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THOSE WHO ARE WORKSHOP, IT IS CURRENTLY 10:38 APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S

[CALL TO ORDER]

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PATIENCE, AND IT IS MONDAY, JANUARY 10, 2022.

OH MY GOD.

HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYONE.

SO TO START THE NEW YEAR OFF, CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

GOOD MORNING.

HAPPY NEW YEAR! COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, VICE MAYOR GELIN.

GOOD MORNING.

MR. VILLALOBOS.

HELLO, EVERYONE AGAIN.

GOOD MORNING.

NOW IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE STAND AND VICE.

IF YOU JOIN US WILL LEAD US FROM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

ALL RIGHT NOW, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WHO ARE JOINING US BY TEAMS, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE KEEP YOURSELVES ON MUTE UNTIL YOU ARE CALL FOR IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE ARE RECORDING AND UNDERWAY.

SO IF YOU WOULD MS. KATHLEEN GUNN, OUR CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR COMMISSIONER.

[1. Opening Remarks]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

YOUR PARTICIPATION IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM YOU AND.

AND YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER'S PERSPECTIVE.

OUR MAIN GOAL TODAY IS TO IDENTIFY CONSENSUS ITEMS SO THAT THE STAFF CAN FOCUS OUR TIME, ENERGY AND RESOURCES IN THAT DIRECTION.

YOU WILL TALK ABOUT THE CITY WIDE INITIATIVES PRIORITIES, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE HAVE A PROGRAM TODAY IS ABOUT AND BEYOND TODAY AND BEYOND HERE.

IT'S A UNIQUE TIME IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC, POPULATION GREW BY 19 PERCENT BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020.

DEMOGRAPHICALLY, THE CITY HAS CHANGED FROM 49 PERCENT WHITE TO ABOUT 25 PERCENT BLACK AND 25 PERCENT HISPANIC, SO 33 PERCENT APPROXIMATELY FOR EACH WHITE, HISPANIC AND BLACK PERSON [INAUDIBLE] ALSO, THE PANDEMIC HAS BROUGHT SOME UNEXPECTED OPPORTUNITIES, AN INFLUX OF RESIDENTS FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND UP DEMAND FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION CAPITAL FROM INVESTORS ALL OVER THE WORLD.

MONEY IS CHEAP TO BORROW AND OUR OLDER OUR REALLY AND OLDER AT A TIME TO BE [INAUDIBLE] IS NOW.

THE DECISIONS WE NEED TODAY HAVE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS A 20 YEAR VIEW, AND IF WE DECIDE TO BOND FOR SOME OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE TIME DRIVER ON THOSE FUNDS ARE FOUR YEARS.

A WHILE BACK, COMMISSIONERS SAT IN HER CHAIR AND PLANNED FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE TO BE DEVELOPED IN A COMPLEX NEIGHBORHOOD FINDS ABOUT HOW ALL THOSE GOALS HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED.

SO NOW WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THE NEXT ERA OF TAMARAC.

TODAY'S CONVERSATION IS INTENDED TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE QUESTIONS LISTED ON THE SCREEN.

WHO ARE WE? WHO DO WE WANT TO BE? WHAT'S NEXT? ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE [INAUDIBLE] IN WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT TAMARAC THE POPULATION HAS GROWN TO BECOME MORE DIVERSIFIED AND GONE NOW, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T YET HAVE THE DATA.

I SUSPECT OUR MEDIAN INCOME HAS RISEN AS WELL.

TAMARAC TODAY IS A FAR CRY FROM THE COMMUNITY 10 BUILT ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.

THESE CHANGES REQUIRE CHANGES IN LEVELS OF SERVICE AND THE TYPES OF PROGRAMS YOU PROVIDE.

WHO DO WE WANT TO BE.

WE WANT TO MAINTAIN AT OUR LEVEL THE UNPARALLELED QUALITY OF LIFE THAT OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ENJOY.

THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE DO THAT? WHAT'S NEXT? WHAT DO WE INVEST OUR RESOURCES IN? WHAT DO WE COMMIT UPON? THIS IS AN EXCELLENT TIME FOR ALL OF US TO BE IN THE CITY TO MAKE THESE DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND BRING THE LEADERS OF THE CONVERSATION.

[INAUDIBLE] NEXT SLIDE.

[2. City Commission Priorities]

AND WHAT THIS SLIDE SHOW IS, WHAT THEIR EVIDENCE IS THAT IS IMPORTANT TO

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THEM.

WE DID A SURVEY LIKE YOU DO EVERY TWO YEARS, AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IS THAT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, POLICE VISIBILITY AND CRIME PREVENTION AND STREET LIGHTING ARE THE CORE ISSUES.

ISSUES ALSO CONTINUES TO BE AN ONGOING ISSUE.

[INAUDIBLE] AVAILABILITY OF WALKING AND BIKING TRAFFIC ANY HE? WELL, WITH WHAT I HEARD FROM THOSE OF YOU THAT DID THAT LAST WEEK.

AND SO THIS ON THIS SLIDE IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WE GATHERED AS A RESULT OF OUR CONVERSATIONS.

SO THE PRIORITY REVIEW INCLUDES QUALITY OF LIFE, BSL PROGRAMS, DEVELOPED AND DEVELOPING COMMUNITY APPEARANCE AND IMAGE EVENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TODAY ARE CONSENSUS FROM YOU ALL.

LORENZO IS GOING TO BE OUR GRACIOUS FACILITATOR, AND HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK YOU ALL TO LET US KNOW WHERE THERE ARE THREE OF YOU WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING.

AND THEN ALSO TO LET US KNOW IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO LET ME BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT HOW WE PROCEED, HOW WE CAN PRIORITIZE THE BEST FOR THE CITY OVERALL.

AND IN DOING SO, THE ESSENTIAL DRIVE WILL BUILD NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AROUND YOUR PRIORITIES ALONG WITH OUR OWN DEPARTMENT OR ANIMAL PLAN.

ONE THING I WANTED TO BE ON BEFORE WE EVEN START OUR CONVERSATION IS THAT WE ALL HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE OF TAMARAC PARK AND AS TRUSTED PUBLIC SERVANTS TO DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THE CITY THRIVES TODAY AND WELL INTO THE FUTURE.

THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING TIME TO BE IN THE CITY AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH ALL THESE STAFF AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND AT THIS POINT, I'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO LORENZO, WHO WILL? GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR MR. VICE MAYOR, GOOD TO THE COMMISSION.

LORENZO CALHOUN, HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, TO OUR CITY MANAGER, TO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

GOOD MORNING TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDING WELCOME.

THIS MORNING WE HAVE 90 MINUTES IS A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, SO WE WILL SAY VERY QUICKLY.

DEARLY BELOVED WE ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY TO JOIN TOGETHER YOUR VISION WITH THE VISION OF THIS COMMUNITY, OUR CITIZENS SO IN HOLY MATRIMONY TO MAKE WHAT WE CALL A STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO STRATEGIC PLAN IS FOUNDED ON A VISION AND IT CONTINUES LONG AFTER THE INITIAL GROUNDWORK IS SET.

YOU SHOULD APPLAUD YOURSELVES BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING IN ONE OF YOUR VISIONS THAT CAME TO FRUITION MANY YEARS AGO, BUT QUALITY LET GIVE YOU SOMETHING.

SO VENTURE THAT IS KATHLEEN GUNN MENTIONED A FEW OF YOU, IF NOT ALL OF YOU MET WITH THE KATHLEEN GUNN LAURA AND CAME UP WITH A LIST OF PRIORITIES, AND WE'RE GOING TO START RIGHT AT THE TOP WITH GOAL NUMBER ONE.

BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET ME LET IT OUT WITH SOME QUICK RELEASE OF WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU.

SO IN REGARDS TO EACH ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ITEM AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH AS MANY ITEMS AS POSSIBLE IN THESE 90 MINUTES.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE CONSENSUS AND WHERE WE DO HAVE CONSENSUS.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU FOR DIRECTION.

SO STAFF IS CLEAR WHERE WE ARE HEADED.

BASED ON YOUR CONSENSUS ON THE ITEMS WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE CONSENSUS, WE NEED CLARITY ON THAT AS WELL.

LACK OF CONSENSUS AND WHERE THERE'S A LACK OF CONSENSUS, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD IN DISCUSSING THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AT THE NEXT STRATEGIC WAY.

OK.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THAT BEING SAID, MY COLLEAGUES IN HERE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

SO ITEMS COME UP.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, HERE IS A GROUND RULE.

I KNOW THAT YOU CAN ADHERE TO THE STRAIGHT UP FOR THOSE GIVEN TO A STRAIGHT NO CHASER.

AND DON'T BE AFRAID ABOUT HURTING ANYONE'S NOSE IN THE WORLD.

CAN YOU DO THAT? YES.

THE SIMPLE AND YES, YES, YES.

I GOT A SMILE.

TAKE TWO SMILES AND I'LL TAKE COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

YES, THAT'S THE SMILE, I SAW A SMILE, SO I'LL TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

AND I THINK THAT THE VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS ARE SMILING VIRTUALLY.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S GET STARTED.

SO WHAT WE HEARD FROM YOU? UNDER GOAL NUMBER TAMARAC IS HOME UNDER QUALITY OF LIFE.

THE FIRST ITEM WAS STRENGTHENING ORDINANCES IN PARTICULAR TO NOISE.

LET'S START THERE.

AND DON'T BE SHY.

YOU CAN JUMP IN AND VIRTUALLY, I NEED SOME HELP.

VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN, IF YOU CAN LIGHT UP, I'M GOING TO KIND OF JUST KEEP SPINNING AROUND SO I CAN SEE WHEN YOU GUYS LIGHT UP AND WHEN YOU WANT TO SPEAK, BUT JUST TO KEEP SOME ORDER.

WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? DON'T BE SHY.

WE ONLY HAVE 90 MINUTES.

NOISE ORDINANCE.

NOISE ORDINANCE.

WELL IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO, HELL I'LL GO.

WE HAVE SOME ISSUES IN OUR CITY WHERE PEOPLE WE'RE NOT THE QUIET LITTLE CITY WE USED TO BE, YET PEOPLE STILL WANT OUR CITY TO BE QUIET AND SO OUR NOISE ORDINANCE, IT'S IN

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PLACE.

I BELIEVE WE STRENGTHENED IT A FEW YEARS AGO.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK IT GIVES OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR BSO THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT OR DO ANYTHING WITH IT TO HELP THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN PLACE.

SO IT'S GREAT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE PARTIES, BUT SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THEIR NEIGHBORS MIGHT BE DOING MIGHT BE SLEEPING.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK ALL DIFFERENT HOURS, AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL TURN THEIR NOISE OFF WHAT SOME PEOPLE DEEM AS NOISE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK IS NOT, BUT TO THE PERSON WHO'S COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NOISE, I'LL SHOW UP.

THE POLICE WILL SHOW UP AT THE DOOR.

THEY'LL TURN IT OFF FOR 10 MINUTES AND THEN THEY'LL TURN IT BACK ON.

THE POLICE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THERE ALL THE TIME AND TAKE CARE OF IT, AND THERE'S NO PENALTY OR CONSEQUENCE FOR THE HOMEOWNER.

OR MAYBE IT'S A CLUBHOUSE OR WHATEVER, HAVING THE NOISE BLARING SO LOUD THAT IT'S DISRUPTING OTHER PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE CAN'T KEEP SENDING US SO OUT.

SO FOR ME, THESE THINGS GO TOGETHER WITH BSO AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I KNOW EVERYBODY'S HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE.

WE NEED MORE OF BOTH.

WE NEED A 24 HOUR CODE.

THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE IT.

AND THIS WAY, BSO COULD BE RESPONDING TO THE THINGS THAT BSO NEEDS TO RESPOND TO.

CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN GO OUT THERE AND HAVE THEM MUSIC TURNED DOWN TO A MORE PALATABLE, TOLERABLE SOUND.

AND THEN THIS WAY, IF THEY HAVE TO GO BACK, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN THERE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PERSON OR THE HOUSE BRING THE NOISE DOWN.

THAT'S ON ONE OF OUR NOISE ISSUE PROBLEMS. THEN WE HAVE OUR PARTY HOUSE PROBLEMS THAT ARE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

ALSO WITH PARKING, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE.

IT'S ALL TOGETHER.

IT'S NOT A VACUUM.

SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST THING ON NOISE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, BSO FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT SOMETIMES GOES INTO OVERFLOW WITH PARKING ON THE STREET, WHICH ALL GOES TOGETHER.

SO.

AND THEN WE HAVE THAT TOPIC, BUT I KNOW THAT SOME OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, SO GO AHEAD.

SO WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING IS YOU WANT TO INCREASE THE PENALTIES.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE HAVE PENALTIES.

WHAT DO WE HAVE IN OUR NOISE ORDINANCES? AND WHAT DO WE DO TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT IF YOU'RE HAVING A PARTY GREAT, BUT BE MINDFUL OF YOUR NEIGHBORS AND REALIZE THAT IF YOUR WINDOWS ARE SHAKING, THEIRS ARE PROBABLY TOO ESPECIALLY KEEPING IN MIND.

SOUND TRAVELS A LOT.

IT TRAVELS OVER BODIES OF WATER.

THERE ARE TIMES ON NIGHT WE CAN HEAR THE TRAIN DOWN ON DIXIE.

WE HEAR THE AIRPLANES AT THE AIRPORT AND WE'RE IN MARLON ONE, TWO AND WEST.

YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE EXPECTED MORE CLOSER TO IT, BUT OUR RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING.

SEE THE WHEELS TURNING COMMISSIONER PLACKO ISD GIVING THEM THAT LOOK, YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK.

YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.

I'M SORRY.

I'M WAITING.

YOU'RE WAITING.

HOW ABOUT YOU? COMMISSIONER BOLTON? IT'S CONFLICTING BECAUSE WHILE I DO HEAR NOISE COMPLAINTS, FOR INSTANCE, MAINLAND SIX COMPLAINS ABOUT HIDDEN TRAILS AND THE POLICE HAS GONE OVER TO THE TRAILS QUITE A LOT TO CURB NOISE.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE H2A AND MAIN HIDDEN TRAILS REACHED OUT TO ME, AND SHE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY HER NEW HOME AND HAVE GET TOGETHERS WITH HER FRIENDS.

BUT PEOPLE IN MAINLAND SIX CONTINUOUSLY CALL THE POLICE ON THEM.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE GET TOGETHERS, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WANT TO ENJOY, YOU KNOW, PEACE OF MIND, SO TO SPEAK.

SO I THINK IT HAS TO BE A COMPROMISE.

IT CANNOT BE JUST SUCH A STRINGENT ORDINANCE WHERE, OK, WE'RE GOING TO FIND YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING A PARTY.

BUT BEYOND THAT, THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH FOURTH OF JULY AND DAYS LEADING UP OR NEW YEAR'S DAY WITH PEOPLE MAKING NOISE WITH ALL THE FIREWORKS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF.

SO THAT HAS TO BE STRENGTHENED AND MORE ROBUST.

BUT FOR THE OTHER PARTS, WE'RE JUST HAVING A PARTY AND THAT'S THE STUFF THAT IS CONCERNED.

NO, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFLICTED BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO ENJOY THEIR HOMES THAT THEY'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW, SUCH HIGH TAXES FOR.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEEDS TO ENJOY QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO FOR NOW, I'M GOING TO STAY IN THE MIDDLE AND SEE WHERE THE CONVERSATION GOES.

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THANK YOU, MR. PLACKO.

WELL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG.

DON'T WE HAVE AN 11 O'CLOCK NOISE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS AT 11:00, YOU NEED TO SHUT IT DOWN? OR AM I WRONG? WE DO HAVE A CLOCK.

THANK YOU, BUT THANK YOU, MAXINE CALLOWAY GOMEZ THAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER P.M.

TO SEVEN P.M., BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT.

THIS MEASURE.

SARA ALI.

I ACTUALLY MADE THE STATEMENT IN TERMS OF THE LEVEL OF NOISE THAT CAN IN FROM.

SO THE OFFICER HAS TO GO OUT THERE AND BE ABLE TO MEASURE THE DECIBEL LEVEL.

YES, SO THERE'S SOME MEASUREMENT THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS AND HAPPENING AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO COLLECT AN AFFIDAVIT IF A RESIDENT CAN ATTEST TO A CERTAIN NOISE LEVEL.

OK, SO FOR ARGUMENT'S SAKE, IT'S DETERMINED THAT IT'S OVER THAT.

THEN WHAT DO YOU ALL DO? DO YOU CITE THEM? DO YOU FIND THEM? WHAT DO YOU DO? I MUST BRING IT UP BECAUSE.

SO IT COULD ISSUE A VIOLATION OF THE CITATION, AND IT'S ONE OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAVE RECENTLY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE USE OF ALL THAT INFORMATION TO DO HOW PEOPLE.

YES.

ABSOLUTELY.

THE PROBLEM IS IN THE LAST 40 PERCENT OF OUR CURRENT PAST DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY MEMORIES THAT WILL LEAD US ALL TO SHUT DOWN THE PARTY OR OTHERWISE.

THE ADDITIONAL VIOLATION OR CESSATION OF THAT THEN COMES BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE AT THE EVENT INCLUDED.

SO THAT REALLY DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD AFTER THE FACT.

SO WELL, WE CAN INCREASE IT.

SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT INCREASES THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO IF YOU DON'T FEEL DETERMINED AND ONE OF US TALKING ABOUT SERVES AS ADMINISTRATOR SEEING BOLTON PARK OR SOME OTHER PLACES WHERE PEOPLE PRESENT, WE GIVE YOU A SENSE OF A FIFTEEN HUNDRED DOLLAR FINE OR SOMETHING AND THAT BELIEVE THAT PROPERTY OR SO THAT AMOUNT AND JUST JUST A COMPARISON, MOST RECENTLY WITH THE PARTY SITUATION IN WOODLANDS AND WITHOUT THE OF FIND, IT WAS $250.

AND CLEARLY THAT'S NOT A DETERRENT.

AND MAYBE THEY'RE REALLY COLLECTING FUNDS AVAILABLE $250 SOMETHING REALLY TO DETER ANYONE FROM STOPPING THIS TYPE OF CONDO.

AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING THAT TO ALLOW MORE LATITUDE FOR THE BOARD ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SO WE CAN GET A STIFFER.

BUT WE THINK THAT THAT IN AND OF ITSELF CAN BE A DETERRENT.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE SO-CALLED BUSH POLICIES, KERRY DECIMAL, BECAUSE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OF THE RACE AND IT'S USUALLY THE DISTANCE FROM THE HOUSE.

SO THAT TRUSTEE EASIER, MUCH EASIER FOR US WITH THAT OBJECTIVE GUNN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE PARTY HOUSE WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT CONCERNS ME AND WE NEED TO FIND SOME WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT A RESIDENT HAVING A PARTY? I MEAN, WE ALL DO THAT.

WE ALL HAVE PARTIES AND WE NEED TO BE MAYBE SENSITIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN MY COMMUNITY.

WE TEND TO LET OUR NEIGHBORS KNOW.

SO IF THERE'S CARS PARKED ON THE STREET, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

BUT MAYBE SOME COMMUNITIES AREN'T DOING THAT.

BUT WE HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO RESIDENTS HAVING NORMAL HOLIDAY PARTIES, NOT THE PARTY HOUSE.

AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE BALANCE THAT OUT, BUT WE NEED TO SEPARATE THE TWO IN SOME WAY.

MR. VICE MAYOR GELIN.

GOOD MORNING.

SO QUESTION FOR VSO.

HOW MANY NOISE COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAD IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, THE LAST SIX MONTHS, LAST MONTH? YES.

I HAVE.

YEAH, YOU WANT TO REPORT.

YOU WANT TO SAY NO APOLOGIES DO IT.

THIS IS JUST RIGHT THAT MULTIPLY IT BY SAYING, I DON'T HAVE THE ALL, BUT WE HAVE ONE OF THE LIMITS IN THE PAST YEAR YOU HAVE ASSETS.

A SUBSTANTIAL TWENTY TWENTY SIX HOURS PLACE WAS HERE TODAY WAS SUPPOSED TO GOVERNMENT UP TO NOVEMBER 30TH.

AND YOU DON'T GET ME, YOU DIDN'T GET THE ONE YET FOR THE OTHER NOISE COMPLAINTS IN THE CITY, YOU WERE WORKING ON THAT ONE.

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OK, YEAH.

SO I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS IN THE WOODLANDS THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT.

ECHO COMMISSIONER GELIN.

IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO HEAR YOU.

YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT FUZZY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO EITHER SET BACK TO YOUR MIC OR SIT CLOSER TO YOUR MIND, BUT YOU'RE A LITTLE FUZZY, SO WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE HEARING YOU.

YEAH, I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT? YEAH, I JUST I'M JUST SAYING THAT I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD WELL, I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT HAD ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS OUTSIDE OF THE ONE FROM THE WEAPON.

AND SO I DON'T SEE A NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE RIGHT NOW.

WHAT WE'VE HAD, WHAT 26 COMPLAINTS OF 50000 HOUSEHOLDS.

HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS? THE GENERAL QUESTION, I THINK COMMISSIONER VICE MAYOR GELIN IS ASKING A GENERAL QUESTION ON HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS IN THE CITY, AND WE'VE ONLY HAD 26 COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE DOCUMENTS TO THIS MEETING AT THIS TIME IN THE WOODLANDS OF 26 FOR THE NOISE HOUSE OR A COUPLE OF OTHERS.

BUT GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

SO AS A RESULT, I DON'T SEE ANY NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE.

OK.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

SO MY THING IS, YOU KNOW, I HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS BECAUSE I'M ON NEXT DOOR A LOT AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN ON NEXTDOOR THAT PUSHED ME OUT.

I THINK I'M GETTING AN ECHO FROM EVERYONE ON MUTE.

USUALLY IT COMES, YOU KNOW, THREE DAYS BEFORE IT COMES IN, THREE DAYS AFTER THE ANIMAL BREAK.

SO I THINK IT'S IT'S GOOD TO HAVE PARTIES TO ENJOY.

BUT I THINK PERHAPS THEY AFTER THE CUT OFF, I THINK GOES BEYOND THAT.

I THINK SOME RESIDENTS REALLY ARE FRUSTRATED.

CITY ONE IS NOT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT OR ALLOWING THE BIG BANG OR THE BIG CELEBRATION OR THE 4:00 A.M.

MUSIC GOING ON WHEN IT COMES TO NOISE.

OTHER THAN THAT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS RARELY, YOU KNOW, 360.

IT'S HAVING A BIG CELEBRATION OF THOSE DAYS OF THE YEAR, SO I DON'T SEE THAT AN ISSUE WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING.

THAT'S A COMMUNITY SITUATION.

YOU KNOW, FAMILIES ARE GROWING.

KIDS ARE GROWING.

THEY'RE NOT MOVING OUT OF THE CITY AND THEY'RE STAYING AT HOME, DAD AND ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.

HOW DO YOU SOLVE THAT? YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO GUNN, I BELIEVE THAT IT.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IT.

THE HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO GO UP.

SO IT'S REALLY RESIDENTS OFTEN SEEING ALONG WITH US TO SHARE THEIR, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT THIS TYPEKIT IS COSTING THINGS AND THEREFORE TAKE ACTION IF IT'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'S JUST A NORMAL DAY IN LIFE.

THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT.

MADAM MAYOR.

SO JUST TO BRING IT BACK AROUND.

IT'S NOT TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENJOY THEIR LIFE.

MANY PEOPLE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING, BUT IT'S AN ABILITY TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE PUSHING THE ENVELOPE AND MAKING IT UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS TO ENJOY THEIR QUALITY LIFE.

MY COLLEAGUES MAY NOT HAVE RECEIVED SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE QUITE A FEW COMPLAINTS AND IT'S USUALLY FROM THE SAME GENERAL VICINITY.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THE WOODLANDS AND HIDDEN TRAILS, IT'S SOME OTHER PLACES WITHIN THE CITY AND IT'S GOT TO BE BEEFED UP AND STRENGTHENED.

THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE TO HELP THOSE HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE UNFORTUNATE FEW WHO MAY THINK THAT INSTEAD OF KEEPING IT AT A 25 DECIBEL, WHICH IS NICE FOR EVERYBODY TO STILL HEAR THE MUSIC, THEY KEEP IT A 50 WHERE THEY HEAR AT THREE COMMUNITIES AWAY.

IT'S TO HELP.

USUALLY, RULES ARE FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY ARE BREAKING THEM, NOT THE ONES WHO ARE NOT BREAKING UP, AND TO TRY TO HELP OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OUR BIA.

SO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT.

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AND AGAIN, IF WE'RE HAVING CODE ENFORCEMENT DO IT, WE KIND OF NEED CODE ENFORCEMENT TO BE ABLE TO BE OUT THERE AT NIGHT TO HELP OUT ANYWAY.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM FOR STRENGTHENING THE ORDINANCE.

NOT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE ARE PARTIES IN THE WAY WE HAVE.

IT IS NOT GOOD.

THAT PART IS FINE.

IT'S FOR THOSE WHO WHO ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS TO MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE NOT GOOD FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

AND THEN AS FOR FIREWORKS, I AGREE I DON'T LIKE I LOVE FIREWORKS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT OUR STATE HAS DONE US ANY FAVORS BY MAKING IT WHERE FIREWORKS CAN NOW BE FOUR TIMES A YEAR BECAUSE THAT HAS GIVEN PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FOUR WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR AND THEY DO IT AT ALL TIMES.

IT'S A HOLIDAY FALLS ON A FRIDAY.

THEY THINK THEY SHOULD BE DOING IT ALL WEEKEND OR FOR TWO WEEKS, AND PEOPLE WITH PACEMAKERS AND NOT KNOW IT'S A LOT OF THEM PEOPLE WHO STILL NEED TO SLEEP AND THEY'RE DOING IT AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

PART OF THAT PROBLEM IS NOISE TRAVELS AS WELL, SO WE CAN HAVE THIS STRONG ORDINANCE ON THAT, WHICH WOULD BE NICE.

BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO WORK WITH OUR LEAGUE OF CITIES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAKING A MEETING WITH.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MEETING WITH MARY MARY LOU.

BUT I'VE SPOKEN TO KATHLEEN ABOUT THIS AND WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP LATER TODAY.

IF THERE'S ENOUGH SUPPORT OUT OF OUR COMMISSION, THEN IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE BEST, THAT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS AND WE DO A LOCAL BILL JUST LIKE SOUTHWEST RANCHES HAS DONE TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF FIREWORKS THAT GO OFF AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING BECAUSE YOU CAN THINK THAT IS HAPPENING AT ARBOR KEYS.

BUT THE REALITY IS IT'S HAPPENING ACROSS THE WAY IN NORTH LAUDERDALE.

SO IF NORTH LAUDERDALE HAS NOTHING TO DO TO PREVENT IT, THEN OUR RESIDENTS ARE STILL GOING TO SUFFER.

WELL, I DO GET CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE THAT SOME OF THEM DON'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE USUALLY THAT'S OPEN TO FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.

SO BUT YEAH, WE HAVE YEAH, THOSE COMMUNITIES TEND TO BE ONCE MORE PRONE.

THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE SAVE THE FACTORY AS THOSE RESIDENTS SEEING INTERRUPT.

I HAVE MY DISTRICT.

I DON'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.

AND SO I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO INTERJECT THAT AS A MIDWIFE.

SO I THINK WE STARTED WITH THAT EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT [INAUDIBLE] WE CAN HOLD SOME ENFORCEMENT.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING NOW AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED IS IT HAS TO BE A BALANCE BETWEEN A NORMAL PARTY SITUATION AND THEN SOMETHING THAT'S GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL.

BUT IF YOU GIVE THE TOOLS TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHEN THEY ARRIVED ON THE SCENE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AT THE TIME.

SO WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION IS TO DRAFT SOMETHING THAT ACCOMPLISHES BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IN THE BEST WE CAN AND WILL BRING THAT TO YOU ALL THROUGH YOUR REVIEW AND ASSESSMENT.

IS THERE A CONSENSUS OR SEE [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE MAYOR AND[INAUDIBLE] COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS TO HAVE STAFF DRAFT LANGUAGE, WHICH GIVES CODE ENFORCEMENT THE TEETH THEY NEED WHEN THEY GO OUT TO ADDRESS THOSE PARTIES.

THAT MAY BE MORE LIKE A BIRTHDAY PARTY OR GATHERING VERSUS JUST A TYPICAL RESIDENT ENJOYING THEIR HOME.

AND ALSO TO ADDRESS THE 4TH OF JULY FIREWORKS ISSUE.

I MEAN, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO THAT? AND IT'S IT'S.

I KNOW YOU HAVE CONSENSUS, BUT I'VE D.

OK, LET'S KNOW AND BUY SOME.

WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THE RECORD THE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I THINK YOU ONLY SAID CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THE RULES HAVE TO BE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND BSO.

SO WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE IT SEAMLESS IN THE PROCESS FOR YOU TO COME BACK TO US THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT? YEAH, UNDERSTANDING, WE'RE BALANCING OUT THE TWO DEFINITIONS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE.

OKAY.

OK.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE, THEN YOU COULD EVER USE IT IF YOU HAVE IN THE PAST.

CORRECT THAT'S THE TOTAL, THAT'S MORE THAN.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO.

EXCELLENT.

JUST JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT POINT, THOUGH, WE HAVE A PARKING ORDINANCE AND

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WE WE DON'T USE IT AND RESIDENTS ARE TRYING TO FORCE US TO USE IT.

AND WE NEVER USE IT.

AND SO WHY HAVE THESE ORDINANCES ON THE BOOKS THAT WE DON'T TYPICALLY OR WON'T EVER ENFORCE? THAT'S JUST A WASTE OF STAFF'S TIME AND DRAFTING ORDINANCES THAT WE JUST WANT TO HAVE IN OUR BACK POCKET.

