[1. Vet Connect Presentation]
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          RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS BUT AT LEAST YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THAT YOU KNOW THIS IS A KICKSTARTER. AND FINALLY WHAT WOULD BE THE FISCAL IMPACT RELATIVE TO ANY PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD HAVE WITH FISCAL IMPACT TO THE CITY RELATIVE TO OUR PARTNERSHIP. SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY. THE FOUNDATION IS 100 PERCENT VOLUNTEER. EVERY DONATION THAT WE DO GET. I MEAN WE WELCOME ANY DONATION OR GRANT OPPORTUNITY THERE. BUT ANYTHING THAT WE DO THOUGH GOES DIRECTLY TO PROGRAMS AND SERVICES SO WE CAN. WE DO CURRENTLY EAT UP THE COST OF ALL OF THAT. AND WE LOOK FOR PRIVATE FUNDERS TO KEEP US ROLLING OVER THERE RIGHT NOW IT WOULDN'T COST ANYTHING FOR US TO PARTNER TOGETHER EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS WE GIVE FREELY TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO IT WOULD JUST BE YOUR SUPPORT. YOU KEEPING IT IN THE FRONT OF YOUR FIRST RESPONDERS MINE TO CONTINUALLY USE THE APP. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO WE ARE ACTUALLY ALSO FORMULATING A SMALL TEAM THAT ARE GONNA BE WEARING A VET CONNECT SHIRT AND HAVE THESE PENS THAT WE HAD PRINTED UP AND VISITING THE FIRE STATIONS AND THE POLICE STATIONS JUST REMINDING EVERYBODY TO USE IT BUT THAT THAT'S ALL. 
          WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING IN RETURN AND ARE YOU FIVE ONE THREE. YES SIR. OK. 
          SO AT SOME POINT I'D ASK THROUGH THE CHAIR THAT WE PLACED YOU ON OUR. CHARITIES LIST SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SOLICIT DONATIONS FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION AND ALSO THAT WOULD GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO MAKE A DONATION TO YOU AS WELL BECAUSE I STILL HAVE MONEY IN MY CHARITY ITS COFFERS THAT I CAN GIVE TO YOUR ORGANIZATION. SO AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME WE WOULD PERHAPS ADD YOU TO THAT SOONER THAN YOU CAN SEEING THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR TO MOVE FORWARD PLEASE MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK MR. MASON IF YOU CAN PUT THE CHARITY ON OUR LIST FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR OUR CHARITIES THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DONATE TO FROM THE CITY. THANK YOU. THAT'S A RESOLUTION AS YOU KNOW. YES. WE SHOULD SIMPLY ADD TO THAT THE CO SPONSORSHIP OPTION UNDER THE COUNTY ETHICS CODE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US. I JUST HAVE A SMALL COMMENT. THOSE LITTLE CARDS THAT I GAVE YOU WITH THE CO-CHAIR WE ALSO PROVIDE THOSE FREE ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO ALL MUNICIPALITIES IF YOU'D LIKE THEM IT'S FOR ANYBODY LIVING WITH POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS NOT JUST MILITARY. IT'S A SIMPLE SYSTEM. LET'S SAY IF SOMEBODY BECOMES TRIGGERED THEY SIMPLY SAY TO THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY CODE YELLOW I'M BECOMING ANXIOUS AND ANGRY I NEED TO GO HOME I NEED TO REGROUP GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE DON'T YOU CAN'T GET MAD YOU CAN'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY YOU CAN'T ASK ME WHY. JUST LET ME YOU KNOW CALM DOWN AND BREATHE. BUT THEN I ALSO TELL THE FRIENDS AND FAMILIES IF THEY ARE TAKING LONGER THAN NORMAL IN CODE YELLOW THAT COULD LEAD TO CODE RED WHEN THEY START DISCONNECTING FROM LIFE WHICH CAN ALSO LEAD TO SUICIDE. SO THAT'S WHEN YOU NEED TO KNOW IF IT'S A VETERAN YOU NEED TO KNOW WHO THEIR LOCAL VETERAN IS AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT. 
          BUILDING LOCAL COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED PEOPLE NOT A PHONE CALL NOT A TEXT. 
          THEY NEED PEOPLE THEY NEED THAT CONTACT. SO YOU KNOW WHATEVER THE TRAUMA THAT THAT PERSON IS WITH WHAT IS YOU KNOW WHO IS THERE A PEER THAT WENT THROUGH THAT SAME TRAUMA AND THEN CODE GREEN IS EVERYTHING IS OK BUT WE PROVIDE THOSE FREE AND IT'S A NICE LITTLE TOOL EVEN WHEN YOU'RE MEETING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE FAMILIES YOU KNOW A LITTLE OF SOMETHING YOU KNOW AND IT TAKES THE PRESSURE OFF THE ONES SUFFERING WITH POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ACTUALLY YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE ORGANIZATION ALREADY FLORIDA INITIATIVE ON SUICIDE PREVENTION I ASK. YEAH. SO THANK YOU. BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU SHARE INFORMATION THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC WHICH IS VERY MUCH NEEDED AND AGAIN THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE'RE AVAILABLE IF YOU NEED SOME CONTACT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          MOVING ALONG TO NUMBER TWO OUR PRESENTATION FOUR WORDS BRING SWEETS. 
          [2. Presentation - Woodsprings Suites Public Art Easement]
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PUBLIC ART EASEMENT ELEMENT MAXINE. DIRECTOR MAXINE KELLY DOING THAT OR NO MADAM MADAM HERE WE ARE. AS YOU KNOW BETH RAVITZ AND GEORGE GADSON ARE OUR ROCK ART CONSULTANTS. THEY WERE SCHEDULED TO BE WITH US THIS MORNING HOWEVER. APPARENTLY THEY WERE ON A FLIGHT FROM SOMEWHERE YESTERDAY THAT WAS DELAYED AND SO THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE THIS MORNING. SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT WORKSHOP. WELL THAT ONE WAS EASY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG TO DISCUSSION ON DEBT 
          [3. Discussion on Debt Policy]
POLICY FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR MARK MASON MAYOR BLOOMBERG MAY SOME FINANCIAL SERVICE RECORD. CHRISTINE IS YOUTH ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FINANCIAL BROUGHT CHRISTINE UP BECAUSE SHE'S AS WELL VERSED IN THIS AS I AM. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU SHOULD HEAR FROM HER THOUGH DON'T YOU THINK. I THINK SO. THE PRIMARILY THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS AS I RECALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO STRUGGLE AND IMPEACHMENT WENT TO AN EMAIL CLASS THE ADVANCE DEMO CLASS AND THERE WAS A QUESTION REGARDING THAT MANAGEMENT POLICY STUDY AND OR DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICIES AND COMMISSIONER. I DID NOT KNOW AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON. HE WAS HE WAS A LATE EDITION AND SO WE FIGURED THAT WE'VE ISSUED DEBT HERE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND PROBABLY HAVE GOOD IDEAS AS TO KIND OF GO OVER THIS WITH YOU AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE AND WE DO HAVE A DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY. WE'VE HAD ONE SINCE 2003 AND IT'S A IT'S A GOOD DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY WE'VE FOLLOWED GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION GUIDELINES FOR BUILDING DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY BUT AS A TOY YOU BUT AS YOU KNOW AN IDEA WOULD BE JUST KIND OF GO OVER THIS AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO AND WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO WHERE WE DO. SO. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT PUBLIC DEBT MANAGEMENT IS THAT YOU KNOW IT'S A FRAMEWORK IT'S A SYSTEM IT'S A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS US TO YOU KNOW PROVIDE FUNDING IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR OWN RISK AND WHAT OUR COST OBJECTIVES AND OUR DEBT MANAGEMENT GOALS ARE AND SO I THINK CHRISTINE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS GROUPS AND THE LAWS GOVERNING OUR DEBT ISSUANCE. AND THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT OUR POLICY. SO OUR OUR GUIDANCE FOR DEBT MANAGEMENT OUR DEBT ISSUANCE IS LISTED BEFORE YOU THE FIRST WE HAVE IS THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION THE S.E.C. THEIR OFFICE ADMINISTERS THE SECURITY COORDINATES MUNICIPAL SECURITIES ISSUES AND ACTIVITIES AND THE COMMISSION ADMINISTERS THE COMMISSION RULES THE PERTAINING TO MUNICIPAL SECURITY BROKERS THEIR DEALERS THE ADVISORS THE INVESTORS AND OF COURSE US IS YOURS AS HE CONTROLS THE MSR B WHICH IS THE MUNICIPAL SECURITIES RULEMAKING BOARD AND S.E.C. RULES 15 C TWO DASH TWELVE DETAILED SEVERAL RULES THAT MUNICIPALITIES NEED TO FOLLOW WHEN THEY GET ENGAGED IN THEIR OFFERINGS. THE RULE DEFINES THE INSTRUMENTS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO ISSUE AND THE NASD INFORMATION TO EMMA WHICH IS THE ELECTRONIC MUNICIPAL MARKET ACCESS WEBSITE WHICH HOUSES ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE DEBT THE THE IRS INFORMATION EVENT NOTICES AND ALL THE CONTINUING DISCLOSURES THAT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT AFTER THE DEBT HAS BEEN ISSUED AS FAR AS FERTILIZER CONCERN FOR THE LAW. CHAPTER 215 SET CERTAIN RULES REGARDING BOND FINANCING AND THEY ARE ENFORCED MAINLY THROUGH THE DIVISION OF BOND FINANCING AND THE AUDITOR GENERAL AS FAR AS THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BOARD IS CONCERNED GATSBY YES HE HAS ISSUED SEVERAL RULES REGARDING THE ACCOUNTING FOR LIABILITIES BONDS AND NOTES. REFERRED TO AS LONG TERM DEBT THEY ARE LIABILITIES AND GATSBY HAS SEVERAL STANDARDS ALL THE WAY FROM GATSBY ONE ALL THE WAY TO GATSBY EIGHTY EIGHT WHICH IS THE LATEST ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT CERTAIN DISCLOSURES RELATING TO THAT WE ALSO HAVE JEFF AWAY WHICH IS THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICE ASSOCIATION THAT HAS ISSUED EXTENSIVE BEST PRACTICES REGARDING DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY IS RECOMMENDING CONSIDERATIONS FOR DEBT LIMITS THAT STRUCTURES THAT IS ONE PRACTICES AND THAT MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AS WELL. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE YOU KNOW OUR CHARTER WE HAVE OUR ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTION SO 
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
          WELL WE ISSUED DEBT TO ACQUIRE AND CONSTRUCT ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE DIRECTLY OUT OF OUR DEBT POLICY AND IN MAKING ANY MAJOR RENOVATIONS TO ANY EXISTING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND OF COURSE REFUNDING ANY EXISTING DEBT OR SAVINGS ALL OF WHICH WE'VE DONE HERE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS THE OUR DEBT POLICY HAS A NUMBER OF SECTIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN IT CONSIDERATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH PRIOR TO ISSUANCE I MEAN WHAT DO WE LOOK AT WHEN WE ISSUED DEBT YOU KNOW WE LOOK AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE'LL GET THE FINANCIAL ENVIRONMENT WE LOOK AT INTEREST RATES INTEREST RATE RISK YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE THE RISK OF INTEREST RATES GOING UP BEFORE WE ACTUALLY ISSUE THE DEBT. THE OTHER ECONOMIC FACTORS THAT WE WOULD ALSO LOOK AT THE CITY'S CASH POSITION OUR DEBT POSITION HOW MUCH DEBT THAT WE ALREADY CURRENTLY HAVE OUTSTANDING WHAT ARE WE CURRENTLY PAYING FOR AND CAN WE PAY IT BACK. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THE THE ABILITY TO PAY BACK SOME OF THE TYPES OF DEBT THAT WE ISSUED. TO HERE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS ARE OUR FUNDS THAT ARE PAID BACK WITH TAX AXES SO TAX SUPPORTED DEBT OR WE HAVE REVENUE BONDS THAT IS SUPPORTED BY SPECIFIC REVENUE OR COVENANT TO BUDGET IN APPROPRIATE ACROSS ALL REVENUE TYPES WITH THE CITY. THAT'S THAT'S NOT RESTRICTED FOR OTHER USES. MASTER LEASE AGREEMENTS WE'VE ISSUED THAT HERE NUMEROUS YEARS AGO ACTUALLY EIGHT YEARS AGO WE ISSUED A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT TO USE AMBULANCES AND IT HAS WORKED OUT VERY WELL FOR US. WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE ALL OF OUR AMBULANCES AND SET UP A PROGRAM WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY BUY THEM WITH CASH NOW AS OPPOSED TO ISSUING DEBT. THE FUTURE WAS A TIMING ISSUE COMING OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION THAT REALLY ALLOWED US TO ISSUE THAT THE MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT AT A VERY VERY VERY LOW INTEREST RATE. AT THE TIME SO I THINK WE WERE ISSUING ABOUT THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR EACH AMBULANCE AND PAYING ABOUT TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN INTEREST THERE ABOUT. SO IT WAS A GOOD DEAL AT THE TIME. PULLED FINANCING PULLED FINANCING AS IS THE ABILITY TO USE. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE OF POOLS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THERE'S THE COUNTY'S POOL THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BORROW OFF OF THE COUNTIES. IT'S A IT'S A LARGE POOL THAT YOU CAN GET IN A FAIRLY DECENT RATE WHEN THE TIMING IS RIGHT. SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. AND I DON'T NECESSARILY RECOMMEND PULLED FINANCING IT'S ONE OF THE LAST RESORTS FOR ME BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT YOU END UP HAVING TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET THE DEBT THAN YOU WOULD IF WE ISSUED IT ON OUR OWN ON OUR OWN RATES. 
