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[00:00:02]

GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

IT IS NOW 7:00 PM ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 11TH.

[CALL TO ORDER]

AND WELCOME TO OUR COMMISSION MEETING.

I WILL ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO WELCOME OUR NEW CITY ACTING CITY CLERK, KIMBERLY DILLON.

WELCOME TO THE DAIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. NOW, I'LL ASK YOU TO CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

SURE.

GOOD EVENING. AND NOW IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND, COMMISSIONER ANN PLACKO WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND WE WILL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE RIGHT AFTERWARDS.

THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED.

[1. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT]

WE WILL NOW TURN TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY FOR YOUR REPORT.

NOTHING TO REPORT MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COMMISSION. THANK YOU.

[2. CITY MANAGER REPORT]

CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU. FIRST, WE HAVE A HOME SPRINKLER WEEK PROCLAMATION REQUESTED BY FIRE INSPECTOR TOMMY DIMOPOULOS.

THIS PROCLAMATION WAS REQUESTED BY OUR FIRE MARSHAL TOMMY DIMOPOULOS, WHEREAS THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION'S FIRE SPRINKLER INITIATIVE AND HOME FIRE SPRINKLER COALITION HAVE DESIGNATED THE WEEK OF MAY 15 TO 21 2022 AS HOME FIRE SPRINKLER WEEK.

AND. WHEREAS, BETWEEN 2015 2019, MORE THAN ONE QUARTER OF THE REPORTED FIRES OCCURRED IN HOME ENVIRONMENTS.

IN ADDITION, THREE FOURTHS OF THE CIVILIAN FIRE DEATHS 75%, AND ALMOST THREE FOURTHS OF THE REPORTED CIVILIAN FIRE INJURIES, 72% WERE CAUSED BY HOME FIRE STRUCTURES.

AND WHEREAS, IN 2020, THERE WERE 356,500 FIRES IN RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS NATIONWIDE, RESULTING IN 2580 HOME FIRE DEATHS AND 11,500 HOME FIRE INJURIES.

AND WHEREAS, RESEARCH INDICATES THE RISK OF DYING DECREASES BY ABOUT 82% IN A HOME EQUIPPED WITH RESIDENTIAL FIRE SPRINKLERS AND CAN REDUCE PROPERTY LOSS BY OVER 95%. AND.

WHEREAS, BY TAKING PART IN THE NATIONAL WEEK OF ACTION, LET US RECOGNIZE THAT BY PROTECTING NEW HOMES WITH FIRE SPRINKLERS WILL MAKE THE FUTURE SAFER FOR RESIDENTS, FIRST RESPONDERS AND ENTIRE COMMUNITIES FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

NOW, THEREFORE, I AM MICHELLE JAY GOMEZ, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMISSION, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 15 THROUGH 21ST, 2022, AS HOME FIRE SPRINKLER WEEK IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND COMMEND THE TAMARACK COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION DIVISION AND ITS COMMUNITY PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE FLORIDA FIRE SPRINKLER COALITION, THE NATIONAL FIRE SPRINKLER ASSOCIATION AND THE FLORIDA FIRE SPRINKLER ASSOCIATION THAT ROUTINELY LEND THEIR INVALUABLE SERVICES AND TRAINING TO OUR INDUSTRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WILL TAKE JUST A REALLY QUICK SECOND.

SO THE MAJORITY OF FIRE DEATHS OCCUR IN OUR HOMES WHERE WE BELIEVE WE ARE THE SAFEST AND IN FACT, WE ARE NOT.

HOME FIRE SPRINKLERS ARE NOT A NEW THING, BUT THEY'RE NOT A VERY COMMON THING.

WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT AND EDUCATE AND MAKE IT MORE OF AN INCENTIVE TO INSTALL THIS.

WE HAVE MANY PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AT TAMARACK THAT WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THIS LIFE SAVING DEVICE IN.

SO WE ARE VERY PROUD TO HAVE HAVE THE COMMISSION AND MAYOR SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

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AND NEXT UP IS OUR PROCLAMATION REQUESTED BY JOHN E.

DOUGHERTY, ACTING PUBLIC SERVICES DIRECTOR.

SAME OFFER. DO YOU WANT TO READ IT? OKAY. WHEREAS PUBLIC SERVICES PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELLBEING OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

AND. WHEREAS, THIS YEAR THE THEME OF PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IS READY AND RESILIENT.

WHEREAS THESE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ENGINEERS, MANAGERS AND EMPLOYEES AT ALL LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING, IMPROVING AND PROTECTING OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION, WATER SUPPLY, WATER TREATMENT AND SOLID WASTE SYSTEMS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL TO OUR CITIZENS.

AND WHEREAS, IT IS IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST FOR THE CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS AND CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND TO MAINTAIN A PROGRESSIVE INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS, THE YEAR 2022 MARKS THE 62ND ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION, CANADIAN PUBLIC PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, I. MICHELLE J.

GOMEZ, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMISSION, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 17 THROUGH 23, 2022, AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION AND CANADIAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS AND CEREMONIES DESIGNED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. JUST REAL QUICKLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOGNITION OF PUBLIC WORKS WEEK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

SO.

THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. ANYTHING FURTHER? THANK YOU MAYOR. YES, WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS THAT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WANTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE.

THROUGH A DONATION TO THE CITY BY THE TAMARAC PARKS AND RECREATION FOUNDATION.

WE NOW HAVE A SECOND US FLAG RETIREMENT BOX LOCATED IN THE CITY.

THE US FLAG RETIREMENT BOXES ARE LOCATED AT MAINLAND'S PARK AND VETERANS PARK.

PLEASE NOTE THAT WHILE VETERANS PARK IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THAT BOX IS TEMPORARILY LOCATED AT TAMARAC PARK.

PLEASE JOIN US AND ENJOY A FUN NIGHT WITH A MOVIE IN THE PARK AT THE TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX AS WE SHOW ENCANTO ON THE BIG SCREEN.

THAT WILL HAPPEN ON FRIDAY, MAY 13 AT 8 P.M.

AND ITS FREE EVENT.

COME OUT TO THE 2022 BICYCLE SAFETY RODEO ON SATURDAY, MAY 14.

THIS FUN AND FREE EVENT WILL INCLUDE BIKE RACES, INSPECTIONS AND OBSTACLE COURSE AND MORE.

WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE AT THE TAMARACK SPORTS COMPLEX.

9901 NORTHWEST, 77TH STREET AT 9:30 A.M..

AND DON'T FORGET YOUR HELMET.

LEARN HOW TO BE SAFE IN AND AROUND THE WATER BY ATTENDING OUR OPERATIONS SWIM WATER SAFETY EXPO ON SATURDAY, MAY 21ST FROM 10 A.M.

TO 1:00 PM AT THE CAPORELLA AQUATIC CENTER.

ENJOY WATER ACTIVITIES, SWIM TECHNIQUES AND SURVIVAL BASICS.

THIS EVENT IS ALSO FREE.

PRE-REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED AT TAMARAC.ME/EVENTS.

AND LASTLY, PLEASE JOIN US FOR OUR MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY ON MONDAY, MAY 30TH, WHERE WE WILL PAY TRIBUTE TO THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOM.

THIS YEAR, THE EVENT HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER.

THE CEREMONY WILL BEGIN AT 10:30 A.M.

AND WILL BE FOLLOWED WITH A CONCERT BY THE VICTORY DOLLS.

RESERVE YOUR SEAT AT WWW.TAMARAC.ME/EVENTS OR CALL 9545973625. SPACE IS LIMITED.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON OUR EVENT, PLEASE VISIT TAMARAC DOT ORG SLASH SLASH SPECIAL EVENTS.

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AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT MAYOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CITY ATTORNEY. WE NOW GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

[3. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION]

WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE RULES OF THE ROAD? YES MADAM MAYOR. THEY'RE SET FORTH UP ON THE SCREEN FOR EVERYONE TO FOLLOW ALONG.

AND THE RULES UNDER OUR CODE ARE THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK ONLY AT TIMES DESIGNATED BY THE MAYOR OR THE PRESIDING OFFICER.

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SHALL STEP TO THE FLOOR MICROPHONE AND STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN AN AUDIBLE TONE FOR THE CLERK'S RECORD.

IN LIEU OF THEIR PHYSICAL ADDRESS, THEY CAN ALSO PROVIDE THE CITY IN WHICH THEY RESIDE.

REMARKS SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE QUESTIONS UNDER DISCUSSION UNLESS SUCH REMARKS COMING DURING THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SECTION OF THE MEETING.

DURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK TO ANY ISSUE THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

DURING THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING, SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES.

DURING THIS TIME, THERE WILL BE A 30 MINUTE AGGREGATE TIME LIMIT FOR THIS ITEM AND SPEAKERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO SIGN UP IN ADVANCE WITH CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THEIR PARTICIPATION. FURTHERMORE, ALL REMARKS SHALL BE ADDRESSED TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS A BODY THROUGH THE MAYOR AND NOT TO ANY MEMBER THEREOF.

CUMULATIVE AND REPETITIVE TESTIMONY OR STATEMENTS SHOULD BE AVOIDED ON ANY MATTER.

PERSONS OF THE SAME POSITION AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MAY SIMPLY STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE POSITIONS WITH WHICH THEY AGREE.

ANY PERSON MAKING DISRUPTIVE AND IMPERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR WHO SHALL BECOME BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COMMISSION AND REFUSES TO STOP, MAY BE REQUESTED TO LEAVE THE MEETING BY THE CITY COMMISSION.

PERSONS, WHO'S ALLOTTED TIME TO SPEAK, HAS EXPIRED SHALL IT BE SO ADVISED BY THE CITY CLERK TO CONCLUDE? PUBLIC HEARINGS CONSISTS OF THOSE AGENDA ITEMS WHERE THE PUBLIC MAY PARTICIPATE.

THE PUBLIC SHALL SPEAK ONLY ON THE AGENDIZED SUBJECT. SPEAKING TIME FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IS LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES FOR ANY PARTICULAR TOPIC.

ADDITIONAL TIME MAY BE ADDED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHALL NOT DELEGATE OR GIVE THEIR TIME OR ANY PORTION THERE OF TO ANOTHER PARTY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

THE CITY COMMISSION MAY SET AN AGGREGATE TIME LIMIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN AN ISSUE HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS QUASI JUDICIAL.

PUBLIC REMARKS SHALL ONLY BE HEARD DURING THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING.

THAT HAS BEEN PROPER NOTICE, FOR THAT MATTER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CAROL MENDELSOHN.

CAROL MENDELSOHN, WOODMONT.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES FOR YOUR LOSS.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR COMMISSIONERS.

I STAND BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WITH A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN I HAD AFTER LEAVING THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING.

WHEN I LEFT, THE LIST OF NEGATIVE ADJECTIVES THAT I WOULD HAVE ORIGINALLY ADDRESSED THE COMMISSION WITH FAR EXCEEDED MY THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.

THAT WOULD SERVE NO PURPOSE.

WITH MORE THAN TWO DECADES OF DEALING WITH CHALLENGING PERSONALITIES AND DIFFICULT SITUATIONS.

I HAVE LEARNED THAT I CANNOT CONTROL WHAT OTHERS DO.

I CAN ONLY CONTROL MY REACTION TO IT.

SO HERE WE ARE.

THE STATEMENT WHEN THEY GO LOW, WE GO HIGH RESONATES HERE AND NOW.

I WISH TO COMMEND THE COMMISSIONERS WHO CONTINUALLY EXHIBIT PROFESSIONALISM, PATIENCE AND RESPECT FOR THE DUTIES ENTRUSTED TO YOU BY THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED YOU AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND YOU CONSTITUENTS KNOW ALSO.

SO I DON'T NEED TO CALL OUT YOUR NAMES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ONE COMMISSIONER TOLD ME YOU ARE THE PERSON ALWAYS CRITICIZING US.

I'M NOT HERE TO CRITICIZE.

IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION, I AM HERE TO ASK YOU TO LOOK WITHIN YOURSELF AND REFLECT ON A WAY YOU WISH TO BE VIEWED.

TO SIMPLY LIVE UP TO THE RESPONSIBILITY BESTOWED UPON YOU BY THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVED IN YOU AND VOTED FOR YOU.

I ASK THAT YOU SIMPLY DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOUR JOB RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE GOOD OF THIS GREAT CITY.

OUR CITY, ITS CITIZENS, EXPECT AND DESERVE THAT YOU SIMPLY DO YOUR JOB FOR HOWEVER LONG YOU HOLD THAT SEAT.

NO ONE EXPECTS KUMBAYA.

JUST RESPECT AND DECENCY AND FULFILLING YOUR JOB RESPONSIBILITIES AS REFLECTED IN OUR CITY'S MISSION AND VISION.

THE COMMISSION IS EXPECTED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CITY'S AGENDA RESPONSIBLY, WITHOUT THEATRICS.

WE HAVE MANY GREAT EVENTS AND INITIATIVES THAT ARE CONSTANTLY OVERSHADOWED BY THE POOR BEHAVIOR OF THE FEW.

THE HARD WORKING TAMARAC STAFF WHO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THEIR DAILY RESPONSIBILITIES DESERVE THAT AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS.

I CANNOT CHANGE ANYONE'S BEHAVIOR.

INSTEAD, I'M REACHING OUT TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR CITY AND I URGE EVERY PERSON ABLE TO VOTE IN TAMARAC TO DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE FOR OUR CITY.

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YOUR VOICE MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE A DIFFERENCE BY VOTING NOVEMBER 8TH.

WE ARE THE CITIZENS WHO WILL DETERMINE WHO SITS ON THIS COMMISSION.

YOUR VOTE MATTERS.

YOUR VOTE DETERMINES HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AS THE CITY FOR YOUR LIFE.

VOTE NOVEMBER 8TH.

CHANGE IS NEEDED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DARCY SCHILLER.

GOOD EVENING. UNFORTUNATELY, DARCI SCHILLER, GRANVILLE TAMARAC.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS UNABLE TO MAKE THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING DUE TO A CONFLICT.

HOWEVER, I FOUND MYSELF ACTUALLY BEHAVING LIKE TWO OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

I WAS ACTUALLY SPEECHLESS AT THE FACT THAT WE HAD TWO COMMISSIONERS EXCUSE ME, A COMMISSIONER AND VICE MAYOR WHO REFUSED TO PARTICIPATE. AND I WONDER, AS YOU'RE BEING PAID TO TO BE IN YOUR POST, WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC? HOW ARE YOU HELPING THE CITY AT TAMARACK? AND THEN I LOOKED TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND ASKED HIM, HAVE YOU GOTTEN A BOOK ON ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER FOR BEING PARLIAMENTARIAN? I ALSO HAVE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY IF AND WHEN IS HE EVER GOING TO DO HIS JOB.

I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS CITY BEING LAUGHED AT.

I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPER PEOPLE GET VOTED IN.

AND IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S NOT YOU, THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT YOURSELF LIKE MS. MENDELSON SAID.

ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT TAMARAC HOPEFULLY ONE DAY WILL NOT BE THE LAUGHING STOCK THAT IT IS TODAY.

AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY WE'LL HAVE AN ATTORNEY, A CITY ATTORNEY WHO HAS THE GUTS TO STAND UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU. RUDY DELGADO.

GIVE HIM ONE SECOND.

[INAUDIBLE] ONE SECOND PLEASE.

TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE.

GO AHEAD. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I AM RUDY DELGADO.

SECTION 11, ALSO KNOWN AS FAIR HEAVEN 11.

AT MY HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, WE HAVE A GROUP OF PERSONS WHO HAVE CONTROL OF THE POWER YEAR AFTER YEAR.

I UNDERSTAND THAT AN ADMINISTRATION IS ALWAYS NEEDED.

HOWEVER, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TO BE ELECTED.

LAST TIME WE HAD ELECTION WAS IN 2020.

IN 2021, THERE WERE NO QUORUM FOR ELECTIONS.

SO THE INCUMBENTS REELECTED THEMSELVES.

ON APRIL 4TH OF THIS YEAR, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ELECTIONS AS STATED BY OUR BYLAWS, BUT PRIOR TO THAT WE RECEIVED EMAILS STATING THAT ELECTIONS ARE NOT NECESSARY AND ALL CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS EXPRESSED THE INTENTION TO CONTINUE ON THE BOARD. ON THAT DAY, APRIL THE FOURTH, MADAM MAYOR GOMEZ CAME IN AND EVEN THE POLICE, THEY TALK ABOUT MANY ISSUES.

BUT THE SUBJECT OF ELECTION ELECTIONS WAS NOT ADDRESSED.

MAJOR GOMEZ SPOKE AND WHEN SHE OPENED UP THE FLOOR AND I SPOKE ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CURRENT PANEL SITTING IN FRONT OF US HOMEOWNERS HAD NOT BEEN ELECTED AT THAT TIME.

THE SELF-PROCLAIMED PRESIDENT, ART ROSE, INTERRUPTED ME WITH LOUD BANGING OF THE GAVEL.

THIS IS NOT THE HAMMER OF JUSTICE.

WHO WOULD DARE TO SAY THAT ELECTIONS ARE NOT NECESSARY? THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CRIME TO ME.

ON THAT DAY, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED, BUT WE HAD NO ELECTIONS.

ANYBODY WHO CLAIMS TO BE ON THAT BOARD IS A COMMANDEER.

THEY ARE EMPOWERED BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NO QUORUM, HOWEVER, DOES NOT NOT MEAN DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE BOARD IS UP FOR GRABS FOR THE ARROGANT AND THE BULLY.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

THEY ARE A MAFIA.

THEY SELECT WHOEVER THEY WANT AND RETAIN OFFICE POSITIONS AMONG THEMSELVES IN AN ENDLESS LOOPHOLE.

I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE CITY OF TAMARAC THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC DOES NOT GET INVOLVED IN ELECTION ISSUES FOR THE HOME ASSOCIATIONS.

I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY TAMARAC OFFICIALS TO CONSULT WITH OUR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION LAWYER, OUR PROPERTY MANAGER, SENIORS, BUSINESS,

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CRIME, AND EVEN THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL AND CONSUMER SERVICES.

HOWEVER, IT LOOKS TO ME THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC APPROVES AND SUPPORT ANY GROUP OF COMMANDEERS AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A CHARMING REPRESENTATIVE LIKE ART ROSE.

AND TO CLOSE, I ASKED MY COMMISSIONER, MR. MIKE GELIN, PLEASE, SIR, IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE, HELP US.

FIND THE PROPER PROCEDURE FOR HOW TO REESTABLISH ELECTIONS AND NEVER LET THIS RIGHT TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM US.

THANK YOU.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. APPRECIATE THE PASSION AND THE SUPPORT.

AND JUST WE TYPICALLY DO THIS.

WE DO THIS. SO I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL, RUDY, IF.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. DELGADO. MR. STUART WEBSTER.

MADAM MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE DAIS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND USE THIS MEDIUM TO SHARE MY PERSPECTIVES ABOUT THE CITY THAT I'VE COME TO LOVE, AS WELL AS COMMENT ABOUT ITS GOVERNANCE.

YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY LATELY THAT SOME OF THE AND SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE I WOULD QUALIFY SOME OF THE WORDS OR EXPRESSIONS THAT I'VE USED REGULARLY IN THE PAST. SO HERE WE GO.

THESE ARE ALL WIKIPEDIA'S OR WEBSTER'S DEFINITION OF WORDS OR PHRASES.

THE FIRST IS CHINESE WATER TORTURE.

CHINESE WATER TORTURE IS A FORM OF TORTURE IN WHICH A PERSON IS RESTRAINED AND SUBJECTED TO REPETITIVE DRIPS OF WATER.

THIS MENTALLY PAINFUL PROCESS IS WHEN COLD WATER IS SLOWLY DRIPPED ONTO THE FOREHEAD OR FACE FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME.

THIS PROCESS CAUSES FEAR AND MENTAL DETERIORATION IN THE SUBJECT AND OR EVEN CAUSED THE BRAIN TO BE ENLARGED.

THE PATTERN OF DROPS IS OFTEN IRREGULAR AND THE COLD SENSATION JARRING, WHICH CAUSES ANXIETY AS THE PERSONS TRY TO ANTICIPATE THE NEXT DRIP. NEXT WORD IS PARASITE.

THE DEFINITION OF A PARASITE IS SOMEONE OR SOMETHING WHO EXPLOITS WHILE GIVING LITTLE OR NOTHING IN RETURN.

THIRD ONE IS ADVANTAGE.

THE DEFINITION OF ADVANTAGE IS A FACTOR OR CIRCUMSTANCE THAT CAN BE ABUSED BY ITS POSSESSOR.

IT MAY INCLUDE FINANCE, POSITION AND OR PRESENCE OR LACK OF MELANIN.

KINDLY NOTE THAT THE ABOVE AND THE REST OF MY COMMENTS ARE NOT ONLY RESTRICTED TO PERSONS ON THE DAIS.

LATELY, THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK WHO MAY HAVE HAD SOME POLITICAL AND OR FINANCIAL INTEREST IN TAMARAC IN THE PAST AND WHO HAVE NOT LOST INTEREST IN BEING INVOLVED IN THE CITY.

USUALLY FOCUS ON ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE.

WELL, SURPRISE THERE BACK AGAIN.

AND I MUST JUST SAY THAT HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PARTICULAR CITY DEEPLY, I KNOW TO MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THERE.

SO I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING WHEN IT COMES TO HISTORY.

FOR THOSE WHO DEEPLY HAVE AN INTEREST IN BETTERING AND IMPROVING THE OVERALL TAMARAC COMMUNITY, THERE'S STILL ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE CANDIDATE REGISTRATION FOR VACANT COMMITTEE SEATS CLOSE.

I ASKED THOSE EXPERIENCED AND QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE BY GIVING US OPTIONS OTHER THAN THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD. THIS CITY AND ITS GENTLE CITIZENS DESERVE BETTER THAN GETTING OR READING ABOUT GRIEF EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS.

WE DESERVE LESS CHINESE WATER TORTURE, LESS PARASITES WHO CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR GENTILITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

RON WASSERMAN.

[00:25:06]

GOOD EVENING. I'M RON WASSERMAN.

I LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

EVERY TIME I SPEAK BEFORE YOU AND MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT I SPEAK HERE A LOT.

I KNOW EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

I'VE MET WITH YOU MORE THAN ONCE.

I THINK OF WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY THE NEXT TIME.

AND WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY NOW, I NEED SOME HELP ON.

I NEED EVERYONE'S HELP.

THERE'S A DANGER IN OUR COMMUNITY.

MANY OF YOU HEARD ME SPEAK ABOUT IT.

IT IS CANCER.

I'M ASKING YOU LADIES, PLEASE TEST YOURSELVES.

MEN AND WOMEN AT THE AGE OF 40.

I'M ASKING YOU.

PLEASE TEST YOURSELF.

DON'T LEAVE IT TO CHANCE.

THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME, THEY HAD A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO SAY AND I'M CONTINUALLY SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE ACTIONS ACROSS THE BOARD.

LEFT TO RIGHT.

AND I JUST I'M ONE OF THE CITIZENS, LIKE A LOT OF YOU WHO MAY BE BEHIND ME, WHO MAY BE LISTENING TO ME, WHO WANT TO STAY INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHO WANT THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I GREW UP IN A COMMUNITY AND I CONTINUE TO WANT TO BE IN ONE.

I KNOW MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS.

WHY? BECAUSE I LIVE BY THE MAILBOX.

SO I'M ASKING A FEW THINGS.

