YOU CAN ONLY HEAR ME HERE BETTER.
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ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.[CALL TO ORDER]
IT IS 7:05, AND WE WELCOME YOU TO OUR FIRST IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL MEETING OF OUR COMMISSION MEETING. IT IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 26TH, AND IT IS SEVEN 00 FIVE PM CITY CLERK.WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM MAYOR.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON. GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GELIN.
GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS AND PRESIDENT, THANK YOU AND MAYOR GOMEZ, GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU. NOW, IF EVERYONE WILL PLEASE STAND COMMISSIONER GELIN WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IT MAY BE.
IN THE STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AMANDA. A LITTLE SIDE NOTE THAT THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW CITY ATTORNEY.
THANK. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
THANK YOU. AND I WILL ASK YOU TO JUMP IN IF THERE ARE SOME PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADJUST, AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, THAT WE WERE VIRTUAL.
SO AS SUCH, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME CHANGING IN RULES AND PROCEDURES.
AND WE NOT ONLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THIS THE PROPER WAY.
I HOPE THAT THAT BECOMES A MINIMUM ACTIVITY ON MY BEHALF.
BUT I'M READY TO DO SO WHEN APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS OUR LEGISLATIVE UPDATE, OUR
[1.a. Legislative Update - House of Representatives, District 95, Anika Omphroy]
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISTRICT 95, ANEKA UMPHREY.WE, AS I SAID, ARE PARTLY VIRTUAL, SO SHE SHOULD BE APPEARING.
SO SORRY ABOUT THAT, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS IS A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU TODAY.
HI, I'M ACTUALLY TRAVELING, SO EXCUSE ME, BUT I HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU TONIGHT, AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.
OK, SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING TO GIVE MY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE BEFORE YOU YOU'LL SEE MY FIRST PRESENTATION AND IT JUST GIVES A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT TOOK PLACE IN THE DISTRICT AND SHOWS THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT I WAS ABLE TO BRING HOME IN THE LEGISLATIVE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, WHICH TOTALED TWO MILLION TWO HUNDRED NINETY NINE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE DOLLARS IN TOTAL.
I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY SHOW YOU TAMARAC WITH SOME EXTRA INFORMATION.
SO THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT I WORKED ON WITH THE CITY IN 2019, 2020 AND OF COURSE, 2021. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE WORKED ON TOGETHER WAS ONE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND EIGHTY.
AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT PLAY IS WE DO HAVE THE TAMARAC, WE HAVE THE TAMARAC, C14 NOW THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY CURRENTLY IN PLACE FOR THE 2021 LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND THERE IS 350000 MILES IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC RECEIVED IN 2019 FROM THE STATE.
IT ALSO SHOWS THE PROJECT THAT WE WORKED ON THAT DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH VETO, WHICH WAS SHOWN IN THE YELLOW, WHICH IS YOU SEE THE SMART PUBLIC SAFETY NETWORK AND YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE STORM WATER COBERT THAT WE DIDN'T GET FUNDING FOR.
AND THEN IN THE REST OF THE PROJECTS, THAT NEVER MADE IT THROUGH.
SO OUT OF THE SIX PROJECTS THAT THE CITY HAS ACTUALLY TO CARRY, FOUR ACTUALLY MADE IT INTO THE LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND TWO WERE VETOED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON ON THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST THREE SESSIONS AND THEN NEXT SLIDE.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF THE PROJECTS THAT I WORKED ON THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE THE GOLD BP QUALITY STANDARDS.
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YOU'LL SEE THAT I ALSO WORKED ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT USE OF FORCE LEGISLATION AND YOU'LL SEE RENEWABLE ENERGY AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS.I WORKED ON IT DEALT WITH CARS AND THEN ALSO DEALING WITH THE WHAT WE CALL THE MUGSHOT BOOKING BILL, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED BY OUR AMAZING MAYOR TO MS. GOMEZ IN REFERENCE TO BEING SURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE HAVING TO FIGHT WITH THE ISSUES OF THESE MUG SHOTS COMING BACK TO HAUNT THEM ALSO WORKED ON SPORTS WAGERING.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I JUST FINISHED SPECIAL SESSION ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO WHERE WE ACTUALLY REAFFIRMED THE CONTACT OF THE GOVERNOR AND THE SEMINOLE TRIBE SIGNED.
AND THEN I ALSO HAD COMPLETE LEGISLATION DEALING WITH THE.
USE OF RECREATIONAL CANNABIS, MAKING IT NOT ILLEGAL, BUT ALSO HAD EQUITY WHERE THERE WAS 30 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS OF CANNABIS, AS WELL AS INTRODUCING CURRICULUM INTO UNIVERSITY.
IT'S REALLY AN EXPANSIVE BILL, ALL ENCOMPASSING.
AND IT WAS REALLY AMAZING TO CARRY THAT LEGISLATION.
I THINK THAT WE'LL SEE SOME CHANGES IN THAT AREA IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.
SO THOSE ARE THE SEVEN BILLS THAT I PROPOSED.
TWO OF THEM DEALT WITH CANNABIS.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE SIX ON THE SCREEN.
AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, SO OUT OF THE SEVEN BILLS THAT I'VE PROPOSED THIS YEAR, THREE OF THEM ACTUALLY HAVE MADE IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE AND BECOME A PART OF LEGISLATION THAT IS GOING TO BE OR IS ALREADY CURRENTLY LAW.
SO THE GOLDFIELD QUALITY STANDARDS ACTUALLY WAS EMBEDDED INTO ANOTHER BILL THAT WAS ACTUALLY SIGNED INTO LAW.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER.
I CAN'T SEE IT BECAUSE I'M IN THE CAR.
I APOLOGIZE. AND THEN THE USE OF FORCE LEGISLATION I PROPOSED BECAME A PART OF THE POLICE REFORM LEGISLATION THAT THEY'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN.
BUT I AM ONE OF THE NAME WRITERS OF THAT PARTICULAR LEGISLATION.
AND THE THE BILL DEALING WITH THE MUGSHOTS IS ACTUALLY WAS AMENDED INTO IT.
I'M THE CO-SPONSOR ON THIS BILL BECAUSE WE HAD ANOTHER BILL THAT DEALT WITH MUG SHOTS.
AND WHAT WHAT WE DID WAS ACTUALLY PUT TEETH INTO WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE ALREADY HAD IN LAW. AND ONCE AGAIN, MY HAT'S OFF TO MAYOR GOMEZ FOR FOR PROPOSING THIS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT, IF YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL ON THE COMMISSION AND YOU HAVE AN IDEA FOR LEGISLATION THAT YOU BELIEVE COULD HELP THE CITIZENS, THE RESIDENTS OF FLORIDA, PLEASE PROPOSE IT, THEN SEND US YOUR IDEAS AND WE WILL WORK ON IT. SO THREE OTHER THINGS THAT I PROPOSED OUT OF THE SEVEN ACTUALLY BECAME A PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THIS YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO UPDATE YOU ALL ON I HOPE THAT EVERYONE IS WELL, I'M SO GLAD TO BE A PART OF YOUR FIRST VIRTUAL IN-PERSON MEETING.
IT'S NICE TO SEE US GETTING BACK TO SOME FORM OF NORMALCY.
I'M NOT SURE HOW YOUR COMMISSION MEETINGS RUN, BECAUSE MY FIRST ONE, BUT I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU HANDLE YOUR MEETINGS IN THAT MANNER, BUT MY NAME IS ANY GUNN FROM THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE CAJUSTE DISTRICT 95, AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE AND AN HONOR TO SERVE YOU. THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE, VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TRAVELING AND IT'S.
A BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I BELIEVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY NEED TO REACH YOU WILL REACH YOU. WE HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA TODAY.
SO I'M ALSO GOING TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PUSHING FORWARD ON THE BILL THAT TRIED TO GET THROUGH LAST YEAR AND BE DUE TO COVID.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT ARREST, MUGSHOT, REMOVAL BILL.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMIRA.
IT'S A PLEASURE, AN HONOR TO SERVE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR GOMEZ COMMISSIONER.
I THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTY.
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LOVELY REST OF YOUR MEETING.
BYE BYE. BYE BYE. YOU SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GOODBYE. SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO I'M JUST GOING TO NAME THE THREE PROCLAMATION'S. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PRESENTING THEM THIS EVENING, BUT WE WILL GET THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE ORGANIZATIONS.
NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE, WHERE ORANGE WAS REQUESTED BY MYSELF, NURSES WEEK OF 20 21, ALSO REQUESTED BY MYSELF AND TEACHERS APPRECIATION WEEK REQUESTED BY MYSELF.
THOSE PROCLAMATIONS ARE IN OUR BACKUP AND THEN WILL BE ONLINE IF YOU WISH TO READ THEM IN FULL. WE WILL NOW HAVE OUR PRESENTATION OF THE DIANE GLASSER SCHOLARSHIP AWARDS TO DANIEL
[1.e. Presentation of the Diane Glasser Scholarship Awards to Daniel Arias and Jada Brown]
ARIAS. AND JADA BROWN IS A WE ARE VERY PROUD OF OUR STUDENTS AND IN ALL THAT APPLIED,[00:10:01]
THEY WERE ALL WORTHY AND IT'S APPRECIATED.I KNOW THOSE PHONES WILL BE GOING OFF ANY SECOND TO SILENT OR OFF.
THANK YOU. AND AS THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT IS AN INITIATIVE BY COMMISSIONER PLACKO, THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER PLACKO TO GO TO THE WELL AND DO THE PRESENTATION ON HER BEHALF AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
THIS IS A PROUD MOMENT FOR OUR CITY.
WE ARE HONORING TWO EXCEPTIONAL YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF DIANE GLASSER, WHO I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW SHE WAS MY FRIEND.
AND I WANTED TO DO THIS NOT ONLY IN HER HONOR, BUT TO ASSIST TWO YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR EDUCATIONAL ENDEAVORS.
IT WAS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
IT WAS DIFFICULT NARROWING IT DOWN TO TWO, BUT WE DID MANAGE.
AND TO THAT END, I HAVE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE OF BARBARA TARNOFF AND GREG WARNER AND LORENZO CALHOUN FOR MAKING THIS ALL POSSIBLE AND GET READY FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO I WOULD NOW LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR FIRST RECIPIENTS OF THE DIANE GLASSER SCHOLARSHIP AWARD, THE EXCEPTIONAL YOUNG LADY, JADA BROWN.
JADA HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THE KEY CLUB FROM VERY, VERY EARLY ON, SHE HAS LED BY EXAMPLE. SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN VOLUNTEERING AND LEADERSHIP AWARDS.
SHE HAS ALSO MANAGED TO MAINTAIN A 4.0 GRADE POINT AVERAGE OF.
CONGRATULATIONS, WE ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR AWARDING MEDIA SCHOLARSHIP.
AND IT WILL GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO HELP ME WITH MY EDUCATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH, OUR SECOND RECIPIENT, DANIEL AREAS, COULD YOU COME UP, PLEASE? DANIEL IS A VERY, VERY BUSY YOUNG MAN, HE VOLUNTEERED AS AN ASSISTANT COACH.
AND HE'S A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
HE HAS MANAGED TO KEEP HIS GRADE POINT AVERAGE UP TO THREE POINT THREE.
AND FROM WHAT I HEAR NOW, HE WOULD LIKE TO BE A FIREFIGHTER AND WE'RE HOPING TO KEEP HIM IN TAMARAC, SO.
ALL RIGHT, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, MY NAME IS DANIEL.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A QUICK LITTLE THINGS MESSAGE FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
AS I EXPLAINED TO THEM BEFORE, SADLY, I DIDN'T GET APPROVAL FOR THE FAST FOR AND FOR THE BRIGHT FUTURES SCHOLARSHIP, WHICH WERE THE TWO BIGGEST SCHOLARSHIPS.
I WOULD HAVE COVERED MY TUITION.
BUT AS YOU SAID, I'M VERY BUSY WORKING HARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE IN MY ASPIRATIONS, IN MY EDUCATION AND BECOMING A FIREFIGHTER STUDYING M.S.
AND BARUCH COLLEGE. SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
AND AND I FEEL VERY BLESSED TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BOTH.
WE ARE IMMENSELY PROUD OF YOU.
WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO WONDERFUL THINGS AND COME BACK AND VISIT US.
EXCELLENT AND HEARTWARMING KNOW BOTH.
INDIVIDUALS WILL DO A GREAT JOB AND MAKE THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND THEIR FAMILIES PROUD.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO SKIP COMMISSIONER REPORTS, WE WERE ALSO GOING TO SKIP THE CITY
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ATTORNEY REPORT, WE ARE SKIPPING THE CITY MANAGER REPORT AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO[5. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ( Part 1 of 2 )]
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.NOW, THIS IS FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
I HAVE A LIST HERE AND IS BEING MODIFIED AS WE SPEAK.
OK, AND THEN, OK, THANK YOU AND MAYOR GOMEZ, IF YOU CAN JUST REPEAT THAT TO MAKE SURE.
ALL RIGHT, I WILL DO SO FOR RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FOR ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TURN TO.
FIRST, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE LIST.
I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN MARKED IF I'M MS. SOMEBODY WHO HAS A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM, YOU'LL JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND LET ME KNOW.
WE DO ASK EVERYBODY TO STATE THEIR NAME, ADDRESS IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE.
IF NOT, JUST GIVE US THE CITY IN WHICH YOU LIVE AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES.
WE KNOW THAT DURING THE COURSE OF THE EVENING THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT GET PEOPLE EXCITED, EITHER HAPPY OR NOT SO HAPPY.
WE TRY TO ASK EVERYBODY TO KEEP THEIR DECORUM.
WE'VE GONE TO OUR LITTLE REALLY, REALLY HAPPY AND YOU CAN JUST GO IF YOU'RE NOT OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, NICE AND QUIET.
SO WE ARE NOT DISRESPECTFUL BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALSO FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, WE ONLY HAVE WE SET A 30 MINUTE AGGREGATE TIME FRAME FOR THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
AND I GUESS THE CITY ATTORNEY, NOW THAT WE'RE ALSO VIRTUAL, WOULD YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE VIRTUAL RULES? UM, I KNOW THE LIGHT IS BLINDING.
I. I'LL JUMP IN HERE FOR YOU IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T.
BUT IN GENERAL, IT'S EACH PERSON IS LIMITED TO THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AS IF THEY WERE IN PERSON. THEY THE CLERK OR IT STAFF WILL CALL THEM IN AND TURN AS THEY HAVE BEEN LISTED OR THEY PROVIDED THEIR NAME, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEN STAFF WILL NOTIFY THEM AND UNMUTED THEM SO THEY CAN SPEAK AND THEY WILL BE BROADCAST OH EXCUSE ME, BROADCAST BROADCAST OVER OUR SCREENS AND THROUGH THE AUDIO AND UP ABOVE TO THE AUDIENCE IN GENERAL.
AND AT THE CONCLUSION OF THEIR TIME PERIOD, THEY'LL BE NOTIFIED AND THEN THE CLERK WILL, THROUGH STAFF WILL SHUT OFF THE AUDIO, THE MUTE, SO THE MEETING CAN PROCEED TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE EMAILED IN, WE DO NOT READ EMAILS INTO THE RECORD, HOWEVER, IF YOU WOULD SEND THEM TO THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY CLERK WILL BE COMPILING THEM AND PUTTING THEM INTO THE RECORD.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I AM SEEING BUDGET AND TRACK.
ALL RIGHT, THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE HERE IS DOROTHY.
IF YOU WOULD COME TO THIS MICROPHONE, STAND, PLEASE, THREE MINUTES.
I LIVE AT 78, 79, GRANVILLE DRIVE, TAMARAC.
AND THAT'S ALL YOU NEED ON THAT.
FIRST OF ALL, MIKE GELIN, I THINK YOU NEED TO LEARN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
AND IT'S EGREGIOUS THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW OUR PLEDGE.
AND AS A CITY COMMISSIONER, THAT'S REALLY SAD.
I THINK THAT YOU GENTLEMEN NEED TO WORK FOR US, THE PEOPLE, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, NOT TO FILL YOUR OWN POCKETS WITH MONEY, WITH ALL THESE RIDICULOUS THINGS THAT YOU PROPOSE AND SUGGEST THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS USING TAXPAYER MONEY.
I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO SPEND YOUR ENERGY WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE AND NOT FUNDRAISING FOR COMMUNITY POLITICIANS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IN TAMARAC, I BELIEVE IN YOUR CHURCH, YOU GO BY THE NICKNAME PROPHET FIRE.
I HAVE TO WONDER IF THAT'S SYNONYMOUS TO THE DEVIL.
OK, YOU'VE ALSO MANAGED TO BLOCK YOURSELF FROM ALL THE ZOOME MEETINGS.
I HAVE TO WONDER IF YOU ARE INTIMIDATED BY THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
OTHER THAN THAT, MY COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WILL BE ADDRESSED WHEN YOU COME UP WITH THE PART TIME PEOPLE AND THE TRACK IF THAT'S ADDRESSED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, DR. SCHULLER, JUST TO RESPOND TO, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER.
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I JUST SAID THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, NUMBER ONE.AND NUMBER TWO, WE DO NOT I HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS.
I DON'T RELY ON CITY FUNDS FOR MY INCOME.
I HAVE MY OWN BUSINESS WITH THREE.
ALL RIGHT, NOW MOVING ON, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, IT'S NOT BASED ON FACTUAL INFORMATION. NOW MOVING ON TO RON WASSERMAN, MR. WASSERMAN. I KNOW YOU KNOW THE DRILL.
HI. GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS RON WASSERMAN.
I LIVE ON JAY DRIVE HERE IN TAMARAC, THREE, THREE, THREE, TWO, ONE.
I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SPEAKING TONIGHT ABOUT CERTAIN ISSUES AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT.
AND I CAN SPEAK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOOD IN MY COMMUNITY.
I CAN'T STAND US THRASHING ONE ANOTHER.
SOME OF US PROBABLY DESERVE IT.
I DON'T KNOW. THAT BE THE CASE, I HAVE TO GIVE A BIG HEARTY APPLAUSE TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO THE CHIEF.
ONE OTHER BEER, SO CAPTAIN JEFF CIRMINIELLO, YOU'RE A GOOD MAN, YOU RESPONDED TO ME.
YOU SAID PEOPLE OUT TO HELP US.
SOMEONE REPORTED THREE WEEKS AGO.
SOMEONE REPORTED THREE WEEKS AGO ABOUT A SCAM, SOMEONE WAS SCAMMING THEM.
MANY OF YOU SAW THEM NEXT DOOR.
SO I WENT TO CAPTAIN CIRMINIELLO.
SO WHAT DO WE DO? HE SAID TO ME, WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT DO YOU MEAN, RON? IT'S HAPPENED TO SOMEONE ELSE.
WE NEED TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US CLAIM SENIORS, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOOD, PLEASE.
DEBORAH, I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I'VE BEEN AT ODDS WITH YOU QUITE OFTEN, BUT YOU HAVE DONE MANY GOOD THINGS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. LASTLY.
COLON CANCER TRIED TO ATTACK ME.
COLON CANCER STOLE PART OF MY COLON, SO I'M ASKING EVERYONE GOT A LOT OF SENIORS HERE.
YOU SEE THAT COLON GOING ON TV ALL THE TIME, JUMPING AROUND.
PLEASE, FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT CANCER, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS GOING ON, BUT I'M BEGGING THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE 45 AND UP HAVE THEM TESTED. DON'T JUST ROLL.
THANK YOU, RON. AWESOME, THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ELIZABETH WALTER SPEAK, PLEASE.
THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO.
GOOD, GOOD. ALL RIGHT, ELIZABETH.
SUNFLOWER DEVELOPMENT, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER PLACKO A MONTH AGO, I CALLED IN REGARDING ISSUES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU CONTACTED ME THE NEXT DAY LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD, AND SAID YOU WOULD HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT COME OUT. I KNOW YOU THINK THAT IN ORDER FOR SOMETHING TO BE DONE WITH BETWEEN 30 AND FORTY FIVE DAYS, WELL, IT'S ABOUT 30 DAYS ALREADY.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ACTUALLY EVER DID COME OUT THERE.
YOU'D PROBABLY THERE'S STILL TRASH CANS THAT ARE LEFT IN THE STREET FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK, CARS PARKED FACING THE HOUSES.
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THERE'S ONE HOUSE IN MY DEVELOPMENT.THERE'S EIGHT CARS PARKED FACING THE HOUSE ALL ACROSS THE FRONT YARD, CARS, CARS BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS OUT, WALKING MY DOG.
THERE'S PEOPLE WITH THEIR LITTLE KIDS RIDING THEIR BIKES AND THEY HAVE TO GO AROUND CARS INTO THE STREET TO GO DOWN THE BLOCK.
SO IF YOU COULD LOOK INTO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SADLY GOING DOWNHILL.
I MOVED HERE IN 2003 BECAUSE OF ALL THE PLACES THAT I LOOKED AT, I FELT THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BEST NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MY MONEY.
ALL THE HOUSES WERE WELL CARED FOR.
IT WAS IT WAS A NICE PLACE TO BE.
AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY OPPOSITE THAT NOW.
I PAID OFF A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE IN 15 YEARS SO THAT I COULD HAVE A GOOD LIFE AND NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF DEBT. AND NOW I'M IN A POSITION WHERE I'M LOOKING TO MOVE OUT OF TAMARAC.
BECAUSE OF WHAT MY NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE, SO TECHNICALLY I'M GOING BACKWARDS, I WILL HAVE ANOTHER MORTGAGE AND AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
SECOND ITEM I SEE THAT WE'RE INCREASING THE BUDGET BY THREE POINT NINE DOLLARS MILLION.
AND PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT COULD BE PUT TO BETTER USE WITH ALL THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE UNNECESSARY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT AT THE BUDGET SECTION.
WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU COME BACK UP.
OK. ALL RIGHT. WELL, SIR, THE OTHER THING I HAVE TO SAY IS.
I THINK THE CITIZENS BUDGET COUNCIL IS AN AWESOME IDEA.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE DON'T RESPOND BACK, BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT EACH OF US HAVE HERE EVERYTHING THAT IS BEING SAID.
YOUR RESPECTIVE COMMISSIONER OR MYSELF, WHOMEVER IT WILL BE, WILL RESPOND BACK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR ISSUES.
SO PLEASE KNOW THAT I'M OK AT THIS TIME.
I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP FOR JUST A GENERAL NON BUDGET, NOT AN AGENDA ITEM.
MR. WEBSTER, ARE YOU FOR AN ITEM ON THE I HAVE YOU FOR AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
I JOTTED SOME THINGS DOWN ON THE CARD, BUT TWO THINGS ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED ME OUT OF MY MIND RIGHT NOW AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT I DON'T GET SHOCKED.
FIRST OFF, I SAW THAT ALL OF THE REMARKS BY THE VARIOUS COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY MANAGERS AND SO ON, THEIR REPORT IS IS OFF IT'S OFF THE AGENDA.
THAT HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA FOR FOREVER.
I, I DATE MYSELF, BUT A LOT OF THOSE I'VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH, A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THERE. AND I SEE THAT IT'S BEING ADDRESSED THE SECOND READING THIS EVENING.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I'M TALKING ABOUT ME ON BEHALF OF MY COMMUNITY AS WELL.
STUART WEBSTER, I FORGOT STUART WEBSTER, VISCOSE GARDENS, VERSAILLES GARDENS, PRECINCT COMMITTEEMEN, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE 12, 15 YEARS.
BUT THIS WOULD BE NORMALLY WHERE WE WOULD ASK YOU TO COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PART OF THE SECOND READING ON THE ORDINANCE TO DISCUSS THAT PART.
ABSOLUTELY. BUT THE FACT THAT TRADITION BUT IT'S NOT IS BEING CONSIDERED TO BE REMOVED IS REALLY DISGUSTING BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT.
ALL TOGETHER IN THAT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
BUT GO AHEAD. YES, BUT I TRUSTEE APPRECIATE.
OK, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DURING THAT ITEM MR. WEBSTER. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
OK, WELL, YOU ARE DEEMED YOU'RE BEING DIPLOMATIC.
AND I WASN'T I WAS THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE OTHER THING IS I'M A VERY STRONG TRADITIONALIST.
AND EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO DIRECT ANOTHER COMMISSIONER THAT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE FOR HIM TO SPEAK, HE HAD NO PROBLEMS. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.
AND WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN. I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT I THINK SOME OF US NEED TO THINK BEFORE WE ACT.
I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THE DIANE LASO SCHOLARSHIP.
I SAID THAT DIANE GLASSER, EVEN BEFORE SHE WAS MAYOR, I SAT AT HER FEET, FIXED HER
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COMPUTER, WAS AT OUR HOUSE, LEARNED SO INCREDIBLY MUCH FROM HER.THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PLACKO IS RECOGNIZING THIS FANTASTIC WOMAN.
SHE WAS FANTASTIC FOR THE CITY, THE COUNTY, THE STATE.
I AM REALLY EVEN MORE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FAIR CITY AND SOME OF THE VIBES THAT ARE COMING FROM IT. I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE I LOVE THIS CITY LIKE VERY.
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE LIKE VERY MANY OTHERS, OK? I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE AND BUT I WOULD ASK IF YOU COULD GIVE ME ANOTHER 30 SECONDS AND LET ME WRAP UP.
MR. WEBSTER, DO YOU INTEND ON SPEAKING DURING THE OTHER ITEM? NO, I DON'T. OK, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A REALLY FULL HOUSE TODAY AND A LOT TO DISCUSS. YES, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO GIVE ME A MINUTE OR YOU ASKED FOR 30 SECONDS. YOU GOT 30 SECONDS.
THERE YOU GO. THAT'S KNOWN AS A NEGOTIATION.
OK, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER, THE THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONER, THE COMMISSIONER ASKS HIM TO DO IS TO NEGOTIATE DOWN THE EXORBITANT, EXORBITANT AND OBSCENE FEES FROM THE PREVIOUS ATTORNEY.
WE MUST LEARN TO SAY NO AND WE MUST LEARN TO NEGOTIATE.
THANK YOU. I'LL BE BACK AGAIN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WEBSTER. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
ALL RIGHT. NOW, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? OK, I'M GOING TO TURN TO OUR CITY CLERK AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ONLINE.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ONLINE TODAY, MADAM.
EXCELLENT. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NOW, I AM GOING TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO APPROVE A CHANGE IN THE AGENDA AND MOVE ITEM 12, THE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION, ELIMINATING THE TAMIRA SPORTS COMPLEX AS A POTENTIAL
[12.b. Discussion and direction eliminating the Tamarac Sports Complex as a potential site for an IAAF certified track]
CIPHER ON IAF CERTIFIED TRACK TO BE DISCUSSED NOW VERSUS WAITING UNTIL THE END OF THE AGENDA. DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND EXCELLENT DECLARED.GOMEZ. YES. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TO ZERO.
EXCELLENT. NOW THIS IS ALSO ONE OF THOSE HYBRID THINGS THAT WE STARTED DURING COVID IS AN ITEM THAT A COMMISSIONER OR IN THIS CASE THE VICE MAYOR HAS BROUGHT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND THEN USUALLY WE HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BEFORE THE COMMISSION HAS DISCUSSION, BUT ON THIS ONE, I AM GOING TO ASK THE VICE MAYOR TO I GUESS THIS A DELAY. I'M GOING TO ASK THE VICE MAYOR TO BRING UP THE TOPIC AND WE WILL THEN HAVE A COMMENT FROM THE COMMISSION AND THEN SEEING HOW EVERYTHING ROLLS, WE WILL THEN GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS. OK, THANK YOU, MADAM.
CAN I SEE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.
WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE VICE MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO NOT ONLY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, BUT ALSO ADDRESS THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
YOU ALL DO HAVE A SET OF RULES, INCLUDING DECORUM STANDARDS.
IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC OR FOR ANY COMMISSIONER TO PERSONALIZE THE COMMENTS WITH REGARD TO ISSUES THAT ARE COMING BEFORE YOU.
THERE IS A RIGHT WAY AND A WRONG WAY TO MAKE COMMENTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING COMMISSIONERS BY NAME AND AND AND DEMONIZING THEM, FRANKLY, IS IS INAPPROPRIATE.
THERE IS A YOU KNOW, THOSE THOUGHTS, THOSE MESSAGES OF THE CONSTITUENTS, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN BE CONVEYED PROPERLY AND AND WITHOUT VIOLATING THE RULES OF DECORUM.
AND I KNOW THAT THESE ISSUES THAT YOU WERE GOING TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING ARE PASSIONATE, THAT PEOPLE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC AND VIEWS AND ATTITUDES WITH REGARD TO THAT.
BUT I WOULD ASK THAT EVERYONE, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE INCLUDED, CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN A PROPER MANNER AND CONSISTENT WITH THE RULES OF DECORUM SO WE CAN HEAR EVERYONE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. AND GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, FOR COMING OUT, SHOWING UP.
IT'S VERY NICE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY SHOW UP WHEN WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS EVERYONE,
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NOT JUST IN EVERYONE'S ANYONE'S DISTRICT, BUT THE ENTIRE CITY.WHEN IT IMPACTS US FINANCIALLY, WHEN IT IMPACTS OUR LIVELIHOOD, WHEN IT IMPACTS OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AROUND TOWN.
THE WAY THAT THE TRACK WAS PRESENTED WAS IMPROPER.
AND I THINK MY COLLEAGUES WOULD ALSO AGREE WITH THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO PUT THIS UP FOR A MOTION TO ELIMINATE THE TRACK.
RIGHT. EVEN BEFORE DOING A STUDY ON IT.
THERE IS NO NEED WHEN WE ALREADY KNOW THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITY IS NOT THERE.
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE COST WILL NOT STOP AT THREE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.
WE KNOW THAT THE STUDY IS GOING TO BE VERY LONG.
PROCESS TO PROLONG THE PROCESS TO NEXT YEAR IS INAPPROPRIATE, IS JUST GOING TO CAUSE MORE STRESS FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND AT THIS MOMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND ELIMINATE ITEM OF THE TRACK OUT IT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ELIMINATE THE TRACK FROM DISCUSSION.
