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>> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
[CALL TO ORDER:]
WELCOME TO OUR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12TH MEETING.SORRY FOR OUR FEW MINUTES DELAY.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS JOINED US AND BRAVED THE RAPIDS TO GET HERE.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR GOMEZ. GOOD EVENING.
>> IF EVERYONE WILL PLEASE STAND.
COMMISSIONER ELVIN VILLALOBOS WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND WE WILL TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE RIGHT AFTERWARD, PLEASE, THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT. CITY MANAGER ANY REPORT?
[2. CITY MANAGER REPORT]
IF I MAY, I WANTED TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO SAY THAT I'M EXTREMELY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THE APPOINTMENT OF CAPTAIN JEMERIAH COOPER AS OUR NEXT BSO DISTRICT CHIEF IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC, EFFECTIVE AS OF SATURDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2023.
WE ALL KNOW HIM FROM THE TIME THAT HE SPENT ALREADY IN TAMARAC AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE EASIEST POSSIBLE DECISIONS THAT I COULD MAKE AS A CITY MANAGER.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM IN HIS NEW ROLE AS DISTRICT CHIEF AND WE WISH HIM WELL, AND WE WISH HIM ALL THE BEST IN THIS HIGHLY CRITICAL AND CHALLENGING POSITION IN TAMARAC.
CONGRATULATIONS, CAPTAIN COOPER.
>> CONGRATULATIONS. [APPLAUSE]. CAPTAIN COOPER, I KNOW THIS WAS STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR CITY MANAGERS' REPORT, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
>> THANK YOU. LET'S MAKE IT OFFICIAL.
CAPTAIN JEMERIAH COOPER, THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]. FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR SHERIFF GREGORY TONY FOR PROMOTING ME TO CAPTAIN.
THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER SOCUOGLU FOR APPOINTING ME AS THE DISTRICT CAPTAIN FOR TAMARAC.
MAYOR, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU.
I ALSO WANT TO JUST SHOW SOME GRATITUDE TO MY ENTIRE TEAM OUT HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE, MY MOTHER, MOTHER-IN-LAW, [APPLAUSE], THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
I DON'T WANT TO SKIP OR NOT NAME ANYONE, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT-OUT TO MY MAJOR, MAJOR RUSSO.
SHE'S BEEN A VERY BIG SUPPORTER OF ME [APPLAUSE] FROM THE TIME I GOT PROMOTED AS A SERGEANT.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE LOVE AND SUPPORT.
FOR THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS OF TAMARAC, I'M READY TO WORK HARD WITH THE CITY COMMISSION TO MOVE TAMARAC FORWARD AND A MUCH BETTER PLACE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FAMILY THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SHARE HIM.
[LAUGHTER] CITY MANAGER, DO YOU HAVE MORE?
>> I ALSO WANT TO ADD TO THIS THAT WE WANT TO EXTEND OUR CONGRATULATIONS TO MAJOR SIMONELLO AND WE WISH HIM WELL IN HIS NEW POSITION AND NEW RESPONSIBILITIES.
THANK YOU ALL. I JUST WANT TO CAUTION EVERYONE TO BE CAREFUL OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THIS RAIN AND ALMOST UNNAMED HURRICANE.
WE HAVE ALL STORM-WATER PUMPS STATIONS RUNNING AND THE CREWS ARE OUT THERE CLEANING CATCH BASINS, SO EVERYTHING IS GOOD AT THIS POINT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MADAM MAYOR.
>> EXCELLENT. IF THE COMMISSIONER WOULD JOIN ME INTO THE WELL, WE HAVE A FEW PROCLAMATIONS, PLEASE.
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THIS PROCLAMATION WAS REQUESTED BY OUR FIRE CHIEF MICHAEL ANNESE.WHEREAS THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL ESTIMATES THAT 1 IN 44 CHILDREN HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED WITH AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER, ASD IN THE UNITED STATES.
WHEREAS AUTISM IS A REALITY THAT AFFECTS MILLIONS OF FAMILIES EVERY DAY AND WHILE OUR NATION HAS MADE PROGRESS IN SUPPORTING THOSE WITH ASD, WE ARE ONLY BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND THE FACTORS BEHIND THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE.
WHEREAS EACH INDIVIDUAL SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE FULL INDEPENDENT LIVES AND FOLLOW THEIR TALENTS WHEREVER THEY LEAD.
WHEREAS EARLY DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT ARE ESSENTIAL FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER AND WE SUPPORT ANY HEALTHCARE SYSTEM THAT WORKS FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS WITH ASD.
WHEREAS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH, WE RECOMMIT TO HELPING INDIVIDUALS ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL.
WHEREAS THE AUTISM SOCIETY HAS ESTABLISHED APRIL AS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH.
WE RECOGNIZE THOSE WITH WHO ARE ACHIEVING AND BREAKING DOWN BARRIERS AND WE STRIVE TO PROMOTE ACCEPTANCE AND CELEBRATE THE DIFFERENCES AND INCLUSION TOWARDS AUTISTIC INDIVIDUALS AROUND US.
NOW THEREFORE, I MICHELLE J. GOMEZ, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2023 AS AUTISM AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ON DOWN IN PERSON? IF YOU DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE OUR TRUCK OUTSIDE SHOWING OUR SUPPORT AND THAT'S THE SHOES I DIDN'T WEAR TODAY WAS MY AUTISM SHOES I APOLOGIZE. [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL, WE STARTED THIS INITIATIVE LAST YEAR.
ME, MYSELF, I HAVE AN AUTISTIC DAUGHTER AT HOME.
WE ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS IN OUR STAFF THAT HAVE AUTISTIC KIDS SO WE GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMISSION FROM THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
WE STARTED A YEARLY AUTISM AWARENESS SHIRT THAT CHIEF ANNESE'S ALLOWED US TO WEAR DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL.
LAST YEAR WAS OUR VERY FIRST YEAR.
WE ONLY HAD A SMALL DONATION AFTER ALL THE PROCEEDS OF ABOUT $500, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO ABOUT $1,000 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DONATE THIS YEAR.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT.
[APPLAUSE] WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT OUR AUTISM CLOTHING THAT WE HAVE, STUFF THAT WE'VE BOUGHT OVER THE YEARS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE WORN.
OUR APOLOGIES. COME TO THE NEXT MEETING YOU WILL SEE US ALL GUSSIED UP IN OUR AUTISM AWARENESS CLOTHING.
THIS PROCLAMATION WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER KEISHA DANIEL.
WHEREAS FLORIDA'S BRIGHT FUTURE DEPENDS ON THE HEALTHY DEVELOPMENT OF ITS CHILDREN.
WHEREAS ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, INCLUDING THE ABUSE AND NEGLECT OF CHILDREN, CAN CAUSE SEVERE AND COSTLY CONSEQUENCES FOR CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.
WHEREAS EVERY CHILD HAS THE RIGHT TO A SAFE, HEALTHY, AND HAPPY CHILDHOOD WHERE THEY ARE EDUCATIONALLY AND DEVELOPMENTALLY ON TRACK.
WHEREAS RESEARCH SHOWS THAT PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS WHO HAVE THE SUPPORT SYSTEMS AND KNOW HOW TO SEEK HELP IN TIMES OF TROUBLE ARE MORE RESILIENT AND BETTER ABLE TO PROVIDE SAFE ENVIRONMENTS AND NURTURING EXPERIENCES FOR THEIR CHILDREN.
WHEREAS IT IS VITAL THAT INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS, AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, MAKE CHILDREN A TOP PRIORITY AND TAKE ACTION TO SUPPORT THE PHYSICAL, SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL, AND EDUCATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND COMPETENCY OF ALL CHILDREN.
WHEREAS DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL,
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PREVENT CHILD ABUSE FLORIDA, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND THE OUNCE OF PREVENTION FUND OF FLORIDA IMPLEMENTS PINWHEELS FOR PREVENTION.WHEREAS PINWHEELS FOR PREVENTION IS A STATEWIDE COORDINATED CAMPAIGN AIMED TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION EFFORTS BY ENCOURAGING HEALTHY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT, POSITIVE PARENTING PRACTICES, AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
WHEREAS THE BLUE AND SILVER PINWHEEL DISPLAYS IN THIS CAMPAIGN SYMBOLIZE THE HEALTH AND HAPPINESS OF ALL CHILDREN DESERVE.
WHEREAS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY TO URGE ALL FLORIDIANS TO ENCOURAGE AND ENGAGE IN ACTIVITIES THAT STRENGTHEN FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES AND THAT PROVIDE THE OPTIMAL ENVIRONMENT FOR HEALTHY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2023 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, I'M REALLY COMMITTED TO BE OUT IN THE STORM, BUT CHILDREN'S SERVICES COUNCIL THANKS THE CITY OF TAMARAC FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO KEEPING CHILDREN SAFE IN BROWARD COUNTY.
WE'RE HAVING A BIG FAMILY RESOURCE FAIRNESS SATURDAY.
IT'S ABOUT KEEPING THE CHILDREN OF BROWARD COUNTY SAFE AND APPLYING RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY.
EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND.
IT'S AT THE SAMUEL DELEVOE PARK IN FORT LAUDERDALE.
IT'S A FREE RESOURCE FAIR AND IT'S FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM.
>> MAYOR, DO YOU MIND STAYING THERE FOR A GROUP PICTURE WITH THE BSO COMMAND STAFF AND OUR NEW CHIEF, PLEASE?
>> FAMILY, JOIN US WE TAKE ONE GROUP PHOTO AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO LET THE FAMILY HAVE
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AN OPPORTUNITY.[BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER] [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JIM, YOU HAVE THE STUFF FOR THE ABOVE, THE NOTES? THE RULES OF THE ROAD. NO, WE WILL PUT THEM UP. JUST PUT THEM UP.
>> MAYOR, IF I MAY [OVERLAPPING] BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
I ALSO WANT TO TAKE ONE LAST SECOND TO RECOGNIZE A VERY SPECIAL PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE.
YOU ALL KNOW HIM MR. BOB NORTON VISITING US FROM NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE.
WE WANT TO WELCOME THEM TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
>> THANK YOU, BOB. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
WE WILL NOW GO TO OUR EXCITING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PART OF THE EVENING.
[3. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION]
THE RULES OF THE ROAD ARE ABOVE AND BASICALLY, YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR LOCATION IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.WE DON'T SHARE OUR THREE MINUTES.
DESPITE WHAT WE DID FOR PROCLAMATIONS, IF YOU ARE HAPPY, WE GO HAPPY HANDS, IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY, YOU GO SAD HANDS AND WE KEEP THE COMMENTS WHILE PEOPLE ARE TALKING TO NONE ACTUALLY.
ON THAT NOTE, WE'RE ALSO TRYING THIS AGAIN WITH OUR SHEETS.
ACTUALLY, FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S FOR ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA OR 10.
WE DON'T SPEAK ON ANY ITEM THAT'S ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.
PATTY LYNN, IT'S THE WAY THE PAPERS WERE HANDED TO ME.
FOR ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE HERE FOR SPEAKING ON THE FIRST READING, WE DO NOT SPEAK AT FIRST READING ON ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PATTY LYNN, MAINLAND 8.
FIRST CONGRATULATIONS TO CAPTAIN COOPER.
I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR NAME BADGE CHANGED.
GOOD. I THINK THAT WE'RE EASING UP A LITTLE BIT AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO OUR RULES.
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I KNOW THE BSO HAS A LOT TO DO.HOWEVER, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS IS NOT PERMITTED IN THIS CITY.
AS YOU LET THAT HAPPEN AND YOU IGNORE THOSE LITTLE THINGS, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGES.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA ABOUT TIMES OF PARKING ON THE STREET BUT PARKING ON THE STREET ITSELF JUST DEGRADES A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN YOU HAVE A SEMI-TRUCK PARKED THERE OR THE FRONT HALF OF IT, THE CAB OR A DUMP TRUCK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IT JUST LOOKS AWFUL.
I'M PROUD TO BE A TAMARAC RESIDENT.
MY GOODNESS AND I LIKE THE DEMOGRAPHICS.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY GETS ALONG AND WE HAVE A GOOD TIME.
BUT WE'RE PROUD OF THE WAY OUR HOMES LOOK.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE YELLING AT NEIGHBORS ABOUT DOING THINGS WITH COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE HAVING TO DEAL WITH OUR NEIGHBORS SAYING, HEY, PLEASE DON'T DO THAT.
WE'LL DO IT ONCE, BUT WE WON'T DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE THEN WE'RE CREATING A PROBLEM.
KEEPING THE NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING GOOD HELPS TAMARAC STATE, A CITY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE TO SO I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, CAPTAIN.
HE MIGHT HAVE STEPPED TO THE RESTROOM. ROBERT ALFONSO.
>> THANKS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK NOW, SO I DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE END OF THE NIGHT.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE UNFAIR AND ACCOUNTABLE $700 PER MONTH CAR ALLOWANCE, THE COMMISSIONERS EACH CURRENTLY ARE PAID.
TAMARAC IS APPROXIMATELY A 12 SQUARE MILE CITY. IT'S NOT THAT BIG.
IT'S NOT CREDIBLE TO SAY THAT ANY OF YOU DRIVE $700 WORTH OF TRAVEL WITHIN OUR 12 SQUARE MILE CITY IN ANY GIVEN MONTH.
CURRENTLY, YOU GET PAID, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE ANY PROOF OF TRAVEL NOR EXPENSE REPORTS NOR RECEIPTS.
NOWHERE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS ANY ONE HANDED A $700 LUMP PAYMENT EACH MONTH WITHOUT FIRST NEEDING TO SHOW PROOF OF TRAVEL SUCH AS AN EXPENSE REPORT AND RECEIPTS.
HOWEVER FOR SOME REASON, THIS IS TOTALLY OKAY FOR OUR FIVE CITY COMMISSIONERS.
MOVING FORWARD, YOU SHOULD SUBMIT AN EXPENSE REPORT EACH MONTH SHOWING YOUR TRAVEL EXPENSES.
YOU SHOULD USE AN APP ON YOUR PHONE TO TRACK AND LOG TRAVEL TO MAKE IT EASY.
PRIVATE BUSINESSES USE THESE TOOLS UBIQUITOUSLY.
YOU SHOULD BE REIMBURSED 58.5 CENTS PER MILE FOR WORK TRAVEL, NOT A FLAT UNACCOUNTABLE $700 RATE.
LATER TONIGHT, THERE HOPEFULLY WILL BE A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CAR ALLOWANCES.
IN THAT DISCUSSION, YOU CAN SAVE US TIME AND NOT MAKE UP ANY EXCUSES SUCH AS, YOU WORK HARD, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, YOU'LL USE THE MONEY FOR CHARITY OR FILL IN THE BLANK WITH WHATEVER CONCOCTED EXCUSES YOU COME UP WITH.
EXCUSES WILL NOT BE CREDIBLE, POISON PILLS WILL NOT BE CREDIBLE.
NONE OF YOU ARE ABOVE ACCOUNTABILITY TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
MICHELLE AND ELVIN HAVE PLEDGED THEIR SUPPORT TO PASS THIS CHANGE.
>> KARL MORRIS FOR COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD'VE VOTED TO ELIMINATE THAT $700 CAR ALLOWANCES FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS.
>> THAT'S YOU MORRY. THAT WAS YOU TELLING YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU WOULD VOTE FOR THIS.
I HOPE YOU HONOR THAT COMMITMENT. DO THE RIGHT THING.
MY MATH SAYS THIS IS THREE VOTES TO PASS THIS CHANGE.
LET'S BE DONE WITH THIS. IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS BEEN FIGHTING THIS FIGHT.
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>> THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF TAMARAC.
>> THANK YOU. MR. BARISH, I CALLED YOU WHILE YOU WERE IN THE RESTROOM.
>> PAUL P. BARISH WELL, BRUCE BARISH, 7555 NORTHWEST 80TH AVENUE, TAMARAC, FLORIDA, SPRING LEG TO 21 YEARS IT'S BEEN LIKE TWO BY THE WAY.
I JUST RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM MAYOR GOMEZ THAT THIS WAS RESOLVED, AND IF IT IS, I HAVE SO MUCH KUDOS FOR YOU THAT IT IS, AND THAT YOU FINALLY CAME TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE WANT, THAT I WANT.
I NEVER WILL, ME MYSELF AND I. THAT'S ME.
BUT I WAS GOING TO COME HERE TODAY AND I WAS GOING TO GIVE A MAJOR SCENARIO BUT NOW I DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THIS WAS RESOLVED.
MAYOR, IF YOU DID THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR ME, MY HAT IS OFF TO YOU. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. WE'LL SPEAK TOMORROW.
THAT WAS A TEAM EFFORT BY THE WAY.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING AUTISM AWARENESS AND CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH.
IT IS ALSO SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH, SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING YOU RECOGNIZE THAT AS WELL.
HAVING WORKED IN THIS FIELD FOR OVER 27 YEARS AND HAVING SERVED ON THE BROWARD CHILD ABUSE DEATH REVIEW COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS A PAST PRESIDENT OF BROWARD DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COUNSEL, AND NOW LEADING A MINISTRY THAT OFFERS HELP, HOPE, AND HEALING TO THOSE WHO SUFFER, WE NEED MORE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THESE ISSUES TO MAKE SYSTEMIC CHANGE AND SAVE LIVES.
I WANT TO ADDRESS HOW GUEST ATTORNEYS PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF THEIR CLIENTS TREAT THE CITIZENS OF TAMARAC.
I HAVE WATCHED THE LAST TWO ATTORNEYS DISPLAY RUDE BEHAVIORS TOWARD CITIZENS, INCLUDING CONDESCENSION, BELITTLING, AND RIDICULE.
IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE, AND I WOULD ASK THIS COMMISSION TO STAND UP FOR YOUR CITIZENS AND REMIND THOSE ATTORNEYS WE ARE THE PEOPLE THEY ARE ASKING TO SERVE, SO WE DESERVE RESPECT.
SINCE THIS COMMISSION IS RIGHTLY CONCERNED WITH SAVING MONEY FOR THE TAXPAYERS, I AM ASKING THIS COMMISSION TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO INVESTIGATE HOW MUCH MONEY TAMARAC CITY HIRED INSIDE COUNSEL RATHER THAN AN OUTSIDE FIRM.
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WE COULD HIRE AN ATTORNEY, A PARALEGAL, AN ASSISTANT, AND PAY EXPENSES FOR LESS THAN THE BUDGETED ATTORNEY FEES OF 600,000 A YEAR, NOT INCLUDING BILLALBLES.
IT COST NORTH MIAMI BEACH OVER $2.2 MILLION FOR LESS THAN TWO YEARS OF SERVICE BY AN OUTLAW.
WE DO NOT WANT TO END UP IN THAT SAME SITUATION.
PLEASE, WHILE WE ARE INVESTIGATING SOUGHT COST SAVING EFFORTS, LET'S INVESTIGATE HOW MUCH IT WOULD SAVE THE CITY TO HIRE ITS OWN ATTORNEY AND STAFF, AND PERFORM A CITY ATTORNEY COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
REGARDING CAR ALLOWANCES AND PHONE ALLOWANCES, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT, AND I KNOW THAT MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE VOICED VERBALLY IN THEIR CAMPAIGNS THAT THEY WOULD AGREE TO CUT THE $700.
HERE'S THE TIME TO FILL YOUR CAMPAIGN COMMITMENT.
YOU ALREADY HAVE $50,000 BUDGETED FOR TRAVEL.
SUBMIT A RECEIPT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
AS FAR AS CELL PHONES, WHICH IS ALSO GOING TO BE DISCUSSED, I THINK PHONES ARE AN ESSENTIAL FOR ANY PUBLIC SERVANT TO HAVE.
I AM NOT AGAINST AN ALLOWANCE FOR CELL PHONES AS LONG AS IT IS APPROPRIATE.
BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER IF THE CITY BUYS THE PHONE AND PAYS THE BILL RATHER THAN GIVING AN ALLOWANCE.
I ALSO QUESTIONED 15 COMMUNITY LIAISONS IN OUR BUDGET.
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FIFTEEN FOR A CITY 12 MILES? THAT'S ABSURD.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAROL MENDELSSOHN.
>> CAROL MENDELSSOHN, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE THIS COMMISSION MANY TIMES ONLY TO RECEIVE THE SAME RESPONSE.
NOTHING, NOT A FOLLOW-UP, NOT A CALL, NOTHING.
PLEASE DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN TONIGHT.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 72,000 RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC 27 PERCENT ARE SENIORS, ACCORDING TO THE MOST RECENT CENSUS REPORT, 36 PERCENT OF THESE SENIORS LIVE ALONE, AND 78 PERCENT OF THOSE ARE FEMALE.