YOU KNOW, SO.

THIS IS THIS ONE'S ONLY A NOISE AND THIS ONE'S ON PARKING OR WE HAVE PARKING, CAN WE COMBINE PARKING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OR THINK THEY KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND BASED ON A LITTLE BIT THAT I KNOW UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING TO DO, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CODE GOES WITH EVERYTHING.

OH, STAND ALONE, OK? LET'S TALK ABOUT PARKING.

WELL, PARKING WELL, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS TO TALK ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HANGOVER ISSUE IN THAT PARTY AT COMMISSIONER BOLTON JUST REFERENCE AND ASK THEM WHAT IS COMMON SENSE AND JUST MAKE IT.

SO I KNOW IT JUST SEEMS OF THE POPULATION THAT WE HAVE, BUT I KNOW YOU ALL HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO IF YOU TELL US WHAT SPECIFICALLY LIKE A SUICIDE, PEOPLE LOOK UP AND YOU CAN CALL [INAUDIBLE] .

I SAID THOSE VEHICLES ARE COMMONLY DESIGNATED AS EMERGENCY LEGISLATION TO SHORE UP BY SEVEN A WEEK AND THE SECOND TO.

I CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THAT.

YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IT RIGHT AWAY.

I THINK IT'S THAT THEY FIND THAT.

COULD YOU GUYS HEAR MAXINE, OK? OR THAT'S JUST OK? NO, WE'RE NOT HERE, IT WILL BE GREAT IF IT COULD BE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN THAT SECTION BOARD.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

MY.

THERE SHE IS, BEING HANDED A MIKE BY KATHLEEN GUNN GOING TO READ IT AGAIN AGAIN.

SECTION 26 OF THE PROVISION THAT REGULATES I'VE D.

IT'S VERY LIMITED.

AND IN FACT, IT WAS LAST AMENDED OR ADOPTED IN 1975, AND IT COULD BE SECTION EIGHT.

THERE SHALL BE NO PART IN THE EIGHT PORTIONS OF THE DEDICATED PUBLIC LIBRARY AREAS WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE CITY DURING THE HOURS AT EIGHT A.M.

AND SIX A.M.

EXCEPT THOSE VEHICLES CAN'T BE DESIGNATED AS EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

THIS [INAUDIBLE] SECTION D READS DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES ANYWHERE ON THIS BOULEVARD, LIKELY AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY ON THE MARKET.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, IN PART, IS THERE AN ISSUE OF PARKING? BASED ON THE ORDINANCE THAT MAXINE JUST READ? YOU KNOW, I CAN GO FIRST.

THANK YOU.

SO AGAIN, WHAT I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF FAMILIES.

IN TWO YEARS.

IF I DON'T EXTEND MY DRIVEWAY, I'M GOING TO PUT A CAR ON MY CUL DE SAC FOR MY DAUGHTER TO GO.

NOW THAT BECOMES A PROBLEM BECAUSE I LIVE IN A CUL DE SAC, OTHER NEIGHBORS DON'T.

SO THEY'RE HAVING KIDS, FAMILY GET TOGETHER.

THEY HAVE MORE VEHICLES AND [INAUDIBLE] IT BECOMES IRRELEVANT BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT THE REAL PROBLEM BECOMES BEFORE TWO A.M.

AND AFTER SIX A.M..

I NEVER UNDERSTOOD THAT.

OH, [INAUDIBLE] BUT IF YOU DRIVE IN MY COMMUNITY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A PARTY ON THE STREET ON MOST COMMUNITIES, EXCEPT MY 55.

SO HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? IT ALMOST BECOMES IMPOSSIBLE IF YOU ACT.

AND I KNOW JEFF HAS HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES, AND THEY DO WANT TO FILL IN A MASSIVE MR. TASK SPECIFIC INSTANCE THAT THEY ARE REFERRED TO, AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER LOCAL BUSINESSMAN.

WELL, NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE CAPTAIN GOES ON.

THIS IS BEFORE THE CAPTAIN GOT HERE FOR FOUR YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS.

I HAVE ACTUALLY HAD THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS OVER THE COURSE OF BEING ON THE COMMISSION WITH RESIDENTS REGARDING THIS.

FOR ALL COMMUNITIES, IT'S NOT JUST BEEN DISTRICT TWO IS THERE IN DISTRICT FOUR,

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DISTRICT ONE, FOR EXAMPLE.

YOU GOT.

I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS SPECIFIC FOR THEM, BUT MAYLANDS EIGHT IN DISTRICT TWO IS RIGHT ACROSS FOUR.

MAINLAND'S NINE, MAINLY EIGHT WANTS IT ENFORCED.

MAINLAND'S NINE DOES NOT.

THAT'S A PROBLEM.

COMMUNITIES ARE BEING TOLD GO BACK TO YOUR YOUR DECLARATION, YOU ENFORCE IT.

SOME PEOPLE ARE DOING THE TOLL.

SOME ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR COMMUNITIES INVOLVED.

BUT TODAY'S DAY AND AGE WHERE MANY HOMES ARE NOW FOR RENT OR THERE ARE STILL SOME VACANCIES OR MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN, THEY'RE NOT PARTICIPATING AND THEY CAN'T GET THE BUY-IN FROM THE COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO MAKE THE CHANGES.

SOME OF THEM STILL REQUIRE ALMOST ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CHANGE, 100 PERCENT CAPACITY FOR CHANGING IN THEIR DOCUMENTS.

SO THEY COME AND THEY TURN THEMSELVES TO THE CITY OF SEEING CITY.

PLEASE HELP, PLEASE HELP, PLEASE HELP.

AND THE CITY GOES, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T.

WE CAN'T.

OR NO DISRESPECT TO THE POLICE, BUT THE POLICE SAY WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO, WHICH IS TRUE, BUT IT CREATES A PROBLEM, AND THE TWO TO SIX IS A PROBLEM.

FOR NOW, THE FAMILIES THAT ARE WORKING WHEN THE PEOPLE CANNOT GET OUT OF THEIR OWN DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING BLOCKED BY OTHER CARS IN THE COMMUNITY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR.

IT'S DIFFICULT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MOVING TO A COMMUNITY AND YOUR DRIVEWAY IS NOT BIG.

YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMUNITY ONLY OR YOUR HOUSE ONLY HAS PARKING FOR TWO OR FOUR.

THEN YOU NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND REALIZE THAT THEN MAYBE YOU DO HAVE TO EXPAND YOUR DRIVEWAY BECAUSE YOU MOVED INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE HAPPIER HERE.

BUT IT'S.

THE RULES THAT YOU MOVED INTO.

YOU CAN'T EXPECT THE CITY TO COMPLETELY CHANGE ALL THE RULES BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN CHANGES.

THE OTHER THOUGHT OF IT IS AND WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO IS BRING THE COMMUNITY OUT AND LET THE COMMUNITY HAVE THE CONVERSATION AT CITY HALL SO WE CAN HEAR IT BECAUSE I SAID I SAT WITH PROBABLY ABOUT 60 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM AND YOU COULDN'T GET CONSENSUS.

IT WAS STILL LIKE.

WHAT WAS IT TASTE GREAT, LESS FILLING.

YOU KNOW, OVER UNDER ON YOUR TOILET PAPER ROLL LIKE YOU COULD NOT GET CONSENSUS.

AND IT PUTS THE PROBLEM ON US, AND IT ALSO MAKES PEOPLE VERY UNHAPPY.

THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE WHEN WE ARE HAVING SO MANY MORE PEOPLE MOVE IN AND HAVING OUR CAPACITY OF OUR ROADWAY WON'T.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

OUR ROADS ARE OUR ROADS.

BUT IF MORE CARS ARE COMING IN, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP IT.

AND I THINK IF WE WAIT AND PUSH IT ON TO ANOTHER TIME, I THINK IT WILL CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS IN THE CITY AND THEN MAYBE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE DON'T ENFORCE.

OUR RULES OR THE FACT THAT WE DO ENFORCE RULES DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS, BUT I THINK IT'S TOO HARD OF A CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH US ALONE, I THINK THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE SERIOUSLY INVOLVED IN DISCUSSION AND I KNOW WHEN I'VE GONE TO ASSOCIATIONS, THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING.

I BROUGHT IT UP TO THEM.

THEY'VE ASKED WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND I SAY YOU, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT AT CITY HALL WHEN WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT, OR MAYBE WE JUST HAVE IT AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

MAYBE WE HAVE DISTRICTS ONE TWO, THREE FOUR AND WE HAVE IT IN EACH OF THEM IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITIES.

OBVIOUSLY, WE KEEP SAYING WHEN THINGS ARE GOING TO BE HEALTHIER.

SO THAT'S STILL OUR OTHER ISSUE.

BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON IT.

THAT'S ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT IS IS THERE FEEDBACK FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONER MEMBERS REGARDING A COMPROMISE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND COME OUT TO A COMMUNITY EVENT BEFORE WE DO THAT? JUST A QUESTION.

IS THERE SUCH A THING OF AN EXPANSION OF A DRIVEWAY EXPANSION INITIATIVE? WHAT'S THAT LAST WORD? IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A DRIVEWAY EXPANSION INITIATIVE, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO AS A COMMUNITY TO ENFORCE IT OR DO IT FOR OR FORCE COMMUNITIES TO HAVE RESIDENTS EXPANDED DRIVE? IF I EVER UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, ARE YOU ASKING WHAT YOU SAY INITIATIVE SHOULD BE MODIFYING THE PROCESS TO MAKE IT MORE STREAMLINED AND EASIER TO STAND IN YOUR DRIVEWAY? THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP.

YES.

I THINK.

THAT'S AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT, ACTUALLY.

THEN.

YOU MIGHT FIND THAT THEY FIND IT A BIT INTIMIDATING.

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SO THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS CAN'T BE INFORMATION ALL THE SUBTLE NOW AND IT CAN BE INITIATIVE ALSO ARGUING THAT A WIDE VARIETY OF APPLICATIONS FOLLOW FROM HANDS OFF WITH THE ASSOCIATION AND OF FORCED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO CODIFYING HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CAN HAVE A DRUG.

SO THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS YOU CAN DO IN INCREASING BODIES ACTUALLY CONTRACT WITH BE ASSOCIATED WITH.

SO A LOT YOU DO.

BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY WITH SOME OF THESE ALTERNATIVES.

AND LET'S START WITH THE OTHER SOMETHING THAT.

YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE SPEED WITH THE TEMPERATURE IN THE.

[INAUDIBLE] BUT CERNECH MARLON COMMISSIONER IN 2020, WE DID DRAFT LEGISLATION TO REPEAL THIS PROVISION BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION.

IT WAS AT BOARD DIRECTION AT THE TIME.

IT WAS A VERY GUNN SWAGIT BOLTON AND SO WERE ASKED TO BRING IT BACK AT A HIGHWAY.

WE BE ABLE TO HAVE A PUBLIC ANALOGY AND ANTICIPATED PROBLEMS WITH THE DRAFT LEGISLATION.

LOOK AT THIS AND HOW THEY HANDLED IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOOD WITH A WHOLE DIDN'T STOP AT ESSENTIALLY THE INTERCHANGE.

[INAUDIBLE] AND SO WE WANT TO GIVE BACK SOME CONSIDERATION.

AND I THINK WE DID THAT WITH DRAFTED 2013 LEGISLATION, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT AVAILABLE SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

AND YOU LOOKED AT OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND WHAT WE SAW THAT WAS COMMON WAS IN THE VEHICLE THAT WAS PARKED ON THE RIGHT.

WE INITIATED SAFETY GOALS FROM COUNCILMAN AND THAT WOULD BE COMMON.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE MOVED IT ON.

BUT WE DID HAVE SOME LEGISLATION AND DIRECTIVE IN 22.

YES.

VICE MAYOR.

YEAH, I JUST PUT A COMMENT IN THE CHAT, IF YOU COULD READ IT, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THIS ARTICLE THAT I'M HEARING THERE AN ISSUE IN THE PARK.

RIGHT.

IT DISAPPEARED AS SOON AS I STARTED READING.

SO THE MIGHT READ THE COMMENT IN THE CHAT.

THERE'S AN ISSUE.

THERE WAS AN ISSUE OF THE PARKING AND IT'S BECAUSE OF TAMARAC CODE.

WHEN DEVELOPERS BUILD NEW HOMES, THEY DO NOT BUILD ENOUGH PARKING FOR EACH HOME.

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO PENALIZE PEOPLE WHEN TAMARAC TAMARAC IS AT FAULT FOR DESIGN AND BUILDING COMMUNITIES THAT DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING.

MAXINE, WHAT IS THE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT WAS IT IN THE PAST? I BROUGHT THIS UP AS STRATEGIC PLANNING IN THE PAST, WHERE WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CODE TO ALLOW FOR MORE PARKING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S FROM VICE MAYOR GELIN.

[INAUDIBLE] IT'S ABOUT 2.5 PARKING SPACES CURRENTLY MS. OR STATE DEPARTMENT, AND OF COURSE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THERE'S A SKATEBOARD PARK IN THE PARK SECTION OF THE CODE THAT SEEKS TO ACCOMMODATE ALL TYPES OF MADE THAT THIS FAR BEHIND.

SO IT'S KIND OF UPDATED.

IT SHOULD HELP WITH THAT.

IT'S BASED ON.

PRIVATE PARTIES, PRIVATE.

SO DOES THAT FINISH YOUR YOUR QUESTION? YOUR HANDS STILL RAISED? YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION, I JUST I DON'T AGREE WITH PENALIZING PEOPLE.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AS I WALK, RUN OR RIDE MY BIKE IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND EVEN IN MY OWN COMMUNITY, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH PARKING SPACE.

SO WE SHOULD NOT BE PENALIZING PEOPLE WHEN THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK.

AND WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY IN SOUTH FLORIDA WHERE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS NOT ADEQUATE.

SO MOST HOMES ARE GOING TO HAVE TWO OR THREE AND EVEN FOUR PARKS.

SO THIS I'VE D AND I THINK WHAT THE HIGH STANDARDS ARE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES IN SOME RESPECTS BECAUSE THE ONE WHO TALKED ABOUT EXISTING HOMES THAT DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING AND THEN ALSO IN CONSTRUCTION.

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AND YOU KIND OF NAILED IT ON THE HEAD.

ALL THE TAXATION HERE IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE MOVING DOWN THEIR THROATS, GO TO THOSE HOUSES AND MAINTENANCE WORK TENDS TO BE, I DON'T THINK CAN WORK FOR YOU TO THIS SUMMER.

SO IT IS A LITTLE OF A CONDITION TO HAVE A COMMUNITY WIDE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

YOU CAN DO THAT FOR SURE.

WE ONLY BRING IT BACK TODAY BECAUSE THE DIRECTION OF HOUSING, SO WE HOPE IT WAS OVER SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN GET TOGETHER.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION THAT EXISTS AT THESE PARTY HOUSES, PARKING IS ANOTHER WAY OF GETTING OUT ENFORCEMENT AND THEN IT'S GONE.

SO WE HAVE LIFE CONTINUING TO HAPPEN, PEOPLE CONTINUING TO PARK OVERNIGHT BECAUSE THEY NEED TO.

AND SO IF THERE IS AN APPETITE TO HAVE MORE PATIENCE WITH THIS, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.

AND IT MIGHT BE A VERY WORTHWHILE PROFESSION THAT COMMUNITY LIFE OR WE CAN ALSO DO THAT WITHOUT SEEING.

SO YOU MENTIONED FOR YOUR REVIEW TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SEE.

BUT WE KNOW THAT IN THE INTERIM OF THESE TWO YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING PLACE FOR THE BIGGEST FACILITIES.

SO IT'S REALLY AGAIN TRYING TO BALANCE WHAT MAKES GOOD SENSE AND TIMELINESS AND BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING ON A RAFT OF THINGS HAPPENED WITH ALSO QUESTION.

I OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR THE COMMUNITY PARKING, NOT NECESSARILY DEALING WITH THE PARTY HOUSES, PARTY HOUSES, SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT THERE NEEDS TO BE ASSISTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY TO PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE USING THEIR HOMES AT 2:00 OR 3:00 IN THE MORNING FOR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE DISRUPTIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AND PROFIT, WHATEVER IS GOING ON WITH THOSE PARTY HOUSES.

BUT I THINK THAT THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE IN THE DISCUSSION.

WHAT OTHER? UP AVENUES ARE AVAILABLE, RIGHT? BETWEEN A BOMB OR BOMB, THAT RIGHT BETWEEN THE EXTREME OF NO ENFORCEMENT OR ENFORCEMENT.

ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS AVAILABLE? SOME OF US HERE GREW UP IN NEW YORK, WHERE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S PARKING ON THE ALTERNATE SIDES OF THE STREET.

RIGHT? YOU DO IT ON THIS DAY OR THAT DAY.

NOT SAYING THAT THAT WOULD NECESSARILY WORK FOR OUR WHILE WINDING ROADS, BUT.

ARE THERE PLACES WHERE WE CAN FIGURE OUT PARKING LOCATIONS TO HELP PEOPLE, CERTAIN THINGS, CERTAIN THINGS COULD BE DONE LIKE INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING YES OR NO? A BRAINSTORMING OF AN IDEA OF WHAT CAN HELP COMMUNITIES? I THINK WHAT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP IS THEM THE APPLICATION PROCESS, THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES AND PEOPLE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO KNOW HOW TO DRIVE [INAUDIBLE] I REALLY WANT TO MOVE IN MY VEHICLE TO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE STUFF WE CAN'T EVEN TOUCH BECAUSE THE DRIVER COMMUNITY, SO CAN CODE ENFORCEMENT, CAN GO IN THERE AND TAKE THE CAR OUT FOR AN ORDINANCE IF IT'S AT A PRIVATE COMMUNITY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME [INAUDIBLE] I THINK YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF ENFORCEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT HAVE SAID YES, YOU COULD PUT IN THE CODE THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN FOUR CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE LEADING TO? BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITIES? IT WAS REALLY HARD TO HEAR YOU.

SO JUST TRYING TO PICK BETWEEN YOUR WORDS THAT WE HEARD.

YOU WANT TO TYPE IT IN THE CHAT? I'M GIVING IT A SHOT.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, YOU KNOW, OR EVEN DURING THE PROCESS OF SIGNING ON THE BUYING INTO OR, WE ARE TOLD, CAN ONLY HAVE TWO OR THREE VEHICLES, WHATEVER IT IS, IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE VEHICLES, IT WILL BE TOWED.

I THINK IF PEOPLE ARE IN, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND NOW THEY'RE DETERMINING WHETHER THEY'RE GOING INTO OR NOT.

THE THING THAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WHEN THEY BUY THEIR HOME, THEY SHOULD BE TOWED, TOLD THAT THEY ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VEHICLES OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOWED.

IS THAT RIGHT? OK WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THE PROBLEM IS NOT ALL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS OR CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATIONS, MORE CONDOMINIUMS HAVE IT THAN HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS DON'T HAVE THAT POLICY.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE APPROVAL POLICY.

PEOPLE JUST BUY AND SELL.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND AGREE TO THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY ARE THEORETICALLY AGREEING TO WHEN THEY BUY THEIR HOME WITH THE ASSOCIATION.

THERE'S NO UNDERSTOOD CONTRACT, SO THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT OR YOU HAVE PLACES LIKE PARADISE STATES THAT DON'T HAVE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.

SO.

OR YOU HAVE ASSOCIATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE THAT SAY THEY MAY SAY YOU ONLY CAN PARK TWO CARS IN YOUR DRIVEWAY, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY WE WILL TOW YOU.

AND IF IT DOESN'T SAY WE WILL TOW YOU, THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITY TO GET THAT APPROVAL FOR THAT CHANGE IN THEIR DOCUMENTS, WHICH HAS BEEN PART OF THE PROBLEM, THEY CAN'T GET THAT APPROVAL.

SO I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF HELPING THOSE THAT NEED TO HELP, WHICH IS EVERYONE.

BUT A MATTER OF HELPING THOSE WHO NEED TO HELP, RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT THE CITY

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IS, ALL OF THE CEO OF COMMISSIONER PLACKO OR COMMISSIONER BOLTON WANT TO BE HEARD ON PARKING.

I DON'T WANT TO DICTATE TO PEOPLE HOW MANY CARS THEY CAN HAVE.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIVING IN A NEW WORLD NOW.

MORE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE STAYING HOME.

YOU HAVE PARENTS WITH A CAR EACH.

YOU MAY HAVE A COUPLE OF KIDS LIVING HOME.

THEY HAVE CARS.

IT'S JUST IT'S A NEW WAY OF LIFE NOW.

AND HOW CAN YOU TELL SOMEONE YOU'VE BOUGHT YOUR HOUSE? BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO TOW YOUR CAR BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE TOO MANY CARS? I JUST I'M NOT AT ALL IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON, WELL, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

OK, SO WE HAD TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SAYING THEY'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF DICTATING TO HOMEOWNERS HOW MANY CARS THEY CAN HAVE IN THEIR DRIVEWAY IN TERMS OF VICE MAYOR GELIN AND COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? I THINK WE SHOULD JUST LEAVE THIS HELP THE COMMUNITY AND THE REST IS GUNN COMMISSIONER PLACKO THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO INTERPRET IT.

YOU AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER PLACKO SAID THE CORRECT AND JUST HELP THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED THE HELP OR ASKING THE COURT TO HELP ENFORCE THE RULES FOR THE ORDINANCE.

VICE MAYOR GELIN ASKS FOR ONE SECOND, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN KATHLEEN.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS TO EXPLAIN WHAT KIND OF HELP IS HE THINKING THAT THE CITY CAN DO FOR? YES, THIS IS KIND OF AN ISSUE THAT I KNOW THE STAFF HAS TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE THE HOA HAVE THEIR OWN RULES AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ENFORCE THEIR RULES.

BUT IT'S REALLY FUNNY.

I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO COME IN AND FORCE THEM TO DO SO.

I THINK THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS THAT WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE CITY'S BOX THAT WE MOVE IN AND BE IT AND PUT AS MUCH RESPONSIBILITY ON THE HOA TO ENFORCE THEIR OWN RULES SO THAT WE'RE NOT BEING FORCED INTO A SITUATION WE REALLY CAN'T DO MUCH ABOUT ANYWAY.

SO JEFF, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR JUST GIVE SOME FRAMEWORK, THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, SO WE CAN KIND OF GET THAT OUT THERE AND TRY TO MOVE FORWARD.

OK? WE ALL REALIZE THIS IS AN UNWINNABLE SITUATION IS SEEN THROUGH THE YEARS AND WORKING WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT OVER THIS ISSUE OF ANALYZE THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

IT'S DIFFICULT, SO TO SPEAK, TO MANY THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.

WE REALIZE THAT THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS IS TO EMPOWER THAT OUT.

YOU KNOW, SOME COMMUNITIES, BUT WE CAN HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON STREETS, UNDERSTAND IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

KEEP IN MIND, FOR THE RECORD, WE DO ENFORCE BLOCK ROADS AS EMERGENCY SITUATION.

WE DO [INAUDIBLE] SO WE NEED FURTHER DIRECTION ON THIS ISSUE.

AND I EXACTLY.

BUT A LOT OF THESE BOYS ARE TRYING TO LOOK FOR WHO BASICALLY PRESENT THEMSELVES.

EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE, IN THAT CASE, THE LIABILITY OF THE CITY AND GIVE YOU YOUR BEST REVIEWS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

GIVE SOME INFORMATION ON HOW TO BREAK CELLS INTO A PROMISING PLACE TO GO.

YEAH, I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION YOU WERE ASKING.

I THINK YOU ASKED FOR A SECOND WHEN I WAS SHARING THAT FROM COMMISSIONER PLACKO AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

THEY WERE SUGGESTING THAT WE DO NOT IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT PENALIZES.

I THINK YOU SAID THE SAME THING.

RESIDENTS WHO HAVE MULTIPLE CARS IN THEIR DRIVEWAY DON'T WANT TO TELL PEOPLE HOW MANY CARS THEY CAN HAVE ON HOME.

YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

I'M LINE WITH THAT.

WE HAVE TO DO IS BRING BACK THAT PART OF MORTGAGES THAT WE HAD DONE BEFORE YOU GUYS TO SEE.

TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO DIRECT US TO GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT YOU YOU ANYTHING, YOU CAN DO THAT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, KNOW THAT IT IS LIKE DESERT.

IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PENALIZING PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THEIR OWN HOMES IF THEY'RE IN THEIR CARS, UNLESS OTHERWISE MS.

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WANT US TO BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE THAT CHANGES THAT.

AND ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THE COMMISSION HAS JUST SPOKEN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, SO BRINGING BACK AN ORDINANCE TO THEN HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT IS GOING TO BE CONTENTIOUS, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO SAY, I DON'T WANT THEIR RESIDENTS, WE'RE GOING TO SAY, I WANT IT.

IF WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO A CONSENSUS IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING, I SAY AT THIS TIME YOU HAVE CONSENSUS TO NOT MOVE FORWARD AND TO GO A STEP FURTHER.

I WOULD SAY JUST REPEAL THE ORDINANCE, NOT TAKE IT OFF THE BOOKS.

IT'S NOT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE IT.

WHY KEEP IT? I AGREE WITH THE FIRST PART, I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT SINCE SENTENCE ON THE SECOND PART OF TELLING THE AUDIENCE VICE GREG GELIN AND COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, COULD YOU HEAR ISD? I AGREED TO TAKE IT OFF THE BOOKS.

WE HAVE TO THEN SAY, TAKE IT OFF THE BOOKS.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO.

WE TAKE HIM OFF THE BOOKS, PARKING PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING BETWEEN TWO AND SIX.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TAKING OFF THE BOOKS IS THAT HE CURRENTLY SAYS, YEAH, WE'RE NOT ENFORCING IT.

OK.

WE HAVEN'T FOR YEARS, SO TAKE IT OFF SPECIFICALLY TO THE TWO TO SIX, IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH.

SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE COMMISSION MEMBERS NOW SAYING IT'S A FOUR.

TAKE IT OFF THE BOOKS.

REPEAL IT.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING FORWARD, THANK YOU.

CODE ENFORCEMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

YES, EXACTLY.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY 11:34.

I WONDER IF WE SHOULD RELOOK AT OUR THAT AND SAMPLE SOME THINGS SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THE LIST BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

WE ONLY HAVE A WE HAVE A THANK YOU FOR COMING IN TO TALK ABOUT THIS INITIATIVE.

EXCELLENT.

WE HAVE TO GET MARK MARLON HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT FINANCIAL SERVICES.

SO ARE YOU OVER TO YOU GUYS? COMMISSIONER DO YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE TIME GOING THROUGH THESE PRIORITY ITEMS AND HEALTH SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH TO A WHOLE OF SIX GOALS? WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA? BECAUSE THE AGENDA THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING THIS PIECE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH ACTIVITY.

BUT I THINK THE ISSUE IS THE SAME ISSUE.

WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING.

YOU HEAR SOMEBODY'S OPINION CLEARLY SPEAK AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE GOES OVER AND AND WANTING SOMEBODY OPINION TO CHANGE.

I THINK IF WE JUST STICK TO YES OR NO AND MOVE ON WITHOUT TRYING TO CONVINCE EACH OTHER, THAT'S PERFECT.

THESE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE UP HERE, YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED CONSENSUS FROM, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE UP HERE.

IF US GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS WILL ONLY DELAY THINGS AND WE NEED TO GET TO OTHER THINGS, YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS THEN MAYBE BRING ABOUT US AT ANOTHER MEETING.

WHAT THE ITEMS WERE THAT WE NEED TO FILTER THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE INSTEAD OF TAKING THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF WHAT WE CAN DO THAT IS JUST JUST JUST RUN THROUGH THEM.

SO SO THAT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY.

SO RUN WITH EACH ITEM WITHOUT ASKING FOR A CONSENSUS OR HAS ANY SENSE.

I MEAN, IF THERE'S A RIGHT LIKE MADAM MAYOR, JUST KIND OF.

OK, SO WE COULD DO THAT AND SAY SOMETHING LIKE CODE ENFORCEMENT.

BUT THAT'S A PRETTY BROAD TOPIC THAT HAS A LOT OF DETAIL.

WE NEED TO SET THAT ONE ASIDE AND COME BACK ON THIS.

I HAVE A BURNING ISSUE THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR CREDIBILITY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT IS BIG AND REQUIRES A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

SO WE CAN DO THAT OR MOVE ALONG I HEAR TWO WITH MOVE IT ALONG.

YEAH, OK.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO SKIP CODE ENFORCEMENT.

YEAH.

[INAUDIBLE] SO WHAT I CAN SAY TO THAT IS IN DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS, THERE IS A CONSENSUS RELATED TO PEOPLE FROM AND DEVELOPING THE PROJECT THAT ARE OUT THERE TO HAVE A PARK THAT'S COMPARABLE TO SOME OF OUR WESTSIDE PARKS.

SO IN ORDER TO DO SO, WE NEED TO GET FUNDING TO DO THAT.

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THERE IS AN RIGHT TO SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS ABOUT PEOPLE ON PARKING.

TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE, VISIT I'VE D BUT THAT WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE.

[INAUDIBLE] PARK IS ONE OF THE FIRST PARKS THAT YOU WILL WANT TO PUT SOME FUNDING FOR.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GET CONSENSUS ON.

SO THAT SAID, THAT THEY HAVE CONSENT TO HAVE CONSENSUS.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT ELSE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM IS AND I'M ALL FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE UP THERE FOR SHAKER VILLAGE AND FOR [INAUDIBLE].

THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS WHEN WE DO THIS IS WE'RE ASKED ABOUT MONEY AND WE AGREE ON TIME ONE, TWO AND THREE IN THE BEGINNING.