          AND OF COURSE WE HAVE REFINANCING AND OUR CURRENT OR ADVANCED RE FUNDINGS WHICH ADVANCED RE FUNDINGS ARE LITERALLY NO LONGER ALLOWED. THAT CAME OUT OF THE TAX CUT AND JOBS ACT WHERE THEY WON'T ALLOW ADVANCED REFUNDING THAT IN THE FIRST 10 YEARS. SO THE SOME ADDITIONAL TYPES OF WORK. ALL RIGHT. WE ALSO DO A SHORT TERM DEBT IF NECESSARY LINES OF CREDIT THE WE CAN DO OTHERS BUT THERE'S NO REAL REASON FOR DOING THEM TODAY. BUT A LINE OF CREDIT WE HAVE A CURRENT LINE OF CREDIT THAT'S OUTSTANDING THAT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FOR TAMARACK VILLAGE. AND SO THAT MEANT THAT ONE WE'VE ACTUALLY ROLLED OVER ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AT VERY LOW INTEREST RATES. BUT IT'S CERTAINLY AS A LINE OF CREDIT THAT IS SITTING OUT THERE TODAY INTER FUND BORROWING INTO FUND BORROWING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I TAKE LIGHTLY BUT I DO UTILIZE INTER FUND INTERNAL INTERIM FINANCING WHICH IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN USE IT IN PLACE OF ACTUALLY GOING OUT THERE AND ISSUING LONG TERM DEBT AND PAYING INTEREST UPFRONT. YOU DO THIS INTERNAL INTERIM FINANCING BASED ON UTILIZING EXISTING RESOURCES. AND THEN ONCE THE PROJECT'S BEEN BUILT YOU KNOW 
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EXACTLY HOW MUCH YOU NEED TO BORROW. AND YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WASTE A LOT OF COST FOR THAT PARTICULAR BORROWING AT THE TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE A FINANCING TEAM THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE BOND IN THE FINANCING TEAM WE HAVE A FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT'S THE PERSON THAT'S REALLY THE GO BETWEEN WITH EVERYBODY ELSE YOU KNOW THERE AND YOU KNOW OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL ADVISORS JEFF LARSON LARSON CONSULTING HAS BEEN FOR NUMEROUS YEARS A BOND COUNSEL DISCLOSURE COUNSEL DISCLOSURE COUNSELS. WHEN WE'RE ISSUING A LARGER BOND AND WE HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER THESE NICE DOCUMENTS THAT TELLS THE WORLD ABOUT THE CITY. AND THEN OF COURSE IT'S ALSO THE SAME DOCUMENT THAT THAT WE HAVE TO UTILIZE AND DISCLOSURE MANAGEMENT AFTER THAT. SO WHATEVER WE PUT IN THAT DOCUMENT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DISCLOSE EVERY SINGLE YEAR THAT THE BOND IS OUTSTANDING UNDERWRITERS CLEARLY WOULD GO OUT FOR A FEE ON UNDERWRITERS AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE CITY STAFF AS WELL AS OUR OWN CITY ATTORNEY WHO HAS SIGNED OFF ON SOME DOCUMENTS AND SAYING NICE THINGS ABOUT CITY AS WELL. ONLY IF THEY'RE TRUE ONLY IF THEY'RE TRUE. AND SO WE HAVE METHODS OF SALE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF METHODS SALES WE HAVE NEGOTIATED SALES WHICH WE DO PREDOMINANTLY WE HAVE COMPETITIVE SALES AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PRIVATE PLACEMENTS POST ISSUANCE AS CHRISTINE WENT THROUGH PERIOD. BRIEFLY SECURITIES AND CHAIN EXCHANGE COMMISSIONS 15 C TO 212 REQUIREMENTS FOR CONTINGENT CONTINUING DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE ARBITRAGE LIABILITY MANAGEMENT AND ARBITRAGE IS WHEN YOU ISSUE DEBT AND YOU DON'T SPEND ALL THE MONEY IN A REQUIRED PERIOD OF TIME AND YOU CONTINUE TO EARN INTEREST ON THE ON THE BOND PROCEEDS AND IF THE EARNINGS ON THE BOND PROCEEDS EXCEED WHAT YOU'RE PAYING IN ACTUAL INTEREST RATES THEN THERE'S AN ARBITRAGE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON WHATEVER THAT DIFFERENCE IS. IT'S ON A FIVE YEAR INCREMENT SO YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY ACCUMULATE THIS STUFF FOR QUITE A PERIOD OF TIME. BUT IN ANY EVENT WE HAVEN'T HAD TO PAY ANY ARBITRAGE HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE'VE EXPANDED OUR DEBT SO WE'RE DOING OK WITH THAT AND THEN WE DO HAVE POLICY MODIFICATION AND IN TIME WE DO IT YOU DO A POLICY MODIFICATION I WOULD BRING IT BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION AND I DO REVIEW IT ANNUALLY AS PART OF OUR POLICY BUT WE HAVE SUCH A GOOD POLICY IN PLACE. I REALLY HAVEN'T HAD TO MAKE ANY CHANGES. SO JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSION WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEBTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUTSTANDING. THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REVENUE BONDS THAT WE ISSUED FOR STATION THIRTY SIX AND NUMEROUS WALLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE ALSO HAVE A WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY BOND THAT WE ISSUED IN 2016 WHICH WAS ALSO REFUNDING EXISTING DEBT. THAT WAS THE I AND I WORK THAT WE DID AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WE HAVE THE TAX REDEVELOPMENT REVENUE NOTE SHARES 2017 THAT'S THE LINE OF CREDIT. WE ALSO HAVE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDING SERIES 2013 AND ANOTHER TWO THAT ARE ALL REFUNDING BONDS A REFUND THE DEBT AND TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EXISTING RESOURCES AND SAVINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKELY RECEIVE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. AND WE ALSO HAVE A CAPITAL LEASE FOR THE AMBULANCES. THOSE ARE THOSE WILL ACTUALLY FALL OFF IN A COUPLE YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE PURCHASED ALL THE AMBULANCES AND THEN THE NEXT SET OF PURCHASES WILL ACTUALLY BE PAYING CASH. 
          WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB MAKING SURE THAT CASH IS AVAILABLE AND NOT HAVE TO BORROW MONEY. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN A YOU KNOW A RISING INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT ALTHOUGH YOU'VE SEEN MORTGAGE RATES COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR US. ARE OUR BORROWING RATES FOR CAPITAL LEASES WOULD BE IN THE 3 3 AND A HALF PERCENT RANGE NOW WHEREAS THEY WERE 1 PERCENT OR LESS WHEN WE DID THEM ABOUT 5 6 7 YEARS. SO IT WOULD NO REAL REASON TO HAVE TO ISSUE ISSUE DEBT TODAY SO DURING QUESTIONS. THANK YOU ALL FOR ASKING. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE NOW MOVING ALONG TO NUMBER FOUR 
          [4. TR 13269 Termination of Construction Agreement w/AD1 Group]
TIER 1 3 2 6 9 TERMINATION OF CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT WITH AIDING ONE GROUP AND THIS IS A CITY MANAGER AND FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. GENTLEMEN START YOUR ENGINES. 
          OKAY. SO MARK MASON FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR GOOD MORNING MY COMMISSIONER. I'M 
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SORRY MAYOR VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONERS. SO WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY. AND ONE OF THEM IS SETTLEMENT AND RELEASE AGREEMENT WITH ANYONE MANAGEMENT INC. I'LL GO THROUGH BRIEFLY AS WELL AS A RESOLUTION FOR THE AN ASSIGNMENT OF A CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMARACK THE MARKET GROUP LLC AND EIGHTY ONE HOTELS THE SETTLEMENT OR RELEASE AGREEMENT WITH 81. JUST A BRIEF HISTORY YOU KNOW KIND OF GET US WHERE WE ARE TODAY APRIL 12TH 2017 THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED A CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT WITH 81 MANAGEMENT TO SERVE AS BOTH A DEVELOPER AS WELL AS TO THE COLONY WEST SITE AND OVERSEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CARP CLUBHOUSE CART BARN PARKING AND ANY SITE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROJECT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. THIS WAS A RESULT OF THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WHEREBY WE SOLD A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES OF PROPERTY ON THE COLONY WEST SITE WHICH HAD THE OPTION IN THERE THAT FOR THEM OR THEM. 
          WHEN I SAY THEM THAT'S EIGHTY ONE GROUP TO ACTUALLY MANAGE THE ENTIRE PROJECT FOR US AND THIS WAS PRIMARILY DONE AT THE TIME TO GAIN SOME OF THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM HAVING ONE. ONE PROJECT MANAGER AS WELL AS ONE CONTRACTOR ON SITE DOING THE ENTIRE JOB THE AND SO THEY HAD THE OPTION OF EITHER DOING THAT AND UTILIZING THE SALE PROCEEDS AS A AS BASICALLY PUTTING IT TOWARDS THE PROJECT OR SIMPLY JUST PURCHASING THE PROPERTY AND GOING OFF AND BUILDING THEIR HOTEL AND THEN WE WOULD GO OFF AND WE WOULD DO OUR THING AND THEN WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS ON SITE WORKING AT THE SAME TIME AND THE SAME PLACE AND CAUSING A LOT OF GRIEF AT THE TIME SO THE FROM THE POINT IN APRIL 12 2017 AT THAT TIME THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE PROJECT WAS ABOUT SEVEN POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS IN APRIL TO THAT IN APRIL OF 2018. WE CAME BACK TO YOU BECAUSE AT THE TIME 81 WAS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF PUTTING OUT OUR FEES OR PROPOSALS FOR CONTRACTORS TO COME IN AND BUILD ALL OF THE THE CLUBHOUSE THE CARD BARN AND THE SITE IMPLEMENT IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS PARKING LOT AND THE ESTIMATES THAT WERE COMING BACK AT THAT TIME WERE ABOUT THREE THREE AND A HALF LITTLE OVER THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE AT THE TIME THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED AN ADDITIONAL BUDGET PROJECT FOR THE PROJECT BY THREE POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS BRINGING THE TOTAL BUDGET TO ELEVEN POINT ONE TO EIGHT MILLION A MAY TWENTY THIRD EIGHTY ONE MANAGEMENT MARKET GROUP AND ENTERED INTO A CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE CLERK CARD BARN PARKING SITE IMPROVEMENTS ETC. AND MARKER GROUPS GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AT THE TIME WAS EIGHT MILLION ONE HUNDRED NINETY THREE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY TWO DOLLARS AND THEN ABOUT FOUR MONTHS LATER IN AUGUST THREE MONTHS LATER IN AUGUST THEY STARTED WORK BY PUTTING UP CONSTRUCTION FENCING AND THEN OF COURSE YOU KNOW OFF THEY WENT AND THEN TODAY IN AND TODAY CLEARLY THERE THROUGH THE SECOND FLOOR BUILDING THEIR HOTEL WHERE THEY GOT THE SITING AND THE THE METAL UP FOR THE CARTOON BARN AND IN BETWEEN THAT TIME WHEN THEY STARTED THE CONSTRUCTION AROUND DECEMBER THEREABOUTS THEY MADE IT KNOWN TO US THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO NOT BE IN CHARGE OF BUILDING ALL OF IT AGAIN ALL OF IT AS WE WERE HAVING A FEW DISPUTES AT THE TIME THAT NEEDED TO BE RESOLVED. AND ONE OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS IS HERE TODAY TO TERMINATE THAT AGREEMENT AND SETTLE OUT WHATEVER OUR DIFFERENCES ARE. MOVE ON IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT 81 WON'T CONTINUE TO BUILD THEIR THEIR THEIR HOTEL. THE SAME CONTRACTOR MARKET GROUP IS UNDER CONTRACT FOR BOTH AND IT'S A. SO THEY HAVE A CONTRACT TO BUILD THEIR HOTEL AND PART OF THAT CONTRACT INCLUDES THEIR PORTION OF THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH I BELIEVE IS 32 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN OF COURSE THE REMAINDER OF IT BELONGS TO US AND THAT'S BUILT INTO THE OTHER MARKET CONTRACT WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ASSIGN TO US SO INCLUDED IN THE SETTLEMENT RELEASE IS TWO ASSIGNMENTS. THESE ARE THE TWO CONTRACTS THAT THEY HAVE 