I'M ASKING THE ONES WHO COME OUT AND GIVE YOUR BUSINESS CARDS TO US AND SAY, DON'T WORRY, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. AND THEN WHEN THE TIME COMES.

OH, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

SO, TAMARAC, I'M ASKING YOU TO BE A COMMUNITY OF WHAT YOU CAN DO.

AND I CAN GIVE SOME GREAT EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT WERE SAID TO ME PERSONALLY THAT NEVER CAME TRUE.

EVERYTHING FROM TRESPASSING TO SPEEDING TO LITTER TO PROBLEMS WITH NEIGHBORS, ETC.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE DISENCHANTED THAT DON'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK, THAT DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, THAT DON'T WANT THEIR NAME TO BE OUT IN PUBLIC. SOME ASKING TAMARAC.

BSO. AND BEFORE I LEAVE.

THANK YOU, TAMARAC FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE NEED YOU GUYS.

TOMMY, I'VE MET YOU BEFORE.

LET'S GET IT TOGETHER AND TRY TO WORK TOGETHER, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. ROSE GROVE.

ROSE GROVE 50907 NORTHWEST 69TH AVENUE, TAMARAC.

I'D LIKE TO GET A DEFINITION OF WHAT YOU THINK AN EASEMENT IS.

WHEN I WAS GETTING SIGNED FOR OUR COMMUNITY, I HAD TO GET A PERMIT FOR ALL THE SIGNS.

AND WE WERE TOLD THEY HAD TO BE PUT IN THE EASEMENT, WHICH WE DID ABOUT 2008.

NOW WE HAVE A HOMEOWNER THAT'S ON 70TH AVENUE.

SHE TOOK HER SIGNS DOWN AND PUT THEM BY THE CANAL AND SHE PUT PEBBLES ALL THE WAY TO THE WALKWAY OR THE BIKE PATH.

COMPLIANCE. THEY CAME OVER AND LOOKED AND THEY SAID THE CITY HAS NO PROBLEMS WITH THIS.

BUT SHE PUT THE PEBBLES ON THE ON THE EAST WAY AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

AND I WAS TOLD YOU NEVER SUPPOSED TO PUT ANYTHING THERE, BUT WE DID GET TO PREPARE FOR THE SIGN AND I HAVE PICTURES OF IT.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, DO WE ARE WE STILL CARE ABOUT THE EASEMENT? I HAVE ANOTHER HOMEOWNER THAT'S ON 66 TERRACE AND 61ST STREET.

SHE PUT RUBBER TIRES ON THE EASEMENT AND PUT PLANTS IN IT.

I CO I COCO COMPLIANCE.

AND I ALSO SAID THAT SHE HAS A CHICKEN COOP, WHICH WE'RE ADDRESSING BY OUR COMMUNITY.

HE WENT AND NEVER CAME BACK TO ME.

DIDN'T SAY WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF WE CAN FOLLOW THROUGH WITH.

I KNOW THE HOUSE ON 70TH.

WE'RE TAKING HER TO COURT BECAUSE SHE HAS OTHER VIOLATIONS FOR US.

BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING, DO YOU STILL GO BY THE EASEMENT? THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.

MS.. GROVE, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PLACKO WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND SHE'LL GET WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE CITY MANAGER AS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PATTY LYNN. MAINLAND STATE TAMARAC FIRST, DEBORAH, I'M SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR MOM.

AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING, BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE BROWARD VETERANS COALITION MEETS A THIRD MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH HERE AT THE TAMARAC COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND THAT WOULD BE THIS COMING MONDAY, THE 18TH, AT 2:00.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY VETERANS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE OR LISTENING AT HOME WHO HAVEN'T JOINED, IT'S FREE.

IT'S GOOD FOR YOU. THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCES.

THEY DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

AND RIGHT AFTER THAT MEETING, THEY HAVE THE DISABLED VETS POST 73 MEETS ALSO.

SO IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR ON STREET PARKING AGAIN AT NIGHT.

PLEASE. I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID THAT THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT GETTING RID OF THAT LAW.

YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE VIOLATE THE LAW, YOU USUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

YOU DON'T CHANGE THE LAW TO MEET THE LAWBREAKERS.

WE DON'T HAVE WIDE ENOUGH STREETS IN TAMARAC IN THE OLD AREAS FOR THEM TO HAVE ON STREET PARKING.

IT'S DIFFICULT ENOUGH AT IN THE DAYTIME BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY PARKING ON THIS SIDE OR THAT SIDE LIKE THEY DO IN NEW YORK.

PLEASE EITHER ENFORCE THE THING MAKE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COME IN, ENFORCE IT, INCREASE IT INSTEAD OF FROM 2 A.M.

TO 6 A.M., MAKE IT 11 P.M.

TO SIX. IT'S DARK.

WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE OLDER PEOPLE.

I'M OLD. I'VE WORKED HARD TO GET THIS OLD.

I DON'T WANT TO BE RUN DOWN BY SOMEONE WHO CAN'T SEE WHAT THEY'RE DRIVING AND THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID A CAR.

THEY DON'T SEE A PERSON.

SO PLEASE, PLEASE, LET'S GET BSO TO START ENFORCING THAT.

PEOPLE NEED TO WIDEN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.

THAT'S THE WAY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FIX THINGS.

YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THE EXPUNGEMENT THING THAT YOU'RE DOING.

MR. DYLAN, I HOPE THAT THAT HAS BEEN CANCELED.

THE CITY SHOULD IN NO WAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SEXUAL PREDATOR WHO IS ONE OF THE SPONSORS OR PART OF THAT THING.

HE WAS A BSO DEPUTY, JONATHAN [INAUDIBLE].

HE WORKED IN OAKLAND PARK.

HE PREYED ON IMMIGRANTS, UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS.

HE WENT TO JAIL.

HE HAS NO BUSINESS BEING ASSOCIATED WITH ANYTHING WITH THIS CITY.

PLEASE WITHDRAW THE CITY FROM THAT.

WITHDRAW YOUR SUPPORT FROM IT AND CANCEL IT IF HE HAS TO STAY INVOLVED.

WE DON'T WANT HIM ANYPLACE NEAR OUR CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALEXANDRA ALVAREZ.

JUST CHECKING IF EVERYONE'S AWAKE.

GOOD EVENING.

I'LL START OVER. MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE PRESENT AND WATCHING.

MY NAME IS ALEXANDRA ALVAREZ, AND I'VE LIVED IN TAMARAC FOR 14 YEARS AS A HOMEOWNER.

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I DO HAVE AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC AS WELL.

ANYHOW, AS A MOTHER AND EDUCATOR, I'M AN AUTISM COACH FOR BROWARD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I'M FULLY VESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEREFORE, I HAVE AN ASK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND ALL OTHER EDUCATORS AND YOUTH IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC. CONSIDERING THAT MY DAY IS CONSUMED BY BEING IN THE SCHOOL BUILDING, SUPERVISING THE DAILY AFFAIRS OF STUDENTS WITH AUTISM.

IT IS QUITE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET TO ATTEND OR WATCH A COMMISSION MEETING IN THE DAYTIME.

HENCE MY ASK IS THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER CHANGING THE TIME OF THE SECOND COMMISSION MEETINGS TO THE EVENINGS AS A MEANS TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY FOR MAXIMUM CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.

THIS WILL ENCOURAGE MORE TAMARAC RESIDENTS AND YOUTH TO PARTICIPATE AND GET MORE INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

PROVIDING EQUAL ACCESS TO ALL DEMOGRAPHICS, PARTICULARLY OUR GROWING YOUTH POPULATION.

ONCE AGAIN, I IMPLORE YOU TO CHANGE THE SECOND COMMISSION MEETING TO THE EVENINGS TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

THANK YOU. YOU AS WELL. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SIGN UP, WHO CAME IN AFTER THE SIGNUP SHEET? MS. JAMES.

SALLY JAMES.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SALLY JAMES.

I LIVE AT 8231 NORTHWEST 68TH AVENUE.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMARAC FOR 25 YEARS, SO I GUESS I GOT HER BEAT.

I WANTED TO TAG ON TO WHAT THE WOMAN JUST SAID.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO CONSIDER MOVING THE SECOND COMMISSION MEETING BACK TO THE EVENINGS.

I'M NOT SURE WHY IT'S DURING THE DAY, BUT ONE THING TAMARAC IS PROMOTING IS THAT THE POPULATION IS GETTING MUCH YOUNGER.

THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN TAMARAC WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED WAS A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, TAMARAC IS GETTING YOUNGER AND YOUNGER AND YOUNGER, AND THIS MEANS FEWER AND FEWER PEOPLE CAN ATTEND THESE MEETINGS IF THEY'RE DURING THE DAY, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE YOUNGER, THERE'S A LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU WORK.

SO WHAT SHE SAID HAS A VERY VALID POINT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TAG ON TO THAT.

AND SECONDLY, I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE CITY ON HAVING A GREAT EVENT.

LAST SATURDAY IT WAS THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS COLLECTION.

I GOT RID OF AN OLD COMPUTER PAINT.

IT'S A REALLY, REALLY NICE SERVICE TO HAVE IN THE CITY AND THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD THING.

AND THE CITY ALSO HAD A GREAT EVENT LAST FRIDAY AT THE TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX WITH THE BILLY JOEL TRIBUTE BAND, WITH THE SURREAL BACKDROP OF THE BRUSH FIRES.

BUT IT WAS A LOT OF FUN AND THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND I HOPE WE SEE MORE OF THAT.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHED TO SPEAK THAT DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SIGN UP? SEEING NONE, PUBLIC COMMENTS, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS NOW CLOSED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

NOW WE WILL MOVE TO CONSENT AGENDA.

CITY MANAGER, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA? NO, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WILL NOW ASK FOR A SECOND TO MY MOTION TO MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND. CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

SURE, THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU. MOTION PASSED 5 TO 0.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[6.a TO2497 - An Ordinance for the Commission's consideration, modification and/oradoption entitled: An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida, calling anelection amending the City Charter to be held Tuesday, November 8, 2022; providingfor submission to the electors for approval or disapproval proposed amendments tothe City Charter, such Charter amendment concerning the manner in which the Cityselects an auditor to perform the statutorily mandated independent annual audit;providing for requisite ballot language; providing for procedure for balloting;providing for notice; providing for related matters; providing for conflicts; providingfor severability; providing for inclusion in the Charter; and an effective date.]

WE WILL NOW GO TO ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING 6AT02497, ORDINANCE FOR THE CONSERVATION COMMISSION CONSIDERATION.

CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE FULL TITLE FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC FLORIDA CALLING AN ELECTION AMENDING TO AMEND THE CITY CHARTER BE HELD TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 2022.

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PROVIDING FOR SUBMISSIONS TO THE ELECTORS FOR APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL.

PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CHARTER.

SUCH CHARTER AMENDMENT CONCERNING THE MANNER IN WHICH THE CITY SELECTS AN AUDITOR TO PERFORM THE STATUTORILY MANDATED INDEPENDENT ANNUAL AUDIT PROVIDING FOR REQUISITE BALLOT LANGUAGE, PROVIDING FOR PROCEDURES FOR BALLOTING, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE, PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CHARTER AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS THIS IS AN ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING, THERE IS NO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

AND SO I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO MOVED.

SECOND. THANK YOU.

CITY ATTORNEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO FURTHER INTRODUCE ITEM.

MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AT YOUR DIRECTION AT PURSUANT TO THE LAST WORKSHOP WE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION AND POTENTIAL APPROVAL PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER THAT PROVIDES FOR AMENDING SECTION 7-09 OF THE CHARTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE AND THAT PROVISION, THAT PORTION OF THE CHARTER IS CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW, AND THAT CHARTER SECTION DEALS WITH THE MANNER IN WHICH THE CITY CONDUCTS NOT ONLY THE INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT ALSO HOW THE CITY GOES ABOUT SELECTING ITS OUTSIDE AUDITOR.

THE CLEARLY, SINCE THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A CHARTER AMENDMENT TO OR AN AMENDMENT TO THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION OF THE CHARTER STATE LAW HAS CHANGED TO PROVIDE FOR A SPECIFIC MANNER IN WHICH THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO SELECTED OUTSIDE AUDITOR, WHICH IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LANGUAGE CURRENTLY IN THE CHARTER.

SO WE PROVIDED THAT PROPOSED AMENDMENT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION PURSUANT TO YOUR DIRECTION.

THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION DURING THE WORKSHOP ABOUT THE COMMISSION CONSIDERING SOME OTHER PROVISIONS THAT IT MAY WANT TO AMEND OR INSTRUCT STAFF TO FURTHER EXPAND THE ORDINANCE.

AS I SAID DURING THE WORKSHOP, ANY PROVISION THE CHARTER AS IT CURRENTLY IS WRITTEN IS SUBJECT TO YOUR REVIEW AND DIRECTION TO US TO MODIFY, DELETE, OR OTHERWISE LEAVE, AS IS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU ON FIRST READING.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY.

ONE ADDITIONAL THING.

AT THE DURING THE COURSE OF THE WORKSHOP, COMMISSIONER BOLTON ASKED FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REVIEW THE CHARTER AND TO RECOMMEND OR BRING TO YOU ALL IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER PROVISIONS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BELIEVED IT WAS ESSENTIAL FOR OR REQUIRED FOR A CHANGE TO BE MADE TO THE CHARTER, AND AFTER REVIEWING THE CHARTERS IN ENTIRETY.

THE ONLY SECTION AND IT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE WORKSHOP THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY IS SECTION 7.14, EXPENDITURE FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

AND AGAIN, THE COMMENT, THE REASON WHY I'VE MADE THAT CONCLUSION IN INFORMING YOU HERE TONIGHT OF THAT IS AGAIN AN INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE LANGUAGE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN YOUR CHARTER AND APPLICABLE STATE LAW.

AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND VERY STRONGLY THAT BE INCLUDED AND ANY REFERENDUM THAT OR AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER THAT'S PUT FORWARD IN A REFERENDUM TO MAKE SURE THAT SECTION OF THE CHARTER IS CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW.

AND IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION THAT SECTION 7.14, WHICH CURRENTLY READS CONTRACTS FOR THE SERVICE OF PROFESSIONALS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS AND ATTORNEYS ARE TO BE ENTERED INTO IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA LAW.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT LANGUAGE BE MODIFIED.

JUST SIMPLY SAY CONTRACTS FOR THE SERVICE OF PROFESSIONALS ARE TO BE ENTERED INTO IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.

AND THE REASON WHY SUBSTITUTING STATE FOR FLORIDA IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT'S SAID THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CHARTER.

AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD MAKE THAT SECTION OF THE CHARTER CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW THAT WE WOULD FOLLOW STATE LAW WITH REGARD TO THE ENGAGEMENT OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, AND THERE'S A SPECIFIC STATUTE THAT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE CCNA THAT IS THE ONE THAT'S MOST APPLICABLE TO THAT SECTION OF THE CHARTER.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

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THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR HAS QUESTIONS.

WHICH ITEM ON YOUR REFERRING TO? SECTION 7.14 OF THE CHARTER.

THE CCNA, AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, APPLIES TO ARCHITECT, ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS, AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.

THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER IS CONTRACTS FOR THE SERVICE OF PROFESSIONALS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ARCHITECT, ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS AND ATTORNEYS ARE TO BE ENTERED INTO IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA, WITH FLORIDA LAW.

I THINK THAT IT'S JUST MUCH CLEANER AND MUCH SIMPLER TO SIMPLY SAY THAT THE ENGAGEMENT OR THE CONTRACTS FOR THE SERVICE, FOR THE SERVICE OF PROFESSIONALS ARE TO BE ENTERED INTO IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.

AND THAT COVERS EVERYTHING.

AND TO ADD THAT WAY, WHEN THE STATUTE POTENTIALLY CHANGES, WE DON'T HAVE TO AMEND IT.

WE'RE JUST WE'RE COVERED AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE COVERED BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES TO STATE LAW.

COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR [INAUDIBLE]? I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY ELSE HAVING ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY? I DO.

SO, ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, I SAW YOUR LIGHT.

SEE WHAT YOU SAY BEFORE.

I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT MYSELF.

ALL RIGHT. SO BASICALLY, I'M FINE WITH DEFINITELY WOULD SUPPORT OF THE 7.09.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE 7.14 BEING AMENDED AS PHRASED.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER IMPORTANT ITEMS THAT WE SHOULD BE MODIFYING, AS WE DISCUSSED AND WAS WOULD BE 5.02B, ON THE CITY MANAGER.

CITY MANAGER SHOULD BE SUSPENDED OR REMOVE THE CITY MANAGER BY A SUPERMAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS IN OFFICE AT THE TIME.

ALSO UNDER SECTION 5.04A, THE APPOINTMENT OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, I WOULD REMOVE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME, ADDING IN SECTION 10.01 DEALING WITH THE CITY CLERK, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY TO APPOINT AND BEING APPROVED BY US.

WE DON'T THE COMMISSION DOES NOT NEED TO APPROVE.

IT IS MY OPINION THAT AS WE HAVE BEEN KEPT AWAY FROM HIRING AND FIRING AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THE ONLY POSITIONS THAT WE CAN HIRE AND FIRE ARE THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY. WE SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS OF THE CITY'S CITY MANAGER.

IN HER DESELECTION OR HIS SELECTION, DEPENDING ON THE CASE MAY BE OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY CLERK IS A DEPARTMENT HEAD, SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHY IT'S SEPARATED OUT. FURTHER, I WOULD GO THROUGH SECTION 6.02 THE DISTRICTS AND REQUIRE A MINIMUM LENGTH OF RESIDENCY BEFORE BECOMING A CANDIDATE FOR OFFICE.

ALSO SECTIONS 1101 WHEN IT DEALS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

THE CITY ATTORNEY SHOULD BE ALSO SUSPENDED OR REMOVED BY A SUPERMAJORITY OF THE VOTE OF THOSE ON THE COMMISSION AND OFFICE AT THAT TIME.

AND THEN I WOULD SUPPORT A DEFINITION SECTION THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS PUTTING IN THERE THE EDITS OF MAKING IT GENDER NEUTRAL.

SO CITY MANAGER ANY OTHER TITLES WOULD BE GENDER NEUTRAL, HE OR SHE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE REFERENCE IN A WORRY.

WE COULD ALSO PROVIDE FOR CONSISTENCY OF THE COST OR DUPLICATION OF CERTAIN RECORDS, AS WE HAVE IN VARIOUS PLACES IN OUR CHARTER, THAT THERE IS A COST FOR THE SAME.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS DURING OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT DEFINITION, SINGLE PLURAL.

AND JUST BASICALLY IN THAT DEFINITION SECTION, BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE CLEANUP AREA FOR OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEEDED VERSUS GOING THROUGH A WHOLE STRIKEOUT AND CHARTER CHANGE.

AND THEN ALSO BEING PUTTING IN THERE A STOPGAP OF.

AND THIS CHARTER IS SUBJECT TO.

STATE LAW AND ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE AMENDED IS FROM TIME TO TIME.

AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN FURTHER DISCUSS THAT AS A ITEM THAT WE USE IN THE LAW.

IT'S USED IN CONDO DOCS, ASSOCIATION DOCS AS WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE.

CITY ATTORNEY. THAT I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION, THAT IS CORRECT.

IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T RUN INTO THE PROBLEM THAT WE ARE, WE HAVE WITH SECTION 7.09

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AND AS I'VE EXPLAINED, MY VIEW OF 7.14 AS WELL, WHICH IS THAT SINCE THE TIME THAT THOSE CHARTER PROVISIONS WERE LAST AMENDED, THE STATE STATUTE HAS BEEN MODIFIED OR CHANGED.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE CHARTER AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU. AND JUST AS A REMINDER OF WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE SUPERMAJORITY FOR OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

IT AVOIDS POLITICS ON THE DAIS WHERE WE HAVE CONCERNS THAT OUR CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT BE WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN COUNT TO THREE AND IF SOMEBODY MIGHT BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE IF THEY DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY MAY OR MAY NOT LIKE.

AND IT MAKES IT MORE EMPOWERING TO OUR PEOPLE THAT WE WILL BE HIRING, THAT THEY KNOW, THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HERE TO DO THE JOB OF THE CITY, NOT THE JOB FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL PERSON ON THE COMMISSION.

AND THE REALITY IS, IF THERE'S EVER A TIME WHEN THERE'S SOMEONE WHO WILL NOT BE IN THEIR POSITION ANY FURTHER.

THE REALITY IS, IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE SUPER MAJORITY ANYWAY.

SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO PULL.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS. JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT YOU SAID MAYOR.

ARE WE GOING LINE BY LINE OF YOUR REQUEST, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE BUNDLED UP AND GET CONSENSUS? GOOD POINT. I GUESS IT WAS GOING TO BE BROUGHT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

IF IT'S JUST MYSELF ON THE ISLAND, THEN THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANYTHING FURTHER.

BUT IF THERE'S OTHERS WHO HAVE SIMILAR DESIRE TO CHANGE THOSE ITEMS, THEN WE CAN DO LINE BY LINE FOR CONSENSUS.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE GO LINE BY LINE.

OKAY. SO WE WILL GO LINE BY LINE.

I'LL START WITH 709 WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY.

HAD CONSENSUS, BUT I WILL GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE CONSENSUS.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. VICE MAYOR.

THE CHARTER IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA BOOK.

SO CAN IT PLEASE PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN SO THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE? THAT'S COMING UP. SOME OF US JUST HAD [INAUDIBLE] SO.

I DON'T HAVE IT ON ME SO YOU CAN GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

WELL I HAVE NOTES ALL OVER MINE, SO I DON'T KNOW.

IT WOULD BE RIGHT TO GIVE IT TO YOU.

IT'S COMING UP. GIVE IT A SECOND.

AND WE'RE AT 7.09 FOR 0.09 FOR RIGHT NOW PLEASE.

7.09, PLEASE.

THERE YOU GO. OOPS.

THANK YOU.

SO WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO CHANGE HERE? WHAT'S THE ASK? THE SECTION THAT OR THE [INAUDIBLE] IS THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF SECTION 7.09, WHERE CURRENTLY THE CHARTER LANGUAGE SAYS THE CITY COMMISSION MAY, WITHOUT REQUIRING COMPETITIVE BIDS, DESIGNATE SUCH ACCOUNTS OR FIRMS ANNUALLY OR FOR A PERIOD NOT EXCEEDING THREE YEARS.

THERE IS A SPECIFIC STATE STATUTE THAT IS REFERENCED IN THE IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

MAYOR MAY I INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND? CAN WE GET JIM TO PULL UP THE AGENDA FROM THE WEBSITE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD DO A SPLIT SCREEN.

GO AHEAD. SO INSTEAD OF THE CURRENT LANGUAGE THAT IS UP ON THE ON YOUR SCREEN.

THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF SECTION 7.209 WOULD READ AS PROPOSED.

THE CITY SHALL ELECT SELECT AN AUDITOR IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 218 391 FLORIDA STATUTES.

IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME FOR ONE SECOND, I'M.

YES, I'M SORRY. I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO 7:55, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT RECESS.

THE CITY CLERK IS GETTING COPIES FOR EVERYBODY SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE IT AND RECONVENE HERE IN 5 MINUTES.

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DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? THAT'S GOOD, MADAM MAYOR.

THANK YOU. WE'RE PRINTING THE COPIES RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. I DON'T NEED ONE.

I'VE GOT ONE. SO 8:00 WE'LL BE BACK.

THIS MEETING IS IN RECESS FOR 5 MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 8:01.