AND AT THIS TIME, I AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO IN THAT MOTION ANY ANY SIZE, ANY OUTSIDE OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED WOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THERE.
SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD ALTER THE CURRENT SPORTS COMPLEX, BASICALLY THE MOTION, AS I HEARD IT IN THE CITY CLERK WILL CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THE MOTION IS A GENERAL MOTION THAT THERE WILL BE NO TRACK AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR ONE ROUND OF DISCUSSION ON IT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
UNLESS THE CITY ATTORNEY TELLS ME THAT I NEED TO GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FIRST BECAUSE WE'RE MODIFYING THIS TO NOW BE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT IS NOW IN MOTION.
AND I GET THE SENSE THAT HE IS SAYING, YES, PLEASE.
SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OUR AUDIENCE, WHETHER THEY'RE HERE, THE PATIO ON ROOM 105.
I KNOW WE RECEIVED A PETITION OF QUITE A FEW.
I THINK IT WAS ALMOST ELEVEN HUNDRED SIGNATURES ON IT THIS MORNING.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANY MORE WERE PUT ON IT SINCE.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING FROM HOME.
THE NEWEST SIGN UP SHEET OF PEOPLE, SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT IF YOU SO WISH TO SPEAK, THAT'S FINE, OR IF YOU WISH TO COME UP OR JUST SAY, I'M SPEAKING ON A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND JUST SAY THE SAME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE DON'T KEEP EVERYBODY HERE ALL NIGHT IF YOU ARE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING AT METAMORA.
YES. TEACHER, IF I MAY, I'M SITTING HERE.
SORRY, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS EMOTION AND THERE HAS BEEN A SECOND.
SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST PROCEDURALLY IS TO TABLE THE MOTION PENDING PUBLIC COMMENT.
OTHERWISE, PROCEDURALLY, THE APPROPRIATE THING WOULD BE TO MOVE INTO THE DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AND THEORETICALLY VOTE ON THE ITEM WITHOUT TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO TABLE THE ITEM TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I SAID ON THE FIRST ROUND AND THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS NOT CORRECT.
SO ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO TABLE IT AT THE MOMENT FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. OK, I'LL SECOND THAT THEN I'M GOING TO MAKE A POINT OF ORDER.
I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAD A MOTION BEFORE.
WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S SAYING IS THAT NOW WE HAVE TWO MOTIONS NOW WOULD HAVE THREE MOTIONS, INCLUDING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
SO I MOTION FIRST AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR WHAT THE ITEM IS.
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR IT FROM THE PUBLIC.
VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS MADE A SECOND MOTION.
YOU CANNOT DO THAT. WE HAD A MOTION TO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
HERE'S THE SITUATION, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
YOU'RE ALL HERE. YOU WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
SO THAT IS WHAT WE UNDERSTAND.
NOW, IF THERE IS ONE, WE ARE TRYING TO TABLE THE MOTION SO WE DON'T SPEAK FIRST TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
HOWEVER, WE CAN REMOVE THAT TABLE FROM TABLING IT, REMOVE THE OPTION FOR YOUR FREEDOM TO SPEAK, AND WE CAN JUST DECIDE THE MATTER AND PROCEED WITH THE EVENING, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE THE QUICKER WAY TO DO IT ON THIS ITEM.
SO IF YOU WILL, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE ATTORNEY GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, NOT HAVE THE TABLE AND JUST HAVE THE COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON THIS.
OR ALTERNATIVELY TO YOU, CAN THE VICE MAYOR CAN WITHDRAW HIS MOTION.
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THE THE COMMISSIONER PLACKO CAN WITHDRAW HER SECOND.AND THEN AT THE CONCLUSION, THE PUBLIC COMMENT, A NEW MOTION CAN BE MADE AND IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION. YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ITEM AS IT'S CURRENTLY ON THE TABLE, OR YOU CAN WITHDRAW THE THE ITEM FROM THE TABLE, FROM CONSIDERATION BY MAKING A MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE SECONDED.
AND THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO THEN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
OK, I'M GOING TO TURN TO THE VICE MAYOR.
I LIKE TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION.
WHICH ONE? SO WE CAN ACCEPT THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
OK, SO THE TABLING MOTION IS GONE AND THE MOTION TO ELIMINATE THE TRACK RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ON A CLEAN SLATE. CAN I MAKE A MOTION FOR A CLEAN SLATE? WE'RE MAKING A MOTION TO ERASE THE LAST FIVE MINUTES OF THE MEDIA.
YES, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT OF A MOTION.
OH, WE ALREADY HAVE THE MOTION.
SO NOW LIVE TV AND WE JUST GOT TO GIVE THEM THE PUBLIC WHO WILL SPEAK.
IT'S REALLY COMMISSIONER, I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING MANAMI OF THE ITEMS SAYS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION, ELIMINATING THE TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX AS A POTENTIAL SITE FOR AN EYE, A F CERTIFIED TRACK.
THE ITEM ALREADY SAYS THAT THE VICE MAYOR WANTS TO REMOVE IT.
WE ALREADY MOTION THE ITEM IN.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS DISCUSS IT.
THE PUBLIC SPEAKS AND THEN WE MAKE A MOTION TO TO MOVE ON.
THAT'S ALL. WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE A MOTION INTO THE MATTER. MAYOR, I WILL I WILL TELL ALL THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT THE RULES, YOU KNOW, THAT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER REALLY ARE ARCHAIC AND NOT NECESSARILY WELL SUITED FOR SMALL MEETING OR BOARDS SUCH AS THIS.
I'M NOT A STICKLER WITH THE RULES.
IF YOU ALL WISH TO DO IT THAT WAY, AS SUGGESTED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY. THERE'S IT IS UP TO YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE YOU ENGAGE IN DISCUSSION OR AS AS THE THE.
THE. WHICH IS THE MOTION ON THE TABLE OR THAT MOTION CAN BE WITHDRAWN.
EITHER WAY, YOU GET TO THE SAME PLACE, WHICH IS YOU WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
YES, WE WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING TO PLEASE TURN YOUR MIC OFF COMMISSIONER GELIN.
I SEE THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK. I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU IN TURN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TRYING TO AVOID THE FEEDBACK.
WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION FIRST AND THEN IT'LL BE DETERMINED WHETHER THE PUBLIC WILL WANT TO SPEAK. THAT WAS THE FIRST WAY IN WHICH WE WERE HANDLING IT.
SO THAT IS THE WAY WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT.
SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT ALL, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO REMOVE THE TRACK. THE COMMISSION WILL NOW DISCUSS AFTER ONE ROUND OF OUR DISCUSSION WITH A MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES FOR EACH OF US, WE WILL THEN ASK IF PEOPLE STILL WISH TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS THEREAFTER, OK? AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION, MAKE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS IF NECESSARY, OR JUST CALL THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT, THE FIRST PERSON WHO I HAD ON MY LITTLE THING HERE WAS COMMISSIONER, GELIN, COMMISSIONER GELIN.
PLEASE PROCEED. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
NOT OFTEN THAT WE HAVE A LARGE AUDIENCE AT OUR COMMISSIONER MEETINGS, BUT IT IS GREAT TO ALWAYS SEE RESIDENTS INVOLVED AND ENGAGE IN MATTERS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.
SO YOU ARE HERE PRIMARILY BECAUSE AN EMAIL OR YOU RECEIVED A FLIER AND THE KINGS POINT NEWSPAPER. I WON'T READ IT ALL, BUT IT SAYS ATTENTION TO ALL KINGS POINT RESIDENTS, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE OF ITS REMARKS, PROPOSING TO TAKE AWAY THE BALLFIELD AND WALKING TRACK UNAPPEALING. SEVENTY SEVENTH AVENUE, THE PROPOSALS TO BUILD A 10000 SEATS OUT OF FIVE OLYMPIC SIZED TRACK FOR HOLDING CONCERTS AND SPORTING EVENTS AND OTHER TYPE OF SHOWS.
THEN IT GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT A PARKING LOT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO THIS EMAIL ANNOUNCEMENT WAS SENT TO THE COMMISSION BY LYNN SHAW, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT FOR KINGS POINT.
AND WHEN SHE SENT THE EMAIL, I IMMEDIATELY RESPONDED.
SO SHE SENT THE EMAIL ON MAY 10TH AT 118 P.M.
AND AT THE SAME DATE AT 121 PM.
THREE MINUTES LATER, I RESPONDED.
I SAID, HI, LYNN, WHY ARE YOU PUTTING FALSE INFORMATION IN THE KINGS POINT NEWSPAPER? SHE RESPONDED AT ONE THIRTY FOUR PM.
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GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER GELIN.AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE A FIFTY FIVE.
I KNOW YOU GUYS AREN'T FIVE. FIFTY FIVE YEARS OLD AND OLDER COMMUNITY WITH 9000 RESIDENTS LIVING AT KINGS POINT. YOU SAY THAT THIS IS FALSE INFORMATION.
WHY IS IT ON THE COMMISSIONER AGENDA AGAIN THIS WEEK? THE COMMITTEE DOES NOT WANT OR NEED ANY MORE CHANGES TO THE PARK.
TRY STRAIGHTENING OUT UP THE TRAFFIC FIRST, OR AS OUR RESIDENTS ARE BEING INJURED BY THE MANY ACCIDENTS CAUSED BECAUSE THERE ARE NO POLICE PRESENCE.
THIS WILL CREATE A NIGHTMARE FOR THE WHOLE KINGS POINT COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE WILL INFORM ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND I RESPONDED AT THREE 00, SEVEN P.M., THE ARTICLE BEING SUBMITTED IS FULL OF FALSE STATEMENTS, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.
YOU SHOULD FIRST UNDERSTAND THE FACTS AND THEN REPORT THE FACTS.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, YOU FOLKS ARE HERE BASED ON FALSE INFORMATION.
THE ONLY PROPOSAL THAT I RECOMMENDED WAS THAT WE HAVE A RUBBERIZED SOFT TRACK THAT SURROUNDS EITHER THE FOOTBALL FIELD OR THE EXISTING SOCCER FIELD.
AND RECOGNIZING THAT THERE WAS A CALL TO HAVE YOU FOLKS COME OUT HERE BASED ON FALSE INFORMATION. SOME OF YOU RECEIVED A TEXT MESSAGE FROM ME TODAY AND LEVENT, WILL YOU PULL UP THE POWERPOINT I SENT? AND THE TEXT ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO APPROXIMATELY I'LL GET TO IT NOW.
SO THERE'S THE TEXT. IT'S A PERSONALIZED TEXT, SO WHERE DID THE DATA COME FROM? I WENT TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS OFFICE AND I MADE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR EVERY VOTER IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
IT WAS LOADED INTO A SYSTEM AND I EMAILED EVERY RESIDENT.
TERREMARK CITY COMMISSION IS CONSIDERING A VOTE.
TARASOV RUBBERIZED TRACKING THE TERREMARK SPORTS COMPLEX.
THIS NEW EDITION WOULD GIVE OUR COMMUNITY, SENIORS AND YOUTH, A SOFTER SURFACE TO EXERCISE AND PLAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE A TRACK ADDED TO OUR SPORTS COMPLEX? AND THERE'S ONE RESPONSE LEVENT.
IF YOU'LL JUST CLICK, AS I SAY NEXT AND JUST LET'S JUST WATCH THE RESPONSES FROM THE RESIDENTS. YES.
BRING OUT YOUR KIDS. YES, NEXT.
SYLVIA, SYLVIA, TWISTA, IT WILL BE GREAT, BUT ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE OTHER INVESTMENTS IN OUR LOVELY COMMUNITY TO MAKE MORE SAFE AND BEAUTIFUL, NEXT.
SYLVIA BANTEN YES, I WOULD NEXT, ROBERT WHITE, A QUARTER MILE FOR METER, THE TRACK WOULD BE GREAT. AS A LONG TERM RUNNER, I WOULD DEFINITELY USE IT NEXT.
ANTHONY MORMAN, YES, FULL EIGHT LANES, PROBABLY MARK FOR TRACK, MARIA ORTIZ SALDANA YES.
ABSOLUTELY, YES. JANELLE BERMAN, NEXT.
LAWRENCE GORENG, HE RAN AGAINST ME FOR THE DISTRICT TO COMMISSIONER SEAT, YES, BUT NO AIDS FOR FURNITURE. NEXT, STEPHANIE STRACHMAN.
YES, NEXT. FRANCISCA REYES, OF COURSE, THAT WILL BE SUPER BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE, FOR EVERYONE. NEXT. PAULA STEINBERG, NO, I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE THE PART CHANGE, WE DO NOT NEED A TRACK. WE ALREADY HAVE ONE WALKING PATH WITH A VIEW OF WATER.
WILDLIFE AND BENCHES DO NOT BREAK IT.
WHAT IS BROKEN? YOU'LL RUIN THE PARK THAT SERVES ALL AGES FOR MANY WONDERFUL OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. NEXT. I PROBABLY WOULDN'T USE IT, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T GOOD PLANT NEXT. I THINK A TRACK WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX NEXT.
AND NOBODY WANTS IT. STOP WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS OR MONEY NEXT.
NEXT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GELIN.
WE GOT THE POINT THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE REACHED OUT TO AND THEY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. ALL RIGHT.
AND I JUST GOING TO KNOW YOU'VE HAD YOUR FIVE MINUTES.
I COULD SUMMARIZE TO GIVE THE FACTS TO THE AUDIENCE.
THIS WENT OUT TO OK, AND THAT'S FINE.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER GELIN, PLEASE MEET MIKE COMMISSIONER.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING.
RESIDENTS, SO COMMISSIONER GELIN BROUGHT THIS IDEA UP FIRST TIME AT A COMMISSIONER RETREAT AND VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS WAS NOT AT THAT TIME ELECTED ON THE CITY COMMISSION.
SO ALL OF US HAD THE PLEASURE OF HEARING COMMISSIONER GELIN PROPOSAL
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FOR A TRACK AND COMMISSION.AND STAFF WOULD RECALL THAT I WAS ADAMANTLY AGAINST A TRACK OF SOME SORT IN TAMARAC.
AND MY COLLEAGUES, WHEN THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, CAN ATTEST TO THAT FACT.
A TIME ELAPSED AND I HAD SOME THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD THINK THAT COMMISSIONER GELIN AND I VOTE ON A LOT OF ITEMS TOGETHER.
BUT BUT REALLY AND TRULY, WE VOTE AGAINST ITEMS MORE THAN WE VOTE TOGETHER.
AND AT THE COMMISSION MEETING WHERE THE VICE MAYOR SAID THAT HE WAS NOT PRIVY TO ALL OF THAT CONVERSATION, I SAID COMMISSIONER GELIN SHOULD GO FORWARD WITH FINDING OUT WHY THE STRIKE IS IMPORTANT AND WHY TAMRAT NEEDS THE TRACK.
I'M ALWAYS A PROPONENT OF FEASIBILITY STUDIES, AND THIS IS WHAT WE ASKED FOR AT THE MEETING. WHEN COMMISSIONER GELIN ASKED FOR THE TRACK, WE ASKED FOR A FULL FEASIBILITY STUDY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IN TAMARAC THE TRACK WOULD BE.
FEASIBILITY STUDIES ARE GREAT BECAUSE PARKS AND RECREATION COMES OUT, SENDS YOU INFORMATION. YOU GET MAILERS OR TEXT MESSAGES OR EMAILS.
HOWEVER THEY SEND THE INFORMATION AND THEN YOU SEND YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOU TELL US WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT.
SO IF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY WENT OUT, THEN IF FROM THE COMFORT OF YOUR HOME, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TELL US WHETHER YOU WANT THE TRACK OR NOT.
AT THAT TIME, THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE SAID, YES, THE KINGS POINT AREA IS NOT SUITABLE FOR THE TRACK. SO I'M FOR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY BECAUSE IT TELLS US WHETHER OR NOT THE.
THE PROPERTY IS FOR THE TRACKPAD, NOT YOU'RE SAYING TONIGHT THAT YOU DO NOT WANT IT.
I HAVE A COLLECTOR'S ITEM THERE.
YOU SAY THAT YOU DO NOT WANT IT.
WE WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY TONIGHT.
BUT AGAIN, FEASIBILITY STUDIES ARE GREAT, AND THAT'S A WAY FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I FORGOT I FORGOT TO PUSH MY BUTTON.
I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT I AM OPEN TO NEW INNOVATIVE IDEAS AND I WILL CONSIDER ANY IDEA AND ITS FEASIBILITY IN LOOKING AT WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
THIS JUST DOES NOT FIT AND THAT REALLY IS OUR REALITY.
AND AS MUCH AS WE MAY WANT A TRACK, IT IS NOT GOING TO SIT THERE.
AND THAT'S THE WAY I AM LOOKING AT IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
PLEASE PUT YOUR MICROPHONE ON MUTE.
OK, SO JUST AS FAIRNESS, I WILL PUT ME ON FIVE MINUTES TO.
I DON'T THINK I'LL TAKE THE WHOLE THING AS COMMISSIONER BOLTON SAID, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS BROUGHT UP FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING A COUPLE A YEAR OR SO AGO, MAYBE.
TWO YEARS AGO, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS THAT LONG, ACTUALLY, IT WAS BEFORE NOVEMBER TWENTY EIGHTEEN AT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS AND THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF SAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT A STUDY AND WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT.
BUT WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME ISSUES IF IT WAS TO GO INTO ANY OF OUR CURRENT PARKS AT THIS TIME JUST BECAUSE OUR CITY IS VERY WELL PLANNED OUT.
AND THERE WOULD BE A STUDY DONE WHEN IT COMES TO BIG TIME, BECAUSE THESE ITEMS ALL TAKE MONEY IF FEASIBLE. BILLIONS OF THESE STUDIES, CITY MANAGER ON THE ESTIMATED COST FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THIS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THE COST OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WAS PROPOSED BY STAN TECH WAS, I THINK, SIXTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. YES.
SIXTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO A STUDY OF SOMETHING THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT IS VERY CLEAR FROM COMMUNITY INPUT IS NOT WANTED IN A LOCATION.
IT IS CLEAR FROM CITY STAFF, ORIGINAL JUST INSPECTION OF THINGS AND KNOWING OUR CITY, IT IS NOT GOING TO FIT IN THAT LOCATION.
WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OTHER PLANNING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING IT WHEN WE REDO THE NPC AND PUTTING AN INSIDE TRACK.
AT THAT TIME IT WAS NOT AN IAF TRACK.
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IT WAS A TRACK. IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A REAL TRACK INSIDE.WE RECEIVED SOME BEAUTIFUL EMAILS WELL WRITTEN WITH SOMEBODY WHO AND I KNOW THE PERSON'S NAME, BUT I'M JUST NOT SAYING WHOSE SON WAS A TRACK AND FIELD AND HOW MUCH YOU REALLY DON'T DO THIS OUTSIDE IS MORE OF AN INSIDE SPORT, OXYGEN AND ALL KINDS OF GOOD STUFF.
THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR US THINKING THAT IF WE BUILD IT, IT WILL COME.
IT'S VERY NICE THAT OTHER PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING OUR CITY'S MONEY ON A TRACK.
I THINK THAT IF WE BUILD A TRACK, IF WE DO A NEW PARK, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE HAD A STUDY BEING DONE FOR A NEW PARK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY.
IF IT FITS, THEY'RE WONDERFUL.
IF IT FITS WITHIN THAT NEW PARK DESIGN, IF IT FITS IN WITH A NEW PARK DESIGN OR THE NEW BUILDING DESIGN FOR AN INDOOR TRACK FOR THE NPC.
WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE STUDY, GREAT.
BUT AS FOR PRIORITIES FOR OUR CITY, I DO NOT THINK A TRACK IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR US AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE A GREAT SISTER CITY ACROSS THE STREET OF CORAL SPRINGS.
THEY HAVE TRACK THERE, THEY HAVE TRACK IN SUNRISE, THEY HAVE TRACK AND OTHER CITIES.
AND IF OUR RESIDENTS UP AND DONE SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW MY OPINION, MY FIVE MINUTES ARE UP. I GUESS I'M ON LONGER THAN EXPECTED.
THANK YOU. SO NOW AT THIS TIME, YOU HAVE HEARD THE THOUGHTS OF THE COMMISSION AND WE ANNOUNCED THAT WE WERE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'LL BE THREE MINUTES AT THE MINE.
I AM GOING TO AGAIN ASK IF MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME MAYBE THREE PEOPLE.
THAT COULD BE THE SPOKES PEOPLE.
I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE ONLINE OR CITY ATTORNEY.
IS THERE A WAY FOR ME TO JUST SAY IF EVERYBODY WHO IS NOT FOR THE TRACK TO PLEASE STAND? THEY YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT YOU MUST YOU DO HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. OK, SO.
AND ACTUALLY, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE HARD BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE OUTSIDE ON THE PATIO AND I CAN'T SEE INTO ROOM ONE OF FIVE AND I CAN'T SEE THE PEOPLE ONLINE.
SO WE'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LINE AND.
ASK YOU TO COME UP IF YOU WISH TO STATE YOUR OPINION.
OK, SO GOT FOR THE BUDGET, THANK YOU.
WILLIAM VILLALOBOS, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
AZARIAN. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT CAME TO MY MIND WHEN I HEARD ABOUT A TRACK.
YOU'VE ADDRESSED MOST OF THEM DURING YOUR DISCUSSION.
BUT BESIDES THE FEASIBILITY STUDY OF SIXTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS, EVEN IF THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY SHOWED THAT THAT COST WOULD BE FINE, IT COULD BE THERE.
YOU HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
YOU NEED A PARKING STUDY, YOU NEED OTHER OTHER STUDIES TO DETERMINE IF THAT IS THE CORRECT AREA. SO THAT INITIAL COSTS FOR JUST ONE STUDY WILL PROBABLY COST UPWARDS OF TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND POUNDS.
ALL DONE. SO I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CITY, BUT THE PUBLIC'S THE WAY IT IS NOW HOLDS.
BASKETBALL, SOFTBALL, BASEBALL, SOCCER, SKATING RINK, WALKING PATH.
TONS OF ACTIVITIES FOR MANY PEOPLE TO DO, SO I THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.
THERE ARE THE SPEAKERS PROBABLY TO TALK ABOUT THE SAME THING, SO I WON'T TAKE UP ALL THE TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THANK YOU. WILLIAM VULGARIS, 79, 93, EXETER BOULEVARD WEST, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE EXETER NEIGHBORHOOD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
A POINT OF ORDER. I MEAN, IF IF THE CITY COMMISSION WERE TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY OR AT LEAST SHOW THEM HOW WE'RE INCLINED TO VOTE, IF IF THEY REALIZED THAT THIS WOULD NOT PASS OR PASS, THEN MAYBE THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND ABOUT ABOUT SPENDING 30 MINUTES TALKING.
SO IF EACH OF US COULD JUST SEE HOW WE'RE INCLINED TO VOTE SO THAT THEY KNOW IF IT WOULD PASS OR NOT PASS, BECAUSE THEN IF IT'S IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE TRACK, THEN THERE'S NO REASON FOR FOR ALL OF THEM TO COME AND SPEAK FOR 30 MINUTES.
THEY'RE TAKING AWAY FROM THEIR TIME OF WATCHING THEIR FAVORITE SHOWS.
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SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NOT TO HAVE THE TRUCK IN AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.LADY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COME ON, COMMISSIONER.
I AGREE. AND THAT'S WHY I SAID EVERYBODY I HOPE HAS HEARD US.
BUT I WAS ADVISED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT I HAVE TO ALLOW PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. SO THEREFORE, HE DID SAY BUT HE DID SAY THAT THEY CAN SAY THEY'LL PASS SOMETHING THING CALLED WAVERING SUPPORT, BUT THEY HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO AT THIS TIME.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A PERSON WHO HAS CHOSEN NOT TO ACCEPT MR. GOLDBERG, WHO HAS CHOSEN THAT HE WILL NOT SPEAK ON TRACK BECAUSE I HAVE YOU FOR TRACKING BUDGET. SO HE HAS CHOSEN NOT TO.
I AM TRYING TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES I COMMISSIONER I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO.
BUT WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK.
HI, MY NAME IS BARRY ROTAR, I LIVE IN KINGS POINT, I WILL MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET.
I WILL ADDRESS COMMISSIONER GELIN.
I THINK YOUR PROPOSAL ACTUALLY I THINK YOU HAD A LOT OF HUTZPAH WITH YOUR PROPOSAL.
AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HUTZPAH IS, YOU COULD ASK SOMEONE NOW KAHUNAS.
I WASN'T REFERRING TO SPANISH, BUT NONETHELESS, YOUR PROPOSAL, IF IMPLEMENTED, WOULD CAUSE CONGESTION.
A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID TRAFFIC TO BE A LOT OF NOISE.
PERHAPS THE PARKING AREA, KINGS POINT, WE WOULD NEED GUARDS BECAUSE I WAS THERE TONIGHT BEFORE I CAME HERE.
AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, AROUND THE SOCCER FIELD, GUESS WHAT? I SAW PEOPLE JOGGING, PEOPLE RUNNING.
THERE IS AN AREA IT'S A GRASS AREA WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY RUN AROUND.
IT'S NOT AN OLYMPIC TYPE TRACK, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SUFFICIENT FOR PEOPLE TO GET THEIR EXERCISE. I KNOW I USE IT AND OTHER PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO USE IT.
MY SUGGESTION IS BEFORE THE COMMISSION IS TALKING ABOUT TABLING IT, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES, BUT I WOULD HAVE HOPED THAT YOU WOULD HAVE REMOVED THIS PROPOSAL AND ADDED ANOTHER PROPOSAL.
THAT PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO HAVE.
WHAT DO YOU PLAN FOR THE KINGS POINT AREA IN HAMPTON HILLS WHERE YOU LIVE AND YOU COULD ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THE TRACK RIGHT NEAR YOUR HOME.
THANK YOU. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SPEAKERS AND WE'RE WE ARE NOT HAVING A BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION, WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO ERNIE DUARINGA AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED ANYBODY'S NAME.
YOU'RE GOING TO PASS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PATRICIA CERNECH.
AND I ALSO CAN'T SEE CERNECH AWAY.
THANK YOU, MISS. IT IS MICHELSEN.
OK, EDITH IS NOT HERE OR WISHING TO SPEAK.
I'VE GOT CARRIED WATER, MAYOR, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND PERHAPS CITY ATTORNEY CAN CONFIRM, I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST WAITING FOR US TO VOTE.
EVERYONE HAS THE SAME COMMENTS AND SENTIMENTS ON THIS SITUATION.
AND UNLESS I THINK SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING NEW THAT CAN BE ADDED, CAN AND VICE MAYOR, I DO HEAR YOU. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
BUT AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY OPINES, WE MUST GIVE THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
AND THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY HERE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN WHAT WE BELIEVE IS.
THAT'S OK. METAMORA FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND I AND MANY OF THE PEOPLE HERE VOTE.
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AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE PARK TECHAMERICA ADVERTISES ITSELF AS A CITY FOR YOUR LIFE. THE PARK IS A FAMILY PARK.YOU WATCH THE PLAYGROUND WHERE THE MOTHERS BRING THE BABIES.
YOU WATCH THE LITTLE LEAGUERS PLAYING BASEBALL.
IT'S ALSO A PLACE WHERE THE KIDS GET TO SEE ABOUT NATURE.
YOU HAVE THE BURROWING OWLS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS AN ENDANGERED SPECIES LIVING IN THE PARK. YOU HAVE EITHER THE GEESE, YOU HAVE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND SIT.
THERE ARE BENCHES BY THE WATER AND PEOPLE CAN SIT AND CONTEMPLATE LIFE AND RELAX.
IT IS NOT A PLACE TO PUT A STADIUM FOR 10000 PEOPLE AND CARS, AND WE NEED OUR PEACE AND QUIET ASIDE FROM ALL THE TRAFFIC AREAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I REMIND YOU, PLEASE HAPPY HANDS AS WE CALL THEM, OR SNAP, SNAP, SNAP. AND I WHAT I'M GOING TO DO BECAUSE, YES, I APOLOGIZE.
I DID REALIZE THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING OUT ARE SITTING OUTSIDE OR MAYBE IN ROOM 105 AND EVERYBODY ON THE WEB WILL GET TO.
SO I'M GOING TO READ TWO NAMES AT A TIME, THE FIRST ONE, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WILL BE ON DECK. WE'RE HERE PLAYING BASEBALL AND WE HAVE GREAT BASEBALL FIELDS AT THE PARK.
SO THE NEXT ONE ON DECK IS CARRIE POLLOCK.
NEXT ONE UP IS CARRIE POLLOCK.
I'M GOING TO EVERYONE IS GETTING MY FRIENDS IN, SO I'M GOING TO GO.
ALL RIGHT. SO CARRIE PASSES, TERRY PASSES.
MARIANNE GILL AND JULIE FISCHMAN ON DECK.
I'M GOING TO PASS. WHAT I FEEL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
I'VE GOT NICOLE BOUCHET AS UN READY TO GO AND THEN I HAVE RIDGEBACK ON DECK, NICOLE.
OH, SORRY, AND DOUBLE DECK WOULD BE MORTEN'S HERE, DOUBLE DASH, RIGHT.
HELLO, MY NAME IS NICOLE BACHU, I'M IN DISTRICT FOUR, I'M A NEW RESIDENT OF TAMARAC.
I'VE ONLY MOVED HERE DURING THE PANDEMIC.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS THE FAMILY ASPECT OF THE PARK, 13 ACRES BEING DEDICATED TO PARKING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD EVER ENVISION FOR A PARK, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FAMILY ORIENTED.
THE. I F FEATURE OF THIS TRACK IS WHAT I OBJECT TO THE MOST, HAVING A TRACK IN GENERAL ISN'T AN ISSUE, AND I FELT THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S TEXT, WHICH I RECEIVED, WAS DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE IT MENTIONED THE FACT OF THE.
RUBBER AND TRYING TO BE ASSISTED TO CHILDREN AND SENIORS BY THE IAF FEATURE IS WHAT MAKES THIS TRACK UNACCEPTABLE TO OUR PARKS SYSTEM.
IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ELSE, YOU CAN TAKE THAT SAME TARMAC, THAT SAME RUBBERIZED SURFACE AND PUT THAT ON THE WALKING PATH AND PROPERLY LIGHT THE WALKING PATH AROUND THE PARK SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE MORE COMFORT TO THEIR JOINTS.
BUT IT WON'T COST YOU THREE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH IS A NO.
I DON'T BELIEVE BECAUSE THE NAME NATHANIEL TREIS PARALLEL PARK OR STADIUM ON NORTH MIAMI DADE CAMPUS IS THE HOST OF NOT ONLY THE UNIVERSITY, BUT SEVEN HIGH SCHOOLS.
AND FOR THE NFL AND NIKE TO JUST BRING IT UP TO DATE AS PART OF THE 2020 SUPER BOWL, COST THEM TWO MILLION DOLLARS.
SO THERE'S NO WAY I COULD SEE THIS PROJECT ONLY COSTING THREE POINT FIVE MIL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MORNING, MARIN, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ MY LETTER BECAUSE EVERYONE'S PRETTY MUCH SET IT, BUT I'M GOING TO ADD THAT THE PARKING AT THE PARK RIGHT NOW IS HORRENDOUS AND IT BRINGS TEN THOUSAND PEOPLE IN THERE AND HAVE PARKING LIKE THAT WOULD BE EVEN ATROCIOUS.
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT'S THERE NOW AND THE RUBBERIZED MATT THAT HE WANTS TO PUT DOWN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT THAT FROM.
MAYBE HE SHOULD GO BACK IN THE GROUP AND REREAD IT.
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IT WAS A TEN THOUSAND SEAT ARENA.THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT, PLEASE. THAT WAS A FALSE STATEMENT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BAIT HERE.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR A DEBATE MORE.
SURE. AND THEN ON DECK, WE HAVE STAN WARSHAW AND LAURIE WASHOW ON DOUBLE DECKER.
GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS MORTON, SURE, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF YODLEE AT KINGS POINT, I SPEAK AND I SPEAK TODAY FOR EACH AND EVERY RESIDENT.
AND RESIDE IN THE VILLAGE OF YOLLY WITH ALL THE RESIDENTS OF KINGS POINT.
ALL UNITS IN YODLEE FACE THE PARK.
THIS ARENA WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS YOU ARE TAKING AWAY, NOT ONLY THE PRIVACY IN THE HOMES, BUT THE NOISE AND LIGHTING WHICH WILL REFLECT INTO THE WINDOWS OF THEIR HOMES. THESE ARE ELDERLY RESIDENTS, MANY WITH UNDERLYING CONDITIONS.
AND BUILDING THIS ARENA CAN PRESENT A PROBLEM FOR THEIR HEALTH BY THE EXCESSIVE NOISE BICYCLE'S AND THE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE PROPER REST IF THE ARENA IS APPROVED, THIS WILL CAUSE YODLEE, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST TO THE ARENA.
BY JEOPARDIZING OUR PARKING THERE, RESIDENTS WILL ALSO HAVE NOISE OF HORNS, MOTORS, BICYCLES AND MANY ACCIDENTS AND INJURIES THAT WILL OCCUR DUE TO THE TRAFFIC.
THINK OF THE RESIDENTS IN KINGS POINT AND REALIZE THAT THIS WILL DO, THAT THEY REALIZE WHAT THIS WILL DO TO TAMARAC.
SO WE WILL FIGHT TO THE VERY END TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR.. SURE, I HAVE STAN LORI WALSHAW.
WILLSHIRE, SORRY, I'VE AND THEY'RE COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE.
YES, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY.
YOU WAVE, OK, YOU'VE GOT IN YOUR WIFE AS WELL OR DAUGHTER, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR ON THE MASK. I'M SO SORRY.
WE HAVE STEVE JODECI ON DECK, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.
I JUST WANTED TO BE KNOWN THAT WE MOVED HERE A YEAR AGO, WE LIVE IN A LITTLE KINGS POINT COMMUNITY CALLED.
I JUST BLACKED OUT MALVERN, MALVERN.
YEAH, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? YEAH, I GOT A TICKET AND AND WE REALLY DID SOME CONSIDERATION FOR MOVING HERE.
WE LIVED FOR 30 YEARS AND LIGHTHOUSE POINT, BEAUTIFUL HOUSE ON THE WATER.
AND WHEN WE CAME HERE, WE FELT AT HOME AND FOR OUR.
THE COMMISSIONER, WHO I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH, GET MY GELIN WHO PROPOSED THIS, AND I YOU KNOW, SOME POLITICIANS DO NOT REALLY TELL THE WHOLE STORY AND THAT'S WHAT I'M FEELING HERE RIGHT NOW.
SO I OPPOSE ANY ANY TRACK IN A CONCERT CENTER OR ANYTHING.
AND I INTEND TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE CITY BECAUSE I REALLY HAVE GROWN TO LOVE IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE GLAD YOU MOVED HERE. I THINK WE ALL LOVE IT HERE AS WELL.
DR. DOROTHY SCHOLER, YOU ARE ON DECK, AND JOAN RIMKUS.
YOU'RE GOING TO PASS. OK, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PLEASE, WE NEED A RESET ON THE CLOCK, PLEASE, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND AT LEAST THE LOCATION OF WHERE YOU ARE. MY NAME IS STEVE GUDINSKI AND I LIVE IN YARDLEY, JUST LIKE MAUDY HERE SPOKE.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS OTHER PROBLEMS HERE IN TAMARAC.
YOU GUYS ARE UP HERE TRYING TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO CALL OUT NAMES.
YOU CAN DO OTHER THINGS WITH THE MONEY.
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IT'S JUST. WE DON'T NEED THAT PARK WITH THE NOISE, WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THE PICTURES THAT I'VE SEEN WHERE IT WAS SUPERIMPOSED, THE WAY THAT WE'D SIT IN THE PARK, IT'S TOO TIGHT.YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT YOU CAN PHOTOSHOP ANYTHING INTO THERE.
YOU COULD PUT YANKEE STADIUM IN THERE AND IT WOULDN'T WORK.
SO IT'S LIKE, LET'S GET TO THE BOAT.
LET'S GET THIS NOT JUST TABLE, BUT FUTURE REFERENCE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DR. DOROTHY SCHILLER. AND JONAS WAVES AND I HAVE BARRY ARONSON, I BELIEVE IS.
YOU'RE GOING TO PASS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY ON EITHER 414 OF FOUR TWENTY EIGHT MR. GELIN YOU HAD, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, STACKED THE COMMISSION MEETING WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SPEAKING ON THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THE TRACK.
WHERE I'M GOING TO ADDRESS IS YOU WANTED TO TRACK FOR RUNNERS AND CYCLISTS THIS PAST WEEKEND, OR MAYBE WE CAN PRIOR TO YOU HAD A BIG BIKE RUN AND AT SEVEN OR SEVEN THIRTY IN THE MORNING AND THE NOISE WAS TREMENDOUS FOR THE YARDLINE RESIDENTS, THE WELDEN RESIDENTS AND ME, WHO LIVES IN GRANVILLE, WHICH IS CLEARLY ACROSS NOB HILL AND THEN SOME BACK.
SO I JUST THINK AS A COURTESY, WITH OR WITHOUT THE TRACK AND OF COURSE, I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THE TRACK, I WOULD HOPE IN THE FUTURE THAT ANY TYPE OF BICYCLE RIDE OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT AT SEVEN OR SEVEN THIRTY IN THE MORNING WOULD NOT HAVE THE AMOUNT OF NOISE THAT YOU HAD MADE AVAILABLE TO YOUR BIKERS TO TAKE OFF WITH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MY NEXT SHE'S BUDGET LARRY LERNER.
AND THEN MR. WEBSTER STEWART, I THINK YOU LEFT.
SEVENTY FIVE, TWENTY FIVE GRANVILLE DRIVE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED HERE AND BEING READY WITH T.U.
IN 2019 AND I THINK YOU GUYS DISCUSSED THE TWENTY EIGHTEEN IS THAT COMPLEX IS BRAND NEW.
YOU'VE PUT I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT QUOTES NOW, MILES, BUT I WOULD THINK YOU'VE PUT THE HIGH TECH, THE LOW HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO THAT TRACK.
WE COMPLETELY RESURFACED THE UNDERPINNING THE UNDERGROUND AND THE SOD, BECAUSE WHEN IT USED TO RAIN, IT WOULDN'T DRY OUT FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS.
THE RAINY SEASON, PEOPLE COULDN'T USE THAT.
NOW IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS DRY IN TWO TO THREE OR FOUR HOURS.
WE'VE ADDED THE PARKING SPACES AND WE'VE MADE AN EFFORT HERE IN TAMARAC TO ATTRACT FAMILIES. NOW, I OBVIOUSLY IN THAT PART OF THE FAMILY COMMUNITY AND POLICY INCENTIVES AND COMMUNITY AND TRAFFIC AND OVERCROWDING AND NOISE CERTAINLY IS AN INTEREST.
HOWEVER, WE'RE ATTRACTING FAMILIES, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, STATISTICALLY OUR AVERAGE AGE, ONE FROM THE MID 60S TO THE MID 40S, OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE FULLY STAFFED.
WE ARE ATTRACTING OR ATTEMPTING TO ATTRACT ALL KINDS OF COMMERCE AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. THAT TRACK IS USED OR THAT COMPLEX, I SAID, WITHOUT THE TRAFFIC IS AN ATTRACTION FOR THE FAMILIES THAT WE SUPPOSEDLY CAME HERE.
NOW, ALL THESE FAMILIES HAVE MOVED IN HERE IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
THE KIDS COME TO THE COMPLEX TO PLAY THE VARIOUS SPORTS.
THE PARENTS COME TO THE COMPLEX TO WORK OUT WITH THE KIDS.
WE SHOULD NOT FIX WHAT'S NOT BROKEN.
WE SHOULD NOT CHANGE WHAT WE SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR DOING STUDIES WHEN WE DID THIS FIX.
AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP AT ALL.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE PASSED BECAUSE I'M HOPING AND I'M GETTING THE FEELING YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO VOTE THE RIGHT WAY.
AND THAT'S AGAINST THE MOTION.
YOU POINT OF ORDER COMMISSIONER NO POINT OF ORDER TO THE CHAIR.
CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU CONFIRM FOR THE AUDIENCE THAT THIS ITEM WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA BY THE VICE MAYOR AND THAT I DID HAVE THE ITEM REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA?
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NOT RELEVANT FOR THIS, BUT CITY ATTORNEY, ACTUALLY, CITY MANAGER.I'M SORRY, AGAIN, THE QUESTION WHO PUT THE QUESTION WAS WHO PUT THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? CORRECT. SO THE GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT THE CHUTZPAH.
IS THAT HOW YOU SAY IT CUTS? BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK BACK.
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF PARTICIPATION.
I JUST WANT THE CITY MANAGER TO CONFIRM FOR THE AUDIENCE THAT I DID NOT PUT THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THAT'S CORRECT.
COMMISSIONER, THE VICE MAYOR, REQUESTED THE ITEM FOR THIS EVENING.
NOW, WHAT'S THE RELEVANCY THAT AND VICE MAYOR? WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION.
WE STILL HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WISH TO SPEAK.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, I LOOK LIKE ABOUT 15 PEOPLE IN THE SKY WHO STILL WANT TO SPEAK.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROCEED WITH THIS, OK? SO IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE PATIO OR ONE OF FIVE THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? THAT I HAVE NOT CALLED.
I DO NOT KNOW IF ANYBODY'S COMING FROM ONE OF FIVE OR THE PATIO WHILE WE'RE DOING THE PHONE, WILL HAVE YOU SPEAK IN A MINUTE OR RIGHT AFTERWARDS.
SO AT THIS TIME. CITY CLERK AND OUR I.T.
DEPARTMENT ARE GOING TO HELP, PLEASE, WITH GOING THROUGH THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.
YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, IF WE COULD HAVE THE DEPARTMENT CALL MARY BROWN FIRST.
FORGIVE ME, I THINK YOU SAY THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY OUTSIDE WHO WISHES THIS.
BEAUTIFUL, THANK YOU, MS. DON.
CIRMINIELLO GO INTO THE UNKNOWN PARTICIPANT IS NOW JOINING.
THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, IF WE CAN HAVE THE DEPARTMENT CALLED MARY BROWN.
MISS BROWN, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TURN DOWN YOUR HOWEVER YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING.
WE WOULD ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, AT LEAST WHAT CITY YOU LIVE IN, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROCEED.
FORGIVE ME, I THINK YOU SAY THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE.
SHOULD I TALK? OK, SO IT'S MARY GRANDVILLE.
HI. MARY BROWN SPEAKING GRANVILLE.
OK, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. PLEASE PROCEED.
OK, SO I'M NOT GOING TO ADD MUCH MORE.
THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD IS THAT IN IN ADDING A TRACK, YOU'RE SUBTRACTING SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S FUNCTIONING.
I MEAN, THERE THERE ISN'T ANY ADDED SPACE.
SO SACRIFICING SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY UTILIZED BEAUTIFULLY IS REALLY UNFAIR TO THOSE WHO ARE ENJOYING WHAT THEY ARE USING RIGHT NOW IN THE PARK BUDGET.
YOU'RE WELCOME. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
UNKNOWN PARTICIPANT IS NOW EXITING.
HELLO. UNKNOWN PARTICIPANT IS NOW JOINING.
YES, SOUNDS LIKE A CUTIE WITH YOU, IF YOU WOULD, YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS OR AT LEAST THE CITY AND WHERE YOU LIVE AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLEASE PROCEED. MY NAME IS HOLLIN ANDERSON.
MY ADDRESS IS SEVEN ZERO FIVE ONE CALHOUN CIRCLE TAMARAC, FLORIDA.
THANK YOU. PLEASE PROCEED. YES, I AM I'M ACTUALLY CALLING TODAY OR TONIGHT BECAUSE I WANT TO ENSURE THAT MY VOICE IS HEARD AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROPOSED AND SO COMPLEX THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD ON OUR SPORTS COMPLEX.
I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF WELLPOINT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, ABOUT A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO SEVERAL OF MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS HERE.
AND THEY DO SHARE THE SAME DISPLEASURE AND ALSO ACTUALLY COACHED SOCCER TWO YEARS IN A ROW AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO URGE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE NO ON THIS PROPOSED PLAN.
I FEEL IT WILL BRING A LOT OF UNWANTED TRAFFIC TO THE AREA.
AND I WANT OUR COMMISSIONERS TO BE MINDFUL THAT MORE OUTSIDERS WOULD BE BENEFITING FROM
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THIS PROPOSED PLAN THAN ACTUAL TAMARAC RESIDENTS.WITH A LOT OF OUTSIDERS COMING IN TO VISIT OUR CITY, THEY MIGHT NOT SHARE THE SAME LOVE AND ADMIRATION THAT WE SHARE FOR OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD LEAD TO POTENTIAL CRIMES IN OUR IN OUR IN OUR OUR AREA OR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THEY PLEASE PLEASE JUST THINK ABOUT AND LISTEN TO THE VOICE OF GOD, ACTUAL RESIDENTS, NOT OUTSIDE INFLUENCES, BUT ACTUAL TAMARAC RESIDENTS AND VOTE NO ON THIS.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
WE HAVE ONLY PARTICIPANT IS NOW EXITING.
I'M TRYING TO FIX UP MARICICH IS NEXT THING.
HELLO, PARTICIPANT IS NOW JOINING.
I MISSPOKE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING.
YES. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
IF YOU WOULD, STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS OR AT LEAST THE CITY AND WHERE WHERE YOU LIVE.
FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY US.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ATTENDING AND PASSING.
YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. UNKNOWN PARTICIPANT IS NOW EXITING.
OUR VERSION OF WHAT IS IT, CORTANA OR IRIS SILVERBERG? THAT'S THE THING WE CALL AN UNKNOWN PARTICIPANT IS NOW JOINING.
GOOD EVENING, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS OR AT LEAST THE CITY AND WHERE YOU LIVE. FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
IRA SILVERBERG, TAMARAC, FLORIDA.
EXCELLENT. DO YOU WISH TO MAKE COMMENTS WE HAVE YOU HERE SIGNED UP FOR THE SPORTS TRACK OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO PASS? OH, JUST A FEW COMMENTS, PLEASE PROCEED.
I DIDN'T HEAR YOU, WOULD YOU SAY, PLEASE PROCEED? OK, I'M OPPOSED TO.
THE SPORTS COMPLEX CHANGING WHAT WE HAVE NOW, I BELIEVE IT WILL BRING MORE TRAFFIC TO THE AREA, BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO THE AREA THAT WE DON'T NEED IT TO SENIOR COMPLEX AND ANY KIND OF DISRUPTIONS, LOUD NOISES FROM CONCERTS MIGHT BE.
MIGHT BE HARD FOR PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH.
AND WONDER WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THE MONEY TO DO THIS OR WITH, BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT. I'M JUST OPPOSED TO WHAT I THINK THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE IT ALONE EVERY FEW YEARS.
ALL THEY THINK ABOUT IS REDOING THAT WHOLE AREA.
AND THE PORK IS GOOD FOR CHILDREN, FOR ADULTS.
THE SPORTING EVENTS THAT ARE VERIFYING THAT DURING THE DAY AND THERE'S NO REAL DISRUPTIONS THERE, BUT I FEEL ANYTHING ELSE THAT THAT GREATER LEVEL WILL CAUSE.
YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING BY REACHING.
AND WE'LL GO TO OUR NEXT CALLER AND WHAT I'VE JUST BEEN ADVISED IS THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THE CITY IS ACTUALLY CALLING THEM.
SO PART OF THE DELAY, PART OF PEOPLE BEING A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT ARE YOU CALLING ABOUT? SO WE'RE GOING TO RESET THE CLOCK AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVELIN SAN'S CONTACTED.
HI, MS., AND THIS IS A CITY OF TAMARAC JORDA CITY COMMISSION MEETING, WE ARE UP TO THE SPORTS COMPLEX. NOT SURE IF YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK OR PALACE, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ANY KIND OF JUST.
YES. GOING TO JUST ASK YOU TO PLEASE TURN DOWN WHICHEVER THEY WATCHING US AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE.
YES, PLEASE. AVALON'S FANS AND I LIVE IN MELFORD AMARANT KINGSBURY.
YES, IT IS. PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN LIVING IN MALVERN SINCE IT WAS BUILT TWENTY SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO.
IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THE SAME WAY THAT IT WAS WHEN WE MOVED HERE.
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A BEAUTIFUL, LOVING COMMUNITY.WE LOVE WE LOVE THE COMPLEX, JUST THE WAY THE BALLFIELD, JUST THE WAY IT IS WITH YOUNG CHILDREN ENJOYING IT WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO MAKE ANY CHANGE.
AND I DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY OPPOSE IT AS WELL AS DO ALL OUR NEIGHBORS.
PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE BEAUTIFUL CITY THAT WE'RE LIVING IN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OR CALL RICHARD SHAPIRO.
AND AS FAR AS I HAVE RIGHT HERE, OH, NEVER MIND, I SEE MORE.
HELLO. HI, MR. SHAPIRO. THIS IS A CITY OF TAMRAT CALLING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS OR YOU CAN WAVE IN SUPPORT, SO TO SPEAK, THAT YOU DO NOT WISH TO TRY TO COME IN.
IF YOU PROCEED, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU LIVE.
OK. MY NAME IS RICHARD SHAPIRO AND I LIVE AT 775 SOUTH HAMPTON TERRACE.
APARTMENT TWO, 07 IN TAMARAC, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PLEASE PROCEED. YES, AND THIS IS PART OF I LIVE IN KINGS POINT.
YES. THANK YOU, SIR, IF YOU WOULD, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE SPORTS TRACK.
OK, SO I'M UP ABSOLUTELY AGAINST IT, AND THIS IS WHY I FEEL THAT IT WILL MEAN THE ELIMINATION OF QUIET AND PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT WITHIN MY HOME.
AND THE KINGS POINT COMMUNITY, IT WILL ALSO MEAN A DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES FOR OUR HOMES BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HERE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS AND WE CAME TO TAMARAC TO RETIRE.
BECAUSE IT WAS A WELL KEPT QUIET AND PEACEFUL CITY AND THIS NEW PROPOSAL FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX WILL TURN THIS QUIET COMMUNITY INTO A TRANSIENT, NOISY AND UNSAFE COMMUNITY WITH THE ADDED POSSIBILITY OF MORE CRIME, BRINGING PEOPLE IN FROM OTHER AREAS, YOU KNOW, INTO OUR IMMEDIATE AREA.
AND I FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CITY DOES NOT NEED.
AND WE WILL ALSO CREATE TRAFFIC ISSUES FOR KINGS POINT.
AND WE ARE NOT YOU KNOW, WE WERE SENIOR CITIZENS HERE, WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO COPE WITH THIS AND IT WILL MEAN THE POSSIBILITY OF MORE ACCIDENTS HERE AT KINGS POINT.
THANK YOU. YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
YES. OK, WE ALSO FEEL THAT WE PAY OUR TAXES TO THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND IN RETURN WE SHOULD RECEIVE A TRANQUIL AND PEACEFUL PLACE TO LIVE.
AND WE FEEL THAT TAMARAC SHOULD HELP US PRESERVE OUR VALUES OF OUR HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CALLING.
YOU HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR EVENING.
THANKS. SO NOW WE WILL CALL MS. PHILLIP TILA'S OR.
HELLO. HI, MR., LOOK, THIS IS A TAMARA ISD COMMISSIONER WE'RE CALLING YOU FROM THE MEETING AND WE ARE ON THE TOPIC OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE MATTER, WE DO ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
AT 30 SECONDS, I WILL INTERRUPT YOU.
OR YOU CAN SAY YOU YOU DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK OR YOU DON'T YOU'RE NOT IN FAVOR.
IT IT IS YOUR CALL. PLEASE PROCEED.
I'M FELLOW SERVLET FROM 79 40 TO EXETER CIRCLE WEST.
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I'M AGAINST THE TRACK FOR ALL THE NEGATIVE REASONS ALREADY MENTIONED.WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DEBBIE BERG.
SHE IS OUR NEXT PERSON THAT WE WILL BE CALLING IN A RESET ON THE CLOCK FOR THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.
HI, IS THIS ISBERG? GOOD EVENING, MISS BERG. THIS IS A CITY OF SAMARRA, COMMISSIONER CALLING WE'RE ON THE TOPIC OF THE SPORTS TRACK.
AND IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE DO SO.
STATE YOUR NAME ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
AT 30 SECONDS, YOU'LL GET A WARNING.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN JUST SAYING WHETHER THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF IT OR AGAINST IT.
THANK YOU. OK, HI, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.
DEBORAH BERG, I LIVE IN WELDEN IN KINGS POINT AND I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS.
I'M OPPOSED TO IT FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS.
BUT JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I THINK IT WAS DISINGENUOUS AND DISINGENUOUS EARLIER WHEN IT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT AS A JUST AS A RUBBERIZED TRACK BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL WAS FOR THE TRACK, THE CERTIFIED TRACK, WITH 10000 SEATS TO ACCOMMODATE MANY, MANY CARS.
SO WE WERE LOOKING AT A MUCH DIFFERENT THING THAN JUST THE TRACK.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A PLACE THAT WOULD HAVE CONCERTS AND SPORTS EVENTS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT WAS DISINGENUOUS AND THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
APPRECIATE YOU SHARING WITH US THIS EVENING.
YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. EUTERPE, THANK YOU.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO JENNIFER ROCKBURN.
HELLO, GOOD EVENING, MS. ROCKBURN. THIS IS A TAMARA ISD COMMISSIONER WE'RE CALLING REGARDING THE TRACK ITEM.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, WE WOULD NEED YOU TO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.
WE'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR TIME IS ALMOST UP.
PLEASE PROCEED. MY NAME IS JENNIFER ROCKBURN, I'M A KINGS POINT RESIDENT AND I HAVE JUST A FEW POINTS. I THINK THE INITIAL COSTS HAVE BEEN UNDERSTATED AND ARE UNREALISTIC.
THERE'S BEEN NO MENTION ABOUT THE ON AND MAINTENANCE COSTS AND THERE'S BEEN NO MENTION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND TRAFFIC CONGESTION DURING CONSTRUCTION.
I FEEL THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT BRING FULL VALUE TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS IN TAMRAT AND COULD BE DISRUPTIVE TO MANY AND DOES NOT MAINTAIN THE FUNCTIONAL ENJOYMENT OF THE PARK AS IT STANDS NOW.
YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING. YOU, TOO.
THANK YOU. NEXT CALLER IS DONALD LAC.
HELLO, GOOD EVENING, MR. BLACK. THIS IS A TAMARA ISD COMMISSIONER WE'RE CALLING ON THE TOPIC OF THE TRACK, WE ASKED THAT IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A NOTICE OR WARNING AT 30 SECONDS LEFT.
IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE TURN THIS.
OK, BUT IF YOU WOULD ALSO PLEASE TURN DOWN WHATEVER ITEM THAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO US ON, BECAUSE WE HEAR IT HERE, IT'S A LITTLE YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO PASS.
OH, YOU'RE PASSING. SORRY I COULDN'T HEAR OVER THE OTHER STUFF, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT CALLERS ARE MARILYN AND WARREN WHEN.
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MR. BLACK, IS THAT YOU OR IS THIS MR. WIN? OK, WELL, LAUGHTER IS VERY GOOD.IT'S NICE AND HEALTHY, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CONNECT TO MARILYN AND WARREN WHEN.
I'M NOT ABLE TO GET THROUGH THAT.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THEN WE WILL TRY MR. JOHN ESCOBAR.
HELLO, MR. ESCOBAR, GOOD EVENING.
THIS IS A TAMARA ISD COMMISSIONER WE'RE CALLING YOU FROM THE MEETING ROOM AND WE'RE UP TO THE CONVERSATION REGARDING THE TRACK.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A 30 SECOND NOTICE WHEN YOUR TIME IS RUNNING SHORT.
HE SAID THE ADDRESS, YES, PLEASE JUST SAVE THE CITY IF YOU WISH.
NO, IT'S OK. 110 NORTH WAS 80, OF COURSE, TAMARAC, FLORIDA, THREE TO THREE TO ONE.
PLEASE SHARE WITH US YOUR THOUGHTS.
YEAH, SO SO FAR, BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN READING ON THE.
I GUESS WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
I'VE BEEN A COACH IN THE SUMMER LEAGUE.
SINCE 2000 AND NINE NINE SORRY, 2007, ACTUALLY, AND I WAS THEN A COACH, YOU KNOW, OFF AND ON, AND IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE FOR ME TO COACH OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN TAMARAC AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THEIR OWN SERVICE HISTORY, BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, IS THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT BASEBALL IS GOING TO BE A TORNADO AT ALL OR MOST OTHER LOCATION.
BUT I'M HERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A SHRUG.
AND THAT THAT THAT, I THINK IS GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE TO LIVE IN HERE IN THE CITY AND AND THE FUTURE OF ALL OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FAMILIES IN THE CITY OF SAMARRA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, MR. ESCOBAR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CALL AND YOUR COMMENTS.
IF WE COULD JUST GO BACK AND TRY ONE MORE TIME FOR MARLON AND WARREN WIN TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE TRIED EVERYBODY WHO SIGNED UP, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS OUR LAST CALL.
WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE CALLER TO COME ONLINE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK THAT HAS NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WHILE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THAT IS FINE. HELLO? HELLO. IS THIS MS.? WHEN? FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, IT SAID, YES, IT IS SO MS. WHEN THIS IS ALL THIS IS ACTUALLY MICHELLE GOMEZ AND I'M HERE WITH YOUR CITY COMMISSION AND WE ARE UP TO THE TOPIC ABOUT THE TRACK.
AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR OPINIONS.
PLEASE GIVE YOU A WARNING AT 30 SECONDS.
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OK, MARILYN, WHEN I LIVED AT 76 57 GRANVILLE DRIVE, TAMARAC, FLORIDA, THREE, TWO, THREE, TWO, ONE. AND I DON'T APPROVE OF THE TRACK IN SAMMARA.I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY AT GOOD ALL THE WAY IT IS.
AND I THOUGHT IT CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND, ESPECIALLY KINGS POINT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MS. WHEN YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, I WANT TO THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
IT IS NOW MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE COMPLETE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CITY CLERK.
GOOD ADVICE, MARY. I JUST WANT TO SAY MY LAST COMMENT, I DIDN'T HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE, I JUST MADE A MOTION. SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST REMIND MYSELF, COMMISSIONER GELIN MAYOR GOMEZ, COMMISSIONER, PLACKO AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON THAT PUTTING OUR RESIDENTS FIRST.
AND IT'S VERY CRUCIAL THAT WE LISTEN TO OUR RESIDENTS.
AND EVERY DECISION THAT WE MAKE IS BASED ON THEIR NEEDS, WHETHER IT WAS A TRACK, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A FARM OR WHATEVER IT IS DOESN'T MATTER.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND ALL OF YOU ON THIS DAY IS INCLUDING MYSELF, THAT THE RESIDENTS DO COME FIRST. AND I THINK IT'S TIME TO CALL THE QUESTION, AND I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY MY MOTION BEFORE I DO SO. OK.
THERE ARE MAGIC WORDS TO MY EARS, OF COURSE, THE QUESTION AND BUT DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY? SO IF WE CAN, WE'LL GO TO THE CITY CLERK TO ASK HER TO READ BACK THE MOTION.
SURE, THE WAY I HAVE IT, IT WAS A MOTION ELIMINATING THE TAMARAC SPORTS COMPLEX AS A POTENTIAL SITE FOR AN EYE, A CERTIFIED TRACK, AND ANYTHING THAT WILL ALTER THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
I WILL CALL QUESTION CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MAYOR GOMEZ, YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YES, MR. PLACKO, YES, COMMISSIONER GELIN NO AND VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS, YES.
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GOING TO DO I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE HERE FOR ANOTHER BUDGET ITEM, ANOTHER ITEM.
SO WHAT I AM GOING TO DO IS ASK FOR A MOTION TO MOVE THE BUDGET ITEM TO BE THE NEXT ITEM WE WILL TAKE AFTER BREAK.
SO CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND? SO MOVED THE BUDGET ITEM.