IN A NEARBY CITY A CALL WENT OUT FOR AN EMERGENCY.
POLICE AND EMS HAD TO WAIT A HALF HOUR UNTIL ABLE TO GET A KEY TO GET IN, LIFESAVING MINUTES LOST.
I REACHED OUT TO JONATHAN FRASHER, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF IN TAMARAC, WHO ASSISTED ME IN ADDRESSING A LIFESAVING OPTION.
TAMARAC FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ITS APP, TAMARACFIRERESCUE DOT ORG.
I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS LIFESAVING TOOL AVAILABLE ON THE APP.
I PURCHASED THE DIGITAL LOCKBOX FOR MY FRONT DOOR FOR LESS THAN 30 DOLLARS.
WHILE NEIGHBORS HAVE THE KEY, THEY MAY NOT BE HOME IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.
WITH THE APP ON A CELL PHONE, ANY RESIDENT CAN INPUT THE LOCKBOX CODE AND ALL CRITICAL INFORMATION.
MOST RESIDENTS DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THIS LIFESAVING TOOL EXISTS.
THE MOMENT EMS IS DISPATCHED TO THAT LOCATION, THEY RECEIVE THE LOCKBOX CODE ENABLING THEM TO IMMEDIATELY OPEN THE DIGITAL LOCKBOX AND GET THE KEY TO ANSWER.
ADDITIONAL SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS CAN BE INPUT.
THIS COMMISSION CAN BE THE PIONEERS IN THIS INITIATIVE THROUGH OUR CITY.
ALL RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF AGE CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS LIFESAVING TOOL.
OTHER CITIES WILL LOOK TO YOU TO EMULATE THIS INITIATIVE.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH RESIDENTS AND VARIOUS DEVELOPMENTS WHO ARE EAGER TO HAVE WORKSHOPS TO ASSIST IN ACCESSING THE APP AND INPUTTING THIS CRITICAL INFORMATION.
FIRE RESCUE HAS THE KNOX BOX TO ENTER GATED DEVELOPMENTS.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY CANNOT ACCESS THE APARTMENTS WHERE THE EMERGENCY EXISTS? THIS CAN BE INITIATED SEVERAL WAYS, REALLOCATE FUNDS FROM THE 10.8 MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE AMERICAN RELIEF PLAN.
IF YOU CUT YOUR CAR ALLOWANCE IN HALF, THAT'S 21,000 DOLLARS FOR 700 DIGITAL LOCK BOXES, SET UP A 50, 50 PROGRAM FOR HALF THE CAR ALLOWANCE THAT WOULD PROVIDE 1,400 DIGITAL LOCK BOXES.
CUT 120 DOLLARS FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISONS.
PLEASE SHARE THIS INFORMATION THROUGH TAMAGRAM.
IT'S AN INEXPENSIVE TOOL THAT SAVE LIVES.
SPECIAL THANKS TO TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE FOR THIS AVAILABILITY.
ANOTHER REASON TO KEEP THE DEPARTMENT WITHIN OUR MUNICIPALITY. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. ACTUALLY COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN BEING MADE AWARE BY TAMARAC FIRE RESCUE OF THE KNOCK BOXES, SO IT IS READY IS SOMETHING IN THE WORKS ON SOME PLANS OF IT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? MR. WASSERMAN.
>> I'M SORRY FOR MOVING SO SLOWLY.
I LIVE AT 8577J DRIVE IN TAMARAC.
MADAM MAYOR, I'M GOING TO DIRECT MY COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO YOU.
THE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY FOR ME TODAY AND EVERY DAY MOVING FORWARD IS TO SPEAK ABOUT CANCER.
I'M SPEAKING ABOUT BREAST CANCER, AND I'M SPEAKING ABOUT COLON CANCER.
FOR YOU MEN WHO LIKE TO LET IT RIDE, YOU ARE SO WRONG.
PLEASE PROTECT YOURSELVES, PLEASE.
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WHEN I WAS GROWING UP AS A KID, MY FAMILY TAUGHT ME A LOT ABOUT RESPECT AND WHEN I DIDN'T HAVE ANY, THEY SEND ME TO MILITARY HIGH SCHOOL.I SPENT FIVE YEARS AT FLORIDA AIR ACADEMY HERE IN MELBOURNE.
WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK FOR IT TONIGHT, YOU ALL SHOULD LOOK INWARD AT AN INCIDENT JUST RECENTLY I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT.
PEOPLE SAID I WAS WRONG BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CITY EMPLOYEE BULLY OR TALK BACK TO PEOPLE, IT'S SO WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN TO YOU? FORGIVE ME FOR MY VOICE GETTING LOUD, I'M ALSO A CERTIFIED AUCTIONEER.
MANY OF YOU SITTING HERE, SITTING IN THE BACK WHO HAVE USED YOUR POWER, THE LITTLE BIT OF POWER THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAN ON MY COMMUNITY, TODAY IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WE CRIED ABOUT WATER.
WE CRIED ABOUT THE RUNOFF, WE WERE JUDGED TO BE TROUBLEMAKERS, ESPECIALLY ME.
I WENT TO THE CITY, I WENT TO THE COUNTY, I WENT TO THE STATE.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO JUDGE US, SHAME ON YOU.
YOU HAVE USED MANY TOOLS AGAINST US, A SMALL COMMUNITY, AND I'LL KEEP ON REPEATING IT.
RON, WHY DO YOU KEEP ON BRINGING THIS UP? BECAUSE IT KEEPS ON HAPPENING.
CAPTAIN COOPER, CONGRATULATIONS ON BSO.
>> THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? NO? CAN I GET HOME SAFELY? SEEING NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED OR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS NOW CLOSED AND WE WILL NOW GO TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
[4. CONSENT AGENDA]
CITY MANAGER, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA?>> ALL RIGHT. SEEING THAT THERE'S NO REQUESTS FROM THE COMMISSION TO PULL AN ITEM, I'LL ASK FOR A SECOND, PLEASE.
>> CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER DANIEL?
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
>> THANK YOU. MOVING NOW TO ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING, WE HAVE FEW.
AS MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THIS TIME.
CITY ATTORNEY, WILL YOU PLEASE READ 6ATO2527?
[6.a TO2527 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida; amending Chapter 16, Pensions and Retirement, Article IX, Elected and Appointed Officers and Non-Represented Employees' Retirement Plan; amending Section16.905, Service Retirement Benefits; Cost of Living Adjustment; DisabilityRetirement; providing for a savings clause; providing for severability; providing for codification and providing for an effective date.]
>> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. ITEM 6A IS A ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION IN CITY TAMARAC, FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 16, PENSIONS AND RETIREMENT, ARTICLE 9 ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICERS AND NON-REPRESENTATIVE EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT PLANNING.
AMENDING SECTION 16.905, SERVICE RETIREMENT BENEFITS, COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, DISABILITY RETIREMENT, PROVIDING FOR A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR A SEPARABILITY, PROVIDING FOR QUALIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION AND SECOND.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS AND A SECOND BY THE VICE MAYOR.
MR. CALHOUN OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
SEEING NO QUESTIONS, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS?
>>THANK YOU, MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> EXCELLENT. 6B202499 CITY ATTORNEY,
[6.b TO2499 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida amending Chapter 14, “Motor Vehicles and Traffic”, Article II, “Stopping, Standingand Parking”, Section 14-26, “Parking Restrictions—Public Rights-of-Way”, byamending Subsections 14-26(A) and creating Subsection 14-26(C) of the City ofTamarac Code of Ordinances, to provide for consistent and general parking restrictions, applicable citywide; and amending Section 14-37 entitled “ParkingViolation Enforcement” to provide for a public education period prior to enforcementand parking enforcement specialists in accordance with Florida Statutes 316.640;providing for conflicts; providing for severability; providing for codification; and providing for an effective date.]
PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> ITEMS 6B IS ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSIONER CITY TAMARAC, FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 14 MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC ARTICLE 2 STOP AND STANDING AND PARKING SECTION 14-26, PARKING RESTRICTIONS, RIGHTS AWAY BY AMENDMENT SUBSECTION 14-26A, SUBSECTION 14-26C OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCES
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PROVIDE FOR CONSISTENCY AND GENERAL PARKING RESTRICTIONS, APPLICABLE CITYWIDE.AMENDMENTS SECTION 14-37 ENTITLED PARKING VIOLATION ENFORCEMENT TO PROVIDE FOR A PUBLIC EDUCATION PERIOD PRIOR TO ENFORCEMENT AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT SPECIALISTS IN ACCORDANCE TO FLORIDA STATUTE 316.640 [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I NEED A MOTION TO SECOND, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY THE VICE MAYOR, I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS AND MS. CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, IS AVAILABLE FOR MAKING A PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW. ARE YOU MAKING ONE OR.
>> THEN BOTH MS. CALLOWAY AND THE CAPTAIN ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THEREAFTER.
>> I PROMISE IT'S NOT TOO LONG OF A PRESENTATION.
IT'S MAXINE CALLOWAY, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I'LL BE WALKING YOU THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR THE PARKING ORDINANCE.
BUT FIRST, I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU SOME QUICK BACKGROUND.
THIS HAS BEEN A SOURCE OF DISCUSSION FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL QUALITY OF LIFE ORDINANCES THAT STAFF HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO BRING FORWARD AS A PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.
THIS PARKING ORDINANCE, HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS SINCE 2020.
DURING THAT TIME, I THINK IT CAME OUT OF A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, STAFF WAS ASKED TO BRING THAT LEGISLATION REPEALING THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS AT THE TIME EXISTING IN THE CODE CURRENTLY BECAUSE IT WAS JUST NOT BEING ENFORCED.
THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT DOES NOT ALLOW PARKING ON ANY PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM 2:00 AM TO 5:00 AM.
WE BROUGHT THE LEGISLATION FORWARD IN MAY 2020, THIS WAS DURING COVID.
IT WAS A VIRTUAL MEETING AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE THAT THE ITEM BE POSTPONE TO ALLOW PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WHEN WE WERE BACK IN FACE-TO-FACE HEARING.
SO THE ITEM WAS BROUGHT BACK AGAIN ON MAY 2022, AT THAT TIME, ONCE AGAIN, TO REPEAL THE LANGUAGE AND TO REPLACE IT WITH LANGUAGE THAT WE FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IF PARKING IS IMPEDING THE PASSAGE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND I THINK THAT'S THE LANGUAGE WE HAD AT THE TIME THAT FAILED IN MAY 2022 AND SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WERE GIVEN AT THAT MEETING FOR STAFF TO INCORPORATE INTO THE ORDINANCE, WHICH WE WILL SEE THIS EVENING.
THEN AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 27, 2023, DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, IT WAS REITERATED THAT STAFF SHOULD WORK ON BRINGING FORWARD THIS LEGISLATION, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
WE'LL WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE RESEARCH.
WE WENT AHEAD AND UPDATED OUR RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE IN 2020 RELATIVE TO PARK IN AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
AT THE TIME, OF COURSE, WHEN STAFF CONDUCTED THE RESEARCH, WE DETERMINED THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN AMENDED TONIGHT WAS ADOPTED IN 1975.
OF COURSE, IT DOES NOT ALIGN, AT LEAST WE DON'T BELIEVE WITH THE EXISTING BUILT ENVIRONMENT AS IT'S WRITTEN, AND WE KNOW SINCE THAT TIME THE ORDINANCE WAS NOT BEING ENFORCED.
I THINK BE IT SO IT'S NOT ENFORCED IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME IN YEARS.
IN 2021 THE ORDINANCE WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO REPEAL THE REPLACEMENT LANGUAGE THAT WAS RECOMMENDED WAS THAT PARKING WOULD BE ALLOWED.
HOWEVER, IF IT'S IMPEDE THE FREE FLOW OF TRAFFIC OR INTERFERE WITH THE PASSAGE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THEN THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION.
IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WE'VE FOUND THAT FOR EXAMPLE THE CITY OF PARKLAND ALLOWS PARKING ON THE STREETS THAT ARE RESERVED FOR MARKED OR MARKED BY SIGNAGE FOR PARKING PURPOSES.
WE LOOKED AT MIRAMAR, THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT WE SEE IN MOST PLACES.
THAT AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT IMPEDE THE FREE FLOW OF TRAFFIC OR INTERFERE WITH THE PASSAGE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT WE FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE RECOMMENDED IN 2020.
TAMARAC LANGUAGE, WHICH IS THERE FOR YOU TO SEE.
THEN WE FOUND THAT IN LAUDERHILL MOST RECENTLY THEY UPDATED THEIR CODE AND THEY PROVIDE FOR SOME PARKING IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:00 PM AND 7:00 AM ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
IN THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS THERE'S NO REAL PROHIBITION.
IT ALLOWS FOR PARKING PROVIDING OF COURSE, THAT IT IS MARKED AND THERE'S SIGNAGE.
WE FOUND IN THE CITY OF SUNRISE THAT THEY ALLOW PARKING ON THE SWALE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
IN NORTH LAUDERDALE, THEIR LEGISLATION WAS MOST RECENTLY UPDATED IN 2021 WITH THE SAME LANGUAGE PROVIDED IT DOES NOT OBSTRUCT THE FREE, CONVENIENT, AND NORMAL USE OF PUBLIC STREET.
OAKLAND PARK'S LANGUAGE IS SPECIFIC TO THE SALE OF
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MOTOR VEHICLES OR THE DISPLAY OF ADVERTISEMENT OR SELLING OF MERCHANDISE AND STORAGE, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED.FORT LAUDERDALE IS LANGUAGE IS SIMILAR TO OURS FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS THE SAME TYPE OF NON-ENFORCEMENT THAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
THE TOWN OF DAVIE, IT'S SIMILAR TO OAKLAND PARK.
THEN LAUDERDALE LAKES, I BELIEVE IS THE LAST ONE MOST RECENTLY UPDATED AS WELL, AND THEY HAVE THE DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH FREE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
AS IT RELATES TO THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AND WHAT WAS DIRECTED OF STAFF, WHAT IS UNDERLYING IS A NEW LANGUAGE IN SECTION 14-26.
WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THAT THE 2:00 AM IS STRICKEN AND AND REPLACED WITH 11:00 PM, SO THAT WOULD ALLOW NO PARKING ON PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY ANYWHERE IN THE CITY BEGINNING AT 11:00 PM TO 6:00 AM.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WERE DIRECTED TO INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE AS IT RELATES TO MOTOR VEHICLES BLOCKING DEDICATED BICYCLE LANES AND BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS.
THAT IS ADDED AS C AND UNDERLINED.
IN ADDITION, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AND THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM IN PLACE AND PROPER RESOURCE, WE'RE ADDING THE LANGUAGE THAT'S UNDERLINED TO ALLOW CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, FIRE RESCUE OFFICER TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE PROVIDED, OF COURSE, THAT THEY RECEIVED THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT TRAINING, WHICH IS GOVERNED BY STATE STATUTE, SO THEY ARE ABLE THEN TO ENFORCE PARKING.
THAT'S UNDERLINED IN GREEN AND ADDED SUB-SECTION B.
FINALLY, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, WE'RE ADDING SUB-SECTION D THAT PROVIDES FOR SIX MONTHS OF PUBLIC EDUCATION PRIOR TO ENFORCEMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO MARKET THIS LEGISLATION, MAKE THE COMMUNITY AWARE THAT THIS IS A NEW LAW IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND THEN AFTER THE SIX MONTHS OF PUBLIC EDUCATION, THAT'S WHEN THE ORDINANCE THEN WILL BEGIN BEING ENFORCED.
AS INCLUDED IN THE MEMO WE HAVE DETERMINED TO HIGHER NIGHTTIME CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THIS IS THE FISCAL IMPACT.
IT WOULD COST THE CITY BETWEEN $72 AND $77,000 SHOULD THIS ORDINANCE BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS THE CHIEF.
>> GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
>> CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THIS IS LOOK LIKE WHEN A RESIDENT IS BLOCKING THE FREE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
>> THE TYPICAL LANGUAGE THAT WE SEE IS IF EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE NOT ABLE TO GET PAST, AND SO IT'S BSO, IT'S YOUR FIRE RESCUE AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GEARED TOWARDS.
>> CAN THE CHIEF OR CAPTAIN LET US KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM.
>> I THINK WITH BSO, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT HAS NOT BEEN A PROBLEM FOR BSO.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THROUGH ALL RIGHT BOTH WAYS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY IN THE CITY.
>> CHIEF ANNESE. GOOD EVENING.
WE HAVE NOT HAD EXPERIENCED ANY ISSUES AS WELL WITH THAT.
WHEN WE DO USUALLY WE DO NOTIFY BSO AND IT GETS MOVED, BUT IT'S VERY RARE THAT IT DOES OCCUR.
>> I JUST WANT TO ADD TO COMMISSIONER DANIEL'S COMMENT.
WHAT ABOUT WASTE MANAGEMENT DELIVERY TRUCKS? I KNOW WASTE MANAGEMENT HATES WHEN PEOPLE BLOCK.
IT'S THEIR BIG TRUCKS, SMALL ROADS, DO WE HAVE THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF TROY CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS, I KNOW YOU MANAGE CONTRACT FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT RELATIVE TO THEIR INABILITY TO.
>> SORRY, GUYS. ACTING ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICES.
YES, IT TENDS TO BE THE SAME AREAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COLDEST SACKS, THOSE SMALL NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THAT, EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
UNFORTUNATELY WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT IS IF WASTE MANAGEMENT CAN'T GET THROUGH AN AREA, THEN THAT AREA IS UNSURFACED AND TELLING THE LESS THE TRUCKS CAN GET THROUGH THAT.
>> THE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS 11:00 PM SEEMS TO BE TOO LATE.
MOST PEOPLE ARE ALREADY HOME SLEEPING THEY DON'T WAKE UP PRIOR TO MAYBE 6:00 AM I KNOW VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT WAKE UP THAT EARLY, SO IS 11:00 PM.
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>> IN MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE EARLIER.
>> NO, BECAUSE I'M THINKING AND I GUESS BSO IS DIFFERENT.
BUT FOR ME, BSO IS AT MY HOUSE BEFORE 8:00 AM NOT BE A SOUL, JESUS, I APOLOGIZE.
WASTE MANAGEMENT [LAUGHTER] SO I WOULD THINK IF WASTE MANAGEMENT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT'S EFFECTIVE THEY'RE THERE NOT AT 11:00 PM, THEY'RE THERE EARLY IN THE MORNING BECAUSE THEY GO HOME TOO.
>> THEIR TIMES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE, AND SO THEY CAN OPERATE BETWEEN 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM.
>> MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 11:00 PM AND 2:00 AM? WHY THE ADJUSTMENT BETWEEN THOSE TIMEFRAME?
>> IN MAY OF I THINK IT WAS IN THE LAST TIME IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD.
MAY 2022 IS WHEN THE DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT.
THERE WAS A CONSENSUS ON THE COMMISSION THAT ASKED FOR THE TIME TO BE MOVED FROM 2:00 AM TO 11:00 PM TO BE EARLIER AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS CHANGE REFLECTS.
IT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SCREAMING FOR.
AND IT HAS BEEN NOT JUST A TWO-YEAR BATTLE OR A THREE-YEAR BATTLE, IT HAS BEEN A BATTLE LONG BEFORE 12 YEARS OF ME BEING ON THIS COMMISSION.
WE HAVE HAD IT AS NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS AND IT AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS, OR WHO ARE BLOCKED, OR PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING BY THE STOP SIGN AND THEY CAN'T SEE AS THEY GO AROUND IT, OR PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING AND BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE DO HAVE A FEW OF THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE AND THEY CAN'T WALK DOWN THE STREET AND WHILE IT IS ALL GOOD AND WELL TO COMPARE TO START IN OTHER CITIES, THOSE CITIES HAVE STREETS THAT ARE WIDER THAN OUR CITY.
WHILE I DO LIKE THE COMPARISON ON CERTAIN THINGS, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE'RE DOING APPLES AND APPLES AND IF WE'RE DOING APPLES, WE'RE NOT DOING FUJI, WERE DOING FUJI TO WASHINGTON.
WE'RE NOT DOING THE SAME COMPARISON, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS AND I'M NOT MEANING TO SOUND A LITTLE FRUSTRATED, BUT I AM.
BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION HAS LISTENED TO THE RESONANCE, AND WE HAVE BROUGHT IT BACK HERE TONIGHT.
WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE AND THEY'RE NOT SPEAKING TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.
IT'S FIRST READING AND THEY WILL BE PREPARED TO BE BACK HERE ON SECOND READING BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS.