SORRY FOR THE EXTRA MINUTE AND WE ARE READY TO START AGAIN.

SO WE WERE UP TO VICE MAYOR DETERMINING WHETHER HE WAS IN SUPPORT STILL OF 709 THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

MADAM MAYOR. YES.

JUST SO TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH INTERNALLY THE MANAGER, MYSELF AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, AND WE'VE CLEANED.

WE'VE FURTHER MODIFIED THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN TO READ THIS.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME, BUT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, SPECIFICALLY AT THE REQUEST OF THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, WHO'S THE ONE OR HER DEPARTMENT IS THE DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY THAT'S PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLYING WITH THE SECTION OF THE CHARTER.

AND SO THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IS THE COMMISSION MAY, WITHOUT REQUIRING COMPETITIVE BIDS, DESIGNATE SUCH ACCOUNT AND OR FIRM AND FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEEDING NOT EXCEEDING THREE YEARS.

THE COMMISSION MAY ALSO PROVIDE FOR A SURPRISE AUDIT BY ENACTMENT OF AN EMERGENCY ORDER ORDINANCE, AS PROVIDED BY LAW.

IF THE STATE MAKES AN AUDIT, THE COMMISSION MAY ACCEPT IT.

IF IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SECTION, ALL AUDIT SHALL BE MADE PUBLIC WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER RECEIPT OF THE AUDIT COMMISSION.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, IF YOU ADOPT THE ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN AS IT RELATES TO SECTION 7.09, THAT PARAGRAPH WILL NOW READ OR WILL READ IF APPROVED, THE CITY SHALL SELECT AN AUDITOR IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 218 391 FLOOR STATUTES, AS THE SAME MAY BE AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME TO PREPARE THE INDEPENDENT ANNUAL AUDIT.

THEN WE WENT ON TO SPECIFY THAT WE DELETED THE WORD A SURPRISE.

YOU ALL CAN ORDER AN AUDIT AT ANY POINT IN TIME, WHETHER IT'S A SURPRISE OR NOT.

AND WE DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS SUPERFLUOUS LANGUAGE.

AND THAT'S WHAT BEFORE YOU.

THANK YOU. SO, VICE MAYOR, ARE YOU IN CONSENSUS FOR THE CHANGE OF 7.09? NO. I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO GIVE US THIS INFORMATION AT THIS VERY LAST MINUTE, AT LEAST.

PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT.

AT LEAST. STAFF SHOULD HAVE THE CURRENT PARAGRAPH WE HAVE UP NOW AND THEN HAVE THE NEW LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF US.

WE CAN SEE IT SIDE BY SIDE AND THEN WE CAN FULLY READ IT INSTEAD OF YOU READING IT TO US.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE TO SEE SIDE BY SIDE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.

VICE MAYOR I'M GOING TO TURN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HAVE HIM CONFIRM THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AT THE WORKSHOP.

THIS WAS THE ONE ITEM THAT YOURSELF AND EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION, OTHER THAN COMMISSIONER PLACKO, WHO HAD AN EXCUSE ABSENCE, HAD ALREADY AGREED UPON, AND WHICH IS IN OUR BACKUP IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION FOR WHICH WHY WE ARE.

YOU JUST SAID THEY JUST MADE ANOTHER CHANGE.

THE ONE WORD LANGUAGE PART THAT HE IS CHANGING IS NOT IN CONCEPT.

WE CAN DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO CHANGE 709 AS IT IS WRITTEN IN OUR ITEM AND BRING BACK A SECOND READING THE ITEM IN WHICH HE IS TALKING ABOUT FOR THE MINOR CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE THAT HE JUST MENTIONED.

THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT IS IF THIS COMMISSION MOVES FORWARD WITH ADOPTING THIS ORDINANCE IS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IS IN THE PACKAGE BEFORE YOU.

I CERTAINLY CAN PROVIDE A COPY OF THAT LANGUAGE TO STAFF TO SEE IF THEY CAN PUT IT SIDE BY SIDE.

BUT IT IS IN THE NO TERMS OF CONSENSUS PUBLISHED AGENDA.

IT'S IN OUR PUBLISHED AGENDA PAGE NINE.

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IT IS GO TO.

[INAUDIBLE] IT'S EXACTLY. MOVE TO THE NEXT TAB.

WHAT'S THAT OUT THERE? THAT'S THIS.

THIS IS ON THIS.

THAT'S OUR CURRENT.

THAT'S OUR CURRENT. THIS IS WHAT OUR READING.

THIS IS WHAT'S IN HERE.

WHAT'S THAT RIGHT THERE? THAT'S SO FLIP TO PAGE.

FLIP IT.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAYOR.

CITY MANAGER.

SO THE CHAIR. YES, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

WHEN WAS THIS AGENDA PUBLISHED? THE AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED FRIDAY.

WE HAD OUR BOOKS FRIDAY. IT WAS PUBLISHED ON FRIDAY.

YES. RIGHT.

INFORMATION THAT WE'RE REVIEWING IS IN THERE.

RIGHT. YES.

THE REPLACEMENT LANGUAGE IS EXHIBIT A THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE ITEM.

AND IT'S IN THE BOOK.

IT'S BEING PUT ON THE STREET.

THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE.

CAN THE AUDIENCE SEE THIS? DO YOU SEE THIS? YES.

VICE MAYOR, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE NOT IN SUPPORT OF IT? WHY ARE WE REMOVING THE NOT EXCEEDING THREE YEARS? SO IT'S GOING TO BE NO LIMIT AS TO HOW LONG THE ORDER IS IN PLACE BECAUSE ACTUALLY SECTION 218391 ALLOWS FOR CONTRACTS TO BE LONGER THAN THAN THREE YEARS.

IT ALLOWS THEM ACTUALLY TO BE UP TO I THINK IT'S FIVE YEARS.

FIVE YEARS. OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

AND SO, AGAIN, WE WANTED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE STATUTE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

VICE MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM YOU'RE STILL NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE CHANGE OF THIS ITEM.

WHAT WAS THE ADDITIONAL WORDING YOU SAID THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.

YES. ADDED, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE EXHIBIT.

YOU'LL SEE ON THE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE LEFT SECTION 7.09 WAS THE EXACTLY AS IT WAS INITIALLY RECOMMENDED BY THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD.

THE LANGUAGE ON RIGHT UNDER EXHIBIT A IS HOW THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND CUMULATIVELY STAFF FELT THAT IT WOULD BEST REPRESENT COMPLIANCE WITH 218 391 IN.

AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY IN DEFENSE BUT IT'S FURTHER EXPLANATION THAT LANGUAGE THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT WAS PROVIDED TO STAFF DURING THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.

I DON'T RECALL SPECIFICALLY IF IT WAS PUT BEFORE THE CHARTER BOARD, BUT THE LANGUAGE THAT IS ON THE RIGHT UNDER EXHIBIT A IS STILL ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME OBJECTIVE THAT THE CHARTER BOARD AND THAT STAFF WANTS, WHICH IS COMPLIANCE WITH 218 391.

OKAY. I'LL SUPPORT IT.

COMMISSION PLACKO. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

YES. THANK YOU.

THERE IS UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR CHANGING 7.09.

WE KNOW THIS WILL COME BACK TO US IN SECOND READING WITH A CLEAN COPY AND A MARKED AND ONLINE COPY.

UNDERLINE UNDERSCORED.

THE NEXT ON THE ITEM.

THERE'S SECTION 2.01 PREPARE BY THE ENGINEER CHANGES SALE TO PUBLIC AND CONCERT REMOVING SECTION 13.01 BOUNDARIES.

THESE WERE THESE ITEMS THAT WERE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAD TWO TWOS OR TWO AND POSSIBLY A HALF

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WITH. BEING BRING YOU BACK FOR A DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAD A FULL COMMISSION, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS BEING THIS IS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK QUICKLY.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON FOR SECTION 2.01.

THIS ONE WAS TO MAKE THIS IN 1301 CLEAN.

REMOVING THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION FROM 1301 AND PUTTING WITHIN 2.01.

THAT WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN NOW? AGAIN, THE IDEA BEING THAT FROM TIME TO TIME, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT IS IN ARTICLE 13 HAS BEEN CHANGED THROUGH ANNEXATIONS AND OTHER MODIFICATIONS, BUT IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE ACTUAL LEGAL DESCRIPTION BECAUSE IT'S OUTDATED YOU ONLY YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS ONLY SO MANY YEARS IN BETWEEN.

AND THEREFORE THE IDEA THAT THE CHARTER BOARD IS RECOMMENDING IS TO GET RID OF THE ACTUAL LEGAL DESCRIPTION, THE METES AND BOUNDS, AND REFER TO IT IN SECTION 2.01 AND REQUIRE THE CITY TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE A COPY OF THAT FULL LEGAL DESCRIPTION AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC UPON DEMAND IN THE MAP, AND THAT WE WOULD REPRODUCE IT AT WHATEVER THE COST OF DUPLICATION WOULD BE.

CITY ATTORNEY WE'D ALSO MAYBE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THAT LANGUAGE INTO THE DEFINITION SECTION WHERE YOU PUT A STAR TO THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION.

IN THIS WAY, PEOPLE COULD OBTAIN THE FULL ITEM IN A LEGAL DESCRIPTION VERSUS HAVING TO DO A FULL MODIFICATION CHANGE.

SO FOR SOME OF THIS, WE'LL ALSO SEE IF THERE'S CONSENSUS AND WE'LL COME BACK AROUND BECAUSE WE ALSO KNOW THAT IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH THAT WE MAY WANT TO HAVE.

CHANGE BECOMES A FINANCIAL ISSUE ON HOW MANY PAGES WILL BE ON THE ON THE BALLOT.

AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE HAVE BALLOT FATIGUE IF WE HAVE WAY TOO MUCH STUFF ON THERE.

SO RIGHT NOW, WE'LL JUST ASK FOR GENERAL CONSENSUS IF WE HAVE IT, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND THEN IF WE NEED BE, WE CAN TRIM IT DOWN.

JUST. COMMISSIONER BOLTON COMMENTS? YES. OK COMMENTS TO TRIMMING IT DOWN OR TO DEFINITIONS OR BOTH ARE EITHER.

THE ONE YOU SELECT.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

THANK YOU. SAME THING.

ANY WHICH WAY THAT'S MOST CONVENIENT OR SUITABLE FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS DONE.

OKAY. VICE MAYOR GELIN.

I'M SAYING NO, WE SHOULDN'T MAKE THE CHANGE BECAUSE THE POTENTIAL FOR BALLOT FATIGUE, THERE'S GOING TO BE TOO MANY ITEMS ON THE BALLOT AND THIS IS NOT ALL THAT NECESSARY.

OKAY. YES.

UNTIL WE GET MORE CLARIFICATION.

OKAY. SO WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT ONE.

SO SECTION 4.01 CITY COMMISSION POWERS COMPOSITION AND THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN THE CITY SHALL BE A MAJORITY.

THE MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION, CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN RUNNING IT THAT WAY, BUT WE'VE NEVER HAD A STATEMENT, I GUESS, IN THE CHARTER.

VICE MAYOR. YOUR OPINION? I'M IN FAVOR OF A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT LIKE THE CITY OF PLANTATION.

SO YOU HAVE THE CEO OF THE ORGANIZATION AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC, THE CITY OF PLANTATION HAS A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT, AND THEY HAVE A CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER WHO WORKS IN THE WHO WOULD WORK AS THE ACTING CITY MANAGER.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF.

SO I WILL TAKE IT THAT THAT'S A NO FOR THE CURRENT CHANGE THAT IS LISTED THERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES FOR THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT STRONG MAYOR GOVERNMENTS THE WORST IDEA IN MY OPINION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO. FORGIVE ME.

I NEED A CLARIFICATION.

CHANGE OR NO CHANGE. NO CHANGE.

OKAY. NO, THAT'S OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GO THROUGH THIS AS ONE TIME.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON. NO CHANGE.

OKAY. OK CONSENSUS IS FOR NO CHANGE WITH THREE.

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MYSELF IS WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE DEFINITIONS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

THE NEXT ITEM IS 502 B SUSPENSION AND REMOVAL OF THE CITY MANAGER.

MAKING THAT A SUPERMAJORITY.

COMMISSIONER. PLACKO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

SUPERMAJORITY FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

THE THE ISSUE WITH THAT MAYOR.

I HEAR YOUR IDEA ABOUT POLITICKING.

BUT IT CAN ALSO BE DETRIMENTAL TO ONE'S DISTRICT IF THE CITY MANAGER CHOOSES TO TO POLITIC.

LET'S SAY THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE FOUR VOTES TO REMOVE A CITY MANAGER THAN THE CITY MANAGER ONLY NEEDS TO KEEP TWO PEOPLE HAPPY INSTEAD OF THE CITY COMMISSION COUNTING TO THREE.

FOUR PEOPLE REMOVING THE CITY MANAGER.

NOW THE CITY MANAGER JUST NEEDS TO HAVE TWO FRIENDS IN ORDER TO STAY ON.

SO I THINK THAT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, ESPECIALLY MY DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN DISENFRANCHISED. IF WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER IN THE FUTURE THAT IS VERY POLITICAL AND DOES NOT WANT TO INCLUDE THE EASTERN PART OF THE CITY IN HIS OR HER PLANS, THEN THAT CITY MANAGER COULD POLITIC AND JUST BE FRIENDS AND BUDDIES WITH TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FROM TWO DISTRICTS THAT HE OR SHE LIKES AND NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE REST OF THE DISTRICT.

I ONLY BRING THAT POINT BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT ABOUT COMMISSIONERS POLITICKING, BUT WE'D ALSO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER POLITICKING AS WELL. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

SO YOUR OPINION FOR IT IS YOUR OR NO.

MY THAT BASED ON THE COMMENT MADAM MAYOR THAT WOULD BE.

MY JUST NEEDING CLARIFICATION FOR THE RECORD, I AM NOT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS AT ALL AND AS A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY WATCHING AND LISTENING THIS THAT WE VOTE ON, WHEN WE VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE, WE'LL THEN GO OUT TO THE VOTERS OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

YOU WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

WE'RE GIVING OUR OPINION HERE.

YOU HAVE YOUR OPINION AND YOU'LL USE IT AT THE VOTING BOOTH.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

I BELIEVE IT'S VERY DANGEROUS FOR A MAJORITY TO HIRE AND FIRE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND A CITY MANAGER, CONSIDERING THERE'S MORE POLITICKING ON THE COMMISSION VERSUS THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND IF THERE IS ANY POLITICKING, IT WILL BE NOTICED AND IT'S AS EASY AS FIRING THEM.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF A SUPERMAJORITY.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY IRRESPONSIBLE TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY TO REMOVE OR SUSPEND A CITY MANAGER OR A CITY ATTORNEY.

WE JUST HAD A CITY MANAGER ARRESTED FOR PARTICIPATING IN A $3.4 MILLION EXTORTION SCHEME ALLEGED VICE MAYOR.

AND YOU SUPPORT IT? HE WAS YOUR PARTNER IN CRIME.

VICE MAYOR OK CITY.

CITY ATTORNEY. REALLY? WE. SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR.

EACH OTHER BY NAME OR SPECIFIC REFERENCE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'RE AS I SAID BEFORE, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, WE ARE ALL BETTER SERVED IF WE STICK TO THE ISSUE FOR YOU AND JUST LET US KNOW AS STAFF WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT US TO MODIFY ANY OF THESE PROVISIONS OR NOT.

AND AND I THINK THAT WE'RE WE'LL GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IT'S EASY THAT WAY IF WE STICK TO THE POINTS AND.

LEAVE THE RHETORIC OUT.

THANK YOU. IT'S OUR JOB AS THE POLITICAL FIGURES FOR THE CITY TO BE THE ONES FIGHTING FOR WHAT WE KNOW IS NEEDED OR ADVOCATING FOR WHAT WE KNOW IS NEEDED.

CITY MANAGERS.

JUST BASICALLY BRING INFORMATION WITH CITY STAFF AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY RESEARCH WHAT WE NEED.

IT'S NOT THE CITY MANAGERS OR THE STAFF'S DECISIONS OF WHAT THINGS SHOULD GO FORWARD.

WE AS THE BODY ARE THE ONES THAT VOTE ON IT AND WE VOTE ON IT THROUGH THE BUDGET AND WE MAKE THE DETERMINATIONS THROUGH STRATEGIC PLANNING WHAT GOES WHERE.

SO I AM OBVIOUSLY, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT.

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SO THIS ONE WILL MOVE FORWARD.

MAYOR [INAUDIBLE] YES, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS THE THIRD TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS AND CHARTER BOARD HAS DISCUSSED THIS SEVERAL TIMES.

EVERYBODY HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY PRIOR TO SAY WHAT THEY FEEL, HOW THEY FEEL.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET CONSENSUS TO JUST SAY YES OR NO ON EACH ITEM THAT'S BEING PRESENTED.

I THINK WE'LL FIND THAT OUT AS WE GO THROUGH.

AND I SAID. THANK YOU.

SO WE WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS CONSENSUS OR NOT.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE APPOINTMENT OF DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CITY MANAGER REMOVING DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION OFFICE AT THE TIME. THIS IS SECTION 5.0 4A AND JUST MAKING IT THAT THE CITY MANAGER SHALL APPOINT AND SUPERVISE THE HEADS OF ALL DEPARTMENTS AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

AND I'M GOING TO THROW IN HERE A BOOTSTRAP OF 10.01, WHICH DEALS WITH THE CITY CLERK SO WE CAN MAYBE HAVE TWO AT ONE TIME.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO. VICE MAYOR.

NO. NO.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

REPEAT THE ONE WE'RE ON MADAM MAYOR.

I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

REPEAT.. THE NUMBER.

WE'RE DEALING WITH 5.04 A AND 10.01.

AND THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD BE WHAT.

WE'RE MOVING THE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION IN OFFICE AT THE TIME, OR IF REQUIRED, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION IN OFFICE AT THE TIME. NO.

OKAY. I AM A YES.

CONSENSUS. SO SUPPORT THE CHANGES.

6.02. THIS IS FOR MINIMUM LENGTH OF RESIDENCY TO BECOME A CANDIDATE FOR OFFICE.

WE WOULD BE ADDING A LINE IN HERE THAT SAYS EACH CANDIDATE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE CLERK OR CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE LINE THAT WAS GOING IN HERE. FROM OUR PAST DISCUSSION AT THE WORKSHOP.

IT WAS. THERE WAS DISCUSSION IN THE AS I RECALL THE ISSUE THAT IT WAS WHAT IS THE PERIOD OF TIME.

IF YOU DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH INSERTING A TIME FRAME WE CAN TAKE LANGUAGE FROM.

THIS IS NOT AN UNCOMMON PROVISION WE CAN TAKE FROM ANOTHER CHARTER AND PUT IT IN THERE.

THE WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THE CANDIDATE HAS TO RESIDE IN THE DISTRICT.

SO FIRST WE WILL FIND IF WE HAVE SUPPORT FOR A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR A LENGTH OF TIME, AND THEN IF SO, WE WILL THEN SEE THE NUMBER, IF THERE'S A MAGIC NUMBER THAT AT LEAST THREE CAN SUPPORT.

VICE MAYOR. BUT I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

IF SOMEONE MOVES INTO THE CITY AND THEY WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE, IT'S UP TO THEM TO MAKE THEMSELVES KNOWN IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE WILL DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO HELP THEM OR NOT. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I HAD SOME TIME TO TO THINK ABOUT THIS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND THE LIKE.

YES OR NO, IF POSSIBLE PLEASE? WE WERE ASKED TO TRY TO MOVE THIS ALONG.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU AND I WILL TRY TO MOVE IT ALONG.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAYOR.

CAN I GET CONSENSUS TO GO TO LINE BY LINE WITH A YES OR NO? AND NO DISCUSSION.

WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT ABILITY.

CAN WE CAN YOU CALL THE ROW FOR CONSENSUS? I'LL CALL THE ROLL FOR CONSENSUS.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS? YES. VICE MAYOR.

NO. COMMERCIAL PLACKO.

I THINK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, IT'S, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IS JUST FOR US TO SAY YES OR NO ON THE ITEMS VERSUS HAVING DISCUSSION ON THEM, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION ON THEM IN THE PAST. SO HE'S JUST ASKING IN GENERAL FOR US TO DO YES OR NO, DID I GET THAT RIGHT?

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COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS IS ASKING FOR US TO JUST AS GENERAL FOR THE REST OF THIS, JUST GO YES OR NO, YES OR NO.

ALL RIGHT. SO IS YES OR NO? WE'RE NOT ON THAT SPECIFIC ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

YES OR NO, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO JUST YES OR NO THIS AND HAVE NO CONVERSATION.

SO THAT'S A NO TO NOT HAVING A CONVERSATION.

SO WE'VE GOT TWO NO'S.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YES.

TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

SO THAT'S THREE PEOPLE.

SO THE ANSWER IS IT FAILS.

SO I'M BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THANK YOU.

THE GENERAL.

THANK YOU FOR THE FLOOR, MAYOR.

SO THERE ARE EXCELLENT PEOPLE WHO MOVES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MOVES OUT.

THERE IS CAROL MENDELSOHN THAT DOES NOT OWN A HOME IN TAMARAC.

BUT SHE'S RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

OKAY, LET'S LET'S NOT DO THAT, COMMISSIONER.

LET'S KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO WHY YOU WOULD LIKE OR WOULD NOT LIKE WITHOUT.

YOU'RE JUST VIOLATED.

AND THIS IS MY DISCUSSION.

DISCUSSION. BUT YOU DO NOT CALL OUT PEOPLE FROM THE AUDIENCE.

YOU DON'T CALL OUT ANYBODY SPECIFIC.

PLEASE PROCEED WITHOUT THE COMMENTARY.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE, CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR OFFICE AT THIS TIME WHO JUST MOVED INTO THE CITY WHO PROBABLY DO NOT OWN A HOME IN THE CITY AND COULD BE TRANSIENT.

THAT IS NOT A BAD THING.

IT IS ACTUALLY COMMENDABLE THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE LIVING IN OTHER CITIES, WANTING TO BE A PART OF A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND WANTING TO MOVE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO RUN FOR OFFICE.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA.

IT IS IT IS NOT INCUMBENT UPON A PERSON TO RUN FOR OFFICE, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THEY HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY VERSUS HOW SHORT THEY'VE LIVED IN THE CITY.

SO EVERYBODY'S QUALITY.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERYBODY HAVE EQUAL FOOTING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

I THINK WE SHOULD, CONSIDERING THAT ANYBODY CAN JUST MOVE IN AND RUN FOR OFFICE AND EVER LIVED IN THE CITY THAT THEY DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT.

AND ANYONE DECIDING TO RUN SHOULD HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, AS THEY SAY.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF PUTTING IN TIME, WHETHER IT'S ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS OF RESIDENCY PRIOR TO BEING BEING ABLE TO RUN IN OFFICE IN TAMARAC.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

CAN YOU PUSH YOUR MIC ON PLEASE? THANK YOU. OH, ONE MORE THING.

CAROL MENDELSOHN DOES OWN A PROPERTY AND..

COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU. WELL, I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE COMMENTS.

AND YES, PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME, BUT IN ORDER TO EVEN ENTER INTO THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO VENTURE INTO IT.

I WOULD HATE TO PRECLUDE SOMEONE WHO I MEAN, MAYBE MOVED OUT OF THE CITY AND NOW HAS MOVED BACK AND THEY'VE ONLY MOVED BACK FOR SIX MONTHS.

I WOULD HATE TO EXCLUDE THEM FROM THAT.

