITIZATION AND THEN OF COURSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT NEW PROJECTS OR AMEND YOUR EXISTING PROJECTS AS YOU SEE FIT. THERE ARE ALSO QUITE A FEW COUNTY ROADWAY AND SAFETY PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED INSIDE OF 10 TRACKS JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES. AND THIS IS A MAP OF THOSE THE SYMBOLOGY WE'RE TRYING TO USE THE SAME SYMBOLOGY OVER AND OVER SO THAT THE COMMITTEES START THE COMMUNITY STARTS TO RECOGNIZE WHAT THESE SYMBOLS MEAN BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PRESENTATION THOSE BLUE CIRCLES ARE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS THE LITTLE PINK FLAGS OUR SCHOOL SAFETY ZONE IMPROVEMENTS THE GREEN TRIANGLES ARE GREEN WAYS. THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF ADAPTIVE SIGNAL CONTROL IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER AND THEN ALL OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED. AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT 100 PERCENT FUNDING OF YOUR COMMUNITY SHUTTLE SERVICE AND ALL OF THE HEADWAY AND SCHEDULE IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR EXISTING LOCAL BUS ROUTES. I'M VERY PLEASED TO HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION HERE CHRIS WALTON THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TONY HUEY. RICHARD TOURNEYS ANGELA WALLACE WHO IS THE ATTORNEY THAT'S WORKING ON ALL OF THE SURTAX IMPLEMENTATION SO IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE HERE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DID AN

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AMAZING JOB OF PLANNING AHEAD BEFORE THE SURTAX EVEN PASSED. THEY WERE ALREADY PLANNING FOR THEIR LEVEL OF SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO BRING A 10 PERCENT INCREASE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THEIR FIXED ROUTH SYSTEM IN JUNE WITH ANOTHER 10 PERCENT INCREASE EXPECTED IN SEPTEMBER. SO THOSE 20 19 FISCAL YEAR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE PROMISED THE VOTERS THEY'RE GOING TO HAPPEN HERE SOME MORE OF THE SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE EARLY ONES ALONG ROCK ISLAND AND NOB HILL AND MCNABB THE BUS RAPID SERVICE THAT'S PLANNED ALONG U.S.

441 AND THEN SOME OF OUR LONG RANGE PLANS ARE AROUND CREATING A DATA CENTRIC COUNTY A SMART COUNTY. WE WANT TO CREATE A COUNTY BRAIN WHERE WE'RE TAKING DATA AND INFORMATION. A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION ALREADY EXISTS IT ALREADY EXISTS INSIDE OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES THAT ALREADY EXISTS ACROSS THE COUNTY BUT WE HAVE THESE SILOS WHERE INFORMATION IS SITTING AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GATHER IT AND ANALYZE IT IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WORK WITH OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS TO PLACE SENSORS ON OUR TRAFFIC LIGHTS STOP SIGNS SPEED LIMITS ON OUR COMMUNITY SHUTTLES. THIS IS ANONYMOUS DATA SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING HOW ARE THEY UTILIZING OUR EXISTING TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WHAT MOBILITY OPTIONS ARE THEY ACTUALLY SELECTING AND WHEN AND WHY WHAT DECISIONS ARE THEY MAKING SO THAT WHEN WE COME TO YOU THE NEXT TIME WITH A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN IS REALLY INFORMED BY DATA AND WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS NOT JUST ANECDOTALLY BUT BASED ON WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITIES. IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO DO SOME PREDICTIVE MODELING AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRIMARY FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM RESIDENTS IT IS ABOUT TRAFFIC CONGESTION. SO UTILIZING DATA TO REALLY BE ABLE TO IMPACT TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN THE EARLY YEARS OF THIS PLAN. IT'S ALSO GOING TO MAKE US MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE FOR FUNDING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH YOU. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RAIL PLANNING IN YOUR CITY. AND THOSE ARE BIG COLLABORATIVE PROJECTS BILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS AND THE BETTER THE DATA THE MORE COMPETITIVE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WITH A NEW STARTS TYPE OF GRANT NOT ONLY BREAKING DOWN THE CORRIDORS AND THE SILOS INSIDE OF OUR OWN ORGANIZATION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE IS TO CO LOCATE A VARIETY OF FUNCTIONS THAT ARE SURTAX RELATED INTO ONE PHYSICAL SPACE. WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT ALONG THE PLANNED CORRIDORS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE MUNICIPAL PARTNERS REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE VARIOUS CITIES THE PRIMES THE SUBS. KEEP IN MIND WE DO HAVE A 30 PERCENT LOCAL PARTICIPATION GOAL ON THIS ENTIRE PROGRAM FOR THE ELIGIBLE ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM. AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BE ABLE TO HAVE FIELD OFFICES. SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE CORRIDORS AND THE IDEA WOULD BE TO AS WE LET'S LOOK AT ONE THAT AFFECTS YOU ALL SO THE 441 CORRIDOR COULD BE A 10 YEAR PROJECT MULTIPLE PHASES AND YOU COULD START OFF IN THE NORTH AND MOVE SOUTH OR YOU COULD START OUT IN THE MIDDLE AND KIND OF WORK OUR WAY UP UNTIL WE DO THESE CORRIDOR STUDIES IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT THE BEST APPROACH TO CONSTRUCTION WILL BE THAT WILL BE THE LEAST DISRUPTIVE TO THE COMMUNITIES AND THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES BUT THE FIELD OFFICES THAT WOULD HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES AND REPRESENTATIVES IN THEM WOULD MOVE AS THE CORRIDOR WAS BEING CONSTRUCTED SO THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT COMMUNITY AND IF PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS OR THERE WERE ISSUES THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO TO A PHYSICAL PLACE AND HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE THERE THAT UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE PROJECTS TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS SO AT THIS POINT I KNOW YOU HAVE A PACKED AGENDA. I KNOW I MOVED VERY QUICKLY THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION BUT I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AT THIS POINT AND I'LL BRING UP WHATEVER TECHNICAL EXPERTS IT'S APPROPRIATE. AND BILL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS OR ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW. YOU KNOW I'M GLAD TO BE HERE OF

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COURSE THIS MORNING PRIMARILY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR EMBRYOS.

EXCELLENT. OK. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I THINK YOU JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS IT IN PLACE. HAVE THE NOMINEES BEEN SELECTED FOR THE OVERSIGHT BOARD AS OF YET. YES. SO THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY MET IN FEBRUARY JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND THEY SELECTED THE OVERSIGHT BOARD THE INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT BOARD AND THEY MET THE FIRST TIME ON FEBRUARY 14TH AND THEN AGAIN ON APRIL 25TH WHICH IS WHEN THEY TOOK BUDGETARY ACTION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2019. VICE MAYOR. OK.

ARE THERE ANY GUIDELINES IN PLACE FOR THEIR TURNAROUND TIME WHEN THEY RECEIVE PROJECTS. DO THEY NEED TO TURN IT AROUND IN X AMOUNT OF TIME. WELL THE OVERSIGHT BOARD HAS IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE 120 DAYS. THEY CAN TAKE UP TO 120 DAYS TO MAKE A DECISION BUT AS OF YET THEY HAVE NOT INDICATED A DESIRE TO DO THAT. THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN ACTING ON THE INFORMATION AS IT'S PRESENTED TO THEM IN THE MEETINGS I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT THE TRANSPORTATION. EAST TO WEST. WE ARE A FAR WESTERN COMMUNITY. WE ARE LOOKING AT REDEVELOPMENT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO PROVIDE IS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. CURRENTLY THERE IS NO WAY FOR SOMEONE REALISTICALLY TO GET WEST TO EAST FOR A JOB AND THEN COME HOME THAT WAY. WHAT PLANS DO WE HAVE FOR THAT. I'LL HAVE MR. WALTON COME AND SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ON OUR EAST WEST. THANK YOU. TRANSIT. MORNING. GOOD MORNING. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. WE CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE. IF YOU WOULD JUST OFFICIALLY PERCHANCE YOU ARE IN THIS WELCOME. DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION BROWARD COUNTY. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE HAVE DEFICIENCIES IN OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE EAST WEST TRAVEL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE 30 YEAR PLAN THE FIRST THING TO DO IS SCRATCH AND MATCH IN THE YEAR 2019 19 IS AT A 10 PERCENT SERVICE INCREASE. WE ARE ALSO DOING THAT IN 2020. BUT IF YOU LOOK OVER THE LONG HAUL THE INCREASE IN SERVICE AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WILL TAKE US FROM A CURRENT FLEET OF 359 BUSES UP TO 620 BUSES WITH AN EMPHASIS ON EAST WEST TRAVEL. WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT IN TERMS OF MOVING LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE EAST WEST THAT WE NEED SOME FORM OF HIGH CAPACITY TRAVEL SO GRETCHEN ALSO TOUCHED ON THE POSSIBILITY OF RAIL AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE STATE AND THE MPO TO DETERMINE WHERE THE BEST EAST WEST SOLUTION RESIDES IN THIS COUNTY. WE'LL BE WORKING WITH A COURSE WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL BUT WE DO RECOGNIZE IT AS A DEFICIT. BUT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE OVERALL PLAN YOU'LL SEE SIGNIFICANT TRANSIT IMPROVEMENTS ON THE EAST WEST TRAVEL WHEN MIGHT WE EXPECT TO ACTUALLY SEE THAT IN PLACE. YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE SOME OF IT STARTING IN JULY AND THEN AGAIN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER INCREASE IN OCTOBER. BUT AGAIN IT IS A 30 YEAR REFERENDUM AND IT'S IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD DO IT ALL IN THE FIRST THREE FIVE YEARS. BUT WE CAN'T GROW THAT FAST. BUT AGAIN THE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT'S A COUNTYWIDE SITUATION AND WE NEED TO YOU KNOW I LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE GAPS TWO TYPES OF GAS. WE HAVE GEOGRAPHIC GAPS IN OUR COUNTY RIGHT NOW. WE ARE THERE AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT ARE NOT SERVED IN UNDERSERVED. SO WE'RE FILLING THOSE GAPS NOW AND WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL HEADWAY GAPS OR THE INTERVAL BETWEEN THE BUSES IN MANY CASES TOO LARGE. SO WE'RE FILLING IN THOSE GAPS AS WELL BUT OVER TIME YOU WILL KNOW THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT ALL OF THOSE GAPS WILL BE FILLED. AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TAKE A LOOK AT THE OVERALL TRANSIT PLAN THAT YOU CAN SEE YEAR BY YEAR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'LL BE MAKING ON THE BUSES. NOW EVEN IF WE LOOK AT IT IF WE HAVE EAST TO WEST FROM ON MCNABB THEY CAN PICK UP TRI RAIL WHICH PEOPLE COULD USE AT THE STATION THERE AND WE WON'T EVEN GO INTO OUR COMMERCIAL CARGO BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD GUY. BUT ONCE YOU HAVE SOMETHING MORE DEFINITIVE IN PLACE IF YOU COULD SHARE THAT WITH ME SPECIFICALLY SO I CAN GET THAT WORD OUT. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT BE HAPPY. THANK YOU VERY

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MUCH. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BIKE LANES FOR A MINUTE BIKE LANES BIKE LANES BIKE LANES EVERYBODY'S LEAVING THE TABLE YOU CAN'T RUN FROM ME. GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU. I'M GOOD THANK YOU TONY. WHO USED TO BE DIRECTOR PUBLIC WORKS AT THE BROWARD COUNTY. MY FAVORITE BIKE LANES. OK WELL WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SEVERAL BIKE LANES IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED AS PART OF THE. AS PART OF THE COUNTY IMPROVEMENTS AND THERE IS. IT'S PARTLY IF WE CAN GO BACK TO EXCUSE ME FOR ONE SECOND EVENT WHY IS THERE A WAY TO PROVIDE THE KEYBOARD SO THEY CAN ACCESS THEIR SLIDES OR THE WEB SITE. THANK YOU YEAH. OK. OK. I'LL BE CALLED UP HERE OVER THERE. SO THANK YOU.

WE HAVE SOME MORE CHAIRS COMING AS WELL. OK. ARE YOU ACTUALLY IT'S ON CROWN. YEAH I FIGURED IT OUT. OK SO SUPER. AND NOW IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE CHART THE BIKE LANES THAT IS SHOWN ON THE CHART ARE THE OTHER ARE THE BLUE DASH LINES THAT THE SEGMENTS OF THEM THROUGHOUT TAMARACK AND ACTUALLY RIGHT IN THE VICINITY OF IT. AND WHAT THOSE WHAT THOSE ARE IS MANY OF THEM ARE CONNECTIONS TO EXISTING BIKE LANES ARE AVAILABLE SO SOME OF THE GAPS THAT THAT THAT THAT ARE THAT DO NOT HAVE BIKE LANES WE WANT TO MAKE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE THE PROPER CONNECTION. WHAT YOU ALSO SEE JUST KIND OF RELATED TO THE BIKE LANES IS ALSO OF THE GREENWAY SYSTEM. AND WHAT THE GREENWAY SYSTEMS ARE THE LITTLE GREEN DIAMONDS THAT THAT GRETCHEN IS POINTING TO BOTH ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE CITY AND THEN ALSO ON THE RIGHT SIDE. THAT MAKES SOME OF THE CONNECTIONS TO SOME OF THE CITY'S EXISTING RECREATIONAL FACILITIES ALONG THEM ALONG THE CANAL AND SO FORTH. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED IN TERMS OF BIKE WAYS AND ALSO SLASH GREEN WAYS LIKE SORT OF HAVE THOSE SORT OF DUAL PURPOSES TRAFFIC TOWARD THE CITY. YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE THE BIKE LANES WHERE THEY'RE ABLE TO GET TO A JOB TO GET TO SHOPPING WHATEVER IT IS. HAVE WE MADE ANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS SAFETY ISSUE UP THEM. BY THAT I MEAN WITH HOLES DESIGNATING THAT THAT BIKE LANE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC OR MARKING THEM IN BLUE OR GREEN OR SOMETHING DO WE HAVE ANYTHING NEW ON THAT. YEAH YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE BEEN WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO AND ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW AS WE GO ON AND WE KIND OF STARTED THIS A COUPLE YEARS BACK NOW I'M THINKING NOW I CAN SEE. IS THAT TO THE BEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. WHAT.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO WIDEN THE BIKE LANES TO THE BEST EXTENT POSSIBLE WHERE THERE IS ROOM. WE ALSO WANT TO PUT IN BUFFER AREAS THAT THAT'S SORT OF LIKE A LOW SPACE SO THAT'S A LITTLE GAP SO THAT THERE'S MORE ROOM FOR BICYCLISTS TO MANEUVER WITHOUT BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THEM DIRECTLY IMPACT IN TRAFFIC. NOW ALL OF THIS IS BASED ON WHAT WE CALL THE CROSS SECTION OF THE ROAD THAT'S AVAILABLE THAT THAT'S HOW MUCH ROOM ESSENTIALLY THERE IS AVAILABLE IN THE ROADWAY. SO TO THE BEST EXTENT POSSIBLE IN ALL OF OUR DESIGNS NOW WE TRY TO DO THAT AND MAXIMIZE THE SPACE AVAILABLE FOR BICYCLE SO THAT THEY CAN IMPROVE THE SAFETY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

OK. DO WE HAVE ANY PLANS FOR. YOU KNOW WE'VE SEEN IN MANY CITIES THEY HAVE THEM PAINTED THIS BRIGHT BLUE OR GREEN. I KNOW SPACE IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE. BUT WE'VE ALSO SEEN IN SOME CITIES HOW THEY MARK THEM OFF WITH BIG FLOWER POTS JUST TO MAKE THEM A LITTLE BIT SAFER. IT IS THE SAFETY ISSUE CONCERNS ME WHEN YOU YOU PUT THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO ROADS TWO LANES. YEAH THAT CONCERNS. WELL IN A TYPICAL DESIGN JUST FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT WE WOULD TRY NOT TO PUT A BICYCLE LANE IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO LANES. SOMETIMES THAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S A RIGHT TURN LANE RIGHT NEXT TO RIGHT NEXT TO A TRUE LANE. SO A BICYCLE HAS TO GO STRAIGHT. SO WE DO TRY TO MARK THEM OFF.

WE TRY TO DELINEATE THEM IN CASES WE DO MARK THEM SEPARATELY TO YOU KNOW AS S IS APPROPRIATE. AND THERE IS ALSO DESIGN STANDARDS FOR DOING THAT. SO SOME OF THE FLOWER POTS AND SO FORTH MAY BE MORE IN THE IN THE VERY LIKE LOW VOLUME TRAFFIC PERHAPS BUSINESS DISTRICTS WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS AND YOU KNOW WE TRY

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TO AND PERHAPS AS A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BIKE LANES AND ROADWAY AND THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY AND SO FORTH SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE LOWER VOLUME ROADWAYS AND AND AS THE CITY GETS INVOLVED AND AS YOU GUYS GET INTO LOOKING INTO SOME OF THE THESE TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS ON THE LOCAL ROADS MAY TEND TO BE SMALLER. THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED TOO. OK. AS YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE PROJECT RIGHT HERE ON PINE ISLAND. WE DO HAVE A BIKE LANE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO LANES BECAUSE THERE IS A TURN LEFT RIGHT. YEAH. AND THAT HAPPENS WITH THE TURBINES BECAUSE LIKE YOU WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BICYCLISTS TO ALSO GO STRAIGHT. AND SO YOU KNOW WE WE TRIED TO DELINEATE THEM AND IT IS YOU KNOW IT IS SOMETHING OF AN ISSUE THAT THAT'S THAT OCCURS ON THE ROAD ON THE ROADS. I HAVE TO SAY KIND OF ON A SIDELINE PROJECT YOU'RE MOVING ALONG. IT'S NICE TO SEE THEY ARE REALLY MOVING ALONG. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY INPUT ON THE SAFETY ISSUES FOR BIKE LANES. I HAVE HEARD THAT THE CITY DOES HAVE A SAY SO IN WHAT SAFETY ISSUES THEY WOULD LIKE FOR BIG THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS RICHARD TORY'S DIRECTOR. HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING. YES. IN FACT WE GET INPUT ON ALL OUR MOBILITY PROJECTS FROM THE CITIES AND ALSO WE ATTEMPT TO GO THROUGH SOME PILOT PROJECTS TO FOUR FOR ADDRESSING SAFETY. SO THERE IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT IDEAS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT WE LOOK AT THAT MAKE MAKE SENSE AND THEN WE GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT THEM AND EVALUATE THEM AND SEE IF THAT WORKS. SO THOSE TYPE OF LIKE CHANGES THAT WE WOULD MAKE TO THE ROADWAY FOR SAFETY ARE DEFINITELY SOME WE CONSIDER AND WE GET THE BASICALLY THE INPUT FROM THE CITIES TO COME UP WITH SOME THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE MASSIVE RALLY ITSELF. SO YOU KNOW THERE IS CONSIDERATIONS WHEN WE LOOK AT IT YOU KNOW MAINTENANCE AND ALSO SAFETY FOR THE DRIVERS TOO. SO BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY CONSIDERED ON EVERY PROJECT. GOOD TO KNOW. ARE THERE ANY STATISTICS ON THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC BEING USED IN THESE BIKE LANES OR ACCIDENTS INVOLVED WITH BIKE LANES. WELL WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF MY STAFF ACTUALLY TRACKS THE ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.

THE F.D.A. HAS BASICALLY ACCUMULATED A LOT OF THAT DATA AND WE LOOK AT THAT JUST LIKE WE LOOK AT CRASHES FOR VEHICLES TO SEE WHAT THE REMEDIES WOULD BE. AND WHY THINGS ARE HAPPENING IS IT LIGHTING YOU KNOW VISIBILITY IS SOMETIMES A BIG PROBLEM TOO. SO YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S PART OF STATE DATABASE. YES IT IS. OK. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EASILY ACCESS YEAH WE CAN ACTUALLY SEND YOU LINKS OF WHAT WE USE AND HOW WE EVALUATE. YEAH THERE'LL BE NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. FISHMAN LET'S START WITH THE BACK TO THE BUSES. SORRY THERE'S ANOTHER SEAT HERE SO YOU CAN ALL GO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS I GET ABOUT THE BUS ABOUT BUSES IS THE BUS STOP ITSELF.

THERE'S NO PLACE FOR ELDERLY TO SIT AND THEY'RE IN THE 90 DEGREE WEATHER. THAT IS VERY COMMON FOR US WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT NEW ROUTES AND PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER. ARE WE ALSO LOOKING AT ADDING ADDITIONAL SEATING FOR THOSE BUS STOPS POSSIBLE COVERINGS FOR THOSE BUS STOPS. BECAUSE ESPECIALLY WHO I REPRESENT THEY SAY THEY WOULD USE THE BUS MORE BUT THEY CAN'T SIT THERE FOR 15 MINUTES IN THAT HEAT OR STAND THERE FOR 15 MINUTES IN THAT HEAT. SO ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT YES WE ARE AS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT IMPACT PLACEMENT OF BUS STOPS OR SHELTERS OF VERSUS RIDERSHIP.

TYPICALLY OUR SYSTEM WE LIKE TO PUT A SHELTER WHERE THERE IS A MINIMUM OF 20 RIDERS PER DAY BECAUSE UP TO THIS POINT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE DOLLARS THAT WE'VE NEEDED TO PLACE ALL THE SHELTERS THAT WE NEED IN THE COUNTY. RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT ABOUT JUST UNDER 5000 BUS STOPS COUNTYWIDE AND ABOUT 25 28 PERCENT OF THOSE HAVE BUS SHELTERS. THERE'S ALSO THE OTHER LIMITING FACTOR WHICH IS AVAILABLE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE IN MANY CASES IT JUST ISN'T THE RIGHT OF WAY TO SITE A SHELTER. BUT IT IS OUR OBJECTIVE AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PLAN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE

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DONE EVERY YEAR IN THIS PLAN IS TO ADD A REPLACE 75 BUS SHELTERS A YEAR COUNTYWIDE WITH THE FIRST YEAR WE SPEND 250. BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY ED IT IS DEFINITELY OUR INTENT TO PLACE BUS SHELTERS WHERE WE CAN IT IS MANY PLACES WE CAN GIVEN RIGHT AWAY RESTRICTIONS I WAS IN TALLAHASSEE FOR A SESSION THIS YEAR AND IN TALLAHASSEE THEY HAVE THE CITY TROLLEY SYSTEM AND WITH THAT SYSTEM THEY HAVE IT SO THAT THE THE SIGN THAT DESIGNATES THAT THIS IS A TROLLEY STOP HAS TWO LITTLE SEATS ON THE SIGN ITSELF MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT FOR THE LOWER RIDERSHIP. SO AT LEAST THERE'S SOMETHING THERE FOR FOLKS TO SIT DOWN. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. THANK YOU. I ALSO SAW THAT THERE IS A PROPOSED EXPANSION OF PINE ISLAND ROAD ON THAT SIDE. YES. BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND BIG NOW. YES. YEAH FROM FOUR TO SIX LANES. YES. ARE WE ALSO FACTORING IN THE NEW CROSSWALK SYSTEM THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THE MONEY TO PUT IN THERE WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN AND SO PLANNING THAT THE PROJECT OUT. YES OF COURSE WE GET TO WITH THE MISSPELLING DO WE BIKE LANES WE LOOK FOR PROTECTING THOSE BIKE LANES AS BEST WE CAN TOO. SO YES DEFINITELY. IT'S NOT SCHEDULED THAT AS EARLY ON IN THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW BUT IT DEFINITELY AS WE GO THROUGH THE PLANNING AND DESIGN WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND MAYBE WE CAN DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME. YEAH. OH THAT'S THAT'S SO THEY GET BACKING PROJECTS RIGHT. GREG LIKE A CORRIDOR. SO YEAH AND YEAH SO BUT THAT WHEN WE DO PLAN AND DESIGN WE DEFINITELY WOULD CONSIDER THAT. YES. EXCELLENT. OK.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THE SMART COUNTY AND THE DATA SENSORS WHAT WOULD THE DATA SENSORS. WHAT INFORMATION WOULD THE DATA SENSORS BE GATHERING ON THE INDIVIDUAL VEHICLES. IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF SENSOR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PASSENGER COUNTERS. SO WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE AT A PARTICULAR STOP ARE GETTING ON AND OFF OF A COMMUNITY SHUTTLE. SO WE HAVE THAT TYPE OF DATA. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH STREET LIGHT AND WAYS. SO THERE IS DATA ABOUT TRAFFIC CRASHES CONGESTION. WE'RE GONNA HAVE DATA WITH RESPECT TO LANE CLOSURES. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL SENSORS THAT ARE ON STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE ON VEHICLES YOU WANT TO KNOW ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AND YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PASSING THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT HAVE THEIR BLUETOOTH OPEN A BLUETOOTH BLUE TOWED CAPTURES BLUETOOTH. SO EVERYBODY WHO'S DRIVING PAST THAT SENSOR THAT HAS BLUETOOTH CONNECTIVITY AND THEN THERE'S A GOOGLE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYONE WHO HAS GOOGLE MAPS OPEN THAT PASSES THE SENSOR. IT'S JUST A COUNTER HOW MANY PEOPLE. AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO STREET LIGHT DATA THEY CAPTURE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE OPEN UBER AND LYFT DRIVER APPS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE UBER AND LYFT RIDES ARE HAPPENING AND KIND OF THE PATTERNS OF THAT. SO IT'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF DATA DEPENDING ON THE SENSORS. IT'S NOT LIKE RED LIGHT CAMERA DATA THAT YOU'RE GATHERING. IT'S NOT A PHOTOGRAPH. NO. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. GALAN. WHO'S ON THE WHO'S ON THE OVERSIGHT BOARD. CAN WE GET A LIST. ACTUALLY WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL I'LL PULL THAT BACK UP FOR YOU. AND WHAT. WHO'S ON THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY. SOME MEMBERS OF THE OVERSIGHT BOARD GOOD QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE ALL OF THAT HERE. WHAT I CAN VERY QUICKLY TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHILE I TRY TO GET TO THAT IS YOU'RE GONNA SEND A THAT LINK SURE THIS ISN'T W W W DOT PENNY FOR TRANSPORTATION DOT COM THERE'S AN OVERSIGHT BOARD TAB ON THE WEB SITE AND IF IT WILL OPEN FOR ME BE NICE THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY IS IDENTIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE AND IT RIGHT HERE YOU HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FAA YOU CENTER FOR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES A DESIGNEE OF THE BROWARD COUNTY COUNCIL CHAMBERS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DESIGNEE OF HISPANIC UNITY DESIGNEE OF THE URBAN LEAGUE OF BROWARD COUNTY A DESIGNEE OF THE BROWARD LEAGUE OF CITIES AND ITS DESIGNEE OF THE BROWARD

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WORKSHOP THOSE SEVEN PEOPLE COME TOGETHER AND THEY IDENTIFIED THE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE OVERSIGHT BOARD IN AND AGAIN THAT'S WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT IN THE ORDINANCE THEY'RE CATEGORICAL. SO THERE ARE EIGHT CATEGORICAL MEMBERS AND THEN THERE IS ONE PERSON THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE BASED ON THE THEIR TITLE THE JOB THAT THEY DO FOR BROWARD COLLEGE. SO IT'S THE DISTRICT DIRECTOR OF THE BROWARD COLLEGE OFFICE OF SUPPLIER RELATIONS AND DIVERSITY IT GOT CUT OFF. BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT SAYS. SO THERE IS A CATEGORY FOR A RESIDENT CONSUMER OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. OK A CATEGORY FOR A FORMAL FORMER CITY OR COUNTY MANAGER. ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES ENGINEERING OR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT LAND USE AND URBAN PLANNING ARCHITECTURE FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING. THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE TWO FINANCIAL POSITIONS IS BECAUSE THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF THE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS ON FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY. THEY'RE SELECTING PROJECTS ONLY BASED ON ELIGIBILITY UNDER THE STATUTE AND REASONABLENESS OF THE EXPENSE. SO THEIR JOB IS LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECT IS ELIGIBLE UNDER THE STATUTE AND THEN MONITORING RABID REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES IT'S A VERY IT'S GOT A STRONG FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT COMPONENT. THEY ALSO DO THE FINANCIAL AND PROGRAMMATIC AUDITS THEY OVERSEE THE AUDITS THAT ARE DONE OF THE PROGRAM. AND THE IDEA OF HAVING THEM TWICE REMOVED FROM POLITICS IS TO ENSURE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS ARE THERE FIRST OF ALL THEY'RE PROHIBITED FROM HAVING ANY BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP. THEY CANNOT WORK FOR OR HAVE ANY PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH ANYONE WHO'S RECEIVING SURTAX DOLLARS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF THEM ARE RETIRED BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND VOLUNTEERS TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK THAT DON'T HAVE SOME CONNECTION TO EITHER THE STATE THE COUNTY THE MUNICIPALITIES THE MPO BUT YOU CAN GO TO THIS OVERSIGHT BOARD TAB ON OUR WEB SITE AND ALL OF THE MEETINGS ARE THERE VIDEOS OF THE MEETINGS AND THE MINUTES ARE ALL THERE AS WELL ON THE AGENDA FOR THE UPCOMING MEETING WHICH IS ACTUALLY THIS THURSDAY IS ALSO THERE. AND THAT IS WHERE IT TAKES ONE HOUR TO PLAN IS ALL IN THERE AS WELL. YES. AND THEN JUST A QUESTION FOR TAMARA. CAN WE GET A COPY OF THE REQUEST OF THE TWIN 45 MILLION PROJECT. AND THEN WHAT'S THE CAUSE OF MANY BUSH SHUTTLE. JUST ONE MORE CHANCE. WHAT STATE IS BROWARD COUNTY IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARTNERSHIP WITH WAS OR WAYS MAGICALLY AGREEMENT MY TEAM. WELL SO FAR WE'VE ALREADY ENTERED INTO THE RELATIONSHIP WITH WAYS. THERE WAS NO FINANCIAL COMMITMENT REQUIRED WE'RE BASICALLY TRADING DATA RIGHT. M.I.T. THE ENGAGEMENT WILL START IN DECEMBER WHEN THEY FINISH UP IN LONDON AND MAGICALLY IS RIGHT NOW AN INFORMAL PARTNERSHIP WHERE WE'RE JUST TRADING DATA AND INFORMATION. THEY'RE KIND OF GIVING US ACCESS TO A LOT OF THEIR TECHNOLOGY AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY'LL START TO PARTICIPATE IN LIKE WORKING GROUPS ON INNOVATION. WE NOW HAVE A CHIEF INNOVATION OFFICER THAT'S WORKING WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. THE BIKE LANES. DOES IT REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE BIKE LANES GIVEN THE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS THAT OCCUR IN FLORIDA. ACTUALLY HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF BICYCLE DEATHS IN THE COUNTRY. AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION INCREASED THE STANDARD WIDTH FROM FOUR FEET TO SEVEN FEET. OUR BIKE LANES GOING TO BE 70 A STANDARD WITH IS IS IS BASICALLY ITS OPTIMUM WITH. THAT'S NOT REALLY STANDARD WIDTH IS FOUR FEET IS THE MINIMUM. THEY USUALLY SHOOT FOR FIVE FEET AND THEN THEY PUT THAT SEVEN IS FIVE FEET PLUS A TWO FOOT BUFFER AREA. SO IN THAT REGARD THAT THAT'S THEIR STANDARD. BUT DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE BIKE LANES OR SHOULD WE TELL THE COMMUNITY THAT BASED ON OR ARE THE CHANGES THAT YOU INTEND TO INCLUDE IS THAT KIND OF REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF ACCIDENTS OR DEATHS FROM BIKE LANES. YOU'RE SMART. YOU MUST DO AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH THE OVERALL TRAFFIC MOBILITY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHAT I THINK WHAT THE APPROACH THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS WE NEED TO TAKE EVERY AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S NO WE NO LONGER HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO ADD MORE LANES. WE NO LONGER HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO WIDEN LANES AND EXPAND

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THEM IN MANY SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES. WE DO WANT TO DO IT. SO WE WANT TO TAKE EVERY EVERY OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE AND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDES OUR MASS TRANSIT. THOSE OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDE IMPROVING INTERSECTIONS. THOSE OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDE PEDESTRIANS SIDEWALKS AND THEN BY BIKE LANES. IT'S ONE COMPONENT OF IT AND I AND I SHARE YOUR CONCERN. I THINK YOU KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUE THAT THE SAFETY ISSUES AND DO THAT TO THE BEST EXTENT. BUT I THINK IT'S I THINK OUR APPROACH TO MOBILITY HAS TO BE A COLLECTIVE APPROACH AND WE NEED TO TAKE ALL OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO US. AND THEN IT SAYS HERE IN OUR COUNTRY THAT THE O.T. RECOMMENDS BUFFERED OR PROTECTED BIKE LANES. HOW WHAT'S OUR BUFFER DESCRIPTION.

WELL THAT BUFFERS WHICH STRIPING YES. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.

THEY DO RECOMMEND IT. IT'S PART OF BEING THE GREEN BOOK TOO. THEY THEY RECOMMEND TO PROTECT THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SEPARATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. OF COURSE WITH THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF RIGHT AWAY WE HAVE THE CONSTRAINTS THERE. IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO THAT ON EVERY SEGMENT OF EVERY ROADWAY. BUT WE DO THAT THE BEST WE CAN.

IF WE HAVE THE ROOM AND THEN WE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT US ADDING OR COUNTY ADDING SEVENTY FIVE BUS SHELTERS EVERY YEAR AND THESE PLANS HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO IDENTIFY WHICH CITIES OR WHICH AREAS GET THE BUS SHELTERS FIRST. HOW IS THAT SCHEDULE DETERMINED. WELL WE LOOK COUNTY WIDE BUT AGAIN WE LOOK FOR RIDERSHIP WHERE THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP POTENTIAL IS THE RIDERSHIP EXISTING RIDERSHIP IS THEY NEED SHELTERS. WE ALSO OF COURSE I TALKED ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY RESTRICTIONS BUT WE ALSO LOOK TO THE CITIES BECAUSE AS PART OF MANY OF THE REQUESTS A NUMBER OF CITIES HAVE ASKED FOR BUS SHELTERS AS PART OF THEIR CAPITAL PROGRAM. SO IF IT'S PART OF THE CITY'S CAPITAL PROGRAM THEN WE WILL BUILD THOSE SHELTERS. THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE DO AS A COUNTY. OK. AND YOU DID REQUEST THAT AND THESE ARE CITY PROJECTS FOR TAMARACK AND YOU'LL SEE BUS SHELTERS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE SHELTERS TYPICALLY THE CITIES HAVE SHELTERS UP THERE DESIGNS THAT THEY'RE CHOOSING. OK.

SO THE CITY OF TAMARACK HAS ITS OWN CITY DESIGN. SO THAT IS THE STANDARD THAT WE USE WHEN WE PLACE A SHELTER AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RIDERSHIP IS IN TAMARACK AND THEN IN BROWARD COUNTY IN GENERAL. I KNOW IT IS IN BROWARD COUNTY. I CAN'T WELL YEAH I MEAN I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE SPECIFIC RIGHT ASH. YOU KNOW WE COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY BUS RIDERSHIP BUT IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL FIXED ABOUT RIDERSHIP IT CAN GIVE YOU AS COUNTY WE CARRY ABOUT 30 MILLION PASSENGERS COUNTYWIDE. BUT IT WOULD BE VERY VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TO SEPARATE THAT INTO CITY TAMARACK BUT NOT ONCE FOR COLLECTING DATA. OK. SO VICE MAYOR BLANCO ASKED ABOUT THE EAST WEST TRANSPORTATION. IT'S NICE TO WORK IN BOCA AND YOU SHOULD TAKE ME 5 NORTH TO THE SOUTHWEST 10TH STREET TO GET TO NINETY FIVE TRAFFIC'S ALWAYS BACKED UP TAKES FOREVER. WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THAT AREA EXPANDING THE ROADS OR POTENTIALLY ADDING RAIL THERE ANYWAY. WHAT ARE THE PLANS TO BE GETTING FROM THAT AREA NINETY FIVE WELL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MY TO WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M SO EXCITED TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY HERE. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. SO YES SOUTHWEST HISTORY. THERE'S A 800 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT THAT IS JUST ABOUT FULLY FUNDED IT'S ONLY SHORT. SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THIS POINT. AND SO THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. AND THAT IS GOING TO CONNECT THE SAW GRASS DIRECTLY TO NINETY FIVE. AND THERE'LL BE NEW DIRECT CONNECTIONS WILL BE MANAGED LANES. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT MAKES A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. EAST WEST TRAVEL IN THAT QUARTER. YOU. AND THEN BACK TO THE BIKE LANES. THEY'RE GOING TO BE REFLECTORS ON THE GROUND SO THAT IF A CAR'S GOING OVER THEY CAN FEEL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PASS THE LANE. YEAH YEAH YEAH. OK. SO IF I COULD. LET ME JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BIKE LANES ABOUT MPO HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING WHAT WE CALL COMPLETE STREETS TO TO THE AREA AND WE HAVE AN ANNUAL MEETING HERE IN THE REGION THAT BRINGS IN NATIONAL EXPERTS AND WE TALK ABOUT IT WE WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY AS WELL AS EFFORT TRYING TO PUSH TOWARDS WHAT THE NAME SAYS COMPLETE

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STREET. SO IT'S NOT JUST AUTOS. WE WANT TO ALSO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIANS BIKE RIDERS ETC.. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO BROWARD WAS HOSTED DOWN IN MIAMI LAST YEAR. SO THIS YEAR SO YOU KNOW WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET YOU AN INVITE OUT FOR THAT. OK. BUT WE REALLY SUPPORT IT AND WE FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE OVERALL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT OF A LOT OF CHRISTMAS BUSES YOU KNOW YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF BIKES STRAPPED TO THEM. I KNOW A LOT OF BIKES ON TRI RAIL.

SO THOSE ARE YOU KNOW FIRST MILE LAST MILE TYPES OF TRIPS THE BICYCLE IS ACTUALLY QUITE IMPORTANT. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIND A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM. THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THERE ARE SAFETY ISSUES FLORIDA HAS A REAL PROBLEM IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA HAS A PROBLEM BEYOND WHAT EVEN FLORIDA DOES. I WILL TELL YOU THAT BOTH THE STATE DOTY AND THE BROWARD MPO HAVE ADOPTED WHAT WE CALL VISION ZERO WHICH IS AN EFFORT TO REFOCUS OUR OUR FUNDING AND OUR INVESTMENTS INTO SAFETY PROJECTS AS PART OF OUR RECENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT. WE LOOKED AT ALL THE DATA ALONG WITH DOTY IN FACT WE'RE JUST MEETING WITH THEM LAST WEEK TO IDENTIFY ALL THE HIGHEST SAFETY LOCATIONS WITHIN BROWARD COUNTY. AND OUR PLAN IS GOING TO ASK THE STATE TO GO OUT AND STUDY ALL THE HIGHEST AND TO DEVELOP MITIGATION AND REMEDIATION. IT IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE MUCH OF OUR ROAD SYSTEM DOWN HERE WAS DESIGNED FOR MOVING AUTOS AND MOVING THEM QUICKLY. SO IF YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN OR BICYCLE YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT IT WE'VE GOT TO DO MORE EDUCATION AND WE NEED TO ALSO BRING BETTER DESIGNS WHICH I THINK WE'RE WE'RE LARGELY GETTING TO THE COUNTY NOW AS PART OF THAT AS WELL. SO I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE MORE WORK. ONE MORE QUESTION I THREW ON MY BIKE BUT I I STAY ON THE SIDEWALK. SO SPEAKING OF BIKES YOU HIGHLIGHTED THE GREENWAY THE BIKE PATH. SO I THINK IT GOES FROM SOUTH GATE AND THEN IT STARTS AT UNIVERSITY AND KIND OF JUST STOP RIGHT THERE. SO WHAT'S THE PLAN IN TERMS OF THE TIMETABLE TO CONNECT THE GREENWAY TO WHEREVER IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO NEXT TO THE GREENWAY LOCATED RIGHT AT THE EASTERN EDGE OF YOUR CITY THERE. THEY DID. THE INTENT IS TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING THE BIKE LANES FROM DOWN SOUTH CONNECTED TO THE EXISTING LINEAR PARK SYSTEM AND SO FORTH THAT THAT'S IN PLACE.