SORRY, I'VE I'VE GOT TO SAY, I NEED A MOTION.
IT'S NUMBER EIGHT EIGHT EIGHT.
A ORDINANCES ON FIRST READING TWO ZERO TWO FOUR FOUR EIGHT AMENDING ORDINANCE TWO ZERO TWO ZERO ZERO ONE ONE FIVE TWENTY TWENTY ONE OPERATING CAPITAL BUDGET.
I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THAT TO BE THE NEXT ITEM AFTER THE BREAK.
I'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE WILL HEAR THAT IN TWENTY MINUTES OR WHATEVER.
NINE, TEN IS. WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE AT NINE.
ACTUALLY I APOLOGIZE. NINE, FIFTEEN.
WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE AT NINE FIFTEEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD TO MEET JULIE.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. THERE WE GO.
WELCOME BACK, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WE ARE CONTINUING OUR MEETING OR ACTUALLY NINE SIXTEEN AT THE RATE IT'S GOING.
AND SINCE WE ARE NOW LIVE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE ALL HERE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CALLING THE ROLL AGAIN.
WE HAVE MOVED UP ON OUR AGENDA.
ITEM EIGHT A., WHICH IS T O TWO FOUR FOUR EIGHT AMENDING ORDINANCE 2020, DASH 11, FCI 20
[8.a. TO2448 - Amending Ordinance 2020-011 FY 2021 Operating and Capital Budget]
21 OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET.THIS IS AN ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING CITY ATTORNEY.
PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.
AND WE'RE INTO THE CITY COMMISSIONER, THE CITY OF TAMARAC, FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE 20, 2011, WHICH DOT THE CITY OF TAMARAC, OPERATING BUDGET REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, THE CAPITAL BUDGET, THE FINANCIAL POLICIES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 BY INCREASING THE TOTAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BY A TOTAL OF THREE MILLION NINE HUNDRED FIFTY ONE DOLLARS NINE HUNDRED FIFTY ONE EIGHT HUNDRED SIXTY EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS AS DETAILED IN ATTACHMENT A
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ATTACHED HERE TO IN SUMMARIZING IN TAX TO BE PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, BORROWING SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CAN I MAKE MY MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION.
CAN I MAKE MY MOTION? OK, THANK YOU.
DURING OUR WORKSHOP, I HAD MADE A POSTER.
PLEASE MOVE CLOSER TO THE MIC OR BRING THAT YOU BETTER.
THANK YOU. DURING THE WORKSHOP, I HAD MADE A MOTION THAT WHEN THIS ITEM CAME UP, I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR SIX ITEMS TO BE REMOVED.
I REVIEWED THESE AND I WOULD LIKE THE LOCAL TRAVEL ALLOWANCE REMOVED, THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES, ADDITIONAL FUNDING, THE OFFICE REDO WITH FURNITURE, THE MULTIMEDIA OUTREACH AND THE FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR PARKS EVENTS.
COMMISSIONER PLACKO, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE ASK FOR A SECOND, OK? DURING THE DISCUSSION AT OUR WORKSHOP, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MULTIMEDIA AND THE PARK EVENT. ARE YOU MAKING IN YOUR MOTION? ARE YOU PULLING THEM OUT OR YOU MODIFYING THEM? I AM ASKING TO TO PULL THEM OUT, WE ARE HAVING A BUDGET MEETING IN A WEEK OR TWO AND IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT THE WAY IT SITS NOW AT 50000 DOLLARS, I AM ASKING TO HAVE THEM PULLED. PULLED.
OK, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TO CLARIFY.
SO THE MOTION IS TO PULL THE LOCAL TRAVEL ALLOWANCE, PULL THE EXTRADITION MONEY FOR AIDS, PULL THE OFFICE REDO, PULL THE MULTIMEDIA, PULL THE PARK AND REC.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN PULL THE OFFICE FURNITURE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE A MOTION TO US AND A SECOND.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO TO A PRESENTATION BY THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, CHRISTINE CAJUSTE. I'M ACTUALLY NO, WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION.
SHE'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS SUCH.
NOW, WE WILL GO TO OPENING UP OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
NEIL GULLBERG, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEY'LL BE A LITTLE MORNING TO LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR THREE MINUTES IS ALMOST UP.
THANK YOU. HI, EVERYBODY, MY NAME IS NEAL GOLDBERG, I LIVE IN THE FAIRFAX COMMUNITY IN KINGS POINT FOR SIX YEARS, MY WIFE AND I.
SNOWBOARDED IN FAIRFAX, WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY, WE LOVED IT SO MUCH THAT THIS PAST OCTOBER WE DECIDED TO SELL OUR HOME IN BALTIMORE AND MOVE DOWN HERE AND MAKE TAMARAC OUR FOREVER HOME. THAT'S HOW MUCH WE LOVE THIS COMMUNITY.
I WAS VERY ACTIVE POLITICALLY IN BALTIMORE, WHICH IS A VERY BLUE STATE, AND NOW I'M IN FLORIDA, WHICH IS NOT.
NOW, I'M NOT SURE WHICH OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN SUGGESTED TO BE PULLED.
BUT I'M GOING TO START WITH A QUOTE FROM A LOCAL REPORTER WHO STATES THAT TAMARAC, ONCE ONE OF BRAUER'S BEST RUN CITY HALLS, IS DEGENERATED INTO A HONEYPOT FOR CITY COMMISSIONERS. AND AFTER READING WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON, I HAVE TO AGREE.
IN A CITY THAT WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FISCAL DAMAGE IS FROM COVID FOR THE PAST YEAR, WE ARE ALLOWING THE COMMISSIONERS TO HIRE UP TO THREE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISONS.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE COST OF THREE FOR EACH COMMISSIONER WOULD COST.
ALL I KNOW IS IT WON'T BE CHEAP TRAVEL OF FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS APIECE AND YOU CAN USE IT ON WHATEVER YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SHOW RECEIPTS.
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS SLUSH FUND THAT CAN BE SPENT WITHOUT TAKING COMPETITIVE BIDS. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I RAN A BUSINESS FOR 30 YEARS AND WHERE I COME FROM, THIS IS NOT GOOD BUSINESS.
IT. IT'S A HONEY POT, EXACTLY WHAT THIS REPORTER SAID, IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY LIKE TAMARAC.
I AM NOT GOING TO BRING UP ANY NAMES BECAUSE I FIND THAT VERY TASTELESS.
HOWEVER, I WILL BRING UP ACTIONS AND THESE ACTIONS HAVE VACUUM CLEANER TENDENCIES.
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IN OTHER WORDS, THEY SUCK.SO THE NEXT TIME YOU MAKE A DECISION.
TRY NOT TO MAKE ANY THAT ARE AS BONEHEAD AS THE THREE I JUST MENTIONED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU. I SEE GOING THROUGH MY LIST HERE.
DARSEY SAID THAT SHE WAS NOT GOING TO SPEAK.
SHE HAD LEFT. I HAVE JACKIE COLET HERE TO SPEAK ON THE TRACK.
JACKIE, ARE YOU STILL WITH US? OK, I THINK JACQUI HAS GONE HOME FOR THE EVENING AT THIS TIME, I HAVE NOBODY ELSE ON MY LIST. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? I SEE I CAN'T SEE YOU FULLY, BUT I CAN TELL THAT TO YOU, RON.
HI, EVERYONE. RON WASSERMAN, EIGHT FIVE SEVEN SEVEN JAY DRIVE.
I LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OF SHANGRILA.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
WELCOME TO THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY.
WELL, A NUMBER OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED, SO THAT DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR KILLING THIS FROM THE.
AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALREADY HAVE NEW OFFICES THAT WERE DONE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO BECAUSE I WAS IN YOUR OFFICE.
AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE ON THE DAIS WHO'S MET WITH ME PREVIOUSLY OVER MANY ISSUES.
THANK YOU AGAIN. SO ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE SAVE US MONEY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THIS MONEY.
I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS, JUST RECENTLY, I WAS IN INDIANA, WE WENT FOR A ROAD TRIP, FIRST ROAD TRIP, 14 MONTHS, AND WHEN WE GOT TO INDIANA, EVERYTHING WAS GOOD.
WE WANTED A WEDDING. AND I WAS TALKING TO A GENTLEMAN LIKE, YOU ALL KNOW, I TALKED TO EVERYONE AND HE WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL OF MUNCIE, INDIANA.
THERE'S ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND PEOPLE.
AND I SAID TO HIM, HOW MUCH DO YOU MAKE MR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBER? HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SMILED.
HE SAYS, I WANT TO HELP MY COMMUNITY.
I REALLY WANT TO HELP MY COMMUNITY.
I SAID, WELL, HOW MUCH DO YOU MAKE? HE SAID, I MAKE TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR FOR BEING ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? SAYING THAT THERE'S NO ONE ELSE CITY CLERK, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE SKY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS MATTER? THERE'S NOT MANY MORE EXCELLENT THAN PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. AND WE WILL GO TO DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION AND I HAVE COMMISSIONER AND GELIN TO GO UP AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER GUNN THIS ITEM WAS WORKSHOPPED AT THE MEETING PRIOR TO WHEN YOU WERE NOT HERE.
SO PLEASE PROCEED. YOU HAVE WE'RE DOING FIVE MINUTES FIRST ROUND AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T NEED A SECOND. GO AHEAD.
IT'S WHEN I ADDRESSED THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST SPOKE TO THE CLERK.
WHAT'S HIS NAME AND ADDRESS? NEAL. HEY, NEAL, THANKS FOR COMMENTING.
GREAT COMMENTS. WELCOME TO TAMARAC.
I'M GLAD YOU DECIDED TO MAKE A PERMANENT HOME.
YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, I'M A BLUE GUY, AND I NEVER LIKE THE FACT THAT TRUMP WOULD ALWAYS SAY FAKE NEWS BECAUSE I BELIEVE HAVING GOOD INDEPENDENT JOURNALISM IS IMPORTANT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN BY THE SUN-SENTINEL, A LOT OF IT IS FAKE NEWS, ESPECIALLY THE PART THAT TALKS ABOUT A TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR SLUSH FUND.
WE DO NOT HAVE A TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR SLUSH FUND THAT WE CAN SPEND ON PERSONAL EXPENSES. THE FUNDS ARE USED TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE.
WHEN I SPENT THE MONEY THAT IS ALLOCATED TO ME ON FOR THE SINCE WE WERE ALL IN COVID DOING VIRTUAL MEETINGS, I PURCHASED A GREEN SCREEN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE TAMARAC IMAGE BEHIND ME.
I HAD I HOSTED A HEALTH CARE HERO'S LUNCHEON FOR THE FOR THE NURSES AND DOCTORS THAT WORKING IN THE HOSPITAL DURING THE COVERED PANDEMIC PAID FOR THAT.
ALL THE ITEMS THAT I PAID FOR WERE ITEMS THAT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
AS A MATTER OF POLICY, WE CANNOT TAKE PUBLIC FUNDS AND SPEND ON ON ON PRIVATE PURPOSE.
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WE WOULD WE WOULD BE IN JAIL FOR THAT.THE FIX TRAVEL EXPENSE ACCOUNT WAS AN OPTIONAL ACCOUNT THAT I DID NOT OPT FOR.
I BELIEVE THE VICE MAYOR OPTED FOR.
THEN HE DROPPED OUT OF IT. AND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON'S, THAT'S BASICALLY A LEGISLATIVE AIDE. AND SINCE NINETEEN SEVENTY FOUR, WE'VE HAD ON THE BOOKS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE THREE LEGISLATIVE AIDES.
AND SO ALL WE DID IS WE SAID, LOOK, THESE JOBS ARE DESIGNED FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS AND FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. SO WHY DON'T WE MAKE THEM PAY POSITIONS AND GIVE STUDENTS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR AN INTERN OPPORTUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AND EARN A DECENT LIVING.
IT'S A PART TIME TEMPORARY POSITION.
IT'S ONLY TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND A YEAR.
THERE ARE NO BENEFITS WHATSOEVER, NO LIFE INSURANCE, NO HEALTH INSURANCE, NOTHING BUT GIVE OUR STUDENTS, YOUNG PEOPLE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK.
WE DON'T OUR CITY IS NOT RUN AMUCK.
WE'VE HAD WE WIN FINANCIAL AWARDS EVERY YEAR FOR WHAT, THE PAST TWENTY YEARS.
THE CITY MANAGER. THIRTY THIRTY YEARS WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT AUDITOR, THE AUDITOR, OUR BOOKS, AND WE COME BACK CLEAN EVERY YEAR, BUT THERE'S AN IRRESPONSIBLE REPORTER, LISA HARESH, WHO'S TRYING TO GET A JOB.
I DON'T GET A PROMOTION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT HER DEAL IS, BUT SHE'S WRITING FALSE ARTICLES.
I'VE RESPONDED TO EACH OF HER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS BY PHONE AND BY EMAIL, AND SHE REFUSES TO QUOTE ME APPROPRIATELY.
THAT REFLECTS THE FULL BREADTH OF MY STATEMENT.
AND SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
UNFORTUNATELY, AND FOR MANY YEARS, I ASKED COMMISSIONER PLACKO, WHY DO YOU ALWAYS SAY NO COMMENT WHILE YOU WASTE NO COMMENT? AND SHE SAID, BECAUSE THEY DON'T THEY WON'T QUOTE ME PROPERLY ANYWAY.
AND NOW I'M AT THE POINT NOW WHERE IF REPORTERS ASKED ME A QUESTION, THE ANSWER IS NO COMMENT, BECAUSE THEY NEVER REPORT MY QUOTES THE WAY I GIVE IT TO THEM.
BUT I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAVE THAT PERCEPTION.
BUT I WILL CONFIRM AND I'M SURE THIS COMMISSION WILL CONFIRM THAT WHATEVER YOU READING IN THE NEWS, IT IS NOT TRUE.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF.
SO. OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN THE ONE TO ASK FOR OUR CAR.
I'VE SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES, ASKED THAT OUR CAR LOANS BE RESCINDED HERE UNDER THERE'S NOBODY AGREED. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I ASKED FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO RESCIND THE CAR LOANS AND TO WORK FOR FREE NOBODY WATER MAYOR.
YES. RECLAIMING MY TIME CHAIR.
OK. I ALSO HAVE A I WAS NOT ON THE DAIS WHEN THAT WAS PROPOSED.
I ALSO SECOND THAT MOTION AND IT WAS NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED.
YOU'LL HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK COMMISSIONER.
SO I COMMISSIONER BOLTON, PLEASE PROCEED.
THANK YOU. SO I ASKED FOR THE CAR LOANS TO BE RESCINDED.
NOBODY DID ASK FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO WORK FOR FREE AND TO ALSO RESCIND THE CAR ALLOWANCE THAT DID NOT PASS.
SO IT IS ON THE RECORD THAT I'VE ALWAYS ASKED FOR THE CAR ALLOWANCE TO BE RESCINDED.
YES, I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO PROPOSE A TECHNOLOGY ALLOWANCE OF FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN LIEU OF OUR CAR LOANS, THAT IS FOR SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS.
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY COMMISSIONERS WAS NOT TRAVELING AROUND THE CITY AS MUCH DURING COVID AS THEY USUALLY WERE.
AND SO THAT SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS PLUS THE PDA ALLOWANCE PLUS THE EIGHT DOLLARS FOR A CELL PHONE ALLOWANCE THAT HAS BEEN EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS GONE OUT OF THE BUDGET NOW WOULD HAVE BEEN AT A FOUR HUNDRED DOLLAR ALLOWANCE.
NOW I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER MANAGER.
YOU YOU STATED IN AN AT OUR LAST MEETING THAT I ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF ITEMS IN THE BUDGET MEMO. DID YOU? WHAT ITEMS WERE THOSE COMMISSIONER? SO YOU SAID THAT I ASKED FOR A TECHNOLOGY ALLOWANCE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE, FOR FURNITURE.
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THIS IS NOT ONE ITEM THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, RIGHT? YES. THIS IS ESPECIALLY IN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW.
IT IS THEIR ORDINANCE 21 07 TALKS ABOUT THE TRAVEL ALLOWANCE FOR FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES, SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SHALL I GO ON OR SHOULD I DO WAS NOT IN THERE.
SO LEAVE IT TO THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THERE VERSUS WHAT ARE NOT IN THEIR PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
FURNITURE. FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
RIGHT, SO MANAGER, YOU THESE SIX ITEMS YOU SAID THAT I ASKED FOR THOSE RIGHT THERE AGAIN, WHICH ITEMS? RECLAIMING MY TIME.
CLARIFYING THE QUESTION, YOU SAID THAT I ASKED FOR THE SIX ITEMS THAT COMMISSIONER PLACKO POLT LOCAL TRAVEL BUDGET OF 15000 DOLLARS, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
OK, SO I DID NOT ASK FOR THAT.
I COMMISSIONER I WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF WHO REQUESTED THAT THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SORRY, I WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF WHO REQUESTED THAT THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY BROUGHT THAT FORWARD IN AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. OK, LEGISLATIVE CLARIFYING THE QUESTION, LEGISLATIVE AIDES WHO ASKED FOR FOUR FOR THREE YEARS, LEGISLATIVE AIDES AGAIN COMMISSIONER THREE PAID LEGISLATIVE AIDES BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY.
OK, SO CITY ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY, NOT ME.
IS THAT YOUR IDEA, THE FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS OR CREATING THE DIFFERENT SPACE FOR ALIEN AND GENGAR? YES, THAT WAS MY PROPOSAL.
SO SO I CAN SAY THAT I ASKED FOR THAT ITEM.
YOU DID. AND DO YOU REMEMBER, DO YOU RECALL IN AN EMAIL WHY I ASKED FOR THAT ITEM YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING SURE THE INITIATIVES AND EVENTS WERE PROPERLY ADVERTISED.
NO, I ASKED FOR THAT ITEM BECAUSE I WANTED THE CITY TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF THE CULTURES IN OUR CITY.
I MENTIONED THAT WE NEEDED TO CELEBRATE JEWISH HISTORY MONTH, LGBTQ MONTH, OUR MUSLIM HOLIDAYS, MAKE SURE THAT WE GO ON RADIO PROMOTING OUR EVENTS SO THAT MORE PEOPLE ATTEND.
DO YOU RECALL THAT EMAIL? I DO. AND AGAIN, I'LL SAY PROBABLY ADVERTISED.
DO YOU RECALL ME SENDING YOU AN EMAIL ASKING YOU FOR OFFICE FURNITURE? MAYBE YOU DID.
YES OR NO, DO YOU RECALL MAYBE YOU DID, I DON'T KNOW, I GET A LOT OF EMAILS.
PLEASE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SENT ME AN EMAIL ABOUT IT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE MR. CERNECH. I ASKED YOU TO CUT YOUR SALARY.
I ASKED YOU TO CUT BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND YOU GAVE A ONE SIDED STORY.
THE FACT IS THAT NOBODY TOLD ME THE COST OF THESE ITEMS. YOU DID NOT COME BACK TO ME AND SAY THE MULTIMEDIA WATERMANN, I AM SPEAKING.
I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER IN YOUR TIME IS UP.
THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. AND YES, YOUR TIME IS UP AND COMMISSIONER.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO DISCUSS THIS MOVING FORWARD, NOT REHASH THINGS AND TRY TO SPIN NEW LIGHT ON THINGS, YOU KNOW, NOT I'M NOT SPINNING NEW ITEMS. I'M DEFENDING MYSELF.
WHEN THIS CITY MANAGER TOLD ME THIS, MADAM MAYOR, WHEN THIS CITY MANAGER TELLS THE MEDIA THAT I WAS BUDGET ITEMS, THAT THAT MS. IN A MEMO THAT I DIDN'T SEE MADAME MAYOR SAY I AM PROFOUNDLY MARZIN.
ALL TRYING TO OBSERVE DECORUM, TALKING OVER EACH OTHER DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH MUCH, THE TIME OF COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS HAS EXPIRED, BUT YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ONCE EVERYONE ELSE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, TO COME BACK AND CONTINUE WHATEVER ISSUES HE WANTS TO DISCUSS. THAT'S HIS PREROGATIVE.
AND I'M SURE HE HAS MORE TO SHARE.
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AND WHEN THE REST OF THE COMMISSION HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, HE CAN ASK FOR THE FLOOR AND WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO GIVE HIM THE FLOOR.THANK YOU, AND WE WILL DO SO WITH THREE MINUTES ON THE NEXT ROUND, SO WE HAVE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER GALLATIN'S, WE HAVE HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER BOLTON. I AM IS THERE ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THIS MAYOR IS IN THERE JUST A MOTION TO REMOVE THOSE ITEMS ON THE TABLE WITH THE SECOND ON THAT? AM I THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE AMENDMENT WITHOUT THOSE SIX ITEMS. YES. OK.
YES, IT WAS SECONDED, THIS MOTION IS ON THE TABLE TO PASS THE AMENDMENT OF TWO TO FOUR FOUR EIGHT AMENDING ORDINANCE FOR TWENTY TWENTY ONE OPERATING BUDGET WITHOUT THE ITEMS OF THE LOCAL TRAVEL ALLOWANCE, WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THREE AIDES, WITHOUT THE OFFICE BEING REDONE, WITHOUT THE MULTIMEDIA, WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL MONEY GOING TO FUND OVER ADDITIONAL STAFF NEEDED FOR PARK AND REC AND WITHOUT FURNITURE.
AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH IN A WORKSHOP PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
SO THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE TABLE.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, I WILL NOT RECOGNIZE YOU YET BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO STILL WISH TO SPEAK WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN FOR THEIR FIRST ROUND.
AND VICE MAYOR, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SAY FURTHER OR YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS ARE GREAT IDEAS.
UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS TIME IT IS A REALLY BAD IDEA.
AND THE WAY THEY'RE BEING PROPOSED IS INADEQUATE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE END, THE ITEM ON THE TABLE IS NOT GRILLING A CITY MANAGER. IT'S ABOUT REMOVING ITEMS FROM AN AGENDA FOR AN AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PASS FOR THREE TIMES ALREADY FOR FOUR, FOUR, SIX WEEKS ALREADY.
SO WE JUST NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS WHEN WE ALREADY HAD CONSENSUS DURING THE WORKSHOP THAT WE WERE GOING TO REMOVE THIS.
UNFORTUNATELY, COMMISSIONER GUNN WAS NOT HERE TO HEAR THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY HE PROBABLY HAS QUESTIONS NOW, TOO.
AND THE REASON WHY I VOTED FOR IN FAVOR OF THE 15000 WAS BECAUSE FOUR OF US VOTED FOR IT AND I DID GO FOR IT.
BUT AFTER HEARING THE RESIDENTS OUTCRY ABOUT HOW STUPID IT WAS, I RESCINDED MY EMAIL TO CITY MANAGER AND STAFF SAYING THIS IS A BAD IDEA.
I HEARD FROM THE MY CONSTITUENTS I'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IS A BAD IDEA, AND I RECALL THAT. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.
YES, AT LENGTH AT OUR WORKSHOP PRIOR TO THIS, WE DID DISCUSS THIS, THE FOUR COMMISSIONER, BOLTON, COMMISSIONER, PLACKO VICE MAYOR AND MYSELF DID DISCUSS ALL THESE ITEMS. AND WE WERE IN CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THESE ITEMS. SO I DO AGREE THAT THERE REALLY DOES NOT NEED TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MATTER JUST TO HAVE SOUNDBITES FROM US.
YOU COMMISSIONER BOLTON YOU ARE BEING RUDE AND YOU'RE OUT OF LINE.
THIS IS LIKE FIVE MINUTES AND I'M ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
YOU YOU WERE THE ONE COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
IT IS MY TURN TO SPEAK TO THE ATTORNEY AGAIN.
I THINK THAT THE COMMISSION IS BETTER SERVED BY FOCUSING ON WHAT THE ITEM IS, WHICH IS ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE IN QUESTION IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU DOES DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND AND WILL BE GIVEN AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WISH REGARDING THE ITEM THAT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE UNDER YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE, UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF PROCEDURE, ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
WHAT I WOULD AGAIN ASK OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IS.
NOT TALK OVER EACH OTHER, NOT INTERRUPT EACH OTHER, BECAUSE THAT JUST DELAYS THE POINTS THAT YOU ARE ALL EACH TRYING TO MAKE AND.
AS THE MAYOR RECOGNIZES THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONER, SO TO SPEAK, THEY SHOULD ALL, ALL OF YOU ALL SHOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON WHATEVER'S ON YOUR MIND, UNIMPEDED BY OTHERS. AND AGAIN, THEN THERE WILL BE A SECOND OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THAT'S MY THAT IS MY AS A PARLIAMENTARIAN, THAT IS MY SUGGESTION, MY RECOMMENDATION, MY DIRECTION. THAT'S HOW THE MEETING SHOULD PROCEED.
THANK YOU. AND CONSIDERING THAT I AM THE LAST TO GO, THIS IS MY FIVE MINUTES AND.
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YOU CAN TAKE OFF A MINUTE IF YOU WISH.I DO NOT MIND, AS I WAS SAYING, THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH AT THE COMMISSION WORKSHOP BEFOREHAND. AND IF EVERYBODY WISHES TO HEAR OUR COMMENTS, PLEASE DO WATCH THE VIDEO. I'M SURE IT IS AVAILABLE.
AND I THINK THAT IT IS TIME THAT WE NEED TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD, KEEP GOING FORWARD.
PAST FIVE MONTHS OR SO, BUT THE TRAIN IS BACK ON TRACK AND IT IS TIME FOR US TO GO INTO BUDGET SEASON, WHICH IS COMING JUNE 17TH, THAT WE START AGAIN AND WORK ON THINGS.
AND AT THAT TIME, WE CAN ALSO DISCUSS IF WE NEED THE MULTIMEDIA, IF WE NEED THE PARK AND REC. AND AS I HAVE MENTIONED EARLIER, WHETHER OR NOT WE EVEN NEED THE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND OR IF WE SHOULD GO FORWARD AS ONE CITY DOING THINGS TOGETHER.
I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION THAT HAS BEEN.
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW GO FOR A SECOND ROUND.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES, COMMISSIONER, BOLTON.
SO, AS I SAID, MY PREROGATIVE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND HE HAS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED THIS, WAS THAT I WANTED TO CUT BUDGET.
I ALSO ASKED HIM TO CUT HIS SALARY.
I ASKED HIM TO CUT THE CAR LOANS AND THE COMMISSIONER'S PAYCHECKS.
AND INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, HE COMES BACK WITH A WITH A BUDGET, A MEMO THAT NOBODY SAW.
NOBODY SAW HOW MUCH IT WAS GOING TO COST, COMES BACK WITH THIS MEMO AND SPENDS IT IN THE MEDIA. THAT IS NOT FAIR.
I DID NOT KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY EACH ITEM WAS GOING TO COST.
NOBODY CAME BACK TO ME AND SAY COMMISSIONER SAID COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
THIS IS WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COST IS WHAT IS GOING TO COST US WHAT IS GOING TO COST.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PROPER WAY OF DOING SOMETHING.
YES, I ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF ITEMS. YES, I DID ASK FOR A COUPLE OF ITEMS, BUT I ALSO ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO BE CUT FROM THE BUDGET. AND NONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE WERE BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE THE MULTIMEDIA BUDGET WAS WAS REQUESTED BY ME.
AND THIS IS THE EMAIL I SENT TO MR. CERNECH IN PART BECAUSE THE TIME IS GOING I SAID, AS I SAID, AS FAR AS RADIO STATIONS I'M THINKING OF, OF FIVE WAVVES ELEVEN SEVENTY AND KEEP OTHER RADIO STATIONS AND NEWSPAPERS PROMOTING EQUALITY LIKE REVOLUTION NINETY THREE POINT FIVE, I BELIEVE THAT SUPPORTS LGBTQ CONVERSATIONS AND DIVERSITY.
NEWSPAPER ADS WOULD BE MONTHLY AND DOING SO FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING.
BLACK HISTORY MONTH. CHINESE NEW YEAR'S.
CARIBBEAN MONTH. BAHAMAS INDEPENDENCE.
JAMAICA INDEPENDENCE. TRINIDAD TRINIDAD.
THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE TAMARAC BE AN EXCLUSIVE COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE. WHEN I GOT ELECTED, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY WHO SAID TO ME THAT THEY DID NOT KNOW WHO IT COMMISSIONER WAS UNTIL I GOT ELECTED.
I WENT AROUND MY COMMUNITY GIVING BACK TO SCHOOL SUPPLIES, TO KIDS, FOOD TRUCKS, ALL THAT STUFF, MAKING SURE THAT THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE INCLUSIVE AND FELT A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO DON'T SIT HERE AND SAY THAT I'M ASKING FOR BUDGET ITEMS AND INCREASING BUDGET. THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED TO DO.
I ASKED TO CUT YOUR FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SALARY ARE OUR OUR LOANS AND THE THE SALARY THAT EACH COMMISSIONER GETS.
THAT WAS WHAT I ASKED YOU TO DO.
AND MANY COMMISSIONERS ON THIS DAY UNDERSTAND THAT IS THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHAT I'VE ASKED THIS COMMISSION TO DO TO CUT BUDGET.
AND IT IS VERY UNFAIR THAT THAT I HAVE BEEN IMPALED BY YOU AND BY YOU, MAYOR AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT IS CRUSADING WITH YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT I'M GOING TO RUN AGAINST YOU IN 2022. THAT'S IT.
COMMISSIONER GELIN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
THAT WAS GREAT TIMING. COMMISSIONER BOLTON MENTIONED A REDUCTION OF SALARIES AND FOUR CITY COMMISSIONERS, AND I DISAGREE WITH THAT FROM THE FROM BEFORE I BECAME A COMMISSIONER OR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I TRIED TO GET PEOPLE THAT I KNOW WHO ARE INTELLIGENT AND SMART TO COME ON THE COMMISSION, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO.
NO ONE WANTS TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU'RE IN A MEETING AND EVERYONE IS SPEAKING AGAINST YOU AND TALKING BAD ABOUT YOU.
SO WE HAVE TO DO THINGS TO MAKE THE POSITION AN ATTRACTIVE POSITION.
WHEN I RAN FOR DISTRICT TWO, I HAD TWO OPPONENTS.