BUT THEN WE GET TO THE END OF THE LIST AND THEN WE HAVE ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT COST AND I NEVER KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, YOU ALL OF THEM, IF THEY'RE ON THE LIST OR NOT.

OR DO WE NOW HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LIST AND SAY WE PRIORITIZE THEM? SO WHILE I'M ALL FOR THE NEW TWO PARKS, IF WE SAY YES, WHEN, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO THE REST OF THE STUFF THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS LIST HERE? WELL, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK AT LENGTH ABOUT THE CALHOUN PRESENT PLAN LATER ON IN THE DAY.

BUT IF YOU KNOW THE DESIGN FEASIBILITY STUDIES INDICATED THERE WERE SEVERAL PARTS THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A CONSENSUS THAT THESE ARE THE TOP TWO WITH SINGLE MOM IS GOING TO COST ABOUT 10 MILLION DOLLARS WITH IT RIGHT NOW.

SO WE ASK WHAT QUESTIONS WE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY TO VERIFY.

WHAT IS THE BASELINE? THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE.

AND THEN SHAKER VILLAGE, IN ORDER TO DO ANYTHING, WE FIRST HAVE TO A FIRECRACKER.

SO WE NEED TO BUY THAT AND WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE TO BUY IT.

SO THAT'S A PRECURSOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE IN [INAUDIBLE].

SO THIS AFTERNOON, WHILE WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS WE HAVE CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVEN'T COMMUNITY PROMISES MADE, INCLUDING BUFFER WALLS.

SHAKER VILLAGE DOWN THERE FOR WHILE THEY GO ON.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO PAY FOR ALL OF THAT THIS AFTERNOON.

BUT WE DO NEED A PRIORITIZATION OF THOSE TO WITHIN THE EXCITING ABILITIES THAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY WANT, WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN THE SITE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

SO WE KNOW THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND EVERYTHING WILL OPEN THAT FURTHER ON WITH DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS ISN'T JUST A DISCUSSION TODAY FOR US TO GET WAS PEOPLE MORE SUPPORT AS WE HEARD AND SAY YES.

AND IF SHOULD PLACKO DEVICE HASN'T SAID ANYTHING YET? OK.

[INAUDIBLE] I THINK HE SAID HE WASN'T SO SURE HOW HE FELT ABOUT SABLE PALM BECAUSE IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE AND HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELS AROUND IT.

BUT HE WAS FOR SHAKER VILLAGE.

WAS THAT CORRECT? YES.

BUT I'M ADDING THAT WE ARE ALREADY EXPANDING THAT APART FROM THE INSIDE, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO MUCH IN FAVOR OF ACCOMMODATING BUT SHAKER VILLAGE.

DID YOU HEAR THAT? I HEARD SHAKER VILLAGE.

YES.

WELL, BECAUSE WE WERE WE'RE INCREASING [INAUDIBLE] AND THE EAST SIDE.

WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY THERE.

HE WASN'T SO CERTAIN ABOUT THE PARK THAT CENTRAL PARK SABLE PUMP AS WHAT HIS COMMENTS WERE.

SEEING MR. VILLALOBOS DO YOU PULL IN ON YOUR PHONE AND USE YOUR COMPUTER SO YOU CAN WATCH ON YOUR COMPUTER BY CALLING IN FROM YOUR PHONE? I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU BETTER.

YES, I DO THAT.

AND ONE MORE THING TO ADD.

WHY DO THAT TRANSITION IS, IS IT GOING TO BE A PUBLIC PARK OR A PRIVATE PARK FOR SABLE PUMP? SO COMMISSIONER PLACKO [INAUDIBLE] SHAKER VILLAGE.

WHY HASN'T THAT PASSIVE BUILDING BEEN CONDEMNED? WHY HAVE SHAKER VILLAGE NOT BEEN CONDEMEND? HALF THE BUILDING IS FALLING DOWN? WHY HASN'T IT BEEN CONDEMNED? YOU REFERRED TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AS THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO BE OFF TO FIND THE WALLS OF THE WALLS ARE ACCEPTABLE, AND THE ENGINEER CAME OUT ALSO THE FIRST STEP.

SO NOW THE QUESTION OF VENUE IS AN UGLY BUILDING TO TAKE DOWN.

BUT IT STARTS WITH THE WALLS THAT THEY'RE HAVING A SOUND ENGINEER.

IT'S JUST IT'S SUCH AN EYESORE ON A MAIN DRAG THERE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND

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WHY WE CAN'T GET IT TAKEN DOWN.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME AT ALL.

I MEAN, CAN WE TAKE THE PROPERTY, EMINENT DOMAIN OR SOMETHING? BUT WHEN IT'S CAPITAL IS NOW JOINING ISD GELIN? I HAVE MADAM MAYOR GELIN.

I PUT MY COMMENTS IN THE CHAT THAT I WENT TO A COMMUNITY AND WRITERS CAN APPRECIATE BOLTON AND SHAKER VILLAGE IN THE PAST.

AND THERE ARE THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES THAT WE HAVE MORE FAMILIES MOVING INTO THE CITY AND NEED MORE PARKS AND FACILITIES.

THE WAY TO KEEP KIDS OUT OF TROUBLE IS TO KEEP THEM OCCUPIED AND GOOD COMMUNITY PROGRESS.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

CAN I ASK GEORGE A QUESTION I DIDN'T THINK? FROM WHAT COMMISSIONER PLACKO JUST ASKED YOU ABOUT NOT TAKING IT DOWN? AND I HEARD YOU SAY THE WALLS WERE STRUCTURALLY SOUND.

BUT IF THERE HOW STRUCTURALLY SOUND, IF THEY HAVE TO BE FORCED UP BY A TWO, BY FOUR OR WHATEVER THE HELL THAT POLE IS AND MAKING IT STAND UP, SO IT'S NOT REALLY STRUCTURALLY SOUND? ISN'T IT DANGEROUS? SO I MEAN, IT IS AN EYESORE.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE ALL BEEN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING OVER THERE.

BUT IN THE INTERIM, IF THOSE WALLS ARE NOT STANDING UP ON THEIR OWN, THEN THEY'RE NOT AS STRUCTURALLY SOUND AS THEY MAY BE A SOLID WALL, BUT THEY'D BE JUST AS SOLID LAYING DOWN, THEN STANDING UP AND NOT LOOKING AS MAYBE AWFUL.

NO, I AGREE.

MAYBE A PROBLEMS IN BUILDING BLOCK, BUT YOU RE DOING HERE AND THEN THAT WAS PUT ON HOLD BY OUT OF TOUCH.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HERE.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

OKAY, THAT'S NOT WORKING.

IT DIDN'T HELP.

COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

YES, I WANTED TO, AND MY QUESTION WAS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARK.

AND I BELIEVE THE THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY HAS TO BE PUBLIC.

AND IF I COULD, JUST ONE LAST THING ON THE SABLE PALM AND MAYBE VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS MAY NOT KNOW THAT THIS COMMUNITY, THE PARK WAS SOMETHING FOR SABLE PALM HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSION AS PART OF THE PROGRAM IN THE SALES PITCH FOR THIS COMMUNITY SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

CORRECT? OK.

SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD WE DO IT, IT'S WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? AND WE KIND OF PROMISED THEM BEFORE COVID, WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING IT SOONER THAN LATER.

SUBJECT TO THEIR THOUGHTS AND PLANS AND ALL THIS STUFF.

AND AGAIN, EVERYTHING GETS PUSHED BACK BY THE COVID WORLD.

BUT SO THAT'S WHERE THIS ONE COMES FROM.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS AT THE MIAMI.

I'M IN FAVOR AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE EASY.

I REALLY DON'T THINK YOU PUT IT DOWN FOR THE LAST TIME.

I VICE CHAIR GELIN DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? NO, THANK YOU.

SO, KATHLEEN GUNN, WERE YOU HERE TODAY ON THESE TWO ITEMS? IS CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY? CORRECT.

I THINK WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON AS HE HAS, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD YES FROM COMMISSIONER GELIN, VICE CHAIR GELIN.

I'M SORRY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING FORWARD ALSO.

PROGRAMING FOR DIVERSE POPULATIONS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW OR CAN WE PUT ON HOLD? I THINK IT'S TOO BROAD A TOPIC, BUT JUST KNOW THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE CENSUS AND THE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC, WE'LL CONTINUALLY REVIEW THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT TRANSIT AND TRANSPORTATION? IT'S A LITTLE HARD STUDIES.

I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING, THOUGH.

THAT'S IT.

THAT'S A LARGE ONE.

OK, I'LL HOLD ON.

ACTUALLY HAVE A QUICK UPDATE THAT I THINK IS USEFUL.

JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE'VE MADE THIS A PRIORITY THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY MASTER PLAN, AND WE EXPECT IT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE FUNDED BY SURTAX.

AND IF IT'S CURRENTLY ONLY ABOUT FIVE HOURS THAT WE SPENT $100 MILLION OR SO ON THIS YEAR, WE ARE TO GET CONSULTANTS ON.

SO WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT.

IT'S SUCH A LARGE ITEM BEING A SUBTLE DISABILITY.

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WHAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH VSL [INAUDIBLE] ONE WORD, COVID, COVID.

NOT HAPPENING.

MOVE ON.

[INAUDIBLE] WE HAD OUR SURVEY CAME OUT AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT NEEDED SOME

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ATTENTION, [INAUDIBLE] IN OUR PLANNING AND BUDGETING LAST YEAR WE WENT OVER WHAT IT COST FOR [INAUDIBLE] AND WHAT WE HAVE.

AND JUST SORT OF LIKE TO SHOW THE AVERAGE RATE.

SMALLER SISTER, IT HAPPENS FOUR THOUSAND TWENTY FOUR NATIONWIDE OR 4.3 OVER THE CREATE.

THIS WONDERFUL UNITED STRENGTH IS 127.

SO WE ARE BELOW.

THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING YOU WANT.

VERY SIMPLE.

YOU JUST HAVE NO HARD EVIDENCE AND IT'S 160000.

POTENTIALLY IF YOU GET THE SENSE THAT THIS 1.6 MILLION, THAT'S IF YOUR BUDGET.

I LOVE THAT ONE.

BUT AS FOR NOW, WE'RE HANDLING 100 PLUS CALLS A DAY, HANDLING EMERGENCIES AT

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A LEVEL THAT I'M VERY HAPPY WITH.

SO IT'S SOMETHING LIKE IT'S BASICALLY ABOUT HALF OF OUR BUDGET NOW.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO GIVING YOU A SILENT SMILE.

I THINK YOU'RE SPEAKING HER LANGUAGE.

YEAH, WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENS TOLD ME, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF 10 DEPUTIES, YOU MAY NEVER HAVE ENOUGH VISIBILITY.

SO I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE'S ENGAGED A LOT MORE WITH IS THAT HE'S ON AND WE'VE HEARD THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO DO WITH MAKING IT THE SAFEST PLACE TO DRIVE IF THEY WANT WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

THAT THAT'S REALLY THE CRIME IS QUITE GOOD.

THE COMMUNITY REACTS TO THAT.

CERTAIN THINGS DON'T HAPPEN THAT ARE BAD.

BUT AS FAR AS ON AVERAGE, WE'RE A VERY SAFE COMMUNITY WHERE WE ARE SEEING BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS. EARLIER THIS YEAR, A LOT OF THINGS OF A FULL FLEDGED OPERATING AND AGGRESSIVE VIOLENCE.

ONE ISSUE THAT FRUSTRATES US THE MOST IS THE WAY OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS DRIVING.

IT'S VERY UNSAFE, SO WE'RE TAKING SOME OF OUR OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE

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TRYING TO SOLVE BY DEFAULT AND THESE OTHER PROBLEMS AND FOCUSING ON TRAFFIC THAT THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR US.

SO WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

I ONLY HAVE FOR MORE TIME AND IT'S FOUR DAYS A WEEK TO DO THE TRAINING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN.

BUT I HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY CLERK AND WE'RE GOING TO IT THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, OK? WE'VE BEEN ATTENTIVE, BUT I'VE SPOKEN TO AREAS AND ALSO ABOUT FINDING RESOURCES

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OUTSIDE US.

JUST GO QUICK FIRST ON WHAT SORT OF EVIDENCE COMES TO LIGHT.

SO IT'S CERTAINLY ANOTHER WORK OF STATE OF GLOBAL CRIMINALITY, AND IT HAS A

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CAMERA SO WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE APPROPRIATE DETERRENCE IN THE WEST.

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SO WHY HAS SOME DISCUSSION, IN MY OPINION, OF THE MAYOR ABOUT HOW AN ORDER OF SERGEANT BENELLI, WHAT WE CAN DO IMMEDIATELY AND WHAT TO DO AT THE COUNTY LEVEL TO GIVE US SOME MORE RESOURCES TO DO THAT? SO THIS YEAR, YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT GOMEZ WE ARE GOING TO BE ALL OUR TRAFFIC.

SO THAT'S STATE EMERGENCY COMES UP.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TAKE MORE RESOURCES DOWN TO THE BEST WE CAN.

DID NOT HEAR FROM COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS OR MY VICE MAYOR GELIN.

DID YOU ALL WANT TO SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO VISIBILITY, [INAUDIBLE] I'M OK WITH [INAUDIBLE] CAN WE SKIP THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER PLACKO SAID COVID.

UNLESS YOU WANT AN IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, I KNOW YOU'VE SAID THAT IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE HOA HAVE BEEN MEETING AND THINGS LIKE THAT WERE HAPPENING TO NOT ONLY IN THE PAST.

SO COUNCILMAN MADAM MAYOR, THAT'S GOING TO OPEN UP A LOT MORE MEETINGS, BUT WE DO A LOT OF VIRTUAL STUFF AND WE'VE BEEN USING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THAT.

WE'VE GOT GOOD COMMUNICATION AND WE HAVE ALL OUR TEAM, LOCAL TEAM TO DO CONTENT MARKETING STUFF.

IT'S TOTALLY A PUBLIC OPTION.

IT'S OK.

MOVING FORWARD HERE COMES SOME BIG TICKET ITEMS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT.

TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PUT ON HOLD AND COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT OR SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT IN? THAT'S ENOUGH.

WE DO THAT WITH OUR CIP TYPE STUFF, WHERE DO YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH IT NOW? WHAT IS YOUR UPDATE? AND JUST TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF IT AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THE FUTURE.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW AND UPDATE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON? ABSOLUTELY.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME WITHOUT? OK? NO, NOT AT ALL.

SORRY, SORRY.

THERE'S A LITTLE MIC HERE, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

SO WE THE FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS REALLY WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE FOCUS IS REALLY WORKING TO IMPLEMENT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT'S

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NOT WORKING.

IT'S A NICE CREAM RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE.

NO, NO, IT IS.

OK.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE FOCUS IS CONTINUES TO BE IMPLEMENTING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.

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OF COURSE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT IS A HUGE PRIORITY FOR FOR THE CITY.

SO THE FOCUS IS WORKING ON THAT.

AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE COMING YEAR, YOU, THE CITY COMMISSION, AS YOU WELL

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KNOW, AUTHORIZED OUR DEVELOPER INCENTIVES GRANT PROGRAM LAST YEAR.

SO THE FOCUS AND THAT'S A TWO YEAR PROGRAM.

SO THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, THAT'S REALLY A FOCUS FOR MARKETING AND OUTREACH TO THE PRIMARILY SOUTH FLORIDA DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS OUR EXISTING PLAZA OWNERS TO ENCOURAGE THEIR INVESTMENT VIA THE GRANT PROGRAMS IN REDEVELOPING AND OR SIGNIFICANTLY MAKING COMPREHENSIVE UPDATES AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR PROPERTIES.

SO THAT IS GOING TO BE A HUGE FOCUS IN THE COMING YEAR AND NEXT YEAR AS WELL IS WORKING ON THOSE PROGRAMS AND THEN THE OTHER WAY IN SUPPORT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

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STRATEGIC PLAN, AS IS WORKING TO ACQUIRE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOCUS AREAS, STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS.

SO WE ARE WORKING ON THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY ARISE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE AN RFP THAT WE ISSUED, AS YOU KNOW, AND OUR MEDICAL MILE DISTRICT ACROSS FROM THE UNIVERSITY HOUSE HCA HOSPITAL.

AND WE ARE WORKING TO SELL THAT PROPERTY AND HAVE THAT REDEVELOPED FOR RESTAURANT AND RETAIL.

SO WORKING ON THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS THEY ARRIVE, ARISE.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS BILL WILL ADD TO IT, AND THEN

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OTHERWISE,

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I'LL JUST KEEP THE IDEA HERE IS REALLY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN OLD CIVILIAN STOCK, WE HAVE PENT UP DEMAND AND ITS EARLIER.

DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING TO TO BUILD IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

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THIS IS A GREAT MARKET.

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AND SO THE TIME IS NOW.

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SO THAT'S A READY.

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SO THE STATE CAPITAL NEEDS TO BE INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT LORI HAS MENTIONED ARE

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REALLY IMPORTANT TO DOING THAT.

WE'RE HOPING TO GET CATALYZING PROJECTS IN IMPORTANT AREAS WHERE WE REALLY FEEL LIKE TAMARAC VILLAGE WITH THE CATALYZING PRESENT, THE TAMARAC MS. THIS FACILITY THAT IT JUST SET THE BAR AS TO WHAT WE EXPECT IN TAMARAC.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT IN IMPORTANT AREAS.

YOU KNOW, THE 441 CORRIDOR AND MARSHALL UNIVERSITY MARSHALL, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON THOSE MAIN DRAGS WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD THE TAX BASE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR IS THE BURDEN IS DISPROPORTIONATELY FELT BY RESIDENTIAL TAX PAYERS, SO THE MORE WE CAN BUILD FEWER NEW DEVELOPMENT ON OLDER SITES THAT WILL PLAY INTO IT.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO AS WE LOOK AT REDEVELOPMENT, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT LOOKS GOOD AND IMAGE BECAUSE THAT DOES HAPPEN.

IF IT IMPROVES, WILL WE DO BETTER? BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE LONG TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.

AND THAT WOULD BE WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE.

AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A TAX RATE THAT'S FAIR AND

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CONTINUES TO PAY FOR THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE? SO THAT'S REALLY AS IT RELATES TO REDEVELOPMENT AT THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING IN AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO IT.

ANOTHER ITEM UNDER HERE IS THE DISPARITY STUDY.

BUT SORRY, CAN WE GO BACK IN FOR JUST A MINUTE? LAURIE, WHEN YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE, WE WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM WHO'S TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US YET.

I'VE D, THANK YOU.

THE ANSWER IS YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO IN FACT, THESE ARE SUBSTANTIVE GRANTS, AS YOU KNOW, AND SO EACH DEAL THAT

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MOVES FORWARD, WE HAVE SOMEBODY GETTING READY TO COME IN WITH AN APPLICATION NOW.

SO YOU WILL BE SEEING A GRANT AGREEMENT COME BEFORE YOU FOR FINAL APPROVAL AT A COMMISSION MEETING.

OK GOOD.

YOU KNOW, KATHLEEN, SOMETHING YOU SAID AS WE TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE PLANNED REDEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST THROW SOMETHING IN BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IT HAS TO BE SUSTAINABLE LONG TERM AND SOMETHING THAT FITS INTO THE CITY PLAN.

SO I WAS HAPPY TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT.

YES.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAXINE TALKED AT LENGTH THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT'S THAT BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT THE MARKET WANTS TO BUILD AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTAND CITYWIDE WHAT THE TOLERANCE LEVEL IS FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

SO IT'S REALLY FINDING THE SWEET SPOT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THIS YEAR.

I THINK IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE COMFORTABLE.

THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE ANYMORE BECAUSE JUST TO THROW IN A LITTLE PLUG, WHICH I SHARED WITH YOU, THE PULTE HOMES AT WOODMONT, THE NEW SIDE WENT UP STARTING AT $700000.

SO THAT'S SUPER.

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ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM VICE MAYOR OR ? WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DISPARITY STUDY? YES, THE COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 TO SUPPORT A DISPARITY STUDY, SO IT'S TAKING A WHILE TO.

I HAVE TO BE HONEST.

[INAUDIBLE] .

COMMISSIONER BOLTON TO STUDY, WE DECIDED THAT THERE WAS AN ACT OF SOLICITATION WITH A POOL OF VETERANS FOR THIS STUDY WAS VERY SMALL, BUT THERE WAS AN ACTIVE STUDY BEING DONE BY [INAUDIBLE].

SO WE WANT IT TO BE CONFIRMED THAT THEY THINK ABOUT WHEN THEY WERE FINISHED WITH THIS LOCATION.

NOW THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD NOT GOTTEN YET IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 BUDGET.

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IT'S ALL ONE KIND OF SPEND, SO WE ARE ABLE TO REPORT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT ANOTHER STUDY.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL .

COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS? I WAS CURIOUS.

NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO ASK IT OR ASK QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

AS A REFRESHER, WHAT EXACTLY DOES A DISPARITY STUDY PROVIDE US BY THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEEK FROM IT? OUR STUDY LOOKED AT INEQUALITY AND PUBLIC [INAUDIBLE].

MINORITIES AND THOSE KIND OF OPPOSITION WOMEN MEAN BUSINESS REALLY, AS THE PURPOSE IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, BECOMING THE LATTER.

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BUT IT'S FAIR TO DO THAT.

THIS IS ABOUT BUSINESS.

SO A FOLLOW UP TO THAT.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE LINKS, RIGHT, THE LEEDS PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO BUILD TO A

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CERTAIN LEVEL FOR LEEDS, BUT WE DON'T.

ACTUALLY, WE FOLLOW THE PROGRAM, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY SUBSCRIBE TO IT WHERE WE PAY THE

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MONEY SO WE CAN BE CERTIFIED.

IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IS THAT, AM I RIGHT? YES.

YES.

OK, SO WE CAN DO THIS.

IS THERE A METHODOLOGY THAT IS IN PLACE OR WE CAN FIND THAT WOULD FIND US THE SAME

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INFORMATION THAT A CERTIFIED DISPARITY STUDY WOULD FIND US TO BE ABLE TO STILL MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS PROPERLY OR IF WE'RE NOT DOING THEM PROPERLY TO MAKE SURE WE WILL BE.

IS THERE ANOTHER METHODOLOGY TO GET TO THE SAME PLACE? WHAT I'M ASKING THAT MAY NOT COST 317 THOUSAND DOLLARS? WE DO ALREADY HAVE SOME THINGS IN PLACE WHERE WE ENSURE THAT THE CAPABILITIES THAT WE'RE ON TRACK, WHERE WOMEN ARE, ARE YOU THE MEN ARE ARE THERE, THAT WE HAVE A GOOD MIX OF BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE CONTRACTING IN AND WE WILL HAVE SOME PROCESS FROM THAT BECAUSE WE WERE RIGHT NOW ABOUT 30 PERCENT IN TERMS OF SEEKING NEEDS, IN TERMS OF OUR TOTAL CONTRACT AND THE AMOUNT THAT WAS BEING SPENT.

SO WE'RE RIGHT AT ABOUT 30 PERCENT.

WHETHER OR NOT I'M NOT IN MR. WAY THAT IS RAISED, I AM NOT QUITE SURE, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD NUMBER FOR ALL OUR CONTRACTORS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO TRACK.

SO I'M HEARING THERE IS A WAY TO POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO TRACK THIS INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON A GOOD COURSE TO BECAUSE WE'RE INCREASING AND POSSIBLY MAYBE PUT A STUDY ON HOLD FOR MAYBE A YEAR TO SEE HOW WE GO AND NOT BE SPENDING 317 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

MY PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT ALSO IS KIND OF WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS MONEY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING FROM SURTAX NOW THAT WE'RE RELYING ON AND BEING ABLE TO SAY YES TO SOMETHING HERE, WHICH WE MIGHT HAVE TO SAY NO IN THE FUTURE.

I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL PICTURE IN FRONT OF US TO BE ABLE TO SAY, AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK OR WE DON'T GO BACK OR WE CONFUSE YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE'VE SAID YES HERE, BUT WE TALK ABOUT IT LATER ON AND WE MAY NOT GO BACK TO IT.

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SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CONCEPT.

MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT THE MONEY.

AND IF WE CAN GET TO THE SAME LOCATION THROUGH A DIFFERENT MANNERISM WITHOUT ACTUAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO GET US SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT WE ACT ON.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE COMING IN FOR YOU.

SO YOU'LL HAVE MUCH MORE DETAIL AND MUCH MORE DISCUSSION BEFORE YOU CONTINUE TO.

AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT AND TO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A WHOLE CIP, WE'RE GOING TO GO

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THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THIS IS A CONVERSATION TODAY AND THIS IS AN IDEA THAT I'VE D BEEN AGREED TO AND THAT THE MONEY [INAUDIBLE].

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO SEE THE ATTENTION OF THE OF THE BODY.

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SO I THINK KEITH IS ON THE LINE, TOO.

HE MAY HAVE SOME INFORMATION, TOO, AS IT RELATES TO WHY THE DISPARITY STUDY, BUT I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR HAS HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST, SO I DON'T KNOW.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO FIRST, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE?

[03:35:40]

I WILL GO FIRST.

OK.

NUMBER ONE, WE WANTS THIS ITEM UNANIMOUSLY BY THE COUNCILMAN.

THE FORMER CITY MANAGER, WHO WAS NEVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTION OR LACK OF ACTION, FAILED TO PUT THE ITEM IN THE BUDGET.

DISPARITY STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE BY THE CITY OF MIRAMAR, FORT LAUDERDALE, PALM BEACH AND MULTIPLE AGENCIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER AND THE PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR.

THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE COST OF A DISPARITY STUDY AND PLACED THE ITEM IN THE BUDGET, AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 5-0.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A DISTRIBUTION? IT DETERMINES IF THE INEQUITIES EXIST IN PUBLIC PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACTING THAT ADVERSELY AFFECT DISADVANTAGED BUSINESSES, MINORITIES AND WOMEN.

AND THE FACT REMAINS IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC THAT EXISTS.

LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF TAMARAC SPEND IS WITH BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES.

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LESS THAN EIGHT PERCENT OF TAMARAC.

SEEING IS WITH HISPANIC OWNED BUSINESSES, AND THE NUMBERS ARE LOW WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES AND VETERAN BUSINESSES.

SO THE PURPOSE OF A DISPARITY STUDY IS TO CORRECT FOR THOSE DISPARITIES AND PUT AN ACTUAL POLICY IN PLACE.

THAT WILL REVERSE THE COURSE OF THOSE DISPARITIES.

AND IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING, THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE.

THE PART OF THE CARES ACT FUND ALLOWS FOR THE SPENDING ON DISPARITY STUDIES BECAUSE THE POINT OF THE CARES ACT FUNDING IS TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE FUNDING IS THERE.

THIS WAS VOTED ON AND APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

AND AGAIN, THE FAILURE OF FORMER CITY COMMISSION.

THE CITY MANAGER MICHAEL CERNECH TO ADD THIS TO THE BUDGET IS WHY THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION NOW.

BUT CAN WE JUST GET A CONSENSUS THAT WE'VE GOT? COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS? WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU REPEAT THAT, AND WE JUST GOT TO IT OR NOT.

I THINK WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IS FOR EVERYONE TO BE ADVISED THAT IT'S

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GOING TO COME BACK FOR APPROVAL WITH A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT TO DO SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S BUT THAT'S THE PLAN.

I THINK KEITH WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING AND I WANT IT ON THE RECORD.

I WASN'T SAYING NOT DOING IT.

I'M ASKING IF THERE'S ANOTHER MECHANISM IN PLACE OTHER THAN THIS PARTICULAR MANNER.

THERE IS NO OTHER MECHANISM.

WELL, I WAS ASKING THE PROFESSIONALS, BUT THANK YOU AND I'M THE PROFESSIONAL.

OK.

KEITH WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING TO US.

GOOD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, KEITH, ABOUT YOUR PURCHASING CONTRACT MANAGER.

I WILL SLOW DOWN THE ECHO.

THE DISPARITY STUDY IS A LEGAL MECHANISM THAT THE SUPREME COURT IN 1989 FOR DECISION TO REVERSE THE CITY OF RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, DETERMINED TO BE A METHOD THAT COULD BE USED TO PROVIDE GREATER OPPORTUNITY AND A DISADVANTAGE.

OTHERWISE, THE COURT AND THAT POINT TO SEVERAL SET ASIDE THAT HAD BEEN IMPLEMENTED [INAUDIBLE], I WAS ACTUALLY AT THE TIME EMPLOYED BY THE STATE OF ILLINOIS AND THE PROGRAM WE HAD ATTEMPTED TO START FOR CITIZENS.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT DECISION, THE DISPARITIES, THE STUDY WAS THE ONLY LEGAL MECHANISM.

BUT BY NOW, HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE US FROM VIGOROUS EFFORTS TO SEEK MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED PARTICIPATION.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PROSPECTS, WHICH INCLUDE ALSO THE VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS THE COUNTY IS AS THE CBE, HE WE'VE ACTUALLY ACHIEVED ABOUT 81 PERCENT TOTAL PARTICIPATION [INAUDIBLE].

WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF RESPONSES FROM HISPANIC OWNED FIRMS, AND I WOULD SAY THAT REPRESENTED PERHAPS OF THE 21 PERCENT MINORITY DURING THE PAST FISCAL YEAR.

WE HAVE ABOUT 46 PERCENT OF THAT WAS BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND SIX PERCENT ASIAN AND SIX PERCENT NATIVE AMERICAN.

I HAVE AN IDEA AND I THAT THOSE ARE LEGIT COMMISSIONER GELIN AND WE CAN PROVIDE YOU THE SPREADSHEET THAT DOCUMENTATION FOR THE LAST TWO.

NOW, I THINK THAT'S FAIRLY PHENOMENAL WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE US.

I ATTEMPTED TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT WAS IN SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSES FROM ALMOST ALL THE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU, KEITH.