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WITH THE MARKET GROUP AND WITH ENCODERS WHICH IS A LOW VOLTAGE ENGINEERS. THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACT WON'T BE COMING TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE RESOLUTION WE ALSO EVAN THERE. GIVE ME THE AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN ALL CONTRACTS TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE SOME POTENTIAL CHANGE ORDERS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE IN THE ASSIGNMENT. ALL OF THESE POTENTIAL CHANGE ORDERS. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE HAVING A AN IMPACT TO THE GROSS MAXIMUM PRICE IS ANYTIME YOU HAVE A GROSS MAXIMUM PRICE AND YOU GO OUT THERE AND AS AS THE ENGINEERS WHO ARE THE FOLKS THAT BUILD STUFF YOU JACK HAS TOLD ME THAT YOU KNOW YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU DO BUYOUTS THE BUYOUT AND YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE FOR A PARTICULAR LINE ITEM YOUR BUYOUT ACTUALLY COMES IN LESS. SO YOU HAVE SOME SAVINGS AND SO YOU MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND YOU KNOW YOU APPLY THOSE SAVINGS ALL IN THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROJECT AND YOU KNOW YOU STILL HOPEFULLY COME RIGHT OUT OF THE AT THE GROSS MAXIMUM PRICE SO ONE THING THAT WE'RE EXPECTING THAT YOU KNOW IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING ASSUMING THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVES THE ASSIGNMENT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT WE'LL SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE PRICE WITH WITH MARKER AGAIN TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT COMES IN WHERE WE EXPECT IT TO. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ACTUALLY SUMS UP WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE SETTLEMENT AND RELEASE AGREEMENT AND THE ASSIGNMENTS FOR BOTH OF THESE CONTRACT LIKE. DO YOU HAVE ANY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. I'M SURE THERE ARE QUESTIONS SO THAT WE'RE NOT SORRY I WASN'T ON. I SAID THERE'S NOBODY HAS FLIPPED ASKING THE QUESTIONS. WE'VE BEEN THOROUGHLY. WE'VE REVIEWED THE INFORMATION THOROUGHLY AND UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT THAT WAS GOING ON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. OK. THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST ONE ADDITIONAL COME INTO THE RECORD IF YOU WILL IN THE CONTEXT OF SEEKING VERIFICATION AND COMFORT WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL AS THE CHIEF LEGAL OFFICER FOR THE CITY WE DID ENGAGE THE LAW FIRM INCLUDING PETER BRANDT AND BOB FORENSIC TO LOOK AT THE ISSUES IN THE MATTERS WHICH WE DID JUSTIFY OTHER CONSTRUCTION LITIGATORS AND GIVE US THEIR INSIGHT AND DIRECTION TO ASSIST IN THE PREPARATION OF THE SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTS THE ASSIGNMENTS AND RELATED THAT YOU SEE IN THE PACKAGES TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOVING ON TO 
          [5. TO2391 - Comprehensive Procedures for City Commission Meetings]
TIER 2 3 9 1 COMPREHENSIVE PROCEDURES FOR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS AND THIS IS WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY STIMULUS GOREN AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CLINTON ANYMORE. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. MORNING WANT TO DEFER TO QUENTIN. THIS ITEM WAS ASKED BY THE COMMISSION TO BE PLACED BACK ON A WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR REVIEW AND WE HAVE DONE SO WITH THE CONDITIONS REQUEST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND THEN RESPOND TO QUESTIONS OR COMMISSION MAY HAVE A DOCUMENT BEFORE YOU IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THAT WHICH WAS INITIALLY DRAFTED AND I THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING AGAIN. AS YOU MAY RECALL THIS ITEM WAS ON THE APRIL 10TH AGENDA FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AT FIRST READING. THE DISCUSSION LED TO TABLING OF THE MATTER FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS FOR ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WERE TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT FIRST READING. AT THIS POINT I'M READY TO ENGAGE YOU ALL TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES ISSUES DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ABOUT THE ORDINANCE. ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS. I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE THE PLACEMENT OF CERTAIN ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND THE TIMING OF IT. FOR EXAMPLE THE COMMISSION REPORT SO I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING. SO I'M HERE TO LISTEN TAKE NOTES AND MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT ARE AGREED UPON FOR MOVING FORWARD FOR FIRST READING AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          WE HAVE STARTED GOING THROUGH THIS. COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS REGARDING LANGUAGE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT AFFECT THE AFFECTED BY A LAWSUIT THAT HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. CAN YOU CONFIRM EITHER. I THINK I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THE CASE INVOLVED THE GENTLEMAN UP IN THE CITY OF RIVIERA BEACH. JUST BRIEFLY THE FACTS INVOLVED HIM BEING REMOVED FROM A MEETING AND HE HAS IN THE PAST HAD SEVERAL LAWSUITS AGAINST THE CITY SO HE ALLEGED CERTAIN THINGS SUCH AS CONSPIRACY 
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AGAINST HIM AND VIOLATION OF HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. SO THE ORDINANCE WAS REVIEWED TO TO THAT POINT. AND THERE'S NO FACIALLY DISCRIMINATORY PROVISIONS SET FORTH IN THE ORDINANCE. AS I EXPLAINED BEFORE TO TO COMMISSIONER BOLTON FACT SCENARIOS MAY CHANGE THAT AND THEY WILL IT'LL BE AN AS APPLIED CHALLENGE AS TO WHETHER SPECIFIC FACTS AT A SPECIFIC MEETING TOOK PLACE THAT CREATED DISCRIMINATORY OR A VIOLATION OF FIRST AMENDMENT OR ANY OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. BUT AS FAR AS THE TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE THE ORDINANCE IS IS CONTENT NEUTRAL AS FAR AS THE REMOVAL PROCEDURES AND THERE'S NO DISCRIMINATORY IMPACT THAT WE CAN TELL YOU TODAY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A FACT SCENARIO WHICH HASN'T OCCURRED. SO BASICALLY THE CONCERNS ARE QUELLED. WE'RE NOT. AH WELL I'M NOT SURE. 
          I WON'T I WON'T SPEAK FOR THEM BUT I'M ALWAYS. WE SPOKE VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE CASE. BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE ORDINANCE RISES TO THE LEVEL OF BEING DISCRIMINATORY ON ITS FACE. SO BASICALLY THEN REPHRASE THAT. CONCERNS ARE ACQUIRED AS FAR AS THE LEGAL PARAMETERS FOR HOW LEGAL FIELDS THAT THIS ORDINANCE AND TO PROTECT OUR CITY MADAM MAYOR IF I CAN RESPOND QUICKLY. THE CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON EXPRESSED FEAR ABOUT OTHER PARTS OF THE ORDERS THAT WERE NOT BEING CHANGED BY THE PROPOSAL. WE LOOKED AT THE POLITICO THE LOMAN CASE IT WAS FINE IF A ANY LOW EASEMENT ALLOWS THE M.A. AND VERSUS THE CITY RIVIERA BEACH IT WAS A FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT CASE DECIDED IN AUGUST OF 2014 THE CASE WAS APPEALED FURTHER AND EVENTUALLY THE SUPREME COURT THIS PAST YEAR AND IN JULY I BELIEVE OR JUNE JUNE 28 I BELIEVE ISSUED AN ORDER REMANDING THE CASE BACK TO THE LOCAL DISTRICT COURT. WITH RESPECT TO THAT CASE AND HOW IT AFFECTS THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AND THE REMOVAL OF MR. LOHMAN FROM THE HEARING THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T RISE TO THAT LEVEL OF DISCRIMINATORY IMPACT. AND THE COURT HASN'T SAID THEIR ORDINANCE WAS DISCRIMINATORY. IT WAS THE ACTION OF THE COMMISSION IS BEING ALLEGED TO BE DISCRIMINATORY NOT THE NOT THE CODE ITSELF. OK IN THAT CASE AGAINST MR. LOZANO RIGHT. CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. OK. COMMISSIONER BOLTON DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR CHANGE ON THAT TOPIC. OKAY GREAT. AND BY THE WAY WE APPRECIATE THE EXCHANGE WITH THE COMMISSIONER BECAUSE HE WAS RIGHT. HE RAISED THE CORRECT ISSUE THAT WITH THERE IS A CASE OUT THERE THAT DEALS WITH REMOVING A PERSON FROM A PUBLIC MEETING. 
          WE ADDRESSED IT IN THE BEST WAY WE COULD AND DID NOT SET IT ASIDE AS BEING UNIMPORTANT IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT REQUIRED SOME REVIEW. WE DID THAT REVIEW WITH HIS ASSISTANCE DID SO IN A WAY TO TRY TO JUST GO THROUGH THIS SYSTEMATICALLY AND IN AN ORGANIZED FASHION WITH MY COLLEAGUES. I AM GOING TO JUST GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE ITEMS THAT ARE SUGGESTED FOR CHANGE AND TRY TO GET A CONSENSUS ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY AGREE. KEEPING IN MIND THAT EVEN IF WE HAVE CHANGES THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW SOME OF THE CHANGES WERE REQUESTED. IF IT WINDS UP BEING THAT NONE OF THE CHANGES REQUESTED ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO FORWARD WE CAN THEN CONSIDER PULLING THE ITEM IF IT'S NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD OR NOT. IF THERE'S NO CHANGES TO BE MADE. AND IF I MAY ADD ONE OTHER POINT. IF THERE ARE CHANGES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MADE IN THE ORDINANCE AND YOU WANT TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT ITEMS LIKE COMMISSIONER BOLTON ADDRESSED A DIFFERENT SUBJECT THAT WASN'T A PART OF THE CHANGES. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR TO DO SO. I APPRECIATE THAT BUT I WILL ALSO ASK THIS IF POSSIBLE I HAVE MY COLLEAGUES SINCE IT'S TAKEN SO LONG TO GET TO THIS PART. IF WE MAY FINISH THIS PART AND THEN THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES FOR REQUEST LET'S WORKSHOP THOSE AT ANOTHER TIME OR WE WILL NEVER FINISH ONE TOPIC AT HAND. SO THAT IS MY REQUEST TO MY COLLEAGUES. SO THE FIRST ITEM AND AGAIN THIS CAME ABOUT DUE TO HAVING SO MANY PROCLAMATIONS BEING REQUESTED TIMING OF THEM BEING REQUESTED. SOME OF OUR MEETINGS NOT BEING ABLE TO GET TO THE MEAT OF SOME CITY BUSINESS. NOT SAYING THAT PROCLAMATIONS AREN'T IMPORTANT OR REPORTS AREN'T IMPORTANT BUT WE HAVE MEETINGS THAT WERE GOING REALLY LONG AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET TO CERTAIN THINGS IN A TIMELY FASHION. PEOPLE WERE TIRED AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND FEELING THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE STUFF. SO THAT WAS THE REQUEST FOR SOME OF THIS THESE CHANGES. THE FIRST ITEM THAT IS ON FOUR ASKED A TEMPORARY 
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ORDINANCE. PAGE FOR IT IS ARTICLE TO BE TWO AND IT WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE ADDING TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS IT FROM THE BEGINNING MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION MAY SUBMIT ITEMS REPLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA ALL PROPOSED AGENDA ITEMS SHALL BE DELIVERED TO THE CITY'S CLERK OFFICE AT A MINIMUM A SIX BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE A COMMISSION MEETING. THESE ITEMS SHALL BE A PART OF THE MEETING NOTICE AND PART OF THE MEETING AGENDA. NO MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION MAY PRESENT MORE THAN THREE ITEMS AT ANY MEETING. THAT IS WHAT OUR RULES ARE. WHAT WAS ADDED FOR DISCUSSION IS NOTWITHSTANDING THE FOREGOING LIMITATION. IF A MEMBER PRESENTS A PROCLAMATION SPECIAL RECOGNITION ON THE MEETING AGENDA THE RECIPIENT OF THE PROCLAMATION SPECIAL RECOGNITION IS NOT PRESENT IN THE PROCLAMATIONS NATIONAL RECOGNITION IS NOT READ IN FULL IN SUCH PROCLAMATION. SPECIAL RECOGNITION SHALL NOT COUNT AGAINST THE THREE AGENDA ITEMS. A MEMBER MAY PRESENT WHICH ALLOW A MEMBER TO PRESENT AN ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEM. THERE ARE LAST MEETINGS WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE THERE WAS NO LONGER CONSENSUS ON THAT BECAUSE WE STILL WANTED TO KEEP IT AT THREE. AH THE PURPOSE WAS TO NOT HAVE OUR CLERK AND OUR CLERK'S OFFICE HAVING TO WRITE NUMEROUS ADDITIONAL PROCLAMATIONS OR RECOGNITIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOT OF TIME FROM WHAT WERE OTHER WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE. SO ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM I SEE THAT MR. GALAN AS A FLIP COMMISSIONER ON. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR SECTION. AFTER WHAT I KIND OF JUST STATED WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS WHAT THE I CAN'T SAY I AGREE WITH THE CHANGE. THE ORIGINAL INTENT WHAT WE WERE TRYING RABAT WAS TO HAVE PROCLAMATIONS AND BE ASKED AT THE LAST MINUTE A LIMITATION ON THE PROCLAMATIONS AND TO KNOW THAT THE WORK BEING DONE BY OUR CLERK'S OFFICE IS SIGNIFICANT JUST BECAUSE WE PROVIDE A DOCUMENT THAT HAS SOME IDEAS OF WHAT TO SAY IN THE PROCLAMATION. THE RESEARCH IN THE BACKGROUND THAT IS GOING THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS ACTUALLY MORE. SO WE WERE JUST ASKING FOR SOME NOT TO HAVE MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR. SO AT THIS POINT I'M NOT SAYING THE CHANGE IN THERE IS NEEDED AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT PUTS MORE WORK OR ONUS ONTO THE WHICH IS I THINK THE REASON WHY WE ASK FOR LEGISLATIVE CHANGES BECAUSE THEY CAN DRAFT THE DOCUMENT FOR THE PROCLAMATIONS IF THERE ARE GONNA BE ANY AND THEN JUST SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK FOR REVIEW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE A CLERK TO DRAFT A PROCLAMATION. ACTUALLY I'M NOT SO CERTAIN ABOUT LEGALLY THE PROCESS ON THAT SAM THE PROCLAMATIONS OF WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS ON A PROCLAMATION. DO THEY NEED TO BE VETTED IS OR CAN ANYONE JUST DRAFT A PROCLAMATION. AND IS IT NOT VETTED BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS IS ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE BODY A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY CLERK TO REVIEW AN AMERICAN MISSION. I'M GOING TO BE DEFERENTIAL TO THE CLERK AS TO HOW THE PROCESS ACTUALLY IS EMPLOYED BUT I WILL GIVE YOU ONE CAVEAT IF YOU WILL IF THERE ARE PROCLAMATIONS WHICH THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS WORKING ON DRAFTING THAT HAVE SOME LEGAL IMPACT WHICH SOME OF THEM DO. MANY DO NOT. THE CLERK DOES SHARE THAT WITH OUR OFFICE FOR REVIEW AND ANYTHING THAT GOES ON THE AGENDA. THEN THEY HAVE SOME LEGAL IMPACT. WE REVIEW THAT EITHER THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER OR BY THE CLERK DIRECTLY AS TO THE ACTUAL PREPARATION. IT IS NOT A MAINSTAY OF WHAT WE DO IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS BEEN ROUTINELY PREPARING PROCLAMATIONS WHICH ARE TYPICALLY AS YOU KNOW PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION BY THE MAYOR AND OTHERS DURING PUBLIC SESSION. SO THAT WOULD BE MY BEST RESPONSE. BEING DEFERENTIAL TO OUR CLERK I THINK CAN HELP TO SUPPLEMENT THAT DISCUSSION. YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO. NO IT'S JUST THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE EVERYBODY IS VERY WELL AWARE OF THE TIME IT TAKES TO PUT INTO WRITING THESE PROCLAMATIONS AND YOU KNOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE JOB THAT NEEDS IS. UNDERSTOOD UNDERSTOOD. AND THERE IS A FORMALITY TO IT AND I ACTUALLY HAVE SAT WITH OUR CLERK AND KNOW THE FORMALITY AND WHAT THE WORK THAT SHE NEEDS TO DO ON THESE THINGS. SO BASICALLY ON THE FIRST CHANGE MY QUESTION WASN'T ANSWERING YOU FEEL IT'S NOT ANSWERED BUT IT WASN'T ANSWERED. IF IF IF IF I CAN CLARIFY THAT THE QUESTION WAS WHAT DOES THIS MEAN. WELL THE QUESTION IS CAN I READ LEGISLATIVE A DRAFT THE PROCLAMATION SO THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE THE TIME AND WRITE IT AND THEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR REVIEW WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE AS I HAVE TO DO THE FULL 
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WORK IN DRAFTING THE PROCLAMATION. YOU CAN GOOGLE HOW TO WRITE A PROCLAMATION. IT'S NOT TYPICAL AND IT'S ACTUALLY THE PROCESS WHICH SOMETIMES HAPPENS NOW WHEN PROCLAMATIONS COME IN THEY COME IN WITH SOME OF THEM MEAN WITH A DRAFT YET EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE DRAFTED THE CITY CLERK STILL REVIEWS THE BACKUP AND IT STILL GOES THROUGH A TIMELY PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS PROPER IN LINE WITH WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID IN THE MANNER WHICH IS SET FOR THE CITY. SO IT'S NOT SAYING THAT IT CAN'T BE INITIALLY DONE THROUGH WHOMEVER IS ASSISTING. I'M JUST SHARING THAT IT MAY NOT BE THE END ALL BE ALL BECAUSE THE WORK IS STILL THERE. MADAM MAYOR IF I MIGHT TO JUST ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISONS HAVE BEEN DRAFTED TO INCLUDE THAT AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED COMMISSIONER DOLAN IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND IT WOULD BE EXPECTED THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE WOULD PROVIDE SOME TRAINING TO THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THINGS LIKE A PROCLAMATION WHAT'S THE PROPER FORM AND WHATNOT AND THEN THEY WOULD BE EXPECTED TO DRAFT THOSE THOSE KINDS OF FOR EACH ONE OF THANK YOU. 
          BUT IT STILL COMES DOWN TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE BEING READ AND IF WE WANT MORE THAN THREE READ AT A MEETING AND THE TIMELINESS OF IT. SO COLLEAGUES AT THIS POINT HAVE YOU HAD YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED YEAH. SO NOW MY SECOND QUESTION IS HOW MANY HOW MANY PROCLAMATIONS ARE TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE HAVE EIGHT AT THE NEXT MEETING. ARE WE TRYING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PROCLAMATIONS WE HAVE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT TO A MAXIMUM OF THREE OR FIVE OF US WHICH IS ALREADY 15 WHICH IS TOO MUCH OK. I'M NOT DISAGREEING PEOPLE. I MEAN THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CONVERSATION. SO SO ONE IS WE CAN BRING UP THE THREE AGENDA ITEMS THREE ITEMS WHICH INCLUDE AGENDA ITEMS. SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SAY NO MORE THAN ONE OR NO MORE THAN TWO PROCLAMATIONS PER MEETING REFRESHMENT SO THE WAY I'M READING THIS IS WHILE WE HAVE EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA NOT ALL EIGHT ARE GOING TO BE READ. IF THERE'S NO ONE THERE TO ACTUALLY ACCEPT IT. AM I WRONG ON THAT. THAT PART IS WHAT WE WILL GET TO IN THE ORDER OF BUSINESS. UNDER JEET B. B BUT YES WE WILL. THIS SECTION WELL THAT'S IF WE WERE ADDING THEM BUT ALSO WHAT THE SECTION SAID IT WILL NOT COUNT AND YOU CAN ADD MORE. SO THIS SECTION STARTS TO ADDRESS WHICH ONES WILL BE READ AND WHICH ONES WILL NOT. SO SAYS YOU CAN STILL HAVE MORE. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. SO THE EIGHT THAT WE HAVE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE READ IN FULL. THEY MAY JUST BE ON THE AGENDA AND NOT READ BECAUSE NO ONE'S THERE TO ACCEPT THEM WHICH IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHICH IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAD CONCERNS WITH BECAUSE HE SAID EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT THERE HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE RIGHT IF IT'S READ INTO THE RECORD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR CONCERNS HAVE CHANGED ON THAT TOPIC. NOT ALL OF. SOME SOME PROCLAMATIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO ME TO BE READ SOMEWHERE. SO THEN I WOULD TELL YOU WHICH ONES I WOULD WRITE AND WHICH WHICH AGAIN LEADS US TO BLUSH. I KNOW I'M JUST TAKING THIS EXAMPLE BECAUSE THERE'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF US IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. 
          COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS TO PUT THIS MEANING SAY HE HAD YOU. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU SAY HE HAD IT ALL THE WAY IT'S RAN IT'S REALLY HARD. SO WHY DON'T WE JUST FORGET THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW AND START IT ALL OVER AGAIN. OKAY. HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT LIMITING IT NOW TO QUEUE UP TO TWO PROCLAMATIONS WHETHER THEY'RE READ OR NOT THERE ARE CONSENSUS ON THAT AND THIS IS FOR THE COMMISSION THIS IS NOT STOP STAFF FROM THEIR PROCLAMATIONS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROCLAMATIONS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. AND ALSO I WILL SHARE THAT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. I GET ASKED A LOT OF PROCLAMATIONS ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US AND I WILL TRY TO PUT THEM ON AS THE MAYOR COMMISSION OR I'VE ASKED WHERE IT COMES THROUGH THROUGH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AS POSSIBLE UNLIKE KIDS IN PARKS PROCLAMATION IS ONE THAT'S COMING THROUGH COMMISSIONER GREGORY WARNER HAS PUT IT THROUGH ON HIS BECAUSE HE ALSO GOT THE EMAIL AT THE SAME TIME SO HIS IT WENT THROUGH ON HIM WHICH IS FINE. SO I DO FEEL PERSONALLY THAT SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE A MONTH OF DIFFICULTY WHERE I WOULD HAVE TROUBLE AT TWO IF I COULD PUT HIM ON TO THE SECOND MEETING IN THE MONTH. IT MIGHT BE EASIER. SO THEN AGAIN SOME MONTHS I MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING SO IT REALLY JUST IT'S 
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HARD. PEOPLE LIKE THE PROCLAMATIONS THEY ARE THE SYMBOL OF COMMUNITY SPIRIT. IT'S A SYMBOL OF SHARING OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS OUR BUSINESSES OR WHEN WE'RE RECOGNIZING A CULTURAL HERITAGE MONTH OR AN ORGANIZATION HOW MUCH THEY MEANS US AND THEY APPRECIATE IT. SO I GUESS IT'S ALSO SHOULD BE TAKEN AS A COMPLEMENT TO OUR CITY AND FROM OUR COMMISSION THAT WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE SO MANY. BUT WITH THAT SAID LADIES AND GENTLEMEN HELP ME OUT HERE. I'VE GOT TO SO I STILL THINK IT IS TOO MUCH AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD WE SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB OF GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND INTRODUCING THAT PROCLAMATIONS TO THE DIFFERENT RESPECTIVE ORGANIZATIONS. SO I THINK SOME OBVIOUSLY ESPECIALLY THOSE DONE BY STAFF CAN BE DONE HERE. BUT I MEAN I HAVEN'T MADE A PROCLAMATION IN A LONG TIME BECAUSE I JUST THINK WE DO TOO MUCH. AND IF I AM GOING TO DO A PROCLAMATION THEN I'LL I'LL DO IT AT THE ORGANIZATION THAT I'M RECOGNIZING OR WE CAME TO DO IT. YOU KNOW SOMEONE'S JOB MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD AND MAKE THEIR BOSSES FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IMPORTANT. I REALLY HAVE A POSITION ON THIS EXCEPT YOU KNOW WE DO TOO MUCH OK FAIR ENOUGH. VICE MAYOR I THINK EVEN AT TWO EACH THAT'S 10 AND WHETHER OR NOT WE READ THEM OR WE DON'T READ THEM IT'S STILL 10 AND THEN WE HAVE STAFF IT'S JUST GOTTEN REALLY OUT OF HAND. AND I THINK NUMBER ONE WE NEED TO BE VERY SELECTIVE IN WHO WE GIVE PROCLAMATIONS TO. OTHERWISE THEY LOSE THEIR AND I AGREE THAT IF I'M GIVING A PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION A PROCLAMATION AND EVEN IF ONE PERSON SHOWS UP FOR IT AND WE'RE READING IT AND THAT'S LOVELY. BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY DO GO TO THEM AND GIVE THAT TO THEM AT THEIR ORGANIZATION I THINK THE IMPACT THERE IS IS MORE PERSONAL IN MY MIND. BUT I THINK EVEN TO HER IS WAY TOO MUCH. WE HAVE I THINK NINE ON THE NEXT MEETING AND YOU DON'T KNOW GONNA BE READ NOT GOING TO BE READ. SOMEBODY MAY SAY THEY'RE SHOWING UP AND DON'T OR VICE VERSA. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE WE NEED TO LIMIT AND SELECT BUT THEN WE ALSO LIMIT THE NUMBER THAT ARE SUBMITTED BY STAFF HE'S REQUESTING A LIMIT ON STAFF. AM I WILL SAY I'M NOT. NO OF COURSE I'M ASKING DO WE PUT A LIMIT ON STAFF AS WELL. I DON'T PERSONALLY THINK WE DO. I DON'T THINK THERE'S SET ONES PER MONTH THAT ARE USUALLY ASKED FOR BY OUR STAFF. AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I BELIEVE THOSE CONTINUE TO BE READ. THERE IS A IN INFORMATIONAL ART TO IT THAT GOES OUT TO THE CITY THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT. AND WHILE I DO THINK THAT THESE SUGGESTIONS OF GOING OUT TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE GIVING IT TO THEIR JOBS OR THEIR LOCATIONS OR THEIR MEETINGS IS A GREAT IDEA I DO THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE REALLY DO ENJOY COMING TO OUR CITY FOR THE PROCLAMATION AND HAVING IT READ IT IS TELEVISED IN OUR VERSION OF TELEVISED WORLD PHOTOS AND A SPECIAL FEELING THAT THEY HAVE WHICH AGAIN I'M. 
          AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF LIMIT BECAUSE THERE IS A TO KEEP THE IMPORTANCE OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS. I'M LOOKING THROUGH THIS MONTH'S PROCLAMATIONS JUST FOR AWARENESS. MS AUSTEN IS A YOUNG LADY WHO COULD NOT MAKE IT TO THE LAST ONE. SO THAT WAS A ROLLOVER SHE WILL BE THERE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AWARENESS MONTH MISS VAN. THIS IS SOMETHING SHE ASKED FOR OVER A YEAR AGO. SHE DEFINITELY WILL BE THERE. THE NATIONAL WOMEN'S LUNG HEALTH WEEK CIRCLE TURQUOISE TAKEOVER INITIATIVE. MR GARCIA WILL DEFINITELY BE THERE THE NEXT TO OUR STAFF. WE HAVE THE HAITIAN HERITAGE PROCLAMATION MONTH WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS ON COMMISSION BOLTON'S YEARLY REQUEST AND THE MENTAL HEALTH PROCLAMATION WHICH I ALSO BELIEVE IS ON COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S YEARLY REQUEST. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYONE SPECIFIC THAT YOU WILL HAVE THERE BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A PRESUMPTION OR ASK FOR CONFIRMATION. THESE ARE ONES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE READ THE RECORD. COMMISSIONER BOLTON I'M I AM REACHING OUT TO ORGANIZATIONS TO BECAUSE THEY RAISE THE LEVEL OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY SHOULD BE AWARE AWARENESS AND ALSO RECOGNITION RIGHT. AND THEN NATIONAL BUSINESSES STAFF AND THEN THE JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL RECEIVE THE EMAIL FROM. CONGRESSWOMAN 
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WILSON AND SHULTZ OFFICE REGARDING THIS AND THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY THERE. MR. BELLMAN WE'LL BE THERE. SO HOW DID THIS MONTH'S MEETING ALONG WITH OUR 2 YEAR GRADUATION. IT'LL BE A VERY FUN AND JOYOUS MEETING WITH PEOPLE BEING RECOGNIZED. SO BUT FOR FUTURE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I'VE GOT DOWN TO TWO TO BE READ BY STOPPED BY US FOR HOURS AND MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT THAT THE FRIDAY THE WEEK BEFORE THE COMMISSION MEETING. WE KNOW WHEN THE PROCLAMATIONS ARE COMING. GOT YOUR BOOK MAYBE BY THE END OF MONDAY. WE KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE COMING SO WE CAN HAVE OR IF WE'RE READING IT OUT LOUD AND HAVE IT CALLED SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY GETTING ANYWHERE ON THIS PARTICULAR PART OF IT. GOD BECAUSE I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE NEXT ONE WE COULD GO BACK TO THIS. THE PART THAT I HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE WITH THOUGH IS THE SIX DAYS IN ADVANCE BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETIMES WE WANT TO REQUEST PROCLAMATIONS OR SOMEONE OR A CAUSE YOU KNOW JUST BECAUSE WE JUST MET THEM AND WE THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS COOL. I REQUESTED A PRESENTATION BEFORE TO REALLY TO BE MET BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE COMMUNITY AND HE RESCUED SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS FROM THOUSANDS OF BEES. YOU KNOW THAT WAS NOT IN THE 6TH THE WINDOW SO IT WAS IN PART A FAVOR WAS GIVEN AND ALLOWED TO MAKE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION BUT THAT SPECIAL EXCEPTION SHOULD REMAIN WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE ON WHETHER OR NOT TIME ALLOWS FOR IT IN THERE. SO WE'LL WE'LL WE ADD IN THE LANGUAGE SPECIAL EXCEPTION CAN BE MADE BY THE CLERK OR WE IF IF WE SHOULD HAVE AS AIDES I MEAN THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME IN THE COURT'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO CORRECT IT'S NOT. SO I THINK IF I THINK IF THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES ARE HOPEFULLY WHENEVER WE GET TO THAT BRIDGE IS DRAFTING THEM AND THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE ISSUE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. AND IF WE WANT TO GO TO A CERTAIN ORGANIZATION TO PRESENT THAT ALSO TAKES AWAY FROM THE ISSUE IN THE COMMISSION MEETING SO THAT THE DISASTER ITSELF WILL THERE. SO WITH THOSE TWO THINGS I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT KIND OF WHAT I WAS SAYING IN THE BEGINNING. I DON'T KNOW IF I ACTUALLY KNEW THAT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IS NEEDED ANYMORE IN THE FIRST ONE WAS. DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE NOT THERE WITH THE CHANGE. YES YES. OK. YEAH. THAT AMERICAN NOTION THAT HAVING YOU'VE REACHED CAN IF YOU REACH CONSENSUS WHICH I'M TRYING TO EMBRACE REMEMBER THAT ON WEDNESDAY THE WAY THAT YOU GET THINGS TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION YOU CHOOSE TO DELETE THE SUBSECTION E TWO IS BY MOTION WHEN THEN WHEN WHEN THE AUDIENCE OF READ MOTIONS TO AMEND WOULD INCLUDE DELETING SECTION E TWO AND A PROPOSED ADDITIONAL CHOSEN LANGUAGE BECAUSE ON THE RECORD YOU CAN'T DO THAT THIS MORNING BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY MOVE TO THAT. THAT THAT ANDRE. COME WEDNESDAY BY BY SEPARATE MOTION. SO AS TO EST E TWO ON PAGE 4 THE WISH MOTION TO REMOVE NEW LANGUAGE TO AMEND THE DOCUMENT TO DELETE THAT PROVISION. OK SO THEN MOVING DOWN TO THE ORDER OF BUSINESS WHERE I G. PAGE 5 I'M SORRY. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SIX DAYS. IS THERE ANY I JUST BEFORE WE MOVE PAST THIS NUMBER TWO SIX DAYS IS OR IS IT BUSINESS DAY. 
          THAT'S IN THE THAT'S BEEN IN THE CODE THAT'S NOT BEING ASKED FOR IT TO BE CHANGED BY THIS PROPOSAL. CORRECT. AND WILL WE CHANGE IT OR WILL WE ADD LANGUAGE THAT SAYS WE CAN MAKE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. I SEEING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. SHE CAN MAKE THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION. I DON'T KNOW IF I MEAN WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO LIMIT HOW MANY WERE DOING RIGHT. I JUST I JUST WANT TO BE HELD TO LACK OF A BETTER TERM A FAIR STANDARD. LIKE IT'S OK FOR AN EXCEPTION FOR ONE INSTANCE OR SOMEBODY ELSE BUT THEN FOR SOMEBODY ELSE IT'S NOT. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LIKE EITHER CHANGE THEM IN THIS MORE WE'RE JUST A CUSTOMER IN PRACTICE IT CAN 
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BE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. AND HOW DO WE DETERMINE THIS ACTUALLY. COMMISSIONER BOLTON THERE HAVE BEEN TWO SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS MADE WITHOUT THERE BEING ANY FANFARE OR ISSUE REGARDING IT FROM WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE IF YOU'RE FEELING THAT THERE'S A PUSH BACK IT'S BEEN DONE ALREADY. I THINK ON A LEGAL TERMINOLOGY TO WIND UP BEING DISCRETION TO NOT BE UNREASONABLY WITHHELD BY OUR CITY CLERK BUT THAT WOULD BE LAWYER INFORMATION FOR OUR LAWYERS TO SAY BEFORE GOING THERE. MR. FISHMAN HAD A COMMENT I THINK ON WHAT YOU'RE ASKING MR. FISHMAN WELL THE STANDARD PRACTICE IS SIX DAYS IF THERE'S SIX BUSINESS DAYS. IF THE CLERK GETS A REQUEST WHETHER THE LANGUAGE IS IN THE ORDINANCE OR NOT IF THE CLERK GETS A CALL OR A REQUEST IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT THE REQUEST IS FOR. IF SHE'S GOT TO LOOK UP THE LANGUAGE OR IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN BY OUR PART TIME PERSON AND IF WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON WITHIN THE OFFICE. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN ENCOMPASS ALL OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A SITUATION SPECIFIC REQUEST. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR MY COLLEAGUES DO WE HAVE A NEED OR DESIRE TO HAVE SIGN LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS BUT IS ALREADY ALLOWED IN. WELL WE'VE ALREADY BEEN GOING THROUGH IMPACT I THINK. I THINK THE PUSHBACK IS THIS ACTUAL DOCUMENT BECAUSE ALL ALONG IT WAS GOING FINE BUT THEN THIS DOCUMENT COMES TO CHANGE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT CHANGES THEN WE HAVE TO PRESENT CHANGES BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE WERE DOING ALL ALONG. BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY WEREN'T. THERE WAS AN ISSUE. AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS BROUGHT UP BECAUSE WE WERE NOT DOING AS FINE AS IT'S NICE TO THINK WE WERE. BUT OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE WERE HAVING SOME ISSUES DURING THE BEGINNING MONTHS WE WEREN'T. SO IF THINGS ARE GONNA COME ALONG TOGETHER BETTER TO NOW REALIZE WE HAD THESE RULES THAT ARE IN PLACE THEN THERE'S BEEN NO PUSHBACK TO NOT HAVING SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS I KNOW BOTH GENTLEMEN HAVE HAD THEM. NOBODY'S COMPLAINED ABOUT IT. WE'RE ALL WE'VE ALL REALIZED HOW MUCH TIME AND ENERGY GOES INTO THE WORK BEING DONE FOR THE MEETINGS AND ALSO WHAT HAPPENS AT THE MEETINGS. AND IT'S JUST A WAY TO FORMULATE THE PROCESS AND THERE'S AGAIN SOME OF THEM MAY NOT EVEN GO FORWARD. SO ON THE SPECIFIC REQUEST THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR OBVIOUSLY YOU WISH HAVE SOME OTHER LANGUAGE I JUST RESERVE. I JUST WANT TO RESERVE THE RIGHT OR THE PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO REQUEST EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION. UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU COULD SAY YOU DON'T WANT THOSE PROCLAMATIONS TO BE BROUGHT. I MEAN DO YOU HAVE THAT PRIVILEGE OR WOULD YOU DO THAT. I BELIEVE THAT EVERY SINGLE PROCLAMATION WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO GO FORWARD AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY ISSUES. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM. I AM NOT YOUR PAST MAYOR. OK. THIS WAS SO PROUD UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP. THERE WAS A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL BULLYING MONTH WENT FORWARD THE FIRST TIME AND THE SECOND TIME IT DID NOT GO FORWARD OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE HE WAS A BULLY. YOU DIDN'T NOT LIKE IT BUT FIRST I WOULD LIKE ITS NOT TO GO THERE IF WE CAN PLEASE. I MEAN I KNOW YOU DID BUT I'M ASKING FOR US NOT TO GO THERE. OK. I THINK THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PROCLAMATIONS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE SHOULD BE CERTAIN DISCUSSIONS IF IT'S ON A MORE IF THERE'S A CONCERN OUT OF ANY OTHER PROCLAMATIONS THAT COME UP ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMISSION I THINK THE COMMISSION. ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION HAS A RIGHT TO BRINGING FORTH FOR DISCUSSION. 
          THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING. BUT THEN AGAIN THAT'S A PROVOCATIVE OR SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY ALWAYS HAVE. OK. IF IF I MAY AND I HEARD I HEARD HIS CONCERN FOR FROM OUR STANDPOINT A LITTLE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. THERE'S RULES FOR PLACING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT SIX DAY SIX BUSINESS DAYS AND THERE'S BEEN A CUSTOM AND PRACTICE TO ALLOW FOR CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS IF YOU MISS THAT DEADLINE. BUT THERE ARE NO RULES OR PROCEDURES TO THAT. AND THE CONCERN I HEARD WAS WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WHAT. 
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PROCESS BY WHICH THE SPECIAL SECTION WOULD BE MADE IF TWO DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING THREE DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING. I THINK HIS CONCERN IS THERE MAY BE SOME APPLICABILITY ISSUES GOING FORWARD WITH YOU MAY PRESENT ONE OR HE MAY PRESENT ONE THAT GOES FORTH AND YOU PRESENT ONE THAT WAS UNABLE TO GO FORWARD AND BOTH WERE AFTER THE SIX DAYS. 
