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WELCOME TO OUR WEDNESDAY, JUNE 28 COMMISSION MEETING.IT IS CURRENTLY 9:30 AM AND WE ARE GOING TO ROCK AND ROLL TODAY.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR GOMEZ.
>> VICE MAYOR BOLSON. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DANIEL AND VICE MAYOR ARE NOW WALKING IN THE ROOM.
AS THEY DO SO, AS SOON AS COMMISSIONER DANIEL GETS TO THE DAIS, YOU WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, SO IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND.
THEN WE WILL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE THEREAFTER.
>> THANK YOU, PLEASE BE SEATED.
>> CITY ATTORNEY, PIMA RHINE, ANY REPORT?
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. NO REPORT.
[2. CITY MANAGER REPORT]
>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.
WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS TO SHARE WITH YOU.
WE'VE JUST RECEIVED WORD THAT ALL OF TAMARAC'S FUNDING REQUEST FOR A TOTAL OF $1.4 MILLION IN THE FISCAL YEAR '23/'24 STATE BUDGET WERE APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR, REALLY.
[APPLAUSE] THE APPROVED PROJECTS INCLUDE TAMARAC STONEWALL RECOVERED HEADWALLS IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PHASE 7, THAT'S WORTH $400,000.
TAMARAC WATER TREATMENT PLAN CONTROL BUILDING, $600,000 TOWARDS THAT.
FLORIDA RECREATION DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GRANT FOR CAPORELLA PARK FOR $200,000.
FLORIDA RECREATION DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM GRANT FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER AWARDED $200,000.
WE'D ESPECIALLY LIKE TO THANK OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES WHO HELPED SPONSOR THESE PROJECTS.
WE WILL ALSO BE NOTIFIED BY THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS THAT THE CITY HAS WON THE MAYOR'S MUNICIPAL INNOVATION AWARD IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE AWARD CATEGORY FOR THE CITY'S PET PANTRY PROJECT.
THE CITY WILL BE RECOGNIZED DURING THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYOR'S BUSINESS MEETING ON AUGUST 9 DURING THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE.
AS WE CONTINUE TO CELEBRATE OUR 60TH ANNIVERSARY, THERE ARE A FEW EXCITING UPCOMING EVENTS THAT I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE OF.
WE INVITE EVERYONE TO COME AND CELEBRATE THE BIGGEST AND BEST BIRTHDAY PARTY IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC AT OUR ALL-AMERICAN CELEBRATION EVENT.
WE WILL HAVE A FREE OUTDOOR CONCERT, KIDS' AREA WITH INFLATABLES, FACE PAINTING, ARTS AND CRAFTS, AND FOOD TRUCKS.
AND THE NIGHT IS NOT OVER UNTIL AFTER THE IMPRESSIVE AND CHOREOGRAPH FIREWORKS DISPLAY WHICH KICKS OFF PROMPTLY AT 9:00 PM.
THERE'S LIMITED ON-SITE PARKING, SO WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO USE THE FREE SHUTTLE SERVICE FROM TAMARAC CITY HALL AND THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER.
THE SHUTTLE WILL RUN FROM 5:30 PM TO 8:15 PM AND FOLLOWING THE FIREWORKS.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE TAMARAC SHINES BRIGHT LIKE A DIAMOND 60TH ANNIVERSARY BASH THAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON JULY 19 AT THE CITY'S BIRTHDAY AT THE CITY OF TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE WE WILL PAY HOMAGE TO OUR CITY'S HISTORY AND PIONEERS.
THE EVENT WILL FEATURE LIVE MUSIC, DANCING, LIGHT REFRESHMENTS, AND GIVEAWAYS.
SPACE IS LIMITED, SO GUESTS ARE ASKED TO REGISTER IN ADVANCE AT TAMARAC.ME/EVENTS OR BY CALLING THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF FESTIVITIES CELEBRATING THE CITY'S 60TH ANNIVERSARY.
ONE LAST ITEM, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT ALL CITY FACILITIES WILL BE CLOSED ON TUESDAY, JULY 4TH IN OBSERVANCE OF THE HOLIDAY.
THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
WE WILL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
[3.PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ]
EVERYONE, RULES FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ARE ON THE SCREEN WITH THE KEY ONES BEING THAT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND LOCATION IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO GIVE YOUR ADDRESS.
WE KEEP THINGS RESPECTABLE HERE.
GIVE EVERYBODY A QUICK SECOND TO READ.
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>> GOOD MORNING. HERE WE ARE AGAIN MANY MONTHS LATER AND I AM BACK ADDRESSING THE SAME OLD ISSUES OF OUR MONIES AND THE COMMISSION'S MISUSE.
ON HIS CAMPAIGN, MOREY WRIGHT ADVOCATED FOR ABOLISHING THE CAR ALLOWANCE.
HE EVEN MADE REFERENCE TO IT AT THE BUDGET MEETING.
HE LISTS THE CAR WITH HIS CAR ALLOWANCE, SUGGESTING HE DID NOT HAVE ONE AND EVEN COMMENTED HE NEEDS THE GAS ALLOWANCE BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO SHARE THE CAR WITH HIS MOTHER.
THAT IS NOT OUR TAXPAYERS' PROBLEM.
AS THE ATTORNEY POINTED OUT, HE CANNOT DO THAT.
THEREFORE, NOW HE DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE CAR ALLOWANCE.
WHERE IS THE INTEGRITY? HOW CAN YOU CAMPAIGN ONE THING, GET ELECTED AND THEN FEED YOUR POCKET? THAT IS GROSSLY INAPPROPRIATE.
BOLTON AND VILLALOBOS AT THE BUDGET MEETING ARE BOTH WILLING TO GIVE UP THEIR CAR ALLOWANCE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, VILLALOBOS HAS ALREADY STOPPED TAKING PAYMENTS.
KICIA, NEW TO THE COMMISSION, SAID SHE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT KEEPING OR GIVING IT UP, BUT WHEN HER VOTE CAME, SHE STATED SHE WANTED TO KEEP IT.
THIS WAS ALL AT THE BUDGET MEETING.
OUR MAYOR WHO I RESPECT AND LIKE SAID SHE DID NOT WANT TO BE THE WITCH TO VOTE AGAINST THE CAR ALLOWANCE.
INSTEAD SHE SAID, "OKAY FOLKS, IT'S 2-2.
WE KEEP THE CAR ALLOWANCE." HOLD ON. THE MAYOR DIDN'T VOTE.
ALSO, LET'S LOOK AT A FEW THINGS.
THE MAYOR SAID, "EVERYONE IS ALL HUNG UP ON THIS $700 CAR ALLOWANCE.
BUT HOW ABOUT THE 25,000 DISCRETIONARY FUND?" I THOUGHT THAT WAS VOTED OUT AND APPARENTLY IT'S STILL IN.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COMMISSION? ARE WE HERE TO SUPPORT THEIR POCKETS? NOW, IN FAIRNESS, THE MAYOR IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DESERVES THE CAR ALLOWANCE AND SHE'D BE THE ONLY ONE WHO DESERVES IT.
AS FAR AS THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE CITY WHO GET CAR ALLOWANCE, THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO EXPLORE THAT AND DECREASE IT ACCORDINGLY.
NOW, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE WASHINGTON DC TRIP.
I UNDERSTAND IT WAS A THREE-DAY BUSINESS TRIP.
BUT ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD A BIRTHDAY, SO THEY TOOK THEIR FAMILY UP AND SPENT FIVE DAYS.
HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A HOTEL PARKING BILL FOR $90 THAT WAS CHARGED TO THE CITY WHEN IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORK INVOLVED ON THIS THREE-DAY CONFERENCE.
THEREFORE, I'M GOING TO PUT IN A PUBLIC REQUEST FOR THE ENTIRE AMOUNT THAT WAS REIMBURSED BY EVERYBODY, BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING PEOPLE WERE ALIGNING THEIR POCKETS AND IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE.
ARE WE BACK TO CORRUPT SPENDING? THIS NEEDS TO STOP.
I ALREADY SAID THAT, A COMPLETE BREAKDOWN.
LASTLY, WHY ARE WE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, BE DONE IN 10 SECONDS.
>> AND YET NOTHING CHANGES. VERY SAD.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW WE'RE STRICT ON TIME, AS WE SAW AT OUR LAST MEETINGS, WHEN WE ARE NOT, WE HAVE SOME ISSUES, SO PLEASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR UNDERSTANDING.
CAROL MENDELSON, PLEASE PROCEED.
MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I ATTENDED THE BUDGET WORKSHOP ON JUNE 21.
WHILE STAFF DID ITS DUE DILIGENCE AND PREPARATION, WE COULD NOT GET THROUGH THE WORKSHOP WITHOUT THE MUTTERING, EYEBALL ROLLING, AND NITPICKING AMONG ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THE PRETENSE OF SAVING CONSTITUENTS' MONEY WAS EVIDENT.
THE 2024 BUDGET IS APPROXIMATELY $20 MILLION MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, HERE'S WHY.
IN ORDER TO COMPLETE TAMARAC VILLAGE AMPHITHEATER, AN ADDITIONAL $639,000 IS NEEDED.
THE SHAKER VILLAGE PROJECT APPRAISALS REQUIRE AN $800 -$1 MILLION INCREASE.
$37,000 INCREASE IN FLIERS, WHICH DON'T ALWAYS GET TO YOU IN A TIMELY MANNER, 35,000 FOR TREE CONSULTANT, $19 MILLION TO BSO POLICE, AND THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A NEW CITY HALL AND SO MUCH MORE.
THE INFAMOUS $700 MONTHLY CAR ALLOWANCE WAS ADDRESSED AND WILL NEVER BE MODIFIED OR ENDED REGARDLESS OF CAMPAIGN PROMISES, LEASES TO BE PAID OR CONSTITUENT WISHES.
THAT IS $42,000 FOR CAR ALLOWANCE ANNUALLY.
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PERHAPS SOME OF THE CAR ALLOWANCE MONEY SHOULD BE DONATED TO LIFE RING TO SAVE LIVES, SINCE I DON'T RECALL HEARING CONSENSUS ON IT AT THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETING.YET UNBELIEVABLY A $6.10 INCREASE PER MONTH EQUALING ABOUT $70 ANNUALLY TO TAXPAYERS IS IN QUESTION FOR AN INCREASE IN FIRE ASSESSMENT FEES.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FIRE ASSESSMENT INCREASE IN SEVEN YEARS, EXCUSE ME.
SUDDENLY WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE TAXPAYER AND SAVING US MONEY AND THINK THAT JOINING BSO FIRE MAY BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT BE MISLEAD, BSO CHARTS OF OTHER CITIES MAY APPEAR TO BE LESS COSTLY, BUT THERE ARE NUMEROUS VARIABLES.
MONEY MAY BE TAKEN FROM DIFFERENT FUNDS AND MOVED, GIVING THE ILLUSION OF BEING LESS COSTLY, WHILE OURS COMES EXCLUSIVELY FROM ONE FUND, MAKING IT APPEAR MORE COSTLY.
REMEMBER, IF IT LOOKS TOO GOOD, IT PROBABLY IS.
FIRE STATION 36 BROKE GROUND IN 2019.
IT'S ALMOST FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE FIRE TRUCK.
THIS CAUSES A POSSIBLE MINUTE DELAY IN SERVICES WHEN ANOTHER STATION HAS TO COVER.
YET YOU QUESTION APPROVING A $6.10 MONTHLY INCREASE FOR THE FIRE ASSESSMENT.
RESIDENTS MUST FIGHT TO KEEP TAMARAC FIRE AND APPROVAL OF THE FIRE ASSESSMENT.
COMMISSIONERS, THERE ARE TWO CONFLICTING EVENTS TAKING PLACE TONIGHT.
YOU WERE ASKED TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ANOTHER EVENING.
ANOTHER REQUEST IGNORED. THANK YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, PATTI LYNN, MAINLAND'S EIGHT.
I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT AND THE TIME OF PARKING ON THE STREET.
I'M INVITING ALL OF YOU TO COME THROUGH MY COMMUNITY MAINLAND'S EIGHT WE'RE BETWEEN 64TH AVENUE AND 70TH AVENUE, BETWEEN 57TH STREET AND 59TH STREET IS ACTUALLY ONLY GOES TO 58TH COURT.
IT'S A SENIOR COMMUNITY, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
THE STREETS ARE LINED WITH PARKED CARS 24 HOURS A DAY.
WE HAVE SENIORS WHO ARE WALKING.
THEY HAVE TO WALK AROUND PARKED CARS.
THEY DON'T HEAR CARS COMING BECAUSE EVERYBODY DOESN'T WEAR THE HEARING AIDS THEY WERE PRESCRIBED BECAUSE IT GIVES THEM TOO MUCH NOISE.
THIS IS A LAW IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
WHEN SOMEBODY GETS KILLED, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, "WELL, I VOTED FOR IT BUT NOBODY ELSE DID." AND THAT'S A CRACKER CRAP.
IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS TO DO THAT, AND YOU NEED TO DO IT.
DON'T TELL ME, "OH, THEY CAN AFFORD TO WIDEN THEIR DRIVEWAYS." THEY WERE TOLD WHEN THEY MOVED IN, THEY HAD TO, DON'T GET ANOTHER CAR.
WE AS A COMMUNITY CANNOT TOW CARS FROM THE STREET, WE AS A COMMUNITY CANNOT TOW FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THAT IS A POLICE FUNCTION AND A CITY FUNCTION, YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO LET US LIVE PEACEABLY, PLEASE.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUDGET, ABOUT THE ALLOWANCES THAT YOU ALL HAVE VOTED FOR YOURSELF.
I'M VERY ENERGETIC FOR SOMEBODY MY AGE, I HAVE BEEN ALL MY LIFE, YET, I DON T KNOW HOW I COULD POSSIBLY HOLD DOWN THREE FULL-TIME JOBS LIKE THE VICE MAYOR DOES.
IF YOU NEED CAR ALLOWANCE BECAUSE IT'S A FULL-TIME JOB.
WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE TIME TO FULL-TIME JOB FOR THE COUNTY, WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB FOR YOUR CHURCH WHO IS NOT GETTING THEIR FAIR SHARE BECAUSE IT CAN'T HAPPEN.
THAT DOESN'T EVEN TAKE INTO CONSULTING AND COUNSELING COMMISSIONERS FROM OTHER CITIES ON HOW TO VOTE.
PLEASE, IF YOU CAN'T GIVE US WHAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO GIVE US, DO THE RIGHT THING AND RESIGN.
>> THANK YOU PATTI LYNN, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T SIGN UP? WE HAVE STEWART WEBSTER.
>> STEWART WEBSTER, VERSAILLES GARDENS DISTRICT 2.
ALL PROTOCOL OBSERVED MORNING.
MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I WISH WHEN SOME OF US COME UP TO SPEAK,
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WE ALL HAVE JUSTIFIABLE POSITIONS, WE ALL HAVE VARIOUS LEVELS OF RESPECT AND DISRESPECT.BUT I WISH SOME OF US WOULD REALIZE THAT DISRESPECT DOESN'T DO IT.
[NOISE] SUBJECT TO CORRECTION, PERSONS LIKE MYSELF AND OTHERS, USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND RAISE ISSUES THAT INVOLVE CRITICIZING WRONG DOINGS OR INADEQUACIES IN THE CITY.
MOST OF THE TIME WE FOCUS ON THE COMMISSIONERS AND OUR SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIALS.
WELL, THIS MORNING WHILE I VERY OFTEN ON ONE OF THOSE PERSONS, I NEED TO BE DIFFERENT TODAY.
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, I'VE HAD TO REACH OUT TO A NUMBER OF MANAGERS, SUPERVISORS, AND STAFF IN TAMARAC.
I CONTINUE TO BE VERY PROUD THAT THEY WORK FOR OR ARE EMPLOYED IN OUR FAIR CITY.
I PHRASE IT THAT WAY BECAUSE AS A RESIDENT OF TAMARAC FOR VERY MANY YEARS, SOME OF US HAVE SEEN AND HEARD ABOUT THE HIGH LEVEL OF DEMORALIZING ABUSE AND STRESS METED OUT TO STAFF BY THEIR SUPERIORS.
PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE I'M GENERALIZING HERE, I VENTURE THAT IN SOME AREAS, THIS MAY BE JUST AS MUCH OF THE RULE AS THE EXCEPTION.
SINCE THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, I'VE HAD TO INTERFACE WITH LITERALLY A NUMBER OF LEVELS OF STAFF AND WOULD LOVE TO SHARE THE GRATIFYING RESULTS.
BUT KEEP THOSE DETAILS TO MYSELF, AS THERE ARE SOME DIP STICKS BOTH IN AND OUT OF THIS ROOM, WHO, WHEN MY NAME IS ATTACHED OR MENTIONED, ARE MORE INTERESTED IN DEMEANING THOSE REQUESTS OR OVER TO YOURS THAN SEEING TO THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.
SEEING THAT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY OF SATISFACTORILY TAKEN CARE OF.
WITHIN THE PAST SEVERAL BUSINESS DAYS SO I WAS VERY AWARE OF TWO MAJOR CONCERNS THAT WERE DEALT WITH PROFESSIONALLY AND EXPEDITIOUSLY, BOTH IN AND OUT OF MY DISTRICT.
VERY MANY OF US TAKE THESE MOMENTS OF HIGH COMPETENCE FOR GRANTED.
WE MUST FIND THE TIME TO STEP UP AND PUBLICLY TALK ABOUT THEM.
TAMARAC WORKERS, YOU KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, AND MR. WEBSTER, IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ABOUT THE LIST OF PEOPLE YOU WANT TO GIVE THOSE, WE CALL THEM BRAVO'S TOO, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS NOW.
[NOISE] MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[4.CONSENT AGENDA]
CITY MANAGER, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS?>> I AM NOT SEEING ANY REQUESTS TO PULL ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION, THEREFORE, I'LL TAKE A SECOND TO MY MOTION.
>> SECONDED BOTH BY MYSELF AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS?
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> THANK YOU. NOW, MOVING TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA 5ATR13961.
[5.a TR13961 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, amending the community Development Department Fee Schedule, attached hereto as Exhibit “A”, adopting fees for landscaping and tree preservation, tree removal license modification, landscape review, bonus sleeping rooms, pre-application meeting, temporary sign permit & sale permit, legal agreement, and continuance/application deferral; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FEE SCHEDULE ATTACHED YOU TO AS EXHIBIT A, ADOPTING FEES FOR LANDSCAPING AND TREE PRESERVATION, TREE REMOVAL, LICENSED MODIFICATION, LANDSCAPE REVIEW, BONUS SLEEPING ROOMS, PRE APPLICATION MEETING, TEMPORARY SIGN, PERMIT AND SALE PERMIT, LEGAL AGREEMENT AND CONTINUANCE APPLICATION DEFERRAL, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
I WILL NOW OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
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>> MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO I RECEIVED AN EMAIL WITH SOMEONE ASKING QUESTIONS.
>> THAT THEY CAN'T BE PUTTING IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THROUGH.
>> THANK YOU. SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO OFFICIAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, MS. CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, WILL BE MAKING A PRESENTATION.
>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, IT'S MAXINE CALLOWAY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND YOUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM.
JUST SOME BACKGROUND, THE CODE OF ORDINANCES ALLOW THIS COMMISSION TO MAKE AMENDMENTS OR TO INTRODUCE NEW FEES BY RESOLUTION, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS MORNING.
THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FEE SCHEDULE WAS FIRST ADOPTED IN 1979 AND THEN WAS LAST AMENDED MARCH OF 2021.
WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA THIS MORNING? ON SECOND READING IS ITEM 8A, WHICH IS THE ADOPTION OF OUR TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, WHICH BRINGS THAT PROGRAM OVER TO THE CITY FROM BROWARD COUNTY AND AS YOU MIGHT RECALL AT THE LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THIS FEE SCHEDULE TO SUPPORT THAT ITEM.
IN ADDITION TO THE NEW FEES THAT WILL BE PROPOSING THIS MORNING FOR THE TREE REMOVAL PROGRAM.
THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO INCLUDE THIS MORNING.
THESE ARE THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE TREE PRESERVATION AND REMOVAL PROGRAM.
THE FEES WERE TAKEN FROM BROWARD COUNTY TO INTRODUCE AS THE NEW FEES FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC, $100 FOR INITIAL TO REMOVE A LICENSE IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL, IF IT'S NON-RESIDENTIAL THEN IT'S $150, AND THEN FOR EACH ADDITIONAL TREE, FOR RESIDENTIAL, DEPENDENT ON THE DIAMETER IT'S $25 AND $50 IF IT'S OVER 18 INCH IN DIAMETER.
THEN THERE'S PRICING AS WELL FOR TREE REMOVAL LICENSE MODIFICATION.
IF THERE'S A MODIFICATION THAT'S $75 AND THEN A PER TREE PRICE, DEPENDING ON THE DIAMETER, 18 INCH OR LESS, OR 18 INCHES OR MORE.
THERE'S ALSO AN AFTER-THE-FACT FEE, IF A TREE PERMIT IS BEING PULLED AFTER THE FACT, THAT'S $100 AND THEN FOR EACH ADDITIONAL TREE BASED ON THE DIAMETER AS WELL, THERE'S A PRICE ON THE SCHEDULE.
THIS SHOWS THE FEE SCHEDULE WITH SOME ADDITIONAL FEES THAT ARE BEING INTRODUCED.
EACH TIME WE MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE FEE SCHEDULE, WE TRY TO LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IS NOT UNDER SCHEDULE THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE.
THE BONUS SLEEPING ROOM, STAFF HAS ALWAYS HAD THIS APPLICATION, WE HAVE ALWAYS CHARGED $4,230.
IT'S SIMILAR TO THE FLEX UNIT AND THE REDEVELOPMENT UNITS, IT'S A POOL OF UNITS THAT THE COUNTY HAS ALLOCATED, THAT WE CAN PUT TOWARDS HOTEL CONSTRUCTION AND SO WHEN WE PULL FROM THAT POOL, WE HAVE TYPICALLY CHARGED $4,230, BUT THE ITEM ITSELF WAS NEVER INCLUDED IN OUR FEE SCHEDULE, SO WE'RE TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE IT.
WE'RE ALSO ADDING A LANDSCAPE REVIEW MINIMUM, WE'LL BE USING THE ARBORIST TO CONDUCT A PEER REVIEW, SO ON NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN AS A PART OF THE DRC, IT WOULD BE A COST RECOVERY FEE, THE DEVELOPER WILL PAY $1000 TO THE CITY AND ARBORIST WILL BE REVIEWING THOSE PLANS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
IT'S A PEER REVIEW THAT WOULD BE CONDUCTED AND THE DEVELOPER WILL BE PAYING THAT $1,000.
WE HAVE THE TEMPORARY SIGN PERMIT THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN, THAT'S $25 FEE, AND THE MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM APPLICATION $35, WE'VE TYPICALLY ASSESS THIS FEE, BUT IT WAS JUST NEVER INCLUDED IN OUR FEE SCHEDULE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS [NOISE] YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MS. MAXINE.
THESE QUESTIONS COME FROM A RESIDENT, AND IF YOU CAN JUST ANSWER THEM.
>> WHO IN THE CITY WILL ISSUE THE PERMIT?
>> THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WILL BE RETAINED AND A CONSULTANT, IT'S AN ARBORIST THAT WILL HELP WITH THE REVIEW OF THE APPLICATIONS, THE PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
>> OKAY. THEREBY, THE CONSULTANT THEMSELVES CAN HANDLE THE WORKLOAD.
IT'S NOT COMING FROM PERSONNEL FROM THE CITY.
>> YEAH. THE CONSULTANT IS CONDUCTING REVIEW, BUT THE PERMIT IS ISSUED BY THE CITY.
DO YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR THE PERMIT PROCESS TO GO THROUGH ONCE AN APPLICANT MAKES AN APPLICATION TO REMOVE A TREE?
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>> WE EXPECT IT TO BE VERY EFFICIENT IN JUST A FEW DAYS, THE ARBORIST IS ON STANDBY.
AS SOON AS A PERMIT IS RECEIVED, SHE'LL BE CONTACTED, SHE'LL COME IN AND CONDUCT A REVIEW AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ISSUE IN A FEW DAYS.
>> OKAY. THE FEE SCHEDULE IS BASED ON THE COUNTY'S FEE SCHEDULE?
>> THANK YOU, MS. MAXINE, THAT'S ALL THERE.
>> I ONLY HAVE TWO QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
WHEN YOU DO THIS FEE SCHEDULE IT SAID, FOR RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL.
WHAT DO WE DETERMINE ASSOCIATIONS TO BE, WHETHER IT'S A HOA OR A COA CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION ARE WE PLACING THEM AS RESIDENTIAL?
>> THAT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL IF THEY ARE PULLING THE PERMIT. YES.
>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME ASSOCIATIONS THAT HAVE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN THE MEDIANS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE A BUSINESS, BUT THEY'RE PART OF A COMMUNITY.
>> IT IS A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
>> GREAT. THEN THERE WAS A FEE FOR AFTER THE FACT AND WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE IT ON DIAMETER.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW THIS DIAMETER WHEN THE TREE IS NO LONGER THERE? I GUESS WE'LL GET BACK TO US ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU.
[LAUGHTER] OLD PICTURES CAN WRAP ARMS AROUND IT.
AGAIN I'VE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THE PROGRAM, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO HAVE PEOPLE YELLING AT US, THAT THEY'RE CHARGING US, WE'RE CHARGING HIM FOR AN OVER 18 AND IT WAS, IT'S JUST A TWIG. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> WHAT IF IT'S A HEDGE TURNED INTO A TREE LIKE WE HAVE IN PINE ISLAND MANY HOMEOWNERS HAVE HEDGES THAT HAVE TURNED INTO TREES AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY TREES, THEY'RE JUST A NUISANCE.
>> YEAH, BUT THIS IS FOR TREE, NOT FOR HEDGE, SO IF IT'S A HEDGE MATERIAL, THEN IT WOULDN'T.
>> WELL, YOU HAVE HEDGES THAT HAVE TURNED INTO A TREE.
>> WELL, IF IT QUALIFIES AS A TREE.
>> WELL, IF IT'S [LAUGHTER] [OVERLAPPING].
>> CODE HAS DISCRETION TO FIGURE THAT OUT, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> OR ARBORIST DOES? I THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER.
I'LL LET MAXINE SAY IT, IS THAT THE ANSWER?
[OVERLAPPING] THAT'S WHY WE'RE RELYING ON AN ARBORIST TO ASSIST WITH THE INSPECTION AS WELL AS WITH THE PERMIT ISSUANCE PROCESS.
>> LIKE A FICUS TREE THAT'S [LAUGHTER] TREE A HEDGE.
>> WELL, A FICUS TREE IS A FICUS TREE.
>> TASTE GREAT, LESS FILLING WE'LL GET IT TAKEN CARE.
THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER ON THAT SINCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SETTLE THAT ONE.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR BOLTON.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE NOW AT 5B TR13969,
[5.b TR13969 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, authorizing and directing, Howard Steinholz as co-trustee under the declaration of appointment of co-trustee dated April 13, 2016 of the Tamarac Land Trust Agreement dated July 10, 2013 to execute that certain termination of ground lease, for the commercial parcel, attached hereto as Exhibit “A”, by and between Howard Steinholz as co-trustee and JKM TV C, LLC; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING HOWARD STEINHOLZ AS CO-TRUSTEE UNDER THE DECLARATION OF APPOINTMENT OF CODE TRUSTEE DATED APRIL 13, 2016 OF THE TAMARAC LAND TRUST AGREEMENT DATED JULY 10, 2013, TO EXECUTE THAT CERTAIN TERMINATION OF GROUND LEASE FOR THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL ATTACHED CR2 AS EXHIBIT A, BY IN-BETWEEN HOWARD STEINHOLZ AS TRUSTEE AND JKM TV C, LLC, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR, I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
I WILL NOW OPEN PUBLIC COMMENTS, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
MAXINE CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND KENNETH KIRSCHNER WITH COLLARS ARE HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU AGAIN. GOOD MORNING, MAXINE CALLOWAY FOR THE RECORD AND WITH ME IS KEN KIRSCHNER AS YOU MENTIONED, WHO WILL BE ASSISTING WITH THIS PRESENTATION.
I'LL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND BEFORE KEN GOES INTO THE MARKET ANALYSIS.
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THANK YOU. JUST SOME BACKGROUND, BUT JUST TO BEGIN, JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OR RECAP ON WHERE WE ARE RELATIVE TO TAMARAC VILLAGE.THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING WILL BE ON THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL, SO PHASE 1 OF TAMARAC VILLAGE IS COMPLETE, THAT'S A MULTI-FAMILY SEVEN BUILDINGS 211 UNITS, AND THE CLUBHOUSE.
PHASE 2 IS NEARLY COMPLETE, IN FACT, THE CITY IS EXPECTED TO BE CONDUCTING INSPECTIONS THIS WEEK FOR THAT PORTION AND THEN OF COURSE, THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING WILL CONCENTRATE ON PHASE 3, WHICH IS NEXT, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL PARCEL.
JUST SOME BACKGROUND, THE CITY FORGE ITS PARTNERSHIP WITH JKM IN 2015, AND THEN IN 2018, JKM CAME BACK TO THE CITY AND ASKED FOR THE LEASE TO BE SEGREGATED OR BIFURCATED, IT WAS ONE LEASE IN 2015 AND IN 2018, WE DID THAT, WE SEPARATED THE LEASE INTO THREE SEPARATE LEASE, PHASE 1 AND 2 FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND THEN A SEPARATE LEASE FOR THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL, WHICH IS 3.47 ACRES IN SIZE.
THIS ITEM IS CONCERNING THE TERMINATION OF THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL, AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION AS TO WHY WE'RE HERE NOW.
SECTION 20.1 OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT PROVIDES THAT AFTER 30 MONTHS OF THE COMMENCEMENT DATE THAT JKM WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD DEVELOP COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS CONTEMPLATED AS A PART OF THE LEASE, OR THEY WOULD SEEK TO DEVELOP MULTI-FAMILY, WHICH IS THE REPOSITIONING OPTION.
IN OCTOBER 2020, JKM WAS NOT READY TO MAKE THAT DECISION, AND SO THEY CAME TO THE CITY AND ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION OF THAT 30 MONTH, AND IT WAS GRANTED, THAT WAS THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE.