THERE'S PROBABLY THIRTY THOUSAND ADULTS IN TAMARAC, MAYBE TWELVE THOUSAND IN DISTRICT TWO,
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BUT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE, SO WE DO NOT NEED TO MAKE THE POSITION ATTRACTIVE. AND IF YOU LOWER THE SALARIES, THEN PEOPLE WILL BE MORE INCLINED TO BE SUBJECT TO BRIBERY. AND THERE'S A MAYOR, THE FORMER MAYOR OF BOCA RATON TOOK A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ILLEGALLY.HER HUSBAND TOOK OVER ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ILLEGALLY FROM DEVELOPERS.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE THE POSITION ATTRACTIVE SO THAT A DIVERSE POOL OF PEOPLE WILL RUN FOR OFFICE AND WIN SUCCESSFULLY AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SACRIFICING THEIR MAIN JOB TO DO THIS JOB.
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE NEWSPAPER REPORTS THAT AS A FULL TIME JOB, I MEAN A PART TIME JOB, IT'S NOT A PART TIME JOB THAT DOES THE LEVEL OF WORK IS FULL TIME.
WELL, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY MANAGER IS A FINALIST FOR THE JOB AND IN THE CITY OF CLEARWATER, I HOPE HE GETS THE JOB.
I KNOW HE'S LOOKING LOOKING TO GET THE JOB, BUT BUT HE IS OVERLY COMPENSATED IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC. SO THE RANGE FOR THE POSITION IN CLEARWATER IS FROM TWO TO 12 TO TO SEVENTY ONE AND HIS BASE IS TO SEVENTY TWO AND COMPENSATE FOR SUCH AN AMENDMENT.
THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, DO NOT INTERRUPT.
SO DON'T INTERRUPT ME. DON'T INTERRUPT ME.
THE CITY MANAGER'S TOTAL COMPENSATION IS 500000 TONS A YEAR.
THAT'S THE HIGHEST IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE BY THIS COMMISSION THAT YOU VOTED FOR.
AND IT'S SOMETHING NO OTHER CITY IS WILLING TO PAY, WHICH IS WHY DELRAY BEACH SAID NO.
AND TWO OTHER POSITIONS HE APPLIED FOR.
THEY SAID NO. BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE THIS POSITION ATTRACTIVE BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION DOES NOT REFLECT THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE FOR ENTREPRENEURS.
AND ONE RETIREE, MAYBE THE RETIREE REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE DAIS, TEACHERS, PEOPLE FROM A VARIETY OF BACKGROUNDS, NOT JUST ENTREPRENEURS WHO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THIS JOB AND THEIR MAIN JOB AT THE SAME TIME. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE THE POSITION ATTRACTIVE.
SO PEOPLE ARE NOT ONE SUBJECT OF BRIBERY.
AND TWO, THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO THEIR MAIN JOB AND THIS JOB AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THAT'S MY POINT. THANK YOU.
VICE MAYOR, A CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE I HAD REQUESTED A WHILE BACK A CHART OF OUR TOP STAFF MEMBERS AND THEIR SALARIES AND BENEFITS.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DO ACTUALLY DO CUT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DO CUT CITY MANAGER'S SALARY? WHO'S NEXT? THE CITY ASSISTANT? THEN WHO'S AFTER THAT? CHIEF PERCY.
AND THEN WANT TO KEEP GOING AND GOING.
AND GOING. AND GOING. THAT'S I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE.
SO IS SOMEONE ON THE ON THE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK AFTER AFTER CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE WE HAVE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT THAT REPORT, THEY ARE VERY CONSISTENT.
THEY I MEAN, WORK 20 YEARS SOMEWHERE, DO CLIMB THE LADDER, RIGHT, AND SALARY IF I'VE FOUND A POINT OF ORDER, MADAM MAYOR.
WE'RE DISCUSSING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING STAFF SALARIES.
YES. AND AS I'VE BEEN TOLD THEN, TO JUST LET YOU ALL HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT. SO HE HAS HIS RIGHT TO SAY WHAT HE WANTS.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S YOUR POINT OF ORDER.
WE'VE MADE THIS POINT OF ORDER BEFORE, AND THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN RULED.
SO THEREFORE, VICE MAYOR WILL BE ABLE TO FINISH HIS THREE MINUTES CONTINUING DOWN THE PATH AS HIS TO GO.
PLEASE PROCEED. 20 BORDER CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU CLARIFY YOUR NAME, PLEASE? CERTAINLY. OF SOME OF THE SPEAKERS.
SO YOU ALL HAVE RAISED THE ISSUE OF THE MANAGER'S SALARY.
I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR FOR THE VICE MAYOR, BUT I BELIEVE THAT HIS HIS COMMENTS ARE IN RESPONSE TO THOSE OBSERVATIONS ABOUT, WELL, WE START WITH THE MANAGER, AS HAS BEEN SUGGESTED. WHERE DO WE END AGAIN, YOU KNOW? I I BELIEVE THAT.
THE BEST WAY TO GET THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND ALL THE ITEMS IS TO ALLOW EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO SPEAK YOUR MIND.
IT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE WITHOUT INTERRUPTION, BY AND BY BY EACH OTHER.
I AGAIN, DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR THE VICE MAYOR, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT HIS VIEW IS THAT HIS DISCUSSION IS, IN FACT RELATED TO THE ISSUE OF THE MANAGER'S SALARY THAT WAS RAISED BEFORE. THAT IS MY POINT EXACTLY WHEN COMMISSIONER BOLTON FIRST BROUGHT IT UP, THEN COMMISSIONER GUNN BROUGHT IT UP.
SO I'M TRYING TO FINISH THIS UP.
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IS OUR ASSISTANCE TO THE MANAGER AFTER THAT, BECAUSE SHE'S UP NEXT WITH SALARY BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEN JUST AFTER THAT.SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I WOULD ASK THE MAYOR TO PLEASE JUST CALL THE ROLL AND AND VOTE AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, I DO HAVE THE OR YOUR COUNCILMAN, OK, COMMISSIONER PLACKO HAS TO HAVE HER THROUGH.
SORRY, I HIT THE WRONG WAY, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, LET'S STAY ON TOPIC, WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT OTHER THINGS ANOTHER DAY.
BUT PLEASE, LET'S STAY ON TOPIC AND GET THROUGH THIS ONE.
LET'S CALL THE VOTE. THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY CLERK POINT OF ORDER.
CLERK COMMISSIONER GELIN MADE A POINT THAT THE VICE MAYOR ASKED FOR FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS AND RESCINDED THAT.
CAN YOU SEND ME A COPY OF THE OPTING IN TO RECEIVE THAT FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PLEASE.
AND PLEASE ALSO SEND A COPY OF ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WHO ASKED FOR THE FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
MY COMMENTS WILL BE QUICK AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE VOTE, BASICALLY THESE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT ARE BEING REHASHED NOW.
THE PROCESS SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN THAT EVEN CAME TO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT A WORKSHOP FIRST.
AND THEN THREE OF US ASKING FOR THESE ITEMS TO BE EVEN HAVING OUR PUBLIC FINANCIAL DIRECTOR EVEN LOOKING INTO AN ALL THE OTHER.
SO THE STAFF THAT HAD TO LOOK INTO IT BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT INTO A MEMO FORM, THIS NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS WAY. AS I SAID, THE PAST FIVE MONTHS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT NOT HAPPENING AGAIN.
AND WE'RE DOING THINGS PROCEDURALLY WHERE WE HAVE A WORKSHOP.
AND AS WE HAVE SAID, WE HAVE A BUDGET MEETING COMING UP JUNE 5TH, 17TH.
LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THESE ITEMS NEED TO BE DISCUSSED THERE OR PUT TO BED PERMANENTLY THERE. WE SHOULD NOT BE REWRITING HISTORY TO MAKE OURSELVES FEEL BETTER.
AND I AM GOING TO PUT ON THE POINT AND I AGREE WITH THE VICE MAYOR SINCE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THREE PEOPLE THAT YES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR CITY IS VERY GOOD AT IS WE HAVE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO WHEN OUR RESIDENTS NEED ANYTHING, THEY KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN THE CITY ARE GOING TO DO AN EXCELLENT JOB BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS.
AND I'M SURE NONE OF US ON THE DAIS WHO'VE BEEN WORKING IN THEIR JOBS FOR YEARS WOULD EVER WANT TO JUST BE STAYING AT THE INITIAL SALARY.
THAT IS THE REASON WHY OUR SALARIES TRADITIONALLY WILL RAISE AND GO UP, WHETHER IT'S COST OF LIVING AND BONUSES, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
NEVER MIND. I'M GOING TO CALL THE ROLL.
YES, I REMEMBER WHERE EMOTIONLESS.
VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS, YES, COMMISSIONER PLACKO, YES, COMMISSIONER GELIN NO, COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YES, THE MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO ONE.
THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GOING TO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY. I KNOW THAT A NUMBER OF YOU WERE HERE JUST TO HEAR THE BUDGET ITEM. SO IF YOU WISH TO STAY FOR LONGER, YOU'RE WELCOME TO.
IF NOT, WE WILL NOT BE OFFENDED IF YOU HEAD ON HOME.
WE ARE GOING TO RESUME OUR MEETING BACK IN ORDER TO WHERE WE WERE ON THE AGENDA.
YES, PLEASE. SO WE AT THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CITY MANAGER.
[6. CONSENT AGENDA]
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? GET HOME SAFELY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS THIS EVENING, MADAM.THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
YES. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TO ZERO FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OK, COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
YOUR LIGHT WAS ON BEFORE I WENT TO CONSENT AGENDA.
WE'RE NOW AT THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, A CITY ATTORNEY.
I'M SORRY. AND THIS IS ONE FOR WHICH ITEM YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT.
[5. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION (Part 2 of 2)]
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FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT YOU WERE NOT HERE FOR EARLIER, SO.LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME VERY INTERESTING HOURS AND I'M GOING TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO COME A POINT OF ORDER THROUGH THE CHAIR, CITY ATTORNEY.
DOES THAT REQUIRE CONSENSUS, CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION? YES, IT DOES. YES, IT DOES REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE OF THE COMMISSION TO GRANT THE SPEAKER THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK OUT OF ORDER.
THANKS FOR CLARIFYING MOMENT, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME.
I WILL ASK, IS THERE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ALLOW THIS RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER TO SPEAK AS HE MS. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION EARLIER DUE TO HIS JOB? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW THE SPEAKER TO SPEAK.
SHE JUST MADE THE MOTION FOR A SECOND.
THANK YOU. YES, I DID FOR A SECOND, SO I CALL THE ROLL WHENEVER MAYOR GOMEZ.
AND THE MAYOR CAN REDUCE FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES.
NOT TRUE. WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A SECOND ROUND.
SO ANYWAY, WE CAN DEAL WITH THIS AT ANOTHER TIME AT A WORKSHOP AND PERHAPS WE DIDN'T FINISH. SHE HASN'T FINISHED CALLING THE ROOM.
COMMISSIONER PLACKO. GUNN MR. GELIN. YES. AND VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS.
YES, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU. NAME I JUST FOR THE RECORD, FRED GOLOK.
SIXTY NINE EIGHTY WEST MCNABB ROAD.
TAMIRA, WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN HERE THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR TWENTY YEARS, TWENTY YEARS, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF CITY OF TAMARAC AND HERE WE GO WITH THIS MAN IS GOING TO MAY LEAVE US SOON AND IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
WE ALREADY LOST A GREAT ATTORNEY, SAMUEL GOREN, AND NOW WE MAY LOSE THIS MAN.
THAT'S INSANE. I THINK THAT'S INSANE.
THE MAN HAS TWENTY YEARS EXPERIENCE HERE.
AND WHEN YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT HIS PAY, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND, THAT'S INCLUDING BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING ALL TOGETHER.
SO WHEN PEOPLE AND THE RESIDENTS HERE, HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND THE WAY YOU GUYS, THE WAY SOME PEOPLE HERE SAY IT, PEOPLE TAKE IT AS, YEAH, HE GETS A HALF A MILLION LIKE PAYCHECK A YEAR. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT.
WE LOST A GREAT LAWYER, CITY ATTORNEY, AND NOW WE MAY LOSE THIS MAN.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF INSANE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A NEW ATTORNEY NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A MAN WITH TWENTY YEARS EXPERIENCE THAT KNOWS THE CITY OF TAMARAC BETTER THAN MOST OF YOU.
I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP HIM OUT.
THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO UP HIS SALARY.
THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST ME.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. WE WILL NOW GO BACK TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM OF SEVEN A.M.
[7.a. City Attorney Contract]
THE ATTORNEY CONTRACT.THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER, GELIN, COMMISSIONER, GELIN.
REMEMBER, YOU'RE PRESENTING AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO A DISCUSSION.
AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, THE CITY COMMISSION GAVE THE APPROVAL TO SELECT THIS FIRM AND JOHN HERRON AS THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF TAMRAT, AND THAT'S FINE.
IT PASSED BY MAJORITY DECISION.
HOWEVER, THE CITY COMMISSION DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH MR. HERRON AND HIS LAW FIRM.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS CONTRACT, NO ONE IS ILLEGAL.
NUMBER TWO, WHILE MR. HERRON IS A FINE ATTORNEY AND HAS BEEN AN ATTORNEY FOR A LONG TIME AND HAS REPRESENTED OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THIS COMMISSION IS NOT AS FOOLISH AS I THINK IT IS, BUT IT'S A COMPLETE CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO HAVE MR. HERRON, WHO REPRESENTED THE WOODLANDS, WHO CROSSED EXAMINE OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, WHO CANNOT GIVE US ANY ADVICE OR COUNSEL ON THE BIGGEST PROJECT THAT'S COME TO TAMARAC IN THE NEXT 90 TO 120 DAYS, THE 13TH FLOOR INVESTMENTS WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECT OF ADDING 400 HOMES INTO THE WOODLANDS.
HE CAN'T TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.
HE CAN'T GIVE US ADVICE, COUNSEL, ANYTHING.
IT'S A COMPLETE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
SO WHILE I'M SURE HE'S A FINE ATTORNEY, I'VE TALKED TO HIM BEFORE.
I MET HIM BEFORE. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR HIM TO BE THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. I WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE WITH IT IF HE HAD NOT REPRESENTED THE WOODLANDS OR THE DEFEND THE WOODLANDS ORGANIZATION.
BUT BECAUSE HE HAS IT'S A COMPLETE CONFLICT OF INTERESTS.
SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THIS COMMISSION, AGAIN, DID NOT AUTHORIZE COMMISSIONER,
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BOLTON, COMMISSIONER, PLACKO COMMISSIONER OR VICE MAYOR OF THE LOWBALLS DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE TERMS AND AGREEMENT OF THE CONTRACT.WE JUST GOT THE CONTRACT YESTERDAY THAT WAS SIGNED YESTERDAY, AND WE HAD NO OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT OR CHALLENGE THE CONTRACT.
SO NOW WE'RE PAYING FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH TO THIS FIRM AND HE ONLY HAS TO SPEND A MINIMUM OF EIGHT HOURS PER WEEK AT THE COMMISSIONER MEETING.
SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONER MEETINGS ALONE LASTS EIGHT HOURS.
SO SO THAT'S GOING TO BE SOME EXCESSIVE COSTS.
THE CITY ATTORNEY DOES NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE HOURLY RATES OR MONTHLY INVOICES, SO HE COULD BE WORKING EIGHT HOURS OR 16 HOURS A MONTH AND ONLY TO AND CHARGE FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE'S WORKING 16 HOURS OR 40 HOURS.
NONE OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE CONTRACT WERE APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A SECTION OR ITEM 14 ON THE CONTRACT THAT SAYS THAT WE MUST WAIVE OUR RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY.
MADAM MAYOR. WHY WOULD YOU WAIVE OUR RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY? WE KNOW THAT LAW FIRMS ALWAYS HOLD FUNDRAISERS FOR JUDGES, WHICH IS LEGAL, BUT IT'S ALSO DESIGNED TO CURRY FAVOR.
WHY WILL WE REMOVE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS FROM THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING A PART OF OUR TRIAL IF WE WERE TO EVER BE IN A TRIAL? THESE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THIS CONTRACT WERE NOT REVIEWED BY THIS COMMISSION, WE DID NOT HAVE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL TO HAVE US GO THROUGH THE CONTRACT AND MAKE A DECISION ON IT.
AND SO WHILE WE DID AGREE TO HIRE THE FIRM AND THIS ATTORNEY, WHICH I AGAIN THINK IS WRONG BECAUSE IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, EACH COMMISSIONER ON THIS DANCE SHOULD HAVE NOT HAVE SHOULD HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT, MAKE AMENDMENTS AND CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT, FOR EXAMPLE.
I WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO WAIVE A TRIAL BY JURY.
WE SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE A TRIAL BY JURY OR TRIAL BY JUDGE.
SO THIS THIS THIS CONTRACT, I BELIEVE, IS NULL AND VOID AND SHOULD BE VOTED AS NULL AND VOID BECAUSE THERE ARE ITEMS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.
AND AGAIN, WE DO NOT HAVE A HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT AND GIVE OUR FEEDBACK. AND THIS COMMISSION DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER OR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT ON OUR BEHALF.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL GO FIRST.
OH, NO, COMMISSIONER BOLTON I NOTICE THAT THE CLERK DID NOT KEEP TIME AND WHILE HE WAS PRESENT OR HE WAS PRESENT OR HE DOES NOT GET TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON IT.
THE PRESENTER. I'M A CO PRESENTER.
THANK YOU. OH, REALLY? POINT OF ORDER. NOW UP TO THE CHAIR, CITY ATTORNEY.
SO THE MAYOR JUST SAID I'M THE PRESENTER, SO THERE'S NO TIME KEEPING YET.
FORGET IT. YEAH, I THINK WE'LL GO BACK ON THAT ONE.
WHOO! ALL RIGHT, SO A SPECIAL WELCOME TO MR. HEREN AND HIS TEAM FROM FOX CHILD LLP.
I BELIEVE THAT MR. HERRON IS JUST AS CAPABLE AS AN ATTORNEY.
BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING MR. HERRON'S TEAM OF LAWYERS.
I MUST DISCLOSE, THOUGH, MAYOR, THAT I HAD A HEALTHY AND PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION WITH ATTORNEY SAM GOREN AND HIS PARTNER, JACOB HOROWITZ.
TODAY, NEITHER SAM OR JACOB SOLICITED THE PHONE CALL.
I REACHED OUT TO THEM ON MY OWN VOLITION.
I MUST SAY THAT BOTH GENTLEMEN WERE RESPECTFUL, POLITE AND COURTEOUS.
DURING THE DISCUSSION, I ASKED MR. GORM IF HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN RETURNING TO TAMARAC.
HE ADVISED THAT HE WOULD ASK HIS LAW PARTNERS IF THERE IS ANY INTEREST IN DOING SO.
HE WAS VERY RESPECTFUL TO MR. HERRON AND MINDFUL THAT HE IS OUR CITY ATTORNEY TODAY, BUT I REMAIN OPTIMISTIC THAT HE
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WILL REPORT BACK WITH SOME TYPE OF INTEREST.IN THE MEANTIME, I AM ENCOURAGING ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. GOREN AND HIS FIRM.
IF AT SOME POINT ANY OF YOU WANT HIM TO RETURN, PLEASE MAKE A MOTION AT THE APPROPRIATE MEETING UNDERSTANDING I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF SUCH MOTION.
MR. HERRON IS A STRONG ATTORNEY.
HE KNOWS HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE HIS SERVICES, AND MY SENTIMENTS ARE NOT A TESTAMENT OF MY DISPLEASURE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I ADVOCATED TO HIRE MR. HERRON TO GIVE US A SECOND OPINION ON SAM'S HANDLING OF THE STORAGE FACILITY DEAL.
HE WAS OUTSTANDING AND DID A GREAT JOB.
SO MR. HERRON WOULD HAVE UNDOUBTEDLY BEEN MY FRONT RUNNER FOR CITY ATTORNEY HAD WE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SELECTING A TOP THREE AND THEN EVENTUALLY SELECTING ONE.
SO AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WHEN I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE MR. HERRON, I JUMPED AT THE OPPORTUNITY.
HOWEVER, EVEN THOUGH MR. ADENHART AND MR. HERRON ARE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONALS AND I ADMIRE THEIR WORK, IT NEVER FELT RIGHT TO ME THE WAY SOME LEFT SHAW.
I WAS UNHAPPY WITH HIS HANDLING OF THE STORAGE FACILITY.
I AM FIRST ELECTED TO SERVE MY RESIDENTS AND ADVOCATE FOR THEIR NEEDS, AND THEY STILL DO NOT WANT A STORAGE FACILITY ON THE CORNER OF ROCK ISLAND AND COMMERCIAL.
HOWEVER, I HAVE ALWAYS FOUND COMFORT IN MR. GORAN'S ADVICE.
HE IS SMART, HE'S PROFESSIONAL, AND HE HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE.
I ASKED MYSELF TODAY WHERE DID I GAIN THE WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE I HAVE AS A COMMISSIONER SO I CAN GO HEAD TO HEAD WITH THE MAYOR? IT ALL CAME FROM SAM GOREN.
IF SAM DOES NOT WANT TO RETURN, WE HAVE A GREAT ATTORNEY AND MR. HERRON AND I WOULD BE PROUD TO START A NEW CHAPTER WITH HIM.
BUT I WANT THE RECORD TO BE CLEAR THAT MR. GOREN IS WHO I'D RATHER HAVE AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
MR. GORAN IS GOING TO BE MEETING WITH HIS LAW PARTNERS ON FRIDAY.
I'M ASKING MY COLLEAGUES ON THE SUNSHINE TO CALL MR. GORMAN, TELL HIM THAT YOU MISS HIM, TELL HIM HOW MUCH WE LOVE HIM, AND TELL HIM HOW MUCH HIS SERVICES MATTERED TO US IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
AND WHEN YOU DO COME BACK TO THE NEXT CITY COMMISSION MEETING, IF HE IS INTERESTED IN HIS JOB, SIX DAYS AT LEAST BEFORE THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, I WILL PUT ON THE AGENDA THE REHIRING OF MR. GOREN TO ASSUME THE ROLE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN.
AND I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WOULD APPRECIATE THAT MOVE AND REHIRE MR. GORDON AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A TESTAMENT OF MY DISPLEASURE FOR MR. HERRON. MR. HERRON IS A CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL.
I BELIEVE THAT HE IS A CAPABLE ATTORNEY THAT WOULD SERVE THE CITY OF TAMARAC WELL.
BUT I CERTAINLY MS. MR. GORAN. AND I THINK THAT IT IS FULL TIME THAT.
WE RETURN CALM TO TOM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR CITY ATTORNEY COMMISSIONER AND GUNN RAISED THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST REGARDING THE VIOLENCE IS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU CAN RECUSE YOURSELF FROM LEGAL ADVICE TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
CAN YOU PLEASE ELABORATE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I'M SURE THAT YES, SIR.
WITH PLEASURE. YOU ALL MAY RECALL, AS INDICATED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON, THAT STEVE TAMRAT PREVIOUSLY USED THE SERVICES OF ME AND MY FIRM IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS IN LIGHT OF THE PRIOR REPRESENTATION ISSUE THAT THAT REGARDING THE WOODLAND'S, IT'S MADE COMMON SENSE FOR ME TO REACH OUT TO THE FLORIDA BAR, WHICH I HAVE ON ONE OCCASION, BUT ON TWO OCCASIONS TO ASK THE SPECIFIC QUESTION.
AND DURING THE COURSE OF THE ENGAGEMENT OF MY FIRM BACK ON THE PRESTIGE HOMES MATTER, I DISCLOSED THAT THE FACT THAT I HAD CONFERRED AND CONSULTED WITH THE FLORIDA BAR FLORIDA BAR WILL PROVIDE OPINIONS VERBALLY.
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IT TAKES THREE TO FIVE WEEKS FOR THEM TO ISSUE A WRITTEN OPINION, BUT IN MY FIRM OR IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SO.BUT IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FLORIDA BAR, THEY DIRECTED ME TO A SPECIFIC BAR RULE THAT GOVERNS ALL ATTORNEYS AND TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT PROVISION.
IT IS NOT A CONFLICT FOR FOX ROTHSCHILD TO REPRESENT THE THE CITY IN ANY OF THE GENERAL MATTERS, INCLUDING NOT LIMITED TO THE WOODLAND'S MATTERS.
IT IS UP TO YOU ALL TO CONSENT TO THAT REPRESENTATION.
IF YOU SO CHOOSE, WE CAN BRING IN OUTSIDE COUNSEL IF THAT IS YOUR CHOICE.
OR ALTERNATIVELY, WHAT I HAVE SUGGESTED IN BARR SAYS IS PERFECTLY OK IS TO BRING IN AN ATTORNEY FROM MY FIRM WHO HAS HAD NO ASSOCIATION.
THREE. PLEASE PULL YOUR MICROPHONE.
SO WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, THE THE SOLUTION OR THE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED BY COMMISSIONER GELIN IS TO BRING IN SOMEONE ELSE FROM MY FIRM WHO FRANKLY WASN'T EVEN A MEMBER OF MY FIRM WHEN I WAS HANDLING THE WOODLAND'S MATTER, WHICH HAS BEEN OVER FOR OVER A YEAR, BY THE WAY.
AND AS A RESULT, THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD HAVE ALL THE CONTACT AND THE COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF AND WITH THE COMMISSION WITH REGARD TO THAT MATTER.
I WOULD NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY WAY, FORM OR FASHION IN THOSE DELIBERATIONS OR THAT ADVICE. THE ATTORNEY WHO I WOULD BRING IS PART OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WE SUBMITTED.
HE IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN LAND USE MATTERS.
IN FACT, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, HE WAS THE MEMBER.
HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PALM BEACH COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SITS IN A VERY SIMILAR CAPACITY TO YOU AND TO YOUR PLANNING BOARD IN REVIEWING THOSE TYPES OF SIMILAR ISSUES.
SO HE'S VERY CONVERSANT, VERY WELL, KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.
SO THAT IS THE WAY THAT WE WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE COMMISSION CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
THOSE CONCERNS, OBVIOUSLY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, KIND OF THE FAILSAFE IS IF YOU SO DIRECT BRINGING IN OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER GUNN ALSO BROUGHT UP THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT BEING AN EXCESS OF COST.
DOES YOUR CONTRACT SORT OF KIND OF MIRROR THOSE OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS? AND WOULD YOU SAY THAT IN THE SENTIMENT OF COMMISSIONER AND GELIN SAYING IT'S EXCESS WHEN WE THE CITY RACKED UP 200000 DOLLARS FROM THE PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY IN A MATTER OF THREE MONTHS, WHERE WOULD YOU SAY THAT IN COMPARISON TO THE EXCESS WORD, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE PUT BEFORE AND THE PROPOSAL THAT WE SUBMITTED AND THE AGREEMENT THAT'S BEEN SIGNED IS SUBSTANTIALLY OF IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT WE SUBMITTED IS THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY CAP OUR MONTHLY FEES TO THE CITY AT THE AMOUNT OF FIFTY FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS IN AND I ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL IN FACT BE MONTHS WHERE ME AND MY FIRM MAY EXCEED THAT 50000 DOLLARS IN SERVICES RENDERED TO THE CITY, BUT WE WILL NOT COLLECT ANYTHING MORE THAN THOSE 50000 CITY MANAGER.
IS THAT SIMILAR TO WHAT SAM GORAN'S FIRM AND HANS SUNTANS FIRM WERE ALSO COLLECTING PER MONTH OR ANNUALLY? SO A KIND OF A QUICK REVIEW OF WHAT EVERYONE WAS BEING PAID IS IS IT'S ALL FAIRLY SIMILAR. THANK YOU, SIR.
S. ATTORNEY YOU COMMISSIONER GELIN BROUGHT UP TERMS AND CONDITIONS REGARDING 14.
GEE, NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IN YOUR PROPOSAL TO THE CITY WHEN YOU FIRST APPLIED, DOES THAT MIRROR THE AGREEMENT THAT MAYOR GOMEZ SIGNED? YES, IT DOES. WITH REGARD TO THE SPECIFIC ISSUE OF THE WAIVER.
I THINK THAT'S THE SECTION THAT THAT THAT COMMISSIONER GELIN WAS REFERRING TO.
I PERSONALLY USE IT BECAUSE IT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD.
I DO NOT AND HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED TO ANY CAMPAIGNS OF ANY POLITICAL POL AND POLITICIANS,
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INCLUDING JUDGES IN THE ENTIRE TIME THAT I HAVE LIVED IN SOUTH FLORIDA ANYWHERE.SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IN YOUR PROPOSAL MIRRORS THE ONE WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
SUBSTANTIALLY. OK, SO IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY COMMISSIONER GUNN TO REVIEW THAT BEFORE WE SIGN ANYTHING AND NOT AFTERWARDS.
AND I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO END DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS MATTER, CONSIDERING THAT WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED IT, MOVED ON AND IT'S COMING BACK FOR DISCUSSION AFTER THE FACT.
WE DO NOT APPROVE THE CONTRACT.
THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS SEEING THE CONTRACT WORK IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF GUNN, YOU HAVEN'T REVIEWED THE CONTRACT COMMISSIONER GUNN.
BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY'S HAD THEIR FIRST ROUND TO SPEAK.
YOU WANT TO CALL THE POINT OF ORDER AFTER THE FIRST ROUND OF SPEAKING.
PLEASE DO SO COMMISSIONER PLACKO WOULD LIKE TO SAY SO, BUT YOU STILL HAVE SOME TIME LEFT ON YOURS. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH TO SAY THAT.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
THANK YOU. I JUST LIKE TO SAY, WHEN I INITIALLY MET WITH MR. HERIN FOR THE INTERVIEW PRIOR TO HIM ACCEPTING THE JOB, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I ASKED HIM WAS ABOUT HIS REPRESENTATION OF THE WOODLAND'S AND HOW THAT WOULD BE DEALT WITH.
