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GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

[A. Call to Order]

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WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING.

IT IS NOW 9:05 A.M.

ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 2ND.

SORRY ABOUT THAT, AM I DOING SOMETHING? OK.

ALL RIGHT, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, IT IS 9:06 A.M.

ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 2ND, 2020.

TO PROMOTE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND AVOID THE RISK OF ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY SPREAD OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND OR COVID-19.

THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING BOARD, ALTHOUGH OPEN TO PHYSICAL ATTENDANCE BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WILL BE LIMITED, IT WILL BE LIMITED TO CONSISTENT WITH THE CDC GUIDELINES EXCUSE ME.

THE LIVE WEB CAST OF THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING IS AVAILABLE TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE REGISTRATION.

THEREFORE, FOR YOUR SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF OTHERS IT'S STRONGLY RECOMMENDED THAT YOU USE THE VARIOUS VIEWING OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO VIEW THE MEETING.

THE CITY OF TAMARAC STREAMS LIVES MEETINGS ON THE CITY'S FACEBOOK LIVE PAGE.

THE CITY ALSO STREAMS MEETINGS LIVE ON ITS WEB SITE.

TO VIEW THE MEETING LIVE ON THE CITY OF TAMARAC WEB SITE, PLEASE VISIT WWW.TAMARAC .

ORG/CITYCOMMISSIONSMEETING.

YOU MAY SUBMIT COMMENTS BY EMAIL.

THE COMMENTS NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD AT TAMARAC.ORG.

ALL COMMENTS SUBMITTED BY EMAIL IF PLAYED OR READ ORALLY INTO THE RECORD WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.

ALL COMMENTS SUBMITTED BY EMAIL SHALL BE MADE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.

AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

[C. Roll Call]

OK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO STAND.

[B. Pledge of Allegiance]

WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[D. Procedures for this Meeting]

I'D LIKE TO AGAIN REITERATE AND REMIND THE BOARD STAFF AND THE PUBLIC THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR WATCHING AS WELL AS PARTICIPATING IN THE MEETING, THIS MEETING, AGAIN, IS GOING TO BE STREAMED LIVE VIA THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE, AS WELL AS ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE.

AGAIN, I'LL REITERATE THE EMAIL EXCUSE ME, THE WEB ADDRESS.

IT'S WWW.TAMARAC.ORG/COMMISSION.

I'M GOING TO START AGAIN, THE WEBSITE IS WWW.TAMARAC.ORG/CITYCOMMISSI ONSMEETING.

COMMENTS MAYBE EMAILED TO PLANNINGBOARD@TAMARAC.ORG.

AND WE WILL HEAR YOUR COMMENTS TODAY DURING THIS MEETING.

[E. Approval of Minutes]

I'D LIKE TO CALL A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 4TH, 2020.

MADAM CHAIR? YES, SO MOVED.

DO YOU NEED A SECOND? OH, OK.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

OK, THANK YOU.

I COLLETTE AND WHOEVER IS DOING THE SOUND MR. GUTTENTAG I WAS TRYING TO SPEAK AND WE DIDN'T HEAR HIM, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HEAR HIM GOING FORWARD.

SO CITY CLERK COLLETTE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

OK.

NIKOLE CLEARE? APPROVED.

CESAR SASTRE? YES.

ERIC GNAGE? YES.

ALBERT GUTTENTAG? YEAH, HE'S THERE, BUT HE'S SPEAKING, BUT WE JUST CAN'T HEAR HIM.

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CAN'T HEAR HIM.

MOTION TO APPROVE PLANNING BOARD MINUTE MEETING MINUTES PASSED.

MOVED BY CESAR SASTRE, SECONDED BY ERIC GNAGE.

I WANT TO TURN THIS OVER TO CITY ATTORNEY.

BEFORE YOU DO, ARE THERE ANY BOARD DISCLOSURES BEFORE I GET INTO THE PROCEDURES FOR THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS? ARE THERE ANY DISCLOSURES FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? I DON'T HAVE ANY.

ALL RIGHT.

NOT HERE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING.

FOR THE RECORD, QUENTIN MORGAN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

I WILL GO OVER VERY BRIEFLY THE STATEMENT OF QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS, WHICH WE WILL BE FOLLOWING HERE TODAY FOR THE MEETING.

FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE APPLICANTS.

THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD ARE VOLUNTEERS OF THE CITY.

THEY ARE NOT PAID.

THEY ARE HERE TO SERVE YOU AS TRUE PUBLIC SERVANTS.

THE BOARD IS HERE TO HEAR AND DECIDE APPLICATIONS PRESENTED TO THEM BY THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANTS.

THE BOARD IS NOT AUTHORIZED TO CHANGE THE CITY'S CODE, BUT ONLY TO HEAR THE APPLICATIONS TO SEE IF THEY FIT WITHIN THE CITY'S CODE.

ONLY THE CITY COMMISSION IS AUTHORIZED TO DO THAT.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE HEARING AND TESTIMONY, THEY WILL MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED HERE TODAY OF WHETHER ITS WITNESSES OR DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE.

THE WITNESSES WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES IF THEY ARE PART OF THE PUBLIC.

FOR THE APPLICANT AND THE AFFECTED PARTIES THAT WE HAVE REGISTERED HERE TODAY, THEY WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PRESENTATIONS THAT THEY BELIEVE WILL PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THESE HEARINGS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL, AS I SAID.

THAT MEANS THAT PRIOR TO ANY TESTIMONY BEING HEARD, THE WITNESSES AND THE APPLICANTS WILL BE PLACED UNDER OATH.

I WILL DO THE SWEARING IN AT THE CONCLUSION OF MY REMARKS AND THE CITY STAFF WHO PLAN TO PRESENT THE APPLICANTS AND THE WITNESSES WHO ARE PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT OR THIS AFTERNOON WILL BE SWORN IN.

THE ORDER OF BUSINESS TODAY WILL BE THE CITY WILL PRESENT ITS CASE, THEN THE APPLICANTS WILL PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THEN IF THERE ARE ANY AFFECTED PARTIES, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO PRESENT THEIR CASE AND THEN THE MEETING WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY TESTIMONY THEY MAY HAVE.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT, THE BOARD WILL DELIBERATE AND MAKE A DECISION AND THEN THE DECISION WILL CARRY FORWARD AND THE ORDER WILL BE PUT INTO PLACE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

OK, FOR THE QUASI JUDICIAL ITEM, WHICH IS WHICH IS JUST THE SECOND ITEM, THE FIRST ITEM IS NOT IT'S JUST A REGULAR PUBLIC HEARING.

IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THE SECOND ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN.

SECOND AND THIRD, THEY'RE THE SAME PROJECT WITH DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.

YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

ALL RIGHT, YOU MAY BE SEATED.

AND WHEN YOU COME TO GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION, PLEASE STATE WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN CASE SOMEBODY WAS MISSED.

AND WE CAN SWEAR THEM IN AT THAT TIME.

MADAME CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS TIME? OK, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ALONG TO NEW BUSINESS.

[F.2. TBO-41 - Comprehensive Sign Plan – Tamarac Village Commercial and Monument Signage]

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE TAMARAC VILLAGE COMMERCIAL AND MONUMENT SIGN, THE COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN CASE NUMBER 1CP-20.

THAT LOCATION IS.

HI, HELLO.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THE TAMARAC VILLAGE, WHICH IS LOCATED BETWEEN PINE ISLAND ROAD AND NORTHWEST NINETY FOURTH AVENUE, NORTH OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NORTHWEST 57TH STREET.

THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE IS SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE

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TAMARAC VILLAGE, WHICH IS THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND NORTHWEST NINETY FIRST AVENUE.

THE MONUMENT SIGN.

WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS PROJECT IS ON EITHER SIDE OF NORTHWEST 91ST AVENUE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TENANT AND DIRECTIONAL SIGNS.

OK, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY, WE HAVE FROM THE CITY, ANY COMMENTS, PRESENTATION? YES, I'M SORRY.

GOOD MORNING, FRANK ZICKAR, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

IF I COULD GET THE POWERPOINT PLEASE.

OK, NEXT SLIDE.

ALL RIGHT, SE CREATIVE GROUP DBA SE SIGN COMPANY, DESIGNATED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TAMARAC LAND, TR ALLEN, J PAUL AND APPROVAL OF A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN TO ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE MAIN MONUMENT ENTRY SIGN, FUTURE COMMERCIAL TENANT SIGNS AND DIRECTIONAL SIGNS FOR THE ONGOING TAMARAC VILLAGE PROJECT, NEXT.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS TAMARAC VILLAGE, IS LOCATED BETWEEN PINE ISLAND ROAD AND NORTHWEST 94TH AVENUE, NORTH OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF NORTHWEST 67TH STREET.

THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE IS SPECIFICALLY LOCATED AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO TAMARAC VILLAGE, WHICH IS THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD IN NORTHWEST 91ST AVENUE, WHICH IS INDICATED WITH THE YELLOW ARROW IN THE GRAPHIC.

AND THAT'S FOR THE MONUMENT SIGN, ALSO WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS PROJECT ON EITHER SIDE OF NORTHWEST 91ST AVENUE OR FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TENANT AND DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, WHICH IS INDICATED IN THE GREEN ARROWS IN THE GRAPH.

THE PROPERTY HAS A CURRENT CITY OF TAMARAC FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF LOCAL ACTIVITY CENTER AND A ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

NEXT SLIDE.

TAMARAC VILLAGE IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AS Y'ALL KNOW, INVOLVED IN BOTH PHASE ONE AND TWO OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES ALL THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, THAT INCLUDES THE 13 RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, PLUS THE CLUBHOUSE BUILDING, THE NORTH WEST 57 STREET AND NORTHWEST 91ST AVENUE STREETSCAPES, AND THE CITY PARK, WHICH IS UNDER PLAN REVIEW CURRENTLY.

PHASE THREE OF THIS PROJECT INVOLVES THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMMERCIAL AREA, AGAIN LOCATED ON BOTH SIDES OF NORTHWEST 91ST AVENUE, PROMPTING THE COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN FOR THIS PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

SO SECTION 10-4.10C ENTITLED COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN STATES THAT A MULTITENANT COMMERCIAL AND OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT MAY SUBMIT A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN THAT ESTABLISHES A COORDINATED APPROACH TO SITE SIGNAGE.

COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLANS SHALL PROVIDE SPECIFIC SPECIFICATIONS REGARDING SIGNAGE, INCLUDING THE TYPE OF SIGN MATERIALS USED, ILLUMINATION METHOD, COLORS, DIMENSIONS AND THE LOCATION OF THE SIGNS.

THE DEVELOPMENTS UTILIZING THIS APPLICATION MAY PROPOSE VARIATIONS FROM THE CITY'S SIGN STANDARDS THAT ADDRESS SIGN SIZE.

NUMBER OF SIGNS ALLOWED, VARIATIONS OF UP 10 PERCENT FROM THE GENERAL REQUIRED MAY BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

HOWEVER, VARIATIONS ABOVE 10 PERCENT MUST BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD.

THE PROPOSED MONUMENT SIGN AND DIRECTIONAL SIGNS EXCEED THE DIMENSIONS OR LOCATIONS ALLOTTED FROM THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT GO BEYOND 10 PERCENT.

ADDITIONALLY, THE LOCATIONS OF THE PROPOSED DIRECTIONAL SIGNS ARE IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS, THEREFORE REQUIRING APPROVAL BY THE CITY'S PLANNING BOARD.

THE PROPOSED INDIVIDUAL TENANT SIGNS DO COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO FOR THE FIRST SIGN THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS THE MONUMENT SIGN.

SO THIS PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE MONUMENT IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD IN NORTHWEST 91ST AVENUE.

THE LOCATION IS INDICATED BY THE RED A1 BOX IN THE GRAPHIC BEFORE YOU.

IT'S A PROPOSAL TO PLACE ONE DOUBLE SIDED FREE MONUMENT SIGN IDENTIFYING THE AREA AS TAMARAC VILLAGE, AS WELL AS ALLOWING SIX INDIVIDUAL TENANT NAMES TO BE PLACED ON THE SIGN FACES.

THE OVERALL STRUCTURE OF THE SIZE OF THE SIGN IS ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SEVEN INCHES WIDE BY SEVENTY SEVEN AND A HALF INCHES TALL AND THIRTY SIX INCHES DEEP.

THE SIGN COPY IS A HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO INCHES WIDE BY FORTY SEVEN AND A LITTLE INCHES TALL AND TWENTY FOUR INCHES DEEP.

IT'S A FABRICATED ALUMINUM SIGN STRUCTURE.

THE SIGN TO BE STENCIL CUT WITH THREE QUARTER INCH WHITE PUSHED THROUGH ACRYLIC COPY.

IT WILL BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED WITH LED MODULES GREYSTONE VENEER AS ACCENT DECORATION FOR VERTICAL PILLAR AND HORIZONTAL BASE PAINTED AS PER PLANS AND WHAT YOU SEE IN THE SLIDE BEFORE YOU.

ANCHOR TO THE CROWN USING STEEL POLE SPECIFICATIONS TO DETERMINE WHEN THE ENGINEER REVIEW AND CALCULATIONS.

SO THIS SIGN EXCEEDS THE CODE REQUIREMENT BY OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE NECESSITATING THIS APPLICATION.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE NEXT SIGNS WE'LL TALK ABOUT ARE THE 10 FAÃ♪ADE SIGNS.

THESE ARE WILL BE PLACED ON THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, THEY'LL BE PLACED ABOVE EACH

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COMMERCIAL TENANT STORE FRONT AS TYPICALLY DONE FOR ANY COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE GRAPHIC, THE TENANT SIGNS SHALL BE THREE INCH DEEP ILLUMINATED REVERSE CHANNEL LETTERS WITH A MAXIMUM LETTER HEIGHT OF 18 INCHES.

SIGN WIDTH IS NOT TO BE EXCEEDED 70 PERCENT FOR ANY STOREFRONT, WHICH IS CODE.

LETTERS TO BE ALUMINUM CONSTRUCTION.

LOGOS MAY BE ALLOWED WITH WRITTEN LANDLORD CONSENT, THE LOGOS WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS A FRONT AND BACK CHANNEL LETTER WITH VINYL COATED OVERLAY ON A WHITE ACRYLIC FACE WITH BLACK RETURNS AND BLACK SIGNS ARE TO BE PAINTED ALL SIGNS ARE TO BE INSTALLED, CENTERED HORIZONTALLY VERTICALLY ALONG THE TENETS SIGN BAND.

THE REQUIRED FONT IS TO ELICIT AS BRANDON GROTESQUE BOLD.

UNLESS THE TENANT CAN PROVIDE AN ACTIVE FEDERALLY REGISTERED TRADEMARK WHICH WILL SUPERSEDE COLOR AND FONT RESTRICTIONS.

ALL SIGNS ARE TO BE MOUNTED USING ONE POINT FIVE STANDUPS ON THE SIDE TO THE BACK OF THE LETTER WITH APPROPRIATE FASTENING SYSTEMS AS OUTLINED BY THE SCHEDULE.

THE SAME CRITERIA FOR THE ABOVE WILL BE UTILIZED FOR ALL THREE BUILDINGS, WHICH IN FRONT OF YOU ARE EXAMPLES OF BUILDING IN ONE AND TWO AND HOW THOSE SIGNS WILL BE PLACED ON THE BUILDING.

AND THIS ACTUALLY MEETS CODE.

THESE SIGNS PROPOSED, BUT WE INCLUDED IT INTO THE OVERALL APPLICATION FOR CONTINUITY.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS TO INCLUDE THE FUTURE OPTION TO UTILIZE IT, I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR NON ILLUMINATED DIRECTIONAL SIGNS FOR VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN INFORMATION.

EXACT PLACEMENT LOCATIONS TO BE DETERMINE AS A DEVELOPMENT PROGRESSES.

THERE'S TWO OPTIONS.

SO OPTION A IS OVERALL STRUCTURE IS 34 INCHES WIDE BY 36 INCHES TALL.

THE SIGN COPY IS 30 INCHES WIDE BY 26 INCHES TALL.

IT'S AN ALUMINUM CONSTRUCTION SIGN STRUCTURE AND IT HAS A GRAY STONE VENEER TO BE APPLIED TO THE SIX INCHES BASE.

AND THEN OPTION B, THE OVERALL STRUCTURE IS 24 INCHES WIDE AND 36 INCHES TALL.

IT'S A LITTLE SMALLER.

THE SIGN COPY AGAIN IS 30 INCHES WIDE.

IT'S ALUMINUM CONSTRUCTION SIGN STRUCTURE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO IN CONCLUSION, THE ITEM SUPPORTS GOAL FIVE OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC'S 2040 STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS TAMARAC IS VIBRANT.

THE APPLICATION ALSO SUPPORTS POLICY 1.4 THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC.

ITS STATES THAT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PARTNER WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW LAND USE, PLANNING AND ZONING AMENDMENTS, SITE PLANS AND PLAT APPROVAL REQUEST FOR COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT LAND USE, AS IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN ESTABLISHES A COORDINATED APPROACH TO THE PROJECT SIGNAGE.

THEREFORE, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVE THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE TO ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE MAIN MONUMENT ENTRY SIGN, FUTURE COMMERCIAL TENANT SIGNS AND DIRECTIONAL SIGNS FOR THIS ONGOING PROJECT WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WHICH IS THAT ALL SIGNAGE WILL BE SUBMITTED VIA APPLICATION TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO RECEIVE APPROVAL FROM ALL REQUIRED DISCIPLINES AND LOCATIONS OF ALL SIGNAGE WILL ENSURE THAT SITE VISIBILITY STANDARDS ARE FOLLOWED TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THE APPLICANT REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ALSO HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR HIM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THE APPLICANT.

DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS MORNING? I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE HAS SIGNED UP AS AN AFFECTED PARTY.

THAT'S THE OTHER APPLICATION.

OK, THAT'S THE NEXT TWO CASES.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

OK.

NO PROBLEM.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

WELL, EXCUSE ME.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR.

YES, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

SURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO GO OVER FOR MY CLARITY.

WHY DO THEY? WHY DOES THE APPLICANT NEED MORE THAN 10 PERCENT? AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CERTAIN GUIDELINES HERE, AND IF YOU GO OVER 10 PERCENT, IT CAN BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.

IF YOU NEED ANOTHER 10 PERCENT, THEN YOU NEED TO COME TO US.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK IS, HOW BIG IS THIS THING GOING TO BE? I'M NOT SAYING I'M OPPOSED TO IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BETTER.

SURE.

SO.

SO THE MONUMENT SIGN, THE ALLOWABLE MONUMENT, SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE PER CODE IS 42 SQUARE FOOT, WHICH WOULD BE A SIX FOOT BY SEVEN FOOT, SIX FOOT TALL BY SEVEN FOOT WIDE SIGN.

THEY'RE DOING THEY'RE PROPOSING A SIX FOOT BY 15 FOOT WIDE SIGN.

SO THEY'RE KIND OF DOUBLING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEYOND CODE.

THE PLACEMENT AND THE NUMBER OF MONUMENT SIGNS MEETS CODE, ALSO THE HEIGHT MEETS

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CODE.

AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL TENANT NAMES PER CODE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY LARGE PROJECT, AS YOU KNOW.

SO WE FEEL THAT THE GREATER SIZE OF THE SIZE IS IN SCALE WITH THE PROJECT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY STAFF IS SUPPORTING IT.

SO, NO, I UNDERSTAND.

SO THE HEIGHT OF SIX FEET IS WHAT WE ALREADY ALLOW ANYWAY.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING FROM SEVEN FEET TO 15 FEET.

RIGHT.

IT'S A IT'S A WIDER SIGN WITH THE CODE CURRENTLY ALLOWS.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE TENANT SIGNAGE, WE JUST INCLUDED IT FOR CONTINUITY, BUT THEY MEET CODE WITH ALL THE TENANT SIGNAGE THAT'LL GO IN FRONT OF ALL THE BAYS.

THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE ACTUALLY MEETS CODE DIMENSION WISE.

IT'S JUST THAT THE CODE SAYS YOU CAN HAVE ONE DIRECTIONAL SIGN IF YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROJECT OF THREE BUILDINGS OR MORE.

THEY HAVE THE THREE BUILDINGS PROPOSED, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR MORE THAN ONE SIGN.

AND AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS SLATED TO BE A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY KIND OF MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE TYPE OF VENTURE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE RESIDENTIAL THAT COMBINES COMMERCIAL.

SO WE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDING IN ADDITIONAL DIRECTIONAL SIGNS TO HELP PEDESTRIANS MAYBE MAKE THEIR WAY THROUGH THE SITE.

IT'S GOING TO BE APPROPRIATE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

OK.

LET ME COME BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TENANTS, BUT DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN TAMARAC THAT'S ANYTHING CLOSE TO THE SIZE? WELL, WE HAVE.

YOU MEAN AS FAR AS THE MONUMENT SIGNAGE WE DO.

YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, SIGNS WERE PUT IN A MUCH LARGER RATE THAN WHAT THE CODE ALLOWS CURRENTLY.

THOSE ARE LIKE LEGAL NONCONFORMING SIGNS.

SO LARGE MONUMENT SIGNS DO EXIST.

DIFFERENCES IN THE QUALITY AND THE LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE OLDER SIGNS THAT ARE VERY BIG, BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, CABINET SIGNS WITH THE WHOLE THING, LOGOS AND ALL OF THAT.

AND THEY'RE NOT VERY ATTRACTIVE.

THIS IS A HIGHLY DESIGNED SIGN THAT WILL LOOK, YOU KNOW, VERY SMART WE FEEL AND LOOK REALLY WELL WITH THE PROJECT NO, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'D BE VERY NICE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT TENANTS FOR A SECOND.

HOW MANY TENANTS CAN GO IN UNDER THIS ONE SIGN? YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? WELL, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS GO UP, THEY'LL BE A USER FOR EACH TENANT BAY.

THEY WOULD GET THEIR ONE SIGN ABOVE THEIR STOREFRONT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING ADDITIONAL BEYOND THAT.

I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THEM COMING BACK AT A LATER DATE SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WANT MORE TENANTS.

WE NEED A BIGGER SIGN AND HAVING TO REVISIT THIS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.

IT SOUNDS TO ME IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE WON'T HAVE TO EVER DO THAT.

THIS WILL BE.

NO, I DON'T.

WE DON'T I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR THE TENANT SIGN IS TYPICAL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

SO THIS SIGNAGE WILL PROBABLY BE ENOUGH.

YES.

FOR THE TENANTS.

EACH TENANT THAT GOES IN WILL GET THERE ONE SIGN ABOVE THE STOREFRONT, JUST LIKE THEY WOULD IN ANY OTHER SHOPPING CENTER AND MULTITENANT BUILDING.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD? IS IT STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING WITH REGARD TO THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS THAT THE SINCE THERE'S TWO OPTIONS, THAT IT WOULD BE EITHER OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO OR SOME COMBINATION OF THEM USED? YEAH, I ANTICIPATE IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE'LL GET THAT MORE DEFINED BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH BUILDING PERMITS.

SO WE'LL SEE THE EXACT LOCATION AND TYPE OF SIGN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROPOSE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

LIKE I SAID, WE FEEL THAT MORE THAN ONE IS WARRANTED IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE LARGE SCALE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FEEL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE CITY PARK AND THE COMMERCIAL, ALL THAT KIND OF IN A MIXED USE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD? OK.

ALL RIGHT, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

EXCUSE ME.

I APOLOGIZE.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS TIME? YES.

DO YOU MIND COMING TO THE PODIUM SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING.

PRESS THE BUTTON TO THE RIGHT WITH THE HEAD AND THE.

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DOES HE HAVE THE SAME THING AS WE? NO, IT'S ON THE IT'S THAT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS NICK, I'M PRESIDENT OF SOUTHEAST CREATIVE GROUP, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PROJECT HERE.

THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE REGARDING THE MONUMENT SIGN TO BRING UP MR. SASTRE'S POINT HERE, THE SIGN IS LARGER THAN WHAT CODE ALLOWS.

HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO ALSO JUST TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT THE ACTUAL SIGN COPY, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE ACTUAL COPY OF THE SIGN, IT'S THIRTY FOUR SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS LESS THAN WHAT THE CODE MINIMUM IS.

SO REALLY THE SCALE OF THIS IS WE'RE GOING OVER CODE BY THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES IN THE ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN CONTINUITY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING AND ALSO JUST ADD, YOU KNOW, A BEAUTIFUL ELEMENT TO THE PLAZA.

SO I JUST WANT TO ILLUSTRATE THAT, THAT THE ACTUAL SIGN COPY ITSELF WILL BE LESS THAN WHAT CODE IS.

OK, THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR? YES? WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET ME GO AHEAD AND MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.

BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS MOVE TO APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN FOR TAMARAC VILLAGE TO ALLOW FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE MAIN MONUMENT PER THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

OK, NIKOLE CLEARE? YES.

CESAR SASTRE? YES.

SALAH ELROWENY? YES.

ERIC GNAGE? YES.

ALBERT GUTTENTAG? HE'S HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES AT THE MOMENT.

MOTION TO APPROVE TAMARAC VILLAGE COMMERCIAL AND MONUMENT SIGNAGE, COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN PASSED.

MOVED CESAR SASTRE SECONDED BY SALAH ELROWENY.

WONDERFUL.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THE TAMARAC EXCHANGE, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO READ ITME NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE TOGETHER, SO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR BOTH PRESENTATIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

MADAM CHAIR, CAN WE HAVE A BREAK? YES, PLEASE.

SURE.

THANKS.

FIVE MINUTES.

YEAH.

OK, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND OR BREAK.

THANK YOU.

BRING TO THE TABLE ITEM NUMBER TWO AND THREE.

[Items F.3. & F.4.]

AGAIN, THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PROJECT NAME IS TAMARAC EXCHANGE.

THIS IS A MAJOR REVISED SITE PLAN.

PETITIONER IS MALCOLM BUTTERS.

THIS IS THE DESIGNATED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, TAMARAC INDUSTRIAL VENTURE, LLC.

CASE NUMBER IS 10-SP-20.

THE LOCATION IS 6899 NORTH HIATUS ROAD, TAMARAC, FLORIDA 33321.

THE PETITIONER IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MAJOR REVISED SIGHT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR THE ADDITION OF ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN PARKING SPACES TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TAMARAC EXCHANGE CENTER DEVELOPMENT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS ALSO TAMARAC EXCHANGE.

THIS IS A VARIANCE AGAIN.

WE HAVE MICHAEL MALCOLM BUTTERS, WHO IS THE DESIGNATED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TAMARAC INDUSTRIAL VENTURE, LLC.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS CASE NUMBER 2 B AS IN BOY NUMBER 20.

THE ADDRESS IS THE SAME 6899 NORTH HIATUS ROAD IN TAMARAC, FLORIDA, 33321.

THE PETITION IS REQUESTING VARIANCE FROM SECTION 10-2.3.

WHAT ELSE IS THERE? ALSO REQUESTING VARIANCE FROM SECTION 10-4.7.

AND REQUESTING VARIANCE FROM SECTION 10-4.7.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL HAND IT OVER TO THE CITY.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

AS INTRODUCED, I WILL BE PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER ONE OR ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ITEM NUMBER THREE IN THE SAME PRESENTATION, BUT YOU WILL NEED TO MAKE SEPARATE VOTES FOR EACH.

YES, I UNDERSTAND.

OK, GOOD MORNING FOR THE RECORD, I'M ROB JOHNSON, SENIOR PLANNER COMMUNITY

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DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

MALCOLM BUTTERS DESIGNATED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, TAMARAC INDUSTRIAL VENTURE, LLC, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A MAJOR REVISED SITE PLAN TO PERMIT THE ADDITION OF ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN PARKING SPACES TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TAMARAC EXCHANGE CENTER DEVELOPMENT.

THE PRESENTATION, I DON'T THINK, MATCHES THE.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT SLIDE.

THERE WE GO.

OK.

ADDITIONALLY, MALCOLM BUTTERS DESIGNATED AGENT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, TAMARAC INDUSTRIAL VENTURE LLC, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING ZONING VARIANCE.

NUMBER ONE, A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR A MINIMUM LOT COVERAGE FOR TOTAL IMPERVIOUS AREA AND A BUSINESS PARK, BP ZONING DISTRICT OF 71.1 PERCENT IN LIEU OF 70 PERCENT AND TO ALLOW FOR A MINIMUM LANDSCAPED PERVIOUS AREA IN A BP ZONING DISTRICT OF 28.9 PERCENT IN LIEU OF 30 PERCENT.

THE SECOND VARIANCE IS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON A SITE OF 10 ACRES OR LARGER, OR TO DEVOTE A MINIMUM OF ZERO PERCENT OF THE NET SITE AREA TO AN OUTDOOR GATHERING PLACE IN LIEU OF TWO PERCENT.

THEY'RE PROPOSING THE ELIMINATION OF THE OUTDOOR GATHERING PLACE.

AND THEN NUMBER THREE IS A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR FOUR BAYS OF OFF STREET PARKING LOCATED BETWEEN THE FRONT BUILDING FAÃ♪ADE AND THE STREET IT FACES IN THE BUSINESS PARK VP ZONING DISTRICT IN LIEU OF TWO BAYS OF OFF STREET PARKING.

THOSE ARE TWO ROWS OF OFF STREET PARKING.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A VACANT PARCEL LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST MCNAB ROAD AND NORTH HIATUS ROAD AT 6899 NORTH HIATUS ROAD, THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY TWENTY TWO POINT THREE SEVEN NINE ACRES IN SIZE.

AS THE CITY OF TAMARAC FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF INDUSTRIAL AND ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF BP BUSINESS PARK.

THE PROPOSED TAMARAC EXCHANGE CENTER DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS BY THE PLANNING BOARD ON MARCH 6, 2019 TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO INDUSTRIAL SHELL WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS CONTAINING A TOTAL OF THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO SQUARE FEET.

THE APPROVED INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDING FAÃ♪ADE ELEVATIONS ARE UNCHANGED AND FEATURES TILT UP CONCRETE WALLS, PAINTED WHITE, GRAY, CHARCOAL AND BLUE IN COLOR WITH A TINTED GLASS STOREFRONT ENTRANCES WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROVIDED FOR EACH BAY AND WILL BE COVERED BY A PRE ENGINEERED METAL CANOPY WITH LOCATED ABOVE THE CANOPIES.

IMPACT RESISTANT WINDOWS AND KNOCK OUT PANELS MOCKING WINDOW LOCATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROVIDED ALONG THE BUILDING FAÃ♪ADE FRONTAGES AND GALVANIZED STEEL OVERHEAD DOORS WITH A LOUVER KNOCK OUT PANELS AND PRE ENGINEERED METAL CANOPIES WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROVIDED IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS IN THE SEMI TRAILER TRUCK LOADING AREA.

ACCESS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS MAINTAINED BY THE PLOT AT 80 FOOT INGRESS EGRESS ACCESS, OPENING ON NORTH HIATUS ROAD AND WEST MCNAB ROAD AND AN INGRESS EGRESS ACCESS OPENING ON WEST MCNAB ROAD.

THE DEVELOPMENT ALSO PROVIDES AN IMPROVED EGRESS ONLY ACCESS OPENING OF 15 FEET IN WIDTH AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR SOUTHBOUND EGRESS OF SEMI-TRAILER TRUCKS ONTO NORTH HIATUS ROAD.

SO THEY CAN MAKE A RIGHT TURN.

RIGHT ON THE NORTH HIATUS.

A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS PREPARED BY LANGAN ENGINEER AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES INC WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ESTIMATED THE NUMBER OF TRIPS GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT USING TRIP GENERATION EQUATIONS FROM THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS TRIP GENERATION MANUAL 10TH EDITION.

IT ALSO ANALYZED THE INTERSECTIONS OF WEST MCNAB ROAD AND NORTH HIATUS ROAD, WEST MCNAB ROAD AND NOB HILL ROAD AND WEST COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND NORTH HIATUS ROAD.

DURING THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON PEAK HOURS.

THE ORIGINAL ANALYSIS CONCLUDED THAT THE ROAD NETWORK CAN ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

THE ORIGINAL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE CITY'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TRAF TECH.

THE REVIEW BY TRAF TECH NOTED THAT AN ALL WAY STOP CONTROL CONDITION AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST MCNAB ROAD AND NORTH HIATUS ROAD WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROCESS THE WESTBOUND LEFT TURN VOLUMES IN THE MORNING PEAK HOURS.

IT ALSO NOTED THAT A FULL TRAFFIC CONTROL SIGNAL, A STOP IS NOT WARRANTED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST MCNAB ROAD AND NORTH HIATUS ROAD.

AS AN ALTERNATIVE OUR CITY TRAFFIC CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED A ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST MCNAB ROAD AND NORTH HIATUS ROAD.

THE APPLICANT THEN COMMITTED TO THE FULL FUNDING OF THE SURVEY, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A ROUNDABOUT AT THAT INTERSECTION.

THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A MAJOR OF REVISED PLAN TO REVISE THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN BY ADDING TWO ROWS OF PARKING BETWEEN BUILDING ONE

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AND WEST MCNAB ROAD FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR ROWS OF PARKING AND REMOVAL OF THE REQUIRED OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING ROWS.

ORIGINALLY, A TOTAL IMPERVIOUS AREA OF 68 PERCENT WAS PROVIDED WERE A MAXIMUM TOTAL PERVIOUS AREA OF 70 PERCENT IS PERMITTED, A TOTAL PERVIOUS AREA OF 32 PERCENT WAS PROVIDED WITH A MINIMUM TOTAL PERVIOUS AREA OF 30 PERCENT IS REQUIRED AND AN OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE OF 2.1 PERCENT OF THE NET SITE AREA WAS PROVIDED WHERE A MINIMUM OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE OF 2 PERCENT OF THE NET SITE AREA WAS REQUIRED.

THE OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE WAS PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED IN THE NORTHERN LANDSCAPE AREA ADJACENT TO WEST MCNAB ROAD AND SUN AND THE SUNSET POINT PARK, AND WANTS TO CONTAIN AN INFORMATIONAL KIOSK, BENCHES, RAISED PLANTERS AND LIGHTER BOLLARDS.

THE MAJOR REVISED SITE PLAN NOW PROVIDES A TOTAL IMPERVIOUS AREA OF 71.1 PERCENT, A TOTAL PERVIOUS AREA OF 78 POINT, 28.9 PERCENT, AND THE ELIMINATION OF THE REQUIRED OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE, PROMPTING THE REQUEST FOR A ZONING VARIANCE.

FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE TREES CONSISTING OF ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FOUR PALM TREES, TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE SHADE TREES AND ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY SIX SMALL TREES WILL NOW BE PLANTED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.

SHADE TREES WILL STILL BE MAINTAINED AT 30 FOOT INTERVALS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SIDEWALK SHADING.

ADDITIONALLY, SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINETY TWO SHRUBS WILL BE PLANTED.