SO I KNOW IT WAS HARD TO HEAR, [INAUDIBLE] NOT WITHSTANDING HAVING THAT LEGAL MECHANISM, THE CITY HAS IMPLEMENTED THINGS TO ENCOURAGE MORE SPENDING WITH MINORITY FIRMS. SO I DON'T GET A QUESTION FROM VICE MAYOR BOLTON ABOUT WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF EACH GROUP SHARE IN THE COMMISSION.

AFRICAN AMERICANS GET LOST IN THE GROUP MINORITY.

[INAUDIBLE] AFRICAN-AMERICANS IS LESS THAN ONE PERCENT.

SO THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE WILL BE STARTING TO GET BACK TO ALL

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FOR THE SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS.

[INAUDIBLE] KATHLEEN, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE APPEARANCE AND LAUNCHES PROBABLY ON THE HORIZON? YEAH, I EXPECT TO BE HERE ANYWAY.

SO YEAH, YOU AN IMAGE.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC ART, WHICH I'M SURE IS NOT A SMALL SUBJECT MATTER.

ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD AND RELEASE THIS ONE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS ABOUT APPEARANCE AND IMAGE.

AND SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT COST A LOT OF MONEY.

WE HAVE A LANDSCAPING MASTERPLAN.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER ON TODAY.

AND YOU HAVE GROUP [INAUDIBLE] AND THERE'S THIS INCENTIVE AND THERE'S NO DIRECT FUNDING SOURCE OFTEN FOR LANDSCAPING.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE LANDSCAPING IN OUR OBEDIENCE.

WE PUT ANYTHING THAT WE DO WOULD COST A LITTLE BIT MORE IF WE WERE TO DO MORE GOING ON OR MORE FREQUENT TREE TRIMMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITHIN A CERTAIN LEVEL FOR A WHILE AND JUST SPEAK TO IT AS NECESSARY.

BUT IT IS.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON OR [INAUDIBLE], RECOGNIZING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPLANT ALL MEDIANS AND DO SOMETHING HUGE AND DRAMATIC UNLESS WE HAVE SOME OF PEOPLE, BUT REGULAR TREE MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT?

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IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT? IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE MORE MONEY.

OR ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE WAY THINGS LOOK AT THE DATA.

[INAUDIBLE].

WELL, I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE UPDATING EVERYTHING AND KEEPING IT LOOKING NICE OR ELSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO OTHER CITIES.

AND IT'S AMAZING WHAT JUST SOME TRIMMING, SOME TREES AND SOME SHRUBS AND ADDING SOME COLOR AND KEEPING THE GARBAGE OFF OF IT THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT THE WORLD IS A GARBAGE CAN OUT OF THE MEDIANS DOES FOR FOR A COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY PARENTS UP AND PLAZA APPEARANCES.

WE NEED TO BE ASKING THEM TO JOIN OUR PROGRAM, STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND REALIZE THAT THEY CAN PUT THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE VERY SIMPLE TO MAINTAIN.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I WANT MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THAT.

AND THEN ART IS ART.

DO I HAVE THAT? YES.

I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S A SAD CASE TO BE ASKING IF WE SHOULD SPEND MORE MONEY ON COMMUNITY APPEARANCE AND IMAGE.

I JUST THINK THAT'S THAT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE AND THE LACK OF LEADERSHIP.

YOU DRIVE AROUND TAMARAC.

I MEAN, SOME OF THE STREETS, THE SIDEWALKS ARE, IT'S HORRIBLE.

IT'S I MEAN, IT'S YOU NEED TO POWER WASH THEM AND CURIOUS TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS DRIVEN AROUND THE CITY LATELY BECAUSE I HAVE.

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AND IT'S JUST, I WANT TO BE NICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB.

AND THIS SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ONE OF THE TOPICS TO DISCUSS COMING INTO AREAS.

THIS IS NOT I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE ASKING CORAL SPRINGS OR A WESTIN.

YOU JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO LOOK IMPECCABLE AND EXCELLENCE SHOULD BE WHAT WE'RE STRIVING FOR.

SO WHY ARE WE ASKING ABOUT COMMUNITY [INAUDIBLE] IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

SO IS THIS A BUDGET ISSUE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A BUDGET WORKSHOP? THE MANAGER WAS THINKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO SPEND MORE MONEY THAN THEY ALREADY ARE LANDSCAPING SO WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE'RE SPENDING THAT MONEY BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF PROCUREMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S INCENTIVE TO GO MEET THE DAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO.

PEOPLE DO IT.

RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT A BUDGET WORKSHOP, RIGHT? SO I MEAN, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DISCUSSING MONEY.

BACK IN SEPTEMBER, WE ALLOCATED MONEY FOR ALL OF THAT STUFF.

SO IF IT'S STAFF'S NOW PREROGATIVE TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY BETTER, TO MAKE BETTER PARENTS.

SO YOU'RE ASKING THE CITY COMMISSION, DO YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON COMMUNITY [INAUDIBLE].

I JUST THINK THAT IS RUDE.

I GOT AN EMAIL OVER THE WEEKEND.

I STAY IN TOUCH WITH WITH THE ENTIRE CITY SINCE 2016, AND HERE IS A MESSAGE FROM A [INAUDIBLE]RESIDENT.

I LIVE IN [INAUDIBLE] AND I'M EMBARRASSED THAT THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY IS IN SUCH DISREPAIR.

78TH STREET AND UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

THE DEVELOPER DID NOT INVEST SOME MONEY INTO THE ENTRANCE FACADE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET IS NOT REALLY THAT IS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.

TAKE A WALK ALONG THAT AREA AND YOU WILL BE APPALLED.

HERE ARE SOME PICTURES I TOOK OF THE AREA.

PLEASE SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

RESIDENTS ALL OVER THE CITY OBVIOUSLY REACH OUT TO ME FOR THINGS.

I TOLD THEM THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT I WOULD FORWARD THE EMAIL TO HIS COMMISSIONER ON MONDAY.

YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS THE CRY OF RESIDENTS, NOT JUST IN MY DISTRICT, BUT ALL OVER THE CITY.

AND WE'VE BEEN HEARING THIS FOR MANY YEARS.

EVEN WHEN YOUR PREDECESSOR WAS WAS HERE, YOU SAT BESIDE HIM AND WE SAT IN THESE MEETINGS AND WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY APPEARANCE AND IMAGE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TIME FOR US, AND IT LOOKS GOOD.

AND SO HERE'S 2022.

WE'RE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS AGAIN.

I JUST THINK THAT THESE MEETINGS KEEP US IN A SHAPE WHERE WE ARE ALWAYS ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS AND LET US BRING IT BACK, LET US BRING IT BACK, AND WE NEVER ACTUALLY DO THINGS ABOUT IT.

POWER WASH OUR STREETS, MANICURE THE LAWNS, CLEAN IT UP AND LET US ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS AS EXCELLENT LEADERS.

IT'S AGAIN, IT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE, AND THAT IS RUDE TO HAVE THIS IDEA BEING ASKED OF THE CITY.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO? FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU COULD EMAIL THAT, TOO, I WILL EXPLAIN IT TO THEM FOR THE 400TH TIME.

THE ENTRANCE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.

IT'S NOT ONE OWNER, IT'S NOT THE COUNTRY CLUB THAT'S OWNER.

I KNOW MAXINE IS GETTING TO THE END OF IT AND WE WILL HAVE IT FIXED, BUT IT'S BEEN GOING ON.

IT'S BEEN A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE.

I'VE EXPLAINED 400 TIMES, BUT I WILL DO IT AGAIN.

APPEARANCE IS KEY AND I THINK WE HAVE TO SET THE EXAMPLE AS A CITY.

HOW CAN WE GO OUTSIDE OUR RESIDENTS FOR NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR LANDSCAPING AND THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND CLEANING THEIR ROOFS AND ALL THAT IF WE'RE NOT DOING IT OURSELVES? SO THAT'S AN UPSET.

I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS IN THREE OF US.

ONE QUICK POINT.

RIGHT.

SO I WAS TALKING TO A NEIGHBOR AND THE NEIGHBOR SAYS, I'M GLAD I LIVE IN TAMARAC.

I SAID, OH, REALLY? WHY IS THAT? NEIGHBOR SAYS I WOULD NEVER WANT TO GO AND LIVE IN CORAL SPRINGS.

WHY? BECAUSE THEY CITE YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

THEY WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR YARD IS IS PERFECT.

I WALKED AWAY FROM THAT CONVERSATION TO SMILING AND HITTING MYSELF LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN TAMARAC BECAUSE WE, WE'RE RELAXED AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOME GET IT.

SO SO.

WE NEED TO STEP ON THE BALL AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE NOT JUST NOT JUST RESIDENTS, BUT OUR STREETS LOOK LIKE A JUNGLE.

IT'S LIKE, HAVE WE DRIVEN AROUND IT LATELY OR ARE WE DRIVING TO MIAMI BEACH OR POMPANO BEACH WHERE WE LIVE? WE NEED TO DRIVE AROUND TAMARAC JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE AND FIND OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE SIMPLE.

OR COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS? YEAH, I AGREE.

I DID VERY [INAUDIBLE], AND I'VE EXPRESSED THIS BEFORE,

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SO I'M IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD AND [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU.

SO BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT I TO STAY IN FAVOR OF EVERYTHING THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND COMMISSIONER PLACKO MENTIONED AS WELL AS THE MAYOR.

CORRECT.

VICE MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE ANY INPUT? IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO LUNCH HOUR.

YEAH, I'M INTO BOARD AND I LEFT SOME QUESTIONS IN THE CHAT.

THANK YOU.

GOT TO MOVE ON.

SO IT'S TIME THIS ONE.

CAN YOU READ THEM FOR RECORD? YES, I'LL READ IT FOR THE RECORD.

WHAT ARE YOU SPENDING NOW AND WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR YOU TO SPEND? WHERE ARE WE LANDSCAPING AND UPDATING PLAZAS? WHERE ARE WE NOT? SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER RECAP AND ANSWER THE QUESTION NOW, BUT WE WILL PROVIDE AN ANSWER TO THE COMMISSION SO THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE.

THANK YOU.

SO AT THIS TIME, LUNCH IS BEING SERVED ONE.

AND IF I CAN ADD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT BUILDING ROCKET SHIPS, A LOT OF THESE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THIS MISSION BECOME VERY EMOTIONAL DRIVEN WITH THE COMMISSION INAUDIBLE].

WE BARELY HEARD, TO BE HONEST.

AND IF YOU WOULD PUT YOURSELF IN A CHAT, COMMISSIONER WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL [INAUDIBLE] WE HAD NO IDEA.

COMMISSIONER COULD YOU PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS IN THE CHAT SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THEM? THAT WILL HELP US BECAUSE WE COULD NOT HEAR YOU CLEARLY.

OKAY.

THE LUNCH BREAK QUESTION FROM VICE MAYOR, LUNCH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR 30 MINUTES, BUT I BELIEVE WE ARE RUNNING UP AGAINST A PRESENTATION WE HAVE OUTSIDE GUESTS.

THE CONSULTANT GROUP FROM FSU TO PROVIDE A DISTRICT ANALYSIS WITH THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

CITY MANAGER, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED AT THIS TIME? [INAUDIBLE].

I SAY WORK THROUGH LUNCH AND YOU'RE OK WITH US EATING WHILE YOU'RE YES.

OK.

OK, TEAM, IT'S LUNCH BREAK AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE F-18 CONSULTING GROUP.

LET ME CLOSE WITH THIS AND SAY THAT WE HAVE HEARD YOU AND A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE DID NOT GET TO.

WHAT WE WILL DO IS WRAP THIS UP, BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND A FULL REPORT AT A COMMISSION MEETING SO THAT YOU HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT OUR TEAM PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE.

AND YOU CAN ALWAYS REMEMBER.

DEARLY BELOVED, WE ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY TO MAKE YOUR VISION, THE VISION OF A COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR PATIENCE.

ENJOY YOUR LUNCH! THANK YOU.

THIS IS EVERY 10 YEARS THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO ANALYZE THEIR HISTORY, ACCORDING TO A CHARTER THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THE 2020 CENSUS AND THE NUMBERS ARE RELEASED SEPTEMBER 30, 2021.

A LITTLE LATE.

[INAUDIBLE] .

IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

YOU SEE FAMILIAR FACES.

I WAS HERE MANY YEARS AGO IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES AS WELL AS THIS TYPE OF CAPACITY.

SO MY NAME IS MIKE STAMP.

I AM AN ADJUNCT FACULTY MEMBER AT FLORIDA ATLANTIC UNIVERSITY AND HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MY AGENDA TODAY AND INTRODUCE THE TEAM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CITY CHARTER, THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE OF THE CHARTER.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT WE UNDERTOOK IN THAT PROPOSAL.

THE DISTRICT POPULATION ANALYSIS OF THE POPULATION, AS WELL AS THE PROJECTED POPULATIONS WE'VE LOOKED AT AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS.

SO OUR TEAM AGAIN TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE SOME.

WITH US TODAY IS DR. BOURASSA, WAVE YOUR HAND.

HE'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER, MR. JAMES GAVIN CLARK.

HE'S REALLY IN CHARGE OF ALL [INAUDIBLE].

NOT WITH US TODAY IS DR.

SCHULTZ.

AND AS I MENTIONED, I'M MIKE STAMM.

TOGETHER, WE'VE GOT DECADES OF EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO REDISTRICTING.

YOU'VE GOT EXPERIENCE REDISTRICTING HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND WE'RE DOING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF REDISTRICTING.

SO HOPEFULLY.

JUST A RECOMMENDATION.

SO THE CITY CHARTER YOUR CHARGE CLEARLY, AND IT'S FOR REFERENCE, FOLLOWING THE CENSUS IN 2021 AND EVERY TEN YEARS THEREAFTER OR SOONER, IF IT'S DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION THAT DISTRICTS HAVE BECOME UNBALANCED DUE TO POPULATION SHIFTS.

THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL CONTRACT WITH AN ACCREDITED FOUR YEAR COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY LOCATED WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR THE PURPOSES OF IDENTIFYING AND DESIGNATING FOR ELECTION DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL ADOPT THE REDISTRICTING PLAN AS DESIGNATED, PROVIDED THAT THE PLAN INCORPORATES THE PRINCIPLES OF NONDISCRIMINATION AND FAIRNESS INSTEAD OF UP FIRST.

PRETTY CLEAR.

SO THE PROCESS IS THAT, FOR REFERENCE, THE CENSUS DATA CAME OUT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

NORMALLY, CENSUS DATA, WE ALL FILLED OUT OUR FORMS BACK IN APRIL OF 2020.

NORMALLY WE GET THE DATA ABOUT A YEAR LATER AND WE START THIS PROCESS.

IN FACT, THEY START THIS PROCESS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES.

WELL, THIS TIME THE DATA CAME LATE, SO WE'RE ALL A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL, BUT WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP.

THE COUNTY JUST ADOPTED THEIR MAPS IN DECEMBER.

THE SCHOOL BOARD ADOPTED THEIR ANNOUNCED IN DECEMBER.

THEY'RE UNDER A DIFFERENT MANDATE BASED ON STATE STATUTES, BUT EVERYBODY IS DOING THIS AND GOING THROUGH THESE PROCESSES.

YOUR CHARTER SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THESE PROCESSES.

THE DATASET THAT WE USE IS SPECIFICALLY CREATED FOR REDISTRICTING.

PUBLIC LAW DATA SET 94.71.

THE DATA DOES NOT HAVE IT.

IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

TOTAL POPULATION AND THEN SOME DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION, WHITE, BLACK, MULTIPLE RACES AND THEN ALSO ETHNIC ORIGIN INFORMATION, HISPANIC OR LATINO OR NOT, HISPANIC OR LATINO.

THE DATASET THAT WE USE AS PART OF THAT IS THE SMALLEST DATASET.

IT IS A CENSUS BLOCK.

THAT'S WHAT MOST MUNICIPALITIES USE WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE REDISTRICTING EFFORTS AT LARGER JURISDICTIONS.

MAYBE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAY USE CENSUS TRACTS BIG LARGE BLOCKS.

WE'RE USING THE SMALLEST OF MEASURE TO GET US TO THE NEXT POINT.

WE ALSO TALK TO YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

WE KNOW WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LATE.

DATA CAME LATE, DEVELOPMENT HASN'T STOPPED, YOU'RE STILL BUILDING, YOU GUYS STILL HAVE PROGRESS GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE'VE GOT NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES GOING UP.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NEW HOUSES BEING BUILT WITH COMMUNITIES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

SO WE ALSO DID AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S TO COME.

ONCE WE LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS, THERE WOULD BE ANY CHANGES SHOULD THE COMMISSION DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD TO PART B OF OUR PROPOSAL.

YOU CREATE REDISTRICTING OPTIONS.

LET ME TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS BEFORE WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE MAP.

JUST ON THE MAP HERE, YOU CAN SEE DISTRICT ONE IS SHOWN IN RED DISTRICT TWO IS SHOWN IN YELLOW, DISTRICT THREE IN PURPLE AND DISTRICT FOUR AND GREEN.

SO WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS MAP IS THAT.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT ISSUES.

SO ACCORDING TO THE 2020 CENSUS BLOCKS OF POPULATION AND SAY IT'S AMERICA, SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN PEOPLE, THE AVERAGE POPULATION FOR EACH DISTRICT IS SEVENTEEN THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FOUR PEOPLE.

LET'S TAKE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

CURRENTLY, DISTRICT ONE IS THE LARGEST DISTRICT IN TERMS OF POPULATION, WITH EIGHTEEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN PEOPLE.

THE DISTRICT IS ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE PEOPLE ABOVE THE IDEAL THEORETICAL AVERAGE OF THE DISTRICTS.

DISTRICT THREE IS THE SMALLEST DISTRICT IN TERMS OF POPULATION, WITH SEVENTEEN THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN PEOPLE, WHICH IS ABOUT SIX HUNDRED AND SEVEN PEOPLE BELOW THE THEORETICAL AVERAGE.

ALL RIGHT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS TODAY, WHAT DOES IT SAY? WELL, DISTRICT, WE LOOK AT A 10 PERCENT THRESHOLD AS YOUR ANNUAL GOAL, AND THAT'S SUPPORTED BY CASE LAW.

YOU'RE UNDER 10 PERCENT.

YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

IF YOU'RE OVER 10 PERCENT, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR DISTRICTS.

SO.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS TODAY, WHAT DOES IT SAY? WELL, THE TOTAL SUM MEDIATION IS ABOUT SIX POINT SEVENTY SIX PERCENT.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SPREAD, SO WHEN WE ADD THE HIGHEST AND THE LOWEST DISTRICTS, WE HAVE THOSE TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER.

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SO WE HAD DISTRICT ONE WITH DISTRICT THREE.

THAT GIVES US A SPREAD OF 6.0 SEVEN.

THAT NUMBER IS PERFECTLY WITHIN THE ACCEPTABLE DEVIATION.

SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE TOOK IT A STEP FURTHER, WE CONTACTED THE CITY'S PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO SEE WHAT PROJECTS MAYBE WERE IN THE PIPELINE DURING THE CENSUS.

THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CENSUS.

FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE A HOUSE GOT A CEO AFTER CENSUS DAY.

MAYBE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS BEING CONSTRUCTED TODAY.

APARTMENT COMPLEXES TYPICALLY HIGHER DENSITY THAT COULD IMPACT WHAT A DISTRICT LOOKS LIKE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE REALLY CLOSE.

SO WHAT STAFF IDENTIFIED IS THE HIT AND TRAIL COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION KIND OF THROUGHOUT THE CENSUS TIME AND IN SOME HOMES OR [INAUDIBLE].

BAILEY SQUARE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, TAMARAC VILLAGE, WHICH WAS PARTIALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE ENCLAVES THAT WOODMONT AND THEN EDEN WEST.

SO THESE ARE THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT TO SEE IF HOW THEY MAY IMPACT WHAT THE DISTRICTS LOOK LIKE TODAY.

SO IF ALL THESE THINGS GET BUILT OUT WELL, THE DISTRICT WOULD BE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE LINE BECAUSE, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON A MAP AND IT FALL OUT OF ALIGNMENT WITHIN A YEAR.

AND BY THE WAY, THIS PRACTICE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING IN MANY, MANY CITIES.

WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A HUGE RESIDENTIAL PUSH THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA.

MANY COMMUNITIES ARE EXPERIENCING REDEVELOPMENT.

NEW HOUSING UNITS ARE GOING UP THROUGHOUT.

I MEAN, HERE IN TAMARAC, WE WE SAW THE GROWTH AROUND THE MAINLAND AND IN MANY OF THE GOLF COURSE COMMUNITIES.

SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TOOK ACCOUNT FOR.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

ONCE YOU PROJECT THE POPULATION, WHAT DOES IT SAY? WELL, WE USE 2023 AS A DROP DEAD LINE, SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, GIVE OR TAKE.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, IT TELLS US THAT TAMARAC'S POPULATION WILL GROW TO ABOUT SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND EIGHTY THREE.

AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE USING THE CURRENT PER PERSON AVERAGE THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE CENSUS FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE AVERAGE FOR EACH DISTRICT GOES UP TO EIGHTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE PEOPLE.

LOOKING A LITTLE DEEPER.

WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE SPREAD IN THE [INAUDIBLE]? WELL, IF THIS GROWTH OCCURS AS BEING PROJECTED, DISTRICT TWO WILL BECOME THE LARGEST DISTRICT AND DISTRICT TWO WILL GROW TO ABOUT NINETEEN THOUSAND SEVENTY FIVE PEOPLE.

DISTRICT THREE AGAIN, THERE WAS NO GROWTH PROJECTED IN DISTRICT THREE AS IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNED.

THAT DISTRICT WILL SAY AT 17000 367, AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE GAP KIND OF GROWS BETWEEN THE LARGEST AND THE SMALLEST DISTRICTS, AND IT GIVES US OUR CURRENT SPREAD WHERE OUR PROJECTED EXCUSE ME, OF NINE POINT TWENTY TWO.

NOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT NINE POINT TWO TWO IS STILL BELOW THE 10 PERCENT, SO THAT GIVES THE COMMISSION MANY, MANY OPTIONS.

BUT OPTION NUMBER ONE, THE COMMISSION COULD ELECT OR VOTE TO SELECT THEIR CURRENT DISTRICT BOUNDARY MAP AND KEEP IT IN PLACE, YOUR CURRENT DISTRICTS ARE VERY COMPACT.

IF I WAS STANDING IN DISTRICT THREE, I WOULD SAY PINE ISLAND IS MY BOUNDARY.

IT'S VERY CLEAR, VERY EASY TO FOLLOW.

WE HAVE GOOD COMPETITIVE DISTRICTS.

THE NUMBERS WERE TODAY'S NUMBERS WERE EVEN PROJECTED NUMBERS INTO THE NEXT YEAR OR SO STILL WORK.

SO THE COMMISSION IS IN GOOD STANDING WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR NUMBERS.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO READ SOME LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY FROM YOUR CHART.

SHOULD IT BE DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION THAT THE DISTRICTS HAVE BECOME UNBALANCED IN POPULATION SHIFTS? THE COMMISSION COULD CHOOSE TO REDISTRICT.

SO YES, IT'S REQUIRED THAT YOU LOOK AT THE CENSUS DATA AND LOOK AT DISTRICT ANALYSIS, BUT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND REVISIT IT.

NOW YOU'RE SAYING YOU TURN IN WHEN A DRAFT OF HIS LANGUAGE.

IT'S VERY SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN MANY OTHER CITIES.

ONE BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX OR ONE MASSIVE REDEVELOPMENT COULD THEORETICALLY THROW A DISTRICT OFF, SO THAT'S WHY THIS LANGUAGE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND AGAIN, WE KNOW HOW DEVELOPMENT CHANGES OVER TIME.

DIFFERENT EBBS AND FLOWS.

SO THE COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THIS IN THE FUTURE.

THE SECOND OPTION? IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSE PART B OF OUR PROPOSAL OR PART B WOULD BE FOR US TO CREATE REDISTRICTING OPTIONS, MAKE SOME MODEL ALTERNATIVES FOR THE COMMISSION TO EVALUATE IF WE WERE TO DO THAT JUST AS A GENERAL RULE.

WE'RE DOING THIS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

I'VE MADE YOU HAVE AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

WE KNOW WE HAVE AUGUST PRIMARIES.

WE WERE BEING TOLD BY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS THAT ALL MAPS SHOULD BE IN BY MARCH.

I BELIEVE YOUR CITY CONFIRM THAT INFORMATION.

SO OUR TIME FRAME GETS VERY ACCELERATED.

THE MAP HAS TO BE SUPERVISED SO THAT THEY CAN REDRAW THE PRECINCTS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THEIR VOTER ID CARDS AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO HAVE AN ELECTION.

SO SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO REDISTRICT? OUR TEAM IS READY TO MAKE MAP OPTIONS FOR YOU, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN MAKE THE DEADLINES WORK.

BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE A NEW MAP IN THE SUPERVISOR BY MARCH AND WOULD HAVE TO BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE WHEN WE DID.

WE DO REDISTRICT IF WE GO THAT ROUTE.

YOUR CHARTER STILL PROVIDES THIS GUIDANCE.

WE LOOK AT THE 10 PERCENT THRESHOLD.

WE TRY TO KEEP NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER.

COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST TOGETHER USE EASILY AND IDENTIFIABLE RECOGNIZED BOUNDARIES.

SO THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW WE APPROACH REDISTRICTING IS HOW WE APPROACH REDISTRICTING IN A SINGLE POINT.

SO AND AGAIN, THAT ALSO FALLS IN 1965 VOTING RIGHTS ACT, FAIR DISTRICT AMENDMENTS AND ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT CURRENTLY ARE OUT THERE WHEN IT COMES TO REDISTRICTING.

SO I'M GONNA LEAVE YOU WITH YOUR MAP THAT'S HERE TODAY, MYSELF.

THE TEAM WERE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO MY CLOSING STATEMENT ON THIS IS THAT YOU'RE NOT ALONE.

I CAN SAY YOU SHOULD GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UNLIKE OTHER CITIES.

YOU HAVE OPTIONS.

YOU'VE GOT THE OPTION TO REDISTRICT OR CHOOSE TO REDISTRICT AT A LATER DATE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD THERE BE.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING, OBVIOUSLY.

OKAY.

YOUR HAND IS, I GUESS, OK.

VICE MAYOR GELIN [INAUDIBLE].

SO FOR EXAMPLE, A COLD SPRING SUNRISE, BOARD A HILL, THOSE COMMISSIONS THEY RUN CITYWIDE.

THERE ARE SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT LIKE TO HAVE DISTRICTS.

SO ALTERNATIVELY, WHAT IF WE HAD MORE COMMISSION SEATS, BOTH AT LARGE? ONE WOULD BE A PERMANENT VICE MAYOR AND THE OTHER WOULD BE JUST AN AT LARGE COMMISSIONER.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? VICE MAYOR GELIN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO I WOULD TELL YOU THIS.

SHOULD THE CHARTER BE CHANGED, WE WOULD FOLLOW THE CHARTER IF YOU WERE TO HIRE US TO CREATE SOME NEW MAPS.

I WOULD PROBABLY DEFER TO YOUR CITY ATTORNEY AS TO PROCEDURALLY WHAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR BASED ON YOUR CURRENT CHARTER.

THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE CURRENT DISTRICTS.

I REALLY THINK THAT HYPOTHETICAL WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME.

MY RECOMMENDATION AT THE END OF THE DAY WOULD BE THAT THE CITY MAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION, EITHER ADOPTING THE MAP TODAY AS IT IS AND OR.

HIRING US TO DO REDISTRICTING OPTIONS.

THE REALITY IS, IS THAT THE ELECTORATE WILL STILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER, SO THERE'S A LOT OF WHAT IT'S IN BETWEEN HERE AND THERE.

SO I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A ROUNDABOUT WAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PUNT, BUT THERE'S SO MANY WHAT IFS IN THERE THAT IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO TO GIVE YOU A FORMAL RESPONSE ON THAT END.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE.

I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, THE ELECTIONS COMING UP, IT'LL JUST CONFUSE VOTERS.

THANK YOU, SEEING.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS NO QUESTION ABOUT EITHER, AND I DON'T SEE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS HANDS UP.

MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

I HEARD COMMISSIONER HE IS SAYING THAT THERE IS NO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REDISTRICTING BECAUSE IT WILL CONFUSE THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER.

WHAT ARE YOU? IS THAT WHAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? YEAH, NO NEED TO CHANGE NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.

THE ON THE 10 PERCENT THRESHOLD, SOMETHING THAT WAS A DEFINITE YES.

SO I WILL GO DOWN.

AT WHAT POINT IN THE FUTURE DO YOU THINK THAT WE WOULD GET OVER THAT 10 PERCENT

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THRESHOLD? SO COMMISSIONER THAT IS A QUESTION I WAS WAITING FOR.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO WE THINK BASED ON THE CURRENT PACE OF CONSTRUCTION, EVERYTHING ELSE, WE THINK THOSE NUMBERS WILL COME IN 2023 IF A PROJECT SLOWS DOWN FOR ANY REASON.

SO LET'S SAY ONE OF THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS SLOWS DOWN AND DOESN'T GET [INAUDIBLE] UNTIL 2024.

THAT MAY BE THE IMPETUS IN YOUR MIND TO SAY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT DISTRICTS.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I KNOW THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAD LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENTS.

I MEAN, SO I'M A PLANNER BY TRADE.

I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.

IF ANOTHER PROJECT MAYBE WERE APPROVED, MAYBE A LARGER PROJECT THAT WOULD TRIGGER THAT COULD BE SOMETHING.

YOU CAN BRING IT BACK UP AND SAY, HEY, THIS PROJECT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED.

WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING THROUGH PERMITTING.

