IN JANUARY, 28 VIRTUAL MEETING, A REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING, CITY [00:00:18] CLERK WOULD PLEASE CALL WOLF. YES, GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR. COMMISSIONER BOLDEN. AND. YES. MR. GARLAND. COMMISSIONER PLECO, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. VICE MAYOR VILLARAIGOSA, GOOD MORNING AND MAYOR GOMEZ. GOOD MORNING. AND BEFORE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE COMMISSIONER FLOCCO. LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, BUT AFTERWARDS I'D LIKE US ALL TO TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. TODAY IS NATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, THE SIX MILLION JEWS THAT HAVE PERISHED AND THEIR ALLIES WHO PERISHED AS WELL. AND IF WE CAN TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER, WE ARE HERE ABOUT LOVE, PEACE, HAPPINESS AND UNDERSTANDING ONE ANOTHER AND ACCEPTING EVERYBODY FOR WHO THEY ARE. SO AT THIS TIME, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THE SAME TIME, WOULD YOU PLEASE ALLOW ME TO MAKE NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER [1. PROCEDURES FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS] GARLAND HAS ARRIVED AT THE MEETING IN TERMS OF MAHTANI, WILL YOU PLEASE PROVIDE A BRIEF BACKGROUND AND GUIDELINES FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS? THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. GOOD MORNING. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION CITY RECENTLY ADOPTED EMERGENCY ORDERS, WHICH PERMITS THE CITY TO COMMISSION A WHOLE VIRTUAL COMMISSION MEETS. UNDER THE GUIDELINES ADOPTED, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO NOTICE ALL VIRTUAL MEANS AND CAUSE OF THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN CITY CODE. STATE LAW CENTER HAS POSTED ALL REQUIRED NOTICE A TEST REQUIREMENT FOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS. A PHYSICAL CALL IS NOT REQUIRED, HOWEVER. THE PROTOCOL IS REQUIRED BY LAW. THE CITY CLERK HAS CONFIRMED PROTOCOL FOR TONIGHT'S MEET TODAY. THIS MORNING IS CONFIRMED. ADDITIONALLY SORT OF GUIDELINES, ALL OF THE JENISE BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MUST BE BY LOCAL CITY ISD MUST ENSURE THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, CITY MANAGER, HIS STAFF AND THE PUBLIC HAVE ACCESS TO THIS VENTUREBEAT. THIS MORNING, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHES TO COMMENT ON THE NAMES, AND I PROVIDE THE PUBLIC A LITTLE BIT. THE PUBLIC MAY PROVIDE COMMENTS BY TELEPHONE, BY EMAIL AT CITY HALL, BY FACEBOOK. CITY OF TAMIRA PACIFICORP WILL FACILITATE THE COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC. ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE SUBJECT TO THE TIME LIMITATION AND THE SELECT RULES AND PROCEDURES. MOREOVER, LOCAL COUNCILS WILL BECOME PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD IF PUBLIC ACCESS TO PUBLIC COUNCIL ARE PROHIBITED BY TECHNICAL PROBLEMS. THE CITY COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO RECESS TO MEET ON A TECHNICAL PROBLEM UNTIL THE TECHNICAL PROBLEMS ARE CORRECTED. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PROCLAMATION'S AND WHAT WE [2.a. Proclamation - Black History Month] HAVE DONE TRADITIONALLY AND SOMETHING WE WILL DISCUSS LATER IN OUR. AGENDA, WHICH IS. WHEN WE READ WHEN THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO ACCEPT A PROCLAMATION, WE HAVE NOT BEEN READING THEM AND THAT HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC WHEN WE'VE BEEN IN PUBLIC. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE NOTE THAT THE FIRST PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN TO ANYBODY INDIVIDUALLY TO ACCEPT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS IMPORTANCE IN READING THIS TODAY, AND THIS IS REQUESTED BY COMMISSIONER BALTON. AND WHEREAS IN NINETEEN TWENTY SIX, HARVARD SCHOLAR DR. CARTER G. WOODSON CHOSE THE SECOND WEEK OF FEBRUARY TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND HIS DETERMINATION TO BRING BLACK HISTORY INTO THE MAINSTREAM PUBLIC ARENA. AND DR. WOODSON DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO MAKING THE WORLD SEE THE NEGRO AS A PARTICIPANT RATHER THAN A FIGURE IN HISTORY. AND WHEREAS SOME OTHER IMPORTANT EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE IN FEBRUARY AND LIKE HISTORY ARE FEBRUARY THREE, 1870, THE DATE, THE 15TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION WAS PASSED 20 BLOCKS AWAY TO VOTE FEBRUARY TWENTY FIVE, 1870, THE DATE HIRAM REVELS, THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN UNITED STATES SENATOR, TOOK HIS OATH OF OFFICE FEBRUARY 12. NINETY NINE, THE DAY THAT WCP WAS FOUNDED, FEBRUARY ONE, 1960. [00:05:03] THE DATE THEY SIT IN THAT WOULD BECOME A CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT MILESTONE TOOK PLACE AT A SEGREGATED WOOLWORTH'S LUNCH COUNTER I GREENSBORO, NORTH CAROLINA, FEBRUARY TWENTY ONE NINETEEN SIXTY FIVE, THE DATE MALCOLM X AND BECAME A NATIONAL HOLIDAY WHEN, DURING A SPEECH TO MARCH NINETEEN SEVENTY SIX UNITED STATES BICENTENNIAL, PRESIDENT GERALD FORD RECOGNIZED, QUOTE, THE TWO OFTEN NEGLECTED ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF BLACK AMERICANS IN EVERY ENDEAVOR THROUGHOUT OUR HISTORY, UNQUOTE. AND WHILE THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN FEBRUARY, IT WAS VERY CLOSE. ON JANUARY, TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY ONE POINT, KAMALA HARRIS WAS INAUGURATED AS THE FIRST UNITED STATES FEMALE AFRICAN ASIAN AMERICAN, THE US VICE PRESIDENT, THE HIGHEST RANKING FEMALE ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE UNITED STATES HISTORY. WHEREAS THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IS DOCUMENTED AND DEEPLY EMBEDDED IN EDUCATION, MEDICINE, SCIENCE, ARTS, MUSIC, DANCE, ARCHITECTURE, DRAMA, ATHLETICS, ENGINEERING. POLITICS AND BENEFITING ALL RACES AND WHERE, AS WE MARK BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WE REFLECT ON BOTH HISTORY AND TEACHINGS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND FOCUS ON THE PROGRESS, RICHNESS AND DIVERSITY OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN ACHIEVEMENTS, AS WELL AS CELEBRATE GIANTS OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENTS AND COUNTLESS OTHER MEN AND WOMEN WHOSE NAMES ARE ETCHED IN THE HEARTS OF THEIR LOVED ONES AND THE CORNERSTONES OF THE COUNTRY THEY HAVE HELPED. NOW, THEREFORE, I'M MICHELLE JAGAN. AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, I HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY TWENTY TWENTY ONE BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN THE CITY OF TAMRAT AND URGE RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CULTURAL RICHNESS OF OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER BOLDEN, FOR BRINGING THAT TO US. THE ONE THE ONE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, I APOLOGIZE, IS NOT THE MOST UPDATED ONE, I HAVE MADE THE CHANGES PRIOR TO BEING ABLE TO GET THIS TO EVERYONE TO SEE. THE NEXT PROCLAMATION HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY OUR FORMER COMMISSIONER, JULIE [2.b. Proclamation - Human Trafficking Awareness Month] FISHMAN FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. MY APOLOGIES. I'M TRYING TO PUT UP THE SCREEN TO BE ABLE TO READ IT. WHEREAS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS AGO, OUR NATION CODIFIED THE FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH THAT SLAVERY IS AN AFFRONT TO HUMAN DIGNITY AN STILL BITTER FACT REMAINS THAT MILLIONS OF MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN AROUND THE GLOBE ARE SUBJECT TO MODERN DAY SLAVERY, THE CRUEL, INHUMANE PRACTICE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING. AND WHEREAS HUMAN TRAFFICKING OCCURS WHEN AN ADULT OR CHILD IS RECRUITED, HARVARD OBTAINED OR EXPLOITED THROUGH FORCE, FRAUD OR COERCION FOR THE PURPOSES OF SEXUAL EXPLOITATION, FORCED LABOR, INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE, DEBT BONDAGE AND OTHER METHODS, METHODS OF SLAVERY. AND WHEREAS PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE ARE TRAFFICKED, EVERY DAY IN THE UNITED STATES IS COMMITTED TO REMAINING A LEADER IN THE GLOBAL MOVEMENT TO END THIS PRACTICE. WHEREAS ALL NATIONS HAVE A PART TO PLAY IN KEEPING OUR WORLD SAFE FOR ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF AGE, BACKGROUND OR BELIEF, AND WHEREAS DURING THE MONTH OF JANUARY, TWENTY TWENTY ONE, LET US RECOGNIZE THE VICTIMS OF TRAFFICKING, ASSIST THEM ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY AND THOSE RESOLVE TO BUILD A FUTURE AND WHERE ITS PERPETRATORS ARE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE DENIED THEIR INHERENT HUMAN RIGHTS OF FREEDOM, DIGNITY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. NOW, THEREFORE, I SHALL TAKE ON THIS MAN TO BE A TIME I DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY ONE AS HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF TAMARACK AND CALL UPON EVERYONE TO RECOGNIZE THE VITAL ROLE WE CAN PLAY IN ENDING ALL HUMAN TRAFFICKING. I BELIEVE THAT. IT'S MS. FISHERMEN HERE TO ACCEPT THIS ONE ALMOST JUST TO THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THE CITY, FOR CONTINUING TO BRING AWARENESS TO THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE WHILE IT IS A GLOBAL ISSUE, IT HAS A MAJOR IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITIES HERE LOCALLY BECAUSE IT IS OUR COMMUNITY KIDS THAT ARE BEING TRAFFICKED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [2.c. Proclamation - Broward County Nonprofit Hidden Hero Xenia McFarling] THE NEXT PROCLAMATION. NEXT, YOU MENTIONED THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PRESENT AND THE FIRST ONE REQUESTED BY MYSELF. IS FOR. CYNTHIA MCFARLIN, WHEREAS THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF BROWARD COUNTY HAS SELECTED CYNTHIA MCFARLIN AS A 20 20 NON POSITIVE. WHEREAS CYNTHIA MCFARLAND IS A VICE PRESIDENT OF REHABILITATION PROGRAMS LIFE NET FOR FAMILIES, FORT LAUDERDALE AND THE RESIDENTS OF FLORIDA LIVE NET FOR FAMILIES PROVIDES A GATEWAY TO STABILITY FOR PEOPLE IN BROWARD COUNTY EXPERIENCING HUNGER, HOMELESSNESS AND POVERTY. [00:10:01] THE KEY ELEMENTS FOR DELIVERING THE MISSION OF PROVIDING FOOD AND NUTRITION, PROMOTING HEALTH AND WELL-BEING AND ENABLIN SUSTAINABILITY. AND WHEREAS THE CRIME WAS HONORED FOR BEING INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY CAN SERVE SAFELY, WHEREAS CINDY HAS TIRELESSLY WORKED OPERATING THERE AND COORDINATING RESOURCES TO ASSIST FAMILIES WITH FOOD, SHOWERS, CLOTHING, AND TO HELP PEOPLE REGAIN AND MAINTAIN STABILITY IN THE MIDST OF THE CORONA VIRUS PANDEMIC. AND WHEREAS MRS. FRAILING HAS SHOWN THAT FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION, INSPIRING OTHERS TO REMAIN DEDICATED TO HELPING OTHERS. AND AS THE CITY OF SAMARRA IS PROUD TO HAVE THE AS A RESIDENT AND WHEREAS THE FOLLOWING REFLECTS THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY, RESIDENTS WHO CONSTANTLY DEVOTE THEIR TIME, TALENT AND RESOURCES TO THE GREATER GOOD WITH COURAGE, CARE AND COMPASSION. NOW, THEREFORE, I SHALL TAKE ON AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARACK, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE SINEAD MACFARLANE FOR HIS SELFLESS DEDICATION, INVESTING IN BETTER LIVES FOR FAMILIES ACROSS BROWARD COUNTY. MS. FOLLOWING, ARE YOU HERE? YES, GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT. I MEAN, I'M DOING WHAT I DO. IT COMES FROM THE HEART AND IT'S JUST KNOWING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THOSE WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE AND GIVEN THEM A HAND UP, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE'RE SORRY THAT WE CANNOT DO THIS IN PERSON AS WE NORMALLY WOULD DO SO. BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE TO GET THIS PROCLAMATION TO YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING YOU IN PERSON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THIS NEXT PROCLAMATION. [2.d. Proclamation - Broward County Nonprofit Hidden Hero Alex Nesar] GOES TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WORKS FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF. REPRESENTING AND SERVING LIVE FOR 20 YEARS, ANOTHER ONE OF THE ORGANIZATION IN OUR COUNTY. SO THIS IS FOR MR. ALEX NASSAR. WHEREAS COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF BROWARD COUNTY HAS SELECTED GONZALES AS A 20 20 NONPROFIT HIDDEN HERO, AND NASSAR IS THE DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND A RESIDENT OF TAMPA, FLORIDA. WHEREAS ALISON STAR WAS HONORED FOR HIS BOLD AND INSPIRING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY DURING AN ESPECIALLY CHALLENGING YEAR COLLABORATING WITH THE CENTER FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING TO INSTALL RAMPS AND CONTACTING VENDORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PURCHASE MATERIALS THAT WERE USUALLY DONATED BY NATIONAL PARTNERS FOR OTHER REPAIRS TO IMPROVE HOUSING, QUALITY AND HEALTH FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. SMART PLANNING AND EFFICIENT PRACTICES ENABLED ALEX TO FINISH UNDER BUDGET DESPITE PRICE INCREASES AND REDUCED VOLUNTEERISM. AND WHEREAS MASSAR UNDERSTANDS THE CRITICAL NEED FOR SAFE, DECENT HOMES, PARTICULARLY SINCE COVID-19 BY IMPLEMENTING NEW PROTOCOLS TO KEEP SUBCONTRACTOR'S STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS SAFE WHILE BUILDING HOMES, RESULTING IN THAT ONE CASE OF COVID TRACEABLE 19 TRACEABLE TO THEIR WORK SITES. AND WHERE A CORONAVIRUS IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY RISK TO THE HEALTH, WELL-BEING AND PROSPERITY OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT INDIVIDUALS LIKE MR. NASSAR HAVE SHOWN UNWAVERING COMPASSION, COURAGE AND STRENGTH, BRINGING HELP AND HOPE TO THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST AND WHERE, AS A CITY OF TAMARAC IS PROUD TO HAVE NASSAR AS A RESIDENT AND AS ALISON REFLECTS THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY RESIDENTS WHO CONSISTENTLY DEVOTE THEIR TIME, TALENT AND RESOURCES FOR THE GREATER GOOD. NOW, THEREFORE, I SHALL TAKE ON AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, TO HEREBY RECOGNIZE MYSELF AS DEDICATED AND BETTER LIVES FOR FAMILIES ACROSS MY COUNTY. AS MR. MS., ARE YOU HERE? YES, MA'AM. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. AND BEFORE I HAVE YOU SPEAK IS MS. NANCY ROBIN, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HABITAT ON THE LINE. I GUESS SHE'S NOT I KNOW SHE SHE WAS HOPING TO BE ALIVE. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SAY? I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU. MAYOR GOMEZ AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS HONOR KNOW I'M TRULY PROUD TO ACCEPT TO BE ACCEPTED FOR THIS, ESPECIALLY SINCE I LIVE IN THE CITY FOR I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS TO TRULY GRATEFUL. YOU KNOW, I WORK FOR A GREAT ORGANIZATION AND I'M TRULY PROUD TO BE WITH THEM. AND I GOT TO SHARE THIS HONOR WITH THE REST OF MY TEAM BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THEY MAY CALL ME A HERO, BUT OUR ORGANIZATION IS EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. YOU WERE ABLE TO BE HERE WITH US AS WELL. AND TO AS I SAID, I'M SORRY THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THIS IN PERSON, BUT WE WILL GET THE PROCLAMATION TO YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN PERSON SOMETIME SOON. [00:15:05] THANK YOU. AND AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO COMMISSIONER SPORTS COMMISSIONER BALTON. [3.a. Commissioner Bolton] GOOD MORNING. NOTHING TO REPORT. THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IN THE COMMUNITY CAN GO TO FACEBOOK DOT COM FORWARD SLASH COMMISSIONER GARLAND BOLTO AND MY CELL PHONE NUMBER IS A NINE FIVE FOUR TWO SEVEN FIVE THREE EIGHT FIVE ZERO. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK TO ME PERSONALLY AND IF YOU WANT TO REACH ME, YOU CAN ALSO REACH ME AT GARLAND DOT BOLTON AT TAMARAC DOT ORG. MY OFFICE NUMBER IS NINE FIVE FOUR FIVE NINE SEVEN THREE FOUR SIX ONE. HAVE A HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH WHEN THE MONTH TURNS AROUND AND SO MUCH. [3.b. Commissioner Gelin] THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JOHN. YOU DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO FINISH IT, SO I'LL JUST PRESENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. BUT I DID HAVE A GREAT, GREAT DISCUSSION WITH OUR FEDERAL LOBBYISTS FROM THE FERGUSON GROUP STATE LOBBYIST RON BOOK AND JUST BEING A FEW CALLS, BUT I'LL DISCUSS THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. THANKS. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. THERE WAS NOTHING TO REPORT OR JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAD A GREAT WORKSHOP ON [3.c. Vice Mayor Villalobos] MONDAY AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR THE COOPERATION. WELCOME BACK. [3.d. Commissioner Placko] GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A LENGTHY AGENDA, SO I WILL RELINQUISH IT WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION I HAD WITH VAL. I'M NOT GOING TO STEAL HER THUNDER, THOUGH, SO I WILL STEP DOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [3.e. Mayor Gomez] AND IN LIGHT OF. COMMUNITY SPIRIT, I WILL ALSO NOT HAVE TO REPORT, OTHER THAN THANKING OUR STATE LOBBYISTS, FEDERAL LOBBYISTS FOR THEIR TIME AND OUR STAFF FOR THEIR EXCELLENT WORK ON MONDAY AND MY COMMISSION FOR PUTTING IN A LONG DAY HAVING A GOOD DISCUSSION. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY REPORT. [4. CITY ATTORNEY REPORT] THANK YOU, MADAM. JUST A BRIEF COMMENT ON THE HOTEL CASE. AGAIN, THE COURT HAS NOT DIRECTED THE CITY TO RESPOND. SO AND THIS TIME THE CASE IS JUST PENDING BEFORE THE COURT TRIAL APPELLATE COURT IN BROWARD COUNTY. CITY MANAGER, YOUR REPORT, THANK YOU, MADAM. [5. CITY MANAGER REPORT] I DO HAVE A FEW ITEMS TO REPORT ON THIS MORNING. FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT TO LET ALL OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS KNOW THAT THE NEW FEDERAL STIMULUS PROGRAMS HAVE REOPENED ONCE AGAIN, OFFERING BOTH EPPY AND IDLE FUNDING TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES STRUGGLING FROM THE IMPACTS OF KOBAN. THERE IS A FREE WEBINAR TOMORROW, THURSDAY, JANUARY TWENTY EIGHT FROM ONE TO TWO THIRTY P.M. TO LEARN MORE ABOUT CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE PROGRAMS AND HOW TO APPLY. TO REGISTER FOR THIS WEBINAR, PLEASE VISIT THE BROWARD COUNTY OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT EVENTS PAGE. THAT'S A W W W BROWNRIGG BACKSLASH ECON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE SOME MOVIES IN THE PARK. PARKS AND RECREATION WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO JOIN US FOR A FREE BIG SCREEN MOVIE IN THE PARK ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 5TH, WHERE WE WIL BE SHOWING THE MOVIE BLACK PANTHER. THE MOVIE STARTS AT SEVEN P.M. AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX. THAT'S AT NINETY NINE 01 NW. SEVENTY SEVEN STREET LIMITED TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE. PRE REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED TO RESERVE YOUR SPACE. THE COST IS FIVE DOLLARS PER SPACE. IT'S UP TO SIX FAMILY MEMBERS ALLOWED. FIRST, SPACE CONCESSIONS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE. A FREE BAG OF GOODIES WILL BE GIVEN FOR EACH SPACE RESERVED. SO WE ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE REGISTER AT W W W TAMARAC DASH MOVIE IN THE PARK DOT EVENTBRITE DOT COM. WE TALKED ABOUT THE STORY WORK PROGRAM. WE'D LIKE EVERYONE TO COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE IN OUR STORY WALK EVENT. THIS IS A FAMILY FUN EVENT THAT'S GOING TO BE HELD AT WATER EDGE PARK AT SEVENTY FIVE OH NW SIXTY FIRST STREET ON SATURDAY, FEBRUAR 13TH FROM 10 A.M. TO TWELVE PM. STROLL THROUGH THE PARK AND ENJOY A FREE INTERACTIVE READING OF WE ALL BELONG. PARTICIPANTS WILL RECEIVE A FREE BOOK WHILE SUPPLIES LAST. WE ARE ASKING EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATES TO MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCE IN PARKS AND RECREATION WANTS TO CORDIALLY INVITE YOU TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY MONTH AT THE TAMARACK SPORTS COMPLEX. THAT'S NINETY NINE OH ONE NW SEVENTY SEVEN THREE ON FEBRUARY ON FRIDAY FEBRUARY TWENTY SIX FROM SIX TO EIGHT THIRTY PM. DR. MARC LAMONT HILL, AMERICAN ACADEMIC, AUTHOR, ACTIVIST AND TELEVISION [00:20:04] PERSONALITY, WILL GIVE A LIVE VIRTUAL PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE LARGE MOVIE SCREEN AT THE TAMARACK SPORTS COMPLEX. THE EVENT WILL INCLUDE AN ART DISPLAY, POETRY DANCE, RECOGNITION OF THE AREA OF BLACK COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND THE PRESENTATION BY DR. BILL FETING. SOUTH FLORIDA CONTINUES TO HAVE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS IN TAMARACK. THE NEXT DISTRIBUTION EVENTS WILL TAKE PLACE ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 10TH, FROM NINE TO 11 AT THE CHRISTIAN LIFE CENTER CHURCH FEBRUARY 17 FROM NINE TO 11 AS THE CHRISTIAN LIFE CENTER CHURCH AND MONDAY FEBRUARY TWENTY SECOND FROM NINE TO 11 AT THE COMMUNITY CHRISTIAN CHURCH FROM PUBLIC SERVICES WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS WORKED WITH CITY STAFF TO CREATE A FLIER WHICH HAS BEEN SENT OUT TO ALL TAMARAC RESIDENTS REGARDING RECYCLING. THE FLIER INCLUDES INFORMATION EXPLAINING THE BENEFITS OF RECYCLING. ALONG WITH SOME DO'S AND DON'TS, THE CITY CONTINUES TO ASK RESIDENTS TO VOLUNTARILY NOT RECYCLE GLASS. THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THIS IS THE LACK OF A RELIABLE MARKET FOR RECYCLED GLASS AND THE COST OF THE CITY. WASTE MANAGEMENT STILL ACCEPTS GLASS. WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING RESIDENTS TO DISPOSE OF IT DIRECTLY INTO THEIR GARBAGE AND OR REUSED GLASS JARS, BOTTLES, ETC.. FOR OTHER THINGS, WE THANK ALL OF THE RESIDENTS FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN INCREASING OUR RECYCLING. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION IS HAPPY TO REPORT THE EXPENDITURE OF ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT DOLLARS IN CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUNDS FROM THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORP.. THIS HAS ALLOWED US TO ASSIST TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS. THE CITY'S INITIAL ALLOCATION WITH TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND AFTER A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM, IMPLEMENTATION AND RAPID EXPENDITURE BY THE HOUSING STAFF. THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAS OFFERED US ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO ENSURE THAT ALL TAMARAC RESIDENTS WHO APPLIED AND WERE QUALIFIED WERE GIVEN ASSISTANCE. STAFF ACCEPTED FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION'S OFFER AND REQUESTED AND RECEIVED ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS FOR A TOTAL ALLOCATION OF ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND, ALLOWING OUR RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE THREE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SIX DOLLARS FROM MORTGAGE AND UTILITY PAYMENTS, EIGHT HUNDRED AND NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED TWENTY TWO DOLLARS FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS, WHICH INCLUDED NEW ROOFS AND ELECTRICAL UPGRADES. AND THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY. NINE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE DOLLARS FOR RENTERS WHO WERE ASSISTED WITH RENT AND UTILITY PAYMENTS, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HOUSING DIVISION IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE A FIFTH ROUND OF RESIDENTIAL EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE IN MID-FEBRUARY PROGRAM. DETAILS ARE CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED AND AN ANNOUNCEMENT WITH THE DATE AND APPLICATION WINDOW WILL BE MADE SOON. I WANT TO THANK OUR HOUSING STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK IN GETTING THIS MONEY OUT TO THE RESIDENTS DURING THIS TIME OF NEED. FINALLY, FROM FIRE RESCUE, FIRE STATION THIRTY SIX WAS PROVIDED WITH A TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND IT WAS OFFICIALLY PLACED IN SERVICE YESTERDAY. THE NEW FACILITY IS A TRIBUTE TO THE VISION OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE CITY'S LEADERSHIP TEAM, ENSURING THE TAMARAC IS SAFE BY PROVIDING OUTSTANDING FIRE RESCUE SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS, BUSINESSES AND VISITORS. WE WILL SHARE DETAILS ON A GRAND OPENING SOON. TAMARACK FIRE RESCUE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THE THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT AND FOR THOSE WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO GET THE PROJECT FINISHED AND THE STATION OPEN. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE THIS MORNING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [6. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION] WE WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. CITY CLERK, BEFORE I READ THIS, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC PARTICIPATION? WE HAVE ONE EMAIL THAT WAS JUST SUBMITTED. NO PHONE CALLS. SHALL WE GET IN THE RULES OF THE ROAD, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION? ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK TO ANY ISSUE THAT IS NOT AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS MEETING. SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES DURING THIS ITEM AND PUBLIC HEARINGS. THERE WILL BE A 30 MINUTE AGGREGATE TIME LIMIT FOR THIS ITEM. AND ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT PUBLICLY ON ANY MATTER, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, MAY SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS BY EMAIL TO CITY CLERK AT TAMAI FOR ALL COMMENTS SUBMITTED BY EMAIL THAT IF THEY ARE THREE MINUTES OR LESS SHALL BE AGAINST THE RECORD. ALL COMMENTS ON THE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. PUBLIC COMMENTS MAY ALSO BE SUBMITTED ONLINE DURING THE MEETING TO FACEBOOK. WHAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO REGISTER ONLINE AT THE HOME MESSED THAT ONE. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE CONTACTED BY TELEPHONE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME DURING THE MEETING TO OFFER THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THIS COMES FROM WARREN GREEN THIS MORNING AT NINE FORTY EIGHT. [00:25:03] THE EMAIL SAYS, MAYOR AND COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR LIVE STREAMING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP. GOOD TO SEE THAT. SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ARE FOCUSING ON BIGGER PICTURE ITEMS THEN HOW TO ALLOCATE OFFICE SPACE AND PARKING ASSIGNMENTS. I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PRESENTATION, WHAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE BACK OF AND WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT SO MANY OF THE POINTS WERE ADDRESSED DURING THE MEETING. HOWEVER, ONE ITEM WHICH I BELIEVE TO BE IMPORTANT TO TAMARA ON GOING HEALTH WAS NOT THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THE COMMISSION'S ABILITY POLICY TO SUPPORT A POSITIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT. GOAL NUMBER SIX, DYNAMIC WORKPLACE. I BELIEVE THIS WAS AN OUTGROWTH OF THE INVESTIGATION INTO COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S ACTIONS CREATING A HOSTILE WORK ENVIRONMENT FOR EMPLOYEES AND THE FINDING THAT HE HAD VIOLATED CITY CODES. GIVEN THE RATHER BIZARRE INTERROGATION ON MONDAY OF THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING THE PRICE OF MILK AND HIS JOB EVALUATION, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION OF COMMISSION CIVILITY IS MOST CERTAINLY NEEDED, AND SOON I HOPE THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED AT A PUBLIC MEETING IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. IN CLOSING, PLEASE KNOW THAT I HAVE NO INTENTION OF GETTING INTO A TIT FOR TAT FOR ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION, BUT I DO WANT T MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT MY WORDS AND ACTIONS ARE MINE AND MINE ALONE. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN TAMARACK SINCE BEFORE THE CURRENT DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER CAME ON THE SCENE. THE INCREASING NEGATIVITY CREATED OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS IS TAKING OUR CITY IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. IT'S FOR THIS REASON THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK UP WHEN NEEDED. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE OR THAT. JUST SORRY, THAT JUST CAME IN VIA FACEBOOK. AND THIS IS FROM PHYLLIS ASTRAL REDLER. THANK YOU MUCH FOR GETTING KAPITI THE VACCINE. THE PROCESS WAS WONDERFUL. SINCERELY APPRECIATE GODOR BOOSTER'S YESTERDAY. SO FAR, SO GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. [7. CONSENT AGENDA] MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, CITY MANAGER, THE NEW ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TODAY THAT AMERICAN EXCELLENT AS THERE ARE NONE, SO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ACTUALLY, THE MOST IN THE SECOND PLACE, SO MOVED. DO I HAVE A SOUND LIKE THAT? WELL, THANK YOU. YES, MR. GARLAND. MR. GARLAND. MR. POCHO, YES, MR. BOLTON, YES, AND MARIO MS., YES, THE MOTION PASSES 40 ZERO. THANK YOU. NOW MOVING TO A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM EIGHT EIGHT ONE THREE FIVE FIVE THREE [8.a. TR13553 - Tamarac 2021 Federal Legislative Update & Agenda] TAMRAT, TWENTY TWENTY ONE, FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE UPDATE AND AGENDA. SO THE ATTORNEY, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD? MR. CITY ATTORNEY, I BELIEVE YOU ARE, I'M SORRY. WHERE IS IT HAPPENED? OK. THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION CITY OF 10:00 A.M. TOMORROW AT TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. I LIKE TO CLERK TO TRANSMIT A COPY OF THE CITY OF TEMERAIRE TO THE 2012 FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE AGENDA TO THE CITIES. THE US SENATORS FROM FLORIDA FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION, THE BROWARD COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THROUGHOUT TH COMPLEX. SO REALLY, I PREFER THE FACT THAT THEY THANK YOU IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I IMAGINE IN SECOND PLACE THAT MOVED. DO HAVE A SECOND. SECOND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MANAGER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I BELIEVE WE HAVE VAL KILMER BACK WITH US THIS MORNING. I KNOW VAL HAS SPOKEN WITH EACH OF YOU PRIVATELY REGARDING THE FEDERAL AGENDA AND QUESTIONS. CONCERNS ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS ASKED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION THIS MORNING TO ALL OF YOU AFTER HER AFTER HER MEETING. AND I BELIEVE SHE'S HERE WITH US AND PREPARED TO DO THAT. SO I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR OVER TO ABOUT GARLAND ABOUT OUR FEDERAL LOBBYIST WITH THE BARBECUE. THANK YOU. CAN EVERYONE SEE ME AND HEAR ME? YES. CAN YOU SEE ME THEN? YES. OK, GREAT, GREAT. TERRIFIC. OK, WELL, I SEE THAT MY PRESENTATION HAS MAGICALLY APPEARED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THIS MORNING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE OF OUR FEDERAL AGENDA, WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING [00:30:02] THIS YEAR. I'D LIKE TO JUST START BY TOUCHING ON SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM LAST YEAR. AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, I MENTIONED TO SOME OF THE FOLKS I SPOKE TO WHEN WE WHEN WHEN I PRESENTED BEFORE THE COMMISSION, WE W ADOPTED A FEDERAL AGENDA THAT DIDN'T EVEN INCLUDE COVID. WE HAD NO IDEA HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT NOT ONLY OUR CITY, BUT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND SO I WANTED TO SORT OF START WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT REALLY REFLECTS THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING NIMBLE IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY ADOPTING WHAT WE THINK WILL BE OUR PRIORITIES, BUT ALSO HAVING THE ABILITY TO TO PIVOT IMMEDIATELY WHEN NECESSARY AND AND SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF OUR TIME LEARNING ABOUT NEW THINGS. AND IN IN THE CASE OF 20/20, THE NEW THING WAS, OF COURSE, COVID-19. SO WE WOUND UP SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON COVID. I WORKED WITH STAFF QUITE A BIT. IN FACT, I WOULD SAY BY MARCH, MAYBE EARLY APRIL, WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND DO WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH BOTH CITY MANAGEMENT STAFF GRANT STAFF AND FINANCE STAFF IN ORDER TO REALLY GET OUR ARMS AROUND ALL OF THESE GIGANTIC PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT WERE COMING OUT FAST AND FURIOUSLY. AND NOT ONLY THE LEGISLATION THAT CAME OUT, BUT ALL OF THE RUMORS AND ALL OF THE THERE WAS REALLY A LOT TO TO SORT OF GET OUR ARMS AROUND. AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON, ALL OF THE NEW THINGS THAT THE CITY HAD TO TAKE CARE OF, THE FERGUSON GROUP REALLY SOUNDED OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO CALL ALL OF THIS INFORMATION DOWN AND JUST PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT, WHICH WE REALLY THOUGHT WAS GOING FORWARD AND THAT WHICH HAD A DIRECT IMPACT ON YOU, BECAUSE THERE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY MANY THINGS THAT DIDN'T AND THAT TURNED OUT TO BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL. I THINK WE WE WOUND UP ADVISING CITY STAFF TO GO TO THE COUNTY EARLY WITH ALL ITS ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES. AND THAT WAS TURNED OUT TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. THE CITY WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY ABOUT TWO A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF DIRECT COVID-19 RELATED EXPENDITURES THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR WHICH YOU'RE STILL STILL WAITING ON THAT. NOW, WE ALSO DRAFTED LETTERS TO CONGRESS AND ADVISED WHEN TO SEND THEM. WE EXPLAINED VARIOUS PROGRAMS. I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO TO VARIOUS COMMISSIONERS THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE LAST WEEK OR SO. SO I'LL I'LL CUT I'LL CUT SHORT. BUT IF WE COULD MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL KIND OF FINISH UP ON AND COVID-19. AS I MENTIONED, THE CITY WAS ABLE TO SUBMIT NEARLY TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND THE CITY RECEIVED ALMOST TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN VARIOUS PARTS OF FUNDING. THE CITY MANAGER ACKNOWLEDGED THAT GIANT POT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THE CITY STAFF WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE, WHICH IS TERRIFIC, AND THEN OTHER EMERGENCY FUNDS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND PROVIDE RELIEF AND THINGS LIKE THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AS USUAL, AS WE DO EACH YEAR, WE'VE PROVIDED FEDERAL GRANTS SUPPORT, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. VICE MAYOR, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST. BUT I'LL I WILL I WILL REPEAT IT THIS YEAR SO THAT YOU CAN SORT OF HEAR IT. AND THAT IS THAT THE CONGRESS PUT A MORATORIUM ON EARMARKS SOME TIME AGO. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED, THAT. REALLY RAISED THE IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO WORK THROUGH THE FEDERAL GRANT SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT BECAME THE WAY THAT DISCRETIONARY FUNDS WERE DISTRIBUTED OR NOT TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO THE FERGUSON GROUP SPENDS A LOT OF TIME CULLING THROUGH THE THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT GRANT PROGRAMS AND COMING UP WITH JUST A LIST OF THOSE FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAMS THAT HAVE A SPECIFIC SYNERGY WITH THOSE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS DOING. AND SO WE TRY TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROGRAMS AND WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO CITY STAFF AS AS GRANT APPLICATIONS OPEN UP. AND THEN AS YOU ARE, A CITY STAFF DECIDE WHETHER TO APPLY OR NOT WHEN WHEN THEY MAKE APPLICATION, WE TRY TO HELP THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, IMPORTANT AREAS ARE OF THE HEART OF THE APPLICATION. AND THEN AFTER THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, IT USUALLY TAKES A COUPLE OF [00:35:03] TIMES BEFORE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS SUCCESSFUL. AND SO IF YOU HAVE AN UNSUCCESSFUL GRANT APPLICATION, WHAT WE DO IS WE SET UP A DEBRIEFING, EITHER AN IN-PERSON MEETING OR A PHONE CALL WITH THE ACTUAL MANAGERS OF THE GRANT PROGRAM WHO WHO REVIEWED YOUR APPLICATION SO THAT THE CITY STAFF CAN RECEIVE SPECIFIC AND DIRECT INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE THE APPLICATION TO IN ORDER TO RESUBMIT. AND WE'VE DONE THAT WITH GREAT SUCCESS OVER THE YEARS AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE ALSO IN TWENTY TWENTY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR ONE OF OUR MAJOR ITEMS, OF COURSE, IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR REGULATIONS PROVIDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY ON THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE PROGRAM. THE THE CITY HAS TWO OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND COMMISSIONER BOLTONS DISTRICT THAT THAT PROVIDE THAT CAN PROVIDE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE CONTINUE TO HELP THE CITY BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH VARIOUS FEDERAL AND REGIONAL AGENCIES SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO PUT FORWARD A GRANT APPLICATION, THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING YOUR APPLICATION ARE FAMILIAR WITH BOTH THE CITY, THE STORY OF THE CITY WHERE YOU KNOW FROM FROM WHERE YOU'VE COME AND WHERE YOU'RE GOIN TO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, WRITING THE APPLICATION AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. SO ALL THAT ALL THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF RAISING YOUR VISIBILITY TO THE GRANT PROGRAM MANAGERS AND, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY, HOPEFULLY HELPING YOUR YOUR SUCCESS RATE. OK, NEXT SLIDE. NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE PROPOSED 2021 FEDERAL AGENDA. NEXT SLIDE AND YOU'LL GIVE ME A MOMENT. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HERE ARE THE ANTICIPATED CONGRESSIONAL PRIORITIES FOR 2021 AND HOW CLOSELY ALIGNED THE CITY'S INTERNA PRIORITIES ARE ON THIS LIST. HERE IS A LIST OF OUR PRIORITIES KIND OF IN DESCENDING ORDER. AND AND THEY REALLY DIRECTLY LINE UP WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN CONGRESS. THE THING, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU LISTENING TO THE NEWS, YOU'LL HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS A HANDFUL OF PRIORITIES THAT THEY WANT TO GET TO IMMEDIATELY. THEY INCLUDE COVID RELIEF, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, GREEN INITIATIVES, AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND DISASTER PREPAREDNESS ALL FALL UNDER THE HEADING OF NOT REALLY DISASTER PREPAREDNESS SO MUCH. BUT PUBLIC SAFETY FALLS UNDER THE HEADING OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND SOCIAL JUSTICE REFORM. SO WE ARE VERY IN LINE WITH THOSE PRIORITIES. AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF ACTUAL MOVEMENT ON THIS ON A LOT OF THESE PRIORITIES EARLY IN THIS YEAR. THE THE THE NEW ADMINISTRATION AND THE CONGRESS HAVE DETERMINED THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PASS BOTH COVERED COVID RELIEF LEGISLATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE LEGISLATION THROUGH A PROCESS CALLED RECONCILIATION AND RECONCILIATION IS REALLY A SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WHERE DEBATE TIME IS LIMITED, WHERE IN THE SENATE IT CANNOT BE FILIBUSTERED. AND ULTIMATELY LEGISLATION CAN BE PASSED BY IN THE SENATE BY A 51 VOTE MARGIN. OBVIOUSLY, IDEALLY, WE WE WOULD LIKE TO WE BEING THE NATION, WE BEING THE CONGRESS, WE BEING THE NEW THE NEW ADMINISTRATION WOUL LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PASS THINGS WITH THEM IN A MORE BIPARTISAN NATURE. AND I THINK THEY WILL BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT. BUT RIGHT OUT OF THE GATES, THE ADMINISTRATION REALLY WANTS TO PASS A COVID RELIEF AND AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, AND THEY'VE DETERMINED THEY CAN PASS BOTH OF THIS THROUGH RECONCILIATION. SO THAT IS A THAT'S A BIG DEAL FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT ITEMS OVER COVERT COVID RELIEF THAT I'LL GET TO IN A LITTLE BIT AND INFRASTRUCTURE. I'LL ALSO GET TO GOT A LOT OF NOTES FROM MYSELF ON THIS ONE, BUT I THINK I'LL [00:40:01] GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH ANY QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE OK UNCOVERED RELIEF. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE. WE WILL BE ADVOCATING, OF COURSE, FOR SOME OF THE EMERGENCY FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED IN 2020, WHICH WE HOPE TO RECEIVE AGAIN FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, HOUSING ASSISTANCE, PROVIDER RELIEF, THAT KIND OF THING. I DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT LISTED ON ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THAT THE TWO THINGS I REALLY WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO ARE TWO NEW ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOBBYING VERY HARD FOR VERY QUICKLY IN THE CUPBOARD RELIEF BILL. THE FIRST IS THE ABILITY FOR THESE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUND PAYMENTS. CRF IS WHAT THERE IS THE ACRONYM FOR THESE PAYMENTS TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE CITY RATHER THAN GOING TO THE STATE FIRST OR THE COUNTY FIRST AND HAVING TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS ELIGIBLE AND THEN GET THE COUNTY OR THE STATE TO AGREE THAT WHAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED IS ELIGIBLE. THE ABILITY TO GET THESE FUNDS TO COME DIRECTLY TO THE CITY IS HUGE. IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST PROBABLY NINE MONTHS WITH THE CONGRESS IN IT. IT LOOKS VERY PROMISING THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT INTO THE NEXT COVID RELIEF PACKAGE, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, THE CONGRESS IS GOING TO START IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND HOPES TO FINISH WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR TO SIX WEEKS. THE SECOND THING, WHICH IS ALSO WOULD BE A MAJOR PLUS FOR TAMARAC, IF WE CAN SUCCESSFULLY OBTAIN IT, IS THE ABILITY TO USE THESE CIERRA FUNDS, THE COVID RELIEF FUNDS TO MAKE UP FOR COVID RELATED REVENUE SHORTFALLS AT THE CITY. THAT, OF COURSE, IS A BIG DOLLAR ITEM. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOBBYING VERY HARD WORK OVER THE COMING THE COMING MONTH OR TWO. NEXT SLIDE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS SOMETHING, OF COURSE, THAT HAS BEEN IMPORTANT TO THE CITY FOR FOUR YEARS, AND WE HAVE ONGOING PROJECT THAT FALL UNDER THE HEADING OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REDIVERT DEVELOPMENT. LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE HAVE A VARIETY OF PROJECTS, QUITE A FEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RELATED ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THE SOME OF THEM ARE ONGOING LIKE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, OTHER THINGS LIKE REVITALIZATION AND REDEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, TRYING TO REPOSITION FAILING CLAUSES IN A POST COVID-19 ECONOMY IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT FOR THIS YEAR. WE'VE ALSO GOT THE EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ITEM HERE, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH A SOME IDEA IS TO TO PARTNER WITH PROSPERITY. BROWARD AND BROWARD COLLEGE TRYING TO IMPROVE SOME ITEMS WITHIN VARIOUS ZIP CODES WITH HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED GRANT PROGRAMS FOR THE ARTS AS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS EVEN MORE ON. OF COURSE, WE HAVE PUT IN GRANT APPLICATIONS TO THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS OVER THE YEARS WITH SOME SUCCESS, AND WE WANT T CONTINUE TO TRY TO BUILD ON THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. INFRASTRUCTURE, OF COURSE, IS SOMETHING THAT I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, THESE INITIAL BULLET POINTS ARE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR POLICY OBJECTIVES HAVING TO DO WITH INFRASTRUCTURE. MANY OF THESE ARE ONGOING FROM PREVIOUS YEARS. SO I'D WANT I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE TO SHOW THAT A LOT OF THESE PRIORITY PROJECTS ARE THINGS THAT I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT, SEEING SOME ADDITIONAL POTS OF FUNDING AND MAYBE EVEN INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEM ABILITY TO FUND THINGS, HAVING TO DO WITH HAVING TO DO WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, PARTICULARLY IN TRANSPORTATION. WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE FUNDING FOR BOTH HIGHWAYS AND TRANSIT, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS FOR THESE FIRST TWO PROJECTS. NEXT SLIDE. WE KNOW THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL IS SLATED TO INCLUDE FUNDING FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER, WHICH IS ALSO GOOD NEWS FO SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS [00:45:01] INCLUDED ON THIS SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE'S ALSO WE ALSO EXPECT THERE TO BE MORE FUNDING FOR BROADBAND. AND SO OUR UNDERGROUND FIBER CONNECTING ALL CITY SERVICES MAY FIND A NEW OR EXPANDED POT OF FUNDS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO TAP IN TH COMING YEAR. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO ALL OF THAT IS VERY EXCITING. WHEN I WHEN WE GET TO THE GREEN INITIATIVES WILL KIND OF GO BACK TO SOME OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. HOWEVER, PUBLIC SAFETY AND DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND RECOVERY, THIS IS ANOTHER AREA THAT THE NEW ADMINISTRATION HAS PRIORITIZED FOR BOTH NEW POLICIES HAVING TO DO WITH POLICE POLICING, SOCIAL JUSTICE REFORM AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM. AND I AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SEE MORE FUNDING FOR FEMA IN TERMS OF THE COVID-19 DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND VACCINE ROLLOUT. SO YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IN THE NEWS THAT THE NEW ADMINISTRATION IS PLANNING TO TAP FEMA TO HELP IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE VACCINES. THERE SHOULD BE A LOT MORE FUNDING COMING OUT TO CITIES AND COMMUNITY CENTERS AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT MEDIUMS IN ORDER TO GET THE VACCINE OUT TO MANY, MANY MORE PEOPLE THAN WAS ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE INTO THE FOUR BULLET POINTS ARE THE SAME AS LAST YEAR. HOWEVER, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE EXPECTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR TWO IN TWO MAJOR AREAS, ONE, PREVENTION OF INCARCERATION. AND SO MORE MONEY FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MORE MONEY FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND THEN A LOT MORE PROGRAMING AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR POST INCARCERATION. AND THAT IS REALLY SORT OF A NEW AND EXPANDED VIEW OF TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED GET BACK INTO SOCIETY AND GET BACK INTO WORKING AND HAVE MANY, MANY MORE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES THAN THEY THEY'VE PREVIOUSLY BEEN OFFERED. OK, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE GREEN INITIATIVES IS IT IS GOING TO BE AN EXCITING AREA OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS. SOME OF THIS SOME OF THE GREEN INITIATIVES ARE GOING TO BE ROLLED INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. SO THINGS LIKE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, SOLAR PANELS FOR CITY BUILDINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT, WATER CONSERVATION, ALL OF THAT WE EXPECT TO SEE IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. WE EXPECT TO HAPPEN RIGHT AFTER THE COVID-19 RELIEF BILL PASSES. SO THEY SHOULD GO REALLY IN THAT ORDER ONE AND THEN TO EXPECT TO SEE ALL OF THAT DEALT WITH IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. SO THERE WILL BE AN EXTRA EMPHASIS, THOUGH, WITHIN INFRASTRUCTURE ON GREEN, SUSTAINABLE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS TERRIFIC, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN LOOKING AT FOR A LONG TIME. AND THERE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT GREEN INITIATIVES ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, BUT NOT SO MUCH THE THE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT IT. SO I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND WE'LL BE SENDING A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE NATIONAL THE NFIP PROGRAM, THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, THAT BILL HAS GOT TO GET REAUTHORIZED. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN EXTENDED AND EXTENDED AN EXTENDED FOR OVER FIVE YEARS. SO THE CONGRESS IS GOING TO TRY TO TACKLE THAT THIS YEAR. I COULD NOT TELL YOU. I COULD NOT GIVE YOU ANY INDICATION OF WHETHER THEY WILL BE SUCCESSFUL OR WHETHER THEY WILL JUST EXTEND IT AGAIN. BUT THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. WE, OF COURSE, ARE GOING TO WANT TO SEE SOME MORE FUNDING MONEY AND FEDERAL MONEY IN THE LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND. AND, YOU KNOW, AS IN PAST YEARS, WE DO SUPPORT AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT FEDERAL INVESTMENT AND BOTH LAND ACQUISITION, DEVELOPMENT AND REHABILITATION AND ENHANCING NEW AND EXISTING PARKS. WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE AND I WILL THANK EVERYONE FOR GIVING ME THE TIME, NOT ONLY TODAY, BUT INDIVIDUALLY WITH EACH OF YOU. I REALLY ENJOY DOING THAT EACH YEAR. IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO KIND OF PICK YOUR BRAINS. [00:50:02] AND WHAT'S INTERESTING TO YOU, WHAT SORT OF QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU WHAT YOU FORESEE FOR THE COMING YEAR. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU OVER THE COMING YEAR. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING YEAR. IT'LL BE VERY INTERESTING WHAT WASHINGTON LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT TIME WE ARE ABLE TO GO AND DO OUR ADVOCACY. DOES IT, WHICH I HOPE WILL BE SOMETIME IN THE LATE SPRING, WOULD BE AMBITIOUS AND PROBABLY SUMMER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, OPENING NEW PUBLIC COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS. I HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. AND I AM NOT SEEING ANYBODY FROM WILL WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME, THEREFORE I WILL REQUEST A ROLL CALL. MR. PRESIDENT. YES, MR. POCHO. YES, VICE MAYOR VILLARAIGOSA. YES, MR. GARLAND. AND MAYOR GOMEZ, YES, THE MOTION PASSES FOR TWO ZERO. THANK YOU. [8.b. TR13549 – Ferguson Group LLC Amendment #12 to Agreement] WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE WITNESS TO ONE THREE FIVE FOUR NINE FURGESON GROUP, LLC, AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 TO REMAIN A PLACE WHERE THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU FOR A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION. THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE NUMBER 12 TO THE GROUP BETWEEN THE CITY OF TEMORA AND THE FERGUSON GROUP LLC FOR FEDERAL LOBBYING SERVICES, EXTENDING THE TELL THE GROUP FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY 13, 2021, BECAUSE NOT TO EXCEED EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS PER YEAR AUTHORIZED THE CITY OFFICIALS EXECUTE A 12 YEAR AGREEMENT WHILE THE CONFLICTS DRIVERS ARE REALLY AFFECTED. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A SECOND, PLEASE. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TIAR ONE THIRTY FIVE FIRST, AGREEMENT SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUDY CLARKE. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? THERE ARE NOT MANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED, MR. BOLTON. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, FOR JUST FOR VALVE TO EXPLAIN ON THE RECORD WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT CONVULSIONS ON THE RECORD, WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS? I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION. SORRY, OK. THE TITLE SAYS AMENDMENT AMENDMENT 12 TO AGREEMENT. OK, WHAT'S WITH THE AMENDMENT? I DON'T I DON'T THINK ANYTHING. MAY I ANSWER THIS QUESTION? SURE. LET'S DO SOMETHING. THANK YOU. THE AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY EXTENDING VALSE AGREEMENT FOR ONE YEAR UNDER THE CURRENT TERMS AND CONDITIONS BROKEN SO THAT THE TERM, THE TERMS HAS NOT CHANGED. THE PRICE HAS NOT CHANGED. IT'S JUST AMENDING THE AGREEMENT SO THAT THE EXPIRATION CONTINUES RIGHT. TO ONE. THAT'S CORRECT. OK, GOOD. AND AND LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON EARMARKS? I KNOW THAT YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT PREVIOUSLY IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT WHEN THERE WERE EARMARKS, WHERE YOUR WAS YOUR JOB JUST A LITTLE BIT EASIER THAN IT IS NOW, IT WAS DIFFERENT. THE FOCUS WAS THE FOCUS WAS LOADED A LOT MORE IN TERMS OF THE GETTING FUNDING FOR PROJECTS, THE FOCUS WAS LED AND A LOT MORE INTO THE FIRST THE FIRST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS OF THE LEGISLATIVE YEAR, BECAUSE THERE ARE EXTENSIVE FORMS AND INFORMATION TO FILL OUT, TO PROVIDE NOT ONLY TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE, BUT ALSO TO COMMITTEES AND COMMITTEE STAFF. SO THE WAY WE WENT ABOUT OUR BUSINESS WAS WHAT WAS DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF EASIER OR HARDER. THAT'S A TOUGH ONE TO ANSWER. IT'S ABOUT THE SAME, REALLY, IT DEPENDS. I MEAN, THE EASY AND THE HARD HAVE A LOT MORE TO DO WITH WHAT OUR PRIORITIES AND [00:55:03] OUR PROJECTS ARE IN CONJUNCTION OR NOT, WITH WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION AND CONGRESSIONAL AND AGENCY PRIORITIES ARE IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, SOME YEARS, IT'S HARDER THAN OTHERS TO GET FUNDING FOR PROJECTS OR TO TO SEE POLICY INITIATIVES THAT WE WOULD LIKE PASSED. SO. AND I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION AS SPECIFICALLY AS. AS YOU'D LIKE, BUT IT REALLY DOES IT SHIFTS FROM YEAR TO YEAR IN TERMS OF THE LIKE THE FUNDING THAT THE CITY RECEIVES. WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED HAD WE NOT YOUR SERVICES THIS PAST YEAR? I DON'T THINK SO, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I THINK THAT HAD HAD YOU NOT HAVE THE SERVICES OF THE FERGUSON GROUP, THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE MYRIAD PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT CONTAINED THE INFORMATION THAT THEN LED TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU WERE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE FOR COVID-19 RELATED EXPENDITURES. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE DIFFICULT FOR CITY STAFF TO TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT LEGISLATION AND FIGURE THAT OUT. SO I I BELIEVE THAT HAVING THE FERGUSON GROUP ENABLED CITY STAFF NOT ONLY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR, BUT ALSO TO UNDERSTAND IT QUICKLY AND PROBABLY MORE QUICKLY THAN SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE EXTRA EXPERTIZE. AND THAT ABILITY ENABLED YOU TO GET INTO IT WITH THE COUNTY VERY EARLY AND TO START WORKING WITH THEM, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH REALLY EARLY. AND SO I, I, I BELIEVE THAT THE THE SUM TOTAL OF THAT IS THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SUBMIT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF OF EXPENDITURES TO BE REIMBURSED FOR. OK, SO SO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION, BUT THE MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED, WOULD WE STILL HAVE RECEIVED THOSE OF THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED? ARE THE FUNDINGS ENTITLED OR WERE WE ENTITLED TO TO THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED OR NOT? SOME OF THE FUNDING YOU'RE ENTITLED TO AND SOME OF THE FUNDING COMES THROUGH GRANT APPLICATIONS. THERE ARE NO LINE ITEM EARMARKS, SO THERE IS NO WAY FOR ANY FOR ANYONE NATIONWIDE TO RECEIVE A LINE ITEM THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO LOBBY FOR. SO ALL FUNDING COMES THROUGH ENTITLEMENT EMERGENCY FUNDS AND AND GRANT FUNDING. SO OUR ABILITY TO HELP YOU FOCUS ON THOSE GRANT PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY ELIGIBLE FOR AND OUR ABILITY TO HELP YO WITH THE RELATIONSHIPS AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO WRITE THESE GRANTS AND TO GET THE SUPPORT AND SUPPORT LETTERS FROM YOUR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IS ALL VERY HELPFUL AND ULTIMATELY WINNING SUCCESSFUL GRANTS. DOES THE FERGUSON GROUP WRITE THOSE GRANTS OR DO OR DO WE WRITE THEM? AND THEN YOU FOLLOW UP ON THEM. YOU TYPICALLY WRITE THEM AND WE FOLLOW UP ON THEM. WE DO HAVE ABILITY TO WRITE THEM AS WELL. BUT YOU HAVE GRANT WRITERS YEAR, SO YOU WRITE THEM AND SUBMIT THEM. THEN WE WE COULD IF WE WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THEM AND SEE IF WE RECEIVE THE SAME TYPE OF RESULTS THAT YOU GOT. RIGHT. SURE. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN IS WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED YOUR SERVICES. YOU'RE JUST THERE TO GUIDE US THROUGH THE PROCESS. YOU MEAN OVERALL OR IN TERMS OF GRANTS, IN TERMS OF THESE GRANTS AND RECEIVING THE FUNDING THROUGH THE GRANTS? WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR CITY STAFF. I THINK I THINK IF YOU DID, YOU MIGHT FIND THAT THEY HAVE FOUND OUR SERVICES HELPFUL AND THEY KNOW THEY FELT THAT WE'RE NEEDED AND HELPFUL OR NOT. I SEEMS TO ME THAT WE ARE PRETTY HELPFUL. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR CITY STAFF. BUT BUT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE THE STAFF IS THE ONE TO WRITE [01:00:02] THE GRANTS AND BECAUSE THE STAFF CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE GRANTS AND TRY TO RECEIVE THE SAME FUNDING THAT YOU RECEIVED FOR US THROUGH YOUR HELP, WOULD YOU AGREE THAT WE DON'T REALLY NEED YOUR SERVICES IF WE COULD DO IT BY OURSELVES? I THINK IT WORKS SORT OF LIKE A PERSON'S TO DO LIST. I MEAN, I HAVE A MILLION THINGS ON MY TO DO LIST, BUT I ONLY HAVE TIME TO GET TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT IN A CERTAIN DAY. AND BY HAVING, YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE A PARTNER ON CERTAIN THINGS AND SOMEONE WHO'S PUSHING ME AND WHO'S PROVIDING THE INFORMATION AND FOLLOWING UP, I TEND TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE AND WITH BETTER SUCCESS RATE. AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE WORK. OK, SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A BAND WITH THE FERGUSON GROUP? I HAVE BEEN WITH THE FERGUSON GROUP. I GOT PREGNANT WITH MY SON SHORTLY AFTER ARRIVING THERE, AND HE IS NOW 21, SO ALMOST 22 YEARS. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR FOR YOUR HONEST ANSWERS, AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, BUT THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SEE, NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, SO PLEASE CALL THE WORLD. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER PARK. YES, MR. GALLAGHER. YES, MR. BOLTON. YES, VICE MAYOR VILLA LOBO. AND THEY ARE GOING GLAD THAT THE MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE NOW GOING TO SUE. OH, SORRY. [8.c. TR13551 - Broward County Bus Transit Maintenance Agreement] THANK YOU. IT'S YOUR PRESENTATION. WE'RE NOW MOVING TO A C, C ARE ONE THREE FIVE FIVE ONE BROWARD COUNTY BUS TRANSIT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE TITLE OF THE RECORD. THANK YOU. MY RESOLUTION CITY COMMISSIONERS IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, APPROVING YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT. SO GREAT BETWEEN BROWARD COUNTY AND THE CITY. TAMARACK ATTACH AS EXHIBIT ONE TO PROVIDE FOR BUS STOP IMPROVES ADDITIONAL AS AN ADDITIONAL SEVENTY NINE LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE AGENCY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT ONE TO COOPERATE HERE AND VOTE FOR CONFLICTS, PROVIDE VISIBILITY AND PROVIDE FOR THE FACT THAT. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. IN THE SECOND PLACE, SOME. THE SECOND CIRCUIT SECOND EXCELLENT, THANK YOU, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MAXINE CALLAWAY, PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR PRESENTATION THIS MORNING. THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD, MAXINE CALLAWAY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT. JUST A QUICK PRESENTATION FOR YOU ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT FOR THE INSTALLATION OF BUS BENCHES AND SHELTERS. I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN LONG OVERDUE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM. SO LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT IS TO COVER SEVENTY NINE ADDITIONAL BUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS PROJECT FOR THE INSTALLATION WILL BE FUNDED BY THE STATE TAX PROGRAM TO WHAT THE COUNTY CALLS THEIR MOBILITY ADVANCEMENT PROGRAM. THE AMENITIES WILL INCLUDE PARTIAL AMENITIES AND AMENITIES AND AMENITIES. ARE THOSE LOCATIONS THAT WILL HAVE A SHELTER, A BENCH, TRASH CANS, BIKE RACKS, THOSE ARE CONSIDERED THE FULL AMENITIES AND YOUR PERSONAL AMENITIES ARE JUST YOUR BEST INTEREST. AND ONLY THIS SECOND AMENDMENT OR FIRST AMENDMENT ALSO INCLUDES A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AS THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN ALL THE LOCATIONS. AND I'LL SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND. I KNOW THE FIRST AMENDMENT SPEAKS TO SEVENTY NINE NEW LOCATIONS, BUT IN FACT, IT COVERS SOME EXISTING LOCATIONS THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS. GOD, IT COVERS 10 LOCATIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY INSTALLED AND WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THIS NEW AGREEMENT, AN ADDITIONAL 12 THAT REALLY IS FROM A PAST FEDERAL GRANT. THE CITY APPROVED OF TWENTY TWO AND SO NEED TO LEAVE ON THIS. TWENTY NINE, THE NEW LOCATIONS THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE INSTALLED. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CITY DID APPROVE AN AGREEMENT BACK IN 2011 OR 16 FULL AMENITIES LOCATION. SO WHEN YOU ADD THE SEVEN, NINE PLUS THE SIXTEEN PRELIMINARY LOCATION, THE [01:05:04] CITY WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE A TOTAL OF NINETY FIVE PLUS LOCATIONS THAT WILL HAVE AMENITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THESE. SO NINE TO FIVE LOCATIONS WITH AMENITIES, WHETHER PARTIAL OR FULL NOTWITHSTANDING, THE CITY HAS A TOTAL OF ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR STAFF LOCATIONS CITY WIDE, SO NINE TO FIVE WILL HAVE SOME AMENITIES OF THE ONE FOR NO MAXIMUM. NINETY FIVE WILL HAVE AMENITIES OF THE ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR STOPS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE COUNTY THAT REPRESENTS 62 PERCENT OF ALL OUR LOCATIONS THAT WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF AN ENTITY, WHICH, ACCORDING TO BROWARD COUNTY, PUSHED US, PUTS US AS NUMBER 10 IN TERMS OF THE HIGHEST MUNICIPALITY IN BROWARD COUNTY THAT WILL HAVE SOME TYPE OF AMENITY AT ITS LOCATION. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA IN TERMS OF HOW THE COUNTY CHOOSES THEIR LOCATION, THEY LOOK AT RIDERSHIP DATA, WHICH FOR THEM IS 10 TO 15 BOARDS ON A DAILY BASIS, AND THE LOCATION MUST HAVE SUFFICIENT RIGHT AWAY TO EITHER INSTALL A PARTIAL OR A FULL COMMITTEE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND SO IN TERMS OF SOME VALUE AND THE TOTAL INVESTMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE IN THE CITY, THE INDIVIDUAL BENCHES THAT DOES THE PARTIAL LOCATION WITH NO SHELTER IS THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE DOLLARS EACH. THE TRASH CAN IS TWO THOUSAND ONE SEVENTY EIGHT POINT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. AND THEN THE SHELTER, DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S RIGHT AWAY, CAN BE FIVE FOOT AND THREE AND THREE EIGHTHS OR SEVEN FOO AND THREE INCH DEEP DEPENDING ON THE ROOF AND THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S AVAILABLE. SO IT WILL RANGE FROM THIRTY THREE THOUSAND TO FIFTY TO THIRTY THREE THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED EACH DEPENDING ON THE SITE. SO A TOTAL FULL AMENITY LOCATION IS THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND THIRTY SIX FEET, LIKE A PARTIAL AMENITY LOCATION. IT'S FIVE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY SEVEN DOLLARS. AND IN TOTAL, TO DATE, ONCE EVERYTHING IS INSTALLED, THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE INVESTED ABOUT TWO POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN AL THE NINE TO FIVE AMENITIES THAT ULTIMATELY THE CITY WILL HAVE CITYWIDE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO JUST THE FUNCTION OF THIS FIRST AMENDMENT, WHAT IT ENTAILS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED OF THE CITY, IT. PROPOSED IT ESSENTIALLY IT ADOPTS THE TERMS FROM THE ORIGINAL 2011 AGREEMENT, IT WILL REQUIRE THAT BROWARD COUNTY WILL INSTALL ALL THE AMENITIES TO THE COMPLETION WITH FINAL INSPECTION BEING DONE BY THE CITY. AND THAT'S WHEN WE ACCEPT THE SHELTERS. THIS IS AT NO COST TO THE CITY THAN THE AMENITIES WILL REMAIN. THE PROPERTY OF BROWARD COUNTY, THE CITY OF TAMARAC, WILL MAINTAIN WERE REQUIRED TO REPAIR OR REPLACE ALL THE AMENITIES AFTER THE CITY FINAL INSPECTION AND AFTER IT'S APPROVED. IF THE AMENITIES ARE DAMAGED OR IT REQUIRES REPAIR, THEN IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. AND THAT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE CITY DOES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE ANYONE IF THE SHELTER IS DAMAGED, IF SOMEONE AROUND THEIR CAR INTO THE SHELTER. THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE THE INSURED ENTITY TO PAY FOR THOSE DAMAGES. AND OF COURSE, IF THAT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO TO FOOT THE BILL AND TO PAY FOR ANY INSURED DAMAGE THAT MAY OCCUR TO THE SHELTER. NEXT SLIDE. SO IN TERMS OF AN IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE, THIS IS THE BEST WE WERE ABLE TO GET FROM THE COUNTY RELATIVE TO WHEN WE EXPECT THEM TO GO IN OF THE FIFTY SEVEN NEW LOCATIONS, THEY'RE SAYING THAT TWENTY FOUR WILL BE INSTALLED BETWEEN SPRING AND SUMMER OF THIS YEAR, AND THEN THE REMAINING THIRTY THREE LOCATIONS WILL BE INSTALLED BY THE SUMMER OF TWENTY TWO. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH MARTIN OUTDOOR THERE ON A MONTH TO MONTH CONTRACT WITH US BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S FLEXIBLE ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE THOSE BENCHES. WE ARE. WE'RE READY TO INSTALL. SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH MARTIN OUTDOOR JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT SCHEDULE ALIGNS WITH REMOVAL OF THE BENCHES THAT ARE EXISTING, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS AND WE DON'T WANT TO REMOVE LOCATIONS AND NOT HAVE AND NOT HAVE BENCHES AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO USE. SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH MARTIN OUTDOOR TO SEE WHEN THOSE WILL BE REMOVED SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE INSTALLATION FROM THE COUNTY. NEXT FLIGHT. THINGS LIKE THESE. SO THIS IS THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE INSTAR LOCATIONS WHICH ARE IN RED, THE THIRTY EIGHT, THE BLUE IS THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS THAT WIL HAVE FULL IMMUNITY AND THERE WILL BE TWENTY SEVEN OF THOSE. [01:10:02] AND THEN THE GREEN. IT'S A PROPOSED LOCATION WHICH WILL HAVE THE PARTIAL IMMUNITY WHICH WILL BE BANNED, TRASH CAN CRACK, WHICH WOULD BE 30 OF THOSE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ENTIRE CITY IS COVERED WITH A CONCENTRATION OF FORCE ON UNIVERSITY DRIVE. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, FROM THE EAST TO WEST SIDE OF THE CITY, WE HAVE BENCHES WHERE THERE ARE SHELTERS WITH OUR FULL OR PARTIAL THAT WILL BE INSTALLED CITYWIDE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, IS. AND JUST LASTLY, IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, SINCE THE FIRST AMENDMENT, OF COURSE, REQUIRES THE CITY TO MAINTAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK IN TERMS OF WHETHER WE HAVE STOP IN CURRENTLY THERE IS ONE STOP THAT IS AVAILABLE THAT IS MAINTAINING. BUT AS THE SHELTERS GET INSTALLED, ULTIMATELY WHEN ALL NINE TO FIVE ARE IN, THE CITY WILL NEED TO BRING ON AN ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON, ONE GROUNDSKEEPER TO ASSIST WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND ANY REPAIR, AS WELL AS WITH THE EMPTYING OUT THE TRASH CAN, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE CURRENT MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS THE SHELTERS GET INSTALLED. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS MY LAST LINE. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I CAN TAKE THEM NOW. THANK YOU, TYPICALLY VERY PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT I SEE THAT THE GREENS WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. CONSIDERING THAT THEY'RE JUST PUTTING BUS BENCHES WHERE THERE IS A RIDERSHIP, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, EVEN IF IT'S ONE PERSON I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ON THIS MEETING OR ANYONE WATCHING WANTS TO BE THAT ONE PERSON SITTING ON THE SIDEWALK WHERE I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE SIT, NOR DO WE WANT TO BE THE ONE BEING RAINED ON. THERE HAS BEEN SEVERAL REQUESTS FROM MY RESIDENTS IN DISTRICT THREE TO PUT UP A BUS BENCH AND PERHAPS A ROW ON NORTHWEST ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTH AND CONSIDERING THE SUBSTANTIAL COST TO JUST A TRASH CAN TO COST ALMOST TO WHAT, TWENTY TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A TRASH BIN. WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OR POSSIBILITY? CAN WE PUT A BUS STATION THERE AND AN ADDITIONAL ROUTE, REGARDLESS IF IT'S JUST ONE PERSON? AGAIN, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO BE THAT ONE PERSON AND. I THINK THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS, MAX MS. MEXICAN, ANSWERED IT, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED. COMMISSIONER, ARE WE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST OF BUS SHELTERS IF THE COUNTY IS NOT AMENABLE TO PUTTING A BUS SHELTER IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION? WELL, REMEMBER THE RIDERSHIP, THE ROUTE ITSELF IS BROWN COUNTY BUS TRANSIT ROUTE. SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROUTE, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ROAD AND WHERE THE STOPS WILL BE LOCATED. SO THE SHELTERS ARE GOING ON THEIR ROUTES. THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE CANNOT HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY. A GOOD THING JUST TO PUT OUT THERE IS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE SURTAX IS AVAILABLE. IT DOES FUND BUS SHELTERS AND BENCHES. AND SO IF THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES, CERTAINLY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, THE CITY CAN PUT IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND LOCATIONS IN THE CITY. WE FIND THAT THE RIDERSHIP EXISTS OR THE RIGHT OF WAY IS AVAILABLE FOR THOSE TO BE INSTALLED. SO THE FACT THAT THE FUNDING STARTUPS AND THAT WILL BE AROUND WHILE IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALWAYS LOOK AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS IN THE CITY WHERE WE CAN ADD AMENITIES AND HELP. SO THE VICE MAYOR, THE REQUEST FOR A BUS BENCH TO BE PLACED AT A PARTICULAR PARTICULAR SPOT IN HIS DISTRICT. AND I THINK I HAVE A SIMILAR REQUEST AT A LOCATION IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL. I'M NOT SURE OF THE OTHER IF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SIMILAR REQUESTS. SO MY QUESTION IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY DOES NOT IDENTIFY A CERTAIN LOCATION AS A STOP OR IDENTIFY CERTAIN LOCATION AS THOUGHT BECAUSE OF RIDERSHIP, CAN WE AS A CITY INSTALL A BUS BENCH AT A CERTAIN PLACE T TO CARE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA? COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE TO FIRST DETERMINE IF THE BUS IS STOPPING THERE BECAUSE THEY DEVELOP THE BUS ROUTE AND WHERE THE STOPS WILL BE. [01:15:05] SO IF THE BUS IS GOING I MEAN, I'M SAYING I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE PLACES THERE ARE PLACES THAT ARE NOT REALLY THAT THAT DOES NOT HAVE SHELTERS, BUT THEY ARE ALREADY DESIGNATED STOPS. OK, SO SO SO, FOR INSTANCE, ON THE OUTSIDE OF SHEIKH OR VILLAGE ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, THAT'S A STOP, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE A SHELTER. OK, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND VICE MAYOR, IF YOU COULD JUST PLEASE STAND TO ME. THOSE LOCATIONS THAT YOU BELIEVE WARRANT A BUS STOP. YES, WE CAN SEND THOSE OVER TO THE COUNTY AND HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE AMENITIES INSTALLED THERE, SEE IF YOU CAN SEND OVER TO OUR OFFICE WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE, AND WE CAN ATTEMPT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A STOP THERE. SO THEN A QUESTION FOR ALSO THE VICE MAYOR. SO THE CHAIR, THE LOCATION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IS IT A IS IT ALREADY IS THERE ALREADY A BENCH THERE OR NOTHING? IS THERE NOTHING? IS THERE. OH, SO SO IT WOULD BE THE RED ROOM TRANSIT VERSUS THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION REQUEST. THIS IS THE CITY THE CITY SHUTTLE SERVICE. RIGHT? YEAH. SO THIS REQUEST IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM MINE. THERE'S SOME PLACES IN MY DISTRICT THAT THERE ARE STOPS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BUS BENCHES WITH COVERS. OK, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THOSE LOCATIONS FOR US, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO TRY TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE RIGHT OF WAY EXIST IN THE SPACE. FOR US TO PUT IN A MINUTE THERE, SEE IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THOSE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND THEN I NOTICED THAT YOU HAD A MAP OF WHERE THE STOPS WILL BE. THE AMENITIES WILL BE, RIGHT? YES. IT'S SILENT SPRING. SO AFTER TODAY'S MEETING, CAN YOU TRY? TO US, NOT JUST THE MAP, BUT A LIST OF LOCATIONS BY CROSS STREETS, THE WANTED LIST OF ADDRESSES, I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT DOTS ON THE MAP. I WANT I WANT TO. A NUMBER ONE CROSS IS COMMERCIAL AND ROCK ISLAND NUMBER STREET, IT'S COMMERCIAL AND PINE ISLAND, SO TO SPEAK. CAN YOU DO THIS? INFORMATION IS A BACKUP TO THE ITEM. YOU ALREADY HAVE IT, BUT WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEND IT TO YOU. SO IT'S IT'S SO IN MY BACKUP I HAVE THE ADDRESS IS I'M NOT I'M NOT ABOUT. YES, YOU HAVE A LIST OF LOCATIONS AND YOU HAVE THEM OUT. YES. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SET IT SO WE CAN JUST EXTRACTED SO IT'S EASIER FOR YOU TO LOCATE. OK, MAYOR, GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE. I'M JUST GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK MY BACK UP TO SEE IF THE LOCATIONS THAT I WANT IN AN AMENITY IS IN MY BACKYARD. AND COMMISSIONER, YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE IT TELLS YOU WHAT TYPE OF SHELTER WILL BE IN THERE OR NOT. YEAH, IT'S IT'S THE EXHIBIT COMMISSIONER TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMENDMENT, IT'S THE ACTUAL EXHIBIT. AND WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER GARLAND. MAXINE, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE RIDERSHIP LEVEL IS IN TAMARA, BECAUSE OUR COUNTY SHARE THAT, OR DO YOU HAVE THAT, LIKE IN GENERAL? YEAH, SO YOU KNOW WHICH ROUTES ARE WHICH ROUTES, YOU KNOW, HAVE HIGHER USAGE VERSUS OTHERS. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE WHAT THE GENERAL USAGE IS ON A BROWARD COUNTY SHARES THAT WITH US. YES. INFORMATION THAT BEFORE. BUT I DON'T. WE CAN GET INFORMATION THAT. I CAN'T HEAR YOU THAT. WELL, NOW THAT'S INFORMATION BEFORE. BUT I BELIEVE WHAT WE HAVE IS OUTDATED SO WE CAN ASK FOR AN UPDATED RIDERSHIP DATA INFORMATION AND PROVIDE THAT TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THAT'S NOT GREAT. THANK YOU. AND SO I HAVE. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. SO, YES, I JUST WANT TO JUMP INTO MY LAST COMMENT WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND SEE IF WE CAN HAVE AN INTERNAL BUZZ AROUND A CITY BUS TRAVEL TO TO GO THROUGH ONE [01:20:06] OR EIGHT, WHICH IS THE FURTHEST SIDE OF MY DISTRIC AND WHERE THERE IS NO LOCATIONS. THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY NICE TO HAVE BOTH A BUS BENCHES WITH COVERED COVERAGE, GARBAGE AND THE RED BUS. I THINK IT'S CALLED THE RED BUS ROUTE. THANK YOU. YES, I GOT. BOLTON. YEAH, MUSCULARLY, SO MY MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO HAVE YOU SEND A LIST JUST LIKE EXHIBIT A, BUT BUT PER DISTRICT, IF YOU'RE IF YOU STAFF COULD IDENTIFY THEM PER DISTRICT, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE. A LOT OF THE ADDRESSES THAT I'M I'M LOOKING AT IS. WEST OF TATLOCK. SO A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT EASY, TAMARAC IS IS IT BECAUSE WE HAVE EASEMENT ISSUES OR IS IT BECAUSE WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT DRIVES THAT DECISION? BUT DECIDES ON LOCATION ONCE AGAIN BASED ON RITEISH, WHICH IS 10 TO 15, BORDIN ON A DAILY BASIS AT A MINIMUM. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE RIGHT AWAY MUST BE AVAILABLE TO INSTALL THE AMENITIES EITHER PARTIAL OR FULL. MY STAFF CAN GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THAT LIST AND EXTRACT THE INFORMATION BY DISTRICT AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. OK, SO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH BROWARD COUNTY ABOUT ADDING AN AMENITY AT COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND THE COMMONS. THE COMMONS IS THE ENTRANCE OF STICKABILITY. SO THAT WOULD BE. COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND THE COMMONS, AND THEN AN AMENITY AT COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD JUST EAST OF ROCK ISLAND THAT IS OUTSIDE OF MEDIAPART. AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AN AMENITY AT. COMMERCIAL IN PROSPECT, I THINK I THINK I SEE THAT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO PROSPEKT YET, SO. THE MEADOW PARK AMENITY WOULD SERVE FOR THE MAINLAND SIX AND SEVEN COMMUNITIES AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AMENITIES CLOSE TO MAYLANDS, ONE AND TWO TO SERVE FOR THOSE SENIOR COMMUNITIES. THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO THAT YOU HAVE REQUESTED THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE FULL OR NOT, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AS WELL, ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, IS THAT THIS IS FLUID AND WE ALL WANT CONFIRMATION THAT SOME OF THEM THAT ARE GOING TO POSSIBLY ONLY RECEIVE PARTIAL AMENITIES IF THE OTHER PARTIAL AMENITIES REASON FOR THE BUILDING, THEY'RE ONLY GIVING US A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO COVER IT. OR IS IT BECAUSE AT THOSE PLACES THAT ARE PARTIAL, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH? HAS IT BEEN DESIGNATED THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EASEMENT LOCATION, THAT IF YOU HAVE A PARTIAL AMENITY MEANS THAT THE RIGHT OF WA DOES NOT EXIST TO SUPPORT FULL AND THEN STOP? IS THERE A WAY AND METHODOLOGY FOR THE THUMB OF IT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY OR IF THIS PROPERTY OF OTHERS IN SOME OF THE MARKET, STATE AND COUNTY, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO REQUEST THE EXPANSION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY TO ALLOW FOR AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF SHELTER? MAYBE NOT THE BIGGEST ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING, BUT THE SMALLER ONES. WE CAN GO BACK AND CERTAINLY TELL YOU THAT OUR DESIRE IS TO HAVE FULL AMENITIES, AS MANY LOCATIONS IN THE CITY AS POSSIBLE, IN TO EXPLORE ALL OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO ALLOW FOR FULL AMENITIES SO WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE COUNTY AND TO SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF FULL AMENITIES LOCATIONS, ESPECIALLY AS THEY HOLD ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES OF OUR SURTAXES TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS FOR TRANSPORTATION. [01:25:02] YOU'LL HAVE MORE RIDERSHIP IF WE CAN KEEP OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS PEOPLE COMING THROUGH PROTECTED FROM THE ELEMENTS AND HAVING A SAFE PLACE TO BE. I ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT OUR PUBLIC SERVICES STAFF. THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB MAINTAINING THE BUS THAT THEY DO NOW. IT IS A SHAME THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT FEEL THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE A COUPLE OF STEPS OVER TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND PLACE THEIR GARBAGE INTO THE GARBAGE CAN. IT'S PEOPLE WHO I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICES WHO ARE KEEPING IT CLEAN FOR OUR PEOPLE, WHO ARE WRITING THE RESIDENTS OR WHETHER THEY'RE PEOPLE JUST VISITING OUR CITY, COMING THROUGH ON THE BUSSES. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE SUPPORT THIS AND WHATEVER ELSE. WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER. I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG TIME, A LONG TIME COMING. SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE OF AN INSTALLED SOON INVOLVED. AND I SEE YOUR HAND IS RAISED AGAIN. YEAH. MS. CALLAWAY. I NOTICED THE CITY OF MARGATE HAS ALREADY RECEIVED SOME OF THEIR SHELTERS AND AMENITIES AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. BUT THERE ARE BLUE IS THAT IT IS NOT JUST A UNIFORM THING WITH A COUNTY OR CAN WE, FOR INSTANCE, ASK THE COUNTY THAT WE WANT PURPLE? AS AN EXAMPLE, KNOW, COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE OVER THIRTY EIGHT SHELTERS ALREADY INSTALLED OR OBJECTIVE WAS TO HAVE THE NEW ONES BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COLOR AND MATERIALS THAT'S ALREADY IN. EXISTING, THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING, RIGHT? IS THAT YOUR DECISION OR IS THAT A DECISION? INITIALLY, THE SELECTION, THE PROCUREMENT, THE SELECTION OF THE COLOR, THE SELECTION OF THE TYPE OF SHELTER WAS REALLY THE COUNTY AT THE VERY BEGINNING. I THINK THEY GAVE US ONE OR TWO OPTIONS. WE CHOSE THAT ONE BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS VERY ATTRACTIVE. AND THEN NOW GOING FORWARD, THE ADDITIONAL SHELTERS WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S EXISTING. WHAT COLORS WERE YOU GIVEN AND THEY WERE THE SAME. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DESIGN INITIALLY BACK IN 2014, BUT IT WASN'T A BLUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OK. WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, SEE IF YOU CAN REVISIT THE COLOR. I MEAN, TOMAC IS VIBRANT, RIGHT. AND WE WANT TO BE DIFFERENT. AND, YOU KNOW, BLUE BUS STOPS JUST FEEL A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO SAY JUST SEE IF WE CAN GET PURPLE, YOU KNOW, AND AND BRING BRING US BACK WHAT PURPLE WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THAT IS AN OPTION SO THAT, YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES COULD DECIDE. BUT, YOU KNOW, BLUE OR CREAM OR THOSE COLORS, IT'S IS JUST REGULAR, YOU KNOW, I THINK WOULD MAKE A STATEMENT IF OUR BUS SHELTERS WERE PURPLE. OK, DID YOU HEAR THAT REQUEST? OK, ALSO THERE THERE WILL BE NO ADVERTISING, I THINK I REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION THAT THERE'LL BE NO ADVERTISING ON THESE BUS BENCHES, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. YOU KNOW, AND A PART OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, WE WOULD BE POWER WASHING OUR BUS, OUR BUS LUNCHES AND FACILITIES, NOT JUST CHANGING THE TRASH, BUT. YES, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR FULL MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. I'M NOT SURE HOW JOHN PROPOSES TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS VIBRANT THE COLOR. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING TO BE PADLOCKED. BUT, YES, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT WE ONCE A MONTH. FRANK TELLS ME THAT THEIR POWER WASH ONCE A MONTH ACTUALLY THERE. SO A CAR WASH MORE FREQUENTLY THAN THAT. IT DEPENDS ON THE USE. SOME OF THE ONES ON UNIVERSITY THAT GET A VERY HIGH USE. WE POWER WASH THEM MORE FREQUENTLY THAN ONE MONTH FOR EACH MONTH. THE ONES THAT CAN GET BY WITH ONCE A MONTH, WE DO ONCE A MONTH. BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE USE. AND SOME OF THEM ARE VERY BUSY SITES AND NEED MORE FREQUENT POWER WASHING. AND OBVIOUSLY THEY CREATE A LOT MORE TRASH. AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE EMPTY DAILY. SOME CAN BE EMPTY WEEKLY, BUT BASICALLY WE WE MAINTAIN THEM BASED ON THE USE IN THE. OK, ONE OF ONE OF OUR DUTIES, I BELIEVE, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, IS TO LOOK [01:30:04] BEYOND AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ISSUES COULD ARISE. AND ONE ISSUE THAT COULD ARISE THAT JUMPS OFF IN MY HEAD IMMEDIATELY IS, IS THE THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IN TAMRAT THAT THAT THAT ARE DISLOCATED CITIZENS WILL USE THE FACILITIES AS BEDS AND THEIR NEW HOME. WHAT IS OUR WHAT IS OUR PLAN FOR THAT? HAVE WE CONSIDERED THAT HOW WE WOULD HOW WILL WE POLICED UP THE BENCH DESIGN, I THINK HAS DIVIDERS ON IT, DOES IT NOT, MAXINE, TO NO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO LAY SIDEWAYS ON THEM? YEAH, AND THAT WAS STRATEGIC FOR THAT PURPOSE. THE DISCUSSION OCCURRED AND WE WERE CHOOSING THE DESIGN. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD DISCOURAGE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO YOU'RE CORRECT. SO THE BENCHES ARE DIVIDED INTO THREE QUAD, THREE SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO SIT, AND IT HAS LIKE IT'S NOT AN ARMREST, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BAR THAT STICKS UP. SO IT MAKES IT UNUSABLE FOR SOMEONE TO LAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BENCH. I CAN'T REMEMBER. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS AT LEAST SINCE TWENTY SIXTEEN. I CAN'T REMEMBER CHOOSING THAT DESIGN. WAS THAT WAS THAT A FUNCTION OF STAFF OR DID YOU BRING IT BACK TO US FOR CHOOSING THE DESIGN? I WAS COUNTING DESIGN, AND THIS WAS BEFORE SHE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE 2011 AGREEMENT, SO WE HAVE HAD BENCHES IN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO WHILE THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS SEVENTY NINE NEW, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IN THE VOTE, POINT THIRTY EIGHT OF MOST OF THOSE TWENTY TWO ARE IN ANOTHER 16 THAT WERE INSTALLED INSTALLED AS A RESULT OF THE 2011 AGREEMENT. SO THAT DESIGN HAS BEEN IN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE DATES I THINK YOU COMMISSIONER. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. I THINK THAT I THINK EVERYTHING PROCEEDS ALMOST ALL OF US. IT'S IT'S LIKE 10 YEARS NOW SINCE, YOU KNOW, THIS CITY IS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUS BENCHES. BUT WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE HERE NOW TO MAKE THE DECISIONS AND TO CHOOSE COLORS AND TO MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT MOVES WITH WITH OUR VISION, NOT JUST THE VISUAL STUFF. SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK. BE WITH THE COLORS AND THAT'S THE STUFF. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LET US MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PROPERLY WASHED AND CLEAN. AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE PAPER, BUT THE CITY ACTUALLY GOES OUT AND WASHES THEM AT LEAST ONCE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MAXINE. I'D JUST LIKE TO THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT PROBABLY IS NOT WITHIN YOUR REALM, BUT I'D LIKE EVERYONE TO HEAR WE NEED TO THINK A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE THE BOX HERE NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING AND I'M NOT GOING TO CALL THE BUS BENCHES, I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THEM SHELTERS. WE ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND OUR C1 CANAL BIKE PATH. AND I BELIEVE ALONG OUR BIKE PATH IN LOCATIONS LIKE THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT PARK AT EVERY LOCATION. BUT I THINK WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING BENCHES WITH SHELTERS AVAILABLE. PEOPLE ARE RIDING THEIR BIKES IN THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER. MAYBE THEY NEED TO STOP. SO I'D JUST LIKE TO THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION SO LONG AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BENCHES. THANK YOU. AND WE ATOMICALLY WITH ALL OF THEM AT THIS TIME, QUADRO, COMMISSIONER GARLAND. YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BOLTON. YES, MR. PIPES, YES, AND MAYOR GOMEZ. YES. YES. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. WHO WOULD BE GETTING BACK TO ME REGARDING A POSSIBLE ROUTE WITH THE RED BUS AND POSSIBLE VENTURES ON ONE HUNDRED AND A CITY MANAGER? [01:35:05] THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE S.R. ONE THREE FIVE FOUR FOR SISTER CITY COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS TO THE [8.d. TR13544 - Sister Cities Committee Appointments] ATTORNEY, BECAUSE WHERE THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD, NO RESOLUTION CITY COMMISSION CITY TAMARACK, FLORIDA, APPOINT APPOINTED SEVEN MEMBERS TO THE SISTER CITY COMMITTEE, SIX TERM WITH THE APPOINTMENT COMMISSION MEMBER UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WITNESS ON THE WOMAN TO BE SELECTED BY MAJORITY CITY COMMISSION TO SERVE TIME EXPIRING A 2022 UNTIL SUCH TIME IN NEWPORT NEWS MAY INVOLVE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN PREVENTING AFFECTED ME. THANK YOU, LOU CLARK. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE RECEIVED NOMINATIONS, SO TO SPEAK. YES, I DID REQUEST THAT EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS PROVIDE A POTENTIAL MEMBER AS THEIR SEVENTH MEMBER IN AN EFFORT TO POSSIBLY GET A MAJORITY. HOWEVER, EVERYONE THAT SUBMITTED NAMES SUBMITTED A DIFFERENT NAME. SO WE HAVE FOUR SELECTIONS, AND IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO READ THEM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. YES, AND MAYOR GOMEZ ELECTED JOE BOULTER, VICE MAYOR OF SELECTED THE CALIBER AFTER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER BOLTON. MR. GARLAND SELECTED KAREN FRANCESCHINI AND MR. PLECO SELECTED MéNAGE SCHULT. DO ME A FAVOR. I'M SORRY, JUST ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF PEOPLE, WILL YOU GIVE ME THAT ONE MORE TIME? SO I LEAVE AT MAYAKOBA SELECTED JOE VOLTER, VICE MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS SELECTED THE COLOR COMMISSIONER. BOLTON HAD NO RESPONSE. COMMISSIONER GARLAND SELECTED KAREN FRANCESCHINI AND COMMISSIONER PLECO SELECTED BERNARD SHAW. OK, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, DID YOU HAVE A PERSON YOU WISHED TO PRESENT US FOR DISCUSSION? I DID NOT. I DID NOT SEE THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT THAT WENT OUT. SO I GUESS THAT'S MY FAULT. OH, PLEASE COME BACK TO THIS ITEM. LET'S GO TO AN ITEM. CAN WE DISCUSS SOMETHING ELSE? IT IS CURRENTLY 11 OH EIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO BE IN RECESS UNTIL ELEVEN THIRTY. HOPEFULLY THAT'LL GIVE MR. BOLTON ENOUGH TIME. AND WE'LL BE BACK ON THE DAIS TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER WHEN WE RETURN. WE'RE NOW IN RECESS. THANK YOU. PLEASE CONFIRM WE ARE ALL. YOU'RE SURE, COMMISSIONER BOLTON? YES, YES, COMMISSIONER GARLAND GARLAND. I SEE HIM. YES. YES, AND THEY ARE GOING IT. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OK, WHEN WE LEFT FOR BREAK, WE HAD MR. BOLTON GIVING US HIS SELECTION FOR. DISCUSSION FOR THE SEVENTH PICK OF THE. SISTER CITY COMMITTEE. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE YOUR PERSON? YES, MA'AM, HERE. DO YOU HAVE YOUR PERSON THAT YOU WISH TO PRESENT? OK, SO I WAS GOING THROUGH THE THE APPLICATIONS AND DELVIN ROGERS STUCK OUT TO ME. DELVIN HAS A PROFESSIONAL AND LEADERSHIP STUDIES BACHELOR'S DEGREE. HE WENT TO COLLEGE AT FLORIDA MEMORIAL UNIVERSITY AND HAS LIVED IN TAMARACK FOR EIGHT YEARS. SO THE SKILLS THAT HE BRINGS FORWARD IS LOOKS GREAT. I MEAN, HE'S A SPECIAL TEACHER, AND I BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD BE A VERY GOOD CHOICE FOR THAT POSITION. AND I GUESS AND I BELIEVE WE ALL DO AND THAT HE'S ALREADY ON OUR LIST FOR DEPLOYMENTS. HE HAS BEEN SELECTED BY COMMISSIONER GARLAND AS HIS DISTRICT APPOINTMENT AS YOU HAVE ANOTHER PERSON, PLEASE. YES. I ALSO SPOKE WITH SHANNON. LAST NAME. [01:40:01] YEAH, I ALSO SPOKE WITH SHANNON MACK. SHE APPLIED FOR THE BOARD, BUT DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE BOARD REALLY ENTAILED. SO AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION, SPEAKING WITH HER, SHE DECLINED AN APPOINTMENT. SO SHE, YOU KNOW, DID NOT WANT TO BE APPOINTED. SO THE THE PERSON THAT I WOULD WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IS COMMISSIONER BLANCO'S APPOINTMENT, WHICH IS MENASHA. OK, AS IT SEEMS, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO WISH TO SUPPORT MENASHA EXCUSE ME, ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY, MR. GARLAND. YOU KNOW, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE ROLE OF THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE? THIS IS THE SISTER CITIES BOARD THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. SO WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE DOING? MR. WONG, ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO ASSIST US WITH THIS, PLEASE? ACTUALLY, MS.. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, LOCAL BUDGET ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD, SO THE IDEA IS FOR THE BOARD TO ACTUALLY RESEARCH THE OPTIONS THE COMMISSION IDENTIFIED FOR DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHIC GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS TO PARTNER WITH POTENTIAL SISTER CITIES. SO REALLY, THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION, AT LEAST FOR THIS PART OF THE YEAR, WILL BE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC CITIES, TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO PARTNER WITH. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THEIR ROLE SHOULD BE. I THINK AS THE COMMISSION, WE SHOULD BE THE ONES TO PICK THE SISTER CITIES AND THEN THEY SHOULD BE ENGAGED WITH, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS WITH THE STUDENTS, FACILITATING MEETINGS WITH SCHOOLS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE ROLE, AS I SEE. AND THAT'S HOW I'VE SEEN IT DONE IN OTHER CITIES. AND LIKE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TALK ABOUT HOW IT WAS DONE IN SOMETHING ELSE, BEACH TO THE CHAIR. ATTORNEY, PLEASE PROCEED. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. BASICALLY, THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY I WAS BEACH BASED ON MY RECOLLECTION, THE CITY MANAGER WORKED WITH THE COMMISSION INDIVIDUALLY. EACH MEMBER AND CERTAIN CITIES WERE SELECTED AS THE CITY. THERE WAS NO COMMITTEE AND SINGLE BEACH TO SELECT CITIES. IT WAS BASICALLY A PROCESS WHERE THE COMMISSION EITHER DIRECTED MANAGER TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE RELATED TO POTENTIAL CITY SISTER CITIES, AND THE CITY MANAGER WOULD, AFTER CONDUCTING DUE DILIGENCE, WOULD COME BACK WITH A SPINE INTO THE CITY COMMISSION AND ITS DECISION WOULD BE MADE. I BELIEVE, BASED ON MY RECOLLECTION, IT WAS SISTER CITY FROM ISRAEL AT THE TIME AS WELL. THERE WAS SISTER CITY ITALY, AND THERE WAS A SISTER CITY AND VIETNAM. SO DURING MY TENURE AS CITY ATTORNEY, THREE JUSTICES WERE SELECTED ENTIRELY BY THE CITY COMMISSION. OK, HOW HOW MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FEEL ABOUT MAKING THOSE DECISIONS OURSELVES. MY MAYOR, ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER GARLAND, I'VE GOT THIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW. I CAN ROLL FOR YOU. OK, THANK YOU. MR. BOLTON HAD HIS HAND UP. I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND PROVIDE CHANGES THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY COMMISSION TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALSO BRING BACK CHANGES WHERE THE MAYOR ONLY GETS ONE APPOINTMENT AT LARGE AND EACH COMMISSIONER GETS ONE APPOINTMENT. SO THERE WILL BE FIVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD INSTEAD OF ALL THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT I HAVE SEEN A SECOND FROM MY MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT. CALL THE ROYAL COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YES, COMMISSIONER GARLAND GARLAND, YES. [01:45:01] YES, VICE MAYOR VILLARAIGOSA, YES. AND MAYOR GOMEZ. YES. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. YOU ARE LOOKING OUT TO OUR AUDIENCE IS ON FIRST READING, WE'RE AT NINE A [9.a. TO2449 - Amending Section 15-43 "Membership" for the Parks Board] CO2 FOUR FOUR NINE AMENDING SECTION 15 DASH THREE MEMBERSHIP FOR THE PARKS BOARD, PLEASE, OF OF IRAQ. THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA. AND THEN CHAPTER 15. I TELL MY CODE AND TITLE, PARKS AND RECREATION, GO TO MS. RACING DIVISION TO PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD SECTION FIFTY THOUSAND FORTY THREE POINT EIGHT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD CONCUR WITH THEIR POINT. POINTINGS COMMISSIONER AND CHAIRMAN SHOULD BE SELECTED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO SERVE A TERM OF TWO YEARS ABOVE THE CODIFICATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND ABILITY TO PROVIDE FOR LIKE A DAY LIKE THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND PLEASE FORGET ABOUT HAVING A MOMENT OF FIRST MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A SECOND SO I CAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PAKULAK DIRECTOR GREG WARNER. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD, GREG WARNER, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. AND THIS ITEM IS TO AMEND TO AMEND THE CODE FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION SECTION. IT'S MORE OF A HOUSEKEEPING CLEANUP CLEANUP ITEM. AND THE FIRST PORTION OF THIS IS TO TO AMEND SECTION 15, DASH FORTY THREE, THE MEMBERSHIP TO THE BOARD AND MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH SECTION TWO, DASH NINE, A WITH ALL THE OTHER. WANT TO MAKE EACH OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD NO CONCURRENT WITH THEIR APPOINTING COMMISSIONER OR ANY TIME THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE REPLACED. SO YOU'RE TAKING THAT ONE YEAR FOR AN APPOINTMENT THAT CURRENTLY IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION SECTION TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD'S AND CONCURRENT WITH WITH THE COMMISSION APPOINTMENT APPOINTEES, AS WELL AS WITH THE HISTORICALLY AND PROBABLY THE LAST TIME THIS WAS DONE, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, THE COMMISSION USED TO APPOINT THE CHAIR OF THE ADVISORY BOARD. THIS CODE AMENDMENT WILL MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER BOARDS TO WHERE THE THE SITTING MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD WILL WILL SELECT A CHAIR. AND THAT CHAIR, BASED ON THIS CODE CHANGE, WILL SERVE FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS. THOSE ARE THE TWO TWO CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? NOT BAD. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED BY MAYOR. THANK YOU, AMERICA. I'D LIKE TO BRING UP SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED DURING THE TRANSITION FROM THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONER TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS WITH BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN SERVING FOR YEARS. LET'S SAY THEY SERVE FOR FOUR OR FIVE, 10 YEARS AND THEY'RE NOT BEING RECOGNIZED. I THINK I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WHERE THE VOLUNTEERS ARE BEING TOLD THE DAY OF THAT, HEY, YOU'RE NO LONGER ON THE BOARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. GOODBYE. WITHOUT EVEN HAVING A FAREWELL PARTY PER SAY. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXTRAVAGANT PARTY. IT CAN BE JUST A THANK YOU GIFT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FOR YOUR TIME. I COULD BE A GIFT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION AS A THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BUT THE WAY THAT HAS BEEN HANDLED IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS AND YEARS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S VERY UNFAIR FOR A COMMUNITY MEMBER TO SERVE AND NOT EVEN BE RECOGNIZED. SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW I'M NOT SURE WHO WHO THIS QUESTION GOES TO, BUT WE DO NEED TO SOLIDIFY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE THANKING THEM VERSUS THEM BEING KICKED OUT BECAUSE THERE'S A NEW COMMISSIONER ON THE BOARD ON THE DAIS. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THROUGH THE PARK DEPARTMENT CAN WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER. I AND I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS EVERY YEAR, EXCEPT WE HAD A MODIFICATION THIS YEAR. WE DO HAVE A THANK YOU FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS AND OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS EVERY YEAR AND EVERY YEAR. THEY ARE RECOGNIZED IN SOME FORM AND FASHION. SO PLEASE DO KNOW THAT WE DO TAKE OUR VOLUNTEERS AND OUR COMMITTEES AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS VERY SERIOUSLY, AND WE APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH AS WE'RE DOING A NICE [01:50:04] TRANSITIONAL THING. THAT IS A GOOD SUGGESTION THAT CAN BE WORKED ON THROUGH MANAGEMENT. AND YOU HAD ANOTHER RECALL? YEAH, IT WAS JUST IT HAPPENED TO HAPPEN TWICE, I GUESS, ON A PARK AND REC BOARD OR. NO, NOT A PARK. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER BOARD THAT MAXINE WAS INVOLVED WITH, WHICH ONE IT WAS. BUT THE SUGGESTION AND BE HANDLED. MR. BOLTON, YES. MAYOR GREG, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CHAIR SERVING TWO YEAR TERMS THAT WOULD BE SELECTED BY A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD. I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE HAVE THE CHAIR POSITION ROTATE. SO IN THE PAST, BOARD MEMBERS COMPLAINED AND IT BECAME A LITTLE BIT CONTENTIOUS AS TO WHO CHAIR A CHAIR SHOULD BE. FOR INSTANCE, PERCY JOHNSON, I THINK HE WAS ON THE BOARD FOR MAYBE EIGHT OR 10 YEARS AND NEVER SERVED AS CHAIR UNTIL THERE WAS A TURNOVER OF MEMBERS. AND HE FINALLY GOT A CHANCE TO SERVE, TO SERVE AS CHAIR. AND THEN DURING HIS YEAR OF BEING CHAIR, COVID HAPPENED. AND THEN SO MEETINGS DID NOT OCCUR. AND THEN RIGHT AFTER COALGATE HAPPENED, VICE MAYOR VILLA LOBOS MADE A NEW APPOINTMENT AND THEN HE WAS NOT ON THE BOARD. SO THEN I JUST THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNFAIR TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS CHAIR AND NOT GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD THAT HAS BEEN CHAIRS FOR YEARS AND NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO OTHER MEMBERS. SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE RIGHT TO ADD LANGUAGE THAT THE THAT THE CHAIR POSITION BE A ROTATING POSITION AND AND IT ROTATES EVERY TWO YEARS TO SOMEONE ELSE AND THAT THE CHAIR CANNOT PROCEED OR WHAT'S THE WORD PROCEED ITSELF. BUT I THINK IT IS. WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO THOSE CHANGES, GREG? YES, I'M FINE WITH THAT. I YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT. AND I THINK THE THINGS PEOPLE DO WANT TO SERVE IN THAT THAT ROLE. I AGREE WITH YOU. OK, SO IF IT'S AMENABLE TO MY COLLEAGUES, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD LANGUAGE THAT HAS THE CHAIR POSITION ROTATE AND THAT THE CHAIR CANNOT WHAT'S WHAT'S THE WORD ON. SO SO I WAS VICE MAYOR, BUT I COULD NOT BECOME VICE MAYOR AGAIN BECAUSE I WAS JUST VICE MAYOR. WHAT WHAT IS THAT TERM? I THINK YOU USE THE RIGHT TIME TO THE CHAIR POSITION, ROTATE AMONG THE MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE MEMBERS SERVE AS CHAIR. YEP. AND AND AND ONCE I'M CHAIR THAT THESE LAST TWO YEARS, I CAN'T BE CHAIR FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. YEAH. IF YOU HAVE A ROTATION BASIS, IT WILL IT WILL CAPTURE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO CAPTURE. SO IT SHOULD ROTATE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY BOARD MEMBER HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS CHAIR BEFORE ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER. MEMBERS REPEAT REPEAT AS CHAIR. SO THE ROTATION WILL CAPTURE THAT. OK, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DENNIS. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY REGARDING EACH OTHER JUST TO. YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, I THINK WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO WAS THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT THE CHAIR TO BE ABLE TO SUCCEED. IS THERE HERSELF? THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR? YEAH. YEAH, YEAH, EXACTLY. SO THAT'S THE LANGUAGE I'M LOOKING FOR. THE CHAIR WOULD BE ROTATED EVERY TWO YEARS AND THE CHAIR CANNOT SUCCEED HIMSELF AND AND THEN PUT A SUCCESSION LANGUAGE IN THERE. SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS BECOME VICE PRESIDENT, FIRST VICE PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT. NO, THAT'S THE STUFF. SO THE SECOND VICE PRESIDENT AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES FIRST FIRST CHAIR THE NEXT YEAR AND THEN THE FIRST CHAIR BECOMES CHAIR THE NEXT TIME THEY'RE IN A LOCATION THERE. THERE IS A ROTATION AND PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S GOING TO BE CHAIR NEXT WEEK. [01:55:02] NO, I'M SORRY THERE. MAY I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, PLEASE, COMMISSIONER? YOU'VE STATED FOR THE CHAIR TO SERVE FOR TWO YEARS. THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IS IT'S ELECTIVE ANNUALLY. SO ARE YOU NOW REQUESTING THAT THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THESE PERSONS BEING NO LONGER THE THE THE LANGUAGE ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD THAT THE CHAIR DOES TWO YEARS? THE CHAIR WOULD HAVE A TERM OF TEN YEARS, RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. CURRENTLY IT'S ONE YEAR. BEING CHANGED TO TWO YEARS OLD, NOT AS IT'S WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE SAYS THE CITY COMMISSION, S APPOINT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR TERMS BEFORE THE APPOINTED COMMISSIONER FOR MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION SHALL MEET ANNUALLY AND APPOINT A CHAIR. THIS IS ONLY IN THERE, THOUGH I'M NOT CARING TO SAY EITHER WAY, BUT THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE IS NOT AS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR IT TO BE CLEANER. MAYOR, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE NEED THE LANGUAGE WHERE THE CHAIRS OF THE ONE YEARS THAT IT'S LOCATED AMONG MEMBERS AND THAT THERE IS A SUCCESSION PLAN THAT GOES THERE. SO IT'S LIKE THE VICE CHAIR VOTES TO FIRST. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT THE PERMISSIBLE YOU WANT TO TURN TO ONLINE DISCUSSIONS, WHICH MAY BE TURNED INTO MOTION, SO TO SPEAK. OK. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT WILL TALK. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE THEY ARE AMENABLE TO WHAT I'M SAYING. OK, THANK YOU. AS WE GO THROUGH, WE'LL FIND OUT. YEAH. COMMISSIONER PLAKA, THANK YOU. OK, A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, YES, I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE THAT ROTATION SO EVERYBODY DOES GET A CHANCE IF THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO. SO I'M OK WITH THAT. BUT I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT THE VICE MAYOR WAS SAYING. I THINK AND THIS IS NOT JUST FOR PARKS. THIS IS FOR ALL OUR COMMITTEES. I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB. WHEN I SEE THIS CHANGE, WHEN NEW SOMEONE NEW COMES IN AND THEY APPOINT SOMEONE NEW TO A COMMITTEE, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PLAN IN PLACE THAT THE PERSON WHO IS BEING REPLACED DOES NOT SHOW UP FOR A MEETING, NOT KNOWING THAT THEY'VE BEEN REPLACED. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PARTY OR A GIFT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE OUR LUNCHEONS EVERY YEAR. BUT WE NEED TO ENSURE THESE PEOPLE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THAT THEIR SERVICE HAS BEEN APPRECIATED. HOWEVER, THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE AND NOT THAT THEY'RE EMBARRASSED AND SHOW UP FOR A MEETING AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? AS WELL AS THE NEW PERSON SHOWING UP. AND THEY ARE EMBARRASSED. SO I NEED I NEED TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ON ANY OF OUR COMMITTEES. I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT PARKS, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER NOLAN. YEAH. SO TO RESPOND TO VICE MAYOR BILL LOBO'S, I SERVED MANY YEARS AGO ON THE INSURANCE ADVISORY BOARD. AND AT THE END OF MY TERM, I WAS GIVEN A NICE PLAQUE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN MY OFFICE NOW. AND THERE WAS A CELEBRATION AT THE TIME THE MAYOR WAS BETH TELEVIS GO. SO I DID GET A NICE SENDOFF. I THINK WE HAD A NICE LUNCH MEETING AT THE WOMEN'S COUNTRY CLUB. SO FROM MY RECOLLECTION, THERE WAS A NICE SENDOFF FOR THOSE THAT SERVED ON VARIOUS BOARDS. PRETTY SURE THEY DO THAT NOW. BUT IF NOT, THEN, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, I GUESS YOU NEED A FULLER ORIENTATION TO WHAT WHAT THE CITY DOES AND ALL LEVELS. SO YOU HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING. SO I GUESS WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF YOUR ORIENTATION NEEDS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE UP TO DATE ON ON ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE CITY DOES, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO RESIDENTS VERSUS CITY OPERATIONS, BECAUSE YOU ARE CONCERNED AND YOU REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS. AND THEN REGARDING THE CHANGE THAT MAYOR BOLTON WAS SUGGESTING, I'M OK WITH THAT, EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE BEING THE LEADER. AND SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME LANGUAGE WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE CAN DENY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YEAH, WHAT DID I SAY? OH, YEAH, SO THAT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE CHAIR IF THEY [02:00:02] DON'T WANT TO BE THE CHAIR. YES. OR THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. MARY, THANK YOU. AND WHILE I AGREE THAT WITH COMMISSIONER GARLAND, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO SERVE ON THESE COMMITTEES, WE DO NOT WISH TO BE THE CHAIR, DO NOT WANT TO ROTATE INTO IT. SO UNLIKE THE OTHER WORLDS THAT WERE GOING BY, I THINK THAT THAT THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, UNDERSTANDABLY NOT TO BE THE SECOND. BUT IF YOU HAVE ONLY FIVE PEOPLE ON A BOARD AND NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO IT, THEN AT LEAST IT'S THE BOARD'S DETERMINATION FOR THAT VERSUS SOMEBODY ALWAYS SITTING IN THE SEAT. AND AS FAR AS PEOPLE COMING OFF THEIR COMMITTEES, I ALSO THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON THOSE OF US WHO, WHEN WE'RE IN OFFICE, WE CONGRATULATE THEM AND HAVE THEM COME IN. IF WE'RE LEAVING OFFICE, I THINK IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE PEOPLE. WHAT THE NEW PERSON COMING IN TO SAY SOMETHING TO PEOPLE. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE, BUT I'M SELECTING SOMEONE ELSE. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. IT'S NOT JUST TO BE PUT ON OUR STAFF AND THE BOTTOM. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE THERE COULD BE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IF THE PERSON DOES NOT WANT TO SERVE, THAT IS NEXT IN THE ROTATION, THEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT PERSON THAT IS IN LINE. I WANT TO TO ADD THAT THE ROTATION STARTS AT PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT YET SERVED AS CHAIR. SO IF SOMEBODY HAS SERVED AS CHAIR BEFORE THEN, THEN, GREG, START THE ROTATION AT SOMEBODY WHO HAS NOT SERVED YET, AT LEAST GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THEY WANT TO SERVE AS CHAIR OR THEY DON'T WANT TO SERVE AS CHAIR, THEN GO TO THE NEXT PERSON. SO IF SO, IF YOU HAVE SERVED AS CHAIR BEFORE, WHEN THIS LEGISLATION PASSES, YOU WILL NOT BE GIVEN FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS CHAIR. IT IS THAT THE ROTATION STARTS WITH SOMEBODY WHO WAS NOT YET SERVED AS CHAIR, THAT THAT WILL BE THE COMMISSIONER. NONE OF THE NONE OF THE FIVE CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD HAVE EVER SERVED AS CHAIR, SO. OH, GOOD. WHERE WERE THE FIVE ON THE BOARD. NOW IT'S BARBARA TURN-OFF. BARRY HARRIS. I'M SORRY FOR OUR FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE HAVE NOT SERVED. SO I STAND CORRECTED. BARRY HARRIS. AND WE HAVE CARL WILLIAMS. AND THAT'S ANOTHER KARL KARL, THAT THE VICE MAYOR APPOINTED, AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER GARLAND APPOINTMENT, AND I' DRAWING A BLANK AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. COMMISSIONER GARLAND HAS NATASHA. OH, SORRY. YEAH. SO BARRY HARRIS HAS SERVED AS CHAIR FOR HOW LONG? HE'S BEEN IN THERE FOR A WHILE. AND HE WRITES HE WILL HE WILL NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY UNTIL THE OTHER ONE. RIGHT. SO HE WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE ROTATION, CORRECT. CORRECT. OK, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. OK, SO AT THIS TIME, I AM. ASKING FOR A ROLL CALL BASED ON THE ORDINANCE BEING AMENDED BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING TO INCORPORATE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO MAKE THE CHAIRMAN AND CHAIRMAN BOTH CHAIRMEN AND A ROTATING POSITION FOR IT'S NOT BE DUPLICATED UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT ALL PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ONCE AROUND. AND UNLESS THERE'S SOME REASON FOR IT TO BE BACK TO BACK, WHICH WILL BE HANDLED BY THE BOARD ITSELF, WELL, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION THAT YOU PASSED MADE THE MOTION. I THOUGHT NO. AND I, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND IT. SO LET ME MAKE THE MOTION THAT WAS RECAPPING, BECAUSE GOD MIGHT ALSO INDICATE THAT THE CHAIRMANSHIP IS A ONE YEAR TERM. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY THE RECORD. YES. SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO TO SUPPORT THE THE ITEM WITH CONSIDERATIONS OF THE DISCUSSION THAT IS THE CHAIRMAN SERVES A ONE TERM, CANNOT SUCCEED HIS OR HERSELF TO NOT SERVE FIRST CHAIR IF HAVE ALREADY SERVED AS CHAIR. [02:05:06] AND THAT IS THE ROTATION WITH THE NEXT IN LINE, KNOWING THAT HE OR SHE WILL SERVE AS CHAIR NEXT. SO YOU'LL HAVE SECOND CHAIR, FIRST CHAIR AND CHAIR POSITION. OK, SO THAT IS THE MOTION AND THE MOTION AS AMENDED, AND WE CAN CALL THE ROLL NOW BY THE MAYOR, IF THAT'S A PLEASURE. CAN WE GET A SECOND? I NEED A SECOND CITY CLERK TO THANK YOU FOR OUT. YES, COMMISSIONER BLACK, YES, FACE, MAYBE A LITTLE OF US. YES. MR. BOLTON. BUT YOU'RE BOTH IN. SOMEBODY MUTED ME AS I WAS AS I WAS GOING TO TALK. SO, YES, THANK YOU. AND MAYOR GOMEZ. YES, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [11.a. TO2445 - Creation and Codification of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Advisory Board] WE ARE NOW MOVING TO ORDINANCE 11, A C O TWO FOR FOUR OR FIVE SECOND, MEANING CREATION OR DOES SECOND MEANING CREATION OF CARD VERSUS THE INCLUSION ADVISORY BOARD, THE ACRONYM. WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE RECORD? THANK YOU. AND ALL THIS IS CITY COMMISSION ON CIVIL RIGHTS LAW, MEANING CHARTER CHANGE, MINISTRATION ARTICLE THREE BOARDS, COMMITTEE COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY CODE, ORDINANCE BY GREEN DIVISION FOR DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION ADVISORY BOARD PROVIDE FOR CONFLICTS ONE POSSIBILITY, ONE FOR QUALIFICATION AND PROVIDE FOR 30 DAYS. THANK YOU, MADELEINE. THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION IN SECOND, SO I MOVED. BACK IN NEW YORK CITY, CLERK, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? THERE ARE NOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE NOW CLOSED SAYING NO DISCUSSION BY THIS COMMISSION AND PLEASE CALL THE ROLL INTO THE WORLD WHERE NO ONE WOULD BE VICE MAYOR. I THINK IT WAS LOVELY. YES. MR. POCHO, YES. MR. BOLTON, YES, MR. GARLAND, YES, AND GOMEZ. YES, THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU. [13.a. Fire Station #36 - "Dalmation" Sculpture] WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO 13 A UNDER OTHER FIRESTATION. THIRTY SIX DALMATIANS SCULPTURE. AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MAXINE KELLY, I WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR YES. YOU MAY REMEMBER THE COMMISSION. WE HAVE AN UPDATE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GAIN YOUR CONSENSUS THIS MORNING ON THE DALMATIAN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AT FIRESTATION. THIRTY SIX. I HAVE BETH RAVIC AND GEORGE GATSON THAT ARE ON AND THEY WILL DELIVER THE UPDATE AND PRESENTATION. BETHEN GEORGE. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMISSIONERS', GEORGE GAZZO, AGATSTON AND RAVICH. JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THE STATION THERE ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AFFORESTATION. THIRTY SIX WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THE SUGGESTION BY COMMISSIONER PLECO ACTUALLY WAS THAT POSSIBLY OUR ENTERTAINING LOOKING AT MAYBE SOME ART TO GO ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE AND THAT LOCATION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS A PRETTY MUCH A FAST TRACK PROJECT. TYPICALLY, WE WOULD DO A CALL TO ARTISTS, NATIONAL CALL TO ARTISTS. BUT BECAUSE OF IT BEING A FAST TRACK AND AS WAS ALLUDED EARLIER IN TODAY'S COMMISSION MEETING, PRETTY MUCH THE PROJECT IS THE BUILDING IS ALREADY DONE SO IN NOVEMBER OF TWENTY TWENTY. AND I WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF LANGUAGE FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, WE COMPOSED A A DIRECT INVITATION TO ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN ARTISTS AS OPPOSED TO DOING A NATIONAL CALL. THESE PARTICULAR ARTISTS THAT WE INVITED WAS TO SEE IF THERE WAS AN INTEREST ON THEIR PART. WE RECEIVE COMMENTS AND RESPONSES FROM THOSE ARTISTS AND ULTIMATELY THERE [02:10:01] WERE THREE ARTISTS WHO DID RESPOND. AND WE BROUGHT THOSE THREE ARTISTS BEFORE THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. AND THE ARTISTS THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY IS THE ARTISTS THAT THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING. THIS PARTICULAR ARTIST, HIS NAME IS CELSO GONZALEZ. HE WAS FORMERLY WITH THE HEAD DESIGNER WITH THE COMPANY, SEVERAL DESIGN, WHO, BY THE WAY, IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT THE COMPANY, RATHER, THAT ACTUALLY DID THE THE BENCHES THAT WE ARE ENJOYING HERE IN OUR CITY, PARTICULARLY FROM OUR CITY HALL. SO THAT BEING SAID, HE RESPONDED, WE TOOK HIS DESIGN, ALONG WITH TWO OTHERS TO THE COMMITTEE TO FOR CONSIDERATION. AND WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU TODAY HIS DESIGN FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU WISH TO COMMENT ON YOUR LOCATION AND I'LL HAVE THAT KIND OF DESCRIBE THE SITE AND LOCATION. OK, GEORGE AND I PRESENT IT WHEN WHEN COMMISSIONER POLACCO HAD A DESIRE FOR THIS PROJECT, WE DID SOME RESEARCH AND WE PRESENTED FROM ACROSS THE NATION DIFFERENT PUBLIC ART PROJECTS THAT WERE DONE AT OTHER FIRE STATIONS ACROSS THE NATION. AND ONE OF THEM HAD A DALMATIAN DOG, WHICH, AS WE ALL KNOW, IS AN ICONIC IMAGE OF FIRE STATIONS AND THE COMMITTEE AND COMMISSIONER POLACCO REALLY LOVE TO DO IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. A LITTLE HUMOR, A LITTLE WHIMSY. AND WE DECIDED TO GO TO ASK THREE ARTISTS TO SPECIFICALLY DESIGN FOR THAT. AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THIS IMAGE THAT WAS CHOSEN BY CELSO GONZALEZ, IT WOULD BE A CONCRETE ARMATURE AND IT WOULD BE MOSAIC TILE, JUST LIKE THE BENCHES, THE BENCHES THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE CITY. AND THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT THIS THAT WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH, IT'S A THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLAR BUDGET AND SO HAS SAID HE HIS SCULPTURE WILL BE 16 FEET HIGH, WHICH MAKES IT IN ITSELF A REALLY FUN PHOTO OP WE FELT FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN WHEN THEY COME TO VISIT THE FIRE STATION. AND BEING THAT IT'S NOT ON UNIVERSITY, IT'S ON THE SIDE STREET, IT WILL STILL BE SO LARGE THAT IT WILL MAKE A VERY BIG IMPACT. WE FELT AND HERE YOU CAN SEE IT IN RELATION TO PEOPLE, WHICH SHOWS YOU THE SCALE. THE OTHER THING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED AND JUST GO BACK ONE, GEORGE, WAS THAT THE DOG HAVE A COLLAR AND A TAG THAT SAYS FIRE STATION NUMBER THIRTY SIX. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. EXLINE. THE INSTALLATION WILL BE THREE TO FOUR WEEKS, AND GEORGE, WHAT DID HE SAY? I FORGOT HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE AND ONCE THE ONCE THE SIGNING OF THE CONTRACT TAKES PLACE, THIS IS THE TIME FRAME FOR FOR THE FABRICATION AND THE INSTALLATION, THE THREE TO FOUR WEEKS. I'D LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT THE THE CONTRACT IS UNDERWAY. WE'RE NOW WAITING FOR, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET YOUR BLESSING AND YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT HE HAS BEEN APPRIZED IN TERMS OF GETTING HIS PAPERWORK TOGETHER. SO IF AND WHEN IT IS APPROVED, HE THEN CAN PROVIDE WHAT'S NECESSARY TO THE CONTRACT MANAGER AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT MUCH, MUCH HOLD UP. I'D LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT THE PROCESS TOOK PLACE AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHIEF, THE FIRE CHIEF, AS WELL AS THE FIREFIGHTERS, BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY MUCH AN INTEGRAL PART OF REALLY GIVING SOME FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY FELT WAS BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE THING ON THAT SITE. THOSE ARE COMMENTS, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE OPEN OURSELVES FOR COMMENTS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ADD, GEORGE HAS MENTIONED IT, WE DID MEET WITH THE CHIEF AND ALLOW HIM TO GO BACK AND TALK TO HIS STAFF TO ENSURE THAT OUR IDEA OF WHIMSY WAS OK WITH THEM. AND THEY LIKE THE IDEA. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, FOR YEARS THE FIRE STATION HAS HAD THIS DALMATIAN IMAGE. THEY GO OUT TO THE SCHOOLS WITH THEIR THEIR COSTUME OF THE DALMATIAN. SO WE WANTED TO PLAY OFF THAT. INITIALLY, WHEN I STARTED THIS CONVERSATION, I HAD A VISION OF SOMETHING ON THE [02:15:02] ROOF OF THE FIRE STATION BECAUSE IT DOES SETBACK, BUT BECAUSE OF THE VISIBILITY ISSUES THAT WE COULD INCUR BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF IT. I WAS CONVINCED THAT THIS WAS A BETTER IDEA. AND THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THIS WILL ALLOW THE SCHOOLS TO BRING THE CHILDREN TO THE FIRE STATION FOR TOURS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE 16 FOOT DONATION FOR PHOTO OPS. SO I THINK IT WILL ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY ENGAGE THE CHILDREN. SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF WHIMSY IS OK SOMETIMES. SO I HOPE EVERYBODY ELSE LIKES IT. BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT. I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SUPER. I ALSO DID SUGGEST SOMEWHERE IN THAT VICINITY, MAYBE HAVE A BENCH OR SOMETHING SO PARENTS COULD SIT, THE KIDS COULD PLAY WITH THE DOG OR WHATEVER. SO WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR FUTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR COMMITTEE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I HEARD BY STREET, WHICH, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT MANY DRIVERS GO THROUGH THERE. I JUST HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE LOCATION, WHY NOT ON THE CORNER OR EVERYONE CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY IT. AND I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER POLAKOV COMMENTS, AND I THINK IT'S GREAT TO. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING BEING BUILT ON THAT CORNER AND I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE AT LEAST FOUR FLOORS HIGH. THE ONLY RESIDENTS OR ANYONE DRIVING BY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IS THE FOLKS DRIVING EAST ON THAT ROAD. BUT ALSO MY NEXT COMMENT GOES TO I UNDERSTAND CONDEMNATION GOES BACK TO FIRE-FIGHTING. THERE'S A CORRELATION WITH DALMATIANS AND FIREFIGHTING, BUT IT DID REPRESENT A FIREFIGHTER VERSUS A DALMATIAN. I MEAN, IT'S A DONE DEAL, BUT WE'RE GOING BACK TO TRADITIONS AND ELIMINATING CERTAIN THINGS FOR THE FUTURE. I THINK A FIREFIGHTER THAT'S 60 FEET TALL WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE THAN A DOG JUST LIKES TO. THANK YOU. MR. GAGNON. YEAH, SO I'M READING A LITTLE PRESENTATION HERE, IT SAYS THE IDEA WITH THIS PIECE IS FOR THE FIRE STATION TO CREATE AN ICON THAT CAN BE RECOGNIZABLE AND RELATABLE TO THE COMMUNITY, A PIECE THAT CAN BE ACCESSIBLE FOR OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCALS AND VISITORS. SO I DON'T LIKE THE PIECE. I CAN'T RELATE TO IT. YOU KNOW, A BIG OLD DOG IN THE MIDDLE OF SOME CORNER SOMEWHERE. MAYBE THERE WILL BE A BETTER PIECE AT THE DOG PARK. BUT I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE PIECE ART QUESTION FOR OUR CONSULTANTS. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN CONSULTING WITH THE CITY OF TAMARAC? SINCE TWENTY. FIFTEEN. OK, AND HOW MANY LOCAL ARTISTS AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ENGAGED IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. HOW MANY LOCAL ARTISTS HAVE THE PLANNING BOARD SELECTED FOR A PROJECT? I HAVEN'T COUNTED, BUT GEORGE AND I ARE VERY, VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT, WE ARE GREAT ART ADVOCATES, WE ARE ARTISTS OURSELVES AND WE ARE SOUTH FLORIDA ARTISTS. SO WE HAVE A REALLY WIDE NET FOR LOCAL ARTISTS. RUBEN OBIERO CREATED ON THE FOR THE AT CITY HALL, AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. SO A LADY JUSTICE AND RUBEN IS A WESTERN ARTIST. GEORGE, HELP ME OUT HERE. WHO ELSE HAVE WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER GARLAND THE PROCESS AS A YOU AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE, IS THIS AS A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM? YOU KNOW, IT'S THE THE INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS WHO ARE INVITED OR SELECTED TO, IF YOU WILL, OF ARTISTS WHO HAVE A PORTFOLIO THAT THE COMMITTEE REVIEWS AND CAN SHOW THAT THEY HAVE DONE PROJECTS OF THE MAGNITUDE AS NOT ONLY JUST FOR BUDGET, BUT ALSO FOR SIZE IN INVOLVING THE LOCAL ARTISTS. AS ALWAYS, ACTORS ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE OUR DESIRE. THE THE CATCH 22 IS FINDING THOSE LOCAL ARTISTS WHO ARE AT THE LEVEL OF BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE THE TYPE OF ARTWORK THAT IS NECESSARY FOR CERTAIN LARGE BUDGET [02:20:02] ITEMS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THESE ARE PUBLIC BUT NOT PUBLIC DOLLARS. BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE CAUTIOUS THAT THE WORK THAT WILL BE PRODUCED WILL BE TO THE LEVEL THAT IS EXPECTED BY THE CITY. SO FINDING THOSE ARTISTS WHO CAN RESPOND AND DELIVER AT THE LEVEL THAT'S NECESSARY TO GIVE THE QUALITY WORK THAT'S NEEDED. JUST TO ADD TO THAT, BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER WANTED TO KNOW JUST OTHER LOCAL PIECES OR VETERANS MEMORIAL. THAT'S ALSO LOCAL ARTISTS AND BOTH BETTY AND GEORGE, BEFORE THEY WERE BEFORE THEY WERE COMMISSIONED TO TO DO THIS WORK FOR US. THEY THEMSELVES PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM AND OUR LOCAL ARTISTS AS WELL. THEIR PIECES ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BACK EAST AT THE SAME PARK WITH THE METRO MEMORIAL. AND OF COURSE, GEORGE ESPY'S IS OVER. NOT NOT IN THAT PART THAT'S ADJACENT TO AN ISLAND AT MATANA. SO WE HAVE AND ALSO NEXT WEEK. SO LET ME ADD THAT THE FENCE AT SUNSET POINT PARK IS ALSO ONE OF THE LARGEST TO CONDOS AND THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO HOPEFULLY SELECT A GC TO CONSTRUCT IT AT SUNSET POINT PARK IS ALSO A LOCAL ARTIST, AND THAT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT. SHE'S A LOCAL ARCHITECT, SLASH PUBLIC ARTIST. AND AGAIN, FORGIVE ME, I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THE QUESTION, SO I JUST GAVE IT TO ME. BUT NOW I'M COMING UP OF MEMORY THERE. IF I ALSO MIGHT ADD A COMMISSIONER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BETH AND I, AGAIN, WE ARE ADVOCATES FOR THE ARTIST, BUT AT THE SAM TIME, WE ARE CONSULTANTS TO THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT THE QUALITY OF THE WORK IS IS U TO SCALE. AND WHEN IT MAKES SENSE, LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC ART PROJECT, THERE'S A DESIGN, AS REFERENCED, THAT THE MARKEL CONDO, WHO IS A LOCAL SOUTH FLORIDA ARTIFACTS, HE PROVIDED THE THE THE DRAWINGS, IF YOU WILL, AND THEN WE DIRECT IT AND FINE TUNE THEM SO AS TO ACCOMMODATE THE LOCATION TO WHERE THEY WOULD GO. SO WE DID THAT FOR A COUPLE OF PARKS WITH ARTISTS THAT PREVENTED THE LOCAL ARTISTS HAVE PRESENTED THEIR DESIGNS AND THEN THOSE DESIGNS WERE FINE TUNED AND PLACED FOR FENCING AROUND THE CITY. PARKS COMMISSIONER WAS TOTALLY SOUTH FLORIDA ONLY FOR FENCE DESIGNS AND THREE ARTISTS WERE SELECTED. MARCO WAS ONE, GEORGETTE'S FONDLES IS ANOTHER. AND THAT'S THE WATER'S EDGE FENCE THAT ALREADY HAS BEEN COMPLETED FOR THE SPLASH PAD. WE'RE ABOUT TO DO THE TOP FLOOR, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS WE ARE GREAT ADVOCATES FOR SOUTH FLORIDA ARTISTS BECAUSE WE AGREE WITH YOU. IT'S OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY SHOULD BE INVITED FIRST. SO WE'RE COGNIZANT. WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO DO THAT. OK, ON. SO SO SO YOU SAID THAT ARTISTS WERE SELECTED, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WHEN THE CITY ISSUES IN RFP, IT JUST OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC AN ANYONE WHO FEELS THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE THE SERVICES, THEN THEY CAN JUST ASK YOU RFQ REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT GOES OUT IN RFQ. AND ARTISTS THAT WANT THE PROJECT SUBMIT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, WHICH ARE SPECIFIED IN THE DRAFT CALL FOR ARTISTS. OK. AND THEN YOU SELECT FROM THAT POOL. YES. AND THEY ARE IS 100. THEY PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT'S BEING REQUIRED BECAUSE AGAIN, WE BRING BEFORE THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE THE THE SHORT LIST, IF YOU WILL IF WE GET A LARGE NUMBER, KNOWING SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS IS LOOKING FOR AND THE ARTISTS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THIS GAME, IF YOU WILL, FOR SOME TIME, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PORTFOLIO THAT INCLUDES NICE SLIDES, NICE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE WORKS THEY'VE DONE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE OR OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND IN CONNECTING TO THAT PORTFOLIO IN THE PHOTOS OR ACTUAL BUDGETS. SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FOR THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLAR BUDGET OR FOR ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR BUDGET OR TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR BUDGET, THE ARTWORK THAT IS [02:25:01] SHOWN IN THEIR PORTFOLIO TRULY WOULD REFLECT THAT. AND OF COURSE, WHEN NEED BE, WE ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP WITH REFERENCES. SO THERE ARE NOT MANY LOCAL ARTISTS THAT WE FELT COULD DO THIS. AND SO WE, OF COURSE, WENT THROUGH THE CALL TO ARTISTS THAT HAD SUBMITTED SOME TIME BEFORE AND THOSE PORTFOLIOS. AND WE SAW THE A STATUE THAT THIS PARTICULAR ARTIST HAD DONE IN PUERTO RICO, KNOWING ALSO THAT HE AND HIS TEAM HAD ALSO DONE THE BENCH. SO WE WEREN'T TAKING A GAMBLE BECAUSE WE KNEW THE PRODUCT THAT HE WOULD DELIVER. AND COMMISSIONER VILLA-LOBOS AND GARLAND. LET ME JUST A LITTLE BIT GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC ART PROCESS FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC AND WHY WE HAVE AND THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE VOLUNTEERS. IT'S A VERY LENGTHY, VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT PROCESS WHERE WE DON'T JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN ARRIVE AT A DONATION. THAT'S NOT AT ALL HOW IT HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, I RESEARCHED THE COUNTRY AND WE PRESENTED A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION OF A VARIETY OF PUBLIC ART PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY DONE FOR FIREHOUSES. AND THERE WERE ONES THAT HAD FIREMEN. THERE WERE ONES THAT HAD DIFFERENT ICONS OF FIRE OR ICONS, THE SUCH AS ALBERT PALEY ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, WHERE HE DID ICONIC SYMBOLS. WE HAD HOSES. WE HAD WE HAD SEVERAL IDEAS. A COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF A DALMATIAN. AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS COMMITTEE IS EXTREMELY QUALIFIED. WE HAVE PUBLIC ARTISTS ON THE COMMITTEE. WE HAVE ARCHITECTS, WE HAVE LOCAL RESIDENTS, AND WE HAVE TWO WOMEN THAT ARE PERSONALLY ARTISTS AND AN ART EDUCATOR. SO IT'S THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND IF GEORGE AND I ONLY PRESENT IDEAS FROM THERE, ONCE THE COMMITTEE DECIDED THEY REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF OF WHIMSY AND HUMOR AND THE FACT THAT WE WE IT WAS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO PUT IT ON THE ROOF AND WE FELT BADLY BECAUSE I KNOW COMMISSIONER PLACAS DREAM WAS TO HAVE IT ON THE ROOF AND SO WAS MINE. I LOVE THAT IDEA. I'M TRYING TO SAY IT DIDN'T WHIMSICALLY HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY WELL DEBTED, PLANNED OUT PROCESS TO GET TO THE END RESULT. THE OTHER THING THAT DELIGHTED GEORGE AND I, THE THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU ARE GETTING THE MOST AMAZING VISIBLE PIECE OF SCULPTURE. I MEAN, IT'S WE COULDN'T BELIEVE IT WHEN HE SAID 16 FEET. THAT'S HIGHLY UNUSUAL. THIS ARTIST IS GOING ALL OUT. I HOPE HE MAKES SOME MONEY. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE CAN AT THIRTY THOUSAND, BUT WHERE WE'RE GETTING SOMETHING GREAT. SO I VERY MUCH RESPECT YOUR OPINIONS, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT GOES INTO THE PROCESS. AND ALWAYS REMEMBER, ART IS IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE. IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE. I'M HAPPY I DON'T GET TO VOTE AND JUST PRESENT BECAUSE MANY TIMES I DON'T LIKE WHAT THE COMMITTEE CHOSE. I DON'T PERSONALLY LIKE IT. BUT IT'S A COMMITTEE PROCESS. AND AND AGAIN, LIKE COMMISSIONER POLACCO SAID AT. WENT TO CHIEF SALES AND HE BROUGHT IT BEFORE HIS FIREFIGHTERS THAT THIS IS THEIR HOUSE. THIS IS WHERE THEY LIVE. SO IT'S A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT PROCESS. BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR OPINIONS ALL THE TIME, AND I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU FEEL. BUT I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN IMAGE, WE HAVE IT IN COLOR. THERE'S NO REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CAN'T PUT THIS OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR ON AN EMAIL LIST AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS. WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU KNOW, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT THE FIREFIGHTERS THINK. THEY'RE NOT TAMARACK RESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KNOW HOW TAMARACK RESIDENTS FEEL ABOUT THIS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL BE ATTRACTED TO US. I'D BE CURIOUS TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER IMPLACABLE IS SATISFIED WITH IT. YOU KNOW, I'LL I'LL VOTE TO SUPPORT IT, BUT PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE IT OR CAN'T RELATE TO IT. SO, GEORGE, HOW MANY PIECES DO YOU HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC? I HAVE ONE. OK, AND HOW MANY PIECES, IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, HOW MANY HOW MANY AFRICAN AMERICAN ARTISTS HAVE DONE PIECES FOR THE CITY OF TAMARACK BESIDES YOU, BETSY? I'D HAVE TO REALLY KIND OF DIG BACK AND THINK HERE I'M THINKING TO. I BET I CAN DO SOME RESEARCH COMMISSIONER AND ACTUALLY GET BACK WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU A MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWER, BUT I, I WE HAVE ABOUT 12 PIECES OF ART LOOK [02:30:05] IN THE COLLECTION RIGHT NOW, OK? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. NO, THERE IS NOT ONE THAT'S A PERSON OF COLOR OR LEUPEN IN TERMS OF RECENT MEMORY. RUBIN DID THE BASIC BUILDING, CORRECT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. MARCUS CONTESSA'S, LATINO CULTURE. AND THIS PERSON SEEMS LIKE HE'S LATINO BASED ON THE NAME. I DON'T KNOW. YES, HE IS. YES, HE LIVES IN PUERTO RICO. ALL RIGHT. OK, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. NOW, I'M GOING TO SAY AGAIN, I BELIEVE IT'S A VERY TERRIBLE LOCATION. IT IS NOT THE MAJORITY. AND NOW WHEN I SAY MAJORITY, THE SUPER MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE IT ONCE THE BUILDING GOES UP ON THAT CORNER THERE. I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GARLAND. AND WHEN HE SAID THAT THIS PIECE SHOULD BELONG IN THE DOG PARK, IT'S A WONDERFUL PIECE. AND I BELIEVE THE DOG RESIDENTS WILL EXTREMELY LOVE IT MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST TABLE THIS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE MIXED FEELINGS OF IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PLIEGO SAYING THIS SHOULD GO ON THE ROOF. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO SEE IT ON THE ROOF BECAUSE NOW WE CAN PROBABLY EVEN SEE IT BETTER. BUT AGAIN, ONCE YOU HAVE THAT BUILDING FOUR FLOORS HIGH, NO ONE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT. AND JUST TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A PICTURE MOMENT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T SEE THAT TRAFFIC THERE. AND I BELIEVE THE DOG PARK WOULD ACTUALLY ENJOY A BIT MORE. AND I'D LIKE TO GO OUT AND JUST MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS AT THE MOMENT. THERE IS A SECOND I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE VICE MAYOR'S MOTION BEFORE THERE'S NO COMMENT ON THE TABLE. MOTIONS OF PEOPLE. CAN YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION TO THE TABLE SO WE CAN COMMENT BY THE MAYOR OR THE D.A. OF THE MOTION? WHAT WAS THAT MAYOR GOMEZ LIKE? BASICALLY, THE MOTION IS WITHDRAWN BECAUSE I SAID, WELL, IT CAN HAPPEN AND IT WILL FAIL FOR LACK OF A SECOND. HELLO. IT'S FELT MORE LIKE THE SECOND HAS BEEN PULLED. EITHER WAY, THE NEXT PERSON ON DECK FOR DISCUSSION WAS COMMISSIONER PLOTKA. THEN YOU HAVE TO GET INVOLVED. OK, I JUST WANT YOU TO BE A LITTLE BIT CLEARER, MAYBE ORIGINALLY WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ON THE ROOF THERE, THERE WERE ISSUES WITH PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE ROOF. YOU KNOW, HURRICANE AND I AM REALLY, REALLY GOOD WITH IT BEING WHERE IT IS BECAUSE THE INTENTION IS TO BRING SCHOOL CHILDREN TO THE FIREHOUSE FOR TOURS. I THINK WE NEED TO ENGAGE CHILDREN MORE. I THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT SITE. ASIDE FROM PHOTO OPS AND ALL THIS NOW GOING EAST ON THE STREET. WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY THERE. AS LONG AS THERE'S NOTHING CURRENTLY BUILT ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON UNIVERSITY, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT. SO I UNDERSTAND ALL THE CONCERNS. BUT REMEMBER, THIS IS STILL ONE OF OUR FIREHOUSES AND IT DESERVES THE SAME ATTENTION, MAYBE NOT AS LARGE AS THE ONE ON ONE COMMERCIAL IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT IT STILL DESERVES THE ATTENTION. THIS IS NOT A STEPCHILD FIREHOUSE JUST BECAUSE IT'S PUT ON THE STREET THAT IT'S ON. AND I LIKE THE IMAGE I LIKE I THINK SOMETIMES YOU NEED A LITTLE WHIMSY. SOME OF THE OTHERS WE LOOKED AT WERE A BIT SOMBER, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. AND AS I SAID, ART IS VERY SUBJECTIVE AND I GET THAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BUT IF WE IF WE IF WE TABLED THE ITEM, COULD WE HAVE A LOCAL ARTIST? DESIGN A GOOD PROJECT, INSTEAD OF HAVING A NATIONAL ARTIST GO OUT AND LOOK FOR A LOCAL ARTIST TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE PROJECT TO BE SOMETHING LOCAL THAT OUR LOCALS CAN APPRECIATE, THAT OUR [02:35:05] RESIDENTS CAN APPRECIATE. AND WHO BETTER TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAN A RESIDENT THEMSELVES? SO I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT TO DERAIL THE WHOLE THING AND ASK THE ART COMMITTEE TO ASK FOR A LOCA ARTIST TO DESIGN THIS, INSTEAD GIVE OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS THE ABILITY TO TO TO DESIGN AND BE A PART OF THESE PROJECTS. I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MY COLLEAGUES THINK ABOUT THAT. AT THE TIME, I'M GOING TO LET COMMISSIONER GARLAND, HE HAS HIS HAND UP AND THEY CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IF THEY SO CHOOSE AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK HAS GOT TO RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER POLACCO. THIS DEFINITELY DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A STEPCHILD OF FIRE STATION. THIS LOOKS LIKE THE NEWEST FIRE STATION THAT WE HAVE. LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON A LOT OF PROPERTY. IT'S VERY PRETTY, A LOT OF GRASS THERE. TREES. YOU KNOW, MY MY SON'S AT CHALLENGER ELEMENTARY, AND LAST YEAR THEY VISITED, I DON'T KNOW, THE FIRE STATION NUMBER, BUT THE ONE RIGHT THERE, ANHYDROUS ROAD. AND, YOU KNOW, KIDS ARE IN AWE OF THE FIRE OF THE FIRE TRUCKS THERE AND ALL THE HOSES OF THE EQUIPMENT OF THE ENTIRE FIRE STATION. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE SOMEONE BEING ALL OF A BIG OF A BIG STATUE OF A DOG, BUT AND THEN A STATUE OF THIS SIZE LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD NOT FIT ON THE ROOF. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF AND IF THAT'S THE CASE OR NOT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M I'M FINE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LIKE THE DOG, THE LOOK OF IT, IT'S NOT APPEALING TO ME. BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD, THE COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE MORE OF A SAYING OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE PLACED ON THE CITY. AND I WOULD LOVE TO GET MORE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. SO IF THERE'S A TOP THREE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD SURVEY OUR RESIDENTS AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN ENGAGE OUR RESIDENTS AND GOVERNMENT, MOST RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE PICKING ART. SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN ENGAGE OUR RESIDENTS IS NOT JUST HAVING FIVE OR SEVEN PEOPLE ON SOME COMMITTEE REPRESENTING THE WHOLE CITY IS WE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW IN ABOUT HAVING THIS PIECE OF ART HERE. THESE ARE THREE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO ENGAGE OUR RESIDENTS, MAKE THEM A PART OF THE PROCESS, MAKE THEM A PART OF GOVERNMENT SO THEY DON'T THINK THAT GOVERNMENT IS JUST THIS IS BORING THING THAT THAT HANDLES PAPERWORK. BUT WE ACTUALLY MAKE DECISIONS THAT THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THEM AS THEY ARE ABLE TO DRIVE BY AND SEE THESE THINGS. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN THIS PROCESS AND GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS AS WELL AS MY. SO BEFORE GOING TO OTHERS, I'M GOING TO MAKE MY COMMENTS. SINCE WE'RE LOOKING LIKE WE'RE ON ROUND THREE, I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT IT IS WHIMSICAL. IT WAS TAKEN ABACK A LITTLE BIT AT FIRST, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE PLACEMENT OF IT AND THE JOY THAT IT CAN BRING. IT COULD ALSO SERVE ITS OWN LITTLE BENCH WITH THE DOG'S BALLS ON WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. OUR TIME FIRE RESCUE HAS BEEN BRINGING SPARKY OUT TO MANY EVENTS AND WATCHING THE KIDS WITH SPARKY IS JUST BEEN WONDERFUL IN THE EXCITEMENT THAT THEY HAVE WITH OUR THE DALMATIAN THAT'S CALLED SPARKY AND HAVING THE. CONNECTION WITH HOW WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO TRAIN EVERYBODY TO LEARN THINGS LIKE FIRE RESCUE, CHANGING OUT YOUR ALARM SYSTEMS, SPRINKLERS, MAKING SURE YOUR HOUSE IS IS PROTECTED DURING HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ELECTRICAL ISSUES AND FIRE MATTERS. SO I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT TIME TOGETHER. I THINK WE CAN ALSO HAVE A FUN WAY OF DOING MAYBE NAME THE DOG IF YOU DON'T WANT TO NAME IT SPARKY AND SO ON. THAT CALLER DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST SAY FIRESTATION. THIRTY SIX, WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO BE CREATIVE IN THE CITY TO GET PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT. I DO BELIEVE OUR MEETINGS ARE PUBLICIZED. PEOPLE ARE INVITED TO COME TO OUR MEETINGS. I THINK THAT DOING CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE SUBJECTED, SUCH AS THIS, COULD CREATE SOME ISSUES TO HAVING MANY OPINIONS. I KNOW WHEN. WE DID TRY IT AS WELL WHEN YOU HAD THE ARTWORK AT WOODLANDS THAT WAS BEING PUT THERE FOR SOME COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS WHEN IT WAS NARROWED DOWN, BUT THAT'S UP TO THE. THE BOARD ON THAT ONE FOR NARROWING IT DOWN TO THEM, PRESENTING IT, I THINK THAT IT'S PRESUMPTUOUS TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO A FOUR STORY BUILDING AT THE CORNER OF UNIVERSITY AND 70, I BELIEVE THAT. [02:40:02] SEVENTY SIX WHERE THE SECOND. BUT IT'S A MATTER OF. ARTWORK IS ALSO TUCKED AWAY IN OUR CITY ALL OVER THE PLACE. IF YOU LOOK WHERE OUR COMMUNITY CENTER IS FOR OUR LIBRARY, IT'S BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT ARE THERE. THEY'RE TUCKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND WE HAVE A WE HAVE NEW BROCHURES THAT WERE STARTING TO GO OUT AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO OUR ART WALK. SO ALL OF OUR BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK IS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND JUST TO CONTINUE ALONG THOSE LINES AND SOME OF OUR ARTWORK AS WHIMSICAL, SOME OF OUR ARTWORK IS BEAUTIFUL. SOME OF THE ARTWORK IS SOME PEOPLE LOVE IT. SOME PEOPLE HATE IT. SO. I WOULD ADD CONCERNED AND HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THIS PIECE. HOW LONG WILL IT STAY CLEAN? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? WE DO LIVE IN SOUTH FLORIDA. WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHERE PIPES UNDERGROUND PIPES FOR IRRIGATION DO SOMETIMES TURN SIDES OF BUILDINGS INTO A RUST COLOR. SO IS THAT GOING TO BE MAINTAINED? PROBABLY NOT GO RUSTY. THESE ARE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. SO AT THIS POINT TIME, I'M GOING TO JUMP TO. JACK STRAIN, WHO HAS A COMMENT THAT HE WISHES TO MAKE. CAN I HAVE MY HAND RAISED? I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE GOT A FEW TIMES. AND SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW OUR STAFF PEOPLE TO INTERJECT THINGS THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND GO AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. THE IDEA OF PUTTING THIS ART ON THE ROOF NOW AS THE SHIP HAS SAILED, YOU CANNOT ADD IT TO THE ROOF. NOW, IT WOULD BE A VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION. AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN I CAN TALK TO YOU IN DETAIL OF WHAT IT TOOK TO PUT THE ART ON FIRE STATION 78. IT WASN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, THROW IT UP THERE. WE HAD TO BASICALLY REINFORCE THE ENTIRE WALL THAT HELD IT BECAUSE WE'RE IN A HURRICANE ZONE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF PUTTING IT ON THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING IS IS PROBABLY NOT PLAUSIBLE AT THIS STAGE UNLESS YOU WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO DO IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW, AT THIS TIME, VICE MAYOR CAN BE SORRY TO INTERRUPT, CAN JACQUES ADDRESS THE CLEANING ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP? MAYOR GOMETZ? HOW WILL BE MAINTAINED AND CLEAN? WE WE PUBLIC SERVICES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FUND ARE THE ADMINISTRATORS. THEY BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE ART AND KIND OF I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY INSPECT IT. AND IF ANY ART NEEDS TO BE REFURBISHED OR WHATEVER OR ARE SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, SPECIALLY MAINTAINED, WE COORDINATE WITH THEM BECAUS THEY'RE THE EXPERTS. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW HOW TO MAINTAIN A BUILDING. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ART, IT'S A VERY SPECIALIZED SUBJECT. AND SO WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEM HAND IN HAND AND DO ANY PROPER ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, IF IT'S REQUIRED OR WHATEVER. WE WOULD SCHEDULE IT AND WE WOULD MONITOR IT AND MANAGE WHOEVER THE CONTRACTOR IS THAT'S DOING IT, ETC.. I DOUBT WE WOULD DO IT WITH OUR OWN PEOPLE, BUT I CAN ADD TO THAT FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S BENEFIT. WE DO HAVE A MAINTENANCE ACCOUNT THAT'S SET ASIDE AS A PART OF THE PUBLIC ART FUND. AS JOHN MENTIONED, GEORGE AND BETH COORDINATE THAT EFFORT. OFTENTIMES THE ARTIST THEMSELVES WILL COME BACK AND HELP WITH THE MAINTENANCE, BUT WE DO PUT IT OUT FOR EACH PIECE. WE HAVE A ROTATING ANNUAL MAINTENANCE PLAN AND WE WILL GO ON AND JUST MAINTAIN OUR ENTIRE PORTFOLIO. I THINK GEORGE CAN SPEAK SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF THE MATERIAL FOR THIS NOMINATION AND WHAT IT WILL ENTAIL IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING THIS PARTICULAR THE MATERIAL HE'S USING AS A CERAMIC TILE. SO HENCE, IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, WE'RE TALKING EASY, CLEAN, YOU KNOW, PERIODICALLY JUST USING SOME TYPE OF DETERGENT FOR FOR CLEANING IT. AND THAT PRETTY MUCH IS IT. IF YOU NOTICE THE, I THINK, SEVEN TO 10 BENCHES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THOSE BENCHES HAVE BEEN WITH US PROBABLY A GOOD FIVE, SIX YEARS AND THEY LOOK GREAT. SO THIS IS MINIMAL IN TERMS OF CLEANING. CAN WE DEFINE LOCO IS FLORIDA LOCO IS A TRI-COUNTY LOCO IS BROWARD COUNTY, TAMARACK, PUERTO RICO. WHAT'S LOCAL? WHAT'S THE DEFINITION? SOUTH FLORIDA. BROWARD COUNTY IN SOUTH FLORIDA. [02:45:02] I'M STILL GOING TO MAKE MY MOTION, BUT I SEE THEIR BLOCK, COMMISSIONER POCHO HAS A. MR. PLAKA. JUST QUICKLY TO PLAY OFF, COMMISSIONER GARLAND SUGGESTION, WE CAN HAVE A NAME, THE DOG CONTEST TO GET THE THE RESIDENCE INVOLVED ALSO TO ENSURE THEY KNOW IT'S THERE, WHAT IT IS, AND THIS MAY ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO COME OUT, THAT'S ALL. QUICKLY, I DON'T NEED TO BEAT THIS INTO THE GROUND ANY FURTHER. AT THE TIME, DO I HAVE NOT EMOTION SITUATION, THIS IS A DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION. AND SO IT'S. IT APPEARS THAT THOSE THREE WHO ARE WILLING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, IF SOMEBODY WISHES TO MOVE IT FORWARD, A MOTION. DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT? I HAVE TO SHARE. THERE WERE REPORTS OF HAVING COMMUNITY LUNCH IN THERE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE GUY SAYS, I HAVE TROUBLE HEARING YOU COMING IN AND A ECHO, OK, THAT I WON'T COMMENT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ECHO. IS THAT CLEAR NOW? YOU'RE CLEAR NOW. OK, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE THE THE ART WORK THAT'S GOING ON AT THE SPLASH PAD, THAT PARTICULAR ARTIST, PART OF HER CONTRACT WAS TO DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BECAUS OF THE TRACK BEING A FAST TRACK, IT REALLY WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED FOR THAT COMMUNITY COMMUNITY OUTREACH, THE COMMUNITY INPUT. SO VERY SENSITIVE TO THE REQUEST AND AND VERY WELL AND VERY VALID AND VERY WELL TAKEN. AND IF I MAY SPEAK FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARTIST PRACTICING IN SOUTH FLORIDA. MY THERE ARE NOT MANY ARTISTS OF COLOR THAT ARE IN THE PUBLIC ART ARENA IN SOUTH FLORIDA THAT WOULD RESPOND TO SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE, THOSE WHO AND THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR ARTIST THAT WE DID REACH OUT TO IN MIAMI, A BLACK ARTIST, BUT HE DID NOT EXPRESS AN INTEREST. SO THE SENSE, THE SENSITIVITY TO MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A DIVERSITY AND OPINION, I'M ALL ABOUT KEEPING THE MONEY IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND EVEN MORE SPECIFICALLY, IF WE CAN KEEP THE MONEY IN TAMARACK, BUT THEN FINDING THAT ARTISTS AND THOSE ARTISTS WHO ARE QUALIFIED AND THAT'S THE KEY THING, WHO ARE QUALIFIED TO RISE TO THE OCCASION TO DO THE WORK THAT'S AT THE LEVEL THAT PUBLIC ART BEST PRACTICES REQUIRE, THAT SOMETIMES IS OUR CHALLENGE. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PARKER. YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. SO I HAVE A SECOND. AND I'M NOT ABLE TO SECOND. SO AT THE TIME, IT FEELS FOR LACK OF SECOND, WHO IS YOUR AND YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED. MR. BOLTON, YES. QUESTION FOR GEORGE. GEORGE, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO DESIGNING THIS PROJECT? THANK YOU FOR THE OFFER. MAYOR BOLTON. BUT I THAT WOULD BE A REAL CONCERN. IT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. OK, IF THIS IF WE WERE TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO PENDING A RFQ FOR LOCAL ARTISTS, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO? WELL, DEFINITE, BETH AND I WOULD NOT OBJECT TO ENTERTAINING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FOR DOING THE CALL OUTS FOR SOUTH FLORIDA ARTISTS, AND IT WAS JUST SIMPLY TO DELAY PLACING SOMETHING THERE AND WITH TH UNDERSTANDING AND HEARING FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND RIGHTFULLY SO, INCLUDING LOCAL ARTISTS WHEN POSSIBLE, JUST THIS HERE IS OUR HEART, AND THAT IS THERE AR SOMETIMES NOT LOCAL ARTISTS WHO CAN DO SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE. OK, SO, GEORGE, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF COMMISSIONER IF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE VICE MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS MAKES A MOTION TO TABLE, THEN IT IS [02:50:06] MY DESIRE THAT YOU DO A Q TO FIND LOCAL ARTISTS TO DESIGN THE PROJECT. IF YOU CANNOT FIND LOCAL ARTISTS, THEN YOU COME BACK TO US WITH THE WITH THE SAME EASE. AND I THINK AT THAT TIME YOU WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM PASSING IT. BUT I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL, AT LEAST FOR ME, RESPECTFUL TO VICE MAYOR PLUGHOLE AND TO TO COMMISSIONER PLECO AND TO VICE MAYOR POLITICOS TO LOOK FOR LOCAL ARTISTS, SEE IF WE CAN FIND LOCAL ARTISTS TO DESIGN THE PROJECT, SEE WHAT THEY BRING. AND IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, THEN WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO THIS PIECE. AND IF WE COME BACK TO THIS PIECE, THEN LET'S HAVE A NAMING OF THE DOG COMPETITION SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE RESIDENTS. AND THAT, I THINK, WOULD ALSO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER GARLAND DESIRES. WILL VERY WILLING TO DO THAT. WHAT I THINK I THINK IN THAT SCENARIO, EVERYBODY WINS THAT THAT'S THE JOB OF THE MAYOR, ACTUALLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S SEE IF EVERYBODY AGREES. WELL, I THINK THAT I THINK YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND, MAYOR. AND I DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. I'M I'M NOT FINISHED. I'M NOT FINISHED. NOT FINISHED. GO AHEAD. YEAH. I THINK THAT SUMS UP WHAT EACH PERSON WANTS. AND I THINK THAT IF WE DO THAT, THEN IT MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY. YES, COMMISSIONER BLACK WOULD HAVE A DELAY IN PUTTING HER PIECE DOWN, BUT AT LEAST WE WOULD LOOK TO SEE IF WE HAVE LOCAL ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, COME FORWARD. AND THEN IF THEY DON'T COME FORWARD AND IF YOU BRING THE PIECE BACK, WE SHOULD HAVE YOU SHOULD BRING IT BACK WITH A COMPONENT OF IT NAMING THE DOG COMPETITION SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN PARTICIPATE. AND OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONER GARLAND INITIATIVE. THAT'S HIS IDEA. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUGGESTION, AND I WANT TO FIGHT OVER THE FACT THAT I BROUGHT UP THE NAMING OF THE DOG ANYWAY, VICE MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS, GO FOR IT. JUST JUMP ON THIS FEEDBACK THING FROM THE RESIDENCE. I DO HEAR BACK A LOT OF WELL, WE NEVER HAVE A SAY IN IT. AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT SO THAT HER FEEDBACK SITUATION IS VERY IMPORTANT. BUT I WOULD GO BACK TO THE LOCATION AND I DID PUT IT ON THE CHAT. YOU KNOW, THE LOCATION IS CRITICAL. WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER WOODLAND'S ART PIECE TO END UP IN A LOCATION WHERE IT'S COVERED BY TREES. I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF IT'S LIT IT UP, LIT UP AT NIGHT WHERE YOU JUST DRIVING BY 40 MILES. FORTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR. AND SOME OF US, YOU KNOW, ONE HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR. AND YOU YOU BYPASS IT. THE LOCATION I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING BACK TO IT IS IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. OK, CAN WE WRAP THIS UP, MR. GARLAND? YONGYUTH. AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER WHO BIDS ON GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS, THE WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD IS TO WIN A CONTRACT ONLY TO HAVE A COMMISSION TAKE IT AWAY. SO YOU GO THROUGH A SELECTION PROCESS, YOU WIN AND YOU THINK YOU CAN COUNT ON SOME MONEY COMING IN AS LONG AS THE COMMISSION GIVES A STAMP OF APPROVAL AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S TAKEN AWAY. AND I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT. IT'S A HORRIBLE FEELING. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND PROJECT AWAY FROM THIS PARTICULAR CELSO GONZALEZ. BUT I DO WANT TO SEE MORE AND MORE INVOLVEMENT ON THE COMMISSION LEVEL GOING FORWARD AND MORE INVOLVEMENT FROM RESIDENTS GOING FORWARD. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. SO, I MEAN, I'M OK, I'M OK WITH TABLING IT, BUT NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF ISSUING ANOTHER RFP AND GIVING SOMEBODY ELSE AN OPPORTUNIT WHEN WHEN THIS PERSON WON IT. AND THEN OUR CONSULTANT SAID THAT THEY DID MAKE A CALL FOR A LOCAL ARTISTS AND AND THEY DIDN'T RESPOND. AND SO I DON'T LIKE I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM SOMEONE THAT WON IT. BUT GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF OF, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO [02:55:02] THE LOCAL ARTS COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE SHOULD BE INFORMED EARLIER IN THE PROCESS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 10 FINALISTS OR THREE FINALISTS OR WHATEVER DO NOT INCLUDE LOCAL ARTISTS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T RESPOND OR WHATEVER. BUT THESE WERE OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY MY POSITION, MR. BOLTON. OK, SO I THINK NOW WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE. SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS IS CAN WE HAVE RESIDENT INCLUSION WHERE THEY NAMED THE DOG? THAT'S THE MAYOR'S IDEA. WAS THERE A MOTION OR NO, THAT THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR GEORGE TO GET OUT. YES. IF INDEED YOU ARE INCLINED TO MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN DEFINITELY ANNOUNCE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS WONDERFUL WORK OF ART IS COMING INTO THEIR COMMUNITY. AND AS WE DID WITH THE INSPIRATION WAY WHEN WE WERE FIRST STARTING THAT PROJECT, WE PUT IT OUT THERE TO THE COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY NAME WE WERE CALLING IT SCULPTURE ON THE AVENUE, BUT INSPIRATION WAY WAS A CONTEST. SO, YES, THAT CAN BE DONE. OK. AND GEORGE, IN THE FUTURE, HAVE YOU HEARD COMMISSIONER GALLANT'S REQUEST? I THINK IT'S ALSO MY REQUEST THAT THE 4TH THINGS LIKE THIS COME TO THE COMMISSION. AND YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB WITH CALLING US AND HAVING INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS AND SHOWING US PIECES THAT WOULD COME BEFORE US FIRST. I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING I KNOW I DID NOT SEE THIS DOG BECAUSE IF I SAW THIS DOG, THEN I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, WHAT DOES THIS DOG HAVE TO DO WITH THE FIRE STATION? IT YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THAT WE DON'T SPEND SO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC ART BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT I. I'M A MUSICIAN. SO IT'S LIKE WHEN WHEN I SING A NOTE, THAT NOTE IS NOT NECESSARILY INTERPRETED BY THE SAME WAY THAT I INTERPRET IT, YOU KNOW, TO OTHER PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WHEN I SAY SOMETHING, IT'S LIKE IT'S I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HEAR ANOTHER ANOTHER CHORD. RIGHT. SO YOU YOU HAVE TO KIND OF GET US ON THE SAME PAGE SOMEHOW BEFORE COMING SO THAT WE DON'T. GOES THROUGH THIS AGAIN, SO PROBABLY DO SOME MEETINGS OR WHATEVER IT IS, SHOW US THE PIECES AND LET US LET US CHEW YOUR EAR OFF, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE MEETINGS. AND THEN ONCE YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS IN YOUR MIND, OF COURSE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHO LIKES WHAT AND WHO DOES NOT LIKE WHAT. BUT AT LEAST YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE CONSENSUS IN YOUR MIND. THEN BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SPEND TOO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT ART AND THAT'S THE STUFF. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S NOT COOL. SO I DIDN'T SECOND THE THE COMMISSIONERS MOTION BEFORE FOR TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE, I DIDN'T GET MY COMMENTS THROUGH YET. AND NUMBER TWO, NOW SHE KNOWS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION NOT SECONDED. I'M SURE THAT FEELS TERRIBLE. I WENT THROUGH THAT FOR 43 YEARS. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. BLANCO. YOU YOU JUST WANT TO A FAILED MOTION THERE. BUT I'M WILLING TO HEAR HER MOTION AGAIN. AND THIS TIME I WOULD LOVE TO SECOND IT. I THINK THAT WHEN IT'S WHEN SOMETHING IT'S IN SOMEBODY'S DISTRICT. SO SUPPORT THEM WHEN IT'S IN THEIR DISTRICT. AND THAT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR A LONG TIME. IF I DON'T WANT A STORAGE FACILITY IN DISTRICT ONE, SUPPORT ME. IF YOU IF YOU WANT A PIECE OF ART IN YOUR DISTRICT, SUPPORT EACH OTHER. THIS THIS IS THIS IS A NO BRAINER THING. AND SO NOW THAT SHE KNOWS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE, I HOPE THE NEXT TIME SHE KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES AT LEAST THREE TO TANGO, ESPECIALLY THESE DAYS. AND TABARROK SO COMMISSIONER GARLAND WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING. I SEE HIS HAND UP, BUT IF NOT, THEN GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SECOND COMMISSIONER BLANCO'S MOTION. I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. COMMISSIONER GARLAND. YOU WENT ON SO LONG, MR. BOLTON, THAT I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, SO I'LL PASS IT ALONG WITH IT. [03:00:01] THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARLAND. COMMISSIONER PLAKA. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES. GOING TO CITY HALL. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER PLECO. YES. VICE MAYOR. YES. MR. BOLTON. YES. COMMISSIONER GARLAND. YES. AND MAYOR GOMEZ. YES. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME OF FIFTY THREE, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN RECESS UNTIL ONE TEN. WE ARE IN RECESS. SO PLEASE, PLEASE CONFIRM ALL OF US. YES, MR. BOLTON. I'M HERE. THANK YOU, MR. GARLAND. HERE, THANK YOU, VICTOR PLECO, I'M HERE. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. AND MAYOR COLEMAN. AND I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR LIVES THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, GLAD THAT THEY WERE, WE ARE NOW GOING TO 13 BE DISCUSSION RELATED TO RFQ [13.b. Discussion related to an RFQ/RFP process for Permanent City Attorney Services] RFP PROCESS FOR PROMINENT CITY ATTORNEY SERVICES REQUESTED BY VICE MAYOR OF ALL OF US. BECAUSE WE WERE SUCH IN A RUSH BEFORE, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE ARE WE IN THE PROCESS? THAT'S THAT'S ALL MR. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. WE ARE NOT IN. WE'RE NOWHERE IN THE PROCESS, I GUESS WOULD BE MY BEST ANSWER TO YOU. BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF YOUR REQUEST, VICE MAYOR, WE PROVIDED A DRAFT RFQ RFP TO THE TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY DISCUSSION THAT THE COMMISSION MAY WISH TO HAVE TODAY. BUT AS WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE SELECTION OF THE INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS THE CITY COMMISSION'S PROCESS. IT'LL IT'LL BE DRIVEN BY YOU AND IT IS UP TO YOU AS TO HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, MAKING A SELECTION. THEN THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION OR SUGGESTION ON HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. THANK YOU. THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME. THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR. COMMISSIONER. MR. GOODVIN, YOUR ARM, YOUR ARM, YOU. SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED RFQ AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT OVER THE WEEKEND, IS IT STEINGLASS AVAILABLE FOR O QUESTION IN THE LINE OF FIRE? THIS KEEP THE CHAIR. THIS IS KEITH THAT YOU'RE PURCHASING CONTRACTS MANAGER OF. KEITH TOLD ME, DID YOU PUT DID YOU PUT THIS TOGETHER? HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THIS DOCUMENT? HOW WE ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY REVIEWED A LOT OF OTHER DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING ONE FROM THE CITY, MIRAMAR, ONE IN THE CITY OF PLANTATION'S SOME OTHERS. AND WE ALSO USE SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD INCLUDED RECENTLY FOR THE INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR STANDARDS. THIS IS IN OUR STANDARD FORMAT THAT WE WOULD UTILIZE FOR ANY. REGULAR RFP DOCUMENT CONDITIONER. OK, SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE DOCUMENT. ALL RIGHT. MY CONCERN STARTS AT PAGE 15 AND PAINTS AND THEN CONTINUES TO PAGE 16. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS OFFLINE WITH YOU, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE MY MY AGAIN, MY MY CONCERNS START THERE. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND I HAVE A LOT OF MARKUPS ON THIS DOCUMENT. SO I BELIEVE IT WOULD TAKE LIKE HOURS TO GO THROUGH ALL OF MY SUGGESTIONS. SO I WOULD LIKE A MEETING WITH THE MANAGERS. LET'S USE THE GLOVES AND OF COURSE, THE CITY ATTORNEY. ALTERNATIVELY, I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED A FEW WITHOUT POINTS. [03:05:06] AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ESSENTIALLY THE BOTTOM LINE IS JUST HOW WILL ARGUE WITHOUT POINTS HOW PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WRITE IN, TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHO THEY ARE AND THAT'S THE STAFF AND HAVE THE PROCESS BE THE COMMISSIONS PROCESS AND CHOOSE WHOEVER WE WANT AND THEN LET THAT BE A 30 DAY PROCESS. NOW, WHEN I SAY 30 DAYS, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND WE CHOOSE SOMEBODY, I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION AT THAT POINT T CONSIDER A START DATE FOR THE FOR THE NEW ATTORNEY. SO LET'S SAY WE CHOOSE SOMEONE WE ARE LET'S SAY WE CHOOSE SOMEONE BY MARCH 1ST. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT PERSON START MARCH 1ST. WHAT WE COULD DO IS BASED ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH WITH HANS AND HIS RESPONSIBILITIES, WE COULD SAY, YEAH, WE'RE CHOOSING SOMEBODY. YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUR ASK THE ATTORNEY ON MARCH 1ST. BUT YEAH, WE'RE CHOOSING A CITY ATTORNEY ON MARCH 1ST. BUT YOU ARE STARTING, LET'S SAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST OR JANUARY FIRST OF TWENTY, TWENTY TWO, LIKE WHATEVER DATE WE CHOOSE AT THAT POINT. SO JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE'RE CHOOSING SOMEBODY AND THAT AND SO ON DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE SHOULD IMMEDIATELY SWITCH OVER AND LEAVE HANDS. AND THAT'S THE STUFF WE WOULD AS A COMMISSION. WHEN WE CHOOSE THAT FIRM, WE WOULD. SELECT A DATE OUT AND SAY, OK, THIS IS THE START DATE, THIS IS BENEFICIAL, YOU KNOW, AND GO AND GO FOR IT, IF THAT THAT IS THAT IS MY MY SUGGESTION FOR NOW. AND THAT AND THAT COULD EVOLVE BASED ON DISCUSSION. BUT AS IT IS WITH WITH THIS DOCUMENT THAT THAT YOU PROPOSED, STEVE, I DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT. I WENT THROUGH IT AND I DON'T LIKE IT. THANK YOU. MR. GARLAND, YES, I SPOKE TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE DOCUMENT, AND IT WAS JUST PROVIDED TO US AS A REFERENCE POINT SO WE CAN DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WANT TO EVALUATE FIRMS AND GO ABOUT OUR SELECTION PROCESS. I DO AGREE THAT I DO WANT THE CURRENT CITY ATTORNEY TO STAY FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. I'M LIKE COMMISSIONER BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. HE REQUESTED AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY TO REVIEW THE ROCK ISLAND STORAGE PROJECT AND PROVIDE A MEMO WITH A SUMMARY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T THINK WE GOT ENOUGH OF WERE MEMOS FROM THE PRIOR CITY ATTORNEY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, I WAS NEVER COMFORTABLE WITH THE COLONY WEST PROJECT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS THAT I HAD WITH EITHER THE ATTORNEY OR THE CITY MANAGER, BUT I NEVER HAD A DOCUMENT THAT I COULD REVIEW AND EXAMINE THE POINTS AND DETERMINE. SO I ALWAYS VOTED NO ON THAT BECAUSE IT WAS JUST IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO MAKE SENSE TO ME. AND THERE ARE ALWAYS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT NEVER A MEMO. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT THE INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY TO DO IS TO REVIEW THAT PROJECT FROM THE INITIAL PHASE TO ALL THE DIFFERENT CHANGE ORDERS, HOW THE INITIAL VENDOR WAS SELECTED, HOW IT WENT FROM SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS TO 11 MILLION DOLLARS, AND WHAT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN A MEMO. SO I CAN READ AND DIGEST AND FULLY COMPREHEND. SO SO I THINK WE CAN USE THE CURRENT INTERIM ATTORNEY TO EVALUATE CERTAIN THINGS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANY PROMPTING. OUR LOBBYIST RON BOOK HAD SOME SOME EXTREMELY KIND WORDS TO SAY ABOUT HIM AND HIS PROFESSIONALISM. SO HE DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HIS EXPERIENCE AND HIS KNOWLEDGE AS A CITY PRACTICING CITY ATTORNEY FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND REALLY REEXAMINE SOME THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CLEAR ON IN THE PAST. BUT REGARDING, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE SELECTION OF ATTORNEY, I MEAN, THERE'S REALLY NO REAL SCIENCE TO DOING THAT. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS FALSELY ARRESTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, PROBABLY BY IT WAS LIKE [03:10:02] ON A SATURDAY. BY WEDNESDAY, I THINK I HAD ABOUT 50 PIECES IN MY MAILBOX FROM ALL THE ATTORNEYS ALL OVER BROWARD COUNTY. SO THAT'S HOW I KNEW HOW MUCH OF A BIG BUSINESS GETTING ARRESTED WAS BECAUSE MY MAILBOX WAS FLOODED. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME KIND OF SYSTEM WHERE WHEN SOMEONE GETS ARRESTED, ALL THESE ATTORNEYS GET A NOTIFICATION AND THEY SEND THEIR FLIERS OUT. AND SO HOW DID I DETERMINE WHICH ATTORNEY TO HIRE? I CALLED EVERYBODY, ASK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE, ASK ABOUT THEIR PRICING. YOU KNOW, SOME CHARGE AS MUCH AS TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS RIGHT NOW. A RESIDENT IS CALLING ME LLOYD WALKER. AND I GOT A TEXT AND THEM KNOW I'M IN A COMMISSION MEETING ANYWAY. YOU KNOW, I HAD TO CALL EACH VENDOR, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL LISTED THEIR BAR CREDENTIALS AND EXPERIENCE, MADE THE CALL EVEN IF A PRICING. BUT AN ATTORNEY IS AN ATTORNEY. AND SO WE ACTUALLY DON'T NEED AN RFP PROCESS IN RFQ PROCESS TO GET TO AN INTERVIEW PROCESS. BUT I THINK WE NEED IT. WHAT WE NEED IS A SEPARATE MEETING, NOT REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING, WHERE WE JUST ALL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND DETERMINE WHAT WE WANT OUR PROCESS TO BE. AND THEN AND THEN WE GO FOR. I AM. NOT SEEING ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. I THINK AN OUTLINE IS NEEDED. I AGREE THAT THE PROCESS IS OUR OWN. I THINK THAT THERE IT IS, WE'RE DEALING WITH THE LAW AND WE'RE DEALING WITH LAWYERS AND LAWYERS LIKE TO HAVE FORMAT AND STRUCTURE AND HAVE SOMETHING TO FOLLOW IN THE PROCESS. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING THIS STRUCTURE BEING GIVEN OUT TO LAWYERS AND LAW FIRMS WHO WISH TO PROVIDE U WITH INFORMATION THAT WE THEN REVIEW AND DISCUSS AT A FUTURE TIME THAT I BELIEVE IS THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THE RFQ RFP THAT WE ARE SEEKING. MR. BOLTON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I HEARD COMMISSIONER GARLAND WISHES, WILL IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, STAFF WOULD PLAN A MEETING WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND IT WOULD BE A TIME CERTAIN FOR NO MORE THAN 30 DAYS? TO DISCUSS TO YOU TO HAVE A MEETING. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE ASKING TO HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN HERE FOR US TO GO OUT TOGETHER AND GET A CITY ATTORNEY. NO, NOT SO. SO WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT PROCESS WE WANT TO USE, HOW YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, HOW I WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT. AND THAT'S THE STUFF. INSTEAD OF HAVING IT AS A PART OF AN ITEM IN A COMMISSION MEETING, IT WOULD BE A SPECIAL WORKSHOP. SO I WOULD CALL A SPECIAL WORKSHOP, WOULD TALK ABOUT WHAT WHAT PROCESS WE WANT TO USE TO GO OUT. AND THEN AFTER THAT MEETING, WE GIVE CONSENSUS AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. HOW ABOUT THIRTY SIX TO 90 DAYS, WHATEVER IT IS, AND GO FORWARD SO THAT MEETINGS SHOULD HAPPEN TIME CERTAIN WITHIN 30 DAYS OF SETTING UP ANOTHER WORKSHOP, LIKE WE USED TO HAVE WORKSHOPS IN THE PAST AND MAKING THIS ONE OF OUR WORKSHOP DATES SO SOLELY FOR THAT PURPOSE. CORRECT. THAT SINGLE TOPIC WORKSHOP, NOT AND NOT ADD A SECOND ITEM LIKE A STORAGE FACILITY. AND JUST SO THAT'S SO THAT A SINGLE POINT ITEM FOR A WORKSHOP SOLELY FOR THE DISCUSSION OF DEALING WITH SELECTING A NEW CITY. EXACTLY. COMMISSIONER GARLAND, YOU HAVE LOWERED YOUR HANDS, I TAKE IT YOU'RE FINE WITH THIS CITY MANAGER, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE SET ON A WORKSHOP, SEPARATE CITY WORKSHOP ON OUR CALENDARS FOR THE SOLE ITEM OF DISCUSSING HOW TO GO OUT AND SELECT A CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF TOWN LIKE THIS FOR CERTAIN, NO MORE THAN WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. THANK YOU. MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT ITEM, THE NEXT ITEM WAS A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE [13.c. Motion to reconsider Resolution Condemning the Violence at US Capitol] RESOLUTION. AND BEFORE WE GO THERE, I JUST. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, ACTUALLY, QUESTION ON MY CONDITION, I'M GOING TO ASK THEM. DID YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION PRIOR TO THE LAST MEETING, MAYOR, POINT OF CLARIFICATION. GO AHEAD. OK, SINCE THIS IS THE FOURTH ITEM THAT YOU WOULD BE WOULD HAVE ON THIS AGENDA, [03:15:06] YOU HAD THREE PROCLAMATIONS THIS MORNING. THIS WOULD BE THE FOURTH ITEM. SO I'M MAKING A MOTION REMOVING YOUR ITEM FROM THE AGENDA. CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS THERE'S NO I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M DOING THE I AM ASKING FOR THE CITY, NEVER WE'VE NEVER HAD FORCES BEFORE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER MEETINGS WHERE YOU HAVE IT AND I AM NOT. I AM GOING TO TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, I HAVE THE FLOOR TO BE ABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE A PROCLAMATION HAS NEVER BEEN COUNTED AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS WE HAVE FOR DISCUSSION. AND IF WE'RE ALL GOING TO START ALL OF A SUDDEN START UNILATERALLY ENFORCING IT, BECAUSE WE MAY NOT LIKE THE CONVERSATION I MIGHT BE BRINGING FORTH, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST HAVE THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION DURING OUR CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES. SO I HAVE A SPECIFIC PLACE OF WHERE I'M GOING HERE. CITY ATTORNEY. WHAT'S THE TO ALL OF SUDDEN PROCLAMATIONS BEING COUNTED AS ITEMS AGAINST THE THREE OR THE AGENDA SO THAT MY AGENDA ITEMS FOR MORE TIME CERTAIN ACCORDING TO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. YOU DON'T HAVE FLEXIBILITY. YOU MUST HAVE IT. AND I AM NOT SAYING IT'S AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. I'M NOT SAYING I'M GOING TO DO A SLOW MOTION. I TOLD YOU I WAS USING THIS AS A PLACEHOLDER FOR A COMMENT THAT I NEED TO MAKE, THAT I'M BEING ASKED TO REMOVE IT FROM THE. SHOULD THE PRISONER? I'M JOHN, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? BASICALLY, THEY DETERMINE UNDER THE RULES OF PROCEDURE WHETHER THIS ITEM IS A FLOOR FIGHT, CORRECT, VERSUS USE THREE PROCLAMATION AND ALSO THIS DRAFT RESOLUTION ON THIS RESOLUTION. SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, I CANNOT GO BACK INTO THE HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE I CAME HERE. SO LET ME LOOK AT THE RULES AND IN FACT, ONE SECOND. IS THAT SOMETHING THE CITY MANAGER CAN ADDRESS BASED ON HIS HISTORY OF BEING HERE THROUGH THE CHANNEL? IT IS S.T. THAT'S THIRTY FOUR. I HAVEN'T SAID NO. MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION REPRESENT MORE THAN THREE ITEMS AT ANYTHING. IT DOES NOT DEFINE THE TERM ITEMS. SO I WILL BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF THE MANAGER CAN YOU KNOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF PLAYING, I MEAN, SAID ITEMS WILL BE FINE. NEVERTHELESS, IF IF THE MAJORITY OF THIS COMMISSION, ONE OF THE DISCUSSED ITEM, THEY HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DO IT. OK, SO THIS MANAGER YOU WANT TO ADD, BASED ON THE HISTORY, WITH RESPECT TO HOW MANY ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS APPROVED PUTTING ON AN AGENDA VERSUS WEST COAST LINE ITEM? YOU KNOW, I'M ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO START THE CONVERSATION RIGHT HERE. IT'S NOT WORTH IT. I WILL BRING UP MY COMMENTS THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE HERE, SEEING THAT WHICH IS WHERE I WAS GOING BASED ON THE DISCUSSION REGARDING CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES. AND WE WILL INCLUDE IN THE CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES. THE COUNT OF PROCLAMATION'S ARE NOT PROCLAMATION'S IN OTHER CONVERSATIONS REGARDING PROCLAMATION'S DOING OUR NEXT POINT OF ORDER OR ITEM. MOVING NOW TO 13 DAYS DISCUSSION REGARDING SYDNEY'S CUSTOMS AND [13.d. Discussion regarding City's Customs and Practices] PRACTICES. SO THIS IS. A LIST OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION REGARDING PRACTICES, CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES, AND IT'S IN OUR BACK UP IN OUR WORKSHOP. AND SO ONE OF THE ITEMS FOR PROCEDURE, THIS LIST IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE, BUT THAT AIMS TO ENSURE THAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ARE PROPERLY INFORMED. IF ONE MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION REQUESTS INFORMATION FROM STAFF AND DEPARTMENTS TYPICALLY SHARED WITH THE ENTIRE COMMISSION. AND WHERE I WAS GOING WITH IT EARLIER IS THAT THERE WAS A TOPIC BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING THAT WAS NOT PROVIDED TO ALL MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO READ AND REVIEW PRIOR TO THAT COMMISSION, BEING ABLE TO ENACT IT OR DISCUSS IT OR MOVE FORWARD. SO WE NEED TO HAVE A CUSTOMARY PROCEDURE IN PRACTICE WHERE IN THIS ANYBODY WHO IS ON. [03:20:02] SENDING INFORMATION FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS TO BE DISCUSSED AND THEN VOTED UPON IN SECURITY OVER THE ENTIRE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU REFERENCING, WHAT ITEMS DID YOU NOT RECEIVE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED? YOU WERE ASKING POLACCO WHETHER OR NOT SHE RECEIVED SOMETHING. THE DRAFT RESOLUTION AT THE LAST MEETING. I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED A COPY OF IT BEFOREHAND TO READ IT PRIOR TO THE MEETING. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OTHERS HAD RECEIVED A COPY OF IT TO REVIEW PRIOR TO. SO CAN THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY CLERK ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? I RECEIVED I RECEIVED THE COPY. THANK YOU FOR SHARING, BUT I'M JUST SAYING GOING FORWARD TO MAKING SURE THAT. IF WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE DISCUSSING MATTERS ON THE COMMISSION TO ALL BE INFORMED IN THE SAME MANNER, NOT JUST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE OR FOUR PEOPLE HAVING A COPY OF IT AND THE FIFTH NOT AND BEING EXPECTED TO VOTE ON SOMETHING WITHOUT HAVING FULL UNDERSTANDING OF IT. I THINK THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY MANAGER MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL HAVE COPIES OF THE SAME ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON. THAT'S WHY WE GET THESE BIG BINDERS. IT WAS NOT IN THE BINDER. IT WAS NOT DISTRIBUTED. IT WAS NOT POSTED WITH THE AGENDA OF THE LEFT AGENDA. AND IT WAS NOT A PUBLIC RECORD FOR EVEN THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW ITS CASE MANAGER. THAT'S WHY GOING FORWARD, IT IS NOT WORTH GOING BACKWARDS. WE'RE GOING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN TO CLARIFY THE RECORD. SO THROUGH THE CHAIRS AT THE CASE CITY MANAGER THAT EVERYONE DID NOT GET A COPY OF THE DRAFT RESOLUTION. COMMISSIONER GARLAND THAT DRAFT RESOLUTION, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US, NOR WAS IT DISTRIBUTED BY US. SO THE CITY ATTORNEY DRAFTED IT AND DID NOT SEND IT TO THE CITY CLERK, I BELIEVE. I BELIEVE THE CITY FOR THE RECORD, IT WAS THE POLICY, I BELIEVE, OF CORRECT. I BELIEVE THE PRIOR CITY MAYOR, CITY ATTORNEY DRAFTED THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE RECEIVED A COPY. COMMISSIONER GARLAND. OK, BUT IT IS CUSTOMARY AND STANDARD PRACTICE FOR THE YOU AND THE CITY CLERK TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE RECEIVES THE SAME COPIES OF ALL ITEMS. THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA. THAT IS THAT IS OUR THAT THAT IS WHAT WE DO. OK, SO THEN AGAIN, THE PRIOR CITY ATTORNEY DID NOT DO HIS JOB IN SENDING THE INFORMATION TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO EVERYONE. SO THIS IS A NON-ISSUE BECAUSE AS THE CITY MANAGER JUST STATED IN THE CITY CLERK CONFIRM THAT WE ARE WE ALL RECEIVE THE SAME COPIES OF ALL THE DOCUMENTS NEEDED TO VOTE ON AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES TO MAKE SURE AND I'M SURE THAT THE WE DO NOT GET IT TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN A CUSTOM AND PRACTICE. THAT'S A POLICY FOR EVERYONE TO RECEIVE. ALL THE INFORMATION COMES DOWN TO. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES AND HALF THE STUFF THAT'S ON THIS LIST GO BETWEEN CODE AND WHICH IS POLICY AND CUSTOMARY PRACTICES. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST TALK ABOUT THIS TO MAKE SURE WE GET THROUGH IT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT. SO IT IS CLEAR ON THE RECORD FROM HERE IN, BECAUSE STAFF NEEDS TO ASSURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION THAT ARE COMING BEFORE US TO REVIEW AND READ, IT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US. HOWEVER, IF THESE ARE TOPICS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP INDIVIDUALLY AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THROUGH DISCUSSION THE SECTION FOR CHAPTER 13 OR PART 13, AND IF WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD THE MATERIAL, THEN OUR OBLIGATION TO GET IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY FOR REVIEW AND DISBURSEMENT TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION. SO THIS WAY, IT'S NOT THIS ONE PERSON THAT'S TECHNICALLY LOOKING AT THE ITEM AGENDA. IF WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THE PAST, IT WAS YOUR ITEM AGENDA. I'M SAYING THERE'S ANY OF US WHO HAVE AN ITEM AGENDA ON HERE THAN IT IS AND THERE'S BACK UP FOR REVIEW, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY BRINGING FORTH THIS NOTION. AH, I'M SURE OF YOU TO GO TO THE CITY CLERK GETS THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY TO THE CITY CLERK. AND THIS DISPERSIVE PRIOR TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING. YEAH, YES. AND SO EVERY TIME I ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE, IT WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND AND OR CITY CLERK AND IT WAS ON THE AGENDA. SO MAYBE BECAUSE THEY HAD ONE FOOT OUT THE DOOR, HE DIDN'T GET IT TO THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY CLERK. BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT I'M NOT DEBATING. I'M JUST CONFIRMING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROCEDURES TO MOVE ON. AND IT IS NOW UNDERSTOOD BY ALL. CORRECT. SO I JUST WANT TO VERIFY THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. SO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, IS IT PART OF THE POLICY OF THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COMMISSIONER GETS COPIES OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA IF IT IS COMMISSIONER? AND IN FURTHERANCE OF THAT, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR INTERNAL POLICY THAT WHEN [03:25:05] INFORMATION IS REQUESTED BY ONE COMMISSIONER THAT WOULD LEAD TO COULD LEAD TO A DISCUSSION AT A COMMISSION MEETING OR WORKSHOP IN THE FUTURE, THAT THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH THE ENTIRE COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. BOLTON. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC? YOUR HAND IS RAISED, I GUESS, BY THE MAJORITY OF MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO COME WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING CUSTOM AND PRACTICE. BUT BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND FOR COMMISSIONER PLECO SINCE SHE HAS BEEN HERE THE LONGEST. DO WE NOT RECALL THE DISCUSSION THAT PROCLAMATIONS ARE A PART OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA IN THE PAST? AND THIS IS SO FRESH IN MY MIND THAT IT'S IT'S LIKE IT'S YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER ASKING EVERYONE, LIKE, SO SO IF I HAVE TO PROCLAMATION'S OR THREE PROCLAMATION'S TO HAVE FOUR. AND I REMEMBER I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY COMMISSIONER GARLAND USED TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PROCLAMATION'S. AND WHEN HE GOT TO THE FOURTH PROCLAMATION, HE WAS TOLD, COMMISSIONER GARLAND, YOU CANNOT HAVE SO MANY PROCLAMATIONS. YOU'RE LIMITED TO ONLY THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. AND THAT CAME FROM YOUR MOUTH, MADAM, HERE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY, THE CITY MANAGER ON RECORD, DO YOU RECALL ALL OF US HAVING THAT DISCUSSION THAT THE ITEMS INCLUDE PROCLAMATIONS OF COMMISSIONER BOLTON? LET ME LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I RECALL. I RECALL SEPARATE AND DISTINCT DISCUSSIONS. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THERE THERE WAS CERTAINLY A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PROCLAMATIONS THAT A COMMISSIONER WAS ALLOWED. HOWEVER, AS THE STAFF, WE NEVER COUNTED THE PROCLAMATIONS AGAINST AN AGENDA ITEM. SO IF YOU HAD AN ITEM FOR THE AGENDA THAT NEEDED COMMISSION CONSIDERATION, THAT ITEM WENT ON THE AGENDA. AND IT WAS YOU WERE LIMITED TO THREE AGENDA ITEM PROCLAMATIONS WERE NOT CONSIDERED THE SAME WAY BECAUSE PROCLAMATION'S DIDN'T REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE COMMISSION. THEY WERE THERE. AND OUR INTERPRETATION WAS IN MANY CASES, PEOPLE WERE ASKING YOU TO PUT THAT ON FOR FOR RECOGNITION OF OF A PERSON OR A MONTH OR AN EVENT OR WHATEVER, SEPARATE AND APART FROM ACTUAL AGENDA ITEMS WHICH NEEDED TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS THE WAY THAT WE WE'VE TREATED IT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE DISCUSSION THAT THE CITY COMMISSION HAD. THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT. BUT THE ITEMS ON THE ENTIRE AGENDA MOVED PROCLAMATION'S. SO WHAT WOULD A SUIT TO CLARIFY TO TO TO MOVE ON? I'VE BEEN ASKED ASKED DISQUALIFICATION. I'M ON THE FLOOR, I GUESS. NO, I DON'T WANT YOU TO CLARIFY. I'M ASKING I'M ASKING MY QUESTIONS NOW THROUGH THE SERVICE, THROUGH THE CHAIR TO COMMISSIONER PLECO. DO YOU RECALL PROCLAMATION'S BEING A PART OF THE THREE ITEM LIMITS THAT WE HAVE? OK. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE TRYING TO THINK BACK, AND I DEFINITELY RECALL A CONVERSATION ABOUT TOO MANY PROCLAMATIONS ON THERE AND THERE WAS A LIMIT IN MY MIND. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS A POLICY THAT WOULD INCLUDE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL, BECAUSE IT WAS GETTING A LITTLE CARRIED AWAY. BUT WAS THAT WRITTEN POLICY THAT I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION OF IT. AND AND THIS THIS IS THIS IS WHY MY WHOLE FRUSTRATIONS CAME THAT THE CITY MANAGER WILL RECALL WHAT I JUST GOT HERE, THAT I SAID TO HIM AND AND STAFF AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT MY MY ISSUE IS NOT SO MUCH WHAT WE DO, MY ISSUES, THE PROCESS, THE PROCESSES. AND AND I WOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM ALMOST EVERY DAY. IT'S LIKE I IT'S IT'S JUST IT JUST DRIVES ME CRAZY, JUST THINKING ABOUT ALL THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE. AND IT WOULD CHANGE FROM DAY TO DAY. AND AND I WOULD SAY, HOW COME WE DID THIS LAST MONTH AND WE DIDN'T DO IT THIS MONTH. FOR INSTANCE, THE MAYOR'S MOTION TO RECONSIDER. YOU CAN HAVE ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THAT SAM SAID IS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IF YOU WEREN'T ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF THE BOAT. THE MAYOR WAS MAYOR. LET ME FINISH. [03:30:02] YOU CANNOT HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF THE VOTE. YOU HAVE TO BE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF THE VOTE IN ORDER TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. SO YOU'RE OVERSTEPPING YOUR BOUNDARIES NOT JUST ONCE, BUT TWICE. YOU VOTED NO ON THE ITEM. YES. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT? JUST JUST WE MOVE ON BECAUSE REALLY AND TRULY, THIS IS WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING ITEM D, BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO JUST USE THE PROCESS FOR FOR THEIR ADVANTAGE. AND WHEN IT'S TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO USE THE PROCESS, IT'S LIKE, OH, WE CAN'T USE THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, YOU VOTED YOU VOTED NO ON VICE MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS. IS OUR APPOINTMENT TO THE TO THE PLANNING BOARD BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THE PROCESS IS YOU PUT COMMISSIONER PLACAS ITEM TO HER PLANNING BOARD BECAUSE YOU SAID THE PROCESS IS. AND NOW THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THE PROCESS, YOU WANT TO CIRCUMVENT THAT SAME PROCESS THAT YOU STAND BY BECAUSE YOU WANT YOU WANT IT TO, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT YOUR ITEM AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY AND TRULY I'M NOT GOING BACKWARDS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. LET US DISCUSS THIS ITEM D AS IT IS AND RIP UP ONCE AND FOR ALL THESE CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. IF WE'RE GOING TO COME AT A FUTURE DATE ABOUT CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW IT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT LEGAL. WE'RE GOING TO PUT THINGS IN WRITING AND IT IS NOT IN WRITING. THEN YOU BRING IT TO A COMMISSION MEETING AND THEN YOU ASK, CAN WE MAKE THIS AS A POLICY? AND THIS IS HOW I THINK WE SHOULD GO FORWARD. SO THAT THAT IS MY THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. AND LET US DISCUSS ITEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE DISCUSSING ITEMS, THE CITY CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE PUT FOR THE RECORD THE VOTE RESPOND LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT ALL YOUR OLD SHOWS HAS A REBUTTAL FOR EVERY. OH, MY GOD. NOT EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S INTO THIS IS TRUE BY SOME PEOPLE. CITY CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE SEE WHERE WE GET THE VOTE FROM THE LAST. FROM THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IN QUESTION ON THE RECONSIDERATION, CORRECT? IT WAS A FOUR TO ONE WITH MAYOR COMMISSIONER GARLAND DISSENTING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AGAIN, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL CRETINOUS AGENDA. THERE IS NO NEED TO GO BACKWARDS. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. WE ARE ON ITEM 13 D DISCUSSING CITY CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE. WELL, WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS A FACTUAL STATEMENT OR NOT. SO DO THE CHAIR. CITY ATTORNEY, IS IT TRUE THAT YOU CANNOT BRING IN A MOTION TO RECONSIDER UNLESS YOU WERE ON THE LOSING SIDE OF THAT? YOU KNOW THAT THE CORRECT LAW PROCEDURE, IF YOU ON THE PREVAILING SIDE, YOU CAN BRING BACK A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS A MOOT POINT. THE ITEM HAS BEEN DROPPED. CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM AS WE GET CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES? IT'S NOT A MOOT POINT IF WE LEARN FROM THE PROCESS. SO JUST GIVING ON. EXACTLY. SO THE NEXT ITEM THAT WAS LISTED ON HERE WAS COMMISSIONERS' MAY CHANGE OFFICES AFTER AN ELECTION. THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT I REMEMBER BEING HERE. THAT PERSON BECAME THE VACATING MISSIONER HAS LEFT THE OFFICES. THE NEXT PERSON WITH THE SENIORITY WAS ABLE TO MOVE IN THROUGH THE OPEN UP. THAT PERSON DIDN'T WANT IT. THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE MOVED WAS ACTUALLY GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS. ARE WE SEEKING TO QUANTIFY THIS NOW OR THE GARLAND? I DON'T HAVE A I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD WORK. I MEAN, WHEN I CAME IN, I WAS ASSIGNED AN OFFICE. I WAS FINE WITH IT. I GUESS WE CAN HAVE THE OPTION. I MEAN, SO WHEN I CAME IN, I THINK I BELIEVE MYSELF. COMMISSIONER POLACCO. AND YOU CAME IN AT THE SAME TIME. SO IS THERE LIKE A FLIP OF A COIN TO CHOOSE OFFICES? I MEAN, I WAS FIRED IN MY OFFICE, BUT IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO CHANGE OFFICES, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD WORK, ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU CAME ON BOARD. I HAD MY OFFICE WAS CURRENTLY WHERE VICE MAYOR. AND MICHELLE PARKER IS ALREADY IN OFFICE, AND SO SHE WAS IN HER OFFICE WHEN YOU CAME ON BOARD, I BECAME MAYOR, SO I TOOK MARRABLE, THEN AVAILABLE OFFICES WERE. YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE OFFICE BY VICE MAYOR LOGO'S AND YOUR OFFICE, COMMISSIONER [03:35:07] GELIN, WHICH WAS COMMISSIONED WALTER'S OFFICE, WAS AN EXTENSION OF COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S OFFICE. NO, I DON'T RECALL. SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK THE PURPOSES THAT WAY, I THINK THAT THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE, WE GET THE OPTION AND THE NEW PERSON ON THE BLOCK WILL GO INTO THE OFFICE THAT WAS THERE. SO IF THERE WAS THAT WAS HOW I WAS USED TO BE DONE. THEY LEAVE. ALL THESE OFFICES ARE THE SAME SIZE, JUST WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED IN A ROOM. SO IT'S ON THIS LIST AS SOMETHING THAT WE WISH TO DISCUSS AND PUT INTO WRITING FOR OUR POLICY, FOR PROCEDURES FOR PEOPLE FOR THE NEXT TIME AROUND. SO. OK, CLAP, CLAP. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO HELP ALONG THIS? AS I RECALL, WHEN SOMEONE LEFT AND THERE WAS A VACANT OFFICE, AS YOU SAID, THE SENIOR PERSON, DO YOU WANT THAT OFFICE? YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE? I WAS OFFERED WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE VICE MAYOR'S OFFICE, BUT I CHOSE TO STAY WHERE I AM. I MEAN, I'M I'M FINE. IT'S AN OFFICE, SO I'M GOOD. SO WHEN THE VICE MAYOR CAME IN, HE TOOK THE OPEN OFFICE. SO I'M NOT SURE THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. I GUESS TECHNICALLY, I THOUGHT THAT PROCEDURE WAS TO OFFER THE NEXT PERSON WITH SENIORITY, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN COMMISSIONER BOLTON, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT HE WANTED THE OFFICE VACATED BY COMMISSIONER FISHMAN AT THAT TIME. AND IF HE SAID NO, THEN THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE WOULD BE MR. GELIN TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT HE WOULD HAVE WISHED THAT OFFICE. AND IF THERE'S NO, THEN THE NEW PERSON, WHICH IS AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT'S NOT GOING TO LOVE US, GETS IT. THAT IS FINE WITH THE CUSTOMARY PRACTICE TO PUT INTO WRITING FOR FUTURE MISSIONS, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. AS I SAID, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THE LIST HERE, TRYING TO MOVE THIS MATTER ALONG. WHO BROUGHT THIS UP? I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE. IT WAS. ON THE LIST, SO MISSION BOLTON. I HAVE NOT SEEN THE LIST WHERE WHERE THAT WAS LISTED. IT IS IN YOUR BACKUP. IT IS THE PART THAT WE GAVE JUST FOR PUBLICATION. IT IS JUST TWO LEVELS. ONE FROM THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS IN THE PACKAGE. ALSO, SINCE I RECEIVED SOME COMMENTS AFTER EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT TO THE COMMISSION, I SENT A MEMO LAST NIGHT OUTLINING SOME OF THE CUSTOM AND PRACTICE ISSUES. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR LAST NIGHT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I READ MY NOTES THAT I HAD ALL THE COMMENTS. SO THAT WAS A MEMO FROM ME RELATING TO SOME OF CUSTOMERS. SO EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION AND THE MANAGER AND ASSISTANT MANAGER WE SEE THAT KNOW THAT WE COME THROUGH LAST NIGHT AND READ IT THIS MORNING. AND THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO USE TO GET THROUGH THIS. LET'S JUST TO THIS ORGANIZED, BECAUSE AS EVERYBODY HAS ALREADY SAID MONDAY, THERE'S A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE WHICH MOVE TO A SPECIFIC WORKSHOP FOR THIS TO BE DISCUSSED, ALL THESE MATTERS TO BE DISCUSSED AT A WORKSHOP. SO AND SO ON, POINT NUMBER TWO, THERE WAS DISCUSSION REGARDING PROCEDURES OF THE PAST, YOU WISH TO MAKE THIS A POLICY, YOUR COMMISSION OFFICES FOR THE NEXT MISSION. I MEAN, I THINK IN THIS REGARD, I THINK IT'S AN ITEM, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY. OK, SO THE WAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN, IT IT SAYS COMMISSIONERS MAY CHANGE OFFICES AFTER AN ELECTION. IT DOES NOT SAY IT DOES NOT SAY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER. CORRECT. OK, SO IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE POLICY, I THINK ALL OF US HAS TO BE TREATED [03:40:02] THE SAME. IT HAS TO SAY MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER, NOT JUST COMMISSIONERS. THAT IS YOUR OPINION, THAT IS NOT IS NOT IS NOT NECESSARILY AN OPINION. I'M ASKING IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. THE LANGUAGE HAS TO CHANGE THAT, SAYS MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER BOLTON. AS YOU LIKE TO PUT IT, SOMETIMES EVERYTHING IS NOT EQUAL. AND THE COMMISSION OFFICERS ARE COMMISSION OFFICERS. EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION HAS EQUAL OFFICERS. AND YES, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE COMMISSION OFFICE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS JUST THAT. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? IT'S THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, AND THAT'S WHERE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE VOTED UPON BY THIS FIRM AND THEY HAVE THEIR OFFICES. SO, SO SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH PUTTING THIS IN A POLICY WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FIVE OFFICES THAT ALL OF US SHARE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OR YOUR OFFICE? EXCEPT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS EXEMPT. THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. MARLAN, COMMISSIONER BALTON, THE YOU OFFICES COMMISSIONER, THEY'RE ALL THE SAME. AND WE HAPPEN TO BE A VERY FORTUNATE COMMISSION BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IN EVERY OTHER CITY HAPPENS TO HAVE TO HAVE A BULLPEN. OK, SO WHAT WHAT I HEARD FROM THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE IS THAT CHANGING OFFICES IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION, NOT NECESSARILY CUSTOMARY PRACTICES. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THESE THE CUSTOMARY PRACTICES TO CHOOSE ON OR CHANGE OFFICES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT AS A AS A ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION AND A FUNCTION OF THE THE ADMINISTRATORS TO MOVE OFFICES AS THEY SEE FIT. IF NOT, ALTERNATIVELY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ALL OFFICE. IT'S NOT JUST COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE. FINALLY, AS THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT IS HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. THOSE ARE THE POLICIES FOR THAT REASON. AND I IF THIS IS A DISCUSSION, IT'S IT'S NOT A BANANA REPUBLIC. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY. AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY STANDS UP, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. I HAD SEVERAL OF US, SO I KEEP HEARING THE WORD THIS IS HOW WE USED TO DO THINGS. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE THOSE WORDS. SO WHAT'S THE CONCLUSION FOR THAT ONE ITEM? I'M SO CONFUSED. I THINK EVERYBODY IS CONFUSED AND ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM FOR THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO HANDLE THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION OFFICERS, NOT COMMISSION OFFICERS, THE ATTORNEY PLACE. THIS MAN IS A POLICY ISSUE. IT'S NOT A LEGAL ISSUE. I BELIEVE MARRIAGE WILL BE PROBABLY A PERSON TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. IT'S NOT A THERE'S NO LEGAL ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO THE SELECTION OF THIS. NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FROM MY STANDPOINT, THE LAW IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS AND NOT TRUMP TO AND AN OFFICE THAT'S JUST AN OFFICE, THE INCLUSION OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER OFFICE? I'M JUST I'M HEARING THERE'S A COMMISSIONER THAT WE'RE OUT HERE. WE'RE ALL EQUAL. I SAID WE'VE CONCLUDED. HOW IS IT THAT I'M HEARING THAT ONE OFFICER IS PREPARED TO THE OTHERS AND I JUST WANT PRIORITY. CITY MANAGER MIKE TRUSTEE, SURE THE SO TO TRY TO CLARIFY THE THERE IS THERE ARE FIVE OFFICERS IN THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE THERE. THERE IS A LARGER OFFICE THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OCCUPIED BY THE MAYOR. THERE ARE FOUR OTHER OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN OCCUPIED BY THE COMMISSIONER AND THOSE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN ROTATED AFTER ELECTION BASED ON THE SENIORITY OF THE COMMISSIONER THAT ARE LEFT. NEW COMMISSIONERS TYPICALLY TAKE THE OFFICERS THAT ARE EITHER AVAILABLE OR HAVE BEEN VACATED. AND THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S HOW WE HANDLED IT. THIS IS NOT POLICY AS WE ARE TRYING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE RESIDENTS, ARE WE? NO, I HAVE MY HAND UP. SO IF IT'S IF IT'S A MATTER OF SENIORITY, RIGHT. IF SOMEBODY WALKS OFF THE STREET AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO RUN AGAINST THE MEITNER, [03:45:03] WHICH A FRESH RESIDENT, NOBODY KNOWS, MAYBE THE RESIDENT IS A MAJOR AWAY PRESIDENT SOMEWHERE IN MY DISTRICT AND WINS AN ELECTION AGAINST THE MAYOR. AND THE MAYOR IS NO LONGER IN OFFICE. IT'S A MATTER OF SENIORITY. THEN COMMISSIONER PLECO SHOULD HAVE FIRST DIBS AS TO SAY, OH, I WANT TO MOVE TO THE OFFICE THAT THE MAYOR USED TO HAVE, AND THE THE PERSON COMING IN WOULD HAVE THE LOWEST SENIORITY SO THAT THE PERSON WOULD CHOOSE FROM THE OTHER FOUR OFFICES THAT IS THERE. AND IF I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE MY OFFICE, THEN THAT PERSON RECEIVES COMMISSIONER COLE'S OLD OFFICE. SO SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT IS FAIR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IRAQ. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU, MAYOR. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE ELECTED OFFICIALS AS THEY AS THEY COME IN. THIS JUST TALKS ABOUT AFTER AN ELECTION. SO IT'S THE SAME IT'S THE SAME WAY. IF IT LET'S SAY YOU REMAIN IN YOUR OFFICE NOW AND LET'S SAY THE GOVERNOR RUNS AGAINST YOU BECAUSE HE WINS, WHICH HE PROBABLY WOULD, HE HE WOULD YET GET YOUR OFFICE BECAUSE HE WAS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT I MOVING INTO THAT OFFICE. SO WE'RE SETTING THIS UP FOR THE FUTURE. SO I KNOW THAT YOUR SEAT MAY SUDDENLY FEEL LIKE IT HAS PINS AND NEEDLES, BUT WE WANT RESOLUTION FOR RESOLUTIONS FOR EACH OF THESE ITEMS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE ON TO OTHER ITEMS AND JUST LEAVE THEM IN THE AIR. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR COLLEAGUES WHAT THEY WANT AND HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED. WELL, MR. BOLTON, IN YOUR EXAMPLE, IF COMMISSIONER GARLAND BEATS ME AS MAYOR WITH HE RUNS AGAINST ME AND COMMISSIONER FLOCCO IS STIL IN, COMMISSIONER FLOCCO WOULD HAVE THE SENIOR ALREADY AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SEAT AS A MAN RIGHT AT HIS COMMAND. AND I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. YOU JUST ASKED THE QUESTION IS, COMMISSIONER POLACCO SAYS, HEY, WELL, I'M FINE WITH MY OFFICE. AND I'M SURE SHE'S GRACEFUL ENOUGH TO SAY THAT BECAUSE SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN GRACEFUL. THAT'S THE KIND OF PERSON SHE IS, ALWAYS A UNIFIER. NO FIGHTS, NO BULLIES, JUST IS A UNIFIER. I THINK THAT SHE WOULD PROBABLY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I LIKE MY OFFICE. COMMISSIONER GARLAND, GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR OFFICE. SO IF IT'S GOING TO REMAIN A ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, IT IS GOING TO REMAIN AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION. THE LANGUAGE HAS TO SAY MAYOR AND COMMISSION OFFICE, CANVASING COMMISSION OFFICES. SO TO GET THE PINS AND NEEDLES FROM OFFICE, YOUR MAYOR, I DON'T WANT YOUR OFFICE, NOT AT THIS TIME. I THINK THAT ONE DAY IF I WANTED TO, I WILL EARN IT PROBABLY AFTER COMMISSIONER GARLAND IS MAYOR. SO GET OFF THE PINS AND NEEDLES. RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT AS A STAFF FUNCTION, AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION, MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS MAYOR AND COMMISSION OFFICE IS WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE POLICY THAT WE ALL HAVE TO BE TREATED THE SAME WAY WE CAN MOVE ON AND JUST LEAVE THIS IN THE AIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINIONS, VICE. MATTER OF US, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. IT IS A MATTER OF LANGUAGE ISSUE THAT WE ARE GOING TO AGREE ON. IS THAT BOTTOM LINE? YES, ANYONE ELSE BESIDES BOB? SO TO REINFORCE ALL ALONG THAT MR. GAGNON THIS IS WHETHER OR NOT PUT THESE PRACTICES INTO WRITING IS WHERE IT IS NECESSARY. YEAH, I THINK THEY JUST SHOULD BE A LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL COURTESY FOR A BODY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS WHERE, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE AGREES ON SOMETHING. BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, AS BOTH HAVE WORKED AT OTHER CITIES IN THE PAST, AND THE KNOW THE CONFIGURATION OF OTHER OFFICES. SO IS IT TYPICAL FOR THE MAYOR TO HAVE A LARGER OFFICE THAN THE REST OF THE ELECTED BODY? BASED ON YOUR PAST EXPERIENCE OF OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, GO AHEAD AND I GUESS START WITH THAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND AND EVERY CITY THAT I'VE WORKED, THE MAYOR HAS HAD AN OFFICE THAT WAS SEPARATE FROM THE COMMISSION [03:50:01] OFFICES. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN TWO OF THE CITIES THAT I WORKED IN, THE MAYOR WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD AN OFFICE. THE COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY DIDN'T. BUT EVERYWHERE I'VE WORKED, THE MAYOR HAS HAD AN OFFICE THAT WAS DISTINCTIVE, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. AND I CONCUR WITH THE CITY MANAGER. AND IN FACT, I HAVE SEEN CITY HALLS BUILT SOME GROUND UP. AND GENERALLY THE DESIGN HAS MADE SURE THAT THEY HAD A BIG OFFICE AND LIKE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. SO THE CITY MANAGER IS CORRECT AND IN HIS ASSESSMENT. OK, THANK YOU. AND I HAVE NOT DECLARED ANY RUN FOR ANY OTHER OFFICE, SO PLEASE USE MY NAME MENTIONED ABOVE. AND I WAS I WAS I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS. MY APOLOGIES AND CONSIDERING WHAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND SAID, BUT THE ATTORNEY AND THE MATTER SAID, AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT WE'RE ALL EQUAL. SO GOING FORWARD, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LANGUAGE COMMISSION AND THEIR OFFICES. AND WE THIS FIGHT ON, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. YES OR NO. NOW, THERE IS ONE THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE OF THE LANGUAGE AND THAT'S QUITE POSSIBLE. SO CAN WE JUST ADD IT OR NOT? ADD IT TO MY QUESTION. WE CAN MOVE ON. YOU JUST NEED TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION. THAT'S WHAT REALLY THE ISSUE. WHAT WE CAN DO IS TO GIVE INSTRUCTIONS OR NOT TO GIVE INSTRUCTIONS TO GIVE YOU ADD. OK, SO CAN WE DO THAT NOW? CAN WE GIVE THE CITY MANAGER INSTRUCTIONS TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY, BOTH MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER OFFICE? YOU WANT TO SAY, MAN, COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE MAY CHANGE AFTER AN ELECTION. THERE HAS TO BE CONSENSUS AND THERE'S TWO OTHER HANDS UP TO SPEAK. RIGHT. MR. BOLTON, ARE YOU DONE BY. YES, MR. BOLTON, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IF IT'S IF IT'S GOING TO BE A MATTER OF SENIORITY, THEN I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO ADD THE LANGUAGE OF MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER BECAUSE THEN COMMISSIONER PLUCKER COULD THEORETICALLY TAKE COMMISSIONER GARLAND BIG OFFICE. SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT TO HIM. SO I JUST WANT THAT I JUST WANT, THOUGH, THAT THIS REMAINS A STYLE FUNCTION AND THAT IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION OF THIS, OF IT ALL, THAT IT'S THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT THE CITY MANAGER MAKES THE DECISION TO SHUFFLE ALL FIVE OFFICERS, NOT NOT JUST FOR IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE'RE GOING TO SHUFFLE OFFICES, IT HAS TO BE ALL FIVE. AND I THINK ANY SMART CITY MANAGER WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, JUST LEAVE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AS IS, BECAUSE THAT CITY MANAGER WOULD NOT WAN TO GET ON THE WRONG ON THE WRONG SIDE OF COMMISSIONER GEHLING BEING MAYOR. SO, YOU KNOW, LEAVE IT AS IT IS AS A STAFF FUNCTION. BUT AS THE STAFF FUNCTION, LEAVE THE DON'T DON'T JUST SAY COMMISSIONERS, A MAYOR AND COMMISSION OFFICES AS A STAFF FUNCTION AND AS THE POLICY AS A AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN PLAY FOR. NOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND SAYS WHERE YOU'RE MOVING THIS TOPIC ALONG, COMMISSIONER GARLAND. SO I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT AS IS, UNLESS WE WE DROP DISTRICTS, IF WE DROP DISTRICTS AND EVERYONE HAS TO RUN CITYWIDE, THEN ANYONE CAN VIE FOR IT. BUT SINCE THE MAYOR HAS TO RUN CITYWIDE AND WORK A LITTLE BIT HARDER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE AND THEY SHOULD GET THE OFFICE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, AND IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE IT, THEN WE'LL JUST TAKE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA. BUT IN ANY CASE, I BELIEVE WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A NEW CITY HALL, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE ALL OFFICES ARE THE SAME SIZE. SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. LET'S MOVE ON. SO WE'LL JUST WE'LL JUST LEAVE THIS ALONE, IN MY ESTIMATION, MAN, TO THE FUTURE. WE'RE JUST WE'LL JUST LEAVE THIS ALONE. I HAVE OTHER I HAVE BIGGER FISH TO FRY, SO TO SPEAK. [03:55:05] AND I DON'T KNOW YOUR OFFICE AT THIS TIME. IN THE FUTURE, IT COULD CHANGE. I WOULD JUST TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT THAT YOU LIKE HOW I'VE HAD IT REDESIGNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH DIRECTION TO STAFF IS GIVEN AS A COLLECTIVE BODY TO THE CITY MANAGER, CITY MANAGER? I THINK THIS ONE IS A REQUEST FOR US. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO GAVE IT THE DIRECTIONS THE DIRECTION WAS GIVEN WAS GIVEN TO COME BACK WITH CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES. AND SO OBVIOUSLY WE ASKED THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR FOR CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES TO DEAL SPECIFICALLY WITH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COMMISSION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ASKED WAS TO JUST TO REAFFIRM THE DIRECTION THE STAFF HAS GIVEN AS A COLLECTIVE BODY THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, MEANING WHEN THE COMMISSION WANTS SOMETHING DONE AND IMPLEMENTED, IT'S THE COMMISSION THAT DECIDES IT'S NOT A SINGLE MEMBER OF THE BODY. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE. BUT AGAIN, I WAS ASKED WHEN WE PUT THIS TOGETHER TO TO RAISE THAT FOR CLARIFICATION. MILLION I WASN'T FOR, SO THEN I DO THINK I READ THAT WRONG COMMISSION FLOCCO THEN I WAS FIRST AND COMMISSION TO BLOCK THOSE HANDS OF YOURS AND ABOUT GARLAND. SO MRS. ALARCON-FLORY. I DON'T CARE IF I GO FIRST TO CHARITY THIS YEAR. STANAGE, COULD YOU COULD YOU PLEASE DEFINE FOR ME SOMETHING IMPLEMENTED BY THAT. I MEAN IF I HAVE A CODE ISSUE I GO DIRECTLY TO SCOTT, I DON'T GO THROUGH YOU. I MEAN IF WE DO THAT, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO STOP READING EMAILS. RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE SITTING NEXT TO ANYBODY, NOT YOU. PLEASE MUTE. OK. THAT'S BETTER. YEAH, YEAH, SO NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. FOR INSTANCE, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH EACH ONE OF YOU ON THINGS LIKE CODE ISSUES, CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS, ANY ONE OF THOS THINGS. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY POLICY FOR THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES. FOR THE THE COMMISSIONER TO IN THE CASE OF CODE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE, COMMISSIONER. YOU KNOW, CODE, THERE ARE SO MANY COMPLAINTS TO YOU REGARDING CODE. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE RESOLUTION TO THAT QUICKLY. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S A CODE ISSUE, WE WE WE'VE ESTABLISHED A RAPPORT WITH YOU WHERE YOU GO TO SCOTT, YOU COPY ME. SCOTT RESPONDS DIRECTLY TO YOU WITH A COPY TO MAXINE AND TO MYSELF SO THAT WE STILL REMAIN ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT IT. BUT IT GETS DONE MORE EFFICIENTLY THAT WAY. I BELIEVE THAT THAT THIS THIS IS NOT THAT'S NOT YOU'RE NOT GIVING DIRECTION TO SCOTT. YOU'RE SIMPLY MAKING SCOTT AWARE OF A CODE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU. AND SCOTT'S DOING HIS JOB BECAUSE THERE MAY BE INSTANCES WHERE YOU'D LIKE HIM TO DO ONE THING, BUT HE HAS TO INTERPRET THE CODE. HE CAN GO OUT AND HE'S GOT TO HANDLE IT A DIFFERENT WAY. AND THAT'S JUST A REALLY A REPORTING ISSUE. I THINK THAT THE ISSUE HERE IS JUST IT'S JUST THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THE COMMISSION DECIDES ISSUES AS A BODY AND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE IMPLEMENT BASED ON THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE. CORRIDOR WALLS ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD FROM EACH ONE OF YOU, WE NEED TO BUILD A WALL HERE OR WE NEED TO BUILD A WALL THERE. AND I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE EMAILED TO JACK SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD BE INCLUDED WITH WITH THE WALLS THAT ARE BEING BUILT OR WE SHOULD ADD THIS ON, YOU KNOW, OR WE SHOULD MOVE WE SHOULD MOVE ACROSS THE STREET INSTEAD OF DOING THIS SECTION. IN THOSE INSTANCES. THOSE ARE NOT THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT BACK TO THE TO THE ENTIRE BODY AND GET DIRECTION FROM THE ENTIRE BODY BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A CHANGE LIKE LIKE THAT. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THIS. IT'S JUST ONE OF THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP LIKE, OK. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, YOUR MUTED. ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO. BASICALLY, WHEN I HAVE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WE USUALLY TALK ABOUT IT IN AGENDA REVIEW OR OTHER THAN THAT, BUT I GUESS BASICALLY IF IT COSTS MONEY, WE HAVE [04:00:01] TO GO THROUGH YOU. IF IT'S SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN GO DIRECTLY TO SCOTT BECAUSE OTHERWISE I WOULD MAKE YOU CRAZY WITH ALL OF THE THE REQUESTS I GET AND CONCERNS YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON. I'M THINKING MY QUESTION TO THE BLACK HOLE. YES, YOU ARE. SO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF LIKE A CODE ISSUED BLACK OF DAY, ISN'T IT? I KNOW. I LOVE YOU. I LOVE YOU. OK, I'M LIKE AN INSTANCE OF CODE. YO, GIVE ME AN INSTANCE OF A CODE ISSUE IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO OPEN, YOU DON'T WANT TO LOAD UP. MR. SAANICH, YOU YOU GOT TO START FOR OK. I DO. AND I GET A COMPLAINT. THE VISIBILITY OF THE LANDSCAPING ON ANY FIRST STREET. WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT OF LAKEWOOD, THE VISIBILITY IS BAD. THEY CAN'T SEE BECAUSE THE BUSHES ARE TOO HIGH. SO I WENT TO SCOTT AND HE HAD IT TAKEN CARE OF FOR ME. HE HAD THE LANDSCAPING CUT DOWN. THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE. OK, SO SO YOU WOULD SAY TO SCOTT, SCOTT, THE GRASS IS TOO HIGH. CAN YOU HAVE SOMEONE CUT IT AND BASICALLY TELL THEM A RESIDENT HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THE SHRUBBERY BEING TOO HIGH, THE VISIBILITY. COULD YOU PLEASE LOOK INTO IT? AND HE COMES BACK TO ME AND TELLS ME WE HAD TO CUT DOWN. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ISSUES LIKE THAT. OK, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH NOW. THERE, THERE THERE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST ISSUES THAT I'VE RUN INTO THE SAME EXACT SCENARIO AND THE CITY MANAGER, WHEN WHEN I WAS PROBABLY ON THE FAILING SIDE OF THE BOAT, MAYBE FOUR TO ONE, WOULD WOULD ISSUE ME STERN WARNINGS, SAYING YOU CANNOT YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT DIRECT MY STAFF. AND I HAVE I HAVE ONE SUCH A STERN WARNING THAT HE HE ISSUED TO ME AND THAT MAXINE CALAWAY WAS WITH C ON THAT EMAIL. UNDER THAT SCENARIO, YOU ARE DIRECTING STAFF, WHICH IN TURN IS AGAINST THE CITY CHARTER. SO YOU WOULD BE STEPPING ON MR. ON THE TOES OF THE CITY MANAGER. WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT I THINK WE ALL HAVE RUN AFOUL OF OUR DIRECTING STAFF, OR AT LEAST SOME OF US HAVE HAVE RUN AFOUL OF DIRECTING STAFF BECAUSE BECAUSE WE UP YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW. WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE LAW. RIGHT. BUT IT'S BECAUSE I THINK THAT SOMEBODY DOESN'T KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU JUST ELECTED, YOU HAVE NO CLUE. ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE. IT'S LIKE YOU COME IN AND YOU THINK LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD UNTIL SOMEBODY BRINGS YOU ALONG AND SAY, HEY, YOU GOT TO SHAPING UP. RIGHT. BUT BUT I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, HAS THE TEACHER'S PET, SO TO SPEAK, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF THE YEAR IT IS. SO REALLY AND TRULY MY SCENARIO THEN IS LET'S SAY I HAVE A. I HAVE A JOB AND I HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM COMING UP. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT I WANT TO START A BOARD CALLED SISTER CITIES. BEN. I SAY, HEY, CITY, THE MANAGER, CAN YOU HAVE A STAFF DRAFT OF ALL OF THE THE AGENDA ITEMS FROM THE BACK UP? RIGHT. AND THEN THAT BACK UP WOULD GO TO THE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE BECAUSE ALL I WANT IS BACK UP. RIGHT. SO UNDER THIS SCENARIO, THE CITY MANAGER IS SAYING, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY MEETING FIRST, SAY THAT YOU WANT SOMETHING TO BE DONE. THEN WE AS A COLLECTIVE BODY WOULD. DIRECTS HIM AND THEN STAFF WOULD MAKE THE BACKUP INFORMATION. WE COME BACK AND VOTE ON IT. THAT IS THE LONGER WAY. SO THE LONGER WAIT IS WE COMPLICIT IN THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING WITH A [04:05:06] BLANK SLATE AND WE SAY, HEY, THIS IS THIS IS MY IDEA, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE STAFF DO WHATEVER THEY DO IT AS A PART OF THE BACK UP AND THEN COME BACK TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE THERE'S NOW A BACKUP. THE SORTA EASIEST WAY IS FOR ME TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE MANAGER AND SAY, HEY, CITY MANAGER, I HAVE AN IDEA THAT I WANT TO TO DO HERE IS WHAT I WANT, HOW STAFF RESEARCH FOR ME GET BACKUP INFORMATION SO I CAN GO TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO HAVE IT VOTED ON. SO. SO ARE YOU SAYING, MANAGER, THAT YOU'RE NOT COOL WITH THAT, THAT YOU WANT US TO GO TO A MEETING FIRST, DISCUSS IT, AND THEN DIRECT YOU THROUGH DIRECT STOCK TO YOU, AND THEN COME BACK TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING? I MEAN. AND THAT'S OK, AND THEN I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE OF THE RUTH BADER GINSBURG COMMISSION ORDINANCE THAT WAS THAT WAS PROPOSED BEFORE YOU REQUESTED YOU REQUESTED THAT THAT GO ON AND THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. AND IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, YOU ASKED ME IF STAFF WOULD PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION TO INFORM YOUR COLLEAGUES OF WHAT THE RUTH BADER GINSBURG. WHAT DID IN THE CITY, I BELIEVE, IN THE CITY OF MIRAMAR, AND SO, FOR INSTANCE, LAURA PUT THAT PRESENTATION TOGETHER FOR YOU AND MADE THAT PRESENTATION IN ADVANCE OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ORDINANCE. I THINK WE DID THE SAME THING FOR COMMISSIONER GARLAND OR I'M NOT REMEMBERING EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT WAS AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE. SAME SAME THING THAT HE WANTED THE CITY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER. AND IN ADVANCE OF DISCUSSING THAT WITH THE COMMISSION, I BELIEVE THAT OUR OFFICE PUT TOGETHER A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO PRESENT SOME BACKGROUND ON THE MATTER SO THAT THE COMMISSION COULD DISCUSS IT. SO IN THAT CASE, YES, YOU HAVE AN IDEA. YOU ASKED FOR PROPOSALS FOR THAT. WE PUT IT TOGETHER, YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT IT, AND THEN YOU DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER AND OR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION. BRING BACK SOMETHING FOR YOUR APPROVAL. THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE'VE HANDLED THOSE. USAIN, INVOLVED IN YOUR MIND, SORRY, MARRIAGE. I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING THAT IF I HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT I WANT TO BE DRAFTED BECAUSE LIKE I WANTED TO BE VOTED ON AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING AND I SAY TO THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE, I WANT A RESOLUTION CONDEMNING THE ACTIONS OF TRUMP OR 45 AS COMMISSIONER GO AND CALL THEM THEN. ISN'T THAT THE SAME THING TO, LIKE, GET IT PREPARED AND THEN COME TO A COMMISSION MEETING AND AND HAVE AND DISCUSS IT AND AN GO THROUGH IT? ISN'T THAT ISN'T THAT THE SAME THING? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME THING, COMMISSIONER. WHAT I KNOW IS THAT THE COMMISSION THE COMMISSION'S DIRECTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES TO DISCUSS THEM AND THEN DIRECT THE MANAGER OR THE ATTORNEY. THAT'S THAT'S BEEN THE DIRECTION UP TO THIS POINT. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR THE DISCUSSION TODAY, IS THAT IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO CHANGE THAT, THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION WHERE THE CITY IS. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR MR. OTTENHOFF, BUT I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER ARE GOING TO FACILITATE THOSE CHANGES, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DIRECT. SO, SO, SO MANAGER UNDER IF WE IF WE CHANGE IT RIGHT, I CAN NO LONGER COME TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, LET'S RESEARCH A RUTH BADER GINSBURG COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN SO THAT I CAN DISCUSS IT AT THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE I COULD NOT I CANNOT DIRECT YOU AS A COMMISSIONER. I HAVE TO DIRECT YOU AS A BODY CORPORATE. AND THAT WOULD FRUSTRATE EVERYBODY, BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO A COMMISSION MEETING AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE AN IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, OF RUTH BADER GINSBURG INSTEAD OF SOME WOMEN IDEA DIRECT YOU TO THEN HAVE STAFF GO IN AND DO SOMETHING AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. I THINK THAT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. COMMISSIONER BOLTON? I DON'T THINK WE'RE SAYING THAT. I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. I MEAN, I THINK THE PRACTICE HAS BEEN THAT WHEN WHEN YOU ASK FOR THINGS TO BE BROUGHT [04:10:02] FORWARD AND PUT ON THE AGENDA, THEY ARE. AND IF YOU ASK FOR STAFF SUPPORT FOR THAT, IT'S GIVEN. I THINK THE ONLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHETHER OR NOT A COMMISSIONER IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY CAN ASK FOR A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE TO BE TO BE DRAFTED. I MEAN, I'LL GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THINGS THAT DON'T NEED TO COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION, I THINK, ARE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER POLACCO RAISE THE ISSUE OF CODE ISSUES TO CODE COMPLIANCE DOESN'T COME TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO CODE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE IT'S A CODE ISSUE. AND IF SHE HAS A RESIDENT'S CONCERN ABOUT A CODE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO THE CODE MANAGER AND ASKING HIM TO HAVE ONE OF HIS OFFICERS DEAL WITH THAT. IF YOU NEED SOMETHING, CONSIDER ON A COMMISSION AGENDA. YOU'RE GOING TO TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT ON AN AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE ENTIRE COMMISSION BECAUSE IT REQUIRES COMMISSION ACTION. ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE YOU RECENTLY HAD A RESIDENT ISSUE OUT IN WOODLAND'S, A STATE WHERE THERE'S WATER PONDING BECAUSE THERE IS DAMAGE TO THE STREET CAUSED BY TREE ROOTS AND IN THE MEDIA THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED. AND YOU ASK FOR STAFF HELP IN DEALING WITH THE COMMUNITY, SOME TALKING POINTS AND AND THINGS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT. AND I THINK THAT STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH YOU ON SITE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS SO THAT YOU CAN TALK AN STAFF AND TALK WITH THE COMMUNITY. I, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE MIXING APPLES AND ORANGES HERE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO GIVE DIRECTION THE COMMISSION IS REQUIRED TO GIVE DIRECTION WHEN WE ARE HELPING YOU WITH CONSTITUENT ISSUES AND DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. THAT'S THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN TERMS OF GETTING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND HAVING STAFF SUPPORT FOR IT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE. THE ONLY QUESTION IS, IS DO YOU DOES THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER DRAFT RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES THAT THE DIRECTION OF OF A COMMISSIONER AND THE COMMISSION HAS HAS NEVER DONE THAT? THEY'VE ALWAYS SAID NO, THEY'LL DISCUSS IT AND THEY'LL THEN DIRECT. AND AGAIN, THAT IF THAT'S IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO CHANGE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO SAY. SO, I MEAN, I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THE WHAT HE BELIEVES THE CODE SAYS. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT INTERPRETATION THAN WHAT THE PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY THOUGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S OK. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CLARIFY IT AND AGREE. SO SO THEN YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN DIRECT TO. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T DIRECT YOU AS EACH COMMISSIONER TO HAVE STUFF TO DO SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE TO DIRECT YOU AS A BODY CORPORATE. NO, COMMISSIONER. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE ARE THERE ARE THINGS THAT REQUIRE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION AND THEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP EVERY DAY THAT THAT DO NOT. AND AGAIN, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE CORRECTION OF THE COMMISSION, THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH YOU TO GET IT RESOLVED. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMISSION, LIKE THE CREATION OF A BOARD OR A COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOUR INITIATIVES ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE MOVED TO THESE INITIATIVES, BUDGETS, WHERE AS INDIVIDUALS YOU ARE NOW DOING INITIATIVES THAT INCLUDE MAILINGS AND EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THAT, STAFF HAVE TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH EACH ONE OF YOU TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR YOUR GOALS. AND SO, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, IF COMMISSIONER VILLA-LOBOS WANTS TO SEND OUT A VALENTINE'S DAY MAILER, WE'RE NOT BRINGING THAT TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO SAY, WOULD YOU PLEASE DIRECT US TO ASSIST THE COMMISSIONER IN DEVELOPING HIS MAIL? OR COMMISSIONER GARLAND WANTS TO DO AN ANNUAL REPORT. WE'RE NOT ASKING THE COMMISSION TO DIRECT US TO HEALTH COMMISSIONER GARLAND WITH THE ANNUAL REPORT. BUT IF COMMISSIONER GARLAND WANTS TO ESTABLISH A SISTER CITY COMMITTEE, WE'RE BRINGING THAT TO THE COMMISSION TO SAY GIVE US DIRECTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT US TO DRAFT LEGISLATION TO TO MAKE THA HAPPEN, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION. AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID IS SO CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING IN ONE SENSE I CAN DIRECT YOU, BUT IN ANOTHER SENSE I CAN'T DIRECT YOU DIRECTLY. DIRECTION IS DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I DON'T LIKE THE WAY IT IS NOW BECAUSE I'M NOT COMING TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO HAVE MY COLLEAGUES TELL ME IF I CAN IF I CAN DIRECT YOUR IF I IF I CAN GET DIRECTED OR NOT. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THAT'S WHAT HARRY DID TO ME. THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL DID TO ME DURING HARRY'S DAYS. YOU TOLD ME I COULD DO NOTHING UNLESS IT COMES TO THE CITY COMMISSION. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S THAT'S WHY I STOPPED MEETING WITH YOU, BECAUSE WHEN I WOULD MEET WITH YOU, YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, IF YOU GET YOUR YOUR COLLEAGUES TO [04:15:04] SUPPORT YOU, I GUESS WE COULD DO IT. YOU ALWAYS DO THAT TO ME. SO SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE NOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED WHERE OK, YOU CAN YOU CAN DIRECT US TO DO SOMETHING. BUT IN ANOTHER SCENARIO, YOU CAN'T IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, COLUMNISTS AT CERTAIN TIMES OF CHANGE AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT DIRECTION IS DIRECTION. SO MY SENSE IS I'M NOT GOING TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO HAVE MY COLLEAGUES REGULATE ME AND TELL ME WHAT I CAN DIRECT YOU TO DO OR NOT. IF IT'S GOING TO COME TO A COMMISSION MEETING, I'LL DIRECT YOU TO DO IT. YOU DO IT. I BRING FORWARD TO A COMMISSION MEETING AND THAT'S THAT. BUT SO, SO, SO I HOPE YOU YOU YOU HEAR ME. BUT DIRECTION THIS DIRECTION, WE'RE GOING TO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, IT'S IT HAS TO BE DIRECTION FOR EVERYTHING. NOT HERE'S MY SOLO. SO LET'S HAVE DIRECTION FOR YOU. HAVE NO LISTEN. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, MR. MANAGER. I HIRED YOU AND WHEN YOUR BOSS IS TALKING, YOU DON'T OVERSTEP THEM AND OVER SPEAK THEM. ARE WE CLEAR? I HEARD YOU. AND SO I HAVE THE FLOOR AND EVERYONE JUST TONE OUR DIRECTION IS DIRECTION, DIRECTION, RIGHT DIRECTION. THIS DIRECTION IS IF WE'RE GOING TO DIRECT YOU TO DIRECT STAFF, IT HAS TO BE DIRECTION FOR EVERYTHING. IT CAN'T JUST BE OK. WE'LL DIRECT IT FOR SOME THINGS AND WE'LL DIRECT YOU FOR SOMETHING. SO THAT'S MY TWO CENTS. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MY COLLEAGUES FEEL ABOUT THAT. OBVIOUSLY, MY OPINION CAN CHANGE THROUGHOUT THIS CONVERSATION. BUT AS IT STANDS, THAT'S WHERE I AM. BACK TO YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. WE HAVE MENTIONED GARLAND IS ON THE COMMISSION NOW. YES. SO I THINK CLEARLY THE ANSWER IS NO IN TERMS OF DIRECTION GIVEN TO STAFF IS GIVEN AS A COLLECTIVE BODY THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO. AND SO AND JUST USING MY EXAMPLE, I THINK THE ISSUE THAT I BROUGHT UP LAST WEEKEND IN TERMS OF THE CITY JOINING CITIES FOR CITIZENSHIP, I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT COMMISSION APPROVAL. I MEAN, THERE WAS NO COST. SO IT IT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD HAVE DONE AS MAYOR, I BELIEVE, MAYOR GOMEZ. IT'S UP TO THE MAYOR TO SIGN OFF ON THAT. AND I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER HAS SPENDING AUTHORITY FOR WHERE HE DOES HAVE TO BRING ANYTHING TO THE CONVENTION AS LONG AS UNDER SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. BUT AND SO I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT THAT DO NEED TO BE VOTED ON, LIKE SISTER CITIES LIKE MICHIGAN COMMISSIONING A DISPARITY STUDY. AND I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER ON THAT. BUT THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY OR DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA WHERE WE DON'T NEED COMMISSION SUPPORT FOR THAT. WE HAVE THE ITEM DRAFTED. WE GIVE THE DIRECTION HAVE THEY DRAFTED? IT COMES TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN WE VOTE ON IT. SO I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT, COMMISSIONER, BOTH IN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BRING EVERY SINGLE IDEA WE HAVE TO THE COMMISSION, GET APPROVAL AND THEN HAVE SOMETHING DONE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S LEGAL AND TECHNICALLY, OK, YOU'RE THE CITY ATTORNEY, THEN THERE'S NO NEED TO GET A COLLECTIVE SUPPORT. SO I THINK IT WAS A CUSTOM AND PRACTICE TO TRY TO HAVE EVERYBODY SING KUMBAYA AND GET ALONG ON SOMETHING. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE LAW SAYS. SO WE WANT TO THINK OF WHAT THE LAW SAYS. AND IF YOU CAN ADD ANYTHING TO THAT CITY ATTORNEY, THERE WILL BE GREAT. OH, NO, I'M SORRY. NIGHTMARE I. YES, NO, NO, GO AHEAD. OK, YEAH, I OH, MY FIRST. IF I TOLD YOU I WANTED TO OWN IT, BUT THIS. ONCE I GOT TO THE CHAIR, I GARLAND WAS ASKING FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE A COMMENT BASED ON OR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT HE WAS ASKING. SO THE ATTORNEY, PLEASE PROCEED. YES. NOT THIS THIS ISSUE ON PLACEMENT OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. THIS ISSUE IS GOVERNED BY YOUR RULES AND YOUR RULES. MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION CAN PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT ANY PRIOR APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION AS A BODY. I HAVE ADVISED THE SUPERVISOR ON THAT ISSUE WHEN THAT ISSUE WAS BROUGHT [04:20:05] TO ME LAST THE PAST COMMISSION MEETING THE RULES SECTION BASICALLY SECTION TWO, DASH THIRTY FOUR, WHICH DEALS WITH THAT ISSUE. IT MAKES IT CLEAR. I SHOULD BE REQUIREMENT, AND I KNOW AND DISCUSSING THAT I AGREE WITH THE MANAGER, THERE WAS THERE WAS SOME CUSTOM IN PRACTICE THAT THE COMMISSION HAD IN THE PAST. BUT I'M GOING ON YOUR RULES AND I AND MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAW REALLY THAT WAS PASSED BY THE COMMISSION IS IN COMPLIANCE. SO THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR. THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY WITH RESPECT TO THAT ISSUE. ADDITIONALLY, ANOTHER ISSUE I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS THE FACT THAT YOUR CHILD IS YOUR CONSTITUTION. AND THE CHARTER OBVIOUSLY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE COMMISSION CAN NOT DIRECT STAFF. HOWEVER, THE CHARTER DOES NOT PRECLUDE THE COMMISSION MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ASKING QUESTIONS OF STAFF. YOU DON'T YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR RIGHT AS A RESIDENT. IF YOU SEE GARBAGE ON THE STREET, YOU CAN COME IN. IS X WHOEVER THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. HEY, JUST GARBAGE ON THE STREET AT THIS LOCATION SO THE COMMISSION CAN ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS. THE ISSUE IS DIRECTED. YOU WANT TO GIVE A DIRECTIVE WITH RESPECT TO ANYTHING. POLICY WISE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU SPEAK TO THE MANAGER, BUT NEVERTHELESS, YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS RELATING TO MATTERS OF CONCERN TO STAFF. THAT'S WHAT THE LAW PERMITS. OK, THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION SO DIRECT, SO I THINK DIRECTLY THIS TIME GIVEN AS A COLLECTIVE BY THE CITY MANAGERS, I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO, BASED ON MY DESIRE IN COMMISSIONER BOULTING. BUT HOW DOES THAT APPLY WHEN IT COMES TO SPENDING? SO THE COMMISSIONER, THE CITY MANAGER HAS AUTHORITY WITHOUT GOING TO THE COMMISSIONER FOR ANYTHING OTHER 65000. CAN WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO SPEND ON A PROJECT OR AN ITEM AS LONG AS IT'S UNDER FIVE THOUSAND? AGAIN, THAT'S A POLICY ISSUE IF THE CITY MANAGER HAS DISCRETION TO SPEND AN ITEM ON THE 65000, IF THE COMMISSION HAS A BODY, BASICALLY COME TO A DECISION, SAY, MR. MANAGER, I WANT YOU TO DONATE TO A LOCAL CHARITY. AND AND AND HE HAS THE AUTHORITY, LET'S SAY TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO BASED ON HIS AUTHORITY AND THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION AS A BODY, IT CAN TAKE PLACE, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS. NEVERTHELESS, BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER HAS DISCRETION, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE MONEY HAS THE MOST IMMEDIATE. SO SINCE HE HAS DISCRETION TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, UNDER SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS, IF HE FELT THAT A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, HAS A GOOD IDEA, AGAIN, I'M USING A CHARITY EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME RULES UNDER THE CHARTER, HE CAN DO WITHOUT GOING BACK TO THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, SO. SO IT GIVES HIM THE FLEXIBILITY TO ACCEPT GOOD IDEAS FROM THE COMMISSION. BUT ALSO, IF HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE'S DOING ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, HE WOULD OBVIOUSLY EXTRA BODY TO APPROVE IT. SO AGAIN, SO HE WON'T BE ACCUSED OF SAID, I LIKE COMMISSION GARLAND I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO HIM. I DON'T LIKE COMMISSIONER THAT. YEAH. BUT I'M LIKE, SO SO OBVIOUSLY THE BEST PRACTICE IS IF HE'S GOING TO SPEND UNDER THAT TWENTY SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS IS AL JUST TO GET THE COLLECTIVE IF IT'S COMING FROM A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION TO GET THE COLLECTIVE APPROVAL. THANK YOU. DONE. YES, THANK YOU. ARE YOU AVAILABLE? YES, I WAS TRANSITIONING THIS MONTH TO ASK THE QUESTION TO SIT HERE OF. I'M ON MY PHONE THAT JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. CITY MANAGER ON HOW MUCH DOES IT COST US, THE CITY TAXPAYERS PER HOUR FOR EACH MEETING THAT WE HAVE? DO WE KNOW THAT? NO, JUST A RANDOM QUESTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. NO, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. COMMISSIONER VILLA-LOBOS. BUT GIVEN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THIS ON THIS MEETING, IT MIGHT BE IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN WE'D LIKE TO KNOW. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ANNUAL SALARY AND DIVIDE IT BY THE NUMBER OF HOURS IN A [04:25:03] WEEK AND THEN APPLY THAT TO THE NUMBER OF HOURS WE SPENT IN THE COMMISSION MEETING. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. AND GARLAND, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU A SPREADSHEET IF YOU WANT. AS A BODY. AS A BODY. I WAS REFERRING TO. SURE. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S NOT AN ITEM. I THINK HE'S GOING TO GO EAT. WELL, BEFORE GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER BOLTON, SINCE HE SPENDS HIS ROUNDS, I'M GOING TO SHARE MY COMMENTS. I THINK THAT THESE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH. ONE IS THE DIRECTIONS THE STAFF HAS GIVEN AS A COLLECTIVE BODY TO THE CITY MANAGERS. BUT ONE, SIMILARLY, RESOLUTIONS AND AUDIENCES ARE NOT DRAFTS UNTIL THE SUPPORT FOR IT FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION. AND THEN, NO, I GUESS THE NEXT GO DOWN, SKIPPING ONE AND GOING TO THE AGENDA ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION FOR INCLUSION IN THE AGENDA SUBMITTED CITY MANAGER SIX BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR CODE. IT'S NOT A CUSTOM AND PRACTICE. I THINK WHAT IS BEING ASKED HERE IS DIFFERENT LEVELS WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING. CODE ITEMS. GARBAGE ON THE STREET, A PIPE BROKE AND MEDIANS BEING CLEANED UP, RESIDENTS NEEDING HELP WITH THIS, WANTING TO KNOW HOW TO OBTAIN FUNDING THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO. SEND OUR EMAILS TO THE RESPECTIVE CITY EMPLOYEE, TO THE CITY MANAGER, OR WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE IT TO OUR ASSISTANTS HERE AT THE OFFICE, WHETHER IT BE. DOES BENJAMIN GRANDVILLE AND THEN HAVE THAT, THE LAURA COMPANY, TO THINK, SORRY, I JUST MURDERED YOUR LAST NAME AS USUAL, AND HAVE THAT FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURES SO THAT THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS ARE TRACKED? I THINK THE BIGGER THING IS THE ITEMS THAT ARE BEING ASKED TO BE WRITTEN BY THE CITY STAFF FOR PRESENTATIONS AT A MEETING WHICH MAKE IT APPEAR LIKE THESE ARE DONE DEALS WITHOUT HAVING ABILITY TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION FOR SOME OF THE ITEMS. COMMISSIONER GARLAND, YOUR KNOW THERE'S DISCUSSION. PEOPLE WANTED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND ALSO TAKES TIME OUT OF CITY STAFF. SO IF THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, THE INITIATIVES THAT WE WANT TO DO, THEN THESE ARE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE AS A COMMISSION SHOULD BE BRINGING THE BACK UP. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES TO BE ASSISTING US WITH OUR PRESENTATION OF OUR INITIATIVES AND HAVING THAT COME FORWARD. IF THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ORDINANCE OR A POLICY THAT'S GOING TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE USE MONEY AND RESOURCES OUT OF THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONCERN OF THE CITY STAFF IS SOMETIMES WE ASK FOR THOSE THINGS THAT ARE ASKED FOR THAT TAKE A LOT OF TIME WORK BEFORE COMMISSION MEETING AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ENOUGH SUPPORT FOR IT PRIOR TO BEING ASKED TO RACE TO GET IT ONTO A COMMISSION MEETING SIX DAYS BEFORE BUSINESS, DAYS BEFORE A COMMISSION. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I THINK SOME OF THIS IS COMING FROM. AND THEY JUST NEED WE NEED TO BE PUTTING THIS INTO. OUR PRACTICES THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT. WHETHER OR NOT WHICH WAY WE GO WITH IT. THE PREFERRED PRACTICE BY CITY STAFF AT THIS TIME IS THAT IT'S NOT DRAFTED BEFOREHAND, YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA OF SISTER CITIES. YOU HAVE COMMISSIONER GARLAND BRINGING FORTH SISTER CITIES. I HAVE SOME INFORMATION BASED ON SISTER CITIES, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE OR MYSELF PRESENTED AT THE COMMISSION MEETING UNDER 13 AS SOMETHING I WANT TO CONFER WITH YOU TALK TO THE COMMISSION. WE SAY THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF OUR IDEAS AND THEN WE DIRECT THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER OR THE STAFF TO CREATE THE BOARD OR THE ORDINANCES THAT PUT TOGETHER. THAT'S THE TRADITIONAL WAY OF DOING THINGS THAT USE TIME AND MONEY EFFICIENTLY FOR THE PROCESS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN TRYING TO HAVE US UNDERSTAND WHAT IS NEEDED. WE NOW ALSO HAVE OUR INITIATIVE FUNDS FOR US TO DO INITIATIVES, WHICH THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A DISCUSSION COMING UP. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR US ON HOW THAT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES GO. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN INITIATIVE THAT ONE OF US IS TRYING TO DO VERSUS SOMETHING THAT IS A WHOLE COMMISSION DOING TOGETHER AND WORKING TOGETHER AND COMING FROM THE BIG OF BUDGET FUNDING? SO THESE ARE WHERE THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING UP FROM, I BELIEVE, FROM OUR CITY STAFF. MR. BOLTON. SOME OF THEM YOU TALK SO LONG, I FORGOT I WAS GOING TO SAY, OK, SO WITH OK, SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, OK, HERE'S HERE'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. POLITICS AT ALL LEVELS OF. CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA OFF OF VICE MAYOR? THANK YOU. [04:30:02] POLITICS AT ALL LEVELS REQUIRES STAFF TO DRAFT WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THEN BRING IT TO THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. IF IF CONGRESS, FOR INSTANCE, OPERATED LIKE LIKE HOW YOU WANT US TO OPERATE WITH COMING TO THE BODY FIRST, PROPOSE WHAT WE WANT AND THEN GO BACK TO DRAFTED AND THEN DRAFTED AND THEN COME BACK, NOTHING WOULD EVER GET DONE IN THIS COUNTRY. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE BILLS IN CONGRESS OR THE SENATE THAT REALLY YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE FILING BILLS ON A STATE LEVEL, YOU KNOW, YOU GET YOUR BILL, YOU FILE IT. AND IF YOUR COLLEAGUES DON'T LIKE IT, THEY MAY VOTE IT DOWN. AND SOMETIMES YOU YOU YOU YOU HAVE SO MUCH STRIKETHROUGH THAT AT THE END, YOU KNOW, YOUR BILL IS LIKE ALMOST NOTHING. PEOPLE FROM ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT OPERATES THIS WAY AND IT'S THE SAME THING. AND CITY GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, STUFF IS SHOULD BE EMPOWERED TO DRAFT DOCUMENTS OR WHATEVER WE ASK THEM TO TO DRAFT THROUGH THE MANAGER AND THEN BRING IT TO THE CITY COMMISSION. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE THIS IS NOT GOING TO GET PASSED. BUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, LET'S LET'S TRY ANYWAY. FOR INSTANCE, COMMISSIONER GELLIN WANTED TO WANTED TO BRING A NORTON A BRING A RESOLUTION DENOUNCING WHITE SUPREMACY. HE COULD HAVE GONE TO STAFF. OR THE ATTORNEY DRAFT HIS RESOLUTION, BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION, AND THEN IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A WORD, THEN WE SAY, HEY, COMMISSIONER GARLAND, CAN WE PASS THIS AND STRIKE THE WORD? I THINK THAT'S THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN COMMISSIONER GARLAND AND COMMISSIONER FISHMAN AT THE TIME ON THE SUNSHINE, WHERE BOTH OF THEM HAD TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, TO SAY, HEY, GO TO THE COMMISSION MEETING, THEN DIRECT AND THEN COME BACK IS JUST A WASTE OF TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, REALLY AND TRULY, SOMETIMES THINGS ARE A SPUR OF THE MOMENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY AND AND WE WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT AWAY. A SHOOTING IN PARKLAND. I HOPE TO GOD IT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. BUT IF WE WANTED TO TAKE ACTION. HOW WOULD WE GO TO A COMMISSION MEETING AND THEN DISCUSS IT AND THEN DIRECT STAFF AND THEN COME BACK TO ME? IT'S IF IT'S LIKELY COULD BE IT, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S CRAZY. THAT'S THAT'S JUST. ABSURD WOULD BE LOSING OUR TIME. STOP IT, IT'S WE CAN'T DO THINGS THAT WAY. SO I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS THAT FOR ANYTHING WE CAN DIRECT STAFF THROUGH THE THROUGH THE MANAGER, DIRECT DIRECT STAFF TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND THEN IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED TO COME TO A CITY COMMISSION MEETING, THEN THEY PREPARE IT AND COME TO A COMMISSION MEETING AND AND PASS IT OR NOT PASS IT. THERE ARE. SO I THINK I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING TO DO NOW. WHAT WHAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND SAID ON THE FISCAL IMPACT ITEMS, RIGHT. JUST BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER HAS A SIX TO FIVE THOUSAND DOLLAR DISCRETION. I KNOW. COME ON. I KNOW THAT I CAN'T GO TO THE CITY MANAGER AND SAY, HEY, NOW THAT I KNOW THAT I CAN DIRECT YOU, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING FOR SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY NINE DOLLARS. RIGHT. I KNOW THAT I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS GOING TO THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. SO NOBODY'S NOBODY'S CRAZY. NOBODY'S STUPID LIKE. SO LET'S JUST GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY BECAUSE BOLTON HAS A LOT OF IDEAS. AND IF THAT WERE THE CASE, THIS CITY WOULD BE BANKRUPT BECAUSE I'D BE GOING TO THE MANAGER AT LEAST 10 EVENTS PER MONTH. THAT WOULD BE SIX HUNDRED AND FORTY FORTY THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED NINETY NINE DOLLARS TIMES 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR AND WILL NOT HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ABOUT FISCAL IMPACT. [04:35:02] I THINK IF COMMISSIONER GARLAND, LET'S SAY, HAS A ITEM ABOUT FISCAL IMPACT. RIGHT. LET'S SAY HE HAS A BIKE WITH MIKE, THAT THEN HE WOULD GO TO STAFF. PREPARE FLIERS, PREPARE WHAT THE EVENT IS ALL ABOUT, AND THEN HE COMES TO THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS MY IDEA, IT'S GOING TO COST SO MUCH. THE WORK IS ALREADY DONE. EVERYTHING IS ALREADY LAID. SO NOW HE'S GOING TO COME AND ASK FOR IT TO TO TO PASS. SO DIRECTION IS DIRECTION. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE DIRECTION, THIS DIRECTION. AND I THINK THAT I DON'T NEED MY COLLEAGUES REGULATING WHAT I DO. I THINK I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO THEN GO TO STAFF AND DO WHATEVER I NEED TO DO AND THEN COME TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL OF THAT ITEM. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINIONS. YOU'RE GOING NOW. YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE'S A WORKLOAD ON THE STAFF. HAVE YOU HEARD COMPLAINTS FROM STAFF? AND IF SO, WHAT WERE THOSE COMPLAINTS? NOW TO YOU, MAYOR GOMEZ. MAKING SURE I WAS OFF ME. FOR CERTAIN ITEMS, YES, BECAUSE THINGS ARE COME UP RELATIVELY QUICKLY, THEY'RE NOT GIVEN FROM THIS COMMISSION WITH SUFFICIENT TIME TO GET THEM DONE. DEMANDS ARE MADE ON THEIR TIME AND SOMETIMES DEMANDS ARE MADE ON THEIR TIME AND MORE THAN JUST ONE COMMISSIONER. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THE NEED FOR ASSISTANCE HERE IN THE OFFICE, THE CONVERSATION CAME ABOUT AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET ANOTHER PERSON HERE IN THIS OFFICE AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL AIDES TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH THESE MATTERS, TO TRY TO TAKE OF SOME OF THE OTHER BURDEN ON CITY STAFF. THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS. AND I KNOW IT IS ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT IS ALSO FOR WHETHER OR NOT FOR LEGISLATIVE. LIAISONS WERE WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING, WHAT WE RECEIVE LEGISLATIVE AIDS OR WHAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT IT BEFORE. I KNOW IT'S BACK ON THE LIST LATER ON TODAY FOR WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE PAID. BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ASSISTANCE BY UP TO THREE OTHER PEOPLE TO HELP US WITH WHAT WE NEED HERE IN THE CITY, WHICH WOULD COME ABOUT FOR SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT CAN BE DONE EASILY AND PRESENTED TO GET SOME OF OUR OUR INITIATIVES OFF. ON THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S OK. YEAH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN ASKED TO ACTUALLY USE STAFF MORE BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T USE THAT FOR ANYTHING. I PUT TOGETHER MY OWN PRESENTATIONS. I DID MY OWN PRESENTATION FOR BAN THE BOX. THE ONLY THING ONLY TIME STAFF REALLY DID SOME WORK ON MY BEHALF IN TERMS OF PREPARING FOR AN ORDINANCE. IS THE H.R. DIRECTOR PREPARING ON THE JUNETEENTH, WHICH WAS DONE AFTER A VOTE WHERE WE ALL AGREE. BUT IN TERMS OF ANYTHING THAT I BRING TO THE COMMISSION, LIKE THE CITIES FOR CITIZENSHIP, YOU KNOW, I DO MY OWN RESEARCH. YOU KNOW, NOW THAT I HAVE A LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT, I WILL WORK WITH HER TO HELP ME DO SOME RESEARCH. BUT I DID MY OWN RESEARCH, PUT MY OWN PROJECTS TOGETHER, AND THEN AND THEN BRING IT TO A VOTE. BUT I REALLY DON'T USE THAT MUCH AT ALL. I'VE BEEN ASKED TO I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT STAFF IS HERE TO WORK ON MY BEHALF. AND FOR ME, I KNOW WORKING AND TALKING TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, STAFF WORKS FOR US. IS THERE A JOB TO WORK FOR US? AND IF THEY NEED MORE STAFFING TO PROVIDE MORE RESOURCES, THEN THEN THAT'S A CALL IN THE CITY MANAGER. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMISSIONER BOLTONS ASSISTANT, THAT PERSON PRIMARILY DOES VIDEOGRAPHY. WE'RE IN WE'RE IN THE VIDEO WORLD NOW WITH COVID-19. AND COMMISSIONER BOLTON WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE'S ACTIVE AND VISIBLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE ALL HEAR WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE CAMPAIGNING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE GO FOR REELECTION, IS WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? I DON'T HEAR FROM YOU. I ONLY SEE YOU ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS. AND SO TO GET AWAY FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO SEND OUT MY NEWSLETTER, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SENT OUT MY EMAILS AND EVERYONE HAS SOME KIND OF EMAIL SOLUTION, WE ALL SEE THAT THE CLICK RATE OR THE OPEN RATE IS VERY LOW. AND SO FOR ME, DOING TRADITIONAL MAIL WAS VERY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S REALLY HARD TO TELL HOW MANY ARE ACTIVE RESIDENTS IN YOUR IN YOUR DISTRICT. SO SO COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS HIS A FOCUSING ON VIDEO. HE PUTS OUT A LOT OF CONTENT AND HE GETS A LOT OF VIEWS FOR HIS CONTENT. SO THAT'S HIS WAY OF BEING VISIBLE AND ACTIVE. AND SO IF THE STAFF FEELS LIKE THEY'RE OVERWORKED, OVERWHELMED, THEN MAYBE WE [04:40:02] DO NEED MORE STAFF MEMBERS BECAUSE IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE WE LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT WE'RE VISIBLE, WE'RE AT THEM, WE'RE WORKING ON THEIR BEHALF. AND IT'S HARDER TO DO NOW BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO AA MEETINGS. WE'RE NOT SEEING THEM AS OUR FRIENDS THAT WE SHOULD. AND SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO PUT OUT MORE CONTENT THROUGH OTHER MEANS AND OTHER CHANNELS. BUT I KNOW PERSONALLY, I DON'T I DON'T ASK STAFF TO DO ANYTHING ON MY BEHALF, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A LITTLE ON TRUST LEVEL HERE. AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING CONFIDENCE IN STAFF BECAUSE I'VE GIVEN SMALL PROJECTS IN THE PAST AND THEY DIDN'T COME THROUGH. AND SO I TRY TO DO EVERYTHING ON MY OWN. BUT I AM GOING TO TRY TO LEAN ON STAFF A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKED OF ME. AND AND IT IS THEIR JOB TO TO TO DO WORK ON OUR DIRECTION THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. APPRECIATE AND PROBABLY MAYBE SOMETIMES WHEN SOME OF THE PEOPLE TO GET THE JOB DONE THE WAY YOU NEEDED, IT WAS MAYBE THEY HAD TOO MANY OTHER THINGS TO DO BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING ON A TIGHT SHIP ON PERSONNEL AND BUT MORE OR LESS FOR CERTAIN THINGS LIKE RESOLUTIONS AND AUDIENCES. WHEN WE ASKED FOR THEM TO BE DRAFTED IN ADVANCE BEFORE DISCUSSION BY THE CITY, THAT ACTUALLY COST THE CITY MONEY. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CITY STAFF THAT'S ALREADY HERE. THEY'RE GETTING PAID TO DO THEIR JOB WITH THEIR LIAISON'S OR WHATEVER. BUT RESPECTFULLY, OUR INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY ATTORNEY THAT WE ASKED FOR, WE ARE ASKING THE CITY TO EXPEND FUNDS AND WE ARE DIRECTING THEM CITY ATTORNEY TO THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY DIRECTLY. WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO SPEND FUNDS WITHOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH OUR COLLEAGUES TO SEE IF THAT'S AN EXPENSE THAT WE ALL WOUL LIKE TO TAKE, WHICH IS WHY I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S BEING ASKED FOR, IS FOR THOSE RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES NOT TO BE DRAFTED BEFOREHAND, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY CAN'T BE REVIEWED AND JUST READ HAD IT. I HAVE AN IDEA FOR A RESOLUTION. I HAVE AN IDEA FOR AN ORDINANCE. WE DISCUSS IT. IT THEN GETS DRAFTED. AND THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN. YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, AND THAT'S WHERE THE I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS STREAMLINED BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY DONE THIS WAY. THEN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE IT'S DONE THAT WAY. SO THAT'S WHERE WHERE THE CONVERSATION IS AND WHERE. NO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE US BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY DRAFT RESOLUTIONS, THAT THAT'S JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. THAT'S THE COST OF OPERATIONS. SO I ASKED FOR A RESOLUTION TO BE DRAFTED CONDEMNING THE PRESIDENT FOR PARTICIPATING IN A COUP ATTEMPT AND GETTING PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COUP ATTEMPT AND POTENTIALLY GETTING TAMARAC EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES TO GO OUT THERE, YOU KNOW. THE COMMISSION DIDN'T AGREE. AND SO SOMEONE ELSE HAD A SUBSTITUTE MOTION MADE AND THEY AGREED ON THAT AND WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND SO, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB AS POLICYMAKERS AND INDIVIDUAL POLICYMAKERS, NOTHING SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO AGREE ON A POLICY. WE BRING IT OUT. AND TO ME, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THINGS ON THE RECORD TO SAY THIS COMMISSIONER OR THIS MAYOR DID NOT SUPPORT THIS ITEM. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN RUN ON AND GET VOTES ON BY SAYING THIS COMMISSION IN SUPPORT, THIS VOTE IN SUPPORT THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE DON'T NEED CONSENSUS BEFOREHAND. AND I THINK I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON BECAUSE I THINK WE AGREE THAT DIRECTION GIVEN TO STAFF AS A COLLECTIVE BODY, AS A NON-ISSUE. WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. SENDING A RESOLUTION. THE NEXT BULLET POINT, WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. AND WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE ADVERTISING AND LESS. SO I WANT A CLARIFICATION OUT OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE. OUR RULES, AS YOU SAID. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECT, SO WE AREN'T WE ARE ALLOWED TO DIRECT STAFF, THE MANAGERS I'M ASKING. I SAY, YES, PLEASE REPEAT IT. YES, YOU COMMISSION AND YOURSELF CAN DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER AND ALSO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT RESOLUTION ORDINANCE. ADDITIONALLY, YOUR CURRENT RULES DOES NOT REQUIRE DISCUSSION FIRST. SO BASICALLY WE EXPECT A DISCUSSION BEFORE A PLACE ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THAT'S A THAT'S A CUSTOM. AND PRACTICE WASN'T CONSISTENT WITH YOUR RULE. AND SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THIS COMMISSION IS THAT THEY THE CUSTOMARY PRACTICE OF PUTTING IT ON BEFOREHAND IS NOT WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS, NOT WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED. THIS COMMISSION IS WISHING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT DRAFTED, BUT HAVE IT DISSEMINATED PRIOR TO A COMMISSION MEETING FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION AT THE COMMISSION MEETING FOR FOR DISCUSSION ON RESOLUTIONS AND PROPOSE ORDINANCES. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING AS A COLLECTIVE? I'M HERE AND LET'S LET'S LET'S SEE WHO'S COMMISSION GARLAND EXAMPLE WITH RESPECT TO THE MOST RECENT RESOLUTION CONDEMNING THE ATTACKS IN WASHINGTON, D.C., [04:45:03] WHICH COMMISSIONER GARLAND REQUESTED THAT HE BE PLACED ON AGENDA AS A RESOLUTION. AND HE WHEN HE ASKED ME THAT QUESTION AND ALSO DISCUSSED IT WITH ABC, THE ATTORNEY, ALSO WITH CITY MANAGER, I INDICATED TO HIM BASED ON COMMISSION RULES AS WRITTEN, THAT ANY MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION BODY CAN PLACE EITHER. AND IT COULD BE A RESOLUTION, IT COULD BE AN ORDINANCE WITHOUT ANY PRIOR DISCUSSION AND IS ANNUALS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO JUST. WE WANT TO CODIFICATION OF THINGS, SO WE'RE SAYING. AS IS AS IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, THE CONFIRMATION I'M TELLING YOU TO ACTUALLY UP TO PROBABLY BULLET POINT NUMBER ONE, MAKING SURE THAT'S UNDERSTOOD IN THE SAME THING. IF THERE'S A RESOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED THAT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW, EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION HAS A RIGHT TO SEE THAT WRITTEN DOCUMENT. YES, THAT'S ALL THAT'S ALL I'M DOING. PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER AND TYING IT IN. IT HAS TO BE THE CITY MANAGER SAID THAT'S THE POLICY. SO, AGAIN, THE THAT THE ATTORNEY FAILED TO SAY THAT WE DON'T NEED TO LOSE THE. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE. THANK YOU. TRY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, SO BUT I SEE COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS HIS HAND RAISED THIS FOR THIS. MR. BOLTON. YES, MAYOR, IT'S SO SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOWADAYS I WATCH THE WORDS THAT YOU SAY AND WRITE BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE, LIKE, THE BOOBY TRAPS. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT TRICKING US WITH YOUR WORDS WHEN YOU SAY IF IT'S THE UNDERSTANDING OF. THAT YOU'RE HEARING THAT RESOLUTIONS AND BOUBA AND YOU NAME ALL OF THEM WOULD WOULD BE DIRECT, WE CAN EACH DIRECT THE CITY MANAGE AND THEN COME TO THE COMMISSION MEETING WITHOUT THEN. DISCUSSING IT FIRST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SAYING WHEN WE SAY WE WE DON'T MEAN AS A AS A BODY COLLECTIVE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT EACH OF US CAN. IN OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL CAPACITIES AS COMMISSIONER CAN DIRECT, THE CITY MANAGER CAN DIRECT STAFF THROUGH CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DO. ANYTHING THAT WE REQUIRE SO THAT WE CAN BRING IT TO A COMMISSION MEETING FOR A VOTE. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE OK. WE WILL AND WE MEANS AS A BODY COLLECTIVE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD PUT US BACK TO. LEVEL NUMBER ONE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, ATTORNEY? YES, COMMISSIONER. BOTH OF YOU WILL SAY EACH MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION CAN BRING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. SO LITTLE DOESN'T SAY AS A COLLECTIVE BODY. AND WITH RESPECT TO THE MAYOR QUESTION, IN TERMS OF THE IDEA OF THE MANAGER AND PREPARING THE AGENDA, IF IF A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO PUSH FORWARD ITEM, IT HAS TO BE AN AGENDA, A COPY OF THE AUGUST RESOLUTION WITH THE CITY CLUB, THE CITY MANAGER, IT WILL BE PART OF THE AGENDA AND THE SIX DAY WILL REQUIRE THAT THE ITEM BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY MANAGER SIX DAYS BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION THAT IS AVAILABLE. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO IF I REQUIRE STAFF TO DO SOME LEVEL OF RESEARCH ON A CERTAIN TOPIC FIRST, THEN I SAY TO THE MANAGER, HEY, THIS IS MY ITEM. I'D LIKE STAFF TO DO X THE ISD IN IN ANTICIPATION OF THAT ITEM. LET THEM DO IT AND BRING IT TO A COMMISSION MEETING. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YES. YES. THERE'S NOTHING PRECLUDE YOU FROM DOING THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY ATTORNEY. RIGHT. AND AND IT DOESN'T AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ITEMS THAT'S COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION. IT COULD BE ANYTHING. FOR INSTANCE, I SAY TO THE MANAGER MANAGER, I'M HOLDING A MEETING IN MY DISTRICT AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THE FINANCE DIRECTOR TO COME AND I WOULD LIKE FOR [04:50:07] THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER OR WHOEVER IS ON STAFF THAT IS CAPABLE OF DOING X. THAT'S ALSO GIVING DIRECTION. RIGHT. THERE'S NOTHING UNDER THE LAW PRECLUDES YOU FROM ACTING AS A MANAGER TO BRING STAFF TO COMMUNITY IN YOUR DISTRICT. OK, AND THE STAFF IS NOT AVAILABLE, THEN THE CITY MANAGER CAN COME BY HIMSELF. ALL RIGHT. OK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, IT IS 3:00 P.M. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE RECESS. HERE ARE THREE LADIES, WELCOME BACK, IT IS THREE 15 CITY CLERK, YOU CONFIRM WE'RE ALL PRESENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. I'M HERE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. GO HERE. I'M HERE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. AND MAYOR GOMEZ PRESENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE ON ADVERTISING A BOARD AND COMMITTEE SEATS, MAYBE FOR GARLAND. THE COMMISSIONER KNOWS WHO THEY WANT TO APPOINT. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT CUSTOMARY PRACTICE PER SAY. THIS IS REGULATED BY CODE. WE HAVE A CODE REDEFAULT RULE FOR IT. SO WE ARE ASKING TO AMEND THE CODE RULE TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF HAVING PUBLISHED. IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION IS SEEKING, THEN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST NEED TO AGREE UPON TO HAVE OUR GRAPHIC WARNING ACCORDINGLY AND COME BACK TO US FOR TWO ROUNDS FOR APPROVAL. IS THAT CORRECT? IS A TWO ROUND ORDINANCE, MR. YORN? BUT YES, ALL ORDERS REQUIRED TO READ IT, IF THAT IS THE RULE OF THIS COMMISSION, THAT THEY WISH TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLICATION IF THEY ALREADY KNOW WHO THEY WISH TO HAVE SUBJECT TO THE RULES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE BOARD. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING, WITH THE EXCEPTION EMERGENCY, THIS ONE WE ANY REGULAR ORDERS IS TO OK. THANK YOU. YES, I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOW DEMONSTRATED AT LEAST TWICE IF WE HAVE SOMEONE IN MIND WE WANT FOR A BOARD SEAT, THEN I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THAT RATHER THAN SPENDING MONEY TO ADVERTISE. AND I ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE APPLYING FOR IT WHEN IT IF, IN FACT, WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY MADE UP OUR MIND WHO WE WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT OPTION AVAILABLE TO US. IF THERE'S CONSENSUS, SEE NO REASON TO NOT ASK FOR A CITY ATTORNEY TO REMOVE OR AMEND THE ORDINANCE. TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE TO PUBLISH IF THE COMMISSIONER KNOWS WHO THEY WANT TO APPOINT. I A COMMENT I WAS GETTING TO THE LAST, AND ACTUALLY I HAVE COMMISSIONER BOLTON WAS HAMMERED AT THIS PARTY OR MR. BOLTON. THANK YOU. OK, SO THAT THE ISSUE THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS CAN BECOME VERY POLITICAL AND. IN THE PAST, IT HAS BEEN POLITICAL POWER, DRESSLER DID NOT WANT TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER GARLAND BECAUSE COMMISSIONER GARLAND RAN AGAINST THEM. YOU DIDN'T WANT TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER GARLAND OR COMMISSIONER OR VICE MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A MORE FORMIDABLE OPPONENT AGAINST YOU. AND PERHAPS IF HE HAD BEEN APPOINTED TO THE BOARD, HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THOSE EXTRA FOUR HUNDRED VOTES BECAUSE MAYBE 400 RESIDENT WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT HE HAD JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPERIENCE. SO GOOD JOB ON YOUR PART. AND MAYBE YOU WILL NEVER ADMIT OR HARRY WILL NEVER ADMIT THAT THAT IS THE TRUE REASON WHY COMMISSIONER GARLAND AND VICE MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS WAS NOT APPOINTED AT THE TIME WHEN I TRIED TO PUT THEM ON BOARDS OF. [04:55:03] BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE ISSUE BECAUSE COMMISSIONER GARLAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN INTELLIGENT AND SUITABLE TO SERVE, AND VICE MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS WAS ALSO QUALIFIED. HE WAS UNDER THE QUALIFICATIONS OF FALL UNDER COMMUNITY ACTIVIST AND REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL, AS WELL AS AGEL, A CONDO ASSOCIATION MANAGER SLASH PRESIDENT. HE CHECKED ALL OF THOSE BOXES, BUT STILL HE WAS DENIED ACCESS TO THE BOARD BECAUSE PEOPLE SAID THAT HE WAS NOT QUALIFIED. SO I THINK THAT IT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'RE JUST TURNING THIS INTO INTO A VERY POLITICAL PROCESS. WELL, ALSO RUNS THROUGH THE MIND OF COMMISSIONERS, AND I'VE HEARD IT FROM FORMER COMMISSIONERS IS OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY PLACED ON BOARDS AND KEPT THERE FOR MANY YEARS. THEY WOULD SAY, OH, I KNOW THAT I'M ON THIS BOARD BECAUSE IF THE COMMISSIONER PUT SOMEONE NEW, THAT PERSON MIGHT RUN AGAINST HIM OR HER, YOU KNOW? AND SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PUT PEOPLE ON BOARD ON BOARDS BECAUSE REALLY AND TRULY YOU THINK THAT THAT PERSON IS GOING TO RUN AGAINST YOU. WELL. LET ME LET ME LET ME SHOW YOU HOW PURE MY HEART IS, THAT'S HARD FOR YOU TO BELIEVE ME, BUT LET ME TELL YOU HOW PURE I AM. AND COMMISSIONER PLUCKER WILL BACK ME UP ON THIS. WHEN I JUST GOT ELECTED, I WANTED SO MUCH TO APPOINT TOM BUSHNELL TO THE PLANNING BOARD. THAT I ENLISTED, COMMISSIONER POLACCO, PLEASE GO TALK TO HER, FACILITATE A MEETING BETWEEN US. SHE IS SHE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. SHE'S SHE'S GREAT. THAT'S THE STUFF. AND, YEAH, SHE COULD HAVE GOT ON THE BOARD AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND RUN AGAINST ME AGAIN. AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO I REALLY AND TRULY. BELIEVES IN PUTTING PEOPLE ON BOARDS THAT HAVE THE RIGHT QUALIFICATIONS AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, IF CHEF JONES WANTS TO BE APPOINTED TO A BOARD, IF SHE WANTS TO BE APPOINTED, LET'S STICK TO THE DIVERSIT BOARD. GUESS WHAT? AND SHE APPLIES. I'M GOING TO PUT HER ON THAT BOARD BECAUSE I DO NOT SEE, YOU KNOW, THESE BOARDS AS, OK, SOMEBODY COULD RUN AGAINST ME OR NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY SEAT. SO IF WE CAN DISQUALIFY THE NOTION THAT THIS PERSON MAY BE RUNNING AGAINST ME AND THAT'S THE STUFF, THEN THEN I GUESS IT'S NOT IS NOT POLITICAL. I WOULD SAY EVEN IF YOU HAVE AN INCLINATION AS TO WHO YOU WANT TO PUT ON THE BOARD, STILL LET PEOPLE APPLY, STILL GO THROUGH TH ADVERTISING PROCESS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, LIKE SOMEBODY TO GO ON THE BOARD, BUT THEN SOMEBODY ELSE MAY APPLY AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHOA, THIS PERSON IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S KEEP THE PERSON ON NOW BEING THE LAWYER THAT YOU ARE. MAN, I KNOW THAT YOU'LL COME BACK WITH A REBUTTAL AND YOU WILL SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T PUT COMMISSIONER GARLAND ON THE BOARD BECAUSE COMMISSIONER GARLAND IS A DISTRICT TO RESIDENT AND YOU'RE IN DISTRICT ONE. AND THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T PUT HIM ON THE BOARD IS THAT HE LIVES IN DISTRICT TWO WHILE ATTORNEY, THAT THE RULES OF THE ROAD IS I YOU CAN'T FIND ANYBODY IN YOUR DISTRICT, THE CODE SAYS YOU CAN GO AND LOOK FOR SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF YOUR DISTRICT. SO THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXERCISE UNDER THAT SCENARIO TO FURTHER ELABORATE THAT REALLY AND TRULY THIS THING DOESN'T EVEN MATTER TO ME WHERE THEY COME FROM. ONCE THEY ARE A CITY OF TAMARACK RESIDENT, THEN THAT'S COOL WITH ME. [05:00:06] LET'S TAKE BRIAN ZAMBRANO FOR FOR INSTANCE, HE'S A DISTRICT RESIDENT AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HIM BEING MY APPOINTEE FOR THE PARK DISTRICT FOR A RESIDENT. BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HIM BEING MY APPOINTEE ON THE PARKS BOARD BECAUSE HE'S A GREAT GUY AND HE UNDERSTANDS ART. HE'S AN ARCHITECTURE. SO IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THEY COME FROM. FOR ME, IT'S IT'S ALL A MATTER OF IS THIS PERSON QUALIFIED? DOES THIS PERSON HAVE THE SKILL SETS TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD IN A WAY THAT I WANT THEM TO MOVE FORWARD? SO. I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO REMOVE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT THE PERSON THAT IS BEING APPOINTED HAS TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE DISTRICT THAT THE COMMISSIONER LIVES IN BECAUSE THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF PEOPLE THAT IS LIVING IN THE CITY IN GENERAL THAT I WOULD WANT TO PUT ON A BOARD. BUT THEY LIVE IN ANOTHER IN ANOTHER DISTRICT, FOR INSTANCE. THERE IS A GENTLEMAN THAT LIVES IN THE DISTRICT ARE TO YOUR BEST FRIEND, MAYOR KEVIN BORICK, WHERE MANY RESIDENTS SAY HE DISLIKES ME. AND AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HIS FRIEND AND YOU HAVE MEETINGS ABOUT ME AND TALK ABOUT ME OVER AND OVER, OVER SNACKS AND CHOCOLATE. WELL, GUESS WHAT? I WOULD LOVE TO PLACE THEM ON A BOARD, BUT HE LIVES IN DISTRICT TWO, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LANGUAGE ABOUT RESIDENTS STRICKEN FROM IT SO THAT WE CAN APPOINT WHOEVER WE WANT TO APPOINT. AND GUESS WHAT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT COMMISSION TOGETHER WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME APPOINTING SOMEBODY FROM DISTRICT TWO BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT HE'S MY BOY. I LOVE COMMISSION TO GET IT RIGHT. SO I WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING TO HURT HIM IS THE SAME WAY. THIS MORNING HE WAS PUTTING SOMEBODY ON THE OTHER SISTER CITY'S BOARD IN MY DISTRICT. KAREN SAYS SOMALI, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SHE LIVES IN DISTRICT ONE. IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THESE APPOINTMENTS, IT COMES DOWN TO A TRUST ISSUE AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I'M RIGHT. RIGHT. SO LET'S JUST JUMP OVER THE HOOPS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS AT LENGTH. TAKE OUT THE REST, THE REQUIREMENTS TO TO LIVE IN EACH COMMISSION DISTRICT. AND IF I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT. THAT PERSON JUST NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THE BOARD. I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO BE TOLD, OH, THIS PERSON DOESN'T QUALIFY. THAT'S THE STUFF. BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST WANT TO DERAIL THAT APPOINTMENT. IF I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT. WHEREVER THAT PERSON LIVES, THAT PERSON LIVES IN THAT PLACE AND BE DONE WITH IT. THAT'S MY THAT'S MY FIVE CENTS. MR. GAGNON. YES, SO I DO THINK THAT THE POSITION SHOULD BE ADVERTISED, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE ADVERTISED IN THE SUN SENTINEL, WE CAN JUST ADVERTISE THEM ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AND I'M SURE WE CAN ADVERTISE IF WE WANT TO PAY AN AMOUNT, WE CAN ADVERTISE ON FACEBOOK AND PAY VIA FACEBOOK BECAUSE FACEBOOK ADVERTISING IS MUCH MORE PRECISE WHERE YOU CAN LIMIT IT TO THE AND ZIP COD OR THE CITY OF TAMARACK. BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE THE ADVERTISEMENT. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY. NONE OF THE PEOPLE ONLY WANT ONLY KNEW ONE PERSON PERSONALLY FROM THE SISTER CITIES APPLICATION POOL. SO I HAD MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE CALL AND INTERVIEW ALL THE APPLICANTS AND SHE HELPED ME MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE APPLICANTS. SO ESPECIALLY IN A TIME LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE NOT AS CONNECTED OR AS VISIBLE WITH RESIDENTS, I DO THINK IT SHOULD BE ADVERTISED IF IT COST TOO MUCH MONEY TO DO IT. ON SUN-SENTINEL, WE CAN DO SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE CAN DO AN EMAIL LIST. AND REALLY WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF SENDING OUT MORE TEXT MESSAGES BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE RESPONDING TO TEXT MESSAGES THAN THAN OTHER MEDIA CHANNELS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADVERTISING MS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT CONNECT THEIR COMMISSIONERS AND, YOU KNOW, SHOW ME SOMETHING LIKE, OH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A HOOKUP IF IT'S ALL THE COMMISSIONER KNOWS THIS OR THAT PERSON. SO THEY JUST HUG THAT PERSON UP RATHER THAN OPENING UP THE PROCESS AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE TALENT AND THE ABILITY OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY [05:05:03] THAT MAY WANT TO SERVE. AND THEY WON'T LEARN ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE UNLESS THEY KNOW US PERSONALLY. SO I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE ADVERTISED. AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND WE CAN'T FIND SOMEBODY IN OUR DISTRICT WHICH ARE JUST NOTHING BUT MADE UP LINES. RIGHT. WE WE CAN PICK SOMEBODY FROM ANY DISTRICT AS LONG AS THEY LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMRAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BALTON. OK, SO SO, YEAH, IF WE COULD JUST DO THIS QUICKLY, I KNOW THAT YOU YOU HAVE MAYBE YOUR COMMENTS, MAYOR, BUT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ATTORNEY HEARS ME CLEARLY REMOVE THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE COMMISSION DISTRICT AND THEN ADVERTISE IT, BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT IN THE SUN-SENTINEL. AS A MATTER OF FACT, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE DIVERSITY BOARD THAT IS COMING UP. IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU ADVERTISE IT IN CARIBBEAN TODAY OR THE NATIONAL WEEKLY A A NEWSPAPER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A MORE DIVERSE GROUP FROM. RIGHT. ADVERTISE IT IN THE WEST. GUESS THAT IS. I'M SAYING IT'S LIKE ADVERTISING IN THOSE PLACES THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE. SO I, I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GARLAND THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SUN SENTINEL. AND I REMEMBER ASKING, I THINK THIS PARTICULAR, IF WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE IN THE SUN SENTINEL, AND SHE I THINK, GAVE ME THE ANSWER AT THE TIME THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO. AND THAT'S THE STUFF. SEE, I HAVE A SHORT MEMORY. I'M STILL YOUNG. I'M STILL YOUNG. SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S ADVERTISE IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE MORE LIBERAL WITH WHERE WE ADVERTISE IT. MAYBE WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, AT AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSIONER THAT IS MAKING THE APPOINTMENT. AND IF IT'S EVERYBODY, THEN ADVERTISE IT IN FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES. IT'S YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WORK THAT PART OUT, BUT JUST BE MORE LIBERAL WITH THE ADVERTISING AND REMOVE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THE PERSON WHO HAS TO LIVE IN THE COMMISSION DISTRICT. MR. GOODVIN, I JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID. ARE WE ALLOWING THE COMMISSIONER THE COURTESY IF THEY HAVE SOMEONE IN MIND TO DO SO, OR ARE WE SAYING REGARDLESS WE HAVE TO HAVE ADVERTISING? YES. SO I'M CLEAR. YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, LIKE, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND. SO THE REASON WHY WE ADVERTISE IT IS BECAUSE, YEAH, YOU MAY HAVE YOUR PICK, BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE BECAUSE WHAT'S OUT THERE COULD CHANGE YOUR MIND REGARDLESS. RIGHT. SO IF I WANT TO APPOINT JEFF JONES, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S MY MY PICK, I'M STILL GOING TO ADVERTISE IT. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE I MAY GET SOMEBODY THAT IS MORE INTERESTING THAN JEFF JONES. MAYBE MAYBE I GET AN EXECUTIVE CHEF CALLED EXECUTIVE CHEF POLACCO, YOU KNOW, SAYING SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND. RIGHT. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND, STILL ADVERTISE IT, SEE WHO YOU FIND. AND IF THE ADVERTISING DOESN'T CHANGE YOUR MIND, THEN GO WITH WHO YOU WANT, WHO YOU WANTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT, YOU KNOW, TO JUST SAY, OH, I HAVE MY PICK. YOU KNOW, THEN AT LEAST THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. I DON'T AGREE, BUT THAT'S OK, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT OPTION AVAILABLE TO ME. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. BUT WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. ABSOLUTELY. AND WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S APPLIED THROUGH THE CHAIR, WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN THE ADVERTISERS ARE ADVERTISING, GO OUT. TELL YOUR PERSON, HEY, APPLYING, YOU KNOW, LIKE I MEAN, I HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE, YOU KNOW, I SAY TO, LIKE, CONDOLE PRESIDENTS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, HEY, THIS THIS POSITION IS OPEN AND APPLY FOR THE POSITION. AND I'VE HAD I'VE HAD SCENARIOS WHERE ALL OF THEM APPLIED AND THEN I HAVE TO CHOOSE AMONG THEM. RIGHT. SO OR SOMETIMES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IS SO STRONG WITH LIKE THAT SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. YOU JUST GO TO THAT ONE PERSON AND SAY, HEY, I WANT YOU TO APPLY FOR THIS BOARD. I WANT YOU TO SERVE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO [05:10:07] SERVE AND WISH THAT THEY COULD SERVE, BUT THEY JUST HAVE NEVER BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE THAT SERVES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I BEAT MYSELF UP THIS MORNING WHEN I DID NOT COMMENT ON THE PARKS BOARD AND HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT TOO LAT THAT I THINK VULGARISM IS DONE TO HAVE TERM LIMITS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING, YOU KNOW. DON'T LIKE FRIENDS, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, TAKING A JAB AT BARRY HARRIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S HE'S BEEN ON TH BOARD UNDER HOWARD DRESSLER AND THEN UNDER MAYOR GOMEZ. SO HE COULD TECHNICALLY BE THERE 24 YEARS. YEAH, NO, NOT 48 YEARS CRAP. BECAUSE YOU CAN DO 12 YEARS AS MAYOR, 12 YEARS AS COMMISSIONER. MULTIPLY THAT BY TWO PEOPLE. HE COULD BE THERE. FORTY EIGHT YEARS HE COULD DIE ON THE BOARD. WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE. SO IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, COME ON, GIVE SOMEBODY ELSE AN OPPORTUNITY. SO I THINK IF THAT COMES BACK TO COME BACK, COMES BACK TO US, THAT BOARD NEEDS TERM LIMITS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE SERVING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR YEARS, BECAUSE THEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THEIR POSITIONS FOR TOO LONG, THEY THEY GET IT. THEY GET COWLITZ. IT'S IT'S LIKE A COW SITUATION. SO I DON'T THINK ANY MAN SHOULD TO SERVE 12 YEARS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER POINT. BUT YEAH. MR. GAGNON. YES, ANOTHER BENEFIT FOR DOING THE ADVERTISING, WHICH WE JUST EXPERIENCE, IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BENCH OR A POOL OF PEOPLE THAT WE CAN ACCESS TO AVOID FURTHER ADVERTISING. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY CLERK USE THE POOL OF APPLICANTS FROM SISTER CITIES AND PRIOR PLANNING BOARD TO PROVIDE ME WITH A POOL OF PEOPLE WHO WERE THAT I CAN CHOOSE FROM TO BE ON THE PLANNING BOARD. SO, YOU KNOW THAT THAT ADVERTISING. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PICK, WE NOW HAVE A POOL OF PEOPLE THAT WE CAN CHOOSE FROM FOR FUTURE OPENINGS. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I DID FOR MY SELECTION, FOR MY NEW PLANNING BOARD REPLACEMENT AND THE SISTER CITIES. SO THAT'S ANOTHER ADVANTAGE. SO, YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN PICK, BUT WE SHOULD ALSO ADVERTISE IN CASE, LIKE BOLTON SAYS, COMMISSIONER BOLTON SAYS YOU MIGHT FIND SOMETHING THAT'S BETTER, MORE TALENTED. SO I LIKE THAT IDEA. AND THEN SINCE I BROUGHT THE PLANNING BOARD, LET'S ADD THAT TO THIS LIST OF ITEMS THEY DISCUSS AS WELL. AND LET'S VOTE, LET'S MOVE ON, BUT I'M KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS BEISNER. WHILE WE'RE ON THIS SUBJECT AND I DON'T SEE IT ON THE LIST QUESTION FOR CITY ATTORNEY AND FOR AJR, HOW DO WE CHANGE THAT, COMMISSIONERS? HAVE TO RUN AT LARGE LIKE OTHER CITIES DO. WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THE TOPIC THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT THAT LATER ON OTHER ITEMS WANTED TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST. OK, SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR THE DISCUSSION REGARDING PLANNING ANY OF THE BOARD'S SELECTIONS OF THE BOARD AND THE ADVERTISING OF THE SAME? NO. TO MOVE ON TO TOO LONG ON THIS? WELL, SOME OF US WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. A LOT OF COMMENTS, SOME OF THEM FACTUAL, SOME OF THEM FICTIONAL ANYWAY. AS FOR ADVERTISING, IF IT'S THE COMMISSION SO WISHES TO ADVERTISE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHERE PROBABLY THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THIS IS PROBABLY THROUGH THE CITY CLERK REGARDING THE AREA OF. AND THE ABILITY TO ADVERTISE, IT SAYS, IN THE AREA OF JURISDICTION WHERE PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY TO READ IT. SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE SMALLER PAPERS SUCH AS ANZ AND USA, JEWISH JOURNAL, SAWGRASS NEWS AND THE OTHER NEWSPAPERS MENTIONED BY MY COLLEAGUES, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE OR IS IT ONLY HAVE TO BE SUN-SENTINEL SINCE IT IS MORE LIKELY TO REACH A LARGER AUDIENCE? AND I SEE OUR CITY CLERK AND HIS FRIENDS. YOU'RE ON THE. AND THE INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY CAN CERTAINLY BACK ME UP ON THIS, BUT THE CODE SAYS IT HAS TO BE AND NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED IN THE CODE TO IDENTIFY. [05:15:04] WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY IDENTIFY THE PAPER IN PARTICULAR, BUT WE CAN JUST SAY IT WILL BE ADVERTISED THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AVENUES, NEWSPAPER OR WHATEVER, AND WE CAN PICK WHICH PUBLICATION WE WOULD LIKE TO USE INSTEAD. RIGHT NOW IT'S LIMITED TO THE SUN-SENTINEL. SO IF I HEAR CORRECTLY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME, THE SEEKING THAT THE ORDINANCE BE REVISED TO INCLUDE. ADVERTISING. THE WAY SICKLER JUST MENTIONED, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SUN-SENTINEL AND THE REQUEST FOR THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A PERSON WITHIN THE DISTRICT DISTRICT'S BOUNDARIES. SO IF WE ARE AND THEN ACTUALLY. I DIDN'T HEAR SUPPORT FOR MAKING IT WHERE CUSTOMARY PRACTICE SHOULD BE THAT IF SOMEBODY KNOWS WHO THEY WANT, THEN THEY JUST GET T PUT THEM ON THE LIST, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE. SO IS THAT NOT SUPPORTED, AS THE COMMISSIONER HAS MENTIONED? SO IT'S NOT SUPPORTED, SO THEN I THINK IT'S I THINK IT IS IT IS SUPPORTED THROUGH SAYING THAT IT IS NOT AGAINST YOU'RE NOT BREAKING A RULE IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND TO PUT ON THE BOARD BUT STILL GO OUT TO ADVERTISE. I STILL AS YOU KNOW, I THINK WE STILL ACCOMPLISH THAT. LIKE IF I HAVE SOMEBODY TO PUT ON A BOARD AND I GO OUT TO ADVERTISE AND THE ADVERTISING DID NOT YIELD ANY PERSON THAT IS MORE INTERESTING THAN THE PERSON THAT I HAVE, THEN I'M STILL GOING TO PUT THAT PERSON ON THE BOARD. SO ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IF I GET CAUGHT SAYING, OH, I LIKE JOHN SMITH ANYWAY BEFORE THEN SOMEBODY CAN'T FORCE ME TO SAY, OH, YOU WASTED MY TIME. LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK WE WERE SAYING THAT WHEN WE WHEN HANS IS WRITING THE LEGISLATION, HE CAN PUT LANGUAGE TO SAY TO ME WHATEVER HOBBIES HIS OR HER OWN PERSON, BUT MAY ELECT TO GO OUT AND ADVERTISE ANYHOW. YES, I UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION, NOTWITHSTANDING THAT THE ADVERTISING THAT THE CITY, NAMELY THE COMMISSION, HAS DISCRETION TO SELECT HIS OR HER APPOINTEE. OK. EXACTLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE NOW DONE WITH ADVERTISING. I THINK WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF AGENDA ITEMS, SO WE'RE ON THE PATH OF THE THREE. I HAVE A GENTLEMAN THAT INCLUDES PROCLAMATION'S. THE STAFF DOESN'T INCLUDE PROCLAMATION'S. WE CAN DISCUSS THIS NOW. WE CAN DISCUSS IT LATER ON THERE ABOUT POTENTIALLY REMOVING PROCLAMATION'S FROM OUR AUDIENCES IN GENERAL AND NOT HAVING PROCLAMATION'S SO. ANYBODY? YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, MAYOR. I'M SORRY, I JUST HEARD NEWS ABOUT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT I SHOULD KEEP THEM IN PRAYER, SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS READING. SO WAS THE PERSON WE SHOULD KEEP IN PRAYER THAT THAT WAS WHO DON'T WANT TO SAY HIS NAME, BUT BUT THIS NATIONAL CONGRESSMAN. BUT ANYWAY, YOU CAN CONSIDER WHAT WHAT WHAT DID YOU SAY? THERE IS DISCUSSION. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE LIST IS REGARDING PROCLAMATION'S, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE THREE LIMIT COUNTS. BUT I THINK THIS GOES TO A LARGER DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE PROCLAMATION'S, WHICH IS SOMEWHERE LATER IN THE LIST OF THINGS TO DO SO. SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS PROCLAMATION'S HERE OR WE CAN DISCUSS PROCLAMATION'S. LATER ON. YES, YES, JUST JUST LOOK AT THE SITUATION WE CAN AND WE CAN BASICALLY COMBINE THE TWO POPULATION ISSUES, ONE WITH THE POPULATION POPULATION SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE THREE ITEMS WITH RESPECT TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE. AND THE SECOND ISSUE IS THERE'S A PROCESS OF WHO NEEDS THE POPULATION WHEN THE PROCLAMATION IS CREATED BY THE CITY. [05:20:03] SO IT'S TWO ISSUES, ACTUALLY. SO MAKE IT THREE, BECAUSE IN GENERAL, THIS LIST WAS NOT INCLUSIVE. SHOULD PROCLAMATION'S EVEN BE CONTINUED IN OUR PROCESS? SO MAYBE WE TAKE IT ALTERNATIVE. LET'S DO IT THAT WAY. WHY DO WE WANT PROCLAMATION'S? SO IF WE DO WANT PROCLAMATION'S, ARE THEY INCLUDED IN THE COUNT? AND THREE, IF WE DO PROCLAMATION'S, THE NEXT LEVEL? S WISH TO CONTINUE WITH PROCLAMATION'S. THEY ARE NOT MANDATORY BY OUR CHARTER. THEY ARE IN OUR ORDINANCES AND THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT WORDS. THEY CAN BE REMOVED. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YEAH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, PROCLAMATION'S ARE GREAT. IT IS LIKE RESOLUTION EXPRESSES HOW WE FEEL ABOUT A CERTAIN SUBJECT. SO I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD STILL HAVE PROCLAMATION'S BROUGHT FORWARD. I DO THINK THAT IT TAKES UP A LOT OF TIME IN A MEETING, SO. I THINK THAT PROCLAMATION'S SHOULD BE PLACED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNLESS. UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER THAT REQUESTS IT ADVISES THE MAYOR THAT HE OR SHE WOULD LIKE TO READ THE PROCLAMATION BY HIMSELF. SO I REQUEST A PROCLAMATION. I WOULD LIKE TO READ THAT PROCLAMATION. BUT THERE ARE CASES WHERE I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT THE PROCLAMATION TO BE READ SO THAT PROCLAMATION CAN JUST GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BECAUSE MAYBE I WANT THAT PROCLAMATION TO BE BROUGHT TO AN EVENT. WHERE TO ME, IT'S MORE MEANINGFUL LIKE THIS, BECAUSE I HAVE PROCLAMATION'S HERE, DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN AND, YOU KNOW, NOBODY EVER COMES AND COLLECTS THEM, DOES NOT MEAN THAT I DON'T BRING THEM SOMEWHERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I I'LL BRING MY MY BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN LIBRARY ON SISTROM AND I WILL GIVE IT TO MY CONTACT THERE. YOU'LL RECALL I GAVE A PROCLAMATION TO ALIMA NORRLAND. SO I HAVE CONNECTIONS, YOU KNOW, WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. IF I REQUEST A PROCLAMATION AND NOBODY COMES HERE TO COLLECT, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M NOT. I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE THAT PROCLAMATION SIT ON MY DESK. IT MEANS SOMETHING AND I'M GOING TO BRING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIMES, THAT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE SIT IN A COMMISSION MEETING. IF THE PROCLAMATION IS NOT BEING COLLECTED BY ANYBODY OR IF I DON'T WANT TO READ IT, THEN PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA SO THAT IT JUST GOES RIGHT THROUGH. IT'S A PART OF THE RECORD. IT'S A PART OF CITY HALL. RIGHT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT I REQUEST, AND I WOULD LIKE THE VERBIAGE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE THE CITY COMMISSION AND NOT NECESSARILY ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR, HER DRESSLER OR GOMEZ PROCLAMATIONS ARE FROM ALL OF US. IT'S REQUESTED BY SOMEBODY, BUT IT'S FROM THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. AND I THINK THAT'S HOW THE BROWARD COUNTY, BROWARD COUNTY HAS IT. SO, YES, WE STILL WANT PROCLAMATION'S OR I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. YES, I STILL WANT PROCLAMATION'S. IF THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO COLLECT IT OR IF IT'S MY DESIRE THAT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE READ, IT GOES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IF THERE'S NOBODY HERE TO COLLECT IT OR IF THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE TO COLLECT IT. AND I WANT IT TO BE READ AND I WANT TO READ THE PROCLAMATION MYSELF AND THE LANGUAGE SHOULD SAY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COMMISSION THAT THERE IS HEREBY WHATEVER, WHATEVER, JENNIFER, JOHN, SOME DAY IN THE CITY OF TAMRAT, SO TO SPEAK. SO THAT'S MY TWO CENTS ON THE. THANK YOU FOR THE TWO CENTS A GALLON. MR. GARLAND. [05:25:02] I AGREE WITH THAT PART OF ME, I'M EATING MY LUNCH OR DINNER OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, BUT LUNCH OR DINNER? I AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T MIND IF IT SAYS MAYOR AND COMMISSION, BUT YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ IT. AND SAM WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT YOU DID READ THE PROCLAMATION. IN ORDER TO SAVE TIME, WE SHOULD NOT READ THEM IF THE PERSON IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE. SO BUT YEAH, OTHER OTHER CITIES AND OTHER COUNTIES WILL ALLOW THE PERSON THAT REQUESTED THE PROCLAMATION TO READ THE PROCLAMATION AND HAND IT TO THE PERSON AND TAKE THE PHOTO AND EVERYTHING. SO I DON'T MIND THAT THAT MINOR CHANGE. MR. BOLTON. YEAH, JUST TO ADD, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU'RE WATCHING THE CITY OF MIRAMAR MEETING OR YOU GO THERE OR I THINK IT WAS PARKLET TO BE THE PERSON WHO REQUESTED THE PROCLAMATION ACTUALLY GOES DOWN, TAKES A PICTURE WITH WHOEVER THE PROCLAMATION IS GIVEN TO. AND THE ENTIRE MAYOR AND COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE TO GO DOWN. EVEN BROWARD COUNTY, THEY JUST THEY JUST STAND THERE. OR YOU CAN INVITE THE REST OF THE THE BOARD TO COME DOWN AND TAKE THE PICTURE. SO IT'S A VARIATION OF WAYS, BUT AT LEAST THE ITEMS THAT I MENTIONED SHOULD BE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION. SO WHEN WE WERE IN PUBLIC, WE HAD STOP READING THOSE THAT WEREN'T COMING THROUGH WHEN WE STARTED TO GO ON VIRTUAL. THERE WAS SOMETIMES WHEN THERE WAS SOME CONFLICT OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO ACCEPT THEM AFTERWARDS AND THE DESIRE FOR THEM TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD. SO IF THE COMMISSIONER WHO IS ASKING FOR THE ITEM WOULD BE SO KIND TO LET THE CITY CLERK KNOW WHERE SHE CAN PUT THIS ITEM ON PROCLAMATION TO BE READ FOR PROCLAMATION'S AND TO CONSENT, NOT A PROBLEM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHEN SOMEBODY IS ASKING FOR A PROCLAMATION, IF IT IS SOMEBODY HAS SOMEBODY COMING OR NOT. THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THAT I DON'T. THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON WHO WISHES FOR A PROCLAMATION. THE WHOLE CITY WISHES TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY MONTH. THE WHOLE CITY WISHES TO CELEBRATE CRIBBEN CITY, TO CELEBRATE HELP WISHES, COMMIT, TO CELEBRATE FOR WOMEN'S HISTORY, ALL THOSE KINDS OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT. SO MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE SOME. UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, IT SHOULD BE FROM THE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSION AND I, AS YOU'VE KNOWN FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I'VE READ THE PROCLAMATIONS, DESPITE WHAT IT IS SAID, I HAVE ADDED ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY, FOR MYSELF, ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMISSION, BECAUSE I HAVE TRIED TO MAKE THIS. UNIVERSAL FOR ALL OF US, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY ALL CARE. SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I ALSO THINK THAT WHAT WOULD BE NICE IS THAT I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF HOW MUCH WORK GOES INTO DRAFTING PROCLAMATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT JUST COOKIE CUTTER, THEY'RE NOT JUST THROWN UP THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF TIME THAT GOES INTO IT. AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME REWRITING CERTAIN THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE CURRAN'S AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACCURATE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEANINGFUL. SO IF THIS COMMISSION AS A WHOLE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH PROCLAMATION'S AND I ASK THIS COMMISSION, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE SOMETHING PUT ON YOUR PROCLAMATION, THEN MAYBE YOU HELP WITH THE DRAFTING FOR ME TO PROCEED WITH THE DRAFTING AND FINALIZE FINALIZATION OF IT. AS FAR AS IF PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO READ THEIR OWN PROCLAMATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMEBODY THEY WANT TO READ IT TO, I DON'T CARE. NOT A PROBLEM. YOU WANT TO READ IT TO YOUR HEART'S CONTENT. THAT WOULD BE NICE IF WE'RE BACK IN PUBLIC SO WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE COME AND ACCEPT THEM. COMMISSIONER BALTON, THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER THING OF THE PROCLAMATION'S THAT I HAVE REQUESTED. OUR PROCLAMATIONS THAT I'VE REQUESTED SINCE 2016, AND SO THEY DON'T REQUIRE A LOT OF STAFF WORK BECAUSE I VERY SELDOM HAVE ADDITIONAL PROCLAMATIONS THAT I WANT TO REQUEST. ALSO, IN THE PAST, WHEN I HAVE HAD ADDITIONAL PROCLAMATION, WHAT I'VE DONE IS SEND THE WORDING TO THE TO THE CLERK AND THEN SHE PUTS THAT ON THE PROCLAMATION, WHATEVER, AND THEN MAYBE SHE'LL CHANGE A COUPLE OF WORDS. [05:30:04] BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS I'VE WORKED WITH THE CLERK, WHETHER THIS ONE OR THE PREVIOUS ONE, WHEN I HAVE ONE OF THE PROCLAMATIONS FO INDIVIDUALS. BUT WHAT I WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY IS IF I IF I HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND I'VE WORKED ON THE WORDING LIKE I'VE HAD, LIKE I'VE DONE IN THE PAST, THEN I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT YOU TO CHANGE THE WORDING AND WORK ON THE WORDING BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE BODY. YOU'RE SIGNING IT. BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE MY COLLEAGUE. SO I DON'T WANT YOU CHANGING MY WORK OR PROOFREADING IT BECAUSE THAT'S MY WORK. THAT'S MY PROCLAMATION. I, I BROUGHT FORWARD THE LANGUAGE. SO IF THE LANGUAGE IS GOING TO BE CHANGED, THEN I WANT TO KNOW THAT THE LANGUAGE IS GOING TO BE CHANGED. AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO YOU. BUT AGAIN, IT'S IT'S MY PROCLAMATION. AND I DID ALL THIS WORK TO BRING THE WORDING TO STAFF OR THAT'S THE STUFF. AND THEN TO HAVE IT CHANGED OVERNIGHT AND THEN READ IN ANOTHER WAY, THEN IT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH, THAT CHANGES WITH THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION. I'M NOT FAULTING YOU FOR THAT. IT WAS TASTEFULLY DONE. SO I GUESS SOMETIMES THIS IS GOOD. BUT JUST TO BE TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE ONE OR TWO WORDS ARE BEING CHANGED, I THINK THAT'S A MORE COLLEGIAL WAY OF DOING THINGS AND LETTING THE PERSON KNOW, LIKE I'M CHANGING IT. NOT LIKE YOUR PROCLAMATION IS IN THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE AND I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. AND THAT'S THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE PROCLAMATIONS NOW, BUT AT LEAST SAY THAT, HEY, I'M GOING TO MAKE CHANGES. THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE WERE MADE ON ONES THAT WERE NOT DRAFTED BY ANYBODY. WELL, I'M ONE OF THEM WAS NOT DRAFTED BY ANY OF THE COMMISSION HERE. AND IF YOU DRAFTED THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH ONE, THEN. YES, BUT DOESN'T HAVE NO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE DRAFTED THAT ONE. AND I ADDED TO IT TO MAKE IT MORE CURRENT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE. THERE WAS ONE POINT WHERE I HAD TO DO A REWRITE WAS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE MADE THIS COMMISSION LOOK FOOLISH BECAUSE THE ITEMS WITHIN IT WERE NOT CORRECT ON A MULTI LEVEL ITEMS IN THERE. AND IT WAS DONE NOT FOR EMBARRASSMENT, IT WAS DONE TO MAKE SURE I'M PUTTING MY SIGNATURE ON ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMISSION. AND I DID NOT WANT US TO LOOK FOOLISH, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IF I NOW KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS DRAFTING IT, THEN AS LONG AS IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT. IF IT GOES TO THE CITY CLERK AND IT'S PRESENTED TO ME THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, I CAN KNOW THAT. AND THEN IF THERE'S A MASSIVE ACCIDENTAL ERROR, WHICH I'M SURE WHAT WAS HAPPENED IN THAT LAST PROCLAMATION I'M REFERRING TO, IT COULD BE ADDRESSED AGAIN AS TO NOT EMBARRASS ANYBODY IN THE CITY, ESPECIALLY AS YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING THIS TO SOMEBODY AND IT'S GOING TO MEAN A LOT TO THEM. GARLAND. COMMISSION WANTED TO ADD THAT I DO THE SAME THING, I HAVEN'T SUBMITTED A PROCLAMATION IN THE LONG TIME AS WELL, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AS WELL, I GET LANGUAGE THAT ALREADY EXISTS. SO WHEN IT CAME THE BAN, THE BOX, WHEN IT CAME TO WHITE SUPREMACY, WHEN IT CAME TO THE TRUMP THING, THERE WAS ALWAYS LANGUAGE OUT THERE. SO I DID MY OWN RESEARCH, GOOGLE FIND IT. AND I ALREADY SAID AND I SAID THAT STUFF TO SAM. SO IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, YOU EARLIER YOU TALKED ABOUT A COST. THERE SHOULD BE VERY LITTLE COST BECAUSE I'M ALREADY PROVIDING ALL THE WORK. AND COST IS ALWAYS THE FIRST THING ON MY MIND, WHICH IS WHY DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING, I TALKED ABOUT GATHERING ALL THE DOCUMENTS FIRST BEFORE HIRING AN H.R. CONSULTANT, BECAUSE THAT WAY IT REDUCES THE COSTS. WE HIRE H.R. CONSULTING FIRST. THEY'RE GOING TO DO ALL THAT WORK IN CHARGE. SO WE MIGHT AS WELL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR RESOURCES, GET ALL THE INFORMATION UP FRONT AND THEN HIRE SOMEBODY AND MINIMIZE THE COST, OF COURSE, IS ALWAYS A FACTOR. AND THEN I'M SURE THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL AGREE. THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT OTHER TEMPLATES THAT ALREADY EXIST INSTEAD OF REINVENTING THE WHEEL. SO I ALWAYS GET SAMPLE ORDINANCES OR THAT ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED BY OTHER CITIES, PROVIDED SAM HAS ALWAYS MADE SMALL CHANGES. SO IT APPLIES TO THE CITY OF TAMARACK AND I MINIMIZE MINIMIZE THEIR WORK. APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'RE STICKING ON THE PROCLAMATION'S PART, SO THE. COMMENTS ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW ARE FOR PROCLAMATION'S, THE DESIRE TO KEEP THEM ON [05:35:05] THE REQUEST IS FOR THERE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE READ. THE PERSON, THE COMMISSIONER WHO IS ASKING FOR THE PROCLAMATION IS GOING TO DESIGNATE IT AS SENSE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE CITY CLERK TO MAKE SURE TO PUT IN THAT AREA AND NOT READ. WE THEN COME DOWN TO. I'VE MADE THE REQUEST THAT IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE DRAFTING IT, THEY'RE GOING TO REQUEST AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRAFT IT, THAT I'D BE TOLD AND HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT DRAFTED OUTSIDE OF THIS OFFICE. AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO BE IN THE THREE COUNTS FOR THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORTH ON THE COMMISSION AND OUR AGENDA POINT OF CLARIFICATION AND IS A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY. SO THERE WOULD BE COLLABORATION BETWEEN COLLEAGUES WHO SHOULD DRAFT OR REWRITE DOCUMENTS. AND IF WE PUT IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THAT NOW BE A SOMETIME VIOLATION BECAUSE WE HAVE COORDINATED A PROCLAMATION BEFORE WE VOTED ON IT. I WOULD TELL YOU, I WOULD GIVE YOU A MORE CONSERVATIVE OPINION. AGAIN, THE SUNSHINE LAW TO CLOSE OR PROHIBIT MEMBERS COMMISSION FROM DISCUSSING ANY ITEMS THAT YOU DIDN'T VOTE ON. IT COULD BE IN LINE AND IT COULD BE MY TEXT AND IT COULD BE IN DIFFERENT FONT. SO IF YOU ARE DISCUSSING THIS ITEM OUTSIDE THE PUBLIC MEETING, YES, IT MAY BE A POSSIBLE SUNSHINE ISSUE. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY URGE, YOU KNOW, IF IF ANYTHING, IF A REQUEST OR SPONSOR EVERYTHING SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK AND CITY CLERK SHOULDN'T BE THE ONE WHO'S COMMUNICATING WITH THE SPONSOR AND REVISING IS AS IMPORTANT. OK, YEAH. BECAUSE THEN UNDER THAT SCENARIO, IF I GIVE THE CITY CLERK A PROCLAMATION AND THEN THE CITY CLERK SENDS IT TO THE MAYOR AND THEN THE MAYOR MAKES CHANGES AND THEN THE CITY CLERK COMES BACK TO ME AND SAY, HEY, THE MAYOR MADE THESE CHANGES. IT'S LIKE THE CITY CLERK IS BECOMING A CONDUIT. SO I WOULD THEN JUST CAUTION ANY MEMBER OF THIS BODY THAT IF I OR ANYONE SENDS FORWARD A PROCLAMATION, DO NOT TOUCH IT. LET LET STAFF WORK ON THE CLOCK ON THE PROCLAMATION AND, YOU KNOW, BE DONE WITH IT AND THEN JUST TO BE CLEANER SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES. BECAUSE THEN IF I SEND A PROCLAMATION, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY CLERK IS GOING TO SEND IT TO THE MAYOR FOR SOME PREVIOUS SIGNATURE. SO SCRATCH THAT IDEA OF PUTTING THE THE CONSENT OF GENERAL CONSENT AGENDA. OK. GOOD POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LISTEN TO GARLAND. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, NOT HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA. AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO BE READY. WE'RE GOING TO SAY, LIKE YOU SAID THIS MORNING, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR X, Y AND Z AND THEN READ WHAT NEEDS TO BE READ AND DON'T READ WHAT NEEDS TO BE READ IN THAT WAY. WE SAVE SOME TIME, BUT WE CAN JUST READ THE BIBLES. YEAH, READ THE TITLES. CORRECT. THAT WE FIND. AND THAT'S HOW WE WERE DOING IT PRIOR TO GOING INTO COVID, AS YOU KNOW. AND THAT'S FINE. WELL ARE WE LET GO. GO AHEAD. BECAUSE I STILL HAVE TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE COUNT, THE THREE COUNT. SO GO AHEAD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE RULES OF PROCEDURE IS SILENT ON POPULATION. SOME KIDS AND THE BECAUSE POPULATION, KIDS, THE CITIES ARE BASICALLY THE SAME. SO IF IF WE ARE FROM THE DIRECTION IF YOU WANT POPULATION DENSITY, THEN WE MAY NEED TO PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THE RULES THAT THE SPONSOR MAYBE THE POPULATION OF THE KEY CITY. SO IT IS IN THE RULE AND CLEAR DIRECTIONS THAT MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE THE SEPARATE TOPIC ON THE CITY, THAT'S A WHOLE NEW THING THAT IS BEING ASKED FOR SO THAT IT'S DEALING WITH PROPERTY. [05:40:01] YES. RESPECT TO PROCLAMATION'S. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE WORLD AS WE SPEAK TODAY IN TERMS OF THE AND UNLESS YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF ITEMS. BUT THE ISSUE THAT WILL MAKE SURE WE SPONSOR OF THE PROCLAMATION HOUSE UPON REQUEST HAS THE DISCRETION TO EITHER READ IT OR NOT READ IT. ARE WE CLEAR ON THAT FROM THAT STANDPOINT? YES. YES, IT DOES. WHOMEVER WILL PASS THE PROCLAMATION AND READ IT IF HE OR SHE WISHES TO READ IT. OK. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE DONE WITH THAT PART, WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT PART, CORRECT. AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO READ IT IF THE PERSON WHO IS SPONSORING IT WILL MAKE SURE THE WORK KNOWS AHEAD OF TIME IF SOMEBODY'S COMING TO RECEIVE IT AND IF IT'S TO BE READ OR NOT TO BE READ. AT THIS POINT, THOUGH, WE'RE NOW UP TO WHETHER OR NOT THE THREE PROCLAMATION'S ARE CONSIDERING THE AGENDA COUNTS FOR THE THREE AGENDA ITEMS WHICH WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT IS. WE'LL KEEP THAT CONSISTENT. ANIBAL. I DON'T HAVE ANY. YEAH, I'M CONSIDERING IT. THAT'S THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO STUMBLE, BUT I'M JUST I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IT JUST JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE ACCIDENTS IN THE PAST. WHAT ONE THING I THINK OF STAFF WILL AGREE WITH ME ON IS THAT I'M VERY CONSISTENT WITH MY THOUGHTS AND I WILL COME YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR UNTIL THAT, UNTIL THOSE IDIOTS COME TO PASS. AND WHAT I'VE SAID IS THERE ARE GOING TO BE MONTHS WHERE YOU THERE YOU ARE MORE YOU'RE BUSIER THAN THAN ANOTHER MONTH. RIGHT. SO I THINK ONE SIGN THAT YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT OF RUMBLING WHERE I THINK THAT, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT MONTH WAS IT? THERE IS A MONTH. THAT IS THAT IS COMING UP WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONE WILL HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PROCLAMATIONS BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE CELEBRATING A LOT OF THINGS IN THAT MONTH. SO I'M TEMPTED TO SAY DON'T INCLUDE PROCLAMATION'S, BUT I JUST I JUST WANT TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS. SO I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD AT THIS POINT. MR. GAGNON. ACCORDING TO THE MEMO FROM THE CITY MANAGER, IT SAYS, PER THE CODE, THE THREE AGENDA ITEM LIMIT INCLUDES PROCLAMATION'S, BUT STAFF DOES NOT INCLUDE PROCLAMATION'S IN THE ACCOUNT. SO WHY ARE WE GOING AGAINST OUR CODE? WE DO SO. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE ON THAT OR A CHANGE ON IT, THEN, BUT AS IT IS AND WHILE THE ATTORNEY IS DOING THE AMENDMENT TO THE PROCEDURE, HE WILL NOT HE WILL CLARIFY. YES, I WILL. IF THAT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COMMISSIONER GARLAND? WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, BASICALLY, THE INTERPRETATION THAT THE COMMISSION OR DIRECTION THAT THE COMMISSION IS GETTING IS THAT THE CUSTOMARY PRACTICE IS NOT INCLUDING THE PROCLAMATION. AS A THREE ITEM, I SHOULD NOT GO FORWARD. JUST THREE ITEMS BEING THREE ITEMS THAT SHOULD GO WELL. WELL, I DON'T THINK PROCLAMATION'S SHOULD BE INCLUDED. AND THEN I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADD FIVE ITEMS TO ADD TO THE AGENDA EACH. OR FOR JUST THAT TIME? NO, NO TENNIS TOO MUCH THE SAME COMMISSION THAT IS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND ON THE MEETINGS. YEAH, BUT SO SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTING POLICIES THAT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T REALLY GET INTO THE WHOLE PROCLAMATION THING. I INTRODUCE ORDINANCES THAT I THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY. SO SO I REALLY TRY TO PRACTICE MY ROLE AS A LAWMAKER AND MAKING AND CREATING LAW. AND SO I AM INTERESTED, INTERESTED IN BRINGING ITEMS TO THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ITEMS TODAY. AND I ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS I WATCH THE NEWS AND STUDY WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER CITIES [05:45:08] ACROSS THE COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, I MAY HAVE A DAY WHERE I HAVE THREE OR FOUR ITEMS, WHO KNOWS? BUT, YOU KNOW, STAFF DOES NOT INCLUDE PROCLAMATION'S. SO WE SHOULD WE SHOULD MAINTAIN THAT AND MAKE THAT LAW AND THEN INCREASE THE ITEMS FROM THREE TO FOUR. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO GO ON. WE'RE NOT BISNIS, I'M GOOD. I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO MR. GOODVIN VICE MAYOR. YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OF NOT HAVING CORPORATIONS INCLUDED IN THE COUNT AND YOU WANT TO SHOW NOT BEING YOU BROUGHT BY, OK, IT SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED AND HAVE ADDITIONAL ITEMS OR THREE ITEMS PLUS YOUR PROCLAMATION'S. THAT'S MY INTAKE. OR WHETHER THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. YES. RIGHT. MR. BOLTON, YES, WELL, I AGREE THAT PROCLAMATION'S SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE COUNT NOW IN THE PAST HAVE NOT AGREED, BUT NOW I AGREE. AND IN JUST JUST GOING BACK TO WHAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND SAID, HE MADE UP HE MADE A A POINT THAT HE DOESN'T HE'S NOT REALLY INTO THE PROCLAMATION THING, BUT HE HE PROPOSES LAWS AND THAT'S THE STUFF. WELL, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE OUR RESOLUTION IS JUST LIKE PROCLAMATION'S. THERE'S JUST AN EXPRESSION OF HOW SOMEONE FEELS. AND IT'S NOT REALLY A LAW. RIGHT. RIGHT. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S NOT A LAW. SO, YOU KNOW, HE'S HE'S WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF IF IF I WERE TO DO A RESOLUTION AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING I CAN DO, I CAN DO A RESOLUTION RESOLUTION BY MYSELF AND I CAN MAIL OUT THAT RESOLUTION TO MY MY MY RESIDENTS. A RESOLUTION OF GARLAND BOLTON SAYING X AND MAKE SOME X AND WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENED AND NOW THEREFORE I DENOUNCE PRESIDENT TRUMP. I CAN DO THAT. I CAN DO MY OWN RESOLUTION. I CAN, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I FEEL. SO AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH A PROCLAMATION. THIS I'M JUST SAYING HOW I FEEL ABOUT A CERTAIN PERSON, WHICH IS WHY I ALWAYS TALK TO GARLAND EVEN IF THE COMMISSION DOESN'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING, YOU KNOW, STILL RESPECT THEIR OPINIONS AND AND STILL SAY HOW YOU FEEL TO YOUR TO YOUR RESIDENCE. MAYOR, DON'T ALLOW THEM TO JUST MOVE ON. THIS IS THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S CONSISTENCY. SO ON ONCE THAT'S FOR ONE, IT FITS FOR THE OTHER. RIGHT. JUST AS WHEN ONE PERSON WAS ABLE TO GET THEIR APPOINTMENTS ON WITHOUT GOING THROUGH OR TWO PEOPLE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. BUT NOW IT'S NOT OK WHEN SOMEBODY WAS NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR ITEM ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE SHE HAD THREE PROCLAMATION'S LOVE. HOW THAT WORKS NOW, MR. GARLAND, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. SURE. SO, COMMISSIONER, PULL THING. PASSING A SMALL BUSINESS PREFERENCE PROGRAM IS MAKING LAW. LOCAL BUSINESS PREFERENCE PREFERENCE PROGRAM IS MAKING LAW. I PROBABLY MADE MORE LAW THAN ANYONE ON THIS COMMISSION OR ANYONE IN THE LAST TWENTY YEARS OR SO. THAT IS MY ROLE. I'M ALWAYS LOOKING TO DO THINGS TO IMPROVE THE CITY AND IMPROVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE VETERANS BUSINESS PREFERENCE PROGRAM. SO I'M ALWAYS INTRODUCING ITEMS THAT WILL WILL MAKE LAW. AND SOMETIMES I DO PASS RESOLUTIONS WHEN, AS YOU SAID WITH YOUR MARKETING STATEMENT, THAT IT'S ALWAYS RIGHT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITY TO CONDEMN THE ACTIONS OF OUR TRAITOROUS PRESIDENT THAT TRIED TO ESTABLISH A COUP. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE ALL SUPPORTED. BUT THAT'S JUST MY VIEW. AND COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER GARLAND, THIS IS NOT A REBUTTAL, BUT I MEAN, WHEN YOU LEAVE LAW, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE WHEN HE LEAVES OFFICE, HE CAN SURELY SAY THAT TOM RIDGE VILLAGE WAS HIS IDEA. IT WAS. BUT I'LL TAKE CREDIT FOR IT. YEAH. THAT BEING A COMMISSION WORKING FORWARD AS A COLLEGIAL BODY IS THAT WE CAN ALL TAKE CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S GOOD IN THE CITY. AND WE ALSO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING THAT'S BAD TOGETHER. AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE UNDERSTOOD SOMETIME REALLY SOON ANYWAY. SO MOVING RIGHT ALONG IT THINGS. MAYOR, CAN WE GET THIS ONE FIVE TO RECAP THAT RIGHT NOW. [05:50:04] AND I'M GOING TO REMIND EVERYBODY IT'S 415. I HAVE BEEN REMINDED THAT WE CUT OFF ON FACEBOOK AT FIVE THIRTY, THEREFORE AT FIVE THIRTY OR FIVE TWENTY EIGHT, I WILL BE CUTTING US OFF AND RESTARTING US IF WE ARE NOT COMPLETE. SO AND THEN WE WILL RESTART AGAIN. SO I HAVE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW SOMETHING THAT I GUESS IS AGREED UPON AT THIS POINT. PROCLAMATION'S DO NOT COUNT IN THE ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA. THEN IT COMES DOWN TO TECH CURRENTLY, AS OUR RULES HAVE IT, THREE ITEMS COUNT. YES, A REQUEST TO ADD THAT TO BE ONE MORE FOR ITEMS THERE. YES, WHAT THREE PLUS ONE FOR THERE IS A REQUEST TO ADD ANOTHER ITEM TO THE AVAILABILITY OF WHAT THE COMMISSION CAN PLACE ON THE AGENDA PER PERSON ON THE COMMISSION. DO WE WISH TO RAISE IT TO FOUR? ARE WE KEEPING IT AT THREE? EXCLUSIVE OF PROCLAMATION'S. I WILL GET BEFORE I'VE GOT OK WITH FOUR O'CLOCK. I'M OK WITH FOR MR. BOLTON. I'M NOT OK WITH IT. BUT I THINK THE THE MAJORITY RULES, I THINK FOR FOUR FOUR ITEMS FOR ITEMS ON AN AGENDA, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE GARLAND GETS US AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, EVEN IF THE MEETING STARTS AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, I MEAN, FOUR IS A LOT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR REGULAR ITEMS AND THEN THREE PROCLAMATION'S. WHAT IF I DECIDE HERE I WANT ALL MY PROCLAMATION'S RED, THEN I WANT TO DISCUSS ALL MY FOUR ITEMS AT LENGTH. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT YOU GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS FOR. GENTLEMEN, IT'S TIME TO BE MINDFUL. WE DO HAVE A FIVE MINUTE RULE ON FILIBUSTERING. I'VE NEVER INSTITUTED I'VE NEVER STOPPED YOU, ANY OF YOU. THAT'S A GENERAL. YOU HAVE NEVER STOPPED ANYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION FROM SPEAKING. WE'VE HAD IT IN OUR RULES THAT ALSO SAY IT'S ONE TIME AROUND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE MAYOR GO AROUND AGAIN. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE DONE WHILE I'VE BEEN HERE LETTING EVERYBODY AT LEAST TWICE. I HAVE GIVEN EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMITTEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, THOUGH IT IS UP TO EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY TO TRY TO BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME AND OTHER PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION. SO WE DON'T HAVE EIGHT HOUR MEETINGS ANYWAY. AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REVISE THE PROCLAMATION. ORDNANCE. WHERE THE COUNT WILL NOT INCLUDE I'M SORRY, THE ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA ORDNANCE, THE COUNT WILL NOT INCLUDE THE PROCLAMATION'S UP TO FOUR ITEMS. AND GOOD. SO. SO WE GET EVERYTHING WE NEED FOR THE RECORD. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM IS CLARITY NEEDED ON HOW COMMISSIONERS AND OR THE MAYOR DEALS WITH COMPLAINTS WHEN MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS ARE CONTACTED, ESPECIALLY AS I THINK NOT ALL THE TIME DO WE INDIVIDUALLY KNOW THAT OTHER PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION HAVE BEEN CONTACTED. SO I'LL PUT THIS ONE TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR. FOR BASICALLY. IT'S ACTUALLY MIX BETWEEN US FOR ALL OF US. THE PROBLEM LIES WE DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW WHEN I GET AN EMAIL THAT IS DIRECTED TO ME AND SAYS, MAYOR GOMEZ, THAT THAT SAME PERSON HAS EMAILED THE COMMISSIONER GOALTEND COMMISSIONER GARLAND, VICE MAYOR LOBO'S AND BLOCK. WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO EACH OTHER'S EMAILS. AND IT'S NOT LIKE OUR PEOPLE IN OUR OFFICE ARE TELLING US THAT SOMEONE ELSE GOT THE SAME EMAIL. SO THERE SHOULD BE. I GUESS THAT STAFF OR WE ARE ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE ON HOW TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MAKE THIS PROCESS MORE STREAMLINED. AND THEN THERE ARE EMAILS THAT COME IN THAT ARE DIRECTED TO ALL OF US. AND THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF ONE THAT'S DIRECTED TO ALL OF US WHO IS RESPONDING AND WHO IS WHO SHOULD BE RESPONDING. CHECK ON YOUR HANDS UP FIRST. YEAH, ANYONE WHO EMAILS ME WILL GET A RESPONSE BACK FROM ME. IF IF IF THAT PERSON IS IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT, I'LL COPY THAT PERSON OR FORWARDED TO THAT PERSON. [05:55:01] BUT I THINK IT'S RESPECTFUL FOR ME TO RESPOND TO ANYBODY THAT REACHES OUT TO ME. SO THAT'S WHAT I DO. I GOT A VOICEMAIL FROM A LADY WHO REACHED OUT TO ME. HER DAUGHTER REACHED OUT TO ME AFTER GETTING MY MAIL PIECE IN KINGS POINT. SO HER DAUGHTER CALLED ME TO TRY TO HELP HER GET SOME SHOTS. I WAS ABLE TO GET SOME SHOTS FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND HER MOTHER WAS NOT WILLING TO GO TO FORT LAUDERDALE AND GET THE SHOTS BECAUSE HER MOTHER IS A MOBILE. SO THE MOTHER CALLED ME BECAUSE I SPOKE TO THE DAUGHTER AND LEFT ME A LONG VOICEMAIL. SO I REACHED BACK OUT AS A COURTESY. BUT THEN I ALSO FORWARDED THE VOICEMAIL TO ELVAN. AND SO I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ALL OF US TO RESPOND TO ANYBODY THAT THAT CONTACTS US. YOU KNOW, WHEN COMMISSIONER BOLTON WAS DOING HIS MATH GIVEAWAY, HE GAVE MASS TO PRETTY MUCH ANYONE TO ASK FOR IT. AND HE GAVE MASK AWAY IN MY DISTRICT AND PLACAS DISTRICT. AND AND THAT WAS A GREAT THING. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WE WE GET TOO CAUGHT UP IN THESE IMAGINARY LINES THAT DON'T MEAN ANYTHING TO RESIDENTS. AND WE JUST NEED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO ANYONE THAT CONTACTS US. AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS AS A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY FORWARD OR COPY MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IN YOUR DISTRICT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW FROM A COUPLE OF A COUPLE OF THEM, THERE WAS A LADY THAT THAT REACHED OUT TO ALL OF US ABOUT POOR SERVICE. AND WHEN BY THE TIME I CALLED HER, I THINK SHE EMAILED ON A SATURDAY ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY. MAYOR GOMEZ, YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE TO RESPOND TO HER TIME. I CALLED HER. SHE HAD SPOKEN TO THREE COMMISSIONERS AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY HAPPY THAT SO MANY COMMISSIONERS RESPONDED TO HER IN A SHORT TIME AND SHE GOT THE ISSUE RESOLVED. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF BASIC RESPECT TO REPLY TO SOMETHING THAT REACHES OUT TO YOU AND THEN I GUESS SEND IT TO THE RESPECTIVE COMMISSIONER. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU, BEISNER. YEAH, I THINK THE SAME THING, TOO, I MEAN, IF I GET SOMETHING FROM SOMEONE ELSE, I'M JUST GOING TO SEND IT OVER. SO UNLESS, YOU KNOW, I CAN RESPOND TO IT WHEN IT'S A GROUP EMAIL, IT'LL BE NICE IF SOMEONE CAN REPLY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE IN YOUR DISTRICT, BECAUSE I PERSONALLY REPLY TO THEM SAYING, HEY, DID YOU HEAR BACK FROM YOUR COMMISSIONER? OR PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM ANYONE. YOU KNOW, THIS WAY. WE KNOW ALL OF US KNOW THAT, HEY, SOMEONE'S ALREADY LOOKING INTO THIS VERSUS TRYING TO GUESS THAT SOMEONE TAKE CARE OF IT, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MR. BOLTON. OK, SO. WHEN HARRY DRESSLER WAS HERE TO INCLUDE. COMMISSIONER GOMEZ, THEN COMMISSIONER GOMEZ, ALSO INCLUDE THEN COMMISSIONER PLECO AND ALL OF THE STAFF. MEMBERS THAT ARE. PRESENTLY ON THIS. MEETING, INCLUDING OUR CITY MANAGER. HARRY WRESTLER. AT A MEETING. WITHOUT ADVISING ME THAT THE MEETING WAS NOT BEING RECORDED. OR MINUTES WERE BEING TAKEN. LUMB BASTARDLY. FOR GOING TO KING'S POINT. HE CALLED ME NAMES THAT NO HUMAN BEING SHOULD CALL ANOTHER PERSON. HE TREATED ME AS IF I WAS A THIRD. LEVEL RESIDENTS FROM SOME PLACE THAT'S NOT CALLED A COUNTRY. AND. ALL OF YOU STOOD BY. AND LET HIM DO THAT. AND I THINK THAT THE ONLY PERSON THAT APOLOGIZED WAS COMMISSIONER POLACCO. AND I HAD GONE TO KING'S POINT. FOR A DEMOCRATIC CLUB MEETING, NOT EVEN IN CONNECTION WITH MY ROLE AS A AS A AS THE CITY COMMISSIONER. AND THEN WHEN AND THEN HE SAID THAT. THE THE ONLY THE MAYOR I REMEMBER THIS LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY, TELL YOU, I'M [06:00:04] YOUNG AND I'M SURE. ONLY THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR IS ALLOWED TO GO INTO ANY PERSON'S DISTRICT. AND AT THE TIME, HE SAID THAT, MAYOR, YOU WERE THE YOU WERE THE VICE MAYOR OR BECOMING THE VICE MAYOR BECAUSE I HAD SOME ISSUES WITH YOU JUST SHOWING UP IN MY DISTRICT. AND YOU SAID I'M THE VICE MAYOR. I CAN DO THAT. AND SO. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ALWAYS FROM THAT POINT ON SAID I'M GOING TO FOLLOW OUR RULES HERE, I'M NOT GOING TO STEP OVER ANYBODY OR GO TO THEIR DISTRICT OR THAT SORT OF STUFF WHEN I GAVE OUT MAOIST'S. TO RESIDENTS CITYWIDE. I INCLUDED COMMISSION TOGETHER, SO IF THERE WERE PEOPLE IN HIS DISTRICT THAT I WANTED TO GIVE MASS TO. HE CAN RECALL I MET HIM. SOMETIMES I WOULD DRIVE DOWN TO TAMARACK VILLAGE AND SAY, HERE, HERE ARE SOME MORE MS. I MET HIM AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE WOODLANDS, HERE'S SOME MORE MAPS BECAUSE WE WERE SO BUSY, I NEVER, EVER, EVER. WENT TO KNOCK ON THE DOOR OR CALL ONE OF HIS RESIDENTS AND SAID, HEY, HERE'S A MASK, BECAUSE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I SHOULD FOLLOW THE RULES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD IS THE SAME THING WITH COMMISSIONER POLACCO, RIGHT? WHEN I WAS GIVING OUT MASKS. AND THAT'S THE STUFF. I PROVIDED HER A LIST. OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN HER DISTRICT THAT RECEIVED MASKS, BECAUSE SHE SAID TO ME, GARLAND, THIS IS YOUR THING, THIS IS YOUR IDEA. GO AHEAD AND DO IT, BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DID NOT STEP ON HER TOES. AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I LIKE HER AS A PERSON IS BECAUSE I JUST DID NOT WANT TO STEP ON HER TOES. COMMISSIONER FISHMAN WAS THAT WAS ANOTHER THING, WORK OF ART, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SHE HAD TOLD ME THAT SHE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, CONSPIRACY THEORIES IN HER MIND. SO I DIDN'T I DIDN'T BOTHER WITH HER. SO I HAVE LONG BEEN RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S DISTRICTS AND NOT GO INTO THEIR DISTRICTS. I HIRED A COMPANY TO SEND OUT EMAILS ON MY BEHALF, NOT AS A COMMISSIONER. BUT AS A PERSON WHO WANTS HIS PROFILE TO BE. BIGGER IN THE STATE IN GENERAL. SO MY EMAILS THAT ARE NOT CITY EMAILS STRETCHES FAR AND WIDE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. BUT IF SOMEONE RESPONDS AND SAY, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS OR IT'S FROM ANOTHER DISTRICT, THEN I SEND IT. I DON'T EVEN RESPOND. I SEND IT TO COMMISSIONER GARLAND OR I SEND IT TO PEOPLE AND I SAY, F WHAT? I OR I FORWARD IT TO ELIAN. AND I SAY, ELIáN, MAKE SURE YOU FIND OUT WHO THIS PERSON IS, WHERE THIS PERSON LIVE, AND DIRECT THIS PERSON TO THE COMMISSIONER. ÉLIANE WOULD SAY, PEOPLE ALWAYS CALL HERE FOR YOU. THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THEIR COMMISSIONER IS, BUT THEY KNOW YOUR NAME. AND MY DIRECTION TO HER IS, DO NOT GIVE ME ANYBODY'S WORK, MAKE SURE YOU FIND OUT WHO THE COMMISSIONER IS. AND. PROCEED ACCORDINGLY. NOW, I AM A STICKLER FOR BRANDING, I'M A STICKLER FOR LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT I AM HERE TO HELP AND IT ABSOLUTELY RUBS ME THE WRONG WAY. WHEN A COMMISSIONER RESPONDS TO SOMEBODY IN MY DISTRICT NOW, IT'S OK TO SAY, HEY, HOW'S THE WEATHER? IT'S GREAT. BY THE WAY, I'M PASSING YOU TO COMMISSIONER BOLTON. WE ALL ARE HUMAN, RIGHT? SO WE CAN WE CAN RESPOND. WE CAN SAY THANK YOU FOR EMAILING ME IF YOU NEED ANYTHING. I'M HERE. BUT COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS YOUR IS YOUR COMMISSIONER. BUT THEN TO ATTEMPT TO SOLVE THE ISSUE AND THEN SEND ME AN FBI, I THAT'S NOT COOL. [06:05:09] AND THAT'S THAT'S HAPPENED, AND THAT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN. LIKE, I DON'T STAND FOR SOMEBODY EMAILS YOU. I HAVE AN ISSUE IN MY DISTRICT OR CAN YOU DO SOMETHING FOR ME? AND, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON LIVES IN IN MY DISTRICT. BUT THEN YOU TAKE YOU YOU MAKE IT INCUMBENT ON YOURSELF TO RESPOND TO THAT PERSON, SOLVE THE ISSUE, EVEN ENGAGE STAFF TO SOLVE THEIR ISSUE. AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE OF STAFF SOLVING THE ISSUE, ITS STAFF THAT SENDS ME. GARLAND ARE THIS COMMISSIONER IS SOLVING AN ISSUE IN YOUR DISTRICT? NO, I DON'T LIKE THAT. AND IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS, IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THIS BODY THAT WE WILL IT'S OK TO RESPOND TO PEOPLE'S ISSUES IN OTHER DISTRICTS. AND THAT'S THE STUFF. AND THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THIS COMMISSION. AND THAT'S FINE, BUT WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER, BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU, I AM A PASTOR AND I HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON MY HANDS. I WORK ON SUNDAYS AND I. I LOVE TO EXERCISE. I KNOCK ON DOORS. IF THAT IS THE CONSENSUS OF THIS BODY, YOU WILL HEAR OF ME IN KING'S POINT. YOU WILL HEAR OF ME IN WOODMAN'S. YOU WILL HEAR THAT I'M IN THE WOODLANDS KNOCKING ON DOORS AND TALKING TO RESIDENTS BECAUSE I CAN. AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO DO. I'M A PEOPLE'S PERSON. I'VE DONE IT. SO THAT'S HOW WE WANT TO DO THINGS. AND THAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THIS BODY. EVEN IF IT'S THREE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS, THAT I WILL BE DOING THAT STARTING TOMORROW BECAUSE I HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT AND I WILL NOT BE PASSING. ANY PROBLEMS OR ISSUES TO ANYBODY, IF I HEAR FROM A RESIDENT, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE? I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO THEM AND I'M GOING TO FIX THEIR ISSUE. AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR THE LAST OF IT. I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I'VE SOLVED THE ISSUE TO THE AD BECAUSE I'M GOOD AT IT. NOW. WHERE THE MAYOR'S POSITION IS CONCERNED. I FEEL LIKE IF SOMETHING GOES TO THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR SHOULD SAY, WELL, MS. MS. JOHNSTON, YOU LIVE IN CENTRAL PARK, I'M GOING TO ALLOW YOUR COMMISSIONER TO SOLVE YOUR ISSUE. AND AFTER THE COMMISSIONER DOES, HE'LL CIRCLE BACK WITH ME. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW. OR MR. KEITH, I KNOW YOU LIVE IN WOULD MIND AND THERE'S SOME COYOTES THAT'S RUNNING AROUND, PROBABLY COMMISSIONED A BOAT AND PUT THEM THERE, BUT I'M GOING TO LET COMMISSIONER PLECO DEAL WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S HER DISTRICT. YEAH, YOUR CITY WIDE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT OUR RESIDENTS DO SOMETIMES. THEY TREAT US LIKE. THEY ARE CHILDREN, AND IF YOU HAVE KIDS, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THAT CHILD WILL GO TO DADDY AND SAY, DADDY, CAN YOU BRING ME TWO MIDNIGHT COOKIES AND CREAM? AND DADDY SAYS, NOT TONIGHT. AND THEN. THE CHILD GOES AND SAY, MOMMY, CAN YOU BRING ME MY COOKIES AND CREAM, AND MOMMY SAYS, SURE. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE BAD GUY. THE MAYOR AND THE COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF SOLVING AN ISSUE AND MAY PROVIDE TWO DIFFERENT ANSWERS TO RESIDENTS, AND THAT COULD BE A BIG CONFLICT. IT HAPPENED AT AND VILLAS WHEN I WAS WORKING EXTREMELY HARD ON AN ITEM AND THEN THE MAYOR TOLD THEM SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I'M NOT FAULTING THE MAN FOR THAT. SHE LIKES TO SOLVE ISSUES AS I AM, AS I DO, BUT GUESS WHAT? THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALONG WITH YOUR COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS HOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE GRAY HAIR BEFORE YOU HAVE IT. ALLOW THE CITY COMMISSION NURSE TO DEAL WITH THEIR ISSUE, SO I'VE SAID MY PIECE, IF YOU WANT TO SOLVE ISSUES IN CENTRAL PARK AND YOU LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO, [06:10:01] SO BE IT. BUT I'M GOING TO BE SOLVING CRIME ISSUES IN HAMPTON HILLS BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF THEM. AND IF YOU WANT TO SOLVE COYOTE PROBLEMS IN WOODMAN'S AND YOU LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE, OR IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WOODMEN HOTEL AND ENGAGE PEOPLE'S PEOPLE OVER THERE, EVEN THOUGH YOU LIVE IN KINGS POINT, GO AHEAD. OR IF YOU WANT TO BE THE MAYOR AND KNOW THAT THERE IS A VACCINATION EVENT IN SOMEBODY'S DISTRICT AND YOU SHOW UP. AND NOT EVEN SAYING, HEY, COMMISSIONER, COME WITH ME BECAUSE I'M GOING TO YOUR DISTRICT, IF THAT'S HOW WE ALL WANT TO DO THIS THING, LET'S DO IT THAT WAY. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES TO OUR ISSUES. TRUST ME, I'M NOT THE POLICE COMMISSIONER HERE AND I CAN FUND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO DO. YOU WANT ME TO STAY IN MY DISTRICT? I WILL STAY IN MY DISTRICT. BUT I'M A STICKLER FOR BRANDING MY RESIDENTS. NO. THAT MARLON BOLTZMANN'S THEIR COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE, YEAH, THEY SEE ME ON THE BUS BENCHES. YEAH, THEY KNOW THAT MARLON BOLTON IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE AN ISSUE NOW. ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY SEE THIS MIKE GO IN AND THEY SEE THIS ELVAN VILLA-LOBOS, ALL THESE PEOPLE, SO NOW YOU HAVE 19 RESIDENTS LIKE THAT'S MESSING UP MY BRANDING. THAT'S MESSING UP WHAT I'VE DONE FOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. YOU MIGHT THINK THAT'S MY POINT, IS THAT THAT IS YOU'RE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTE FILIBUSTER. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER FLOCCO ON THAT. THAT'S OK. ALL RIGHT. THIS ONE IS A STICKLER FOR ME. I KNOW THE VICE MAYOR HAS HEARD ME SAY A MILLION TIMES. STAY IN YOUR OWN LANE. I DON'T MEAN DIRECTED AT HIM, BUT JUST I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF RESPECT. AND I REALIZE THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS DO ONE OF TWO THINGS. THEY SEND IT TO ALL FIVE OF US BECAUSE POSSIBLY THEY'RE NOT SURE WHO THEIR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER IS OR THEY DON'T GET THE RIGHT ANSWER FROM ONE. THEY MAY GET IT FROM ANOTHER. BUT THERE'S TO ME, TRULY, IT'S A MATTER OF RESPECT. THE FIRST THING I DO WHEN I GET AN EMAIL THAT GOES TO ALL FIVE OF US IS I GO INTO PROPERTY APPRAISER TO FIND OUT WHERE THAT RESIDENT LIVES. IF IT'S IN MY DISTRICT, GREAT. IF IT'S NOT, IT GETS FORWARDED. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO REPLY BACK TO THE RESIDENTS SO THEY DON'T THINK YOU'RE BEING NONRESPONSIVE. MY REPLIES PRETTY MUCH ALWAYS THE SAME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CONTACTING ME. YOUR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER AND I PUT THE NAME IN THERE, WILL BE CONTACTING YOU FOR RESOLUTION THE END. IF IT'S MINE, I WOULD EXPECT THE SAME COURTESY. I NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH MY RESIDENTS SO I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE WHEN THEY. THE OTHER THING OF THIS IS WHEN THEY SEND US ALL FIVE OF US, AN EMAIL ABOUT THEY ARE SO SLOW RESPONSE OR A CODE ISSUE AND ALL FIVE OF US ARE GOING TO THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS AN ISSUE. IT'S TAKING UP STAFF'S TIME FIVE TIMES OVER TO ANSWER THE SAME THING. IT SHOULD JUST BE THE THAT COMMISSIONER, I HAVE BEEN IN A POSITION WHILE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE THAT I HAD MY CARD ADVERTISED IN THE DEMOCRATIC CLUB AT KINGS POINT TO GIVE THEM FUNDS. AND THE COMMISSIONER CAME TO ME AND SAID, I THINK IT'S CONFUSING TO THEM TO HAVE YOUR CARD IN THERE. I IMMEDIATELY REMOVED IT BECAUSE HER DISTRICT AND THAT WAS RESPECTFUL FOR HER. SO MAKING A LONG STORY SHORT, I AM ON BOARD WITH THIS, THAT YOU GET SOMETHING THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT. PLEASE FORWARD IT TO ME. YOU CAN ACKNOWLEDGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CORRESPONDENCE. YOUR COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER PLAKA, WILL BE RESPONDING TO YOU NOW IF I DON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WELL, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM. BUT YOU NEED TO OFFER ME THE COURTESY TO DEAL WITH AND REPLY TO MY RESIDENTS FIRST. NOW, IF IT GOES TO THE MAYOR AS WELL, I THINK THE SAME THING. THANK YOU FOR CONTACTING ME. I AM TURNING THIS OVER TO YOUR CITY COMMISSIONER, AND SHE WILL KEEP ME INFORMED THIS WAY. YOU'VE ACKNOWLEDGED AND I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND YOU A RESPONSE OF WHAT I'VE DONE, BUT THIS ONE IS ONE I'LL I'LL KIND OF GO TO THE MAT FOR. SO THAT'S MY FIFTEEN CENTS WORTH. [06:15:05] OH, JUST LET ME ADD ONE MORE THING. WELL, I HAVE BEEN HERE. COMMISSIONER BOLTON, AS HE SAID, HAS ALWAYS BEEN EXCELLENT ABOUT THAT, HE ALWAYS FORWARDS TO ME, EVEN WITH THE THE SHOTS, TWO OF MY RESIDENTS CONTACTED HIM. HE CONTACTED ME, LET ME KNOW, HAD THEM CONTACT ME WITH THEM, THAT HE DID CALL AND ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO GO OUT AND DELIVER MAPS. SO I HAVE TO I HAVE TO GIVE HIM CREDIT ON THIS ONE. HE'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY WONDERFUL IN THAT ASPECT SINCE HE'S BEEN HERE. AND HE STAYED IN HIS LANE. I'VE STAYED IN MY LANE. IT'S ALL GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PLOTKA AND COMMISSIONER BALTON AND PERHAPS COMMISSIONER GARLAND THE SAME THING, DEFINITELY. AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD A TENDENCY OF ALWAYS REPLYING TO PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY OF THE I DON'T KNOW WHO'S REPLYING. AND THAT'S MY QUESTION TO EVERYONE. IS SOMEONE GETTING BACK TO THEM BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSING IF SOMEONE IS INVITING EVERYONE AND NO ONE'S RESPONDING. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL RUN FOR ELECTIONS AT LARGE AND NOT DISTRICTS. JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. YOUR COMMERCIAL IS NOTED BALTON, IT GOES BACK TO KNOWING YOUR DISTRICT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOUR DISTRICT AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE STREETS AND YOU DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE COMMUNITIES, YOU ARE GOING TO BE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE. IF I IF I HEAR SANABEL, I'M GOING TO BE VICE MAYOR. THIS IS YOURS. IF I HEAR PINEAPPLE PARK, I'M GOING BACK, WHOOPS, COMMISSIONER PLECO, THIS IS YOURS, YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE I KNOW MY COMMUNITIES AND I STUDIED THE STREETS AND I STUDY, YOU KNOW, JUST THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS OF EVERYTHING. OH, YEAH. YOU WANT ME TO START ALL THE WAY OUT OF THE GARLAND? I CAN DO 20 MINUTES OF IT. WE'D LIKE TO TALK LIKE SOUTH, DAMNINGLY NORTH PART OF TIME, RAX TRUSTEE AND I CAN GO DOWN THE STREET. OK, ALL RIGHT. SO IF THEY SAY THAT I'M A RESIDENT OF THIS COMMUNITY, I'M GOING TO IMMEDIATELY RESPOND TO THAT PERSON. IF THEY SAY, HEY, I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF I'M A RESIDENT OF SOMETHING ELSE, I'M NOT GOING TO RESPOND. AND HERE'S HERE'S ANOTHER WAY OF SHOWING HOW THIS WAS. THIS IS SO. THE OTHER DAY, WE ALL GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS OR NOT RESPONDING TO A LADY'S REQUEST OR, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY AND AFTER THE SITUATION WAS SOLVED AND THAT'S THE STUFF, THE LADY RESPONDED AND SHE SAID, OH, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. AND SHE NAMED THE NAMES AND SHE DID NOT. HAVE ME ON THE LIST OF NAMES, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE I DO NOT LIVE IN HER DISTRICT. SHE'S NOT MY RESIDENT. SO I, I, I RESPONDED AND I SAID TO HER, WHERE DO YOU LIVE? AGAIN, ISN'T YOUR COMMUNITY? AND IN DISTRICT FOUR, WHERE DEBORAH BLACKWELL IS THE COMMISSIONER AND SHE SAID, YES, RIGHT. AND I AND I RESPONDED TO HER. I SAID, THIS IS WHY I DID NOT RESPOND TO YOU, BECAUSE IT'S LONG BEEN A RULE THAT I DON'T MESS WITH SOMEBODY ELSE'S DISTRICT. AND SHE UNDERSTOOD IT. NOW, LET'S SAY IF IF WE HAD DONE THAT IMMEDIATELY WITH HER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERNS. YOUR COMMISSIONER WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU. YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESIDENTS WHAT THE RESIDENT WOULD BE EQUALLY AS GLAD THAT SOMEBODY HAS TAKEN THEIR ISSUE AND HAS RESPONDED THEN TO TRY TO SOLVE THE ISSUE AND THEN SAY, HEY, OH, MY GOSH, SO MANY PEOPL ARE TRYING TO SOLVE MY ISSUE NOW. I'M SO DIZZY. NO, IT'S IT'S IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. ALLOW ME TO RESPOND TO MY RESIDENTS AND ALLOW ME TO TO, YOU KNOW, TO TALK WITH THEM. NOW, I THINK, MAYOR, WHAT WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT IS NOT JUST COMMUNICATING WITH THEM WHEN THEY REACH OUT TO US. BUT COMMUNICATING WITH THEM WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO THEM. SO ARE WE ALLOWED TO SPEND CITIUS RESOURCES TO COMMUNICATE TO WHITMONT [06:20:01] RESIDENTS, IF I'M IN DISTRICT ONE OR KINGS POIN RESIDENTS? AM I ALLOWED TO USE CITY RESOURCES TO SEND A MAILER OUT, LET'S SAY, TO ANOTHER PERSON'S DISTRICT? BECAUSE THAT I THINK THAT ALSO FALLS IN THE LINE OF OF OF THIS CONVERSATION. AND IF THE ATTORNEY SAYS, HEY, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES YOU, DO WE WANT TO SAY THEN PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT PRECLUDES SOMEBODY BECAUSE. I DON'T WANT MY PEOPLE GETTING CONFUSED. SO, COMMISSIONER, I THINK PART OF YOUR LAST PART OF THIS, WHAT YOU'VE MENTIONED AND BROUGHT UP COMES FROM THE INCENTIVE FUNDS WHERE THE INITIATIVE FUNDS. AND THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION OF HOW THEY CAN BE USED AND UTILIZED. AND THAT CONVERSATION HAS NOT BEEN AGENDA AS YET. MAYBE IT'LL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA. I'M NOT REALLY SURE THE CITY MANAGER CAN STATE IF IT'S SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT AGENDA OR NOT. IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT FURTHER ON IN A MOMENT, WE CAN JUST KEEPING IN MIND OUR TIME FRAME, WE STILL HAVE SOME MORE TO GO. SO TO THE OTHER PARTS OF THIS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. WHEN PEOPLE RECEIVE EMAILS, WHEN WE ALL RECEIVE EMAILS, IF WE RECEIVE THEM BLIND COPY OR INDIVIDUALLY TO US, SOMETIMES THERE ARE NO ADDRESSES ON THERE TO KNOW WHAT DISTRICT THERE. AND SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT SAY THAT THERE ARE RESIDENT. WAS THAT. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS LOOK UP THE NAME AND IT WILL GIVE US ANOTHER THAT HAS BEEN DONE. I AIN'T GOT TIME FOR ALL OF THAT AND NOT ALL THE TIME, IS IT? WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. THEY DON'T SAY I AM A WOMAN PRESIDENT. I'M A DISTRICT RESIDENT, I'M A DISTRICT THREE OR WHATEVER. SO SOMETIMES WHEN THE RESIDENTS IN NEED, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GO BACK AND SAY, EXCUSE ME, YOU CAN'T REALLY TALK TO YOU RIGHT NOW. I NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE FIRST. CAN WE TRY IT? YES, NO PROBLEM WITH IT. AND MOST PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THAT I DO SEND THEM TO THEIR RESPECTIVE PERSONS BECAUSE YOU ARE THEIR DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS AND IT IS FOR YOU TO HANDLE. BUT I WILL SAY WHEN I GET AN EMAIL BACK OR A CALL FROM A RESIDENT THAT SAYS MY COMMISSIONER HAS NOT RESPONDED TO ME AND THEY WANT MY HELP, I AM THE MAYOR, I WILL HELP THEM. I AM NOT GOING TO LET SOMEBODY FLAIL BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT, BECAUSE I DO RUN CITYWIDE, AS WE'VE ALL MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO KNOW THAT. AND IF THEY HAVE WANT MY HELP, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GIVE IT AND. AS I SAID, IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO I KNOW THE DISTRICT, I DO PUT IT UP AND GIVE IT TO THEM TO HANDLE AS FAR AS ATTENDING MEETINGS, JUST THE RECOLLECTION OF OUR VERY YOUNG COMMISSIONER. I WAS THERE AT THE TIME AND IT WAS AN INVITATION BY THE BOARD FOR ME TO ATTEND THAT MEETING. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS THERE. I WAS NOT VICE MAYOR AND AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SAMARRA, I CAN GO TO MEETINGS IF I'M INVITED BY THEM. I DO NOT NEED TO BE INVITED BY ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS. AS FAR AS INVITING ANOTHER PERSON WHO IS IF I GO TO A DISTRICT AND THERE'S A MEETING, IT'S NOT MY OBLIGATION TO INVITE THAT DISTRICT COMMISSIONER TO THAT MEETING. IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT AND THEY ARE INVITED BY THE PERSON WHO'S HOLDING THE MEETING, THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON WHO'S HOLDING THE MEETING, NOT MINE. SO I THINK THAT THERE IS CONSENSUS ON THIS COMMISSION THAT. IF IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU WILL RESPOND. AND IF IT'S NOT IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU WILL HAVE THE COURTESY TO SAY YOUR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER WILL BE RESPONDING AND HAVE THAT PROCEED IN THAT MANNER. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN THE. CONSENSUS OUT OF AT LEAST. THE COMMISSION THAT I'VE HEARD. SO. AS FOR PUTTING THIS INTO CUSTOMARY PRACTICES AND PUTTING THIS INTO POLICY, MAY I HAVE MY HAND UP? I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I STILL DO HAVE THE FLOOR FOR A MINUTE, SO I'M ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY SOMETHING. THESE ARE COSMETIC PROCEDURES AND PRACTICES THAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO. BUT INSPIRITING. YOUR OPINION, WHICH SPOKE TO DISCUSS THEM IN PRACTICE, OBVIOUSLY IT HASN'T BEEN PUT IN WAITING FOR OBVIOUS REASONS BECAUSE IT WITH RESPECT TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, IS UNENFORCEABLE TO A CERTAIN DEGREE. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, CAN RESPECT EACH OTHER JURISDICTION AND CAN OBVIOUSLY WORK TOGETHER ON THOSE ISSUES. BUT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, IF A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION HOLDS A MEETING, [06:25:03] LET'S TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, A MEETING THAT IS OPEN TO TH PUBLIC. THERE'S NOTHING UNDER THE LAW AT THE CLOSE. I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION FROM ATTENDING THAT MEETING. THE ONLY THING I WOULD URGE THAT COMMISSION WILL ATTEND THAT IS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT SEEK TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS OF SUNSHINE LAW. SO I BELIEVE THE BEST COURSE ON THIS ISSUE IS TO SEE WHATEVER PRACTICE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION FEEL LIKE THEY WANT TO ADHERE. BUT EVEN IF A MEMBER VIOLATED, THEN THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM UNDER THE LAW. GOT YES. NOW IS ACTUALLY ALSO TO RELEASE THE EMAILS AS WELL. SO THE REQUEST IS FOR THIS COMMISSION TO BE MINDFUL, RESPECTFUL OF THE PERSON WHO IS EMAILING THE REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FROM. AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE. I'M SURE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION FOR RESPONDING APPROPRIATELY FOR TO BE THAT DISTRICT COMMISSIONER. MR. BOLTON, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, NO, YOU DO NOT HAVE CONSENSUS, AT LEAST FROM ME, THAT WE WILL STAY IN EACH OTHER'S LANES ON A DISTRICT LEVEL. I THINK IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STAY IN YOUR LANE, AS FAR AS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO TELL YOU, FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM AT LEAST VICE MAYOR BILL ALAGOAS AND COMMISSIONER FLOCCO IS THAT WE DO NOT WANT YOU IN OUR DISTRICTS, THAT IF YOU HEAR OF AN EVENT, YOU LET US KNOW. IF YOU HEAR OF AN ISSUE IN OUR DISTRICT, YOU LET US SOLVE THAT ISSUE. YOU HAVE SAID THAT YOU'RE NOT AMENABLE TO DO THAT. SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, I'M NOT AMENABLE TO STAYING IN MY LANE. I'LL BE ALL OVER EVERYBODY'S DISTRICT. I'LL BE SENDING OUT MAILERS TO EVERYBODY. AND COMMISSIONER GARLAND IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO SEND HIS MAILERS TO MY DISTRICT AND TO ANYBODY ELSE'S DISTRICT. AND ANYBODY AT ANY POINT CAN RESPOND TO ANY ANY COMMISSIONERS, ANY RESPONSE. SO IF THAT'S HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED, THAT'S HOW I'M GOING TO PROCEED. DALTON, YOU ARE NOT HEARING EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE HEARING. WHAT I SAID IS I HAVE NO WORKING. I HAVE NO CONTROL IF SOMEBODY INVITES ME TO THEIR MEETING. IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO INVITE OTHERS. IT IS THEIR BOARD'S PLACE TO INVITE AND THEY WISH TO INVITE. THAT'S WHAT I SAID, OK? AND I'D LIKE TO AND I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT, BECAUSE IF IF IF YOU'RE INVITED IF YOU'RE INVITED TO A MEETING IN MY IN MY DISTRICT JUST BECAUSE YOU GET INVITED AND I HAD NO I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD JUST GO AND LEAVE ME OUT. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. I REMEMBER HAVING AN EVENT. IT WAS A CONCERT, BUT IT WAS A CONFLICT WITH THE TIME WE WERE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. COMMISSIONER GARLAND CAN REMIND ME ABOUT WHAT EVENT THAT WAS. AND I'D HEARD FROM A RESIDENT THAT YOU, MAYOR, WAS GOING TO A MEETING IN THE PARK. AND I'M LIKE, OH, MY GOODNESS, I CAN'T GO. AND YOU NEVER TOLD ME ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I ASKED COMMISSIONER GARLAND TO GO TO MY DISTRICT ON MY BEHALF, TO GO TO THE MEETING AND HEAR WHAT MY RESIDENTS HAD TO SAY BECAUSE. QUITE FRANKLY, YOU NEVER TOLD ME ABOUT IT, SO I HAD NO FAITH IN YOU COMING BACK TO ME TO TELL ME, HEY, YOU THIS YOU WENT AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. SCENARIO NUMBER TWO, BOTH YOU AND I WERE AT THE BERMUDA CLUB. RIGHT. YOU LEFT EARLY AND YOU SAID, HEY, I WAS I'M GOING TO ANOTHER MEETING. YOU ACTUALLY WENT TO ANOTHER MEETING IN MY DISTRICT THAT I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT. SO SCENARIO NUMBER THREE, IF I'M INVITED TO A MEETING AND THEN YOU SHOW UP IN THE MEETING, RESIDENTS AUTOMATICALLY THINK THAT YOU'RE OUR BOSS. SO WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE MEETING, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE SAYING, OH, YOUR BOSS IS HERE AND YOU'RE MY COLLEAGUE. SO LIKE, WHY ARE YOU GOING TO OUR MEETINGS? SO I JUST I JUST FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DISRESPECTFUL. IT'S DISRESPECTFUL FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A VACCINATION EVENT GOING ON AT KINGS POINT AND YOU NOT TELL THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONER ABOUT IT OR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME SEMBLANCE OF TOGETHERNESS AND WALK IN TOGETHER. AND, YOU KNOW, COME ON, IT'S IT'S LIKE WITH YOU, IT'S JUST LIKE A ROBOT. SO IF IF IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH WITH JUST [06:30:05] LEAVING THINGS AS IT IS THERE. THERE'S NO IMAGINARY LINES. WE CAN GO WHEREVER WE WANT AND WE CAN SOLVE WHATEVER, WHATEVER ISSUE WE WANT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, SO NOT SO OUT. YOU'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE, COMMISSIONER. IT'S NOT MY PLACE IF I KNOW THAT YOU ALREADY INVITED. THERE'S NO NEED FOR ME TO HAVE TO TELL YOU THESE MEETINGS ARE THEN NOTICE PUBLICLY. AND YOU KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER, VICE MAYOR KNEW ABOUT THE EVENT? YOU KNEW ABOUT IT. HE WAS TOLD ABOUT IT. HE WAS THERE. I WASN'T THERE. HE WAS THERE BEFORE I WAS. SO I DIDN'T GET A PHONE CALL FROM HIM. YOU KNOW, IT'S EQUAL OPPORTUNITY HERE. YEAH. SO WITH FEW YEARS AGO, YOU WOULD PROMISED ACTUALLY. FEBRUARY TWENTY NINETEEN, YOU SAID. AT THAT TIME, HE SAID, I WILL LET YOU KNOW EVERY SINGLE TIME THIS ME SO WE CAN GO TO THESE THINGS TOGETHER. I LOVE HOW MY PHONE RANG OR MY EMAILS WERE EVER RECEIVED, BUT THERE WERE MEETINGS AND NOT TO BE IN HALLWAYS AND YOU DON'T EVEN SAY HELLO. WHY WOULD I WANT YOU TO GO TALK TO ANY OF ANY OF YOUR YOUR COMMISSIONERS YOU DON'T WEAR IN LUNCHROOMS, YOU DON'T EVEN SAY HELLO. LIKE, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? YOU DON'T EVEN GET YOU GOING TO ANSWER OUR TEXTS. IF I SAY HELLO TO YOU, YOU DON'T ANSWER. YOU PRETEND THAT YOU'RE IN THIS CHECK FROM THE OFFICE. COME ON, SHOW ME THE TEXT BECAUSE YOU DON'T REACH OUT TO ME ANYWAY. VICE MAYOR. SO IS THE CONTENT OF HERE BECAUSE YOU WERE CONCERNED AT THIS POINT? I THINK EVERYBODY IS CONFUSED AT THIS POINT. I THINK SO, TOO, BECAUSE THERE WAS CONSENSUS IN THE BEGINNING THAT THERE WOULD BE EVERYBODY RESPONDING TO THEIR OWN COMMISSION DISTRICTS. WITH THOSE THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE SAYING THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT, ONE COMMISSIONER IS NOT I HAVE SHARED THAT ONE. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A DISTRICT COMMISSIONER INVOLVED. I FORWARDED TO THEM OR LET THE PERSON KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THEIR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER. SO THAT WAS THE CONSENSUS FOR THE MOST PART. BUT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PUT IN WRITING, ACCORDING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO THEREFORE, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO DISCUSS ON THIS MATTER. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF RESPECTING EACH OTHER, AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, BANNING YOUR LANE AND BE CONSCIOUS THAT IF YOU'RE A COMMUNITY, THAT IS TO SAY OF RESPECT, THAT. YEAH, THERE IS A LOT MORE RESPECT ON THIS COMMISSION THAT IS A DESIRE GOING FORWARD TO BE MUCH MORE RESPECTFUL OF THE COMMISSION. IT STARTS WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE. YES. THANK YOU, MR. PARK. I THINK IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER, IT'S A MATTER OF RESPECT. I'M GOING TO TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY I WANT TO BE TREATED. AND IF THAT RESPECT IS RETURNED, IT WILL CONTINUE. IF IT'S NOT. WELL, AS COMMISSIONER BOB SAID, I THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. I I HAVE HIGH HOPES THAT ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL RESPECT EACH OTHER AND WE CAN AND WE CAN DO THIS. THAT'S REALLY ALL IT IS. IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. IT REALLY IS PRETTY SIMPLE. SO I KNOW WE CAN'T PUT ANYTHING IN WRITING AND WE CAN'T FORCE ANYONE AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GROWN UPS, SO LET'S KIND OF ACT LIKE IT BECAUSE HERE'S THE REALITY. ANYBODY COMES INTO MY DISTRICT FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW. SURE. AS GOD MADE LITTLE GREEN APPLES AND I'M GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT. AND WHEN I HEAR ABOUT IT AND I DON'T HEAR ABOUT IT FROM YOU ALL, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE ANNOYED. SO LET'S HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER AND TREAT EACH OTHER THE WAY WE WANT TO BE TREATED. THANK YOU. MAKING. SO THERE WAS A SIDE ITEM BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON REGARDING MAILERS OUT TO THE WHOLE CITY. SO THIS IS UNDER THE INITIATIVES, DO WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR A FUTURE MEETING? WE WE DO HAVE AN INITIATIVE POLICY THAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THEN AT THAT MEETING, OR DO YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW SO WE CAN HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE WANT TO HAVE IT? I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE SENDING MAILERS CITYWIDE, TOO. SO, YOU KNOW, THE GO AND WANTS TO SEND MAILERS TO THE WAY HE CAN. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S UP TO IT'S UP TO EACH OF US BECAUSE THE ITEM IS WORTH SOMETHING OUT CITYWIDE. [06:35:02] THEN I'LL SEND IT TO THE RIGHT. IF IT'S WORTH SENDING IT IN MY DISTRICT, I'LL SEND IT IN MY DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. PLAKA. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION? I HEARD I DON'T WANT TO GET IT, BUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE IT TO THE MANAGER? I'M GOING TO NEED TO CHECK WITH STAFF, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S SCHEDULED FOR DISCUSSION AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, YOUR FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. BUT I'LL I'LL VERIFY THAT. THAT'S JUST MY RECOLLECTION. WE HAVEN'T HAD THE AGENDA REVIEW FOR THAT MEETING YET, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS THE SCHEDULE FOR THAT MEETING. OK, THANK YOU. I SUPPOSE PROBABLY HAVE THAT MEETING SOMETIME THIS AFTERNOON, BUT WE'VE HAD THIS MEETING CONTINUE GOING ON THERE. I CAN'T SEE THAT LESS. SO ARE WE DONE WITH THE LEFT? BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS EARLIER AND I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT LIST, TOO, AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNIT TO DO THAT, ACTUALLY. VICE MAYOR, IT'S THE CUSTOMS AND PRACTICE MEMO THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA IN OUR BOOK AND ONLINE. AND THEN THERE WAS A MEMO FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY LAST NIGHT AROUND 10:00 PM THAT HAD MORE BULLET POINTS FOR THE DISCUSSION. AND HE IS STILL AN OPEN DISCUSSION. THE MATTER THAT'S AT HAND RIGHT NOW IS IT'S FIVE O'CLOCK AND WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE A RECESS IN TWENTY EIGHT MINUTES. AND WE DO THIS UNLESS THIS IS ROLLED OVER TO ANOTHER DAY, SO. WAS YOU COMPLETE, I'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT LIST. OK, WELL, WHEN WE GET TO THAT AREA BEFORE THE CONVERSATION IS CLOSED, WE'LL HAVE YOU ADD SOMETHING TO THE LIST. THANK YOU. SO EMAIL TO THE CITY MANAGER AND COPY TO CITY ATTORNEY. IT'S ALL ABOUT DISCUSSIONS FOR CUSTOMS AND PRACTICES, WHICH IS ON THE LIST FOR TODAY. SO IT CAN BE BROUGHT UP TODAY. IT'S PART OF THE SAME TOPIC. BUT AGAIN, THE PROBLEM ISN'T NECESSARILY ADDING ANOTHER THING TO THE LIST. IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH TIME TO HANDLE IT IF THIS IS NOT SO MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM. IT IS. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT CHARGED FOR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS. SOMEBODY IS WISHING TO HAVE THAT REMOVAL. CITY MANAGER, MADAM MAYOR, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE ANYTHING WITH THIS. WE JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR YOU THAT WE DON'T CHARGE THE MAYOR PERMISSION FOR PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS THE EASIEST ONE. I THINK THE CITY OWES ME A REFUND IN. YOU ALREADY PAY FOR THEM TO. YEAH, I'LL SEND AN INVOICE. SO THERE WAS LOOK, I GUESS THIS IS GOING BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE LAST THING THAT I HAVE FOR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES DURING VIRTUAL MEETINGS. THE CITY MANAGER DISCUSSED WITH ME THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FROM THE LAST CITY ATTORNEY DUE TO BE MEETING WAS TO HAVE ANYTHING THAT WAS ON FACEBOOK AND ANYTHING THAT WAS EMAILED, AN ACCESS BILL. CAN WE LEAVE THAT ITEM UNATTENDED? ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ON THAT ITEM? WE'LL JUST LEAVE THE ITEM FOR NOW. THAT'S FINE. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM THAT IS ON HERE. THESE ARE ACTUALLY CODE ITEMS, SO IT'S NOT CUSTOMARY PRACTICE. THESE ARE CODE ITEMS. SO THE REQUESTED PERMISSION TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCE, THE RULE SECTION TWO, THAT TWENTY NINE SI CITY PROVIDED THAT THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH IS REQUIRED TO START A SEVEN P.M. SECOND MEETING MONTH REQUIRED TO START AT NINE THIRTY AM, AND THAT THE MAYOR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THE BEGINNING OF TIM WITH THE REGULATORY COMMISSION MEETINGS WHEN HE OR SHE DEEMS NECESSARY WITH REASONABLE NOTICE THE PUBLIC. SO WE HAD THIS REQUEST PRIOR, JUST PRIOR TO COMING ON WHERE OUR NINE O'CLOCK MEETING, MONDAY MORNING MEETING OR WEDNESDAY MORNIN MEETINGS, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN TODAY TO START AT NINE THIRTY. SO THE NOW THE REQUEST IS TO TIME OF MEETINGS TO BE CHANGED EITHER FIVE P.M. [06:40:04] OR 3:00 P.M. FROM BOTH MEETINGS. YES. AND HAVING THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THIS. SO YOUR HANDS UP. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE COMMISSION MEETING TIMES TO SIX THIRTY P.M. ON THE SAME WEDNESDAY THAT WE CURRENTLY MEET A SECOND, THAT THIS MATTER IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. MR. BOLTON, DOES IT HAVE TO BE SIX THIRTY? CAN WE STAY? CAN WE KEEP SEVEN O'CLOCK ALSO ON? I THINK IT'S. WHAT WHAT? THIS IS THE SECOND AND I'M OK WITH SEVEN O'CLOCK. OK, FOURTH WEDNESDAYS WE I USUALLY GO TO THE HISPANIC VOTE AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I GOT THE BLACK VOTE, YOU KNOW, I GET OFF TO OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEY CAN MOVE AT THE FIRST AND THIRD AT SEVEN P.M. YOU LET ME FINISH THE EFFICIENT GARLAND PLACE. OK, SO WE WE GOT THE BLACK VOTE AND AND WE MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THEM AND SO ON. SO THERE ARE OTHER STANDING OBLIGATIONS THAT I HAVE ON SECOND, ON FIRST AND THIRD WEDNESDAYS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I MADE THOSE OBLIGATIONS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO DO COMMISSION MEETINGS ON A SECOND AND FOURTH WEDNESDAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT IF WE CHANGE THE COMMISSION MEETINGS TO 7:00, BOTH ON THE SECOND AN FOURTH WEDNESDAYS, THAT WOULD BE SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT TO NOT BE ABLE TO GO TO CERTAIN EVENTS THAT ARE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS, ON THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE SECOND MEETING. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS OBLIGATIONS AND I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A MORNING MEETING, ESPECIALLY AT THE RIGHT. SOME OF OUR MEETINGS GO. SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE FIRST ONE TO SIX THIRTY, I'M OK WITH THAT OR KEEP IT AT SEVEN. I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO CHANGE THE SECOND ONE. THANK YOU SO MEDICARE FOR CLARITY, THE MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER GARLAND, WHICH WAS SECONDED BY MY SERVICE. THIS IS A MOTION TO CHANGE THE MEETING FROM SEVEN P.M. TO 30 P.M. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ON THE TABLE. OK. AND ACTUALLY, THAT'S SUBJECT TO CLARIFICATION BECAUSE IT'S JUST A MEANING, IT DOESN'T SAY WHICH MEANING THAT IT IS. IT'S NOT SAYING WHETHER IT IS THE SECOND AND FOURTH MEANINGS TO START A SIX THIRTY PM OR IF WE'RE CHANGING THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH TO BE THE SIX PARTY, MEANING AT SEVEN. SO. YOU MADE THE MENTION, I MADE THE MOTION, AND SO. I THINK BOTH MEETINGS SHOULD BE IN THE EVENING. THIS IS NOT ABOUT US, IT'S ABOUT THE RESIDENTS AND WE NOW HAVE A CHANGING COMMUNITY WHERE IT'S NOT A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY. THERE'S MORE PEOPLE WORKING. THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT ATTEND COMMISSION MEETINGS OVERALL, FEWER MR. GAGNON. THIS IS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAD TO MAKE MY CASE. BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE YOUR CASE. YOU MAY OR YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T. ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE THE CLARIFICATION. WHEN I MADE THE MOTION, I TRIED TO CLARIFY. YOU COULD JUST SAY YOU WERE LOOKING FOR BOTH OF THEM TO BE NIGHT MEETINGS BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE PERSON HAD THE FLOOR AS VICE MAYOR. IT'S COMMISSIONER CLARK THAT WAS DONE BY THE CITY CLERK AT A CLARIFICATION POINT IS THE MAIN. ALL RIGHT, I SWEAR, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN I SECOND THAT IT WAS TO [06:45:04] CHANGE THE SECOND MEETING, THE TIME AND DATE DAY FROM MONDAY TO WEDNESDAY, ASX 30, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE SECONDING OF BY VICE MAYOR. WE DON'T HAVE COMMISSION MEETINGS ON MONDAYS. IT'S THE SECOND WEDNESDAY. IT IS AT SEVEN P.M. AND I'M SURE FROM THE MORNING TO BOTH MEETINGS, BOTH MEETINGS TO 630. I'M SORRY. SO YOU ARE SECOND AND YOU ARE FINE WITH SECOND BEING COMMISSIONER, GALAN'S MOTION TO MOVE HAVE ALL COMMISSION MEETINGS, BOTH THE SECOND AND FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT SIX THIRTY PM IS WHAT YOU EXPECT FROM CITY CLERK, I BELIEVE NOW HAS THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YEAH, WOULD WE BE AMENABLE TO HAVING THE. 7:00 P.M. MEETING REMAIN AS IS, BUT THE 930 A.M. MEETING TO ROMANIES IS AS WELL. BUT THE NINE 30 MEETING WOULD ALWAYS BE VIRTUAL. WHETHER WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC, IS THAT IS THAT LEGAL, EVEN IF WE GIVE THE PUBLIC THE RIGHT TO ACCESS? WE'RE GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE, NO MATTER. OK, I HAVE RESPECT TO THE REQUIREMENT VIRTUAL MEETINGS, THIS WE OPERATE UNDER EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AT THIS POINT, THE GOVERNOR OFFICE HAS BASICALLY RESCINDED ITS EMERGENCY ORDER LANE TO ALLOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO OPERATE VIRTUALLY. NEVERTHELESS, WE PASSED THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE, WHICH WHICH CANNOT BE IN PERPETUITY. SO EVENTUALLY WHEN AND THEN THE EMERGENCY RESOLVE ITSELF COMMISSION BUILDING, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE MEETINGS AND BASICALLY IN PERSON, WHICH THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED WITH APPROPRIATE NOTICE. SO WE ARE OPERATING UNDER EMERGENCY ORDERS. ALLOW THIS VERSION. SOONER OR LATER WE WILL HAVE TO OPERATE LIKE WE DID BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. OK, DO WE NEED TWO MEETINGS? HERE'S THE ISSUE, YOUR CHART AT THIS TIME, WHICH IS SECTION SIX, THE CHART OF SECTION FOUR POINT ZERO FOUR, BASICALLY, WHICH IS NOT PERMISSIVE, AND I READ THE LANGUAGE TO SAY THE COMMISSION SHALL MEET REGULARLY. WELL, AT LEAST TWICE A MONTH. I MEAN, I SAY AT LEAST SO TWICE A MONTH. AND SO I WOULD READ THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO WEEKS THAT COULD WE THOUGHT, OK, TWICE PER MONTH, I GET IT. SO THEN THIS MESS, THIS. SO THEN COULD WORKSHOPS BE CONSIDERED AS A MEETING? YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE WORD REGULARLY IS USED IN THIS TRIAL. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOUR ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I WILL OBVIOUSLY WANT TO AT LEAST DISCUSS THIS MATTER. WAS IT, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL COMMITTEE, SPECIAL COMMISSIONS, WHICH CAN BE AS WELL. YOU CAN VOTE A WORKSHOP. GENERALLY, YOU CANNOT VOTE AT A WORKSHOP UNDER THE LAW. SO I DON'T I WILL NOT CONCLUDE LEGALLY THAT A WORKSHOP IS CONSTITUTED A REGULAR COMMISSION. OK, OK. CAN WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER? THANK YOU FOR RETURNING THE MANAGER. FROM A STAFF POINT OF VIEW, COULD WE PROBABLY HAVE TWO MEETINGS MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY ON IN THE SAME WEEK REGULAR MEETINGS. WELL, I MEAN, THE ANSWER IS YES, COMMISSIONER, WE CERTAINLY COULD HAVE TWO REGULAR MEETINGS IN THE SAME WAY I. I MEAN, YEAH, WE HAVE MEETINGS, WE HAVE MEETINGS SPACED APART THE WAY THEY ARE FOR THE REGULAR FLOW OF BUSINESS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU WANT TO MEET AND WE'LL ADJUST THE FLOW OF [06:50:02] BUSINESS TO SUIT YOUR MEETING SCHEDULED TO GO IN THE PRESIDENT, I'M NOT TURNED OVER TO TALK TO YOU. JUST A QUESTION THROUGH THE CHAIR. WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO HAVING TO MAKE TWO MEETINGS IN THE SAME WEEK TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT OF THE CHARTER TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS PER MONTH THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE FOURTH WEEK OR WHATEVER TO BE FREE INSTEAD OF HAVING A MEETING? NO, BUT I'M OPEN TO CHANGING THE DATES. SO MAYBE WE DON'T MEET ON A WEDNESDAY MEETING ON TUESDAY OR THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, BUT WE JUST MEET IN THE EVENINGS AND OF THE DAYTIME. I'M WORKING PROFESSIONAL. ELLMAN'S THE WORKING PROFESSIONAL. I'VE MISSED SOME TIME DURING THE MEETING TODAY TRYING TO RESPOND TO SOME CLIENTS AND GET ON CALLS. AND WE HAVE A WORKING POPULATION NOW THAT WOULD LIKELY PREFER TO ATTEND COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN THE EVENING. ON TOP OF THAT, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT SOMETIMES I CAN POINT TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA IN THE DAYTIME TO KEEP IT FROM KEEP PEOPLE FROM ATTENDING THE MEETINGS SO WE CAN AVOID THAT, TOO. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. MR. BOLTON AND I DID WORK THAT. I DID NOT ATTEND THE PLURAL. OK, I MEAN, THE GARLAND, IF YOUR IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT DRIVEN BUT NOT COMMISSIONS WITHIN, THEN YOUR SCHEDULE DOES NOT MATTER. AND AND YOUR OTHER OBLIGATIONS AND WE DO HAVE STILL HAVE AN ELDERLY POPULATION THAT WE CANNOT DISCOUNT. WE HAVE PEOPLE IN PLACE OF CARRIAGE HILL'S MAYLANDS. THAT'S THE STUFF THAT I ALWAYS SAY TO ME, I'M GLAD YOU'RE HOME. THAT ALWAYS SAYS TO ME, LIKE, HEY, I'M GLAD WE HAVE A MEETING IN THE MORNING BECAUSE I CAN'T COME OUT AT NIGHT OR I DON'T DRIVE AT NIGHT. I CAN'T SEE WELL AT NIGHT. SO I'D LOVE TO COME TO A MORNING MEETING. SO I GUESS WE HAVE MORNING MEETINGS AND EVENING MEETINGS BECAUSE WE WE HAVE A WORKING POPULATION AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ELDERLY POPULATION. HAVE YOU TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION OR. I'M JUST ASKING YOU A QUESTION. I HAVE MOST CITIES DO HAVE AN ELDERLY POPULATION, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY THE ONLY CITY IN BROWARD COUNTY THAT HAS A MORNING MEETING. AND WE CAN DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO GET THE FACTS. I'VE GONE TO MOST COMMISSION MEETINGS IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF BROWARD COUNTY. JUST ABOUT EVERYONE HAS TO COMMISSION MEETINGS IN THE EVENING, NOT IN THE DAYTIME. MOST SENATORS SECOND ON THE FLOOR. CAN WE MOVE FORWARD? I KNOW, SO THERE'S THERE'S A DISCUSSION, THERE'S A DISCUSSION STILL AND I STILL HAVE MY OPINIONS TO SHARE AS WELL. SO WHEN YOU'RE DONE. OK, SO I JUST. TONY, CAN WE IF WE CHANGE THE MEETING TIMES NOW, LET'S SAY SIX MONTHS, WE WANT TO CHANGE IT BACK. WE CAN. WE CAN CHANGE THAT ANY TIME, CORRECT? MAJORITY VOTE, CORRECT? YES, AND TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH FLEXIBILITY, YOU CAN BECAUSE BECAUSE ONLY CHARTER REQUIREMENT IS OBVIOUSLY TH TWICE MONTHLY MEETING. BUT YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU CAN BASICALLY DELETE THE TIME IN THE AUDIENCE IN AND PAST YOUR MEETING TIMES AND A RESOLUTION THAT IF YOU WANT TO REVERSE THE DECISION A RESOLUTION DOES NOT REQUIRE TO READ, IT CAN BE REVERSE QUICKLY. SO YOU CAN HAVE ULTIMATE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF CHANGING THE TIME OF BEING CAN WE CAN WE IF WE CHANGE THE MEETING TIME TONIGHT, CAN WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE SUNSET IN SIX MONTHS WHEN THE COMMISSION DISCRETION OF NOW, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE CODE. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF YOU VOTE TO CHANGE IT TONIGHT AND THEN I WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE CODE AND THE SUBSEQUENT ROYAL COMMISSION CAN DO CAN WE HAVE RESOLUTION TO SUNSET. [06:55:04] YES, SOME CONCLUDES THAT THIS ONE PROVISION IN THE RESOLUTION THAT THE RESOLUTION WOULD SUNSET AT WHATEVER DATE THAT THE COMMISSION DISSOLVED BECAUSE I MEAN, DURING DURING THE PANDEMIC, NOBODY IS COMING OUT ANYWAY. RIGHT. AND I AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE PANDEMIC IS GOING TO LAST FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. SO SO I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE MAYOR TO TO DISCUSS THE I GUESS. WELL, LET ME ASK GOSH, I'M AFRAID I'M GOING TO ASK PERMISSION TO GO IN AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT'S A FULL TIME COMMISSIONER. GARLAND, WHAT WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO DELETING THE TIME FROM THE FROM THE CODE, PUT IT IN A RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN QUICKLY CHANGE THE RESOLUTION, BUT HAVE THE RESOLUTION SUNSET AT THE END OF THIS YEAR SO WE CAN REEVALUATE IT AS A COMMISSION AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WOULD HAVE SEVEN MEETINGS FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT. NEXT YEAR, WE COULD GO BACK. I'M OPEN TO THAT AND I'M HOPING IT REMAINS PERMANENT, BUT YEAH, I'M OPEN TO THAT. I'LL ALSO COMMISSION BOLTON AND SEE A CLOAK OF TIME IN ZONING MATTERS UNDER THE LAW GENERALLY IS REQUIRED TO BE AFTER 5:00 P.M. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WITH VICE MAY BE IN THE NEW COMMISSION THAT ANY ZONING, OBVIOUSLY SPECIAL EXCEPTION. SO ONLY THERE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC OBVIOUSLY UP TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS ARE GENERALLY REQUIRED TO BE ASKED TO FOLLOW THE LAW. THAT'S A LOT. OK, YEAH, THAT IS THAT IS TO COMMISSIONER GARLAND POINT. ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS I'LL HEAR FROM THE MAYOR AND THEN AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME AT GARLAND IS AMENABLE TO AMENDING HIS MOTION TO DELETE THE TIME FROM THE FROM THE CODE, MOVING THE TIME TO A RESOLUTION AND ACCEPTING THE RESOLUTION TO THE END OF THE YEAR. I GUESS THAT JUST GIVES EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY WANT IT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SUPPORT. SO GO AHEAD. I GUESS I'M DONE FOR NOW. MR. GARLAND, YOUR HAND WAS RAISED AS IT LOWERED. SO BASICALLY, THERE'S BEEN MANY REASONS FOR WHY WE HAVE THE STAGGERED NINE, 30 OR THE MORNING AND THEY ACT IN THE EVENING TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ALIKE TO BE ABLE TO COME TO MEETINGS BECAUSE REMEMBER, BUSINESSES COME TO OUR MEETINGS, TOO, AND THEY WORK FULL TIME DURING THE DAY AS WELL. ALSO IS OUR STAFF TO COME TO MEETINGS AND PREPARE FOR MEETINGS. SO THAT ALSO REQUIRES MORE NIGHTTIME SERVICES OUT OF OUR CITY STAFF. AND YES, I KNOW SOME OF YOU WERE GOING TO SAY, BUT I'M JUST SHARING THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS MY CONCERN ABOUT MOVING THE MEETINGS. THERE WAS ONE PART WHERE I SAID MOVE IT TO THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OR THE THIRD WEDNESDAY WHEN WE CHANGE THE ACTUAL DATE OF THE MEETING OF THE WEEK OF THE MEETING. I BELIEVE THAT WILL COMPLETELY SCREW UP THE FLOW OF THE CITY. WE CAN'T JUST UNILATERALLY DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION DETERMINE WE HAVE YOUR URGENCY. WE HAVE VERY FEW PROVINCES THAT AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO DO THEIR AGENDA REVIEW AND THE MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE ARE BASED ON WHEN WE HAVE OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS AND FOR THE TIMING AND PURPOSES OF GETTING THE FLO OF OUR CITY AND OUR MEETINGS TO BE CONDUCTED. SO I WOULD NOT SUPPORT MOVING IT FROM THE SECOND AND FOURTH WEEK OF THE MONTH I HAVE. WE EVENTUALLY WILL BE GOING BACK POTENTIALLY TO WORKSHOPS AGAIN ON WHICH ARE RESERVED IN OUR CITY FOR THE FIRST ONES, THE SECOND AND FOURTH ONE DAY THE MONTH. I SEE COMMISSIONER GARLAND SHAKING YOUR HEAD. NO, BUT PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE TWO MEETINGS, WE WIND UP HAVING OUR WEDNESDAY MEETINGS. SO THEN EVERYBODY IS COMPLAINING THAT WE'RE HERE FOR TOO LONG. WHILE THIS IS OUR JOB, PEOPLE, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE TIME AND ENERGY IN. AND IF YOU LIKE TO SAY HOW MUCH POLICY YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AND HOW MUCH RESOLUTION YOU'RE DOING AND ALL THIS KIND OF GOOD STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE [07:00:02] CITY, THEN OUR REQUIREMENT IS TO BE HERE. YOU'RE NOT ALONE IN BEING A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. YOU WON'T BE ALL DAY. THIS IS BASICALLY WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THIS. THIS IS OUR JOB. AND SOME OF US ARE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE NOT HAD TO LOOK AT IT. AND THEY ARE DOING THEIR BUSINESS OF THE CITY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR. AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOME OF IT, THEN MAYBE AS A COURTESY PEOPLE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT LESS DURING THE MEETINGS. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF KEEPING THE MEETINGS AT THE TIME, WHICH THEY ARE. I DO THINK MOVING IT TO SIX THIRTY THAT REALLY MUST BE DONE, I THINK WILL CAUSE SOME ISSUE. BUT THAT IS STILL FINE. I'VE GOT TO LET PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO COME FROM THEIR OTHER JOBS TO COME TO OUR MEETINGS, BE ABLE TO GET ON TRUSTEE DINNER IF THEY WISH TO HAVE IT FROM THERE FOR THE RIGHT. NOW, I DO NOT SUPPORT WHAT IS ON. THE WELL, I THINK IT'S BEEN CHANGED, BUT TO MAKE IT GO TO TWO, TWO, SEVEN A MONTH AND FINALLY NINE THREE IN THE SEVEN. THAT'S MY OPINION. THAT'S RIGHT, I GAVE IT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT, IN LISTENING TO WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON WAS SAYING, I BELIEVE AND I COULD BE WAY OFF BASE, THAT WE WILL BE DOING VIRTUAL MEETINGS FOR A MINIMUM OF THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, I BELIEVE PROBABLY THE REST OF THE YEAR WITH NO WAY TO KNOW, BUT AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. SO IF WE'RE DOING VIRTUAL MEETINGS NOW, WHY NOT LEAVE THE SCHEDULE THE WAY IT IS NOW AND IN SIX MONTHS RE RE EVALUATE IT. AND THEN IF WE FEEL THE NEED TO CHANGE IT TO TWO NIGHT MEETINGS, BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE DOING IT VIRTUALLY NOW ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, REALLY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE. SO THAT WOULD BE A SUGGESTION AT THIS TIME, GOING TO THE MEETING FOR 10 MINUTES TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE THE RESTROOM AND FOR US TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE AND MAKE A RECESS. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, MAYBE I JUST WANT TO ADJOURN BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO THE SENATE VOTE TONIGHT IN FIV TWENTY SIX P.M. WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT FIVE THIRTY SIX P.M.. THANK YOU. WE'RE IN RECESS. THE GENTLEMAN IS FIVE THIRTY SIX WERE BACK ON THE RECORD, WE PLEASE CALL THE WHOLE. FROM THAT, WE'RE PRESENT. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YES, THANK YOU, MR. GARLAND HERE. MY FAMILY WILL TO MAKE YOUR PLECO HERE AND THEIR GOMA'S HERE. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, I SEE VERY LITTLE OF US AS AN ATTENDANT ATTENDANCE, I JUST DIDN'T HEAR FROM HIM COMING. THINK I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY WHO IS NOT SPEAKING LIKE YOUR MICROPHONES. I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY, WANTING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT. SO THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW MOVING TO. SO THE ATTORNEY NOT JUST FOR RECORD PURPOSES, IT WAS A MOTION AND CIRCUIT CITY CLERK CAN AT LEAST SET THE RECORD SO WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE. OK, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER GARLAND WAS WHERE. WE WERE FOR COMMENTS, HE WAS AN NEXT ON. YEAH, I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO CORRECT THE RECORD. MY MOTION WAS NOT TO CHANGE THE DATE, BUT JUST TO CHANGE THE TIME. SO I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO TO THE CHANGES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON. SO WE'RE ONLY CHANGING THE TIME FROM THE MORNING TO THE EVENING, BOTH COMMISSION MEETINGS. AND IT WILL WHAT'S THE TERM HE USED ON SUNSET AT THE END OF THE YEAR? SO I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION, AND THAT'S MY MOTION CITY CLERK WE'VE PLACED WITH. AFTER I MET HIM, I HAVE TO CLARIFY SOMETHING IN THE MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND ME. THAT'S WHY I WAS THE MASTER, THE CITY CLERK TO DO SO, BUT. WE HEAR HOW SHE HAS BEEN AND WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT. [07:05:02] LET'S SEE IF SHE HEARS IT AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. I'M NOT SO SURE, MADAM MAYOR, IF COMMISSIONER GARLAND IS ACCEPTING COMMISSIONER BOLTON'S COMMENTS, IT WOULD BE DELETING THE TIME FROM THE CODE, ADOPTING A RESOLUTION FOR BOTH MEETINGS TO BEGIN AT SIX THIRTY, AND THAT THE RESOLUTION WILL SUNSET AT THE END OF THE YEAR. SIX THIRTY PM, BY THE WAY, SEVEN SEVEN P.M.. SEVEN P.M., YES, OK. MR. BOLTON, YEAH, YES, COMING FROM THE GARLAND WAS SAYING TO THE CHANGE, THE MEETING AND THE CHANGE, THE MEETING TIME AND THE CODE, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DELETING THE MEETING TIME AND THE CODE ALTOGETHER. SO I THINK THE CITY CLERK SAID IT CORRECTLY. SO WE'RE DELETING THE MEETING TIME OF THE CODE ALTOGETHER AND WE'RE PUTTING IT IN A RESOLUTION SO THAT THE RESOLUTION CAN BE CHANGED ON A WHIM AND THAT THE RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION HAS TO SUNSET. WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK FOR A VOTE ON THE FIRST MEETING OF DECEMBER, WHICH WOULD BE THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR, IT TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION ON THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR IN DECEMBER. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BOLTON. VICE MAYOR DE SECOND, THE AMENDED. I DO. I HAVE A QUESTION NOW. WHAT HAPPENS THAT WE HAPPEN TO FORGET THAT THIS THING SUNSET'S WE CHANGE VERY QUICKLY, FORGETTING THAT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF OURS. AND WE WILL HAVE TO SAY, YES, I DO. SECOND, THAT MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER GARLAND. IN OTHER. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WAS JUST YOUR HAND, MS. MILLION DONE. NO FURTHER COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER. SO PLEASE CALL THE COMMISSIONER BOTH AND YES, MR. GARLAND. YEAH, THANKS, MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO KNOW. THE MOTION PASSES THREE TO TWO. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW UP TO BE ON THIS LIST OF THE MEMO FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY TIME PERMIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. THIS IS ALSO A CODE ITEM. THIS IS NOT CUSTOMARY PRACTICE. THIS IS CODE RULE SECTION TWO, DASH TWENTY NINE D OF THE CITY CODE PROVIDES MAYOR OR PRESIDING OFFICER WITH THE AUTHORITY TO LIMIT THE TIME ALLOTTED FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON ANY MATTER BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION. THIS SECTION FURTHER PROVIDES THE MAYOR OR PRESIDING OFFICER TO LIMIT PUBLIC COMMENT TO ONLY THE TOPIC BEING DISCUSSED AND ONCE THE TOPIC IS LISTED AS A TOPIC ON THE AGENDA. ADDITIONALLY, THE SECTION PROVIDES FOR THE MAYOR PRESIDING OFFICER TO REQUEST REMOVAL OF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO FAILS TO FOLLOW PUBLIC DISCUSSION RULES. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS THE CITY COMMISSION, AS A BODY, HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO LIMIT THE TIME FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION TO REMOVE ANYON WHO FAILS TO FOLLOW THE RULES. CITY ATTORNEY. IF I READ OUR RULES CORRECTLY, DOESN'T ANY. TWO POINT FIVE G LITTLE, I BASICALLY PAID SEVEN OF 11 OF THE BACK OF OUR HAND ALREADY GIVES THE AUTHORITY TO ANY OTHER PERSON ON THE COMMISSION TO ASK FOR. THE WAY TO LIMIT THE TO FAIL TO REMOVE ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT FOLLOW THE RULES WAS SEARCHING YOU FOR JUST ONE LITTLE SECTION. IT IS SECTION TWO, DOES THIRTY FOUR. SORRY, IS ACTUALLY NOT BECAUSE I. IT'S ON PAGE SIX, SEVEN OF 11 AND THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US. TWO GUYS FOR I GUESS IN THE EVENT THAT THE MAYOR PRESIDING OFFICER FAILS TO ACT, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION MAY MOVE TO REQUIRE THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO ACT TO ENFORCE THE RULES. THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT AT THE TIME SHALL REQUIRE THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO ACT. SO THEREFORE, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY BEING DISRUPTIVE THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE, IF THAT'S WHAT THIS REQUEST IS, THAT IS BEING ASKED OF THE COMMISSION TO CHANGE. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT PROVISION, YOU KNOW, ALSO ALLOWS THE COMMISSION AS A [07:10:01] BODY TO REMOVE ANY ONE. WHAT WAS THE REQUEST WAS MORE TO TO ANY DECISION IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SPEAKING, WITH RESPECT TO TIME, ALL MOVIL THAT THE PROVISION OF THIS RULES NEED TO BE BY A VOTE A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, NOT BY THE MAYOR ONLY. SO IF IF, IF, IF THE PROVISION THAT I'VE CITED IN MY MEMO IS READ THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION NEED TO CONSENT TO REMOVAL OR CONSENT TO INCREASE THIS TIME, THEN I WOULD AGREE, IS THE SAME PROVISION. BUT I THINK THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE. LANGUAGE IS NOT IDENTICAL. OK, SO THE ISSUE IS WHETHER THE DECISION CAN BE MADE BY THE MAYOR OR THE PRESIDING OFFICER. IT COULD BE A VICE MAYOR VERSUS THE COMMISSION AS A BODY. AND THAT'S REALLY THE DISCUSSION. OK, MICHIGAN. YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. AND SO I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LANGUAGE, AS IN WHETHER CITY COMMISSION AS A BODY, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO LIMIT THE TIME FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION OR REMOVE ANYONE WHO FAILS TO FOLLOW THE RULES. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. LIKE THIS ONE, IS THIS A BIFURCATES ITEM, THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT HAS TO DO WITH TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I'M DEALING WITH JUST RULE TWO, DASH 29, WHICH IS A LONG TRIAL, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE RULE THAT YOU CITED. ONE SECOND. ARE WE FOLLOWING THE MEMORANDUM THAT THE ATTORNEY SENT OR ARE WE FOLLOWING THE BACKUP AT THIS POINT, FOLLOWING THE MEMORANDUM, THE MEMORANDUM? OK, AND WE'RE AWARE THAT NO ONE ONE EIGHT ONE, NO ONE BE OK WITH JUST ONE ALREADY. OK, WE DID ONE TODAY FOR THE TIME OF THE MEETING AND THEN WE'RE ON OUT. YES. GARLAND MADE A MOTION WHAT WAS A MOTION TO ADOPT THE LANGUAGE IN THE MEMO AS WRITTEN AS A MOTION. TRYING TO MOVE THE MEETING ALONG. ARE YOU GOING TO CALL FOR THE ROMAN GOMEZ? I DID, BUT IT APPEARS THAT I WAS ON MUTE, SO I WILL TRY IT AGAIN. THE PART IS THAT THERE'S NO PLACE CALLED THANK YOU AND DECLARED IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT YOU DO. PLEASE BE BACK. YES. COMMISSIONER GARLAND ASKED TO ADOPT APPROVE THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PUT IN A MEMO WHICH SAYS AS WRITTEN, WHICH SAYS THE CITY COMMISSION AS A BODY WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO LIMIT THE TIME FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION OR REMOVE ANYONE WHO FAILS TO FOLLOW THE RULES. OK, AND IT'S THE CITY COMMISSION AS A BODY, NOT THE MAYOR, CORRECT? OK, AND THE CITY COMMISSION AS A BODY INCLUDES THE MAYOR. CORRECT. WHICH MEANS I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO STILL DO IT. AND SO DOES THIS COMMISSION NOT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MAJORITY? YEAH, ALL CITIZENS OF BOTH. HELLO, WELCOME. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. GARLAND. YES, THANKS, MERRYVILLE LEVELS. YES, MR. PLECO, YES. MR. BOLTON, YES, AND THEY'RE GOING MS. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, FIVE ZERO. I BELIEVE WE COVERED THE APPOINTMENT OF BOARD MEMBERS. YES, I HAVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [07:15:03] WE ARE NOW UP TO LEGISLATIVE AIDES, SECTION TWO DASH THIRTY TWO OF THE CITY CODE. AND IT SAYS CUSTOM PRACTICES, CITY MANAGERS DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT THE RULE IS ACTUALLY THREE DEATHS. THIRTY TWO OF THE CITY CODE PROVIDES THAT ANY COMMISSIONER IS ENTITLED TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF THREE UNCAGED LEGISLATIVE AIDES, IS REQUIRED TO BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION. AIDES MAY NOT BE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. THE PROPOSAL REQUESTS THAT ANY CITY COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE THREE PAID LEGISLATIVE AIDES, WHICH MAY INCLUDE COLLEGE INTERNS PROVIDING RESIDENCE, HIRING OF RESIDENTS THAT SHOULD BE PROVIDED. AGAIN, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. IT DEALS WITH BUDGETING AND THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE RECEIVED OUR LIAISON'S AND ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AT THE TIME. GO ON YOUR HANDS RAISED YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS THE PROPOSED ITEM AS WRITTEN ON THE MEMO. SECOND. MISHAWAKA. GO AHEAD. OH, THANK YOU. HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY THESE PEOPLE YOU SAY BUDGETED? THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. I THINK WE'LL DISCUSS THAT. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE RIGHT TO CHANGE HIS LANGUAGE. KIND OF LIKE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. IT SAYS THE LANGUAGE WILL SAY MEH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SURE. SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF COMMISSION DON'T WANT IT, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO LEGISLATE IT. SO IS A MAYLANDS IS NOT A SHOW. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT MY CONCERN IS, AS FAR AS I KNOW AT THIS POINT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING BUDGETED FOR A LEGISLATIVE AIDES. SO MY CONCERN IS. PRIOR TO THE BUDGETING CYCLE, WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND HIRE THESE THREE PEOPLE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT HIRING LEGISLATIVE AIDES. WE'RE NOT ASKING TO HIRE LEGISLATIVE AIDES. WE'RE ASKING THE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE CHANGED SO THAT IF WE DO, WE KNOW THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IT IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. SO THIS IS JUST A LANGUAGE CHANGE. OK, NOT OK FOR CONVERSATION DURING THE BUDGET. OK, RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE WAY WE SPEND OUR DOLLARS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY GOING FROM SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS TO 11 MILLION DOLLARS. AND COLONIE WAS THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THAT MONEY CAN COME FROM BY US BEING MORE EFFICIENT AS WELL, THAT WE REALLY DON'T NEED YOU TO ARGUE ALL THESE POINTS. WE ALREADY KNOW YOUR OPINION. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE MOTIONS WE PUT UP WITH OTHER PEOPLE. BUT WHEN WE SHOULD JUST VOTE, I, COMMISSIONER GARLAND OTHER PEOPLE WISH TO SPEAK. SO THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. LORENZO CALHOON, OUR DIRECTOR OF RESOURCES. LISA. THERE YOU GO. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. MR. VICE MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, LORENZO COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR. MADAME MAYOR, IF I CAN GET A CHAIR TO COMMISSIONER GARLAND POINT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO ENTERTAIN THIS, MAY I RECOMMEND A FRIENDLY SMALL AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE LEGISLATIVE AID DESIGNATION OR TITLE TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON AS WE HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON, BUT NOT THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, DR. GARLAND. YES, I'M GOOD WITH THE LANGUAGE AS IT IS, HOWEVER WE CAN WE CAN SAY LEGISLATIVE AIDES ARE ALSO KNOWN AS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISONS, BECAUSE IF IT'S FOR MY OWN MIND, I WANT TO IN THE FUTURE HAVE SOME COLLEGE STUDENTS. THAT'S THE STUFF I COULD CALL ONE OF THEM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON. I CAN CALL ONE OF THEM LEGISLATIVE AIDE AND CALL THEM WHATEVER I WANT. SO I'D BE AMENABLE TO THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE. BUT SOMEWHERE THERE JUST ADD. LEGISLATIVE AIDES MAY ALSO BE REFERRED TO AS COMMUNITY LIAISONS. THAT'S IT. YOU, MR. BOLTON IN MICHIGAN. YOU KNOW, I PREFER THE TITLE LEGISLATIVE AIDE I REFERENCE, I REFER TO MY [07:20:05] COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON AS MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE WHEN I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY. AND SO IF THE LANGUAGE CAN SAY LEGISLATIVE AIDE OR ENGAGEMENT LEADER OR IF THE JOB DESCRIPTION OF THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE WILL MATCH THAT OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON, THEN I'M OK WITH AMENDING THE LANGUAGE AS LONG AS WE CAN USE BOTH TERMS. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY, I THINK THAT THROUGH THE CHAIR, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN JUST DO THAT WHEN HE'S TRUSTEE I'M OKAY WITH. I MIGHT NEED YOU TO REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID, THOUGH, BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE ALREADY HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES, THEN THEY HAVE A SET FINANCIAL STRUCTURE. IT DOES NOT HAVE IT DOES NOT CALL FOR COLLEGE CREDITS OR COLLEGE. AND. ABILITY TO SIGN UP FOR COLLEGE CREDIT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, BUT I KNEW THE INTERN LANGUAGE THAT MADE ME WANTING TO BE PUT IN THEIR. MR. CALHOON. I'M SORRY, MADAM COMMISSIONER, BOLTON WANTS TO GO FIRST. HE, BY ALL MEANS CAN I JUST WANTED TO. DO YOU WANT TO START? YEAH, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION SO I CAN ASK YOU THE QUESTION THROUGH THE CHAIR AND THEN YOU CAN SEGUE INTO WHATEVER WE YOU WANTED TO SAY, IF THAT'S OK. SO COULD WE COULD WE ALSO JUST KEEP THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE THAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND HAD, BUT PUT THE GIVE THE SAME JOB DESCRIPTION AS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON, THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE. SO ESSENTIALLY, THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME JOB DESCRIPTION YOU JUST COPY AND PASTING FROM ONE POSITION. THE OTHER POSITION, FOR INSTANCE, THE CITY MANAGER HAS HOW MANY OFFICE ASSISTANTS? LIKE THREE. SO, I MEAN, SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE LIKE DIFFERENT JOB DESCRIPTIONS, BUT AT SOME POINT THOSE JOB DESCRIPTIONS MEET. SO YOU CAN ALWAYS COPY AND PASTE THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND TWEAK IT A LITTLE BIT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT AND COMES. IF THIS WILL HELP COMMISSIONER BOLTON AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I CAN WORK WITH MY STAFF TO AMEND THAT TITLE COMMUNICATION LIAISON TO A LEGISLATIVE AIDE IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION FIRST AND FOREMOST. MAY I RESPOND TO YOU? YES. SO WE DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE POSITIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON BECAUSE THE LEGISLATIVE AIDES COME UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON COME UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO JUST LEAVE US ALONE AND LET US CHANGE THE LANGUAGE FOR NOW. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. SO BASICALLY, THIS IS PUTTING THE DATA THROUGH THE BACK DOOR OF WHAT WAS NOT ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WHERE THE CITY COMMISSION DOES NOT HIRE PEOPLE, WE DO NOT PAY FOR PEOPLE. SO WHICH IS WHY IT WAS BEING PROPOSED TO DO IT AS SUCH THROUGH THE LIAISON'S, BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER WHO HIRES CITY COMMISSION DOES NOT HIRE. AND IT'S ALSO IN SOME WAYS SAYING, OH, WELL, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CHANGE LANGUAGE NOW AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT THE BUDGET, KNOWING VERY WELL THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING A FULL DISCUSSION ON IT RIGHT NOW. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN DURING THE BUDGET, IT'S GOING TO BE EXPECTED TO HAVE MY THREE PAY UP TO THREE PAID LIAISON'S FOUR OR AIDE FOR FIVE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMISSION, WHICH IS 50 MORE PEOPLE ON THE PAYROLL FOR THE CITY OF TAMARAC WHEN WE HAVE DISCUSSED HIRING FREEZES AND THE LIKE. SO. THAT IS MY TWO CENTS A GALLON. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK OUR H.R. DIRECTOR FOR HIS SENSE OF HUMOR. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY GO IT'S LIKE SOMETIMES YOU PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN YOU ARE BOTHERED BY THE BUDGET AND WHEN YOU'RE NOT. SO WHEN IT COMES TO PROVIDING THE CITY MANAGER WITH A THREE PERCENT RAISE EVERY YEAR AND A THREE PERCENT BONUS WITH NO EVALUATION, YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES TO BRINGING IN A SPEAKER FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH AT A VERY MINIMUM COST. YOU SAY NO, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO COST OVERRUNS FOR A MISMANAGED PROJECT, YOU [07:25:03] HAVE NO PROBLEM SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THIS COMMISSION. YES OR NO. YES OR NO. SO THIS IS A LANGUAGE CHANGE. NO ONE'S ASKING FOR ANYTHING. THE BUDGET THIS IS LANGUAGE CHANGE. THEN YOU REFER YOU TALK ABOUT SOME BACK DOOR. THERE WAS A DIFFERENT COMMISSION WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BANGAR PERIOD. SO COMMISSION THAT BOTH. AND I WANTED THIS THE LAST TIME AND THE MAJORITY DID NOT WANT IT. SO NOW THE MAJORITY MAY WANT THIS AND THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE. EVERYONE MAY NOT HAVE THREE PEOPLE. WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE ENGAGEMENT LIAISON'S, YOU CLAIM YOU DON'T YOU DON'T WANT ONE. NOW YOU HAVE ONE AND NOBODY KNOWS THAT YOU EVEN HAVE ONE BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER ANNOUNCED. SO YOU'VE GOT ONE IN SECRET AND NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT. AND WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE CITY COMMISSION HAVING 15 PEOPLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO THE RESIDENTS OF TAMARACK? COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS AN ENGAGEMENT LIAISON THAT JUST DOES VIDEO, BUT AT THE TIME HE SAID HE WANTED TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE DOING THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO NOW HE MAY HAVE THAT AND NOW HE MAY HAVE ONE PERSON HAS THE SOCIAL MEDIA GUY, ONE PERSON THAT'S A MAIL GUY. ONE PERSON HAS SOMETHING ELSE. SO OUR GOAL IS TO BE AS RESPONSIVE AS WE CAN TO THE RESIDENTS. SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH US HAVING AS MUCH RESOURCES AS POSSIBLE TO BE RESPONSIVE AND COMMUNICATIVE TO OUR RESIDENTS? WHY DO YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT? WHY DO YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH STAFF GETTING EVERYTHING THEY WANT? AND THE CITY COMMISSION, WHICH REPRESENTS THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ACCOUNTABLE TO GETTING WHAT, MINIMUM WAGE, HOURLY WAGE FOR FOR A PART TIME PAID LEGISLATIVE AIDE AND SOME COLLEGE INTERN SO THEY CAN LEARN HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS FROM THE INSIDE. WHY ARE YOU SO ANTI COMMISSION? I'M NOT AGAINST THE COMMISSION. SO OBVIOUSLY, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE FLOOR, BUT I'M NOT ASKING FOR. NO, YOU ASK ME A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, SO I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO YOU. I SAID YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. SO BASICALLY THE CHARTER SAYS THAT WE CANNOT HIRE. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. THE CHARTER SAYS THE CITY COMMISSION CANNOT HIRE. MY PROBLEM IS THAT THIS COMMISSION TENDS TO FORGET THAT WE AGREE TO FOLLOW THE CHARTER AND THE RULES OF OUR STATE AND OUR CITY. AND THAT'S WHAT MY PROBLEM IS AND THE FACT THAT WE ALSO ARE TRYING TO PASS OFF A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY ELECTED TO D TO OTHER PEOPLE. AND AS FAR AS THIS LEGISLATIVE AIDE, I'M NOT THE ONE TO TWO LEGISLATIVE AIDES. AT THE SAME TIME, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER GARLAND HAD HIS COMMISSIONER AND HAD HIS TWO LEGISLATIVE AIDES AT THE TIME THAT MINE WAS HIRED BECAUSE I WAS TOLD I NEEDED ONE. SO ANYHOW, IT'S NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING. EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT EVERYONE. WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO THE BEST JOB WE CAN WHILE WE ALL SUPPOSEDLY HAVE OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD, TOO. AND WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE SOME OF THE WORKLOAD OFF OF THE THE CITIES THAT I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. BUT I THINK IT MORE COMES ON US AND WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE BUDGET. AND YOU CAN MAKE ALL YOUR ACCUSATIONS THAT YOU WANT BECAUSE YOU LIKE TO THROW THESE THINGS OUT THERE. AND I REMIND YOU, NOT ALL YOUR STATED COMMENTS THAT YOU BELIEVE ARE FACTS ARE FACTS. ANYWAY, YOU WANT THE FLOOR BACK? I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. YES, I THREW THE CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO VERIFY WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE VIOLATING THE CHARTER BY MAKING THIS LANGUAGE CHANGE IN TERMS O HAVING LEGISLATIVE AIDES. BUT IN FACT, I'M GLAD MR. CALHOUN WAS ON ON THE VIRTUAL MEETING, IN FACT. THE CHARTER PROVIDED THE CITY MANAGER IS HAS THE AUTHORITY TO HIRE AND EXPECT TO OBVIOUSLY HE HAS THE AUTHORITY TO HIRE, BUT HE ALSO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO HAVE WHICH THE COMMUNITY LIAISON, WHICH IS REPORT REPORT TO THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF JOB RESPONSIBILITY. SO. OBVIOUSLY, BASED ON MY OWN ASSESSMENT, MY WORK WITH MR. GARLAND IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT THAT THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE, POSITION PAPERS AND COMMUNITY LIAISON WOULD FALL UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA. OK, BECAUSE COMMUNITY IS ON A POSITION THAT WORKS UNDER MEMBERS OF THE CITY. OK. SO WE'RE NOT VIOLATING THE CHARTER, AS THE COMMISSIONER HAS ACCUSED US OF, JOE GOMEZ SAID THAT LEGISLATIVE AIDES ARE NOT TO BE PAID BY THE CITY COMMISSION. IT'S ANY CITY COMMISSIONER MAY HAVE THREE LEGISLATIVE AIDES AND WE WERE PICKING OUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES. THAT IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. WE CANNOT PAY. THE CITY COMMISSION CANNOT PAY. THE CITY COMMISSION IS NOT PAYING, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE CHANGING THIS LANGUAGE. AIDS MAY NOT BE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS, CORRECT. SO IN THE CITY OF MIRAMAR, WHEN THEY HAVE LEGISLATIVE AIDS, THEY ARE NOT EMPLOYEES [07:30:05] OF THE CITY. THEY WORK FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT THEY ARE NOT EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. BUT WHO'S GOING TO PAY THEM? COMMISSIONER GARLAND? ARE YOU PAYING THEM OUT OF YOUR POCKET? THEY CAN STILL BE PAID AND NOT BE CLASSIFIED AS EMPLOYEES. AND THAT'S NOT AND THAT'S NOT OUR ISSUE. THAT'S AN ISSUE. OUR ISSUE IS TO CHANGE THE LAW AND IT'S FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE H.R. DIRECTOR TO FIGURE THE REST OUT. SO I MADE A MOTION, IT WAS SECONDED, AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE CAN CALL THE ROLL. MR. BOLTON HAS HIS HAND UP. NOW, MY QUESTION. OK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THIS IS EASY. THE HORNS, YOU'RE THE CITY ATTORNEY, CORRECT? YES. DO YOU WORK FOR THE CITY COMMISSION? I REPORT TO THE COMMISSION. YES, RIGHT. HOW DO YOU GET PAID? I PAY JUST THROUGH THE CITY COFFERS. THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'RE ON CONTRACT WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT. WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS. LEGISLATIVE AIDES COULD BE TREATED JUST LIKE HOW THE CITY ATTORNEYS ARE. THE CITY ATTORNEY IS TREATED. THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS, THE CITY COMMISSION. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT, BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER, I CHOSE THE OFFICES, RIGHT. SO THEY THEY FALL INTO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY. BUT NEVERTHELESS, I BELIEVE THAT WAS MR. CARL WHO EXPLAINED THAT THE REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE CAN BE ACHIEVED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CHARTER WITH RESPECT TO LEGISLATIVE COMMUNITY LIAISON. SO I NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH MR. POWELL AND WE'LL WORK THOSE ISSUES OUT, OK? EXACTLY. SO WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION. NOW, THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR YOU AND LORENZO AND THE CITY ATTORNEY. ALL WE WANT TO DO IS CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TONIGHT. AND I MOVE ON AND TO AND TO ADDRESS WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, MADAM MAYOR, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOUR THUGS TO MISCONSTRUE ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID. I DID HAVE TO ENGAGEMENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISONS AT THE TIME, BUT THEY SHARED THE COST. SO YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON, I THINK, GETS TWENTY OR TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR. MY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON, WE'RE SHARING THAT SAME COST. SO ONE WOULD GET FIVE THOUSAND OR SEVEN THOUSAND, ONE WOULD GET TEN THOUSAND, WHICH STILL CAME UNDER BUDGET AT THE END OF THE YEAR. I'M STILL UNDER BUDGET FOR MY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON BECAUSE MY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON DOES NOT HAVE TO WRITE MY MY MAYOR'S MESSAGE DOES NOT HAVE TO WRITE IT TO PUBLISH IT IN TIME. RED TALK DOES NOT PUT IT ON NEXT DOOR, DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME FUNCTIONS AS YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON. SO I'M ON THE BUDGET. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I KNOW YOU'RE ONE OF YOUR COMMUNITY, LIKE YOUR EXAMS DID NOT EVEN MAKE IT A WEEK. BUT ANYHOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR NOTICING THAT I WRITE VERY WELL AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE NOTICED MY SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE. I WILL TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT. CAN WE NOW PLEASE CALL THE ROLL HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU ARE THE PRINCIPAL. VICE MAYOR BILL. YES. MR. PLECO, YES, COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YES, MR. GARLAND, YES, AND THEY MAYOR GOMA'S. THE MOTION PASSES FOUR TO ONE. SHE'S THOUGHT THE PEOPLE OVER INTERVIEW. OH. SO WE HAVE COMPLETED THE PLACING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. RULES OF CONDUCT OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION DURING MEETINGS. CUSTOM AND PRACTICE REGULATES DEBATE AMONG THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND USES DISCRETION TO A DEBATE ALONG SECTIONS TWO DASH THIRTY FOUR H. I OR ONE. THE CITY CODE PROVIDES THE MAYOR WITH THE AUTHORITY TO REGULATE DEBATE AND AUTHORITY TO REMOVE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION WHO CAUSED DISRUPTION AND DISTURBANCE OF THE MEETING. THE SECTION ALSO PROVIDES FOR THE ARREST OF ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION WHO WILLFULLY INTERRUPT OR DISTURBS THE COMMISSION MEETING. [07:35:03] OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING THAT I HAVE DONE. BUT THOSE REQUESTS REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE TO REMOVE THE AUTHORITY OF THE MAYOR, TO REMOVE ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND ELIMINATE THE PROVISION, SUBJECTING ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO ARREST, ALTERNATIVELY, KEEP CUSTOM AND PRACTICE, WHICH IS IN PLACE NOW. COMMISSIONER GARLAND. GARLAND. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE. I CAN ALMOST AT ANY DISCUSSION. I JUST WANT THE CLERK TO REPEAT WHAT SHE UNDERSTANDS. SO MR. GARLAND MADE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE LANGUAGE AS PROPOSED, WHICH SAYS A REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE TO REMOVE THE AUTHORITY OF THE MAYOR, TO REMOVE A MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION AND TO ELIMINATE THE PROVISION, SUBJECTING A MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION TO ARREST, CORRECT? YES. THANK YOU. BECAUSE IT'S JUST BEEN USED SO OFTEN, CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. YES, MR. VOTING, YES, I REMEMBER LITTLE OF US, I FORGET. AND YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARLAND. YES, AND MAYOR GOMEZ. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TWO ZERO. POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR GOMEZ, DO WE COVER SECTION FIVE OF THE MEMO PLACING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA? YES, WE DID. OK. THANK YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, YES, WE DID. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE ITEM IS THAT IS THAT DO WE HAVE TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT OF THE SIX DAYS BEFORE THERE IS A CODE REQUIREMENT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM. WE'RE GOING TO BE KEY TO THE CITY, THERE'S NO CUSTOMER PRACTICES, NO RULES, THERE'S A REQUEST TO CREATE REASONABLE RULES TO PERMIT KEYS TO THE CITY SIMILAR TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES RESPONSE REPRESENTING THE KEY TO THE NOMINEE. AND WE HAVE NO BACKUP ON THIS TO KNOW WHICH OTHER CITIES HAVE ANY SUCH KEYS. THE CITY. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS FOR. BUT I GUESS COMMISSIONER GARLAND, GO AHEAD. I JUST HAD MY HAND UP NOT FOR THIS ITEM, BUT JUST WANT TO COVER SOMETHING ELSE AFTER THEY GO THROUGH THIS ITEM, BUT I WANT EVERYTHIN ON THIS ITEM EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME DATA FROM OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY DO AND THEN WE CAN ADOPT SOMETHING. OR IF THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN TELL US WHAT THEY DID REGARDING KEYS TO THE CITY AT THE CITY OF HOUSE WHERE HE WAS. COMMISSIONER BOLTON, I'D LIKE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO RESPOND FIRST. AND WAS RIGHT? YES. IN FACT, I RECEIVED A KEY TO THE CITY OF CITY OF NORTH MIAMI FOR BEING THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN CITY ATTORNEY IN THAT CITY, GENTILLY IS ONLY JUST LIKE PROCLAMATION. YOU KNOW, THE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION WOULD REQUEST THE KEY TO THE CITY THROUGH OBVIOUSLY THE COMMISSION BODY AND EVENTUALLY IT IS GIVEN TO THE NOMINEE, EITHER AT THE COMMISSION MEETING OR IT CAN BE GIVEN, AS COMMISSIONER BOLDLY INDICATE, AT A DIFFERENT EVENT. YOU KNOW, SO IS SIMILAR TO A PROCLAMATION, BUT IT'S IS ELEVATED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE BECAUSE GENERALLY WHEN YOU SEE THE KEY TO THE CITY, THEY THEY JUST GAVE YOU. TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, JANUARY 27 IS OFTEN AN UPDATE IN A CITY THAT MIGHT GET. CONGRATULATIONS ON. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OK, SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT. SO I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO HERE IS THE EXACT SAME THING. START DOING STUDIES LIKE KEYS TO THE CITY AND TREAT IT EXACTLY LIKE A [07:40:02] PROCLAMATION REQUEST AND AND FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS WE FOLLOW FOR PROCLAMATION'S. MR. GOODVIN. I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF A KEY TO THE CITY, I JUST LIKE TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW WE'RE HONORING PROCLAMATION VERSUS THE KEY TO THE CITY. I HEARD JOHN SAY IT'S KIND OF AN ELEVATED MANNER. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND I KNOW WE'VE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT. I REMEMBER YEARS PASSING THAT, BUT I JUST LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEFINE WHETHER THEY GET A PROCLAMATION OR WHETHER THEY GET A KEY TO THE CITY TRUSTEE. THERE HAS TO BE A DIFFERENCE IN SIGNIFICANCE, OTHERWISE IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THAT FOR ME IF ANYBODY CAN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT ANY CITY OF ISD CONDITIONS, IF SOMEBODY OBVIOUSLY IS INDICTED ON A CRIMINAL CHARGE, YOU DON'T KISS YOUR KIDS IN THE CITY. SO YOU CAN USE LOTS OF CITIES, HAVE SOME GUIDELINES THAT ARE FLEXIBLE, YOU KNOW, BUT THOSE GUIDELINES, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY CAN DO SOME SOME RESEARCH AND COME UP WITH SOME GUIDELINES. SO IF A MEMBER OF COMMISSION WAS ISSUED TO THE CITY, THAT IS WITHIN A LIMITED GUIDELINES THAT AT LEAST IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IS UNDER INDICTMENT AND GONE TO CRIMINAL TRIAL, YOU MAY NOT WANT TO GIVE THAT PERSON THE KEY AS A BUCK. BUT NEVERTHELESS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME GUIDELINES OUT THAT WE CAN PICK FROM. SO IT WOULD BE A PROCESS THAT EVERYBODY IS ACCEPTABLE TO. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAD PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUR SISTER CITY, WE WOULD WANT TO GIVE THEM THE KEYS TO THE CITY DIGNITARIES COMING IN. WE WOULD WANT TO GIVE THEM TO THE CITY. I GET THAT. BUT I JUST I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE. SO THIS IS SPECIAL. THIS IS VALID. AND IT'S A DIFFERENT THAN A PROCLAMATION. THAT'S MY ONLY POINT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. THE. SORRY, I'M DONE, MAYOR. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET CONSENSUS ON THIS, SO I'D LIKE TO BE THE FIRST ONE TO GET THE KEYS, BUT WE CAN TAKE NOTE OF THAT. AND NOW I CLAIM THAT YOU TWO KNEW WHY. AND I DON'T THINK WE GET YOU A MONTH YET. I WANT MINE TO BE GOLD, PLEASE. I'LL TAKE PLATINUM, MR. BOLTON, I THANK YOU, MADAM. ER, I, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS MY IDEA. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PLECO REGULATIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GARLAND LET YOU KNOW. I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE I THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH IT THIS EVENING WITH BEING THE SAME LANGUAGE AT THE SAME STANDARD AS THE PROCLAMATION, AND THAT NOBODY WHO IS UNDER CRIMINAL INDICTMENT OR GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WOULD RECEIVE A KEY TO THE CITY. IN MY MIND, A PROCLAMATION IS LIKE A VERY HIGH HONOR AS WELL. AND I DON'T TAKE PROCLAMATION'S LIGHTLY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR PROCLAMATION'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A COUPLE OF TIMES OF THE MONTH. AND I'M LIKE, NO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T IT'S NOT LIKE I, YO KNOW, BEING, YOU KNOW, CRAZY. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, YOU KNOW, IT RISES TO TO THAT LEVEL, MAYBE A CERTIFICATE OR SOMETHING, BUT NOT A NOT A PROCLAMATION. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I DON'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, REQUEST A LOT OF PROCLAMATIONS. MY PROCLAMATIONS ARE GENERALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, BLACK HISTORY MONTH OR MARTIN LUTHER KING, THAT SORT OF STUFF LIKE, YOU KNOW, DATE SPECIAL DATES. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL ADULTS AND WE SHOULD LEAVE IT UP TO TO EACH COMMISSIONER'S DISCRETION, JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE PROCLAMATION'S. SO JUST THE GUIDELINES WOULD BE THE SAME AS THE PROCLAMATION AND ADD LANGUAGE THAT THE KEYS TO THE CITY WOULD NOT BE GIVEN TO SOMEBODY THAT HAS A CRIMINAL INDICTED FOR FOR FOR FOR A CRIME. [07:45:03] WHAT DO YOU THINK COMMISSIONER GARLAND HAS ASSEMBLED? WELL, I'M GOING TO GO FIRST TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE HE HAD HIS HANDS UP TO SEE IF HE HAS ANYTHING HE WISHES TO. AND THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY, YES, MAYOR, WHATEVER STANDARDS THAT THE COMMISSION WANTED, INCLUDING RESPECT IN KANSAS CITY, AS WOULD END THE COMMISSION DISCRETION. SO YOU GUYS HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND IF THE MAJORITY OF YOU GUYS WANT TO AGREE WITH THE SUGGESTION BY COMMISSIONER BOLTEN, THAT'S FINE. IF THERE'S ANY MORE DISCUSSION IS UP TO YOU GUYS IS A DISCRETIONARY MATTER. THANK YOU, MR. GARLAND. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH GUIDELINES BASED ON WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE. SO I WE DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY OF THE CITY MANAGER, BUT TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME GUIDELINES OF OTHER CITIES THAT PROVIDE KEY TO THE CITY. IN THAT WAY WE CAN DEVELOP OUR OWN OR ALTERNATIVELY AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT A MOTION, IF WE ALREADY HAVE SOME GUIDELINES, WE CAN SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY ATTORNEY AND THEN DEVELOP OUR OWN GUIDELINES BEFORE VOTING ON IT. BUT SO I GUESS NO. SO I GUESS MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE CREATION OF KEYS TO THE CITY AND THEN WE CAN DEVELOP GUIDELINES LATER ON. YES. YEAH. SO MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT OF CREATING A PIECE OF THE CITY POLICY OR STANDARDS. WE WILL I WILL INCLUDE THAT IN THE CODE WAR PROCLAMATION AND SUBJECT TO THE CREATION OF GUIDELINES. OK, OK. IS THERE A SECOND I SECOND THE. AND I WANT A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED, YOU ARE GOING TO PUT IT WITH GUIDELINES FOR THE PROCLAMATION'S. NOW THE POPULATION STANDS ON HIS OWN. WITH RESPECT, I THINK THE SYSTEM HERE WITH THE KIDS TO SEE THAT THE COMMISSION WANT SOME GUIDELINES ESTABLISHED. SO WITH THE KIDS CITY, WE WILL CREATE GUIDELINES AT A LATER DATE. MOLARO. CAN THE CITY CLERK JUST CLARIFY WHAT SHE HEARD OR COMMISSIONER GARLAND HAD A MOTION WHICH IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BOLTON TO CREATE A KEY FOR THE CITY POLICY SUBJECT TO THE CREATION OF GUIDELINE? SO SO CREATING A POLICY IS SUCH A GOOD IDEA, IT'S DOING SOMETHING OK. KEYS TO THE CITY PROGRAM. YEAH, INITIATIVE. YEAH, AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT GUIDELINES, CORRECT? YEAH, OK. YOU'RE VOTING YES, MR. GARLAND, YES, VICE MAYOR OF ELIZABETH. YES, YES. AND MAYOR GOMEZ, YES, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, FIVE TWO ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I BELIEVE THE NIGHTMARE OF THOSE HAD REQUESTED THAT HE HAD AN ITEM TO THE AGENDA PRIOR TO YOUR REQUEST. COMMISSIONER GARLAND. SO VICE MAYOR. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITY CLERK FOR SENDING ME THIS INFORMATION. I THINK THIS IS, IF NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. AND CONSIDERING THAT I HAVE SUPPORTED ALL MY COLLEAGUES THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, I ALSO LIKE TO GET SUPPORT ON THIS. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE VERY MINDFUL OF. WE REPRESENT THE ENTIRE CITY IN DISTRICT ONE, FOR THAT MATTER, WHEN DISTRICT THREE COMMISSIONER VOTES ON A PROJECT IN DISTRICT ONE, IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY AND VICE VERSA. FOR EVERY DISTRICT, RESIDENTS CANNOT VOTE FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S UNFAIR. IT'S IT'S IT SHOULD BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. SO AND I KNOW IT'S A CHARTER CHANGE AND PERHAPS GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY MANAGER IN REGARDS TO THIS, SO THAT WHEN WE DO RUN FOR ELECTIONS, THAT IT'S AN ELECTION AT LARGE FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON TRYING TO GET INTO OFFICE. IF A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT ONE CANNOT VOTE FOR ME, WHY SHOULD I BE MAKING DECISIONS FOR THEM? AND THAT GOES FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. SO FOR ME, AT THIS POINT, I JUST WANT CLARITY AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO SO THAT THE [07:50:04] ENTIRE COMMISSION REPRESENT EVERYBODY AND EVERY SINGLE BODY THAT'S EIGHT OF EIGHT CAN ELECT ALL OF US VERSUS A DISTRICT BASED. AND I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT. YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IF EVERY CITY THAT I KNOW OF NEARBY CAN DO THAT, SO CAN WE. AND IF EVERYBODY I CAN IF I CAN VOTE FOR A PROJECT IN SOMEONE ELSE'S DISTRICT, BUT THAT VOTER CANNOT VOTE FOR ME AND I'M BEING REPETITIVE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY POINT IS MADE. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY BIGGER THAN THIS WHOLE THING THAT WE JUST PROCESSED FOR THE LAST 50 HOURS OF THE DAY. THANK YOU. CITY ATTORNEY, WILL YOU PLEASE RESPOND TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A BROADER ISSUE AND THE PROPER DIRECTNESS FOR THE CHARTER COMMISSION THAT WILL BE CREATED IS TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER AND FOR YOU, WILL YO PLEASE BRING THAT FORTH, MAYOR? GOLDMINERS, YOU ARE CORRECT. THIS IS CLEARLY A CHARTER ISSUE THAT ANY CHANGE WOULD REQUIRE VOTER APPROVAL. AND BASICALLY, IF THIS COMMISSION DESIRED CHANGE, OBVIOUSLY, A MAJORITY OF COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO CONCUR WITH ANY PROPOSED CHANGE. AND ADDITIONALLY, THE CHARTER HAS A PROVISION WHICH I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER HAD DISCUSSED AT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION THAT REQUIRE THE CITY TO HIRE EITHER FSU LOCAL COLLEGE TO STUDY THE POPULATION GROWTH IN EACH DISTRICT. SO YOU HAVE TO CHART A PROVISION THAT DEALS WITH THAT ISSUE. SO IF YOU SEEK TO CHANGE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO MANAGE YOUR LICENSING LEVELS. OK. THANK YOU. MICHIGAN SO, SO DIVISIVE, MAYBE THE LOWBALLS THIS DECEMBER BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST AND BROUGHT UP TO THE MEMBERS OF MY COMMUNITY IN THE WOODLANDS WHO ACTUALLY WANTED WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY FELT THAT THE VOTES FROM COMMISSIONER PLIEGO AND COMMISSIONER FRISHMAN WERE CRITICAL IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY BE HEADED THEIR WAY. AND SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE A SAY IN ELECTING OR VOTING AGAINST OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE VOTING AGAINST SOMETHING THAT THEY DESIRE. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, ELECTIONS COST MONEY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO RAISE MONEY AND TO RUN IN ONE PARTICULAR DISTRICT WITH 12000 VOTES AND 12000 VOTER AND MAYBE SIX THOUSAND COME OUT VERSUS RUNNING CITYWIDE. SO WHAT YOU DO THERE IS YOU PUT THE POWER IN THE HANDS OF THE LOBBYISTS OR THE LOBBYIST CAN FUNDRAISE AND HAVE HAVE A STRONGER SAY IN THE OUTCOME OF AN ELECTION. AND IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR THE WORKING CLASS PERSON, A TEACHER, A BUS DRIVER OR SOMEBODY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS COMMISSION, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? ALL ENTREPRENEURS AND A RETIREE. AND IF YOU MAKE THE VOTE CITYWIDE, IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER FOR A PERSON WITHOUT THE WELL, THE MEANS OR THE CONNECTIONS OF THE NETWORK TO RUN A CITYWIDE CAMPAIGN. SO IT KIND OF CUTS BOTH WAYS. BUT I DEFINITELY FELT FOR THE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT WHO WERE ANGRY AT OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO VOTED AGAINST THEM, AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO TO VOTE THOSE FOLKS OUT. AND YOU ARE ACTUALLY A BENEFICIARY OF THAT ANGER, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF DOLLARS WHEN YOU'RE AWAY FROM RESIDENTS OF THE WOODLANDS WHO CHAMPION YOUR CAMPAIGN AND THEIR SUPPORT OF YOUR CAMPAIGN BECAUSE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER VOTED FOR A PROJECT THAT THEY WERE AGAINST, SORT OF CUTS BOTH WAYS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT YOU KNOW, IT CAN HURT YOUR AVERAGE PERSON WHO'S TRYING TO WIN AN ELECTION AND DOESN'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO CAMPAIGN CITYWIDE. AND AS WE MOVE INTO THIS DIGITAL PHASE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG EVEN THE PANDEMIC GOES AWAY. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOW USED TO VOTING BY MAIL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STICK TO THAT. AND SO THAT MAKES AN ELECTION EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE. WHEN YOU HAVE TO SEND A LOT OF CAMPAIGN FLIERS IN THE MAIL, IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER FOR THAT COMMON COMMON PERSON TO WIN AN ELECTION WITHOUT THE BACKING OF PACS AND BIG DEVELOPERS AND COMPANIES BASICALLY DICTATING WHO'S GOING TO WIN A CAMPAIGN THROUGH THEIR MONEY. I THINK COMMISSIONER GARLAND WAS MAKING A STATEMENT OR A QUESTION TO [07:55:01] ME. SO CAN I REPLY? IF NEED BE, YES, I THINK RIGHT NOW THE LOBBYISTS ARE CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DICTATING WHO GETS ELECTED. SO I JUST WANT TO GET SUPPORT FROM MY COLLEAGUES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. BUT YES, TO YOUR POINT, IT IS TRUE, TOO. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT COSTS MONEY TO RUN. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, YOU CAN DO IT. THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT WE DID I WANT TO DO THAT I CAN'T DO AND VICE VERSA WITH THE WHOLE WORLD. MR. GOODVIN. OH. WELL, I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS NOT THE VENUE THAT COMMISSION TOGETHER, THE LITTLE GIRL CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THIS IS UNDER A CUSTOM OF PRACTICE ITEM AND WITH THE MAYOR AND I SO STICKLER FOR PROCEDURE THAT WOULD NEVER BE MOVED FORWARD TONIGHT. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. IT DISENFRANCHIZES PEOPLE. I GET I GET WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BY SPEAKER. I FEEL LIKE I'M VERY MORE I'M VERY MUCH MORE POPULAR IN THE CITY THAN IN MY DISTRICT AND UP TO FIVE PERCENT OF THE VOTES IN MY DISTRICT. AND I'M MORE POPULAR IN THE CITY THAN IN MY DISTRICT. SO IMAGINE IF I RAN FOR A CITYWIDE SEAT, WHICH I WON'T BE MAYOR. SO I DON'T FEEL AND OH, I WOULD WIN. SO, YOU KNOW, SO IF I'M THINKING ABOUT ME, I WOULD I'D PROBABLY NOT CARE. MY LAST ELECTION, I RAISED EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS LARGE, LARGELY FROM SMALL MONEY DONORS, 20 DOLLARS AND 20 CENTS. I CAN I CAN RAISE A LOT OF MONEY. CONTRARY TO WHAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND SAID. I WENT THROUGH YOUR CAMPAIGN REPORTS, VICE MAYOR, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE WOODLANDS DID NOT GIVE YOU A LOT OF MONEY. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S I MEAN, YOU LARGELY SELF-FUNDED YOUR YOUR CAMPAIGN. NOW, WHILE YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SELF FUND YOUR CAMPAIGN BECAUSE YOU'RE A REAL ESTATE TYCOON WITH A LOT OF MONEY, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WOULD BE DISENFRANCHIZING THE FUTURE BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RUN FOR THE SEAT, BUT TO NOT AFFORD RUNNING FOR THE SEAT. I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE MY RIGHT HAND, RIGHT. OR DIE WHEN I WAS RUNNING, WE KNOCKED ON DOORS BECAUSE I ONLY RAISED I THINK IT WAS SIXTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR MY FIRST RACE. WE KNOCKED ON ALMOST EVERY DOOR IN MY DISTRICT, LIKE LITERALLY KNOCKED ON EVERY SINGLE DOOR. AND WHEN I COULD NOT SPEAK SPANISH, YOU WOULD TAKE OVER THAT DOOR FOR ME WHILE I GO TO ANOTHER DOOR THAT SPOKE ENGLISH. SO IMAGINE DOING THAT ON A CITYWIDE BASIS. AND I DON'T HAVE TO IMAGINE BECAUSE I DID IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS TRYING TO OUST THE MAYOR. RIGHT. AND WE KNOCKED ON THOUSANDS OF DOORS, I PROMISED MYSELF THAT I WOULD NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN. THAT'S MY SELFISH OF ME. BUT WHAT IS UNSELFISH IS THAT I DON'T WANT TO DISENFRANCHIZE THE THE FUTURE. THE FUTURE IS ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO RUN WITHOUT MONEY. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE MONEY FROM LOBBYISTS OR THE LOBBYISTS WILL NOT GIVE THEM MONEY. I HAVE A PHILOSOPHY HERE THAT THAT SAYS I DON'T MEET WITH LOBBYISTS AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY CATCH ME OFF GUARD. BUT, YOU KNOW, I LARGELY I MAY HAVE SLIPPED ONE OR TWO TIMES, BUT I DON'T MEET WITH LOBBYISTS, SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME THEIR MONEY. AND NO MATTER HOW I BEG THEM BESIEGED, THEY WOULD NOT GIVE ME THEIR MONEY. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? I VOTED NO ON THEIR PROJECTS AND THEY HATED ME FOR THAT. SO SOME OF THEM DON'T FORGET, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW, YOU KNOW, CRAZY I WAS WHEN SAYING, NO, I DIDN'T JUST SAY NO. BUT I REPEAT THERE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT TO THREATS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT. [08:00:05] SO YOU'RE GOING TO DISENFRANCHIZE ENFRANCHISED PEOPLE WHERE WHERE MONEY IS CONCERNED. AND NUMBER TWO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT AREAS THAT ARE LARGELY HISPANIC OR LARGELY AFRICAN-AMERICAN? PEOPLE COULD HAVE A BETTER ADVANTAGE IN THOSE AREAS VERSUS RUNNING CITYWIDE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT WOULD NOT BE BENEFICIAL TO THEM. HOW ABOUT DISTRICTS THAT ARE LARGELY REPUBLICAN? I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS KNOW THEY'RE THEIR SEATS, BUT I STUDY EVERY SINGLE PERSON SEAT AND COMMISSION. THE BLACK HOLE HAS A LOT MORE REPUBLICANS IN HER DISTRICT THAN ANY OTHER DISTRICT THERE IS. SO YOU ARE IN THIS THIS IS I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU IT'S A BAD IDEA, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANT TO SUPPORT, BUT IT'S I. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE TO DISENFRANCHIZE, DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, HISPANICS, AFRICAN AMERICAN. ASIANS, PEOPLE WITHOUT MONEY ARE YOUNG PEOPLE, SENIOR CITIZENS WHO CAN'T NECESSARILY WALK DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR TO DOOR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR OUR CITY IS A MELTING POT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AND WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY JUST RUNNING CITYWIDE FOR EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, REALLY AND TRULY. IT'S IS HARD. LET'S LEAVE THAT AT LARGE SEAT TO THE MAYOR WHERE WE KNOW SHE MAY NOT LIKE DOOR TO DOOR. SO LET'S KNOCK OUT THOSE DOORS THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT JUST DON'T GET WHAT REALLY AND TRULY I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE YOU'RE COMING FROM. VICE MAYOR VILLA LOBOS, IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER WAY OF AT LEAST CONVINCING. ME, AS A CRITIC, I JUST WOULD LIKE DIRECTION OR GUIDANCE FROM CITY ATTORNEY, PERHAPS AT A LATER TIME. AN ELECTION IS NEVER A FAIR PLAYING FIELD. IT WOULD NEVER BE. AND THOSE WHO THINK THAT IT WILL BE, IT WILL NEVER BE. THERE ARE THREE THINGS IN AN ELECTION. EITHER HAVE MONEY, TIME OR ENERGY. YOU HAVE ONE. YOU BETTER OUTDO THE OTHER TWO IF YOU HAVE TO. YOU A BETTER CHANCE. YOU HAVE ALL THREE. FORGET ABOUT IT. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY, YOU BETTER HAVE TIME. IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO HAVE ENERGY FOR WHICHEVER WAY THAT GOES, THAT'S HOW YOU WIN AN ELECTION. NOT JUST BY HAVING LITTLE OR NO MONEY OR HAVING TOO MUCH ENERGY OR NOT HAVING ENERGY. IT WILL NEVER BE A FAIR PLAYING FIELD. SO AT THIS POINT, I JUST REALLY LIKE THE DIRECTION AND I'M THINKING AND I'M ALMOST CERTAIN BY ONE HUNDRED PERCENT, BY ONE HUNDRED PERCENT THAT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE IN FAVOR OF THIS, REGARDLESS OF WHO WILL BE RUNNING ON AN ELECTION. THAT'S IRRELEVANT IN THE SAME WAY WE CAN DIRECT AND POLL AND SURVEY THE WHOLE CITY. I ASSURE YOU THAT WE WILL GET ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RESPONDENTS OF PEOPLE WANTING TO VOTE FOR THE ENTIRE BODY VERSUS JUST ONE PERSON. AND THIS ELIMINATES ALSO THE HOSTILITY WITH WHOSE PRESIDENT IS AND WHO'S NOT. THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIDENCE ON THE VOTE OF ONE HUNDRED PEOPLE. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THIS COMMUNITY IN THIS CITY VOTING FOR ANYTHING. AND I THINK, AS I SAID EARLIER, IT GOES BACK TO THE FACT THAT THIS TOPIC NEEDS TO BE BEFORE THE CHARTER COMMISSION THAT THE CITY WILL BE PUTTING TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE. CASE I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE. I'M KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN'T TIP THE SCALE AT THIS POINT. I HAVE VERY MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT IT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. BEING IS THIS IS A CHARTER ISSUE AND WE WILL BE SEATING A CHARTER BOARD SOON. CAN WE? AND I I FIRMLY BELIEVE IN SUPPORTING COLLEAGUES. SO IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN TAKE A STEP BACK FROM THIS JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, JUST TO KIND OF THINK IT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT SO THAT WE CAN BE IN AGREEMENT AND WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CHARTER SHOULD WE DECIDE TO? I THINK I'M SORRY, BUT I THINK THAT IS BASICALLY THE POINT, AS EVEN COMMISSIONER BOLTON HAS SAID PROCEDURALLY, THIS IS NOT FOR US TO DIRECT ANYTHING THROUGH HERE. THIS IS NOT A CUSTOM AND PRACTICE. THIS IS A TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION FOR WHEN A CHARTER OF YOU IS SEATED, AS IT SHOULD BE. ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT COMES BAC TO US FOR REVIEW. [08:05:03] IF IT SHOULD BE ON A FUTURE BALLOT. WE THAT'S THE PROCESS IS NOT. FOR US TO DO A MOTION TO APPROVE OR NOT AT THIS TIME, WE CANNOT SAY THAT. I WAS JUST SAYING IF WE CAN GET THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION IN THE INTERIM OF FROM NOW TO THAT CHARTER TIME, THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY ASKING FOR. SO BASICALLY, WE'VE HAD A REALLY LONG CONVERSATION FOR IT TO BE ROUND ABOUT. THAT VICE MAYOR WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON HOW TO DO A PROPOSAL OR SOME SORT REGARDING. CITYWIDE ELECTIONS BEFORE THE CHARTER. SO THE ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU PLEASE DRAFT A MEMO AT YOUR CONVENIENCE? AND VITIT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GARLAND, YOU HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THE LIST OF CITIES CUSTOM AND PRACTICES FOR THE EVENING. YEAH, WE DISCUSSED IT BRIEFLY ON MONDAY, BUT JUST FINDING OUT, GETTING A CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION ON WHETHER OR NOT EVERYONE WANTS FULL ACCESS VIA NEXT DOOR TO THE ENTIRE CITY OR BE A DISTRICT. I THINK AT OUR MEETING, WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAD THE PEIO OFFICER IN PLACE AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WHEN THE CIA OFFICER CAME ON BOARD FOR SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER WAYS THAT WE WERE DOING THINGS. THAT WASN'T MY UNDERSTANDING. ANY DISCUSSION NOW? YEAH, THAT WASN'T MY UNDERSTANDING. SO WE CAN GET CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION. BOTH OF YOUR HAND IS RAISED. YES, MADAM MAYOR, I WILL ANSWER COMMISSIONER GARLAND QUESTION, BUT I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ITEM THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING. IT'S NOT LONG AND I DO AND I DO HAVE A STANDING APPOINTMENT, SO I HAVE TO GO QUICK. SO, YES, I DO WANT TO DISCUSS THE NEXT ISSUE TONIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR THE PERIOD TO COME ON. SO THE TOPIC IS ON THE FLOOR. OK, THANK YOU. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR NEXT DOOR BE CITY WIDE FOR NOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE ITEMS THAT REQUIRE ME TO ASK THE ENTIRE CITY WHAT THEY THINK. SO, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WHEN I HAD THE STORAGE FACILITY ISSUE, I WANTED TO INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE WOODLANDS, PEOPLE WHO LIVED CLOSE TO UNCOMMERCIAL. SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD INCLUDE A LARGE PART OF OUR DISTRICT, TOO. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE THINGS THAT I WANT TO POST THAT REALLY AND TRULY I DON'T WANT TO POST FOR THE ENTIRE CITY BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT I WANT MY DISTRICT ONLY TO KNOW. FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE ARE IF THERE IS A HOME REHABILITATION GRANT, I NEED TO POST THAT CITYWIDE BECAUSE I WANT THE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT TO TAKE A LOT OF ADVANTAGE OF IT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I WILL NOT POST STATEWIDE, SO I WILL STAY IN MY LANE, SO TO SPEAK. BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT I WANT TO POST, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE, LIKE POLLING QUESTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT AN UPCOMING VOTE AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. SO I'M GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER GARLAND, YOU KNOW, IF THIS PASSES TONIGHT, THAT HE JUST BE KIND TO ALL OF US. COMMISSIONER FLOCCO, YOU'RE ON. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT, I THINK IT COULD BE USEFUL IN SOME POINT, BUT THE THING THAT COMES TO MIND WITH ME IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY PUTS OUT SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HELPING WITH YOUR TAXES AND. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US POSTED IN THE SAME VENUE THEN, I MEAN, I KNOW EVEN NOW MY RESIDENTS ARE CALLING AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHY AM I GETTING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN? SO MAYBE WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT, AT LEAST THAT WE'RE NOT ALL POSTING THE SAME THING IN THE SAME VENUE. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENT TO THAT. THANK YOU. LOSING MY VOICE NOW. SO THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR. UH, I'LL ECHO THEIR PLIGHT, WAS SO SCARED OF LOSING IT, I'M TWISTING EM. [08:10:09] I WOULD AGREE. AND THE SAME THING LIMITATION. IF THE CITY IS POSTING ABOUT A FOOD DRIVE, THEN THE COMMISSIONER'S POSTING ABOUT A FOOD DRIVE AND THEN THE OTHER COMMISSIONER POSTING ABOUT A FOOD DRIVE. IT DRIVES US CRAZY. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE ON A LIMIT. IF THERE'S SEVEN DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK, THERE IS FIVE OF US. THERE SHOULD BE ONE POST AND TWO CITIES FOR EACH OF US HAVING ONE POST EVERY DAY FROM ONE PERSON IS A REALLY TERRIBLE IDEA. SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME GUIDELINES AND SOME LIMITATIONS. SO UNLESS THAT WORK COMMISSIONER GALLANT'S PROPOSAL IS I'LL SUPPORT IT, OTHERWISE I. I THINK ABOUT IT. AND REMEMBER, NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A MOTION AND DECISION TONIGHT, IT'S CALLED A DISCUSSION FOR A REASON TO BRING BACK THING LATER. AND BEFORE I GO TO MR. GAGNON MR. GOODVIN, I'M GOING TO SAY MY THOUGHTS. I FIND SOME OF THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE HYPOCRITICAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN EARLIER IN THIS CONVERSATION, PEOPLE ARE SAYING, STAY IN YOUR OWN LANE, DON'T POST TO MY CITY, DON'T POST TO MY DISTRICT. AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POSTING AND GETTING THINGS ALL OVER EVERYBODY ELSE'S DISTRICT. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT SENDS A MIXED MESSAGE TO WHAT YOU HAVE FOR COLLEGIALITY AS FAR AS PEOPLE. I THINK IT WAS MONDAY TIME IS JUST AS IT IS THAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR PEOPLE WITH SHUFFLING PAPERS, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE MY. WHEN PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR NEXT DOOR. WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, WHAT DID THEY SIGN UP FOR? DID THEY EXPECT TO BE BOMBARDED BY THIS CITY? EVERY ONE OF US, DO THEY EXPECT TO ONLY RECEIVE, SAY, FROM INFORMATION FROM THE CITY COMMISSIONER, THAT DISTRICT? WHAT DO THEY EXPECT TO ONLY RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM THE CITY? SO THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT TO HEAR FROM VERSUS WHAT WE FEEL WE NEED TO PUT OUT. SO THAT'S MY TWO CENTS A GALLON. YEAH, SO I THINK I THINK WHAT THAT REQUIRES, LIKE LIKE I USUALLY DON'T POST WHAT THE CITY POSTS AND I USED TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, I WAS. SOMETIMES I DON'T LIKE SOME OF THE FLIERS THAT THE CITY MAKES, I'LL TAKE SOME INFORMATION AND CREATE MY OWN FLIER, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME HIGHER EDITING STANDARDS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN COORDINATE. SO IF THE CITY IS GOING TO ISSUE A FLIER OR THE CITY CAN SAY, LOOK, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ISSUE THIS FLIER, WE'RE DOING IT, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO YOU, AND WE WANT YOU TO ALL POST IT ON YOUR NEXT DOOR ACCOUNTS. BUT AGAIN, WE ASK AS VICE MAYOR, BUT A LOT OF US SAID WE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE DISTRICTS, WE THOUGHT WE REPRESENT THE ENTIRE CITY O TAMARACK. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US WANT TO BE MORE KNOWN THAN OTHERS. BUT AGAIN, COMMISSIONER BOLTON OR ANYBODY ELSE HAS TO MAKE TWO STEPS IF THEY WANT TO SEND SOMETHING CITY. SO IF COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS DOING SOME CHRISTMAS TO GIVE AWAY KNOCKING ON DOORS, GIVING PEOPLE PRIZES, AND HE WANTS THAT TO BE KNOWN CITY WIDE INSTEAD OF SENDING IT OUT HIMSELF, HE HAS TO GIVE IT TO CITY STAFF AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO POSTAL. SO WE TALKING ABOUT OVERBURDENING STAFF. THAT'S WE'LL TAKE OUR BURDEN AWAY FROM STAFF. SECONDLY, AGAIN, THE CITY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN MESSAGE IN TERMS OF PROMOTING CITY DEMOGRAPHICS, CITY NUMBERS, CITY CULTURAL THINGS OR WHATEVER EVENTS. AND BECAUSE COMMISSIONER BOLTON IS SO ACTIVE, HE SENT SO MUCH STUFF OUT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY IS JUST PROMOTING MARLAN. AND THAT'S THAT'S GREAT FOR HIM. HE MAY HAVE SOME HIGHER POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS LIKE STATE REP OR STATE SENATOR OR STATE GOVERNOR. WHO KNOWS? BUT THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE PROMOTING ONE COMMISSIONER OR A BUNCH OF COMMISSIONERS AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS THEY'RE DOING. SO HE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS AND EVERYONE THAT INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT HE'S DOING CAN FOLLOW HIM. BUT THE CITY SHOULD BE PROMOTING CITY STUFF LIKE ALL THE INFORMATION THEY PUT OUT. NOT EVERYONE SAYING THE CITY, ALL THEIR VIDEOS AND PHOTOS AND POSTCARDS POST THIS POST IS IT GETS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF CONTROL. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR OWN ACCOUNTS. WE POST WHAT WE WANT TO POST TO THE DISTRICT. WE POST OTHER THINGS CITYWIDE AND THEN AND THEN GOES FROM THERE. SO THERE SHOULD BE THERE SHOULD BE GUIDELINES, OF COURSE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE SIX OF THE SAME POSTS, ONE FROM THE CITY AND THEN ONE FROM THE SAME [08:15:01] POST FROM FIVE OF THE COMMISSIONERS. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T POST TO THE CITY POLLS. IF I HAVE TIME. I HAVE I HAVE A DESIRE TO RECREATE THE FLIER AND MAKE IT LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. BUT THE CITY PEIO CAN SAY, OK, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THIS OUT TO YOU GUYS. PLEASE POST THIS AT X TIME OR WITHIN THIS X TIME, THIS TIME PERIOD. BUT BUT THE RESIDENTS REALLY NEED TO HEAR MORE FROM US THAN THE CITY SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE REPRESENT THEM AND THEY TOOK THEIR TIME TO VOTE FOR US. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO HAVE OUR OWN FACEBOOK PAGES, OUR OWN WEBSITE PAGES, I BELIEVE THAT'S FOR ABOUT I THINK ALL OF YOU DO, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE POSTING AS WELL, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS BE ON THE CITY TO DO A LIMITATION TO OUR AUDIENCE ON THOSE PLATFORMS. BUT THERE IS A LIMITATION IN OUR AUDIENCE FOR NEXT DOOR AND THERE SHOULD BE NO LIMITATION. LIMITATION MIGHT ALSO COME FROM THE RESIDENTS. AS I MENTIONED, SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE THEIR EXPECTATION OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO, WHO THEY'RE GOING TO GET MATERIAL FROM ON THEIR BULLETIN. THANK YOU, MADAM, HERE, JUST TO JUST TO CLARIFY WITH COMMISSIONER GARLAND, I DON'T I DON'T POST BECAUSE I HAVE ASPIRATIONS FOR HIGHER OFFICE. AND YOU MAY. I SAID YOU MAY. CAN WE TRY TO KEEP IT? SO THAT'S RELEVANT RIGHT NOW. I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAD SOMEWHERE YOU NEEDED TO GO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON. AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER TOPIC THAT YOU WANT TO BRING. SO IF WE CAN TRY TO WRAP THIS UP, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE NINE THIRTY. YEAH, BUT YEAH. BUT WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS LISTENING AND GIVING COMMENTS LIKE THAT ARE MADE, THAT YOU KIND OF HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM. RIGHT. SO. SO, SO, YEAH, I DON'T POST BECAUSE I HAVE HIGHER ASPIRATIONS. I POST BECAUSE I HAVE THE, THE CONTENT THAT IS THAT IS RELEVANT FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE THE THEY DESERVE TO SEE IT. I ACTUALLY HAVE A DIRECT LINE TO RESIDENTS IN THE CITY, SO I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO USE NEXT DOOR. I I'VE CREATED BY MY OWN MEANS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE SMART COMMISSIONER DOES WITH RESPECT TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR COMMENT ABOUT HAVING TO BE DOUBLE MINDED, SO TO SPEAK. IT'S NOT BEING OPEN MINDED. IT'S IT'S TRYING TO SUPPORT MY MY COLLEAGUES WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF IF SOMEBODY. IS NOT COURTEOUS THAN THAT POWER COULD ALWAYS BE TAKEN BACK, ANYTHING THAT WE VOTE HERE CAN ALWAYS BE RECONSIDERED AT A LATER TIME IF WE FEEL THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THINGS. SO I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO FLAT OUT SAY NO TO COMMISSIONER GARLAND, VICE MAYOR VILLA LOBOS, COMMISSIONER PLACK OR OR OR YOU, MAYOR? I THINK THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD. YES. EVEN YOU I THINK THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREATED FAIRLY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A LONG TIME. IF SOMEBODY NEEDS SUPPORT ON SOMETHING, JUST SUPPORT THEM. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT, THEN REALLY BACK AND JUST TRY TO FIND A COMMON GROUND FOR FOR SOMETHING. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE LIMITATIONS WITH WITH POSTING, FOR INSTANCE, IF IT'S BLACK HISTORY MONTH. RIGHT. I THINK THAT THAT THAT COULD BE A CITY FUNCTION. RIGHT. AND HAVE ALL OF OUR PICTURES ON THERE. BUT THE CITY DOES NOT DO A GOOD JOB WITH MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS KNOW THAT WE EXIST. SO THEN I HAVE TO CREATE AVENUES TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT I EXIST AND I'M WORKING FOR THEM. SO IF IF THE NEW PINOLE COMES ON AND SHE SAYS, OK, WE'RE SENDING OUT A FLIER [08:20:04] WITH ALL OF YOUR PICTURES ON IT, YOU KNOW, GREAT. THAT SOLVES THE ISSUE OF ME HAVING TO POST ABOUT BLACK HISTORY MONTH OR HAVING MY MY THINGS. I DECIDE TO DO IT WHEN IT COMES TO POSTING. AND THAT'S THE STUFF COMMISSIONER GARLAND WILL WILL RECALL THAT HE HAS HIS OWN SLR CAMERA. RIGHT. AND HE GOES AROUND AND HE TAKES PICTURES OF EVERY EVENT THAT HE GOES TO AND WHAT HE DOES WITH THOSE PICTURES. AND THAT INFORMATION IS HE PUTS IT ON HIS COMMISSION REPORT WHERE NOBODY'S WATCHING THE COMMISSION MEETING VIRTUALLY MAYBE 10 OR 15 PEOPLE. HE CHOOSES TO DO THAT. WHAT I CHOOSE TO DO IS TO POST THE CONTENT ON FACEBOOK. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO IS BEING SMARTER HERE BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY HAS THE CONTENT, BUT HE DOESN'T SEND IT TO STAFF TO GET IT TO BE POSTED. GET OUT. SO WHEN I DIDN'T HAVE AN ENGAGEMENT LIAISON THAT WOULD POST MY MY VIDEOS, I WOULD HAVE ELIáN COME INTO MY OFFICE AND USE A CELL PHONE AND AND POINTED AT ME AND I WOULD RECORD MY VIDEOS AND I WOULD AND I POSTED ON ON ON THE ON THE CHANNELS AS WELL. SOMETIMES IT IS EVEN MORE BENEFICIAL FOR ME TO POST THE ITEMS MYSELF ON MY PERSONAL CHANNELS, BECAUSE ON MY PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE I, I'M POST, I MAY POST SOMETHING AND GET TWO HUNDRED LIKES WHILE THE CITY MAY POST IT AND GET FIVE LINES. SO IT IS JUST A MATTER OF, OF VENUE. SO YEAH, I WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN BUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF. I GUESS LIKE A POLICY THAT COMES WITH IT OR SOME SORT OF SOME SORT OF RULE. SO WILL IT WILL IT BE THAT WE DO IT TONIGHT BUT COME BACK WITH RULES? LET US KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS. ACTUALLY, MY SUGGESTION IS THIS, AND THIS COULD BE DISCUSSED AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF OUR PEIO WOULD TAKE ALL THE MONTHLY HOLIDAYS, ALL THE THINGS THAT ALL THIS, AS I SAID EARLIER TODAY, THAT WE ALL CARE ABOUT, JUST LIKE WE DID FOR PROCLAMATION'S AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT' NOT THAT COMMISSIONER BOLTON THINKS THAT BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY ONE OF US ON THE COMMISSION. NOT THAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND THINKS THAT THE CARIBBEAN AMERICAN DAY AND CELEBRATION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY ONE OF US ON THIS COMMISSION OR WOMEN'S HISTORY OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO MAYBE IT BEHOOVES US TO ASK THE PEIO OR WE GIVE A LIST OF THE CALENDAR ITEMS THAT IS FOR ALL OF US AND ASPIRE TO THEN PUT. IT OUT EVERY MONTH, A CELEBRATION OR ON TIME, SO WE KNOW THEIR CALENDAR, SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING OUT CREATIVE STUFF THAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND IS GOING TO GRADE FOR HIMSELF THAT HAS THE CELEBRATION OF A DAY. SAME FOR COMMISSIONER BOLDEN OR FOR ANY OF US. AND THIS WAY, WE KNOW THAT PEIO IS PUTTING US ALL EQUALLY. AND WE'LL HAVE OUR PHOTO ON THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SEEMS TO MAKE THIS COMMISSION HAPPY TO HAVE OUR PHOTOS ON THERE AND IT'LL MAKE IT NICE AND UNIFORM. AND FOR RIGHT NOW, NOT TO WORRY ABOUT HAVING EVERYBODY POST FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES. AND ALSO WE'LL ASK SCIPIO THEN IF PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS. I GET A LOT OF COMMENTS SAYING THANK YOU FOR REPOSTING IT. I FORGOT. SO THAT'S WHAT I POST THE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT IT WAS POSTED EARLIER IN THE MONTH AND THEY DON'T COME BACK TO READ IT AGAIN. SO I POST THAT BECAUSE. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT THAT SOURCE IS STILL AVAILABLE TO THEM BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL STRUGGLING. SO THAT'S MY SUGGESTION OF HAVING THE PEIO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE MONTHLY THINGS THAT WE ALL WANT TO SUPPORT AS A COMMISSION. AND MAYBE WE CAN START GETTING TO THAT GOAL OF WHERE WE ARE ONE COMMISSION. GARLAND. THANKS SO MUCH. WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY AND CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE EVERYONE WITH FULL ACCESS TO NEXT DOOR, AND THEN WHEN THE PO COMES, THEY CAN DEVELOP GUIDELINES FOR US TO USE IT. I CAN THAT CLARIFY EMOTION THERE, EVERYTHING THAT COMMISSIONER GARLAND SAID, BUT WILL ALSO BUT HANDS SHOULD COME BACK WITH A POLICY THAT THAT REGULATES OUR BEHAVIOR ON NEXT DOOR THAT WOULD GIVE US A LIST OF DO'S AND DON'TS AND. AND THAT HE CAN WORK WITH THE WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO GIVE US A LIST OF THINGS THAT THE PEOPLE WOULD NORMALLY POST. SO WE DON'T POST THOSE THINGS. AND KEEP IN MIND, NEXT DOOR HAS A POLICY REGARDING POLITICAL ADS. SO WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO POLITICAL TYPE OF INFORMATION AND SHOULD JUST [08:25:03] BE, YOU KNOW, PICTURES OF ME, A NEW RESTAURANT OWNER GARLAND DOING ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HE DOES. SO WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE POLITICAL. SURE, AND I DIDN'T I KNOW AND I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT BEING POLITICAL, I MEAN, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN FRISHMAN WA RUNNING, YOU KNOW, SHE HAD SHE WAS POSTING EVERY SINGLE DAY. ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE'S RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND POSTING EVERY SINGLE DAY LEADING UP. SHE NEVER POSTED BEFORE, BUT SHE JUST STARTED POSTING ALL OF A SUDDEN. SO I GUESS PEOPLE CAN LOOK I GUESS PEOPLE DO THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY DO THAT. I CAN'T TELL YOU. I TIME I POSTED SOMETHING ON THAT SCORE. SO I THINK HAS IT. BUT ALSO HONS IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN HE GIVES US OUR MEMO, IT'S CLEAR BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES, JUST LIKE FACEBOOK AND ANYTHING ELSE, FROM BEING CAREFUL THAT PEOPLE DO NOT CROSS COMMENT ON IT BECAUSE IT WILL BE A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW. SO HE'LL CONDUCT RULES AND REGULATIONS AND. I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT, I GUESS WE NEED TO CALL TO A VOTE TO BE PART COMMISSIONER GARLAND. YES, MR. PACHO. MR. POLACCO. COMMISSIONER BOLTON, YES, VICE MAYOR VILLA-LOBOS, YES, AND MAYOR GOMEZ. YES. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY, SORRY. YES, THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, FIVE OF. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BEFORE WE CLOSE, I GOT MS.. THEY WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT TODAY BEING HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY. AND I DID THAT. WE'RE NOT YET IN THE MEETING, BUT I DID. BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AGAIN, OK? I DIDN'T HEAR IT. SO APOLOGIZE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE DID COVER THAT YOU WERE COMING TOGETHER. AND I WANT TO REMIND THE MAYOR THAT I HAVE AN ITEM. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME THAT I WAS LATE. YOU'RE ALWAYS LATE. THANK YOU. YES, I'LL BE QUICK. IT'S THE ITEM OF THE TAMIRA. SO THE MAYOR HESITATES. AND I LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND I REALIZED THAT OTHER CITIES DO ALLOW THEIR COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE A PAGE OR A OR A HOUSE PAGE TO GIVE A REPORT OR TO SAY WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND THAT'S THE STUFF PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE PAGES OF THE TIME GROUP WERE ALSO LOADED WITH INFORMATION, WITH SOME PROCLAMATIONS. AND THAT'S THE STUFF. AND SINCE WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC, WE HAVE NOT WE HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE PICTURES. AND THAT'S THE STUFF OF POST THAT WE ALL HAVE, SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO SAY TO THE RESIDENTS. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT IN THE TOMAGO WELL, UNTIL IT LASTS, THAT EACH COMMISSIONER HAS AT LEAST A PAGE OR A HALF PAGE TO SEND GREETINGS ON EACH ISSUE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MY COLLEAGUES FEEL ABOUT THAT. AND I SUPPORT THAT. I THINK WE'LL HAVE CONSENSUS. DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS? DO YOU SUPPORT HIM? I'VE GOT THIS NIGHTMARE. I'M FINISHING UP MAYER. SO WHEN WHEN I ASK FOR THE CONSENSUS, I WANT TO KNOW WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR A FULL PAGE FOR EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL OR A HOUSE PAGE BEFORE WE GO FOR FIRST AND HALF FULL PAGE AND A HALF PAGE. I DO THINK WE OWE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND AND HOW THAT WILL AFFECT THE PAPER. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT CAN TALK TO THIS MATTER? HI THERE. KATHLEEN IS NO LONGER THE ITEM, I DON'T KNOW. DID YOU WANT TO TAKE THE QUESTION? WELL, I MEAN, IT REALLY IS IT'S IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION, IF YOU KNOW THE MAYOR, TO I'LL ASK KATHLEEN IF SHE CAN IDENTIFY THE NUMBER OF TIMES THE MAYOR IS OUT OF PAGE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S BEEN IN EVERY ISSUE. BUT IF THE COMMISSIONER WANTS TO TAKE A PAGE THAT'S FIVE PAGES OF THE TOWN OF GRAND, IF YOU WANT A HALF A PAGE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S TWO AND A HALF. YOU TELL US I'LL TAKE A QUARTER PAGE. PAGE, I THINK A PROCESS, REALLY. [08:30:02] EVERYBODY, COME ON. I KNOW WE'RE ALMOST DONE. YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION. I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. FOR GUN IS IT'S BEEN TWICE AS LONG AS FOR THANKSGIVING, THE THANKSGIVING ONE FOR THE END OF THE YEAR, THE END OF TWENTY, NINETEEN AND LONG FOR THE BEGINNING OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE. THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS DONE. THOSE ARE THE TWO TIMES. SO IT'S NOT. EACH OF THE SIX MONTH. YEAH, BUT UNDER THIS SCENARIO, I'M ACTUALLY I'M ACTUALLY PROPOSING THAT YOU HAVE A MESSAGE ON EVERY ISSUE IF YOU WANT TO STAY WITH YOUR TWO TIMES PER YEAR ISSUE, A ONE TIME PER YEAR, YOU CAN, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT. BUT UNDER THIS SCENARIO, YOU'RE BEING TREATED AS EQUAL AS WE ARE BEING IN EVERY ISSUE. SO IF YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER OBVIOUSLY ARE IN CAHOOTS TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM OF THIS, I CAN MODIFY WHAT I WANT TO SAY. THE MAYOR GETS ONE TIME FOR THE YEAR AND EVERYBODY ELSE GETS A HALF PAGE EVERY ISSUE SO THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO, EVERYTHING NEGATIVE. ALL I KNOW IS THAT THIS THE SPIN, THE NEGATIVE. AND I ACTUALLY DON'T LIKE THAT. LOOK AT THAT. I WAS ANSWERING THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES. I HAD A MESSAGE IN THE TELEGRAMS, I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION SO. YOU STARTED SPEAKING WHEN OTHER PEOPLE WERE SPEAKING, IF THE FAIR PLAYING FIELD THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE EVERYBODY ADVANTAGE. EVERYBODY GETS A PAGE. IT'S A BIG DEAL, I THINK, PER PAGE. THAT'S IT. I THINK WHAT MORGAN WAS SAYING, YOU STARTED TO SAY ABOUT TO FINISH THAT. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE THE LENGTH OF THE PUBLICATION IS PREDICATED ON THE CONTENT AND SO ON TO ACCOUNT. WE WOULD ACCOUNT FOR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE LENGTH OF OF THE PAGES YOU GUYS WANT TO OCCUPY WITHIN THE MAGAZINE AND GOVERN OURSELVES ACCORDINGLY. REGARDING THE ADDITIONAL CONTENT, THE LENGTH OF THE MAGAZINE HAS TO DO WITH THE TOP BECAUSE OF PRINT AND ALL THAT. AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALL PREPARE THE CONTENT YOU'D LIKE US TO TO PUT IN THE MAGAZINE OR, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST GIVE US THE TOPIC AND ALL THAT. SO. MS. GOING TO WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE A LITTLE GARBLED, BUT BASICALLY IT'S ALSO CONTENT THAT HAD TO GO IN AND YOU'RE ASKING US IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS TO PREPARE THE CONTENT WE'RE GOING IN. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO NEED TO TELL US WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO COMMUNICATE. WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT UPON OURSELVES TO. THEY PUT FORTH MESSAGES FOR YOU ALL THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD GO WELL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BALTON. YES, MIGHT BE. YOUR HAND WAS RAISED OK? OK. YOU'RE MEETING SOMEONE YOU DID MEET. OK, SO JUST TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT THE TELEGRAM, THERE IS A WHOLE PAGE DEDICATED TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARD FOR THE FOR THE RESIDENCES IN EACH DISTRICT. SO THIS IS JUST AN IDEA WHEN WHEN I'M WRITING MY PAGE, I COULD MAKE REFERENCE OF, OH, AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL HOUSES IN DISTRICT ONE AND PUT THAT HOUSE ON MY PAGE AND EVERYBODY PUTS THAT HOUSE ON THEIR PAGE. THAT ELIMINATES A WHOLE PAGE. THEN WE HAVE GRAND OPENINGS IN THE GRAND OPENING WAS IN MY DISTRICT AND I ATTENDED. I CAN MOVE THAT PICTURE TO MY PAGE. THAT TAKES OUT A WHOLE PAGE. IT'S IT'S LIKE THERE'S SO MUCH THERE'S SO MUCH OVERUSED INFORMATION THAT WE COULD REALLY TELL THE STORY FROM A COMMISSIONERS' PERSPECTIVE, WHICH WHICH MAKES IT MORE INTERESTING. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE RESIDENTS LOVE TO HEAR FROM US AND THEY LOVE TO SEE US. SO IF WE PRESENT THAT MESSAGE TO THE RESIDENTS FROM US, I THINK IT'S IT'S A GREAT IDEA. SO I'M ON BOARD WITH WHAT VICE MAYOR VILLARAIGOSA SAYS ONE PAGE AND WE CAN TAKE AND THEN STAFF CAN SUGGEST EACH ISSUE SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, THERE IS [08:35:06] SOME NEWS ABOUT DISTRICT ONE, THIS BEAUTIFICATION. THERE'S THIS THERE'S THAT. WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO PUT IT IN ON YOUR PAGE? AND I'M SURE PEOPLE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO PUTTING IT ON ON THE PAGE. AND OF COURSE, I WILL WRITE MY OWN CONTENT. MY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON WILL HELP ME TO TO WRITE STUFF AND SO ON. AND WE GO FROM THERE. SO CAN WE VOTE ON ONE PAGE, BECAUSE I REALLY HAVE TO GO, I CAN DO A ONE PAGE OF TIME, A GRAM PER COMMISSIONER AND DIRECTION FROM CITY STAFF. SO SOMEONE AT THE COMMISSION, THE. YOU SAID COMMISSIONERS, YOU MEAN THE COMMISSION, CORRECT COMMISSION. YES, YOU'VE GOT BACK TO THEM AS YOU THINK I AM. YES. THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL ERAL. SURE. VICE MAYOR. I MEAN, VICE MAYOR. YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER POLACCO. YES. MR. BOLTON. YES. MR. GARLAND. YES. AMERICA MS.. YES. GREAT. IF THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FIVE TO ZERO NOW THAT THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, IT IS SEVEN 10 P.M.. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY STAFF, FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR BEING HERE SINCE NINE THIRTY. NOW, EVERYONE I KNOW, I'M OUT OF HERE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.