FURTHERMORE, THE WETLAND MITIGATION AREA WILL BE MAINTAINED WITHIN ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOOT CONSERVATION EASEMENT LOCATED ALONG THE LENGTH OF THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE TO MITIGATE THE LOSS OF WETLANDS.

THE WETLAND MITIGATION AREA WILL STILL CONTAIN A MARSH AREA, OPEN WATER, SLEW, TRANSITIONAL ZONES, TREE ISLANDS AND AN UPLAND BUFFER.

THE REVISED SITE PLAN PROPOSES FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY FOUR PARKING SPACES WITH FOUR ROWS OF PARKING BETWEEN BUILDING ONE AND WEST MCNAB ROAD.

HOWEVER, NO MORE THAN TWO ROWS OF PARKING MAY BE LOCATED IN BETWEEN THE FRONT BUILDING FAÃ♪ADE AND THE STREET IT FACES, PROMPTING A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL VARIANCE.

A REVISED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS PREPARED AGAIN BY LANGEN ENGINEERING AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, DATED OCTOBER 28, 2020, WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.

THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS RE-ESTIMATED THE NUMBER OF TRIPS GENERATED BY THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT USING THE SAME TRIP GENERATION EQUATIONS AND REANALYZE THE INTERSECTIONS OF THE PREVIOUSLY ANALYZED INTERSECTIONS DURING THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON PEAK HOURS.

THE REVISED ANALYSIS WAS UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE ADDITION OF ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES DUE TO THE LEASE OF THE NORTH BUILDING BY AN E RETAILER, THE REVISED ANALYSIS CONCLUDES THAT FOLLOWING THE RESULTS FOR THE 2021 BUILD CONDITIONS, THE IMPROVEMENT OF A CITY CONSTRUCTED ROUNDABOUT AT HIATUS ROAD AND WEST MCNAB ROAD AND TH DEVELOPER MODIFICATION OF AN EXISTING MEDIAN OPENING AND NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE ON HIATUS ROAD TO PROVIDE LEFT TURN MOVEMENT FROM AND INTO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CENTER DRIVEWAY.

THE ROAD NETWORK CAN ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

THE REVISED TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS AGAIN REVIEWED BY OUR CITY'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, TRAF TECH AND OUR CITY'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT NOTED THAT THERE IS THAT THERE IS TYPICALLY NO CORRELATION BETWEEN THE TRIP GENERATION CHARACTERISTICS OF A SITE AND THE PARKING SUPPLY.

TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, PROVIDED THAT THE PROPOSED TENANT AND THEIR OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE OF A TYPICAL WAREHOUSE TENANT.

IF THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE BUILDING AREA OF THIS FACILITY, THERE SHOULD BE NO MEASURABLE CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF TRIPS GENERATED BY THE SITE.

HOWEVER, GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE INCREASED PARKING SUPPLY, IT IS STANDS TO REASON THAT THE NUMBER OF TRIPS IS LIKELY TO BE HIGHER.

AS A RESULT, IT APPEARS THAT THE METHODOLOGY PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT IS REASONABLE.

IN REGARDS TO THE UN-SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION OF WEST MCNAB ROAD AND HIATUS ROAD, THE REVIEW CONTINUES.

IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CITY OF TAMARAC IS CONSIDERING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A ROUNDABOUT AT THIS INTERSECTION.

THE OPERATIONAL CONTROL WAS EVALUATED AS PART OF THIS TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND IT HAS DETERMINED THAT ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE CAN BE ACHIEVED IN BOTH THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS.

THE PURPOSE OF A VARIANCE IS TO ALLOW FOR CERTAIN DEVIATIONS FROM STANDARDS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHEN THE LANDOWNER DEMONSTRATES THAT OWING TO SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES OR CONDITION BEYOND THE LANDOWNERS CONTROL, THE LITERAL APPLICATION OF THE STANDARDS WOULD RESULT IN UNDUE AND UNIQUE HARDSHIP TO THE LANDOWNER, AND THE DEVIATION WOULD NOT BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IDENTIFIES GENERAL VARIANCE REVIEW STANDARDS TO BE EMPLOYED, A VARIANCE SHALL ONLY BE APPROVED IF THE PLANNING BOARD REACHES EACH OF THE GENERAL VARIANCE REVIEW STANDARD CONCLUSIONS BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT, SUPPORTED BY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL AND MATERIAL EVIDENCE.

THE APPROVAL OF VARIANCE ARE SHOWN IN THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU.

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PROVIDED WITHIN THE INTEROFFICE MEMORANDUM FOR THE TAMARAC EXCHANGE CENTER ZONING VARIANCE ARE RESPONSES TO THE GENERAL VARIANCE REVIEW STANDARDS AS THEY APPLY TO THE SUBJECT PETITION.

IT IS THE OPINION OF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT THE REQUEST FOR VARIANCES REACHES EACH OF THE GENERAL VARIANCE REVIEWS STANDARD CONCLUSIONS BASED ON FINDINGS OF FACT SUPPORTED BY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL AND MATERIAL EVIDENCE.

THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUPPORTS THE PETITION BASED ON THE FACT THAT OWING TO SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE OR CONDITIONS BEYOND THE LANDOWNERS CONTROL, THE LITERAL APPLICATION OF THE STANDARDS WOULD RESULT IN UNDUE AND UNIQUE HARDSHIP ON THE LANDOWNER, AND THE DEVIATION WOULD NOT BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

THIS ITEM SUPPORTS GOAL NUMBER FOUR OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC'S 2040 STRATEGIC PLAN, TAMARAC IS VIBRANT.

THE APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR REVISED SITE PLAN WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE VACANT SUBJECT PROPERTY, THEREBY PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVITALIZE THE IMAGE, APPEARANCE AND ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THIS APPLICATION ALSO SUPPORTS POLICY ONE POINT FOUR OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMARAC COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE PUBLIC WAS INVITED TO SUBMIT COMMENTS VIA EMAIL TO THE PLANNING BOARD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROCEDURES FOR A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS CONTAINED IN THE CITY OF TAMARAC CODE OF ORDINANCES.

ONE EMAIL OF OPPOSITION WAS RECEIVED.

THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR MAJOR REVISED SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED TAMARAC EXCHANGE CENTER DEVELOPMENT AT ITS DECEMBER 2ND, 2020 MEETING WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OUTLINED IN THE MEMORANDUM.

AND THE SEVENTH CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS THAT NO TRUCK SHALL ENTER THE SUBJECT PROPERTY VIA WEST MCNAB ROAD, AND ALL TRAFFIC OF THIS NATURE SHALL ENTER FROM HIATUS ROAD.

FURTHERMORE, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVE THE ZONING VARIANCE AT THE DECEMBER 2ND, 2020 MEETING WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OUTLINED IN THE MEMORANDUM.

AND THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION.

AND I'LL ACCEPT QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT AND PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? I DON'T THINK YOUR MIKE IS ON, IS THE MIKE ON? APPLICANT.

IS IT OK IF I REMOVE THIS WHILE I'M TALKING AT THIS LOCATION, MY GLASSES GET STEAMED UP IF I DON'T.

THAT'S OK.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME SLIDES TO SHOW IF WE CAN PUT THOSE UP, PLEASE.

I ALSO HAVE HERE WITH ME THIS MORNING MALCOLM BUTTERS IS SITTING IN THE FIRST ROW, ARCHITECT FROM RLC RIGHT BEHIND HIM AND OUR ENGINEERS IN THE BACK.

AND THEN ALSO ONE OF OUR TENANTS FROM KSL ELECTRIC IS HERE AS WELL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT? PLEASE ASK ME AND I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO ROB KIND OF WALKED YOU THROUGH THE WHOLE PROJECT, INCLUDING EVERYTHING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, PLUS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE.

I'M JUST GOING TO TRY TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE, BECAUSE ALL OF THE ACCESS POINTS IN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT ARE STILL GOING TO BE DONE EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

YES, SIR.

EXCUSE ME.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

MADAM CHAIR, ARE WE LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS TOGETHER OR ARE WE BREAKING THIS DOWN INTO TWO DIFFERENT? THE PRESENTATION WAS DONE TOGETHER, HOWEVER, WE'RE GONNA VOTE SEPARATELY.

ARE YOU SPEAKING NOW ABOUT ITEM NUMBER TWO OR ARE YOU GOING TO KIND OF DO THEM TOGETHER? I'M GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION FOR TWO AND THREE TOGETHER, AS DID MR. JOHNSON.

BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOU'LL BE VOTING SEPARATELY.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO THIS PROPERTY, THESE BUILDINGS AND THIS SITE ARE ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS DRAWING, THIS IS A PICTURE THAT WAS TAKEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

YOU CAN SEE THE SITE WORK IS ALREADY UNDERWAY.

YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING LOCATIONS.

IN FACT, YOU SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROOF IS PRETTY MUCH FINISHED ON THE ONE BUILDING, BUT IT'S STILL UNDER WAY.

AND THE OTHER, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A COUPLE A COUPLE OF MONTHS OLD.

THE REASON I POINT THIS OUT IS WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

SO THERE MAY BE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING ISSUES IN THE AREA THAT HOPEFULLY WHEN WE FINISH CONSTRUCTION, THOSE ISSUES WILL BE DONE.

OBVIOUSLY, WHENEVER YOU'RE BUILDING, YOU'RE GENERATING NOISE, YOU'RE GENERATING DUST AND SO ON.

YOU TRY TO KEEP THAT DOWN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, BUT ONCE WE'RE DONE, THAT'LL GO AWAY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG TODAY THAN IT WAS THEN, BUT STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING IT TO YOU FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, DIFFERENT ANGLES YOU SEE ON THE DRAWING ON THE LEFT, MCNAB ROAD IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

THAT PARKING AREA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IS IN BETWEEN MCNAB ROAD AND THAT BUILDING RIGHT IN THAT AREA WHERE YOU SEE SOME OF THAT EARTHWORK THAT'S

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UNDERWAY.

IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING YOU A DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, DIFFERENT USERS AND BUILDINGS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE LOCATED THERE.

AND THEN YOU SEE OUR LOCATION RIGHT THERE AT MCNAB AND HIATUS JUST EAST OF THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY.

IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS WHAT THE YOU KNOW, WHAT THESE BUILDINGS WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN THEY'RE DONE.

YOU SEE OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU KNOW, TENANTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING IN.

AND THEY'RE ALSO THE ARCHITECTURE IN THE BUILDINGS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT BUTTERS HAS BUILT IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK OVER THE YEARS.

WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, JUST SHOWING THE MAIN DRIVEWAY AND COMING TOWARDS THE BUILDING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, VERY SIMILAR TO THE DRAWINGS MR. JOHNSON SHOWED EXCEPT THESE ARE IN COLORS INSTEAD OF BLACK AND WHITE FOR SOME OF THEM.

IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, AGAIN, THESE ARE THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

THE ACCESS POINTS ARE AS MR. JOHNSON SHOWED EARLIER IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THIS IS THE APPROVED PLAN.

SO THE AREA WHERE WE'RE MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT IS LOCATED NEAR THE TOP OF THIS DRAWING BETWEEN BUILDING ONE AND MCNAB ROAD.

BUT YOU WILL NOTICE THE WAY THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNED AS THE TRUCK COURT IS IN THE MIDDLE.

SO IN BETWEEN BUILDING ONE AND BUILDING TWO, WHERE YOU SEE THAT WHITE SPACE AND YOU SEE YOU CAN ACTUALLY KIND OF SEE THE IMAGES OF THE TRUCKS.

IT'S ALL IN THE MIDDLE WITH WING WALLS ALONG THE EAST AND WEST SIDE TO KEEP ALL OF THE TRUCK NOISE AND THE BEEPING WHEN THE TRUCK BACKS UP INSIDE THE MIDDLE AND NOT HAVING IT BE NEXT TO ANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS, ALL OF THAT IS STILL STAYING THE SAME.

AGAIN, THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS AT THE TOP PART OF THE DRAWING WHERE YOU SEE A DOUBLE ROW OF PARKING, WE WANT TO PUT IN ANOTHER DOUBLE ROW OF PARKING.

WE'LL SHOW THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.

ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING, NOT ONE SINGLE TREE WILL BE REMOVED AS PART OF THIS.

WE WILL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME NUMBER OF TREES, THE SAME NUMBER OF SHRUBS.

WHETHER YOU STAYED WITH THIS PLAN OR THE PROPOSED PLAN, WE'VE SIMPLY MOVED THE TREES AROUND A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE THEY FIT WITH THE EXTRA PARKING THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN.

SO THERE WILL BE NO REDUCTION IN LANDSCAPING, ALTHOUGH THE PERVIOUS AREA DOES GET REDUCED BY ONE POINT ONE PERCENT.

I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OUR ENGINEERS HAVE DONE ALL THE DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS, AND EVEN WITH THE ONE POINT ONE PERCENT REDUCTION IN PERVIOUS AREA, WE STILL MEET ALL OF THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LANDSCAPE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THAT'S NOT CHANGING.

WE'RE STILL USING ALL OF THESE SAME MATERIALS.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS JUST SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

YOU SEE, IT'S THE LAST MAJOR INDUSTRIAL PARCEL LEFT IN THE CITY, OBVIOUSLY THE LAST MAJOR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY LEFT IN THAT IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.

BUTTERS HAS BEEN BUILDING IN THIS PARK SINCE 1990.

AND SO IT JUST SHOWS, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF TENANTS WE'RE TRYING TO GET, THE SAME TYPE OF TENANTS WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED.

JUST SOME OF THIS IS REPEATING WHAT MR. JOHNSON TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

WE DID UPDATE THE TRAFFIC STUDY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL PARKING, WE WERE STILL HANDLING THE TRAFFIC PROPERLY.

WE DID A NOISE STUDY.

NOW, WHEN YOU DO THESE NOISE OR SOUND STUDIES, YOU MEASURE TWO THINGS.

YOU MEASURE THE SOUND THAT'S EXPECTED TO COME FROM THE PROPERTY, BUT YOU'LL ALSO MEASURE WHAT WE CALL THE AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON A SITE LIKE THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOUND COMING FROM THE SAWGRASS FROM HIATUS AND FROM MCNAB.

AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SOUND COMING FROM THE OPERATION OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

AS I MENTIONED, THE TRUCKS COMING IN AND THEY BEEP WHEN THEY BACK UP, THAT SORT OF THING.

IF THE SOUND FROM THE ADJACENT ROADS IS LOUDER THAN THE SOUND FROM THE SITE, YOU DON'T HEAR THE SOUND FROM THE SITE BECAUSE YOU HEAR THE SOUND FROM THE ADJACENT ROADS.

IT'S LOUDER.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS TRAFFIC STUDY THAT KIMLEY HORN DID SHOWED.

AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL.

THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT.

YOU'RE LOCATED NEXT TO A MAJOR EXPRESSWAY.

YOU'RE LOCATED NEXT TO MAJOR ROADWAYS.

AND THE TRAFFIC NOISE ON THE ROADS EXCEEDS THE EXPECTED NOISE FROM THE SITE.

IN FACT, I THINK THEY WERE SHOWING ABOUT 50 DECIBELS, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SOUND OF A RESIDENTIAL AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSOR.

WHEN IT GOES ON, IT'S NOT A LOUD SOUND AT ALL.

IN FACT, 60 IS THE MAXIMUM, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO A CONVERSATION BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT SHOUTING, BUT THAT ARE TALKING AT A NORMAL TONE OF VOICE.

AS I MENTIONED, NO REDUCTION IN TREE COUNT.

NO REDUCTION IN DRAINAGE, EVEN THOUGH THE ONE POINT ONE PERCENT SHORTER AREA IN PERVIOUS AREA, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS JUST TELLING YOU WHO'S INVOLVED IN THE PROPERTY, BUTTERS AND BLACKROCK.

BUTTERS HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1990.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER TENANTS THAT BUTTERS HAS BROUGHT IN TO THE INDUSTRIAL

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PARK OVER THE YEARS.

IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THESE ARE JUST THE LOCATIONS OF THE BUTTERS PROJECTS, IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN ONE THEY'RE COMING SOON SIGNS OR CONSTRUCTION SIGNS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT ICONIC B, IT'S A B, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE SOMETHING ELSE.

B FOR BUTTERS, WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE'LL GET INTO THE EXACT MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO AS WE MENTIONED, WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL DOUBLE ROW OF PARKING TO PUT IN AN ADDITIONAL HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN CAR PARKING SPACE.

KSL ELECTRONICS, WHICH IS IN ANOTHER PART OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK NOW WILL BE MOVING TO THE SITE.

ALSO, A MAJOR E-COMMERCE RETAILER WILL BE COMING HERE AND THEY'VE BOTH INDICATED THAT THEY NEED MORE PARKING.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PROVIDE IT FOR THEM.

WE'RE ELIMINATING THE OUTDOOR GATHERING AREA.

I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN A MINUTE.

YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THESE RULES WITH THE OUTDOOR GATHERING AREA AND THE LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF ROWS OF PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET ARE PART OF YOUR RECENT CODE REWRITE.

SO THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT THERE DO NOT HAVE THESE REQUIRED OUTDOOR GATHERING AREAS AND THEY DO NOT HAVE THE LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF ROWS OF PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S COME OUT OF THE RECENT CODE REWRITE.

WE OBVIOUSLY WE ACCOMMODATED THAT AMONG THE APPROVED SITE PLAN.

WE ARE ASKING TO CHANGE THEM.

BUT THE REASON I'M POINTING OUT THAT EVEN IF WE DO CHANGE THEM, WE WILL NOT BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK BECAUSE NEITHER NONE OF THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK HAD TO LIMIT THE PARKING TO THE TWO ROWS INSTEAD OF FOUR.