IN 2021, THEY CAME BACK, THIS IS IN DECEMBER, AND ASKED FOR A SECOND AMENDMENT AND A SECOND EXTENSION OF THAT TIME, THEY WERE STILL EXPLORING THE VIABILITY OF COMMERCIAL, AND SO THE CITY COMMISSION GRANTED THAT EXTENSION.
IN SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2022, JKM FINALLY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO GO WITH THE REPOSITIONING OPTION INSTEAD OF BUILDING COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED UNDER THE LEASE THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD MULTI-FAMILY, AND AT THAT TIME THEY PRODUCE TO THE CITY WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE, WHICH IS THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR MULTI-FAMILY.
CITY STAFF CAME TO THE CITY COMMISSION, AND ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2022, THE CITY STAFF REQUESTED THAT AN EXTENSION BE GRANTED TO THE CITY.
THE LEASE PROVIDED THAT THE CITY HAD 90 DAYS IN WHICH TO EITHER ACCEPT JKM REPOSITIONING OPTION OR TO TERMINATE THE LEASE.
CITY STAFF NEEDED SOME TIME TO CONDUCT SOME DUE DILIGENCE AND TO DETERMINE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTY, SO WE CAME TO THE COMMISSION AND ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION WHICH WAS GRANTED FOR 365 DAYS.
DURING THAT TIME, WE COMMISSION A MARKET ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE THE VIABILITY OF COMMERCIAL ON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT MARKET ANALYSIS REVEAL THAT COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL IS VERY POSSIBLE, VERY VIABLE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND SO CITY STAFF THIS MORNING IS ASKING FOR TERMINATION OF THE LEASE WITH JKM TO PURSUE COMMERCIAL UNDER PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE INTENDED VISION OF THE CITY FOR THE MIXED USE THAT WE WANTED AT THAT LOCATION, AND KEN KRASNOW IS HERE FROM COLLIERS, WHO CONDUCTED THAT MARKET ANALYSIS, WHICH WILL SPEAK TO US THIS MORNING ABOUT THE FINDINGS OF THAT MARKET ANALYSIS AND THE USES WE BELIEVE WILL BE VIABLE AT THAT LOCATION.
>> EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, MAXINE.
GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AGAIN, KEN KRASNOW FROM COLLIERS. SORRY, IS THIS OKAY? AS MS. CALLOWAY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AN OVERVIEW OF OUR STUDY FOR THE, WE SAY COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S REALLY EFFECTIVELY THE RETAIL VIABILITY OF SPACE AT TAMARAC VILLAGE.
THE ANALYSIS WHICH I THINK YOU HAVE IN YOUR BACKUP IS A VERY DETAILED DATA DRIVEN COMPOSITE OF THE DEMAND FACTORS THAT RETAILERS GO INTO MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY CHOOSE TO LOCATE STORES, RESTAURANTS, ETC.
WE DID A SWOT ANALYSIS, STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, THREATS.
WE LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN THE CITY AND IN THE GREATER BROWARD AREA.
WE LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL A GAP OR A VOID ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF WHERE PEOPLE IN TAMARAC EFFECTIVELY ARE SPENDING THEIR MONEY, POTENTIALLY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
IT GIVES A POTENTIAL RETAILER PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.
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WE LOOK AT WHERE RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY SPENDING THEIR MONEY, AND THEN WE LOOK AT SOME, BASED ON ALL OF THAT DATA, THE TYPE OF USES THAT WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL AND EFFECTIVE WITHIN TAMARAC.AGAIN, COLLIERS IS A GLOBAL REAL ESTATE FIRM, RETAIL IS OUR STRENGTH AND IS OUR CORE WITH A DOMINANT RETAIL FIRM THROUGHOUT FLORIDA.
WE UNDERTAKE THIS ANALYSIS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT BEFORE YOU WHEN WE'RE WORKING FOR RESTAURANTS OR TARGETS OR WHOEVER'S OF THE WORLD.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS, THIS IS THE KIND OF DATA AND THIS IS THE KIND OF ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO THEIR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.
WE'RE DOING IT EFFECTIVELY IN REVERSE, BUT WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE USES THAT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS AREA.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE REPORT WITH YOU, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SORRY, QUICK ON THE TRIGGER FINGER THERE.
STARTED WITH, AGAIN, THE SWOT ANALYSIS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A LOT OF STRENGTHS WITH THIS LOCATION.
FIRST BEING THE LOCATION, THE CENTRALITY OF IT, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS VERY STRONG, THE NEWNESS OF BOTH THE RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL THAT WOULD COME WITH IT IS ALSO A VERY CORE STRENGTH.
I THINK ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES IS THE PERCEPTION THAT TAMARAC IS NOT ATTRACTING THESE KIND OF HIGH-END OR BETTER RETAILERS OR BETTER RESTAURANTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
A LOT OF IT IS PREDICATED ON THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THE PRODUCT AND A LOT OF THE INVENTORY IS OLDER, NOT AS UP TO DATE, RENOVATED, ETC, AND THAT JUST GOES FOR OFFICE, HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL, YOU NAME IT, NEW IS WHERE THE DEMAND IS MOVING TODAY.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT A LOT OF THE RETAILERS WILL SEE IN THIS LOCATION, IT'S A STRONG, DIVERSE, GROWING COMMUNITY, YOUR GROWTH TRENDS ARE OUTPACING GENERAL BROWARD.
A LOT OF THE DATA THAT'S IN THIS REPORT SPEAKS TO STRONG TRENDS THAT A LOT OF THE RETAILERS WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY'RE MAKING DECISIONS IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY WOULD CHOOSE TO LOCATE THEIR BUSINESSES.
ONE OF THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND ONE OF THE OTHER STRENGTHS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS AGAIN, IS A VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY, SAFE COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, SO IT'S NOT ONLY AFFLUENT, GROWING, DIVERSITY, ETC, BUT IT'S A GOOD PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO DO BUSINESS.
THE THREATS THAT ARE OUT THERE, OBVIOUSLY, EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT COSTS AND THE INFLATION THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS BUILDING OUT NEW SPACES, BUT THAT'S GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S ALL OVER THE MARKET.
ONE THREAT THOUGH THAT IS REAL IS, YOU, TAMARAC, ARE NOT ALONE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO ATTRACT ALL OF THESE NEW CONCEPTS, AND NEW RESTAURANTS, AND NEW STORES TO THEIR MARKETPLACE.
SO THERE IS A COMPETITION OUT THERE.
THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE STILL VERY OPTIMISTIC IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU WOULD BE POSITIONED RELATIVE TO THAT COMPETITION.
I ALSO MENTIONED WE LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, AND HISTORICALLY, PEOPLE LOOK AT DEMOGRAPHICS AS JUST BASIC INFORMATION WHICH IS STRONG, STRONG POPULATION GROWTH, STRONG GROWTH IN HOUSEHOLD MEDIUM INCOME, SO IT SPEAKS, AS I SAID BEFORE, TO A GROWING MORE AFFLUENT, GROWING MORE DIVERSE, ALL OF THOSE FACTORS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR RETAILERS THAT ARE LOOKING.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE STUDY OF DEMOGRAPHICS HAS GOTTEN A LOT MORE SOPHISTICATED OVER THE YEARS, AND PEOPLE DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE BASIC NUMBERS OF TERMS OF DRIVING POPULATION GROWTH INCOME, BUT THEY ALSO LOOK AT THE NATURE OF THE PEOPLE AND THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE BEING FORMED, THE JOBS THAT ARE BEING CREATED.
TAMARAC HAS A LOT OF POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES WHEN YOU DIG DEEPER INTO THE DEMOGRAPHIC.
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AGAIN, YOUNGER DIVERSITY, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE STARTING OUT AND BUILDING HOMES, HOUSEHOLD FORMATION.AGAIN, RETAILERS LOOK AT THAT AS PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE SPENDING ON IMPROVING THEIR HOUSE AND DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
SO THEY LOOK AT HOUSEHOLD FORMATION AND AGAIN, THE INFLUX OF NEW PEOPLE AND NEW BUSINESSES INTO YOUR AREA.
THE CORE NUMBERS, POPULATION GROWTH, HOUSEHOLD INCOME ARE STRONG, BUT WHEN YOU DIG DEEPER, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO A LOT OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT THESE RETAILERS ARE LOOKING FOR.
AGAIN, THIS PART OF THE REPORT GOES DEEPER, THERE ARE ROUGHLY 80 TRENDS THAT THEY'RE TALKING HERE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY LOOK AT WHAT THEY CALL THE PSYCHOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS.
THIS IS REALLY, AGAIN, TALKS ABOUT THE HOUSEHOLD FORMATIONS WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THEIR MONEY, GENERALLY, WHAT THEIR PREFERENCES ARE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF TAMARAC.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GOT A STRONG RETIREMENT POPULATION.
BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WHILE THEY ENJOY COOKING, THEY ALSO LIKE TO GO OUT AND SPEND MONEY AND EAT IN NICE PLACES.
SO THE RESTAURANTS, THEY LOOK FOR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GOT THIS KIND OF CORE OF POPULATION.
AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK INTO THE VARIOUS SORT OF PSYCHOGRAPHICS OF THESE VARIOUS DEMOGRAPHICS, IT SPEAKS VERY FAVORABLY IN TERMS OF THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT ULTIMATELY WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS AREA.
THIS IS THE CURRENT TOP 5 IN TAMARAC, BUT RIGHT BEHIND THIS ARE SOME VERY IMPROVING.
WHAT WE CALL AGAIN CALLED PSYCHOGRAPHICS.
ONE IS CALLED HOME IMPROVEMENT, AGAIN, PEOPLE THAT ARE NOW BUYING NEW HOMES AND ARE LOOKING TO RETROFIT THOSE HOMES.
BRIGHT YOUNG PROFESSIONALS IS ANOTHER CORE AREA, AGAIN, THAT SERVE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE TOP FIVE, BUT GROWING.
A LOT OF RETAILERS ARE LOOKING FOR THAT DEMOGRAPHIC.
THEN METRO FUSION SPEAKS TO THE DIVERSITY AND THE UPWARD MOBILITY OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS OF THE POPULATION.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THESE TOP FIVE TRENDS ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING.
AGAIN, I'M SURE NOT A SURPRISE TO ALL OF YOU SITTING UP THERE.
BUT AS THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW INTO THE DIVERSIFY.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT SPENDING; WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THEIR MONEY.
AGAIN, ALL OF THIS LEADS INTO THE ULTIMATE CONCLUSION, WHICH IS WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL HERE? THE KIND OF CONSUMERS THAT ARE IN TAMARAC WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY SPENDING THEIR MONEY.
OVERALL THIS TALKS ABOUT THE RETAIL MARKET.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'RE AT A VERY STRONG RETAIL ENVIRONMENT OVERALL IN BROWARD COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY, HERE IN TAMARAC, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 4% VACANCY.
AGAIN, PRIMARILY THERE'S VERY LITTLE INVENTORY BEING ADDED TO THE MARKET.
THAT'S WHERE THE DEMAND IS GOING, RENTS HAVE INCREASED DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO THE POINT WHERE NOW IT IS COST EFFECTIVE TO BUILD NEW RETAIL SPACE.
YOU CAN CAPTURE THE DEMAND AND THE TENANTS THAT ARE MOVING INTO THOSE SPACES CAN AFFORD TO PAY THE RENT THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO BUILD NEW PRODUCT.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ALSO LOOK AT THE GAP ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S MISSING FROM THIS MARKET.
WHERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESIDENTS IN TAMARAC GOING AND SPENDING THEIR MONEY? WE CALL IT THE MISSING ACTIVITY OR WE CALL IT LEAKAGE, THIS IS AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ARE RESIDENTS OF TAMARAC.
I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES ON THE OTHER PAGE, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY WHERE PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TO SPEND THEIR MONEY, MAYBE NOT CHOOSING TO SPEND IT WITHIN THE TAMARAC CITY LIMITS,
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PRIMARILY BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES DO NOT EXIST HERE TODAY.THIS TALKS ABOUT THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WE CALL THE VOID ANALYSIS.
WE LOOKED AT WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THEIR MONEY.
THEN IF YOU LOOK AT FOR ARGUMENT SAKE, I KNOW THERE'S A HUGE EMPHASIS ON RESTAURANTS, RIGHTFULLY SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE THIS HUGE GAP IS SO WE SEE A LOT OF YOUR RESIDENTS GOING AND SPENDING MONEY IN FOOD AND DINING AND RESTAURANT ESTABLISHMENTS THROUGHOUT BROWARD COUNTY WHERE THERE'S ROUGHLY 4,500 RESTAURANTS.
BUT WITHIN TAMARAC, OBVIOUSLY A SIGNIFICANT WHAT WE CALL VOID.
THIS IS THE KIND OF DATA THAT THE RESTAURANTS, THE RETAILERS, THE CLOTHING STORES, THE FITNESS STORES, ETC LOOK AT THEY KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THEIR MONEY.
THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND, THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE SPENDING IT IN OTHER PLACES, AND THEY SAY TO THEMSELVES, IF THE RIGHT SPACE IN THE RIGHT LOCATION EXISTED, OUR BUSINESS COULD BE SUCCESSFUL HERE.
THIS GOES TO THE KIND OF THE TAKEAWAY SLIDE BASED ON ALL OF THE DATA THAT IS WRITTEN IN THIS REPORT.
THESE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES BASED ON THEIR BUSINESS PLAN AND BASED ON HOW IT LINES UP WITH ALL OF THE DATA THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE DEMOGRAPHICS, THE HOUSEHOLD INCOME, WHERE THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
YOU SEE A LOT OF BRANDS REPRESENTED IN THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE, BOTH WITHIN FULL-SERVICE AS WELL AS IN QUICK SERVICE.
YOU NOTICE THERE'S THINGS FROM BREAKFAST AND BRUNCH PLACES TO BURGERS, TO BREWS AND ALES AND THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF REPRESENTATIVE OF ETHNICITY IN TERMS OF SUSHI, MEXICAN GREEK, ALL OF THESE BRANDS FIT WITHIN THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT SPEAKS TO TAMARAC.
WE DID THIS REPORT, AS YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND THESE WERE THE REPRESENTATIVE BRANCH.
SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED TO LAND WITHIN THE MARKET: CAPITAL TACOS, HANGRY JOE'S, WHICH IS A FAST-GROWING NASHVILLE CHICKEN RESTAURANT.
A LOT OF THESE ARE STARTING TO FIND THEIR WAY INTO OUR MARKET.
BUT AGAIN, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF SPACE, THE KIND OF LOCATION THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.
IN ADDITION TO FOOD AND BEVERAGE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BOUTIQUE FITNESS AND THINGS THAT SPEAK TO MARTIAL ARTS AND YOGA AND PILATES AND ALL THOSE OTHER WELLNESS ACTIVITIES, BEAUTY SPA, ETC.
THEN AGAIN FROM A FAST-GROWING, A YOUNGER POPULATION, TUTORING, ALL OF THE OTHER TYPES OF AMENITIES THAT YOUNGER FAMILIES ARE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF SUPPLEMENTING THEIR FAMILIES.
THIS GIVES YOU A REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF BUSINESSES THAT BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE WENT THROUGH IN THE REPORT, WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN A LOCATION AND A NEW PRODUCT THAT WILL BE DELIVERED WITHIN TAMARAC VILLAGE.
AGAIN, WE ARE EXCITED, WE KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING IN TERMS OF DELIVERING THESE AMENITIES TO YOUR CITIZENS THAT THE RESIDENTS OF TAMARAC, BUT THE MARKET OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN PARTICULAR, HAS REALLY ACCELERATED SPECIFICALLY IN THE RETAIL MARKET.
WE THINK THAT THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR A VERY RETAIL ORIENTED SPECIFIC DEVELOPER TO TAKE OVER CONTROL OF TAMARAC VILLAGE AND BRING IN A NUMBER OF REPRESENTATIVE COMPANIES LIKE THIS THAT WE THINK WILL BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SORRY, I TOOK A FEW MORE MINUTES, BUT TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR LONG ENOUGH, SO I FIGURED.
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[OVERLAPPING]>> ALL GOOD STUFF. TAKE YOUR TIME, COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
>> THANK YOU FOR ARTICULATING WHAT MYSELF, THE CURRENT RESIDENTS DESIRE.
MAJORITY OF THEM, THAT'S WHAT I RAN FOR ON MY PLATFORM BECAUSE THE NEED WAS THERE AND WE WEREN'T GETTING IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ARTICULATING THAT WELL.
BUT THERE'S STILL A PART MISSING BECAUSE INSTEAD OF DRIVING TO BOCA, IT WOULD BE NICE TO FIND A NICE SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT.
HERE ARE SEVERAL, THAT'S NOT IN CORAL SPRINGS, THAT'S NOT IN SUNRISE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEAN, EVERYTHING YOU HAD ON THERE IS A 10, 50 MINUTE DRIVE, BUT CAN I NOT HAVE TO DRIVE HALF AN HOUR TO GET TO A NICE RESTAURANT.
CAN IT BE RIGHT HERE? IF YOU COULD LOOK INTO THAT.
PLACES THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE LONG DISTANCES FOR, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S 10 MINUTES AWAY. THANK YOU.
>> I THINK IN THE RESTAURANT CATEGORY, WE THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY DEMAND FOR WHAT WE WOULD CALL FULL-SERVICE.
THAT'S SIT DOWN TABLECLOTH, NICER, AMENITY IN EVERY SPECTRUM, GOING DOWN TO MORE OF THE BREWERY IN THE SPORTS BARISH ENVIRONMENT, DOWN TO MORE OF THE NICER QUICK SERVICE.
WE DON'T SEE FAST FOOD, THAT'S THE ONE AREA THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY TARGETING HERE.
>> BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT IT BECOMES FAST FOOD.
[LAUGHTER] LIKE A COLD STONE, IT BECOMES.
MY FAVORITE FAST FOOD IS CHICK-FIL-A IS NOT ON THERE, BUT IT'S BETTER TO MAKE THAT.
>> IT'S ACROSS THE STREET. IF I MANAGED [OVERLAPPING]
TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS REGARDING THE TRUSTEE, WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS YOUR FINDINGS IN A MORE DETAILED TIME.
>> NO, MADAM MAYOR. THIS IS REGARDING THE TERMINATION OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH JKM FOR THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL.
THIS FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS SUPPORTS THAT TERMINATION AND THE CITY IS ASKING TODAY THAT THE LEASE BE TERMINATED BY THIS COMMISSION, AND WE BE AUTHORIZED TO MOVE FORWARD TO SOLICIT A NEW PARTNERSHIP FOR THE COMMERCIAL.
WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT WILL BE ON A FUTURE WORKSHOP, IS THE GOVERNMENT COMPLEX AS WELL AS A COLONY WEST THAT WILL BE ON YOUR JULY 10TH WORKSHOP AND COLLIER WILL BE BACK TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON THAT.
>> OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT ANY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ON THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THE BUSINESS PART OF THIS WAS GOING TO BE SOME OTHER TIME, BUT IT IS FOR NOW TO ASK HER QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.
THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR AND THEN I HAVE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOW THE RESTAURANTS, THEIR LOGOS' PROSPECTIVE RESPONSE? BECAUSE SOME OF THESE BRANDS, SO TO SPEAK, IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT NORTH LAUDERDALE HAS ATTRACTED WITHOUT FANCY REPRESENTATIVES, AND CONSULTANTS, AND PUSHING FOR THIS BIG FOR A, I AGREE WITH DR. DANIEL THAT THESE BRANDS ARE PROSPECTIVE RETAIL USES BRANDS DO NOT NECESSARILY ENCAPSULATE WHAT THE RESONANCE HAVE ASKED FOR.
YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE NOT UPSCALE ENOUGH AND FOR AN AREA LIKE TAMARAC VILLAGE WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE VERY UPSCALE, LIKE A BAL HARBOUR, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
EVEN OUR COMMISSION DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE VISION OF HAVING A BAL HARBOUR-STYLE DOWNTOWN EXISTS.
THAT WOULD BE MY VERSION OF INTERPRETING THE LAUGHTER, BUT I BELIEVE IN THE VISION THAT CAN HAPPEN.
IF WE BUILT TO SUIT, IF WE FIRST GO TO BRANDS, AND SAY COME TO TAMARAC, AND THEN BUILD THIS SPACE FOR THEM INSTEAD OF BUILDING A SPACE AND THEN ASKING THEM TO COME.
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I THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS IF WE BUILD OUT THESE LITTLE SPACES THEN A BRAND MAY SAY, THAT DOES NOT MATCH WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?>> YEAH. THE GAME PLAN HERE AND BY THE WAY, I ALSO MENTIONED THAT THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA THAT IT'S MORE ALONG THE LINES OF DIVERSITY.
WE DO THINK THAT FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANTS, SOME OF WHICH ARE MAYBE MORE LOCAL AND MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY AS A RECOGNIZABLE BRAND AS SOME OF THESE, SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE THAT ULTIMATELY WILL COME THROUGH.
THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF IT, BUT THE SECOND PART OF IT IS THE CITY IS NOT IN THE RETAIL BUSINESS, AND WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT YOU GO OUT, AND BUILD SPACE AND THEN GO, WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND I BELIEVE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS BY TERMINATING A LEASE, WE'RE GOING TO GO FIND YOU A PARTNER WHO DOES THIS FOR A LIVING, MAYBE BUILDS BAL HARBOUR, MAYBE BUILDS PROJECTS IN PALM BEACH GARDENS OR [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS, THEY DO THIS, THEY KNOW HOW TO BUILD THIS KIND OF PRODUCT.
THEY KNOW HOW TO ATTRACT THESE AND OTHER KINDS OF BRANDS AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.
IT NEEDS A TRUE VISIONARY RETAIL PARTNER THAT WILL EXECUTE WHAT OUR DATA TELLS US THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND FIND THESE BRANDS TOMORROW.
WE'RE GOING TO GO FIND YOU A PARTNER WHO IS GOING TO HAVE THE VISION AGAIN AND THAT WILL BE A PROCESS THAT WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
>> IT MAKES SENSE AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, BUT YOUR PRESENTATION HAS THESE PERSPECTIVE RETAIL USES BRANDS THAT WOULD PRESUPPOSE OR ELUDE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A PARTNER WHO WOULD BUILD IN THESE BRANDS AND I'M SEEING IF THAT IS AN IDEA, THAT I'M NOT FOR THAT IDEA.
>> NOT NECESSARILY, WHEN WE GO OUT AND FIND A PARTNER, WE GO OUT WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS TO ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT I SHOWED YOU IN TERMS OF WHERE HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS GROWING, HOW THE POPULATION IS GETTING YOUNGER.
THEY COME UP WITH THEIR OWN, WE DON'T TELL THEM, WE'RE GIVING THIS TO YOU TO SAY THIS PROJECT TAMARAC VILLAGE, AS YOU KNOW IS A VIABLE RETAIL COMMERCIAL PROJECT AND THE DECISION THAT WAS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS, SHOULD WE TERMINATE THE LEASE AND GO FIND A PARTNER WHO CAN EXECUTE ON THIS VISION? OUR DATA TELLS YOU THAT WOULD YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT WHEN WE GO OUT AND FIND A PARTNER, WE GO OUT WITH THE DATA.
WE GO OUT WITH THE LOCATION, WE GO OUT WITH ALL THE AERIALS TO SHOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET.
THEY'RE EXPERTS, THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN VISION AND THEIR OWN BRANDS.
THEN THOSE GROUPS WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU WITH THEIR VISION, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE ON TERMS OF WHERE THEY SEE IT, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO THEN MAKE A DECISION IN TERMS OF WHICH GROUP YOU WOULD LIKE TO THEN GO FORWARD WITH.
WE'RE JUST TELLING YOU BY NATURE OF SHOWING YOU THESE BRANDS, THIS PROJECT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
>> OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOW HOW TAMARAC SPENDS ITS MONEY?
>> THIS. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE AVERAGE AMOUNT PER HOUSEHOLD, $6,615, AND WE SPEND ALL OF OUR MONEY ON THESE CATEGORIES, BUT WHERE IS RENT AND LIGHT, AND UTILITY? EXPLAIN THIS.
>> THIS IS, AGAIN, FROM A DEVELOPER, BUT ULTIMATELY FROM A RETAILER PERSPECTIVE.
IF I MAY PICK A HOUSEHOLD, IF I'M A CITY FURNITURE THAT THIS COMMUNITY SPENDS A DECENT AMOUNT OF THEIR DISPOSABLE INCOME IN HOUSEHOLD FURNISHINGS AND EQUIPMENT,
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IT SAYS TO ME, I CAN BE SUCCESSFUL HERE.THIS IS, AGAIN, A DATA POINT THAT WILL BE OUT IN THE MARKET THAT WILL ATTRACT BRANDS WITHIN A LOT OF THESE CATEGORIES.
>> THIS IS ENTIRELY DISPOSABLE INCOME AND NOT NECESSARILY THEIR FULL INCOME?
>> BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BUILD MULTI-FAMILY, IF SOMEBODY WHO WAS GOING TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY, YOU'D WANT TO SEE HOW MUCH PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO SPEND ON RENT.
BUT THIS IS FOCUSED ON WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MONEY THAT WILL ATTRACT, AGAIN, RESTAURANTS AND CLOTHING STORES AND FURNITURE STORES AND MAYBE NOT COLD STONE, BUT SOME OTHER ICE CREAM, BUT OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS DATA SHOWS, THAT YOUR RESIDENTS ARE SPENDING MONEY IN THESE CATEGORIES, AND SO THEREFORE IF I HAVE A BUSINESS WITH ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES, I CAN BE SUCCESSFUL HERE.
>> IF YOU WOULD SHARE THIS PRESENTATION WITH ME, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
DON'T KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD NEED IT AS WELL, BUT CERTAINLY FOR THEIR PLEASURE.
MS. CALLOWAY, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
CITY MANAGER, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING NOW OR YOU WANTED TO WAIT?
>> I CAN WAIT, MAYOR, BUT I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR COLLECTIVE VISION IS TO BRING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL PROUD OF PROVIDED THE MARKET CONDITIONS SUPPORT THAT.
WE WOULD BE UTILIZING EVERY RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING OUR RETAIL CONSULTANT, OUR REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL MAKE US ALL PROUD AND HAPPY AND SO THAT WE WILL NOT SETTLE FOR JUST SOMETHING TO FILL UP THAT SPACE.
>> THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR STILL HAS THE FLOOR.
>> THANK YOU, MS. CALLOWAY. JKM PAYS THE CITY UNDER THE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE COMMERCIAL LAND?
>> HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN PAYING A DOLLAR?
>> THE LEASE, ON JUNE 22, WENT INTO ITS 5TH YEAR.
>> FOR FIVE YEARS, JKM PAID THE CITY OF TAMARAC ONE DOLLAR TO HOLD THE LAND?
>> SO FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE COULD HAVE CAPITALIZED ON COMMERCIAL, LOOK FOR THOSE BUSINESSES, PROBABLY, THAT ARE MOVING INTO PLANTATION RIGHT NOW, SO WE WASTED FIVE YEARS?
>> WELL, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY IT THAT WAY.
WE'RE SUBJECT TO A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDED THAT JKM HAD 30 MONTHS FROM THE COMMENCEMENT DATE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION, WHICH WE TWICE EXTENDED, WHICH WAS AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION.
THE WAY THE LEASE WAS STRUCTURED, THEY HAD 30 MONTHS TO DECIDE ONE, IF THEY WOULD GO FORWARD WITH A COMMERCIAL AS INITIALLY CONTEMPLATED, OR TWO, CHOOSE THE REPOSITIONING OPTION.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEGOTIATED AND PROVIDED THEM.
AFTER THE SECOND EXTENSION, THEY CHOSE THE REPOSITION OPTION, WHICH IS TO BUILD MULTI-FAMILY, AND AT THIS POINT WE'RE SAYING, NO, WE DO NOT WANT TO ACCEPT THAT REPOSITIONING OPTION, INSTEAD, WE'D LIKE TO TERMINATE, WHICH IS PROVIDED UNDER THE LEASE.
>> THE WORKSHOP ON MONDAY WITH THE CITY STAFF SAID THAT THEY KNEW THAT JKM IS A RESIDENTIAL BUILDER AND SO AT THE START OF THIS PROCESS, WE KNEW THAT THEY WERE NOT A COMMERCIAL BUILDER, THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF BUILDING COMMERCIAL.
THE GENTLEMAN JUST SPOKE ABOUT GETTING PARTNERSHIPS FROM COMPANIES THAT BUILDS COMMERCIAL, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
TO GO BACK INTO HISTORY, NOT HEARING THAT STAFF HAD THE VISION OF SEEING THIS TODAY IN FIVE YEARS AGO IS VERY CONCERNING.
WE DID NOT CAPITALIZE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS BUT RECEIVED LITERALLY FIVE DOLLARS AND THAT'S NOT COOL.
THE FISCAL IMPACT OF TAKING BACK THE LAND IS WHAT, FIVE DOLLARS?
>> NO, THE LAND 3.47 ACRES IN SIZE, I THINK THE VALUE NOW IS, APPROXIMATELY, FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, I THINK, WHEN YOU DID THE EVALUATION.
WE HAVE THE BENEFIT, OF COURSE, OF GOING INTO THIS NEW PARTNERSHIP AND BEING ABLE TO DICTATE A FEW THINGS, BECAUSE NOW THE LAND, OF COURSE, WILL BE CONTROLLED BY US.
>> TO MAKE MY QUESTION A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARER, IF WE WERE TO HAVE JKM CONTINUE WITH THE LEASE, WHAT WILL BE THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THAT BE?
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>> AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS, SO EITHER THE CITY CHOOSE THE REPOSITIONING OPTION, WHICH IS THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN TO YOU, INITIALLY, OR WE TERMINATE.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US UNDER LEASE, CURRENTLY.
EITHER WE HAVE JKM BUILD MULTI-FAMILY, WHICH THIS STUDY SHOWING YOU THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S VIABLE AT THIS TIME, NOR IS IT WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE, GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENT AND OR INITIAL VISION FOR THIS PROPERTY.
WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THE REPOSITIONING OPTION, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE GOING WITH A TERMINATION, BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THE CITY UNDER THE LEASE CURRENTLY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I FULLY SUPPORT THE TERMINATION, JUST TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I HAD COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, THEN I HAVE COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, AND THEN I HAVE COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A FEW QUESTIONS AND A FEW POINTS HERE.