THAT WAS THE TIMEFRAME TO COMPLETE IT. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND IN SOME OF OUR GREEN WASTE PROJECTS TO BE HONEST PROBABLY A STRETCH THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT INTO THE FUTURE BECAUSE IN IN MORE IN THE BEGINNING WE WANT TO SORT OF FOCUS ON SOME OF THE CONGESTION TYPE PROJECTS. SO I I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. YEAH WE CAN PROVIDE THAT BUT IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT A LITTLE BIT. OK. AND THEN RAIL ARE WE GOING TO HAVE HIGHER SPEED RAIL OR JUST THAT SLOWS RAIL IN THE FUTURE BY GOING FROM EAST TO WEST OR ENOUGH THE SOUND LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A POINT WHERE WE CAN GET FROM BROWARD TO MIAMI OR BROWARD THE PALM BEACH IN 15 MINUTES OUTSIDE OF BRIGHTON. THAT'S A PRIVATE COMPANY. PROBABLY NOT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. OK. REALISTICALLY I MEAN YOU DO HAVE THOSE HIGH SPEED RAIL SYSTEMS IN EUROPE AND OTHER PLACES ACROSS THE WORLD BUT YOU KNOW HONESTLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE UNITED STATES HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED THAT THE TRACK OF TECHNOLOGY QUITE FRANKLY DOESN'T EXIST HERE TO DO THAT. IT DOES EXIST ELSEWHERE BUT I MEAN IF YOU'RE ASKING IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HIGH SPEED RAIL IN BROWARD I MEAN THAT'S MORE OF A FEDERAL QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF FEDERAL INVESTMENT. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW THE FEDERAL INVESTMENT IN TRANSIT IS ACTUALLY NOT NEAR THE LEVEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE TO SUPPORT HIGH SPEED RAIL. I MEAN IF YOU REMEMBER BACK DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION THAT WAS ONE OF HIS PRIORITIES. BUT RICK SCOTT SAID NO RIGHT.

SO IT'S MORE OF A FEDERAL ISSUE. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT HERE. RIGHT. BUT YOU GUYS TRACKING WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON. ALEX I KNOW TRUMP. TALK ABOUT IT AND THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. IS THERE A DATE ON. WE WE WE WE ARE AND WE HAVE PEOPLE IN LATIN WASHINGTON YOU KNOW WE THEY VERY CLOSE TO OUR NATIONAL ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE IN WASHINGTON. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING UP IN ABOUT A WEEK. WE CAN HAVE TO TALK TO OUR FEDERAL TRANSIT OFFICIALS AS WELL AS OUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT THE POSSIBLE WAYS OF BRINGING MORE FEDERAL DOLLARS INTO BROWARD. SO ABSOLUTELY WE STAY ABREAST OF ALL OF THE NEW FEDERAL LEGISLATION THAT RELATES TO TRANSPORTATION AND POTENTIAL

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FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND AS WELL AS THE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS THAT ARE THAT WE CAN BRING HERE THAT YOU DON'T WANT THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE TECHNOLOGICALLY IS BY AMERICA. WE ARE REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW TO BUY PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE OR MANUFACTURED IN AMERICA. THE LAW CURRENTLY SAYS BY THE YEAR 2020 70 PERCENT OF THE CONTENT AND ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE TRANSIT ROLLING STOCK PARTS MUST BE CONSTRUCTED HERE IN AMERICA. THAT DRIVES UP OUR COSTS BUT IT ALSO LIMITS THE TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS THAT OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE ADVANTAGES THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE. SO I MEAN THERE ARE WAYS TO WORK THROUGH THAT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE OF THE REASONS WE GO TO WASHINGTON IS TO KIND OF TALK TO OUR LEGISLATORS ABOUT MAYBE IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SOLVE BOTH ISSUES AND WE WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT BY AMERICANS SUPPORTING AMERICAN BUSINESSES. BUT YOU KNOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE TRANSPORTATION WORLD THAT EXISTS ACROSS THE WORLD ARE MUCH FURTHER ADVANCED THAN WE ARE HOW FAR BEHIND ARE WE COMPARED TO THE REST OF WORLD. BUT JUST COMPARED TO OTHER STATES IN OTHER COUNTIES TRANSPORTATION. WELL WE'RE NOT WE'RE BEHIND. NO DOUBT OF IF YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF THE WORLD I MEAN. I MEAN YOU SAID HIGH SPEED RAIL YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE SYSTEMS IN JAPAN. I MEAN THEY TRAVEL 220 20 20 50 MILES AN HOUR. I MEAN HIGH SPEED HERE IS CONSIDERED ALMOST 79 80 MILES AN HOUR. SO I MEAN THAT KIND OF TELLS A STORY IT'S FAR THOUGH THE TRANSIT SYSTEMS YOU KNOW WE'RE BEHIND. BUT THE REASON WE'RE BEHIND IS BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER HAD THE FUNDING THAT'S BEEN NECESSARY TO BUILD THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. WE HAD THAT NOW. SO IN RELATIVELY SHORT ORDER WE'RE GOING TO CATCH UP AND RELATIVELY SHORT ORDER WE'RE GOING TO PASS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY. THANK YOU. I LOVE YOUR POSITIVE ATTITUDE. DEFINITELY COMMISSIONER BOLTON I'LL ASK ONE QUESTION. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ONE HOUR. AND MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED ALL THE INTELLIGENT QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO ASK TWO QUESTIONS QUICKLY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY BUS SHUTTLES. THERE IS NO COMMUNITY BUS THAT GOES PAST 441 ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD INTO THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. AND THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE LONG BEEN LEFT OUT OF THE MIX. I'VE HEARD MAYBE IT'S LOW RIDERSHIP AND I'VE HEARD SEVERAL OTHER REASONS. BUT CAN YOU JUST SHED SOME LIGHT ON WHY THAT IS AND HOW WE CAN FIX THAT ISSUE. HEY I'M GOING TO ASK RANDY MCCOURT WHO'S A MANAGER WHO ACTUALLY MANAGES A COMMUNITY SHUTTLE PROGRAM. GOOD MORNING MY NAME'S BARNEY MCCOY DIRECTOR FOR SERVICE AND CAPITAL PLANNING FOR OUR COUNTY TRANSIT. TWO QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE EASTERN PORTION OF TAMARACK. WE ALWAYS COORDINATE WITH THE CITIES YOU KNOW TO HELP IT IDENTIFY WHAT THE NEEDS ARE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF THE SURTAX PASSING THOUGH WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP NEW RULES BE THAT A NEW SERVICE OR AN EXTENSION OF SERVICE. WE ALWAYS WORK WITH THE CITY TO COORDINATE THAT IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS COMMUNITY SHUTTLE PROGRAM WAS FUNDED. IT WAS A 15 DOLLARS SUBSIDY FROM THE COUNTY AND THE CITY BOUGHT THE REMAINING PORTION OF THAT. IT WAS ALWAYS A FISCAL CONSTRAINED SPECIFIC TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF GROWING THE SERVICE AND A POLL SURTAX ENVIRONMENT. SO AGAIN WE'VE COMMITTED TO FUND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE OPERATING FORWARD. SO AGAIN WE'RE WORKING WITH ALL NOT JUST TAMARACK BUT ALL THE CITIES TO DEVELOP NEW SERVICE AND NEW SERVICE PLANS. OK SO YOU'RE SAYING NOW IT WILL BE EASIER MORE MORE EFFECTIVE BUT WE'VE NEVER DONE AN ANALYSIS OF RIDERSHIP FOR THE EASTERN PORTION OF TAMARACK. SO AGAIN IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO DESIRE AND HAS A DESIRE TO DO WE WOULD SIT DOWN AND WORK WITH YOU TO DEVELOP A SERVICE PLAN. BUT AGAIN IN TERMS OF NO GOOD SERVICE OR YOU KNOW BEING GOOD FISCAL STORES WE WOULD ONLY MOVE FORWARD TO IMPLEMENT THE SERVICE IF WE THOUGHT THAT THESE RIDERSHIP OR THE SERVICE WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL OK. SO ON THAT LITTLE PIECE WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS FOR BOTH THE CITY AND TO THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE COMMUTER SHUTTLE PROGRAM I KNOW STILL WORKING WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF SOME SERVICE EXPANSION BUT AGAIN ALL THE CITIES WERE ASKED TO SUBMIT SERVICE PLANS OR MAKE REQUESTS FOR SERVICE AND AT THAT POINT WE START MEETING WITH THE CITIES AGAIN TO SEE WHAT POINTS OF INTEREST ISSUE INTEREST IN CONNECTING THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SERVE AND WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE. SO WE'VE MISSED THE BOAT OR THINK WE CAN DO IT YOU CAN DO IT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY ARE INVOLVED THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING WITH THE CITY TO ADDRESS THAT. SO WE CAN DO YES YOU

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CAN AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE OVERSIGHT COMMUNITY I DIDN'T NECESSARILY SEE THE CRITERIA I SEE AS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE AND THAT'S THE STAFF WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING OR HOW THEY ARE AFFILIATED TO. BUT WHAT WERE THE CRITERIA. CERTAINLY. AND IF YOU WOULD INDULGE ME MAYOR MAY I RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER GALEN SO THAT I CAN LEAVE THIS PARTICULAR. OK. SO COMMISSIONER GALEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE TIMING FOR THE GREEN WAYS AND ONE IS SCHEDULED FOR 20 35 AND THE OTHER IS SCHEDULED FOR 2036. AND I WANTED TO JUST AUGMENT WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID ABOUT THE GREENWAY IS WHAT YOU SEE IN THESE MAPS IS WHAT WE ARE SPENDING SURTAX DOLLARS ON OR WHAT WE PROPOSE TO SPEND OUR TAX REVENUES ON IN THERE CONNECTING TO EXISTING SYSTEMS OF GREEN WASTE JUST LIKE OUR FIBER. IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR FIBER MAP YOU'D SEE IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IT WASN'T CONNECTING TO ANYTHING BUT WHAT IT IS IS IT'S JUST SHOWING THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN WHAT'S FUNDED WITH SURTAX DOLLARS AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER MAP THAT WE HAVE. I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME BUT IT SHOWS THAT IT'S CONNECTING TO EXISTING GREEN WAYS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE OVERSIGHT BOARD IT CRITERIA FOR THE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS IN THE ORDINANCE AND I'M SORRY I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THE WHILE YOU'RE HERE WITH TAMARACK ON THAT.

I'LL BE 62 WHEN IT'S DONE OKAY. RIGHT. SORRY. SO THE TAMARACK ON THAT MAP. LET ME GO ABOUT ALL RIGHT. WE CLOSED. OKAY. SO THE QUESTION THE QUESTION IS WHERE'S TAMARACK ON THE MAP. AND THESE ARE THE TWO GREENWAY IS THAT I JUST CLICKED ON TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT'S THE 20 35 LEG YOU'LL BE ABLE ARRIVE AND THEN YOU HAVE 20 36 CALLS FOR THE DEPARTMENT MAKE AROUND THIS IS EARLY THIS IS THE 20 24 TWENTY TWENTY SIX OK. NO PROBLEM. SO THE CRITERIA FOR THE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS SIMPLY THAT THEY MAY MEET THESE CATEGORIES SO TO MEET TO BE SELECTED YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE AND HAVE A PROFESSIONAL THE RESUME IS OBVIOUSLY SENT IN IT'S EVALUATED BY THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR ADEQUACY AND EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HAD TO DEMONSTRATE THEY HAD TO SEND A PACKAGE THEIR INTENT. IF THEY HAD ANY EXPERIENCE IN TRANSPORTATION OR INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED PROJECTS OR PROGRAMS COMMUNITY SERVICE. SO THIS PERSON HAS TO HAVE AN ACCOUNTING DEGREE. THERE WERE FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT I THINK CPA BACHELORS DEGREE IN ACCOUNTING MASTER'S DEGREE IN ACCOUNTING.

THIS PERSON HAS TO HAVE A DEGREE IN FINANCE AND HAVE DEMONSTRATED PROFICIENCY AND PRACTICE IN THE FIELD OF FINANCE WITH A PREFERENCE I THINK FOR TRANSPORTATION OR INFRASTRUCTURE IN A GOVERNMENTAL SETTING ARCHITECTURE. OBVIOUSLY THIS PERSON IS HAS TO BE A LICENSED ARCHITECT. ANGELA IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING I KNOW THAT THERE WERE CERTIFICATIONS SOME OF THESE HAD PARTICULAR PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATIONS OR LICENSES THAT ALSO HAD TO BE DEMONSTRATED AND I BELIEVE ARCHITECTURE WAS ONE OF THEM LAND USE AND URBAN PLANNING. AGAIN BOTH A DEGREE AND PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE IN THAT FIELD. THIS WAS AN OR A PERSON WAS EITHER QUALIFIED AS AN ENGINEER OR IN THE FIELD OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE THE INDIVIDUALS IN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEGREES THAT MET THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST AND THIS PARTICULAR PERSON IS ACTUALLY AN ATTORNEY THAT PRACTICES IN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES.

AND THEN THE FORMER CITY OR COUNTY MANAGER AS VERY SPECIFIC. THEY HAD TO I BELIEVE THEY HAD TO BE A CITY OR COUNTY MAN. I'M SO SORRY BUT THAT IS MY PHONE. THEY HAD TO HAVE WORKED AS A CITY OR COUNTY MANAGER IN I BELIEVE THE STATE OF FLORIDA. MY RIGHT

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ABOUT THAT ANGELA AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE RESIDENT CONSUMER OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION HAD TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY WERE UTILIZING OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THIS PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL IS A REGULAR USER OF THE POWER OF TRANSIT SERVICES. PROVIDED BY BCG AND AGAIN JUST TO GO BACK THIS PERSON WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE BY THEIR POSITION WITH BROWARD COLLEGE. SO THAT PERSON IS AUTOMATICALLY A MEMBER OF THE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO BEING REMOVED I'D ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE. FORGIVE ME. I WILL TRY TO DELETE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN ANSWERED ALREADY. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME. WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR YEARS. THIS FACT THAT IT PASSED THIS YEAR'S ELECTION CYCLE GREAT. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO IT FOR YEARS PASSED ON AND IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO FIX THAT WHICH WAS NOT PLANNED FOR IN THE BEGINNING. SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND CERTAIN THINGS WILL BE IN A CERTAIN TIME OF YOUR LIFE MAY NOT BE IN CERTAIN TIMES FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES AT LEAST WE'RE TRYING TO FIX IT NOW. WHEN THEY MADE WHEN FLORIDA WAS BEING CREATED OR ESTABLISHED IT WAS MORE RETIREMENT. IT WASN'T AS ACTIVE IT WAS GOING TO PLAY GOLF WE'RE GOING TO GO SWIM YOU'RE GOING TO GO PLAY WITH THE MOUSE YOU'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO BE GOING TO WORK WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING NOW. SO NOW WE HAVE TO DO A LOT OF FIXES AND WE'VE GOT GROWTH THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO PLAN FOR TO HAVE THE RESIDENTS BE HERE TO UTILIZE THE TRANSPORTATION. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR PLANNING AND YOUR PATIENTS AND WORKING WITH US FOR WHAT WE NEED FOR OUR CITY. I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE ALL OVER THE PLACE SO FORGIVE ME THE IOLA THAT WE STARTED BACK WITH IN THE BEGINNING WHEN IS THAT GOING TO THE COMMISSION COUNTY COMMISSION AND IN JUNE IT WAS WE'RE TRYING. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING HIT BEFORE THE BREAK SO WE'RE WE'RE BACKING UP TO SOME DEADLINES FOR OUR OWN AGENDA PREPARATION PROCESS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY REMAINING COMMITTED TO GIVING OUR MUNICIPAL PARTNERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INPUT SO WE DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF PUTTING SOMETHING ON OUR AGENDA THAT YOU ALL HAVEN'T SEEN AND THEN THE FEELING THAT YOU KNOW IT'S THE SHOTGUN WEDDING. SO I WAS ACTUALLY MEETING WITH ANGELA BEFORE THIS WORKSHOP AND WE ARE GONNA TRY TO HAVE A DRAFT PREPARED THIS WEEK THAT WE CAN DISTRIBUTE TO YOU ALL. I MEAN I WOULD LOVE TO SAY TODAY OR TOMORROW BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER REVIEWS THAT HAVE TO OCCUR WITHIN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN WE'LL SHIP IT OUT IN A DRAFT FORM.

THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE IT ON THE PRINTED AGENDA OR THAT NOTE FOR JUNE 11TH BECAUSE THAT'S IT FOR US. AND THEN WE'RE ON BREAK UNTIL AUGUST AND OBVIOUSLY WE REALLY REALLY REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET ALL THE ORDINANCE THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT ALL OF WHICH NEED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EMPLOYEES.

I'LL LAY DONE BEFORE THE OVERSIGHT BOARD ACTS ON F Y 20 BUDGET SO THAT OVERSIGHT BOARD IS SLATED TO ACT ON THE FBI 20 BUDGET. AGAIN THIS WILL BE COUNTY PROJECTS ONLY BECAUSE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE COMING LATER THROUGH THE MPD PROCESS. BUT THAT WOULD BE IN JULY SO NOT TRYING TO HAVE A DEFEATIST ATTITUDE TO TRY TO BE PREPARED. SO WE'RE THINKING THAT WE'LL HAVE THIS AGREEMENT SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK 10 DAYS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND REVIEW GET BACK TO YOUR OFFICES HOPEFULLY SIGNED BY JUNE 11TH. THIS IS FOR ALL 31 CITIES. NO NO NO NO. SO ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST GIVE US COMMENTS. SO IT GOES TO OUR BOARD ON JUNE 11TH. AND THEN YOU ALL HAVE THE WHOLE SUMMER TO CIRCULATE IT AND GET 50 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION CITIES REPRESENTING 50 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION TO SIGN THE ENTIRE LOCAL AGREEMENT SOMETIME IN AUGUST. RIGHT. OK. YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT THAT CRAZY JUST I COULD JUST SECONDS. WE GOT TO CLEAR A LOT OF SCHEDULES YOU KNOW. THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED IN A FIVE YEAR PLAN. YOU KNOW THAT'S BEEN A BIG THING IN MY HEAD. NOW HOW ABOUT BONDING AGAINST IT. CONFIRMING WEAKENS IF ONCE WE GET THE APPROVAL ON THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. IF WE'RE IN THERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO BOND AGAIN. YES BUT I WANT ON THE RECORD TO BE VERY VERY CLEAR. BECAUSE YOU CAN BOND AGAINST ANY OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN AND WE CAN WORK WITH YOU. BERTHA HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR SHE'LL SIT DOWN WITH ANY CITY BECAUSE I MEAN NOBODY'S IN THE MARKET AS MUCH AS THE COUNTY IS AND DO A LETTER OF CREDIT. THE ISSUE WILL BE THE COST OF THE PROJECT THAT GOES TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD. RIGHT. IS A PAY AS YOU GO COST SO IF A CITY CHOOSES TO BONDS THE DIFFERENCE

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BETWEEN THE PAY AS YOU GO COSTS AND THE BOND IS ON THE CITY. SO WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH YOU ALL DOING THAT. BUT I JUST WANT TO BE VERY VERY CLEAR THAT IF YOU CHOOSE TO TO HAVE DEBT SERVICE THAT DEBT SERVICES WILL BEEF ON THE CITY YOU REALLY SHOWED US WHERE WE CAN FIND HOW OFTEN THE OVERSIGHT BOARD MEETS THIS IS A REQUEST ROCK ISLAND. WHEN YOU DO THE BUS SERVICE I KNOW YOU'LL DO THIS ANYWAY BUT I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE STOPS THAT WILL NEED TO BE OR BUS SHELTER AREAS AND CARVE OUTS. WILL YOU PLEASE TALK WITH OUR CITY. WE HAVE SOME PLANS THAT ARE GOING FORWARD RIGHT NOW FOR DEVELOPMENT ALONG ROCK ISLAND AND WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE NO HITCHES LAST THE SAME REQUEST IS ALREADY BROUGHT UP ON PINE ISLAND. YOU HAVE PLANS. WE'VE HAD PLANS YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF OUR PLANS BUT JUST PLEASE INCORPORATE NOW TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T GO OH WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU MENTIONED LOCAL PARTICIPATION IS A GOAL OF 30 PERCENT. WILL YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LAYMAN'S TERMS FOR US. SORRY. NO WORRIES. SO WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED THIS TALK ABOUT A CERTIFIED BUSINESS ENTERPRISE. SO IT'S A SMALL BUSINESS. IT'S NOT REALLY A WB CV. IT'S A CBT PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE 30 PERCENT OF ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS IN THE PLAN.

AND THE REASON I SAY ELIGIBLE IS BECAUSE WHEN THERE'S FEDERAL MONEY WHEN A PROJECT'S FEDERALIZED. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND ON SOME STATE FUNDED PROJECTS WE PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT THAT MEANS THAT 30 PERCENT OF THE WORK AND THE FUNDS NEED TO BE STAYING LOCALLY WHERE THE TAXES ARE BEING GENERATED AND GIVEN ALSO WHAT WE MENTIONED ABOUT 10 PERCENT SERVICE INCREASE. AGAIN IN LAYMAN'S TERMS FOR A SERVICE INCREASE MORE BUSES ON THE ROADS. WHAT IS TURNING UP HEADWAY IN TIME. YES 10 PERCENT. BASICALLY RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THE SERVICE THAT OBVIOUSLY WE PROVIDE WE PROVIDE ONE POINT TWO MILLION HOURS OF REVENUE SERVICE. SO BY THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 2019 WE WILL ADD ANOTHER HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND HOURS OF SERVICE ON TOP OF THE ONE POINT TO BY THE END OF 2020. HE GETS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND ADDITIONAL HOURS ON TOP OF THE ONE POINT FOR. SO BASICALLY IF THERE IS A BUS ON ONE OF THE ROUTES I'LL CALL IT 88 AND IT MEANS IT COMES EVERY HOUR NOW POSSIBLY ABOUT EIGHTY EIGHT. WE'LL HAVE ONE EVERY HALF HOUR. RIGHT. YOU'LL SEE ONE NEW ROW YOU'LL SEE SHORTEN HEAD WEIGHS ON A NUMBER OF ROLES YOU'LL SEE EARLIER STARTS PRODUCE START OF SERVICE ON A NUMBER OF ROLES LATER RUNNING SERVICE ON SOME RULES AND BETTER WEEKEND SERVICE. OKAY GREAT. AND THEN WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT SHELTERS ALREADY. I KNOW THAT OUR CITY HAS ABOUT 18 OR THERE WAS A NUMBER OF SHELTERS WE WERE SHOWN IN ONE OF OUR PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE COMING SHORTLY OR AT LEAST PROVIDE BUS STOPS AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET MORE SHELTERS TO THEM UNDERSTANDING ON THE RIGHT WAYS. IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE RIGHT WAYS AND SOME OF OUR BUS SHELTERS BEFORE WE AUTOMATICALLY SAY NO TO THE SHELTER CAN WE TALK BECAUSE MAYBE WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO OWNS IT RIGHT AWAY AND WHERE WHAT WE COULD DO TO ACTUALLY GET MORE SHELTERS. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. AND ALSO YOU MENTIONED RIDERSHIP TO REPLACE SHELTERS OR YOU NEED RIDERSHIP TO GET MORE BUSES AND MORE SHELTERS. IT'S KIND OF A CATCH 22 HERE ISN'T IT. SO HOW DO WE DEFEAT THE CATCH 22. SO AS COMMISSIONER EFFICIENT SAID SHE HAS PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO RIDE THE BUS BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SHELTERS OR THE PROVISIONS FOR SO WHAT DO WE DO THAT KIND OF. AND THEY WILL COME TO. WELL TYPICALLY THE RIDERSHIP IS DEVELOPED BY DENSITY BASED IF THERE IS DENSITY OUT THERE AND THERE IS FREQUENTLY A REPORT THAT DENSITY THE RIDERSHIP TYPICALLY FOLLOWS THEN THE SHELTERS WILL TYPICALLY FOLLOW THAT. BUT IT IS WHAT WE HAVE FOUND OUT IN EVERY CASE WHERE WE HAVE INCREASED OUR HEAD WEIGHS OR INCREASED OUR FREQUENCY BETWEEN BUSES OR AN INTERVAL BETWEEN BUSES. WE HAVE SEEN RIDERSHIP GROWTH. SO WHEN THOSE NUMBERS CLIMB AND WE DO HAVE THE AVAILABLE RIGHT OF WAY IT WILL PLACE A SHELTER. THE ISSUE HAS BEEN OVER THE REALLY THE PAST 70 YEARS WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE THE DOLLARS TO PUT INTO THE SYSTEM TO GROW THE RIDERSHIP. BUT WE ARE FIRMLY CONVINCED THAT AS WE ADD MORE SERVICE AND PEOPLE BECOME MORE FAMILIAR AND UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT WHERE YOU PREVIOUSLY WAITED FORTY FIVE

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MINUTES FOR A BUS MAYBE THAT WAS 30 MINUTES OR 20 MINUTES THAT THE RIDERSHIP WILL GROW AND WE'LL PLACE MORE SHELTERS AND MAYBE WE JUST REPLACE A BUNCH MORE SHELTERS ANYWAY THEY GET THE RADISH IT ANYWAY AND I WOULDN'T MIND WAITING THAT 20 TO 25 MINUTES IN THE BOILING HEAT AND RAIN AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF AND WE JUST TRY IT WE'LL KNOW WHERE THE DENSITY SUPPORTS AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK. AND THE NICE THING IS THAT YOU ALL PUT IN FOR IT. SO YOU HAVE SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR THAT.

IT'S IN THE PLAN SO UNLIKE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. WELL THAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR RIDERSHIP. YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF WORKING WITH TRANSIT TO START PUTTING IN SOME OF THEIR SHELTERS. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS ALREADY KIND OF MENTIONED THAT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT FOR THE COMMUNITY BY SHUTTLE BUS FOUR TOPS AND GETTING THEM TO HAVE MORE PROGRAMS OR A STOP SEPARATE FROM WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TOP OF. SO HAVING WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOME MORE COMMUNITY BUS TRANSIT. WHAT ABOUT THE TOPS PROGRAM TOPS PROGRAM WILL ALSO BE FULLY FUNDED AS A RESULT OF THIS.

WE'RE ADDING WE'RE ACTUALLY PURCHASING AS WE SPEAK. ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX MORE TOPPS VEHICLES BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY THE PAST TWO YEARS THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN OVERWHELMED WITH GROWTH. WE JUST HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR RIDERSHIP STANDARDS AS A RESULT OF WE HAD 38 PERCENT GROWTH IN TOPPS RIDERSHIP OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

AND WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE VEHICLES TO KEEP UP WITH IT SO OUR OWN TIME PERCENTAGE OR TIME STANDARDS ACTUALLY DROPPED WITH THE INFUSION OF NEW VEHICLES THAT ACTUALLY BE ADDING 100 VEHICLES TO THE FLEET AND 46 OF THOSE WE'RE REPLACING OTHER VEHICLES THAT WILL BE RETIRED. WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR RIDERSHIP NUMBERS BETTER RIDERSHIP ON TIME PERCENTAGE WHICH IS BY CONTRACT NEARLY 2 PERCENT ON TIME. WE EXPECT IT WILL BE BACK UP TO 8 PERCENT AND WHEN I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN SOME OF THE NEW VEHICLES. THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF NEW VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. THEY'RE SMALLER TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE TO I GUESS GET SOMEBODY TO THEIR APPOINTMENT QUICKLY AND THEN GO TO SOME PICK SOMEBODY ELSE UP AND THEN COME BACK. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO WE FOUND THAT THE MIX OF VEHICLES IS DYNAMIC. ONLY 25 PERCENT OF OUR RIDERSHIP IS NOT AMBULATORY. SO YOU KNOW WE DON'T NEED ALL OF OUR VEHICLES TO BE THE BIG LARGER VEHICLES. SO WE'RE BUYING SMALLER VEHICLES. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM CALLED RIDERS CHOICE PROGRAM WHICH SOME OF OUR TOP CLIENTS HAVE FOUND TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE AND WE LIKE IT QUITE A BIT. AND THERE'S A COUPLE REQUIREMENTS THEY MUST HAVE TAKEN ONE HUNDRED TOPS TRIPS IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND THEY CANNOT TAKE MORE THAN TWO CAB TRIPS A DAY. BUT WHAT WE WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO IS CALL A DAY OF TRIP AND TAKE A TAXI CAB AND WE WILL PAY THE FIRST 18 DOLLARS OF THAT TRIP AND A LOT OF WHAT SOME OF OUR TOPS RIDERSHIP IS REALLY FOUND IT TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WITH THE TOPS PROGRAM A SCHEDULED THAT IS AT LEAST A DAY BEFORE RESERVATION AND IT'S A SHARED RIDE SYSTEM WITH THE TAXICAB PROGRAM OR THE RIDERS CHOICE PROGRAM. IT'S A SINGLE POINT TO POINT RIDE AND IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE FOR MANY OF THE AMBULATORY CLIENTS. SO IS THERE A LIMIT ON HOW MANY THEY CAN DO TO PER DAY TO PER DAY BUT SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK IF THEY IF THEY'VE BEEN PART OF THE TOPS PROGRAM RIGHT AND FOR A HUNDRED TRIPS FOR THE PREVIOUS PARTIES TOP FOR ROOM FOR YEAR WE'VE TAKEN 100 HUNDRED TRIPS TO THE ELIGIBLE RIDERS TWICE. THANK YOU. THIS IS PROBABLY FOR BILL. THE DEERFIELD BEACH PROJECT SORRY. QUESTION IS THIS BEING SUPPORTED BY THE CITY THE COMMISSION AND IF IT'S NOT WHAT IMPACT IS IT HAVING ON YOUR PLAN. OK. SO THE SELFLESS 10TH STREET PROJECT ACTUALLY HAS ITS OWN PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT TEAM OR GROUP THAT'S BEEN MEETING THAT INCLUDES RESIDENTS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM THE CITY. THEY CALL IT THE COAT AND I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON EXACTLY WHAT THAT STANDS FOR. BUT THAT'S SOME SOMEHOW THAT'S THE OUTREACH GROUP THAT OUTREACH GROUP ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF A BASIC KIND OF FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE. AND SO AS T STARTED TO DESIGN THAT THEY HAVE JUST RECENTLY GONE BACK TO THE COAT THEY HAD THE MEETING IN OUR OFFICES LAST WEEK TO PRESENT TO THEM HOW AND WHY THEY WERE ABLE TO MEET THE CRITERIA THAT THEY HAD LAID OUT AND IN SOME CASES WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET BUT THERE'S BEEN A VERY STRONG AND VERY EFFECTIVE PUBLIC

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OUTREACH THAT HAS OCCURRED INCLUDING 3D VIDEO IMAGING OF WHAT EVERYTHING'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. LOTS OF PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETINGS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO THERE'S BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF ENGAGEMENT THERE. AS YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT'S A PROJECT THAT HAS KIND OF LANGUISHED FOR PROBABLY ABOUT 20 YEARS IT'S BEEN ON THE DRAWING BOARD. SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING THAT IT IS MOVING FORWARD AND I THINK THE PUBLIC OUTREACH IS WAS REALLY CRITICAL TO MAKING IT MOVE FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S GET BACK TO BIKE LANES AND JUST A COMMENT BECAUSE I HAVE CONCERNS AND I'VE SHARED THIS WITH YOU THAT WE'RE TAKING NOTHING. BIKE LANES AREN'T NEEDED BUT AGAIN FOR CERTAIN ROADWAYS ESPECIALLY I CAN GIVE YOU SIXTY FOURTH AVENUE COMMERCIAL GOING TO WOODLANDS. THERE'S THIS LITTLE PIECE OF NOTHING THAT'S CALLED THE BIKE LANE GOING TO NOWHERE AND YOU HAVE A VERY TRAFFIC HEAVILY TRAFFICKED ROAD WHICH GOES BACK TO THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID. SO WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE PROJECTS AS MUCH AS WE WANT TO BUILD THEM TO FOR THEM TO COME I JUST ASK THAT WE TRULY CONSIDER MAYBE SOME MORE PUBLIC OUTRAGE TO FIGURE OUT IF IT WILL BE A WORTHY BIKE LANE IN THAT LOCATION AND WHERE THE LOCATIONS ARE SO IT WILL BE UTILIZED VERSUS IT BEING A FEELING OF OK WE'VE TAKEN A VERY POPULATED ROAD WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT A SHELTER OR A BUS SHELTER HERE OR THERE OR MAYBE EXPANDED THE ROADS SOMEHOW TO REDUCE TRAFFIC OR BIKE LANE THAT WILL NEVER BE UTILIZED JUST AGAIN COMMENTARY. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE RIDING THEIR BIKES IN THE BIKE LANE SAFELY AND IN AREAS. SO AGAIN YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE POPULATION. SO ALL ABOUT SAFETY CONCERNS. AND THEN ONE OTHER CONCERN IS ON THE DATA THAT'S GONNA BE CALLED. JUST PLEASE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WHATEVER AGREEMENTS YOU'RE SIGNING OR NOT SIGNING MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF WHAT THEY SHOULD BE EXPECTING. BECAUSE PEOPLE'S PRIVACY IS STILL VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM SO TO EACH OTHER DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY MAY HAVE A GOOGLE MAPS ON OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU SAID WITH THE BLUETOOTH THEY MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THEIR BLUETOOTH IS AUTOMATICALLY GIVING INFORMATION TO OTHER PEOPLE FOR AN INTENDED USE THAT THEY'D INTEGRATE IT. SO PLEASE JUST TAKE THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING INTO I UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY DATA IS IMPORTANT IT GETS US WHAT WE NEED. BUT JUST PLEASE TAKE THAT IN MY AND ON THAT NOTE I WILL THANK MY COLLEGE FOR THEIR GOOD QUESTIONS I SEE THAT MR. GUY HAS ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. AND JUST ONE QUESTION IN YOUR PROJECTIONS FOR THE FUTURE WHAT KIND OF CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE ARE TAKING NOW THAT WE HAVE UBER AND LYFT AND MORE COMPETITORS. DO YOU EXPECT RIDERSHIP TO GO DOWN NOW THAT THERE ARE CHEAPER AND MORE CREATIVE WAYS OF TRANSPORTATION HOW ABOUT CHEAPER BUT MORE CREATIVE. I EXPECT THAT THE FUTURE TRANSPORTATION WILL BE A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THE ABOVE AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO INTEGRATE THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELEMENTS INTO OUR SYSTEM. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE LAUNCHING THIS FALL WILL BE WHAT WE CALL MOBILE TICKETING IS WHERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BUY YOUR BUS TICKET OR YOUR PHONE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT INTEGRATING BOTH THIS AND LYFT BUT OTHER TENSES AS PART OF THAT PLATFORM WE'RE LOOKING AT INTEGRATING THE OTHER TRANSIT PROPERTIES IN THE REGION TO TRY REAL 788 MIAMI-DADE TRANSIT AS WELL AS PALM TREE AND INTO A SINGLE REGIONAL APP THAT WE CAN HAVE SEAMLESS TRAVEL THROUGHOUT SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. BUT IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP GROWTH I THINK RIDERSHIP AS A SYSTEM AS A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. I FULLY EXPECT THAT ONCE WE GROW OUR SYSTEM THAT WE WILL SEE A RIDERSHIP GROWTH ON ON FIXED ROUTES BECAUSE THE REALITY IN BROWARD COUNTY IS THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW. AND WE ARE GOING TO DO ALL THE THINGS THE VERY BEST WE CAN TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT COMMUTES ON SOME OF OUR QUARTERS. AND WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THE NEED TO MOVE LARGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE ON CERTAIN QUARTERS BECAUSE THEY WILL BE MATCHED UP WITH EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING. RIGHT. NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD A CAR AND NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO OWN A CAR. SO YOU WILL SEE I THINK A GROWTH IN THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SECTOR BUT IT WILL BE GROWTH NOT ONLY IN THE FIXED BUS SECTOR BUT IT WILL BE A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED. AND WILL YOU HAVE THE

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TECHNOLOGY WHERE INSTEAD OF WAITING A HALF HOUR FOR THE NEXT BUS WHEN YOU TAKE UBER AND LYFT THEY TELL YOU MINUTE BY MINUTE WHEN THAT CAR IS COMING. SO SOMEONE DOES AND THE WAY THE BUS FOR A HALF HOUR THEY CAN LEAVE THEIR HOUSE 10 MINUTES UNTIL AND THEN GO TO THE BUS STOP IN THE BUSES RIGHT THERE. WE'VE HAD THAT TECHNOLOGY ON OUR SYSTEM FOR PROBABLY THREE YEARS. OK. SO IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A NEW RAMP YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A BCG APP AND YOU CAN GO ON YOUR PHONE RIGHT NOW BY ANY BUS IN THE SYSTEM IT'LL TELL YOU ANY BUS STOP IN THE SYSTEM IT WILL TELL YOU THE TIME NEXT THREE BUSES THAT COME. OK. I'M TAKING A BUS INSIDE OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAD THE F.. WELL IT'S ABOUT TIME. I THINK WE HAVE EXHAUSTED ALL THE QUESTIONS. FOR NOW I'M SURE YOU'RE RELIEVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR TIME YOUR PATIENCE. GOOD SEEING YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I HAD PROMISED A BREAK AROUND SOME FORTY FIVE IT IS CURRENTLY TEN FIFTY SEVEN. SO LET'S JUST TAKE A BREAK AND BE BACK HERE AT 11:00 10:00 SHARP. PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL TRY OUT FOR IT. ALL RIGHT. FORTY FOUR WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD. IT IS ELEVEN ELEVEN MAKE A WISH EVERYBODY PRESENTATION FOR WOOD WOOD SPRINGS SUITES

[2. Presentation - Woodsprings Suites Public Art Easement]

PUBLIC ART EASEMENT. WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MAXINE CALLAWAY AND OUR PUBLIC ART ADMINISTRATORS GEORGE GADSON AND BETH ROBERTS WELCOME SO MUCH.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GEORGE OK. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GEORGE GADSON GOT SET RABBITS. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE REGARDING THE WHISPERING SWEET EASEMENT PROJECT. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. A CALL TO ARTISTS WAS PLACED OUT FOR THE ARTISTS NATIONWIDE ACTUALLY TO RESPOND BACK IN OCTOBER 2018. THE SCULPTURE ON WEST COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD WITH THE WORDS SPRING SUITES HOTEL IS CURRENTLY BEING BEING BUILT. THE BUDGET FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AS WAS AGREED UPON BY THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE WAS ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WITH A CALL TO ARTISTS WENT OUT. WE HAD 39 ARTISTS RESPOND BETTER I THAN AFTER THE THE RESPONSE OF THOSE ARTISTS I REVIEWED THEM BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A CONTEXT HERE IS THE AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE LOCATION. THERE'S A 20 BY 30 FOOT EASEMENT WHERE THE ACTUAL ARTWORK WOULD BE PLACED. OH BOY I'M SO GOOD. I'M SORRY. SO HERE IS WHERE THE STAR IS LOCATED. IF YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE WE'RE NOW HEADED NORTH ONTO THE SAWGRASS RAMP. SO THE IDEA IS TO CREATE A SOME TYPE OF A REALLY WOW FACTOR HERE AT THIS LOCATION FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS LOOKING TO GET ON THE EXPRESSWAY OR EVEN TO GET OFF OF THE OPPOSITE. IF YOU IF YOU WILL TAKING THE EXIT SOUTH HEADING WEST RATHER EAST ONTO COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD HERE HERE'S A JUST ANOTHER LOCATION THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS WHERE THE EASEMENT IS HERE. AGAIN A 20 BY 40 A 20 BY 30 FOOT EASEMENT TO SECURE THE SCULPTOR SO THEY MENTIONED THE CALL TO ARTISTS WENT OUT. WE HAD THIRTY NINE ARTISTS THAT RESPONDED AND BASED UPON THE REVIEW OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE THESE THREE SEMIFINALISTS WERE SELECTED. THOSE GORGEOUS JUST HER BREAKING AND JAMES SIMPSON THE THREE OF JAMES SIMONS THE THREE OF THEM ACTUALLY CAME AND PRESENTED FLEW FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND ACTUALLY PRESENTED THEIR CONCEPTS TO THE COMMITTEE. FIRST YOU'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU.

GORDON YOU FIRST. HE GAVE A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION IN TERMS OF WHAT HE WAS PROPOSING FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. HE'S PROPOSING THAT THAT THIS SCULPTURE USING A DIKE OR GLASS AND BEST ALUMINUM WOULD BE ABOUT 21 FEET IN HEIGHT AND IT MIGHT OF COURSE WOULD BE LED BY LTV THE. YOU BROUGHT A MODEL THAT ACTUALLY SHOWED THE COMMITTEE. WE TOOK IT OUTSIDE RATHER NEAR THE WINDOW WHERE THE SUN WAS SHINING IN AND THE DIKE WORE GLASSES MATERIAL THAT ALLOWS THE SUN TO TO THE THE GLASS ITSELF IS REFLECTIVE AND ACTUALLY VERY NICE COLORS HERE'S JUST ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE STREET WITH US. THE ARTISTS ARE MAKING HIS FIRST SCULPTURE. HE PRESENTED HE ACTUALLY PRESENTED TWO CONCEPTS THAT WOULD BECOME A FREESTANDING SCULPTURE MADE OF STAINLESS STEEL LAMINATED GLASS AS YOU SEE HERE IN THE CENTER. AND THEN THE SAME IS STILL IN THIS AREA. HERE ARE CABLES THAT SIT ON A CONCRETE BASE HE PROPOSED IN TERMS OF

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LIGHTING INTERIOR LIGHTING SO THAT AT NIGHT IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE THE IMAGE OF THE SCULPTURE IS FLOATING EVEN GIVE YOU THE SEMBLANCE OF A LOTUS LOTUS FLOWER. THE SECOND CONCEPT HE PRESENTED WAS MORE WITH GEOMETRIC ORBIT DESIGN BY. TO MINISTER FULLER FREEZE ANY SCULPTURE MADE OF A DYKE OR GLASS AS WELL. AND THE DESK IS STAINLESS STEEL WHICH WOULD THIS AREA HERE. AND THAT ELIMINATES I'M SORRY A STAINLESS STEEL CABLES THAT EMANATES FROM THE CENTRAL STAINLESS STEEL TECTONICS.