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THE ONLY ONES HAVING TO WIDEN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
WE COMPLAIN ABOUT TOO MANY PEOPLE MOVING INTO HOMES AND THE NOISE ORDINANCES AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE.
BUT IT'S OKAY TO JUST SAY, FINE, PUT 20 PEOPLE IN YOUR HOUSE AND ALL THEIR CARS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS WILL STOP AND THIS WILL ALSO HAVE BETTER ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO TALK TO THEIR COMMUNITIES AND SAY, I'M GOING TO PARK MY EXTRA CAR IN THE ASSOCIATION PARKING LOT, MAY I? ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO ASK YOU AS AN EXCEPTION IN A PROCEDURAL EXCEPTION TO BE GONE THROUGH CITY MANAGER AND OUR ATTORNEY, IF THE COMMISSION APPROVES IT, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE A SUPER BOWL PARTY.
THEY MIGHT HAVE A PARTY HERE, OR IT MIGHT BE NEW YEAR'S EVE AND THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME PROCEDURE THAT WOULD REQUIRE I'M IN MY HOME AND I WANT TO HAVE SOME EXTRA PEOPLE.
I'M GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE BLOCKING.
I'M GOING TO GO TO MY ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.
I'M GOING TO FILL OUT THIS FORM AND SAY PLEASE APPROVE IT AND SEND IT OFF TO ARE NOW DESIGNATED CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR PERSON AND THEY WILL KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ENFORCEMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR NIGHT IN THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY BEFORE TWELVE O'CLOCK.
I'M JUST TOUCHING REALLY QUICKLY ON SOME OF THE ISSUES BECAUSE AS I SAID, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH AND THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN BEGGING FOR SOME HELP AND WE FINALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT.
WHICH THEN WHEN WE HAVE THIS PERSON TO ENFORCE IT, THEY SHOULD ALSO BE ENFORCING THE NO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS WHICH IT WENT IN, I GUESS CAPTAIN COOPER WILL BE HAPPY THAT I WASN'T ON THE RIGHT ALONG.
WHEN HE WAS CAPTAIN, I WENT AROUND AND WE PUT 17 TICKETS OUT WITH ONE OF THE OFFICERS.
BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ASK FOR, SO THE COMMISSION DID A POLICY AND THEN WE JUST IGNORED IT.
THEN THE PEOPLE WHO ASKED FOR IT ARE LIKE, WELL, WHY DID WE HAVE A RULE PUT IN PLACE IF WE'RE GOING TO IGNORE IT? WE ALL HAVE GUIDELINES TO FOLLOW AND WHEN PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW IT, IS NOT TRYING TO PUNISH PEOPLE, BUT IT'S TRYING TO SAY, LOOK, BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
EVERYONE ELSE IS FOLLOWING THE RULES, PLEASE FOLLOW IT TOO.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE SOME PEOPLE JUST SEEM TO HAVE NOT CARED AND IT IS AFFECTING OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS,
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AND THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.THIS IS, AS I SAID, A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING AND I AM HOPING THAT THIS COMMISSION WILL MOVE IT FORWARD TO SECOND READING.
YOU CAN HEAR IT ALL FROM OUR RESIDENTS WITH THE ONE CAVEAT OF WHAT TO DO IF THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXCEPTION AND IF YOU'RE IN A COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN ASSOCIATION, THERE WOULD BE A ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY PUT IN PLACE BY THE CITY ADMINISTRATION ON HOW TO HANDLE THAT. COMMISSIONER DANIEL.
>> I WAS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WHO HAD TO WIDEN HER DRIVEWAY BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE CARS, MY HUSBAND HAS A WORK VEHICLE.
I GET IT AND NOW I WAS TOTALLY GOING-HO FOR THIS, ESPECIALLY IN A STRATEGIC PLANNING WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
HOWEVER, NOW THAT SOME RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE OLDER HOMES THAT HAVE NO GARAGE OR ONE PORT, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THEM AS WELL? THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT BEING ANNOYING, LIKE YOU SHOULD RESPECTFULLY, YOU SHOULD NOT PARK IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY DRIVER; THAT'S JUST DISRESPECTFUL SO YEAH I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD GET A TICKET.
BUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE RESIDENT WHO TRULY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER MEANS BUT PARKING ON THE STREET? CAN WE MAKE CERTAIN RULES IN PLACE THAT THEY ONLY PARK CERTAIN PLACES OR? FOR ME, IT WORKS.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES THAT AREN'T LIKE OURS?
>> IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO JUST JUMP IN BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TOUCHED ON THAT WAS GOING TO BE CHANGED WAS TO NOW ALLOW OUR ASSOCIATIONS THE ABILITY TO ALLOW PARKING OVERNIGHT.
WE HAD HAD THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF THIS STUFF WAS GOING FORWARD WITH A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PUT THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION IN AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TO PUT A RULE IN PLACE.
>> NOW WE'RE PENALIZING PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY CAN'T AFFORD TO GET A BIGGER HOUSE WITH MORE PARKING SPACE.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM MONEY FOR PARKING THEIR CAR THAT'S PROBABLY THEIR LIVELIHOOD AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE RESIDENTS WHO MADE ME AWARE OF THAT, THAT I WOULDN'T BE SELFISH AND JUST WANT TO FIX MY PROBLEM.
WHAT WOULD WE DO FOR THOSE RESIDENTS?
>> BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS TO NOW BECAUSE WE RESTRICTED THE ABILITY OF THE ASSOCIATIONS TO ALLOW OVERNIGHT PARKING IN THEIR ASSOCIATION PARKING LOT, AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN MADE TO THIS ORDINANCE AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE I FAILED TO SEE THAT.
>> EVEN MY ASSOCIATION, WE DO NOT HAVE HOA PARKING LOT.
THERE'S NOT A DESIGNATED EXTRA PARKING, SO THERE'S SOME THAT DON'T HAVE THAT.
>> THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A BALANCE AT THE SAME TOKEN.
IT'S PART OF THE SITUATION MOST HOMES HAVE A GARAGE.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GARAGE.
THEY'VE CAR PORTS, THAT'S WHERE THE CAR IS SUPPOSED.
>> IN THIS DAY AND AGE, WE NEED TO BE A SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARDS BEING WHERE WE CAN HAVE MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND NOT HAVE A NEED FOR ALL THESE CARS.
BUT CURRENTLY, THESE PEOPLE HAVE NEEDS FOR THEIR CARS.
>> TRUE. BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, SOME OF THEM HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT TO SEE WHAT ARE THEY STORING IN THEIR CARPORT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, THERE'S A BALANCE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S A BALANCE, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE STORING OLD CARS NOT BEING USED OR THEY'RE STORING STUFF AND NOT A CAR AND THAT'S WHY THEIR CARS ARE ON THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS CAUSING THE ISSUE WITH THE COMMUNITIES.
>> ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I'M SURE THESE SAME COMMUNITY ARE HAVING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ABUSING IT.
HOW DO YOU BALANCE ALL OF THAT SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, WON'T BE PENALIZED?
>> COMES TO EDUCATION. GO AHEAD, MAXINE I KNOW YOU WANT.
>> ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I SHOWED SOME OF THE RESEARCH WE DID WAS JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING AND PERHAPS THAT COULD HELP US TO SHAPE HOW THIS LEGISLATION.
DEPENDENT ON WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE INCLUDED, THIS IS THE TIME TO DIRECT ME TO MAKE SOME EXCEPTIONS IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE ENTIRE COMMISSION OR A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION.
FOR EXAMPLE, SUNRISE, THEY HAVE PARKING ON THE SWALE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALLOWED THAT'S ADJACENT.
THEY HAVE IT DESCRIBE IT HAS TO BE PARALLEL PARK IN SUCH A WAY IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE THEN.
>> I APOLOGIZE, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS SO COULD YOU GUYS COME UP WITH THE BEST ANSWER BUT I DON'T?.
>> I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE OR ANYTHING JUST.
>> WE'RE NOT BEING STRUCTURED TONIGHT, MY APOLOGIES.
>> THERE'S NO STRUCTURE WITH THE SPEAKING ON THIS.
WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE LENGTHS OF THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING.
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WHY WASN'T THIS BROUGHT UP PRIOR? IS MY QUESTION.>> ELVIN, WE WERE NEW SO WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH LAND AT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING.
>> THIS IS PART OF SOMETIMES WHEN IT IS VERY DIFFICULT WHEN THERE'S WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE PRIOR TO COMING ON AND A FLOW OF THINGS THAT START TO GO ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVING A SHIFT BACK ON SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
QUITE HONESTLY, MS. CALLOWAY, I HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT NAUSEAM AND WE'VE DISCUSSED WHY THE SWELLS WAS NOT GOOD BECAUSE SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS ON THERE AND THEY DON'T ALLOW IT.
THEN WE WOULD BE WINDING UP PUTTING IN RULES AND REGULATIONS IN EFFECT THAT ARE NOT DOING THE JOB IN WHICH WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO.
I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE SLIDING, NOT IN THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE SLIDING.
WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION, THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR IT.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO ADJUST THEM LEFT TO FIGURE IT OUT.
THEY'RE USUALLY EXCEPTIONS OF SOME KIND.
BUT THAT WE CAN WORK IT THROUGH AFTERWARDS.
BUT TO NOW SEEMINGLY SIT HERE AND FEEL LIKE WE'RE WORKSHOPPING IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
TO START ALL OVER AGAIN IS A LITTLE BIT, I'LL TAKE THAT WORD FROM TOO MUCH FROM THE AUDIENCE, BUT IT DOESN'T FEEL PROGRESSIVE.
>> YEAH. WE WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THAT WORKSHOP.
I ALSO SUPPORT WHAT DR. DANIELS IS SAYING.
THESE COMMUNITIES ARE BUILT BREADS RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES MANY YEARS AGO AND NOW WE HAVE MULTI-GENERATION FAMILIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE HAVING KIDS, GRANDKIDS, PEOPLE WITH CARS.
WE GOT TO FIND A BALANCE OF UNDERSTANDING THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
I GET YOUR POINT BASED ON ASSOCIATION AND PUT THEM IN AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT A WORKING-CLASS PERSON WAKES UP IN THE MORNING AND THEY GET A TICKET THAT COST THEM MONEY, THE CAR IS TORN, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY THAT BALANCE THE CHANGE IN COMMUNITY.
WHILE WE'RE NEW AND WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS, WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO ALL THIS STUFF FROM BEFORE.
IT'S JUST FAIR THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDING IT, A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, AND MAKE THE CHANGES THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE FAIR FOR THE RESIDENTS.
MY FAMILY, MY COMMUNITY, WE NEED IT.
AN ORDINANCE FOR THE PARKING SITUATION.
HOWEVER, I JUST DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE THOSE WHO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PARK.
>> THE THING HERE FOR TONIGHT IS THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE MULTI-FAMILY GENERATIONAL SITUATION.
PEOPLE KNOWING THE COMMUNITY AND WHICH THEY ARE MOVING INTO, AND THAT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S NEEDS.
THAT'S WHY CERTAIN PEOPLE I TOO HOW TO EXPAND MY DRIVEWAY AND ACTUALLY I WAS SUPPOSED TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE IF I WANTED TO EXPAND IT EVEN AN INCH MORE, EVEN THOUGH EVERYBODY AROUND ME HAD MUCH LARGER DRIVEWAYS.
TRUST ME, I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT.
BUT EVERY TIME WE PLACE SOMETHING IN PROGRESS, IT IS THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY AND SOMETIMES ONE OR TWO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES WITH IT.
WE WILL NEVER FIND THE MOST HAPPY BALANCE FOR EVERYTHING.
NOT TO SAY THAT WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES, IF THERE ARE ISSUES THAT ARISE THAT WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO COMPROMISE AND COME UP WITH A SITUATION.
YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT A PERSON WHO CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEIR ASSOCIATION.
IF THEY'RE ASSOCIATION DOESN'T HAVE A PLACE, MAYBE A NEIGHBOR HAS A YARD.
MAYBE THERE'S A PERSON WHO IS OUT OF TOWN SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR AND NEEDS SOMEBODY TO PARK IN THEIR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE SOMEBODY'S HOME.
THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION AND FIGURING SOMETHING OUT, BUT TO HOLD AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN LONG IN THE MAKING THROUGH MANY CONVERSATIONS TO TAKE INTO ALL THE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION TO NOT HAVE IT MOVE FORWARD.
THERE WAS A SECOND READING WHERE YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE RESONANCE BE ABLE TO COME AND TALK ABOUT IT.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST NOT PROGRESS.
>> OKAY. THAT BEING SAID BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN PROGRESS BUT ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE RASH.
THE PEOPLE WHO DID VOICE THEIR CONCERNS, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN MINE TONIGHT.
HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THEM? I HAVE THREE CAR I HAVE ONE CARPORT I PARKED ON THE STREET.
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HOW WILL THAT IMPACT THAT PARTICULAR RESIDENT?>> IF YOU'RE PARKED ON THE STREET AT 11:00 PM THEN YOU WILL RECEIVE A TICKET AFTER THE SIX MONTHS EDUCATIONAL PERIOD.
IF YOU CONTINUE TO PARK ON THE STREET AFTER 11:00 PM YOU WILL RECEIVE A TICKET AS IT IS NOW, IT WILL BE $21.
THAT WILL BE PROCESS AT THE CIRCUIT COURT.
THEN IF THE TICKET IS NOT PAID, THEN YOU'RE UNABLE TO RENEW YOUR REGISTRATION, BUT YOU WILL BE GIVEN A TICKET IF YOU CONTINUE TO PARK ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AFTER 11:00 PM UNLESS THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS CARVED OUT.
BUT WHAT'S PROPOSED ALLOWS US, AFTER SIX MONTHS TO COMMENCE WRITING TICKETS TO ANY VEHICLE THAT'S PARKED ANYWHERE IN THE CITY ON THE RIGHT AWAY, WHETHER YOU'RE BLOCKING THE DRIVEWAY OR BLOCKING A BICYCLE PATH, IF YOU'RE PARKED ON THE STREET AFTER 11:00 PM, YOU WILL BE TICKETED.
>> GOT YOU. I UNDERSTAND THE BICYCLE PATH RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE ANY WAY BEFORE IT GOES TO THE SECOND READING? CAN WE SOMEHOW GET THE HOAS INVOLVED AND SEE, I KNOW THAT WAS SAID, BUT SOME DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
GIVE THEM OPTIONS MAYBE FOR PARTICULAR COMMUNITY SINCE IT'S RESIDENTIAL.
BECAUSE EACH COMMUNITY SITUATION MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.
>> THE PART OF THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, WE CAN EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS ON THE BOOK AND WILL BE EFFECTIVE AND WILL BE ENFORCED AT THIS TIME CERTAIN, HOWEVER, THE CITY DOES NOT GOVERN HOA.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIT DIFFICULT IN TERMS OF MANAGING.
>> OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT A CITY DOES NOT GOVERN HOA, BUT BECAUSE SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SO DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT, PUTTING ONE BLANKET LAW FOR EVERYONE.
THAT'S OUR LAW, IS THAT'S WHY IT TAKES 10 YEARS AND SO LONG TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES AND FACTORS.
I'M JUST NOT WILLING TO, AND I KNOW PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND.
BUT WHEN YOU TALK TO SOMEONE WHO LIVE IN A TWO-BEDROOM WITH THREE CARS, AND NO CARPORT AND THEY'RE YELLING AT YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE LITTLE MAN.
THEN, REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THEM AS WELL.
>> COMMISSIONER DANIEL. IF I MAY, ACTUALLY IS THINKING ABOUT THE LITTLE MAN THAT'S THINKING ABOUT ALL SIDES, MAN, WOMAN, CHILD, AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF WHICH HAS GONE INTO IT.
MAYBE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE PERSON OR PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING ISSUE, WE CAN HAVE THEM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, COME AND SPEAK WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, OR WE CAN FIGURE OUT, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK.
WE COULD DO SOMETHING ELSE TO FIGURE OUT ANY WORKAROUND AT THAT TIME.
BECAUSE IT'S ONLY GOING TO SECOND READING.
IN THAT SECOND READING, THERE COULD BE MORE COMMENTS.
>> WE CAN FIX THAT PROBLEM BEFORE.
>> YOU CAN. UNLESS IT'S A MAJOR MAJOR CHANGE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY IS NODDING.
YES. UNLESS IT'S A MAJOR CHANGE, THEN IT CAN BE FIXED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND WORKED ON ITS SECOND READING FOR APPROVAL.
IF IT'S A MAJOR MAJOR CHANGE BECAUSE THIS WAS APPROVED AT FIRST READING THE FIRST TIME FOR THE CHANGES.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS BECAUSE IT CHANGES AT THE FIRST READING LAST TIME WE WERE DOING THIS WERE MAJOR CHANGES.
IT CAME BACK TO US ON FIRST READING RATHER THAN THIS BEING SECOND.
IF WHAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED AT THE SECOND READING SHOULD WIND UP BEING SO MAJOR THEN IT WILL BE CONSIDERED CORRECT.
>> EITHER WAY, IT CAN BE FIXED.
>> CAN I JUST NARROW THE ISSUE JUST BASED ON MS. CALLOWAY'S PRESENTATION? BASICALLY, RIGHT NOW THE PROHIBITION FROM PARK IS 02:00 AM TO 06:00 AM.
THIS ORDINANCE BASICALLY IS PUSHING THE TIME BACK TO 11:00 PM TO 06:00 AM.
SO IT'S REALLY THAT TIME PERIOD FROM 11:00 AM TO 02:00 AM IS TO ISSUE VEHICLES FROM 06:01 AM TO 10:59 PM COULD POP ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
>> THEN THE BLOCKING OF BIKE LANES AND CORNERS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PUSH MY LUCK HERE ON EXTENDING THE CONVERSATION ANY FURTHER,
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BUT THE OTHER PART OF IT, I WAS ASKING IF THERE WOULD BE ANY EXCEPTION FOR HOLIDAYS, WEEKENDS, AND SPECIAL EVENTS THAT COULD BE PUT INTO A PROCEDURE IS WHAT I WAS ALSO ASKED HIM FOR.LET'S FIRST SEE IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE BASIC TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
THEN I'LL ASK IF THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR THE SECOND OR A VOTE FOR THE SECOND.
VICE MAYOR, YOU WISHING TO SPEAK OR WISHING TO VOTE?
>> MAYOR, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS NOW, MS. CALLOWAY, IS FROM 02:00 AM TO 06:00 A.M. ARE WE ENFORCING ON 02:00 AM TO 06:00 AM?
>> NO, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WITH BSO IT HAS NOT BEEN ENFORCED IN YEARS.
>> OKAY. MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION, CAPTAIN COOPER? WHY ARE WE NOT ENFORCING THIS.
IS TOO DIFFICULT OR WHAT'S THE REASONING?
>> TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS NOT VERY CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION ALLOWING US TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE.
>> IT'S NOT CLEAR DIRECTION AND ALSO BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE, THAT IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
IS IT A PROBLEM? YOU SAID THAT IN YOUR PRIOR TESTIMONY THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A PROBLEM BETWEEN 2 AND 6.
>> IT IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GET THROUGH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE LOCAL STREETS STATUS OUT AN ISSUE FOR US.
>> DO YOU FORESEE IT BEING A PROBLEM FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES BETWEEN 11 AND 6.
>> IT HAS NOT BEEN A PROBLEM THUS FAR.
I DON'T SEE IT PERCEIVE IT TO BE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. MS. CALLOWAY, BETWEEN 2:00 AM AND 6:00 AM ARE WE CURRENTLY CHARGING RESIDENTS $21 AS A TICKET?
>> NO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND BSO HAS NOT BEEN ENFORCING, BUT THAT IS THE TICKET.
I THINK THAT'S A PART OF MY PRESENTATION.
I SHOWED YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE TICKET THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT IN MY MEETING WITH THE CHIEF, HE HAS TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ENFORCING IT.
BUT WE DO HAVE THAT TICKET BOOK.
>> YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANT TO REPHRASE MY QUESTION SO IT'S CLEAR.
SO THERE IS $21 TICKET RIGHT NOW IN PLACE?
>> BUT WE'RE JUST NOT ENFORCING IT, RIGHT?
>> YES, SO YOU DO HAVE A CITATION BOOK THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT WE HAVE AND AS IT IS NOW, BSO IS THE ONLY ENTITY THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT.
WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WOULD ALLOW GOOD COMPLIANCE SUBJECT TO THE PROPER TRAINING, AS WELL AS A FIRE INSPECTOR SUBJECT TO THE PROPER TRAINING TO ENFORCE.