I BELIEVE THAT MAJORITY OF THIS COMMISSION BELIEVES THAT DEAL WITH JKM WAS ONE OF THE WORST ONES PROBABLY IN THE HISTORY OF TAMARAC ASIDE FROM POSSIBLY SELLING THE FORT LAUREDALE AIRPORT LAND.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SCRUTINIZED THE NEXT DEVELOPER, THAT WE DON'T GET SCREWED ON.
EVEN THOUGH WE DID COLLECT FIVE DOLLARS FOR FIVE YEARS, OBVIOUSLY, THROUGH INFLATION AND THROUGH THE MARKET WERE CAPITALIZING ON THE INCREASE IN THAT.
WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR BAD, IT IS A GAIN AFTER ALL.
THE PICTURE THAT WAS SHOWN OF THE LAND OF THE BIRD'S-EYE VIEW THERE, CAN YOU PUT IT BACK UP? THAT ONE. WHEN WAS THIS PICTURE TAKEN?
>> I DON'T KNOW [OVERLAPPING] YOU'VE GOT YOUR AMPHITHEATERS PARTIALLY COMPLETED.
>> WE BUILD THAT OUT TO WHATEVER WE WANT.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE EVENTS THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE, THE AMPHITHEATER, AND THE SPLASH PAD WITH PARKING?
>> AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S CONTEMPLATED THAT THAT WOULD CONTINUE AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A NICE AMENITY THAT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER WOULD LOOK TO, AGAIN, PARTNER WITH THE CITY.
THE CITY WILL BE ACTIVATING YOUR AMPHITHEATER IN EVENTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, [OVERLAPPING] THAT BRINGS PEOPLE THERE.
>> GIVE ME A SECOND, I'M SO SORRY, CAN I RECLAIM MY TIME, PLEASE?
>> THE AMPHITHEATER PIECE AND THEN THE OTHER PART THAT'S CARVED OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE WOULD REMAIN, AND CONTINUE TO BE AMENITIES FOR THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
>> CITY MANAGER, MS. MAXINE, ARE WE DRIVING RESIDENTS TO THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, TO THE AMPHITHEATER MIX? APPROXIMATELY, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DO WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO GO ENJOY THE AMENITIES?
>> MAYOR, IF I MAY? THE CURRENT PARKING SPACES IS SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT THE CURRENT USE, BUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL, THAT WILL COME WITH ITS OWN REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING, AND THEN WE'LL MANAGE THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
>> THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. APPROXIMATELY, HOW MANY RETAIL DO YOU THINK FIT IN THOSE 44,000 SQUARE FEET OF USAGE?
>> IT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT I THINK WHEN WE INITIALLY LOOKED AT IT, YOU'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT MAYBE A DOZEN TO MAYBE 18 OR SO, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE.
>> CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FROM 12-18 RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES THERE?
>> AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL COME IN WITH ITS OWN REQUIREMENTS, SO PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT THAT TIME WOULD BE HANDLED AS PART OF THAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DO BELIEVE WE ARE BUILDING, AS YOU SAID, WHICH I LOVED THE DATA, THE WAY DEVELOPERS ARE NOW LOOKING INTO HOW DATA IS DRIVEN AND HOW DATA IS BECOMING VERY LIQUID,
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IT'S CHANGING, IT'S LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE NOT LOOKED AT BEFORE.AND THEREFORE [NOISE] THAT'S WHY AT THE MOMENT, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE CANNOT HAVE $200 DINNERS PER PERSON IN TAMARAC ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD OR $150 PER PERSON DINNER OR LUNCH IN TAMARAC.
WHEN I LOOK AT THESE RETAIL STORES AND EVEN A YOGA LOCATIONS AND ALL THESE LOCATIONS RETAILERS.
FOR ME PERSONALLY, IT MAKES SENSE.
IT'S BASED ON THIS NEW DATA-DRIVEN ANALYSIS THAT SAYS, THESE ARE THE TYPES.
WE DIDN'T SEE MCDONALD'S, WE DIDN'T SEE BURGER KING, WE DIDN'T SEE TACO BELL, WE SAW AN UPGRADE OF WHERE WE CURRENTLY USE TO RECEIVE, BUT WE CANNOT GO HIGHER THAN THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AND WHILE I DO BELIEVE THAT DEVELOPING IT TO MORE RESIDENTIAL IS VIABLE, DEFINITELY NOT WHAT WE WANT, DEFINITELY NOT WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT.
WITH THAT, I WOULD YIELD MY TIME. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MR. KEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
>> I LOOKED AT YOUR DOCUMENT THAT WAS WRITTEN A FEW DAYS AGO AND OPTIMAL MIXED USE OPTION WHERE IT SAYS FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANTS, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR OPTION IN THAT SECTION?
>> AS I SAID, I THINK ON THE FULL-SERVICE, THOSE ARE PROBABLY MORE LOCAL OPERATOR TYPE THINGS THAT MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARILY A LOGO THAT WOULD BE RECOGNIZABLE THE WAY THAT SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE USED WERE.
BUT WE FULLY EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE SOME COMBINATION OF WHAT WE WOULD ENVISION TO BE FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT MAY NOT BE $150 PLATE RESTAURANT, BUT IT'LL BE DIFFERENT THAN MAYBE WHAT YOU WOULD CLASSIFY AS A QUICK SERVE.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS WITHIN FULL-SERVICE, WITHIN QUICK SERVE AND OBVIOUSLY AS YOU GO DOWN THE SCALE INTO FAST FOOD AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT WE THINK THERE'S A COMBINATION OF FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANTS, SIT-DOWN, MEAL TYPE RESTAURANTS, AS WELL AS SOMETHING IN THE WHAT I WOULD CALL MORE IN THE HIRING OF QUICK SERVICE.
>> BECAUSE I SEE YOU HAVE OPTIONS FOR EVERY OTHER CATEGORY EXCEPT THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY.
>> LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT WAS REALLY MORE FROM A RECOGNIZED BRAND.
IF WE PUT CELLS, RESTAURANT, NOBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT IT MAY BE IT'S A GOOD LOCAL RESTAURANT IN CORAL SPRINGS OR IN FORT LAUDERDALE THAT WANTS TO OPEN A SECOND LOCATION AS A FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT.
IT WOULDN'T MEAN ANYTHING NECESSARILY TO ANYBODY.
BUT I THINK THAT'S THE OPTIONS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED DOWN THE ROAD.
>> DID JKM TRIED TO RECRUIT ANY COMMERCIAL TENANTS?
>> I BELIEVE AS PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT, THEY DID PARTIALLY LOOK FOR RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES OR COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES.
>> THERE WAS A NUMBER OF CLAIMS ON THEIR PART.
ONE WAS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER AND THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THERE PURVIEW OR LEVEL INTERESTS AREA.
THE OTHER WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T THINK THAT THIS SITE WOULD SUPPORT THEIR VIABLE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, AND SO THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT.
>> CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT? YOUR FIRST EXTENSION OF TIME WAS DUE TO COVID.
IT WAS UNTIL THE MARKET WAS NOT RESPONDING.
THEIR SECOND EXTENSION, THEY BROUGHT TO US FOOD GALLERY OR A FOOD COURT, AS WELL AS A SCHOOL.
WE DIDN'T LIKE THE SCHOOL CONCEPT.
WE DID LIKE THE FOOD COURT, AND SO THEY ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL TIME TO FIND OTHER USES TO SUPPORT THE FOOD COURT.
THAT'S WHY WE GRANTED THEM THAT SECOND EXTENSION.
>> I THINK MR. KEN, YOU MENTIONED AS A 4% COMMERCIAL OPEN RATE IN BROWARD? THAT MEANS PEOPLE SHOULD BE CLAMORING FOR COMMERCIAL SPACES.
>> WHY WEREN'T THEY CLAMORING WHEN JKM HAD THAT OPTION, WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT NOW?
>> CURRENTLY, [NOISE] I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WHAT THE DATA SAYS.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING OR WHERE [NOISE] THEIR MOTIVATION WAS, OR SO ON AND SO FORTH.I CAN TELL YOU WE ARE THE AGENT FOR WHAT'S IT CALLED MIDWAY PLAZA, IS THAT THE WORD? PEOPLE ARE BANGING DOWN THEIR DOOR FOR SPACE.
THAT'S A QUALITY CENTER WHERE THE DEMAND IS STRONG.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THE DEMAND IS CONCENTRATING AND LOOKING FOR NEWER PRODUCT OR PRODUCTS THAT'S BEEN RENOVATED OR UP KEPT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
FOR A LOT OF THE TAMARAC MARKET, THERE'S NOT THAT LEVEL OF INVENTORY, WHICH IS WHY WE THINK NEW PRODUCT HERE WILL BE VERY SUCCESSFUL.
>> I DO AGREE WITH THE VICE MAYOR.
I DON'T THINK TAMARAC VILLAGE HAS THE THE FEELING OF BAL HARBOUR AND [INAUDIBLE] AND MAYFAIR AND THOSE TYPES OF COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE I DO LIVE THERE.
I SEE THE CARS THAT ARE IN THAT COMMUNITY, THAT TESLA, THAT AUDIS.
IT'S A DEMOGRAPHIC THAT SOMEWHAT AFFLUENT PEOPLE ARE MOVING FROM OUT-OF-STATE.
THEY DON'T WANT THAT EXPERIENCE WHERE IT'S MODERN AND THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND 200 BUCKS ON A MEAL BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVE TO MIAMI AND THAT'S THE NORM THAT YOU SPEND RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK THE BRANDS THAT YOU'RE SHOWCASING AS A VICE MAYOR MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONG, MAYFAIR AND ENTER A DEAL AND BAL HARBOUR, I THINK THEY'RE NOT TO KNOCK ANY PLACE BECAUSE I RESPECT EVERY COMMUNITY.
I THINK JUST IN THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, IT HAS THAT CLICHE AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DEMAND.
I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WORK YOUR MAGIC BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR SPECIALTY.
I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN BRING US A NICE FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT THAT REALLY PUTS TAMARAC AND MAKE TAMARAC UNIQUE BECAUSE [NOISE] SOMETIMES WE TRY TO ATTRACT THESE NATIONAL RESTAURANTS, BUT AS THESE UNIQUE UPSKILL PACES THAT ARE GOING INTO A COMMUNITY THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
I THINK BASED ON YOUR EXPLANATION OF THE FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT.
I'M IMPRESSED WITH THAT AND I THINK THAT'S A BRILLIANT STRATEGY.
>> LIKE I SAID, JUST SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR, WHEN IF YOU DECIDE TO TERMINATE THE LEASE, WE WOULD GO OUT INTO THE MARKET AND TRY TO FIND YOU A PARTNER THAT WOULD BUILD AND LEASE AND BRING THESE BRANDS.
WHEN THEY COME BEFORE YOU, WHENEVER THAT IS, THERE MIGHT BE 2, 3, 6 GROUPS THAT COME BEFORE YOU.
THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN LOGO SHEET OR A BRAND OR VISION OF IN TERMS OF, AND THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHICH OF THOSE GROUPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO OBVIOUSLY MOVE FORWARD WITH.
THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP TO TELL YOU THERE'S A VIABLE MARKET THERE.
WE THINK THERE ARE GOOD PARTNERS OUT IN THE MARKET THAT YOU COULD AND SHOULD BE WORKING WITH.
THAT WOULD BE OUR TASK, WOULD BE TO GO AND BRING YOU CHOICES OF PARTNERS.
EACH MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT VISION AND THEN ULTIMATELY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SUBSEQUENT DECISIONS ABOUT WHICH DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD. THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GO GET DROP AND YOU'RE GOING TO PUT TAMARAC VILLAGE [INAUDIBLE] BAL HARBOUR OR [INAUDIBLE].
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER DANIEL, YOU WERE NEXT AND THEN VICE MAYOR AFTER THAT.
I'M SO PROUD TO SAY THAT WE IN TAMARAC HAVE VISION.
IT'S NOT ONLY FOR THE RESIDENT IN THAT DATA.
IT'S FOR OTHERS TO ALSO COME TO OUR CITY, THAT WE ARE PAST DUE AND SPEND THEIR FUNDS HERE.
BEING A BUILDER OR BETTER THAN A BUILDER IS A GOOD THING.
BEING THE NEXT BROKER IS A GOOD THING.
PEOPLE GOING TO KNOW WHERE TAMARAC IS.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING OPEN, AND LISTENING TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY, AND BRING BACK TO THE TABLE COMPANIES THAT CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DANIEL. VICE MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DEFINE ITSELF AND DEFINE AREAS.
ONCE WE DEFINE OURSELVES AND DEFINE AREAS, THEN WE WILL NOT MAKE LOOSE COMMENTS, THAT THINGS ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE.
I THINK THAT IF WE DEFINE THIS AREA AS AN UPSCALE AREA THEN TO BUILD IT, PEOPLE WILL COME.
I THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
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BUT QUICK QUESTION, IS COLLIER A BUILDER AS WELL?>> YOU DON'T BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
WE HELP, AGAIN MATCH THE VISION WITH THE DEVELOPERS, WE'RE BROKERS, WE'RE ADVISORS.
WE'RE NOT PRINCIPLES. WE'RE NOT BUILDERS OR ANY DEVELOPERS, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>> YOU WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED IN SUBMITTING A BID TO BUILD, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT THAT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER, WRIGHT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I BELIEVE THAT I'M YOUR CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL AND YOU HAVE A VISION, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU ARE SUPPORT THIS MOVE TAMARAC IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED EXCELLENT PLACES, SIT-DOWN RESTAURANTS, CUSTOMERS RESIDENCE HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THIS, FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND EVEN A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THEY ASKED FOR THIS.
IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT VISION, TELL THEM TO THEIR FACE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT VISION, OR THAT'S NOT YOUR VISION FOR THAT AREA, AND YOU DON'T THINK THAT AREA IS SUSTAINABLE.
BUT DON'T LEAD OUR RESIDENTS ON TO BELIEVE, THAT YOU ARE WITH THE VISION AND THEN SAY SOMETHING, OTHERWISE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING DEVELOPERS COMING TO OUR CITY, TO PITCH THEIR IDEAS.
I HOPE THAT I'M STILL HERE TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> BIGGER AND BETTER THINGS MY FRIEND.
>> JUST TAKING THE MOMENT EVERYBODY, YOUR CITY COMMISSION IS IN AGREEMENT.
[LAUGHTER] ALL RIGHT, JUST TAKE IT IN.
I AM SO EXCITED, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN BEGGING FOR YEARS FOR THIS CITY TO RECOGNIZE OUR POTENTIAL, AND RECOGNIZE HOW GREAT WE REALLY ARE, AND TO BUILD IT THEY WILL COME AND TO NOT JUST SETTLE FOR LESS, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO.
FOR YEARS WE HAVE BEEN SAYING, THEY CAN AFFORD IT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? OUR RESIDENTS HAVE RECENTLY BEEN SCREAMING AT US.
STOP TREATING US LIKE WE'RE CHILDREN.
STOP TREATING US LIKE WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPEND OUR MONEY.
WE KNOW HOW TO SPEND OUR MONEY.
WE KNOW HOW TO SAVE OUR MONEY, AND WE KNOW HOW TO GO OUT AND EAT.
WE KNOW HOW TO GO OUT AND SHOP.
WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT, NOW GET US WHAT WE NEED SO WE CAN DO IT IN OUR OWN CITY.
WE'VE BEEN HEARING IT LOUD AND CLEAR.
WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TONIGHT.
I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR IT LOUD AND CLEAR.
WE'VE GOT ONE MORE MEETING RIGHT AFTER THAT.
THERE ARE NO GOING TO HEAR IT THEN TOO, AND IT IS FANTASTIC.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE, WITH THE RAISE OF 22% OF PEOPLE COMING HERE, WHICH IS OVER THE MARKET FOR WHERE PEOPLE WERE NOT COMING TO OTHER PLACES.
WE WERE OVER THE AVERAGE, BY WHAT 10%? WE GREW 22% BETWEEN 2010 AND 2022, FASTER THAN THE COUNTY WHICH IS 13.2.
WE'RE GROWING AND PEOPLE KNOW IT.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHO ARE MOVING INTO TAMARAC VILLAGE, WHICH THE WHOLE PURPOSE WAS TO MAKE THIS AN ELEGANT UPSCALE DOWNTOWN.
VERY EXCITED. PEOPLE OR BUSINESSES WANT TO COME, WHERE WE CAN CREATE A NEW SPACE AND A NEW FOOTPRINT FOR THEM.
RETAIL IS SUFFERING ELSEWHERE, BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINT HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED.
IT IS BASED IN 1970S AND '80S MODELS.
ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE OUR FACADE PROGRAM, IS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH OUR PLAZAS TO HELP THEM WITH THE RETAIL, AND MAKE IT NOW CURRENT.
YES, WE ARE THE NEW BROKER. WE CAN BE BETTER THAN BROKER.
I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY HERE, AND THAT IS GREAT.
IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE ALL BELIEVE IN OUR OWN CITY, IN THE BUY-IN HERE.
AS FOR SOME OF THE STUFF IN THE PAST, IT HAS BEEN TOUCHDOWN, COVID WAS A PROBLEM.
I CAN'T SAY WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING FOR THE BENEFIT OF WHEN JKM WAS HERE, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? THEY CLEARED THAT LAND.
THERE'S BEEN SOME INFRASTRUCTURE MINOR THINGS DONE.
THEY'VE DONE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO.
BUT THE PLAN WAS ALWAYS PUT IN PLACE.
THE REASON YOU'RE PAYING A DOLLAR IF YOU'RE IN THE TENANT, AND YOU'RE RENTING.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY BENEFIT OF IT? YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON IT.
THE GAME PLAN WAS TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE RULE WE GOT WAS BUILD A RESIDENTIAL, THE COMMERCIAL WILL COME.
WE HAVE A BACK ORDER, SO TO SPEAK ON PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE IN TAMARAC VILLAGE. IT IS COMMON.
YES, WE'RE HAVING A SLIGHT PROBLEM WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE MADE A CONTRACT WITH.
DID THE PEOPLE WE MADE A CONTRACT AT THE TIME WE MADE THE CONTRACT WITH GO INTO THIS WITH FALSE PRETENSE, OR DID THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY KNEW THAT THEY CAN DO THE BUILDING.
NOW AS AN EXCUSE, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEIR RESIDENTIAL ONLY.
I'M GOING TO CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THE LATTER.
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IT'S AN EXCUSE TO GET OUT OF A CONTRACT.BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN A BUILDER FOR YEARS.
THEY HAD ENOUGH SUPPORT TO MAKE US CONFIDENT, THAT THEY CAN DO THE COMMERCIAL PART.
THEY JUST WANT TO GET OUT OF IT, BECAUSE THEY SEEM MORE DOLLARS IN RESIDENTIAL THAN THEY DO, IF IT WAS COMMERCIAL.
ENOUGH BEATING UP THE CITY FOR A DOLLAR OR WHAT IT IS.
IN MY OPINION. SCAM, I DON'T THINK SCAM.
I THINK THEY NEED AN EXCUSE TO GET OUT OF A CONTRACT.
YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BENEFIT FROM A GREAT PROJECT.
AS FAR AS A BIG RESTAURANT IN THE CITY, HOW ABOUT SOME MORTON'S, THE STEAK RUTH CHRIS, MAYBE WE MAY NOT GET THOSE.
BUT I DO BELIEVE, AS MUCH AS I BELIEVE IN OUR LOCAL BUSINESS TREMENDOUSLY.
I DO BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A BRAND NAME, BIGGER RESTAURANT IN THE PLAZA.
REASON BEING IS THIS, YOU GET THEM IN AS AN ANCHOR, IT PULLS.
THE NEW BUSINESSES, THIS NEW STRUCTURE, WILL PULL IN TO LET THE SMALLER MOM & POPS, OR EVEN IS LOCAL BIG BUSINESS LIKE SAUL'S OR ANY OF THE OTHER PLACES THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED IN HERE, TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN THERE, AND INTRODUCE THEM AND TO HAVE THEM GROW.
I THINK WHEN WE PROGRAMMED THE PARK, ONE OF THE REASON WHY IT'S STILL OUR PROPERTY, THE AMPHITHEATER AND THE SPLASH PAD, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR, IS GOING TO BE A GREAT ATTRACTION TO THOSE BUSINESSES, WHO ARE GOING TO WANT TO COME HERE.
EVEN IF THEY MAY SAY, I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT TAMARAC, BUT THE LOCATION IS PHENOMENAL.
RIGHT OFF THE SAWGRASS, RIGHT OFF TURNPIKE, RIGHT OFF 95.
LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE, BECAUSE YOU LIVE HERE. IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.
I'M GLAD WE DIDN'T WAIT THE YEAR.
I WAS NERVOUS ABOUT WAITING A YEAR BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO DEAL WITH ANY OTHER MARKET CHANGES.
YOU DON'T WANT US, WE DON'T WANT YOU.
SEE YOU LATER BYE. LET'S GET GOING, LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT.
YOU'LL BRING IT TO US, AND WE'LL TALK MORE AT THE TIME WHEN THINGS ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SOME OF THOSE PLACES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE DELICIOUS, AND SOME OF THEM MAY NOT BE 100% FIT.
BUT WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT, AS WE GO THROUGH AND IT'LL BE NICELY DONE, MODERN LOOK AND HAVE A GOOD FEEL.
I'M VERY EXCITED ON THAT, SINCE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS HAD THEIRS UNLESS I THINK YOU ACTUALLY HAD TWO MORE MINUTES LEFT, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING.
>> I THINK YOU HAVE FOUR APPLICANTS FOR COLLIER UP HERE.
>> ON THAT NOTE, THEN WE ARE GOING TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE ACTUAL ITEM, WHICH IS TO TERMINATE THE TRUST, AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GOING OUT FOR BID, AND DOING OUR PROCESS SO WE CAN BUILD AS A FANTASTIC COMMERCIAL SEGMENT OF THE CITY.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER, WRIGHT.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I THINK I'M SORRY.
>> VICE MAYOR, COMMISSION, LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING BACK SOME REALLY EXCITING PARTNERS AND CONCEPTS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
>> THANK YOU. TELL KEVIN MORRIS, HELLO WHEN YOU SEE HIM, YOUR AFFORDABLE SERVICES DIRECTOR.
>> I THINK YOU SAID TO TERMINATE THE TRUST WHAT YOU MEANT TO SAY TO TERMINATE THE LEASE.
>> WHATEVER YOU READ OUT LOUD.
>> IN THE TITLE OF THE RECORD, THAT'S WHAT WE VOTED ON.
>> YES, WE'RE KEEPING THE TRUST IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITH THE NEXT GROUP.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IT IS 10:58.
IT IS TIME FOR A RESTROOM BREAK, OR WHATEVER BREAK YOU MIGHT NEED TO STRETCH YOUR LEGS.
WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 11:10 SHARP.
IT IS NOW 11:10. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SORRY [INAUDIBLE] MIGHT BE GROWING LOUDER THAN WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR.
WE ARE NOW MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM 6ATO2532,
[6.a TO2532 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida amending Chapter 10, Article 6, entitled “Rules of Construction and Definitions”, by specifically amending Section 10-6.2 entitled “Use Categories and Use Types Defined” of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances, to allow for an amendment to the definition of “Child Care Facility” to include private schools and to the definition of “School” to be consistent with Florida Statutes; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
CITY ATTORNEY PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 10, ARTICLE 6 ENTITLED RULES OF CONSTRUCTION AND DEFINITIONS.
BUT SPECIFICALLY AMENDING SECTION 10-6.2 ENTITLED USE CATEGORIES AND USE TYPES DEFINED OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ALLOW FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEFINITION OF CHILDCARE FACILITY TO INCLUDE PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND TO THE DEFINITION OF SCHOOL TO BE CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA STATUTES.
PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE?
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR,
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SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.AS THIS ITEM IS ON FIRST READING, THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MS. CALLOWAY, IS HERE TO DELIVER THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE IN THE JUNE 14TH MEETING IF THE COMMISSION DESIRES.
PLEASE, I'M TAKING THE WRONG WAY.
[LAUGHTER] SEEING NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. VICE MAYOR BOLTON?
>> THANK YOU, MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> THANK YOU. MOVING TO 6BTO2533 CITY ATTORNEY,
[6.b TO2533 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida amending Chapter 10, Article 6, entitled “Rules of Construction and Definitions”, by specifically amending Section 10-6.2 entitled “Use Categories and Use Types Defined” of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances, by amending the definition of “Auto Towing” and the definition of “Auto Wrecking and Salvage Yard” to be consistent with Florida Statutes; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 10, ARTICLE 6 ENTITLED RULES OF CONSTRUCTION AND DEFINITIONS.
BUT SPECIFICALLY AMENDING, SECTION 10-6.2 ENTITLED USE CATEGORIES AND USE TYPES DEFINED OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF AUTO TOWING AND THE DEFINITION OF AUTO WRECKING AND SALVAGE YARD TO BE CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA STATUTES, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE?
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
AGAIN, THIS IS AN ITEM ON FIRST READING, SO THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MS. CALLOWAY, IS AVAILABLE TO PRESENT THE SAME PRESENTATION.
SEEING NO DESIRE FOR PRESENTATION NOW, [OVERLAPPING] YOU WANT PRESENTATION OR DISCUSSION?
>> BOTH, JUST CONSIDERING THAT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD A BIFURCATED, SO MIGHT AS WELL KNOW WHY.
>> SO MS. MAXINE, IF YOU WOULD? MS. CALLOWAY, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR PRESENTATION THAT DEALS WITH THE AUTO TOWING RULES AND REGULATIONS?
>> ABSOLUTELY. MAYOR SEPARATED THE PRESENTATION.
AS PREVIOUSLY STATED WITH THIS ITEM, THE CURRENT DEFINITION UNDER A USED DEFINITION PROVISION IN THE CODE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA STATUTE.
OF COURSE, WE AIM TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DEFINITIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH STATES STATUTE.
THIS IS THE PROVISION THAT SPEAKS TO THE ABILITY OF THE TOWING COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO AUCTION VEHICLES.
THE CURRENT DEFINITION IN OUR CODE DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR THAT ABILITY.
THE DEFINITION IS BEING AMENDED FOR AUTO TOWING AND AUTO WRECKING AND SALVAGE YARD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN BOTH.
THIS IS THE DEFINITION CURRENTLY FOR AUTO TOWING AND WHAT IS UNDERLYING IS WHAT IS BEING ADDED TO MAKE SURE THE DEFINITION IS CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW OR STATE STATUTE.
WE'RE ADDING A VEHICLE OR VESSEL OF ANY KIND WHICH IS CAPABLE OR INCAPABLE OF BEING OPERATED DUE TO CONDITION OR LACK OF LICENSE OR REGISTRATION.
THEN THE BOTTOM PART, THE LAST SENTENCE, DOES SHALL INCLUDE THE SALE OF A VEHICLE OR VESSEL.
A PUBLIC SALE FOR CASH IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 713.78(6), FLORIDA STATUTES.
THE DEFINITION FOR AUTO WRECKING AND SALVAGE YARD, WE'RE ADDING VESSEL, STRIKING MOTOR AND JUST HAVING VEHICLES OR VESSELS.
THEN WE'RE INCLUDING THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE VEHICLES OR VESSELS INCAPABLE OF BEING OPERATED DUE TO CONDITION OR LACK OF LICENSE OR REGISTRATION THAT HAD BEEN TOWED, CARRIED HALLS ARE PUSHED FROM PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY WHEN SUCH VEHICLE OR VESSEL HAS BEEN ORDERED TO BE IMPOUNDED TO A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE IMPOUND LOT.
THIS IS PRIMARILY TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN BOTH BECAUSE YOUR SALVAGE YARD IS PRIMARILY FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING PARTS AND FOR RECYCLING AND RESALE.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE A CLEAR DISTINCTION THAT THIS IS NOT A TOWING OPERATION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I KNOW WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT AND USUALLY ITEMS COME UP BECAUSE THERE'S AN APPLICANT OR WHATEVER, THEN FIND OUT, WAIT A MINUTE, WE'RE OUT OF ORDINANCE BY THE STATES.
THE STATUE IS NOT PROPER IN OUR CITY.
WE HAVE TO THEN MIRROR THAT STATUE JUST FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES.
HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT? BECAUSE THE LAST MEETING, THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT FEES, THE WAY THIS WAS STRUCTURED.
I JUST WANTED TO, HOW DID THIS ITEM COME ABOUT?
>> MAYOR, IN TERMS OF THE ORIGINATION OF THIS LANGUAGE CLARIFICATION?
>> I BELIEVE IT WAS ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH THE APPLICATION THAT'S COMING IN FOR CITY LOCATED TONE BUSINESS.
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>> JUST THE RECORD, WHAT APPLICATION?
>> THE APPLICATION THAT'S ON THE AGENDA LATER ON, D&G TOWING.
>> I'M NOT SURE COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR HIM, BUT WE CANNOT HOLD IT FOR A LONGER PERIOD.
IT'S STATUTE PERIOD THAN THE TOWING COMPANY CAN DO AS STATUTORILY THEY CAN.
>> THE LANGUAGE WE'RE CLARIFYING IS REFERRING TO THE STATE STATUTES FOR THOSE CONDITIONS OF SALE, YES.
>> THEN LASTLY, EVERY OTHER TOWING COMPANY IN THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING THIS OR NOT DOING THIS OR JUST GOES, GETS APPLIED TO EVERYBODY.
>> OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS ONE OTHER TOWING BUSINESS IN THE CITY AND THEY'D BEEN OPERATING THIS WAY FOR AS LONG AS THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING.
>> IS THERE A CONFLICT THERE IF ONE BUSINESS IS OPERATING PER STATUTE, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT.
NOW WE HAVE ONE IS DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY BY COMING BEFORE US TO APPLY FOR IT, FOR US TO CHANGE IT.
>> THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS ITEM TO YOU, TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH FIRMS ARE OPERATING ON THE SAME EQUAL PLAYING FIELD.
>> WHO'S THE OTHER TOWING COMPANY THAT'S ALREADY DOING IT WITHOUT US ALREADY HAVE IT IN PLACE.
>> WELL, THAT'S ALL MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MS. CALLOWAY, YOUR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE MAKE THIS CHANGE.
>> [NOISE] COMMISSIONER WRIGHT?