THIS WAS THE SECOND IMAGE YOU PRESENTED. AND HE ALSO IN PART OF THE CALL ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WAS A LIGHTING ELEMENT. SO HE AND THE PREVIOUS ARTIST COMPLIED WITH THAT PARTICULAR REQUIREMENT. SO THIS IS WHAT YOU ENVISION AND COULD POTENTIALLY SEE AS WELL. AND THEN THE THIRD AND FINAL ARTISTS AS JAMES AND JAMES SIMON WHO FROM PENNSYLVANIA AND HE SUBMITTED SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY VERY DIFFERENT THIS FABRICATION WILL CONSIST OF STEEL PIPES AND RODS WITH A ROLLED PIPE PROCESS FOR THE WHEELS AND THE FENDERS AND THE ACTUAL SCULPTURE WILL BE MADE OF CONCRETE AND THEN COLORED WITH PIGMENTS MIXED IN WITH CONCRETE SEALERS. AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 18 FEET HIGH. SOME OF HIS HERE IT ISN'T SICK TOO. AND HE CAME OUT PRIOR. HE FLEW IN AND GEORGE MET WITH HIM ON SITE. HE WANTED TO SEE THE PHYSICAL LOCATION WHEN HE DECIDED ABOUT HIS SCULPTURE. AND IT'S TITLED THE BICYCLIST HERE'S SOME OTHER SUPPORT WORK OF HIS. HE'S DONE WORK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. AND HERE IS A WAR PIECE OF HIS AND HERE'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT IS IN TAMPA AT A PARK THAT I ACTUALLY VISITED. GEORGE AND I BELONG FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC ART PROFESSIONALS KNOWN AS FAR PATH. AND EVERY YEAR THERE'S A CONFERENCE IN FLORIDA A DIFFERENT CITY HOSTING. AND THIS LAST YEAR IT WAS IN TAMPA. AND JAMES SIMON HAD DONE THIS SCULPTURE IN TAMPA. AND IT'S VERY WHIMSICAL VERY NARRATIVE. IT KIND OF TELLS A STORY WHEREVER HE LOCATES HIS SCULPTURES. AND IN ADDITION IN TAMPA WHAT HE DID WAS HE USED EXISTING LIGHT BULBS LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT POLES AND HE DESIGNED A LAMPSHADE TO GO ON TOP OF IT OUT OF POWDER COATED ALUMINUM THAT WAS LASER CUT. AND SO AT NIGHT WHEN THE LIGHT WHEN IT'S LIT IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY IS LAMPSHADE AND IT WAS VERY VERY CHARMING. HERE'S SOME OTHER SUPPORT MATERIAL OF HIS THAT EXISTS. THESE SCULPTURES HE DECIDED NOT TO USE ANY COLOR. BUT AGAIN I WANT YOU LOOKING AT THE SCALE BECAUSE THIS IS THE SCALE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND YOU CAN SEE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING THERE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WITH THIS THIS IS THE SELECTION THAT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE CHOSE. AND GEORGE AND I ARE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS SUBMISSION BECAUSE IT'S SO DIFFERENT FOR OUR COLLECTION AND TAMARA AN IMPORTANT THING IS TO LOOK AT THE COLLECTION AS A WHOLE IMPORTANT THING WITH PUBLIC ART IS TO INCREASE THE VALUE OF YOUR COLLECTION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ART DOES. IF IT'S GOOD ART. ART IS MANY TIMES LIKE A GOOD STOCK. WE ALL KNOW IBM AND DIFFERENT STOCKS THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT WE CAN IF WE CAN GET IN AT A LOW PRICE. HOPEFULLY OVER TIME WE'LL BE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT. AND THAT'S THE SAME WITH PUBLIC ART AND THAT'S HOW GEORGE AND I MANY TIMES ADVISE THE COMMITTEE WILL SOMETHING INCREASE IN VALUE NOT JUST KEEP ITS VALUE WILL IT INCREASE IN VALUE SO THAT YEARS FROM NOW YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR COLLECTION AND SAY WOW WE'VE LIKE MADE TWO MILLION DOLLARS IF WE WENT AND SOLD IT TODAY OR SOLD A PIECE TODAY. SO THAT'S ONE ELEMENT THAT WE CONSIDER WHEN WE CHOOSE ART. THE SECOND ELEMENT WITH THIS PARTICULAR ARTIST IS THAT THE FIRST TWO ARTISTS GEORGE AND I ARE PUBLIC ARTISTS OURSELVES AND WE ALWAYS APPLY FOR PROJECTS ACROSS THE NATION AND WE COMPETE ACROSS THE NATION AS ALL OF THESE THREE ARTISTS DO. BOTH GORDON SCHUSTER AND RAY KING KEEP DOING VERY SIMILAR THINGS ACROSS THE

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NATION LIKE THEIR WORK IS FAMILIAR TO US. WE WE WOULD KNOW WITHOUT A NAME THAT THAT WAS GORDON HUGHES THERE BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE AND GORDON HUGHES THERE WAS A SEMIFINALIST FOR COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD PROJECT THAT ROGER STOLLER WON AND HIS PIECE IS THERE RIGHT NOW. GORDON DID NOT WIN HE WAS A SEMIFINALIST AND HE TOOK HIS WHAT HE TOLD US WAS A SITE SPECIFIC SCULPTURE SITE SPECIFIC TO TAMARA AND HE SOLD IT IN TEXAS. AND IT'S THERE AND I ALWAYS WHENEVER I'M A SEMIFINALIST AND I'M IN A PARTICULAR FIGHT. I WAS RECENTLY IN ARIZONA AND I SAID WHAT I WOULD DESIGN FOR YOU IN ARIZONA. I WOULD NOT PUT IN ALASKA. IT'S DIFFERENT. YOU WANT TO BE VERY SITE SPECIFIC TO WHERE YOU ARE. JAMES SIMON USED IMAGERY THAT HE FELT WOULD BE INDIGENOUS TO TAMARA BICYCLING AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE BICYCLING WAS A BIG WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS VERY MUCH DISCUSSED THIS MORNING WITH TRANSPORTATION WITH A YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHIC WE ARE TRYING TO INTRODUCE MORE BICYCLE RIDING. SO HE PUT HE PUT HIS SCULPTURE OF A BICYCLIST DOGS VERY VERY POPULAR MANY PEOPLE OWN DOGS IN THEIR HOMES AND A BIRD WHICH TAMARACK WE ARE IN A SOUTHERN CLIMATE AND WE DO HAVE BIRDS. ANOTHER REASON THAT I FEEL THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SCULPTURES THERE'S A VERY FAMOUS ARTIST CALLED RED GROOMS. AND I DO URGE YOU ALL TO GOOGLE HIM AND LOOK HIM UP RED GROOMS HAS A TWO POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLAR SCULPTURE DOWN IN MIAMI AT THE MARLINS STADIUM AS WELL AS ALL ACROSS THE NATION AND AS WELL AS HE IS VERY VERY POPULAR. AND JAMES SIMON IS KIND OF THE SAME GENRE AS RED GROOMS IS. AND THESE ARE ALL THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE SELECTED THIS PARTICULAR ARTIST IF I COULD ADD ONE THING AND IT RELATES TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE RESIDENTS OF TAMARACK BECAUSE IT IS A DIVERSE COMMUNITY. MUSIC AS YOU SAW THE GUITAR THERE AS WELL. AND EVERYONE RELATES TO MUSIC THE END. SO THAT WAS THE OTHER REASON THE ARTISTS CHOSE TO USE THAT PARTICULAR SYMBOL. BUT THE OTHER PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS WHAT DOES PUBLIC ART.

WHAT IS THE INTENT OF PUBLIC ART THE INTENT OF PUBLIC ART IS TO GET PEOPLE TALKING YES. PUBLIC ART IS VERY SUBJECTIVE. WE ALL HAVE OUR LIKES DISLIKES. PURPLE IS MY FAVORITE COLOR MAY NOT BE SOMEONE ELSE'S FAVORITE COLOR COLLECTION THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CITY IS A VERY ROBUST COLLECTION. WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU AND BUILD THAT COLLECTION. AND IT'S A VARIED COLLECTION.

AT THE SAME TIME MEMBERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE PIECE VEVO THAT ROGER STONE JUST RECENTLY DID SOME. SOME LOVE IT AND I HAVE A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHO LIVES AND WOULDN'T MIND WHO DOESN'T LIKE IT BUT MY POINT I'M MAKING IS THAT PUBLIC ART THE PURPOSE OF PUBLIC ART IS TO ADD TO THE AESTHETICS OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS BECAUSE WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL VISITS YOUR CITY THEY SEE THE ART THAT REALLY CREATES A SENSE OF PLACE. IT CREATES THAT WONDERFUL PLACE TO COME BACK TO. AND OH BY THE WAY AS I WAS LEAVING TAMARACK I SAW THIS FABULOUS SCULPTURE OF THIS GUY WHO DID ON A BICYCLE. IT WAS SO FUNNY IT WAS SO WHIMSICAL BUT YOU'VE GOTTA GO BYE SEE IT. SO WE WE IT'S AGAIN. THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE CAME WAS COMING BEFORE YOU RECOMMENDING JAMES SIMONS PIECE AS BEING THE PIECE THAT WILL GO ON THE SITE THAT WE SPOKE OF. WE WE ARE THE COMMITTEE IS NOT COMMITTED SPECIFICALLY TO ANY PARTICULAR COLOR THE ARTIST HAS ALREADY AGREED TO WORK WITH US AS THE COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF MODIFYING ANY COLORS THAT MAY BE REQUIRED OR MAYBE REQUESTED AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU SEE NOW. THOSE ARE OUR THOUGHTS AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE I PASS IT OFF TO MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK WHAT WERE THE EXACT REQUIREMENTS OF THIS PIECE FOR THIS SUBMISSION. COLORFUL WHIMSICAL SITE SPECIFIC TO TAMARACK. WE WANTED A CERTAIN

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HEIGHT. AND THIS IS 18 FEET TALL. I'D LIKE JUST THE SPECIFICS. NOT NOT POINTING IT TO WHICHEVER SCULPTURE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. I WANT TO KNOW THAT WAS A SPECIFIC HEIGHT.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT. WELL YOU MENTIONED WHIMSICAL COLORFUL SITE SPECIFIC HEIGHT PRESENCE DURABILITY DURABILITY IT'S ALWAYS THEIR ABILITY. DID YOU HAVE LIGHTING TO BE PERMANENT. LIGHTING IS A REQUIREMENT AND WE BEFORE WE EVEN OBTAIN THE EASEMENT REQUESTED OF PUBLIC WORKS TO PLEASE SPEAK ABOUT BRINGING CONDUIT TO THE SITE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. SO WE DID REQUEST THAT EARLY WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE. AND DO WE AND I KNOW IT'S STANDARD BUT I WANT TO BRING IT UP. DID WE HAVE IT FOR OUR LOCAL ARTIST ARTIST TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL. ALWAYS IT'S ALWAYS A AN OPEN CALL TO ARTISTS ACROSS THE NATION WHICH MEANS ANYBODY FROM ANYWHERE ANY STATE CAN APPLY AND THEN DID WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE IN THAT COMMUNITY. NO WE DID NOT BECAUSE THIS IS THE ENTRY WAY OR EXIT WAY TO OUR CITY ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD. I'LL GO BACK TO MY QUESTIONS A LITTLE BIT LATER AND I HAVE NOBODY FLIPPED SO BUT VICE MAYOR THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE NOW ONCE AGAIN THE PIECE BY RAY KING THOSE TWO PIECES OF THE SAME THING ONE IN DAYTIME WHEN HE SUBMITTED WHICH IS UNUSUAL. TWO DIFFERENT PIECES AND SO IT FELT LIKE AN EXCUSE ME AND I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE PIECES THE SECOND PIECE WITH THE CIRCULAR ORB. HE DID SAY THAT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE OWNS IN HIS STUDIO AND THAT WAS A RED FLAG FOR GEORGE AND I. AND THAT YOU KNOW HE IT'S IN HIS INVENTORY. SO WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT COULD BE SITE SPECIFIC TO TAMARACK SO WHEN YOU ASK FOR SOMETHING THAT'S SITE SPECIFIC YOU WANTED TO BE THERE SHOULD NOT BE A DUPLICATION.

WELL WE NOT ONLY WANT IT UNIQUE BUT AS AN EXAMPLE WHEN WE WORKED WITH ROGER STOLLER ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD JUST WEST OF ROCK ISLAND THE FIRST MODEL THAT HE PRESENTED WAS GENERIC. HE HAD JUST LASER CUT SOME ALUMINUM AND SHOWED IT TO US. HE WORKED WITH US TO MAKE IT INDIGENOUS TO TAMARA. WE WANTED FAMILY. WE WANTED FLORA AND FAUNA TO TAMARACK. WE WANTED OCEAN WATER SUN SWIMMING THINGS THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS MADE OF. AND HE WENT AND REDESIGNED FOR US. AND THE COMMITTEE APPROVED IT AND WE WERE VERY VERY PLEASED. IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MANY FEET HIGH PIECES BY RAY BY RAY KING.

HOW TALL IS RAY'S OF LAST YEAR. HASN'T THE FIRST ONE THE FIRST ONE IS 21. THANK YOU.

EVERYONE HERE. THEY'RE ABOUT THE SAME AGE AS YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT GORDON. YOU THINK SO. IS THAT HE MADE A DUPLICATE PIECE OR HE SOLD A FINALIST PIECE FROM WHAT HE DESIGNED FOR US. HE SOLD IT TO TEXAS. I DON'T LIKE THIS PIECE PRESENTED.

IT'S ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE FELT ALSO IT WAS ALL RIGHT. SO WE AGREE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU UNNECESSARY LIKE THIS LAST WEEK. YOU BET. IT'S GOOD TO LAUGH. THAT'S GOOD. I ACTUALLY LIKE THE PIECE THAT JAMES DID UP IN THE AMERICAN DOWNTOWN. IT'S SOMETHING I DO LIKE THAT PIECE. BUT. I MEAN THIS IS JUST A LOT GOING ON WITH THIS BIKE. I GUESS IT WILL YOU KNOW GET PEOPLE TALKING. WE ALSO SAW IT BEING THAT IT'S IN FRONT OF A HOTEL. I MEAN THIS IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR OUR CITY. SO IT'S FOR PEOPLE COMING ON OR OFF THE SAWGRASS NOT ON THE SAWGRASS. THEY'RE GOING TO FAST TO WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING 75 FEET HIGH. SO WE WE. THAT WAS NOT CRITERIA BUT ONCE HIS SUBMISSION CAME IN WE ALL LOOKED AT IT AS A GREAT PHOTO OP. PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING AT THE HOTEL. SO WE'RE BACK TO THE RAKING PIECE. SO DID

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THE PLANNING BOARD. NO I MEAN THE PLANNING BOARD THE ART COMMITTEE KNOW THAT IT HAD TO BE SITE SPECIFIC SO IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN. OH THAT'S. THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU LEARN ABOUT PUBLIC ART. HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD DESIGN FROM ONE CITY HAS TO BE RECOGNIZABLE TO THAT CITY. YES. AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT RAY KING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AGAIN BECAUSE DINO AND RAY BROUGHT IT OUT. HE'S GOT A PIECE IN CORAL SPRINGS THAT HE JUST INSTALLED IN THEIR NEW CITY HALL. HE WON THAT COMMISSION. HE'S GOT A PIECE THAT IF I YOU. HE'S GOT SEVERAL PIECES IN NEAR VICINITY TO TAMARACK. AND WE DIDN'T LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW WE WANT OUR OWN THING. WE KNOW IT'S GOOD FOR HIM. WE'RE HAPPY FOR HIM HE'S INCREDIBLY TALENTED BUT THAT WAS A TURNOFF FOR THE COMMITTEE AND FOR GEORGE AND I I ACTUALLY LIKE HIS PIECE IS THE BEST I MAKE BUT GO ON YOUR OWN. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO LIKE THE PIECES YOU WANT. THIS IS THE COMMITTEE'S GIVING US THEIR POINT OF VIEW. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU LIKE THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS THE COMMITTEE'S POINT OF VIEW PLEASE EXPRESS WHAT IT IS. ALL RIGHT. I AM. YES. SO. BUT BUT BUT BUT THE POINT THAT THEY'RE BRINGING OUT IS LEGITIMATE. SO WHILE I DO LIKE THE PIECES BY RAY KING I DO WANT SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE TO TAMARACK AND TO BE AS PIECES CLOSE BY THEN THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE US SPECIAL. SO I MEAN I COULD BE OPEN TO THIS. I NEED TO SEE LIKE A MODEL OR SOMETHING. BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT WAS THERE LIKE A TOP 10. THEY HAVE TO RANK SOME OF THE OTHERS OR WERE THERE SOME OTHERS THAT YOU GUYS FELT THAT NOW FROM THIRTY NINE ARTISTS ACROSS THE NATION THE PUBLIC ARE COMMITTEE SELECTED THREE SEMIFINALISTS AND THAT IS USUAL PROCEDURE THEN THE THREE ARTISTS ARE PAID A STIPEND TO CREATE AN IDEA FOR A PROJECT AND THEN HAVE OTHER RENDERINGS FROM THE REMAINING 36. WELL WE PUT TAKES PLACES ONCE THERE'S A SHORT LIST IS DONE THEN THE THREE SEMIFINALISTS ARE THEN PAID THE STIPEND TO CREATE A MODEL TO THEN PRESENT AS OPPOSED TO LET'S SAY IF THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 10 ARTISTS OR 29 ORDERS THEY EACH WOULD NOT COMMIT A MODEL CREATE A MODEL OF THE THIRTY NINE YOU DO SEE SOME OF THEIR WORK. SO WHAT THEY DO HAVE TO SUBMIT TO CAFFEY SOME OF THEIR WORK SO WE CAN GET AN INDICATION OF THE TYPE OF WORK THAT THEY WOULD PRODUCE AND THEN THAT IS JUDGED BY PUBLIC ART. OUR CALLS FOR ART THAT GEORGE AND I WRITE REQUIREMENT IS TWO FOR EACH ARTIST IF THEY WANT TO SUBMIT IT'S A RESUMé A LETTER OF INTEREST WHY YOU FEEL YOU'RE MOST QUALIFIED FOR THE PROJECT AND TEN IMAGES OF PAST WORK THAT WOULD RELATE TO WHAT THEY WANT TO DESIGN FOR US HERE. SO WE SEE QUITE A BIT OF SUPPORT MATERIAL. DID YOU SEE OTHER ARTISTS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN THE TOP THREE THAT WOULD WORK ACTUALLY. NO. WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THEIR SELECTION. AND AGAIN BECAUSE THAT'S OUR JOB AND THAT'S HOW WE ARE EDUCATED. SO WE ARE WE ARE THERE TO GUIDE THE COMMITTEE BUT THE COMMITTEE THEN AND THEY DO THEIR OWN THING BUT WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH IT. WE WE WOULD BE GUIDING THEM IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THESE SELECTIONS.

WE GEORGE AND I BOTH FELT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT RAY KING AND GORDON USER WERE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR AND THEY KEEP DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THE GREAT SIMON WAS SO DIFFERENT THAT WHEN THE SUBMISSIONS CAME IN BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR THE SUBMISSIONS A WEEK EARLY BEFORE THE PUBLIC OUR COMMITTEE MEETS SO THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT AND WHEN IT CAME IN WE BOTH LIKE YOU STARTED LAUGHING. IT WAS SO CHARMING SO DIFFERENT. AND WE WERE YAWNING WITH RAY KING AND AND GORDON WHO SAID WE'D BEEN THERE DONE THAT SEEN IT AND NOT VERY MUCH FLAVORED OUR DECISION. I'D LIKE TO THIS IN THE EVENT THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE THE MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE OR ARTISTS THEMSELVES. THE CHAIR HAS BEEN A PUBLIC ARTIST. WE'VE GOT IN OTHER WORDS ARTISTS ON THE BOARD THAT HAVE CREDENTIALS SO THEY KNOW WHAT GOOD ART WAS NOT GOOD ART. I WILL SAY TO THAT ARTIST WHENEVER THEY RESPOND TO THIS CALL TO ARTISTS THAT IS NATIONAL WE SOMETIMES HAVE RIDICULOUS SUBMISSIONS AND WE KNOW THAT BETTER THAN TO BRING THOSE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT JUST WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE. YEAH SO AM I WRONG. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT REALLY A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER WHEN IT COMES TO ART BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I WOULD LIKE I WOULDN'T I

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WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE ON OUR BIKE GREENWAY PATHWAYS. SOME LIKE THAT. SO MY ARTIST PERSPECTIVE. IS IT LESS PROPER OR LESS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE LIKE AN IMAGE LIKE THIS IN A BIKE WAY BECAUSE IT'S GOOD. IT'S GOOD THAT YOU BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THE CASE IN POINT AND IT HAD SOME COME TO FRUITION YET BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING TO DO SCULPTURE ON THE AVENUE AND YOU HEAR FROM US YOU KNOW A FEW WEEKS LATER ABOUT PLACING LARGE SCULPTURES ALONG THE AVENUE. THERE WAS A PARTICULAR ARTIST'S MALCOLM ROBESON WHO HAD SUBMITTED A LARGE PIECE TO BE CONSIDERED AND IT WAS NOT SELECTED BUT THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE LOVED THE WORK AND THOUGHT WELL IT MIGHT WORK SOMEPLACE ELSE. SO YOU KNOW THERE'S NOW DISCUSSIONS WITH THE THEY HAVE GOT TO HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE OVERPASS. SO THE POINT I'M MAKING IS THAT IF INDEED THE COMMISSION SEES THAT MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SCULPTURE BUT THAT THERE IS SOME MERIT TO THE SCULPTURE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION THEN IT MAY MAYBE ALONG THE GREENWAY THE CANAL THERE THE BIKE PATH THAT COULD BE A CONSIDERATION. AND THEN THIS IS IT DOES LOOK LIKE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO STOP AND TAKE PICTURES. AND SO MAYBE MAYBE THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. BUT BUT SO MY QUESTION WAS IS IT IS IT IS IT IS IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE SOMETHING BIKE RELATED ON A BIKE PATH OR DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SOMETHING. NOT BIKE RELATED MAKES THE HOTEL FROM AN ARTIST'S PERSPECTIVE. I THINK FROM AN ART PERSPECTIVE I THINK IT'S SO SITE SPECIFIC FOR THE CITY OF TAMARACK. AND AGAIN I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD WHIMSICAL FUN. I THINK IT WOULD BELONG ANYWHERE IN THE CITY I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT IT BE ON A BIKE PATH. THAT'S A LITTLE HITTING YOUR HEAD AND YOU KNOW THAT'S SO OBVIOUS. RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. AND AS AN ARTIST WHO THE KEY THING IS THAT SOMETIMES YOU AVOID BEING TOO LITERAL. RIGHT.

RIGHT. BUT LEAVING IT AS A MORE ABSTRACT REPRESENTATION SO THE HINTS NOW THE DIALOGUE AND WE KNOW OF THE FAMOUS PIECE OF WORK THERE ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND RIVERSIDE YOU KNOW IT'S VIEWED BY PEOPLE IN WHO LOVE IT SOME DON'T LIKE IT BUT IT'S VERY ABSTRACT. AND THEN IT'S THE VIEWER WHO DECIDES WHAT IT IS SO MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. SO I SAW THE SIMMONS PIECE AND THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE GREAT IN TAMARACK VILLAGE BECAUSE I TOO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE TAKING PICTURES OF OUR ART AS THEY'RE GETTING ONTO THE EXPRESSWAY. THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE DANGEROUS. ARE WE CONSIDERING PIECES OR TAMARACK VILLAGE. YES WE ARE. YES WE ARE. WE. WE DO HAVE THAT IN THE PLANT WHERE THESE DO HAVE WORK YET. GEORGE AND I HAD ALONG WITH MAXINE WE HAD WRITTEN A GRAND FOR AND AND RECEIVED A GRANT AND IT'S GOING TO TAMARA VILLAGE FOR. MOSAIC ART ON THE BACK WALL OF AN AMPHITHEATER AND FOR A SPLASH PAD WE HAD ALSO WHEN GORDON HUGHES HER HEAD FIRST APPLIED FOR COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND DID NOT GET THAT PROJECT WE WERE CONSIDERING THAT SCULPTURE FOR ONE OF THE ROUNDABOUTS IN TAMARACK VILLAGE. SO YES WE'RE WHERE WE'RE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT OR YOU KNOW THERE'S A MASTER PLAN HERE. AND GEORGE AND I KNOW ALL THE SITES FOR LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED AND WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT ALL OF THE SITES RIGHT NOW.

GEORGE MET WITH THEM JACK STRAIN AND I OVER AT 441 AND COMMERCIAL IN FRONT OF A WALGREENS IS A WONDERFUL SITE FOR ART BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VERY EAST. SO WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT AFTER WE FINISH INSPIRATION WAY WHERE WE HAVE A VERY NICE RESPONSE FROM ARTISTS ACROSS THE NATION OF REALIZED SCULPTURE THEY'RE FINISHED THAT IF WE LIKE SOMETHING FROM THERE WE MIGHT PLACE IT ON 441 AND COMMERCIAL. SO WE ARE ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT ALL THE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE COMMITTEE FELT THAT THIS WAS A GREAT LOCATION FOR THIS SCULPTURE. AND IT'S A BONUS THAT WE FELT IT WAS A PHOTO OP AND WITH PHOTO OP THERE IS A PARKING LOT AT THAT HOTEL. SO IT

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WOULD BE VERY EASY TO DRIVE IN AND TAKE A PICTURE FROM SOMEBODY THAT DOES SEE IT WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING IT WOULD BE MEMORABLE THEY COULD COME BACK AND TAKE A PICTURE.

WELL IF I CAN HOLD THE PICTURE BACK UP ON WHERE THE STAR IS FOR THAT BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY LET ME JUST WAIT UNTIL IT'S PULLED OUT THE VERY BEGINNING WHERE THERE'S. IS WHERE YOU WERE THINKING COMMISSIONER ARE THE STARS. OK SO WHERE THAT STAR IS IS WHERE THE HECK ARE THE SCULPTURES GOING TO BE. YES IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHERE WE HAVE BEEN SHOWN ON THE VERY LAST IMAGE IT'S INTO THE RIGHT AWAY.

BUT IT WILL BE INSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE. SO IT'S EXACTLY WHERE YOU SEE THE STAR RIGHT. TYPICALLY WHERE YOU SEE THAT BOX THAT'S THE ACTUAL. THAT'S ACTUAL EASEMENT. OK. AND AT EITHER BEFORE THE SCULPTURE OR RIGHT AFTER THE SCULPTURE THERE IS NOT AN ENTRY WAY TO THE HOTEL IS THERE IS NOT. YOU HAVE TO GO INTO THE HOTEL PARKING LOT. THE RIGHT PICTURE IF YOU ARE A COME IF YOU ARE DRIVING IF YOU'RE NOT STAYING THERE FOR THE ENTRIES ON MADISON WITH THE ENTRY OF THE EXISTING HOTEL. OK. SO MY POINT IS IS THAT YOU'D ACTUALLY HAVE TO PLAN AHEAD. YES I WOULD HAVE TO PLAN. OH SURE. TO YES WE ARE WE WOULD BE HOPEFUL THAT LIKE MYSELF I IF I NONCOMMERCIAL AND I'M ENTERING OR I'M EXITING AND IF I WAS A RESIDENT AND I SAW I GO WOW THAT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW I THINK I'LL GO BACK FOR A PICTURE AT SOME POINT.

AGAIN TRYING TO CREATE DIALOGUE NOT IF YOU'RE DRIVING AND HAVE TO WITH THAT MOMENT TAKE A PICTURE. NO THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT. YEAH THERE IS ACCESS IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. OK. AND WHEN WE DID THE OR WHEN WE HAD THIS SCULPTURE VEVO YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT THE ORIGINAL PIECE THAT YOU SUBMITTED WAS NOT SATISFACTORY AND YOU WENT BACK TO HIM AND SAID THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK OR WHY COULD WE NOT DO THAT WITH RAY CAMS. OH THAT'S THAT IS THE PROCEDURE. YES. YOU KNOW WHEN AN ARTIST FROM ANOTHER PART OF THE NATION BECOMES A SEMIFINALIST THEY DO RESEARCH ABOUT TAMARA AND THEN THEY COME AND THEY PRESENT AND THERE AND THEY CALL US IN BETWEEN WITH QUESTIONS AND THEN THEY COME WITH THEIR IDEA BUT THEY COME AND THEY SAY THAT THE THE PRACTICE IS SUCH THAT THEY'RE COMING WITH THEIR IDEA. NOW WHAT DO YOU WANT. AND WE WORK WITH CHANGES ALL THE TIME COLOR CHANGES MOTIF CHANGES VERY VERY COMMON SOME. I HAD A PROJECT RECENTLY IN CHARLOTTE NORTH CAROLINA WHERE WHAT I STARTED WITH A YEAR LATER AND THEY BROUGHT ME BACK EVERY MONTH. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANTED AT A LIBRARY AND EVERY TIME I CAME TO PRISON THEY SAID NOW WE WANT A CANOPY. OH WE WANT FUNCTIONAL FURNITURE. SO I DESIGNED THAT. OH WE WHAT THEY KEPT CHANGING THEIR IDEAS AND I'M FINE. YOU KNOW IT'S KIND OF FUN. AND WE ENDED UP WITH SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS STARTED. SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. SO IF INDEED THERE IS AN INCLINATION TO ACCEPT THE STYLE OF THIS PARTICULAR ARTIST WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT HE IS OPEN TO MAKING MODIFICATIONS THAT WOULD BE MORE TO THE LIKING OF THE COMMISSION. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT FROM YOU AND THAT CAN THEN I'M SORRY. AND THEN THAT CAN BE COMMUNICATED TO THE ARTISTS. WE WOULD HAVE HIM COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL RENDITIONS OF FOR YOUR REVIEW AS WELL AS PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE OF COURSE AND SEE IF HE'S ON POINT WITH WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. AND JUST TO CLARIFY I LIKED THE WORK OF BOTH RAY KING AND JOSH SIMMONS. I THINK JOHN JAMES RAY SIMMONS SORRY OF I JUST THINK THAT THE LOCATION FOR THE SIMMONS PIECE WOULD BE BETTER AT TAMARACK VILLAGE CREATING SOME OF THAT WHIMSY IN THE VILLAGE WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO DO. AND I THINK THAT PIECE WOULD HELP. BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE WHAT MR. KING COULD DO TO CHANGE IT UP A LITTLE BIT SO IT'S MORE TAMARACK SPECIFIC. YOU MEAN

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JAMES SIMON YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT RAY KING TO MAKE IT MORE TAMARA. YES OK JAMES SIMONS I THINK WOULD BE BETTER AT TAMARACK VILLAGE CREATING THE WHIMSY IN THE VILLAGE AS OPPOSED TO ON THE WAY OUT OF OUR CITY. OK THE WAY IN WHICH YOU BOTH. GOOD MORNING. WHAT SAY DOES EACH DISTRICT COMMISSIONER HAVE WITH RELATIVE TO THE LOCATIONS THAT YOU PUT THE THE ART IN THEIR DISTRICT. YOU HAVE A SAY THROUGH THIS PROCESS SO THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE THE RECOMMENDING BOARD ALL OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS IS BROUGHT TO THIS BODY. OK SO I'LL TAKE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE ART AT THE WALL THE WALGREENS SITE SET UP MANY TIMES. AND SO PERHAPS IT DIDN'T GET TO YOU BUT I'M JUST SAYING PUBLICLY THAT I DON'T WANT IT THERE. OH BUT WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE. AH WE CAN FIND OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE DISTRICT BUT THAT LOCATION SPECIFICALLY FOR ME IS NOT A PRESENTABLE LOCATION. OK. OK. I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR SERVES ON THE BOARD AND I WILL GIVE HER THE DEFERENCE OF GOING LAST FOR THIS ONE AND SHARE MY THOUGHTS. WHILE I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE THAT THE WORK MIGHT BE SIMILAR TO YOU AND YOUR PROFESSION AND WHAT YOU SEE IN ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE YOU ON BOARD WHICH WE APPRECIATE THE WORK IS NOT NECESSARILY SIMILAR TO US. AND SO I AM A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT OR IN OTHER THE ORIGINAL SCULPTURE THAT WE HAD CREATED WHEN WE DISCUSSED TO GO TO TAMARACK VILLAGE HAS NOW BEEN USED SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT IS HIS ARTWORK UNLESS WE PUT ANY KIND OF DEPOSIT ON IT BUT A HOLD ON IT AND CONTRACT IT HIM. WE HAVE NO RIGHTS TO TELL HIM HE CAN'T USE IT ELSEWHERE WHERE HE FELT OR THAT CITY FELT WAS GOOD FOR THEM.

SO A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE I'M NOT A FAN OF THE ONE THAT HE SUBMITTED FOR FOR THIS PLACE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. AS FAR AS THE RAKING SCULPTURES I ACTUALLY I HAPPEN TO LIKE THEM. I THINK THAT THEY EMOTE A KIND OF CLASS AND STYLE THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO INCORPORATE ON OUR MAJOR ARTILLERY ROADWAYS. I UNDERSTAND WHIMSICAL GOAL AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN INSECT BUT RAY KING WHEN YOU DESCRIBE THE RAY KING SCULPTURE FOR THE FIRST ONE FOR THIS ONE YOU HAD A DIFFERENT BEING THAT YOU SAW COMING THROUGH. I ACTUALLY SEE IT ILLUMINATED WITH A LITTLE OWL ON THE BOTTOM. HOLDING UP THE WEIGHT OF THE WORLD SO TO SPEAK WITH THE WHIMSY AND FREE AND THINK THAT THE COLORS COULD BE AUGMENTED TO BE THAT WHICH FIT OUR CITY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE BLUES AND THE GREENS IN OUR CITY LOGO. MAYBE IT KALEIDOSCOPE. WITH OUR OTHER COLORS THAT ARE IN OUR LOGO THAT WE CAN USE TO INCORPORATE. I PERSONALLY DON'T FIND IT A DISQUALIFICATION THAT HE HAD SUCH A BRAIN AN IDEA THAT HE JUST HAD TO DO AND FOUND SOMETHING THAT HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR CITY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A NEGATIVE ITEM. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THEY MIGHT HAVE A PIECE IN CORAL SPRINGS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS IT THE SAME LOOKING PIECE OF EITHER ONE OF THEM. IF IT IS THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT BEING A DISQUALIFICATION OR SOMETHING WE WANT TO ASK FOR SOME CHANGES BECAUSE WE DON'T WE ARE OUR OWN CITY. WE LOVE OUR SISTER CITY BUT WE'RE OUR OWN CITY SO THE ARTWORK DOES HAVE TO FIT US. IT IS ILLUMINATED WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASK FOR WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THAT SPACE ALSO BEING ILLUMINATED TO WHERE IT'S NOT DETRIMENTAL TO DRIVERS AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT IT AS LIGHT SAID SUNSETS OR SUNRISES ON STEEL PIECES. THERE'S ALWAYS A CONCERN WHICH I KNOW WHICHEVER PIECE WE GO THROUGH YOU ALWAYS WORK THAT CONCERN THAT WE HAVE OUT. THE SECOND SCULPTURE BY RAKING ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE A WORLD OR A GLOBE.

LOOKS LIKE TO ME IT'S ON THE TOP OF THE WATER. ABOUT AND WONDERFUL AS WELL. AND THAT TOO CAN ALSO HAVE VARYING COLORS AS YOU KIND OF SEE IT THROUGH THE GLOBE. SO I AM NOT ONE TO SAY NO TO THE RAKING SCULPTURES. IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS AT LEAST A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ALSO ON THE COMMISSION WHO WAS FOR THAT OR FOR THAT PIECE. AND I THINK EITHER ONE OF THOSE OR MODIFIED ACCORDINGLY FOR OUR CITY WOULD BE A GOOD SCULPTURE AN ELEGANT SCULPTURE A WHIMSICAL ENOUGH SCULPTURE AND ALSO ONE THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR OUR INVENTORY. I AM CURIOUS AS TO WHERE THE LOCATION IS FOR

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THE ROOM HOW IT WENT FOR THE ROOMS THE LOCATION OTHER HOTEL ROOMS. WOULD THIS BE A PIECE THAT CAN BE SEEN FROM THE HOTEL ROOMS. I THINK THAT DOES. I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO GOES SO IT'S OUR ROOM AND I CLOSE THOSE BLINDS SO NICE AND TIGHT. SO WOULD JUST BE WORRIED ABOUT HOW BRIGHTLY LIT IT IS AT NIGHT FOR THE COLORS NOT IF IT IS A KALEIDOSCOPE TYPE THING. NOT GOING INTO THE ROOMS OF THOSE. THAT'S IN. NO NO. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AT THE CORNER OF THE CONCRETE SO YOU REALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT IT WOULDN'T BE DISRUPTED. THAT'S OF THING. JUST COME ON SOMEBODY FOR WHATEVER PIECE WE GO THERE NOT HAVING SOMEBODY COMPLAIN THAT OUR ARTWORK IS SHINING TOO BRIGHT WITHIN THE BUT THOSE WOULD BE MY THOUGHTS ON WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING. ONE OF THE TWO RAKING SUBMISSIONS. BEST.

ARE YOU READY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I PURPOSELY STAYED QUIET BECAUSE I DO SIT ON THE COMMITTEE AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING THAT MIGHT INFLUENCE ALTHOUGH I KNOW I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY INFLUENCE ANY WAY BUT I JUST WANTED TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAD TO SAY. AS YOU ALL KNOW WHEN THE JAMES SIMMONS WAS BROUGHT IN I DIDN'T LIKE IT. I MEAN I WAS VERY HONEST WITH YOU ALL THAT I WAS NOT A FAN SO THAT WAS MY MY POINT OF KEEPING QUIET AT THIS POINT. I THINK YOU KNOW MAYBE IN A PARK OR SOMETHING IT MIGHT BE CUTE IT MIGHT BE WHIMSICAL IN MY MIND THAT'S NOT THE FIRST THING I WANT SOMEONE TO SEE WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR CITY. IT'S NOT THE IMAGE WHERE WE'RE PORTRAYING. I LIKE THE RIGHT GAMES. I ALWAYS HAVE I SAID THAT INITIALLY AND I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY MIND WITH THAT I JUST THINK I LIKE THE IMAGE OF THEM. I THINK THE THE FIRST ONES THAT HE SHOWED THAT TO ME FOR SOME REASON REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING I MIGHT SEE AT EPCOT OR SOMETHING. IT JUST I THINK IT'S CLASSIC. I LIKE IT. I LIKE THE LOOKS OF IT. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GUIDE US THAT WE DON'T WANT ALL OUR PIECES TO LOOK ALIKE. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WHERE WE PUT THESE PIECES IS IMPORTANT. AND IF WE WANT TO DO A WHIMSICAL PIECE LIKE THIS IN A PARK THAT MIGHT BE CUTE FOR THE KIDS AND TAKING PICTURES AND ALL BUT AS THE FIRST IMAGE TO OUR CITY IT JUST REALLY JUST DIDN'T WORK FOR ME. SO I WOULD SAY I'M IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING FOR MAKING THINGS AT THIS POINT. I'M GONNA GO FOR A CONSENSUS ON MY DOORSTEP. YEAH. COME ON. DON'T YELL AT ME WHEN WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THE TIMELINE THAT EVERYBODY IS ASKED FOR. THAT'S ALL I ASK. GO AHEAD. I MEAN IN THE SHORT TIME THIS PIECE HAS GROWN ON ME. YOU KNOW. THE GORDON AND THE RAY ARE BASIC. I MEAN THEY'RE VERY NICE BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOMEWHERE ELSE. LIKE I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE IN SOME OTHER WAY SHAPE OR FORM OR FASHION BUT THIS I HAVE RARELY SEEN BEFORE. AND TO ME IT'S NOT THE FIRST IMAGE SOMEONE WOULD SEE OF TAMARA. THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE AS YOU LEAVE TIME RIGHT. GOING FOR THE HIRING GOING NORTH TO CORAL SPRINGS AND SOME OTHER CITIES. SO I MEAN I DO THINK IT'S UNIQUE. I DO THINK IT HAS A WILD FACTOR. BUT I WAS WONDERING IF CAN WE SHARE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE WITH THE WITH OUR COMMUNITY LIKE YOU KNOW THESE ARE THE FINAL THREE PIECES CAN WE SHARE IT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK. OH WE WILL. IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION SHOW US WE CAN TAKE SOME TIME AND DO THAT. BUT THAT HAS TO BE THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION. THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE US TO GO. I'M PRETTY SURE WE'RE GETTING E-MAILS AND RESPONSES FROM THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THE COMMISSION MEETING. AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WATCHING. THEY DON'T ALWAYS WATCH RIGHT NOW. THEY WATCH LATER ON YOUR FACEBOOK.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND I WILL ADD THAT THE PIECE THAT WAS PUT I RAKING IN THE CITY COMMISSION AT CORAL SPRINGS IS NOT AT ALL LIKE WHAT HE HAS GIVEN US HERE. IT IS A SUSPENDED PIECE IN THEIR LOBBY AND IT'S POLISHED STAINLESS BOWLS THE ROLE BOWLS HANGING FROM THE CEILING. SO THEY'RE NOT AT ALL THE SAME. BUT HIS OTHER SCULPTURES IN MIAMI AND THE VICINITY ARE VERY SIMILAR CAN I HAVE A JPEG OF THE THREE DIFFERENT IMAGES OF THE FINAL PIECES FROM THE THREE FINALISTS. I MEAN THEY ARE WE ALL GOING TO

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BE DISCUSSING ANY KIND OF CHANGES TO THE RAY KING SCULPTURE THAT WOULD WIND UP BEING I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE BREAKING OAK AT THIS POINT THAT WE DO HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THE RANKINGS. SO IS THERE ANY DESIRE FOR ANY KIND OF CHANGES OR NUANCES AND ACTUALLY FOR THE PICKING OF ONE OF THE THREE THERE'S TWO DAYS TO GO. I'M SORRY. CAN WE ALSO MAYBE AGREE THAT WE LIKE THIS BUT MAYBE NOT FOR THAT SPOT. I MEAN I THINK IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION IT WOULD BE ADORABLE IT WOULD BE WHIMSICAL BUT I'M JUST SAYING NOT AT THE HOTELS BUT NOT TO JUST TOTALLY DISCOUNTED JUST PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. THAT WAS PART OF WHAT I SAID.