AND NONE OF THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK HAD TO DO THE OUTDOOR GATHERING AREAS.

SO WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE ADDITIONAL PARKING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE E-COMMERCE, PHARMACEUTICAL, AEROSPACE, BUT ALSO KSL ELECTRONICS, EVEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL TWO ROWS OF PARKING, WE STILL HAVE A 100 FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPED BUFFER BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND MCNAB ROAD.

SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR LANDSCAPING, PLENTY OF ROOM FOR BUFFERING, AND STILL PROVIDING A GOOD APPEARANCE ALONG MCNAB ROAD WITH THAT 100 FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

WE'VE ALL MR. JOHNSON ALREADY WENT OVER THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE REDOING OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND I AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THESE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS FORMULAS ARE BASED SOLELY ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING.

SO IF YOU INCREASE PARKING THE ITE FORMULAS, DON'T SAY THAT YOU'VE INCREASED TRAFFIC.

BUT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, I THINK THEY LOOKED AT IT ANYWAY, EVEN THOUGH THE ITE DOESN'T MEASURE IT AND SAID IF YOU'RE ADDING MORE PARKING SPACES, YOU PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE MORE CARS COMING IN AND OUT.

SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING STILL WORKS.

AND IT DOES.

WE'RE STILL HAVING THE ENTRANCES THAT WERE SHOWN.

WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT THE CORNER.

BUTTERS IS PAYING THE FULL COST OF THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.

AND WE'RE STILL DOING THAT.

IN TERMS OF THE ACCESS THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

SO THE TRAFFIC ROUTING TO AND FROM THE SAWGRASS IS STILL THE SAME AS IT WAS ON THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN.

AND ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, WE DID THE SOUND STUDY TO SHOW THAT IF YOU ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MCNAB ROAD IN YOUR HOME, YOU WILL NOT HEAR A NOISE FROM THIS SITE BECAUSE THE AMBIENT NOISE LEVELS THAT ALREADY EXIST ON MCNAB ROAD AND THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY ARE LOUDER THAN ANY NOISE WE WILL HAVE ON THE SITE.

AND THAT'S TRUE WHETHER WE ADD THESE TWO ROWS OF PARKING OR NOT.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO I KNOW I'M KIND OF GETTING AHEAD OF THIS, I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL PARKING AND THE NOISE.

THE OUTDOOR GATHERING AREA, I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE IN A MINUTE.

BUT BASICALLY, THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING IF YOU'RE IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK AND MAYBE YOU WANT TO GO OUTSIDE AND EAT LUNCH, MAYBE YOU'RE A CIGARETTE SMOKER, YOU CAN'T SMOKE IN THE BUILDING.

YOU HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE TO DO THAT.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THAT KIND OF AREA IS GENERALLY USED FOR IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, FOR A LUNCH OR A BREAK FROM WORK.

WE HAVE A CITY PARK IMMEDIATELY TO OUR WEST.

THAT IS A VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY AND EASY, EASY WALKING DISTANCE.

SO EVEN IF WE ELIMINATED THIS OUTDOOR GATHERING AREA, WE DON'T THINK THAT IT DEPRIVES PEOPLE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT BREAK OR TAKE THAT LUNCH BREAK.

AND IN FACT, IF YOU DO IT IN THE PARK, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A MORE ATTRACTIVE LOCATION ANYWAY.

I'LL SHOW YOU A GRAPHIC IN A MINUTE OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, AGAIN, THIS IS THE APPROVED SITE PLAN.

SAME THING I SHOWED EARLIER.

NOTHING DIFFERENT THERE.

IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

SO THEN THIS WOULD BE THE PROPOSED PLAN.

AND YOU'D NOTICE, OBVIOUSLY, THAT YOU HAVE THAT SECOND ROW OF PARKING NOW.

YOU NOTICE THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE ONE HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER NORTH OF THAT EXTRA

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ROW OF PARKING BETWEEN THE PARKING AND MCNAB ROAD.

YOU SEE THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE SHOWN WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO ON HIATUS.

YOU SEE THE WETLAND AREA ALONG THE WEST SIDE, THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE DRAWING.

ALL OF THAT WILL STILL BE PRESERVED JUST AS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE APPROVED PLAN.

AND AGAIN, THE ONLY CHANGE HERE IS THAT ACTUAL PARKING BETWEEN BUILDING ONE AND MCNAB ROAD, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS SHOWING YOU AND THIS ONE ACTUALLY SHOWS YOU THAT OUTDOOR GATHERING AREA.

YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED IT DIDN'T REALLY SHOW UP IN ANY OF THE PREVIOUS DRAWINGS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING AT THE TOP, THAT'S THE APPROVED PLAN.

AND YOU SEE THAT LITTLE CIRCLE THERE JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE DRIVEWAY COMING IN OFF MCNAB.

THAT WAS THE GATHERING AREA.

AND YOU NOTICE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING AT THE BOTTOM, THAT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.

BUT WE STILL HAVE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO OUR WEST.

THE PARK, THE CITY PARK THAT I MENTIONED, YOU CAN SEE LIKE THE EDGE OF THAT.

IF YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY OVER ON THE LEFT HAND EDGE OF THESE DRAWINGS, WHETHER THE TOP ONE OR THE BOTTOM ONE, YOU CAN STILL SEE IT.

AND SO IT'S VERY EASY FOR SOMEONE TO WALK FROM OUR BUILDING OVER TO THE PARK, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE NECESSARY SIDEWALKS AND SO ON.

SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO TAKE THAT LUNCH BREAK OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF BREAK, THEY CAN STILL DO IT.

YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM DRAWING, OBVIOUSLY, THE OUTDOOR GATHERING AREA IS GONE.

THE EXTRA ROW OF PARKING IS THERE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE STILL BEEN BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE EVERY SINGLE TREE WITHIN THIS 100 FOOT BUFFER AREA.

EVERY SINGLE TREE THAT WAS SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN WILL STILL BE ON THE PROPOSED PLAN.

WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS IS A VERY DETAILED TABLE SHOWING HOW THE SOUND STUDY WAS DONE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN READ THROUGH ALL THIS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE AMBIENT NOISE LEVEL FROM THE ROADS IS HIGHER THAN THE NOISE LEVEL THAT WOULD COME FROM THE SITE.

AND THEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE 50 DECIBELS AS AN AVERAGE IN THE 60 DECIBELS IS A MAXIMUM.

AND IT GIVES YOU A COMPARISON OF 50 DECIBELS, LIKE THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT, THE 60 DECIBEL AS A CONVERSATION BETWEEN TWO INDIVIDUALS AT A NORMAL TONE OF VOICE.

SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY SOUND IMPACTS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S TRUE WHETHER YOU GO WITH THE APPROVED PLAN OR THE PROPOSED I MEAN, THE PROPOSED PLAN HAS EXTRA PARKING, BUT THOSE ARE PARKING SPACES FOR REGULAR VEHICLES, REGULAR CARS AND PEDESTRIAN OR REGULAR CARS AND TRUCKS, NOT THE BIG TRUCKS WHICH ARE GOING IN THE BACK ANYWAY.

THEY'RE NOT GOING IN THAT FRONT PARKING LOT.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF DIFFERENT DECIBEL LEVELS AND WHAT THEY ARE, AND OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE ONES UP AT THE TOP WITH THE AIRPLANES AND THE POLICE AND ALL THAT.

WE'RE DOWN AT THE AT THE LOWER LEVELS, THE AIR CONDITIONER.

THE TWO PEOPLE TALKING, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE VARIANCES THEMSELVES, I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF GONE OVER THEM, BUT WE'LL DO THEM REAL QUICK ONCE AGAIN IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YOU SEE THE CODE SECTION ABOUT THE OUTDOOR GATHERING AREA, THE ROWS OF PARKING.

AND LET ME SAY ON THE ON THE ROWS OF PARKING WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THESE LIMITATIONS ON THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES OR THE NUMBER OF OR THE AREA TAKEN UP FOR PARKING SPACES BETWEEN A BUILDING AND THE ROAD.

AND MOST OF THE TIME IN OUR NEW CODES, WE LOOK AT THAT FROM A RETAIL POINT OF VIEW.

WE DON'T WANT A VERY LARGE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE STORE.

IT'S NOT OFF.

IT'S NOT SEEN AS OFTEN IN AN INDUSTRIAL SETTING LIKE THIS.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDUSTRIAL PARK THERE NOW WITH CITY FURNITURE AND A LOT OF THE OTHER USES, YOU WILL SEE MORE THAN FOUR ROWS OF PARKING IN MANY CASES.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T BELONG IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING SETTING.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'S MORE COMMON TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF RESTRICTION IN A RETAIL SETTING WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE STORE CLOSER TO THE ROAD AND NOT HAVE A BIG SEA OF PARKING IN FRONT OF IT.

IN TERMS OF THE PERVIOUS AREA, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE A ONE POINT ONE PERCENT REDUCTION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY REDUCTION IN THE DRAINAGE CAPACITY FOR THE PROPERTY.

IT WILL STILL DRAIN JUST AS WELL AS IT WOULD HAVE WITH THE EXTRA ONE POINT ONE PERCENT.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE VARIANCE CRITERIA, MR. JOHNSON WENT OVER THEM, WE PREPARED IN OUR APPLICATION AND IN THE MATERIALS AS PART OF THE BACKUP FOR YOUR ITEMS TODAY, ADDRESSING EACH ONE OF THESE CRITERIA.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE MEET EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM FOR ALL THREE OF THE VARIANCES.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE STAFF CONCURS WITH THAT ANALYSIS.

THEREFORE, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF FOR APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE VARIANCES THEMSELVES.

I CAN GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL CRITERIA, IF YOU LIKE, BUT I KNOW IT WOULD TAKE MORE TIME.

AND I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE WRITING ADDRESSES IT ADEQUATELY.

HOPEFULLY, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

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AND THESE ARE THE BALANCE OF THE CRITERIA.

SAME THING AS THE PREVIOUS, SO WE CAN GO OVER THEM IN MORE DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE US TO.

AND THEN COLLETTE, DO WE HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE AFTER THIS? OK, AGAIN, THIS IS THE SECOND VARIANCE, EACH CRITERIA ADDRESSED.

I CAN GO OVER A BIT MORE DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'LL JUST KEEP GOING.

MS. TIBBY, ONE MORE, PLEASE.

SAME THING THERE.

THOSE ARE THE LAST FOUR OF THE EIGHT CRITERIA FOR THAT PARTICULAR VARIANCE.

AND WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SAME THING HERE.

THIS IS THE ROWS OF PARKING, THE OTHER ONE WAS THE GATHERING SPACE.

AND WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

AGAIN, THE LAST THREE OF THE EIGHT, GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE ONE REGARDING THE PERVIOUS AREA.

GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

AND ONE MORE.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND AS APPROPRIATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SURE, YOUR PRESENTATION WAS VERY CONCISE AND CLEAR.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I'D BETTER PUT MY MASK BACK ON.

ALL RIGHTY.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? ACTUALLY, I SEE THAT WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP.

I'M GOING TO CALL YOUR NAME.

BUT BEFORE YOU DO, MADAM CHAIR, WE DO HAVE THE AFFECTED THAT PARTY WHO IS GIVING PARTY STATUS SO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION AS THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.

IF THEY HAVE THAT.

YES, DO WE HAVE THE AFFECTED PARTY PRESENT? DID SOMEONE SIGN UP AS AN AFFECTIVE PARTY? ]OK, SO HOLD ON ONE SECOND, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE.

HER NAME.

SHERRY LANG.

PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

SHE WASN'T SWORN IN.

I TAKE MY MASK OFF.

HI.

MS. LANG? YES? WERE YOU SWORN IN AT THE BEGINNING? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? YOU SWEAR FROM THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

I DO.

THANK YOU.

I AM AN AFFECTED PARTY AS FAR AS THIS PROJECT GOES, DUE TO THE FACT THAT I LIVE WITHIN ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET OR FOUR HUNDRED FEET FROM THE BUILDING ITSELF.

AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS ALREADY BUILT IN.

IT'S ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

THE THING IS, IS THAT I DID SUBMIT PICTURES.

I HAVE SOME PICTURES HERE THAT I CAN HOLD UP FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE.

WITH THE BUILDING.

I MEAN, IT IS AN ENORMOUS BUILDING IN CONJUNCTION TO THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE DOWN THE STREET, WHICH ARE ALSO ZONE FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

THE THING IS, IS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE THE CODE REWRITTEN.

I GUESS THE CODE HAS CHANGED SINCE THEY SUBMITTED THEIR PLANS AND THEY'RE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO THAT ARE ABOVE WHAT THE CODE ALLOWS NOW.

AND WITH THAT BEING THE PARKING, I DON'T HAVE YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO SEE THE SLIDE LIKE THEY HAVE, BUT IT'S HARD TO.

MS. LANG, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE.

YOUR INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO THE BOARD WITH THE PHOTO.

SO THEY'VE SEEN IT.

THEY SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THAT INFORMATION FROM MS. TIBBY.

OK, SO WE SEE THE BUILDING.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE PICTURE.

THIS IS OUT OUR BACK WINDOWS.

ME JUST ONE SECOND.

DO WE HAVE IT THAT WE CAN PUT ON THE SCREEN? IS THAT NO? OK.

BECAUSE I SUBMITTED IT TO FRANK AND I SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL.

I EMAILED EVERYTHING WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.

BUT ANYWAY, SO THIS IS AN ENORMOUS BUILDING.

AS YOU CAN SEE.

THIS IS OUT MY KITCHEN WINDOW AND I SEE THIS OUT OF MY LIVING ROOM WINDOW.

NOW, CAN WE ASK TO HAVE THAT? CAN YOU PUT YOUR MASK ON FIRST, PLEASE? AND THEN YOU CAN BRING IT UP TO THE.

LIKE I SAID, I DID SUBMIT ALL THIS.

PLEASE PROVIDE IT TO THE TO THE BOARD CLERK AND SHE'LL SHOW AROUND IT AROUND.

GIVE IT TO WHO? MS. TIBBY.

OK, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, SO THAT'S WHAT WE SEE NOW OUT OF THE KITCHEN WINDOW, WE SEE THIS ENORMOUS BUILDING WITH I GUESS OFFICES ARE GOING TO BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE BASICALLY LOOKING IN WHAT HAVE YOU.

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SO, I MEAN, IT'S DONE.

IT'S A BUILDING.

IT'S THERE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT NOW THEY WANT TO ADD MORE PARKING ON THAT SLIDE THAT IT HAD SLIDE 18, YOU CAN SEE, WHEREAS IT'S GOING TO BRING ALL OF THAT EVEN CLOSER TO THE ROAD AND TO OUR HOMES.

AND WITH THE NOISE FACTOR, IT'S GOING TO BE NOT JUST THE CARS, BUT THE STEREOS, THE PEOPLE COMING, GOING IF THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IN E-COMMERCE AND THEY'RE OPEN TWENTY FOUR, SEVEN.

PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT AN E-COMMERCE DOES.

THEY DON'T OPERATE DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.

YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ALREADY HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NOISE FROM THE CARS, WHICH IS PEOPLE JUST GOING UP AND DOWN MCNAB ROAD AS IT IS.

SO THAT'S WITH AS FAR AS THE PARKING GOES AND AS FAR AS REDUCING THE OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE, THAT'S THE SAME THING.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THAT IF THEY HAVE AN OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE, THAT IT'S GOING TO CREATE NOISE AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO TELL PEOPLE TO GO TO A CITY PARK.

I YOU KNOW.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT AS FAR AS REDUCING THE PERVIOUS LANDSCAPING FOR DRAINAGE, THEY SAY THAT THE DRAINAGE IS GOING TO BE THE SAME.

BUT SINCE THEY CREATED THAT WALL AND BUILT THAT WALL, WE HAVE A BIG FLOODING ISSUE IN OUR BACKYARD AS IT IS BECAUSE OF THE WALL IT'S HOLDING IN THE WATER.

AND OUR YARD IS LIKE A GOOD TWO FEET LOWER THAN MCNAB ROAD.

SO THE WATER, WHEN IT RAINS, IT JUST IS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WATER.

SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT REDUCING THE PERVIOUS LANDSCAPE.

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT COULD DO? THEY SAY IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, IF IT REALLY IS GOING TO BE THE SAME, BUT THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.

ALSO, THEY'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF TAMARAC, THEY HAVE THAT LITTLE THING.

WONDERFUL.

THEY WANT TO MAKE IT A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS.

I MOVED TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TWO YEARS AGO AND PLAN ON LIVING HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

NOW WE HAVE THIS ENORMOUS BUILDING IN OUR BACKYARD.

BUT AS FAR AS THE NOISE AND THAT TYPE OF THING, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT'S FAIR.

THEY TALK ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE POOR BUILDER, THEY NEED THIS AND THEY NEED THAT.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HOMEOWNERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS WALL? YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE HAD TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT IT WAS COMMERCIAL AND THEY HAVE THEY HAVE THE BUILDING.

BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? THE OTHER BUSINESSES DOWN THE STREET, THEY'RE NOT AS ENORMOUS.

AND THEY HAVE NINE TO FIVE BUSINESSES IN THERE.

THEY HAVE SO MANY PARKING SPOTS.

THERE ARE MUCH SMALLER SCALE.

AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO EXCESS NOISE POSSIBLY AT NIGHT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, BUT.

LIKE I SAID, I LIVE ON I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT WALL.

THANK YOU, MS. LANG.

THANK YOU.