>> I THINK MS. CALLOWAY, MY ISSUE LAST TIME WAS THE PREEMPTION THAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED ABOUT STATE LAW.
I WAS NOT SOMEWHAT COMFORTABLE THAT 35 DAYS JUST TAKING SOMEONE'S CAR.
I THINK WE GOT A SECOND OPINION, THE CITY ATTORNEY GOT A SECOND OPINION SAYING THAT WE CAN'T ALTER STATE LAW, THAT I WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THE DAYS, BUT LEGALLY, THOSE SECOND OPINION SAID THAT WE'D NECESSARILY CAN'T CHANGE THOSE DAYS BECAUSE STATE LAW PREEMPT US, IS THAT.
>> THAT IS CORRECT COMMISSIONER, THE CITY ATTORNEY DID ISSUE A MEMORANDUM OF LAW THAT WENT TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
>> WE CAN CHANGE IT FROM 35 DAYS TO 45 DAYS?
>> THE CITY ATTORNEY BELIEVES IN HIS MEMORANDUM OF LAW THAT WE ARE PREEMPTED BY THE STATE.
>> BY STATE LAW AND THAT'S THE FINAL THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] IN LAW.
[INAUDIBLE] CALLED COMFORTABLE.
YOU MENTIONED THAT WE CAN CHANGE IT BASED ON STATE LAW, BUT I THINK NOW.
IT'S A FIRM THAT WE CAN CHANGE ANYTHING.
AS YOU KNOW, MEMORANDUMS OF LAW ARE OPINIONS OF AN ATTORNEY WHEN THEY READ AND PROCESS WHAT THEY PROVIDED.
I RESPECT OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS GIVEN US WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS A ACCURATE REVIEW.
I DISAGREE AND L DISAGREE USING THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS.
WITHIN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN, IT SAYS 713 IS WHAT IS GOING TO DEAL WITH THE LIENS FOR RECOVERY AND TOWING AND STORING VEHICLES.
IN ITS OWN DOCUMENT, IT REFERS US TO WHENEVER A PERSON REGULARLY ENGAGE IN BUSINESS OF TRANSPORTING VEHICLES OR VESSELS, BY RECORD, TOW TRUCK OR CAR CARRIER RECOVERS, REMOVES ALL VEHICLE OR VESSEL UPON INSTRUCTIONS FROM, YADA, YADA, YADA.
THEN B, REMOVAL IS DONE WHEN COMPLIANCE IN 715.07.
WE GO OVER TO 7.1507, AND IT EXPLICITLY STATES, L CAN GET YOU THE NUMBERS IF YOU WANTED, 715.07 2B, THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE MINIMUM STANDARDS AND DO NOT PRECLUDE ENACTMENT OF ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS BY ANY MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY, INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO REGULATE RATES WHEN VEHICLES AND VESSELS ARE TOWED FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY.
>> THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE MINIMUM STANDARDS AND DO NOT PRECLUDE ENACTMENT OF ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS BY ANY MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY, INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO REGULATE RATES WHEN VEHICLES OR VESSELS ARE TOWED FROM PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THEREFORE, AS THE CITY COMMISSION, WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO REGULATE AS LONG AS WE'RE
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NOT STEPPING OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS AND BEING LESS RESTRICTIVE IN OUR REQUIREMENTS.USING THE MEMORANDUM OF LAW FROM OUR COUNTY CITY ATTORNEY, IT DOES STATE QUITE CLEARLY [NOISE] THAT IT IS EXPRESS PREEMPTION REQUIRES SPECIFIC LEGISLATIVE STATEMENT.
IT CANNOT BE IMPLIED OR INFERRED AND THE PREEMPTION OF A FIELD IS ACCOMPLISHED BY CLEAR LANGUAGE.
WHEN THE STATE STATUTE WANTS TO PREEMPT, THEY SAY, WE'VE GOT IT.
I UNDERSTAND THE ATTEMPTED INFERENCE TO SAY THAT UNLESS IMPLIED PREEMPTION OCCURS WITH THE STATE LEGISLATIVE SCHEME, REGULATION IS PERVASIVE AND THE LOCAL LEGISLATION WOULD PRESENT DANGER OF CONFLICT IN THE PERVASIVE REGULATORY SCHEME.
NOW REALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE EXTENDING 30 DAYS TO 60 DAYS TO SIX MONTHS IS A VIOLATION OF THE REGULATORY SCHEME AND IS GOING TO CREATE THE WHOLE REGULATION OF CARS BEING SOLD ON AUCTION FROM A TOW COMPANY, IS GOING TO MAKE THE WHOLE THING COME CRASHING DOWN IN THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE FLORIDA STATUTES DID EITHER, BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN THAT IT IS BACK TO THE CITIES IN THE STATE.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING PERVASIVE IN EXTENDING THE TIMELINE UNDER OUR CODE TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE, NOTHING MAKES US A CONFLICT THAT WOULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE ENTIRE REGULATORY SCHEME AS THAT'S THE QUOTE, PERVASIVE REGULATORY SCHEME THAT IS GIVEN TO US IN OUR MEMO.
THEREFORE, THE CITY OF TAMARAC CAN VERY WELL REGULATE BY EXTENDING THE TIMELINE BEFORE SOMEBODY'S PERSONAL PROPERTY GETS TOWED.
I KNOW THIS IS JUMPING THE GUN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE BACKUP THIS IN THE ITEM BEFORE US WITH THE TOW COMPANY THAT'S COMING BEFORE US, THEY SAY IN THEIR DOCUMENTS, THEY TOW A CAR AND THEY GET RID OF IT, IT GOES BACK TO THE OWNER WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO.
MAYBE WE'RE REALLY NOT DOING THIS JUST TO CHANGE ONE BUT IF WE HAVE A TOW COMPANY THAT IS DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEEN DEEMED THAT THEY CAN, THEN WE HAVE TO PUT THE TOW COMPANY THAT IS DOING IT INTO REGULATION AND IT SHOULD BE A REGULATION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION DETERMINES IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF WHOMEVER IS GETTING TOWED FROM WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS AND PUT THERE OR ACTUALLY DOESN'T MATTER.
IF YOU'RE TOWING FROM FORT LAUDERDALE AND YOU'RE BRINGING INTO OUR CITY MAKES US INVOLVED, AND THEN WE SHOULD BE EXTENDING IT BECAUSE WE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO.
IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER CONFLICT ABOUT THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO, I WOULD REQUEST AGAIN, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINION, TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY CLARIFIED.
I SEE OUR CITY ATTORNEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. GO AHEAD.
>> OF COURSE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
IT'S INTERESTING, WE THOUGHT THAT MEMO WAS SO CLEAR, BUT APPARENTLY, AS THEY SAY, ALL LAWYERS CAN DISAGREE.
THE POINT OF POINTING OUT THAT 715.07, WHICH IS IN RELATION TO TOWING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY ONLY, THE POINT OF THAT WAS TO SHOW THAT THE LEGISLATURE WANT US TO SPECIFICALLY LET YOU KNOW, THAT WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO MAKE ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION WHICH CHANGES THE STATE LEGISLATION.
THEY DID NOT DO THAT IN 713.78 ON PURPOSE BECAUSE IT IS SO PERVASIVE.
THEY ARE SO DETAILED IN WHAT THEY WANT TO HAPPEN.
THEY'RE MAKING THE POINT IN ANOTHER STATUTE THAT WE DON'T WANT YOU TO MESS AROUND WITH 713.78 BECAUSE WE ARE SPECIFICALLY GIVING YOU THE VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS, THE VERY DETAILED DAYS, THE VERY DETAILED NOTICE PROVISIONS.
WE COMMENTED ON THE SUPREME COURT CASE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT EXPRESS PREEMPTION IS NOT THE ONLY PREEMPTION.
THERE IS IMPLIED PREEMPTION, AND THERE IS NO CASE LAW ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, SO WE HAD TO LOOK OUTSIDE OF IT.
IF THIS COMMISSION WANTS TO HAVE AN AGO OPINION, YOU CAN.
BUT WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT IN OUR OPINION THAT IF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREEMPTED, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ALL OF THESE TOWING COMPANIES.
WE HAVE NOT FOUND ANY TOWING COMPANY OR ANY OTHER CITY WHERE THEY HAVE TRIED TO DO WHAT TAMARAC, THE MAYOR IS ATTEMPTING TO HAVE THIS COMMISSION DO, WHICH IS TO CHANGE THE DATES.
IF WE CHANGE THE DATES, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THIS WHOLE ORDINANCE.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE IT AND REARRANGE ALL THE NOTICE DATES AND THEN SUBJECT YOURSELF TO LITIGATION.
BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU IF I'M A TOWING COMPANY, THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE LITIGATION IF ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES
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ARE FOLLOWING THE STATE STATUTE AND YOU HAVE ONE CITY THAT REFUSES TO DO SO.THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO FILE A LAWSUIT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING.
I DO NOT THINK IT IS THE WINNING ARGUMENT, BUT IF THIS CITY WANTS TO HAVE AN AGO OPINION, JUST SAY THE WORD AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY GET IT.
AGAIN, ATTORNEYS DISAGREE, AND THE AGO'S OFFICE MAY CLARIFIED ENOUGH FOR THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> WELL, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I DO.
IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY DISAGREEMENT, IT NEEDS TO BE AN AG OPINION BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH YOU IN THE RESPECT THAT WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE ALL THE DATES.
THE NOTICE PROVISIONS, I GOT IT.
THOSE ARE NOT WHAT WE'RE PLAYING WITH.
ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, INSTEAD OF ONLY GIVING THAT PERSON WHO HAS A CAR THAT IS OLDER THAN THREE YEARS OLD, 35 DAYS BEFORE YOU SELL IT, OR AS ONE THAT'S YOUNGER THAN THREE YEARS OLD, YOU HAVE 50 DAYS BEFORE YOU SELL IT, THOSE DATES, THE TIMELINE, THAT EXTENDS OUT.
BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT NOTICE SHALL BE GIVEN NO LESS THAN 30 DAYS BEFORE THE SALE OF THE VEHICLE.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE STATE STATUTE.
YOU'RE STILL GIVING NO LESS THAN BEFORE THE TIME IN WHICH YOU SELL IT.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS SUCH A PROBLEM TO EXTEND THE PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT PERSON WHOSE CAR THAT ACTUALLY ENDS UP ON, IT'S NOT JUST YOUR LOT, IT'S WHICHEVER TOW COMPANY, THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL THING AT ALL.
ANY TOW COMPANY THAT HAS IN OUR CITY, HAS A CAR IN THERE, THAT THEY AFFORDED ENOUGH TIME IN THIS ENVIRONMENT THIS DAY AND AGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR CAR BACK BEFORE IT'S SHIPPED OFF TO SOME OTHER CITY, STATE, OR COUNTRY.
I'M NOT SAYING THE NOTICE PROVISIONS ARE WRONG.
THE NOTICE PROVISIONS ARE JUST FINE AND CAN STILL BE INCORPORATED.
IT'S JUST GIVING THAT CAR OWNER THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE TIME TO GET THE MONEY THAT IS BEING TAXED EVERYDAY TO THAT COLLECTION, TIME TO PAY IT.
BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT IF ANY OF US HAVE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE TOW COMPANY OR KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE ISSUE WITH THE TOW COMPANY AND TRYING TO GET THEIR VEHICLE, THEY SHOW UP WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S, I'M SO SORRY, IT IS ACTUALLY THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THEY WEREN'T PREPARED FOR IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T CALCULATE RIGHT.
NOT SAYING THAT THE TOW COMPANY DID ANYTHING WRONG.
THEY'RE NERVOUS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, THEY CAN'T GET IT OUT.
THERE'S AN ISSUE AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS.
THEREFORE, I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE OF CHANGING THIS BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO UP TO A STATE OPINION OR A SUPREME COURT OPINION.
YOU HAVE IT WITHIN OUR OWN DOCUMENTS, THAT'S WITHIN THE OWN STATUTE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT.
>> NUMBER 1, THIS IS NOT JUST FOR YOUR TAMARAC RESIDENTS, [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS NOT JUST ONE JURISDICTION, IT AFFECTS OTHER JURISDICTIONS AS WELL, SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.
WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT TO DO, JUST LET US KNOW, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD.
>> VICE MAYOR AND THEN I HAVE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
>> CITY ATTORNEY, ORDINANCES CAN BE REPEALED, RIGHT?
>> IF WE VOTE ON THIS TODAY AND THEN WE GET THE OPINION, THE MAYOR IS ASKING FOR, WE CAN ALWAYS REPEAL THE DECISION.
>> OKAY. IF A TOWING COMPANY, LET'S SAY FROM SUNRISE COMES TO TAMARAC, THERE'S A ROLLOVER OR THERE'S WHATEVER [INAUDIBLE], TOW ONE OF OUR CARS FROM TAMARAC AND THEN BRINGS IT TO SUNRISE.
THEN IT WOULD BE ON PREEMPTED LAW IN SUNRISE THAT WOULD PREVAIL.
>> YES, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE ORDINANCE ONLY DEALS WITH TOW COMPANIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN TAMARAC.
IF IT'S ANOTHER TOW COMPANY OUTSIDE OF TAMARAC THAT'S TOWING, THEN THEY WOULD STILL FOLLOW THE STATE STATUTE.
>> AS YOU KNOW IT, THE OTHER 30 CITIES DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING ON THE BOOKS, THEY FOLLOW STATE LAW.
>> I HAVE LOOKED THROUGH A FEW, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT I LOOKED AT ALL OF THEM, BUT I HAVE NOT FOUND ANYTHING THAT DEVIATES FROM [NOISE] THE STATE STATUTE.
>> THEN IF THE CARS FROM TAMARAC IS TOWED TO SUNRISE, OR A LOT OF THE LAKES, OR LOT OF HILL, WE WOULD NOT BE PROVIDING THEM ANY PROTECTION.
I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MAYOR TO GET THE OPINION THAT SHE'S ASKING FOR, BUT I'M NOT AGREEING TO NOT PASSING THIS ORDINANCE TODAY.
I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD CODIFY WHAT WE DO AND MAKE IT UNIFORMED AND CONCERT WITH STATE LAW.
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STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THIS, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS ISSUED AN OPINION TO THAT EFFECT.SO COUPLED WITH THOSE TWO MOVES, STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY, I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR THE OPINION, AT SOME POINT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS TO GO IN A CONSENSUS, BUT THE POLICE LET US [OVERLAPPING] [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT SHOULD BE, [INAUDIBLE] OFFICE LIKES TO HAVE A VOTE OF THE COMMISSION FOR US TO ASK THEM A QUESTION.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, I BELIEVED IT WAS COMMISSIONER DANIEL THAT SAID, THAT SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT RESIDENTS HAVING THEIR CARS TOWED AND SOME OF THEM GET PAID MONTHLY OR SOMEWHAT IN THAT NATURE, WHICH WILL THEN CAUSE THEM AN ISSUE.
IF THEY HAVE TO GO PICK UP A VEHICLE THAT'S TWO IN 35 DAYS.
EVEN THOUGH STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY DOES RECOMMEND IT, THIS BODY HAS THE OPTION TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF WHERE THAT VEHICLE GOES TO, WHETHER IT'S SUNRISE OR WHATEVER, IT'S LIKE GOING TO THE HOSPITAL.
MY WIFE PER SE WILL SAY, DON'T TAKE ME TO XYZ.
IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME, TAKE ME TO ABC.
I DON'T WANT TO GO HERE EVEN THOUGH THE HOSPITAL IS ONE MINUTE AWAY.
I THINK DEPENDING ON THE PERSON, BUT OUR DUTY IS TO TAMARAC RESIDENTS.
AGAIN, THIS BODY DOES HAVE THE OPTION TO EXTEND THAT, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SOME RESIDENTS GET PAID MONTHLY.
I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE OPINION OF, I THINK I SAW A HAND RAISED HERE OF THE APPLICANT.
>> NO, THIS IS NOT AN APPLICANT, THIS IS A FIRST READING, AND THIS IS AN ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, [OVERLAPPING] THIS IS A DISCUSSION.
>> THE APPLICANT IS HERE THOUGH.
>> THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING THAT I BELIEVE IN THIS IN SECTION 9 FOR A QUASI-JUDICIAL, THERE'S NO COMMENT FROM ANYBODY [OVERLAPPING] ON AN ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.
>> I WASN'T AWARE OF THE APPLICANT WAS HERE.
>> THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH FOLLOWING THE STATE LAW.
I AM CONCERNED, WITH ANY RESIDENCE THAT WAS SUFFER FINANCIAL BURDEN.
HOWEVER, I'VE HAD MY CAR TOWED BEFORE AND IT HURTS, BUT THIS IS WHAT 20 YEARS AGO, AND I DIDN'T SEE A SIGN, AND I DID GET MY MONEY BACK, BECAUSE THERE WASN'T A SIGN SAYING NOT TO TOW.
THE LAW HELPS YOU IN THAT RECOURSE THAT IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOUR CAR CAN'T BE PARKED THERE, THEY'LL GIVE YOU BACK YOUR MONEY.
I REMEMBER GETTING BACK MINE WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE.
HOWEVER, I'VE ALSO BEEN IN SITUATION WHERE ONE CITY LAW IS DIFFERENT.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE DRIVING IN NEW YORK, YOU END UP IN LONG ISLAND, YOU CAN'T TURN ON THE RIGHT.
IF YOU'RE NOT FROM THERE, YOU GET IN A TICKET, [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSISTENT.
I DO LIKE THE CONSISTENCY, SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR, WE START OUT WITH THE TREES, PERSEVERATION YOU GOT TO GO TO THE COUNTY, GOT TO COME BACK TO THE CITY.
CLARITY HELPS AND CONSISTENCY HELPS, SO I DO AGREE WITH CHANGING THE ORDINANCE, BUT I'M CURIOUS TO SEE FOR WHAT THE MAYOR SAYS WILL STAND, BECAUSE WHAT SHE READ I HEARD, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT WE HAVE THREE ATTORNEYS HERE.
WHAT SHE WRITES THAT ADDITIONAL RESTRICTION AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ON OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I ALSO HAD A COMMENT ON THAT, YOU'RE THE LEGAL MIND ON THE COMMISSION, YOU'RE QUALIFIED IN DC AND NEW YORK, AND FLORIDA, SO DEFINITELY YOU HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE.
YOU SAID LESS RESTRICTIVE, THAT COMMENT, IF IT'S LESS RESTRICTIVE, WE CAN ALTER IT.
>> BASICALLY. IN SCOPE OF THIS, IF THE RULE IS 35 DAYS TO 50, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CAR, WE CAN ALL OF A SUDDEN MAKE IT LESS RESTRICTIVE AND MAKING IT 15 DAYS AND 20 DAYS, BUT MORE RESTRICTIVE, WHICH IS MAYBE 45 DAYS, 50 DAYS, 60 DAYS ON THE FIRST ONE, AND THEN 80 DAYS, OR 180 DAYS ON THE SECOND, THAT'S MORE RESTRICTED, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.
>> IN REFERENCE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, I DO TRUST YOUR ADVICE, YOUR PROFESSIONAL, EVERY ONE OF US SAY, I HAVE MORE ELECTED OFFICIALS, SO WE SOMEWHAT HAVE POLITICAL AGENDAS, SO I DO TRUST YOUR OPINION AS A PROFESSIONAL, YOU HAVE 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND NOW YOU'VE DONE THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND MENTIONED WHAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS MENTIONED, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PICK WHERE YOUR CAR IS TOWED, YOU CAN PICK A HOSPITAL,
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BUT I'VE HAD MY CAR TOWED ALREADY AND I GO IN FORT LAUDERDALE.IF YOUR CAR IS TOWED, YOU CAN'T TELL THEM WHICH CITY.
AS DR. DANIEL MENTIONED, IT SHOULD BE WHERE IT'S CONSISTENTS AND WE KNOW IN FLORIDA, WE HAVE YOU TURN RIGHT, YOU'RE A MARGATE, YOU TURN LEFT, YOU ARE NOT LAUDERDALE, YOU'RE IN CORAL SPRINGS, SO WE HAVE SO MANY CITIES WITHIN OUR COUNTIES.
HAVING A UNIFORM STATE LAW MAKES IT EASIER TO LIVE AND FUNCTION, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY CITIES.
IF STATE LAW IS WHAT IT IS, IF IT PREEMPTS IT AND THIS IS A LEGAL OPINION.
I'M INCLINED TO CHANGE MY VOTE AND SUPPORT IT.
ALSO AS POLICYMAKERS, WE ALSO HAVE TO BALANCE THE NEEDS OF ALL SMALL BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THESE ARE COMPANIES THAT ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S TOUGH WHEN IT COMES TO THESE THINGS, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LAW, WE HAVE BUSINESS, WE HAVE OUR RESIDENTS, AND SOMETIMES WE GOT TO TAKE THAT BALANCE INTO IT.
BASED ON YOUR OPINION, I TRUST YOUR OPINION, YOU'RE THE CITY ATTORNEY, I AM INCLINED TO CHANGE MY VOTE, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY ISSUE AT FIRST, UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, YOU SAID, IT'S OKAY.
UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, TOP FIVE PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES.
I TRUST YOU GUYS OPINION WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY, MAYOR YOU'RE QUALIFIED OF MULTIPLE BARS, BUT WE'RE STILL AT THE END OF THE DAY.
WE HAVE POLITICAL LENIENCE AND I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT YOUR PROFESSIONAL [NOISE] ADVICE.
>> THANK YOU. BASICALLY, THIS IS NOT POLITICS, THIS IS POLICY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF EVERYONE, SO I'M SORRY, BUT POO ON THE POLITICS.
WE'LL GET THE AG'S OPINION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE GOT A CONSENSUS FOR, STATE LEGISLATURE CLEARLY EXPRESSING ROLE IN THE TOWING ITEM THAT THE CITY HAS A RIGHT TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO TO EXTEND IT.
IT IS NOT BEING REGULATING TO MAKE IT WORSE FOR THE PEOPLE'S CARS IN THERE, IT'S TO MAKE IT BETTER SO THEIR CAR DOESN'T END UP IN ANOTHER COUNTRY BEFORE THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY THE BILL.
THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF WHY I'M TRYING TO GET AN EXTENSION ON THE AMOUNT OF DAYS BEFORE THE CAR IS SOLD AT AN AUCTION.
NOT TRYING AND DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S MY ISSUE WITH THIS BILL.
STATE STATUTE DOES NOT SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE HOME RULE, AND IT'S A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR THAT WE WANT TO SAY, AS A COMMISSION, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR HOME RULE, WE'RE GOING TO BE MORE REGIONALIZED BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE WHAT OTHER CITIES WANT.
HALF THE TIME THIS COMMISSION DOESN'T WANT US TO BE LIKE OTHER CITIES AND OTHER HALF TIME THE CITY DOES.
REALLY WE NEED SOME CONSISTENCY, BECAUSE NOW WE WANT TO BE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEIR TOW RESTRICTIONS.
IT IS WHAT IT IS, THAT'S FINE.
BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS ON FIRST READING, THIS ISN'T SECOND READING, THIS DOESN'T MAKE IT LAW TODAY.
BUT YET WE HAVE A PERSON WHO'S COMING HERE BEFORE US TODAY TO CHANGE CERTAIN THINGS IN THEIR VARIANCE, POSSIBLE CHANGES, AND THAT CREATES A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY'RE ON NOTICE THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE AND THEY'RE ON NOTICE THAT THIS HAS NOT YET BEEN RESOLVED, BECAUSE THERE'S A SECOND VOTE ON THIS ITEM THAT COMES BACK MAYBE JULY 12TH, MAYBE NOT, DEPENDING ON IF WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR AG'S OPINION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PUTTING IT OUT THERE SAYING LET'S VOTE FOR IT AND THEN REPEAL IT.
WE DON'T LOOK VERY WISE ON THAT MEASURE.
THIS IS FOR ANYBODY WHOSE PRODUCT OR WHETHER IT'S BUSINESS, THEIR CARS ARE HERE, THEY'RE TRANSFERRING HERE, THEY'RE VISITING OUR CITY.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S NOT A TAMARAC RESIDENT, WE STILL HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ANYTHING OR ANYONE IN OUR CITY, AND THAT'S WHY I DO THINK IT IS NOT PROPER TO FOLLOW STATE LAW JUST BECAUSE WE CAN.
THAT IS THE SIMPLE THING TO DO, NOT THE HARD THING TO DO, TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, CITY OF TAMARAC STANDS AGAINST THE STATE LEGISLATURE'S DESIRE TO MAKE IT SIMPLE AND SAY, WE CAN SELL YOUR CAR TO 30-60 DAYS OR 50 DAYS.
I HAVE NO OTHER PROBLEM WITH THE ORDINANCE, BUT THAT ONE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON ORDER, BUT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER DANIEL AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, AND THEN BEFORE WE VOTE, JUST KEEPING IN MIND, WE VOTE FIRST ON THE FIRST READING, AND THEN WE COME BACK AROUND FOR A CONSENSUS ON THE BOOKS FOR WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE OIG, RIGHT?
>> YES, AND IF THE COMMISSION DOESN'T MIND, I WILL MAKE AN INFORMAL REQUEST TO THEM BECAUSE YOU CAN DO BOTH TO SEE IF THAT WOULD EXPEDITE THE PROCESS SO THAT BY OUR SECOND READING, WE CAN HAVE SOME ANSWER FROM THEM.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL.
>> WE HAVE COMMISSIONER DANIEL AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> NOW JUST CLARIFYING, CONSISTENCY DID NOT MEAN FOLLOWING OTHER, CONSISTENCY MAKE IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO UNDERSTAND THE STATE LAW, AND UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU DRIVE FROM CITY TO CITY, THE LAW IS THE SAME.
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY CONSISTENCY, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE CAN CLARIFY WHAT WE MEAN.
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I TRULY BELIEVE IN BEING OUR OWN.BUT IT'S JUST BEING CONSISTENT, SO WHEN YOU DRIVE FROM LIKE TO LIKE, BOULEVARD TO BOULEVARD, YOU KNOW THE RULE OF THAT CITY, IT'S CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THANK YOU.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I AM A FAN OF HOME RULE AS WELL.
ITS INTEREST IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE 10TH AMENDMENT PUTS THE HANDS IN THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE CLOSEST TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
BUT IN FLORIDA, WE'RE SOMEWHAT UNIQUE, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE FANS OF THE 10TH AMENDMENT USUALLY ARE THE ONES WHO PREEMPT US AS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
ON THE RECORD, I'M IN SUPPORT OF HOME RULE.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF US, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE, KNOWS BEST FOR THE PEOPLE IN TERMS OF MAKING THEIR LAWS IN EVERYDAY LIFE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT I'M A FAN OF HOME RULE.
BUT FLORIDA IS VERY UNIQUE BECAUSE THE CHAMPIONS OF THE 10TH AMENDMENT ARE THE ONES WHO PULLED THE POWER BACK TO TALLAHASSEE.
>> THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT, I THINK EVERYBODY'S POSITION IS QUITE CLEAR, WE'LL JUST CALL THE ROLL UNLESS THERE WAS OTHER COMMENTS.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES, 4:1.
>> EXCELLENT. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO EXPRESSLY STATE ON THE RECORD THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THE AG'S OFFICE, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, PROVIDE US WITH AN INFORMAL.
>> INFORMAL AND/OR BECAUSE THEY MAY SAY NO.
>> WHICHEVER ONE THEY CAN GIVE US QUICKLY.
ATTEMPTED TO BE HERE FOR THE JULY 12TH MEETING, PREFERABLY A FEW DAYS BEFORE, SO WE CAN READ IT, WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY OF TAMARAC CAN SPECIFICALLY EXTEND THE DATES, THE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR WHEN THE CARS CAN BE SOLD OFF A TOW COMPANIES LOT.
THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEING ASKED HERE.
THERE'S NO CHANGE IN NOTICE, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, IT'S SPECIFICALLY ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXTEND THAT.
BUT JUST CLARIFYING THE RECORD.
THIS IS SOME AG OPINION, AND I WOULD PREFACE TO SAY ANY CITY.
>> YOU CAN DO TAMARAC OR ANY CITY, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
IT'S COMING FROM US, WE'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS CONSENSUS TO ASK AG'S OPINION FOR IT.
THAT IS THE EXTENT AND BREADTH OF THE REQUEST. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT?
>> VICE MAYOR? COMMISSIONER DANIEL?
>> IT WAS MY IDEA, YES. IT WAS OUR IDEA, YES.
>> WHATEVER MAKES YOU PUT YOUR HEAD IN THE PILLOW AT NIGHT, THAT'S FINE.
MOVING ON TO ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING,
[8.a TO2530 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida amending Chapter 10, Article 4, of the Land Development Code of the City of Tamarac, Florida, entitled “Development and Design Standards”, by making certain deletions and additions, by specifically amending Section 10-4.4, entitled “Landscaping and Tree Preservation”, to allow the City of Tamarac to adopt and enforce its own tree preservation regulations, by providing for comparably stringent requirements and standards to the Broward County Code of Ordinances, Chapter 27, Article XIV, entitled “Tree Preservation and Abuse Ordinance”, by specifically complying with Section 27-407, entitled “Municipal Certification”; providing for codification; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
THIS IS 8ATO2530, CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 10, ARTICLE 4 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA ENTITLED DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS, BY MAKING CERTAIN DELETIONS AND ADDITIONS BY SPECIFICALLY AMENDING SECTION 10-4.4 ENTITLED LANDSCAPING AND TREE PRESERVATION, TO ALLOW THE CITY OF TAMARAC TO ADOPT AND ENFORCE ITS OWN TREE PRESERVATION REGULATIONS BY PROVIDING FOR COMPARABLY STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS TO THE BROWARD COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 27, ARTICLE 14, ENTITLED TREE PRESERVATION AND ABUSE ORDINANCE, BY SPECIFICALLY COMPLYING WITH SECTION 27-407 ENTITLED MUNICIPAL CERTIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> [LAUGHTER] THAT'S ALRIGHT. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR, DO I HAVE A SECOND?
>> I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, AND THEN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
THIS WILL NOW BE OPENED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
MS. CALLOWAY IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SEEING NO QUESTIONS, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SORRY, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
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>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5: 0.