>> LIEUTENANT COOPER JUST ONE MORE QUESTION.
IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, HOW MANY POLICE OFFICERS DO YOU THINK WOULD BE NEEDED TO ENFORCE THIS TYPE OF ORDINANCE?
>> BASED ON THE TIMEFRAMES OF THE STATUE.
BUT WE HAVE A SHIFT OF DEPUTIES THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT.
SPECIFIC NUMBERS IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MANY CARS ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY ORDINANCE. I'M SORRY.
>> IF A POLICE OFFICER IS PROBABLY IN EAST TAMARAC WRITING A TICKET AND THEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY ON UNIVERSITY.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THAT POLICE OFFICER WOULD BE TIED UP WRITING A TICKET AND HAVE TO LEAVE TO GO TO ATTEND TO THAT EMERGENCY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT, WRITING THE TICKET OR ATTENDING TO THE EMERGENCY?
>> THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY THAT OUR OFFICER WOULD BE TIRED OF WRITING A PARKING ORDINANCE CITATION.
HOWEVER, IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLEAR AND RESPOND ACCORDINGLY TO THE EMERGENCY.
>> COMMISSIONER RYAN, DID YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> YEAH. I HAD SOME MORE QUESTIONS TO OUR CAPTAIN.
IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT, MS. CALLOWAY, YOU SAID IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED RIGHT NOW.
IF WE PASS THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE ENFORCED. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
>> IF THIS WAS TO PASS ONE WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ENFORCE IT.
>> WE WOULD FIRST AFTER, SECOND READING GO INTO A SIX-MONTH EDUCATIONAL PERIOD.
IT'S WHAT YOU CALL AN AMORTIZATION PERIOD, WHICH WILL TELL THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS ON THE BOOK
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AND THAT IT WILL BE ENFORCED AFTER SIX MONTHS AND THEN DAY ONE AFTER SIX MONTHS, YES, WE WOULD BEGIN ENFORCING.>> I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT VIOLATORS, IF THEY DON'T PAY THEIR TICKET THEY WILL HAVE TO GO TO COURT.
I HEARD YOU MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPEAR IN COURT.
>> IF THE TICKET IS NOT PAID AND THAT'S HOW IT IMPACTS THE VIOLATOR.
YOU WOULD BE UNABLE TO REGISTER YOUR VEHICLE WHEN IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO REGISTER.
>> WOULD THAT TAKE OFFICERS? WHAT IF SOMEONE IS FIGHTING IN COURT, WOULD THAT TAKE OFFICERS HAVING TO GO TO COURT?
>> NO IT IS YOU PAY OR IF YOU DON'T PAY.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS NOT A COURT PROCEEDING.
IT'S A TICKET THAT'S WRITTEN THAT YOU EITHER PAY OR IF YOU DO NOT PAY, THEN THAT'S HOW IT IMPACTS YOU.
IT'S NOT A COURT PROCEEDING THE BSO DOESN'T GO TO COURT. IT'S JUST YEAH.
>> OFFICERS ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE TAMARAC TO GO TO A COURT IN THE EVENT SOMEONE TRIED TO FIND A TICKET?
>> I BELIEVE ONE OF OUR MANY MEETINGS, WE AS CAPTAIN SEMINOLE, I THINK AT THE POINT WHO SHARED THAT? THE ONE TIME THAT THEY WERE ENFORCING IT, THEY TOOK A NIGHT TO ENFORCE IT.
THEY GAVE 300 TICKETS. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.
>> IF WE'RE COMING AROUND TO THE NEXT MEETING, LET'S FIND THE NIGHT THAT THE TEAM ENFORCED IT AND HOW MANY THEY DID BECAUSE WE WERE AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WENT AROUND AND THEY HAD SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE VIOLATING IT TO SHOW THE NEED FOR THIS.
THIS IS NOT LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO WILLINGLY AND PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE.
THERE HAS BEEN A NEED FOR THIS AND WHILE RECENTLY, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING FROM OUR INSURANCE PEOPLE OF WHEN OUR FIRETRUCKS AND OUR BSO HAVE HAD TO MOVE CARS OUT OF THE WAY.
THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR OUR BSO AND OUR FIRE RESCUE TO GET ANYWHERE.
THEY HAVE THE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY TO EITHER KNOCK ON A DOOR OR MOVE THINGS OUT OF THE WAY IF NEED BE.
AGAIN, APPLES AREN'T ORANGES AND TO FURTHER REITERATE, THE PROPOSED REASON FOR A NIGHTTIME CODE OFFICER IS TO ALSO NOT HAVE OUR OFFICERS WRITING A TICKET WHEN THEY NEED TO BE RESPONDING TO AN EMERGENCY FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.
IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE NIGHTTIME CODE PERSONNEL THAT WITHIN OUR SIX-MONTH PERIOD, SHOULD HAVE HIRED AND TRAINED IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THIS RULE AND ALL THE OTHER RULES THAT WE'VE PUT INTO PLACE THAT SHOULD GO INTO EFFECT AFTER 09:00 P.M. IN OUR CITY THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BEGGING US TO FINALLY ENFORCED AND NOT TAKE AWAY FROM OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO DO SO. VICE MAYOR.
>> MS. CALLOWAY, THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES, FORGOT EDEN WEST.
RIGHT HERE, PINE ISLAND AND MCNABB.
HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE PERMITTED AT EDEN WEST?
>> I THINK THERE ARE PARKED AT TWO PARKING PER UNIT.
I WOULD HAVE TO GET YOU THAT NUMBERS EXACT.
>> NOW, MS. CALLOWAY, THE REASON THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS IS EAST TAMARAC AND MOST TAMARAC COMMUNITIES ARE JUST OLDER COMMUNITIES.
WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS, SO I'M GOING THROUGH IN MY MIND AND EVEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I COULD BE AMENABLE TO THIS.
THERE IS NO WAY YOU GO OUT TO THOSE COMMUNITIES AND PEOPLE HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREET BECAUSE THERE IS NOWHERE FOR THEM TO PARK.
WE HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THAT BEFORE WE PUT AN ORDINANCE SO STRINGENT WHERE WE ARE NOW ENFORCING AND CHARGING PEOPLE ON $21.
I'M NOT AGAINST PEOPLE HAVING A QUALITY OF LIFE AND BEING ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR HOMES BUT LET'S GO THROUGH THROTTLE AND TRY TO START CHARGING PEOPLE $21 FOR PARKING ON THE STREET THAT'S TOO MUCH.
I'VE BEEN TO MOST OF THESE COMMUNITIES.
DISTRICT 1, DISTRICT 2, DISTRICT 3, DISTRICT 4 WALKED ALL THESE COMMUNITIES, ALL THESE STREETS AND I CAN TELL YOU, IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
SO TO EVEN ENTERTAIN VOTING YES ON THIS AND THEN SEEING CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, THAT'S WASTING TIME.
I'M INCLINED TO VOTE NO ON THIS, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. I BELIEVE EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM.
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YOU ARE INTERVIEWED BY YOUR ASSOCIATION.YOU ARE TOLD HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU COULD HAVE AND PEOPLE FAIL TO ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE RULES, NOT FOLLOW RULES AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS. TO CLARIFY, IT'S NOT PENALIZING THE PEOPLE.
YOU'RE PENALIZING THE PEOPLE THAT BREAK THE RULES AND WITH THAT, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO END DISCUSSION AND QUESTION.
>> BUT YOU'VE GONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN MAKING.
[OVERLAPPING] ALL THE TIME ABOUT STUFF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED, [OVERLAPPING] THESE ONE IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THE QUESTION.
>> I MADE A MOTION TO END DISCUSSION.
>> MY QUESTION WAS NO, ACTUALLY.
>> CITY ATTORNEY, YOUR LIGHT IS LIT GO AHEAD.
>> MAYOR. THERE'S NO SECOND SO IT'S.
>> WELL, I'M ASKING IF THERE'S A SECOND COOL, IF THERE ISN'T FINE.
>> WELL, COMMISSIONER DANIEL WILL HAVE HER LAST COMMENTS AND THEN WE WILL CALL THE QUESTION.
>> THIS CONFUSED AS TO WHY IT'S A PROBLEM AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE I DO WANT THE ORDINANCE.
HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE THE PEOPLE WHO NEEDED.
I WAS SAYING AT YOUR COMMENT, NOT ALL HOA SAY YOU HAVE TO ONLY HAVE ONE CAR.
SOME HOA ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE WHAT THEY WANT.
MAYBE IT'S A HOA PROBLEM AND NOT A CITY PROBLEM.
SAY IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE HOA OR WE NEED TO GIVE THE HOA MORE LEEWAY.
MAYBE THE HOA SHOULD GIVE THE TICKETS.
>> YOU CAN SAY, OH GOD, I HEARD SOMEBODY SAY, OH GOD, YES, WE NEED HIM.
HOWEVER, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THIS TIME PENALIZING PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD A HOUSE WITH TWO CAR, BUT THEY NEED TWO CARS TO GO TO WORK.
MY VOTE WOULD BE NO AT THIS POINT UNTIL WE FIX IT IN A PROPER WAY.
>> WE'RE NOT VOTING. [OVERLAPPING] POINT OF ORDER.
>> WHY DON'T WE FOLLOW THE POINT OF ORDER?
>> AS WHAT IS BEFORE US IS TO EXTEND THE TIME OF THE ORDINANCE FROM 2:00 AM TO 11:00 PM THE ORDINANCE IS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.
ENFORCEMENT IS COMING WHETHER OR NOT WE DO IT AT TWO OR 11 BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL ANYWAY.
ENFORCEMENT IS COMING BECAUSE THE CITY HAS RULES IN PLACE.
THAT $21 ITEM IS NOT GOING AWAY.
BUT AGAIN, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T PARK ON THE SIDE, ON THE BIKE LANES, BLOCKING FIRE HYDRANTS, BLOCKING THE END OF THE ROADS AND THE STOP SIGNS, AND CHANGING IT FROM THE FORCE TO 02:00 AM-11:00 PM, 11:00 PM-06:00 AM IS WHAT'S BEING 11 PART.
11:00 PM PART IS THE CHANGE FROM 02:00 AM THOSE ARE THE CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE, NOT REMOVING ANY OTHER PENALTIES SITUATION THAT'S THERE AND ADDING AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT.
>> THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
AT THIS TIME, IT'S PERSONNEL FOR ENFORCEMENT.
>> CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
HOLD ON ONE SECOND. EXCUSE ME, CITY.
>> JUST FOCUSED ON OCCASION, WE VOTE ON ITEM 6B.
>> YES, WE ARE STILL ON 6B. CORRECT.
>> WHICH COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS CALL THE QUESTION.
DO WE GET A SECOND? JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
THE VICE MAYOR TO THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS TO THE SECOND ON THE MOTION, AS IS AND DEPENDING ON THE STRUCTURE OF IT, WAS GOING TO BE WHETHER OR NOT I WAS ASKING FOR THE EXCEPTION RULE.
SO CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR GOMEZ?
>> MAYOR, CAN WE GET SOME STRUCTURE.
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CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE.CAN YOU INTERVENE? THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND.
>> COMMISSIONER, HE IS TRYING TO SPEAK. PLEASE.
>> CAN WE STAY ON THE RECORD IN TERMS OF COMMENTS?
>> YES. THE CONCERN THAT WAS SHARED BY COMMISSIONER DANIEL AND MYSELF JUST NOW WAS THAT SHE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS ITEM.
COMMISSIONER DANIEL, ARE YOU SEEKING A WORKSHOP ITEM ON THIS TO HAVE FURTHER ABILITY TO TALK ABOUT IT?
>> YES, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETHING DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE.
>> COMMISSION, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THIS TO COME BACK TO US IN A WORKSHOP ITEMS TO FINISH OFF OUR CONVERSATION. COMMISSIONER, WRIGHT.
>> MYSELF IS YES. COMMISSIONER DANIEL, I'M PRESUMING YES, SINCE IT'S YOUR MOTION AND VICE MAYOR.
>> IN THE WORKSHOP WILL GIVE CAPTAIN COOPER CLEARER INSTRUCTIONS NOT TO ENFORCE IT, SO ABSOLUTELY.
>> NO. COME ON. VICE MAYOR, DON'T TURN THIS PATH THAT WAY.
CITY MANAGER, YOU HAVE CONSENSUS TO PLEASE BRING THIS ITEM FOR A WORKSHOP IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE.
>> JUST A POINT OF ORDER. THIS IS BEING ENFORCED.
>> THE ITEM IS NOT YET BEING ENFORCED.
BSO ENFORCES IT AT TIMES WHEN IT HAS THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT, BUT DUE TO STAFFING, IT DOES NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TIME AND PERSONNEL TO ENFORCE.
>> IT'S JUST NOT CONSISTENTLY ENFORCED, WHICH IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND WHY COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN BEGGING FOR CONSISTENCY.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE HIM THIS EVENING, BUT WE WILL HAVE A WORKSHOP ON IT TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION AT WORKSHOP.
NOW MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE'RE BURNING RUBBER, SO TO SPEAK.
[6.c TO2520 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, amending Ordinance 2022-018, which adopted the City of Tamarac Operating Budget,Revenues and Expenditures, the Capital Budget, and the Financial Policies for theFiscal Year 2023, by increasing the total revenues and expenditures by a total of$19,005,318 as detailed in Attachment A attached hereto and summarized in Attachment B; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> ITEM 6C IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
A MINUTE ORDINANCE 2022-18, WHICH ARE ADOPT THE CITY OF TAMARAC OPERATING BUDGET, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, THE CAPITAL BUDGET, AND THE FINANCIAL POLICIES OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2023, BY INCREASING TOTAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BY A TOTAL OF 19,005,318 AS DETAILED.
AND ATTACHMENT A ATTACHED HERE TO SUMMARIZE ATTACHMENT B, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY, PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.
>> EXCELLENT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
CHRISTINE COULD USE OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTORS MAKING A PRESENTATION FOR US.
COMMISSIONER CHRISTINE COULD USE THE RECORD FINANCIAL SERVICES.
I HAVE WITH ME JEFF STREDER OUR BUDGET MANAGER.
BEFORE YOU IS TEMPORARY ORDINANCE 2520, WHICH IS OUR FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.
HERE'S JUST A REMINDER, GOVERNED BY FLORIDA STATUTE 166.241 SECTION 7, THAT REALLY DICTATES THAT THE BUDGET AMENDMENT BE AMENDED IN THE SAME FASHION THAT THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED.
HERE WE HAVE A SYNOPSIS OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET.
THERE ARE SIX RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
WE HAVE THREE WHAT WE TERM HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS WHICH JUST APPROPRIATE THE DOLLARS TO PARTICULAR FUNDS.
THE LAST ITEM IS ONE THAT REQUIRES YOUR APPROVAL AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE STORMWATER LOAN.
I'M GOING TO ALLOW JEFF STREDER TO COME FORWARD AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE DETAILS FOR EACH ITEM.
FOR THE RECORD, JEFF STREDER BUDGET MANAGER.
THIS TABLE BASICALLY SUMMARIZES HOW THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF BONDS.
THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THERE IS AN ITEM IN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT RELATED TO EVERY ONE OF THE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF FUNDS, EXCEPT FOR THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.
AS A REMINDER, THE INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS ARE THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND AND THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND.
IN SUMMARY, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD AMEND THE BUDGET BY $19,005,318 FROM
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$242,183,612 TO $261,188,930.THIS REPRESENTS A 7.85 PERCENT INCREASE TO THE CITY'S TOTAL BUDGET.
THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ITEMS THAT CHRISTINE REFERENCED REPRESENT 15.88 PERCENT OF THE AMENDMENT, AND THE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS REPRESENT 84.12 PERCENT OF THE AMENDMENT.
NOW WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS VERY QUICKLY GO THROUGH EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS WITH YOU.
WE'LL START WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM IS RESOLUTION 2022-103, THAT APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF 200 LENOVO COMPUTERS AT A CERTAIN COST.
IT ALSO AUTHORIZED AN APPROPRIATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $150,923.10 TO BE INCLUDED IN A FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THE SYSTEM DOESN'T ACCEPT DOLLARS AND CENTS.
WE HAVE TO ENTER A WHOLE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
SO YOUR BUDGET AMENDMENT IS $150,924.
WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS WITH NO NET CHANGE USING OFFSETTING INCREASES AND DECREASES TO EXPENSES.
THE NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION 2022-119, ACCEPTING OF FLORIDA RECREATION DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OR FRDAP GRANT AWARD IN THE AMOUNT OF 50,000 FOR PROJECT PW22B, WHICH IS THE DOG PARK RENOVATION PROJECT.
THIS IS A 50,000 INCREASE TO THE BUDGET.
THE NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION 2023-012.
IT AUTHORIZED THE AWARD OF ITB NUMBER 22-20 B TO KHAN BUILDERS INC FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER RESTROOMS. IT ALSO AUTHORIZED AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION TO BE INCLUDED IN A FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENT OF $201,542.69.
AGAIN, WE USED OFFSETTING INCREASES AND DECREASES TO EXPENSES TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.
NEXT IS RESOLUTION 2023-013, APPROVING A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6115 NORTHWEST 77TH WAY, FOR A PURCHASE PRICE OF $2,000,273 AND NOT TO BE INCLUDED IN A FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THIS IS AN INCREASE IN THE UTILITIES FUND FOR THE PURCHASE OF THIS LAND OF $2,273,000.
RESOLUTION 2023-017, APPROVED A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 5 TO THE CONTRACT WITH UNITEC, INC., FOR THE FIBER NETWORK EXPANSION PHASE 2.
IT ALSO INCLUDED AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATION NOT TO EXCEED $36,368 FOR PROJECT GP22A AND THAT WAS TO BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THIS IS DONE WITH NO NET CHANGE FOR THE TRANSFER, BUT THERE IS AN INCREASE FOR THE APPROPRIATION OF THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES OF $36,368.
IN PRIOR MEETINGS, I TOLD YOU WHEN A TRANSFER IS INVOLVED, YOU HAVE TO DOUBLE BUDGET IN THE FUND THAT'S RECEIVING THE TRANSFER.
YOU HAVE TO DOUBLE THE BUDGET FOR THE REVENUE COMING IN AND THE EXPENSE YOU'RE PAYING FOR AND IN THE FUND THAT'S TRANSFERRING OUT THE MONEY, YOU HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THE TRANSFER.
USUALLY, THERE'S A DOUBLE BUDGET, BUT IN THIS CASE, WE WERE ABLE TO DO WITH JUST BUDGETING A ONE-TIME $336,368.
THE LAST PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ITEM IS RESOLUTION 2023-024, AWARDING BID NUMBER 23-06B TO THE STOUT GROUP, LLC FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE C-14 OR CANAL EROSION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
IT ALSO AUTHORIZED AN APPROPRIATION IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $328,897 TO BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
HERE YOU'VE GOT THE DOUBLE BUDGET SCENARIO OCCURRING.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ENCUMBRANCE ROLE.
THIS IS WHERE WE REAPPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR PURCHASE ORDERS THAT
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WERE OPENED IN THE PRIOR YEAR BUT WERE NOT COMPLETED AND SPENT OUT.WE HAVE TO REAPPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS CAN BE COMPLETELY SPENT AND CLOSED.
IN THE GENERAL FUND, IT IS ESSENTIALLY A REALLOCATION OF FUNDING FROM NON-DEPARTMENTAL TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND THE GENERAL FUND THAT HAVE THE ENCUMBRANCES.
AND SO WHAT'S BEING DONE HERE IS 437,458 IS BEING REALLOCATED FROM NON-DEPARTMENTAL TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITH THE OPEN POS.
THAT'S NO INCREASE TO THE BUDGET.
THE NEXT ITEM IS TO APPROPRIATE ADDITIONAL FUNDING NEEDED FOR WORK BEING PERFORMED BY THE PAVING LADY FOR THE WOODLANDS NORTH TRAFFIC CALMING PROJECT.
THIS IS A $28,855 APPROPRIATION, BUT THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED WITH NO NET CHANGE.
WE USE OFFSETTING INCREASES AND DECREASES AND EXPENSIVE.
ANOTHER MISCELLANEOUS ITEM IS THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM A PORTION OF THE SECOND HALF OF FUNDING RECEIVED BY THE CITY UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN TO THE GENERAL FUND UTILIZED FOR PAYING A PORTION OF THE BSO EXPENDITURES INCURRED IN FISCAL YEAR 2023.
THIS BUDGET ADJUSTMENT DOES NOT REPRESENT AN INCREASE IN COST TO THE CITY.