          I THINK THAT'S IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY THAT WAS YOUR CONCERN. WELL HERE'S THE THING. I MEAN WE CAN PUT IN A LOT MORE RULES WHICH WILL MAKE IT VERY RESTRICTIVE AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GONNA BE PLEASED WITH THAT ESPECIALLY MY UNDERSTANDING ONE OF THE PROCLAMATIONS CAME IN AROUND 3:00 OR 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON THE NIGHT BEFORE OUR COMMISSION MEETING A 9 A.M. COMMISSION MEETING. SO BUT IT'S STILL SOMEONE FORWARD. SO THINGS THAT WORK WAS STILL DONE. SO DO WE WANT TO BE SO RESTRICTIVE WHERE THAT OPPORTUNITY MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE I'M TRYING TO IN AN HOUR AND A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTANDING I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEYS. SO YOU GUYS OUR CITY ATTORNEYS FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING. I MEAN DOES EVERYONE HAVE THIS SIX DAY SIX BUSINESS DAY LIMITATION. I CAN GO. I GO THERE. THERE ARE RULES FOR A GENDER CUTOFF DAYS. THAT'S USUALLY THE WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING. SO ANY ITEMS THAT ARE YOU KNOW IT'S USUALLY AT THE MEETINGS ON A WEDNESDAY IT'S USUALLY 12:00 ON THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY OR THE PRIOR THURSDAY OR WEDNESDAY. SO THERE ARE RULES IN EVERY CITY IN THAT REGARD. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS FOR THE PURPOSE TO BE ABLE TO GET THE BOOKS TO US FOR OUR ONLINE AGENDA AND HAS TO BE FINALIZED IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. CERTAIN THAT YOU HAD GIVEN ME SOME OF IT AND I DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE. IF YOU WOULD CAN YOU GIVE US A WEEK AND A LIFE AND TRYING TO PREPARE THE AGENDA FOR THE CITY AND WHAT NEEDS TO GO FOR NOTICES AND TIMING. WELL IT USUALLY COMES DOWN. WE HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT WE STICK TO WHEN ITEMS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS YOU KNOW AS THEY GO THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS AND ELECTRONIC AGENDA THEY'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE IN MY OFFICE. EVERYTHING INCLUDING PROCLAMATIONS WHATEVER BY NOON ON THE THURSDAY PRIOR TO COMMISSIONER WORKSHOP AND THE COMMISSION MEETING MOST OF THE TIME THAT DOESN'T WORK IN MOST THE TIME THE STUFF COMES THROUGH A LITTLE BIT LATER AND THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE SOMETIMES HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE ELECTRONIC AGENDA ITSELF BUT YOU KNOW IT CAN GET PRETTY STRESSFUL TRYING TO GET THAT STUFF DONE. AND THEN YOU PUT THE BOOKS TOGETHER MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NEEDS TO BE OUT AND PROBABLY NOTICED. SO PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY IN THE TIMEFRAME TO BE ABLE TO READ AND REVIEW WAS SUFFICIENT TIME FOR BEFORE MEETING NOTICES ARE BEING SENT OUT. THE WHAT IS IT. IS IT CIVICS AND CIVIC CENTER AS SOON AS THE AGENDAS ARE OUT THERE. THIS NOTICE GOES OUT TO ANYBODY WHO HAS SIGNED UP FOR IT. YOU KNOW AND IT'S GOING OUT TO DOES IT THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED PEOPLE NOW AT THIS POINT THREE OR FOUR HUNDRED PEOPLE. BUT IT'S ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE SITE. WE ARE AWARE. SO IT'S IT'S NOT JUST AS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS IT'S NOT JUST AS SIMPLE AS ONE LITTLE ITEM. IT'S THE WHOLE ITEM IS THE WHOLE PACKAGE. IT'S ALL THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THE RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY OR ARE OUR MEETINGS AND OUR REST. CORRECT. AND AS SOON AS I WHAT WE CALL STITCHED UP THE AGENDA WHICH IS WHEN ALL OF THE ITEMS HAVE COME THROUGH EVERYTHING'S BEEN APPROVED ON THE ORDER ON THE AGENDA OF THE WORKSHOP. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED AND I STITCHED UP WHICH IS I CLOSE IT AND THAT AUTOMATICALLY AS SOON AS I DO THAT GOES ON OUR PUBLIC WEB SITE. YOU KNOW IF YOU GO TO THE MAIN PAGE AND YOU CLICK ON COMMISSION MEETING AND HIS MEETINGS AND AGENDAS THOSE ITEMS ARE RIGHT THERE THERE IN AN E-MAIL. AND A PDA VERSION. AND IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE IT'S EASIER TO LOOK AT THE BACKUP ITEMS SUCH AS THE MEMO THE RESOLUTION OR AGREEMENTS OR ANYTHING IF YOU CLICK ON THE H2 E-MAIL VERSION BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN IT'LL BRING UP EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN CLICK ON AND YOU CAN LOOK AT YOU KNOW AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT THE PDA VERSION AND HAVING TO SCROLL. SCROLL DOWN. YEAH. BUT THAT GOES OUT IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS I CLOSE IT OFF. SO THAT'S USUALLY THE SIX BUSINESS DAYS BEFOREHAND. USUALLY IT'S IT'S THURSDAY RIGHT. IT'S THE THURSDAY BEFORE. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S A REASON BEHIND THAT. SO IF WE'RE GOOD ON THAT ONE I THINK CAN WE ROLL ON DOWN TO ORDER OF BUSINESS G 3 D I'M NOT SURE OF THE NECESSARY WORDING IS ACTUALLY NEEDED. THE 
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ADDITIONAL WORDING IS NEEDED ANYMORE. BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION SO PROCLAMATION SPECIAL RECOGNITIONS MAY BE READ IN FULL. ONLY IF THE RECIPIENT IS IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING AT THE COMMISSION MEETING. I THINK THAT IS A LIMITATION LIMITING FACTOR ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT SOME MAY WANT READ. SO I'M GOING TO THINK THAT THIS IS ONE WE'RE GOING TO CALL FOR A MOTION DRIVE CONSENSUS THAT THIS MIGHT BE ONE MORE CALL FOR A MOTION TO AMEND BY THEN BUT I'M PHOTO BY DELETION AMEND BY DELETION OK I'VE GOT NOT A HANDFUL I SHOULD GO ON AND NOT AGAIN FROM VICE MAYOR AND AGAIN BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. ALL RIGHT. ROCKING AND ROLLING. JUST AGAIN IT JUST TO BE CLEAR ON WEDNESDAY IT WOULD BE THE COMMISSION WISH WISHING PLEASURE TO APPROVE THE AUDIENCE AS PROPOSED. YOU'LL HAVE TO INDEPENDENTLY AMEND THOSE SECTIONS YOU'RE NOW SEEKING TO DELETE BY DISCUSSION AND BY A CONCURRENCE HERE. AND IF YOU'RE NOT I'LL REMIND YOU AGAIN ON WEDNESDAY JUST WALK YOU THROUGH IT. THANK YOU. SO NOW WE COME DOWN TO G THREE E AND I WILL SAY AND G THREE H SO COMMISSION REPORTS AND THE LOCATION OF WHERE COMMISSION REPORTS ARE WHETHER COMMISSION REPORTS ARE RIGHT AFTER PROCLAMATIONS OR ARE THEY MOVED AFTER THE LEGISLATION OF THE DAY. 
          THE CONSENT AGENDA READING OF THE ORDINANCE RESOLUTIONS AND OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS POSITIVE JUDICIAL THE WHICH ALSO TIES INTO I GUESS H 1 B AND C ON TIMING OF THEM WERE PART OF THE MATTER WAS THAT SOME OF THE COMMISSION REPORTS WERE RUNNING REALLY LONG AND WE WEREN'T GETTING TO SOME OF THE SUBSTANCE OF THE DAY WITH ORDINANCES AND QUASI JUDICIAL AND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WERE THERE TO HAVE THEIR COMMENTS BE HEARD ON THE QUASI JUDICIAL OR PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE NOT BEING THEY HAD A LEAF AND THEY FELT THEIR VOICES WEREN'T HARD BECAUSE THE COMMISSION WAS TAKING MORE TIME THAN THEM FOR THEIR NEEDS IN THE PUBLIC FORUM. I KNOW OUR COMMISSION HAS EXPRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF THEIR REPORTS BEING MADE AND THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD. AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THE NEW FORMAT AS ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAS DONE AND IT'S GREAT THAT HE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT SOME OF US ARE NOT AS TECHNICALLY SAVVY. IT'S COMES DOWN TO THE PLACEMENT OF WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR REPORTS AND THE TIME OF THEM. SO IN OUR LAST MEETINGS REGARDING THIS THERE WAS CONSENSUS TO MOVE IT TO THE END. THEN THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON LIMITING FROM FIVE MINUTES TO 10 MINUTES. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE NEED TO START THE BALL ROLLING AGAIN ON LOCATION BECAUSE ALSO THERE WAS A REQUEST TO NOT EVEN HAVE COMMISSION REPORT. SO KEEPING ALL THOSE ITEMS IN MIND. COMMISSIONER FISHMAN YOU ARE LET FIRST SPEAK OK. I I DO BELIEVE THE COMMISSION REPORT SHOULD BE MOVED TO THE END OF THE MEETING. HOWEVER IF WE'RE MOVING THEM TO THE END OF THE MEETING I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED THE TIME FRAME OR TIME EXCEPTION OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT. I AGREE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE THAT EVEN FOR THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PORTION OF OUR MEETING HAVE HAD TO LEAVE BECAUSE BETWEEN THE PROCLAMATIONS AND COMMISSION REPORTS THEY'VE HAD TO GO HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS OR DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND TO ME THAT'S THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM. TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR LIVES TO COME TO A COMMISSION MEETING TO LET US KNOW HOW THEY FEEL AND THEN THEY DON'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY. COMMISSION REPORTS ARE IMPORTANT. WE ALL USE THEM TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION WHETHER IT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN OR SPECIFIC ISSUES. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO BE PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO SPEAK. THANK YOU VICE MAYOR IS TURNING OUR CAR THE OTHER TWO GENTLEMEN HAS NOT UNDER ANY SO SHE DOES ANYTHING. GO AHEAD. VICE MAYOR I'M FINE WITH MOVING THEM TO THE END AND AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER FISHMAN THAT PEOPLE ARE THERE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS. AND WHEN WE'RE TAKING UP SO MUCH TIME WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND WHATEVER THEY DO LEAVE. SO I'M FINE WITH THAT BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE THE SAME FOR ALL IF WE'RE MOVING OUR REPORTS 
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AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO MOVE CITY ATTORNEYS AND CITY MANAGERS ALONG WITH US. MY PERSONAL OPINION IF WE WANT TO KEEP THEM ALL AT THE BEGINNING THEN KEEP THEM ALL IN THE BEGINNING BUT IT SHOULD BE ALL FOR ONE ONE FOR ALL. I AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE MOVED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GIVE OUR REPORT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT COMMISSIONER BATTS HAD IN MIND. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW I GAVE IT BEING MORE I ALWAYS GOT SOME TO SAY IF I KEEP IT. YEAH. OK. COMMISSIONER BOLTON ACTUALLY THAT'S WHY YOU CAN GO BACK MEASURABLE. OK. SO HEARING WHAT COMMISSIONER FISHMAN SAID. THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WANTING TO SPEAK AND THAT'S WHAT IF WE KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME BUT MOVED PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE THE COMMISSION REPORTS REPORT. THAT'S ONE IDEA. IF WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD GIVE RESIDENTS A FAIR SHOT. SPEAKING TO THE COMMISSION. SO THEN IT WOULD NOT BE A MATTER OF PEOPLE HAVE TO LEAVE IT. MAY I MAKE ONE COMMENT ON THAT. 
          WE HAVE POSITIVE JUDICIAL AND QUASI JUDICIAL COMMENTS WHEN PEOPLE SPEAK THEY SPEAK DURING THE QUASI JUDICIAL SO YOU STILL HAVE THOSE PEOPLE THERE. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EVEN IF YOU MOVE PUBLIC COMMENTS THEY STILL SPEAK TO INQUIRE ADDITIONAL WHICH IS LATER. LET'S BRING THAT OUT TO YOU. I MEAN GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF PROCLAMATIONS. ALL THESE THINGS DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ANYWAY. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT EACH PERSON SPEAKS IT'S ONLY A TWENTY FIVE MINUTE. SO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT JUST NICE YOU KNOW THEY CAN SPEAK IN THAT SORT OF STUFF. THERE'S I'VE ALSO SEEN YOU KNOW WAVE IN SUPPORT YOU KNOW THEY CAN JUST SAY HEY I CAN'T STAY BUT I WOULD EVEN SUPPORT THIS ITEM AND LEAVE. SO IF IT'S A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK BEFORE THEY HAVE TO DO IMPORTANT THINGS THEN I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE COMMISSIONER COMMISSION REPORTS THAT YOU ARE SO SAFE. AND DID YOU ALSO SAY YOU SUBMIT TO FIVE MINUTES. IF WE'RE GOING. NO I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE SAYING IF WE ARE GOING THAT ROUTE I'M TRYING TO GET WHICH ITEM IS YOUR ITEM IS MOVE PUBLIC COMMENTS UP BEFORE MISSION REPORTS AND LIMIT COMMISSION PARTS OF FIVE MINUTES. AND IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF EVERYONE TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT SOMEBODY SPEAKS THEN THAT WOULD ONLY BE A 24 HOUR WAIT. I'VE BETWEEN THIS WATCHED OUR OTHER COMMISSION MEET OTHER CITIES HAVE CONDUCTED THEIR MEETINGS. SOME CITIES HAVE COMMISSION REPORTS AT AND WHAT COMMISSIONER GALLON DOES IS IS NOT VERY UNIQUE. WHEN HE PRESENTS WITH A POWERPOINT OR TWO I CAN. I'VE SEEN LATELY THE CITY OF MIRAMAR DOING POWERPOINT EVERYBODY ACTUALLY GETS TO GO EVEN FURTHER. SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS DO VIDEOS. SO IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S REALLY A SHOW AND THEN YOU KNOW FOR INSTANCE IN NORTH LAUDERDALE DID THEY DO IT AT THE END BUT THEY JUST TOUCH ON A FEW POINTS THAT ARE THINGS THAT THEY DO AND THAT'S THE STUFF. IN OTHER CITIES THEY DO IT THOUGH AS SOON AS THEY GO INTO THIS. THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT THEY TALK ABOUT BEFORE PROCLAMATIONS BEFORE IN OTHER CITIES YOU KNOW CHOOSE TO DO IT THE WAY HOW THEY DO IT. I JUST THINK WE SHOULD BE JUST SENSITIVE TO WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS AND TRY TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOMETHING. SO YOU KNOW IF COMMISSIONER GLEN HAS TWO ISSUES MAYBE HE CAN GIVE UP ONE. AND SO FAR I'VE HEARD TWO ISSUES. ONE IS LIMITING THE TIME AND TWO IS MOVING IT TO THE END. 