>> THANK YOU. NOW, WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
[9.a. TBO72 - Board Order approving variance applications for Baron Sign Manufacturing, from the following sections in the Code of Ordinances: Section 10-4.10(D)(3)(j)(ii), to allow two (2) monument signs per street frontage for multiple tenant complexes in lieu of one (1) monument sign per street frontage; Section 10-4.1(E)(1)(a), Table 10-4.11, to allow for a maximum sign area of 86.67 square feet for Non-Residential, GFA > 65,000 square feet, in lieu of seventy-two (72) square feet; Section 10-4.1(E)(1)(b)(iii), to allow for a minimum distance of separation of ninety (90) feet as measured directly from sign-to-sign on the same side of the street of non-residential properties versus one hundred fifty (150) feet.]
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE BASICALLY ALONG LINED FOR THE SAME.CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE RULES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS IN GENERAL FIRST, PLEASE? MY APOLOGIES, LUST READ THE RULES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
ALL PERSONS TESTIFYING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION MUST BE SWORN IN WITH REGARD TO THE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED ON THE AGENDA AT THIS POINT.
THE PETITIONER AND ANY AFFECTED PERSON SHALL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE, BRING FORTH WITNESSES, CROSS-EXAMINING ANY WITNESSES, AND REBUT ANY TESTIMONY.
ALL EVIDENCE RELIED UPON REASONABLY PRUDENT PERSONS TO THEIR BUSINESS SHALL BE ADMISSIBLE WHETHER SUCH EVIDENCE WOULD BE ADMISSIBLE IN A COURT OF LAW, HOWEVER, IMMATERIAL OR UNDULY REPETITIOUS EVIDENCED SHALL BE EXCLUDED.
STATEMENTS OF COUNSEL SHOULD ONLY BE CONSIDERED AS ARGUMENT AND NOT BE CONSIDERED AS TESTIMONY, HOWEVER, COUNCIL FOR PARTIES SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION.
THE BOARD OR THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REFUSE TO HEAR ANY TESTIMONY WHICH IS IRRELEVANT OR REPETITIVE.
HEARSAY EVIDENCE MAY BE USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUPPLEMENTING OR EXPLAINING OTHER EVIDENCE, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT BY ITSELF TO SUPPORT A FINDING.
DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE MAY BE PRESENTED IN THE FORM OF A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL IF AVAILABLE.
UPON REQUEST PARTIES SHALL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPARE THE COPY WITH THE ORIGINAL.
THE PARTIES SHALL BE ENTITLED TO CONDUCT CROSS-EXAMINATION WHEN TESTIMONIES ARE PROVIDED OR DOCUMENTS ARE MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
GENERALLY, THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES OR THE MANNER IN WHICH THE PRESENTATION IS MADE IS FIRST THE PETITIONER OR HIS OR HER REPRESENTATIVE WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION, AND IF THE PETITIONER CHOOSES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION IT SHOULD INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE NATURE OF THE PETITION AND IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT HAS NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO YOU OR BY THE CITY.
IN ADDITION, TO THE PETITIONER WE SHALL INTRODUCE ANY EXHIBITS AND WITNESSES AT DESIRES OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PETITIONER TO DEMONSTRATE ITS APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF APPLICABLE AND WHETHER THE PETITION DOES OR DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODE.
STAFF WILL THEN PRESENT ITS REPORT.
THE STAFF REPORT WILL GENERALLY INCLUDE BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO A DESCRIPTION OF THE REQUESTS OF THE PETITIONER AND ANALYSIS OF THE PETITION'S CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF APPLICABLE AND WHETHER THE PETITION DOES OR DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO CITY CODE.
PARTIES WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE PETITION SHALL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
THE PARTIES SHALL INTRODUCE ANY EXHIBITS AND WITNESSES.
PARTIES WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION WILL THEN MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION.
CITY PERSONNEL AND ATTENDANCE SHOULD PROVIDE RESPONSES TO ANY PARTY TO THE PRECEDING AND FINAL PRESENTATIONS ARE THEN MADE BY THE APPLICANT AND CITY STAFF.
FINALLY, THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL DELIBERATE ON THE PETITION.
NO FURTHER TESTIMONY SHALL BE TAKEN AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL NOT ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS OF PERSONS PRESENTING TESTIMONY.
THE CITY COMMISSIONER SHALL DISCUSS THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE PROCEEDING AND VOTE ON THE PETITION BASED UPON THE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD.
NOW, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ 9A, TBO72 TITLE FOR THE RECORD.
>> THIS IS A BOARD ORDER APPROVING VARIOUS APPLICATIONS FOR BARON SIGN MANUFACTURING FOR THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
SECTION 10-4.10(D)(3)(J)(II), TO ALLOW TWO MONUMENTS SIGN PER STREET FRONTAGE FOR MULTIPLE TENANT COMPLEXES IN LIEU OF ONE MONUMENT SIGN PER STREET FRONTAGE.
SECTION 10-4.1(E)(1)(A), TABLE 10-4.11, TO ALLOW FOR A MAXIMUM SIGN AREA OF 86.67 SQUARE FEET FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL, GFA GREATER THAN 65,000 SQUARE FEET, IN LIEU OF 72 SQUARE FEET.
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AND SECTION 10-4.1(E)(1)(B)(III) TO ALLOW FOR A MINIMUM DISTANCE OF SEPARATION OF 90 FEET AS MEASURED DIRECTLY FROM SIGN-TO-SIGN ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET OF NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES VERSUS 150 FEET.>> NOW, CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES?
>> JUST CLARIFICATION BEFORE I DO THE SWEARING MAYOR, DO YOU WANT ME TO SWEAR IN ALL WITNESSES FOR BOTH ITEMS IN 9A AND 9B AT THE SAME TIME OR YOU WANT TO DO THAT SEPARATELY.
>> WE'RE GOING TO DO IT SEPARATELY. THANK YOU.
>> PERFECT. ALL WITNESSES FOR ITEM 9A, TBO72 PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
>> ALL OF THE WITNESSES ARE NOW SWORN IN.
>> ALL WITNESSES JUST SWEARING MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL NOW ASK IF THERE'S ANY DISCLOSURES BY THIS COMMISSION. GO AHEAD.
>> I SAID HELLO TO THE GUY EARLIER, THE TOWING.
>> I'M SORRY THIS IS ON OUR SIGNS.
>> NO DISCLOSURES ON THE SIGNS?
>> NO DISCLOSURES ON THE SIGN FROM THIS END AS WELL.
ONLY DISCLOSURE AS I'VE SEEN THIS PHOTOS, I'VE ASKED WHEN THEY'RE COMING AND THAT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MS. CALLOWAY, DO YOU WISH TO MAKE A PRESENTATION?
>> IT'S A QUICK ONE, JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THE IMAGES.
>> THAT WOULD BE NICE. I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD SEE WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
AS READ INTO THE RECORD, THERE ARE THREE VARIANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THE COLONY WEST SIGN.
THE FIRST VARIANCE HAS TO DO WITH TWO MONUMENTS SIGNS WHERE THE CODE ONLY ALLOWS FOR ONE.
THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW FOR A LARGER SIGN WHERE THE CODE ALLOWS FOR 72 SQUARE FEET, THE SIGNS WILL BE 86.67 SQUARE FOOT.
THE THIRD VARIANCE, THE SIGNS ARE GOING IN ON THE NORTH SIDE ENTRANCE AND WE'RE PUTTING INTO SIGNS AND THE CODE REQUIRES 150 FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE SIGNS AND THE VARIANCE IS ASKING FOR 90 FEET INSTEAD.
TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXTS, OF COURSE, THIS IS OUR COLONY WEST GOLF COURSE, WHICH INCLUDES A FAIRFIELD INN BY MARRIOTT HOTEL AND THE COLONY WEST GOLF CLUB THAT INCLUDES OUR RESTAURANT, THE VIEW AT COLONY WEST.
THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS COMMERCIAL RECREATION AND IT HAS A ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF RECREATION.
JUST TO GIVE YOU THE IMAGE OF THE FIRST VARIANCE, WHICH IS TO ALLOW THE TWO SIGNS AS IN LIEU OF ONE AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LOCATIONS FOR MONUMENT SIGN NUMBER 1 AND MONUMENTS SIGN NUMBER 2.
THIS IS THE IMAGE OF THE SIGNS, THE SECOND VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW FOR THE SIZE OF THE SIGN.
THEY ARE RATHER LARGE AND SO THE CODE ALLOWS FOR 72 SQUARE FEET.
THE SIGNS BOTH SIDES WOULD BE 86.67 SQUARE FOOT.
THE LAST VARIANCE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE SIGNS WHICH ARE CODE REQUIRES 150, THE DISTANCE IT WILL BE 90 FEET BETWEEN BOTH SIGNS.
THAT'S JUST AN IMAGE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND SUPERIMPOSING THE SIGNS IN THE LOCATIONS.
JUST TALKS ABOUT WHAT A VARIANCE IS, IS ESSENTIALLY A DEVIATION FROM THE CODE.
THERE ARE EIGHT STANDARDS THAT MUST BE SATISFIED FOR A VARIANCE, THE STAFF MEMORANDUM INCLUDES STAFF'S OPINION AND THAT EIGHT ALL EIGHT HAS BEEN SATISFIED.
THE VARIANCE ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A REVIEW OF THE STANDARD AND CONCLUSION BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT SUPPORTED MY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL, AND MATERIAL EVIDENCE.
IS STAFF OPINION THAT THE APPLICATION NEEDS THE CODE AS WELL AS GOAL NUMBER 3, AND THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE WILL ALLOW FOR THE ECONOMIC GROWTH OF THE COLONY WEST GOLF COURSE AND THE RESTAURANT.
STAFF IS THERE FOR RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
THIS ITEM WAS ALSO HEARD BY THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEY TOO RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
>> THANK YOU, AND I WILL NOW UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISH TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
I HAVE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR. MS. MAXINE, IS THERE ANY SIGNS GOING UP ON THE SOUTHSIDE ENTRANCE?
>> NO, THIS IS THE ONLY LOCATION.
>> BASICALLY MAXINE IF I SAY NO, I WOULD BE SAYING NO TO THE CITY.
>> YOU'D BE SAYING NO TO THE CITY AND TO FEARFUL IN THIS APPLICATION IS IN CONCERT WITH THEM AND THE SIGN IS A JOINT EFFORT THEY'VE PAID FOR THEIR PORTION OF THE SIGN AS WELL.
>> NOW, FOR QUESTION THAT WAS JUST ASKED BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS,
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YOU SAYING THAT THE SOUTHSIDE WHERE YOU COMING UP FROM CARL PALMS OR COMING UP FROM COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A SIGN?>> BOTH SIDES ARE GOING INTO THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE BECAUSE THE NORTH ENTRANCE.
>> WHAT IS THE RATIONALE FOR NOT HAVING A SIGN AT THAT OTHER ENTRY WAY THERE.
>> IT'S TO IDENTIFY THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE OF THE LOCATION.
HOPEFULLY, IT WON'T BE MUCH OF AN ISSUE.
I THINK IT LOOKS REALLY PRETTY.
>> I DO WORRY THAT THE VIEW LOGO IS NOT BOLD ENOUGH, STRONG ENOUGH, BIG ENOUGH TO BE SEEN.
>> THE SIGNS ARE BACKLIT, SO MEANING THAT IT WILL BE VISIBLE DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT.
BUT IT'S THE WAY IT'S CONSTRUCTED.
THERE'S GOING TO BE LIGHT EMANATING IN THE BACK OF THE SIGN.
>> WELL, HELLO LOGO, LITTLE VIEW.
JUST HOPEFULLY IT IS ABSOLUTELY.
PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO MISS THAT TOO.
THEY'LL SEE FAIRFIELD INN & SUITES.
THEY MAY SEE COLONY WEST WHERE IN THE BACK.
BUT IF THEY MISS A VIEW, THEN WE MISS OUR MARK, AND THAT HAS BEEN WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING.
THEY WANT TO GET TO OUR RESTAURANT.
THEY'VE HEARD SUCH GREAT THINGS, BUT THEY CANNOT FIND IT.
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME OTHER SIGNAGE, IF WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT ALREADY TO LEAD PEOPLE STRAIGHT AHEAD, BECAUSE STRAIGHT AHEAD IS COLONY WEST AND THE VIEW PART OF IT, WHERE FAIRFIELD INN IS IN THE FRONT, AND YOU'LL SEE IT MOST CAREFUL VISIBLY.
I'M JUST PUTTING MY CONCERN OUT THERE.
PEOPLE NEEDED AND THE CLUB IS HAPPEN.
PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THROUGH.
LET'S GET IT UP, AND IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER. COMMISSIONER, WRIGHT.
>> YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS OF THE MAYOR.
ONE OF THE PURPOSE OF SIGNS, AS WELL IT'S FOR MARKETING.
IF YOU MISS IT AT AN ASSAULT ENTRANCE AND YOU SEE IT ON THE MAIN ENTRANCE, THEN YOU'VE MISSED YOUR TURN AND YOU'RE GOING TO YOUR BACKEND [INAUDIBLE].
IF WE CAN LOOK IN TO HAVE IN SIGNS OF THE SAUL INTERESTS AS WELL.
I THINK THAT WOULD HELP WITH MORE PEOPLE, LOCAL FOOT TRAFFIC COMING INTO THE RESTAURANT, AND JUST PEOPLE LOOKING FOR A HOTEL IN GENERAL.
I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN ACCUSTOMED TO USING GOOGLE MAPS, AND THEN WE HAVE A WHOLE GENERATION WHO DON'T PAY ATTENTION.
BUT WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE 35, AND ALL THOSE STILL LOOK AT SCIENCE.
>> SOME OF US RESEMBLE THAT REMARK.
>> ALL RIGHT. NOTHING FURTHER THEN WE WILL TAKE A BREAK. OH, WAIT.
>> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A MOTION, AND OUR SECOND JUST YET BEFORE THE ROLL.
>> GOT YOU. THANK YOU. MY APOLOGIES. WE HAVE NOT.
THERE WAS AN ITEM, THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW, SINCE THERE'S NO CURRENT MOTION ON THE TABLE.
IF THERE'S A CURRENT MOTION ON THE TABLE, THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED.
>> NO. THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.
THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THAT COMMISSIONER WRIGHT JUST MENTIONED ABOUT WANTING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE SOUTH END.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT A MOTION? IS THAT A REQUEST FOR A REVIEW?
>> WELL A POINT TO IDENTIFICATION WHEN I MENTIONED IT WAS THERE'S THREE OF US, THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SOUTH ENTRANCE.
IF WE CAN SOMEHOW INCORPORATE THAT, OR DO A SIDELINE OR MOTION THIS END WITH A CONSENSUS, THAT A SOUTH SIDE, ENTRANCE SIGN.
>> TECHNICALLY, THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL, WHERE WE COULD PUT CONDITIONS. ON THE APPLICANT.
[LAUGHTER] I'M NOT LIKE TRIED EVERY KNOW THAT.
BASICALLY, AM I HEARING A MOTION FOR THE ITEMS THAT GO FORWARD WITH THE CONDITION THAT A SOUTH SIGN BE CREATED?
>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, AS WRITTEN IN ADDITION TO A SOUTH SIDE SIMILAR ENTRANCE TO SAY YOU'RE COMING IN, BECAUSE YOU'RE PASSING IT AS YOU'RE DRIVING SOUTH PALM OR SOUTH RIDGE, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED.
>> WE'RE COMING UP COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD ON PINE ISLAND, AND THEN YOU PASS GREENHAVEN AND THEN YOU'RE PASSING.
>> THE WHOLE COMPLEX AND TO LOOK AT THE VIEW WHICH DOES NOT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS, GOLF COURSE.
IT SAYS GOLF CLUB. I DON'T KNOW.
BUT YES, THE SOUTH SIDE ENTRANCE SIGN, I THINK MAY LOOK NICER.
I THINK THERE'S JUST SOMETHING MISSING THERE.
>> I MAY HAVE TO SECOND THE MOTION.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM, WHICH HAS THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. MR. DANIEL.
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>> NO. I WAS JUST WONDERING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE OVERKILL BECAUSE THE ENTRANCE ARE SO CLOSE.
IF YOU HAVE IN TO AT ONE AND THEN A THIRD.
I DON'T KNOW. IT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION WE'RE VOTING ON, RIGHT? NOT A DEMAND.
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OVERKILL, BASED ON THE SIZE AND THE LOCATIONS OF ALL, WE'D HAVE THREE.
>> I THINK IT IS A REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS ITEM, TO BE BROUGHT BACK ON THAT PORTION OF IT TO SEE IF SOMETHING CAN GO THERE, FOR TURN AHEAD OR SOMETHING NICE THING.
HOTEL AHEAD, HOTEL AND RESTAURANT AHEAD DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE SAME BLOCK MONUMENT SIGN.
BUT SOMETHING THAT IS A NICER SIGN TO SAY YOU'RE ALMOST HERE, YOU HAVE ARRIVED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT IS FOR DISCUSSION BETWEEN STAFF TO COME BACK TO BRING US OUT ONE.
>> MAYBE THEY'LL BRING OPTIONS.
>> CORRECT. IT'S NOT SAYING DUPLICATE.
>> MAY I INTERPRET YOUR DESIRE TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO SIGNS, AND PUT ONE NORTH, ONE SOUTH.
BUT FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD, MAJORITY IS FEELING WE DO WANT THE SIGN ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
WE JUST WANT THE VARIOUS SOUTH ENTRANCE AS YOU'RE COMING TO THE HOTEL, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MAY JUST WANT TO GO TO THE HOTEL, PARK IT.
THERE MAY NOT BE GOING INTO THE CLUB, BUT JUST TO KNOW THE FIRST RIGHT TURN INTO THE PROPERTY, THE SOUTH PART OF THE PROPERTY HAVE SOME DESIGNATION THERE, TO LET THEM KNOW MAIN ENTRANCE AHEAD IN A PRETTY WAY, OR THE VIEW AHEAD, THE HOTEL AHEAD OR THEY CAN ACTUALLY TURN IN THERE, JUST SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN NOTHING THAT WE HAVE.
>> THIS MAY BE A SEPARATE MOTION BECAUSE IS IT REALLY TIED TO THE VARIANCE? I THINK YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THE VARIANCE.
>> IT IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
BUT LOOK, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TIE THE CITY'S HANDS, BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA BE DISCUSSED IN THE VOTED UPON, VERSUS BRINGING IT BACK FOR ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, IT WAS BEING PUT IN AS A CONDITION, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY IS PART OF THE SAME TRANSACTION OCCURRENCE SO TO SPEAK.
>> SO YOU'RE OKAY IF THEY DECIDE, THAT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE WITHOUT IT COMING BACK, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BRING THE VARIANCE BACK.
>> NO. WE'RE NOT BRINGING THE VARIANCE BACK.
THE ONLY THING THAT WILL COME BACK BEFORE US, AND IT CAN BE DONE AT A WORKSHOP OF THE ITEM, OF WHAT THE SIGN LOOKS LIKE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE SIGN CAN GO THERE, UNLESS WE NEED A NEW VARIANTS AND WE NEED TO APPROVE NOW THAT THERE'S A GIVEN VARIANCE.
IF WE NEED ANOTHER VARIANCE BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN 150 FT.
I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT TOO.
MS. MAXINE, THIS FROM THE SOUTH OF THE TWO, FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
HOW MANY FT? IF YOU KNOW, MR. DOUGHERTY MIGHT HAVE TO JUMP UP TO THE SOUTH END OF THAT'S OTHER PART AND PARKING ENTRANCE.
IF IT'S MORE THAN 150 FEET, THEN WE DON'T NEED A VARIANCE AND WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. YOU CAN PRE-AUTHORIZE A VARIANCE, SINCE THE CODE REQUIRES THAT I NOTICED.
>>YEAH, YOU CAN PRE-AUTHORIZED.
>> BUT THANKFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A VARIANCE, BECAUSE WE'RE SUFFICIENTLY OVER 150 FEET.
ALL IT REALLY IS THIS FOR, WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS AN APPROVED SIGN.
THAT MEANS WE'LL WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IT, TO GO AT THE SOUTH ENTRANCE IF IT SHOULD SO WORK.
TRULY NOT WANTING TO BRING THE WHOLE VARIANCE BACK, WANT THIS THING TO GO FORWARD, AND GET THE SIGNS UP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YOU NEED US TO DO A BIFURCATION ON IT.
WE CAN, BUT I'M JUST AGAIN TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE RULES, OF PUTTING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO DEAL WITH THE SAME TRANSACTION OCCURRENCE, AND I'M PUTTING IT AS A CONDITION. WE'RE GOOD?
>> BUT THE CLARIFICATION, I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
>> EXCELLENT. FANTASTIC. LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5-0 AS AMENDED.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 9BTB074. CITY ATTORNEY,
[9.b. TBO74 - Board Order approving Special Exception to allow for modifications to previously approved conditions for D&G Towing and Recovery, LLC, located at 2760 NW 55 Court in the I-2 (Industrial) zoning district, pursuant to the Tamarac Code of Ordinances]
PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. A BOARD ORDER APPROVING SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO ALLOW FOR MODIFICATIONS TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CONDITIONS FOR D&G TOWING AND RECOVERY, LLC LOCATED AT 2760 NORTHWEST 55 COURT IN THE I-2 INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT,
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PURSUANT TO THE TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCES.CITY CLERK, PLEASE SWEAR IN ANY WITNESSES.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. ALL WITNESSES FOR THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
>> THANK YOU. WITNESSES HAVE BEEN SWORN.
I WILL NOW ASK FOR DISCLOSURES. VICE MAYOR?
>> NONE SINCE THE LAST TIME THE APPLICANT WAS HERE.
>> HE WAS HERE BEFORE. I'VE MET HIM.
I'M THINKING WE ALL SIGNED IT.
>> IN BETWEEN THE TIME WE HAD HIM HERE IN JANUARY. NOT FOR MYSELF.
>> SAID HI TO MR. DEBIAN ANABRICHA.
>> YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SAY HELLO. IT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT.
I NOW NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO MOVE THIS ITEM ALONG.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR BOLTON, AND I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
>> GOOD MORNING MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS.
>> DO ME A FAVOR IF YOU WOULD JUST PUT YOUR NAME.
>> DAVID SILVERMAN, REPRESENTATIVE OF D&G TOWING AND RECOVERY, 2716 NORTHWEST 55TH COURT, TAMARAC, FLORIDA.
ON THE 25TH OF JANUARY 23, THE COMMISSION APPROVED THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO ALLOW D&G TOWING AND RECOVERY, TO OPERATE WITH A SPECIAL EXCEPTION INCLUDING SEVEN CONDITION, OF APPROVAL HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THE REMOVAL OF FOUR CONDITIONS.
THE SEVEN CONDITIONS THAT WE WERE PLACED UPON US FOR WORKING WAS TO HAVE THE APPROVAL OF SPECIAL EXCEPTION CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF COMPLETION OF THE BUILDING PERMITS, SAFETY AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, ALL CONDITIONS WERE DONE, COMPLETED, SATISFIED, OUR SAFETY PERMIT RECEIVED, AND BUSINESS TAX WAS ALSO ISSUED.
THEY WANTED US TO BUILD A MINIMUM SIX FOOT HIGH CBS WALL.
CONSTRUCTION OF THE WALL IS NOT PRACTICABLE OR FEASIBLE.
A FENCE AND SHRUB TREES ALREADY EXIST.
I'LL ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY WE CAN'T ACHIEVE ANYTHING WITH THE WALL.
ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY LINES AND A FEW OF OUR BOUNDARY NEIGHBORS, WE TRIED TO BUILD A WALL, EVERYONE CAME OUTSIDE.
THEY CALLED THE POLICE, SOME PEOPLE CALLED CHANNEL 7 NEWS ON US.
WE WERE ASKED BY NEIGHBORS WITH THE POLICE TO GET OFF THEIR PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OURS.
BEFORE WE WENT TO THIS, I DID ASK SOMEONE FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, HEY, THIS IS GOING TO CREATE AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE HAVE OAK TREES BORDERING AND EVERYONE'S BACK PROPERTY.
BASICALLY, ALMOST ALL OF THE HOMES BEHIND OUR FACILITY IS ON OUR PROPERTY LINE.
IF WE PUT A WALL, IT'S GOING TO DESTROY EVERYTHING BACK THERE.
I DID REACH THESE CONCERNS THREE YEARS AGO, I WAS TOLD, HEY, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT YOUR PROBLEM.
CALL THE POLICE, IT'S YOUR LAND, THROW THEM OFF OR FIGURE IT OUT.
I DON'T REALLY SEE US BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE NEIGHBOR'S CALLING THE POLICE AND CHANNEL 7 NEWS ON US FOR THIS.
I DID REACH BACK OUT TO THE CITY AGAIN, EXPLAINING TO THEM, HEY, THERE'S A FENCE HER ALREADY IT HAS THE PRIVACY SLOTS.
IT'S BEEN HERE, THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND US, HIS SHED IS THERE, HE HAS FRUIT TREES, HIS KID'S PLAYGROUND IS RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S NOT MUCH WE COULD DO IT THAT.
AGAIN, THE ANSWER THAT I WAS TOLD WAS, IT'S YOUR PROPERTY, CALL THE POLICE, FIGURE IT OUT. I SAID, OKAY.
IT DIDN'T GO WELL AT ALL, MY NEIGHBOR ACTUALLY SITS BY THE BACK OF HIS FENCE EVERY MORNING AS SOON AS HE SEES US TO AGREE WITH US.
HEY, ARE YOU GUYS PLANNING TO DO ANYTHING TODAY? I WAS LIKE, NO WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO DO THAT.
ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS HE HAD ALSO WAS, I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED A WALL BECAUSE THE AIRPORT IS RIGHT HERE.
IF YOU PUT A WALL HERE, IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN MORE VIBRATION AND MORE NOISE.
I SAID, HEY, I RAISE THESE BEFORE AND HE WROTE ALSO TO TAMARAC EXPLAINING, WE DON'T WANT A WALL.
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THIS HAS BEEN HERE AND WE'RE PERFECT, IF ANYONE PUT A WALL, WE'RE GOING TO SUE NOT ONLY US, WE'RE GOING TO SUE THE CITY.WE WERE GREAT UNTIL THE WALL CONVERSATION HAPPENING BETWEEN US BASICALLY, I'M GOING TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST.
I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH.
I DID ASK ABOUT THESE BEFORE THEY WERE PLACED ON US.
WE DIDN'T TOO MIND BECAUSE YOU NOTICE THREE YEARS, I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY AS A BUSINESS OWNER, TO COME TO THE CITY TO WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE OUR FOREVER HOME AND ACTUALLY BE ACCEPTED AND WORK AND DO THE RIGHT THING IN THE CITY.
I FELT NOTHING WAS BEING DONE TO HELP US AND WE WERE JUST BEING THROWN AROUND BACK AND FORTH FOR THREE YEARS AND IT MADE NO SENSE TO ME.
I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'LL TAKE IT BECAUSE WE HAD ANOTHER FACILITY IN FORT LAUDERDALE.
FORT LAUDERDALE WE WEREN'T HAVING ANY ISSUES, BUT AS WE SAW A COUPLE PROBABLY TWO MONTHS AGO, THAT ENTIRE FACILITY WENT UNDER WATER. IT FLOODED.
WE COULD NO LONGER WORK THROUGH THE CITY BASICALLY DIM THE ENTIRE AREA TO BE TAKEN DOWN. WE END UP COMING HERE.
NOW WITH THIS, WITH A LOT OF THESE CONDITIONS WE CANNOT OPERATE.
THE OTHER ONE WAS THE STORAGE OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, VESSELS NOT RELATING TO THE TOWING COMPANY AND CONTAINERS.
NORMALLY, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TOWING COMPANY.
WE TOW COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, WE TOW BOATS.
IF A COMMUNITY CALLS US TO TOW, WE HAVE DISMANTLED BOAT FROM THEIR COMMUNITY, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BRING IT TO OUR FACILITY BECAUSE THEY'RE STATING WE CAN, WHICH IT'S A PART OF THE TOWING ORDINANCE FOR THE COUNTY AND THE STATE.
I WAS LIKE, HOW CAN WE DO THIS? THEY'RE LIKE, WE DON'T ALLOW IT, SO YOU CAN'T DO IT.
I ASKED AGAIN, ARE YOU POSITIVE? YEAH. ANSWER THAT WE GOT WAS NO YOU CAN'T DO IT.
WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO THAT. LET ME JUST RUN THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
ALSO, IT SAYS THE STORAGE OF JUNK AND IRREPARABLE CARS ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
I ASKED AGAIN, WE'RE TOWING BUSINESS.
THIS INCLUDES TOOLING ALL OF THESE VEHICLES.
IF A CAR CRASH, IF IT'S JUMPED, IF IT'S ROLLED OVER, IF IT'S SUNKEN, THIS IS THE BUSINESS WE DO.
YOU'RE BASICALLY TYING MY HANDS WITH THIS.
I WAS TOLD AGAIN, THIS IS THE CITY ORDINANCE.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, SO FORTH THAT'S OKAY.
THE AUCTION OF VEHICLES AND OTHER TYPES OF TRANSPORT TO BE SUBJECT TO THE PROPERTY IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
I KNOW YOU GUYS SPOKE ABOUT THIS EARLIER, SO I CAN SPEAK ABOUT IT HERE.
BY LAW, WE ARE ALLOWED TO AUCTION VEHICLES WE'RE A TOWING COMPANY.
NOW, TOWING COMPANIES ARE ORDINANCE BY THE STATE AND THE COUNTY.
RULES THAT THEY HAND OUT TO US ISN'T WHAT WE CREATE, THAT'S WHAT THEY GIVE US.
THEY ALLOW US 35 DAYS FOR VEHICLES YOUNGER THAN THREE YEARS, YOU HAVE TO SEND OUT LEGAL NOTICES BY FOURTH TO FIFTH BUSINESS THAT IS LETTING THE PERSON KNOW, HEY, YOUR VEHICLE WAS IMPOUNDED, YOU HAVE TO SEND A LEGAL NOTICE AD CERTIFIED NOTICE THAT, HEY, YOUR CAR WAS IMPOUNDED, THIS IS WHERE IT WAS IMPOUNDED FROM THE TIME AND THE DATE.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO LOGGED IT IN.
IF YOU HAVE INSURANCE, WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM.
IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE ADDRESS WHEN IT'S PULLED, WE HAVE TO SEND A LEGAL DOCUMENT AND A CERTIFIED LETTER TO EVERY ADDRESS.
IF YOUR CAR IS OWNED BY A BANK, THEY ALSO GET A NOTICE THAT YOUR CAR WAS IMPOUNDED.