YEAH I LIKE THE SIMMONS PIECE OR PERHAPS TIME OR VILLAGE OR ANOTHER LOCATION IN THE CITY WHERE IT TO ME IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE THAT PEOPLE COULD STOP RIGHT TAKE PICTURES MAKE COMMENT. YEAH. AND ON THE RAY KING I WOULD SAY HE NEEDS TO COME BACK AND MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TAMARACK SPECIFIC PIECE OF ART. CAN YOU ASSIST ON GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE WOULD BE THAT THE FIRST PIECE LOOKS KIND OF. I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS LIKE A LOTUS BLOSSOM. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF LOTUS BLOSSOMS IN OUR CITY. IS MAYBE MORE OF AN ORCHID LOOK OR A BIRD OF PARADISE. LOOK SOMETHING LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SOUTH FLORIDA THAN LOTUS MAYBE CITY COLORS INCORPORATED. MM HMM. THE CHAIR FOR ME. SHE'S I'M. THANK YOU. SO TO OUR ARTISTS EXPERTS WAS WAS THE GOAL HERE TO MAXIMIZE VISIBILITY AS WE MOVE THIS TO TAMARACK VILLAGE AND GET AS MUCH VISIBILITY AS YOU WOULD. WITH THIS BEING IN THIS LOCATION BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THOUSANDS OF CARS PER DAY GOING UP THIS WAY AND GOING OUT ONTO THE HIGHWAYS THIS WOULD MAXIMIZE VISIBILITY AND PEOPLE MIGHT SAY OH YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK OUT THAT PIECE YOU KNOW GOING TO BUY 75. THAT'S WHY I AM PLANNING. ULTIMATELY THE GOAL FOR THE TAMARACK VILLAGE WOULD BE A GATHERING PLACE A COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE. AND I PREFER EMILY BELIEVE THAT IT WILL CREATE A LOT OF BUZZ AND THERE WILL BE VISIBILITY THERE TO WHEN ACTIVITIES TAKE PLACE TO SPLASH PAD WE JUST A LOT. SO THE MORE THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE GIVING THE RESIDENTS TO EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY ARE AT A LOCATION IT THEN CAUSES THEM TO COME BACK TO THAT LOCATION AND AS WELL AS OF COURSE VISITORS AS WELL. SO I DON'T THINK WE ARE BY REMOVING IT FROM THAT LOCATION. WE'RE NOT WE'RE PREVENTING IT FROM GETTING. NO.

RIGHT. OR VISIBILITY EVEN AT A GREATER SCALE AT THE AT THE VILLAGE YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT BEING. I'M I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. IT ULTIMATELY IS THE COMMITTEE IN YOU KNOW. BUT I I COULD LIVE WITH THAT. HOW WOULD I CHANGE THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THE ARTWORK IN TAMARACK VILLAGE. BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING LIKE A MOSAIC WALL OR SOMETHING. OH IT DOESN'T CHANGE IT THAT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS THAT WE WOULD BRING FORWARD. THIS WOULD BE ADDING WE HAD ALWAYS SIMPLE TO ADD ANOTHER LOCATION OF THE FREESTANDING SCULPTURE THAT'S JUST TO ALSO IF I MAY GIVE YOU JUST A THOUGHT FOR CONSIDERATION IF INDEED IT'S THE LIKING OF THE COMMISSION TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR PIECE AT THE VILLAGE IT MIGHT WORK WELL WITH NO COLOR. MY ONLY COUNTER COMMENT AND THIS IS JUST BECAUSE I'M IN A DEVIL'S ADVOCATE MODE SO FORGIVE ME. WE HAD JUST SAID THAT WE DON'T WANT THE SAME PIECE THAT WAS IN SOMEWHERE NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IF YOU'RE TAKING THAT EXACT SAME PIECE THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE THEN YOU'RE LOSING OUR ORIGINALITY. SO THAT'S ONE THAT I WOULD SAY NOTHING OF THE COLOR. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE BICYCLE THE CARS AS PRESENTED AS A CONCEPT FOR. IF INDEED YOU WANTED TO HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION IT MIGHT LEND ITSELF WELL TO BE. NO. WE'LL JUST USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE THE REASON WHY THESE WORK WELL WITH NO COLOR IS BECAUSE THE BACKDROP AND SO THEY'RE NOT COMPETING WITH THE BAND. FORGIVE ME SO YOU WERE SAYING TO TAKE THE BICYCLE WITHOUT COLOR. THAT'S QUITE DIFFERENT TOO. YES. WELL I THINK IF YOU DON'T MIND THEM I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GONNA COME AROUND YOU'VE GOT A LOT MORE FOR DISCUSSION WHEN IT COMES TO TAMARACK VILLAGE AND THE ARTWORK AND WE STILL HAVE

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A LOT OF DISCUSSION FOR INSPIRATION WAY WHICH OUR RESIDENTS ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE THEY'VE SEEN THE CONCRETE PADS OUT THERE AND THEY KEEP ASKING US. SO THESE ARE ALL ITEMS FOR TO INCLUDE INTO DISCUSSION THEN AND OBVIOUSLY FOR SITE AND SIZE SPECIFIC FOR THE LOCATION AS WELL. I'M JUST TRYING TO REEL IT BACK IN OUR DIRECTION WOULD YOU. WELL I WOULD RECOMMEND PLEASE LOOKING UP THAT THAT ARTIST I SPOKE OF SO IT'S W W W DOT WHERE ARI D. MS. G R O O M S DOT COM JUST EDUCATE YOURSELF OF THIS GENRE. IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT. WE KNEW THAT WHEN WE PRESENTED IT WE'RE VERY RESPECTFUL OF ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS. I THINK THEY WERE VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND WE NEVER TAKE A CHANCE BECAUSE OUR MODEL AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE GEORGE AND I WERE TOGETHER ABOUT 15 YEARS NOW AND WE ALWAYS SAY YOU PAY US FOR OUR ADVICE THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE IT. WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. WE WANT TO PLEASE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO YOU'LL GO FORTH AND TALK TO MR. KING AND SEE WHAT HE CAN COME BACK WITH AND WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN WHENEVER IT COMES BACK UP ON THE ON MY AGENDA. SO WE ARE AT TWELVE THE ONE I KNOW. WOW. SO WE WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE IN AN HOUR 1:00. THANK YOU. BACK ON THE RECORD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYED LUNCH. THE SISTER CITIES DISCUSSION HAS BEEN POSTPONED.

[3. Sister Cities Discussion]

UNFORTUNATELY MISS WREN DARIO IS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US TODAY AND WE WILL BE MOVING

[4. Presentation to the Commission on People Profile Awards]

STRAIGHT TO NUMBER FOR A PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION ON PEOPLE PROFILE AWARDS.

THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE TO US BY FOUNDER DR. ALLAN CUNNINGHAM AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CAROL CHANG. I HOPE I PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME RIGHT. I DID NOT SAY YOU COULD FIX IT IT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. UNIFORM. OH YES. WELL WHERE ARE YOU. RIGHT. OH THANK YOU. YES. OH YOU KNOW I LOVE THAT ONE. OK. GOOD AFTERNOON MA'AM. COMMISSIONERS VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS CITY MANAGERS AND ATTORNEY. MY NAME IS CAROL CHAN AND I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PEOPLE PROFILE. I HAVE ALONG WITH ME FOUNDER OF THE ALLEN CUNNINGHAM AND WE HAVE A VIDEO TODAY. AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SHOW IT BEFORE I GO INTO MY PRESENTATION ON AUGUST OF 2015. DR. ELLEN G. CUNNINGHAM HAD A VISION TO CREATE A COMMUNITY OF ORDINARY PEOPLE DOING EXTRAORDINARY THINGS. USING THEIR STORIES TO EDUCATE AND. MOTIVATE. AND INSPIRE. US. ON SUNDAY JULY 14 20 19 AT 6 P.M.. YOU'RE INVITED TO THE FOURTH ANNUAL PEOPLE PROFILE AWARDS CEREMONY. AT THE BROWARD CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS. I'M A TOUR A THEATER.

COME CELEBRATE THE HEROES AMONG US TICKETS AT TICKETMASTER DOT COM BROWARD CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS. OH I'M LESS ROUND AND I WANT TO THANK PEOPLE FOR FILE STORIES FOR THE INSPIRATION AWARD. THIS IS THE WAY I WANT TO THANK THE PROPOFOL ORGANIZATION TO HONOR ME WITH THIS AWARD. I AM TRULY TRULY GRATEFUL. LOG ON TO PEOPLE PROFILE DOT ORG THANK YOU. IN AUGUST OF 2015 PEOPLE PROFILE WAS BORN. THE VISION OF PEOPLE PROFILE ORGANIZATION IS TO RECOGNIZE AND HIGHLIGHT ORDINARY PEOPLE DOING EXTRAORDINARY THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE FOCAL POINT IS TO UPLIFT THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A COHESIVE AND COHESIVE EFFORT AND DEDICATED SERVICE AND CREATIVE CREATIVITY. A COMMITTED TEAM OF ESTEEMED EXECUTIVES HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON TRANSFORMING INDIVIDUALS WITH OR IMPACTFUL MISSION. HERE ARE THE

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FACTS. IN THE PAST THREE YEARS WE HAVE HONORED OVER THIRTY EIGHT INDIVIDUALS THROUGH DONATIONS AND SPONSORSHIPS. WE HAVE TOUCHED INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES DURING OUR FOOD DRIVES BOOK DISTRIBUTIONS AND OTHER COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS HENCE CAPTURING THE LIKES OF INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS WHICH HAVE PARTNERS WHICH WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH. IT IS OUR GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE CARRY OUT OUR VISION WE INVOLVE ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF RACE RELIGION AND CULTURE. ON JULY 14 WE WILL CONTINUE TO CELEBRATE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF INDIVIDUALS AND WE WOULD CONSIDER IT'S AN HONOR THAT YOU SHARE OUR VISION AND DESIRE OF RECOGNIZING PEOPLE OR INTENTION THAT PEOPLE PROFILE IS TO INCREASE LEVELS OF PRODUCTIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH RECOGNITION AND REWARDS. TO DO THIS WE COME BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR A SPONSORSHIP OF THE HUMANITARIAN AWARD IN THE AMOUNT OF TWELVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. THIS YEAR'S RECIPIENTS WILL BE THE HAITIAN AMERICAN NURSES ASSOCIATION. THIS ORGANIZATION IS DOING EXTRAORDINARY THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING EDUCATION TRAINING AND RESOURCES TO WELL NEEDED RESIDENTS OF FLORIDA WHO OTHERWISE COULD NOT HAVE AFFORDED IT PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THE PRIMARY BENEFACTOR OF OUR EFFORTS IS IN THE KIDS IN DISTRESS ORGANIZATION. AND WITH THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO AN AWESOME RELATIONSHIP WITH TAMARACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANY QUESTIONS. CARD IS IF YOU DID NOT WISH TO STAY THEN OR. I MEAN I'LL SAY SOMETHING FIRST. I MET WITH DR. CUNNINGHAM AND I THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE PROFILE WAS AN EXCELLENT ORGANIZATION.

THEY WERE DOING SO MANY GOOD THINGS IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW SOMETIMES SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THEY DON'T SET OUT TO GET AWARDED FOR THE GOOD THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING WHEN PEOPLE CAN RECOGNIZE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY TO THAT END.

AND SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE PROFILE DOES AND NOT ONLY GIVE PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO BE AWARDED BUT THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS THEY ATTACHED THEM THEIRSELVES TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP THEM AS WELL. LIKE THE HAITIAN AMERICAN NURSES ASSOCIATION. IT'S IN THIS TRUST AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN ATTACHED TO THROUGHOUT MY LIFE AS A PUBLIC SERVANT. AND SO THIS WAS WAS CLOSE AND DEAR TO MY HEART AND I THOUGHT THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD BE APPRECIATED TO TO HEAR WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND PERHAPS I'LL BECOME A PART OF IT IN SOME WAY. ATTEND THE SHOW AND SEE WHAT IT'S ABOUT. AND YOU KNOW JUST INDULGE THEM IN THEIR THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSION AND GO THAT'S NO. HOW MUCH MONEY WAS RAISED AT THE EVENT LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR WE EARNED THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS. THAT WAS WITH LESS BROWN AS THE RECIPIENT. HE WAS ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS.

DID DWAYNE WADE MAKE A PERSONAL OR CONTRIBUTION TO HIS FOUNDATION. NO BUT HE WAS AWARDED BASED ON HIS CONTRIBUTION TO THE SPORTS FOUNDATION THAT YES AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN ATTENDANCE LAST YEAR. SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT UM SO ONE OF THE BENEFACTORS OF THE ORGANIZATION OR YOUR EFFORTS IS KIDS IN DISTRESS. WHAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. WELL LAST YEAR WE HAD SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING KIWANIS OF GREATER SUNRISE. WE HAD THE. THE FAMILY ESSENTIALS. BUT THIS YEAR THE BOARD DECIDED TO MAKE JUST ONE DONATION TO KIDS IN DISTRESS AND WHAT WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF US SUPPORTING YOUR ORGANIZATION VERSUS GIVING TO KIDS IN DISTRESS DIRECTLY. WELL ONE OF THE THING THAT TO ME FOCUS ON IS INCREASED PARTICIPATION OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH RECOGNITION AS YOU KNOW THAT RECOGNITION GIVES RISE TO INCREASED PRODUCTIVITY AND IT GIVES RISE TO HIGHER SELF-ESTEEM FOR THE INDIVIDUALS AND FOR ENTITIES AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO FOCUS ON INCREASE AWARENESS AND

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PRODUCTIVITY LEVELS. AND WITH THE SELECTION PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHO WAS GOING TO BE HONORED OR RECOGNIZED WE HAVE A SELECTION TEAM INCLUDING MARTY CARR WAS BROUGHT UP TO DO SO AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PERSONS FROM THE COMMUNITY INCLUDING BRIAN HORACE HIS BRIAN AND OTHER PERSONS FROM DIFFERENT CITIES. LAUDER HILL TAMARACK AND PEMBROKE PINES. ALL RIGHT THANKS THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW

[5. Discussion on Social Media]

MOVING TO OUR DISCUSSION ON SOCIAL MEDIA WE HAVE OUR STRATEGIC SENIOR STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER ELISE BOSTON AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY JACOB HOROWITZ.

GOOD AFTERNOON WITH BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS SENIOR STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

THIS DISCUSSION DOESN'T NEED TO BE LONG. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHERE WE ARE WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CAVEATS RELATED TO SOCIAL MEDIA USE BY THE COMMISSION. SO WITH THAT OK SO IF YOU'LL RECALL WE NEEDED TO EXPAND OUR COMMUNICATIONS CHANNELS TO BETTER REACH ALL SEGMENTS OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND WE'RE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME DOING THAT. AND SO YOU GAVE US ADDITIONAL STAFFING WHICH ALLOWS US TO MAKE A MUCH STRONGER SOCIAL COMMITMENT TO SOCIAL MEDIA. SO WITH ALL OF THE OPTIONS OUT THERE HOW DO WE CHOOSE WHICH ONES TO USE. WELL THERE ARE TWO KEY FACTORS. ONE POPULARITY WITH OUR TARGET AUDIENCE BUT A PRIMARY IMPORTANCE IS THE ABILITY TO ARCHIVE AS YOU KNOW AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP A ROLLING RECORD OF WHAT GOES ON BASED ON THAT. WE'RE FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS ON FACEBOOK. THE CITY HAS A GENERAL ACCOUNT PARKS AND REC HOUSE AND WE COUNT CERTAIN ORGANIZATION HAS AN ACCOUNT AND THEY'RE GOING TO COUNT FOR TURKEY. WE'RE ALSO ON TWITTER INSTAGRAM YOUTUBE AND FACEBOOK RIGHT NOW. ALL OF THESE ARE POPULATED SOLELY BY CITY STAFF AND FRANKLY WE MONITOR THOSE POSTINGS VERY CLOSELY WE'VE LONG WANTED TO USE A NEW OPTION NEXT DOOR. BUT WE WERE BLOCKED BY THE INABILITY TO ARCHIVE WELL THAT BARRIER IS GONE NOW AND THE CITY BEEN BEGUN POSTING ON A REGULAR BASIS. NEXT DOOR ALSO PROVIDES THE ABILITY FOR EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION TO POST ON THE CITY SITE. NOW THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE WILL BE HAPPY TO SET UP YOUR ACCOUNTS DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG. EACH COMMISSIONER WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR DISTRICT. THE MAYOR WILL HAVE ACCESS CITYWIDE. THIS WILL BE AND IT'S IMPORTANT. THIS IS THIS IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TODAY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS WILL NOT COME SOLELY FIRST FROM STAFF AND BECAUSE OF THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CAVEATS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF. REMIND YOU OF SOME INSTANCES JUST TO STAY ON THE SAFE SIDE AND JACOB WILL TALK YOU THROUGH THAT OK. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

COMMISSION THANK YOU RELEASED JUST A COUPLE OBSERVATIONS JUST TO DOVETAIL ON WHAT ELISE HAD INITIALLY STARTED WITH STARTING SPECIFICALLY WITH NEXT DOOR. AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT GET INTO JUST SOME GENERAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA AS A GENERAL MATTER. NEXT DOOR IT IS ELISE SAID THERE INITIALLY WAS A BARRIER TO THE CITY'S UTILIZATION OF NEXT DOOR AS IT RELATED TO RETENTION AND ARCHIVING OF CERTAIN PUBLIC RECORD INFORMATION. THEY NOW HAVE AN OPTION THAT ALLOWS FOR ACCOUNTS BY WHAT ARE CALLED SPECIAL ENTITIES WHICH THEY SPECIFIC FUNCTION WITHIN THE NEXT DOOR APPLICATION THAT ALLOWS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENTAL GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES PUBLIC UTILITIES QUASI GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO CREATE THESE NEXT DOOR PAGES. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A TWO FOLD APPROACH. WE HAVE THESE CITIES PAGE BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO UTILIZE NEXT DOOR AS A MATTER OF OPERATIONS IS ANOTHER TOOL IN THE COMMUNICATION TOOL BOX. ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THE THE TERMS OF SURFACE FOR SPECIAL ENTITIES SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES FOR. ONE IS THAT IT ISN'T OFFICIAL PAGE SO IT CAN ONLY BE USED IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY OR OFFICIAL BUSINESS. THIS IS NOT REALLY A PAGE LIKE FACEBOOK OR SOME OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS WHERE YOU MAY INTERMINGLE

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PERSONAL AND PUBLIC OR PROFESSIONAL. THIS REALLY IS STRICTLY A OFFICIAL BUSINESS IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY TOOL. BUT THERE'S A CAVEAT THERE. THE TERMS EXPRESSLY PROHIBIT POLITICAL ACTIVITY ALL TAKING ADVOCACY BOTH FOR INDIVIDUALS AND EVENTS. SO IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A CAMPAIGN RESOURCE RENT PUBLIC OFFICIAL. IT REALLY IS A METHOD TO A FUNCTION TO PUSH OUT INFORMATION AS IT RELATES TO YOUR PUBLIC POSITION THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY. BUT IT'S VERY CLEAR UNDER THEIR TERMS OF SERVICE IF THE INTENT IS NOT FOR THIS PLATFORM TO BE USED FOR POLITICAL ACTIVITY. WHAT WE GET INTO IN A MINUTE IS AS IT RELATES TO NEXT DOOR AND SOCIAL MEDIA IN GENERAL WE KNOW THAT THE SUNSHINE LAW PUBLIC RECORDS RECORDS RETENTION ARE ALL SIGNIFICANT CONSIDERATIONS AND FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE THIS IS REALLY AN AREA WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY I SHOULD SAY THE LAW HAS NOT COME UP FOR THE TIME AND SESSION AFTER SESSION BOTH AT THE STATE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL WE'RE SEEING SOME PROPOSALS THAT ARE LOOKING TO CAPTURE AND ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO HOW PUBLIC AGENCIES AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARE EXPANDING THEIR USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA ONE THING UNIQUE TO NEXT DOOR AND PARTICULARLY TO THESE SPECIAL ENTITY PAGES THAT THEY DO ALLOW IS. THERE IS NO ANONYMITY NEXT DOOR. KNOW A LOT OF BLOGS A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA VENUES ALLOW PEOPLE TO POST ANONYMOUSLY WHEN IT COMES TO NEXT DOOR AND UNDER THEIR TERMS AS I READ THEM NOTHING IS ESSENTIALLY ANONYMOUS. SO WHEN YOU AND AS ELISE SAID YOU WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO POST CONTENT AND CREATE CONTENT ON THESE PAGES IT'S POSTED UNDER YOUR NAME WITH YOUR TITLE. THOSE ARE REQUIRED TO APPEAR ON ALL CONTENT POSTS THAT YOU WOULD OTHERWISE CREATE AND THE SAME WOULD BE TRUE FOR ANY OF THE CONTENT THAT STAFF WOULD CREATE ON THE NEXT PLATFORM. SO IT'S A LITTLE UNIQUE IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM FACEBOOK AND SOME OF THE OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS THAT ARE OUT THERE BUT IT IS A TOOL IT IS A RESOURCE AND THEY NOW DO PROVIDE THE MECHANISM TO ALLOW FOR BOTH THE AGENCY AND THE INDIVIDUALS TO UTILIZE NEXT DOOR AS A SOCIAL MEDIA OPTION. SO I'M JUST KIND OF LAY THAT OUT THERE SPECIFIC NEXT DOOR. THERE ARE A FEW THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT JUST IN GENERAL AS IT RELATES TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE KNOW INTERNALLY IN THE PAST TEN OR TWELVE YEARS WE'VE SEEN THE PROLIFERATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA USE FROM A PUBLIC INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC OFFICIAL AS WELL AS PUBLIC AGENCY PERSPECTIVE REALLY EXPAND EXPONENTIALLY. I'M THERE TWO THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND. ONE IS WE HAVE THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS WHICH ALL THESE TALKED ABOUT THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACEBOOK PAGES WHETHER IT'S YOUTUBE OR TWITTER OR NEXT DOOR ALL THE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS IS THAT THE CITY HAS ACCESS AND THE LEAST ADMINISTERS EACH OF THOSE PAGES AND THEIR POLICY IS IN PLACE AT THE CITIES ADOPTED FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERSPECTIVE THAT ESSENTIALLY DETERMINE AND REGULATE HOW THOSE PAGES ARE OPERATED HOW CONTENT IS MONITORED AND THE LIKE IN 2009 BACK AT A TIME WHEN WHEN OUR OFFICE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING CITY ATTORNEY FOR CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS JUST NEXT DOOR WE AT THE CITY'S REQUEST THEN REQUESTED AN OPINION OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHICH WAS THE FIRST OPINION ISSUED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA THE OPINION REFERENCES 2009 19 WAS ISSUED ON APRIL 20 30 2009. THIS WAS THE FIRST STATEWIDE ANALYSIS THAT THE AGE'S OFFICE DID SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES AND IN THAT CONTEXT IT RELATED TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT CITY AT THE TIME WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A CITY OPERATED FACEBOOK PAGE. A COUPLE OF THINGS COUPLE OF KEY POINTS AT THE AGE'S OFFICE WEIGHED IN ON THAT WE SUPPORTED AND WERE OBVIOUSLY CONSISTENT WITH THE UPPER OPERATIONAL AND OPERATIVE CASE LAW IS TWO THINGS. ONE WE KNOW THAT THE SUNSHINE LAW APPLIES TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND TO WE KNOW THAT CHAPTER 1 19 THE FLORIDA'S PUBLIC RECORD LAW ALSO APPLIES TO SOCIAL MEDIA. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN.

SUNSHINE LAW TELLS US THAT ANY MEETING OF TWO OR MORE MEMBERS OF A COLLEGIAL BODY AND OBVIOUSLY ALL ARE A COLLEGIAL BODY NEEDS TO BE IN AN OPEN FORUM WITH NOTICE PROVIDED IN MINUTES TAKEN. THAT'S TRUE OF TODAY'S WORKSHOP. IT'S TRUE WHETHER IT IS COMMISSION MEETING BUT THE SAME CONCEPT ALSO APPLIES ON THE INTERNET AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. SO IF ANY TWO OF YOU OR ANY TWO MEMBERS OF ANY COLLEGIAL BODY ACHES THE SAME ANALYSIS WOULD APPLY TO YOUR ADVISORY BOARDS OR IN ANY BODY THAT WAS SUBJECT TO THE SUNSHINE LAW BUT IF ANY TWO OR MORE MEMBERS OF A COLLEGIAL BODY ARE ENGAGING IN AN INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION ON A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM THAT IS A MEETING UNDER FLORIDA LAW FOR PURPOSES OF THE SUNSHINE LAW REFORM. SO IN OTHER WORDS THE TWO OF YOU. MUCH LIKE YOU CAN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT CITY BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF A PUBLIC NOTICE MEETING WITH MINUTES TAKEN. THE SAME WOULD APPLY ONLINE. SO IF IF ANY ONE OF YOU HAS A PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE THAT YOU USE FOR OFFICIAL BUSINESS OR IF THE CITY HAS ITS OWN SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS THAT ARE USED FOR CITY BUSINESS TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO MEMBERS OF THE ARTS THE ARTS ADVISORY BOARD TO MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD GET ONTO THOSE PLATFORMS AND HAVE A DIALOGUE. IT'S THAT SAME INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION PROHIBITION YOU

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HAVE IN THE REAL WORLD ALSO APPLIES IN SOCIAL MEDIA. SO TAKING THAT ONE STEP FURTHER WE GET INTO PUBLIC RECORDS AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW ALSO APPLIES AND THIS HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR MUNICIPAL CLERKS AND MILLICENT AND IN PUBLIC AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN PARTICULAR IN RECENT TIME. CHAPTER 1 19 TELLS US THAT IRRESPECTIVE OF THE FORMAT ANY INFORMATION MADE OR RECEIVED PURSUANT TO LAW ORDINANCE OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE TRANSACTION OF OFFICIAL BUSINESS BY ANY AGENCY. THAT'S A VERY BROAD TERM OUT OF THE STATUTE. AGAIN IT'S THE CONTENT NOT THE FORMAT THAT ULTIMATELY MATTERS IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS A PUBLIC RECORD. SO ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT RELATES TO YOUR CITY BUSINESS OR PUBLIC BUSINESS ONLINE THEORETICALLY MAY MEET THAT DEFINITION. THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES IF YOU'VE CREATED A PUBLIC RECORD ON A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM HOW DO YOU RETAIN THAT RECORD. AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE IN THE CITY HAS IS ENSURING THAT THE TOOLS ARE IN PLACE TO PRESERVE THAT INFORMATION. SO IF AND WHEN PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS COME IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT AND WE KNOW UNDER THE STATUTE OUR CITY CLERK IS THE CUSTODIAN OF THE CITY'S PUBLIC RECORDS. OUR CITY CLERK IN OUR CITY ADMINISTRATION ONLY HAS ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS. SO IF YOU'RE ENGAGING IN PUBLIC BUSINESS ON A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM YOU YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WITH ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION AS A MATTER OF LAW. YOU ARE THE CUSTODIAN OF THOSE RECORDS AND THE BURDEN IS ON EACH INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS THOSE PUBLIC RECORDS TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE PRESERVED A PART OF THAT PROCESS MAY MEAN SIMPLY FORWARDING INFORMATION ON A MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY OR PERIODIC BASIS TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO ENSURE THAT IT'S PRESERVED. BUT AGAIN MUCH LIKE IF YOU WERE ENGAGING IN PUBLIC BUSINESS BY TEXT MESSAGE OR ON A PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS AT A PRIVATE EMAIL ADDRESS WHERE THAT INFORMATION IS NOT IN THE POSSESSION OF THE CITY CLERK OR IN THE CITY THE BURDEN IS ON THE INDIVIDUAL TO ENSURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS RETAINED AND PRESERVED. SO IF THE CITY CLERK WERE TO GET A REQUEST FOR ALL OF THESE SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT FROM A PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER SHE WOULD NEED TO THEN TURN AROUND AND ASK THAT COMMISSIONER FOR THAT INFORMATION AND ASSIST IN FACILITATING A PRODUCTION SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THE CITY RESPONDS TO THE REQUESTER IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO JUST TWO OPERATIVE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND BOTH THE SUNSHINE LAW CONCEPTS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC RECORDS CONCEPTS APPLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA MUCH AS THEY DO IN ANY OTHER VENUE THE TWO CASES THAT CAME OUT IN RELATIVELY RECENT VINTAGE THAT WE PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF GUIDANCE ON THAT I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IN FEBRUARY OF 2018. THIS GOES BACK A LITTLE WAYS. THERE WAS A TRIAL FEDERAL TRIAL COURT DECISION OUT OF NEW YORK INVOLVING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND IT WAS THE KNIGHTS SAYS KNIGHT FIRST AMENDMENT INSTITUTE WAS ACTUALLY A FOUNDATION OF COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY WHO IS THE PLAINTIFF. THEY WERE A CIVIC ORGANIZATION THAT SUED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DUE TO HIS BLOCKING SOME PEOPLE FROM HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT AND A NUMBER OF THE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS THAT WERE RAISED OR IN THE COURSE OF THAT LAWSUIT WERE WHETHER IT WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT'S TWITTER ACCOUNT WAS A QUOTE UNQUOTE PUBLIC FORUM WHETHER THE FIRST AMENDMENT WOULD IN FACT APPLY TO A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM SUCH AS TWITTER. AND THERE WAS A TRIAL COURT DECISION AT THE TIME THAT ESSENTIALLY RULED IN FAVOR OF THE PLAINTIFF SAYING THAT THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE THE TWITTER ACCOUNT THAT HE UTILIZED WAS USED FOR PUBLIC BUSINESS WAS CONSIDERED A LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM AND HE WAS NOT ABLE TO BLOCK ANY INDIVIDUAL DUE TO WHAT A DISAGREEMENT OR DISTASTE FOR WHATEVER VIEWPOINT MIGHT HAVE OTHERWISE BE EXPRESSED BY THAT INDIVIDUAL. THE THE ADMINISTRATION APPEAL THAT DECISION. IT'S CURRENTLY ON APPEAL. THERE WERE ORAL ARGUMENTS BEFORE THE FEDERAL APPELLATE COURT IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. SO THERE'S NOT BEEN AN APPELLATE COURT DECISION RENDERED IN THAT CASE. BUT THE TRIAL COURT IS STILL THE PREVAILING LAW AS IT RELATES TO TWITTER IN 2000 AND 19 MARCH OF THIS YEAR. FAST FORWARD A LITTLE BIT. THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST FEDERAL COURT APPELLATE DECISION IN THE UNITED STATES INVOLVING THIS DAVIDSON VERSUS RANDALL AND THE DAVIDSON VERSUS RANDALL CASE INVOLVES PHYLLIS RANDALL WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF LOUDON COUNTY VIRGINIA.

MS. RANDALL CHAIRMAN RANDALL SHE HAD A FACEBOOK PAGE THAT SHE UTILIZED AND ON HER FACEBOOK PAGE. THERE'S SOMEBODY A COMBINATION OF PERSONAL AND PUBLIC BUSINESS ON THE PAGE. AND AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A CONSTITUENT MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WAS POSTING SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS ALLEGING A NUMBER OF SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS WERE ENGAGED IN SOME CORRUPT ACTIVITIES AND SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS TRUE OR NOT. SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ANY REAL INSIGHT AS TO THE MERITS OF THE ALLEGATIONS BUT SHE DIDN'T LIKE THE NATURE OF WHAT WAS BEING SAID SO SHE BLOCKED THIS PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL FROM ACCESSING HER FACEBOOK PAGE. SHE IN FACT ONLY HAD HIM BLOCKED FOR ABOUT TWENTY EIGHT HOURS BECAUSE AFTER RETHINKING THE BLOCKING SHE LIFTED THE BLOCK THAT DIDN'T STOP HIM FROM SUING HER AND THE COUNTY AT THE TIME ALLEGING THAT A PUBLIC FORUM HAD BEEN CREATED AND THAT SHE HAD ENGAGED IN UNLAWFUL FIRST AMENDMENT VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION BY NOT ALLOWING ACCESS BY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO HER FACEBOOK ACCOUNT. THERE WAS A VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT THE APPELLATE COURT RENDERED AND WE PROVIDED AN OPINION TO YOU ALL ON

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FEBRUARY 13TH OF THIS YEAR I'D BE HAPPY TO RECIRCULATED IF ANYBODY LIKE TO SEE A COPY THAT GOES INTO SOME DETAIL ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR COURT DECISION TWO POINTS OF ANALYSIS THE COURT GOT INTO WAS ONE WHETHER OR NOT IN BLOCKING MR. DAVISON THE CHAIR OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION ENGAGED IN WHAT IS KNOWN AS VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION UNDER THE COLOR OF STATE LAW WHETHER SHE WAS ACTUALLY OPERATING AS AN AGENT OF THE STATE OF THE GOVERNMENT WHEN SHE DECIDED TO BLOCK HIM. AND SECOND QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE INDIVIDUAL'S FACEBOOK PAGE WAS IN FACT A PUBLIC FORUM. AND THERE'S A PRETTY DETAILED ANALYSIS WHICH OUR MEMORANDUM DOES GO INTO AND AGAIN I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE KEY TURNING POINT IS WHETHER OR NOT YOUR. AND THIS IS THE CONTEXT OF FACEBOOK BUT THE SAME WOULD BE TRUE TO ANY SOCIAL MEDIA WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE UTILIZING SOCIAL MEDIA AS A QUOTE UNQUOTE TOOL OF GOVERNANCE AND IN THE DAVISON CASE THE COURT OUTLINED ABOUT EIGHT OR 10 DIFFERENT BULLETS THAT THEY RECOGNIZED THAT THAT LED THE COURT TO CONCLUDE THAT IN THIS CASE MISS MISS DAVISON WASN'T ASKED. MS RANDALL WAS IN FACT USING HER PAGE AS A GOVERNANCE TOOL. HER PAGE INCLUDED HER OFFICIAL TITLE AND IDENTIFIED HER AS A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL INCLUDED CONTACT INFORMATION FOR HER OFFICE AND INCLUDED IN THIS CASE IT WAS THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE ADDRESS. IT INCLUDED THE POSTS ON THE PAGE WERE SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TO HER CONSTITUENTS. SOME OF THE POSTS SHE SAID SHE SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF THE BODY SHE REPRESENTED SHE ENCOURAGED INTERACTION AMONG CONSTITUENTS ON THE PAGE AND THE CONTENT WAS CLEARLY RELATED TO HER PUBLIC OFFICE. THAT'S NOT ALL THE CONTENT ON THE PAGE. SHE ALSO HAD INFORMATION REGARDING HER GRANDMOTHER'S SALAD DRESSING RECIPE. I MEAN THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS ON THERE THAT WERE PERSONAL AND REALLY WERE NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC BUSINESS. BUT NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THE PAGE MAY HAVE INCLUDED CERTAIN PERSONAL NON-PUBLIC INFORMATION BECAUSE IT WAS PRIMARILY USED AS A TOOL OF GOVERNANCE THE COURT FOUND THAT IT MET THE CRITERIA OF THE STATE LAW COMPONENT. AND WHEN SHE DECIDED THE BAND'S INDIVIDUAL SHE WAS IN FACT OPERATING AS AN AGENT OF THE GOVERNMENT SHE FOUND THAT THE THAT THAT HURT HER CONDUCT IN DECIDING TO BLOCK THAT PERSON WAS A VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. THE PUBLIC FORUM ANALYSIS NUT CASE IS A LITTLE MORE CLEAR ONLY BECAUSE THERE'S TWO TYPES OF FOUR THAT THE COURTS HAVE RECOGNIZED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT. ONE IS A TRADITIONAL PUBLIC FORUM WHICH ARE SIDEWAYS PARKS PUBLIC PLACES THE TYPICAL PLACES WHERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN GET UP AND SPEAK AND THEY'VE AN ABSOLUTE ABSOLUTE RIGHT OF ACCESS TO DO THAT. A MORE LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM IS ONE IN WHICH A GOVERNMENT MAY CREATE A VENUE FOR SPECIFIC PUBLIC ACTIVITY BUT IT'S NOT OPEN TO ALL IT MAY BE OPEN TO SOME. AND THERE ARE CERTAIN INSTANCES WHERE A LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM IS LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THE PUBLIC THE TRADITIONAL VERSUS LIMITED WAS LESS OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION WHICH IS REALLY THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE IS PROHIBITED PROHIBITED IN BOTH CONTEXTS. BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY THE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FACEBOOK PAGE WAS FOUND TO BE A PUBLIC FORUM BY NATURE OF THE KIND OF CONDUCT THAT SHE ENGAGED IN ON THAT PAGE. AND ALL OF THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE LOOKED AT BY THE COURT. GIVEN ALL OF THOSE THINGS IT WAS FOUND THAT SHE HAD UNLAWFULLY BLOCKED ESSENTIALLY AND UNLAWFULLY DENIED ACCESS TO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO HER FACEBOOK PAGE. SO JUST A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS WE WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF AGAIN THAT THOSE ARE THE THREE OPERATIVE LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS IN THE CONTEXT OF SOCIAL MEDIA SUNSHINE LAW RECORDS RETENTION PUBLIC RECORDS. AND AGAIN NOW WE'VE SEEN BLOCKING ACCESS TO THOSE PAGES. IF YOU IN FACT USE YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE AS A TOOL OF GOVERNANCE. SO THOSE ARE THE LEGAL ISSUES I WANTED TO RAISE JUST AS A SUPPLEMENT TO ALISA'S PRESENTATION I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU MARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO I TAKE IT THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK. OK. MR. FISHMAN I AM GLAD THE CITY HAS JOINED NEXT DOOR BECAUSE I FOUND IT. I HAVE FOUND IT TO BE VERY HELPFUL TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT. MY QUESTION WOULD BE THAT I'VE HAD MY OWN PERSONAL NEXT STORE PAGE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW OR YEARS WOULD I HAVE TO SHUT THAT ONE DOWN AND GO INTO THE ONE THROUGH THE CITY WHERE CAN I KEEP THEM BOTH OPEN AND IT IS ONE FOR PERSONAL AND ONE FOR CITY. HOW'S THAT GOING TO WORK. I THINK THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST ABLE AND I CAN ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO READ YOU SOMETHING FROM THE NEXT TO OUR TERMS OF SERVICE WHICH SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THAT THAT ISSUE TO QUALIFY FOR A SPECIAL ENTITY ACCOUNT WHICH IS AGAIN THE TYPE OF ACCOUNT WE'RE SPEAKING WITH YOU MUST BE AN EMPLOYEE OR OTHER AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ENTITY AND WHICH WHICH LEASE OBVIOUSLY IS SHE'S BEEN APPROVED BY NEXT DOOR FOR INCLUSION IN THE SPECIAL ENTITY PROGRAM AND THE CITY HAS BEEN APPROVED. YOU MAY UTILIZE YOUR ENTITIES ACCOUNT ONLY FOR OFFICIAL

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BUSINESS AND ONLY IN YOUR OFFICIAL CAPACITY YOU ARE ENCOURAGED TO CREATE YOUR OWN PERSONAL ACCOUNT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF RESIDENCE FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE. OK SO THE KEY ISSUE IS GOING TO BE HOW YOU USE YOUR PERSONAL ACCOUNT VERSUS HOW YOU WOULD UTILIZE THE ACCOUNT CREATED FOR YOU BY THE CITY. OK. BECAUSE I I'VE BEEN USING MY ACCOUNT FOR SO LONG AND I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN AND OPEN A BRAND NEW ONE. BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO CREATE THE PUBLIC RECORD WHEN I'VE USED MY NEXT STORE ACCOUNT. SO I'M VERY GLAD THAT NEXT DOOR IN THE CITY WE'RE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THIS AS A ALTERNATIVE. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO VERIFY IS SOMETHING YOU SAID MR. CITY ATTORNEY YOU SAID THAT IF A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST WAS MADE OF ALL SOCIAL MEDIA FOR A PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER WOULDN'T THAT BE TOO BROAD. WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO LOOK FOR SPECIFIC TERMS OR IF IT WAS A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT WE HAD. I MEAN ALL IS A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA. IT IS. THE ANSWER IS IT WOULD DEPEND. OK. ALL MEDIA IS ASSUMING THAT CONTENT MET THE DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF A PUBLIC RECORD IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC RECORD THAT NEEDED TO BE PRODUCED IF THE PERSON WERE TO MAKE A REQUEST FOR ALL SOCIAL MEDIA. OUR CLERK'S OFFICE CAN HELP THE REQUESTER TO NARROW THE SCOPE OF THAT REQUEST IF THEY'RE IN FACT ONLY LOOKING FOR INFORMATION WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME OR RELATED TO A CERTAIN TOPIC. THE CLERK CAN HELP THE REQUESTS OR TRY TO NARROW THAT SCOPE. BUT IF THE INDIVIDUAL SAYS I WANT ALL OF THIS COMMISSIONER SOCIAL MEDIA SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME AND ALL THAT INFORMATION IS PUBLIC RECORD AND IT STILL HAS NOT MET A RETENTION SCHEDULE BY WHICH YOU WOULD NEED TO BE KEPT IT WOULD NEED TO BE PRODUCED. NOW AGAIN THAT THE TIME TO RESPOND TO THAT REQUEST MAY BE MAY NOT BE AS CLEAR BECAUSE THE CITY NEEDS TO RESPOND IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES REASONABLE CAN MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS AND DIFFERENT. FOR INSTANCE OK SO IF SOMEBODY PUT IT IN A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST FOR MY FACEBOOK SOCIAL MEDIA WOULD IT BE FROM THE TIME I STARTED MY ACCOUNT OR FROM THE TIME I BECAME A COMMISSIONER WOULD BE FROM THE TIME AT THE TIME YOU BECAME THE COMMISSIONER IN WHICH YOUR CONTACT BECAME PUBLIC. OK. MISSION BOLTON GOOD MORNING.

ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK THIS IS A IS A GREAT IDEA IN AN EFFORT TO SHOW THAT WE ARE TRANSPARENT. I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO GIVE US ACCESS TO NEXT DOOR AND I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS A RESULT OF THAT CONVERSATION. AND THAT REQUEST I THINK NEXT DOOR IS A GREAT TOOL TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO TELL THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE'RE DOING TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE ENGAGING THEM AND TELL THEM ABOUT COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND DISTRICT MEETINGS AND NOT GREAT STUFF. SO I THINK YOU AT LEAST FOR WORKING ON THAT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMES ON STREAM. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE THE CHAIR TO THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY IS WHAT WOULD YOUR OPINION BE GOING FORWARD. FOR INSTANCE ON NEXT DOOR SEEING THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY HOSTING WHAT THE COMMISSIONER'S POST WOULD SIMILARLY BE ARCHIVED SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY DRAWBACKS BECAUSE THE CITY'S ALREADY ENGAGING ON NEXT DOOR. I WOULD AGREE. GOOD. AND THEN A QUESTION TO ELISE HOW DO WE ARCHIVE THE INFORMATION CURRENTLY ON FACEBOOK OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AS WELL AS NEXT DOOR. WE HAVE.

EXCUSE ME WE HAVE AN OUTSIDE SERVICE THAT DOES THAT FOR US. OK. WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE OUTSIDE SERVER ARCHIVE SOCIAL ARCHIVES OK. AND THEN SO WHEN WE ARE ON NEXT DOOR.

THIS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OUR DISTRICT IS CARVED OUT AND SO WOULD BE ABLE TO PUSH INFORMATION TO ALL OF DISTRICT. HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UNMIXED DOOR IN EACH DISTRICT OR CITYWIDE TOTAL. I

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CAN GET YOU THAT I'LL GET YOU THE AND I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD BE STRICTLY INTERESTED IN THAT TOO BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT NEXT DOOR IS THAT IF YOU LIVE IN A CERTAIN COMMUNITY. YOU ONLY LIKE IF A BETTER TERM TWEET TO THAT COMMUNITY. BUT THEN THIS WOULD BE TWEETING TO THE ENTIRE DISTRICT AND IT GETS THEM THE INFORMATION FASTER. NOW WHAT HAS YOUR SUCCESS BEEN SO FAR ON NEXT DOOR SINCE THE CITY HAS BEEN PUSHING UP INFORMATION MARGINAL YOU KNOW IT'S ONE OF MANY RESOURCES THAT WE USE BY FAR WE'RE GETTING MUCH MORE INTERACTION WITH FACEBOOK. BUT YOU KNOW I GUESS AS WE AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD HOPEFULLY THE INTERACTION WILL INCREASE. RIGHT. JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL AS MY MYSELF AND LAURA WENT TO A MEETING WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH NATURE WE BOARD AND ONE OF THE EACH WOMEN. DIRECTORS MENTIONED THAT WE ARE NOW IN NEXT DOOR AND HOW REFRESHING IT WAS FOR HER TO SEE THAT WE ARE ON NEXT DOOR AND WE'RE PUSHING OUT INFORMATION. AND SHE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD THING THAT THE CITY WAS DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT INFORMATION IS PUSHED OUT THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S THE START. SO EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY RESPOND TO THE COMMENT YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEEING IT AND ACTUALLY APPRECIATING THAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING THAT. SO THE CITY IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE TRANSPARENT AND THAT'S THE STUFF I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT. BUT MY IDEA FOR BRINGING NEXT DOOR TO THIS CITY IS NOT ORIGINAL MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER YELLEN WENT TO A TRAINING AND FORGOT WHAT THE ORGANIZATION IS. AND THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WERE USING NEXT DOOR TO PUSH INFORMATION OUT AND THAT'S THE STUFF. AND SO YOU KNOW OTHER CITIES OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING AND I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY TIME FOR US TO DO THAT. NOW ANOTHER QUESTION TO JACOB DEFINE DIALOGUE WHEN YOU SAY TWO COMMISSIONERS NOT DIALOGUE ON FACEBOOK. IS IT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A HOT TOPIC IN THE COMMUNITY AND A BLOGGER LOCAL BLOGGER WRITES THIS A NEW STORY AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON MAKES A POST SAYING HOW DARE YOU WRITE THIS FOOLERY ABOUT ME AND IMAGINE A ACADEMIES THAT NEVER HAPPENS AND TAMARA AND THEN YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF POSTS DOWN LET'S SAY COMMISSIONER BLANCO SAYS OH YES THIS ARTICLE IS FOOLERY IS THAT DIALOGUE OR IS IT TWO SEPARATE POSTS. THE ANSWER IS IT MIGHT BE AND WE TEND TO TAKE A FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE VIEW OF THIS. IF THIS ISSUE IN THERE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF TERMS OF ART THAT YOU'VE FALLEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SUNSHINE LAW CRYSTALLIZATION OF IDEAS INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION. THESE ARE ALL TERMS FROM THE CASE LAW AND GOING INTO WHETHER OR NOT A DIALOGUE HAS OCCURRED BETWEEN MEMBERS OF A COLLEGIAL BODY. THERE ALSO IS A CONCEPT WHERE YOU CAN'T USE AN INTERMEDIARY OR A THIRD PARTY AS A CONDUIT BETWEEN TWO MEMBERS OF A COLLEGIAL BODY NOR CAN YOU USE ANY METHOD MOTOR MEANS AS AN EVASIVE DEVICE TO CIRCUMVENT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW. SO IF COMMISSIONER FLACCO WERE TO POST A COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO A BLOG POST AND TWO POSTS DOWN YOU WERE TO RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER FLACCO OR OFFER SOMETHING IN RESPONSE TO THE POST THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED TO BE A DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU. I WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT AND WHEN ASKED THE QUESTION WE ROUTINELY CAUTION AGAINST THEM. I THINK THAT THAT OPENS THE DOOR TO SOME VERY QUESTIONABLE WATERS BUT AS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY THROUGHOUT EUROPE. IF THE SUN-SENTINEL WROTE THE STORY AND SUN-SENTINEL MADE A COMMENT AND THEY SAID WHEN SPEAKING TO COMMISSIONER BOWLES AND HE SAID THAT HE WAS ALL FOR THE WHITMONT DEVELOPMENT AND HE WILL MORE THAN

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LIKELY VOTE YES AND THE NEWSPAPER TOOK MY COMMENT VERBATIM AND THEY PUT IT OUT THERE. WOULDN'T THE NEWSPAPER NOW BECOME A CONDUIT OR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO REMEMBER IT. IF I MADE IT IT'S IT'S OKAY FOR ONE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION OR OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO KNOW WHAT A ANOTHER MEMBER MAY THINK ABOUT A PARTICULAR IDEA. THE FACT THAT YOUR COLLEAGUES KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT A PARTICULAR PROJECT IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT AN ISSUE UNDER THE SUNSHINE LAW. THE ISSUE IS THE INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION AND YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT IN THE CONTEXT OF JOURNALISTS AND REPORTERS BECAUSE WE SEE THIS QUITE A BIT WHERE A REPORTER MAY CALL THE MAYOR AND ASK FOR A COMMENT ABOUT A PARTICULAR ISSUE MAY HANG UP THE PHONE AND CALL THE VICE MAYOR AND SAY I JUST SPOKE TO THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR THINKS THIS WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE THE REPORTER INNOCENTLY AND UNKNOWINGLY MAY BE ACTING AS A CONDUIT OR INTERMEDIARY BETWEEN TWO MEMBERS OF A COLLEGIAL BODY. AND THE BURDEN IS ON YOU ALL AS THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS FRANKLY TO BE MINDFUL OF THOSE RISKS. BUT THE FACT THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT A PARTICULAR ISSUE DOES NOT TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW. IT'S NOT TO SAY YOU CAN'T BOTH BE AT THE SAME O A MEETING HEARING THE SAME THING OR VOCALIZING AN OPINION. THE KEY IS GOING TO BE THE INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU OR THE USE OF A THIRD PARTY NON BOARD MEMBER AS AN INTERMEDIARY BETWEEN THE TWO. IT IS SAD THAT JOURNALISTS DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. I MEAN A JOURNALIST FROM TIME WRITE TALK REACHED OUT TO ME THE OTHER DAY FOR A COMMENT AND I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMENT AND THEN SURPRISINGLY YOU KNOW I COME TO A MEETING AND THEN HERE OTHER COMMISSIONERS SAY OH THE JOURNALISTS FROM THE TAMARACK TALK PEER REVIEWED WEBSITE SAID ASK THE SAME QUESTION YOU KNOW SO I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT AT SOME POINT YOU KNOW REPORTERS AND JOURNALISTS UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY OFFER JUST ONE. ONE OTHER COMMENT ON THAT POINT ON A RELATED POINT YOU WANTED WHAT I THOUGHT THIS WAS A STEWART OBSERVATION FROM A AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT WHO INQUIRED OF US NOT NOT IN TAMARACK BUT IN ANOTHER CITY THE SUNSHINE LAW ESSENTIALLY HAS CREATED A SITUATION WHERE THE FIRST PERSON TO COMMENT GETS TO GETS TO BE THE VOCAL ONE BECAUSE IN OTHER WORDS IF THERE'S A BLOG POST AND YOU POST YOUR COMMENT AS COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND YOU SAY HOW YOU FEEL IN RESPONSE TO THAT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION CAN READ THAT THEY CAN KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BUT THEY CAN'T RESPOND TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S THE IT TAKES THE SECOND PART OF THE INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION TO TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW THE ONE WAY COMMUNICATION IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH IT TAKES THE INTERACTION IT TAKES THAT RESPONSE SO THEN JUST TO BE CLEAR NOT THE CITY BUT THE CITY. NORTH OF US TWO COMMISSIONERS ARE STANDING AND ONE COMMISSIONER SAYS I DON'T LIKE THAT MOBILE GAS STATION THAT IS COMING UP ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK AND THE OTHER AGENDA AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONER JUST DOES NOT SEE A WORD THAT IS NOT DIALOGUE THAT IS NOT DIALOGUE. THAT IS NOT BREAKING THE LAW. IT TAKES THE INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION AND THEN FINALLY EXPLAIN COLLEGIAL BODY. I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. I KNOW MEMBERS OF THE SAME PARTY. BUT WHAT IF I ENGAGE SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE OR THE PLANNING BOARD OR THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD THAT'S CAIN OR WE'RE NOT A PART OF THE SUNSHINE LAW APPLIES TO MEMBERS OF THE SAME COLLEGIAL BODY ALTHOUGH CANDIDLY IT APPLIES TO THE FIVE OF YOU IN THIS CONTEXT. BUT IT DOES NOT PREVENT YOU FROM SPEAKING TO MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD OR MEMBERS OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE BOARD OR MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD. IT APPLIES TO THE MEMBERS OF THE SAME COLLEGIAL BODY AND THE CONTEXT OF THE RESTRICTIONS IN THE SUNSHINE LAW. EVEN IF THE MATTER IS COMING BEFORE THEM AND ALSO CORRECT YIELD FOR NO MICHELLE. SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP YOU MENTIONED INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OFFICIALS. SO IF TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE AT A TWO WEEK MEETING BY INVITATION AGENT AND WE'RE GIVEN OUR VIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING OR FOR THE LAST QUARTER IT'S OK IS IT OK THAT BOTH PARTIES JUST GIVE THEIR VIEWPOINT AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND THEY'RE PROBABLY

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A DOZEN OPINIONS OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL EXAMINING THAT EXACT ISSUE IN A VARIETY WAYS IN THE CONTEXT OF HLA MEETINGS IN THE CONTEXT OF CIVIC EVENTS POLITICAL ASSOCIATIONS IS ONE REGARDING THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO PUT ON A POLITICAL FORUM.

THE ISSUE IS THE INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION. THERE ALSO IS AS I SAID THAT ISSUE OF THE INTERMEDIARY CONCEPT WHERE IF YOU GET UP AND SPEAK AT AN HLA MEETING AND THEN THE MAYOR GETS UP AND DOESN'T SPEAK TO YOU BUT SPEAKS TO THE HLA BOARD BUT IS DIRECTLY RESPONDING TO YOUR COMMENTS IT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS A COMMUNICATION AS AN INTERACTIVE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU USING A THIRD PARTY. IT WENT WHEN IT'S INEVITABLE THAT MEMBERS OF THE SAME COLLEGIAL BODY WILL ATTEND A JOINT MEETINGS AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S TRUE AND THE LAW UNDERSTANDS THAT TO BE TRUE YOU KNOW FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE FROM THE FROM THE ATTORNEYS OFFICE ACTIVITY YOU NEED TO BE MINDFUL ONE THAT PERCEPTION IS REALITY AND THAT WHEN YOU ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS YOU JUST NEED TO BE ON YOUR GUARD THAT THERE ARE OTHER RESTRICTIONS LIMITATIONS AND YOU'RE IN A PUBLIC ROOM WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION. WE WOULD CAUTION YOU AGAINST SITTING TOGETHER AT THOSE MEETINGS. THERE ARE INSTANCES NOT IN TAMARACK BUT SOME OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE A POLICY WHERE IF ONE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION ATTENDS NHL A MEETING GETS UP TO SPEAK THE OTHER MEMBERS WILL LEAVE THE ROOM. THAT'S A POLICY THAT THEY'VE TAKEN UPON THEMSELVES TO IMPLEMENT. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE JUST AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW SOME OTHER BODIES HAVE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE. BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE BOTH OR AT LEAST TWO OF YOU ARE AT A JOEY MEETING OR ANOTHER PUBLIC MEETING ONE OF YOU GETS UP AND SPEAKS AND THE OTHERS MAY HEAR THAT CONVERSATION THAT WILL NOT TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW UNLESS THERE IS AN INTERACTION AND THEN THERE'S A DIALOGUE RESTRICTED TO ONLY ITEMS THAT RELATE TO THE CITY OR IF I MAKE A POST ABOUT THE MIAMI HEAT AND SOMEBODY ELSE RESPONDS MATTERS THAT WILL FORCIBLY COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION. THERE CAN BE A DIALOGUE INVOLVED AND THE SUNSHINE LAW IS NOT INTENDED TO PREVENT YOU FROM BEING FRIENDS OR SEEING EACH OTHER SOCIALLY. KEEPING IN MIND THAT PERCEPTION IS OFTEN REALITY AND IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE OUT IN PUBLIC AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WEATHER OR THE DOLPHINS OR THE HEATER IT'S THE CASE WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE IT MAY BE INNOCUOUS AND INNOCENT ENOUGH INTO IT BUT THE PERCEPTION OF THAT CONVERSATION COULD BE SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT. HAS ANYONE EVER CHALLENGED THE LAW ABOUT THE SUNSHINE LAW ABOUT SOME SOCIAL MEDIA POLLS AND RESPONSES NOT ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA. NO.

THERE ACTUALLY ARE NO STATE COURT DECISIONS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA REGARDING ANY OF THESE ISSUES SPECIFIC TO SOCIAL MEDIA. THERE IS SUNSHINE LAW CASES THAT GO BACK QUITE A FEW YEARS. THERE'S THE FEDERAL TRIAL COURT DECISION REGARDING THE PRESIDENT'S TWITTER ACCOUNT AND THE ONLY FEDERAL APPELLATE COURT DECISION THAT'S BEEN ISSUED THUS FAR IS THE DAVIDSON VERSUS RANDALL CASE OUT OF VIRGINIA SO FOR FOUR FOR THE WARMERS I GUESS THE CITY MANAGER OR CIO IF WE DECIDE TO TAKE A SPECIAL ENTITY ACCOUNT WE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO OUR DISTRICT ONLY. WHY DON'T WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE CITY. BECAUSE ON MATTERS THAT WE VOTE ON MOST OFTEN IT IMPACTS THE ENTIRE CITY. WELL IT'S JUST LIKE A DISTRICT MAILING LISTS.

WE SEND OUT A MAILING IT GOES TO YOUR DISTRICT. RIGHT. IT'S THE SAME PROCESS RIGHT. BUT BUT BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE LIKE THERE I'M GOING TO BE VOTING ON TODAY. THAT IMPACTS THE ENTIRE CITY SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIRST OF ALL HOW DOES NEXT DOOR. I'M SORRY. JACOB HOW DOES HOW DO HOW DO THEY DEFINE POLITICAL ACTIVITY THAT MEAN CAMPAIGNING PROMOTING YOURSELF IN TERMS OF. I'M RUNNING FOR OFFICE OR DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN'T DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE. I'LL READ YOU THE LANGUAGE I MADE. THIS IS AGAIN FROM THEIR TERMS OF SERVICE. SPECIAL ENTITY ACCOUNTS ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE USED FOR MARKETING PURPOSES OR FOR WE USED TO ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST A PARTICULAR CANDIDATE OFFICE HOLDER POLITICAL PARTY OR BALLOT MEASURE I.E. CAMPAIGNING OR POLITIC SO THEN SO THEN ALL WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO BASED ON THOSE DEFINITIONS IS POST BOTH THOSE AGENDAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AGAIN I CAN'T BEGIN TO CONTEMPLATE WHAT YOU WOULD DO WHAT YOU WANT BUT ACTIVITY BEYOND POLITICAL ACTIVITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENGAGE IN I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THERE IS QUITE A BIT BUT I DO WITH THE RESTRICTION TELLS US. OKAY SO I DO HAVE A PERSONAL ON NEXT TO OUR ACCOUNT THEN. SO I JUST USE MY NAME. I DON'T IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A CITY COMMISSIONER BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WILL KNOW OBVIOUSLY THAT I'M A CITY COMMISSIONER. AND SO I WAS CALLED OUT BECAUSE A CAR WAS STILL IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO MY AS A CONTACT YOUR COMMISSIONER LIVES ON THAT SAME BLOCK. I MEAN RESPOND IF I DID RESPOND IN THAT PUBLIC RECORD.

ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT PUBLIC OFFICIALS CAN

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CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY IN THE STATE AND THEY'RE WRESTLING WITH A VERY VERY AND SO SINCE SINCE THE NEXT DOOR I COUNT OR THE SPECIAL YOUTH ACCOUNT CANNOT BE USED FOR POLITICAL ACTIVITY WHAT ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS ON THE PERSONAL USE AND USING THAT FOR POLITICAL ACTIVITY. THE SPECIAL ACCOUNT HAS THOSE SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS. YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PERSONAL ACCOUNT THESE SAME LIMITATIONS ARE NOT INCLUDED. OK. SO YOU'VE USED. YES ONLY THE ISSUE I HAVE THAT FOR A WHILE THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE IS I THINK WE SHOULD ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE CITY BECAUSE WE'RE WE WE HAVE TO INTERACT WITH RESIDENTS. FOR EXAMPLE I'M MEETING WITH RESIDENTS AND VICE MAYOR OF PLACARDS DISTRICT REGARDING THE WALMART HOTEL. AND SO IF I WANT TO MAKE COMMENT ABOUT THAT AND I'M ONLY WISHES RESTRICTED TO DISTRICT 2 THEN I'M NOT GOING TO REACH THAT AUDIENCE. I THINK I SHOULD FEEL THE REACH AN AUDIENCE WE SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO REACH AUDIENCES IN ALL OF OUR DISTRICT. SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE. WE HAVE 34 INVESTMENTS COMING UP AT SOME POINT. ALL OF US HAVE GOTTEN EMAILS FROM DIFFERENT RESIDENTS. I THINK I THINK THEY SHOULD ALL HAVE ACCESS TO DISTRICT 2 TO DISCUSS MATTERS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT. SO I THINK I THINK WE SHOULD ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE CITY VICE MAYOR ANYONE HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT. THAT'S AMERICAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK ANY AVENUE THAT'S OPEN TO US TO REACH OUR RESIDENTS IS EXCELLENT. I TOO HAVE A QUEST TO KNOW MY RESIDENTS TEND TO BE VERY VOCAL AND NO DOUBT THEY WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM COMING BACK TO ME ABOUT AN ISSUE AND SAYING WELL YOU KNOW I SPOKE TO THE MAYOR AND SHE SAID YOU KNOW SHE'S IN FAVOR OF IT. SO AS LONG AS I DON'T RESPOND BACK TO THAT SAYING OKAY I AGREE WITH HER I DISAGREE WITH HER OR ANYTHING THEN THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE. AND AGAIN IT'S A COMMON OCCURRENCE BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW AND IT'S VERY INNOCENT AND PEOPLE PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THE CONDUIT THEORY IS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE LAW AND PEOPLE TALK TO ALL FIVE OF YOU OR THE MAYOR OR THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER ALL THE TIME SO THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S INEVITABLE. THE KEY IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT PERSON SAYING WELL YOU KNOW I AGREE WANT TO TELL THE MAYOR THAT YOU KNOW I'M ON BOARD. YOU KNOW IT'S USING THAT INTERMEDIARY TO AS A GO BETWEEN AND I'LL OFFER JUST ONE KIND OF REAL WORLD EXAMPLE WHERE THIS ISSUE WAS ACTUALLY PROSECUTED IN VERY RECENT TIME. YOU MAY HAVE FOLLOWED THE SITUATION WITH BROWARD HEALTH OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS ROUND NUMBERS WHERE THREE OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS WERE CHARGED WITH SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATIONS RIGHT ALONG WITH THEIR FORMER CEO AND THEIR FORMER GENERAL COUNSEL. THE ISSUE WAS ONE OF THE ALLEGATIONS WAS THAT THE CEO AND THE GENERAL COUNSEL WERE ACTING AS A CONDUIT BETWEEN THEIR BOARD MEMBERS AND HAVING INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH THOSE BOARD MEMBERS IN A SEQUENTIAL MANNER GOING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER AND SERVING AS A FACILITATOR OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS SO THAT WHEN THE BOARD WALKED INTO A MEETING AND DECIDED TO FIRE THE FORMER INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION BECAUSE ALL THE DISCUSSION ESSENTIALLY HAD BEEN PREDETERMINED THROUGH THOSE INTERMEDIARY CONVERSATIONS. NOW AGAIN THE CHARGE IN THAT CASE WERE DROPPED AND THE FACTS YOU KNOW LED TO THAT ULTIMATE CONCLUSION. I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS AS IT RELATED TO THAT ANSWER. I KNOW THE CHARGES WERE THERE WAS A UNIQUE SITUATION THERE BECAUSE IN THAT CASE THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE SEEN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHERE NON BOARD MEMBERS WERE CHARGED WITH SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATIONS.

TYPICALLY IT'S THE IT'S THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS IT'S YOU ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COLLEGIAL BODY THAT ARE TYPICALLY FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION OR ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN IN VIOLATION. IN THAT CASE THE FORMER CEO AND THE FORMER GENERAL COUNSEL ALSO CHARGED THAT THEY WEREN'T CHARGED WITH SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATIONS THEY WERE CHARGED WITH CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATIONS AND SOLICITATION OF SUNSHINE LAW VIOLATIONS. SO IT WAS WAS A SECONDARY OFFENSE THAT HELPED CARRY THE SAME PENALTIES AS THE UNDERLYING CHARGE BUT IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THAT CONDUIT THEORY THAT LED TO THOSE CHARGES. OK. SO I GUESS THE GUIDELINES ARE EXTREMELY CAREFUL CAREFUL DON'T OFTEN AN OPINION THAT MAY BE MISCONSTRUED BECAUSE I COULD SEE THEM SAYING WELL COMMISSIONER PASCOE TOLD ME YOU KNOW SHE'S IN FAVOR OF THIS BUT COMMISSIONER BOLTON SAID HE'S NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. AND THEN YOU GET THAT AND THAT PERSON MAY NEVER GO BACK AND COMMUNICATE HOW YOU FELT TO THE MAYOR OR TO COMMISSIONER BOLTON SO THAT THERE MAY NOT BE THE COMPLETION OF THAT INTERACTION BECAUSE IT TAKES ALL THE LOOPS NEED TO BE RAISED IN ORDER TO CIRCLE THAT. OK. ALL IN ALL I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. ALSO KEEP IN MIND EVERYBODY THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLES

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I LIKE TO SAY I SPOKE TO SO AND SO IN HER OPINION OR HIS OPINION IS THIS. THEY'D LIKE TO PLACE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT OUR OPINIONS ARE. SO WHETHER IT'S A REPORTER OR SOMEBODY ON FACEBOOK OR ANOTHER NEXT DOOR SAYING THAT I SPOKE TO THE MAYOR AND SHE SAID THIS MAYBE YOU WANT TO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THAT MIGHT BE TRUE. AS FAR AS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING IT BY DISTRICT AND BY MAYOR AND BEING TO THE SIZE OF OUR DISTRICTS AND WHAT WE RUN AGAINST. I THINK THAT PLATFORM IS APPROPRIATE AND I THINK THAT THERE IS WHILE I AM NOT MUCH ON SOCIAL MEDIA WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF THESE ISSUES AT WE CAN FACE WHEN PEOPLE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS AND TALK FOR US OUT THERE. I AM HAPPY THAT NEXT DOOR HAS EVOLVED INTO A WAY THAT SUITS OR PROTECTS US FOR A FORM THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THAT WILL HAVE THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. SO IT'S NOT THE ONUS ON US NOT THE CONCERN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE UNINTENTIONALLY VIOLATING ANY RULES REGULATIONS AND STATUTES. SO MAYBE WITH THIS FORUM KNOWING THE PROTECTIONS ARE THERE I WOULD BE HAPPIER TO BE ABLE TO POST THINGS NOW WITH THAT SO COMMISSIONER GALLOWAY I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER THE THERE WOULD BE SOMETHING CITYWIDE. AS MAYOR I'LL BE PROUD TO HOST THINGS OUT THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY CITYWIDE. I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR INFORMATION OUT THERE. THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE. THEY KNOW WHERE WE'RE LOCATED. BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN ENTITIES WHETHER IT BE FACEBOOK OR TWITTER WHERE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO'S WHO. I KNOW WE GET E-MAILS ALL THE TIME FROM PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SHARE THEIR REAL NAMES WITH US OR WHERE THEY ACTUALLY ARE LOCATED. SO HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA DO A POST OUT WHETHER ANY ONE OF US HERE DO A POST OUT THAT THE PERSON RESPONDING TO US MIGHT NOT BE THAT THIRD PERSON INTERMEDIARY. I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY ON OUR COMMISSION WOULD WOULD COME UNDER A PSEUDONYM BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT COULD BE OUT THERE. HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. THE ANSWER IS IT'S PROBABLY A SITUATION YOU CAN'T CONTEMPLATE. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE ONE OF THE UNIQUE COMPONENTS OF THE SPECIAL ENTITY ACCOUNTS ON NEXT DOOR IS THERE IS NO ANONYMITY ON THOSE ACCOUNTS. WHEN YOU POST YOU'LL BE POSTING UNDER YOUR NAME WITH YOUR TITLE SO. SO THAT THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER IN THAT PARTICULAR PLATFORM. MY UNDERSTANDING IS ON FACEBOOK WHEN SOMEBODY POSTS ON A WALL THEY POST AS THEIR USER NAME. SO THERE'S NOT AN AN AN AN ANONYMOUS POSTING ON FACEBOOK. IT GETS TO BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BLOGS. YOU KNOW SOME OF THE LOCAL POLITICAL BLOGS OR THE COMMENTS SECTION TO A SUN-SENTINEL ARTICLE WHERE YOU CAN POST UNDER A HANDLE OR A PSEUDONYM OR SO ANONYMOUSLY. THE ANSWER IS YOU MAY NOT KNOW. YOU SIMPLY MAY NOT KNOW THERE'S IF THERE'S NOT A GOOD ANSWER AND THAT'S AN INSTANCE WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY THE LAW REALLY HAS NOT CAUGHT UP WITH THAT COMPONENT OF THE TECHNOLOGY. BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY THERE YOU CAN HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AN E-MAIL ADDRESS AND USE A DIFFERENT NAME. IT DOESN'T ASK YOU WHO YOU REALLY ARE. IT'S NOT NECESSARY SAYING WHO IT IS. AND I DO HAVE A NEXT DOOR ACCOUNT BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHERS ON OUR COMMISSION WHO ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO IT I NOT SAY THAT ANYTHING ON IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO BE ACCUSED OF BEING A. POLITICALLY AND HAVING A CONVERSATION WHERE IT CAN GET US IN TROUBLE OR HAVING ANY INTERMEDIARIES IN THERE AS WELL. SO I GUESS HAVING A SPECIFIC ACCOUNT THAT COMES STRAIGHT FROM THE CITY WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THAT CONCERN. AND YOUR OTHER POINT. IT IS POSSIBLE FOR MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC SIGN UP FOR NEXT DOOR UNDER A PSEUDONYM. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. BECAUSE YOU JUST KIND OF ASKED THE RIVER NEIGHBORS AND YOU KNOW THEIR E-MAIL ADDRESSES AND AGAIN EVERYBODY AT TODAY'S DAY AND AGE AND HAVE LIKE 20 E-MAIL ADDRESSES OR E-MAIL ACCOUNTS FOR THEMSELVES. ONE ITEM FOR THOSE BROUGHT UP WITH COMMISSIONER GALEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY MINDFUL AND ACTUALLY GO TO SOME OF THE MEETINGS WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON AS WELL. WE TRY TO HAVE A DULY NOTICED BUT WE DON'T TAKE BACK MINUTES TO OUR CITY. SO FOR THOSE DULY NOTICED ONES DO WE NEED TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO HAVE MINUTES BROUGHT BACK TO YOU AND HAVE THEM POSTED. OR IS IT OK THAT THE ORGANIZATION WE WENT TO ALREADY

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HAS THE MINUTES IN THEIR RECORDS THE THREE REQUIREMENTS THE ON THE NOTICE THERE'S THE FACT THAT THE MEETING TAKES PLACE IN AN OPEN FORUM WHERE THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT OF ACCESS. AND THE THIRD AS MINUTES AS YOU SAID POSTING HELPS YOU IF MORE THAN TWO OR MORE OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME. THE UNIVERSITY BUSINESS WILL BE DISCUSSED HOSTING IS ALWAYS A GOOD PRECAUTIONARY MATTER. BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE OF THE THREE REQUIREMENTS. SO HAVING SOME FORM OF MINUTES TAKEN WOULD CERTAINLY BE A BIG KEY PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. IF THE BOARD THE HP BOARD TAKES THOSE MINUTES THAT HELPS. IF THE MINUTES WERE SENT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT WOULD HELP MORE BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A RECORD OF THOSE MINUTES FOR THE MEETINGS THAT YOU ATTENDED. SO THEN WHEN GOING TO THOSE MEANS WE CAN MAKE SURE WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE FACT THE MINUTES ARE BEING TAKEN IS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH JUST BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY ALSO LIKE TO VOTE ON THE MINUTES THEY HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT MEETING WHICH IS THREE OR FOUR MONTHS LATER IF THEY'RE QUARTERLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND I KNOW THAT FOR A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WHEN COMMISSIONER GALLEN AND I HAVE NOT BEEN CERTAIN IF THE POSTING HAS OCCURRED THEN BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED IS I HAVE SPOKEN AND I LEAVE COMPLETELY. SO THIS WAY TO NOT HAVE ANY LOOK OF IMPROPRIETY OR ANY CONCERNS OR ANY THIRD PARTY I GUESS CONSIDERING THAT SOME OF US LIVE IN OTHER COMMISSIONERS DISTRICTS IT'LL BE INCUMBENT UPON OR IF I PUT OUT A POST TO EVERYBODY EVERYBODY LIVES IN THE CITY THAT THE MAYOR IS DISTRICT SO TO SPEAK THEN IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT UPON US TO NOT RESPOND TO THOSE POSTINGS. IS THAT CORRECT. FOR IF WE HAVE ANY THINGS THAT GO OUT ANYTHING THAT GOES OUT ON NEXT DOOR OR ANY OF THESE POSTINGS THEN IT'S BEST THAT NONE OF US RESPOND ON THESE POSTINGS TO AVOID ANY KIND OF JUST ONE CONFIRMATION TO IT WAS I'LL SAY MISSION AGAIN YES SAW JUST MORE CLARITY FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY. CAN YOU GIVE US GUIDANCE ON WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO BASED ON THE TERMS IN TALKING SPECIFIC TO NEXT DOOR. YES THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO NEXT DOOR OR EVEN LIKE MY COMMISSIONER AND ELLEN INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT AND LOOKING AT THE REQUIREMENTS HERE USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA AS A TOOL OF GOVERNANCE. I'M USING IT AS A TOOL OF GOVERNANCE. I MEAN MAYBE I AM BUT LIKE I DON'T HAVE MY CITY WEBSITE HERE. I USE MY I HAVE MY PERSONAL WEBSITE ADDRESS THERE ON MY PROFILE BUT JUST AS MIKE GELMAN POLITICIANS CITY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 2 TAMARA I DON'T HAVE MY CITY COMMISSION WEBSITE AND MY OWN WEBSITE THERE IS JUST ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THOSE TOOLS OF GOVERNANCE CRITERIA THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT EXAMINE IS WHETHER OR NOT A FORUM HAD BEEN CREATED THAT YOU COULD OTHERWISE DENY SOMEBODY ACCESS TO. OK SO SO LONG AS YOU'RE NOT BLOCKING PEOPLE FROM YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AND THEN THE ANSWER THE QUESTION REALLY WILL MATTER. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SO I MEAN I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T POST ON NEXT DOOR GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF THE LIMITATION ON POLITICKING RIGHT. RIGHT. OR I MEAN WE SHARE OUR OPINION OR A PENDING MATTER ON AN AGENDA. YEAH. IF THE KEY IS WHEN YOU POST YOUR OPINION ABOUT A MATTER OF COMING ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT'S AGENDA THE MAYOR RESPOND TO YOUR SO IT GOES BACK TO THAT STATEMENT YOU MADE EARLIER WHERE WHOEVER MAKES A POST FIRST BASICALLY HAS THE ADVANTAGE. WELL WHAT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR POSITION PETITIONER AND THEN REGARDING VOTERS WHO ASK WHAT ARE HOW WE PLAN TO VOTE ON CERTAIN MATTERS. MEAN WE CAN GIVE THEM OUR OPINION. WE'RE NOT REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR WHETHER OR NOT THEY GO BAD RIGHT. OK ALL RIGHT. SO THEN I JUST WANT TO KNOW FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S CONSENSUS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE CHAIR THROUGH THE CHAIR THROUGH THE CHAIR TO THE CHAIR. MADAM MAYOR DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE CITY WIDE PLATFORM OR KEEP IT STRICTLY TO OUR DISTRICT. MR. GALAN IS ASKING IF YOU WOULD LIKE ALL ACCESS OR JUST YOUR DISTRICT. MR. FISHMAN I'M SORRY I'M TRYING TO GO BACK AND THINK ABOUT THE POSTS THAT I'VE ALREADY DONE ON NEXT DOOR WHERE IT WAS WHERE I WAS LIMITED

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IN WHO I SENT IT TO AND WHETHER MY REACH WAS WHERE I WANTED IT TO BE. I'M OK WITH MY DISTRICT THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GALE AND WE KNOW YOUR OPINION. I WE'RE SITTING HERE TRYING TO DEBATE THAT AND I THINK BY MY HAVING ACCESS TO THE OTHER DISTRICTS IT MIGHT OPEN UP TO MORE SITUATIONS WHERE THE SUNSHINE LAW MIGHT COME INTO EFFECT SO I THINK I'D SAY I'LL STAY IN MY DISTRICT METROPOLITAN LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

OBVIOUSLY I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING. THIS BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT UP AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE BUILDING IT. IT HAD TO BE BUILT OUT FOR IT. IT'S TRUE CITYWIDE. THAT'S STILL IN THE BUILD OUT OF IT. DO YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO POST CITYWIDE I GET A TYPE OF POST AND THEN I CAN SELECT AN OPTION AND SEE CITY WIDE OR I CAN SAVE DISTRICT IT'S BEEN STRUCTURED SO THAT IT'S BROKEN UP BY DISTRICT FOR COMMISSIONER AND THEN CITYWIDE FOR THE MAYOR I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO ONE OR THE OTHER. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A THERE'S NO WAY OF SAYING IT DOESN'T EXIST OR IT WASN'T BUILT THAT WASN'T BUILT THAT WAY. WE CAN GO BACK AND SEE IF IT'S DOABLE. BECAUSE IF IT'S DOABLE THEN THE OPTION TO HAVE IT WOULDN'T HURT. LET'S SAY COMMISSIONER FISHMAN IS SPONSORING A EXPUNGEMENT AND SEALING WORKSHOP AND SHE WANTS TO POST THAT. THE MAYOR IS LIKE I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT SEALING EXPUNGING BUT SHE WANTS IT TO GO CITYWIDE THAN I THINK SHE SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO WHAT WAS CITYWIDE INSTEAD OF THE DISTRICT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE JUST YOU KNOW IT'S JUST DISTRICT RELATED LIKE POSTING SOMETHING ABOUT MY DISTRICT MEETING IS DISTRICT RELATED. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE CITY ACCESS IF IF I'M POSTING A FLYER REGARDING MY DISTRICT MEETING I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO GO CITYWIDE. BUT IF THERE WOULD BE AN OPTION TO CHOOSE EITHER CITY OR DISTRICT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT OPTION. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. BECAUSE HAVING A DEVELOPMENT ON WOODLAND IN THE WOODLANDS ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD DOESN'T JUST AFFECT DISTRICT 2 BUT IT AFFECTS DISTRICT 1 BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IS BEING POSTED SOMETHING LIKE YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE WHAT'S BEING I UNDERSTAND BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO NOT JUST SEE WHAT'S BEING POSTED. I WANT TO SEE YOU I'M SAYING. SO IT'S LIKE I DON'T I DON'T WANT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DISTRICT TO AFFECT DISTRICT 1 AND DISTRICT 1 RESIDENTS. I'VE BEEN ADAMANT I WON'T SAY WHETHER FOR OR AGAINST BUT THEY'VE BEEN VERY ADAMANT ABOUT THAT. AND SO WHATEVER HAPPENS ALONG COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD. IN SOMETHING AS SIMPLE OR COMPLEX AS THE STADIUM GOING INTO FORT LAUDERDALE POSSIBLY ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD. THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME ON THAT AND SO THAT COULD TRICKLE IN TO DISTRICT TO DISTRICT SO I THINK WE'D NEVER EXPLORED THAT OPTION BEFORE WE ASKED FOR CONSENSUS. SO I I WOULD I WOULD ASK THAT WITH THAT OPTION IF

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YOU CAN BUILD IT OUT. IF YOU CAN'T BUILD IT DOWN. I DON'T I DON'T CARE FOR CITYWIDE. I MEAN RESIDENTS LOVE ME ANYWAY. I DON'T CARE FOR CITYWIDE. YOU KNOW I'M HANDSOME. SO IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING YOU KNOW SO. SO IN THAT CASE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO POST THINGS AND THEN PEOPLE CITYWIDE SEE IT. I WANT MY DISTRICT TO SEE IT. BUT IF YOU IF IT CAN BE BUILT OUTWORK AND CHOOSE THE DIFFERENT OPTION I WOULD LIKE CITY. BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WANT WANT TO REACH ON A CITYWIDE AND NOBODY IS GOING TO POLITIC IN THAT SORT OF STUFF. SO I MEAN WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A DRAWBACK TO THAT IS JUST PUSHING OUT INFORMATION THAT BENEFITS THE CITY. AND AND THEN FINALLY LIKE I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO TO OUR BEAUTIFUL MAYOR AND SAY HEY CAN YOU POST THIS FOR ME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING TO GET SINCE I VIOLATION OR WHATEVER VIOLATIONS THEY ARE. I WANT TO SAY HEY HERE'S A FLYER POSTED FOR ME BECAUSE I WANT TO REACH CITYWIDE. AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T COME TO MY OFFICE HE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST RELEASE IT. SO. SO IF IT IF IT CAN BE BUILT OUT I THINK I THINK I WOULD WANT THAT. AND I THINK THAT WOULD CHANGE THE MINDS OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS SPOKE BECAUSE THEN IF YOU CAN POST WHETHER DISTRICT OR CITY WIDE. IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT WE BASICALLY I WOULD THINK THAT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY CITYWIDE AND SOME PROGRAM THAT ANY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE DOING THAT IS CITYWIDE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD MAKE ME AWARE OF AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD POST ON NEXT DOOR BECAUSE IT IS CITYWIDE AND NEEDS TO GO OUT FOR PEOPLE TO BE MINDFUL OF IT. AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WE HAVE STILL POSTED YOUR NEXT DOOR ALL OF THE MORE RECENTLY WE PUT ALL THE MEETINGS OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE. WE'VE EVEN SAID THAT OUR DISTRICT MEETINGS ARE NOT JUST SUBJECT TO THE DISTRICT IN WHICH YOU'RE IN. IN CASE YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TO A DISTRICT MEETING. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO SEE WHY THROUGH THE MAYOR'S ACCOUNT. JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL GOING TO BEGIN POSTING DOESN'T MEAN MY OFFICE IS GOING TO STOP. WELL THAT WAS THE NEXT THING. THIS DOES NOT STOP YOU FROM DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND GETTING INFORMATION OUT THERE ON OUR BEHALF. BUT I STILL THINK TO AVOID HAVING ANY KIND OF ISSUES WHICH I REALLY THINK THAT UNTIL WE PUT CERTAIN THINGS IN PRACTICE WE WON'T KNOW TO AVOID ANY KIND OF OVERLAPPING AND ACCIDENTAL COMMENTARY COMING THROUGH. BUT IF WE STAY WITHIN OUR DISTRICTS AND WE STAY WITHIN OUR OUR PLATFORM AND WE GOT THROUGH THERE THERE'S BEEN A CONSENSUS FOR THAT. I THINK IT IS NOW TIME TO MOVE OVER TO OUR NEXT UNLESS IT IS TO 15. WE HAVE. A DISCUSSION ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT NEXT DOOR FOR A MINUTE. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS. JOEL. SO I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO END THE CONVERSATION HERE BECAUSE I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS ON OKAY. WE'RE DONE WITH NEXT HOUR ON SOCIAL MEDIA QUESTIONS IN GENERAL. GO AHEAD. OK. SO SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY ABSENTEE POLICY. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A POLICY. WHAT'S THE BENEFIT. WHAT'S THE DISADVANTAGE. DO WE HAVE A POLICY. DO WE NEED ONE TO SPEAK TO THE POLICY AND I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A SOUND. THE CITY HAS A POLICY FOR EMPLOYEES BUT NOT FOR CITY COMMISSIONER. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. SO DO WE NEED ONE. WHAT WE DON'T NEED FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THE SUNSHINE LAW ON THE PUBLIC GRATITUDE LAW ARE GOING TO APPLY IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THE CITY HAS A POLICY. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE A UP FROM A BEST PRACTICES STANDPOINT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE A POLICY HOW YOU POLICE AND ENFORCE THAT POLICY AMONG THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD BE A DIFFERENT ISSUE. BUT AS ELISE INDICATED THERE IS ONE FOR STAFF GOES ON THE CITY'S USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA IN THEIR PERSONAL CAPACITY AND THE USE OF THE CITY'S OFFICIAL SOCIAL MEDIA. AND I BELIEVE THEIR POLICIES THAT ADDRESS BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES. AS A AS A COMMISSIONER RIGHT. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. MAKE A POST LET'S SAY ABOUT MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR. OR

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SMALL BUSINESS WEEK. YEAH I CAN DESIGN MY LITTLE FLYER AND I CAN PUT MY NAME ON IT.

BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOLER. HAVE THE CITY LOGO ON.

ARE WE ABLE TO DESIGN OUR FLYERS AND PUSH IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA IDG FACEBOOK IDG MEANING INSTAGRAM IF I DID YOU. INSTEAD I LOVE YOU. INSTAGRAM FACEBOOK MAKES FOR WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUT FLYERS. WELL I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUT FLYERS AND THERE'S SOMETIMES THOSE FLYERS I WANT TO USE THE LOGO SO TIME INTO MY QUESTION ABOUT THE POLICY. WHAT DO WE NEED. WOULD IT BE BEST IF WE HAVE A POLICY THAT TALKS ABOUT THE USE OF LOGO ON SOCIAL MEDIA GIVING US THE ABILITY TO USE THE LOGO AND FLYERS THAT WE INDIVIDUALLY PUSH OUT OR WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT WE DON'T REALLY MIND ABSENT A POLICY OR WHAT IT'S A MARRIED COUPLE OBSERVATIONS ONE THE CITY HAS A SEAL THE CITY ALSO HAS A LOGO. BOTH HAVE BEEN REGISTERED BOTH ARE PROTECTED BOTH ARE PROPRIETARY TO THE CITY. ABSENT A POLICY APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION THAT AUTHORIZES THE USE OF THE CITY SEAL OR THE CITY LOGO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR MEMBERS OF STAFF INDIVIDUALLY NOT USE THOSE INITIAL SO THEN WE COME BACK TO IF THERE WAS A POLICY IF THERE WAS A POLICY THAT PERMITTED IT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. RIGHT. SO DO YOU THINK THEN WE SHOULD EXPLORE HAVING A POLICY SO THAT YOU USE LOCAL BE GRANTED. I WOULD DEFER TO THE FIVE OF YOU I KNOW YOUR PATIENCE LEVEL IS AT A MINIMUM BUT COME ON ANYWAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM UNDERSTANDING YOUR REQUEST AND ALSO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR ANYTHING TO BE WRITTEN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT SO ARE YOU ASKING FOR A FULL FETTERED UN USE OF OUR LOGO. OR ARE YOU WANTING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PARAMETERS THAT WOULD KEEP US IN LINE WITH OUR CURRENT RULES AND REGULATIONS OF HOW OUR CITY USES THEM. ARE YOU ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC CHANGE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE PUT OUT THESE FLIERS BEFORE AND THERE'S SOMETHING IN YOUR ANSWER. MARTIN COMMISSIONER BOLTON QUITE HONESTLY I HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD THE ABILITY OF CHANGING SOME OF THE FLYERS FOR PERSONAL USE THAT CUTS OUT A COMMISSION BASED THING. AND I'VE THOUGHT IT'S BEEN VERY NARROW IN SCOPE AND BEEN MORE INDIVIDUAL VERSUS TEAM ORIENTED. SO WHILE THEY MAY LOOK FOR I'M NOT GOING TO DO THIS WITH YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON YOU'RE ASKING FOR A POLICY AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR SOME SPECIFIC PURPOSE IN MIND. AND SO BEFORE WE START DISCUSSING IT AND THEN HAVING IT COME BACK AROUND BECAUSE WE'VE MISSED A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO US AT THE BEGINNING I'M ASKING FOR ALL THE INFORMATION NOW. SO IF YOU ARE SUGGESTING BECAUSE I'M MAN ENOUGH TO SAYING IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE TIME AROUND AND HOW I DESIGNED MY OWN FLYER SENT I DIDN'T THINK THAT THE CITY WAS DOING A VERY GOOD JOB DESIGNING THAT FLYER AND SAYING OUT AND MAKING SURE THAT THE FESTIVAL WAS INDICATIVE OF HOW IT SHOULD BE. SO I CREATED MY OWN FLYER AND IT WAS WELL RECEIVED NOT ONLY BY STAFF BUT THE COMMUNITY. SO JUST TO BURY THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IF IF THERE IS A SPECIAL DAY OR SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING MARTIN LUTHER KING BLACK HISTORY MONTH CARIBBEAN

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THINGS THAT ARE PERSONAL AND CLOSE TO MY HEART AND I WANT TO MAKE THOSE POSTS ON FACEBOOK. I SHOULD NOT JUST BE ABLE TO USE MY NAME BUT YOU KNOW YOU USE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY LOGO. BUT YOU'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT POSTS VS. A FLYER. SO ARE YOU EXPANDING THIS. YOU SAID A POST THE FLYER IS THE POST. I'M JUST MAKING CERTAIN. IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR CERTAIN THINGS TO BE REVIEWED. RIGHT. AND THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE THING I CANNOT GIVE YOU A TRAINING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I KNOW THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT. I MEAN IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE KATHY WITH ME I'M NOT BEING CATTY. I'M TRYING TO ASK SO FOR A REASON I'M NOT BEING CATTY I'M ACTUALLY ASKING MR. BOLTON. OK. SO LET ME CLARIFY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE JUST ASKING WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A POSE. YOU'RE MAKING A POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA YOU'RE POSTING SOMETHING.

YEAH. YOU IF IF I'M IF I'M GOING TO POST SOMETHING IS EITHER GRAPHICS OR WORDS RIGHT I'M NOT GONNA POST THIS CITY LOGO IN WORDS. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT A CONDITION UPON WHICH YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND SOCIAL MEDIA AND OR I DO. BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE LIMITED AMOUNT THAT I KNOW HOW TO USE I KNOW I CAN ACTUALLY PUT UP AN IMAGE AND JUST POST A LOGO. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT YOUR REQUEST STARTED OUT AS A FLYER AND USE OF THIS CITY'S LOGO FOR THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO AND YOU WANT US TO HAVE A CONSENSUS ON IT. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO STAY WITH ME ON THE FLY APART THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRST. RIGHT. SO WHAT I MENTIONED BEFORE IS MY DEFINITION OF HOSTING THOSE FLY. THANK YOU. AND HOSTING THOSE THOSE WHOSE IMAGES THE FLYERS BLUE AND THE SMALL BUSINESS WEEK COMMISSIONER MARLIN BOLTON AND THE LOCAL JUST BELIEVE IT OR NOT MARLON. THERE ARE TIMES I ASK YOU QUESTIONS TO TRY TO PROTECT YOU NOT CHINA WHILE YOU UP. I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO DO THAT BUT ANYWAY SO BASICALLY LEE REMEMBERS. WELL THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM I CAN'T HELP WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE OR NOT THE VICE MAYOR. YOU'VE HEARD THE REQUESTS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF PLAN IN PLACE OR THE USE OF OUR LOGO INDIVIDUALIZE HER DISTRICT OR CITY OR FOR THE COMMISSION IN GENERAL ARE YOU INTERESTED IN ASKING OUR CITY ATTORNEY THE ATTORNEY TO COME UP WITH A ALSO. MEASURE EFFICIENT AND I HAVE TO SAY THE LANGUAGE I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE THE LA MICHIGAN. CITY ATTORNEY IF YOU WOULD. THERE IS AN INTEREST OF SEEING THE LANGUAGE NOT NECESSARILY DO. IS THERE AN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT THIS. BUT IF YOU WOULD COME UP WITH A POLICY FOR US TO LOOK AT AND REVIEW ON WHAT WOULD BE A SAFE USE IF WE WERE TO DO IT FOR INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION USE OF THE CITY LEVEL. THANK YOU. MUCH ON THE QUESTION ON SOCIAL MEDIA. CAN I FINISH. COMMISSIONER BOB MOULTON DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YES.

OK. SO ON SOCIAL MEDIA OF LONG ON MY PAGE A DISCLAIMER THAT SAYS PAGE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR TAMARACK DIRECT INQUIRIES. MARLIN ALTON AT TAMARA WARD THAT IS ON THE THING AND THAT IS SHARING BEST PRACTICES BECAUSE OF THE TRAININGS THAT I'VE GOTTEN THROUGH MY TRAVELS THROUGH THE LEAGUE AND MEETING OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT DO THE SAME WITH THESE VERY. DO YOU THINK THAT IS ENOUGH. I DON'T. HOST CITY WEBSITE. NO NOTHING LIKE THAT. MY PAGE IS A COMBINATION OF CHURCH FAMILIES OF MY CHILD HOLDING A PLANE ME STANDING IN A KITCHEN SAYING NOW TO IS COOKING. DIFFERENT THING. IT'S A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT THINGS. PJ DO SAY HE'S NOT ASSOCIATED THIS TIME RIGHT. DIRECT ALL INQUIRIES TOMORROWLAND DOUBLES. SO THAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT THINK IT'S EASY. DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE ASKING ME IF IF GIVEN THOSE

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FACTS YOU CAN BLOCK SOMEBODY OR IF THAT'S AN OFFICIAL PAGE. WELL I GUESS I GUESS I'D LIKE ALL CONTEXT TO THE QUESTION. DOES IT. DOES IT THEN CREATE THAT IS THEN MY PAGE SCENE AS A AS I'M USING IT FOR GOVERNOR MAYBE THEN I KNOW IT'S A BIT OF A FLIPPANT ANSWER BUT THE REALITY IS WHEN THE COURTS HAVE LOOKED AT THESE ISSUES THEY'VE LOOKED AT A VARIETY OF FACTORS NOT ANY ONE OF THEM WOULD BE ENOUGH BUT A TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND FACTORS AND THE MANNER IN WHICH THE PAGES USED MAY BE ENOUGH TO RISE TO THAT LEVEL WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC FORUM. IF YOU'RE USING IT TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS IF YOU'RE ENCOURAGING DIALOGUE BETWEEN AND AMONG YOUR CONSTITUENTS ON THE PAGE IF YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS A COMMISSIONER IF YOU HAVE YOUR PUBLIC E-MAIL ADDRESS ON THE PAGE. SIMPLY PUTTING A DISCLAIMER ON THERE MAY NOT LEGALLY BE ENOUGH TO EXEMPT YOU FROM THOSE REQUIREMENTS. AND SINCE YOU BRING BLOCKING I MEAN LISTEN I WILL BLOCK WHATEVER I WANT WHEN I WANT. AND THEY CAN SUE ME TO A THE TOPIC. COMMISSIONER GLEN YOU SAID THAT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD ALL HAVE ACCESS NEXT DOOR FOR OUR DISTRICT AND THE MAYOR FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. WHO MADE THAT DETERMINATION IN CONVERSATION WITH CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU JUST ONE OTHER COMMENT IF I MAY. YES. VERY QUICKLY AND THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW UP AND CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSIONER GALLON HAD ASKED EARLIER REGARDING WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT ONE THING. NOTHING IN THIS PROCESS IS INTENDED TO RESTRICT YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO SEE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR. THE ONLY CAVEAT I WOULD OFFER TO THAT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF ANY QUASI JUDICIAL ITEMS THAT YOU MAY BE CONSIDERING. UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN YOU'RE ACTING IN THAT QUASI JUDICIAL CAPACITY WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY A JUDICIAL BODY. YOU NEED TO BASE YOUR DECISIONS ON THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE SUBMITTED TO YOU AT A PUBLIC HEARING AFFORDING THE APPLICANT ALL NECESSARY DUE PROCESS RIGHTS. SO TAKING A POSITION ON A QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM WITHOUT HAVING HEARD THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE MAY INFRINGE UPON THE APPLICANT'S ABILITY TO GET A FAIR HEARING. SO I'LL JUST BE MINDFUL PARTICULARLY IN A QUASI JUDICIAL SETTING DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MATTER IS JUST TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW IT WHEN AND WHAT YOU POST IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT INFORMATION. THAT ASIDE THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT IS CURRENTLY TO 28 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. DO WE NEED A BREAK OR CAN WE MOVE ON SAYING THAT COMMISSIONER GOWAN IS ALREADY LEAVING THE TABLE. OBVIOUSLY HE'S GOT TO GO THE RESTROOM.

LET'S BE BACK HERE AT TWO FORTY PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. IT IS TWO FORTY TWO. WE ARE NOW

[6. Boards and Committees Discussion]

UP TO ITEM NUMBER SIX BOARDS AND COMMITTEES DISCUSSION WITH OUR CITY CLERK PATRICIA TO TO CALL ME A DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MAXINE KELLY AND PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR GREG WARNER. I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THESE COMMITTEES THAT I DID. I MEAN THE ONES THAT WE DO HAVE ON THE PLANNING BOARD HOUSING COMMITTEE PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE VETERANS AFFAIRS ARE INCLUDED IN THE BACK IN THE WORKSHOP. THIS COMMITTEE IS ONE OF THE WITNESSES THAT ADMINISTRATOR AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MAXINE. RIGHT TO GO OVER THE MAKEUP COMPOSITIONS AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE ALL RIGHT. SO BEFORE I BEGIN GREG WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT AS TO WHY WE'RE HERE THIS AFTERNOON FOR THE RECORD GREG WARNER OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND DURING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS THE COMMISSION AT A CONSENSUS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING OUR OUR ADVISORY BOARDS AND IN THE CITY. AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DISCUSS BOTH THE CURRENT BOARD STRUCTURE AND THEN THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING SOME NEW BOARDS. SO WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION THAT WE HOPE WILL OPEN UP THAT DISCUSSION FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO AS MENTIONED BY PAT THEY ARE THERE ARE FIVE FORMERLY ESTABLISHED BOARDS THREE OF WHICH ARE STAFFED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SO THE FIRST ONE OF COURSE IS A PLANNING BOARD. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR CHART IN YOUR BACKUP AND YOU'LL SEE THE APPOINTMENTS. THE NAME OF THE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE BOARD THE BOARD IS A REQUIRED BOARD REQUIRED MEANING THAT WE CAN'T WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT BOARD IS ESTABLISHED BY FLORIDA STATUTE 163 AS WELL AS OUR VERY OWN CODE OF ORDINANCES. I AM THE STAFF LIAISON SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT BOARD. THE BOARD HAS SEVEN MEMBERS FIVE REGULAR TWO ALTERNATES AND THE MEETINGS ARE HELD EVERY FIRST AND FOURTH WEDNESDAYS OF EACH MONTH BEGINNING AT 9 A.M.. NOW IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS

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SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BOARDS AND THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PLANNING BOARD. CURRENTLY THE PLANNING BOARD IS PRIMARILY A RECOMMENDING BODY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOUR TYPE OF APPLICATIONS WHERE THEY ARE THE FINAL DECISION MAKER BEFORE JULY 11TH OF LAST YEAR WHEN WE ADOPTED THE NEW CODE. THEY WERE THE DECISION MAKER ON TWO TYPES OF APPLICATIONS OR VARIANCE APPLICATION WHICH ARE DIMENSIONAL VARIANCES AS WELL AS ANY ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS AND THAT'S AN APPEAL OF THE DECISION THAT'S MADE ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL. SO IF I DON'T ISSUE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT OR ANYTHING THAT IS ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE MY DECISION CAN BE APPEALED DIRECTLY TO THE PLANNING BOARD. I CAN TELL YOU THAT HAS NOT REALLY HAPPENED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE BUT THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD THAT RESPONSIBILITY SINCE JULY 11TH OF LAST YEAR WE ADDED TWO MORE APPLICATIONS TO THEIR FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. AND THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AND MY MAJOR REVISED SITE PLANS BOTH OF WHICH CAN BE CALLED UP TO YOU. SO WE REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CHART IN YOUR BACKUP IT TELLS YOU ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY THE PLANNING BOARD HAS AND IT SHOWS ARE MEAN AND THEY'RE RECOMMENDING ON MOST OF THE APPLICATIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SPECIAL EXCEPTION WHICH IS CALLED UP TO YOU IF YOU SO CHOOSE AS WELL AS SIDE PLAN WHICH CAN BE CALLED UP AS WELL IF YOU SO DESIRE AND THEN VARIANCE AND APPEAL WHICH THEY'VE ALWAYS HAD AN NEXT REQUIRED BOARD IS YOU AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE BOARD THAT BOARD IS ESTABLISHED BY FLORIDA STATUTE FOR 20 AND ALSO OF CAUGHT UP ORDINANCES. THE BOARD IS COMPRISED OF EIGHT MEMBERS CURRENTLY ALTHOUGH THE FLORIDA STATUTE SAYS THE BOARD CAN HAVE UP TO ELEVEN MEMBERS. THE MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMARACK BUT THEY MUST BE INVOLVED IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING INDUSTRY. AND THE STATUTE OUTLINES IN WHAT AREAS THEY MUST BE INVOLVED. THE BOARD MEETS THREE TIMES A YEAR WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN. THAT'S OUR L HAVE AND THEY GIVE US INCENTIVE TYPE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF TYPE OF INCENTIVES THAT CAN BE PROVIDED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THOSE INCENTIVES AS WELL ARE LISTED IN FLORIDA STATUTE AND THE THERE ELEVEN INCENTIVES THE CITY OF TAMERA CURRENTLY HAS FOR WE PROVIDE FOR BUT ON A TRI ANNUAL BASIS THEY MEET AND THEY LOOK AT THOSE INCENTIVES AND DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT WE'D LIKE TO ADD OR REMOVE INCENTIVES FROM OUR LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IS THE LAST BOARD THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT STAFF IT'S ESTABLISHED BY OR COURT OF ORDINANCES MEMBERS ARE ON THE BOARD IT MEETS EVERY THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 430 AND THEY SERVE AS A PRIMARY RECOMMENDED BODY ALL THEIR DECISIONS ARE RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COMMISSION OR TO MYSELF IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BELOW THE THRESHOLD THAT CAN BE PURCHASED BY THE MANAGER THEN THEY'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND WE'LL FOLLOW THAT PROCEDURE AS ESTABLISH A PROCUREMENT CODE I'LL TURN IT OVER IF I MAY JUST ONE NOTE ITEM SNOWED ON THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE MEMBERS ROWENA SMITH HAS ALREADY BEEN SUBSTITUTED SANDRA HILL IS THERE AND THAT WAS COMMISSIONER GUILLEN'S APPOINTMENT IT WAS ALREADY CHANGED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES OKAY. NOW THE OTHER EXISTING BOARD THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND THAT IS ALSO ESTABLISHED IN THE CODE IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION SECTION THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD MEETS. THEIR MEETINGS ARE HELD ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 4:00 P.M. AND CURRENTLY THE MEMBERSHIP THERE'S FOUR MEMBERS CURRENTLY SEATED WITH ONE VACANCY FOR FIVE HIGH POSITIONS ON THE BOARD. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE IT CURRENTLY SITS THERE'S FIVE AVAILABLE POSITIONS ON ON THAT BOARD THE PURPOSE. THEY ARE TRULY AN ADVISORY BOARD. THEY SHOULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS CONCERNING RECREATION NEEDS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON EXISTING AND PROPOSED PROGRAMS AND SHORE UNDERTAKE ANY PROJECT ASSIGNED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. AND I DO WANT TO NOTE A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. JUST A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAVE MADE THAT WE WE ARE ACTING ON. ONE IS THE VETERANS PARK. YOU'LL SEE THIS IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET FOR THE CIPA IT'S SCHEDULED FOR NEXT YEAR OF VETERANS PARK.

THE RE RECONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING LOTS. THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION INITIATED OUT OF THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD AND IN LOOKING AT STAFF LOOKING AT IT IT SAW IT AS A DEFINITE NEED AND WE FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH THAT AND OTHER ON IT AND A PROGRAMMING SENSE DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL BUT IT IT HELPS HELPS US WITH ATTRACTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY GARAGE SALE AND THAT IS THE WE HOLD THEM THREE TIMES A YEAR. THE ONE WAS BEING HELD IN AUGUST AND WHEN IT'S STEAMING HOT OUT. SO RECOMMENDATION WAS TO BE TO PUSH THAT INTO THE FALL FURTHER. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT COOLER. AND THAT THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED WELL BY THE PARTICIPANTS IN THAT THAT

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EVENT. SO THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THAT HAVE COME OUT AND THERE'S MANY MORE. BUT THOSE ARE JUST TWO CONCRETE EXAMPLES I COULD SHARE WITH YOU. ANOTHER COMMITTEE IS THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE THAT PARKS AND RECREATION ALSO LIAISONS WITH AND THE ARMY. THIS IS ALSO ESTABLISHED BY THE CODE. MEETINGS ARE CURRENTLY HELD FOUR TIMES PER YEAR AND MARCH MAY SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 10:00 A.M. AND THE WITHIN THE CODE IT DESIGNATES THAT THE MEMBERSHIP CONSISTS OF A MINIMUM OF EIGHT MEMBERS AND CAN DOES NOT HAVE A TOP NUMBER FOR THAT. SO WHAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY TRUE WITH THIS ADVISORY BOARD IS WHEN PEOPLE DO APPLY THEY ARE APPOINTED. AND I BELIEVE AT ONE POINT WHEN WHEN IT WAS REALLY THRIVING THERE WERE ABOUT 18 MEMBERS ON THAT ON THAT ADVISORY BOARD. CURRENTLY WE HAVE EIGHT MEMBERS SEATED THE EIGHT APPOINTED MEMBERS SEATED. BUT WE DO ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER COMMUNITY PARTICIPANTS THAT COME IN OTHER VETERANS COME TO THOSE MEETINGS ON A CONSISTENT BASIS AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE AT THE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY AND YOU'LL SEE THEM LISTED ON THE PROGRAM AS CONTRIBUTED CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS THEY HAVE THEY HAVE APPLIED TO BE FORMALLY APPOINTED. WE HAVE NOT DONE APPOINTMENTS TO THAT BOARD IN A WHILE. SO WE DO HAVE STUDENT DO YOU STILL HAVE PARTICIPATION ON THAT. AND THE PURPOSE WITH WITH THIS COMMITTEE PROMOTE AND FACILITATE AMONG VETERANS OF THE RIGHTS BENEFITS AND ANY OTHER SPECIAL NEEDS PROMOTE PROGRAMS TO DESIGN OR PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE ROLE OF VETERANS IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. THEY DO.

THEY PARTICIPATE IN BOTH MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY CEREMONIES. THEY HAVE THEY ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING OF THOSE THOSE EVENTS. THEY PROVIDE INPUT ON ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES WE CAN MAKE. AND THEY ALSO PLAYED A KEY ROLE WITH THE VETERANS ON OUR WALL AS FAR AS PROVIDING PROVIDING INPUT AND SUPPORT FOR THAT SO THOSE ARE THE CITIES EXISTING COMMITTEES THAT MAXINE AND I JUST JUST WENT OVER THE OTHER OTHER COMPONENT DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING THAT WAS WAS SPOKEN ABOUT WHERE THERE WERE SOME SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE FROM THE COMMISSION AS TO SOME ADVISORY BOARDS THAT YOU ALL FELT WERE IMPORTANT. I LISTED THESE THREE OUT JUST FOUR FOR DISCUSSION A YOUTH COUNCIL MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR DAY COMMITTEE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND THEN A MULTICULTURAL DIVERSITY COMMITTEE WHICH WHICH CAN BE TERMED A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT THE PURPOSE IS IS THE SAME.

AND IN MANY OF THE CITIES AND JUST SOME SOME BRIEF INFORMATION ON THE YOUTH COUNCIL STAFF HAS CONDUCTED SOME RESEARCH AND LOOKED AT SOME OTHER PROGRAMS WITHIN SOME OTHER CITIES. AND I WANTED TO KNOW FOR YOU WHAT WHAT THE CITY ALREADY DOES WITH WITH THIS AGE GROUP. WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE A TEEN CLUB AND THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 25 MEMBERS OF THAT TEEN CLUB AND THEY HAVE OPERATED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOT OF DIFFERENT CAPACITIES BASED ON WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE. BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST YOU'LL SEE THEM OUT VOLUNTEERING AT ALL OF OUR EVENTS. THEY DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. THEY GATHER AND TALK ABOUT TEEN ISSUES THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WITH STAFF AND THEN THEY THEY ALSO ON SITE AS I SAID BASED ON NEED. WHEN WE WE'VE USED THEM IN PLANNING PLAYGROUNDS AND IN PLANNING PARKS THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH THAT GROUP AND USE THEM AS A AS A YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD IN THAT IN THAT CAPACITY LEADERSHIP CAMERA ACT THAT THAT HAS BECOME AN ANNUAL THING IN THE CITY. AS YOU KNOW ENGAGES THE LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT GOVERNMENT ABOUT MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. THEY PROTECT HER TAKE AND I BELIEVE A SIX WEEK PROGRAM CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT FORMATION AND THEY FINISH THAT UP WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF DEVELOPING THEIR OWN PARK. THEY'RE GIVEN A BUDGET. THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROJECT. SO THEY REALLY LEARN A LOT ABOUT A LOT ABOUT HOW GOVERNMENT OPERATES AND THEN TEEN PARTICIPATION IN THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. WE HAD ACTUALLY PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION BRINGING THIS UP WE HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THIS ACTUALLY THROUGH CAME UP THROUGH THE EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVE WITHIN THE CITY. SO I STARTED PURSUING THIS AND SPOKE TO BOTH THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION FOUNDATION ABOUT BRINGING SOME TEENS ONTO THOSE THOSE TWO BOARDS. AND IN THE MEANTIME CAME UP THAT THE COMMISSION WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE YOUTH COUNCIL. SO WE WE HAVE NOT PURSUED THAT ANY FURTHER BUT WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH

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SOME OF THE GUIDANCE COUNSELORS AT THE SCHOOLS ABOUT ABOUT THAT PROVIDING SOME POTENTIAL COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS FOR THE OTHER THING AND THE MULTICULTURAL DIVERSITY COMMITTEE AGAIN. STAFF LOOKED AT SOME OTHER CITIES WITHIN BROWARD COUNTY THAT DO HAVE THIS TYPE OF COMMITTEE AND WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING. ONE OF THE COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS EVENT SPECIFIC IS THE ONE TAMARACK MULTICULTURAL PLANNING PLANNING COMMITTEE. SO WE HAVE HAD THAT BUT NOTHING NOTHING FURTHER. AND WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION WITH THIS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY PLANNING PLANNING EVENT COMMITTEE AND TALKED ABOUT SOME OTHER OTHER EVENT PLANNING COMMITTEES BUT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF WE PURSUE DEVELOPING THIS. THIS COMMITTEE IS THAT WE DEVELOPED THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR ONE MULTICULTURAL DIVERSITY COMMITTEE AND INCLUDE IN THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES PROVIDING INPUT AND HELPING TO PLAN WHEN THOSE THOSE CULTURAL EVENTS AND AS I SAID OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION. BUT NEXT STEPS IF THE COMMISSION DETERMINES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CREATE SOME NEW BOARDS IT WOULD BE DEVELOPMENT OF OF WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THOSE BOARDS WOULD BE THE LOGISTICS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND THEN AN ORDINANCE WOULD NEED TO BE CREATED TO CREATE THESE BOARDS NEED TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AND THE TWO READINGS FOR APPROVAL AND THEN THE COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS. SO WITH THAT WOULD OPEN UP TO DISCUSSION QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION.

MR. FISHMAN THANK YOU DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING. I BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE I AS.

PRIOR TO BECOMING A COMMISSIONER I SERVED ON A COUPLE OF THE BOARDS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN OUR RESIDENTS VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME THAT THEY COULD BE SPENDING WITH FAMILY OR FRIENDS THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF IT AND DOING SOMETHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY. THE NOT NECESSARILY THAT THE COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY DON'T DO THAT BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE AND THE YOUTH COUNCIL WAS ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LARGE POPULATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR CITY AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY FEEL THAT THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO HELP OR THAT THEY'RE BEING ASKED WHAT THEIR OPINION IS. I THINK THAT IF WE ASK THEM TO PARTICIPATE ESPECIALLY IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH LEADERSHIP TAMARACK AND HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME FANTASTIC IDEAS. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT ACTIVITY HAPPEN AND I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO FORMALIZE OUR EDUCATION STAKEHOLDER GROUP. THEY'VE BEEN COMING UP WITH SOME REALLY GREAT IDEAS AS WELL ON HOW TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION OF ARTS OF OUR STUDENTS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. AND THOSE ARE TWO THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE. AND AS FAR AS A MULTICULTURAL I AGREE THAT ONE COMMITTEE COULD DO THE PLANNING OF NUMEROUS EVENTS BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE DIVERSITY WHEN WE GO INTO THAT COMMITTEE.

IT'S NOT ONLY CULTURAL DIVERSITY A IT'S SEXUAL DIVERSITY ADDS IT'S ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF DIVERSITY. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR DIVERSITY WE LOOKING AT ALL. I MEAN JUST TO ADDRESS THAT COMMISSIONER THE ONE THING AND I STOLE THIS FROM CORAL SPRINGS AND THEY HAVE A MULTICULTURAL ADVISORY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ONE OF THE. IN THEIR MISSION STATEMENT ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES TO PROMOTE APPRECIATION ACCEPTANCE AND RESPECT FOR ALL THE CULTURAL DIFFERENCES AND SIMILARITIES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU THERE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOLTON. IF YOU'RE NOT I'M JUST FLIP IT OVER.

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SHOULD GO ON ON THE ISSUES ON THE ONE TIME RIGHT. I THINK MANY THIS THIS PAST YEAR WE HAD SANDRA BERNHARD BASHING FROM CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL. WE HAD BARBARA TURNOFF. WE HAD PHIL PRENTICE. I'M SORRY AND BOB YOU HAVE HAVING A MENTAL BLOCK. WE'LL MEET. WHO MADE THE SELECTION OF THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WE. WE HAD AN ORIGINAL COMMITTEE THE FIRST YEAR AND WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AGAIN. AND FROM THAT THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ACCEPTED THE INVITATION CAME BACK MAXINE. HAVE WE VERIFY THE RESIDENCY OF THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBER.

AND THAT LAST PLANNING BOARD MEETING. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FORMALLY DOING THAT HE DOES LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMARACK AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HE HAS STATED. BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING HIM FURNISH INFORMATION. HE HASN'T PROVIDED ANYTHING YET. NOT YET. FOR PATERSON BUT FOR THE ADDITIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES DISCUSSED AS STRATEGIC PLANNING. CAN WE ADD AN EDUCATION COMMITTEE TO THIS LIST AND CITIZENS POLICE REVIEW BOARD COMMITTEE IS UP FOR DISCUSSION AMONGST US FIRST. MM HMM. OR PROCESSES YOU REPEAT THEM. OH. EDUCATION COMMITTEE AND CITIZENS POLICE REVIEW BOARD. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S SEVERAL WAS AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS OF THE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD WHOSE TERM OF EXPIRED THEY SERVE UNTIL AN APPOINTMENT IS MADE. AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION YOU HAD BEFORE SO WE'RE JUST WAITING ON MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO SUBMIT YOUR NEEDS FOR THOSE APPOINTMENTS SO THEY CONTINUE TO SERVE UNTIL A REAPPOINTMENT IS MADE TO THE SCIENCES. YES YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT TAMARACK TO BE IN THE PARK SOMEWHERE CORRECT. WELL THE ONLY BOARD WHERE YOU GOING TO BE A RESIDENT IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE. THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE YOU CAN HAVE A PUBLIC ART BUSINESS SOME TYPE OF BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF TAMARACK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY RESIDE HERE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO LIVE IN THE CITY. YOU JUST MUST POSSESS SOME INVOLVEMENT WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO HAVE VICE MAYOR THANK YOU. I HAVE NOT MADE ANY NEW APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE I WAS WAITING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TO SEE WHERE IT WENT AND IF WE CHANGED ANYTHING ON COMMITTEES OR ADDED COMMITTEES OR REDUCED COMMITTEE. SO FIRST OF ALL THE MULTICULTURAL COMMITTEE YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE FINAL NAME OR WHAT IT WORKS BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I THINK INITIALLY WHEN IT STARTED IT WAS KIND OF A ONE TIME THING WE WEREN'T SURE WHERE IT'S GOING. BUT I THINK NOW THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND ON THAT. I THINK IF WE REACH OUT IN A WAY TO RESIDENTS I THINK WE WILL HAVE A BROADER GROUP AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE YOU HAD ON THERE WERE REALLY EXCELLENT ABOUT GOING OUT AND AND GETTING DOLLARS. YES THE ONE NAME I DID WE HAVE AUTHOR JUDITH CROCKER WHO WAS ABSENT OR WRITE US. SO YOU HAVE SOME REALLY DEDICATED PEOPLE TO THAT. SO I HOPE WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM AND AND MAYBE LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE A PERMANENT COMMITTEE AT LEAST IN MY MIND.

THAT'S MY OPINION. IF WE GO BACK AS I SAY I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING YET WITH MY COMMITTEES BECAUSE. THE PLANNING BOARD WE HAVE TWO ISSUES HERE THAT WE NEED TO CALL THEM BACK I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS CHANGING THAT DECISION AND SEE HOW MY COLLEAGUES FEEL ABOUT THAT. SO THAT'S THAT. AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ALL OF THESE MEMBERS

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TERMS GO TO 20 20. IS THAT MANDATED. YES THAT'S FINE RESOLUTION. THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE I KNOW WE HAVE SOMEBODY NEW FROM DISTRICT 2. SO WE HAVE. SO IT WILL BE THE MAYOR AND I. OK. CAN THE PARKS AND REC ADVISE THE BE ADVISORY BOARD BE ROLLED INTO THE MULTICULTURAL OR VICE VERSA. IS THERE'S A POSSIBILITY AND I'VE SEEN OTHER AREAS WHERE THEY DO SUBCOMMITTEES OF THE OF THE LARGER COMMITTEE. SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A DECISION OF THE OF THE COMMISSION BUT YOU DO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS UPON WHAT YOU WHAT YOU SEE AS THAT COMMITTEE'S ROLE. BECAUSE IN MY MIND A MULTICULTURAL COMMITTEE WOULD NOT JUST BE AN EVENT COMMITTEE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BRINGING THE BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER HAVING IDEAS FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AS WELL. SO YOUR OPINION IS TO KEEP TWO SEPARATE COMMITTEES AND IN MY MIND. BUT AGAIN IT WOULD BE WHAT THE COMMISSION SEES THAT COMMITTEE THAT COMMITTEE'S ROLE. ALL RIGHT. UM VETERANS AFFAIRS AS FAR AS OUR I'LL CALL IT YOUTH COUNCIL FOR LACK OF PICKING ONE. I THINK IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE YOUTH INVOLVED IN WHATEVER WAY. I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME YOUNG VOLUNTEERS AND WE SEE THEM AT EVENTS AND THAT'S GREAT. THAT WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO DRAW THEM OUT TO GET THEM INVOLVED IN THIS I'M DEFINITELY FOR THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR THE MONEY. COMMISSIONER BOLTON OK SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR THIS DISCUSSION. ARE WE TRYING TO GET RID OF BOARDS OR ADD SOME OR REVAMP. WHAT ARE WE DOING. WELL I CAN ASK MY QUESTIONS THEN YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT. NOT IF YOU LIKE THERE'S A BUNCH OF STUFF ON THE TABLE.

THERE'S QUESTIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO REVAMP THEM WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SOME THAT PLAY A ROLE. AND THERE WERE REQUESTS THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING ON WHETHER OR NOT WE NEEDED TO ADD OR AUGMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO TO GET TO THE PART WHERE WE DELETE THEM. ADD IN YOU KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT LIKE BOYS AND THEN BECAUSE THERE SOME BOYS I WANT TO GET RID OF. AND THERE ARE SOME BOARDS THAT AND PLEASE TELL US YOUR OPINIONS. SO WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS LIKE RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THE BOARDS AND APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE SOME OF THE BOARDS I'M HEARING ABOUT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THEM BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE RECRUIT. YOU KNOW LIKE THE HOUSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD. DO I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT FOR THAT. DO YOU RECRUIT. YOU DO. AND THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED GIVE STAFF THE ABILITY TO SOLICIT BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE STATUTE AND THEY HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INDUSTRY. WE BRING THOSE NAMES FORWARD AND WE'LL BE DO YOUR POINT THEM FORMALLY. RESOLUTION WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS SOMETHING LIKE BUT I WANT TO CHANGE WHAT ABOUT VETERANS COMING INTO THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE WE WOULD PUBLICIZE IT. IT'S PUBLICIZED DURING THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS WHEN THAT THOSE VACANCIES ARE OPEN OR WHEN APPOINTMENTS ARE COMING UP THEY'RE PROMOTED WITH THE WITH THE OTHER ADVISORY BOARD OPENINGS. WE ALSO AS A AS A COMMITTEE WE WE SEND IT OUT TO THE EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS TO LET ANYBODY THAT THEY KNOW THEY'RE TIED WITH IT THAT THEY CAN GET THE WORD OUT TO AS WELL. RIGHT.