SO I WAS VERY CLEAR HOW HE WAS GOING TO BE INVOLVED OR NOT BE INVOLVED, SO THAT, AT LEAST FROM MY STANDPOINT, IS NOT AN ISSUE.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS WE ACCEPTED HIS PROPOSAL AND WE TOOK HIS PROPOSAL AND TURNED IT INTO A CONTRACT.
THAT IS A STANDARD PROCEDURE FOR ALLAWI.
WITHOUT APPROVAL, I'M GETTING YES, I'M GETTING TO KNOW THE CITY MANAGER, WHY DON'T I ASK THE CITY MANAGER THAT THEN? WELL, IT'S REALLY THROUGH THEIR ATTORNEY, BUT CITY MANAGER, GO AHEAD.
OR SOMEONE WHO AS CITY MANAGER, GUNN.
SO WHAT WE DID COMMISSIONER PLACKO WAS BASED ON YOUR MOTION IN THE DIRECTION TO BEGIN MR. HERRON'S EMPLOYMENT.
THE DAY FOLLOWING YOUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING, THE PURCHASING MANAGER DID TAKE THE YELLOW Y AND WORK THAT INTO THE THE AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED WITH MR. HERRON'S FIRM, THE PURCHASING MANAGER AND MR. HERRON WENT BACK AND FORTH ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
EVERYTHING WAS CLARIFIED AND THE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED BY THE MAYOR AND MYSELF AT THAT POINT. DID ANYTHING CHANGE FROM WHAT WE INITIALLY SAW FROM THE WELL KNOWN MATERIAL OR SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES WERE MADE? OK, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, I WILL BE THE FIFTH AND LAST PERSON ON THIS COMMENT, BECAUSE THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST WAS DEALT WITH.
THIS IS THE SAME MANNER IN WHICH THE CITY HANDS TONIGHT.
CONTRACTS WENT INTO PLAY IS THE ALAWI.
WE DO NOT ASK FOR AN RFP OR AN RFQ.
WE DO NOT ASK FOR ANY KIND OF NEGOTIATIONS.
AND THE STANDARD PROCEDURE FOR THIS CITY IS THE WAY THIS CONTRACT WAS SIGNED.
AND YES, AS AN ATTORNEY, I SEE MAJORITY OF MY CONTRACTS SAY WAIVER OF JURY.
I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS PLENTY OF CONTRACTS THAT ALSO HAVE THAT IN THERE FOR OTHER PEOPLE. THIS DID NOT NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION APPROVED THE CITY ATTORNEY AT LAST MEETING AND WAS DIRECTED TO PROCEED TO HAVE MR. HAREN AND EVERYTHING BUTTONED AND SEALED SO HE WOULD BE WORKING THE NEXT DAY.
THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED FOUR TO ONE.
THIS IS JUST AN ATTEMPT TO REVISE THINGS.
AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
FOR CLARITY, IT WAS A MOTION TO END THE DEBATE, NO MOTION TO YES, MOST INTENSE DEBATE AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND.
WE DID. SO ANY DISCUSSION AT THE END OF DISCUSSION? WE DID NOT HAVE A MOTION TO END DEBATE.
I MADE A MOTION TO END DISCUSSION AND WE DID NOT HAVE THIS.
OK, BUT WE HAVE WAIT STANDING MICROPHONES.
WE DID NOT HAVE A SECOND FOR A MOTION TO END DEBATE.
AND YOU YOU CONTINUED AFTER THE MOTION, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO END DEBATE BACK INTO.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
YES, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON, A MOTION TO END DEBATE.
BUT THE ITEM JUST SAYS CITY ATTORNEY CONTRACT IS JUST A DISCUSSION DISCUSSION.
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YOU HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO END DISCUSSION AT ANY TIME AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS COMMISSION HAS DECIDED TO DO IT THROUGH A MOTION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO JUST FINISH CALLING THE ROLL.
ARE UP TO VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS.
AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON, NO EMOTION PASSES THREE TO TWO.
THANK YOU. AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO.
[7.b. TR 13593 - Fiber Network Expansion (Phase 2)]
SEVEN BTR ONE THREE FIVE NINE THREE FIBER NETWORK EXPANSION, PHASE TWO.SO THE ATTORNEY PLEASE READ THE TITLE INTO THE RECORD THIS RESOLUTION.
SO YOU COMMISSIONER STEVE TAMARAC, FLORIDA WORKING IFB NUMBER TWENTY ONE.
ELEVEN B TO UNITECH INC FOR THE FIBER NETWORK EXPANSION.
PHASE TWO AUTHORIZING THE APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE A FIXED PRICE CONTRACT BETWEEN UNITECH INC AND THE CEO TAMARAC TO EXPAND THE CITY'S FIBER NETWORK IN THE LUMP SUM AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION ONE HUNDRED FORTY SIX THOUSAND SEVENTY DOLLARS.
A CONTINGENCY OF ONE HUNDRED FOURTEEN SIX SIX OR SEVEN THOUSAND 10 PERCENT FOR PERMITS AND OTHER UNFORESEEN NEEDS WILL BE ADDED TO THE PROJECT ACCOUNT FOR A TOTAL BUDGET OF ONE MILLION TWO HUNDRED SIXTY THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN DOLLARS AUTHORIZING THE APPROPRIATIONS. THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED.
TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED SEVENTY NINE DOLLARS TO BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE, BUT I'M SORRY TO BE INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE BUDGET AMENDMENT PURSUANT TO.
I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M READING THE RIGHT.
I'M SORRY, I WAS FOR STATUTES ONE SIXTY SIX TO FORTY ONE TO AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURES FOR THE APPROPRIATE ACCOUNTS AUTHORIZED IN THE CITY MANAGER DESIGNEE TO MAKE CHANGES AS YOU CHANGE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE THRESHOLDS AND PROVISION DELINEATED.
SECTION SIX, DASH ONE FORTY SEVEN G.
TWO OF THE TAMRAT PROCUREMENT CODE.
PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SURVIVABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SORRY FOR THE. WORRIES AT ALL.
THE ONLY THING IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX YOUR MIC A LOT CLOSER TO YOU.
SO THE TITLE WAS JUST READ IN FOR THOSE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO HEAR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THE DIRECTOR OF ISD LEVENT SUCUOGLU IS AVAILABLE FOR PRESENTATION IF NECESSARY AND ALSO AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A SECOND PHASE FOR US ON THIS.
AND I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ARE THERE ANYBODY IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE BUT THE LIGHT JUST SHOWN ON.
YES, YOU CAN COME UP HERE AND GET QUESTIONS AND WE'LL GET ANSWERS BACK TO YOU, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN EXCHANGE AT THIS POINT.
THIS IS A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, BUT AT ANY TIME, IF YOU WISH, WHEN YOU LIKE TO, YOU CAN COME UP AND ASK US THE QUESTIONS AND WE'LL HAVE THE IT DEPARTMENT GET BACK TO YOU WITH THE ANSWERS. EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT I'M GETTING TEXTS FROM RESIDENTS THAT THEY CANNOT HEAR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
YES. THAT IS WHY I MADE THE REQUEST TO HAVE HIS MICROPHONE.
I WILL ENDEAVOR TO SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE.
THANK YOU. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD. AND I'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
NICOLE PLACKO AND DISTRICT FOUR OFF OF 17TH AVENUE.
I'M JUST A NEW RESIDENT, SO I KNOW THIS IS ALREADY IN PHASE TWO.
AND I WAS READING THE THING AND IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE DOING CITY HALL AND A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS. IS THERE ANY PLANS EITHER THAT PHASE ONE COVERED OR FUTURE PHASE IS TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS SET UP WITH FIBER SO THAT WE WANTED TO GET THE LAST LIKE BASICALLY FROM THAT MAIN ROAD TO OUR HOUSE TO FIBER? OR IS THAT NOT IS IT JUST MAKING SURE THAT CITY BUILDINGS HAVE FIBER? OK, CITY MANAGER, I'D LIKE TO GET AN ANSWER RIGHT, I WAS JUST GOING TO I WAS I WAS GOING TO ANSWER, BUT I SEE MR. SUCUOGLU ON THE SCREEN IS READY TO GO.
SO LEVENT, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THE WOMAN'S QUESTION, PLEASE? LEVENT FUNDERWHITE, DIRECTOR OF THIS FIBER NETWORK, IS FOR THE USE OF CITY OPERATIONS AND CITY STAFF, AND BASICALLY IT PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS AND FOR TODAY
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AND FOR FUTURE USE.THE PUBLIC ELEMENT OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE OUR PUBLIC WI-FI IN THE CITY'S PARKS AND WE'RE EXPANDING THE USE OF THAT OR THE UTILIZATION OF THAT TO THE PARKS WITH THE SECOND PHASE TO MAINLAND, TO CARAVAN PARK AND A NUMBER OF OTHER LOCATIONS.
BUT THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE PUBLIC FACING ELEMENT OF THE FIBER NETWORK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CITY CLERK, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE SKY WHO WISHES TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? THERE IS NOT MANY EXCELLENT PUBLIC COMMENTS OR NO CLOSED.
COMMISSIONER GELIN IS YOUR MEKLIT FOR YOUR FIVE MINUTES.
YEAH, SO. RIGHT AFTER IT SAYS FOR ACTUALLY ONE SIXTY SIX POINT TWO FOR ONE AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES FROM THE APPROPRIATE ACCOUNTS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS DESIGNEE USING THE SAME LANGUAGE ON ITEM TÍO TWO FOUR SEVEN TWO.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE LAST ITEM REGARDING THE CITY ATTORNEY CONTRACT ILLEGAL.
WE DID NOT AUTHORIZE YOU OR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT.
AND SO I'M JUST PUTTING THAT ON THE RECORD.
SO NOTED, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS ITEM? CNN, CITIPOWER, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
YES, COMMISSIONER PLACKO, YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YES, AND VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS.
YES, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TO ZERO.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PLACKO, I SEE YOUR LIGHT LIT, I DON'T KNOW, OK, THANK YOU.
SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO 7C SELECTION OF A NAME, THE DOG CONTEST WINNER.
[7.c. Selection of the "Name the Dog" Contest Winner]
IF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE MORE DETAILS OF THE ITEM, PLEASE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ABSOLUTELY.MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MAXINE HOLLOWAY, YOU NEEDED TO NEEDED AND FOR THE RECORD, AS YOU RECALL, SEVERAL MEETINGS OF ALL PARTY AND THE NATION LONG WOULD BE THE SCULPTURE THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND DURING THE SESSION, WHEN THE COMMISSION AUTHORIZED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THAT ARTIST, YOU ALSO ASKED US TO GO OUT AND TO DO A CONTEST SO WE COULD NAME THE DOG. AND AS YOU RECALL, THE DOG HAS A COLLAR AROUND ITS NECK.
AND SO YOU WANTED TO ENGAGE A COMMUNITY DISSIPATION ON NAMING THE DOG AND HAVING THAT NAME ON THE COLLAR AROUND THE SCULPTURE OF THE DOG'S.
AND SO THE PAYROLL OFFICE DID A GREAT CAMPAIGN.
WE OPENED THE CONTEST TO THIRD AND FOURTH GRADERS OR THE FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADERS.
I APOLOGIZE. THAT GOES TO SCHOOL IN AND AROUND THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
THE CONTEST WAS OPEN FOR ABOUT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
AND WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF ENTRIES, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP.
WE HAD TO DISQUALIFY THREE BECAUSE THEY DID NOT MEET THE ENTRY REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO IN YOUR BACKUP, YOU WILL SEE THE LIST AND THE NAME OF THE STUDENTS, AS WELL AS THE VOTE THAT WAS RECEIVED BY THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.
THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD A GOOD SELECTION OF OPTIONS, AND SO THEY DIDN'T SEND JUST ONE NAME.
AND SO A TOTAL OF FOUR NAMES WERE SENT.
TWO OF THE NAMES THAT WERE VOTED, THREE VOTES BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, OK, AND CHIP. AND THEN TWO OTHER NAMES THAT RECEIVED TWO VOTES FROM THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.
STRONG AND COURAGE IN YOUR BACK.
COPIES IN THE ESSAYS WRITTEN BY THE CHILDREN ARE INCLUDED AS WELL.
AND AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, THE WINNING STUDENT WILL RECEIVE RECOGNITION IN THE TEN PROGRAM.
THEY WILL ALSO COME TO A FUTURE COMMISSION MEETING AND READ THEIR ESSAY.
THEY WILL RECEIVE A TABLET WITH TWO YEARS OF SERVICE AS WELL AS ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR VISA CARD. SO TONIGHT WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU WILL HELP US TO SELECT THE WINNING ESSAY AND THE WINNER NAMED FOR THE SCULPTURE THAT THE DOG THAT WILL BE LOCATED AT FIRESTATION.
THIRTY SIX. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IT'S.
LOOKS LIKE THEY HAD A LOT OF FUN.
SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE SOME NAMES THAT HAVE NO VOTES, BUT THERE MIGHT BE THESE NOVOS VOTES MAY STILL HAVE SUPPORT FROM THOSE OF US ON THE COMMISSION.
SO THE VOTES BY THE PUBLIC, OUR COMMITTEE NOT TO.
MAKE THE PUBLIC, OUR AFFILIATE COMMITTEE, NOT FEEL LIKE THEIR SELECTION WASN'T IMPORTANT,
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BUT JUST IN CASE SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT SELECTED BY THE COMMITTEE, DO I HAVE ANYBODY? OK, VICE MAYOR, YOU'RE YOUR ARE WE GOING TO DO A TOP THREE PLACKO COMMISSIONER BOLTON SAYS USING HIS AMENABLE WORD.WHAT ABOUT LETTING COMMISSIONER PLACKO CONSIDER NETRA DISTRICT IF SHE HAS A PREFERRED NAME? IT WOULD BE NOT A PROBLEM SHE HADN'T PUT HER LIGHT ON.
COMMISSIONER PLACKO WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? I'LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU MY OPINION.
I DO SIT ON THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.
SO WHEN THEY VOTED FOR THESE, I CANNOT DO THAT.
AND VERY HONESTLY, I LIKED SPECKLES.
THEY DID NOT. IT GOT ONE VOTE, I BELIEVE, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION.
SPECK'S BECCLES CIRCLES AND CIRCLES THE VERY FIRST ONE.
I'M GOING TO READ IT OUT LOUD FOR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY NOT HAVE IT.
WE'VE GOT SPECKLES, MAFRAQ, MS., FRECKLE, FRECKLES, ALEC, THE BRAVE GUARDIAN, FUEGO, DANNY EMBER, MC BLAZE, HOPE, MARVIN STRONG CHIP, A.K.A.
CITY HERO, COURAGE, SPOT AND SPARK.
SO COMMISSIONER PLACKO IS GIVEN HER HER OPINION.
LITZMAN. OK, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMISSIONER BOLTON WHEN IT SAYS SO, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE VOTES.
HOW MANY PEOPLE SIT ON THE COMMITTEE? AND SO THEY RAISED THEIR HANDS, WE HAD FIVE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE COMMITTEE, THREE VOTES, MEANING WE WENT THROUGH EACH NAME AND THAT'S THE MAXIMUM VOTE THAT THAT NAME RECEIVED, WHICH MEANS, FOR EXAMPLE, RECEIVED THREE VOTES, MEANING TWO MEMBERS DID NOT LIKE OPEN, SO THEY DID NOT VOTE FOR.
SO WHAT WHY WOULDN'T WE NOT GO WITH THE MAJORITY? RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE.
THERE WAS THREE TIED AT THREE VOTES, BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN AS THIS COMMISSIONER COMMISSION IS WELL AWARE, WE TAKE THEM AS ADVISORY AND THERE MIGHT BE OTHER DECISIONS FROM THE COMMISSION THAT DO NOT LINE UP WITH.
WHAT WAS THEIR MAJORITY ABOUT? I LIKE SPECKLES MY FRECKLES, I ALSO LIKE HOPE.
LET'S ASK MR. CALHOUN IF YOU WOULD CHOOSE HOPE OR OR SPECKLES LIKE FRECKLES, WHAT HIS OPINION IS.
MR. CALHOUN ARE OUR EXECUTIVE, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LET US KNOW YOUR OPINION, IF YOU WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BEAUTIFUL STATUE BEING NAMED AFTER YOUR BEAUTIFUL WIFE IS WHERE I THINK THE COMMISSIONER IS GOING.
THERE CHAIR, MADAM CHAIR, I WILL ABSTAIN FROM THIS VOTE AND I THINK THAT MY WIFE WOULD BE PLEASED WITH BY ABSTAINING FROM THE VOTE.
I'VE MET YOUR WIFE, MR. CALHOUN, AND SHE'S ADORABLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, HOPE IS A IS A GREAT NAME FOR FOR THE DOG.
BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT YOUR WIFE WOULD APPRECIATE THE DOG BEING NAMED.
HOPE SO. I'LL GO WITH A COMMISSIONER PLACKO WITH SPRECKELS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND ACTUALLY I AGREE WITH SPECKLES, MS. FRECKLES, I SAW IT THE FIRST TIME AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS.
AND SO AS I SEE THAT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A VOTE ON THIS ONE.
OR DO WE NEED A VOTE ON THIS ONE? MADAM MAYOR, THE WAY THAT IT'S LISTED OUT HERE ON THE AGENDA, IS THAT ACTUALLY SELECTING.
SO THE I WOULD SUGGEST THE APPROPRIATE THING IS A VERY QUICK VOTE TO NAME THE STATUTES BECAUSE MANY FRECKLES. ALL RIGHT.
SO I WOULD LIKE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE, TO NAME THE NEW STATUTE THAT WAS REMOVED.
THANK GOODNESS WE GOT A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
WE'VE GOT A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MAYOR GOMEZ.
NO. COMMISSIONER PLACKO, YES, THE MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ONE.
THANK YOU. AND THEN ONE DAY MAYBE WE'LL GET AN ACTUAL SPECKLES AND FRECKLES TO BE AT THE FIREHOUSE. I'M SORRY.
MAY I INTERRUPT FOR JUST A MOMENT WHILE WE'RE ON THE ART COMMITTEE? WE WERE REMISS WHEN WE WERE AT COLONIE WEST WITH THE RIBBON CUTTING.
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WE DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT WERE PUT IN BY OUR PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, THE CHANDELIER THAT THEY CAME UP WITH.AND THE LAST PIECE ON THE WALL ARE SPECTACULAR.
EVERYONE SAID SO AND WE DID FORGET TO THANK THEM.
SO I'D LIKE TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
I AM SORRY. WE ALSO HAD THE PIECE OUTSIDE IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
WE WERE JUST OVERWHELMED BY IT ALL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND COMMISSIONER PLACKO IS RIGHT, AND ACTUALLY THE COMMISSION DID NOT SPEAK AT THE EVENT.
IT WAS NOT AND IT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE AN OVERSIGHT.
AND WE DO APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR MANY HOURS OF DEALING WITH US.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ALONG TO SPEAKING ABOUT PUBLIC ART.
[8.b. TO2453 - Public Art Ordinance Amendment]
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO EIGHT B, C, O TWO FOUR OR FIVE, THREE PUBLIC ART ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. CITY ATTORNEY STRAIGHT INTO THE MIC.THERE YOU GO THROUGH YOUR RECORDS.
YES, MA'AM. METAMORA, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THE CITY COMMISSIONER CITY OF TERREMARK, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES AND TITLE BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS BY SPECIFICALLY AMENDING ARTICLE 11 ENTITLED PUBLIC ART PROGRAM, SECTION FIVE 301.
AND TITLE DEFINITIONS PROVIDE FOR A DEFINITION FOR CONSTRUCTION VALUE, PROVIDING CLARIFICATION FOR THE ASSESSMENT AND COLLECTION OF ONE PERCENT.
ONE PUBLIC ART FEE FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S PUBLIC ART PROGRAM.
AMENDING SECTION FIVE, DESK 302 ENTITLED PUBLIC ART FEE TO ESTABLISH ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS BY WHICH THE REQUIRED ONE PERCENT PUBLIC ART FEE MAY BE PROVIDED FOR IN LIEU OF PAYMENT TO THE CITY'S PUBLIC ART FUND, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PRIDING CONFLICTS, BORROWING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
EXCELLENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED, EMOTION'S SECOND.
SO MOVED. SECOND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMUNITY DIRECTOR, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MAXINE CALLOWAY IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS IS. NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT HAS ANY COMMENTS, SEEING NOBODY IN THE ACTUAL AUDIENCE DOES CITY CLERK ANYBODY IN THE SKY AND NOBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? EXCELLENT PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
I CAN'T TELL, ACTUALLY, IF I HAVE COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION, BECAUSE SOME LIGHTS WERE LEFT ON COMMISSIONER, GELIN, IS THIS A NEW LIGHT FOR COMMENT OR ARE YOU OK SEEING THAT THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MAYOR GOMEZ.
ACTUALLY, I TAKE THAT BACK, I HAD A QUESTION, BUT.
I WANT I WANT TO CONFIRM SOMETHING.
I WILL HAVE A QUESTION TO THE CITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REGARDING THIS MATTER THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE VOTE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT THERE IS AN OVERSIGHT ON THE ARTWORK.
YES, YES, YES, AND THAT'S FINE.
THANK YOU. SORRY I WAS HERE, COMMISSIONER GELIN.
YES, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TO ZERO.
THANK YOU. I THINK I JUST GOT EXCITED THAT THERE WASN'T A DISCUSSION ON SOMETHING FOR ONCE AND I JUST KIND OF FORGOT.
WE ARE NOW MOVING TO AUDIENCES ON SECOND READING.
WE ARE AT TEN A C O TWO FOUR SEVEN ONE AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE DISASTER FUNDING
[10.a. TO2471 - Authorization to Execute Disaster Funding Agreements]
AGREEMENTS. IF YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING, PLEASE TURN YOUR MIKES OFF.CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD.
AN ORDINANCE THE CITY COMMISSIONER CITY, TAMARAC, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION TWO, DASH FIVE DISASTER RELIEF FUNDING AGREEMENTS WITH CITY CODE AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE DISASTER EMERGENCY RELIEF FUNDING AGREEMENTS AND DOCUMENTATION NECESSARY TO SECURE FEDERAL AND STATE EMERGENCY FUNDING FOR COSTS INCURRED BY THE SAME AMERICA AS A RESULT OF ANY CATASTROPHIC EMERGENCY, PROVIDING WITH CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR STABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
CITY CLUBS, YOU HAVE WHATEVER ORDER YOU NEED FOR THAT.
I HAD COMMISSIONER PLACKO AS THE MOVER AND VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS AS THE SECOND HOUR.
OK, THANK YOU. AS THIS IS AN ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE ARE NOW OPENING THE COMMENTS UP FOR THE PUBLIC, SEEING THAT NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK. I WILL ASK THE CITY CLERK IF THERE'S ANYBODY AND I DO NOT KNOW.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED AND I AM NOT SEEING ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION. CITY CLERK.BOLTON, YES. COMMISSIONER GELIN.
YES. AND VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS.
YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TO ZERO.
EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
EVERYONE, PLEASE CLEAR YOUR MIKES.
THANK YOU. TEN BE TO TWO FOUR SEVEN TWO.
[10.b. TO2472 - Amending Chapter 2, Section 2-34]
AMENDING CHAPTER TWO, SECTION TWO.DASH THIRTY FOUR. CITY ATTORNEY, PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD YOU SPENT ON AN ORDINANCE THE CITY COMMISSIONER ISD TAMARAC, FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER TWO, THE CITY CODES OF ORDINANCES AND TITLE ADMINISTRATION, AMENDING ARTICLE TWO ENTITLED TO THE COMMISSION BY AMENDING SECTION TWO THIRTY FOUR AND TITLE COMPREHENSIVE PROCEDURES FOR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS, AMENDING SUBSECTION G ORDER OF BUSINESS TO REMOVE PROCLAMATION'S SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND COMMISSION REPORTS FROM THE GENERAL ORDER BUSINESS.
PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS BROUGHT IN FOR SOLVABILITY.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
SO MOVED. AND BE HERE ALL NIGHT DOING SECOND IN FIRST HERE SECOND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ACTUALLY.
YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS, SO WE'VE GOT EMOTIONAL SECOND, AS THIS IS ALSO A SECOND READING, PUBLIC HEARING IS BEFORE US.
PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN, SAYING THAT THERE'S NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE AUDIENCE IS NOW CLOSED.
BUT FOR VIRTUALLY DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? VIRTUALLY WE DO NOT THAT GREAT.
SO PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION DECLARED.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAYOR GOMEZ, YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON NO, VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS, YES, COMMISSIONER PLACKO, YES, AND COMMISSIONER AND GELIN KNOW THE MOTION PASSES THREE TO TWO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[12.a. Discussion and possible direction creating a Citizen's Budget Council]
A. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION CREATING CITIZEN'S BUDGET COUNCIL, THIS WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER GELIN, HE WILL LEAD THE CONVERSATION AND IT IS A PRESENTATION AND THEN HE WILL NOT BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.OK, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THIS COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH A CITIZEN'S BUDGET COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THE CITIZENS OF TAMARAC IN OUR BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS, GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM AND DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'RE TRULY TRANSPARENT.
BEFORE I BECAME BEFORE I BECAME A COMMISSIONER, I NOTICED THAT SEVERAL OTHER CITIES HAVE A CONSOLIDATED REPORT THAT THEY ISSUED TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH CHAIR CITY MANAGER.
CAN YOU REMIND ME THAT IT'S CALLED THE POPULAR FINANCIAL REPORT.
AND SO I ASKED THE CITY TO START DEVELOPING AN ANNUAL POPULAR FINANCIAL REPORT, WHICH IS A BRIEF SUMMARY OF ALL OUR FINANCES AND AN EASY TO READ FORMAT RATHER THAN THE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY PAGE DOCUMENT BUDGETARY DOCUMENT THAT IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
SO I'M SOMEONE THAT'S ALWAYS BELIEVED IN TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS WHY WHENEVER I GET A CALL FROM THE SUN-SENTINEL OR A LOCAL BLOG, I ANSWER THEIR PHONE CALLS AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS OR RESPOND TO THEIR COMMENTS IN WRITING.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN HONEST OR OR INDEPENDENT IN THEIR JOURNALISM.
AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DEMONSTRATE TRANSPARENCY IS TO HAVE A CITIZENS BUDGET COUNCIL AND REALLY BRING THE CITIZENS ALONG IN OUR BUDGETARY PROCESS SO THOSE CITIZENS CAN ACTUALLY SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR PROCESS IS LIKE AND ALSO HAVE INPUT IN THAT PROCESS.
I'VE BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTED IN STAFF'S USE OF THESE ARTICLES TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK GOOD WHEN THEY KNOW THEMSELVES THAT THAT 90 PERCENT OF WHAT'S WRITTEN HAS BEEN FALSE AND WRITTEN IN A WAY TO REALLY RUIN THE REPUTATION OF EVERYONE ON THIS COMMISSION EXCEPT FOR THE MAYOR. AND I KNOW THAT THE MAIN WRITER FOR THE SUN-SENTINEL AND MAYOR GOMEZ, THEY ATTEND THE SAME SYNAGOGUE.
THEY HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THERE.
BUT SHE'S NOT INDEPENDENT IN HER REPORTING THIS THIS I DIDN'T NOT BECOME A COMMISSIONER TO GET ARRESTED, TO STEAL MONEY OR TO DO ANYTHING, ANYTHING THAT WOULD RUIN MY REPUTATION AND MY FAMILY'S REPUTATION.
AND SO I'M REALLY DISGUSTED WITH A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN WRITTEN.
AND SO I THINK THE BEST WAY IS TO HAVE A TRUE OR TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
AND THIS IS NOT NEW. THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE HAS A VERY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT CITIZENS BUDGETARY COUNCIL.
AND I THINK THIS CITY SHOULD ALSO DO THE SAME THING AND REALLY DEMONSTRATE OUR TRANSPARENCY AND DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'RE NOT AFRAID TO SHARE OUR FINANCES WITH THE
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RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.THE ITEM WAS BROUGHT UP RECENTLY IN THE CITY CITY OF PEMBROKE PINES, AND IT DID NOT PASS IN A VOTE OF FOUR TO ONE.
BUT I THINK THIS THIS COMMISSION IS MORE COURAGEOUS AND WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE A CITIZEN'S BUDGETARY COUNCIL.
AND SO I THINK MY MOTION WILL BE THE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK TO THIS COMMISSION THE FORMATION OF A CITIZEN'S BUDGETARY COUNCIL THAT THIS COMMISSION CAN VOTE ON.
AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME.
YOU HAVE A MOTION PENDING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE HAVE DISCUSSION IF WE FOLLOW IT THE WAY WE DO WITH THE TRACK, GO ONE ROUND OF DISCUSSION FOR ITEMS AND THEN WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AS WE DID WITH THE TRUCK.
CITY MANAGER, AH, I DON'T KNOW, GOING INTO THIS, WHAT'S THE FISCAL IMPACT ON DOING A NEW BOARD THAT WILL OVERLOOK.
A DEPARTMENT THAT OVERLOOKS A BOARD TO DO THE SAME THING THAT YOUR STAFF DOES.
SO, VICE MAYOR, I HEARD YOU ASK ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A FISCAL IMPACT PERSAY TO A BUDGET COMMITTEE OR ADVISORY BOARD OTHER THAN ITS AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE STAFFED THROUGH THE BUDGET OFFICE IN THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT DRIVES? WHAT DRIVES THE THE STAFF IMPACT OR THE FISCAL IMPACT IS CERTAINLY THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT HAS TO BE SPENT WITH THAT BOARD.
AND I THINK WHAT THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO DO IS TO CONSIDER WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WISH TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS WITH THIS COMMITTEE.
WHAT WHAT IS THEIR ROLE? WHAT ARE THEIR DUTIES? WHAT ARE THEY YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY DOING? ARE THEY REVIEWING THE BUDGET? ARE THEY PARTICIPATING IN THE BUDGET PROCESS OR ARE THEY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU REGARDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE IN THE BUDGET? AND I THINK THAT THERE'S NO YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH WITH A BUDGET COMMITTEE OR BUDGET OVERSIGHT.
I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE DEFINED WHAT THEIR ROLE IS SO THAT IT'S SPECIFIC AND SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS AND SO THAT YOU CAN GET FROM THEM WHAT IT IS THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU NEED, HAVING A YOU KNOW, HAVING A CITIZENS COMMITTEE INVOLVED IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS.