IT'S QUITE TO THE CONTRARY, ACTUALLY, THIS BUDGET ADJUSTMENT WILL RESULT IN RELIEVING THE GENERAL FUND OF A BURDEN IN AN EQUAL AMOUNT.
THE GENERAL FUND GETS RELIEVED OF A BURDEN OF 4,551,496 AS A RESULT OF MAKING THIS BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.
THE LAST ITEM IS THE REPAYMENT OF THE STORMWATER LOAN.
IN TRANSFERRING THE AMOUNT NEEDED TO DO THAT TO THE COLONY WEST FUND, 4,318,330 IS BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND 1,400,000 IS BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE DEBT SERVICE FUND FOR A TOTAL OF $5,718,330 TO THE COLONY.
YOU WATCHED FINE FOR REPAYMENT OF THE LOAN.
THE COLONY WEST GOLF COURSE FUND WILL REPAY THE EXISTING INTER-FUND LOAN PLUS APPLICABLE INTERESTS.
IN SUMMARY, AGAIN, HERE'S HOW THE BUDGET HAS ALL THOSE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS I JUST RAN THROUGH IS ALLOCATED ACROSS THE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF FUNDS FOR A TOTAL OF $19,005,318 AND CHRISTINE AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
>> THANK YOU 6DT02522 CITY ATTORNEY,
[6.d TO2522 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida,approving Amendment No. 3 to extend the existing Franchise Agreement forfurnishing collection and disposal of residential solid waste and recycling and commercial solid waste services for the period effective October 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024 attached hereto as Exhibit “1” and incorporated herein; authorizing the appropriate City Officials to execute Amendment No. 3 to the Franchise Agreement with Waste Management Inc., of Florida and to take action consistent with the intent of this ordinance; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> ITEMS 60, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS, CITY TAMARAC A PROVEN AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 TO EXTEND EXISTING FRANCHISE AGREEMENT OR FURNISHING, COLLECTION, AND DISPOSAL OF RESIDENTIAL SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING AND COMMERCIAL SOLID WASTE SERVICES.
WHAT APPEARED EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, AND INCORPORATE HERE IN AUTHORIZING THE APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE AMENDMENT NUMBER 3 TO THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT, INC OF FLORIDA TO TAKE ACTION CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THIS ORDINANCE, PROVIDE FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDE FOR SEVERAL EARLY, PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE VICE MAYOR WITH A MOTION, AND I HAVE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS WITH A SECOND.
TRY GUYS IN THE INTERIM ASSISTANT PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> YOU GOT TO BE A LITTLE QUICKER THAN THAT, VICE MAYOR.
GO FOR IT. DO YOU NEED A PRESENTATION?
>> TRY PLEASE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION.
>> FIRST OF ALL, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GIVE A REALLY QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THEN IF WE WANT TO GO A LITTLE DEEPER, I'VE GOT A VERY DETAILED TIMELINE, BUT I'D LIKE TO HIT THE SALIENT POINTS FIRST.
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, TRY GUYS, ACTING ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICES.
WHAT THIS DOES IS THAT IT EXTENDS THE AGREEMENT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR ONE YEAR THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.
IT'S CURRENTLY SET TO EXPIRE IN SEPTEMBER 30TH OF THIS YEAR, 2023.
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THERE WOULD BE NO ADDITIONAL EXTENSIONS AFTER SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.IT DOES A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS IT UPDATES A COUPLE OF SECTIONS REGARDING SCRUTINIZED COMPANIES AND PUBLIC RECORDS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTES.
IT ALSO INCLUDES A TERMINATION FOR CONVENIENCE BY THE CITY.
PART OF THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS IS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT COMING UP AND WE ARE GOING TO BID THIS OUT.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A HIGH DEGREE OF UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW BASED ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE IS THAT WE'RE RIGHT IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A NEW RESOURCE RECOVERY SYSTEM AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE FINAL VERSION OF THAT ILA IS GOING TO BE COMING BEFORE YOU GUYS IN THE COMING WEEKS.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO COME FROM THAT.
ALSO, WHEN WE DID THE LAST EXTENSION TO THE CONTRACT THAT WAS PASSED EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 2020, AND OBVIOUSLY IN THE INBREEDING TIMES, THE WHEELS HAVE COME OFF SOME THINGS.
WE'RE SEEING INCREDIBLE INCREASES TO THE CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND WASTE MANAGEMENT AS WITH ANY OTHER CONTRACTORS DEALING WITH A REALLY TIGHT LABOR MARKET.
WE HAVE BEEN SEEING PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO THE PRICES OF THOSE CONTRACTS.
I RECOMMEND THAT WE WAIT AND THEN BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO BID OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND IDEALLY BE ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE LESS UNCERTAINTY, BOTH FROM JUST THE ECONOMY THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND ALSO HAVE SOME CLARITY AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO COLLECTIVELY AS A COMMUNITY WITHIN BROWARD COUNTY AND SO OUR INTENTION IS OBVIOUSLY TO GO OUT TO RE-BID.
WE DO SOME PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS AND OBVIOUSLY GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS ALONG WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THAT PROCESS TYPICALLY TAKES ABOUT 12 MONTHS TO BE ABLE TO DO.
WHEN WE LAST DID THAT RFP BACK IN 2010.
WE WERE DOING SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THEN THIS TIME IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE STREAMLINED, BUT WE DO WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A REALLY COMPETITIVE PROCESS.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME WASTE MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATIVES HERE TONIGHT.
I WILL SPEAK VERY FREELY AND BLUNTLY IS THAT WE WANT THIS TO BE AS COMPETITIVE PROCESS AS POSSIBLE AND IF WE WERE TO RUSH TO GET A NEW CONTRACT OUT BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE ONLY BENEFIT WASTE MANAGEMENT BY NOT HAVING ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO REALLY BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE RFP WE PUT OUT AND TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT ENOUGH COMPETITION.
WITH THAT SAID, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS?
>> FOR THE RECORD, THAT WASN'T A QUESTION, IT WAS A REQUEST FOR YOU TO DO A PRESENTATION.
TROY, ARE THERE ANY EXTENSIONS LEFT ON THE CURRENT AGREEMENT?
>> THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE. THERE ARE NO RENEWAL TERMS AFTER THAT.
>> BUT AS IT IS NOW, THERE IS NO EXTENSIONS.
IF WE WANT KEITH TO SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS AN EXTENSION, IT'S NOT A RENEWAL.
I KNOW THAT MAY SOUND A LITTLE BIT LIKE WORD GAMES, BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE AND SO WE HAVE NO MORE RENEWALS.
WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
>> THEN CAN YOU ADDRESS THE CHANGES IN PRICE? I WANT RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHILE THIS IS AN EXTENSION, THERE'S A RATE INCREASE.
WE CAN'T JUST RUSH THROUGH VOTING YES WITHOUT RESIDENTS UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A RATE INCREASE AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY MORE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS A RATE INCREASE INCLUDED IN HERE.
THE RATE INCREASE IS APPROXIMATELY 12%.
I KNOW THAT DOES SOUND LIKE A LOT.
PART OF WHEN WE HAD THIS CONTRACT IN PLACE FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS, WE'VE HAD A CAP OF NOT MORE THAN 5% ON THE CPI AND NOT MORE THAN 5% ON THE FUEL.
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, THAT HAS BEEN TO OUR BENEFIT.
THIS IS NOT A CATCH-UP FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS SIMPLY TO BE IN LINE WITH THE RATES THAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS BROWARD COUNTY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THIS ISN'T THEM GOING BACK AND RECLAIMING MONEY THAT THEY'VE LOST.
THIS IS MY OPINION, A REASONABLE INCREASE BASED ON WHERE WE'RE AT.
SINCE IT'S AN EXTENSION, THERE ISN'T A MECHANISM TO DO AN INCREASE SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS INCLUDED IN IT.
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IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH.THIS WOULD BE AFFECTING THE NEXT RATES.
AS FAR AS WHAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD SEE, I WOULD DEFER TO CHRISTINE ON THAT.
I'M NOT ASKING AS A QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE UNFAIR, BUT THAT'S FOR US TO ESTABLISH THE SOLID WASTE RATE.
I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE WHETHER THERE'D BE AN INCREASE TO RESIDENTS OR NOT.
BUT IT WOULD BE AN INCREASED COST TO THE CITY, THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE TO BE ABSORBED.
>> I BELIEVE THE REQUESTS WAS, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE INCREASES ONE BY ONE?
>> SORRY. THAT IS, THE INCREASE ONE BY ONE IS THAT THERE'S A 12% INCREASE.
>> THERE'S A 12% INCREASE, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN SAY.
BUT BETWEEN OCTOBER 1ST AND SEPTEMBER 30TH, NEXT YEAR, THAT IS WHEN THE RESIDENTS WILL SEE A 12% OR SO INCREASE.
>> THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD SEE, THAT'S WHEN THE CITY WOULD SEE THAT INCREASED COST OF THE CONTRACT.
>> ARE WE GOING TO BE PASSING ON THE INCREASE TO THE RESIDENTS?
>> THAT IS A DECISION OF ABOVE ME.
>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE A FINANCE QUESTION.
ULTIMATELY, THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FORWARD IN THE BUDGET.
>> YEAH. CHRISTINE, YOU'RE ABOVE HIM. TELL US.
PROCEDURALLY, CITY MANAGER NEEDS TO DIRECT. GO AHEAD.
>> MAYOR, OUR INTENTION IS TO START THE SOLICITATION PROCESS IMMEDIATELY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS EXTENSION PROCESS.
OUR EXPECTATION IS TO CONCLUDE THAT BEFORE WE HAVE THE REASON OR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THIS RATE INCREASE IMPACT ANY PUBLIC RATE.
OUR INTENTION IS TO CONCLUDE THAT PROCESS AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE CONSUMER RATES AT THIS POINT.
>> AT THIS POINT IN TIME, CITY MANAGER, SINCE THE EMPLOYEES, THE EXECUTIVE TEAM GOES THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, CITY MANAGER IS TO DIRECT CHRISTINE TO COME SPEAK, CORRECT? CITY MANAGER, DO YOU AUTHORIZE?
>> IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR IF YOU NEED MORE CLARIFICATION, ABSOLUTELY, BY ALL MEANS.
>> IN THE SAME WAY THAT TROY ASKED TO COME DOWN.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT NONETHELESS.
>> VICE MAYOR, HE WAS A PRESENTER AND THAT'S WHY MS CAJUSTE IS AVAILABLE NOW, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
>> MS CAJUSTE, SO I CAN ASK THE QUESTION AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND?
>> THERE WOULD BE POSSIBLY A 12% INCREASE BETWEEN OCTOBER 1ST NEXT YEAR AND SEPTEMBER 29TH.
THE CITY MANAGER JUST SAID THAT HIS DESIRE IS TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
TROY SAID THAT IT COULD BE A 12-MONTH PROCESS.
IN THE PAST, IT HAS TAKEN 18 MONTHS.
TELL US WHAT YOU BELIEVE WILL HAPPEN AND IF WE GET TO THE 12 MONTHS, WE'RE NOW INTO OCTOBER 1ST NEXT YEAR, WHO WILL PAY THE RATE INCREASE? WILL THE CITY ABSORB THAT INCREASE OR WILL IT BE PASSED ON TO THE RESIDENTS?
>> TYPICALLY, ONCE WE GET THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS AND WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE BROAD PROPERTY APPRAISERS AND WE DO OUR ANALYSIS OF THE RATE AND OF THE INCREASES AND OF THE EXEMPTION, SOMETIMES WE ARE ABLE TO HOLD THE RATE.
THERE HAVE BEEN INCREASES OVER THE YEARS AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HOLD THE RATES AND HAVE NO INCREASES.
DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE, THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE AN INCREASE.
THIS WOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU WHEN WE HAVE OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP IN JUNE.
YOU WILL KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THE RATE IN JULY, WHICH IS LONG BEFORE, WE WILL HAVE ALL THE RESULTS.
>> MA'AM, IF I MAY, THIS CONVERSATION WOULD BE 2024 JULY, NOT THIS YEAR BECAUSE THIS EXTENSION IS EFFECTIVE OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
THOSE RATES WOULD NOT COME IN PLAY UNTIL OUR BUDGET CONVERSATIONS
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AND TAX RATES IN JULY OF NEXT YEAR.>> THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE MAY BE A POSSIBILITY THAT THERE MAY BE A RATE INCREASE PASSED ON TO THE RESIDENTS.
I HAVE NO CONTENTION WITH GIVING AN EXTENSION FOR 12 MONTHS.
AS MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THAT IT IS WHY IS THAT WE DO THAT AND ALLOW FOR THE PROCESS TO CONTINUE.
OF COURSE, WITH THE 90 DAYS, GIVEN THE MARKET CONDITIONS AND THAT GARBAGE IS STINKY, AND WE DON'T WANT FOR THERE TO BE COMPETITION AND NEW COMPANY COMES IN AND THEN WE'RE RUSHING CHANGE.
OBVIOUSLY I'M FOR THIS BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENTS DO UNDERSTAND THAT COMMISSIONERS ARE READING HOPEFULLY, AND THAT THEY KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE A RATE INCREASE 12%.
I SEE THE GALLONS IS IN THE CARTS, ALL OF THAT STUFF.
THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS, WE MAY BE DOWNPLAYING THE 12% AND THAT'S THE STUFF, BUT THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS.
I'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE CITIES, I'VE BENCHMARK OTHER CITIES.
WHEN OTHER CITIES ARE DOING EXTENSIONS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THIS SORT OF BLANKET, IT MAY BE, IT MAY NOT BE TOO STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE, THIS IS WHAT RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO PAY, THE CITY IS GOING TO ABSORB.
I'VE NOT SEEN THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING THIS KIND OF BLANKET EXTENSION BUT HOPEFULLY, COMMISSIONERS, AND MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND THAT, HOPEFULLY THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT.
AGAIN, I'M INCLINED TO VOTE YES ON THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT WITH CAUTION THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A RATE INCREASE AT SOME POINT.
WHETHER TO THE CITY OR TO THEM.
>> WE HAVING THE EXTENSION SO THAT WE CAN DO A PROPER BID, POSSIBLY FOR A NEWER COMPANY.
IF THE NEWER COMPANY COMES IN LOWER, DOES THAT MEAN THE RESIDENT GET A DISCOUNT? [LAUGHTER] YOU WOULD THINK IF IT GOES UP THEN WHY ARE WE GETTING A DISCOUNT?
>> THE PROCESS WOULD BE THE SAME.
THAT ONCE A NEW RATE IS IN PLACE, THEN THE ANALYSIS WOULD BE DONE AND THEN IT WOULD BE DETERMINED AT WHAT RATE THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE CHARGED FOR THAT.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SETTING EXPECTATIONS THAT REGARDLESS WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR, I'M ANTICIPATING RATE INCREASES.
I'M HOPING IT WON'T BE AS BAD AS IF WE WENT OUT TO BID RIGHT NOW AND RUSH THROUGH IT.
BUT WE CERTAINLY WANT THIS TO BE AS COMPETITIVE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED FOR A LOWER RATE.
>> I GUESS IT'S COMING DOWN, SORRY, HENCE WILL NEVER PRICE THE SAME. VICE MAYOR.
>> YES MAYOR. TROY, YOU MENTIONED THAT OUR STAFF WANTS THERE TO BE COMPETITION AND YOU WANT TO GO FOR AN RFP.
BUT DO YOU HAVE A DATE CERTAIN FOR AN RFP TO GO OUT? I THINK THAT RESIDENTS WOULD APPRECIATE HEARING THAT.
BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF LOOKING AT SOME CONSULTANTS TO COME IN AND HELP US, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID LAST TIME, VERY COMMON FOR CITIES TO DO THAT, BRING IN A CONSULTANT IN THAT AREA.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY'LL DO ON THAT IS THEY'LL ESTABLISH A CALENDAR FOR THAT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH TIME ON THE FRONT END TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION FROM YOU GUYS AND FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TOWARDS GETTING RFP OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE'LL GET FROM A CONTRACTOR.
THE IDEA HERE BEING OBVIOUSLY IS WE WANT TO GET CLEAR DIRECTION ON THE EXTENSION AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH A CONSULTANT.
I ANTICIPATE WE WILL HAVE A CONSULTANT READY TO COME ON BOARD AT THE CLOSE OF THIS PROCESS.
>> BECAUSE WE NEED TO PUT ON THE RECORD AND UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DRAG OUR FEET ON AN RFP,
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THEN IT MAY DRAG INTO THE OCTOBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 29TH, AND THEN WE'RE SEEING RATE INCREASE EITHER FOR THE CITY AND WE HAVE TO BE FIDUCIARY.WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY SO TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE WITH THE RFP BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT RATE INCREASE PASSED ON TO THE RESIDENTS, WE NEED TO SEE THAT COMPETITIVE PROCESS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SOLIDIFY A DATE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO THAT MANAGER OR NOT GIVE US A DATE CERTAIN WHERE YOU CAN GIVE US SOME ASSURANCE TO PASS ONTO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK SERIOUSLY ON THIS AND GIVE US A DATE CERTAIN.
>> PART OF THE COMPLICATION TO GIVING A DATE CERTAIN AT THIS MOMENT IS GOING TO DEPEND I AM ON THE SOUTH WEST WORKING GROUP, AND SO IT IS TROY IS OUR TECHNICAL ADVISOR, I AM ONE OF THE NINE ON THE GROUP.
>> YOU DIDN'T ATTEND THE LAST MEETING, MAYOR?
>> YES, BECAUSE MY MOTHER WAS IN THE HOSPITAL, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAD AN EXCUSE ISSUE, AND THAT'S WHY TROY WAS THERE.
BASICALLY, THE POINT BEING WE'RE BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE CITY.
WE NEED TO DISCUSS CERTAIN MATTERS FIRST TO BE ABLE TO THEN HAVE SOLID ABILITY TO KNOW HOW THE RFP WILL BE WRITTEN.
IF WE DON'T KNOW PER SE IF IT'S COMING BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING OR AT THE END OF MAY, BUT IT'S COMING BACK SHORTLY.
I THINK THAT AT THAT TIME AFTER WE HAVE THAT MEETING AND WE KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING IF IT SHOULD BE PASSED AND THE REST OF THE ILA PASSED, THEM BLESS YOU, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW AT A BETTER TIME THE TIMEFRAME OF BEING ABLE TO PUT THIS RFP. COMMISSIONER.
>> WE'LL ACTUALLY YOU'RE TWO MINUTES BACK WE'VE BEEN UP, BUT WE WERE TRYING TO GO BACK TO POLICY HERE.
BUT GO AHEAD AND FINISH UP, PLEASE.
>> YOU STARTED AT 8:55 AND IS NOW 8:59 GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER, VICE MAYOR.
>> ACCORDING TO YOUR CLOCK, BUT ACCORDING TO MINE I STILL HAVE 1 MINUTE AND 55 SECONDS.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE MANAGER ANSWER OR NOT?
>> MADAM MAYOR, OUR COMMITMENT IS TO PROCEED WITH THIS PROCESS AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE ALREADY SAW, AS TROY MENTIONED, IN THE SEARCH OF A CONSULTANT, WE'LL CONCLUDE THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF TIMELINE AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PROCESS, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RFP.
>> HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE AS A FOLLOW-UP TO HIRE CONSULTANTS?
>> OUR EXPECTATION IS TO CONCLUDE THAT PROCESS BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH.
>> ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU, TROY, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE 12% IS COMPETITIVE? BECAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AND SPOKE WITH OTHER CITY MANAGERS, THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS COMPETITIVE AT ALL.
THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GETTING A GOOD DEAL.
>> THAT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE RECENT AWARDS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN CITIES SURROUNDING US.
THAT'S WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.
KEEP IN MIND ALSO THAT WE'VE BE LOOKING AT SEEING A MINIMUM OF A 5% INCREASE IF THIS CONTRACT CONTINUED UNDER ITS CURRENT TERMS, THERE'LL BE A 5% INCREASE ALREADY.
WE ARE LOOKING AT, IN MY OPINION, A PRETTY REASONABLE INCREASE, AND THE RATES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN MY RESEARCH HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THE CITIES SURROUNDING US THAT HAVE GONE OUT TO [NOISE].
>> THANK YOU TROY I YIELD THE REST OF MY 30 SECONDS.
IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS, IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A ONE-ON-ONE REAL FAST.
WE'LL BE RENEWING A CONTRACT FROM NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR INTO NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS 2024.
>> CORRECT. OCTOBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 30TH. YES.