THIS PROJECT IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

COUPLED WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT, THE NUMBERS WILL GO OVER 10 PERCENT.

THAT MAY BE A TRIGGER.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION.

I THINK THE COMMISSION HAS GOT SOME PRETTY WIDE AUTHORITY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT AGAIN.

I'LL DEFER ESPECIALLY TO YOUR CITY ATTORNEY IN TERMS OF A PROCESS.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOUR CHARTER GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT BASED ON WHEN THOSE PROJECTS MAYBE COME ON BOARD BECAUSE THEIR CHARTER SAYS SPECIFICALLY, I'M GOING TO SPOT THAT GIVE MIGHT BE FASTER FOR YOU TO DO IT IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CHARTER LANGUAGE.

IT'S ON THE BEFORE SLIDE.

THE CHARTER LANGUAGE IS VERY BROAD AND I THINK IT'S ESSENTIALLY RETURNED DRAFT THAT WAY.

THE FLEXIBILITY, IF YOU BELIEVE AS A COMMISSION, THAT THE POPULATIONS HAVE BECOME UNBALANCED.

OK, SO REMAINING ON THAT SLIDE, ACTUALLY, YEAH.

SO YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTED NUMBERS.

SO WITH I'M NOT I'M NOT TELLING YOU, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO OBVIOUSLY REDRAW MY MAP NOW, BUT.

IF IT TRENDS IN THAT DIRECTION CONTINUES AND THEN GOES PAST 10 PERCENT ON NOW SHIFTING TO THE MAP.

WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD? SO THAT'S ALWAYS THE COMMISSIONER THAT IS ALWAYS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION.

YOU HEAR THE GIGGLING IN THE BACK, RIGHT? WHY DO WE GET THERE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S ALWAYS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, RIGHT? SO WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD HAVE TO MOVE FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER DISTRICT TO MAKE THOSE THINGS CHANGE? RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT WE LOOK AT CERTAIN THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, THE POPULATION.

ABOVE ALL, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT ANYBODY DOES WHEN IT COMES TO REDISTRICTING AND WHAT A CITY DOES IS POPULATION, AND WE TRY TO GET THOSE NUMBERS AS CLOSE TO POSSIBLE CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.

NUMBER TWO, WE LOOK AT IMPACTS I MENTIONED BEFORE HIGHLIGHTING THIS IS A VERY CLEAR BOUNDARY BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR.

IT'S EASILY IDENTIFIABLE.

BUT THE ONE THING I CAN'T SAY, COMMISSIONER IS THAT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM DISTRICT THREE HAS TO GROW.

SO IF WE WERE TO REDISTRICT, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO ADD POPULATION TO DISTRICT THREE BECAUSE IT IS ON THE LOWER SIDE OF THE THRESHOLD.

THAT'S THE EASIEST ANSWER I CAN GIVE YOU BECAUSE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS TODAY, IT'S IT'S REALLY THE ONLY DISTRICT THREE HAS [INAUDIBLE].

SO, SO THEN WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT YOU PROBABLY TAKE SOME OF FOUR, WHICH IS IN THE GREEN, PUT IT IN THREE TAKES SOME OF THE TO PUT IT IN FOUR AND THEN TAKE SOME OF ONE AND PUT IT IN TWO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING FAR OUT EAST IN ONE AND THEN PUT IT IN THREE, THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED RIGHT.

SO THE DISTRICTS DO HAVE TO BE CONTIGUOUS LIKE THEY ARE.

THEY'RE ALL TOGETHER TODAY.

SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS, IS THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, WE LET'S SAY WE MOVE COUNTERCLOCKWISE OR CLOCKWISE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THESE THESE EXERCISES, WE TYPICALLY PROVIDE THE SAME COMMISSION WITH MULTIPLE MAP ALTERNATIVES TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

SO WE MAY PROVIDE THREE OPTIONS OR OPTIONS WHATEVER THE COMMISSION DECIDES AS PART OF THE PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE OF WHERE THE DATA WAS TODAY, WE CHOSE TO PROVIDE THE THE OPTION A OPTION B PROPOSAL.

LOOK AT YOUR DISTRICTS TO SEE IF YOU HAD ENOUGH GROWTH TO WARRANT REDISTRICTING.

AND AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT NEEDED.

BUT AS I MENTIONED, BASED ON THE NUMBERS.

DISTRICT THREE AS IT GROWS SINCE THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS PROPOSED IN DISTRICT THREE, THE GAP WILL GROW BIGGER IN DISTRICT THREE.

SO IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME GROWTH.

SO WHETHER WE TAKE THAT POPULATION FROM TWO OR YOU TAKE THAT POPULATION FROM FOUR, IT'LL BE IN ONE OF THOSE TWO SCENARIOS.

BUT THAT WILL HAVE A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S A TRICKLE DOWN.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

YEAH.

AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S WAY HIGHER BY.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS WANTED THE WOODLANDS.

I'M GOING TO EVENTUALLY LIVE THERE.

SO.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY PATH TO LIVING THERE IS RUNNING FOR MAYOR, WHICH I'M ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT IT.

SO LET'S SEE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I BELIEVE IN 1997 AT ONE POINT, THE WOODLANDS WAS PART OF DISTRICT ONE FOR THE REDISTRICTING WAY [INAUDIBLE].

AND THEN, AS WE DID, I THINK IT WAS 2014 OR 15.

WHEN WE REDISTRICTED IN THAT LITTLE L IN THE ORANGE WAS DISTRICT TWO, BUT IT WAS GIVEN TO DISTRICT FOUR BECAUSE DISTRICT BOARD NEEDED SOME MORE PEOPLE.

DISTRICT THREE NEEDED SOME MORE PEOPLE ON DISTRICT TWO WAS VERY LARGE AT THAT TIME AS WELL, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO SPLIT COMMUNITY OF SPYGLASS IN SOME WEDGEWOOD AS WELL WHEN WE MADE THAT CHANGE BACK THEN.

YOU ALSO HAD SOME CHARTER LANGUAGE IN THE OLD CHARTER THAT WAS MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN IT IS TODAY.

THE LANGUAGE TODAY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD AGAINST THE COMMISSIONER, A LITTLE BIT MORE LATITUDE.

SO BASICALLY, IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE COMMISSION FEELS FOR THE FUTURE AND THE COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS PUT IN.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST BE ONE DISTRICT AND ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS RUN AT LARGE.

THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER TOPIC THAT'S DISCUSSED THROUGH CHARTER CHANGES.

THAT'S NOT FOR THIS TOPIC HERE TODAY.

AND I THINK THAT EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING AT LARGE, YOU STILL HAVE DISTRICTS BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO REPRESENT ACROSS THE CITY.

BUT THAT'S ALSO FOR THE CHARTER BOARD DISCRETION WHEN THAT COMES UP THROUGH THE CITY CLERK WHENEVER THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE.

AGAIN, NOT FOR TODAY.

SO THE BASIC CONVERSATION FOR TODAY IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR THIS COMMISSION TO LEAVE THE MAP AS IS AND REVISIT IT, POSSIBLY IN 2023 OR NOT REVISIT IN 23.

DO SOMETHING NOW OR JUST LEAVE IT ALONE FOR NOW, AND WE'LL DEAL WITH IT WHEN WE DEAL WITH IT.

THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS, CORRECT? OK, AMANDA.

NOW.

SO I WILL ASK.

I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR GELIN WANTS TO LEFT US IS COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

YOU'D BE DOING THE WORK.

SO DO YOU THINK IT'S ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE A CHANGE BY MARCH 2022? BUT WE WE ARE VERY FLEXIBLE, WE CAN BE ADAPTIVE.

YOU'RE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES THAT HAS OPTIONS.

I MEAN, AND I'M SO I'M GOING TO CUT MYSELF ON THE BACK BECAUSE WHEN I DRAW YOUR DISTRICTS, THE LAST TIME OUR NUMBERS WERE SO CLOSE, IT'S A COUNTER FOR A LOT OF THAT GROWTH.

BUT BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE OPTIONS AND YOU'RE IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT OPTIONS.

BUT IT'S A VERY ACCELERATED SCHEDULE.

WITH THE MARCH DEADLINE, THE SUPERVISORS IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE.

I JUST THINK IT MIGHT BE BEST FOR THE MOTION TO APPROVE OUR CITY TO MAINTAIN A PRESENCE THERE.

IS THAT ALLOWABLE IN THE WORKSHOP? I THOUGHT, OK, SO WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE MAP REMAIN THE SAME AT THIS CURRENT TIME? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I'VE GOT A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

BACK AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT, I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

5-0.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ENJOY THE REST OF THE MEETING, BUT THANK YOU, TEAM.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, MOVING BACK TO A CITY MANAGER, GO AHEAD.

YES, MA'AM.

HEY, THERE.

AND SO THIS ITEM WILL HAVE PRESENTATIONS FROM SEVERAL MINUTES, BUT WE WANT IT TO BRING YOU SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL.

[04:20:02]

AS YOU CAN START TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGIC PLANNING EXERCISE IS REALLY TO GET YOUR PRIORITIES TO THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WHAT WE REALIZED, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO THE SURTAX FUNDING AND IF NOT COVERING WHAT WE ANTICIPATED IT WOULD COVER.

IT DEFINITELY RAISES SOME ISSUES FOR US FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF HOW IT CAME FROM SOME OF THESE IMPORTANT PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN EXPECTING.

AND ALSO, HOW WOULD WE SPEND? HOW DO WE PAY FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED WHERE EACH YEAR IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, THE ONLY APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR THIS [INAUDIBLE] ITEMS THAT ARE COMING UP IN THAT YEAR? SO ALTHOUGH IT'S A FIVE YEAR PLAN, THE FUNDING IS ALREADY APPROPRIATED FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

THE OTHER OUT YEARS, WE GET THERE, WHEN WE GET THERE.

SO [INAUDIBLE] OVER TIME FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS, WHAT WE DO FORFEIT.

BUT NOW WE NEED TO JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME UP BECAUSE THINGS ARE CHANGING AT THE CAPITAL.

THE SURTAX ON MONEY? OK.

SO AND THE MARKET HAS CHANGED A LOT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO TALK WITH YOU TODAY HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, TWO YEARS PARTICULARLY, WE'VE BEEN FUNDING ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS STRICTLY OUT OF OUR SAVINGS.

WE DON'T HAVE MONEY BUDGETED FOR THIS YET.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NEW TO THE CITY AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON.

PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE OF OUR REVENUE LOSSES DUE TO COVID.

AND SO WE NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT BECAUSE THE IMPLICATIONS OF PAYING FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AT YOUR FUND BALANCE OVER TIME.

WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THAT, AND THAT IS A FACTOR TO CONSIDER WHAT INSPIRED THAT LENDING.

WHAT'S THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU GUYS WILL SEE IN THE NEWSPAPERS AND ON THE MEDIA IS THAT WE HAVE THIS HIGH INFLATION, WE HAVE INFLATION RATES WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN A VERY LONG TIME VERSUS COST AND PROJECT TO GO UP THE COST EXPONENTIALLY, COUPLED WITH SUPPLY CHAIN BOTTLENECKS AND MATERIAL COST.

SO ALL OF THESE HAVE A CUMULATIVE EFFECT ON THE COST [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF OTHER THINGS.

WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR DEBT SERVICE CAPACITY.

SO WE BORROW MONEY, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY IT BACK OVER TIME, AND WE HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADEQUATELY SPENDING OUR MILITARY SO THAT WE CAN COVER THOSE DEBT SERVICE.

WE HAVE CLASS YEAR WITH US.

THESE ARE FINANCIAL ADVISER PEOPLE WHO TAKE MEDICATION AND STAFF STAFF.

JUST TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR FUNDING AS WE ALREADY HAVE APPROVED IT.

AND THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT THING.

THAT'S WHERE YOU COME IN.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT PRIORITY.

THIS IS A LIFE SAFETY ITEM.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE WILL BE IMPACTED OR HURT.

WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTS EXPECTING? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME.

WHAT'S THE FUNCTION OF THE ITEM? SO THESE KIND OF CONSIDERATION, BY REACTING TO CONSIDERATIONS THEY HAVE, WE PRIORITIZE TODAY.

ALSO, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY PROJECTS WE CAN ACTUALLY DELIVER AT ONE TIME.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CAPACITY TO THE STANDARD AS TO HOW WE PROJECT PLANNING DELIVERY IN A CERTAIN YEAR.

SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.

WE ALSO NEED TO REALIZE THAT IF WE BUILD A NEW BUILDING, WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.

WE HAVE TO STAFF IT.

SO THAT WILL HAVE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET.

AND THAT'S AN ONGOING EXPENSE THAT WILL CARRY ON FOR MANY YEARS WITH THAT PENSION POT OUT THERE.

WE, THE HEART OF THE AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT, PROVIDED FUNDS THAT OFFSET SOME OF OUR REVENUE LOSSES.

AND OUR APPROACH IS TO KEEP THOSE REVENUES AND PAY FOR OUR ONGOING OPERATING COSTS, INCLUDING ON POLICE SERVICES.

AND THAT WILL FREE UP SOME MONEY FOR OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ITEMS. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S AGAIN, IT'S $5 MILLION AND WE HAVE A LIST OF [INAUDIBLE].

ADDITIONALLY, THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL WAS RECENTLY PASSED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, AND THERE SHOULD BE SOME MONEY COMING DOWN FOR DIFFERENT ITEMS. INFRASTRUCTURE BROUGHT IN A LOT OF VEHICLES, WATER PROJECTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THE MONEY DOESN'T COME DIRECTLY TO THE CITIES, HOW SOME OF THESE FUNDS HAVE COME DIRECTLY TO US LIKE ARE AND HERE'S [INAUDIBLE] COUNTY AND CERTAIN CARES ACT FUNDS HAVE DIRECTED THE CITY AS WELL.

BUT THIS IS LIKE THE LAST GRANT PIECE.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY AGGRESSIVE ABOUT SEEKING RENT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO GET ALL OF THEM, BUT IN AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WE WILL BE PURSUING A PLAN.

AND THEN LASTLY, [INAUDIBLE], SO I HAVE MORE TO SORT OF HAVE SOME RECENT DEVELOPMENT THERE.

BUT AS YOU MAY RECALL, PRIOR TO THE OWNERS VOTING TO TAX THEMSELVES EXTRA FOR THESE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, WE WERE TOLD BY THE COUNTY THAT WE SHOULD JUST PROVIDE THE LIST OF PRIORITIES THAT WE WANTED AND THAT THOSE WERE THE PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE FUNDED.

NOW, TWO YEARS LATER, WE HAVE GOTTEN WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD AND THERE ARE OTHER RULES IN PLACE, SO EXPLORATIVE.

SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE THAT ARE AWARE, AND WE WERE COUNTING ON THAT FOR TAX FUNDING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR [INAUDIBLE], NAMELY LARGELY.

AND THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND EVEN IF IT DOES HAPPEN, IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND SAY.

[INAUDIBLE].

AS THE CITY MANAGER INDICATED, WE WERE PLANNING ON A LOT OF THINGS BEING ELIGIBLE FOR SUR TAX FUNDING.

WE SUBMITTED SEVERAL PROJECTS WITH MICHAEL TWO, SUCH AS SOUTH GATE AND PROSPECT ROAD LEVELS, ALONG WITH THE VISION ZERO MASTER PLAN AND THE CROSSWALK FOR THE SCHOOLS ON THE NINTH FLOOR.

WE ALREADY KNOW THAT NO SIDEWALKS AND PROJECTS WERE APPROVED AS THE PART OF THE CCNA SURTAX SUBCOMMITTEE.

WE MET WITH THE COUNTY AND WE LEARNED THAT WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR FIVE YEAR PLAN RIGHT NOW IS HAS UNCOVERED BASICALLY BOTH WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GUARANTEE AS A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TIME THAT THEY GIVE TO THE CITY.

SO AND ACTUALLY, I'VE SEEN THOSE NUMBERS.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THIS IN MAY, EXCITED TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHETHER WE CAN MAYBE AMEND THE HIGHWAYS AND WORK ON THAT END.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANY TAX ON THOSE PROJECTS COMING OVER FROM WHAT WE SEE NOTIFICATION FOR THOSE FOUR PLUS MILLION DOLLARS.

ANOTHER THING THAT BECAME CLEAR IS THE RIGHT TO ELIGIBILITY PROCESSES BASICALLY IS THE ONE IS THE OVERSIGHT BOARD ]INAUDIBLE] ELIGIBILITY.

BUT EVEN AFTER THAT, BROWARD COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE EVALUATES ELIGIBILITY AND AND WHAT THEY JUST HAVE BEEN TOLD LATELY THAT A NUMBER OF STAND ALONE PROJECTS, SUCH AS PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT TIED TO ROADWAYS, SPECIFICALLY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE.

[INAUDIBLE] ARE NOT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THERE ARE, ASIDE FROM THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS AND NOT ELIGIBLE UNLESS THEY'RE ATTACHED TO A ROADWAY PROJECT.

THE SAME WITH MY THE BYPASS ISD IMPROVEMENTS.

MULTITUDES OF LIGHTING PROJECTS AND ANY NEW LANDSCAPING PROJECTS ARE ONLY ALLOWED IF THEY'RE TIED TO THE PORTION OF THE ROADWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE HOPING THAT SURTAX WOULD HELP US FUND THE POWER OR IMPROVEMENTS THAT [INAUDIBLE] WAS ARE A BIG PORTION OF THAT.

DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE IMPROVEMENTS, PARKS KEEPING, STUDENTS KEEPING AND THE THIRD TAX EXCLUDE ANY ITEMS THAT ARE DECORATIVE IN NATURE.

SO THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A POSSIBILITY AT THIS TIME.

[INAUDIBLE] PROJECTS ARE ALSO VERY CHALLENGED, AND THEY HAVE VERY STRICT REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE STUDIES, REQUIRES TO OTHER CRITERIA.

AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE TO BE LINKED TO OUR PROJECT.

SO CERTAINLY FOR A VERY, VERY LIMITED, IT SEEMS AT THIS TIME IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN USE SURTAX MONEY FOR OR AGAINST OUR TAX MONEY FOR OR TO DO ONE OF ELIGIBILITY.

AND TWO IS THE FUNDING THAT'S ALLOCATED THE ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR YEARS TO COME.

THANK YOU, LAURA.

SO NEXT IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT EVENT ITEMS THAT ARE BASICALLY READY TO GO, SO TO SPEAK.

THE MONEY IS NOT APPROPRIATED IN PART BECAUSE OF THE SURTAX FUNDING.

SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUFFER WALL PROGRAM AND THERE THREE BUFFER WALLS THAT ARE READY TO GO.

ONE HAS FUNDING AND THE OTHER TWO DO NOT BECAUSE WE WERE EXPECTING FOR TAX BREAK.

ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE THESE TWO ASSESSMENTS OF WHAT WE EXPECT OF THE BALLS TO COST.

BUT GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE COST ESCALATION, WE JUST WANT TO CAUTION YOU THAT THEY MAY NOT BE EXACTLY WHAT WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE BEFORE.

SO GO AHEAD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

[04:25:01]

FOR THE RECORD, JOHN DOUGHERTY, ACTING DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICES.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, OR THIS PAST SUMMER, OUR BUFFER WALL CONSULTANT CAME IN TO GIVE US AN UPDATE OF OUR PROGRAM AND AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PROGRAM.

TODAY, WE'LL RECAP THAT UPDATE PROVIDED TO US AND GIVE UNITED TAMARAC TODAY AND WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE BUFFER WALL PROGRAM.

OK.

THIS IS A PROGRAM HISTORY, AND IF YOU FOCUS ON A BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S BASICALLY ONE, THREE AND FIVE EXCLUDING PHASE TWO SEE, WHICH IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AT BROCK CALHOUN ROAD PARK COMPLETE, WHICH INCLUDED A APPROXIMATELY 24000 LINEAR FEET OF BUFFER WALL AT A COST OF APPROXIMATELY 18.5 MILLION DOLLARS.

PHASE 2C THAT KATHY MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT'S A FUTURE PROJECT AND PHASE SIX, WHICH IS PROSPECT ROAD AND PHASE SEVEN SOUTH EAST BOULEVARD, ARE CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN.

THESE PROJECTS HAVE HAD AN ORIGINAL BUDGET APPROXIMATELY FOUR POINT NINE MILLION DOLLARS, AND WITH THE COST ESCALATIONS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE'RE THINKING THE NUMBER MIGHT BE CLOSER TO SIX MILLION.

WE'LL GET A BETTER HANDLE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE COSTS OF THE BUFFER WALL PROGRAM WITH OUR NEXT PROJECT BID, WHICH IS SIX.

EXCUSE ME, ONE SECOND, I'M VERY SORRY.

PROCEDURALLY, CITY ATTORNEY, IF WE NO LONGER HAVE QUORUM SITTING IN THIS ROOM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO PROCEED WITH THE MEETING OR DO WE HAVE TO HOLD? THANK YOU.

I'M SO SORRY, I STEPPED OUT OF THE MEETING EARLIER FIVE MINUTES AND THEN I CAME BACK AND WE HAD CONSENSUS ON.

A COUPLE OF ITEMS, SO WE HAVE TO BE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD.

DIDN'T WE HAVE CONSENSUS WITH THOSE ITEMS? WELL, CONSENSUS WITH YOU IN THE RECORD OF THE INVESTMENT, TAKING THE VOTE OUT WAS THE BIGGEST.

WE WE GET CONSENSUS ON SHAKER VILLAGE IN CENTRAL PARK, VSL.

EVERYONE WAS HERE FOR THAT.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU HAD STEPPED OUT COMMISSIONER OK.

THE CONSENSUS IS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE.

THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS INNOVATIVE STUFF [INAUDIBLE].

SO WE'LL BE BRINGING IT BACK? WELL, EVERY EFFORT HAS BEEN ALREADY PROVIDED YOUR CONSENT TO FIND THE SAME THING.

THAT'S WHAT I DID HERE.

OK, SO YOU WANT TO BRING IN.

THEY ALREADY WANTED TO UNVEIL IT TOMORROW? YOU ALREADY WANTED THE MARKET TO.

IT'S ALREADY IN A PRIORITY FOR YOU GUYS IN MY BRAIN TO THE.

YES.[INAUDIBLE].

SO THERE'S A CONSENSUS ON THE.

JUST LIKE THAT, WELL, WE HAVE A FEW MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO DESIGNS THAT HELP REDUCE COSTS, SUCH AS REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE COLUMNS, REMOVING THE TEXTURE AND THE PRIVATE PROPERTY SIDE OF THE WALL AND REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE TO GO ON TOP OF THE PROBLEMS. BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO SEE HOW THE BIDS COME IN FOR PHASE SIX TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF HOW THIS PROCESS ESCALATIONS ARE AFFECTING THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE ONLY A COUPLE OF CONTRACTORS OUT THERE DOING THIS KIND OF WORK, SO WE TYPICALLY ONLY GET TWO OR THREE BIDS FOR A COUPLE OF PROJECTS, WHICH ALSO CAN AFFECT THE COST OF THE PROGRAM.

ON THE BASKETBALL PROGRAM WAS DEVELOPED THAT OF THE 2013 MAJOR MAJOR ARTERIAL CORRIDOR STUDY, DESIGNED PRIMARILY TO PROVIDE BUFFERS BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITIES IMPACTED THAT ARE IMPACTED BY ROADWAY ENCROACHMENTS.

THE TOP PRIORITY OF THE BUFFER WALL THAT CAME OUT OF THAT STUDY INCLUDED PHASE ONE TAMARAC LAKES, WHICH IS ALSO COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD PHASE 2A, WHICH IS MAINLAND SEVEN OFF A COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AGAIN JUST WEST OF THE TURNPIKE PHASE USED TO BE, WHICH IS WOODLANDS ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND COMMERCIAL PHASE THREE, WHICH IS WEST ONE, THREE, FOUR AND SEVEN, WHICH IS MACNAB ROAD BETWEEN PINE ISLAND AND 180TH AND PHASE FOUR, WHICH IS MAINLY APPARENTLY SECTION EIGHT NINE 11 AND 12, WHICH IS BASICALLY 57TH STREET.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP HERE.

THESE LOCATIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AS PHASE ONE OF THE PROGRAM.

PHASE TWO, THE PROGRAM INCLUDES PROSPECT ROAD, AGAIN, THIS IS THE NEXT PROJECT WE HAVE SLATED TO GO UP TO BID IS READY TO GO [INAUDIBLE].

IT WILL BE COMING TO THE QUESTION ON WEDNESDAY FOR APPROVAL ONCE THE RLA IS APPROVED.

AND THAT'S AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO USE A PORTION OF THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THAT PROJECT WILL BE READY TO GO OUT TO BID.

WE ALSO HAVE SOUTHGATE BOULEVARD AND NOB HILL ROAD NORTH OF MCMAHON CURRENTLY.

THAT'S WHY 25 PROJECTS YOU KNOW, NORTHWEST 31ST AVENUE, WHICH IS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, CURRENTLY ALSO CURRENTLY EMPLOY 25 PROJECT IN PINE ISLAND ROAD WEST, WHICH IS THE PARADISE ESTATES COMMUNITY JUST SOUTH OF THE COLONY WEST, ALSO CURRENTLY LISTED AS IN [INAUDIBLE] ALLEN ROAD NORTH, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF JUST SOUTH OF 81ST STREET THAT IS CURRENTLY LISTED AS AN FY 26 PROJECT.

AND FINALLY, ROCK ISLAND ROAD, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COMMERCIAL ADJACENT TO THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY.

THAT PROJECT IS CURRENTLY SLATED AS AN FY 24 PROJECT, AND THERE MAY BE SOME DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTIONS TO THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE WOODLANDS PROJECT WITH BOARD PROSPECT ROAD IN SOUTH GATE BOULEVARD, AS LAURA MENTIONED EARLIER, WERE SUBMITTED TO BREVARD COUNTY FOR SURTAX FUNDING.

AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE DID NOT RECEIVE FUNDING FOR THOSE PROJECTS, AND THE FUTURE SURTAX FUNDING DOES NOT SEEM TO BE A GOOD OPTION FOR US FOR OUR LOCAL PARTNERS.

AND JUST TO RECAP OUR CURRENT FOOTBALL SCHEDULE, THIS PROSPECT ROAD, WHICH IS A PHASE SITE DESIGN, IS 100 PERCENT COMPLETE SOUTH BEACH BOULEVARD, WHICH IS PHASE SEVEN, AND THAT DESIGN IS 75 PERCENT COMPLETE, AND COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD NORTH, WHICH IS TO SEE THAT PROJECT, WAS FUNDED IN 2017.

AS KATHY MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT PROJECT IS FUNDED.

THAT DESIGN IS 75 PERCENT COMPLETE.

AT THIS POINT, WE DO NEED STILL NEED A HANDFUL OF ACCESS AGREEMENTS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTIES TO SEND THEM TO GET THAT PROJECT THAT.

THAT'S IT FOR US.

THANKS, JOHN.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT [INAUDIBLE] DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

AND WITH THIS SLIDE, I'M TALKING ABOUT PARKS.

THE FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

WHAT IF THAT WAS THE SITE OF A PARK FEASIBILITY STUDY? AND AS YOU KNOW, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY CAME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS AS WELL AS THE PROGRAMING.

AND LET'S START OUT WITH THE TOP FIVE ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WITHIN WITHIN THE STUDY AND THAT WAS BASED ON THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AS WELL AS THE ASSESSMENT DONE BY A CONSULTANT.

WHAT WAS THE LAST THING YOU, OUR INDOOR FACILITY OR COMMUNITY CENTER IN OTHER TERMS? LACK OF WALKABILITY TO PARKS? AND WITH THAT, TALKING ABOUT THE IN ESSENCE, THE NUMBER OF PARKS SO THAT NEIGHBORHOODS CAN BE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF OF PARKS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH PASS TRAILS.

AND THEN LASTLY, MISSING ACTIVE RECREATION OF ADAMS. AND AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU ON THE WEST SIDE TAMARAC, WE HAVE THE SPORTS COMPLEX.

SO YOU HAVE FOOTBALL FIELDS, YOU HAVE SOCCER GAMES, BASEBALL GAMES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE TAMARAC, YOU DON'T HAVE, THOSE DON'T HAVE THE SEMANTICS.

SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

FOUR OF THE MAIN PROJECTS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE, AND WE SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE SAME [INAUDIBLE] IN CENTRAL PARK SHAKER VILLAGE AND THEN TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

ONE WAS [INAUDIBLE].

WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THOSE RESIDENTS BEFORE ASK ABOUT UTILIZING THEIR COMMON AREA AND WITHIN THAT COMMON AREA OF DOING SOMETHING SUCH AS A LONG TERM LEASE WITH THAT COMMUNITY SO THE CITY CAN COME IN AND DEVELOP THAT PARK AND OPERATE A PARK THERE.

AND THEN THE TAMARAC NATURE RESERVE, WHICH THE CITY ALREADY OWNS.

WE COULD DEVELOP THAT, BUT ALSO HAVING A PARTNERSHIP WITH TAMARAC LAKES ONE COMMUNITY, TOO ALSO WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT, UTILIZE THEIR COMMON AREA OR SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THE MAIN PROJECTS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE.

ONE OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS WAS THE MEADOWLANDS TO FACE TO DEVELOP MEADOWLANDS PARK PHASE TWO DEVELOPMENT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY I KNOW SOME OF YOU ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IS THAT THEY DON'T WANT THE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PARK.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE AN EXISTING PARK, THERE IS UTILIZE.

WE DON'T NEED TO DEVELOP FURTHER.

BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND STAFF'S THOUGHTS ON THAT IS THAT WE DO HAVE OTHER COMMUNITIES BEING BUILT IN THAT AREA, SO WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT DOWN THE ROAD AND

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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER AS TO WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT.