          THOSE ARE TWO ISSUES. SO MAYBE WE COULD COMPROMISE ON ONE OF HIS ISSUES. OK. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK UP AT THE BEGINNING. I HAVE FIVE MINUTES. OK. OR YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT THE END AND HAVE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED. BUT AT LEAST GIVE SOME SAY HE'S 
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GOING TO SPEAK FOR HIMSELF JUST VERY SHORTLY. RIGHT. BUT I'M I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR HIM I'M JUST SAYING WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES AND THIS IS THIS IS MY MY OPINION FROM ME. I'VE ALWAYS SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME YOU KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY LISTENING ANYWAY. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU KNOW AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING IS AN. AND THIS IS THIS IS NOT BEING FACETIOUS. I I CHECKED WITH THE EVENT AND HE SAID SOMETIMES THERE ARE LIKE FIVE OR 10 PEOPLE LISTENING WATCHING OR LISTENING WE'RE TALKING TO CRICKETS RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING TO FOUR PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK INCLUDING TAMARA TALK. HELLO TO YOU COME INTO IT. IT'S LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING. YOU KNOW IT'S KIND OF SOCIETALLY BUT I MEAN WHY YES. LIKE I LIKE. FOR ME I REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT IT OK. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING CRAZY WE'RE GONNA GET A HAND WITH HIM NEXT. YOU HAVE A LOAN. THAT'S WHY WE WILL RESOLVE THIS PART TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF ENOUGH ALREADY. AND. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SCOTT. SO I MEAN THIS IS BASICALLY FOLLOWING ROBERT'S RULES AND ROBERT'S RULES HAS IT WHERE THE OFFICER REPORTS. ALL RIGHT. AHEAD WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE IT. SO TO ME THERE'S NO REASON TO MOVE IT. THAT'S ONE. NUMBER TWO I'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF HAVING LENGTHY PRESENTATIONS BUT THE ONLY TIME I'VE HAD LENGTHY PRESENTATIONS IS WHEN WE MISS A COMMISSION MEETING. SO FOR EXAMPLE YOU ASKED ME NOT TO PRESENT DURING THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE HAD A LENGTHY PRESENTATION. I REGRET TO REPHRASE I AGREE EVERYBODY DIDN'T PRESENT. I DIDN'T SAY COMMISSIONER ALONG WITH EVERYBODY. I MEAN BOLTON WAS TALKING ABOUT ME. YOU TOLD ME YOU TOLD HIM I WOULD SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ANYBODY ELSE. NO I'M SAYING I. YOU ASKED ME. I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE. OK. YOU ASKED ME AND I GLADLY OBLIGE. NO PROBLEM. SO WHAT THAT MEANT WAS MY NEXT COMMISSION REPORT WAS GOING TO COVER FOR WEEKS INSTEAD OF TWO WEEKS. SO ANOTHER TIME I HAD A LENGTHY PRESENTATION WAS WHEN WE SKIPPED THE COMMISSION MEETING BECAUSE WE WERE ALL TRAVELING. SO IF I'M GOING TO COVER TWO WEEKS WORTH YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT MUCH TO COVER IN TWO WEEKS I'M GOING TO COVER A MONTH WORK THEN THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF OF MOVING THE COMMISSION REPORTS. I HAVEN'T SEEN PEOPLE WALK OUT THE ROOM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SPEAK ON AN ITEM. WE ONLY HAVE THE HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN WHO SPEAK ON AN ITEM AND THEY SPEAK ON TOP OF THAT. WHENEVER I DO MY PRESENTATIONS IF THERE'S AN AUDIENCE THEY ALWAYS APPLAUD. SO THEY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION THAT I DO GET. AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON REFERENCE MIRAMAR MIRAMAR. THEY DO THEIR STAFF REPORTS AT THE END. THEY ALSO I MEAN THE COMMISSION REPORTS AT THE END THEY ALSO DO THE STAFF REPORTS AT THE END. SO IT'S GOING TO MOVE THE COMMISSION REPORTS MOVE THE STAFF REPORTS IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR THE CITY MANAGER TALK ABOUT THE EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP AND WE HAVE FULL ACCESS TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY VIA A TEXT MESSAGE EMAIL. SO I DON'T NEED TO HEAR A REPORT FROM HIM EITHER. COMMISSIONER OK SO MY OPINION QUITE HONESTLY I THINK. AND UM AND ACTUALLY I SAM AND MIKE. BUT MY OPINION IS THAT THE STAFF REPORTS ARE IMPORTANT AND NEED TO BE HEARD WHEN THEY ARE HEARD AT THE BEGINNING. SAM HAS THINGS THAT HE HAS TO DISCUSS WITH US MANY TIMES THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF AND ISSUES AT ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE LEGAL. BUT I JUST START OUT THERE SO USUALLY WE START WITH SAM ON YOUR REPORTS. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE OR CONCERN ABOUT BEING MOVED MARY COMMISSION. I APPRECIATE THE AT THE ABILITY TO COMMENT TO YOU PUBLICLY ON THINGS THAT RELATE TO YOUR PUBLIC DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. THERE ARE THOSE THINGS AS COMMISSIONER YELLEN APTLY PLACED IT. THERE ARE THINGS THAT I DON'T DISCUSS WITH YOU PUBLICLY BUT I DO DISCUSS WITH YOU IN A PRIVATE SESSION ONE ON ONE OR IN A PHONE CALL OR EVEN AN EMAIL WHICH WHICH OPENS UP A DOOR FOR PRIVATE COMMUNICATION. IF I NEED TO SHAVE MEETING I NEED TO ASK FOR IT IN PUBLIC. THAT'S LEGALLY REQUIRED OF THEM TO HAVE A SHADE MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A DISCUSSION AND SETTLEMENT DISCUSSIONS ET CETERA AND YOU'D ASK THAT IN PUBLIC AND THEY GET A SCHEDULED FOR ANOTHER SESSION. IF IT BE THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION TO EITHER MOVE MY REPORT ELSEWHERE OR TO LIMIT MY REPORT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM I WOULD RESPECTFULLY AGREE THAT THAT WOULD BE I WOULD FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE. SO TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE MIGHT MY MAIN CONCERN ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC IS WHEN I NEED TO MAKE A REQUEST FOR A SHADE MEETING OR NEEDED TO GIVE YOU SOME LEGAL ADVICE ON A PARTICULAR MATTER THAT MAY OR MAY BE OCCURRING BUT IF IT'S AN AGENDA I'M GOING TO COMMENT ON THE AGENDA ITEM WHEN AND WHEN THAT TIME COMES UP. SO I'M HIGHLY DEFERENTIAL IN THIS SITUATION. I TRY TO LIMIT MY PRESENTATIONS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE PREEMINENT NEED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION PERIODICALLY AND ONLY IF IT'S NECESSARY. WELL I MAKE ONE AND THE LAST NUMBER OF MEETINGS I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN DEFERENTIAL NOT HAD ANY REPORTS BECAUSE IT'S NOTHING TO REPORT LEGISLATURE FOR EXAMPLE WAS WINDING UP ITS LAST LAP JUST ENDED ON 
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SATURDAY AND THERE MAY BE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT LATER. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT WAS IMPORTANT IN THE EARLY PARTS OF THE SESSION FOR EXAMPLE TO GIVE YOU OUR REPORT AND AGAIN CAN WE GIVE YOU A SENSE FOR WHAT'S COMING IN THE SESSION BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT I CAN BE LIMITED IN TIME OR LIMITED IN SCOPE I'M HAPPY TO BE DIFFERENT DEFERENTIAL EXCEPT FOR THOSE LEGAL ISSUES WHICH I MUST REPORT BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. THE MANAGER. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE. DO YOU HAVE ANY BURNING DESIRE TO REMAIN WHERE YOU ARE OR TO. DO YOU HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT BEING PUT AFTER. SO IS THIS THE CITY I WANT TO GO ON TO EXPAND UPON WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT I WILL PRESENT MY REPORT WHEN IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA WHEREVER IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA. SO BASICALLY AT THIS TIME IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS CONSENSUS TO ACTUALLY THERE IS NOT UNTIL WE GO THROUGH IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A KIND OF I DON'T CARE FROM THE CORNER WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER FISHERY WITH AND WITH NO TIMEFRAME. WE'VE GOT THE VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER GO IN WITH AT THE END BUT MOVING EVERYBODY'S REPORTS ON IT. I'M AFRAID WE'RE NOT MOVING WELL HE IS FAST IN FAVOR OF NOT MOVING IT BUT THERE IS MORE CONSENSUS TO MOVING IT THAN FOR THE PART OF NOT MOVING IT. SO YOUR SECOND ITEM ON YOUR LIST OF THAT YOU SAID IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TO MOVE IT TO THE END WITH EVERYBODY REPORTS ON THE BOTTOM SO I WON'T BE THE HOLD UP SINCE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER NOT CARE IF THEY GET MOVE THEN THERE SEEMS TO BE AT LEAST THREE 4 MOVING IT FOR THE END WITH NO TIMEFRAME AND ALL OF COURSE ON THE END STAFF AND PARTS INCLUDED. ADAM IF I COULD JUST FOR A MOMENT AND ASK EACH CUSTOMER I MEAN TO CORRECT YOUR VERBIAGE. 
          WE DO CARE OBVIOUSLY BUT YES WE HAVE AND WE CARE IN A PROFESSIONAL WAY THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE DICTATED BY THE CHARTER OF THE CODE OR STATE LAW AND I DON'T MEAN A SUGGESTION OUT NEWTON RIGHT THEN REPHRASING IT. IT'S NOT THAT YOU DON'T CARE. IT'S JUST THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF MOVING THINGS ALONG AND DOING THINGS TOGETHER AS A COHESIVE UNIT WE WILL BE DEFERENTIAL AS AS YOU ARE SAYING PUT YOU WHEREVER WE NEED TO PLACE YOU. AND AS THE COMMISSION REPORTS SEEM TO BE MOVING TO THE END. THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO MOVE STAFF REPORTS AT THAT TIME AS WELL. YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO. YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I STILL THINK THERE'S A REQUEST TO MOVE IT TO THE END BY CONSENT. I MEAN BY A MAJORITY I MEAN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON POINTED OUT AT THE LAST WORKSHOP IS THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT HE HIGHLIGHTED THE LAST MEETING WAS WHEN COMMISSIONER FISHMAN TALKED ABOUT HER TIME IN TALLAHASSEE AND SOME OF THE PROJECT SHE WAS WORKING ON. IT PROMPTED ONE OF THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS TO COME UP AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT SHE WAS WORKING ON. 