WE CANNOT ALTER THOSE DATES BECAUSE IF WE DON'T SEND OUT A NOTICE BEFORE THE SEVENTH DAY, WE CANNOT CHARGE STORAGE FEES. IT'S ILLEGAL.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO CHARGE A DOLLAR AND STORAGE EVEN IF YOUR CAR SITS AT OUR LOT FOR 180 DAYS, IT'S ONLY THE TOLL FEE, THERE'S NO STORAGE.
BROWARD COUNTY HAVE THEIR OWN CONSUMER BILL OF RIGHTS, WHICH IS ON EVERY TOW COMPANY WITH THE NUMBER.
IF YOUR CAR WAS TOWED AND THEY SAY, HEY, THEY TOWED MY CAR, THERE WAS NO SIGN, IT WASN'T LOGGED IN.
YOU CALL EVERYBODY HAS IT, IT'S ON OUR INVOICE, IT'S ON THE BUILDING.
THEY WILL COME OUT, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INVESTIGATORS, [LAUGHTER] THEY CALL IF YOUR INVOICES INACCURATE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PHOTOS OF A VEHICLE.
IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT SOUNDS THAT, HEY, WE COULD JUST TAKE YOUR CAR, WE CAN DO THIS.
THERE'S A LOT OF LEGALITIES BEHIND IT AND THE COUNTY, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE COMPLAINT ISN'T TRUE.
ONCE SOMEONE CALLS THAT NUMBER, THE COUNTY IS GOING TO SEND YOU AN EMAIL.
THEY'RE GOING TO CALL YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT, THEY NEED THE DOCUMENTS, PHOTOS, CUSTOMERS INFORMATION, WHERE IT WAS TAUGHT FROM, WHO AUTHORIZED IT, WHO SIGNED OFF ON IT, WHEN WAS YOUR NOTICES SENT OUT.
EVERYTHING HAS TO BE PLACED PUBLICLY IN A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE ALSO, SO IF YOUR CAR ISN'T PLACED IN A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, I TAKE YOUR CAR AND I LIKE YOUR CAR AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET IT BACK.
I COULD SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BLANK NOTICE, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
ONCE WE TURN THE PACKET INTO THE TAG AGENCY, THEN IT GOES TO TALLAHASSEE TOWING COMPANIES ORDINANCE.
IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE TITLE ISSUED.
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TALLAHASSEE OVERLOOKS ALL YOUR DOCUMENTS TO MAKE SURE IT WAS DONE THE RIGHT WAY.IF YOU'RE OFF BY A DAY, YOU WILL NOT GET A TITLE.
YOU HAVE TO REDO THE ENTIRE PACKET AND THEN THE CUSTOMER CAN SAY, HEY, I'M NOT PAYING FOR MY CAR.
YOU CAN ARGUE, YOU HAVE TO RELEASE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS TO IT.
THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT, IF YOU GUYS WANT THAT DOCUMENT ALSO, IT'S ON BROWARD COUNTY LICENSING.
IT TELLS YOU IT'S A CONSUMER BILL OF RIGHTS.
EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO IT, IT'S ALL PUBLIC.
SO YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS JUST IN THE BACK OF OUR AREA.
THESE WERE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAD WHERE THE OAK TREES THERE WAS TWO HUGE OAK TREES THAT BORDER THE PROPERTY WALL AND THAT BORDERS OUR AREA.
NOW THE OAK TREE DO NOT STOP OUR PROPERTY LINE; OUR PROPERTY LINE ACTUALLY STOPS RIGHT ABOUT WHERE YOU SEE THE BACK DOORS FOR THESE PROPERTIES.
IF YOU LOOK OUR SHED IS WHERE YOU SEE THAT LITTLE CONCRETE AREA, IT'S AN X IN THE BOX.
OUR PROPERTY LINE ACTUALLY EXTENDS ALL THE WAY DOWN, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT THERE.
I EXPLAINED TO THEM, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A NIGHTMARE WITH ANYONE.
WE'RE PERFECT. WE'LL KEEP THE SPACE WE HAVE AND JUST CALL IT A DAY.
THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THESE THINGS CAME ABOUT.
WHEN WE DID COME BACK, I SAID, HEY, I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION TO GET THIS FIXED.
THEY SAID, WELL, YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
YOU DIDN'T TAKE IT. I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHEN I ASKED YOU BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW, CAN WE DO THIS? YOUR ANSWER WAS NO.
THE CITY WOULD RATHER BUILT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAN HELP SMALL BUSINESSES WAS THE ANSWER WE WERE TOLD SEVERAL TIMES.
THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS ASKED US FOR.
WE HAVE MET ALL THE CONDITIONS.
THESE ARE JUST THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD REALLY STOP US FROM OPERATING A BUSINESS IN THE CITY AT ALL.
>> MS. CALLOWAY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PRESENT TO US?
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT STAFF BELIEVES, THAT THE APPLICATION OR THE STANDARDS IN THE CODE HAS BEEN SATISFIED.
AND SO THESE ARE THE THREE CONDITIONS, THAT WOULD BE REMAINING AFTER REMOVAL OF THE FOUR CONDITIONS AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE STORAGE OF VEHICLES AND VESSELS UNRELATED TO THE TOWING BUSINESS IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
UNRELATED MEANING THAT OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T STORE YOUR COUSINS OF YOUR PLANTA PROPERTY, OR STORE ANY OTHER HAS TO BE RELATED TO THE BUSINESS, AND THEREFORE IS ABLE TO BE STORED.
ANY TYPE OF REPAIR OR REFUELING OF A MOTOR VEHICLE OR VESSEL OF ANY KIND THAT HAS BEEN IMPOUNDED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
MEANING THAT, OF COURSE IT CAN FUEL IN EVERYTHING THEIR OWN VEHICLE.
BUT NOT RUN A BUSINESS OF REPAIR, AND FEELING ENOUGH THE VEHICLE THAT THEY'VE BEEN POUNDED.
AND FINALLY, THE CONDITION THAT WE ALWAYS ADD TO ALL SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPLICATION, IS THAT THE APPLICANT DEGREES AT ANY TRANSFER OF SPECIAL EXCEPTION, INCLUDING ALL ASSOCIATED CONDITIONS WOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED BY ANY FUTURE OWNER OR THE NEW OWNER IN WRITING.
>> THANK YOU. I'M NOW GOING TO OPEN UP THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MAKE ANY STATEMENTS? SEEING NONE.
PUBLIC HEARING PART OF THIS IS NOW CLOSED, AND I HAVE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MS. MAXINE, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE HAD THESE RESTRICTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE? I DON'T RECALL, BACK IN JANUARY.
WHAT AND WHY ARE THESE THREE REMAINING, AND WHAT IS THAT THING?
>> THE CONDITIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE WITH THE ONLY TOWING COMPANY THAT'S IN THE CITY.
WE INCLUDE THAT THE SAME CONDITIONS?
>> YEAH. WE INCLUDED THE SAME CONDITIONS FOR THIS APPLICATION AT THE TIME.
IT WAS LATER THAT IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, WHEN I MET THE APPLICANT IN PERSON, THAT BY OPERATION OF LAW AND OTHERWISE SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS COULD JUST NOT BE FULFILLED BY THE APPLICANT.
>> WHAT ABOUT WESTWAY'S DURING DIFFERENT CITIES? SO DOES IT MATTER, RIGHT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU. WELL, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
THEN I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP THE STATUTES, THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AND ACTUALLY YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT CHARGES, AND THINGS THAT ARE SET AND THAT YOU COULDN'T DO THIS AND COULDN'T DO THAT.
THAT TAKES A LITTLE MORE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO IN A FEW MINUTES, AND STILL PAY ATTENTION AND GIVE YOU FULL ATTENTION TO IT.
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BUT JUST WANTING TO POINT OUT, THAT FLORIDA STATUTE DOES PUT BACK THE RATES TO THE COUNTY, AND NOT TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE CITIES UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES 125.013(C), AND THEN 166.043 I'M REALLY NOT SAYING WHETHER TRUTH OR FICTION, OR WHATEVER TO THE FACT THAT YOU SAY YOU CAN'T CHARGE ANOTHER DAY FOR STORAGE, WHEN IT'S NOT MOVING CERTAIN FORWARD, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE WHERE THE STATE REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE TO SELL THAT PROPERTY, OR REMOVE THAT PROPERTY FROM YOUR LOT.SO THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER AREA THAT I REALLY DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME A LOT MORE IN THERE. IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER, YOU CAN.
>> WELL, WHAT WAS GAVE TO US, SO YOU HAVE TO RUN ADS.
MEANING YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE WOUNDS OF VEHICLE, ONCE THEY'RE IMPOUNDED THEY HAVE TO BE LOGGED IN WITH A POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEREVER IT CAME FROM.
SO SAY IT CAME FROM LAUDERDALE TO TAMARAC, YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES TO LOG THAT VEHICLE IN.
ONCE THAT VEHICLE IS ON YOUR LOT, YOU'LL HAVE TO VERIFY WHO THE OWNERS ARE.
IF THAT VEHICLE SITS BEFORE THE FIFTH DAY, YOU HAVE SEVEN DAYS TO SEND OUT NOTICES.
BUT BEFORE THE FIFTH DAY, YOU HAVE TO LIEN IT, WHICH THEY SEND OUT CERTIFIED NOTICES.
THEN YOU HAVE TO SEND ALL THAT DOCUMENT TO A PUBLIC NEWSPAPER.
THEY HAVE TO, THEN POST IT IN A PUBLIC ARTICLE THAT HEY, THESE WERE THE DAYS OUR CARS GO FOR AUCTION.
IF YOU DO NOT DO THAT, AND THIS IS JUST HOW IT IS, THERE HAS BEEN A VEHICLE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT, THAT WE HAVE MESSED UP, THEN WE PLACE THE LIEN A DAY LATE.
ONCE YOU GO BACK INTO PLACE A LIEN, YOU CAN'T PUT A FEE.
WHEN YOU GET THE NEW NOTICE, IT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU, HEY, THERE IS NO STORAGE ON THIS.
I CAN'T JUST WRITE IN A NUMBER.
SO WHEN YOU GET THAT NOTICE, ALL YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ON THERE IS THE TOTAL FEE, AND THE ADMIN FEE, NOTHING ELSE, BECAUSE WE DON'T CONTROL THAT.
IF SOMEONE EVER GETS THEIR CAR, AND TOLD THAT IT IS SENT, ONCE YOU COME TO OUR FACILITY, AS I SAID, THE BROWARD COUNTY CONSUMER RIGHTS IS ON THE BACK OF OUR INVOICES, IT'S POSTED THROUGHOUT.
THEY COME AND INSPECT THESE EVERY YEAR.
BROWARD COUNTY IS ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, SO YOU'LL SEE IT.
>> BUT IT REQUIRES ALL THIS NOTICE FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE KNOWS WHERE IT IS AND SO THE POLICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT KNOWS, THAT THERE'S A VEHICLE THERE.
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU THAT YOU HAVE TO SELL IT.
BUT IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN AUCTION TIME ON THERE, IT DOESN'T SAY YOU CAN'T NOW GO AND POST IT AND SELL IT LATER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER PROVISION ON THERE TO THEN MAKE SURE YOU GIVE NOTICE OUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL IT.
>> YES. YOU HAVE THE AUCTION DATE, AND WHEN THE AUCTION DATE IS THERE, HOW IT IS IT'S FOR YOUR FEES AND STORAGE, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PUBLISH IT AS A BUSINESS, WE CANNOT COLLECT AT ALL.
SO THEN SAY THE CAR IS 10,000, IT SOLVES FOR AN AUCTION.
WE HAVE TO TAKE WHAT OUR FEES ARE, AND THEN THE REST OF THAT IS THEN SENT TO BROWARD COUNTY.
BROWARD COUNTY HOLDS THAT AND AS YOU AS THE OWNER, IF YOU GO TO CLAIM IT, YOU DO.
IF YOU DON'T, THE COUNTY ACTUALLY JUST ABSORBS IT. WHAT I WAS TOLD.
>> RIGHT. BUT THERE'S A WAY I'M PRETTY SURE A LEGAL EASE, AND THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING, YOU MIGHT NEED TO SPEAK TO YOUR ATTORNEY ABOUT.
BUT YOU'RE PUTTING IN A NOTICE SAYING THIS COULD GO FOR AUCTION, AND IF YOU PUT IN NEW DATES, IF WE HAVE TIMES AND DATES OF WHEN IT GOES TO AUCTION, YOU'RE PERFECTLY FINE AND FULFILLING THE REQUIREMENTS, AND BE ABLE TO GET YOUR STORAGE FEES AND COSTS IN THERE.
I DON'T THINK, BECAUSE THE COUNTY AND THEN THE MUNICIPALITIES CAN GET TO SET IT, ACCORDING TO THE FLORIDA STATE RULES THAT I'M LOOKING AT VERY QUICKLY RIGHT NOW.
MOVING THAT ASIDE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE HEARING ABOUT THE FENCE, THAT FENCE BELONGS TO WHO?
>> I BELIEVE US WE PLACED THE FENCE THERE.
>> I'M GETTING A LESSON IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT INDUSTRY AND IT DOES REQUIRE YOU, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO NOT HAVE LIABILITY ON YOUR PROPERTY TO CERTAIN THINGS BEING STOLEN OR BEING DAMAGED.
>> AS LONG AS THAT FENCE IS YOURS, AND THE COMMUNITY AROUND YOU IS NOT HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THAT FENCE, AND NOT SAYING SCREEN IT OUT, THEN PERSONALLY, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT EXCEPTION BEING REMOVED, BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE WHAT YOU CAN.
I DON'T FULLY BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU, YOU CAN'T DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY, THAT BELONGS TO YOU, THAT IS YOUR PROPERTY.
YOU DON'T GIVE THEM YOUR RIGHTS, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO THREATEN YOU TO GO TO CHANNEL 7.
LOOK WE'RE ALL BEEN THREATENED THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHANNEL 7.
>> THEY ESCORTED US OFF THE PROPERTY.
WE WENT TO DO A NEW SURVEY AND THEY CALLED THE POLICE, AND THE POLICE DIDN'T ASK US TO MOVE.
>> BUT THEN THERE'S A PROBLEM THEN WITH THAT POLICE OFFICER TAKING AWAY YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS, BECAUSE IT BELONGS TO YOU.
YOU HAVE A SURVEY, IT SAYS WHO IT BELONGS TO.
I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OFFICERS SHOULD BE TELLING YOU, YOU CAN'T BE ON YOUR PROPERTY, IF YOU'RE PUTTING THE BUILDING AND YOU'RE DOING THINGS ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY, THEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRESPASS YOU AWAY.
>> HERE'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
WHEN THE NEIGHBORS CALLED THE CITY,
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SOMEONE IN THE CITY EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT OUR SURVEY IS INACCURATE AND OUR SURVEY CANNOT SHOW, THAT THAT'S THEIR PROPERTY.SO THIS IS WHERE ALL THE BACK-AND-FORTH STARTED.
>> BUT THAT'S PROPERTY OWNER, BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNER, THAT GOES BETWEEN YOUR ATTORNEY, AND YOUR NEIGHBORS' ATTORNEY AND NOT THE CITY.
THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S TRUTH OR FICTION UNTIL YOU HAVE THE PAPER, NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, BECAUSE MY TIME IS GOING.
IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE NUMBERS, YOU HAD THOSE LISTS.
ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE CONCERNS WITH, MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO ME YOUR ADVERTISING SAYS, "MONTHLY AUCTION OF CARS." YOUR WEBSITE SAYS, "WE BUY JUNK CARS.
WE PAY CASH FOR YOUR CAR ON THE SPOT.
WE BUY YOUR CAR UNTIL AT THE SAME DAY."
>> OKAY. THAT'S NOT IN YOUR TOWING RESPONSIBILITIES FOR WHAT THE CITY HAS YOUR LICENSE FOR HERE, IS IT?
>> NO. THOSE JUNK CARS AREN'T TAKEN TO OUR FACILITY, THAT'S PURCHASED.
THOSE CARS ARE TAKEN TO RECYCLERS.
IF SOMEONE CALLS AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A JUNK VEHICLE, CAN YOU FIND SOMEONE INSTEAD OF ABANDONING IT? YES, WE PURCHASED THE VEHICLE. THEY GET THE CASH.
WE HAVE VENDORS LKQ, MNL, OR LMR AND THEY WILL PURCHASE THE VEHICLES.
THOSE DON'T COME AND SIT IN OUR PROPERTY FOR RECYCLING.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKEN TO RECYCLERS.
>> OKAY. SO THEN THERE'S NO WORRYING, ABOUT THAT PART OF YOUR BUSINESS BEING PUT INTO THE CITY OF TAMARAC ON YOUR PROPERTY.
>> ACCORDING TO THE LETTER WRITTEN BY YOUR ATTORNEY, GISELLE MAXWELL, IT SAYS THE APPLICANT IS ENGAGED IN TOWING TO REPOSSESS, AND LEGALLY PARK PRIVATE USE PASSENGER VEHICLES, WHICH ARE STORED FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
THERE ARE NO WRECKED OR DAMAGE VEHICLES STORED ON THE PREMISES.
THE VEHICLES ARE STORED UNTIL THEY ARE PICKED UP BY THE VEHICLE OWNER OR LEAN HOLDERS, WHICH IS USUALLY WITHIN ONE OR TWO WEEKS.
>> HOW MANY CARS DO YOU USUALLY HAVE IN YOUR LOT ALL THE TIME?
>> IT ALL DEPENDS ON ANYWHERE.
AN AVERAGE ANYWHERE FROM 60, SOMETIMES EVEN 100 CARS.
>> YOU HAVE 60-100 CARS ON THAT LOT?
>> NICE. THEN EVERY TWO WEEKS OR SO, YOU'RE ROTATING 60-100 CARS?
>> SO THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE CAME WHERE CARS ARE PILING UP, BECAUSE WE CAN'T SOLVE THEM.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEM, SO CARS PILE UP.
>> THEN THE JUSTIFICATION LETTER THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO US IS NOT ACCURATE?
>> I'M SORRY. IS THIS THE NEW LETTER?
>> AUGUST 23, 2027, IT'S THE ONLY ONE I HAVE.
>> OKAY. THERE WAS ANOTHER LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT.
>> OKAY. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I HAVE, THAT'S WHY I HAVE CONFLICT WITH YOU ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T REALLY EVEN NEED THAT STILL IN DISCUSSION.
>> YEAH, THAT LETTER WAS UPDATED WITH STUFF.
>> NO, THIS IS FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
>> YOU HAVE A COPY, YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY.
>> THE ONE THAT WE HAVE WAS JUST THE ASSETS TO MAKE A JUSTIFICATION LETTER FOR CONDITION NUMBER 2 WAS ALL THEY ASKED US FOR [INAUDIBLE] OVER THE FLORIDA STATUE THAT SOME OF THESE WOULD NOT ACTUALLY PERTAIN TO US.
>> WHICH IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I HAVE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A GUARANTEE ON SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN VOTED ON, OR APPROVED, OR DETERMINED FOR WHEN WE CAN'T SAY.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEN I DON'T LIKE BEING PIGEONHOLED.
I DON'T LIKE BEING PUT INTO A CORNER TO HAVE US HAVE TO AGREE TO SOMETHING, BECAUSE THERE'S BELIEF OR THERE'S NO MEANINGS OF THE MIND ON THIS THING.
THERE'S NO ABILITY FOR US TO SAY YES AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE HAVE A GREAT BUSINESS OWNER HERE AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING YOU IN THE POSITION, BECAUSE WE TOLD YOU WE MAY OR NOT.
IT'S A LITTLE CAR BEFORE THE HORSE RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW I'M A LITTLE BIT ON TIME, I'M GOING TO TAKE MY 2 MINUTES AND DO IT ALL NOW.
BUT I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN ON NUMBER 5 ON THE STORING OF JUNK REPAIRS TOWING BUSINESS INCLUDES THE TOWING OF THESE TYPE OF VEHICLES.
THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'LL BE OFF YOUR LOT IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
DO YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A RECORD COMPANY THAT YOU THEN MOVE YOUR PROPERTY THERE?
>> IS IT THE JUNK CARS YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT?
>> THE STORAGE OF JUNK AND IRREPARABLE CARS.
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YOU SAID THAT WHEN YOU HAVE CAR ACCIDENTS THAT YOU TOW THERE.>> CAR ACCIDENTS IF THEY'RE PICKED UP NORMALLY HOW IT WORKS, YOU HAVE 35 DAYS.
35 DAYS IF THESE CARS ARE NOT PICKED UP, THEY ARE SENT TO RECYCLERS.
THAT IS HOW IT ALWAYS WORKS, IT'S 35 DAYS FOR OLDER CARS, 50 DAYS FOR NEWER CARS.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE ALWAYS HANDED DOWN TO US.
>> THAT'S UP BY STATUTE THAT THE JUNK CARS IN AN ACCIDENT HAS TO GO THAT WAY AND THEY COME OFF YOUR LOT IN 35 DAYS TO 50 DAYS.
>> 35 TO 50 DAYS DEPENDING ON THE YEAR OF THE VEHICLE.
THAT'S WHAT WAS HEADED TOWARDS EVEN BY THE COUNTY, SO THAT'S WHAT WE GET.
>> MY CONCERN IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT STORING THESE JUNK VEHICLES ON YOUR LOT.
>> NO, BECAUSE YOU REALLY WOULDN'T BE MAKING ANY MONEY IF YOU'RE DOING THAT.
>> AS IT'S QUITE CLEAR, I HAVE TROUBLE WITH NUMBER 6 AND WE'RE MOVING NUMBER 6.
I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE REST OF IT, BUT I HAVE TROUBLE WITH NUMBER 6 IN THE TIME FRAME.
AGAIN, IT'S THE TIME FRAME AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY TO YOU, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT IT UNDERLIE FOR THAT MUCH LONGER, BUT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK YOU TO MAKE IT 45 TO 65 DAYS, OR 70 DAYS AND GIVE THE PERSON WHO HAS THE PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, WHO WAS ON YOUR LOT VERSUS IT WINDS UP BEING IN A BUSINESS AND SOLD SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AS LONG AS I ALSO UNDERSTAND IT'S QUITE CLEAR, YOU'RE NOT TELLING OTHER PEOPLE BUYING CARS AND TOWING IT TO YOUR LOT.
>> IF, FOR EXAMPLE, MY CAR IS CRASHED IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC, THE TOW COMPANY WHO PICKS UP FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC NOW TAKES THAT VEHICLE TO ANOTHER CITY.
THAT 35 DAYS IS STILL THERE IN 50 DAYS AND THEIR CAR WILL BE SOLD AT AUCTION.
>> I CAN ONLY DO WITH WHAT'S IN MY OWN CITY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL ABOUT WHAT'S IN ANOTHER CITY AND MAYBE THE CITY OF TAMARAC WOULD BE THE FIRST CITY TO ACTUALLY LIGHT IT UP FOR THE REST OF THE CITIES TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT HAVE THEIR CARS SOLD SO QUICKLY, BECAUSE WHILE IT MAY SEEM A LONG TIME FOR YOU AND I UNDERSTAND IT.
WHEN A PERSON IS TRYING TO GET THE MONEY THAT THEY NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER ON A CAR THAT THEY DESPERATELY NEED SO THEY CAN GET TO WORK TO GET PAID TO DO ALL THAT KIND OF THING, IT'S A REALLY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
>> THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERN IS, AGAIN WHETHER OTHER CITIES WANT TO FOLLOW OUR LEAD, THAT'LL BE NICE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MS. CALLOWAY.
>> STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OF THE REMOVAL OF THESE CONDITIONS.
>> YES. THE ONES THAT ARE STRICKEN THROUGH, YES.
>> OKAY. I'LL ASK YOU ABOUT ALL OF THEM, BUT I'LL START WITH NUMBER 6.
THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE THERE NOW, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE STRICKEN.
NUMBER 6 SAYS, AS WRITTEN, "THE AUCTIONING OF VEHICLES AND OTHER TYPES OF TRANSPORT FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED." IF WE GO AHEAD WITH ALL THE OTHER ONES, BUT DO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH NUMBER 6, WE WOULD BE, ACCORDING TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM OR ACCORDING TO LAW, BE RUNNING AFOUL OF THE LAW, BECAUSE THE LAW PREMISE US. IS THAT THE ONE?
>> BASED ON THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION, YES, WE ARE PREEMPTED.
IT WOULD PRECLUDE THE APPLICANT FROM DOING A PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THEIR BUSINESS, CONTRARY TO STATE LAW WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO AUCTION.
IT JUST NOT DEAL WITH THE TIMELINE, THIS DEALS WITH THEIR ABILITY TO AUCTION THE VEHICLES, PERIOD.
>> FROM PREVIOUS COMMENTARY, CITY ATTORNEY, YOU OPINED THAT IF WE WOULD KEEP NUMBER 6 THEORETICALLY AND THAT WOULD OPEN US UP TO MITIGATION PERHAPS.
>> WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING NUMBER 6 FROM OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE DATES FROM 35 AND 50 DAYS.
IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP NUMBER 6, IT'S STILL A PREEMPTION ISSUE, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO IT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPAND OUR QUESTION TO THE AGO TO INCLUDE MORE THAN THE 35 OR 50 DAYS, BECAUSE YOU GO INTO THE HEART OF THE ISSUE, WHICH IS WHETHER THEY CAN AUCTION VEHICLES AT ALL.
I DIDN'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMISSION WAS TRYING TO DO, BUT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO DO THAT, THEN YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S IN STATE STATUTES.
>> OKAY. NO CITY WOULD EVER WANT TO DO ANYTHING CONTRARY TO STATE STATUTE?
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>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, I THINK CITIES DO WANT TO DO THINGS CONTRARY TO STATE STATUTE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN.
>> AND I THINK YOU'D HAVE A PROBLEM.
>> OKAY. LIKE YOU, I THINK I'LL GO TO UF ONE DAY TO GET YOUR SWAG.
MS. CALLOWAY, TELL US ABOUT THESE CONDITIONS AS WRITTEN AND WHAT YOUR OPINIONS ARE AS TO WHY YOU THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED.
>> STAFF HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLICANT ON CONDITION 1, SINCE THE ISSUANCE OF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION APPROVAL, WHICH OCCURRED ON JANUARY 25TH.
THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE RECEIVED THE SAFETY PERMIT AND A BUSINESS DOCRACY JUST BEEN ISSUED, SO THAT CONDITION IS NOT NEEDED.
NUMBER 2, AS IT RELATES TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CVS WALL, THE APPLICANT HAS SPOKEN TO INABILITY TO CONSTRUCT THAT WALL, AND THERE'S A REAL ISSUE RELATIVE TO THE SURVEY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER, AND THE APPLICANT, THERE IS A CONFLICT, WE HAVE INFORMED THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNER, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT THAT'S A CIVIL ISSUE, BUT YES, THE EACH OF THE SURVEY IS SHOWING SOME ENCROACHMENT ON EACH OTHER'S PROPERTY.
I THINK THERE IS A REAL PROBLEM WITH CONSTRUCTING THE WALL AND SO STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ELIMINATION OF THAT CONDITION, AS IT RELATES TO CONDITION NUMBER 4, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO IT, WE'RE KEEPING IT, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE JUST MAKING AN AMENDMENT IN THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, SO IT CAN BE A BIT CLEARER.
NUMBER 5 IS BEING STRICKEN, THE TOWING BUSINESS INCLUDES A TOWING OF THESE TYPE OF VEHICLES, ONCE AGAIN IT SPEAKS TO THE NATURE OF THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS, THE ABILITY TO TOW VEHICLES THAT MIGHT BE IRREPARABLE OR PROBABLY BEEN IN A CAR ACCIDENT UNTIL STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF THE REMOVAL OF THAT CONDITION.
LASTLY, THE FINAL CONDITION THAT SPEAKS TO THE APPLICANT'S ABILITY TO AUCTION VEHICLES, IT'S STAFF POSITION THAT THIS CONDITION WHAT'S CONTRARY TO STATE LAW AND PRECLUDES THE APPLICANT FROM DOING A PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THEIR BUSINESS WHICH IS AUCTION IN VEHICLES AND SO STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF REMOVING THAT CONDITION AS WELL.
>> OKAY. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT MAKES US MORE BUSINESS-FRIENDLY, MAKES THE CITY APPROACHABLE, AND CERTAINLY, IT PROVIDES FOR SMOOTH OPERATION OF A BUSINESS THAT IS IN OUR CITY.
THAT IS THE MESSAGE THAT WE'VE ALWAYS SENT TO ANY BUSINESS OWNER, THAT TAMARAC IS WELCOMING, TAMARAC WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE DO WHAT IS NECESSARY THAT YOU SURVIVE, AND YOU THRIVE, AND YOU SUCCEED.
WITH THAT SAID, I THANK STAFF FOR GOING THROUGH THIS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS CLEARLY.
I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
DAVEIN THANK YOU FOR COMING BY AND MAKING A PRESENTATION THAT AGAIN, IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.
YOU SHOULD PROBABLY GO TO UF AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
IN REFERENCE TO NUMBER SIX, SO WHEN WAS THE STATE LAW PASSED?
>> I'M LOOKING HERE AT THE DATE OF THE HISTORY.
>> WAS IT PASSED PRIOR TO JANUARY?
>> YES, THE LAST AMENDMENT WAS IN 2020, SO YES.
>> WHY DID WE ADD NUMBER SIX, SINCE IT'S STATE LAW, WHY WASN'T THAT AN ISSUE BACK THEN?
>> TO BE QUITE HONEST, COMMISSIONER, WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE LAW GOVERN THIS ISSUE.
WE HAVE HAD ONLY ONE TOW COMPANY IN THE CITY AND WE APPLY THE SAME CONDITIONS WE DID TO THAT TOW COMPANY TO THIS APPLICATION.
>> WE'VE STIFLED HIM FOR FIVE MONTHS FROM SELLING THE CARS BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING BACK THEN WE SAID HE COULDN'T AUCTION AT ALL, BUT WE'RE SAYING NOW THAT STATE LAW PREEMPTS THAT PARTICULAR RESTRICTION.
>> YEAH, AND THE EXISTING TOW COMPANY IS AUCTIONING.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE APPLICANT STOPPED AUCTIONING BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT UNDER STATE LAW.
>> HE'S ALLOWED TO AUCTION UNDER STATE LAW, HE HAS THAT RIGHT?