I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE A FAIR SHOT.

SO THE ONLY WAY I THINK MAYBE I WOULD MAYBE A SIX MONTHS, A YEAR AT THE MOST, NEVER TWO YEARS.

WE CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO HAVE TO LIVE HERE FOR TWO YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN RUN FOR OFFICE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.

SO IF WE CAN COME TO SOMETHING REASONABLE, I MAY AGREE TO THAT.

IF NOT, PROBABLY NOT.

THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY A YEAR.

AND IF IN USING THE COMMISSIONER PLACKO'S EXAMPLE IF THERE'S SOMEONE WHO IS BACK.

MAYBE WE CAN PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SHOWS THAT IT SATISFIES THE REQUIREMENT IF THEY MOVE IN RIGHT AWAY AND THEY WANT TO RUN.

SO I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A YEAR.

SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR A YEAR AT THIS TIME.

MOVING TO 11.01.

AND THIS IS DEALING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MAKING THE CITY ATTORNEY VIA SUPERMAJORITY.

AS WELL, SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE CITY MANAGER.

A POINT OF ORDER MADAM MAYOR.

QUESTION FOR, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR FOR THE FLOOR.

A POINT OF ORDER. ATTORNEY WHEN WE MAKE THESE CHANGES, IF THE VOTERS DECIDE TO MAKE THE CHANGES.

WHEN DO THEY GO INTO EFFECT?

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THEY WOULD GO INTO EFFECT AS SOON AS THE ELECTION WAS CERTIFIED BY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS.

AND THE RESULTS OF THAT ELECTION WERE WAS DULY ACCEPTED BY THIS BODY THAT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.

AND ARE YOU SURE THAT THAT IS NOT CHALLENGEABLE BY LAW? AS I SPOKE TO A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY AND IT IS THE ATTORNEY'S POSITION THAT SOME TIME WOULD HAVE TO BE GIVEN BEFORE CHARTER CHANGES ARE ENACTED.

I. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING IN FLORIDA LAW THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT.

AND IN FACT, THE LANGUAGE IN THE BALLOT THAT WAS PUT FORWARD BEFORE THE RESIDENTS OF TAMARAC.

THE LAST TIME AROUND THERE WAS A CHARTER ADOPTION PROVIDED FOR IT TO GO INTO EFFECT AS SOON AS THE ELECTION.

THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS WERE APPROVED, IF YOU WISH TO PUT IN A TIME FRAME THAT IT WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT FOR TWO YEARS AFTER IT'S APPROVED.

THAT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION TO DO SO, TO DO THAT AS WELL.

BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING IN FLORIDA LAW THAT WOULD, THAT STATES THAT CHARTER AMENDMENTS DON'T GO INTO EFFECT AS SOON AS THEY'RE APPROVED BY THE ELECTORATE.

IF YOU WOULD JUST LOOK INTO THAT CLOSELY.

I CERTAINLY WILL. AND JUST THE PART B TO THAT QUESTION, LET'S SAY THERE IS A BALLOT QUESTION THAT IS IN.

THAT CONTRADICTS ANOTHER BALLOT QUESTION, FOR INSTANCE.

STRONG MAYOR. THAT QUESTION IS ON THERE.

AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT TALKS ABOUT SUPERMAJORITY OF THE CITY MANAGER.

THEN IF BOTH PASSES, WHAT THEN HAPPENS? THE YOU WOULD END UP HAVING AN INTERNAL INCONSISTENCY WITHIN THE CHARTER AND I'VE HEARD THAT ISSUE POSED. I WOULD HAVE TO AND I WILL RESEARCH WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING THERE. I MY UNDERSTANDING AND I AND I'M NOT 100% SURE ON THIS IS THE CHARTER PROVISION THAT GARNERS THE MOST VOTES TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE INCONSISTENT IS THE ONE THAT GETS GETS PRECEDENCE BECAUSE IT RECEIVED MORE VOTES.

BUT I DON'T WANT YOU OR ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS TO RELY UPON THAT QUITE YET UNTIL I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

ALONG WITH THE OTHER MATTER THAT YOU JUST ASKED ABOUT TIME FRAME OF WHEN ITEMS GO INTO EFFECT.

OKAY. I COULD GO ON WITH A COMMENTARY, BUT I'LL SAVE IT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, RATIFYING ELECTIONS IS NOT NECESSARILY CHARTER QUESTIONS, BUT.

BUT CANDIDATES. SO PLEASE LOOK AND LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

SO BACK TO 11.01, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU SUPPORT THE CHANGE OF SUPER MAJORITY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

OKAY. SO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC CAME TO THE MICROPHONE TONIGHT AND AND SPOKE NEGATIVELY ABOUT OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT ONE DAY.

THAT RESIDENT WOULD HOPE THAT THE ATTORNEY BE CHANGED.

WHETHER IN CHARACTER, PRACTICE OR VIEW OF THE LAW OR CHANGED IN GENERAL.

IF IF WE GO TO A SUPERMAJORITY, GETTING RID OF THAT ATTORNEY WOULD BE HARDER AND SO WOULD BE GOING AGAINST WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SAYING.

AND SO BECAUSE THE PUBLIC'S VIEW, AT LEAST FROM TONIGHT'S COMMENTARY, DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

I THINK THIS COMMISSION WOULD SHOULD NOT CONSIDER A STRONG MAYORSHIP.

IT WOULD BE VERY DANGEROUS.

EXCUSE ME. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE SUPERMAJORITY.

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SUPERMAJORITY? YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF SUPERMAJORITY FOR ATTORNEY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

YES, I THINK 5.02 AND 11.01 NEED TO BE CONSISTENT.

SUPERMAJORITY. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

WE DON'T NEED A SUPERMAJORITY TO BE ELECTED ON THIS COMMISSION AND SHOULD NOT TAKE A SUPERMAJORITY TO REMOVE OR SUSPEND A CITY MANAGER OR A CITY ATTORNEY. SO NO.

THANK YOU. I AM IN SUPPORT.

THIS PASSES. WE'RE UP TO 12.10 AMENDMENTS.

DELETE THAT COMMISSION MAY NOT AMEND THIS CHARTER BY ORDINANCE EXCEPT AS PROVIDED BY LAW.

IS BEING PULLED UP ON THE SCREEN.

AND BEFORE ANYBODY GETS CONCERNED, THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL QUICKLY CONFIRM THE REASON FOR WHY THERE'S A DELETION REQUEST FOR THIS DELETION.

THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THIS GOES BACK TO THE INITIAL DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO THE ITEM THAT'S CURRENTLY AGREED TO AT 7.009, IN THAT THERE IS STATE LAW THAT DOES ALLOW THIS CITY COMMISSION TO MAKE CHANGES TO YOUR CHARTER IN TWO VERY NARROW CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND SO THE IDEA WAS TO PROVIDE THE CITY COMMISSION THAT FLEXIBILITY WHICH IS PROVIDED TO YOU BY STATE LAW. IT'S UP TO YOU AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WISH TO LEAVE THE LANGUAGE IN AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

BUT THE CHARTER BOARD RECOMMENDED MODIFYING THAT PROVISION TO BE, AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ON THAT NOTE, VICE MAYOR.

NO CHANGE. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

THE TWO SECTIONS ARE WHEN PEOPLE ARE QUALIFIED AND WHEN THE ELECTION CAN TAKE PLACE.

SO IF YOU WISH TO MOVE YOUR ELECTION DATE AND THEREFORE THE TIME FRAME IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN QUALIFY TO BE RUN FOR THAT NEXT ELECTION, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO AREAS THAT STATE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO CHANGE THE CHARTER.

MY ORDINANCE AS OPPOSED TO MY CHARTER AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT CLARIFICATION, VICE MAYOR, DO YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND OR YOU'RE STILL A NO.

STILL A NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW.

SO I'LL TAKE THAT AS A YES.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

NO.

CONSISTENCY. I VOTE YES.

SECTION 12.12, REMOVING THE SECTION IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR BEING OUTDATED AND OBSOLETE.

CITY COUNCIL IS CHANGED TO A CITY COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS NO, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO ADD VOTER FATIGUE.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO. CERTAINLY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

YES. VICE MAYOR.

YES, WE'RE A COMMISSION, SO IT SHOULD BE REFLECTED.

WE'RE NOT A COUNCIL ANYMORE, SIMPLE.

CITY ATTORNEY. WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS JUST GOING TO REMOVE THAT WHOLE PARAGRAPH.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

IT'S A CLEAN UP. IT'S YOU ALREADY ALL ARE CALLED CITY COMMISSION.

THAT'S THE CURRENT LANGUAGE AND DESIGNATION THAT HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE THE LAST CHARTER AMENDMENT.

AND THE CHARTER BOARD FELT THAT IT WAS SUPERFLUOUS SINCE IN FACT, SINCE 1994, YOU ALL HAVE GONE BY CITY COMMISSION.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PARKER.

YES. I ACTUALLY LIKE CITY COUNCIL BETTER, BUT.

THAT'S FINE. YES, YES.

TO THE REMOVAL OF IT.

I DON'T CARE IF IT'S REMOVED OR NOT.

PERSONALLY, I THINK THIS IS ONE ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK AROUND.

WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE ON MY LIST FOR BRINGING IT BACK AROUND FOR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PUT ON THIS BALLOT DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE ALREADY CALLED IT.

AND IF IT'S JUST GOING TO CAUSE VOTER FATIGUE WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON, SO THERE ALREADY IS A CONSENSUS FOR IT WAS IT WAS THREE.

AND SO WE'LL COME BACK AROUND FOR THE REST OF THESE ANYWAY.

CITY ATTORNEY. YEAH, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS DURING THE WORKSHOP AND I'LL MENTION IT AGAIN IN CASE I DID NOT, THAT WHEN IT COMES TO

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FIVE OR SIX OF THESE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS, AS IT GOES BEFORE THE ELECTORATE, WE'RE WE WILL TRY AND AND ESSENTIALLY CONSOLIDATE.

SO WHAT WHAT IT WILL WHAT THE QUESTION IS LIKELY TO READ IS DOES ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF DELETING OBSOLETE PROVISIONS OF THE CITY CHARTER AND THAT WOULD YES OR NO, THANK YOU.

AND THEN I KNOW WHEN WE COME BACK AROUND IN TWO WEEKS, YOU WILL HAVE IT IN A MANNER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO READ IT SO WE CAN BE CLEAR ON IT.

IF POSSIBLE AT THAT TIME AS WELL.

IF WE CAN HAVE WHATEVER SAMPLE EDUCATION PIECE BECAUSE US AS THE COMMISSION AFTER WE VOTE FOR THE ORDINANCE TO GO FORWARD, WE HAVE WE DO NOT TELL YOU YES OR NO WHAT YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR.

WE EDUCATE YOU ONLY WE WILL NOT HAVE AN OPINION AFTER WE FINISH OUR VOTE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.

SO..CAN I GUESS SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT OPINION THING.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WE DON'T HAVE AN OPINION AFTER IT'S VOTED.

SO ONCE WE VOTE ON THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE PUT FORTH TO THE SUPERVISOR ELECTION TO THEN BE SUBMITTED TO OUR RESIDENTS OR OUR VOTERS FOR VOTING UPON, WE CAN GO OUT AND EDUCATE EACH OF OUR RESIDENTS ON OR VOTERS ON WHAT THE ITEMS MEAN.

BUT WE CANNOT SAY OUR OPINION ON IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE TO PROMOTE IT OR OR BE AGAINST IT.

WE'RE ONLY EDUCATORS TO THE ITEMS ON THE CHARTER.

OUR JOB IS TO JUST EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS NOT TO BE SUPPORTIVE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

CITY ATTORNEY THROUGH THE CHAIR.

SO IT WOULD BE UNLAWFUL IF COMMISSIONERS OR THE MAYOR BEGIN TO GIVE THEIR OPINIONS TO THE PUBLIC.

THERE'S A STATE STATUTE THAT PREEMPTED THIS AREA, AND THE STATE A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK SAID THAT GOVERNMENT RESOURCES CANNOT BE USED TO ADVOCATE FOR A PARTICULAR POSITION OR AGAINST A PARTICULAR POSITION ON A BALLOT INITIATIVE OR STATE STATUTE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT REFERENDUM, BUT THAT YOU CAN USE GOVERNMENT RESOURCES TO, AS THE MAYOR SAID, EDUCATE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION, BUT YOU CANNOT USE CITY RESOURCES TO ADVOCATE FOR ONE CHARTER AMENDMENT VERSUS ANOTHER.

YOU CAN USE CITY RESOURCES TO EDUCATE.

AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, IS THAT A PUBLIC RESOURCE OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL FINANCES AND PUSHING AN AGENDA? IT'S, I GUESS THE EASIEST EXAMPLE TO GIVE IS IF THE CITY WERE TO PUT ON ITS WEBSITE SOMETHING THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, VOTE FOR THESE CHARTER AMENDMENTS, BUT DON'T VOTE FOR THOSE, THAT WOULD BE AN INAPPROPRIATE USE OF CITY RESOURCES PURSUANT TO THAT STATE STATUTE THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE.

THE VERSUS IF THIS AMENDMENT IS OR.

. MY QUESTION IS, I'M A PUBLIC RESOURCE.

RIGHT. BECAUSE I'M A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

IS THAT USING PUBLIC RESOURCES? YOU CAN'T USE YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR THE RESOURCES OF YOUR OFFICE.

YOU CANNOT SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS SAYING, I'M IN FAVOR OF THESE PROVISIONS OR CHARTER AMENDMENTS, BUT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THOSE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO GOING BACK TO 12.12.

NOPE, WE ALREADY DID. 12.12.

SORRY. 14.01 ORDINANCES PRESERVE REMOVE THE SECTION IN ITS ENTIRETY AND HEARING WHAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID, THAT THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE CAN PUT ON THAT SAYS IT'S OBSOLETE AND BEING REMOVED IN ITS ENTIRETY.

IS THAT CORRECT CITY ATTORNEY? IRONICALLY, THIS SECTION OF THE CHARTER SAYS THAT BY RESOLUTION YOU CAN DELETE OBSOLETE PROVISIONS IN ARTICLE 14, WHICH THEN KIND OF BEGS THE QUESTION OF THE CHARTER PROVISION THAT SAYS YOU CAN ONLY DO IT BY BY A CHARTER AMENDMENT.

BUT THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS THAT THESE OBSOLETE PROVISIONS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE CHARTER BOARD AND REFLECTED AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE ON THE SCREEN, THAT THEY CAN BE DELETED BY RESOLUTION OR YOU CAN PUT THEM AGAIN TO THE ELECTORATE AS TO SIMPLY THE QUESTION OF SHALL THE OBSOLETE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER BE DELETED?

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SO I'M GOING TO PUT THIS FORTH TO OUR COMMISSION, TO THE CONSENSUS I WOULD LIKE OR JUST HAVE TO BE A MOTION TO HAVE A RESOLUTION REMOVING SECTION 14, AS OUR CHARTER HAS ALREADY GIVEN US AUTHORITY TO DO SO.

EITHER WAY. SO DO YOU NEED A MAJORITY? IF THERE'S A MAJORITY CONSENSUS, WILL BRING THAT RESOLUTION BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

NO. COMMISSIONER PLACKO? YES. VICE MAYOR.

NO. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS YES.

AND I AM A YES, SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE RESOLUTION TO DELETE DELETE NUMBER 14, NOT JUST SO WE'RE AGAIN THE ITEMS WITHIN CHARTER 14. NOT ALL OF THE ARTICLE 14 IS WILL BE DELETED BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS THAT ARE NOT OBSOLETE. BUT YOU'LL BE BRINGING BACK BY RESOLUTION ANY ITEMS IN ARTICLE 14 THAT WE CAN.

THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.

I AM GOING TO WAIT.

I WILL GO TO 17.14.

SO I'M HAVING YOU GO BACKWARDS.

SORRY, JIM, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY.

IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST WORKSHOP.

IT WAS NOT ON THIS LIST.

THIS IS THE 1 TO 7.14 PLEASE.

THIS IS THE ONE WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO CLEAN IT UP.

FOR IT TO BE CONTRACTS FOR THE SERVICE OF PROFESSIONALS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS ENTERED INTO, IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STATE LAW TO JUST BE SIMPLY CONTRACTS FOR THE SERVICE OF PROFESSIONALS OR TO BE ENTERED INTO IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS THE CHANGE THAT IS BEING SOUGHT.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. COMMISSIONER.

PLACKO. YOUR MIC. WHY IS ATTORNEYS BEING REMOVED? WE DO HAVE OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THERE'S NO PARTICULAR PROVISION IN STATE LAW THAT TALKS ABOUT THE WAY THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, CAN SELECT THEIR ATTORNEYS.

AND, IN FACT, IN YOUR CITY CODE AND YOUR PROCUREMENT CODE, WHICH IS DIRECTED IN THE CHARTER THAT YOU HAVE TO DO SO, SAYS THAT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ARE EXEMPT. THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHICH IS WHAT THIS SECTION OF THE CHARTER WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO ADDRESS, THAT BY STATE LAW MUST GO THROUGH A SPECIFIC PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

WE CAN'T EVEN CHANGE IT.

THERE'S IT'S CALLED THE CONSULTANTS COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATIONS ACT, AND IT APPLIES TO ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.

BUT AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, AT THE TIME THAT THIS WAS THIS SECTION OF THE CHARTER WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED, THE STATE STATUTE DIDN'T IDENTIFY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AS AN ADDITIONAL GROUP.

AND IT COULD CHANGE IT COULD CHANGE TO INCLUDE ATTORNEYS IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS JUST SIMPLY THAT ALL CONTRACTS FOR SERVICE, FOR THE SERVICE OF PROFESSIONALS ARE TO BE ENTERED INTO IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.

IF THERE'S A STATE LAW OUT THERE, THEN WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IT IN THIS LANGUAGE.

THAT LANGUAGE WOULD CAPTURE THAT THAT SITUATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON. NO.

VICE MAYOR. CITY ATTORNEY WHO DEFINES PROFESSIONALS.

WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT CATEGORY? WELL, IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT DEPENDING UPON IF THERE'S AN APPLICABLE STATE LAW, AS I EXPLAINED BEFORE AND IN THE INSTANCE OF THE CONSULTANT COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATIONS ACT, PROFESSIONALS ARE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED AS ARCHITECT ENGINEERS, SURVEYORS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.

THE IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM IT JUST SAID ARCHITECT ENGINEERS.

AND IT'S BEEN SINCE THEN BEEN MODIFIED TWICE, ONE TO INCLUDE SURVEYORS AND A SECOND TIME TO INCLUDE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS.

THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION.

AND SO IT WOULD BE WHATEVER STATE STATUTE WOULD APPLY FOR THAT PARTICULAR GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS IS WHATEVER DEFINITION IS SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FROM THAT. YOU HAVE THIS COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY TO ALSO BY JUST CHANGING YOUR CODE.

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PROVIDE FOR WHAT OTHER WISE MIGHT BE A DEFINITION OF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

OKAY? NO.

I HAVE A YES, CONSENSUS MOVES FORWARD.

THE LAST ITEMS BEING GROUPING THIS PARDON.

OH, I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT I ASKED YOU FIRST.

MY APOLOGIES. THANK YOU.

SO HAVING A DEFINITION SECTION THAT WILL ENCOMPASS BASICALLY THE GENDER NEUTRAL, SINGULAR, PLURAL, LEGAL DESCRIPTION AS AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME FOR STATE LAW AND TO PROVIDE FOR CONSISTENCY OF THE COST FOR DUPLICATION OF PUBLIC RECORDS AND DO WE HAVE A YES OR NO FOR THAT ONE? I WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. VICE MAYOR.

NO. COMMISSIONER PLACKO? YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

A POINT OF ORDER MADAM MAYOR.

I KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE PRESIDING OFFICER, BUT JUST REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE TO BE IN THE ROTATION AS WELL BECAUSE YOU KEEP GOING LAST.

BUT MY ANSWER IS NO.

NO IS FOR TWO NO'S AND I'M A YES.

SO THEREFORE THIS WILL PASS AT THIS TIME.

BASICALLY AS A RECAP, WE HAVE 2.01 YESES WITH DEPENDS.

WE HAVE NO TO 4.01.

WE HAVE YES TO 5.02B.

YES TO 5.02B.

YES TO 6.02 YES TO 7.09, WHICH IS ORIGINAL.

YES TO 7.14.

YES TO 10.01.

YES TO 11.01.

YES TO 12.10.

YES TO 12.2.

YES TO 1401.

AND YES TO DEFINITIONS.

THAT'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN, 11 YESES.

IS THAT CORRECT CITY CLERK? I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR.

I'M COUNTING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

NO WORRIES. THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO IF WE CAN AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, HAVE A SAMPLE OF THE ORDINANCE, HAVING THE INFORMATION FROM THIS EVENING SO THAT THE COMMISSIONERS, THE COMMISSION, CAN LOOK AT THINGS AND HAVE IT ALL AT THEIR FINGERTIPS.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, WE'LL BE ABLE TO KNOW IF WE NEED TO PARE DOWN ANYTHING FOR THE BALLOT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS ITEM IS NOW DONE AND WE WILL BE MOVING ON TO SIX..

MADAM MAYOR, NO WE'RE NOT.

WHY? I MEAN, I THINK THAT I NEED A MOTION ORDINANCE, SO I NEED A MOTION AND A ROLL CALL VOTE TO MOVE THE ITEM TO SECOND HEARING AND OR SECOND READING AND HEARING AS AS AMENDED.

THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, I GUESS I FELT I WAS AT A WORKSHOP.

MY APOLOGIES. SO WE ALREADY HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND DEALING WITH 7.09.

SHOULD WE JUST SIMPLY DO A MOTION, A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MODIFY AS STATED? YES, MA'AM. THERE SHOULD BE A MOTION TO AMEND THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING CONSISTENT WITH THE VOTE ON THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. THANK YOU. SO COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

YOU HAD MADE THE MOTION.

DO YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? YES.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, YOU HAD THE SECOND.

DO YOU ACCEPT? YES.

THANK YOU. SEEING THAT CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SORRY.

THANK YOU. MOTION PASS 3 TO TWO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW WE WILL GO TO 6B T02500 AMENDING CHAPTER NINE HEALTH, SANITATION AND NUISANCES.

[6.b TO2500 - An Ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Tamarac, Florida,amending Chapter Nine "Health, Sanitation and Nuisances", Article III "Noise",Section 9089 "Radios, Other Devices Casting Sounds Upon Public Places" andSection 9-95 "Enforcement" to provide for easier enforcement of, and enhancedpenalties for violations of the City's noise regulations; providing for conflicts;providing for scrivener's errors, severability; an providing for an effective date.]

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CITY ATTORNEY WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD? YES, MA'AM. MAYOR, THIS IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE. THE CITY COMMISSION.

THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER NINE HEALTH SANITATION NUISANCE.

ARTICLE 3, NOISE SECTION 9-89 RADIOS, OTHER DEVICES, CASTING SOUNDS UPON PUBLIC PLACES, AND SECTION 9.95 ENFORCEMENT TO PROVIDE FOR EASIER ENFORCEMENT OF AND ENHANCED PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS OF THE CITY'S NOISE REGULATIONS.

PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SCRIBNER'S ERROR, SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MADAM MAYOR THE AT PRIOR COMMISSION MEETINGS.

THIS BODY HAS DIRECTED STAFF, INCLUDING MY OFFICE, TO AFTER LOTS OF DISCUSSION HOW THE CITY CAN.