>> THERE'S GOING TO BE A 12% INCREASE WITHIN A TIMEFRAME.
>> RIGHT. IT'LL BE EFFECTIVE THAT CONTRACT PERIOD.
>> HOW DOES IT WORK, USUALLY? DO WE USUALLY DO THIS? THIS IS LIKE SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE OR DOING SOMETHING FOR A YEAR.
IT'S LIKE 18 MONTHS FROM NOW THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.
I'LL SAY SINCE I'VE BEEN COMMISSIONER, I'VE GOTTEN ABOUT, I'LL SAY 45 COMPLAINTS OF RESIDENCE, WHERE TO GO AND MEET RESIDENTS.
I'LL SAY 10-12 OF THOSE COMPLAINTS WERE ABOUT TRASH AND WASTE MANAGEMENT AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
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I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS WORK.HOW DO WE GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS? IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OXIDE ENTITIES AND OTHER COMPANIES WHO ARE BIDDING TO COME IN AND OFFER US BETTER PRICING OR BETTER SERVICE OR WHATEVER.
HUGELY, HOW DOES THAT WORK IN TERMS OF GIVING ME A ONE-TO-ONE?
>> WELL, SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHEN WE HAD THE RENEWAL IN 2020, THAT WAS ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED A FULL YEAR BEFORE.
THE COMMISSION AUTHORIZED THAT AND I BELIEVE IT WAS OCTOBER OF 2019.
WE AUTHORIZE THAT A FULL YEAR IN ADVANCE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THERE WASN'T A RENEWAL, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO START GOING OUT TO BID AT THAT MOMENT.
AGAIN, THERE'S SOME GREATER UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW.
OTHERWISE, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY WALKING DOWN THIS ROAD TO GET AN RFP IN PLACE.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, WE'LL BRING ON A CONSULTANT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FORTUNATELY, WE DID A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT OVERHAUL TO OUR ORDINANCES BACK IN 2009, 2010.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE LOOKING THROUGH AND UPDATING A LITTLE BIT.
THEY'LL DO SOME RESEARCH ON WHAT THE MARKET IS.
I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT ALL OF THE CONSULTANTS WERE LOOKING AT, THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS.
THAT PROCESS IS PRETTY SUMMARY BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS RESEARCHING THE MARKETPLACE.
THEN WE WILL HOLD SOME DEGREE OF PUBLIC WORKSHOPS.
WE'LL DO THOSE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS 100% TRUE FROM WHAT I'M HEARING AS WELL AS THAT, YES, THERE ARE SOME COMPLAINTS.
WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS WE'LL LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND WE'LL LOOK AT, I LIKE TO THINK OF BRICKBATS AND BOUQUETS.
WHAT DO WE HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT CONTRACT? THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT I BELIEVE CAN BE MADE TO THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS HOW DO WE HOLD THE CONTRACT OR ACCOUNTABLE.
ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION BACK FROM THAT CONTRACTOR AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE THOSE LOOPS ON SOME OF THOSE COMPLAINTS AND IDEALLY PREVENT THEM FROM HAPPENING.
THOSE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN.
WE'LL RELY A LITTLE BIT ON THE CONSULTANT GIVE SOME GUIDANCE AS FAR AS HOW MUCH TIME THAT RFP IS ON THE STREET.
BUT ON A CONTRACT OF THIS SIZE, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME FOR CONTRACTORS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT.
WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE A PRE-BID WITH ALL THE CONTRACTORS.
WHAT WE DID LAST TIME IS THAT WE HAD FIVE SUBMITTALS AND WE HAD ALL FIVE COME AND GIVE A PRESENTATION.
I WOULD ASSUME WE DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.
THEN ULTIMATELY WE WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL AS FAR AS WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
TYPICALLY ALSO IN A CONTRACT LIKE THIS IS THAT THERE'LL BE A RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARD AND THEN THERE'LL BE A NEGOTIATION FOR EFFECTIVELY A BEST AND FINAL OFFER.
>> WHAT I'LL DO IN THE FUTURE, I'LL SCHEDULE SOME TIME WITH YOU PERSONALLY SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THEM IN MORE THAN ONE SEASON.
THE WASTE MANAGEMENT, SOLIDLY SOME CONTRACT WORKS.
I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME UNDERSTANDING THE ONE-ON-ONE.
I'M GOING TO WANT 101,102, 103 AND THEN SCHEDULE SOME TIME.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR THAT.
IT IS VERY INTERESTING ACTUALLY.
OUR SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENT FEES ON OUR TAX BILL, BUT THEN ABOUT 258 FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, CORRECT? WE HAVEN'T GONE UP.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S BEEN STEADY FOR I WANT TO SAY THE LAST 10 YEARS, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY STEADY SINCE THIS CONTRACT HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
>> IT HAS SHOWN THAT THE CITY HAS DONE EVERYTHING THAT IT CAN POSSIBLY TO ABSORB THE COST ITSELF VERSUS HAVING IT GO OUT TO A BUDGET ITEM THAT WOULD AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN RIGHT NOW IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? I'M GOING TO REITERATE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LOT OF STUFF SAID HERE.
IF WE DON'T DO THIS EXTENSION THIS EVENING.
THEN WE'RE STUCK DOING A RUSH BID.
THEN SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT ALL OF US HAVE HAD COME TO US AND SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE THINK WE MIGHT HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THIS PROCESS IN THE FUTURE FOR OUR RESIDENTS HAVE A LESS POSSIBILITY OF BEING HEARD.
>> IN A WORD, YES. THE CONSEQUENCES ARE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO RUSH AN RFP THROUGH.
IT'S DOABLE, BUT IT WOULD BE RUSHED TO DO.
I SAID YOU WOULD TEND TO FAVOR THE COMPANY IN PLACE BECAUSE IT'S HARDER FOR A COMPANY WHO HASN'T BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND MAKE A COMPETITIVE OFFER.
AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE ARE SEEING
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PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THE PRICE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT WE'LL SEE BETTER.BUT OBVIOUSLY, AS FAR AS JUST THE OVERALL WORLD WE'RE SEEING, THINGS START TO COME DOWN WITH THE ECONOMY OVERALL.
WE'RE SEEING A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE CPI AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IDEALLY, WE'LL BE IN A BETTER ENVIRONMENT FINANCIALLY THAN WE ARE NOW AND WE'RE SEEING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WORKFORCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> ALSO WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION DURING OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY IS ABLE TO ABSORB THE COSTS EVEN FURTHER FOR THE 12% VERSUS 5% OR 7% DIFFERENCE.
ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF AT A FULL-FLEDGED BUDGET MEETING IN JUNE, RIGHT?
>> AWESOME. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
NO OTHER COMMENTS. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR BOLTON?
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 9:08.
WE WILL BE BACK HERE TIMELY AT 9:20.
WELCOME BACK, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IT IS 9:20 AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE ARE ON TIME.
OUR NEXT ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT IS 7ATR13905.
[7.a TR13905 - A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida approving an amendment to the city’s previously adopted Local Housing AssistancePlan (LHAP) for Fiscal Years 2022, 2023, and 2024 attached hereto as Exhibit “A”, to add a new strategy for rental housing; authorizing and directing the Mayor to execute any necessary documents and certifications needed by the State; authorizing the submission of the amended LHAP for final approval by the Florida Housing Finance]
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.>> ITEM 7A, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY CIMMISSIONER CITY TAMARAC.
APPROVING THAT AMENDMENT TO THE CITY PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN FOR FISCAL YEARS 2022, 2023, 2024.
TO ADD A NEW STRATEGY FOR RENTAL HOUSING AN AUTHORIZED AND DIRECTED THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND CERTIFICATION NEEDED BY THE STATE.
AUTHORIZED THE SUMMATION AMENDED LOCAL HOUSING [NOISE] ASSISTANCE PLAN FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.
AUTHORIZING THE APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO ACCEPT THE STATE OF FLORIDA STATE HAS INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM BUDGET BY ACCEPTING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022, 2023, 2024 ALLOCATION OF THE PROGRAM FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED ACCORDING TO THE CITY LOCAL HOUSING SYSTEM PLAN AND HOUSING DELIVERY GOALS CHART.
THAT THE APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS HEREBY AUTHORIZE TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS, INCLUDING ANY ALL SUBSEQUENT BUDGETARY TRANSFERS TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROPER CROWN STANDARDS, PARENTAL CONFLICT, PARENTAL STABILITY, PARENTAL EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A SECOND.
>> THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
I WILL NOW OPEN THIS ITEM UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
MS. CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, WE'LL BE MAKING A PRESENTATION? I GUESS THAT'S A YES.
>> JUST A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT A FEEL-GOOD MOMENT.
BUT I KNOW THAT SINCE LAST YEAR WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW, AS I SAID, HE WOULD ADDRESS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE KNOW THAT IS IN TAMARAC AS WELL AS BROWARD COUNTY.
WE TALKED ABOUT INCLUSIONARY ZONING, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON AND WILL BRING FORWARD AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BRINGING FORWARD A RENTAL STRATEGY.
AT ONE OF THE PREVIOUS WORKSHOP I SHARED WITH YOU, OF COURSE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED MY BROWARD COUNTY, THAT SHOW THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC IS DEFICIENT IN ALL AREAS OF INCOME AS IT RELATES TO RENTAL UNITS.
THIS IS WHAT THIS SLIDE SHOWS.
STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE BEST FORUM OR THE BEST STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE TO AMEND THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN.
THAT'S THE LHAP THAT IS GOVERNED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND TO INTRODUCE A NEW STRATEGY AS A PART OF THAT AMENDMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THIS EVENING.
THIS AMENDMENT OF COURSE, WOULD ADDRESS ALL INCOME GROUPS VERY LOW, OR MODERATE INCOME.
CURRENTLY, YOUR LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN, WHICH IS OUR LHAP, IS ONE OF YOUR POLICY DOCUMENTS ONE OF YOUR PLANS, YOU ALSO HAVE THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN THAT GOVERNS YOUR CDBG EXPENDITURE.
THIS PLAN GOVERNS YOUR SHIP EXPENDITURE AND THESE ARE THE FOUR STRATEGIES THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE ADOPTED IN THE PLAN.
WE HAVE A PURCHASE ASSISTANCE, OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB, EMERGENCY REPAIR.
THEN WE HAVE THE DISASTER REPAIR MITIGATION THAT'S ONLY ACTIVATED IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.
STUFF IS PROPOSING THAT WE AMEND AND ADD A FIFTH STRATEGY AND THAT STRATEGY WOULD BE A RENTAL ASSISTANCE STRATEGY.
THIS SLIDE PRETTY MUCH SHOWS YOU HOW IT WOULD WORK.
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IT WOULD BE UP TO $20,000 AWARDED TO INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, AND IT WOULD BE A ONETIME PAYMENT ASSISTANCE TO HELP THEM WITH LEASING OF A UNIT.IT MAY ALSO INCLUDE UTILITY DEPOSITS, SECURITY DEPOSITS, AND EVICTION PREVENTION UP TO SIX MONTHS, NOT TO EXCEED SIX MONTHS AND IF YOU'RE IN A VERY LOW OR LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLD AND HAVE A ONE ADULT WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO ASSIST YOU UP TO NOT TO EXCEED 12 MONTHS.
JUST TO SHARE WITH YOU THE INCOME CHART, YOU CAN SEE THE MEDIAN INCOME IN BROWARD COUNTY IS 82,100 AND THEN THE NEXT COLUMN SHOWS YOU THE EXTREMELY LOW, VERY LOW, LOW AND MODERATE AND THEN AT THE VERY TOP IS THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE HOUSEHOLD AND THEN THAT IS HOW STAFF IS ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU QUALIFY BASED ON WHAT INCOME CATEGORY YOU FALL IN.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS ALLOCATION THE CITY HAS BEEN RECEIVING SINCE WE STARTED RECEIVING SHIP FUNDS.
THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, '23, '24 IS THE HIGHEST ALLOCATION THE CITY WILL RECEIVE AT 831,525.
WE ARE PROPOSING TO ALLOCATE 15% OF THAT FOR THIS STRATEGY, SO THAT WOULD BE $124,728, WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY ASSISTS APPROXIMATELY 25 HOUSEHOLD.
WE KNOW BASED ON THE EMERGENCY RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY MANAGING, WE TYPICALLY SPEND NO GREATER THAN $5,000 ON AVERAGE ON A HOUSEHOLD OR IN AN INDIVIDUAL.
IF WE MAINTAIN THAT SPENDING, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO ASSIST ABOUT 25 HOUSEHOLDS WITH THE 124,728.
THAT'S THE PRESENTATION I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
>> NOT SEEING ANYTHING. LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS?
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5-2.
>> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO ORDINANCES ON SECOND READING.
THIS IS 8A202519, CITY ATTORNEY.
PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.
[8.a TO2519 - An Ordinance of the City of Tamarac, Florida; Granting to Peoples GasSystem, Inc., A Non-Exclusive Natural Gas Franchise Agreement to Use the PublicRights of Way of the City of Tamarac, Florida, And Prescribing the Terms and Conditions Under Which Said Franchise May Be Exercised; Making Findings;Providing for Conflicts; Providing for Scrivener Errors; Providing for Severability; And Providing for An Effective Date.]
>> ITEM 8A IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC GRANT TO PEOPLE'S GAS SYSTEM AND NON-EXCLUSIVE NATURAL GAS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT TO USE THE PUBLIC RIGHTS-OF-WAY OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, ASCRIBING THE TERMS AND CONDITION WHICH SAYS FRANCHISE MAYBE EXERCISE, MAKING FINANCE, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING THE SCRIVENER ERRORS, PROVIDING FOR SUITABILITY, PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
>> THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE THE MOTION ON SECOND, PLEASE.
>> I HAVE A MOTION BY VICE MAYOR.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
THIS ITEM IS AN ITEM ON SECOND READING THEREFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW OPEN, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
THEY SAID ERA, CHIEFS OF STAFF AND SERGIO BU, REGIONAL MANAGER OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS OF TICO PUPILS GAS.
THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
>> THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR. MAYOR GOMEZ?
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 5-0.
>> THANK YOU. MOVING TO 8B202526.
CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE.
>> ITEM 8B AND ALL SO CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA,
[8.b TO2526 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida,amending Chapter 10 of the City of Tamarac Code of Ordinances, entitled “LandDevelopment Code” by amending Article 2 entitled “Zoning Districts”, by specificallyamending Section 10-2.5, entitled “Planned Development District”, to remove density cap limits from the planned development zoning district designation and creating Section 10-2.5(C) to establish Local Activity Center Disbursement Guidelines toallow for the disbursement of residential units from the available units within theLocal Activity Center in accordance with the city’s comprehensive plan ; providing for codification; providing for conflicts; providing for severability; and providing for an effective date.]
AMENDING CHAPTER 10 OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCES ENTITLED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BY AMENDING ARTICLE 2 AND TIME ZONE DISTRICT, MY SPECIFICALLY AMENDING SECTION 10-2.5 ENTITLED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO REMOVE DENSITY CAP LIMITS FROM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONE DISTRICT DESIGNATION, AND CREATING SECTION 102.5C TO ESTABLISH LOCAL ACTIVITIES CENTERED DISBURSEMENT GUIDELINES TO ALLOW THE DISBURSEMENT OF RESIDENTS UNITS FROM AVAILABLE UNITS WITHIN THE LOCAL ACTIVITY CENTER AND CAUSE WITH THE CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PLAN FOR CODIFICATION, PLAN FOR CONFLICTS, PLAN FOR SOVERITY, PLAN FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE.
>> VICE MAYOR WITH THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT WITH A SECOND.
THIS ITEM IS ON SECOND READING PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW OPEN, OTHER COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
MAXINE CALLOWAY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, IS AVAILABLE FOR A PRESENTATION.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
>> YES MAYOR. MS. CALLOWAY, I HAVE A QUESTION, IF IT PLEASES THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER.
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>> IT WILL BUT THE CLOCK WILL BE PUT ON.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION.
>> THEN THERE IS NO PRESENTATION.
>> MS. CALLOWAY, CAN YOU FOR THE RECORD, STATE THAT THE AREA THAT THE DENSITY CAP WILL AFFECT?
>> IT'S IN OUR EXISTING LOCAL ACTIVITY CENTER.
IT'S FOR THE NORTH SIDE OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD FROM UNIVERSITY DRIVE TO 94TH.
>> NO OTHER AREA BUT AS A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, I THINK THERE WAS A DIRECTION GIVEN AT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING TO LOOK AT CREATING OTHER LOCAL ACTIVITY CENTERS IN OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY, SO THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT.
AND I BELIEVE DURING THAT CONVERSATION, IT WAS ONE OF MY DESIRES THAT YOU SPEAK WITH THE DISTRICT 2 COMMISSIONER ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS ON THIS, OBVIOUSLY COULD NOT ASK YOU THAT OUTSIDE OF SUNSHINE SO I'M ASKING YOU NOW TO DISCUSS HIS THOUGHTS IF YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
>> YES, THE CITY MANAGER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER.
I DON'T KNOW. I CAN DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE IF HE WOULD LIKE TO.
>> THIS IS DISCUSSION BETWEEN DISTRICT 2 AND THE CITY MANAGER.
I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHY IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED HERE OTHER THAN YOU GOT THE ANSWER THAT THEY SPOKE, I BELIEVE IT WILL BE UP TO COMMISSIONER WRIGHT TO DETERMINE IF HE WISHES TO SHARE ANYTHING FURTHER.
>> MADAM MAYOR, BECAUSE THE AREA THAT THE DENSITY CAP WOULD TAKE EFFECT WILL HAVE DIRECT IMPACTS TO HIS RESIDENCE, SO I WANT TO HEAR WHAT HIS THOUGHTS ARE THROUGH MISS CALLOWAY OR THROUGH HIM DIRECTLY.
>> BUT PROCEDURALLY, I CANNOT BY ROBERT'S RULES, ASK MY COLLEAGUE A QUESTION DIRECTLY.
>> RIGHT. WELL, THEN ASK COMMISSIONER WRIGHT IF HE WISHES TO SPEAK, HE WILL SPEAK VERSUS GOING THROUGH CITY MANAGER TO SHARE THE CONVERSATION.
IT WOULD BE FOR COMMISSIONER WRIGHT IF HE WISHES TO SPEAK AT THE TIME.
>> BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, COMMISSIONER VICE MARY, YOU'RE UP, IT'S YOUR TIME SO WOULD YOU.
>> IF IT PLEASES YOU MAYOR, TO SUSPEND ROBERT'S RULES TEMPORARILY SO THAT THE COMMISSIONER CAN ANSWER MY QUESTION.
>> QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T REALLY WISH TO SUSPEND ROBERT'S RULES BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T USED THEM THIS EVENING AT ALL AND EVERYBODY IS DESIRE IS TO NOT SLEEP HERE TONIGHT.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE AS LIGHT ON TO SPEAK.
HE HAD NO DESIRE AT THIS TIME IF HE WISHES TO SPEAK HE WILL WHILE HE WAS BEING POLITE FOR YOU.
I AM OBVIOUSLY NOT THE SAME SO IF YOU WOULD COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK WHEN COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS DONE WITH HIS FIVE MINUTES, THEN WE'LL TURN TO YOU.
COMMISSIONER, I'M SURE YOU HAVE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO BRING UP.
>> ACTUALLY MAYOR THAT'S THE ONLY CONTENTION THAT I HAVE.
I THINK THAT REMOVING THE DENSITY CAP IS BOTH A GOOD THING AND A BAD THING.
IT THREATS THE CITY IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
SOME PRECEDENCE MAY FEEL DISENFRANCHISED WHILE IT INCREASES THE ECONOMIC STABILITY OF THE CITY.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WHERE I'M CAUGHT IN THE ROCK AND A HARD PLACE AND THAT IS WHY THE COMMENTARY IS WHERE IT IS TONIGHT BY ASKING WHAT THE DISTRICT 2 COMMISSIONER BELIEVES.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
IF YOU WISH TO SHARE YOUR OPINIONS, PLEASE DO SO.
>> SURE. BASED ON MISS CALLOWAY'S EXPLANATION OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THOUGH A FEW TIMES THIS IS COMING IN FRONT OF US.
I THINK YOU'VE CLARIFIED THE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL CAP IN TERMS OF UNITS, I THINK YOU SAID WITHIN THAT ACTIVITY CENTER THERE'S A UNIT AMOUNT THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED NO MATTER WHAT.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE BEHIND OF ACTIVITY CENTER AND I THINK YOU'VE CLARIFIED THOSE QUESTIONS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF READINGS.