COMMISSIONER, GELIN. ARE YOU ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME SORT OF DOCUMENT OF WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE CITY? FOR LAUDERDALE, WHICH I MENTIONED IN MY COMMENTS, THEY HAVE MODEL DOCUMENTATION, MODEL LEGISLATION THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
YOU CAN DO YOUR HOMEWORK, YOU CAN DO YOUR RESEARCH.
THAT'S WHY WE GET THE AGENDA SIX DAYS AHEAD OF TIME.
IT WAS SECOND. BUT YEAH, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN GET THAT WAS JUST THE ANSWER, NO QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER GUNN, THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH THAT FOR YOU.
AND YOU SHOULD DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AREA.
SO THAT MEANS A WHOLE NEW BOARD, FIVE MORE PEOPLE ON ADDITIONAL BOARD BEING STAFFED OR BEING MODERATED BY CITY STAFFS BUDGET.
WHOEVER DOES THE BUDGET IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS REALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE A FISCAL IMPACT. RIGHT, UH, MANAGER.
WELL, AGAIN, VICE, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THE ROLE IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THE CITY COMMISSION DOES AS FAR AS ESTABLISHING THE ROLE OF THE COMMITTEE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET COMMITTEES ROLE WOULD BE ON AN ONGOING BASIS, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE DOES HAVE A CITIZENS BUDGET COMMITTEE.
THERE ARE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THIS COUNTY AND IN OTHERS THAT HAVE BUDGET COMMITTEES. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, AGAIN, IT'S IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THAT COMMITTEE.
IT WOULD YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY'RE GOING TO ADVISE THE COMMISSION.
SO WHAT ARE THE WHAT IS THEIR ROLE IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT, IN TERMS OF BUDGET OVERSIGHT? IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT THEIR ROLE IS AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT THEM TO DO. CAN I MAKE A SUBSTANTIVE MOTION TO OBTAIN DOCUMENTS PRIOR TO US DECIDING ON WHAT WE
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WHAT WE WANT TO DO? AS CITY MANAGER SAID, WE HAVE A MOTION PENDING.YOU COULD DO A MOTION TO TABLE, BUT YOU CANNOT DO A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL I CAN GIVE YOU FURTHER INFORMATION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION FIRST.
THERE IS A REQUEST FOR A QUESTION BEING ASKED FIRST.
THERE'S NO SECOND METAMORA OR.
THERE'S NOT A SECOND WE MOVED ON.
REMEMBER, WHEN SOMEBODY MAKES AND I DON'T, BUT YOU HAVE TO TREAT PEOPLE THE SAME WAY DOWN. YOU HAVE TO TREAT TO TREAT PEOPLE THE SAME WAY AS YOU DO.
YOU LOVE TO JUMP IN BEFORE I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
WOULD REALLY BE NICE IF YOU'D LEARN TO HAVE A LITTLE PATIENCE.
I HAVE A LOT OF PATIENCE AND A MERE TRUSTEE OR FIVE YEARS OF DEALING WITH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TWO OF YOU.
BUT WELL, ANYWAY, BUT IT'S VERY SIMPLE, IF THE DIRECTION OF THE OF THE COMMISSION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONCEPT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MANAGER, I WILL WORK WITH HIM TO OBTAIN EXAMPLES FROM OTHER LOCATIONS AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE SIMILAR TYPE OF BODIES TO THEN PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION SO YOU ALL CAN DIGEST IT AND THEN GIVE US ADDITIONAL FURTHER DIRECTION AS TO AS THE MANAGERS INDICATED, WHAT FROM THOSE EXAMPLES YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY LIKE TO TASK THIS BOARD WITH DOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
I THINK THAT ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
AND BASICALLY WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE I WAS CUT OFF WAS THAT AT THIS TIME, YOUR MOTION TO TABLE HAS NOT IS NOT ON THE TABLE.
OK, AND SO COMMISSIONER PLACKO, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER AT THIS TIME BECAUSE YOU SAW TIME IN YOUR MINUTES.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
MICHAEL, WHEN WE HAVE OUR BUDGET MEETINGS, CAN RESIDENTS ATTEND? YES, THEY CAN. ABSOLUTELY.
SO RESIDENTS CAN ATTEND OUR BUDGET MEETINGS.
I REMEMBER ONE TIME HAVING A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS ATTEND.
SO ANY RESIDENTS WHO'S CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HAS EVERY RIGHT TO ATTEND BUDGET MEETINGS. SO.
JUST AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT ON THE TABLE, MAYBE THEY DON'T KNOW, BUT WE ARE TRANSPARENT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, CITY MANAGER.
I THINK YOUR LIGHT IS JUST LIT, CORRECT? YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN INTERJECTION.
OK, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
DO YOU RECALL WHEN WE STARTED, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED FILMING OUR CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS? AND BROADCASTING IT AT LEAST ON THE WEBSITE.
AND I DON'T EXACTLY REMEMBER COMMISSIONER BOLTON, BUT I CAN LOOK IT UP IN TWO SECONDS AND GIVE YOU AN ANSWER. OK, SO OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, THREE YEARS AGO, FIVE YEARS AGO, MAYBE SEVEN.
AT LEAST SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO OF BY FAR, OK, AND WE WE HAD A COMMISSIONER, WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO THAT WAS BROADCASTED.
DO YOU RECALL THAT MEETING? LEVENT. ONE OF THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, I DO COMMISSIONER, OK, AND THAT WAS ABOUT TWO, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO. ABOUT THAT, YES.
OK, AND LEVENT, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE RECORDED AND BROADCASTED OUR BUDGET RETREAT'S? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT INITIAL BUDGET CONVERSATIONS ARE RECORDED OR STRAIGHT.
OK, SO IF WE BROADCAST COMMISSION MEETINGS, IF WE BROADCAST HAVE AT LEAST BROADCASTED ONE COMMUNITY MEETING, WE BROADCAST WORKSHOPS, WHY DON'T YOU THINK THAT WE BROADCAST OUR.
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RETREAT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE GONE OUT AND RECORDED A COMMUNITY MEETING IN THE PAST.COMMISSIONER, I'M GOING TO LET THE CITY MANAGER TAKE THAT, BUT BUT MY PERSONAL I'M ASKING FROM THE IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A WORKING SESSION AND WE ONLY HAVE CERTAIN MEETINGS OF THE CITY COMMISSION OR PLANNING COMMISSION, BROADCAST OR STREAMED AND THE REST OF OUR WORKING SESSIONS AND ARE HANDLED INTERNALLY UNTIL IT'S READY FOR PUBLIC PUBLIC VIEWING, WHICH IS COMMISSION MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS.
SO IF IT'S IF IT'S JUST A WORKING MEETING, THE PUBLIC IS NOT INVITED TO THE MEETING.
NO, I BELIEVE EVERY TIME THE COMMISSION IS INVOLVED, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING AND IT'S ADVERTISED IN PUBLIC IS THAT LOCATION IS ADVERTISED, BUT IT'S NOT STRAIGHT FROM FROM A TECHNICAL POINT OF VIEW, WE COULD STREAM THE MEETING.
AS LONG AS THE MEETINGS ARE HELD IN THE CHAMBER OR CONFERENCE ROOM ONE ON FIVE, WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY SAY WE WE COULD ALSO STREAM THE MEETING IF IT'S AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, BECAUSE I ASKED YOU PREVIOUSLY IF WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING FILMED AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND YOU AGREED.
ABSOLUTELY, WITH SOME EXTRA EFFORT, WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, MR. MANAGER, A QUESTION FOR YOU THROUGH THE CHAIR.
DO YOU RECALL AT THE 2009 TEEN BUDGET MEETING WHERE THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER SALARY WAS PROPOSED TO BE INCREASED FROM THE LOW 30S OR HIGH 30S TO HIGH 60000 FOR AND FOR THE MAYOR, 60000 FOR THE MAYOR? COMMISSIONER, I DO RECALL THE PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE COMMISSION SALARIES.
YES, OK, AND THAT WAS IN A BUDGET RETREAT, CORRECT? IT WAS DURING THE BUDGET MEETINGS, YES.
OK, DID WE FILM OR BROADCAST THAT MEETING? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
OK, I DO AGREE WITH LEVENT THAT WE COULD HAVE THE CAPABILITY, WE COULD HAVE FILMED IT WITH A LITTLE LITTLE MORE EFFORT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY STREAM FROM OTHER LOCATIONS IF WE SET UP TO DO SO, I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT IF RESIDENTS KNEW THAT IN 2019, THIS COMMISSION RAISED ITS SALARY IN THE BUDGET MEETING AFTER THAT COMMISSIONER A GALLON OF WATER.
MAYOR. YES, VICE MAYOR COMMISSIONER BOLTON KEEPS INSINUATING THAT THIS COMMISSION WAS NOT PART OF THIS COMMISSION. OK, THIS COMMISSION, EXCEPT FOR FOR VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS, WHO OPTED IN FOR FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND LET'S KEEP IN MIND, YOU'RE CLOSE TO YOUR FIVE MINUTES BEING UP AND YOU VOTED FOR IT.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT I OPTED FOR IT.
AND AFTER THAT, MY CONSTITUENTS SCREAMED AT ME.
THE FACT IS, YOUR MONEY HUNGRY AND YOU GENTLEMEN, OK, STOP IT.
I'M NOT HUNGRY. SO THE COMMISSION SALARY IN 2019 WAS INCREASED FROM 30000 TO 60000.
IF THE RESIDENTS REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT THE MARLON COMMISSION WAS DOING THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED THAT.
ALSO, IT WAS TAMARAC TORTURE AND BURN THAT REPORTED ON THE COMMISSION SALARY OF FORTY FIVE THOUSAND, THE COMMISSION FURNITURE OF FORTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS DURING THAT TIME.
SO I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GELIN.
I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT RESIDENTS GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET AND ALSO OPINE ON THE BUDGET, GIVE US THEIR THEIR OPINION.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT OUR BUDGET RETREAT'S SHOULD BE FILMED AND BROADCAST IT TO THE RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND DARSEY SCHILLER, IF THAT'S HER NAME FROM GRANDVILLE, ASKED THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO REDUCE OUR SALARY BACK TO WHAT IT WAS IN 2019 AND TO RESCIND ALL OF THE PERKS, QUOTE UNQUOTE, AND SLUSH FUNDS.
SO AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME AT THE NEXT MEETING, I WILL DO THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
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I GUESS THIS IS MY FIVE MINUTES AS WELL, GOING A REVERSE AS FOR THE TECHNOLOGY AT THESE RETREATS. WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND CERTAIN THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER NOW AND WE'RE STARTING TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS.WE'VE GOT FIVE DAYS. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF STUFF THERE.
SO AS THINGS HAVE BEEN MOVING, WE ARE TRYING TO ADVERTISE AND STREAM.
AND THE JOKE OF IT ALL IS THAT I'M THE ONE WHO ASKED FOR HAVING OUR COMMISSIONER MEETING STREAMED AND I'M TECHNOLOGICALLY SAVVY PERSON ON ON THIS COMMISSION OR AT THE COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME EVEN.
SO BASICALLY, YES, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH STREAMING NOW.
THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH HAVING LOCATIONS WHERE WE WILL BE NOW HAVING OUR RETREATS.
I'M SORRY, BUT THE OLD COLONY WEST DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF GOOD TECHNOLOGY AND THEY'RE THE NEW COLONY WAS AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT IS, HAS TECHNOLOGY THAT WE CAN UTILIZE.
WE HAD BORROWED SOME PLACES IN THE CITY FOR THE RETREATS, BUT EVERYTHING WAS TAPED.
IF SO, IT WAS NOT THAT IT WAS TRANSPARENCE.
WE ARE IN A NEW DAY AND AGE AND PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO PAY ATTENTION, AND I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT IF WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY TO GET PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE MORE.
WHAT DOES THIS COUNCIL ACTUALLY DO? I TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS ITEM WAS PUT ON THE DISCUSSION ITEM.
THERE'S NOT A THING IN THE BACK UP AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE HUNTING AND PECKING TO FIND WHERE THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN ELSEWHERE.
SO IT'S IF WE ARE TO MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE BEEN PROVIDED PRESENTER'S.
WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING OUR COMMISSION WITH INFORMATION.
WE GET UPSET WHEN OUR STAFF DOESN'T PROVIDE US WITH INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE EDUCATED DECISIONS. IT SHOULD BE NO LESS FROM ANY OF US WHO WISH TO HAVE SOME KIND OF ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR PRESENTATION.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THIS COUNCIL WILL ACTUALLY DO.
WHO WILL BE ON IT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE QUALIFICATIONS.
DO WE NEED TO HAVE THEM HAVE SIPA BACKGROUNDS, ANY KIND OF OTHER THINGS? I THINK WE ARE TRANSPARENT.
I THINK THE PROBLEM HAS ARISEN FOR THE FACT THAT.
THE PAST FIVE MONTHS, CERTAIN PROCEDURES WERE DONE DIFFERENTLY, WHERE THIS ITEMS FOR BUDGETARY ITEMS WERE NOT DISCUSSED OUT IN THE OPEN, THEY WERE DIRECTED BY ONE, TWO OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO REHASH THAT IS JUST THE REALITY IS THAT THESE THINGS CAME ON THE AGENDA, NOT VETTED AND NOT DISCUSSED BY THIS COMMISSION.
AND THAT IS WHY IS THERE IS A AN APPEARANCE THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. BUT I THINK THAT STAFF TIME IS VERY VALUABLE.
AND IF WE ARE ALREADY AN AWARD WINNING 30 YEARS PLUS OF.
I FORGET THE NAME OF THE AWARD AS I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE ARE AN AWARD WINNING CITY, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE PALLADIUM AWARD, WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE OTHER INTERNATIONAL AWARD.
WE WOULDN'T BE RECEIVING THEM IF OUR FINANCES WERE A PROBLEM AND IF WE WERE DOING THINGS THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO NEED A COUNCIL.
IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO OUR MEETINGS, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME TO OUR MEETINGS AND SIT AND TALK WITH US.
WE'VE TOLD YOU THAT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT COME TO OUR MEETINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF HAVING ANOTHER COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE'VE JUST ADDED LIKE SEVEN COMMITTEES THIS PAST FIVE MONTHS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY MOVING THINGS FORWARD. I DO THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD COME AND PARTICIPATE, COME TO OUR MEETINGS, AND I THINK THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS DESIRE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION BROUGHT BACK SO WE CAN HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ONE WHERE WE'RE MORE EDUCATED ON IT VERSUS KNEE JERK REACTIONS, I WOULD WELCOME THAT, TOO.
COMMISSIONER GELIN, I AM NOW OPENING IT UP FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE CITY, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, NOBODY.
WE'RE ON ROUND TWO, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU WILL.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES, IT WAS 11 06 AND WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT 11, 30. THERE'S OFTEN ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THERE ARE ITEMS THAT JACK STRAIN HAS ON THERE ABOUT UTILITIES AND WATER AND PIPES, I GOOGLE STUFF.
I DON'T RELY ON JUST WHAT STAFF PROVIDES.
I DO ADDITIONAL HOMEWORK TO GET TO BECOME KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT SOMETHING AND GET ANSWERS.
SO FOR SIX DAYS, YOU COULD HAVE ASKED THE CLERK OR AS THE CITY ATTORNEY, AS A CITY MANAGER TO GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF OTHER CITY BUDGETARY BOARDS.
IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU AND THE VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS DON'T WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT AND SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BUDGET WITH THE CITIZENS.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN JUST VOTE THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE, AND I'LL BE SURE TO
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MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS.THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SOUND BITE.
GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. VICE MAYOR, JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, I WOULD BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. COMMISSIONER BOLTON THREE MINUTES.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS IT IS QUITE A SHAME TO SEE THE BEHAVIOR OF VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS SOMETIMES ON THIS DAY IS WHEN SAM WAS HERE.
HE MADE ONE THING CLEAR, AND I THINK THIS ATTORNEY IS DOING THE SAME NOW.
SAM MADE IT CLEAR THAT A COMMISSIONER HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK.
I THINK THAT IS SOMEWHERE IN STATE STATUTE OR THE COMMISSIONER THE ETHICS HAS OPINED, TELLING THE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO END DISCUSSION BEFORE A COMMISSIONER OR EVEN THE MAYOR HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON A SUBJECT I THINK IS IS NOT LEGAL.
AND I THINK AT SOME POINT THE CITY ATTORNEY SHOULD COME BUT COME TO US WITH SOME OPINION ON THAT. THIS IS NOT TO SAVE TIME.
I THINK THAT EACH COMMISSIONER HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, TO BE HEARD.
WE ARE ELECTED TO BE THE VOICE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT EACH OTHER MAY SAY, BUT AT LEAST WE SHOULD HEAR EACH OTHER OUT. NOW, AS FAR AS RESIDENTS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE MAKING COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK, HER YOU SAID THAT I CALLED THE CITY MANAGER A LIAR.
I PLEASE TELL ME THE TIMES WHERE I DID ASK YOU.
YOU'VE ASKED ME TO LET PEOPLE SPEAK, BUT I'VE LET THEM COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
I AM ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR A POINT OF ORDER HERE.
THE WE WE WE NEED TO KEEP IT ON THE TOPIC VERSUS ROLLING OFF OF IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK IN JUST FILLING IT UP, PLEASE.
CERTAINLY, I THINK THAT THE RUNNING OF THE MEETING AND AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE ITEM THAT'S BEFORE YOU AND, YOU KNOW, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. AND DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND TO EACH OF YOU THAT IT BE GERMANE TO TO THE MATTER. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY AN ISSUE OF OF OF INDIVIDUAL OPINION.
THE RULES OF PROCEDURE DO PROVIDE THAT IF IN ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER THAT IF ONE OF THE MEMBERS BELIEVES ANOTHER ONE IS OUT OF ORDER, THEY CAN MAKE THAT MOTION AND THEN THE BODY WOULD DECIDE AS A WHOLE TO DO THAT.
IT IS MY SINCERE HOPE THAT WE DON'T GET TO THAT POINT.
AND OBSERVING THE BASIC RULES OF CIVILITY, ALLOWING EACH OTHER TO SPEAK, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, SPEAKING TO THE ISSUE AT HAND, I THINK WILL ALLOW US ALL COLLECTIVELY TO GET THROUGH THE MEETINGS QUICKER AND EASIER AND RESPECT EACH OTHER'S RIGHT TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, SO COMMISSIONER BOLTON, IF YOU WILL, PLEASE KEEP IT TO THE TOPIC AT HAND, WE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MEETING, NOT FACEBOOK.
AS WE'RE SEEING, MADAM MAYOR, THAT'S THAT'S HOW I VIEW WHAT RESIDENTS ARE SAYING, THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO ME WHAT THEY SAY MATTER.
AND SO I HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO TO DO THAT.
THE THE ATTORNEY SAID EARLIER THAT ROBERT'S RULES IS ARCHAIC AND THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN SET OF RULES. BUT NOW HE'S SAYING THAT WE SHOULD FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES.
EARLIER ON IN THE MEETING, MADAM MAYOR, YOU SAID THAT WE ALLOWED COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS TO SPEAK FOR WHATEVER THEY WANT FOR THE THREE MINUTES THAT THEY HAD IT.
YOU ALLOWED VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS TO DO THAT.
AND NOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOW WE ARE DOING IT NOW.
SO I THINK THAT OUR PROCESS JUST NEEDS TO BE STREAMLINED A LITTLE BIT.
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IT IS SIMPLY POINTING OUT UNFAIRNESS AND INJUSTICE.SOMETIMES YOU ALLOW ONE MEMBER TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN YOU DON'T ALLOW ONE MEMBER TO DO SOMETHING. I ASKED HER TO COME DOWN AND HE CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO ME AT THE END OF THE MEETING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COMMISSIONER PLACKO, THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER GELIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GOOGLING, BUT I EXPECTED A POWERPOINT.
IT WAS A DISCUSSION BY YOU, SO I EXPECTED A POWERPOINT FROM YOU, SIR.
WE ALL WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
WE NOW HAVE DISCUSSED ABOUT STREAMING THE MEETINGS.
I THINK LET'S FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THIS COUNCIL WILL DO.
I MEAN, I SAID EARLIER THAT I'M OPEN TO NEW IDEAS, SO LET'S FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE EXPECT THIS COUNCIL TO DO, STREAMLINE THE MEETINGS.
WE CAN'T BE ANY MORE TRANSPARENT THAN THAT.
THAT'S MY OPINION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I SAW YOUR LIGHT WAS LIT, BUT IT'S OFF JUST CONFIRMING.
IT WAS A RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER BOLTON COMMENT.
THIS WOULD BE HIS THIRD GO AROUND VLADIMIR.
ARE YOU? I'VE GOT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I WISH I WAS TRANSFERRED TO GEORGIA, BUT I WAS ANSWERING THE MAYOR'S QUESTION THAT I ASKED THE QUESTION. YOU ANSWERED IT.
IT IS DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I DON'T NEED YOUR HELP AT THIS MOMENT.
NOT HELPING. YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU LIKE TO.
NOT ANY WHO. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE THIS OVER.
IT IS 11, 14, AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM LEFT AND WE STILL HAVE A HARD STOP AT 11, 30.
THIS IS OFF THIS IS TIED INTO CERTAIN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, AND I WILL JUST SAY THAT I WILL BE BRINGING IT UP FOR.
THE NEXT MEANING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE OUR PROCEDURES REDONE AGAIN, SO THERE IS CONSISTENCY, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE CONSISTENCY ON THOSE DAYS, ON HOW ONE PERSON GETS TO RESPOND AND ANOTHER GETS TO RESPOND WHEN PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THE RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE AND BE ABLE TO HAVE CONSISTENCY, COMMISSIONER, GELIN.
YOU CAN TRY TO DO ALL YOU WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T WANT TRANSPARENCY AND MAKE A NICE LITTLE SOUNDBITE OUT OF OUT OF IT.
I THINK THAT ANYBODY WHO'S DONE A PRESENTATION AND WE DEMAND THIS OUT OF OUR STAFF TO HAVE INFORMATION AND WE KNOW THAT I HAD ISSUE IN THE BEGINNING WHEN WE HAD A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY HERE AND THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE BACK BACKUP FOR SOME OF US TO READ.
AND IT'S NOT THAT WE WILL DO OUR HOMEWORK, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A JUMPING POINT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? OPENING IT UP TO 12 EIGHT AND HAVING OR WHAT WAS 12 AND HAVING NOTHING THERE. THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE HANDLING A COUNCIL, AND SO IT IS INCUMBENT, IN MY OPINION, FOR THOSE OF US PRESENTING SOMETHING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN NOTHING. AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY JUST SHARED WITH US, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON BANNING PLASTIC STRAWS.
AND YOU ALREADY HAVE A PRESENTATION.
SO ANY ROOM THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE READ IT IF YOU DON'T MIND.
COMMISSIONER GELIN. IF I PARAPHRASE US, YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE FOR CONSIDERATION CREATING A CITIZEN'S BUDGET COUNCIL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE? YES.
THANK YOU. I ALSO HEARD THE REQUEST TO HAVE THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US SO WE CAN HAVE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE DIRECT OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO WRITE UP SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
AND I AM TIRED OF HAVING OUR CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE THEIR TIME WASTED OR NOT BE FULLY EMPOWERED TO DO WHAT THEY MAY NEED TO DO TO WRITE GOOD LEGISLATION FOR US.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL VOTE NO ON THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THE LEGISLATION, THE PAPERWORK AND INFORMATION FIRST AND NOT BE MAKING A VOTE ON A YES JUST BECAUSE IT MIGHT SOUND BETTER AND HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS THREATENING ME TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD IN THE PRESS.
COMMISSIONER PLACKO BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
MIGHT WE TABLE IT TILL NEXT MEETING AND ALLOW ALL OF US TO GO DO OUR HOMEWORK? RATHER THAN HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY WASTE HIS TIME, IF WE CAN FIND IT OURSELVES, I WOULD BE OK WITH THAT AND BRING IT BACK THEN.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO TABLE IN THIS NEXT MEETING TO WHERE EITHER THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL BRING HIS INFORMATION OR THE CENTER CAN BRING THIS INFORMATION? THANK YOU. I NEED THE CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION.
THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE THIS MATTER UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
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NEXT MEETING. OK, SO I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THE MOTION QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.WOULD WOULD WOULD DRAFTING THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION ON A MOTION? I HAVE ACCESS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AT ANY TIME DURING THE MEETING.
IT'S A POINT OF ORDER. I'M ASKING HIM A QUESTION.
THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BE DRAFTED, ATTORNEY, WOULD THIS BE INCLUDED IN THE 50000 DOLLARS THAT YOU CHARGE THE CITY AS A FLAT FEE OR WOULD THERE BE A FISCAL IMPACT? IT WOULD BE INCLUDED.
HOWEVER, WITH THAT SAID TO ALL THE COMMISSION.
I CAN YOU KNOW, I CAN GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT FIVE DIFFERENT VERSIONS FROM FIVE DIFFERENT NATIONALITIES OF A SIMILAR ORGANIZATION OR BODY THAT THEY'VE CREATED, BUT I DON'T KNOW YET WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT YOU WHICH OF THOSE FIVE ALTERNATIVES YOU WANT ME TO.
DRAFT AND INTO TURN INTO LEGISLATION, IF I MAY RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST, IS THAT THE DIRECTION BE GIVEN TO STAFF, IF THERE'S A MAJORITY VOTE TO COMPILE THAT INFORMATION, PROVIDE EXAMPLES TO THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS TO DIGEST AND THEN GIVE DIRECTION AT A FUTURE MEETING AS TO WHAT PARTS OF EACH ONE OF THOSE OR A PARTICULAR ONE THAT YOU PREFER THAT I CAN THEN USE AS THE BASE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DRAFTING THE LEGISLATION.
SO WHAT I HEAR IS A FRIENDLY ONE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW FOR.
THIS MATTER TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH INFORMATION AT THIS TIME, VICE MAYOR, SINCE YOU ARE THE ONE WHO MADE NO, YOU MADE THE MOTION.
I DID. SORRY, COMMISSIONER PLACKO YOU MADE THE MOTION.
ARE YOU AMENABLE TO AMENDING THE MOTION TO ALLOW STAFF TIME TO COMPILE THE INFORMATION TO THEM, TO BRING IT BACK TO US, FOR US TO REVIEW AND THEN PUT ON A COMMISSIONER MEETING? THAT'S THE WAY I HEARD THE REQUEST.
I WOULD AMEND IT TO HAVE STAFF PUT IT TOGETHER RATHER THAN THE ATTORNEY TO BRING IT BACK TO US FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
THIS IS JUST INFORMATION FOR US TO REVIEW.
WE WILL BE PROVIDED THE INFORMATION AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR REVIEW.
I THINK IT REALLY SAID THE SAME THING THAT I SAID BEFORE, DIDN'T IT? OK, POINT OF ORDER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
THERE WERE MY ITEM HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THERE WAS NO VOTE ON IT.
CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE.
CITY ATTORNEY, THE IT'S LIKE THREE EMOTIONS BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, VILLALOBOS HAD A MOTION AND THEN PLACKO MOTION COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER GELIN IS IS CORRECT IF IF IF THE THE APPROPRIATE THING WOULD BE TO TAKE ACTION ON COMMISSIONER GELIN MOTION THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
I'M PRESUMING WHATEVER THAT VOTE IS, THEN GIVE ME A SECOND MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO WHATEVER YOU YOU WISH TO BRING BACK THE INFORMATION OF FUTURE MEETING POINT OF ORDER ON THAT ONE CITY ATTORNEY.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHEN THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE, THERE IS USUALLY NO DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION TO TABLE IS THEN CALLED AND THE QUESTION IS THEN ANSWERED.
AND FOR THIS MEETING, FOR SOME REASON IT BECAME A DISCUSSION VERSUS US DECIDING ON THE MOTION TO TABLE, WHICH COMMISSIONER PLACKO PROVIDED.
AND IT WAS SECONDED BY VICE MAYOR VILLALOBOS SAYING THAT THEY WANTED TO TABLE THIS MATTER. AND SO NEXT MEETING WHERE WE WOULD RECEIVE INFORMATION FOR US TO DISCUSS AGAIN, EITHER WAY, YOU GET TO THE SAME PLACE.
EXACTLY. SO ON THE PROCEDURAL BASIS, THEN, WE NEED TO TAKE THE MOTION IN THE VOTE ON THE MOTION TO TABLE FIRST AMENDMENT OR POINT OF ORDER, A MOTION TO TABLE THE MAIN MOTION.
YOU CANNOT HAVE TWO MAIN MOTIONS.
A SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS VOTED ON.
FIRST, THE VICE MAYOR OR COMMISSIONER PLACKO DID NOT MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
THE MOTION TO TABLE IS A MOTION.
YOU CANNOT HAVE TWO MAIN MOTIONS AT THE SAME TIME.
THE MAIN MOTION ON THE ON THE DESK RIGHT NOW IS THE MOTION TO TABLE THAT WAS REQUESTED BY BY COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
AND SECONDED BY THE VICE MAYOR, YOU ASKED A QUESTION, WE LET YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION, THE DISCUSSION IS NOW ENDED.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS MATTER UNTIL NEXT MONTH,
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NEXT MEETING WHERE WE WILL RECEIVE INFORMATION FOR US TO THEN REVIEW.MAYOR GOMEZ, YES, VICE MAYOR BILL OF US, YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, NO COMMISSIONER GELIN, NO COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
YES, THE MOTION PASSES THREE TO TWO.
ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, IT IS 11, 23.
AS WE KNOW, WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT 11, 30 TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND UNTIL WE FINISH THE MEETING. SECOND.
COMMISSIONER PLACKO, YES, COMMISSIONER GELIN, YES, MAY BE THE.
YES, AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YES, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, FIVE TO ZERO.