AND SO HOW DO I MAKE APPOINTMENTS UPWARD. I CAN SAY WITH THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE THOSE APPOINTMENTS ARE DONE BY THE ENTIRE COMMISSION NOT NECESSARILY BY

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DISTRICT. BECAUSE BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY MUCH UNLIMITED SO WE'RE NOT LIMITED ON THE NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS. BUT IF YOU CAN JUST SEE WHO THIS PERSON IS I THINK WOULD BE GREAT. AND ONCE THEY MEET THE CRITERIA THEY'RE ON THE BOARD. AS LONG AS THEY APPLY IN THE REST THE COMMISSION AGREES WITH THAT. YES. SO THEN. SO THAT'S THE THING. I'VE NEVER. I DON'T REMEMBER VOTING ON SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN OFFICE. WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY APPOINTMENTS FOR THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. OK. SO WHEN THIS IS THE NEXT TIME THIS ROUND OF APPOINTMENTS THIS ROUND OF OTHER APPLICANTS THAT WE HAD THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE WAS WITHIN WITHIN THIS ROUND. RIGHT. I NEVER KNEW THAT IF I MAY ON THIS I ALWAYS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THERE WAS A VETERAN WHO WANTED TO BE ON THE BOARD THEY WERE ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND BE ABLE TO BE ON IT. I KNOW THAT'S HOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE GOT ON THE COMMITTEE IN THE PAST. YEAH. THEY'RE VETERANS THEY LIVE IN OUR CITY. THEY HAD THEIR HONORABLE DISCHARGE PAPERS AND THEY JUST JOINED THE BOARD.

THEY MAY BE CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS BUT THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FORMALLY. THEY NEED TO BE FORMALLY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND WE HAD AND HONESTLY WE HAVE NOT DONE APPOINTMENTS TO THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE FOR A LONG TIME. PAT AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING. WE WERE WAITING ON DOING A CHANGE IN THE CODE THE CURRENT CODE STATES FOR MEMBERSHIP THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY MUST HAVE BELONGED TO. THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE SLOWLY BECOMING DEFUNCT. I DIDN'T MEAN THE AMERICAN LEGION IS STILL AROUND BUT THE VETERANS REFORM OF FOREIGN WAR THOSE TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT AS PROMINENT ANYMORE. SO THE ORIGINAL THE CODE THE WAY THAT IT DESCRIBED IT DESCRIBES IT RIGHT NOW IS NOT REALLY APPLICABLE ANYMORE. SO THE CODE CHANGE WHICH WOULD BE A SIMPLE SIMPLE CODE CHANGE WOULD BE JUST HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERANS RESIDING IN THE CITY OF TAMARACK BUT BUT AGAIN THAT THOSE APPOINTMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE FOR I AM NEITHER UNSURE OF THE LAST TIME IT HAS TO BE A GOOD SIX OR SEVEN YEARS AGO EVEN FOR I YEAH WE WERE ALSO TALKING ABOUT MAKING THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD INSTEAD OF ON A YEARLY BASIS MAKING IT ON A PERMANENT BASIS FOR THE VETERANS AFFAIRS FOR THE VETERANS JUST FOR THE VETERANS AFFAIRS. SO BASICALLY ON THIS ONE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IF WE CAN AT LEAST GET ONE OF THESE ITEMS OFF THE TABLE WILL MOVE THROUGH OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL YOU REWRITE WHATEVER ORDINANCE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO WE CAN GET OUR VETERANS AFFAIRS WARD UP AND RUNNING WITH MORE PEOPLE ON IT THAT'S A GOOD SENSE THE COMMISSION WE'RE HAPPY WORK WITH THAT PARADOX HOW MANY ON THE BOARD DOWN THERE WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY EIGHT APPOINTED MEMBERS AND THEN THERE'S THREE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT COME ON A CONSISTENT BASIS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION IN THERE FOR MORE THAN SIX YEARS AND NOBODY ON THIS BOARD VOTING FOR THEM OR PROVEN CORRECT AGAIN. MAXINE IT SAID SINCE SINCE APPOINTMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE IN THEIR TERMS THEY GO UNTIL APPOINTMENTS REPLACEMENTS OR OTHER APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE. SO THERE'S NO TERM LIMITS ON. WELL THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO OFFICIALLY MAKE CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEN HAVE THEIR TERMS YEAH. MAYOR I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FURTHER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH APPOINTMENTS RIGHT NOW IN CONJUNCTION WITH MAKING A CODE CHANGE JUST VERY BRIEFLY IF I MAY A COUPLE OBSERVATIONS HAVING LOOKED AT THE CODE WHICH I'M IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING AS WE SPEAK SEVERAL STEP PROCESS OUR CODE CURRENTLY PROVIDES FOR A COMPOSITION. AND AS GREG INDICATED A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE CODE AS TO HAVE REPRESENTED OUR REPRESENTATIVES ON THAT BOARD MEMBERSHIP THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE SHALL CONTAIN AT LEAST ONE MEMBER FROM EACH OF THE FOLLOWING SEVERAL AMERICAN VETERANS THE AMERICAN LEGION JEWISH WAR VETERANS USA AND VETS. MILITARY ORDER OF THE PURPLE HEART AMERICAN EX PRISONERS OF WAR AND THE MARINE CORPS LEAGUE ALL MEMBERS WHO'VE SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMED FORCES MUST HAVE RECEIVED AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE. THOSE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CONTEXT OF COMPOSITION. IF THE BOARD WANTED TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS CURRENTLY WE'D BE CONFINED WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT THE CODE

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CURRENTLY SAYS. IF THE OBJECTIVE IS TO OPEN UP THE MEMBERSHIP TO ANY CITY RESIDENT WHO IS AN HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERAN WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT AMENDMENT AND PROVIDE FOR THE SAME NUMBER OF MEMBERS. WE HAD SEVEN OR NINE OR 11 SOME OF MY NUMBER. WE CAN ESSENTIALLY STRIKE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AND PROVIDE A MORE BROADER POOL OF VETERANS SO LONG AS THEY'VE RECEIVED AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE AND BE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE. THANK YOU MR. FISHMAN DO YOU AGREE. YES I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE ORGANIZATIONS REMOVED. OPEN IT UP TO ANY HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERAN AND I DON'T SEE IT BEING A PROBLEM FOR THEM TO HAVE FURTHER TERM AND IN THE COMMITTEE TO BE FOR AS LONG AS THEY'D LIKE TO BE BECAUSE WE'RE THE WAY THE CODE IS AS WE HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF SEVEN BUT A MINIMUM OF EIGHT RESIDES. AND THEN THERE'S NO MAXIMUM. CORRECT. AND JACOB WITH WITH THAT THE WAY THAT'S DESCRIBED THE COMMISSION. TELL ME IF I'M CORRECT THE COMMISSION WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE THAT THOSE ARE E I WOULD SAY AT LEAST THAT THEY NEED THOSE AID ORGANIZATIONS. SO BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE NOT LIMITED THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE CURRENT APPOINTMENTS THAT NOTHING TO THE BOARD SHALL CONSIST OF EIGHT OR MORE MEMBERS APPOINTED ANNUALLY BY THE COMMISSION TO SERVE ONE YEAR TERMS WHETHER PLEASURE COMMISSION WITHOUT COMPENSATION SHALL CONTAIN AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE FOLLOWING AND IF WE'RE MOVING IT TO MAKE IT PERMANENT OR SERVICE INSTEAD OF HAVING IT ROTATE EVERY YEAR WE TRY WILL WE BE TYING TO THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN TAMARA FOR THAT TERM. IF IT'S PERMANENT FOR AS LONG AS YOU LIVE HERE YES YES. OF COURSE YOU CAN. WELL ACTUALLY WE'RE STILL STAYING. ARE YOU SOME VETERANS. BECAUSE IF NOT. COMMISSIONER BOLTON ACTUALLY STILL HAS A FLOOR. AND YOU'RE DONE. COMMISSIONER SHIN BET YOU HAVE A QUESTION IS IT ONLY ON VETERANS OR IS IT RIGHT. YEAH I THOUGHT SO. SO I UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT LANGUAGE TO ALL OF THE EIGHT MEMBERS HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF ONE OF THOSE LISTED GROUPS OR JUST ONE OF THOSE EIGHT MEMBERS AT LEAST ONE AT THE MEMBERSHIP SHALL CONTAIN AT LEAST ONE MEMBER FROM EACH OF THE SO THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM OF EIGHT FOR THE BOARD SHALL CONSIST OF EIGHT OR MORE MEMBERS WHEN AN ANNUALLY BY THE COMMISSION ON AT LEAST ONE FROM EACH OF THE BE MORE THAN EIGHT. RIGHT. BUT AT LEAST ONE OF EACH OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED.

OK. SO AS LONG AS ONE PERSON IS A MEMBER OF ONE OF THOSE RIGHT THERE'S NOT A LIST.

OK. SO NOT NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OF AN UNLIMITED TERM BUT I'M ALSO NOT IN FAVOR OF APPOINTING EVERY YEAR. SO MAYBE THEY SHOULD SERVE SERVE EVERY FOUR YEARS OR EVERY TIME A NEW COMMISSIONER IS ELECTED THEY MAKE THEIR APPOINTMENT AND THEN THAT COMMISSIONER CAN ALSO ALLOW THEM TO STAY ON THE BOARD BUT I'M SURE I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE AN UNLIMITED BOARD EITHER LIKE WE WANT TO HAVE 50 PEOPLE WALK AT 50 NOT TO BRING BACK AN ISSUE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER I'D START OFF WITH THE COUNTY NOT MEMBERS OF THESE BOARDS ARE ALSO SOMETIMES IT'S THE SAME RULES AND RESTRICTIONS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN THE CONTEXT SOCIAL MEDIA ALSO BY A NUMBER OF THE ABOUT IS THERE A REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS IF IT SAYS IN THERE WE SHOULD BE APPOINTING SOMEONE EVERY YEAR I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WE DO. BUT I THINK THAT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION IS IT NOT. I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY TRIED ANSWERING THAT QUESTION AND IT'S ONE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN ANSWER. SO LET'S JUST MOVE ON BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIX BY SUMMER. ARE YOU FOR CHANGING THE VETERANS AFFAIRS.

YES. MR. BOLTON CHANGING HOW TAKING UP THE ORGANIZATION'S CHANGING TERM LIMITS ABILITY FOR COMMISSION MEMBERS TO APPOINT ABOUT WHICH AS DISCUSSED AS A CONCURRENT WITH A COMMISSION TERM IS IT ONE YEAR LIKE THAT. THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN TO GET RID OF THE INDIVIDUAL BOARDS OR AID ORGANIZATIONS AND SERVICES TO REMOVE THAT HAVE THEM BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF TAMARACK HONORABLY DISCHARGED. AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY DISCUSSED FOR A PERMANENT POSITION ON THE BOARD UNTIL THAT TIME THEY'RE ARE NO LONGER LIVING IN TAMARA AND I'M OK I'M UP FOR THE PERMANENT PART I'M

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FOR LIKE CONSISTENT WITH THE PERMISSION TERM AND EACH COMMISSIONER HAVING THE ABILITY POINT. SO AT THIS TIME WE HAVE I WON'T THROW THE WRENCH INTO THE MIX.

BASICALLY I WAS FINE WITH THE PERMANENCY BUT IF IT'LL BE SATISFACTORY TO BE CONCURRENT WITH EACH COMMISSIONER IN THE MAYOR'S TERMS AND THAT IS FINE. AND IF IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS A MINIMUM OF EIGHT AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE EACH OF US TO GET TO A POINT TO NOW MY QUESTION BECOMES THEN IF WE DO IT THAT WAY. WHAT HAPPENS IF IN A PARTICULAR DISTRICT YOU DO NOT HAVE TWO MEMBERS WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT WHO ARE HONORABLY DISCHARGED WHO WANT TO SERVE. I MEAN THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING ON THIS ESPECIALLY THE VETERANS COMMITTEE WHO WANT TO SERVE ON THE BOARD. SO WOULD IT BE A FIRST RUN FOR TRYING TO GET TO 2 2 AND DO SO TO SPEAK. THAT'S 10. I DID MY MATH ON THEN I DID YES. SURE. ALSO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO KIND OF WRAP IT INTO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THEN. WHEN YOU YOUR YOUR LITTLE LIAISON YOU'RE THE STAFF LIAISON PERSON FOR THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. YES. WHAT DO YOU SEE IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS AN EFFECTIVE. MANY I THINK BASED ON BASED ON HISTORY AND IN WANTING THE MOST PARTICIPATION THAT WE CAN GET WITH THOSE COMMITTEES AND HISTORICALLY THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHY NO MAXIMUM NUMBER WAS SET. WE WANTED AS MUCH INVOLVEMENT FROM THE VETERANS AS POSSIBLE. I. IT IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT THAT WAY TO RUN WITH COMMISSION CONCURRENT WITH COMMISSION TERMS BECAUSE IF SO SAY IF WE DO GET 15 APPLICANTS AND EIGHT OF THOSE AFRICANS ARE FROM DISTRICT 1 AND 2 OR FROM DISTRICT 2 THERE'S NO NONE FROM DISTRICT 3 AND SO ON. HOW HOW DOES THAT WORK. I. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT YOU DO A YOU DO A SET TERM WHETHER IT BE FOR FOUR YEARS FIVE YEARS SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT PERMANENT BUT IT DOES GIVE A GOOD REPRESENTATION. AND YOU DO GET TO MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS AS AS A AS A BOARD. OK. SO AS WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION THAT WE DO WANT SOME CHANGES WE DO WANT THERE TO BE SOME CONCURRENCY AND NOT A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO MOVE THIS CONVERSATION ALONG SINCE UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS SO PRESSING SO DIFFERENT. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM I. GO AHEAD. SO AS I STATED EARLIER WE DON'T JUST SERVE OUR DISTRICT WE SERVE THE ENTIRE CITY. SO IF WE DON'T FIND SOMEONE WITHIN OUR DISTRICT THEN WE SHOULD JUST HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELECT SOMEONE THAT JUST LIVES IN THE CITY TOMORROW.

YES. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO BASICALLY PLEASE PUT FORTH THE BEST PLAN THAT YOU NEED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW AND COME BACK THAT SERVES THE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE OBVIOUSLY ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE WE PROBABLY WILL NOT HAVE TO TWO TWO AND TWO AND THEN ADD ANOTHER TWO. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON YOU ARE ON THE TABLE WITH YOU STARTED WITH VETERANS. WE START WE WANT TO GET OFF WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE FOR JUST. WELL YOU HAD TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD THE FLOOR SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD IF NOT THERE'S MORE CONVERSATION SYLVIA. SO OK SO WE'RE FINISHED. WE WERE ABLE TO GET RID OF ONE FOR NOW. YOU WANT ME TO START ON THE OTHER ONE IF THERE'S STILL SOME COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE FED. SO IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS YOU WISH TO MAKE THEM PLEASE MAKE THEM NO GO WHATEVER COMMENTS YOU WISH TO BE MAKING YOU WANT. YOU HAD THE FLOOR TO MAKE COMMENTS IF YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR OTHER COMMENTS ARE SAID AND WE START PICKING THEM APART THAT'S FINE. JUST TRYING TO MOVE THIS CONVERSATION. I'M TRYING NOT TO BE COMBATIVE FROM HAVING A MONTH OF FASTING. I HAVE TO BE HOLY. SO LET'S JUST SAY I'M MUCH I'M JUST TRYING TO. SO THEN IF YOU SO THEN WHICH ONE DO WE WANT TO MOVE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE MY COMMENTS INSTEAD OF START PICKING APART THEM FOR RIGHT NOW IF YOU DON'T MIND THEN IF YOU HAVE NOTHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU WANT TO EXPRESS ABOUT EACH OF THE COMMITTEES THEN I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD TO START PULLING IT APART. ALL RIGHT. AS YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKING TO HAVE THIS REVIEW FOR

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A WHILE AND IT HAS BOILED DOWN TO ADDING AND CHANGING. I DO THINK THE PLANNING AND ZONING WE HAVE GIVEN THEM ENORMOUS POWER WHICH IS NOT A PROBLEM. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF OUR CURRENT MAKEUP OR FUTURE MAKEUP THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE SUFFICIENT IN PLACE. PERSONALLY I DO NOT THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU SERVE ON AN ASSOCIATION THAT YOU ARE WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WE NEED TO ASSIST IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH SITE PLANNING ISSUES AND SPECIAL EXEMPTIONS VARIANCES AND APPEALS I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T LEARN THEM BUT WE'RE IN A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN ONE OF THE REASONS WE MADE SUCH A BIG PUSH TO OUR ZONING AND OUR LAND USE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS SO TO SPEAK AND WE ARE HERE FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR NEW PROJECTS. WE KEEP GETTING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE DON'T LIKE ALL THESE SHOPPING CLASSES AND HOW THEY LOOK AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF. BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO HAVE EVERYBODY SAY THEY'RE CAUGHT IN RED TAPE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO IN OUR CITY AND THEN THEY GET STUCK WITH THE SITE PLAN AMENDED ITEM OR NOT. AND SO EXCUSE ME AS I STRIP HAVING A JEWELRY FORMAT BASICALLY.

SO ON THAT WHEN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS I DO THINK THE REMOVAL OF THE NATURE WAY BEING INVOLVED A NATURE WAY OR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION OR HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION IS NOT A VIABLE REQUIREMENT PREREQUISITE. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MORE STRINGENT TO HAVING LAND USE IF YOU SERVED ON THE PARK ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING IN THIS CITY OR ANOTHER CITY WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE LAND USE EXPERIENCE THAT'S FINE.

THESE HAVE AND YOU DON'T HAVE LAND USE EXPERIENCE AND YOU'RE NOT A LAND USE ATTORNEY YOU'RE NOT AN ENGINEER NOT AN ARCHITECT BUT YOU'VE BEEN ON ONE OF THESE BOARDS YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH OUR TERMINOLOGIES. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ADDED AS A REQUIREMENT. LEAVE IT OPEN TO THE FLOOR FOR OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT.

ACTUALLY YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT MAXINE SINCE YOU ARE THE STUFF WE ASSUME FOR THAT. YEAH JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO THE WAY THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY READS IT'S ANY INTERESTED CITIZEN MAY BE APPOINTED. HOWEVER THERE IS SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR THE FOLLOWING ARCHITECTURE LAW LAND DEVELOPMENT REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT OR SALES ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE URBAN PLANNING ENGINEERING OR ACTIVISM IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CONDOMINIUM OR HLA ASSOCIATION. SO ESSENTIALLY IF THOSE SPECIALTIES ARE NOT MET THEN IT'S ANY INTERESTED CITIZEN MY OPINION IS WE NEED TO REMOVE THE WORD MAY AND WE WOULD NEED TO REMOVE THE HLA. BUT ADD IF YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING IN ANY COMMUNITY IN WHICH YOU LIVE. PROVEN OF COURSE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD APPOINTMENTS. THIS IS NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THOSE APPOINTMENTS WHO HAVE CURRENTLY BEEN APPOINTED. THIS IS FOR FUTURE APPOINTMENTS. IN MY OPINION FOR WHAT NEEDS TO GO FORWARD AS FAR AS OUR PARKS AND REC IF YOU WILL GREG YOU ARE OUR LIAISON FOR THAT I HAPPEN TO BE THE CITY LIAISON WHO GOES TO THE MEETINGS AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON. THERE WAS DISCUSSION WHETHER OR NOT WE FEEL IT'S A VIABLE BOARD. YOU'VE EXPRESSED THAT YOU FEEL IT IS. WHICH IS GREAT BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE US CONSIDERED THAT WOULD MAKE IT A STRONGER BOARD. SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED DIRECTION FROM US TO DO OR SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE TO MAKE THAT BOARD MORE EFFECTIVE. I THINK THE ONE THING AND IT'S BEEN PROBABLY OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO AND AS I SAID IT'S A FIVE MEMBER BOARD AND I THINK THERE HAS BEEN SOME SOMEWHAT ABSENT THAT WE'VE PROBABLY OVER THAT DONE OVER THE PAST YEAR WE'VE HAD WE HAVE HAD HAD THE VACANCY WHICH IS TAKING US DOWN TO FOUR AND THEN SINCE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS WE'VE HAD ANOTHER MEMBER THAT THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP FOR THE MEETINGS. SO GETTING DOWN TO THREE PEOPLE I THINK THAT THAT DEFINITELY HAS HAD A HINDERANCE ON ANY EFFECTIVENESS AND THE IN THE DISCUSSIONS AT THE AT THE ADVISORY BOARD MEETINGS. BUT I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE APPOINTMENTS COMING UP. IF WE GET THE COMMISSIONER APPOINTMENTS AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS THE I THINK THE POINT OF THE BOARD THEIR ADVISORY BUT THEIR ADVISORY NOT ONLY TO ME THEIR ADVISORY TO TO ALL OF YOU. AND I THINK THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND THE BOARD MAKES MAKES A HECK OF A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE BOARD. SO IF MAYOR OR COMMISSIONER GO ON YOUR APPOINTMENT IS

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COMMUNICATING WITH YOU AS WELL AS COMMUNICATING WITH WITH US DURING OUR MEETINGS AND THINGS. I THINK THAT THAT IN ITSELF MAKES IT MORE MORE EFFECTIVE. I THINK IN SOME INSTANCES AND NOT ALL NOT ALL OF THE CURRENT PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.

BUT I THINK IN SOME INSTANCES WE HAVE LOST THAT THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE COMMISSION MAKING THAT APPOINT COMMISSIONER MAKING THAT APPOINTMENT AND THE AND THE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS. SO I THINK THAT MORE OF A TIGHTER CONNECTION BETWEEN THOSE APPOINTMENTS AND AND REALIZING THAT THEY ARE APPOINTED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON OR THE VICE MAYOR AND THEN COMMUNICATING THOUGHTS WITH WITH THEM. I THINK IN ONE INSTANCE I THINK THAT WOULD WOULD MAKE THINGS MORE EFFECTIVE.

AND I THINK THE AGAIN THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD IS IS IMPORTANT. WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ALL THE TIME AND I THINK THIS IS ONE BOARD THAT WE DEFINITELY CAN GET COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IF WE HAVE THE THE BOARD WORKING TOGETHER. THE FIVE MEMBERS AND NOT ONLY AN ADVISORY ROLE BUT AN ADVOCACY ROLE. AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF THIS FALLS BACK ON ME AS TO GIVING THEM DIRECTION AS WELL AS TO GETTING THEM OUT AND BEING POSSIBLY A SECRET SHOPPER. I KNOW BROWARD COUNTY DOES THAT WITH THEIR ADVISORY BOARD JUST SETTING UP CERTAIN SOME DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THAT THE ADVICE COMING BACK OR THE THINGS COMING BACK TO TO US FOR FOR ACTION ARE ARE DEFINITELY MEANINGFUL AND WE'RE GETTING TRUE TRUE INFORMATION AND AS WELL. AND THEY'VE DONE THIS OVER THE YEARS COMING OUT TO OUR EVENTS AND THE ADVISORY BOARD SHIRTS HANDING OUT INFORMATION TALKING TO RESIDENTS THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO I THINK THE ADVOCACY IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE ADVISORY PORTION OF THAT BOARD. THANK YOU. WELL THE ART COMMITTEE SAME QUESTION TO YOU OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMITTEE AND HOW YOU SEE THE CURRENT STRUCTURE AND ARE THERE ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO HELP YOU WITH THE ART COMMITTEE. WELL THE CURRENT STRUCTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH MOST PUBLIC ART I GUESS COMMUNITIES OR COMMITTEES IN BROWARD COUNTY. SO OUR MODEL IS CONSISTENT WITH CORAL SPRINGS IS CONSISTENT WITH POMPANO BEACH WHICH ARE SOME OF THE CITIES THAT JUMP OUT RIGHT AWAY. HAVING A PUBLIC ART FUND AND THERE'S A COMMITTEE IN PLACE THAT BRINGS THAT TRANSPARENCY I THINK FOR THE MOST PART THE STRUCTURE IS OK. MAYBE A REFRESHER. THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD BE IDEAL AT THIS TIME BUT I THINK THE STRUCTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEE WITH MOST PUBLIC ART COMMITTEES AND HOW THEY FUNCTION. WE HAVE CURRENTLY A WE HAVE CONSULTANTS WHO ARE THOSE ARE CONSULTANTS USED IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL. THEY SERVE THE CITY OF LAUDERDALE LAKES AS WELL. YES. MEANING NOT NECESSARILY THAT PARTICULAR CONSULTING GROUP THAT WE HAVE. DO OTHER CITIES USE CONSULTANTS. THEY DO.

THEY ALL DO. SPRING NOT ANY LAKES AND YES THE CITY. I'M SORRY YOU WERE SAYING THEY ALL DO CORAL SPRINGS POMPANO BEACH LAUDERDALE LAKES AND THE CITY OF TAMARACK YES THEY ALL HAVE CONSULTANTS. DO YOU FIND BECAUSE I REMEMBER BEING ON THE COMMIT MISSION AT TIME WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM AND WE HAD A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT AND WE HAVE A CURRENT SET OF CONSULTANTS. DO YOU FIND THIS PROCEDURE BENEFICIAL. CONSULTANT YEAH. AND SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE I THINK WE'VE HAD GLEN WELDON I THINK IT WAS HIS NAME WAS OUR FIRST CONSULTANT THAT SERVED FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND THEN HE WAS REPLACED OF COURSE WITH CATS AND RABBITS. SO FOR THE MOST PART GIVEN THE MAINTENANCE OF THE THE MASTER PLAN THE MAINTENANCE FOR ALL OUR PUBLIC ART INSTALLATION IN ADDITION TO THE POSTING OF THE ALTAR CALLS AND THE DRAFTING OF ALL THE CALLS IT'S ALL DONE BY THE PUBLIC ART ADMINISTRATORS THEY DO THE INITIAL JURY AND FOR ALL THE CALLS. SO IT'S VITAL TO HAVE THEM IN PLACE AS WELL AS A PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND THAT'S MY RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE YOUTH COUNCIL AND BASICALLY IN SPEAKING WITH SEVERAL OF THE PRINCIPALS IN OUR CITY OR THAT EDUCATE THE SCHOOLS THAT EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN. YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIG PROPONENT FOR IT WE'RE BIG PROPONENTS OF IT. I THINK A GOOD WAY TO TIE IN WITH THE SCHOOLS WOULD BE BASICALLY GOING THROUGH THEIR STUDENT GOVERNMENT THEIR STUDENT UNIONS THAT THEY HAVE AND MAYBE WE MIGHT HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DESIGNATED IF WE'RE DEALING WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LEVEL VERSUS JUNIOR HIGH LEVEL VERSUS HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR DIFFERENT LEVELS

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OBVIOUSLY. WELL THERE WAS JUST A MENTION OF AN EDUCATION COMMITTEE. MY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO JUST CONVERT OUR STAKEHOLDERS COMMITTEE OR STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE INTO MAYBE BEING THAT EDUCATION COMMITTEE THAT WE ARE ALREADY WORKING ON VERSUS HAVING A NEED TO RECREATE A WHEEL BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A VERY STRONG FUNDAMENTAL GROUP OF PEOPLE IN OUR STAKEHOLDERS. COMMITTEE I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT THE EDUCATIONAL GROUP OR EDUCATION COMMITTEE I THINK THE THING THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE WAY IT OPERATES RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANT A FORMAL COMMITTEE IS COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS WHICH WHICH WITH THE CURRENT GROUP WE HAVE WITH WITH THIS IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE GROUP THAT WE HAVE ARE MADE UP OF TEACHERS NONPROFIT PARENTS. SO THE PARENTS OBVIOUSLY LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMARACK THE TEACHERS THE ADMINISTRATORS THE PEOPLE FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD OF BROWARD COUNTY WOULD NOT RESIDE OR DOES NOT NECESSARILY RESIDE IN TAMARACK AS WELL AS THE NONPROFIT PARTNERS MY INITIAL REACTION TO THAT IS THAT'S OK WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE EVERY COMMITTEE BEING ONE THAT'S APPOINTED BY THIS COMMISSION THIS BODY WE NEED TO HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE THAT WILL SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND WE HAVE CHILDREN WHO ARE CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOLS OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY RIGHT NOW AND THE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP HAS BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WORKING WITH OUR SCHOOL BOARD AND OUR CITY STAFF. SO ON A PERSONAL ITEM I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PICKING ANYWAY. AS FAR AS THE MULTICULTURAL COUNCIL OR MEETING. AS A STANDALONE OR SOMETHING AS A SUBCOMMITTEE AS IT'S BEEN OFF THROUGH OUR PARKING LOT BECAUSE LET'S BE REALISTIC IT COMES THROUGH STUFF THAT DEALS WITH OUR PARKS AND REC. I AM FOR MULTICULTURAL I AM JUST REQUESTING THAT IT BE KEPT AS AN INCLUSIVE TYPE SITUATION VS. AN EXCLUSIVE DIVERSITY TYPE ORGANIZATION. I'VE MADE THIS COMMENT BEFORE UNITY AND COMMUNITY. I'M NOT A FAN OF DIVERSITY IN THE WORD DIVERSE COMES THROUGH AS A DIVISION. SO IF WE COULD KEEP IT AS WHAT OUR PURPOSES FOR WHAT OUR CITY'S ALWAYS BEEN TRYING TO DO IS BEING UNITED AND CELEBRATE OUR DIFFERENCES THAT MAKE US UNIQUE. BUT IT ALSO MAKES US ALL ONE BECAUSE THERE IS A COMMON THREAD THROUGH ALL OF US. AND SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING A MULTICULTURAL COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER WE WANTED TO TO CALL IT. I HAVE A QUESTION ON OUR PROCEDURES BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL OUR PROCEDURES HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED IN THE RESPECTS OF THERE HAVE BEEN OPENINGS ON OUR BOARDS AND YET WE KEEP ADVERTISING AND ADVERTISING AND ADVERTISING AND ADVERTISING AND ADVERTISING AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE SEATS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN FOR WHATEVER REASON IT IS OUR ACTUAL RULES. IF I RECALL THIS CORRECTLY WITHOUT PULLING IT OUT YOU HAVE FOUR TRIES TWICE AND IF YOU CAN'T PICK SOMEBODY FROM YOUR ZONE YOUR DISTRICT AFTER TWO ROUNDS OF ADVERTISING YOU PICK FROM ANYWHERE ELSE IN THIS CITY. IF SOMEBODY HAS APPLIED I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE DONE THAT. INSTEAD WE'VE LEFT THE PARK WRECK OR IT HAS BEEN LEFT OPEN FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS NOW AT LEAST WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY FOR DISTRICT 2 APPLY SO ONLY RECENTLY. YEAH THAT'S RECENTLY SO I WAS ASKED TO GO OUT TO ADVERTISE TO THAT AND THEN COMMISSIONER BOLTON ALSO ASKED TO GO OUT TO ADVERTISE AGAIN BECAUSE HE WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HAD PUT APPLICATIONS IN. SO THAT JUST CLOSED FRIDAY AT 5:00. I HAVE THEM SEPARATED BUT I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER. BUT WE DID GET A TICKET. WE DID GET A FEW. WE DIDN'T GET A FEW FOR BOTH OF THE DISTRICTS WHICH AGAIN COMES DOWN TO THE PURPOSE OF OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT HAVE TO BE UNIFORM UNIFORM FOR ALL OF US SO IF BASICALLY THE AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE'VE ADVERTISED TWICE FOR OUR DISTRICT 1 DISTRICT 2 AND IF THERE'S NO ONE WITHIN THEIR REALM THAT IS SUFFICIENT THEN IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF PICKING FROM SOMEBODY ELSE WITHIN THE OTHER APPLICATIONS PLACE UNLESS WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THOSE PROCEDURES WHICH I DO NOT THINK WE'RE DOING AT THIS TIME. NO COMMENT ABOUT THAT. NOT YET. I'M GONNA FINISH. I'M ALMOST DONE AND EVERYBODY ELSE GETS THE RESPECT OF HAVING THEIR STUFF FINISHED. I'D LIKE MY BASICALLY THERE HAS

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BEEN A REQUEST BY YOURSELF COMMISSIONER YELLEN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE OF WHAT YOUR ITEM IS FOR A CITIZEN POLICE REVIEW BOARD. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT ENTAILS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT THAT MEANS. PLEASE ANSWER. SURE. SO A LOT OF CITIES INCLUDING CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE AND A FEW OTHERS IN BROWARD COUNTY HAVE ENOUGH ACROSS THE NATION HAVE A CITIZENS REVIEW REVIEW BOARD TO REVIEW THE ACTIONS OF POLICE AND THEIR BEHAVIOR AND TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR DISCIPLINE AND OTHER MATTERS. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EXPLORE. LOOK AT THE BEST PRACTICE MODELS AND IMPLEMENT THOSE OTHER CITIES THAT YOU'RE CITING ARE THEY. DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN POLICE FORCES OR ARE THEY HAVE A VENDOR SIDE. I HAVE NO CLUE BUT I THINK IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. AND AS I SAID BEFORE I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE HAVING OUR OWN POLICE FORCE. SO I GUESS I'LL TAKE AT SOME POINT THROUGH YOU THROUGH THE CHAIR TAKE CONSENSUS ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK OUR CONTRACT EXPIRES IN TWO YEARS AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AND DO AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT NEGOTIATING LEVERAGE AS WE CONSIDER EITHER RENEWING OUR CONTRACT WITH VSO OR GOING ON AS FAR AS THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION. I'M GONNA SAY WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ANOTHER DAY. THAT'S WHY AS FAR AS THE REVIEW OF OUR CITIZENS POLICE FORCE OR POLICE REVIEW BOARD I'M ALSO GOING TO ASK THAT IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE THROUGH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS OR AN EXAMPLE AND OUR CITY MANAGER SO THEY CAN COME BACK TO US WITH A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BEFORE WE DO ANY KIND OF CONSENSUS. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. JUST GOING BACK TO YOUR ADVERTISING MONTHS ON THE POSITIONS THAT ARE BUT IF YOU ARE SO ANXIOUS WE HAVE A RUNDOWN THAT GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. NO. SO THE FIRST TIME AT LEAST IN MY CASE WHEN THE ADS WERE MADE FOR THE PARKS AND REC BOARD I WASN'T. NO I WASN'T NOTIFIED. SO I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE IT MYSELF. SO I THINK IF STAFF NOTIFIES THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HEY WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT YOU SHOULD PROMOTE THIS YOURSELF AS WELL AND WE'LL GET A BETTER TURNOUT AND RESPONSE. SO WE WE START TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ENGAGING WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS SO WE CAN PROMOTE BECAUSE WE HAVE A STRONGER CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY AND STOPPED US. AND SO WHEN I WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO OUT THIS TIME I MADE SURE I PROMOTED IT. I MAKE PHONE CALLS AND THEN WE GOT SOME PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR THE PARKS AND REC BOARD AND JUST SAID JUST GONNA ASK EVERYBODY KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE PROCEDURES AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE. AND AS THE WORLD IS EVOLVING AND TURNING A CERTAIN THINGS THE SOCIAL MEDIA AS WE CHANGE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CRITICISM OF THE PAST IS JUST ADDITIONAL NEW WAYS TO DO THINGS FOR THE FUTURE. SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE GOT SOME MORE APPLICATIONS WHICH ALSO THOUGH KEEPING IN MIND ONE THING WHEN THERE ARE OTHER APPOINTMENTS BEING MADE APPLICATIONS GOING OUT IF THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES IN PLACE THAT ALSO AFFECTS THE REST OF THE CITY. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCEDURES ARE NOT GOING TO BE DUPLICATED BECAUSE IF ONE AND 2 HAVE ALREADY PUT THEIRS OUT RIGHT WE STILL NEED TO CALL FOR 3 AND 4 BECAUSE AS A MAYOR I GET TO PICK OUT LARGE IF YOU'RE ONLY TELLING ME HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOT SAYING ONE AND TWO PEOPLE AREN'T GREAT BUT THEN I DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR AT LARGE AND ACTUALLY NEITHER DOES THE REST OF THE COMMISSION FOR ALTERNATES. I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THEM ON THE PARK AND REC OR WE HAVE THEM ON THE PLANNING BOARD AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THEY ARE NOT MEMORIZING WHAT YOU JUST GAVE ME NOT ON THE PUBLIC. BUT SO WE DON'T HAVE WE KEEP GOING OUT. WE KEEP ADVERTISING IF WE DON'T OR WE DON'T GET TO HAVE OUR PUSH ON IT AS WELL. EXCUSE ME. BUT AS FAR AS WHEN I DISTRIBUTED THE BOOKS WITH THE APPLICATIONS IN IT EVERYBODY GOT EVERY APPLICATION THAT WE HAD AT THAT TIME. SO I DIDN'T HOLD BACK ANYTHING FOR YOURS YOU KNOW FOR YOUR PICK. NO AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE ADDITIONAL PUSH IS ONLY BEING MADE IT'S NOT BEING MADE EVENLY. WE'RE NOT APPLYING THE RULES UNIFORMLY THROUGHOUT OUR CITY FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE THAT SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE SO TO SPEAK TO REAPPLY. BECAUSE IF YOU ONLY ADVERTISE FOR ONE AND TWO. WHAT IF THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE AND THREE AND FOUR. WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY MAYBE TO APPLY AGAIN THEY MISSED THE DEADLINE. NOW THEY'VE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. AND SO THREE AND FOUR THAT POOL IS LIMITED. I DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS WITH ME BUT MAYBE WE DIDN'T VOTE. I DIDN'T ADVERTISE ALL OVER THE CITY FOR CITYWIDE JUST BECAUSE WE HAD THE APPLICANTS AND THEY WERE APPOINTMENTS WERE MADE FOR THOSE DISTRICTS. I HAVEN'T DONE MY CITYWIDE RIGHT. BUT THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS AND I'M POSITIVE I'M NOT COMING ACROSS WELL. BUT

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IF YOU ADVERTISE FOR CITYWIDE. RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT ONE TWO THREE FOUR COMING OUT BUT EVERYBODY SUPPLIED DISTRICT 1 AND 2 ARE REAPPLY OR HAVE WE ADVERTISED THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME PEOPLE AND THREE AND FOUR THAT MISSED THE APPLICATION PROCESS IN THE FIRST ROUND. THAT MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN REAPPLIED WE ADVERTISE FOR THEM NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR APPLICATIONS TO BE AN INTERVIEW TO GO CITYWIDE. SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M SAYING THERE. IN MY OPINION THERE NEEDS TO BE A MORE UNIFORM WAY OF IF OTHER DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO BE REAL ADVERTISING THAN WE NEED TO RE ADVERTISE THEM WHERE IT'S FAIR TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR APPLICATIONS REVIEWED. I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE FOR A PLANNING AND ZONING AND PROBABLY PUBLIC ART BECAUSE WE HAVE DISTRICT 4 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN. SO I THINK WE NEED TO RE ADVERTISE THEM AT THIS POINT IN TIME. QUITE HONESTLY I THINK THOSE WHO'VE APPLIED ALREADY GREAT DEPENDING ON WHAT ROLES WE'RE GONNA COME TO PLAY WE NEED TO RE ADVERTISE FOR ALL THE CITY SO WE CAN HAVE ALL APPLICANTS HAVE A FAIR CHANCE TO DO IT. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR COMMISSIONER BALTIMORE AND I KNOW I SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR RE ADVERTISING IN DISTRICT 2 BECAUSE WHEN I GOT THE BOOK THAT'S WHEN I FIGURED OUT. NO ONE RESPONDED FOR THE PARKS AND REC AND THEN WHEN THE RE ADVERTISING WENT OUT I GOT A DIGITAL FLYER THAT I COULD DISTRIBUTE IN SHARING AND GET MORE SPONSORS. SO IT'S NOT A CRAZY NO I'M JUST SAYING WELL I DON'T WANT IT I DON'T WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE THE CITY CLERK MADE A DECISION TO PUT THE AD OUT ON HER OWN. NO I SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED I THINK MARLON SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THAT AND ANOTHER AD TO BE PLACED. I THINK THE ONUS IS ON THREE AND FOUR COMMISSIONERS TO SAY HEY CAN YOU PUT OUT ANOTHER WELL. BUT YOU'VE NOT APPOINTED YET. WE WERE WAITING FOR THIS.