>> IF WE APPROVE NUMBER SIX TODAY AND SAY WE CHANGED IT FROM 35 TO 45, WHEN DOES THE CLOCK START RUNNING FOR SOMEONE?
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HOW WOULD WE DEAL WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT? FOR INSTANCE, HYPOTHETICALLY IT COMES BACK THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE DAYS, THAT WE CAN MOVE IT FROM 35 TO 45 IF SOMEONE GETS THEIR CAR UNTIL TOMORROW, WHEN DOES THE CLOCK START RUNNING FOR THAT PERSON?>> WITH MOST LEGISLATION, YOU HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE, SO IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE UPON ADOPTION ON SECOND READING.
THEN THE TIME THE CLOCK WOULD START FROM ANY TOW THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THAT ORDINANCE.
>> ONCE IT'S ADOPTED, THAT'S WHEN IT STARTS HAPPENING.
>> WHEN IT DOES WHEN IT'S EFFECTIVE, YES.
>> THAT'S WHEN IT WAS EFFECTIVE. IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY, IF WE DECIDE TO KEEP IT OR CHANGE IT ONCE AT THE SECOND READING, THAT'S WHEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT.
>> YES. THAT'S WHEN IT WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE.
>> CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU SAY SOMETHING?
I APOLOGIZE. IT WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE UPON APPROVAL.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. MS. MAXINE, ON FIRST READING, CO2 533, HOW DOES IT CONFLICT LINE 6 WITH OUR FIRST READING ORDINANCE, DOES IT HAVE ANY CONFLICTS?
>> I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A CONFLICT, I THINK IT CLARIFIES AND SUPPORTS THE ITEM AS IT IS ON FIRST READING, WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY'S DEFINITION OF TOWING INCLUDES THE ABILITY TO AUCTION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH STATE STATUTE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.
I THINK WHAT IS OUTSTANDING IS THE TIMELINE RELATIVE TO HOW LONG THE TOW COMPANY CAN KEEP THAT VEHICLE BEFORE IT'S AUCTIONED, I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS BEEN ASKED TO GET AN OIG OPINION ON.
>> THE OIG OFFICE SAYS THAT WE CAN INCREASE IT.
THAT'S JUST A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
>> WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH A BROADER DEFINITION, IT WOULD BE A COMPLETE CHANGE OF THE ORDINANCE.
>> MS. PAM, IF YOU CAN REFRAIN FROM USING THE WORD, I THINK, THAT'LL MAKE ME FEEL A LOT BETTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> YES. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THANK YOU TO D&G TOWING AND RECOVERY, BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU COME VERY ARTICULATE, UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING WE NEED IS HERE, AND YOU TRULY ARE PARTNER TO THE CITY BECAUSE YOU COME AND ASK PERMISSION, BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE ARE OTHER TOWING COMPANY THAT HAVE THIS THAT WE DO NOTHING ABOUT, AND THEY DON'T FOLLOW OUR STIPULATION THAT WE PUT OUT NOW.
FOR THE ONE THAT'S COMING, WE'RE BEATING THEM UP, THAT'S HOW I SEE IT, AS SIMPLE AS THAT AS SOMEBODY REASONABLE.
IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM, WE MIGHT NEED TO GO ADDRESS THE OTHER TOWING COMPANY IN TAMARAC.
THAT'S DOING SOMETHING THAT APPARENTLY WE SAID YOU CANNOT DO, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE COME TO THE COMMISSIONER BEFORE YOU CHANGED THE RULES.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. ATTORNEY, YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS WOULD BE COMMENSURATE ON SECOND READING.
THAT IF WE PASS THIS, IT WOULD BE COMMENSURATE ON SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED ON FIRST MEETING.
>> LET ME CLARIFY, YOU CAN PASS THIS SPECIAL EXCEPTION TODAY BECAUSE THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION ONLY SAYS THAT THE TOWING COMPANIES ARE ALLOWED TO AUCTION VEHICLES.
THAT'S A VERY GENERAL STATEMENT.
IF WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, IF WE TRY TO CHANGE THE STATUTE BY REQUIRING MORE TIME THAN THAT 35 DAYS, THAT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH THIS SECTION OF THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
IT WOULD MEAN THAT ALL THE TOWING COMPANIES WOULD NOW HAVE TO FALL UNDER THE CITY'S ORDINANCE REQUIRING THEM TO GIVE MORE NOTICE BEFORE THEY AUCTION OFF CARS.
BUT LET ME KNOW IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE COMMISSION IS ASKING TO STOP THE APPLICANT FROM AUCTIONING HIS VEHICLES IN TOTAL, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS GIVE MORE NOTICE ON THAT.
IF THAT IS ALL YOU'RE SAYING, THEN NUMBER 6 IS FINE.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO FURTHER CHANGE THE STATUTE, AND SAY THE COMPANY CAN ONLY TOW VEHICLES AS LONG AS THEY DON'T AUCTION THEM,
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THAT'S ANOTHER WHOLE ISSUE, AND YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE THE ORDINANCE THAT WE MAY BE CONSIDERING A LITTLE MORE BROAD.>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, THAT CLARIFICATION, OF COURSE, MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE.
WE'RE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, PASSING THIS AS IS.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MS. CALLOWAY, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
BY THE WAY, A WISE ATTORNEY IN SAM GOREN ONCE TOLD ME THAT HIS OPINIONS ARE JUST HIS THOUGHTS, AND THAT'S WHY HE WENT TO LAW SCHOOL.
HE, ACTUALLY, IN LAW SCHOOL DEBATES, SO EVERY LAWYER HAS AN OPINION.
THAT IS WHAT OPINING MEANS THINKING.
I THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHTS, ATTORNEY.
YOU JUST GOT TO TEACH THE ELEMENTARY KIDS, THANK YOU SO MUCH, THAT ARE LISTENING IN A VIRTUAL WORLD.
>> MADAM MAYOR, HE HAD HIS TWO MINUTES.
>> AGAIN, MS. PAM, I WOULD FEEL A LOT BETTER IF ANY OF MY ATTORNEYS THAT REPRESENT ME DON'T USE THE WORD, I THINK.
>> POINT OF ORDER MADAM MAYOR.
>> BEFORE HE'S SAID A COMMENT.
>> AGAIN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I THINK SOMETHING HAPPENS WHEN WE GET PAST 12 O'CLOCK, WHICH WE'RE NOW 12:47.
IF WE'RE HUNGRY, THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND YOU-ALL CAN GET A SNICKERS BAR, [LAUGHTER] WHATEVER YOU NEED.
BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MAY I REMIND YOU, YOU TALK ABOUT YOURSELF, YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT OTHERS BECAUSE REALLY WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GO.
AT THIS TIME, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS?
>> THANK YOU MOTION PASSES 4-1.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO APPRECIATE YOU'RE HERE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT STEPS.
ANYBODY NEED A BREAK OR ARE WE GOOD TO GO? WE'RE GOOD? WE'RE NOW ON OTHER,
[10.a Designation of voting delegate for the Florida League of Cities. Requested by City Clerk Kimberly Dillon]
10A DESIGNATION OF VOTING DELEGATE FOR THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.CITY CLERK, PLEASE SUMMARIZE THE ITEM.
>> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSION MEMBERS, VICE MAYOR.
THIS ITEM IS A ROUTINE ITEM WHERE ON A YEARLY BASIS, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ASK US FOR THIS BODY TO SELECT AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE THE VOTING DELEGATE DURING THE BUSINESS MEETING THIS YEAR.
THAT MEETING WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 12TH.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS FROM THE BODY FOR THE VOTING DELEGATE THAT STICKS.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THIS COMMISSION WHO IS GOING UP WILL BE THERE FOR THE FULL-TIME?
>> I WILL BE THERE FOR THE FULL-TIME.
>> MADAM MAYOR, I'LL BE THERE FOR THE FULL-TIME AND I NOMINATE MYSELF.
>> I WAS JUST GOING BY THE LIKES OF MY BOARD, BUT I'VE GOT COMMISSIONER DANIEL IS GOING TO BE THERE. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> I'M SCHEDULED TO BE THERE, I HAVEN'T CONFIRMED WITH BROWSERS YET, BUT MOST LIKELY I'LL BE THERE.
>> WE'VE GOT A COMMISSION THAT'S GOING, I'M ONLY GOING UP TO TAKE CARE OF THE PET PANTRY AWARD ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WHICH I ALSO APPRECIATE AND SUPPORT.
THEN I WILL NOT BE THERE FOR THE REST OF IT, DUE TO OBLIGATIONS I HAVE DESPITE IT BEING BREAK.
>> OKAY. I'VE GOT COMMISSIONER [OVERLAPPING] VILLALOBOS.
LET ME JUST GET WHO WANTS TO BE THE VOTING MEMBER? I'VE GOT THE VICE MAYOR.
>> WHO KNOWS? THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO RECOMMEND HIM AS WELL.
>> YOU'RE NOMINATING VILLALOBOS OR WRIGHT.
>> COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, DO YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION?
>> YOU'RE GOING AND YOU WANT TO NOMINATE YOURSELF?
>> NO, I'M SAYING, YOU'RE GOING AND YOU WANT TO BE A VOTING GOVERNMENT?
>> WELL, I'M GOING AND I WAS NOMINATED BY COMMISSIONER DANIELS.
>> HE THINKS HE'S GOING BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONFIRMED.
>> [OVERLAPPING]THERE'S NO UNNECESSARY COMMENTS.
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VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT HAS SAID THAT HE WANTS TO GO.HE WILL BE FINISHING OUT WHATEVER HE NEEDS TO DO WITH ROSS AFTER THE MEETING, AND HE IS BEING NOMINATED BY COMMISSIONER DANIEL TO BE THE DEVOTING DELEGATE.
IT THERE'S ANY ISSUE AND HE'S THE ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY APPOINTED, I'M SURE WE'LL DEAL WITH IT BEFOREHAND BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE JULY 30TH WHERE THIS HAS TO ACTUALLY GO UP TO FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.
BUT, HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
COMMISSIONER RYAN HAS SAID THAT HE WISHES TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.
>> NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THAT CLEAR, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, YOU WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT?
THIS WOULD NOW BE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BOARDS HAVE COME UP BEFORE THIS COMMISSION, EXCUSE ME.
>> COMMISSIONER DANIEL, COME ON.
>> IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU CAN SPEAK BEFORE I DO.
>> COMMISSIONER DANIEL, PLEASE.
>> ACTUALLY SPEAK FOR THE RECORD.
>> NO. THAT COMMENTARY IS DISRUPTED.
IT WAS THE WORST STAGE WITH FOREVER IN THE WORLD.
WELL, WE KEEP OUR COMMENTARY ABOUT PEOPLE'S COMMENTS TO THEMSELVES, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. UNLESS IT WAS NOT FOR COMMISSIONER WRIGHT FOR THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, I WOULD STILL BE DENIED BY THE THREE SAME COMMISSIONERS TO KEEP DENYING ME FROM JOINING ANY BOARD.
I FIND THAT IRRESPONSIBLE, THERE'S NO EQUALITY.
WE TALK ABOUT BEING EQUITABLE, AND IT CONTINUES TO BE THE SAME SHENANIGANS.
I THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT VICE MAYOR KEEPS DOING THAT, COMMISSIONER DANIEL KEEPS DOING THAT, AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT KEEPS DOING THAT.
ALL THREE PARTIES CONTINUED TO BLOCK ME FROM JOINING ANY BOARD THAT WE HAVE BEEN PART OF, AND I HAVE YET TO BE PART OF AND I FIND THAT VERY DESPICABLE.
[OVERLAPPING] WITH THAT, I TAKE MY NOMINATION.
>> CITY CLERK, I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD DO THIS IN TIME FOR THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE WE HAVE TIME.
CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH A ROTATING LIST OF THE DISTRICTS, HOW MANY TIMES SOMEBODY HAS BEEN OUT THERE AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN, WHETHER IT'S THE ONE IN ORLANDO.
BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT FROM HEREIN, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION.
BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS IS CORRECT.
HE'S BEEN ON THE BOARD THE LONGEST AND NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY FROM WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR.
HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH IT AND DISCUSS IT IN A BUSINESS FRAME MIND.
IT'S NOT A MOTION BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO A MOTION BECAUSE IT'S INTENT.
BUT, I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL WE GET FURTHER INFORMATION ON THE BACKGROUND OF THIS ITEM FROM PAST YEARS OF VOTING. COMMISSIONER RYAN.
>> MADAM MAYOR, THAT I'M THE ONE THAT GIVES UP MY HOUSING COMMITTEE FOR COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, SO YOU CAN YOU CAN'T BE ACCUSING ME HIM OF STIFLING HIM.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I'M HONORED TO HAVE THE NOMINATION FROM DR. DANIEL.
IT SHOWS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE CONFIDENCE IN ME JUST TO GO, I HAD CONFIDENCE IN YOU AND GIVING YOU THAT HOUSING AUTHORITY POSITION SO YOU CAN SIT AT WORK TRYING TO STIFLE YOU WHILE ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN A CONSENSUS BILL AND TRY TO BE A TEAM PLAYER.
IF ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES NOMINATE ME, I HUMBLY ACCEPT THAT NOMINATION.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT AIR BEING CLEARED AT THE SAME TOKEN UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR US.
>> MAYOR, I DON'T THINK THAT HAVING AMBITION TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR SERVE AT AN EVENT IS BLOCKING SOMEONE.
I THINK THAT HAVING THE AMBITION TO NOMINATE YOURSELF FOR THE COURAGE TO NOMINATE YOURSELF IS A GOOD THING.
COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS OBVIOUSLY HAD THAT COURAGE TODAY TO NOMINATE HIMSELF, AND I HAVE THAT COURAGE TO NOMINATE MYSELF AS WELL.
THAT IS NOT BLOCKING ANYONE FROM A BOARD.
EVERY TIME I SEE SOMEONE ON A BOARD, I SEE THEIR COLLEAGUES IN THEM.
MEANING THAT IF YOU ARE SERVING ON THE BOARD, IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE COLLEGIATE.
IT SHOWS IT TO YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE FAITH IN YOU.
IT SHOWS THAT YOU HAVE THE AMBITION ENOUGH TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD.
IT IS A GREAT FEAT TO DO THAT.
I'VE SERVED FOR THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES UP BEFORE.
YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, SO TO SPEAK,
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AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE FRIENDS TO ACTUALLY TELL YOU WHAT TO DO.I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE, BUT OBVIOUSLY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT WANTS TO SERVE, SO I'LL RECENT MY NOMINATION FOR MYSELF AND ALLOWING FOR THE FIRST TIME TO DO SO. THANK YOU.
>> I'D APPRECIATE IT IF I HAVE A VOTE, I CAN FREELY VOTE AS I FEEL IS THE BEST OF ALL THAT REPRESENTS ME. THANK YOU.
>> COMMISSIONER BOLTON. VICE MAYOR BOLTON.
>> IN THE SPIRIT OF TEAMWORK, IF COMMISSIONER WRIGHT DOES NOT GO UP BECAUSE AS FAR AS I KNOW, I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS REGISTERED TO ACTUALLY ATTEND.
[OVERLAPPING] GIVE GIVE ME A MOMENT.
IN THE EVENT THAT COMMISSIONER WRIGHT DOES NOT GO TO THE EVENT, SOMETHING HAPPENS, MAYBE HE'S STRUCK BY LIGHTNING.
>> [OVERLAPPING] ALSO BEING RUN OVER BY CARS, SOME PEOPLE NOT BE STRUCK BY LIGHTNING.
>> BUT IN THE EVENT THAT HE IS NOT GOING, THEN I WOULD NOMINATE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS AS A BACKUP.
>> I ALREADY REMOVED MY NOMINATION.
IF YOU'RE PAYING ATTENTION, YOU WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
>> THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO BE NICE.
>> I ALREADY REMOVED MY NOMINATION.
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT?
>> IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BUT LET HIM FINISH, ACTUALLY.
HONESTLY, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT YOU'VE REMOVED VIA NOMINATION OR I WOULD HAVE JUST CLOSED THIS ALREADY.
MY APOLOGIES. I DIDN'T CATCH THAT YOU DID.
I DIDN'T HEAR YOU WELL. FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, PLEASE.
>> IF COMMISSIONER WRIGHT DOES NOT GO, I'M DEFINITELY GOING SO I WILL SERVE IN HIS PLACE.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THAT IN CASE COMMISSIONER WRIGHT DOES NOT ATTEND THAT I WILL SERVE AS THE DELEGATE.
>> THAT'S NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME.
>> I'M ASKING [OVERLAPPING] FOR CONSENSUS FOR THAT.
>> EXCUSE ME, I'M TRYING TO BE NICE.
>> PLEASE FINISH YOUR SENTENCE.
>> IF COMMISSIONER WRIGHT IS NOT CONFIRMED TO GO, THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE CONFIRMED TO GO, AS FAR AS I KNOW IS MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE TO COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS TO APPEASE HIM WITH TEAMWORK, TO LET HIM SERVE IN CASE COMMISSIONER WRIGHT DOES NOT GO BECAUSE OF WHATEVER SCHEDULING CONFLICTS OR HE'S STRICKEN BY LIGHTENING.
BUT NOW I'M ASKING FOR CONSENSUS TO HAVE ME SERVE IF HE'S NOT GOING.
>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS NOT A BOARD.
WE VOTE BASED ON WHAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC RULES AND REGULATIONS AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE'VE AGREED UPON AS STATUTORY OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT IT AS BEING SUPPORTED BY THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES.
THIS IS NOT SOME UNIVERSALLY MAGNIFICENT, SORRY, FLORIDA LEGAL SETTINGS. TIME TO GO TO.
YOU SIT IN A FROZEN ROOM, YOU LISTEN TO A BUNCH OF STUFF AND YOU VOTE YES, YOU VOTE NO, YOU VOTE YES, YOU VOTE NO, HALF THE STUFF IS ALREADY APPROVED BEFORE YOU GET THERE.
WE ALREADY HAVE THREE TO VOTE FOR COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT IS GOING TO MAKE HIS ARRANGEMENTS.
IF HE SHOULD NOT MAKE HIS ARRANGEMENT.
>> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, MAYOR.
THE ISSUE HAS BEEN THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO HAVE ROSS FIND A CHEAPER HOTEL.
I'M REGISTERED TO BE THE TODAY EVENT.
I'M GOING TO BE GOING, AND GOD FORBID, I'M NOT STRUCK BY LIGHTNING.
>> IF YOU'RE STRUCK BY LIGHTNING, WE KNOW WHO TO GET YOU FOR MURDER AND WE'LL GET HIM ARRESTED BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY.
>> I WILL ASK PROPHET FIRE TO REBUKE THAT SAYING.
I KNOW HE HAS PROPHETIC POWERS, SO I REBUKE THAT I'M NOT STRUCK BY LIGHTNING.
>> ANYWAY, THE POINT BEING IF BY CHANCE YOU'RE NOT GOING, WE DON'T DO DELEGATES, WE DON'T DO SECOND ALTERNATIVE. IT'S NOT WHAT IS ASKED FOR.
IT IS NOT REQUIRED, IT IS NOT AUTHORIZED.
THEREFORE, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, YOU'RE GOING, YOU'RE STUCK.
YOU HAVE TO BE THERE. THAT'S IT.
WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO THE NEXT ITEM.
>> MAYOR GOMEZ, BEFORE WE MOVE ALONG, YOU ASK THAT A RESEARCH IS DONE ON ALL THE BOARDS OR JUST [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO. WHEN IT COMES TO THIS VOTING STUFF, WHETHER IT'S PRIOR LEGACIES, FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES OR ANYTHING OF THE LIGHT AND ACTUALLY, YES,
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WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING ROTATING BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE ARE REPRESENTING OUR CITY SOMEWHERE ELSE, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD POLICY TO HAVE IN OUR BACKUP AS THIS COMMISSION IS CLEARLY SHOWN THAT WE NEED TO SEE THE HISTORY.PLEASE, THAT IS JUST MY REQUEST.
THAT'S A POLICY ITEM THROUGH ADMINISTRATION, IS ACTUALLY A PROCEDURAL ITEM THROUGH ADMINISTRATION, NOT A BOARD DECISION, NOT SOMETHING TO BE VOTED UPON.
>> WE DIDN'T GIVE CONSENSUS FOR THAT JUST SO YOU'RE CLEAR.
>> YOU DON'T NEED CONSENSUS FOR THAT.
>> WE DON'T NEED CONSENSUS FOR THAT, SO ASK FOR THAT IN A WORKSHOP, IN AN EMAIL.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK THAT IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
>> ANYWAY AGAIN, WHEELS COMING OFF THE CAR AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE ALL GOING TO WIND UP IN DNG TELLING DISCUSSION 10B.
[10.b Discussion regarding potential changes in traffic calming requirements for communities to add speed bumps/humps or other possible traffic calming measures. Requested by Mayor Michelle J. Gomez]
REGARDING POTENTIAL CHANGES IN TRAFFIC, COMMON REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMUNITIES TO ADD SPEED, HUMPS, BUMPS OR OTHER POSSIBLE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES.THIS IS AN ITEM THAT I'M REQUESTING TO HAVE REVIEWED BY THIS COMMISSION IF THERE'S CONSENSUS GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE ALL GO TO OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS, WE ALL HEAR ABOUT THE SPEEDING, WE ALL HEAR ABOUT THE CUT THROUGH.
WE ALL HEAR ABOUT ALL THESE GOOD THINGS AND IT IS FRUSTRATING BECAUSE OUR RESIDENTS CAN'T GET TO THE 500 CARS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE POLICY THAT WE'VE CREATED.
IT WAS AT 750 AT ONE POINT, THEN IT WENT DOWN TO 500 AND THEN IT'S GOT TO BE SIX MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT AND HAS GOT TO BE IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
QUITE HONESTLY, THE WAY I READ THESE RULES, THIS IS TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES SHALL NOT BE INSTALLED ON ANY STREET WITH A CURRENT COUNT OF LESS THAN 500 VEHICLES PER DAY.
THE CITY MAY REQUEST A TRAFFIC COUNT FROM BROWARD COUNTY TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DIVISION TO DETERMINE CURRENT LEVEL OF TRAFFIC ON ROADWAY.
IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE TO USE OUR PEOPLE.
WHY DO WE USE OUR PEOPLE? WE THINK THAT THERE'S A TRAFFIC ISSUE ON THIS ROAD.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC.
IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, IT'S G CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC OR SPEEDING PROBLEM CAN BE IDENTIFIED, ESPECIALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROJECTS OF FUTURE IMPACTS, IN ACCORDANCE TO LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE AREA.
WE ALL KNOW WE DRIVE THE CITY THAT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST EASIER TO GO DOWN BROOKE WOOD OR TO GO DOWN 57, WHICH IS THE OLD COMMERCIAL OR TO USE ANY OTHER WESTWOOD DRIVE OR SOME OTHER AREA THAT COULD CREATE TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK ON MCNABB.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK ON SOUTH GATE.
WE DON'T WANNA BE STUCK ON COMMERCIAL.
WE NEED TO GET GOING WHERE IT NEEDS TO GET GOING.
OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING.
MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE CAN TAKE AND IT SAYS WE CAN DO AN ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE PURPOSE OF INSTALLING TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES.
WE CAN DO A WAITING LIST IF NEED BE.
WE CAN DO ASSOCIATION FUNDING.
BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO WORK ON THE TRAFFIC COMMON REQUESTS AND PROCEDURES PROCESS, WHICH IS ON PAGE 5 OF THE BACKUP, AND FIVE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUESTS AND PROCEDURES.
SO MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST TAKE IT TO WHERE WE HAVE AT LEAST 85% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR MAYBE 90% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WANT SOME TRAFFIC CALMING.
IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ENGINEERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY, IT'S ALSO BEEN SAID THAT CERTAIN OTHER ITEMS WORK BETTER THAN SPEED BUMPS.
THERE ARE LISTED ACTUALLY, THEY ARE ENUMERATED IN OUR POLICY WHERE WE CAN DO SOME DEFLECTING PATHS, NARROWING THE STREETS, DIVERTING ROADS, CHANGES TO THE SURFACE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE HAVING IT LIKE A ROLLER COASTER ON SOME AREAS OF BAILEY ROW, WHICH IS JUST AN ACCIDENT BY THE COUNTY WHEN WE REPAY THAT THING, WHICH IS A BUMP, BUMP, BUMP, BUMP AND IT'S BEING FIXED.
BUT THERE COULD BE CERTAIN OTHER THINGS DONE THAN JUST SIMPLE BUMPS.
BUT WE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITIES TO HELP THEM WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE HAVING VERSUS JUST SAYING, YOU'RE NOT MEETING THESE REALLY UNREALISTIC NUMBERS IN OUR CODE THAT WERE PUT IN FOR MAYBE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMUNITIES.
CITY MAY USE OTHER SPECIFIC FACTORS.
ON OTHER, WE CAN USE OTHER SPECIFIC FACTORS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A ROADWAY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR TRAFFIC CALMING.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH D, I'M TRYING TO GO FAST ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THE TIME.
IF I'M MISSING CERTAIN THINGS, I DO APOLOGIZE.
I'M TRYING TO GET THE GIST OF IT OUT THERE THAT WE CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS.
WE HAVE WHERE IF THINGS CAN'T BE REAL LOOKED AT FOR OVER TWO YEARS AND I THINK THAT'S NOT RIGHT WHEN SOMETIMES IT JUST MISS A FEW SIGNATURES, REMEDIAL ACTION IS BASICALLY SAYING WE SHOULD INCREASE LAW ENFORCEMENT ON RANDOM BASIS WHEN THEY'RE SPEEDING ON THE PROPERTY IF WE JUST DON'T MAKE THAT CUT FOR THE NUMBER OF CARS WE NEED.
YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE ALSO TELLING OUR CHART, WE NEED MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT YET WE WANT TO HAVE THEM OUT THERE FOR BEING TRAFFIC ALL THE TIME.
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OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE DRIVING THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.WE HAVE THINGS WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN TWO MILES OF SCHOOLS, WHICH IS ANOTHER THING COMING NEXT.
[NOISE] I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE ONE OF OUR ROLES OR ADD IN ONE OF OUR RULES THAT WE CAN HAVE 85% OR 90% OF EFFECTIVE PROPERTY OWNERS PUT IN, MAKE A REQUEST TO THE CITY FOR TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, THEY WOULD ALL HAVE TO SIGN THE PETITION.
THE CITY CAN CONTINUE DOING WHAT IT SAYS BY SAYING, YOU ARE THE AFFECTED AREA.
YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO RESPOND TO THIS.
SO IT'S NOT SOMEBODY FROM PLUMBER BAY, PALM HARBOR GIVING A SIGNING SOMETHING THAT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO VALUE LAKES, SHOULD KEEP IT IN WITHIN THE RULES BUT MAKE IT THAT THEN WE COULD PUT IN TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES.
IF YOU GET THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES, THE COMMUNITY WILL AGREE TO A 1% BUY IN, A 5% BUYING SOMETHING SO YOU KNOW THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY AGREEING TO THIS AND THEY'RE SUPPORTING IT.
THEN IF THEY DON'T WANT IT WITHIN 10 YEARS, GUESS WHAT COMMUNITY GET TO KEEP IT FOR 10 YEARS OR YOU GET TO PAY TO RESTORE THE ROADWAY TO THE WAY IT IS.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL ITEM IN THE TOOLBOX TO BE DONE WERE CONSIDERED AND IT CAN COME BACK AT A FUTURE WORKSHOP.
BUT I'M ASKING FOR THIS COMMISSION TO ALLOW OUR CITY STAFF TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY, TO FIGURE OUT SOME TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES FOR THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT AS WE HEARD FROM MS. LIN TODAY, PEOPLE WANT TO WALK, THEY CAN'T WALK BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
SOMETIMES ALSO, SHE MADE A COMMENT THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THEIR HEARING ENDS IN.
BUT WHEN THOSE PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND WITH ALL THEIR TESLAS THAT ARE SO QUIET, PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR THAT LITTLE CAR GOING UP BEHIND IT.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE NEED SOME BETTER MECHANISMS TO HELP WITH BEATING ON OUR ROADS BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITIES. THAT IS MY ASK.
MY ASK IS FOR THIS COMMISSION TO ALLOW CITY STAFF TO GO AND LOOK THROUGH OUR TRAFFIC CALMING POLICIES AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO GET TO A YES FOR BETTER TYPES OF TRAFFIC CALMING WHEN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SAYING THAT THEY NEED IT.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS? I'M ASKING LIKE NOBODY'S LIGHTING UP, LIGHT IT UP IF YOU WANT. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
>> I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
>> YOU'RE ASKING TO LOWER THE STANDARDS TO PUT SPEED HUMPS IN COMMUNITIES OR TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICES?
>> NO. I'M ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE CAN BE OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING UTILIZATION WITHIN COMMUNITIES.
BECAUSE THROUGHOUT WHATEVER IS SAFE FOR A COMMUNITY.
AND THEY MADE A SUGGESTION OF ONE WAY THAT IT MIGHT BE OKAY.
>> WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING THEN?
>> I'M ASKING FOR THIS COMMISSIONS CONSENSUS TO ALLOW TRAFFIC ENGINEERING PERMITTING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICHEVER DEPARTMENTS NEEDS TO BE IN ON IT, TO DETERMINE IF WE CAN REVIEW SOME OF OUR REGULATIONS EITHER MAKE IT EASIER WITHIN SAFETY MEASURES, OF COURSE, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CERTAIN TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES BE PUT IN BY THE COMMUNITIES THAT ASKED FOR IT.
>> I THINK WHAT YOU SHOULD BE ASKING FOR THEM IS ASK STAFF TO WORKSHOP THIS ITEM TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS OR THINGS TO MAKE TRAFFIC CALMING BETTER.
FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD NOT BE FOR REDUCING 67% OF PETITIONS THAT IS NEEDED TO GET TRAFFIC CALMING IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY RESIDENTS WHO, WHILE THEY WANT TO BE SAFE, DO NOT AGREE WITH SPEED HUMPS OR SO ON IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
SPEED HUMPS SLOW DOWN EMERGENCY VEHICLES, FIRETRUCKS, POLICE OFFICERS.
SO IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY IN THAT COMMUNITY, THEN THE SPEED HUMPS ACTUALLY TAKE AWAY FROM THE RESPONSE TIMES TO GET TO SOMEBODY WHO MAY NEED HELP.