MS. LANG BEFORE YOU BEFORE YOU GO, GO SIT, YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF OR APPLICANT ON ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE PRESENTED AS AN AFFECTED PARTY, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

HAVE ANY OF YOU DRIVEN DOWN THE ROAD, MCNAB ROAD AND SEEN THIS BUILDING IN PERSON? I HAVEN'T YET.

OK.

NOT RECENTLY.

JUST SO YOU COULD SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW CLOSE EVERYTHING LITERALLY IS TO MAKE MCNAB ROAD.

AS FAR AS PUTTING IN MORE PARKING AND DOING THAT TYPE OF THING, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE YOUR ADDRESS HERE MS. LANG.

BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF IN RELATION TO MCNAB AND HIATUS, WHAT SIDE OF THE NORTHWEST, SOUTHWEST, NORTHEAST, SOUTHEAST, WHAT SIDE OF THE QUADRANT DO YOU LIVE IN, THAT YOU? I'M LITERALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WHERE THEY ARE, WHERE THEY ARE PUTTING IN THE THEY HAVE ANOTHER DRIVEWAY THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN HERE.

I HAVE A PICTURE HERE.

I CAN GIVE YOU.

THIS I CAN GIVE HER THIS.

I CIRCLED MY HOUSE IS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND.

PLEASE HAND IT TO MS. TIBBY.

ALSO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, YOU CAN DO THAT AND THEY ALSO CAN INQUIRE INTO YOU IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

DO YOU?

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NO, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY TO THE CITY STAFF IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS FAR AS THE CODE GOES, IF THE CODE IS WHAT THE CODE IS, I DON'T SEE WHY THEY SHOULD HAVE SPECIAL TREATMENT TO BE ABLE TO GO ABOVE WHAT THE CODE SAYS JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO DO IT IN THE PAST AND OTHER OTHER BUILDERS DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE IT WAS IN CODE THEN.

BUT IT'S CODE NOW WHY THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO REVERT BACK TO THAT.

UNDERSTOOD.

IF YOU HAVE ANY HAVE YOU STILL HAVE TIME, IF YOU NEED ANY ADDITIONAL TIME TO RAISE ANY ADDITIONAL POINTS BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN, MAKE SURE YOU GOT EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO GET OUT.

I THINK THAT'S ABOUT EVERYTHING.

OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE HEARING COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE GINETTE HELLER.

ARE YOU HERE MS. HELLER? PLEASE.

THESE COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO THE 3 MINUTES.

YES, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.

I WILL, GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS GINETTE HELLER.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ISLES OF TAMARAC.

WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS REQUEST.

I LIVE AT 10401 NW 70TH COURT.

I AM HERE TO ALSO REPRESENT THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I WISH TO EXPRESS OUR OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST THAT IS BEING MADE TO ADD THE ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN PARKING SPACES AND ALSO MINIMIZING THE LANDSCAPING WITH THE CONDUCTING OF THE E-COMMERCE BUSINESS 24/7.

IT IS OUR OPINION THAT THE NOISE LEVEL WILL INCREASE, THAT THE TRAFFIC WILL INCREASE.

AND I AM A REALTOR AND IN MY OPINION, THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THOSE HOMES THAT ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THOSE PRICES WILL NOT INCREASE.

THEY WILL DECREASE.

THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TRAFFIC AND ALL OF THE THE CARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE SEEN FROM THE BACKYARD.

THESE HOMES ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS PROJECT.

IT'S NOT LIKE SOME BIG, MAJOR HIGHWAY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A SMALL ROAD.

SO IT'S REALLY GOING TO IMPACT ALL OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS SITE.

THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE REGARDING THE SURVEY THAT WAS CONDUCTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT NOISE ALREADY EXISTS FROM THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY.

TO ME, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY LOGICAL SENSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN MORE CARS COMING AND GOING AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE NOISE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, OF COURSE, THAT'S GOING TO ADD TO THE NOISE LEVEL.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE OTHER HOMEOWNERS BELIEVE AS WELL.

LET'S SEE.

SO I AM ASKING THE BOARD TO PLEASE CONSIDER OUR HOMEOWNERS' CONCERNS AND TO DENY THE REQUEST OF THE ADDITIONAL HUNDRED AND FORT SEVEN PARKING SPACES IN LIGHT OF OUR CONCERNS AND ALSO IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO POSTPONE THE DECISION THAT'S GOING TO BE MADE TO APPROVE THIS.

SO THAT ALL OF YOU.

I'M SORRY.

SO THAT ALL OF YOUR BOARD MEMBERS CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE THERE AND SEE JUST EXACTLY HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THOSE HOMES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT I HAVE TODAY.

AND I HAVE A COUPLE MORE HOMEOWNERS HERE THAT HAVE ALSO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND I WILL GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO DO SO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AGAIN, FROM THE PUBLIC, MRS. LISA, THAT'S FINE.

GOOD MORNING.

I REALLY JUST WANT TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT GINETTE HELLER HAD MENTIONED IN THAT

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MY HOME IS DIRECTLY MY BACKYARD FACES MCNAB AND NOB HILL.

ONE SECOND.

SO THEY'RE CAN YOU JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? LISA THANK YOU.

THAT MY HOME, THE BACKYARD FACES MCNAB AND NOB HILL, WHERE THE CVS IS.

WE HAVE HAD SO MUCH INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE THAT, YES, THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AT THIS POINT IS BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY AND IT IS BEING COMPLETED.

THE NOISE LEVEL IS HORRENDOUS.

BUT IF YOU'RE ADDING AGAIN, JUST TO EXPAND ON WHAT GINETTTE SAID, IF YOU'RE ADDING PARKING SPACES FOR ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY PLUS, MORE VEHICLES, JUST AS WORKERS, THOSE VEHICLES HAVE TO COME AND GO, THEY HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN MCNAB ROAD.

MCNAB ROAD IS ONLY A TWO LANE HIGHWAY.

IT'S NOT THE SAWGRASS AND NOT EVERYBODY COMES FROM THE SAWGRASS.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I ELSE I HAVE TO SAY.

I'D LIKE TO DEFER THE REST OF MY TIME TO OLGA.

THANK YOU.

MS. OLGA WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE SAY YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

I DO SWEAR.

THANK YOU.

HI, EXCUSE ME.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE OF THIS, GET THEM THEY'RE LIFE SAVERS.

MY NAME IS OLGA WOULD YOU MIND PUTTING PRESENTATION PAGE PAGE 17 UP THERE FOR ME, PLEASE? WHILE THIS IS HAPPENING, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE GENTLEMAN TO MY RIGHT HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT MORE THAN ONE EMAIL WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY.

I KNOW FOR A FACT OF AT LEAST TWO.

I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE ENTRANCE EXIT THAT IS PROPOSED ON MCNAB ROAD, IF YOU LOOK UP THE ROAD, THE EXIT ON MCNAB ROAD, THE HOUSE TO THE RIGHT WITH THE RED ROOF BETWEEN THE GRAY AND THE WHITE ROOF, THAT IS MY HOUSE.

SO THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE OF NOISE LEVELS THAT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT ME.

WHEN I MOVED THERE, I DID EXPECT THAT SOONER OR LATER THAT PLOT OF LAND WAS GOING TO BE BUILT AND THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC NOISES.

WHAT I AM NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT IS THE FACT THAT ADDITIONAL NOISE LEVELS WILL INCREASE DURING MY PEACEFUL HOURS AT MY HOME.

I DID EXPECT A BUSINESS TO BE BUILT THERE.

I DID EXPECT BUSINESSES TO BE CONDUCTED BETWEEN 9:00 TO 5:00 WITH A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL OVERTIME HERE AND THEIR HOLIDAYS HERE AND THERE.

YOU KNOW, DO PEOPLE PEOPLE DO LIKE TO WORK OVERTIME, BUT I AM NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE AN E-COMMERCE BUILDING BEHIND ME.

MAKING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC NOISES DURING MY PEACEFUL, RESTFUL HOME HOURS.

OUR BEDROOMS, ALL THE HOUSES THERE, ALL OF OUR BEDROOMS ARE DIRECTLY ON MCNAB ROAD.

WHILE THE CITY TRIED REALLY TRY AND I DO COMMEND THE CITY FOR PUTTING THAT WALL, IT HAS NOT MITIGATED THE NOISE LEVELS THAT HAVE INCREASED THROUGH THE YEARS AS PEOPLE HAVE FOUND THAT COMING ON MCNAB ROAD THROUGH THE BACK, WHERE CAPTIVA IS IS A SHORTCUT TO THE TRAFFIC LEVELS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING BUILT UP AND INCREASING ON A DAILY BASIS ON MCNAB ROAD IN ORDER TO MAKE THE LEFT INTO HIATUS IN ROUTE IN GETTING TO THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY.

AGAIN, I DON'T MIND PROGRESS.

I DON'T MIND THE NINE TO FIVE NOISE LEVELS THAT ARE THERE, BUT DURING MINE AND MY NEIGHBORS' PEACEFUL THEY SHOULDN'T, THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE.

IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE HOMES, AS YOU SIT THERE, I'M GOING TO POINT OUT THAT IS SO FOR MYSELF AND MS. SHERRY ROGERS, WHO SPOKE PREVIOUSLY, THE AVERAGE AGE OF OUR HOMEOWNERS IS 90 YEARS OLD.

TO THE RIGHT OF MS. SHERRY ROGERS, WHICH IS THE HOUSE WITH A WITH THE GRAY ROOF TO THE RIGHT OF MY HOUSE WITH THE RED ROOF.

THE GENTLEMAN IS 101 YEARS OLD.

THE ONE NEXT TO THE ONE TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, WHICH IS TO THE EAST, IS NINETY SIX

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YEARS OLD.

AND TO THE LEFT IS EIGHTY SEVEN, NINETY THREE AND NINETY EIGHT YEARS OLD.

THAT'S WHY THEY WERE UNABLE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

IS THAT IS MY TIME IS UP? YES.

DOES SHE HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME FROM THE LADY WHO WENT BEFORE HER? I SAW THE RED BUTTON.

YOU CAN YOU CAN ALLOW HER ADDITIONAL TIME IF THE BOARD CHOOSES, BUT HER TIME IS UP ACCORDING TO THE RULES.

IT'S TWO THIRTY FIVE.

I'D LIKE TO ALLOW YOU AN EXTRA MINUTE, OK? THANK YOU.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AS TO THE ALLOWANCE AND TO THE SUGGESTION FROM BUTTERS THAT THE EMPLOYEES FROM THE E-COMMERCE BUILDINGS, TAKES THEIR BREAKS INTO OUR CITY PARK, I LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS.

NUMBER ONE IS A VERY SMALL PARK.

NUMBER TWO HOURS ARE LIMITED.

NUMBER THREE.

AND FOREMOST, OUR CHILDREN PLAY THERE AND WE ARE SEEING THAT PEOPLE FROM AN E-COMMERCE, WHICH IS A 24 HOUR OPERATION, ARE GOING TO GO THERE.

THE PARK IS CLOSED ANYWAY, BUT WE ARE GOING TO EXPOSE OUR CHILDREN TO I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT WILL BE, EMPLOYEE OF THAT CORPORATION.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR CHILDREN.

I DO NOT THINK SO.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY FROM THE BOARD? NOT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO DID NOT SIGN UP, PLEASE? WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

HI, GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS MEL ZUCKER, AND I AM A TENANT OF ACTUALLY THE ADDRESS IS 5607 HIATUS ROAD, WHICH IS RIGHT SOUTH OF WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE GOING.

I'M PRESENTLY A TENANT THERE AND I'M LOOKING TO MOVE TO THIS SITE.

AND WE ARE IN AN ELECTRONICS COMPANY AND WE DO LIGHT ELECTRONICS.

WHICH WOULD YOU WE DO HARNESSES THAT GO INSIDE MEDICAL ELECTRONICS, HARNESSES THAT GO INSIDE MILITARY AND WE'RE CONSIDERED AN ESSENTIAL BUSINESS.

OK, WE PRESENTLY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 110 EMPLOYEES.

OUR PEOPLE GO UP AND DOWN, MCNAB, RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE, I DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY MORNING MYSELF TO WORK.

I'VE BEEN GOING DOWN THERE FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT MUCH OF A DRASTIC CHANGE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD AND A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES COME UP THROUGH THE SAWGRASS AND COME UP THROUGH HIATUS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS ADDITIONAL PARKING.

IF WE'RE UNABLE TO OBTAIN IT, WE WILL MOVE TO A DIFFERENT AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE.

AND WE DO PARTICIPATE WITH A LOT OF YOUR BUSINESSES IN THE AREA AND WE USE NUMEROUS HOTEL SPACE.

SO I THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, IT'S GREAT BEING IN THE TOWN.

I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM WITH THE NOISE, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ADDING THAT MUCH NOISE THAT THEY'RE THINKING OF.

OK, ANY QUESTIONS? NOT AT THIS TIME.

I DO HAVE ONE.

OK, THANK YOU, SIR.

SO YOU OR RATHER YOUR BUSINESS THEN WOULD BE THE THE CAUSE OR THE NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL ONE HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN PARKING SPOTS? NO.

WILL BE.

WE NEED ADDITIONAL SPOTS, BUT NOT ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN.

OK, AND SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR BUSINESS IS WHAT'S CALLED AN E-BUSINESS.

NO, NO.

WE'RE NOT THE E-BUSINESS, WE'RE A COMPANY THAT MAKES INTERNAL HARNESSING, THAT GOES IN ROBOTIC ELECTRONIC MACHINERY, GOES INTO MILITARY MACHINERY AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

WE'RE NOT CONSIDERED E-COMMERCE.

AND WHAT HOURS OF OPERATION DO YOU HAVE? OUR HOURS OF OPERATION OR AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING TILL APPROXIMATELY SIX THIRTY AT NIGHT.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? ERIC? OK.

MADAM, MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU.

MAKE ONE LAST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK THE CLERK, IF THERE ARE ANY EMAILS OR OTHER ITEMS OF PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN YOU CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SURE MY APOLOGIES.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS TIME? I FORGOT YOU HAD ASKED ME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK, YEAH.

WE'LL JUST WAIT TILL SHE CLOSES AND THEN AND THEN YOU

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AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC THE COMMENTS AND ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU.

COULD I ASK YOU TO PUT SLIDE NUMBER 17 OF OUR PRESENTATION BACK UP, PLEASE? SO WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, JUST VERY QUICKLY, THE REQUEST THIS MORNING IS NOT TO PUT IN AN E-COMMERCE COMPANY, THE REQUEST THIS MORNING IS TO ADD A DOUBLE ROW OF PARKING.

AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO THAT? IT REMOVES THE GATHERING SPACE AND IT REDUCES THE PERVIOUS AREA BY ONE POINT ONE PERCENT.

THAT'S IT.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE HOURS OF BUSINESS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHO THE TENANTS ARE HERE THIS MORNING.

WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT AN EXTRA ROW OF PARKING.

SO THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING WILL NOT CHANGE.

IT'LL BE EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

NOW, THE REASON I ASKED TO PULL UP SLIDE 17 IS BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE AND I KNOW IT MIGHT BE HARD TO READ THE DIMENSIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPERIMPOSED OVER THOSE COLORS, BUT YOU SEE THAT THE NORTH END OF THE BUILDING ONE, THE CLOSEST PART OF BUILDING ONE TO MCNAB ROAD IS THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN FEET AWAY FROM THE CLOSEST HOUSE.

AND YOU SEE THE VARIOUS PARTS OF THAT.

THAT'S NOT CHANGING.

THE NUMBER OF TREES IS NOT CHANGING.

THE ELEVATION OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT CHANGING, THE PARKING, THE EXTRA ROW OF PARKING BEHIND THOSE TREES AND BEHIND THAT LANDSCAPING, YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO SEE IT.

SO THERE'LL BE FOUR ROWS OF PARKING INSTEAD OF TWO.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SAME THING.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A BUNCH OF TREES.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE BUILDING BEHIND IT AND THE PARKING BECAUSE IT'S AT GRADE LEVEL, YOU DON'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

NOW, I THINK MR. JOHNSON MADE IT CLEAR IN HIS PRESENTATION THAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS SAY THAT BECAUSE THE BUILDING SIZE DOESN'T CHANGE, THE TRAFFIC DOESN'T CHANGE.

BUT NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, WE UPDATED THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.

THE CITY'S CONSULTANTS LOOKED AT IT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH THE STATISTICS DON'T SHOW ANY MORE TRAFFIC, THAT THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION ON THIS PROPERTY WAS LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY.

AND THEY DID THAT.

AND THE SAME THING WITH THE SOUND STUDY, THE EXTRA TWO ROWS OF VEHICLE PARKING FOR REGULAR CARS, NOT FOR TRUCKS, BECAUSE ALL THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS IN BETWEEN BUILDING ONE AND TWO.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE SOUND LEVELS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEW MORE CARS IN A PARKING LOT COMING AND GOING AT REGULAR HOURS.

AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, IF I CAN, MADAM CHAIR, IS MY CLIENT, MALCOLM BUTTERS KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS E-COMMERCE GROUP THAT WOULD COME HERE.

KEEP IN MIND THAT MR. ZUCKER'S BUSINESS WOULD TAKE A PORTION OF THESE TWO BUILDINGS, BUT THERE WOULD BE OTHER TENANTS AS WELL.

ONE OF THE OTHER TENANTS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING COMING IN IS AN E-COMMERCE CONCERN, IF I COULD, MR. BUTTERS WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT PART BETTER THAN ME, IF THAT'S OK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SURE.

MADAM CHAIR, AS HE COMES UP, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO ALLOW THE CITY AND THE AFFECTED PARTIES TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS BASED ON THIS NEW TESTIMONY.