ENHANCE AND AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF TO ENFORCE THE EXISTING REGULATIONS AND JUST AS IMPORTANTLY TO AND PROVIDE FOR ENHANCED PENALTIES SO THAT THE VIOLATION PROCESS THROUGH CONCLUSION STARTS TO BECOME A FINANCIAL DISINCENTIVE FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE CONSIDERING OR WHO MAY BE ENGAGING IN ACTIVITY THAT CONSTITUTES A NOISE VIOLATION UNDER OUR REGULATIONS.

THE ORDINANCE IS FAIRLY SHORT IN THE SENSE THAT WE JUST PUT IN THAT SECTION OF ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 9.95 AND 9.89 THAT PROVIDE FOR THAT ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT OR EASIER ENFORCEMENT AND THEN THE PENALTIES TO ENHANCE THEM.

SO YOU ALREADY HAVE LANGUAGE IN YOUR CODE THAT MIRRORS WHAT IS BEING SUGGESTED AS FAR AS THE PENALTIES. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN THAT EXISTING LANGUAGE THAT IS FOUND IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STATUTE AND MADE THEM INTERNALLY CONSISTENT WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY, AS POINTED OUT, THE CODE HAD A LIMITATION ON WHAT THE AMOUNT OF FINE THAT COULD BE IMPOSED UPON SOMEONE FOR A NOISE VIOLATION OF $250 FOR THE FIRST OCCURRENCE, AND $500 MAX FOR A SECOND OR REPEAT VIOLATION.

AS SET FORTH IN THE PAGE.

IT'S ACTUALLY MY PAGE SIX, WHICH I KNOW IT'S NOT THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR YOU ALL.

AGAIN, WE'VE TAKEN THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION 1-13 REFERENCED IT, AS WELL AS THE ABILITY OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO IMPOSE THE ENHANCED FINES OF NOT EXCEEDING $1,000 PER DAY FOR FIRST VIOLATION, NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 PER DAY FOR REPEAT VIOLATION AND UP TO A FINE OF $15,000 FOR PER VIOLATION IF THE VIOLATION IS FOUND TO BE IRREPARABLE OR REVERSIBLE IN NATURE.

STAND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY OR MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. I SEE THAT COMMISSIONER PLACKO WANTS TO SPEAK, BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GET TWO THINGS DONE.

ONE, WE HAVE A SLIGHT TYPO AND I BELIEVE IT'S 9-89 VERSUS 9089.

SO SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, WE'LL CORRECT THE SCRIBNER'S ERROR, PLEASE.

YES, WE WILL CORRECT THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND NOW I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND TO MOVE THIS MATTER.

SO MOVE. UNKNOWN PARTICIPANT IS NOW EXITING.

ALL RIGHTY, THEN. SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER PLACKO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME? IT SAYS HERE.

IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO OPERATE IN ANY PLACE.

PREMISES CITY RADIO DEVICE OF ANY KIND WHERE THE SOUNDS THERE FROM OUR CAST DIRECTLY UPON PUBLIC STREETS IN PLACES, THE ADJACENT LOSS NEAREST TO THE SOURCE OR AT A DISTANCE OF 25 FEET.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE DETERMINED? HOW AND WHO IS GOING TO DETERMINE THAT? WELL, THE OFFICER ON SITE, WHETHER IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT OR DEPUTY, WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS AND PACE OFF THAT DISTANCE.

AND IF THEY'RE PAST THE 25 FEET FROM THE SOURCE MEASUREMENT AND THE NOISE IS OF SUCH A NATURE TO CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION, THEY WOULD DOCUMENT THAT AND ISSUE THE APPROPRIATE NOTICE OF VIOLATION OR CITATION TO THE PERSON

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ENGAGING IN THE PROHIBITED ACTIVITY.

AND WHAT WOULD DETERMINE THAT THE SOUND AT THAT 25 FEET WAS A NUISANCE? THERE IS CRITERIA IN THE CODE.

WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU, CERTAINLY IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND INCLUDED IN HERE.

THAT DESCRIBES WHAT THOSE THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT HAVE TO BE OBSERVED AND DETERMINED BY THE SPECIAL, BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR THE DEPUTY ON SITE AS TO WHAT THOSE OBSERVATIONS ARE TO MEET THAT CRITERIA.

AND THERE'S ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN IN THE CODE THAT SAY THAT IF YOU TRIGGER ANY OF THESE, THEN THAT CONSTITUTES A NOISE VIOLATION. AND IF YOU WISH IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT, I CAN.

NO, MY POINT IS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR T'S CROSSED AND OUR EYES DOTTED.

SO THERE'S NOT A LOOPHOLE HERE.

THAT'S MY POINT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT FROM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS THE CITY ATTORNEY, THAT LANGUAGE DIDN'T NEED TO BE MODIFIED.

IT IS LEGALLY SUFFICIENT AND ENFORCEABLE.

IT IS WHAT IS BEING USED TODAY BY BY YOUR STAFF AND BY BSO.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN OUR CITING INDIVIDUALS FOR THOSE VIOLATIONS.

WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING IS THAT IN SOME INSTANCES, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WHO THEN HEARS THE CASE IS SAYING, WELL, I CAN ONLY IMPOSE A $250 FINE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT NOISE VIOLATION BY EXAMPLE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE THE THE DELTA, THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN WHAT THEY MAY BE GAINING IN AND INCOME BY PLAYING THAT LOUD NOISE VERSUS WHAT THE FINE IS.

THERE'S NO DISINCENTIVE FOR THEM TO STOP BECAUSE ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS PAY A $250 FINE OR AT MOST A 500 IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

WHAT WE'RE GIVEN HERE IS AN ADDITIONAL TOOL TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE ENHANCED PENALTIES, IF APPROPRIATE.

THANK YOU. IT ALSO SAYS HERE AN ALLEGED VIOLATION OF THIS ARTICLE.

AND WE'VE TAKEN OUT SHELL AND REPLACED IT WITH MAY.

AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY AS OPPOSED TO SHALL IS MANDATORY.

THAT'S I THINK THAT'S MY POINT.

AND FURTHERMORE AND THE REASON WHY WE SAID MAY IS THAT.

SO IF YOU READ DOWN IN SUBSECTION E.

THERE'S ALSO WE'VE CROSS-REFERENCED SUBJECTS, SECTION 1-13, AND THAT IS A SECTION THAT PROVIDES FOR A CATCHALL IN YOUR CODE THAT PROBABLY NONE OF YOU MAY HAVE WERE EVEN AWARE OF OR HAVE READ IT, BUT BASICALLY SAYS THAT ON CERTAIN INSTANCES, IF APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, A NOTICE TO APPEAR CAN BE ISSUED TO THE PERSON WHO IS VIOLATING THE CODE.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO APPEAR BEFORE A COUNTY COURT JUDGE AS OPPOSED TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

SO WE WANTED TO GIVE THE FULL ARRAY, THE FULL COMPLEMENT OF POTENTIAL ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS AND NOT LIMIT OURSELVES TO JUST EVERY TIME HAVING TO TAKE THE CASE TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, DEPENDING UPON AGAIN THE SEVERITY OF THE SITUATION YOU DO, YOU ALL CAN DIRECT US TO TAKE OTHER ADDITIONAL ACTIONS AS OPPOSED TO AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN GO.

IS TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

I JUST WANT TO PUT SOME CONTEXT.

THIS IS DUE TO THE PARTY HOUSES THAT WE WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH.

NOW THIS IS OVERALL.

AND THIS IS THIS APPLIES TO EVERYONE.

WHILE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE INITIAL GENESIS OR THE BEGINNING OF THIS, IT WILL APPLY TO EVERYONE.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME WIDELY CIRCULATED REPORTS IN THE PRESS ABOUT OTHER LOCATIONS.

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AND SO, AGAIN, THE IDEA HERE IS TO GIVE.

BETTER RESOURCES TO YOUR STAFF TO ENFORCE THE EXISTING REGULATIONS.

I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, I GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF MY RESIDENTS, AND HE WAS JUST LAMENTING HE AND HIS WIFE OF A HOUSE ACROSS THE CANAL THAT WAS HAVING A PARTY.

IT WAS EXTREMELY LOUD.

THIS WAS MAYBE ABOUT AFTER 11:00 AT NIGHT.

AND THE RESIDENT SAID, COME OVER, LISTEN TO THE NOISE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT THE RESIDENT DID NOT THINK THAT I WOULD TAKE HIM UP ON THE OFFER, BUT I ACTUALLY DID WENT TO THEIR HOUSE LATE AT NIGHT. I HAD A WONDERFUL CONVERSATION WITH HE AND HIS WIFE AND AND THEIR DOG.

AND I HEARD THE NOISE FROM ACROSS THE CANAL.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, IT WAS BLASTING LOUD.

AND I FELT FOR THE RESIDENT, I FELT FOR THEIR DOG, I FELT FOR THEIR CHILD SLEEPING AT THAT TIME OF THE NIGHT.

AND I HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT.

SO I JUST DROVE BY THE HOUSE WHERE THE NOISE WAS EMITTING FROM, AND I NOTICED THAT THESE WERE ACTUALLY PEOPLE WHO I KNEW FROM FROM KNOCKING ON THEIR DOOR.

SO I JUST WENT UP AND I ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, KINDLY TO TURN THE MUSIC OFF AND THAT FIXED IT.

BUT WE HAVE THIS NOISE ISSUE IN TAMARAC, NOT JUST IN MY DISTRICT, NOT JUST OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT IT IS GETTING AWFULLY LOUD AND WITH YOUNGER TIME, RIGHT.

GETTING YOUNGER, IT IS IT IS GETTING WORSE.

NOT ASSOCIATING NOISE WITH YOUNGER PEOPLE.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER PEOPLE SOMETIMES LIKE TO HAVE FUN.

SO WE NEED TO PUT A STOP TO THIS.

AND I THINK THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS A START.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS STRONG ENOUGH.

WORDS LIKE MAY AND NOT SHALL MAKES IT WATERED DOWN.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHALL SHOULD REMAIN.

AND YOU KNOW, NOT AT ME AND THAT SORT OF STUFF, BUT IT'S A GOOD START.

I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS THAT HAS REACHED OUT TO ME ASKING ABOUT THE THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT.

SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN ELECTRONIC COPY OF THIS SO I CAN FORWARD IT TO A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS SO THAT WE CAN GET THEIR INPUT AS WELL.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS FIRST READING, SO BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING WOULD PROBABLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PASS THIS AROUND TO RESIDENTS, AND THAT IS AN INVITATION TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL, PASS THIS ORDINANCE AROUND TO THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING AND ASK THEM THEIR OPINION, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM BELIEVE THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR BOOKS IS NOT SUFFICIENT AND SO WE WOULD NOT WANT TO PASS SOMETHING THAT THEY STILL THINK IS INSUFFICIENT.

SO LET US DO DUE DILIGENCE.

PASSED THIS TONIGHT AS A START, BUT PASS IT ALONG TO THE RESIDENTS.

LET THEM CHIME IN AND SEND THE THE APPROPRIATE COMMENTS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY SO THAT AT LEAST WE CAN BRING THOSE COMMENTS BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AND TRY TO FIND OUT IF THOSE ARE ACCEPTABLE COMMENTS TO TO ADD IN TO THE AT SECOND READING.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

BASICALLY SOME OF US HAVE ALREADY SENT IT AROUND TO SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN UNHAPPY.

AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT MAYBE ALL OF US SHOULD.

BUT HOPEFULLY WITH SOME CHANGES THAT MAY BE COMING.

SO PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT OUR ROADWAY IN OUR OLDER COMMUNITIES AND MOST OF OUR CITY IS OLDER COMMUNITIES. THIS 20 FEET.

SO WE HAVE MOST OF OUR HOMES ARE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER ACROSS THE STREET.

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SO 25 FEET, I THINK IS A LITTLE TOO LARGE.

I ALSO THINK THAT WE ONLY SEE THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN FOR OUR WHOLE NOISE ORDINANCE, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU WOULD CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE NEXT PACKET, MAKE SURE THAT THE WHOLE NOISE ORDINANCE, ARTICLE THREE IS INCLUDED PLEASE.

BECAUSE OUR HOMES ARE CLOSE TOGETHER.

MAJORITY OF OUR HOMES ARE CLOSE TOGETHER.

THERE ARE A FEW PLACES IN THE CITY THAT THERE'S MORE SPACE.

AND SO I HAVE SOME ISSUE WITH THE PROXIMITY AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE LOOKED AT FOR CLOSER BECAUSE 25 FEET MAKES IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE IF I'M STANDING, IF I'M GOING TO THE HOME THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON WAS TALKING ABOUT.

IF THAT HOME THAT WAS MAKING THE NOISE WAS LESS THAN 25 FEET.

WE IS IS A CONCERN IF IT'S DOING DAY BEFORE 11:00.

OUR ORDINANCES SAY SECTION 99.87 PER SAY BETWEEN 11 AND SIX PER SE, MEANING THAT IF YOU HEAR THE NOISE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

YOU HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN.

PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT SOME OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IS HAVING IS THEY LEAVE AND THE PERSON PUTS IT BACK UP AGAIN.

SO I WOULD LIKE THIS ORDINANCE TIGHTENED, PLEASE, FOR THE TIME OF ENFORCEMENT.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT BEING PUT IN THERE THROUGH FURTHER DISCUSSION DURING OUR BUDGETING.

EVERYBODY KNOWS I WANT MORE CODE.

CITY, THE CODE OFFICE MANAGER KNOWS THAT I WANT SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT FROM CODE AND GIVE THAT CITATION ON THE SPOT VERSUS HAVING TO WAIT FOR THE PROCESS.

SO, CITY ATTORNEY, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE ABILITY FOR OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO BE EMPOWERED TO GIVE THAT CITATION RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

WE NEED TO HAVE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE WHOLE ENTIRE STATUTE BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOTICE TO OWNER, SO I KNOW THE ANSWER BECAUSE I WAS JUST GIVEN TO IT RIGHT PRIOR.

BUT I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO I'M VIOLATING IT AND I'M A TENANT.

THE POLICE OFFICER COMES OUT OR HOPEFULLY COMES OUT DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF DAY IT'S GOING TO BE AND WRITES ME THE VIOLATION.

WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT THE INCREASE? IF THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD VOTE IN OF $1,000 A DAY, UP TO 15,000 IS GOING INTO EFFECT.

CITY ATTORNEY AS A GENERAL RULE, UNDER OUR IF YOU'RE IF WE'RE USING OUR GENERAL CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES, NOTICES SENT OUT TO THE OWNER OF RECORD OF THE PROPERTY.

SO IF THE OWNER OF RECORD IS A CORPORATION THAT IN THE BUSINESS OF RENTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR MULTIFAMILY HOMES, WHATEVER, THEY WILL ALSO RECEIVE A COPY OF THE NOTICE AS IN ADDITION TO THE TENANT IN THAT SITUATION.

AND ULTIMATELY UNDER THE LAW HERE IN FLORIDA, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT TAKES PLACE ON THEIR PROPERTY.

SO IF ONE OF THESE FINES GETS UNPAID AND A LIEN IS IMPOSED AND ATTACHES TO THE PROPERTY AND AND THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, AND WE TRY AND MAKE THAT INDIVIDUAL OR THAT THAT ENTITY THROUGH THEIR INDIVIDUAL CORPORATE REPRESENTATIVES AWARE OF THERE ARE THESE REGULATIONS AND YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT YOUR TENANTS OBSERVE THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO HARSH BECAUSE MOST LANDLORDS ALSO IN THEIR LEASE WILL HAVE RULES.

AND IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF MAKING THE LANDLORD AWARE THAT THE TENANT MAY NOT BE COMPLYING WITH THOSE AND THAT THEY HAVE INDEPENDENT RECOURSE.

AND IF THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT AND THE CITY COMES AFTER THEM.

FURTHER ALONG THE LINES OF THAT LIEN, BECAUSE IT'S ALSO SOME PEOPLE, RESIDENTS HAVE OTHER PROPERTIES AND THEY ARE RENTING THOSE OUT.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL LANDLORDS TO KNOW.

AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

THEY ALL WILL. I KNOW YOU'RE JUST USING AN EXAMPLE, BUT SOMETIMES CORPORATIONS MAY NOT CARE.

LET'S NOT BELIEVE THAT. BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS LIEN THAT'S ON A PROPERTY AND MAYBE THE LANDLORD GOES INTO FORECLOSURE. THIS LIEN GETS SHUT OUT, IS THAT CORRECT? IT MAY, IT DEPENDS UPON THE PRIORITY OF WHO WHO RECORDED THE LIEN FIRST.

IS IT THE MORTGAGE FIRST OR THE LIEN? I AM AWARE OF A COUPLE OF SITUATIONS WHERE A CODE ENFORCEMENT LIEN ACTUALLY HAD PRIORITY OVER THE MORTGAGE.

WELL, THAT'S THE TITLE COMPANY THAT DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB.

RIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, ADMITTEDLY.

BUT I AM AWARE OF THAT.

BUT YES, THEN WE THEN WORK WITH WE DO HAVE A PROVISIONS IN OUR CODE WHERE WE TRY AND AND REMEDY THOSE AND IF NECESSARY, IF THE

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CODE VIOLATION IS STILL EXISTING, OBVIOUSLY NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF NOISE BECAUSE IT'S A TRANSITORY AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CLARIFY IS THAT THAT NOISE VIOLATIONS ARE TRANSITORY AND CAN'T BE REMEDIED EASILY.

BUT REGULAR CODE CASES, WE IF THE PROPERTY IS STILL IN VIOLATION OF THE UNDERLYING CODE AND THE LIEN GETS WIPED OUT, WE CAN ALWAYS RE-INITIATE CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION AND START THE PROCESS ANEW AGAINST THE NEW OWNER.

SO IF I'M HAVING THE OFFICER CODE OR DEPUTY COME UP AND GIVE ME A VIOLATION AND I'M A TENANT, THE PROPERTY GOES INTO FORECLOSURE BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO BE A PRIORITY LIEN THE WAY WE CURRENTLY HAVE IT.

MORTGAGE WILL COME FIRST, THE ASSOCIATION WILL COME SECOND AND WE'RE SOMEWHERE NEXT IF LUCKY AND THE PROPERTY DOESN'T SELL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BE PAID OFF, LIEN GOES AWAY.

WE DON'T GET PAID. WE ARE SAYING THAT DESPITE THE FACT THAT I'M THE TENANT THAT'S NO LONGER THERE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY'S BEEN FORECLOSED AND I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE NOW, THE CITY CAN NOW REISSUE THAT SAME VIOLATION AGAINST THE NEW OWNER? IF THE VIOLATION HASN'T BEEN CORRECTED.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, PROPERTY A IS INVESTIGATED.

WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT.

IT'S DETERMINED THAT THEY MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A PERMIT.

THAT, IN THE EYES OF MANY IS A SERIOUS VIOLATION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO DID THE WORK, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE QUALIFIED TO DO THE WORK, AND IF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE HOME ARE SAFE FROM POTENTIAL ELECTRICAL ISSUES, WATER ISSUES, WHATEVER THEIR TENANTS, THEY MOVE OUT, THE PROPERTY GETS FORECLOSED ON.

THAT WORK THAT WAS UNPERMITTED IS STILL THERE.

AND THE NEW OWNER UNDER THE STATE STATUTE, EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY IS FORECLOSED ON, THERE'S A STATUTORY PROVISION IN CHAPTER 162 THAT SAYS THAT ANY NEW OWNER TAKES NOTICE OF THIS PRIOR CODE.

THIS IS A PREEXISTING CODE VIOLATION, AND IF THE CODE VIOLATION HAS NOT BEEN CORRECTED, THEN THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT, IF IT SO DESIRES TO RE-INITIATE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS AGAINST THE NEW OWNER, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE A SERIOUS DIFFICULTY IN THE FACT THAT THE NEW OWNER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRANSITORY VIOLATION, THAT IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU HAVE A PROPERTY AND..

MADAM MAYOR, IT'S THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH THAT SITUATION WOULD POTENTIALLY APPLY IS FACT DEPENDENT, RIGHT? EXACTLY. NOT GOING TO BE GOING, PURSUING AND REFILING AGAINST THE NEW OWNER A NOISE VIOLATION.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO SAY IT'S MUCH BROADER.

THAT'S WHY THAT'S MY POINT.

POINT BEING, THE VIOLATION GOES AWAY.

THERE'S REALLY BEEN NO REMEDY.

AND SO MY QUESTION GOES, IS THERE A WAY TO TIE THIS INTO OUR NUISANCE ORDINANCE? DO WE SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING.

OUR NUISANCE ORDINANCE TO TAKE CARE OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S STRENGTH IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BECAUSE WHAT'S THE POINT OF SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DO PENALTIES IF THEY CAN BRUSH IT OFF AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET A LIEN THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT IT, WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY A PERSON WHO OWNS A PROPERTY OR NOT OR THE TENANT.

WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT CHANGING THE CODE, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHAT THE NUISANCE SECTION OF OUR CODE IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS, WHICH ARE THOSE IT KEEPS RECURRING VERSUS THE TRANSITORY. THERE'S SOME THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS.

AND I'M FOND OF SAYING TO ELECTED OFFICIALS IN ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES I WORKED AND COUNTIES I WORKED FOR OVER THE YEARS IS THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ALSO LARGELY DEPENDENT UPON THE PROPERTY OWNER WILLING TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE.

AND THEY ALWAYS GET YOU YOU GET THE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU KNOW THE PROPERTY OWNER JUST SIMPLY SAYS, I DON'T CARE.

AND THE PROPERTY IN SOME INSTANCES CAN RACK UP HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN FINES IF NOT IN EXCESS OF THAT.

AND YOU ALL HAVE HAD SOME OF THOSE COME BEFORE YOU.

AND THERE ARE SOME CASES WHERE YOU ALL HAVE DIRECTED MY PREDECESSORS TO INITIATE ENFORCEMENT ACTION OR FORECLOSURE ON THE LIEN.

SO THERE'S A WHOLE ARRAY OF OF DIFFERENT REMEDIES, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO ABOUT POTENTIALLY BOOTSTRAPPING.

I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE DISCUSSED HERE, WE'RE NOW

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TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE ORDINANCES AND CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. SO WE WANT TO DO THIS AND DO IT RIGHT, IN MY OPINION.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT IN THE TOTALITY.

AND AT THAT POINT, I THINK MY POINTS WERE MADE.

SEEING NOTHING.

NO ONE FURTHER, I THINK.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS. GO AHEAD, SECOND.

MS. CALLAWAY IS ON. SO JUST. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WANTED TO.

OH, I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE MY COMPUTER.

MS.. CALLAWAY FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS FOR A SECOND.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT MUCH OF WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED IS ALREADY CODIFIED IN THE CODE UNDER ENFORCEMENT SECTION 9-995 ALREADY SPEAKS TO THIS ACTIVITY BEING A NUISANCE.

AND SO I THINK I'VE TAKEN NOTES ON ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF TIGHTENING THE ORDINANCE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A PROVISION ALREADY THAT SPEAKS TO THE VIOLATION OF THIS SECTION CONSTITUTED A NUISANCE AND EMPOWERING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BRING A SUIT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND I THINK YOUR POINT, MAYOR, IS THAT THE SEPARATE NUISANCE PROVISION WHERE I THINK THIS PAST YEAR WE BROUGHT TWO LIENS BEFORE YOU DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE TO ASSESS THOSE PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY VIOLATED WHERE THEY WERE, THEY WERE THERE, CODE VIOLATIONS WERE THE SUBJECT OF THAT NUISANCE PROVISION.