TO ANSWER THE VICE MAYOR'S QUESTIONS, I THINK THOSE QUESTIONS WERE CLARIFIED FROM MY END AND MY PERSPECTIVE.
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>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER DANIEL?
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ONE.
>> THANK YOU. NOW, WE'RE GOING TO OTHER ITEM 10A.
COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, WILL YOU PLEASE SUMMARIZE YOUR ITEM?
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS WE HAVE HEARD RESIDENTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER,
[10.a Vehicle Allowance (City Commission Only) - Discussion with Motion to: 1. reduce the vehicle car allowance; 2. do away with it; 3. use a city-issued vehicle forcity business or 4. IRS mileage reimbursement - 2023 Standard Mileage Rates of$0.655 per mile. Requested by Commissioner Elvin Villalobos]
AS WE ALL HAVE CAMPAIGNED ON THIS ITEM MANY TIMES FOR THE LAST THREE ELECTIONS, I LIKE TO GIVE THIS COMMISSION TO OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE OF THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS.I'M GOING TO GO ONE BY ONE AND TAKE A CONSENSUS IF I'M ALLOWED TO OR EMOTION IF I'M ABLE TO.
WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT OUR VEHICLE ALLOW ONE TO $700 A MONTH.
I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT SO IF I CAN GET CONSENSUS TO REDUCE THE VEHICLE CAR ALLOWANCE.
>> I'M GOING TO JUMP IN HERE WITH A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
YOU HAVE ITEMS 10A, B, AND C, ALL ITEMS THAT ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THE COMMISSION.
>> WE DON'T HAVE BACKUP IN HERE AND TYPICALLY.
>> THERE'S NO BACKUP ACCORDING TO WE STOPPED DOING BACKUP.
>> I'M GOING TO JUST FINISH MY SENTENCE.
DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS TO BE CONSIDERED ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ONE, IT IS A WHOLE PACKAGE, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE ASK OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR CITY TEAM TO GO OUT TO RESEARCH AND COME BACK TO US AT A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS ALL ITEMS WITH INFORMATION ON HOW IT IS HANDLED IN OTHER CITIES AND WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT OUR CITY WILL DO IN A FAIR LINE PROCESS AT THAT TIME.
>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE HAVE DONE THAT.
>> HAVE WE HAVE NOT DIRECTED CITY STAFF TO RESEARCH, BUT OTHER CITIES GET PAID.
AS FAR AS COMMISSIONERS, THEIR PACKAGES, THEIR BENEFITS, I BELIEVE WE HAVE DONE THAT.
>> CITY MANAGER. I THINK I'VE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A BIT.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE DONE A REVIEW OF OUR CITY PACKAGE.
I KNOW THERE WAS A CONVERSATION SEVERAL YEARS AGO REGARDING SALARIES, BUT THE COMPENSATION THAT THE BENEFITS PACKAGE WAS NOT PART OF THAT RESEARCH AND DETERMINATION, WAS IT?
>> MADAM MAYOR WE ROUTINELY CHECKED THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY FOR STAFF SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE HAD DONE THAT FOR CITY COMMISSION.
IF OUR HR DIRECTOR IS HERE, WHICH I DON'T SEE HIM, BUT HE'S HERE.
MAYBE HE CAN REFRESH OUR MEMORY FOR THAT PORTION.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, LORENZO CALHOUN, FOR THE RECORD, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
WE WERE AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, TASKED WITH LOOKING AT COMPETITIVE SALARIES THROUGHOUT THE BROWARD COUNTY SURROUNDING AREA, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECENTLY TAKEN A LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS, IF HIS DESIRE OF THE COMMISSIONERS DIRECTED THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, WE CAN DO THAT.
>> COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, I KNOW YOU HAVE THESE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
>> I'M GOING TO GO ONE BY ONE MAYOR IF I CAN.
>> I TAKE IT THAT YOU WILL NOT ACCEPT MY FRIENDLY REQUEST TOO.
>> RIGHT NOW I'M MAKING A MOTION TO REDUCE THE VEHICLE CAR ALLOWANCE FOR THE COMMISSION.
>> THIS ITEM IS NOT PASSED NOT GOING FORWARD FOR LACK OF A SECOND UNLESS YOU ARE SECONDING, ARE YOU SECONDING THIS ITEM?
>> MAYOR, I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS SECONDED FOR DISCUSSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
>> NO, IT WASN'T SECOND FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE DON'T DO MOTIONS TYPICALLY AT THIS POINT IN TIME SIR.
>> WE ARE DISCUSSING OUR LAST ITEM, I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, HAS A VALID ITEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THEM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HIS OPTIONS.
I DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD DELIVER THIS ITEM.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT AND COME TO A RESOLUTION TONIGHT.
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>> GIVE ME ONE SECOND BEFORE YOU GIVE ME YOUR TWO CENTS.
GIVE ME ONE SECOND BEFORE YOUR TWO CENTS.
>> BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY DISCUSSING IT.
>> CORRECT. YOU'RE DISCUSSING AN ITEM.
THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
THERE'S NO MOTION THAT IS GOING FORWARD, SO THE DISCUSSION IS CONTINUING.
>> THE OTHER ITEMS 10A BASED ON THE COMMISSION, OBVIOUSLY, POLICY AND RULES.
THIS IS TO FIND CONSENSUS, SO THIS BODY CAN GIVE THE MANAGER INSTRUCTION TO COME WITHOUT ACTION ITEM AT THE NEXT COMMISSIONING.
ITEM 10A, 10B CAN BE DISCUSSED SEPARATELY AND CONSENSUS CAN BE DETERMINED IF NOT, THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION JUST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES ON THIS COMMISSION.
>> CORRECT, SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST THE SKY ITEM 10A THAT IS ON DISCUSSION.
>> WHAT WAS BEING ATTEMPTED WAS FOR A CONSENSUS ON ONE AT A TIME FURTHER IS ONE.
THERE'S FOUR ITEMS ON 10A INSTEAD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS MATTER SO IT APPEARS AND WE'RE PLAYING THE CLOCK ON BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT DISCUSSING THIS. GO AHEAD.
>> ABSOLUTELY, MAYOR, I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A SIMPLE ITEM, AND I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT A COMMISSIONER AT ANY TIME CAN BRING AN ITEM TO THIS FOR DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION.
COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS HAS THAT RIGHT AND ALL OF US HAS THAT RIGHT.
IF HE WANTS TO GET RID OF THIS TONIGHT, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT AND IF IT IS THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION TO BRING THIS BACK AS WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DELAY THE INEVITABLE.
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD GET RID OF THE CAR ALLOWANCE.
THE LAST DISCUSSION THAT I HAD WAS BIFURCATING TO BE DECISIVE.
TONIGHT, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE SHOULD GET RID OF THIS CAR LOANS AND IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSIONER TO GET RID OF IT TONIGHT, I BELIEVE THAT HE SHOULD PUSH FOR THAT.
I BELIEVE IT SHOULD HAPPEN TONIGHT.
AGAIN, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION BUT THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE ON THAT ITEM.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE DISCUSSING THE PDA RIGHT NOW COMMISSIONER.
>> NO. WE'RE GOING TO STAY WITH A, B, AND C SINCE IT WAS NOT AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD TO A WORKSHOP ITEM TO DISCUSS THE PACKAGE AS A WHOLE.
YOU'RE ON A AND YOUR FEELING FOR A IS FOR REMOVAL, YOU OPT FOR OPTION 1.
>> TO BE CLEAR, MAYOR MY DESIRE IS AT THE PLEASURE OF THE MANAGER AND TO BE CLEAR, I AM FOR REMOVING THE CAR ALLOWANCE TONIGHT.
>> ONE OPTION OR WE [OVERLAPPING]
>> I HAVEN'T EVEN DISCUSSED MY ITEM AND YET HE'S HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT MY ITEM.
>> COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, YOU ASKED US TO.
>> I HAVEN'T FINISHED DISCUSSING MY ITEM.
>> YOU WANTED US TO DISCUSS REDUCING REMOVING THE CAR LOAN.
>> YES AND I HAVEN'T EXPLAINED ANYTHING [NOISE] AND WE'RE JUMPING INTO SOMEONE ELSE SPEAKING ON MY BEHALF.
>> ACTUALLY THE CONFUSION COMES BECAUSE YOU ASKED FOR A MOTION TO REMOVE IT AND COULD GET CONSENSUS.
>> MY FIRST NIGHT IS TO REDUCE THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE THAT'S NUMBER 1.
IF I DON'T GET CONSENSUS WITH THAT, I WANT TO MOVE TO NUMBER 2.
>> OKAY. BASICALLY, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, WHETHER OR NOT YOU SUPPORT THE REDUCTION OF THE CAR ALLOWANCE, NOT REMOVAL OF IT.
VICE MAYOR, ARE YOU SAYING YOU DO NOT SUPPORT?
>> HE WANTS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION? DO YOU WANT?
>> I WANT TO GO ONE BY ONE TO GET CONSENSUS TO SEE WHERE THEY ALL AGREE ON.
>> YES. OBVIOUSLY, VICE MAYOR BOLTON IS SAYING HE WISHES TO ONLY DISCUSS ONE OF HIS ITEMS VERSUS ONE AT A TIME.
>> THEN VICE MAYOR, YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T WISH TO REDUCE.
>> I DON'T WISH TO REDUCE, I RISK TO REPEAL, NOT REPLACE.
>> OKAY THEN. THIS IS YOUR WHOLE.
>> YOUR ITEM IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WISH TO REDUCE, IS THAT AN OPTION?
>> WHETHER OR NOT [OVERLAPPING]
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>> BUT HE HAS FOUR TOPICS IN ONE.
>> WELL, NO, THERE'S FOUR OPTIONS WITHIN HIS NUMBER 1.
HIS ITEM NUMBER 1 IS VEHICLE ALLOWANCE AND HE'S SAYING THAT THERE ARE FOUR OPTIONS IN IT.
REDUCE THE CAR ALLOWANCE, DO AWAY WITH IT, USE CITY ISSUE VEHICLES FOR BUSINESS OR FOUR DO A MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT AT THE 2023 STANDARD MILEAGE RATES OF 0.0655 MILES PER HOUR AND SO HE IS DOING THIS LINE ITEM FOR CONSENSUS.
>> WE'RE VOTING ON NUMBER 1 OF 10A.
>> WE ARE NOT VOTING, WE'RE SAYING IT'S CONSENSUS OR NOT.
>> THOSE ARE THE FOUR OPTIONS HE GOT RIGHT NOW.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH MY CAR LOANS.
HOWEVER, SINCE HE REALLY HAS AN APPARENTLY BOLTON DO, MAYBE THEY COULD OPT IN AND OPT OUT.
>> I'M GIVING YOU AN OPTION YOU COULD JUST OPT OUT, OPT IN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CHOICES HERE.
>> RIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING ONE BY ONE, AND THAT WAS NOT ONE OF THEM.
RIGHT NOW, THE QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE, ARE YOU AMENABLE TO REDUCING THE VEHICLE LOANS?
>> I'M AMENABLE TO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO BECAUSE YOU WANT TO CHANGE.
I'M AMENABLE TO ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.
>> THIS IS A COMMISSION-BASED SYSTEM.
>> BUT SHE IS GIVING HER OPINION.
>> BUT I'M GIVING YOU MY OPTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE FOUR AND I HAVE ZERO.
SO, MY OPTION IS YOU CAN OPT INTO ANY OF THESE THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO OPT INTO.
>> THAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION HERE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS SAYING WORKSHOP IT.
>> MAYOR, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO END DISCUSSION ON ITEM 10A, 10B, AND 10C AND TO TABLE THIS AND FOR A WORKSHOP.
>> THERE'S NO, SECOND TO THAT.
THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE TABLE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. HEY.
>> I MADE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO WORKSHOP.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.
YOU'RE JUST SAYING I'M TABLING THIS MATTER AND THEN YOU CAN ASK FOR IT TO BE PUT ON WORKSHOP ITEMS SEPARATELY.
>> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW.
>> IS ACTUALLY FOR CONSENSUS ON A WORKSHOP ITEM. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
>> YOU'RE ASKING ME FOR CONSENSUS ON A WORKSHOP ITEM OR IF THEY WANT TO ELIMINATE THE CAR LOANS, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING?
>> NO I'M ASKING YOU FOR CONSENSUS ON A WORKSHOP ITEM.
>> YOU'RE ASKING ME FOR CONSENSUS ON WORKSHOP ITEM.
>> TO PUT THIS ON A WORKSHOP ITEM.
>> I PUT THIS ON A WORKSHOP ITEMS. THIS IS YOUR MOTION AND NOW YOU WANT TO PUT IT TO A WORKSHOP.
YES, SO I'M IN SUPPORT ARE PUTTING INTO A WORKSHOP.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I DO HAVE THREE BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
>> GO AHEAD WITH MY OPTION IN IT SO THE EHLMANN CAN CHOOSE ANYTHING HE WANTS TO DO WITH, THESE THINGS.
>> IT SEEMS, MAYOR, THAT THIS ITEM HAS PASSED.
>> I'M LISTENING TO YOU. COMMISSIONER, MY FACE IS TO YOU, VICE MAYOR, MY FACE SAYS TO YOU, I'M LISTENING TO YOU,.
>> ATTORNEY, THIS ITEM HAS PASSED.
>> VICE MAYOR, I HAVEN'T GIVEN IT UP BY GAVEL RIGHT NOW.
>> WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE CONSENSUS HAS BEEN FOUND, BUT THE MAYOR HAS THE RIGHT TO RECOGNIZE SPEAKERS AS WE GO.
>> THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.
WE'RE GOING TO WORKSHOP, IT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I HATE NUMBER 10 BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD STANDARD WORKSHOPS EVERY TWO WEEKS, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS VERSUS BELABORING THINGS AT THE END OF A COMMISSION MEETING WHERE WE THEN HAVE CERTAIN FORMAT IN PLAY HERE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK FOR US.
IN TRYING TO FIND THAT HAPPY BALANCE.
I'M TRYING TO ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VICE MAYOR TO FINISH OFF HIS COMMENTS SO WE CAN THEN GO TO ATTENDEE.
SO PLEASE, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES OR LESS.
>> OKAY. MAYOR, THE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS HAS MADE A VERY GOOD POINT.
AGAIN, IT'S A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD MY HATS OFF TO HIM.
COMMISSIONER DANIEL MADE A VERY GOOD POINT AS WELL, THAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS HAD FOUR OPTIONS.
I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT AS WELL.
IF WE'RE GOING TO WORKSHOP THIS, WE SHOULD HAVE CLEAR DIRECTIONS.
SINCE I DID NOT GET MY PLEASURE TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT COMMISSIONER DANIEL ON ADDING A OPT-IN OPT-OUT TO THE CAR ALLOWANCE INTO ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS HAS ASKED FOR.
>> THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR, I BELIEVE THE DIRECTIVES THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN
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TO CITY STAFF IS TO REVIEW THE WHOLE THING.ALL OPTIONS, WHETHER THE FOUR, FIVE, MAYBE THEY'RE 10.
WHATEVER OPTIONS YOU HAVE FOR US, PLEASE BRING THEM FORWARD AT A WORKSHOP WHEN EVERYTHING IS READILY AVAILABLE. THANK YOU.
>> [OVERLAPPING] MAY I CREDIFY SOMETHING?
>> THERE NEEDS TO BE A TIME-FRAME.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE WITHIN THIS YEAR.
I REFUSE TO PUT ON OUR STAFF THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE BY TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
>> NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> WE ONLY HAVE ONE WORKSHOP A MONTH.
IF OUR CITY COMMISSION IS WILLING TO COME BACK TO DOING TWO WORKS A MONTH, [OVERLAPPING] THEN WE CAN BE ABLE TO HANDLE BUSINESS AS A CITY FOR CERTAIN ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TO WORKSHOP A LITTLE BIT MORE QUICKLY.
BUT UNTIL SUCH TIME, AND THIS ITEM IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT BE BASED ON THE CITY MANAGER WHO RUNS OUR CITY FOR OUR ADMINISTRATION BE ABLE TO DIRECT OUR STAFF IN A TIMELY MANNER, TO COME BACK TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER FOR BRINGING IT TO A WORKSHOP.
WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT GOING TO DRIVE EVERYBODY ABSOLUTELY INSANE.
NEXT ITEM,10D. VICE MAYOR, PLEASE READ YOUR ITEM.
[10.d A Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida Urging Homeowners Associations to revise its rules and regulations to allow homeowners with the authority to install physical safety barrier in the rear yard for public safety reasons, which include crime prevention and accidental drowning; and providing for an effective date.]
>> IT'S REQUESTING A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, URGENT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS TO REVISE ITS RULES AND REGULATIONS TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, TO ALLOW HOMEOWNERS WITH THE AUTHORITY TO INSTALL PHYSICAL SAFETY BARRIERS IN THE REAR YARD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS, WHICH INCLUDE CRIME PREVENTION AND ACCIDENTAL DROWNING AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SO MAYOR, I'M REQUESTING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY DRAFT A RESOLUTION TO THIS EFFECT.
AGAIN, IT'S WHY I GIVE MY COLLEAGUES SOME BACKGROUND TO THIS.
I'M NOT REQUESTING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY DRAFT AN ORDINANCE.
A LAW WOULD MEAN THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO PUT A FENCE IN THEIR BACKYARDS OR A LAW THAT SAYS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WOULD HAVE TO TELL THEIR RESIDENTS TO PUT A FENCE IN THEIR BACKYARD.
SO WE ARE, THIS IS OUR EXPRESSION.
WE'RE JUST TELLING THEM THAT THIS WOULD BE OUR DESIRE THAT THEY ALLOW THEIR RESIDENTS TO HAVE EVENTS IN THEIR BACKYARD.
HERE IS WHY. IN SHAKER VILLAGE, THE SHAKER VILLAGE COMMUNITY, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A CHILD, FIVE-YEAR-OLD CHILD WHO WAS AUTISTIC, WENT THROUGH THE SCREEN DOOR OF THE HOME AND DROWNED IN A CANAL.
THE FAMILY WAS DISTRAUGHT AND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF THERE WAS A FENCE ERECTED IN THE BACKYARD OF THAT PROPERTY.
SOME HOAS, SOME HOUSES, THEY SIT ON A CANAL.
AND SO IF RESIDENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT UP A FENCE OR THE HOA HAS THE ABILITY TO PUT UP A FENCE, THEN WE CAN PREVENT DROWNING AND ACTIVITIES LIKE THAT.
THE CHILD WAS AUTISTIC, SO HE PRESENTS LIFE IN A DIFFERENT WAY, AND THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIKE THAT AS WELL IN MY DISTRICT AND AROUND THE CITY.
THE SECOND REASON WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
A RESIDENT CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY AND SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS BEING SCAMMED BY PEOPLE WHO SAID THAT THEY WERE FROM FPL.
THEY WERE DRESSED UP IN UNIFORMS AND THEY WERE VERY CONVINCING.
AND WHILE SHE WAS TALKING TO ONE GENTLEMAN IN THE FRONT, ONE GENTLEMAN WENT TO THE BACK OF HER PROPERTY, ACCESSED THE BACK OF HER PROPERTY AND WOULD WANT TO GET INSIDE.
AND SHE HEARD THE ALARM, JUST ANNOUNCED BACK SCREEN DOOR OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND THAT'S WHEN SHE SHUT THE DOOR ON THE FRONT AND
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THE GUY WENT TO THE BACK OF HER HOUSE AND REALIZED THAT SOMEBODY WHO IS TRYING TO GET IN.SO IF THERE WERE A FENCE IN THE BACKYARD, THAT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
OBVIOUSLY SOMETIMES IN THESE SCENARIOS, RESIDENTS DON'T CALL THE POLICE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THEY JUST DON'T CALL THE POLICE FOR THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
THEY GO ON TIME RACK TALK, THEY GO IN TIME RACK POST.
AND THEY [LAUGHTER] DISCUSS THESE THINGS AS IF THESE VENUES ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE THIRD REASON IS THERE'S A RESIDENT IN CENTRAL PARK WHO HAS TAKEN ME TO HER HOUSE SEVERAL TIMES.
SHE'S BROUGHT ME TO THE BACKYARD OF HER HOUSE, WHICH ALSO SITS ON A CANAL BECAUSE SOME OF THE OLDER HOUSES ARE MAINLAND 7, AS YOU KNOW MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST AN AMAZING MAN, YOU KNOW EVERYWHERE.
[LAUGHTER] SO CENTRAL PARK, THE NEW HOUSES, THE BACK OF IT, SOME OF THEM FACE MAINLAND 7 AND THERE IS A CANAL BACK THERE AS WELL.