OK.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW MR. BUTTERS TO SPEAK, AND AGAIN, IF THE CITY HAS ADDITIONAL COMMENT IN OR THE AFFECTED PARTY WHOM IS MS. LANG, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO.

MR. BUTTERS, PLEASE.

YES, MALCOLM BUTTERS 6820, LET ME JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, IT'S BEEN OUR ABSOLUTE PLEASURE FOR MY DAD AND MYSELF TO KICK OFF THE DEVELOPMENT OF SECTION SEVEN.

WHEN WE FIRST GOT HERE IN 1990, THAT WAS TOTALLY EVERGLADES SWAMPLAND.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, NOB HILL ROAD DIDN'T EVEN CONNECT FROM MCNAB TO COMMERCIAL.

SO WE TOOK A CHANCE AND WE GOT ILLINOIS TOOL WORKS.

SO WE'VE ALWAYS DONE WHAT WE THINK IS GREAT.

WE BROUGHT GREAT COMPANIES LIKE ILLINOIS TOOL WORKS, CULLIGAN WATER OVER THE YEARS.

OF COURSE, MEL FROM KSM ELECTRONICS, WE HAVE HAD ONE INQUIRY FROM A MAJOR E-COMMERCE AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LEASES.

THE PARKING IS AN ABSOLUTE MUST THERE, CREATING A LOT OF HIGH PAYING HIGH TECH JOBS.

AND THE NOTION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A 24 HOUR OPERATION IS NOT CORRECT.

I ALWAYS SAY EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION, BUT NOT THEIR OWN FACTS.

SO THEY WILL BE OPERATING.

THEY WILL BE FOLLOWING ALL NOISE REGULATIONS FOR THE CITY, ALL HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE CITY.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DEVIATION.

WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE WE DO NEED WE WHEN WE FIRST DESIGNED THE BUILDING, THERE'S BEEN, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING, A DRAMATIC

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SHIFT.

AND A LOT OF JOBS NOW ARE THAT ARE COMING TO TAMARAC, OUR HIGH PAYING CLEAN INDUSTRY JOBS LIKE PHARMACEUTICAL, E-COMMERCE AND ELECTRONICS.

SO WE DO NEED MORE PARKING.

MR. ZUCKER NEEDS FIVE PER THOUSAND PARKING, AS AN INSTANCE.

SO WE ARE BEING VERY PROACTIVE IN ORDER TO FILL THIS UP AND TO CREATE A MODERN DAY FACILITY.

WE THINK THIS IS CRITICAL.

THE BUILDING IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE THE SUPPORT, I KNOW OF THE ECONOMIC OFFICE OF THE CITY.

AND IN TALKING WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MAJOR ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE CITY.

THE CITY RIGHT NOW, I WAS SPEAKING WITH THEM, HAS A ONE POINT EIGHT DOLLARS MILLION BUDGET DEFICIT BECAUSE OF COVID, THIS WILL ADD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT TO THE TAX BASE AND THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR COMPANIES LIKE MEL AND E-COMMERCE GUYS ON A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LEVEL WILL BE PROBABLY FIVE TIMES HIGHER THAN THE NORMAL TENANT IF WE WERE TO PUT IN A DISTRIBUTION LIKE A TILE DISTRIBUTOR OR SOMETHING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO CLOSE THAT BUDGET GAP FOR THE CITY OF ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION.

HELP IT, OF COURSE.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION, BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THIS TWENTY FOUR HOUR OPERATION, WHATEVER THE REGULATIONS ARE OF THE CITY, THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN.

ONE LAST ITEM, AND THEN WE'LL BOTH REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FROM STAFF OR THE AFFECTED PARTY.

IF YOU WOULD, LOOK AT THE AGENDA, BACK UP FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE EIGHT.

THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT I THINK I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IN RESPONSE TO ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO THIS IS THE ISSUE OF WHEN YOU ARE LIMITED TO TWO ROWS OF PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET VERSUS FOUR.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE EIGHT FOR THE AGENDA, BACK UP NUMBER FOUR.

PARAGRAPH SIX IS ONE OF THE VARIANCE CRITERIA THAT THE VARIANCE IS IN HARMONY WITH THE GENERAL PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THIS CODE AND PRESERVES ITS SPIRIT.

AND I THINK STAFF HAS POINTED OUT SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT HERE.

IF YOU HAVE A ONE STORY BUILDING, YOU CAN HAVE TWO ROWS OF PARKING.

IF YOU HAVE A TWO STORY BUILDING, YOU CAN HAVE FOUR ROWS OF PARKING.

NOW, OUR BUILDING IS ONLY ONE STORY, BUT BECAUSE IT IS A WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION BUILDING, IT'S TALLER IN THAT ONE STORY.

RIGHT.

SO OUR BUILDING IS 38 FEET, SIX INCHES IN HEIGHT, WHICH MEETS THE CODE.

BUT BECAUSE IT'S ONE STORY, YOU ONLY GET TWO ROWS OF PARKING.

IT'S POINTED OUT HERE THAT A TYPICAL TWO STORY BUILDING IS LESS THAN THIRTY EIGHT FEET, SIX INCHES IN HEIGHT.

SO IF WE SIMPLY HAD A SECOND FLOOR, WE WOULDN'T NEED A VARIANCE FOR THIS EXTRA ROW OF PARKING.

SO THE IDEA IS THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE A PROPORTIONALITY BETWEEN THE HORIZONTAL DISTANCE USED FOR PARKING AND THE VERTICAL DISTANCE USED FOR THE BUILDING.

THAT'S WHY AS YOUR BUILDING GETS TALLER, YOU CAN HAVE MORE ROWS OF PARKING IN THE FRONT.

SO IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE HEIGHT OF OUR BUILDING AND FORGET ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S ONE STORY VERSUS TWO, WE WOULDN'T NEED THIS VARIANCE.

SO IT IS ONLY ONE STORY.

NOBODY'S LOOKING OUT A WINDOW INTO SOMEBODY'S YARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE WAY THIS PARKING REGULATION WAS STRUCTURED, IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE A PROPORTIONALITY BETWEEN THE HORIZONTAL DISTANCE OF THE PARKING AND THE VERTICAL DISTANCE OF THE BUILDING.

AND WE HAVE THAT, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY ONE STORY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THE OTHER THING I'M SORRY IF THE BOARD WOULD DESIRE TO MAKE IT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL WITHIN THAT 100 FOOT AREA THAT REMAINS FOR LANDSCAPING, IF YOU WANT US TO BERM IT, WE'LL BERM IT TO GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL HEIGHT FOR THOSE TREES ON TOP OF THE BERM TO CREATE A BETTER SEPARATION FROM OUR NEIGHBORS.

AND THAT BERM IS NOT PART OF THE PLAN TODAY, BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADD IT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A CONDITION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT MR. SASTRE HAS A QUESTION.

COUNCIL.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION TO THE GENTLEMAN ON THAT ONE ISSUE, BECAUSE ONE QUESTION AND I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO IT NOW.

BUT ON THAT POINT, I DON'T.

I SAW THE AERIAL DRAWING, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY DRAWINGS DEPICTING WHAT THE WHOLE SITE WILL LOOK LIKE WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND THE SHRUBBERY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I SAW THE AERIAL.

I DIDN'T SEE FROM THAT FROM THE STREET SIDE.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN ELEVATION VIEW OF THE LANDSCAPING? YES, SIR.

I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE THAT.

OK.

YEAH, I'VE SEEN THIS ONE.

I'M JUST.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I THINK MR. ZUCKER.

PLEASE COME TO THE.

SO THIS IS A PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

IS IT STILL ON? FORTH ON THE ROADS, THEY DO NOT TURN THE RADIOS ON LOUD.

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THEY'RE VERY QUIET.

WHEN THEY GO OUT TO ASSEMBLE WHERE WE'RE LOCATED, THEY LUNCH QUIETLY.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERY OTHER COMPANY AND THEY'RE VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE AREA THAT THEY'RE IN.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE LADIES ARE COMING FROM.

BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE, COME THERE TO GO TO WORK AND THEN THEY LEAVE TO GO HOME AND THEY CLEAN UP AFTER THEMSELVES.

AND THEY ARE VERY RESPECTFUL.

AS AN EMPLOYER, IF WE NEED TO, WE COULD ALWAYS TELL THE EMPLOYEES THEY CANNOT TURN THE RADIOS ON LOUD AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS JUST SO THEY COULD BE AWARE OF THAT.

OK, THANK YOU.

OK, ONE LAST COMMENT FROM MS. LANG IF SHE'S INTERESTED.

WHAT YOU FEEL IS BEST FOR THE CITY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THEY WANT WHAT THEY WANT, BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE, TOO.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY.

MS. LANG, I THINK WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU HERE.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, MA'AM.

YOU GAVE US THIS PHOTOGRAPH, WHICH DEPICTS A PICTURE FROM YOUR KITCHEN.

THAT'S MY KITCHEN THAT'S STANDING OUT MY KITCHEN, MY SLIDING GLASS DOOR IN MY KITCHEN.

OK, AND THIS IS YOUR BACKYARD.

THAT'S THE BUILDING IN MY BACKYARD.

YES.

SO AS I LOOK AT THIS, I DON'T EVEN SEE, LIKE, THERE'S ANY ROOM FOR MCNAB OR ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'S LITERALLY THE IT'S LIKE RIGHT BEHIND YOUR WALL.

RIGHT THERE.

I'M STANDING IN MY KITCHEN TAKING THAT PICTURE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I SEE OUT OF MY KITCHEN WINDOW NOW AND MY LIVING ROOM BECAUSE I HAVE SLIDING GLASS DOORS.

IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT THERE.

YOU CAN'T SEE BLUE SKY.

YOU SEE NOTHING BUT A BUILDING.

BUT FROM THIS PICTURE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LITERALLY FEET.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME TO OUR HOUSE AND SEE.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AND YET FROM THIS PICTURE.

MCNAB SEPARATES AND THERE'S GREEN SPACE THAT SEPARATES EVERYTHING.

THAT YOU'RE THAT WHERE YOUR FINGER IS.

THAT'S WHERE OUR HOUSES IF YOU TURN THAT PICTURE AROUND, MY HOUSE IS UP AT THE TOP, NOT THE BOTTOM.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT THIS ALL SEPARATES YOUR HOUSE FROM.

CORRECT? YES.

BUT STANDING OUT THE WINDOW, THAT'S ALL YOU SEE IS A BUILDING.

SO I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD MANY TIMES, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, I KNOW THAT, CESAR THE ROAD IS TWO LANES, BUT I AGREE WITH HIM AND THAT'S A COMMENT THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE AS WELL, THAT THESE DON'T NECESSARILY MATCH.

NO, THEY DON'T.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU THAT IF I HAVE A COUNTER WITH A TV, IF I'M SITTING AT MY COUNTER EATING, THAT'S ALL I SEE IS THAT BUILDING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SAY THE PICTURE.

YOU COULD SEE THAT THE BUILDING LOOKS OFF.

BUT STANDING IN MY KITCHEN, THAT IS THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE, ALL YOUR KITCHEN TOO.

ALL YOU SEE IS A BUILDING.

IT'S.

IT'S DISHEARTENING, TO SAY THE LEAST, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FOR AS LONG AS WE LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S THEY ARE NOW AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.

OK, THANK YOU.

OK, SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND COMMENTS FROM THE, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? JOHNSON, MR. JOHNSON? NO, MADAM CHAIR.

OK, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO THE BOARD FOR COMMENT.

TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND BEFORE I GET TO THE QUESTIONS.

ONE COMMENT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO ANSWER THE EARLIER QUESTION, I DO LIVE NORTH DOWN ONE HUNDRED AND 8TH TERRACE.

SO PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A WEEK I DRIVE RIGHT BY THE SITE.

SO I'M ALSO FAMILIAR WITH THE CONDITIONS.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

FIRST QUESTION IS, AS THE SITE PLAN EXISTS NOW THE APPROVED SITE PLAN, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED FOR THESE BUILDINGS VERSUS HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY CODE? IT'S FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN ARE BEING PROVIDED AND THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT PER CODE BECAUSE THERE'S NO USES IN THE BUILDING YET.

OK, THERE IS AN INDUSTRIAL REQUIREMENT THAT MR. BUTTERS REFERRED TO, BUT IS NOT APPLICABLE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE VARIOUS USES THAT GO IN THERE.

UNDERSTOOD.

SECOND QUESTION REGARDING THE OUTDOOR ASSEMBLY SPACE, I ALSO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING THE EMPLOYEES GO TO THE PARK AND NOT BE THE

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GREATEST OF IDEAS.

AS WAS POINTED OUT, THERE'S A HUNDRED FEET STILL BETWEEN THE SECOND ROW OF PARKING BEING REQUESTED.

WHY NOT PUT THE ASSEMBLY SPACE IN THAT ONE HUNDRED FEET? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S NEEDED FOR DRAINAGE.

PLEASE SIR.

SIR, I'M GUESSING YOU'RE ASKING IF WE COULD MOVE THAT OUTDOOR SPACE INTO THE 100 FOOT BUFFER THAT REMAINS YES, WE WOULD AGREE TO DO THAT.

AND FOR WHERE THE SPACES THAT WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY THAT ALSO HAVE THE BERM FOR THE REMAINING SPACE? YES, I THINK WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE BERMS. YES, I'M LOOKING AT MY CIVIL ENGINEER TO MAKE SURE I ANSWER CORRECTLY.

YES, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE OUTDOOR SPACE AND STILL ACCOMMODATE THE BERM.

OK, THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE MADAM CHAIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

I DO, ACTUALLY.

BUT SINCE THE CLIENT AGREED TO PROVIDE THE OUTDOOR SPACE, SO IT'S NOT RELEVANT, I WAS JUST GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH ROB THAT THE INTENT OF THE CODE FOR THAT OUTDOOR SPACE TO BE USED BY THE STAFF.

RIGHT.

BY THE EMPLOYEE TO CREATE MORE OF WHAT THE TWO PERCENT? NOT NECESSARILY THE CODE STATES, THAT IT'S THAT IT'S TO BE USED FOR RESIDENTS ALSO.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE EMPLOYER.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? CORRECT.

OK.

SO BASICALLY, I GUESS IF IT'S THE INTENT OF THE COURT IS TO HAVE IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUIREMENT, OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACES AND OPEN OR PARTIALLY OPEN AREA INTENDED FOR THE BENEFIT OF RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES OR VISITORS TO A SITE.

OK, AND ACTUALLY THE FACT THAT THERE IS A PARK RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

SO IT DOES PROVIDE, CORRECT? CORRECT.

I OFTEN DRIVE MY CAR TO THE PARK TO EAT LUNCH.

YEAH.

OK, NO FURTHER QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

AND I BELIEVE MR. SASTRE HAS QUESTIONS.

YEAH I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, AND THESE COULD GO TO STAFF AND OR THE APPLICANT.

WITH RESPECT TO THE GATHERING SPACE.

LET ME UNDERSTAND, IS THERE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE SUNSET POINT PARK FROM THE APPLICANT'S LOT OR DO THEY HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY AROUND TO LIKE THE MAIN ENTRANCE? THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE THE SIDEWALKS OUT TO THE SITE.

AND THEN THROUGH MCNAB, THERE IS NO DIRECT SIDEWALK CONNECTION.

THERE MIGHT BE A FENCE SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO EITHER JUMP OVER OR WALK AROUND, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THAT'S WHY YOU WOULD HAVE TO USE THE SIDEWALK ON MCNAB TO GET TO THE SITE.

OK, RIGHT OF WAY.

RIGHT TO GET TO THE TO GET TO THE PARK.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M FROM.

SO THERE'S NO OTHER WAY INTO THE PARK EXCEPT GOING AROUND? CORRECT.

YEAH.

THERE'S NO DIRECT CONNECTION FROM THIS SITE TO THE PARK.

WE WOULD WANT TO LIMIT THOSE CONNECTIONS TO THE PUBLIC.

AND I THINK WE ESTABLISHED THAT THERE MIGHT BE IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWING, ENOUGH SPACE IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT WHERE THERE COULD BE A GATHERING AREA.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER.

WELL, I MEAN, FROM YOUR OBSERVATION OF THE SPACE ITSELF, DOES IT LOOK LIKE THERE WOULD BE ? I DON'T KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO PLAN IT APPROPRIATELY.

OK, SIR? WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN MAKE THE OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE FIT WITHIN THE 100 FOOT BUFFER.

REMEMBER THAT THE OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE HAS A SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT, BUT THE SHAPE OF IT CAN BE CIRCULAR OR RECTANGULAR OR OVAL SHAPE.

WE CAN MAKE IT FIT WITHIN 100 FOOT BUFFER.

AND YOU MENTIONED THE BERM AS WELL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MANY DETAILS, BUT DO YOU LIKE THINGS OF THAT NATURE? YES, WE DO.

LET ME SAY THIS OR ASK THIS QUESTION TOO.

I MEAN, ACCESS TO THIS SUNSET POINT PARK, THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

I MEAN, ANYONE CAN GO IN THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

WHETHER IT'S AN EMPLOYEE FROM A BUILDING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S A PUBLIC CITY PARK.

RIGHT.

SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF CHILDREN BEING EXPOSED TO STRANGERS.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I DRIVE THERE AND EAT MY LUNCH AT THE PARK OFTEN FROM HERE.

OK, OTHER QUESTIONS? TELL ME ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE ROUNDABOUT OR THE CIRCLE IN MCNAB, WHY IS THAT A PART OF THIS? WHAT BENEFIT DOES THAT GIVE US? GIVE ANY OF US? I THINK WHAT HAPPENED HERE IS WE DO THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES-- EXCUSE ME, WE DO THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THEY REVIEW THEM.