AND SO WE WILL LOOK INTO HOW WE CAN MAYBE BOOTSTRAP AND MAKE THESE VARIOUS CODE PROVISIONS WORK TOGETHER AND A MORE CONSISTENT, COHERENT PROCESS.

BUT CERTAINLY I'M SITTING HERE TELLING YOU THAT IT IS THE POSITION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE STAFF IS TO PROVIDE FOR ENHANCEMENT AND TO MAKE THIS EASIER AND.

IN SOME RESPECTS PECUNIARY SAID THAT THERE'S THERE'S SOME THERE ARE SOME FINANCIAL REASONS WHY SOMEONE NOW HAS AN INCENTIVE TO COMPLY AS OPPOSED TO VIOLATE THE NOISE ORDINANCE OR THE NOISE REGULATIONS.

THANK YOU BOTH. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, IS THIS ITEM GOING TO BE TABLED CONSIDERING COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S RECOMMENDATION TO SAY CIAO AND THEN ALL YOUR QUESTIONS TO.

I'M CONFUSED. I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN.

THIS IS COMING BACK TO US IN SECOND READING FOR WITH REVISIONS.

IF THIS COMMISSION SO CHOOSES OR IF THIS IS A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL SUCH TIME REVISIONS WILL BE MADE, THAT'S A SEPARATE THING.

IS THIS A MOTION OR IS THIS JUST A COMMENT? I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO, AS COMMISSIONER BOLTON SAID, HAVE THE WORD CIAO.

CONSIDERING THAT COMMISSIONER PLACKO QUESTION THE MAY AND THEN ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL, I DON'T THINK THIS IS READY TO BE VOTED ON, IN MY OPINION. I BELIEVE THE PURPOSE IS TO VOTE ON THE FIRST ROUND, TO GET CHANGES MADE, TO BRING IT BEFORE SECOND READING, OR IF THE COMMISSION DECIDES THAT WE NEED TO WORKSHOP THIS FURTHER.

THIS HAS BEEN WORKSHOPPED A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HAVING AN ORDINANCE PREVENTS ENTERED TO US BECAUSE WE HAD CONSENSUS TO BRING IT FORWARD AND AN ORDINANCE CITY ATTORNEY YET.

SO LET ME I GUESS EXPLAIN IT AND TRY AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT EASIER BETTER.

THE REASON WHY THE CHANGE FROM SHALL TO MAY.

IF YOU LEAVE IN SHALL AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN IN THE NOISE REGULATIONS THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL.

THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN EVER CONSIDER A NOISE VIOLATION A MATTER IS YOUR SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

WE CAN'T GO TO COUNTY COURT.

WE CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

IT ALWAYS WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

YOU DO HAVE A SECTION WHICH IS IN VIRTUALLY EVERY SECTION OF EVERY CODE THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY HAS, WHICH IS SECTION 1-113 IN YOUR CODE ALREADY DATES BACK TO 1975.

WHENEVER IN THIS CODE OR IN ANY OTHER ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION OF THE CITY, OR IN ANY RULE, REGULATION OR ORDER PROMULGATED BY ANY OFFICER OR AGENCY OF THE CITY UNDER 40, DULY VESTED IN HIM, OR IF ANY ACT IS PROHIBITED OR IS MADE OR DECLARED TO BE UNLAWFUL OR AN OFFENSE OR A MISDEMEANOR, THE DOING OF ANY ACT AS REQUIRED OR FAILURE TO DO ANY ACT AS DECLARED TO BE UNLAWFUL OR AN OFFENSE OR A MISDEMEANOR, WHERE NO SPECIFIC PENALTIES PROVIDED THERE FOR THE VIOLATION OF ANY SUCH PROVISION OF THIS CODE OR ANY OTHER ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OR SUCH RULE, REGULATION OR ORDER SHALL BE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE NOT EXCEEDING $500 OR IMPRISONMENT FOR A

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TERM NOT EXCEEDING 90 DAYS.

I AM NOT SITTING HERE AND SUGGESTING THAT YOU CRIMINALIZE YOUR ORDINANCES.

SOME MUNICIPALITIES DO.

HISTORICALLY THIS CITY HAS NOT.

BUT IF YOU LEAVE IN SHALL WHERE CURRENTLY IS BEING PROPOSED TO SUBSTITUTE MAY.

YOU WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO DECLARE THIS A VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE, A MISDEMEANOR, AND TREAT IT IN THAT MANNER.

BECAUSE YOUR CODE SAYS IT CAN ONLY GO TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE BY CHANGING IT TO MAY YOU GIVE YOUR FLEX YOUR SELF FLEXIBILITY TO TAKE IT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE OR THROUGH ANY OTHER ENFORCEMENT METHOD THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU UNDER FLORIDA LAW.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAY AND SHALL IN THIS PARTICULAR CONTEXT.

AS A GENERAL RULE, I WOULD ACTUALLY TEND TO AGREE WITH BOTH YOU AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON THAT SHALL IS MANDATORY, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE YOU'RE ACTUALLY GIVING YOURSELF MORE FLEXIBILITY AS OPPOSED TO AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

IT ONLY LIMITS YOU TO BEING ABLE TO TAKE THESE CODE VIOLATIONS FURTHER YOUR NOISE REGULATIONS TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.

IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT THAT, THAT'S YOU.

THIS IS YOUR ORDINANCE. THIS IS YOUR, THESE ARE YOUR REGULATIONS.

YOU DIRECT US. I JUST MADE THAT CHANGE TO AGAIN, GIVE SOME INHERENT AND ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY THAT OTHERWISE IS NOT THERE.

THANK YOU. GOOD. COMMISSIONER.

BOLTON THEN COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

SO I SWITCH GEARS THEN AND AGREE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF WE MOVED ALONG WITH THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT.

I THINK THAT THERE IS JUST MORE TO BE ADDED.

I'M FINE EITHER WAY.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT EVEN IF THE CITY WOULD PLAN SOME SORT OF INTERACTIVE SESSION WITH WITH RESIDENTS, I KNOW WE'VE NOT GONE OUT IN A LONG WHILE BECAUSE OF COVID.

NOW WOULD BE A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT NOISE, TO CHIME IN ON THIS CONVERSATION AND TALK ABOUT AND ASK WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS.

AND THROUGH CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND THE ATTORNEY PRESENT, WE COULD GET MORE INFORMATION AND NOT JUST RUSH THROUGH AN ORDINANCE.

SO I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE RUSHED.

AND BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND, READING IS VERY MUCH TOO SHORT FOR TWO WEEKS.

SO I THINK TABLING WOULD BE A VERY GOOD IDEA TO GET MORE TEETH INTO IT, AND THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENTARY.

SO AM I HEARING A MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE TIME CERTAIN.

SEEING THAT I'M NOT HEARING A MOTION ON A TABLE.

IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE.

THERE'S A MOTION AND THERE'S IT'S OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO A SECOND.

BUT I WILL VERY BRIEFLY SAY THAT EITHER WAY.

WHAT I HEAR FROM YOU ALL IS THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE.

SO IF THERE'S EITHER A MOTION TO TABLE OR A MOTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO YOU IN TWO WEEKS FOR A SECOND HEARING.

WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THIS FURTHER.

AND WHEN WE FEEL AFTER TALKING TO YOU ALL AND CONTINUING TO BRIEF YOU AND KEEP YOU UPDATED ON OUR PROGRESS ON THIS DOCUMENT, THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH US MOVING IT FORWARD. OF REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTICING IT IN THE NEWSPAPER, ETC., THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH.

AND, AND SO WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND JUST YET ON THE MOTION TABLES, AS I SAID, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK IN TWO WEEKS.

DO I HAVE I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH CHANGES, OBVIOUSLY.

CAN WE CALL THE ROLL? I HAD AN. OH. OH, I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU. JOHN DOES MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY WHEN WE HAD TALKED, I BELIEVE, ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

SHOULD WE BYPASS THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND SEND THEM TO THE COURTS? THERE WOULD BE COURT COSTS WE WOULD INCUR.

YES, THERE WOULD BE COURT COSTS.

I THINK THAT MY PERSONAL OPINION IS YOU GIVE YOURSELF ALL THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO YOU.

AND NOT NECESSARILY.

AND THAT'S HENCE THE PROPOSED CHANGE, WHICH IS TO GIVE YOU FLEXIBILITY TO TAKE IT WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT.

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AS WE SEE HOW OUR EFFORTS TO IMPLEMENT THE REGULATION AND GET COMPLIANCE WORKS NOW WITH THIS ENHANCED PENALTY, WITH THE MAYBE EASIER WAY TO DETERMINE THE VIOLATION BECAUSE WE SHORTEN THE DISTANCE, HOW ALL THAT WORKS AND DO WE NOW NEED TO GO TO THAT NEXT STEP OF MAYBE STARTING TO ISSUE CITATIONS AND TREAT THEM AS ESSENTIALLY SOMEWHAT LIKE WHAT I WOULD ANALOGIZE TO A TRAFFIC TICKET WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO COUNTY COURT JUDGE.

WE GET THAT POINT.

THEN THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THAT WERE DISCUSSED, I THINK BACK WITH ONE OF THE PRIOR ORDINANCE OF IF WE WERE TO ENFORCE THIS AS A MISDEMEANOR, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THEN THERE ARE SOME PROSECUTION COSTS AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY SOME PUBLIC DEFENDER COSTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ENTER INTO IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BOTH OF THOSE AGENCIES TO COVER THOSE SITUATIONS.

AND APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT, IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THE COST OF PROSECUTION AND THE DEFENSE WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 200 AND $400.

BUT AGAIN, THE COST OF DEFENSE ONLY COMES INTO PLAY IF THE PERSON QUALIFIES AS BEING AN INDIGENT.

AND THAT'S GETTING REALLY INTO THE WEEDS.

AND THERE'S ALSO THE FACT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO IS RELATIVELY NEW, TAKING OVER FOR PRIOR STATE ATTORNEY THAT HAD BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HIS OFFICE IS WILLING TO ENTER INTO SUCH AN AGREEMENT.

WE CAN EXPLORE THAT IF IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO BE PRUDENT.

I ALSO THINK THAT WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN THIS AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN SO IT DOES HAVE SOME TEETH AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFECTED DO GET SOME RELIEF.

SO I BELIEVE THAT IN YOUR HANDS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I NEED IT'S A MINUTE RECESS.

PLEASE DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

BUT WE'RE IN RECESS FOR A MINUTE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. LESS THAN A MINUTE.

CITY CLERK, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

VICE MAYOR GELIN.

YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

YES. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

YES. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. MAYOR GOMEZ.

YES. MAYOR.

MAYOR, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT THAT MOTION WAS? SO YOU HAVE FIVE ZERO MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK AT A FUTURE DATE AMENDED BASED ON COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE MAKING IT STRONGER.

WORKING ON ENFORCEMENT.

WORKING ON PROXIMITY.

CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ARTICLE.

AND DEFINITIONS AND LIVING, EDUCATING US WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THE MAY AND WHATEVER OTHER BOOTSTRAPPING ITEMS. NOT BOOTSTRAPPING.

INTERCONNECTIVITY. EXACTLY.

INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH THE REST OF OUR CODE, WHICH WILL ALSO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND OUR POLICE TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THIS.

YES. CITY MANAGER.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANKS. OKAY, GREAT.

SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ON THAT NOTE, IT IS 9:35.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE RECESS.

WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT 9:50, IF I'VE DONE MY MATH.

CORRECT. THANK YOU.

WE'RE IN RECESS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.

WE ARE BACK AND WE WILL PROCEED NOW WITH OTHER.

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WE ARE AT 10A.

APPROVAL OF SOCIAL JUSTICE WHILE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.

[10.a Approval of Social Justice Wall Conceptual Design]

AND GIVE US A SECOND AS WE GO TO THE CLOUD.

RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT DOESN'T SAY HERE PRESENTATION, BUT SEEING THAT WE HAVE GEORGE GADSON ON THE BIG SCREEN.

HI, GEORGE. GOOD TO SEE YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.

COMMISSIONERS. IF YOU WOULD, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I AM PLEASED TO BRING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING DESIGN THAT WAS DONE BY THE MICHAEL PARKER, THE THE ARTIST SELECTED TO DO THE SOCIAL JUSTICE WALL.

I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR INPUT AND FOR GIVING HIM SOME GUIDELINES AND SOME IDEAS IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUALS TO INCLUDE.

SO JUST TO TELL YOU THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.

ONCE HE RECEIVED YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND YOUR INPUT, HE THEN TOOK THOSE IMAGES AND THEN ACTUALLY DID THE FORMATION OF THE WALL.

I BELIEVE THAT. I'M SORRY, GEORGE, IF I MAY JUST INTERRUPT FOR A MOMENT.

I'M HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME SHARING MY SCREEN.

MY COMPUTER IS THINKING IF JAMES COULD JUST PULL UP THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION SO WE CAN HAVE THE CONCEPTUAL IMAGE ON THE SCREEN, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

GREAT. GREAT.

THANK YOU. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE THE RENDITIONS DONE FOR THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN WITH THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE WALL.

AND IF YOU COULD FAST FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND HERE ARE PHOTOS THAT WERE TAKEN JUST AS A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.

I WENT OUT TO THE SITE AND TO THE TOP, TO THE FAR RIGHT THERE.

YOU ACTUALLY SEE THE WALL IN FORMATION, VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE THE DESIGNED SPLASH PAD.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IT'S GIVING US ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OF THE THE WALL.

IT'S THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ALONG QUITE NICELY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE SPLASH PAD.

TO THE LEFT THERE, JUST ABOVE THE SPLASH PAD, YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE WALL THAT IS COMPLETED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THIS IS THE THE AMPHITHEATER WALL, THE MOSAIC WORK THAT'S DONE BY CYNTHIA FISHER, WHO JUST RECENTLY CAME DOWN AND FINISHED THIS.

SO SHE DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

AND THERE ARE SOME CLOSER PICTURES THAT MS. MAXINE CAN SHARE WITH YOU, BUT IT JUST TURNED OUT QUITE NICELY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

THE CITY, YOU WILL BE VERY PROUD OF THIS AMPHITHEATER WALL WITH THIS MOSAIC WORK DONE BY THIS PHENOMENAL ARTIST.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OKAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING TO ASK YOUR APPROVAL TO GET YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD.

MICHAEL PARKER, THE ARTIST, HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING ON THE CONCEPT OF DESIGN AND TO STAY IN IN TIME WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE ITSELF.

WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST AUTHORIZATION AND APPROVAL FOR HIM TO MOVE FORWARD.

I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO WE CAN JUST GIVE SOME CONTEXT AS TO THE ORIGIN OF THE WALL.

WHO'S PAYING FOR THE WALL AND THE SELECTION PROCESS OF THE INDIVIDUALS BEING DISPLAYED? ALSO, I HAD A QUESTION FROM A RESIDENT THAT'S LOOKING TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE AND HOW WILL THIS IMPROVE OUR CITY.

SO IF WE CAN START WITH THE ORIGIN, WHO'S PAYING AND THE SELECTION, AND IF ANYBODY WANT TO CHIME IN ON WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS.

CITY MANAGER, WOULD YOU LIKE THIS OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO DELEGATE TO WHERE? I THINK THAT GEORGE AND MAXINE CAN HANDLE THAT QUESTION.

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THE MONEY IS COMING FROM THE PUBLIC ART FUND, BUT BEYOND THAT, THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE GENESIS OF THE IDEA.

AND YEAH, AND I'LL TAKE A PORTION OF THAT, GEORGE.

BUT I REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION STARTED PERHAPS IN 2020.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO INCORPORATE, I THINK IT FIRST STARTED WITH A SCULPTURE FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING.

AND THEN WHEN WE HEARD ABOUT THE DESIGN THAT WAS HAPPENING AT TAMARAC VILLAGE, THE WALL ITSELF WAS ALWAYS PROPOSED TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS A BARRIER OR A BUFFER FROM THE EQUIPMENT FOR THE SPLASH PAD THAT WOULD BE PLACED BEHIND THE WALL.

AND SO ONCE WE GOT WORD THAT A WALL WAS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED, WE CAME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND DISCUSSED IT WITH THE BODY AND ASKED WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE ELABORATE AND INCLUDE MORE FIGURES THAN JUST ONE FIGURE.

MORE FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE DESIGN.

THE COMMISSION GRANTED AUTHORIZATION AND ACCESS TO GO BACK AND TO DO SOME OUTREACH, WHICH WE DID.

WE ALSO BROUGHT THE CONTRACT TO TO RETAIN THE ARTIST MICHAEL PARKER, WHICH IS ON TONIGHT.

WE BROUGHT THAT BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AS WELL, WHICH THE COMMISSION APPROVED.

I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT VALUE IS $100,000 FOR THE WALL, FOR THE PIECES THAT WOULD BE GOING ON THE WALL, AS MENTIONED BY THE CITY MANAGER, THE ARTISTS WOULD BE PAID THROUGH THE PUBLIC ART FUND, WHICH IS A CONTRIBUTION THAT'S GIVEN TO THE CITY, PAID FOR BY DEVELOPERS AS AS IT RELATES TO THE SELECTION. THEN WE DID SOME OUTREACH.

WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF NAMES THAT REPRESENTED ICONS OF SOCIAL JUSTICE, AND WE PRESENTED THAT TO THE CITY COMMISSION AS A NOMINATION FORM.

EACH OF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US A FIRST CHOICE AND A SECOND CHOICE, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY THAT EVERYONE'S FIRST AND SECOND CHOICE WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE WALL. AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME ABOUT WITH THE SIX FIGURES OR THE SIX PORTRAITS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED ON THE WALL.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS WERE ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WERE SEEKING ANSWERS TO ANSWERED, OR DO YOU HAVE FURTHER? NO, I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS VICE MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

TO FURTHER CLARIFY, I BELIEVE IT WAS MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON WHO RECOGNIZED THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC DID NOT HAVE ANY SORT OF ART DEDICATED TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

THE CITY OF CORAL SPRINGS HAS A BUST OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, CITY OF BOCA RATON HAS A BUS OF MARTIN LUTHER KING.

SO WE BOTH SAID WE SHOULD HAVE SOME ART THAT REFLECTS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED HERE.

AT LEAST I DO. I'LL LET MARLON SPEAK FOR HIMSELF.

SO I'M HAPPY WITH THE TURNOUT OF THE PROJECT FROM A HISTORICAL AND FACTUAL PERSPECTIVE.

HOWEVER, I THINK LYNDON JOHNSON ACCOMPLISHED MORE THAN JOHN F.

KENNEDY IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY GETTING LEGISLATION PASSED FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE.

THANKS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL PIECE.

GOOD JOB. GEORGE AND MAXINE, YOU ALWAYS DO A FABULOUS JOB AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR REACHING OUT TO ALL OF US, PULLING TEETH, MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAD OUR INPUT. I'M ALL FOR DIVERSITY.

DIVERSITY, AT LEAST FOR ME, MEANS BLACK, HISPANIC, WOMEN, VETERAN, THE WORKS RELIGION. THIS SPEAKS TO ALL OF THAT.

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR WHERE YOU COME FROM, YOUR EXPERIENCES IN LIFE, WHO YOU LOVE, IT IT DOES NOT MATTER.

WHAT MATTERS IS THAT WE LOVE EACH OTHER AND GET ALONG WITH EACH OTHER.

AND I THINK JUST LOOKING AT THIS ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THAT.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, GEORGE, FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TO THIS DETAIL.

AND THANK YOU, MAXINE, FOR MOVING THIS ALONG.

AND MADAM MAYOR OF CLARIFICATION, I'D LIKE TO SAY, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, I DON'T TAKE THE CREDIT FOR THIS.

I WILL GIVE ALL CREDIT AND KUDOS TO MICHAEL PARKER, THE ARTIST WHO ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER THE CONCEPTS THAT YOU SEE HERE.

TO HIS CREDIT, HE REALLY HEARD US.

AND I SAY US MET WITH HIM, MAXINE, THE CITY MANAGER, MS. KATHLEEN. AND OF COURSE, WHEN HE RECEIVED FROM EACH OF YOU YOUR CHOICES, HE THEN TOOK HIS EXPERTISE.

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AND HE'S THERE'S NOT MANY ARTISTS THAT DO THE TYPE OF MEMORIAL WALLS, IF YOU WILL, THAT HE DOES.

SO I DON'T TAKE THE CREDIT FOR IT.

I GIVE HIM THE CREDIT FOR REALLY EXECUTING IT TO THIS STAGE AND KNOWING THAT ONCE HE'S FULLY EXECUTED THE WALL, IT'S GOING TO BE ONE THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE VERY PLEASED WITH. WELL, I THINK MICHAEL IS PROBABLY LISTENING.

SO, MICHAEL, PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR NOT INCLUDING YOU IN THE CREDITS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL.

AND FOR EVERYBODY THAT WORKED ON THIS, I APPRECIATE YOU.

I THINK TAMARAC VILLAGE IS JUST GOING TO BE THE GEM OF TAMARAC, AND I CAN'T WAIT TO BRING MY CHILDREN THERE AND JUST HAVE SOME FUN.

MY SON AND MY DAUGHTER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

I GUESS THAT'S CONGRATULATIONS THEN TO COMMISSIONER BOLTON AS HE IS OBVIOUSLY TELLING US THAT HIS WIFE IS PREGNANT OR YOU'RE ADOPTING OR WHATNOT.

SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN CONGRATULATIONS.

IT'S YOUR FAULT, COMMISSIONER IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE, THEN YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO WAIT.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WAIT FOR YOUR WIFE.

THEN YOU'VE GOT A BIG OOPS THERE.

BUT ANYWAY.

OKAY. SO THANK YOU TO MICHAEL PARKER.

HE WAS VERY TENACIOUS.

THE FIRST MEETING WE HAD THERE.

HE PUT A LOT OF WORK AND ENERGY INTO IT.

YES. AS COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR POINTED OUT FACTUALLY LYNDON B.

JOHNSON IS THE ONE WHO REALLY SHOULD BE ON HERE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRST, WHO'S DONE THE MOST FOR R FOR VOTING RIGHTS AND FOR RIGHTS FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE ON THIS.

I WILL ALSO SAY, THOUGH, THE COMMISSION DID ASK FOR IT TO INCLUDE A LATINO LATINA.

MUSIC. THERE IS NO BUT THE OTHER RELIGIOUS ON HERE.

AND BEING THAT WE ARE GOVERNMENT, WE SHOULDN'T BE DEALING WITH RELIGION ANYWAY ON MATTERS, I THINK.

BUT I AM VERY HAPPY FOR HAVING JACKIE ROBINSON ON THERE.

AS EVERYBODY KNOWS MY FEELINGS ABOUT HIM AND BASEBALL AND MY MOM, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

BUT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE LIST WAS POPULATED THAT WAS GIVEN TO US WHERE WE WERE TOLD TO SELECT FROM THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAD ANY FEELINGS OF THERE WAS MAYBE OTHERS WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON HERE AS WELL.

IF NOT, THAT'S FINE.

I'M NOT PUSHING FOR A CHANGE.

I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEMSELVES HEARD THIS EVENING ABOUT THIS.

AND SO I THROW THAT OUT THERE.

WELL, PEOPLE ARE PONDERING THAT.

MY QUESTION IS TO GEORGE OR TO MAXINE OR TO CONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE VERY NICE, BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK THAT HAS JUST GONE UP ON OUR AMPHITHEATER AND DOWN ON OUR SPLASH PAD.

SHOULD WE BE PROTECTING IT FROM CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS? WHAT? I MEAN.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING PROTECTING THAT.