THEY WOULD WANT TO PUT A FENCE IN THEIR BACKYARD.
WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING OVER TO MAINLAND 7, THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS WHO CANNOT PUT UP A FENCE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO.
BUT ONE LADY FOR SAFETY REASONS OR FOR PRIVACY REASONS, HAS PLANTED A WHOLE LOT OF TREES TO COVER HER BACKYARD, AND HER NEIGHBORS THINK THAT IT'S NOT RIGHT.
CENTRAL PARK RESIDENTS THINK THAT IS NOT RIGHT AND IT'S NOT FAIR.
SO IF WE GIVE HOAS, OUR EXPRESSION AS A RESOLUTION TO SAY, WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE, UPDATE YOUR BYLAWS TO PREVENT DROWNING, TO PREVENT CRIME, TO PREVENT ALL THESE ISSUES.
WE WOULD LIVE IN A BETTER CITY.
I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SPEAKING WITH KATE JOHNSON OVER E-MAIL.
I WAS TELLING CAROL THROUGH THE BREAK THAT I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE DR. JOHNSON COMING TO THE MEETINGS AND HER LEADERSHIP STYLE.
SHE ALSO MENTIONED WHY NOT FRONT YARDS, OR WHY NOT SIDE YARDS? SO WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY IS BRINGING THIS BACK AND TALKING TO STAFF ABOUT THIS, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CONVERSATION TO BE HAD OF WHETHER OR NOT SIDE YARDS CAN BE DONE IN THIS, BACKYARDS ONLY, OR LOGISTICALLY, HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN? BUT FOR NOW, THIS IS JUST FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS AND FOR CRIME PREVENTION.
>> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.
>> THIS IS THE ATTORNEY TO THE MAYOR.
WE DON'T REGULATE HOAS, THE DBPR DOES.
ARE WE NOT CROSSING BARRIERS HERE, OR PERHAPS EVEN GET SUED BY AN ASSOCIATION OR BY A MEMBER OF ASSOCIATION, BECAUSE IF I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION, AND I FORCE HOMEOWNERS TO PUT FENCES, CAN THEY NOT SUE ME, THE CITY, IF WE IMPOSE ANYTHING RELATED TO OR LEADING UP TO THAT? DOES THAT PUT US AT RISK FOR ANYTHING BECAUSE WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER NO HOAS?
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, IN TERMS OF THIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION, IT'S NOT A MANDATE AS URGING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGE HOMEOWNERS TO PERMIT HOMEOWNERS TO INSTALL SAFETY BARRIERS IF THE BYLAWS PERMIT, OR THEY CAN AMEND THE BYLAWS.
SECOND OF ALL, RESPECT TO PERMITS OR ANYTHING THAT THE CITY ISSUE UNDER FLORIDA LAW, THE CITY IS IMMUNE FROM LIABILITY FOR ISSUING PERMITS.
I DON'T SEE ANY POTENTIAL LIABILITY.
BUT I BELIEVE THIS LEGISLATION RIGHT NOW, IS NOT A LAW.
I THINK THE VICE MAYOR CLEARLY INDICATES THAT IT'S MORE OF JUST TOGETHER SUGGESTION[OVERLAPPING] CORRECT.
>> AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, MOST CHANGES IN BYLAWS REQUIRE NEARLY 75%, IF NOT MORE, OF VOTING BODY OF HOMEOWNERS.
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>> I APPRECIATE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, VICE MAYOR.
ACTUALLY, SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT REALIZE ONE OF THE REASONS I CAME INTO TAMARAC UNIVERSITY AND STARTED MY LITTLE PATH IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO FENCE IN MY OWN BACKYARD BECAUSE I LIVED ON A CANAL AND I WAS WORRIED ABOUT ANY KIDS I MAY HAVE AND ANY DOGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE COMMUNITY IS VERY STRICT AGAINST FENCING AND IT IS VERY HARD TO GET RULES AND REGULATIONS CHANGED AS COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS WAS JUST STATING.
YOU NEED TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BUY-IN FROM THE COMMUNITY.
SOME OF THEM ARE 100% AS ACTUALLY SHAKER VILLAGE IS FOR CERTAIN RULES AND REGULATIONS IN THAT COMMUNITY AND EVEN FOR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES SUCH AS OBVIOUSLY THE WOODLANDS WHERE I LIVE.
WE CANNOT FORCE IT UPON THEM IN A SUGGESTION EVEN THROUGH A RESOLUTION.
QUITE HONESTLY, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE, RESOLUTION IS REALLY NOT WORTH THE PAPER THAT IS WRITTEN ON WHEN WE CAN'T DO MUCH.
HOWEVER, BEING SAID AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, I WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE THIS COMMISSION WOULD SUPPORT A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN INSTEAD.
ONE THAT BASICALLY HAS THROUGH OUR TAMAGRAM, HAS THOROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, HAS THE PUSHING FOR PEOPLE TO PUT UP, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR, WHETHER IT'S THEIR POOLS, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME KIDS ALSO IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY PASS AWAY FROM FALLING INTO THE POOL AND PUTTING IN MAYBE SOME HELPFUL HINTS FOR PARENTS WHO HAVE CHILDREN OR MAYBE CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS OF WHAT KIND OF SERVICES CAN BE PROVIDED FOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MAY HEAR THE BELL WHEN THE CHILD GOES THROUGH A SCREEN OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT AND DO IT AS A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN RATHER THAN A RESOLUTION WHICH DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY WEIGHT OR ENFORCEMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COMMISSION TO DO WITH SUPPORT.
MAYBE THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR OUR NEXT TAMAGRAM INSTEAD OF ALL OF US WRITING ANYTHING SEPARATE, WE'VE ALREADY DONE APRIL, MAY, AND JUNE, MAYBE JULY AND AUGUST.
INSTEAD OF US WRITING OUR OWN PIECES, ALL FIVE OF OUR PAGES HAVE SOME SPECIAL AWARENESS ON WATER SAFETY, WATER BARRIERS, AND ALL THE LIKE AND THAT COULD ALSO THEN BE ONE WAY TO SHOW A UNIFORM COMMISSION AND NOT BE PUTTING A RESOLUTION THAT NONE OF OUR ASSOCIATIONS WILL BE ABLE TO REALLY DO MUCH WITH.
>> MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND YOUR INPUT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE RESOLUTION, WE CAN MENTION THAT THE CITY WOULD BE SPONSORING OR ENCOURAGING AN INFORMATION CAMPAIGN, SO IT ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME THING.
AS WITH THE PARKING ORDINANCE, THAT NOT ALL COMMUNITIES ARE CREATED EQUAL.
THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES WHO REQUIRE 50%.
THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES WHO REQUIRE 100%.
THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES WHO REQUIRE TWO-THIRDS.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO THE COMMUNITIES IS THAT IT IS OUR SUGGESTION THAT YOU DO THIS AND WHATEVER COMMUNITY IS EASIEST TO DO IT IN, IT SAVES A LIFE.
IT PREVENTS CRIME IN MAYBE THAT ONE COMMUNITY OR THAT TWO COMMUNITY.
IN A SHORT RADIUS IN MY DISTRICT, WE HAVE OVER 40 HOAS.
WE CAN'T JUST TALK ABOUT ONE, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT ONE OR TWO OR THREE THAT IS EASIER IN.
I BELIEVE THAT YOUR COMMENTS ARE GREAT.
I ACCEPT THOSE THAT WE COULD PUT THAT INTO THE RESOLUTION AND MAYBE IT WILL BE WORTH MORE THAN PAPER BUT NOT THE TAMAGRAM APART. I'M NOT THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> WELL, YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP YOUR PAGE.
I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE GIVING UP OUR PAGE.
NOBODY REALLY CARES WHAT WE WRITE IN THERE, BUT ANYWAY.
>> THEY ACTUALLY DO. PEOPLE ACTUALLY READ IT.
I DON'T REALLY [OVERLAPPING] ANYWAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE TAMAGRAM PAGES FOR OUR SPECIFIC LITTLE PAGES.
BUT ANYHOW, I DON'T SUPPORT PUTTING ANYTHING IN THERE ABOUT OUR HOAS UNLESS IT'S JUST A GENERAL IDEA IN THERE ABOUT HOAS COULD DO THIS VERSUS SAYING THAT THEY.
WHEN WE'RE URGING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO REVISE ITS RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT IS MORE SPECIFIC TO THEM INSTEAD OF A SUGGESTION OF, HOMEOWNERS HERE'S WHAT YOU DO, RESIDENTS HERE'S WHAT YOU DO, AND ASSOCIATIONS HERE'S WHAT YOU COULD DO.
BECAUSE ALSO AS I FIND IT A LITTLE BIT HYPOCRITICAL WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT WANTING TO ENFORCE AND DO THE PARKING REGULATION, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY PRESSURE ON THE $21 THAT YOUR CONCERN ABOUT.
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YET IF WE URGE THE ASSOCIATIONS TO ENFORCE HAVING FENCING, FENCES COSTS A LOT MORE MONEY THAN PARKING.LET'S NOT TRY TO PLAY THAT NOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE SUPPORTING OF MY PARKING SITUATION WHERE YOU PUT IT VERY PLAINLY THAT YOU DON'T.
BUT IN GENERAL BACK TO THIS, I STILL THINK THAT RESOLUTIONS, IF YOU WANT TO WORD IT, I WILL SUPPORT ONE THAT HAS NOTHING OF THE SORT THAT FORCES REGULATIONS TO CHANGE THEIR RULES OR LOOK AT THEIR RULES OF JUST BEING AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.
THAT WOULD BE AS FAR AS I WOULD BE ABLE TO GO.
>> MAYOR, IF YOU READ THE LANGUAGE CAREFULLY, IT SAYS URGING THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO REVISE EACH RULES, TO ALLOW; NOT TO ENFORCE.
WE ARE ALLOWING ANY RESIDENT WHO CAN AFFORD IT TO PUT A FENCE IN THEIR YARD.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
I THINK IT PROMOTES EVERYTHING THAT WE MENTIONED.
IT IS ONLY ALLOWING THE RESIDENTS TO DO IT; IS NOT FORCING RESIDENTS TO DO IT.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH.
>> I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SAY AND I STILL HAVE MY TIME AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO ACT AS THE PRESENTER.
BUT THE FACT OF THE [NOISE] CITY RULES ALLOW FOR FENCING, OUR CITY ORDINANCES ALLOW FOR FENCING, OUR COMMUNITIES ARE THE ONES THAT GET TO DECIDE IF THE RULES NEED TO CHANGE.
WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT, BUT WE'RE ON THE GENERAL SAME PAGE, BUT JUST NOT PUTTING WORDS IN THERE TO URGE ASSOCIATIONS TO CHANGE THEIR RULES.
IF IT IS WORDED IN A PROPER MANNER WHERE IT SHOWS THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD DO WHAT THEY CAN, IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE IF ASSOCIATIONS AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY COULD TALK TO THEIR ASSOCIATIONS AND GET SOME CHANGES IN THE RULES TO ALLOW FOR FENCING.
I AM NOT SUPPORTIVE [OVERLAPPING] IN OTHER WORDING.
>> MAYOR WE'RE JUST ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT IT WHEN IT COMES BACK, WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT SEMANTICS AND TAKING OUT WORDS AND ADDING WORDS.
>> NO, BECAUSE IT NEVER GETS DRAFTED IN THAT RESPECT AND THEN YOU WIND UP HAVING A WHOLE DISAGREEMENT IN AN ARGUMENT AT THAT TIME, COMMISSIONER, WRIGHT? YOU ARE ACTUALLY.
>> NO. ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER DANIEL, IT WAS COMMISSIONER DANIEL, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, COMMISSIONER, WRIGHT.
EVEN THOUGH THE RESOLUTION MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY POWER IS JUST SUGGESTION.
I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH RESIDENTS BEING ABLE TO FENCE THEIR YARD, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY AND PREVENTING CRIME.
I ALSO DON'T LOVE YOUR IDEAS ABOUT HAVING A PUSH TO REMIND RESIDENTS ABOUT WATER SAFETY, AND WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIAL NEW CHILD OR ANY CHILD, BECAUSE SOME CHILDREN, YOU TELL THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEY DON'T GET IT.
YOU HAVE TO CONSTANTLY SAY SO IS ANY CHILD.
THE RULES WHEN IT COMES TO WATER WHEN LEAVING YOUR HOME AND THE FENCING WOULD ACTUALLY BE AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER TO KEEP THEM SAFE.
I THINK BOTH IDEAS ARE ACTUALLY GREAT.
I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU BOTH WANT THE SAME THING.
>> COMMISSIONER DANIEL, AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, DO YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THE HOME RULE? CORRECT? [NOISE]
>> ARE WE UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOME RULE?
>> THE WAY I SEE IT IS THE WAY IT'S URGING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS TO REVISE THEIR RULES AND REGULATION, IS LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE TELLING THE CITY, WHICH WE FIGHT FOR SO MANY TIMES, EVERY DAY, EVERY WEEK, EVERY MONTH, EVERY YEAR FOR THEM NOT TO TELL US HOW TO RUN OUR CITY.
THIS HERE IS READING, URGING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO REVISE ITS RULES AND REGULATIONS TO ALLOW HOMEOWNERS WITH THE AUTHORITY TO INSTALL PHYSICAL BARRIERS, WHICH THEY'RE ALREADY ALLOWED TO DO ANYWAYS.
WE DON'T WANT THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TELL US WHAT TO DO BUT YET THIS IS SAYING, WE'RE TYING THE ASSOCIATIONS WHICH IS THE LOWER BOTTOM OF AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
JUST WANT TO ENTER FOR THE RECORD.
>> HOMEOWNERS PREEMPTION WHERE THE STATE LAW
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SUPERSEDES THE LOCAL LAW AND IF YOU WANT TO GO DEEPER, WE CAN SEE THE TENTH AMENDMENT, WHICH GIVES THE RIGHT TO OUR NOT VESTED IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.IT'S IN THE POWER OF THE STATE AND THE PEOPLE.
I GET THAT POINT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT HIS LANGUAGE IS DEMANDING OR SAYING THAT YOU MUST DO THIS.
THE WORD URGE AND I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY CLARIFIED THAT IT IS NOT SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO, HE'S JUST URGING WHICH IS SIMILAR I THINK, TO THE MAYOR'S CAMPAIGN WHERE SHE'S SAYING, LET'S DO AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.
I THINK EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE BASED ON MY INTERPRETATION.
WE ALL WANT THE BEST BUT WE ARE NOT FORCING THEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORCE THEM, THIS IS AMERICA AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S A LOT OF FREEDOMS. I THINK THAT POINT IS NOT NECESSARILY VALID AND I THINK WHAT THE VICE MAYOR IS TRYING TO DO, IT'S A GOOD COURSE AND I WILL SHARE MY TIME GRAM PAGE WITH THE MAYOR IN TERMS OF AWARENESS, I AM OPEN TO DOING THAT AS WELL.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT AND I AM, AS PEOPLE KNOW, I'M NOT REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF RESOLUTIONS.
I AM TRYING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE RESOLUTION, BUT I HAVE TROUBLE SUPPORTING IT WITH THE WORDS FLORIDA URGING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO REVISE ITS RULES AND REGULATIONS TO ALLOW THE HOMEOWNERS' AUTHORITY.
WE WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES, WE WANT TO PUT IT CHANGED THE WORDING TO ENCOURAGE HOMEOWNERS AND THEIR ASSOCIATIONS TO DISCUSS CHANGING RULES, TO ALLOW FOR FENCING, INSTALLING BARRIERS, I'D BE ALL FOR IT.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP URGING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS TO REVISE ITS RULES AND REGULATIONS TO ALLOW, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT, AND ESPECIALLY KNOWING IN DISTRICT 1 AS WELL, THERE ARE A LOT OF ASSOCIATIONS WHO DON'T ALLOW FOR THE FENCING BECAUSE OF THEIR MOWING OF THEIR LAWNS AND BECAUSE OF THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND THE ISSUE THAT ARE THERE.
IF WE WRITE RESOLUTIONS THAT WE ARE KNOWING THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN WORDING THAT SAYS URGING OUR ASSOCIATIONS TO DO THESE ROLES, WE'RE CREATING SOME CONFLICT TO THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO REPRESENT, WHICH IS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
AS I SAID, VICE MAYOR, I'M TRYING TO GET TO A YES ON AN ITEM THAT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME, I WILL GET TO A YES AND A RESOLUTION PROVIDED THOSE WORDS ARE NOT THERE.
>> THAT'S OKAY MAYOR AND THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTARY.
I'VE URGED THIS COMMISSION FOR A WHILE NOW, TO BE COLLEGIATE AND IT HAS NOT HAPPENED.
I CAN ENCOURAGE THIS COMMISSION TO BE COLLEGIATE AND STILL DOES NOT HAPPEN.
URGING AND ENCOURAGING IS THE SAME WORD.
HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT PUTTING THIS IN AN ORDINANCE, WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN A RESOLUTION, WHETHER WE USE URGING OR ENCOURAGING IS STILL A RESOLUTION IS NOT A LAW.
IT'S NOT FORCING THEM TO DO ANYTHING.
IT'S NOT PREEMPTING THEIR RIGHT AND AS MATTER OF FACT, HOME RULE, WE ARE THE ONES CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE AND SO WE ARE SO CLOSE THAT WE SHOULD SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE IN DANGER AND ACTUALLY HELP THEM.
WE'RE NOT THE STATE URGING WE'RE THE CITY URGINGS.
I'M GLAD THAT THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP THAT POINT FOR HOME RULE THAT ACTUALLY HELPS MY CAUSE, HELPS THE MY POINT.
I DON'T THINK HE UNDERSTANDS HOME RULES QUITE WELL, BUT YOU AND I GET IT.
HE'S BEEN TO TELL US HAS HE ONCE? THANK YOU SO MUCH. [OVERLAPPING] I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> WE GET SO FAR AND THEN WE FALL SO FAR BEHIND.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY [NOISE] CONSENSUS.
>> I'M NOT GETTING ANY SENSE OF CONSENSUS ON [OVERLAPPING] OTHER THAN WE KNOW WE NEED AWARENESS.
>> DID YOU GO DOWN [OVERLAPPING]?
>> YES, I AM. I KNOW YOU HATE IT.
>> BEAUTIFUL MAYOR, I ACTUALLY LOVE IT.
>> SINCE THIS IS YOUR ITEM IS ON THE RESOLUTION WITH THE WORDING AS IT IS WRITTEN HERE. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE YES FOR IT?
>> YES, MADAM MAYOR. WITH THE INFORMATION CAMPAIGN AS YOU SUGGESTED, BECAUSE, I'M AMENABLE TO BRIDGING THE GAP WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
>> BUT YOU'RE NOT AMENABLE TO THE WORDING CHOICE, WHICH MAKES NO DIFFERENCE ACCORDING TO YOU IF YOU USE URGE OR JUST ENCOURAGE.
>> BUT SO IF IT SAYS SEMANTICS, THEN WHY CAN'T YOU GET IT IF YOU WANT TO BE COLLEGIAL TO GET WHAT YOU'D LIKE?
>> ATTORNEY, URGING OR ENCOURAGING IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
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>> THERE IS A SENSE OF URGENCY IN URGING VERSUS.
>> URGING OR ENCOURAGING, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
>> NO VICE MAYOR. I THINK THE REASON WE HAVE THIS PROCESS OF ALLOWING A PROPOSED RESOLUTION OR ITEM TO COMMIT TO IS TO DEBATE AND EVENTUALLY TO GET A CONSENSUS.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT. I THINK THIS IS NOT MY PURVIEW YOU GUYS DEBATE IT.
>> I URGE AND ENCOURAGE THIS COMMISSION TO DO A BETTER JOB IS THE SAME THING TO ME.
IF YOU WANT THE WORDS CHANGED.
YOU THINK THAT IT HAS MORE WEIGHT.
I'LL CHANGE THE WORD URGING TO ENCOURAGING AND OF COURSE, ADD YOUR INFORMATION CAMPAIGN IN THE RESOLUTION AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT'LL GET YOUR SUPPORT WITH THAT TO THAT END.
BEAUTIFUL MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH [LAUGHTER].
>> YES WOULD URGE AND YES BE ENCOURAGING.
>> YOU DON'T GET BOTH [LAUGHTER].
BECAUSE ENCOURAGING HAS THE CONSENSUS AND URGE DOES NOT.
>> OH MY GOODNESS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 10:15 RUN AND ACTUALLY DRIVE HOME SAFELY THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
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