AND I THINK AND I SEE CARL PETERSON OVER THERE, YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I'VE

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HEARD HIM TESTIFY ENOUGH TIMES THAT I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING AND HOPEFULLY HE'LL AGREE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT A TRAFFIC, AN INTERSECTION, THE BEST THING IS IF YOU CAN HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT BECAUSE IT CONTROLS THE TRAFFIC THE BEST.

BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TRAFFIC, THE COUNTY WON'T GIVE YOU A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

RIGHT.

THE NEXT BEST THING IS A CIRCLE.

THE WORST THING IS STOP SIGNS.

SO THEY SAID WE THINK WE WANT THIS INTERSECTION TO OPERATE BETTER AT MCNAB AND WE CAN'T GET THE COUNTY TO APPROVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

AND WE THINK THAT HAVING STOP SIGNS IS NOT A GOOD SOLUTION.

SO WE WANT TO HAVE A TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

WHO SAID THAT? THE CITY'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER REVIEWING OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER STUDY.

THEY AGREE.

OUR RIGHT.

SO WHAT THEY ASKED US TO DO WAS TO PAY FOR THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE.

AND WE AGREED.

BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT'S--.

ONE THING, CESAR, THIS-- SORRY, WE HAD WHEN WE FIRST GOT SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THE CITY ASKED US TO PAY FOR MOST OF THE ROUNDABOUT.

SO AND THEIR OPINION, I THINK THE TRAFFIC, IN THEIR OPINION, WAS VERY WAS MORE CONGESTED IN THAT AREA, EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT CAUSE OR REALLY ONE PERCENT OR WHATEVER THE CAUSE OF ANY TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA, WE GENEROUSLY DONATED, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE COST FOR THE ROUNDABOUT THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BUILD.

NOT IT'S NOT RELATED TO THIS APPLICATION.

THIS IS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN FOR THE BUILDING.

RIGHT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO-- BECAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD TESTIMONY THIS MORNING HAS BEEN MOST OF THE TRAFFIC, AS FAR AS TRUCKS ARE CONCERNED, WOULD COME FROM THE SAWGRASS, GO UP HIATUS.

AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE FURTHER NORTH OF THERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW A TRUCK OR WIRE TRUCK WOULD EVEN WANT TO TRY AND GO THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT TO GO INTO THE AREA.

SO I WAS KIND OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE ROUNDABOUT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT THE ROUNDABOUT IS MORE OF AN ISSUE OF GENERAL TRAFFIC IN THE AREA AS OPPOSED TO OUR TRAFFIC ITSELF.

AND SO WHEN MALCOLM WAS TESTIFYING ABOUT OUR PERCENTAGE BEING LOW, I SAW MR. PETERSON, YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, OVER THERE NODDING HIS HEAD.

SO IT'S MORE ABOUT GENERAL TRAFFIC CONDITIONS IN THE AREA THAN IT IS ABOUT OUR BUILDING ITSELF.

ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY.

SO MANY TIMES PEOPLE LOOK AT A BUILDING WHEN IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THEY SAY, WOW, IT'S BIG.

IT LOOKS CLOSE.

NONE OF THE LANDSCAPING IS THERE YET.

I ASSURE YOU, WHEN WE PUT THE LANDSCAPING IN, IT'S GOING TO LOOK VERY MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IT DOES RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR, AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO A PLAN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

BUT WHEN YOU HEAR SOME OF THE COMMENTS OR SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS FROM THE RESIDENTS, UNDERSTANDABLY, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I DON'T DISCOUNT ANYTHING THAT ANYONE SAID.

I'M JUST ASKING WHEN I SAW THE BOARD MEMBERS LOOKING AT THE TWO PICTURES AND EVEN THOUGH I COULDN'T REALLY SEE THEM, I COULD ENVISION WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

THERE IS A SEPARATION OF THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN FEET, BUT STILL THE BUILDING IS VISIBLE, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

ONCE WE PUT THE LANDSCAPING IN, IT'LL BE LESS VISIBLE.

THAT'S MY ONLY POINT.

THAT'S WHERE BUFFERS LIKE THE BERMS AND MAYBE A HEDGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT DRESSES IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THAT YOU WILL FIND THAT OUR LANDSCAPE PALETTE IS A VERY GOOD ONE.

IF WE ADD THE BERM, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY PUT LANDSCAPED MATERIAL ON TOP OF THE BERM SO YOU CAN GET THE MAXIMUM VERTICAL SEPARATION AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY LANDSCAPE STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT PROPERLY.

I HAPPEN TO LIKE ALL OF THE MATERIAL I HAD BEFORE THAT SUCCUMB TO THE WHITEFLY HAS BEEN REPLACED BY ME TOO.

AND FYI, I JUST LEARNED THIS RECENTLY.

YOU CAN CLIP OFF ONE OF THE BRANCHES AND PLANT ON THE GROUND AND WE'LL JUST TAKE OFF.

WOW.

SO YOU DON'T NEED TO GO HOME DEPOT AND BUY MORE POTS.

YOU CAN--.

I'VE MADE ABOUT FOUR HEDGES AROUND MY PROPERTY WITH IT.

WELL THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE I GOT SOME SPOTS THAT NEED IT.

ANYWAY.

NEXT QUESTION, OR NEXT CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED HAD TO DO WITH NOISE.

NOW--.

TALK TO ME ABOUT OPERATION, THE WORK, I MEAN, THIS IS A 24/7 OPERATION, AND I KNOW THIS TRUCK NOISE FROM BEEPING AND EVERYTHING ALREADY GOING ON WITH CITY FURNITURE NEXT DOOR TO THE SOUTH.

TELL ME WHAT WE CAN EXPECT HERE.

I MEAN, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT? WHAT KIND OF HOURS THAT THEY MAY COME IN AT 11 A.M., I MEAN, 2:00 A.M., 3:00 A.M.? SO FIRST OF ALL, LET ME REPEAT THE ONE PART WE KNOW IS MR. THAT WOULD OCCUPY A PORTION OF ONE OF THESE TWO BUILDINGS IS REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS.

I THINK YOU MENTIONED SEVEN A.M.

TO SIX THIRTY PM.

YES.

I THINK MALCOLM CAN HELP MORE THAN I CAN WITH RESPECT TO THE E-COMMERCE OPERATOR.

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YEAH, WITH RESPECT TO THE E-COMMERCE, SOME OF US, I'LL ADMIT, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

WHAT YOU KNOW, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES, WHAT KIND OF HOURS, WHAT-- CAN YOU EDUCATE US A LITTLE MORE ON THAT? AND AGAIN, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT FACETS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MAJOR INQUIRY THAT WE'VE HAVE WOULD BE ONE OF THE MAJOR E-COMMERCE COMPANIES.

AND WE'VE ASKED THEM ABOUT THEIR OPERATION.

AND RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE FROM LIKE 8 TO 8.

SO, AGAIN, THERE'S NO YOU KNOW, I HEAR THE CONCERNS AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT THEY BACK UP TO US.

BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD, THERE'S NO THOUGHT OF A 24 HOUR OPERATION.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER COMPANIES IN THE PARK AND WITH ALL CITY CODES.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

CAN THERE BE A 24 HOUR OPERATION AT THE SITE? YES, THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS ON HOURS OF OPERATION.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE AND IF THEY ARE EXCEEDED, THEY COULD BE ENFORCED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT'S WHY SAYS WE WENT THROUGH THAT EXTRA LENS.

KIMBERLY HORN, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST ENGINEERING COMPANIES IN THE COUNTRY, WE GOT THAT STUDY DONE AND THEY SAID EVEN WHENEVER THEY'RE OPERATING AT THE PEAK PEAK HOUR AND LET'S SAY THAT IS NOON OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE THAT IS EMITTED FROM THE OPERATION, WHETHER IT'S THE TRUCK CORD OR THE PARKING, DOES NOT EXCEED 50 OR 60 DECIBELS.

THAT'S THE MAXIMUM.

SO MOST OF THE TIME IT'S BELOW THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST PEOPLE INSIDE THE BUILDING.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO 50 OR 60 DECIBELS IS, ACCORDING TO THE CHART THAT THEY PROVIDED THE SAME AS A RESIDENTIAL AIR CONDITIONER, LIKE IN YOUR NEIGHBOR'S YARD.

DO YOU-- HAVE YOU OR HAS THE CITY BEEN PROVIDED WITH THOSE STUDIES, THE NOISE AND THE TRAFFIC STUDIES? I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE REVIEWED THAT.

NO, THE CITY WAS NOT.

IT WAS NOT A REQUIREMENT.

I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SUBMIT IT.

IT'S ON THAT THUMB DRIVE THAT WE GAVE THAT COPY THAT WAS ON THE SCREEN.

SO YOU'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO HOLD IT AND KEEP IT.

AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, TOO, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW.

WE HAVE THAT.

I COULD EVEN GIVE YOU A COPY RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANT.

UM, COULD I ASK YOU TO PUT UP SLIDE NUMBER 17 AGAIN? BECAUSE JUST ONE OTHER THING I THINK FOLLOWING WITH MR. SASTRE'S QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.

I'M ALMOST DONE.

PLEASE CONTINUE WHEN THE SLIDE COMES UP.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THIS? WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE TO REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN PARKING SPACES FROM WHEN YOU CAME BEFORE US BACK IN MARCH OF TWENTY NINETEEN? SO AS MR. JOHNSON MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN THE QUESTION WAS ASKED HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED, WHEN YOU BUILD A AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING LIKE THIS OR EVEN WHEN YOU BUILD A SHOPPING CENTER, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES IS DICTATED BY THE TENANTS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SHOPPING CENTER, FOR EXAMPLE, IS EASIER TO USE.

IF YOU FILLED IT UP WITH A BUNCH OF RESTAURANTS VERSUS A BUNCH OF RETAIL STORES, YOU WOULD NEED MORE PARKING BECAUSE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR RESTAURANTS ARE GREATER PER SQUARE FOOT THAN THEY ARE FOR RETAIL STORE.

SO THE SAME THING IS TRUE WITH THE VARIOUS TYPES OF INDUSTRIAL TENANTS THAT YOU MIGHT GET.

SOME TENANTS REQUIRE MORE PARKING, SOME LESS.

SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED THAT WHEN MALCOLM ORIGINALLY DID THIS BUILDING, HE LOOKED AT PRETTY MUCH JUST A GENERAL INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE TYPE BASE, SAID THIS LOOKED LIKE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF SPACES.

NOW, AS WE'RE GETTING TENANTS COMING IN, WE REALIZED THAT SOME OF THEM NEED MORE.

FOR EXAMPLE, MR. ZUCKER'S FIRM, I THINK YOU SAID, NEEDED FIVE SPACES PER THOUSAND, WHICH IS MORE THAN SOME OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES MIGHT NEED.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THE WORLD IS CHANGING.

THE WORLD NOW IN DECEMBER OF TWENTY TWENTY LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT DID IN MARCH OF TWENTY NINETEEN.

SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS A TREMENDOUS INFLUX OF CLEAN INDUSTRY AND E-COMMERCE, AND IT'S JUST REQUIRING MORE PARKING.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT LIMIT THE CITY TO AN OLD SCHOOL TYPE OF OPERATION, LIKE A MOVING COMPANY, LIKE A TILE DISTRIBUTOR.

YOU KNOW, MY GOAL AND MY FAMILY'S GOAL WHEN WE BUILT THE PARK AND WE FIRST PUT IN ILLINOIS TOOL WORKS WAS TO CREATE HIGH PAYING JOBS.

SO MANUFACTURERS IN THE PARK UNIT, BUILDING.

WE'RE TRYING TO BE AHEAD OF THE GAME.

WHEN WE FIRST DESIGNED THIS BUILDING, WE WORKED WITH ROBERT AND FRANK AND THEY ASKED ME, WHY DO WE NEED 32 TWO FOOT CLEAR HEIGHT? EVERYONE, MOST OF THE BUILDINGS IN THE PARK THAT YOU BUILT WERE 24 FOOT CLEAR HEIGHT.

AND WE EXPLAINED TO THEM, THE WORLD IS CHANGING, DISTRIBUTION NEEDS ARE CHANGING.

PARKING NEEDS ARE CHANGING.

SO THEY'RE GOING HIGHER AND HIGHER.

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AND IF WE'RE GOING TO ATTRACT THE COMPANIES LIKE E COMMERCE, LIKE THE GOOGLES, LIKE THE AMAZONS, WE NEED TO BE WHERE THE THE BALL IS-- WHERE THE PUCK IS GOING TO GO, AS THEY SAY .

DON'T GO WHERE THE PUCK WAS, GO WHERE THE PUCK IS GOING.

THAT'S WHAT WAYNE GRETZKY USED TO SAY.

SO WE THOUGHT AHEAD OF IT.

WE CREATED CLEAR HEIGHT.

WE HAD VERY GOOD SHIPPING.

YOU KNOW, WE HIT IT IN THE BACK, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENCES ARE ABOUT SIX, SEVEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET FROM OUR SHIPPING AREA THERE, ABOUT A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW MS. BUT IT'S NOT-- IT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING BECAUSE FROM THE FRONT DOOR OF THE BUILDING TO HER BACKYARD IS A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY.

THREE HUNDRED AND SOMETHING FEET.

HAVE YOU SEEN HER PICTURE? NO, I HAVE.

I SAW THAT.

I SAW THEM.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PICTURES ARE A LITTLE MISLEADING.

SO I THINK ONCE YOU PUT THE LANDSCAPING AND THE BERM IN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVEN SEE THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE SO DENSE WITH VEGETATION.

BUT AGAIN, OUR GOAL WAS YOUR QUESTION IS WHY DIDN'T WE DO IT? THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

THE WORLD HAS CHANGED SO DRAMATICALLY.

AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CATCH IT NOW WHILE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION SO WE DON'T LIMIT OURSELVES TO OLD SCHOOL INDUSTRY.

I WANT TAMARAC TO BE KNOWN FOR CLEAN HIGH TECH INDUSTRY.

UM, THE REASON I ASKED TO PUT NUMBER 17 UP AGAIN, IF YOU JUST TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT IT.

YES.

LOOK AT THE BUILDING IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.

SO THAT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING.

YOU SEE IT IN WHITE NOW.

IT HAS ITS TRUCK COURT NOT IN BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS LIKE WE DO, BUT IT ACTUALLY HAS IT ON THE EAST SIDE.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE LITTLE WING WALLS AND YOU SEE WHERE THE TRUCK COURT WOULD BE.

BUT THE MAIN REASON I'M SHOWING YOU THIS IS LOOK AT HOW MUCH FARTHER AWAY WE ARE FROM MCNAB ROAD THAN THAT EXISTING BUILDING IS.

AND BECAUSE WE PUT OUR TRUCK COURT IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, NOT ONLY ARE WE FARTHER AWAY FROM OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT WE'RE KEEPING THAT SOUND INTERNAL.

I'VE ASKED-- I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE KNOWS, BUT I'VE ASKED MALCOLM IF HE AWARE OF ANY COMPLAINTS THEY'VE HAD FOR THAT WHITE BUILDING THAT'S IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.

AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN.

AND I KNOW THAT'S ALSO AN INDUSTRIAL OPERATION AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR HOURS ARE.

BUT THE MAIN THING I JUST WANTED TO SHOW IS HOW MUCH FARTHER AWAY WE ARE FROM OUR NEIGHBORS THAN THAT BUILDING IS.

AND BY THE WAY, I JUST GOT A TEXT, THE ENGINEER FROM KIMBERLY HORN, WHO IS IN NORTH CAROLINA, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HE'S AN EXPERT ON NOISE STUDIES.

HE'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY COMMENTS.

HE'S LISTENING IN VIRTUALLY SO.

LET ME SEE IF I GOT ANYTHING.

I'M ASSUMING THIS WILL ALL BE AS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, ADA COMPLIANT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE IN ANY WAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THE BERM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH WHAT A BERM IS, BUT SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO REITERATE WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF A BERM IS.

IT'S A PIECE OF EARTH LAND, DIRT.

YOU PUT GRASS OVER AND YOU CAN PUT TREES ON TOP.

CORRECT.

OK, SO THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT MRS. LANGE SHARED SHOWS-- I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NO FOLIAGE YET.

THERE'S NO SHRUBBERY.

THERE'S NO TREES.

BUT THE PHOTOGRAPH, IT LOOKS AS IF THE BUILDING IS RIGHT IN HER BACKYARD.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT TYPE OF TREE? I KNOW THAT THE PHOTOGRAPH HERE SHOWS THAT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF SHRUBBERY IN BETWEEN MCNAB ROAD AND THE PROPERTY.

WHAT TYPE OF SHRUBBERY WE'RE PUTTING THERE? WHAT SITE? WHAT SIZE? TREES, WHAT TYPE? AND ON THE BERM.

WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE PUTTING THERE? AND SO IT'D BE PROBABLY THE SAME TREES.

AND LYN BENDER, WHO IS OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, WAS PUTTING IN PINE TREES, OAK TREES AND SABLE PALMS. THERE WAS A GREEN BUTTON WOODS BUT SHE PROVIDED THAT SLIDE MA'AM OF ALL THE TREES THAT ARE GOING IN THERE.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT, AGAIN, THERE'S A MINIMUM HEIGHT THAT ROBERT, YOU KNOW, HE COULD ALLUDE TO THAT IS REQUIRED.

SO IF WE CREATE, YOU KNOW, A 10 FOOT BERM OR WHATEVER WE CREATE THAT THE CITY WANTS, AND THEN THERE'S STILL A 15 OR 20 FOOT TREE.

YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, 30 FEET OF COVER.