I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS AND IT IS TRUE THAT SPEED HUMPS HURT THE SENIORS BACKS AS WELL.
SO IF YOU'RE ASKING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SIGNATURES NEEDED, THE 67% NEEDED TO GET SPEED HUMPS IN COMMUNITIES.
JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT FOR THAT, BUT I'M FOR STAFF, THE ACTUAL PROFESSIONALS TO COME TO US WITH IDEAS AND THEN THIS COMMISSION CAN EXPLORE THE STAFFS' IDEAS THERE ARE REASONABLE,
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BUT JUST TO GIVE A BLANKET, OKAY, GO AHEAD STAFF MAKE IT EASIER, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SMART.I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY DISAPPOINTING.
YES. BUT NO, NOT A BLANKET STAFF. GO FIX IT.
>> VICE MAYOR, WHAT I HAD SAID WAS TO HAVE A WORKSHOP OF OTHER IDEAS TO MAKE IT WHERE THERE ARE OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING ABILITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND I NEVER SAID TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SIGNATURES IF WE WERE TO USE THAT ONE, I ASKED FOR A HIGHER AMOUNT OF SIGNATURES IF WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO OTHER TYPES OF TRAFFIC CALMING ABILITIES, I ASKED FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH SOME OTHER TOOLS AND THEN TOOLBOX AND TO BRING IT TO A WORKSHOP FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS.
>> MAYOR, I'M FORCED STAFF COMING BACK WITH A WORKSHOP TO TELL US THEIR FINDINGS.
I'M MAKING IT CLEAR THAT I'M NOT FOR US TELLING STAFF TO GO FIND EASY WAYS AND THEN IMPLEMENTED BY THEMSELVES.
>> THEY'RE NOT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A WORKSHOP, BUT THANK YOU.
BELIEVING, WE'RE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN CERTAIN WORDS ARE NOT BEING TWISTED AROUND.
>> SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR STAFF TO GO AND CHANGE THINGS.
WE'RE ASKING FOR A WORKSHOP AND THIS IS MY POINT FROM BEFORE.
YOUR RESPONSIBILITY OR YOUR POWER, EACH OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO ASK FOR AN ITEM TO BE WORKSHOPPED.
SO THE OTHER SECTION WAS IMPLEMENTED WHEN WE DID NOT HAVE WORKSHOPS AS A WAY TO GET ITEMS TO BE HEARD SO THAT STAFF COULD GO AND TAKE ACTION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE DOING UNDER THIS ITEM IS BRINGING AN ITEM UNDER WORKSHOP TO THEN BE TOLD GO TO WORKSHOP IT AND THEN TO BE TOLD IN THAT WORKSHOP, GO DO SOMETHING.
I'M TELLING YOU THAT IS NOT OUR POLICY, I'M REMINDING YOU THAT IS NOT OUR POLICY.
IF IT IS THAT YOU TRULY WANT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH INFORMATION IN A WORKSHOP, IT IS ALWAYS YOUR AND OUR PREROGATIVE TO WORKSHOP AN ITEM AND THEN AT THAT WORKSHOP, ASK OUR COLLEAGUES CONSENSUS IN THAT WORKSHOP.
THIS THAT YOU'RE DOING IS ASKING FOR IT ON THE OTHER, WHICH IS A WORKSHOP.
TO THEN GO TO A WORKSHOP WHICH IS ANOTHER WORKSHOP, THEN STAFF WOULD COME BACK, THEN WOULD GIVE CONSENSUS IN THAT WORKSHOP, IT IS A WASTE OF MY TIME AND YOURS SO PLEASE BE CLEAR IN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
>> IF YOU'RE DONE MANSPLAINING ME.
>> IF YOU'RE DONE MANSPLAINING ME, VICE MAYOR.
THE FACT OF MATTER IS THE WAY WHILE YOU ARE A MAN AND I'M A WOMAN AND YOU ARE MANSPLAINING ME.
>> THAT WAS VERY [OVERLAPPING] COMMENT AND I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT.
>> REMINDING ME WITH YOUR FINGER UP IN THE AIR AND I DO NOT NEED IT.
>> I'M REMINDING MY COLLEAGUE WHAT OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE.
AND IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WORKSHOP, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO ASK FOR IT.
>> SO TO REMIND EVERYBODY, SINCE EVERYBODY SEEMS TO HAVE A REMINDER, THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES IF WE DON'T SET WORKSHOP DATES, WE PUT THINGS ON THIS ITEM, THE NUMBER 10, TO GET CONSENSUS TO GET IT ON A FUTURE WORKSHOP ITEM BECAUSE WE CANNOT ASK FOR THINGS TO GO ON WORKSHOP UNLESS THERE'S CONSENSUS BY THREE OF US.
SO I AM ASKING FOR CONSENSUS FOR THIS ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED IN MORE DETAIL AT A COMMISSION.
I PUT DETAIL IN THE BACKYARD BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO SAY TO EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION, PUT YOUR BACKUP DATA UP THERE SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND LEAVE IT BEHIND AND JUST SAY, GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO TALK ABOUT.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S INFORMATION ON HERE AND THERE'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
THERE IS CONSENSUS SO FAR BY THREE OF US TO HAVE THIS COME FOR A DISCUSSION, A FULLY EDUCATED DISCUSSION IN A WORKSHOP.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? PLEASE PROCEED.
>> I'M IN SUPPORT. IT IMPROVES THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS. LET US GET IT DONE.
>> WE ARE NOW MOVING ALONG, WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THIS ITEM AND EVERYBODY HAS HAD THEIR ROUNDS WHO'S WANTED TO GO. WE ARE NOW [OVERLAPPING]
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>> YOU WANT YOUR FIVE, AND THEN YOU WANT YOUR TWO, WHEN YOU CAME BACK IN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> NO, I DID NOT. CLERK, DID I GO THROUGH TWO?
>> MADAM MAYOR IT WAS ONLY ONE ROUND FOR VICE MAYOR, IT WAS FIVE MINUTES. [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT IT WENT BACKUPS. THEN FINE, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
>> MANAGER, WHAT IS OUR POLICY WITH PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA OR PUTTING THINGS ON WORKSHOP? IS OUR NEW POLICY TO THEN PUT IT ON THE OTHER AND THEN ASK FOR A WORKSHOP, AND THEN AT THE WORKSHOP, ASK FOR CONSENSUS OR HAS IT BEEN CUSTOM AND PRACTICE, IF WE HAVE AN IDEA TO BRING IT TO A WORKSHOP, AND THEN ASK OUR COLLEAGUES FOR CONSENSUS AT A WORKSHOP, AND THEN IT COMES TO THE LATER COMMISSION MEETING?
>> MAYOR, IF I MAY? I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT STAFF INITIATED WORKSHOP ITEMS WE BRING THEM ON OUR OWN.
I JUST CANNOT ANSWER RIGHT NOW WITH THE COMMISSION INITIATED ITEMS, HOW THEY GET TO THE WORKSHOP.
I BELIEVE THAT WE GET SOME CONSENSUS TO PUT THEM ON THE WORKSHOP.
STAFF INITIATED ITEMS THEY GO [OVERLAPPING].
>> LET ME ASK YOU, BEFORE COVID, WHEN WE NEVER HAD THIS OTHER SECTION, AND I USED TO HAVE IDEAS WHERE DID I BRING THEM TO?
>> I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE BROUGHT THEM TO THE CITY MANAGER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> AND THAT IS WHAT EVERY SINGLE COMMISSIONER DID IN THE PAST.
WE ONLY HAVE AN OTHER SECTION BECAUSE OF COVID, AND BECAUSE WE WEREN'T HAVING WORKSHOPS.
I WOULD ASK THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY WORKSHOP ITEM FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, AND SEE WHO REQUESTED THOSE ITEMS AT THOSE WORKSHOPS, AND I'D LIKE THAT BEFORE THE END OF THIS WEEK.
>> FINISH YOUR ONE MINUTE, 32 SECOND OR ARE YOU DONE?
>> I JUST ASKED MY MANAGER THAT I DON'T NEED CONSENSUS FOR A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THROUGH THE CLERK.
IF YOU WANT ME TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT, MANAGER, DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO PROVIDE ME AS A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF WORKSHOPS, HOW THOSE ITEMS GOT ON WORKSHOPS, WHOSE ITEMS THEY WERE.
THAT HAS BEEN OUR CUSTOM AND PRACTICE IN THIS CITY, NOT TO BRING AN ITEM ON THE OTHER AND THEN ASK FOR A WORKSHOP, AND THEN AT THE WORKSHOP ASK FOR CONSENSUS, THEN WHEN WE GET A CONSENSUS, WE THEN PUT IT ON A COMMISSION AGENDA.
THAT'S NOT HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST.
FOR OUR MAYOR, WHO LIKES PROCESS, PLEASE STICK WITH THE PROCESS AND NOT CONFUSE THE TWO NEW ONES.
>> YOU'VE FINISHED YOUR 26 SECONDS.
>> SO THESE NEW COMMISSIONERS NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE HAVE DONE THINGS IN THE PAST, CUSTOM AND PRACTICE.
DO NOT THEN MAKE THIS A NEW CUSTOM AND PRACTICE, A NEW LAW OF THE LAND, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT.
THE OTHER SECTION IS TEMPORARY AND MATTER OF FACT, IT SHOULD BE GONE BY NOW, COVID IS DONE.
>> WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AT NAUSEUM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK FIVE YEARS, WE HAVEN'T HAD WORKSHOPS OVER COVID FOR HALF THE TIME.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IF WE JUST GO BACK TO A FEW MEETINGS AGO WHEN THE TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS YOU ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT GOT ON, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS IS HOW THE PROCESS IS, BECAUSE WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE AGENDA.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE WORKSHOP, BECAUSE WE DON'T SET THE AGENDA AND THEY'RE USUALLY IS NOT SOMEBODY'S NAME ATTACHED TO A WORKSHOP ITEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT LED BY US AND IF THERE IS SOMEBODY LEADING IT, THEN IT'S THE CITY PUTTING ONE THING ON THE AGENDA THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY CONSENSUS, WHICH IS WHAT OUR ORDINANCES AND OUR CHARTER SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO AGREE UPON.
THE PROCESS THAT I AM GOING THROUGH IS THE SAME PROCESS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SINCE WE'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS WITH THIS NEW COMMISSION SINCE NOVEMBER.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS AND ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS YOU JUST DON'T LIKE THAT YOU AGREE WITH ME ON THE FACT OF THE MATTER THAT WE SHOULD HAVE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I MADE MY REQUEST, AND I DID NOT STUTTER.
YOU HAVE MY REQUEST, MANAGER. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU'RE NOT WELCOME. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS ITEM IS HEADED TO A WORKSHOP WITH MORE DETAILS ON WHAT, IF POSSIBLE, CAN BE DONE TO ADD TO THE TOOLBOX FOR TRAFFIC CALMING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
NOTHING FURTHER ON THIS ITEM IS NEEDED SINCE WE'VE GOT CONSENSUS.
WE'RE NOW MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ANOTHER ITEM THAT
[10.c Discussion regarding potential changes to enforcement timeline for landscape related violations. Requested by Mayor Michelle J. Gomez]
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IS BEING ASKED FOR A DISCUSSION TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE CONSENSUS TO MOVE THIS FOR CITY STAFF TO LOOK INTO AND BRINGING BACK TO THE CITY IF NEED BE BECAUSE THIS MIGHT NOT BE WITHIN OUR POLICY, BUT THEN AGAIN, IT GOES INTO OUR ORDINANCES, SO IT MAY.THIS IS REGARDING LANDSCAPE CHANGES AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF TIMELINES FOR LANDSCAPING ORDINANCES.
AS SOME PEOPLE MAY KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING TONS OF EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, TEXTS, AND THE LIKE, THERE ARE CERTAIN ISSUES WITH CERTAIN LANDSCAPING BEING DONE BY CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS.
WHEN I ASKED TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE EXACT PERIOD OF TIME SOMEBODY HAS TO CUT THEIR GRASS, TRIM THEIR TREES, AND THE SORT, I WAS ADVISED OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR BACKUP.
THERE'S VARIOUS TIMES OF REASONABLENESS AND IT RELATES TO THE NATURE OF THE PROCESS AND WHAT IS BEING DONE, AND THAT THERE IS AN ACTUAL TIMELINE FOR VERBAL WARNINGS ALL THE WAY THROUGH WHEN THE LIENS ARE IMPOSED.
MY CONCERN IS THAT WITHOUT HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A STRUCTURE FOR OUR COURT DEPARTMENT, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY THAT THIS IS BEING PUT OUT THERE AND IT IS NOT UNIFORM AND IT DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR EQUAL ENFORCEMENT OR EQUAL NOTICE, NOT NOTICE BECAUSE NOTICE IS GIVEN.
BUT IF COURT GIVES MY NEIGHBOR 10 DAYS TO FIX UP THEIR YARD AND MOW THEIR LAWN, BUT IT ONLY GIVES MY OTHER NEIGHBOR SEVEN THE CONSISTENCY THAT THE NEIGHBORS COULD COMPLAIN ABOUT, TAKING THAT THEIR SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
MY ASK IS FOR THIS COMMISSION TO DIRECT STAFF TO REVIEW TO SEE IF THERE SHOULD BE ADDITIONAL RULES PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD HELP THEM IN EFFECTUATING THE PROPER LANDSCAPING ITEMS THAT THEY ARE ENFORCING IN THE CITY, ALLOWING THEM TO KEEP THEIR OWN DEGREE TO BE ABLE TO REASONABLENESS IF THEY NEED TO EXTEND CERTAIN PERIODS OF TIME.
I HAVE SCOTT KRAJEWSKI, WHO IS OUR COURT COMPLIANCE MANAGER.
I THINK I GOT YOUR TITLE RIGHT SIR, IF I DIDN'T.
HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT HE AND HIS TEAM MAY HAVE HAD OR EXPERIENCES THEY MAY HAVE HAD WITH RESIDENTS WHO ARE COMPLAINING OR HAVING ISSUES WITH OUR LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? COMMISSIONER WRIGHT [OVERLAPPING]
>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT SCOTT SAYS.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, STAFF, [INAUDIBLE] CODE MANAGER, CITY OF TAMARAC.
>> COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS HAS ASKED WHAT [INAUDIBLE]
>> EXAMPLES AS TO WHAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE EXPERIENCING?
>> WE EXPERIENCED VARIOUS DEGREES AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MY DIRECTOR MAXINE, AND WE DO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO TIGHTEN IT UP FOR STATE STATUTE FOR SOME OF THE MORE DIFFICULT PEOPLE.
AND THEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO DOING THAT AND WE WILL BECOME MORE UNIFORM.
IT'S ONE THING TO ASK A 90 YEAR-OLD LADY TO CUT HER GRASS AS OPPOSED TO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
WE'RE GOING TO TIGHTEN IT UP ON BOTH ENDS, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE COMPASSIONATE ENOUGH TO THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT NEED A LITTLE ADDITIONAL TIME.
>> WILL THIS TIGHTENING HELP LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, THAT HOME IN DISTRICT 4 WHERE IT HAD JUST FOR RECORD PURPOSE, HAD ALL SORTS OF VEHICLES, GRASS, TREES.
IT WAS A BIG ISSUE. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS TIGHTENING WILL AID IN PREVENTING THAT FROM REALLY EXPLODING INTO A DISASTER?
>> IT WILL AID UNDER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COMPLY, IT WILL AID ON THAT INDIVIDUAL.
IT WOULD JUST GONE OVER HERE AND QUICKER AND HE'D HAVE BEEN FIND MORE.
>> I'M JUST HEARING SOMETHING, YOU DON'T NEED THE PERMISSION OF THE COMMISSION, SO YOU COULD DO THIS ON YOUR OWN?
>> WE DO HAVE DISCRETION, WE CHECKED THE ORDINANCE TOGETHER WITH MAXINE AND WE HAVE THE DISCRETION TO [OVERLAPPING] TIGHTEN UP THE TIMELINE AS NEEDED.
>> THEN AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, SINCE IT'S IN YOUR DISCRETION, THIS CONVERSATION DOESN'T NEED TO BE HEARD BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND I'LL PULL THE ITEM FOR THE REST OF IT.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW, ONTO 10D, WITH THE APPROVAL OF HOUSE BILL 657, THE BILL AUTHORIZES COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES TO USE SPEED DETECTION SYSTEMS,
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WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO RED LIGHT CAMERAS TO ENFORCE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMITS FOR VIOLATIONS IN EXCESS OF 10 MILES PER HOUR OR THE APPLICABLE SPEED LIMIT WHEN CHILDREN ARE GOING TO OR FROM SCHOOL AND DURING THE ENTIRETY OF THE SCHOOL DAY.I HAVE ASKED YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL WORKSHOP TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND ANY BUSINESS THAT WOULD DO THIS TO GIVE US A FREE TRAFFIC STUDY AT THE SCHOOL ZONES.
AND FOR RIGHT NOW, I JUST LISTED ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND PINE ISLAND, COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND NORTHWEST 94TH STREET ON PINE ISLAND ROAD BETWEEN SOUTH GATE BOULEVARD AND NORTHWEST 81ST STREET, ON UNIVERSITY BETWEEN NORTHWEST 82ND STREET AND SOUTH GATE BOULEVARD, ON UNIVERSITY BETWEEN NORTHWEST 76TH STREET, NORTHWEST 78TH STREET.
I THINK I HIT ALL OF OUR MAJOR SCHOOLS OF CHALLENGER, MILLENNIUM, THE RENAISSANCE CHARTER, AND TAMARAC ELEMENTARY, THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS.
I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS AND OUR STUDENTS GO TO OTHER PLACES, BUT WE CAN ONLY DO WITH WHAT'S IN OUR CITY LIMITS.
SO I KNOW WE'VE ALSO TRIED IN THE PAST TO SEE WHAT OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO WITHIN OUR SCHOOL ZONES.
BUT IF WE ADDED MORE SIGNAGE, IF WE ADDED THIS, ADDED THAT WE ALSO AGREED AT THAT TIME THAT PEOPLE DON'T READ THE SIGNS SO WE REALLY WOULDN'T MAKE ANY MORE SENSE TO DO THAT.
SO WITH THE STATE AUTHORIZING THIS BILL, WONDERING IF WE CAN GET A PRESENTATION AT A WORKSHOP TO LEARN MORE TO DETERMINE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING GOOD FOR OUR CITY OR NOT.
AND THEY PUT THE BILL IN THE BACK UP IN CASE PEOPLE WANTED TO READ THE REASONING, THE RATIONALE, THE CURRENT SITUATION, THE SUMMARY ANALYSIS, TYPES OF SCHOOLS ZONES, RADAR SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICES, LICENSED PLAY POINTS, AND ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF WHICH IS THE EFFECT OF THE BILL.
AND NOT WISHING TO GO INTO DETAIL NOW, BUT ASKING OUR CITY FOR CONSENSUS, TO HAVE OUR CITY STAFF PUT IT ON THE AGENDA ITEM TO SPEAK FOR A WORKSHOP. COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
>> I THINK WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THESE TRAFFIC TICKETS AND THE PROBLEMS THEY BROUGHT TO OUR RESIDENTS IN DIFFERENT CITY, NOT JUST TAMARAC.
THE SCHOOL ZONE HAS THE 15 MILES PER HOUR.
AS A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, YOU START GIVING PARENTS TICKETS, TICKETS, TICKETS BECAUSE IT WON'T BE A HUMAN FACTOR INVOLVED.
SO ALL YOU END UP DOING IS GIVING TO SCHOOL MORE OF A HEADACHE UPSETTING THE RESIDENTS WHO WE'VE BEEN SAYING, WE DO NOT WANT TO BE AN ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL BURDEN TO THEM.
I THINK THIS ONE I WILL LEAVE ALONE.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
>> I DROP MY DAUGHTER OFF IN THE MORNING AND PICK UP IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND WHAT I'VE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS WHEN SHE WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL IN MILLENNIUM IN TERRA BELLA IS PEOPLE DO NOT PAY ATTENTION DURING SCHOOL TRAFFIC TIMES.
I'VE CALLED BSL SEVERAL TIMES.
I HAVE BEEN HONKED ON BECAUSE I'M DOING THE SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE I KNOW I'M IN A SCHOOL ZONE BUT YET PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE YOU ARE IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
IF THE SCHOOL BOARD IS FAILING US, WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON IT.
I FIND IT DISGRACEFUL THAT PEOPLE ARE ON THEIR PHONES.
THEY'RE ZOOMING THROUGH A SCHOOL ZONE BECAUSE THEY SEE THE FIRST LIGHT AND IF THEY SEE THE FIRST LIGHT, BUT AFTER THE FIRST LIGHT, THERE'S NO MORE LIGHTS INDICATING THEY'RE IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
KIDS LITERALLY ARE CROSSING THE STREET AND YES, IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CHILDREN, THE SCHOOL BOARD, OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
IT'S A COMMUNITY THING TO LET THESE CHILDREN KNOW THEY CAN'T ALSO JUST BE CROSSING THE STREET WITHOUT LOOKING.
AND BEFORE YOU USED TO, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE NOT ON THEIR PHONES, PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION AND THEY KNEW, OKAY, IT'S 2:40 PM KIDS ARE COMING OUT OF SCHOOL.
IT'S 9:30 AM, THEY'RE ENTERING SCHOOL.
AND AGAIN, DEPENDS ON THE TIME IN SCHOOL WHETHER IT'S ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, OR HIGH SCHOOL.
I RATHER GIVE A TICKET TO A PARENT THAT'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION THAN HAVE ONE MY KIDS GET RAN OVER.
I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF JUST EVEN LOOKING INTO IT.
WE'RE NOT DECIDING ON ANYTHING, BUT TO AT LEAST GET EDUCATED AND TO KNOW THAT WE CAN SAVE A KID'S LIFE.
WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES AND DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOT BEING THERE FOR OUR CHILDREN.
I DON'T SEE HOW WE CANNOT BE IN FAVOR OF AT LEAST DOING A STUDY AND COMING BACK TO US AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE ON WHETHER OR NOT A TICKET IS WORTH A LIFE.
>> THIS IS WHY THE CAMERAS WERE REMOVED.
AGAIN, POLICE OFFICERS CAN GIVE TICKETS, THEY CAN GIVE WARNINGS, THEY CAN SEE.
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THAT'S WHAT THEY CURRENTLY DO.I THINK HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS WERE AGAINST THIS INITIALLY, WHY IT WAS REMOVED.
I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU'RE REMOVING THE HUMAN FACTOR AND LETTING A CAMERA, A ROBOT, WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, TELLS YOU WHO GETS A TICKET.
THE HUMAN FACTOR NEED TO BE THERE, THE POLICE OFFICER NEEDS TO BE THERE.
AGAIN, I'M NOT INTO REMOVING THE HUMAN FACTOR WHEN YOU'RE GIVING SOMEONE A TICKET WHEN YOU'RE PROTECTING CHILDREN IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE DAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL ZONE TIMING, CORRECT?
>> ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, THIS IS SCHOOL TIME ZONING, WHERE PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT WHEN YOU'RE PASSING BY SCHOOL ABC, THAT FROM THIS TIME TO THAT TIME, THERE ARE CHILDREN CROSSING, THERE ARE PARENTS SLOWING DOWN, THERE ARE PARENTS STOPPING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS, DROPPING OFF THEIR KIDS.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE, SO WE'RE NOT ISSUING TICKETS AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
WE'RE REFERRING TO A SPECIFIC TIME IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON, NOT WEEKENDS, NOT HOLIDAYS, NOT SUMMER.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SUMMER, BUT THAT'S THE POINT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE NOT ISSUING TICKETS AT RANDOM TIMES.
>> THANK YOU. ALSO, I'M VERY MUCH FOR THE HUMAN FACTOR.
ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT THIS IS A REVIEW TO SEE WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF WE CAN DO IT.
WHEN WE, THE CITY OF TAMARAC, CUT ITS RELY CAMERA, WHICH MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT I WAS NOT FOR IT, IT TOOK A LOT FOR ME TO VOTE FOR IT.
I WAS NOT OPPOSED WHEN OUR CAMERA CONTRACT DISSOLVED ON HIS OWN AND WE DIDN'T RENEW IT, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN INDIVIDUAL OFFICER REVIEWING IT.
THERE WAS THAT HUMAN FACTOR IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NOT A PROBLEM.
THIS IS NOT RUNNING A LIGHT, THIS IS IF IT'S IN EXCESS OF 10 MILES AN HOUR AND I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT IT'S THE PARENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GETTING THE TICKET BECAUSE THEY'RE DROPPING THE KIDS OFF.
IT'S FOR THAT PERSON IN THE CAR THAT GOES SPEEDING RIGHT FAST, THAT I'VE BEEN IN THAT TRAFFIC THING AS WELL.
ACTUALLY, IF WE HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR A WORKSHOP, WE CAN THEN HEAR FROM OUR OWN BSO BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY SET UP THEIR TRAFFIC TICKET TYPES TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
THEY WERE DOING IT RIGHT BY CHALLENGER ON COMMERCIAL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO TO GET PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING THROUGH THE SPEED ZONES OR SPEEDING THROUGH A SPEED ZONE.
IT IS JUST A REQUEST TO SEE IF WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, LEARN ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY, LEARN IF WE CAN HAVE A HUMAN BEING BEHIND IT TO BE LOOKING AT IT IF WE WERE TO GO FORWARD TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO STOP THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST SPEEDING THROUGH OUR SCHOOL ZONES DURING SET HOURS IN EXCESS TO 10 MILES AN HOUR.
IT'S AN INQUIRY, IT IS NOT A MANDATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY YES TO IT.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THIS COMMISSION HAS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC FLOW DURING SCHOOL ZONES, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS NOT MADE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM OR WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?
>> I SOMEWHAT AGREE WITH DR. DANIEL.
I THINK A TICKET IN THE MAIL FIVE DAYS LATER CAN'T REPLACE SOMEONE HITTING A KID IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
HAVING MORE OFFICERS' PRESENCE, I THINK THAT THAT'S A BETTER OPTION.
EVERY MORNING I DRIVE PAST COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, NEARBY THE FERGUSON GROUP AND I SEE 2-3 OFFICERS OUT THERE DOING THEIR JOB, GIVING OUT TICKETS AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE FOLLOW THE SCHOOL ZONE ON A SPEED LIMIT EVERYDAY.
THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, I THINK.
I WANT TO COMMENT BSO FOR DOING THAT, YOU GUYS ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
I ALSO SEE OFFICERS THEREBY MILLENNIUM TAMARAC VILLAGE.
MY BROTHER NOT BY BLOOD, BY LAW, BUT HE WORKS AT THAT SCHOOL AS WELL, SO I SEE THE PRESENCE THERE WITH YOU GUYS.
THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THEM FROM BEFORE THOUGH IN DIFFERENT CITIES.
I THINK HAVING THAT HUMAN PRESENCE IS WHAT WE NEED AND HAVING MORE OFFICERS BE IN FAVOR OF, NOT NECESSARY IN FAVOR OF THIS HAVING RED LIGHT CAMERAS.
>> COMMISSIONER DANIEL, YOU'VE GONE TWICE, SO IN ORDER TO KEEP PROCEDURE, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE [OVERLAPPING]
>> THANK YOU. REALLY, WE'RE GOING TO BE ALMOST DONE WITH THIS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I'M ALL FOR THE HUMANS, I'M ALL FOR THE OFFICERS.
IF I'M HEARING THIS COMMISSION, WE'RE GOING TO PASS A BUDGET THAT'S GOING TO ADD A BUNCH OF OFFICERS IN THESE, AT LEAST, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ZONES FOR SCHOOL BOARD.
THIS IS WHAT I HEAR BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO HELP GET THE PEOPLE
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STOPPING FROM SPEEDING THROUGH OUR SCHOOL ZONES ARE THE POLICE OFFICERS, SO I GUESS WE BETTER BE INCREASING THE BUDGET.WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE AND YOU DON'T SEE THEM AT ALL THE SCHOOLS ZONES, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE IN FRONT OF [INAUDIBLE] AND PEOPLE IN FRONT OF TAMARAC ELEMENTARY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I DRIVE THROUGH A LOT, ARE VERY UPSET BECAUSE OF PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING THROUGH THEM BECAUSE MAYBE THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF RESOURCES WE HAVE ARE OVER AT TAMARAC CHALLENGER AND THEY'RE OVER AT MILLENNIUM.
ACTUALLY, WE KNOW A LOT OF THEM ARE ON SOUTH GATE AND PINE ISLAND BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AT TOWER VELA.
THEY'RE NOT BEING PAID BY ANYBODY ELSE, THEY'RE BEING PAID BY US.
WE'RE TAKING OUR OFFICERS DURING THOSE IMPORTANT TIMES TO BE DEALING WITH TRAFFIC CALMING OR SPEEDERS AND IT'S NOT AN EVERYDAY OCCURRENCE.
AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE I'M FOR, I DON'T LIKE BIG BROTHER, I AM THE ONE WHO'S AGAINST BIG BROTHER.
ALL I WANTED TO DO IS SEE IF WE CAN DO, AGAIN A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX TO HELP OUR PARENTS WHO ARE ALSO UPSET WITH ALL THE SPEEDING THAT'S GOING THROUGH IN OUR CITY WHERE THEIR CHILDREN ARE TRYING TO WALK TO SCHOOL AND HELP OUR ALSO CROSSING GUARDS.
THAT IS ABOUT IT. AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LINE AND SEE IF THERE'S CONSENSUS, THAT THIS CONSENSUS WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP TO FIND OUT MORE.
IF NOT, THEN THE DEAL IS DONE. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> THANK YOU. WE WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS ITEM TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND AT THAT TIME, HOPEFULLY BSO WILL ALSO HAVE A LIST OF TICKETS THAT THEY'VE BEEN WRITING AT THAT TIME AND IT'LL BE COORDINATED BETWEEN THE STAFF.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT APPEARS THAT PEOPLE ARE READY TO LEAVE DESPITE THIS MEETING NOT YET BEING ADJOURNED.
HOPEFULLY, PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING WILL BE JOINING US TONIGHT AT THE DISTRICT 1 COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING MEETING AND THEN WE WILL SEE EVERYBODY ON JULY 4TH AT THE CITY SPORTS COMPLEX TO CELEBRATE OUR NATION'S BIRTHDAY.
THANK YOU, GET HOME SAFELY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.