CURRENTLY, WE DO HAVE IT LISTED IN THIS [INAUDIBLE] I BELIEVE IT'S IN 2020 COUNCILMAN 2025 RIGHT NOW.

SO.

SO THAT IS GOING TO GROW.

WITH WITH DISABLED PALM CASTLE PARK, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEING A PRIORITY EARLIER THE THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PLACED IN THE EAST SIDE, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE LACK OF A COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO IF WE THAT WOULD BE THE ONE PARCEL ON THE EAST SIDE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A SPACE TO INCLUDE A COMMUNITY CENTER.

BUT ONCE WE GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT AND THE AMENITIES OUT THERE, THAT WILL IMPACT THE COST PENALTY, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT.

AND I KNOW THE LAST FIGURE THAT I SAW FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER DEVELOPMENT OR BUILDING DEVELOPMENT WAS CORRECT.

I KNOW IT'S STILL A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT $400 PER SQUARE FOOT FOR A FACILITY OF THAT NATURE.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT AT 10 OR 20000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, EIGHT, POSSIBLY 10 MILLION DOLLARS JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER FACILITY.

SO THAT'S A BIG PORTION OF THAT.

OTHER PARTS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH A DOG PARK, WITH A SPLASH PAD, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND POSSIBLY PUTTING IN AN ACTIVE ELEMENT LIKE A RECTANGULAR FIELD THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE SOCCER AND OR FOOTBALL OUT THERE.

BUT WE DO HAVE SCHEDULED FOR FROM MARCH WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON TO GO OUT TO THE TO THE COMMUNITY AND TALK TO THEM IN MARCH ABOUT ELEMENTS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN COME TO A CONCLUSION AS TO WHAT GETS DEVELOPED OUT THERE.

SO I KNOW THAT BEING SET AS A PRIORITY, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WANT TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PROJECT AND LOOK AT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW [INAUDIBLE] DISCUSSION ABOUT COMMUNITY CENTER THING OF THAT NATURE, BUT THAT WILL BE DEPENDENT UPON THE FUNDING AND HOW MUCH FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SEE FOR THAT FACILITY.

I WASN'T THINKING THAT WE WOULD GET THAT FAR.

IF YOU TELL US THAT IT WAS REALLY JUST AN OVERVIEW AS TO WHAT THE COMMISSION WANTED TO PROCEED WITH, RECOGNIZING THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY EXPRESSED AND THAT WE WOULD BE GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO TALK TO THEM.

SO WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA AFTER THAT MEETING IN MARCH AS TO WHAT THE APPETITE FOR THE COMMUNITY IS AND THEN THAT WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WILL COST.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET THE MONEY FOR IT.

AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT, THE CENTRAL PARK AND ALL WE ARE, WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULE FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING FURTHER AND MOVING FORWARD WITH AND THE OTHER CITYWIDE PARK PROJECTS IN THE WEST CITY.

MANY OF THEM OR ALL OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY IN THE [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT, AND THESE OTHER OTHER PARK PROJECTS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN FEASIBILITY.

BUT THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE EITHER REDEVELOPMENT OR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TAMARAC PARK FIELD LIGHTING REPLACEMENT SITES AND THEN ADDING HALFWAY THERE, THE AQUATICS CENTER SPRAYED AROUND AND SHELTER IN PLACE AND THEN THE SUNSET POINT PARK SHELTER AND BENCH REPLACEMENT.

AND THEN THE REPLACEMENT, A SMALL, SMALL PLAYGROUND AND SPORTS COMPLEX ARE ALL ALL MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.

THE MULTIPURPOSE CENTER IS ANOTHER BIG TICKET ITEM DOWN DOWN THE ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE A REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND A PREMIER FACILITY WITH AN TAMARAC.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COSTS, YOU KNOW, JEFF WILL TALK A LOT ABOUT THIS, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE FOUR EAST SIDE FEASIBILITY STUDY PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED THERE, THE TOTAL FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND THIS IS FROM AROUND $29 MILLION.

SO WE NEED TO DO SOME REALLY GOOD PLANNING TO TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THIS FOR THE CITY.

AND IF I MAY, THAT'S WHY IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO PRIORITIZE CLEARLY THAT IT WILL BE STABLE, SINGLE AND SHAKER VILLAGE TO START WITH BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT DOING ALL FOUR IS FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GET YOUR DIRECTION SO THAT WE CAN BE SETTING EXPECTATIONS CLEARLY FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

WOULD YOU LIKE US TO DO CONSENSUS ON THAT ITEM NOW? SURE.

SO NOT IN THE MOTION FORM.

I'M SORRY, YOUR PREDECESSOR AT SOME POINT SAID THAT THERE IS MONEY ALREADY CARVED OUT IN THE BUDGET.

MAYBE CHRISTINE CAN SPEAK TO THIS BETTER FOR FUTURE PROJECTS THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

[INAUDIBLE] BUT BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD THE FUNDS ENCUMBERED OR FUTURE PROJECTS.

HE SAID THAT YES, I REMEMBER THAT HE SAID IT CLEARLY.

SORRY.

HE SAID THAT THERE IS MONEY FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

HE SAID IT CLEARLY.

AND LET ME SET ASIDE FOR SHAKER BUILDINGS AND THE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE REFLECTIVE OF OUR.

WELL, GREW TO LOVE COMMISSIONER.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SHAKER VILLAGE, THERE'S SOME MONEY SET ASIDE TO CAVE BASED ON A PROJECT THAT WAS DONE THERE, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, BUT.

I THINK I THINK GETTING CONSENSUS RIGHT NOW IS PUTTING THE EGG BEFORE THE CHICKEN OR THE CHICKEN BEFORE THE EGG BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING CONSENSUS ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR AND I THINK THIS IS A HOLDING PATTERN THAT I KEEP TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THESE PROJECTS AND THEN WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT, LET'S GET CONSENSUS, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE CONSENSUS.

LET'S MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT WE'VE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD AND SO WHAT ARE WE BRINGING BACK? WHAT ARE WE MOVING FORWARD? IF, IF, IF IT'S NOT FORTHCOMING? LET'S TALK ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

TALK ABOUT A TIMELINE, WHEN TO START.

WE CAN'T KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS IN A HOLDING FASHION LIKE THIS AFTER THIS CONVERSATION.

IS NOT, BUT BECAUSE, BUT THERE ARE CLEAR THERE ARE REAL QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE REAL RESIDENTS WAITING FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

THEY PASS BY, SHAKE UP THE LAUNCH EVERY SINGLE DAY AND SEE THAT DILAPIDATED BUILDING NOT JUST PEOPLE IN SHAKER VILLAGE, BUT PEOPLE IN THE WOODLANDS.

THEY CALL PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES.

THEY CALL PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND TAMARAC BECAUSE IT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT.

WE CANNOT JUST TALK ABOUT THINGS AND NOT TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING AT THE SAME TIME.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING AT THE SAME TIME.

MAYBE WE CAN TALK TO THE FINANCIAL GUY FIRST BEFORE WE GET CONSENSUS.

BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME FOR TODAY, I WOULD BE HEARING ABOUT MOVING CHICKEN VILLAGE AND SINGLE FARM FORWARD.

RIGHT? WE WE HEARD ABOUT CHICKENS.

WE WE HEARD FROM THE CITY CLERK JUST JUST JUST A WHILE AGO THAT THIS WAS ALREADY SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COMMISSION WANTED TO DO RIGHT AND WE ALREADY HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

WE ALREADY HAVE CONSENSUS THAT THESE TWO PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE PRIORITY, BUT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, LET'S GET CONSENSUS AGAIN.

RIGHT? LET US TRY TO TALK THE FINANCES, THE MONEY PART, SEE IF WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.

WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM AND THEN MOVE IT FORWARD.

AFTER THAT, WE'RE WASTING OUR DAY.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONVERSATION IS JUST THAT.

SO WE ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THEM.

WE WON'T HAVE THE MONEY APPROPRIATED AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IN ORDER FOR US TO DO SO.

WE CAN BORROW WAY.

SO THE FINANCIAL ADVISER WAS INVITED TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN HAND TO DO EXACTLY THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A STANDARD RIGHT NOW, BUT MANAGER THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE ARE ADVANCING AN ITEM THAT WE DO NOT HAVE MONEY FOR.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MONEY.

LET'S TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET FUNDING FOR AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT ADVANCING THE PROJECT.

WE'RE ADVANCING PROJECTS OUT OF THIN AIR.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME.

OK AND CONVERSATIONS LIKE.

OK, I WANT TO SAY I'M PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PROJECTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO EVEN BORROW GUNN BOARD.

SO THE IDEA IS TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IS MORE IMPORTANT SO THAT WE CAN.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT.

LET HER FINISH, PLEASE.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST, BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE PROJECTS AND I KNOW I'M NOT WRONG BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THESE PROJECTS WHEN LORENZO WAS PRESENTING THEM.

THIS IS A SECOND TIME FOR THE DAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS.

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WE GOT IT.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET CONSENSUS AGAIN WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY AND THEN YOU JUST HEARD, WE JUST HEARD WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.

SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MONEY FIRST.

I THINK WHERE OUR PRIORITIES ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE AND THIS MEETING IS OUT, OUT OF OUT OF ORDER.

IT'S NOT ORGANIZED.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FIRST WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS.

COMMISSIONER.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

I'D BE THE ONE THING WITH THAT, THOUGH, I THINK, IS THAT WE HAVE THE CONSENSUS.

WE KNOW WHERE WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE TWO PROJECTS.

WITH THOSE TWO PROJECTS, WE CAN PUT AN AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO THOSE TWO PROJECTS AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT TRYING TO GET THAT AMOUNT.

GREAT.

HAVE AN ACTUAL AMOUNT FOR THESE PROJECTS.

WE HAVE ESTIMATES.

YES.

WELL, SOMETHING KNOW THAT IS GOING TO END UP IN THE PARK.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO BUY.

SO THE FACT IS THAT THE CONVERSATION WAS ORGANIZED IN THIS WAY SO THAT YOU WILL COULD SEE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DESIRED AND YOU CAN TELL US WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT.

SO WE CAN THEN GET THE MONEY AS FAR AS WE CAN GET, BUT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT WE HAVE LARGE BOARD DESIRES THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR AND THE REASON THAT THIS CONVERSATION CAME UP WAS BECAUSE THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOUR RESIDENTS ARE EXPECTING, AND WE HAVE RECENTLY COME TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT BECAUSE WE WERE COUNTING ON SORT OF ACT AS RELATES TO THE PARK PROJECT.

WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BORROW THE MOST, PROBABLY ANYWAY.

SO THAT'S WHY THIS CONVERSATION IS HAPPENING NOW, BECAUSE RATHER THAN EVERYBODY THINKING THAT THERE'S MONEY FOR STUFF THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

I WANTED TO CORRECT THAT RECORD SO THAT YOU WERE CLEAR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO BUILD AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY.

SO ALONG THOSE LINES, WE HAVE ORDER IMPROVEMENT AND THAT SEEING IS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE THINGS TO.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST TO ADD TO THOSE DESIRES, THERE ARE A FEW MORE THAT COULD BE RELATED TO CAR IMPROVEMENTS.

YOU HAVE A GOOD HARDWARE DESIGN PLANS AT ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, AND THOSE ESSENTIALLY ARE DOCUMENTS THAT WILL HELP US TO VISUALIZE WHAT OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS WILL LOOK LIKE, ONCE BUILT.

THIS, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE GONE AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HE'S ADOPTED SINCE THAT REALLY IS THE GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT FIRST NEEDS TO BE ESTABLISHED BEFORE WE GO INTO ACTUALLY DESIGNING OUR PARTNERS.

THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MAJOR ARTERIAL CORRIDOR STUDY, ARTERIAL CORRIDOR STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2014.

THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT REALLY IMPLEMENTS THE BUMPER WALL, THE SIGNAGE PROGRAM.

WE WERE HOPING TO GET CERTAIN TAX FUNDING FOR THE DECORATIVE LEVERS AND CROSSWALKS, BUT I SAID BY LORA, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO WE NEED TO CONSIDER ANOTHER ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT PROJECT.

FOR CONSULTANT IS IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING OUR ADA TRANSIT ACCESS AND SIDEWALK GAP ANALYSIS PLAN.

THAT DOCUMENT ALLOWS US TO IDENTIFY WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE BETWEEN TRANSIT AND SIDEWALKS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A HUGE PRICE TAG.

TOGETHER, IT'S ABOUT $39 MILLION, WITH 50000 JUST FOR ADA IMPROVEMENTS, BUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT FOR THE BICYCLING MOVEMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT $36 MILLION.

AND FINALLY, IT MASTERCARD, WHICH WE ADOPTED IN 2020, AND WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT.

THE PLAN IDENTIFIES SIX CLASSIFICATION ROLLING IMPROVEMENTS AND TOTALS ABOUT $41 MILLION TO IMPLEMENT TOGETHER AND BROKEN DOWN IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND FOCUS ON TRUSTEE KEY INTERSECTIONS AND OUR GATEWAY IMPROVEMENT.

THAT ALONE IS $36 BILLION TO IMPLEMENT AND THEN OUR LOCAL ROADWAYS AS AN ADDITIONAL $5 BILLION TO IMPLEMENT TOGETHER IS APPROXIMATELY FORTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS.

IF YOU CAN GET THAT.

OK, CITYWIDE RESURFACED IN A BAR LAST RESURFACING PROGRAM WAS COMPLETED IN BETWEEN 1997 AND 2007, WHICH IN SOME CASES NEARLY 20 YEARS OLD AT THE COST OF APPROXIMATELY $18 MILLION.

IT WAS AN AGING CONDITION OF OUR ROADWAYS TODAY.

A NEW RESEARCH PROGRAM IS [INAUDIBLE] ESTIMATED COST OF SERVICE.

THE ENTIRE CITY NETWORK ROADWAY NETWORK IS $40.5 MILLION.

AS YOU KNOW, MAINLAND'S ONE THROUGH FIVE, AS YOU MAY KNOW AT THE MAINLAND'S ONE THRU FIVE HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE SURTAX, COVERING 2.8 MILLION DOLLARS AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WAITING FOR THAT FUNDING TO BE RELEASED SO WE CAN GO OUT TO BID FOR THAT PROJECT.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUBMIT RESEARCH AND PROJECTS TO THE SURTAX PROGRAM, BUT FUNDING THROUGH THAT PROGRAM IS NOT GUARANTEED.

IT'S VERY UNCERTAIN.

WE'RE ALSO CURRENTLY COMPLETING A CITYWIDE PAVEMENT CONDITION SURVEY, WHICH IS TO PROVIDE US WITH THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX NUMBER FOR EACH SEGMENT OF OUR ROADWAY.

WITH THIS INDEX NUMBER WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO OBJECTIVELY PRIORITIZE OR RESEARCH [INAUDIBLE] PROGRAM.

THANK YOU.

IT.

NO.

IT'S GOOD ASSISTANCE TO THE MARKET AND THERE'S OK, SO THE CITY'S SECURITY MASTER PLAN USER ERROR GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

OK, SO SIR, YOU ARE.

THE MASTER PLAN WAS CONDUCTED IN 2015, AND SINCE THEN, OVER TIME THE ADDITION OF THAT PROGRAM.

IT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED IN THREE PHASES.

SO WE'RE JUST ABOUT THE FINAL TAIL END OF THAT PHASE ONE, WHICH INCLUDED A LOT OF CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, ACCESS CONTROL OF DOORS THAT DIDN'T EXIST AND SO NOW WE'RE ALSO PLANNING FOR PHASE TWO.

PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE I'VE D SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT THE REMAINING PART OF OUR NATION'S SECURITY MASTER AND THEN THE ESTIMATED PRICE TAG FOR THE REMAINING TWO PIECES.

AT THIS YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR 22, WE PUT IN SOME MONEY TO EVALUATE SPENDING BY ROCKETS FROM ROCK ISLAND TO [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT PROJECTS IN THE AREA THEIR PLAN AND TAKE FIBER OPTIC WIRE FROM ROCK ISLAND TO FEDERAL HIGHWAY.

SO THE CITY LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE RECOGNIZES THAT FIBER NEEDS TO BE IN THE GROUND WHEN THE SAW GRASS ALL THE WAY OUT AND SO WE HAVE COMPETING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE ANVIL AND THE EFFORT TO DETERMINE IF THE CITY DOES THIS STUDY.

WILL THEY EXTEND THE FIBER SO THAT THE WHOLE CITY IS CALM? AND THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE THE WAY IF YOU WERE EVER TO HAVE LIGHT RAIL OR SOME KIND OF MASS TRANSIT, THIS WILL DRAG ON FOR A.

SO WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THAT AND HOPEFULLY THIS MILLION DOLLARS WOULD NOT BE A CITY EXPENSE.

THE WHOLE INTENT OF US DOING THIS STUDY UP FRONT WAS TO SHOW THE COUNTY AND STATE WHY IT SHOULD BE FUNDED AS PART OF THEIR PROGRAM, THE NEXT.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT FOR THE CITY THAT COULD BE A REAL GAME CHANGER.

IT'S THE POLICY, BUT AT THE FIRE STATION, BOARD GUNN, VSO CITY HALL AND POTENTIALLY AT THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.

SO THIS IS A LONG, LONG TERM PROJECT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT AND WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A BOND, BUT ALSO IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

SO THIS IS A LARGER PROJECT.

LIKE I SAID, THAT'S FURTHER OUT, BUT COULD POTENTIALLY BE VERY GOOD FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO ANY CITY OWNED PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE.

THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARK TO REDEVELOP THEM TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND PROVIDE THE CITY WITH SOME FUNDING.

OK, AND THEN UTILITY JOHN WILL JUST TALK ABOUT UTILITIES AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE [INAUDIBLE] THAT AND JUST QUICKLY, EVERYONE KNOWS, I BELIEVE EVERYONE KNOWS TO OUR DESIGN CONTRACT WE HAVE GOING NOW AND IN THE VARIANCE JUST CAME THROUGH RECENTLY THROUGH THE CITY COMMISSIONER.

WE ARE WORKING ON THE DESIGN OF THE NEW WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THIS FACILITY IS CURRENTLY ABOUT 75 PERCENT, COMPLETE WITH A PRICE TAG OF ROUGHLY $20 MILLION.

SOME OF THIS MONEY CAN COME FROM OUR STONEWORK ALONE BECAUSE AS PART OF THE PROJECT, WILL BE DOING A STORM WATER MASTER PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE COMPLEX, WHICH IS THE COUNTY REQUIREMENT, AND WE CAN USE SOME STORM WATER FUNDS TO PAY FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE REST OF THE MONEY WILL COME FROM OUR UTILITIES ACCOUNT AND I THINK JEFF WILL BE ADDRESSING THIS AS WELL IN HIS PRESENTATION.

OK, SO BASICALLY, THAT'S THE VIEW OF ALL OF THE BIG QUESTIONS THAT HAVE LED IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BIG WISH.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE IN THE CITY OVER MANY YEARS AND SO THE POINT OF THIS CONVERSATION IS REALLY TO SAY THIS IS THE BIG LIST.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO FOR US? AND SO JACK IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL MONEY YOU NEED TO BORROW IN ORDER TO DO IT.

SO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER BOLTON IN THE ROOM SO WE CAN PROCEED.

I GUESS I SHOULD LET YOU KNOW.

I HAD ASKED EARLIER BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE HE'D LEFT EARLIER AND YOU'D STEPPED OUT.

WE DON'T NEED A FOR THE DISCUSSION.

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YOU CAN STILL CONTINUE WITH THIS DISCUSSION.

THE ONLY ISSUE THAT HAPPENS IS THAT WHEN THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT COMMENTS THAT HE'S MAKING NOW WILL NOT BE HEARD AND WE'LL HAVE TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION AGAIN.

LET'S TAKE A STRETCH.

SO HOW MANY DID YOU? WE ARE HERE TILL 2:30.

ARE WE ABLE TO EXTEND? ARE WE GOING TO NEED TO EXTEND THE TIME? MY CONCERN IS PEOPLE HAVE MEETINGS AFTERWARDS.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, BUT AS AFTER THIS PLAN, WE HAVE SEEN SOME KIND A DATE AND SO BASICALLY AFTER COULD ITEM WERE MOSTLY DONE WITH STAFF.

WE'RE BACK IN NOW, SO WHY DON'T WE JUST IF THAT'S OK? PLEASE PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

I THINK IT'S STILL ON US.

STILL ON.

SOMETHING GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY.

THE RECORD ON JEFF LARSON, FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE CITY WITH LARGE CONSULTING SERVICES, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE EVERY YEAR.

CITY MANAGER AND STAFF.

[INAUDIBLE] I'VE GONE THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THIS.

SOME OF THIS WAS NEWS.

I'M GLAD I KIND OF WENT AFTER THE PRIOR PRESENTATION.

IT IS NOT OUR JOB TO PICK THE PROJECTS.

IT IS OUR JOB TO HEAR WHICH PROJECTS ARE A PRIORITY FOR THE COMMISSION AND THEN GIVE HOPEFULLY SOUND FINANCIAL ADVICE AS THE MAYOR IS DEALT WITH FOR YEARS AND SOME ALSO TO TRY TO LEAD YOU INTO SOME DIFFERENT WAYS.

AT LEAST SOME OF THESE PROJECTS CAN BE FINANCED.

WE HAVE A POWERPOINT I PUT TOGETHER, SO WE JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO THAT.

WHAT POINT IS SOMETHING? OK, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME GENERAL FUND PROJECTS IN WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY PROJECTS.

GENERAL FUND PROJECTS ARE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT PROJECTS THAT YOU BUILD SOMETHING AND IT GENERATES INCREMENTAL REVENUE TO PAY FOR THEM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE INNOVATIVE AND WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST FOR THIS.

THE CITY IS DOUBLE-A RATED, SO IT'S VERY HIGHLY REGARDED BY THE RATING AGENCIES AND SO THE COMMISSIONER HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE, VERY SOUND, AND ITS JUDGMENT INCLUDES SOME GOOD ADVICE FOR OURSELVES AND OTHERS TO TRY TO FOCUS ON THE PROJECTS THAT PROVIDE VALUE TO THE CITY, BUT YOU DETERMINE THE PROJECTS AND WE DON'T WANT TO.

WASTE WATER, AS MENTIONED BY THE UTILITY DIRECTOR, ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE WATER AND WASTEWATER REVENUES THAT ARE LIKELY IN THIS PART.

I JUST HEARD THAT THE BUILDING CAN ALSO BE PARTIALLY FUNDED BY STORM WATER, AND STORM WATER MAY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT BUILDING.

SO THOSE ARE MORE LIKE BUSINESSES.

YOU KNOW, THOSE WON'T BE SUBJECT TO RATE STUDIES THAT CHRISTINE AND I WILL REVIEW AND PARTICIPATE IN AND THOSE PROJECTS TEND TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES THROUGH RATES, EXISTING RATES, INCREASED RATES, INFLATIONARY RATES, NEW CUSTOMERS ON THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.

THAT WOULD BE A VERY BIG THING FOR THE CITY.

YOU'VE NOT GROWN YOUR WATER WASTEWATER CUSTOMER BASE FOR YEARS, SO I THINK THE CUSTOMER, AS KATHLEEN GUNN TALKED ABOUT, IS VERY IMPORTANT.

SO LET ME JUST GET INTO AND I'M TALKING QUICKLY.

SO JUST ABOUT MY BACK TO TURN TO YOU I APOLOGIZE.

THAT SCREEN MIGHT BE EASIER FOR YOU TO READ BECAUSE IT'S FULL SCREEN.

EXCUSE ME.

THAT'S JUST SHARING THAT ONE'S A FULL SCREEN VERSUS THAT ONE IS PARTIAL SCREEN.

IF YOU SHOULD NEED IT, THAT'S ALL.

NO BIG DEAL.

YEAH.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL SEE MY DAUGHTER PUT THESE TOGETHER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'LL LOOK UP HERE UNTIL WE GET THERE, SO YOU CAN ADJUST THOSE IN THE BACKGROUND.

OK, SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT CAPACITY, SOME THOUGHTS.

HOW MUCH CAN YOU BORROW WHEN MY WIFE KNOW TO LOOK AT A HOUSE? I TOLD A REAL ESTATE AGENT, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET IS THIS WE CAN AFFORD THIS MUCH OF A HOUSE THAT WORKED WELL.

THE FIRST DAY, SECOND DAY I WAS TIED UP, I DID NOT ATTEND AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE THIRD DAY I WAS LOOKING AT HOUSES I COULDN'T AFFORD.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER BOLTON MENTIONED THAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD, I THINK PROJECTS THEY GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THEM.

IT'S OUR JOB TO HELP YOU COME UP WITH IDEAS AS TO HOW TO STUDY THEM.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR POSITION IS.

IT'S THAT CAPACITY.

THE ABILITY TO BORROW IN THE MUNICIPAL WORLD IS REALLY A TWO-FOLD THING.

THERE ARE FINANCIAL COVENANTS ON THIS CITY WHEN YOU BORROW AND YOU HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THOSE.

THERE'S ONE CALL AT COVENANT WITH THE BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE FROM LEGALLY AVAILABLE NON AD VALOREM REVENUES.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT IS A PROMISE TO PAY FROM ALL REVENUES OF THIS CITY AND THE GENERAL FUND, OTHER THAN THE PROPERTY TAXES AND SPECIFIC GRANTS THAT YOU'LL USE FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

WHAT DOES IT NOT INCLUDE? DOES NOT INCLUDE PROPERTY TAXES.

SO IT'S ALL YOUR NON AD MORE REVENUES AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AS A DOUBLE-A GREATEST CITY TO BUDGET AS A CORPORATION CAN BUDGET TO PAY FOR DEBT SERVICE THAT GIVES YOU A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY VERSUS A SMALLER CITY.

DECLINE OF OURS MIGHT HAVE TO PLAY SPECIFICALLY THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE TAX OR THEIR FRANCHISE FEES OR SALES TAXES.

YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT HERE.

YOU HAVE FLEXIBILITY.

YOUR CFO HAS FLEXIBILITY WITH CITY MANAGERS AND BUDGET.

HOW DO I USE ALL THESE REVENUES TO PAY FOR THAT? WE DID THAT IN 2018.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

YOU HAVE PLENTY OF CAPACITY ON THAT BASIS.

THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON A PRIORITY TO PAY OTHER THAN PUBLIC SAFETY AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

YOU KNOW, YOU BUDGET NEXT PAY FOR DEBT SERVICE, REALLY, BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS IN YOUR BUDGET AFTER THAT.

SO AS CHRISTINE MENTIONED, WE LOOK AT THE COVENANT YOU HAVE LIKE FIVE OR SIX TIMES COVERAGE, OK? BUT WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR 2020 AUDIT, PRELIMINARY MAYBE 2021 RESULTS, YOU BASICALLY DON'T HAVE THAT EXCESS REVENUES IN THE GENERAL FUND OTHER THAN YOU'RE ADDING TO FUND BALANCE AND USING SOME OF THOSE TO PAY FOR PROJECTS.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT WE CALL A PAY AS YOU GO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ITEM AREA IN YOUR BUDGET.

OK.

SO YOU KIND OF FULL WITH THE EXTENT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ADDING TO FUND BALANCE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I THINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS HELPED YOU THIS YEAR.

I DON'T HAVE THE DATA ON THAT YET.

CHRISTINE TOLD ME NOT TO SAY, EVEN IF I KNEW.

SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE THE 2021 RESULTS.

SO WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL HOW WE ADDRESS THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET LIKE A MORTGAGE.

YOU ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO REFINANCING YOUR EXISTING DEBT.

WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST FOR THAT FOR THE CITY WHERE THE HISTORICALLY LOW RATES.

YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXISTING DEBT IN THE GENERAL FUND.

THERE'S NO GO DEBT IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC THAT'S PAID OFF A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

THE COMMUNITY CENTER I THINK, ON COMMERCIAL.

I REMEMBER HISTORICALLY, BUT THERE ARE WE DO HAVE A 2013 ISSUE AND IN 2013 18H ISSUE.

THERE MAY BE AN ABILITY TO REFINANCE THE 2013, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AND THERE'S OTHER AVAILABLE REVENUES.

YOU'RE NOT USING GO BONDS.

IT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT COMES TO THE MIND FOR YOU.

THE SURTAX, I GUESS, HAS COME AND GONE.

I DID NOT HAVE A VOTE IN THAT, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

LET'S MOVE SOME OF YOUR PROJECTS TO WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THIS COVENANT TO BUDGET APPROPRIATE CAPACITY THAT YOU HAVE BOTH ON A BUDGETARY BASIS AS WELL AS CASH FLOW BASIS? OK, SO.

YEAH, THAT'S ONE CHANGES FASTER AND THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT.

IF YOU LOOK TO ALL THE WORLD THE SAME, NOW THIS IS THE EXISTING DEBT, WHICH I MENTIONED IN 2000 THOUSAND 18, THE CITY ISSUED ABOUT $18 BILLION IN BONDS.

THAT WAS YOUR INITIAL.

I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY.

I APOLOGIZED PHASES WHAT THOSE PHASES WERE, BUT THAT INCLUDED A LOT OF YOUR SOUND WALLS INITIALLY WHICH I SEE NOW IN THE MATH.

THANK YOU.

I CAN DRIVE THE SAFE DRIVE HOME.

I CAN GO SEE A COUPLE OF THOSE.

YOU DID A FIRE STATION.

IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET FAR APART AND WE HAD TAMARAC VILLAGE STARTING IN APRIL OF 2008.

WE WERE ASKED TO HELP COME UP WITH A FINANCING VEHICLE, WHICH IS A LINE OF CREDIT TO HELP BRING THAT LAND TOGETHER FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE, NONE OF WHICH WANTED TO DEAL WITH THE CITY A NICE PROFESSIONAL MANNER.

HOPEFULLY NOT IN THE ROOM.