WE WERE WAITING FOR THIS AND ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T EXPECT TO HAVE THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS STARTED UNTIL AFTER WE HAD THE CONVERSATION BUT I THOUGHT I THINK IT WAS YOUR DECISION TO RECAPITALIZE I WAS ON THE DAIS I ASKED FOR RE ADVERTISEMENT ARE YOU PLANNING BOARD. AND YOU SAID WELL I'M NOT JUST A PLANNING BOARD BUT LET'S ADVERTISE ARC'S WE HAVE NOT WE ADVERTISE THAT JUST YET BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT DID NOT WANT IT RE ADVERTISED UNTIL AFTER WE FINISHED FIGURING OUT THE RULES OR THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WERE ASKING FOR OR WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE MAKING A CHANGE. SO IT JUST AS A MATTER OF THIS GENTLEMEN GENTLEMAN LADIES I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP THAT THE CITY CLERK DID INCLUDE A DATE CERTAIN WHERE WE HAD TO LET HER KNOW WHAT OUR PICKS WERE.

DATE TIME. SO I KNOW I SUBMITTED MINE IN THAT IN THAT TIMEFRAME. SO WE ALL GOT THE BOOKS. WE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE PICK BY A CERTAIN DATE. THIS IS NOT A DEBATE. THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. WE KNOW THE PROCESS THAT WENT THROUGH. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO AGAIN IS MOVE US FORWARD BECAUSE THERE HAS NOT BEEN A WELL THE PROCEDURE HAS NOT BEEN WORKING AS WELL AS WE'D HOPED. OK AND THERE HAS BEEN A DIFFERING OF OPINIONS ON WHEN THE PROCEDURE WAS STARTING OR NOT. SO GOING FORWARD IF WE'RE RE ADVERTISING HOPEFULLY WE WON'T BE RE ADVERTISING AGAIN. HOPEFULLY WE HAVE EVERYTHING DOWN AND WE WON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. BUT GOING FORWARD IF WE'RE RE ADVERTISING MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE WILL BE ADVISED WHEN THERE IS ONE DISTRICT THAT NEEDS IT WE ADVERTISE AGAIN OR NOT. BUT BRINGING FORTH THAT IF WE RE ADVERTISED AFTER THIS ROUND IF WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GO INTO THEIR SEATS WE NEED TO BE BACK TO OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WHICH HAVE HAD WE DON'T KEEP RE ADVERTISING TILL WE GET SOMEBODY WE WANT WE RE ADVERTISE. WE DON'T GET ANYBODY IN OUR DISTRICT THAT WE WANT. WE THEN GO TO ONE IN ANOTHER DISTRICT AND WE'LL BE DONE WITH IT INSTEAD OF CONTINUALLY KEEPING AN OPENING ON THESE BOARDS WHICH IS CREATING A PROBLEM ON OUR BOARDS FOR CONSISTENCY AND BEING ABLE TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AT HAND. AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF WHAT OUR COMMITTEES ARE. THAT'S A OKAY JUST TO BE CERTAIN YOU WILL BE ADVERTISING IN THE PARKS BOARD BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT GOTTEN CITYWIDE WE'RE FINALIZING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STRUCTURE IS THE WAY WE WANT IT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I THINK AT THIS POINT SINCE WE'VE ALREADY RE ADVERTISED ONE INTO I THINK IT WILL BE FAIR TO HAVE THREE AND FOUR WE ADVERTISE IN CASE THERE'S ANYBODY WHO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY WHETHER IT BE FOR DISTRICT 4 OR CITYWIDE THAT THE APPLICATIONS ARE AVAILABLE SO NOBODY FEELS THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY. SO YES THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO REVERT TO ONCE THERE'S AN AD THAT'S A CITY WIDE IT

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COVERS ALL THE DISTRICT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO SEE DISTRICT 3 FOR IT COULD BE AS A WHOLE GENERAL AMOUNT AND WE GIVE GENERAL RIGHT. WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT WHEN WE FINISH TALKING ABOUT WHAT CHANGES WE'RE MAKING IN PROBABLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME. IT'S PROBABLY JUST EASIER TO RE ADVERTISE IT. SORRY. I KNOW THIS IS MORE WORK THAN YOU NEED RIGHT NOW. MY CONCERN IS THAT FOR THE APPOINTMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE TO THAT POSITION PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PUT IN APPLICATIONS THINKING THAT THEY HAVE A CHANCE. IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT IN THE ADVERTISING AND I KNOW IT CHANGES THE AD WAS ADVERTISING A LITTLE BIT CHANGES THE THE FEES THAT WE PAY AS WELL WORDING AND IN SOME WAY. JACOB THIS COMES TO YOU. THIS IS IT. THIS IS NOT RE ADVERTISING. DISTRICT 1 IN DISTRICT 2 PLANNING BOARD IS NOT RE ADVERTISING DISTRICT TO ART IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE APPOINTMENTS WE HAVE MADE SO FAR. IF I MAY THROW THE CHAIR THEN ONE OF THE ISSUES IS WE KEEP ADVERTISING WITH THE SAME MEDIAN THAT DOESN'T GENERATE ANY RESULTS. SO MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO ADVERTISE WITH THE SUNSET NUMBER WE ADVERTISE ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER AND INSTAGRAM WHERE YOU CAN LIMIT THE ADVERTISING INTO A SPECIFIC ZIP CODE. YOU CAN MAXIMIZE THE NUMBER OF USE. THE PEOPLE THAT SEE THE ADVERTISING AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY MEASURE IT AND YOU CAN TELL AT THE END OF THE CAMPAIGN HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAW THE AD. SO YOU KNOW WE KEEP GOING TO THE SUNSET OR WHEN NO ONE LOOKS AT THE NEWSPAPER WITH THESE THINGS.

ACTUALLY RESPECTFULLY TO THE MODERN SOCIAL GOALS THAT WE HAVE. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE WILL NOTICE BY DEFINITION ARE STILL WITHIN THE PAPER CERTAIN SIZE AND PUBLICATION. SO IT DOESN'T SAY THAT WE CAN'T USE THE SOCIAL MEDIA ASPECTS WHICH I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN DOING AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO BUT WE ARE STILL OBLIGATED UNDER THE LAW TO ADVERTISE. THAT'S FINE. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO OTHER NEWSPAPERS. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF HISPANIC NEWSPAPERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SOME BLACK NEWSPAPERS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO IF WE BROADEN THE SCOPE INCLUDING SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER DIVERSE NEWSPAPERS WE MIGHT GET A BROADER AUDIENCE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. OK SO VICE MAYOR GUY YOU KNOW WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT OTHER THAN MAYBE DISTRICT 1 WHO HAS AN EMPTY SEAT THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE FILLED. WE'RE NOW ONLY FILLING SEATS IN 2 4 AND THE MAYOR'S JUST WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT DOING 1 THROUGH 4 RIGHT. I MEAN UNLESS THERE'S AN OPENING THAT HASN'T BEEN FILLED FOR THE PAST YEAR OR SOMETHING THERE'S NO REASON TO KEEP RE ADVERTISING FOR IT LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE DISTRICT 3 ALL HER SEATS ARE FILLED. YES BUT WHAT IF THERE WAS A THREE PERSON THAT I WANT TO KNOW. I SEEM TO FIND REALLY GUYS THAT INCLUDES THE MAYOR AND SHE IS DISTRICT WIDE SHE IS ANYONE. SO I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN DISTRICT 3 WHO MAY WANT TO. OK. THEY DON'T HAVE. OK. AND AND I GET THAT I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN DISTRICT 3 TO SAY OR THE PERSON WHO'S SITTING IN THE SEAT IN DISTRICT 3 TO SAY OH GEE I'M BEING REPLACED AND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. SO YOU KNOW IT'S A LITTLE CONVOLUTED I GUESS BUT I GET THAT SORRY. BUT IF I MAY I THINK WHAT THE VICE MAYOR WAS SAYING IS WHEN DISTRICT 1 ADVERTISING DISTRICTS ADVERTISE THE DISTRICT 3 AND 4 WHEREVER THAT IS CITYWIDE. SO YOU ALREADY HAVE THESE WOLF PEOPLE WHO APPLIED FOR MY DISTRICT MIKE'S DISTRICT THERE WAS THIS DISTRICT THAT'S CITYWIDE. SO TO REVITALIZE IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE THE MAYOR WE WANTED TO ADVERTISE IT YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ADVERTISED UNDER THE MAYOR. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ADVERTISED LIKE THAT. IF THE ONLY TWO DISTRICTS THAT ARE LEFT ARE FOR THREE AND FOUR THEN THEY HAVE TO BE RE ADVERTISED TO BE ABLE TO GET THE FULL CITY BUT THEY'LL BE ALREADY ADVERTISED BUT AGAIN WE ARE CHANGING SOME OF THE POSSIBLY CHANGING SOME OF THE PARAMETERS HERE AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS I HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME RESIDENTS WHO FEEL THAT IT HAS BEEN WE ADVERTISE AND WE ADVERTISE FOR OTHER AREAS THEY MIGHT HAVE MISSED THE ABILITY TO THEY MAY HAVE MISSED IT BY A DAY THEY DIDN'T BOTHER TO PUT IT IN. SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME SINCE WE'RE RE ADVERTISING AND WE'RE TRYING TO JUST GET THIS CLEAN AND MOVE IT FORWARD THEN LET'S JUST GET IT

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CLEAN AND MOVE FORWARD WHERE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT. SO BACK TO WHERE WE ARE. IF I UNDERSTAND OUR COMMISSION CORRECTLY THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES TO AH NO CHANGES TO ARKHAM CONTRACT VETERANS WE'VE ASKED FOR MODIFICATION. BLESS YOU. YOUTH COUNCIL WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOU TO COME BACK TO US WITH SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION OF DIVERSITY. WHERE DID THAT REMOVE. WE'RE USING MULTICULTURAL COMMITTEE. YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO US WITH A PLAN FOR US TO DISCUSS ON HOW TO DO THAT APPOINTMENT. OUR EDUCATION COMMITTEE. DO I HAVE. MR. PRESIDENT I'M GOING TO REITERATE ON THE MULTICULTURAL I BELIEVE IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A DIVERSITY COMMITTEE BECAUSE CULTURAL DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL OF THE DIVERSITY THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE. I'M GOING TO ASK THIS. CAN WE HAVE SOMEBODY JUST COME UP WITH A BETTER TERMINOLOGY THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHICH IS YOU HAVE EVENTS THAT ARE EXPRESSIVE OF ALL OF US AND NOT EXCLUSIVE. SO WHEN YOU'RE FIGURING OUT THE TERMINOLOGY AND THE BOARD ITSELF GO FORTH AND COME UP WITH THE NAME I WOULD CALL IT THE INCLUSION COMMITTEE. AND IT DOESN'T JUST TWO EVENTS. IT ALSO NEEDS TO LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMMING THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING BARRIERS TO PEOPLE THAT DON'T FIT IN. BUT THAT ON THE LIST FOR ALL THAT. AND SO IN OUR EDUCATIONAL COMMITTEE BEING BASICALLY THAT OF WHICH OUR STAKEHOLDERS ALREADY ARE AND I'M MOVING IN TO OUR PNC COMMISSIONER YOU HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. YEAH I MEAN I DON'T KNOW OR I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE TERM DIVERSITY OR CULTURAL IS SOMEHOW NOT INCLUSIVE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD DIVERSITY IT MEANS ACCEPTING EVERYTHING THAT'S DIVERSE. SO SO EVERYBODY HAS SOME LEVEL OF DIVERSITY REGARDLESS AND AND EVERY GROUP OR POPULATION OF PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN CULTURE. SO IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE IN ANY WAY. AND NOW GOING BACK TO THE LAST ITEM WHICH IS OUR PNC AND BASICALLY THE REQUEST FOR THE CHANGES THAT I HAVE MADE OR ASKED TO BE MADE MENTION OF FRESHMEN. ARE YOU FINE WITH THEM YOU NEED TO REPEAT THEM. YES. OK. BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BASICALLY FOR THE PART PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE WE HAVE GIVEN THEM AN ENUMERATED AMOUNT OF POWER THAT STAYS WITH THEM VERSUS BRINGING IT UP TO THE COMMISSION AND IN SUCH INSTEAD OF HAVING THE REQUIREMENTS AS A MAY HAVE THEM AS A SHOW WHICH WOULD AND I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE LIST MAXINE WOULD YOU READ THE LIST AGAIN MINUS THE LAST TWO I'M ARCHITECTURE OR LAW LAND DEVELOPMENT REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT OR SALES ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE URBAN PLANNING ENGINEERING GOING TO BELIEVE THE LESS ACTUALLY LOST ACTIVIST. YEAH I OVERHEARD CONDOMINIUM OR H WE HAVE THAT WITH US NOW. WE'VE BEEN CIRCULATING IT SEVERAL TIMES. YEAH. THIS IS IN THE LAND DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS REMOVING THE H AWAY AS A REQUIREMENT AND ADDING THAT IF YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCE SERVING PROVEN EXPERIENCE SERVING ON A PLANNING AND ZONING COUNCIL COMMITTEE OR BOARD I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THANK YOU MR. GO. I'M OKAY WITH LEAVING THE LANGUAGE AS IS THANK YOU VICE MAYOR OKAY. WITH THE CHANGES. YEAH. MR. BOLTON I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE GET TOO RESTRICTIVE WE ARE LIMITING EVEN MORE PEOPLE WHO COULD APPLY I MEAN WHO'S TO SAY THAT SOMEBODY THAT APPLIES THAT YOU KNOW IS NOT AN ARCHITECT. THAT STUFF WOULDN'T BE A FRESH HAVE FRESH IDEAS ON THAT BOARD. WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR COMMISSION I MEAN IF IF I HAD THESE REQUIREMENTS PERHAPS I WOULDN'T BE HERE. SO AND THEN THE PLANNING BOARD IS NOT AS HIGH AS A CITY COMMISSION LEVEL. SO WE'RE IMPOSING REQUIREMENTS ON THE PLANNING BOARD THAT THE CITY COMMISSION PRETTY MUCH DOES NOT HOW SO LIKE WHY ARE WE TAKING OUT WE BOARD

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WHEN THAT IN ITSELF IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST SINGLE WHAT PERHAPS IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT REQUIREMENT BUT BECAUSE EACH WAY BOARDS KIND OF UNDERSTAND ROBERT'S RULES. SOME OF THEM AND THEY KNOW DECORUM AND HOW TO RUN A MEETING. THAT'S THE STUFF THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO THE PLANNING BOARD.

I TAKE THAT OFTEN WITH DOES THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE TAKING OFF A KEY ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO HAVE BEING A REALTOR DOES NOT TEACH YOU HOW TO RUN MEETINGS. BOARD KIND OF GIVES YOU THE KNOW HOW TO RUN MEETINGS AND HOW TO COME FORWARD. YOU KNOW APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE ACTUALLY MY OPINION IS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING IS NOT ON HOW TO RUN A MEETING IT'S HOW TO READ THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF OUR CITY. SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR VARIANCES PLAN CHANGES AND OTHER SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LANGUAGE AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE DOING MORE THAN WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN RUN THE MEETING.

BUT EACH WE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. YOU'RE SAYING THEY PRIMARILY IF THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE ON LAND AND ZONING THEN THAT WOULD BE UNDER THE OTHER CATEGORY OF HAVING EXPERIENCE PLANNING ZONING THERE VERSUS HLA EXPERIENCE. BY VIRTUE OF BEING ON AN EACH WAY BOARD. YOU ARE EXPOSED TO THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE YOU'RE OK. YOU'RE WELCOME TO YOUR OPINION COMMISSIONER WALTON IF IF I SIT ON A MAJOR WHEAT BOARD I I'M TALKING EVERYDAY ABOUT SHRUBS AND THE ENTRANCE TO MY COMMUNITY AND ALL THESE THINGS. OK. THAT'S THAT'S CRAZY A LITTLE BIT ABSURD. I MEAN I WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT THOUGH. I MEAN I HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BOARDS THAT ACTUALLY RISE TO A LEVEL THAT HAVE CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST OUR CITY MOVING FORWARD AND WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON THIS COMMISSIONER WALT I UNDERSTAND BUT I'M JUST YOU KNOW TAKEN ABACK THAT YOU KNOW YOU YOU CAME UP WITH THAT. I MEAN THAT MAKE AN IDEAL AND YOU WANT TO SAY SO YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE THAT IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD KIND OF SET THEM APART TO BE A VERY GOOD MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD. BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND PROCESS THEY UNDERSTAND TERMINOLOGY AND THAT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW SO I'M JUST YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT IN MEASURE WALTON. YOU'VE YOU'VE SAID YOUR PSA. THAT'S RIGHT I MEAN MY MY APPOINTMENT IS ALREADY MADE. I'M SAYING EXACTLY I KNOW THE FUTURE. YOU'RE YOU'RE TAKING AWAY LIKE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY OF THE KNOW HOW. THAT'S OKAY. ONE OF THE ONE OF THE WAYS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER VAULT AND VICE MAYOR DID YOU WANT THIS UP AGAIN OR ARE YOU DONE. ANYTHING NEW. NOT TRYING TO DISSUADE OR CHANGE ANYBODY'S OPINION AT THIS POINT IN TIME. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE ALL HAVE OUR OPINIONS AND WE'RE GETTING ON FOUR O'CLOCK AND WE SAW SOME OTHER THINGS TO DO. SO YOU APPLY THEIR RULES TO ME. IT'S FOR ALL OF YOU FOR EVERYBODY AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE WE SEEM TO TRY TO CONVINCE EACH OTHER TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS. AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME I'M NOT HERE TO CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND. COMMISSIONER BOLTON KNOWS THESE THREE VOTES. MY. MY COMMENT IS TO OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR OR WE'RE GONNA GIVE THIS GENTLEMAN A TIME CERTAIN TO PROVIDE PROOF THAT HE'S A RESIDENT. YOU'RE ON A DIFFERENT THING. CAN I FINISH WITH THE TOPIC THAT WE WERE ON. WE'RE IN THE SAME THING I'M ON THE PLANNING BOARD. NO NO. WE'RE ON CHANGING THE RULES. LET ME FINISH WHAT I'VE GOT HERE ON THE CONSENSUS FORMULATION. GREAT. WELL JUST A SECOND.

DOES THAT MEAN. YOU'LL GO. LET ME FINISH THIS PROCESS SO CITY ATTORNEY IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REDRAFT THE ORDINANCE IN LEGISLATION TO SHOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES HAVE MADE CONSENSUS. WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH GETTING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN ADVERTISE ACCORDINGLY. THANK YOU. NOW COMMISSIONER. SO SWORN IN. DO YOU HAVE THE UH THE ATTENDANCE TO RUN THE PLANNING BOARD. THE PARKS AND REC BOARD MEETING. WELL YOU'RE SAYING YOU STRUGGLE WITH ATTENDANCE TO THE MEETINGS. WE JUST WE. AS I SAID WE HAVE ONE VACANCY AND WE HAVE THE SECOND INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS NOT SHOWN UP FOR QUITE QUITE SOME TIME. SO WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN WE CAN OPERATE THE MEETINGS. IT'S JUST THE THE MORE VARIED DISCUSSION MORE INPUT. THAT

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TYPE OF THING. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE HAVE TO BE PRESENT TO ATTEND THE MEETING OR CAN THEY ATTEND VIRTUALLY THE A VIDEO CONFERENCE OR TELEPHONE CONFERENCE THEY CAN. AND WE'VE EVER HAD THAT REQUEST. OKAY. OH YES. OKAY. AND THEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE. CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR BOARDS COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS AND IT SAYS IN HERE THAT THERE SHOULD BE AN ANNUAL REVIEW ON OR BEFORE MAY 1ST OF EACH YEAR OF THEIR RESPECTIVE ADVISORY BOARD OR COMMITTEE SHALL FORWARD TO THE CITY COMMISSION A SUMMARY OF THE ADVISORY BOARDS OR COMMITTEES ACCOMPLISHMENTS DURING THE PAST YEAR. HAVE WE GOTTEN THAT FROM EACH OF OUR BOARDS. YOU GET IT ANNUALLY FROM THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. NO. OK. WE DON'T GET IT FOR THE OTHER COMMITTEES. WE HAVE NOT DONE IT FOR VETERANS OR PERSONAL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BASED ON THIS LANGUAGE. I'M SORRY. YOU ALSO GOT IT FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. YOU DO BRING THAT FORWARD TO SO NOT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD NOT FOR THE VETERANS OR PROXY WORK REASON WE CAN DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. IF THAT'S THE COMMISSION'S WISHES IT MEANS AN ORDINANCE. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE'RE NOT GETTING IT. WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IT FROM HERE IN. IS THERE A SET REASON WHY IT WAS MADE VERSUS ANY OTHER TIME. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED ABOUT TIMING OF IT. COMMISSION DO WE NEED TO BE ENFORCING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. DO YOU FEEL IT IS NECESSARY WE GET IT FROM THE ART AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING VETERANS MEET FOUR TIMES A YEAR PARKING RACK. YOU BASICALLY COME THROUGH WITH YOUR ITEMS THAT ARE DISCUSSED AT MEETINGS I'M GOING TO SAY AND I THINK I MAY AS THAT'S BUDGET TIME AND WE WITH WITHIN THOSE BUDGET HEARINGS WE GIVE AN UPDATE ON OUR DEPARTMENT. SO I THINK THAT HAS TRANSITION OR THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT NOT SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT THAT WAY BUT IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THAT MANNER AND THE SAME FOR THE PLANNING BOARD. YOU REALLY SEE MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT GO BEFORE THEM. THE OTHER ITEM THAT YOU DO NOT SEE WE HAD BEEN PROVIDING ON A MONTHLY BASIS THROUGH EMAIL AND YOU MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN THIS A REPORT ON THE ITEMS THAT CAME BEFORE THEM AND HOW IT WAS VOTED ON. SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT NOW FOR THE PAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. SO SHOULD WE REMOVE IT FROM THE CODE OR SHOULD YOU GUYS JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND SAY HERE IS THE ANNUAL REVIEW. JUST TAKE THE BULLET POINTS IN THEIR ANNUAL REVIEW. IF YOU WERE THE ATTORNEY SINCE YOU'RE MODIFYING OR OTHER PARTS OF IT. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE TO SAY MAY MUST ALREADY GIVEN DURING OTHER PROCESSES DURING THE YEAR. JUST A COUPLE OBSERVATIONS HAVEN'T HEARD THE CONVERSATION THERE. IF I MAY. THERE'S REALLY A LOT ON THE TABLE AT THE MOMENT GIVEN THE NATURE AND SCOPE OF THE DISCUSSION REGARDING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BOARDS AND GENERAL PROCEDURES WHICH WOULD APPLY TO ALL OF THE BOARDS. YOU KNOW KEEP IN MIND WE'RE IN A WORKSHOP SETTING AT THE MOMENT. THERE'S NO ACTION BEING TAKEN THERE. THERE MAY BE SOME LIMITED CONSENSUS TO THE EXTENT THAT OUR OFFICE WOULD IT TAKE SOME DIRECTION TO DRAFT PARTICULARLY THAT WOULD COME AT A FORMAL MEETING WITH THOSE EMOTIONS SECOND FOLLOWED BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE. WHAT I MAY RECOMMEND GIVEN THE DISCUSSION AND THE VARIETY OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IF YOU'LL ALLOW US TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH STAFF JUST TO COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF MAY HAVE. HAVING BEEN REALLY THE FOCAL POINT IN A LIAISON FOR MOST OF THESE COMMITTEES AND ONE OPTION AN OPTION THAT'S BEEN TRIED AND TRUE A NUMBER OF OTHER VENUES IS TO PROVIDE SOME CONTINUITY AMONG THE BOARDS SO THAT ALL OF THE BOARDS ARE MEETING WITH CERTAIN FREQUENCY THAT THE COMPOSITION OF ALL OF THE BOARDS IS THE SAME THAT THE QUORUM REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME AGAIN. I MEAN THERE'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. THAT MAY NOT WORK IN ALL THESE SITUATIONS. I MEAN THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS SOME OF THE BOARDS FOR STATUTORY BOARDS SUCH AS THE PLANNING BOARDS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD. BUT GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IF YOU'D ALLOW US TO MAYBE GO BACK AND WORK WITH MAXINE AND HER TEAM GREG AND HIS TEAM AND COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE NATURE OF THE DISCUSSION TODAY AND MAYBE A WAY JUST TO MOVE THE CONVERSATION FORWARD PLEASE DO SO. THANK YOU. MARY YOU HAVE A COMMENT.

THANK YOU OK. CAN WE GO BACK TO PARKS AND REC FOR JUST A MINUTE. PEOPLE ARE NOT SHOWING UP FOR MEETINGS. SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE LEGITIMATE REASONS THEY'RE PUTTING A BURDEN ON EVERYBODY ELSE. PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP ON TIME AND THEY'RE WAITING AND PEOPLE AREN'T SHOWING UP AND THEY'RE NOT CALLING. WHY ARE THEY NOT MOVED ALONG. I

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MEAN WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THEM IF THEY DON'T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THE COMMITTEE TO SHOW UP AND WHY ARE WE KEEPING THEM THERE. WE WE NORMALLY WOULD NOT BUT THEY THEY ARE A COMMISSION APPOINTMENT AND WE WOULD MAKE RECOMMENDATION BUT THAT THE TIMING OF THIS FELL WITHIN THE TIMING OF PROMOTING FOR THE DISTRICT TO SEAT. SO OK. BECAUSE THE APPLICATIONS WERE COMING IN AND NEW APPOINTMENTS WERE GOING TO BE MADE. WE HAVE NOT MADE. OK. ALL RIGHT. THAT I GET THAT MAKES SENSE. OK. YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT A QUORUM. WHAT DOES THE PARKS AND REC BOARD VOTE ON THERE'S THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF OFFICIAL OFFICIAL VOTES BUT IF THERE IS AN ACTION THAT THEY'RE MAKING A SIGNIFICANT RECOMMENDATION SUCH AS A CAPITAL PROJECT RECOMMENDATION A RECOMMENDATION ON MOVING SOMETHING FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION AND AGAIN ITS ADVISORY SO IT'S NOT THAT WAY BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT THEN THEY WOULD VOTE ON THAT AS A BOARD TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD OR OR HAVE THE DIRECTOR MAKE SOME TAKE SOME ACTION ON SOMETHING. OK. IT SAYS HERE SHELL ALSO UNDERTAKE ANY PROJECT ASSIGNED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. HAVE WE EVER SIGNED ANYTHING. WHAT SOME OF US WOULD LIKE TO MOSUL. ALL RIGHT YEAH. AND I THINK THE RESPONSE I FRANKLY I NEVER KNEW WE COULD DO THAT. THE I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN DIRECT COMMISSION TO ADVISORY BOARD DIRECTION BUT THERE HAS BEEN DIRECTION TO ME AND OUR DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR RECOMMENDATION. OK. THAT'S INTERESTING.

YOU KNOW VERY OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT MY APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMITTEE DOES KEEP IN TOUCH WITH ME AND LET ME KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT IN PLACE AS IT IS IT WILL HAVE TO RESPECT BE RESPECTFUL OF THE OTHER MEMBERS AND IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SHOW UP AT LEAST LET PEOPLE KNOW. SO YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY SHOW UP AND THEN NOBODY ELSE IS THERE IT'S JUST YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THEM. AND IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THEN MAYBE THEY DO NEED TO BE REPLACED BUT NOW HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME NEW PEOPLE AND I LIKE THIS IDEA OF ASSIGNING PROJECTS. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA I'M GLAD THAT THAT I READ THIS YEAR. GREAT CAN YOU LET US KNOW WHEN OR LET THE RESPECTIVE COMMISSIONER KNOW WHEN THAT PERSON MISSES TWO OR THREE MEETINGS AND THEN AS A COMMISSION WE CAN DECIDE YOU KNOW THIS PERSON SHOULD BE REMOVED IF THEY CAN'T MAKE THE MEETING AND THEN THERE'S THE 4:00 TIMEFRAME A PROBLEM BECAUSE ISIS SERVE ON THE INSURANCE ADVISORY BOARD AND I DROPPED OUT BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE A 10 YEAR MEETING I NEEDED TO BE AT WORK SO 4:00 COULD BE A DIFFICULT TIME AS WELL.

BASICALLY THE RULES ARE IN PLACE. WE HAVE RULES IN PLACE THAT IF PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING THE MEETING AGAIN IT GOES BACK TO LET'S FOLLOW OUR RULES. THEY'RE IN PLACE FOR A REASON. SO IF THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER ON ITEM NUMBER SIX IT WOULD BE LOVELY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. WE VALUE. ALL RIGHT. RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO IT IS CURRENTLY NO NOT THAT TIME BUT 412 AND WE ARE NOW

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MOVING ON TO THE BANNING OF PLASTIC STRAWS DRAWERS AND STIRRING. AND THIS IS A TOPIC THAT COMMISSIONER GALLEN HAS ASKED. THIS IS JUST BASICALLY A WIN FOR FOUR HOME RULE. THE GOVERNOR VOTED AGAINST LETTING THE STATE TAKEOVER DECISIONS LIKE THIS AND SO WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION. WE'D LIKE TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BAN PLASTIC STRAWS STYROFOAM IF THAT'S APPLICABLE.

PLASTIC BAGS LIKE IF YOU GO TO CHICAGO OR SOME NORTHERN STATES LIKE D.C. IF YOU WANT A PLASTIC BAG YOU CAN HAVE ONE BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SAME THING WITH CHICAGO. SO IN ORDER TO HAVE A MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME LANGUAGE DRAFTED. WE HAVE CONSENSUS. ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO. I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY TO SPEAK. I AM ALL FOR THE ENVIRONMENT I AM ONE OF THOSE I LIKE TO CUT MY LITTLE PLASTIC THINGS THAT THE SODA COMES IN AND THE GATORADE COME IN. BUT I AM ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TAKING STEPS WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION TO KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR BUSINESSES BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO AFFECT OUR RESTAURANT BUSINESSES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE MORE THAN IT IS. WE'RE NOT STOPPING PUBLIX FROM SELLING STRAWS. NO WE'RE NOT STOPPING AND WE'RE ENCOURAGING WITH SO PAPER STRAWS. WELL THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BAN WHICH IS THE WORD STOP VERSUS AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO INCLUDE IT AGAINST ALL OF

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THAT WORD SOMETIME. SO I ALSO BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THIS IS PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DISPOSE OF THEIR WASTE PROPERLY. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A BIGGER PICTURE ISSUE WITH OUR WASTE AND RECYCLING PROGRAM THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING ON IN OUR STATE ON WHICH I THINK HAS A BIGGER TIE INTO THE CONVERSATION THAN JUST WHETHER OR NOT OUR CITY IS GOING TO TELL BUSINESSES OUR SMALL MOM AND POP BUSINESSES THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE FORCE. THERE ARE SOME STRAWS THAT ARE ALSO RECYCLABLE THERE NUMBER FIVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I AM NOT FOR A BAILOUT SAYING THAT I WANT TO HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDE US WITH WORDING FOR A BAND CAN I ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY THE CHAIR TO PROVIDE SOME COMMENTARY ON WHEN A BAND USUALLY TAKES PLACE. USUALLY THERE'S A TRANSITION PERIOD AS A NOTIFICATION PERIOD. OBVIOUSLY RESTAURANTS AND DIFFERENT FACILITIES HAVE THEIR SUPPLY SO YOU GIVE THEM TIME TO WE CAN DECIDE TO GIVE THEM TIME TO DRAW IT DOWN. AND THEN AS OF X DATE YOU SHOULD START USING SOME ALTERNATIVE. CAN YOU GIVE SOME COMMENTARY ON THAT. JUST VERY BRIEFLY AGAIN AND AGAIN AGAINST THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO IT AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS COMMENTS THERE WAS A BILL THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE LEGISLATURE IN THE MOST RECENT LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO PREEMPT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LEGAL AUTHORITY TO REGULATE PLASTIC AND STRAWS IN PARTICULAR THAT WAS VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR. SO THE ISSUE LIES WITH WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OR CITIES IN GENERAL. THE COMMISSIONER IS CORRECT IN THAT TO THE EXTENT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO REGULATE SOMETHING IT'S WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW TO PROVIDE A GRACE PERIOD OR AN IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD THAT WOULD GIVE BUSINESSES AN OPPORTUNITY TO PHASE IN A CERTAIN RESTRICTION OR LIMITATION BUT THAT'S THE ORDINANCE COULD THEORETICALLY OR AN ORDINANCE COULD THEORETICALLY BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY OR COULD BE EFFECTIVE SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD AND THERE COULD BE AN IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD. BUT YOU ALL CAN DECIDE HOW THAT IMPLEMENTATION WOULD ULTIMATELY WORK. AND THERE ALSO IS THE EFFECT ON OUR RESIDENTS OR OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING INTO OUR CITY AND UTILIZING OR WISHING TO PURCHASE THEM INTO TRICKLE DOWN THEORY. THIS STRIKE COST MORE OR USE. WILL THEY BE COMING TO THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY KIND OF RESEARCH THAT WOULD SHOW HOW IT WOULD AFFECT OUR BUSINESS ANY KIND OF OPEN DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE WITH OUR RESIDENTS NOT ONLY ON WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE A BAN OR NOT BUT ALSO FOR DISCUSSION ON OUR BUSINESSES AND HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEM AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WILL BE AN EFFECT ON THOSE PEOPLE COME TO THE BUSINESS FROM THERE. BLESS YOU. I KNOW COMMISSIONER FISHMAN BLESS YOU. MR. FISHMAN HAS HER COMMENT ON ADOPTION. CAN YOU COME ON OTHER CITIES LIKE A THAT HAVE ADOPTED A SIMILAR ORDINANCE BANNING STRONG PLASTIC STRAWS. THERE ARE SEVERAL I'M AWARE OF. I WAS ACTUALLY NOT AWARE THAT A LOT OF OIL HAD ACTUALLY ADOPTED SOMETHING I KNOW THEY TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST I BELIEVE THAT SAID DELRAY BEACH HAD ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE SIX MONTHS AGO ROUND NUMBERS. IT'S BEEN A HOT TOPIC AT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THE BROWARD LEAGUE OF CITIES AS WELL. I KNOW THAT MANY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WERE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE WOULD DO IF ANYTHING AND WE'VE NOW SEEN THAT PLAY OUT TO THE MAYORS QUESTION WE HAVE NOT GONE TO ANY RESEARCH. AND FRANKLY WE HAVEN'T INCURRED THE. AND THE CITIES MONEY AND OUR TIME GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT ANY DIRECTION FROM THIS COMMISSION THE MAIN LEGAL PERSPECTIVE IT'S A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD ISSUE. NOW GIVEN THE LEGISLATORS ACTION OR THE GOVERNOR'S LACK THEREOF BUT YOU MAY AND AGAIN TO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT WANT TO HAVE YOUR STAFF GO THROUGH THE CHAMBER COMMERCE OR THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT SPEAK SOME LOCAL BUSINESSES TO GET THEIR INPUT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS BE WORKABLE. BUT FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE I WOULD DEFER TO THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF OF THE CITY THANK YOU. MR. FISHMAN I TOO WAS VERY GLAD THAT THE GOVERNOR VETOED THAT BILL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING FROM STAFF SHOWING SOME TYPE OF ANALYSIS ON THE EFFECT IT'S HAD IN OTHER CITIES BUSINESSES. I I'M SURE THAT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF ANALYSIS ON THIS ON THIS ISSUE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US AT LEAST LOOK FURTHER INTO IT. WHAT KIND OF COST ANALYSIS THAT IS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND POSSIBLY LOOK AT LANGUAGE TO TO DO A BAN. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. ACTUALLY I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THE GOVT NOR DID THE VETO AS WELL GIVING US AND KEEPING US OUR OWN HOMEWORLD BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT I SAW. FOR THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR

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OUR HOME RULE AS FAR AS LOOKING INTO IT. I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT I WILL ASK THAT WHEN OUR STAFF IS LOOKING INTO THIS IT BE KEPT IN MIND WE ARE NOT FOR A LOT OF DOUBT. WE ARE NOT THE BEACH. YES WE HAVE THE EVERGLADES. YES WE HAVE OUR CANALS. YES WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE WATER SUPPLIES THAT WE HAVE HERE. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED ON AN APPLES TO APPLES TYPE SITUATION AND I WOULD SAY KEEPING OUR FOOD FIJI APPLES AND WASHING APPLES SEPARATED. IT NEEDS TO BE. WHAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR CITY AND KEEPING IN MIND WHAT WE'RE ASKING BECAUSE NOT ONLY WHEN YOU DISCUSS A BAN YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENFORCEMENT. SO MAYBE WHEN OUR STAFF IS HAVING THIS ANALYZED AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING THE CHAMBER INVOLVED AND HAVING THE CHAMBER ASSIST US AS THEY ARE DEALING WITH BUSINESSES WHAT MIGHT BE THE ALTERNATIVE TO NECESSARILY A BAN. WHAT KIND OF PROGRAM OR PROCESS CAN BE PUT IN PLACE TO MAKE THE GOAL WHICH IS FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT TO BE REACHED AND NOT BE BURDENSOME ON THE SMALL POPULATION WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY A LARGER PART OF THE NOT NECESSARILY A PROBLEM BUT THEN AGAIN PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO LITTER IN OUR CITIES.

THAT IS A PROBLEM. PEOPLE DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN SELVES IS A PROBLEM BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE THE BURDEN OF NECESSARILY THE OTHER BUSINESSES FOR THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF SOMETHING LOOKED INTO I'M GOING TO VICE MAYOR. THANK YOU. I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON IT.

FOR INSTANCE ASIDE FROM THE STRAWS WHAT WILL I'M GOING TO USE TODAY AS AN EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW LUNCH BE PACKED IN. WHAT TYPE OF CONTAINER WOULD NEED TO BE USED. I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA. SO YOU KNOW I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THIS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE BUSINESSES OBVIOUSLY SOME LEAD TIME TO CONFORM TO WHATEVER WAS DECIDE. BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IS AVAILABLE ASIDE FROM WHAT CURRENTLY IS BEING USED FOR OUR BUSINESSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THAT IS NEEDED ON THIS PARTICULAR CIVIC TOPIC. SO I MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS REGARDING COSTS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. PAPER STRAWS COSTS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF CENTS MORE THAN PLASTIC STRAWS. STARBUCKS IS ONE OF MANY COMPANIES THAT RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT IT WILL PHASE OUT PLASTIC STRAWS ENTIRELY AS WELL AS A COMPANY NAMED APATHY APPETIT MANAGEMENT COMPANY AND FOOD SERVICE MANAGER COMPANY THAT SERVICES ABOUT A THOUSAND LOCATIONS RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THEY WOULD STOP USING PLASTIC STRAWS AND FACILITIES THAT IT MANAGES. SO THIS IS YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT NEW. ALL THIS IS JULY 2013 CNBC. THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD BE MOVING. AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT THE SIZE OF FORT LAUDERDALE WE STILL HAVE BUSINESSES HERE AND WE HAVE CUSTOMERS HERE WHO ARE ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE US PUT FORTH THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE. JUST ONE QUICK WAY. IT'S JUST A MATTER PROCESS. MAYOR IF I MAY BECAUSE THIS ITEM IS AN ITEM INITIATED BY THE COMMISSIONER AS OPPOSED TO THE PRIOR ITEM THE BOARD'S ITEM WHICH WAS DRIVEN BY SAFF AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT TO THE EXTENT THE COMMISSION WOULD SORT TO PROVIDE DIRECTION THAT IT COME ON WEDNESDAY'S MEETING. THERE WAS A MOTION THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME FORMAL DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE LAST ITEM ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS INITIATED BY STAFF AND IT REALLY WILL COME BACK TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF IN THAT CONTEXT BECAUSE THIS IS SPECIFIC THE COMMISSIONERS ITEM I WOULD JUST ASK THE ITEM TO THE EXTENT THEY WANT TO BRING IT UP ON WEDNESDAY THAT IT COME BACK IN THERE BE SOME MOTION TO PURSUE WHATEVER DIRECTION THE COMMISSION WANT TO SEEK. THANK YOU WITH THE MIKES MIKE'S TIRED. SO BASICALLY YES THANK YOU. AND AGAIN COMMISSIONER IT WAS NOT TO SAY THIS ISN'T A GOOD IDEA BUT TO GET A MORE INCLUSIVE BETTER LOOK BEFORE WE JUST DO A KNEE JERK REACTION SAY BAN LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WE'LL BRING IT UP ON WEDNESDAY YET WEDNESDAY. AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS THERE ANY COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN. NO I'M SORRY. ANOTHER ITEM THAT WAS D THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND WE CAN NOW LOOK AT IT AGAIN SINCE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS OVER. I WOULD LIKE US TO AT A FUTURE MEETING LOOK AT MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES WE BANNED IT WHEN THAT WAS FIRST COMING UP AND THE DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE HAD NOW THAT WE'RE THREE YEARS INTO IT AND WE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT. JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR A RENEWED

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DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC NOT ASKING FOR HIS POSITION POSITION EITHER WAY JUST FIGURING OUT WHERE WE STAND THREE YEARS LATER SUBSIDIES ATTORNEY CITY MANAGER IF YOU WOULD AT A FUTURE WORKSHOP PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH AN UPDATE ON THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISCUSSION AND DISPENSARIES NOW SEEING THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS AT THE READY GET SET. IT'S FOR 24 THIS COMMISSION MEETING IS ADJOURNED SEE YOU ON WEDNESDAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY FOR YOUR PATIENTS.



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