CITY ATTORNEY, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION AT THIS POINT SUGGESTING IF THERE'S A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO COMPILE THE INFORMATION, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO SO, ASSUMING THAT THERE'S A DESIRE FOR US TO DO THAT, SAYING THAT THIS WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM. THERE IS A IS THERE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO COMPILE THE NECESSARY ITEMS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THE SAME AND BE PRESENTED TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE WILL THEN REVIEW AT THE NEXT MEETING? POTENTIALLY, I'M GOING TO BE VOTED ON THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, TO PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR US TO REVIEW FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
IS IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING OR AT THE NEXT MEETING? FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
THIS IS ON THE DISCUSSION FOR RUNNING STRONGS NO, THIS IS NOT IT'S NOT, WE ARE NOT.
BUT THIS IS THIS OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS ADVISING US WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE LAST MOTION, AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING SO THE CITY STAFF CAN HAVE APPROPRIATE DIRECTION FROM US.
AND SO THEREFORE, IT WAS A MOTION FOR CITY STAFF TO PROVIDE US.
AT THE NEXT MEETING REGARDING THIS TOPIC.
YOU HAVE EMOTIONS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A TABLE TO THAT AND THEN WE'RE IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS WITH OUR DANCING PEOPLE. QUESTION. QUESTION.
MADAM MAYOR, IF THE CITY ATTORNEY CHARGES FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IS A FLAT FEE, WHY ARE WE NOT GIVING HIM THE DUTY TO DRAFT THE LEGISLATION WITH STAFF? COMMISSIONER, BOLTON? I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED.
IF THERE'S NO FISCAL IMPACT, THERE IS FISCAL IMPACT, BECAUSE IF HE IS SPENDING FIVE HOURS ON DEALING WITH THIS PROJECT THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHICH ITEMS WE WOULD WANT TO PUT IN IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN, IT MEANS THAT'S FIVE HOURS.
HE CAN'T CONTRIBUTE TO DOING OR WORK ON SOME OTHER MATTER FOR OUR CITY.
THAT MIGHT BE TIME SENSITIVE, BUT THERE'S NO SOCIAL IMPACT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS ONE SET FEE FOR EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES.
SO WHETHER HE SPENDS 20 HOURS DEALING WITH THIS AND ONE HUNDRED HOURS DEALING WITH SOMETHING ELSE, HE HAS OTHER LAW PARTNERS THAT CAN THAT THAT CAN WORK ON THIS AND OTHER THINGS. AND THE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED WAS THAT HE IS NOT CERTAIN TO US WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN IT BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE INFORMATION TO BASE IT ON.
THAT'S WHY I SAID DRAFTED WITH STAFF.
BUT STAFF DOESN'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT EITHER, BECAUSE HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT WHEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN IF THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE ADVISING STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING.
NO, WE'RE NOT ADVISING STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING.
WE'RE ADVISING THEM TO COME BACK WITH VARIOUS OTHER POLICIES THAT OTHER PLACES HAVE, BECAUSE ACCORDING TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD, FORT LAUDERDALE HAS A PAUL HAS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ONE OF THESE. SOMEBODY ELSE IS ONE OF THE SECURITY CAN DO THAT.
SO THAT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK TO US.
SO WE CAN THEN REVIEW AND MAKE DECISIONS FROM THERE, WHICH PIECES WE WOULD WANT IF WE SHOULD WANT THIS STUFF INTO MOTION TO HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY WITH CITY STAFF TO COME BACK TO US WITH INFORMATION TO REVIEW BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN START A DISCUSSION ON A SECOND.
IT'S THE SAME. OH, GOODNESS GRACIOUS.
OK, IT'S NOT THE SAME THING WE WE JUST INCLUDED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO OK TO BE AN OVERSIGHT FOR STAFF.
THAT'S WHAT HE WAS HIRED TO DO TO DO LEGAL WORK.
OK, CITY CLERK, I'VE ASKED YOU TO CALL THE ROLL, SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR US TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT. SHE WILL GET THERE AS SOON AS SHE GETS TO FINISH WRITING THE
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REVISIONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR GOMEZ.YES, COMMISSIONER PLACKO, YES, COMMISSIONER GELIN.
YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YES.
YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TO ZERO.
THANK YOU. I CAN'T TELL IF THOSE ARE NEW HANDS OR OLD HANDS.
NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO 12 SEE DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON BANNING OF PLASTIC STRAWS.
[12.c. Discussion and direction on banning plastic straws]
THIS HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER GELIN, WHO WILL LEAD THE DISCUSSION.COMMISSIONER GELIN, SO OUR TEAM DIRECTOR, CAN YOU QUEUE UP MY POWERPOINT? SO I BROUGHT THIS ITEM UP LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE, AND THIS COMMISSION WAS THE SAME, LARGELY EXCEPT FOR THE VICE MAYOR, AND SO I'M BRINGING IT BACK TO SEE IF THIS COMMISSION MAYBE HAS A CHANGE OF HEART AS IT RELATES TO THE BANNING OF PLASTIC STRAWS, WHICH ARE NOT RECYCLABLE AND WHICH USUALLY ENDS UP IN THE OCEAN.
AND IT'S A HAZARD AND THE HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO I'LL JUST WAIT FOR LEVENT TO.
I THINK SO. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO PLASTIC STRAW IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M PUSHING FOR THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A ONE USE PRODUCT, IT'S IT'S VERY WASTEFUL.
SO IT POLLUTES AS IT PRODUCES AND POLLUTES AGAIN.
IT'S THROWN AWAY AND CAN END UP CLOGGING WATERWAYS AND CHOKING ANIMALS.
AND THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE ARTICLE THAT THE SUN-SENTINEL HAD TAKEN FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES. NEXT LINE.
AND THIS IS JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, MAY 19TH, THEY PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE WHO MAKES THE PLASTICS 20 LARGE COMPANIES, INCLUDING EXXONMOBIL, DOW COMPANIES IN CHINA AND CHINA AND BANGKOK. SINGLE-USE PLASTICS IS GOOD BUSINESS, WHICH IS WHY IT CONTINUES TO BE USED, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND YET AND STILL, THE PRODUCTION IS GOING TO INCREASE BY 30 PERCENT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. NEXT SLIDE.
SO THESE ARE THE INVESTORS VANGUARD, WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF THE MUTUAL FUNDS THAT IS IN TAMRON RETIREMENT PORTFOLIO, BLACKROCK, BARCLAYS, J.P.
MORGAN CHASE, ALL HUGE FIRMS AND THEN OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AROUND THE WORLD ARE NOT LIKE AMERICA, WHERE THEY ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMIC SYSTEM.
AND SO CHINA AND SAUDI ARABIA ARE ALSO BIG INVESTORS.
NEXT LINE. SO ALL OF US USE IT.
THE AVERAGE AMERICAN USES ONE HUNDRED AND TEN POUNDS PER YEAR.
CHINESE PEOPLE USE ONE THIRD OF THE AMOUNT WE USE, AND THE AVERAGE INDIAN USES LESS THAN ONE 12. SO WE CAN IMPROVE NEXT.
SO EVEN EXXONMOBIL AS A PRODUCER, THEY AGREE THAT THEY SHARE IN SOCIETY'S CONCERN ABOUT PLASTIC WASTE AND THEY AGREE THAT IT MUST BE ADDRESSED.
SO WHO MUST ADDRESS IT? WE MUST ADDRESS AND WHERE THE POLICYMAKERS.
SO WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING IT.
AND BUSINESS ADAPTS TO POLICIES NEXT.
SO WHAT'S BEING DONE, WE WE PROMOTE RECYCLING ALL THE TIME, BUT ONLY EIGHT PERCENT OF PLASTICS ACTUALLY GET RECYCLED AND STATE AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS IN BANNING CERTAIN ITEMS LIKE STRAWS AND PLASTIC BAGS.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU TRAVEL TO D.C., CHICAGO, PLASTIC BAGS ARE LARGELY BANNED.
IF YOU WANT TO USE PLASTIC BAGS, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FIVE CENTS OR TEN CENTS MORE.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE ECONOMICS FAVOR MORE PLASTIC PRODUCTION BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER TO MAKE A BRAND NEW SODA BOTTLE THAN IT IS TO MAKE A SODA BOTTLE OUT OF RECYCLED PLASTIC.
NEXT. SO, AGAIN, THE PROBLEM, OVER ONE MILLION MARINE ANIMALS ARE KILLED BECAUSE OF PLASTIC DEBRIS IN THE OCEAN, NEXT.
TWENTY SEVEN CITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAVE BANNED THE USE OF PLASTIC STRAWS,
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INCLUDING 15 IN SOUTH FLORIDA.SO WE WOULD NOT BE NEW AT DOING THIS NEXT.
AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE HEADLINES OF THE CITIES WHO HAVE BANNED PLASTIC STRAWS AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE TAMARAC HEADLINE IS IT WAS SCRAPPED THE LAST TIME THAT I BROUGHT IT UP WHEN OTHER CITIES WERE BANNING PLASTIC STRAWS.
NEXT. DELRAY BEACH, THEY IMMEDIATELY BANNED PLASTIC STRAWS BACK IN 2019.
NEXT. FOR OF MAYOR TOOK A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THE BANNING OF PLASTIC STRAWS BECAUSE IT RUINS THE ECONOMY, NOT JUST OF FALLUJAH, BUT ALL OF US, BECAUSE EVERYONE THAT TRAVELS TO FLORIDA, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO THE BEACH.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE A STRATEGY OF STAYING AT A CHEAPER HOTEL IN A CITY LIKE TAMARAC OR SODOMIZING PLANTATION AND DRIVE TO THE BEACH RATHER THAN STAYING AT A HOTEL ON THE BEACH.
BUT THE CAMPAIGN TO END SINGLE USE PLASTICS HAVE BEEN CHAMPIONED BY, YOU KNOW, REAL LEADERS THAT ARE RESPECTED, LIKE THE FORT LAUDERDALE MAYOR, NEXT.
AND THIS IS JUST A VIDEO, IT'S TOO LONG TO PLAY HERE THAT SHOWS SOME STUDENTS ON THE BEACH PICKING UP LOADS OF TRAFFIC OR I'M SORRY, OR TRASH ALL OVER THE BEACH, MOST OF IT PLASTIC NEXT.
AND I'VE ASKED LEVENT TO PLAY THIS, WHICH IS A SHORT VIDEO OF A PLASTIC STRAW BEING REMOVED FROM THE NOSE OF A TURTLE OR SNOUT, I WOULD SAY PLEASE PLAY THE CLIP OF A.
SURE. AND THERE'S ANYTHING GRAPHIC I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING. YOU HAVE TO PUT ANYTHING.
OK. LEVENT, YOU HAVE THE VIDEO UP.
GIVE ME ONE SECOND. OVER THE SHOULDER.
IN THE MEANTIME, CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? SO A SPERM WHALE WASHED UP ON SHORE DEAD IN INDONESIA, AND THEY FOUND INSIDE THE WHALE 115 DRINKING CUPS, 25 PLASTIC BAGS, PLASTIC BOTTLES TO FLIP FLOPS AND A BAG CONTAINING MORE THAN A THOUSAND PIECES OF STRING.
IN TOTAL, THERE WERE THIRTEEN POINT TWO POUNDS OF TRASH FOUND INSIDE THE WHALE.
SO BEFORE WE GET TO THIS ACTION ITEM, LET'S WATCH BOTH VIDEOS, SO ONE IS 34 SECONDS, THE OTHER ONE IS JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
LEVENT, UNTIL I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU TO HAVE IT READY.
I HAD THEM READY UNTIL TWO MINUTES AGO.
SITTING THERE TIME AND RUINING THEIR TEETH WITH ORDINARY.
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LET'S DO ONE OF THE SPORTS, THE STEROIDS.WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE, PUT THEM INTO THE IF THEY WERE JUST GOING TO TRY TO CLEAN IT? YOU'VE BEEN A.
SO THAT VIDEO HAS ABOUT 80 MILLION VIEWS AND I THINK TWO MILLION COMMENTS, AND IF YOU'LL JUST PLAY THE OTHER VIDEO, LEVENT, THAT ONE'S A LOT SHORTER AND A LOT LESS GRAPHIC.
COMMISSIONER GUNN, WHICH RADIO THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC, IT'S THE LINK IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT SLIDE WITH A SHARK.
THERE'S NO VIDEO, IT'S MOSTLY TEXT.
AND SO IF YOU EAT IN A CITY OF POMPANO, FORT LAUDERDALE, HOLLYWOOD, THEY DON'T SERVE PLASTIC STRAWS, THEY SERVE SERVE PAPER STRAWS AND PAPER IS, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY MADE OUT OF WOOD. IT'S BIODEGRADABLE.
IT'S LESS HARMFUL TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND IN ONE OF THE SLIDES EARLIER, I SHOWED THAT THE GREATER FORT LAUDERDALE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ALSO SUPPORTED AND ENDORSED THE BAN ON.
THAT'S THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE PLASTIC, UNFORTUNATELY, THE STATE OF FLORIDA DOES NOT ALLOW US TO BAN PLASTIC BAGS OR STYROFOAM.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO BAN AS A CITY OR PLASTIC STRAWS.
SO SINCE THAT'S THE LIMITED POWER THAT WE HAVE, THEN THEN I'M ASKING US TO FOLLOW WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE AND WHAT'S CLEARLY NECESSARY.
IF YOU JUST GOOGLE CONTENTS FOUND IN FISH, YOU'LL FIND ALL KINDS OF PLASTIC CONTENTS FOUND IN FISH IN THE OCEAN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EAT.
FISH IS SUPPOSED TO BE HEALTHY, BUT A LOT OF EXPERTS ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT BE EATING SO MUCH FISH BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GARBAGE THAT THEY'RE EATING DUE TO THE PLASTIC POLLUTION THAT'S GOING ON.
SO ONCE AGAIN, HOPING THAT THIS COMMISSIONER WILL BE DIFFERENT AND VOTE TO APPROVE THE DRAFTING OF AN ORDINANCE TO BAN THE USE OF PLASTIC STRAWS IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC.
HOPEFULLY OTHER CITIES WILL FOLLOW SUIT AND LONG TERM THEY'LL BE A FULL ELIMINATION.
THERE'S ANOTHER VIDEO THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT I WATCHED WHERE THERE'S A BUSINESS IN FORT LAUDERDALE THAT HAS SIX OR SEVEN RESTAURANTS.
AND BETWEEN THOSE SIX OR SEVEN RESTAURANTS IN ONE YEAR, THEY HAD THEY HAD SERVED ONE POINT TWO MILLION STRAWS IN ONE YEAR, JUST ONE RESTAURANT IN THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE.
SO IT'S MULTIPLY THAT BY THE NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAVE ALL OVER THE STATE AND JUST THE COUNTY. AND YOU CAN SEE WHY WITH WITH STRAWS NOT BEING RECYCLABLE, IT ENDS UP IN THE OCEAN AND ALL OF THE PLACES.
SO I JUST THINK IT'S A SENSIBLE THING TO DO.
AND I'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF IMPACT.
BUT LONG TERM, IF OTHER CITIES FOLLOW SUIT, IT'LL HAVE A LONGER TERM IMPACT AND BENEFIT GENERATIONS THAT COME AFTER US.
THAT. I AM NOT SAYING ANYBODY WHO'S WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.
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IS COMMISSIONER GELIN MAKING A MOTION THAT THE MOTION WAS ON THE POWERPOINT FUEL, PULLED IT UP? I BELIEVE I REMEMBER A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFTING OF AN ORDINANCE TO BAN THE USE OF PLASTIC STRAWS IN THE CITY OF TAMIRA.WE'LL DO FIVE MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION FROM.
THE COMMISSIONER, EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER GELIN SORRY, YOU YOU DEFINITELY HAD YOUR TIME SAYING WHAT YOU LIKE AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON. THE THE LAST TIME COMMISSIONER GELIN BROUGHT THIS UP, I DON'T REMEMBER. HOW THE VOTES WENT, THE RECALL.
I THINK IT WAS THREE, TWO, OR I THINK IT WAS IT WAS EITHER THREE, TWO WITH YOU AND I IN FAVOR OR IT WAS JUST TABLED AND NEVER BROUGHT UP AGAIN.
BUT THE SUPPORT ON THE COMMISSIONER WAS NOT THERE.
IT WAS A CONSENSUS ITEM ON A WORKSHOP, AND IT WAS THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS THREE-TIER, WE CAN WE CAN ASK THE CITY CLERK TO RESEARCH, IS IT REALLY IMPORTANT AND SENT TO US VIA EMAIL? YEAH, THAT I DON'T THINK I'VE I.
I VOTED FOR IT THE FIRST TIME.
I RECALL THAT, BUT I DON'T RECALL WHY I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR DID NOT VOTE FOR IT AS WELL, BECAUSE SHE SAID THAT WE'RE NOT A COASTAL CITY.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO SAY MARLON COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. LIKE FORT LAUDERDALE IS.
THERE'S A BUSINESS OWNER THAT THAT SAID.
THAT HE DOES NOT LIKE THE IDEA.
WE COULD HAVE AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR IT.
SO COMMISSIONER GELIN HOW? DO YOU THINK THAT.
BANNING STRAWS IN TAMARAC WILL.
YES. SO OVER TIME, IT WILL IMPROVE OVER TIME, IF THERE'S LESS PLASTIC STRAWS AND USE IT IN PRODUCTION, THEN THERE'LL BE FEWER GOING INTO THE OCEAN AND ENDING UP IN THE MOUTH AND NOSE AS THE SNOUT OF ABOVE MARINE LIFE.
AND SO. WE HAVE 27 CITIES THAT HAVE DONE IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE AND THAT'S AN OLD THINKING, IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN THAT TODAY.
BUT IF WE DO IT, THEN THAT MIGHT INCENTIVIZE OTHER CITIES TO FOLLOW SUIT.
WE CAN WE CAN SPREAD THE WORD AND THEN EVENTUALLY, AT SOME POINT, THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION OF PLASTIC PRODUCTION OF STRAWS.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN YOU CAN BUY STAINLESS STEEL STRAWS.
A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THAT I GO TO WHEN I GO DOWNTOWN, EITHER MIAMI OR FORT LAUDERDALE OR POMPANO, I NOTICED THAT THEY ALWAYS SERVE PAPER STRAWS AND PAPER IS BIODEGRADABLE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT THE PLASTIC STRAWS HAVE, WHICH TAKE HUNDREDS OF YEARS TO DEGRADE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, I HAVE VICE MAYOR, ALL OF US.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY DISLIKE PAPER PAPER STRAWS, BUT AFTER WATCHING THAT.
I DON'T EVEN THINK WE EVEN HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT ON RESTAURANTS THAT THEY I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING POINT ZERO ZERO OF A CENT, MAYBE TWO CENTS.
BUT AFTER WATCHING THAT, I THINK WE DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR WILDLIFE AND FOR THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THAT THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PLACKO COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN, SO IS YOUR LIFE. YOUR LIFE IS BACK ON.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
THANK YOU. I DID NOTICE BEING AT COLONIE WEST THE OTHER NIGHT THAT THERE WERE PAPER STARS AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I DON'T LIKE THEM, BUT I WOULD RATHER DISLIKE THE STRAW THAN EVER HAVE TO SEE AN ANIMAL HURT LIKE THAT EVER AGAIN.
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THAT WAS HIDEOUS.MY HEART BLEEDS JUST AS MUCH FOR THAT TURTLE, AND I'M GLAD HE WAS SAVED, I MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT I AM ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND VERY MUCH SUPPORT OF OUR WILDLIFE.
THAT IS THE SHADE OVER THE TOPIC.
IN A YES, NON COASTAL CITY AND CITY MANAGER, I BELIEVE I ASKED YOU, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGE IN OUR CITY GARBAGE AND COLLECTION AND CONCERN ABOUT THERE BEING STRAWS LEFT ABOUT AND GETTING INTO OUR WATERWAYS? AND SO WHEN OUR CREWS ARE OUT THERE, THE PUBLIC SERVICES ARE OUT THERE, THEY'RE HAVING A LOT TO DO AND CLEAN UP WITH SOME OF THESE STRAWS.
I'M SORRY, METAMORA, WAS THAT A WAS THAT A QUESTION? I MEAN, ARE WE HAVE WE HAD ANY ADDITIONAL WE'RE PICKING UP STRAWS.
YEAH, I MEAN, THE LAST THING WE DID I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHY WE PICK UP A LOT OF TRASH.
I CAN'T SAY WHETHER STRAWS OR ONE OF THEM OR CANS OR WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH SINGLE USE PLASTIC.
NO DOUBT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL SINGLE USE PLASTIC, AND THE PROBLEM TRULY IS MORE TO PLASTIC BOTTLES, PLASTIC CAPS, PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR CIGARETS OUT ON THE STREET AND HAVING THAT GO INTO OUR WATERWAYS AND CANALS MORE THAN IT IS IN TAMARAC FOR SINGLE USE STRAWS.
AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, IT IS MY OPINION THAT WE NEED TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE.
WE AS INDIVIDUALS NEED TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR BUSINESSES.
WE CAN ENCOURAGE AND THERE WERE CERNECH JUST BROUGHT OUT TWO YEARS AGO, ENCOURAGE THEM TO NOT OFFER THE STRAW.
AND IF PEOPLE ASK FOR IT, GIVE IT TO THEM.
THERE IS A DIFFERENT PRICE POINT.
IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS POINT ZERO ZERO ZERO TWO.
IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE AS COMMISSIONER PLACKO SHARED.
WE ARE AS A CITY, AS A BUSINESS.
XOLANI W WE AS A BUSINESS ARE BEING SMART AND DOING WHAT WE CAN AS A BUSINESS FOR THE CITY, BUT AS ALSO THE CITY.
WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO OUR BUSINESSES.
NO LONGER HAS FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY STRAWS FOR A DOLLAR.
AND THEY HAVE MADE A BUSINESS DECISION I THINK TO ASK, AND I ASKED IF THE NUMBERS HAD CHANGED AND THEY HAD NOT REALLY CHANGED MUCH AT THE TIME.
WE HAD TWENTY ONE SEVENTY FOUR ACTIVE BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY AND ONE THOUSAND NINETY SEVEN COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION.
WE'VE HAD MORE RESTAURANTS COME IN, WE'VE HAD SOME MORE GROCERS COME IN, WE'VE HAD OTHERS THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED.
AND SO IN MY OPINION, I THINK THIS IS JUST A FEEL GOOD THING TO SAY.
LOOK AT WHAT WE DID VERSUS IS IT REALLY, TRULY GOING TO AMOUNT TO SOMETHING AS ACTUALLY MAKING A DENT IN A BENEFIT IN IT? AND QUITE HONESTLY, TO SAY EVERYBODY, OH, LOOK AT BUT LOOK AT WHAT WE DID.
I THINK EVERYONE WILL SAY TEN MARKS ON THE NEWSPAPER AGAIN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
I THINK THAT IT IS MORE INCUMBENT UPON US TO HAVE A SMART CAMPAIGN AND REACH OUT TO OUR BUSINESSES AND ASK THEM IF THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES AND VERSUS PUTTING AN IMPOSITION, ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME WHEN BUSINESSES ARE HURTING SO BADLY, TO THEN HAVE TO HAVE THEM GO THROUGH ALL OF THEIR INVENTORY FOR THIS WHEN WE DO NOT SEEM TO HAVE AN ISSUE.
AND AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
THAT IS MY OPINION ON THE MATTER.
COMMISSIONER GELIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEBATE ME.
IT'S NOT A DEBATE. IT'S BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
NO ONE NO. TWO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE IT, WHETHER IT'S FORT LAUDERDALE OR DELRAY BEACH. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN VERIFY THIS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS LIKE A SIX MONTH TIME FRAME.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK FOR A LOT OF PAST TO ONE JULY AND THE FOLLOWING JULY, IT WENT INTO EFFECT WHEN DELRAY BEACH PASSED IT.
IT WAS PASSED IN FEBRUARY OF TWENTY NINETEEN AND IT WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY OF TWENTY TWENTY. SO THERE'S ALWAYS A TIME TIME FRAME TO GIVE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SWITCH FROM PLASTIC STRAWS TO PAPER STRAWS OR SOME OTHER THING.
I KNOW STARBUCKS OFFERING STRAWS AT ALL GOING FORWARD.
SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER AT ONE POINT IT WAS NOT MANDATORY TO WEAR A SEATBELT.
WE RELIED ON PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THEN IT BECAME LAW.
AND THEN FURTHER UPON THAT, NOW FOR A LOT OF CARS, SEATBELTS AUTOMATICALLY COME ON.
SO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY WILL ONLY GO SO FAR.
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AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS LAWMAKERS TO SET THE GUIDELINE AND MAKE SURE BUSINESSES FOLLOW THOSE THOSE GUIDELINES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT.AS A BUSINESS OWNER, YOU DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE BUSINESS, NOT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, NOT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S POLICY MAKERS.
WE HAVE TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
THERE YOU COMMISSIONER PLACKO.
I'M SORRY, DID YOU CALL ME OK? I THINK WE'RE SETTING THE EXAMPLE BY HAVING THE PAPER STRAWS AT COLONY WEST.
SO I THINK IF WE'RE DOING THAT, WE ARE NOT WE'RE NOT BEING HYPOCRITES.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD ENCOURAGE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE OUR LOCAL RESTAURANTS, GIVE THEM A TIME FRAME TO EASE INTO THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THESE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
BUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT.
COMMISSIONER BOLTON, CITY ATTORNEY FOR RICHARD, DO YOU REPRESENT ANY COASTAL CITIES? YES, SIR, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS REGULATION BECAUSE ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S LISTED IS THE TOWN OF FORT MYERS BEACH, FOR WHICH I AM THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
OK, AND WHERE DOES THE TOWN OF FORT MYERS BEACH HAUL THEIR TRASH? THEY HAUL INLAND TO THE COUNTY'S DISPOSAL FACILITY, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THERE, A COASTAL COMMUNITY. SO IT GETS TRANSPORTED OFF THE ISLAND AND IS DISPOSED OF AT THE COUNTY'S LANDFILL AND IN THE MIDDLE OF.
LEE COUNTY, OK, HOW DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT THE CITY OF FORT MYERS STRAWN'S GET INTO THE OCEAN TO THEN HARM ANIMALS? WELL, THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE THE THE PAPER.
THEY'VE HAD IT IN PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
SO AS THE COMMISSIONER GELIN POINTED OUT, THEY ARE BIODEGRADABLE.
SO IF THEY DO GET INTO THE INTO THE OCEAN STREAM, THEY BREAK DOWN AND THE IMPACT UPON THE MARINE WILDLIFE IS SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED BECAUSE OF THAT.
THE BIODEGRADABILITY? SO IN THE PAST, HOW DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT THEY'RE STRAWS GOT INTO THE OCEAN TO AFFECT, IN MOST INSTANCES PEOPLE NOT, YOU KNOW, THROWING THEM ON THE BEACH OR ON THE STREETS AND WIND WAVES AND OTHER MEANS GET PUT INTO THE INTO THE OCEAN OR INTO THE BAY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, YES, THEY EVENTUALLY DO GET INTO THE HABIT, INTO THE HABITAT OF THE ANIMALS AND THE ANIMALS THEN.
CONSUME THEM DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.
OK, SINCE YOU PASSED THE LEGISLATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IS THERE ANY DATA THAT SHOWS THAT WILDLIFE IS SOMEWHAT PROTECTED SINCE YOU DID THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT DIRECTLY, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN CHECK THE DATA THROUGH A VARIETY OF ORGANIZATIONS.
THERE IS A ON THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA, THERE'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT IS PRIMARILY THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, SUPERVISORS AND ENFORCES AND HELPS THE VARIOUS AGENCIES ENFORCE THE TURTLE LIGHTING THINGS.
AND SO THEY KEEP THAT DATA SO WE CAN LOCATE IT FOR YOU AS BEST WE CAN AND PROVIDE THAT TO YOU IF YOU WISH. OK.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU WOULD GENTLEMEN, PLEASE TURN YOUR MICROPHONES OFF.
YOU ARE GUNN, COMMISSIONER, GELIN, YOU'VE ALREADY HAD YOUR CHANCE TO SPEAK AND YOU PRESENT PRESENTED.
SO IF THERE'S NOTHING NEW TO ADD, ONE NEW ITEM VERY BRIEF, THE CITY, CORAL GABLES, WHICH IS INLAND, HAS ALSO BANNED PLASTIC STRAWS.
THEY'RE NOT ON THE BEACH, BUT THEY ALSO BLASTED.
CITY CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ BACK THE MEMO, THE THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER GELIN.
MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DROPPED AN ORDINANCE BANNING PLASTIC STRAWS IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
VICE MAYOR. ARE WE ADDING THE YEAR? THE TIME FRAME. PARDON ME.
IS THAT A QUESTION TO ME? YES, YEAH, I THINK WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY DROPS THE ORDINANCE,
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IF THE COMMISSION DECIDES TO PASS IT, WE CAN STIPULATE THAT THIS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.SO IT'S OUR JOB TO PASS THE ORDINANCE AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED EFFECTIVE ONE ONE, 20, 22 OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE PASSAGE.
BUT I WOULD RELY ON THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND EVIDENCE OF WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE AND THEN WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT.
BUT BUT THE THING IS, ONCE THE MANUFACTURERS OF PLASTIC STRAWS ARE STARTING TO SEE THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT ORDERING IT, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO START STOCKPILING.
PLEASE, I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
NO, YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE ADDING ON.
I'M AN ATTORNEY. SO NOT TO INTERRUPT.
YOU ALSO SAID YOU NEED TO STICK ONTO THE TOPIC.
THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED OF YOU, WERE YOU ADDING THE DATE? THE ANSWER WAS WE COULD DO THAT LATER.
SO THE ANSWER HAS BEEN IN QUESTION, HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED WITHOUT ANYTHING FURTHER.
VICE MAYOR, ARE YOU DON'T YOU NEED IT? VERY WELL, THANK YOU.
CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
COMMISSIONER GELIN, YES, ISMIR VILLALOBOS, YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON.
YES, COMMISSIONER PLACKO, YES, MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ONE.
EXCELLENT. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS MIDNIGHT.
GET HOME SAFELY IF YOU ARE HERE, PLEASANT DREAMS. IF YOU'RE ALREADY HOME, WE WILL SEE YOU IN.
ALEX, THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.