I JUST SEE LAYERS OF CONSTRUCTION DUST.

SO WHAT IS BEING DONE OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DONE? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAGE OF COMPLETION THIS AMPHITHEATER IS.

OH, MAYBE GEORGE, YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR THERE ABOUT COVERING IT UP AND PROTECTING THE ASSETS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. AND EVEN AS IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND EVEN IF THIS IS LIKE A SECOND CODE, GO AHEAD.

AND LIKEWISE, WE CAN ALSO DO THE SAME FOR THE SPLASH PAD.

YES. IT IS COMPLETED.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE TREATMENT COULD BASICALLY MAYBE BE PUTTING SOME TYPE OF A PLASTIC TARP OVER THE ENTIRE SURFACE SO THAT IT WOULD BE PROTECTED IN THAT REGARD.

YES, PLEASE. I WOULD.

IF THE CITY CAN PROTECT BOTH ASSETS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

I'M PRETTY SURE AFTER EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED, WE'LL HAVE A NICE CLEANING TO MAKE THE VIBRANCY COME THAT WE KNOW THESE TILES HAVE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, I WILL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL FOR CONSENSUS ON THIS MATTER.

SURE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS? YES. VICE MAYOR GELIN.

SORRY.

YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

YES. MAYOR GOMEZ.

YES. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

YES. CONSENSUS PASSED 5 TO 0.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BOTH. THANK YOU.

AND IF MICHAEL IS LISTENING, MR. PARKER, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

AND IF NOT, WE'LL MAKE SURE HE KNOWS THAT WE SAY THANK YOU PLEASE.

MOVING TO 10B SPRINKLERS AND SCHOOL HOURS.

THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

[10.b Sprinklers and school hours]

MR. VILLALOBOS.

THIS IS THE FLOOR YOURS.

SO WE HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TO HAVE A CUT OFF TIME FOR SPRINKLERS DURING SCHOOL HOURS AFTER SCHOOL IN THE MORNING, AFTERNOON.

MILLENNIUM. THERE IS A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES THERE AND THE KIDS ARE WALKING AND I NOTICED THAT AT 4:30 WHEN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL GETS OUT, MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL GETS OUT, THE SPRINKLERS WERE GOING OFF.

THEY WERE GOING THEY WERE HITTING THE SIDEWALKS AS WELL AS THE STREET.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS THAT STAY AFTER SCHOOL FOR ANY PARTICULAR REASON, PROGRAMS, ETC.

SO I LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS ON PUSHING THIS UNTIL 5:30, 6:00, WHEN WE KNOW FOR A FACT THERE'S NO MORE KIDS GETTING OUT OF SCHOOL.

I HAD FORWARDED SOME PICTURES OF A CHILD LITERALLY WAITING UNTIL THE SPRINKLERS STOPPED.

AND THEN HE RANS AND IS DODGING THE SPRINKLERS.

SO IT'S JUST TO PUSH THE HOUR THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNTIL 5:30, 6:00.

SEEING NO DISCUSSION ON THE MATTER.

CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

SURE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

YES. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. MAYOR GOMEZ.

YES. VICE MAYOR GELIN.

I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS.

[INAUDIBLE] WE'RE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF ROLL.

NO. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

YES. CONSENSUS PASSED 4 TO 1.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NOW MOVING TO TENNESSEE ORDINANCE ON BANNING VENDOR CONTRIBUTIONS.

THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

[10.c An ordinance on banning vendor contribution]

THE FLOOR IS YOURS, COMMISSIONER.

SO I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET CONSENSUS ON BANNING OUR TAMARAC VENDORS FROM CONTRIBUTING TO PACS KNOWN TO OR AFFILIATED WITH A CERTAIN COMMISSIONER ON THIS COMMISSION ON ANY AFFILIATES THEY MAY HAVE.

IT'S ONE THING TO BE ABLE TO GET A CONTRIBUTION TO ONE'S OWN CAMPAIGN, WHICH WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE EXPENDITURE.

BUT ONCE IT HITS A PAC, THAT EXPENDITURE IS NOT KNOWN AND THAT PAC CAN DO A LOT OF DAMAGE CONSIDERING THAT THEY HAVE UNLIMITED DONATIONS THEY CAN MAKE IF THIS BAN CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD.

I'D LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT ANY VENDOR THAT IS KNOWN TO CONTRIBUTE TO A PAC THAT THAT CONTRACT BE VOIDED OR LOOKED INTO.

I THINK IT'S WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT OUR VENDORS ARE NOT BEING USED AS TOOLS TO ATTACK EACH OTHER, EACH COLLEAGUE.

FOR FUTURE COMMISSIONS.

THIS COMMISSION AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT OUR VENDORS ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THE CONTRIBUTIONS OVER THE ONE DOLLARS LIMIT WHEN IT COMES TO PACS.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS OF THAT.

SO IT'S A TWO PART CONSENSUS IF WE CAN GET CONSENSUS TO BAN CONTRIBUTIONS.

AND THE SECOND PART WOULD BE IF THEY DO CONTRIBUTE AND IT'S KNOWN THAT THEY CONTRIBUTED THROUGH A PAC TO A PACK OF SOMEONE ON THIS COMMISSION, THEN THAT VENDOR GETS DINGED OR THEIR CONTRACT VOIDED.

IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGALITY IS, BUT I THINK VENDORS NEED TO NOT BE IN THE MIDDLE OF POLITICS.

SO I AM NOT SEEING ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER.

I HAVE MY LIGHT LIT.

WELL, YOU HAD IT WHEN I WAS STARING AT YOU.

SO NOW THAT I TURN MY HEAD, IF YOU TURN IT ON DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE EYES BEHIND MY HEAD.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, I NOTICED THAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS PLACED MY CAMPAIGN REPORT AND ALSO MY PAC INFORMATION IN THE BACKUP INFORMATION.

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SO OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS ABOUT ME.

AND IT IS ABOUT YOU, SIR.

THAT'S WHY I DID NOT BRING IT UP.

COMMISSIONER. HE'S REFERENCING THE DOCUMENTS IN THE BACK.

SO LET'S JUST TRY TO KEEP IT SPECIFIC TO WHAT WE SEE IN HERE VERSUS ADDING ANY KIND OF OTHER COMMENTARY PLEASE FOR BOTH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO AGAIN, THE BACKUP INFORMATION TALKS ABOUT MY PAC AND ALSO MY CAMPAIGN REPORT.

AND I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY THE COMMISSIONER USED ONLY MY CAMPAIGN REPORT AND MY FINANCES.

IT IS COMMENDABLE THAT THE COMMISSIONER IS SELF-FUNDING HIS REELECTION.

I LOOKED AT HIS REPORTS FROM 2018.

LET'S NOT GO THERE, PLEASE, MAYOR.

THIS THIS IS TALKING ABOUT.

GENERAL. SO YOU'RE TURNING? WE'LL HAVE TO. RECLAIMING MY TIME.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING. GO AHEAD.

PROCEED.

ME. SO I LOOKED AT THE COMMISSIONER'S CAMPAIGN REPORT FROM 2018, 2020 AND SO FORTH, AND IT IS ACTUALLY COMMENDABLE THAT THE COMMISSIONER IS SELF-FUNDING AND HAS HAD CONTRIBUTIONS FROM FAMILY. JUST TO CONFIRM, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

THESE ARE YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, [INAUDIBLE].

AT THIS POINT, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

BECAUSE HIS CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS ARE NOT THE TOPIC HERE.

CAMPAIGN, MADAM MAYOR.

CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS ARE THE TOPIC FOR EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION THAT HE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO ABIDE BY.

THIS EVERYONE WOULD HAVE TO ABIDE IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES, BUT GOING THROUGH HIS ITEMS ARE NOT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

YES, IT IS. NO, COMMISSIONER, THEY ARE NOT.

WE TALK. WE CAN TALK IN GENERALITIES.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING IN GENERALITIES AND NOT SPECIFIC.

CITY ATTORNEY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO END DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING CONSENSUS.

IT IS HIS ITEM. HE IS CAPABLE OF TABLING IT AND PULLING IT.

SO DOES. I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AGAIN TO END DISCUSSION AND MOVE FORWARD.

SO BASICALLY DOING A MOTION TO TABLE IT.

WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

ITEM. YOU, THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP, YOU'RE PULLING IT.

IT'S PULLED. THEREFORE, ITEM IS CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT. NOW MOVING TO ITEM 10B.

[10.d Request to repeal City Code Section 2-425(3) Fixed Expense Account]

THIS IS SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP.

IT'S A REQUEST TO REPEAL.

CITY CODE SECTION 2-4253 [INAUDIBLE] EXPENSE ACCOUNT AND ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE REPEALING THIS.

THE BACKUP IS IN HERE.

I CAN GO THROUGH THE DETAIL, BUT AS EVERYBODY IS AWARE, THIS $15,000 TRAVEL ORDINANCE WAS PUT IN.

IT BASICALLY HAD IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IT COMPLETELY SAID WE WILL DISREGARD OUR CHARTER.

OUR CHARTER MAKES IT CLEAR THAT EXPENSES ARE REIMBURSABLE WITH RECEIPTS.

AND THIS ORDINANCE WAS TO HAVE IT REIMBURSABLE WITHOUT RECEIPTS WITHIN 100 MILE RADIUS.

AND AS WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE CHARTER EVEN EARLIER TODAY, IT SAYS WE ARE NOT ABLE TO AMEND THE CHARTER BY ORDINANCE UNLESS IT IS SPECIFICALLY DELINEATED BY STATE STATUTE.

AND THIS DOESN'T DEAL WITH MOVING OUR ELECTION DATES OR.

THERE WAS ONE OTHER ITEM THAT AT THIS MOMENT I'M NOT REMEMBERING.

PARDON? QUALIFYING DATES.

SO AT THIS TIME I AM ASKING OUR COMMISSION TO REPEAL THIS ITEM, AND I'M ALSO PUTTING THIS COMMISSION ON NOTICE ON SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE THAT THEY WILL NOT BE SURPRISED ABOUT.

IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE, SO WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT AS AN ORDINANCE.

BUT ON JUNE 16TH, WHEN WE START OUR BUDGET MEETINGS, I WILL BE ASKING FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE $25,000 INCENTIVE INITIATIVE ACCOUNTS THAT WE'VE HAD TO BE REDUCED BACK TO.

SOMETHING MORE, AS IT USED TO BE, WAS 1500 DOLLARS, $3,000.

THAT ITEM CAN BE DISCUSSED AT THE AT THAT BUDGET MEETING.

BUT I'M JUST PUTTING EVERYBODY ON NOTICE.

I WANT TO HAVE THE 15, $25,000 INITIATIVE FUNDS ALSO REPEALED AND THE INDIVIDUAL PAGES THAT EACH OF US HAVE IN THE PROGRAM AS A BUDGET ITEM.

SO THOSE ARE JUST ITEMS FOR FOR MAKING EVERYBODY, WHEREAS WE'RE DISCUSSING MONEY AND I AM NOW OPENING THE FLOOR TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COMMENT ON THE 2-5253 REPEAL.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO YOUR LIGHT WAS LIT.

[02:55:03]

THANK YOU. LET'S JUST CONCERN OURSELVES WITH THIS FOR THE MOMENT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE OIG MAKES A SUGGESTION, I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A LOT OF CONVERSATION.

I THINK WE TAKE THEIR SUGGESTION, WE REPEAL IT AND BE DONE WITH IT.

THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. TO CONSENSUS TO REPEAL.

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR? YEAH I DON'T GIVE MUCH CREDENCE TO THE OIG REPORT.

I ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE OIG IN JANUARY OF 2020 ABOUT POTENTIAL FRAUD AND ABUSE IN TAMARAC REGARDING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE FORMER CITY ATTORNEY.

AND THEY DID NOTHING WITH THAT COMPLAINT.

AND IT TURNS OUT I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY.

CITY MANAGER, I'M SORRY.

MICHAEL [INAUDIBLE], WHO WAS LATER ARRESTED.

VICE MAYOR, THIS ITEM.

WHEN LOOKING AT THE OIG REPORT AND SINCE YOU DID REFERENCE IT, CAN YOU PULL IT UP, PLEASE, SO THAT THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE. IT'S IN THE BACKUP.

IT'S ALSO. IT'S NOT IN THE BACKUP.

YES, IT IS. THE OIG LETTER IS NOT IN THE BACKUP.

IT WAS. I KNOW I UPLOADED IT.

OIG LETTERS IN THE BACKUP.

CAN THE I.T.

PERSON PULL IT UP? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT HERE.

I KNOW. I UPLOADED IT SO.

AND QUITE HONESTLY, NEITHER HERE OR THERE.

THE ITEM IS FOR REPEAL OF 2-4 [INAUDIBLE] TRAVEL EXPENSES.

YOU REFERENCED THE OIG REPORT.

THAT'S FINE. I KNOW I UPLOADED IT, BUT.

THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU.

OKAY. SO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE.

CAN YOU ZOOM IN, PLEASE? ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS IT'S A SECOND SENTENCE.

THE OIG INVESTIGATION DID NOT REVEAL THAT ANY OF THE CITY'S EMPLOYEES OR COMMISSION MEMBERS ENGAGE IN MISCONDUCT OR ABUSE.

AND WE DID NOT SUBSTANTIATE THE ALLEGATIONS.

SO SOMEONE MUST HAVE MADE SOME KIND OF COMPLAINT ACCUSING THIS COMMISSION OF ABUSE OR FRAUD OR WHATEVER.

POTENTIAL FOR FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC, NEWLY ENACTED FIXED TRAVEL EXPENSE ACCOUNT.

THEY DID AN INVESTIGATION AND AS IT STATES THERE, THEY DID NOT SUBSTANTIATE THE ALLEGATIONS.

SO THIS, I BELIEVE, WAS PART OF THE FORMER CITY MANAGER'S ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT AND PUT A BAD NAME ON THE CITY COMMISSION AS HE WAS GOING THROUGH HIS OWN CRIMINAL.

ATTORNEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUMP IN HERE? THE ATTORNEY DOESN'T NEED TO INTERRUPT MY 5 MINUTES.

THE POINT THAT IS, WE DON'T KNOW WHO FILED THE COMPLAINT.

WE ONLY CAN SPECULATE.

AND I THINK THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE ALL BETTER SERVED IF WE STICK TO THE CONTENTS OF THE OIG REPORT, WHICH I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH YOU, VICE MAYOR, THAT THE OIG DID NOT FIND OR SUBSTANTIATE THE ALLEGATIONS OF WHOEVER FILED THE COMPLAINT.

AND THAT'S RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE.

ABSOLUTELY. NOW, LET'S JUST GO TO THE LAST PAGE, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER PLACKO MADE REFERENCE TO THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

IF YOU JUST GO, I THINK IT'S LIKE NINE PAGES LONG.

ALL RIGHT. CONCLUSION.

KEEP SCROLLING DOWN.

ALL RIGHT. SO I CAN'T FIND THE PART THAT I'M LOOKING FOR, BUT THEY USE THE WORD POTENTIAL.

RIGHT. PARDON ME.

IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE. ALL RIGHT.

SO WHATEVER THEY USE THE WORD POTENTIAL, RIGHT? SO CAN ANYONE STOP POTENTIAL? SO CITY ATTORNEY, DOES THE CITY MANAGER HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO COMMIT FRAUD? [INAUDIBLE].

I'VE BEEN ASKED IF ANYTHING, OF COURSE ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

CORRECT. LIKELIHOOD OF IT OCCURRING, DIFFERENT ISSUE.

[03:00:02]

BUT WHEN ASKED SIMILAR QUESTIONS.

OF COURSE. RIGHT.

SO, I MEAN, I'M A LEGAL GUN OWNER.

IF I DECIDE TO WALK INTO A STORE, DO I HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO COMMIT AN ARMED ROBBERY? I MEAN, THE WORD POTENTIAL, THIS REPORT IS REALLY ABOUT NOTHING.

IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO SLANDER THE NAME OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

I'M PRETTY DISAPPOINTED IN THE OIG.

I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR JOB, BUT THEY CLEARLY STATED THAT NO ONE ON THIS COMMISSION HAS ENGAGED IN ANY FRAUD.

IN FACT, NO ONE ON THIS COMMISSION ACCEPTED THE THE LOCAL TRAVEL EXPENSE.

AND IF YOU SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT, JIM.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS I HAVE IN THIS DOCUMENT RIGHT THERE WHERE IT SAYS, DUE TO PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE NEW ALLOWANCE, THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO REMOVE THE LOCAL TRAVEL ALLOWANCE FUNDING FROM THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021.

THAT'S NOT A FACT.

THAT'S NOT A FACT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

I DIDN'T NEED THE LOCAL TRAVEL ALLOWANCE BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC.

I WASN'T GOING ANYWHERE, SO THERE WAS NO NEED TO TAKE THE ALLOWANCE.

I DIDN'T CARE THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC AWARENESS.

THERE WAS. I'M OUT IN THE STREETS IN TAMARAC EVERY DAY.

NO ONE CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, HEY, WHAT'S UP WITH THIS ALLOWANCE? SO THIS IS ALL MADE UP STUFF.

AND WE KNOW FOR A FACT, BASED ON THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION, THAT THE FORMER CITY MANAGER USED THE MEDIA TO PUMP OUT A MESSAGE THAT HE WANTED TO PUMP OUT. SO THIS IS JUST ALL FRAUD.

BUT IF SOMEONE THINKS THAT IT LOOKS GOOD, IT LOOKS SEXY OR IT'S GREAT FOR CAMPAIGNING TO VOTE THIS DOWN, THEN YOU KNOW, I'LL SUPPORT THAT.

BUT SOMEONE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING CREDIT FOR BEING A CHAMPION OF SAVING TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR $75,000 WHEN THEY APPROVE A $4 MILLION EXPENSE FOR COLONY WEST.

COMMISSIONER GELIN [INAUDIBLE] THROUGH A NO BID CONTRACT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME.

SO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON YOUR LIGHT FOR A SECOND ROUND.

I DIDN'T GO THE FIRST ROUND.

MY APOLOGIES. I THOUGHT YOU DID.

THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU KNOW.

I RECALL THE MANAGER COMING TO MY OFFICE AND ASKING WHETHER OR NOT I WOULD OPT IN TO THIS LOCAL TRAVEL ALLOWANCE.

I ALSO REMEMBER HAVING TO DEFEND MYSELF, TELLING MY RESIDENTS THAT THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT HE CLAIMED THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD WAS NOT WAS NOT TRUE.

AND THE FACT IS THAT WHEN I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS NOT INTERESTED IN OPTING IN, IT SEEMED LIKE HE SAW A GHOST. AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS WAS THE ONLY ONE TO OPT INTO THIS.

THE ONLY ONE THIS PROVES GOES WITHOUT SAYING PEOPLE'S.

MAYOR. I WANT TO CAUTION YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE YOUR ALLEGATIONS.

YES, YOU ARE RIGHT.

I DID. SO THAT IS NOT AN ALLEGATION.

I DID SIGN UP.

BUT I'M GOING TO CAUTION YOU ON THE WAY YOU SAY IT, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT YOUR ARTICLE POINT OF ORDER.

I WILL. I'M JUST GOING TO I'M JUST.

HE'S GOT HIS 3 MINUTES AND 45 SECONDS TO FINISH.

YOU WILL KEEP IT. YOU WILL KEEP IT TO THE ITEM AT HAND, PLEASE.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH AND FINGER POINTING OR BRINGING UP OTHER THINGS OF THE PAST.

IT IS IRRELEVANT.

THE ONLY THING THAT IS RELEVANT RIGHT NOW IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WISH TO REPEAL THE ITEM OR NOT.

CITY ATTORNEY. YES, YOU WANT TO SPEAK? YES. I JUST YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE RULES.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FLUID.

WE'RE IN A MEETING, BUT COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS THE FLOOR.

HE'S BEEN RECOGNIZED, AND HE SHOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES.

AND THEN OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THEN RESPOND.

BUT INTERRUPTING EACH OTHER IS ONE CREATING A TERRIBLE RECORD FOR THE CLERK BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHO'S SPEAKING AT THE TIME OR WHO'S SPEAKING OVER WHAT.

SO I JUST CAUTION AND REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE RULES SAY THAT THE PERSON WHO HAS THE FLOOR IS ENTITLED TO SPEAK SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE

[03:05:02]

RULES. AND THEN EVERYONE ELSE WOULD HAVE HAS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AT THE END TO RESPOND.

YES, BUT AS A REMINDER, CITY ATTORNEY, THAT EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK SUBJECT TO THE RULES, CLARIFICATION OF THE RULES, THAT THERE'S NOT TO BE ANY DISPARAGING REMARKS, ANYTHING THAT IS BEING INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO PUT ANOTHER PERSON DOWN, WHETHER THEY'RE ON THE DAIS OR NOT.

SO ALL OF THE RULES, NOT JUST PART OF THE RULES.

SO CAN WE PLEASE PROCEED? COMMISSIONER BOLTON ACCORDINGLY.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION ATTORNEY.

IT IS NOT A DEROGATORY STATEMENT.

IT IS A STATEMENT OF FACT THAT IT IS IT WAS THE COMMISSIONER AND ONLY THE COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT THREE, ELVIN VILLALOBOS, THAT OPTED IN FOR THE TRAVEL POLICY.

THAT'S NOT A DEROGATORY COMMENT.

IT IS A STATEMENT OF FACT, IS IT NOT? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE ON MY TENURE.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS RESCINDED THAT OPT IN.

THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, ATTORNEY IF YOU SHOULD WALK INTO A BANK AND ROB THE BANK AND THEN.

THAT'S OUT OF LINE.

I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION, ATTORNEY, AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO DO SO.

IF YOU WALK INTO A BANK AND ROB THE BANK AND THEN RETURN THE MONEY, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT YOU ROB THE BANK.

THE THE OIG.

THE OIG IS TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL, BUT THERE'S ALSO A THING IN LAW THAT IS CALLED INTENT.

AND WHEN ONE SHOWS INTENT WITH THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS IT CARRIES A MUCH HEAVIER WEIGHT THAN POTENTIAL. WOULD YOU AGREE THAT INTENT IS HEAVIER THAN.

WE'RE GOING TO CIRCLE THIS BACK TO THE SUBJECT MATTER AT HAND.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SUBJECT.

RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT IS NOT I AM ASKING THIS TO THE ATTORNEY.

YOU'RE TALKING [INAUDIBLE] AND WE DON'T NEED TO GO THAT FAR.

THE REALITY IS. WE ARE TALKING RESPECTFULLY, I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR.

THEN GO BACK TO THE [INAUDIBLE] MADAM MAYOR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OIG REPORT.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE OIG TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL AND INTENT.

AND THERE IS A LOT TO SAY ABOUT INTENT AND POTENTIAL.

IF THEY BE.

LET'S NOT BE SO BROAD ABOUT IT. PLEASE.

WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO, FOCUS IT IN, PLEASE.

WE ARE FOCUSING, WE'RE FOCUSING MADAM MAYOR ON INTENT VERSUS POTENTIAL WHERE THE OIG REPORT IS CONCERNED.

THEY TALKED ABOUT THE INTENT OF A COMMISSIONER TO OPT IN TO THE TRAVEL POLICY.

THIS IS IN THE REPORT.

I READ IT THE BACK OF MY HANDS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. WE'RE ON.

WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT.

AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL POTENTIAL FOR FRAUD.

SO THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE COMMENTARY IS NOT DEROGATORY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INTENT.

TRAVEL POLICY AND THE POTENTIAL FOR FRAUD OR IN THE FUTURE.

THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY, AGAIN, INTENT AND SOMEBODY'S POTENTIAL.

MAKE NO MISTAKE.

YES, THE COMMISSIONER DID WITHDRAW HIS INTENT TO BE A PART OF THIS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID IT.

SO THE THE OIG HAS HAS MADE THE REPORT.

BUT IT I'M CURIOUS TO, IT BRINGS CURIOSITY THAT IT IS AFTER THE REPORT THAT THIS ITEM IS PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

IF THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL SOUNDBITE FOR SOMEONE, IF YOU FELT WHOEVER BROUGHT IT, BROUGHT IT FORWARD, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

BUT IF YOU FELT SO STRONGLY THAT THIS WAS SUCH A TERRIBLE ORDINANCE TO HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

THE FIRST THING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE WAS REPEAL IT WHEN WE HAD THE CHANCE AND NOT WAIT ON THE OIG TO COME OUT WITH A REPORT.

WE DID NOT HAVE TO WAIT ON THE REPORT TO COME OUT.

WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT.

SO ANY MEMBER OF THIS CITY COMMISSION COULD HAVE DONE IT AND DID NOT DO IT, BUT WAITED UNTIL NOW, BECAUSE NOW IS A SOUND BITE.

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AND LET US NOT FORGET, ONE OF THE FIRST ACTIONS OF THIS CITY COMMISSION WAS TO RAISE ITS OWN SALARY, INCLUDING YOURS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

CITY CLERK. DO YOU KNOW WHO VOTED IN FAVOR AND WHO VOTED AGAINST IT? YOU CAN LOOK THAT UP.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON, I DO RECALL YOU TELLING ME QUITE A FEW TIMES THE ITEMS THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE FORWARD, AND THIS WAS ONE OF THEM.

SO I DON'T THINK YOU'D SAYING THAT MICHAEL [INAUDIBLE] WAS THE ONE BEHIND IT WHEN YOU WERE THE ONE, IN FACT, BEHIND THAT POINT.

NO, NO. MY FIRST MEETING.

POINT OF ORDER. FIRST ATTORNEY.

RECOGNIZE YOU HAVE NOT BEEN RECOGNIZED.

CITY.

POINT OF ORDER MANY TIMES.

YOU HAVE NOT RECOGNIZED.

I'M STILL MY.

CITY ATTORNEY IS RECOGNIZED.

WE ARE GOING BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE ITEM THAT IS BEFORE YOU AND THE DISCUSSION IS VEERING TOWARD.

A TIT FOR TAT CONVERSATION BETWEEN TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE RULES.

AND AS A PARLIAMENTARIAN, I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT UNLESS THERE IS ADDITIONAL COMMENT THAT IS GERMANE TO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THAT YOU JUST DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE REPEALING THIS TRAVEL ALLOWANCE.

AND RIGHT.

I AM NOT GOING TO GET. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, BEFORE YOU PROCEED.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THE DOORS ALLOWED OPEN FOR ONE, THERE IS GOING TO BE EXPECTATION THAT OTHERS ARE GOING TO TRY TO PROTECT THEIR CHARACTER BECAUSE IT WASN'T PROTECTED BEFORE. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY TO COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY TO COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, JUST STATE YOUR OWN ITEMS ABOUT YOURSELF.

AND PUT THAT OUT THERE.

YOU'VE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

OF WHO VOTED FOR IT.

PUT THEM INTO THE FACTS.

STRAIGHTFORWARD. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.

I HAVE NO QUARREL WITH THAT.

AND COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS DOES HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO STATE THE FACTS AS HE UNDERSTANDS THEM.

BUT ENGAGING IN A QUESTION AND ANSWER BACK AND FORTH, IF I DID WHAT? CORRECT. BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, CITY ATTORNEY PARLIAMENTARIAN TO HAVE PEOPLE BEING ATTACKED FROM THE DAIS HERE AND LETTING THOSE COMMENTS BE OUT THAT ARE NOT SUBSTANTIATED BY SOME, IT BECOMES APPARENT TO PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ONLY ALLOWING SOME HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEECH AND NOT TO OTHERS.

AND THAT SPEECH, WHICH IS AGAINST OUR CODE.

SO THERE WILL BE THE HIGH ROAD WILL BE CONTINUE TO BE TAKEN.

AND COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, PLEASE PROCEED.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. IN MY FIRST MEETING, I SPECIFICALLY TOLD THIS COMMISSION THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER, THE PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY FOR PROPER GUIDANCE. I WAS TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THE CAR ALLOWANCE, THE TRAVEL BUDGET, AND TO REPLACE THIS SPECIFIC ITEM.

BECAUSE OF CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU SAY GETAWAY, IT WAS GOING TO BE REMOVED.

NOT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH [INAUDIBLE].

CORRECT. THANK YOU. PLEASE.

THAT'S WHAT OUR INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY ALTERNATE TOLD ME THAT'S WHAT THE CITY MANAGER TOLD ME, BASED ON CONSENSUS ON SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS ON THIS DAIS. SO WHEN I OPTED IN, I OPTED IN BASED ON THEIR GUIDANCE.

AFTER IT WAS SUCH A WRECK IN THIS COMMISSION IN THE FIRST FEW MONTHS AND AFTER HEARING FROM RESIDENTS CONSTANTLY LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I REALIZED THAT SOME MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION WERE A WRECK, AND THAT'S WHEN I CHANGED.

I PUT A STOP TO IT BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT THE CAR ALLOWANCE WAS NOT GOING TO BE REMOVED.

I KNEW AT THAT POINT THE TRAVEL BUDGET WAS NOT GOING TO BE REMOVED, AND I REQUESTED TO RETRACT THAT REQUEST.

DID YOU HAVE? DO YOU HAVE. WHO VOTED FOR THIS ITEM? DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE? NOT NO.

MAYOR, I AM ACTUALLY RESEARCHING IT RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. SO IF I BELIEVE IT WAS A FOUR.

SO IT WAS 4 TO 1 WITH GOMEZ VOTING NO.

SO THEREFORE, EVERYONE THAT VOTED YES HAD AN INTENT COMMISSIONER BOLTON, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WHEN IT COMES TO INTENT.

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AND EVERYBODY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.

TO REPEAL IT PRIOR TO THIS OIG REPORT.

SO THEREFORE, EVERYBODY EVERYONE THAT VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT ALSO.

THE TIMER THERE HASN'T BEEN ON WORKING ON PROPERLY.

SO EVERYONE HAD AN INTENT THAT VOTED ON IT.

NOW, IF YOU GUYS PULL THE SAME SHENANIGANS, THE SAME WAY THAT ONE COMMISSIONER WAITED UNTIL THE FURNITURE SITUATION HAPPENED TO THEN GET FURNITURE.

MADAM MAYOR. BUT ARE WE GOING TO KEEP IT TO THE TOPIC AT HAND? WELL, FURNITURE IS IN THE OIG REPORT, COMMISSIONER.

AND AS FAR AS SALARY GOES, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SOMEONE ON THIS COMMISSION PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEN VOTED AGAINST IT, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF IT.

VICE MAYOR. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO BASICALLY ON A FEW OF THESE ITEMS. WE DID PULL THE ITEM FROM BUDGETING, WHICH THEREFORE MADE IT WHERE IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE TO ANYBODY HAVE THE INTENT TO UTILIZE IT BECAUSE WE PULLED THE MONEY FROM THE BUDGET. THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE INTENT WAS FOR ANYBODY WHO MAY HAVE OPTED IN OR NOT OPTED IN.

THERE WAS NO ABILITY TO DO IT.

I'M BEING CALLED TO SAY, WHY DID I WAIT TILL NOW? CITY MANAGER IS QUITE AWARE THAT I'VE BEEN WANTING THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR MONTHS, BUT HAVING A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN THIS COMMISSION.

MY APOLOGIES, BUT I HAD A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN THIS COMMISSION TO MOVE IT FORWARD SOONER BEFORE BUDGET TIME.

AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CHARTER.

MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS COMMISSION MIGHT TRY TO CHANGE THE CHARTER IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS ITEM BE VIABLE.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE CHARTER DISCUSSION WAS DONE.

BUT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE REPORT CAME OUT.

I DECIDED THAT I WASN'T GOING TO WAIT ANYMORE, AND WHICH IS WHY I HAD THIS ITEM ON ON TODAY'S MEETING.

AND I REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE HAD A CITY ATTORNEY, THAT INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY, WHO BASICALLY TOLD US WE WERE ALLOWED TO CHANGE OUR CHARTER BY ORDINANCE AND THAT IT DIDN'T MATTER. AND SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVED THAT SECTION 4.0 FOR COMPENSATION EXPENSES OF THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION DIDN'T MATTER. IT DIDN'T MATTER THAT IT SAID THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ITEMIZED RECEIPTS.

WE WERE GIVEN LEGAL ADVICE THAT SAID IT DIDN'T.

SO WITH THAT LEGAL ADVICE THAT WE WERE PROVIDED AND FOR A WHILE HAVING THAT ATTORNEY REPRESENTING US, THERE WAS NO CONFIDENCE THEN EITHER THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO REPEAL THIS ITEM. SO THE SAFETY ITEM WAS THE BUDGET, AND SINCE THE BUDGET HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE FOR THAT YEAR AND THIS YEAR FOR 2022 GOING INTO 23, IT WASN'T IN THERE. IT WAS WHY I WAS BRINGING UP IN ANOTHER WEEK OR SO FOR THIS TO BE REPEALED, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE PUTTING IT INTO OUR 23-24 BUDGET IF I'M OFF ON MY FYIS.

AS I APOLOGIZE, I THINK EVERYBODY GETS THE POINT.

THE BUDGET THAT GOES INTO EFFECT IN OCTOBER.

SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS OF TO THE TIMING.

THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL THING.

THIS IS A MATTER OF TRYING TO GET OUR CITY BACK INTO DOING THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT SOME OF THESE EXPENSES AND THE MONIES THAT HAVE BEEN INCREASED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE MENTIONED ANY OF THIS.

I'VE BEEN MENTIONING THIS SINCE THEY ALL WENT INTO EFFECT.

THAT BEING SAID, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION CITY CLERK.

PLEASE SEE IF THERE'S CONSENSUS TO REPEAL 2-425.

I'M LOSING MY SIGHT HERE.

CITY ATTORNEY RECOGNIZED.

[INAUDIBLE] RECOGNIZED.

DO WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY? DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A FIVE MINUTE GO AROUND FIRST AND A SECOND MINUTE GO AROUND ON AT THE SECOND? DO WE HAVE THAT ABILITY? DO WE HAVE THAT RIGHT TO GET THAT? THIS IS A WORKSHOP.

THE RULES PROVIDE THAT EVERYONE HAS 5 MINUTES.

AND ONCE EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN, THEN EACH ONE, IF YOU SO DESIRE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 2 MINUTES. I SO DESIRE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 2 MINUTES.

HOLD ON.

WITH WITH THAT SAID.

YOU KNOW, THE IF THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE OR A MAJORITY I'M SORRY, DECIDES TO WHICH IS PROVIDED FOR IN YOUR

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RULES TO CALL THE QUESTION THAT TAKES PRECEDENCE.

THEN IF THERE IS A MAJORITY WHO CALL THE QUESTION, IT GETS IT MOVES TO A VOTE UNDER YOUR RULES.

AND I'VE CALLED THE QUESTION.

SO THEREFORE, IF I'VE CALLED THE QUESTION AND WE DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FOR IT, YOU CAN COME BACK FOR YOUR SECOND.

NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, MAYOR.

RESPECTFULLY, THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS IF THE COMMISSION ON A WHOLE WANTS TO CALL THE QUESTION, THEN IT CAN.

THE MAYOR HAS ESSENTIALLY MADE THE MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION.

THERE WOULD BE A SECOND THERE WOULD BE A VOTE ON THE CALL.

THE QUESTION IF A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION VOTES TO CALL THE QUESTION DEBATE WOULD CEASE AND IT WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO A VOTE.

AND I'VE CALLED THE QUESTION, IT'S NOT A MOTION, IT'S NOT A SECOND BECAUSE IT'S DISCUSSION.

I'VE CALLED THE QUESTION.

WE DO CONSENSUS OF WHETHER THE QUESTION IS CALLED, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS STATED, IF IT DOESN'T GET PASSED, THEN YOU CONTINUE DEBATE FOR YOUR SECOND ROUND FOR 2 MINUTES. I'VE CALLED THE QUESTION.

LET'S SEE IF THERE'S SUPPORT TO REPEAL.

SURE. MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS QUESTION REGARDING THE VOTE.

JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS CORRECT.

IT WAS 4 TO 1 WITH MAYOR GOMEZ DESCENDING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY CLERK AND I'LL CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR GELIN.

NO SO BOLTON CAN RESPOND.

IT'S JUST [INAUDIBLE] PEOPLE COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

IT'S NOT A MOTION.

IT'S CONSENSUS.

I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER.

NO, NO.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CONSENSUS ON THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON CAN SPEAK OR THEY'RE GOING TO REPEAL THIS? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE REPEALING THIS ITEM.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD TO CALL THE QUESTION.

THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY.

WHETHER WE'RE REPEALING THE ITEMS. WHETHER TO REPEAL OR NOT OR IF IT FAILS, THEN COMMISSIONER BOLTON WOULD HAVE TO REPEAL.

YES. MAYOR GOMEZ.

YES. AND THE COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

I'M IN FAVOR OF REPEALING, BUT I'M VOTING NO NOW, SO CAN HAVE MY 2 MINUTES.

I WANT TO POINT OUT CLARIFICATION WITH COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO. ARE YOU VOTING FOR THE REPEAL OR FOR ALLOWING COMMISSIONER BOLTON TO SPEAK? IS THE COMMISSIONER IS A COMMISSIONER RECOGNIZED MADAM MAYOR.

OH, MY GOD, KIDS.

NO, I'M AN ADULT AND I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION.

MADAM MAYOR RESPECTFULLY, I'M TRYING TO LISTEN TO ONE THING IN MY EAR BEFORE I CAN EVEN MAKE IT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AT THE SAME TIME.

THE GOOD COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT THREE.

WAS ASKING ME A QUESTION.

IS ASKING A QUESTION WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED.

I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR.

IS THE COMMISSIONER RECOGNIZED.

I CAN'T EVEN TELL HIM IF HE'S RECOGNIZED OR FORCED BECAUSE YOU'RE JUMPING IN BEFORE I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

SO GIVE. TAKE A BREATH, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS YOUR POINT OF CLARIFICATION WAS ANSWERED.

IT IS NOW BACK TO DISCUSSION.

YOU HAVE 2 MINUTES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAYOR.

YES, COMMISSIONER. WOULD IT HAVE TO BE SUBSTANTIAL TO THE ITEM OR IS IT JUST TO CONTINUE TO REPEAT ITSELF? THE POINT OF OUR RULES IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE ONE MINUTE IF WE GO BACK TO OUR RULES.

THAT ACTUALLY WAS ONE MINUTE FOR ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS IN THE DISCUSSION.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE VERY NARROWLY FOCUSED.

PRETEND WE'RE BACK IN A COURTROOM.

AND IF IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP IN THE FIRST YOU BY THE FIRST PERSON SPEAKING, YOU CAN'T BRING IT UP IN THE SECOND FOR CROSS-EXAMINATION.

BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE NOT IN COURT.

SO, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU HAVE YOUR 2 MINUTES TO KEEP IT FOCUSED ON THE ITEMS AT HAND.

AND LET'S PLEASE KEEP IT FOCUSED TO YOUR OPINION ABOUT THINGS FOR YOURSELF ONLY, NOT OTHERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD ON THIS ITEM AS IT CAME BEFORE US HAPPENED ON THE SUNSHINE.

SO IF THOSE IN THE CLOUD WANTS TO LISTEN TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THEY CAN.

ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT I TOLD THE CITY MANAGER TO REPEAL WERE WERE IN MY OFFICE, INCLUDING OUR $700 CAR ALLOWANCE THAT HAVE ASKED MANY TIMES TO BE REPEALED.

I'VE ASKED MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION TO REPEAL IT, AND I THINK THAT IF IT IS NOT A SOUNDBITE, THAT WE SHOULD ALSO BRING THAT BACK TO BE REPEALED.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUPPORT A REDUCTION IN OUR SALARY TO RESTART TOURISM HERE.

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COMMISSIONER,[INAUDIBLE] POLITICS TO WHERE IT WAS.

POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR.

THIS IS. RECLAIMING MY TIME.

NO. RECLAIMING YOUR TIME.

NO POINT OF ORDER.

CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU REMIND US AGAIN.

RELEVANT TO THE ITEM, MR. COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS FREE TO RAISE THESE ISSUES AND ASK THE MANAGER TO PLACE THEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

NOT AT THIS POINT. CORRECT.

[INAUDIBLE] IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THROUGH THIS ITEM.

YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE TIME IT NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED.

THE DISCUSSION. THE DISCUSSION IS ON THIS ITEM.

IF COMMISSIONER BOLTON WISHES TO DISCUSS THE REPEAL OF THE OTHER ITEMS, THEN HE NEEDS TO WORK WITH THE MANAGER TO GET THOSE ITEMS ON A FUTURE AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

AND NOT THROUGH THIS ITEM.

OR ON OR AT A COMMISSION WORKSHOP.

BUT THE ITEM HERE IS THE REPEAL OF THE 15,000 TRAVEL ALLOWANCE.

EXACTLY. WHICH IS IF A PERSON HAS ANYTHING THEY WISH TO BRING UP ON THE FUTURE, THEY NEED TO FOLLOW THE PROTOCOLS.

I'M RE-DIRECTING.

THANK YOU. THE POINT TAKEN.

I WILL I WILL END THIS AND PREFACE THIS BY SAYING IF A COMMISSIONER ON THIS DAIS WAS TOLD THAT ALL THOSE ITEMS WERE TO BE REPEALED AND THE 15,000 REPLACED, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE ALL OF THE ITEMS, INCLUDING THE CAR ALLOWANCE, DOES NOT ADD UP TO 15,000, OR MORE.

SECONDLY, IF THE COMMISSIONER WANTED THIS ITEM TO GO FORWARD AND NOT AND NOT THE LIST OF THE OTHER ITEMS AND OPTED IN TO THE TRAVEL ALLOWANCE BECAUSE HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE OTHER ITEMS WOULD HAVE BEEN REPEALED THEN ATTORNEY THIS FALLS UNDER WHAT WE CALL INCOMPETENCE AND SAID COMMISSIONER CAN BE RECALLED UNDER INCOMPETENCE GIVEN THE COMMENTARY TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OK.

CITY CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THIS IS TO REPEAL.

2-42536 EXPENSE ACCOUNT IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SURE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

MAYOR GOMEZ? YES. VICE MAYOR GELIN? YES. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

YES. COMMISSIONER PLACKO? YES. COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES. CONSENSUS PASS 5 TO 0.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU WON'T BE GETTING THAT. THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW MOVING TO OUR LAST ITEM.

SO I HOPE IT IS 10E DISCUSSION MOTION AND DIRECTION TO STAFF REGARDING A TRAVEL BUDGET.

[10.e Discussion, Motion, and Direction to Staff - Travel Budget]

THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

SO APPARENTLY COMMISSIONER ON THIS DAY HAS LEFT TO TRAVEL.

MIND YOU, WE HAVE A STATE LOBBYIST.

WE HAVE A FEDERAL LOBBYIST.

BUT YET TWO OF OUR COMMISSIONERS FIND TIME TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE, WASHINGTON, SUPPOSEDLY TO LOBBY OUR REPRESENTATIVES WHEN WE CAN HAVE ZOOM AND WE CAN HAVE VARIOUS WAYS OF COMMUNICATION, EMAIL, TEXTS.

WE HAVE ALL SOURCES.

$25,000 IS EXCESSIVE.

I DON'T GO OUTSIDE OF TAMARAC.

I DON'T NEED TO GO OUTSIDE OF TAMARAC BECAUSE MY RESIDENTS ARE IN TAMARAC.

I CAN'T DO NOTHING FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD.

I CAN'T DO NOTHING FOR NATIONALLY.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW EVEN ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS CAN TAP INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S TRAVEL EXPENSES LIKE THEY GO OVER THEIR OWN AND THEN THEY TAP INTO OTHERS ON THE RESERVE.

SO I WOULD LIKE THAT TOO TO BE REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET.

SO WHETHER IT'S NOW ON CONSENSUS OR WHETHER IT'S IN JUNE DURING BUDGET SEASON.

BUT THIS ITEM, UNLESS REQUIRED BY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES LIKE I'M SUPPOSED TO GO IN JUNE, THERE'S I'M NOT I CAN'T GET OUT OF IT.

I'M REQUIRED TO GO BECAUSE OF NEW ELECTED OFFICIALS.

OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T NEED TO GO ANYWHERE OUTSIDE OF TAMARAC.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO CONSENSUS, MAKE A MOTION.

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I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO THIS, CONSIDERING.

ARE WE REPEALING IT? DO WE WAIT FOR THE BUDGET? BUT 25,000 IS EXCESSIVE UNLESS AGAIN IT IS REQUIRED.

COMMISSION VILLALOBOS.

I BELIEVE THAT THE BUDGET LINE ITEM WAS MODIFIED AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION DURING OUR BUDGET MEETING WHEN WE CAN HAVE ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR US TO SHOW TRAVEL, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THAT INFORMATION BEFORE US AND MAKE A BETTER EDUCATED DECISION.

SO IF I MAY, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO GET CONSENSUS FROM THIS COMMISSION TONIGHT TO PUT THIS ON THAT, TO REPEAL THAT AT THAT MOMENT.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A REPEAL ITEM, I THINK.

OR REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA, FROM THE BUDGET.

I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION DURING BUDGET AND THROUGH BUDGET WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE CONSENSUS OR NOT THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO.

SO CONSENSUS TO AGREE THAT THIS IS EXCESSIVE? I WANT SOMETHING TONIGHT. WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, AS MUCH AS I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND VICE MAYOR.

NO, NO, GENTLEMEN, YOU WILL NOT HAVE A CROSS CONVERSATION.

I'M SORRY.

NO, I LET IT GO.

[INAUDIBLE]. WE ARE NOT HAVING CROSS CONVERSATION.

WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THIS CONVERSATION THIS WAY TONIGHT.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT AT THIS TIME, WE DO NOT HAVE IN FRONT OF US THE LINE ITEM BUDGET.

IT IS MY RECOLLECTION FROM LAST BUDGET IS THAT WHAT WE WOUND UP DOING BECAUSE IT WAS EXCESSIVE A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THAT, WE THEN HAD IT LINE ITEM FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL AND EACH COMMISSIONER OR MAYOR WAS SUPPOSED TO ONLY USE THAT BUDGET ITEM AND SELECT WHICH ITEMS IN WHICH THEY WERE TO GO TO.

ADMITTEDLY, WITH COVID, WE REALLY DIDN'T DO MUCH TRAVEL AND WE DID SOME DOWNSIZING ON THINGS AND WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO OR NOT.

AND I THINK THAT WE DON'T HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT, A COMPLETE PICTURE THAT EVERYONE WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION ACCORDINGLY.

SO AGAIN, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION WITH MORE DETAIL OUR BUDGET AND THROUGH OUR BUDGET MEETING ON JUNE 16TH, THE FOLLOWING MEETING.

IF COMING THROUGH THAT, THE JUNE 16 BUDGET, WE CAN GO INTO MORE LINE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? PLEASE.

THANK YOU. SOMETHING TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 10:53.

REMOVED. MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.