          SO IN THE INTERESTS OF TRANSPARENCY BEING OPEN AND EDUCATING THE RESIDENTS AND VOTERS AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THE IDEAS ARE WORKING LONG I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IT IN THE BEGINNING WHEN MOST OF THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS WHO EVER DECIDE TO SHOW UP ARE STILL PRESENT A FEW MICHIGAN AS ALSO HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE AND IS NOT GIVING UP. TRANSPARENCY IS NOT GIVING UP THAT ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE AND LET ME KNOW THE INFORMATION IS A TIMING ISSUE. VICE MAYOR JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR I'M GOOD EITHER WAY. WE WANT TO LEAVE THEM WHERE WE ARE IF WE WANT TO MOVE THEM ALL TO THE END. YOU KNOW I'M GOOD. I. I THINK WE WE MAY BE TALKING APPLES AND ORANGES A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE COMMISSIONER FISHMAN SAID MOVE IT TO THE END WITH NO TIME LIMIT. BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT THING. NO IF SHE WANTS IT SPECIFICALLY MOVED TO THE END MAYBE WHERE I'M GOING TO GO BACK AROUND NOW AND TRY TO CUT KNOW HOURS TO TRY TO CLARIFY THIS BECAUSE THE THING IS THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR TIME LIMITS THIS DID NOT COME OUT OF A HAT OF CONVERSATION STARTER FOR A REASON. YOU START THE CONVERSATION IS YOUR ITEM COMMISSIONER GALLON REALLY ACTUALLY YOU DON'T FULLY KNOW THAT WHAT YOU SPEAK ABOUT. OK. SO BASICALLY THERE WAS CONCERNS REGARDING TIMING. THERE WAS SAID IF THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR EITHER TIMING MAKING A TIMEFRAME ON IT AND HAVING IT IN FIVE MINUTES OR MOVING IT TO THE END WITH THERE NOT BEING A CAP. SO THANK YOU FOR THE CREDIT YOU WISH TO GIVE ME ANYWAY. SO I'M GOING TO START BACK AROUND DOWN THE TABLE. COMMISSIONER FISHMAN WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT. MOVE IT TO THE END NO TIME FRAME. ARE YOU OK WITH THE STAFF REPORTS BEING MOVED INTO. YES. OK MR. GALLON. NO NO MOVEMENT. OK. VICE MAYOR I HATE TO PUT IT IN THESE TERMS BUT I DON'T CARE WHERE 
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IT GOES. SO IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY FEELS STRONGLY THAT IF YOU FEEL STRONG I'M GOOD. IT IS WHERE IT IS. MAYBE WITH OR WITHOUT TIME FRAME THEN ON IT. BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN REGARDING THE LENGTH OF TIME. I THINK THAT THE PAST ALL OF US. TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE TIME FRAME THAT THEY'RE TAKING UP AND WE'RE ADULTS AND LET US BEHAVE LIKE ADULTS AND USING THAT TIMELINE FOR WHAT IF I DON'T WHAT ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS. MR. MARTIN IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT ZIGGY DISEASES DO WE NEED A NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD THAT WE KNOW THE DISEASE A PERSON I'M PLAYING ONLINE. GET THE D THEY GET Z WITH ADDRESS FACEBOOK. SAYS IF REPORTS ARE ALL IN THE BEGINNING THAT WOULD THEN GIVE RESIDENTS WHO ATTEND TO BE HEARD HAVE THE OPTION TO SHOW UP LATE AFTER THE REPORT SO SHE IS SAYING THAT COMMISSION REPORTS WOULD STAY AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE THIS WOULD GIVE RESIDENTS THE ABILITY TO SHOW UP LATE TO THE MEETINGS TO COMMENT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. IF THE IF THE COMMISSION REPORTS ARE MOVED TO THE END THEN THAT JUST MAKES ALL OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA GO EARLY AND MAYBE RESIDENTS ARE NOT ABLE TO SHOP EARLY. SO YOU KNOW I THINK THE. I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD STAY WHERE THEY ARE ON THE REPORT AND JUST BE COGNIZANT OF THE TIME AND BE RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S TIMES. 
          THEY'VE DONE THAT RIGHT MAN. IF. YOU REALLY WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION ON THE RECORD I'VE BEEN THERE. ALL I DO SOMETIMES IS SAY I DON'T HAVE A REPORT. 
          HERE'S MY FACEBOOK ADDRESS AND MY PHONE NUMBER AND I MOVE ON. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I DO. MOST TIMES EVERY MEETING AND THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE ASSIGNMENT. I'LL GIVE YOU YOUR YES ON THAT ONE. GOOD. YEAH. SO YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT IS. AND I'VE BEEN RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME. AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW WE SHOULD WE SHOULD WE SHOULD DO THAT. SOPHIE AND SAYS SENDING WELL WISHES TO TAMARA MAYOR. MICHELE KELEMEN THANKS. HARTLEY THANK YOU. I THINK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEVEN MORE TO GO. AND DOING WELL SO THANK YOU FOR THE LOVE IN THE HEART. OK SO NOW WE ARE COMPLETELY NOT WHERE WE WERE EVEN 20 MINUTES AGO. SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE'RE LEAVING EVERYTHING AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THINGS HAVE A WAY OF CHANGING ON A MONDAY FROM WHAT I SAID ON A MONDAY TO A WEDNESDAY. SO AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN TIME WE DO NOT HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THE CHANGE. SO LIKE THE OTHER TWO ITEMS BEFORE IT REPORTS WILL STAY WHERE THEY ARE AND THERE WILL BE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE AMENDED LANGUAGE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. BETTER. YEAH PLEASE. I THINK A MEMORANDUM. YES WELL WE'RE NOT YET THERE. I'M ALMOST THERE. OK GUYS UNFORTUNATELY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THERE'S STILL EIGHT WHICH I THINK WILL WIND UP BEING SOMETHING WE CAN VERY QUICKLY DISPOSE OF. CONSIDERING THAT H RULES ARE CONDUCTING BUSINESS CONDUCTING BUSINESS H1 B MISSION IMPORTANT A MEMBER MAY SPEAK TO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES WITHOUT WHILE PRESENTING MISSION REPORTS AND THEN C WAS A LIMITATION ON THE SUBSECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO MISS REPORTS AS THERE'S BEEN NO CONSENSUS TO COMMISSION REPORTS BEING LIMITED OTHER THAN THE. AND I WANT THIS ON THE RECORD. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN JULIE. COMMISSIONER FISHMAN DO YOU AGREE THAT YOU WILL DO ALL THAT YOU CAN TO KEEP YOUR REPORTS WITHIN A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME. YES. AND ACTUALLY I'LL ALSO ADD THAT KEEPING IN MIND THE MEETING THAT WE'RE HAVING AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND AT EDIT CURRENTLY IF NECESSARY. YES COMMISSIONER GONG. SURE. 
          HOW DO YOU DEFINE A REASONABLE ESTIMATE AS ANY REASONABLE HUMAN BEING WOULD BE ABLE TO THE COURSE AS I SAID YOU KNOW PROBABLY HAVE TO COVER TWO WEEKS WORTH. THERE'S NOT MUCH I HAVEN'T DONE MUCH IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS IN TERMS OF A LOT OF ACTIVITIES. BUT 
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IN GENERAL IT'S EVEN IF YOU'VE DONE A LOT. SOMETIMES WE WIND UP HAVING TO SAY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN I'VE DONE A LOT MORE HAPPY TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. I MEAN YOU KNOW TO BE HONEST WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT TAKES UP THE MOST TIME IS THESE PROCLAMATIONS ANNIVERSARY AND YOU WOULD ON THE VARIOUS 15 YEARS WHEN YOU'RE. OUR EMPLOYEES APPRECIATE THE UNION AND THEY DESERVE IT SO WE'RE NOT GOING THERE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THIS LONG BUT WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THE INTERESTS OF TIME SO THOSE ARE NAMES I THINK A LOT OF TIME I'M TRYING TO GET THIS PART DONE. SO YES. OK YES. IS IT YES OR NO PLEASE. WITH WITH WITH ONE WITH ONE SUGGESTION I WATCH THE CITY OF MIRAMAR MISSION REPORTS. I THINK I THINK HER POINTS ARE REALLY COOL. YOU KNOW MR. GALAN DOES NOT. I'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE AND I'LL DO A FOUR MINUTE VIDEO. 
          COMMISSIONER BOLTON WHATEVER. MAKES YOU HAPPY. YEAH RIGHT. BUT WE ARE THE CITY OF TAMARACK WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD JUST EMBRACE AND REMEMBER. CITY MIRAMAR DOES THAT AT THE END. SO BEFORE WE WANT TO GO ON BACKWARDS LET'S NOT AT THIS RATE SINCE ANY OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE PROPOSED NONE OF THE CHANGES WOULD BE ACCEPTED. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO ASK YOU TO NOT EVEN BOTHER. WELL WHAT IF I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST SO I'M CLEAR. SO H 1 B WHERE IT SAYS FOR THE COMMISSION REPORT TIME WHERE WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING THAT CHANGE. CORRECT. BUT WE'RE ALSO SAYING THAT THE LIMITATIONS FOR THE FIVE MINUTE FILIBUSTERING DOESN'T APPLY TO COMMISSION REPORTS SO IN OTHER WORDS YOU'RE AN INSTIGATOR. NO I JUST PREPARATION THIS ALL COME BACK. HE'S RIGHT. CALLS THEM AS HE SEES THEM IS RIGHT. SO BASICALLY THIS IS MY COLLEAGUES WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ONE BECAUSE IF IT AS IT STANDS WE ARE ON H 1 NEWLY LETTERED C AND IT STANDS. WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT HAS NOT BEEN ENFORCED ON ANYBODY DESPITE MAYBE THERE BEING A FEW REASONS TO DO SO. NO MEMBER MAY FILIBUSTER. NO MEMBER MAY SPEAK MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES CONTINUOUSLY EXCEPT BY LEAVE A MAJORITY BY THE MAYOR ON THE DECISION OF THE MAYOR IS FINAL UNLESS A MAJORITY OF THE CITY COMMISSION VOTES. TO THE CONTRARY LIMITATION THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE LIMITATIONS SET FORTH IN THIS SUBSECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO COMMISSION REPORTS SO THIS INDIRECTLY SAYING THAT COMMISSION REPORTS CAN LAST. NO THEY CAN'T. AND IF IT IS SAYING THAT IT IS SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW IT IS RIGHT NOW IN LINE. RIGHT. SO IT DOES SAY THAT IT DOESN'T APPLY TO COMMISSION PARTS BUT THEN IT ALSO IN WHEN MY UNDERSTANDING MAKES IT FOR ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE DAIS UNLESS WE REMOVE THAT PART BECAUSE THE INTENT OF THE THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PREPARED WAS THAT THE WITH THE COMMISSION REPORTS BEING MOVED TO THE END THAT YOU MAY WANT TO EXPAND THE TIME OF FIVE MINUTES TO X TIME WHICH WAS GOING TO BE DECIDED HERE TODAY IF THE DECISION NOW IS NOT TO TO REMOVE THE COMMISSION REPORTS TO THE END OF THE MEETING. AND YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION OF TIMEFRAMES. YOU MAY NOT WANT TO EXPAND THE TIME BIT BEYOND FIVE MINUTES WHICH CURRENTLY SITS AT OR YOU MAY NOT CARE BECAUSE YOU WENT THROUGH AND POLLED EVERYONE THAT THEY WOULD BE REASONABLE WHICH IS I ASSUME THAT'S WHY YOU ARE DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY MAY GO BEYOND FIVE MINUTES BUT STILL BE REASONABLE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR PURPOSES OF DRAFTING AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT WILL CREATE SOME ISSUES THAT I THINK BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT IT'S NOT UM IT'S NOT QUITE CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW TO ME AT LEAST I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT AND WAIT. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST DO SOMETHING SORT OF UNIQUE JUST RIP THIS DOCUMENT FROM THE MEETING TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA ON HAVE AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. HOPE THAT YOU'RE KEEPING IN MIND THOUGH YOU IT'S IT FIRST. I KNOW WE NEED A BATHROOM BREAK BUT WE'RE ALMOST DONE BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING ELSE ON OUR AGENDA. SO IT'S AND THEN RESPOND QUICKLY TO AFTER YOUR COLLECTIVE THINKING YOU'RE QUITTING IS ACCURATE NEWS ANALYSIS THAT SAYS WHAT IT SAYS IN YOUR PROPOSED CHANGE MEANS WHAT IT MEANS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT BE THE WISH OF THE COMMISSION TO DO NOTHING ABOUT THE PROPOSAL. IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR FIRST READING. YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO ONE OF SEVERAL THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO. I'M SORRY I 
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MEANT TO DELETE. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU CAN BASICALLY JUST SIMPLY PULL IT FROM THE AGENDA ON WEDNESDAY OR THEORETICALLY YOU COULD YOU COULD YOU COULD PASS ON OUR FIRST READING OR YOU COULD ESSENTIALLY ENTER FURTHER INDEFINITELY OR YOU COULD ESSENTIALLY MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER INDEFINITELY TO TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE INDEFINITELY. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN KNOWING SIGHS EVERYBODY ZAHRA'S BATH AND BRING ON IT. I WANT TO OFFER CONSENSUS THAT I AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THIS COMMISSION RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE THIS FAR. WE'D LIKE TO PULL IT FROM THE AGENDA ON MONDAY WEDNESDAY AND THAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A FIVE MINUTE LIMITATION FOR FILIBUSTERING. FILIBUSTERING IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE COMMISSION REPORTS IS HOW I SEE IT. FILIBUSTERING IS TAKING ONE ITEM AND JUST PLAYING ISN'T ALL ALONG. AND THEREFORE I DON'T THINK THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WOULD APPLY. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S NO REASON FOR CONCERN ON THIS ONE BY THE COMMISSION. SO CONSENSUS COMMISSION PRESIDENT TO PASS YES COMMISSIONER BOLTON I GUESS WE'LL GIVE US AN ANSWER. VICE MAYOR. GO AHEAD. YES YES. 
          THAT MEANS TO THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA RECOGNIZE. OK. NOW I'M ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY CLERK TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO REMOVE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FROM OUR IF I MAY I DON'T NEED IT TO TO COUNTERMAND YOUR THINKING. 
          YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY THIS MORNING TO TELL US IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT BECAUSE IT'S AN ORDINANCE IT'S ON FIRST READING. THE ANSWER IS ON WEDNESDAY EVENING IT'LL BE THE CHOICE OF THE COMMISSION TO TABLE IT INDEFINITELY OR TO ASK TO BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA. IT'LL BE GONE ON APPROPRIATE MOTION. SO WE'LL PROBABLY DO A MOTION TO REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IT IS CURRENTLY LESS THAN 24 HAVE A GREAT MONDAY SEE YOU ON WEDNESDAY. THANK YOU. 
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.