SO OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS WERE RETAINED TO HELP DO THAT, THAT LAND BECAME UNDER CONTROL.

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IT WAS REDESIGNED.

WE THAT'S NOW TAMARAC VILLAGE.

I DROVE THROUGH THERE TODAY.

VERY PLEASED TO SEE ALL THOSE BUILDINGS GOING UP RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S VERY STRONG.

WE'LL GET AN UPDATE ON THE COMMERCIAL MAYBE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT THAT IS A NOTE THAT IS UNDER A GROUND LEASE.

WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AND TALK ABOUT THAT CAPACITY BECAUSE IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE CITY.

IS THE PLAN OF THAT TPP, VERY SUCCESSFUL TPP THAT THEY HAVE THE OPTION, WHICH IS A VERY FIRM OPTION.

THEY HAVE TO EXERCISE AT SOME POINT TO BUY THE LAND FROM THE CITY, WHICH WE WOULD USE TO PAY OFF THE NOTE.

SO THIS IS LIKE A BRIDGING VEHICLE TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER AND ALL THE VERTICAL NEEDS UNTIL IT CAN BE PAID OFF AND WE ASSUME THAT'S THE CASE.

IF THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE PLANNING HORIZON, BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE MINUTE THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH CHRISTINE TO REFINANCE AT EXTENDED AND GIVE IT SOME MORE TIME, WHICH WE'VE DONE, I THINK TO [INAUDIBLE] ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, THE EXISTING DEBT WE SEE, THERE'S NO GEO BONDS UP THERE AND ANY FOR A CITY YOUR SIZE.

THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF OTHER ASSETS.

OH, OK.

SO I MENTIONED THERE'S NO JUST GENERAL FUND BACK.

SO WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT YOUR PROJECTS TODAY? AND WHAT WE'VE ANALYZED TODAY IS THERE'S ONE THING THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO FOR THIS FACILITY, FOR THIS BUILDING AND FOR THE PARK BARN, WHICH I THINK IS OVER THERE.

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, WHICH IS A GREAT THING AS A CITY TO BE THE INTERNAL LENDER, THE STORM WATER, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT TO THIS PROJECT AND SO STORM WATER, THE STORM WATER ASSESSMENTS WEREN'T DEVISED TO DO THAT.

SO THE AGREEMENT WAS MADE SO LONG AS WE DO THAT STORM WATER, THAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE PRACTICE, ACCORDING TO THE ATTORNEYS AND OURSELVES, WE HAD TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE RAINY SEASON BANKS.

THAT PROJECT NOW IS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETE, I THINK, TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO PAY THAT BACK.

CHRISTINE WILL GIVE US THE FINAL NUMBERS.

ITS PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF 5.2 SOMETHING PLUS OR MINUS IN INTEREST TO RESTORE STORM WATER THAT HAS TO OCCUR HERE FAIRLY SHORTLY.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF WHAT WOULD BE A PROPOSED COVID APPROPRIATE BOND ISSUE AND THESE ARE LONG LIFE ASSETS.

SO I SAY BONDS.

WE SLOW DOWN NEW GUNN BANK ISSUES.

YOU'VE DONE BOND ISSUANCE.

WELL, THIS IS NOT A FIVE YEAR PARK THAT WE'RE STANDING.

SO THIS IS VERY OPEN TO THE BOND FINANCING OR EQUITY FINANCING YOUR HOUSE OR YOUR MORTGAGE.

IT LOWERS THE DEBT SERVICE.

IT'S TYPICALLY DONE FOR FACILITIES LIKE THIS.

IT WOULD BE TAXABLE BECAUSE THERE'S A THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT YOU HAVE BE PARTNERED WITH THEM.

RATES ARE LOW, THAT'S NOT A PUNITIVE THING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

THE NEXT THING I KNEW THAT I WENT THROUGH YOUR CFP WITH YOUR STAFF AND I HEARD MORE ABOUT THOSE.

TODAY, I'M GOING TO CALL IT ROUND TWO OF SOUND WALLS AND THAT'S CORRECT, BEIJING AND APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT WE LOOKED AT THE ONES ON SOUTH STREET AND PROSPECT ROAD, AND WE TOTALED ABOUT TEN POINT TWO BILLION.

THE THING FOR US, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS THE TIMING.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT'S READY TO GO.

WE DON'T.

WE ONLY GIVE YOU THE MONEY AS YOU SIT THERE AND YOU'RE NOT TO EARN MUCH INTEREST.

JOURNEY WAS ON, SO THOSE PROJECTS WERE PRETTY WELL DESIGNED, READY TO GO.

THE FIRST DOWN WALLS WERE SUCCESSFUL.

I UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT RELATES TO IN TERMS OF INCREASE AND PROPERTY VALUES, BUT WE SEEM TO BE GOOD THINGS TO THE CITY AND TO THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA AND PROVIDE VALUE TO EVERYBODY.

SO I THINK WE'RE SEEING ALONG WITH THAT WOULD BE A KEY PART OF THE NEXT FINANCING THE GENERAL MARKET.

SO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF CURRENT CAPACITY, YOU HAVE SOME CAPACITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.

ALLISON SAMUELS BOARD LONG TERM IS GO OUT.

THE GOOD THING IS RATES ARE STILL AT HISTORIC LOWS.

I WILL TELL YOU TODAY I WAS DRIVING DOWN AND DOWN, DOWN 500 POINTS TODAY, AND NOW THE MARKET'S ESTIMATING YOUR RATES WILL INCREASE THREE OR FOUR TIMES THIS YEAR.

SO INFLATION, WHICH WE TRACK VERY CAREFULLY, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD WORD FOR BOND RATES, HAVE BEEN, THEY THOUGHT UNREALISTICALLY HIGH BECAUSE OF THE BLOCKAGES AND THE AND THE PANDEMIC, BUT WOULDN'T THEY EXPECT ON WEDNESDAY CPI TO COME OUT OF OVER SEVEN PERCENT? AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT NUMBER IS COMING DOWN.

OK, SO RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, RATES WILL GO UP OR DOWN OR STAY WHERE THEY ARE, AND I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THAT CAN TELL YOU MORE THAN THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I KNOW THEY'RE HISTORICALLY VERY, VERY, VERY LOW.

SO THE TIME TO DO SOME OF THIS FINANCING ON THESE THINGS, PAY BACK STORM WATER AND DO YOUR NEXT TOWN HALLS.

I THINK CHRISTINE ARE TALKING ABOUT, IS THIS A GOOD TIME TO DO IT? BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING VERY, VERY GOOD GRADES.

YOU'RE WELL REGARDED BY THE UNDERWRITING COMMUNITY AND THE RATING AGENCIES AND WE'VE ANALYZED THAT IN SOME NUMBERS SHARED WITH STAFF, AND WE THINK THAT'S AFFORDABLE.

WE ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE.

WE COULD ALSO SPEND A LOT OF TIME SAYING THAT THIS GOLF COURSE WILL HELP PAY FOR ITSELF AND HELP PAY FOR THE $6 MILLION PIECE OF THAT BOND ISSUE, BUT EVEN IF IT DOESN'T HAVE THE VALUE THAT TAXES GOING UP, YOU KNOW IT'S CONTRIBUTING NOW.

IT'S ON THE ON THE TAX ROLL APPROVED BASIS, THE HOTEL AND THINGS.

HOPEFULLY, ONCE IT GETS ALL DONE, THE TOWN HALLS ARE READY TO GO AND COMPLETE IT.

YOU HAVE A GOOD HISTORY WITH US.

WE DID THE FIRST TOWN HALL THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A HISTORY OF WHAT THAT WOULD DO.

WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A POTENTIAL FINANCING OF ABOUT SIX MILLION PLUS OR MINUS TO PAY BACK TO OUR WATER PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST AND ROUGHLY 10 MILLION FOR SOUTHGATE PROSPECT ROAD JUST ON THE OTHER [INAUDIBLE] RATES ARE VERY, VERY LOW, EXPECTED TO BE LOW IN THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND YIELDS INVESTORS IN THE FIRST YEARS ARE ON POINT FIVE, FOUR PERCENT.

YOU'VE GOT 30 YEARS, YOU'RE STILL JUST ABOVE THREE PERCENT, AND MOST OF US REMEMBER RATES GOING FROM TWO TO SIX PERCENT, TYPICALLY FOR 30 YEAR BONDS.

SOME OF THE OLDER PEOPLE AROUND, LIKE THEY'RE LIKE, YOU SURE OF THAT.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS I WOULD RECOMMEND.

THE AVERAGE DEBT SERVICE ON BOTH OF THE TAX OFFICE AND THE TAX INCREASES AROUND EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH IS SPLIT BETWEEN THE SOUND WALL PEACE AND THE COMMON U.S.

PROJECTS HERE.

OK.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE OTHER PROJECTS? WELL, I KIND OF STOPPED THE DISCUSSION WITH STAFF ONCE I GOT THE OLD COMPAQ TAMARAC, NATURE PRESERVE AND SHAKER VILLAGE AND THEN CITY MANAGER, SAID GENERAL, WE GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.

I SAID, OK, LET'S KIND OF TAKE THESE IN PHASES AND CAN AS A SUGGESTION AND YOUR BEST, YOUR BEST FORM OF FINANCING ON THOSE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WATER WASTE.

OUR MANAGEMENT WOULD BE GOMEZ.

YOU HAVE NO GO BONDS.

HERE'S THE BEEN THE BAD NEWS THIS REQUIRES A REFERENDUM.

THIS IS NOT JUST A CITY COMMISSIONER VOTE THAT YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD SHOULD THE CITY COMMISSION WANT TO DO THESE PROJECTS AND WE RAN SOME NUMBERS BASED ON SIMPLE PALM GOING AROUND TEN POINT SIX MILLION.

I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S NOT EXACTLY PRETTY CLOSE HERE.

SLIDE TAMARAC NATURE RESERVE 6.5 SHAKER VILLAGE, 5.7, THAT'S ABOUT TWENTY TWO POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS.

THESE PROJECTS, AGAIN, YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE THE PROJECT TO FOR A DIFFERENT ONE, AND IT'S REALLY UP TO THE COMMISSION, BUT YOU WOULD GO TO THE VOTERS AND ASK FOR THEIR APPROVAL FOR THEM TO BE TAXED AT A NOT SUCCEED TERM.

TYPICALLY 30 YEARS AND NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT EVERY YEAR AT THE LOWER AMOUNT MILITARY AND THE DEBT SERVICE ON THIS ON A 30 YEAR BOND.

IF YOU DID, JUST THOSE THREE PROJECTS WERE MAGICALLY WHAT YOU DECIDED TO DO.

IT'S A LITTLE UNDER $1.2 MILLION.

ONE MILL PRODUCES ABOUT FIVE MILLION TODAY OR THE 2020 AUDIT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WENT UP CHRISTINE CAJUSTE ONLY TWENTY ONE, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

SO THIS IS ABOUT FOUR COMMISSIONER TO THINK ABOUT MAYOR, ABOUT 0.3 MILLS.

SO IF YOU THINK THE CITIZENS OUT THERE WANT THESE THREE PROJECTS OR THREE OTHER PROJECTS FOR THAT AMOUNT, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, THEN YOU WOULD GO, THEN GO TO THEM AND ASK FOR THEIR APPROVAL AND YOU NEED A MAJORITY PLUS ONE PERSON.

I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY I'M GOING TO TALK TO AND SAY, TURN YOUR HEAD ON THIS.

TYPICALLY IN FLORIDA, REFERENDUMS ARE VERY CHALLENGING BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF SOMEBODY'S SUPPORT.

SO IF THERE WAS A WAY TO DO THESE PROJECTS WITHOUT WITHOUT THE GO BOND, I'D BE STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU.

YOU HAVE A LIST OF MANY THINGS AFTER THIS? OK, SO YOUR OTHER OPTION IS THE 2013 BONDS MATURE IN 2027.

SO YOU WANT TO WRITE THAT DOWN IN YOUR NEXT PHASE OF SOMETHING WE'RE NOT

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ADDRESSING TODAY AND KATHLEEN I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS TO YOU ON THE PHONE LAST WEEK AND YOU, CHRISTINE, I HAVE TO GET OVER THOSE PLANS.

PAY RIGHT NOW.

THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE ABOUT A MILLION FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE 2013 BONDS BILL GO AWAY SO WE COULD DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR BONDS AND TAKE OUR PART OF THESE PROJECTS.

THEY WON'T EVEN BEGIN TO ADDRESS THE CORRIDOR OR THE ROAD SURFACING AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT CAME UP AFTER THAT, BUT IN 2027, THE 2013 BONDS ARE GONE AND THAT GIVES YOU CAPACITY IMMEDIATELY, ABOUT $1.5 MILLION.

THAT'S NICE AND THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BENEFIT IF DEBT SERVICE ON A MILLION TO A YEAR GIVES YOU ABOUT TWENTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS OF PROJECTS, YOU CAN SEE THAT 1.5 MILLION USES A LITTLE BIT MORE, EVEN IF RATES ARE HIGHER.

SO BECAUSE WHEN WE REFINANCED ALL YOUR DEBT IN THE PAST, WE NEVER EXTENDED MATURITIES.

IF YOU REMEMBER MAYOR, WE ALWAYS STAYED IN YOUR CURRENT MATURITY AND WE'VE REFINANCED THOSE BONDS FOR A WHILE, SO 2013 WILL GO AWAY.

THE LAST TIME WE DID GO BONDS SUCCESSFULLY IN THE CITY OF VENICE HAD TWO PROJECTS.

THEY HAD A PUBLIC VOTERS TO LIKE SCHOOLS FOR KIDS, OK? THEY LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO THEY HAD SOME ROAD RESURFACING NEEDS THAT WERE PUBLIC SAFETY AND RELATED.

A ROAD WERE BECOMING VERY BAD AND THEY HAD A PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT.

SO WE HAD A PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT, WHICH WAS A COMBINATION OF THE CITY HALL PROJECT SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS A POLICE STATION.

THE LACK OF A BETTER TERM EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME FIRE [INAUDIBLE] AND VENICE IS A VERY WELL RUN CITY.

DOUBLE AA RATED LIKE YOURSELF.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MARKETS THAT THE VOTERS WOULD SAY, YES, YOU ARE ALLOWED UNDER FLORIDA LAW TO EDUCATE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL DO, PROBABLY ON A ONE ON ONE BASIS, IS GET WITH A CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY MANAGER AND GO THROUGH MAYBE WITH EVENTS CITY MANAGER HELPING.

WHAT DO THEY DO TO GET THE CITIZENS AWARE OF THESE PROJECTS IN SUPPORT OF IT? AND I THINK ONE TASK 57 PERCENT ONE PASSED FIFTY FOUR PERCENT AND, YOU KNOW, TIMING IS IMPORTANT.

MATERIALISM REPAIRS GO UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES.

THE IMPORTANT THING IS THE COMMISSIONER LESSON.

I WOULD SUGGEST FREE ADVICE IS TO SUGGEST THAT PROJECTS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO DO AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THEM PUBLICLY, YOU ALL SHOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT THEM AND A FIVE-0 KIND OF DISCUSSION IS THAT THE CITIZENS HEAR ONE PERSON.

FOR MY EXPERIENCE, I'VE BEEN IN FOR IT FOR MANY YEARS.

NOT LIKE SOMETHING IN THE AIR.

COMMISSIONER NOT LIKE IT AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT BILL.

THIS.

THEY DON'T SUPPORT IT.

WHY ARE YOU GOING TO TAX ME? NOBODY WANTS TO BE TAXED.

THE NEXT THING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT WHAT 2.3MILLION MEANS TO AN AVERAGE PERSON WHO'S GOT A $400000 LOAN IN THE TAMARAC AND SOME OF THOSE KIND OF AN ANALYSIS, BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT YOU HAD TO GO GET THIS FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT BUILT THAT PROJECT AND YOU PAID IT OFF.

SO YOU'VE GOT A GOOD HISTORY OF BEING GOOD STEWARDS.

I THINK THAT NEWT GINGRICH HAD THAT CONTRACT FOR AMERICA WHEN YOU HAD THAT HISTORY AND THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THAT.

SO AS FOR AS PROJECT, THIS PROJECT SPECIFIC KINDS OF SPECIFICS AND NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT AND I THINK THAT'S YOUR BEST OPTION TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS OTHER THAN WAITING FOR THE OTHER BONDS TO MATURE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE GENERAL FUND SIDE.

WE'RE TALKING A LOT, NOT BREATHING SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PART? DID IT MAKES SENSE SO FAR? UNFORTUNATELY, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M SORRY.

SO THEY GOT THE PPP.

OR CALLING IT YOU, THE CITY GOT THE PPP ALONE, OR WAS IT [INAUDIBLE] THE COUNTY WAS A PROJECT OF BORROWED MONEY FROM THE STORM WATER FUND AND NOW THIS FINANCING WOULD GIVE FUNDS FOR THE CITY GENERAL FUND TO PAY BACK THE STORM WATER FOR THE SIX MILLION.

WHAT FUND? I DON'T KNOW WHICH FUND.

I DON'T KNOW.

WHERE ARE YOU? WHERE DO YOU PUT COLONY WEST IN THE BALANCE? [INAUDIBLE] IT IS THE GOLF COURSE INSTEAD OF GOING OUT AND PAYING FEES TO PEOPLE LIKE ME AND INTERFACE OF THE BANKS.

THE CITY HAD THE ABILITY TO STORM WATER WATER TO DO THAT AND BROUGHT THAT TO THE COMMISSION.

THE COMMISSION SAID OKAY TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO PAY BACK STORM WATER.

YOU CAN'T HAVE SOMEBODY PAY STORM WATER RATES.

THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.

LIKE, IT'S IMPORTANT THIS PROJECT SO SEEING IN THE SHORT TERM AND BEEN OUT THERE THAT LONG, EITHER.

SO SHORT TERM SECURITY IS.

I JUST THINK THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THIS PROJECT BEING A PPP PROJECT AND I THINK BY [INAUDIBLE] PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

NO, I'M ASKING WHAT FUNDS? HOW DID WE FUND COLONY WEST? BUT I THINK I GOT THE ANSWER FROM STORM WATER.

SO WE WERE ASKED ON THEIR BALANCE SHEET, RIGHT? SO WE WERE WILLING TO TAKE MONEY FROM A STORM WATER FUND TO BUILD COLONY WEST, BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THOSE OPTIONS FOR OTHER PROJECTS.

I KNOW THAT HASN'T COME UP YET, BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT PROMISE WAS MADE SO LONG AS THE COMMISSION ALSO AGREED TO PAY BACK STORM WATER.

SO WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE THE PROJECT'S DONE.

WE NEED TO BE IN A POSITION TO TAKE BACK STORMWATER.

WHAT YOU DO WITH THAT TRUST FUNDS AND OTHER, I'VE NOT EVEN LOOKED AT THAT WITH.

ARE REVENUES FROM COLONY WEST GOING TOWARDS PAYING THAT BACK.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

THESE PROJECTS SEEM TO HAVE VALUE.

SO THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT THINGS ON THE TAX ROLL OVER HERE AND YOU'VE GOT A GOLF COURSE THAT'S DOING BETTER THAN IT WAS, MAYBE CLUBHOUSE, ALL THOSE ALL THOSE THINGS CAN HELP COVER THE DEBT SERVICE.

SO IF THE DEBT SERVICE, WE TELL YOU WHAT IT IS, ACTUALLY THE TOTAL AMOUNT, IT'S ABOUT 300000.

[INAUDIBLE] SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE FOR THE SOUND WALLS AND FOR PAYING BACK STORM WATER IS ABOUT EIGHT HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

OF THAT, THE COUNTY WEST FEES TO PAY BACK STORMWATER IS A LITTLE OVER 300000.

SO THE QUESTION WAS CAN THE CLUBHOUSE AND [INAUDIBLE] HELP PAY FOR THAT? AND IF THERE'S A PROCESS AND IT'S CALLED [INAUDIBLE], WHAT KIND OF ISSUE ONE WAS WE DID HAVE HERE THAT WE ARE COOPERATING ON A PROJECT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAD FUNDING FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] ALSO WENT INTO THE PROJECT, BUT THEN THE LAST PIECE THAT CAME ON [INAUDIBLE] WAS WHERE THE PROJECT MANAGER, [INAUDIBLE] AND WE HAD AN AGREEMENT THAT THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE BORROWED FROM THE STORM WATER FUND, BUT AT THAT TIME [INAUDIBLE] KNOW WHAT [INAUDIBLE] GOING TO BE.

IT WOULD BE UP TO SIX MILLION DOLLARS AND AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM, PART OF IT WAS DONE.

THEN WE WOULD HAVE A BILL AND WE WOULD BORROW THAT MONEY AND PAY BACK THE STORMWATER FUND.

KNOWING THAT STORMWATER REVENUE AND STORMWATER MONEY IS RESTRICTED TO PURPOSE.

IT'S RESTRICTED SPECIFICALLY FOR STORMWATER, AND WE CAN'T USE THAT MONEY FOR ANYTHING ELSE , BUT THE BONDHOLDERS FROM [INAUDIBLE] GAVE US PERMISSION, AS WELL AS THE CITY, THE COMMISSION, THE BORROW MONEY FROM STORMWATER TO BUILD THE BUILDING, KNOWING THAT AT THE END OF THE PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO [INAUDIBLE] PAYBACK STORMWATER.

THAT'S WHY AND WE'LL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THAT, AND WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE STORM WATER, [INAUDIBLE] AND TELL THEM WE'RE PAYING YOU BACK NOW.

THIS IS WHAT WE OWE YOU.

HERE'S YOUR MONEY.

RIGHT, AND THEN JUST TO BE FAIR, [INAUDIBLE] SAY THAT SIX MILLION DOLLARS TO PAY BACK STORMWATER ALONG WITH ANOTHER 10 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE ESTIMATE WOULD BE THE COST OF THE WALL WOULD BE [INAUDIBLE] TO GET A BOND THAT WE WOULD GO FOR KNOWING THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST GONE OFF A SOUND WALL AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE UNDERWRITERS, BY THE BONDHOLDERS, ARE WE ABLE TO GET FUNDING FOR SOUND WALL BECAUSE NOT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE ABLE TO BORROW MONEY FOR.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WE'D NEVER GET [INAUDIBLE] BORROWING FOR LANDSCAPING BUT FOR A BUILDING, [INAUDIBLE] TO GET FINANCING FOR AND THE 16 MILLION DOLLAR [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW.

BUT MY QUESTION WAS, IS COLONY WEST REVENUES PAYING BACK PART OF THAT MONEY? WELL, I WOULD SAY ONE THING AT A TIME WHEN THAT RESOLUTION WAS PASSED, THE COMMONWEALTH WAS NOT PROFITABLE AND WE ESTIMATED THAT USUALLY [INAUDIBLE] IS NOT PROFITABLE, RIGHT? USUALLY [INAUDIBLE] IN THE LAST YEAR, COMMONWEALTH DID MAKE A PROFIT.

WE DID HAVE 279 THOUSAND DOLLARS IN INCOME THAT [INAUDIBLE] EXPENDITURE.

SO [INAUDIBLE].

SO THE [INAUDIBLE] CONTINUES TO BE PROFITABLE THAT INCOME WOULD GO TO [INAUDIBLE] SO THE ANSWER'S YES.

YES, THAT'S THE GOAL.

WE KNOW, THE CITY, IF NOTHING FROM THIS FACILITY, THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO SERVICE THAT DEBT, BUT THE BENEFIT IS YOU HAVE NOW AN ENTERPRISE SYSTEM THAT IS GENERATING PROFITS [INAUDIBLE].

SO THAT'S THE GOAL.

THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE EVERY YEAR, AROUND

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$315-320K.

KATHLEEN, AT SOME POINT, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED WHEN THAT WAS GOING ON THAT WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS.

I DON'T NEED TO TAKE UP EVERYBODY'S TIME NOW, BUT [INAUDIBLE] I DIDN'T HEAR I DIDN'T HEAR THAT THE FIRST PART OF WHAT YOU SAID, I SAID I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER SOME THINGS THAT WENT ON AT THAT POINT [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT BUILDING THIS BUILDING AND BORROWING THE MONEY AND ALL THAT.

I DON'T NEED TO TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME NOW WITH ALL THAT, BUT WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT.

OKAY.

SO AT SOME POINT, THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS [INAUDIBLE] THE SOUND WALLS AND THE STORM WATER, THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY TOLD US HISTORICALLY PAY BACK STORM WATER ONCE THE BUILDINGS ARE COMPLETE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A RECONFIRMATION OF PRIOR COMMISSION, BUT IF YOU WANT TO SOUND WALLS THE NEXT PHASE, THE THING I WAS CRACKING ARE THEY DESIGNED AND READY TO GO AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE READY TO GO THE NEXT PHASE.

THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT BOND FINANCING THAT WE'VE ANALYZED [INAUDIBLE] THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD BE VERY WELL RECEIVED.

THAT WOULD DO THE SIX MILLION PROJECTS THAT CHRISTINE MENTIONED, SIX MILLION FOR STORM WATER AND 10 MILLION FOR THE WALLS [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND.

I TALKED ABOUT THE GEO BONDS.

WE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THOSE THREE PROJECTS I GAVE THE DATA ON THAT I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WE JUST [INAUDIBLE] 10 MILLION TAMARAC NATURE PRESERVE SIX AND A HALF AND SHAKER VILLAGE AT FIVE POINT SEVEN TWENTY TWO POINT EIGHT.

AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS AT THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.

THOSE ARE YOUR TOP THREE OR TOP TWO, YOU TELL US, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE NUMBERS TO STAFF AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE ATTORNEYS TO FIGURE OUT OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THE GEO BOND REFERENCE.

IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THOSE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THOSE ARE KIND OF READY TO GO.

IF THE VOTERS SAY NO, THEN YOU ALMOST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL [INAUDIBLE] ANOTHER REFERENDUM, WHICH IS NOT ADVISABLE TYPICALLY.

OR WE WAIT FOR THOSE 2013 BONDS TO MATURE CAPACITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ABSENT [INAUDIBLE] STATE GIVING YOU A LOT OF MONEY.

OK.

WATER WASTEWATER IS A LITTLE EASIER AND THEN WE HAVE AN ENTERPRISE SYSTEM THAT'S VERY WELL ESTABLISHED IN ITS OWN RIGHT.

[INAUDIBLE] RATE IN ITS OWN RIGHT AND WE LOOKED AT YOUR CIP PROGRAM, WHICH IS VERY DETAILED AND ASK STAFF IDENTIFY THE ONES THAT SEEM READY TO GO AND TWO SEEM PRETTY READY TO GO, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THOSE TODAY FROM A PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT [INAUDIBLE], WHICH CHRISTINE SAYS IT'S READY TO GO SOONER THAN MAYBE EAST SIDE.

EAST SIDE, [INAUDIBLE] AS YOU'RE TRYING TO GO EAST [INAUDIBLE] CUSTOMERS PUT IN NEW LINES, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR UTILITY SYSTEM, BUT I THINK YOU NEED COOPERATION FROM THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT [INAUDIBLE].

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON AN ANSWER FOR THAT ONE [INAUDIBLE] SHOULD [INAUDIBLE].

SO WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IN WATER WASTEWATER IS WE ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT APPROVAL.

WE MARCHED DOWN THE PATH TO GET EVERYTHING IN OUR PROCESS ALIGNED, AND IF THAT APPROVAL DOESN'T COME FORWARD, WE JUST DON'T FINANCE THAT PART OF IT.

THE BOND ISSUE SHRINKS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO STOP START, STOP START.

THAT'S EXPENSIVE FOR EVERYBODY AND ATTORNEYS AND CONFUSE EVERYBODY.

THAT BOND ISSUE IS SUBJECT TO UTILITY RATES STUDY, WHICH I THINK IS UNDERWAY OR WILL BE DONE.

I ASSUME THAT'S A VERY STRONG STUDY OF THOSE PROJECTS IN YOUR CIP, MADAM MAYOR, [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT SIXTEEN POINT EIGHT MILLION [INAUDIBLE] DISTRIBUTIONS, A LITTLE UNDER FIFTEEN MILLION.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THIRTY TWO MILLION, THIRTY ONE POINT SEVEN, ZERO POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS OF PROJECTS.

AGAIN, THESE ARE LONG LIFE ASSETS.

I MAY GET THE ENGINEERS TO TELL ME HOW LONG THEY THINK THE LINES WILL LAST.

MAYBE THE LINES AREN'T 30 YEAR ASSETS, THEIR 20 YEAR ASSETS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT ON A 30 YEAR BOND ISSUE, THAT'S ABOUT $1.5 MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE.

YOU ALSO HAVE EXISTING BONDS OUT THERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF THEY CAN POTENTIALLY BE REFINANCED, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE IN A GOOD POSITION.

SO WHAT IS SOMETIMES HELPFUL IS IF THE STARS ARE ALIGNED AND WE CAN WAKE UP THE ATTORNEYS AND WAKE UP EVERYBODY SAME TIME AND THE RATINGS AGENCIES AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE GENERAL FUND FINANCING WE WANT TO DO, AND HERE'S THE WATER WASTEWATER FINANCING THAT WE WANT TO DO, AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO DO THAT AND EVEN IF WE DON'T RECEIVE A EAST SIDE DISTRIBUTION, WE MAY WANT TO START BOTH AT KIND OF THE SAME TIME.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT'S PRETTY READY TO GO, CHRISTINE.

YEAH, WE'RE AT 65 PERCENT DESIGN COMPLETION RIGHT NOW, AND [INAUDIBLE] BID ON THAT, PROBABLY IN THE SUMMER THIS COMING SUMMER.

OK, AND THE [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, THESE ARE APRIL KIND OF BOND FINANCING TIMEFRAMES APRIL.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SLOW DOWN TO GET CLOSER, BUT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING FROM WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME [INAUDIBLE] THE WATER TREATMENT IS DEFINITELY A GO [INAUDIBLE] TO SEE IT GO [INAUDIBLE] START ON THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ON THE WATER MAIN EXTENSION OUT EAST, UNLESS THEY GIVE US THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN.

SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S VERY MUCH UP IN THE AIR.

OKAY, WELL, THE ONE PROJECT BY ITSELF IS LARGE ENOUGH TO WARRANT A BOND ISSUE.

USUALLY, WE DO BONDS FOR $10 MILLION ABOVE, SO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AT SIXTEEN POINT EIGHT CARRIES ITSELF.

SO IF THE PROJECT WAS A LOT SMALLER IN DOLLAR AMOUNT SIZE, WHEN WE LOOK AT BANK FINANCING OPTIONS TO [INAUDIBLE], SO THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE THREE YEAR PLAN PRICE TAG IS TWENTY MILLION PLUS.

[INAUDIBLE].

I DON'T KNOW WHERE I GOT THE [INAUDIBLE] DIDN'T ADD UP.

THAT'S OK.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT ABOUT 20 MILLION PLUS AND WE'VE ALL CONFIRMED ALL OF THAT AS WE APPROACH IT.

THAT'S THE WATER WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

[INAUDIBLE] LOW RATES ARE WONDERFUL.

[INAUDIBLE] A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS, I DIDN'T [INAUDIBLE] SO MY HEAD IS SPINNING RIGHT NOW.

SO IF I MAY, WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THE PROJECT THAT WERE OUR TOP PRIORITY FROM WHAT WAS COMING UP [INAUDIBLE] SO THE BUFFER WALLS ARE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE AT 75 PERCENT DESIGN 100 PERCENT DESIGN.

SO WE KNEW THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING THEM.

SO THAT'S WHY WE TALKED TO JEFF ABOUT HOW DO WE GET THE FUNDING FOR THAT.

THE OTHER ONE OF THE THREE ONE [INAUDIBLE]AS IT RELATES TO THE PARK PROJECT.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT SABAL PALM WAS A MAJOR PARK IN THE CITY THAT WAS READY TO GO AND THAT WAS GOING TO COST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO WE PUT THAT IN THERE.

SHAKER VILLAGE, WE KNOW WE NEED TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AND THEN DEVELOP IT.

SO THAT [INAUDIBLE].

WASTEWATER PROJECT [INAUDIBLE] $20 MILLION WASTEWATER PLANT IS A HUGE PROJECT, BUT THAT HAS ITS OWN FUNDS.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.

SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS BIG LIST OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO DO AND I WANTED YOU TO SEE THE BIG LIST OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE WE DON'T OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE CIP IN THIS WAY BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THESE COMPETING INTERESTS.

AND THE FACT IS, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE AN EXTRA $100 MILLION TO DO THE PAVING AND THE LANDSCAPING, BUT WE WILL FOCUS ON SPECIFIC AREAS.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ROAD CONDITIONS.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BY LITTLE THING, BUT IF YOU WANT THE BUFFER WALLS THAT WE NEED TO BORROW MONEY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE IF YOU WANT SHAKER VILLAGE AND THE SABAL PALM PARK.

ONE OF THE WAYS YOU DO IT IS GEO BONDS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPTIONS AS IT RELATES TO THOSE, BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

AS WE LOOK AT REDEVELOPING CITY HALL, THAT'S A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT'S RIGHT FOR A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO OUT AND BORROW MONEY FOR A PROJECT LIKE THAT, WHEN WE COULD PARTNER WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT [INAUDIBLE].

SO THAT'S THE PERSPECTIVE THAT WAS TAKEN HERE, KNOWING THAT YOU WILL HAVE CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE WAITING ON PROJECTS AND THAT NEED TO GET BUILT AND THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE'RE RELYING ON AREN'T AVAILABLE.

SO THAT'S HOW WE PROCEED.

BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT US SPECIFICALLY TO RESPOND BACK TO YOU FOR CONSENSUS, BUT WHAT I LIKE AND JUST FOR CLARITY AND JUST REFRESHER WHEN YOU'RE SAYING DEBT SERVICE, GIVE US A DEFINITION, PLEASE.

WHEN YOU'RE SAYING GEO BOND FOR SOME OF THE ITEMS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU CAN ESTIMATE PER HOUSEHOLD, IS IT TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS? IS IT TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS PER YEAR? CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT.

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SO WHEN WE'RE TELLING YOU HOW WE FEEL OR THINK AND THINK THAT OUR RESIDENTS WILL SUPPORT OR NOT SUPPORT, WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COMPLETE ABILITY TO ANSWER YOU.

I AGREE.

I ONLY GOT TO THE POINT THREE [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S AS FAR AS I GOT.

WELL, THAT KIND OF ANALYSIS WE CAN DO AS WE GET CLOSER TO DECIDING WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT.

RECOGNIZING, WHAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND I SPOKE TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT IN OUR MEETINGS WAS THE EAST BUFFER WALLS THAT YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY WANTS, AND WE REALLY THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SURTAX [INAUDIBLE], WE DON'T.

SO WE CAN WAIT TO SEE THE SURTAX OF THAT, THAT COULD MEAN FIVE YEARS, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS WHAT ANYBODY WANTS.

WE CAN BORROW THE MONEY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN OR WE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO DO THEM.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A WASTE OF MONEY AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD PROBABLY BE [INAUDIBLE].

SO IT'S JUST FOR MONEY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND THAT'S THE 10 MILLION PLUS THE SIX FOR STORM WATER.

SO THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE ON THOSE TWO THINGS IS EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THOUSAND, AND WE HOPE CLUBHOUSE WILL CONTRIBUTE THEIR SHARE AS COMMISSIONER PLACKO HAS ASKED.

MAYBE THE 270000 CAN HELP CONTRIBUTE TO DEPENDING ON THE GOLF COURSE RUNS.

THE REASON I DIDN'T PUT THE WALLS INTO A GEO BOND ISSUE IS BECAUSE THE LAST WALLS YOU DID WERE FINANCED A CERTAIN WAY.

SO YOU'VE KIND OF SET A PRECEDENT FOR DOING WALLS THAT WAY.

ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, CAN YOU REALLY SAY EVERYBODY BENEFITS FROM THE REALLY SPECIFIC AREAS BENEFIT FROM THE WALLS? SO THE PARKS TEND TO HAVE MUCH MORE OF A CITYWIDE BENEFIT, WHICH IS WHY THEY TEND TO GET MORE SUPPORT CITYWIDE, I GUESS, BUT YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S THE NUMBERS ON THE GENERAL FUND BOND ISSUE AND SOME CONSENSUS AT SOME POINT YOU GET WITH STAFF, SO YOU DON'T NEED IT NOW.

YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT FROM US RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL BASE, [INAUDIBLE] THE QUESTION IS WITH THE BUFFER WALLS, DO YOU WANT TO BORROW MONEY TO BUILD ON THAT REVENUE BECAUSE WE THEY'RE READY TO GO.

WHAT DOES READY TO GO MEAN? ONE OF THEM IS A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGNED.

DESIGNED BUT NOT BUILT? RIGHT WE HAVE HAD DESIGNS IN ORDER TO GO [INAUDIBLE] OK, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN BUILT; THEY'VE ONLY BEEN DESIGNED? EXACTLY.

SO, ONCE WE DO THE FINANCING, THEN [INAUDIBLE] COURT OF LAW, YOU CAN GO OUT AND GET THE BIDS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ABILITY TO PAY FOR THE BIDS [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY.

SO THAT SEEMS KIND OF READY TO GO ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE.

I THINK A LOT OF STEPS MAY BE NEEDED ON THE GEO BONDS AND REQUIRES A LOT MORE DISCUSSION.

[INAUDIBLE] CITY ATTORNEY, BOND ATTORNEYS ON THAT? SOUNDS LIKE THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THERE IS READY TO GO AND WE CAN ASSUME EAST SIDE GETS APPROVED; IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED THE [INAUDIBLE] OR IF IT DOESN'T WORK ECONOMICALLY BASED ON WHATEVER JARGON [INAUDIBLE].

ON A SEPARATE QUESTION BEFORE WE GO TO THE CONSENSUS ON THE WALLS AND STUFF AND THE GOVERNMENT THAT THE REGULAR GOVERNMENT BONDS, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING, YOU HAVE A HOUSE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A HOUSE, HAS AN EQUITY, YOU TAKE AN EQUITY LINE OF CREDIT, YOU DON'T PAY ANYTHING ON IT UNTIL YOU SPEND THE MONEY.

IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT WE HAVE NOW SO WE CAN LOCK IN A RATE BECAUSE RATES ARE GOING TO GO UP? THIS FREE MONEY THING, WE SEE IT COMING, THAT'S GOING TO BURST AND THOSE RATES ARE GOING TO GO INSTEAD OF BEING TWO THREE FOUR FIVE SEVEN OR GOING INTO LIKE 15, 16 AND 17.

SO IS THERE SOMETHING OR IS THAT A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN DO FOR A GOVERNMENT OR IS THAT NOT ALLOWABLE? YOU'RE NOT COCA-COLA.

SO I WOULD SAY NO.

OK.

NOW THE MARKET IS ALREADY BUILT INTO THE RATES, THE ESTIMATE, THE RATE INCREASE WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR.

SO WHEN I WAS DRIVING DOWN EARLY THIS MORNING TO COME HERE AND I WAS TRYING TO LISTEN TO THE NEWS, BUT ALSO DRIVING SAFELY.

YOU KNOW, THE MARKET'S ALREADY ANTICIPATED THAT.

WHAT THE FED IS DOING IS THEY'VE ARTIFICIALLY HELD, YOU KNOW, SHORT TERM RATES ALMOST AT 0 TO 0.25 PERCENT FOR A LONG TIME AND THAT'S GOING TO STOP.

THE OTHER THING THEY'RE DOING, THEY'VE BEEN BUYING A BUNCH OF MORTGAGES, THEY OWN MORE MORTGAGES AND ANYBODY ELSE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO START TAPERING OFF.

YOU HEAR ABOUT TAPERING, THEY SLOW DOWN THAT PROCESS.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT IF SHORT TERM RATES COME UP A LITTLE BIT, THAT MAY ACTUALLY HELP FLATTEN THE YIELD CURVE.

I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO SPECIFIC? SO I'M NOT REAL CONCERNED ABOUT SAYING THINGS THAT GET DONE BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE KIND OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY BECAUSE THE MARKET'S VERY QUICK TO ADJUST TO THAT.

FINANCING IN 2023, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD FEELING FOR.

INFLATION IS 10 PERCENT AND IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.

THAT'S THE THING THAT THE FED'S FINALLY REALIZED AND THE THING ABOUT GEO BONDS, IF YOU DECIDE TO DO GEO BONDS JACK TALKED ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR IT [INAUDIBLE] BUT YOU DO HAVE TO EDUCATE PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE] OUT THERE IN ADVANCE SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THAT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION THAT NEEDS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL.

THEY MAY DIRECT BASED ON [INAUDIBLE] AND USUALLY THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS COME IN AND HELP THEM WITH THOSE THINGS AND WE WANT YOU FOLKS TO KIND OF SMILE AND BE EXCITED ABOUT IT AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY HELPED THE FOLKS OVER IN VENICE.

THEY HAD GOOD COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

THE ROAD WE'RE GOING TO HELP THEIR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AREA SAFETY WAS WAS TALKED ABOUT A LOT [INAUDIBLE] THE POLICE STATION AS WELL.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE WAY TO GO WITH THOSE PROJECTS AND EVERY YEAR YOU OBLIGATE THE CITIZENS TO PAY ENOUGH MILLAGE TO COVER THE DEBT SERVICE.

[INAUDIBLE].

SO EVERY YEAR, CHRISTINE, DO THAT CALCULATION.

ALL RIGHT.

SO AT THIS TIME, WE JUST NEED CONSENSUS ON MOVING FORWARD REGARDING THE WALLS, AND THE REQUIREMENT FOR HERE.

I'VE GOT A YES FROM THE SKY, FROM COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS.

I THINK THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DISCUSSION TO BE HAD.

YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER PREDECESSOR DID SAY THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THESE PROJECTS.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE TOLD US.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I REMEMBER VIVIDLY.

THAT IS WHAT WE THEN REPRESENTED TO THE RESIDENTS AND NOW TO HEAR THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY AND THAT WE'RE NOT IN A FINANCIAL SHAPE TO BUILD THE THINGS THAT WE WANT IS DISHEARTENING.

AND SO I DON'T MIND GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TELLING THEM THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I'M NOT GOING TO SELL THE COMMUNITY A DREAM.

WE TOLD THEM THAT THESE THINGS WERE GOING TO HAPPEN BASED ON WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

WE WERE TOLD THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

THESE OTHER YEARS, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE ARE IN A SOUND FINANCIAL POSITION TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND NOW WE'RE HEARING OTHERWISE.

SO UNDER THIS MANAGEMENT, YOU ARE TELLING US THAT WE'D HAVE TO DO A GEO BOND FOR THAT.

YOU ARE LOOKING FOR UNITY ON THAT WHEN HELL FREEZES OVER.

I'M NOT GOING TO TELL MY RESIDENTS TO GET A GEO BOND OR WHATEVER TO BUILD A CLUBHOUSE OR A PARK.

CENTRAL PARK, SABAL PALM PARK WAS PROMISED LONG BEFORE I CAME ON THIS COMMISSION.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THAT.

TO HAPPEN IN THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THIS COMMISSIONER PARTLY PROMISED THEM THAT.

WHEN THOSE COMMUNITIES WERE BEING BUILT, WE PROMISED RIGHT AND WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN, THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION PROMISED THAT A PARK WAS GOING TO BE BUILT SO THAT THEY CAN ENJOY THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO IF WE WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME OF GEO BONDS OR WHATEVER IT IS, WAIT UNTIL I TELL THEM THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THAT IS GOING TO HIT WHOEVER IS ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER, AND I'LL MAKE SURE IT HITS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A GEO BOND AND I WILL TELL THE RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE NOT IN THE FINANCIAL SHAPE TO GET THE THINGS DONE UNDER THIS CITY MANAGER AND UNDER THIS MAYOR.

THIS IS WHAT I'LL TELL THEM, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I HEARD TODAY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND DO A GEO BOND FOR THESE PROJECTS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD AND THAT IS NOT WHAT I REPRESENTED TO THE RESIDENTS.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

SECONDLY, WE DESIGNED WALLS WITHOUT MONEY THAT IS NOT PROPER FINANCIAL PLANNING.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO SPEND MONEY TO DESIGN A WALL, NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE WALL? AND THEN NOW YOU WANT CONSENSUS TO THEN GO BORROW MONEY TO BUILD THAT WALL? AND THEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE AIR SAYING YES, AS IF THIS IS JUST A MAGICAL WAND TO GO AND BORROW MONEY SO QUICKLY WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE'RE LISTENING, SO.

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OK AND NOW YOU LISTEN, SIR, BECAUSE YOU SAID YES, VERY, VERY, VERY ASKING BOTH OF YOU TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC AT HAND FROM YOURSELF.

I JUST DID.

IF YOU HEARD, SO WILL YOU PLEASE CONTINUE WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND I WILL CONTINUE MY COMMENTS WITHOUT BEING DISRUPTED.

YOU'RE SINGLING ME OUT.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, I WAS ASKING FOR CONSENSUS.

THERE IS A REQUEST FOR MORE DISCUSSION.

WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU TIMELY AFTER COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS FINISHED.

PLEASE PROCEED, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.

SO WE DESIGNED WALLS.

WE'RE MAKING ALL THESE PLANS AND WE'RE DOING THIS WITHOUT MONEY.

THAT'S NOT PROPER PLANNING.

THAT'S NOT PROPER PLANNING.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO DESIGN WALLS, NOT HAVE THE MONEY AND THEN COME TO A COMMISSION AND SAY, OK, WELL, WE DESIGNED IT, IT'S READY.

NOW LET'S GET CONSENSUS TO BORROW MONEY.

NO, THAT CONVERSATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAD BEFORE WE EVEN WENT TO DESIGN SOMETHING.

THAT'S THE WAY I THINK.

I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER.

WE WON'T CONSIDER A FINANCING UNLESS SOMETHING'S BEEN PRETTY MUCH DESIGNED BECAUSE WE DON'T WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST.

USUALLY THE DESIGN THE DESIGN COMES FIRST.

OK, OK.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIGHT FOR THE MIC.

I SAID TO YOU, THAT IS HOW I THINK.

RIGHT.

THAT IS HOW I THINK.

OK.

SO, AGAIN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MY COLLEAGUES CAN APPROVE BORROWING MORE MONEY FOR THESE PROJECTS, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.

BORROWING MONEY FOR TO BUILD TO BUILD WALLS, IT IS TIME WE PUT BRAKES ON ALL THIS SPENDING WITHOUT ACTUALLY KNOWING HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE AND SO, CHRISTINE, WHY CAN'T WE FIX THE SHAKER VILLAGE CLUBHOUSE, BUILD IT OR WHATEVER WE'RE BUILDING OUT THERE FROM WHAT WE HAVE IN SAVINGS? WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT THAT.

[INAUDIBLE].

HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN SAVINGS? HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN SAVINGS RESERVED, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT? YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE].

YES.

OK [INAUDIBLE] FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO 2021, [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY [INAUDIBLE], OF WHICH 24 MILLION.

OK, SO WE HAVE $24 MILLION UNRESTRICTED.

WHEN THE MAYOR IS TAKING CONSENSUS ON ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS, NOT INCLUDING GEO BONDS.

IT WASN'T THE GEO BONDS.

THE FIRST ONE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS NON-GEO BOND-BASED AND I'M GOING TO ASK RIGHT NOW--SO THIS IS MY DISTRICT AND I'M GOING TO GET WHAT I NEED TO SAY OUT.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO; I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO A FAVOR, PLEASE.

SO THIS $24 MILLION AT SOME POINT, WE NEED TO HAVE CONSENSUS.

IF WE NEED TO BUILD SHAKER VILLAGE, AT LEAST SHAKE A VILLAGE OUT OF THAT $24 MILLION.

SHAKER VILLAGE IS HOW MUCH? WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT THAT WE PROJECT MANAGER? TO PURCHASE OR TO DEVELOP? PURCHASE AND DEVELOP? [INAUDIBLE] SO THEY ADD ON WHAT YOU WOULD PAY FOR IT, WHICH YOU HAVE TO NEGOTIATE.

RIGHT AND AN APPRAISAL, SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST.

AT SOME POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR COMMISSION, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO THAT OUT OF THE SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT LOOKING AT A GEO BOND.

SHAKER VILLAGE IS NOT A MARLON THING.

LET ME MAKE THAT CLEAR.

IT IS NOT A MARLON THING.

IT IS A COMMUNITY THING AND THAT BUILDING ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF PROSPECTIVELY BUILDING OUT IN THE WOODLANDS.

HORRENDOUS.

YOU HAVE THAT BUILDING CONTINUOUSLY.

BEING THERE ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD LOWERS EVERYBODY'S THE VALUE OF EVERYBODY'S HOUSE.

THE PROPERTY OUT OF FUNDING THAT WAS EXISTING, BUT THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT WOULD COST ADDITIONAL MONEY AND WOULD BE PART OF SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THAT WAS THE WAY IT WAS.

THERE WAS NOTHING DISCUSSED ABOUT PURCHASING [INAUDIBLE] WITH THE BOND.

FIRST, WE HAVE TO ACQUIRE IT AND THEN WE NEED TO DEVELOP IT.

SO IT WAS A TWO STEP PROCESS.

I UNDERSTAND MANAGER, BUT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM.

BEFORE WE PURCHASE THE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, WE CAN PURCHASE IT AND THEN SAY, OK, WHAT DO WE DO NEXT? THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, SO THAT WE COULD ONE, PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FROM THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE AND THEN NUMBER TWO, WE'VE GOT TO FIND THE MONEY TO DO A DEVELOP IT.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONVERSATION TODAY WAS.

BUT THE CONVERSATION LED TO GEO BONDS.

THAT WAS AN OPTION THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THE TABLE.

SO THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE HAVE ITEMS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS EXPECTING THAT WE DON'T HAVE PAY AS YOU GO CASH.

IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD SOME PAY-AS-YOU-GO MONEY, BUT BECAUSE OF COVID, WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT MONEY AVAILABLE.

WE'VE HAD TO TAKE OUR CIP OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE EXTRA MONEY TO PUT IT INTO CIP PROJECTS.

THAT IS THE REASON THAT THIS CONVERSATION IS BEING HAD TODAY.

IT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS THREE O'CLOCK.

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE REQUESTED A BREAK, SO WE WILL BE TAKING A 10 MINUTE BREAK .

SO EVERYBODY USE THE FACILITIES, WE CAN COME BACK HERE AND FINISH THIS CONVERSATION BY 3:30 OR SOONER.

WE HAVE A 10 MINUTE BREAK.

COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS HERE.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO? HERE.

MAYOR GOMEZ? HERE.

SO WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO MR. LAWRENCE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO PLEASE CLARIFY THE ITEMS BEFORE US FOR THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND THEN WE'LL WRAP THIS UP.

YES, THESE ARE OPTIONS BASED ON THE [INAUDIBLE] IN THE PAST THAT WAS WELL RECEIVED BOTH BY THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE MARKET.

SO WE KNOW ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE THERE'S A NEED TO REPAY STORM WATER THAT SIX MILLION IN 2018 BONDS FINANCED WHAT I CALL, PHASE ONE OF THE SOUND WALLS AND [INAUDIBLE] PROGRAM AND THE STATE CONFIRMED THAT THE SOUND WALLS ACROSS [INAUDIBLE] ROAD IN SOUTH GATE AREA ARE PRETTY WELL DESIGNED.

THAT MEANS THE FINANCEABLE SUCH TO YOUR APPROVAL.

THAT'S 10 MILLION.

SO THAT'S THAT FIRST FINANCING AND THAT I BELIEVE IS ACHIEVABLE.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS, MAYOR, ABOUT HOW THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF IS A SUCCESSFUL [INAUDIBLE] IS GOING TO ADD SOME VALUE TO HELP COVER PART OF THAT DEBT SERVICE AND THE SOUND WALLS THAT WE'VE DONE TODAY HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AND HAD GOOD RESULTS AS WELL.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING I'M SUGGESTING.

AND THAT'S REGULAR FINANCING.

THIS IS NOT A GEO BOND.

[INAUDIBLE] JUST LIKE 2018 FINANCE THOSE THINGS WE'LL FIND TO BE EXACTLY THE SIX MILLION.

WE'LL [INAUDIBLE] EXACTLY THE SOUND OF WALLS.

THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO.

COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RESOLUTION WITH THE ATTORNEY AND THE BOND ATTORNEY, FOR FINANCING NOT TO EXCEED X FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND ONCE THE COMMISSION SAYS, OKAY, WE PROCEED TO COME BACK WITH RESULTS OF THE RATING AGENCIES AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

I WAS ASKED TO COMMENT ON WATER AND WASTEWATER.

THERE ARE TWO PRODUCERS IN THE CIP PROGRAM [INAUDIBLE] OUR ATTENTION WATER TREATMENT PLANT, WHICH IS PRETTY WELL DESIGNED AND I THINK READY TO GO FROM WHAT I HEARD, THAT'S NOW 20 MILLION, I HAVE SIXTEEN POINT EIGHT.

I'M [INAUDIBLE] CIP SAYS ABOUT 20 MILLION PROJECT EAST SIDE DISTRIBUTION IS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL AND SOME ECONOMICS BEING DONE, BUT THAT'S [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT.

THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE DONE AS A WATER WASTEWATER BOND ISSUE SUBJECT TO UTILITY RATES AND I BELIEVE ARE SUPPORTABLE BASED ON THE STRENGTH AND UTILITY.

[INAUDIBLE] I WENT INTO THE OTHER PROJECTS OR OTHER PARK PROJECTS, WATER PROJECTS, BICYCLE PATH PROJECTS, CITY HALL PPP PROJECTS, AND WE TRY TO IDENTIFY WITH STAFF THE ONES THAT WERE MOST DISCUSSED.

I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT IN ALL YOUR MEETINGS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS SAID OR NOT SAID, BUT SABAL PALM TAMARAC NATURE RESERVE OR SHAKER VILLAGE CAME TO MIND AS SOME TWENTY TWO POINT EIGHT MILLION AND WE BELIEVE YOU'RE AT CAPACITY WITH YOUR CPA BONDS BASED ON A FACTUAL BASIS.

SO THE OTHER WAY TO GET THOSE DONE IS THROUGH GEO BOND ISSUE.

THE VOTERS, ASK FOR THEIR APPROVAL ON THOSE PROJECTS.

OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU DEEM TO BE IN THAT MIX, AND THAT WAS THE THIRD PHASE.

THE REASON I PUT SOUND WALLS WITH STORMWATER IN FIRST FINANCING IT, THE SOUND WALLS REALLY BENEFITS.

IN PARTICULAR, THOSE PEOPLE CLOSE TO THE SOUND WALLS.

PARKS TEND TO HAVE MORE OF A CITYWIDE BENEFIT.

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SO THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU.

SO CITY MANAGER FOR US TO GO FORWARD HERE TODAY.

ALL YOU NEED FROM US IS A REFINANCING THAT'S UP IN THE WASTEWATER, AND WE CAN COME BACK FOR GEO BOND DISCUSSION AT A LATER TIME, OR DO YOU NEED IT FOR ALL? I WAS LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH FUNDING TO PROVIDE THE BUFFER WALLSIRAQ.

[INAUDIBLE] RECOMMENDED TO BE [INAUDIBLE] GEO BONDS AND WHAT WOULD BE IN THERE AND HOW WE FINANCE THE REST OF THE PROJECT.

THIS IS A PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION.

THE WASTEWATER THAT'LL COME BACK A LATER TIME TOO.

OK.

REALLY, THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONVERSATION WAS TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THE CIP, THE STATUS OF IT AND WHAT WE DO AND DON'T HAVE MONEY.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR CONSENSUS ON JUST DEALING WITH THE FIRST PART, WHICH IS OUR SOUND WALLS.

THE COLONY WEST REFINANCED THROUGH REGULAR REFINANCING PROCEDURES AS WE HAVE DONE AND HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SINCE 2018.

YEAH.

OKAY, I'VE GOT YES BY COMMISSIONER VILLALOBOS, VICE MAYOR GELIN.

OK.

[INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE? I'D LIKE TO SEE [INAUDIBLE].

SO A POWERPOINT [INAUDIBLE], IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PAGE [INAUDIBLE], YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BY [INAUDIBLE] ABOUT GOING TO THE PUBLIC--WE'RE NOT ON THAT ONE COMMISSIONER GELIN.

WE'RE SPECIFICALLY JUST TRYING TO FINISH UP THE ITEM ON THE REGULAR FINANCING.

[INAUDIBLE].

YOU HAVE NO OPINIONS? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU.

YES.

NO OPINION FROM VICE MAYOR GELIN.

COMMISSIONER PLACKO? I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION.

HOW MUCH ARE EACH OF THESE WALLS GOING TO COST? I WANT BANG FOR THE BUCK.

DO YOU WANT TO ALLOW CITY STAFF TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE THIS SO WE CAN GET A FINAL ANSWER? THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW SHOULD THEY PROCEED WITH GETTING THIS INFORMATION SO WE CAN HAVE A FINAL ANSWER ON IT? THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU ASKED.

IT'S CONSENSUS FOR PUTTING THIS INTO REGULAR FINANCING.

THEY DON'T JUST GO AND DO IT.

THEY COME BACK TO US WITH THE INFORMATION.

THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST RODEO, EVERYBODY.

WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS UP TO YOU.

THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

CORRECT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET THE INFORMATION AND THEN PRESENT IT TO US.

THEY DON'T JUST BORROW THE MONEY UNLESS IT COMES BACK TO US.

WE KNOW THIS PROCEDURE, EVERYBODY.

SO INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS DIFFICULT, LET'S JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION KNOWING WHAT IT IS ABOUT, DO WE WANT OUR CITY STAFF TO PROCEED IN GETTING INFORMATION ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE REFINANCING THESE WALLS AND THIS COLONY WEST AND PROCEED FORWARD ON THAT.

WHICH, AT A FUTURE DATE, WILL COME BACK TO US? COMMISSIONER PLACKO? MADAM MAYOR, WHAT YOU JUST SAID WAS INFORMATION ON REFINANCING, AND I AM LOOKING FOR A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR EACH WALL BEFORE I CAN MAKE A DECISION, THE END.

BUT WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT UNTIL IT GETS TO DESIGN AND FINISHES DESIGN, WE CANNOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION.

BUT WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE THAT WAY.

I CANNOT MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY OF OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION UNTIL I KNOW THAT I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION.

WE CAN BRING IT BACK.

WE WILL BRING THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION.

THIS IS JUST AN OPTION THAT WE WANTED TO DISCUSS AND PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE TODAY, SO WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

SO AT LEAST THERE'S CONSENSUS TO HAVE OUR CITY STAFF GO OBTAIN MORE INFORMATION SO THEY CAN GIVE US THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN FIGURE OUT THE FINANCING.

MAYOR, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY TO HELP COMMISSIONER PLACKO, [INAUDIBLE] PAY [INAUDIBLE] FIVE YEARS CIP AND THEN BLUE, IT SHOWS THE SOUTH GATE PROSPECT ROAD PROJECTS PER [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT.

SO YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR CIP.

STAFF CAN GET YOU.

THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS I USED TO DEVELOP WHAT $10 MILLION WOULD DO.

SO, THEY'VE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT PRETTY MUCH [INAUDIBLE] DESIGNS 75 PERCENT, 10 PERCENT ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SEEING THAT THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, EVERYBODY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR ASSISTANCE, YOUR PATIENTS, HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR DAY.

MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 3:17.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.