LOOK, I HAVE NO PROBLEM EVEN IF WE WANTED TO PUT A WALL THERE, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, FOR ME, IT'S NOT THE COST.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE PRETTY.

BUT IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A WALL INSTEAD OF A BERM WITH TREES, I'M OK WITH THAT, TOO.

IF MS. LANGE WANTS THE WALL, I'M OK WITH THAT.

I THOUGHT THE BERM WITH ALL THOSE TREES, YOU'D NEVER EVEN SEE THE BUILDING BECAUSE--.

I LIKE THE BERM IDEA.

I JUST LOOKED TO FIND OUT WHAT TREES WOULD BE THERE.

AND GENERALLY WHAT WE TRY TO DO AND A BERM LIKE THAT IS YOU HAVE A LOW LEVEL

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LANDSCAPING LIKE THE HEDGE MR. SASTRE REFERRED TO AND THEN CANOPY TREES ABOVE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHERE YOU PUT YOUR PALM TREES ON THE BERM.

THAT'S WHERE YOU PUT YOUR CANOPY TREES SO THAT YOU GET THE MOST COVERAGE.

AND YOU SEE THERE'S A WHOLE VARIETY OF TREES HERE.

THERE'S LIVE OAKS, THERE'S SEAGRAVES.

THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, CANOPY TREES ON TOP OF THAT BERM.

SO ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE BACK, MCNAB ROAD, AS IT STANDS TODAY, IS TWO LANES, ONE GOING EAST, ONE GOING WEST.

AS THE PROJECT GROWS AND WE HAVE GROWTH AND THE BUSINESS, I'M ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WIDEN THAT ROAD WHICH MAY ENCROACH ON THE FOLIAGE THAT WE HAVE.

HOW WILL THAT AFFECT US WITHIN 15 YEARS? SO DO I UNDERSTAND THAT TODAY MCNAB ROAD IS FOUR LANE DIVIDED, TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION IN THAT LOCATION? CAN I ASK HIM TO HELP WITH THIS? GOOD MORNING, JOHN KIM.

I'M WITH ADDRESS IS 110 EAST BROWARD BOULEVARD, FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS MCNAB IS ACTUALLY A TWO LANE UNDIVIDED COLLECTIVE ROADWAY.

NOT MAJOR, BUT NOT MINOR, NOT LOCAL.

I BELIEVE THAT IN THE EVENT THAT IT DID GET WIDENED AND PERHAPS YOUR CONSULTANT WOULD WOULD CONFIRM, BUT IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT, THE TREES THAT WE'RE INSTALLING WOULD NOT BE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND SO THERE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE ANY REMOVAL.

IF I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, THERE WOULDN'T BE A REMOVAL OF TREES FROM OUR PROPERTY DUE TO A WIDENING OF MCNAB BECAUSE OUR TREES WOULD HAVE TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

OK.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

DO YOU ANTICIPATE NEEDING TO WIDEN THE ROAD IN THE NEXT 15 YEARS OR SO OR THE NEAR FUTURE? WELL, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT ONLY BECAUSE OUR ANALYSIS USUALLY FOCUSES ON INTERSECTIONS.

INTERSECTIONS IS WHERE YOU GET THE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK.

YOU CAN LOOK AT A TWO WAY ROAD IN THE MIDDLE AND COUNT TRAFFIC AND NOT REALLY KNOW HOW CONGESTED IT IS UNTIL YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION.

BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE CITY OR COUNTY DECISION TO WIDEN IT.

AND FRANKLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT REMAIN THAT WAY, IN MY OPINION.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO SAY, BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, I ALWAYS TELL RESIDENTS, WHEN YOU GIVE THEM MORE LANES, MORE TRAFFIC COMES.

SO IT'S MUCH CONGESTED.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET 50 TRAFFIC ENGINEERS IN A ROOM AND HAVE IT SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

BUT I PERSONALLY, BEING, YOU KNOW, A HOMEOWNER OR A PARENT AND AN ENGINEER AS WELL, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THE ROAD MAINTAIN ITS TWO LANE.

I REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DO THAT FOR THE SAKE OF THE RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU.

SUPPLEMENT WITH MR. KIM WAS TALKING ABOUT.

I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE THIS, BUT THIS IS THE BROWARD COUNTY TRAFFIC MAP.

AND WHAT THE BROWARD COUNTY TRAFFIC MAP WAYS IS USED FOR IS TO ESTABLISH RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS FOR ALL MAJOR ROADS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BROWARD COUNTY TRAFFIC MAP, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT MCNAB ROAD, IF YOU'RE EAST OF UNIVERSITY DRIVE, IS A 200 FOOT CORRIDOR.

WHEN YOU GET WEST OF UNIVERSITY DRIVE, THAT SHRINKS TO A SMALLER AMOUNT.

WHEN YOU REACH HIATUS, IT GOES OFF THE TRAFFIC MAP.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE AREA BETWEEN HAITUS AND THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY IS NO LONGER CONSIDERED A MAJOR ROAD.

NOW, IF MCNAB ROAD HAD AN INTERCHANGE AT THE SAWGRASS, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY, RIGHT? THEY WOULD HAVE KEPT IT WIDER.

IT WOULD HAVE HAD RAMPS.

AND THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WILES ROAD IN CORAL SPRINGS, IF YOU KNOW THAT AREA, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT CONNECT TO THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY.

ONCE YOU GET PAST COLERIDGE DRIVE, WHICH IS THE LAST MAJOR INTERSECTION, IT NARROWS DOWN.

SO I THINK MR. KIM'S POINT AND ACTUALLY MR. PETERSON IS YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, SO YOU MAY WANT TO ASK HIM INSTEAD OF ASKING MY CONSULTANT, BUT I THINK HE WOULD PROBABLY SAY THE SAME THING.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHERE THERE'S AN OFF RAMP OR A CUT OFF, THAT THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC.

SO I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION ON THE NEXT POINT WOULD BE THAT MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE COMING FROM THE NORTH OR SOUTH VIA THE SOUTHEAST EXPRESSWAY OR SOME OTHER MAJOR ROAD.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND MOST OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS GOING TO COME OFF AT THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY AND COME, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD, ATLANTIC BOULEVARD, WHICHEVER ROAD, WHICHEVER DIRECTION THEY'RE COMING FROM.

AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND, PLEASE.

YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT MRS. LANGE'S PHOTOGRAPH SHOWS THE, I'M NOT SURE THIS IS APPROPRIATE, SO PLEASE

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SIT IN.

LET ME KNOW IF THIS QUESTION IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT.

WOULD THE COMPANY BE WILLING TO OFFER SHRUBBERY AGAINST THAT WALL OR THE CITY? I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW TO ASK THIS QUESTION OF TO HELP WITH THE SOUND BUFFER, IF ANY--.

ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MCNAB? THE WALL THERE? THE WALL BEHIND MRS. LANE'S HOUSE.

YES.

YEAH, WE WOULD AGREE TO ADD LANDSCAPING FOR THAT AREA.

ABSOLUTELY.

I KNOW IT'S NOT ON OUR SITE AND I KNOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING THE CITY CAN TELL US TO DO, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO DO IT.

CONCLUDES MY QUESTION.

MR. BUTTERS PAID A PERCENTAGE OF THE COST OF THAT WALL.

YOU KNOW, THAT WALL WAS DONE BY THE CITY.

YES, BUT MAYBE FROM PINE ISLAND ROAD ALL THE WAY OUT TO THIS AREA.

AND HE PAID A SHARE AND HE'S WILLING TO PAY SOME MONEY FOR SOME TREES, TOO, IF THAT'LL HELP.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THERE IS NO ANTICIPATED ROADWAY EXPANSION IN THAT AREA, AS-- IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPHIC THE CITY'S PARKING FOR THE SUNSET POINT PARK THAT WE RECENTLY PUT IN, THAT'S INSTALLED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY RIGHT OF WAY EXPANSION.

CITY ATTORNEY, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE-- I KNOW THAT THE FLOOR IS CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME, BUT WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S APPROPRIATE-- HOLD ON MA'AM-- IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW HER TO SPEAK.

ARE WE JUST CLOSED FOR THE PUBLIC? YOU CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OK OR THE SPEAKERS.

THAT'S IT.

THERE'S A CITY FORM AND PROCESS THAT I THINK SHE'S STILL HERE, THAT SHE FILLED OUT AND PROVIDED FOR BEING AFFORDED THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

OK, UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS TIME, THE FLOOR IS CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

I DO RESPECT YOUR WANTING TO EXPRESS YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT WE'VE HEARD WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT YOUR STANCES.

AND MADAM CHAIR, I'M SORRY, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE, THE CITY HAS A CODE REQUIREMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR THE REGISTRATION OF AN AFFECTED PARTY SEVEN DAYS BEFORE THE HEARING, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETE THAT FORM AND SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, WHICH WAS ONLY DONE BY THE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO SPOKE.

IT'S NOT AN EMAIL.

IT'S A FORM.

SO WE JUST HAVE ONE, MADAM CHAIRMAN, ONE FORM THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

OK.

UNFORTUNATELY JUST HAVE THE ONE FORM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

I SAID, IT'S A COMPLETE--.

OK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DO AGAIN, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION AND I RESPECT YOUR NEED TO SPEAK.

BUT WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU AND WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROTOCOL.

OK, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM TWO AND THREE WITH CONDITIONS.

MY THOUGHTS ARE I'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE CONDITION TO IMPLEMENT THE BERM, AS WELL AS PROVIDE THE FOLIAGE FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MCNAB ROAD.

MADAM CHAIR, I THINK THE VOTES ON THIS HAVE TO BE SEPARATE, RIGHT? ITEM TWO AND THREE? YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.

I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY STAFF JUST MAKE CLEAR WHICH ITEM THE BERM WOULD APPLY FAR AND AS FAR AS THE ITEM FOR HELPING THE RESIDENT WITH THE LANDSCAPE MATERIAL, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PROBABLY WORDED IN A WAY THAT THE DEVELOPER WORKED WITH THE RESIDENT TO PUT LANDSCAPE ON THAT SITE BECAUSE IT'S NOT WITHIN THE PROJECT AREA.

I UNDERSTAND.

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I WORK WITH THE CITY.

I'M CORRECTED ON THAT ON THE WALL LANDSCAPING AREA.

THAT'S NOT ON THE SUBJECT SITE.

WORK WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.

SO, MADAM CHAIR, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED BY THE APPLICANT BE ATTACHED TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A SITE PLAN.

OK.

ATTORNEY QUENTIN, CAN YOU PLEASE REPHRASE OR REITERATE THAT STATEMENT.

DEVELOPER WILL WORK WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL--.

LANDSCAPING ON THE, I THINK IT'S A BUFFER WALL ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.

OK.

MADAM CHAIR, IS YOUR MOTION GOING TO INCLUDE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE AS WELL AS THE BERM? YES.

AND JUST SO WE'RE OPERATING.

IF SOMEONE ON THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, AS STATED FOR THE CHAIR, JUST SO, BECAUSE TYPICALLY THE CHAIR WOULD NOT MAKE THE MOTION, JUST I KNOW YOU ARTICULATED THE MOTION.

AND IF SOMEBODY ELSE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE RECORD.

YES.

BEFORE MAKING THE MOTION, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY SOMETHING WITH THE STAFF OR THE APPLICANT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT BACK THE GATHERING PLACE SO YOU STILL NEED VARIANCE FOR REMOVAL OF IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE ITEM-- IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE CONDITION TO PUT BACK THE PUBLIC GATHERING PLACE, ARE THEY GOING TO STILL NEED THE VARIANCE? THEY WOULD NOT NEED THE VARIANCE.

WELL, IF IT'S UNDER TWO PERCENT, THEY WOULD NEED THE VARIANCE.

SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO PUT THE VARIANCE JUST IN CASE YOU'RE GOING TO BE UNDER TWO PERCENT.

THAT'S CORRECT? THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

THANK YOU.

OK, SO BASICALLY THE FIRST MOTION WILL HAVE A CONDITION TO INCLUDE OR WILL HAVE A CONDITION TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE UNDER OK, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

I'M SURE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO ALLOW FOR A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR MOTION.

MADAM CHAIR, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A STAB AT THIS.

I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE REVISED SITE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL 147 PARKING SPACES WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT A FOUR FOOT BERM-- FIVE FOOT BERM--.

HE SAID THAT A BERM BE--.

CITY TYPICALLY REQUIRED A MINIMUM SIX FOOT BERM.

CITY TYPICALLY REQUIRES A MINIMUM SIX FOOT BERM IN HEIGHT.

MINIMUM SIX FOOT BERM IN HEIGHT, HEDGING, AS WE DISCUSSED WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND A MODIFIED GATHERING SPACE TO BE REFLECTED ON THIS SITE PLAN.

AND ALSO ACCEPTING STAFFS CONDITIONS AS WELL.

AND ALSO ACCEPTING STAFFS CONDITIONS AS WELL.

I THINK I COVERED IT.

OK.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND? I SECOND.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN.

THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT UP.

THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT.

THE CONDITION WAS TO THE COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACE TO REMAIN.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE--.

A MODIFIED VERSION.

YES.

YEAH, IT WILL BE MODIFIED, SO IT WON'T REMAIN AS IT CURRENTLY IS TO PROVIDE IT, BUT IT WILL BE MODIFIED.

AND THEN AS FAR AS ITEM THREE, YOU WILL STILL VOTE FOR THAT.

AND IF YOU APPROVE THAT, IT MAY NOT BE NEEDED, BUT IT'S STILL MADE BASED ON THE PERCENTAGES.

NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FIRST MOTION IT WILL REMAIN AND IT WILL BE-- IT'S NOT GOING TO REMAIN AS IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.

RIGHT.

GOING TO BE MODIFIED.

IT WILL REMAIN ON SITE IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO SAY IT.

YES.

AND THE REASON FOR THE SIX FOOT BERM IS THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED BY CODE.

SO I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE DO, AND I'M WAITING FOR COLLETTE TO ADDRESS.

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OK, NIKOLE CLEARE.

YES.

CESAR SASTRE.

YES.

SALAH ELROWENY.

YES.

ERIC GNAGE.

YES.

ALBERT GUTTENTAG.

YES.

YES.

THANK YOU.

MOTION TO APPROVE TAMARAC EXCHANGE, YOU MADE YOUR REVISED SITE PLAN PETITION, PASSED WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS INDICATED BY BOARD AND ALSO ACCEPTING STAFF CONDITIONS.

MOTION WAS MOVED BY CESAR SASTRE, SECONDED BY ERIC.

AND THE NUMBER IS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE TO ZERO.

OK, SO, AGAIN, THAT WAS TO ALLOW THE ADDITIONAL ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN PARKING SPACES, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR MOTION.

YEAH, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE VARIANTS ONE, TWO AND THREE, AS STATED.

NOT AS STATED.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ATTORNEY QUINTIN, AS I'M READING THE ITEM NUMBER TWO, IT WAS REGARDING THE 147 PARKING SPACES, HOWEVER ITEM NUMBER THREE SPEAKS MORE TOWARDS THE VARIANCE FOR THE GATHERING PLACE.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD REITERATE WHAT WE JUST SAID A WHILE AGO, THAT ITEM NUMBER THREE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN THE RECORD PROPERLY.

AM I CORRECT? I THINK HIS HIS MOTION WAS FINE.

IT JUST MAY NOT BE NECESSARY AT THE END OF THE DAY FOR LEGAL PURPOSES, MAY NOT BE LEGALLY REQUIRED FOR A VARIANCE.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

THEY MAY MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM NEEDING THE VARIANCE.

BUT AT THIS POINT, UNTIL THEY'RE UNDER THE CONSTRUCTION, WE WOULDN'T KNOW.

BUT I THINK THEY WOULD NEED IT FOR PURPOSES OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

YEAH, ALL THE CONDITIONS AFFECTS THE SITE PLAN.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS REGARDING A MAJOR REVISED SITE PLAN.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE AMENDING.

WHILE IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE PARKING SPACES, THOSE CONDITIONS ALSO AFFECT THE SITE PLAN.

OK.

SO IT'S APPROPRIATELY ATTACHED TO THE RIGHT.

OK, WONDERFUL.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.

YEAH, I MADE THE MOTION.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND? NIKOLE CLEARE.

YES.

CESAR SASTRE.

YES.

SALAH ELROWENY.

YES.

ERIC GNAGE.

YES.

ALBERT GUTTENTAG.

YES.

MOTION TO APPROVE TAMARAC EXCHANGE VARIANCE PETITION PASSED FIVE TO ZERO, MOVED BY SALAH ELROWENY, SECONDED BY CESAR SASTRE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO MR. BUTTERS FOR JOINING US.

MR. ZUCKER'S AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST PERSON'S NAME.

I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.

I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

IT SEEMS AS IF YOU WILL WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, RESIDENTS, FOR JOINING US.

WE'VE HEARD YOUR CONCERNS AND I HOPE THAT WHAT WE'VE SUGGESTED EASES THE MOVING FORWARD FOR YOU.

ALL RIGHTY.

DOES THE PLANNING BOARD HAVE ANY REPORTS? ANY REPORT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD? IT APPEARS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANNING REPORTS FROM ANY REPORTS ON THE PLANNING BOARD ? MADAME CALLOWAY, DO WE HAVE ANY REPORT FROM YOU, DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NOT THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

MY PHONE DIED, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT TIME IT IS.

ELEVEN THIRTY THREE.

IT'S NINE THIRTY THREE A.M.

.

ELEVEN THIRTY THREE.

ELEVEN THIRTY THREE.

MY TIME.

ELEVEN THIRTY THREE A.M.. AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU.

BE SAFE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.